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From the NYT:

How Kosovo Was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS

Extremist clerics and secretive associations funded by Saudis and others have transformed a once-tolerant Muslim society into a font of extremism.

By CARLOTTA GALL MAY 21, 2016

PRISTINA, Kosovo — Every Friday, just yards from a statue of Bill Clinton with arm aloft in a cheery wave, hundreds of young bearded men make a show of kneeling to pray on the sidewalk outside an improvised mosque in a former furniture store.

The world’s other two Bill Clinton statues are in Ballybunion, Ireland (addressing his golf ball) and in Rapid City, South Dakota (hanging out in front of a pawn shop in Alternate Universe game show host mode).

The mosque is one of scores built here with Saudi government money and blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology dominant in Saudi Arabia — in the 17 years since an American-led intervention wrested tiny Kosovo from Serbian oppression.

Since then — much of that time under the watch of American officials — Saudi money and influence have transformed this once-tolerant Muslim society at the hem of Europe into a font of Islamic extremism and a pipeline for jihadists.

 
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  1. European-looking Muslims, who could infiltrate the West more easily.

  2. And in newly fashionable Brooklyn:

    The Brooklyn Connection: How to Build a Guerrilla Army

    http://www.motherjones.com/media/2005/07/brooklyn-connection

    It is not an Albanian thing. You still see IRA symbols in Irish areas of the US, Israel is obvious, the Hmong and Hatians tried to overthrow the governments back home. Somalis travel from the US back to Somalia to fight.

  3. Trump’s Build A Wall policy would obviously make matters worse: deprived of the right to emigrate to the US, those Saudi-inspired jihadis would be forced to remain in Kosovo, further radicalizing that society.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    , @e
    @ic1000

    Humph. Imagine any other pol you know gaining this kind of leverage by being polite or supplicating. Frankly, this does my heart good.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/world/americas/donald-trump-mexico.html?_r=0

    , @artichoke
    @ic1000

    You don't solve the problem by appeasing Muslim immigration. Then you get to the 20% or so level, and they become militant. You have to build walls and say no. Guarded walls. They can be beaten with superior planning and military organization.

    They don't radicalize because you're mean to them. They do that anyway. Their holy books tell them to, especially Sunni, but also Shia. Most people aren't that energetic, but one can always put together a jihad force once the population gets some concentration.

  4. Every Friday, just yards from a statue of Bill Clinton with arm aloft in a cheery wave, hundreds of young bearded men make a show of kneeling to pray on the sidewalk outside an improvised mosque in a former furniture store.

    That’s… quite appropriate, actually.

  5. — much of that time under the watch of American officials —

    In service to The Other; that pretty well sums up our government’s efforts on the behalf of its citizenry.

    • Replies: @M_Young
    @bomag

    "In service to The Other; that pretty well sums up our government’s efforts on the behalf of its citizenry."

    Perhaps you didn't catch the 60 minutes puff piece on/with Valerie Jarret, or note that the longtime head of La Raza is Obama's chief domestic policy advisor, or that a 'gay' man is now head of the Army.

    Our government is The Other, in one of its manifestations or another.

  6. @ic1000
    Trump's Build A Wall policy would obviously make matters worse: deprived of the right to emigrate to the US, those Saudi-inspired jihadis would be forced to remain in Kosovo, further radicalizing that society.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @e, @artichoke

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that’s n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It’s similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @reiner Tor

    Engineering 201: At some point the structural integrity of the wall and its underlying foundation will Trump the ladder.

    , @Immigrant from former USSR
    @reiner Tor

    As we all know nowadays, it was gentile German mathematician David Hilbert, who discovered


    the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle,
     
    before Einstein. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Arrow_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Zeno_effect
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @reiner Tor

    PRO TIP:

    While the ladder height increases arithmetically, the pain associated with being pushed off increases exponentially.

    Oops got that wrong...

    BONUS PRO TIP:

    It's not the fall that hurts. It's the sudden stop at the end.

    , @Abe
    @reiner Tor


    the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.
     
    The hatewaves emitted by Trump's moratorium on all Muslim immigration, in addition to radicalizing every Muslim in the present, have (because of their extreme high-energy) also gone back in time and radicalized the Muslims of the past, making him ultimately responsible for the thwarted Fort Dix attack planned by several Albanian Muslim (illegal) immigrants in 2007.


    A bit off-topic, but another animal satisfaction I'll get from Trump thrashing Hillary in the general election, should it so transpire, is the reverse revision of Bill's status as a smooth, glamorous, latter-day Don Juan, beloved of all desirable and good women. This notion got going in the afterglow of his post-impeachment "victory" and the general peace & prosperity "era of good feelings" ambience of late 90's America.

    I don't know how much of this was astroturfing by feminist freaks of the "I'd blow him if he keeps abortion legal" variety, but I do remember many fawning lifestyle pieces on Clinton in the early 2000's showing him in the company of several different (relatively) attractive women not his wife, and it was all wink-wink, nudge-nudge, if-Hillary-don't-mind-who-are-we-to-judge, and ain't-he-just-the-world's-biggest-dreamboat!

    The recent "hit-piece" on Trump and his womanizing in the NEW YORK TIMES by two nerdy Millenials, and Camille Paglia's excellent rebuttal to it, instantly jarred me from the ain't-Bill-just-the-sweetest-heartthrob media programming of the last 15 years. Take a look at that banquet photo of Trump and Rowanne Brewer. Now that is star power! That is glamour! It exposes Bill's womanizing with frankly unattractive, overweight, and under-age females- many of whom he had to borderline sexually assault- as the unsmooth moves of the creepy, pathetic loser he really is.

    Yeah, none of this should matter if we lived in Plato's ideal philosopher-king republic, but we don't, and the propaganda that so many Democratic Presidents have been glamorous ladykillers and that- by extension- you, Republican primary voter over there- must be some kind of bitter, woman-hating loser, has high-time reached the point where it deserves demolishing.
    , @rod1963
    @reiner Tor

    Well if it's 50 feet tall and there are border guards on the other end, they won't be crossing. As it is with the current wall built by Bush, the vast majority do not cross were the wall is but where it is not.This shows the wall does work.

    Add in ground sensors and aggressive patrolling and you cut illegal immigration to a trickle.

    This shows walls do work. They also certainly work for the Israelis and Saudis as well.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @SteveRogers42

    , @Lurker
    @reiner Tor


    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that’s n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall.
     
    Of course, which is why the Berlin Wall utterly failed to stop anyone crossing.

    Hopeless.
    , @iSteveFan
    @reiner Tor

    Though every wall could presumably be surmounted by someone, calculating the effectiveness of the wall is more like a calculus type rate-of-flow problem. Currently the illegals stream across the border at their leisure. An effective would would severely cut down on this rate of flow which would reduce the number of crossers dramatically and allow our border agents an easier time to focus on those few who actually make it across.

    , @artichoke
    @reiner Tor

    A wall is a defensible perimeter. You still have to guard it by guards on site, cameras, drones (another form of camera, presumably they won't carry ordnance). Hungary built a wall and has guards patrolling it.

    The purpose of the wall is to slow them down enough to catch them. A good plan is a double wall with a usable road between, maybe 15 foot high walls with razor wire or just broken glass on top, with guards in vehicles patrolling the roads, and with cameras and other detectors also there. The would-be crossers don't know where the cameras are, and when something is detected, the guards whiz over there and capture the crossers. Maybe a prepositioned teargas canister could be detonated remotely to slow them down a bit more. Bring them to a station, iris scan or fingerprint, compare with database, then decide what to do with them.

    If first time, back where they came from. After that, some sort of prison arrangement I guess.

  7. Another stupid war that had no relation to any vital American interest. The three stooges – Slick Willie, W, and O – have done the USA enormous harm. And now you might be about to elect little Mrs Vile. Aargh!

    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @dearieme

    Yes, I think with the election of Hildabeast, we will have the four most incompetent Presidents in our nation's history in a row. Unfortunately, I think her election is inevitable, as the elites who truly run this country will not allow Mr. Trump to win, even if it it takes massive voter fraud.

    There may be a lot of ruin in a nation, but I think we are about to run out.

  8. Taking the Clinton’s as a team, it is difficult to image an informed person voting for the Hildebeast. A short list of issues in addition to the one in the masthead:

    1. Support for NAFTA
    2. Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act
    3. The Kosovo war
    4. Shameless influence peddling
    5. The Libyan civil war
    6. The Syrian civil war
    7. Support for the Bush wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
    8. The Clinton foundations
    9. Enabling Bill Clinton’s shameless philandering
    10. Politically and financially owned by Wall Street
    11. Gross insincerity … pandering to different blocks of voters with contradictory messages
    12. Can’t be trusted to carry through on expressed policies and positions delivered to special interest groups
    13. Can be trusted to protect the political interests of the neocons and the economic interests of the .001%
    14. Hillary’s private, unsecured email server used for government business to send/receive classified information and avoid the laws and accountability associated with retaining and archiving government records.

    I’m just getting started ….

  9. Is there a single place on the planet where strictly observed Islam has resulted in anything other than violence and repression? When I was a child at the end of the Cold War, it was not considered controversial to vocalize the observation that Communism resulted in widespread poverty and oppression wherever it became the organizing principal of society. Yet today to make the same observation about Islam is to be accused of racism or xenophobia.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Arclight

    That's because Mohammed, a warlord, bundled his new "religion" with guidelines for every aspect of life, including lengthy instructions on fighting tribal wars.

    It's gets the pass Communism didn't get because it's a "religion".

  10. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Clintons along with other war lovers such as Samantha Power really hit upon a nifty Orwellian trick by presenting military attack as being a ‘humanitarian intervention’. Dropping bombs because we care, because we’re so good-hearted. They created this mafia state along with the artificial basket-case known as Bosnia, both times backing the Muslims. The Saudis with their money have been everywhere financing mosques all over and promoting their poisonous Wahhabism. American politicians such as the Bush family have been very cozy with Saudi generosity and so have let them go on their merry way spreading it far and wide. Obama himself seems to have been exceedingly deferential to them whenever he’s met them. There’s probably a lot we don’t know about the US-Saudi connection to the cultivation and promotion of Islamic extremism and the recruitment of jihadists as cannon fodder on behalf of American policies worldwide.

  11. “The hem of Europe”more like the center of southern europe

  12. and the ghost of Milosevic says…… I told you so.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @tyrone

    exactly

  13. Ms. May has a ‘lotta gall

  14. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    Engineering 201: At some point the structural integrity of the wall and its underlying foundation will Trump the ladder.

  15. blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology

    They always get their licks in eh? See, if we elect trump or sing Christmas carols, we’ll turn into saudi arabia, but if let in millions of ‘migrant/vibrant’ muslims we’ll become a multicultural paradise like moorish spain.

