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Many optional surgeries were delayed or called off during 2020 due to the pandemic. For example, a survey of patients found that 86% who had a hip or knee arthroplasty procedure scheduled for March through May 2020 had their operations postponed or canceled, leaving them longer in greater pain and lesser mobility.

But, this being contemporary America, a few optional operations continued to explode in number even during 2020:

In 2020, America’s plastic surgeons didn’t let the pandemic slow down their booming business in permanently mutilating sad, confused young women in the grip of an absurd fad pushed by high IQ fetishists. Chopping off breasts due to “gender dysphoria” still increased 15% in 2020 over 2019.

After all, the new electric Porsche Taycan isn’t free, you know.

The new Woke Hippocratic Oath for plastic surgeons tempted to do lucrative breast-chopping-offs on moody girls jumping on the trans trend isn’t “First, do no harm.”

It’s now: “First, don’t get your Porsche repo’d so you have to drive a Lexus like some loser.”

 
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  1. By ” high IQ fetishists” you mean morons, right?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    , @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @BB753

    No, not morons, psychotics

  2. Come on, let’s just admit it – is this (former) country great or what?!

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @1John
    @usNthem

    Ref. “is this (former) country”, exactly; it’s done fore we have & continue being INVADED, yet, there is no wide spread mention of our ongoing INVASION.

  3. Chopping off breasts due to “gender dysphoria” still increased 15% in 2020 over 2019.

    I see a 300% rise in bungled exits from nations we send our meals on wheels military and NGOs to. This rise in genital(s) mutilations in the USA correlates with this rise is FUBARed Afghanistan exits and causes them. True? I have read that you join our military for your sex-change ops and injections, you will get them gratis.

    Wokista, Obamunista and all-purpose dumbass bungler, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Miley Cyrus. He is transitioning. And why wouldn’t he?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Clyde

    How dare you insult General Miley Cyrus’s competence? Have you seen all the salad on his uniform? He wouldn’t have won all that unless he had crushed more enemies than Genghiz Khan, Marshall Zhukov, and General Eisenhower put together.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  4. Someone I was at school with, in the 1970s, died of cancer recently, his treatment was disrupted by COVID lockdown.

    Sick of all this.

    • Replies: @theMann
    @Gordo

    Add another murder to the list of crimes the CoronaFraudsters have committed.


    Do something about it.

  5. @BB753
    By " high IQ fetishists" you mean morons, right?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. DoomNGloom

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.
     
    ➡️ U R.

    Still, the term is breast choppings-off.
    , @Clyde
    @Steve Sailer


    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.
     
    With sub-sub basement IQs when it comes to common sense and controlling their wacked emotions that get them injecting and chopping. But wait! Most male>female never get The Big Chop. So really they are putrid transvestites, though now they come with women's breasts from hormone injections. We discuss third world nations with the lowest IQs. This crowd with their shots, ops and chops are lower.
    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    according to whom? them? is steve an "autogynephilia fetishists" himself?

    if you have a fetish of any kind you're a moron. if you disagree you have severe autism.

    , @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    My dad used to say intelligence is only intelligence when it translates into intelligent acts.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    , @BB753
    @Steve Sailer

    Are autogynephiliac male perverts really pushing women to chop off their breasts? Are female to male transexuals actually smart?

  6. I had to look up “natal” and the woke first entry told me that “biological male” is in some way offensive, so that’s why we use “natal”. Got it.

    As a parent who sympathizes, and I sure do too, could you possibly see the dilemma for parents who don’t want their kids to be jabbed with not-yet-proven-out vaccines for a disease that doesn’t much affect them? They want some control of the matter, just like parents of these unfortunate girls ought to have had.

    I hope you stay on this story, Steve.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The local press here in the 413 is especially stressing the “kids getting the Delta” angle. In addition to a majority of Western MA towns reinstituting indoor mask mandates, most school districts are announcing that, while they’ll be open in person this fall, all employees and students will have to wear the face diaper of obedience. The Massachusetts Teachers ( it pains me to admit I don’t know if there’s an apostrophe there) Association is putting pressure on Governor Charlie “Parker” (RINO, MA) to make the mask requirement state-wide. My best guess is he folds.

    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in- I’ve gotten 5 emails and a phone call so far, it wouldn’t surprise me to find I have to submit a pint of blood- or discover half way down that the show’s been cancelled.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  7. To put the 2105 baseline of Steve’s graph in perspective, figures on the demand for gender dysphoria surgeries. iSteve comment from April 2021.

    Referrals to the Royal Children’s Hospital Melbourne (Australia) gender service:

    Prior to 2008 – 0 to 2 per year
    2009-2011 – 6 to 8
    2012 – 18
    2013 – 40
    2014 – 104
    2015 – 170
    2016 – 226
    2017 – 253
    2018 – ~265
    2019 – ~340

    I had recollected seeing similarly shocking numbers for Cincinnati Children’s Hospital, but could not locate them.

    Later in the same thread:

    A growing market with great opportunities for new premium services.

    • Thanks: Nikolai Vladivostok
  8. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    I think a significant number of women (and men) indulged in plastic surgery owing to exponentially increased FaceTime and Zoom interactions, which was conducive to the hard realization that their ring lights in no way mitigated fibrillating jowls.

    Others, being stuck at home thanks to covid, simply got sick of looking at their butt-ugly faces in the bathroom mirror multiple times a day. Ugly people never get used to being ugly. Ask Tiny Duck. Why do you think he’s perpetually triggered? You think if he ever had a job, he wouldn’t save some money to secure a high-interest loan to pay a cheap indonesian plastic surgeon to try to mitigate the unspeakably wretched blight on his countenance?

    He certainly would, if he could, believe you me.

    With his face, you only have the right to understand him. You, dear reader, have no right to judge him, unless your face is as maliciously bedeviled by nature.

    You have… NO right!

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Anonymous


    Ugly people never get used to being ugly. Ask Tiny Duck. Why do you think he’s perpetually triggered?
     
    Tiny Duck is not triggered. The Diminutive Duck thrills in triggering the gullible who fall for his obvious bait.
  9. When Paul McHugh was Chief of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins he made the surgeons stop their gender mutilations. Alas, when McHugh retired the surgical butchery recommenced! (BTW, McHugh was Tom Wolfe’s psychiatrist.)

  10. One wonders what public school counselors are telling their clients.

  11. @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    ➡️ U R.

    Still, the term is breast choppings-off.

  12. They are not just Chopping off; they also made 4,035 (pairs of ?) breasts for males. Is there a similar statistic on lower body parts? That would be a better indicator of sex reassignment surgery.

  13. From the Woke point of view the increase in transgender surgeries proves that oppressed transgender wanna be’s are now liberated to be their true selves. It’s a victory but needs to go further, always further!
    The large number of breast augmentation surgeries is proof that the patriarchy is still brainwashing hapless women with an image of perfect breasts as defined by males. More work to be done destroying the patriarchy!
    All evidence reinforces their beliefs, the opposite approach to falsifiability.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @rebel yell


    The large number of breast augmentation surgeries is proof that the patriarchy is still brainwashing hapless women with an image of perfect breasts as defined by males. More work to be done destroying the patriarchy!
     
    Now about that chop
    There is no doubt
    Far better, have your woman
    Go the silicone route
    Meaning enhanced for
    More romance
    When she has more upstairs
    You will drop your silly cares
    About P-chops & wearing women's braziers

    So if you are splurging
    On a plastic surgeon
    Go silicone and be done
    For much more fun
    Leave the chops for the dopes
    That the shrinks have no hopes
    For
  14. @usNthem
    Come on, let’s just admit it - is this (former) country great or what?!

    Replies: @1John

    Ref. “is this (former) country”, exactly; it’s done fore we have & continue being INVADED, yet, there is no wide spread mention of our ongoing INVASION.

  15. i guess studying capitalist ideology at rice and how to be a capitalist commisar at ucla steve never heard the term “bourgeois decadence”.

    it’s the capitalism stupid.

    with a jewish cherry on top.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @anon


    with a jewish cherry on top.
     
    What's Jews got to do with it?

    Replies: @Honorary Jew

  16. Why doesn’t someone sell a reversible coat? You could wear it with the pink side out when you are female and blue side out when you are male. This would do away with surgery which is difficult or impossible to reverse, probably painful and certainly expensive.

    There would be a big market for reversible clothing in the sporting field. Consider the male-to-female New Zealand weightlifter in the recent Olympics, as well as the male-to-female runners and other sporting people!

