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From the Boston Globe:
The craft beer industry has a diversity problem
By Shirley Leung Globe Staff
July 26, 2019Does craft beer have a diversity problem?
Of course it does.
It’s almost as if white people, despite their innate lack of diversity, are more interested in diverse things, like local craft beers, while The Diverse tend to prefer homogeneous mass market beers.
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
… Given that big beer makers for decades courted male consumers with sexist TV ads featuring women in bikinis, it perhaps surprises no one that the craft beer business has become a haven for white males — most of whom happen to be hipsters.
No haven for white males!
How soon until they come for Bill James and replace him with a black woman who doesn’t like baseball or statistics but does have more intersectional Wokemon points than ol’ Bill?
Sadly, what counts as diversity in this industry is the clean-shaven minority mixing with the bearded majority.
It can be jaw-dropping to see how monochromatic its consumers are: Of craft beer and hard cider drinkers, whites account for 77 percent of the market, while Hispanics are 10.6 percent, blacks constitute 5.4 percent, and Asians are 5.1 percent, according to new data from the consumer insights firm MRI-Simmons.
Jaw-DROPPING statistics!
Maybe Shirley Leung is auditioning for Bill James’ job with the Red Sox? She’s not black, granted, but she doesn’t like thinking about statistics, so that’s a start.
Dog-eating and Cat-eating have Chinese problem.
Don’t craft beer companies generally start when a couple of guys put a tiny company together? What’s stopping anyone from starting her own craft beer company and trying to make a go of it? (And then we’d see articles about the patriarchy not distributing their beer.)
Leung is a Chinese surname.
To paraphrase the late Joseph Sobran, diversity is legalized discrimination against white men.
What’s next? Can we expect an article about the Mormon church’s diversity problem?
Smh. So racist.
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Steve has figured out how to hack the Taki most popular top 5 list by retweeting his own tweets about his recent Taki articles all at once.
Why aren’t
colored peoplepeople of color criticized for not being sufficiently diverse in their taste in beer.If they don't like "white" stuff, it's because you're excluding them. Somehow.
If you like their stuff, you're culturally appropriating.
Once you make the "white" stuff in such a way that they like it, it's not "white" anymore and doesn't count.
QED
Leung has 'cause and effect' inverted. It's not that craft brews have a diversity problem, it's that, as you say,
colored peoplepeople of color are not diverse in their "taste" for craft brews.It's almost as if--although race doesn't exist--race matters when it comes to behavior/conduct preferences and proclivities. Apparently some things are more than skin deep...
But I think Zima (also a "fortified" malt product) sold so poorly among ALL racial groups that mentioing the name "Zima" or a shot of an actor holding a bottle became a running joke. EVERYBODY thought Zima was a joke.
Another Becky gets what was coming to her:
“Top Democratic Fundraising Staffer Allison Jaslow Out After Hispanic Caucus Reportedly Demanded Person Of Color Be Appointed”
“Allison Jaslow, who served as the executive director of the DCCC, announced her resignation at an all-staff meeting, according to Politico. The move reportedly comes after two Hispanic lawmakers, Democratic Texas Reps. Vicente González and Filemon Vela, called for Jaslow’s resignation Sunday, saying the committee needs to be run by a “person of color.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/29/dccc-staffer-cheri-bustos-resigns-person-of-color-report/
Nah. That’s just crazy talk.
NAMs are apparently under the impression that they are successful without White support and that White people like them. Call it a pitfall of unearned success. Relearning the essential lesson is going to be difficult.
Sigh … another Native American succumbs to alcoholism.
Perhaps Miss Leung will find some diversity more to her liking if she would branch out just a tad to include Craft Malt Liquors.
There is no “diversity” problem here. This is racist dog whistling. The author can’t come out and directly say this, so she invents some kind of bizarre nonsensical slight against her group (beer discrimination), and then responds to it; she uses an imagined injustice to justify attacking another group. That’s usually how this kind of racism works. They’ll imply some kind of discrimination where there is none (or insult where there is none) and then slander their racial/ethnic enemies, disproportionately white men. They pass their racism off as merely responding to injustice, justifying their response and bathing it in virtue, which also makes it more difficult to respond to (you aren’t against fighting injustice are you?). Of course, I can’t say Baltimore has a crime problem without being called racist by CNN, even though the situation is exactly analogous – and more relevant to daily life. I also can’t say immigrants litter a lot, either. And I certainly can’t say any other race is over-represented in XYZ (Indian store clerks, Chinese buffet restaurant owners, Mexican food cart proprietors, Somali cab drivers, etc). Funny how that works. But we can all say “white man bad” in all of its glorious combinations.
Normally, this would piss me off, but the Globe has been struggling for a while. The paper may have gotten a Times-like bump in circulation from lefties wanting to read the latest Trump hatred, but it won’t last. At papers like the Globe, the Times, LA Times, Chi Tribune, etc., someone high up the food chain has to OK this ridiculousness, and I’m a firm believer that while it may get worse before it gets better, America just isn’t like Venensula, et. al.
As far as solutions, a great start would be criminalizing libel. It’s not hard to tell if something is or isn’t true. Or hell, maybe even liberalize it to go with the full Aristoltlean (sp.?, correct philospher?), that it’s legal to say it can or can’t, would or wouldn’t, will or won’t.
'Gweilo' (or gwailouh or numerous other romanizations) is a term of middling obnoxiousness (its connotation is something like 'foreign ghost' or 'foreign devil'). It's still fairly widely used here in Hong Kong, not least by craft brewers, obviously.
In spite of its deep mediocrity as a barley-based beverage, Gweilo beer is now widespread here. It would be interesting to analyse the effect of its name on its popularity.
... of this fine craft beer
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I’m sure those hipster White guys think they’re distinct from the rest of us White folks. So, if there must be misery, I hope they get it good and hard.
So aside from the unusually low black number, this pattern matches the approximate distribution of the Over-21 population of the US. Over-21 is still much whiter than the under-21 population.
How is this ‘jaw-dropping’? Does Mizz Leung have no idea what the demographic breakdown of the adult population by race is?
Instead of trying to get Blacks to drink more booze we should probably encourage whites to consume less alcohol.
Her consumer by race percentages are roughly accurate reps of the US population! Blacks are underrepresented but the rest are close to par.
And you know damn well that Chinese Leung noticed that Asians are accurately repped at 5% of craft beer consumers. She saw that number and still went ahead and wrote the article. What a bitch.
FAKE NEWS.
I don’t know about this one. The craft beer scene seems like a bunch of metrosexual hipster-doofus stuff to me—all flannels and man-buns and the smell of musty laundry. It’s an arrogant preppy thing. I’m taken to believe these guys are pretty incipiently on the Left. They would be all about diversity if you asked them.
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
I enjoy Craft Beer. So much so I haven’t bought a mainline domestic six pack (Budweiser, Miller, or Coors) in over a decade. I’ve been to craft breweries in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and one offs in other states my wife and I have visited.
Are there brewers and bar staff that meet the hipster stereotype? Yes. But unlike Nike, they are smart enough to know NOT to alienate their customer base. They want you to:
Come in
Drink beer
Leave with a growler, six pack, or bomber of their beer
Return with friends to drink more of their beer
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The worst that will happen is some beer nerd brewer will talk your ear off about their brews. Most places have TV screens up and have a more modern “working man’s tavern” vibe, without the dank.
Give one a try. If I’m wrong post back and tell me. The only one that was out and out lefty was the brewery we went to where the Roller Derby gals were having a personal Pride Night and the brewery hosted Drag Queen brunches. We haven’t been back since.
The craft beer industry is the result of renegade home brewers who, until 1977, flouted Federal law to brew beers outside of the monolithic American Light lager style that dominated the industry. Prior to prohibition, America had a thriving and diverse "craft beer" industry. Most towns had small breweries that catered to the local community and regional styles varied greatly. Immigrants from the ale producing countries (England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc...) brought their styles here, while immigrants from the lager producing countries (Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, etc...) did the same. The result was the most varied beer culture in the world.
Prohibition destroyed that culture. Most of the distinct regional breweries died and what remained were mostly breweries founded by European immigrants. The American lager is a version of European Pilsner, though less flavorful and less aggressively hopped. This style became dominant. Even though prohibition was repealed, home brewing remained illegal until 1977, which marks the beginning of the "craft beer" revolution. As someone mentioned earlier, most of the early craft breweries were founded by home brewers who wished to bring the beers they loved to market. Still it was difficult, they had to fight regulations and barriers designed to favor big breweries and, of course, those big breweries did not welcome competition. The history of craft beer post 1977 is not one of fickle hipsters jumping on the latest fad, but one of passionate entrepreneurs fighting to bring what they love to others.
The original beer culture in America has been mostly restored and, in American fashion, these brewers are experimental, push style boundaries and are responsible for greatly expanding the incredible breadth of beer. Go to any "craft" brewery that is loved by locals and you will find a dedicated group of regulars who simply love beer. Few are hipsters and politics rarely matter. Sure, some hipsters are there but most will move on to the next fad, what remains are regular people who just crave a good pint.
Cheers,
Jeremy
White men are enjoying … *bated breath* …. craft beeer and here’s why that’s a problem.
How do we fix this?
This is like saying,
Is she winking while she’s typing this or is she just clueless?
That said, the content of this piece bothers me less than the tone. The issue seems contrived, but the attitude displayed by this writer is unbearably arrogant and presumptuous. Perhaps she's angry because she isn't hot enough to attract one of those Trophy White Boyfriends all the hot Asian chicks seem to have (yes, I said this to just be offensive, but there's probably a germ of truth in it).
Everyone knows that White people having any activity of predominantly White people ist verboten.
It is beside the point that non-Whites are not into craft beer or national parks.
The point is that there must NOT be any White spaces.
We will hunt the last White man down and force Diversity down his throat. Whether the Diversity likes it or not.
It’s Who We Are.
You made antecedent [White man] and pronoun [his] agree. By doing so, you triggered SJW's everywhere. How do you know this particular "man" prefers a masculine pronoun, or any singular one at that? Could be he/she/it identifies as one of [at least!] 56 other "genders," or no gender at all. How insensitive, uncaring, and intolerant of you!
As someone who’s been called that name innumerable times, both to my face and behind my back, I have earned the right to tell you it’s a pretty lousy beer.
‘Gweilo’ (or gwailouh or numerous other romanizations) is a term of middling obnoxiousness (its connotation is something like ‘foreign ghost’ or ‘foreign devil’). It’s still fairly widely used here in Hong Kong, not least by craft brewers, obviously.
In spite of its deep mediocrity as a barley-based beverage, Gweilo beer is now widespread here. It would be interesting to analyse the effect of its name on its popularity.
