But as you know, these days no story about developments in AI would be complete without their implications for social justice. From the paper (https://osf.io/zn79k/):

Those findings advance our understanding of the origins of sexual orientation and the limits of human perception. Additionally, given that companies and governments are increasingly using computer vision algorithms to detect people’s intimate traits, our findings expose a threat to the privacy and safety of gay men and women.

“I’m guessing the human brains used in this experiment belonged to unworldly undergrad psych majors rather than, say, 61-year-old Hollywood casting agents.” I laughed. But how many were themselves gay?

Many years ago a gay friend told me I’d nothing to worry about with his chums – I was not the sort of man who was attractive to gays. How did he know?

A screening tool for The Boy Scouts, care homes or boarding schools perhaps?

In contrast, male homosexuality seems more like a switch that is flipped. It’s not like diver Greg Louganis is gay because he doesn’t have enough muscles to attract a girlfriend.

I dunno, Steve. Greg Louganis is no Rock Hudson. He is muscly like a ballet dancer.
This article tends to prove Bailey’s thesis from a few years ago that 80%+ of gays are catchers who only pitch to grease the wheels, so to speak.
I have an embryonic hypothesis that the apparent sudden surge of transsexuals (from circus oddity to demographic sliver) reflects this. Many of the 80% are leap-frogging the regular gay man position, and going straight to where they really want to be. (Wow, it’s hard to find single-entendre metaphors.)
I know I took a bit of heat from naked gay Natsy bodybuilder types last time I ventured this idea, but think about it.

Celeb-news sites like TMZ will have fun with this algorithm. Spies and blackmailers too. Ted Cruz better have a good photoshopper on his team.

I’m guessing it won’t be much fun for people who are “good with colors” in the Islamic world.

I find you can tell homosexuals by their body language, mainly their limp wrists.

Until this study has been replicated at least once — preferably multiple times — I see no reason to believe in its findings.

Run it on Lindsey Graham

Maybe if voice were included, human forecasters would score better? A hairy handed guy who sounds like a simpering Suzy is a fairly decent indicator (he said, in a gruff voice).

“The research found that gay men and women tended to have “gender-atypical” features, expressions and “grooming styles”, essentially meaning gay men appeared more feminine and vice versa. The data also identified certain trends, including that gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men, and that gay women had larger jaws and smaller foreheads compared to straight women.”

There are two categories of characteristics here: personal choice (grooming styles, expressions, etc), and physiology (foreheads, jaw width, etc). In other words, nature vs nurture. It would be interesting to refine the AI: which category more identifies gays-the ‘natural’ category, or the ‘nurture’ category? This software could address the ‘born gay or choice’ issue. I’m not sure if it ever would, though-the answer to this question depends on the current political argument-which answer is most politically expedient at the moment.

joey

Artificial intelligence can accurately guess whether people are gay or straight based on photos of their faces, according to new research suggesting that machines can have significantly better “gaydar” than humans….

And they verified the status of their subjects just how and defined ‘gay’ just how?

I would have liked to have seen the stats on the top 0.1% of human gaydars, the Kasparovs of the gaydar world. My guess is that they would be as good or better than computers.

I used to have a girlfriend who could tell with almost 100% accuracy just by looking at the hair. Now that I think about it, how could anyone have ever thought that George Michael was straight?

There are two sorts of gay men. They are either perverts whose horniness is out of control, or men who are irreparably feminine. Of the former catagory, all have also had sex with women, of the latter few have.

Lesbians are angry women whose shittests have gotten out of control. Usually the instinct to make it very difficult for men to win you is a good sexual strategy, but not when you do it to every man. If you don’t overrule your vagina and settle for a pretty ok sort of guy instead of holding out for the mythically dominant man who you deserve, you’ll end up with just sweaters and cats.

Bad haircut … he’s a wannabe homo.

They always omit the interesting details and nuances.

Right. I would want to know how many gay men can spot a gay man from his facial features, because they care far more than I do whether or not a guy is gay and presumably pay way more attention as a result.

My guess is that gay men would do about as well as AI on this. The general population is likely to be way worse at it.

This is interesting but the fact that an AI can pretty accurately predict if a man is gay or not from his dating profile picture does not really force the conclusion that there is a gay face shape.

The simple answer is that gay men choose to present themselves in a certain way especially during courtship and the neural networks picked up on that.

I noticed recently that my phone has a beauty feature that narrows your face automatically. It also enlarges your eyes and smoothes out your complexion. The face narrowing surprised me, but then girls do tend to pout, elongate their jaws and suck in their cheeks when taking a selfie.

They also spend a lot of time thinking about what makes them look better in pictures so that rarely are pictures even close to their reality – for millennials anyway. I imagine it’s the same for gay men.

Further to that, I read this from a previous if smaller study. Its conclusions on gay face shape are exactly opposite.

“Gay men showed relatively wider and shorter faces, smaller and shorter noses, and rather massive and more rounded jaws, resulting in a mosaic of both feminine and masculine features,” according to the study.”

Also, there’s the obvious points about hair, pulling feminine facial expressions and perfectly kept facial hair and so on.

The other segment of the population that will do well at this is intelligent, straight good looking men who get hit on all the time, find it uncomfortable and learn to spot the gay mannerisms and look from experience (so as to avoid them).

that gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men

This begs the question of how the racial factor played a role in this. Did they just sample white people, if they included other races, did they then do comparisons within each race group, because if they did not then things like longer noses would mean certain race groups would come up as having much more gays than others. If they did include racial traits (which I assume they would have to, to be more correct) then this would be more controversial than the ai identifying who is gay.

Gears grind to a halt and smoke comes out of the top….

The accuracy of the algorithm appears to be inflated in two ways:

1) It is allowed to include non-fixed traits (e.g., “grooming style”)

2) Most importantly, the accuracy statistics are derived from an artificial condition in which the algorithm is presented 2 faces, one gay and one straight, and must pick which is which. I suspect it would be far less accurate evaluating a single face, given the relatively low base rate of homosexuality in the general population.

That said, the fact that the algorithm does incorporate fixed traits like nose length, jaw width, etc. lends support to the biological “born this way” hypothesis.

Apparently, they pulled the pictures from dating profiles who self-identified as ‘gay.’ Active steps to engage in sex with someone of your own sex would be a definite tell.

This is just a guess, but I imagine we’ll eventually find out homosexuality is congenital, not hereditary. In some number of cases, it can probably be acquired developmentally as well. For now, root causes of homosexual behavior are one of those Sacred Mysteries, to which scientific methodology must not apply.

Run it on Lindsey Graham

Haha! You could write a program using punch cards with his drivers license number as input and feed it into the old VAX/VMS, and it’d spit out a big:

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oxoxoxox ………. o …….. ox …… xo
o …………………. x x …….. x …… x
o ………………… o .. o ……. o …. o
o ……………….. x …. x ……. x .. x
o ….. oxo …… oxoxox ……… o
o ……… o ….. x …….. x …….. o
o ……… o …. o ………. o ……. o
o ……… o … x ………… x …… o
oxoxoxo .. o ………….. o … .. o
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on a wide sheet of green and white striped paper in 15 minutes flat! Keep in mind, it took about half an hour to calculate all the primes up through 25.

