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And of course there are a couple of other ways of counting the vote in Iowa, with Sanders in the lead on those.
Wow: Bernie Bolshevik has really tightened the race against Bootie Judge, now that those final 38% are finally straggling home. It’s my understanding that turnout was underwhelming, in which case the 3rd-world counting shenanigans have obscured the disappointment quite well.
The ideal outcome for the 2020 election to me would be for Trump to win by a single electoral college vote, cast by a faithless elector who was elected for Trump, but cast his vote for Trump’s opponent, then the whole thing goes to the Supreme Court, and in a 5-4 decisions Gorsuch writes the opinion forcing the guy to change his vote back, and as a bonus, through some sort of electoral college magic, the popular vote has Trump’s opponent getting 30 million more votes than Trump, with Trump claiming the 30 million were illegals.
The popular vote is 400 + 49 + 100 = 549 or 54.9% of the vote. The referendum passes and one half of the voting districts are screwed.
If instead each voting district has one electoral vote then the vote would be 6 to 4 against the premise.
Which is the correct outcome?Replies: @Sideshow Bob
(Trump, PBUH, did miss the chance to do this to Hillary during the debates).
That's how you get civil war. It would be pretty based if you ask me tho
Trump is doing a lot better now than he was six months ago, and contrary to my view then he looks more likely to win than lose in November. But even if he does, the fact that he turns off so many people means that we're not going to be as strong as we should be.
Democrats have well-trained cadres that swoop in and re-count votes until enough are found to put their side on top.
Unleashed against themselves, the generated feed-back loop could devour the universe.
Iowa may just be a dress rehearsal for the General Election in November.
...Or, it could break the internet at the very least. Good line, there.
Remember: Bernie refused to even talk about Hillary’s email scandal in 2016 (dismissing it in a debate, to her applause) , and then refused to sue the DNC into bankruptcy/nonexistence when they rigged the game against them; instead, they bought him a house. Plus he’s a weak, cowardly old pornographer and lifetime political parasite.
And that’s before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.
Maybe a better policy than flipping a coin to break delegate ties would be to choose the candidate with the longer last name. Most presidential elections in recent history have been won by the candidate with the longer surname (popular vote 20 times from 1876 – 1960), although the last election broke that pattern. But then again, usually the taller candidate wins. In this case, Pete has the longer last name … but the same number of letters as Sanders if first names are also included; it all tends to blur together on a ballot anyway. Both leading candidates would be tied assuming both names are counted … and Sanders would get the double tiebreaker because he’s taller. That’s a lot faster than a messy recount. It also has some statistical — albeit fringe — efficacy in picking a winner in the general election. /s
Lots of people will look at this and see doddering incompetents, and it’s true that 75 year old precinct chairs might not be too sharp about their phone apps after their normal bedtime. But what is really going on is different groups of D operatives trimming and shaving the caucus vote for their guy.
bomag
Can confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. “Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts”, etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
These precincts ban any white folks that are not well armed members of organized crime, so there can be no monitoring of the "new" ballots that mysteriously appear after midnight (if needed).
Think of it as democracy in action.
God – this is the America I was born in a half century ago?
A Faggot narrowly beats a Commie well ahead of an impostor Injun, a corrupt Senile Geezer and a “Klobuchar”, which sounds like a peripheral part of a Czech steam engine, with some Hawaiian Hindoo and a Chink way down in the mix?
Revenge of the silent non-woke majority? Most of the PoC candidates are gone, and the only one mouthing a fair amount of woke platitudes is Warren, with the woke eyeing “Wine Cave” Pete and “Rogan-endorsed” Bernie suspiciously. Looks like the woke are a paper tiger, without the influence they and their fervent critics think they have.
Unleashed against themselves, the generated feed-back loop could devour the universe.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @The Alarmist, @Twodees Partain
It’s a lucky for the party that their favorite happened to win by a hair in the final tally. But luck favors those who are in charge of the counting.
I dunno … can Iowa give us this?
‘He who counts the votes wins.’ – Boss Tweed
And that's before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polynikes, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dennis Dale, @Pericles
Uh, didn’t we already have that? Also starring Michelle-O as Juwanna Mann.
That is if Butters were ever to become president. Which is about as likely as my becoming president.
bomagCan confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. "Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts", etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Reg Cæsar, @Justvisiting, @MBlanc46
The few California competitive House seats were the same in 2018. They were literally declaring Republican candidates the winner on election night when the voting was all done and they were up by 1-3 points.
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.
https://www.wnd.com/2016/12/recount-uncovers-serious-fraud-in-detroit/#V6h9jBWy7bDp3piE.99
Obviously the workers in Blue precincts were running each paper ballot through the scanning machine an average of six times before dropping it into the ballot box.
Not only that, anyone off the street could vote. They didn't need to be on our list of names nor show any ID.
I could have perpetrated crazy fraud. I can only imagine what an organized, experienced and motivated group could do if they ran all the stations in a city.
‘Pete Buttigieg is the Juan Guaido of America’: Lee Camp calls out conspiracy of ‘intentional chaos’ by Dem establishment
But maybe we are all being unfair to Pete?
In any case, M.A.D. Magazine folded too early.
Oh, vee haff ways all right. The worst thing about the Iowa fiasco isn’t that it lays bare how foul–and open to abuse–the system is. It’s that even after exposure like this, the dust will settle and we’ll return to the status quo ante as though nothing ever happened. Too many fingers in the cake.
bomagCan confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. "Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts", etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Reg Cæsar, @Justvisiting, @MBlanc46
It’s finally election year. The mere fact that the Dems don’t have a single compelling candidate, capable of readily dispatching Donald Trump, ought to give them pause. And I’m sure it would, if they were at all capable of reflection.
A fact that the Dems don't have a single compelling issue also ought to give them pause.Replies: @RadicalCenter
Buttigieg campaign paid firm that developed voting app blamed for Iowa caucus delays
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-campaign-paid-firm-that-developed-voting-app-blamed-for-iowa-caucus-delays
But who names a company Shadow? That makes CIA conspiracy theories irresistible.
The young’ns might enjoy SHADO, Supreme Headquarters Alien Defense Organization.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/02/soros-is-not-buying-best-and-brightest.html
It's funny reading the developers analyzing the app trying to be charitable.
For his part, the Shadow CEO does a nice job blaming old people.
Better than “Gaslight”, I reckon.Replies: @Kronos
Evan McMullin into a thing in 2016, so for 2020 they went all the way in with a gay Howdy-Doody lookalike named ButtPlug backed up by a vote-counting app that is jerry-rigged to tilt in his favor. The spooks are just trolling us now and having an absolute blast doing it.Replies: @Anonymous
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
Election fraud is a time honored tradition of the Democratic party.
Contrarian take: let’s celebrate amateurism? Only in the US is there such a messy, baroque, uncertain process. It’s a bit too bad there still seems to be the iron rule of a two-party system. But otherwise the chaos of primaries with dozens of silly-looking candidates earnestly debating, with an uncertain outcome and complicated and buggy and local process, produces interesting results, and gave us an unexpected result like Trump.
Yeah, yeah, sure, the Deep State is really controlling everything in the background… Is it, though? Sometimes I feel sorry for these apparently all-powerful puppet masters, they must have to work really hard and sort through a lot of strange bs to get their desired outcome…
PS: I loved how the NYT was predicting an 80% chance of Buttigieg winning with 71% of ballots counted, but now it has a 60% chance that Bernie wins. Or something… O Fake News! And statistics…
Even in the one state with third-party-friendly laws, New York, it's rare to see one win. Has it happened since James Buckley 50 years ago?
And he had great "help" from Roger Goodell's father!Replies: @Anonymous, @European-American
https://youtu.be/sJ8agbmQhGoReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard
I know this is hardly the place for it but between you and me let me thought-experiment the even more optimistic view that it's pretty good that our system isn't overly democratic and allows TPTB certain vetos and whatnot.
I mean life is pretty good these days.
The world has been around and humans have been playing on it for a long time and we're more or less living in the best of times and in one of the most secure countries during this pretty cool time.
Parliamentary systems are more democratic but as Trump told Bibi during their press conference together "you guys need to fix that". (Or something like that. It was classic Trump chutzpah. It was awesome.)
I don't implicitly trust the shadowy DC Lifers and Lobbyists and whomever else has massive undemocratic powers but I can't complain about the results with too much confidence. Who knows what a more democratic system would wring? In theory I can imagine all kinds if awesomenesses: A more selective immigration program, a system that didn't allow us to have hundreds of black no-go zones, universal very basic income, complete freedom of speech, a more humane prison system, no coordinated extralegal pushes for gaydom or whatever, etc.
But who knows if that's what we'd get?
The Germans are a pretty intelligent people and they democraticked themselves a literal (well, The Literal) Nazi government.
So, I'm pretty cheery about how things are going. Sure, lots of things could and should be better but a WHOLE lot of things could be way way way worse.
So, hey, fellas running the world, a few things you've done peeve me but overall, 5 Stars. Thanks guys!!
Unleashed against themselves, the generated feed-back loop could devour the universe.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @The Alarmist, @Twodees Partain
True dat!
Iowa may just be a dress rehearsal for the General Election in November.
The mere fact that the Dems don’t have a single compelling candidate, capable of readily dispatching Donald Trump, ought to give them pause.
A fact that the Dems don’t have a single compelling issue also ought to give them pause.
Of course, the Dems’ unlimited Third World Immigration position — and the population explosion, poverty, and overcrowding it brings — makes it impossible to even ameliorate these crises for Americans, but let’s not focus on that. They’re progressive, after all, and their (alleged) intentions and feelings are what matter.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/03/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus-live-updates.html
Steve,
I’d be remiss if I didn’t bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132
Whenever I see that appended to an article, it is almost certain that it is wholly propaganda and intentionally blind to facts.
Humor aside, a lot of prestigious universities are surrounded by some very dark and dangerous neighborhoods and the schools are not giving their students an honest assessment and adequate warning (I know this firsthand because I attend one). Since there is no way the campus security departments don’t know about the increasing level of crime and violence committed against their students, are they perhaps guilty of criminal negligence?
https://twitter.com/MsInfluenchill/status/1225077206570934272
Their Zip Code is still 15213 though and the 15213 Zip Code is for the Oakland section of Pittsburgh, where the University of Pittsburgh is located.
Zip Code 15213 was always known for Pitt, for Carnegie Mellon and for the Carnegie Hall, Museum and Library cultural area located between the two schools.
Zip Code 15217 was always Squirrel Hill and known as being the Jewish section of Pittsburgh.
