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In response to a reader’s question about differences in average cognitive test scores between blacks and whites, commenter Maven points us toward the PIAAC test of adults. PIAAC is done by the OECD who also do the famous international PISA test of 15-year-olds.

PIAAC in 2017 found that men average very slightly better than females overall in the various ethnicities, with men having an advantage in math, while literacy results are mixed. The standard deviation within each race/sex/subject group is somewhere around 50 points, so the differences between the sexes are small.

Total Male Female M-F
Race/ethnicity Subject Average Average Average
Hispanic Both 238 240 236 4.0
White Both 273 276 271 5.0
Black Both 226 227 226 1.5
Other race Both 261 264 259 5.0
Hispanic Math 226 230 222 8.0
White Math 267 271 262 9.0
Black Math 214 217 210 7.0
Other race Math 257 263 251 12.0
Hispanic Literacy 249 249 249 0.0
White Literacy 280 280 279 1.0
Black Literacy 239 237 241 -4.0
Other race Literacy 265 264 266 -2.0

So men of each race average a little bit higher than their womenfolk on this fairly recent test, but the male-female gap is smaller for blacks than for others.

Another commenter points me toward a December 7, 2005 blog post I wrote which came out with slightly different results:

Do black women have higher IQs than black men?

Thomas Sowell has been arguing for a number of years that black women score higher on IQ tests than black men…

So, to test this, I asked Charles Murray to take a look at the most recent renorming of the U.S. military’s IQ test that all applicants for enlistment must take, the Armed Forces Qualification Test or AFQT, and he graciously obliged, sending me some new and important data that I have not seen reported before. …

As Murray noted in his recent Commentary article (see Footnote 41), the previous renorming of the AFQT in 1980 now appears to have underestimated average black IQ, reporting an improbably large 18.6 point gap between the races, due to low-scoring blacks, especially black males, being more inclined to give up partway through the daunting 105 page pencil-and-paper test and not even trying to answer the remainder of the questions. To make up a fictitious illustration, a black guy who could have scored 75 if he’d toughed it out and tried to answer all the questions might get depressed by looking at so many questions he couldn’t answer and give up on p. 57 and get a 65 instead.

To get around this, in the 1997 renorming of the AFQT, the test was given on a computer and if you missed a lot of the early questions, the computer would feed you easier questions to keep you from giving up. This also helps make the test more discerning by fine-tuning the questions more appropriate for your general level of intelligence.

This points out two sides to the old question of how much does the type of IQ test matter. In some ways, it doesn’t matter that much. There’s an old saying among psychometricians that “Life is an IQ test.” La Griffe du Lion has shown that the roughly one standard deviation difference in IQ between blacks and whites shows up over and over again in the real world — for example, in Florida in the famous Presidential balloting in 2000, blacks tended to botch up their ballots (e.g., by voting for two different candidates for President) and thus make them uncountable at a rate about a standard deviation higher than whites did, costing poor Al Gore the White House.

On the other hand, when attempting to make subtle comparisons such as between the sexes or to see if the racial gap is closing over time, then the fine points of the different tests matter. I only have one test to report here, but it’s a big one, the AFQT, which the U.S. military has invested millions of dollars in validating over the last half century.

So, here is the data from the U.S. military’s 1997 renorming of the AFQT on computers, as provided to me by Charles Murray, “using the 1997 cohort AFQT converted to an IQ metric, and employing population weights to reach nationally representative results.” The renorming was done on the 1997 National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, a long term tracking study of 8,984 people aged 12-17, I believe. “White” means “non-Hispanic white.”

AFQT IQ Black White Diff.
Male 88.4 102.7 14.3
Female 90.8 103.6 12.8
Diff (2.4) (0.8)
St. Dev.
Male 13.30 14.75
Female 13.58 13.30

So, at least on the AFQT, Sowell appears to be right: black women score 2.4 points higher than black men, while white women score only 0.8 points higher that white men.

So, we still can’t say for sure.

 
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  1. This is more boring than golf course architecture.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @jon

    "boring"

    Steve's IQ stuff is eye-glazing. I'm indifferent to a lot of Steve's interests. But he's funny and is a very fine writer. I have to work at not stealing his style.

    Replies: @Jon

    , @Anonymous
    @jon

    I'm a woman who loves both the golf course architecture stuff and the IQ stuff. I love anything related to math, and that includes the Covid stuff for the math ALONE. Maybe the most interesting stuff would be analyzing the IQs of male and female readers of isteve, though I'm aware that the female sample is pretty small. But who cares? It would be merely for internal reference.

    As to the black/white gap. The biggest problems is that with IQs as low as low SES blacks, combined with the whoppingly inappropriate self confidence, they can't conceptualize what smart even means. And I'm not kidding or being sarcastic. The dumbest literally think they're as smart as humanly possible.

    Thus, the biggest problem is not what we perceive their IQs to be, but how they perceive themselves. We can perceive their stupidity, but they can't perceive our brains. I don't think this is a linear relationship, either. I can easily perceive that the over 160 folks are a lot smarter than I am, with an age peak of 138, and I can see how. (They have a RAM/prefrontal cortex filled with stuff, and can spew it non-stop conversationally, for one thing. I've endured such horrors as profs in International Taxation spewing like that for an hour and a half straight. If you think Steve is boring, try listening to that!!!).

  2. Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident. Those pesky blacks with their pesky chads. Check. Of course that was the reason. Couldn’t have been anything else.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @obwandiyag

    Someone didn't learn about the weirdness of Florida's laws about presidential ballot access, did they?

    , @ScarletNumber
    @obwandiyag

    I'm not sure what you are driving at, but Pat Buchanan himself has admitted that he shouldn't have gotten as many votes in Florida as were officially recorded for him.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Chris Mallory
    @obwandiyag


    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident.
     
    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    , @Bill Jones
    @obwandiyag

    You must admit that karma demands that his loss be due to his target market being too thick to get it right.

    How's his global warming treating you?

  3. How much of the difference in outcomes is due to differences in what the IQ tests measure and how much is due to “systemic racism” (presumably everything else)? What is the average per capita income of black people with scores of 85 and what is the average per capita income of white people with scores of 85? Same comparisons with scores of 100, 115, 130. I am surely not the first person to imagine such comparisons but I have not seen reports that they have been done. This will be a crude inquiry, and will be subject to various objections, some circular (e.g., attributing the scores themselves to “systemic racism”) but it will still tell us more than what we know now.

