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Not actually by Dr. Seuss, but cancel it anyway just to be sure.

From the New York Times opinion page:

Six Seuss Books Bore a Bias

Racism must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture.

By Charles M. Blow
Opinion Columnist, March 3, 2021, 7:38 p.m. ET

As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior. And I was not alone. The Black society into which I was born was riddled with these beliefs.

It wasn’t something that most if any would articulate in that way, let alone knowingly propagate. Rather, it was in the air, in the culture. We had been trained in it, bathed in it, acculturated to hate ourselves.

It happened for children in the most inconspicuous of ways: It was relayed through toys and dolls, cartoons and children’s shows, fairy tales and children’s books.

At every turn, at every moment, I was being baptized in the narrative that everything white was right, good, noble and beautiful, and everything Black was the opposite.

But now we know that Black is better than white. Just look at which one gets capitalized!

The first book I ever bought was a children’s book about Job from the Bible. Job was the whitest of white men in the book

“And look how easy he had it.” — iSteve commenter bgates

and so was the white savior with white beard lounging on a cloud. Indeed, every image I saw of Christianity featured white people. My great-uncle had a picture of a stringy-haired, blue-eyed white Jesus hanging over his bed.

Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture; Speedy Gonzales, whose friends helped popularize the corrosive stereotype of the drunk and lethargic Mexicans; and Mammy Two Shoes, a heavyset Black maid who spoke in a heavy accent.

Reruns were a fixture in the pre-cable days, so I watched children’s shows like Tarzan, about a half-naked white man in the middle of an African jungle who conquers and tames it and outwits the Black people there, who are all portrayed as primitive, if not savage. I watched the old “Our Gang” (“Little Rascals”) shorts in which the Buckwheat character summoned all the stereotypes of the pickaninny.

And of course, I watched westerns that regularly depicted Native Americans as aggressive, bloodthirsty savages against whom valiant white men were forced to fight.

… About 30 years ago, in my own version of the experiment, I grabbed an old yearbook of from a school I attended whose student body was roughly evenly split between white and Black students. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white.

It underscored for me that the things that we present children with, believing them innocent, can be highly corrosive and racially vicious.

So, this week when the company that controls the Dr. Seuss books announced that they would no longer publish six of the books because of racist and insensitive imagery, saying “these books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” I cheered as some bemoaned another victim of so-called “cancel culture.” …

Clearly, the biggest problem faced by African-Americans in 2021 is insufficient self-esteem.

 
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  1. Clearly, the way to raise the insufficient self-esteem of African-Americans is to demonize European-Americans.

    Teach White children that they are evil and that their ancestors were responsible for all the world’s ills. Propagandize their parents into thinking this. Move Africans to the neighborhoods of the White children’s grandparents.

    It would be even better to use the African methods and just kill the White people and steal their land. So far, all we can do is fill media with images of White women sexually taken by dark people…

    … And make everyone wear masks so they feel like they can’t talk or complain about anything or even show their faces to anyone.

    • Replies: @goldgettin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Now,they're openly bragging about the masks. We're the maskers.
    Aren't you a masker? Another divide and conquer technique that also allows them to
    identify the enemy.Look how proud of their face diapers they've become.
    Criminals always hide their identities.They are guilty and know it.
    This is going to get ugly. Law or law of the jungle?

    Replies: @Forbes

    , @Polistra
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Blow's endless whining center upon the fact that he's a minority. Yet--oddly enough--he'd never consider moving to one of the many nations where he'd be in the majority.

    Isn't that strange? And it's not just him. Minuscule numbers of Black Americans ever move back to their native continent. Millions of Black Africans continue to flood over here to America, where they can enjoy life as a (pampered) minority. It's just so odd.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  2. charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling. Pepe le Pew = rape coulture. So sad. The nyt needs an onstaff psychiatrist. Now off to read the comments.

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @Buffalo Joe

    Pepe Le Pew is rape culture but not 2 Live Crew!

  3. 17 Instances Of Racism On ONE Page From A Dr. Seuss Book

    … and don’t forget to go to the main Bee page to find out there’s 12 More Children’s Books That Should Be Canceled due to all sorts of cultural appropriations, supremacist thinking, oppression, and of course a lot of whiteness as well.

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    @hooodathunkit

    I do not like your mental haze,
    I do not like your leftist ways.
    I do not like your son on blow,
    I do not like you, Uncle Joe.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @James J O'Meara
    @hooodathunkit

    Look, we just need to stop cancelling this or that book, one at a time, and realize that books AS SUCH are oppressive, an invention of huwhite men which, even if not intended to oppress Black bodies (although it probably was) never the less does oppress Black bodies, as its very existence exposes the supposed "inadequacy" of rich, fertile and loamy Black oral culture.

    Why do you think they call it a "press"?

  4. Anonymous[461] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    This is hilarious…

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Anonymous

    She reminds me of me and most of my neighbors, at this point. What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?

    Replies: @anonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Anonymous

    "Ripped butts"? Took me a while to figure that one out. I had rather different image in mind, more like that guy who got fired after that Zoom meeting.

    I guess the Brits would say "ripped fags."

  5. As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior

    No, Chuck, that’s just something you’ve picked up on about yourself.

    • LOL: SimpleSong
  6. I learned to read from Dr. Seuss. My mom got the books every week at the library and the week I learned to read it was Green Eggs and Ham and Go Dog Go.

    Did you know that Go Dog Go was actually not written by Dr Seuss but by one of his hangers on?

    The font for Eastman’s name is fine print for a five year old!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Morton's toes

    "Go Dog Go" is a minimalist classic. I don't know why it's so great, but it is.

    Replies: @Danindc

    , @Anon7
    @Morton's toes

    Here's how little children learn to read now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQM-6NzyIU

    "B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous coward, @TWS

    , @CCZ
    @Morton's toes

    Today, toddlers and children can learn to read from more progressive literature, like "The GayBCs" that teaches the alphabet through the lens of modern gender theory, such as:

    B is for Bi
    C is for Coming Out
    D is for Drag
    G is for Gay “It’s a word that implies you’re a girl who likes girls, or a guy who likes guys.”
    I is for Intersex “Some are born with the parts of both a boy and a girl; bodies are works of art!”
    L is for Lesbian
    P is for Pan “You connect with a vibe. No matter the gender, it’s about what’s inside.”
    Q is for Queer
    T is for Trans "It’s a brave step to take, to live as the gender you know is innate.”

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1366108099711553538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1366108099711553538%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotthebee.com%2Farticle%2Fif-you-feel-like-vomiting-today-watch-this-little-kid-reading-lgbt-terms-like-intersex-from-a-picture-book

    , @JMcG
    @Morton's toes

    “Go, Dog. Go” and “Are You My Mother?” Were the top requested books by my kids when they were little, fifteen years ago or so. Dr. Seuss was pretty much a non-starter. I don’t know why, we tried, but Dr. Seuss was not a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  7. Again, if Indo-Europeans are the scourge of innocent blacks, a country (or almost an entire continent) of Africans surely will be the most stable, innovative, prosperous place possible…?

    • LOL: Joseph Doaks
  8. anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:

    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”

    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior. Black people on the other hand are like any other people, judge them as you find them. “Blackness” is meaningless. Dr. Seuss helped me to learn to read when I was six-years-old. I barely remember the illustrations. If you are still traumatized by childhood memories of Pepe le Pew and Tarzan, medication or an Analyst’s couch might help.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @anonymous



    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”
     
    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior.
     
    I actually have a bit of sympathy here. Historically people overwhelmingly grew up among their own people, with their own culture, norms, values, stories, heroes, etc. That's the natural order, and how humans are supposed--evolved--to live.

    American blacks grow up with their black stuff, but surrounded by the dominant/normative white culture, which once you are at least semi-sentient you realize just kicks the crap out of what your people have done. And yeah, whites are better looking to boot. (Obviously, whites are normative for me so i'm biased, but the rest of the world sees it that way too.)

    Now in fairness, whites--specifically Western Civilization--has kicked the crap out of the entire rest of the world for about 500 years. But at least people from the other major settled civilizations--China, India, Persia, etc.--have a rich culture of their own and many have the mental hardware to engage with the ideas, knowledge and technology that the West built. Blacks are bereft of much of anything to point to. Africa really was "the Dark Continent" and their performance in the US isn't all that impressive either.

    Now the flip side of this devil's bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i've noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.


    But it is psychologically demeaning--having to live constantly reminded that the white majority basically has created all the cool stuff and you're just an unneeded tag-along. People really should be living amongst their own kind, their own culture. The natural order is psychologically much more healthy.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Alden
    @anonymous

    Charles Blow’s gay, isn’t he? He should love muscle man Tarzan in nothing but his leopard skin little skirt. Blow probably fantasied about Tarzan rescuing him and taking Blow home to his treehouse. Tarzan was my favorite comic book. Every week, I’d buy a Tarzan comic book and a book of paper dolls. I liked the stories, the other characters and the exotic locale.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

  9. Charles Blow should be returned to the dark continent where he can be free of whites, where he can receive the famed African hospitality offered to homosexuals: capture, torture, buggery, death, and consumption (not necessarily in that order.)

    We live in an age where the degenerate transsexual would not dare read Dr. Seuss aloud to the group of 4 years old he has been granted access to in the classroom.

    I am looking forward to the next great correction nature makes once the power goes out.

    • Agree: Polistra
  10. Steve what are your thoughts on this song? It pretty much quotes you “Facts don’t care about your feelings.” Also destroys all of the narrative.

  11. charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling.

    Charles M Blow = Mr Bowel Clash. Mr Slow-Bleach.

    Charles McRay Blow = Lachrymal sob crew.

    • LOL: Trelane
    • Troll: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar



    https://www.oxforddnb.com/doc/searchableMedia/odnb-9780198614128-e-1003132-graphic-1-full.jpg
    Reg Cæsar at work

     

    Sorry to dox you bro.

    Replies: @Polistra, @PiltdownMan, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, we get it. You’re good at anagrams. Bravo for you. Now please move on.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sure doesn't have the panache of Mr. Mojo Risin'.

  12. I attended whose student body was roughly evenly split between white and Black students. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white.

    This should have been a clue. We (the set of all hateful white people) also find Blacks unappealing to look at, to be around, to listen to, etc. etc.

    Let’s review:

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @James Speaks

    > Let’s review

    Thanks, swipe left or swipe right? Xis picture illustrates the encyclopedia entry for “Revealed Preferences.”

    This portrait also accompanies “Stereotype Threat.” At first glance, xhe seems to brim with resentment and hostility, a self-centered scold who delights in smearing reputations and inflicting pain.

    But in actuality

  13. “Racism must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture.”

    Children have a culture? This is a religious movement involved in exorcisms? Isn’t that illegal like gay conversion therapy or actual exorcism?

    “It happened for children in the most inconspicuous of ways: It was relayed through toys and dolls, cartoons and children’s shows, fairy tales and children’s books.”

    Yes it was in the most inconspicuous of ways. I, Sir Charles Blow, had to use a big word here to describe a complete lie.

    “… About 30 years ago, in my own version of the experiment, I grabbed an old yearbook of from a school I attended whose student body was roughly evenly split between white and Black students. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white.”

    What is the current scientific consensus on this?

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Flubber82

    Of course children have a culture. Not everything Charles Blow says is wrong, it's just stupid. The thing is, adults can't do anything about it. It exists wherever children are, without interfering adults.

  14. “Reruns were a fixture in the pre-cable days, so I watched children’s shows like Tarzan, about a half-naked white man in the middle of an African jungle who conquers and tames it and outwits the Black people there, who are all portrayed as primitive, if not savage. I watched the old “Our Gang” (“Little Rascals”) shorts in which the Buckwheat character summoned all the stereotypes of the pickaninny.”

    That’s reality

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Flubber82

    At least he didn’t diss Stymie.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Flubber82

    Speaking of Buckwheat...

    https://youtu.be/T0epZ9tjYdA

  15. Job was the whitest of white men in the book

    and look how easy he had it.

  16. If you really want to make an author apoplectic, tell him that copyright protection lasts ~125 years too long.

  17. Horton hears a cracker?

    • LOL: James Speaks
  18. @Morton's toes
    I learned to read from Dr. Seuss. My mom got the books every week at the library and the week I learned to read it was Green Eggs and Ham and Go Dog Go.

    Did you know that Go Dog Go was actually not written by Dr Seuss but by one of his hangers on?

    https://www.amazon.com/-/es/P-D-Eastman/dp/0553521098/

    The font for Eastman's name is fine print for a five year old!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon7, @CCZ, @JMcG

    “Go Dog Go” is a minimalist classic. I don’t know why it’s so great, but it is.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Steve Sailer

    It’s great because you climb the ladder to...a dog party!

  19. Dr. Seuss was a preachy liberal who wrote annoying material.

    He preached about the evils of Reagan’s military buildup too. I mean, only a Neanderthal would want to oppose communism!

    I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @RichardTaylor

    Dr Seuss wrote the Lorax. It’s against not just logging forest farming etc but even clearing brush because back a million years ago when there were no humans the brush just piled up and became humus then dirt. That is, if lightening or getting damp heating up and setting itself on fire didn’t happen first.

    Results of liberals and the minions of Satan federal judges forbidding brush harvesting clearing and pruning . Electricity outages and deadly forest fires.

    Being a cynic who always follows the money; I believe the Lorax was funded by the plastics industry. So we can all live in plastic module homes and use plastic furniture.

    Back when Sears had some nice things, it had Cat in the Hat wall paper for little boys rooms. I bought it. A big 7 by 3 figure of the cat, green white and paprika red striped wallpaper and bedspreads.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @RichardTaylor

    "I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours."

    How appropriate to find this on a thread about Dr. Seuss, since it reflects a child's understanding of WWII, as filtered through decades of propaganda pushed by Seuss and his other Tribesmen.

    You'll know you've become a grownup, when you understand that the US was tricked into WWII by Brits and Jewish Communists, and we "saved our asses" by saving Stalin's ass.

    And oh, the places you'll go then!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  20. @Steve Sailer
    @Morton's toes

    "Go Dog Go" is a minimalist classic. I don't know why it's so great, but it is.

    Replies: @Danindc

    It’s great because you climb the ladder to…a dog party!

  21. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling.
     
    Charles M Blow = Mr Bowel Clash. Mr Slow-Bleach.

    Charles McRay Blow = Lachrymal sob crew.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Paperback Writer


    Reg Cæsar at work

    Sorry to dox you bro.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Anonymous

    Actually he looks like he might be fun to speak with.