DarkieDarlie?It’s more like: “Given that romance novel publishers have courted women with sexist photos of muscular hunks on the covers…”
That said, the content of this piece bothers me less than the tone. The issue seems contrived, but the attitude displayed by this writer is unbearably arrogant and presumptuous. Perhaps she’s angry because she isn’t hot enough to attract one of those Trophy White Boyfriends all the hot Asian chicks seem to have (yes, I said this to just be offensive, but there’s probably a germ of truth in it).
“. . . it perhaps surprises no one . . .”
What a labored and lame construction. Why couldn’t she have just said “it is unsurprising . . .”
Nah. Fancy Asians – who I assume are a part of your “The Diverse” construct – are very SWPL and are found too frequently at “local craft” breweries.
Not all that different from the Japanese and the Chinese being some of the biggest consumers of expensive French wines (the Japanese because they are tradition- and perfection-obsessed and the Chinese because they crave status consumption).
colored peoplepeople of color criticized for not being sufficiently diverse in their taste in beer.Could malt liquor be redefined as “craft beer.” Diversity problem solved.
I'm not sure about the demographics of Schitz buyers, but Colt 45 and Mickey's are very much a black thing.
Another thing about blacks getting into the craft beer biz is that for them, it's highly frowned upon by their black social betters. I'm sure everyone heard at some point or another about an abundance of liquor stores in the ghetto, but not as many in white neighborhoods. I just saw it back in the day from black comedians, but Billy Dee Williams caught a lot of crap for being the Colt 45 pitch man.
Or than again, who knows? Maybe blacks just don't want to pay an extra 3-4 bucks a six pack for craft beer, even if it is made by a brother.
It already exists, it"s called a Helles Bock.
ABV: 6.3 to 7.5
IBU: 23-35
SRM: 6-11
It is a strong, pale lager, albeit a little hoppier than a malt liquor. Still, the high residual malt, and somewhat sweet finish, tempers that a lot. Packaged and marketed correctly it could be a hit.
Cheers,
Jeremy
I believe the correct term is “Hipster-Americans,” or “People of Hip” (“PoH” for short).
You have to admit it’s an eerily consistent pattern . . . the things white people like to do, tend to have mostly white people doing them.
How do we fix this?
How is this 'jaw-dropping'? Does Mizz Leung have no idea what the demographic breakdown of the adult population by race is?
She is overreaching, stretching her interpretation of data to fit her predetermined conclusion. (She is also being disingenuous if she knows better.) Classic confirmation bias, her process could be written into an algorithm. Maybe the folks over at Weird Magazine should write a story about it.
What is most disturbing about this and every other story like it is how anytime anyone sees a majority of White people enjoying something together, conventional wisdom says that it must be broken up.
The worst racism today is anti-White racism, and apparently most people haven’t caught on to this fact yet.
Well, it was never ‘craft’ beer, but back in the 70s Schlitz was the shits among beers. I believe it was the second highest selling beer, and then (according to an interesting article I read) the family that owned the biz skimped on the ingredients to maximize profits, so what you have now is current Schlitz.
I’m not sure about the demographics of Schitz buyers, but Colt 45 and Mickey’s are very much a black thing.
Another thing about blacks getting into the craft beer biz is that for them, it’s highly frowned upon by their black social betters. I’m sure everyone heard at some point or another about an abundance of liquor stores in the ghetto, but not as many in white neighborhoods. I just saw it back in the day from black comedians, but Billy Dee Williams caught a lot of crap for being the Colt 45 pitch man.
Or than again, who knows? Maybe blacks just don’t want to pay an extra 3-4 bucks a six pack for craft beer, even if it is made by a brother.
However, I think it is also a matter of taste. Most craft brews tend to be high in hops, which are bitter and not easy to guzzle down. Blacks prefer beers that are more "sessionable" (meaning that you can drink a lot quickly and easily). Native African beers lack hops entirely.
Also the atmosphere of most brew pubs is not to black's liking.
It's interesting at that the "forty" is considered low rent but the "growler" is upscale.
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
It’s good though when a bunch of white liberals are just going about their business convinced they have ticked all the appropriate woke boxes then BAM out the blue they get whacked by the loons. If it makes just a couple of them have an epiphany about what is really going on that can only be good. This is a slow process.
I’m glad they included hard cider in this conversation, as we are witnessing a craft-hard-cider-renaissance. Is there a whiter drink than hard cider? A: No, there is not.
"Top Democratic Fundraising Staffer Allison Jaslow Out After Hispanic Caucus Reportedly Demanded Person Of Color Be Appointed"
"Allison Jaslow, who served as the executive director of the DCCC, announced her resignation at an all-staff meeting, according to Politico. The move reportedly comes after two Hispanic lawmakers, Democratic Texas Reps. Vicente González and Filemon Vela, called for Jaslow’s resignation Sunday, saying the committee needs to be run by a “person of color.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/29/dccc-staffer-cheri-bustos-resigns-person-of-color-report/
Everyone please recall that it’s the whites who are racist.
Craft Beer has the same problem everyone else has – an insane, not fit for purpose media.
To paraphrase the late Joseph Sobran, diversity is legalized discrimination against white men.
What's next? Can we expect an article about the Mormon church's diversity problem?
I’m not a Mormon, and I know they’ve already had those.
Whites are even racist toward whites. E.g., Ed Rogers in Washington Post, commenting on Democrats’ debate: ” a clutch of tiresome white guys”.
first they came for the knitters, and I did not speak out because I don’t have yarn.
then then came for the NASCAR fans, and I did not speak out because I don’t like race cars.
Then they came for the craft beer brewers… and there was no one left to speak for me.
Someone upthread said this is all about breaking up gatherings of white people. That's exactly what it is.
It's paranoid projection. When minorities get together in their exclusive gatherings it's often to plot mischief against the majority, and so they naturally assume the majority is secretly conspiring against them too.
They refuse to believe that white people just want to have fun.
How absolutely dare they suggest that an investigative journalist should do their own investigating!
Someone should do a followup article on the lack of diversity within the craft dim sum industry.
Good. The craft beer trend has been responsible for the rise in popularity worst style of beer to plague mankind – the IPA.
If you can get it in the US, I recommend Worthington White Shield, a "bottle-conditioned" (i.e it finishes fermenting in the bottle) beer. You can use the yeast left in the bottle after pouring for your own home brew.
https://protzonbeer.co.uk/beers/2013/07/worthington-s-white-shield
Craft beer is generally bad anyway. It seems more about fashion.
I find these craft breweries are far more likely to sell a good cider than a good beer. If I order a cider I’m not at risk of getting something ruined by those piney hops the craft brewers love to administer at triple strength.
http://beersmith.com/blog/2016/08/31/using-hop-extracts-for-beer-brewing/
Very easy to o.d. in a small batch of wort.
Also proper (un-squashed) hops are hideously expensive, bulky, and don't keep at all well (against light, temp. and time).
So initially the in-your-face hopping might have been intended to impart an air of no-expense-spared quality to otherwise indifferent or incompetently-produced micro-brews (and probably still serves that purpose) until people caught on that it was just another cheapish industrial chemical.
I want to know how much longer Kraft will be able to market “White American” cheese.
Whiteness renaissance now! Bring back mead!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/megykarydes/2017/01/27/the-rise-of-mead-the-craft-movements-next-big-thing/#211cd0a7a50f
The way I interpret her statement is that only white men like to look at women in bikinis. The rest prefer to see them fully clothed.
So, what he’s suggesting is that there might be a growing market for Craft Malt-Liquour?
No, Steve, no haven for Hipster White Males. I’m down with that.
The Boston Globe is following in the NYT footsteps of finding more and more obscure areas to get offended.
They should start selling it in a 40. Problem solved.
Of course ABV alone doesn't tell the full story - "malt liquor" didn't really taste any different than an ordinary macrobrew because the extra alcohol was produced by adding tasteless (and cheap) sugar to the unfermented beer - this then fermented into higher alcohol without changing the taste.
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
In my opinion you’re missing out on some great beer with that attitude.
I enjoy Craft Beer. So much so I haven’t bought a mainline domestic six pack (Budweiser, Miller, or Coors) in over a decade. I’ve been to craft breweries in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and one offs in other states my wife and I have visited.
Are there brewers and bar staff that meet the hipster stereotype? Yes. But unlike Nike, they are smart enough to know NOT to alienate their customer base. They want you to:
Come in
Drink beer
Leave with a growler, six pack, or bomber of their beer
Return with friends to drink more of their beer
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The worst that will happen is some beer nerd brewer will talk your ear off about their brews. Most places have TV screens up and have a more modern “working man’s tavern” vibe, without the dank.
Give one a try. If I’m wrong post back and tell me. The only one that was out and out lefty was the brewery we went to where the Roller Derby gals were having a personal Pride Night and the brewery hosted Drag Queen brunches. We haven’t been back since.
To the contrary, I'd say a full 85%+ of craft beers I've tasted have ranged between awful and undrinkable to just unpleasant. The packaging is often loud and distracting.
I often like traditional European beers however.
De gustibus . . .
Because of systemic racism you numb nuts!
By the way, the “right” kind of white people no longer drink beer, craft or otherwise. Heck, they don’t even drink wine! Because of all the calories. And because of some kind of paleo- or keto- or whatever kind of diet is in vogue.
But, boozing is fattening. Not because of the carbs and calories (although those do add up) but simply because alcohol stimulates the appetite and diminishes the brain signals that say, "Stop, you've had enough."
Tea totaller reporting in! The new thing for whites is yoga, which has a diversity problem.
I am 100% positive the white male makers of craft beer would love every diverse person in America to begin drinking their beer. If only the stores would agree to sell it to diverse people, our problem would be solved. We can dream.
It is amazing how as the news business has declined, that race coverage has increased. It is a hell of a lot cheaper to have one writer put her deep thoughts about race than it is to actually go out and do reporting on local corruption.
Those obsessed with racism seem to be the only significant white supremacists around today. Sure, there are a few cranks lurking around but they lack any power, while those who insist that everything is about race have a lot of power and seem to be motivated by resentment and rage or irrational, abstract guilt. Funny how every difference in taste, desires or inclinations among "minorities" from SWPL is seen as proof of racism. Could this reveal a sublimated belief that SWPL is the measure of what is good? Likewise, if one believes that all disparate outcomes are due to white privilege and racism, is this not a tacit admission of "white superiority"? Of course, it never goes the other way. Those whites who appreciate and admire the culture of others are reviled as cultural appropriators. The idea that Emmett Miller or Hank Williams genuinely admired the creativity and freedom of black culture, and honored it in their way, is incomprehensible to them.
Cheers,
Jeremy
The formula is a) identify a business or product that has appeal to a large number of consumers, b) investigate the racial identity of producers, c) once it’s discovered they are mostly not black or latino, declare there is a ‘problem.’
At the core, the progressive instinct to declare any industry or business that is not ‘diverse’ enough is just a way of saying more POCs need to be cut in on the action. If the business is big enough, they will publicly make the right noises about redoubling their efforts to embrace inclusion. It’s like paying protection money to the mob.
So craft beers attract white male consumers because Old Milwaukee once had an advertisement with the Swedish bikini team ?
