The Unz Review: An Alternative Media Selection
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
"American Civil Liberties" Aren't What They Used to be
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

From ACLU.org:

A GLOBAL MASS MOVEMENT FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

This century will know no greater mass movement than the struggle for reparations. It is no longer a matter of if, but when.

By Hilary Beckles

At the 2001 United Nations Conference on Race and Xenophobia in Durban, South Africa, it was evident that the reparations struggle would evolve into the greatest and most transforming political and moral movement of the 21st century. The evidence rises like the morning sun every day to solidify this truth. Enlightenment follows where ever this discourse is raised and demands are made. The world it seems, after centuries of hosting and harboring the greatest human crimes and criminals, is now ready to make up its mind.

Chickens of this character never come home to roost. They have to be pursued and forced to face the light of the new dawn. There is no container on Earth large enough to conceal the dust and debris of the crime. Beneficiaries enriched by slave-based economies and societies and their descendants and inheritors have always wished to discredit and bury the evidence.

The ACLU has lost a lot of its mojo relative to the SPLC and the ADL in recent decades, but Reparations sounds like a way to get media buzz back.

 
• Tags: World War R 
Hide 99 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
    []
  1. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:

    Reparations for Palestinians who lost their homeland to Zionists.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Cortes
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @ATBOTL
  2. “Beneficiaries enriched by slave-based economies and societies”

    Oh, so you mean like all of Islam. And all of Africa. And millennia of expert praxis by Our Best Friends Forever.

    This should get amusing.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @guest
  3. Why will only certain “beneficiaries” descendants and inheritors be forced to pay up?
    Bet there’ll be a lot of great-great-great-great-grandfather was being abused in Europe, but came to the USA for reasons, but we didn’t benefit from no slavery, so we don’t have to pay up.

  4. Alfa158 says:

    That was hilarious, it reads like something written by a propagandist in Soviet Russia who has just done about 14 vodka shots. Global eh? In that case Beckles should present the bill to the people who are going to be holding the biggest chunk of the world’s economic wealth, the Chinese. They usually enjoy a good laugh.

  5. Apollo says:

    Just the next in a long line of attempts to try and conjure up enough support to give from the productive to the unproductive. These come a dime a dozen.

  6. “American Civil Liberties” Aren’t What They Used to be

    No. They’ve become Civil Liabilities.

    • LOL: Hypnotoad666
    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Hypnotoad666
  7. “We can totally vote our way out of this. Also don’t you dare touch my 401k.”

    T. Boomer

    • Agree: L Woods
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  8. anon[544] • Disclaimer says:

    Hunker down, World War R is rushing at us. Noble POCs allied with sacred Indigenous peoples slaughtering the zombie whites in Righteous Indignation. A genocidal fantasy.

    WW R 2.0, really. I remember that TV documentary, “First Rising: The Black and the Gray” when millions of blacks in the Americas mobilized to defeat the racist whites. Millions died. 100,ooo died in the Battle of Winnipeg alone. The Fall of Nome was even more horrific. A 19th century Stalingrad.

  9. Some of us always knew that the ACLU was just a front organization for people who were really just hostile to America.

    Now it’s not even hidden by a front anymore.

  10. gibsmedat is the human rights issue of our time

  11. SFG says:

    There used to be an old joke about libertarians being the only people with ACLU and NRA memberships. They’re going to need a new liberal organization for that one now.

  12. istevefan says:

    They are going to keep pushing this so long as they can get away with it. And they have been getting away with it for quite some time. So much so that they have radically altered the demographics of the European old and new world in a manner never before seen. And they have accomplished it without military force, without a mass plague like the Black Death, and with a population, in America at least, that is the most heavily armed civilian population in history.

    I have wondered whether contemporary Europeans (old and new world) would eventually snap like the 1930s Germans and go medieval on those they perceived as having wronged them. However, it appears that rather than the Germans of the 1930s, we are more like the Jews of that era. We are in some sort of denial that our existence is at stake, and are headed towards demographic oblivion as easily as they were headed off to the camps.

    Of course the Jews eventually broke through their sleepwalk and staged the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Though it is not even worth mentioning for its military effect, about 100 dead Germans in a war where millions died, it did mark a change in mindset for the Jewish people that carried over to the attitudes seen in modern day Israel.

    Will we ever snap like those Germans? Will we ever have our Warsaw Ghetto Uprising moment? At this point I am worried that we will just sit back and allow millennia of history to be nullified within the lifespan of one human being.

    I was really hoping Trump was going to be the standard-bearer in turning things around. But I have lost hope in him. And yes, we need prominent people to take part in any movement. Do you think the American Revolution could have happened without elites like Washington and Jefferson taking a leading role?

    I think people know what I am writing about. None of us nobodies wants to step out and get pummeled or ostracized from society where you cannot make a living. Yet, if we were confident that 10,000 or more folks like us would show up to a protest, we’d probably go. No one wants to show up and be one out of 10 guys protesting while being attacked by 500 antifa.

    That’s why we need prominent people to lead the way. People we can rally around that will help provide cover to get the ball rolling. Like I wrote, I thought it would be Trump, but that is not the case.