  4. Slightly OT, the black student who caused a national incident by eating lunch in an off-limits dorm is originally from Mali. She ended up destroying the jobs and reputations of 2 working-class whites. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/us/smith-college-race.html

  5. As a data point re converting AFQT scores to Stanford-Binet and Wechsler IQ scores, this memo and short attachment to a RAND researcher from the office of the Secretary of Defense:

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/MG265/images/webG1471.pdf

  6. Could it be that the AFQT population was skewed by a slightly greater percentage of brighter women than men taking it because they were more assured of getting the job training and benefits part of military service without having to risk going into combat, whereas a greater percentage of brighter men didn’t like taking that chance and pursued other options? Or that military service appealed to men who were more a bit more brawny or brave than bright? Seems like combat risk/appeal is a factor when comparing outcomes for the sexes.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Lockean Proviso

    The two National Longitudinal Studies of Youth are intended to be nationally representative samples (with oversamples of blacks and Latinos). The military uses them to recalibrate the AFQT passing scores based on the national population, not on who applies to the military.

    , @JohnPlywood
    @Lockean Proviso

    Your way of thinking is wrong. It's the high IQ men who are the bravest and brawniest of them all, and they're the ones on the front line blasting people. The dumbos are cowards who like to hide behind things, because they are underconfident in their ability to step out in to the open and participate in modern, high speed, unpredictable fighting conditions.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16297-intelligent-soldiers-most-likely-to-die-in-battle/


    Analysing their data by rank offers some insight. Low-ranking soldiers accounted for three-fifths of all deaths, and their IQs measured by their childhood tests averaged 95.3. Officers and non-commissioned officers made up for about 7% and 20% of war deaths respectively. Officers scored 121.9, bringing up the average IQ for those who died. Non-commissioned officers scored an average of 106.7.

    “We also wondered whether there was an overall small tendency for more intelligent soldiers to want to do the job well, perhaps meaning they ended up in more threatening situations,” Deary says.

    Phil Batterham, an epidemiologist at Australian National University in Canberra, wonders what aspects of intelligence made soldiers more likely to die in the war. “One could hypothesise that the association between greater intelligence and higher war-related mortality might be driven by the more crystallised verbal abilities, leading to greater leadership roles,” as opposed to other forms of intelligence, he says.
     

    , @Bill Jones
    @Lockean Proviso

    Agree.
    Was there any self selection in the AFQT test or where they randomly selected from the population at large ?
    (and by "at large" we mean also those who aren't)

  7. @Lockean Proviso
    Could it be that the AFQT population was skewed by a slightly greater percentage of brighter women than men taking it because they were more assured of getting the job training and benefits part of military service without having to risk going into combat, whereas a greater percentage of brighter men didn't like taking that chance and pursued other options? Or that military service appealed to men who were more a bit more brawny or brave than bright? Seems like combat risk/appeal is a factor when comparing outcomes for the sexes.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JohnPlywood, @Bill Jones

    The two National Longitudinal Studies of Youth are intended to be nationally representative samples (with oversamples of blacks and Latinos). The military uses them to recalibrate the AFQT passing scores based on the national population, not on who applies to the military.

  8. Anon[353] • Disclaimer says:

    Re the military test: The samples cannot be comparable. On the one hand, many black men are screened out before the test for their criminal records, which would raise the average men’s score. On the other hand, what type of woman wants to join the military? This is a classic case of sexual dimorphism in preferences. If the female sample (probably at least an order of magnitude smaller than the male) is mostly black daddy’s girl daughters of vets, then you’d think they’d be smarter than average. The dads had to be smarter than average, since the military filters out the bottom half of blacks by IQ (81, 85, or 93, depending on the service and other factors).

    Re the PIACC: These kind of tests are different than IQ tests because the verbal is usually 50 percent, while a normal IQ test has sections and subtests beyond verbal and math, like spatial, puzzles, reaction time, and direct memory tests. In other words, a lot of stuff that men outperform women on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, the NLSY samples, both 1979 ("The Bell Curve") and 1997, were carefully recruited to be nationally representative. They are not just people who try to enlist in the military. They are given the AFQT because the Pentagon wants to know how the national population would do its enlistment exam.

    Replies: @Anon

  9. @Anon
    Re the military test: The samples cannot be comparable. On the one hand, many black men are screened out before the test for their criminal records, which would raise the average men's score. On the other hand, what type of woman wants to join the military? This is a classic case of sexual dimorphism in preferences. If the female sample (probably at least an order of magnitude smaller than the male) is mostly black daddy's girl daughters of vets, then you'd think they'd be smarter than average. The dads had to be smarter than average, since the military filters out the bottom half of blacks by IQ (81, 85, or 93, depending on the service and other factors).

    Re the PIACC: These kind of tests are different than IQ tests because the verbal is usually 50 percent, while a normal IQ test has sections and subtests beyond verbal and math, like spatial, puzzles, reaction time, and direct memory tests. In other words, a lot of stuff that men outperform women on.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    No, the NLSY samples, both 1979 (“The Bell Curve”) and 1997, were carefully recruited to be nationally representative. They are not just people who try to enlist in the military. They are given the AFQT because the Pentagon wants to know how the national population would do its enlistment exam.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Ah, I was wondering why Charles Murray was an intermediary. So it's not the full test, but rather the mini version in the NLSY. That makes sense, since another doubt I had was how well the woman preformed on the "car mechanics" section, or whatever equivalent the military test was using.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  10. “What kind of black joins the military?” might be influenced by the depictions in media. The crucial sonar operator or other technical guy or gal in a movie is often a black. (Jonesy in The Hunt for Red October paved the way.) Just as most blacks playing high school basketball think they will be in the NBA, maybe most of the blacks joining the military think they will be Jonesy. Probably recruiters encourage thinking of this nature. So it could be that many blacks who join might be expecting not a brawny job, but rather, quite the opposite.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @SafeNow

    Blacks who enlist tend to be more bourgeois than average. Blacks looking for a career in the Army typically want to go into a bureaucratic slot such as logistics rather than combat arms, and then have a second career working for the government in a similar job, then collect two pensions. It's a smart plan for life.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Buzz Mohawk, @Abolish_public_education

  11. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident. Those pesky blacks with their pesky chads. Check. Of course that was the reason. Couldn't have been anything else.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ScarletNumber, @Chris Mallory, @Bill Jones

    Someone didn’t learn about the weirdness of Florida’s laws about presidential ballot access, did they?