The only time beer companies used girls in bikinis to sell beer was way back in 1991. And they were quickly attacked blocked from network TV. The leading beer company typically used horses or a cute dog to sell their beer.
Craft beer consumers are 23% non-white and 76% white. If this is too white , then what is the acceptable diversity required to be acceptable ? Certainly the attendance at NFL games is more than 80% white, even in a Baltimore and Philadelphia the patrons are whiter than a GOP convention. One could do this same exact article and replace craft beer consumers with many other products , such as vaping and heroin.
I know nothing about the subject, but this strikes me as vanishingly unlikely.
Most craft beer seems to taste like dish soap. Lots of mass-produced foreign beers (Czech, Danish, German, Polish, Japanese, Mexican, even English) are very good.
Apparently she hasn’t heard of these guys. They quit selling to any business Trump is involved in, including the Trump Tower in Xicago. http://www.5rabbitbrewery.com/
Leung is known in Boston for partnering with the wealthy parent of an FTM transgender to harass the advertisers of what was the top-rated radio show in Boston, who had the temerity to question whether it was appropriate for a six year old child to transition. The station ultimately banned controversial topics from the show, ratings tanked and the two hosts ended up fired.
The other relevant tie-in is that the Globe is owned by hedge fund billionaire John Henry (Yoko Ono’d by his young wife) and that his Boston Red Sox were among the targeted affiliates of the station.
And there it is.
Leung is just another Troublesome Asian, dutifully doing her duty by being more Jewy than the Jews, and being a proxy weapon in the Jewish war on whites.
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A tweet from Nassim Taleb mentioning Sailer.
I also love his rationalization for censoring people. I only learn stuff from people whom I already agree with - what could go wrong?
Oh. I was confused by the title of the article. The craft beer industry hasn’t been ruined by blacks. So, the craft beer industry does NOT have a diversity problem.
"Top Democratic Fundraising Staffer Allison Jaslow Out After Hispanic Caucus Reportedly Demanded Person Of Color Be Appointed"
"Allison Jaslow, who served as the executive director of the DCCC, announced her resignation at an all-staff meeting, according to Politico. The move reportedly comes after two Hispanic lawmakers, Democratic Texas Reps. Vicente González and Filemon Vela, called for Jaslow’s resignation Sunday, saying the committee needs to be run by a “person of color.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/29/dccc-staffer-cheri-bustos-resigns-person-of-color-report/
Maybe this lady will realize the Democratic Party is becoming an anti-white racket and stop voting Democrat?
Nah. That’s just crazy talk.
Or, it could be simply about getting blitzed faster. Craft beer generally has higher alcohol content that brand beer.
Beer consumption has been declining for years.
Per capita beer consumption was 85 liters in 1999 and has fallen to 72 liters in 2017. Millennials drink less beer because they are less white. American whites drink less beer today because they are getting old, we now have more whites aged 55- 75 than 20- 45. This is another reason beer sales will continue to fall.
Craft beers seem to be hard to find.
Recently I have been drinking a Belgian white ale from Aldi called Kinroo Blue that, according to the label, has hints of orange peel, citrus and cilantro.
Anyway, I think it is the best beer I have ever tasted, though it could be that I am getting senile, so beer that in mind. It is $6.49 for 6 bottles and is a bit lower in alcohol than many beers, which I don’t mind.
I do not know how many minorities buy it, but I think they would like it if they tried it.
You live in Britain, no? If our (USA) beer had been as good as British beer, craft beer wouldn't have taken off the way it has. Good craft beer + bad macro beer = perfect storm.
This is really about the Sam Adams company. Their founder toasted the Trump tax cuts last year and since then the Globe has been on a mission to wreck them. Now Leung engages in some clever well poisoning by suggesting that the entire industry may be filled with white nationalists. So that’s where the Globe is at — targeting successful local businesses for destruction. Interesting business model for the struggling newspaper industry.
https://learnlaunch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Shirley-Leung-500x500.jpg
Leung is just another Troublesome Asian, dutifully doing her duty by being more Jewy than the Jews, and being a proxy weapon in the Jewish war on whites.
Jews at least have reasons. Asians are incapable of coming up with reasons. It is Confucian: minorities good, whites bad.
Don’t you mean: No haven [Monahan] for white males!
colored peoplepeople of color criticized for not being sufficiently diverse in their taste in beer.Fixed it for you.
If they don’t like “white” stuff, it’s because you’re excluding them. Somehow.
If you like their stuff, you’re culturally appropriating.
Once you make the “white” stuff in such a way that they like it, it’s not “white” anymore and doesn’t count.
QED
I enjoy Craft Beer. So much so I haven’t bought a mainline domestic six pack (Budweiser, Miller, or Coors) in over a decade. I’ve been to craft breweries in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and one offs in other states my wife and I have visited.
Are there brewers and bar staff that meet the hipster stereotype? Yes. But unlike Nike, they are smart enough to know NOT to alienate their customer base. They want you to:
Come in
Drink beer
Leave with a growler, six pack, or bomber of their beer
Return with friends to drink more of their beer
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The worst that will happen is some beer nerd brewer will talk your ear off about their brews. Most places have TV screens up and have a more modern “working man’s tavern” vibe, without the dank.
Give one a try. If I’m wrong post back and tell me. The only one that was out and out lefty was the brewery we went to where the Roller Derby gals were having a personal Pride Night and the brewery hosted Drag Queen brunches. We haven’t been back since.
Bud and Coors aren’t bad, really. I don’t really get the beer snob thing.
To the contrary, I’d say a full 85%+ of craft beers I’ve tasted have ranged between awful and undrinkable to just unpleasant. The packaging is often loud and distracting.
I often like traditional European beers however.
De gustibus . . .
I used to drink Miller and Bud. I found something I like better, God forbid. But hey, more craft beer for me. Bottoms up 🍺
Make sure you take that “no alcohol” stuff with a grain of salt. They find ways to justify getting tipsy and just tell people they don’t drink to feel self-righteous.
But, boozing is fattening. Not because of the carbs and calories (although those do add up) but simply because alcohol stimulates the appetite and diminishes the brain signals that say, “Stop, you’ve had enough.”
IPA (India Pale Ale) is actually (in its original format – modern craft IPAs seem to overdo the hops) decent beer – brewed at higher strength to survive the passage out to India.
If you can get it in the US, I recommend Worthington White Shield, a “bottle-conditioned” (i.e it finishes fermenting in the bottle) beer. You can use the yeast left in the bottle after pouring for your own home brew.
https://protzonbeer.co.uk/beers/2013/07/worthington-s-white-shield
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
The craft beer guys I know are hardly metrosexuals. They may be SWPL in their social attitudes but for the most part they know how to build things with their hands, can swing a hammer, lift a keg and repair a machine. That makes them more masculine than 50% of the US male population at this point.
My preferred drink is whiskey, Winston Churchill used to have a glass for breakfast and he lived to be ninety.
A tweet from Nassim Taleb mentioning Sailer.
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1155944224795140096
This is like the Index Librorum Prohibitorum of the Catholic Church – you can use it as a guide as to who you SHOULD be reading. I’m disappointed though that he doesn’t have a nickname for Steve.
I also love his rationalization for censoring people. I only learn stuff from people whom I already agree with – what could go wrong?
"Top Democratic Fundraising Staffer Allison Jaslow Out After Hispanic Caucus Reportedly Demanded Person Of Color Be Appointed"
"Allison Jaslow, who served as the executive director of the DCCC, announced her resignation at an all-staff meeting, according to Politico. The move reportedly comes after two Hispanic lawmakers, Democratic Texas Reps. Vicente González and Filemon Vela, called for Jaslow’s resignation Sunday, saying the committee needs to be run by a “person of color.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/29/dccc-staffer-cheri-bustos-resigns-person-of-color-report/
I love it when NAMs implement self-centered ideology in ways that will cost them lots of money. Funds come from Whites. Wealthy Whites do not like to interact with NAMs. The only like to get social credit for assisting them with a significant degree of separation. A POC fundraising staffer in the top position will be radically less successful in attracting any money that requires their direct contact for it.
NAMs are apparently under the impression that they are successful without White support and that White people like them. Call it a pitfall of unearned success. Relearning the essential lesson is going to be difficult.
Can’t believe you said something I agree with. This article’s out of Boston, and guess who’s in the craft beer business – Boston hero Kevin Youkilis, though he’s doing it from San Jose. (I only drink German darks.)
How is this 'jaw-dropping'? Does Mizz Leung have no idea what the demographic breakdown of the adult population by race is?
Why are you trying to post here like your posts are meaningful and valued? Take your pseudo-intellectual pantomime over to World Star where you belong.
Ms Leung needs a good belt …
… of this fine craft beer
It’s a strange thing how essentially the same beverage can have completely different cultural connotations depending on how it is packaged and marketed. Back in the bad old macro-brew days, most beer had under 5% alcohol. One of the few exceptions was “malt liquor” such as Colt 45, which had more of a “kick” (although only modestly so – the original is only 5.6% ABV – it was really more of a marketing thing and the fact that you would drink a whole 40 ounces of it at one go) . Nowadays, a lot of craft brews have 7% or more ABV, but they are “sophisticated” drinks for hipsters, not just vehicles for getting minorities drunk fast.
Of course ABV alone doesn’t tell the full story – “malt liquor” didn’t really taste any different than an ordinary macrobrew because the extra alcohol was produced by adding tasteless (and cheap) sugar to the unfermented beer – this then fermented into higher alcohol without changing the taste.
Who's the minority?
It's more accurate to use the term "Browns" or "non-Whites" than "minorities."
Please. Stop using the word "minority."
They are anything but minorities. Blacks, Browns or Yellows alone outnumber Whites by a wide margin.
At the core, the progressive instinct to declare any industry or business that is not 'diverse' enough is just a way of saying more POCs need to be cut in on the action. If the business is big enough, they will publicly make the right noises about redoubling their efforts to embrace inclusion. It's like paying protection money to the mob.
Nice little business you got there, craft brewers. Be a shame if anything happened to it…
https://reductress.com/post/im-not-really-into-craft-beer-im-just-here-for-the-dick/
I enjoy Craft Beer. So much so I haven’t bought a mainline domestic six pack (Budweiser, Miller, or Coors) in over a decade. I’ve been to craft breweries in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and one offs in other states my wife and I have visited.
Are there brewers and bar staff that meet the hipster stereotype? Yes. But unlike Nike, they are smart enough to know NOT to alienate their customer base. They want you to:
Come in
Drink beer
Leave with a growler, six pack, or bomber of their beer
Return with friends to drink more of their beer
Lather, rinse, repeat.
The worst that will happen is some beer nerd brewer will talk your ear off about their brews. Most places have TV screens up and have a more modern “working man’s tavern” vibe, without the dank.
