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Let’s Talk about My Looks, My Career, and My Feelings, Part CXXXVII. From the Washington Post:

She’s Asian and female. But she’s not me.

I’m often mistaken for other Asian American journalists. Sometimes it’s funny. Sometimes it’s awkward. It took me years to realize that it also stings.

By Michelle Ye Hee Lee
Reporter
May 2 at 4:57 PM

… In every news job I’ve had, I have been confused with another Asian woman reporter — a steady undercurrent in my career. I’m hardly alone in experiencing this, and it’s certainly not just Asians who are confused for each other. There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification.

… These instances are rarely intentional, and can be more embarrassing for the person who made the error than for me. Sometimes it’s genuinely funny. Other times, it’s just awkward.

It took me years to realize that it also stings.

Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine. It tells me that my place in journalism — and that of the other Asian reporter they confused me for — is dispensable, interchangeable and indistinguishable. That no matter what I do in my career, I am but an Asian who may or may not have ever worked in journalism at all.

… But what these interactions ultimately do is hurl my otherness at me, reminding me that I have no ownership over the career I have worked for since I was 15 years old. That I don’t deserve the dignity of earning credit for my accomplishments or owning up to my failures. That I must shoulder the blame of others’ mistakes or somehow share their successes, just because they are Asian and female.

When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

Clearly, the solution is to import lots more Asians.

Isn’t it always?

Seriously, I see more and more opeds by minorities arguing that it’s racist that their race isn’t the majority in this country. Keep an eye out and you’ll notice it too.

In contrast, this is pretty good:

 
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  1. Three years from this :

    to this:

  2. Except for the bit about blue eyes, I think Elvis understood, Michelle.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Wouldn't this be more appropriate?



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCUh6tf7PA
  3. Anonymous[368] • Disclaimer says:

    She looks rather distinctive to me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Trisha Taninaka ?
    , @anon
    Speaking of dispensable, interchangeable and indistinguishable...
  4. I bet nobody confuses her for Michelle Malkin.

  5. Anonymous[969] • Disclaimer says:

    She won’t be mistaken for Michelle Malkin.

    Btw, when all these journos think and sound alike, what does it matter?

  6. @PiltdownMan
    Except for the bit about blue eyes, I think Elvis understood, Michelle.

    https://youtu.be/alXrdv0lK3Y

    Wouldn’t this be more appropriate?

    • LOL: PiltdownMan
  7. She could go goth. Then she would be harder to confuse with Mary Yo Ho Lo.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Chief, are Ho Ho s an Asian treat?
  8. The solution is to stop running her columns. Serious newspapers should not be running columns that belong in a teen magazine.

    What’s next? Are the WP and NYT going to start running columns by geeky young men who are self conscious of their bad haircuts and poor fashion sense?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    The geeks would be too white.
  9. Michelle Ye Hee Lee

    She’s probably in a funk after reading this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Void

  10. It’s not surprising that women would be overly concerned with appearance and write those silly things.
    But why publish them?
    And who reads them?

    I doubt that any newspaper or magazine would publish this type of “articles” 50 years ago.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Rich snobs who want to feel more woke than their neighbors. Business is booming.
  11. When I moved into my college dorm there was another Italian-American guy who was about my height and had my hairstyle. People always confused us. I’d walk across campus and people would yell his name at me. So, I’d wave, because I didn’t want him to appear unfriendly (odd as that sounds).

    I wrote for the college paper then, but it NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT THIS WAS WORTHY OF AN ARTICLE. If it had, my editor surely would have turned me away, saying “Come back and pitch me a real idea.”

    Then and now, people. Then and now.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That sounds like the three Jewish triplets in last year's documentary. One goes to junior college and everybody calls him by a different name. It turned out his triplet had been there the year before.
    , @Truth
    It's gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.
  12. J.Ross says: • Website

    >It took me years to realize that it also stings.

    In real life injury and insult doesn’t always register immediately (getting shot, or hit by a car, may leave you feeling fine at first because of shock or endorphins) but neither will it take years. What takes years is indoctrination.

    • Agree: peterike
    • Replies: @Forbes

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.
     
    Self-deception.

    It took years before victimization appeared to be advantageous, and was all the rage of the kewl kidz. Then it took no time at all.
  13. Michelle Me Ho Mee writes:

    Me me me me me. Not Me Hee Hee, but Me Ho Mee.

    Me. Me. Me mememe. Me me. Me.

    In closing,

    Me!

  14. Her new journalistic style.

    Who? Me!
    What? Me!
    When? It’s me time!
    Where? Where it’s me!
    Why. B/c me!

  15. @Days of Broken Arrows
    When I moved into my college dorm there was another Italian-American guy who was about my height and had my hairstyle. People always confused us. I'd walk across campus and people would yell his name at me. So, I'd wave, because I didn't want him to appear unfriendly (odd as that sounds).

    I wrote for the college paper then, but it NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT THIS WAS WORTHY OF AN ARTICLE. If it had, my editor surely would have turned me away, saying "Come back and pitch me a real idea."

    Then and now, people. Then and now.

    That sounds like the three Jewish triplets in last year’s documentary. One goes to junior college and everybody calls him by a different name. It turned out his triplet had been there the year before.

    • Replies: @william munny
    Until now I never realized that when people mix me up with my older brother they are committing drive-by racism.

    Seriously, there is an issue with cross-racial identification that has real consequences in connection with misidentifying suspects in criminal cases. For obvious reasons this has an effect on blacks. But there is no way to prevent this. The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color. Whites have a much greater variety of hair styles and color and eye color. It is a standard joke for blacks who get confused for someone else say something like "yeah I know we all look alike," and there is some truth to that, at least in comparison to whites. East Asians are much more uniform hair styles and color, eye color, and even in size. Top that off with foreign names and of course people are going to get confused.
  16. Do China and Korea have whiny narcissistic women like this?

    I am assuming that they learn to be whiny narcissists in America, but I am curious as to how this works.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    It is the Negroid culture and the Negroid-coddling ideologies at work.
    , @Anon2019
    Same way African women instantly turn into angry black women as soon as they landed, like Ilhan Omar. It must be America's magic dirt.
  17. @Dumbo
    It's not surprising that women would be overly concerned with appearance and write those silly things.
    But why publish them?
    And who reads them?

    I doubt that any newspaper or magazine would publish this type of "articles" 50 years ago.

    Rich snobs who want to feel more woke than their neighbors. Business is booming.

  18. Yee Hee Lee

    Oh stop now. These surnames have to be inspired from one of the Onion parodies. How’s this surname(s) any different than:

    Michelle Tee Hee Hee

    or

    Michelle Tee Ho Ho Hee?

    or even the ever famous

    Michelle Ho Ho Ho Hee Hee Hee *

    *The clans of Ho’s and He’s decided to intersect, with multiple Ho’s and He’s the resultant offspring.

    At the very least to gain some respectable credibility, she should’ve had the decency to do the sensible abbreviation; Michelle T.H. Lee, and later on go by Michelle Lee, before transforming into Michelle Lee-Bernstein.

