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As we all know, the idea of a Ferguson Effect in which Black Lives Matter protests lead to blacks subsequently murdering each other in increased numbers is a racist hallucination.

The fact that Ferguson Effects keep happening exactly where Black Lives Matter has been most active — such as St. Louis, Baltimore, Chicago, and Milwaukee — just proves that, well, as the New York Times recently explained:

“Some places are overpoliced, and de-policing is actually a good thing.”

Another example of the nonexistent Ferguson Effect in action is Charlotte, North Carolina. You may recall last September’s Black Lives Matter riot in Charlotte:

Black Lives Matter Protest In Charlotte Turns Deadly
09/21/2016 10:55 EDT
The Associated Press

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Authorities in Charlotte tried to quell public anger Wednesday after a police officer shot a black man, but a dusk prayer vigil turned into a march that ended with the gunshot death of a protester.

The man was not shot by police who had massed in riot gear to keep the marchers outside an upscale downtown hotel, Charlotte officials announced on Twitter.

But the second night of violent protests, added Charlotte to the list of U.S. cities that have erupted in violence over the death of a black man at the hands of police.

Subsequently, homicides in Charlotte have gone way up:

Charlotte homicides are skyrocketing. What’s going on?

By Andrew Dunn | June 5, 2017

2017 has been the most violent year in Charlotte in recent memory.

Through this weekend, 37 people have lost their lives to violence in the city — not counting officer-involved shootings. The latest came Sunday evening in a shooting in the Derita-Statesville neighborhood. 34-year-old Lucas Lorenzo Baldwin was found dead of a gunshot wound.

The pace is staggering: Not even halfway through the year, the number of homicides has already come close to the full-year total of 2014.

At this time last year, there were only 17 homicides — and 2016 marked a six-year high.

Should the pace continue, 2017 would mark the third year in a row of an increasing number of killings.

The death toll has left police and politicians searching for answers. The cause of the spike in homicides is difficult to put a finger on.

 
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  1. The most disturbing letter of school violence you will read for a long time

  2. I blame Trump. And white people, of course.

    Charlotte is a nice, little city. I had to travel there a few times a year on business in the nineties. Such an easy place for someone flying in from the Northeast.

    These numbers, though modest in comparison to meaner places, must be shocking there.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Uh, Buzz Van Winkle. Not so little, or nice, and hasn't been for awhile.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  3. “The cause of the spike in homicides is difficult to put a finger on.”

    Hilarious.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, res
  4. @Buzz Mohawk
    I blame Trump. And white people, of course.

    Charlotte is a nice, little city. I had to travel there a few times a year on business in the nineties. Such an easy place for someone flying in from the Northeast.

    These numbers, though modest in comparison to meaner places, must be shocking there.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Uh, Buzz Van Winkle. Not so little, or nice, and hasn’t been for awhile.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Desiderius

    Well, I guess I was only in the nice parts, and a long time ago. To be honest, airport to car to downtown to hotel to headquarters isn't such a good sampling. My mistake, but those aspects sure were relaxed, polite and clean compared to where I was coming from.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  5. @Desiderius
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Uh, Buzz Van Winkle. Not so little, or nice, and hasn't been for awhile.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, I guess I was only in the nice parts, and a long time ago. To be honest, airport to car to downtown to hotel to headquarters isn’t such a good sampling. My mistake, but those aspects sure were relaxed, polite and clean compared to where I was coming from.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yeah, just saying the 90s were another world.

    Still some niceish places in Charlotte, but mostly has an overcrowded/overgrown feel.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  6. Not sure about this particular case, but it’s unlikely BLM is the main reason for the general increase in black on black gun violence over the last few years, more a factor that is compounding the problem. If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.

    The general line of causation seems to be: police shift towards a more hands-off, liberal approach to policing black areas -black on black violence increases and an increasing number of blacks end up being shot by police officers -BLM becomes active and local police become even more hands off, resulting in a further increase in black on black violence.

