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Derrick Henry of the U. of Alabama has won the 2015 Heisman Trophy for top college football player, with Christian McCaffrey of Stanford the runner-up. This is a repeat of the 2009 result in which Stanford’s Toby Gerhart finished second to the Crimson Tide’s Mark Ingram. (Both results seemed fair to me.)
Early last season, a sharp-eyed reader called attention to how fast was the then true freshman McCaffrey and the breeding for speed that went into producing him: his father Ed was a Pro Bowl wide receiver for the Broncos and his maternal grandfather David Sime won the silver medal in the 1960 Olympic 100m dash. “That’s why Ed and I got together,” his Stanford soccer player mother told Sports Illustrated in 1998. “So we could breed fast white guys.”
Playing in a conference that’s about as tough as any other than Alabama’s SEC, Stanford is 65-15 over the last 6 seasons and headed back to the Rose Bowl. It seems to me that Stanford under former coach Jim Harbaugh developed a strategy much like Duke’s in basketball in the 1990s of becoming the default choice for the top white talent, but I haven’t heard too many other people say this so I may be just over generalizing from a few examples.
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Both were fair results but McCaffrey is 10xmore valuable than Henry and will have a much better NFL career. Henry is slated to be a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick and could have easily been replaced in the Alabama lineup.
That's clearly wrong. There is no way Henry could be replaced on that lineup with another player from that same team. If you disagree, please give me a name.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc
Here’s how the vote went:
White men of the USA, please stop watching Cuckball. Your sons and grandsons will thank you.
McCaffrey deserved to lose. Henry is the far better running back, with all the speed of McC and a lot more power. McC has a lot of rushing yards but relatively few rushing TD’s because he’s not very good at powering into the end zone on short yardage.
McC will probably end up as a WR and doing kick off returns in the NFL.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/noticing-videos-of-the-last-8-olympic-100-meter-dash-finals-show-64-out-of-64-blacks/#comment-1170666
I sympathize with this but a lot of us played “cuck” ball and enjoy seeing it played at a high level.
White men are not really valued at Running Back, due to a perceived lack of explosiveness. With tough defenses, in the upper reaches of minor league (College) football, and in the NFL, all the speed and toughness and strength don’t mean as much as timing and explosiveness/acceleration. In other words, a first down rather than a sack at the goal line is determined by balance, the ability to “sit down” while running to the line and change direction suddenly and then accelerate through a tiny hole in the defensive line.
Accurate or not, White men are believed to lack this ability. And no amount of film, stats, or anything else will convince scouts and GMs to take a White running back for any significant draft picks or money, because you can’t go wrong with a Black pick (i.e. press and fans and owners won’t beat up the decision makers) like you can and will with a White player. Even if the White player dominates, the cry will always be that there were “better” picks who were Black left out there.
The sole exception is the Patriots, who under owner Kraft cares more about winning Superbowls in a small market team than aping Jerry Jones and other owners. Thus moneyballer Belichick is allowed a relatively free hand.
Indeed I’d argue that at least some of the anti-White male agenda stems from the fact that White men are just not competitive in much of the NFL save QB and a few short-yardage Wide Receivers (Edelman, etc.) Given that the NFL due to TV deals (its on over-the-air national broadcast TV on Sundays for decades) is the “national sport” this has negative impacts.
If you're only willing to watch sports without large numbers of blacks, you're stuck with hockey, auto racing and college lacrosse.Replies: @ganderson
I personally suspect them of being Caste Football readers (at the public library or something so it cannot be traced back to the Athletic Dep’t) who conceal it by recruiting for both unrecognized potential and good grades.
Pick up jousting again. It’s a thoroughly European sport.
Steve,
You write about sports on occasion in an even handed manner. (Just like on other topics.)
Have you considered and evaluated black football coaches? It seems to me that there are some successful ones out there and it would be valuable if we could identify some similarities or commonalities.
My opinion is that is more difficult for a black American to be a leader of “everybody” and that the ones who can pull it off are valuable and we might learn something from them.
“Both were fair results but McCaffrey is 10xmore valuable than Henry and will have a much better NFL career. Henry is slated to be a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick and could have easily been replaced in the Alabama lineup.”
That’s clearly wrong. There is no way Henry could be replaced on that lineup with another player from that same team. If you disagree, please give me a name.