    Honestly now.

  19. It erases my body of work for someone else’s

    and that of the other Asian reporter they confused me for

    But what these interactions ultimately do is hurl my otherness at me

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake

    Her mistake was to have become a writer.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes

    Her mistake was to have become a writer.
     
    She's a journalist - which is like being a stenographer, but pretending to understand the subject on which they're taking dictation.

    Anyone who can arrange letters into words and sentences is, at some point, probably going to write something down - and ergo will be a writer by definition.

    That's the only sense in which the term applies to this humourless halfwit.
  20. I went to college with Michelle. I don’t recall her ever writing anything interesting in the student paper. We went to a very Jewish school, so I guess the Isarael editorials were more important.

    • Replies: @Moses
    Upenn, right?
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I went to college with Michelle.
     
    Are you sure it was her?
  21. Legit question: How does this stuff “hold her back?” Are the other asian women less able than her and her rep is brought down by being associated with them?
    Wouldnt it balance out in tje long run?
    I wish she’d write a piece about how great it was to see “Rich Crazy Asians.” Also that Chinese basketball guy ,Lin? Fascinating stuff.

  22. Lot says:

    Steve, sorry to bring up old wounds from being confused with other white guy writers with similar names. I don’t want you to feel erased. But it is too on topic to stay silent:

    “Real People with Similar Names: There are at least two other writers with almost identical names who probably wouldn’t appreciate being confused with me:

    1. Recently, I saw the book, “Murder on the Appian Way,” by Steven Saylor. It gave me quite a shock until I remembered that I spelled my name differently! I have since seen a Washington Post review that said it’s the latest in a quite good series of detective mysteries set in ancient Rome, so I can’t complain, though I’m not sure Steven Saylor would say the same regarding my existence.

    2. Dr. Stephen Seiler (Ph.D in Sports Physiology). An American now living in Norway, Dr. Seiler coauthored with me the article above on the widening gender gap in running. Our collaboration has been wholly through the Internet: we’ve never met. I think it’s safe to say that I am the evil twin.”

    • Replies: @Lot
    David Friedman also suffers:

    “This is the home page of David Friedman. Not the Hawaiian artist David Friedman, or the composer David Friedman, or the fix-what's-wrong-with- government David Friedman (050) or the fifteen year old David Friedman or the eighteen year old David Friedman or the legendary film pornographer David Friedman or even the economic journalist David Friedman but the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman.”
  23. Lot says:
    @Lot
    Steve, sorry to bring up old wounds from being confused with other white guy writers with similar names. I don’t want you to feel erased. But it is too on topic to stay silent:

    “Real People with Similar Names: There are at least two other writers with almost identical names who probably wouldn't appreciate being confused with me:

    1. Recently, I saw the book, "Murder on the Appian Way," by Steven Saylor. It gave me quite a shock until I remembered that I spelled my name differently! I have since seen a Washington Post review that said it's the latest in a quite good series of detective mysteries set in ancient Rome, so I can't complain, though I'm not sure Steven Saylor would say the same regarding my existence.

    2. Dr. Stephen Seiler (Ph.D in Sports Physiology). An American now living in Norway, Dr. Seiler coauthored with me the article above on the widening gender gap in running. Our collaboration has been wholly through the Internet: we've never met. I think it's safe to say that I am the evil twin.”

    David Friedman also suffers:

    “This is the home page of David Friedman. Not the Hawaiian artist David Friedman, or the composer David Friedman, or the fix-what’s-wrong-with- government David Friedman (050) or the fifteen year old David Friedman or the eighteen year old David Friedman or the legendary film pornographer David Friedman or even the economic journalist David Friedman but the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman.”

    • Replies: @penskefile
    He could straighten that all out pretty quickly with a David "son of Milton" Friedman
    , @International Jew
    If David Friedman was sensitive about getting confused with other people named Friedman, he shouldn't have become an economist. He'd have been more unique in the NBA.
  24. @black sea

    It erases my body of work for someone else’s

    and that of the other Asian reporter they confused me for

    But what these interactions ultimately do is hurl my otherness at me

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake
     
    Her mistake was to have become a writer.

    Her mistake was to have become a writer.

    She’s a journalist – which is like being a stenographer, but pretending to understand the subject on which they’re taking dictation.

    Anyone who can arrange letters into words and sentences is, at some point, probably going to write something down – and ergo will be a writer by definition.

    That’s the only sense in which the term applies to this humourless halfwit.

    • LOL: Kylie
  25. As a straight white man of height who has worked in an overwhelmingly Chinese environment for almost 30 years, I share with Ms Lee a mélange of intersectionally-complicated feelings of rage, shame, crankiness, and intermittent gassy bloviation. For I too have been made the victim, over and over and over yet again, of racist misappropriation, by racist racists, of my very own person.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

    Me too. How many times did I talk myself into thinking that living in Hong Kong was a great gig, with good pay in a fun city full of interesting things to see and do, and fantastic food, where I met lots of great-looking women, one of whom became my wife. I was deluded all along! The stings were accumulating day by day! Hour by hour!! Minute by minute!!!

    Why, at one point, there were three hu-white men working in my office. I was regularly mistaken for both of the others, both of whom were a head shorter than me, and completely bald. I would run my hands through my almost-intact head of gorgeous mousy hair, and think it hilarious. HOW COULD I HAVE FOOLED MYSELF LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG!?!?!?

    Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.

    Oh, preach it, Sister!

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

    Testify! Testify!!

    All I can say now — as the husk of a man now broken on the great Rack-O-Racism — is that I’ve been held back bigtime.

    Reparations NOW!

    • LOL: Moses
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Hopefully you keep a picture of your wife on you in case you can’t find her in a crowded store so you can show it to the other Asians so they can find her for you. And hopefully they will find the right one and you don’t go home with the wrong Asian woman.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    This seems poor Calvinism to me.
    , @Forbes
    Last Real Calvin...Don't hold back. Tell us, brother, how you really feel. I sense there's more to your feelings than you're letting on. Perhaps some mirth, or nuance, or pedantic outrage...
    , @J.Ross
    There's a Western Japan hand (not Seward, not Kerr, I think it was the one with a Hungarian name) who describes being shown Cyrillic writing and expected to translate it because, after all, both he and the message were equally "foreign."
  26. the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman

    If you’re going to have a David Friedman, that’s the best kind of David Friedman to go for.

    The Machinery of Freedom should be required reading – as should all his Economics-Law stuff.

    DDF seems never to trade on his famous Dad (and Mum), which gets him a big thumbs up from me. The world is full of self-promoting no-taltent-with-famous-ancestor types (Toynbee, Freud, etc), but DDF made his bones without Milton or Mummy.

    It’s heretical among rationalist economists (and I am absolutely one of those), but Milton Friedman is not even in my top 20 economists – mostly because his empirical work was shoddy.

    However I’m an admitted, unashamed fanboi of Friedman fils; in a truly meritocratic world, he and Murray Rothbard would occupy the place in the pantheon that Keynes and Friedman père do now.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    The Machinery of Freedom is great stuff, and that David Friedman is a talented public speaker.

