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It’s almost as if The Mob doesn’t hate Confederates, so much as they hate whites (as the “Kill Whitey!!” graffiti in green paint on the Francis Scott Key plinth suggests).

Even I didn’t see the cancelation of Ulysses S. Grant coming. As I wrote in 2017 in Taki’s Magazine:

Carved Upon the Landscape
Steve Sailer

August 16, 2017

Why the ever-increasing hatred for America’s past?

You might think that, on the whole, American history is, relative to world history, fairly impressive and heartening.

But it’s precisely American history’s virtues, more than anything else, that enrage so many people these days against the great men of the American past. While the Founding Fathers might be nominally condemned for their misdeeds, they are largely resented for their accomplishments.

Human history suggests that people are naturally prejudiced in favor of their own ancestors, because the accomplishments of their forefathers reflect well upon them.

America is increasingly dominated by people with shallow roots in this country. So it’s hardly surprising that they find it insulting to reflect upon what Americans not related to them once accomplished. Instead, it’s heartening to denounce the Founding Fathers as bad men whose descendants deserve their displacement.

Punching down is safer and more fun than punching up. Hence the less dominant become the founding stock, the more their lineage is abused.

At the moment, we are told, the ongoing damnation of memory only involves secessionists like Robert E. Lee. Yet, it has already gone beyond that.

For example, Andrew Jackson, the Democrat who represents in American history the abolition of property requirements in voting, is being replaced on the twenty-dollar bill by Harriet Tubman.

Originally, Obama treasury secretary Jack Lew had naively announced that Tubman would replace Alexander Hamilton, that proto-Republican plutocratic autocrat, on the ten-spot.

But Lew, who had devoted his life to making money, didn’t understand how things work nowadays. A groundswell of Current Year outrage pointed out that Hamilton was, as everybody knows (at least since Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Broadway musical), an immigrant Jewish Person of Color. (Granted, from his portrait on the ten-dollar bill, Hamilton might appear to have been the most Scottish person who ever lived, but whoever heard of a Scot who was good with money?)

Anyway, as we all know, Jackson was a Confederate secessionist.

Granted, if you recall your high school history, you’ll remember that Jackson faced down John C. Calhoun’s South Carolinian push toward secession in 1832 with his blunt toast at Thomas Jefferson’s birthday dinner: “The federal union: It must be preserved!”

But who can remember any of that trivia? The point is that the Jackson was a Southern redneck while Hamilton was a New Yorker, so Jackson had to go.

After Jackson, who is next to have his memorials toppled Taliban-style?

It could be any of the four Mount Rushmore presidents: George Washington (slave owner), Teddy Roosevelt (immigration assimilationist), or Abraham Lincoln (not sufficiently anti-Southern at the end of his life: “with malice toward none” sounds racist today when malice is demanded).

Their real offense is their fame: Their visages are carved upon the landscape at Mount Rushmore. That can be irritating to proud people whose ancestors didn’t contribute as much to America.

But my guess is that the most likely next victim will be Thomas Jefferson. Sure, he wasn’t a redneck and he founded the modern Democratic Party, but he was a Southerner so that makes him practically Trump. He was a slave owner and there’s the whole rapist-of-a-black-body thing.

But worst of all, Jefferson makes people in power today feel inadequate.

 
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  1. I think it’s time to just cancel anyone who’s ever worn cotton anytime after 1619.

    Even today anyone who wears or otherwise uses cotton only does so to mock black suffering.

    Also anyone who’s eaten peanut butter since that’s culturally appropriated.

  2. Ben Franklin owned slaves too. Can he be spared?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Daniel H

    One, I believe.

  3. What’s the over/under for first attempt to pull down the statue of Thomas Jefferson in the Jefferson memorial? Or the first graffiti on the Washington monument calling for DC to be renamed?

    August 1 seems about right.

    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    , @El Dato
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.
     
    At this point, Trump is like a gimp providing comic relief from the back of a Mad Max killdozer coming to town to deliver to the cheering peons what they really deserve.

    Trump will probably win the elections (if they are held), then be ousted in a color operation, possibly with direct military support. Biden is all but laying it out.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Svevlad
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    they got him by the balls

    He didn't purge the scum on time, and this happens

    Now the only way is to accelerate, then pull an Assad

  4. I wonder if media outlets like the New York Times or LA Times even report on this ongoing nationwide vandalism. I recently cancelled my subscriptions to both (part of an effort to disassociate from all leftist-captured institutions where possible) and I can’t stand even looking at their home pages now. They probably approve of it.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Mike_from_SGV

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of "peaceful protesters seek racial justice." No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don't even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven't heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a "second wave" of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @res, @Stan, @Mr. Anon

  5. The idea was that by going along with things like desegregation, affirmative action and “fair housing”, it would bring about harmony and calm down the more radical left.

    How’s that working out for ya?

    The old White establishment were a bunch of weak cucks. And that emboldened the left.

  6. @NJ Transit Commuter
    What’s the over/under for first attempt to pull down the statue of Thomas Jefferson in the Jefferson memorial? Or the first graffiti on the Washington monument calling for DC to be renamed?

    August 1 seems about right.

    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @El Dato, @Svevlad

    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Because Trump has never been committed to anything but his own egomania.

    , @Miro23
    @Mike_from_SGV


    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.
     
    The SJW's and MSM want a police/military crack down so that they can broadcast their victimhood.

    Trump isn't obliging - even if the cost is more mob rule and being perceived as weak.

    It's actually a do-nothing competition between the President, state and local authorities. All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression - the return of the Adolf Hitler.

    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos. They actually celebrate the mob rooting out Anglos and destroying their culture and symbols.

    Replies: @bomag, @Just another serf

    , @yanouz
    @Mike_from_SGV

    He may sense how much this destruction is pissing people off. Even with semi-competent like Trump on the ticket, people who are rightly fearful will go with their gut and vote for the Republican.

    Sideshow Bob put it best, though with the expected Simpsons slant: "You need me, Springfield. Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this, to save you from yourselves. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a city to run."

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Mike_from_SGV


    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.
     
    Because Trump is a narcissist and a moron. Bolton is guilty of criticizing Donald Trump, a much greater crime in Trump's eyes than attacking our civilization and destroying our history.
    , @Anon
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Trump is simply outraged that a guy he hired betrayed him. Trump did Bolton a big favor by giving Bolton a second chance at a government job after being out of office, but Bolton still became a creepy turncoat. Bolton would not obey orders, and didn't even have his book vetted for state secrets. The guy's just a snotty, juvenile jerk.

    Trump is getting very tired of having all these officials he either hired or let stay in their jobs be disloyal to their boss. They're not even keeping their mouths shut and letting things be. They're actively plotting against him.

    Trump thought it would a good idea to hire from the talent pool of people who had been in high-level government jobs for many years because they had experience and knew their jobs. He didn't realize you can't trust government employees who are Baby Boomers. Government employees who belonged to the Greatest Generation really were dedicated to public service. Many of them were ex-military from World War II, and they had acquired some sense of honor and integrity from their military service. Government employees hired from the draft-dodging Baby Boomers are a childish, petulant, spiteful, grudge-holding set of weasels. They all act like court eunuchs in a harem, scheming away because that's what small-minded, petty people do. They act like they're emasculated and have no sense of honor.

    Trump needs to hire a lot more from the military, and not the self-serving Obama-promoted military, either. Next term, Trump needs to make a total clean sweep of all the political Obama-era hires if he wants a smoother term of office. They need to be gone from both the military and the government.

    States do not survive dishonorable servants. They must be honorable, otherwise you get a third-world government. Your employees must have a track record of honorable behavior before they're hired if you want to be able to trust them.

  7. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    June 20, 2020 at 6:47 am GMT • 100 Words   

    The tearing down of statues, starting with Lee’s, angers me more than the looting, the arson, and the murders.
    It’s a threat to me that I had better keep my mouth shut – don’t speak, don’t think.
    Incredible that mobs can do this all over the country with the support of the government. It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    • Agree: Miro23, PSR, Kyle
    • Replies: @Charon
    @anon

    Why should they ever stop with statues and monuments? Think of all the fine old pre-war (WW2) buildings across our once-fair land. Weren't they built by racists? Some with actual slave labor, if you go back far enough. Even north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

    Don't even get me started on the California missions. Fact is, it all has to go. Raze everything to the ground and we can all live in Autonomous Zones. We could call them Bantustans.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @anon


    It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
     
    It's also the opening stages of ethnic cleansing.

    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.
     
    I'm starting to wonder if the DNC is just the local CCP franchise.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @anon

    Agree.

    Sometimes I don't know if Steve is being disingenuous with his


    Even I didn’t see the cancellation of Ulysses S. Grant coming
     
    stuff.

    Steve, all of this—and more—was always coming. It's always always been about hating whitey. That is the whole of wokeness. The rest is commentary.

    , @Prof. Woland
    @anon

    What bothers me even more is the knowledge that if we were to go do the same thing to one of their statues or icons (take the big ugly MLK statue in the Mall in DC) we would go to jail for 20 years while they prance around gleefully after pulling down one of ours. That is white privilege.

  8. syonredux says:
    June 20, 2020 at 6:49 am GMT • 100 Words   

    Nearby statue of Ulysses S. Grant is also toppled. He was a slave owner too, before the Civil War. That’s three for three this night.

    Well, his wife’s family owned slaves, but, to the best of my knowledge, Grant only owned one slave , whom he manumitted:

    In March 1859, Grant freed William by a manumission deed, potentially worth at least $1,000, when Grant needed the money.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant#Civilian_struggles,_slavery,_and_politics

    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance….

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux


    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance….

     

    CharlieBo313 has found a black "youth" named YT:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrUVfUbkng&t=58s

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Dannyboy
    @syonredux

    You'll have to excuse me while I have a little chuckle over this one and Mr Lincoln as well. A good portion of the Conservicucks on the "Right" had no problem with the cancellation of Confederate history and even vocally supported it.

    Well I guess that didn't buy them much time with the Red Brigades, now did it?

    lol

  9. Whiskey says: • Website
    June 20, 2020 at 6:57 am GMT • 300 Words   

    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won’t win a single state. He knows he’s over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She’s got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much … all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd’s birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) … Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out “the Purge” at their convenience.

    • LOL: Jonathan Mason
    • Troll: IHTG, fish
    • Replies: @Miro23
    @Whiskey


    It's over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.
     
    Agreed that this is now a headlong rush to the end.

    Also an economic collapse. The last thing that foreigners will want is the US dollar.
    , @Thoughts
    @Whiskey

    I know you guys don't like Whiskey

    But Blind Gossip has this as a major Blind

    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams

    Replies: @Charon, @Anon

    , @TorontoMans
    @Whiskey

    Trump is finished. You're right.

    He'll do worse than McCain, and lose Arizona and Georgia. The future is ugly. But sometimes things must be burned down in order to rebuild. Let's see.

    Canada was done long ago, our immigration rate is something like triple the USA's. The only party who wanted to slightly reduce immigration got 2% of the vote.

    , @JMcG
    @Whiskey

    Well, I wouldn’t put any money on your being wrong. God help us.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Whiskey

    Trump will be roasted on a open fire in November, and Republicans will be in no mood to pardon turkeys at Thanksgiving, but I think you are a bit too pessimistic about the future. President Demings will turn the nation into even more of a police state, which you will like.

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Whiskey

    The Democratic elites are essentially preparing their last will and testament now knowing that within this election cycle, they will be demographically turfed out of the leadership of their own party forever. There is no going back for them. And they probably thought they could hang on for a few more decades. No such luck. Whites are in-grouping on the right and they cannot switch to the Republicans or build any influence there. While that is happening, Pelosi, the Clintons, and their (((funders))) will get pulled down like a statue of Robert E. Lee and replaced by an anti-white populist making this permanent. Their only hope is to gift their party to blacks who will anchor the left coalition but will still be dependent on the elites for money and logistics. It will be reminiscent of de-colonization in Africa where the British had to step down as the rulers but tried (in vain) to control the new governments with arms and security. Our job is the repay the favor and let liberals and their good (((friends))) wonder in the desert for 400 years.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Whiskey

    Perhaps a bit OTT. E.g., Trump will win a few states. Stacey Abrams probably won’t be Biden’s successor. But largely correct.

    , @Single malt
    @Whiskey

    Halloween will be spared since it’s the queer high holy day.

  10. @syonredux

    Nearby statue of Ulysses S. Grant is also toppled. He was a slave owner too, before the Civil War. That’s three for three this night.
     
    Well, his wife's family owned slaves, but, to the best of my knowledge, Grant only owned one slave , whom he manumitted:

    In March 1859, Grant freed William by a manumission deed, potentially worth at least $1,000, when Grant needed the money.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant#Civilian_struggles,_slavery,_and_politics

    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance....

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dannyboy

    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance….

    CharlieBo313 has found a black “youth” named YT:

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Reg Cæsar

    LOL, good find.

    Cordial enough guys; bandwidth a bit low.

  11. syonredux says:
    June 20, 2020 at 7:02 am GMT • 100 Words   

    And the Albert Pike statue comes down….

    Protesters topple statue of Confederate General Albert Pike in Washington, DC
    Protesters tore down the statue, which stood near Judiciary Square, and set it alight on Friday evening. The sculpture was erected in 1901 and was DC’s only outdoor Confederate statue. Members of the DC Council have been trying to remove the statue of Pike since 1992.

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1274184130465390593

    • Replies: @BB753
    @syonredux

    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!

    Although, Albert Pike, the author of Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, would ultimately approve of the current mayhem if it brings about the reign of Lucifer:


    "We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Gordo
    @syonredux


    And the Albert Pike statue comes down….
     
    What will the 33rd Degree say about that?
    , @flyingtiger
    @syonredux

    Albert Pike was a Confederate leader, slave owner, and a founder of the KKK. When they started this statue pulling started, you would think that he would have been among the first to be pulled down. He was also a Free Mason leader, whom I presume was protecting the statue. Alas, it seems that the Free Masons have lost power and a new foreign entity is ruling the land.

  12. Today, Francis Scott Key, tomorrow, Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald.

  13. Did you read Jamelle Bouie’s latest opinion article in the NY Times? It is about how Black people freed themselves. What about White people fighting each other in the Civil War? What about White people proclaiming the Emancipation Proclamation? What about White people passing and ratifying the 13th Amendment? These things are dismissed as helping Black people who freed themselves.
    Obviously Black people were leading activists for their freedom and often ran away from bondage, but the point of his column is that White people on the right side like, in this case, Grant, were unimportant and can be canceled with impunity. It was always the Black man doing it for himself and always foiled by the White man. We wuz kangz. Y’all.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Wido Incognitus


    It is about how Black people freed themselves.
     
    And per the usual Narrative arc, the next column will have Black people doing ten times the work of any White in the enterprise.
    , @AceDeuce
    @Wido Incognitus

    With kneegarows, as it is with all chronic losers, the two greatest days in their pathetic, deluded, bloviating lives are yesterday and tomorrow. They're just never worth a flying fk today.

  14. indocon says:
    June 20, 2020 at 7:16 am GMT • 100 Words   

    So far the war is being paged pretty exclusively on the other sites turf, I’m looking at these pictures, my god what have they made of Golden Gate Park where all the statues were? BTW, no mention of this on front page of San Francisco chronicle right now. In a matter of weeks they have made one of crown jewels of liberalism into a true shit hole. Liberal elitists always felt that they had the cities as their ultimate weapon and asset, those stupid rednecks still came to visit the places where they lived, not the other way around, well I don’t think anybody is coming to see this summer and maybe beyond.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
    @indocon

    I'm all in favor of overthrowing the government.