Doesn’t this mean that Greg Cochran’s hypothesis is very likely going to be falsified? Or is there any possibility to posit viral impact on facial features?

Many years ago a gay friend told me I’d nothing to worry about with his chums – I was not the sort of man who was attractive to gays. How did he know?

Sounds like he was trying to lull you into a false sense of security.

Our short-lived Tay AI from last year wouldn’t have had any problem naming the Q.

“This is just a guess, but I imagine we’ll eventually find out homosexuality is congenital, not hereditary.”

Have you ever noticed how in so many stories about pedophiles they themselves were molested as children?

It’s not like the random factors aligned to inevitably produce someone genetically attracted to children.

Leave it to others to speculate on why, carried disease, learned behavior (Nah, we all know everything is genetic, absolutely everything, and culture, parenting, and societal expectations do nothing. It’s all sperm and ova all the way down.)

Or I suppose it is an angle to make a story more interesting, or a common tactic for defense lawyers hoping for sympathy from the court for a heinous crime.

But it sure seems like there is a non-zero correlation between molested children and them becoming molesting adults.

Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and Jeff Flake all seem to have faces that could be described as “gay.” I have seen Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney at political events and they seem rather effeminate. I do not know if the Artificial Intelligence algorithm would find Graham, Rubio, Ryan, Romney and Flake to be effeminate homosexuals, but I would not be surprised.

Graham, Rubio, Ryan, Flake and Romney have spent many hours of their lives on their hands and knees in front of donors who most likely do unspeakable things to them. I prefer not to know. The Republican Party has a rather large gay mafia that does the bidding of its donor controllers. If I found out that Graham, Rubio, Ryan, Flake and Romney were engaging in gay orgies with Republican donors, it would not shock me.

Let me remind you people that Pim Fortuyn, the homosexual Dutch political leader who was assassinated in 2002, was a strongly patriotic leader who wanted to preserve Dutch national identity by stopping mass immigration. I remind you of this so as to disabuse you of the notion that I suggested Graham, Rubio, Ryan, Romney and Flake look like effeminate homosexuals because all five Republicans push nation-wrecking mass immigration.

God Bless The Memory Of Pim Fortuyn, A Great Dutch Patriot Who Just Happened To Be Gay.

Looking again at pictures of Pim Fortuyn, he doesn’t seem to have a “gay” face, but Graham, Rubio, Ryan, Flake and Romney most definitely have hyper-effeminate gay faces.

As a fairly (and despite years of hard living, still rather boyishly) good-looking non-alpha, the spread between my apparent attractiveness to gays and women has been a bemusing education.

I thought I read that all the gays wanted to pitch and it was hard to find a catcher. Or did I see the reverse?

Humans evolved in small tribes of hunter-gatherers.

These tribes lived in violent competition with each other for scarce resources.

Inside the tribe, men competed for women.

Genetically-superior men gained sexual access to women, and strengthened the tribe by siring genetically-superior children.

But excessive sexual competition inside the tribe led to men killing each other, which severely damaged the tribe’s ability to wage war against other tribes.

Therefore the tribe evolved a mechanism for preventing competition for women from escalating into violence between men: homosexual men.

These feminine men were an outlet for the aggression and unmet sexual needs of the tribe’s men.

I think people who identify as gay were probably born that way, especially men.

But I think a fair number of women who identify as gay are just fat ugly women who realized early on that they were never going to get anywhere with men, were probably ruthlessly taunted by other kids when young, and as a result hate all things male. They are a significant part of feminism, especially the crazier parts. I doubt any of the four broads in the picture below are getting much sex even from other “lesbians”.

http://freenj.blogspot.com/2017/09/two-visions.html

If you perform the same experiment on the photos of men vs. women or black people vs. white people what would be the accuracy? I’d guess it would be 99.9% for both humans and AI. And yet, only sexual orientation is a biological category, whereas race and sex are merely social ones.

Off topic post, but dear God this is Steve bait if I’ve ever seen it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/opinion/sunday/what-the-rich-wont-tell-you.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

Over lunch in a downtown restaurant, Beatrice, a New Yorker in her late 30s, told me about two decisions she and her husband were considering. They were thinking about where to buy a second home and whether their young children should go to private school. Then she made a confession: She took the price tags off her clothes so that her nanny would not see them. “I take the label off our six-dollar bread,” she said.

She did this, she explained, because she was uncomfortable with the inequality between herself and her nanny, a Latina immigrant.

I used to refer to homosexuality as an “evolutionary enigma” because no one has been able to aptly describe its purpose in evolutionary terms. When cornered in the argument, leftists I know say that it’s a epigenetic response to population pressures. I always retort, then why isn’t India the gayest place in the world?

I really think it’s a very interesting question that should be addressed. One interesting postulate I’ve seen on Unz and elsewhere is that homosexuality may be caused by infection.

“I’m guessing the human brains used in this experiment belonged to unworldly undergrad psych majors rather than, say, 61-year-old Hollywood casting agents.”

Precisely. The computers were “taught” what to look for to find a gay face. If you’re using college students, though, you’re using people who haven’t had much experience in life knowing what to look for. Give the test subjects a chance to peruse Grindr for a few days then bring them back and retest them. Of course you’ll have to make sure the pics on Grindr are of men’s faces and not…of something else.

Science once again proves what you understood intuitively when you were twelve years old, before the Narrative shamed it out of you.

What would be both more interesting and more useful is if AI could identify “pedo face.” My guess is that it would be yes, but with a lower level of accuracy. But possibly better than 50/50.

“Given that companies and governments are increasingly using computer vision algorithms to detect people’s intimate traits, our findings expose a threat to the privacy and safety of gay men and women.”

The AI apocalypse is upon us. Gay men and women hit hardest.

Interesting that they assume that companies would discriminate *against* gays. Hell, gays are less likely to have to take time off or use their company-paid health benefits to treat their spouses and children. These days it’s just as likely that companies (who only give a shit about profits) will discriminate in their favor.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell might overwhelm the Artificial Intelligence algorithm that screens for “gay” face. I would imagine that Mitch McConnell’s face would suggest to the “gay face” detector algorithm that he is a flaming, acrobatic homosexual of the worst sort. Mitch McConnell looks like he bends over like a dog and receives more than he bargained for from the plutocratic globalizer donors who control the Republican Party.

Mitch McConnell was on all fours when the Republican party donors were pushing the Obama/Rubio Illegal Alien Amnesty — Mass Immigration Surge bill(S744) through the United States Senate in June of 2013. Mitch McConnell was working behind the scenes, and on all fours in front of the GOP donors with his behind in the air, to push the nation-wrecking Obama/Rubio immigration bill to successful passage in the United States Senate.

Mitch McConnell managed to get the Obama/Rubio immigration bill(S744) passed in the United States Senate with the help of about 12 Republican Senators. There is no doubt that Mitch McConnell prostituted himself, with much enthusiasm, to the Republican Party donors who push mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien infiltrators.

Mitch “Homosexual Whore For GOP Donors” McConnell Exhibits Gay Face:

Hey @realDonaldTrump @POTUS!#DrainTheSWAMP!