    What is it going to take? As Sailer once wrote, the guy who adopts the immigration issue is like the guy picking up the $100 bill just laying on the ground. The guy who can successfully lead the movement to halt the destruction of the European world likewise is the one who picks up the $1000 bill laying on the ground. That guy would go down in history as a Washington, Martel, Napoleon, etc. He would be remembered forever. Historically, most prominent men would welcome such an opportunity for immortality. Why no takers today?

  13. Jack D says:

    Professor Sir Hilary Beckles to you:

    https://www.jbdc.net/eec/speaker/professor-sir-hilary-beckles/

    Hilary used he/him pronouns. I thought Hilary was a chick name, but no.

    West Indians have been spout this kind of crap off since Marcus Garvey (my they are long winded) but serious white organizations didn’t use to take what happened in Coontown seriously.

    What does this have to do with the mission of the ACLU? Remind me not to send the ACLU their annual contribution this year (that will make 41 consecutive years that I have skipped).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jackmaninov
  14. “Chickens of this character never come home to roost. They have to be pursued and forced to face the light of the new dawn.”

    • Replies: @Lot
  15. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Congratulations, Reg Caesar, on recently surpassing the million-word mark.

    19,511 Comments • 1,000,900 Words

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. A GLOBAL MASS MOVEMENT FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

    This century will know no greater mass movement than the struggle for reparations. It is no longer a matter of if, but when.

    Etc., etc., …

    I put this through my proprietary Wokeness-to-succinct-English converter and it came out as

    “The rising tide of color against white world-supremacy is real.”

    Hmm. Where did I hear that before?

  17. @Hail

    Thanks. I think those counts may be inflated, though, by quotes, links, and what-not. I was expecting to hit the mark on Independence Day.

    It also came on a late relative’s 75th birthday. Vietnam…

    How many have preceded me?

  18. @istevefan

    Because Globohomo is going to crush any resistance, that’s why.

    You’re looking for Daddy to turn back the clock and unring the bell that’s been going on since the Western World killed itself in the mid 1940s. It ain’t happening, and to be fair it ain’t just you: its many commenters and especially Steve who thinks that “Golly gee, if I just vote in Senpai Carlson/Coulter/Kobach/Miller then Senpai will make it alright!”

    Nope. Not gonna happen. So many of you are crossing fingers for a man with a white horse who is going to be the perfect mix of charisma intelligence and cunning that he’ll be able to fix everything without anything as icky as a lil bit of civil strife and we can go back to Steve’s 60s Endless Summer.

    Not happening. The system is now diverted to hate YT and sucking as much GDP out of the people as possible before it all comes crashing down.

    So whattaya gonna do? Some of you are already laying down waiting to be frog marched off to a labor camp, posting pithy blogs to the last. Some of us have other plans that include things like getting to know your neighbors and figuring out if they’re the type to turn your cul de sac into a bloodbath as a warning when the Goodthink Auxillary Brigade shows up to take your kids because you posted a negative comment about Desmond is AMAZING on faceberg, or if they are basic bugpeople.

    Choose wisely!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  19. Lot says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    When I lived in farm country the chickens didn’t need to be “forced to face the light of the new dawn.” More like the roosters forced everyone else to.

  20. JimB says:

    It’s only a matter of time before Chinese political power, backed by wealthy Chinese donors, dwarfs black and Hispanic political influence. My prediction is that the first Chinese-American US President will reinstitute civil service exams to improve government efficiency. And you know what that means. No more waiting in line at the DMV!

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  21. SFG says:
    @istevefan

    1. Because ‘literally Hitler’. Nazis gave the whole thing a bad name by starting the largest war in human history. Doesn’t help when the people you tried to kill own the newspapers.

    2. Really, how are you going to do this in an age of vast geographic mixing and nuclear weapons? What part of the country do whites get? What part do Hispanics get? What part do blacks get? What about Hispanics who look pretty white or even are white? What about Asians? What about half Asians? How do you find everyone who’s 1/4 Jewish? What if they’re just Italian and look Jewish? Is 23andme going to help you out on this?

    What if people refuse to move? Who is going to force them? How do you keep the units forcing them together? How do you select racially pure units willing to do this?

    What happens to all the businesses with mixed workforces? They have to reestablish all their supply chains with other businesses with matching groups?

    Of course you could just wait for the bullets to start flying, in which case there won’t be enough left of the country to be worth picking up afterward. Not to mention someone is going to get hold of the nukes.

    The groups are way too mixed together to make different nations at this point–this isn’t Serbia, Croatia, and Bosnia (and even there they had a bloody civil war that wrecked the country).

    Much as it seems like America is divided into alt-right and SJW camps on the Internet, in real life there’s a huge middle mass that wishes the culture war would go away and everyone would shut up. There was a big Pew survey that showed something like 60% of the country hates PC and racism.

    To clarify, I’d rather see as white a majority as possible. But the answer (IMHO) is not some ‘Saxon began to hate’ race war everyone is going to lose, but slamming shut the gates and assimilating everyone as much as possible.