Running backs are extremely replaceable in the NFL and increasingly in college. McCaffery adds another dimension with elusiveness and pass catching ability - think a better version of Danny Woodhead. He'll have a much better pro career.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN
That's clearly wrong. There is no way Henry could be replaced on that lineup with another player from that same team. If you disagree, please give me a name.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc
Alabama gave Henry the ball 90 times in the last two games: that sounds pretty irreplaceable.
By the way, shouldn’t there be a limit in the college game on how many carries per game a player could have? Ricky Bell had a 56 carry 350 yard game for USC in the 1970s. Coach John McKay joked afterward that many carries isn’t bad for the running back because the ball isn’t heavy. Bell was dead within a decade of some weird disease. Unrelated? Probably. But still …
Or Earl Campbell, the single most heroic running back I’ve ever seen. His first 3 years in the pros his coach’s strategy was to have him personally beat up the 11 man defense for 3 quarters so he could run wild in the 4th quarter. Incredibly, it actually worked. But Campbell is pretty much in a wheelchair today.
A thirty carry maximum per game would seem pretty reasonable.
http://i.imgur.com/ifVR54i.jpgReplies: @ScarletNumber
Why do you need a Big Four accounting firm to count the ballots?
Is it the 31st carry or is #10 or whatever carry where we don’t fully understand the damage?
Baseball managers have learned a lot about how not to burn out their pitchers by having them go too long in a game. Maybe running with the ball is similar?
I also think the NFL should make an exception to their three years out of high school rule for running backs. While it's difficult to gage how successful a college QB will be in the NFL after only one or two seasons in college, a running back who is a college star after his freshman year has less than zero to gain by staying in college. Look at South Carolina's Marcus Lattimore, who was a huge star his freshman year, and suffered a season-ending injury his sophomore year, and a career-ending one his junior year.Replies: @Steve from Detroit, @EriK
Think about my black football coaches question.
McC will probably end up as a WR and doing kick off returns in the NFL.Replies: @Felix., @granesperanzablanco
No, it’s because the Stanford coach nearly always utilized a different back in the red zone. This back has something like 300 rushing yards on the season but 13 rushing touchdowns, whereas McCaffrey has nearly 2000 rushing yards and only 8 rushing TDs. The average Stanford drive consisted of McCaffrey carrying the ball for 50 yards only to be yanked out and replaced by the black guy the moment Stanford got within 10-5 yards of the goal line. I posted about this here as early as October:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/noticing-videos-of-the-last-8-olympic-100-meter-dash-finals-show-64-out-of-64-blacks/#comment-1170666
If we are to believe the hype, Stanford football players are still students.
I think I’ve brought this up here before…
In this podcast of Russ Roberts’ Econtalk, Roger Noll, Professor of Economics, Emeritus at Stanford says:
So Stanford actively recruits the good students that can play football at the D1 level. And we know what they tend to look like.
Moving OT… Here is, to me anyway, an interesting little factoid: My alma mater, the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota is in next Friday night’s Alonzo Stagg Bowl, which is the D3 championship. They are playing the Mount Union Purple Raiders. This will be Mount Union’s 11th straight appearance in the game. Mount Union has dominated D3 football for over 20 years.
Oh, and I like iffen’s thinking.
More and more college coaches seem to take the prudent approach of platooning their tailbacks. When Pete Carroll was coaching at USC, he had Reggie Bush split carries with Lendale White, even though he knew Bush was clearly the superior talent.
I also think the NFL should make an exception to their three years out of high school rule for running backs. While it’s difficult to gage how successful a college QB will be in the NFL after only one or two seasons in college, a running back who is a college star after his freshman year has less than zero to gain by staying in college. Look at South Carolina’s Marcus Lattimore, who was a huge star his freshman year, and suffered a season-ending injury his sophomore year, and a career-ending one his junior year.
Seems to be the exact opposite with Henry. Alternatively, it could be that Saban simply plays the hand he is dealt. If he only has one superstar back, he runs him into the ground, but if he has two or three, he runs it by committee.
This talks a bit about Dickerson getting snubbed in the Heisman voting in 1982
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/page/heisman-dallas-week8/james-dickersonReplies: @David In TN
Big 4 firms provide some credibility and independence, as also seen at the Oscars. With all the money sloshing around both industries, the opportunities for self-dealing, cheating and all-around skulduggery are too great to allow self-regulation. That didn’t work for Greenspan or Bernanke in the finance world and it wouldn’t work for John Heisman’s people.
