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A letter from the former President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, in 2017:


In the name of God, The Compassionate, The Merciful

… To: His Excellency, Mr. Donald John Trump

The president of the United States of America


… 8- The developments and the current existence of America today is the result of immigration of a variety of nations to that land. The presence and constructive effort of the elite and scientists of different nations, including the million-plus population of my Iranian compatriots has had a major role in the development of the US. It is necessary that the spirit of the policies ruling the US, value respect toward the diversity of nations and races. In other words, the contemporary US belongs to all nations, including the natives of the land. No one may consider themselves the owner, and view others as guests or immigrants.

… And peace on the righteous servants of God

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

In service of the Iranian nation

Source: Fars News Agency

Interesting question: Who is closer to the American Establishment’s conventional wisdom on “Who are the owners of America?”

Trump or Ahmadinejad?

And here’s the late Col. Muammer Gadafphee’s similarly mainstream (and presciently gender-neutral) take on the question of “Who Is the America?”

America is not only for the whites, but it is for all. Who is the America? The American is you, me, and that. When we go to America we will become Americans and there is no a race or nationalism called America and the Americans are those Africans, Indians, Chinese, and Europeans and whoever goes to America will become American…. American is for all of us and the whole world had made and created America. All the people all over the world had made America and it shall accordingly be for all of us.

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  1. Someone buy this guy a ticket home. He seems nice, and is the first to admit his coming to Canada was a mistake.

    Homeless immigrant builds ‘magnificent’ Winnipeg shack after promise of better life in Canada falls through

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @Alden
  2. OT:

    ‘Meth-gators’: Tennessee police warn flushing drugs could create hyper-aggressive alligators

    Google is blacklisting ‘blacklist’: Search giant’s leaked ‘respectful code’ policy shows effort to remove references to ‘master,’ ‘slave,’ ‘trumpssh’ and more from programming language

    Google acknowledged some words might be too ingrained to be taken out, like ‘trumpssh,’ which was not clearly defined or stated where and how it’s been used

    Specific terms to be taken out include ‘master/slave’ references, ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’ and ‘redlining.’

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  3. That statement makes me a little less against bombing the crap out of em than I was yesterday. By “em”, I mean just Mr Ahmadinejad, the stupid bastard.

  4. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:


    The Myth of the Kindly General Lee
    The legend of the Confederate leader’s heroism and decency is based in the fiction of a person who never existed.
    The Atlantic |

    Adam Serwer

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    , @Reg Cæsar
  5. anon[436] • Disclaimer says:

    Then what exactly are these guys in the military fighting and dying for? A paycheck? Think about that the next time someone tells you to go and fight and die somewhere for something.

  6. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:

    One area where Muslims agree with Jews at least in rhetoric.

    But on closer inspection, something else is up..

    Three Americas:

    1. White-owned nation.

    2. Jewish-owned nation.

    3. World-owned nation.

    Preferably, it should be #1, but that America is fading fast.

    So, that leaves #2 and #3.

    Currently, the US is #2 pretending to be #3.

    A true case of #3 is preferable to #2 because it is more fair and just. If the US insists on being a World Power, it should belong to the world as it meddles with every nation. It should not speak about the world while serving the Tribe. Current US preaches human rights for all mankind while doing the narrow supremacist bidding of Zionists.

    Trump implicitly won over white support by selling #1, but his administration is the continuation of #2.

    Trumpers dream of #1 but must make do with #2.
    Progs pontificate about #3 but end up serving #2.

    So, when Gaddy and Admani say the US should belong to the world, they are really saying the US shouldn’t just belong to Jews. Stupid whites handed their nation to the Jews as new masters.

    Just ask the Palestinians.

    Muslims are eager for the US to belong to the world because they got burned so badly by the US belonging to Jews.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  7. Flip says:

    “We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.

    But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn’t doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here…

    We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.”

    Theodore Roosevelt

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  8. Collectively we in North America told the world this literally hundreds of thousands of times, in our classrooms, newspapers, books, broadcasts, films and speeches. Should we really be shocked that they took us at our word?

    • Agree: Cortes
  9. President Donald J. Trump. Hard at work.

  10. Obama’s Auntie Zeituni expressed similar sentiments when challenged on the fact she was staying in public housing on disability payments as an illegal immigrant. at the 1-minute mark.*

    I suspect that the Zeituni/Ahmadinejad/Qaddafi view of US sovereignty (i.e., US actually belongs to all of us because reasons) is the majority view in the third world. Of course we are encouraging the false doctrine with multiculturalism at home and universalism and interventionism abroad.

    So just like the Elite+Underclass hi-lo domestic vertical attack on the heritage American middle, there is an Inside Beltway + Outer Fringes near-far global horizontal attack on heritage American nationality. But you already know this.

    *[Apparently Youtube now ignores “?t=xxx” time codes probably because it allows viewers to skip too much.]

    • Replies: @Cortes
  11. @JohnnyWalker123

    Trump is play 14D chess.

    Trust the plan.


    • Replies: @Hail
  12. Guess those founding fathers were secret Muslims since it took almost 250 yrs for an Iranian to explain our principles of governance to us. Did I mention that Iranians give me the willies?

    Anyway, I have a document stating that Iran belongs to me. I’m in no hurry to cash in on this legacy.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
  13. anon[145] • Disclaimer says:

    An open letter to Donald Trump from a representative of the Tapeworm community.

  14. SFG says:

    And you guys think Israel is bad.