    As I grew older I learned that the reason we don't have free markets is that homo sapiens and all of its large organizations are ruled by high performing/high IQ sociopaths who use their skills to manipulate and control markets, and use language to change the subject and dupe the uninformed.

    A free market is like a perfect New England Spring day or a perfect ten year old Cuban cigar.

    They exist for brief moments only to taunt us with what could have been and could be someday.
  27. Moses says:

    Living in Asia as a White man I realized that races really do have a problem distinguishing individuals of other races.

    Over the years I’ve gotten much better at distinguishing Asian faces. But I can’t count the number of times someone has said to me confidently “Hi, we met before at X place and time” when I have never been to X place.

    Seriously, all White men look the same to Asian Asians.

    I get a lot of mileage out of the joke “No, that was some other White man. We all look the same you know.”

    Half the time the other party nods with relief and says, “Yes, you do.”

    I thought it was funny before, but Ms. Lee helped me see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst.

    Maybe I should write an Op-ed about it. I feel so oppressed!

    [This crap is just anti-White hate and meant to gain power and cow Whites. That’s all it is.]

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    All white people look alike to blacks. True story. I have coffee at my local McDonalds with a regular group of oldsters. I usually sit at the same table with my neighbor lady Betty. We both have snow white hair.

    There is a friendly black woman who works the counter named Sofie. I wasn't there one day. The next day Betty told me that Sofie asked her if her brother was sick. It took Betty a moment to realize that Sofie was talking about me! We both had a good laugh when we realized that we wypepo all look alike.
  28. @aristippus
    I went to college with Michelle. I don't recall her ever writing anything interesting in the student paper. We went to a very Jewish school, so I guess the Isarael editorials were more important.

    Upenn, right?

  29. @Anon
    The solution is to stop running her columns. Serious newspapers should not be running columns that belong in a teen magazine.

    What's next? Are the WP and NYT going to start running columns by geeky young men who are self conscious of their bad haircuts and poor fashion sense?

    The geeks would be too white.

  30. Me So Michelle is in the US because she’d be greeting guests at the bottom of an escalator in Korea if she’d stayed there.

    I’m puzzled by the observable differences between women working in China, Korea etc. and their sisters who flee to the US. Does a certain type of woman prone to whining and low-IQ outbursts migrate, or does exposure to a US culture of complaint dumb them down?

  31. So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart? The are not many blond or redheaded or light-brown haired or blue-eyed or green-eyed Asians walking around. Perhaps Michelle Ye Hee Lee could where a nametag.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart?

    Solution A: Import tens of million more people who look just like the author so everybody will have to get used to distinguishing them.

    Solution B: Put the author on TV all the time so she becomes famous.

    , @Henry's Cat

    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart?
     
    Charlie Chan had the right idea - #1 son, #2 son....
    , @Sam Coulton
    There aren't many such white people, either. Blond, red and light brown haired people are 10%, 2% and 15% of the US white population, respectively. Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom. Green eyes less than 5% in any country.
  32. Posted this before, but seems even more relevant here.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Kent Nationalist
    How come the NYT hasn't produced a comment piece on this urgent national issue yet?
    , @JimB
    I couldn’t get past 3 minutes. It needs the boring bits edited out. But frankly, if this wasn’t an eight minute art project, I’m sure the narrator could have produced a 2 hr full length animated feature since it seems clear the entire Western world can be mapped onto her neurosis.
  33. I’m a professional artist with both a national and international audience. What I do as an artist is both highly intentional and individualistic and recognized as such, and also readily distinguishable, stylistically speaking, from the work of my peers. Thus I have, more or less by definition, a defined and recognizable “body of work.”

    Back before I broke through professionally, I worked as a legal secretary and a medical transcriber. In those fields, I simply typed up what lawyers and doctors said, as clearly and intelligibly as possible. I exercised a certain degree of editorial discretion, but I did not have a “body of work” in those capacities. It would be silly to presume so.

    Journalists, again by definition, do not have a “body of work”. What they have is called a portfolio, or an album of clippings, which simply illustrates their alleged professional competence. Or maybe we could just say a CV.

    If they do have an imaginary body of work — or worse, if they just think they do– then they are engaged in something other than “journalism,” and should admit as much.

  34. @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVAtb2DEAw

    Posted this before, but seems even more relevant here.

    Thanks.

  35. @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVAtb2DEAw

    Posted this before, but seems even more relevant here.

    How come the NYT hasn’t produced a comment piece on this urgent national issue yet?

  36. @Paul
    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart? The are not many blond or redheaded or light-brown haired or blue-eyed or green-eyed Asians walking around. Perhaps Michelle Ye Hee Lee could where a nametag.

    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart?

    Solution A: Import tens of million more people who look just like the author so everybody will have to get used to distinguishing them.

    Solution B: Put the author on TV all the time so she becomes famous.

  37. Bitches be crazy.

    It’s saying none of those things. You are really crazy and really bad at interpreting events if you think it does.

    Steve: why of why do you keep posting this nonsense. Nuiciance is not worth repeating….

  38. @Steve Sailer
    That sounds like the three Jewish triplets in last year's documentary. One goes to junior college and everybody calls him by a different name. It turned out his triplet had been there the year before.

    Until now I never realized that when people mix me up with my older brother they are committing drive-by racism.

    Seriously, there is an issue with cross-racial identification that has real consequences in connection with misidentifying suspects in criminal cases. For obvious reasons this has an effect on blacks. But there is no way to prevent this. The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color. Whites have a much greater variety of hair styles and color and eye color. It is a standard joke for blacks who get confused for someone else say something like “yeah I know we all look alike,” and there is some truth to that, at least in comparison to whites. East Asians are much more uniform hair styles and color, eye color, and even in size. Top that off with foreign names and of course people are going to get confused.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    If the word "diversity" weren't already so overused and abused, I would say that Euros do indeed exhibit greater phenotype diversity, so there is objectively less reason confuse them than to confuse Africans or Asians. Ms. Ye Hee Lee even comes close to admitting as much:

    "There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification."
     
    But there's more as regards East Asians in general and Chinese in particular. The Han are the world's biggest ethnic group. Objective genetic analysis shows that even putting aside the very large numbers, they are very tightly clustered genotypically. Add back in the large numbers to a tightly clustered population and whaddya expect?
    , @Bill Jones
    " The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color."

    I'd have gone for sex myself, but these days who knows?
  39. @william munny
    Until now I never realized that when people mix me up with my older brother they are committing drive-by racism.

    Seriously, there is an issue with cross-racial identification that has real consequences in connection with misidentifying suspects in criminal cases. For obvious reasons this has an effect on blacks. But there is no way to prevent this. The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color. Whites have a much greater variety of hair styles and color and eye color. It is a standard joke for blacks who get confused for someone else say something like "yeah I know we all look alike," and there is some truth to that, at least in comparison to whites. East Asians are much more uniform hair styles and color, eye color, and even in size. Top that off with foreign names and of course people are going to get confused.