Give one a try. If I’m wrong post back and tell me. The only one that was out and out lefty was the brewery we went to where the Roller Derby gals were having a personal Pride Night and the brewery hosted Drag Queen brunches. We haven’t been back since.
Craft beer is running into the same problem non-Cuban cigars are.
There are thousands of choices that are competing for the same (yeah, mostly white male) market.
Of course cigars have an insane FDA and state and local smoking ordinances hunting them down like heat-seeking missiles.
Who knows, maybe the woke will try to bring back alcohol prohibition–build some secret rooms and get that cellar ready!
1. The increasing popularity of weed, which in many cases acts as a substitute for alcohol
2. The left’s continuing embrace of Islam; it’s much more likely that non-Muslim leftists will accommodate Muslims by not drinking than Muslims accommodating other leftists by engaging in haram behavior
3. The next great ethnic group poised to embrace leftism (and produce left-wing politicians) is South Asians, not known for their fondness of alcohol
4. The #metoo movement and society’s increasing intolerance of bad behavior in general; as I wrote somewhere else, the archetype of the hard-drinking, confrontational left-wing activist in the mold of Christopher Hitchens is gone and not coming back
5. Many constituencies that embrace alcohol and might have voted Democrat are dwindling in numbers, either by dying off (some mainline Protestants, Latino Catholics) or by not reproducing and then dying off (Reform Jews, the Carrie Bradshaw/nice white lady types who enjoy cocktail hour)
6. The inevitability of some single-payer health care system means that the state will start to pay more and more attention to how much we drink, just as insurance companies regularly screen for tobacco use
7. Our population is getting older, and older people can’t maintain the drinking habits young people can, further decreasing demand for alcohol
8. The number of people (in the US, anyway) who take at least one prescription psychiatric medication has exploded since the 1980s and shows no signs of slowing down. That’s a lot of folks taking stuff that doesn’t mix well with alcohol.
How is this 'jaw-dropping'? Does Mizz Leung have no idea what the demographic breakdown of the adult population by race is?
Another factor, Blacks drink much less than whites. While 65% of white Americans drink alcohol , just 45% of Blacks consume alcohol.
Instead of trying to get Blacks to drink more booze we should probably encourage whites to consume less alcohol.
No sympathy for her in this case. Traitors like her have been demonising Whites in general and White men in particular for decades in order to curry favor with anti-White bigots. She just got the treatment that she dished out against others.
I'm not sure about the demographics of Schitz buyers, but Colt 45 and Mickey's are very much a black thing.
Another thing about blacks getting into the craft beer biz is that for them, it's highly frowned upon by their black social betters. I'm sure everyone heard at some point or another about an abundance of liquor stores in the ghetto, but not as many in white neighborhoods. I just saw it back in the day from black comedians, but Billy Dee Williams caught a lot of crap for being the Colt 45 pitch man.
Or than again, who knows? Maybe blacks just don't want to pay an extra 3-4 bucks a six pack for craft beer, even if it is made by a brother.
The cost is one thing, although maybe the Democrat candidates could propose Beer Stamps or Beer Reparations in order to equalize the buying power of blacks and make up for the time when blacks used to be turned away from micro-breweries.
However, I think it is also a matter of taste. Most craft brews tend to be high in hops, which are bitter and not easy to guzzle down. Blacks prefer beers that are more “sessionable” (meaning that you can drink a lot quickly and easily). Native African beers lack hops entirely.
Also the atmosphere of most brew pubs is not to black’s liking.
It’s interesting at that the “forty” is considered low rent but the “growler” is upscale.
Not all that different from the Japanese and the Chinese being some of the biggest consumers of expensive French wines (the Japanese because they are tradition- and perfection-obsessed and the Chinese because they crave status consumption).
No, not really. Race traitors like bananas and Oreos who LARP as SWPLs don’t really count as Diverse. Her “shocking” stats for minority craft beer consumption were perfectly in line with population #’s for Asians. It’s really blacks that she is complaining about – Diversity is really code for blacks.
In the case of craft beer, it’s really more of a class based thing. Lower class people (blacks, jungle Asians, even lower class whites) have different tastes in food, beverages, music, clothes, etc. than SWPLs. SWPL taste is often perverse because status signalling is often inverted. You wear torn clothes to signal how rich you are.
The over-hopping fetish seemed to track the availability of hop extracts (sort of small bottles of oily stuff that, critically, keep for just about ever in the fridge).
http://beersmith.com/blog/2016/08/31/using-hop-extracts-for-beer-brewing/
Very easy to o.d. in a small batch of wort.
Also proper (un-squashed) hops are hideously expensive, bulky, and don’t keep at all well (against light, temp. and time).
So initially the in-your-face hopping might have been intended to impart an air of no-expense-spared quality to otherwise indifferent or incompetently-produced micro-brews (and probably still serves that purpose) until people caught on that it was just another cheapish industrial chemical.
already on it
https://www.forbes.com/sites/megykarydes/2017/01/27/the-rise-of-mead-the-craft-movements-next-big-thing/#211cd0a7a50f
I order, or serve, Coors beer whenever there’s a leftist nearby to annoy.
You caught her little sleight of hand. We jump from beer in general being bad because it was marketed to males 30 years ago to craft beer being double plus bad because WHITE males drink it.
Leung’s next expose – how diet soda is bad (“shockingly bad”) because only white women drink it.
The only time beer companies used girls in bikinis to sell beer was way back in 1991. And they were quickly attacked blocked from network TV. The leading beer company typically used horses or a cute dog to sell their beer.
Craft beer consumers are 23% non-white and 76% white. If this is too white , then what is the acceptable diversity required to be acceptable ? Certainly the attendance at NFL games is more than 80% white, even in a Baltimore and Philadelphia the patrons are whiter than a GOP convention. One could do this same exact article and replace craft beer consumers with many other products , such as vaping and heroin.
The only time beer companies used girls in bikinis to sell beer was way back in 1991.
I know nothing about the subject, but this strikes me as vanishingly unlikely.
http://teamkaroshi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/01LagerLovelies-670x435.jpg
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/the-story-of-tennent-s-lager-lovelies-1-4447190
late 70s
(being Scottish and somewhat direct and to the point, all these pics were right on the can)
https://www.cannyscot.com/Penny.htmThe racier stuff started off with Ann Johansen in the '60s, bikini shots a-gogo.
https://www.cannyscot.com/Ann.htm(terrible pictures for ants, can't find any good ones)
Craft beers seem to be hard to find.
You live in Britain, no? If our (USA) beer had been as good as British beer, craft beer wouldn’t have taken off the way it has. Good craft beer + bad macro beer = perfect storm.
It took a long time for beer culture to reappear in America, but it's a very good thing overall. In my little part of town I'm in walking distance to three or four craft breweries. I'm not sure, new ones open all the time. It's great. If nothing else, it takes some money away from the despicable corporate conglomerates.
America allowing InBev to buy Budweiser was a national crime.
I've been to a few craft beer bars in Italy over the last year or so. There they are just completely American in every way - and hugely popular, particular in Rome. Of course, it may just be the case that the Italians, unlike the British - or Belgians & Dutch - don't really have much of an indigenous brewing tradition of their own (yet) so they need to rely more on copying the American example.
Your point about the relationship between good macro=bad micro, bad macro=good micro is right on. In Canada, even in hipster America-imitating Toronto, the microbrew 'revolution' was slow to get started largely because as bad as Canadian macros - Molson, Labatt's, Moosehead - are, they aren't utterly awful like Bud and Miller.
British beer is not that great. There was a movement called the Campaign for Real Ale that prevented the discontinuation of traditional British beer in favor of a nasty bitter gassy pale beer called keg beer, with heavily advertised brands like Double Diamond in the 1960's and traditional British bitter and mild ales are not bad, when drawn from the barrel by a traditional pump in the cellar of a pub, but the kind of beer sold in supermarkets in bottles and cans is not that great.
In the US, there is a great variety of beers, for example I could go to the local liquor store, a thing that I never actually do, and buy beers made in Jamaica, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and so on, but they are all much of a muchness. You can also get beers from Belgium, Holland, Germany and Britain, but they are more expensive than beers made in the US.
At time of writing, I am imbibing a Wernesgruner pilsner lager beer from Aldi which is imported from Germany. It is a smooth taste and as good as anything of its type and I shall sleep well on it.
No doubt there are American-made beers that are just as good, and probably I am just a beer snob, but they don't sell them in Aldi, which is where I do most of our grocery shopping these days.
The manufacture of beer is just a factory chemical engineering process and a lot of the publicity is hype, just like fancy vodkas being sold in expensive bottles for ridiculous prices when vodka is basically a tasteless form of alcohol made for mixing. The word vodka in Russian actually means "little water" which just about sums it up.
You really need to Buy American. Beer is a food like bread. It should be fresh and locally produced. Not sent 5,000 miles in a shipping container.
colored peoplepeople of color criticized for not being sufficiently diverse in their taste in beer.Yes. There’s no accounting for taste.
Leung has ’cause and effect’ inverted. It’s not that craft brews have a diversity problem, it’s that, as you say,
colored peoplepeople of color are not diverse in their “taste” for craft brews.It’s almost as if–although race doesn’t exist–race matters when it comes to behavior/conduct preferences and proclivities. Apparently some things are more than skin deep…
Even the Democrats have been hit hard with this recently!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/democrats-just-purged-white-party-staffers-and-its-a-bigger-deal-than-anyone-wants-to-admit
They dunk the kool aide deeply.
Since race does not exist, any differences between the races must be due to racism (but only if minorities are the ones who are “underrepresented”) and must be stamped out. Not only do blacks have to attend historically white colleges (but whites don’t have to attend black ones – not sure how the math would work on this) and work in each occupation in at least the % that they represent of the general population, they also need to eat the same food, drink the same beer, etc. If they aren’t it must be some hidden bro conspiracy to make them feel unwelcome. It can’t just be a matter of differing tastes. If blacks are already drinking malt liquor at 4x the rate of white people, they are just going to have to up their overall beer consumption in order to catch up on the craft brew side.
https://beveragedynamics.com/2007/02/06/the-demographics-of-beer/
There can be no rest until every last haven of white racism is stamped out.
There can be no rest until every last white has been stamped out. FIFY
Why should non whites be interested in craft beers? Beer brewing is very much a traditionally European activity. A non white being into craft beer is like a white person who cultivated bonsai plans. And yes, plenty of white people do cultivate bonsai plants but one would expect that Japanese people are more likely to do it and that the best bonsai plant gardeners are Japanese. In the same way, many Asians like craft beers but why should they be expected to do more than dabble in it?
Asia of course has its own brewing traditions - sake is called "rice wine" but it's really a beer (fermented grain). Thru clever use of a multi-step fermentation process (first fungal and then yeast based) the Japanese were able to produce alcohol levels unobtainable by Western brewers who had only the malting process to convert starches to sugars.