I can’t see wear and tear on the arm as being the same as wear and tear on the brain.
Think about my black football coaches question.
Steve,
In all seriousness, Christian had EASILY the most incredible season for a college football player of all-time.
As I’ve long argued though, if you are white and a two-sport star in high school, you should go the baseball route.
Look at the amazing money Jeff Samardzija has made in baseball (guaranteed, mind you) vs. what he might have made in the NFL as a Drew Bennett-style receiver.
Also, it’s my belief the best black high school athletes are being groomed to play offense in college. The relative few dominating linebackers in the game (at this point) are white, which represent a statistical anomaly if you think about.
There was maybe one starting white linebacker in the SEC this year, and he was a (Jake Ganus at UGA, who had only had offers from Air Force and UAB coming out of high school) was a transfer from the now defunct UAB program.
Christian got royally screwed. ROYALLY.
Do we need to worry anymore about RB’s getting too many carries in the NFL. My view is its now a passing game and you can’t go to the Superbowl giving one RB 40 carries a game. Del Marco Murray lead the league in 2014 and never got more than 30-32 carries a game 3 times. The other 13 games he had 19-29 carries. Addrian Peterson has only had 4 30+ carry games in the last five years. Including the season he rushed for 2000.
Remember OJ Simpson’s great 1973 season where he ran for 2000 yards? Well, only 2 games over 30 carries and none for more that 39.
But Campbell was a little different. 1979-1980, two seasons 32 games, 14 games with 30+ carries. So his Coach really did overuse him.
That's clearly wrong. There is no way Henry could be replaced on that lineup with another player from that same team. If you disagree, please give me a name.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Danindc
Saban churns out great running backs every year- Mark Ingram, TJ Yeldon, Eddie Lacy, Trent Richardson etc and Henry is another in a long line. Next year they’ll have another. If Henry wasn’t on the team they’d still finish 11-1 and be in the exact same position. It’s the O-line and the system. Mel Kiper has him slated to be picked in the 3rd round so he’s really nothing special although I expect he’ll have a solid pro career.
Running backs are extremely replaceable in the NFL and increasingly in college. McCaffery adds another dimension with elusiveness and pass catching ability – think a better version of Danny Woodhead. He’ll have a much better pro career.
I've observed pro football for over 50 years and RB is probably the easiest position to fill. If you already have a good QB and defense, a RB who keeps the chains moving running and receiving and doesn't fumble does as much for you as a Simpson-Dickerson type.
That astrodome concrete “turf” probably didn’t help matters either.
Running backs are extremely replaceable in the NFL and increasingly in college. McCaffery adds another dimension with elusiveness and pass catching ability - think a better version of Danny Woodhead. He'll have a much better pro career.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN
If Belichick gets him.
This only works if you can pitch. Otherwise it’s a grear recipe to end up wasting away in the minor leagues. Most two star atheletes can’t throw 97MPH.
Stanford is the top school for smart talent. The core of the team is the o line and it is usually about half white. Is is a whiter team than most of the PAC 12. No black Qb’s. Richard Sherman is one of the few thugs that have played for Stanford. He spouts a lot. But no bad actions.
I think Luck should have won the Heisman a few years back.
I think I've brought this up here before...
In this podcast of Russ Roberts' Econtalk, Roger Noll, Professor of Economics, Emeritus at Stanford says:So Stanford actively recruits the good students that can play football at the D1 level. And we know what they tend to look like.
Moving OT... Here is, to me anyway, an interesting little factoid: My alma mater, the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota is in next Friday night's Alonzo Stagg Bowl, which is the D3 championship. They are playing the Mount Union Purple Raiders. This will be Mount Union's 11th straight appearance in the game. Mount Union has dominated D3 football for over 20 years.
Oh, and I like iffen's thinking.Replies: @Chet
According to Professor Noll’s assertion only about 3% of incoming Division 1 freshman football players can gain admittance to an elite university based on academic merit. Any estimates on the percentage of basketball players with the same academic credentials?
I think you’re underestimating the number of white guys. I was watching Stanford with my 10-year this season and he asked if Stanford had any black guys on the team. We had to wait for the defense to get on the field to confirm there were.
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/stanford/91901
I thought that was a given.
