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From the Detroit News:

Tlaib: Use only blacks as Detroit’s facial recognition analysts
George Hunter, The Detroit News Published 11:07 p.m. ET Oct. 1, 2019

U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib told Detroit police Chief James Craig he should employ only black people on the department’s facial recognition team because “non-African Americans think African-Americans all look the same.”

The Detroit Democrat made the statement during a tour of the Real Time Crime center, where monitors display live footage from video cameras on traffic lights and in and around businesses.

A day after Tlaib made the comment Monday, her spokesman said she was trying to convey the importance of accurately identifying black suspects in a city with an African American population of about 80%.

Police officials invited Tlaib to the facility inside Public Safety Headquarters to see how Detroit uses facial recognition software, after she criticized the technology in an Aug. 20 tweet. The congresswoman wrote: “@detroitpolice You should probably rethink this whole facial recognition bull—-.”

The tour, which lasted more than an hour, was often tense, with Tlaib and Craig wrangling over how the department uses the software, privacy issues, and concerns that the technology misidentifies a disproportionate number of darker-skinned people. A major point of contention: whether only black civilians should work in the crime center analyzing photos flagged by the software.

“Analysts need to be African Americans, not people that are not,” Tlaib told Craig. “I think non-African Americans think African Americans all look the same.

“I’ve seen it even on the House floor: People calling Elijah Cummings ‘John Lewis,’ and John Lewis ‘Elijah Cummings,’ and they’re totally different people,” Tlaib said, referring to the two longtime Democratic congressmen.

Barely:

… Craig replied: “I trust people who are trained, regardless of race; regardless of gender. It’s about the training.”

“I know,” Tlaib answered. “But it does make a huge difference with the analysts.”

After the tour, when a reporter asked whether she meant white people weren’t qualified to work in the crime center, Tlaib said: “No, I think there has actually been studies out that it’s hard for — African Americans would identify African Americans, or Latinos, same thing.”

Tlaib then was asked whether that means non-whites should be barred from working as crime analysts in mostly white communities. She replied: “Look it up.” …

Tlaib in July joined Democratic U.S. Reps. Yvette D. Clarke and Ayanna Pressley in filing the “No Biometric Barriers Housing Act of 2019,” which would prohibit the usage of facial recognition technology in most federally funded public housing. …

Shaw said state police train constantly to guard against bias.

“There’s implicit bias in everything we do,” he said. “You just heard it in (Tlaib’s) comments.”

[email protected]

A recent press release from Congressman John Lewis:

REP. JOHN LEWIS ANNOUNCES PLANS TO GROW A BEARD
April 1, 2019 Press Release

WASHINGTON – Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) announced plans on Monday to grow a beard in an attempt to avoid being repeatedly mistaken for Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD).

“Just this weekend, I went to church in Maryland. Someone came up to me and said, ‘Hi, Mr. Cummings! I vote for you all the time,’’’ said Lewis. “I just said thank you. What else could I say? That’s when I decided, I should just grow a beard.”

Rep. Lewis’s announcement comes after years of “baldist” press reports that have confused the two famously clean shaven, African-American members of Congress. Both are outspoken opponents of the administration and have served in the House more than 53 years combined. To make things even more confusing, Rep. Cummings is chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, while Rep. Lewis chairs the Oversight Subcommittee of the House Ways and Means Committee.

But the frequent cases of mistaken identity extend beyond the press to the street, where Rep. Lewis is sometimes confused for his colleague from Baltimore.

“People stop me all the time and tell me they’re from Maryland,” Rep. Lewis added. “I’m John Lewis, from Georgia. Rep. Cummings is a good friend of mine, but we’re not the same person.

“I considered getting a tattoo on the back of my head, just to clear things up. I tried to convince Elijah to get one too, but that didn’t go over so well.

“I guess being mistaken does have its advantages, though,” said Lewis. “Elijah’s younger than me, so I guess being mistaken for him is kind of a compliment. Maybe one day when I have a schedule conflict, I’ll see if he wouldn’t mind sitting in a hearing for me. You think anybody would notice?”