This is very strange.
If that’s your notion of “ideal” I’d hate to see your idea of……
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
Hypnotoad, that’s exactly as I recall. Never read anything concerning a recount, nor any protest: guess it’s all just magic/voodoo elections from here on out in California.
How many mosques are there in Iowa? Did Louis Farrakhan have some people move in or are these more fine people from those superior countries we keep hearing about?
Some. Probably not many. Besides...no mosques required. Just nice midwestern ladies like this.
https://youtu.be/ffwAyzpcGTQ
News:
The DNC is asking the Iowa D's to review their paperwork.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/buttigieg-sanders-neck-neck-iowa-nearly-all-votes-reported-n1131261
By the way, Joe Biden looks like he's auditioning for a cameo in some version of "Walking Dead".
One is too many and I'm sure there's probably more than one. Hell even ND w/one third the pop. of Iowa has at least 2 that I know of.
According to this list, there are 20 mosques/Islamic centers in Iowa:
https://mosquelist.blogspot.com/2010/08/mosques-in-iowa-usa_10.htmlReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Maybe they could just bitch-slap each other Stewie vs. Bertram style…
And the winner is : NOT Sanders. Not even a little bit. Sanders totally didn’t win at all. That settles it. Nothing to see here, move along folks.
No, all we need now is the Articles of Confederation and the ensuing dissolution of the US empire via secession.
HawaiiHawai'i, which we stole, remember. Then, California, but keeping San Diego and the Shastas.Replies: @Anon, @Bard of BumperstickersI'd be remiss if I didn't bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132Replies: @Cucksworth, @Technite78, @Laurence Whelk, @Joe Stalin, @notsaying
I visited CWRU (CMUs) sister school twice. When the football coach picked me up from Hopkins, we took the parkway back to campus. When my parents drove, we saw the sprawling hood.
OK, then a gayer version of Obama, if that’s even possible!
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
In 2018 I felt like I should have been scandalized more by this when it was happening, but the Minnesota “check out all these extra Al Franken ballots we found hidden around town” travesty pretty much eliminated my capacity for scandailzation in these matters. They’ll do whatever they have to do to push their candidates over the finish line and they’ve shown it time and again. It should not be surprising by now.
I thought we were banned from forevermore mentioning his sullied name?
And that's before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polynikes, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dennis Dale, @Pericles
His supporters are pretty naive anyways, so I find this whole thing endlessly amusing.
Assume there are 10 voting districts with 100 people each. There is a referendum which premise states that five of the voting districts will not pay any tax and the other five will pay all taxes. Four of the five districts which won’t pay tax vote 100% for the premise and one district votes 51% against. In each of the other five districts the vote is 80% against the premise.
The popular vote is 400 + 49 + 100 = 549 or 54.9% of the vote. The referendum passes and one half of the voting districts are screwed.
If instead each voting district has one electoral vote then the vote would be 6 to 4 against the premise.
Which is the correct outcome?
And that's before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polynikes, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dennis Dale, @Pericles
He’s the US version of Emmanuel Maricón…sorry…Macron.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-campaign-paid-firm-that-developed-voting-app-blamed-for-iowa-caucus-delays
But who names a company Shadow? That makes CIA conspiracy theories irresistible.
The young'ns might enjoy SHADO, Supreme Headquarters Alien Defense Organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgYReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Thirdtwin, @Buck Ransom
VD has collected a couple interesting stories about how bad the app is:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/02/soros-is-not-buying-best-and-brightest.html
It’s funny reading the developers analyzing the app trying to be charitable.
For his part, the Shadow CEO does a nice job blaming old people.
A fact that the Dems don't have a single compelling issue also ought to give them pause.Replies: @RadicalCenter
The increasing unaffordability of medical care and now housing is a compelling, indeed life-and-death issue. They could run on that if they weren’t ginning up resentment of normal people, traditional families, and white Americans who do not hate themselves and their culture.
Of course, the Dems’ unlimited Third World Immigration position — and the population explosion, poverty, and overcrowding it brings — makes it impossible to even ameliorate these crises for Americans, but let’s not focus on that. They’re progressive, after all, and their (alleged) intentions and feelings are what matter.
Equally interesting would be a 269-269 electoral college tie. In that case, the president would be elected by the incoming House and the VP by the incoming Senate. But don’t break out the champagne yet Dems – the rule is that the House gets one vote per state delegation – so fifty votes in total. Yep, California with its 47 Dem representatives gets the same vote as Wyoming with its one Pub representative. And I believe that at least currently, the Pubs control more states in the House than the Dems do.
I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132Replies: @Cucksworth, @Technite78, @Laurence Whelk, @Joe Stalin, @notsaying
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Whenever I see that appended to an article, it is almost certain that it is wholly propaganda and intentionally blind to facts.
Bernie, vis-a-vis the other candidates, really isn’t that awful. Personally, I would have liked to have seen more support for the other heterodox Dem candidates like Yang and Gabbard, but this is at least a step in the right direction away feom neocon policies wrapped up in wokeness. Not to say that Bernie doesn’t do “woke,” but he’s a lot more policy focused (along with Yang and Gabbard). Shifting political discourse towards actually substantive issues would be nice, and the Republicans need competition on this front.
Regarding his policies, to say they have some problems is a vast understatement. Still, if I had to pick my poison, Bernie’s policies would be a minor disaster compared to the catastrophe that the Uniparty wants. Fairly moot point though, the Dems have all but guaranteed Trump’s reelection at this point.
Policy issues aside, I do have a grudging respect for Bernie. He’s an Independent who’s forced the Dems to play nice with him; to go up against them and not bow is impressive.
I’d like to add that during a debate Trump’s opponent ask him to abide by the outcome and not contest the election, and Trump shooting back that his opponent do the same.
(Trump, PBUH, did miss the chance to do this to Hillary during the debates).
OT:Titania speaks.
You’ve gotta admit, John, that WAS pretty egregious. Imagine how many tourist rubes from Vermont or Kentucky have been mugged and maybe murdered already due to the lack of that important information!
The media pays a lot more attention to Twitter than they should. A couple of the more moderate NYT op-ed people have commented on this.
My personal not-exactly-a-conspiracy theory:
While this Iowa fiasco knocks the Dems back onto the ropes, they’ll get their second wind and try to use it their advantage.
Step one will be to blame Trump. They’ve already started with claiming Trump supporters flooded the toll free number (or something) so that results could not be called in.
Next week it will be Russians or Russian bots. Book it.
Finally, come November, in any close swing state they’ll throw up their hands and say, “Look, these elections are just so chaotic and difficult to police, we need to keep counting and re-counting and re-voting and whatnot until we find the requisite number of ballots or a judge just declares us the winner. Because “democracy.” In short, they’re planting the seed that this “voting” stuff is just unmanageable, so the only solution is… We win!
Yeah, Ross discovering this the (very) hard way this week. Even the moderates got sucked in.
I can’t believe none of you big brains have figured out what happened yet. Who are the Russians most frightened of? Bootigieg, of course. He’s a military man, a cunning linguist, and financial analyst. He can pick up Russian in weekend, the writing system in a solid 45 minutes crash course. He is ready to replay the Rape of Russia! Putin is terrified of this deep state Superman, and Putin approves of Bernie, because Vladimir either wants a new Soviet Union, or he knows that socialism will cripple America. There is no way Putes could not feel the burn.
He knows Petiegieg will win in Iowa, how could a fellow spook lose in the heartland? So what does he do? Hack the Dumbocrat caucus app, causing it to fail. The days of counting, combined with das booteigieg totally not suspicious relationship with Shadow declaring his well-earned victory before it technically is won or stolen fair and square will hurt puss ‘n bootesigieg momentum, and cast a shadow that will follow him through to New Hampshire, hurting his campaign there.
Putin is the real threat here. We have to destroy our democracy to save it, folks.
VICE analyzes the phone app created by Shadow, asks software security people questions, the details are not too nerdy.
https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/3a8ajj/an-off-the-shelf-skeleton-project-experts-analyze-the-app-that-broke-iowa
tl;dr
The app wasn’t fully tested, was still being updated just a couple of weeks ago, had some data formatting issues, and looks like a student project. It also cost the Iowa D’s about $63,000.
Perez of the DNC has ruled that no other state caucuses will use the phone app.
The issue was with data engineering, specifically in transferring the data to the local Democratic party. If you deal with data in small legacy business systems, they are often brittle, and prone to silent failure -- i.e., you upload data to the system, it says "success", then it quietly discards portions of the data. Additionally, the people who maintain these systems are not exactly eager to change or improve anything. One small, "unintentional" tweak by a lazy "admin" (often some dude overseeing little more than a spreadsheet), and everything goes FUBAR.
The other area involved making the app usable for non-tech-savvy octogenarians. Not exactly the easiest thing to do.
They also had hard business constraints, since if they missed this election cycle, it would likely kill the startup. Add in some diversity-hire engineers and the results aren't shocking. That being said, many of the domain experts criticizing Shadow would probably make the same mistakes, unless they had exposure to this area.Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D
Yeah, Florida 2000.
The grand spectacle, when everyone watched with astonishment the counting of hanging chads.
When 537 Florida men and women decided the fate of the world.
It is nice when people still remember the good old times 😉
Who are the moderate NY Times opinion people? David Brooks and Ross Douthat are the only ones are the only ones to the right of Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. Brooks has been openly cheering for a Biden Presidency. Douthat is a Twitter junkie, what good would it do for him to mention this?
The first choice of the woke was NY Sen Gillibrand, who cancel-mobbed Al Franken. She not did better than 1% in the polls so gave up right before getting a debate non-invite.
The left snarls that the Republicans are the white man’s party. But let’s say Joe Biden limps into South Carolina and wins. Won’t this prove that there is a white Democrat party and a black Democrat party?
I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132Replies: @Cucksworth, @Technite78, @Laurence Whelk, @Joe Stalin, @notsaying
I took a look at the offending Carnegie Mellon Univ. neighborhood map. The only problem I see is that they should have put little skull-and-crossbones images where the black neighborhoods are.
Humor aside, a lot of prestigious universities are surrounded by some very dark and dangerous neighborhoods and the schools are not giving their students an honest assessment and adequate warning (I know this firsthand because I attend one). Since there is no way the campus security departments don’t know about the increasing level of crime and violence committed against their students, are they perhaps guilty of criminal negligence?
Iowa and Indiana must be jurisdictionally sequestered from the rest of the USA and then they must be legally removed form the Unites States of America and then the land in Iowa and Indiana can be legally considered territorial or protectorate status and therefore legally available for settlement and pioneering and land claiming.