    Is this speech allowed under Amendments 1 or 2?

    Just asking for a friend. Thanks.

    , @Pericles
    @indocon

    Don't worry. In a couple of years, they can replace the old racist stuff with a holocaust memorial.

  15. anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Just a few or two three years ago the WOKE crowd was rearing to have a go with the cast of “FRIENDS” for reasons. These idiots were enabled by their BOOMER NASCAR DAD’S belief that Saddam Hueisein in 2003 was a threat to any of and all of our freedoms .

  16. This wasn’t a surprise to anybody who saw that the confederate statues were being torn down for “racism” and not rebellion. Lots of whites rationalize it as the latter because it’s obvious this same argument would be used against practically every American of note. They were never going to stop at the confederates

    • Replies: @Giant Duck
    @Pop Warner

    Animus against the Founders has been brewing for decades. Back in the day, it was seen as kind of funny and over the top, as in this scene from the film Dazed and Confused. Surprise surprise some people took it at face value.

    https://youtu.be/sIv899V4rHk?t=33

    Replies: @Ray P

  17. Adios, so long, and sayonara, white Americans, you are not who we are.

  18. So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @JimB

    That's what artillery is for.

    , @Charon
    @JimB

    Too much like work. Even just getting there.

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @JimB

    It's only a matter of time. I'd say later this year, or 2021 at the latest.

    , @prime noticer
    @JimB

    "So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?"

    not until Biden is President. with Trump in office, at least he will have national monuments under federal protection.

    but Rushmore is probably going, that's true. i plan to get out there this summer. it likely won't be there anymore by 2030 or so.

    people are underestimating what a huge effect Biden's Vice President is going to have. she's going to be an african woman, and she's going to be President herself after Biden. things will change fast when she's in charge.

    Replies: @JimB

  19. anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    These seventy-something year old conservative sages found ways to avoid fighting the Viet-Cong and the NVA all the while bad-mouthing the hippies for being anti-war. Their parents could have come up with the few hundred bucks it would have taken to not fight back in the 1860’s.

  20. El Dato says:
    June 20, 2020 at 8:03 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    What’s the over/under for first attempt to pull down the statue of Thomas Jefferson in the Jefferson memorial? Or the first graffiti on the Washington monument calling for DC to be renamed?

    August 1 seems about right.

    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @El Dato, @Svevlad

    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.

    At this point, Trump is like a gimp providing comic relief from the back of a Mad Max killdozer coming to town to deliver to the cheering peons what they really deserve.

    Trump will probably win the elections (if they are held), then be ousted in a color operation, possibly with direct military support. Biden is all but laying it out.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @El Dato

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million? What % of cops are Trump supporters (scenes of local highway patrol cops taking selfies with Trump during his campaign stops were common)? What % of critical jobs like truck drivers are Trump supporters? How would blue cities fare if they went on strike in protest?

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Corn, @Ray Huffman

  21. @Pop Warner
    This wasn't a surprise to anybody who saw that the confederate statues were being torn down for "racism" and not rebellion. Lots of whites rationalize it as the latter because it's obvious this same argument would be used against practically every American of note. They were never going to stop at the confederates

    Replies: @Giant Duck

    Animus against the Founders has been brewing for decades. Back in the day, it was seen as kind of funny and over the top, as in this scene from the film Dazed and Confused. Surprise surprise some people took it at face value.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Giant Duck

    Bringing a tear to Steve Dude's eye by replaying scenes from his youth.

  22. @indocon
    So far the war is being paged pretty exclusively on the other sites turf, I'm looking at these pictures, my god what have they made of Golden Gate Park where all the statues were? BTW, no mention of this on front page of San Francisco chronicle right now. In a matter of weeks they have made one of crown jewels of liberalism into a true shit hole. Liberal elitists always felt that they had the cities as their ultimate weapon and asset, those stupid rednecks still came to visit the places where they lived, not the other way around, well I don't think anybody is coming to see this summer and maybe beyond.

    Replies: @petit bourgeois, @Pericles

    I’m all in favor of overthrowing the government.

    Is this speech allowed under Amendments 1 or 2?

    Just asking for a friend. Thanks.

  23. Bert says:
    June 20, 2020 at 8:24 am GMT • 200 Words   

    …..Thomas Jefferson. Sure, he wasn’t a redneck and he founded the modern Democratic Party, but he was a Southerner so that makes him practically Trump. He was a slave owner and there’s the whole rapist-of-a-black-body thing.

    When will the HBD-realists confront the likelihood that rape of female slaves is largely mythical. Knowing that human females of all races display hypergamic behavior, is it not likely that many slaves welcomed the prospect of having a mulatto child? An uncle of mine was an extremely handsome and dynamic white man. Late in his life we were talking and he told me that I could have had a mulatto cousin if he had not practiced his Christian principles. He was visiting a friend’s farm in the 1940’s and was looking for something in the barn when a black woman engaged him in conversation and tried to pull him down on top of her. He successfully resisted.

    How much slave rape is plausible?

    • Replies: @Bert
    @Bert

    An addendum to my comment. Different levels of past miscegenation in British north versus French south Louisiana are suggested by the skin tones of blacks in those regions. If genetic tests confirmed less interbreeding in north Louisiana, that would suggest the limiting variable for miscegenation is the willingness of whites, rather than of blacks, to participate in it.

    , @kihowi
    @Bert

    In general, when group A rules over group B, there's not a lot of A on B rape because you can't rape the willing.

    , @Stan d Mute
    @Bert


    How much slave rape is plausible?
     
    The key to understanding this, as with pretty much the entire “peculiar institution” is to understand the economics.

    A mulatto was worth considerably more than a negro. A quadroon or octoroon even more. So I’d expect there was a lot of miscegenation simply due to the financial incentives.

    Presumably then as now, there was a dearth of white men willing to perform the job of inseminating negroes, and there may have been a special niche for the rare white willing to do the deed as a hired contractor. Obviously we would never be told that white contractors would be paid by slave owners to produce mulattoes due to the fragility of our negro females today. But isn’t that the way it always works when there’s money to be made doing a disgusting job (think septic tank cleaning today)?
  24. @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    Because Trump has never been committed to anything but his own egomania.

  25. Joe Sobran nailed this almost a quarter century ago:

    “Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself.
    Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared.
    The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation.
    The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it.
    And, superiority excites envy.
    Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities.”
    Joseph Sobran, April 1997

    In a 1997 lecture, Joseph Sobran elucidated:

    The modern state has to police more and more of our lives, because it has set itself against the normal. It defines normal acquisition as greed, normal group preferences as bigotry, and normal morality as hate. Consequently it has to watch over us at all times to make sure we aren’t too assertive about our normality, while it caters to our abnormalities.

    Treason used to mean the subversion of the state. But the state itself now works the subversion of society. In other times, including Shakespeare’s, it has been understood that the state’s whole justification for existing is to support and protect normal life against the criminal, the savage, the perverse. Even tyrants never questioned this assumption.

    • Replies: @anon215
    @Bill Jones

    Beat me to it. That Sobran quote came to my mind as well, and it so perfectly explains the situation we're in today.

    , @Altai
    @Bill Jones


    It defines normal acquisition as greed.
     
    It defines greed as normal acquisition. And assumes any accumulation of wealth as being due to the creation of wealth.

    FTFY.

  26. @El Dato
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.
     
    At this point, Trump is like a gimp providing comic relief from the back of a Mad Max killdozer coming to town to deliver to the cheering peons what they really deserve.

    Trump will probably win the elections (if they are held), then be ousted in a color operation, possibly with direct military support. Biden is all but laying it out.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million? What % of cops are Trump supporters (scenes of local highway patrol cops taking selfies with Trump during his campaign stops were common)? What % of critical jobs like truck drivers are Trump supporters? How would blue cities fare if they went on strike in protest?

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, Corn
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Dave Pinsen


    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?
     
    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump's position, I'd recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @tyrone

    , @Corn
    @Dave Pinsen


    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.
     
    “Or the revolutionaries will push into red areas”

    Yup. Team Red is restraining itself because we’re fat and happy with our sportsball and video games and junk food. Feel we have too much to lose. But if the BLM (burning, looting, mayhem) crew leaves the blue cities and takes their show on the road to red suburbs and small towns, things get interesting.

    When it’s Red Whites losing their small businesses and homes to molotov cocktails and bricks, the much discussed, seldom seen backlash may begin.
    , @Ray Huffman
    @Dave Pinsen

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Exactly. The cops exist to protect them from us, not the other way around, and no one who has thought seriously about the matter believes otherwise. They think they're pushing around sheep, but they're really baiting bears.

    Several times over the course of a week, columns of these punks marched down a side street right past my apartment building where I was standing on a fourth floor balcony watching. To give an idea of how close I was, if I had been standing on that spot the ground floor, I would have been literally 20 feet away from them. I remember thinking how easy it would be for me to walk just 75 feet back to my apartment, retrieve my 590A1 Persuader, and take out at least a dozen of them from that vantage--it was ideal shotgun range.

    The establishment has badly bungled its plan by springing this crap on us before getting us disarmed.

  27. Miro23 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 8:40 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    The SJW’s and MSM want a police/military crack down so that they can broadcast their victimhood.

    Trump isn’t obliging – even if the cost is more mob rule and being perceived as weak.

    It’s actually a do-nothing competition between the President, state and local authorities. All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression – the return of the Adolf Hitler.

    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos. They actually celebrate the mob rooting out Anglos and destroying their culture and symbols.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Miro23


    All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression – the return of the Adolf Hitler.
     
    If we are really this ruled by the MSM, then we are good and truly screwed.

    We've got an ersatz Kristallnacht rolling along, which highlights the maxim that Hitler was right: the winners of history are the ones that go Hitler on their enemies and get away with it.
    , @Just another serf
    @Miro23


    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos
     
    I can see nothing that will benefit Jews in this present trajectory. Not the upcoming irreversible economic collapse. Not the collapse of any recognizable law and order. Millions of Jews did not rush into black controlled South Africa for the new opportunities available once that nation was torn apart.
  28. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    It’s over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Agreed that this is now a headlong rush to the end.

    Also an economic collapse. The last thing that foreigners will want is the US dollar.

  29. When is The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down getting cancelled?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tony Tea

    Soon.

  30. Bert says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:17 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Bert

    …..Thomas Jefferson. Sure, he wasn’t a redneck and he founded the modern Democratic Party, but he was a Southerner so that makes him practically Trump. He was a slave owner and there’s the whole rapist-of-a-black-body thing.
     
    When will the HBD-realists confront the likelihood that rape of female slaves is largely mythical. Knowing that human females of all races display hypergamic behavior, is it not likely that many slaves welcomed the prospect of having a mulatto child? An uncle of mine was an extremely handsome and dynamic white man. Late in his life we were talking and he told me that I could have had a mulatto cousin if he had not practiced his Christian principles. He was visiting a friend's farm in the 1940's and was looking for something in the barn when a black woman engaged him in conversation and tried to pull him down on top of her. He successfully resisted.

    How much slave rape is plausible?

    Replies: @Bert, @kihowi, @Stan d Mute

    An addendum to my comment. Different levels of past miscegenation in British north versus French south Louisiana are suggested by the skin tones of blacks in those regions. If genetic tests confirmed less interbreeding in north Louisiana, that would suggest the limiting variable for miscegenation is the willingness of whites, rather than of blacks, to participate in it.

  31. @Tony Tea
    When is The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down getting cancelled?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Soon.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  32. @NJ Transit Commuter
    What’s the over/under for first attempt to pull down the statue of Thomas Jefferson in the Jefferson memorial? Or the first graffiti on the Washington monument calling for DC to be renamed?

    August 1 seems about right.

    Trumps’s only chance is for BLM to go all in and pull enough Democrats along with them that suburban moms once again hold their nose and vote for him.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV, @El Dato, @Svevlad

    they got him by the balls

    He didn’t purge the scum on time, and this happens

    Now the only way is to accelerate, then pull an Assad

  33. Thoughts says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:30 am GMT • 200 Words   

    Scenario 1:

    Deep in the black psyche they have come to realize that they play 0 part in the future of the United States

    It’s a tough pill to swallow

    Their physical labor is no longer needed, as Hispanics can do it better and cheaper.

    The future for black Americans is almost chillingly bleak

    This is Black Custard’s last stand before they get corralled onto the reservations, not by whites in particular, but by everyone else

    —————————————————————————-

    Scenario 2:

    Flip side…20 years of African Immigration (thanks Obama, Bush and the lot!) has led to the creation of a wee bit more intelligent African African American (not descended from slaves, but slave-owners themselves) with the wonderful African Ego of Never-Ending Supremacy

    And they really believe that they are going to take over and hold the whip over all us whites as they cream dreamed for so many hundreds of years

    Unfortunately the black ego is completely irrational and this will backfire and everything from Jewish Real Estate plans to resettling in the barren wastelands of middle America will happen as so expertly laid out by iSteve commentators

    Leading to a chillingly bleak future

    This isn’t South Africa, and I can’t be the only white person who is muttering under their breath ‘I will NEVER speak/interact with a black person in any meaningful way again’ (which actually is really heartbreaking for the few blacks with good hearts)

    Can’t make up my mind as to which one it is

    There’s a third option…that these guys get the whip hand and we have Communism 2.0…but Aztecs and Asians would be so much more effective at corralling whites into concentration camps

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Thoughts


    This isn’t South Africa, and I can’t be the only white person who is muttering under their breath ‘I will NEVER speak/interact with a black person in any meaningful way again’ (which actually is really heartbreaking for the few blacks with good hearts)
     
    Yes this has been rather a polarising few weeks.

    What they don't seem to have worked out is that when you start political violence you new quite know whose body will end up in the Landwehr Canal.
  34. Veracitor says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:35 am GMT • 600 Words   

    This tearing down of statues is not a matter of simple hatred, but a fascinating expression of evolutionary psychology (sociobiology). Some have asked “why get so upset about old statues? We are not idol-worshippers.” The answer is: breaking a statue directly harms the living people whose ancestors it represents.

    What is status for young people? It corresponds to mating desirability.

    Youth, strength, beauty, and intelligence are desirable in a mate. Wealth, good judgement, leadership skills, parenting ability, and resilience are also very desirable, but hard to judge in a young potential mate. Those things are, however, highly heritable.

    Rather than let youth and strength fade while waiting for wealth and wisdom and so-forth to ripen, one simply looks at the potential mate’s ancestors and older relatives, then imputes their characteristics to the potential mate.

    Or to put that more simply, you want your kids to marry the descendants of successful people.

    All those statues represent the successful ancestors of today’s high-status people. The status of young people depends for biological reasons on the status of their ancestors, and that status is signified and certified by the existence of those statues. Why else would anyone pay to erect them? The older the subject of a statue, the more people claim descent from him or her. Figures of sufficient antiquity and fame lend status to whole races of putative descendants.

    The statue-breakers are reducing the status of everyone who claims descent from the ancient worthies the statues represent. People looking for mates will discount candidates whose families are unable to protect the statues of their ancestors.

    Status is relative so each time some vandals destroy a statue they raise their own status by a fraction. By this means vandals improve their mating prospects: they undercut their rivals’ desirability and thereby boost their own. As Steve pointed out a couple of weeks ago (link) Antifa tend to be quite ugly– they are poor mating prospects. They will do anything, however wicked, to boost their mating desirability.

    In long-term effect, breaking the statues of someone’s ancestors is like kicking a man in the balls or throwing acid in a woman’s face. It is an attack on the victims’ ability to reproduce. It is worse than robbing someone of money. Everybody knows that money comes and goes but family is forever. Attacking statues of racial ancestors is more than symbolic genocide, it is a subtle form of real genocide.