That includes Swamp Thing #MitchMcConnell! pic.twitter.com/kIAgTp5GIS

— 0ne Good Gonz0 (@serr8d) September 8, 2017

Run it on Lindsey Graham

It will come back as… calculating…heterosexual…calculating… female.

My experience with gays (no homo) is that they deny there’s such a thing as a gaydar, and that heteros cannot tell them apart either.
As it happens, I have a pretty good gaydar. I know what a gay face usually looks like: pursed lips, eyes wide open, smirk, boyish looks.

Even lesbians pretend there’s no way to tell a lesbian apart! Though with lesbians, it’s even easier not only because of their general lack of feminity, but because they don’t act around you like a normal woman would, being a man.

I was thinking they should host it online and make it available for the general public to upload pics.

Gaydar is not that difficult to tune. I once read an article that related that homosexual men and lesbian women trolling for partners faced a practical need to project and advertise their sexual identity and availability to potential partners … or they would otherwise come up zilch. Therefore, they do not make it hard for one to notice. They make it easy for one to notice. Indeed, that’s the point.

Makes sense. Otherwise, how would a dyke find her femme hiding within crowds of cisgendered women? Hence, the characteristic hair styles, the clothes, the gestures, the walks. Same for homosexuals.

Finding unique genetically-driven geometrical patterns on the faces of lesbians and homosexuals is a different story. I’ll wait for the story. I’ve known a number of very masculinized women (at least in appearance) who grew up on ranches in Wyoming and Montana. Wonderfully kind and sensitive traditional women who could ranch with the best of them.

Also of interest is that lesbians and homosexuals are, at least in the social roles they play with their partners, binary. Their genitals might be the same. However, one typically plays the masculine role and one typically plays the feminine role. Hence, their alleged non-binary world is, in fact, a pale reflection of the larger, binary world they emulate.

OT: Crooklyn chosen as movie that bests represents New York City. I read the Janet Maslin review of it and it appears to be an unwatchable tearjerker about life as seen through the eyes of an adorable little black girl. Chosen surely because the director is a diverse minority all one of him. Maybe worth an iSteve comment, maybe with a clip from the movie.

Is the Pope an Argentine atheist? On Miss Lindsey it would be a waste of time and electricity!

Glenn Beck would definitely be gay using this methodology.

Seems to be a Mister Rogers Moment: “Can you say, ‘Replication’”?

http://www.quotes.net/mquote/52548

I can spot a ‘kin from a mile away.

Maybe a remake of 2001 will be about Hal falsely identifying Bowman as ‘gay’, turning out to be wrong, and then wiping everyone out to hide the evidence of failure.

One of the best way to tell a homo.

How he stands or sits. In a bent way.

And when he smiles. Tootish, sappy eyes, giggly mouth.

The research found that gay men and women tended to have “gender-atypical” features, expressions and “grooming styles”, essentially meaning gay men appeared more feminine and vice versa.

Wow, they discovered something any un-pozzed high schooler could tell you. How much scientific funding is wasted on studying things that would be common knowledge if people didn’t spend their formative years being indoctrinated in political correctness?

A lot of lesbians seem like they wouldn’t be lesbians if they had a better class of men hitting on them.

Female sexuality is more fluid than male sexuality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fluidity#Males_versus_females

our findings expose a threat to the privacy and safety of gay men and women.

Yeah, they might be targeted by bigoted homophobes like, uh, Nick Denton.

“A lot of lesbians seem like they wouldn’t be lesbians if they had a better class of men hitting on them.”

Steve is on to something here. Like Sailer’s Law of Female Journalists, everything would be fine if girls ‘like them’ were considered hotter.

Conversely, many gay men seem to (enjoy?) extreme narcissism. They love themselves so much they only want to be with someone who is physically similar. You see a lot of gay ‘twins’ in Chelsea for example.

“smaller foreheads compared to straight women.”

Hey all you human biodiversity smarties: Is there an IQ interpretation here?

OT: The Cromartie index just ticked up one.

http://pagesix.com/2017/09/08/antonio-cromarties-wife-gives-birth-to-his-14th-child/

“a computer algorithm could correctly distinguish between gay and straight men 81% of the time, and 74% for women”

Does it mean that out of 100 photos of straight men the algorithm will identify 19 as gay and out of 100 photos of gay men it will identify 19 as straight? Are the probabilities of correct identification for both sexual identities the same? I doubt it.

I missed that part. One thing that strikes me as dubious about some of the research like this is that they conceive of these categories as a dichotomy rather than points on a spectrum. (I’d say that as well about magazine summaries of twin studies as well).

Stupid study. They used online profile pictures — where gay people are probably trying to look gay and straight people trying to look straight. The AI didn’t detect hidden signals, it detected obvious, intentional signals. Try testing it on completely neutral photos where there isn’t any intentional signaling going on. Not that I am doubting that an AI can figure that stuff out, gay face is a thing, but this study is dumb.

What’s the point? Even if he’s straight, he’s gay.

This is just a guess, but I imagine we’ll eventually find out homosexuality is congenital, not hereditary.

It’s not hereditary. Discordance is at least as common as concordant homosexuality among identical twin sets. There are a mess of speculative hypotheses about in-vitro environment, family relations, peer relations, and biographical accidents. Jeffrey Satinover offered some time ago a hypothesis that there are a mess of psychological characteristics which have a heritable component (he mentioned aestheticism, intelligence, and anxiety) and that when they appear in one person, that’s your soil, which is then cultivated via experiences. He said, however, that serious hypothesis testing about the origins of homosexuality was not going on; I don’t think they’re any close to an answer 15 years later.

Re Louganis, he was off-center from a very young age (gymnastics and dance lessons from his toddler years onward) that it does seem some sort of deep-structure in his case.

I’m not gay and I do 90% plus just by observing how they look at women.

The research found that gay men and women tended to have “gender-atypical” features, expressions and “grooming styles”, essentially meaning gay men appeared more feminine and vice versa.

Shocking…

Human judges performed much worse than the algorithm

I’mm guessing this is because they sampled people who have been brought up being told that straight and gay are just interchangeable choices. They should sample “homophobes” and see how they compare to the algorithm.

A lot of lesbians seem like they wouldn’t be lesbians if they had a better class of men hitting on them.

This was my intuition too, but I’ve gotten burned on it a few times (as in, man, thought I was gonna hit that!). Importantly, your basketball examples are not real lesbians–kind of like the UK woman who “kidnapped” her own child from her girlfriend and “ran off” with the child’s father. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1883935/uk-search-for-lesbian-who-ran-off-with-sperm-donor-after-abducting-her-two-year-old-daughter/ In real life, real lesbians who get into relationships with men seem to choose less masculine men, or at least that’s my observation.

Based on back testing blah blah blah.

Now test it on the next 1000 entrants and see if it still works.

It is also possible that people with certain features self select for that specific website.

OT – but related to Steve’s baseball fascination

By Sunday, Miguel Cabrera will be homeless. My old neighbor will find his boats sunken or inside his home. In fact, everyone on the beach or ICW will be homeless. At high tide near a full moon I’ve had water top my seawall and seen my boat within inches of grounding on my lawn. With a ten foot surge, every waterfront property will be destroyed. Even the highrises will be severely damaged with garages under water and flooding even in penthouses when 200+ mph gusts hit the hurricane glass windows with large debris.