Many decent Americans have never been convinced that Indiana actually exists at all, so making all the land in Indiana open for the taking will be an easy thing to do.
A baby boomer money-grubber propaganda pop star arsehole not named Bruce Springsteen has once again proven that the baby boomers are the most mentally deranged spiteful MUTANTS ever to be born or reside in the USA or colonial America. Even the filthy women-hating boobs in the hinterlands of Boston who were burning women because they were a little bit nutty or slutty or wacko or spinster type slags getting on people’s nerves are nowhere close to being as crack smoker crazy as these damned dastardly baby boomer boobs from the bowels of generational Hell.
Of course I’m talking about the boastful baby boomer bastard from Indiana named John Cougar Mellencamp who immodestly claimed that people were looking over their shoulders to watch his crappy Indiana dance moves. They were making sure you didn’t knock over the punch bowl table with all that gin in the punch, Johnny, they weren’t impressed by your Indiana arsehole dancing.
This baby boomer money-grubber dickweed douche named Johnny Mellencamp has used his status as a self-professed “small town” guy to endorse Jew New Yorker billionaire Wall Street Shyster Mike Bloomberg for president.
I hereby state that baby boomer Indiana arsehole Johnny Mellencamp can go drive or fly like a rich guy to Lake Michigan and JUMP the Hell in!
OUTRAGEOUS CRAP FROM INDIANA MELLENCAMP BASTARD!
Bruce Springsteen and Mellencamp Johhny are anti-worker and anti-American and they are baby boomer globalizer money-grubber thieves who have stolen the future of young people in the USA.
R — O — C — K in the U — S — A? Screw You, Mellencamp!
Baby Boomer arseholes like Johnny Mellencamp are brutally destroying the future of young people and then taunting them and rubbing their noses in it with his scandalous endorsement of Mike Bloomberg!
Mellencamp is a horrible money-grubbing baby boomer pop star tart!
If Indiana doesn’t actually exist, what is the best way to stake some claim to a few hundred thousand acres out there? This is a fascinating legal question about grabbing land and buildings that are real from a state that might not exist. I’m going through my Blackstone right now!
Piss Off Mellencamp!
As for "boobs" weren't they turned in by other women?
The big story is Biden’s shocker. I somehow doubt he’ll drop out to benefit Buttplug.
If elected candidate, I predict Buttplug won’t do well with either Blacks or Hispanics. Sanders would do better with Hispanics, who are natural socialists, but just as bad with Blacks.
With current demographics, Dems won’t have the numbers to win until 2024. From then on, the Democratic Party will turn into the American PRI (80 years of rule in Mexico).
OT: Coronavirus. Looking at the notion that ACE 2 gene expression increases if you’re a smoker, thus creating more pathways for Coronavirus to overwhelm you, much of Asia, Russia, and the Middle East has a lot of male smokers. They’re going to get hammered by the virus, and I project a high death rate among males of these populations. In China, almost half the men smoke. By contrast, only 20% of Indian males smoke. Chinese women are more vulnerable than they should be because many of them will have a higher expression of ACE 2 just from second-hand smoke from living with male smokers, and because the air in Eastern China is so polluted.
Eastern Europe and Russia are in a different sort of trouble because they have high smoking rates among both men and women. I foresee a lot of Russian and Eastern European deaths.
The New World, oddly enough, doesn’t smoke as much as the old (despite being where tobacco originated). Death rates should be lower, though South American countries like Chile will get hammered. There’s a gigantic skew in the male-female smoking ratios in many countries around the world, especially Mideast ones, that will leave a lot of the male sex dead and the female living.
I have begun to wonder how much of a role smoking played in the deaths during the 1918 Spanish Flu. There is no data on whether that virus took advantage of many smoke-damaged lungs during their period to find a pathway inside to infect tissue. It might explain why middle-aged adults and serviceman died at high rates, but children didn’t, if the virus found smokers easier to kill.
Don't know about smoking but at that age some did, many didn't. The book explained that the nature of that particular virus created such a strong antibody reaction that those who contracted it died of the reaction, flooding the lungs, etc. Those who had never been exposed to flu (and the younger ones) died more quickly. Too much natural reaction.
So not mainly old, smokers, etc. Though some of those also died. It was highly contagious and until post war victory parades and crowds were banned, it spread widely.
Subsequent flu outbreaks don't have this extremely violent immune system reaction, so far.Replies: @Desiderius
Two-party systems are the rule in big, diverse countries. Where you see multi-party ballots are in small, more homogeneous places like Denmark.
Even in the one state with third-party-friendly laws, New York, it’s rare to see one win. Has it happened since James Buckley 50 years ago?
And he had great “help” from Roger Goodell’s father!
bomagCan confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. "Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts", etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Reg Cæsar, @Justvisiting, @MBlanc46
No, it isn’t. If this can happen in one of the cleanest and most efficient states, then there is no escaping corruption anywhere.
I think in the future the Democrats will award all ties to the candidate who can document the most perverted sex acts.
bomagCan confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. "Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts", etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Reg Cæsar, @Justvisiting, @MBlanc46
In my state in the general election the urban areas have certain precincts hold reporting any results until after the rest of the state has counted.
These precincts ban any white folks that are not well armed members of organized crime, so there can be no monitoring of the “new” ballots that mysteriously appear after midnight (if needed).
Think of it as democracy in action.
I think Trump needs to talk to Barr about investigating election corruption. This is the perfect time. Otherwise things are just going to get a lot worse.
#MayorCheat takes IA!
Does anyone find it ironic that the party that elects their nominee via “delegates” is the same party that wants to abolish the electoral college?
I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132Replies: @Cucksworth, @Technite78, @Laurence Whelk, @Joe Stalin, @notsaying
Maybe CMU is inspired by the French Ministry’s US city warnings?
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I told you “Pete J Buttigieg is the Patrick J Buchanan of Iowa.” That one’s mine and it’s totally getting stolen.
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By way of Breitbart:
Vassar neo-Stasis drum circle up a phantom Klan.
https://miscellanynews.org/2019/11/14/features/workshop-aims-to-undo-racism/
SCIENCE! Sorry, back to the excerpt:
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You want a civil war?
That’s how you get civil war. It would be pretty based if you ask me tho
If any person at this site predicted the Democrats would rig the Iowa caucuses, there is a distinct possibility I may have indicated my opinion that person was an idiot.
In which case I would like to extend my sincere apologies. Mea culpa….
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
And that was the subtle way of cheating. If that doesn’t work, maybe the Dems will go to the all out blatant stuff used back East in the traditional Democrat machine run cities.
https://www.wnd.com/2016/12/recount-uncovers-serious-fraud-in-detroit/#V6h9jBWy7bDp3piE.99
Obviously the workers in Blue precincts were running each paper ballot through the scanning machine an average of six times before dropping it into the ballot box.
Even in the one state with third-party-friendly laws, New York, it's rare to see one win. Has it happened since James Buckley 50 years ago?
And he had great "help" from Roger Goodell's father!Replies: @Anonymous, @European-American
Brazil has something like 30 different parties.
Best timeline.
That would definitely have the most comic value, but for us it would be better if the Democrat lost 55-44 or whatever. Because if that happened, in some important ways the Dems would be disempowered as well as objectively defeated.
Trump is doing a lot better now than he was six months ago, and contrary to my view then he looks more likely to win than lose in November. But even if he does, the fact that he turns off so many people means that we’re not going to be as strong as we should be.
Why would they? Unemployment is under 4% and growth is over 2% for some number straight quarters (and for the most part over 3%). The only thing keeping the Dems in the game is that they get to run against Trump.
There are close to 100 million Americans"not in the labor force"....depends how you measure unemployment.....
Bernie can’t win, no matter what “to the powers that be….”
If he beats Trump they’ll Oswald him. Wall Street won’t allow the chance that like in Japan the executive branch re-nationalizes the printing presses.
Much less if college becomes free all the fast food workers, hotel workers etc will vacate their overpriced apartments for dorms and cause real estate prices to stagnate AND labor costs will rise due to the labor shortage as every one quits the Bush service economy for a chance to learn a trade.
That means lots of businesses reliant on corporate welfare from the govt because they rely on cheap labor fail amd the loans and bonds backing them go bad and we go into a Japan style malaise of deflation….Wall St cant have the average dolt getting ahead.
Like what JFKs mom said….whats the point in being rich if poor people have opportunity too?
Many decent Americans have never been convinced that Indiana actually exists at all, so making all the land in Indiana open for the taking will be an easy thing to do.
A baby boomer money-grubber propaganda pop star arsehole not named Bruce Springsteen has once again proven that the baby boomers are the most mentally deranged spiteful MUTANTS ever to be born or reside in the USA or colonial America. Even the filthy women-hating boobs in the hinterlands of Boston who were burning women because they were a little bit nutty or slutty or wacko or spinster type slags getting on people's nerves are nowhere close to being as crack smoker crazy as these damned dastardly baby boomer boobs from the bowels of generational Hell.
Of course I'm talking about the boastful baby boomer bastard from Indiana named John Cougar Mellencamp who immodestly claimed that people were looking over their shoulders to watch his crappy Indiana dance moves. They were making sure you didn't knock over the punch bowl table with all that gin in the punch, Johnny, they weren't impressed by your Indiana arsehole dancing.
This baby boomer money-grubber dickweed douche named Johnny Mellencamp has used his status as a self-professed "small town" guy to endorse Jew New Yorker billionaire Wall Street Shyster Mike Bloomberg for president.
I hereby state that baby boomer Indiana arsehole Johnny Mellencamp can go drive or fly like a rich guy to Lake Michigan and JUMP the Hell in!
OUTRAGEOUS CRAP FROM INDIANA MELLENCAMP BASTARD!
Bruce Springsteen and Mellencamp Johhny are anti-worker and anti-American and they are baby boomer globalizer money-grubber thieves who have stolen the future of young people in the USA.
R -- O -- C -- K in the U -- S -- A? Screw You, Mellencamp!
Baby Boomer arseholes like Johnny Mellencamp are brutally destroying the future of young people and then taunting them and rubbing their noses in it with his scandalous endorsement of Mike Bloomberg!
Mellencamp is a horrible money-grubbing baby boomer pop star tart!
If Indiana doesn't actually exist, what is the best way to stake some claim to a few hundred thousand acres out there? This is a fascinating legal question about grabbing land and buildings that are real from a state that might not exist. I'm going through my Blackstone right now!