  17. “No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.”

    I remember 2004 when I noticed I was restocking tons of academic press books on trannies, vaguely baffled why academics were so interested in this topic, given the numbers. Only put it together later academic presses actually SOLD some of those books on trannies (they never sell anything else,) and it was a thing young female academics got off on reading about, like astrology or true crime. Anyway, that was the origin, and then tabloid publishing trends later mimicked this–both in basic clickbait effects, and also bringing in astrology-minded, core ideologues and wokescolds.

    Interestingly, in 2004 this WAS debating how many angels could fit on the head of a pin, yet now has exploded into willing those angels dancing on the head of a pin into existence.

  18. 3 plastic surgeries that everyone should get.

    1. Rhinoplasty
    2. Hair transplant
    3. Skin resurfacing

    If you can be anything in life, be physically attractive.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is America!

  19. Dear Steve,

    Speaking as a young female, I say thank you! for highlighting just how wrong it is for young females to be getting plastic surgery (let alone cosmetic surgery or botox injections!) while America is in a pandemic.

    People with painful knees and hips just need to suffer for the good of the Party (er, I mean the country).

    Now excuse me, I’m due at my hairdresser’s. (You must look like Cousin It from the Adam’s Family by now! Ha! Ha!)

    Yours,
    Nancy Pelosi
    (On behalf of all the other eternally young female hags in Congress)

    PS: Eternally young Joe Biden says hi!

    https://www.distractify.com/p/nancy-pelosi-eyebrows

  20. “Many optional surgeries were delayed or called off during 2020 due to the pandemic. For example, a survey of patients found that 86% who had a hip or knee arthroplasty procedure scheduled for March through May 2020 had their operations postponed or canceled, leaving them longer in greater pain and lesser mobility.”

    This is, of course, obfuscation. Many critical surgeries were certainly delayed or called off as well, as patients were scared of going into hospitals, or doctors and nurses for that matter. Who knows what kind of bureaucratic delays were piled on top of the already existing ones because of covid-mania? Will we ever know what percentage of Ron’s favorite pro-pandemic hysteria graph depicting an increase of mortality in 2020 were of people who needed say, a triple bypass? Or a kidney transplant?

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Mike Tre

    Part of this may be also be due to hospitals versus surgicenters. Surgicenters, or ambulatory surgery centers, have become extremely common; they do relatively minor stuff that you are discharged home immediately afterwards and don't spend the night. Transgender surgeries may have been done primarily in surgicenters, many of which did not really dial back much during the pandemic. They don't have an ICU, they don't have beds, they don't treat COVID patients, it's basically like a regular doctors office with an operating room or two, so they don't need to worry about overflowing the ICU, because there isn't one.

  21. Surgeons may be missing out on a possible new two-fer…

    …transplanting those unwanted breasts onto men who want to be women.

    • LOL: Kylie
  22. Dear Steve,

    It sounds like you want young girls in America growing up to look like Marcia Brady!

    What kind of a sick individual are you?

    The ideal is now for young women to look like me- the epitomy and quintessence of the loveliness of modern non-womenhood in America.

    Now, excuse me, but I’m due at the barber’s. (I have to remain bootiful for the cameras!)

    Yours disgusted at you,

    Lori Lightfoot
    Mayor of Clownago

    • LOL: Clyde
  23. @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    With sub-sub basement IQs when it comes to common sense and controlling their wacked emotions that get them injecting and chopping. But wait! Most male>female never get The Big Chop. So really they are putrid transvestites, though now they come with women’s breasts from hormone injections. We discuss third world nations with the lowest IQs. This crowd with their shots, ops and chops are lower.

  24. Anon[717] • Disclaimer says:

    It isn’t just women with gender dysphoria having breast reduction surgery.

    In college I had a girlfriend with obscenely inflated secondary sexual characteristics. Slim waist, huge ass and thighs, and absolutely enormous, 44E breasts. She her breasts reduced because she genuinely hated them.

    She kept the booty though. I honestly don’t think women like having large breasts. It just isn’t in vogue. Nipples also seem to be more important for attractiveness. I bet a lot of women try to get nipple enlargement surgery, and we all know how popular areola tattooing is. Doesn’t matter if you have big tits if they sag and your nipples are invisible and unpalpable.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Anon

    Funny you should mention breast reductions. Recently I've noticed a lot of celebratory commentary about breast reduction surgeries. The latest was Rachel Bloom from Crazy Ex-girlfriend. She was busty at maybe a DD but not insanely big to merit a reduction.

    Do I detect an undercurrent of misandry in this pro-reduction rhetoric lately? Yes I do. I get the sense that underlying this is the notion that anything that could possibly bring joy to a cisgender heterosexual male somewhere is suspect and probably needs to go.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @TheOldWay
    @Anon

    Can I get her number?

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Anon

    I believe the term we are all looking for is “humblebragging”.

  25. What happened 2016-2017 for the dramatic increase? Jenner’s transploitation series, “I am Cait” came out 2015-2016. Any other guesses?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Daniel H

    A big build-up in the media promoting trans from 2013 on (had been growing before then, but more quietly). Then Jenner in June 2015, spreads to teen girls, who then get cut a year or two later.

  26. @Daniel H
    What happened 2016-2017 for the dramatic increase? Jenner's transploitation series, "I am Cait" came out 2015-2016. Any other guesses?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A big build-up in the media promoting trans from 2013 on (had been growing before then, but more quietly). Then Jenner in June 2015, spreads to teen girls, who then get cut a year or two later.

  27. In Covidized clown nation 2021 we need new lyrics — “When the World Is Running Down, You Chop Off the Best of What’s Still Around”. And you get your spike protein, hot shot vaxxxes. (Spike protein producing via the mRNA injected)

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Clyde

    Defund the Police. (Or, "O laser, where is thy Sting?")

  28. Unfortunately there are even more unsightly breasts than there are cankles. My theory is that none of these girls have breasts than they can hope to mash into competitive form with wonderbras and they just want out of the whole competition.

    • Replies: @Cromwellforever
    @james wilson

    Based on my anecdotal experience it's the opposite. I've known three transmen, including dating one, and all had big naturals they were disgusted by.

    Replies: @IHTG

  29. Young lawyers should consider this field. There will be money made here, suing these bastards for malpractice. This is life ruining stuff, so the rewards are not small.

  30. @BB753
    By " high IQ fetishists" you mean morons, right?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. DoomNGloom

    No, not morons, psychotics

  31. It’s what Generation Z wants.

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    • Replies: @anon
    @J.Ross

    Onlyfans

    This seemed like an urbane legend so of course I czeched and it's true...but not until 1 October.

    https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/


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    For those who prefer the tl;dr, TMZ also has the story.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-ban-porn-october-change-pornography/

    The company says the ban on sexually explicit content is going in to effect Oct. 1 ... and seemingly blames the decision on outside pressure, saying it's making the big change to get in line with requests from banking partners and payout providers.

    The company says it's got to evolve to "ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, and continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans."
     

    Replies: @Dissident

  33. @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    according to whom? them? is steve an “autogynephilia fetishists” himself?

    if you have a fetish of any kind you’re a moron. if you disagree you have severe autism.

  34. @anon
    i guess studying capitalist ideology at rice and how to be a capitalist commisar at ucla steve never heard the term "bourgeois decadence".

    it's the capitalism stupid.

    with a jewish cherry on top.

    Replies: @Dissident

    with a jewish cherry on top.

    What’s Jews got to do with it?

    • Replies: @Honorary Jew
    @Dissident



    "CRT is crazy" for thee blacks, but not for me whites.

    I can think of two mangled points--1)Steve actually makes the money he lives off of off these crazy people, so let's not alienate them. Reasonable. There's that Nazi writer on here, with fans, and Steven Pinker won every argument in 2002, but nobody cares--like, at all. They don't read books. Pinker avoided the HBD topic, largely, but like first paragraph of the book ("The Blank Slate") he namechecks and quotes "The Bell Curve," not to be a pussy. He could have buried it on page 300, and he didn't, he put it right up front. Some balls--in 2002--at least. 2)I see some kind of abortion of "Jews created Civil Rights movement" on here sometimes which has some truth to it, but if you had any empathy, you'd perceive it as a tragic one. Postwar (smart) Jews had the idea minimizing (and paradoxically maximizing) the concept of race was the way, having experienced the Holocaust. Whelp--that might have been wrong, like the racial reckoning, Freud, Marx, etc. The Jews are high IQ idiots, like every other group of humans with high IQ. Think of the guy curing polio while the tragically misguided tried to start racial reckonings, cuz they thought it was a moral imperative.