  22. I’ve seen calls for reparations for: Mexicans for the land the US “stole” from them, LBGTQERTY for the financial costs associated with not being able to marry, for feather Indians, etc. No doubt Chinese railroad workers, Jewish “holocaust” survivors, etc., are not far behind. Soon “reparations” will be UBI for everyone but straight whites. Welcome to our new country.

  23. Those mixed metaphors are as useless as tits on a boar running the wrong way down a one-way street paved with good intentions.

  24. @SFG

    “There was a big Pew survey that showed something like 60% of the country hates PC and racism.”

    Well there was a survey, that settles it I guess.

    What Borzoi calls “Grill Nationalism” is a real thing: “Don’t bother me! I just wanna grill!” is the Boomer battlecry of people that made horrible decisions that led us to this mess and now want to wash their hands of it.

    They are going to be forced to care. And yeah, we don’t have contiguous blocks of Serbs or Croats, we have the worldviews of I Deserve to Hold Your Leash vs. Leave Me Alone With Your Freakshow.

    These are two paradigms that cannot exist in the same space. In some places (Seattle, Wyoming) one is dominant. In others, (Phoenix, Michigan) the two are blended. Pretty sure having homogenous miles of territory loaded with co-ethnics is better than Oak Street trying their damndest to take out Pine Lane because of outlook.

    “Assimilate everyone as fast as possible and slam the gates shut.” Might as well wish for a unicorn. That. Is Not. Happening. You can handwave away the fact the center cannot hold, close your ears and shout “LOL NICE FANFICTION” but what’s coming down the pipe is warband culture, plain and simple. Anyone arguing that “just turn Somalis into 50s style Americans” is either a grifter, an idiot, or insane. Not someone you want with you in the foxhole.

    Trump was, paradoxically, a breathing space and a foot on the accelerator to Kali Yuga. I hope you’ve prepared. You re gonna need more than twee blogging for what’s next.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  25. “The ACLU has lost a lot of its mojo relative to the SPLC and the ADL in recent decades, but Reparations sounds like a way to get media buzz back.”

    however, they’re all about equally jewish at this point, so there’s that.

    more seriously, ACLU has mostly achieved their goal of legally bashing the united states into submission, so they have less of a mission statement anymore. left handed eskimo athiest transexuals can build statues of Satan outside any church they want now.

    ADL can take it from here. ACLU is ready to hand off the baton.

    general chart of jewishness: ACLU -> SPLC -> ADL

    in terms of how neutral their legal agenda is, ostensibly.

    ACLU – taking all kinds of cases all over the political spectrum, in a decades long campaign to make sure fat men with beards can take off their clothes and cover themselves in green jello yet also remain employed by Fortune 500 companies which are not allowed to fire them anymore.

    SPLC – fighting hate in general, which somehow always eventually turns into fighting one kind of ‘hate’

    ADL – fighting to make sure nobody can even question whether Jerry Nadler’s belt is a little too high on his huge gut, making him look like a portly clown dwarf. because that would be antisemitism. any criticism is antisemitism, bigot. stop dealing in canards.

  26. anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “Chickens of this character never come home to roost. They have to be pursued and forced to face the light of the new dawn. ”

    Pursue the enemy chickens at dawn! Holy shit, what happened to journalism?

    • Replies: @Logan
  27. Dr. X says:

    I hope the Democrats pass a law giving every black in America $1 million. Seriously.

    Nothing else is going to get whites woke enough to get the party started…

  28. Reparations, just cover, an excuse. Another way of dropping money out of Bernanke’s helicopter. Recipients did nothing to earn this windfall except be covered in brown skin. Not a reward for anything of value they added to today’s economy so this is just another attempt to spend our way out of debt with more borrowed money. How can this work out in the end? Unless of course, the actual intent is to bankrupt America.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  29. @Jack Hanson

    One way or the other, we’re all gonna take a ride on ol’ Meta/Physical (#134). Some will be left standing. Others will follow the Balancing Boomers: “awwwwoooouugghhh …”

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
  30. 216 says:
    @SFG

    When the USSR ended in ’91, the Russian populations settled in the ‘stans largely went back. If not for pressure from the West, the Russians probably would have been expelled from the Baltics.

    The easiest way to get people to leave is wrecking the economy, the recent arrivals have ties to the old country.

    The problem is the whole “wreck the economy” bit.

    Discussion of how partition would work logistically is not important. What is important is advocating that we have the inalienable right to national self-determination.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  31. @Jack D

    He certainly isn’t a Becky.

  32. Corvinus says:

    “The ACLU has lost a lot of its mojo relative…”

    According to Who/Whom?

  33. Bill P says:

    Historically, aren’t “reparations” and warfare intimately linked? If one group of people just starts stealing wholesale from another some fighting will inevitably break out.

    I’m not sure these blacks realize what they’re getting into here. If whites start getting taxed for reparations there’s going to be a very strong reaction that no amount of leftist BS in the media can quell.

  34. @istevefan

    And they have accomplished it without military force, without a mass plague like the Black Death, and with a population, in America at least, that is the most heavily armed civilian population in history.

    They’re playing Russian roulette with Chekhov’s Gun.

  35. Mr. Anon says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Some of us always knew that the ACLU was just a front organization for people who were really just hostile to America.