Piss Off Mellencamp!
https://twitter.com/johnmellencamp/status/1225102646857650184?s=20Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Cloudbuster
Nobody was burned in New England, they were hanged. Nobody was drawn and quartered, either, except for Joshua Tefft and King Philip.
As for “boobs” weren’t they turned in by other women?
Sort of.
There are close to 100 million Americans”not in the labor force”….depends how you measure unemployment…..
The official lie is now that Russian hackers and alt-right incels at 4chan are to blame for Iowa, and the CIA and Clintonite vote-tallying contractor calling itself SHADOW is nothing-to-see-here. Granting this preposterous notion we are left in about the same place: I guess absolutely nothing has been done by the selfless heroes who would defend us from the hordes of the steppe.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iowa-woman-wanted-vote-changed-learning-buttigieg-gay-212028604.html
Iowa woman wanted vote changed after learning Buttigieg is gay
Des Moines (United States) (AFP) – An Iowa woman who supported Pete Buttigieg for president in the tumultuous US Democratic caucus asked to change her vote when she learned the candidate is gay.
She cited her religious beliefs for doing so.
“Are you saying that he has a same-sex partner? Are you kidding?” the woman, wearing a “Pete 2020” sticker, asked a caucus organizer, known as a precinct captain, in rural Iowa on Monday evening.
“Well then I don’t want anybody like that in the White House. So can I have my card back?”
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There’s not going to be a Florida 2000-Like 35 Day Recount. There’s nothing in it for the Democrats and the media dances to its tune. Even if there is a recount you are not going to be seeing breathless moment by moment headlines about it. It’s going to be memory holed because this whole debacle helps only Trump. They are already saying, “forget Iowa, on to New Hampshire”. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/michael-lind-on-populism-racism-and-restoring-democracy
This is direct (uncredited of course) from Moldbug and Adams.
https://reason.com/2013/05/13/a-brown-scare-at-the-irs/https://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/9623Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
Does anyone find it ironic that the party that elects their nominee via "delegates" is the same party that wants to abolish the electoral college?Replies: @Rob
Buttigieg and his husband Cheaten (nee Chasten)
How many mosques are there in Iowa?
Some. Probably not many. Besides…no mosques required. Just nice midwestern ladies like this.
News:
The DNC is asking the Iowa D’s to review their paperwork.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/buttigieg-sanders-neck-neck-iowa-nearly-all-votes-reported-n1131261
By the way, Joe Biden looks like he’s auditioning for a cameo in some version of “Walking Dead”.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-campaign-paid-firm-that-developed-voting-app-blamed-for-iowa-caucus-delays
But who names a company Shadow? That makes CIA conspiracy theories irresistible.
The young'ns might enjoy SHADO, Supreme Headquarters Alien Defense Organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgYReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Thirdtwin, @Buck Ransom
“But who names a company Shadow?”
Better than “Gaslight”, I reckon.
Get ready for President Buttplug. The same methods the Deep/Derp state piloted in Iowa against Sandernista, Comrade Bernie will be used against Trump.
The elites will not tolerate Trump and his deplorables. It’s Macron all over again and expect punitive green taxes and other measures to get YT and especially White men.
Open borders forever wars that are never won, endless wokery, it’s all guaranteed.
Heck Buttgig has an app for virtual serfdom of deplorables. He’s got an app for everything.
In any case, M.A.D. Magazine folded too early.Replies: @indocon
If we win the house this year, next year there should be a national standard for Federal elections, early voting has to start no earlier than the previous Sunday to Election Day, all absentee ballots must be mailed in with post marks or dropped at a polling place in the 3-4 days window before Election Day, no vote harvesting, and a Vote ID. With where things are heading, I really see a 1924 like opportunity to do things the would have been impossible to believe just a few years back.
The popular vote is 400 + 49 + 100 = 549 or 54.9% of the vote. The referendum passes and one half of the voting districts are screwed.
If instead each voting district has one electoral vote then the vote would be 6 to 4 against the premise.
Which is the correct outcome?Replies: @Sideshow Bob
Which district do I live in?
Unleashed against themselves, the generated feed-back loop could devour the universe.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @The Alarmist, @Twodees Partain
“Unleashed against themselves, the generated feed-back loop could devour the universe.”
…Or, it could break the internet at the very least. Good line, there.
No, the Commie beat the CIA faggot, though the corrupt media helped them lie about it for three days.
https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1225513321459339265?s=20
See also:
https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1225538117760954371?s=20
Don’t forget the Wall Street Billionaire. Who’s very jealous of the TV show/real estate billionaire that became US President.
Many decent Americans have never been convinced that Indiana actually exists at all, so making all the land in Indiana open for the taking will be an easy thing to do.
A baby boomer money-grubber propaganda pop star arsehole not named Bruce Springsteen has once again proven that the baby boomers are the most mentally deranged spiteful MUTANTS ever to be born or reside in the USA or colonial America. Even the filthy women-hating boobs in the hinterlands of Boston who were burning women because they were a little bit nutty or slutty or wacko or spinster type slags getting on people's nerves are nowhere close to being as crack smoker crazy as these damned dastardly baby boomer boobs from the bowels of generational Hell.
Of course I'm talking about the boastful baby boomer bastard from Indiana named John Cougar Mellencamp who immodestly claimed that people were looking over their shoulders to watch his crappy Indiana dance moves. They were making sure you didn't knock over the punch bowl table with all that gin in the punch, Johnny, they weren't impressed by your Indiana arsehole dancing.
This baby boomer money-grubber dickweed douche named Johnny Mellencamp has used his status as a self-professed "small town" guy to endorse Jew New Yorker billionaire Wall Street Shyster Mike Bloomberg for president.
I hereby state that baby boomer Indiana arsehole Johnny Mellencamp can go drive or fly like a rich guy to Lake Michigan and JUMP the Hell in!
OUTRAGEOUS CRAP FROM INDIANA MELLENCAMP BASTARD!
Bruce Springsteen and Mellencamp Johhny are anti-worker and anti-American and they are baby boomer globalizer money-grubber thieves who have stolen the future of young people in the USA.
R -- O -- C -- K in the U -- S -- A? Screw You, Mellencamp!
Baby Boomer arseholes like Johnny Mellencamp are brutally destroying the future of young people and then taunting them and rubbing their noses in it with his scandalous endorsement of Mike Bloomberg!
Mellencamp is a horrible money-grubbing baby boomer pop star tart!
If Indiana doesn't actually exist, what is the best way to stake some claim to a few hundred thousand acres out there? This is a fascinating legal question about grabbing land and buildings that are real from a state that might not exist. I'm going through my Blackstone right now!
Piss Off Mellencamp!
https://twitter.com/johnmellencamp/status/1225102646857650184?s=20Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Cloudbuster
“Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where’s the Tylenol?”
https://youtu.be/NIxhH85cQMYReplies: @Dieter Kief
Lots of remarks about religion, sects, cults, the early Christians, theology – and Titania McGrath – radical intersectionalist activist healer women. Stunning. Andrew Boyle is the Satirist of our days of the Cult of Irrationality & Anger & Grievances and Aggressions and…!!
Is this the power of women leading countries?
Thanks to Angela Merkel, Germany will lead the free world in female genital mutilation. GIRL POWER!
https://www.dw.com/en/female-genital-mutilation-feels-like-living-in-a-dead-body/a-52269987
*Whatever could be meant by this?
The app wasn't fully tested, was still being updated just a couple of weeks ago, had some data formatting issues, and looks like a student project. It also cost the Iowa D's about $63,000.Perez of the DNC has ruled that no other state caucuses will use the phone app.Replies: @anon
A lot of the criticism of the app has been oversimplified, focusing on scalability, specific technologies, security, etc. The engineers in the article seem pretty clueless, or come across as researchers who don’t write production code.
The issue was with data engineering, specifically in transferring the data to the local Democratic party. If you deal with data in small legacy business systems, they are often brittle, and prone to silent failure — i.e., you upload data to the system, it says “success”, then it quietly discards portions of the data. Additionally, the people who maintain these systems are not exactly eager to change or improve anything. One small, “unintentional” tweak by a lazy “admin” (often some dude overseeing little more than a spreadsheet), and everything goes FUBAR.
The other area involved making the app usable for non-tech-savvy octogenarians. Not exactly the easiest thing to do.
They also had hard business constraints, since if they missed this election cycle, it would likely kill the startup. Add in some diversity-hire engineers and the results aren’t shocking. That being said, many of the domain experts criticizing Shadow would probably make the same mistakes, unless they had exposure to this area.
What value are you clowns exactly adding here?Replies: @Hibernian
They couldn't get their "app" certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You're lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn't have to be a "app" to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn't have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate "app" for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these "apps" on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.Replies: @Art Deco, @Kronos, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jonathan Mason
Good grief: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/iowa-caucus-results-riddled-with-errors-and-inconsistencies/ar-BBZIMYd
The first image is upside down, but shows someone hand computing 208 – 23 = 186.
He knows Petiegieg will win in Iowa, how could a fellow spook lose in the heartland? So what does he do? Hack the Dumbocrat caucus app, causing it to fail. The days of counting, combined with das booteigieg totally not suspicious relationship with Shadow declaring his well-earned victory before it technically is won or stolen fair and square will hurt puss ‘n bootesigieg momentum, and cast a shadow that will follow him through to New Hampshire, hurting his campaign there.
Putin is the real threat here. We have to destroy our democracy to save it, folks.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
If Buttigieg gets elected, will Steve Colbert say, “The only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s cock holster,” as he did with Trump?
Al Franken ballots? Didn’t this SNL – created progressive bite the dust years back in the first wave of #MeToo purges? Somehow the Dems booted him out.
I thought we were banned from forevermore mentioning his sullied name?
Eastern Europe and Russia are in a different sort of trouble because they have high smoking rates among both men and women. I foresee a lot of Russian and Eastern European deaths.
The New World, oddly enough, doesn't smoke as much as the old (despite being where tobacco originated). Death rates should be lower, though South American countries like Chile will get hammered. There's a gigantic skew in the male-female smoking ratios in many countries around the world, especially Mideast ones, that will leave a lot of the male sex dead and the female living.
I have begun to wonder how much of a role smoking played in the deaths during the 1918 Spanish Flu. There is no data on whether that virus took advantage of many smoke-damaged lungs during their period to find a pathway inside to infect tissue. It might explain why middle-aged adults and serviceman died at high rates, but children didn't, if the virus found smokers easier to kill.Replies: @Muggles
According to a very detailed book about the “Spanish” flu of 1918-22, the main population hardest hit was young men below 25. Mainly because they had been rounded up (drafted) into overcrowded military camps which even the Army docs had warned against. Also on the WWI front. Later spread to every remote nook and cranny, those by supply ship.