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    If that's Reg Cæsar's scriptorium, which iSteve regular's scriptorium is this?

    https://i.imgur.com/kja59Ej.jpg?1


    And whose is this one?

    https://i.imgur.com/7CMGlUR.jpg?1

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    To paraphrase Cardinal Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict, if three days go by when I'm not labeled a troll by Mr Taylor, I have to examine my conscience.

  22. @Anonymous
    OT:

    This is hilarious...

    https://twitter.com/TurtleboyTweets/status/1366284583935836160?s=20

    Replies: @Michelle, @James J O'Meara

    She reminds me of me and most of my neighbors, at this point. What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Michelle


    What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?
     
    What do you mean?
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Michelle

    "She reminds me"

    of my friend's wife. She's a teacher in the local school district -- junior high in a school that has a large percentage of black kids. I suggested to my friend that his wife and her fellow white teachers are resistant to return to in-class learning because the black kids are mostly troublesome and sometimes dangerous. Public schools with a lot of black kids are dysfunctional. Always have been; always will be.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Michelle

  23. Any racism in Dr Seuss books is like the double entendres in Loony Tune cartoons. Totally over the heads of children, who need not be traumatized by it unless the adults reading it are tripping on it. Quit laying your trips on kids, people, and everything will be alright!

  24. Ironically, Charles Blow preaches his anti-White bigotry from one of the most privileged and powerful positions in this country: the Op-Ed section of the Sulzberger/Slim empire.

    All of his incessant whining is very tiresome. I’m sure if he was censored like Dr. Suess he would feel differently about censorship.

    • Replies: @anon
    @petit bourgeois

    Charles Blow ... All of his incessant whining is very tiresome.

    https://media1.tenor.com/images/d4d8ff888610ff8768a95569284ccb98/tenor.gif

  25. @Morton's toes
    I learned to read from Dr. Seuss. My mom got the books every week at the library and the week I learned to read it was Green Eggs and Ham and Go Dog Go.

    Did you know that Go Dog Go was actually not written by Dr Seuss but by one of his hangers on?

    https://www.amazon.com/-/es/P-D-Eastman/dp/0553521098/

    The font for Eastman's name is fine print for a five year old!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon7, @CCZ, @JMcG

    Here’s how little children learn to read now:

    “B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anon7


    The GayBCs

    “B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud.”
     
    D is for disease
    Which is what you can get
    When you hook up in a bathhouse
    With some dude named Chet.

    Replies: @Anon7

    , @anonymous coward
    @Anon7


    'A' is for 'ally'
     
    Totally dropped the ball on that one.
    , @TWS
    @Anon7

    I see millstones and deep sea in their future.

  26. Isn’t the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-“Jap” propaganda from WWII?

    How do blacks figure into this?

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, they’ll be worth a lot of money.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Bill P

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, t̶h̶e̶y̶’l̶l̶ b̶e̶ w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ a̶ l̶o̶t̶ o̶f̶ m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ they'll be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp. FIFY

    Replies: @CCZ, @ic1000, @Dissident

    , @JMcG
    @Bill P

    I’m cornering the market on Blazing Saddles DVDs and David Allen Coe CDs. Books take up a lot of space.

    , @Tex
    @Bill P


    Isn’t the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-“Jap” propaganda from WWII?
     
    Given that Seuss used Japanese caricatures to advocate ethnically-based incarceration for an indefinite period, and I mean incarnation strictly because of an ethnicity, you might think so.

    However, the real fun in examining Seuss's work is the compare/contrast of the cartoons he did in the same period (like weeks or months apart from the stuff advocating Japanese internment) excoriating Governor Talmadge of Georgia for being a racist, which Suess claimed somehow harmed the war effort.
    , @Lyra
    @Bill P

    “Isn't the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-“Jap” propaganda from WWII?

    You would be correct, but never underestimate the power of narcissism. When your worldview is, “It's all about me”, Japanese-American being accused of treason is now magically Yet Another Reason Professional Black Dude Needs Yet More Acclaim And Adoration

  27. @petit bourgeois
    Ironically, Charles Blow preaches his anti-White bigotry from one of the most privileged and powerful positions in this country: the Op-Ed section of the Sulzberger/Slim empire.

    All of his incessant whining is very tiresome. I'm sure if he was censored like Dr. Suess he would feel differently about censorship.

    Replies: @anon

    Charles Blow … All of his incessant whining is very tiresome.

  28. CCZ says:
    @Morton's toes
    I learned to read from Dr. Seuss. My mom got the books every week at the library and the week I learned to read it was Green Eggs and Ham and Go Dog Go.

    Did you know that Go Dog Go was actually not written by Dr Seuss but by one of his hangers on?

    https://www.amazon.com/-/es/P-D-Eastman/dp/0553521098/

    The font for Eastman's name is fine print for a five year old!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon7, @CCZ, @JMcG

    Today, toddlers and children can learn to read from more progressive literature, like “The GayBCs” that teaches the alphabet through the lens of modern gender theory, such as:

    B is for Bi
    C is for Coming Out
    D is for Drag
    G is for Gay “It’s a word that implies you’re a girl who likes girls, or a guy who likes guys.”
    I is for Intersex “Some are born with the parts of both a boy and a girl; bodies are works of art!”
    L is for Lesbian
    P is for Pan “You connect with a vibe. No matter the gender, it’s about what’s inside.”
    Q is for Queer
    T is for Trans “It’s a brave step to take, to live as the gender you know is innate.”

  29. @Buzz Mohawk
    Clearly, the way to raise the insufficient self-esteem of African-Americans is to demonize European-Americans.

    Teach White children that they are evil and that their ancestors were responsible for all the world's ills. Propagandize their parents into thinking this. Move Africans to the neighborhoods of the White children's grandparents.

    It would be even better to use the African methods and just kill the White people and steal their land. So far, all we can do is fill media with images of White women sexually taken by dark people...

    ... And make everyone wear masks so they feel like they can't talk or complain about anything or even show their faces to anyone.

    Replies: @goldgettin, @Polistra

    Now,they’re openly bragging about the masks. We’re the maskers.
    Aren’t you a masker? Another divide and conquer technique that also allows them to
    identify the enemy.Look how proud of their face diapers they’ve become.
    Criminals always hide their identities.They are guilty and know it.
    This is going to get ugly. Law or law of the jungle?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @goldgettin

    It's been the law of the jungle for quite some time, i.e. the rule of man instead of the rule of law. The evidence is all around you.

  30. @Buzz Mohawk
    Clearly, the way to raise the insufficient self-esteem of African-Americans is to demonize European-Americans.

    Teach White children that they are evil and that their ancestors were responsible for all the world's ills. Propagandize their parents into thinking this. Move Africans to the neighborhoods of the White children's grandparents.

    It would be even better to use the African methods and just kill the White people and steal their land. So far, all we can do is fill media with images of White women sexually taken by dark people...

    ... And make everyone wear masks so they feel like they can't talk or complain about anything or even show their faces to anyone.

    Replies: @goldgettin, @Polistra

    Blow’s endless whining center upon the fact that he’s a minority. Yet–oddly enough–he’d never consider moving to one of the many nations where he’d be in the majority.

    Isn’t that strange? And it’s not just him. Minuscule numbers of Black Americans ever move back to their native continent. Millions of Black Africans continue to flood over here to America, where they can enjoy life as a (pampered) minority. It’s just so odd.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Polistra

    I was about to write that myself, Polistra. There are loads of inexpensive places one can move to where not a white person can be seen. Even if you can't see 'em, anyway, that is - Peak Stupidity notes that Stevie Wonder says that he will move to the Mudderland, Ghana, in particular, to "protect his grandchildren from racism". As commenter PeterIke says, "I bet he's not Ghana like it there."

    I wouldn't put any money on his actually moving there either, but more power to the whole Wonder family. Mr. Blow, come join 'em. The weather is there, wish you were beautiful.*

    BTW, I've met not only more Ghanans in the last year than in the rest of my life (ZERO), but I met a girl from Paraguay who works at the auto-parts store. Para-freakin'-guay! She's doing the looking up of make, model, year, engine-type on the computer that Americanos just won't do.


    .

    * Sorry, only Parrot-heads are gonna get that one.

  31. Insane but not surprising.

    Thank you for alerting me to this though, I am going to buy a few copies of those books while they’re still available. They will be valuable collector’s items in the future. Thank you, SJWs! Ka-ching!

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @DextersLabRat

    I hear they are already selling for astronomical prices on EBay.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Kolya Krassotkin

  32. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar



    https://www.oxforddnb.com/doc/searchableMedia/odnb-9780198614128-e-1003132-graphic-1-full.jpg
    Reg Cæsar at work

     

    Sorry to dox you bro.

    Replies: @Polistra, @PiltdownMan, @Reg Cæsar

    Actually he looks like he might be fun to speak with.

  33. @anonymous
    "As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior."

    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior. Black people on the other hand are like any other people, judge them as you find them. "Blackness" is meaningless. Dr. Seuss helped me to learn to read when I was six-years-old. I barely remember the illustrations. If you are still traumatized by childhood memories of Pepe le Pew and Tarzan, medication or an Analyst's couch might help.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”

    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior.

    I actually have a bit of sympathy here. Historically people overwhelmingly grew up among their own people, with their own culture, norms, values, stories, heroes, etc. That’s the natural order, and how humans are supposed–evolved–to live.

    American blacks grow up with their black stuff, but surrounded by the dominant/normative white culture, which once you are at least semi-sentient you realize just kicks the crap out of what your people have done. And yeah, whites are better looking to boot. (Obviously, whites are normative for me so i’m biased, but the rest of the world sees it that way too.)

    Now in fairness, whites–specifically Western Civilization–has kicked the crap out of the entire rest of the world for about 500 years. But at least people from the other major settled civilizations–China, India, Persia, etc.–have a rich culture of their own and many have the mental hardware to engage with the ideas, knowledge and technology that the West built. Blacks are bereft of much of anything to point to. Africa really was “the Dark Continent” and their performance in the US isn’t all that impressive either.

    Now the flip side of this devil’s bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i’ve noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.

    But it is psychologically demeaning–having to live constantly reminded that the white majority basically has created all the cool stuff and you’re just an unneeded tag-along. People really should be living amongst their own kind, their own culture. The natural order is psychologically much more healthy.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Now the flip side of this devil’s bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i’ve noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.
     
    American “slaves” themselves lived at levels of prosperity they would have been unable to produce on their own.
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherDad

    This is a complex issue & I don't have much info on it. But, let's speculate...

    Blacks in Africa have, I guess, their own school system with books for children representing their own race. In Brazil and elsewhere in Latin America- not so, but they look up to whites as being someone desirable, and while they have their own popular culture (Brazil, Colombia,..)- they just don't care for such intricacies. Blacks in those countries perfectly know they did not build any "high civilization", but- they simply lack the inferiority complex. Perhaps racial stratification in "Latin" countries helps (blacks, mulattoes, other mixes, ...), so that it's not "us" vs "them" mentality.

    Unlike the US, local whites, although they run the world & are racially conscious, don't engage in the guilt-tripping so characteristic of the Anglophone world. Slavery? So what, it happened. You look white, but ca. 10-15% of your ancestry is black? So what, you're white.

    In the US, blacks have their own distinctive culture (mostly in music, food, probably some other areas,..), which is opposed to the "white culture", i.e. global universal culture. Also, blacks absolutely dominate two national sports, NFL and NBA, while in Brazil, they are, give or take, represented proportionally in association football. There is no cultural climate in Brazil or Colombia or other countries that would treat blacks as something special, or potentially more masculine and less feminine than whites or tanned whites.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/22/408813624/expats-find-brazils-reputation-for-race-blindness-is-undone-by-reality


    Ky Adderley, an American from Philadelphia who runs an education consultancy in Rio de Janeiro, says he too was shocked when he moved to Brazil.

    "I feel like the racism here is much deeper than I've ever felt anywhere," he says.

    He says he knew how to navigate being a black man in the U.S — "regardless of people's skin tone, there was a sense in the black community that if you have a little bit in you, then you were black, and so then we were able to build community really quickly" — but in Brazil he found it really hard to find that same support network. So he created his own with other expatriate black men.

    "We have a group called Bros in Brazil," he says. "And it is a group of maybe 15 guys now that come from Europe, Africa, the United States, and are living and working in Brazil as professionals."

    They talk about race a lot. Brazil, Adderley says, is deeply segregated along racial lines, especially in Rio. When he walks his dog, if he isn't wearing a suit, he often gets asked if he's a professional dog-walker.

    He says simply being an educated black man in Brazil feels like a subversive act.

    "As a black person, what is your place in Rio de Janeiro? All the blacks that I see are in service jobs — and the darker you are, the less you're seen," he says. "So the role that you may have may be back in the kitchen and not out waiting a table."

    Most people in Brazil tell him there isn't a racism problem, and he says that's the root of the issue: People aren't addressing it.

    The worry for him is how the race question in Brazil will affect his daughter. A woman who was photographing his then-newborn told him that he needed to modify her features.

    "Well you can fix her nose, you know — you just pinch it. If you just pinch her nose every day and just keep pinching it, she won't have that wide nose," he recounts her telling him.

    The woman from London says the racism in Brazil has started to affect her kids, too.

    "My 3-year-old has started to come home from school, and he's started to rub my arms and my skin," she says. "He'd say, 'Mummy, I'm trying to get the brown off.' "
     
    In short: nobody cares about blacks' sensitivity about this or that- including blacks.
  34. @DextersLabRat
    Insane but not surprising.

    Thank you for alerting me to this though, I am going to buy a few copies of those books while they're still available. They will be valuable collector's items in the future. Thank you, SJWs! Ka-ching!

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I hear they are already selling for astronomical prices on EBay.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JimDandy

    Commenter Adam Smith (the other Adam Smith, not the Scottish Economist) wonders whether this was done on purpose by the publisher to bring prices way up, possibly after a big printing order was placed. If true it's devious, but brilliant! One can make money off of wokeness just like anything else.

    You'd think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Adam Smith

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @JimDandy

    I see a huge market for bootlegged copies of Seuss's work.

    (The chinese and Russians are observing us and think we're insane; and they're right.)

    Replies: @JimDandy

  35. anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @anonymous



    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”
     
    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior.
     
    I actually have a bit of sympathy here. Historically people overwhelmingly grew up among their own people, with their own culture, norms, values, stories, heroes, etc. That's the natural order, and how humans are supposed--evolved--to live.

    American blacks grow up with their black stuff, but surrounded by the dominant/normative white culture, which once you are at least semi-sentient you realize just kicks the crap out of what your people have done. And yeah, whites are better looking to boot. (Obviously, whites are normative for me so i'm biased, but the rest of the world sees it that way too.)