    Side note, there’s a great series about Isabel and the reconquest of Spain – it was made for Spanish TV, and hard to find over here..

    http://decider.com/2015/08/27/isabel-spanish-tudors/

    don’t expect it to get over here – it defies the narrative. but its a great series. the woman who plays Isabel – Michelle Jenner ain’t shabby. (she is spanish her father was English hence the name)

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @oh its just me too


    Side note, there’s a great series about Isabel and the reconquest of Spain – it was made for Spanish TV, and hard to find over here..
    http://decider.com/2015/08/27/isabel-spanish-tudors/
    don’t expect it to get over here – it defies the narrative. but its a great series. the woman who plays Isabel – Michelle Jenner ain’t shabby. (she is spanish her father was English hence the name)
     
    Seems to be very available right here. Seasons one and two for free and in high resolution. I intend to give it a go. Thanks! Season three is also there.
    https://www.dramafever.com/drama/4221/2/Isabel_-_Season_1/?ap=1
    , @jill
    @oh its just me too

    Good point. You may want to read a just published book “The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews Under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain” by Darío Fernández-Morera

    Here he talks about his book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REljGDVQJDs

  16. What’s that I keep hearing? Bill Clinton’s foreign policy rationality?

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    To Steve, Trump has already beaten that 5.8 point gap vs. Clinton that you were all like there “MIGHT” be enough time to bridge the gap between trump and clinton, if we’re REALLY LUCCKY. He’s up by 0.4 points, I can’t believe that you actually think that the Clinton’s have any real intelligence and are just relatively intellegent tools. They don’t have any SUPER SECRET GENIUS PLAM, Steve, and I’m starting to think there’s a decent chance you’re a payed agitator here.

    I see that you’re bringing up Bill Clinton and golf again! Are you Stoll obsessesed with him not resigning publically from the Trump Course? I bet at this point Trump could kick his ads in front of a million witnesses all the way to his death and you’s still be all “PLLLLEAAAAASSEEEEEE, TRUMP IS PROBABLY A TOOL OF THE CLINTON’S TO HURT REPUBLIXANS SO CLINTON WINS. YOU GOTTA VOTE FOR ONE OF THOSE GREAT YOUNG LATINOS CEUZ OR RUBIO. RUBIO COULD STILL TOTALLLYYY REDEEM HIMSELF!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THERE’S STILL TIME TO VOTE FOR HIM. I’D RATHER BE CUCKED BY REAGAN OR WHOEVER BECAUSE THEY’RE RESPECTABLE PEOPLE WHO REMIND ME OF MY DAD RATHER THAN MAYBE SAVE MY NATION.”

    btw I’m not even a Trump supporter but you’ve been absolutely ridiculous over the past year Trump is winning RCP average.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
  18. I suppose the US government prefers saudis to serbs. This is to be commended. We all know the problems the US and Europe have been having with radical Serbian extremism over the past decade and a half.

  19. is Serbia

  20. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    As we all know nowadays, it was gentile German mathematician David Hilbert, who discovered

    the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle,

    before Einstein. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Arrow_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Zeno_effect

  21. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    PRO TIP:

    While the ladder height increases arithmetically, the pain associated with being pushed off increases exponentially.

    Oops got that wrong…

    BONUS PRO TIP:

    It’s not the fall that hurts. It’s the sudden stop at the end.

  22. To be fair, allowing the Saudis and Gulf Emirates to fund radical mosques around the world has been a bipartisan effort since at least the Reagan administration. But Prince Bandar was such an affable, likeable guy!

    And to go a little further, the Kosovo Albanian insurgents were not militant Islamists, they were secular Albanian nationalists. It’s just that the removal of Serbian control from Kosovo created space for the Islamic charities to move in.

  23. Srdja Trifkovič warned abt Kosovo radicalising after independence for 20yrs.

    but he’s a paleo loon, so nvm… move along people. Serbs bad, capisce.

  24. One recalls the comment about Bill Clinton being the first American President sinc FDr to bomb white people, as if that was a good thing.

    Now he is bombing people in Paris by proxy.

  25. The photograph of the statue of Bill Clinton in front of a pawn shop in Rapid City is priceless. I don’t know how much better it could be, unless it was in front of a massage parlor in Reno.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @Johnnygeo
    @Harry Baldwin

    Still looks better than the DC MLK statue

    , @Marty
    @Harry Baldwin

    Well, depends what you mean by "massage parlor." The kind you probably mean, don't exist in Reno, where the cops ruthlessly suppress prostitution. According to local lore, in the early '50's the area military base was experiencing a VD epidemic, so the commander gave the city fathers an ultimatum: either get rid of the hookers or we take our business elsewhere.

    Replies: @Smitty

  26. @Harry Baldwin
    The photograph of the statue of Bill Clinton in front of a pawn shop in Rapid City is priceless. I don't know how much better it could be, unless it was in front of a massage parlor in Reno.

    Replies: @Johnnygeo, @Marty

    Still looks better than the DC MLK statue

  27. “The mosque is one of scores built here with Saudi government money and blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology dominant in Saudi Arabia…….”

    The Saudi government (i.e. the Saud family – same thing) have been doing this in the U.S. as well.

    Here’s a question for Donald Trump to bring up on the campaign trail: If the First Amendment – in it’s present “Separation of Church and State” interperetation – is taken to mean that state and local governments and the federal government can not subsidize the practice of religion, then why do we permit foreign governments to do so?

  28. Bosnia was “tolerant” when it was ruled by others in multi-ethnic empire and then a multi-ethnic mini-empire. As soon as they received their independence, they started to become as intolerant as every other Muslim nation, wahabi or not. The population of Christians falls in every Muslim country, no matter if it is so called moderate or Islamist. The problem is Islam – not wahabi Islam. Every terror attack is now ISIS. But before ISIS it was Al Qaeda, and before Al Qaeda, it was Islamic Jihad or Hezbollah, and before them it was the PLO or some offshoot. And after ISIS it will be some new group you have never heard of. Nonsense. It is all Islam. It is the Muslim population. Bosnia was destined to cause the West trouble and favoring them over the Serbs (who were our ally in WW2) was a mistake.

  29. The photograph of the statue of Bill Clinton in front of a pawn shop in Rapid City is priceless. I don’t know how much better it could be, unless it was in front of a massage parlor in Reno.

    🙂

    To be fair, Rapid City has statues of many different presidents around town. They didn’t single out Clinton. Most of the statues seem to receive some degree of minor ridicule from tourists.

  30. @Harry Baldwin
    The photograph of the statue of Bill Clinton in front of a pawn shop in Rapid City is priceless. I don't know how much better it could be, unless it was in front of a massage parlor in Reno.

    Replies: @Johnnygeo, @Marty

    Well, depends what you mean by “massage parlor.” The kind you probably mean, don’t exist in Reno, where the cops ruthlessly suppress prostitution. According to local lore, in the early ’50’s the area military base was experiencing a VD epidemic, so the commander gave the city fathers an ultimatum: either get rid of the hookers or we take our business elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Smitty
    @Marty

    Street prostitutes aren't kosher anywhere in Nevada, but your story must date from before the opening of (closely regulated) brothels in adjacent Storey and Lyon Counties. They're within a 30 minute expedition from Reno-Sparks for G.I.s or anybody else... Assuming the guys at the base don't have access to Craig's List

    Replies: @Marty

  31. Ban Saudi money from financing any “charity” in the US or the EU, or anywhere for that matter.

  32. Forget about Clinton – what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism. The most insane thing that the West has done in the last 100 years was to take a fanatical but impoverished desert cult, promote them to the leadership of an entire country in favor of the traditional (and relatively moderate) Hashemite dynasty and then given them TRILLIONS of dollars of oil money with which to spread their crazy version of Islam and then allow them to open mosques and madrassahs to spread their hateful ideology all over the world (especially in places with vulnerable Islamic youth) in the guise of religious freedom. Each step along the way made sense (sort of, not really) but when you combine all of these factors together you get global terrorism on steroids and yet the Saudis are still supposed to be our “friends”.

    And due to the impoverishment of most Muslim populations (except where there is oil) which in turn caused by their low IQ and inbreeding, high birth rates, corruption and overall failure to thrive in conditions of modernity, there are vulnerable Muslim youths all over the globe, both in Muslim majority countries and also in alienated Muslim populations in the West.

    The statues of Clinton all look like department store dummies. It shows you how hard it is to do realistic representational art well without it looking like kitsch.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jack D


    Forget about Clinton – what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism.
     
    And that money comes entirely from oil. Every little bit you can cut your consumption is money out of their pockets. The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models. Here are two worth considering:

    The 2015 and later F-150 is the result of billions of dollars of investment and design and retooling to be the first mainstream vehicle made primarily from aluminum rather than steel. Aluminum is stronger and lighter than steel, but harder to work with. The result is the F-150 is 700lbs lighter and thus both faster and with much better mileage. And the price starts at only $26,000 for the leftover 2015's and $26,500 for 2016's.

    http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/

    If you don't need a full-size truck, and are a home-owner with off-street parking, consider another marvel of American engineering, the Chevy Volt. It does not use any gas at all when it is in its electric range of 53 miles, the vast majority of all trips. But it has a normal gas engine for longer trips or if you just forgot to charge it. While the Tesla is an awesome vehicle too, it costs $80,000 and has a shorter range. The Volt, with the tax credit, starts at only $25,720, and in your first 100,000 miles of ownership, your spending on gas will go be cut by about $12,000.

    http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car.html

    Replies: @Smitty, @Anonymous

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Jack D

    for me "vulnerable" means being at the wrong side of a AK-47. Being on a 30 year long imperialistic triumphant frenzy like Islam today means not being "vulnerable" to me.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Bill B.
    @Jack D

    As Ed West suggested on Twitter: When the British had an empire they enabled Irish missionaries to spread the word; the Americans have the Saudis fulfilling the same role...

  33. >>>given them TRILLIONS of dollars of oil money with which to spread their crazy version of Islam

    Is their any version of Islam that is not crazy?

  34. If Hillary loses in November, there will be hell to pay up in Chappaqua. Of course Hillary will blame Bill. (Sometimes I have a bit of sympathy for Bill for staying married to and enduring that harpy for 40 years). If the polls are trending downward, Bill’s backs will already be packed so that he can make a clean getaway the day after the election. Where will he go? My guess is Ireland. They love Bill over there. The Irish are sentimentalists. They just love a devilish rogue. Clinton will be embraced with open arms over there and become a national treasure.

  35. Arming and supporting Muslim jihadists have been standard American foreign policy for decades. It’s not some innovation of “Clintonism”.