    • Troll: BengaliCanadianDude
    • Replies: @Alvin
  15. Alfa158 says:

    Sounds promising to me.
    Surely this means that Trump will follow up by ordering the release of the RAM political prisoners Greg Conte is writing about who have been railroaded in Charlottesville. He will, won’t he?

  16. nebulafox says:

    “Iran belongs to all nations.”

    You know, that’d include the Jews.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    , @Redneck farmer
  17. Quadafiya was a great hero who gave his countrymen free health care, education, and many other excellent benefits associated only with Scandinavian nations. Even better, he was trying to nationalize the oil and create a Pan-African bank to undermine the hegemony of the youknowwho banks.

    And thus he had to die. And you probly like it. You are against common people living well in peace, and you are all for Western imperial hegemony.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  18. Alvin says:

    I don’t care if any other country is good or bad, whatever that means. But I do care when our leaders do the bidding of another country or put their interests above ours…all to our detriment. On that score, Ilhan is the real American in Congress and only one not a traitor.

    • Replies: @SFG
  19. donut says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I can see your point but you know it’s not Persia we should be bombing .

  20. L Woods says:

    No. They’re fighting for a paycheck, a tax-free housing allowance, heavily subsidized healthcare and a defined pension.

  21. dr kill says:

    And non cis of all ages.

  22. Jake says:

    Those Mohammedans understand how to keep America on the path of suicide.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. @Anonymous

    And to think Abraham Lincoln asked him to command the United States Army.

  24. inertial says:

    That’s a pretty common attitude in the Old World. “We, Old Worlders, stole America from the Indians fair and square, so now it belongs to all of us whether we happened to move there or not.”

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Bragadocious
  25. Hail says: • Website

    What will he do if “ASAP Rocky” makes an anti-Semitic comment?

    The dilemmas of being Donald ‘Blumpf’ Trump.

  26. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Google is run by idiots. Even the open-source community is suffering an SJW infestation.

  27. AndrewC says:

    Is the IRS part of the bundle? If so, when will the whole world start filing 1040s?

  28. @Anonymous

    Zionist power in the US is especially ingrained because of the Scofield-brainwashed Christian Zionists. Someday Americans will realize people like Hagee for the demonic traitors they are.

  29. @miss marple

    Even Iran doesn’t want these immigrants.

  30. @obwandiyag

    And, if I understand correctly, Qadaffi was helping prevent the flood of African welfare migrants to Europe that happened after his death. Not a bad guy in my view!

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  31. @inertial

    I’ve never heard anyone say anything like that. People say a lot of stupid things but I’ve never heard that one.

  32. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:

    Those Mohammedans understand how to keep America on the path of suicide.

    Muslims, especially those targeted by Zionists, are one people who have every reason and justification to desire a US that is owned by the world. These people were minding their own business and trying to form their own nations. But US installed the Shah in Iran. US aided in the destruction of Palestine and has continued Zionist erasure of remaining Palestinian areas. US has worked with the Saudis to spread terrorism and mess up entire nations, culminating in Obama’s ruination of Liyba, Syria, and Yemen. When the US does the bidding of Jewish tribalists who destroy entire nations and when white Americans do nothing to resist this madness or blindly go along, the world would be a better place if the US sank into the ocean or if really did belong to the world. If the US belonged to Muslims(and others) as well as to Jews, at the very least it would do far less harm around the world. If Iranian-Americans, Palestinian-Americans, and Muslim-Americans were as powerful as Jewish-Americans — if the US belong as much to them as to Jews — , then, at the very least, the US would not be able to push for Wars for Israel that have been the greatest crimes of the 21st century. Jewish power in the US would be balanced by Muslim power.

    The only way the US has a right to remain a distinct and autonomous nation is by minding its own affairs and respecting the sovereignty of other nations. But if the US must be a world power telling others what to do, then there is no reason why the US should be ruled by Jews only. It should be owned and ruled by peoples from all over the world. And all those whites who failed to resist the New World Order have no right to complain. They let their elites invade and ruin other nations. What goes around, comes around.

    Looking back to the moment right after the Cold War, it now seems Ross Perot was right about the most important things.

  33. @anon

    Then what exactly are these guys in the military fighting and dying for? A paycheck?

    Why not? Many soldiers in the past have done just that, from Roman legionnaires to medieval English bowmen to Renaissance-era Swiss pikemen and German Landsknechts.

    One of the most serious problems in the horrific 30 Years’ War was that the combatants were mostly mercenaries who were in it for the pay and plunder, and who therefore were not especially interested in applying Just War Theory to carefully distinguish legitimate military targets from innocent civilians.

    But there’s little indication that mercenaries were hesitant to fight at the risk of their lives. There are examples of mercenary armies pushing for battle even though their side was at an obvious disadvantage. They wanted to get it over with, get paid, and go home for a while.

  34. Cortes says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Zeituni = Olive, like Popeye’s squeeze.

  35. @Cagey Beast

    Collectively we in North America told the world this literally hundreds of thousands of times, in our classrooms, newspapers, books, broadcasts, films and speeches. Should we really be shocked that they took us at our word?

    Great comment. The USA has had ‘Nation of Immigrants! More always welcome!!!’ printed on its business card for decades.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  36. @inertial

    One of the refrains I heard a lot from Irish and British people during the 2016 presidential election is that they deserve a vote. Their reasoning: America, as the big swinging dick of world affairs, affects their daily lives. Of course, that doesn’t work both ways, like when the Irish try to game our immigration laws or the Brits try to start WW3 with the Russian collusion nonsense.