    Now in fairness, whites--specifically Western Civilization--has kicked the crap out of the entire rest of the world for about 500 years. But at least people from the other major settled civilizations--China, India, Persia, etc.--have a rich culture of their own and many have the mental hardware to engage with the ideas, knowledge and technology that the West built. Blacks are bereft of much of anything to point to. Africa really was "the Dark Continent" and their performance in the US isn't all that impressive either.

    Now the flip side of this devil's bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i've noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.


    But it is psychologically demeaning--having to live constantly reminded that the white majority basically has created all the cool stuff and you're just an unneeded tag-along. People really should be living amongst their own kind, their own culture. The natural order is psychologically much more healthy.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian

    Now the flip side of this devil’s bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i’ve noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.

    American “slaves” themselves lived at levels of prosperity they would have been unable to produce on their own.

  36. anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michelle
    @Anonymous

    She reminds me of me and most of my neighbors, at this point. What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?

    Replies: @anonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?

    What do you mean?

  37. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar



    https://www.oxforddnb.com/doc/searchableMedia/odnb-9780198614128-e-1003132-graphic-1-full.jpg
    Reg Cæsar at work

     

    Sorry to dox you bro.

    Replies: @Polistra, @PiltdownMan, @Reg Cæsar

    If that’s Reg Cæsar’s scriptorium, which iSteve regular’s scriptorium is this?

    And whose is this one?

  38. Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture; Speedy Gonzales, whose friends helped popularize the corrosive stereotype of the drunk and lethargic Mexicans; and Mammy Two Shoes, a heavyset Black maid who spoke in a heavy accent.

    Whereas Elmer Fudd and Foghorn Leghorn showed white guys in a favorable light.

    And Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture. Why? Because he was always on the make? Always trying to seduce the ladies? What other group of people do we so often find always sweet-talking the ladies? Could it be men who look like Charles Blow? Even though Charles Blow doesn’t himself blow that way?

    • Replies: @mc23
    @Mr. Anon

    I thought Pepe Le Pew was a fast talking French Skunk who always struck out. Apparently I am pretty shallow.

  39. @Bill P
    Isn't the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-"Jap" propaganda from WWII?

    How do blacks figure into this?

    I'm starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, they'll be worth a lot of money.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @JMcG, @Tex, @Lyra

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, t̶h̶e̶y̶’l̶l̶ b̶e̶ w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ a̶ l̶o̶t̶ o̶f̶ m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ they’ll be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp. FIFY

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @CCZ
    @kaganovitch

    Mark Twain Branch of the Detroit Public Library has some books for the taking!!

    https://i.redd.it/xy8yo4de4q521.jpg

    https://wrotetrips.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/vintagemark10.jpg

    http://www.detroiturbex.com/content/parksandrec/twain/index.html

    Replies: @additionalMike, @kaganovitch

    , @ic1000
    @kaganovitch

    Cool strikethrus, Mr. K!

    , @Dissident
    @kaganovitch


    [unwoke books] will be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp
     
    You mean if for some reason one's Internet/phone, etc. logs, etc. would prove insufficient for linking one to crimethought?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  40. @Anon7
    @Morton's toes

    Here's how little children learn to read now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQM-6NzyIU

    "B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous coward, @TWS

    The GayBCs

    “B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud.”

    D is for disease
    Which is what you can get
    When you hook up in a bathhouse
    With some dude named Chet.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Mr. Anon

    You have made me laugh, Mr. Anon. Well done!

  41. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white.

    The Ouija Board Beauty Test Oracle has spoken.

    Sorry M. Blow. It seems you are trying to go up against the very structure of the universe itself.

    • LOL: Forbes
  42. I’m not religious, but this guy gets it with regard to conservatives always defending the very people and institutions who hate them. Just like you guys are defending the liberal Dr. Seuss who openly pushed leftist talking points in his cartoons aimed at helpless children.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/once-more-into-the-breach/id1530654244?i=1000511486859

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @RichardTaylor

    It's almost as if healthy people like Dr. Seuss even if they disagree with his 1983 Cold War political views.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @RichardTaylor

    That's Aaron Renn's podcast, isn't it? He's got an unfortunate voice, but if you can get past that, his content and insights are very good.

  43. Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;

    LOL.

    Well, I guess it was a prejudiced and oppressive view of French people… Or at least French skunks.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Dumbo


    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    Pepé was aggressively trying to seduce a cat but the cat kept rejecting him . It wasn't rape. The whole joke was that he thought he was seducing one of his own kind but the cat knew miscegenation was wrong.

    Replies: @JMcG, @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Dumbo

    Pepe was offensive because he portrayed the French acting like African-Americans. Noam sayin'?

  44. @AnotherDad
    @anonymous



    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”
     
    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior.
     
    I actually have a bit of sympathy here. Historically people overwhelmingly grew up among their own people, with their own culture, norms, values, stories, heroes, etc. That's the natural order, and how humans are supposed--evolved--to live.

    American blacks grow up with their black stuff, but surrounded by the dominant/normative white culture, which once you are at least semi-sentient you realize just kicks the crap out of what your people have done. And yeah, whites are better looking to boot. (Obviously, whites are normative for me so i'm biased, but the rest of the world sees it that way too.)

    Now in fairness, whites--specifically Western Civilization--has kicked the crap out of the entire rest of the world for about 500 years. But at least people from the other major settled civilizations--China, India, Persia, etc.--have a rich culture of their own and many have the mental hardware to engage with the ideas, knowledge and technology that the West built. Blacks are bereft of much of anything to point to. Africa really was "the Dark Continent" and their performance in the US isn't all that impressive either.

    Now the flip side of this devil's bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i've noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.


    But it is psychologically demeaning--having to live constantly reminded that the white majority basically has created all the cool stuff and you're just an unneeded tag-along. People really should be living amongst their own kind, their own culture. The natural order is psychologically much more healthy.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, ‘akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us’.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. ‘deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us’.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation.
     
    The year 2050 more likely.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those.

     

    Uh, sure.

    Who holds the whip hand now?
     
    Jews, mainly, but they lend the whip out on occasion to anyone who promises to use it on the Jews' enemies. Better optics, they figure.

    If the Jews decided to shut down BLM, they could do it over the next weekend.
    , @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    , @Anon
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    Who holds the whip hand now?
     
    Instead of self-reflection and self-improvement, you delight in that which you condemn.

    Thanks for proving AnotherDad’s point!
    , @ic1000
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    > You people... So dumb. Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    N.N., thank you for your wise counsel. But, uh, I’m kinda dumb. What, exactly, do you advise?

    If it’s “Enjoy the decline,” that one I’ve heard before.

    , @Johnny Smoggins
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president.
     
    ......and there's been no power or running water since 2025.
    , @Luzzatto
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    So there will no longer be any so-called"pure Whites" left in 2200 but there will still be people with White phenotypes. Like journalist Charlie LeDuff for example who has Louisiana Creole ancestry but physically looks like a Huwhite man. So as long as White phenotypes continue to exist there will always be someone else to blame for Black failures!

    , @AnotherDad
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?
     
    The WaWa--WallStreet/Washington--axis of evil--now with BigTech outpost of evil.

    Ethnically: Mostly Jews and "good white" gentiles.


    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president.
     
    You know what they say about predicting the future. But i'll hazard a guess here: Very unlikely.

    Immigration uber alles is a Jewish tic--borders bad! nations bad! keeping us out bad!--just something in the DNA and their self-interest. It serves to break and balkanize America. But that job is pretty much done.

    America has heavily Latino-ized during my life, and somewhat Asianized. Those peoples, might be interested in their relatives coming, but have no interest in importing lots of Africans. Basically we are slumping toward being a more functional version of Brazil. You don't see Brazil saying "send us more Africans".

    Could easily imagine 5 presidents in a row in 2200 who have some black admixture. But they would likely be mostly some white-Latino-Asian mix and look something like Brazil's ruling class. I.e. not actually "black".

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    , @Anon
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Jews and mexicans, primarily, with a few sprinklings of Chinese here and there.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

     

    Dude: you shoulda known what these guys would say.

    As for your scenario, I don't think so. I suspect that the current flight from white is (a) temporary and (b) tremendously exaggerated.
  45. As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior. And I was not alone. The Black society into which I was born was riddled with these beliefs.

    “The Black society into which I was born [in 1970] was riddled with these beliefs.”

    …riddled with these beliefs.

    • Troll: RichardTaylor
  46. @kaganovitch
    @Bill P

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, t̶h̶e̶y̶’l̶l̶ b̶e̶ w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ a̶ l̶o̶t̶ o̶f̶ m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ they'll be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp. FIFY

    Replies: @CCZ, @ic1000, @Dissident

    Mark Twain Branch of the Detroit Public Library has some books for the taking!!

    http://www.detroiturbex.com/content/parksandrec/twain/index.html

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @CCZ

    Thousands of destroyed books. All that hard work and effort, and knowledge, gone.
    That is just sad...except for the Steven King books, of course. Like cockroaches, they will be around forever.
    Reminds me of the library scenes in "Logan's Run" and "The Time Machine."

    , @kaganovitch
    @CCZ

    It brings tears to ones eyes. Barbarians.

  47. @Anon7
    @Morton's toes

    Here's how little children learn to read now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQM-6NzyIU

    "B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous coward, @TWS

    ‘A’ is for ‘ally’

    Totally dropped the ball on that one.

  48. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar



    https://www.oxforddnb.com/doc/searchableMedia/odnb-9780198614128-e-1003132-graphic-1-full.jpg
    Reg Cæsar at work

     

    Sorry to dox you bro.

    Replies: @Polistra, @PiltdownMan, @Reg Cæsar

    To paraphrase Cardinal Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict, if three days go by when I’m not labeled a troll by Mr Taylor, I have to examine my conscience.

  49. If anyone in the past who held or voiced an opinion that is now considered offensive to certain races, or LGBT+, is now to be condemned and their work denounced and rejected, that brings up an obvious question. What about the extensive, still standing, basic infrastructure of America, e.g., major buildings, roads, dams, airports, bridges, and electrical power transmission lines?

    From my experience the opinions on race and LGBT+ held by the working class that built most of that infrastructure would be considered outrageous by the woke.

    So why stop at statues, paintings, films, place names, and books? Why aren’t the woke following their own rhetoric and demanding that NYC, SF, LA, Seattle, D.C., college campuses, etc., etc. essentially be razed to the ground?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Voltarde

    All in good time, mon petit. As their ignorance knows no bounds, it's reasonable to predict that they'll wreck more than they mean to, upon which it'll be a recurrence of "when whitey comin back"--but there will mainly be just Asians, and they won't be anywhere near as solicitous as whitey was.

    This is their golden age, but they'll never know it. They are the weaponized destroyers of white western civilization.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Voltarde

    Because, mon frere, nobody ever axed the opinion of the working class for their opinions. Their job was to dig, not shoot their mouths off.

    https://youtu.be/s2w9X_tHU7k

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  50. @anonymous
    "As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior."

    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior. Black people on the other hand are like any other people, judge them as you find them. "Blackness" is meaningless. Dr. Seuss helped me to learn to read when I was six-years-old. I barely remember the illustrations. If you are still traumatized by childhood memories of Pepe le Pew and Tarzan, medication or an Analyst's couch might help.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    Charles Blow’s gay, isn’t he? He should love muscle man Tarzan in nothing but his leopard skin little skirt. Blow probably fantasied about Tarzan rescuing him and taking Blow home to his treehouse. Tarzan was my favorite comic book. Every week, I’d buy a Tarzan comic book and a book of paper dolls. I liked the stories, the other characters and the exotic locale.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Alden

    The part about buying the book of paper dolls didn't make sense. But then I remembered you were a girl.

    (We boys liked Tarzan, also. But paper dolls, not so much.)

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Ray P

  51. Aside from the other issues touched on in the rest of the thread, this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate’s part. They’re really damaging their business.

    By highlighting some un-PC things that Geisel wrote/drew they’re poisoning the brand for liberals. Liberal parents or grandparents are not going to say, “oh, well, I’m so glad they got rid of his racist stuff, now I think I’ll go buy Cat in the Hat.” They’ll see him as tainted and just move on to other children’s authors. Previously they hadn’t even thought about it, or been aware of it, but now everybody has it in the back of their mind.

    Conservatives are not going to want to buy these books after this kerfluffle as they’ll see them as bowdlerized versions, and/or they may not want to support the estate after they make a move like this. (Dr. Seuss probably appealed less to conservative parents to begin with.)

    So they manage to alienate both sides with this move.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @SimpleSong

    this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate’s part

    On the contrary. Consider that this is a brilliant, and possibly cynical, marketing ploy. They stop publishing six fairly obscure, already partially forgotten, titles, claim they are doing it out of "racial sensitivity". That costs them nothing, probably saves them overhead. As a result they start a mass panic that has launched other Dr Seuss titles to top of Amazon's best seller list. So short term - huge revenue bump. Not bad.

    Moreover, if you are thinking long term, SJWs are probably the not the best target group for children's books, since they don't breed that much. If you can convince millions of evangelicals and Mormons, who in the past tended to distrust Seuss as secular, that they should adopt Seuss as one of their own you have just opened up the only real demographic growth market left.

    Someday this will be an HBS case study on how to reposition a brand.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Forbes

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @SimpleSong

    "Geisel wrote/drew"

    Geisel's non-animal characters were amorphous blobs with no discernible gender. Dr. Seuss was a transhumanist before transhumanism became the thing. He's up there with Freud in the hall of villains. Although his books should remain on the shelves; except for the one with the doggie. The Dog-Love cult must be destroyed.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @SimpleSong

    Seuss books are dominating Amazon's best sellers lists right now.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

  52. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation.

    The year 2050 more likely.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those.

    Uh, sure.

    Who holds the whip hand now?

    Jews, mainly, but they lend the whip out on occasion to anyone who promises to use it on the Jews’ enemies. Better optics, they figure.

    If the Jews decided to shut down BLM, they could do it over the next weekend.

  53. And of course this seems to need explaining, over and over, but by “the Jews” I mean wealthy and powerful Jews. Not the ones trolling unz.com.

  54. Ed says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Ed

    Of course blacks will dominate. They are the future because of their cognitive abilities, industriousness, cultural production, science & technology orientation & talents, international appeal & influence, organizational skills ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles St. Charles

    , @HammerJack
    @Ed

    If he's in the top half of his class, there must be an awful lot of students with negative GPAs. Yet another negro innovation! Someone tell Google.