  36. Abe says: • Website
    @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    The hatewaves emitted by Trump’s moratorium on all Muslim immigration, in addition to radicalizing every Muslim in the present, have (because of their extreme high-energy) also gone back in time and radicalized the Muslims of the past, making him ultimately responsible for the thwarted Fort Dix attack planned by several Albanian Muslim (illegal) immigrants in 2007.

    A bit off-topic, but another animal satisfaction I’ll get from Trump thrashing Hillary in the general election, should it so transpire, is the reverse revision of Bill’s status as a smooth, glamorous, latter-day Don Juan, beloved of all desirable and good women. This notion got going in the afterglow of his post-impeachment “victory” and the general peace & prosperity “era of good feelings” ambience of late 90’s America.

    I don’t know how much of this was astroturfing by feminist freaks of the “I’d blow him if he keeps abortion legal” variety, but I do remember many fawning lifestyle pieces on Clinton in the early 2000’s showing him in the company of several different (relatively) attractive women not his wife, and it was all wink-wink, nudge-nudge, if-Hillary-don’t-mind-who-are-we-to-judge, and ain’t-he-just-the-world’s-biggest-dreamboat!

    The recent “hit-piece” on Trump and his womanizing in the NEW YORK TIMES by two nerdy Millenials, and Camille Paglia’s excellent rebuttal to it, instantly jarred me from the ain’t-Bill-just-the-sweetest-heartthrob media programming of the last 15 years. Take a look at that banquet photo of Trump and Rowanne Brewer. Now that is star power! That is glamour! It exposes Bill’s womanizing with frankly unattractive, overweight, and under-age females- many of whom he had to borderline sexually assault- as the unsmooth moves of the creepy, pathetic loser he really is.

    Yeah, none of this should matter if we lived in Plato’s ideal philosopher-king republic, but we don’t, and the propaganda that so many Democratic Presidents have been glamorous ladykillers and that- by extension- you, Republican primary voter over there- must be some kind of bitter, woman-hating loser, has high-time reached the point where it deserves demolishing.

    • Agree: antipater_1
  37. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    Well if it’s 50 feet tall and there are border guards on the other end, they won’t be crossing. As it is with the current wall built by Bush, the vast majority do not cross were the wall is but where it is not.This shows the wall does work.

    Add in ground sensors and aggressive patrolling and you cut illegal immigration to a trickle.

    This shows walls do work. They also certainly work for the Israelis and Saudis as well.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @rod1963

    The Atlantic has just realised that walls are a thing, something Steve and his commenters have been pointing out for a year or so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier#List_of_current_barriers

    "Donald Trump’s proposal for the U.S.-Mexico border isn’t outdated. It’s a sign of the times... Of the 51 fortified boundaries built between countries since the end of World War II, around half were constructed between 2000 and 2014. Hassner and Wittenberg found that such boundaries—structures like the existing U.S.-Mexico border fence, the Israel-West Bank barrier, and the Saudi Arabia-Yemen border fence—tend to be constructed by wealthy countries seeking to keep out the citizens of poorer countries, and that many of these fortifications have been built between states in the Muslim world."


    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-wall-mexico/483156/?

    , @SteveRogers42
    @rod1963

    Plus, these:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

    Nobody gets injured. Nobody gets across.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

  38. Well violent jihad isn’t going to preach itself you know!

    Are the Saudis deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from the civilised world? Do these less sophisticated Semites still have an ancient genetic memory compelling them to undermine and ferment other cultures (but without the slightly more subtle approach of their fellow sons of Shem)?

  39. Lot says:

    I am feeling awfully fuzzy and optimistic today as I contemplate the fact that we may be less than a year away from having a president who will end Muslim and other dysgenic immigration, opposes stupid middle east wars but loves our military and loves Israel, and will stop the left from taking over the Supreme Court and the few remaining Circuit Courts they do not control.

    Trump is now, for the first time, officially in the lead with poll averages!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    These are all things Trump can do his first 100 days. For the Supreme Court, he may have a Dem senate majority stopping him from appointing a young Scalia, but there are plenty of other bland and inoffensive Republicans who can get the mere 1 or 2 or so Dem votes to be approved.

    For the wall, he already has a great plan to start: immediately impose fees of Mexican remittances and use them to fund the parts of the border fence that are authorized to be built but were never provided funding. Maybe other standard immigration process fees can be increased. As long as the law does not have a specific amount, the implication is the amount is set by the exec branch.

    Likewise, current law already gives the president the power to suspend immigration from specific countries. I doubt Trump can specifically get away with “no Muslim immigration.” But 98% as good is “no somalia, saudi, yemeni, syrian, pakistani, etc immigration.”

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Lot

    Not ambitious enough. Since Islam = fusion of church and state, it is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution and can be outlawed in total without violating the First Amendment.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

    , @Perspective
    @Lot

    For the sake of the US and the world I would love to see a Trump presidency. Not just for spite against the PC crowd (though that alone would make me want to vote for him), but for his immigration policy. As a Canadian though, I'm worried that should Trump limit Muslim immigration this will cause a flood of them to come here. Canada already receives nearly as many Pakistani and Afghan immigrants as the US does, even though our population is much smaller. Only hope is that in four years we elect a Conservative government that will align our policies with those of Trump. I sincerely doubt that will happen, Canada will become another Sweden.

  40. Lot says:

    I see VP choices as helping Trump and hurting Hillary.

    Trump I think will either choose Portman or Ernst. They meet the basic requirements of being qualified and having voted against the Rubio amnesty bill. They also both have won elections in swing states. They both work as olive branches, Portman to the GOPe/Bushies and Ernst to the Cruz-voting evangelicals. The very gay MSM will love Portman’s gay son. And Ernst will create a Palin-level enthusiasm for SoCons and probably kill most support for #NeverTrump.

    Gingrich is supposed to be the favorite, but he is too old, too flaky, has three decades worth of saying random stupid things on camera, and does not help with any swing states. I know Uncle Sheldon likes him, hopefully he’s not trying to pressure Trump on the issue. There is also no real dispute Newt dumped one wife when she had cancer, the cheated for years on the next wife with a staffer.

    For Hillary, no real sector of the Dem establishment other than Wall Street liberals and elderly white women truly like her. And there is no obvious choice that does not disappoint much of the winning Obama coalition. Hispanics want Hoolian, but he is an empty suit with gay face and will turn off blacks and whites. (Tom Perez seems a better choice if she wants to go hispanic, but he’s not a Mexican).

    Brown is probably the best choice because he is white, male, and has a gruff blue collar persona. He’s perfect to offset Trump’s strength with whites in the Great Lakes and Pennsylvania and bring home Bernie voters. But minorities will be disappointed. Warren will also help bring home young Bernie voters and white liberal turnout, but she’s white and a double-female ticket will turn off working class males.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @Lot

    I agree with your ideas about Trump's VP, but Portman said a month ago he wasn't interested. No idea how firmly he meant it. It seems like an attractive opportunity, because if you join Trump, you can win. Much better than being McCain's or Romney's VP pick.

    Gingrich has tons of enemies and he's not very honest. I would be surprised if Trump even likes him.

    I hope Hillary doesn't pick Castro because I can't stand to look at him or listen to him. He's just a bad human being.

  41. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that’s n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall.

    Of course, which is why the Berlin Wall utterly failed to stop anyone crossing.

    Hopeless.

  42. Was that the once-tolerant Muslim society that harvested organs from murdered Serb prisoners?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

    “The Republic of Albania is an official candidate for accession to the European Union since June 2014.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Albania_to_the_European_Union

    OT

    Vegans climb Everest to demonstrate that vegans aren’t weak. One dead, one very ill.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/mount-everest-maria-strydom-and-robert-gropels-tragic-adventure-20160522-gp0t3p.html

    Dr Strydom and her husband Dr Gropel were passionate vegan campaigners and wanted to tackle Everest to challenge the diet’s stereotypes. “It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak” Dr Strydom said in March.

    • Replies: @e
    @Anonymous Nephew

    I don't want to laugh; I don't feel it speaks well of me to laugh...but yes, I had to suppress some chuckles. I suspect they are "progressives," the strangest of all anti-science folks.

  43. Lot says:
    @Jack D
    Forget about Clinton - what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism. The most insane thing that the West has done in the last 100 years was to take a fanatical but impoverished desert cult, promote them to the leadership of an entire country in favor of the traditional (and relatively moderate) Hashemite dynasty and then given them TRILLIONS of dollars of oil money with which to spread their crazy version of Islam and then allow them to open mosques and madrassahs to spread their hateful ideology all over the world (especially in places with vulnerable Islamic youth) in the guise of religious freedom. Each step along the way made sense (sort of, not really) but when you combine all of these factors together you get global terrorism on steroids and yet the Saudis are still supposed to be our "friends".

    And due to the impoverishment of most Muslim populations (except where there is oil) which in turn caused by their low IQ and inbreeding, high birth rates, corruption and overall failure to thrive in conditions of modernity, there are vulnerable Muslim youths all over the globe, both in Muslim majority countries and also in alienated Muslim populations in the West.

    The statues of Clinton all look like department store dummies. It shows you how hard it is to do realistic representational art well without it looking like kitsch.

    Replies: @Lot, @Erik Sieven, @Bill B.

    Forget about Clinton – what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism.

    And that money comes entirely from oil. Every little bit you can cut your consumption is money out of their pockets. The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models. Here are two worth considering:

    The 2015 and later F-150 is the result of billions of dollars of investment and design and retooling to be the first mainstream vehicle made primarily from aluminum rather than steel. Aluminum is stronger and lighter than steel, but harder to work with. The result is the F-150 is 700lbs lighter and thus both faster and with much better mileage. And the price starts at only $26,000 for the leftover 2015’s and $26,500 for 2016’s.

    http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/

    If you don’t need a full-size truck, and are a home-owner with off-street parking, consider another marvel of American engineering, the Chevy Volt. It does not use any gas at all when it is in its electric range of 53 miles, the vast majority of all trips. But it has a normal gas engine for longer trips or if you just forgot to charge it. While the Tesla is an awesome vehicle too, it costs $80,000 and has a shorter range. The Volt, with the tax credit, starts at only $25,720, and in your first 100,000 miles of ownership, your spending on gas will go be cut by about $12,000.

    http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car.html

    • Replies: @Smitty
    @Lot

    You know what else you can do? Move into a solar-powered shack in the hills and not buy anything at stores. Also I'm assuming you've given up postal mail and products containing plastic. Is your computer/tablet powered by hand crank as well, or do you comment exclusively from the local public library's hobo section

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot

    The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models.

    ---

    lol Are you stuck in the 1980s?

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

  44. Marty [AKA "Harvard Hates America"] says:
    @Lot
    I am feeling awfully fuzzy and optimistic today as I contemplate the fact that we may be less than a year away from having a president who will end Muslim and other dysgenic immigration, opposes stupid middle east wars but loves our military and loves Israel, and will stop the left from taking over the Supreme Court and the few remaining Circuit Courts they do not control.