Running backs are extremely replaceable in the NFL and increasingly in college. McCaffery adds another dimension with elusiveness and pass catching ability - think a better version of Danny Woodhead. He'll have a much better pro career.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN
“Running backs are extremely replaceable in the NFL and increasingly in college”
I’ve observed pro football for over 50 years and RB is probably the easiest position to fill. If you already have a good QB and defense, a RB who keeps the chains moving running and receiving and doesn’t fumble does as much for you as a Simpson-Dickerson type.
Alabama running backs underperform in the NFL because they run behind incredible offensive lines that make them look better than they are. Alabama gets the best recruits almost every year as judged by ESPN, if not the number one team always in the top five. But you will also notice that Henry is a power back, huge and fast but not very shifty. That works well in college but it doesn’t translate very well to the NFL. The force of impact is so much greater in the NFL the power backs just don’t last very long just like quarterbacks that successfully ran a lot in college don’t do well in the NFL because they get injured to often.
If you ever get great seats and sit close to an actual NFL game you begin to understand that these men are subjecting themselves to something like a car accident multiple times a game.
Worth pointing out here that Stanford’s coach since 2011 is black. And that he was the Offensive Coordinator throughout Harbaugh’s tenure.
What’s interesting from the HBD perspective, and which you chose to ignore, is that the quarterback candidate for the Heismann Trophy was black while a running back candidate was white. That would have looked ass-backwards not so long ago, which shows how stupid it is to draw generalized conclusions based on snapshots in time.
Also interesting from the HBD perspective is that the only unbeaten team in the NFL (so far) is led by a black quarterback and coached by a mexican/puerto rican.
Also interesting from the HBD perspective
You seem to be vexed by the HBD perspective.
Exceptions to the stereotype do not disprove the basis for the stereotype.Replies: @Bliss
Belichick is pretty good at identifying underpriced football assets. That’s the secret to his success all these years.
Accurate or not, White men are believed to lack this ability. And no amount of film, stats, or anything else will convince scouts and GMs to take a White running back for any significant draft picks or money, because you can't go wrong with a Black pick (i.e. press and fans and owners won't beat up the decision makers) like you can and will with a White player. Even if the White player dominates, the cry will always be that there were "better" picks who were Black left out there.
The sole exception is the Patriots, who under owner Kraft cares more about winning Superbowls in a small market team than aping Jerry Jones and other owners. Thus moneyballer Belichick is allowed a relatively free hand.
Indeed I'd argue that at least some of the anti-White male agenda stems from the fact that White men are just not competitive in much of the NFL save QB and a few short-yardage Wide Receivers (Edelman, etc.) Given that the NFL due to TV deals (its on over-the-air national broadcast TV on Sundays for decades) is the "national sport" this has negative impacts.Replies: @Marty T
The most unguardable offensive player (Gronk) and arguably the best defensive player (Watt) are both blond white dudes.
If you’re only willing to watch sports without large numbers of blacks, you’re stuck with hockey, auto racing and college lacrosse.
Umm, there are at least 2 black starters in Stanford’s offensive line, and 2 non-hispanic whites on defense. Looks almost evenly balanced between black and white:
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/stanford/91901
My guess is it’s about the same % of basketball players. The average SAT of college bball players might be a little lower than for football players but it seems like Ivies and similar schools generally need to dip a little less for bball players than for football players.
McC will probably end up as a WR and doing kick off returns in the NFL.Replies: @Felix., @granesperanzablanco
McCaffery is having the best all around offensive year in NCAA history but OK he deserved to lose because the Heisman more or less the award given the the best ACC player
You write about sports on occasion in an even handed manner. (Just like on other topics.)
Have you considered and evaluated black football coaches? It seems to me that there are some successful ones out there and it would be valuable if we could identify some similarities or commonalities.
My opinion is that is more difficult for a black American to be a leader of "everybody" and that the ones who can pull it off are valuable and we might learn something from them.Replies: @no name
I had the exact same thought when I read this article, with the added wrinkle that black coaches seem to be more successful at the pro level than college.
Black NFL coaches, on the other hand, have the Rooney Rule working for them. They can fail into a new job, just like the average MLB manager, because teams are forced to interview them.Replies: @Bliss
College coaching includes recruiting and that requires the assistance of a whole bunch of local small businessmen, car dealers and the like, who chip in low 5 figures annually to get the talent. So it helps to be a guy car dealers identify with.
I’ve never understood the freak out over Sherman’s post game interview with Erin Andrews. It wasn’t that bad.