    Quite so. They don’t really believe in American Civil Liberties:

    https://www.aclu.org/other/second-amendment

    The ACLU has always been an essentially left-wing organization.

    • Replies: @peterike
  36. @SFG

    To address your concerns both practical and rhetorical: It would happen organically, i.e. by natural causes. All the fuel for a national conflagration is in place. It won’t be strictly a ‘race war’—various political/cultural concerns will also come into play.

    Scenario: The “control left”—in ongoing governmental and/or corporate power plays—goes too far in their agenda of ratcheting dominance. In retaliation, a ‘lone wolf’ (or wolves) attacks a significant target and a haphazard “bipartisan” clampdown starts. Events escalate, with multiple known and unknown actors on different sides taking direct action of various levels of competence.

    Alliances will converge (and separate) like globs in a lava lamp. Strict heredity tests will be less important than “Who can be trusted?” The centrist 60% gets caught up in the conflict and splinters off to align with belligerents holding shared identity, sentiments, or circumstances.

    slamming shut the gates and assimilating everyone as much as possible

    Too late to shut the gates—there are no gates (for now). But yes, assimilation will occur—the questions are: How aggressive the interpretation of the concept, and who assimilates whom?

    h/t @AndrewQuackson:

  37. MBlanc46 says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It should get amusing. But it won’t. If you’re not white, you’ll be alright.

  38. guest says:

    Who’s going to be doing all this historical accounting, and according to what standard? Because I think us Euro-descendents have more than recompensed by letting other parts of the world in on that Western teet.

    Meanwhile, as the Wretched of the Earth been runnin’ things, have you noticed their demands get bigger the more power they accrue? Almost as if they’re related. Everything you do, there’s a sequel and you gotta dance harder.

    Come tour with me through American history:

    Slavery abolished – blacks free to die in a ditch so long as they stay in their enclosures

    Suddenly we decide segregation is bad – here’s a slew of federal money, programs, and boosts

    A bunch more of the same, but weirder

    Nothing – herecomes the Great Gibsmedat, reparations

    2050 – Chinese laughter

  39. MBlanc46 says:
    @SFG

    Yeah, well you would say that, wouldn’t you?

  40. guest says:

    Who wrote this melted candycorn prose? It’s sub-8th grade poetry level.

    “Chickens of this character never come home to roost. They have to be pursued and forced to face the light of a new dawn.”

    Put aside the unpleasant image of forcing chickens to lay eggs. (Who are they, the Catholic Church tying pregnant women up to prevent them from visiting the friendly local abortionist?) I’m going to assume this roosting idiom was borrowed from Malcom X, whether intentionally or not, because that’s the aura of the piece.

    Just a reminder that X used it in reference to the JFK assassination. Meaning the ACLU wants to blow up our heads.

    • Replies: @sayless
  41. guest says:
    @SFG

    On what planet did Nazis start that war?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  42. guest says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I think it’s pretty much all of everybody. Unless they use a ridiculously narrow definition of slavery. For instance, “persons of vibrancy held in bondage by whites.”

  43. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    What is it going to take?

    It will take a real economic depression in this country, with most of the white people who are currently living a middle class life finding themselves on the street and starving.
    That cannot happen until the United States military is defeated overseas and has no power to stop China, Russia, etal. from running their own countries and regions as they see fit.
    Could be coming to a theater near you, maybe sooner, maybe later.

  44. This century will know no greater mass movement than the struggle for reparations.

    My money is on the mass movement of Africans to Europe and America, to be remembered as the greatest mass movement of the 21st century.

  45. @Almost Missouri

    You still gotta give them credit for stepping in on the side of the (lawful) rally in Charlottesville, inducing the city to allow the rally to go forward after the city at first withdrew its approval. (Of course, once the rally was underway, the city let Antifa attack the rally and the rest is history.)

  46. Beneficiaries enriched by slave-based economies

    As the last country in the world to officially ban slavery (that was 1981), you’d expect Mauritania to be spectacularly wealthy.
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jun/08/the-unspeakable-truth-about-slavery-in-mauritania

  47. @JimB

    NYT headline after President Chang’s proposed civil service examination bill:
    Are Blacks America’s Uighurs?

  48. Pericles says:
    @SFG

    What part of the country do … get? What part do … get? What part do … get? What about …? What about …? What about …? How do you …? What if …? Is 23andme going to …?

    What if …? Who is going to …? How do you …? How do you …?

    What happens to …?

    To clarify, I’d rather see as white a majority as possible. But the answer (IMHO) is not some ‘Saxon began to hate’ race war everyone is going to lose, but slamming shut the gates and assimilating everyone as much as possible.

    In other words, you have already lost. They invaded, they won. Thank you for your participation, but I’m afraid they get the prize. (However, (((some))) of you may be eligible for a special, invitation-only ceremony to be announced later.)

    PS. No gates will slam shut.

  49. @SFG

    You have an enormous lack of imagination and knowledge of historical precedent and parallel.

  50. El Dato says:

    Chickens of this character never come home to roost. They have to be pursued and forced to face the light of the new dawn. There is no container on Earth large enough to conceal the dust and debris of the crime. Beneficiaries enriched by slave-based economies and societies and their descendants and inheritors have always wished to discredit and bury the evidence.