    Trump is now, for the first time, officially in the lead with poll averages!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    These are all things Trump can do his first 100 days. For the Supreme Court, he may have a Dem senate majority stopping him from appointing a young Scalia, but there are plenty of other bland and inoffensive Republicans who can get the mere 1 or 2 or so Dem votes to be approved.

    For the wall, he already has a great plan to start: immediately impose fees of Mexican remittances and use them to fund the parts of the border fence that are authorized to be built but were never provided funding. Maybe other standard immigration process fees can be increased. As long as the law does not have a specific amount, the implication is the amount is set by the exec branch.

    Likewise, current law already gives the president the power to suspend immigration from specific countries. I doubt Trump can specifically get away with "no Muslim immigration." But 98% as good is "no somalia, saudi, yemeni, syrian, pakistani, etc immigration."

    Replies: @Marty, @Perspective

    Not ambitious enough. Since Islam = fusion of church and state, it is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution and can be outlawed in total without violating the First Amendment.

    • Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Marty

    Not ambitious enough. Since Islam = fusion of church and state, it is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution and can be outlawed in total without violating the First Amendment.

    Or the same end could be attained by classifying the entire religion as a terrorist organization (which it is) based on an orthodox reading of Islamic texts.

  45. @Marty
    @Harry Baldwin

    Well, depends what you mean by "massage parlor." The kind you probably mean, don't exist in Reno, where the cops ruthlessly suppress prostitution. According to local lore, in the early '50's the area military base was experiencing a VD epidemic, so the commander gave the city fathers an ultimatum: either get rid of the hookers or we take our business elsewhere.

    Replies: @Smitty

    Street prostitutes aren’t kosher anywhere in Nevada, but your story must date from before the opening of (closely regulated) brothels in adjacent Storey and Lyon Counties. They’re within a 30 minute expedition from Reno-Sparks for G.I.s or anybody else… Assuming the guys at the base don’t have access to Craig’s List

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Smitty

    It would be an interesting statistics/epidemiology experiment: how much would the clap rate drop if the troops had to make a 60-mile round trip for it?

  46. @Lot
    @Jack D


    Forget about Clinton – what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism.
     
    And that money comes entirely from oil. Every little bit you can cut your consumption is money out of their pockets. The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models. Here are two worth considering:

    The 2015 and later F-150 is the result of billions of dollars of investment and design and retooling to be the first mainstream vehicle made primarily from aluminum rather than steel. Aluminum is stronger and lighter than steel, but harder to work with. The result is the F-150 is 700lbs lighter and thus both faster and with much better mileage. And the price starts at only $26,000 for the leftover 2015's and $26,500 for 2016's.

    http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/

    If you don't need a full-size truck, and are a home-owner with off-street parking, consider another marvel of American engineering, the Chevy Volt. It does not use any gas at all when it is in its electric range of 53 miles, the vast majority of all trips. But it has a normal gas engine for longer trips or if you just forgot to charge it. While the Tesla is an awesome vehicle too, it costs $80,000 and has a shorter range. The Volt, with the tax credit, starts at only $25,720, and in your first 100,000 miles of ownership, your spending on gas will go be cut by about $12,000.

    http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car.html

    Replies: @Smitty, @Anonymous

    You know what else you can do? Move into a solar-powered shack in the hills and not buy anything at stores. Also I’m assuming you’ve given up postal mail and products containing plastic. Is your computer/tablet powered by hand crank as well, or do you comment exclusively from the local public library’s hobo section

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Smitty

    Mr. Green Genes, you are right. This is a totally black and white question - either you cut your carbon footprint to that of a Yanomami Indian or you keep living like Al Gore. There is no in-between possible. Millions of people each saving thousands of gallons of fuel means nothing. That's why oil prices remain near their record highs.

    PS - also don't change all the lightbulbs in your house to LED and cut your lighting costs by 80+%. That doesn't do anything either.

    Replies: @antipater_1

  47. If Kosovo was “once-tolerant” that’s news to me. I remember in the 90s reading it was the home base of organized crime in SE Europe (which I suppose demonstrates a kind of tolerance). The FBI claimed they couldn’t find enough Albanian translators.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Smitty


    If Kosovo was “once-tolerant” that’s news to me. I remember in the 90s reading it was the home base of organized crime in SE Europe (which I suppose demonstrates a kind of tolerance).
     
    Like in the movie "Taken" though the town all the scummy crooks were from was in Albania. Not much different from Kosovo as far as sending a very very nasty criminal element to Europe. They drive the Italian mafia out of business everywhere. They are so vicious and evil
  48. @Smitty
    @Lot

    You know what else you can do? Move into a solar-powered shack in the hills and not buy anything at stores. Also I'm assuming you've given up postal mail and products containing plastic. Is your computer/tablet powered by hand crank as well, or do you comment exclusively from the local public library's hobo section

    Replies: @Jack D

    Mr. Green Genes, you are right. This is a totally black and white question – either you cut your carbon footprint to that of a Yanomami Indian or you keep living like Al Gore. There is no in-between possible. Millions of people each saving thousands of gallons of fuel means nothing. That’s why oil prices remain near their record highs.

    PS – also don’t change all the lightbulbs in your house to LED and cut your lighting costs by 80+%. That doesn’t do anything either.

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Jack D

    Current oil prices are only about 1/3 of their record 2008 highs.

  49. @Jack D
    Forget about Clinton - what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism. The most insane thing that the West has done in the last 100 years was to take a fanatical but impoverished desert cult, promote them to the leadership of an entire country in favor of the traditional (and relatively moderate) Hashemite dynasty and then given them TRILLIONS of dollars of oil money with which to spread their crazy version of Islam and then allow them to open mosques and madrassahs to spread their hateful ideology all over the world (especially in places with vulnerable Islamic youth) in the guise of religious freedom. Each step along the way made sense (sort of, not really) but when you combine all of these factors together you get global terrorism on steroids and yet the Saudis are still supposed to be our "friends".

    And due to the impoverishment of most Muslim populations (except where there is oil) which in turn caused by their low IQ and inbreeding, high birth rates, corruption and overall failure to thrive in conditions of modernity, there are vulnerable Muslim youths all over the globe, both in Muslim majority countries and also in alienated Muslim populations in the West.

    The statues of Clinton all look like department store dummies. It shows you how hard it is to do realistic representational art well without it looking like kitsch.

    Replies: @Lot, @Erik Sieven, @Bill B.

    for me “vulnerable” means being at the wrong side of a AK-47. Being on a 30 year long imperialistic triumphant frenzy like Islam today means not being “vulnerable” to me.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Erik Sieven

    Fine, then change "vulnerable" to "prone to recruitment by Islamic death cults". The point is that the Saudi cult leaders know just as well as ephebophile Catholic priests who are the weak links that they can go after. Grown men with good jobs and wives and children are never the target group for either, nor are young men who feel they are right on track to achieving these things.

  50. @rod1963
    @reiner Tor

    Well if it's 50 feet tall and there are border guards on the other end, they won't be crossing. As it is with the current wall built by Bush, the vast majority do not cross were the wall is but where it is not.This shows the wall does work.

    Add in ground sensors and aggressive patrolling and you cut illegal immigration to a trickle.

    This shows walls do work. They also certainly work for the Israelis and Saudis as well.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @SteveRogers42

    The Atlantic has just realised that walls are a thing, something Steve and his commenters have been pointing out for a year or so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier#List_of_current_barriers

    “Donald Trump’s proposal for the U.S.-Mexico border isn’t outdated. It’s a sign of the times… Of the 51 fortified boundaries built between countries since the end of World War II, around half were constructed between 2000 and 2014. Hassner and Wittenberg found that such boundaries—structures like the existing U.S.-Mexico border fence, the Israel-West Bank barrier, and the Saudi Arabia-Yemen border fence—tend to be constructed by wealthy countries seeking to keep out the citizens of poorer countries, and that many of these fortifications have been built between states in the Muslim world.”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-wall-mexico/483156/?

  51. @Marty
    @Lot

    Not ambitious enough. Since Islam = fusion of church and state, it is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution and can be outlawed in total without violating the First Amendment.

    Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew

    Not ambitious enough. Since Islam = fusion of church and state, it is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution and can be outlawed in total without violating the First Amendment.

    Or the same end could be attained by classifying the entire religion as a terrorist organization (which it is) based on an orthodox reading of Islamic texts.

  52. @Lot
    @Jack D


    Forget about Clinton – what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism.
     
    And that money comes entirely from oil. Every little bit you can cut your consumption is money out of their pockets. The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models. Here are two worth considering:

    The 2015 and later F-150 is the result of billions of dollars of investment and design and retooling to be the first mainstream vehicle made primarily from aluminum rather than steel. Aluminum is stronger and lighter than steel, but harder to work with. The result is the F-150 is 700lbs lighter and thus both faster and with much better mileage. And the price starts at only $26,000 for the leftover 2015's and $26,500 for 2016's.

    http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/

    If you don't need a full-size truck, and are a home-owner with off-street parking, consider another marvel of American engineering, the Chevy Volt. It does not use any gas at all when it is in its electric range of 53 miles, the vast majority of all trips. But it has a normal gas engine for longer trips or if you just forgot to charge it. While the Tesla is an awesome vehicle too, it costs $80,000 and has a shorter range. The Volt, with the tax credit, starts at only $25,720, and in your first 100,000 miles of ownership, your spending on gas will go be cut by about $12,000.

    http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car.html

    Replies: @Smitty, @Anonymous

    The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models.

    lol Are you stuck in the 1980s?

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Anonymous

    My adult children say to watch out for Prius drivers as they are over represented in wrecks, near misses and all around clueless driving. There is a subset of drivers with a self righteous streak that is not matched by driving awareness. That can be harmful or fatal when underpowered cars attempt to keep up with or influence traffic.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The Volt, which Lot also mentioned is American made. The Prius is a "statement" vehicle like wearing Birkenstocks or shopping at Whole Foods so I don't blame you for not liking it, but there are plenty of hybrids now (including American made ones) that are otherwise identical to the non-hybrid model.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  53. @Erik Sieven
    @Jack D

    for me "vulnerable" means being at the wrong side of a AK-47. Being on a 30 year long imperialistic triumphant frenzy like Islam today means not being "vulnerable" to me.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Fine, then change “vulnerable” to “prone to recruitment by Islamic death cults”. The point is that the Saudi cult leaders know just as well as ephebophile Catholic priests who are the weak links that they can go after. Grown men with good jobs and wives and children are never the target group for either, nor are young men who feel they are right on track to achieving these things.