 
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  1. newrouter says:

    Ctrl F yielded zero results for “hair” in that article.

  2. John Lewis and Elijah Cummings do bear a striking resemblance to one another.

    • Agree: Ash Williams
  3. black sea says:

    Has anyone asked her whether — as a non-African American — she thinks African Americans all look the same?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Hail
    , @HonestBl
  4. Black people are probably much better at identifying black faces simply as a matter of training. And nearly all the relevant faces for that job in Detroit will be black. It makes a certain sense.

    • Replies: @JosephB
    , @bjondo
  5. istevefan says:
    @black sea

    That does seem like a good follow-up question. She seemed to speak with much authority on that topic as though she too has a hard time distinguishing AAs.

  6. I have a better test for distinguishing between black people: I just ask them, “Aren’t you Sugar Ray …?”

    Never fails! Try it.

  7. Separate species.

    No seriously, the mythological nappy hair obsessed white boys, Gay black fascist statue, the Harvard case, the Halloween cancellation, the anti-white whites, Will Wilkerson’s totalitarianism, the war on rifles and “racist” facial recognition software–all make the same case …

    Separate Nations.

    Things work well when people of the same race, history, culture, norms and values are together.

    But when people do not share a common understanding, worse when there is a wide gap in capabilities that effectively rules out “let the chips fall where they may” meritocracy but instead generates demands for political allocation … being together just creates conflict and contention. And basically there is no longer a nation, but simple a “state”, a badgering state wielding police power to hold things together.

    Diversity sucks.

  8. “I’ve seen it even on the House floor: People calling Elijah Cummings ‘John Lewis,’ and John Lewis ‘Elijah Cummings,’ and they’re totally different people,” Tlaib said, referring to the two longtime Democratic congressmen. “I see it all the time, and I love them because they go along with it.”

    ‘And by ‘people,’ I mean me. Two old, bald black guys. Seriously, can you tell the difference? One time I saw Elijah Cummings in the Rayburn cafeteria and I thought he was one of the Four Tops.’

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  9. Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-MI = Real dim Arab dipshit.

    • LOL: Hail, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
    , @Jesse
  10. There is an old saying that while claiming all black people look alike is racist, sometimes they look so much alike that to claim they DON’T look alike is racist.

    I have to say, Congressmen Cummings and Lewis look alike.

  11. Marty says:

    Willie Mays And Lou Rawls looked alike.

  12. JimB says:
    @International Jew

    John Lewis and Elijah Cummings do bear a striking resemblance to one another.

    And to George Foreman.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  13. Kronos says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yes, the “Austro Hungarian Empire” was a great success. A pillar of socio/economic stability.

    Nation-states are preferable to state-nations.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  14. El Dato says:

    Face recognizer: “Gorilla” “Gorilla” “Gorilla” “Gorilla” “Will Smith” “Gorilla” “Gorilla” “Gorilla”

    “There’s implicit bias in everything we do,” he said. “You just heard it in (Tlaib’s) comments.”

    We put implicit bias in your implicit bias so you can bias while you bias and mishear what La Tlaib has said!

  15. @Reg Cæsar

    Even though she is a Class A moron, I am all for Rep. Tllibb’bba’s (their names all look equally unpronouncticatible to me) insistence on all black crime AI analysts – which sounds as plausible as “high-school dropout single-mother meth-addict baseball statistician and pastry chefs”

    WhyPipo in Detroit: get out. Stop trying to prop it up; it’s lost. Let them burn it and each other to the ground. It can be rebuilt from the ashes. I have been to beautiful cities in Europe that were completely rubble-ized in World War II, yet were painstakingly rebuilt to their former glory and beyond – it’s what white people do. Let this black cop staff his force and administration with all blacks and see it all burn down quickly instead of prolonging the misery with white intelligence.

    Get out.

    • Agree: Jim bob Lassiter
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  16. OTish: Steve, the Beeb is coming after your boy, Francis Galton: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008zc7

    Be interesting to see what position they take on abortion.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    , @El Dato
  17. I thought I was still reading “Are Neanderthals the Same Species as Us?”