    All the statues of Confederate figures in America are there because Americans chose to end their Civil War with much less than the customary portion of rancor. After Lee surrendered with all his men at Appomattox, General Grant released them all on parole not to thereafter bear arms against the Union and bid his army to let them go quietly, saying “The Confederates were now our countrymen, and we did not want to exult over their downfall.” When the passions of the war had faded and the Confederate leaders had died off, America permitted their descendants to put up statues of them so Southerners could claim almost as much ancestral status as Northerners. It was a small price to pay for domestic harmony.

    The nihilists who lead the American BLM+Antifa Left wish to destroy what’s left of the American people. Breaking all of their statues is a big step toward that. The complicity of nearly all American politicians proves that they are malevolent traitors. An attack like this– not just some looting, but widespread symbolic genocide– is so vicious that I fear it presages internecine warfare.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Veracitor

    This comment needs a Bravo! button for us to click on.

    Crikey I feel like pasting an American flag decal on my car.

  35. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    I know you guys don’t like Whiskey

    But Blind Gossip has this as a major Blind

    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Thoughts

    He won't make it to the halfway point imho.

    , @Anon
    @Thoughts


    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams
     
    Doesn’t really matter. Starting in 2015 and getting more conspicuous each year, the permanent establishment, Deep State, controls America.

    The U.S. Presidency is a titular position. The FBI, State Department, Pentagon, CIA, et al., do what they want and don’t do what they don’t want to do. The President has no real power. The President wants to use elements of the military to pacify American cities and the SecDef and head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff say no. End of story. The President calls for removal of troops from Syria and the Pentagon generals says no, they’re staying. End of story except for the investigations and hearings into Trump’s recklessness in wanting to bring the troops home. And on and on.

    Even the U.S. Attorney has no real power. AG Barr designates Antifa a domestic terrorist group but then Wray and the FBI come out and say nope, they have no evidence of that, and the only real threat is white supremacist groups.


    [A]ccording to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau's Washington, DC, field office "has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence" in the violence that took place that day.

    However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-no-intelligence-antifa-weekend-violence-george-floyd-protests-2020-6
     

    I kind of hope Trump loses in November so we can get on with inevitable unraveling of the empire and commence with the nasty infighting and bloodletting that will follow. I want to see the professional establishment conspirators destroyed by the coming leftist inquisition mobs. I want to see them toppled like statues. Being a NeverTrumper won’t be good enough for the angry mob.
  36. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:37 am GMT • 500 Words   

    Their real offense is their fame: Their visages are carved upon the landscape at Mount Rushmore. That can be irritating to proud people whose ancestors didn’t contribute as much to America.

    The original effective starting date of history in America was Jamestown to 1776. The very long history of human settlement didn’t count. (Though a lack of written records doesn’t help, even if it existed, I doubt it would have been treated as ‘American History’ but ‘Native American History’)

    A new people, a new start point for history that coincides with their presence. The same thing has been happening in America since the great waves of immigration. Ellis Island schmaltz isn’t just a source of sentimentality about immigration itself but an effective refocusing of history, the start of American history to the late 90th century. And now we’re seeing the post 68 wave starting to focus the start of American history to the post-war period of it’s great empire or maybe the civil rights period. (The great wave seems kinda racist when you think about it, all those white people helping to make American whiter than ever, cutting off freed black labour at the knees just when it was starting to make gains) Cartoons used to feature the revolutionary war or Jamestown, even into the late 90s. Now the ethnic and generational lag has ensured such topics seem weird and antiquated.

    Maybe the new Starbucks-people wave (I use the term for post 2000 immigrants to Western countries who live so apart from the natives socially and who find great succor in major international brands like Starbucks or Ikea and feel less comfortable in ordinary businesses) will start to look at everything before the total social unraveling of America as ‘not America’.

    A kind of sense of this is seen in Hamilton, where as Steve notes, Hamilton has been totally transformed from a reactionary Scottish begrudger who had little time for Democracy to a ‘vibrant’ ‘immigrant’ who likes to rap in order to make the man who established the Federal Reserve the good guy or perhaps the post 68 American.

    The real threat is the attacks on George Washington. Washington and the founders were turned from real people into semi-mythical grand philosophers who created the American creed, this also made it easier for immigrants who had no roots to that time to accept him. Once you attack them (Particularly on the basis of them being real people, which is not how America sees them or what those statues represent), the connection of America to it’s own past is made very weak. Once you attack them the already dangerously vague creed of American-ness is beyond definition. I don’t think the protestors know what they did. It doesn’t serve their interests.

    • Replies: @S
    @Altai

    I'd been wondering if they'd take this step with Washington. They'd already been going after 'renegade' elites, ie Southern Confederates, for some time.

    And now Grant too.

    Is the next step going to be digging up and displaying rotting corpses of 'bad people' as these sorts have done in 1930's Spain, circa 1920 Russia, and during the 1960's Chinese 'cultural revolution'?

    Replies: @Altai

  37. People with Conquistador-American names shouldn’t complain about dead slaveowners.

    • Agree: ic1000
  38. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    And the best Tweet from that guys thread.

    Sweetest moment? Most depressing moment? Most hilarious moment? You decide.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Altai

    How long until Pelosi holds a vote on a bill to replace The Star Spangled Banner? Given his role in the American Colonization Society, I am surprised they hadn't come after Francis Scott Key already. It is somewhat surprising the ACS has come up more often in this festival of hate. Maybe the people organizing all this don't like Liberians.

  39. Dumbo says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:53 am GMT • 100 Words   

    It’s all being cancelled. It’s full-on censorship now. It’s full on War on Whitey. Oops, I mean, whitey, it’s not an ethnicity and should not be capitalized, right? Only Blacks and Jews get that distinction. But shouldn’t we also capitalize Homosexuals? And Trannies?

    Speaking of Trannies, I went to watch a video on the “Slave New World” channel and:

    This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube’s policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten.

    LOL. Courtesy Susanne Whateversky, Youtube’s (((CEO))). Welcome to 1984, bitches!!

  40. @Dave Pinsen
    @El Dato

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million? What % of cops are Trump supporters (scenes of local highway patrol cops taking selfies with Trump during his campaign stops were common)? What % of critical jobs like truck drivers are Trump supporters? How would blue cities fare if they went on strike in protest?

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Corn, @Ray Huffman

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?

    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump’s position, I’d recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    If I were Trump, I'd station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Whiskey, @Dave Pinsen

    , @Sean
    @The Alarmist


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/03/ulysses-s-grant-and-general-orders-no-11-how-the-infamous-order-changed-the-lives-of-jews-in-america.html

    On Dec. 17, 1862, as the Civil War entered its second winter, Gen. Ulysses S. Grant issued the most notorious anti-Jewish official order in American history
     

    The order was instantly reversed as soon as Lincoln heard, and hardly enforced because of the chaos caused by a raid Confederate forces under Forrest (latter the founder 0f the KKK). After the Civil War, Grant pulled the country together by obscuring slavery as a cause, and explaining preservation of the Union was real reason the Civil War had to be fought. Trump is beginning to move toward explicitly dumping the trade war with China and explaining what is really behind it is a policy of preventing China becoming a regional hegemon in East Asia. The main tenet of American foreign policy is to balance against a power that might succeed in dominating its own region

    The US finance elite are what counts and unless China continues to grow Wall Streets assets will turn toxic. Trump has been more successful than anticipated and if reelected would have the authority to try and derail China entirely, although that can't work now because China is has too much momentum. Unfortunately military pressure and outright war is going to be the only way to stop China. The armed forces don't want to fight China. They chose that career: they must deal with taking orders or resign.


    https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737266Coup d'État
    A Practical Handbook, Revised Edition Edward N. Luttwak

    The world has changed dramatically in the past half century, but not the essence of the coup d’état. It still requires the secret recruitment of military officers who command the loyalty of units well placed to seize important headquarters and key hubs in the capital city. The support of the armed forces as a whole is needed only in the aftermath, to avoid countercoups.
     

    Recruitment of officer as conspirators would be impossible, quite apart from their oath being against it. A coup against Trump might present itself as being patriotic, but would be tied up with foreign intelligence services. Only an officer soft in the head would not instantly assume that he was being asked to join a foreign backed conspiracy. An assassination is far more likely.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?
     
    Even if they found enough warfighters they would need to find enough vibrants and women to maintain, troubleshoot, and repair their fancy gear.

    In an extended conflict they'd need enough to do design, development, and research.

    Such people exist in the same sense as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, unicorns, yeti, Nessie, etc.
    , @tyrone
    @The Alarmist

    If shit got real I would rely on the marine corps and the secret weapon: force recon ,as good as it gets.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  41. But worst of all, Jefferson makes people in power today feel inadequate.

    Because they are.

  42. yanouz says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:58 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    He may sense how much this destruction is pissing people off. Even with semi-competent like Trump on the ticket, people who are rightly fearful will go with their gut and vote for the Republican.

    Sideshow Bob put it best, though with the expected Simpsons slant: “You need me, Springfield. Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That’s why I did this, to save you from yourselves. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a city to run.”

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @yanouz

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election.

    All he has to do is key out an occasional tweet blasting the mayors and governors for doing nothing.

    The average American suburban middle class white (particularly women) are very complacent.

    Trump wants them angry--and expressing their anger by turning out to vote for him.

    The Democrats are mice going for the leftist cheese--the trap will spring in the fall.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Keypusher

  43. Wilkey says:

    It’s almost as if The Mob doesn’t hate Confederates, so much as they hate whites

    It isn’t just the loud-mouthed extremists. I have a few white, liberal “friends” who like to play themselves off as thoughtful and moderate who advocate for removing Confederate statues and memorials. Not one of them has said a damn thing against the recent destruction of the non-Confederate statues. Destruction of white culture has always been the intention. I have always assumed that was their real goal, but now it is obvious.

    Where are Democratic politicians on all of this? Has a single damn one of them said anything against the way these statues are being removed, or about the non-Confederate statues that have been vandalized or demolished?

    Silence implies consent. And Dem politicians are consenting to destruction of our culture and to rule by the mob.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Wilkey


    Destruction of white culture has always been the intention. I have always assumed that was their real goal, but now it is obvious.
     
    When are they coming for the museums?

    Replies: @David In TN

  44. @The Alarmist
    @Dave Pinsen


    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?
     
    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump's position, I'd recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @tyrone

    If I were Trump, I’d station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Steve Sailer

    In my day, there was some consternation among a few of the more political GFOs that there were very few minority Operators. The demographics of the US military in general also don't bode well for an anti-Trump coup.

    https://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/files/styles/large_l_2x_680/public/image/2018/04/diversityArtboard%201%20copy%206%402x_0.png

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Steve Sailer


    If I were Trump, I’d station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:
     
    I'd take Delta...I mean the Unit over those squiddie showboaters:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force
    , @Whiskey
    @Steve Sailer

    Wouldn't do much. Against a major coup attempt Seals would be a speed bump.
    A coup is very likely and would be easy to pull off. Soldiers and cops obey. No matter who is in charge.

    Truckers who don't deliver to Blue Cities are easily replaced.

    Trump and us need a war. A big one with China that we lose and they start. So he can replace everyone above captain with his people. And White men are needed.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1130030310417084416?s=21

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  45. @Bert

    …..Thomas Jefferson. Sure, he wasn’t a redneck and he founded the modern Democratic Party, but he was a Southerner so that makes him practically Trump. He was a slave owner and there’s the whole rapist-of-a-black-body thing.
     
    When will the HBD-realists confront the likelihood that rape of female slaves is largely mythical. Knowing that human females of all races display hypergamic behavior, is it not likely that many slaves welcomed the prospect of having a mulatto child? An uncle of mine was an extremely handsome and dynamic white man. Late in his life we were talking and he told me that I could have had a mulatto cousin if he had not practiced his Christian principles. He was visiting a friend's farm in the 1940's and was looking for something in the barn when a black woman engaged him in conversation and tried to pull him down on top of her. He successfully resisted.

    How much slave rape is plausible?

    Replies: @Bert, @kihowi, @Stan d Mute

    In general, when group A rules over group B, there’s not a lot of A on B rape because you can’t rape the willing.

  46. Bill P says:

    I went to my small college city’s downtown yesterday with the family. It has changed profoundly over the course of the last three months.

    Ordinarily, on a warm Friday afternoon near midsummer, there would be throngs of young people, thriving businesses, the smell of food in the air and the sound of people talking and laughing.

    All that is gone. The people who remain are the homeless and those with nothing else to do. It was sketchy and slightly menacing. Some businesses had stencilled Black Lives Matter on their windows, perhaps to prevent them from being broken by leftists, who held a couple protests over the last week. A number of restaurants had “for sale” signs in their windows. For those businesses that were open, prospects looked grim.

    Our mayor did a pretty good job keeping things under control. There was a very heavy police presence during the protests and I didn’t see any signs of vandalism. Local media did not go out of its way to stir the pot, fortunately. Hardly any blacks live here, but in the Pacific NW it has been mostly white leftists destroying things.

    I remarked to my wife that it reminded me of scenes from my childhood in the late 70s and early 80s, when large parts of downtown Seattle were abandoned except for a few bedraggled types trudging around the once-thriving streets.

    However, everywhere outside the leftist core, there are renewed signs of life. The mall is filling back up, the arterials are as busy as ever and people are carrying on.

    It’s remarkable how quickly cities can be emptied out. The woke progressives have scored an own goal. They have succeeded in chasing out all the normal people and installing themselves as the rulers of a wasteland.

    All those statues coming down and businesses closing are being portrayed as a triumph by the national media, but from what I saw it looks more like the rest of America abandoning them.

    I’m not quite old enough to have seen the late 60s abandonment of cities as it happened, but I saw the aftermath. It wasn’t until after I got out of high school in the 90s that urban renewal really began to pick up steam.

    Maybe someone here can tell me whether it happened so quickly back in the late 60s. I am really amazed at the speed with which these events have occurred. I knew nothing good would come of the coronavirus lockdowns, but I never thought we’d see a nationwide breakdown of law and order accompanied by a mass exodus from urban cores over the course of a few weeks.

    • Agree: Yancey Ward
    • Replies: @Bert
    @Bill P

    In Birmingham, Alabama, the exodus of whites began in the 1940's with the establishment of the suburbs of Mountain Brook and Homewood. In the 1950's those towns grew substantially, and Vestavia Hills and Hoover were established farther out. During the 1980's suburbs were extended to Shelby County yet farther from Birmingham. By that time all whites who could afford to had left Birmingham. This link shows almost the current almost total racial separation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama#/media/File:Race_and_ethnicity_2010-_Birmingham_(5559862755).png

    I believe the same chronology applies to most Southern cities.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  47. Sherman is next, and ultimately, Lincoln.
    I man, what did they ever do for black people in this country? Nothing that excuses their being so late to endorse the idea of abolition. It looks like Coates fired the initial salvo against Sherman, way back in 2010, but it has not hit its mark. Yet. And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @william munny

    I hope they pull down every monument within their mechanical ability, especially those of Lincoln. Nothing could be better to concentrate the minds of previously disinterested Caucasians. This is the shark jumping moment of Cultural Marxism, and there will be a massive reaction sooner rather than later.

    , @David In TN
    @william munny

    How long before Lowry, Williamson, French, etc, write pieces on "The Conservative Case for Canceling Grant, Lincoln, and Sherman."

    Replies: @BB753

    , @S
    @william munny


    And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.
     
    Wait till they find out what Gandhi and Che Guevara said about Black people.