  54. @ic1000
    Trump's Build A Wall policy would obviously make matters worse: deprived of the right to emigrate to the US, those Saudi-inspired jihadis would be forced to remain in Kosovo, further radicalizing that society.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @e, @artichoke

    Humph. Imagine any other pol you know gaining this kind of leverage by being polite or supplicating. Frankly, this does my heart good.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/world/americas/donald-trump-mexico.html?_r=0

  55. Ivy says:
    @Anonymous
    @Lot

    The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models.

    ---

    lol Are you stuck in the 1980s?

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

    My adult children say to watch out for Prius drivers as they are over represented in wrecks, near misses and all around clueless driving. There is a subset of drivers with a self righteous streak that is not matched by driving awareness. That can be harmful or fatal when underpowered cars attempt to keep up with or influence traffic.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ivy

    Being on the phone (or even worse texting) is the great menace today and females are disproportionately represented both among Prius owners and people who have an urge to communicate while driving.

    The Prius, while no speed demon, is not particularly slow because the electric motor provides added oomph to the gas engine - it's just as fast as say a base model Corolla (which in turn is just as fast as a luxury sedan would have been 20 years ago).

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  56. @Anonymous Nephew
    Was that the once-tolerant Muslim society that harvested organs from murdered Serb prisoners?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

    "The Republic of Albania is an official candidate for accession to the European Union since June 2014."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Albania_to_the_European_Union


    OT

    Vegans climb Everest to demonstrate that vegans aren't weak. One dead, one very ill.

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/mount-everest-maria-strydom-and-robert-gropels-tragic-adventure-20160522-gp0t3p.html


    Dr Strydom and her husband Dr Gropel were passionate vegan campaigners and wanted to tackle Everest to challenge the diet's stereotypes. "It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak" Dr Strydom said in March.
     

    Replies: @e

    I don’t want to laugh; I don’t feel it speaks well of me to laugh…but yes, I had to suppress some chuckles. I suspect they are “progressives,” the strangest of all anti-science folks.

  57. @Anonymous
    @Lot

    The Prius is a really amazing technology, but I just did not like driving it and prefer American models.

    ---

    lol Are you stuck in the 1980s?

    Replies: @Ivy, @Jack D

    The Volt, which Lot also mentioned is American made. The Prius is a “statement” vehicle like wearing Birkenstocks or shopping at Whole Foods so I don’t blame you for not liking it, but there are plenty of hybrids now (including American made ones) that are otherwise identical to the non-hybrid model.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Jack D

    Hybrid sports cars and luxury sedans/SUVs have now appeared (at least among European automakers, but I think there must be Japanese and American models as well, I'm just not that familiar with them), and they are usually high-end and high-performance vehicles. Because electric engines have a flat torque curve, when combined with a powerful engine, they provide for a great driving experience with good fuel economy (at least relative to performance). Fully electric cars can be even better, but their range is more limited and refueling is always difficult (but cheap).

  58. @Ivy
    @Anonymous

    My adult children say to watch out for Prius drivers as they are over represented in wrecks, near misses and all around clueless driving. There is a subset of drivers with a self righteous streak that is not matched by driving awareness. That can be harmful or fatal when underpowered cars attempt to keep up with or influence traffic.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Being on the phone (or even worse texting) is the great menace today and females are disproportionately represented both among Prius owners and people who have an urge to communicate while driving.

    The Prius, while no speed demon, is not particularly slow because the electric motor provides added oomph to the gas engine – it’s just as fast as say a base model Corolla (which in turn is just as fast as a luxury sedan would have been 20 years ago).

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Jack D

    I have driven the Prius, and found no big problems driving it.

    Many (most?) American drivers find most European and Japanese makes (except high-powered luxury sedans etc.) under-powered, because they are often used to large displacement (often V8) engines which have very high torque in the lowest rpm ranges. These engines are not optimized for economy (very low mileage), nor power (they are not that powerful at full throttle), but they run smoothly and have a lot of torque. This means that even with the 3-speed automatics that were standard a few decades back they reacted wonderfully to the slightest touch of the accelerator. But at full throttle European or Japanese cars could often keep up with them or even overtake them. They were simply not designed for maximum output, rather for comfort, including the comfort of not having to go at full throttle.

  59. @Jack D
    @Smitty

    Mr. Green Genes, you are right. This is a totally black and white question - either you cut your carbon footprint to that of a Yanomami Indian or you keep living like Al Gore. There is no in-between possible. Millions of people each saving thousands of gallons of fuel means nothing. That's why oil prices remain near their record highs.

    PS - also don't change all the lightbulbs in your house to LED and cut your lighting costs by 80+%. That doesn't do anything either.

    Replies: @antipater_1

    Current oil prices are only about 1/3 of their record 2008 highs.

  60. Lot says:

    I just had a look at Hillary’s campaign website. Yuck, the design and colors are really bad. Even worse is the content of her agenda. My comments in CAPS, everything else is a direct quotation from her “issues” pages.

    – MAKING AMERICA LESS SAFE, SIDING WITH CRIMINALS OVER CITIZENS –

    1. FORCE BUSINESSES TO HIRE FELONS, AND LET THE FELONS AND GOVERNMENT SUE BUSINESSES THAT DON’T HIRE THEM

    Taking executive action to “ban the box” for federal employers and contractors, so that applicants have an opportunity to demonstrate their qualifications before being asked about their criminal records.

    2. LET RAPISTS AND MURDERERS CANCEL OUT YOUR VOTE

    Supporting legislation to restore voting rights to individuals who have served their sentences.

    3. IMMEDIATELY RELEASE MANY “NON-VIOLENT” FEDERAL PRISON INMATES (DON’T FORGET MANY VIOLENT FELONS TAKE A PLEA DEAL FOR A NON-VIOLENT OFFENSE THAT STILL PUTS THEM AWAY FOR A LONG TIME.)

    Applying Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 retroactively to allow current nonviolent prisoners to seek fairer sentences.

    4. PORK SPENDING FOR TOUCHY-FEELING LEFT-WING INDOCTRINATION OF POLICE

    Doubling funding for the U.S. Department of Justice “Collaborative Reform” program to provide technical assistance and training to agencies that undertake voluntary efforts toward transformational reform of their police departments. Across the country, there are police departments deploying creative and effective strategies that we can learn from and build on.

    5. INCREASE FEDERAL HARRASSMENT OF LOCAL POLICE, FORCING THEM TO RESPOND TO MORE FEDERAL SUBPOENAS AND COLLECT MORE DATA TO BE USED IN ANTI-POLICE LAWSUITS

    Strengthening the U.S. Department of Justice’s pattern or practice unit by increasing resources, working to secure subpoena power, and improving data collection for pattern or practice investigations.

    6. PROUDLY ANNOUCES SUPPORT OF VIOLENT DRUG DEALER TRAYVON MARTIN’S MOTHER

    Read more: Sybrina Fulton shares why she’s supporting Hillary

    7. DO AN END-RUN AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT BY LETTING PEOPLE SUE GUN COMPANIES OUT OF BUSINESS

    Hillary believes the gun industry must be held accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns. Hillary will lead the charge to repeal the so-called “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act,” a dangerous law that prevents victims of gun violence from holding negligent manufacturers and dealers accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns.

    – DEMOGRAPHIC DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA –

    1. DEFEND OBAMA’S EXECUTIVE AMNESTIES OF ABOUT 60% OF CURRENT ILLEGALS, AND “EXPAND” THEM FURTHER

    Defend President Obama’s executive actions to provide deportation relief for DREAMers and parents of Americans and lawful residents, and extend those actions to additional persons with sympathetic cases if Congress refuses to act.

    2. IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF UNACCOMPENIED MINORS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH CHILDREN WHO ILLEGALLY ENTER THE USA AND MAKE A BS ASYLUM CLAIM (MOST DO NOT EVEN SHOW UP TO THE FIRST ASYLUM HEARING, THEY JUST DISAPPEAR AND START WORKING ILLEGALLY OR COMMITTING CRIME)

    End family detention and close private immigrant detention centers.

    3. SIGN A RUBIO STYLE IMMEDIATE AMNESTY FOR ALL ILLEGALS PLUS A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP

    As president, Hillary will fight for comprehensive immigration reform that provides a full and equal path to citizenship, treats every person with dignity, upholds the rule of law, protects our borders and national security, and brings millions of hardworking people into the formal economy.

    4. CHANGE THE RULE THAT VIOLATORS OF IMMIGRATION LAWS CANNOT APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP UNLESS THEY GO HOME FIRST

    End the 3- and 10-year bars. Current immigration law forces families—especially those whose members have different citizenship or immigration statuses—into a heartbreaking dilemma: pursue a green card by leaving the country and your loved ones behind, or remain in the shadows. Hillary will call on Congress to repeal the 3- and 10-year bars to keep families together.

    5. MAKE MORE POOR PEOPLE WHO DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH CITIZENS SO THEY CAN CANCEL YOUR VOTE AND COLLECT ALL WELFARE BENEFITS

    there are an estimated 9 million lawful permanent residents (green card holders) in the United States who are eligible to become U.S. citizens. Hillary believes we need to do more to help the millions of people who are eligible for citizenship to take that last step. She will work to expand fee waivers so more people can get a break on costs, increase access to robust language programs to help people boost their English proficiency, and enhance outreach and education so more people are informed about their options and engaged in the process.

    – HILLARY’S PLANS TO TAX-N-STEAL THE MONEY YOU EARNED AND SPEND IT ON CRONIES, PORK, AND THE ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-AMERICA EDUCATION-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX –

    1. $20 BILLION IN “JOBS” WELFARE THAT IS “TARGETED” TO RACISTLY EXCLUDE WHITES AND ASIANS

    Her plan includes $20 billion to create youth jobs, particularly for African American, Native American, and Latino youth;

    2. $5 BILLION FOR MAKE-WORK JOBS FOR CRIMINALS

    $5 billion to create reentry programs that will help formerly incarcerated Americans get back on their feet when they return to society

    3. $25 BILLION IN SMALL BUSINESS LOANS FOR “UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES,” AKA, “NONE FOR YOU WHITE BOY”

    $25 billion to support entrepreneurship and small business growth in underserved communities.

    4. YET ANOTHER $25 BILLION IN TAXES TAKEN FROM WHITES AND GIVEN TO MINORITIES FOR HOUSING PROGRAMS

    $25 billion to remove blight from neighborhoods, remove barriers to sustainable homeownership, and connect affordable housing to economic opportunity. Centuries of housing discrimination have excluded people of color from the mainstream mortgage market and cut families off from communities with high-performing schools, safe streets, and good-paying jobs.