  35. @Anonymous
    I think a significant number of women (and men) indulged in plastic surgery owing to exponentially increased FaceTime and Zoom interactions, which was conducive to the hard realization that their ring lights in no way mitigated fibrillating jowls.

    Others, being stuck at home thanks to covid, simply got sick of looking at their butt-ugly faces in the bathroom mirror multiple times a day. Ugly people never get used to being ugly. Ask Tiny Duck. Why do you think he’s perpetually triggered? You think if he ever had a job, he wouldn’t save some money to secure a high-interest loan to pay a cheap indonesian plastic surgeon to try to mitigate the unspeakably wretched blight on his countenance?

    He certainly would, if he could, believe you me.

    With his face, you only have the right to understand him. You, dear reader, have no right to judge him, unless your face is as maliciously bedeviled by nature.

    You have… NO right!

    Replies: @Dissident

    Ugly people never get used to being ugly. Ask Tiny Duck. Why do you think he’s perpetually triggered?

    Tiny Duck is not triggered. The Diminutive Duck thrills in triggering the gullible who fall for his obvious bait.

  36. Wouldn’t the plural of a “chopping-off” be many “choppings-off”?

    And yes, the surgeries bother me too, but less.

  37. I get the feeling that plastic surgeons weren’t, on the whole, likely to have been the most conscientious people in the world and probably opened up as soon as legally possible. But it’s shocking how the trend line is totally unfazed.

    What’s interesting is the incline in 2017. Did Der Trumpening cause such a rupture on social media that things kicked up a gear that much? It wasn’t just anti-Trumpism but generalised Tumblrist ideals and ‘wokeness’ being stoked by the media and on Twitter to cause a surge of ‘Aidens’. Did the media’s portrayal of Trump is a menacing pussy-grabbing monster trigger PTSD in young women with issues relating to sexual assault who subsequently wanted to neuter their female sexuality? A kind of middle class adolescent BPD/anxious white girl version of the little black girl screaming and being afraid of the evil man from TV coming into her classroom.

    Anyway, you can see the kind of very stable and very masculine girls doing this to themselves on their subreddits.

    **Be warned there are a lot of images of their ‘top surgeries’. They’re really going at it.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/

    Anyway who wants to claim this isn’t just a novel presentation of BPD need only take a look at them.

    https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/ftm
    Users of r/FTM are over 6 times more likely than average to also be users of r/BPD.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Altai

    Plastic surgery is also a field which is disproportionately black, as it has a reputation for being both more lucrative and less demanding than other medical specializations.

  38. @rebel yell
    From the Woke point of view the increase in transgender surgeries proves that oppressed transgender wanna be's are now liberated to be their true selves. It's a victory but needs to go further, always further!
    The large number of breast augmentation surgeries is proof that the patriarchy is still brainwashing hapless women with an image of perfect breasts as defined by males. More work to be done destroying the patriarchy!
    All evidence reinforces their beliefs, the opposite approach to falsifiability.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The large number of breast augmentation surgeries is proof that the patriarchy is still brainwashing hapless women with an image of perfect breasts as defined by males. More work to be done destroying the patriarchy!

    Now about that chop
    There is no doubt
    Far better, have your woman
    Go the silicone route
    Meaning enhanced for
    More romance
    When she has more upstairs
    You will drop your silly cares
    About P-chops & wearing women’s braziers

    So if you are splurging
    On a plastic surgeon
    Go silicone and be done
    For much more fun
    Leave the chops for the dopes
    That the shrinks have no hopes
    For

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    My dad used to say intelligence is only intelligence when it translates into intelligent acts.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Anon

    The corollary, stupid is as stupid does...

    Not that I was a huge fan of that movie but it's a useful one-liner.

    Actually googling it now apparently it predates the movie...

  40. @Clyde

    Chopping off breasts due to “gender dysphoria” still increased 15% in 2020 over 2019.
     
    I see a 300% rise in bungled exits from nations we send our meals on wheels military and NGOs to. This rise in genital(s) mutilations in the USA correlates with this rise is FUBARed Afghanistan exits and causes them. True? I have read that you join our military for your sex-change ops and injections, you will get them gratis.

    Wokista, Obamunista and all-purpose dumbass bungler, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Miley Cyrus. He is transitioning. And why wouldn't he?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    How dare you insult General Miley Cyrus’s competence? Have you seen all the salad on his uniform? He wouldn’t have won all that unless he had crushed more enemies than Genghiz Khan, Marshall Zhukov, and General Eisenhower put together.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Alfa158

    Compare the "fruit salads" of General David Petraeus, who fought no enemy who could defeat his forces, and Admiral Raymond Spruance, veteran of both World Wars.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.m7XY4n_QN5HS7IrtrdRx7wHaEx%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seaforces.org%2Fusnships%2Fddg%2FDDG-111_DAT%2FRaymond-Ames-Spruance-pic002.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

    The modern flag officer's decorations are something right out of HMS Pinafore!

    Replies: @Ganderson

  41. @Dissident
    @anon


    with a jewish cherry on top.
     
    What's Jews got to do with it?

    Replies: @Honorary Jew

    “CRT is crazy” for thee blacks, but not for me whites.

    I can think of two mangled points–1)Steve actually makes the money he lives off of off these crazy people, so let’s not alienate them. Reasonable. There’s that Nazi writer on here, with fans, and Steven Pinker won every argument in 2002, but nobody cares–like, at all. They don’t read books. Pinker avoided the HBD topic, largely, but like first paragraph of the book (“The Blank Slate”) he namechecks and quotes “The Bell Curve,” not to be a pussy. He could have buried it on page 300, and he didn’t, he put it right up front. Some balls–in 2002–at least. 2)I see some kind of abortion of “Jews created Civil Rights movement” on here sometimes which has some truth to it, but if you had any empathy, you’d perceive it as a tragic one. Postwar (smart) Jews had the idea minimizing (and paradoxically maximizing) the concept of race was the way, having experienced the Holocaust. Whelp–that might have been wrong, like the racial reckoning, Freud, Marx, etc. The Jews are high IQ idiots, like every other group of humans with high IQ. Think of the guy curing polio while the tragically misguided tried to start racial reckonings, cuz they thought it was a moral imperative.

  42. anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    It isn't just women with gender dysphoria having breast reduction surgery.


    In college I had a girlfriend with obscenely inflated secondary sexual characteristics. Slim waist, huge ass and thighs, and absolutely enormous, 44E breasts. She her breasts reduced because she genuinely hated them.


    She kept the booty though. I honestly don't think women like having large breasts. It just isn't in vogue. Nipples also seem to be more important for attractiveness. I bet a lot of women try to get nipple enlargement surgery, and we all know how popular areola tattooing is. Doesn't matter if you have big tits if they sag and your nipples are invisible and unpalpable.

    Replies: @anonymous, @TheOldWay, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Funny you should mention breast reductions. Recently I’ve noticed a lot of celebratory commentary about breast reduction surgeries. The latest was Rachel Bloom from Crazy Ex-girlfriend. She was busty at maybe a DD but not insanely big to merit a reduction.

    Do I detect an undercurrent of misandry in this pro-reduction rhetoric lately? Yes I do. I get the sense that underlying this is the notion that anything that could possibly bring joy to a cisgender heterosexual male somewhere is suspect and probably needs to go.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @anonymous

    Nah, big boobs can really get in the way. Anyone spending any significant time with a woman with large breasts knows the complaints.

    I dated a girl in college whose breasts were 38GG. Her boobs were bigger than my head! She had them reduced to DD as soon as her doctor deemed her old enough. My ex-wife was a 36DD. Back problems led her to get a reduction to a C cup shortly after we divorced. She's quite pleased not to pinch a boob under her arm anymore when she rolls over while sleeping!

    But as the great Heinlein wrote, if the question is why, then the answer is $$$. When the girlfriend was a young nurse, she used to give hormone shots to the trannies seeing a doc at the old City Hospital getting facial feminization surgury. He did a great business, as it was cash on the barrelhead, not covered by insurance. She said that the doc was going to retire a few years ago, but now that all this trannie crap is covered by insurance now, he decided to soldier on. His business is more lucrative than ever.

    You get more of whatever you subsidize.