    Like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children.
  48. Bert says:
    @Bill P
    I went to my small college city's downtown yesterday with the family. It has changed profoundly over the course of the last three months.

    Ordinarily, on a warm Friday afternoon near midsummer, there would be throngs of young people, thriving businesses, the smell of food in the air and the sound of people talking and laughing.

    All that is gone. The people who remain are the homeless and those with nothing else to do. It was sketchy and slightly menacing. Some businesses had stencilled Black Lives Matter on their windows, perhaps to prevent them from being broken by leftists, who held a couple protests over the last week. A number of restaurants had "for sale" signs in their windows. For those businesses that were open, prospects looked grim.

    Our mayor did a pretty good job keeping things under control. There was a very heavy police presence during the protests and I didn't see any signs of vandalism. Local media did not go out of its way to stir the pot, fortunately. Hardly any blacks live here, but in the Pacific NW it has been mostly white leftists destroying things.

    I remarked to my wife that it reminded me of scenes from my childhood in the late 70s and early 80s, when large parts of downtown Seattle were abandoned except for a few bedraggled types trudging around the once-thriving streets.

    However, everywhere outside the leftist core, there are renewed signs of life. The mall is filling back up, the arterials are as busy as ever and people are carrying on.

    It's remarkable how quickly cities can be emptied out. The woke progressives have scored an own goal. They have succeeded in chasing out all the normal people and installing themselves as the rulers of a wasteland.

    All those statues coming down and businesses closing are being portrayed as a triumph by the national media, but from what I saw it looks more like the rest of America abandoning them.

    I'm not quite old enough to have seen the late 60s abandonment of cities as it happened, but I saw the aftermath. It wasn't until after I got out of high school in the 90s that urban renewal really began to pick up steam.

    Maybe someone here can tell me whether it happened so quickly back in the late 60s. I am really amazed at the speed with which these events have occurred. I knew nothing good would come of the coronavirus lockdowns, but I never thought we'd see a nationwide breakdown of law and order accompanied by a mass exodus from urban cores over the course of a few weeks.

    Replies: @Bert

    In Birmingham, Alabama, the exodus of whites began in the 1940’s with the establishment of the suburbs of Mountain Brook and Homewood. In the 1950’s those towns grew substantially, and Vestavia Hills and Hoover were established farther out. During the 1980’s suburbs were extended to Shelby County yet farther from Birmingham. By that time all whites who could afford to had left Birmingham. This link shows almost the current almost total racial separation:


    I believe the same chronology applies to most Southern cities.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Bert

    In Houston when the taxpayers moved away from the schools they annexed the suburbs into the city limits as fast as they could. In New Orleans the north shore of Lake Ponchartrain is referred to as the White Shore by many of the black folk in the city.

  49. Sean says:
    @The Alarmist
    @Dave Pinsen


    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?
     
    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump's position, I'd recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @tyrone

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/03/ulysses-s-grant-and-general-orders-no-11-how-the-infamous-order-changed-the-lives-of-jews-in-america.html

    On Dec. 17, 1862, as the Civil War entered its second winter, Gen. Ulysses S. Grant issued the most notorious anti-Jewish official order in American history

    The order was instantly reversed as soon as Lincoln heard, and hardly enforced because of the chaos caused by a raid Confederate forces under Forrest (latter the founder 0f the KKK). After the Civil War, Grant pulled the country together by obscuring slavery as a cause, and explaining preservation of the Union was real reason the Civil War had to be fought. Trump is beginning to move toward explicitly dumping the trade war with China and explaining what is really behind it is a policy of preventing China becoming a regional hegemon in East Asia. The main tenet of American foreign policy is to balance against a power that might succeed in dominating its own region

    The US finance elite are what counts and unless China continues to grow Wall Streets assets will turn toxic. Trump has been more successful than anticipated and if reelected would have the authority to try and derail China entirely, although that can’t work now because China is has too much momentum. Unfortunately military pressure and outright war is going to be the only way to stop China. The armed forces don’t want to fight China. They chose that career: they must deal with taking orders or resign.

    https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737266Coup d’État
    A Practical Handbook, Revised Edition Edward N. Luttwak

    The world has changed dramatically in the past half century, but not the essence of the coup d’état. It still requires the secret recruitment of military officers who command the loyalty of units well placed to seize important headquarters and key hubs in the capital city. The support of the armed forces as a whole is needed only in the aftermath, to avoid countercoups.

    Recruitment of officer as conspirators would be impossible, quite apart from their oath being against it. A coup against Trump might present itself as being patriotic, but would be tied up with foreign intelligence services. Only an officer soft in the head would not instantly assume that he was being asked to join a foreign backed conspiracy. An assassination is far more likely.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    If I were Trump, I'd station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Whiskey, @Dave Pinsen

    In my day, there was some consternation among a few of the more political GFOs that there were very few minority Operators. The demographics of the US military in general also don’t bode well for an anti-Trump coup.

  51. @william munny
    Sherman is next, and ultimately, Lincoln.
    I man, what did they ever do for black people in this country? Nothing that excuses their being so late to endorse the idea of abolition. It looks like Coates fired the initial salvo against Sherman, way back in 2010, but it has not hit its mark. Yet. And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.

    Replies: @Bert, @David In TN, @S

    I hope they pull down every monument within their mechanical ability, especially those of Lincoln. Nothing could be better to concentrate the minds of previously disinterested Caucasians. This is the shark jumping moment of Cultural Marxism, and there will be a massive reaction sooner rather than later.

  52. @indocon
    So far the war is being paged pretty exclusively on the other sites turf, I'm looking at these pictures, my god what have they made of Golden Gate Park where all the statues were? BTW, no mention of this on front page of San Francisco chronicle right now. In a matter of weeks they have made one of crown jewels of liberalism into a true shit hole. Liberal elitists always felt that they had the cities as their ultimate weapon and asset, those stupid rednecks still came to visit the places where they lived, not the other way around, well I don't think anybody is coming to see this summer and maybe beyond.

    Replies: @petit bourgeois, @Pericles

    Don’t worry. In a couple of years, they can replace the old racist stuff with a holocaust memorial.

  53. Jake says:

    Grant owned slaves before the Civil War and after: the Emancipation Proclamation applied only to the largest portion of the Confederate States of America. It freed no slaves in OH or NJ or the DofC or MD or KY or MO or even TN.

    Grant also was as pure a racist as Honest Abe.

    All black civil rights has enkernelled in it hatred of Whitey, a simmering rage to replace Whitey by any means necessary. That means not just the blacks themselves but the whites who fund it and plan it.

  54. @Wido Incognitus
    Did you read Jamelle Bouie's latest opinion article in the NY Times? It is about how Black people freed themselves. What about White people fighting each other in the Civil War? What about White people proclaiming the Emancipation Proclamation? What about White people passing and ratifying the 13th Amendment? These things are dismissed as helping Black people who freed themselves.
    Obviously Black people were leading activists for their freedom and often ran away from bondage, but the point of his column is that White people on the right side like, in this case, Grant, were unimportant and can be canceled with impunity. It was always the Black man doing it for himself and always foiled by the White man. We wuz kangz. Y'all.

    Replies: @bomag, @AceDeuce

    It is about how Black people freed themselves.

    And per the usual Narrative arc, the next column will have Black people doing ten times the work of any White in the enterprise.

  55. @Giant Duck
    @Pop Warner

    Animus against the Founders has been brewing for decades. Back in the day, it was seen as kind of funny and over the top, as in this scene from the film Dazed and Confused. Surprise surprise some people took it at face value.

    https://youtu.be/sIv899V4rHk?t=33

    Replies: @Ray P

    Bringing a tear to Steve Dude’s eye by replaying scenes from his youth.

  56. @JimB
    So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?

    Replies: @bomag, @Charon, @Mike_from_SGV, @prime noticer

    That’s what artillery is for.

  57. @Bill Jones
    Joe Sobran nailed this almost a quarter century ago:

    "Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself.
    Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared.
    The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don't grasp what it really means: humiliation.
    The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't conscious of it.
    And, superiority excites envy.
    Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities."
    Joseph Sobran, April 1997

    In a 1997 lecture, Joseph Sobran elucidated:

    The modern state has to police more and more of our lives, because it has set itself against the normal. It defines normal acquisition as greed, normal group preferences as bigotry, and normal morality as hate. Consequently it has to watch over us at all times to make sure we aren’t too assertive about our normality, while it caters to our abnormalities.

    Treason used to mean the subversion of the state. But the state itself now works the subversion of society. In other times, including Shakespeare’s, it has been understood that the state’s whole justification for existing is to support and protect normal life against the criminal, the savage, the perverse. Even tyrants never questioned this assumption.

    Replies: @anon215, @Altai

    Beat me to it. That Sobran quote came to my mind as well, and it so perfectly explains the situation we’re in today.

  58. Charon says:
    @anon
    The tearing down of statues, starting with Lee's, angers me more than the looting, the arson, and the murders.
    It's a threat to me that I had better keep my mouth shut - don't speak, don't think.
    Incredible that mobs can do this all over the country with the support of the government. It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    Replies: @Charon, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Almost Missouri, @Prof. Woland

    Why should they ever stop with statues and monuments? Think of all the fine old pre-war (WW2) buildings across our once-fair land. Weren’t they built by racists? Some with actual slave labor, if you go back far enough. Even north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

    Don’t even get me started on the California missions. Fact is, it all has to go. Raze everything to the ground and we can all live in Autonomous Zones. We could call them Bantustans.

  59. bomag says:
    @Miro23
    @Mike_from_SGV


    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.
     
    The SJW's and MSM want a police/military crack down so that they can broadcast their victimhood.

    Trump isn't obliging - even if the cost is more mob rule and being perceived as weak.

    It's actually a do-nothing competition between the President, state and local authorities. All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression - the return of the Adolf Hitler.

    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos. They actually celebrate the mob rooting out Anglos and destroying their culture and symbols.

    Replies: @bomag, @Just another serf

    All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression – the return of the Adolf Hitler.

    If we are really this ruled by the MSM, then we are good and truly screwed.

    We’ve got an ersatz Kristallnacht rolling along, which highlights the maxim that Hitler was right: the winners of history are the ones that go Hitler on their enemies and get away with it.

  60. @Thoughts
    @Whiskey

    I know you guys don't like Whiskey

    But Blind Gossip has this as a major Blind

    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams

    Replies: @Charon, @Anon

    He won’t make it to the halfway point imho.

  61. I wonder what would happen if I were to scratch an MLK statue with my fingernail. Would the authorities stand by and allow *that*?

  62. @JimB
    So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?

    Replies: @bomag, @Charon, @Mike_from_SGV, @prime noticer

    Too much like work. Even just getting there.

  63. Have any statues of women been toppled. If not, why not?

  64. I hereby declare that all good people, and therefore those who support #BLM, must liquidate all of theit assets into cash, specifically “Benjamins”, and burn the image of that slaveholder immediately. Or, give them to me, for an environmentally safe method of disposal.

  65. @anon
    The tearing down of statues, starting with Lee's, angers me more than the looting, the arson, and the murders.
    It's a threat to me that I had better keep my mouth shut - don't speak, don't think.
    Incredible that mobs can do this all over the country with the support of the government. It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    Replies: @Charon, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Almost Missouri, @Prof. Woland

    It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.

    It’s also the opening stages of ethnic cleansing.

    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    I’m starting to wonder if the DNC is just the local CCP franchise.

  66. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    @Bill Jones
    Joe Sobran nailed this almost a quarter century ago:

    "Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself.
    Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared.
    The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don't grasp what it really means: humiliation.
    The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't conscious of it.
    And, superiority excites envy.
    Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities."
    Joseph Sobran, April 1997

    In a 1997 lecture, Joseph Sobran elucidated:

    The modern state has to police more and more of our lives, because it has set itself against the normal. It defines normal acquisition as greed, normal group preferences as bigotry, and normal morality as hate. Consequently it has to watch over us at all times to make sure we aren’t too assertive about our normality, while it caters to our abnormalities.

    Treason used to mean the subversion of the state. But the state itself now works the subversion of society. In other times, including Shakespeare’s, it has been understood that the state’s whole justification for existing is to support and protect normal life against the criminal, the savage, the perverse. Even tyrants never questioned this assumption.

    Replies: @anon215, @Altai

    It defines normal acquisition as greed.

    It defines greed as normal acquisition. And assumes any accumulation of wealth as being due to the creation of wealth.

    FTFY.

  67. @anon
    The tearing down of statues, starting with Lee's, angers me more than the looting, the arson, and the murders.
    It's a threat to me that I had better keep my mouth shut - don't speak, don't think.
    Incredible that mobs can do this all over the country with the support of the government. It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    Replies: @Charon, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Almost Missouri, @Prof. Woland

    Agree.

    Sometimes I don’t know if Steve is being disingenuous with his

    Even I didn’t see the cancellation of Ulysses S. Grant coming

    stuff.

    Steve, all of this—and more—was always coming. It’s always always been about hating whitey. That is the whole of wokeness. The rest is commentary.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  68. Seneca44 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:28 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    Tear down all the statues of everyone who might have said or done an unkind thing to a darker skinned person in the last four centuries–it won’t matter. The innumerate BLM and their ilk want to change attitudes, but this is not something simple like switching out a hard drive. Any police training mandated by our modern day inquisitors will be overshadowed by the first several weeks on a beat as the rookie cop can’t help but notice the overwhelming proportion of crimes committed by the black population. They can’t ask or demand that white people lift them up to some utopian equality. It is time for them to do the heavy lifting, even if it means the awful spectre of “acting white”.

  69. S says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:30 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Altai

    Their real offense is their fame: Their visages are carved upon the landscape at Mount Rushmore. That can be irritating to proud people whose ancestors didn’t contribute as much to America.
     
    The original effective starting date of history in America was Jamestown to 1776. The very long history of human settlement didn't count. (Though a lack of written records doesn't help, even if it existed, I doubt it would have been treated as 'American History' but 'Native American History')

    A new people, a new start point for history that coincides with their presence. The same thing has been happening in America since the great waves of immigration. Ellis Island schmaltz isn't just a source of sentimentality about immigration itself but an effective refocusing of history, the start of American history to the late 90th century. And now we're seeing the post 68 wave starting to focus the start of American history to the post-war period of it's great empire or maybe the civil rights period. (The great wave seems kinda racist when you think about it, all those white people helping to make American whiter than ever, cutting off freed black labour at the knees just when it was starting to make gains) Cartoons used to feature the revolutionary war or Jamestown, even into the late 90s. Now the ethnic and generational lag has ensured such topics seem weird and antiquated.

    Maybe the new Starbucks-people wave (I use the term for post 2000 immigrants to Western countries who live so apart from the natives socially and who find great succor in major international brands like Starbucks or Ikea and feel less comfortable in ordinary businesses) will start to look at everything before the total social unraveling of America as 'not America'.

    A kind of sense of this is seen in Hamilton, where as Steve notes, Hamilton has been totally transformed from a reactionary Scottish begrudger who had little time for Democracy to a 'vibrant' 'immigrant' who likes to rap in order to make the man who established the Federal Reserve the good guy or perhaps the post 68 American.

    The real threat is the attacks on George Washington. Washington and the founders were turned from real people into semi-mythical grand philosophers who created the American creed, this also made it easier for immigrants who had no roots to that time to accept him. Once you attack them (Particularly on the basis of them being real people, which is not how America sees them or what those statues represent), the connection of America to it's own past is made very weak. Once you attack them the already dangerously vague creed of American-ness is beyond definition. I don't think the protestors know what they did. It doesn't serve their interests.