    5. YET ANOTHER $25 BILLION TAKEN FROM WHITE TAXPAYERS AND RACISTLY EXCLUDE THEM IN FAVOR OF “HISTORICALLY BLACK” AND “MSI” COLLEGES (MSI MEANS MINORITY SERVING INSTITUTIONS)

    A $25 billion fund will support HBCUs, HSIs, and other MSIs serving a high percentage of Pell Grant recipients to help lower the cost of attendance and improve student outcomes at low-cost, modest-endowment nonprofit private schools.

  61. One theory on why the wars are fought.

    “War is the Health of the State” by Randolph Bourne (1918)

    http://www.antiwar.com/bourne.php

    Kosovo was Clinton’s Triumph.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph

  62. @Smitty
    @Marty

    Street prostitutes aren't kosher anywhere in Nevada, but your story must date from before the opening of (closely regulated) brothels in adjacent Storey and Lyon Counties. They're within a 30 minute expedition from Reno-Sparks for G.I.s or anybody else... Assuming the guys at the base don't have access to Craig's List

    Replies: @Marty

    It would be an interesting statistics/epidemiology experiment: how much would the clap rate drop if the troops had to make a 60-mile round trip for it?

  63. @dearieme
    Another stupid war that had no relation to any vital American interest. The three stooges - Slick Willie, W, and O - have done the USA enormous harm. And now you might be about to elect little Mrs Vile. Aargh!

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Yes, I think with the election of Hildabeast, we will have the four most incompetent Presidents in our nation’s history in a row. Unfortunately, I think her election is inevitable, as the elites who truly run this country will not allow Mr. Trump to win, even if it it takes massive voter fraud.

    There may be a lot of ruin in a nation, but I think we are about to run out.

  64. Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, “Fossil fuel generating plants”? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity. The whole electric vehicle thing is nothing but robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners “save” on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn’t you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners’ electricity bills? Wouldn’t you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?

    There are no “American made” cars. There are only American-assembled cars. Most of the parts and subassemblies – from directional signal circuit breakers to tires, from computer chips to suspension parts – in so-called “American-made” cars are manufactured overseas by foreign workers in the plants “our” 0.01% “American” Globalists shipped to foreign powers to take immensely profitable advantage of “free trade” cheap foreign labor.

    I worked in the automotive aftermarket parts industry. As soon as NAFTA was signed into law, that industry’s moguls began moving their aftermarket parts manufacturing plants from the U.S. to foreign countries; they also began moving the engineering departments for specifying and QC-ing aftermarket parts, and the departments for the parts’ packaging and other necessary ancillary departments, to foreign countries (upon GATT taking effect, such transfers of operations to foreign powers accelerated, thus further increasing the unemployment of U.S. citizens). Because of the consequential “downsizing” of the U.S. aftermarket parts industry’s U.S. headquarters, manufacturing and packaging operations, I and plenty of other U.S. citizen employees were shoved out the door onto unemployment, and almost all of the buildings those operations had occupied went vacant and disused.

    • Replies: @Y.
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, “Fossil fuel generating plants”? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity."

    Burning fossils at a power station and then using the electricity to move a vehicle uses less energy than using a combustion motor on a vehicle directly, since the power station and electrical motor combination has higher efficiency. Besides, the coal and gas markets (coal especially) are much less dominated by Saudis and the other Islamic states.

    "How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners “save” on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn’t you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners’ electricity bills? Wouldn’t you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?"

    Must depend highly on the utility in question. But they'll save on service since electrical engines require less maintenance.

    Replies: @JSM

    , @Yak-15
    @Auntie Analogue

    I thought Big Tom Callahan saved Callahan autoparts and the plant in Sandusky, OH

  65. Y. says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, "Fossil fuel generating plants"? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity. The whole electric vehicle thing is nothing but robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners "save" on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn't you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners' electricity bills? Wouldn't you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?

    There are no "American made" cars. There are only American-assembled cars. Most of the parts and subassemblies - from directional signal circuit breakers to tires, from computer chips to suspension parts - in so-called "American-made" cars are manufactured overseas by foreign workers in the plants "our" 0.01% "American" Globalists shipped to foreign powers to take immensely profitable advantage of "free trade" cheap foreign labor.

    I worked in the automotive aftermarket parts industry. As soon as NAFTA was signed into law, that industry's moguls began moving their aftermarket parts manufacturing plants from the U.S. to foreign countries; they also began moving the engineering departments for specifying and QC-ing aftermarket parts, and the departments for the parts' packaging and other necessary ancillary departments, to foreign countries (upon GATT taking effect, such transfers of operations to foreign powers accelerated, thus further increasing the unemployment of U.S. citizens). Because of the consequential "downsizing" of the U.S. aftermarket parts industry's U.S. headquarters, manufacturing and packaging operations, I and plenty of other U.S. citizen employees were shoved out the door onto unemployment, and almost all of the buildings those operations had occupied went vacant and disused.

    Replies: @Y., @Yak-15

    “Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, “Fossil fuel generating plants”? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity.”

    Burning fossils at a power station and then using the electricity to move a vehicle uses less energy than using a combustion motor on a vehicle directly, since the power station and electrical motor combination has higher efficiency. Besides, the coal and gas markets (coal especially) are much less dominated by Saudis and the other Islamic states.

    “How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners “save” on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn’t you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners’ electricity bills? Wouldn’t you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?”

    Must depend highly on the utility in question. But they’ll save on service since electrical engines require less maintenance.

    • Replies: @JSM
    @Y.

    Ok, folks, fair warning: I'm about to get back up on my hobby horse.

    The answer to everything is thorium-burning, molten-salt-cooled nuclear reactors (acronym LFTR).

    No worries about greenhouse gasses (which I realize, not too many here do much worrying, anyway, but, hey, on the off chance there's something to it, LFTR solves it);

    No worries about having to procur the fuel for LFTR-generated electricity from foreign sources (plenty of thorium in America);

    No worries about the reactor making plutonium, which rogue countries will then be tempted to steal;

    No worries about meltdowns (it passively shuts itself off if anything goes awry);

    No worries about explosions (it runs at atmospheric pressure);

    No need for containment building, so cheaper to build than uranium / light water reactors;

    No worries about industrial-siting issues (since LFTR is modular and, since it's not water-cooled, reactors can be built away from population centers);

    And best of all,

    No having to spend American blood and treasure keeping the Middle East oil-shipping lanes open, or, really, having to bother ourselves with the Middle Eastern crazies, at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vzotsvvkw

  66. @Auntie Analogue
    Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, "Fossil fuel generating plants"? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity. The whole electric vehicle thing is nothing but robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners "save" on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn't you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners' electricity bills? Wouldn't you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?

    There are no "American made" cars. There are only American-assembled cars. Most of the parts and subassemblies - from directional signal circuit breakers to tires, from computer chips to suspension parts - in so-called "American-made" cars are manufactured overseas by foreign workers in the plants "our" 0.01% "American" Globalists shipped to foreign powers to take immensely profitable advantage of "free trade" cheap foreign labor.

    I worked in the automotive aftermarket parts industry. As soon as NAFTA was signed into law, that industry's moguls began moving their aftermarket parts manufacturing plants from the U.S. to foreign countries; they also began moving the engineering departments for specifying and QC-ing aftermarket parts, and the departments for the parts' packaging and other necessary ancillary departments, to foreign countries (upon GATT taking effect, such transfers of operations to foreign powers accelerated, thus further increasing the unemployment of U.S. citizens). Because of the consequential "downsizing" of the U.S. aftermarket parts industry's U.S. headquarters, manufacturing and packaging operations, I and plenty of other U.S. citizen employees were shoved out the door onto unemployment, and almost all of the buildings those operations had occupied went vacant and disused.

    Replies: @Y., @Yak-15

    I thought Big Tom Callahan saved Callahan autoparts and the plant in Sandusky, OH

  67. JSM says:
    @Y.
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Unless owners recharge their batteries with solar or wind-harvested electricity Hybrid and electric cars save no energy whatsoever.

    Where do you think the vast majority of electricity to the recharging outlets comes from? Can you say, “Fossil fuel generating plants”? Instead of burning gas or diesel in vehicle engines, oil, coal and natural gas are burned for conversion into electricity."

    Burning fossils at a power station and then using the electricity to move a vehicle uses less energy than using a combustion motor on a vehicle directly, since the power station and electrical motor combination has higher efficiency. Besides, the coal and gas markets (coal especially) are much less dominated by Saudis and the other Islamic states.

    "How much do hybrid and electric vehicle owners “save” on gas purchases when they pay the cost of the electricity they use to recharge their vehicle batteries? Wouldn’t you love to see electric and hybrid vehicle owners’ electricity bills? Wouldn’t you bet that the amount they pay for the electricity to power their cars is equal to, if not higher than, the cost of the gasoline it would have taken to power their cars conventionally?"

    Must depend highly on the utility in question. But they'll save on service since electrical engines require less maintenance.

    Replies: @JSM

    Ok, folks, fair warning: I’m about to get back up on my hobby horse.

    The answer to everything is thorium-burning, molten-salt-cooled nuclear reactors (acronym LFTR).

    No worries about greenhouse gasses (which I realize, not too many here do much worrying, anyway, but, hey, on the off chance there’s something to it, LFTR solves it);

    No worries about having to procur the fuel for LFTR-generated electricity from foreign sources (plenty of thorium in America);

    No worries about the reactor making plutonium, which rogue countries will then be tempted to steal;

    No worries about meltdowns (it passively shuts itself off if anything goes awry);

    No worries about explosions (it runs at atmospheric pressure);

    No need for containment building, so cheaper to build than uranium / light water reactors;

    No worries about industrial-siting issues (since LFTR is modular and, since it’s not water-cooled, reactors can be built away from population centers);

    And best of all,

    No having to spend American blood and treasure keeping the Middle East oil-shipping lanes open, or, really, having to bother ourselves with the Middle Eastern crazies, at all.

  68. iSteveFan says:
    @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    Though every wall could presumably be surmounted by someone, calculating the effectiveness of the wall is more like a calculus type rate-of-flow problem. Currently the illegals stream across the border at their leisure. An effective would would severely cut down on this rate of flow which would reduce the number of crossers dramatically and allow our border agents an easier time to focus on those few who actually make it across.

  69. @tyrone
    and the ghost of Milosevic says…… I told you so.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    exactly

  70. @rod1963
    @reiner Tor

    Well if it's 50 feet tall and there are border guards on the other end, they won't be crossing. As it is with the current wall built by Bush, the vast majority do not cross were the wall is but where it is not.This shows the wall does work.

    Add in ground sensors and aggressive patrolling and you cut illegal immigration to a trickle.

    This shows walls do work. They also certainly work for the Israelis and Saudis as well.

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew, @SteveRogers42

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @SteveRogers42



    Nobody gets injured.