Don’t know about smoking but at that age some did, many didn’t. The book explained that the nature of that particular virus created such a strong antibody reaction that those who contracted it died of the reaction, flooding the lungs, etc. Those who had never been exposed to flu (and the younger ones) died more quickly. Too much natural reaction.
So not mainly old, smokers, etc. Though some of those also died. It was highly contagious and until post war victory parades and crowds were banned, it spread widely.
Subsequent flu outbreaks don’t have this extremely violent immune system reaction, so far.
Whenever I hear of election fraud I still think back to Chicago, November, 1960, when Mayor Richard (“Vote early and often”) cooked the books in favor of JFK (giving new meaning to the name “Cook County”–which later changed to “Crook County”). And the kicker is that Nixon never contested it. Election fraud? Like political corruption itself it’s ld business which probably dates back to Greco-Roman.
The issue was with data engineering, specifically in transferring the data to the local Democratic party. If you deal with data in small legacy business systems, they are often brittle, and prone to silent failure -- i.e., you upload data to the system, it says "success", then it quietly discards portions of the data. Additionally, the people who maintain these systems are not exactly eager to change or improve anything. One small, "unintentional" tweak by a lazy "admin" (often some dude overseeing little more than a spreadsheet), and everything goes FUBAR.
The other area involved making the app usable for non-tech-savvy octogenarians. Not exactly the easiest thing to do.
They also had hard business constraints, since if they missed this election cycle, it would likely kill the startup. Add in some diversity-hire engineers and the results aren't shocking. That being said, many of the domain experts criticizing Shadow would probably make the same mistakes, unless they had exposure to this area.Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D
Use. Fucking. Paper.
What value are you clowns exactly adding here?
The issue was with data engineering, specifically in transferring the data to the local Democratic party. If you deal with data in small legacy business systems, they are often brittle, and prone to silent failure -- i.e., you upload data to the system, it says "success", then it quietly discards portions of the data. Additionally, the people who maintain these systems are not exactly eager to change or improve anything. One small, "unintentional" tweak by a lazy "admin" (often some dude overseeing little more than a spreadsheet), and everything goes FUBAR.
The other area involved making the app usable for non-tech-savvy octogenarians. Not exactly the easiest thing to do.
They also had hard business constraints, since if they missed this election cycle, it would likely kill the startup. Add in some diversity-hire engineers and the results aren't shocking. That being said, many of the domain experts criticizing Shadow would probably make the same mistakes, unless they had exposure to this area.Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D
Oh, fer Chrissake, this is not rocket science. As someone pointed out, doing the payroll for a medium sized retail chain is much more complicated.
They couldn’t get their “app” certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You’re lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn’t have to be a “app” to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn’t have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate “app” for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these “apps” on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn’t organize a piss-up in a brewery.
https://static.politico.com/41/85/9725bbfb49f9aa1baca01fbdc300/151103-iowa-voting-ap-1160.jpgReplies: @Ron Mexico
You certainly don't want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?Replies: @lysias, @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke
Don't know about smoking but at that age some did, many didn't. The book explained that the nature of that particular virus created such a strong antibody reaction that those who contracted it died of the reaction, flooding the lungs, etc. Those who had never been exposed to flu (and the younger ones) died more quickly. Too much natural reaction.
So not mainly old, smokers, etc. Though some of those also died. It was highly contagious and until post war victory parades and crowds were banned, it spread widely.
Subsequent flu outbreaks don't have this extremely violent immune system reaction, so far.Replies: @Desiderius
I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this staggering article to your attention:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: CMU apologizes for excluding historically black communities from tourist map
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2020/02/05/Carnegie-Mellon-map-homewood-Hill-District-Lincoln-Lemington-garfield-race-admissions-Pittsburgh/stories/202002050132Replies: @Cucksworth, @Technite78, @Laurence Whelk, @Joe Stalin, @notsaying
I see by the article that Carnegie Mellon now says they are in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood. That is a change. I don’t know when or why they did that. Squirrel Hill is right next door to campus but Carnegie Mellon was always still considered Oakland.
Their Zip Code is still 15213 though and the 15213 Zip Code is for the Oakland section of Pittsburgh, where the University of Pittsburgh is located.
Zip Code 15213 was always known for Pitt, for Carnegie Mellon and for the Carnegie Hall, Museum and Library cultural area located between the two schools.
Zip Code 15217 was always Squirrel Hill and known as being the Jewish section of Pittsburgh.
This is very strange.
They couldn't get their "app" certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You're lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn't have to be a "app" to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn't have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate "app" for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these "apps" on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.Replies: @Art Deco, @Kronos, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jonathan Mason
The use of digital technology in these matters is gratuitous.
My caucus in St Paul always used pieces of paper the size of Post-It notes. (Yes, in St Paul of all places, they should have used actual Post-It notes. That's like flying flags made in China.)
If we didn't bring a pen, they'd give us pencils.
The Berniebots' tactic of using smartphones to collect evidence is the real advantage of digital technology-- to keep things honest.
*Six or seven hours for Democrats, if Minnesota is anything to go by. But that would give more time to avoid tabulation errorsReplies: @anon
Better than “Gaslight”, I reckon.Replies: @Kronos
I never heard the term “gaslight” until three years ago. Apparently, it originated from a old black-and-white film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp5iPmpZiNE
They couldn't get their "app" certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You're lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn't have to be a "app" to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn't have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate "app" for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these "apps" on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.Replies: @Art Deco, @Kronos, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jonathan Mason
Don’t they use corn for these kind of things?
And that's before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polynikes, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dennis Dale, @Pericles
Bernie’s “bros” should riot if he takes this one lying down like last time.
Bernie’s “bros” should riot if he takes this one lying down like last time.Absolutely. Just give the rest of us time to stock up on moar popcorn!
There is one adult in the Democrat Party. Tulsi Gabbard.
How much flak will she get from the Globalist left crazies for showing compassion to a cancer victim?
PEACE 😇
________
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1224532731775741952
Boystown Barry is still in the closet (not too effectively, if you ask me). Pete the Cheat is openly gay, so he would be the first one of those.
That is if Butters were ever to become president. Which is about as likely as my becoming president.
This CIA faggot, to be precise:
See also:
“Gaslight” 1944 starring Ingrid Bergman, Charles Boyer and Joseph Cotten. It was in fact filmed in black and white. Also unlike movies of today, it had actors who could actually act and it was not based on a comic book.
This was a caucus. A bunch of veteran voters sitting in a classroom or fire station for three hours.*
My caucus in St Paul always used pieces of paper the size of Post-It notes. (Yes, in St Paul of all places, they should have used actual Post-It notes. That’s like flying flags made in China.)
If we didn’t bring a pen, they’d give us pencils.
The Berniebots’ tactic of using smartphones to collect evidence is the real advantage of digital technology– to keep things honest.
*Six or seven hours for Democrats, if Minnesota is anything to go by. But that would give more time to avoid tabulation errors
Did your caucus use an algorithm similar to Iowa? I don't understand what they are doing and how they are getting fractional results. There can't be a fraction of a vote, it's a discrete object - like a fraction of a person.
I get that Iowa has a two stage process in their caucus, I think that to progress beyond the first round a candidate has to get 15% of the vote. Ok, so 100 people show up, 3 candidates get 20% each, two candidates get 15% each and one gets 10%. So Mr. / Ms. / ? 10% doesn't progress to the second round. Then repeat and see who comes in with the majority.
How can someone get 37.7% of anything? What am I missing?Replies: @ScarletNumber
It’s one of those things when some people see only chaos while others see secretive control. I still can’t make up my mind on which. Sure, you have some very ingrained institutional players in the background (Henry Kissinger, Bob Dole) but there is a big electoral paradigm shift happening within both parties. The 2024 Presidential election is going to be VERY nasty (I’m betting Trump wins in 2020.) But with most blood being spilled today in the primaries. That’s a marker of real change underway.
That's éminence très, très grise.Replies: @Kronos
Checks and balances.Replies: @Kronos
Awesome!Replies: @Kronos
Explanation I heard was that an investigation would have exposed all the Republican fraud downstate.
They couldn't get their "app" certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You're lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn't have to be a "app" to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn't have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate "app" for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these "apps" on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.Replies: @Art Deco, @Kronos, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jonathan Mason
Yup.
The Iowa caucus folks had to download it from “TestFairy.com.”
Apparently, you can make this shit up.
As a sidenote, the SHADOW contact emails use the .io top-level domain, which represents the, “British Indian Ocean Territory.”
That territory happens to contain Diego Garcia, which is used for a lot of black ops in that part of the world.
Probably nothing.
The chair of the DNC suggested earlier today that the Iowa D’s check their paperwork.
Chair of the Iowa D’s to DNC — “Nah”.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/06/iowa-democratic-party-chair-ignores-dnc-calls-for-recount-of-caucus/
The only way Iowa D’s will check paperwork is if one of the campaigns in-state asks for it, and Zombie Joe’s angry-birds letter doesn’t count.
Bernie’s “bros” should riot if he takes this one lying down like last time.
Absolutely. Just give the rest of us time to stock up on moar popcorn!
Iowa woman wanted vote changed after learning Buttigieg is gay
Des Moines (United States) (AFP) - An Iowa woman who supported Pete Buttigieg for president in the tumultuous US Democratic caucus asked to change her vote when she learned the candidate is gay.
She cited her religious beliefs for doing so.
"Are you saying that he has a same-sex partner? Are you kidding?" the woman, wearing a "Pete 2020" sticker, asked a caucus organizer, known as a precinct captain, in rural Iowa on Monday evening.
"Well then I don't want anybody like that in the White House. So can I have my card back?"
..........................Replies: @Jonathan Mason
There always has to be one!
So you vote for the best known political homosexual since the later Roman emperors, without knowing he is gay? And then you cite your religious beliefs as a reason for you to have a mulligan?
Are you by any chance a Muslim? Where do the candidates stand on contraception? What about abortion? What about circumcision for boys vs girls? What is a just war? Where do you stand on leprosy or quarantine for corona virus victims? Should heretics be burned at the stake or just hanged?
Is it possible for anyone with a religious conscience to vote at all in a secular election?
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/Replies: @Jonathan Mason
They couldn't get their "app" certified for the Apple store in time so it had to be sideloaded. That was already a non-starter. Good luck getting grandma to sideload apps. You're lucky if you can get her to install one the regular way.