    If the word “diversity” weren’t already so overused and abused, I would say that Euros do indeed exhibit greater phenotype diversity, so there is objectively less reason confuse them than to confuse Africans or Asians. Ms. Ye Hee Lee even comes close to admitting as much:

    “There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification.”

    But there’s more as regards East Asians in general and Chinese in particular. The Han are the world’s biggest ethnic group. Objective genetic analysis shows that even putting aside the very large numbers, they are very tightly clustered genotypically. Add back in the large numbers to a tightly clustered population and whaddya expect?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    On one hand, humans have an amazing ability to recognize even slight differences in the human face. Some of it is training, so people are more likely to be able to distinguish that with which they are familiar.

    At the first glance, especially from a distance or if the view is obscured, what I personally notice is the hair and general body build. At a distance it is hard to tell the difference between two skinny Asian ladies with long black hair. Similarly, it can be hard to tell the difference at a distance between two Scandinavian-American women of similar builds with long blond hair. As for the training, someone in Hong Kong will pick up on distinguishing the Asian ladies faster, while someone in the Upper Peninsula will pick up on distinguishing the blonds faster.

    And you’d better pick up on the differences if you want to pick up the ladies.
    , @Anonymous
    Virtually indistinguishable from Japanese and Koreans genetically.

    You sum up these groups you have about 1/3 of all humanity.

    Then Indian Pakistan Bangladesh block another third, and soon black Africans the remaining.

    Whites and mestizo populations of the Americas being small peripheral minorities.
  40. Tatoos might solve the problem of identification:

  41. @Kratoklastes

    the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman
     
    If you're going to have a David Friedman, that's the best kind of David Friedman to go for.

    The Machinery of Freedom should be required reading - as should all his Economics-Law stuff.

    DDF seems never to trade on his famous Dad (and Mum), which gets him a big thumbs up from me. The world is full of self-promoting no-taltent-with-famous-ancestor types (Toynbee, Freud, etc), but DDF made his bones without Milton or Mummy.

    It's heretical among rationalist economists (and I am absolutely one of those), but Milton Friedman is not even in my top 20 economists - mostly because his empirical work was shoddy.

    However I'm an admitted, unashamed fanboi of Friedman fils; in a truly meritocratic world, he and Murray Rothbard would occupy the place in the pantheon that Keynes and Friedman père do now.

    The Machinery of Freedom is great stuff, and that David Friedman is a talented public speaker.

    As I grew older I learned that the reason we don’t have free markets is that homo sapiens and all of its large organizations are ruled by high performing/high IQ sociopaths who use their skills to manipulate and control markets, and use language to change the subject and dupe the uninformed.

    A free market is like a perfect New England Spring day or a perfect ten year old Cuban cigar.

    They exist for brief moments only to taunt us with what could have been and could be someday.

  42. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    As a straight white man of height who has worked in an overwhelmingly Chinese environment for almost 30 years, I share with Ms Lee a mélange of intersectionally-complicated feelings of rage, shame, crankiness, and intermittent gassy bloviation. For I too have been made the victim, over and over and over yet again, of racist misappropriation, by racist racists, of my very own person.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

     

    Me too. How many times did I talk myself into thinking that living in Hong Kong was a great gig, with good pay in a fun city full of interesting things to see and do, and fantastic food, where I met lots of great-looking women, one of whom became my wife. I was deluded all along! The stings were accumulating day by day! Hour by hour!! Minute by minute!!!

    Why, at one point, there were three hu-white men working in my office. I was regularly mistaken for both of the others, both of whom were a head shorter than me, and completely bald. I would run my hands through my almost-intact head of gorgeous mousy hair, and think it hilarious. HOW COULD I HAVE FOOLED MYSELF LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG!?!?!?


    Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.

     

    Oh, preach it, Sister!

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

     

    Testify! Testify!!

    All I can say now -- as the husk of a man now broken on the great Rack-O-Racism -- is that I've been held back bigtime.

    Reparations NOW!

    Hopefully you keep a picture of your wife on you in case you can’t find her in a crowded store so you can show it to the other Asians so they can find her for you. And hopefully they will find the right one and you don’t go home with the wrong Asian woman.

  43. How come Chubby Cheeks shows the eyes as vertical, rather than horizontal slits for the eyes of the Slopes?

  44. I knew she wasn’t this Asian woman:

  45. Back in the old days, there were two well-known female Chinese American TV reporters in NYC, Connie Chung and Kaity Tong, and they both looked alike. I’ve lived in Asia, and learned very quickly to tell Asian women apart. Those two looked alike.

    It was such a running joke that when Kaity Tong had a baby, as a joke the people on the Maury Povich show threw a party for his wife, Connie Chung.

  46. There was a site that used to (maybe still does) run columns about actors who are so similar that it is easy to misremember which one was in which movie. The idea seemed to be that the world would be unchanged if only one of the two (or three) existed. Of course, that is mostly true of all of us, very replaceable.

    • Agree: Endgame Napoleon
  47. @Almost Missouri
    If the word "diversity" weren't already so overused and abused, I would say that Euros do indeed exhibit greater phenotype diversity, so there is objectively less reason confuse them than to confuse Africans or Asians. Ms. Ye Hee Lee even comes close to admitting as much:

    "There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification."
     
    But there's more as regards East Asians in general and Chinese in particular. The Han are the world's biggest ethnic group. Objective genetic analysis shows that even putting aside the very large numbers, they are very tightly clustered genotypically. Add back in the large numbers to a tightly clustered population and whaddya expect?

    On one hand, humans have an amazing ability to recognize even slight differences in the human face. Some of it is training, so people are more likely to be able to distinguish that with which they are familiar.

    At the first glance, especially from a distance or if the view is obscured, what I personally notice is the hair and general body build. At a distance it is hard to tell the difference between two skinny Asian ladies with long black hair. Similarly, it can be hard to tell the difference at a distance between two Scandinavian-American women of similar builds with long blond hair. As for the training, someone in Hong Kong will pick up on distinguishing the Asian ladies faster, while someone in the Upper Peninsula will pick up on distinguishing the blonds faster.

    And you’d better pick up on the differences if you want to pick up the ladies.

    • Replies: @Marty
    Around 1990 I walked past a homeless black guy pushing a shopping cart in the SF Tenderloin when I heard him say to his friend, "Damn, that guy look jes like Elliot Gould." It made me feel so unfunny.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Oh, man, youtube let me down on this one!

    If you are a The Office fan you'd know this, and it would be perfect for the post here, Steve. Michael Scott, feeling lonely at Christmas, brings 2 Oriental girls from Benihana back to the office for the Christmas party. He may or may not have had anything to drink, but he confuses which one of the 2 girls is his new girlfriend.

    He has to check which is which by looking for the magic marker line he surreptitiously made on one of the girls' wrist!