Similar topic:
NPR bit about a new directory of people of color in podcast biz. “…which struggles with being predominantly white.”
https://www.wnyc.org/story/new-directory-aims-diversify-podcasting-industry
They won’t just give you the directory but force you to first sign a pledge you’ll pay a living wage, “reflect how you and your space are shaped by white supremacy…” etc.
Btw that last part is not in the written accompaniment to the radio bit I have linked to. They soften the message. I mean, way to broaden the market for your directory, POCs.
None of these people sound diverse. They sound like the regular valley girl SWPL/SJW uptalkers.
But you should hear the hootin’ and hollerin’ when they play some speech that was an alleged call to arms about the alleged whiteness of the biz.
There’s even a claim that there’ll be more interesting, funny and oddball stuff if you have more diverse voices. Although it all sounds as humorless and conformist as can be. Just divisive, not diverse.
So with podcasting, like with craft beer, whites can largely pioneer new biz models, that overthrow old conformities and legacy businesses, but must be forced to appeal to the entire audience, not just sub-sets of tastes. Thus limiting actual diversity.
There are literally no barriers to entry in podcasting or craft beer, if that’s your thing.
Wasn't podcasting predicted in Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Garrett Oliver, probably the nation’s foremost beer personality, is black.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Oliver
Even though I don’t care much for beer in general and I have nothing to do with the beer scene, I did happen to know that, since I have been reading his articles in food journals for the last two decades.
The article mentions him almost as an afterthought, but he has not yet been brought up here in the comments.
I know nothing about the subject, but this strikes me as vanishingly unlikely.
1991 was the year Tennants Lager Lovelies, the pinups on Scottish lager, vanished forever. If your southbound train had started its journey in Aberdeen it was common to see a table covered in empty Tennants cans (often stacked into pyramids) as oil-rig workers went home after their “two weeks on”.
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/the-story-of-tennent-s-lager-lovelies-1-4447190
Just curious what the “consumption” profile of the Boston Globe is. They are kind enough to let everyone know 40% of their readership has a net worth of over a million dollars. Somehow I suspect their readership profile does not reflect the country’s racial mix.
Yeah. White guys have been pretty much driven out of the trades in places like San Diego, both by low wages and ethnic networks. So working at a craft brewer is an alternative…though I suspect a lot less well paid.
Craft beer is a European traditional custom, and non-Europeans engaged in craft brewing would be a racist, cultural appropriation of European culture. They should be out wearing Kiminos or sombreros or wrapping burritos. Besides which, alcohol consumption is haram, and widespread craft beer consumption creates a hostile environment for Muslims:
https://medium.com/the-huevos/muslim-migrants-demand-germany-end-oktoberfest-ee411c4a631e
Letting non-Europeans brew or consume craft beer would simply perpetuate white supremacy and the hegemonic colonialist mindset which attempts to impose European norms (as supposedly “universal”) on non-Europeans.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/democrats-just-purged-white-party-staffers-and-its-a-bigger-deal-than-anyone-wants-to-admit
The only good news in a while. Diverse staffers are more likely to watch soap operas than get out illegal alien voters in PA.
They dunk the kool aide deeply.
'Gweilo' (or gwailouh or numerous other romanizations) is a term of middling obnoxiousness (its connotation is something like 'foreign ghost' or 'foreign devil'). It's still fairly widely used here in Hong Kong, not least by craft brewers, obviously.
In spite of its deep mediocrity as a barley-based beverage, Gweilo beer is now widespread here. It would be interesting to analyse the effect of its name on its popularity.
It was founded by two Brits. (Likewise, Buffalo Wild Wings was founded by two expat Buffalonians in Akron. BTW, I miss Joe.)
I’m waiting for a Baizuo ale, or hefeweizen. As watered-down as possible.
After a Gwei-lo, do you have to brush with
DarkieDarlie?I lived in Taiwan at the time, where the government had its own beer and cigarette monopoly. The beer, which was actually good, was simply “Taiwan Beer”. The cigarettes, not as good as the American or the even better Brit brands, were “Long Life Cigarettes”. The matches were KKK matches.
I didn’t think Indians could handle firewater – she must be faking it!
Yes, had he stuck gone with this instead, Rupert Murdoch wouldn’t have had to take out US citizenship.
Wasn’t podcasting predicted in Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Shirley Leung……
an Oriental
Much like Ted Lieu, Sarah Jeong, and many others…
and Twinkie tells me they’re cool LOL
What a funny guy
colored peoplepeople of color criticized for not being sufficiently diverse in their taste in beer.Well, I think Colt 45 Malt Liquor (with a higher alcohol content than normal beer) was bought SOLELY by the Urban Contemporary Crowd, to the point that simply mentioning “malt liquor” was taken to mean you were making a racial slur.
But I think Zima (also a “fortified” malt product) sold so poorly among ALL racial groups that mentioing the name “Zima” or a shot of an actor holding a bottle became a running joke. EVERYBODY thought Zima was a joke.
Waiting for the “Magic Thirst vs Tragic Thirst” angle to this one…
…Crown Royal, MD2020, Colt 45 were designed by the CIA to be addictive?
…Some of the ancestors in the Budweiser family owned slaves?
…There are Craft Brew Deserts in our inner cities. Black kids will never learn to navigate the microbrew landscape, handicapping their ability to socialize around non-Lean-drinking, suburban whites.
…Brew Pubs have a low incidence of violent crime, whereas Black Dance Clubs have a high incidence of crime. If we bussed patrons from the prior to the latter, it would improve the life outcomes of Black Dance Club patrons. This process would take 25 years, tops.
…Blacks like to drink and spend freely, so they should represent 13% of craft brew drinkers and around 90% of overall craft brew sales, like they do with sneakers. But they’re not. Hmmm….this seems like a disparate impact case.
…Microbrews should cross the aisle and put out releases more culturally in-tune with the Black Community, like “Green Jolly Rancher Menthol” during the month of February.
Since she’s Asian I must ask her: Does the dry cleaning business have a diversity problem? Because all I see are Asians working them. Same with the Cambodian donut shops here in West Texas. Why aren’t they hiring blacks or Latinos?
DarkieDarlie?I remember when it was still Darkie toothpaste.
I lived in Taiwan at the time, where the government had its own beer and cigarette monopoly. The beer, which was actually good, was simply “Taiwan Beer”. The cigarettes, not as good as the American or the even better Brit brands, were “Long Life Cigarettes”. The matches were KKK matches.
You live in Britain, no? If our (USA) beer had been as good as British beer, craft beer wouldn't have taken off the way it has. Good craft beer + bad macro beer = perfect storm.
America used to have thousands of breweries. Like in beer-drinking Europe, every town had a local brew. Prohibition destroyed almost all of them. When it was lifted, only a few brewers had survived, and they took over the market. The bane of the America worker, corporate consolidation — which should be largely illegal — further reduced the majors. I don’t even know who owns what anymore.
It took a long time for beer culture to reappear in America, but it’s a very good thing overall. In my little part of town I’m in walking distance to three or four craft breweries. I’m not sure, new ones open all the time. It’s great. If nothing else, it takes some money away from the despicable corporate conglomerates.
America allowing InBev to buy Budweiser was a national crime.
"Top Democratic Fundraising Staffer Allison Jaslow Out After Hispanic Caucus Reportedly Demanded Person Of Color Be Appointed"
"Allison Jaslow, who served as the executive director of the DCCC, announced her resignation at an all-staff meeting, according to Politico. The move reportedly comes after two Hispanic lawmakers, Democratic Texas Reps. Vicente González and Filemon Vela, called for Jaslow’s resignation Sunday, saying the committee needs to be run by a “person of color.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/29/dccc-staffer-cheri-bustos-resigns-person-of-color-report/
I am not sure what Seth Rich’s motivation was but look for more whites to sabotage the Democratic Party as well as explicitly left leaning businesses and organizations as they get passed over by less qualified POC. There are a lot of white liberals that are quite aware of the situation but stay on out of the need for work or seniority. It is one thing to queue up future employees but another to jump over people who are better qualified and are carrying the load for their new incompetent bosses. Eventually the entire Democratic party will be operating on the Peter Principle including the staff.
https://beveragedynamics.com/2007/02/06/the-demographics-of-beer/
There can be no rest until every last haven of white racism is stamped out.
“There can be no rest until every last haven of white racism is stamped out.”
There can be no rest until every last white has been stamped out. FIFY
The pharmaceutical industry isn’t diverse enough, either. Bitches with dicks aren’t selling enough crack.
To the contrary, I'd say a full 85%+ of craft beers I've tasted have ranged between awful and undrinkable to just unpleasant. The packaging is often loud and distracting.
I often like traditional European beers however.
De gustibus . . .
I’m hardly a beer snob, and I don’t get reverse snobbery either.
I used to drink Miller and Bud. I found something I like better, God forbid. But hey, more craft beer for me. Bottoms up 🍺
I know nothing about the subject, but this strikes me as vanishingly unlikely.
You would be correct in that assertion.
late 70s
(being Scottish and somewhat direct and to the point, all these pics were right on the can)
https://www.cannyscot.com/Penny.htm
The racier stuff started off with Ann Johansen in the ’60s, bikini shots a-gogo.
https://www.cannyscot.com/Ann.htm
(terrible pictures for ants, can’t find any good ones)
Agree. Bitter over-priced crap. I’d rather drink Bud.
Craft brewing as currently practiced in America is not some ancient unbroken white guy tradition. Beer brewing in the US, like a lot of food production, became industrialized starting in the late 19th century and by the 1970s almost all beer in America was produced by a handful of large scale brewers. Only in the last 40 years was there a revival of interest by SWPLs in artisanal production of things like beer, cheese, pickles, bread, etc. Asian, blacks, etc. have as much right to brew beer as anyone else because “cultural appropriation” is bullshit in any direction. It’s not in your blood, it’s a learned skill.
Asia of course has its own brewing traditions – sake is called “rice wine” but it’s really a beer (fermented grain). Thru clever use of a multi-step fermentation process (first fungal and then yeast based) the Japanese were able to produce alcohol levels unobtainable by Western brewers who had only the malting process to convert starches to sugars.
The multiple-parallel fermenting process is actually required by rice and not required by malt:If, of course, you believe Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake
Devilishly clever of the Japanese and Chinese to actually make the two-step process work.
I lived in Taiwan at the time, where the government had its own beer and cigarette monopoly. The beer, which was actually good, was simply “Taiwan Beer”. The cigarettes, not as good as the American or the even better Brit brands, were “Long Life Cigarettes”. The matches were KKK matches.
The name in Chinese, Hei Ren (Black Man) has never changed. Good thing Hei Ren can’t read Chinese or they would complain.
You live in Britain, no? If our (USA) beer had been as good as British beer, craft beer wouldn't have taken off the way it has. Good craft beer + bad macro beer = perfect storm.
In London craft beer specialty bars are now all over the place. Although they often copy their American counterparts – particularly in the wording of their menus – they are just as likely to have lots of local cask ales and stouts as they are to have hoppy American-style fare. So, at least in London, they are helping in tradition’s fight back against mass produced Eurolager swill.