No bad actions? Then where’s the thug part?
I don’t see McCaffrey doing well in the pros as a RB. He does move like a shorter version of his dad but he’s not that impressive to me.
Quick but I don’t see rocket speed, a top gear and he isn’t strong enough for NFL RB abuse.
Special teams and receiving out of the backfield on 3rd downs.
Wes Welker is listed at 5'9" and 185 lbs. with a 4.65 40 time.
Julian Edelman is listed at 5'10" and 198 lbs. with a 4.52 40 time.
McCaffrey is 19, and he's going to get stronger and faster. He has the physical prerequisites to have a successful NFL career.
There are also the absolute numbers. Around 350 D1 basketball schools, each with 12 players = 4000, compared with 130 D1-A football schools, each with 80 players = 10,000. One or two elite black recruits per year who meet the standard academically are enough to make the difference on a basketball team.
Richard Sherman comes from Compton, but he’s a 3 digit IQ guy.
By the way, did you see that Russell Wilson over the last four games has thrown for 16 TDs and zero interceptions? Those are hard numbers to put up this late in the season.
I have to confess: I’m a Self-Hating Tall Guy and thus I tend to root for shorter NFL quarterbacks like Wilson, Drew Brees, or Doug Flutie back in the day.
Wilson has completed 89 of 118 passes for 1,171 yards and 16 touchdowns — with zero interceptions — over the past four games, contests Seattle has won by an average score of 35-14. His passer rating over that stretch is 145.9, the best four-game run for a quarterback with at least 100 pass attempts since at least 1960, and probably ever.
— Wilson has had a passer rating of at least 138.5 in each of his past four games, the first time that’s happened since 1960.
— Wilson has produced at least four touchdowns in each of the past three games. The only other quarterbacks to ever do that: Dan Marino, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.
— Wilson has at least three passing touchdowns and zero interceptions in four consecutive games. The only other quarterbacks to ever do that: Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
— Wilson has at least three passing touchdowns, a 70 percent completion rate and no interceptions in four straight games. The only quarterback to ever do that: Russell Wilson, right now.
The chances are good that the next Super Bowl could be the 4th in a row to feature a black quarterback: Cam Newton or Russell Wilson (for the third time).
Less likely, but the odds are decent enough that the next Super Bowl could also feature a black coach: Mike Tomlin or Marvin Lewis.
I also think the NFL should make an exception to their three years out of high school rule for running backs. While it's difficult to gage how successful a college QB will be in the NFL after only one or two seasons in college, a running back who is a college star after his freshman year has less than zero to gain by staying in college. Look at South Carolina's Marcus Lattimore, who was a huge star his freshman year, and suffered a season-ending injury his sophomore year, and a career-ending one his junior year.Replies: @Steve from Detroit, @EriK
Ironically, this is what Saban has been preaching at Alabama. A few years ago I read an article that wanted to know how Alabama kept getting multiple 5-star recruits at RB who competed and eventually had to share time carrying the ball. Saban’s response was, in effect, we show them that having less carries that still have a high per carry average is what it takes to get noticed and drafted by the NFL. He essentially said that by “saving some carries” they would be left with more in the tank at the next level.
Seems to be the exact opposite with Henry. Alternatively, it could be that Saban simply plays the hand he is dealt. If he only has one superstar back, he runs him into the ground, but if he has two or three, he runs it by committee.
I always wondered what would have happened had Jameis Winston gone to Stanford instead of FSU. Don’t laugh – Winston was in fact offered a football scholly by Stanford, and may have even had the academic record to get into Stanford as a normal affirmative action student. I think Stanford rather than FSU would have won the national championship with him at the helm in 2013, and maybe even in 2014. And as far as his well-documented off-the-field shenanigans are concerned, perhaps Stanford would have provided an environment with far less temptation than Florida State did.
I also think the NFL should make an exception to their three years out of high school rule for running backs. While it's difficult to gage how successful a college QB will be in the NFL after only one or two seasons in college, a running back who is a college star after his freshman year has less than zero to gain by staying in college. Look at South Carolina's Marcus Lattimore, who was a huge star his freshman year, and suffered a season-ending injury his sophomore year, and a career-ending one his junior year.Replies: @Steve from Detroit, @EriK
No discussion of platooning tailbacks is complete without mention of the Pony Express of HOF RB Eric Dickerson and Craig James (last white guy to rush for more than 1000 yds in the NFL IIRC).