    Hilarious!
  48. Speaking of troublesome Asians, Indian monster and billionaire John Kapoor found guilty of bribing doctors to prescribe a highly addictive fentanyl spray. My, my, my, another Asian invader figuring out super-profitable ways to exploit and destroy whites. Asian immigrants are our strength!

    https://www.latimes.com/la-na-executive-guilty-opioid-20190503-story.html

  49. the other Asian reporter they confused me for

    To avoid more unpleasant incidents like this, she might consider some facial piercings, a neck tattoo, and dying her hair purple.

  50. @The Last Real Calvinist
    As a straight white man of height who has worked in an overwhelmingly Chinese environment for almost 30 years, I share with Ms Lee a mélange of intersectionally-complicated feelings of rage, shame, crankiness, and intermittent gassy bloviation. For I too have been made the victim, over and over and over yet again, of racist misappropriation, by racist racists, of my very own person.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

     

    Me too. How many times did I talk myself into thinking that living in Hong Kong was a great gig, with good pay in a fun city full of interesting things to see and do, and fantastic food, where I met lots of great-looking women, one of whom became my wife. I was deluded all along! The stings were accumulating day by day! Hour by hour!! Minute by minute!!!

    Why, at one point, there were three hu-white men working in my office. I was regularly mistaken for both of the others, both of whom were a head shorter than me, and completely bald. I would run my hands through my almost-intact head of gorgeous mousy hair, and think it hilarious. HOW COULD I HAVE FOOLED MYSELF LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG!?!?!?


    Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.

     

    Oh, preach it, Sister!

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

     

    Testify! Testify!!

    All I can say now -- as the husk of a man now broken on the great Rack-O-Racism -- is that I've been held back bigtime.

    Reparations NOW!

    This seems poor Calvinism to me.

  51. Steve,
    I don’t know what your problem is. You have some issue with this journalist, obviously, since you keep posting about her articles. How many times now? 6? 7? Give it a rest. She’s not going to change.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    The jokes on you Chris, all of these articles are by different Asian female journalists. What a drive-by racist you are.
  52. JimB says:

    “It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.”

    So not only do Asian women all look alike, they have similar voices, and basically say the same thing over and over. It’s like some Monty Python cartoon depicting the entire globe inundated by a swarm of squeaky sounding Chinese people.

  53. Some fifty years ago I was dating a japanese woman. One day she walked right past me on the street without apparently recognizing me. I called after her and she turned around. I asked if she hadn’t recognized me and she said “sorry – all you caucasians look alike to me”. I was crushed at this vicious denigration and obliteration of my whole person, this utter devaluation of me and everything I stood for (at the time). I’ve cried myself to sleep every night since then (August 1967) trying to deal with this incredibly huge microaggression. Pity me. Pity me please! I am so broken still.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Pity me. Pity me please! I am so broken still.
     
    Uhhh, yeah, whatever, is she still available?
    , @Kyle
    How many other white sailors was she banging?
  54. I can sympathize with her because I am also one of those people who think it’s a very bad thing that “it’s racist that their race isn’t the majority in this country”.
    Maybe people confuse her with someone else because most Koreans have one of only about four different last names? There are about 15 million Koreans named Lee, but she’s outraged that people mistake her for Michelle Lee, one of the Busan Lees, when in reality she is Michelle Lee, one of the Pusan Lees.
    Again a demonstration of the remarkable skill with which Asian immigrants have assimilated to our culture, and learn precisely what to say, and which race you are encouraged to stone in order to succeed.
    I imagine if Asians had emigrated in large numbers to the old Jim Crow South they would have been attempting to join the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Klan in order to promote themselves.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani

    Again a demonstration of the remarkable skill with which Asian immigrants have assimilated to our culture, and learn precisely what to say, and which race you are encouraged to stone in order to succeed.
    I imagine if Asians had emigrated in large numbers to the old Jim Crow South they would have been attempting to join the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Klan in order to promote themselves.
     
    Of course. However they are betting on the losing side while I'm betting on the winning one. WN will win in the New World. Not sure about the Old World because there is Islam.
  55. @william munny
    Until now I never realized that when people mix me up with my older brother they are committing drive-by racism.

    Seriously, there is an issue with cross-racial identification that has real consequences in connection with misidentifying suspects in criminal cases. For obvious reasons this has an effect on blacks. But there is no way to prevent this. The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color. Whites have a much greater variety of hair styles and color and eye color. It is a standard joke for blacks who get confused for someone else say something like "yeah I know we all look alike," and there is some truth to that, at least in comparison to whites. East Asians are much more uniform hair styles and color, eye color, and even in size. Top that off with foreign names and of course people are going to get confused.

    ” The most striking differences between people are in size, hair style and color, and, if close enough, eye color.”

    I’d have gone for sex myself, but these days who knows?

  56. @Days of Broken Arrows
    When I moved into my college dorm there was another Italian-American guy who was about my height and had my hairstyle. People always confused us. I'd walk across campus and people would yell his name at me. So, I'd wave, because I didn't want him to appear unfriendly (odd as that sounds).

    I wrote for the college paper then, but it NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT THIS WAS WORTHY OF AN ARTICLE. If it had, my editor surely would have turned me away, saying "Come back and pitch me a real idea."

    Then and now, people. Then and now.

    It’s gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    Your name is not sport. It is deport. To Nigeria.
    , @fish

    It’s gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.
     
    Stephen A. Smith too, Champ.
  57. @Paleo Liberal
    On one hand, humans have an amazing ability to recognize even slight differences in the human face. Some of it is training, so people are more likely to be able to distinguish that with which they are familiar.

    At the first glance, especially from a distance or if the view is obscured, what I personally notice is the hair and general body build. At a distance it is hard to tell the difference between two skinny Asian ladies with long black hair. Similarly, it can be hard to tell the difference at a distance between two Scandinavian-American women of similar builds with long blond hair. As for the training, someone in Hong Kong will pick up on distinguishing the Asian ladies faster, while someone in the Upper Peninsula will pick up on distinguishing the blonds faster.

    And you’d better pick up on the differences if you want to pick up the ladies.

    Around 1990 I walked past a homeless black guy pushing a shopping cart in the SF Tenderloin when I heard him say to his friend, “Damn, that guy look jes like Elliot Gould.” It made me feel so unfunny.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That's ok with me.

    https://vimeo.com/23742850
  58. @Lot
    David Friedman also suffers:

    “This is the home page of David Friedman. Not the Hawaiian artist David Friedman, or the composer David Friedman, or the fix-what's-wrong-with- government David Friedman (050) or the fifteen year old David Friedman or the eighteen year old David Friedman or the legendary film pornographer David Friedman or even the economic journalist David Friedman but the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman.”

    He could straighten that all out pretty quickly with a David “son of Milton” Friedman

  59. @Lot
    David Friedman also suffers:

    “This is the home page of David Friedman. Not the Hawaiian artist David Friedman, or the composer David Friedman, or the fix-what's-wrong-with- government David Friedman (050) or the fifteen year old David Friedman or the eighteen year old David Friedman or the legendary film pornographer David Friedman or even the economic journalist David Friedman but the anarchist-anachronist-economist David Friedman.”