I’ve been to a few craft beer bars in Italy over the last year or so. There they are just completely American in every way – and hugely popular, particular in Rome. Of course, it may just be the case that the Italians, unlike the British – or Belgians & Dutch – don’t really have much of an indigenous brewing tradition of their own (yet) so they need to rely more on copying the American example.
Your point about the relationship between good macro=bad micro, bad macro=good micro is right on. In Canada, even in hipster America-imitating Toronto, the microbrew ‘revolution’ was slow to get started largely because as bad as Canadian macros – Molson, Labatt’s, Moosehead – are, they aren’t utterly awful like Bud and Miller.
Asia of course has its own brewing traditions - sake is called "rice wine" but it's really a beer (fermented grain). Thru clever use of a multi-step fermentation process (first fungal and then yeast based) the Japanese were able to produce alcohol levels unobtainable by Western brewers who had only the malting process to convert starches to sugars.
Not so.
The multiple-parallel fermenting process is actually required by rice and not required by malt:
If, of course, you believe Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake
Devilishly clever of the Japanese and Chinese to actually make the two-step process work.
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
Hi ID,
The craft beer industry is the result of renegade home brewers who, until 1977, flouted Federal law to brew beers outside of the monolithic American Light lager style that dominated the industry. Prior to prohibition, America had a thriving and diverse “craft beer” industry. Most towns had small breweries that catered to the local community and regional styles varied greatly. Immigrants from the ale producing countries (England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc…) brought their styles here, while immigrants from the lager producing countries (Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, etc…) did the same. The result was the most varied beer culture in the world.
Prohibition destroyed that culture. Most of the distinct regional breweries died and what remained were mostly breweries founded by European immigrants. The American lager is a version of European Pilsner, though less flavorful and less aggressively hopped. This style became dominant. Even though prohibition was repealed, home brewing remained illegal until 1977, which marks the beginning of the “craft beer” revolution. As someone mentioned earlier, most of the early craft breweries were founded by home brewers who wished to bring the beers they loved to market. Still it was difficult, they had to fight regulations and barriers designed to favor big breweries and, of course, those big breweries did not welcome competition. The history of craft beer post 1977 is not one of fickle hipsters jumping on the latest fad, but one of passionate entrepreneurs fighting to bring what they love to others.
The original beer culture in America has been mostly restored and, in American fashion, these brewers are experimental, push style boundaries and are responsible for greatly expanding the incredible breadth of beer. Go to any “craft” brewery that is loved by locals and you will find a dedicated group of regulars who simply love beer. Few are hipsters and politics rarely matter. Sure, some hipsters are there but most will move on to the next fad, what remains are regular people who just crave a good pint.
Cheers,
Jeremy
I'm just not going to sync with the craft beer culture. Even the name "craft beer" is pretentious, designed to make the product sound more involved and luxurious than it actually is. (Incidentally, I suppose their is a meme going around where the microbrewers refer to the macrobrewers as "Kraft Beer"? If there isn't, there should be; that would be funny.) Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product.
If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price. It just isn't possible that the slew of microbreweries out there, who do not possess economies of scale, are actually fulfilling these requirements at the price points they offer.
The present mood seems to involve a decided push to come up with marginally different alternatives to mass market products---Chipotle instead of Taco Bell, Smashburger instead of McDonald's---and to market these as the hip new venues instead of the boring, bland, downscale plebian slop that had hitherto contented the world. I do not agree with these interpretations.
Is craft beer the return of the beer culture? I don't know, is Smashburger the return of the burger culture? I think there is a large psychological component here that the physical facts do not actually reflect.
Hi Hypno,
It already exists, it”s called a Helles Bock.
ABV: 6.3 to 7.5
IBU: 23-35
SRM: 6-11
It is a strong, pale lager, albeit a little hoppier than a malt liquor. Still, the high residual malt, and somewhat sweet finish, tempers that a lot. Packaged and marketed correctly it could be a hit.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Meantime in Colorado, known for both it’s craft brewing and legal marijuana. Sadly, it’s not satire.
Gentrifying Marijuana: The Construction of
Whiteness through Legal Marijuana
ABTRACT
https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3082&context=honr_theses
then then came for the NASCAR fans, and I did not speak out because I don't like race cars.
Then they came for the craft beer brewers... and there was no one left to speak for me.
You forgot the video gamers, lacrosse, and Taylor Swift fans. What else?
Someone upthread said this is all about breaking up gatherings of white people. That’s exactly what it is.
It’s paranoid projection. When minorities get together in their exclusive gatherings it’s often to plot mischief against the majority, and so they naturally assume the majority is secretly conspiring against them too.
They refuse to believe that white people just want to have fun.
I just avoid it all like a swamp.
You’re missing out on a lot of great food, coffee and beers if you avoid every establishment full of hipsters. Hipsters are a little annoying but their appearance isn’t as “out there” as it used to be 5-10 years ago…probably because most of them are in their 30s now. Anyway, it must suck to eat Buffalo Wild Wings, drink bud light and Dunkin Donuts.
Once upon a time the Globe was owned by the NYT, but it turns out that since 2013 it has been owned by John Henry, who also owns the Red Sox.
This also means that both she and Bill James work for John Henry already.
I’m glad you brought this up, because one of the things I’d like to see Steve cover (maybe he already has, not sure) is the possibility of alcohol prohibition making a comeback as a left-wing cause. I can think of a few reasons why:
1. The increasing popularity of weed, which in many cases acts as a substitute for alcohol
2. The left’s continuing embrace of Islam; it’s much more likely that non-Muslim leftists will accommodate Muslims by not drinking than Muslims accommodating other leftists by engaging in haram behavior
3. The next great ethnic group poised to embrace leftism (and produce left-wing politicians) is South Asians, not known for their fondness of alcohol
4. The #metoo movement and society’s increasing intolerance of bad behavior in general; as I wrote somewhere else, the archetype of the hard-drinking, confrontational left-wing activist in the mold of Christopher Hitchens is gone and not coming back
5. Many constituencies that embrace alcohol and might have voted Democrat are dwindling in numbers, either by dying off (some mainline Protestants, Latino Catholics) or by not reproducing and then dying off (Reform Jews, the Carrie Bradshaw/nice white lady types who enjoy cocktail hour)
6. The inevitability of some single-payer health care system means that the state will start to pay more and more attention to how much we drink, just as insurance companies regularly screen for tobacco use
7. Our population is getting older, and older people can’t maintain the drinking habits young people can, further decreasing demand for alcohol
8. The number of people (in the US, anyway) who take at least one prescription psychiatric medication has exploded since the 1980s and shows no signs of slowing down. That’s a lot of folks taking stuff that doesn’t mix well with alcohol.
You live in Britain, no? If our (USA) beer had been as good as British beer, craft beer wouldn't have taken off the way it has. Good craft beer + bad macro beer = perfect storm.
No I live in the US. Maybe I just don’t know a craft beer when I see one.
British beer is not that great. There was a movement called the Campaign for Real Ale that prevented the discontinuation of traditional British beer in favor of a nasty bitter gassy pale beer called keg beer, with heavily advertised brands like Double Diamond in the 1960’s and traditional British bitter and mild ales are not bad, when drawn from the barrel by a traditional pump in the cellar of a pub, but the kind of beer sold in supermarkets in bottles and cans is not that great.
In the US, there is a great variety of beers, for example I could go to the local liquor store, a thing that I never actually do, and buy beers made in Jamaica, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and so on, but they are all much of a muchness. You can also get beers from Belgium, Holland, Germany and Britain, but they are more expensive than beers made in the US.
At time of writing, I am imbibing a Wernesgruner pilsner lager beer from Aldi which is imported from Germany. It is a smooth taste and as good as anything of its type and I shall sleep well on it.
No doubt there are American-made beers that are just as good, and probably I am just a beer snob, but they don’t sell them in Aldi, which is where I do most of our grocery shopping these days.
The manufacture of beer is just a factory chemical engineering process and a lot of the publicity is hype, just like fancy vodkas being sold in expensive bottles for ridiculous prices when vodka is basically a tasteless form of alcohol made for mixing. The word vodka in Russian actually means “little water” which just about sums it up.
I beg to differ . Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter is what apochryphal Ben Franklin had in mind when he said “Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
Even though vodka is theoretically just pure tasteless alcohol, in fact it has a taste, so that anyone can distinguish between really cheap bottom shelf vodka and a better product (at least before it is mixed). That being said, some of the high dollar stuff is just hype.
The craft beer industry is the result of renegade home brewers who, until 1977, flouted Federal law to brew beers outside of the monolithic American Light lager style that dominated the industry. Prior to prohibition, America had a thriving and diverse "craft beer" industry. Most towns had small breweries that catered to the local community and regional styles varied greatly. Immigrants from the ale producing countries (England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc...) brought their styles here, while immigrants from the lager producing countries (Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, etc...) did the same. The result was the most varied beer culture in the world.
Prohibition destroyed that culture. Most of the distinct regional breweries died and what remained were mostly breweries founded by European immigrants. The American lager is a version of European Pilsner, though less flavorful and less aggressively hopped. This style became dominant. Even though prohibition was repealed, home brewing remained illegal until 1977, which marks the beginning of the "craft beer" revolution. As someone mentioned earlier, most of the early craft breweries were founded by home brewers who wished to bring the beers they loved to market. Still it was difficult, they had to fight regulations and barriers designed to favor big breweries and, of course, those big breweries did not welcome competition. The history of craft beer post 1977 is not one of fickle hipsters jumping on the latest fad, but one of passionate entrepreneurs fighting to bring what they love to others.
The original beer culture in America has been mostly restored and, in American fashion, these brewers are experimental, push style boundaries and are responsible for greatly expanding the incredible breadth of beer. Go to any "craft" brewery that is loved by locals and you will find a dedicated group of regulars who simply love beer. Few are hipsters and politics rarely matter. Sure, some hipsters are there but most will move on to the next fad, what remains are regular people who just crave a good pint.
Cheers,
Jeremy
What they love is alcohol.
If they just loved alcohol, they would stay at home and drink cheap vodka.
Jeremy
Put down the hatchet, Carrie.
He can’t read his tattoos?
http://teamkaroshi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/01LagerLovelies-670x435.jpg
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/the-story-of-tennent-s-lager-lovelies-1-4447190
Everyone here sure looks stupid romanticizing alcoholism the way you and they do.
Your personal bias against alcohol is just that, a personal bias. Those who appreciate wine, beer, spirits, cocktails, etc...are not necessarily "romanticizing alcoholism".
Jeremy
I've been to a few craft beer bars in Italy over the last year or so. There they are just completely American in every way - and hugely popular, particular in Rome. Of course, it may just be the case that the Italians, unlike the British - or Belgians & Dutch - don't really have much of an indigenous brewing tradition of their own (yet) so they need to rely more on copying the American example.