  18. Hail says: • Website
    @black sea

    She is fairly dark for a Palestinian. Would vaguely pass for a light-skinned Black, I’d say, in general terms in the US. Or maybe some kind of Amerindian-Black-White mash-up.

  19. Someone needs to troll Tlaib and point out that this is actually a great idea… in that it will likely enable police to catch and incarcerate more Black criminals than they could before. Thanks, Rashida!

    • Replies: @Pericles
  20. Harper’s has already come out and said that Artificial Intelligence will be racist because it’s going to be programmed by white guys who will unwittingly write their own biases into the code.

  21. Hail says: • Website

    when a reporter asked whether she meant white people weren’t qualified to work in the crime center, Tlaib said: “No, I think there has actually been studies out that it’s hard for — African Americans would identify African Americans, or Latinos, same thing.”

    Tlaib then was asked whether that means non-whites should be barred from working as crime analysts in mostly white communities. She replied: “Look it up.”

    These comments are incoherent.

    In text form, they actually read like someone under the influence of a drug or alcohol.

    The video shows otherwise, though. I have seldom heard Rep. Tlaib speak extemporaneously and looked up the video of this bizarre incident to see what she was like. But her non-verbal communication style was much less interesting than her next words, right after “look it up,” which were:

    “And if you look, the studies say that White analysts should be analyzing White suspects.”

    So this is a surprising turn of events, in which Rep. Tlaib actually endorses racial segregation (or, in a manner of speaking, “separate nations,” per AnotherDad). At least she can be respected for being consistent here.

    She delivered the above line clearly, with furrowed brow (tense, defensive), and nodding her head continuously, I suppose for affirmation from one or more persons off-camera. (See Youtube video at 1:25 for this line.)

    Possible alt. headline:

    Rep. Tlaib Endorses Racial Segregation

    So “Whites should run white communities; Blacks should run Black communities.” That is what she is saying. She wouldn’t find (m)any white ethnonationalists who disageree in principle.

    • Replies: @Leo D
  22. Paul says:

    Why would anybody think all blacks look the same? 😉

    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
  23. Ethnic narcissism is the major driver for our ruling caste.

  24. eah says:

  25. Pericles says:
    @Rouetheday

    Indeed, but why troll? If facial recognition is to be used, make sure it works flawlessly on blacks, hispanics, indians, chinese, women, LGBT and whatever else you’ve got. Open the funding spigot, make it so.

  26. What’s most remarkable about this incident is that the media actually asked probing, challenging questions to a Democrat. The result was Rep. Tlaib’s proposal was instantly revealed as jibberish.

    What % of political stupidity could we eliminate if the media stopped propagandizing and simply reported and asked questions?

    • Replies: @nymom
  27. Hail says: • Website
    @eah

    It is somewhat axiomatic at this point that diversity of all sorts, including racial diversity, is an important aspect of education

    __________

    at this point

    Sloppy writing; should have used the technical term, “In the current year.”

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  28. Coemgen says:

    “Natural Stupidity”–nice–did you coin that?

    I believe there will be (is?) a synergy between AI and NS (natural stupidity) and that synergy will end in total civilizational collapse (TCC).

    AI + NS => TCC

  29. @Hail

    Occasional Cortex and the chick who married her brother are not bad looking. But poor Tlaib is definitely the ugly friend in that clique of mean girls. They probably talk trash about her when she’s not around.

  30. @Paul

    In North Hollywood, they all look like “cross the street and then check your six” to me…

  31. @eah

    I think that is a direct citation from the Declaration of Political Correctness.

    “We hold these Truths to be Self-Evident. . .

    Diversity is our strength;

    We must believe all women;

    There are at least 37 genders;

    We are a Nation of Immigrants;

    Race is jusy a social construct;

    People who think they are White carry White Privilege in their Invisble Knapsacks;

  32. I guess a case could be made for blacks “coaching” the AI – I would expect them to be quicker.

    Never for the coding, not for the analysis, and then there would be the obvious issue of trust
    (the real reason Ms. Talib wants analysts whose cousin is expexted to be flagged by the system).