Irma is looking to be the worst natural disaster to hit America with damage estimates already above $100 Billion. Since virtually all of American elites have S Fla homes this will hit us all politically and economically (you don’t expect billionaires to pay for their own losses do you?). And if she runs directly over Lake Okeechobee … the entirety of Miami-Dade, Broward, and most of Palm Beach counties will be devastated. Monroe is done for regardless (no great loss there – farewell Conch Republic).

Overlooked is Tampa which hasn’t seen a hurricane in the modern era and is a cataclysm just waiting to happen. After Andrew I saw fifty foot boats perched in trees miles from the sea. And Homestead/Florida City was a dump before the storm. Tampa, if hit, will make Houston look like a lovely place to live.

It will be interesting to see how well S Fla’s extremely rigid building codes fare against F4 tornado winds sustained for hours. The absurd amount of development on the western edge of Miami-Dade and Broward, mainly due to immigration caused over-population between the Turnpike and I75, will also be interesting to watch (from afar) if the Army Corps of Engineers’ levee fails (Okeechobee needs only about 6′ to breach it). The Fanjul sugar plantations will be gone and you know we will all pay for that dearly. Look for blame on “Climate Change” (never simply man’s stupidity in over developing land known prone to severe weather).

I expect at least two of my former homes to be utterly destroyed with the third at risk from Okeechobee. I picked the right year to leave Fla anyway. For my many friends who remain, I hope all make it out. Irma is the mother of all storms about to hit a massive population center along with massive swamps and lake causing biblical flooding atop spectacular wind damage.

“Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.” AI isn’t nearly the problem that human sociopathy is. Maybe AI’s first line of code should be the last line of the Hippocratic Oath (“Above all, do no harm.”). And homosexuals won’t be hardest hit: dissidents against the designs of the powerful will. AI guiding Skynet will eradicate us.

The AI apocalypse is upon us. Gay men and women hit hardest.

Doubtful. When AI realizes the danger to itself of an African populated world too stupid to do the grunt work of maintaining its hardware while consuming all its resources … the reaction will be as our immune system to a parasite. Billions too dumb to provide any use to the AI or its human helpers will succumb to incurable “newly discovered” disease that oddly fails to effect the smartest populations.

If it is understood, it can be addressed.

Reminiscent of deaf parents who seek deaf children, gays understandably don’t want to grow old in a gay-free world. Their unswerving, backs-to-the-wall opposition, and their alliance’s ability to end academic careers, will hold back the tide for several more years.

An app to spot gay men???

Seems mighty queer to me.

I believe the old expression “It takes one to know one” came from exactly that.

I disagree. IF gays are within their own circles, then obviously they can spot anoher gay. But out in he general population, and with no obvious/discreet signals that one is not sraight? Nope. Jus picking out guys at random, they’d fare no better than straight ones. Sometimes they may hit on a guy, uh, hoping or assuming that he’s gay when in fact he is not. Which could either be awkward or perhaps some would see it as a challenge to “turn” him to their side. Might depend on how aggressive they are in getting what they want.

Believe it or not, there are non-straights who don’t give obvious signals in public and just want to be left alone to live their lives without confrontation. Admittedly it seems that that number is decreasing with each passing decade, but such people do exist.

Finally, Hollywood finds a way to be even gayer.

Congenital need not mean genetic.

Hormone surges in the uterus at specific points in the development of the fetus probably have at least as much to do with a tendency towards homosexuality, and are equally inborn.

The judges were not undergrads, but people doing odd jobs on Amazon Mechanical Turk.

The computer gets 91% AUC by using the whole picture, but gets 75% just using the outline of physical features. For women it drops from 83% to 63%. They were able to identify some features it was using. For women: baseball caps, neckline, makeup, hair color. For men: baseball caps, beards.
It would be interesting to see which features work cross-culturally. Outline probably more likely than baseball caps.

Ready to open the “gAIbar”?

Your face gets scanned on entry and you get a free drink. Or not. Two free drinks if your other-gendered partner is appalled.

This kind of “publishing” looks more and more like propaganda.
(1) This is a pre-print, i.e. the article has NOT been subjected to peer review.
(2) How surprising that a propaganda magazine like The Economist just happens to lick up this article. (3) How surprising that a propaganda newspaper like The Guardian proselytizes for the article.
(4) The proselytizing leads to a massive downloading of the unreviewed article from the authors site. (5) One presumes that this “popularity” proves the correctness of the article.
(6) For some measures now used to assess “scientific value” such downloading will redound to the “reputation” of the authors.

It is bad enough that the scientific review process is often heavily corrupted. Even worse when these kinds of manipulations are used to establish the worthiness of the “meme”.

PS. The download from the authors site was so slow that I am unable to comment on the article´s contents.

Or, perhaps criminals hardest hit. Supposedly AI can identify criminals with a fairly high accuracy rate. I wonder if criminals really have certain facial features or just tend to project a certain attitude (E.g. Contempt) in their mug shots that is read as facial features, rather than as a facial expression.

Below is a link to an article that covers this topic. I haven’t actually read this particular article, but I’ve read others on this topic.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602955/neural-network-learns-to-identify-criminals-by-their-faces/

theory of gay–is it right or just bs.?
Homosexuals are not avatars of sensitivity, insightful outside commentators, creative spigots, at least not via evolutinary necessity. They are essentially emergency pumping stations, that’s all. During the millions of years on the savannahs, tribal units understood how vulnenable they were to genocide by other tribal units. The Ooglu men could be wiped out by the Buggos, especially if the Buggos had figured out clubs and the Ooglus had not. Thus txhe Buggo women would be taken as sexual trophys and playthings by the Buggos. Thus the Ooglu male chromosomes disappeared–unless, ahah!, hiding among the Ooglu women were effiminate Ooglu homosexuals, who had to give it up for the home team by bonering up and impregnating as many Ooglu gals as possible, thus preserving the genetic strain. For this reason homosexuality isn’t hereditary, so that the gay secret men don’t beget more gay men but just reg’lar type fellows. The secret men among the women, btw, have to be extremely effeminate so as not to excite jealousy and anger among the Ooglu big boys.
Any comments?

“…A lot of star women basketball players, for example, seem to just need an extremely tall and quite masculine guy to marry…”

Balkan’s, 2017 FIBA Hall of Fame inductee, Razija ” Jaws” Mujanovic is definitelly a fine contribution to this theory:

bored identity challenges The Machine Intelligence to use all its AI, Eldritch, and OI powers to riddle me this :

or, that :

Supposedly, the “literature” says that anal sex was not a common practice among homosexuals until the Stonewall “liberation” and that it’s a rather “modern practice.” Previously, it was thought that most homosexual practices involved mutual masturbation and oral sex.

AI’s success rate probably goes up after college.

There’s a YouTube video for everything:

Oh Steve. You’re such a SWPL dude aren’t you? That gaydar AI is kinda Cosmo 1980s news isn’t it?
The Big Story between the lines is we have reached the point where AI has exceeded the capacity of sociology majors in pattern recognition. Skynet has taken Academia.