  37. @JohnnyWalker123

    Total bullshit that Trump is trying to bailout this idiot rapper. All US citizens must obey the local laws when they go abroad, the same way we expect visitors to the US to obey our laws. If this guy were white Trump would never have bothered.

    As if it isn’t bad enough that we are so indulgent of black crime in our own country to the point they are practically above the law, now we want other countries to indulge them as well. Absolutely ridiculous. I hope Sweden doesn’t cave.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    , @Anonymous
  38. I’m going to stop defending Iran.

    Bomb them.

  39. Hail says: • Website
    @Cagey Beast

    Disagree with the following part of your comment:


    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Anonymous
  40. SFG says:

    I agree, I was mostly trolling the hardcore anti-Zionists here. Israel’s way too influential, but they’re not actually trying to wreck us–if anything they want us big and strong to have a useful ally.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  41. istevefan says:

    Israel’s way too influential, but they’re not actually trying to wreck us–if anything they want us big and strong to have a useful ally.

    They don’t need to try to wreck us. The diaspora is doing it. If they really wanted to help keep us strong, they could start by calling off the diaspora.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  42. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Definitely sad if true, but it would be interesting to know how much of his story is true(God knows you can’t rely on the CBC to do any fact-checking these days). He says he’s been living there for a year.

    For one thing, despite the fact that Winnipeg isn’t actually that far south, it gets seriously cold in the winter. The average low in January is -21 Celsius(or -6.5 Fahrenheit) and most winters would get down around -31 Fahrenheit for a few nights. The article and picture suggests that the hut is built into a ravine or ditch, which would provide some shelter against the howling prairie winds, but that leads us to potential problem number two:

    Southern Manitoba tends to have flooding problems in the spring. I’m not familiar with that particular area, but creek beds usually swell a fair amount during the thaw, and Winnipeg has a lot of infrastructure designed to direct waters away from built up areas and into the sorts of place where that shack is built.

    It also brings up questions about how he got into Canada in the first place. The article only mentions sponsors, which suggests that he wasn’t part of the economic immigrant pathway(the much lauded “selective” immigration pathway that only accounts for about 1 in 4 immigrants to Canada).

    Was he part of the family reunification scheme? The temporary foreign workers scheme? There was also the rather notorious live-in caregiver scheme from around the time period he arrived which was later scrapped because it was dysfunctional even by the standards of government programs. This was meant to bring mainly Filipino women to act as caregivers, but the Filipino community in Canada scammed it to bring in relatives, many employers used the lack of mobility to abuse their maids, and the government was constantly switching the goalposts regarding which Filipino credentials would be recognized. It also led to large numbers of Filipino mothers leaving their young families, joining the program and staying in Canada for over a decade until they could bring over their children, who by that time were in their mid teens. As a result, the Toronto school boards found themselves with Filipino 16-17 year olds who showed up for the end of high school with no experience being educated in English. Not surprisingly, their graduation rates weren’t great, which the local liberal media then blamed on Toronto’s notoriously liberal teachers.

    It would also be very interesting to know the demographics of Winnipeg’s public housing and homeless shelters. If they’re anything like the ones in Toronto and Montreal, they’re probably filled to the brim with border-hopping Africans via the US, or Somalis who keep having children regardless of whether they can support them. Plus the usual First Nations contingent, who should get first dibs by virtue of being indigenous and trying to get off the reserves.

  43. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’d bet big money that Ahmadinejad is a especially vile homosexual.

  44. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Eventually Arabs, Persians, and whatnot will have rudder authority in the US exceeding the Jews’ simply because there are more of them than Jews and they won’t cuck. But it will damage the Americn nation more than the Jews-as Jews. They are only interested in staying a cohesive people and “Anti-Semitism” helps keep them cohesive. They are happy to have you pay that price for them, you beast of burden, you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  45. @Flip

    But Glenn Beck assures me TR was a bad guy!

  46. @nebulafox

    I’ve read there is a Jewish community in Iran. Not a big one, but it’s there.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Alden
  47. There was a 3 decade immigration ban after the Red Scare [1] of 1917 and following years.

    The first Red Scare was apparently started by the Bolshevik takeover of what had been Imperial Russia, and was intensified by various domestic activities, to include raids, extensive deportations, bombing Wall Street, the Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti case, various riots, etc.

    Apparently, this was enough to scare the US ruling class that it might be next after the Czar, immigration was stopped, and that gave the US enough unity to survive WW II.

    The second Red Scare came about in the 1950s when it was realized just how much the USSR/Communists had infiltrated American government [2,3,4] even after immigration had been stopped. The second Red Scare was justified according to Soviet archives after 1990, but yielded no legislation; in particular, it did not stop the resumption of immigration in the late 1960s.

    In summary, immigration from 1890 onwards established various American resident groups that wanted to change the basis of American government and population composition. The first Red Scare slowed down, but did not stop, these groups from actually changing American government, which proved incapable of reaching a stable agreeement with these groups (or the USSR) and was gradually transformed into a near twin of the USSR during the Cold War. The US gradually transformed itself in to a near war economy, and the USSR tried, but failed, to transform itself _from_ a war economy into an autarkic production economy. At present, the US war economy is becoming unstable (as had the USSR’s economy) and a reorganization of the US can be expected.

    Cutting off immigration and widespread deportation of hostiles has been done before in the US. The US population doesn’t like open borders or further immigration, and doesn’t really care what US propaganda and Hollywood films said about the subject.
    If Iran thinks the US belongs to it (and the world), well, that’s a conflict, but that’s all it is. It’s a small thing compared to US internal difficulties.