    If David Friedman was sensitive about getting confused with other people named Friedman, he shouldn’t have become an economist. He’d have been more unique in the NBA.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Unfortunately for his NBA prospects, David Friedman looks too much like a David Friedman.

    https://www.theadvocates.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/David-Friedman-2.jpg

    I was hoping to find him dressed up in one of his Ren Faire costumes, but alas I can find none.
  60. @Moses
    Living in Asia as a White man I realized that races really do have a problem distinguishing individuals of other races.

    Over the years I've gotten much better at distinguishing Asian faces. But I can't count the number of times someone has said to me confidently "Hi, we met before at X place and time" when I have never been to X place.

    Seriously, all White men look the same to Asian Asians.

    I get a lot of mileage out of the joke "No, that was some other White man. We all look the same you know."

    Half the time the other party nods with relief and says, "Yes, you do."

    I thought it was funny before, but Ms. Lee helped me see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst.

    Maybe I should write an Op-ed about it. I feel so oppressed!

    [This crap is just anti-White hate and meant to gain power and cow Whites. That's all it is.]

    All white people look alike to blacks. True story. I have coffee at my local McDonalds with a regular group of oldsters. I usually sit at the same table with my neighbor lady Betty. We both have snow white hair.

    There is a friendly black woman who works the counter named Sofie. I wasn’t there one day. The next day Betty told me that Sofie asked her if her brother was sick. It took Betty a moment to realize that Sofie was talking about me! We both had a good laugh when we realized that we wypepo all look alike.

  61. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    She looks rather distinctive to me.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2-lSroE5MdE/VgoNYacAq9I/AAAAAAAAzgA/8czrhxYrzZY/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-09-28%2Bat%2B9.01.49%2BPM.png

    Trisha Taninaka ?

  62. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    If the word "diversity" weren't already so overused and abused, I would say that Euros do indeed exhibit greater phenotype diversity, so there is objectively less reason confuse them than to confuse Africans or Asians. Ms. Ye Hee Lee even comes close to admitting as much:

    "There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification."
     
    But there's more as regards East Asians in general and Chinese in particular. The Han are the world's biggest ethnic group. Objective genetic analysis shows that even putting aside the very large numbers, they are very tightly clustered genotypically. Add back in the large numbers to a tightly clustered population and whaddya expect?

    Virtually indistinguishable from Japanese and Koreans genetically.

    You sum up these groups you have about 1/3 of all humanity.

    Then Indian Pakistan Bangladesh block another third, and soon black Africans the remaining.

    Whites and mestizo populations of the Americas being small peripheral minorities.

  63. JimB says:
    @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVAtb2DEAw

    Posted this before, but seems even more relevant here.

    I couldn’t get past 3 minutes. It needs the boring bits edited out. But frankly, if this wasn’t an eight minute art project, I’m sure the narrator could have produced a 2 hr full length animated feature since it seems clear the entire Western world can be mapped onto her neurosis.

  64. @International Jew
    If David Friedman was sensitive about getting confused with other people named Friedman, he shouldn't have become an economist. He'd have been more unique in the NBA.

    Unfortunately for his NBA prospects, David Friedman looks too much like a David Friedman.

    I was hoping to find him dressed up in one of his Ren Faire costumes, but alas I can find none.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Give him a break, he's well taller than his dad.
  65. @Roger
    Do China and Korea have whiny narcissistic women like this?

    I am assuming that they learn to be whiny narcissists in America, but I am curious as to how this works.

    It is the Negroid culture and the Negroid-coddling ideologies at work.

  66. @Alfa158
    I can sympathize with her because I am also one of those people who think it’s a very bad thing that “it’s racist that their race isn’t the majority in this country”.
    Maybe people confuse her with someone else because most Koreans have one of only about four different last names? There are about 15 million Koreans named Lee, but she’s outraged that people mistake her for Michelle Lee, one of the Busan Lees, when in reality she is Michelle Lee, one of the Pusan Lees.
    Again a demonstration of the remarkable skill with which Asian immigrants have assimilated to our culture, and learn precisely what to say, and which race you are encouraged to stone in order to succeed.
    I imagine if Asians had emigrated in large numbers to the old Jim Crow South they would have been attempting to join the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Klan in order to promote themselves.

    Again a demonstration of the remarkable skill with which Asian immigrants have assimilated to our culture, and learn precisely what to say, and which race you are encouraged to stone in order to succeed.
    I imagine if Asians had emigrated in large numbers to the old Jim Crow South they would have been attempting to join the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Klan in order to promote themselves.

    Of course. However they are betting on the losing side while I’m betting on the winning one. WN will win in the New World. Not sure about the Old World because there is Islam.

  67. @Paul
    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart? The are not many blond or redheaded or light-brown haired or blue-eyed or green-eyed Asians walking around. Perhaps Michelle Ye Hee Lee could where a nametag.

    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart?

    Charlie Chan had the right idea – #1 son, #2 son….

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    As a kid I thought my name was Butchterryrandyb... from my dad. Me and my Bros. tried to get him to use the number system but he wouldn't cooperate.
  68. My Achilles heel is remembering people’s names. I remember faces quite well, but putting a name to the face can be frustrating and embarrassing.

  69. @Chief Seattle
    She could go goth. Then she would be harder to confuse with Mary Yo Ho Lo.

    Chief, are Ho Ho s an Asian treat?

  70. @J.Ross
    >It took me years to realize that it also stings.

    In real life injury and insult doesn't always register immediately (getting shot, or hit by a car, may leave you feeling fine at first because of shock or endorphins) but neither will it take years. What takes years is indoctrination.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

    Self-deception.

    It took years before victimization appeared to be advantageous, and was all the rage of the kewl kidz. Then it took no time at all.

  71. Sean says:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6308207/

    A study by Foo et al. (2017) showed that facial adiposity was a better predictor of attractiveness compared to sexual dimorphism, averageness, and symmetry, for male faces. The researchers also found that, for females faces, facial adiposity squared and sexual dimorphism were the best predictors of female facial attractiveness, while facial adiposity was also the strongest predictor of perceived health for male faces, while sexual dimorphism was the strongest predictor of perceived health for female faces, with facial adiposity failing to reach statistical significance.

    As mentioned previously, for a specific facial cue to serve as a valid cue to health, people need to reliably detect the cue and agree on its relationship to health or attractiveness. Some studies have reported that participants are able to reliably estimate a person’s body fat percentage or body mass index (BMI) from facial cues alone. […] Additionally, a study conducted by Tinlin et al. (2013) using female participants, also found that rated facial adiposity was negatively correlated with a psychological condition factor (r = 0.29). These findings suggest that facial adiposity may also serve as a valid cue to mental health in females, although more research is required to draw any conclusions about the link between mental health and facial adiposity in males.

    Cheeky video is worth a like and would it kill you to subscribe to her channel?