    , @David
    @Ed

    I was a math teacher for a year. In my limited experience, a class with less than a 75% passing rate has, in fact, close to a zero pass rate. In a failing class, any sign on the part of a student of awareness of, let along interest in, the subject is rewarded with a C.

    So I'd say that 0.13 is overstated.

    , @Possumman
    @Ed

    His mom was working 3 jobs---probably 3 corners!

    , @black sea
    @Ed

    Thanks for posting this link. On 272 days over the past three years, this student has been absent or late; in other words, about 75% of the time. His mother appears to be genuinely concerned about his graduation prospects, but should you really have to explain to a parent, or to a teenager, that an absence rate like this is going to present problems? How much further can you dumb the whole process down?

    With some people, you have to keep things very simple. And expect very little. That's just the way it is.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Forbes, @Abolish_public_education

  55. @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    Of course blacks will dominate. They are the future because of their cognitive abilities, industriousness, cultural production, science & technology orientation & talents, international appeal & influence, organizational skills …

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Grotesque.

    , @Charles St. Charles
    @Bardon Kaldian

    What the...!?

  56. This retconning movement bears the classic hallmark of bullying – a cowardly picking on easy targets. Instead of digging into the time series of supposedly bad white behaviour (a rich seam, but a mere thread compared to that of other cultures, incidentally), why not do the balls-ier thing and examine the cross section of current bad behaviours in the world we actually inhabit? Eg. go protest, or Blow on about: the treatment of women in Muslim countries, the caste system that’s pretty ‘systemic’ and ‘racist’ in India, the ethnic and religious suppression and worse in China, the unique celebration of homosexuals in Putin’s Russia etc etc.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @TyRade

    The entire oeuvre of the woke-PC-SJW brigades is bullying, plain and simple.

    Bullies are the epitome of those possessing insecurity, and an inferiority complex, so they must strike-out, demanding of, and intimidating, others before their pathetic true selves are revealed for all to laugh at.

    They make a game of targeting those whom they feel are most threatening, using the game of power politics to demand their place in the sun: "I'm an oppressed victim, and the reason is you, so you must relinquish any and all power as recompense for my suffering at your expense."

    Bullies are defeated by responding in-kind, with strength and a stiff backbone, telling them to back-off. Rolling over and accommodating them merely encourages more bullying behavior.

  57. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Who holds the whip hand now?

    Instead of self-reflection and self-improvement, you delight in that which you condemn.

    Thanks for proving AnotherDad’s point!

  58. Sure, draw inferences from an ostensibly Chicano mouse and his friends, but what are we to make of explicitly White cartoon characters like Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam, and Bluto, not to mention Popeye and Olive Oyl?

  59. @SimpleSong
    Aside from the other issues touched on in the rest of the thread, this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate's part. They're really damaging their business.

    By highlighting some un-PC things that Geisel wrote/drew they're poisoning the brand for liberals. Liberal parents or grandparents are not going to say, "oh, well, I'm so glad they got rid of his racist stuff, now I think I'll go buy Cat in the Hat." They'll see him as tainted and just move on to other children's authors. Previously they hadn't even thought about it, or been aware of it, but now everybody has it in the back of their mind.

    Conservatives are not going to want to buy these books after this kerfluffle as they'll see them as bowdlerized versions, and/or they may not want to support the estate after they make a move like this. (Dr. Seuss probably appealed less to conservative parents to begin with.)

    So they manage to alienate both sides with this move.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @SunBakedSuburb, @The Last Real Calvinist

    this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate’s part

    On the contrary. Consider that this is a brilliant, and possibly cynical, marketing ploy. They stop publishing six fairly obscure, already partially forgotten, titles, claim they are doing it out of “racial sensitivity”. That costs them nothing, probably saves them overhead. As a result they start a mass panic that has launched other Dr Seuss titles to top of Amazon’s best seller list. So short term – huge revenue bump. Not bad.

    Moreover, if you are thinking long term, SJWs are probably the not the best target group for children’s books, since they don’t breed that much. If you can convince millions of evangelicals and Mormons, who in the past tended to distrust Seuss as secular, that they should adopt Seuss as one of their own you have just opened up the only real demographic growth market left.

    Someday this will be an HBS case study on how to reposition a brand.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Possibly...it will be interesting to see how it plays out long term. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for Evangelicals to adopt something that is completely alien to their core values out of some misplaced sense of solidarity. (Let's see, can I think of any examples...?)

    On the other hand, kids books (and movie deals based on kids books, merchandise, etc.) seem like one of those things that do best when they're seen as universally loved and not the least bit controversial. I would guess that the Star Wars franchise, for example, has underperformed relative to what it could have done if it had stayed clear of culture war territory. Not that it doesn't make plenty of money, but I can't imagine Disney is 100% happy with how it has performed relative to expectations.

    Some things, sure, you do well inflaming culture war stuff. Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian. Things like cars, where spend a lot of money but only get to buy one, it's a good way to stand out, it's better to be the first choice of a subgroup rather than the second choice of a larger group. On the other hand if you are relying on large numbers of people to make a small purchase, and they generally purchase multiple items, I'm not so sure it's a good strategy. Personally if I want to buy my grandsons/granddaughters some small gift the last thing I want is to create unnecessary drama with one of my daughters in law, or have this be seen as a political act.

    Replies: @Jack D, @James J O'Meara

    , @Forbes
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Provocative analysis.

    We'll see if the tactic of cancelling six books works to strengthen the brand, as you suggest, or results incomplete cancelation of the Dr. Seuss brand. Looks to be a very risky strategy, if it was in fact a calculated move.

  60. @James Speaks

    I attended whose student body was roughly evenly split between white and Black students. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white.
     
    This should have been a clue. We (the set of all hateful white people) also find Blacks unappealing to look at, to be around, to listen to, etc. etc.

    Let's review:
    https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/02/ff0b9819-31f3-4af3-abeb-356a5587893a.jpg?w=620

    Replies: @ic1000

    > Let’s review

    Thanks, swipe left or swipe right? Xis picture illustrates the encyclopedia entry for “Revealed Preferences.”

    This portrait also accompanies “Stereotype Threat.” At first glance, xhe seems to brim with resentment and hostility, a self-centered scold who delights in smearing reputations and inflicting pain.

    But in actuality

  61. @kaganovitch
    @Bill P

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, t̶h̶e̶y̶’l̶l̶ b̶e̶ w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ a̶ l̶o̶t̶ o̶f̶ m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ they'll be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp. FIFY

    Replies: @CCZ, @ic1000, @Dissident

    Cool strikethrus, Mr. K!

  62. Wow, Blow watched a lot of TV. No wonder he’s such an insufferable maggot now. Oh and plain ole despicable racist.

  63. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    > You people… So dumb. Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    N.N., thank you for your wise counsel. But, uh, I’m kinda dumb. What, exactly, do you advise?

    If it’s “Enjoy the decline,” that one I’ve heard before.

  64. @kaganovitch
    @Bill P

    I’m starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, t̶h̶e̶y̶’l̶l̶ b̶e̶ w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ a̶ l̶o̶t̶ o̶f̶ m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ they'll be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp. FIFY

    Replies: @CCZ, @ic1000, @Dissident

    [unwoke books] will be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp

    You mean if for some reason one’s Internet/phone, etc. logs, etc. would prove insufficient for linking one to crimethought?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Dissident

    Indeed.

  65. @RichardTaylor
    I'm not religious, but this guy gets it with regard to conservatives always defending the very people and institutions who hate them. Just like you guys are defending the liberal Dr. Seuss who openly pushed leftist talking points in his cartoons aimed at helpless children.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/once-more-into-the-breach/id1530654244?i=1000511486859

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist

    It’s almost as if healthy people like Dr. Seuss even if they disagree with his 1983 Cold War political views.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Steve Sailer


    It’s almost as if healthy people like Dr. Seuss even if they disagree with his 1983 Cold War political views.
     
    Well, that's a non-sequitur. But I know the Stuff White People Like crowd is touchy about their liberal heroes. Few things bring out their passions more than pointing out the triteness of their favorite artists.

    The same crew that actually enjoys PBS programming like Sesame Street.

  66. @hooodathunkit
    17 Instances Of Racism On ONE Page From A Dr. Seuss Book

    ... and don't forget to go to the main Bee page to find out there's 12 More Children's Books That Should Be Canceled due to all sorts of cultural appropriations, supremacist thinking, oppression, and of course a lot of whiteness as well.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @James J O'Meara

    I do not like your mental haze,
    I do not like your leftist ways.
    I do not like your son on blow,
    I do not like you, Uncle Joe.

    • LOL: JMcG, Charlotte
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hannah Katz

    Outstanding!

  67. @Morton's toes
    I learned to read from Dr. Seuss. My mom got the books every week at the library and the week I learned to read it was Green Eggs and Ham and Go Dog Go.

    Did you know that Go Dog Go was actually not written by Dr Seuss but by one of his hangers on?

    https://www.amazon.com/-/es/P-D-Eastman/dp/0553521098/

    The font for Eastman's name is fine print for a five year old!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon7, @CCZ, @JMcG

    “Go, Dog. Go” and “Are You My Mother?” Were the top requested books by my kids when they were little, fifteen years ago or so. Dr. Seuss was pretty much a non-starter. I don’t know why, we tried, but Dr. Seuss was not a hit.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JMcG

    "Go, Dog. Go!" is now up to almost $21 on Amazon, but only $5 as a board book.

    Perhaps the market is assuming that P.D. Eastman will be canceled for being a friend of Dr. Seuss.

    Replies: @JMcG

  68. @Bill P
    Isn't the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-"Jap" propaganda from WWII?

    How do blacks figure into this?

    I'm starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, they'll be worth a lot of money.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @JMcG, @Tex, @Lyra

    I’m cornering the market on Blazing Saddles DVDs and David Allen Coe CDs. Books take up a lot of space.

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @RichardTaylor

    It's almost as if healthy people like Dr. Seuss even if they disagree with his 1983 Cold War political views.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    It’s almost as if healthy people like Dr. Seuss even if they disagree with his 1983 Cold War political views.

    Well, that’s a non-sequitur. But I know the Stuff White People Like crowd is touchy about their liberal heroes. Few things bring out their passions more than pointing out the triteness of their favorite artists.

    The same crew that actually enjoys PBS programming like Sesame Street.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  70. @JMcG
    @Morton's toes

    “Go, Dog. Go” and “Are You My Mother?” Were the top requested books by my kids when they were little, fifteen years ago or so. Dr. Seuss was pretty much a non-starter. I don’t know why, we tried, but Dr. Seuss was not a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Go, Dog. Go!” is now up to almost $21 on Amazon, but only $5 as a board book.

    Perhaps the market is assuming that P.D. Eastman will be canceled for being a friend of Dr. Seuss.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Steve Sailer

    I’ll be rich beyond the dreams of avarice! I’ll be sure to send you a couple of first class round-trip tickets to Ireland on Aer Lingus with a stay in Ashford Castle.

  71. @Reg Cæsar

    charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling.
     
    Charles M Blow = Mr Bowel Clash. Mr Slow-Bleach.

    Charles McRay Blow = Lachrymal sob crew.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Paperback Writer

    Reg, we get it. You’re good at anagrams. Bravo for you. Now please move on.

    • Disagree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    Now please move on.
     
    Now please move on = Ow! Please, no venom!

    It's hard to mock the panerotic Mr Blow without getting below the belt, but you have contributed to the effort:

    Now please move on = Leave women's poon.


    https://video-images.vice.com/articles/591ee093ad2f73da041407c5/lede/1498638675495-hombres-gay-odian-mujeres.jpeg

  72. @Mr. Anon
    @Anon7


    The GayBCs

    “B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud.”
     
    D is for disease
    Which is what you can get
    When you hook up in a bathhouse
    With some dude named Chet.

    Replies: @Anon7

    You have made me laugh, Mr. Anon. Well done!

  73. @Dumbo

    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    LOL.

    Well, I guess it was a prejudiced and oppressive view of French people... Or at least French skunks.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Peter D. Bredon

    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;

    Pepé was aggressively trying to seduce a cat but the cat kept rejecting him . It wasn’t rape. The whole joke was that he thought he was seducing one of his own kind but the cat knew miscegenation was wrong.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Neuday

    It’s an Emmitt Till parable.

    , @stillCARealist
    @Neuday

    And all this time I thought it was stereotyping Frenchmen as stinky cads. silly me.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Neuday

    But what if Pepe identified as a cat? Like that pal of Nick Fuentes.

  74. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president.

    ……and there’s been no power or running water since 2025.

  75. @Voltarde
    If anyone in the past who held or voiced an opinion that is now considered offensive to certain races, or LGBT+, is now to be condemned and their work denounced and rejected, that brings up an obvious question. What about the extensive, still standing, basic infrastructure of America, e.g., major buildings, roads, dams, airports, bridges, and electrical power transmission lines?

    From my experience the opinions on race and LGBT+ held by the working class that built most of that infrastructure would be considered outrageous by the woke.

    So why stop at statues, paintings, films, place names, and books? Why aren't the woke following their own rhetoric and demanding that NYC, SF, LA, Seattle, D.C., college campuses, etc., etc. essentially be razed to the ground?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @James J O'Meara

    All in good time, mon petit. As their ignorance knows no bounds, it’s reasonable to predict that they’ll wreck more than they mean to, upon which it’ll be a recurrence of “when whitey comin back”–but there will mainly be just Asians, and they won’t be anywhere near as solicitous as whitey was.

    This is their golden age, but they’ll never know it. They are the weaponized destroyers of white western civilization.

  76. @CCZ
    @kaganovitch

    Mark Twain Branch of the Detroit Public Library has some books for the taking!!

    https://i.redd.it/xy8yo4de4q521.jpg

    https://wrotetrips.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/vintagemark10.jpg

    http://www.detroiturbex.com/content/parksandrec/twain/index.html

    Replies: @additionalMike, @kaganovitch

    Thousands of destroyed books. All that hard work and effort, and knowledge, gone.
    That is just sad…except for the Steven King books, of course. Like cockroaches, they will be around forever.
    Reminds me of the library scenes in “Logan’s Run” and “The Time Machine.”

  77. @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    If he’s in the top half of his class, there must be an awful lot of students with negative GPAs. Yet another negro innovation! Someone tell Google.

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @JMcG

    "Go, Dog. Go!" is now up to almost $21 on Amazon, but only $5 as a board book.

    Perhaps the market is assuming that P.D. Eastman will be canceled for being a friend of Dr. Seuss.