    One could make as good a case as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s that Iran belongs to the US, and, in fact, such a case was for Iraqi before the invasion. One learns to disregard the plausible lies.


    This article gives principal dates, but is otherwise (IMHO) not a reliable source.




    • Agree: jim jones
  48. @donut

    Not Persia, one Persian, but I get your general point, Donut.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  49. @Anonymous

    “The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. “

    Damned bleeding heart.

    Lee’s decision to fight for the South can only be described as a choice to fight for the continued existence of human bondage in America…

    Lee’s decision to fight for the South can only be described as a choice to fight for the continued existence of human [biodiversity] in America.

    FIFA. ( “A”= Adam.)

    …even though for the Union, it was not at first a war for emancipation.

    It was never a war for our emancipation– from that biodiversity.

    The presence of black soldiers on the field of battle shattered every myth the South’s slave empire was built on: the happy docility of slaves, their intellectual inferiority, their cowardice, their inability to compete with whites…

    …their need for gun control…

    …the KKK, and were known by the local Freedmen’s Bureau to attempt to abduct and rape black schoolgirls from the nearby black schools.

    The KKK were coalburners? They liked brown sugar?

    This is the harshest charge I’ve ever heard made against them. Vile sex perverts.

    Lee died in 1870, as Democrats and ex-Confederates were commencing a wave of terrorist violence…

    When will Democrats be made to pay the price for their terrorism? Just a question, Adam.

  50. WTF, I love John Bolton now.

  51. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    I disagree. While Muslims can become a real force in Europe, I don’t see them gaining much power in the US because Hindus, blacks, and Mesos will outnumber them.

  52. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    Looks like Ahmad agrees with Dubya and McCain about what America is about.

    Too bad Dubby and Macky never got along with Ahmady.

    In a way, Admad is closer to the American Dream than Dubby and Macky were.

    Dubby and Macky said America belongs to the world but acted on the premise that it belongs to Jews. A huge contradiction.

    In contrast, Ahmad really and truly believes America should be a world nation where all groups are equal.

    Now, because US is a white creation, it should remain a white nation. But if whites have gone nuts and decided to give away their great awesome creation to the world, I say let the world share it equally and fairly. Don’t let Jews hog US world policy. Let’s hear it for the Palestinians and Iranians. And Russians.

  53. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    I detect an element of trolling in the letter.

    Me thinks this was his facial expression while writing it.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  54. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    The mesos tend to be passive and ineffective-they’re unsightly, crap all over the place, and mooch tax money, but not a political force. Blacks are too dumb to be anything but a tool. Arabs will be bigger than Jews as a force through sheer numbers and belligerence. They also will Name The Jew loudly and often, making dynamic silence impossible. it’s like a nuclear sub with hundreds of remoralike noisemaking fish on its hull. The sub is mighty, but all those noisemakers mean the boat can’t be stealthy. So topside ships and other subs can hear it.

  55. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Someone buy this guy a ticket home. He seems nice, and is the first to admit his coming to Canada was a mistake.

    Interesting fact: Canada sometimes pays illegals to go home. Back of the envelope: $5,000 to 10 million people would only be $50 billion. Combined with assistance with moving and the like, this might be enough to get rid of a big chunk of illegals if there were a credible threat of much worse stuff to follow, such as confiscation of assets and imprisonment.

    Of course, we would need a wall and a computerized immigration system that would have all their retinal scans to make sure they don’t come back.

    Paying illegals, and maybe helping with job development, housing, and education in their home countries, would rub a lot of people the wrong way. That is its genius. It’s the classic Nixon in China move, completely throwing opponents off balance.

    As long as we make sure they are permanently ineligible for entry into the U.S. for any reason.

  56. @Anonymous

    The only way the US has a right to remain a distinct and autonomous nation is by minding its own affairs and respecting the sovereignty of other nations. But if the US must be a world power telling others what to do, then there is no reason why the US should be ruled by Jews only.

    Try telling them that. They’ll be right back with “Oh, little old us? There’s no possible way we could rule this great big wonderful diverse nation, we’re only 2% of the population! Also, stop trying to look behind the curtain you Nazi!”

    Then they’ll point out that they have installed a fair number of stepin-fetchit shabbas goys in various positions. And if you know what’s good for you, you’ll behave just like them.

    Anyway, enough about that, amirite? Look what’s on Netflix!

  57. @Hail

    I knew someone would. No, it is “we” because the rest of us didn’t stop the people shooting their mouths off in this way. Maybe we couldn’t? Maybe we didn’t care enough? Maybe we half thought we could afford to be generous? Whatever the reason, it was the collective “we” Canadians and Americans who co-signed this blank cheque and threw it at the world’s feet. The fact that some of us were grumbling under our breath counts for nothing. We’re on the hook for this.

    Ironically, after inviting the world in, the word “we” means even less than it did when we started on this path, about fifty years ago.

  58. nebulafox says:
    @Redneck farmer

    From Cyrus to the Pahlavis, Iran has historically been a rather philo-Semitic and generally deeply cultured place.

    It’s quite sad what the mullahs did with it.

  59. anonymous1963 [AKA "anon19"] says:

    Those “immigrants” were actually settlers and they were all from Europe.

  60. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Arabs will be bigger than Jews as a force through sheer numbers and belligerence.

    Mesos have white Latinos to lead them, and white Latinos are not without ability.