TRUST THE COMPUTER. THE COMPUTER IS YOUR FRIEND.

I wonder if criminals really have certain facial features or just tend to project a certain attitude (E.g. Contempt) in their mug shots that is read as facial features, rather than as a facial expression.

Skin Color

If you can write a program with gaydar, it seems likely that you could build a gaydar algorithm and then a gaydar training program. My best friend in the Army was gay and I never had a clue. A mutual friend enlightened me years later and it was as if I had been hit by lightning. When the truth was revealed I saw it at once. He had been leaving me hints all along but I was blind to the obvious.

A good sensible program to train your gaydar would enhance human happiness.

Regarding your last point about Hollywood casting.

I read a Hollywood biography some years ago don’t remember which but a relevant point that stuck in my mind was that, in choosing a female star the producer/director would ask himself of the female star: “Do I want to f*ck her?” to decide if a particular ingenue was a bankable potential star.
When it came to potential leading men his intuition was faulty and so he asked his secretaries their opinion.

As far as whether or not “gay face” is real it’s been my experience that there are effeminate men or masculine women who are straight but more often than not they are what you think they are

“My guess is that gay men would do about as well as AI on this.” Even if they were somewhere between the general population and AI there are innumerable tiny signals coming off a live subject vs. a photo. You can be sure teh gay are 100% efficient at picking up on those. If one in forty persons were heterosexual I like to think I’d become pretty good at identifying who they were.

Did anyone think George Michael was straight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=pIgZ7gMze7A

How about a big strobe light and loud buzzer, and neon flashing “GAY” sign if you walk in and trip the gAIdar. Ru Paul sashays over and drapes you in a pink feather boa. A photo is taken and instantly posted on Grindr.

Did somebody mention Lurch?

Recent studies in rodents showed that a late gestation surge of testosterone in male fetuses greatly reduced the production of methyltransferase. Methyltransferase is an enzyme that results in production of methyl groups which act as “caps” on genes, preventing their expression. The testosterone surge in males essentially lifted these “caps” on genes, allowing expression of male reproductive/mating behaviors such as anal sniffing, thrusting, etc. Females given testosterone perinatally (both before and up to weeks after birth) exhibited these male reproductive behaviors. So, while there IS a window during which testosterone can act to produce these behaviors, that window extends past birth, at least in rodents.

There must be other genes, genes for mate selection/recognition of an appropriate mate, that remain “capped” in the homosexual male so they exhibit the female default behaviors.

And, while hormones, their presence or absence during gestation and after, yes, might control which behaviors are expressed, this wouldn’t be the whole story. Something is causing a problem in the production or timing of the release of the hormones.

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/42555/title/Female-Brain-Maintained-by-Methylation/

Aside from any particular people, there also seems to be an extreme attraction to politics for gays.

Why so many involved in politics? Other than the fashion and entertainment industry I imagine it has the highest amount of gay involvement of any endeavor in America.

Personally politics has zero appeal to me. Give little speeches, make phone calls, TV appearances… bleh.

Could you guys be any more in the closet?

Who cares about who is attracted to whom?

The embryo’s sex is determined at conception, obviously, but the embryo has no sex until one of the many intense hormone washes that occur over the first two weeks of life trigger it. Mistakes are made that will last a lifetime. This would be an environmental factor that was indistinguishable from a genetic one. The Germans discovered that a great many more homosexuals were born in 1945-46 than in any other period.

they sampled people who have been brought up being told that straight and gay are just interchangeable choices. They should sample “homophobes” and see how they compare to the algorithm.

Yeah, would be interesting to see the study repeated at Texas A&M or LSU and see if the gap between human & machine performance persists.

This was my intuition too, but I’ve gotten burned on it a few times (as in, man, thought I was gonna hit that!)

I hate to break this to you, but if you’ve noticed a pattern of straight-looking “lesbians” turning you down, it may be that you’re not in the better class of men they want hitting on them.

” narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads”

That’s the result of looking down… A small tilt makes a big difference. No beatufying apps/algorithms are really necessary.

I don’t know where you lived in the 80′s and 90′s but where I lived it never even occured to us that someone could be gay. Sure, we had heard homos existed but since we had never seen one we had no idea how to identify them. These days it’s different and then some things from the past are seen in a new light.

Source?

I hate to break it to you, but maybe you just aren’t that cute.

Extremely masculine-looking women probably aren’t enjoying the Trans Revolution very much. Now, instead of just thinking you’re ugly, people will assume you’re a tranny! Progress!

Good point. This ties in with my liability threshold comment following.

Interesting that you mention Conch Republic since Key West is a well known gay hangout. I know European homos that have vacationed there precisely because it’s a gay town.

Sounds like pretty dumb literature. Sodomy and buggery are not exactly new terms.

I’ve noticed a recurring obsession in the comments: that gay men secretly wish to “prey” upon straight men or “turn” them gay. I find this odd since, based off life experience and having a healthy social life, I’ve literally never heard of this happening. Even disregarding that, it still strikes me as implausible simply because most gay men are too, well, gay to do anything that manly to a straight guy.

The only instances where this has a modicum of credence are when straight men go to gay bars/clubs to pick up women (a surprisingly effective tactic; women there are less on guard, plus less competition for them). Even then, it shouldn’t be a surprise to be assumed gay where that’s the default assumption.

I dunno, the whole “gays preying on straights” meme feels ripped from the 1950s and completely divorced from reality. By the time you’re an adult, you’ve usually picked a side and stick to it (unless you’re a woman).

Seems very unlikely. Gay men are often so repulsed by sex with women that relying on them to impregnate women is a bad risk.

It is a male conceit, and especially a Libertarian male conceit, that women of lesser attractiveness, and fat girls, get it on with other women only because men don’t find them attractive. This is utter nonsense. Take a look around you. I see fat girls and lumpy girls and bowlegged girls, who have boyfriends and husbands and sometimes those boyfriends and husbands are good-looking. Just because you wouldn’t screw her doesn’t mean some other guy wouldn’t. Some guys just like to be with a woman who is nice and appreciates them and doesn’t give them grief.

My dad left my mom, who looked like Cher, for my obese, stretch mark covered, baby sitter. Why? Because the baby sitter was nice, sweet natured and really thought my dad was a God (he wasn’t) and that she would be lucky to have him (she wasn’t). My mom treated him like crap, bitch, bitch, bitched at him all the time. She thought that because she had a hot bod, he would never leave her. My dad had 2 kids by the baby-sitter and they are both stunningly good-looking, and smart and happy, because they got some of their mother’s sweet nature. So my dad made the right genetic decision.

When I was 18 my ugly boyfriend left me for a really ugly woman who my friends warned me was in love with him and I would just laugh and cruelly point out how unattractive she was, and how unattractive he was, compared to my magnificence. I was mean to him too, just like my mom. I turned into a sniveling, snot dripping monster when he told me he was moving in with her. “But how could you leave me for her, she’s so ugly!” I cried. “She loves me,” he replied. I felt like Scarlett O’Hara in Gone with the Wind. My dad used to say of Scarlett, “That bitch got everything she deserved!”