  12. Anon[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    No, the NLSY samples, both 1979 ("The Bell Curve") and 1997, were carefully recruited to be nationally representative. They are not just people who try to enlist in the military. They are given the AFQT because the Pentagon wants to know how the national population would do its enlistment exam.

    Replies: @Anon

    Ah, I was wondering why Charles Murray was an intermediary. So it’s not the full test, but rather the mini version in the NLSY. That makes sense, since another doubt I had was how well the woman preformed on the “car mechanics” section, or whatever equivalent the military test was using.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    The military's ASVAB is a ten-section superset of the military's AFQT 4-section test. The AFQT is more g-loaded and is used in determining whether somebody is let into the military, while the former is used to determine what job you might be assigned to. E.g., you aced the ASVAB's subsection on car repair, so we'll put you to work repairing trucks.

  13. Anonymous[927] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you went through chemotherapy. Did you experience “chemo brain” at any point or have you noticed permanent effects from it?

    What do you think about the research coming out showing chemotherapy permanently affecting a person’s cognitive ability/IQ?

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030573721730155X

    Chemotherapy-induced cognitive impairments: White matter pathologies

    Abstract
    Whilst chemotherapeutic agents show promising results in the amelioration of cancerous tumors, patients often experience cognitive disturbances associated with chemotherapy long after treatment has ceased. Research has suggested that the structural integrity of white matter fibres in the brain are susceptible to the harmful effects of chemotherapy..

    .

    There’s a serious IQ loss in kids treated with chemo for leukemia.

    https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/126/3/346/34536/Chemotherapy-only-treatment-effects-on-long-term

    …Children treated for Acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL) without cranial radiation display significant IQ deficits of 6 to 8 points compared with healthy controls.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    A lot of people think my 1997 article, "Is Love Colorblind?," is my best.

    https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/color/articles/sailer.html

    I wrote it while finishing up six courses of chemo.

    The one article I've written in which I permanently won the debate was "Track and Battlefield"

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/track-and-battlefield-by-steve-sailer/

    I worked on the huge database underlying it while on chemo and wrote it in the months following.

    My brain felt fine but my body was tired for about 18 months after chemo. When I finally got my energy back, I was ball of fire intellectually in 1999.

  14. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Ah, I was wondering why Charles Murray was an intermediary. So it's not the full test, but rather the mini version in the NLSY. That makes sense, since another doubt I had was how well the woman preformed on the "car mechanics" section, or whatever equivalent the military test was using.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The military’s ASVAB is a ten-section superset of the military’s AFQT 4-section test. The AFQT is more g-loaded and is used in determining whether somebody is let into the military, while the former is used to determine what job you might be assigned to. E.g., you aced the ASVAB’s subsection on car repair, so we’ll put you to work repairing trucks.

  15. @SafeNow
    “What kind of black joins the military?” might be influenced by the depictions in media. The crucial sonar operator or other technical guy or gal in a movie is often a black. (Jonesy in The Hunt for Red October paved the way.) Just as most blacks playing high school basketball think they will be in the NBA, maybe most of the blacks joining the military think they will be Jonesy. Probably recruiters encourage thinking of this nature. So it could be that many blacks who join might be expecting not a brawny job, but rather, quite the opposite.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Blacks who enlist tend to be more bourgeois than average. Blacks looking for a career in the Army typically want to go into a bureaucratic slot such as logistics rather than combat arms, and then have a second career working for the government in a similar job, then collect two pensions. It’s a smart plan for life.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Steve Sailer

    That was my experience. White men joined the Army out of a sense of daring and to bust up the monotony of their post-high school lives. As a general rule, the white enlistees who became lifers were on the wimpy side, and they avoided combat arms MOSs like infantry and artillery right from the start.

    Blacks joined the Army to get a job, and those who could handle the regimentation of their lives (and weren't let go during or after their initial enlistment for disciplinary reasons) tended to make it a career. They disproportionately filled the ranks of the combat arms as young privates, but tended to rotate out to desk jobs, etc, after re-upping for the first or second time. That, of course, is in part because of the military's own personnel needs. An infantry platoon can get by with only one truly "senior" NCO.

    That's how I saw it in my day. Things may be different now, the other branches may always have been different, YMMV, etc., etc.

    P.S. Black female soldiers were much smarter than black males, and smarter than younger white infantrymen. Of course, they were a more highly curated sample of folks working in non-combat MOSs that required higher g, such as medic or clerk.

    P.P.S. Note that the military stops measuring IQ at 132. There's no need for genius among the enlisted ranks.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Steve Sailer

    A fellow RA in college was a black ROTC cadet. We didn't get along.

    He once asked me why I didn't like him: "Is it because I'm black?" I gave him the most honest, thoughtful answer I could: "I hope not."

    Now he is a diversity director at MIT. I am 100% sure he is still a dumb bastard.

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @Steve Sailer

    I am so sick and tired of lifetime tax leeches.

    It’s “smart” in the style of Willie Sutton.

  16. @Lockean Proviso
    Could it be that the AFQT population was skewed by a slightly greater percentage of brighter women than men taking it because they were more assured of getting the job training and benefits part of military service without having to risk going into combat, whereas a greater percentage of brighter men didn't like taking that chance and pursued other options? Or that military service appealed to men who were more a bit more brawny or brave than bright? Seems like combat risk/appeal is a factor when comparing outcomes for the sexes.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JohnPlywood, @Bill Jones

    Your way of thinking is wrong. It’s the high IQ men who are the bravest and brawniest of them all, and they’re the ones on the front line blasting people. The dumbos are cowards who like to hide behind things, because they are underconfident in their ability to step out in to the open and participate in modern, high speed, unpredictable fighting conditions.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16297-intelligent-soldiers-most-likely-to-die-in-battle/

    Analysing their data by rank offers some insight. Low-ranking soldiers accounted for three-fifths of all deaths, and their IQs measured by their childhood tests averaged 95.3. Officers and non-commissioned officers made up for about 7% and 20% of war deaths respectively. Officers scored 121.9, bringing up the average IQ for those who died. Non-commissioned officers scored an average of 106.7.

    “We also wondered whether there was an overall small tendency for more intelligent soldiers to want to do the job well, perhaps meaning they ended up in more threatening situations,” Deary says.

    Phil Batterham, an epidemiologist at Australian National University in Canberra, wonders what aspects of intelligence made soldiers more likely to die in the war. “One could hypothesise that the association between greater intelligence and higher war-related mortality might be driven by the more crystallised verbal abilities, leading to greater leadership roles,” as opposed to other forms of intelligence, he says.