    Arabs are pretty useless. Just look how all them Arabs got drubbed by tiny Israel so many times.

    Many Muslims in the US will not be Arab but Pakistanis and the like, and they have no special animus against Israel and will happily work with Jews for more immigration.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anonymous
  61. Anonymous[426] • Disclaimer says:

    Ordinary Americans are finding themselves in the same position that ordinary Germans found themselves in the middle of 1944: It’s suddenly dawned on them that the people running their country are insane and are going to get them all killed.

    But what to do, what to do?

  62. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, Ahmadinejad would never take that view with his own native homeland, or even suggest that Iran’s hydrocarbon reserves – its only real source of wealth – ‘belong to all humanity’. In fact they made a big show of kicking out BP – who developed the Iranian oil industry – from Iran.

  63. Altai says:

    And yet strangely this logic never works for Ireland, Finland etc.

  64. What Obama, Sarkozy et al did to Gaddhafi was thoroughly dishonorable. The dude apologized for the PAN AM bombing and providing recompensation and gave up his weapons program in 2003.

    What was done to is simply betrayal. There is a special place in hell coming for those who break their word and stab their allies in the back. And that hell is now coming to America and Europe.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  65. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Still early days.

    Open borders – what the elites want, and will foist (count in it) – plus exponential growth, can work surprisingly rapidly.

  66. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Not true.

    Pakistanis are strongly anti semitic.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  67. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Why doesn’t The Economist editorial board offer him a job?

    He’ll fit right in like a hand to a glove.

  68. @istevefan

    The love story between the diaspora and Israel came to an end in the 1980s when Israel starting going full rightwing with their economics and foreign policy and even bleeding heart Rabin spoke of breaking Palestinian bones.
    Most American Jews who are secular dont care that much for Israel. They dont even care for Judaism as such. How many even keep kosher. They just want the diversity /victimhood points.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Alden
  69. @Anonymous

    I dont know why but Arabs arent causing any trouble in South America. The political establishment of Chile, Nicaragua,Argentina and Brazil often reads like a phonebook from Haifa and Beirut. But they are totally assimilated and consider themselves to culturally Iberian. Some even ditch Islam and adopt Catholicism like the former President of Argentina.
    THe Anglo countries have a serious problem with Arab assimilation while the Latins dont. Why is that? I sure as hell dont know.

  70. Svevlad says:

    There is one important difference here.

    When the leftists say “America for everyone” it’s a statement of what they want.

    When the Arabs say such a thing, it’s an observation.

  71. Makes on wonder how the West’s Roark’s Drift will turn out.

    “They’ve got a very good bass section, but no top tenors, that’s for sure.”

    • Replies: @Alden
  72. @Dr Van Nostrand

    THe Anglo countries have a serious problem with Arab assimilation while the Latins dont. Why is that? I sure as hell dont know.

    Maybe the Levant is less Arab than Mediterranean? There’s a famous article from the New Yorker a few generations ago — by A.J. Liebling — that describes New Orleans as an offshoot of the Mediterranean’s Hellenistic world. Similarly, in Tom Wolfe’s “Back to Blood,” somebody wonders if the 90 IQ Miami Cuban cop Nestor Camacho knows that he’s named after a character in Homer’s “The Iliad.” He replies that of course everybody knows the story of the Trojan War.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    , @Alden
  73. LondonBob says:
    @Amy Wax Rocks

    The Swedish media has been hysterical over Trump’s comments about the gang of four, this rapper thing has fried their brains as now they have to defend prosecuting a violent black.

    • Replies: @Alden
  74. Handle says:

    Koichi Toyama said something similar during the 2008 campaign:

    (a little re-translating)

    “I researched the electoral system, hoping to run for President of the United States. But apparently, not only am I barred from running, it seems I am also unable to vote! What is the meaning of this?! As I’m sure you are aware, the truth is that American currently comprises the entire world … I truly love America, and I’m proud to be an American. Well, I was proud. Then I discovered I couldn’t vote. My fatherland has betrayed me! … Although the population of American is six billion, fewer than two hundred million can vote! Our America! Isn’t it supposed to be democracy? But at the moment, only 1/30th of its citizens get to make the decisions. What kind of democracy is that?! … This is my message to everyone in the world: you are all Americans! …”

  75. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Perhaps their families were Christians invited to leave by their Muslim neighbors in the levant and never converted to Islam to begin with.

  76. @anon

    They’re fighting so that the pre-Americans who don’t know they want to immigrate to America can get America* anyway.

    *America is now a socio-economic system that favors transfers of wealth upwards and downwards from the middle.

  77. @Anonymous

    Yeah. I imagine he reads iSteve and saw one of the posts about Kaffafi and thought, “Eureka!”

  78. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Ahmadinejad should have concluded by quoting John Lennon when he was in the same mind set that all divisions between nations, peoples, religions must be erased and the entire world must become “one”:

    [Verse 1]
    Imagine there’s no heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us, only sky
    Imagine all the people living for today

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope some day you’ll join us
    And the world will live as one

    [Verse 2]
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope some day you’ll join us
    And the world will live as one”

    I respond:

    Please understand that John Lennon and Yoko were living in the Dakota on Central Park West in Manhattan NYC – the most expensive building on the most expensive street in the most expensive city in the USA/world. So John Lennon wasn’t exactly giving up all his possessions to become “one” with the worlds billions of poor people. And somehow I doubt John and Yoko were inviting the entire world to come live in his posh pad in the Dakota.