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1273861696654729217

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1273862338764931072

    https://twitter.com/WillontheRadio/status/1274073262847340548

    Replies: @S

    I’d been wondering if they’d take this step with Washington. They’d already been going after ‘renegade’ elites, ie Southern Confederates, for some time.

    And now Grant too.

    Is the next step going to be digging up and displaying rotting corpses of ‘bad people’ as these sorts have done in 1930’s Spain, circa 1920 Russia, and during the 1960’s Chinese ‘cultural revolution’?

    • Replies: @Altai
    @S

    But doing it to Washington is more serious. Once you undo him, you undo America as a creed, as a proposition nation. You annihilate it's connect with it's past.

    The only place left to go is back to blood.

    Replies: @Corn

  70. Corn says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @Dave Pinsen
    @El Dato

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million? What % of cops are Trump supporters (scenes of local highway patrol cops taking selfies with Trump during his campaign stops were common)? What % of critical jobs like truck drivers are Trump supporters? How would blue cities fare if they went on strike in protest?

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Corn, @Ray Huffman

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    “Or the revolutionaries will push into red areas”

    Yup. Team Red is restraining itself because we’re fat and happy with our sportsball and video games and junk food. Feel we have too much to lose. But if the BLM (burning, looting, mayhem) crew leaves the blue cities and takes their show on the road to red suburbs and small towns, things get interesting.

    When it’s Red Whites losing their small businesses and homes to molotov cocktails and bricks, the much discussed, seldom seen backlash may begin.

  71. Dannyboy says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @syonredux

    Nearby statue of Ulysses S. Grant is also toppled. He was a slave owner too, before the Civil War. That’s three for three this night.
     
    Well, his wife's family owned slaves, but, to the best of my knowledge, Grant only owned one slave , whom he manumitted:

    In March 1859, Grant freed William by a manumission deed, potentially worth at least $1,000, when Grant needed the money.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant#Civilian_struggles,_slavery,_and_politics

    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance....

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dannyboy

    You’ll have to excuse me while I have a little chuckle over this one and Mr Lincoln as well. A good portion of the Conservicucks on the “Right” had no problem with the cancellation of Confederate history and even vocally supported it.

    Well I guess that didn’t buy them much time with the Red Brigades, now did it?

    lol

  72. @william munny
    Sherman is next, and ultimately, Lincoln.
    I man, what did they ever do for black people in this country? Nothing that excuses their being so late to endorse the idea of abolition. It looks like Coates fired the initial salvo against Sherman, way back in 2010, but it has not hit its mark. Yet. And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.

    Replies: @Bert, @David In TN, @S

    How long before Lowry, Williamson, French, etc, write pieces on “The Conservative Case for Canceling Grant, Lincoln, and Sherman.”

    • Agree: fish
    • LOL: JMcG
    • Replies: @BB753
    @David In TN

    How long before those hacks write pieces on “The Conservative Case for Black Lives Matter"?

  73. @william munny
    Sherman is next, and ultimately, Lincoln.
    I man, what did they ever do for black people in this country? Nothing that excuses their being so late to endorse the idea of abolition. It looks like Coates fired the initial salvo against Sherman, way back in 2010, but it has not hit its mark. Yet. And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.

    Replies: @Bert, @David In TN, @S

    And when people become more aware of what Lincoln said about black people, oh boy.

    Wait till they find out what Gandhi and Che Guevara said about Black people.

    Like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children.

  74. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT • 300 Words   
    @Thoughts
    @Whiskey

    I know you guys don't like Whiskey

    But Blind Gossip has this as a major Blind

    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams

    Replies: @Charon, @Anon

    Biden will step down halfway through his term to Stacey Abrams

    Doesn’t really matter. Starting in 2015 and getting more conspicuous each year, the permanent establishment, Deep State, controls America.

    The U.S. Presidency is a titular position. The FBI, State Department, Pentagon, CIA, et al., do what they want and don’t do what they don’t want to do. The President has no real power. The President wants to use elements of the military to pacify American cities and the SecDef and head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff say no. End of story. The President calls for removal of troops from Syria and the Pentagon generals says no, they’re staying. End of story except for the investigations and hearings into Trump’s recklessness in wanting to bring the troops home. And on and on.

    Even the U.S. Attorney has no real power. AG Barr designates Antifa a domestic terrorist group but then Wray and the FBI come out and say nope, they have no evidence of that, and the only real threat is white supremacist groups.

    [A]ccording to The Nation, which cited an internal FBI situation report, the bureau’s Washington, DC, field office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that took place that day.

    However, the FBI and other government agencies warn that far-right white supremacist groups will use the protests to incite violence and attack federal agents.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-no-intelligence-antifa-weekend-violence-george-floyd-protests-2020-6

    I kind of hope Trump loses in November so we can get on with inevitable unraveling of the empire and commence with the nasty infighting and bloodletting that will follow. I want to see the professional establishment conspirators destroyed by the coming leftist inquisition mobs. I want to see them toppled like statues. Being a NeverTrumper won’t be good enough for the angry mob.

  75. @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    If I were Trump, I'd station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Whiskey, @Dave Pinsen

    If I were Trump, I’d station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    I’d take Delta…I mean the Unit over those squiddie showboaters:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force

  76. @JimB
    So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?

    Replies: @bomag, @Charon, @Mike_from_SGV, @prime noticer

    It’s only a matter of time. I’d say later this year, or 2021 at the latest.

  77. BB753 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 1:57 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @syonredux
    And the Albert Pike statue comes down....

    Protesters topple statue of Confederate General Albert Pike in Washington, DC
    Protesters tore down the statue, which stood near Judiciary Square, and set it alight on Friday evening. The sculpture was erected in 1901 and was DC's only outdoor Confederate statue. Members of the DC Council have been trying to remove the statue of Pike since 1992.

     

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1274184130465390593


    https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1274180736346710016

    Replies: @BB753, @Gordo, @flyingtiger

    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!

    Although, Albert Pike, the author of Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, would ultimately approve of the current mayhem if it brings about the reign of Lucifer:

    “We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @BB753


    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!
     
    Don't worry. The Freemasons were just front men for the real masters, the Illuminati....

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/production.photos.funnyordie.com/p/media/199601ce31/MqfXkK9DR2a8uLzGJnMD_13040446_ml.jpg

    Replies: @BB753

  78. @David In TN
    @william munny

    How long before Lowry, Williamson, French, etc, write pieces on "The Conservative Case for Canceling Grant, Lincoln, and Sherman."

    Replies: @BB753

    How long before those hacks write pieces on “The Conservative Case for Black Lives Matter”?

  79. @The Alarmist
    @Dave Pinsen


    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?
     
    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump's position, I'd recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @tyrone

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    Even if they found enough warfighters they would need to find enough vibrants and women to maintain, troubleshoot, and repair their fancy gear.

    In an extended conflict they’d need enough to do design, development, and research.

    Such people exist in the same sense as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, unicorns, yeti, Nessie, etc.

  80. @syonredux
    And the Albert Pike statue comes down....

    Protesters topple statue of Confederate General Albert Pike in Washington, DC
    Protesters tore down the statue, which stood near Judiciary Square, and set it alight on Friday evening. The sculpture was erected in 1901 and was DC's only outdoor Confederate statue. Members of the DC Council have been trying to remove the statue of Pike since 1992.

     

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1274184130465390593


    https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1274180736346710016

    Replies: @BB753, @Gordo, @flyingtiger

    And the Albert Pike statue comes down….

    What will the 33rd Degree say about that?

  81. @Mike_from_SGV
    I wonder if media outlets like the New York Times or LA Times even report on this ongoing nationwide vandalism. I recently cancelled my subscriptions to both (part of an effort to disassociate from all leftist-captured institutions where possible) and I can't stand even looking at their home pages now. They probably approve of it.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of “peaceful protesters seek racial justice.” No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don’t even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a “second wave” of Covid. Good luck with that.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    Mr. Toad, Floyd's blood level of fentanyl would likely have led to respiratory arrest for somebody not tolerant to opioids (i.e. a non-user).

    As far as users, it's hard to know. The more opioids a person takes, the higher the amount needed to exert an effect. For some people, Floyd's level wouldn't relieve pain, cause a high, or depress respiration.

    One speculation was that Floyd swallowed a baggie as the cops approached, thus accidentally overdosing himself. A contrary one is that he was an addict, so this blood level was Business As Usual.

    Since he is a Saint, the media isn't pursuing loose ends that risk Narrative Fray.

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd's neck for five "I can't breathe" minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    It's not Monday morning quarterbacking to say that Floyd being a bad person doesn't justify the cop's action.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anon7, @Hypnotoad666

    , @res
    @Hypnotoad666


    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of “peaceful protesters seek racial justice.” No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.
     
    Hopefully Tucker Carlson will come through with video of some of the more gratuitous statue destruction.
    , @Stan
    @Hypnotoad666

    MSM is veering toward irrelevance. More people get their news online than from the MSM.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Hypnotoad666


    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a “second wave” of Covid. Good luck with that.
     
    Yes, they are pushing that hard - and right on cue.
  82. @The Alarmist
    @Dave Pinsen


    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million?
     
    One of the observations from 2016 was a very distinct divide in the military: Those most likely to support Trump were in the enlisted ranks and even into the company-grade officer ranks. Support tapered off as you looked at field-grade and you entered a zone of hostility when you got to general officer ranks.

    You might get a situation where the generals and colonels try to start a coup, but would have few actual warfighters to back them, except perhaps among minorities, and how long is that coup going to last?

    BTW, if I was in Trump's position, I'd recall some of the retired generals who have been disparaging him lately to active duty and ship their asses to Kabul and Baghdad to ride around in Humvees all day.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Sean, @The Wild Geese Howard, @tyrone

    If shit got real I would rely on the marine corps and the secret weapon: force recon ,as good as it gets.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @tyrone

    Interestingly, with regard to your point, the Corps is the whitest of the US services. Semper Fi !

  83. @syonredux
    And the Albert Pike statue comes down....

    Protesters topple statue of Confederate General Albert Pike in Washington, DC
    Protesters tore down the statue, which stood near Judiciary Square, and set it alight on Friday evening. The sculpture was erected in 1901 and was DC's only outdoor Confederate statue. Members of the DC Council have been trying to remove the statue of Pike since 1992.

     

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1274184130465390593


    https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1274180736346710016

    Replies: @BB753, @Gordo, @flyingtiger

    Albert Pike was a Confederate leader, slave owner, and a founder of the KKK. When they started this statue pulling started, you would think that he would have been among the first to be pulled down. He was also a Free Mason leader, whom I presume was protecting the statue. Alas, it seems that the Free Masons have lost power and a new foreign entity is ruling the land.

  84. Prediction for 2022 (at the latest):

    Anyone who has the surname “Lynch” will be forced to change it to placate the negrow overlords.

  85. @Reg Cæsar
    @syonredux


    Of course, hate-YT types are not known for their appreciation of nuance….

     

    CharlieBo313 has found a black "youth" named YT:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrUVfUbkng&t=58s

    Replies: @bomag

    LOL, good find.

    Cordial enough guys; bandwidth a bit low.

  86. @Veracitor
    This tearing down of statues is not a matter of simple hatred, but a fascinating expression of evolutionary psychology (sociobiology). Some have asked "why get so upset about old statues? We are not idol-worshippers." The answer is: breaking a statue directly harms the living people whose ancestors it represents.

    What is status for young people? It corresponds to mating desirability.

    Youth, strength, beauty, and intelligence are desirable in a mate. Wealth, good judgement, leadership skills, parenting ability, and resilience are also very desirable, but hard to judge in a young potential mate. Those things are, however, highly heritable.

    Rather than let youth and strength fade while waiting for wealth and wisdom and so-forth to ripen, one simply looks at the potential mate's ancestors and older relatives, then imputes their characteristics to the potential mate.

    Or to put that more simply, you want your kids to marry the descendants of successful people.

    All those statues represent the successful ancestors of today's high-status people. The status of young people depends for biological reasons on the status of their ancestors, and that status is signified and certified by the existence of those statues. Why else would anyone pay to erect them? The older the subject of a statue, the more people claim descent from him or her. Figures of sufficient antiquity and fame lend status to whole races of putative descendants.

    The statue-breakers are reducing the status of everyone who claims descent from the ancient worthies the statues represent. People looking for mates will discount candidates whose families are unable to protect the statues of their ancestors.

    Status is relative so each time some vandals destroy a statue they raise their own status by a fraction. By this means vandals improve their mating prospects: they undercut their rivals' desirability and thereby boost their own. As Steve pointed out a couple of weeks ago (link) Antifa tend to be quite ugly-- they are poor mating prospects. They will do anything, however wicked, to boost their mating desirability.

    In long-term effect, breaking the statues of someone's ancestors is like kicking a man in the balls or throwing acid in a woman's face. It is an attack on the victims' ability to reproduce. It is worse than robbing someone of money. Everybody knows that money comes and goes but family is forever. Attacking statues of racial ancestors is more than symbolic genocide, it is a subtle form of real genocide.

    All the statues of Confederate figures in America are there because Americans chose to end their Civil War with much less than the customary portion of rancor. After Lee surrendered with all his men at Appomattox, General Grant released them all on parole not to thereafter bear arms against the Union and bid his army to let them go quietly, saying “The Confederates were now our countrymen, and we did not want to exult over their downfall.” When the passions of the war had faded and the Confederate leaders had died off, America permitted their descendants to put up statues of them so Southerners could claim almost as much ancestral status as Northerners. It was a small price to pay for domestic harmony.

    The nihilists who lead the American BLM+Antifa Left wish to destroy what's left of the American people. Breaking all of their statues is a big step toward that. The complicity of nearly all American politicians proves that they are malevolent traitors. An attack like this-- not just some looting, but widespread symbolic genocide-- is so vicious that I fear it presages internecine warfare.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    This comment needs a Bravo! button for us to click on.

    Crikey I feel like pasting an American flag decal on my car.

  87. @Wido Incognitus
    Did you read Jamelle Bouie's latest opinion article in the NY Times? It is about how Black people freed themselves. What about White people fighting each other in the Civil War? What about White people proclaiming the Emancipation Proclamation? What about White people passing and ratifying the 13th Amendment? These things are dismissed as helping Black people who freed themselves.
    Obviously Black people were leading activists for their freedom and often ran away from bondage, but the point of his column is that White people on the right side like, in this case, Grant, were unimportant and can be canceled with impunity. It was always the Black man doing it for himself and always foiled by the White man. We wuz kangz. Y'all.

    Replies: @bomag, @AceDeuce

    With kneegarows, as it is with all chronic losers, the two greatest days in their pathetic, deluded, bloviating lives are yesterday and tomorrow. They’re just never worth a flying fk today.

  88. ic1000 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 3:36 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @Hypnotoad666
    @Mike_from_SGV

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of "peaceful protesters seek racial justice." No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don't even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven't heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a "second wave" of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @res, @Stan, @Mr. Anon

    > I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    Mr. Toad, Floyd’s blood level of fentanyl would likely have led to respiratory arrest for somebody not tolerant to opioids (i.e. a non-user).

    As far as users, it’s hard to know. The more opioids a person takes, the higher the amount needed to exert an effect. For some people, Floyd’s level wouldn’t relieve pain, cause a high, or depress respiration.

    One speculation was that Floyd swallowed a baggie as the cops approached, thus accidentally overdosing himself. A contrary one is that he was an addict, so this blood level was Business As Usual.

    Since he is a Saint, the media isn’t pursuing loose ends that risk Narrative Fray.