    AI chaining meaningless Leninist phrases into a paragraph? It’s the only way to explain this bullshit.

    In the Americas, from Alaska to Argentina, every white-controlled society was determined to genocidally dispose of Indigenous people and to proceed to build social and production systems on the basis of African chattel enslavement.

    After conclusion of the successful Alaskan death camp program, there is now African chattel enslavement in the polar circle. The nooses around mooses give it away I guess.

    Black peoples’ courageous struggle for freedom post-Middle Passage, and their persistent demand for reparations, are more than sequential streams flowing toward an inevitable sea of justice. The mighty Atlantic that separates the old and new worlds could not absorb so much Black blood and remain just an ocean. No planet could absorb that much pain and remain the same. The global crime of Black enslavement converted the Atlantic into a theater where the epic drama for reparations will be staged.

    The Black Vibranium Dreadnoughts of the Great Wakandian Atlantic Fleet will hunt for reparations wherever they may hide, in the ocean that no longer is an ocean.

    Does the ACLU examine its writers for signs of psychosis?

  51. “This century will know no greater mass movement than the struggle for reparations. It is no longer a matter of if, but when.”

    Is that before or after the inevitable genocide.

  52. szopen says:

    Can’t wait when we Poles will get reparations from Turkey and other muslim countries for all those slave raids.

  53. El Dato says:
    @SFG

    Nazis gave the whole thing a bad name by starting the largest war in human history.

    And the “largest” part isn’t even true.

  54. @guest

    Basil Fawlty’s?

    • Replies: @guest
  55. Beneficiaries enriched by slave-based economies and societies and their descendants and inheritors have always wished to discredit and bury the evidence.

    So who gets the Pyramids?

  56. @El Dato

    Such grandiloquence that drives itself straight into a ditch (an ocean is a theater for a political struggle? ‘Neptune’s Follies present “Where My Money At?: A Reparations Dramatization!”‘), must have something to do with his cricket background. Possibly related to all the rubbing of the ball against one’s crotch.

    every white-controlled society was determined to genocidally dispose of Indigenous people

    Somebody please to be telling me, are the Arabs ‘indigenous’ to the Levant and North Africa? Or are they “fellow white people’ for the purposes of this harangue? What about the Mongols? Was the Bantu Expansion just a bunch of guys crashing on their friends’ couches? Does he know anything about Asia or the sub-continent?

  57. @Oleaginous Outrager

    “their descendants and inheritors have always wished to discredit and bury the evidence”

    I quite agree. Our Best Friends Forever hold world records for their skill at burying and deflecting the mountainous evidence of their central, overwhelming participation in and profit from slavery on five different continents.

    And when you consider just how much of centuries-old Jewish slavery profits were re-invested in usury and the creation of debt slavery…

    A global, 2000 percent tax on all worldwide Jewish wealth would be a decent place to start.

  58. dfordoom says: • Website
    @istevefan

    That’s why we need prominent people to lead the way.

    Prominent white people tend to be rich white people. And rich white people are doing just fine. Why would they want to lead a revolution against a system that has been so very good for them?

    • Replies: @istevefan
  59. notanon says:

    there’s a lot of potential takes on the reparations thing but most of them are based on accepting the premise that the people driving this are operating in good faith.

    what is actually happening is the banking mafia and their media are trying to create a civil conflict.

    if white people surrender to this then the media will just invent something worse and repeat.

    if white people peacefully refuse the media will use that to incite white children getting thrown off balconies or gang-stomped at school.

    so either way they’re going to keep pushing until America is on fire.

    and then?

    1) just chaos – no reason for any of it just paranoia destroying another civilization?

    2) split for Hong Kong with loot with the burning cities as cover – like it’s always been a giant cattle raid?

    3) once on fire invite Chinese troops to act as “peace keepers” aka “Gates of Toledo?”

    dunno

  60. KenH says:
    @istevefan

    Hitler and German’s hostility to the Jews didn’t occur in a vacuum. (((They))) were doing to Germany what they are doing to the U.S. and other Western nations today which is to say promoting far left wing, anti-nationalist political movements and degeneracy. It’s much worse today since Jews are promoting the mass importation of non-white racial aliens to a) interbreed with the white population and b) kill it off. This is truly a genocidal program and warrants an extreme reaction.

    But enough of Germany’s elite reacted against the dire threat to the German nation by backing Hitler and the National Socialists. Sadly, much of the U.S. and other white Western elites are corrupt to the core, pro-Jewish (or fear their power) and of a globalist and liberal worldview. I don’t know if it’s possible to right the ship without them but we’re going to have to try somehow if we are to survive.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  61. TheJester says:

    I see a more diabolical agenda than getting attention behind the ACLU lobbying for white people to pay reparations for slavery … and, I can guess, colonialism, wealth disparities, and general unlikeability, etc, etc, etc.

    The willingness of white people to pay out would be the Mark of Cain written on the forehead of every white person, including those yet to be born. It would be an admission of collective guilt, an admission that collective punishment is justified, and an admission that going forward, whites and their civilization can be “cashed out”, looted, or otherwise exploited at will.