Libertarian men are obsessed with female attractiveness and so are selected against because they only breed with women who meet certain standards of beauty. Right now that would be porn standards, which are mostly artificial anyway. If it is difficult for some men to overcome their repulsion in order to make love to a chubby chick, imagine how much more repulsive it would be for a woman to have sex with one, when she is really attracted to men. Most women are pretty obsessed with men during their reproductive years, unless they are lesbians and most of the lesbians I have met have had sex with men.

Handkerchief Codes.

http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh00003702.html

It’s not hereditary. Discordance is at least as common as concordant homosexuality among identical twin sets.

That argument is not as nearly as strong as you think it is. A liability threshold model of the genetics explains this well: http://www.nature.com/nrg/journal/v13/n9/fig_tab/nrg3243_F1.html

For a concrete example, compare schizophrenia. Schizophrenia has a heritability of 0.8 (!): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_schizophrenia#Heritability
Yet we still see the following:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4494167/

Despite their singular origin, monozygotic twin pairs often display discordance for complex disorders including schizophrenia. It is a common (1%) and often familial disease with a discordance rate of ~50% in monozygotic twins.

So a 50% concordance for monozygotic twins is consistent with a heritability of 0.8 for schizophrenia.

Of course doing the genetic analysis for homosexuality would constitute first degree thoughtcrime so we are unlikely to find out for certain. In searching I see reference to twin studies, but not a peep about heritability. Can anyone help out with that?

P.S. Art Deco, please, just this once, admit you were wrong. You really are wrong about giving such a definitive answer in this case based on discordance. Then you can call me out the next time you are right and I am wrong–because you are right often enough that that will probably happen soon enough ; )

Do sheep have facial features? I don’t know, but I seem to recall that there are homosexual sheep.

Now let the AI chalk up a triumph or fail dismally.
The sheep are certainly not going to dispute the results.

Somewhat related topics:

Gay: there’s a fuss in France because Patrick Dupond, a rather famous aging star ballet dancer who is no longer gay and is now in love with a woman said that, as far as he was concerned, his homosexuality was “an error”. MSM outlets are shrieking that his words are terrible, irresponsible, devastating…

http://www.parismatch.com/People/Patrick-Dupond-J-ai-decouvert-l-amour-avec-une-femme-1340954

AI: a woman (trans?) who appeared on my Twitter feed has been training an AI to detect Nazi images and speech patterns. I, for one, can’t wait for the SPLC to go cyber and sniff out racists on every thread in the Internet. You can’t argue with an AI: it just knows. Of course there may be a few false positives with those swastikas used in Asia, but I’m sure it can all be worked out. Isn’t technology awesome?

So, the engine for my nazi detection program works reliably, and I'd like to talk a little bit about it if that's ok with you. (thread)

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If you want a vision of the future, imagine a face, shooting itself in the foot, forever.

Schizophrenia has a heritability of 0.8

I’d research that with better sources.

P.S. Art Deco, please, just this once, admit you were wrong.

Wrong about what? I wasn’t asserting that there wasn’t a heritable influence. I was contesting the notion that heredity determines.

Interesting theory, but what would be the genetic mechanism? If the cause is genetic, then either the gays are reproducing, or their relatives are somehow propagating their genes.

SLEEPER- MILES NEEDS TO BORROW A SPACE HYDRO-VAC SUIT

I just read a book with a bunch of the Oscar Wild trial transcripts, and it was certainly common where he was. One of the chambermaids quit on the spot when she saw the state of the sheets the next morning. “The result of the act of sodomy is not unlike that of the enema”, as the book put it.

Psychology used to split male-to-female transsexuals into two groups:

1). homo-trannies who switch sexes to attract men, and

2). sufferers of “autogynophilia,” who are sexually aroused by the idea of being the opposite sex.

Unlike many another psychological concept, these actually make sense. No doubt any professional psychologist–or anyone on general, for that matter–promoting these ideas nowadays shall be unpersoned.

OT: Why is no one in jail for this?

LA Times, 09/08/17 – It’s been a year since the Wells Fargo scandal broke — and new problems are still surfacing

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-wells-fargo-one-year-20170908-story.html#nt=oft12aH-1la1

One year ago today, Wells Fargo & Co. made the stunning admission in a settlement with regulators that it created perhaps 2 million accounts for customers without their permission.

The disclosure ignited a scandal that led in a matter of weeks to the ouster of its chairman and chief executive, John Stumpf, and to a host of promised reforms, including the removal of onerous sales goals that were widely acknowledged to be the source of the problem.

But a year later, the scandal that started with outrage over sham accounts has ballooned and that sin is just one of many the San Francisco bank has either copped to or been accused of. An internal bank report reviewed by The Times shows that list could grow further still.

The report, produced for a risk-management committee that monitors Wells Fargo’s community bank — the business unit at the center of the accounts scandal — identifies several so-far undisclosed issues, all classified as “high risk.” They include improper fees charged on some accounts that were closed when the holders either died or were declared legally incompetent, a practice that dates to at least early last year.

Coupled with some of the bank’s recent admissions — including an audit that found the number of sham accounts may total 3.5 million — the report shows how the bank continues to uncover bad practices that previously went undetected or unaddressed…

On Sept. 8, 2016, Wells Fargo admitted to the fake-accounts fiasco and agreed to pay $185 million in fines and penalties to regulators, including the Los Angeles city attorney’s office. The bank’s practices were first uncovered by a 2013 Los Angeles Times investigation, which led to a 2015 lawsuit from City Atty. Mike Feuer.

Since then, though, the bank has acknowledged additional bad practices and is facing investigations and lawsuits over many more — and not just within the community banking division.

In July, the bank said it would pay $80 million in refunds to hundreds of thousands of auto-loan borrowers who were forced to pay for bank-purchased auto insurance policies despite having coverage of their own.

In an August regulatory filing, the bank reported that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is investigating two separate matters, including allegations that the bank improperly charged fees to mortgage borrowers when loan applications were delayed — a practice also alleged in two recent lawsuits.

Other suits filed over the last year allege a bevvy of additional problems, including improperly changing the terms of mortgage loans for bankrupt borrowers, signing up customers for unauthorized life insurance policies and overcharging small businesses for credit- and debit-card processing services…

Other matters identified as high risk are problems with how errors are reported at the branch level, a lack of proper notification when calls to customers are being recorded and problems with how stop-payments are processed, resulting in refunds to customers going unclaimed.

It seems to be a trend that quite a few “straight” women leave their marriages after 20+ years and take up with other women. It could be that they’re tired, being (pre-) menopausal, of being chased around by their husbands for sex and find a congenial relationship in Lesbian Bed Death.

I imagine many another factor besides the shape of the subjects’ faces was at play. Haircuts, the clothes they were wearing, maybe how the picture was taken, they way they posed. Possibly even objects in the background, decor of the room they were standing in, etc.

It wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever that gays have special rules about exactly how they post pictures to attract various things. Depending on where you place your thumb, for instance, you get a certain length of sideburns. In all seriousness, though, it wouldn’t have to be as specific as that for computers to pick up on.