  43. Over the last 18 months, the medical profession has really covered itself with s**t. The fact that so many doctors reflexively shoved tubes down their patients throats, and put them into comas for weeks (until they died), collaborated in suppressing effective treatments for COVID, promoted the cult of scientism that modern science and medicine are becoming with their “Look at me! I’m wearing scrubs! I am a life-saving hero! I am infallible!” a**hattery, and are now acting as enforcers for Pfeizer and pushers of their crappier-by-the-day vaccine will not be forgotten by many people. And the doctors who promote this tranny-insanity are just evil.

    Physician heal thyself.

  44. It wasn’t too long ago that young girls “cutting” on themselves was considered aberrant and destructive behavior — seems positively quaint now

  45. anon[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Sorta related:
    Onlyfans is sort of a pornographic Amazon Marketplace for DIY self-producing self-managing porn stars. Roasties don't have to learn to code, cucks can simp for a hyperspecific gender-reversed Barry Lyndon JOI, the lilitu are in their wasteland, all's on the nod with the whirled. Onlyfans has announced (now, this is after Tumblr decided to gut itself and thus far lost half its traffic) to ban {thrikefru} the reason it exithtth {/thrikefru} pr0n. Young women who identify as women are inconsolable on Twitter. Rumor: Der China, which is solidly anti-porn, sind schuld. Rumor: Big Centralized Outdated Dying Inept Porn is behind this, they imagine that this can make people forget that DIY is superior in every way to studio (despite being mysteriously cheaper) and we can go back to 1977. Maybe. That sounds like their thinking. I don't know. But for a while there a lot of chicks thought, rightly, that they didn't need college, because horny morons would buy them mcmansions and groceries.

    Replies: @anon

    Onlyfans

    This seemed like an urbane legend so of course I czeched and it’s true…but not until 1 October.

    https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/

    It’s a serious question whether OnlyFans will be able to survive this transition in any recognizable form. The choice to abandon their most lucrative and loyal segment of customers and creators may poison the well, with others declining to rely on a platform that failed to support others. Investors, once wary of the risk of putting money into a sex-adjacent product, may now be wary of paying to board a sinking ship. That $1 billion valuation may be farther away than ever.

    For those who prefer the tl;dr, TMZ also has the story.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-ban-porn-october-change-pornography/

    The company says the ban on sexually explicit content is going in to effect Oct. 1 … and seemingly blames the decision on outside pressure, saying it’s making the big change to get in line with requests from banking partners and payout providers.

    The company says it’s got to evolve to “ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, and continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans.”

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @anon


    This seemed like an urbane legend so of course I czeched and it’s true
     
    If a given work is sufficiently urbane, wouldn't that suggest that it is more one of erotica than porn?

    Besides often undeniable artistic and literary merit, erotica of the drawn and written variety has the redeeming quality of not requiring the exploitation, harm or placing-at-risk of any actual, living beings.

    From Fanny Hill and Avril, to Debbie Does Dallas, to the present...no plots or story lines; no artistic or aesthetic standards; performers liable to literally be the girl or guy next-door...To what further depths might we yet descend?

    Not sure where the Czechs fit into any of this.

    NOTE: Any and all personal familiarity by the author with the subject matter in question that may be implied through this comment was acquired with clinical detachment, solely in his role as social commentator.

  46. I don’t mind what adults do to their own bodies. If people really want to mutilate themselves, well I think that is a very bad idea in the vast majority of cases, but is it my business at the end of the day to tell them what they can or cannot do? Though it might be a social problem if it starts to become an epidemic…

    However, I also don’t get then why we don’t legalize almost drugs. At least you can get on a rehab program if you get hooked, whereas once you chop off your dick or your boobs, then that’s it, it’s something you have to live with forever (or not, given their suicide rates). I allow that “transition” really might might help some small percentage of people who are convinced that they live in the wrong body from a psychological standpoint, but you can say the same with many drugs. In fact, I suspect that LSD micro-dosing would probably benefit quite a large percentage of people.

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more “radical” and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    Moreover, since even children can “transition” in many Western countries – something that for the record strikes me as systemically evil – then by the same logic you should not have any issues with kindergarten coke parties and the like. I obviously don’t support that, but what’s the functional difference? (apart from the latter being temporary affairs).

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anatoly Karlin

    But wouldn't people supporting unrestrained body transformations not eventually also be for kindergarten coke parties?

    It's just a matter of time. Once more onto the breach etc.

    , @ic1000
    @Anatoly Karlin

    > I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more “radical” and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    An excellent point that I haven't seen explored in the mainstream media. (Although the fawning coverage of Drag Queen Story Time At The Library has convinced me of that policy's benefits for pre-teens.)

    It's perhaps similar to the posture that global-warming Alarmists (their self-description) should have towards nuclear power. Since our planet warming by 8 C (etc.) over the next century is an existential crisis, in a way that Fukushima, Chernobyl, etc. are not.

    A few of the Alarmists have arrived at this position, to their credit. But it's a small minority.

    , @anon
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization.


    A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
    --Ralph Waldo Emerson
     
  47. When I read this I thought, “What do they do with the left over titties?” Being the US with so many whack jobs on the lose with so many obscure and bizarre fetishes, why not sell the boobies and make more cash on the side. You’d like a girlfriend but can’t afford one? Buy a boob instead, or maybe two. Imagine if you will, a boss of a company who’s sick of squeezing a stress ball when he feels his blood pressure rising, instead grabs the left one. Actually on second thoughts that might increase his blood pressure. He might end up running around the board room chasing the secretary. And then of course his fellow ceo has to purchase his own as well. He can’t be outdone by not having the latest fad. Heck, that shiny, new Porsche can be paid off in double time.

  48. So.. just some comments on the economics of surgery…from a financial perspective, these cases are like a dream come true for plastic surgeons, for the following reasons.

    As a surgeon you are typically paid a semi-fixed amount for a surgery, which includes the preoperative visits and the follow up, either in the office or in the hospital while recovering. (If they recover in the hospital, the hospital is paid separately for the stay, as well as for the use of their ORs and staff.) From this fixed amount you pay your billing fees, malpractice insurance, and other assorted costs.

    Some of these surgeries will be on patients who have a variety of other health problems and you spend a lot of time on postoperative care, that you are not reimbursed for. Additionally, patients with other health problems are likelier to develop other surgical complications that, at minimum, require your time and attention, and may also precipitate a lawsuit or something similar. For example an obese patient with diabetes is going to be much more likely to have a wound infection than a slim patient.

    So your ideal surgical population would be young healthy patients with one specific surgical problem. Of course, these patients are very rare–after all they are young and healthy. But if you could build a practice that was all young and healthy, well, it would be extremely lucrative. On the other hand, if your practice was mostly the old and sick, it can be very stressful and not very lucrative.

    So of course there is a moral hazard in all this, that doctors can be inclined to over-diagnose and over treat the young and healthy (cough meniscectomies cough) . It is a problem, but there are some (imperfect) checks and balances built into the system to try to prevent this. Insurers will refuse to pay for procedures without a clear indication, even if both the patient and the surgeon want it. Often the decision about whether surgery is indicated is not even up to the surgeon–for example the radiologist (who is theoretically a disinterested third party) will determine if there is an appendicitis and basically tell the surgeon to operate. For plastic surgeries, the patients are paying out of pocket so cost becomes a factor. Lastly, usually people don’t _want_ to have surgery if they can avoid it, and if they find out later that the indication was shaky, you may be in for a lawsuit, particularly if there were complications.

    So, ‘top’ surgery–god I hate that term, it sounds so unprofessional–anyway ‘top’ surgeries… 1.) Young and healthy patients. 2.) Relatively non-invasive surgery, relatively few complications afterward. 2.) Insurer pays, so patients are price-insensitive. 3.) Insurer is afraid to turn down claims based on shaky indications because trans activists are so vocal 4.) patients really want the surgery (or think they want it)

    So it’s like a money spigot, with no off valve.

    • Replies: @Nikolai Vladivostok
    @SimpleSong

    Do you think there's a risk of lawsuits down the track from patients who claim they were manipulated into it while minors? I keep expecting a tsunami of such lawsuits but they never seem to arrive.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    , @anon
    @SimpleSong

    Isn't it pretty hard to sue for malpractice on contigency anymore? I was under the impression that doctors at this point are wise to the specific verbiage they must put in the chart to absolve themselves of a patient who is high risk/noncompliant

  49. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    My dad used to say intelligence is only intelligence when it translates into intelligent acts.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    The corollary, stupid is as stupid does…

    Not that I was a huge fan of that movie but it’s a useful one-liner.