    The globalists who demand that we tear down all our nation borders and accept any and all with no restrictions on numbers, Ebola infections to move to here to the United States, they always live their own private lives in luxury heavily guarded places. Check out where George Soros and George Clooney live in their many palaces.

  79. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    This is true. Pakistani and other related Muslims all vote identical to Jews in the USA, UK, Europe – they vote for the most anti White Lib Leftist parties. Even among Arabs in America they have mostly put the Palestinian issue on the back burner or just given up on this issue. Saudi Arabia Israel and the American Jewish lobby are on the same side in everything that matters, both Saudi Arabia and Israel took ~ 0 Syrian war refugees, yet Israel – the Lib Leftist Jewish elite demanded that Germany, Sweden, Western Europe and the United States MUST accept virtual unlimited numbers of Muslim migrants. Saudi Arabia generously offered to build 200 + Mosques in Germany for these million plus Muslim migrants.

    The alliance between Saudi Arabia, Israel the Arab and Jewish diasporas is best symbolized by the sham marriage of Anthony Wiener (Sexting pervert dubbed to be NYC mayor) and Hillary Clinton’s Saudi Arab chief of staff – certainly a strong case for birth control.

  80. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I have to disagree.

    Arabs and most all Muslims have traditionally been on the same side against Whites.

    Jews were expelled from Spain or forced to convert to Catholic Christianity under the Inquisition because Jews took the Muslim Arab Moor side against Whites, serving as the Muslim occupiers tax collectors, selling White girls in to sexual slavery, prostitution to Arab Muslim buyers.

  81. No. America was founded by white people of European descent. If it had been founded and created by everybody, as Ahmadinejad claims, the country from its inception would have been a mix of Third World and First World ideas. It is a First World country because of First World ideas that Europeans brought with them.

    It will cease to be a fully developed country once white people are replaced (genocide) through massive immigration and forced assimilation.

  82. @anon

    Uh, yes 95 percent of them are fighting and dying for a paycheck. And cheap healthcare, housing and preference points for lucrative federal government jobs.

    Soldiers are only patriots when we fight patriotic wars. In the 20th century WWII was the only patriotic war. Otherwise war is a mercenary venture, and you are naive to think otherwise.

  83. Marty says:

    When Mayers was 12 years old, his father went to jail in connection with selling drugs; he died in 2012. When Mayers was 13, his brother was killed in Harlem. The death inspired Rocky to take rapping more seriously.

  84. istevefan says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    I did not realize the neocons no longer love Israel.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  85. Bill says:

    If what you say is true then the same applies to your country and every country in the world that have immigrants. You are wrong. Every country has the right to govern them

    self’s just as you do. We have laws just as you do. Our country isnt against immigrants, we just ask that they enter legally just as you ask in your country. If tens of thousands were coming across your border into Iran I guarantee you would be stopping them in a much harsher way than we are.

  86. Wilkey says:

    Didn’t see this post before it went below the fold, but I suspect that Ahmadinejad will suddenly get some Strange New Respect. Surprised that NBC hasn’t pulled this yet. “With your sleepy brown eyes, butter pecan thighs, and your hairy butt – yeah.”

    Ahmadinejad has been vocal in his hate for gays and Jews. Now he’s expressing views that are pretty damn sacred to most gays and Jews.

  87. Wilkey says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    I dont know why but Arabs arent causing any trouble in South America. The political establishment of Chile, Nicaragua,Argentina and Brazil often reads like a phonebook from Haifa and Beirut. But they are totally assimilated and consider themselves to culturally Iberian.

    Perhaps because they both come from equally dysfunctional cultures and nations? Both Arab nations and Latin American ones are OK with tribalism, corruption, and indolence. They’re a good fit for each other. In America and Northern Europe not so much.

    Well, we’re headed their direction, thanks to our new arrivals, but we aren’t quite ther yet.

  88. I am okay with A-jab referring to our president as Your Excellency. Other than that, a pitiful piece of Persian Prose.

  89. @istevefan

    Most American Jews are not neocon. Most opposed the Iraq 2003 for instance. Yes you had the elites such as Friedman and Kaplan ,Horowitz pushing but they were out of step with their brethren.

  90. @Wilkey

    Apart from Brazil, Venezuala and Bolivia most South Americans seem to be getting by nicely. Argentina has its usual economic fails but still a pleasant place to live. Your argument fails to address there is no tribalism or identitarian hysteria in Latin countries compared to U.S.

  91. @Steve Sailer

    Probably true. It also helps that Levantine ARabs are more likely to pass for Latins and vice versa. They have similar food which is olive oil ,pita and yoghurt based and aesthetics. What I find interesting that either

    a) Iberians are quite forgiving of the 700 year Arab rule over their countries
    b) They dont quite care
    c) Its not an important part of their consciousness
    d) They can distinguish between Maghrebinne Muslims(Arab or Amazigh) who were responsible for the subjugation of their motherland and the Levantine who had nothing to do with it.

    Regarding d) Mr. Osama Bin Laden had a bee in his bonnet regarding the loss of Andalus in 1492. Yemeni and Saudi clans led the siege in the 700s to Spain. Also Andalus is named not Spaniards but Vandals , the Germanic ruling dynasty at the time.

  92. @Anonymous

    Some Pushtuns at one point entertained the notion that they were the lost tribes of Israel. But this is restricted mostly to Afghan Pushtuns rather than Pakistani ones

    When I was in Dubai I came across many Pakistanis, particularly Pushtuns who quickly soured on Palestinians when they encountered their uncouth and racist behavior. And they started favoring Israel just to spite the Palis.