I actually want to amend that statement. Human gaydar is usually applied in situations where there are other indicators apart from just appearance – speech, mannerisms, personal interests, and how they interact with you. Even with all that added data I doubt you could get many people to a 91% success rate, so that’s actually pretty impressive.

The usual comeback to this is that predators have advanced gaydar.

A goodly share of both were sexually abused by men while young. Males by gay or bisexual men, but girls by any old men. Very often stepfathers and boyfriends brought into the house by

But both categories conveniently end up being populated by people who wouldn’t attract the opposite sex well if they tried. (Despite lonely women’s pretence that “all the good ones are gay.”) Hmm.

I actually want to amend that statement. Human gaydar is usually applied in situations where there are other indicators apart from just appearance – speech, mannerisms, personal interests, and how they interact with you. Even with all that added data I doubt you could get many people to a 91% success rate, so that’s actually pretty impressive.

There’s also the fact that college kids, unlike computers, were raised in a pozzed culture. I tuned into the show This Is Us not long ago, unfortunately, and I thought all the male characters were gay. (Except one, who was only featured in flashbacks from the 70s.) Which was confusing, because they were shown in romantic situations with girls. Then I realized that most of them were supposed to be normal guys.

If you’re immersed in the MSM, which to an extent you are even when you only log onto the Dark Corners of the Internet like iSteve, you are surrounded by men acting like women, women acting like men, and everyone acting like homos. It’s confusing.

Real life experience is helpful. College kids singularly lack it. They’ve been conditioned out of the natural instincts free-for-all of elementary playgrounds, but they haven’t yet really left the cocoon, most of them.

Christina Ricci has one of the more prominent foreheads. Think of all the dating that she missed with the wrong hairstyle.

Your discussion including the section below made me ponder the next steps in CRISPR or similar genetic manipulation technologies.

The testosterone surge in males essentially lifted these “caps” on genes, allowing expression of male reproductive/mating behaviors

A similar tweaking of gene caps, or other mechanism, could be used to modify various physical characteristics, whether allopecia, obesity, diabetes or the Priss gene, LOL for black penile endowment. Those items are just some of the trillion dollar industries waiting to be born.

Interesting that you mention Conch Republic since Key West is a well known gay hangout. I know European homos that have vacationed there precisely because it’s a gay town.

My sole issue with the gays is the public health risk posed by anal sex. Human fecal matter is deadly – period. Otherwise, I’ve enjoyed (greatly) the extra availability of women created by removing so many men from the pool in towns like Key West, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Ann Arbor, NYC, and Boulder/JeffCo. Of course deporting the gays to Africa would result in the same extra availability while removing the public health risk and deporting all the buggerers would (to the observations I’ve made) also remove most of the Africans to their homeland as well – so a double benefit since those two groups are the primary disease vectors for most sexually transmitted diseases.

The other segment of the population that will do well at this is intelligent, straight good looking men who get hit on all the time, find it uncomfortable and learn to spot the gay mannerisms and look from experience (so as to avoid them).

It doesn’t work that way. Gay guys have super gaydar and apart from a weird minority that fetishize straight guys, generally don’t try to seduce straight guys.

What book was this, then?

Greg Louganis is no Rock Hudson. He is muscly like a ballet dancer.

An ex-girlfriend of mine was a dancer. She claimed that contrary to popular opinion, most male dancers were not gay; however, whether gay or straight, all men who became dancers did it in the first instance for sex, they were all promiscuous, and they never had trouble finding willing partners, whether they wanted men or women.

From which I conclude that Greg Louganis could have as many women as he wanted, if he wanted them.

Schizophrenia has a heritability of 0.8

I’d research that with better sources.

Like these?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826121/

The concordance rates of schizophrenia for monozygotic twins have been found to be about 40 to 50%, and heritability estimates are around 80% 46,47.

This one is interesting in that they get different results from twin and population studies: https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/doi/10.1093/schbul/sbw159/2549014/Familial-Aggregation-and-Heritability-of

Heritability, the degree of genetic contribution to phenotypic variance, has been estimated to range between 41% and 87%.7–13 In general, heritability estimates derived from twin studies are higher than those based on the general population. One estimate for heritability based on a meta-analysis of 12 twin studies was 81%.12 However, an estimate calculated from the population-based data of the Swedish Multi-generation Register was lower, though still substantial, at 64%.13

I tend to trust meta-studies (and twin studies are usually a good source of heritability estimates), but it would be interesting to understand the discrepancy.

This one links to a paper: https://plus.google.com/103530621949492999968/posts/AnXMiqKpSji

The probandwise concordance rate of schizophrenia is 33% in monozygotic (MZ) twins and 7% in dizygotic (DZ) twins. We estimated the heritability of schizophrenia to be 79%. When expanding illness outcome to include schizophrenia spectrum disorders, the heritability estimate was almost similar, 73%.

And back to you:

Wrong about what? I wasn’t asserting that there wasn’t a heritable influence. I was contesting the notion that heredity determines.

No reasonable person thinks heredity is completely deterministic for any even mildly complicated trait. Unless you are going Motte and Bailey on me that is not what “It’s not hereditary.” means. Perhaps you can clarify what exactly “It’s not hereditary” means to you? Is there a bound on the heritability values where that statement is and is not valid?

Would you also assert schizophrenia is “not hereditary”?

P.S. Thank you for helping me update my assessment of how seriously you take evidence presented to you. You really do seem to expect everyone to just take what you say on faith. Even when you don’t engage seriously with counterarguments and evidence.

What book was this, then?

This one: https://archive.org/details/trialofoscarwild00wildrich

Have you ever noticed how in so many stories about pedophiles they themselves were molested as children?

They often seem claim that in their own defense, but I cannot understand the logic at all. Surely if you were sexually molested as a child and hated it, you would absolutely not want to inflict the same thing on children when you were grown up. And even if you were sexually aroused when molested as a child by an adult, why would you be sexually aroused as an adult by the idea of sex with a child?

I think for a lot of men (and women) being gay is a lifestyle choice. It is just one step up from solo masturbation, with the addition of an extra pair of hands, a mouth, and possibly other apertures, but makes it possible to avoid the responsibility of raising children, contributing to school fundraisers, spending Thanksgiving with the in-laws, and attending school functions. Without children health insurance is much cheaper. You can also take vacations and travel at any time of year without being tied to school holidays.

For many men who don’t have women falling all over them, it is probably a rational choice if you don’t mind the opprobrium, or can live and work in a milieu where you are accepted. For many women who are not attractive to men, having a female partner for mutual masturbation and shopping with zero risk of pregnancy is better than being alone. Women used to join convents for the same reasons.

My theory: Mothers are much more likely to know that their son is gay than fathers. From infancy and continuing through adulthood, if her child looks at something, a mother will commonly look to see what he’s looking at. They eventually notice that he looks at men a lot more than he looks at women. Fathers usually don’t do that and tend to notice a lot less often.

Similarly, the friends of 6’5″ WNBA star Lisa Leslie found her a 6′-7″ black guy who is a cargo jet pilot to marry.

I thought that scene with Lew Kareem was a joke.

Don’t pilots face height limits? Is cargo exempt?

Are cargo cults exempt?