This whole thing didn't have to be a "app" to begin with. Any half decent web designer could have coded a web page for them to accept data securely. If people didn't have access to a PC they could have logged in using their browsers on their phones. Everyone should have done a dry run weeks ago and the whole thing should have been running like clockwork.
The whole idea that you need a separate "app" for every single thing you do is idiotic. Why do I need all these "apps" on my phone but not on my computer? Businesses do it because they want to keep you in their walled garden and steal your data but what was in it for the Iowa folks? I shudder to think that the future of America rests in the hands of like idiots. These people couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.Replies: @Art Deco, @Kronos, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Jonathan Mason
Quite so. At the very simplest level they could just have each precinct enter its data into its assigned line on an Excel spreadsheet, e-mail it in, and then consolidate the spreadsheets onto a master spreadsheet that would calculate the totals, delegate counts, and so on. At a slightly more complex level there are numerous ways to further automate the process and cut down on manual data entry.
You certainly don’t want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?
start until after it all fell apart.
Willard Romney would say yes.
Seeking truth from Colbert is fruitless. Even when fruit are involved.
You certainly don't want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?Replies: @lysias, @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke
What was preventing them from communicating by email?
My caucus in St Paul always used pieces of paper the size of Post-It notes. (Yes, in St Paul of all places, they should have used actual Post-It notes. That's like flying flags made in China.)
If we didn't bring a pen, they'd give us pencils.
The Berniebots' tactic of using smartphones to collect evidence is the real advantage of digital technology-- to keep things honest.
*Six or seven hours for Democrats, if Minnesota is anything to go by. But that would give more time to avoid tabulation errorsReplies: @anon
This was a caucus. A bunch of veteran voters sitting in a classroom or fire station for three hours.*
Did your caucus use an algorithm similar to Iowa? I don’t understand what they are doing and how they are getting fractional results. There can’t be a fraction of a vote, it’s a discrete object – like a fraction of a person.
I get that Iowa has a two stage process in their caucus, I think that to progress beyond the first round a candidate has to get 15% of the vote. Ok, so 100 people show up, 3 candidates get 20% each, two candidates get 15% each and one gets 10%. So Mr. / Ms. / ? 10% doesn’t progress to the second round. Then repeat and see who comes in with the majority.
How can someone get 37.7% of anything? What am I missing?
Yes. From the 1944 movie “Gaslight” with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman. I never saw the movie myself but the plot involves a husband trying to make his wife think she is insane for some nefarious reason. When I was a kid I heard the term as an old-timey expression by people in my parents’ generation.
For some reason it took off again a few years ago, mainly on the political left. It’s sort of like the ubiquitous inaudible “dog whistles” that they claim are being sent by republicans as secret signals to the Russians, White Supremacists, and whatnot. The Left needs these cliches to help explain why reality is actually totally different from what you observe with your own lying eyes.
Feminists have been accusing "the patriarchy" of gaslighting for a few years. Personally, I know that any time a woman fumes about "gaslighting" it is obviously projection on her part. Lefties are essentially like women in their "emotions today, emotions tomorrow, emotions forever!" mindset so no surprise that it caught on.
The obvious irony: constantly rewriting history as the Zinn-left does, is textbook gaslighting.
Better yet, via expulsion. Practice on Puerto Rico. Then start with
HawaiiHawai’i, which we stole, remember. Then, California, but keeping San Diego and the Shastas.http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2194/Spooner_1485_Bk.pdf
Yes. Under the very “just war” doctrine you allude to.
You certainly don't want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?Replies: @lysias, @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke
That didn’t happen. They’re just trying to deflect blame. The calls didn’t even
start until after it all fell apart.
https://youtu.be/sJ8agbmQhGoReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard
Both of whom are 96.
That’s éminence très, très grise.
It’s likely they did their best to mitigate the worst tendencies of the baby boomers.
HawaiiHawai'i, which we stole, remember. Then, California, but keeping San Diego and the Shastas.Replies: @Anon, @Bard of BumperstickersSierra, not Shastas
Way before Moldbug:
https://reason.com/2013/05/13/a-brown-scare-at-the-irs/
https://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/9623
Fewer than 20,000 words, too. Pity Jules Verne isn't alive today.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2013/09/technology-communism-and-brown-scare/
Nice catch tho, may well have been where Moldbug got it.
As for Moldbug's prolixity, you've got to remember his target audience. Overcredentialed progtards take to pretentious bloviation like moth to flame. Brevity is wasted on the witless as well as the unwitting.
The term had persisted in the psychology community the entire time.
https://youtu.be/sJ8agbmQhGoReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard
Both (chaos and secretive control) works.
Checks and balances.
https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-William-Strunk-Jr/dp/194564401X
Controlling the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon and the State Department (and giving adhered-to instructions to the MSM) at their most chaotic (and in the case of the media, ignored) pretty much is “everything.”
For some reason it took off again a few years ago, mainly on the political left.
Feminists have been accusing “the patriarchy” of gaslighting for a few years. Personally, I know that any time a woman fumes about “gaslighting” it is obviously projection on her part. Lefties are essentially like women in their “emotions today, emotions tomorrow, emotions forever!” mindset so no surprise that it caught on.
The obvious irony: constantly rewriting history as the Zinn-left does, is textbook gaslighting.
You certainly don't want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?Replies: @lysias, @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke
Jonathan, why do you believe “reports”?
Romney apparently believed that the house managers had proved their case against Donald Trump and that abuse of power was an impeachable offense under the constitution. Many other senators did not believe one or the other.
(To me it seems that if you order your subordinates to do something that is illegal or wrong, then that looks like abuse of power, but it would be hard to convict God, or someone in a position similar to God, of abuse of power if yo dislike some of His acts, since he created the universe and is Omnipotent.)
Popper held that it is the least likely, or most easily falsifiable, or simplest theory (attributes which he identified as all the same thing) that explains known facts that one should rationally prefer. His opposition to positivism, which held that it is the theory most likely to be true that one should prefer, here becomes very apparent. It is impossible, Popper argues, to ensure a theory to be true; it is more important that its falsity can be detected as easily as possible.
So here is a report that certain things happened. It may or may not be true, but it should be possible for law enforcement to conduct an investigation to determine if there could be some truth in it and whether crimes were committed.
https://us.cnn.com/2020/02/06/politics/iowa-caucus-prank-callers-chaos/index.htmlReplies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco
The Democrats should go back to letting the smoke-filled room pick their candidates. It’s more honest and it got guys like Andrew Jackson into office.
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1225470505500774401Replies: @Bugg
So after 4 years of meticulous planning, the Dem Iowa caucus was hacked by bunch of 13 year old boys making prank phone calls. Nobody expected guys aping the Jerky Boys to ruin your Iowa caucus.
That's éminence très, très grise.Replies: @Kronos
True, but they’ve had plenty of time and resources to build up long lasting institutional clout. Stuff like Kissinger’s “shuttle diplomacy” and co-construction of the petrodollar was decades ago but contemporary economics/politics are built on that ancient computer code.
It’s likely they did their best to mitigate the worst tendencies of the baby boomers.
https://reason.com/2013/05/13/a-brown-scare-at-the-irs/https://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/9623Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
Way before Moldbug:
Fewer than 20,000 words, too. Pity Jules Verne isn’t alive today.
The only sources we have for almost any information are reports and personal observation. Even experts who have all the information at their fingertips may still disagree in their conclusions.
Romney apparently believed that the house managers had proved their case against Donald Trump and that abuse of power was an impeachable offense under the constitution. Many other senators did not believe one or the other.
(To me it seems that if you order your subordinates to do something that is illegal or wrong, then that looks like abuse of power, but it would be hard to convict God, or someone in a position similar to God, of abuse of power if yo dislike some of His acts, since he created the universe and is Omnipotent.)
Popper held that it is the least likely, or most easily falsifiable, or simplest theory (attributes which he identified as all the same thing) that explains known facts that one should rationally prefer. His opposition to positivism, which held that it is the theory most likely to be true that one should prefer, here becomes very apparent. It is impossible, Popper argues, to ensure a theory to be true; it is more important that its falsity can be detected as easily as possible.
So here is a report that certain things happened. It may or may not be true, but it should be possible for law enforcement to conduct an investigation to determine if there could be some truth in it and whether crimes were committed.
https://us.cnn.com/2020/02/06/politics/iowa-caucus-prank-callers-chaos/index.html
Checks and balances.Replies: @Kronos
I’m an idiot, chaos or conspiracy sounds a LOT better than “chaos or secretive control.”
I’m an “Elements of Style” man who strongly believes in simple straightforward sentences with minimal prose but that really bothered me earlier today. The latter just sounds cleaner.
What value are you clowns exactly adding here?Replies: @Hibernian
The whole business of hanging chads, apps that fail, etc., could be largely avoided by going back to voting machines (strictly mechanical.) It’d be slower than electronics, but faster than paaper ballots.
Do they have any other favorite trigger words?
bomagCan confirm. Multiple 2018 elections in my flyover state went down exactly that way. "Last minute provisional ballots from the rural precincts", etc. Right down to the county and city level.
The situation in Iowa is amusing, but it is a forecast of what to expect in November.Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Reg Cæsar, @Justvisiting, @MBlanc46
It’s a major reason why Trump is likely to “lose” regardless of how the voting goes. If the Dems in PA, OH, MI, and WI can’t steal sufficient votes to turn 2016 round, the likes if Richard J. Daley will be spinning in their graves.
Or if they didn’t know they had ways to win other than getting more votes.
https://reason.com/2013/05/13/a-brown-scare-at-the-irs/https://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/9623Replies: @anon, @Desiderius
Five months.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2013/09/technology-communism-and-brown-scare/
Nice catch tho, may well have been where Moldbug got it.
As for Moldbug’s prolixity, you’ve got to remember his target audience. Overcredentialed progtards take to pretentious bloviation like moth to flame. Brevity is wasted on the witless as well as the unwitting.
Sanders and Bloomberg are both compelling in their own ways, but so is Trump.
So after 4 years of meticulous planning, the Dem Iowa caucus was hacked by bunch of 13 year old boys making prank phone calls
“Hello, Iowa Democratic Headquarters”
“Heh huh hehehehhhuh- is Joe Biden still running?”
“Yes, yes he is”
“Hahehhdhhh hhh uhhhhh.. is Pete Bootygig still running?”
“Yes, Mayor Pete is still running”
“HeHHAHAhhhe…….uhhhhh…is your refrigerator still running?”
https://youtu.be/sJ8agbmQhGoReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard
So, the takeaway is that I still have four years to get rich trading.