    Going forward, whites would become a new caste of “untouchables” getting their just deserts. And once the blacks have established the precedent, Jews, as the paradigm case of victimization by whites for the ages (The Holocaust), they would be able to take their place in line for their perpetual race-based payouts.

    Gilad Atzmon has an interesting new piece in the Unz Review, “The Chosen-Mess,” on Jewish scams. This is backed by the Jewish cultural practice of Omertà … collective action on the part of Jews to hide or camouflage their crimes against humanity from the rest of humanity justified by their chosen-ness; that is, their Ideology of Election.

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-chosen-mess/

    Reparations should be on the list of scams.

  62. Steve wake up from the fainting couch and approve my comments.

    • LOL: jim jones
  63. @Almost Missouri

    I don’t agree, A.M. If it wasn’t on a Steve Sailer post in the past, maybe it was linked-to there, but I read about some of their cases in the past. I also was around and barely remember the Nazis in Skokie, Illinois deal. I think they were damn principled in the past, and I would not at all be surprised by a Libertarian (as stated by SFG, but no joke) having had both NRA and ACLU memberships … in the way past, though.

    The ACLU is hostile to America now, but I don’t know how long the transition has taken. It’s a different kind of mission creep, maybe just due to the donations being larger from the ctrl-left, and I could see that being a vicious (and I do mean VICIOUS) cycle.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @bomag
    , @Olorin
  64. @International Jew

    Yeah, I guess there is the occasional exercise in demonstrating that their name means something. But still my impression is that this is <1% of their effort, and then mainly for legitimizing the other 99%, such as the above call for genocide.

  65. @istevefan

    That’s another great comment, iSteveFan. Peak Stupidity has a 6-part series called “There’s Battle Lines Being Drawn” – Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, in which the power in numbers is the main point. It’s one of the things that can be learned from the protests of the 1960’s.

    One does tend to wonder why some otherwise-unimportant young man does not rise up with a following big enough not to be all jailed at one time, to lead a growing movement. Tommy Robinson over in England is somewhat of an example. The thing is, for the young people, they are not the boomers (per Jack Hanson) with their 401k’s. They really don’t have much to lose in this sad excuse for an economy we have now.

  66. I love all this REPARATIONS crud that is wafting about. The word wafting brings up the Germans, and the Germans — bless their hearts — know how to handle any and all incessant demands for reparations of one sort or another.

    You want your reparations for slavery? OKAY, you’ll get ’em.

    You want your reparations for WW I? OKAY, you’ll get ’em.

    Print up the frigging dollars and throw those bastards out of a helicopter — it’s what a young and frisky Ben Bernanke said could be one form of monetary extremism if all else failed.

    Conjure those phucking dollars up out of thin air and spread those bastards around like they do on corn fields with their so-called “bio-solids.” You don’t want to know what “bio-solids” are, it might ruin your taste for corn on the cob.

    This gets to my Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) Plan to give ten thousand dollars a month to every American citizen who has all four grandparents born in the USA before 1924.

    Blacks who are eligible will get their ten grand a month and be happy about it.

    I love all this reparations talk because it brings up monetary policy and demography, which are what the ruling class bastards talk about, at least the ones who have brains to go along with their loot.

    If you are not talking about monetary policy and demography, you are either an idiot or you are a scam artist with interests in other people not talking about monetary policy and demography.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  67. El Dato says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I remember in ’97 when they were against the Ctrl-Clinton/Ctrl-Freeh wiretapping and crypto-export control amendements (“Oxley-Manton”) to H.R. 695, the Security and Freedom through Encryption (SAFE) Act.

    20 years later, and the FBI is still beating the same dead horse of comprehensive wiretap capabilities, while the NSA is just slurping everything at the exchange.

    Did they morph after the Dubya years?

  68. bomag says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think they were damn principled in the past

    More principled than now, but pretty much 2/3s or more of their cases were pro-left back in their more objectives days.

    As you note, they have now been captured completely by the Left.

    One of their legacies is getting Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Court.

    • Replies: @jim jones
  69. L Woods says:
    @istevefan

    I think people know what I am writing about. None of us nobodies wants to step out and get pummeled or ostracized from society where you cannot make a living. Yet, if we were confident that 10,000 or more folks like us would show up to a protest, we’d probably go. No one wants to show up and be one out of 10 guys protesting while being attacked by 500 antifa.

    As someone on the wrong end of the first mover problem for much of his life, I can safely say I’m done inviting “pummeling” upon myself. I have no sympathy for these sheep.

  70. L Woods says:
    @SFG

    “Mixing” didn’t stop the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire, Austria Hungary, et al. And of course the majority are brainless, cowardly difference splitters. That’s always the case.

  71. jim jones says:
    @bomag

    Leftists are unemployable except for those rare jobs that just require complaining all day

  72. sayless says:
    @guest

    “forced to face the light of a new dawn”

    Sounds like A Clockwork Orange.

  73. sayless says:
    @El Dato

    It’s fine with me if the epic drama for reparations is staged in a theater in the Atlantic.

    In a theater that used to be the Atlantic.

    As long as it’s not stateside.

