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As I’ve been pointing out for years, the main feature distinguishing Rotherham from many other cities in England where Muslim pimps also abuse underage English girls while the cops look away because they don’t want to be seen as bigoted against Pakistanis, is that Rotherham commissioned an Official Report, published in 2014, that journalists could quote from without being accused of Trafficking in Racist Stereotypes.

I had been hearing about this pattern for years, and had therefore published a Taki’s column documenting the problem in 2013, a year before Rotherham became notorious. But I’m the kind of journalist who Trafficks in Racist Stereotypes (i.e., I don’t censor what I write based on Intersectional Who-Whom considerations). The next year, the Rotherham Report made it respectable for other journalists to notice that there was a problem, although they tended to imply the problem was in Rotherham rather national.

Now, a half dozen years after the Rotherham Report, there’s another official report out, this one on Manchester.

From The Independent (UK):

Fears over race relations affected police probe into child sex grooming gang, report suggests

Investigation identified 57 potential victims and 97 suspects in Manchester – but almost no action taken amid fears of inciting racial hatred

Colin Drury @colin__drury
5 hours ago

Dozens of teenage girls suspected of being groomed and abused in Manchester by gangs of men from Asian backgrounds were failed because police feared upsetting race relations, a new probe has suggested.

Victims repeatedly alerted officers about sexual assaults, giving names and addresses of those involved, but, in almost all cases, no action was taken.

Now, a bombshell report suggests Greater Manchester Police and the city council shelved an investigation into what was happening at least partially because of the “many sensitive community issues” they felt faced with.

“Concerns were expressed about the risk of proactive tactics or the incitement of racial hatred,” the 145-page independent review states.

And it adds: “The authorities knew that many [victims] were being subjected to the most profound abuse and exploitation but did not protect them from the perpetrators. This is a depressingly familiar picture and has been seen in many other towns and cities across the country.”

The verdict forms part of the probe – carried out by childcare expert Malcolm Newsam and former Cambridgeshire Police detective Gary Ridgway​ – into how sexual child exploitation was dealt with in the city in the early and mid-2000s.

It centres on Operation Augusta, which was set up in 2004 after the death of Victoria Agoglia, 15, a girl who reported being raped but who died from a suspected overdose soon after she alerted authorities to the abuse.

Augusta subsequently identified at least 57 victims – mainly white girls aged from 12 to 16 – and some 97 potential suspects involved in grooming across the region.

But senior officers at GMP under-resourced the investigation before closing it down completely with the backing of Manchester City Council. Only three people were convicted of related crimes at court.

The force had, at that time, just finished dealing with unrelated cases involving the Kurdish community that had created severe tensions and officers were keen not to be seen targeting another minority group, it is suggested.

But in closing the investigation, the report states, “very few of the relevant perpetrators were brought to justice and neither were their activities disrupted”.

Diversity is our strength.

Question: The British newspapers all have the report, but is the reported posted online yet for the public to read?

Update: Here is the webpage for how to get to the report. And here is the PDF of the

Independent assurance review of the effectiveness of multi-agency responses to child sexual exploitation in Greater Manchester

iSteve commenter James N. Kennett adds:

The report was not online when the newspapers went to press. Buried in Google results is this page:

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/child-sexual-exploitation-in-greater-manchester/

which provides links to the report:

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2569/operation_augusta_january_2020_digital_final.pdf

and to a Word document that is a “a two page appendix to the press release”:

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2570/appendix-to-cse-press-release-2-page-summary.docx

The report provides a number of reasons for failure. In addition to the “many sensitive community issues”, it reports that police had been given targets for property crimes such as burglaries and car theft.

The Guardian reports “Operation Augusta was shut down prematurely partly because senior officers had prioritised solving burglaries and car crime.” It does not discuss what the other partial reasons might have been, not does it mention what the perpetrators had in common. You can search the article in vain for “Muslim”, “Asian”, or even “commun*”, “sensitiv*”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/14/prosecute-officers-says-greater-manchester-abuse-whistleblower

The Leftoid press, police, social workers, and politicians all seem to think that when people find out about minority organised crimes, they will take to the streets with pitchforks and torches, and commit pogroms against innocent people who happen to have the same race as the criminals.

Yet, despite official cover-ups lasting over a decade, the public has found out about multiple instances of organised mass rape of children by Muslim gangs, and the feared pogroms have not materialised. Please, please, can we have law enforcement once again? The notions of equality before the law, and serving the public without fear or favour, were once the foundation of policing, and it is shameful that the British authorities ever felt they were dispensable.

 
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  1. Yes Operation Augusta, looking into the raping of near 100 underage girls and killing of one due to her big mouth, was “under-resourced”. While that was going on, that nice white British college boy who scored with a young lady in the dorm room and forgot to carry her books the next day, as she kinda regretted it anyway because that hunky guy who dumped her a month back texted her again, may readily be accused of rape, and that investigation, by the whole damn college, will be resourced like the race to the freakin’ moon!

    Anarcho-Tyranny – the Anarchy is for the other guy, I’m sorry to say. Don’t ask for whom the Tyranny rages. It rages for YOU.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  2. Anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:

    The result of white race turned into a commodity.

    Whether it’s Abdul or Jeffrey Epstein, whiteness is something to buy and sell. Because white people are commodity or property, they cannot own property. How can a car own a car? Only humans can own cars. One might say white can still own things as individuals, but without collective ownership, there is no continuity, no power. After all, Israel belongs to all Jews as a people, not to Jews as individuals. And Mecca belongs to all Muslims. Even prince harry is just a dog owned by Meghan the wench. Britishness is no longer an identity or inheritance but a membership, and anyone can become a member. It appears British men and women emulate pop culture. Many of these girls were abandoned by their doped-up fathers, and their mothers are glued to the Telly while their girls twerk to junk culture. The future turned out even worse than CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

    Libertarians obsessed about property to the point where they turned people into property.

    White girls exist to be consumed. White males exist to be used as attack dogs in wars abroad.

    There was a news story about a Chinese ‘gay’ couple who rented a white woman’s womb to create a child for them. No sense of outrage in the reportage.

  3. Alden says:

    I assume this thread will become like every other thread about sex and other crimes inflicted on White women and girls. Endless blaming of the victims and chining in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.

    I don’t know why UNZ writers bother posting articles about crimes against White women and girls. It just gives the misogynist women hating old codgers an opportunity to heap much hate upon White women and girls. Blame the White woman or girl victim is the mantra of the men of UNZ.

    Harbinger will also join in about the wonderful ness legal sex with 6 year old girls in ancient times.

    Another woman and girl hating festival from the men of UNZ. What else is new?

  4. jon says:
    @anon

    Don’t just post links without quoting the good stuff:

    Because Myles Brady-Davis, who is transmasculine and uses they/them pronouns, carried and gave birth to Zayn, they would be misgendered as the mother on her birth certificate. Precious Brady-Davis is a transgender woman and the baby’s mother.

    So a man married a woman, got her pregnant, and she had a baby – but they are brave, because they did it all while wearing the other one’s clothes.

    Kara Ingelhart, a Lambda Legal attorney who helped the Brady-Davis family, said it was a safety issue.
    According to a 2015 survey by the National Center for Transgender Equality, nearly a third of transgender people said they’ve been harassed, denied benefits or services, discriminated against or assaulted when they showed an identity document with an incorrect name or gender marker.

    But if you look at the actual study:

    Two percent (2%) of people who showed IDs with a name and gender that did not match the gender they present in were assaulted or attacked.

    And remember that assault just means threatened, there is no actual contact. So probably less than one percent of interactions (and this is self-reported) involve any actual violence, but this is a safety issue.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  5. anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    (Tangent precedes bolded text)

    Question: is it just pimping and rape? Is it just Muslims? Is it just Britain?

    Of course it’s no on all three counts: the same forces that are at play in this situation – “It’s bigoted to suspect this Pakistani of robbery, he might have a perfectly innocent reason to be wearing that mask and waving that gun around” – are at play in all white countries and for all kinds of groups. (E.g. gays more likely to be pederasts, trannies more likely to commit murder, etc, etc.) Nothing new under the sun, as the man said.

    Bringing the focus back in, and with the above in mind, I wanted to comment specifically that it’s not just sex crimes that British police are uninterested when the perpetrators are Muslim, I’m sure. A journalist named Andrew Gilligan, I remember, writing for The Telegraph I believe, used to write about political corruption and election rigging in the London borough of Tower Hamlets, once it had been taken over by Bangladeshis.

    Of course, no-one was interested in that, either. Without wishing to discount the effect of cultural masochism, we ought also to consider plain old bribery and corruption: if Mexican drug dealers can bribe American policemen, surely Pakistani drug dealers can bribe British ones. And if money from Pakistani organised crime is filtering through into politics, and if the vote-rigging efforts of Pakistani politicians is useful to British political parties, and so on, and so on… well, there might be more mundane, grubby reasons for the official silence.

    Finally, and completely off-topic, I had an idea for an iSteve-ey reality TV show: use drones to perform parachute drops of cameras and microphones into the trees of North Sentinel Island! As long as the natives don’t notice, the Indian gov’t won’t mind. It’d be like Survivor.

    Season 2: chuck in an old coke bottle and see what happens

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  6. JimDandy says:

    How Anti-White Structures and Narratives Dehumanize and Objectify Caucasian Girls and Create an Institutionalized Brown-on-White Rape Culture.

    A Phd thesis not currently being written and not appearing in a prestigious academic journal soon or ever.

    But I guarantee you that this latest, inexcusable outrage will ultimately be blamed on white racism/Brexit.

  7. This abuse and the police investigations or non-investigations were around 2002-2005, a time during which

    a) there’d been major muslim riots in Oldham (where a white teenager called Gavin Hopley was beaten to death after going into a muslim area – no one’s ever been convicted), Bradford and Blackburn and the police were scared there’d be more.

    b) the British National Party was getting a lot of votes, and also a lot of legal attention, with its people being charged with “hate speech” offences, some of which related to their allegations of muslim grooming and police turning a blind eye.

    c) the daring, radical, anti-establishment Channel Four pulled, on the advice of West Yorkshire Police, the “Edge Of The City” documentary on grooming gangs in West Yorkshire – because local elections were coming up, and viewers might be tempted to vote BNP.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3602854.stm

    “The most controversial of these (cases) witnesses authorities and parents trying to stop groups of young men who are grooming girls as young as 11 for sex.

    Although none of the officials in the film raise race as the issue in these predatory relationships, the filmmakers make it perfectly clear that the abusers are predominantly Asian, and all of the abused girls are white.

    So given the unprecedented access to Bradford social services, did the filmmakers use it responsibly?

    Or did they produce a film that, as its critics would have it, provided ammunition to racists?”

    • Thanks: Hail, Mr McKenna
  8. If you read British media, you’ll see one of these type of reports comes out once every few months. It’s not even shocking anymore.

    Back in the early 2000s, the BNP (British National Party) made allegations that there were large-scale child prostitution networks being run by Muslim migrants. It took the British media about a decade to notice this.

    It’s not just Pakistanis. All the Muslim subgroups (Arabs, North Africans, Kurds, Afghans, Persians, East Africans, etc) are wildly overrepresented in these grooming networks. Pakistanis just happen to be the largest Muslim subgroup.

    These grooming networks aren’t even just contained to the UK. There are reports of these type of networks in places like Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, and various other parts of Northern Europe. However, much of their media isn’t in English, do we don’t hear these stories too often.

    Muslim sexual violence is a huge thing in much of Northern Europe, from harassment to rape to child prostitution. It’s almost as if Muslims are fighting a low-intensity war against the White European population….

    By the way, we can’t actually stop this transformation. Just ask Barbara Lerner Spectre. Barbara Lerner Spectre moved from America to Israel. Then she moved to Sweden to promote ethnic transformation.

    You need to watch this 1-minute video below.

    TLDR: Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. This ethnic transformation must take place. Jews (such as Barbara Lerner Spectre) will be at the center of this. Jews might be resented for this, so we have to be careful to fight anti-Semitism. There might be some more Rotherhams unforunately. Can’t have a omlette without breaking a few eggs though!

  9. When will the outraged fathers of Britain form a narwhal tusk posse and take down these grooming gangs the old-fashioned way?

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  10. @Anonymous

    There was a news story about a Chinese ‘gay’ couple who rented a white woman’s womb to create a child for them.

    “Come on guys, there are children around. Why don’t you two go rent a room?”

    [9 months later:]

    “I just spent 2 hour at the gym buffing up for you, I work for an hour on the bouirrabaisse, spend 46 buck on your favolite chardonnay, and now you bling home this, what is it, a baby?! Eeek!”

    “Oh, clap, I thought you said ‘rent a womb’!”

    • LOL: Rob
  11. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    I assume this thread will become like every other thread about sex and other crimes inflicted on White women and girls. Endless blaming of the victims and chining in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.

    Ok, I’ll watch the thread with you. If you are wrong, will you admit it?

  12. Hail says: • Website
    @Alden

    You are, I believe, referring primarily to Epstein threads in summer 2019.

    I remember some comments something like what you describe, but I don’t think they were representative and the y got plenty of pushback. I would be surprised if as many as one-in-five commenters made, or agreed with, comments even approaching your line “blaming of the victims and chiming in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.”

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Alden
  13. notsaying says:

    Concerns were expressed about the risk of proactive tactics or the incitement of racial hatred,” the 145-page independent review states.

    And it adds: “The authorities knew that many [victims] were being subjected to the most profound abuse and exploitation but did not protect them from the perpetrators. This is a depressingly familiar picture and has been seen in many other towns and cities across the country.”

    This does not compute.

    The problems that the police and the municipal government would have had in Manchester with “race relations” would have been in no way equal to the problems that the targeted girls had with being abused.

    What would have happened in Manchester, exactly? Some street protests? Some nasty messages in social media. Angry people showing up in front of police station and where their city council meets? So what?

    Nothing was done because people didn’t want to face the truth or make others face the truth. What cowardice.

    I also think that if the victims weren’t children that more would have been done.

    This is a sad and unnecessary betrayal of children by adults that was completely unnecessary.

  14. Hail says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Back in the early 2000s, the BNP (British National Party) made allegations that there were large-scale child prostitution networks being run by Muslim migrants

    Then-BNP leader Nick Griffin, who was for a time a sitting Member of the European Parliament, was the highest-profile figure in the entire 2000s to have named, spoken out about, and denounced, the Muslim rape gang problem. A lot of people seemed to blame Griffin for the decline of the BNP, but whatever the truth to that, there is no changing that Griffin spoke out publicly on the Muslim rape gang problem. The only major political figure to do so.

    Someone might be able to find the earliest case of the BNP speaking on this, but Nick Griffin was making public speeches on it by ca. 2005, I think, and was of course dealt with from above by a combination of ignoring and denunciation. Yet he was right.

    Mark Collett, in the 2000s a core BNP activist and now an ethnonationalist Youtube and social media personality funded by his tens of thousands of followers, might know something about it. I’d wonder, among other things, how the BNP originally learned about it.

  15. I had been hearing about this pattern for years, and had therefore published a Taki’s column documenting the problem in 2013, a year before Rotherham became notorious.

    The university-educated prestige press ran away from this story for years, but people on the street have known for a while.

    If this exceptionally thick and drunk individual knew in 2011 about rape gangs and they didn’t, how stupid does that make the press?

  16. Hail says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Anarcho-Tyranny

    Don’t ask for whom the Tyranny rages. It rages for YOU.

    Q. How much jail time did the white man who dropped off a package of bacon in front of a mosque in Bristol, England, get?

    [MORE]

    A. 12 months prison time, for anti-Islamic terrorism and hate crime.

    But, alas, it was a death sentence.

    The man (Kevin Crehan [1981–2016; R.I.P.]) was found dead in prison while serving the sixth month of his time for anti-Islamic hate crimes. Date of death: Dec. 27, 2016; cause of death unknown and never fully revealed. The prison population was heavily Muslim.

  17. @Alden

    For whatever reason, it seems to be your goal to lower the tone of conversation here. I wish you’d reconsider your stance, and contribute something constructive, rather than pointing at others, whom you don’t even identify. Though from your tone it’s probably best that you don’t.

    I’ve been reading and contributing here for quite some time and for all of our faults, failing to identify the culprits in cases like this one is not among them. That’s a consistent failure of the Establishment, including the media, and your ire might be better aimed in that direction.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @MBlanc46
  18. Paul says:

    “The British newspapers all have the report, but is the report posted online yet for the public to read?”