  93. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There used to be a website run by brown immigrants to Canada.

    It was full of “ I was an engineer lawyer whatever back in Pakistan and now I’m degraded by driving a cab in Canada” complaints.

  94. Alden says:

    Only reason they arrested him is that he’s American. If he were an African immigrant he’d have been let go with an apology for the inconvenience of being detained and questioned

  95. Alden says:
    @The Alarmist

    I saw that movie. Beautiful colors golden tan grass red coats white pants for the British black skin golden tan grass micro mini skirts for the Zulu’s.

  96. Alden says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Maybe because political correctitude doesn’t prevent arrest conviction and prison for behaving the way they do in Europe.

    Latin America, not having welfare for immigrants who arrived yesterday gets a different class of Muslim immigrants than Europe does.

  97. Alden says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Half in Iran, half in Beverly Hills Ca. They go back and forth all the time. Beverly Hills is full of Persian Jews visiting relatives right now. They always come in the summer to get away from the heat and invest their ill gotten gains in US real estate.

  98. Alden says:

    The Shah’s father installed himself in Persia back in 1925. The evil Shah the liberals hate inherited from his father. The evil Shah appointed read that and learn the word appointed Mossadegh, a member of parliament as Prime Minister. Have you learned that word appointed yet. Here a phrase you need to learn, At Will employment or appointment. Mossadegh was never elected Prime Minister. He was elected a member of parliament by one small constituency. The Shah appointed him At Will Prime Minister in accordance of the constitution at the time and ancient custom

    There was no such office as elected Prime Minister in Iran at the time, only At Will Appointed by the Shah could be fired by the Shah at any time for any reason Prime Minister.

    The Shah hired him and could fire him at any time.

    Mossadegh’s motive was that his Mother was a Princess of the dynasty the Shah’s father overthrew in 1925. About 1/4 of Iran was still occupied by the Russians at the time as was part of Austria and half of Europe as Russia’s plunder after WW2. The Russian occupiers of 1/4 of Iran sponsored a big communist party with the object of not withdrawing from the part of Iran Russia occupied.
    Mossadegh figured he could recover the throne for his dynasty He was the figurehead in a very short revolt. That revolution was quickly put down.

    America did not install Mohammed Reza Pahlavi as Shah in the early 195os after the communist led revolt fronted by Prince Mossadegh. Mohammed Reza Pahlavi was installed Shah in 1941 by his father when the father abdicated.
    I know, I know, all the internet sources and all the liberal propaganda you’ve ever read claims
    Mossadegh was a” democratically elected Prime Minister” overthrown by the evil 👿 Americans who installed the Shah. He wasn’t.

    Mossadegh was democratically elected all right. By one parliamentary constituency to be their Member if Parliament. He was not elected by anyone other than voters in his one constituency. He wasn’t elected to be Prime Minister because there was no such office as elected Prime Minister in Iran at the time.

    It was an Appointed At Will office. The Prime Minister served at the pleasure of the Shah. The Shahs appointed Prime Ministers and could fire them at any time. Just like non contract non tenured employees all over the world can be hired and fired at Will.
    I know, I know, you will find thousands of erroneous statements all over the web claiming that Mossadegh was an elected Prime Minister He wasn’t. He was just elected Member of Parliament. No such office as elected Prime Minister in Iran at the time.

    And the evil Shah Mohammed Reza was installed by his father in 1941, not by the Americans in the early fifties after Prince Mossadegh’s failed revolution.

    Why do Americans believe the most obvious egregious anti American propaganda? Especially when it’s a blatant lie that Mossadegh was an elected instead of an Appointed At Will Prime Minister???????

    Lots of wrong information on the internet. Look up At Will Appointed employee.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  99. Alden says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Do you read the American Jewish publications?

    If you did, you’d know the American Jews at least the leadership money bags and their press is totally committed to Israel right or wrong. I skim Jewish publications often. It’s not only Israel right or wrong, but the American Jewish media is coming around to let Jewish settlers completely take over the West Bank.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  100. Alden says:
    @Steve Sailer

    There are large Christian Arab communities in Latin America and Mexico dating back to the 19th century. That might be the difference in that the Christians help keep the Muslim new comers in line.

    There’s no welfare for immigrants in Latin America as there is in Europe. The Arabs are usually business people with money to invest and become respectable instead of welfare parasites.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  101. @Alden

    Which publications do you speak of? If they are Jewish as in catering to religious issues rather than merely cultural ones then of course they are targetted towards Orthodox and conservative Jews who are fond of Israel. Reform Jews are rather like Lutherans who have the hots for Muslims of all sorts.

  102. Romanian says: • Website

    You should check out the power of Lebanese, Syrian and other MENA immigrants in Latin America. Carlos Slim, though not Muslim, exemplifies it. They will do well with the Mestizos.

  103. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I understand your feelings of wanting to bomb, bomb Iran based on this dark, hairy dwarf demanding that the entire world be allowed to migrate to the USA.

    But, understand this is what our occupational government and media do and they do it all the time:

    They find some non Western, non White European American enemy who they sanction that it is OK for Red State White Americans to hate, to take out all their frustrations on open borders mass migration invasions, Black criminal anarchy, collapse of sanitation, education in places like LA, Baltimore – the lying press, controlled media gives the OK:

    “Look this ugly, Eye Ranian as** hol* hates America, he/they are trying to build atomic weapons to start another Holocaust, this guys Hitler. We can’t be like those gosh darn Liberals who won’t fight back, He’s another Hitler, we’re the leader of the free world and we ‘ve got to stop this Ahmadinejad like we stopped Hitler. The French are pussies, they never fight, it’s up to us”.