  17. @Anonymous
    Steve, you went through chemotherapy. Did you experience “chemo brain” at any point or have you noticed permanent effects from it?

    What do you think about the research coming out showing chemotherapy permanently affecting a person’s cognitive ability/IQ?

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030573721730155X

    Chemotherapy-induced cognitive impairments: White matter pathologies

    Abstract
    Whilst chemotherapeutic agents show promising results in the amelioration of cancerous tumors, patients often experience cognitive disturbances associated with chemotherapy long after treatment has ceased. Research has suggested that the structural integrity of white matter fibres in the brain are susceptible to the harmful effects of chemotherapy..
     
    .

    There’s a serious IQ loss in kids treated with chemo for leukemia.

    https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/126/3/346/34536/Chemotherapy-only-treatment-effects-on-long-term

    ...Children treated for Acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL) without cranial radiation display significant IQ deficits of 6 to 8 points compared with healthy controls.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A lot of people think my 1997 article, “Is Love Colorblind?,” is my best.

    https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/color/articles/sailer.html

    I wrote it while finishing up six courses of chemo.

    The one article I’ve written in which I permanently won the debate was “Track and Battlefield”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/track-and-battlefield-by-steve-sailer/

    I worked on the huge database underlying it while on chemo and wrote it in the months following.

    My brain felt fine but my body was tired for about 18 months after chemo. When I finally got my energy back, I was ball of fire intellectually in 1999.

  18. Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?
     
    I noticed that, too. The tests are supposedly normed to a scale that makes the American white population average 100, by definition. Is it perhaps something to do with the Flynn effect? How do you norm the IQ scale if average scores are rising slowly over time.

    It's also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.

    It would also be interesting to see the black SD broken out separately, especially by gender. But they never do that for some reason.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    , @Anon
    @anonymous

    Because IQ tests are deliberately created and normed to make the average IQ 100. You cannot compare one IQ result to another unless you establish a norm. Yes, whites--plain old average whites--do have an IQ result that's higher than 100.

    Periodically I run into some dummy who insists that women and men have the same average IQ, so men can't be smarter than women. But when I try to explain the test is deliberately created and normed to give average men and average women the same IQ, and that it doesn't reflect real intelligence differences between the genders, they're usually baffled by what I'm talking about.

  19. Anecdotally, if you work with both and (attempt to) supervise them, you sense that black women are smarter than black men.

    In fact, it might be said that the whole black problem, whatever it is, is a problem with black men, young black men. If only those men could get things a little righter, their women would go along to get along. Instead, we have bunches of single, black mothers working as best they can in various jobs to pay their bills, and to feed their kids and buy them the latest smartphones and sneakers.

    Currently, they even have to put them on remote learning at home with computers and Wi-Fi. Admittedly, though, there are lots of charitable and government programs to pay for all of that for them.

    Seriously, managing black women in non-manual or light manual labor is better than trying it with their male counterparts. Some of us know that from experience. (There are some pretty sweet, black girls out there doing their best, and we should at least give them credit. Forgive this commenter while he sheds a tear and remembers…)

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Anecdotally, if you work with both and (attempt to) supervise them, you sense that black women are smarter than black men.
     
    I would say that black women make better employees and are smarter in the sense that in order to be a decent employee you have to give the bossman some form of outward respect, but that is more EQ than IQ. Andy Rooney once said regarding dogs that obedience is a poor measure of intelligence.
  20. @Steve Sailer
    @SafeNow

    Blacks who enlist tend to be more bourgeois than average. Blacks looking for a career in the Army typically want to go into a bureaucratic slot such as logistics rather than combat arms, and then have a second career working for the government in a similar job, then collect two pensions. It's a smart plan for life.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Buzz Mohawk, @Abolish_public_education

    That was my experience. White men joined the Army out of a sense of daring and to bust up the monotony of their post-high school lives. As a general rule, the white enlistees who became lifers were on the wimpy side, and they avoided combat arms MOSs like infantry and artillery right from the start.

    Blacks joined the Army to get a job, and those who could handle the regimentation of their lives (and weren’t let go during or after their initial enlistment for disciplinary reasons) tended to make it a career. They disproportionately filled the ranks of the combat arms as young privates, but tended to rotate out to desk jobs, etc, after re-upping for the first or second time. That, of course, is in part because of the military’s own personnel needs. An infantry platoon can get by with only one truly “senior” NCO.

    That’s how I saw it in my day. Things may be different now, the other branches may always have been different, YMMV, etc., etc.

    P.S. Black female soldiers were much smarter than black males, and smarter than younger white infantrymen. Of course, they were a more highly curated sample of folks working in non-combat MOSs that required higher g, such as medic or clerk.

    P.P.S. Note that the military stops measuring IQ at 132. There’s no need for genius among the enlisted ranks.

  21. All this reveals is the military is getting less intelligent males of each race to volunteer as compared to females.

    Which is a good thing.

  22. @Steve Sailer
    @SafeNow

    Blacks who enlist tend to be more bourgeois than average. Blacks looking for a career in the Army typically want to go into a bureaucratic slot such as logistics rather than combat arms, and then have a second career working for the government in a similar job, then collect two pensions. It's a smart plan for life.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Buzz Mohawk, @Abolish_public_education

    A fellow RA in college was a black ROTC cadet. We didn’t get along.

    He once asked me why I didn’t like him: “Is it because I’m black?” I gave him the most honest, thoughtful answer I could: “I hope not.”

    Now he is a diversity director at MIT. I am 100% sure he is still a dumb bastard.

  23. What’s “other race”? Do they lump Amerindians, Samoans, Chinese, Filipinos and Dot-Indians together in one single category?

  24. Are Black Women Smarter Than Black Men?

    Black b—-es or black m———ers:
    Who smarter? They say jelly gotta
    Be good with a name that’s like Smucker’s,
    So black women better and smarter;

    They names, like LaShundra and Jewleigh,
    Be weirder than those of male blacks.
    That mean black women smarter, but truly,
    The question is “How come you ax?”.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @the one they call Desanex

    Attention, Ladies

    If a man thinks he’s handsome, but ain’t,
    And against him you have the complaint
    His libido’s in need of restraint;
    He takes liberties you say he mayn’t ...

    He has Hep Cat’s disease—
    In the mirror he sees
    Handsome Victor Mature
    (But in caricature).
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShinyVigilantBorzoi-max-1mb.gif

  25. @anonymous
    Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Anon

    Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?

    I noticed that, too. The tests are supposedly normed to a scale that makes the American white population average 100, by definition. Is it perhaps something to do with the Flynn effect? How do you norm the IQ scale if average scores are rising slowly over time.