    Hence, the real problem is a general shift away from the more interventionist policing that came in during the 1980s and 90s, and a shift back to the liberal policing experiments of the late 60s.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @unpc downunder


    If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.
     
    BLM is a political movement with a large tranche of billionaire foundation cash, with support by our leading academic and media institutions. No local police force can just go arrest George Soros for sedition and treason, you need the DOJ for that.

    One of the main claims of BLM is that whites are committing just as much crime per capita as blacks are, but the eeevil racist cops are ignoring it. You can be correct in saying that BLM isn't the root cause, black envy of YT is, but envy has always been around. BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can't be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Achmed E. Newman, @MBlanc46

  7. anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article143078104.html

    When police found Kevin Ruben Marquez in the breezeway of an apartment complex off Central Avenue on Wednesday night, the year’s puzzling body count of youthful victims in Charlotte ticked higher.

    Marquez, 19, killed by a gunshot, became the city’s fifth teenage or child homicide victim of the young year. Those five young victims compared to two homicide victims 19 or younger

    They are on a pace to hit 90-100 homicides in 2017.

    My guess is that white homicides will be around 10% of the total. Charlotte is 1/3 black and 1/2 white.

    I suppose if you look at individual cases, there isn’t any single element (other than race) that would directly point to a reason. Especially if you don’t want to find it.

    Some of it is related to the backlash against mass incarceration and reluctance to jail blacks. Part of the BLM agenda

  8. @unpc downunder
    Not sure about this particular case, but it's unlikely BLM is the main reason for the general increase in black on black gun violence over the last few years, more a factor that is compounding the problem. If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.

    The general line of causation seems to be: police shift towards a more hands-off, liberal approach to policing black areas -black on black violence increases and an increasing number of blacks end up being shot by police officers -BLM becomes active and local police become even more hands off, resulting in a further increase in black on black violence.

    Hence, the real problem is a general shift away from the more interventionist policing that came in during the 1980s and 90s, and a shift back to the liberal policing experiments of the late 60s.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.

    BLM is a political movement with a large tranche of billionaire foundation cash, with support by our leading academic and media institutions. No local police force can just go arrest George Soros for sedition and treason, you need the DOJ for that.

    One of the main claims of BLM is that whites are committing just as much crime per capita as blacks are, but the eeevil racist cops are ignoring it. You can be correct in saying that BLM isn’t the root cause, black envy of YT is, but envy has always been around. BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can’t be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Maj. Kong


    BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can’t be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.
     
    I'm not usually the first to chime in behalf of Johnny Law in the comments, but I will here (and I'm also NOT a big union man). I don't think the collective bargaining has much to do with the actual small-scale behavior of the police.

    There are union rules, and there are policies of these police departments, but they can't, by definition, cover the spirit of the law/work-rules vs the letter of them. It's one thing for the chief to just pull manpower out of some neighborhood as a political move, or for the officers to have some kind of planned (maybe published) "slowdown" or what have you. Everyone will know about that, and the mayor or union leaders or the cops themselves can work it out.

    The actual small details that happen during arrests, chases and all that are more a matter of the cops' diligence and most of that means going beyond just the rule book, the police policies and procedures. I don't see why a cop would want to bother going above and beyond when all it takes is a small group of blacks with their phone cameras to make him look bad and give him some small chance of being the next viral youtube star, meaning possible job loss and worse.

    I would not blame them (those in cities with BLM pressure especially) in the least for spending (more) time in the donut shops, or even just being a by-the-book guy, which does not equate normally to really getting the intended job done. I don't think the union rules have much to do with this aspect of that job.
    , @MBlanc46
    @Maj. Kong

    I doubt that black resentment of whites is the primary cause. I'd wager that it's less self-control and future-time orientation compared with whites and Asians.

  9. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Desiderius

    Well, I guess I was only in the nice parts, and a long time ago. To be honest, airport to car to downtown to hotel to headquarters isn't such a good sampling. My mistake, but those aspects sure were relaxed, polite and clean compared to where I was coming from.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Yeah, just saying the 90s were another world.