Awesome!
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9n56_ytFRtM/UFuTbK9ZLkI/AAAAAAAAE-U/9cFNyGoKKFc/s1600/Gen+Y+Retirement.jpg
Re: Gaslight
Gaslight was a play written in 1938:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Light
The British made their own extremely well-regarded film version in 1940:
Not really a big fan of the melodramatic acting style in those days. C’est la vie.
https://static.politico.com/41/85/9725bbfb49f9aa1baca01fbdc300/151103-iowa-voting-ap-1160.jpgReplies: @Ron Mexico
I notice Trump’s jar is the only one filled to the neck of the jar. What is that image from?
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/iowa-caucuses-republicans-2016-turnout-215496
Argentina has 10 different political parties, all of which use the word “socialist” in their name or platform. So unless you stay home or your ballot is declared invalid, you’re voting for socialism!
Awesome!Replies: @Kronos
Don’t forget the essentials!
And that's before we get to the fact that he subscribes to evil ideologies.
If he were an honorable man, this would be outrageous. But he is dishonorable, and thus his getting screwed here by the Gay Version of Obama is a source of mirth for me.
The new Deep State Front man is But-plug.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Polynikes, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dennis Dale, @Pericles
Mayor Pete’s coming campaign slogan: “Yes Butt”
The grand spectacle, when everyone watched with astonishment the counting of hanging chads.
When 537 Florida men and women decided the fate of the world.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG_WxVoXkAA_6_t.jpg
It is nice when people still remember the good old times ;-)Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Virgin Gore vs pregnant Chad
Romney apparently believed that the house managers had proved their case against Donald Trump and that abuse of power was an impeachable offense under the constitution. Many other senators did not believe one or the other.
(To me it seems that if you order your subordinates to do something that is illegal or wrong, then that looks like abuse of power, but it would be hard to convict God, or someone in a position similar to God, of abuse of power if yo dislike some of His acts, since he created the universe and is Omnipotent.)
Popper held that it is the least likely, or most easily falsifiable, or simplest theory (attributes which he identified as all the same thing) that explains known facts that one should rationally prefer. His opposition to positivism, which held that it is the theory most likely to be true that one should prefer, here becomes very apparent. It is impossible, Popper argues, to ensure a theory to be true; it is more important that its falsity can be detected as easily as possible.
So here is a report that certain things happened. It may or may not be true, but it should be possible for law enforcement to conduct an investigation to determine if there could be some truth in it and whether crimes were committed.
https://us.cnn.com/2020/02/06/politics/iowa-caucus-prank-callers-chaos/index.htmlReplies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco
But these reporters can have various levels of credibility, and we can logically analyze the reports themselves. Assuming the Russian hacker known as “4chan” really did temporarily overwhelm a phone bank, is that particularly significant given the other things happening? And as far as Romney’s sincerity, you must be joking, you cannot believe this.
“That’s our story and we’re sticking to it.”
How many mosques are there in Iowa?
One is too many and I’m sure there’s probably more than one. Hell even ND w/one third the pop. of Iowa has at least 2 that I know of.
According to this list, there are 20 mosques/Islamic centers in Iowa:
https://mosquelist.blogspot.com/2010/08/mosques-in-iowa-usa_10.html
Did your caucus use an algorithm similar to Iowa? I don't understand what they are doing and how they are getting fractional results. There can't be a fraction of a vote, it's a discrete object - like a fraction of a person.
I get that Iowa has a two stage process in their caucus, I think that to progress beyond the first round a candidate has to get 15% of the vote. Ok, so 100 people show up, 3 candidates get 20% each, two candidates get 15% each and one gets 10%. So Mr. / Ms. / ? 10% doesn't progress to the second round. Then repeat and see who comes in with the majority.
How can someone get 37.7% of anything? What am I missing?Replies: @ScarletNumber
First, this isn’t true. Once everyone gets to at least 15% you stop. Also, you can have fractional percents if there aren’t a tidy number of voters. For example, if you have 61 voters, and 23 of them vote for a particular candidate, that percentage is 37.7%.
Well, ok. Someone has to have a majority, otherwise no clear winner has emerged, right?
Also, you can have fractional percents if there aren’t a tidy number of voters. For example, if you have 61 voters, and 23 of them vote for a particular candidate, that percentage is 37.7%.
If there's 61 voters left, the whoever gets the majority of votes wins the precinct, right? Let's say there's 61 voters and 23 are for Candidate A, 10 are for candidate B and 28 for candidate C. Therefore Candidate C wins the precinct. Caucus over. No need for fractions.
In my state we have primary elections by precinct. Majority of votes wins at both the state office and Federal level. I've seen 3 or 4 names on a state office, but only one goes forward to the general election. That's the purpose of primaries, to select a candidate from a particular party to stand for office. I'm assuming the same for these big committees called "caucuses": to select a candidate that the voters believe can win the election, whatever it may be.
We don't report fractional votes in the general election: one person, one vote is the law, for good reason.
What am I missing?Replies: @ScarletNumber
Except the Dems’ smear campaign against Kavanaugh probably would have worked: President Romney would have pulled the plug on him.
One is too many and I'm sure there's probably more than one. Hell even ND w/one third the pop. of Iowa has at least 2 that I know of.
According to this list, there are 20 mosques/Islamic centers in Iowa:
https://mosquelist.blogspot.com/2010/08/mosques-in-iowa-usa_10.htmlReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Believe it or not, North Dakota had the very first in America. I don’t know if it’s still there, though.
https://newrepublic.com/article/128726/north-dakota-prairie-became-home-americas-first-mosque
Or maybe not. Cedar Rapids also makes a claim.
First, this isn’t true. Once everyone gets to at least 15% you stop.
Well, ok. Someone has to have a majority, otherwise no clear winner has emerged, right?
Also, you can have fractional percents if there aren’t a tidy number of voters. For example, if you have 61 voters, and 23 of them vote for a particular candidate, that percentage is 37.7%.
If there’s 61 voters left, the whoever gets the majority of votes wins the precinct, right? Let’s say there’s 61 voters and 23 are for Candidate A, 10 are for candidate B and 28 for candidate C. Therefore Candidate C wins the precinct. Caucus over. No need for fractions.
In my state we have primary elections by precinct. Majority of votes wins at both the state office and Federal level. I’ve seen 3 or 4 names on a state office, but only one goes forward to the general election. That’s the purpose of primaries, to select a candidate from a particular party to stand for office. I’m assuming the same for these big committees called “caucuses”: to select a candidate that the voters believe can win the election, whatever it may be.
We don’t report fractional votes in the general election: one person, one vote is the law, for good reason.
What am I missing?
You certainly don't want grannies trying to side load apps on iPhones. That is rank amateurism at the planning level.
On the other hand, what is disturbing is reports that the phone lines were jammed by bad actors calling in on the vote count phone line who were deliberately interfering with the electoral process. I would think that fraudulently interfering in an political election would be a federal offense with very severe penalties. Did anyone notice if these people had Russian or Ukrainian accents?Replies: @lysias, @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Johann Ricke
This is like that time in the 90’s, when South African villains were de rigueur. Election problems? Lost an election? Blame shifty ex-Soviet states.
Maybe YOUR gay, did you ever think of that? And yes, most folks around here are God-fearing, God-respecting traditionally-minded people who think that sodomy is a heinous sin as explained in the Bible and every other major religious text. If that’s so TRIGGERING to you, maybe find another website for your gaslighting DNC-approved conspiracy theories? Here I’ll get you started…
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/
HawaiiHawai'i, which we stole, remember. Then, California, but keeping San Diego and the Shastas.Replies: @Anon, @Bard of BumperstickersBoth, and more.
http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2194/Spooner_1485_Bk.pdf
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buttigieg-campaign-paid-firm-that-developed-voting-app-blamed-for-iowa-caucus-delays
But who names a company Shadow? That makes CIA conspiracy theories irresistible.
The young'ns might enjoy SHADO, Supreme Headquarters Alien Defense Organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgYReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Thirdtwin, @Buck Ransom
The Culinary Institute of America was really annoyed that they couldn’t turn
Evan McMullin into a thing in 2016, so for 2020 they went all the way in with a gay Howdy-Doody lookalike named ButtPlug backed up by a vote-counting app that is jerry-rigged to tilt in his favor. The spooks are just trolling us now and having an absolute blast doing it.
But a miraculous overnight surge of absentee votes showed up. Unlike all the other votes, these ran 100% Democrat and were just enough to change the result. This happened in about five crucial races. No f***ing way this was a coincidence.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @danand, @JR.Ewing.78, @Alfa158, @Moses
I ran a polling station in San Francisco in the 2000s. There were pretty much zero accounting controls on the ballots, zero oversight, zero anything. Thousands of unmarked ballots were sitting in my apartment for weeks. I could have done anything with them.
Not only that, anyone off the street could vote. They didn’t need to be on our list of names nor show any ID.
I could have perpetrated crazy fraud. I can only imagine what an organized, experienced and motivated group could do if they ran all the stations in a city.
Hey! I like your optimisim!
I know this is hardly the place for it but between you and me let me thought-experiment the even more optimistic view that it’s pretty good that our system isn’t overly democratic and allows TPTB certain vetos and whatnot.
I mean life is pretty good these days.
The world has been around and humans have been playing on it for a long time and we’re more or less living in the best of times and in one of the most secure countries during this pretty cool time.
Parliamentary systems are more democratic but as Trump told Bibi during their press conference together “you guys need to fix that”. (Or something like that. It was classic Trump chutzpah. It was awesome.)
I don’t implicitly trust the shadowy DC Lifers and Lobbyists and whomever else has massive undemocratic powers but I can’t complain about the results with too much confidence. Who knows what a more democratic system would wring? In theory I can imagine all kinds if awesomenesses: A more selective immigration program, a system that didn’t allow us to have hundreds of black no-go zones, universal very basic income, complete freedom of speech, a more humane prison system, no coordinated extralegal pushes for gaydom or whatever, etc.
But who knows if that’s what we’d get?
The Germans are a pretty intelligent people and they democraticked themselves a literal (well, The Literal) Nazi government.
So, I’m pretty cheery about how things are going. Sure, lots of things could and should be better but a WHOLE lot of things could be way way way worse.
So, hey, fellas running the world, a few things you’ve done peeve me but overall, 5 Stars. Thanks guys!!
Even in the one state with third-party-friendly laws, New York, it's rare to see one win. Has it happened since James Buckley 50 years ago?