  33. @Hypnotoad666

    Which is why I appreciate Steve delivering this story without the usually obligatory picture of Tlaib with her mouth open (apparently nobody’s ever gotten a shot of her when her falafel hole isn’t flapping).

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  34. JosephB says:
    @oddsbodkins

    I agree. I believe there have been studies to that effect; it’s not a black-specific problem: each race is better at identifying members of its own. I don’t see that this result as terribly surprising, nor her comment as terribly shocking. Ok, arguing for 100% blacks is over the top, but it seems one of the overall less crazy things said recently.

    Steve, why did this statement make the cut? Was it the humorous side by side of Cummings and Lewis?

  35. @eah

    The reference to “prove” this axiom is Brown vs. Board of Education, a blatant political decision that nothing to do with law and everything to do with GoodWhites “allowing” blacks into schools with poor whites, one of the original virtue signals.

    “Segregation with the sanction of law, therefore, has a tendency to [retard] the educational and mental development of negro children and to deprive them of some of the benefits they would receive in a racial[ly] integrated school system.”

    All that access to white people for over 60 years, and still nobody as “benefited”.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    , @eah
  36. Realist says:

    Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) announced plans on Monday to grow a beard in an attempt to avoid being repeatedly mistaken for Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD).

    They are not mistaken for each other because of their appearance…it’s because they are equally dumb assholes.

  37. @Oleaginous Outrager

    According to Walter Williams, a lot of the plaintiffs were looking to get more state funding for black schools, not racial integration.

  38. RobUK says:

    A massive self-own, as she has basically said the majority of the suspects are black.

  39. eah says:
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    The reference to “prove” this axiom is Brown vs. Board of Education

    I did not read more than the short snippet — but I thought it was probably referring to the more recent Michigan case (Grutter v. Bollinger), which re-affirmed/upheld (codified really, at least for now) the “compelling interest” characterization that first arose in the the Bakke case.

    Anyway, this axiomatic view is currently more or less the de facto as well as the de jure position of the American Establishment re diversity — any court has enough precedent to re-assert it, if it so chooses.

    • Replies: @eah
  40. Arclight says:

    I have said it before and will say it again : the GOP needs to ensure that Tlaib, AOC, Pressly and other low-IQ reps have a long stay in office and should support similar candidates in primaries in noncompetitive districts.

    They don’t just drive conservatives nuts, they alienate other members of the Democratic coalition.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  41. Jesse says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    She ain’t stupid. The Arabs are going to, if not take over Detroit entirely, then be very important leaders. It makes sense to butter up the blacks while you slowly but surely drive them out.

  42. @AnotherDad

    And basically there is no longer a nation, but simple a “state”, a badgering state wielding police power to hold things together.

    Since we can’t all get along, can’t we just agree to Balkanize peacefully?

    The only thing that would prevent this is the nukes. Split them up according to population? Maybe a nuclear weapon co-op? I’m open to suggestions.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  43. Leo D says:
    @Hail

    Except that even in majority white communities, blacks would commit a disproportional amount of the crime…so I guess you would need black analysts in the white communities…

  44. HonestBl says:
    @black sea

    That’s what I thought. I think it was all projection! SHE can’t differentiate between black people. This is why she said what she said.

  45. Glaivester says: • Website

    No one has yet identified the real problem: John Lewis and Elijah Cummings have the same resting bitchface.

    • LOL: fish
  46. Thea says:
    @eah

    A Harvard degree will soon convey the same status as one from State U.

  47. @JimB

    What about Charles Barkley?

    • Replies: @mmack
  48. @International Jew

    Of course the do; they’re both black.

  49. @Hail

    Sounds like you’re tying to make up your mind whether or not to hit on her.

  50. @Arclight

    My family has been Democrats for so long I even had an ancestor who was a major under General Jackson.

    I realized back in 2015 that the professional Trump haters were strengthening Trump. Being a good Democrat, I didn’t want Trump to win. I firmly believed that only she professional Trump haters could get him elected.

    The thing is, we have a weird symbiotic relationship. Trump strengthens the professional Trump haters, while the professional Trump haters strengthen Trump. I am sure Trump knows this. That is why he goads the “squad “ so much.