    Steve, is there a way that you can get your hands on the report?

  19. @Bragadocious

    Probably never. The abused girls were mostly from foster homes and didn’t have much family to speak of. Easy for the system to ignore, they weren’t going to generate media attention.

  20. Here’s a fairly recent blogpost by one of the cops named in the report. The men of England have got to be the most cucked men in all of Europe. Corpses should be swinging from lampposts. Just kidding!

    https://ccdavethompson.wordpress.com/2019/10/15/diversity-is-answer-to-extremism/

    • Replies: @Hail
  21. Lot says:
    @Hail

    “ I would be surprised if as many as one-in-five commenters made,”

    I remember zero like that.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  22. Thea says:

    It seems unlikely a society can come back from this level of debasement. Where are the fearless Englishmen we hear about from Verdun and Waterloo and Normandy? They are no longer willing to stand up for their heritage, culture and shining civilization.

    Tommy Robinson is the only Brit left with a spine.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  23. Here’s a name that you should know.

    Jimmy Savile.

    Jimmy Savile was an extremely famous British entertainer. He spent many decades doing various shows on television, with most of his shows being aimed at small children. He worked with many children’s charities too. Sort of a zanier British version of Mr. Rogers. After Jimmy Savile died back in 2011, reports began to surface that he had sexually abused hundreds of children over the course of 40 years. The police have found exactly 589 victims, but some estimate up to 1,000 victims.

    Read below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/18/jimmy-savile-abused-1000-victims-bbc

    Revealed: how Jimmy Savile abused up to 1,000 victims on BBC premises

    The BBC will be plunged into a major crisis with the publication of a damning review, expected next month, that will reveal its staff turned a blind eye to the rape and sexual assault of up to 1,000 girls and boys by Jimmy Savile in the corporation’s changing rooms and studios.

    Apparently, Jimmy Savile abused many of victims on BBC premises, in various changing rooms and studios. He also abused child victims at NHS hospitals too (including Stoke Mandeville Hospital), with some medical staff actually witnessing this at the time. Strangely enough, Savile had keys to the hospital and to the children’s rooms there. There are reports he abused children at schools and children’s homes too.

    When child victims came forward to complain of sexual abuse, they were ignored, dismissed, or laughed at. Some children were even told that they were “lucky” to receive his attention. See below.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26312001

    Victims of serial sex attacker Jimmy Savile were not believed when they first confided in others, an NSPCC report has found.

    Many were ignored, dismissed, or laughed at by those they told shortly after Savile abused them.
    Some of them were even told by friends or relatives they were “lucky” the late DJ had paid attention to them.

    A British news broadcast program called “Newsnight” was going to air a story about Jimmy Savile’s sexual abuse, but killed the story back in 2011. When allegations of Jimmy Savile’s abuse finally became public in 2012, “Newsnight” came under a lot of fire.

    This is similar to how ABC News killed Amy Robach’s news story about Epstein (which linked Bill Clinton to the child prostitution network) back in 2016, but we didn’t know this until late 2019. Interestingly, the informer (who broke the news that ABC had killed the Epstein story in 2016) had moved to CBS. ABC told CBS the identity of the whistleblower, who was then fired. So I guess you could say that the American media is even worse than British media.

    Prince Charles was close friends with Jimmy Savile. Apparently, Prince Charles was friends with 2 more pedophiles – Peter Ball and Laurens van der Post. That’s rather odd. Savile also had a very large number of powerful and famous friends (Royal family, politicians, entertainers, socialites, etc).

    While committing sexuall abuse, Jimmy Savile even engaged in Satanic rituals. Not joking. Satanic worship. See below.

    In one instance, a group of Satanic worshippers (including Jimmy Savile) lit candles in a basement of a hospital. They took a young child there and molested, raped, and beat her. While the torture was taking place, there was a ritualistic chant that praised Satan. Apparently, Jimmy Savile wore a hooded robe and mask, as apart of the ritual. The below quote was taken from a British news report.

    The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrified victim in a candle-lit basement.

    “She recalled being led into a room that was filled with candles on the lowest level of the hospital, somewhere that was not regularly used by staff.

    “She was molested, raped and beaten and heard words that sounded like ‘Ave Satanas’, a Latin­ised version of ‘Hail Satan’, being chanted.

    Summary:

    -Jimmy Savile was a British entertainer who did shows for children. After he died in 2011, reports surfaced that he sexually abused up to 1,000 kids over 40 years.
    -The sexual abuse took place in BBC premises, hospitals, children’s homes, and schools.
    -When the victims came forward, they were ignored.
    -British news program “News Night” killed a Jimmy Savile story in 2011, a year before the the sexual abuse allegations became public.
    -Jimmy Savile had many powerful and famous friends within Britain’s elites (like Prince Charles).
    -Jimmy Savile conducted Satanic rituals while committing abuse.

  24. Paul says:

    England is known for classism. So liberal elites in particular perhaps figure that the victims are just white, working class. Why is nobody responsible for allowing such things to have gone on brought to justice?

    • Replies: @jim jones
  25. J.Ross says:

    This is what happens in a conquered country.

  26. @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s almost as if Muslims are fighting a low-intensity war against the White European population….

    They are.

    • Agree: Thea
  27. J.Ross says:
    @Lot

    His name, religio-ethny, and professional title start with a J, and he was his usual psychopathic, unempathic self regarding the girls, and he made similar remarks about the accusers in the Weinstein affair. But he was nearly the only one I remember.
    How is there any anger left over for any of us when police officers in a time of government-propagated sensitivity to rape execute their jobs like this? Cops are assassinated in their patrol cars over a hoax in the US, while the UK absolutely nothing will happen to cuck groats assisting child rapists.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @danand
    , @Dissident
  28. @anon

    This is going to cause quite a headache for little Zayn several years hence if she ever becomes interested in maternal DNA, or is curious about her susceptibility to genetic disorders associated with Y chromosomes.

    And yes, I understand I just gendered baby Zayn without knowing anything about her. But the couple, at least as quoted in the Tribune article, did not hesitate to refer to their newborn as a girl and use “she” pronouns. They assumed, in other words, that someone who has a vagina and two X chromosomes is a “girl” until proven otherwise. Which is apparently totally acceptable, as long as they’re the ones doing it.

    • Replies: @anon
  29. Rosie says:
    @Mr McKenna

    For whatever reason, it seems to be your goal to lower the tone of conversation here.

    After awhile, one begins to lose one’s patience.

    I’ve been reading and contributing here for quite some time and for all of our faults, failing to identify the culprits in cases like this one is not among them. That’s a consistent failure of the Establishment, including the media, and your ire might be better aimed in that direction.

    No, Alden is correct. You routinely hear people make such claims around here. Not the majority, of course, but then the majority never really says anything about it, either. That is the source of the frustration.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
  30. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Alden

    It’s nice White ladies who are the eternal justifiers for Muslim rape. Kids are kids. But the decision makers in Britain are all nice White ladies happy to see this happening to working class girls or cucked White men appeasing White women.

    White adult women have no problem parading around in pink knitted pussy hat on their heads over Trump. Strangely they go silent on cases like this.

    Muslim don’t let their girls get raped by foreigners. But then they don’t let their women do much either. There is a lesson there.

    • Agree: Futurethirdworlder
    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Rosie
  31. @Alden

    “I assume this thread will become like every other thread about sex and other crimes inflicted on White women and girls. Endless blaming of the victims and chining in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.”

    Who the f#$# believes that?

    Children cannot consent to sex under British law. They certainly cannot consent to being abused by hundreds of strangers.

    The only people who seem to think that way are the police and politicians.

    My own belief is that there are a million Paki men in the UK who should be tortured and impaled on stakes. Their women and children can go in a wicker man for a taste of traditional British culture.

  32. @JohnnyWalker123

    The British elite seems to include many people who have links to child sexual abusers.

    Prince Andrew raped women (including Virginia Roberts Giuffre) on Jeffrey Epstein’s properties. So he’s in a lot of trouble now.

    Lord Mountbatten (one of the most powerful and famous royals) was a pedophile, according to released FBI documents.

    Here’s a documentary about how there are many pedophiles in the British parliament.

    One pedophile ring (involving members of the British parliament) may have murdered several individuals.

    The British police killed an investigation into pedophilia in the British parliament. The investigation included various members of parliament, including a very powerful politician named Cyril Smith.

    The Church of England seems to have a pedophile problem too. The Archbishop of Canterbury and Prince Charles protected a pedophile bishop named “Peter Ball.”

    Rotherham cops and politicians have participated in the pedophilia.

    Something very odd is happening in “Merrie Olde” England……

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Curmudgeon
  33. Hail says: • Website
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Thank you, Malcolm X-Lax, for the link.

    A short analysis of just one paragraph in West Midlands Police Chief Constable Dave Thompson [born ca.1968]’s blog entry dated Oct. 15, 2019 (linked to above):

    In the case of right wing extremism the ideology can start in some very mainstream legitimate footholds. Questioning why the police take part in pride events for example. There are of course legitimate debates about the balance between crime fighting and community engagement but sometimes these discussions can migrate into expressed grievances that diverse groups are being treated more favourably. The next step is racist or offensive language about these groups. These grievances can move towards some alarming ideologies based on distorted facts that become truths

    Here are some things I immediately pick up on,

    (1) Chief Constable Thompson (surname and nationality notwithstanding, presumably no relation to Dr. James Thompson, now of the Unz Review) implicitly condemns the people “questioning” why the police take part in “pride” events, but provides no answer either overt or implied to this legitimate question; he is close to stating outright in this paragraph that “questioning” this is tantamount to taking the first step into the netherworld of “right-wing extremism;”

    (2) Chief Constable Thompson uses a few politicized, vague buzz-words when others would fit better or more precisely. Most conspicuously here, “Pride” and the old-standby “Diverse.” Note that his use of “diverse” in the passage I quote is definitely a euphemism for ‘Nonwhites,’ and a strict reading of his words using the classic definition of “diverse” makes the sentence unintelligible;

    (3) Any time a White person or group is implied, we find words like “extremism,” “alarming,” “racist,” and “offensive,” and “distorted;” any time a Nonwhite (or Gay/Trans/etc.) person or group is implied, we find no such words, instead finding neutral terms. There is only one set of villains here!

    (4) The word “ideology” is attached solely to “right wing extremists.” The people organizing Gay Pride parades have no ideology, nor do the Muslims or Blacks he implies (“diverse”) and about whom the right-wing extremists or proto-extremists have these “grievances.” (The question of ‘agency,’ who has it and who doesn’t have it, in the white left-wing worldview.)

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
  34. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey

    Muslim don’t let their girls get raped by foreigners. But then they don’t let their women do much either. There is a lesson there.

    It’s not an either or. You don’t have to choose between being sharia-compliant or anything goes. Whites would not permit their women to be raped sixty years ago. I think some Whites even resorted to something called lynching when that in fact did occur. But at the same time White women were not confined to the home like some sort of personal property.

    We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

  35. Steve,
    I know inbreeding is a huge problem in Muslim communities in the UK, and inbreeding makes people very stupid, and done enough, can lead to mental retardation. What fraction of the Muslim Rapists are inbred? From a cursory glance at the grooming gang suspects, they seem to have the basic traits of inbreeding, the fat nose and the bug eyes.

    According to this ethnic chart by the UK government, Asians, defined as South Asians seem to have a 9% higher crime rate than White British.
    https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest
    Obviously that is the low Indian crime rate being mixed in there, but for the most part it is really close to the White crime rate. It is much closer than Hispanics to Whites in the US.

    I really wonder what is the rape rate of non-inbred Muslims, the ones who are not a product of a cousin marriage. I bet it is much lower, maybe the same as Whites.

    As an aside, though I really don’t know much about this subject, but minorities in the UK seem far more functional than minorities in the US.

    According to this recent data on household earnings, South Asians do fairly well against the Whites, with Indians doing far better than the Chinese and Whites. Blacks also do fairy well, but are still the worst. The Chinese do better than every group but the Indians, including Whites.
    https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/pay-and-income/household-income/latest

    I know the Blacks get in under merit based immigration, but the South Asians and Chinese mostly came as low-skilled servants in the early to mid 20th century. Why do they do pretty well?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  36. @JohnnyWalker123

    I still remember the British press’s outrage when the Jon Benet Ramsey story broke. How could those perverted colonials sexualize young girls by dressing them in skimpy outfits and parading them around on stage? At the time I thought, how odd. Why would they care? But it’s all clear to me now. They were projecting their own pedophilic urges onto a country that by comparison doesn’t suffer from this problem.

  37. @jon

    The implication that this took the Brady-Davis bunch by surprise Myles and Precious Brady-Davis had their daughter, Zayn, in early December then learned the Illinois Department of Public Health’s current birth certificate system would automatically misgender the parents. is especially -if I may be permitted – precious.
    Particularly in light of Melaney Arnold, a spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Public Health, said Myles and Precious Brady-Davis were the first transgender parents to call this issue to the state’s attention. She said the department will issue a birth certificate that reflects their gender identities, and the state started working in October to make this a “permanent option easily available to all transgender parents.”.

    So in summary , the state started working in Oct. on a fix for a ‘problem’ that was discovered in Dec. This disproves one of Steve’s axioms, in the Brave ,New, Woke World, Time doesn’t flow only in one direction. Either that or the Illinois Department of Public Health got some bitchin’ “Minority Report” AI.

  38. istevefan says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    There are plenty of scum bags among us who abuse our own people, and they need to be punished, severely. But, I don’t think introducing their actions into a discussion of outsiders preying upon our people is germane to the discussion.

    It is natural and normal for human groups to react differently to abuses committed upon its members by out-group members versus fellow members of their in-group. Though what constitutes an in-group changes over time and space, it generally seems that humans treat abuse by outsiders as the greater crime.

    For example, we all know that black lives matters doesn’t give two cents for the multitudes of black-on-black murder victims. The only time they would protest a black-on-black killing is when the black killer is a cop. And then it is because they consider the black cop as being effectively White since he is working for “the Man.”

    But BLM goes into overdrive when a White kills a black. They know instinctively what that represents and they won’t stand for it.

    I suppose historically you had to react harsher to out-group aggression because if you didn’t, it was a sign to them that your group was ripe for the taking. So you had to make an example of such infractions so as to insure the other group kept to themselves.

    In-group offenders were always handled in house. And even today you see bureaucratic organizations often wanting to handle punishment in house and not subject themselves to outside authority.

    That Whites go out of their way to not punish out-group offenders of Whites is a sign that something is wrong with them. They are not quite right. But we all suspect something is up because there are so many topics discussed on this blog that point out White dysfunction. So I guess it is not surprising that our natural instincts for protecting one another from out-group aggression is gone.

    Extrajudicial justice is frowned upon. But if any case deserved a dose of extrajudicial justice it would be these rape cases. From a previous Steve post, he pointed out how muslims would never do this in India because they know the Hindus would burn down an entire village in retribution. It must be confusing to the muslims that the locals have no such reaction. And it certainly causes the continuation of the abuse. One outburst of extrajudicial justice early on would have save a lot of people grief.

    • Agree: Charon, HammerJack
  39. @TelfoedJohn

    It doesn’t cast the press as stupid; rather it casts them – altogether appropriately – as skin-crawlingly evil. Just come right out and say it; in order to not undermine their ideology, they knowingly allowed these young women and girls to come to great and abiding harm.

    It would only be fit and proper if their efforts to support their evil ideology help to further discredit that very ideology and its proponents.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  40. Wilkey says:

    By golly what swell timing – releasing a report that reiterates the threat Muslim immigrants pose to the natives just in time for the next election.

    ….oh what’s that? Elections were just last month?

    As I was saying, what swell timing…

  41. @istevefan

    There are plenty of scum bags among us who abuse our own people, and they need to be punished, severely. But, I don’t think introducing their actions into a discussion of outsiders preying upon our people is germane to the discussion.

    I was actually making a different point.

    VERY few ordinary people are connected to pedophile rings. It’s really rare. However, if you look at elite social circles (politicians, entertainers, financiers, etc), you’ll see there are a notably large number of people who are somehow connected to pedophile rings. This seems especially true in the UK.

    Why?

    Why is there so much pedophilia at the top (especially in the UK)? Why are so many pedophiles closely connected to the British royal family (Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Lord Mountbatten)?

    Here’s another disturbing question. How are these elite pedophiles (Jimmy Savile, Jeffrey Epstein, members of the British parliament, Church of England) able to go decades while evading prosecution? There’s something deeply wrong here.