  72. @The Last Real Calvinist
    As a straight white man of height who has worked in an overwhelmingly Chinese environment for almost 30 years, I share with Ms Lee a mélange of intersectionally-complicated feelings of rage, shame, crankiness, and intermittent gassy bloviation. For I too have been made the victim, over and over and over yet again, of racist misappropriation, by racist racists, of my very own person.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

     

    Me too. How many times did I talk myself into thinking that living in Hong Kong was a great gig, with good pay in a fun city full of interesting things to see and do, and fantastic food, where I met lots of great-looking women, one of whom became my wife. I was deluded all along! The stings were accumulating day by day! Hour by hour!! Minute by minute!!!

    Why, at one point, there were three hu-white men working in my office. I was regularly mistaken for both of the others, both of whom were a head shorter than me, and completely bald. I would run my hands through my almost-intact head of gorgeous mousy hair, and think it hilarious. HOW COULD I HAVE FOOLED MYSELF LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG!?!?!?


    Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.

     

    Oh, preach it, Sister!

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

     

    Testify! Testify!!

    All I can say now -- as the husk of a man now broken on the great Rack-O-Racism -- is that I've been held back bigtime.

    Reparations NOW!

    Last Real Calvin…Don’t hold back. Tell us, brother, how you really feel. I sense there’s more to your feelings than you’re letting on. Perhaps some mirth, or nuance, or pedantic outrage…

  73. So you’re ridiculing her attention-seeking screed by giving her attention — got it.

  74. serious observation:

    asian women are much funnier than asian men.

    the trend is obvious.

    so what’s going on here. what leads to this inversion of the general rule of thumb of man woman humor relations.

    is it possible…the women had to be more funny to initiate the dating sequence? is the famous reservation of asian guys so significant that they are THAT reluctant to make the first move, expanded over an entire population?

    is it possible selection for humor is flexible and it can appear in women too?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The man has more to lose because gender roles and workplace expectations have remained in place. Women are always closer to humor in every society. Their time is taken up by chatting with friends more than anything else (poor working housewives are chatting as they work). Men have to worry about displeasing a client or boss. Also, even in a conventional workpkace, rules never apply to women.
  75. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    iPhone X apparently thinks Chinese people look the same: Chinese users claim iPhone X face recognition can’t tell them apart.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5182512/chinese-users-claim-iphonex-face-recognition-cant-tell-them-apart/

  76. @aristippus
    I went to college with Michelle. I don't recall her ever writing anything interesting in the student paper. We went to a very Jewish school, so I guess the Isarael editorials were more important.

    I went to college with Michelle.

    Are you sure it was her?

  77. imagine being a police sketch artist in china.

    do chinese driver’s licenses bother with eyes: brown, hair: black?

    on a more serious note, don’t we know from computer science and object recognition AI that east asians actually do look more alike than other humans, and are harder to distinguish for a machine with zero bias?

    or is that the ‘racist’ AI which needs to be detrained again.

  78. @Paul
    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart? The are not many blond or redheaded or light-brown haired or blue-eyed or green-eyed Asians walking around. Perhaps Michelle Ye Hee Lee could where a nametag.

    There aren’t many such white people, either. Blond, red and light brown haired people are 10%, 2% and 15% of the US white population, respectively. Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom. Green eyes less than 5% in any country.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom.”

    Both those figures seem low to me.

    The line between green and blue as well as green and hazel is fuzzy so we can’t be too precise.
  79. @Henry's Cat

    So how are people supposed to tell all of them apart?
     
    Charlie Chan had the right idea - #1 son, #2 son....

    As a kid I thought my name was Butchterryrandyb… from my dad. Me and my Bros. tried to get him to use the number system but he wouldn’t cooperate.

  80. @Sam Coulton
    There aren't many such white people, either. Blond, red and light brown haired people are 10%, 2% and 15% of the US white population, respectively. Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom. Green eyes less than 5% in any country.

    “Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom.”

    Both those figures seem low to me.

    The line between green and blue as well as green and hazel is fuzzy so we can’t be too precise.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    One of the most striking things about re-watching the first season of Twin Peaks is that nearly everybody has natural blue eyes.
  81. @Chrisnonymous
    Steve,
    I don't know what your problem is. You have some issue with this journalist, obviously, since you keep posting about her articles. How many times now? 6? 7? Give it a rest. She's not going to change.

    The jokes on you Chris, all of these articles are by different Asian female journalists. What a drive-by racist you are.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    I was told they’d be model minority natural conservatives.
  82. @Lot
    Unfortunately for his NBA prospects, David Friedman looks too much like a David Friedman.

    https://www.theadvocates.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/David-Friedman-2.jpg

    I was hoping to find him dressed up in one of his Ren Faire costumes, but alas I can find none.

    Give him a break, he’s well taller than his dad.

  83. Other than snagging one of the few paying gigs in journalism, unintentional visual faux pas by whites didn’t have consequences for her. In an era with declining jobs in her field and more graduate degree holders in English and journalism chasing a narrowing range of journalism jobs, shouldn’t she be grateful for her rarified job, rather than lashing out at honest mistakes by whites? If you have ever worked in a visual field, you know from experience that many people are not visually observant. Even people with more visual acuity have a built-in tendency to group shapes and colors into non-accurate visual symbols, simplifying the visual information in non-visual ways instead of accurately distinguishing the shapes and tones. It is the first hurdle to overcome when drawing or painting portraits.

  84. @Lot
    “Blue eyed people are 20% of the US white population, 45% of whites the United Kingdom.”

    Both those figures seem low to me.

    The line between green and blue as well as green and hazel is fuzzy so we can’t be too precise.

    One of the most striking things about re-watching the first season of Twin Peaks is that nearly everybody has natural blue eyes.

  85. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    Sexual psychology

  86. J.Ross says: • Website
    @prime noticer
    serious observation:

    asian women are much funnier than asian men.

    the trend is obvious.

    so what's going on here. what leads to this inversion of the general rule of thumb of man woman humor relations.

    is it possible...the women had to be more funny to initiate the dating sequence? is the famous reservation of asian guys so significant that they are THAT reluctant to make the first move, expanded over an entire population?

    is it possible selection for humor is flexible and it can appear in women too?

    The man has more to lose because gender roles and workplace expectations have remained in place. Women are always closer to humor in every society. Their time is taken up by chatting with friends more than anything else (poor working housewives are chatting as they work). Men have to worry about displeasing a client or boss. Also, even in a conventional workpkace, rules never apply to women.

  87. @The Last Real Calvinist
    As a straight white man of height who has worked in an overwhelmingly Chinese environment for almost 30 years, I share with Ms Lee a mélange of intersectionally-complicated feelings of rage, shame, crankiness, and intermittent gassy bloviation. For I too have been made the victim, over and over and over yet again, of racist misappropriation, by racist racists, of my very own person.

    It took me years to realize that it also stings.

     

    Me too. How many times did I talk myself into thinking that living in Hong Kong was a great gig, with good pay in a fun city full of interesting things to see and do, and fantastic food, where I met lots of great-looking women, one of whom became my wife. I was deluded all along! The stings were accumulating day by day! Hour by hour!! Minute by minute!!!