This talks a bit about Dickerson getting snubbed in the Heisman voting in 1982
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/page/heisman-dallas-week8/james-dickerson
Peyton Hillis ran for 1177 yards in 2010 for Cleveland.Replies: @EriK
Belichick is also good at spotting guys who are good enough at doing multiple things. His Next Man Up strategy allows the Patriots to keep winning even with injuries to key players. Plus I’ll bet there are a lot of guys who would play for the Patriots for the league minimum just to have a chance for a Super Bowl ring. I would. Throw me the damn ball, Tom!
Sounds like nationalism as LARPing.
If you're only willing to watch sports without large numbers of blacks, you're stuck with hockey, auto racing and college lacrosse.Replies: @ganderson
2 of those 3 work for me!
Successful college football programs have to satisfy, as Steve pointed out, the boosters, without whose money they can’t buy the studs. The boosters are mostly middle-aged white guys.
Black NFL coaches, on the other hand, have the Rooney Rule working for them. They can fail into a new job, just like the average MLB manager, because teams are forced to interview them.
This talks a bit about Dickerson getting snubbed in the Heisman voting in 1982
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/page/heisman-dallas-week8/james-dickersonReplies: @David In TN
“…Craig James (last white guy to rush for more than 1000 yards in the NFL IIRC)…”
Peyton Hillis ran for 1177 yards in 2010 for Cleveland.
Quick but I don't see rocket speed, a top gear and he isn't strong enough for NFL RB abuse.
Special teams and receiving out of the backfield on 3rd downs.Replies: @Brutusale, @David In TN
McCaffrey is listed at 6′, 201 lbs. with a 4.50 40-yard dash time.
Wes Welker is listed at 5’9″ and 185 lbs. with a 4.65 40 time.
Julian Edelman is listed at 5’10” and 198 lbs. with a 4.52 40 time.
McCaffrey is 19, and he’s going to get stronger and faster. He has the physical prerequisites to have a successful NFL career.
Quick but I don't see rocket speed, a top gear and he isn't strong enough for NFL RB abuse.
Special teams and receiving out of the backfield on 3rd downs.Replies: @Brutusale, @David In TN
Neither Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith had “rocket speed, a top gear.” As to whether “he isn’t strong enough for NFL RB abuse,” you never know for sure about any RB until he does it.
One could draw the conclusion that people and groups who really believe in drastically increasing the number of black college coaches could get what they want by joining the booster clubs and coming up with the money. Or is this one of those situations where the objective is not the objective; it’s the process or method of accomplishment that is important?
Peyton Hillis ran for 1177 yards in 2010 for Cleveland.Replies: @EriK
Thanks for the correction.
A good many sportswriters and columnists chortled over the years that James was the last white 1000-yard rusher.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/12/14/russell-wilson-had-the-best-four-game-stretch-in-nfl-history/
Wilson has completed 89 of 118 passes for 1,171 yards and 16 touchdowns — with zero interceptions — over the past four games, contests Seattle has won by an average score of 35-14. His passer rating over that stretch is 145.9, the best four-game run for a quarterback with at least 100 pass attempts since at least 1960, and probably ever.
— Wilson has had a passer rating of at least 138.5 in each of his past four games, the first time that’s happened since 1960.
— Wilson has produced at least four touchdowns in each of the past three games. The only other quarterbacks to ever do that: Dan Marino, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.
— Wilson has at least three passing touchdowns and zero interceptions in four consecutive games. The only other quarterbacks to ever do that: Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
— Wilson has at least three passing touchdowns, a 70 percent completion rate and no interceptions in four straight games. The only quarterback to ever do that: Russell Wilson, right now.
The chances are good that the next Super Bowl could be the 4th in a row to feature a black quarterback: Cam Newton or Russell Wilson (for the third time).
Less likely, but the odds are decent enough that the next Super Bowl could also feature a black coach: Mike Tomlin or Marvin Lewis.
Black NFL coaches, on the other hand, have the Rooney Rule working for them. They can fail into a new job, just like the average MLB manager, because teams are forced to interview them.Replies: @Bliss
It shows the reality of white privilege in America that NFL teams had to be forced to interview black coaches. As does the handicap black coaches still have to deal with in college football.
Since the Rooney Rule was instituted in 2003, black coaches have competed in 4 Super Bowls, winning 2. In one Super Bowl both head coaches were black. And one black coach, Tomlin, has been to 2 Super Bowls, winning once.