    Actually googling it now apparently it predates the movie…

  50. @Mike Tre
    "Many optional surgeries were delayed or called off during 2020 due to the pandemic. For example, a survey of patients found that 86% who had a hip or knee arthroplasty procedure scheduled for March through May 2020 had their operations postponed or canceled, leaving them longer in greater pain and lesser mobility."

    This is, of course, obfuscation. Many critical surgeries were certainly delayed or called off as well, as patients were scared of going into hospitals, or doctors and nurses for that matter. Who knows what kind of bureaucratic delays were piled on top of the already existing ones because of covid-mania? Will we ever know what percentage of Ron's favorite pro-pandemic hysteria graph depicting an increase of mortality in 2020 were of people who needed say, a triple bypass? Or a kidney transplant?

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    Part of this may be also be due to hospitals versus surgicenters. Surgicenters, or ambulatory surgery centers, have become extremely common; they do relatively minor stuff that you are discharged home immediately afterwards and don’t spend the night. Transgender surgeries may have been done primarily in surgicenters, many of which did not really dial back much during the pandemic. They don’t have an ICU, they don’t have beds, they don’t treat COVID patients, it’s basically like a regular doctors office with an operating room or two, so they don’t need to worry about overflowing the ICU, because there isn’t one.

  51. Anon[890] • Disclaimer says:

    I strongly suspect that a generation that grew up getting tattoos also decided–or grew used to–the notion that altering your body in a permanent way was normal. Tattooing really does look like a important precursor for developing this cultural shift, a gateway drug if you will.

    I’d like to know how many of those getting sex changes already have tattoos.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Anon

    Some deranged minds end up transitioning to a different species ( mentally). It's called transhumanism. Unless you want your conscience downloaded into a computer or AI. That's the extreme stuff some aging nerds are into.
    Here's a genderless reptile who used to be a plain HIV positive homosexual. He gets extra intersectional points for being formerly Mexican, I guess. There's plenty of iSteve content in this YouTube channel, if you have the stomach to watch these documentaries.
    https://youtu.be/e9HxE4ROUvM

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  52. If you fly from Tarama, Japan to Nanyang, China (929 mi), that journey is officially TRA-NNY. If it’s FagurhĂłlsmĂ˝ri, Iceland to Gothenburg (1055 mi), not an inconceivable trip, your bag tag will read FAG-GOT.

    But don’t arrange a flight from Nikunau, Kiribati to Nueva Gerona, Cuba. Just don’t. Your flight will be cancelled, and so will you.

    Istanbul to Harstad/Narvik, Norway (1934 mi) is IST-EVE.

    • LOL: Dissident
  53. @Clyde
    In Covidized clown nation 2021 we need new lyrics --- "When the World Is Running Down, You Chop Off the Best of What's Still Around". And you get your spike protein, hot shot vaxxxes. (Spike protein producing via the mRNA injected)

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Defund the Police. (Or, “O laser, where is thy Sting?”)

  54. @james wilson
    Unfortunately there are even more unsightly breasts than there are cankles. My theory is that none of these girls have breasts than they can hope to mash into competitive form with wonderbras and they just want out of the whole competition.

    Replies: @Cromwellforever

    Based on my anecdotal experience it’s the opposite. I’ve known three transmen, including dating one, and all had big naturals they were disgusted by.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Cromwellforever

    TMI

  55. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m all for repentance…. indeed, I’m totally for it.
    But it needs to hinge on being able to understand and articulate what you have done wrong and why it was wrong.
    Anyone “educated professional” who has chopped off the breasts of a confused young woman deserves the maximum pain that society can inflict.
    There is a time for HATE.

  56. @Cromwellforever
    @james wilson

    Based on my anecdotal experience it's the opposite. I've known three transmen, including dating one, and all had big naturals they were disgusted by.

    Replies: @IHTG

    TMI

  57. @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't mind what adults do to their own bodies. If people really want to mutilate themselves, well I think that is a very bad idea in the vast majority of cases, but is it my business at the end of the day to tell them what they can or cannot do? Though it might be a social problem if it starts to become an epidemic...

    However, I also don't get then why we don't legalize almost drugs. At least you can get on a rehab program if you get hooked, whereas once you chop off your dick or your boobs, then that's it, it's something you have to live with forever (or not, given their suicide rates). I allow that "transition" really might might help some small percentage of people who are convinced that they live in the wrong body from a psychological standpoint, but you can say the same with many drugs. In fact, I suspect that LSD micro-dosing would probably benefit quite a large percentage of people.

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more "radical" and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    Moreover, since even children can "transition" in many Western countries - something that for the record strikes me as systemically evil - then by the same logic you should not have any issues with kindergarten coke parties and the like. I obviously don't support that, but what's the functional difference? (apart from the latter being temporary affairs).

    Replies: @El Dato, @ic1000, @anon

    But wouldn’t people supporting unrestrained body transformations not eventually also be for kindergarten coke parties?

    It’s just a matter of time. Once more onto the breach etc.

  58. @JohnnyWalker123
    3 plastic surgeries that everyone should get.

    1. Rhinoplasty
    2. Hair transplant
    3. Skin resurfacing

    If you can be anything in life, be physically attractive.

    Replies: @El Dato

    This is America!

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  59. @Steve Sailer
    @BB753

    No, autogynephilia fetishists tend to be high IQ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Clyde, @anon, @Anon, @BB753

    Are autogynephiliac male perverts really pushing women to chop off their breasts? Are female to male transexuals actually smart?

  60. @Anon
    I strongly suspect that a generation that grew up getting tattoos also decided--or grew used to--the notion that altering your body in a permanent way was normal. Tattooing really does look like a important precursor for developing this cultural shift, a gateway drug if you will.

    I'd like to know how many of those getting sex changes already have tattoos.

    Replies: @BB753

    Some deranged minds end up transitioning to a different species ( mentally). It’s called transhumanism. Unless you want your conscience downloaded into a computer or AI. That’s the extreme stuff some aging nerds are into.
    Here’s a genderless reptile who used to be a plain HIV positive homosexual. He gets extra intersectional points for being formerly Mexican, I guess. There’s plenty of iSteve content in this YouTube channel, if you have the stomach to watch these documentaries.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @BB753

    In the UK we have Dr Kevin Warwick of Reading University, who doesn't seem to be be a sexual deviant, at least in the way we've historically understood it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Warwick#Project_Cyborg


    Probably the most famous research undertaken by Warwick—and the origin of the nickname "Captain Cyborg" given to him by The Register—is the set of experiments known as Project Cyborg, in which an array was implanted into his arm, with the goal of him "becoming a cyborg".

    The first stage of Project Cyborg, which began on 24 August 1998, involved a simple RFID transmitter being implanted beneath Warwick's skin, which was used to control doors, lights, heaters, and other computer-controlled devices based on his proximity. He explained that the main purpose of this experiment was to test the limits of what the body would accept, and how easy it would be to receive a meaningful signal from the microprocessor.

    The second stage of the research involved a more complex neural interface, designed and built especially for the experiment by Dr. Mark Gasson and his team at the University of Reading. This device consisted of a BrainGate sensor, a silicon square about 3mm wide, connected to an external "gauntlet" that housed supporting electronics. It was implanted under local anaesthetic on 14 March 2002 at the Radcliffe Infirmary in Oxford, where it was interfaced directly into Warwick's nervous system via the median nerve in his left wrist. The microelectrode array that was inserted contained 100 electrodes, each the width of a human hair, of which 25 could be accessed at any one time, whereas the nerve that was being monitored carries many times that number of signals. The experiment proved successful, and the output signals were detailed enough to enable a robot arm, developed by Warwick's colleague Dr. Peter Kyberd, to mimic the actions of Warwick's own arm.

    By means of the implant, Warwick's nervous system was connected to the Internet at Columbia University, New York. From there he was able to control the robot arm at the University of Reading and obtain feedback from sensors in the finger tips. He also successfully connected ultrasonic sensors on a baseball cap and experienced a form of extrasensory input.

    In a highly publicised extension to the experiment, a simpler array was implanted into the arm of Warwick's wife, with the ultimate aim of one day creating a form of telepathy or empathy using the Internet to communicate the signal over huge distances. This experiment resulted in the first direct and purely electronic communication between the nervous systems of two humans.

    Finally, the effect of the implant on Warwick's hand function was measured using the University of Southampton's Hand Assessment Procedure (SHAP). There was a fear that directly interfacing with the nervous system might cause some form of damage or interference, but no measurable side effect (nor any sign of rejection) was encountered. In fact, it was observed that nerve tissue grew around the electrode array, enclosing the sensor.
     