     

    I know, but remember the technology is still in its infancy. Future models will be have signifigantly increased power and will be more effective.
  71. @ic1000
    Trump's Build A Wall policy would obviously make matters worse: deprived of the right to emigrate to the US, those Saudi-inspired jihadis would be forced to remain in Kosovo, further radicalizing that society.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @e, @artichoke

    You don’t solve the problem by appeasing Muslim immigration. Then you get to the 20% or so level, and they become militant. You have to build walls and say no. Guarded walls. They can be beaten with superior planning and military organization.

    They don’t radicalize because you’re mean to them. They do that anyway. Their holy books tell them to, especially Sunni, but also Shia. Most people aren’t that energetic, but one can always put together a jihad force once the population gets some concentration.

  72. @reiner Tor
    @ic1000

    It must also be noted that the wall would never work even if it were built, because any wall that's n feet tall will be matched by a ladder that is n+1 feet tall. It's similar to the law of physics how Achilles could never overtake the turtle, discovered by Einstein.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Immigrant from former USSR, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Abe, @rod1963, @Lurker, @iSteveFan, @artichoke

    A wall is a defensible perimeter. You still have to guard it by guards on site, cameras, drones (another form of camera, presumably they won’t carry ordnance). Hungary built a wall and has guards patrolling it.

    The purpose of the wall is to slow them down enough to catch them. A good plan is a double wall with a usable road between, maybe 15 foot high walls with razor wire or just broken glass on top, with guards in vehicles patrolling the roads, and with cameras and other detectors also there. The would-be crossers don’t know where the cameras are, and when something is detected, the guards whiz over there and capture the crossers. Maybe a prepositioned teargas canister could be detonated remotely to slow them down a bit more. Bring them to a station, iris scan or fingerprint, compare with database, then decide what to do with them.

    If first time, back where they came from. After that, some sort of prison arrangement I guess.

  73. @Lot
    I see VP choices as helping Trump and hurting Hillary.

    Trump I think will either choose Portman or Ernst. They meet the basic requirements of being qualified and having voted against the Rubio amnesty bill. They also both have won elections in swing states. They both work as olive branches, Portman to the GOPe/Bushies and Ernst to the Cruz-voting evangelicals. The very gay MSM will love Portman's gay son. And Ernst will create a Palin-level enthusiasm for SoCons and probably kill most support for #NeverTrump.

    Gingrich is supposed to be the favorite, but he is too old, too flaky, has three decades worth of saying random stupid things on camera, and does not help with any swing states. I know Uncle Sheldon likes him, hopefully he's not trying to pressure Trump on the issue. There is also no real dispute Newt dumped one wife when she had cancer, the cheated for years on the next wife with a staffer.

    For Hillary, no real sector of the Dem establishment other than Wall Street liberals and elderly white women truly like her. And there is no obvious choice that does not disappoint much of the winning Obama coalition. Hispanics want Hoolian, but he is an empty suit with gay face and will turn off blacks and whites. (Tom Perez seems a better choice if she wants to go hispanic, but he's not a Mexican).

    Brown is probably the best choice because he is white, male, and has a gruff blue collar persona. He's perfect to offset Trump's strength with whites in the Great Lakes and Pennsylvania and bring home Bernie voters. But minorities will be disappointed. Warren will also help bring home young Bernie voters and white liberal turnout, but she's white and a double-female ticket will turn off working class males.

    Replies: @artichoke

    I agree with your ideas about Trump’s VP, but Portman said a month ago he wasn’t interested. No idea how firmly he meant it. It seems like an attractive opportunity, because if you join Trump, you can win. Much better than being McCain’s or Romney’s VP pick.

    Gingrich has tons of enemies and he’s not very honest. I would be surprised if Trump even likes him.

    I hope Hillary doesn’t pick Castro because I can’t stand to look at him or listen to him. He’s just a bad human being.

  74. @Arclight
    Is there a single place on the planet where strictly observed Islam has resulted in anything other than violence and repression? When I was a child at the end of the Cold War, it was not considered controversial to vocalize the observation that Communism resulted in widespread poverty and oppression wherever it became the organizing principal of society. Yet today to make the same observation about Islam is to be accused of racism or xenophobia.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    That’s because Mohammed, a warlord, bundled his new “religion” with guidelines for every aspect of life, including lengthy instructions on fighting tribal wars.

    It’s gets the pass Communism didn’t get because it’s a “religion”.

  75. Lot says:

    I agree with your ideas about Trump’s VP, but Portman said a month ago he wasn’t interested. No idea how firmly he meant it.

    I don’t think he meant it. Almost nobody says “I’m interested in being VP.” If you don’t get picked, you look like a loser. The ones who truly don’t say “I do not want to be considered and I would not accept” or something along that line.

    Saying “I am focused on the job the voters elected me to do” is another way to say you do want the job.

    VP would also let Portman bail on the Senate race he has about a 60% chance of losing.

  76. @SteveRogers42
    @rod1963

    Plus, these:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

    Nobody gets injured. Nobody gets across.

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    Nobody gets injured.

    I know, but remember the technology is still in its infancy. Future models will be have signifigantly increased power and will be more effective.

  77. @oh its just me too

    blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology
     
    They always get their licks in eh? See, if we elect trump or sing Christmas carols, we'll turn into saudi arabia, but if let in millions of 'migrant/vibrant' muslims we'll become a multicultural paradise like moorish spain.

    Side note, there's a great series about Isabel and the reconquest of Spain - it was made for Spanish TV, and hard to find over here..

    http://decider.com/2015/08/27/isabel-spanish-tudors/

    don't expect it to get over here - it defies the narrative. but its a great series. the woman who plays Isabel - Michelle Jenner ain't shabby. (she is spanish her father was English hence the name)

    Replies: @Clyde, @jill

    Side note, there’s a great series about Isabel and the reconquest of Spain – it was made for Spanish TV, and hard to find over here..
    http://decider.com/2015/08/27/isabel-spanish-tudors/
    don’t expect it to get over here – it defies the narrative. but its a great series. the woman who plays Isabel – Michelle Jenner ain’t shabby. (she is spanish her father was English hence the name)

    Seems to be very available right here. Seasons one and two for free and in high resolution. I intend to give it a go. Thanks! Season three is also there.
    https://www.dramafever.com/drama/4221/2/Isabel_-_Season_1/?ap=1

  78. VP would also let Portman bail on the Senate race he has about a 60% chance of losing.

    Portman doesn’t add strength to the ticket.

    Trump has enemies within his party, so he needs to block those enemies, and picking a VP who is more appealing to his enemies than Trump himself results in the Mayberry Machiavellis spending too much effort on schemes to remove Trump. Trump needs someone who will carry on Trumpism if Trump is removed from office. This nixes Portman, Gingrich, and most other established politicians.

    Trump can bring expertise into his administration through his cabinet appointments and through his Chief of Staff. Gingrich knows the players, knows the game, knows where the bodies are buried, so he’d be an excellent Chief of Staff.

    Trump needs someone who is “his man” in the VP office. A way to make a person “his man” is to elevate the candidate’s career. Kasich, Portman, Gingrich, Christie are too independent of Trump. Kris Kobach is not.

    Trump is walking a fine line now that he’s in General Election mode, he was hardline on immigration in the primaries and now he’s going to try to sooth feathers, which means that his rhetoric is going to be softer and this is going to worry the immigration hardliners. Mickey Kaus is already worried about Trump backtracking on immigration like he’s doing with the Muslim Ban. Add Kobach to the ticket and Trump’s choice sends a signal on immigration that personnel are key, so along with Kobach there will be Stephen Miller and Senator Sessions. This troika is not going to roll-over on immigration thus giving Trump a freer hand to talk gently with all the hothouse flowers out there.

    From Kobach’s perspective, I’m thinking that this results in him leapfrogging hundreds of aspiring politicians and because it’s the Don’s doing, loyalty to the Don is expected on whatever it is that Trump actually wants to do with Trumpism.

    The VP slot is a weird position. High in symbolism, low in operational authority. Having watched Kobach debate on immigration, I don’t have any doubt that he’d be formidable in the VP debates and on the campaign trail.

    Everyone with stature comes with baggage and because Trump is trying to distance himself from Establishment Republicanism, the last thing he needs is baggage. That appeals to the non-Republicans. What appeals to the Republicans is that Kobach hits many of their ideological sweet spots without bringing national recognition and baggage. People already have opinions on Gingrich, Portman, Christie and I’m not sure what these guys bring, in terms of political capital, that appeals to people who are being swayed by Trump for they represent the old Republican Party that alienated these very voters. The Democrats have a harder time attacking someone like Kobach because he doesn’t have a high profile. The lack of high profile is immaterial to Trump because a nomination gives him de facto high profile plus it guarantees weeks of talking heads talking about Trump reaching down below the top tier and pulling out a star player. Moreover, it let’s Trump set the media agenda after the announcement because the media is unprepared for someone like Kobach and so while they’re scrambling to develop a narrative, Trump is already pushing out his narrative.

    I can’t see any upside for Trump in choosing an established politician, now he takes on the baggage of whomever he chooses and they have an independent power base and they could undermine Trump within the Party.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @TangoMan

    The traditional approach was to put some non-threatening third-rater (Truman, Quayle, Biden, Agnew) in the VP's office - the last thing you wanted was to put in another alpha who actually wanted to and was capable of being President. This is a good way to end up dead (JFK/LBJ) or to have the VP running things behind your back (Cheney) . The danger is that the third-rater may end up actually being the President. Imagine President Palin and her white trash gang turning the White House into a Kardashian reality show.

  79. “Wahhabism — the conservative ideology”

    It’s a radical ideology.

    I guess the Serbs’-organ-harvesting gangsters of the ‘oppressed’ secular KLA made fertile recruits for Jihadism.
    I remember when GW Bush boasted of creating an Islamic State in the heart of Europe.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Simon in London


    It’s a radical ideology.
     
    Such terms as "conservative," "liberal," "radical," "progressive" and "reactionary" are truly useful only if there is a clear frame of reference as to the object of their related verbs, i.e., what/whom one is trying to conserve, liberate from, uproot, progress toward/away from or react against. Journalists, academics and polemicists alike routinely abuse these terms by obscuring said object.
  80. @oh its just me too

    blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology
     
    They always get their licks in eh? See, if we elect trump or sing Christmas carols, we'll turn into saudi arabia, but if let in millions of 'migrant/vibrant' muslims we'll become a multicultural paradise like moorish spain.

    Side note, there's a great series about Isabel and the reconquest of Spain - it was made for Spanish TV, and hard to find over here..

    http://decider.com/2015/08/27/isabel-spanish-tudors/

    don't expect it to get over here - it defies the narrative. but its a great series. the woman who plays Isabel - Michelle Jenner ain't shabby. (she is spanish her father was English hence the name)

    Replies: @Clyde, @jill

    Good point. You may want to read a just published book “The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews Under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain” by Darío Fernández-Morera

    Here he talks about his book:

  81. @Simon in London
    "Wahhabism — the conservative ideology"

    It's a radical ideology.