    It’s also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.

    It would also be interesting to see the black SD broken out separately, especially by gender. But they never do that for some reason.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.
     
    It's been done, but mentioning it will get your shit cancelled quicker than dissing a fake-woman's #SoBrave beat-down of a biological woman.

    The over-representation of men at all points in both tails of the IQ distribution, is taken to be 'problematic' - despite being more obvious than a bulldog's nutsack.

    More genuises, and more doofi; by the time you get to +3σ, you can confidently predict that the guy is practically autistic... because P(it's a guy = 0.95) [and P(pretty fucking autistic) ≅ 0.8].

    I'm perfectly comfortable with the notion that black women are the cognitive superiors of their menfolk: it makes biological sense in a society where pair-bonding is less important as an evolutionary selection mechanism.

    Where pair-bonding is more important (i.e., in places with challenging winters), the standard expectation is that evolution selects for
     • higher overall-smartness (greater challenges that are amenable to cognitive solutions);
     • higher variance in male cognitive abilities (more cognitive specialisation among men - niche warriors/risk-takers and niche trackers/planners);
     • greater neoteny, especially in females.

    People really should read "Erectus Walks Among Us", which Mr Unz has made available in PDF.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  26. Steve, you know enough statistics to realize that there is no statistically significant difference between black men and black women. The standard deviations are much larger than the differences between the means. Thus, a t-test would show no significance at 95% confidence. My guess is that the p-value would be somewhere around 0.4

    • Replies: @Shango
    @Guest007

    Holy crap, did explain those statistical concepts off the top of your head?

    Replies: @Guest007

  27. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident. Those pesky blacks with their pesky chads. Check. Of course that was the reason. Couldn't have been anything else.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ScarletNumber, @Chris Mallory, @Bill Jones

    I’m not sure what you are driving at, but Pat Buchanan himself has admitted that he shouldn’t have gotten as many votes in Florida as were officially recorded for him.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @ScarletNumber

    Yes, and he had a grudge against the Bush family.

  28. @Buzz Mohawk
    Anecdotally, if you work with both and (attempt to) supervise them, you sense that black women are smarter than black men.

    In fact, it might be said that the whole black problem, whatever it is, is a problem with black men, young black men. If only those men could get things a little righter, their women would go along to get along. Instead, we have bunches of single, black mothers working as best they can in various jobs to pay their bills, and to feed their kids and buy them the latest smartphones and sneakers.

    Currently, they even have to put them on remote learning at home with computers and Wi-Fi. Admittedly, though, there are lots of charitable and government programs to pay for all of that for them.

    Seriously, managing black women in non-manual or light manual labor is better than trying it with their male counterparts. Some of us know that from experience. (There are some pretty sweet, black girls out there doing their best, and we should at least give them credit. Forgive this commenter while he sheds a tear and remembers...)

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Anecdotally, if you work with both and (attempt to) supervise them, you sense that black women are smarter than black men.

    I would say that black women make better employees and are smarter in the sense that in order to be a decent employee you have to give the bossman some form of outward respect, but that is more EQ than IQ. Andy Rooney once said regarding dogs that obedience is a poor measure of intelligence.

  29. @jon
    This is more boring than golf course architecture.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    “boring”

    Steve’s IQ stuff is eye-glazing. I’m indifferent to a lot of Steve’s interests. But he’s funny and is a very fine writer. I have to work at not stealing his style.

    • Replies: @Jon
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I don't mind the IQ stuff as a general category, but who comes in last and who comes in second to last isn't holding my interest over multiple posts.

  30. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident. Those pesky blacks with their pesky chads. Check. Of course that was the reason. Couldn't have been anything else.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ScarletNumber, @Chris Mallory, @Bill Jones

    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident.

    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Chris Mallory


    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.
     
    Like Trump last year and Hillary in 2016 the 2000 election was so close that almost anything the losing candidate could have done to simply not piss people off--Trump's asshole debate performance, Hillary's "deplorable", etc.--would have been enough.

    That said, more people went to the polls in Florida in 2000 intending to vote for Gore. But--"life is an IQ test" and Democrats are on average dumber less capable people--Bush got more actual valid votes.

    I say this as someone who at the time was deeply invested in Bush seeing off the Democrats attempt to whine and wheedle and lawyer--their typical toxic modus operandi--an election theft. Bush turned out to--i shouldn't have been surprised--be a useless good-thought-thinking boob (not the good kind) and a traitor to America.

    BTW, i have a friend whose work gave him interactions with the Clintons, Gores and Bushes. He's a very straight shooter and says the Gores are very unpleasant people.

    Whether our history would have been any better the other way around? Maybe. But doubtful.

    Our problem is minoritarianism plain and simple. A malevolent, cancerous ideology of civilizational destruction. Until white people are willing to rip it out root and branch or separate ... doubt the exact establishment lackeys in power matter that much.
    , @J.Ross
    @Chris Mallory

    Thanks. No one now remembers this but, until the Democratic Party decided that Ralph Nader has magic powers, the political story was about how Al Gore's policy proposals were not meaningfully different from those of his opponent. Probably the most unambiguously unpopular Clinton plank (notably under-discussed in official media) was the massive unforced error campaign against rural dissidents, which Gore was apparently stupid enough to want to double down on.

  31. @ScarletNumber
    @obwandiyag

    I'm not sure what you are driving at, but Pat Buchanan himself has admitted that he shouldn't have gotten as many votes in Florida as were officially recorded for him.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Yes, and he had a grudge against the Bush family.

  32. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:

    I have often read that the range of IQ for men is larger than that for women, as such, although the average IQ of women tend to be higher than that of men, men dominate the highest and the lowest band of IQs.

    I’ve also heard a theory from Rushton that blacks have higher testosterone than all other ethnic groups, and higher testosterone in men is correlated with lower IQ, while in women it is correlated with higher IQ. It kinda makes sense in that high testosterone could be the contributor to blacks reaching puberty earlier than other groups, to black men having lower impulse control and higher propensity for violence. Black boys have a harder time to sitting still to learn than children of all other groups.

    Among whites, Italian men are thought to have the highest testosterone, and “guidos” are often derided as himbos. Meanwhile, Jewish men have lower testosterone than whites which is why so many are gay and/or so damn whiney.