    Still some niceish places in Charlotte, but mostly has an overcrowded/overgrown feel.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Desiderius

    Why, it's almost as if a concerted and sustained effort to destroy the U.S.A. with overpopulation via immigration and the resultant, incorrigibly incompatible mix of inhabitants has succeeded....

  10. @Maj. Kong
    @unpc downunder


    If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.
     
    BLM is a political movement with a large tranche of billionaire foundation cash, with support by our leading academic and media institutions. No local police force can just go arrest George Soros for sedition and treason, you need the DOJ for that.

    One of the main claims of BLM is that whites are committing just as much crime per capita as blacks are, but the eeevil racist cops are ignoring it. You can be correct in saying that BLM isn't the root cause, black envy of YT is, but envy has always been around. BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can't be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Achmed E. Newman, @MBlanc46

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Alfa158

    I've never heard that before, though it would not surprise me if such an assertion had weight in the black community. I usually hear it in regard to drug use, "black Twitter" has made much hay of calls for "rehab" for (white) opiate addicts, versus the response to crack (Black pols in the 80s were largely supportive of the WoD).

    Replies: @Altai, @al-Gharaniq

    , @Calogero
    @Alfa158

    If whites committed murder at the rate of blacks, why do so many nonwhites want to move into white neighborhoods? If they truly believed that we are all mass shooting serial killers, would they really want to live next door to us?

    , @res
    @Alfa158

    Is someone or some group pushing ideas like that? There seem to be some ridiculous beliefs in the black community and it would be helpful to have an idea of how those beliefs are originating and propagating.

    Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne

    , @Wally
    @Alfa158

    Or the leftist govt. stats trick of labeling Muslims & brown Latinos as 'white'.


    When that doesn't work they simply stop keeping racial / ethnic categories at all.

    , @El Dato
    @Alfa158

    That would have been really useful at the Charlottesville Dodge Prang Event.

  11. Steve, even though you must be really tired of being right all the time, please keep up the good work.

  12. @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    I’ve never heard that before, though it would not surprise me if such an assertion had weight in the black community. I usually hear it in regard to drug use, “black Twitter” has made much hay of calls for “rehab” for (white) opiate addicts, versus the response to crack (Black pols in the 80s were largely supportive of the WoD).

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Maj. Kong

    Though they may often look more wretched, heroin and opiate addicts are less dangerous than average. The type of person who takes crack, however, is more dangerous both before and during drug use.

    People who are depressed, defeated and have given up take opiates to try to feel more normal. People who love themselves too much and want to feel even more like the greatest take crack and cocaine. Taking opiates renders a person relaxed, cocaine makes a person agitated and filled with great energy.

    , @al-Gharaniq
    @Maj. Kong

    I wonder what the OD (and death from ODing) rates are for the white opiate addicts vs. black crack addicts back in the '80s. Oh, can't forget crime rates of white opiate addicts vs. black crack addicts.

    Honestly, I have no idea what they are, but I'm assuming they're not flattering for the BLM people.

  13. @Maj. Kong
    @Alfa158

    I've never heard that before, though it would not surprise me if such an assertion had weight in the black community. I usually hear it in regard to drug use, "black Twitter" has made much hay of calls for "rehab" for (white) opiate addicts, versus the response to crack (Black pols in the 80s were largely supportive of the WoD).

    Replies: @Altai, @al-Gharaniq

    Though they may often look more wretched, heroin and opiate addicts are less dangerous than average. The type of person who takes crack, however, is more dangerous both before and during drug use.

    People who are depressed, defeated and have given up take opiates to try to feel more normal. People who love themselves too much and want to feel even more like the greatest take crack and cocaine. Taking opiates renders a person relaxed, cocaine makes a person agitated and filled with great energy.

  14. @Desiderius
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yeah, just saying the 90s were another world.

    Still some niceish places in Charlotte, but mostly has an overcrowded/overgrown feel.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Why, it’s almost as if a concerted and sustained effort to destroy the U.S.A. with overpopulation via immigration and the resultant, incorrigibly incompatible mix of inhabitants has succeeded….