    If Ahmadinejad and Iran hadn’t also gone against Israel, did some Holocaust Revisionism, the lying press, fake news “American media” (yeah right) would have treated him great – the same as they treat that Somalian Islamist Congresswoman from Minnesota that spends her every waking minute insulting and threatening White Americans. It’s only when the cross the line and also insult Jews or go against Israel that there is a big problem.

    It’s amazing to me that this Neo Conservative war mongering propaganda still works so well with Red State White Americans, the American Religious Christian Right.

    Donald Trump got elected President because regular Americans wanted to end open borders migration invasions and bring home the troops from these never ending, counter productive Neo Conservative wars, adventures etc.

    Most of Red State White Americans have battle fatigue from these Neo Conservative wars, but they are still very receptive for the Lying Media to wave the American Flag, support the troops, Bomb Iran and all it takes is some war mongering propaganda music by the likes of Ted Nugent or Tobby Keith, Hank Williams Jr.

    The rest of us need to simply tune this SH$*# out and live healthy lives and try to separate from all of this.

  104. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    “Arabs will be bigger than Jews as a force through sheer numbers and belligerence. They also will Name The Jew loudly and often, making dynamic silence impossible. ”

    I replied:

    In theory, this should or could happen. In 21st century reality it doesn’t happen. Arab and other Muslim migrant immigrants just join the American/Western Lib Left and do block voting to GET things like a Pakistani Muslim mayor of London.

    Muslims and Jews vote the same way in the USA > 85% Lib Left Democrat – sure some Somalian Muslim Lib Leftist Congresswoman will insult, threaten Jews the same as she insults, threatens White Americans every single day. But in the end, Arabs/Muslims will be on the same side as anti White Jews in the USA.

  105. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I live in Chicago the City. Sorry to bust another bubble, but we have tribalism, corruption and indolence here in Chicago.

    Blacks, homosexuals/Lesbians and all kinds of migrants do block voting for their group. Chicago now has a Black Lesbian mayor, to replace the IDF veteran, son of Irgun terrorist Mayor Rahm Emannuel. Illinois has a Jewish governor. The Public Teachers union basically runs the city and state – Chicago Public Schools cost ~ $8 billion a year, average teacher salary is $70,000 a year – most all that $ money is divided up along tribal lines, mostly all Black, but also LGBT. Hispanics sort of got in to an alternative tribal school system of charter schools, but the Chicago Public Teachers union grabbed that one also.

    OK, say yeah – American big cities are reverting to late 1980s and everything most definitely is tribal, corrupt, indolent – huge armies of panhandlers, heroin addicts, people that eat, sleep and poop in the street. The predicted plagues of TB and bubonic plague may soon hit LA.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  106. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amy Wax Rocks

    Has anyone tried to get President Trump’s ear to bail out and save Tommy Robinson who’s thought crime was to oppose mass Muslim sexual grooming, child rape gangs in England?

  107. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    The Arab Christians in Latin America you referenced are predominately Lebanese Maronite Christian Arabs – this international tribe behaves in identical ways as international Jewish communities. They arrive as merchants/kaufman often as very low end family pawn shop owners, family convenience store owners that work in the ‘hood. The Kaufman Jewish merchants were a staple in Weimar Germany and in 1920s-1940s New York City, North Eastern Cities.

    The Chaldean Arab merchants running convenience stores in food deserts in Detroit operate the same way – and these Arab/Jewish and also Korean merchants operating in ‘hoods are always hated by the unemployed locals.

    But once these Lebanese Arab merchants really “Make it” in Latin American countries, they become even more like Jews, they become “International” and have homes and businesses in many many places.

    Look at Carlos Slim a Lebanese Arab who somehow got the phone monopoly in Mexico, he was once the wealthiest man in the world and had luxury home in New York City and became the largest stock holder of the New York Times. Carlos Slim’s supposed Christian religion has done nothing, absolutely NOTHING to change the New York Times hyper Lib Leftist, anti White, cultural marxist slant – the NYT might as well be owned and completely operated by the Salsburg Family, Harvey Weinstein, CNN’s Jeff Zucker along with the ADL, SPLC and AIPAC

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  108. @anonymous

    son of Irgun terrorist Mayor Rahm Emannuel

    Freedom fighter, not terrorists. The real terrorists were the British who due to their bungling and backstabbing with the Transjordan ended up pleasing no one and the mess they left the world today.

    • Disagree: Clyde
    • Troll: HammerJack
  109. @anonymous

    The Chaldean Arab merchants running convenience stores in food deserts in Detroit operate the same way – and these Arab/Jewish and also Korean merchants operating in ‘hoods are always hated by the unemployed locals.

    Did anyone stop these unemployed locals who are usually non white to avail themselves of the considerable small business loans via the federal government to start their own convenience stores. But that would require them to wake up at 4am and not lounge about in the backyards engaging in idle chit chat
    Anyhow I find this concern trolling on behalf on blacks to be quite adorable.

  110. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Have you learned that word appointed yet. Here a phrase you need to learn, At Will employment or appointment. Mossadegh was never elected Prime Minister. He was elected a member of parliament by one small constituency. The Shah appointed him At Will Prime Minister in accordance of the constitution at the time and ancient custom

    This is like the logic of an Iranian film. To get from Point A to Point B, go through all the other letters first.

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