    I guess the Serbs'-organ-harvesting gangsters of the 'oppressed' secular KLA made fertile recruits for Jihadism.
    I remember when GW Bush boasted of creating an Islamic State in the heart of Europe.

    Replies: @Nico

    It’s a radical ideology.

    Such terms as “conservative,” “liberal,” “radical,” “progressive” and “reactionary” are truly useful only if there is a clear frame of reference as to the object of their related verbs, i.e., what/whom one is trying to conserve, liberate from, uproot, progress toward/away from or react against. Journalists, academics and polemicists alike routinely abuse these terms by obscuring said object.

  82. @Lot
    I am feeling awfully fuzzy and optimistic today as I contemplate the fact that we may be less than a year away from having a president who will end Muslim and other dysgenic immigration, opposes stupid middle east wars but loves our military and loves Israel, and will stop the left from taking over the Supreme Court and the few remaining Circuit Courts they do not control.

    Trump is now, for the first time, officially in the lead with poll averages!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    These are all things Trump can do his first 100 days. For the Supreme Court, he may have a Dem senate majority stopping him from appointing a young Scalia, but there are plenty of other bland and inoffensive Republicans who can get the mere 1 or 2 or so Dem votes to be approved.

    For the wall, he already has a great plan to start: immediately impose fees of Mexican remittances and use them to fund the parts of the border fence that are authorized to be built but were never provided funding. Maybe other standard immigration process fees can be increased. As long as the law does not have a specific amount, the implication is the amount is set by the exec branch.

    Likewise, current law already gives the president the power to suspend immigration from specific countries. I doubt Trump can specifically get away with "no Muslim immigration." But 98% as good is "no somalia, saudi, yemeni, syrian, pakistani, etc immigration."

    Replies: @Marty, @Perspective

    For the sake of the US and the world I would love to see a Trump presidency. Not just for spite against the PC crowd (though that alone would make me want to vote for him), but for his immigration policy. As a Canadian though, I’m worried that should Trump limit Muslim immigration this will cause a flood of them to come here. Canada already receives nearly as many Pakistani and Afghan immigrants as the US does, even though our population is much smaller. Only hope is that in four years we elect a Conservative government that will align our policies with those of Trump. I sincerely doubt that will happen, Canada will become another Sweden.

  83. @Smitty
    If Kosovo was "once-tolerant" that's news to me. I remember in the 90s reading it was the home base of organized crime in SE Europe (which I suppose demonstrates a kind of tolerance). The FBI claimed they couldn't find enough Albanian translators.

    Replies: @Clyde

    If Kosovo was “once-tolerant” that’s news to me. I remember in the 90s reading it was the home base of organized crime in SE Europe (which I suppose demonstrates a kind of tolerance).

    Like in the movie “Taken” though the town all the scummy crooks were from was in Albania. Not much different from Kosovo as far as sending a very very nasty criminal element to Europe. They drive the Italian mafia out of business everywhere. They are so vicious and evil

  84. @TangoMan
    VP would also let Portman bail on the Senate race he has about a 60% chance of losing.

    Portman doesn't add strength to the ticket.

    Trump has enemies within his party, so he needs to block those enemies, and picking a VP who is more appealing to his enemies than Trump himself results in the Mayberry Machiavellis spending too much effort on schemes to remove Trump. Trump needs someone who will carry on Trumpism if Trump is removed from office. This nixes Portman, Gingrich, and most other established politicians.

    Trump can bring expertise into his administration through his cabinet appointments and through his Chief of Staff. Gingrich knows the players, knows the game, knows where the bodies are buried, so he'd be an excellent Chief of Staff.

    Trump needs someone who is "his man" in the VP office. A way to make a person "his man" is to elevate the candidate's career. Kasich, Portman, Gingrich, Christie are too independent of Trump. Kris Kobach is not.

    Trump is walking a fine line now that he's in General Election mode, he was hardline on immigration in the primaries and now he's going to try to sooth feathers, which means that his rhetoric is going to be softer and this is going to worry the immigration hardliners. Mickey Kaus is already worried about Trump backtracking on immigration like he's doing with the Muslim Ban. Add Kobach to the ticket and Trump's choice sends a signal on immigration that personnel are key, so along with Kobach there will be Stephen Miller and Senator Sessions. This troika is not going to roll-over on immigration thus giving Trump a freer hand to talk gently with all the hothouse flowers out there.

    From Kobach's perspective, I'm thinking that this results in him leapfrogging hundreds of aspiring politicians and because it's the Don's doing, loyalty to the Don is expected on whatever it is that Trump actually wants to do with Trumpism.

    The VP slot is a weird position. High in symbolism, low in operational authority. Having watched Kobach debate on immigration, I don't have any doubt that he'd be formidable in the VP debates and on the campaign trail.

    Everyone with stature comes with baggage and because Trump is trying to distance himself from Establishment Republicanism, the last thing he needs is baggage. That appeals to the non-Republicans. What appeals to the Republicans is that Kobach hits many of their ideological sweet spots without bringing national recognition and baggage. People already have opinions on Gingrich, Portman, Christie and I'm not sure what these guys bring, in terms of political capital, that appeals to people who are being swayed by Trump for they represent the old Republican Party that alienated these very voters. The Democrats have a harder time attacking someone like Kobach because he doesn't have a high profile. The lack of high profile is immaterial to Trump because a nomination gives him de facto high profile plus it guarantees weeks of talking heads talking about Trump reaching down below the top tier and pulling out a star player. Moreover, it let's Trump set the media agenda after the announcement because the media is unprepared for someone like Kobach and so while they're scrambling to develop a narrative, Trump is already pushing out his narrative.

    I can't see any upside for Trump in choosing an established politician, now he takes on the baggage of whomever he chooses and they have an independent power base and they could undermine Trump within the Party.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The traditional approach was to put some non-threatening third-rater (Truman, Quayle, Biden, Agnew) in the VP’s office – the last thing you wanted was to put in another alpha who actually wanted to and was capable of being President. This is a good way to end up dead (JFK/LBJ) or to have the VP running things behind your back (Cheney) . The danger is that the third-rater may end up actually being the President. Imagine President Palin and her white trash gang turning the White House into a Kardashian reality show.

  85. @bomag

    — much of that time under the watch of American officials —
     
    In service to The Other; that pretty well sums up our government's efforts on the behalf of its citizenry.

    Replies: @M_Young

    “In service to The Other; that pretty well sums up our government’s efforts on the behalf of its citizenry.”

    Perhaps you didn’t catch the 60 minutes puff piece on/with Valerie Jarret, or note that the longtime head of La Raza is Obama’s chief domestic policy advisor, or that a ‘gay’ man is now head of the Army.

    Our government is The Other, in one of its manifestations or another.

  86. @Jack D
    @Ivy

    Being on the phone (or even worse texting) is the great menace today and females are disproportionately represented both among Prius owners and people who have an urge to communicate while driving.

    The Prius, while no speed demon, is not particularly slow because the electric motor provides added oomph to the gas engine - it's just as fast as say a base model Corolla (which in turn is just as fast as a luxury sedan would have been 20 years ago).

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    I have driven the Prius, and found no big problems driving it.

    Many (most?) American drivers find most European and Japanese makes (except high-powered luxury sedans etc.) under-powered, because they are often used to large displacement (often V8) engines which have very high torque in the lowest rpm ranges. These engines are not optimized for economy (very low mileage), nor power (they are not that powerful at full throttle), but they run smoothly and have a lot of torque. This means that even with the 3-speed automatics that were standard a few decades back they reacted wonderfully to the slightest touch of the accelerator. But at full throttle European or Japanese cars could often keep up with them or even overtake them. They were simply not designed for maximum output, rather for comfort, including the comfort of not having to go at full throttle.

  87. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The Volt, which Lot also mentioned is American made. The Prius is a "statement" vehicle like wearing Birkenstocks or shopping at Whole Foods so I don't blame you for not liking it, but there are plenty of hybrids now (including American made ones) that are otherwise identical to the non-hybrid model.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Hybrid sports cars and luxury sedans/SUVs have now appeared (at least among European automakers, but I think there must be Japanese and American models as well, I’m just not that familiar with them), and they are usually high-end and high-performance vehicles. Because electric engines have a flat torque curve, when combined with a powerful engine, they provide for a great driving experience with good fuel economy (at least relative to performance). Fully electric cars can be even better, but their range is more limited and refueling is always difficult (but cheap).

  88. @Jack D
    Forget about Clinton - what this shows is that Saudi Arabia is the #1 driver of Islamic terrorism. The most insane thing that the West has done in the last 100 years was to take a fanatical but impoverished desert cult, promote them to the leadership of an entire country in favor of the traditional (and relatively moderate) Hashemite dynasty and then given them TRILLIONS of dollars of oil money with which to spread their crazy version of Islam and then allow them to open mosques and madrassahs to spread their hateful ideology all over the world (especially in places with vulnerable Islamic youth) in the guise of religious freedom. Each step along the way made sense (sort of, not really) but when you combine all of these factors together you get global terrorism on steroids and yet the Saudis are still supposed to be our "friends".

    And due to the impoverishment of most Muslim populations (except where there is oil) which in turn caused by their low IQ and inbreeding, high birth rates, corruption and overall failure to thrive in conditions of modernity, there are vulnerable Muslim youths all over the globe, both in Muslim majority countries and also in alienated Muslim populations in the West.

    The statues of Clinton all look like department store dummies. It shows you how hard it is to do realistic representational art well without it looking like kitsch.

    Replies: @Lot, @Erik Sieven, @Bill B.

    As Ed West suggested on Twitter: When the British had an empire they enabled Irish missionaries to spread the word; the Americans have the Saudis fulfilling the same role…

  89. “in the 17 years since an American-led intervention wrested tiny Kosovo from Serbian oppression”

    Serbian oppression? Kosovo was a Serbian province, which ended up being inhabited by a majority of Albanians. If anyone was/is mistreated there it was/is the Serbian minority.

    We should be glad Mexicans are not Muslim, or the same thing would happen in California.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Dumbo

    AFAIK half the population was already Albanian by the time it became a Serbian province.

  90. @Dumbo
    "in the 17 years since an American-led intervention wrested tiny Kosovo from Serbian oppression"

    Serbian oppression? Kosovo was a Serbian province, which ended up being inhabited by a majority of Albanians. If anyone was/is mistreated there it was/is the Serbian minority.

    We should be glad Mexicans are not Muslim, or the same thing would happen in California.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    AFAIK half the population was already Albanian by the time it became a Serbian province.

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