  74. peterike says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The ACLU has always been an essentially left-wing organization.

    Well yeah. They’re what in the good old days we referred to as a “Communist front group.” Now everything is a Communist front group.

  75. @SFG

    Exactly.

    The problem is that the (largely white) ruling class are incompetent snobs. The idea that white(!) nationalism will solve this problem is beyond delusional. No one with the power to do anything about it wants any part of your white nation – the basis of their delusion is that you’re on the brink of imposing it on them!

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  76. @Reg Cæsar

    A functional guide to left-wing acronyms:

    ACLU = The American Civil Liabilities Union (aka Gimmedat)

    ADL = American Defamation League (aka, blame whitey/goyem)

    SPLC = Southern Profit Law Center (aka hate-list for hire)

    BLM = Black Lies Monetized (self-explanatory)

  77. Anonymous[973] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    The Weimar equivalents of Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos were scared of the communists, who made no secret that they wanted to shoot them and seize their wealth. They threw their support behind the Nazis out of self-preservation. However modern leftism poses no threat to such people. Why should they support a modern equivalent of the Nazis?

    • Replies: @KenH
  78. Logan says:
    @anonymous

    I’ve always been fond of a thoroughly scrambled metaphor.

  79. Not Raul says:
    @Anonymous

    Reparations for Palestinians and Brits who’ve had family members murdered by the Stern Gang.

  80. @International Jew

    Admittedly, I know nothing about the ACLU’s decision-making process in advocating for the “Unite The Right” demonstration go forward in Charlottesville. But I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if it they were motivated at least in part by a calculation that the demonstration would simply give the MSM a massive target to exploit for vilifying the right.

    By itself, this would actually be perfectly consistent with a principled First Amendment stand of favoring both free speech and free counter-speech. But to the extent the ACLU selectively advocates free speech rights only when they think it will score points for the left, it’s really not principled at all.

    The whole censorship issue is actually pretty complicated in terms of tactical outcomes. For example, you could definitely argue that censoring some of the more extreme/unpopular voices on the Right is doing it a favor in terms of gaining traction with normies. (With the added benefit that it makes the censors look like bullies and the censored like martyrs).

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @J.Ross
  81. @Hypnotoad666

    You can’t really have your cake and eat it too – regular people aren’t nearly as worried about censorship as committed cons are, so getting rid of the cranks for them is like clearing the vagrants out of a park.

    Watson is the only prominent one that’s a loss to the Right. The bloodbath is on the less prominent level where there’s nothing to stop the SJWs.

  82. ATBOTL says:
    @Anonymous

    This. Every time I hear reparations for black Americans brought up in the media, I’m going to bring up reparations for Palestinians. Every time.

  83. J.Ross says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Everything you need to know about them is they’re open borders. Since the obvious goal of open borders is the corruption of the political system and the end of the Bill of Rights, the ACLU are enemies of the Constitution claiming to be its defenders.

  84. ATBOTL says:
    @Jack Hanson

    It’s boomer conservative, post-racial, coffee colored, civnat fan fiction.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  85. ATBOTL says:
    @Desiderius

    No one with the power to do anything about it wants any part of your white nation – the basis of their delusion is that you’re on the brink of imposing it on them!

    Such a thing could have been said about any revolutionary movement in history up until the moment it took power.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  86. Olorin says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I also was around and barely remember the Nazis in Skokie, Illinois deal.

    Uhhhhhhh, that probably needs a footnote for anyone under the age of 80.

    But let me let YOU in on a little secret.

    One of the reasons the ACLU championed that was so that it would get maximum coverage for a) itself and b) how all these poor Holocaust (TM) survivors in Chicagoland were being menaced by the likes of Secret Nazis from Wisconsin, etc.

    In other words it wasn’t about AMERICAN civil liberties, it was about using the First Amendment, and the courts, to establish or strengthen a victimization narrative. And much much more legal work for the likes of Burton Joseph.

    With lots and lots of (dimly remembered, as yours suggests) media coverage, and argued by Joseph, who later went on to argue for overturning the Communications Decency Act…and serve as executive director and later board chairman of the Playboy Foundation.

    Degeneracy is freedom, goy!

    http://archive.is/ySuq4

    Below, a comment I wrote for I don’t remember exactly where–maybe here, maybe drafted but not posted, I can’t recall. It taught me more than I realized in the moment about just what the game was, playing out around “Skokie,” which has been supplanted of late with “Charlottesville” as the meme where 6 gorillion Nazis march through town.

    [Morris Dees] puts on a pretty good judenschtik when he wants to. Or anyway used to. I thought he was Jewish till just a few years ago based on having watched him work a roomful of elder Jews who gathered round like he was their long-lost cousin. “Morrie! Morrie!”

    One lady asked him whether the KKK was in her neighborhood. She had a map and was pointing to it excitedly. She had symbols scrawled on the map which she claimed were Klansman sightings reported by members of her shul. “They don’t always wear those pointy hats!” she said with the satisfaction of someone who has figured out an esoteric matter. “They could be anybody, so you have to watch carefully and know the signs!”