    So when you read about how British authorities looked the other way when the Pakis ran their pedophile prostitution rings, keep in mind that the authorities looked the other way when Jimmy Savile was doing the same. If Savile alone could abuse 1,000 children (at BBC premieses, hospitals, schools, child homes) and get away with it, that indicates that British authorities are remarkably lax about prosecuting pedophilia.

    When you read about how British law enforcment (police, courts, child protective services) failed to catch the Paki pedophile pimps, remember that British law enforcement failed to catch Jimmy Savile and so many elite pedophiles.

    It is incorrect to say that British authorities only went soft on the Pakis. The reality is that British authorities seem to be soft on large pedophile rings, even when those rings are operated by Whites. This is a systematic problem in British society.

    If PC is to blame for the oversight of the Paki rings, what explains the inability to catch Jimmy Savile? Is he a “man of color”? Did “fears of racism accusations” make authorities go soft on him?

    My point is this. I believe that British authorities have been given an order to go soft on prosecuting pedophile rings because so many British elites are compromised in some way. Since there’s minimal prosecution of these rings, the Muslims/Pakis are taking advantage of this to run their own rings.

    So I don’t see PC as the primary factor. I think the softness on the Paki pedophile rings reflects a systematic decision to go soft on pedophile rings. This decision was made due to pressure from British elites, many of whom (especially the Royal family, parliament, and entertainers) are somehow connected in with pedophile rings.

    TLDR Summary: Many British elites (parliament, Royal family, entertainers) are connected with pedophile rings. They are placing pressure on law enforcement to go soft on fighting large pedophile rings, so they can evade prosecution. The Pakis are taking advantage of this to run their own pedophile rings. PC is not the primary factor behind why there’s so much laxness on prosecuting Paki groomers. PC can’t explain why British authorities didn’t go after Jimmy Savile or parliamenterians.

  42. Lo says:

    Heroic Kurds saving the Western civilization. Erdogan must stop attacking our Kurdish terrorist partners.

  43. Charon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That last bit is pretty good.
    And accurate too.

  44. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fun To Do Bad Things

    But wasn’t little Zayn was only “assigned” female at birth. Everyone knows that’s no more representative of Zayn’s identity than the brand of diapers Zayn wears. We await to hear what pronouns little Zayn will select.

  45. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Rosie

    Really need to take up the woman question here.

  46. Rosie says:
    @Whiskey

    White adult women have no problem parading around in pink knitted pussy hat on their heads over Trump. Strangely they go silent on cases like this.

    They don’t go silent; they just get the megaphone taken away from them. The media decides when to signal-boost, (((Whiskey))).

    • Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  47. There’s more than one reason that 80% of White Britons live in >90% white wards.

    The whitest metropolitan wards are 72% white.

  48. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    “… in the early and mid-2000s”: Whew, glad we’re past that. Ancient history. On with life.

  49. The report was not online when the newspapers went to press. Buried in Google results is this page:

    https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/child-sexual-exploitation-in-greater-manchester/

    which provides links to the report:

    https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2569/operation_augusta_january_2020_digital_final.pdf

    and to a Word document that is a “a two page appendix to the press release”:

    https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2570/appendix-to-cse-press-release-2-page-summary.docx

    The report provides a number of reasons for failure. In addition to the “many sensitive community issues”, it reports that police had been given targets for property crimes such as burglaries and car theft.

    The Guardian reports “Operation Augusta was shut down prematurely partly because senior officers had prioritised solving burglaries and car crime.” It does not discuss what the other partial reasons might have been, not does it mention what the perpetrators had in common. You can search the article in vain for “Muslim”, “Asian”, or even “commun*”, “sensitiv*”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/14/prosecute-officers-says-greater-manchester-abuse-whistleblower

    The Leftoid press, police, social workers, and politicians all seem to think that when people find out about minority organised crimes, they will take to the streets with pitchforks and torches, and commit pogroms against innocent people who happen to have the same race as the criminals.

    Yet, despite official cover-ups lasting over a decade, the public has found out about multiple instances of organised mass rape of children by Muslim gangs, and the feared pogroms have not materialised. Please, please, can we have law enforcement once again? The notions of equality before the law, and serving the public without fear or favour, were once the foundation of policing, and it is shameful that the British authorities ever felt they were dispensable.

  50. @Rosie

    Which Pussy Hatter spoke against Muslim grooming gangs?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  51. “I had been hearing about this pattern for years, and had therefore published a Taki’s column documenting the problem in 2013, a year before Rotherham became notorious. “

    If you don’t mind my asking, Steve, given that you live 6000 miles away from the UK and don’t travel a whole lot, how is it that you came to be so far ahead of the curve on this story? I, for example, used to live in the UK, and still have rather frequent contact with Brits, yet I never heard about this until you and Rotherham Report got the ball rolling.

    Is such perspicacity just testament to the Power of Noticing?

    • Replies: @Hail
  52. @Achmed E. Newman

    While that was going on, that nice white British college boy who scored with a young lady in the dorm room and forgot to carry her books the next day, as she kinda regretted it anyway because that hunky guy who dumped her a month back texted her again, may readily be accused of rape, and that investigation, by the whole damn college, will be resourced like the race to the freakin’ moon!

    This is unfortunately true. For five years, the Director of Public Prosecutions for England and Wales was Alison Saunders. Like many people, she was frustrated by the low conviction rate for rape. She wanted the Police and the Crown Prosecution Service to do something about it, but because they were already doing everything they legally could, they met their targets by such tactics as failing to disclose exonerating evidence to the defence.

    It is a fair question why Saunders’ prosecutorial zeal was absent when it came to the Pakistani grooming gangs. There is no chance at all of getting an honest answer from her: she has retired with honours and returned to a large law firm.

    • Replies: @Fen Tiger
  53. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    If you were in the UK between the mid 2000s and early 2010s and didn’t hear a word about it, I’d say it shows you were not regularly following the BNP (or other dissident, right-wing nationalist-oriented groups; but for a few years, there, the BNP was the center of action and its stars seemed to be aligned).

    There are people reading this who know the trajectory of this a lot better than I, but as JohnnyWalker123 and YetAnotherAnon wrote above, the BNP led a heroic effort at raising awareness. A few BNP figures were jailed on hate-speech charges partly for doing so, for trying to raise awareness of Rotherham and similar sex-crime rings. Following these malicious prosecutions, the BNP moved away from the issue, and eventually the BNP itself faded out.

    The BNP and party head Nick Griffin himself spread the word, both in a street-evangelism-like manner and via more conventional means, their website (pre-social media), and early online video. The earliest surviving reference to this I find on Youtube is a video uploaded Jul 28 2007, of Nick Griffin speaking Nov. 1, 2006, referring to anti-“grooming” activism he had been doing earlier that year.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  54. @Almost Missouri

    Unfortunately.

    The book Storyteller: The Many Lives of Laurens van der Post (written by JDF Jones) claimed that he was a pedophile.

    Laurens van der Post was extremely close to Prince Charles, as well as as an adviser to British prime ministers. Prince Charles was very close to a fair number of pedophiles (Jimmy Savile, Lord Mountbatten, Peter Ball).

    Then there’s Prince Andrew, who was very close to Jeffrey Epstein.

    If you examine the elite social circles of the United Kingdom, the pedophilia is very blatant. Much more than even the U.S.

    If the Paki pedophile rings weren’t smashed due to PC, why do Britain’s White elites get away with this stuff?

    Perhaps British law enforcement authorities came under pressure (from British elites) to go soft on pedophile rings?

  55. The trouble with this report is that it is written in very opaque language, using long paragraphs, and unless you actually had inside knowledge of what was going on, it would be very difficult to find out what was going on from this report alone.

    I also wonder, relative to other comments here, whether we can necessarily draw the conclusion that this was Asian men exploiting white girls, because some of the girls may also have been black or mixed race and asian themselves.

  56. @anon

    Bringing the focus back in, and with the above in mind, I wanted to comment specifically that it’s not just sex crimes that British police are uninterested when the perpetrators are Muslim, I’m sure. A journalist named Andrew Gilligan, I remember, writing for The Telegraph I believe, used to write about political corruption and election rigging in the London borough of Tower Hamlets, once it had been taken over by Bangladeshis.

    The corrupt Mayor of Tower Hamlets, Luftur Rahman, was exposed by the Press, but despite overwhelming evidence against him, the authorities did nothing. In the end private citizens had to bring a case against him in the Electoral Court. He was found guilty and removed from office. He avoided costs by declaring himself bankrupt. He has not faced criminal charges.

    if Mexican drug dealers can bribe American policemen, surely Pakistani drug dealers can bribe British ones.

    The amazing thing is that Muslim criminals get the results they want without paying bribes.

    One of the reasons is the Macpherson report into the murder of Stephen Lawrence, which concluded that the police were “institutionally racist”. For a generation, the British police have been terrified of allegations of racism, to the detriment of law enforcement. To make matters worse, the enquiry into the Lawrence murder failed not because of institutional racism, but simple police corruption – at least one of the detectives was on the payroll of a gangster who happened to be the father of one of the killers. Whether Macpherson was a fool, or simply afraid to report what he found, nobody seems to care.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  57. @JohnnyWalker123

    Perhaps British law enforcement authorities came under pressure (from British elites) to go soft on pedophile rings?

    I think this is unlikely and nothing to do with elites. Manchester is only 45 miles from Rotherham, and very close to Rochdale, but the common factor in all the places is social disintegration and economic deprivation following the decline of traditional industries like coal mining, steel, and cotton.

    I think another important factor is that social worker training in the UK is or was deficient in criminology.

    However, around the same time these events were taking place in Rotherham, Manchester, Rochdale, Oxford, Telford, etc., I worked in juvenile justice in Florida and I personally knew of at least 50 underage girls who were being prostituted and rewarded with drugs, and were reporting having had scores of sexual partners, and numerous venereal infections yet as far as I knew at the time none of the men involved had ever been prosecuted for crimes of underage sex, so it is not unique to the UK.

    The Jeffrey Epstein story also suggests that there is no shortage of potential child sex abuse victims in Florida even in the prosperous areas immediately adjacent to the Southern White House at Mar-a-Lago.

  58. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Which Pussy Hatter spoke against Muslim grooming gangs?

    Every single one of them for all you or I know.

    How many White Congressmen are there. How many of them have ever said anything about immigration? We have no way of knowing that, do we?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Almost Missouri
  59. MBlanc46 says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Well said, Mr McK. Thank you.

  60. @TelfoedJohn

    The university-educated prestige press ran away from this story for years, but people on the street have known for a while.

    Channel 4 produced the documentary Edge Of The City on Bradford in 2004. It was shown in August 2004, after being withdrawn the previous May.

    Andrew Norfolk of The Times broke the Rotherham story in 2011. This time, people were ready to listen.

    Even today, people are unwilling to face up to the scale of the phenomenon. In the affected towns, a few percent of Muslim men were raping underage white girls. The good news is that more than 90% were not involved; the bad news is that the frequency of these crimes is 50 to 100 times higher per 100,000 people than among native Brits. The same magnifier seems to apply to terrorist homicides.

    It seems to be a difficult idea to explain. At least 90% of British Muslims are not involved in serious crime; and yet the fraction who do commit serious crime is 50 to 100 times larger for Muslims than for native Brits. Many people seem to treat these two facts as incompatible. The second fact means that it would be madness to allow further mass immigration from Muslim countries; yet if you try to explain this, people will think you are racist, or they will say “I know a Muslim and he’s the most decent guy you could meet”.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Pericles
  61. The Leftoid press, police, social workers, and politicians all seem to think that when people find out about minority organised crimes, they will take to the streets with pitchforks and torches, and commit pogroms against innocent people who happen to have the same race as the criminals.

    On the surface.

    What they’re really afraid of is that the people with the pitchforks will aim them where they belong– at the hearts of the authorities.

    Those aren’t innocent people, and don’t have the same race as the criminals.

    You just can’t be too cynical about this.Only when you realize that they see these crimes not as failure, but as success.

    In our own country, the Moynihan Report was used as a blueprint.

  62. @Jonathan Mason

    The trouble with this report is that it is written in very opaque language, using long paragraphs, and unless you actually had inside knowledge of what was going on, it would be very difficult to find out what was going on from this report alone.

    The temptation for the Press is simply to copy the press release or the summary. If anyone has the time to read the entire report, there may be some useful information buried there that has not been widely reported.

  63. @istevefan

    There are plenty of scum bags among us who abuse our own people, and they need to be punished, severely. But, I don’t think introducing their actions into a discussion of outsiders preying upon our people is germane to the discussion.

    The police, the politicians, and the press are the scumbags. Introducing their actions– rather, inactions– is the most critical thing at the moment.

  64. In other tranny Chicago news:

    Jennifer Pritzker: GOP’s Policies ‘Marginalize Me Out of Existence’
    Alexandra Silets | January 16, 2019 5:51 pm

    When media-shy Republican billionaire and retired Col. Jennifer Pritzker writes an open letter rebuking the GOP’s policies, people take notice.

    In a piece published in the Washington Post, she writes, “To me, restrictions on transgender military service are personal. I am a transgender woman. … I am also a Republican who generously supports my party.”

    “I have hoped the Republican Party would reform from within and end its assault on the LGBTQ community. Yet, the party continues to champion policies that marginalize me out of existence,” she continued.

    Pritzker enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1974 as Pvt. James Pritzker, serving in both the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions. Pritzker was on active duty for duty for 8.5 years and as airborne ranger completed over 25 noncombat jumps. Pritzker then served four years in the U.S. Army Reserve and 14.5 years in the Illinois Army National Guard.

    Pritzker retired from military service in 2001, and two years later founded the Pritzker Military Museum & Library. She also chairs the Pritzker Military Foundation and the TAWANI Foundation. (The name TAWANI was created using letters from her children’s first names, according to her website.)

    Forbes estimates her worth at $2 billion, and Pritzker is reportedly the only known transgender billionaire.

    Pritzker officially announced her change in gender identity in 2013 after years of struggle. “For much of my life, I couldn’t explore my femininity without significant risk. If the military discovered I dressed as a woman, felt like a woman and identified as a woman, my career would have ended immediately,” she wrote in the Washington Post.

    “Transgender people such as myself need to express our internal identify so that others can see us as we see ourselves. Think of this internal pull like a north-seeking compass. Whenever it is used, the compass will point to true north. Femininity is my true north,” she added.

    But when it comes to continued support of her lifelong affiliation with the Republican Party, she’s putting her substantial money where her mouth is. “When the GOP asks me to deliver six- or seven-figure contributions for the 2020 elections, my first response will be: Why should I contribute to my own destruction?” she wrote.

    President Barack Obama’s administration lifted the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military in June 2016. But in 2017, President Trump announced via Twitter a ban on transgender people serving in the military, surprising even his military leaders.

    Despite Trump’s announcement, both heads of the Navy and Marine Corps told lawmakers they have no reports of transgender troops affecting unit cohesion in 2018.

    Now the issue is in the hands of several federal judges in different jurisdictions. A Washington, D.C. appeals court sided with the administration’s ban early in January, but three other preliminary injunctions remain in place as the issue winds its way through the courts.

    Jennifer Pritzker is the eldest child of Robert Pritzker and first cousin to Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Penny Pritzker, who served as commerce secretary under Obama. Both are Democrats.

    The businesswoman and philanthropist serves on the Chicago Symphony Orchestra Association and contributes to LGBTQ causes. She also buys and restores historic homes and turns them in to bed and breakfasts on the North Shore.

    https://news.wttw.com/2019/01/16/jennifer-pritzker-gop-s-policies-marginalize-me-out-existence

    I heard about this on Dan Proft’s radio show (WIND-AM 560) this morning. He said that when he ran for IL Governor in 2010, he received an unsolicited check for $1,500 from “Jennifer.” He eventually received $100K total from JP for his campaign. He said JP was quite a knowledgeable person.

  65. @John Arthur

    I really wonder what is the rape rate of non-inbred Muslims, the ones who are not a product of a cousin marriage.

    Better yet, Christians in the same countries. Like a kaleidoscope image, they have the same DNA, but arranged very differently.

  66. @Jonathan Mason

    I posted a lot of info in this thread about how British elites are deep into pedophilia.

    What’s your explanation?

    Why did they get away?

  67. @JohnnyWalker123

    PC can’t explain why British authorities didn’t go after Jimmy Savile or parliamenterians.