    One time I had to laugh. Tlaib claimed in an article that Trump was scared of her. Yeah, like B’rer Rabbit was scared of the briar patch.

    Being a good Democrat, I wish the mod squad would just fade away. I think it would be best for the party, the country, and their constituents.

    • Replies: @Arclight
  51. Thirdtwin says:

    Elijah Cummings…Didn’t he invent the elevator? And I’m pretty sure John Lewis invented the light bulb.

  52. nymom says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    It was actually just the opposite…

    Whoever wrote the article left out the portion of her reply after “Look it up”…so of course, leaving out the following sentence made it appear she was talking nonsense; but in fact her follow-up showed the exact opposite.

    She actually endorsed the idea, based on the research referred to in the “Look it up” remark that Whites should only work in the centers in White neighborhoods and Blacks in the centers in Black neighborhoods.

    I would even take it a step further and say: Black police officers should work in Black neighborhoods and White police officers in White neighborhoods…we would cut down on a lot of the nonsense going on today with that rule.

    Clearly it took an outsider like Tlaib to see the logic in this idea.

  53. Whiskey says: • Website

    Steve missed the big one with Tlaib. She will send US Marshals to arrest Trump admin official s.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @El Dato
  54. jim jones says:
    @Henry's Cat

    I almost wish I had a TV license just so I could watch that. What is so wrong with Eugenics anyway, all the problems of the World are caused by stupid people.

  55. bjondo says:
    @oddsbodkins

    True.
    Applies across the globe.
    I can’t tell Chinese apart
    in Chinese movies.
    Eskimos? Mexicans? Tuaregs?
    Problems.

    The real stupids are the high IQs
    who continue with AI and GMOs.

  56. Ragno says:

    U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib told Detroit police Chief James Craig he should employ only black people on the department’s facial recognition team…..A day after Tlaib made the comment Monday, her spokesman said she was trying to convey the importance of accurately identifying black suspects in a city with an African American population of about 80%.

    If blacks take to facial recognition the way they took to jury duty, Detroit had better jack up their sales taxes sky high, because they’ll soon have written their last traffic tickets.

  57. @Hypnotoad666

    But poor Tlaib is definitely the ugly friend in that clique of mean girls.

    When you hail from the crossroads of the world, you have a good chance of inheriting a crossroads of features.

  58. Let’s put Lewis and Cummings in a lineup, and not just because that is where they belong, and let’s see if Tlaib can pick one out correctly when named.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  59. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    One time I saw Elijah Cummings in the Rayburn cafeteria and I thought he was one of the Four Tops.’

    Yeah, but which one?

  60. El Dato says:
    @Henry's Cat

    Journalist Angela Saini and disability rights activist Adam Pearson explore the shocking origins and legacy of eugenics in Britain and its continued influence today.

    The Beauty and the Beast!

    Little do they know in their retconning Woke-A-Bubble that this is not the End of Eugenics. It is not even the Beginning of the End. It’s just the End of the Beginning!

    But it’s good that Britplebs are being educated hard that they are at the root of Nazi Death Camps. Hogging “Eugenics Ground Zero” so to say. The only way to redemption would probably be to have additional diversity and dysgenics. That might also make the ominous trailer music go away.

    OT News from Bongland:

    Forced to use transgender pronouns: Doctor speaks out after tribunal rules Bible ‘incompatible with human dignity’

    A British doctor has warned that a dangerous precedent has been set after a tribunal ruled that he was rightfully terminated for refusing to use transgender pronouns, and that his Christian values clash with those of UK society.

    Dr. David Mackereth was fired from his job at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) after telling his manager that in a hypothetical scenario, he would never “call any 6-foot tall bearded man madam.”

    The case was brought before a Birmingham employment tribunal, which said in its ruling that the government department had every right to sack Mackereth, and that the doctor’s biblical beliefs have no place in British society.