    This struck me as mainly amusing and eccentric. Then a couple years later I was in Chicago with a business associate. We were headed to a historic preservation site north of Wilmette Harbor. He insisted on us avoiding I-94 and taking a twisty overland route through and around Skokie.

    To hear him tell it, Klansmen and Nazis had weekly mass marches down N. Crawford. As we drove along, he was twisting about in the passenger seat. “Look, look there. I think I saw that donut [or whatever] shop in X magazine. They walked right past there and turned at the corner.” (Paraphrasing.) I was confused because there was no march, as I’d followed the case pretty closely as a First Amendment law matter.

    http://archive.is/H0yWM

    https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/432/43.html

    I liked this guy, we were friends and colleagues. But I noted the odd mixture of fear and mounting excitement he oozed as we drove around Skokie and its outskirts, him narrating all the evil that was lurking in every nook and crack. It struck me as wrong somehow. Weirdly animated.

    As we got up to the Lagoons, he started telling me how Klan leaders and neo-Nazis had a lot of money and lived in really nice houses, had yachts and country club memberships and all. He was looking out at big gorgeous landscaped houses, wide eyed, head moving back and forth, then started talking about all the Coded Symbols of White Supremacists. Like rural mailboxes on posts where the flag is halfway up, or those lawn jockeys where the face is painted white, or lawn chairs pointed in the direction of Austria.

    At that point I broke out laughing and said, “Are you effing me?”

    He stared at me with a precise mixture of fear and authority. He said, “According to Morris Seligman Dees, they can be anywhere. They communicate in code and have secret meetings. That’s what the big Nazi parade in Skokie was about–to make it look like the Neo-Nazis are skinheads. In fact they hire the skinheads.”

    When I pointed out there was no Nazi parade in Skokie, that the (1977) Supreme Court case involved an application for a permit and its denial, not an event itself, he said he was sorry to learn I was anti-Semitic. I don’t know whether Morrie Dees actually said the things that my associate claimed, but I wouldn’t be surprised. And even if he said a particle of it, people like the lady with the handmade Klan map would Telephone-Game it into something much bigger in short order.

  87. Anonymous[973] • Disclaimer says:

    They communicate in code and have secret meetings.

    Projection.

  88. @ATBOTL

    Amazing how their worldview that never works out in reality is the inevitability while the reality is derided as the Turner Diaries.

  89. istevefan says:
    @dfordoom

    Washington, Jefferson, et al were prominent White people who were doing just fine too.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  90. @ATBOTL

    I’m embarassed to say that the thought did occur to me, and then I thought of the hundred dork march and realized how utterly ridiculous it was.

    There is in fact a nation worth fighting for, indeed we are in the midst of just such a fight.

    She flies the Stars and Stripes, not the flag of surrender.

  91. @istevefan

    No, Washington yearned for advancement along the lines available to any other British officer – advancement denied to him as a colonist. The sort of injustice he ran up against should be very familiar to any non-legacy white male under 40.

  92. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    From Tennessee,

    Hilary Beckles is what we call an aggressive panhandler. He is demanding lucre “or else…..”.

    This is rent seeking from a different source. Unless the exact descendants from slave traders and slaveowners could be positively identified, its really just an attempt to steal from every taxpayer or profitable company.

    Reparations for previous generations is a loony idea. He needs to focus on moving forward, not looking back. He is 63, so he wont be around much longer, much of his live being wasted on this empty pursuit.

  93. @Jack Hanson

    When I meet a neighbor, I always categorize them as potential asset or liability should the SHTF.

  94. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Reparation
    Separation
    Go together like a horse and carriage

    This, I tell you, brotha
    Can’t be havin’ one wii’out the otha

    Reparation
    Separation

    Try, try, try to separate them
    it’s an illusion…..

  95. KenH says:
    @Anonymous

    They threw their support behind the Nazis out of self-preservation……..However modern leftism poses no threat to such people. Why should they support a modern equivalent of the Nazis?

    Germany’s elite weren’t just making a cold economic calculation in supporting the Nazis as many were still German patriots who cared about Germany and the German people unlike Gates, Bezos and others who loathe Americans and see themselves as citizens of the world. Jewish American billionaires like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban love Israel and the Jewish people.

    Corporate leftists like Pelosi and her ilk don’t threaten the billionaires but AOC been demanding Bezos, et al., pay much higher taxes, Pocahontas Warren wants a wealth tax and Bernie wants much higher income taxes across the board. The AOC and Bernie wing will fleece everyone.

    As far as the (((contemporary left))) not posing any physical threat to American elites, familiarize yourself with (((communism))) and other left wing movements as the revolution always eats its own and mindless leftist street thugs will gladly turn their ire against anyone on the left who breaks ranks or who’s no longer considered an ally in good standing.

    The left will murder anyone with the wealth and intelligence who stands in their way because they have to sever the head of the population it seeks to rule over. If and when Bezos and Gates recognize the danger it will be far too late.

Current Commenter
says:

Leave a Reply - Comments are moderated by iSteve, at whim.


 Remember My InformationWhy?
 Email Replies to my Comment
Submitted comments become the property of The Unz Review and may be republished elsewhere at the sole discretion of the latter
Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
Which superpower is more threatened by its “extractive elites”?
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?
Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?