    Jimmy Savile was interviewed on at least seven occasions by different police forces. The silver-tongued bastard talked his way out of trouble every time. His trump card was to say that if he was arrested and charged, the public would no longer support his fundraising drives for Stoke Mandeville Hospital, which raised millions of pounds.

    There was a genuine cover-up of crimes committed by Cyril Smith MP. In 1979, a local police force had a case against him for physical abuse of boys in a children’s home in Rochdale. Men from MI5 borrowed the police file and never returned it. The allegations were published in Private Eye but were memory-holed until after Smith died.

    Both Cyril Smith and the convicted paedophile Gary Glitter were guests on Savile’s TV show, Jim’ll Fix It.

    Many of the allegations about elite British paedophile rings are invented. They are copied from a scurrilous magazine from the 1990s called Scallywag. At least one of the men telling tales about the Elm Guest House is a fantasist with a conviction for fraud. If you believe everything you read, you end up believing fantasists like “Nick” (Carl Beech), who invented claims of abuse by prominent people he had never met. These claims were believed and thoroughly investigated, to the point where both the Metropolitan Police and the then Home Secretary, Theresa May, described them as “credible and true”. When finally it was realised that the claims had no substance and no corroborating evidence, Nick himself was charged and convicted, and he is now doing 18 years for perverting the course of justice. The journalists who coached Nick appear to have had a party-political (anti-Conservative) motivation – and, surprisingly, they were never charged with an offence!

    Richard Webster was an expert on child-abuse panics, especially investigations against politicians and celebrities. Police investigations into such cases often go awry:

    http://www.richardwebster.net/casa-pia-carlos-cruz-reporterX.html

    The distinguishing feature of the Rotherham and Manchester cases is that they were the opposite of a child-abuse panic. They did not involve anybody rich or famous, and the authorities resisted taking action for as long as they possibly could.

  68. Hail says: • Website
    @James N. Kennett

    it would be madness to allow further mass immigration from Muslim countries; yet if you try to explain this, people will think you are racist, or they will say “I know a Muslim and he’s the most decent guy you could meet”.

    At its peak, ISIS in Syria and Iraq never had more than 25,000 active fighters at any one time, but they were able to take control of 40,000 square miles and 10 million people (a kind of mini version of the original, Mohammed expansion?).

    The major prestige target of Mosul fell in June 2014 to just one thousand ISIS fighters, against a supposedly professionally equipped and trained army (the US-client Iraqi army, which turned out to be worthless; a total waste of the trillions invested); Baghdad might have fallen later in 2014, as well, without heavy international intervention.

    If there are 4 million Muslims in the UK today and a bit over one quarter of these are males age 15 to 60, all it would take is 2% to be of this type:

    …to equal ISIS’ peak strength Iraq-Syria strength of 25,000.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @TelfoedJohn
  69. Andy says:

    The perpetrators should get the harshest penalties, but I can’t help wondering where were the girl’s families? Didn’t they saw their teenage daughters hanging out with these people? From the perspective of Muslims, most western teenage girls are incredibly slutty. It is imaginable for them to let their own girls behave like that. Islam, after all, might be right about women.

  70. @James N. Kennett

    Jimmy Savile was interviewed on at least seven occasions by different police forces. The silver-tongued bastard talked his way out of trouble every time.

    More likely, Prince Charles (who was a close friend of his) made some calls on his behalf and got it taken care of easily. Given that Savile’s abuse ring often involved many individuals, it’s not implausible that a lot of Savile’s friends were men of influence who could pull strings to prevent a full investigation.

    Even after Savile died, a news report into the Savile pedophile ring was killed by Newsnight.

    His trump card was to say that if he was arrested and charged, the public would no longer support his fundraising drives for Stoke Mandeville Hospital, which raised millions of pounds.

    That’s not a trump card. Cops aren’t going to ignore pedophilia because of a fundraising drive for one hospital. If the cops really cared that much about the patients of Stoke Mandeville Hospital, they would’ve wanted the abused children to get treatment. They would’ve also wanted future abuse to be prevented.

    By the way, how did Savile get keys to the hospital and the children’s rooms? How did Savile find a large group of Satanists to help him abuse a child in a hospital’s basement?

    The distinguishing feature of the Rotherham and Manchester cases is that they were the opposite of a child-abuse panic. They did not involve anybody rich or famous, and the authorities resisted taking action for as long as they possibly could.

    The authorities resisted taking action for as long as possible with everyone I mentioned in my posts (Jimmy Savile, Lord Mountbatten, Bishop Ball, Epstein, Prince Andrew, Cyril Smith). Savile alone may have abused up to 1,000 children!

    It’s true Rotherham and Manchester didn’t involve anybody rich or famous.

    My point is this. iIf British law enforcement were strict about investigating pedophile rings, then any investigation of any particular ring could lead to famous people. If the elites forced the British police to go soft on child prostitution investigations in general, that decreases the probability of any elite pedophile ring being investigated.

    Where do you think Savile’s abuse victims came from? They came from deprived backgrounds. A lof of them were under care or from “at-risk” backgrounds. When elites go looking for children to abuse, they often look in the same vulnerable places that a Paki/Muslim might look. So if authorities were empowered to go after pedophile rings, they might apprehend Paki pimps. They might also apprehend pimps connected to powerful people.

    Also, alerting the public about widespread Paki-perpetrated child sexual abuse would raise awareness of child sex abuse in general, making it harder for elites to create child sexual abuse rings.

    I don’t doubt that PC was probably a major factor too, but it wasn’t the only factor (or even the most most important factor).

  71. Surely part of the story is what’s wrong with the white culture that these girls come from.

    I’ll grant the Pakistani pimps are awful — but something must be wrong with their victims as well.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  72. @Hail

    I’ll put money on that photo of yours being faked. How can we get it examined?

    • Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @Hail
    , @duncsbaby
  73. @Jonathan Mason

    ‘… I also wonder, relative to other comments here, whether we can necessarily draw the conclusion that this was Asian men exploiting white girls, because some of the girls may also have been black or mixed race and asian themselves.’

    I won’t comment as to the blacks, but I’d guess the parents of Asian girls raise them so that they’re not exactly vulnerable to ‘grooming.’

  74. @James N. Kennett

    Both Cyril Smith and the convicted paedophile Gary Glitter were guests on Savile’s TV show, Jim’ll Fix It.

    “Rock and Roll Partout“?

  75. This is what the British fought the Germans for? LOL!

    • Replies: @Hail
  76. @Andy

    Most of these “groomed” girls were either homeless, in foster care, or from barely functioning families. These girls were basically street kids without anyone taking care of them. So when Muslims come into contact with these girls, they offer them money, food, rides, cell phones, etc. After “helping” these girls for a while (and getting them addicted to drugs), the Muslim groomers demand “repayment.”

    Muslim families are very protective of their daughters. There’s also a lot of tribal solidarity within the Muslim community. If you abused a Muslim girl, there’d be a massive race riot.

    In a lot of the working&lower class White families, you have a culture of struggling single moms and missing dads. To the Muslims, White women are sluts and White men are deadbeats.

    Demonization of other ethnic groups isn’t just limited to Muslims. Ghislaine Maxwell (who abused so many girls from vulnerable families) referred to the girls as “trash.” In general, it’s not a good idea to allow in a tribalistic population that is fanatically hostile to the host population. Tribalistic populations are HIGHLY predatory.

    There’s one more aspect to this. White British tribal solidarity (which was pretty strong through the 80s) collapsed during the 90s and 2000s, due to media propaganda and a pro-diversity agenda from British elites. This happened at the time Margaret Thatcher left office and John Major came in. Under Blair, pro-diversity propaganda went into overdrive.

    The grooming epidemic didn’t really start until the Blair years and hit its high point in the early/mid 2000s. However, after the Rotherham report, you finally began to see people pay attention to what was happening.

  77. From the VDARE article and still current in this one:

    but is the reported posted online yet

    HTF, Steve, you need a copy editor BUT BAD.

  78. @J.Ross

    Very much to the point: that ‘contributor’ received (and deserved) a ton of pushback in those affairs. I’m still dismayed but there’s little point in re-hashing those particular episodes. Suffice to say there’s usually someone to ‘blame the white girls’ especially when the malefactor has a name like Weinstein or Epstein. But mercifully–in this forum anyway–they are very much the exception rather than the rule.

  79. bispora says:

    It is funny no one mention Peter McLoughlin’s Easy Meat: Inside Britain’s Grooming Gang Scandal. In this the author showed the dimensions of the muslim pedophile activity in England. Peter rates the number of the white teenager victims around 100 thousand-half a million in the last 25 years.
    From Hungary it seems huge number- what is wrong with Britons?

  80. Pericles says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Now imagine a dozen Jimmy Saviles leering at the taxi stands in every city and town while the police march by on their monthly pride parades, prancing and shaking their asses for globohomo. That’s roughly the situation on the ground.

  81. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    It is safe to say that the British Labour Party has, more or less, spearheaded the anti-white drive in the UK – they were responsible for instituting *all* of the UK’s restrictions on free speech, the legalizing of explicitly anti-white racial discrimination in employment, and various statutory privileges specifically accorded to non-whites, but refused to whites.
    And, of course, to cap it all, the Blair/Brown (Economist) Administration of 1997/2010 effectively scrapped any vestige of immigration control in the UK resulting in the most massive surge in immigration ever recorded in UK history.

    Last year’s General Election appears, at first sight, to be a sea-change in British politics. Since its inception in 1900, the Labour Party had relied upon as its essential vote bank, millions of white working class voters in northern industrial constituencies. The Labour Party took them for fools, like it took the Scots for fools, used them as vote fodder and took their votes for granted. They imposed unsuitable scum such as Peter Mandelson as MPs in northern towns. It was unthinkable that they would vote for anyone but Labour and never but never the hated Conservatives with their southern English bias.

    But, alas, the ‘fools’ cottoned on to what Labour is all about, and did the unthinkable and voted Tory.
    Increasingly, Labour is the party of non-whites, representing non whites and voted in by non whites. Significantly, the Labour vote held up in majority black/brown London.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  82. Pericles says:
    @James N. Kennett

    For a generation, the British police have been terrified of allegations of racism, to the detriment of law enforcement.

    “Perhaps they have raped our children with impunity for a generation but at least we weren’t racist.”

  83. Pericles says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The good news is that more than 90% were not involved

    They merely provide the murky water wherein the 10% can swim unhindered.

  84. @Hail

    The major prestige target of Mosul fell in June 2014 to just one thousand ISIS fighters, against a supposedly professionally equipped and trained army (the US-client Iraqi army, which turned out to be worthless; a total waste of the trillions invested);

    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. One well-drilled ideologically committed group can easily beat a lethargic goliath.

  85. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Apparently, Jimmy Savile had a ‘genius level IQ’ as measured by an ‘officially MENSA administered test’.

    Strangely enough, in his long and chequered career, Savile also worked as a coal-miner and professional wrestler, before becoming a dance hall manager in the 1950s. Rather ridiculously, he presented ‘Top of the Pops’ whilst well into his ’70s. Oh, and he also passed a ‘Royal Marines Commando’ selection test whilst of advanced age.

  86. martin_2 says:

    Here are a few facts. Muslim exploitation of young English girls is not confined to Northern towns, it is all over the country. It happens in Southern England and in London too. It is everywhere. It goes on in my town.

    It is not a recent phenomena. I know of a woman who is now an old age pensioner who was briefly involved with one of these gangs when she was a teenager, until one of them raped her. This was in the late 1960’s. She is not retarded. She is not from a broken home or lower class trash. In fact her father was a veteran of El Alamein and the Italian campaign.

    White English people, by ignoring the phenomenon, have proven themselves to be a defeated people. They still vote Labour in those places where the grooming cases have come to light, in spite of the fact that the Labour party were covering up and even colluding with the rapists as part of their war on white working people. White people do not realise how weak and pathetic this makes them look in the eyes of non-whites.

    “I suppose historically you had to react harsher to out-group aggression because if you didn’t, it was a sign to them that your group was ripe for the taking. So you had to make an example of such infractions so as to insure the other group kept to themselves.

    That Whites go out of their way to not punish out-group offenders of Whites is a sign that something is wrong with them. ”

    This is entirely correct. The native English people have shown complete spinelessness in the wake of these appalling attacks on their community. This has not gone unnoticed by the immigrant groups. The white English are a defeated people and are submitting to their new masters accordingly.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  87. Franz says:

    despite official cover-ups lasting over a decade, the public has found out about multiple instances of organised mass rape of children by Muslim gangs, and the feared pogroms have not materialised. Please, please, can we have law enforcement once again?

    Should read:

    Despite official cover-ups lasting over a decade, the public response is what you’d expect from a bed of kelp.

    So Please Please can the cops be better citizens and DO what Apathetic Majority can’t…

    (Can police be made of different stuff than citizens around them? And why?)

  88. Maybe the youth of Britain need a Greta Thunberg of their own to champion this issue and scream at the adults that they have “stolen her childhood”. Except in this case, she’d be right.

  89. a reader says:

    Thanks YetAnotherAnon for this very enlightening link:

    When the narrator explains that some abused girls are as young as 11, why does the camera stop on a shot of Bradford’s main mosque?

    When the narrator says that young Pakistani drugs gangs are beyond the control of “community elders”, are we being told this entire community should be considered guilty of neglect?

    Please note the devoted social worker is Omar while the young thug being taken care of is Matthew.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  90. Fen Tiger says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Saunders is a good example of the integrity-free individuals that ooze their way to the top throughout the western world. They infest all spheres, but are particularly strong in officialdom, the academy, and the media.

    Combine those personal qualities with a near-religious belief in the blank slate and the inherent moral superiority of foreigners (especially brown-skinned foreigners), and you have an establishment class that will always opt to betray its own people and never – never – stand up for them or for the truth about anything.

    Which is how we are where we are.

    • Agree: Hail
  91. Boudicca says:

    Considering that pedophilia is ubiquitous and unremarkable in Pakinstan, none should be surprised children on the margins of British society are raped by “Pakistani heritage” men.

  92. A few points raised above

    JohnnyWalker123 – a lot – probably the overwhelming majority – of the allegations against Saville are invention. When a famous person is safely dead, you can say what you like about them. That doesn’t mean to say none of the allegations are true, but all this talk of thousands of victims?

    From personal female testimony 40 years ago, pre-allegations, when he was just a famous person, I’ve been told that he was a pushy, persistent kind of guy when alone with women. There are a lot of men like that.

    As for the childrens home allegations, someone who was actually there at the time (as an inmate) says at least one set, the first to be publicised, is not true.

    https://annaraccoon.com/2012/10/24/past-lives-and-present-misgivings-part-four/

    On satanic abuse, I really think you need to read the Broxtowe Files, where social workers took a lot of children into care, not because of their dysfunctional families, but because of “satanic abuse”. Then you’ll no longer wonder how witch-trials could happen. Fifteen years later one of the senior social workers was involved in more false claims of satanic abuse at a nursery in Newcastle, which severely impacted (as in having to live in hiding) several innocent people.

    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~dlheb/jetrepor.htm

    “The family were under constant surveillance from the authorities and from an interview with a neighbour it is clear that they attracted attention to themselves as these families often do. The neighbour states that she had “seen young children naked in the garden eating their own excrement and running around the garden naked or [with] very little on even on freezing cold days”. She adds that “any talk of witchcraft or any type of Satanic practices regarding the family surprises me a great deal. I have never head or witnessed anything like that on this estate before”. The neighbours do maintain that the family used to frequently return from the pub and continued ‘parties’ with a lot of shouting and swearing.

    Despite this the social workers have accepted that the family were having witch parties at which sheep were being slaughtered in the front room or the back garden and the front garden and were subsequently left in the garages in wheelie bins, that abortions were committed in the front room, that more than eight witches danced around singing in the front room, that later one of the children had her stomach cut open on a table in the front room and that [Mary] witnessed seven children being killed along with acts of cannibalism. We do not consider that the belief that this could be kept secret matches basic commonsense or reality. Outside of the babies and the children, sheep are large, noisy, difficult animals and when one was slaughtered by an Indian on a council estate in Leicester it hit the national newspaper headlines the following day. In our view another explanation has to be sought.

    British understatement is not dead.

    And on Prince Andrew allegations, (allegedly) sleeping with a 17 year old girl is not paedophilia.

    Alden/Whiskey – it’s sad but true that the only on-line feminists who were outraged by the many, many grooming cases were lesbians, for it’s not the colour of someone’s skin but the contents of their scrotum which is important. Julie Bindel was writing in the Times about ‘grooming’ back in 2007, admittedly probably 10 years after people like the BNP picked up on it (Anne Cryer, the MP for Keighley, near Ground Zero in Bradford, to her credit was shouting about it, but it was ignored by the BBC and Guardian).