    But it doesn’t explain the few butch lesbians I know of who are quite dim. Maybe testosterone is just bad for IQ overall, be it in men or women. But then many girly girls are also quite dim(can’t do math), as are many gay men, so who knows.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anon

    The smartest women I know don't seem to have higher testosterone, but do have higher androgen levels. I think hormones are more complicated that people think. Whereas the smartest men I know do seem to have higher testosterone. It makes them talk your ear off.

  33. Anon[628] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Anon

    Because IQ tests are deliberately created and normed to make the average IQ 100. You cannot compare one IQ result to another unless you establish a norm. Yes, whites–plain old average whites–do have an IQ result that’s higher than 100.

    Periodically I run into some dummy who insists that women and men have the same average IQ, so men can’t be smarter than women. But when I try to explain the test is deliberately created and normed to give average men and average women the same IQ, and that it doesn’t reflect real intelligence differences between the genders, they’re usually baffled by what I’m talking about.

  34. @anon
    I have often read that the range of IQ for men is larger than that for women, as such, although the average IQ of women tend to be higher than that of men, men dominate the highest and the lowest band of IQs.

    I've also heard a theory from Rushton that blacks have higher testosterone than all other ethnic groups, and higher testosterone in men is correlated with lower IQ, while in women it is correlated with higher IQ. It kinda makes sense in that high testosterone could be the contributor to blacks reaching puberty earlier than other groups, to black men having lower impulse control and higher propensity for violence. Black boys have a harder time to sitting still to learn than children of all other groups.

    Among whites, Italian men are thought to have the highest testosterone, and "guidos" are often derided as himbos. Meanwhile, Jewish men have lower testosterone than whites which is why so many are gay and/or so damn whiney.

    But it doesn't explain the few butch lesbians I know of who are quite dim. Maybe testosterone is just bad for IQ overall, be it in men or women. But then many girly girls are also quite dim(can't do math), as are many gay men, so who knows.

    Replies: @Anon

    The smartest women I know don’t seem to have higher testosterone, but do have higher androgen levels. I think hormones are more complicated that people think. Whereas the smartest men I know do seem to have higher testosterone. It makes them talk your ear off.

  35. So, here is the data from the U.S. military’s 1997 renorming of the AFQT on computers, as provided to me by Charles Murray, “using the 1997 cohort AFQT converted to an IQ metric, and employing population weights to reach nationally representative results.” The renorming was done on the 1997 National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, a long term tracking study of 8,984 people aged 12-17,

    Might i suggest that the difference between the sex skew on PIAAC and the AFQT has something to do with the word i’ve subtly highlighted.

    Boys and girls are very similar at young ages, with girls having just a slight edge. But entering puberty girls develop much more rapidly. At 15 or so–at least with American levels of nutrition–most girls are pretty much baked–physically mature. You can throw some appropriate clothing on a lot, perhaps most 16 year old girls and they would not look out of place at a dinner party, a nightclub, a college graduation, heck as a bride at a wedding … as long as they don’t open their mouth.

    This is simply not true for boys. A 15 year old boy looks like … a boy. Usually a big boy, nearing adult height, but a boy. There is still work–physical development include wiring–to do.

    Adult women are basically walking around with their 16 year old HS brains … larded up with lots of additional facts, skills and life experiences. While adult men are walking around with their 19 year old college sophomore brains … larded up with lots of additional facts, skills and life experiences (and eventually less testosterone).

  36. african women are the least intelligent humans, unless we start talking about aborigines and bushmen. there’s never been a really smart one, ever. whereas there’s a few african men who are pretty smart, who can do STEM work at the PHD level. Neil deGrasse Tyson for instance is actually NOT smart enough to be a scientist or do any science work and publish. he can understand what the scientists say, but not do it himself. so the most well known smart guy in America is still not smart enough to even be an average, anonymous STEM scientist. whereas Clifford Johnson is.

    so those are the practical answers that matter. not who is slightly worse at high school algebra, a trivial and irrelevant question to important country building and technology development questions. yet that is the question at hand. who is slightly worse at high school algebra is the specific question here. the NFL coach wants to go the local high school and measure how ‘fast’ can the fat kids run, how ‘high’ can the clumsy kids jump.

    the answer is pretty obvious. african men are slightly smarter person for person, because they have bigger brains. just like for every group of humans around the world. but the difference between the men and the women is the smallest here among all human groups. that’s what ALL the actual intelligence tests say. i don’t trust any test which doesn’t say that, and i would accuse of it academic legerdemain and not being g loaded enough.

  37. “roughly one standard deviation difference in IQ between blacks and whites shows up over and over again in the real world”

    this doesn’t show up anywhere, except maybe in the US. where it’s more like 17 points, not 15. and only like that because most of them are mulattos. the difference between the europeans and the africans in South Africa is really big. it’s not 15 points. one group can build a modern technological society out of nothing. the other cannot even operate coal power plants that are already built and functioning. which every non-african country in the world can do.

    it’s time to end this totally bullshit tautology about ‘blacks ONLY being 15 points less capable”. if they actually were, then the bad faith actor leftists, cultural warriors, and academics might have a point. africans should be able to have societies more like Mexico than Nigeria, but ‘white racism’ prevents this. however, they don’t, because the difference IS NOT 15 POINTS.

    when i crunched the recent SAT numbers, africans were about 18 points lower than europeans. SAT data is confounded up front, because these are the teenagers took the test, not the general population. but the number of test takers has increased a lot over the last 20 to 30 years. and even these SAT results largely comport with other data from roughly translated intelligence tests. all the trends were in the same direction and the degree of difference was about the same as well. SAT data picked up exactly on african boys being slightly smarter than african girls, but only by less than 2 wechsler points equivalent, the smallest difference among human groups. and european boys being smarter than european girls by over 4 points, the largest difference between groups.

  38. @Chris Mallory
    @obwandiyag


    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident.
     
    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.

    Like Trump last year and Hillary in 2016 the 2000 election was so close that almost anything the losing candidate could have done to simply not piss people off–Trump’s asshole debate performance, Hillary’s “deplorable”, etc.–would have been enough.

    That said, more people went to the polls in Florida in 2000 intending to vote for Gore. But–“life is an IQ test” and Democrats are on average dumber less capable people–Bush got more actual valid votes.

    I say this as someone who at the time was deeply invested in Bush seeing off the Democrats attempt to whine and wheedle and lawyer–their typical toxic modus operandi–an election theft. Bush turned out to–i shouldn’t have been surprised–be a useless good-thought-thinking boob (not the good kind) and a traitor to America.

    BTW, i have a friend whose work gave him interactions with the Clintons, Gores and Bushes. He’s a very straight shooter and says the Gores are very unpleasant people.