  15. @Maj. Kong
    @Alfa158

    I've never heard that before, though it would not surprise me if such an assertion had weight in the black community. I usually hear it in regard to drug use, "black Twitter" has made much hay of calls for "rehab" for (white) opiate addicts, versus the response to crack (Black pols in the 80s were largely supportive of the WoD).

    Replies: @Altai, @al-Gharaniq

    I wonder what the OD (and death from ODing) rates are for the white opiate addicts vs. black crack addicts back in the ’80s. Oh, can’t forget crime rates of white opiate addicts vs. black crack addicts.

    Honestly, I have no idea what they are, but I’m assuming they’re not flattering for the BLM people.

  16. I grew up two hours South of Charlotte, and have worked and lived there twice. Most recently I took a job in uptown Charlotte after the housing collapse. Power sector work was still going on up there. I had an apartment near the office, and used public transportation to get back and forth to work. I left for my real home on Friday after lunch, and returned Sunday evenings. I did this for three years.
    Charlotte was nice where and when one could avoid poor blacks and “homeless” whites. There was a substantial vagrant population living downtown, and panhandling was all too common. Public transportation made it easy for poor blacks to get uptown to harrass and beg from the more wealthy and mostly white, mostly young, mostly Northern, business class who worked there. I personally avoided the area after dark.
    It was an interesting experience. Our office fronted Tryon on the same block it intersected with Trade, right across the street from Wachovia, diagonal from Bank of America, just up the street from Wells Fargo. The majority of people who worked there worked at one of these banks, and were in their 20’s and early 30’s. They were died in the wool leftists, enjoying their privilege, but feeling an appropriate amount of white guilt, so much that I often saw them giving money to panhandlers without being asked; just walking up and giving them money. Buying an extra lunch and giving it to a panhandler was not uncommon, either. I watched one of the better known homeless blacks accept one such lunch, and immediately throw it down, hard, in the middle of a street crossing.
    Charlotte is desperate to be a big city, and the government seems to promote anything that gives that indication. Sometimes I believed they were complicit in the many political demonstrations one could see by walking out to the street to smoke, which several of us did regularly. (A side note is that I never once smoked a cigarette in peace in three years. There was always someone asking for a spare smoke. I was generous for the first couple of days.) PETA was there a lot, as was the SEIU. I think everybody was there when Ben Bernanke came to talk with the boards of the banks, and I mean everybody.
    The streets were shut down for certain events, such as just before the race, and vendors would set up, and a party atmosphere enveloped the city, right in front of the office. I walked to my apartment on those days, which wasn’t far, really. These were very white affairs that would turn dark when the sun went down.
    Memorial Day weekend was very, very black. The police would set up a remote command center in the plaza in front of BOFA, and there were a lot of extra police. I never was stupid enough to go there that weekend to see it for myself, but was content to read and hear the stories when I got back into town. In 2015 one black youth emptied an entire magazine from an AK-47 into the side of a building. In spite of it being recorded on cell phones, and the police having access to several of those recordings, the youth was never caught, to the best of my knowledge.
    I never once had a problem with a white person that didn’t involve cigarettes, but had several incidents with blacks. Blacks were responsible for nearly all the crime there. It would be a great place to live and work without them, but alas, that’s not to be.
    I just remembered something I witnessed. I was standing in front of the Suntrust location near the office one morning, and an elderly black woman using a cane was about to walk into the front door. A young black couple, very young, was walking by, and she stopped, and used her cane to whack the boy across his ass, which was covered only by his underwear, as his pants were below his ass. I don’t even know how he kept them up. She called him a “little hood rat,” and told him to pull his pants up. He called her names I wouldn’t repeat, and I thought for a moment he was going to hit her, but he didn’t. I held the door for her to go into the bank. The world needs more black women like that.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @RebelWriter

    "Blacks were responsible for nearly all the crime there. It would be a great place to live and work without them, but alas, that’s not to be."
    Sounds like every place I've ever lived.