    Didn't know this was a thing - fitting tracking devices to humans or their jewellery.

    A controversy began in August 2002, shortly after the Soham murders, when Warwick reportedly offered to implant a tracking device into an 11-year-old girl as an anti-abduction measure. The plan produced a mixed reaction, with endorsement from many worried parents but ethical concerns from children's societies. As a result, the idea did not go ahead.

    Anti-theft RFID chips are common in jewellery or clothing in some Latin American countries due to a high abduction rate, and the company VeriChip announced plans in 2001 to expand its line of available medical information implants to be GPS trackable when combined with a separate GPS device.
     

  61. @SimpleSong
    So.. just some comments on the economics of surgery...from a financial perspective, these cases are like a dream come true for plastic surgeons, for the following reasons.

    As a surgeon you are typically paid a semi-fixed amount for a surgery, which includes the preoperative visits and the follow up, either in the office or in the hospital while recovering. (If they recover in the hospital, the hospital is paid separately for the stay, as well as for the use of their ORs and staff.) From this fixed amount you pay your billing fees, malpractice insurance, and other assorted costs.

    Some of these surgeries will be on patients who have a variety of other health problems and you spend a lot of time on postoperative care, that you are not reimbursed for. Additionally, patients with other health problems are likelier to develop other surgical complications that, at minimum, require your time and attention, and may also precipitate a lawsuit or something similar. For example an obese patient with diabetes is going to be much more likely to have a wound infection than a slim patient.

    So your ideal surgical population would be young healthy patients with one specific surgical problem. Of course, these patients are very rare--after all they are young and healthy. But if you could build a practice that was all young and healthy, well, it would be extremely lucrative. On the other hand, if your practice was mostly the old and sick, it can be very stressful and not very lucrative.

    So of course there is a moral hazard in all this, that doctors can be inclined to over-diagnose and over treat the young and healthy (cough meniscectomies cough) . It is a problem, but there are some (imperfect) checks and balances built into the system to try to prevent this. Insurers will refuse to pay for procedures without a clear indication, even if both the patient and the surgeon want it. Often the decision about whether surgery is indicated is not even up to the surgeon--for example the radiologist (who is theoretically a disinterested third party) will determine if there is an appendicitis and basically tell the surgeon to operate. For plastic surgeries, the patients are paying out of pocket so cost becomes a factor. Lastly, usually people don't _want_ to have surgery if they can avoid it, and if they find out later that the indication was shaky, you may be in for a lawsuit, particularly if there were complications.

    So, 'top' surgery--god I hate that term, it sounds so unprofessional--anyway 'top' surgeries... 1.) Young and healthy patients. 2.) Relatively non-invasive surgery, relatively few complications afterward. 2.) Insurer pays, so patients are price-insensitive. 3.) Insurer is afraid to turn down claims based on shaky indications because trans activists are so vocal 4.) patients really want the surgery (or think they want it)

    So it's like a money spigot, with no off valve.

    Replies: @Nikolai Vladivostok, @anon

    Do you think there’s a risk of lawsuits down the track from patients who claim they were manipulated into it while minors? I keep expecting a tsunami of such lawsuits but they never seem to arrive.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Nikolai Vladivostok

    I'm not sure, but there are reasons to be skeptical. With the caveat that I'm not at all an expert on medical malpractice, off the top of my head...

    The first issue is that most states have limited damages due to psychological pain and suffering as part of medical malpractice suits. So, assuming that the surgeries were done technically correctly, this would likely be the only damages that one could award, and thus thus there may be a ceiling on claims too low to attract much interest from plaintiff's lawyers.

    Second issue is, frankly, that the trans lobby is reasonably powerful, and the homo lobby is astonishingly powerful, and both would fight something like this tooth and nail by whatever means they can muster. So plaintiff's layers may not want to get involved.

    Having said that, physicians are really risk averse, so if a few of these lawsuits got rolling it would really put a dent in these procedures. If state legislatures carved out some tort reform to specifically target these quacks it could really really make a difference; like, for example lifting ceilings on judgments, putting personal assets at risk beyond malpractice payouts, etc.

  62. @BB753
    @Anon

    Some deranged minds end up transitioning to a different species ( mentally). It's called transhumanism. Unless you want your conscience downloaded into a computer or AI. That's the extreme stuff some aging nerds are into.
    Here's a genderless reptile who used to be a plain HIV positive homosexual. He gets extra intersectional points for being formerly Mexican, I guess. There's plenty of iSteve content in this YouTube channel, if you have the stomach to watch these documentaries.
    https://youtu.be/e9HxE4ROUvM

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    In the UK we have Dr Kevin Warwick of Reading University, who doesn’t seem to be be a sexual deviant, at least in the way we’ve historically understood it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Warwick#Project_Cyborg

    Probably the most famous research undertaken by Warwick—and the origin of the nickname “Captain Cyborg” given to him by The Register—is the set of experiments known as Project Cyborg, in which an array was implanted into his arm, with the goal of him “becoming a cyborg”.

    The first stage of Project Cyborg, which began on 24 August 1998, involved a simple RFID transmitter being implanted beneath Warwick’s skin, which was used to control doors, lights, heaters, and other computer-controlled devices based on his proximity. He explained that the main purpose of this experiment was to test the limits of what the body would accept, and how easy it would be to receive a meaningful signal from the microprocessor.

    The second stage of the research involved a more complex neural interface, designed and built especially for the experiment by Dr. Mark Gasson and his team at the University of Reading. This device consisted of a BrainGate sensor, a silicon square about 3mm wide, connected to an external “gauntlet” that housed supporting electronics. It was implanted under local anaesthetic on 14 March 2002 at the Radcliffe Infirmary in Oxford, where it was interfaced directly into Warwick’s nervous system via the median nerve in his left wrist. The microelectrode array that was inserted contained 100 electrodes, each the width of a human hair, of which 25 could be accessed at any one time, whereas the nerve that was being monitored carries many times that number of signals. The experiment proved successful, and the output signals were detailed enough to enable a robot arm, developed by Warwick’s colleague Dr. Peter Kyberd, to mimic the actions of Warwick’s own arm.

    By means of the implant, Warwick’s nervous system was connected to the Internet at Columbia University, New York. From there he was able to control the robot arm at the University of Reading and obtain feedback from sensors in the finger tips. He also successfully connected ultrasonic sensors on a baseball cap and experienced a form of extrasensory input.

    In a highly publicised extension to the experiment, a simpler array was implanted into the arm of Warwick’s wife, with the ultimate aim of one day creating a form of telepathy or empathy using the Internet to communicate the signal over huge distances. This experiment resulted in the first direct and purely electronic communication between the nervous systems of two humans.

    Finally, the effect of the implant on Warwick’s hand function was measured using the University of Southampton’s Hand Assessment Procedure (SHAP). There was a fear that directly interfacing with the nervous system might cause some form of damage or interference, but no measurable side effect (nor any sign of rejection) was encountered. In fact, it was observed that nerve tissue grew around the electrode array, enclosing the sensor.

    Didn’t know this was a thing – fitting tracking devices to humans or their jewellery.

    A controversy began in August 2002, shortly after the Soham murders, when Warwick reportedly offered to implant a tracking device into an 11-year-old girl as an anti-abduction measure. The plan produced a mixed reaction, with endorsement from many worried parents but ethical concerns from children’s societies. As a result, the idea did not go ahead.

    Anti-theft RFID chips are common in jewellery or clothing in some Latin American countries due to a high abduction rate, and the company VeriChip announced plans in 2001 to expand its line of available medical information implants to be GPS trackable when combined with a separate GPS device.

  63. @anon
    @J.Ross

    Onlyfans

    This seemed like an urbane legend so of course I czeched and it's true...but not until 1 October.

    https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-bans-explicit-content/


    It’s a serious question whether OnlyFans will be able to survive this transition in any recognizable form. The choice to abandon their most lucrative and loyal segment of customers and creators may poison the well, with others declining to rely on a platform that failed to support others. Investors, once wary of the risk of putting money into a sex-adjacent product, may now be wary of paying to board a sinking ship. That $1 billion valuation may be farther away than ever.
     
    For those who prefer the tl;dr, TMZ also has the story.

    https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/19/onlyfans-ban-porn-october-change-pornography/

    The company says the ban on sexually explicit content is going in to effect Oct. 1 ... and seemingly blames the decision on outside pressure, saying it's making the big change to get in line with requests from banking partners and payout providers.