    Whether our history would have been any better the other way around? Maybe. But doubtful.

    Our problem is minoritarianism plain and simple. A malevolent, cancerous ideology of civilizational destruction. Until white people are willing to rip it out root and branch or separate … doubt the exact establishment lackeys in power matter that much.

  39. @the one they call Desanex
    Are Black Women Smarter Than Black Men?


    Black b----es or black m---------ers:
    Who smarter? They say jelly gotta
    Be good with a name that’s like Smucker’s,
    So black women better and smarter;

    They names, like LaShundra and Jewleigh,
    Be weirder than those of male blacks.
    That mean black women smarter, but truly,
    The question is “How come you ax?”.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    Attention, Ladies

    If a man thinks he’s handsome, but ain’t,
    And against him you have the complaint
    His libido’s in need of restraint;
    He takes liberties you say he mayn’t …

    He has Hep Cat’s disease—
    In the mirror he sees
    Handsome Victor Mature
    (But in caricature).

  40. @Hypnotoad666
    @anonymous


    Why is non-Hispanic white IQ in the US in the 102-103 range rather than 100?
     
    I noticed that, too. The tests are supposedly normed to a scale that makes the American white population average 100, by definition. Is it perhaps something to do with the Flynn effect? How do you norm the IQ scale if average scores are rising slowly over time.

    It's also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.

    It would also be interesting to see the black SD broken out separately, especially by gender. But they never do that for some reason.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    It’s also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.

    It’s been done, but mentioning it will get your shit cancelled quicker than dissing a fake-woman’s #SoBrave beat-down of a biological woman.

    The over-representation of men at all points in both tails of the IQ distribution, is taken to be ‘problematic’ – despite being more obvious than a bulldog’s nutsack.

    More genuises, and more doofi; by the time you get to +3σ, you can confidently predict that the guy is practically autistic… because P(it’s a guy = 0.95) [and P(pretty fucking autistic) ≅ 0.8].

    I’m perfectly comfortable with the notion that black women are the cognitive superiors of their menfolk: it makes biological sense in a society where pair-bonding is less important as an evolutionary selection mechanism.

    Where pair-bonding is more important (i.e., in places with challenging winters), the standard expectation is that evolution selects for
     • higher overall-smartness (greater challenges that are amenable to cognitive solutions);
     • higher variance in male cognitive abilities (more cognitive specialisation among men – niche warriors/risk-takers and niche trackers/planners);
     • greater neoteny, especially in females.

    People really should read “Erectus Walks Among Us“, which Mr Unz has made available in PDF.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Kratoklastes

    Agree with this Kratoklastes. And thanks for the "Erectus Walks Among Us" tip.

    I'll toss in that among the traits that high latitude/winter selects is conscientiousness. And that's a big one that looms large in black/white relations. (Or really black/anyone--just black ability to do "civilization".)

    Another is cooperation. The i'll help with your harvest, you help with mine vibe that white gentiles possess. (Some of the wilder whites, from more herding, less farming areas definitely possess it less.) Blacks are not particularly cooperative and that also generates "issues".

  41. @Guest007
    Steve, you know enough statistics to realize that there is no statistically significant difference between black men and black women. The standard deviations are much larger than the differences between the means. Thus, a t-test would show no significance at 95% confidence. My guess is that the p-value would be somewhere around 0.4

    Replies: @Shango

    Holy crap, did explain those statistical concepts off the top of your head?

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Shango

    Is anyone going to argue that a when the differences in the mean is 1 point when the S.D. is 50 that the two means are statistically significant? I might have over-estiamted the p-value on second through. The change of getting those results by chance is probably greater than 50%.

    Also, if there were more comparisons between men and women, one could try to do a non-parametric tests such as a signs test to show that the difference is small but always seems to go in the same direction.

    Also, if one is really interest in statistics then one would be asking Steve to do more residual plots instead of plotting three more more curves and leaving it to the reader to mentally notice the residuals.

  42. @SunBakedSuburb
    @jon

    "boring"

    Steve's IQ stuff is eye-glazing. I'm indifferent to a lot of Steve's interests. But he's funny and is a very fine writer. I have to work at not stealing his style.

    Replies: @Jon

    I don’t mind the IQ stuff as a general category, but who comes in last and who comes in second to last isn’t holding my interest over multiple posts.

  43. @obwandiyag
    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident. Those pesky blacks with their pesky chads. Check. Of course that was the reason. Couldn't have been anything else.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @ScarletNumber, @Chris Mallory, @Bill Jones

    You must admit that karma demands that his loss be due to his target market being too thick to get it right.

    How’s his global warming treating you?

  44. @Lockean Proviso
    Could it be that the AFQT population was skewed by a slightly greater percentage of brighter women than men taking it because they were more assured of getting the job training and benefits part of military service without having to risk going into combat, whereas a greater percentage of brighter men didn't like taking that chance and pursued other options? Or that military service appealed to men who were more a bit more brawny or brave than bright? Seems like combat risk/appeal is a factor when comparing outcomes for the sexes.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @JohnPlywood, @Bill Jones

    Agree.
    Was there any self selection in the AFQT test or where they randomly selected from the population at large ?
    (and by “at large” we mean also those who aren’t)

  45. On a related note, I believe hispanic women are generally smarter than hispanic men…

    • Replies: @black sea
    @Anonymous

    If anything, the cop was too patient before opening fire.

  46. Everyone is an INDIVIDUAL … the BODY-related things (race,gender, etc) have NOTHING to do with the PERSON, who is a SPIRIT IN A BODY gathering experience. Each individual is UNIQUE … each individual has their own experiential path. To attempt to define individuals by body attributes, is ignorant, stupid and regressive. You are Not your body, so all derivative discussions depending on that are moot, and reflect immaturity, lack of experience and a low incarnational perspective.

  47. Are Black Women Smarter Than Black Men?

    Chief Yogananda is either not smart, or not honest:

    Capitol Police chief warns militia groups want to ‘blow up the Capitol’ when Biden addresses Congress

    It’s those “white supremists”. In Antifa. When we’re all waiting to see how the mentally agile Pres. Bideawee performs in a 75-minute address.

    (Or will he pull a Tippecanoe or Garfield, and not live to give one?)

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Reg Cæsar

    Chief Yogananda is either not smart, or not honest:

    In these non-binary times you should go with 'and'.

  48. @Kratoklastes
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s also interesting that the military test shows men with a SD about 1.5 points greater than females. Someone should do the math to see how that affects the M/F ratio at the extreme right tail.
     