Your point about the relationship between good macro=bad micro, bad macro=good micro is right on. In Canada, even in hipster America-imitating Toronto, the microbrew 'revolution' was slow to get started largely because as bad as Canadian macros - Molson, Labatt's, Moosehead - are, they aren't utterly awful like Bud and Miller.
So it’s basically the same as with coffee, but in reverse. Some Italian Howard Schultz took a break during a convention in Milwaukee?
Hi Anon,
If they just loved alcohol, they would stay at home and drink cheap vodka.
Jeremy
Of course ABV alone doesn't tell the full story - "malt liquor" didn't really taste any different than an ordinary macrobrew because the extra alcohol was produced by adding tasteless (and cheap) sugar to the unfermented beer - this then fermented into higher alcohol without changing the taste.
Whites are about to tip under 50% of the USA population. Whites comprise less than 7% of world population.
Who’s the minority?
It’s more accurate to use the term “Browns” or “non-Whites” than “minorities.”
Please. Stop using the word “minority.”
They are anything but minorities. Blacks, Browns or Yellows alone outnumber Whites by a wide margin.
It is beside the point that non-Whites are not into craft beer or national parks.
The point is that there must NOT be any White spaces.
We will hunt the last White man down and force Diversity down his throat. Whether the Diversity likes it or not.
It's Who We Are.
“We will hunt the last White man down and force Diversity down his throat. ”
You made antecedent [White man] and pronoun [his] agree. By doing so, you triggered SJW’s everywhere. How do you know this particular “man” prefers a masculine pronoun, or any singular one at that? Could be he/she/it identifies as one of [at least!] 56 other “genders,” or no gender at all. How insensitive, uncaring, and intolerant of you!
Yep, a beer style born of necessity, not demand. Had they had refrigerated shipping back then, the awful stuff would never have been tolerated.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/democrats-just-purged-white-party-staffers-and-its-a-bigger-deal-than-anyone-wants-to-admit
That’s the political sentence of the year.
British beer is not that great. There was a movement called the Campaign for Real Ale that prevented the discontinuation of traditional British beer in favor of a nasty bitter gassy pale beer called keg beer, with heavily advertised brands like Double Diamond in the 1960's and traditional British bitter and mild ales are not bad, when drawn from the barrel by a traditional pump in the cellar of a pub, but the kind of beer sold in supermarkets in bottles and cans is not that great.
In the US, there is a great variety of beers, for example I could go to the local liquor store, a thing that I never actually do, and buy beers made in Jamaica, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and so on, but they are all much of a muchness. You can also get beers from Belgium, Holland, Germany and Britain, but they are more expensive than beers made in the US.
At time of writing, I am imbibing a Wernesgruner pilsner lager beer from Aldi which is imported from Germany. It is a smooth taste and as good as anything of its type and I shall sleep well on it.
No doubt there are American-made beers that are just as good, and probably I am just a beer snob, but they don't sell them in Aldi, which is where I do most of our grocery shopping these days.
The manufacture of beer is just a factory chemical engineering process and a lot of the publicity is hype, just like fancy vodkas being sold in expensive bottles for ridiculous prices when vodka is basically a tasteless form of alcohol made for mixing. The word vodka in Russian actually means "little water" which just about sums it up.
British beer is not that great.
I beg to differ . Samuel Smith’s Taddy Porter is what apochryphal Ben Franklin had in mind when he said “Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
When Fancy Asians act like SWPLs, they are not LARPing. It’s who they are. Fancy Asia had a luxury civilization long before Northern Europeans acquired one by looting Rome.
I don’t disagree, but sometimes SWPS stuff is good stuff. I use the roof racks on my vehicles sometimes.
But, boozing is fattening. Not because of the carbs and calories (although those do add up) but simply because alcohol stimulates the appetite and diminishes the brain signals that say, "Stop, you've had enough."
I never wrote “no alcohol.” The SWPLs I know seem to drink much more hard liquor these days than beer or wine. Fewer calories and get drunk faster. But perhaps that’s an age cohort thing.
'Gweilo' (or gwailouh or numerous other romanizations) is a term of middling obnoxiousness (its connotation is something like 'foreign ghost' or 'foreign devil'). It's still fairly widely used here in Hong Kong, not least by craft brewers, obviously.
In spite of its deep mediocrity as a barley-based beverage, Gweilo beer is now widespread here. It would be interesting to analyse the effect of its name on its popularity.
You ought to leave that place and try other parts of Asia where whites are received more warmly.
The craft beer industry is the result of renegade home brewers who, until 1977, flouted Federal law to brew beers outside of the monolithic American Light lager style that dominated the industry. Prior to prohibition, America had a thriving and diverse "craft beer" industry. Most towns had small breweries that catered to the local community and regional styles varied greatly. Immigrants from the ale producing countries (England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc...) brought their styles here, while immigrants from the lager producing countries (Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, etc...) did the same. The result was the most varied beer culture in the world.
Prohibition destroyed that culture. Most of the distinct regional breweries died and what remained were mostly breweries founded by European immigrants. The American lager is a version of European Pilsner, though less flavorful and less aggressively hopped. This style became dominant. Even though prohibition was repealed, home brewing remained illegal until 1977, which marks the beginning of the "craft beer" revolution. As someone mentioned earlier, most of the early craft breweries were founded by home brewers who wished to bring the beers they loved to market. Still it was difficult, they had to fight regulations and barriers designed to favor big breweries and, of course, those big breweries did not welcome competition. The history of craft beer post 1977 is not one of fickle hipsters jumping on the latest fad, but one of passionate entrepreneurs fighting to bring what they love to others.
The original beer culture in America has been mostly restored and, in American fashion, these brewers are experimental, push style boundaries and are responsible for greatly expanding the incredible breadth of beer. Go to any "craft" brewery that is loved by locals and you will find a dedicated group of regulars who simply love beer. Few are hipsters and politics rarely matter. Sure, some hipsters are there but most will move on to the next fad, what remains are regular people who just crave a good pint.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Thank you for your kind attempt to educate me. I was aware of the whole Prohibition-legality-corporate conglomerization history, but the gesture is certainly appreciated nonetheless.
I’m just not going to sync with the craft beer culture. Even the name “craft beer” is pretentious, designed to make the product sound more involved and luxurious than it actually is. (Incidentally, I suppose their is a meme going around where the microbrewers refer to the macrobrewers as “Kraft Beer”? If there isn’t, there should be; that would be funny.) Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product.
If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price. It just isn’t possible that the slew of microbreweries out there, who do not possess economies of scale, are actually fulfilling these requirements at the price points they offer.
The present mood seems to involve a decided push to come up with marginally different alternatives to mass market products—Chipotle instead of Taco Bell, Smashburger instead of McDonald’s—and to market these as the hip new venues instead of the boring, bland, downscale plebian slop that had hitherto contented the world. I do not agree with these interpretations.
Is craft beer the return of the beer culture? I don’t know, is Smashburger the return of the burger culture? I think there is a large psychological component here that the physical facts do not actually reflect.
Jeremy
However, some of the craft brewers (e.g. Sam Adams) have grown to the point where they are in effect macrobrewers themselves. It doesn't appear that there are really that many economies of scale in brewing such that small producers can stay in business and remain profitable nowadays at the price point that the market will support for craft brews. Otherwise, Sam Adams (for example) could underprice (or outmarket) the other craft brewers and drive them out of business.
In the past, when the market was less discerning and more driven by marketing than taste, yes the macrobrewers were able to squeeze out not only craft producers but large regional brewers - at the height of consolidation there were only a few brewing companies left in America. But the market has changed in that there are consumers who are willing to pay a premium price for a premium product. This is not to say that some craft brewers fall short. But the market has a way of getting rid of those.
When American breweries make a beer that’s as good as Pilsner Urquell, Asahi, or Negra Modelo, I will.
Shirley Leung is, of course, a bigoted, anti-male heterophobe — and a cheap seeker of attention.
Here is one craft beer that is catering to a defined target audience of middle America. Big South Beer celebrates the working man capitalist, silent majority, blue collar, rural-living, no apologies hunter, farmer, fisherman, welder, etc. New company that is not re-inventing the wheel; just getting back to basics when it comes to simply drinking beer with your buddies. Keep it simple. Keep it REAL….
http://www.bigsouthbeer.com
I'm just not going to sync with the craft beer culture. Even the name "craft beer" is pretentious, designed to make the product sound more involved and luxurious than it actually is. (Incidentally, I suppose their is a meme going around where the microbrewers refer to the macrobrewers as "Kraft Beer"? If there isn't, there should be; that would be funny.) Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product.
If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price. It just isn't possible that the slew of microbreweries out there, who do not possess economies of scale, are actually fulfilling these requirements at the price points they offer.
The present mood seems to involve a decided push to come up with marginally different alternatives to mass market products---Chipotle instead of Taco Bell, Smashburger instead of McDonald's---and to market these as the hip new venues instead of the boring, bland, downscale plebian slop that had hitherto contented the world. I do not agree with these interpretations.
Is craft beer the return of the beer culture? I don't know, is Smashburger the return of the burger culture? I think there is a large psychological component here that the physical facts do not actually reflect.
Hi ID,
Thanks for the response, I appreciate it. I agree with some of what you write. The term “craft beer” is pretentious. In the early days, “we” didn’t use that term; micro brewery, micro brew and brew pub were common. The term “craft beer” was coined by writers describing the emerging industry and became commonplace some 20 years after the beginning.
“Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product”.
This is mostly true (thus the term micro brewery), however small, local breweries tend to eschew adjuncts that create more fermentable sugars but add little or no flavor. Many also also use finings and time to create a clear product instead of filtration. Also, these beers are not pasteurized. Still, I avoid claims about superiority as the term is meaningless without qualification. Budweiser is a very well made beer and arguably the pinnacle of it’s style. It is also consistent at many breweries around the world, no small feat. Can one get a “better” American Light Lager at a brew pub or micro brewery than Budweiser? No, few even try. What one does find is many different beers, encompassing a large variety of styles, which some people prefer to the pale, lightly hopped, clean American Light Lagers that predominate.
“If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price”.
Most of these beers do command a higher price, often use higher quality (or at least more expensive) and larger amounts, of the base ingredients and employ conditioning techniques not used by big breweries. Still, beer is cheap to make and even the strongest, hoppiest and time intensive beers could be sold, at a profit, for significantly less than the market will bear.
“Is craft beer the return of the beer culture?”
In a way, a culture that is decidedly self conscious is not really a culture, but an artificial creation. Prior to prohibition, “beer culture” just was. It was not outside of the broader culture, defined by gatekeepers and considered superior by many of those in it. In that sense, “beer culture” has not returned. Still, few at my preferred local pub consider such things. They just enjoy a pint and conversation with friends. In that sense, it has.
Kind Regards,
Jeremy
The multiple-parallel fermenting process is actually required by rice and not required by malt:If, of course, you believe Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake
Devilishly clever of the Japanese and Chinese to actually make the two-step process work.