And he had great "help" from Roger Goodell's father!Replies: @Anonymous, @European-American
> Two-party systems are the rule in big, diverse countries
Germany, France, and Italy beg to differ…
In Germany, Die Linke, AFD, and the FDP are an important factor beyond CDU and SPD.
In France, the two-party system exploded: RN, LREM, FI are all bigger than the Socialists and the Right coalition that had been top dogs. LREM is in power.
In Italy, well, I don’t claim to understand, but there’s a lot of parties, and a fairly new party called Five Star is still in power.
Even in the UK, UKIP and the Liberal Party have played a significant role.
Historically, the US is exceptional in the general stability of its political system and in the way power is shared by two parties.
And of course there’s a balance: stability at one level allows chaos at another level.
Romney apparently believed that the house managers had proved their case against Donald Trump and that abuse of power was an impeachable offense under the constitution. Many other senators did not believe one or the other.
(To me it seems that if you order your subordinates to do something that is illegal or wrong, then that looks like abuse of power, but it would be hard to convict God, or someone in a position similar to God, of abuse of power if yo dislike some of His acts, since he created the universe and is Omnipotent.)
Popper held that it is the least likely, or most easily falsifiable, or simplest theory (attributes which he identified as all the same thing) that explains known facts that one should rationally prefer. His opposition to positivism, which held that it is the theory most likely to be true that one should prefer, here becomes very apparent. It is impossible, Popper argues, to ensure a theory to be true; it is more important that its falsity can be detected as easily as possible.
So here is a report that certain things happened. It may or may not be true, but it should be possible for law enforcement to conduct an investigation to determine if there could be some truth in it and whether crimes were committed.
https://us.cnn.com/2020/02/06/politics/iowa-caucus-prank-callers-chaos/index.htmlReplies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco
Romney apparently believed that the house managers had proved their case against Donald Trump and that abuse of power was an impeachable offense under the constitution. Many other senators did not believe one or the other.
He didn’t. The notion that Trump merited impeachment is a mix of attitudinizing and motivated reasoning. The latter isn’t sustainable unless you live in deep blue bubbles, and Romney does not.
Romney is a centimillionaire with a wife, five children, and twenty grandchildren. Of all that he could be doing in his old age, he elected to carpetbag into Utah (a state in which he’s spent perhaps five of his 72 years on Earth) and run for a seat in our godawful federal legislature (which is a step down from the last elected office he held). What he’s doing makes no sense if his purpose is anything but to harass Trump. I can understand why the McCains loathe Trump and he asked for that loathing. The conduct of Romney and the Bushes merits no such tolerance.
Mitt Romney made his fortune in effect looting the great American infrastructure. His company would, say, buy a company that was hurting because they were making a slim profit or even a loss from manufacturing in the US. Romney and his gang would buy the company, close the factory, and have Chinese make the products for them.
The entire Bush family made their fortune in ways Hunter Biden can only imagine. Such as, Neil Bush and his friends looted about $1 billion from Silverado in the 1980s, when $1 billion was a lot of money. The taxpayers footed the bill for that. George II had a failed company called Arbusto, which he sold to the bin Laden family for an outrageous amount of money. Then, he got in on a scheme with the Texas Rangers to fleece the Texas taxpayers.
But, the Romney and Bush families are well mannered people.
Trump, OTOH, was always a bit ill-mannered and cocky. While the Bushes and Romneys were in bed with the Saudis and Chinese, Trump was in bed with La Cosa Nostra and various personally hired thugs. While the Bush family would conduct their extra marital affairs discretely and with "classy" women, Trump is thrice married and banged porn stars. While the Bush and Romney families would write laws to create loopholes to legalize their schemes, Trump just bulldozes his way through, the law be damned.
And so the Bush and Romney families can think they are so much better than that gauche fellow with the golden toilets and churlish tweets.
I am by no means a fan of Trump. However, when my fellow left wingers start moaning about Trump being the "worst president ever", I always ask if Trump was the fellow who started two endless wars and crashed the economy twice, after using his brother to cheat(*) in Florida to get into office in the first place.
(*) Again, JEB! found ways to make his cheating completely legal, such as using bad software that threw tens of thousands of black voters off the rolls by "accident". Which makes it so much more refined and genteel.
Here you go
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/iowa-caucuses-republicans-2016-turnout-215496
Beware the pangolin.
I assume you are familiar with the concept of cognitive dissonance?
Mitt Romney made his fortune in effect looting the great American infrastructure. His company would, say, buy a company that was hurting because they were making a slim profit or even a loss from manufacturing in the US. Romney and his gang would buy the company, close the factory, and have Chinese make the products for them.
The entire Bush family made their fortune in ways Hunter Biden can only imagine. Such as, Neil Bush and his friends looted about $1 billion from Silverado in the 1980s, when $1 billion was a lot of money. The taxpayers footed the bill for that. George II had a failed company called Arbusto, which he sold to the bin Laden family for an outrageous amount of money. Then, he got in on a scheme with the Texas Rangers to fleece the Texas taxpayers.
But, the Romney and Bush families are well mannered people.
Trump, OTOH, was always a bit ill-mannered and cocky. While the Bushes and Romneys were in bed with the Saudis and Chinese, Trump was in bed with La Cosa Nostra and various personally hired thugs. While the Bush family would conduct their extra marital affairs discretely and with “classy” women, Trump is thrice married and banged porn stars. While the Bush and Romney families would write laws to create loopholes to legalize their schemes, Trump just bulldozes his way through, the law be damned.
And so the Bush and Romney families can think they are so much better than that gauche fellow with the golden toilets and churlish tweets.
I am by no means a fan of Trump. However, when my fellow left wingers start moaning about Trump being the “worst president ever”, I always ask if Trump was the fellow who started two endless wars and crashed the economy twice, after using his brother to cheat(*) in Florida to get into office in the first place.
(*) Again, JEB! found ways to make his cheating completely legal, such as using bad software that threw tens of thousands of black voters off the rolls by “accident”. Which makes it so much more refined and genteel.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/Replies: @Jonathan Mason
Well, I think the position of the various kinds of Christian religion is a bit more nuanced than that. The Bible does not really explain anything.
It is true that a verse in Leviticus says:
“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
However, that is the Old Testament, and in Christianity the New Testament, which is rather more forgiving, rules. For example, Jesus stopped the stoning of a woman taken in adultery and pointed out that no one is really sin free.
So few contemporary Christians actually advocate for a summary death penalty for gays, a position that is much more common in the Mohammedan world, so it is not really clear what the exact theological basis for the Iowa voter’s volte face is all about.
True, the Bible, when it does mention homosexuality is generally disparaging, as it is of sexual expression in general outside of marriage, but opposition to homosexuality is hardly a central theme in the Bible or in Christian theology in general.
Homosexuality is not listed in the Ten Commandments and mentions of homosexuality in the Bible are usually in passing and grouped with a variety of other behaviors seen as undesirable, such as adultery.
Is there any organization in the US that grades politicians with scores for adultery, so that God-fearing people like yourself can avoid the wrath of God by not voting for candidates who have broken one of the Ten Commandments?
Unlikely motive, since even with Romney, the vote to impeach Trump was not even close to successful, even though many Republican senators knew perfectly well that Trump deserved censure at the very least for illegally ordering his subordinates to interfere with the disbursement of money for military aid to an ally that had been approved by congress, including the senate.
Actually Romney did the Senate a massive favor by showing that it is possible for senators to vote independently of their party whip. He may also have been reflecting the opinion of his constituents, most of whom are Mormons and probably not particularly pro-Trump.
Yes, that’s Mollie’s point.
Ross not getting that is destroying his career in real time. Hopefully some day he recovers.
The most unifying aspect of Trump’s presidency has been belatedly allowing R-leaning influencers to see the last twenty years of R leadership as the Ds have seen it. Ross’s sincere embrace of Romney here leaves him the odd man out.
https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/1225783209784377344?s=20
Don't call it a comeback.
If it were illegal the articles would have alleged a crime. Attempting to steal these bases in broad daylight (and getting thrown out by a mile) says much more about yourself and those feeding you this nonsense than anyone you’re attempting to indict. Likewise with Romney.
It is a complete and total outrage that baby boomer pop star Johnny Cougar Mellencamp has endorsed billionaire New York City Jew Mike Bloomberg for president.
Mr Johnny Mellencamp, of a small town in the alleged, possibly non-existent state of Indiana, says that Jew billionaire Mike Bloomberg will be the best champion for small town America and small town American mores, folkways and small town values.
Decent Jew Tonelson:
Huge if true (it is).
Don’t call it a comeback.
Have mercy, host:
The juxtaposition of Pete Buttjudge and “hanging chads” is too much for me to bear with this head cold.
Well, ok. Someone has to have a majority, otherwise no clear winner has emerged, right?
Also, you can have fractional percents if there aren’t a tidy number of voters. For example, if you have 61 voters, and 23 of them vote for a particular candidate, that percentage is 37.7%.
If there's 61 voters left, the whoever gets the majority of votes wins the precinct, right? Let's say there's 61 voters and 23 are for Candidate A, 10 are for candidate B and 28 for candidate C. Therefore Candidate C wins the precinct. Caucus over. No need for fractions.
In my state we have primary elections by precinct. Majority of votes wins at both the state office and Federal level. I've seen 3 or 4 names on a state office, but only one goes forward to the general election. That's the purpose of primaries, to select a candidate from a particular party to stand for office. I'm assuming the same for these big committees called "caucuses": to select a candidate that the voters believe can win the election, whatever it may be.
We don't report fractional votes in the general election: one person, one vote is the law, for good reason.
What am I missing?Replies: @ScarletNumber
No. In each particular precinct any candidate who gets 15% at the first gathering is guaranteed at least one delegate. Those who don’t meet this threshold doesn’t get any. The candidates who do meet the 15% threshold receive delegates in proportion to the amount of caucasers they have in the precinct. It is NOT winner take all.
I did not think of proportionality in awarding delegates. That explains what I was missing.
Thanks.
The candidates who do meet the 15% threshold receive delegates in proportion to the amount of caucasers they have in the precinct. It is NOT winner take all.
I did not think of proportionality in awarding delegates. That explains what I was missing.
Thanks.
Evan McMullin into a thing in 2016, so for 2020 they went all the way in with a gay Howdy-Doody lookalike named ButtPlug backed up by a vote-counting app that is jerry-rigged to tilt in his favor. The spooks are just trolling us now and having an absolute blast doing it.Replies: @Anonymous
Ah yes, the OTHER CIA. Did you ever see the movie “Heavy”?