    Replies: @JMcG

    I’ll be rich beyond the dreams of avarice! I’ll be sure to send you a couple of first class round-trip tickets to Ireland on Aer Lingus with a stay in Ashford Castle.

  79. @Neuday
    @Dumbo


    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    Pepé was aggressively trying to seduce a cat but the cat kept rejecting him . It wasn't rape. The whole joke was that he thought he was seducing one of his own kind but the cat knew miscegenation was wrong.

    Replies: @JMcG, @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon

    It’s an Emmitt Till parable.

  80. @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    I was a math teacher for a year. In my limited experience, a class with less than a 75% passing rate has, in fact, close to a zero pass rate. In a failing class, any sign on the part of a student of awareness of, let along interest in, the subject is rewarded with a C.

    So I’d say that 0.13 is overstated.

  81. Any moderately talented artist/writer team, black or otherwise, has had 60 years now to knock off a highly profitable Seuss-like series of books aimed at tots of color and their literacy-minded parents. But there seems to be a demand problem as well as supply

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
    @Known Fact

    Blacks don’t read.™️

  82. @AnotherDad
    @anonymous



    “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior.”
     
    Charles, by any objective measure, black culture is inferior.
     
    I actually have a bit of sympathy here. Historically people overwhelmingly grew up among their own people, with their own culture, norms, values, stories, heroes, etc. That's the natural order, and how humans are supposed--evolved--to live.

    American blacks grow up with their black stuff, but surrounded by the dominant/normative white culture, which once you are at least semi-sentient you realize just kicks the crap out of what your people have done. And yeah, whites are better looking to boot. (Obviously, whites are normative for me so i'm biased, but the rest of the world sees it that way too.)

    Now in fairness, whites--specifically Western Civilization--has kicked the crap out of the entire rest of the world for about 500 years. But at least people from the other major settled civilizations--China, India, Persia, etc.--have a rich culture of their own and many have the mental hardware to engage with the ideas, knowledge and technology that the West built. Blacks are bereft of much of anything to point to. Africa really was "the Dark Continent" and their performance in the US isn't all that impressive either.

    Now the flip side of this devil's bargain is that blacks get to live in a white run nation at levels of prosperity that they do not have the innate ability to produce for themselves. As i've noted, contemporary blacks are the great beneficiaries of American slavery.


    But it is psychologically demeaning--having to live constantly reminded that the white majority basically has created all the cool stuff and you're just an unneeded tag-along. People really should be living amongst their own kind, their own culture. The natural order is psychologically much more healthy.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nigerian Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian

    This is a complex issue & I don’t have much info on it. But, let’s speculate…

    Blacks in Africa have, I guess, their own school system with books for children representing their own race. In Brazil and elsewhere in Latin America- not so, but they look up to whites as being someone desirable, and while they have their own popular culture (Brazil, Colombia,..)- they just don’t care for such intricacies. Blacks in those countries perfectly know they did not build any “high civilization”, but- they simply lack the inferiority complex. Perhaps racial stratification in “Latin” countries helps (blacks, mulattoes, other mixes, …), so that it’s not “us” vs “them” mentality.

    Unlike the US, local whites, although they run the world & are racially conscious, don’t engage in the guilt-tripping so characteristic of the Anglophone world. Slavery? So what, it happened. You look white, but ca. 10-15% of your ancestry is black? So what, you’re white.

    In the US, blacks have their own distinctive culture (mostly in music, food, probably some other areas,..), which is opposed to the “white culture”, i.e. global universal culture. Also, blacks absolutely dominate two national sports, NFL and NBA, while in Brazil, they are, give or take, represented proportionally in association football. There is no cultural climate in Brazil or Colombia or other countries that would treat blacks as something special, or potentially more masculine and less feminine than whites or tanned whites.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/22/408813624/expats-find-brazils-reputation-for-race-blindness-is-undone-by-reality

    Ky Adderley, an American from Philadelphia who runs an education consultancy in Rio de Janeiro, says he too was shocked when he moved to Brazil.

    “I feel like the racism here is much deeper than I’ve ever felt anywhere,” he says.

    He says he knew how to navigate being a black man in the U.S — “regardless of people’s skin tone, there was a sense in the black community that if you have a little bit in you, then you were black, and so then we were able to build community really quickly” — but in Brazil he found it really hard to find that same support network. So he created his own with other expatriate black men.

    “We have a group called Bros in Brazil,” he says. “And it is a group of maybe 15 guys now that come from Europe, Africa, the United States, and are living and working in Brazil as professionals.”

    They talk about race a lot. Brazil, Adderley says, is deeply segregated along racial lines, especially in Rio. When he walks his dog, if he isn’t wearing a suit, he often gets asked if he’s a professional dog-walker.

    He says simply being an educated black man in Brazil feels like a subversive act.

    “As a black person, what is your place in Rio de Janeiro? All the blacks that I see are in service jobs — and the darker you are, the less you’re seen,” he says. “So the role that you may have may be back in the kitchen and not out waiting a table.”

    Most people in Brazil tell him there isn’t a racism problem, and he says that’s the root of the issue: People aren’t addressing it.

    The worry for him is how the race question in Brazil will affect his daughter. A woman who was photographing his then-newborn told him that he needed to modify her features.

    “Well you can fix her nose, you know — you just pinch it. If you just pinch her nose every day and just keep pinching it, she won’t have that wide nose,” he recounts her telling him.

    The woman from London says the racism in Brazil has started to affect her kids, too.

    “My 3-year-old has started to come home from school, and he’s started to rub my arms and my skin,” she says. “He’d say, ‘Mummy, I’m trying to get the brown off.’ ”

    In short: nobody cares about blacks’ sensitivity about this or that- including blacks.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  83. And of course, I watched westerns that regularly depicted Native Americans as aggressive, bloodthirsty savages against whom valiant white men were forced to fight.

    I don’t know what world Charles Blow grew up in, but in my world, the Indians were always more popular than the cowboys and since Broken Arrow (1953?) they were always portrayed sympathetically.

    This reached a peak in 1970 when Arthur Penn and Calder Willingham combined to caricature the great, forgotten Thomas Berger’s wonderful novel Little Big Man. Made in the midst of Vietnam, Little Big Man took the Indian POV 100%.

    That was not in the book — it satirized Injuns as much as white men, although it did show sympathy for them and nostalgia over the loss of their way of life. For sheer page-turning readability combined with skill, you can’t beat this book.

    Calder Willingham’s novels are out of print and he is also forgotten, with more justification than Berger, who oughta be part of the Canon, but he should still be in print. He’s 1000x better than any of the current hacks. But he’s paying a price in the afterlife for what he did to Berger.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Paperback Writer

    Thank you for the book recommendation, PW. I tried to get it from the 'brary (checked on-line just now). They have the movie, but not the book. They do have "Big Little Man" if that helps, haha.

    Seriously, if the movie is that bad, I won't get it, but tell me if it is at least worthwhile.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Anonymous
    @Paperback Writer

    You must not have heard of western actor John Wayne. When Indians are mentioned or shown in his films, for the most part, they ain’t the good guys. Like in The Searchers, one of the 20th Century’s greatest ever made Hollywood western.

    But you might not have heard of The Searchers.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Paperback Writer

    Gone but not forgotten:

    "The Nightboy Cometh: Reflections — In a Jaundiced Eye — on Calder Willingham’s End as a Man & Jack Garfein’s The Strange One"

    https://counter-currents.com/2015/11/the-nightboy-cometh/

    Willingham's End as a Man was turned into an even more bizarre "method actor" film, starring Ben Gazarra. Well worth a view; Gazarra's "Oscar Wilde in military school" performance is mind melting.

    Wikipedia sez: During the late ’40s and early ’50s, Willingham was considered at the forefront of the gritty, realistic new breed of postwar novelists: Norman Mailer, James Jones, Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, and others, many of whom also made up the Greenwich Village literary scene at the time. While in 1969 Newsweek said his fiction “deserves a place among the dozen or so novels that must be mentioned if one is to speak of greatness in American fiction.”

    Not so great as to deserve their own Wikipedia entries, however, including his first novel, End as a Man. The main CW entry does give some idea of what the fuss was about: after dropping out of The Citadel, he moves to New York, where

    "Willingham’s career began in controversy with End as a Man (1947), a withering indictment of the macho culture of military academies, introducing his first iconic character, sadistic Jocko de Paris. The story included graphic hazing, sex, and suggested homosexuality, which in a period celebrating military victory, led the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to file obscenity charges against its publisher, Vanguard Press. The charges were ultimately dropped, but not before a trial which made the book a cause célèbre, famous writers rallying to its defense. Reviews singled out its savage humor and realistic dialogue."

    Fun Fact: Vanguard Press was a commie outfit, which "issued an array of books on radical topics, including studies of the Soviet Union, socialist theory, and politically oriented fiction by a range of writers [including] the first books of Nelson Algren, Saul Bellow, Marshall McLuhan, Joyce Carol Oates and Dr. Seuss.

    Another fun fact: he wrote a draft of iSteve fave The Graduate which was eventually rewritten by Buck Henry; but much to Henry's annoyance, he got the screenwriters' guild to demand he get co-writing credit on screen.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling.
     
    Charles M Blow = Mr Bowel Clash. Mr Slow-Bleach.

    Charles McRay Blow = Lachrymal sob crew.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Paperback Writer

    Sure doesn’t have the panache of Mr. Mojo Risin’.

  85. @Flubber82
    "Racism must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture."

    Children have a culture? This is a religious movement involved in exorcisms? Isn't that illegal like gay conversion therapy or actual exorcism?

    "It happened for children in the most inconspicuous of ways: It was relayed through toys and dolls, cartoons and children’s shows, fairy tales and children’s books."

    Yes it was in the most inconspicuous of ways. I, Sir Charles Blow, had to use a big word here to describe a complete lie.

    "… About 30 years ago, in my own version of the experiment, I grabbed an old yearbook of from a school I attended whose student body was roughly evenly split between white and Black students. I gave it to my nephew who was 4 or 5 years old and told him to point to the people he thought were pretty. Every face on which that little brown finger landed was white."

    What is the current scientific consensus on this?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Of course children have a culture. Not everything Charles Blow says is wrong, it’s just stupid. The thing is, adults can’t do anything about it. It exists wherever children are, without interfering adults.

  86. @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    His mom was working 3 jobs—probably 3 corners!

  87. @Polistra
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Blow's endless whining center upon the fact that he's a minority. Yet--oddly enough--he'd never consider moving to one of the many nations where he'd be in the majority.

    Isn't that strange? And it's not just him. Minuscule numbers of Black Americans ever move back to their native continent. Millions of Black Africans continue to flood over here to America, where they can enjoy life as a (pampered) minority. It's just so odd.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I was about to write that myself, Polistra. There are loads of inexpensive places one can move to where not a white person can be seen. Even if you can’t see ’em, anyway, that is – Peak Stupidity notes that Stevie Wonder says that he will move to the Mudderland, Ghana, in particular, to “protect his grandchildren from racism”. As commenter PeterIke says, “I bet he’s not Ghana like it there.”

    I wouldn’t put any money on his actually moving there either, but more power to the whole Wonder family. Mr. Blow, come join ’em. The weather is there, wish you were beautiful.*

    BTW, I’ve met not only more Ghanans in the last year than in the rest of my life (ZERO), but I met a girl from Paraguay who works at the auto-parts store. Para-freakin’-guay! She’s doing the looking up of make, model, year, engine-type on the computer that Americanos just won’t do.

    .

    * Sorry, only Parrot-heads are gonna get that one.

    • Agree: Paul Jolliffe
  88. @Neuday
    @Dumbo


    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    Pepé was aggressively trying to seduce a cat but the cat kept rejecting him . It wasn't rape. The whole joke was that he thought he was seducing one of his own kind but the cat knew miscegenation was wrong.

    Replies: @JMcG, @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon

    And all this time I thought it was stereotyping Frenchmen as stinky cads. silly me.

  89. There was an older lady who used to run the pre-school near us, who loved Dr. Seuss’ work so much she would celebrate his birthday with the kids each year. She was a real lefty politically (only found out when she was gushing over the Commie so-called Pope Francis, and I just let it be, cause she’s a great lady). I wonder what she thinks of this.

    I don’t know if you all know, or if I missed something, but my elementary school boy told me that Dr. Seuss’ birthday was the day before yesterday (yep, just checked it out). a) Is this newest cancelling bit being done purposefully on his birthday, or is it coincidental? b) I’m amazed that they still noted his birthday at the elementary school.

    I have never seen any better children’s books than those of Dr. Seuss. I call bullshit here. I call bullshit there. I call bullshit everywhere.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://images2.imgbox.com/0b/1e/mcYw3neH_o.jpg

  90. @JimDandy
    @DextersLabRat

    I hear they are already selling for astronomical prices on EBay.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Commenter Adam Smith (the other Adam Smith, not the Scottish Economist) wonders whether this was done on purpose by the publisher to bring prices way up, possibly after a big printing order was placed. If true it’s devious, but brilliant! One can make money off of wokeness just like anything else.

    You’d think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You’d think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    Buffet has always said "Be fearful when others are greedy, be greedy when others are fearful".

    , @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "The Cat In The Hat" that I bought yesterday has already doubled in value and it hasn't even been "discontinued" yet.

    I wonder what these will sell for...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-If-I-ran-a-zoo-Mulberry-street-McElligots-pool-the-cats-Quizzer/294044374835

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-The-Cat-s-Quizzer-Are-You-Smarter-Than-the-Cat-1976/274705879676

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-seuss-Lot-4-The-Cats-Quizzer-8x11/224373571158

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-6-Out-Of-Print-Dr-Seuss-Books-banned-Books/324505421640

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Charlotte

  91. Tex says:
    @Bill P
    Isn't the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-"Jap" propaganda from WWII?

    How do blacks figure into this?

    I'm starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, they'll be worth a lot of money.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @JMcG, @Tex, @Lyra

    Isn’t the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-“Jap” propaganda from WWII?

    Given that Seuss used Japanese caricatures to advocate ethnically-based incarceration for an indefinite period, and I mean incarnation strictly because of an ethnicity, you might think so.

    However, the real fun in examining Seuss’s work is the compare/contrast of the cartoons he did in the same period (like weeks or months apart from the stuff advocating Japanese internment) excoriating Governor Talmadge of Georgia for being a racist, which Suess claimed somehow harmed the war effort.

  92. Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture

    Just think how many men from St Louis and Detroit would never have been sent to prison for rape if they hadn’t seen a cartoon skunk clowning around on TV!