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for five “I can’t breathe” minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    It’s not Monday morning quarterbacking to say that Floyd being a bad person doesn’t justify the cop’s action.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @ic1000

    "Floyd being a bad person doesn't justify the cop's action"

    True. Killer cops are a threat to every citizen. But Floyd in death has become Saint Floyd. And In His Holy Name (and say His Name and the names of the other Sacred Bodies!) a lot of hurt and misery and destruction has been wreaked. Perhaps in twenty years we will be able to tear down one of the many statues of the bulboused nose saint that will no doubt be erected across the land whilst the local authorities look on and do doodly-squat.

    , @Anon7
    @ic1000

    Have you seen this article in Medium?


    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

    The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS.
     

    Replies: @ic1000, @Hypnotoad666

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @ic1000


    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for five “I can’t breathe” minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.
     
    Personally, I think Occam's razor favors the overdose hypothesis. If someone has a more than lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, and then dies from the exact symptoms of a fentanyl overdose, that may be the "simple explanation."

    Heavy-using addicts overdose all the time, even though they may have built up a tolerance. At the very least it's a likely scenario. Yet, it can't even be discussed in public. Instead, everyone is required to ritually recite that it was an obvious "murder" as the entry price for even opining on the riots or whatever.

    I just find this suppression of obvious facts and reasonable discussion so disturbing.

    Replies: @ic1000

  89. conatus says:
    June 20, 2020 at 3:39 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    In the documentary on Grant on Netflix, Grant manumitted the one slave he owned, courtesy of his wife’s family. His own family were ardent abolitionists. so when Grant, down on his luck and selling firewood to live, decided to free his one slave, Grant was advised the slave was worth 1000 bucks yet Grant still insisted on freeing him. In the documentary you had Ta-Nehisi Coates admiring Grant! It was quite a sacrifice! He did not wait and free his slave after his death, Grant sacrificed basically a new car nowadays, when he was poor, for his own ideological beliefs.
    And what does he get in Stupid America?His memory torn down by retardo jacobins.
    So here we are in Idiocracy.

  90. I thought Grant would be spared by the woke mob because Ta-Nahisi Coates likes the guy. But, he’s white and owned a slave for a short while before freeing him, so no dice. Crushing the Confederacy can’t erase that sin, either. Dismantling the KKK during his presidency offers no protection. Grant was pretty “woke” for his time but it doesn’t matter. Basically, if you are white and have ever harmed a black person anywhere for whatever reason, you must be destroyed and cast out from history. Historical context is irrelevant.

    The destruction of his statue is particularly upsetting to me. I like studying Civil War history and I have a lot of respect for Grant. His magnanimity towards the South at Appomattox epitomizes his character. I highly recommend reading his memoirs which, for 19th century standards, are very readable. Chernow’s recent biography of him is very good, too. Could Grant be saved if there was a hip hop musical devoted to him? Is that what it takes?

  91. The headline just needs to say, “and then the mob came for the past…and toppled all of history.”

  92. @yanouz
    @Mike_from_SGV

    He may sense how much this destruction is pissing people off. Even with semi-competent like Trump on the ticket, people who are rightly fearful will go with their gut and vote for the Republican.

    Sideshow Bob put it best, though with the expected Simpsons slant: "You need me, Springfield. Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this, to save you from yourselves. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a city to run."

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election.

    All he has to do is key out an occasional tweet blasting the mayors and governors for doing nothing.

    The average American suburban middle class white (particularly women) are very complacent.

    Trump wants them angry–and expressing their anger by turning out to vote for him.

    The Democrats are mice going for the leftist cheese–the trap will spring in the fall.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Justvisiting

    "I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election."

    That isn't how it works. When things are going badly people tend to blame the guy in charge. And with some reason, if he can't do anything about it now why would he be able to do anything about it if and when he is re-elected?

    , @Keypusher
    @Justvisiting

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    It is impossible to underestimate Trump. It is all too common (though, thankfully, becoming rarer) for idiots like you to try to pretend that he is something other than the biggest buffoon in our nation’s history.

    It’s over. Stop being stupid.

  93. Gordo says:
    June 20, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Thoughts
    Scenario 1:

    Deep in the black psyche they have come to realize that they play 0 part in the future of the United States

    It's a tough pill to swallow

    Their physical labor is no longer needed, as Hispanics can do it better and cheaper.

    The future for black Americans is almost chillingly bleak

    This is Black Custard's last stand before they get corralled onto the reservations, not by whites in particular, but by everyone else

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Scenario 2:

    Flip side...20 years of African Immigration (thanks Obama, Bush and the lot!) has led to the creation of a wee bit more intelligent African African American (not descended from slaves, but slave-owners themselves) with the wonderful African Ego of Never-Ending Supremacy

    And they really believe that they are going to take over and hold the whip over all us whites as they cream dreamed for so many hundreds of years

    Unfortunately the black ego is completely irrational and this will backfire and everything from Jewish Real Estate plans to resettling in the barren wastelands of middle America will happen as so expertly laid out by iSteve commentators

    Leading to a chillingly bleak future

    This isn't South Africa, and I can't be the only white person who is muttering under their breath 'I will NEVER speak/interact with a black person in any meaningful way again' (which actually is really heartbreaking for the few blacks with good hearts)

    Can't make up my mind as to which one it is

    There's a third option...that these guys get the whip hand and we have Communism 2.0...but Aztecs and Asians would be so much more effective at corralling whites into concentration camps

    Replies: @Gordo

    This isn’t South Africa, and I can’t be the only white person who is muttering under their breath ‘I will NEVER speak/interact with a black person in any meaningful way again’ (which actually is really heartbreaking for the few blacks with good hearts)

    Yes this has been rather a polarising few weeks.

    What they don’t seem to have worked out is that when you start political violence you new quite know whose body will end up in the Landwehr Canal.

  94. Ray P says:
    June 20, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    It could be any of the four Mount Rushmore presidents: George Washington (slave owner), Teddy Roosevelt (immigration assimilationist), or Abraham Lincoln (not sufficiently anti-Southern at the end of his life: “with malice toward none” sounds racist today when malice is demanded).

    Their real offense is their fame: Their visages are carved upon the landscape at Mount Rushmore. That can be irritating to proud people whose ancestors didn’t contribute as much to America.

    Victory over the alien invaders by means of old cowboy songs:

    The residents of old folks’ homes have suffered a lot lately. Time for vengeance?

  95. @Miro23
    @Mike_from_SGV


    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.
     
    The SJW's and MSM want a police/military crack down so that they can broadcast their victimhood.

    Trump isn't obliging - even if the cost is more mob rule and being perceived as weak.

    It's actually a do-nothing competition between the President, state and local authorities. All of them know that any state action against this mob will be highlighted by the MSM as White Elite Oppression - the return of the Adolf Hitler.

    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos. They actually celebrate the mob rooting out Anglos and destroying their culture and symbols.

    Replies: @bomag, @Just another serf

    So, this is what you get when you have a Jewish elite hostile to Anglos

    I can see nothing that will benefit Jews in this present trajectory. Not the upcoming irreversible economic collapse. Not the collapse of any recognizable law and order. Millions of Jews did not rush into black controlled South Africa for the new opportunities available once that nation was torn apart.

  96. Barnard says:
    June 20, 2020 at 4:46 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Altai
    And the best Tweet from that guys thread.

    https://twitter.com/jrivanob/status/1274190103166910465

    Sweetest moment? Most depressing moment? Most hilarious moment? You decide.

    Replies: @Barnard

    How long until Pelosi holds a vote on a bill to replace The Star Spangled Banner? Given his role in the American Colonization Society, I am surprised they hadn’t come after Francis Scott Key already. It is somewhat surprising the ACS has come up more often in this festival of hate. Maybe the people organizing all this don’t like Liberians.

  97. @Bert

    …..Thomas Jefferson. Sure, he wasn’t a redneck and he founded the modern Democratic Party, but he was a Southerner so that makes him practically Trump. He was a slave owner and there’s the whole rapist-of-a-black-body thing.
     
    When will the HBD-realists confront the likelihood that rape of female slaves is largely mythical. Knowing that human females of all races display hypergamic behavior, is it not likely that many slaves welcomed the prospect of having a mulatto child? An uncle of mine was an extremely handsome and dynamic white man. Late in his life we were talking and he told me that I could have had a mulatto cousin if he had not practiced his Christian principles. He was visiting a friend's farm in the 1940's and was looking for something in the barn when a black woman engaged him in conversation and tried to pull him down on top of her. He successfully resisted.

    How much slave rape is plausible?

    Replies: @Bert, @kihowi, @Stan d Mute

    How much slave rape is plausible?

    The key to understanding this, as with pretty much the entire “peculiar institution” is to understand the economics.

    A mulatto was worth considerably more than a negro. A quadroon or octoroon even more. So I’d expect there was a lot of miscegenation simply due to the financial incentives.

    Presumably then as now, there was a dearth of white men willing to perform the job of inseminating negroes, and there may have been a special niche for the rare white willing to do the deed as a hired contractor. Obviously we would never be told that white contractors would be paid by slave owners to produce mulattoes due to the fragility of our negro females today. But isn’t that the way it always works when there’s money to be made doing a disgusting job (think septic tank cleaning today)?

  98. Whiskey says: • Website
    June 20, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    If I were Trump, I'd station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Whiskey, @Dave Pinsen

    Wouldn’t do much. Against a major coup attempt Seals would be a speed bump.
    A coup is very likely and would be easy to pull off. Soldiers and cops obey. No matter who is in charge.

    Truckers who don’t deliver to Blue Cities are easily replaced.

    Trump and us need a war. A big one with China that we lose and they start. So he can replace everyone above captain with his people. And White men are needed.

  99. @Wilkey

    It’s almost as if The Mob doesn’t hate Confederates, so much as they hate whites
     
    It isn't just the loud-mouthed extremists. I have a few white, liberal "friends" who like to play themselves off as thoughtful and moderate who advocate for removing Confederate statues and memorials. Not one of them has said a damn thing against the recent destruction of the non-Confederate statues. Destruction of white culture has always been the intention. I have always assumed that was their real goal, but now it is obvious.

    Where are Democratic politicians on all of this? Has a single damn one of them said anything against the way these statues are being removed, or about the non-Confederate statues that have been vandalized or demolished?

    Silence implies consent. And Dem politicians are consenting to destruction of our culture and to rule by the mob.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Destruction of white culture has always been the intention. I have always assumed that was their real goal, but now it is obvious.

    When are they coming for the museums?

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Stan d Mute

    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

  100. So when are they coming for Lewis and Clark? Lewis brought his slave York on the trip, in addition to his dog Seaman. There’s a nice statue on the St Louis riverfront. Is it still standing??

  101. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    Trump is finished. You’re right.

    He’ll do worse than McCain, and lose Arizona and Georgia. The future is ugly. But sometimes things must be burned down in order to rebuild. Let’s see.

    Canada was done long ago, our immigration rate is something like triple the USA’s. The only party who wanted to slightly reduce immigration got 2% of the vote.

  102. “Jefferson makes people in power today feel inadequate”

    Inadequacy is the unspoken element of Black Rage. white progressives and their Black handlers would think this a racist notion; and that’s proof of its truth. We are all inadequate to some degree, but compensate with other qualities. My brain is average and marinated in THC, but physically I’m a god; a young Heinrich Himmler.

  103. @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    If I were Trump, I'd station the Friends of Tiger Woods in Washington:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-secret-history-of-tiger-woods-and-the-navy-seals/

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Whiskey, @Dave Pinsen

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dave Pinsen

    Maybe Eddie Gallagher has found work in the private sector. That's where Blumpft! needs to look for allies to protect his orange butt because everything Federal is compromised; including DOD.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  104. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    Well, I wouldn’t put any money on your being wrong. God help us.

  105. It’s Phoenicians vs. Founding Fathers.

    In other words, “what did the Romans ever do for us?”

  106. Tikkun olam! After the shock troops (bleks) and useful idiots (antifa) are swept away after the Revolution, I GUARANTEE American history (aka Racism!) will be entirely replaced by the history of Israel and the Diaspora. It will slot in nicely with the existing Bibolatry, and the modern day descendants of the Puritans, Mormons and Evangelicals will be delighted.

  107. @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    Mr. Toad, Floyd's blood level of fentanyl would likely have led to respiratory arrest for somebody not tolerant to opioids (i.e. a non-user).

    As far as users, it's hard to know. The more opioids a person takes, the higher the amount needed to exert an effect. For some people, Floyd's level wouldn't relieve pain, cause a high, or depress respiration.

    One speculation was that Floyd swallowed a baggie as the cops approached, thus accidentally overdosing himself. A contrary one is that he was an addict, so this blood level was Business As Usual.

    Since he is a Saint, the media isn't pursuing loose ends that risk Narrative Fray.

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd's neck for five "I can't breathe" minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    It's not Monday morning quarterbacking to say that Floyd being a bad person doesn't justify the cop's action.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anon7, @Hypnotoad666

    “Floyd being a bad person doesn’t justify the cop’s action”

    True. Killer cops are a threat to every citizen. But Floyd in death has become Saint Floyd. And In His Holy Name (and say His Name and the names of the other Sacred Bodies!) a lot of hurt and misery and destruction has been wreaked. Perhaps in twenty years we will be able to tear down one of the many statues of the bulboused nose saint that will no doubt be erected across the land whilst the local authorities look on and do doodly-squat.

    • Agree: ic1000
  108. @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1130030310417084416?s=21

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    Maybe Eddie Gallagher has found work in the private sector. That’s where Blumpft! needs to look for allies to protect his orange butt because everything Federal is compromised; including DOD.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @SunBakedSuburb


    Maybe Eddie Gallagher has found work in the private sector. That’s where Blumpft! needs to look for allies to protect his orange butt because everything Federal is compromised; including DOD.
     
    Meet Erik Prince....

    ....brother of Betsy de Vos, libertarian, Buchanan for President supporter, and founder of the private military company formerly known as Blackwater:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince
  109. res says:
    June 20, 2020 at 6:31 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Hypnotoad666
    @Mike_from_SGV

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of "peaceful protesters seek racial justice." No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don't even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven't heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a "second wave" of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @res, @Stan, @Mr. Anon

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of “peaceful protesters seek racial justice.” No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    Hopefully Tucker Carlson will come through with video of some of the more gratuitous statue destruction.

  110. Grant also started kicking out all the jews in the 1860s. something they never tell you about. like Longshanks kicking them out.

    incredible how so many great men throughout the ages hated jews. i wonder why. it’s so strange how they all came down with the same mysterious, irrational disease.

    almost all “serious” HBD academics and scholars seem to have no idea about this stuff at all, which now makes me question how serious are they. they can talk about thousands of years of selection, natural history, crops, animals, the breeder’s equation, but they’ve overlooked this, probably one of the most important factors in in explaining and understanding human history. something that recurs over and over for 2000 years at least.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @prime noticer

    As I said above, it will soon reveal itself as a Judaisizing movement. "But what did Grant do? Didn't he fight to free the slaves?" Yes, BUT he kicked out the Jews, so out he goes.

    , @anon
    @prime noticer

    Longshanks is probably the most important King in all of Brittish history. His legacy is downplayed for obvious reasons -- because he noticed certain people incorrigibly engage in financial fraud and predatory lending -- much in the same way, the writers of the Magna Carta, 60 years earlier, called out the same ethnicity for predatory lending to widows. Maybe this explains their hatred of WASP's? Just a guess.

    Grant's noticing about Jewish speculators following the Union army are almost identical to a chapter in [MOST_EVIL_BOOK_IN_HISTORY] written by [MOST_EVIL_MAN_IN_HISTORY], who noticed the German military supply chains were manned overwhelmingly by a certain ethnicity, who directed orders to factories by said ethnicity. The noticing echos through the generations. All just a coincidence, I'm sure.