  17. Maybe I’m jaded, but it still seems that relative to population Charlotte’s murder rate doesn’t really seem all that high. The city I live in is well ahead of that pace and is not a place that saw riots or any real BLM-type protest.

  18. “Some places are overpoliced, and de-policing is actually a good thing.”

    I’d love to know how many law-abiding blacks would honestly agree with that idiotic statement.

  19. @Maj. Kong
    @unpc downunder


    If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.
     
    BLM is a political movement with a large tranche of billionaire foundation cash, with support by our leading academic and media institutions. No local police force can just go arrest George Soros for sedition and treason, you need the DOJ for that.

    One of the main claims of BLM is that whites are committing just as much crime per capita as blacks are, but the eeevil racist cops are ignoring it. You can be correct in saying that BLM isn't the root cause, black envy of YT is, but envy has always been around. BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can't be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Achmed E. Newman, @MBlanc46

    BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can’t be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    I’m not usually the first to chime in behalf of Johnny Law in the comments, but I will here (and I’m also NOT a big union man). I don’t think the collective bargaining has much to do with the actual small-scale behavior of the police.

    There are union rules, and there are policies of these police departments, but they can’t, by definition, cover the spirit of the law/work-rules vs the letter of them. It’s one thing for the chief to just pull manpower out of some neighborhood as a political move, or for the officers to have some kind of planned (maybe published) “slowdown” or what have you. Everyone will know about that, and the mayor or union leaders or the cops themselves can work it out.

    The actual small details that happen during arrests, chases and all that are more a matter of the cops’ diligence and most of that means going beyond just the rule book, the police policies and procedures. I don’t see why a cop would want to bother going above and beyond when all it takes is a small group of blacks with their phone cameras to make him look bad and give him some small chance of being the next viral youtube star, meaning possible job loss and worse.

    I would not blame them (those in cities with BLM pressure especially) in the least for spending (more) time in the donut shops, or even just being a by-the-book guy, which does not equate normally to really getting the intended job done. I don’t think the union rules have much to do with this aspect of that job.

  20. It is easy to pick on blacks but when you look at the deterioration of the white community in terms of family cohesion, drug use, mental health, etc., just imagine what is going on within the black community. Everybody is freaking out these days; they are just further out along the curve. Obama thought he was stoking an ember when he was really throwing a match into gasoline.

  21. No one cares about the killings in Charlotte or Chicago or Baltimore. This is of no more general interest to the public, even to the public in those cities, than two tribes in New Guinea warring. It has interest only to specialists in anthropology. If Middle Class Americans were being shot this way, you would see the army in the streets. The fact that you don’t see the army in the streets is one more indication of our loss of any social solidarity in the US. And the loss is directly attributable to mass immigration, to groups like BLM which promote social divisiveness, to governmental and educational institutions which have destroyed any concept of “peoplehood” and replaced it with “citizenism” and a racial/ethnic spoils system. For most people really the question is “why should I care about this?”

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Sayless
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Cwhatfuture

    Agree. But ...


    “why should I care about this?”
     
    ... precisely because we don't have freedom of association, so we can't even engineer separation from dysfunction.

    You can be a white or Asian or Mexican guy in Charlotte minding your own business and this "gun violence" manages to find you.

    And in fact the leftists/globo-scum will make every effort to section-8 it into your--not their-- neighborhood and insiste that your--not their--kids get a big old dose of diversity.
  22. @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    If whites committed murder at the rate of blacks, why do so many nonwhites want to move into white neighborhoods? If they truly believed that we are all mass shooting serial killers, would they really want to live next door to us?

  23. Charlotte Observer headline, Sept. 9:

    Years of work, millions of dollars bring small yields at most challenged CMS schools

    Glossary:
    CMS = Charlotte Mecklenburg [County] Schools.
    Most challenged = black and Hispanic student body

    The discovery of the magic bullet that will close the achievement gap once and for all remains elusive.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Mark Caplan

    I can think of a few magic bullets that will close all the gaps, forever.