    Why, at one point, there were three hu-white men working in my office. I was regularly mistaken for both of the others, both of whom were a head shorter than me, and completely bald. I would run my hands through my almost-intact head of gorgeous mousy hair, and think it hilarious. HOW COULD I HAVE FOOLED MYSELF LIKE THAT FOR SO LONG!?!?!?


    Whether the person acted without malice, the effect is the same: It erases my body of work for someone else’s, simply because their ancestors were born on the same continent as mine.

     

    Oh, preach it, Sister!

    When you peel back the veil of a careless, awkward mistake, you see it for what it truly is: an act of unconscious bias at best, drive-by racism at worst. And it has real consequences for us in the workplace and holds us back in ways we can’t control.

     

    Testify! Testify!!

    All I can say now -- as the husk of a man now broken on the great Rack-O-Racism -- is that I've been held back bigtime.

    Reparations NOW!

    There’s a Western Japan hand (not Seward, not Kerr, I think it was the one with a Hungarian name) who describes being shown Cyrillic writing and expected to translate it because, after all, both he and the message were equally “foreign.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    I wonder how much an educated American could piece together of Cyrillic script using his knowledge of the Latin and Greek systems.

    Of course that wouldn't give him much of the meaning unless it was a technical document heavy in shared terms between English and Russian (or whatever other language).
  88. It took me years to realize that it also stings

    Translation: it took me years of carefully-cultivated ethnic hatred to force myself to care about this issue enough to write a blog article about it, but now I’ve finally achieved that perfect balance of inner narcissism and external insecurity!

  89. @Roger
    Do China and Korea have whiny narcissistic women like this?

    I am assuming that they learn to be whiny narcissists in America, but I am curious as to how this works.

    Same way African women instantly turn into angry black women as soon as they landed, like Ilhan Omar. It must be America’s magic dirt.

  90. @Truth
    It's gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.

    Your name is not sport. It is deport. To Nigeria.

  91. @Truth
    It's gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.

    It’s gotta suck looking like Joe Pesci, Sport.

    Stephen A. Smith too, Champ.

  92. @Anonymous
    She looks rather distinctive to me.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2-lSroE5MdE/VgoNYacAq9I/AAAAAAAAzgA/8czrhxYrzZY/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-09-28%2Bat%2B9.01.49%2BPM.png

    Speaking of dispensable, interchangeable and indistinguishable…

  93. There is some science behind people’s failure to grasp cross-racial identification.

    Science? You don’t need a white coat and a lab full of fancy equipment. People can’t tell Asians apart because Asians look the same.

  94. White men can create a city on Mars and non-Whites, even Asians(successful), Blacks, Browns and Mohammeds (failed societies/cultures) would move to it and cry “White privilege”.

    It’s the immigration, stoopid.

  95. @Paleo Liberal
    On one hand, humans have an amazing ability to recognize even slight differences in the human face. Some of it is training, so people are more likely to be able to distinguish that with which they are familiar.

    At the first glance, especially from a distance or if the view is obscured, what I personally notice is the hair and general body build. At a distance it is hard to tell the difference between two skinny Asian ladies with long black hair. Similarly, it can be hard to tell the difference at a distance between two Scandinavian-American women of similar builds with long blond hair. As for the training, someone in Hong Kong will pick up on distinguishing the Asian ladies faster, while someone in the Upper Peninsula will pick up on distinguishing the blonds faster.

    And you’d better pick up on the differences if you want to pick up the ladies.

    Oh, man, youtube let me down on this one!

    If you are a The Office fan you’d know this, and it would be perfect for the post here, Steve. Michael Scott, feeling lonely at Christmas, brings 2 Oriental girls from Benihana back to the office for the Christmas party. He may or may not have had anything to drink, but he confuses which one of the 2 girls is his new girlfriend.

    He has to check which is which by looking for the magic marker line he surreptitiously made on one of the girls’ wrist!

    Hilarious!

  96. @sailor1031
    Some fifty years ago I was dating a japanese woman. One day she walked right past me on the street without apparently recognizing me. I called after her and she turned around. I asked if she hadn't recognized me and she said "sorry - all you caucasians look alike to me". I was crushed at this vicious denigration and obliteration of my whole person, this utter devaluation of me and everything I stood for (at the time). I've cried myself to sleep every night since then (August 1967) trying to deal with this incredibly huge microaggression. Pity me. Pity me please! I am so broken still.

    Pity me. Pity me please! I am so broken still.

    Uhhh, yeah, whatever, is she still available?

  97. @kaganovitch
    The jokes on you Chris, all of these articles are by different Asian female journalists. What a drive-by racist you are.

    I was told they’d be model minority natural conservatives.

  98. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty
    Around 1990 I walked past a homeless black guy pushing a shopping cart in the SF Tenderloin when I heard him say to his friend, "Damn, that guy look jes like Elliot Gould." It made me feel so unfunny.

    That’s ok with me.

  99. Hey, she’s the one on the Discover Card Cashback Match ads, right?

  100. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/29/liberal-candidate-gladys-liu-criticised-work-ethic-of-non-chinese-migrants

    I find it bizarre that Asian-american women are so uniformly “woke” given they seem so capable of acheiving the old fashioned way. Here in Australia some chinese-Australians are losing their reticence…

  101. Steve, are you playing a prank on us? Have you invented a series of generic, professional Asian-American affirmative action harpies, each of whom is indistinguishable from other professional AA/AA harpies, yet each of whom who complains of whites being unable to tell them apart? (Don’t bother telling me to hit the link; the WP won’t let me read any articles without paying.)

  102. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    There's a Western Japan hand (not Seward, not Kerr, I think it was the one with a Hungarian name) who describes being shown Cyrillic writing and expected to translate it because, after all, both he and the message were equally "foreign."

    I wonder how much an educated American could piece together of Cyrillic script using his knowledge of the Latin and Greek systems.

    Of course that wouldn’t give him much of the meaning unless it was a technical document heavy in shared terms between English and Russian (or whatever other language).

  103. She’s an oriental not an asian. And no we don’t want more orientals – there’s a giant continent filled to the rafters with them. She should take up a new profession: repeat after me “No tikee, no washee!”

    • Replies: @Anon
    Thank you, Mr. FBI man.
  104. @Malcolm Y
    She's an oriental not an asian. And no we don't want more orientals - there's a giant continent filled to the rafters with them. She should take up a new profession: repeat after me "No tikee, no washee!"

    Thank you, Mr. FBI man.

  105. Boo effing hoo. Sorry, that’s the best that I can do.

  106. @sailor1031
    Some fifty years ago I was dating a japanese woman. One day she walked right past me on the street without apparently recognizing me. I called after her and she turned around. I asked if she hadn't recognized me and she said "sorry - all you caucasians look alike to me". I was crushed at this vicious denigration and obliteration of my whole person, this utter devaluation of me and everything I stood for (at the time). I've cried myself to sleep every night since then (August 1967) trying to deal with this incredibly huge microaggression. Pity me. Pity me please! I am so broken still.

    How many other white sailors was she banging?

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