    I remember the days when there were lots of feminist blogs, and while they cared about rape a great deal, and would blog interminably on Jimmy Saville or allegations of alleged rape in small left-wing parties (search “Comrade Delta”), they ignored this industrial-scale abuse completely.

    If you asked why (in the comments) you’d be told there’s a lot going on, can’t blog about everything, etc – and if you pushed (“but isn’t this more important?”) you’d get “I’m not here to blog about what interests you, or to push your agenda”.

  93. duncsbaby says:

    Yet, despite official cover-ups lasting over a decade, the public has found out about multiple instances of organised mass rape of children by Muslim gangs, and the feared pogroms have not materialised. Please, please, can we have law enforcement once again?

    It’s not pogroms from whites they fear but riots by Muslims and, as well, their Black allies.

  94. @a reader

    “When the narrator explains that some abused girls are as young as 11, why does the camera stop on a shot of Bradford’s main mosque?”

    Maybe it’s a reference to the prophet’s third wife?

    “Some traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 or 7; other sources say she was 9 when she had a small marriage ceremony; some sources put the date in her teens; but both the date and her age at marriage and later consummation with Muhammad in Medina are sources of controversy and discussion amongst scholars.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

  95. Hail says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    If you google the specific phrases on these signs, such as “sharia for the netherlands” “islam will be superior,” you’ll see many news outlets reporting on this in Oct. 2009.

    BBC report including an original photograph with the same sign:

    [Geert Wilders’] plan to stage an open-air news conference around the corner on College Green had to be abandoned when about 40 protesters arrived on the scene chanting “Wilders go to hell” and waving placards saying “Sharia for the Netherlands” and “Islam will be superior”.

    The MP, who is an outspoken critic of Muslim ideology and has called for the Koran to be banned, was bundled through a gate in the high stone wall surrounding Abbey Gardens […]

    I believe similar protests have happened in the UK throughout the 2000s and beyond, with comparably incendiary signs, “Butcher those who insult Islam” and the like.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  96. @Hapalong Cassidy

    Maybe the youth of Britain need a Greta Thunberg of their own to champion this issue and scream at the adults that they have “stolen her childhood”. Except in this case, she’d be right.

    What they need is Hereward the Wake, what they’ll get is Hereward the Woke, sadly.

  97. Art Deco says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I think another important factor is that social worker training in the UK is or was deficient in criminology.

    It’s deficient in everything else, too. If ever there was a ‘profession’ that was aught but an assertion by government licensing boards, it’s social work.

    https://www.amazon.com/Social-Work-Survive-Colin-Brewer/dp/0851171885

    1. Have the child protective and elder protective inspectorate run by sheriff’s deputies, psychologists, and public health nurses who’ve had some cross training.

    2. Have counselors, if we have to employ them, trained in clinical psychology.

    3. Have the salaried administrators in the welfare apparat trained at schools of public administration or trained on the job.

    4. Have the liaisons you see employed in hospitals and nursing homes trained on the job. The people with the real skills making evaluations are nurses and physical therapists.

    5. Have the people who advise clients of how to apply for this and that trained on the job. Better yet, simplify the array of benefit programs.

  98. Art Deco says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    More likely, Prince Charles (who was a close friend of his)

    ‘Scuse me, but where is the evidence the Prince was a ‘close friend’ and not just an acquaintance who’d participated in some projects with the Prince? Savile crossed paths with masses of name people (among them the prime minister’s wife, Norma Major). ‘Close friends’ for most people don’t exceed in number about seven. (Less than that in a non-expressive culture like that of Britain).

    • Agree: Fen Tiger, Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @JohnnyWalker123
  99. @James N. Kennett

    Jimmy Savile was interviewed on at least seven occasions by different police forces. The silver-tongued bastard talked his way out of trouble every time. His trump card was to say that if he was arrested and charged, the public would no longer support his fundraising drives for Stoke Mandeville Hospital, which raised millions of pounds.

    I was never really convinced that Savile was guilty of anything other than bad taste. After he died, hundreds of people came forth with allegations that were neither sworn depositions nor investigated, that, if true, would have meant that Savile was Britain’s most prolific serial rapist and pedophile.

    All of these people were seeking financial compensation. All but a couple were anonymous and the ones who were not anonymous were not credible–one of whom was his own niece, and another an author of highly fictional pity lit who never met a man who did not rape her.

    But not a single one of the allegations has ever been credibly authenticated and many of them were alleged to have occurred in public places like hospitals that Savile never visited in his lifetime.

    I lived close to Savile for some years (within walking distance of his apartment in Roundhay Park, Leeds, England) and never heard of any sexual allegations against him, even though I worked in some of the some hospitals where Savile worked as a volunteer and is alleged to have committed some of his offenses, and knew many people who worked in those hospitals.

    This means nothing in itself. He was known to be single and to have a preference for much younger women, but that is a whole different kettle of fish from being a rapist and pedophile.

    He was given shows on the BBC radio and TV largely because there was a dearth of working class entertainers at the time in the extremely middle class, elitist BBC, and as a former miner and bona fide Yorkshireman, he had the common touch. He also raised huge amounts of money for charity and himself was very frugal led a rather austere life for the most part. He did have some luxuries like driving a Rolls Royce car, but on the other hand he saved money when working in London by sleeping in a camper van.

    I did not like him, in fact I couldn’t stand him as an entertainer or as a personality, but I think his reputation has been hard done by.

    In this video a male ex-mental patient from Broadmoor who was formerly a teenage girl claims to have been molested by Savile in a public space in the hospital while watching TV when she was wearing a nightdress and “not allowed to wear panties” (which seems to me like a highly improbable detail.)

    Broadmoor was a hospital for the criminally insane 40 miles from London that housed many famous murderers.

    The distinguishing feature of the Rotherham and Manchester cases is that they were the opposite of a child-abuse panic. They did not involve anybody rich or famous, and the authorities resisted taking action for as long as they possibly could.

    I agree with this. It is just low level organized crime in areas of social pathology, not a grand conspiracy hatched in the House of Lords.

  100. There were a couple of dudes in the 1800s named Charles Dickens and Karl Marx. I bet a few of you guys have heard of them.

    Anyway, it seems like back in those days Britain also had no problem ignoring the rape, prostitution, starvation, and abandonment to a life of petty crime, of thousands of its own native born urchins. Meanwhile thousands more were forced into crushing factory labor, their blood poured out in a hideous sacrifice the end result of which was match sticks and glass.

    This is nothing new in Britain. The only thing new is, in the past it happened at the hands of their own fellow (white) British citizens. The upper class has learned how to outsource its depravity to the Pakis, but its not as if they abandoned their moral principles. They never had any to begin with.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  101. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    There are persistent rumors that Thomas Hamilton, the Dunblane killer, was the organizer of a child prostitution ring that supplied boys to wealthy/connected men. He does appear to have had powerful friends, as he repeatedly evaded arrest for behavior that would have landed anyone else in prison.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  102. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    When warned that the hard right neo-liberal Thatcherite (Economist) economic policies pursued by New Labour with vigor were alienating working class Labour vote fodder, Mandelson in full Marie Antoinette , (let them eat cake!), mode famously retorted “They have no where else to go”.

    Well, Mr. Odious Mandelson, they have, and they’ve gone.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  103. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:

    On the other side of the coin, we have the recent activities of one Carl Beech, serial fantasist who made convincing denunciations of various elderly British big wigs concerning gay paedophilic abuse. The accused included former Home Secretary Leon Britton – who died mid way through the investigation, distinguished military man Lord Bramall, and – inevitably – former PM Ted Heath.
    A massive police enquiry costing many millions was, embarrassingly, found to have been based on the fantasies of a narcissist.

    Likewise, the BBC were forced to pay massive compensation to the late multi millionaire Lord McAlpine – whose family firm built most of Britain’s motorways – on the basis of another yarn-spinner’s fantasies, which prominently featured on the BBC flagship ‘Newsnight’ programme.

  104. @martin_2

    The white English are a defeated people and are submitting to their new masters accordingly.

    Act like a doormat, get treated like one.

    There really is something deeply wrong with whites, and not just the hard-leftists. I liken it to some kind of mental disease or defect.

  105. PSR says:

    The most puzzling aspect of this is why Briton allows Pakistanis to keep immigrating. For goodness sakes, just let them keep stewing in their own corrupt juices back in Crapistan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  106. Alden says:
    @Hail

    Apologies to all the White gentlemen who don’t hate women. Which I believe is most of you.

    Just wanted to make a polite, ladylike (LoL) reminder that I don’t tolerate nasty remarks about 11-15 year girls seduced raped whatever by evil 👿 men, especially non Whites on life Long benefit.

    The feminazi women who run the group homes those pathetic girls live in are more to blame than even the men police. Girls in group and foster homes need more protection than middle class girls.

    Gotta paint 1,400 linear feet of base boards and molding. Fortunately they’re up in saw horses.

    When I finish I’ll explain the difference between British group homes ( actually brothels) for wards of the court, dependent children and American and European group homes for those kids which are pretty good places.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  107. @Anonymous

    ‘Even prince harry is just a dog owned by Meghan the wench’

    How offensive to someone in GB. Border Collies, eg, are a VERY useful & intelligent breed…

  108. @Andy

    Many of the victims were from children’s homes. The attitudes of the staff in such places were unbelievable. They did not think it was any of their business if they saw one of their 12-year-old girls get into a car with a dark-skinned man.

    Most of the other girls were victims of social and family breakdown.

    Some of the girls had families who cared about them. In one case, a father was banging on the front door of a house, knowing that his under-age daughter was inside. The police turned up and entered the house. The girl was found drunk, hiding under a bed. She was arrested for assault, while her father was arrested for racial abuse. The police then left the house, whose remaining occupants were Muslim men and two other under-age white girls.

  109. anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    I assume this thread will become like every other thread about sex and other crimes inflicted on White women and girls. Endless blaming of the victims and chining in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.

    There are now 100 comments on this thread. Not one remotely resembles your fevered fantasy. Your prediction was wrong. Your prediction was wrong.

    Your prediction was wrong.

    Now what will you do? An adult would pop in here and admit error, maybe even sorta kinda apologize for the noise. That is what an adult with agency would do.

    What will you choose to do, Alden? Whatever it is, it will reveal much about your character.

    The same goes for Rosie, by the way. Although futile, as trolls never admit error and have no character.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @J.Ross
    , @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  110. @JohnnyWalker123

    Where do you think Savile’s abuse victims came from? They came from deprived backgrounds. A lof of them were under care or from “at-risk” backgrounds.

    No, in Savile’s case the victims were mostly fans – star-struck teenagers who wanted to meet him. There was a man in Ireland who had the same modus operandi – Eamonn Cooke. He ran the pirate station Radio Dublin from 1977. Irish pirate radio was one of the factors that led to the flowering of Irish pop music in the 1980s and 1990s, but the fond memories of the pirate era were spoilt when Cooke’s activities came to light. The rich and powerful were not involved.

  111. @JohnnyWalker123

    If you abused a Muslim girl, there’d be a massive race riot.

    First the girl’s male relatives would beat you up. Perhaps if they failed, there would be a race riot.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  112. jim jones says:
    @Paul

    I showed this thread to my Labour voting neighbour and asked why the BNP never succeeded and he said because that sort of mindset just leads to concentration camps.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  113. @Thea

    Don’t be daft. EDL is a Zionist front like the now defunct Britain First.

    They never talk about people like Barbara M. Roche flooding the country with these vile third world predators just like Breitbart, Gates of Vienna or Jihad Watch.

  114. @Hapalong Cassidy

    The evil ruling class understands only one language. It certainly isn’t more talking or cowardice.

  115. @Hail

    ‘If you google the specific phrases on these signs, such as “sharia for the netherlands” “islam will be superior,” you’ll see many news outlets reporting on this in Oct. 2009.

    BBC report including an original photograph with the same sign…’

    That is, however, not the same photograph as the one you posted.

    I see no reason to doubt the authenticity of the BBC’s photo; yours looks faked.

  116. Alden says:
    @anon

    You know where you can go.

    • Replies: @anon
  117. @duncsbaby

    ‘How much?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007241/Anti-Islamist-politician-Geert-Wilders-cleared-Dutch-court-inciting-hatred.html

    Lol. Simply posting the same photo twice doesn’t demonstrate its authenticity. Is it your position that the Daily Mail is a paragon of journalistic integrity?

    Anyway, if we can agree on a party to hold our wagers, I’ll put down a hundred dollars. Ron Unz?

    • Replies: @Hail
  118. @JohnnyWalker123

    This seems like broad brush guilt by association. That van der Post was friends with someone who was friends with a confirmed pedo isn’t really dispositive. Given how widespread pedophilia is in the UK, there are undoubtedly non-pedos who are on friendly terms with pedos without knowing of their predilection.

    I don’t carry a particular brief for van der Post, but his personal life doesn’t look like a pedo. Most pedos are either bachelors or have a conventional, if Potemkin, marriage. (Until gay “marriage” occurred, and now there are pedo child trafficking partnerships under color of “marriage”. Thanks, liberals.) Van der Post had passionate affairs with grown women and upended his marital life to marry his inamorata. That doesn’t seem like a pedo signature. A pedo would want a tranquil domestic life to avoid bringing attention to his crimes.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  119. @Jonathan Mason

    Did the Florida cases also involve an ethnic/religious divide?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  120. @Hail

    Thanks for the explanation. I was there before the BNP was a thing.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Hail
  121. @JohnnyWalker123

    Prince Andrew raped women (including Virginia Roberts Giuffre) on Jeffrey Epstein’s properties. So he’s in a lot of trouble now.

    I’m going to use my Trump criticism here. There’s a lot not to like about Andrew, but let’s keep this in the realm of reality.
    Roberts said she was “forced to have sex” with Andrew, when she was 17. She did not say Andrew forced her to have sex with him, and at 17, she was of the age of consent. Roberts also made claims about Al and Tipper Gore that were proven false, as were the dates she claimed she was with Alan Dershowitz. Clearly, she has a credibility problem.
    On a different note, she claims to have “run away” from Epstein. In my humble opinion, if Epstein, and for that matter Andrew, thought that her “running away” would have the slightest bit of chance to expose either of them, she would have been suicided years ago. Along with that, Roberts has plenty to say about infrequent visitor Andrew, but nothing to say about the security entourage that follows him or Slick Willy the frequent flier. Andrew just doesn’t jump in a car to go to the corner store or on a plane and fly to New York.
    I’m not suggesting that Andrew is a swell guy, only that there are a lot of holes in Roberts’ narrative.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  122. @Jonathan Mason

    As I recall, the few who were not White, were Sikhs, or mixed race.

  123. @Alden

    What are you hallucinating about?

  124. @Rosie

    “Every single one of them for all you or I know.”

    As it happens, I do know some, and they have exactly zero interest in any Muslim mistreatment of women. Nor in any Negro mistreatment of women, for that matter. Their sole interest is in what they perceive as personal advantage. So I can say for certain that not a single one of the ones I know of has spoken against Muslim grooming gangs.

    This is why I asked if you knew of any.

    It sounds like not.

    But the search for a Pussy Hat of principle goes on…

  125. @Intelligent Dasein

    A

    nyway, it seems like back in those days Britain also had no problem ignoring the rape, prostitution, starvation, and abandonment to a life of petty crime, of thousands of its own native born urchins. Meanwhile thousands more were forced into crushing factory labor,

    Yes, indeed. Factory labor began at the age of 6.

    Britain had a vast problem with the annoying “criminal classes” in the days before there were police forces, but in 1779, shortly after the United States were cut loose, Britain sent the first shipment of 1000 convicted felons by mandatory deportation to Botany Bay, Australia.

    This was the start of the final solution to crime in the UK and in in the following 40 years another 160,000 souls were packed into crowded ships and transported to the same destination, where they were rented out as laborers to colonial landlords.

    But the problem of the criminal classes was never solved. A brief respite was obtained when millions of young men were sent to die in the trenches in World War I and thus prevented from breeding.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  126. @Rosie

    Thanks, but Tasha Kheiriddin is not a Pussy Hatter. She’s what passes for a “Conservative” in Canada.

    She also has an Arabic Muslim surname, which provides her a bit of rhetorical armor when she defies the feminist establishment’s directives.