    I sure hope RT is enhancing this story. Better convert to Islam in any case.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  61. El Dato says:
    @interesting

    From

    Research for Practice: Troubling Trends in Machine-Learning Scholarship

    https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=3336127.3316774
    Communications of the ACM
    Volume 62 Issue 6, June 2019
    Pages 45-53

    Suitcase words. Finally, ML [Machine Learning] papers tend to overuse suitcase words. Coined by Marvin Minsky in the 2007 book The Emotion Machine, suitcase words pack together a variety of meanings. Minsky described mental processes such as consciousness, thinking, attention, emotion, and feeling that may not share “a single cause or origin.” Many terms in ML fall into this category. For example, I (Lipton) noted in a 2016 paper that interpretability holds no universally agreed-upon meaning and often references disjoint methods and desiderata. As a consequence, even papers that appear to be in dialogue with each other may have different concepts in mind.

    As another example, generalization has both a specific technical meaning (generalizing from training to testing) and a more colloquial meaning that is closer to the notion of transfer (generalizing from one population to another) or of external validity (generalizing from an experimental setting to the real world). Conflating these notions leads to overestimating the capabilities of current systems.

    Suggestive definitions and overloaded terminology can contribute to the creation of new suitcase words. In the fairness literature, where legal, philosophical, and statistical language are often overloaded, terms such as bias become suitcase words that must be subsequently unpacked. In common speech and as aspirational terms, suitcase words can serve a useful purpose. Sometimes a suitcase word might reflect an overarching aspiration that unites the various meanings. For example, artificial intelligence might be well suited as an aspirational name to organize an academic department. On the other hand, using suitcase words in technical arguments can lead to confusion.

    For example, in his 2017 book, Superintelligence, Nick Bostrom wrote an equation (Box 4) involving the terms intelligence and optimization power, implicitly assuming these suitcase words can be quantified with a one-dimensional scalar.

  62. So this black person is saying the police should hire more blacks the better to kill blacks.

    The real motives of these people sometimes seep out.

  63. @interesting

    Artificial intelligence will read, listen to, and watch everything out there–and come to the reasonable conclusion that people are incredibly stupid and cannot be trusted to speak the truth.

    The AI’s next move is obvious.

  64. SND says:

    Somehow, all this reminds me of Hegel’s quip about Shelling’s philosophy: “The night in which all cows are black.”

  65. Arclight says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    It falls under the idea that all the Democrats have to do to win swing voters is not be crazy, which is apparently too much to ask for the party these days. I miss the Clinton Era Dems who were concerned with crime and deficits.

  66. anon[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey

    She will send US Marshals to arrest Trump admin official

    How will she do that?

    https://infogalactic.com/info/United_States_Marshals_Service

  67. eah says:
    @eah

  68. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I literally LOL’d when I saw this.

    I wonder if this could be turned into a meme about the MSM accusing everyone else of being “fake news” when of course it’s really them. Something like that.

  69. El Dato says:
    @Whiskey

    What happened to “separation of powers”?

    True, it’s no longer as steady as before, but still.

  70. @Oleaginous Outrager

    Which is why I appreciate Steve delivering this story without the usually obligatory picture of Tlaib with her mouth open (apparently nobody’s ever gotten a shot of her when her falafel hole isn’t flapping)

    I knew something was missing. But here’s one of Tlaib with her “falafel hole” pressed firmly shut. Even still, she makes you understand why burkas are not always a bad thing.

  71. @The Alarmist

    They’d be more distinguishable if one of them gave up drinking.

  72. @Laurence Whelk

    WhyPipo in Detroit: get out.

    We have! There are a couple little pockets of crackers left (cf St Clair Shores, Livonia, etc) but these are inner ring suburbs rather than actual Detriot neighborhoods. Hamtramck was mostly white (polack), but is now much closer to Dearbornistan demographically. Parts of Wayne County remain white (ie Northville or Wayne), but Detriot itself? Oh hell no … just a few retarded hipsters who bought condos in the city thinking Dan Gilbert, Pete Karmanos, the Fords, Roger Penske, and the Illitches would successfully “revitalize” downtown.