    I suppose Miss Piggy is to blame for the outbreak of fat women beating up thin men…

    If we make just one more movie judge or saintly figure black, then black American crime will instantly divide by 10 and reach 1950s levels; the last time that portrayals of black Americans in culture was uniformly positive.
    (- ;

    • Agree: Rahan
  93. Clearly, the biggest problem faced by African-Americans in 2021 is insufficient self-esteem

    Black Americans are obviously angst-ridden and filled with self-doubt. They have a culture of questioning everything about themselves, are intensely reflective and desiring to take complete self-responsibility.

    Cultural figures in this mode, like Sowell and McWhorter are hugely influential and others, like everyone else, are just nobodies

    Beyonce even just brought out an extremely long music video entitled “black is ok, but could do with quite a bit of work”.

    • LOL: Malcolm X-Lax
  94. @Achmed E. Newman
    There was an older lady who used to run the pre-school near us, who loved Dr. Seuss' work so much she would celebrate his birthday with the kids each year. She was a real lefty politically (only found out when she was gushing over the Commie so-called Pope Francis, and I just let it be, cause she's a great lady). I wonder what she thinks of this.

    I don't know if you all know, or if I missed something, but my elementary school boy told me that Dr. Seuss' birthday was the day before yesterday (yep, just checked it out). a) Is this newest cancelling bit being done purposefully on his birthday, or is it coincidental? b) I'm amazed that they still noted his birthday at the elementary school.

    I have never seen any better children's books than those of Dr. Seuss. I call bullshit here. I call bullshit there. I call bullshit everywhere.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  95. @Dissident
    @kaganovitch


    [unwoke books] will be what finally gets me sent to re-education camp
     
    You mean if for some reason one's Internet/phone, etc. logs, etc. would prove insufficient for linking one to crimethought?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Indeed.

  96. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JimDandy

    Commenter Adam Smith (the other Adam Smith, not the Scottish Economist) wonders whether this was done on purpose by the publisher to bring prices way up, possibly after a big printing order was placed. If true it's devious, but brilliant! One can make money off of wokeness just like anything else.

    You'd think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Adam Smith

    You’d think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    Buffet has always said “Be fearful when others are greedy, be greedy when others are fearful”.

  97. @Ed
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    Blacks are in no position to take over America lol.
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

    Here is a black student with a GPA of 0.13, that’s is in the middle of the pack for his school. This is not an atypical black schooling experience.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @HammerJack, @David, @Possumman, @black sea

    Thanks for posting this link. On 272 days over the past three years, this student has been absent or late; in other words, about 75% of the time. His mother appears to be genuinely concerned about his graduation prospects, but should you really have to explain to a parent, or to a teenager, that an absence rate like this is going to present problems? How much further can you dumb the whole process down?

    With some people, you have to keep things very simple. And expect very little. That’s just the way it is.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @black sea

    I read that article. Not a word that woman says is true. She obviously never lifted a finger to inquire as to her son’s progress. Now she’s humiliated.

    , @Forbes
    @black sea

    Baltimore, famously, only required one day per month attendance for a student to count in the pupil census for state funding. So the politicians, teachers' union, and administrators are all-in on the scheme to defraud the taxpayers on school funding and the incentives for assuring student attendance. It's not merely parents who are ignorant.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @black sea

    Parents of any sort have every right to expect — albeit unwisely— that the schools will do the task of educating their kids for them.

    After all, the government, the MSM, their DEM friends, etc. all tell them that the schools are staffed by:

    • credentialed teachers,
    • PhD psychologists,
    • EdD principals,
    • reading specialists,

    and many other expensive experts of assorted stripes.

    How could poor parents, themselves ruined by public education, think any different?

    For that matter, taxpayer expectations are reasonable, also. After all, the schools spend an average of $20K per kid per year.

  98. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JimDandy

    Commenter Adam Smith (the other Adam Smith, not the Scottish Economist) wonders whether this was done on purpose by the publisher to bring prices way up, possibly after a big printing order was placed. If true it's devious, but brilliant! One can make money off of wokeness just like anything else.

    You'd think Warren Buffet would have gotten in on the Wokeness Sector by now. If he gets woke, better SELL! SELL! SELL!

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Adam Smith

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Adam Smith

    BTW! EBay has prohibited the sale of all of the Dr. Seuss books in question.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/4/ebay-to-block-auctions-for-canceled-dr-seuss-books/

    Replies: @Adam Smith

    , @Charlotte
    @Adam Smith

    Ebay has cancelled the listings because the books “glorify violence,” according to the Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

  99. Sometimes only comedy can cut through a belief that is so patently insane that no one can see that the emperor has no clothes. The only good thing about our demographics and globalism is that it offers a test case for HBD – eg everywhere the Han Chinese go they’re prosperous and well behaved (or at least not physically violent). If there was no migration for the last 500 years we could only speculate about Africans. But modern America lays the truth bare.

    Adam Carolla explains:

  100. I thought Charles would appreciate Speedy Gonzalez always getting one over on Sylvester, the Gringo Pussy Gato

  101. The author is way off the mark with his criticism of Our Gang/Little Rascals.

    I’ve watched a few of these shows recently, since they’ve popped up on Youtube. Although the black kids are a minority, just one or two of the characters, they are presented with respect and are clearly on equal footing with the white kids.

    If anything, Our Gang/Little Rascals could be accused of promoting integration during Jim Crow times, rather than of placing the black kids in an inferior rank.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Aspiring Rapper and Honor Student

    "Although the black kids are a minority, just one or two of the characters, they are presented with respect and are clearly on equal footing with the white kids."

    Uh-uh, not good enough. The Black characters must be portrayed as hyper-intelligent and natural leaders of the gang, as they would be in real life (see: any Denzel Washington movie). This kind of racist stereotyping is what has been oppressing Black bodies for decades.

  102. @Michelle
    @Anonymous

    She reminds me of me and most of my neighbors, at this point. What else have we to do but watch Netflix and drink ourselves to death?

    Replies: @anonymous, @SunBakedSuburb

    “She reminds me”

    of my friend’s wife. She’s a teacher in the local school district — junior high in a school that has a large percentage of black kids. I suggested to my friend that his wife and her fellow white teachers are resistant to return to in-class learning because the black kids are mostly troublesome and sometimes dangerous. Public schools with a lot of black kids are dysfunctional. Always have been; always will be.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @John Up North
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Yeah, I think this is the main reason Chicago Public School teachers won't go back to classroom teaching. The panic porn lockdowns must be a godsend for urban public school teachers everywhere.

    , @Michelle
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Yeppers! What you said!

  103. @Mr. Anon

    Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture; Speedy Gonzales, whose friends helped popularize the corrosive stereotype of the drunk and lethargic Mexicans; and Mammy Two Shoes, a heavyset Black maid who spoke in a heavy accent.
     
    Whereas Elmer Fudd and Foghorn Leghorn showed white guys in a favorable light.

    And Pepe Le Pew normalized rape culture. Why? Because he was always on the make? Always trying to seduce the ladies? What other group of people do we so often find always sweet-talking the ladies? Could it be men who look like Charles Blow? Even though Charles Blow doesn't himself blow that way?

    Replies: @mc23

    I thought Pepe Le Pew was a fast talking French Skunk who always struck out. Apparently I am pretty shallow.

  104. @Buffalo Joe
    charles blow, seriously a man in need of counseling. Pepe le Pew = rape coulture. So sad. The nyt needs an onstaff psychiatrist. Now off to read the comments.

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    Pepe Le Pew is rape culture but not 2 Live Crew!

  105. @Hannah Katz
    @hooodathunkit

    I do not like your mental haze,
    I do not like your leftist ways.
    I do not like your son on blow,
    I do not like you, Uncle Joe.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Outstanding!

  106. @SimpleSong
    Aside from the other issues touched on in the rest of the thread, this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate's part. They're really damaging their business.

    By highlighting some un-PC things that Geisel wrote/drew they're poisoning the brand for liberals. Liberal parents or grandparents are not going to say, "oh, well, I'm so glad they got rid of his racist stuff, now I think I'll go buy Cat in the Hat." They'll see him as tainted and just move on to other children's authors. Previously they hadn't even thought about it, or been aware of it, but now everybody has it in the back of their mind.

    Conservatives are not going to want to buy these books after this kerfluffle as they'll see them as bowdlerized versions, and/or they may not want to support the estate after they make a move like this. (Dr. Seuss probably appealed less to conservative parents to begin with.)

    So they manage to alienate both sides with this move.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @SunBakedSuburb, @The Last Real Calvinist

    “Geisel wrote/drew”

    Geisel’s non-animal characters were amorphous blobs with no discernible gender. Dr. Seuss was a transhumanist before transhumanism became the thing. He’s up there with Freud in the hall of villains. Although his books should remain on the shelves; except for the one with the doggie. The Dog-Love cult must be destroyed.

  107. @Peter Akuleyev
    @SimpleSong

    this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate’s part

    On the contrary. Consider that this is a brilliant, and possibly cynical, marketing ploy. They stop publishing six fairly obscure, already partially forgotten, titles, claim they are doing it out of "racial sensitivity". That costs them nothing, probably saves them overhead. As a result they start a mass panic that has launched other Dr Seuss titles to top of Amazon's best seller list. So short term - huge revenue bump. Not bad.

    Moreover, if you are thinking long term, SJWs are probably the not the best target group for children's books, since they don't breed that much. If you can convince millions of evangelicals and Mormons, who in the past tended to distrust Seuss as secular, that they should adopt Seuss as one of their own you have just opened up the only real demographic growth market left.

    Someday this will be an HBS case study on how to reposition a brand.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Forbes

    Possibly…it will be interesting to see how it plays out long term. It certainly wouldn’t be out of character for Evangelicals to adopt something that is completely alien to their core values out of some misplaced sense of solidarity. (Let’s see, can I think of any examples…?)

    On the other hand, kids books (and movie deals based on kids books, merchandise, etc.) seem like one of those things that do best when they’re seen as universally loved and not the least bit controversial. I would guess that the Star Wars franchise, for example, has underperformed relative to what it could have done if it had stayed clear of culture war territory. Not that it doesn’t make plenty of money, but I can’t imagine Disney is 100% happy with how it has performed relative to expectations.

    Some things, sure, you do well inflaming culture war stuff. Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian. Things like cars, where spend a lot of money but only get to buy one, it’s a good way to stand out, it’s better to be the first choice of a subgroup rather than the second choice of a larger group. On the other hand if you are relying on large numbers of people to make a small purchase, and they generally purchase multiple items, I’m not so sure it’s a good strategy. Personally if I want to buy my grandsons/granddaughters some small gift the last thing I want is to create unnecessary drama with one of my daughters in law, or have this be seen as a political act.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @SimpleSong


    Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian.
     
    Doing something like this requires a deft touch. ("Never go full retard.") You have to make Subaru the car that lesbians drive without making it the car that ONLY lesbians drive. Subaru seems to have threaded the needle but if you go overboard you can easily alienate more people than you attract. Subaru was lucky in that its other core constituencies were SWPL outdoorsy type people who are not anti-gay. Being the official car of lesbians and say evangelicals would be a much trickier thing to pull off.

    It would be interesting to know the party preference of Subaru owners. I remember reading that back in the day Saab owners (and Subaru is the brand that seems to most closely occupy the former Saab niche in the auto ecosystem) voted 96% for McGovern or something like that.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Anonymous

    , @James J O'Meara
    @SimpleSong

    The Porsche Boxster is a chick car.

    https://youtu.be/BDvPeBGFVZw

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  108. @SimpleSong
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Possibly...it will be interesting to see how it plays out long term. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for Evangelicals to adopt something that is completely alien to their core values out of some misplaced sense of solidarity. (Let's see, can I think of any examples...?)

    On the other hand, kids books (and movie deals based on kids books, merchandise, etc.) seem like one of those things that do best when they're seen as universally loved and not the least bit controversial. I would guess that the Star Wars franchise, for example, has underperformed relative to what it could have done if it had stayed clear of culture war territory. Not that it doesn't make plenty of money, but I can't imagine Disney is 100% happy with how it has performed relative to expectations.

    Some things, sure, you do well inflaming culture war stuff. Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian. Things like cars, where spend a lot of money but only get to buy one, it's a good way to stand out, it's better to be the first choice of a subgroup rather than the second choice of a larger group. On the other hand if you are relying on large numbers of people to make a small purchase, and they generally purchase multiple items, I'm not so sure it's a good strategy. Personally if I want to buy my grandsons/granddaughters some small gift the last thing I want is to create unnecessary drama with one of my daughters in law, or have this be seen as a political act.

    Replies: @Jack D, @James J O'Meara

    Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian.

    Doing something like this requires a deft touch. (“Never go full retard.”) You have to make Subaru the car that lesbians drive without making it the car that ONLY lesbians drive. Subaru seems to have threaded the needle but if you go overboard you can easily alienate more people than you attract. Subaru was lucky in that its other core constituencies were SWPL outdoorsy type people who are not anti-gay. Being the official car of lesbians and say evangelicals would be a much trickier thing to pull off.

    It would be interesting to know the party preference of Subaru owners. I remember reading that back in the day Saab owners (and Subaru is the brand that seems to most closely occupy the former Saab niche in the auto ecosystem) voted 96% for McGovern or something like that.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Jack D

    Yeah, normally I'm skeptical of the value added of things like advertising agencies or brand managers, but whoever managed to get Subaru just the right amount into that niche (no vulgarity intended) deserves a raise. Subaru and Tesla, those two are the best-marketed car brands on the planet.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Good point about positional goods. I think Subaru can rest easy with lesbian fans out of the latter's impotence in political math but potential brand loyalty if you give them crumbs. So, it doesn't pay to shoo them away from one's automotive or jeans or summer hotel brand, it can really only backfire. Exclusive girls' boarding schools is another kettle of fish, those only exist for increasing daughters' hetero SMV.

    The hostile takeover of the WNBA into lesbian-brandland was bad business because sports -> popularity -> sex and thus irks a demographic with bigger clout, i.e. rich dads and the daughters they are hazing (and who want to be hazed) for lineage purposes. If you've only got 2 small alternative customer bases for your product, don't cater to the cheapskate one that doesn't even really like your product...

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  109. We had Little Black Sambo among the childrens books in our house when I was a kid.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Cloudswrest

    I had a Little Black Sambo book. It was one of the children’s books from paternal grandparents. They must have had at least a thousand which they distributed to the grandchildren.

    I don’t remember the story. But I admired his house so much. It was sort of Hawaiian Tiki. No walls just curtains and dark wicker roof and floor green and purple flower print fabric I thought it was beautiful when I was 3 years old.