    So anyhow, I would say that we are now confirmed for zero Pussy Hatters or even AWFLs speaking against Muslim grooming gangs, but … as it happens, I can name one.

    Ann Cryer was a lefty Yorkshire MP who did complain about girls getting groomed and raped in her district. For her trouble, she was threatened, insulted and ignored by her fellow leftists. So she quit politics.

    But I already knew about her, so I wanted to see if you knew of anyone that I didn’t.

    Since Cryer is a limey, she’s technically not a Pussy Hatter either, but as a lefty, I give her a pass. She may not even be a “feminist”, for all I know, but we must cast the net widely to get anything at all on this subject.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  127. @Almost Missouri

    Many, yes, all, no. We have teenage criminal gangs of three different ethnicities here in Florida, four if you split out the Haitians.

  128. J.Ross says:
    @anon

    First of all, Alden’s a chick, they hear everything more severely than you say it. Second of all, she’s not a troll, her content beyond this gripe is solid. Rosie, Jane et al having nothing to say about any topic, but are always concerned with us, and reliably in the sense that we shouldn’t be us. A writer who contributes normally and has one trollish “meta” (board-targeting) moment is not a troll.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @anon
  129. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    Is that the one that can never be anything more than conspiracy theory beccause Belial (in keeping with what I must assume is standard universal police procedure) had the government’s information on it militarily classified for a hundred years? Nothing says “nothing to see here” quite like that, as can be seen the the Sandy Actors traveling the country to silence the doubtful with well-budgeted lawfare.

  130. J.Ross says:
    @Art Deco

    Kevin Spacey toasts you with his special royal charity mug and reminds all to kill with kindness.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @anon
  131. @Alden

    I didn’t follow any of those Epstein threads that you referred to, Alden. I may not agree with much of Mr. Harbinger’s writing on age of consent, but the rest of his remarks on the matriarchy and feminism on that long thread under the Kevin MacDonald post were very truthful.

    What’s the deal with your “tolerating” it or not? You can argue back, but there’s no reason to try to get him kicked off the site and threaten some BS prosecution. If Mr. Harbinger wants to write in on this unz site that, considering all the die-hard Communists that have columns, is all about controversial views, then he should be able to same as the Commies sickos. You can put him on “ignore”. I just easily skip commenters (only a very few) that I’m sick of with that scroll feature we all have.

    1,400 ft of baseboards/molding should take a while, if you’re priming them too, even if you’re using a sprayer. We’ll see you on here day after tomorrow..

  132. @Jonathan Mason

    Just commenting on the claims in the video that make it sound as if it was significant and scandalous that Savile had his OWN set of keys to Broadmoor hospital, which was a secure facility like a prison for the criminally insane.

    Actually, within closed institutions like secure hospitals and prisons that have large campuses and house dangerous people almost everybody has some kind of keys, but there are not all the same keys. In the prison where I once worked even some of the inmates had keys issued to them at certain times to access cleaning supplies, toilet paper, and paper towels. Sometimes even visitors may be issued keys to visitor bathrooms.

    Because Savile was part of the management team, and had an office and access to a dormitory building, he would obviously have been issued a few keys, like an office key and a dorm key. He would also probably have had keys to outside access doors, hallway doors, and probably a pass key for the patient residential units. But then so would many employees.

    It is most unlikely that he would have had keys to access medical supplies, pharmacy, medical records, the kitchen, the maintenance tools store, and other confidential or security related areas.

    As far as Savile having a special set of GOLD keys when other staff had silver keys, it is just more likely that he had new keys freshly cut from brass blanks that had not yet tarnished. No one has gold keys.

    The residential units that housed female patients were usually staffed with all female staff and it is very unlikely that Savile or any other man would ever have been alone with groups of young female patients or that this would have been allowed for reasons of safety.

  133. a reader says:

    Asian grooming gang free to roam streets because officers were told to ‘find other ethnicities’ to investigate, detective claims.

  134. @Anonymous

    Mandelson is a Jew. His grandfather established the Harrow Synagogue

    Here’s another Jew you should be aware of.

    Her name is Barbara Roche. She was Tony Blair’s immigration mininister.

    The strongest evidence for conspiracy comes from one of Labour’s own. Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.

    Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.

    He was at the heart of policy in September 2001, drafting the landmark speech by the then Immigration Minister Barbara Roche, and he reported ‘coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn’t its main purpose – to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’.

    Imagine that. Jews mocking the economic plight and ethnic marginalization of White British Gentiles.

    Scratch the surface of anything anti-White and there’s always a Jewish person at work.

    By the way, Tony Blair went on to become a fanatical supporter of the the Iraq War, a war that killed over 1 million Iraqi civilians (while injuring, displacing, widowing, and orphaning millions more). I wonder why the “pro-Muslim” Blair supported the Iraq War. Very mysterious!

    We will never figure out the conundrum of why Tony Blair opened the immigration floodgates at home, but slaughtered innocent Muslims abroad. It’s beyond human comprehension. We should probably stop thinking about this topic.

    It is quite remarkable how “self-hating pro-Muslim” White politicians turn into raging militarists when the issue is the Middle East. It’s almost as if they don’t believe what they’re saying…. It’s almost as if there’s a (((Tribe))) of people pulling the strings from behind the scenes….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  135. ATBOTL says:

    The force had, at that time, just finished dealing with unrelated cases involving the Kurdish community that had created severe tensions and officers were keen not to be seen targeting another minority group, it is suggested.

    What were these Kurdish cases about? Were white girls being abused by Kurdish men too?

    We have to see these grooming cases as part of a larger phenomenon across the West of nonwhite groups putting pressure on governments to not punish members of their groups who assault, rape and murder whites. The Jewish ADL was literally created for just such a purpose. The NAACP has a long history of trying to get blacks who were undeniably guilty of murdering whites off the hook. That’s largely what they did at a local level right from the beginning. Epstein and Weinstein are two other cases of rich and powerful Jewish men forming networks that pressure the government of a white country to not punish them for mass raping white women and girls. It’s all the same thing.

  136. ATBOTL says:
    @Alden

    Blaming white women and girls who are raped by nonwhite men is at the core of the problem. We see these anti-white women narratives being pushed over and over by bad elements on the right and this is mirrored in boomer conservatism as well. We talk a lot about pathological altruism, but pathological lack of empathy for the ingroup is just as destructive. We see that pathological lack of ingroup empathy on the right in particular. It’s takes the form of selfish individualism. “As long as it ain’t me gettin’ raped, I don’t care, hehe. She shouldn’t have went outside after dark to begin with, nothing good happens after dark. She was probably a liberal who deserved it, maybe it will teach her a lesson LOL.” That’s the kind of attitude you get from right wing white men a lot. We see it with both boomers and alt-millennials.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  137. @Achmed E. Newman

    Just straight 200 proof minoritarianism: Minorities good/need protecting, majorities–i.e. white gentiles–bad/dangerous.

    Minoritarianism is just a cancer. Once you have public officials prioritizing nattering about “race relations” and “community sensitivity”, you are done, toast.

    Civilization is maintained by responsible men upholding social norms–punishing those who violate them. And the norms and culture to be upheld are … the majority’s. There is no other alternative. (If minorities do not like or don’t wish to live under the majorities norms they should leave or separate, form their own communities or nation.)

    In a civilized nation the people running around worried about “race relations” are members of minority communities, whose leaders should be working to make sure their people are behaving properly and do nothing to call their community into disrepute and especially nothing to offend the “sensitivities” of the majority and incur their righteous anger.

  138. @Curmudgeon

    Roberts said she was “forced to have sex” with Andrew, when she was 17. She did not say Andrew forced her to have sex with him

    Epstein and Maxwell forced her into unwanted sexual activity. They were pimps, Prince Andrew was a John.

    Roberts also made claims about Al and Tipper Gore that were proven false, as were the dates she claimed she was with Alan Dershowitz.

    Dershowitz seems pretty guilty.

    she has a credibility problem.

    Explain this picture.

    Explain why Andrew ditched his police protection.

    she would have been suicided years ago.

    For years, the Epstein story barely got any attention and nobody was ever punished. Then suddenly everything changed in July. Virginia Giuffe Roberts suddenly became quite famous. Recently, she Tweeted “I am not suicidal.”

    She could be killed, but it’s also possible that she will not be killed. She has already given all the information that she has to the media and courts, so killing her would be suspicious without protecting anyone.

  139. @Jonathan Mason

    wearing a nightdress and “not allowed to wear panties” (which seems to me like a highly improbable detail.)

    Panties are one of the many items that can be used for self-strangulation. Shoelaces, belts etc are routinely confiscated to prevent self-harm. A mental patient who has attempted suicide might be given a paper nightdress and nothing else.

    I agree that some of the claims against Savile are fanciful and motivated by a desire for financial compensation; but not all.

    For example, this complaint was made by a third party who witnessed the abuse.

    https://news.sky.com/story/jimmy-savile-molested-brain-damaged-patient-10467601

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  140. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    No he’s right.

    And it’s not just Muslims taking advantage. This recent Cyprus rape was another example. My eyes rolled when I saw the victim was willingly screwing one of the guys involved.

  141. @Art Deco

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3265742/Jimmy-Savile-Prince-Charles-close-friendship-sex-abuse-bishop-Peter-Ball.html

    According to Ball, Charles let him rent a Duchy property — Manor Lodge in the Somerset village of Aller — after he had to resign. ‘The Prince of Wales has been wonderfully kind,’ the cleric said some years later. ‘He very kindly allowed me to have a Duchy house.’

    The bishop encouraged Prince Charles over his relationship with the former Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles Charles, he added, ‘was a loyal friend and I have immense admiration for him. He has been through horrific times and is a great person’.

    Charles, meanwhile, must surely have been advised to keep Ball at arm’s length — just as he had been advised to distance himself from Jimmy Savile.

    ‘The Prince did receive letters from the public complaining about Savile,’ says a senior aide. ‘But the writers were dismissed [by him] as jealous or mad.

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2012/11/24/the-prince-and-the-pedophile-what-are-charles-connections-to-jimmy-savile-obe/

    According to biographer Catherine Mayer, Prince Charles ‘trusted Jimmy Savile on everything from marriage guidance to checking speeches.’

    In fact, child molester Savile has enjoyed an unbelievable level of access to the Royal Family for the past 40 years.

    For instance, in the late 1980s, Savile was said to have acted as a type of marriage counselor between Charles and Diana, visiting their residence several times. At these visits, Dickie Arbiter, who took care of media relations for the Prince and Princess between 1988 and 2000 stated that, at these visits, Savile’s behavior was uncouth to say the very least.

    Arbiter stated:
    He would walk into the office and do the rounds of the young ladies taking their hands and rubbing his lips all the way up their arms if they were wearing short sleeves. If it was summer [and their arms were bare] his bottom lip would curl out and he would run it up their arms. This was at St James’s Palace. The women were in their mid to late 20s doing typing and secretarial work.

    In fact, it was reported that Savile actually stated he was introduced to the Royals in 1966 by Lord Mountbatten, a known pedophile and sexual pervert. In addition to Mountbatten, however, Greg Hallett, in his book Hitler Was A British Agent, also names Prince Philip as a pedophile.

    So, already, we have Savile, a notorious pedophile linked to other individuals of the Royal Family named as pedophiles as well. Prince Philip, of course, is Prince Charles’ father. Lord Mountbatten is largely considered Charles’ mentor.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227941/Jimmy-Savile-advised-Prince-Charles-appointment-royal-aide.html

    Jimmy Savile dropped by to see Prince Charles “when it suited him.”

    Jimmy Savile was consulted by Prince Charles on who to appoint for his personal Treasurer&Secretary.

    Lots of pedophiles were remarkably close to Prince Charles. Jimmy Savile, Bishop Ball, Lord Mounbatten, Prince Philip.

    These weren’t just men who met Prince Charles at a party. They were his INNER CIRCLE of confidantes.

    Very odd indeed….

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Almost Missouri
  142. danand says:
    @J.Ross

    J. Ross, from current NYT article:

    “Jeffrey Epstein trafficked and sexually abused girls as young as eleven years old, as recently as 2018, according to a new lawsuit filed against the late pedophile’s estate by Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise N. George.

    The lawsuit claims that girls as young as 11 and 12 were brought to his private estate in the Virgin Islands, known as Little Saint James (or simply ‘pedo island’) – where former President Bill Clinton and other high-profile guests reportedly vacationed, according to several Epstein accusers. Epstein kept a computerized database to track the availability and movements of his victims.”

    There are those deserve to be hung.

  143. @Intelligent Dasein

    This is nothing new in Britain. The only thing new is, in the past it happened at the hands of their own fellow (white) British citizens. The upper class has learned how to outsource its depravity to the Pakis, but its not as if they abandoned their moral principles. They never had any to begin with.

    Child labour in factories ended in the late 19th century. The Education Act of 1870 made schooling compulsory up to the age of 12 (the leaving age was raised in stages, reaching 16 in the late 20th Century). There was an entire century between the end of Victorian child labour, and widespread Pakistani rape gangs.

    The “cradle to grave” welfare state also included old-age pensions (from 1909), slum clearance and Council House building (from 1919). It doesn’t make sense to relate 19th-Century child labour to 21st-Century gang rape, still less to pretend that the two things, separated by 100 years, have a common explanation in the depravity of the upper classes!

  144. @jim jones

    I showed this thread to my Labour voting neighbour and asked why the BNP never succeeded and he said because that sort of mindset just leads to concentration camps.

    This guy’s mind has already been captured and locked in a camp.

  145. @Jonathan Mason

    According to the above video, a nurse saw Jimmy Savile abuse a mentally disabled patient.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/the-1998-letter-that-warned-police-about-jimmy-savile-828715-Mar2013/

    A REPORT INTO police forces’ handling of allegations against and information about Jimmy Savile during his lifetime was published today.

    It found that many mistakes were made by authorities in England between 1964 and 2012, which meant the late television presenter could continue with criminal activities unencumbered for decades.

    Here are excerpts of a letter that the Vice Squad at Scotland Yard received back in 1998.

    What can not (sic) be acceptable and must be stopped is Jimmy Savile’s paedophilia. I know he has pornography, but do not know which of his houses it is in. Regularly, he runs for the ‘Life’ charity in Roundhay Park in Leeds, he would say ‘Now I’ve had a run, I feel like some bum’. And would then later in the evening go where the rent boys hang out.

    He thinks he is untouchable because of the people he mixes with, and again I know from personal experience, that they find him amusing and the butt of many jokes. There are many more things I could tell you, but they are trivial in comparison to the main issue.

    It was not the only missed opportunity by police. Allegations were made against Savile as early as 1963 but no intelligence file or investigation followed.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/paul-gambaccini-claims-sir-jimmy-savile-used-charity-work-to-prevent-sexual-abuse-of-schoolchildren-8191761.html

    He alleged that at one point Saville was about to be exposed by a tabloid newspaper, but quickly arranged an interview with a rival tabloid which had the effect of stopping the negative article.

    Gambaccini went on: “On another occasion, and this cuts to the chase of the whole matter, he was called and he said ‘well you could run that story, but if you do there goes the funds that come in to Stoke Mandeville – do you want to be responsible for the drying up of the charity donations‘. And they backed down.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/26/jimmy-savile-abuse-stoke-mandeville-hospital-inquiry

    Jimmy Savile was given free rein to sexually abuse 60 people, including seriously ill eight-year-olds, over two decades at Stoke Mandeville hospital due to his gold-plated status as a celebrity fundraiser, an inquiry has found.

    Between 1972 and 1985, nine informal verbal complaints and one formal report were made about Savile by his victims. The investigation found that none of the complaints were “either taken seriously or escalated to senior management”. The one formal complaint was dropped by the victim’s father due to her serious ill health.

    The courts have actually been fairly strict in denying compensation to accusers. See below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/dec/16/jimmy-savile-appeal-court-compensation-scheme

    The court of appeal has upheld a compensation scheme set up for scores of women who say they were sexually abused by Jimmy Savile, paving the way for claims to continue.

    By October NatWest had processed 68 claims, and a further 131 remain to be considered. Of the 68 claims, 11 have been accepted at a total value of £353,125, including costs. A further 11 claimants have been offered reduced settlements amounting to £303,500; 36 claims (in the value of £1.14m) have been rejected and further information has been requested in the remaining 10.

    Out of 450 victims that alleged abuse by Savile, 199 sought cash compensation. That’s less than 50%.

    So your claim that “all” of Savile’s victims wanted financial compensation is incorrect.