    Not sure if Steve refuses to notice, or if he thinks noticing is in bad taste, or if it is self-preservation, but nonetheless, the noticing goes on.

  111. Kyle says:
    June 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm GMT • 400 Words   

    Wilmington removed the Ceasar Rodney statue from Rodney Square.
    If you don’t know who Ceasar Rodney is, he was a founding father of the United Sates, and a Delaware state assemblyman. From Wikipedia.

    Several times he served as Speaker, including the momentous day of June 15, 1776 when “with Rodney in the chair and Thomas McKean leading the debate on the floor,” the Assembly of Delaware voted to sever all ties with the British Parliament and King.[11]

    Delaware was the first state to sign the constitution in 1787, but a lot of people don’t know it was also the first state to declare independence from England in 1776. More famously Ceasar Rodney cast a deciding vote in the continental congress to adopt the Declaration of Independence. On the night of July 1st 1776 Rodney received a message from Thomas McCain that he and George Read were opposed on the question of independence. Ceasar Rodney was Delaware’s third delegate to the congress. He rode 70 miles through the night to cast his vote for independence. America might not exist had he not done that. He’s basically like Paul Revere but cooler and more historically significant. The statue of Caesar Rodney that formerly occupied Rodney square commemorates his historic ride. You may have that statue in your pocket right now. Our leaders are weak minded cowards. I didn’t care when the mob came for Robert E Lee, who was a traitor to America. I didn’t care when they came for Columbus, who never actually set foot in the United Sates. But when the mob came for Caesar Rodney and our weak politicians capitulated, that finally triggered me. I will not stand for this, they are attacking me and my history personally. They are trying to erase a great man, a founding father responsible for America’s very existence. This is like Philadelphia canceling Ben Franklin, Boston Canceling John Adams, or Baltimore canceling Francis Scott Key (I’m not surprised that San Francisco canceled him but I do have thoughts on that as well.). We can’t let these losers and low lives erase our history. It’s past time to do something about it.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Kyle

    "This is like Philadelphia canceling Ben Franklin, Boston Canceling John Adams, or Baltimore canceling Francis Scott Key "

    Shhh. Don't give the children ideas!

  112. @JimB
    So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?

    Replies: @bomag, @Charon, @Mike_from_SGV, @prime noticer

    “So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?”

    not until Biden is President. with Trump in office, at least he will have national monuments under federal protection.

    but Rushmore is probably going, that’s true. i plan to get out there this summer. it likely won’t be there anymore by 2030 or so.

    people are underestimating what a huge effect Biden’s Vice President is going to have. she’s going to be an african woman, and she’s going to be President herself after Biden. things will change fast when she’s in charge.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @prime noticer


    people are underestimating what a huge effect Biden’s Vice President is going to have. she’s going to be an african woman, and she’s going to be President herself after Biden. things will change fast when she’s in charge.
     
    Obama accomplished next to nothing except make the rich richer and fill up morgues with black bodies.
  113. Anon7 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 7:14 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    Mr. Toad, Floyd's blood level of fentanyl would likely have led to respiratory arrest for somebody not tolerant to opioids (i.e. a non-user).

    As far as users, it's hard to know. The more opioids a person takes, the higher the amount needed to exert an effect. For some people, Floyd's level wouldn't relieve pain, cause a high, or depress respiration.

    One speculation was that Floyd swallowed a baggie as the cops approached, thus accidentally overdosing himself. A contrary one is that he was an addict, so this blood level was Business As Usual.

    Since he is a Saint, the media isn't pursuing loose ends that risk Narrative Fray.

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd's neck for five "I can't breathe" minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    It's not Monday morning quarterbacking to say that Floyd being a bad person doesn't justify the cop's action.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anon7, @Hypnotoad666

    Have you seen this article in Medium?

    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

    The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS.

    • Thanks: ic1000, Hypnotoad666
    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Anon7

    More on "Excited Deliriun Syndrome" from the sidebar of unz.com (copy-paste of a comment misposted earlier today).

    "Or Did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose? Fatal Fentanyl: A Forensic Analysis", by John-Paul Leonard, June 16, 2020.

    A lengthy and sensible (AFAICT) analysis of the role of fentanyl in Floyd’s death, followed by a discussion of the role of cocaine in the 2016 case of Tony Timpa. Timpa being white, his death in police custody was met with a collective shrug.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Anon7


    Have you seen this article in Medium?

    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge
     

     
    Absolutely excellent article! And, just to prove my original comment about the lying MSM, here's what they noted about the New York Time's "analysis:"

    A note on the analysis made by the New York Times
    The NYT published a “play by play” analysis on YouTube, analyzing how George Floyd died. They omit important information in their analysis.
    The NYT shows Floyd being cuffed behind his back, but then cut the footage so that you do not see the struggle that occurred while he was being cuffed.
    The NYT mentions complaints made against the officers. However, the NYT does not mention that only one of these complaints was found to have merit against Chauvin, when he asked a woman who was speeding 10 MPH over the limit to step out of her car. The NYT omits the average number of complaints against officers, which is approximately one every 3 years. The NYT also omits that Chauvin obtained two medals of valor, which was ironically reported by the NYT elsewhere.
    The NYT says “we don’t know why” they pulled Floyd out of the car. This is misleading, as we know they were unable to keep him detained in the squad car.
    The NYT omitted that Floyd was able to lift up his head and neck.
    The NYT omitted — completely — that the officers believed he was suffering from ExDS. (This is not a joke. The NYT omitted the linchpin of the case.)
    The NYT ignores his history of drug use, his two heart conditions, as well as the fentanyl found in his system.
     
  114. @Hypnotoad666
    @Mike_from_SGV

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of "peaceful protesters seek racial justice." No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don't even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven't heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a "second wave" of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @res, @Stan, @Mr. Anon

    MSM is veering toward irrelevance. More people get their news online than from the MSM.

  115. Mr. Anon says:
    June 20, 2020 at 7:18 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    I don’t understand why Trump isn’t making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Because Trump is a narcissist and a moron. Bolton is guilty of criticizing Donald Trump, a much greater crime in Trump’s eyes than attacking our civilization and destroying our history.

  116. @Hypnotoad666
    @Mike_from_SGV

    The MSM has a complete blackout on any information that would disrupt the narrative of "peaceful protesters seek racial justice." No toppled statue of George Washington covered with a burning American flag is going to be allowed as news.

    At this point they own the information flow so thoroughly that they don't even bother to spin inconvenient facts. They just block them out entirely. Then the social media platforms play Whack-a-Mole to keep the facts from getting organically shared on the internet.

    As just one example, I haven't heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a "second wave" of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @ic1000, @res, @Stan, @Mr. Anon

    In any event, the new coordinated narrative is trying to restart hysteria over a “second wave” of Covid. Good luck with that.

    Yes, they are pushing that hard – and right on cue.

  117. Then the mob came for you………..white man.

  118. From wiki:

    On December 17, 1862, Grant issued a controversial General Order No. 11, expelling “Jews, as a class”, from his Union Army military district.

    Some of USG’s best (NYC) friends were Jewish.

  119. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    June 20, 2020 at 7:52 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    Grant and Sherman have more to do with freeing the slaves than anybody not named Abraham Lincoln. Its kinda ridiculous what we are seeing isn’t it? Tuggin’ down a statue of Washington, and mocking Jefferson is pretty much saying you hate America. If we replace America with the world’s first antiracist state, they’d have to institute a draft because nobody would fight for something that doesn’t belong to anyone. We would have to pass a ton of anti-corruption and nepotism laws also because everybody would be looking out for themselves in society, rarely caring about others.

  120. @Dave Pinsen
    @El Dato

    A coup against Trump would seem kind of risky. How many armed military-aged men (whether in the military or not) are Trump supporters, 5 or 10 million? What % of cops are Trump supporters (scenes of local highway patrol cops taking selfies with Trump during his campaign stops were common)? What % of critical jobs like truck drivers are Trump supporters? How would blue cities fare if they went on strike in protest?

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Corn, @Ray Huffman

    The cultural revolutionaries are winning now because no one is fighting back. I wouldn’t extrapolate that situation out indefinitely. Trump supporters are largely restraining themselves because they’re waiting for him to act and the revolution has been mostly confined to blue cities. At some point it seems likely Trump will act, or the revolutionaries will push into red areas. Either way, the odds ought to be against the revolutionaries.

    Exactly. The cops exist to protect them from us, not the other way around, and no one who has thought seriously about the matter believes otherwise. They think they’re pushing around sheep, but they’re really baiting bears.

    Several times over the course of a week, columns of these punks marched down a side street right past my apartment building where I was standing on a fourth floor balcony watching. To give an idea of how close I was, if I had been standing on that spot the ground floor, I would have been literally 20 feet away from them. I remember thinking how easy it would be for me to walk just 75 feet back to my apartment, retrieve my 590A1 Persuader, and take out at least a dozen of them from that vantage–it was ideal shotgun range.

    The establishment has badly bungled its plan by springing this crap on us before getting us disarmed.

  121. Jack D says:
    June 20, 2020 at 8:20 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    Was did Ulysses S. Grant ever do for black people anyway?

    Grant has this massive tomb thing up in Harlem. Clearly it has to go. Toss his bones out. Make it into a shelter for homeless blacks. Knock it down, put up (more) projects.

    I think that the kids who stabbed the Barnard girl lived in those projects. We need more kids like them and for the police to let those kids go. They didn’t do nuffin.

    I think it’s like the French Revolution or the Paris Commune. People have to get this out of their system. Then after it all goes horribly wrong their names will be anathema. Just pray that it doesn’t take 70 years like in the Soviet Union.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  122. @tyrone
    @The Alarmist

    If shit got real I would rely on the marine corps and the secret weapon: force recon ,as good as it gets.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Interestingly, with regard to your point, the Corps is the whitest of the US services. Semper Fi !

  123. @prime noticer
    Grant also started kicking out all the jews in the 1860s. something they never tell you about. like Longshanks kicking them out.

    incredible how so many great men throughout the ages hated jews. i wonder why. it's so strange how they all came down with the same mysterious, irrational disease.

    almost all "serious" HBD academics and scholars seem to have no idea about this stuff at all, which now makes me question how serious are they. they can talk about thousands of years of selection, natural history, crops, animals, the breeder's equation, but they've overlooked this, probably one of the most important factors in in explaining and understanding human history. something that recurs over and over for 2000 years at least.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @anon

    As I said above, it will soon reveal itself as a Judaisizing movement. “But what did Grant do? Didn’t he fight to free the slaves?” Yes, BUT he kicked out the Jews, so out he goes.

  124. @Kyle
    Wilmington removed the Ceasar Rodney statue from Rodney Square.
    If you don’t know who Ceasar Rodney is, he was a founding father of the United Sates, and a Delaware state assemblyman. From Wikipedia.

    Several times he served as Speaker, including the momentous day of June 15, 1776 when "with Rodney in the chair and Thomas McKean leading the debate on the floor," the Assembly of Delaware voted to sever all ties with the British Parliament and King.[11]
     
    Delaware was the first state to sign the constitution in 1787, but a lot of people don’t know it was also the first state to declare independence from England in 1776. More famously Ceasar Rodney cast a deciding vote in the continental congress to adopt the Declaration of Independence. On the night of July 1st 1776 Rodney received a message from Thomas McCain that he and George Read were opposed on the question of independence. Ceasar Rodney was Delaware’s third delegate to the congress. He rode 70 miles through the night to cast his vote for independence. America might not exist had he not done that. He’s basically like Paul Revere but cooler and more historically significant. The statue of Caesar Rodney that formerly occupied Rodney square commemorates his historic ride. You may have that statue in your pocket right now.
    https://www.littletoncoin.com/wcsstore/LCC/images/catalog/646x1000/4373-wc.jpg
    Our leaders are weak minded cowards. I didn’t care when the mob came for Robert E Lee, who was a traitor to America. I didn’t care when they came for Columbus, who never actually set foot in the United Sates. But when the mob came for Caesar Rodney and our weak politicians capitulated, that finally triggered me. I will not stand for this, they are attacking me and my history personally. They are trying to erase a great man, a founding father responsible for America’s very existence. This is like Philadelphia canceling Ben Franklin, Boston Canceling John Adams, or Baltimore canceling Francis Scott Key (I’m not surprised that San Francisco canceled him but I do have thoughts on that as well.). We can’t let these losers and low lives erase our history. It’s past time to do something about it.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “This is like Philadelphia canceling Ben Franklin, Boston Canceling John Adams, or Baltimore canceling Francis Scott Key ”

    Shhh. Don’t give the children ideas!

  125. Anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    June 20, 2020 at 8:33 pm GMT • 300 Words   
    @Mike_from_SGV
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    I don't understand why Trump isn't making a huge deal of this, every day, instead of spending time tweeting insults at Bolton and CNN etc. Maybe he will.

    Replies: @Bert, @Miro23, @yanouz, @Mr. Anon, @Anon

    Trump is simply outraged that a guy he hired betrayed him. Trump did Bolton a big favor by giving Bolton a second chance at a government job after being out of office, but Bolton still became a creepy turncoat. Bolton would not obey orders, and didn’t even have his book vetted for state secrets. The guy’s just a snotty, juvenile jerk.

    Trump is getting very tired of having all these officials he either hired or let stay in their jobs be disloyal to their boss. They’re not even keeping their mouths shut and letting things be. They’re actively plotting against him.

    Trump thought it would a good idea to hire from the talent pool of people who had been in high-level government jobs for many years because they had experience and knew their jobs. He didn’t realize you can’t trust government employees who are Baby Boomers. Government employees who belonged to the Greatest Generation really were dedicated to public service. Many of them were ex-military from World War II, and they had acquired some sense of honor and integrity from their military service. Government employees hired from the draft-dodging Baby Boomers are a childish, petulant, spiteful, grudge-holding set of weasels. They all act like court eunuchs in a harem, scheming away because that’s what small-minded, petty people do. They act like they’re emasculated and have no sense of honor.

    Trump needs to hire a lot more from the military, and not the self-serving Obama-promoted military, either. Next term, Trump needs to make a total clean sweep of all the political Obama-era hires if he wants a smoother term of office. They need to be gone from both the military and the government.

    States do not survive dishonorable servants. They must be honorable, otherwise you get a third-world government. Your employees must have a track record of honorable behavior before they’re hired if you want to be able to trust them.

  126. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dave Pinsen

    Maybe Eddie Gallagher has found work in the private sector. That's where Blumpft! needs to look for allies to protect his orange butt because everything Federal is compromised; including DOD.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Maybe Eddie Gallagher has found work in the private sector. That’s where Blumpft! needs to look for allies to protect his orange butt because everything Federal is compromised; including DOD.

    Meet Erik Prince….

    ….brother of Betsy de Vos, libertarian, Buchanan for President supporter, and founder of the private military company formerly known as Blackwater:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince

  127. Grant has this massive tomb thing up in Harlem.

    I’ve always wondered who was buried in there.

  128. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:
    @S
    @Altai

    I'd been wondering if they'd take this step with Washington. They'd already been going after 'renegade' elites, ie Southern Confederates, for some time.

    And now Grant too.

    Is the next step going to be digging up and displaying rotting corpses of 'bad people' as these sorts have done in 1930's Spain, circa 1920 Russia, and during the 1960's Chinese 'cultural revolution'?

    Replies: @Altai

    But doing it to Washington is more serious. Once you undo him, you undo America as a creed, as a proposition nation. You annihilate it’s connect with it’s past.

    The only place left to go is back to blood.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Altai


    With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.