    The company says it's got to evolve to "ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, and continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans."
     

    Replies: @Dissident

    This seemed like an urbane legend so of course I czeched and it’s true

    If a given work is sufficiently urbane, wouldn’t that suggest that it is more one of erotica than porn?

    Besides often undeniable artistic and literary merit, erotica of the drawn and written variety has the redeeming quality of not requiring the exploitation, harm or placing-at-risk of any actual, living beings.

    From Fanny Hill and Avril, to Debbie Does Dallas, to the present…no plots or story lines; no artistic or aesthetic standards; performers liable to literally be the girl or guy next-door…To what further depths might we yet descend?

    Not sure where the Czechs fit into any of this.

    NOTE: Any and all personal familiarity by the author with the subject matter in question that may be implied through this comment was acquired with clinical detachment, solely in his role as social commentator.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    I had to look up "natal" and the woke first entry told me that "biological male" is in some way offensive, so that's why we use "natal". Got it.

    As a parent who sympathizes, and I sure do too, could you possibly see the dilemma for parents who don't want their kids to be jabbed with not-yet-proven-out vaccines for a disease that doesn't much affect them? They want some control of the matter, just like parents of these unfortunate girls ought to have had.

    I hope you stay on this story, Steve.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    The local press here in the 413 is especially stressing the “kids getting the Delta” angle. In addition to a majority of Western MA towns reinstituting indoor mask mandates, most school districts are announcing that, while they’ll be open in person this fall, all employees and students will have to wear the face diaper of obedience. The Massachusetts Teachers ( it pains me to admit I don’t know if there’s an apostrophe there) Association is putting pressure on Governor Charlie “Parker” (RINO, MA) to make the mask requirement state-wide. My best guess is he folds.

    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in- I’ve gotten 5 emails and a phone call so far, it wouldn’t surprise me to find I have to submit a pint of blood- or discover half way down that the show’s been cancelled.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson


    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in...
     
    You need a miracle!

    (Hey, still got one of those old signs, Mr. G?)

    Replies: @Ganderson

  65. @SimpleSong
    So.. just some comments on the economics of surgery...from a financial perspective, these cases are like a dream come true for plastic surgeons, for the following reasons.

    As a surgeon you are typically paid a semi-fixed amount for a surgery, which includes the preoperative visits and the follow up, either in the office or in the hospital while recovering. (If they recover in the hospital, the hospital is paid separately for the stay, as well as for the use of their ORs and staff.) From this fixed amount you pay your billing fees, malpractice insurance, and other assorted costs.

    Some of these surgeries will be on patients who have a variety of other health problems and you spend a lot of time on postoperative care, that you are not reimbursed for. Additionally, patients with other health problems are likelier to develop other surgical complications that, at minimum, require your time and attention, and may also precipitate a lawsuit or something similar. For example an obese patient with diabetes is going to be much more likely to have a wound infection than a slim patient.

    So your ideal surgical population would be young healthy patients with one specific surgical problem. Of course, these patients are very rare--after all they are young and healthy. But if you could build a practice that was all young and healthy, well, it would be extremely lucrative. On the other hand, if your practice was mostly the old and sick, it can be very stressful and not very lucrative.

    So of course there is a moral hazard in all this, that doctors can be inclined to over-diagnose and over treat the young and healthy (cough meniscectomies cough) . It is a problem, but there are some (imperfect) checks and balances built into the system to try to prevent this. Insurers will refuse to pay for procedures without a clear indication, even if both the patient and the surgeon want it. Often the decision about whether surgery is indicated is not even up to the surgeon--for example the radiologist (who is theoretically a disinterested third party) will determine if there is an appendicitis and basically tell the surgeon to operate. For plastic surgeries, the patients are paying out of pocket so cost becomes a factor. Lastly, usually people don't _want_ to have surgery if they can avoid it, and if they find out later that the indication was shaky, you may be in for a lawsuit, particularly if there were complications.

    So, 'top' surgery--god I hate that term, it sounds so unprofessional--anyway 'top' surgeries... 1.) Young and healthy patients. 2.) Relatively non-invasive surgery, relatively few complications afterward. 2.) Insurer pays, so patients are price-insensitive. 3.) Insurer is afraid to turn down claims based on shaky indications because trans activists are so vocal 4.) patients really want the surgery (or think they want it)

    So it's like a money spigot, with no off valve.

    Replies: @Nikolai Vladivostok, @anon

    Isn’t it pretty hard to sue for malpractice on contigency anymore? I was under the impression that doctors at this point are wise to the specific verbiage they must put in the chart to absolve themselves of a patient who is high risk/noncompliant

  66. @Nikolai Vladivostok
    @SimpleSong

    Do you think there's a risk of lawsuits down the track from patients who claim they were manipulated into it while minors? I keep expecting a tsunami of such lawsuits but they never seem to arrive.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    I’m not sure, but there are reasons to be skeptical. With the caveat that I’m not at all an expert on medical malpractice, off the top of my head…

    The first issue is that most states have limited damages due to psychological pain and suffering as part of medical malpractice suits. So, assuming that the surgeries were done technically correctly, this would likely be the only damages that one could award, and thus thus there may be a ceiling on claims too low to attract much interest from plaintiff’s lawyers.

    Second issue is, frankly, that the trans lobby is reasonably powerful, and the homo lobby is astonishingly powerful, and both would fight something like this tooth and nail by whatever means they can muster. So plaintiff’s layers may not want to get involved.

    Having said that, physicians are really risk averse, so if a few of these lawsuits got rolling it would really put a dent in these procedures. If state legislatures carved out some tort reform to specifically target these quacks it could really really make a difference; like, for example lifting ceilings on judgments, putting personal assets at risk beyond malpractice payouts, etc.

  67. @Anon
    It isn't just women with gender dysphoria having breast reduction surgery.


    In college I had a girlfriend with obscenely inflated secondary sexual characteristics. Slim waist, huge ass and thighs, and absolutely enormous, 44E breasts. She her breasts reduced because she genuinely hated them.


    She kept the booty though. I honestly don't think women like having large breasts. It just isn't in vogue. Nipples also seem to be more important for attractiveness. I bet a lot of women try to get nipple enlargement surgery, and we all know how popular areola tattooing is. Doesn't matter if you have big tits if they sag and your nipples are invisible and unpalpable.

    Replies: @anonymous, @TheOldWay, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Can I get her number?

  68. @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't mind what adults do to their own bodies. If people really want to mutilate themselves, well I think that is a very bad idea in the vast majority of cases, but is it my business at the end of the day to tell them what they can or cannot do? Though it might be a social problem if it starts to become an epidemic...

    However, I also don't get then why we don't legalize almost drugs. At least you can get on a rehab program if you get hooked, whereas once you chop off your dick or your boobs, then that's it, it's something you have to live with forever (or not, given their suicide rates). I allow that "transition" really might might help some small percentage of people who are convinced that they live in the wrong body from a psychological standpoint, but you can say the same with many drugs. In fact, I suspect that LSD micro-dosing would probably benefit quite a large percentage of people.

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more "radical" and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    Moreover, since even children can "transition" in many Western countries - something that for the record strikes me as systemically evil - then by the same logic you should not have any issues with kindergarten coke parties and the like. I obviously don't support that, but what's the functional difference? (apart from the latter being temporary affairs).

    Replies: @El Dato, @ic1000, @anon

    > I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more “radical” and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    An excellent point that I haven’t seen explored in the mainstream media. (Although the fawning coverage of Drag Queen Story Time At The Library has convinced me of that policy’s benefits for pre-teens.)

    It’s perhaps similar to the posture that global-warming Alarmists (their self-description) should have towards nuclear power. Since our planet warming by 8 C (etc.) over the next century is an existential crisis, in a way that Fukushima, Chernobyl, etc. are not.

    A few of the Alarmists have arrived at this position, to their credit. But it’s a small minority.

  69. @Alfa158
    @Clyde

    How dare you insult General Miley Cyrus’s competence? Have you seen all the salad on his uniform? He wouldn’t have won all that unless he had crushed more enemies than Genghiz Khan, Marshall Zhukov, and General Eisenhower put together.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Compare the “fruit salads” of General David Petraeus, who fought no enemy who could defeat his forces, and Admiral Raymond Spruance, veteran of both World Wars.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.m7XY4n_QN5HS7IrtrdRx7wHaEx%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seaforces.org%2Fusnships%2Fddg%2FDDG-111_DAT%2FRaymond-Ames-Spruance-pic002.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

    The modern flag officer’s decorations are something right out of HMS Pinafore!