    Most of them did not seek financial compensation.

  146. @Jonathan Mason

    Britain had a vast problem with the annoying “criminal classes” in the days before there were police forces, but in 1779, shortly after the United States were cut loose, Britain sent the first shipment of 1000 convicted felons by mandatory deportation to Botany Bay, Australia.

    Before then, people were sentenced to “transportation” to Barbados or the American colonies. The crimes committed by transportees were often so trivial that it suggests the scheme was simply a way of finding people to enslave for labour in the colonies, rather than an attempt to deliver criminal justice.

    But the problem of the criminal classes was never solved. A brief respite was obtained when millions of young men were sent to die in the trenches in World War I and thus prevented from breeding.

    The losses were spread across all classes. The sons of aristocrats were usually junior officers, and they were expected to lead their men from the front. The war memorials in public (i.e. private) schools record many of their names.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  147. @Almost Missouri

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/feb/04/uk.vanessathorpe

    Laurens van der Post, revered by Margaret Thatcher and Prince Charles, hid the fact he fathered a child with a girl of 14

    You can argue if that makes him a pedophile, but he was definitely a sexual predator.

    See more below.

    Mostert claimed her mother had been seduced by Van der Post, who was more than three times her age, after she had been entrusted to his care. She described the explorer’s tears when they first met, and alleged he had refused to answer her letters.

    The affair took place five years after Van der Post’s second marriage to Ingaret Giffard in 1949, when the girl, Bonnie, travelled to London to become a ballet dancer. Only a few weeks after her arrival in England she went back, pregnant, to South Africa. Jones’s research has shown the writer did, however, make financial provision for the baby, arranging to support her until she was 18 by secret deed of covenant.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  148. @ATBOTL

    The thing is, ATBOTL, that I’ve not seen that on THIS blog. I’ve seen people rightfully pissed off about feminism and feminists, like say, myself, but even on Kersey’s blog, almost all comments saying things to the effect of “what do expect with girls like that” did not mean that the girl “had it coming”. The comment is usually trying to get across that hanging with the wrong people (if you know what I mean) will result in a much bigger chance of something like rape or worse happening. That’s often very much the case, too. It’s not a matter of whether you, ATBTOL, think that one OUGHT TO be able to walk anywhere at night, but many of us respect reality.

    Comments are indeed made about how the victim was a Liberal and, yeah, probably deserved it. No, I don’t agree with that for the most part (there are a few, men or women, doesn’t matter, for which I do sometimes.) What if we are talking about some often-violent SJW Antifa girl (or guy) who got shot in the ghetto due to thinking “no, wait, I’m on your side!”? I have no empathy for him or her. The enemy is the enemy, whatever color. Some of the people discussed are your sworn enemy. That’s absolutely NOT the case with these young British girls, hence, there has not been ONE SINGLE COMMENT saying they deserved all this.

  149. @James N. Kennett

    Panties are one of the many items that can be used for self-strangulation. Shoelaces, belts etc are routinely confiscated to prevent self-harm. A mental patient who has attempted suicide might be given a paper nightdress and nothing else.

    I worked in acute psychiatric settings in my youth and have never seen a suicidal female patient deprived of panties for that reason, and if she was so suicidal that she was in a paper dress with no panties, she would definitely be on one-to-one observation with a female employee. Anyway, they would give her paper panties if she was in the habit of trying to strangle or choke herself with them.

    Your example of Savile molesting as seen by a nurse who was a patient sounds plausible, though she could have been confused and under sedation. Savile was in the habit of publicly doing that thing of kissing women all the way from the hand up to the shoulder, so he may have known that he was being observed.

    https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/the-paedofile-mail-on-sunday-splashes-with-vindication-of-raccoon-doubts-about-breadth-of-jimmy-saviles-crimes/

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  150. Hail says: • Website
    @anonymous1963

    David Irving spoke the following words twenty years ago this week (Jan. 12, 2000, to be precise), in a British courtroom:

    Like most fellow countrymen of my background and vintage, I regret the passing of the Old England.

    I sometimes think, my Lord, that if the soldiers and sailors who stormed the beaches of Normandy in 1944 could have seen what England was like at the end of the century, they would not have got 50 yards up the beach. They would have given up in disgust.

    Variants were repeated often in the 2000s and 2010s; its imagery is devastating because we suspect it to be true. Pat Buchanan, for one, has used variants of this line.

  151. Hail says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    I think I can close the book on this, as follows (feel free to keep the money, or donate it to the Unz Review general fund or Steve Sailer directly, on whose blog we are exchanging these messages):

    The photo is credited to the European Pressphoto Agency; the same image, unedited, is available on said organization’s website and credited to photographer Robert Vos; searching “Wilders 2009” will find it and others of the 40-man demonstration that day. The photo’s technical details are as follows:

    [MORE]

    epa01899826

    Muslims demonstrate against the visit of Dutch Member of the European Parliament Geert Wilders to London, Britain, 16 October 2009. Controversial right-wing Dutch MP Geert Wilders arrived in London 16 October , later he gave a news conference near the Houses of Parliament. Mr Wilders, who faces trial in his own country for inciting hatred against Muslims, was allowed into the UK after a previous ban on him was lifted. EPA/ROBERT VOS

    Photographer:
    ROBERT VOS

    Medianumber:
    01899826

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  152. Corvinus says:
    @istevefan

    “But BLM goes into overdrive when a White kills a black. They know instinctively what that represents and they won’t stand for it.”

    But the Alt Right goes into overdrive when a White is perceived to be anti-White. They know instinctively what that represents and they won’t stand for it.

    Two peas in a pod.

    “So I guess it is not surprising that our natural instincts for protecting one another from out-group aggression is gone.”

    Does that include yourself?

    “One outburst of extrajudicial justice early on would have save a lot of people grief.”

    Go ahead, start the decade out on the right foot.

  153. Rosie says:
    @J.Ross

    Rosie, Jane et al having nothing to say about any topic, but are always concerned with us, and reliably in the sense that we shouldn’t be us.

    That is a really unfair and particularly obnoxious comment on your part, and I have to assume you don’t even read my comments. But then I don’t usually read yours either, so I guess we’re even.

    In any event, I have never said or insinuated anything to that effect.

  154. Rosie says:
    @anon

    The same goes for Rosie, by the way. Although futile, as trolls never admit error and have no character.

    Good grief, what did I do now?

    I agreed with Alden that misogyny is rife on this site. That is a simple, verifiable fact, the civility of this thread notwithstanding.

  155. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    So anyhow, I would say that we are now confirmed for zero Pussy Hatters or even AWFLs speaking against Muslim grooming gangs, but … as it happens, I can name one.

    Ann Cryer was a lefty Yorkshire MP who did complain about girls getting groomed and raped in her district. For her trouble, she was threatened, insulted and ignored by her fellow leftists. So she quit politics.

    Right. So why would you expect any others to speak out?

    In the same way, you can’t expect male male Congressmen to speak out about anti- Whiteness after seeing what happened to milquetoast Steve King.

    Most people just aren’t that brave. That doesn’t mean they don’t have anything to say about it privately, and certainly that they don’t care about it.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  156. @JohnnyWalker123

    Okay, didn’t know about that one.

    I’d define pedophile as attraction to prepubescent children. Inasmuch as this girl fell pregnant, she was obviously not prepubescent. That doesn’t make it right, but that also doesn’t make it pedophilia. I also don’t consider Epstein and Prince Andrew “pedophiles” for the same reason. Exploiters, yes, and a criminal in Epstein’s case.

  157. @Rosie

    As mentioned, I do get the dubious privilege of hearing the private thoughts of some pussy hatters. They don’t differ from their public pronouncements. Muslim—and darker skinned generally—misbehavior is always excused with some variation of “we have to be sensitive to cultural differences”. (Indeed, Ms. Kheiriddin may escape this net precisely because she has some Arab or Muslim ancestry, so by that logic, her culture is not “different”.)

    • Replies: @Rosie
  158. Art Deco says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    None of this text wall demonstrates the point you’re attempting to make.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  159. Rosie says:
    @anon

    292, since you’re in the business of verbally redirecting people and demanding apologies, FYI “Dr. Robert Morgan” posted a comment (#419) waxing nostalgic about legal femicide in ancient Rome today, in case you’re interested. He didn’t come right out and say that men ought to have the right to kill their wives, but he certainly gives one reason to suspect as much.

    https://www.unz.com/article/ideas-on-maintaining-relationships-with-the-less-committed-in-a-dark-age/

  160. @JohnnyWalker123

    Whoa, wait, Prince Philip? Wut…?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  161. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    As mentioned, I do get the dubious privilege of hearing the private thoughts of some pussy hatters. They don’t differ from their public pronouncements.

    Hmmm. I dunno. I personally know many White male Republican, and I’ve never heard them say anything against non-white immigration. I still don’t think one can assume from that to know that they don’t oppose it, much less that they enthusiastically support it.

    In any event, I get the frustration with feminist silence on this issue, and it is warranted to some degree. I just think you have to bear in mind that White women are low on the PC totem pole. We know our place.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  162. @Jonathan Mason

    I accept your explanation based on your experience. Also Anna Raccoon’s account shows that the first allegations against Jimmy Savile were untrue.

    But once these false allegations were made, many other people came forward. JohnnyWalker123 (above) states:

    Out of 450 victims that alleged abuse by Savile, 199 sought cash compensation. That’s less than 50%.

    Some of those with no financial motivation may be attention-seekers, but I don’t believe this would account for as many as 251 complaints.

    Savile’s case can be contrasted with that of celebrities alive and dead who were accused by “Nick” (Carl Beech). Did hundreds of others claim “me too” against Edward Heath et al? As far as I know only one person came forward with an additional complaint – a woman who falsely claimed she had been raped by Leon Brittan.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  163. duncsbaby says:
    @Hail

    Is Colin Wright a Welsh name?

  164. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    First of all, Alden’s a chick,

    That’s obvious. Are you saying that women do not have agency and cannot behave as adults?

    they hear everything more severely than you say it. Second of all, she’s not a troll, her content beyond this gripe is solid.

    Where did I assert that Alden is a troll? You should read more carefully.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  165. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Kevin Spacey toasts you with his special royal charity mug and reminds all to kill with kindness.

    lol…Perfect.

  166. @Art Deco

    Let’s review the evidence.

    -Jimmy Savile dropped by to see Prince Charles “when it suited him.”
    -Jimmy Savile was consulted by Prince Charles on who to appoint for his personal Treasurer&Secretary.
    -According to biographer Catherine Mayer, Prince Charles “trusted Jimmy Savile on everything from marriage guidance to checking speeches.”
    -Jimmy Savile was a “marriage counselor” between Prince Charles and Diana.

    Despite Prince Charles receiving letters from the public complaining about Jimmy Savile, he continued the relationship. Despite Jimmy Savile aggressively sexually harassing the secretaries who worked for Prince Charles, he continued the relationship.

    There’s something odd about all this…

    Especially when you consider Prince Charles having very close relationships with other pedophiles (Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip, Bishop Ball), you really have to begin to wonder….

    When you hear about how the authorities looked the other way for decades as Jimmy Savile molested hundreds of children, you begin to wonder if Savile’s “powerful friends” may have had something to do with it. You begin to wonder if perhaps Savile’s “powerful friends” shared his “orientation.”

  167. @Almost Missouri

    Author Greg Hallett made that claim in his 2006 book “Hitler Was a British Agent.” He also named Lord Mounbatten.

    No one has corroborated Hallett’s claim about the Prince. However, his claim about Lord Mounbatten was recently confirmed by FBI files.

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/fbi-files-claim-lord-louis-mountbatten-had-a-perversion-for-young-boys/news-story/3647da9b3e938ae4aa5d0f3608639479

    The newly unearthed FBI files, The Times reports, reference a 1944 interview with Elizabeth de la Poer Beresford, Baroness Decies, a friend of the royal family.

    “She states that in these circles Lord Louis Mountbatten and his wife are considered persons of extremely low morals. She stated that Lord Louis Mountbatten was known to be a homosexual with a perversion for young boys,” the report said.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lord-mountbattens-lust-for-young-men-revealed-90swzmgms

    Lord Mountbatten’s ‘lust for young men’ revealed

    Given that Hallett made his claim against Lord Mountbatten back in 2006, he has some degee of credibility. So I consider it highly possible that he’s correct about Prince Philip, but more evidence is certainly desirable.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  168. @Art Deco

    1 day after the video was made, one of his accusers died by “suicide.”

    3 of Kevin Spacey’s accusers have died in the past year.

    Rather interesting “coincidence.”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  169. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @PSR

    The Economist magazine wants it.

    Therefore the politicians enable it.

    Simples.

  170. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Damn. Never put the pieces together in that way before. How long has this been going on? 100 years? Longer?

    For sure, one thing leads to another.

  171. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    You know where you can go.

    Inability to admit error: obvious.
    Utter lack of any character: confirmed.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  172. Dissident says:
    @J.Ross

    Alden wrote:

    I assume this thread will become like every other thread about sex and other crimes inflicted on White women and girls. Endless blaming of the victims and chining in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.

    Hail replied:

    I would be surprised if as many as one-in-five commenters made, or agreed with, comments even approaching your line “blaming of the victims and chiming in that 11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape by the Muslims.”

    Lot then replied to Hail:

    I remember zero like that.

    J.Ross then replied to Lot with the following densely rich paragraph:

    His name, religio-ethny, and professional title start with a J, and he was his usual psychopathic, unempathic self regarding the girls, and he made similar remarks about the accusers in the Weinstein affair.

    I shall now proceed to respond to J. Ross directly.
    1.) Citation needed.
    Can you link to even a single comment by the individual you were alluding-to (or even by anyone) which could reasonably be construed as implying that any “11-13 year old girls are physically and emotionally grown women who consented to rape”?

    2.) Concerning Alden’s lurid, fantastical characterization (quoted above) of comments that by all indications and available evidence exist only in her imagination, as well as your maligning of the regular comment-poster whom you coyly identified without explicitly naming (how very clever!), I note the following. Both are remarkably similar to the manner in which comments made by one Richard M. Stallman were tendentiously characterized, hysterically condemned, and weaponized against him by what appeared to be little more than a shrieking mob of SJW malcontents and virtue-signalers. Yet, in that case (which was discussed in a number of iSteve threads this past September), I distinctly recall you that you resolutely defended RMS against his attackers.

    3.) Concerning the allegations that have been made against J. Epstein and H. Weinstein, are there none that you at least find worthy of skepticism? Of all the accusers of both individuals, are there not any whose credibility you would at least question?

    4.) For you to characterize someone else as “psychopathic” and “unempathic” is for rather rich.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  173. @Rosie

    “I still don’t think one can assume from that to know that they don’t oppose it, much less that they enthusiastically support it.”

    So if someone’s public and private statements are utterly consistent, we still must not assume that they actually mean them? I hope I am misunderstanding you. Otherwise, we just invalidated all discussion of anything, ever.

    “bear in mind that White women are low on the PC totem pole. We know our place.”

    I am curious why the strong, independent Women of Feminism do not get off said totem pole if their position is so low?

    One might suspect otherwise that they remain because they actually like being beneath the power of exotic virility.

    Well, it’s an old story.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  174. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    When in 25 years’ time senior Labour Party officials are moaning and crying – which, assuredly, they will do – that the ‘unfair, monolithic British political system’ and ‘right wing press’ have ‘locked them out of power’ for generations, I just hope that the British electorate of future will have the sagacity to read these words.

  175. @anon

    Where did I assert that Alden is a troll?

    I did though, by using that thoughtfully-provided [Troll] button. (Thanks, Ron!) However, that was a localized use of that HTML control, as I’ve read plenty of good arguments, especially on the immigration topic, by Miss Alden. Her stuff in that MacDonald thread about calling the law on the commenters that brought up stuff she didn’t particular agree with, and the bringing-up of it back up now, is why I made use of this Troll button.

    There’s no call for trying to dox people, or worse, cause trouble for this site, just because you don’t agree. Do you think I have time to counter all the complete BS from the Communist writers and commenters that take up 1/4 of this site, Alden? There aren’t enough hours in the day. I’m not on the line with the John Birch Society, though. (Maybe I would be, if I thought they could help, haha …)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  176. @JohnnyWalker123

    Excellent comment Johnny.

    Demonization of other ethnic groups isn’t just limited to Muslims. Ghislaine Maxwell (who abused so many girls from vulnerable families) referred to the girls as “trash.” In general, it’s not a good idea to allow in a tribalistic population that is fanatically hostile to the host population. Tribalistic populations are HIGHLY predatory.