  110. @black sea
    @Ed

    Thanks for posting this link. On 272 days over the past three years, this student has been absent or late; in other words, about 75% of the time. His mother appears to be genuinely concerned about his graduation prospects, but should you really have to explain to a parent, or to a teenager, that an absence rate like this is going to present problems? How much further can you dumb the whole process down?

    With some people, you have to keep things very simple. And expect very little. That's just the way it is.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Forbes, @Abolish_public_education

    I read that article. Not a word that woman says is true. She obviously never lifted a finger to inquire as to her son’s progress. Now she’s humiliated.

  111. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    White natural beauty is pretty immutable and universally recognized.

    Hence the promotion of vice, miscegenation, homosexuality, mass non white immigration.

    Invasion. Weaken the host, extract resources.

  112. @goldgettin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Now,they're openly bragging about the masks. We're the maskers.
    Aren't you a masker? Another divide and conquer technique that also allows them to
    identify the enemy.Look how proud of their face diapers they've become.
    Criminals always hide their identities.They are guilty and know it.
    This is going to get ugly. Law or law of the jungle?

    Replies: @Forbes

    It’s been the law of the jungle for quite some time, i.e. the rule of man instead of the rule of law. The evidence is all around you.

  113. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    So there will no longer be any so-called”pure Whites” left in 2200 but there will still be people with White phenotypes. Like journalist Charlie LeDuff for example who has Louisiana Creole ancestry but physically looks like a Huwhite man. So as long as White phenotypes continue to exist there will always be someone else to blame for Black failures!

  114. @black sea
    @Ed

    Thanks for posting this link. On 272 days over the past three years, this student has been absent or late; in other words, about 75% of the time. His mother appears to be genuinely concerned about his graduation prospects, but should you really have to explain to a parent, or to a teenager, that an absence rate like this is going to present problems? How much further can you dumb the whole process down?

    With some people, you have to keep things very simple. And expect very little. That's just the way it is.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Forbes, @Abolish_public_education

    Baltimore, famously, only required one day per month attendance for a student to count in the pupil census for state funding. So the politicians, teachers’ union, and administrators are all-in on the scheme to defraud the taxpayers on school funding and the incentives for assuring student attendance. It’s not merely parents who are ignorant.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Forbes

    The crooked politicians throw undiminished sums of money at the schools (their teachers union friends) even when no kids show up; continuation of pre-COVID per-student funding levels, despite huge numbers of excused absences (approaching 100% no-show), with the schools then being allowed to keep the money, proves beyond any reasonable doubt what that spending is for.

    Compulsory attendance (i.e. the draft) is just a convenient pretext that the tax (patronage) dollars are for the kids.

  115. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    The WaWa–WallStreet/Washington–axis of evil–now with BigTech outpost of evil.

    Ethnically: Mostly Jews and “good white” gentiles.

    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president.

    You know what they say about predicting the future. But i’ll hazard a guess here: Very unlikely.

    Immigration uber alles is a Jewish tic–borders bad! nations bad! keeping us out bad!–just something in the DNA and their self-interest. It serves to break and balkanize America. But that job is pretty much done.

    America has heavily Latino-ized during my life, and somewhat Asianized. Those peoples, might be interested in their relatives coming, but have no interest in importing lots of Africans. Basically we are slumping toward being a more functional version of Brazil. You don’t see Brazil saying “send us more Africans”.

    Could easily imagine 5 presidents in a row in 2200 who have some black admixture. But they would likely be mostly some white-Latino-Asian mix and look something like Brazil’s ruling class. I.e. not actually “black”.

    • Replies: @Luzzatto
    @AnotherDad

    Brazil's ruling class is White not Mixed Race. The wealthiest Brazilian in the world is a Sephardic Jew named Joseph Safra and Brazil's President Jair Bolsonaro is German and Italian!

  116. Democrats believe that there is a Dr. Seuss to The Daily Stormer/Stormfront pipeline. That Dr. Seuss is a gateway drug towards White Supremacist Andrew Anglin for example, so Dr. Seuss must be book burned. Which is a perfect setup for a Babylon Bee article!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Luzzatto


    Democrats believe that there is a Dr. Seuss to The Daily Stormer/Stormfront pipeline.
     
    Democrats were fine with Seuss once.


    Dr. Seuss Satirized “America First” Decades before Donald Trump Made It Policy


    https://i.redd.it/1zelaetpyt611.jpg

  117. @TyRade
    This retconning movement bears the classic hallmark of bullying - a cowardly picking on easy targets. Instead of digging into the time series of supposedly bad white behaviour (a rich seam, but a mere thread compared to that of other cultures, incidentally), why not do the balls-ier thing and examine the cross section of current bad behaviours in the world we actually inhabit? Eg. go protest, or Blow on about: the treatment of women in Muslim countries, the caste system that's pretty 'systemic' and 'racist' in India, the ethnic and religious suppression and worse in China, the unique celebration of homosexuals in Putin's Russia etc etc.

    Replies: @Forbes

    The entire oeuvre of the woke-PC-SJW brigades is bullying, plain and simple.

    Bullies are the epitome of those possessing insecurity, and an inferiority complex, so they must strike-out, demanding of, and intimidating, others before their pathetic true selves are revealed for all to laugh at.

    They make a game of targeting those whom they feel are most threatening, using the game of power politics to demand their place in the sun: “I’m an oppressed victim, and the reason is you, so you must relinquish any and all power as recompense for my suffering at your expense.”

    Bullies are defeated by responding in-kind, with strength and a stiff backbone, telling them to back-off. Rolling over and accommodating them merely encourages more bullying behavior.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  118. @AnotherDad
    @Nigerian Nationalist


    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?
     
    The WaWa--WallStreet/Washington--axis of evil--now with BigTech outpost of evil.

    Ethnically: Mostly Jews and "good white" gentiles.


    It’s the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president.
     
    You know what they say about predicting the future. But i'll hazard a guess here: Very unlikely.

    Immigration uber alles is a Jewish tic--borders bad! nations bad! keeping us out bad!--just something in the DNA and their self-interest. It serves to break and balkanize America. But that job is pretty much done.

    America has heavily Latino-ized during my life, and somewhat Asianized. Those peoples, might be interested in their relatives coming, but have no interest in importing lots of Africans. Basically we are slumping toward being a more functional version of Brazil. You don't see Brazil saying "send us more Africans".

    Could easily imagine 5 presidents in a row in 2200 who have some black admixture. But they would likely be mostly some white-Latino-Asian mix and look something like Brazil's ruling class. I.e. not actually "black".

    Replies: @Luzzatto

    Brazil’s ruling class is White not Mixed Race. The wealthiest Brazilian in the world is a Sephardic Jew named Joseph Safra and Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro is German and Italian!

  119. @black sea
    @Ed

    Thanks for posting this link. On 272 days over the past three years, this student has been absent or late; in other words, about 75% of the time. His mother appears to be genuinely concerned about his graduation prospects, but should you really have to explain to a parent, or to a teenager, that an absence rate like this is going to present problems? How much further can you dumb the whole process down?

    With some people, you have to keep things very simple. And expect very little. That's just the way it is.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Forbes, @Abolish_public_education

    Parents of any sort have every right to expect — albeit unwisely— that the schools will do the task of educating their kids for them.

    After all, the government, the MSM, their DEM friends, etc. all tell them that the schools are staffed by:

    • credentialed teachers,
    • PhD psychologists,
    • EdD principals,
    • reading specialists,

    and many other expensive experts of assorted stripes.

    How could poor parents, themselves ruined by public education, think any different?

    For that matter, taxpayer expectations are reasonable, also. After all, the schools spend an average of $20K per kid per year.

  120. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Jews and mexicans, primarily, with a few sprinklings of Chinese here and there.

  121. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, we get it. You’re good at anagrams. Bravo for you. Now please move on.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Now please move on.

    Now please move on = Ow! Please, no venom!

    It’s hard to mock the panerotic Mr Blow without getting below the belt, but you have contributed to the effort:

    Now please move on = Leave women’s poon.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  122. @Luzzatto
    Democrats believe that there is a Dr. Seuss to The Daily Stormer/Stormfront pipeline. That Dr. Seuss is a gateway drug towards White Supremacist Andrew Anglin for example, so Dr. Seuss must be book burned. Which is a perfect setup for a Babylon Bee article!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Democrats believe that there is a Dr. Seuss to The Daily Stormer/Stormfront pipeline.

    Democrats were fine with Seuss once.

    Dr. Seuss Satirized “America First” Decades before Donald Trump Made It Policy

  123. @Paperback Writer

    And of course, I watched westerns that regularly depicted Native Americans as aggressive, bloodthirsty savages against whom valiant white men were forced to fight.

     

    I don't know what world Charles Blow grew up in, but in my world, the Indians were always more popular than the cowboys and since Broken Arrow (1953?) they were always portrayed sympathetically.

    This reached a peak in 1970 when Arthur Penn and Calder Willingham combined to caricature the great, forgotten Thomas Berger's wonderful novel Little Big Man. Made in the midst of Vietnam, Little Big Man took the Indian POV 100%.

    That was not in the book -- it satirized Injuns as much as white men, although it did show sympathy for them and nostalgia over the loss of their way of life. For sheer page-turning readability combined with skill, you can't beat this book.

    Calder Willingham's novels are out of print and he is also forgotten, with more justification than Berger, who oughta be part of the Canon, but he should still be in print. He's 1000x better than any of the current hacks. But he's paying a price in the afterlife for what he did to Berger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    Thank you for the book recommendation, PW. I tried to get it from the ‘brary (checked on-line just now). They have the movie, but not the book. They do have “Big Little Man” if that helps, haha.

    Seriously, if the movie is that bad, I won’t get it, but tell me if it is at least worthwhile.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I saw Little Big Man years ago and thought it pretty stupid and unfunny.

  124. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paperback Writer

    And of course, I watched westerns that regularly depicted Native Americans as aggressive, bloodthirsty savages against whom valiant white men were forced to fight.

     

    I don't know what world Charles Blow grew up in, but in my world, the Indians were always more popular than the cowboys and since Broken Arrow (1953?) they were always portrayed sympathetically.

    This reached a peak in 1970 when Arthur Penn and Calder Willingham combined to caricature the great, forgotten Thomas Berger's wonderful novel Little Big Man. Made in the midst of Vietnam, Little Big Man took the Indian POV 100%.

    That was not in the book -- it satirized Injuns as much as white men, although it did show sympathy for them and nostalgia over the loss of their way of life. For sheer page-turning readability combined with skill, you can't beat this book.

    Calder Willingham's novels are out of print and he is also forgotten, with more justification than Berger, who oughta be part of the Canon, but he should still be in print. He's 1000x better than any of the current hacks. But he's paying a price in the afterlife for what he did to Berger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    You must not have heard of western actor John Wayne. When Indians are mentioned or shown in his films, for the most part, they ain’t the good guys. Like in The Searchers, one of the 20th Century’s greatest ever made Hollywood western.

    But you might not have heard of The Searchers.

  125. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flubber82
    "Reruns were a fixture in the pre-cable days, so I watched children’s shows like Tarzan, about a half-naked white man in the middle of an African jungle who conquers and tames it and outwits the Black people there, who are all portrayed as primitive, if not savage. I watched the old “Our Gang” (“Little Rascals”) shorts in which the Buckwheat character summoned all the stereotypes of the pickaninny."

    That's reality

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    At least he didn’t diss Stymie.

  126. @Flubber82
    "Reruns were a fixture in the pre-cable days, so I watched children’s shows like Tarzan, about a half-naked white man in the middle of an African jungle who conquers and tames it and outwits the Black people there, who are all portrayed as primitive, if not savage. I watched the old “Our Gang” (“Little Rascals”) shorts in which the Buckwheat character summoned all the stereotypes of the pickaninny."

    That's reality

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Speaking of Buckwheat…

  127. Let them ban Theodore Geisel. He’s not one of us.
    It shows that the blacks and wokes are not very smart.

    Banning these books will have the opposite effect they expect.
    It will simply inculcate the Anti-White bias while in fact banning a Jew.

    Jews are White to those that batter. What do those black lives matter?
    Let them fight it out. We will be the better for it.

    I’ll say it again and again. LET THEM FIGHT!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. Doom

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    Replies: @anon, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Dissident, @James J O'Meara

  128. It’s good enough for me.

  129. I don’t have a lot of love for Doctor Seuss. He was a writer of horrid children’s books that did not improve the reading ability of our young by one writ. He wrote non-sensical stories about situations that could never occur in real life. Sesame Street and McGuffey readers were far better.

    Having said all this, I thought that this paragraph by the obviously ignoramus author was totally out of line.

    Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture; Speedy Gonzales, whose friends helped popularize the corrosive stereotype of the drunk and lethargic Mexicans; and Mammy Two Shoes, a heavyset Black maid who spoke in a heavy accent.

    Warner Bros had a lot of nasty stereotypes of blacks and Hispanics at the beginning of the 20th Century. Bugs Bunny was the African trickster rabbit who became the Urban Negro hustler. The Tasmanian Devil was an African savage. Speedy Gonzalez poked fun at Mexicans.
    But most of the other funny animals in Warner Bros’s cast were not-too-flattering minstrel depictions of working class whites. Yosemite Sam was a trigger-happy cowboy who once played a Confederate Officer. Elmer Fudd was a middle-class “nerd” and an “egghead” who was obsessed with hunting that “wascawwy wabbit” to prove his manhood. Porky Pig was a “Little Lord Fauntleroy”, an overdressed Yankee wimp with a frightened stutter. Foghorn Leghorn was based on a Southern Senator. Perhaps the biggest wild card was Daffy Duck. I still can’t figure out who he represents.

    As I said on unz.com before, I think that all this outrage over minstrel depictions of blacks ignore the fact that there were also many minstrel depictions of whites. The most popular of these was the Three Stooges, which were originally called Ted Healy and His Southern Gentlemen.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Gene Su


    I don’t have a lot of love for Doctor Seuss. He was a writer of horrid children’s books that did not improve the reading ability of our young by one writ.
     
    As a boy I avoided anything my female elementary school teachers and librarians encouraged us to read and Doctor Seuss was on the list. I always admired the American opponents of entering World War II and when I found out he had smeared anyone who was against us going into that war, my instinctive childhood dislike of him was confirmed. I always was reading things my teachers were indifferent to me reading like comic books, Mad magazine, Heinlein juvenile novels, Doc Savage novels, Tarzan books and so on.

    Replies: @Alden

  130. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "The Cat In The Hat" that I bought yesterday has already doubled in value and it hasn't even been "discontinued" yet.