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Brutusale

    That idiot Ukrainian Vindaman had similar decorations.

  70. @anonymous
    @Anon

    Funny you should mention breast reductions. Recently I've noticed a lot of celebratory commentary about breast reduction surgeries. The latest was Rachel Bloom from Crazy Ex-girlfriend. She was busty at maybe a DD but not insanely big to merit a reduction.

    Do I detect an undercurrent of misandry in this pro-reduction rhetoric lately? Yes I do. I get the sense that underlying this is the notion that anything that could possibly bring joy to a cisgender heterosexual male somewhere is suspect and probably needs to go.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Nah, big boobs can really get in the way. Anyone spending any significant time with a woman with large breasts knows the complaints.

    I dated a girl in college whose breasts were 38GG. Her boobs were bigger than my head! She had them reduced to DD as soon as her doctor deemed her old enough. My ex-wife was a 36DD. Back problems led her to get a reduction to a C cup shortly after we divorced. She’s quite pleased not to pinch a boob under her arm anymore when she rolls over while sleeping!

    But as the great Heinlein wrote, if the question is why, then the answer is $$$. When the girlfriend was a young nurse, she used to give hormone shots to the trannies seeing a doc at the old City Hospital getting facial feminization surgury. He did a great business, as it was cash on the barrelhead, not covered by insurance. She said that the doc was going to retire a few years ago, but now that all this trannie crap is covered by insurance now, he decided to soldier on. His business is more lucrative than ever.

    You get more of whatever you subsidize.

  71. @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't mind what adults do to their own bodies. If people really want to mutilate themselves, well I think that is a very bad idea in the vast majority of cases, but is it my business at the end of the day to tell them what they can or cannot do? Though it might be a social problem if it starts to become an epidemic...

    However, I also don't get then why we don't legalize almost drugs. At least you can get on a rehab program if you get hooked, whereas once you chop off your dick or your boobs, then that's it, it's something you have to live with forever (or not, given their suicide rates). I allow that "transition" really might might help some small percentage of people who are convinced that they live in the wrong body from a psychological standpoint, but you can say the same with many drugs. In fact, I suspect that LSD micro-dosing would probably benefit quite a large percentage of people.

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization. Both concern bodily autonomy, with the exception that transexualism is a far more "radical" and irreversible intervention than the consumption of just about any drug.

    Moreover, since even children can "transition" in many Western countries - something that for the record strikes me as systemically evil - then by the same logic you should not have any issues with kindergarten coke parties and the like. I obviously don't support that, but what's the functional difference? (apart from the latter being temporary affairs).

    Replies: @El Dato, @ic1000, @anon

    I am consequently quite curious as to why people who support the transexual agenda are not also extremely strong and energetic supporters of across the board drug legalization.

    A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
    –Ralph Waldo Emerson

  72. Thanks, Steve. The descent into madness on one graph.

  73. @Altai
    I get the feeling that plastic surgeons weren't, on the whole, likely to have been the most conscientious people in the world and probably opened up as soon as legally possible. But it's shocking how the trend line is totally unfazed.

    What's interesting is the incline in 2017. Did Der Trumpening cause such a rupture on social media that things kicked up a gear that much? It wasn't just anti-Trumpism but generalised Tumblrist ideals and 'wokeness' being stoked by the media and on Twitter to cause a surge of 'Aidens'. Did the media's portrayal of Trump is a menacing pussy-grabbing monster trigger PTSD in young women with issues relating to sexual assault who subsequently wanted to neuter their female sexuality? A kind of middle class adolescent BPD/anxious white girl version of the little black girl screaming and being afraid of the evil man from TV coming into her classroom.

    Anyway, you can see the kind of very stable and very masculine girls doing this to themselves on their subreddits.

    **Be warned there are a lot of images of their 'top surgeries'. They're really going at it.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/

    Anyway who wants to claim this isn't just a novel presentation of BPD need only take a look at them.

    https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/ftm
    Users of r/FTM are over 6 times more likely than average to also be users of r/BPD.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Plastic surgery is also a field which is disproportionately black, as it has a reputation for being both more lucrative and less demanding than other medical specializations.

  74. @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The local press here in the 413 is especially stressing the “kids getting the Delta” angle. In addition to a majority of Western MA towns reinstituting indoor mask mandates, most school districts are announcing that, while they’ll be open in person this fall, all employees and students will have to wear the face diaper of obedience. The Massachusetts Teachers ( it pains me to admit I don’t know if there’s an apostrophe there) Association is putting pressure on Governor Charlie “Parker” (RINO, MA) to make the mask requirement state-wide. My best guess is he folds.

    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in- I’ve gotten 5 emails and a phone call so far, it wouldn’t surprise me to find I have to submit a pint of blood- or discover half way down that the show’s been cancelled.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in…

    You need a miracle!

    (Hey, still got one of those old signs, Mr. G?)

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At the show. Little Johnny had a little trouble finding his groove, but was rockin by the end of the first set- Casey Jones, not my favorite tune, but an outstanding version.

    Eagerly awaiting set II

    PS never had a sign, never owned a Dead t-shirt. If I ever would it would be the ice cream kid.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  75. @Brutusale
    @Alfa158

    Compare the "fruit salads" of General David Petraeus, who fought no enemy who could defeat his forces, and Admiral Raymond Spruance, veteran of both World Wars.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.m7XY4n_QN5HS7IrtrdRx7wHaEx%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seaforces.org%2Fusnships%2Fddg%2FDDG-111_DAT%2FRaymond-Ames-Spruance-pic002.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

    The modern flag officer's decorations are something right out of HMS Pinafore!

    Replies: @Ganderson

    That idiot Ukrainian Vindaman had similar decorations.

  76. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson


    Off to see Dead and Co at Citi Field in NYC tonight- one has to prove double vax status to get in...
     
    You need a miracle!

    (Hey, still got one of those old signs, Mr. G?)

    Replies: @Ganderson

    At the show. Little Johnny had a little trouble finding his groove, but was rockin by the end of the first set- Casey Jones, not my favorite tune, but an outstanding version.

    Eagerly awaiting set II

    PS never had a sign, never owned a Dead t-shirt. If I ever would it would be the ice cream kid.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson

    I hope you enjoyed Set II, Mr. Ganderson.

    Hey, got an idea - how about Steal Your Face Grateful Dead social distancing floor stickers? Twirling hippy chicks could sell them outside the show for tickets, keeping 6 ft. apart, of course.... wait.... "I need a miracle, every day!"

    Replies: @Ganderson

  77. @Anon
    It isn't just women with gender dysphoria having breast reduction surgery.


    In college I had a girlfriend with obscenely inflated secondary sexual characteristics. Slim waist, huge ass and thighs, and absolutely enormous, 44E breasts. She her breasts reduced because she genuinely hated them.


    She kept the booty though. I honestly don't think women like having large breasts. It just isn't in vogue. Nipples also seem to be more important for attractiveness. I bet a lot of women try to get nipple enlargement surgery, and we all know how popular areola tattooing is. Doesn't matter if you have big tits if they sag and your nipples are invisible and unpalpable.

    Replies: @anonymous, @TheOldWay, @Hapalong Cassidy

    I believe the term we are all looking for is “humblebragging”.

  78. @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    At the show. Little Johnny had a little trouble finding his groove, but was rockin by the end of the first set- Casey Jones, not my favorite tune, but an outstanding version.

    Eagerly awaiting set II

    PS never had a sign, never owned a Dead t-shirt. If I ever would it would be the ice cream kid.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I hope you enjoyed Set II, Mr. Ganderson.

    Hey, got an idea – how about Steal Your Face Grateful Dead social distancing floor stickers? Twirling hippy chicks could sell them outside the show for tickets, keeping 6 ft. apart, of course…. wait…. “I need a miracle, every day!”

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Boffo!

  79. @Gordo
    Someone I was at school with, in the 1970s, died of cancer recently, his treatment was disrupted by COVID lockdown.

    Sick of all this.

    Replies: @theMann

    Add another murder to the list of crimes the CoronaFraudsters have committed.

    Do something about it.

  80. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ganderson

    I hope you enjoyed Set II, Mr. Ganderson.

    Hey, got an idea - how about Steal Your Face Grateful Dead social distancing floor stickers? Twirling hippy chicks could sell them outside the show for tickets, keeping 6 ft. apart, of course.... wait.... "I need a miracle, every day!"

    Replies: @Ganderson

    Boffo!

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