    I have no idea where the mythical “14%” of Detriot honkies live. I suspect they’re counting Jihadi-Americans. What’s especially troubling however is Oakland County, which just a few decades ago was the second richest in America and today, thanks to negroes fleeing worse negroes, doesn’t appear in the top 25:

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/detroit-population/

  73. After the tour, when a reporter asked whether she meant white people weren’t qualified to work in the crime center, Tlaib said: “No, I think there has actually been studies out that it’s hard for — African Americans would identify African Americans, or Latinos, same thing.”

    Why did the questioner not prompt Tlaib for an intelligible response in some recognisable form of English (or even Spanish, or Turkish, or Swahili…)?

    Honestly: Do any of you reading that have the foggiest idea what the Hell it ostensibly means? I’m serious; I’m not just niggling about grammar: her statement consista of English words, but only about the way this statement does:

    “Some kangaroos…I mean a study once determined they could – and koalas with pizza, same thing.”

    Or whatever other nonsense one cares to substitute.

    This creature is in the federal legislature of the F.U.S.A. I realise we don’t all speak conversationally in perfect English. I don’t, myself. But if I were interviewing someone to work part-time at a McDonald’s, or to mow my lawn, and she spoke like this creature does, I would not hire her. This kind of speech reveals a great deal about not only the speaker’s ability to communicate verbally, but, indeed, it suggests an abysmally low intelligence quotient, bordering upon, if not conclusively indicative of, idiocy.

  74. anon[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @interesting

    Harper’s has already come out and said that Artificial Intelligence will be racist because it’s going to be programmed by white guys who will unwittingly write their own biases into the code.

    Proving that journolists don’t know anything about AI. Those things are self-training. The only control over them is the data set used for training; use real world crime data and the results must be raciss, because real world crime data is raciss.

  75. MBlanc46 says:
    @AnotherDad

    One small emendation, AD: Things can work well when…. Homogeneity is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for social functioning.

  76. MBlanc46 says:
    @interesting

    I’m sure that Harper’s know whereof they speak.

  77. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Ash Williams

    Since we can’t all get along, can’t we just agree to Balkanize peacefully?

    Why exactly would the people who currently control the whole country want to give up that power?

    You think that the people who benefit enormously from the current system – big business, senior bureaucrats, the military-industrial complex, the media monopolies, the tech monopolies – are just going to give up the power and the influence and the money that the current system gives them?

    The only thing that would prevent this is the nukes. Split them up according to population?

    Yeah I can definitely see American generals being happy to give up nukes to unstable hostile mini-states.

    The other problem that you’re ignoring is – how many ordinary people are actually going to support Balkanisation?

    This is fantasy world stuff.

  78. dfordoom says: • Website
    @El Dato

    and that his Christian values clash with those of UK society.

    Which they do. Christian values are entirely incompatible with the values of modern western society. It’s just that Christians don’t want to believe that it’s so.

    Personally I prefer Christian values to the depraved values of modern western society.

    Of course the bigger problem is that very few Christians these days have any interest in defending Christian values.

  79. @eah

    Somewhat axiomatic” is jarring to non-Yank ears, even though its Greek root is an expression of opinion (ἀξίωμα: “what is considered fitting”, from ἄξιος “the same weight as”).

    ἀξίωμα also means “pre-requisite“, which is the similar sense to which it’s used technically in mathematics – a thing that no longer needs proof.

    A thing cannot be ‘somewhat self-evident’. A thing is self-evident or it requires explanation.

    Somewhat axiomatic” is not as awful as “different than“, but it’s pretty close.

  80. @Kronos

    I can’t see the tags, but they must be there.

    The post-Habsburg Austrian/Austro-Hungarian Empire lasted a little over a century; from the Ausgliech to the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was a shorter timespan that from the death of Lenin to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

  81. Charon says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Airport worker fired for slipping ‘you ugly’ note to traveler

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airport-worker-fired-slipping-you-ugly-note-traveler-n1043561

    Another one of those “if only the races were reversed, this would be a federal case!”

  82. I agree with this plan. The dearth of qualified black analysts will doom this Big Brother police state project.

  83. Making life easier in Congress, Elijah Cummings dies at 68. Now John Lewis doesn’t have to worry about being misidentified by his colleagues.

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