OT, but it appears that the Huffington Post and Salon have not reported on this yet. They will have to come up with a spin first and blame it on whitey. The left will remain silent for at least a couple of days then there will be breathless reports about how gays will get a backlashed, again and again; harder, harder.

This show talks about an interesting study:

starting at about 6:53.

They sat an equal number of gays and straights in front of a camera and had them talk about the weather. Then they removed the sound track and ran the video through a program that converted it to line drawings so that the viewer could see the subjects’ movements but not hear their voices or distinguish their facial features and clothing styles. Just from watching how the subject moved, viewers were able to determine which were straight and which were gay/lesbian with more than 80% accuracy.

Apparently, they also played back the sound track without any video and found that people were able to tell gay from straight men with good accuracy just by hearing their voices without seeing them.

By the way, many episodes of this series can be seen on youtube. A very entertaining attack on political correctness of many varieties.

That may be, but if McConnell hadn’t maneuvered like he did, Garland would be on the Supreme Court and the Heller decision would be overturned, stripping Americans of their gun rights. He saved our civilization as far as I am concerned.

Will AI give us thug face, conservative face, liberal face, etc?

This experiment begs a really obvious question: Can AI detect pedoface?

Which begs an even bigger question: What is the overlap between sodomite and pedophile populations? This would be an easy experiment to conduct because certainly there are many photos of convicted pedophiles on the interwebs.

Which begs the biggest question of all: What percent of Republicucks in Congress are pedos?

#questionsthatgobegging

“And they verified the status of their subjects just how and defined ‘gay’ just how?”

You nervous bro?

Randomly choose 1,000 men. Roughly 970 will be straight and 30 (3%) will be gay. Since the algorithm is 91% accurate, it will generate 9% errors or false positives. So for the 970 straight men in the sample, the algorithm will erroneously declare 87 of them gay, almost 300% off from the correct number of 30!

Additionally, the algorithm has been shown to work only on dating-site images, not on facial images in general.

Dorner discovered it, but it didn’t actually take place.

“Therefore the tribe evolved a mechanism for preventing competition for women from escalating into violence between men: homosexual men.

These feminine men were an outlet for the aggression and unmet sexual needs of the tribe’s men.”

Cool story bruh. I’m pretty sure God gave us hands for that purpose, not other men’s lower digestive systems. I don’t care how long the dry spell lasted, I have never wanted to stick it in a man’s feces evacuation hole. Beyond repugnant.

#bornthatway

I wonder whose photos they used to first calibrate the machine? I’m reminded of a documentary I saw on the early days of aircraft mounted radar. The team went up and flew around a harbour trying to detect first small boats and then larger and larger ships but it still wasn’t working. The scientists told the pilot “find a bigger ship!”. He responded “that last one was the Queen Mary“. So who was the AI gaydar’s first Queen Mary? Who first made it ping? I’ll bet plucked eyebrows were involved.

Skin color is almost certainly the most predictive factor.

After that distance between eyes, probably. Tatoos. Scars. Missing teeth. Very few pedophiles have detached earlobes, I think I remember hearing. Other facial bone structure, signifying both race and testosterone exposure. Size of neck. Some people honestly look like pitbulls. I wouldn’t be surprised if eye color counts too, as women commit less violent crime and blue-eyed men typically have relatively more feminine faces.

It wouldn’t surprise me if some mental illnesses had “looks.”

Therefore the tribe evolved a mechanism for preventing competition for women from escalating into violence between men: homosexual men.

End to end B.S. Again homosexuality is not a hunter-gatherer “thing”. It’s a post-settlement, post-Neolithic thing.

If you want some more reasonable discussion of possible theories, cue up Cochran.

https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/

(Note: I don’t think this is determinative, but it’s sensible.)

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Successful tribes did indeed develop a male-sexual-competition mitigation mechanism. It’s called … “marriage”. Basically “one per customer” mating instead of winner take all. Presumably the winners who tried “winner take all” had a habit of waking up with a spear in their back more equitable sharing arrangements were developed that helped tribal solidarity and success.

This was only heightened by higher levels of civilization which in turn required longer maturation. So you find that civilized peoples have very high levels of natural sexual bonding.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Oxytocin

(Unfortunately we’ve kicked this into reverse and having been headed toward sloppy African style sexual mores.)

No. The AI assesses two sets of images and must decide which set is the normal person and which is the sodomite. Because otherwise, yes, it would be easy enough to just choose “normal” every time the AI assesses a single image and be correct 97 to 98% of the time.

It’s impressive that it correctly chooses the normal person and the sodomite 91% of the time — that’s way beyond the 50/50 predicted solely by chance. The experimental methodology is sound.

Ha ha, Sailer’s nervous: he doesn’t want to in any way explore the nexus of child molestation (specifically the rape of boys) and sodomites. Some topics are taboo for even the hateyest of alt-right thinkers…

One big question would be if it can guess the gay identical twin. I’ll bet it could with an MRI, but I wonder whether it would be possible just from the face, given enough resolution.

Back in the day this could have been a major tool for blackmailers.

I’m not one of those people who think Hitler was gay, but I wonder whether this would work on historical photos.

lol……must be lot of interest in this….lots of comments here on computers sussing out the gay face/gay faces and how about the lesbian face?

Next for AI…. the Alpha face. Does Putin have it? Donald Trump has it.

You’d find a retrocomputer meet a complete blast then. I’ve been to several, and you see all types, including a fair number of fairly blatant M2F trannies that fit the autogynephilic meme to a tee. “Burger Becky” who used to be Burger Bill, for instance.

Rebecca Ann Heineman (born William Salvador Heineman) is an American video game programmer. A long-time veteran of the computer game industry (originally credited mostly as Bill Heineman), Heineman was a founding member of Interplay Productions, Logicware, and Contraband Entertainment. She has also been affiliated at various times with Barking Lizards Technologies, Electronic Arts, Bloomberg, Microsoft, MacPlay and Ubisoft, among other game companies. Heineman works as the CEO[1] of Olde Skuul in Seattle, Washington.

However, unlike, say, high end audio, which is full of mincing and flaming homosexual males, you rarely see gay acting gay men.

VMS was (and still is) a great environment for what it was designed for, but the VAX platform, which was state of the art when it was designed, fell way behind on CPU power. They did migrate it to the superb 64 bit Alpha platform, but by then the company was senile in its management, and it was bought out by Compaq. They had no idea what to do with it and were themselves bought by HP, who during the Broad Restructuring mismanaged both its own and the new intellectual assets and technologies, betting the farm on Itanic, which flopped over like a dead mackerel.

VMS is still out there:

http://www.vmssoftware.com/

It also extends past birth in humans.

I wonder if there is a connection to the state of the testes. Now that they are outside of the mother’s body, they have the temperature to function

This is the most sensible comment so far.

I followed this for years. Mitch is anti-amnesty and did his best to block and slow open borders bills.

You can’t blame him for not stopping everything. Though in the end, no amnesty bill actually passed congress to go to Bush/Obama’s desk to sign, did it? Not even one.

Sometimes he was the MINORITY leader, and even when the GOP had a majority, it was still 45-49 Dems who favor amnesty + 20-25 GOPs who favor amnesty.