Very typical Asian thing to make a virtue out of a necessity. Just in time manufacturing, which is now considered state of the art worldwide, was developed by Japanese manufacturers because they didn’t have the resources (neither the capital nor the floor space) to keep large inventories on hand.
British beer is not that great. There was a movement called the Campaign for Real Ale that prevented the discontinuation of traditional British beer in favor of a nasty bitter gassy pale beer called keg beer, with heavily advertised brands like Double Diamond in the 1960's and traditional British bitter and mild ales are not bad, when drawn from the barrel by a traditional pump in the cellar of a pub, but the kind of beer sold in supermarkets in bottles and cans is not that great.
In the US, there is a great variety of beers, for example I could go to the local liquor store, a thing that I never actually do, and buy beers made in Jamaica, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and so on, but they are all much of a muchness. You can also get beers from Belgium, Holland, Germany and Britain, but they are more expensive than beers made in the US.
At time of writing, I am imbibing a Wernesgruner pilsner lager beer from Aldi which is imported from Germany. It is a smooth taste and as good as anything of its type and I shall sleep well on it.
No doubt there are American-made beers that are just as good, and probably I am just a beer snob, but they don't sell them in Aldi, which is where I do most of our grocery shopping these days.
The manufacture of beer is just a factory chemical engineering process and a lot of the publicity is hype, just like fancy vodkas being sold in expensive bottles for ridiculous prices when vodka is basically a tasteless form of alcohol made for mixing. The word vodka in Russian actually means "little water" which just about sums it up.
Making beer is not a chemical process but rather a biochemical process. It is also a food in that taste is important – you are not just fermenting alcohol without concern for the taste of what remains. As such you have to be concerned with sanitation, the strains of the yeast, the taste of the ingredients, etc. – there is no hiding any mistakes. Sure it’s not magic but it’s not as easy as it looks either.
Even though vodka is theoretically just pure tasteless alcohol, in fact it has a taste, so that anyone can distinguish between really cheap bottom shelf vodka and a better product (at least before it is mixed). That being said, some of the high dollar stuff is just hype.
If you love cooking and food, are you romanticizing obesity? Food and beverages (alcoholic and non) are important parts of human culture and one of the things that make life worth living.
I'm just not going to sync with the craft beer culture. Even the name "craft beer" is pretentious, designed to make the product sound more involved and luxurious than it actually is. (Incidentally, I suppose their is a meme going around where the microbrewers refer to the macrobrewers as "Kraft Beer"? If there isn't, there should be; that would be funny.) Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product.
If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price. It just isn't possible that the slew of microbreweries out there, who do not possess economies of scale, are actually fulfilling these requirements at the price points they offer.
The present mood seems to involve a decided push to come up with marginally different alternatives to mass market products---Chipotle instead of Taco Bell, Smashburger instead of McDonald's---and to market these as the hip new venues instead of the boring, bland, downscale plebian slop that had hitherto contented the world. I do not agree with these interpretations.
Is craft beer the return of the beer culture? I don't know, is Smashburger the return of the burger culture? I think there is a large psychological component here that the physical facts do not actually reflect.
Craft beer does command a higher price. The macrobrewers COULD produce a better product for less than the craft brewers but for the most part they don’t. They have different goals – a macrobrewer is trying to produce a product that is appealing to the largest # of people and sell it for the lowest possible price to gain market share (and to produce it for as little as possible). This leads to the taking of various shortcuts – the use of cheap adjunct grains such as corn and rice, the use of minimal hops and that in pelletized form, the addition of various additives, etc. Pasteurized process American cheese food sells for less than cave aged Roquefort. One is not a pale imitation of the other – the goals of the manufacturers are completely different even though they are both “cheese”.
However, some of the craft brewers (e.g. Sam Adams) have grown to the point where they are in effect macrobrewers themselves. It doesn’t appear that there are really that many economies of scale in brewing such that small producers can stay in business and remain profitable nowadays at the price point that the market will support for craft brews. Otherwise, Sam Adams (for example) could underprice (or outmarket) the other craft brewers and drive them out of business.
In the past, when the market was less discerning and more driven by marketing than taste, yes the macrobrewers were able to squeeze out not only craft producers but large regional brewers – at the height of consolidation there were only a few brewing companies left in America. But the market has changed in that there are consumers who are willing to pay a premium price for a premium product. This is not to say that some craft brewers fall short. But the market has a way of getting rid of those.
I refer you the various beer review sites on the internet. You will see that in their respective styles, there are higher rated American brews in almost all cases. This would not have been true 30 years ago but things have changed. But there’s no accounting for taste – YMMV.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Oliver
Even though I don't care much for beer in general and I have nothing to do with the beer scene, I did happen to know that, since I have been reading his articles in food journals for the last two decades.
The article mentions him almost as an afterthought, but he has not yet been brought up here in the comments.
True. He says he has only had one other black ever even apply for a brewing job. I met him around 15 years ago, as he did a tasting pairing beer and food.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hartford-distributors-shooting-angry-employee-allegedly-kills-multiple-people/
Hi Bucky,
Those obsessed with racism seem to be the only significant white supremacists around today. Sure, there are a few cranks lurking around but they lack any power, while those who insist that everything is about race have a lot of power and seem to be motivated by resentment and rage or irrational, abstract guilt. Funny how every difference in taste, desires or inclinations among “minorities” from SWPL is seen as proof of racism. Could this reveal a sublimated belief that SWPL is the measure of what is good? Likewise, if one believes that all disparate outcomes are due to white privilege and racism, is this not a tacit admission of “white superiority”? Of course, it never goes the other way. Those whites who appreciate and admire the culture of others are reviled as cultural appropriators. The idea that Emmett Miller or Hank Williams genuinely admired the creativity and freedom of black culture, and honored it in their way, is incomprehensible to them.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Hi Anon156,
Your personal bias against alcohol is just that, a personal bias. Those who appreciate wine, beer, spirits, cocktails, etc…are not necessarily “romanticizing alcoholism”.
Jeremy
In my broad and extended professional and social interactions with Basketball Americans, they rarely speak about IBUs, hop varieties, lagers vs. ales, etc, when discussing beer. Their formula for choosing a malted beverage appears to be: largest bottle + highest alcohol content + lowest possible price.
I admit to preferring Negro Modelo in the past when faced with the choices at most Mexican restaurants, but at some point I made a rule never to drink a beverage made in a country where I can’t drink the water out of the tap.
I'm just not going to sync with the craft beer culture. Even the name "craft beer" is pretentious, designed to make the product sound more involved and luxurious than it actually is. (Incidentally, I suppose their is a meme going around where the microbrewers refer to the macrobrewers as "Kraft Beer"? If there isn't, there should be; that would be funny.) Craft beer is really just any beer brewed in a small operation, and there is no reason to think that it is necessarily superior to a better known product.
If the laws of economics are any guide, then a truly premium beer would consist of higher quality ingredients and/or rare expertise in the brewing process and the use of uncommon equipment or techniques, and it would command a higher price. It just isn't possible that the slew of microbreweries out there, who do not possess economies of scale, are actually fulfilling these requirements at the price points they offer.
The present mood seems to involve a decided push to come up with marginally different alternatives to mass market products---Chipotle instead of Taco Bell, Smashburger instead of McDonald's---and to market these as the hip new venues instead of the boring, bland, downscale plebian slop that had hitherto contented the world. I do not agree with these interpretations.
Is craft beer the return of the beer culture? I don't know, is Smashburger the return of the burger culture? I think there is a large psychological component here that the physical facts do not actually reflect.
Maybe you should taste some craft beers and compare them to Miller and Bud. Coors advertises itself as special because of Colorado water or something. I’m not much of a beer drinker but I’ve noticed that Coors does taste noticeably better than all the rest of the big brands.
Thomas Jefferson drank malt liquor. Somebody should write a long sobbing caterwauling article about how dreadful that black men drink the same swill the evil White rapist of pretty black Sally did. Te Nehi Cola can write it for the Atlantic
Has Jared Taylor and the Amren crew noticed how all these model minority Asian women hate Whites as much as Elijah Cummings and Sheila Jackson Lee do?
Are Elijah Cummings and Sheila Jackson Lee married to whites?
It's easy to cite a few isolated examples and make unsupported assertions, but it would be both wrong and unintelligent to do so. I can easily cite a few white men who are monstrously evil serial killers. That doesn't mean all or most whites are.
When you look at intermarriage, work, and residential pattern data, it just doesn't hold that "model minority Asians... hate whites." That is not to say that there is not a disturbing pattern of young Asians in America being indoctrinated in all the SJW ideology - clearly there is. The moral lesson is that such indoctrination should be combated, instead of making unsupported assertions about a large group of (very disparate) peoples.
White-hatred is largely practiced by 1) some blacks (though I don't think it's a majority even among blacks, but one who do tend to be virulent and/or violent about it) and 2) a subset of virtue-signaling whites.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/megykarydes/2017/01/27/the-rise-of-mead-the-craft-movements-next-big-thing/#211cd0a7a50f
Oh, come on. The mead revival has been promised for decades now. When will it start for real?
That wouldn’t have been Omar Thornton, would it?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hartford-distributors-shooting-angry-employee-allegedly-kills-multiple-people/
What? And pay taxes?
Touche!
Yes, all five of them.
Are Elijah Cummings and Sheila Jackson Lee married to whites?
It’s easy to cite a few isolated examples and make unsupported assertions, but it would be both wrong and unintelligent to do so. I can easily cite a few white men who are monstrously evil serial killers. That doesn’t mean all or most whites are.
When you look at intermarriage, work, and residential pattern data, it just doesn’t hold that “model minority Asians… hate whites.” That is not to say that there is not a disturbing pattern of young Asians in America being indoctrinated in all the SJW ideology – clearly there is. The moral lesson is that such indoctrination should be combated, instead of making unsupported assertions about a large group of (very disparate) peoples.
White-hatred is largely practiced by 1) some blacks (though I don’t think it’s a majority even among blacks, but one who do tend to be virulent and/or violent about it) and 2) a subset of virtue-signaling whites.
Billy Dee Williams pushed malt liquor to other black people by posing with a black woman in ads, but he actually married a Japanese woman and had a half-Japanese daughter (who I think married a white guy).
https://learnlaunch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Shirley-Leung-500x500.jpg
Leung is just another Troublesome Asian, dutifully doing her duty by being more Jewy than the Jews, and being a proxy weapon in the Jewish war on whites.
I wonder if they’ve lamented the lack of diversity in the malt liquor industry?
But just pointing that out will trigger their cries of “That’s racist!”
This is what happens when we, as a society, have stopped telling stupid people “Shut the fuck up, you idiot, and sit back down.” Now they think their stupid opinions are actually valid.
So, that’s three people, right?
The NYT paid, IIRC, over a billion dollars for the Boston Globe, and later sold it for < $100 million. It's a good thing the NYT isn't in charge of our economy.