  24. @Mark Caplan
    Charlotte Observer headline, Sept. 9:

    Years of work, millions of dollars bring small yields at most challenged CMS schools
     
    Glossary:
    CMS = Charlotte Mecklenburg [County] Schools.
    Most challenged = black and Hispanic student body

    The discovery of the magic bullet that will close the achievement gap once and for all remains elusive.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    I can think of a few magic bullets that will close all the gaps, forever.

  25. @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    Is someone or some group pushing ideas like that? There seem to be some ridiculous beliefs in the black community and it would be helpful to have an idea of how those beliefs are originating and propagating.

    • Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne
    @res

    Nope. Pretty much been that way since I've been alive (born 1963). Back in the 80's it was 'AIDS was invented by the government', then later it was 'Snapple tea is owned by the Klan'. Then in the 90's it was 'Crack is a plot by the CIA', then it was 'Marlboro cigarettes is owned by the Klan'. All designed to keep the black man down, you understand.

    Black folks seem to like conspiracy theories for some reason.

  26. It’s really surreal when you come right down it.

    Day after day, minute after minute, the African proves that he is not an Englishman. Where he goes, he brings his incessant tribal warfare with him, whether he lives in a kraal or a government-funded apartment (which he has, of course, trashed in an unconscious effort to destroy it and bring about the existence of a kraal in its place).

    Yet everyone in power and many of the populace are obliged to ignore the glaring, plain, and simple truth, and twist themselves into knots trying to “determine” why these rather dark Englishmen are not acting anything like Englishmen.

    Twilight Zone.

  27. Gee, isn’t Charlotte one corner of the so-called “research triangle?” And therefore something in the “New South” that’s part of SWPL? Only, I presume the ‘inner city’ of Charlotte is a no-go zone for the hipsters.

    • Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne
    @VivaLaMigra

    No, the Triangle is Raleigh, Durham & Chapel Hill. About 150 mi north of Charlotte. Charlotte was always more of an industrial town, like Greensboro.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @VivaLaMigra


    Gee, isn’t Charlotte one corner of the so-called “research triangle?”
     
    No, it's just Raleigh to Chapel Hill to Durham and back, officially. Charlotte is over 100 miles from there.
  28. The cause of the spike in homicides is difficult to put a finger on.

    Translation: We’re not going to put a finger on the cause because it contradicts failed-narrative gumdrop favored by our liberal media/elite establishment.

  29. A very sad lesson for “Good Whites.” “Ferguson Effect” can affect them too.

    Philadelphia police have arrested two brothers for the shooting death of a father who was protecting his 2 year old daughter during a robbery and attempted carjacking in the city’s Spring Garden neighborhood.

    Investigators say a 16-year-old pulled the trigger, killing 38-year-old Gerald Grandzol with a shot to the face. A brother, 21-year-old Maurice Roberts, is also in police custody.

    A St. Joseph’s University alum, Grandzol, father of two, including a 5 week old baby, was highly involved in the community; Grandzol volunteered for Project HOME, served on a neighborhood organization and belonged to various civic groups, a neighbor friendly enough to fix children’s bikes, or to pick up the packages of those who had just moved onto the 1500 block of Melon Street.

    Clarke lamented that Grandzol’s life was cut short, and said city officials would continue to pursue solutions to violence in a city that typically records nearly 300 murders and more than 1,000 shootings a year. As of Thursday night, according to police statistics, the city had recorded 210 murders in 2017 — a 6 percent increase over the same point last year.

    http://6abc.com/police-father-died-protecting-his-daughter-in-spring-garden/2389354/

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/fathar-gerard-grandzol-murder-robbery-spring-garden-20170908.html

  30. @VivaLaMigra
    Gee, isn't Charlotte one corner of the so-called "research triangle?" And therefore something in the "New South" that's part of SWPL? Only, I presume the 'inner city' of Charlotte is a no-go zone for the hipsters.

    Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @Achmed E. Newman

    No, the Triangle is Raleigh, Durham & Chapel Hill. About 150 mi north of Charlotte. Charlotte was always more of an industrial town, like Greensboro.

  31. @res
    @Alfa158

    Is someone or some group pushing ideas like that? There seem to be some ridiculous beliefs in the black community and it would be helpful to have an idea of how those beliefs are originating and propagating.

    Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne

    Nope. Pretty much been that way since I’ve been alive (born 1963). Back in the 80’s it was ‘AIDS was invented by the government’, then later it was ‘Snapple tea is owned by the Klan’. Then in the 90’s it was ‘Crack is a plot by the CIA’, then it was ‘Marlboro cigarettes is owned by the Klan’. All designed to keep the black man down, you understand.

    Black folks seem to like conspiracy theories for some reason.

  32. @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    Or the leftist govt. stats trick of labeling Muslims & brown Latinos as ‘white’.

    When that doesn’t work they simply stop keeping racial / ethnic categories at all.

  33. @Alfa158
    @Maj. Kong

    Some Black people will tell you with perfect sincerity that Whites committ murder at the same rate as Blacks, but the authorities simply enter the cause of death on some death certificates as traffic accident instead of murder.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Calogero, @res, @Wally, @El Dato

    That would have been really useful at the Charlottesville Dodge Prang Event.

  34. @Maj. Kong
    @unpc downunder


    If BLM was the direct cause of the problem, the police would be cracking down on it.
     
    BLM is a political movement with a large tranche of billionaire foundation cash, with support by our leading academic and media institutions. No local police force can just go arrest George Soros for sedition and treason, you need the DOJ for that.

    One of the main claims of BLM is that whites are committing just as much crime per capita as blacks are, but the eeevil racist cops are ignoring it. You can be correct in saying that BLM isn't the root cause, black envy of YT is, but envy has always been around. BLM has contributed to restraining and dissauding the police, who can't be disciplined into proactive style thanks to collective bargaining.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Achmed E. Newman, @MBlanc46

    I doubt that black resentment of whites is the primary cause. I’d wager that it’s less self-control and future-time orientation compared with whites and Asians.

  35. @VivaLaMigra
    Gee, isn't Charlotte one corner of the so-called "research triangle?" And therefore something in the "New South" that's part of SWPL? Only, I presume the 'inner city' of Charlotte is a no-go zone for the hipsters.

    Replies: @NorthOfTheOneOhOne, @Achmed E. Newman

    Gee, isn’t Charlotte one corner of the so-called “research triangle?”

    No, it’s just Raleigh to Chapel Hill to Durham and back, officially. Charlotte is over 100 miles from there.

  36. @Cwhatfuture
    No one cares about the killings in Charlotte or Chicago or Baltimore. This is of no more general interest to the public, even to the public in those cities, than two tribes in New Guinea warring. It has interest only to specialists in anthropology. If Middle Class Americans were being shot this way, you would see the army in the streets. The fact that you don't see the army in the streets is one more indication of our loss of any social solidarity in the US. And the loss is directly attributable to mass immigration, to groups like BLM which promote social divisiveness, to governmental and educational institutions which have destroyed any concept of "peoplehood" and replaced it with "citizenism" and a racial/ethnic spoils system. For most people really the question is "why should I care about this?"

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Agree. But …

    “why should I care about this?”

    … precisely because we don’t have freedom of association, so we can’t even engineer separation from dysfunction.

    You can be a white or Asian or Mexican guy in Charlotte minding your own business and this “gun violence” manages to find you.

    And in fact the leftists/globo-scum will make every effort to section-8 it into your–not their– neighborhood and insiste that your–not their–kids get a big old dose of diversity.