    Standout paragraph.

    White gentiles simply do not get that most people–pretty much everyone else in the world!; blacks, Asians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus even Latin Amercians–simply do not have the high levels of affective empathy that have been bred into Euro-Christians over the last couple thousand years.

    Even other peoples who have create decent high-trust societies like the Japanese, do not have that trust through the same “my neighbors are like kin” empathy that white people have. (They have some other cultural program which i don’t fully understand.)

    Whitey needs to get that through his–or even more oftern her–head: These people do not love you!

    And the ones with a chip on their shoulder …

  177. @James N. Kennett

    Before then, people were sentenced to “transportation” to Barbados or the American colonies. The crimes committed by transportees were often so trivial that it suggests the scheme was simply a way of finding people to enslave for labour in the colonies, rather than an attempt to deliver criminal justice.

    Not many were transported to Barbados, which did not accept women and children, and the number sent to America was much smaller than the number sent to Australia. Some were sent to Bermuda in the nineteenth century to work on the construction of the naval dockyard, which is still quite impressive. Today part of it is a touristic cruise ship destination and the case mates part is the local prison.

    The crimes may have been trivial, but in many cases they still carried the death sentence, so rather than implement the death penalty, many minor criminals were pardoned, but transportation for a number of years was kind of part of their probationary status as pardonees. Returning from transportation was, however, a capital offense.

    Transportation certainly was a business though, similar in some ways to the private prison industry today in the US. Prior to the Transportation Act of 1717, convicts were transported at their own expense or at the expense of the shipowners, who presumably recouped their costs at the destination, but after 17171 the Crown paid merchants to ship convicts to North America and other destinations. Convicts were never sent to what is now Canada.

    As far as meeting a need for labor, it appears that various jurisdictions accepted or did not accept transported felons based on the local need for labor, but the need for labor overseas does not seem to have been a factor in the sending country.

    Transportation ended in the 1950s as it was found to be expensive, ineffective, had no deterrent effect, was detrimental to the receiving communities, and crime was as bad as ever. After that criminals were just sent to prison for penal servitude.

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  178. @Achmed E. Newman

    To clear something up, no, I didn’t read Alden calling for someone’s doxxing (at least as I recall), but it was the latter thing, telling Mr. Unz that he should be worried about some discussion about underage women and invoking “the law”.

    I would think that unless someone is directly, writing very specific things that tell people to harm or kill people, there is no reason comments can’t be handled as they have here, pretty well, with that occasional bolded, italicized bit about “you’re repeating the same crap over and over …” I have never seen a real threatening comment that would be a reason to get the law involved, but maybe that’s because they were all taken care of quickly.

  179. @JohnnyWalker123

    Ghislaine Maxwell (who abused so many girls from vulnerable families) referred to the girls as “trash.”

    White trash is a fairly common phrase in the US denoting a white underclass. Trailer trash is a subdivision of white trash resident in trailer parks (prefabricated housing). Cracker, edneck and hillbilly are similar terms.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  180. @Jonathan Mason

    Transportation ended in the 1950s

    1850s?

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  181. @JohnnyWalker123

    Whoa, wait, Prince Philip? Wut…?

    Author Greg Hallett made that claim in his 2006 book “Hitler Was a British Agent.”

    That sounds like a well-researched and reliable source.

  182. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    So if someone’s public and private statements are utterly consistent, we still must not assume that they actually mean them?

    I don’t think you know enough pussyhats to come to that conclusion.

    In any event, the thing about repression of free speech is that its difficult to work out exactly what people think and why. I wouldn’t have thought this would be all that controversial around here.

    I am curious why the strong, independent Women of Feminism do not get off said totem pole if their position is so low?

    It might help if you would speak up against the rank misogyny around here instead of bickering with me about the pussyhats and their thoughts and feelings.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  183. Rosie says:
    @anon

    Inability to admit error: obvious.
    Utter lack of any character: confirmed.

    I note for the record that not one of those attacking Alden for a slight exaggeration has taken any notice of “Dr. John Morgan’s” suggestion that men should be allowed to kill their wives.

  184. J.Ross says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    My god Jonathan you’ve cracked it! This proves that Ghislaine must be innocent, just like a racist shouting an epithet during a physical attack is proving his even-headed lack of bias!

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  185. Art Deco says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    No it’s not. He’s a bloody actor, not some Bond villain with agents doing his bidding.

  186. @James N. Kennett

    Yes, I said before that all the Savile plaintiffs were seeking money, which apparently was not true of many, but there was hardly a single one who was not anonymous, so it is hard to know what to make of the complaints and of the character of the people making the complaints. Seeking attention seems unlikely if the complaints were made anonymously.

    They could have all been prisoners, for all I know, or could just have been calling in for a laugh. It was not like these people had all submitted sworn affidavits under penalty of perjury.

    Savile’s epitaph now is that he was Britain’s most prolific serial rapist and pedophile, but somehow I doubt it.

  187. J.Ross says:
    @Dissident

    1. The commenter’s proclivities are not only well known but have been demonstrated frequently and will be demonstrated again the next time the victim of something is white. However, your imposition of perfection in criteria stands, if we accept the imposition: I am as certain he did not exactly say those precise words (or even that age jump idea) as I am that he has expressed this failure of empathy in discussions of the opioid crisis, alcoholism, Arab victims, and plenty of other cases. He was relevant to the claim made by Alden because he was the closest thing to what she was talking about, though certainly not the exact thing.

    2. RMS isn’t a pedophile and his argument was an understandable (and typical) Stallmanism. You wish in your jealous heart that you could send an interlocutor out of your free MIT office in order to dance like a Bulgar, as do we all. RMS’s unpersonning had nothing to do with going after the “suicidal” handkerchief-waylaying red-shoed pizza enthusiasts and everything to do with taking down another famous straight white male.

    3. Simon Wiesenthal being a con artist rejected by even Vad Yashem means that the Nazis never committed maximally bad state actions, including to Wiesenthal? Not how it works, champ, not even with Caroline Yeager or David Irving. What exactly does it matter if there are bandwagoners to be sorted out by the prosecutor? That’s why we have prosecutors. I’m sure the prosecutor who wants a strong case will examine evidence we don’t have access to and use appropriate legal methods to — oh no, wait a minute, none of that will ever happen. But not because the accusers are all frauds or because the frauds matter. As an example of skepticism I regard anybody who retains the services of Gloria Allred as a liar and I offer the Razorfist videos on Michael Jackson. But no one can ignore how Michael Jackson was universally vilified and maligned versus the kid glove treatment received by, shall we say, a different class of person.

    4. Not trying to be cute but I didn’t get this. If Jews (and anyone else) are Americans, then they should not get to have their own laws and their own law enforcement. Legislation spun from claims, real and imagined, of Jewish and other injury are not some far-fetched claim I am worried about having to prove: it is the reason why hate hoaxes are hoaxed and freak shootings sre hyped. What is psychopathic on my part here? Is it the lying in blood line? It’s not my line, it’s an insulting emotional appeal from that activist/local authority figure, and I explained why it was probably not possible.

  188. @Rosie

    How many pussy hats must be known to draw a conclusion?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  189. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    How many pussy hats must be known to draw a conclusion?

    How much indifference to murderous misogyny in White male-dominated internet forums would warrant the conclusion that in fact the pussyhats are right about you?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  190. @Rosie

    That’s an interesting twist. We started out yesterday seeing that feminist pussy hatter are virtually silent about mass rapes by Muslims, but now today it turns out that “pussyhats are right” and it is the unraping me sitting quietly with his laptop who is the “murderous” misogynist.

    Well I’ll be damned! The things I learn here…

    • Replies: @Rosie
  191. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    but now today it turns out that “pussyhats are right” and it is the unraping me sitting quietly with his laptop who is the “murderous” misogynist.

    I didn’t say the pussyhats are right about you. I asked you how much indifference to murderous misogyny would warrant the conclusion that they are. You have responded to me three or four times now, but you haven’t said one word about Dr. Robert Morgan’s intimation that men should be able to kill their wives.

    Obviously, if his sort ever gets any power, rape will be the least of our worries. These secular misogynists are far and away the most menacing. The religious ones at least have some sense of accountability to a being higher than themselves.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  192. MEH 0910 says:
    @J.Ross

  193. MEH 0910 says:

  194. @Rosie

    “you haven’t said one word about Dr. Robert Morgan’s intimation that men should be able to kill their wives”

    Because I’ve never heard of Dr. Morgan and his intimation, and apparently neither has Google.

    “Obviously, if his sort ever gets any power, rape will be the least of our worries. These secular misogynists are far and away the most menacing. The religious ones at least have some sense of accountability to a being higher than themselves.”

    So, we have to be sensitive to cultural differences, eh?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  195. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Because I’ve never heard of Dr. Morgan and his intimation, and apparently neither has Google.

    Did I not post the link? Comments are still open on that thread, AFAIK.

    So, we have to be sensitive to cultural differences, eh?

    Look. Here’s my issue. You fault the pussyhats for not recognizing your superiority to Muslim men, then you fail to call out other men for misogyny that is even worse than anything in the Muslim world. (You can kill your adulteress wife, but only if there are four witnesses to the deed. As far as I know, there are no other circumstances where you can kill your wife.)

  196. “your superiority to Muslim men”

    If you believe this, I am flattered, but I didn’t say this and I do not believe this.

    “you fail to call out other men for misogyny that is even worse than anything in the Muslim world”

    On the one hand, we have the literal theology of people emigrating in their millions to the West. On the other hand, we have some lone individual so obscure and powerless that even Google’s all-seeing algorithm doesn’t detect him.

    Which subject is the priority?

    That’s the main reply, but I’m enough of a pedant to reply to your parenthetical as well.

    “(You can kill your adulteress wife, but only if there are four witnesses to the deed. As far as I know, there are no other circumstances where you can kill your wife.)”

    Four witnesses are required for a rape conviction. The evidentiary standard for adultery is lower. Much lower. If your wife is convicted of adultery, you don’t have to kill her. The court can arrange it for you.

    These are the circumstances for a public, judicial killing (“execution”). In private, in practice, depending on circumstance, you can kill your wife—or other female relation—for any reason or no reason. Consult your local maḏhab (مذهب)‎ for details.

  197. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    An addendum on how people first learned about the Muslim “grooming” gang problem in England:

    I’ve just come across Nick Griffin’s account of how he learned about it:

    In the early 2000s, a white, working-class Rotherham woman in her 60s, Marlene Guest, learned about what was going on, I presume via direct contact with some of the girls who were being raped. She began to raise the alarm about in 2004, but being some nobody old-woman alleging a great crime by Muslims (The Diverse), she was ignored.

    The BNP were the only ones to listened.

    The BNP looked into it, found Marlene Guest to be telling the truth, and to the extent anyone heard anything about Muslim “grooming gangs” active in the UK in the 2000s, it was through the yeoman efforts of the BNP and Chairman Nick Griffin himself, who personally pushed the cause; from everyone else, coverage blackout. But it all started with Marlene Guest.

    Marlene Guest was so outraged and sickened at the Muslim rape gangs targeting white, English girls, and the lack of any effort to stop them (except from the BNP) that she, a classic Labour voter type, became not only a BNP supporter but by 2010 even a BNP candidate in a local election (10.4% of the vote; this was still some years before the Rotherham scandal broke in the media, but I bet all those who chose to vote BNP in Rotherham in 2010 knew.)

    Nick Griffin describes Marlene Guest (1941 – 2014) as “The first and original Muslim grooming gang whistleblower.”

    • Replies: @Hail
  198. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    An addendum on how people first learned about the Muslim “grooming” gang problem in England:

    I’ve just come across Nick Griffin’s account of how he learned about it:

    In the early 2000s, a white, working-class Rotherham woman in her 60s, Marlene Guest, learned about what was going on, I presume via direct contact with some of the girls who were being raped. She began to raise the alarm about in 2004, but being some nobody old-woman alleging a great crime by Muslims (The Diverse), she was ignored.

    The BNP were the only ones to listened.

    The BNP looked into it, found Marlene Guest to be telling the truth, and to the extent anyone heard anything about Muslim “grooming gangs” active in the UK in the 2000s, it was through the yeoman efforts of the BNP and Chairman Nick Griffin himself, who personally pushed the cause; from everyone else, coverage blackout. But it all started with Marlene Guest.

    Marlene Guest was so outraged and sickened at the Muslim rape gangs targeting white, English girls, and the lack of any effort to stop them (except from the BNP) that she, a classic Labour voter type, became not only a BNP supporter but by 2010 even a BNP candidate in a local election (10.4% of the vote; this was still some years before the Rotherham scandal broke in the media, but I bet all those who chose to vote BNP in Rotherham in 2010 knew.)

    Nick Griffin describes Marlene Guest (1941 – 2014) as “The first and original Muslim grooming gang whistleblower.”

    • Replies: @Hail
  199. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    (This double post was caused by an error message, “Wrong Post Type,” something about Admin, post disappears, no edit window; please delete.)

  200. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Here is lifelong Rotherhamer Marlene Guest speaking as the BNP’s candidate in Nov. 2012 for the Rotherham by-election.:

    [1:50] BNP Interviewer: Okay, Marlene, I believe you dropped a bombshell on the BBC debate show this week. What happened?

    Marlene Guest: Well, they were talking about grooming, as if it were just a small incident. It wasn’t a small incident. Six years ago, I knew about it. A vicar [?] knocked on my door and dropped it in my lap. Although I knew about it, I just wanted an ‘in,’ I couldn’t get an ‘in’ to find out what was happening.

    Nobody wanted to know. Neither the council, nor the social services, nor the police, wanted to know. And the only thing I could think to do was, I held meetings in pubs all around my town to tell people what was going on and how to protect their kids, because you’ve got to protect your kids, and if you don’t know the signs — I mean, people couldn’t believe that this was happening.

    I was gobsmacked. A little Yorkshire town and this is happening. But it’s happening all over the country.

    A life working near asbestos is said to have contributed to Marlene’s death two years after this video recording in late 2014, at age 73.

    Her “six years ago” should be eight, 2004, by Nick Griffin’s telling; elsewhere I see there had been rumors as early as 2001, but they were unorganized, lacking real substantiation and advocates; it was really Marlene Guest’s activism that thrust the Muslim rape gang problem into the spotlight, it would become a mainstay of BNP activism already by 2005–6.

    If the BNP had not been subject to the anti-nationalist cordon-sanitaire, this case of Muslim sexual enslavement of white girls in organized crime rings could have been dealt with up to ten years earlier, with how many thousands of white girls saved from the worst kinds of abuse by Muslims?

  201. NickA says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Sadly, accusations like this linking Jimmy Saville to Satanic Abuse rather diminish the impact of the original article. Satanic Abuse, as best as anyone seems to know, was fictional.

    More than anything less, the fact that so many were taken in legitimately explains why social workers and police were so cautious about busting open the Rotherham (and other) grooming gangs.

    It is sometimes difficult to credit that professionals have acted honestly – but we need to accept that most of the time they do. There was no dishonesty that I know of linked to the cover-up that was Jimmy Savile.

    Good information on Satanic Abuse used to be here – http://www.smwane.dk/content/view/88/ – but it is now dead

    Some of it has survived here – http://www.whale.to/b/rooum.html

    From the reports we can still access eg: … Five weeks later, all nine children [from Orkney] were sent home on the orders of a mainland sheriff. The seized objects were also returned. They included a video of the TV comedy show ‘Blackadder’, a novel by the detective writer Ngaio Marsh, and a model aeroplane made by a boy out of two pieces of wood, catalogued as ‘one wooden cross’. The minister was asked to sign for the return of ‘three masks, two hoods, one black cloak’, but refused to sign until the inventory was altered to ‘three nativity masks, two academic hoods, one priest’s robe’.

    The campaign to set the W children home went on, and six of them are not back with their mother. The two youngest have been adopted by families on the Scottish mainland. The case was the subject of an Inquiry by the Scottish judge Lord Clyde, costing six million pounds. The Clyde Report was published in October 1992, and gave rise to a conference of lawyers, senior social workers and child care academics in November 1992. The findings of the Report are summarised at length in the introduction to the verbatim record of the conference, and Lord Clyde contributed to the conference himself, a long speech on ‘Lessons from the Orkney Enquiry’. Curiously, neither any of the conference speeches not (it seems) the Clyde Report itself make any mention at all of Satanic rituals.

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