    This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.

    -John Jay
     
    Maybe we never should have moved beyond blood.
  129. syonredux says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:04 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @BB753
    @syonredux

    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!

    Although, Albert Pike, the author of Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, would ultimately approve of the current mayhem if it brings about the reign of Lucifer:


    "We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

    Replies: @syonredux

    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!

    Don’t worry. The Freemasons were just front men for the real masters, the Illuminati….

    • Replies: @BB753
    @syonredux

    I'll tell you who's calling the shots now: The Council of Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Comission, and some lodge we've never probably heard of.

  130. @Daniel H
    Ben Franklin owned slaves too. Can he be spared?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    One, I believe.

  131. @Bert
    @Bill P

    In Birmingham, Alabama, the exodus of whites began in the 1940's with the establishment of the suburbs of Mountain Brook and Homewood. In the 1950's those towns grew substantially, and Vestavia Hills and Hoover were established farther out. During the 1980's suburbs were extended to Shelby County yet farther from Birmingham. By that time all whites who could afford to had left Birmingham. This link shows almost the current almost total racial separation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama#/media/File:Race_and_ethnicity_2010-_Birmingham_(5559862755).png

    I believe the same chronology applies to most Southern cities.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    In Houston when the taxpayers moved away from the schools they annexed the suburbs into the city limits as fast as they could. In New Orleans the north shore of Lake Ponchartrain is referred to as the White Shore by many of the black folk in the city.

  132. ic1000 says:
    June 20, 2020 at 9:48 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Anon7
    @ic1000

    Have you seen this article in Medium?


    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

    The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS.
     

    Replies: @ic1000, @Hypnotoad666

    More on “Excited Deliriun Syndrome” from the sidebar of unz.com (copy-paste of a comment misposted earlier today).

    “Or Did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose? Fatal Fentanyl: A Forensic Analysis”, by John-Paul Leonard, June 16, 2020.

    A lengthy and sensible (AFAICT) analysis of the role of fentanyl in Floyd’s death, followed by a discussion of the role of cocaine in the 2016 case of Tony Timpa. Timpa being white, his death in police custody was met with a collective shrug.

  133. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    Trump will be roasted on a open fire in November, and Republicans will be in no mood to pardon turkeys at Thanksgiving, but I think you are a bit too pessimistic about the future. President Demings will turn the nation into even more of a police state, which you will like.

  134. @Stan d Mute
    @Wilkey


    Destruction of white culture has always been the intention. I have always assumed that was their real goal, but now it is obvious.
     
    When are they coming for the museums?

    Replies: @David In TN

    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @David In TN


    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.
     
    So the museums are safe then in your opinion?

    Replies: @David In TN

  135. @Justvisiting
    @yanouz

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election.

    All he has to do is key out an occasional tweet blasting the mayors and governors for doing nothing.

    The average American suburban middle class white (particularly women) are very complacent.

    Trump wants them angry--and expressing their anger by turning out to vote for him.

    The Democrats are mice going for the leftist cheese--the trap will spring in the fall.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Keypusher

    “I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election.”

    That isn’t how it works. When things are going badly people tend to blame the guy in charge. And with some reason, if he can’t do anything about it now why would he be able to do anything about it if and when he is re-elected?

  136. @syonredux
    @BB753


    Well, if they can topple with impunity the statue of one of the founding fathers of modern masonry, all bets are off, lol!
     
    Don't worry. The Freemasons were just front men for the real masters, the Illuminati....

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/production.photos.funnyordie.com/p/media/199601ce31/MqfXkK9DR2a8uLzGJnMD_13040446_ml.jpg

    Replies: @BB753

    I’ll tell you who’s calling the shots now: The Council of Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Comission, and some lodge we’ve never probably heard of.

  137. @David In TN
    @Stan d Mute

    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.

    So the museums are safe then in your opinion?

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Stan d Mute

    "So, the museums are safe in your opinion?"

    Nothing is safe. It depends on whether the people pulling the strings for the "protests" decide to tear up something in the museums. Up to now the left calls something "racist" and the curators fall over themselves to remove it.

  138. @anon
    The tearing down of statues, starting with Lee's, angers me more than the looting, the arson, and the murders.
    It's a threat to me that I had better keep my mouth shut - don't speak, don't think.
    Incredible that mobs can do this all over the country with the support of the government. It is Mao at the head of government ordering red guard mobs to break the law and riot.
    It is totalitarian government and violent anarchy at once.
    The Democrats are committing treason in front of our eyes.

    Replies: @Charon, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Almost Missouri, @Prof. Woland

    What bothers me even more is the knowledge that if we were to go do the same thing to one of their statues or icons (take the big ugly MLK statue in the Mall in DC) we would go to jail for 20 years while they prance around gleefully after pulling down one of ours. That is white privilege.

  139. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    The Democratic elites are essentially preparing their last will and testament now knowing that within this election cycle, they will be demographically turfed out of the leadership of their own party forever. There is no going back for them. And they probably thought they could hang on for a few more decades. No such luck. Whites are in-grouping on the right and they cannot switch to the Republicans or build any influence there. While that is happening, Pelosi, the Clintons, and their (((funders))) will get pulled down like a statue of Robert E. Lee and replaced by an anti-white populist making this permanent. Their only hope is to gift their party to blacks who will anchor the left coalition but will still be dependent on the elites for money and logistics. It will be reminiscent of de-colonization in Africa where the British had to step down as the rulers but tried (in vain) to control the new governments with arms and security. Our job is the repay the favor and let liberals and their good (((friends))) wonder in the desert for 400 years.

  140. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    Perhaps a bit OTT. E.g., Trump will win a few states. Stacey Abrams probably won’t be Biden’s successor. But largely correct.

  141. JimB says:
    June 21, 2020 at 3:47 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @prime noticer
    @JimB

    "So when will a platoon of freehand climbing Antifa weenies attack Mt Rushmore?"

    not until Biden is President. with Trump in office, at least he will have national monuments under federal protection.

    but Rushmore is probably going, that's true. i plan to get out there this summer. it likely won't be there anymore by 2030 or so.

    people are underestimating what a huge effect Biden's Vice President is going to have. she's going to be an african woman, and she's going to be President herself after Biden. things will change fast when she's in charge.

    Replies: @JimB

    people are underestimating what a huge effect Biden’s Vice President is going to have. she’s going to be an african woman, and she’s going to be President herself after Biden. things will change fast when she’s in charge.

    Obama accomplished next to nothing except make the rich richer and fill up morgues with black bodies.

  142. @Stan d Mute
    @David In TN


    Soon as the idea penetrates their brain, what there is of it.
     
    So the museums are safe then in your opinion?

    Replies: @David In TN

    “So, the museums are safe in your opinion?”

    Nothing is safe. It depends on whether the people pulling the strings for the “protests” decide to tear up something in the museums. Up to now the left calls something “racist” and the curators fall over themselves to remove it.

  143. anon[404] • Disclaimer says:
    June 21, 2020 at 5:25 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @prime noticer
    Grant also started kicking out all the jews in the 1860s. something they never tell you about. like Longshanks kicking them out.

    incredible how so many great men throughout the ages hated jews. i wonder why. it's so strange how they all came down with the same mysterious, irrational disease.

    almost all "serious" HBD academics and scholars seem to have no idea about this stuff at all, which now makes me question how serious are they. they can talk about thousands of years of selection, natural history, crops, animals, the breeder's equation, but they've overlooked this, probably one of the most important factors in in explaining and understanding human history. something that recurs over and over for 2000 years at least.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @anon

    Longshanks is probably the most important King in all of Brittish history. His legacy is downplayed for obvious reasons — because he noticed certain people incorrigibly engage in financial fraud and predatory lending — much in the same way, the writers of the Magna Carta, 60 years earlier, called out the same ethnicity for predatory lending to widows. Maybe this explains their hatred of WASP’s? Just a guess.

    Grant’s noticing about Jewish speculators following the Union army are almost identical to a chapter in [MOST_EVIL_BOOK_IN_HISTORY] written by [MOST_EVIL_MAN_IN_HISTORY], who noticed the German military supply chains were manned overwhelmingly by a certain ethnicity, who directed orders to factories by said ethnicity. The noticing echos through the generations. All just a coincidence, I’m sure.

    Not sure if Steve refuses to notice, or if he thinks noticing is in bad taste, or if it is self-preservation, but nonetheless, the noticing goes on.

  144. @Whiskey
    Its over. The mob senses it, organically, like a wolf-pack knowing the elk is near death.

    Biden is the next President of the United States. Bank on it. Trump won't win a single state. He knows he's over. He shut up for once is and busy making a deal to keep Jared and Ivanka out of prison. The Joint Chiefs bailed on him. They know its over.

    After Biden steps down a few months after his inaugural, President Stacey Abrams will tell Pol Pot to hold her beer. She's got her own killing fields. Millions of gang members will be handed guns, give direction by Karens, and be given military backing to go out and hunt Bad Whites. Who will be pretty much ... all Whites. At least all White men. Guaranteed Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Boeing, Ford, Wal-Mart, Doritos, etc. are all on this. The Chik-Fil-A CEO will grovel at his own execution. It will be revamped to sell just chicken nuggets and the remaining police will respond to any shortages that occur.

    Its all over but the mopping up. The Fourth is over, this will be the last celebrated, Juneteenth is replacing it. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas they are all over. Gone. Replaced by George Floyd's birthday, OJ Simpson Day, and Kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

    Those few Whites not hunted down or sent to Apple Work Camps (Apple! The official provider of technology for the Revolution. Apple, when you need an app to hunt out counter-revolutionaries, Apple has you covered. Apple: the Revolution will Tik-Tokked!) ... Well lets just say it will be legal for any aspiring Rapper to act out "the Purge" at their convenience.

    Replies: @Miro23, @Thoughts, @TorontoMans, @JMcG, @Jonathan Mason, @Prof. Woland, @MBlanc46, @Single malt

    Halloween will be spared since it’s the queer high holy day.

  145. Corn says:
    @Altai
    @S

    But doing it to Washington is more serious. Once you undo him, you undo America as a creed, as a proposition nation. You annihilate it's connect with it's past.

    The only place left to go is back to blood.

    Replies: @Corn

    With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people–a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.

    This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.

    -John Jay

    Maybe we never should have moved beyond blood.

  146. @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > I haven’t heard of any MSM even mentioning that Saint Floyd actually had a 7x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

    Mr. Toad, Floyd's blood level of fentanyl would likely have led to respiratory arrest for somebody not tolerant to opioids (i.e. a non-user).

    As far as users, it's hard to know. The more opioids a person takes, the higher the amount needed to exert an effect. For some people, Floyd's level wouldn't relieve pain, cause a high, or depress respiration.

    One speculation was that Floyd swallowed a baggie as the cops approached, thus accidentally overdosing himself. A contrary one is that he was an addict, so this blood level was Business As Usual.

    Since he is a Saint, the media isn't pursuing loose ends that risk Narrative Fray.

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd's neck for five "I can't breathe" minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    It's not Monday morning quarterbacking to say that Floyd being a bad person doesn't justify the cop's action.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anon7, @Hypnotoad666

    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for five “I can’t breathe” minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.

    Personally, I think Occam’s razor favors the overdose hypothesis. If someone has a more than lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, and then dies from the exact symptoms of a fentanyl overdose, that may be the “simple explanation.”

    Heavy-using addicts overdose all the time, even though they may have built up a tolerance. At the very least it’s a likely scenario. Yet, it can’t even be discussed in public. Instead, everyone is required to ritually recite that it was an obvious “murder” as the entry price for even opining on the riots or whatever.

    I just find this suppression of obvious facts and reasonable discussion so disturbing.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > I just find this suppression of obvious facts and reasonable discussion so disturbing.

    It's not a theme, it is the distinguishing theme of our time.

    Like being a character in a dystopian story. As the Powers That Be guide the general public towards increasingly crazy thoughts and deeds, I demonstrate my unfitness to participate in civic life by... adhering to the standard of reasonableness that 'everybody' agreed on, until the day before yesterday.

  147. ic1000 says:
    June 21, 2020 at 4:12 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Hypnotoad666
    @ic1000


    The simple explanation may be the right one. The cop pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for five “I can’t breathe” minutes, and kept the pressure on for three more after he became unresponsive. Being unhealthy makes everything worse, so fentanyl could have contributed.
     
    Personally, I think Occam's razor favors the overdose hypothesis. If someone has a more than lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, and then dies from the exact symptoms of a fentanyl overdose, that may be the "simple explanation."

    Heavy-using addicts overdose all the time, even though they may have built up a tolerance. At the very least it's a likely scenario. Yet, it can't even be discussed in public. Instead, everyone is required to ritually recite that it was an obvious "murder" as the entry price for even opining on the riots or whatever.

    I just find this suppression of obvious facts and reasonable discussion so disturbing.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > I just find this suppression of obvious facts and reasonable discussion so disturbing.

    It’s not a theme, it is the distinguishing theme of our time.

    Like being a character in a dystopian story. As the Powers That Be guide the general public towards increasingly crazy thoughts and deeds, I demonstrate my unfitness to participate in civic life by… adhering to the standard of reasonableness that ‘everybody’ agreed on, until the day before yesterday.

  148. @Anon7
    @ic1000

    Have you seen this article in Medium?


    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

    The officers were recorded on their body cams assessing George Floyd as suffering from “excited delirium syndrome” (ExDS), a condition which the MPD considers an extreme threat to both the officers and the suspect. A white paper used by the MPD acknowledges that ExDS suspects may die irrespective of force involved. The officers’ response to this situation was in line with MPD guidelines for ExDS.
     

    Replies: @ic1000, @Hypnotoad666

    Have you seen this article in Medium?

    Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

    Absolutely excellent article! And, just to prove my original comment about the lying MSM, here’s what they noted about the New York Time’s “analysis:”

    A note on the analysis made by the New York Times
    The NYT published a “play by play” analysis on YouTube, analyzing how George Floyd died. They omit important information in their analysis.
    The NYT shows Floyd being cuffed behind his back, but then cut the footage so that you do not see the struggle that occurred while he was being cuffed.
    The NYT mentions complaints made against the officers. However, the NYT does not mention that only one of these complaints was found to have merit against Chauvin, when he asked a woman who was speeding 10 MPH over the limit to step out of her car. The NYT omits the average number of complaints against officers, which is approximately one every 3 years. The NYT also omits that Chauvin obtained two medals of valor, which was ironically reported by the NYT elsewhere.
    The NYT says “we don’t know why” they pulled Floyd out of the car. This is misleading, as we know they were unable to keep him detained in the squad car.
    The NYT omitted that Floyd was able to lift up his head and neck.
    The NYT omitted — completely — that the officers believed he was suffering from ExDS. (This is not a joke. The NYT omitted the linchpin of the case.)
    The NYT ignores his history of drug use, his two heart conditions, as well as the fentanyl found in his system.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  149. Keypusher says:
    June 22, 2020 at 3:50 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Justvisiting
    @yanouz

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    I think he understands the rioting, looting, and statue toppling is his key to re-election.

    All he has to do is key out an occasional tweet blasting the mayors and governors for doing nothing.

    The average American suburban middle class white (particularly women) are very complacent.

    Trump wants them angry--and expressing their anger by turning out to vote for him.

    The Democrats are mice going for the leftist cheese--the trap will spring in the fall.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Keypusher

    It is common (including most folks around here) to underestimate Trump.

    It is impossible to underestimate Trump. It is all too common (though, thankfully, becoming rarer) for idiots like you to try to pretend that he is something other than the biggest buffoon in our nation’s history.

    It’s over. Stop being stupid.

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