  37. @RebelWriter
    I grew up two hours South of Charlotte, and have worked and lived there twice. Most recently I took a job in uptown Charlotte after the housing collapse. Power sector work was still going on up there. I had an apartment near the office, and used public transportation to get back and forth to work. I left for my real home on Friday after lunch, and returned Sunday evenings. I did this for three years.
    Charlotte was nice where and when one could avoid poor blacks and "homeless" whites. There was a substantial vagrant population living downtown, and panhandling was all too common. Public transportation made it easy for poor blacks to get uptown to harrass and beg from the more wealthy and mostly white, mostly young, mostly Northern, business class who worked there. I personally avoided the area after dark.
    It was an interesting experience. Our office fronted Tryon on the same block it intersected with Trade, right across the street from Wachovia, diagonal from Bank of America, just up the street from Wells Fargo. The majority of people who worked there worked at one of these banks, and were in their 20's and early 30's. They were died in the wool leftists, enjoying their privilege, but feeling an appropriate amount of white guilt, so much that I often saw them giving money to panhandlers without being asked; just walking up and giving them money. Buying an extra lunch and giving it to a panhandler was not uncommon, either. I watched one of the better known homeless blacks accept one such lunch, and immediately throw it down, hard, in the middle of a street crossing.
    Charlotte is desperate to be a big city, and the government seems to promote anything that gives that indication. Sometimes I believed they were complicit in the many political demonstrations one could see by walking out to the street to smoke, which several of us did regularly. (A side note is that I never once smoked a cigarette in peace in three years. There was always someone asking for a spare smoke. I was generous for the first couple of days.) PETA was there a lot, as was the SEIU. I think everybody was there when Ben Bernanke came to talk with the boards of the banks, and I mean everybody.
    The streets were shut down for certain events, such as just before the race, and vendors would set up, and a party atmosphere enveloped the city, right in front of the office. I walked to my apartment on those days, which wasn't far, really. These were very white affairs that would turn dark when the sun went down.
    Memorial Day weekend was very, very black. The police would set up a remote command center in the plaza in front of BOFA, and there were a lot of extra police. I never was stupid enough to go there that weekend to see it for myself, but was content to read and hear the stories when I got back into town. In 2015 one black youth emptied an entire magazine from an AK-47 into the side of a building. In spite of it being recorded on cell phones, and the police having access to several of those recordings, the youth was never caught, to the best of my knowledge.
    I never once had a problem with a white person that didn't involve cigarettes, but had several incidents with blacks. Blacks were responsible for nearly all the crime there. It would be a great place to live and work without them, but alas, that's not to be.
    I just remembered something I witnessed. I was standing in front of the Suntrust location near the office one morning, and an elderly black woman using a cane was about to walk into the front door. A young black couple, very young, was walking by, and she stopped, and used her cane to whack the boy across his ass, which was covered only by his underwear, as his pants were below his ass. I don't even know how he kept them up. She called him a "little hood rat," and told him to pull his pants up. He called her names I wouldn't repeat, and I thought for a moment he was going to hit her, but he didn't. I held the door for her to go into the bank. The world needs more black women like that.

    Replies: @Macumazahn

    “Blacks were responsible for nearly all the crime there. It would be a great place to live and work without them, but alas, that’s not to be.”
    Sounds like every place I’ve ever lived.

  38. Here in brutal Northern Cities like Chicago, Philly Black criminal murder and mayhem is nothing new, sow we’re a little more street smart and don’t get hustled on BlackLiesMatter protests, fake news, MSM Media Mafia monopoly “Narratives”.

    I highly recommend the Chicago street smart cop blog

    SecondCityCop

    Also Hey Jackass

    There is a small but growing Alt Right community here – everyone is extremely cautious about their privacy as we’re definitely behind enemy lines – but Chicago is a great town, so is New York City. New York gave us some tough guys

    Mayor Guliani
    NYPD chiefs Bratton and Kelly
    Donald Trump and…
    Me

    I must add that my experience with LDS Mormons have been mixed, they are nice people, make great neighbors – but they are total cowards when it comes to urban crime, racial reality or confronting the Lugenpresse, Neo Cons etc.

    Might as well call these folks the Church of Latter Day Sissies.

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