    It's been done, but mentioning it will get your shit cancelled quicker than dissing a fake-woman's #SoBrave beat-down of a biological woman.

    The over-representation of men at all points in both tails of the IQ distribution, is taken to be 'problematic' - despite being more obvious than a bulldog's nutsack.

    More genuises, and more doofi; by the time you get to +3σ, you can confidently predict that the guy is practically autistic... because P(it's a guy = 0.95) [and P(pretty fucking autistic) ≅ 0.8].

    I'm perfectly comfortable with the notion that black women are the cognitive superiors of their menfolk: it makes biological sense in a society where pair-bonding is less important as an evolutionary selection mechanism.

    Where pair-bonding is more important (i.e., in places with challenging winters), the standard expectation is that evolution selects for
     • higher overall-smartness (greater challenges that are amenable to cognitive solutions);
     • higher variance in male cognitive abilities (more cognitive specialisation among men - niche warriors/risk-takers and niche trackers/planners);
     • greater neoteny, especially in females.

    People really should read "Erectus Walks Among Us", which Mr Unz has made available in PDF.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Agree with this Kratoklastes. And thanks for the “Erectus Walks Among Us” tip.

    I’ll toss in that among the traits that high latitude/winter selects is conscientiousness. And that’s a big one that looms large in black/white relations. (Or really black/anyone–just black ability to do “civilization”.)

    Another is cooperation. The i’ll help with your harvest, you help with mine vibe that white gentiles possess. (Some of the wilder whites, from more herding, less farming areas definitely possess it less.) Blacks are not particularly cooperative and that also generates “issues”.

  49. @Reg Cæsar

    Are Black Women Smarter Than Black Men?

     

    Chief Yogananda is either not smart, or not honest:


    Capitol Police chief warns militia groups want to 'blow up the Capitol' when Biden addresses Congress

    It's those "white supremists". In Antifa. When we're all waiting to see how the mentally agile Pres. Bideawee performs in a 75-minute address.

    (Or will he pull a Tippecanoe or Garfield, and not live to give one?)


    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210225104722-yogananda-pittman-house-hearing-medium-plus-169.jpg

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Chief Yogananda is either not smart, or not honest:

    In these non-binary times you should go with ‘and’.

  50. @Anonymous
    On a related note, I believe hispanic women are generally smarter than hispanic men...

    https://youtu.be/RFvFj0Jbmd0

    Replies: @black sea

    If anything, the cop was too patient before opening fire.

  51. @Steve Sailer
    @SafeNow

    Blacks who enlist tend to be more bourgeois than average. Blacks looking for a career in the Army typically want to go into a bureaucratic slot such as logistics rather than combat arms, and then have a second career working for the government in a similar job, then collect two pensions. It's a smart plan for life.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Buzz Mohawk, @Abolish_public_education

    I am so sick and tired of lifetime tax leeches.

    It’s “smart” in the style of Willie Sutton.

  52. From the Washington Post:

    With covid limiting school and supervision, teens are driving a spike in carjackings

    A year of the coronavirus has given rise to what police leaders nationwide call an alarming trend: bored, wayward teenagers pointing guns in people’s faces and carjacking them.

    Kids!

    PS: Comments not enabled, and the usual note saying they’ve been turned off is also missing.

  53. @Chris Mallory
    @obwandiyag


    Yeah, right. Gore lost by accident.
     
    Gore lost because he doubled down on the Clinton gun restrictions. That cost him both West Virginia and his home state of Tennessee. Between 1932 and 1996, WV had gone Democrat in 14 elections and Republican 3 times, those 3 were votes for the incumbent. Winning either of those would have made Gore the president.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    Thanks. No one now remembers this but, until the Democratic Party decided that Ralph Nader has magic powers, the political story was about how Al Gore’s policy proposals were not meaningfully different from those of his opponent. Probably the most unambiguously unpopular Clinton plank (notably under-discussed in official media) was the massive unforced error campaign against rural dissidents, which Gore was apparently stupid enough to want to double down on.

  54. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @jon
    This is more boring than golf course architecture.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    I’m a woman who loves both the golf course architecture stuff and the IQ stuff. I love anything related to math, and that includes the Covid stuff for the math ALONE. Maybe the most interesting stuff would be analyzing the IQs of male and female readers of isteve, though I’m aware that the female sample is pretty small. But who cares? It would be merely for internal reference.

    As to the black/white gap. The biggest problems is that with IQs as low as low SES blacks, combined with the whoppingly inappropriate self confidence, they can’t conceptualize what smart even means. And I’m not kidding or being sarcastic. The dumbest literally think they’re as smart as humanly possible.

    Thus, the biggest problem is not what we perceive their IQs to be, but how they perceive themselves. We can perceive their stupidity, but they can’t perceive our brains. I don’t think this is a linear relationship, either. I can easily perceive that the over 160 folks are a lot smarter than I am, with an age peak of 138, and I can see how. (They have a RAM/prefrontal cortex filled with stuff, and can spew it non-stop conversationally, for one thing. I’ve endured such horrors as profs in International Taxation spewing like that for an hour and a half straight. If you think Steve is boring, try listening to that!!!).

  55. @Shango
    @Guest007

    Holy crap, did explain those statistical concepts off the top of your head?

    Replies: @Guest007

    Is anyone going to argue that a when the differences in the mean is 1 point when the S.D. is 50 that the two means are statistically significant? I might have over-estiamted the p-value on second through. The change of getting those results by chance is probably greater than 50%.

    Also, if there were more comparisons between men and women, one could try to do a non-parametric tests such as a signs test to show that the difference is small but always seems to go in the same direction.

    Also, if one is really interest in statistics then one would be asking Steve to do more residual plots instead of plotting three more more curves and leaving it to the reader to mentally notice the residuals.

  56. Given the sense of humor exhibited by many of the posters here, I figured by now it would be inevitable that someone would post this, but I guess not:

    Robert Palmer – Man Smart, Woman Smarter

    Sorry, could not find it on bitchute, hate to link to (((Youtube))).

  57. one of the only really weird man-woman dichotomies i’ve observed is that east asian women are funnier than asian men. of course in general asians are not funny at all, but this is the subtle trend among the genders. all planets spin counter clockwise except Venus, all men are funnier than women except east asian men.

    is this because for 15,000 years they had to be more proactive to get sex to happen than other women? i don’t know, but that’s what current thinking says more broadly about why men are funny and women aren’t. here, because the rate of sex and births is so low, it’s the reverse?

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