The flip side of your position is that of someone like Tom Coughlin, winner of two Super Bowls and has had the press calling for his dismissal since he took the job due to of his Belichickian demeanor. Two SB wins makes a black coach immune to firing.
I know some Steelers fans who’d argue that they should have had 3 or 4 Super Bowl appearances under Tomlin.
The flip side of your position is that of someone like Tom Coughlin, winner of two Super Bowls and has had the press calling for his dismissal since he took the job due to of his Belichickian demeanor. Two SB wins makes a black coach immune to firing.
What's interesting from the HBD perspective, and which you chose to ignore, is that the quarterback candidate for the Heismann Trophy was black while a running back candidate was white. That would have looked ass-backwards not so long ago, which shows how stupid it is to draw generalized conclusions based on snapshots in time.
Also interesting from the HBD perspective is that the only unbeaten team in the NFL (so far) is led by a black quarterback and coached by a mexican/puerto rican.Replies: @iffen
What’s interesting from the HBD perspective
Also interesting from the HBD perspective
You seem to be vexed by the HBD perspective.
Exceptions to the stereotype do not disprove the basis for the stereotype.
Ditto for black coaches in the NFL today. There are 5 black head coaches (4 would have been equal representation) and 3 of them have healthy winning records. Together all 5 are at 36W-29L.Replies: @iffen, @David In TN
Also interesting from the HBD perspective
You seem to be vexed by the HBD perspective.
Exceptions to the stereotype do not disprove the basis for the stereotype.Replies: @Bliss
I mention HBD in a blog devoted to HBD and that bothers you? Funny how that only happens when the facts presented do not fit the race realist narrative…
You must have a problem thinking rationally. These are not exceptions to the stereotype, these are ringing refutations of it. The stereotype used to be that blacks do not have the cognitive ability to be quarterbacks. Black quarterbacks are now not only disproportionately represented in college football and the NFL, they outperform white quarterbacks on average.
Ditto for black coaches in the NFL today. There are 5 black head coaches (4 would have been equal representation) and 3 of them have healthy winning records. Together all 5 are at 36W-29L.
Well I do try to exercise caution because I know that I can get off on the wrong track sometimes. For example, you used the percentage of black Americans for comparison to the number of NFL coaches and I would have irrationally used the percentage of NFL players that are black to make the comparison.
No, they don't. With few exceptions they don't put up the high passing yardage totals white QBs do.Replies: @Bliss
Ditto for black coaches in the NFL today. There are 5 black head coaches (4 would have been equal representation) and 3 of them have healthy winning records. Together all 5 are at 36W-29L.Replies: @iffen, @David In TN
You must have a problem thinking rationally.
Well I do try to exercise caution because I know that I can get off on the wrong track sometimes. For example, you used the percentage of black Americans for comparison to the number of NFL coaches and I would have irrationally used the percentage of NFL players that are black to make the comparison.
Ditto for black coaches in the NFL today. There are 5 black head coaches (4 would have been equal representation) and 3 of them have healthy winning records. Together all 5 are at 36W-29L.Replies: @iffen, @David In TN
“…they outperform white quarterbacks on average.”
No, they don’t. With few exceptions they don’t put up the high passing yardage totals white QBs do.
This year in the NFL all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half, so 5/16. Draw the correct conclusions.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbrReplies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN, @iffen
No, they don't. With few exceptions they don't put up the high passing yardage totals white QBs do.Replies: @Bliss
Of the last 5 college quarterbacks to win the Heisman Trophy 3 were black (one was samoan).
This year in the NFL all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half, so 5/16. Draw the correct conclusions.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr
Is Winston inactive or not black?
This year in the NFL all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half, so 5/16. Draw the correct conclusions.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbrReplies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN, @iffen
The NFL’s black quarterbacks have been red hot the last few weeks.
This year in the NFL all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half, so 5/16. Draw the correct conclusions.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbrReplies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN, @iffen
Case Keenum, who wasn’t drafted after setting several NCAA records, outperformed Winston tonight. Keenum looked more advanced than Winston with about the same amount of starts.
This year in the NFL all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half, so 5/16. Draw the correct conclusions.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbrReplies: @Steve Sailer, @David In TN, @iffen
all 5 active black quarterbacks are ranked in the top half
Is Winston inactive or not black?