    I wonder what these will sell for...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-If-I-ran-a-zoo-Mulberry-street-McElligots-pool-the-cats-Quizzer/294044374835

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-The-Cat-s-Quizzer-Are-You-Smarter-Than-the-Cat-1976/274705879676

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-seuss-Lot-4-The-Cats-Quizzer-8x11/224373571158

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-6-Out-Of-Print-Dr-Seuss-Books-banned-Books/324505421640

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Charlotte

    BTW! EBay has prohibited the sale of all of the Dr. Seuss books in question.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/4/ebay-to-block-auctions-for-canceled-dr-seuss-books/

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @HammerJack

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-seuss-Lot-4-The-Cats-Quizzer-8%C3%9711/224373571158

  131. @Anon7
    @Morton's toes

    Here's how little children learn to read now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQM-6NzyIU

    "B is for bi
    You can shout it out loud
    I like boys and girls
    And that makes me proud."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anonymous coward, @TWS

    I see millstones and deep sea in their future.

  132. @hooodathunkit
    17 Instances Of Racism On ONE Page From A Dr. Seuss Book

    ... and don't forget to go to the main Bee page to find out there's 12 More Children's Books That Should Be Canceled due to all sorts of cultural appropriations, supremacist thinking, oppression, and of course a lot of whiteness as well.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @James J O'Meara

    Look, we just need to stop cancelling this or that book, one at a time, and realize that books AS SUCH are oppressive, an invention of huwhite men which, even if not intended to oppress Black bodies (although it probably was) never the less does oppress Black bodies, as its very existence exposes the supposed “inadequacy” of rich, fertile and loamy Black oral culture.

    Why do you think they call it a “press”?

  133. @RichardTaylor
    Dr. Seuss was a preachy liberal who wrote annoying material.

    He preached about the evils of Reagan's military buildup too. I mean, only a Neanderthal would want to oppose communism!

    I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours.

    Replies: @Alden, @Peter D. Bredon

    Dr Seuss wrote the Lorax. It’s against not just logging forest farming etc but even clearing brush because back a million years ago when there were no humans the brush just piled up and became humus then dirt. That is, if lightening or getting damp heating up and setting itself on fire didn’t happen first.

    Results of liberals and the minions of Satan federal judges forbidding brush harvesting clearing and pruning . Electricity outages and deadly forest fires.

    Being a cynic who always follows the money; I believe the Lorax was funded by the plastics industry. So we can all live in plastic module homes and use plastic furniture.

    Back when Sears had some nice things, it had Cat in the Hat wall paper for little boys rooms. I bought it. A big 7 by 3 figure of the cat, green white and paprika red striped wallpaper and bedspreads.

    • Thanks: RichardTaylor
  134. @Anonymous
    OT:

    This is hilarious...

    https://twitter.com/TurtleboyTweets/status/1366284583935836160?s=20

    Replies: @Michelle, @James J O'Meara

    “Ripped butts”? Took me a while to figure that one out. I had rather different image in mind, more like that guy who got fired after that Zoom meeting.

    I guess the Brits would say “ripped fags.”

  135. @RichardTaylor
    Dr. Seuss was a preachy liberal who wrote annoying material.

    He preached about the evils of Reagan's military buildup too. I mean, only a Neanderthal would want to oppose communism!

    I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours.

    Replies: @Alden, @Peter D. Bredon

    “I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours.”

    How appropriate to find this on a thread about Dr. Seuss, since it reflects a child’s understanding of WWII, as filtered through decades of propaganda pushed by Seuss and his other Tribesmen.

    You’ll know you’ve become a grownup, when you understand that the US was tricked into WWII by Brits and Jewish Communists, and we “saved our asses” by saving Stalin’s ass.

    And oh, the places you’ll go then!

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Oh, I was talking about the Cold War actually, not WWII,

    I agree we should have never gotten into WWII. Or WWI for that matter.

  136. @Dumbo

    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    LOL.

    Well, I guess it was a prejudiced and oppressive view of French people... Or at least French skunks.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Peter D. Bredon

    Pepe was offensive because he portrayed the French acting like African-Americans. Noam sayin’?

  137. @Neuday
    @Dumbo


    Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture;
     
    Pepé was aggressively trying to seduce a cat but the cat kept rejecting him . It wasn't rape. The whole joke was that he thought he was seducing one of his own kind but the cat knew miscegenation was wrong.

    Replies: @JMcG, @stillCARealist, @Peter D. Bredon

    But what if Pepe identified as a cat? Like that pal of Nick Fuentes.

  138. @Cloudswrest
    We had Little Black Sambo among the childrens books in our house when I was a kid.

    https://d3525k1ryd2155.cloudfront.net/h/795/440/644440795.0.l.jpg

    Replies: @Alden

    I had a Little Black Sambo book. It was one of the children’s books from paternal grandparents. They must have had at least a thousand which they distributed to the grandchildren.

    I don’t remember the story. But I admired his house so much. It was sort of Hawaiian Tiki. No walls just curtains and dark wicker roof and floor green and purple flower print fabric I thought it was beautiful when I was 3 years old.

  139. @Voltarde
    If anyone in the past who held or voiced an opinion that is now considered offensive to certain races, or LGBT+, is now to be condemned and their work denounced and rejected, that brings up an obvious question. What about the extensive, still standing, basic infrastructure of America, e.g., major buildings, roads, dams, airports, bridges, and electrical power transmission lines?

    From my experience the opinions on race and LGBT+ held by the working class that built most of that infrastructure would be considered outrageous by the woke.

    So why stop at statues, paintings, films, place names, and books? Why aren't the woke following their own rhetoric and demanding that NYC, SF, LA, Seattle, D.C., college campuses, etc., etc. essentially be razed to the ground?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @James J O'Meara

    Because, mon frere, nobody ever axed the opinion of the working class for their opinions. Their job was to dig, not shoot their mouths off.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James J O'Meara

    Oh....give the LGBT some time and that too will change. When it does occur to them, one of them will deign to shoot off THEIR own mouths, a la "Ya know, been a thinkin'. Wonder how homophobic the blue collar workers are. Let's go ask them, let's go find out."

    And then they will find out, just like that.

  140. Does your library have an interlibrary loan service? The NYPL cleared out most of its good books years ago (before Woke, but very much a preamble to it) so most of the time I use their interlibrary service. All you need is the ISBN number, readily available from either Amazon or Worldcat.org.

    The movie is a terrific example of late 60s-1970s movie-making. The photography is stunning, the scenery breathtaking. Dustin Hoffman is good, although I think miscast as Jack Crabbe. Chief Dan George plays himself well. I think it’s worth a view, with the basic caveat that the movie distorted the book.

  141. @Nigerian Nationalist
    @AnotherDad

    It's the year 2200, the last pure Whites are on the reservation. The USA has just had its 5th straight Black president. Unz commenters, 'akshually, dey wud nuh ha bilt eet, if nuh for us'.

    You people use the logic of the Indians as the Whites prepared to overrun them. 'deh wunt ha survived dah winter if nuh for us'.

    So dumb.

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Ed, @Anon, @ic1000, @Johnny Smoggins, @Luzzatto, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Paperback Writer

    Look at the exercise of power as it exists not as you wish it those. Who holds the whip hand now?

    Dude: you shoulda known what these guys would say.

    As for your scenario, I don’t think so. I suspect that the current flight from white is (a) temporary and (b) tremendously exaggerated.

  142. “Racism must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture.”

    White people must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture.

    FIFY

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Pontius
    @Nicholas Stix

    http://clancco.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mongols-MC-Patch-Logo-1490x745.png

    https://d3el53au0d7w62.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/banditos.jpeg

    Someone should really tell these moto-bicycle types they are engaging in grievous cultural appropriation and stereotyping. They seem like reasonable chaps.

  143. @Jack D
    @SimpleSong


    Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian.
     
    Doing something like this requires a deft touch. ("Never go full retard.") You have to make Subaru the car that lesbians drive without making it the car that ONLY lesbians drive. Subaru seems to have threaded the needle but if you go overboard you can easily alienate more people than you attract. Subaru was lucky in that its other core constituencies were SWPL outdoorsy type people who are not anti-gay. Being the official car of lesbians and say evangelicals would be a much trickier thing to pull off.

    It would be interesting to know the party preference of Subaru owners. I remember reading that back in the day Saab owners (and Subaru is the brand that seems to most closely occupy the former Saab niche in the auto ecosystem) voted 96% for McGovern or something like that.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Anonymous

    Yeah, normally I’m skeptical of the value added of things like advertising agencies or brand managers, but whoever managed to get Subaru just the right amount into that niche (no vulgarity intended) deserves a raise. Subaru and Tesla, those two are the best-marketed car brands on the planet.

  144. @Forbes
    @black sea

    Baltimore, famously, only required one day per month attendance for a student to count in the pupil census for state funding. So the politicians, teachers' union, and administrators are all-in on the scheme to defraud the taxpayers on school funding and the incentives for assuring student attendance. It's not merely parents who are ignorant.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    The crooked politicians throw undiminished sums of money at the schools (their teachers union friends) even when no kids show up; continuation of pre-COVID per-student funding levels, despite huge numbers of excused absences (approaching 100% no-show), with the schools then being allowed to keep the money, proves beyond any reasonable doubt what that spending is for.

    Compulsory attendance (i.e. the draft) is just a convenient pretext that the tax (patronage) dollars are for the kids.

  145. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:

    When eggs and ham are outlawed, only outlaws will like eggs and ham

  146. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "The Cat In The Hat" that I bought yesterday has already doubled in value and it hasn't even been "discontinued" yet.

    I wonder what these will sell for...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-If-I-ran-a-zoo-Mulberry-street-McElligots-pool-the-cats-Quizzer/294044374835

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Seuss-The-Cat-s-Quizzer-Are-You-Smarter-Than-the-Cat-1976/274705879676

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-seuss-Lot-4-The-Cats-Quizzer-8x11/224373571158

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-6-Out-Of-Print-Dr-Seuss-Books-banned-Books/324505421640

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Charlotte

    Ebay has cancelled the listings because the books “glorify violence,” according to the Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  147. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @SimpleSong


    Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian.
     
    Doing something like this requires a deft touch. ("Never go full retard.") You have to make Subaru the car that lesbians drive without making it the car that ONLY lesbians drive. Subaru seems to have threaded the needle but if you go overboard you can easily alienate more people than you attract. Subaru was lucky in that its other core constituencies were SWPL outdoorsy type people who are not anti-gay. Being the official car of lesbians and say evangelicals would be a much trickier thing to pull off.

    It would be interesting to know the party preference of Subaru owners. I remember reading that back in the day Saab owners (and Subaru is the brand that seems to most closely occupy the former Saab niche in the auto ecosystem) voted 96% for McGovern or something like that.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Anonymous

    Good point about positional goods. I think Subaru can rest easy with lesbian fans out of the latter’s impotence in political math but potential brand loyalty if you give them crumbs. So, it doesn’t pay to shoo them away from one’s automotive or jeans or summer hotel brand, it can really only backfire. Exclusive girls’ boarding schools is another kettle of fish, those only exist for increasing daughters’ hetero SMV.

    The hostile takeover of the WNBA into lesbian-brandland was bad business because sports -> popularity -> sex and thus irks a demographic with bigger clout, i.e. rich dads and the daughters they are hazing (and who want to be hazed) for lineage purposes. If you’ve only got 2 small alternative customer bases for your product, don’t cater to the cheapskate one that doesn’t even really like your product…

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anonymous

    "Exclusive girls’ boarding schools is another kettle of fish, those only exist for increasing daughters’ hetero SMV."

    Are girl boarding schools even a real thing as they used to be? People forget that before she made her porn video and had a reality show, Paris Hilton came from the same lineage as the blue bloods. Even now, they would have to still invite her to their exclusive parties. Other names, the "Blue Blooded Madam" who's lineage extended back to the Mayflower, ran a whore house in DC back in the day. In other words, in 2021 land especially, the lines of the traditional blue blood and top 1%, and the Old Money family lines have become blurred. Not even they follow the ancient rules anymore. So long as the check clears (actually a whole lot of checks for a whole lot), then it's all good.

    If a girl from an elite family truly wants to increase her SMV, she can become an influencer on Instagram. And consider starting an Onlyfans account.

    Would suppose a true scandal among the Blue Bloods would be if one of their highly noted offspring were to convert and become a practicing pro life Born Again Christian and decided to live in say, Indiana or some middle of nowhere place like that.

    Shocking! Absolutely shocking!

  148. @Paperback Writer

    And of course, I watched westerns that regularly depicted Native Americans as aggressive, bloodthirsty savages against whom valiant white men were forced to fight.

     

    I don't know what world Charles Blow grew up in, but in my world, the Indians were always more popular than the cowboys and since Broken Arrow (1953?) they were always portrayed sympathetically.

    This reached a peak in 1970 when Arthur Penn and Calder Willingham combined to caricature the great, forgotten Thomas Berger's wonderful novel Little Big Man. Made in the midst of Vietnam, Little Big Man took the Indian POV 100%.

    That was not in the book -- it satirized Injuns as much as white men, although it did show sympathy for them and nostalgia over the loss of their way of life. For sheer page-turning readability combined with skill, you can't beat this book.

    Calder Willingham's novels are out of print and he is also forgotten, with more justification than Berger, who oughta be part of the Canon, but he should still be in print. He's 1000x better than any of the current hacks. But he's paying a price in the afterlife for what he did to Berger.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @James J O'Meara

    Gone but not forgotten:

    “The Nightboy Cometh: Reflections — In a Jaundiced Eye — on Calder Willingham’s End as a Man & Jack Garfein’s The Strange One”

    https://counter-currents.com/2015/11/the-nightboy-cometh/

    Willingham’s End as a Man was turned into an even more bizarre “method actor” film, starring Ben Gazarra. Well worth a view; Gazarra’s “Oscar Wilde in military school” performance is mind melting.

    Wikipedia sez: During the late ’40s and early ’50s, Willingham was considered at the forefront of the gritty, realistic new breed of postwar novelists: Norman Mailer, James Jones, Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, and others, many of whom also made up the Greenwich Village literary scene at the time. While in 1969 Newsweek said his fiction “deserves a place among the dozen or so novels that must be mentioned if one is to speak of greatness in American fiction.”

    Not so great as to deserve their own Wikipedia entries, however, including his first novel, End as a Man. The main CW entry does give some idea of what the fuss was about: after dropping out of The Citadel, he moves to New York, where

    “Willingham’s career began in controversy with End as a Man (1947), a withering indictment of the macho culture of military academies, introducing his first iconic character, sadistic Jocko de Paris. The story included graphic hazing, sex, and suggested homosexuality, which in a period celebrating military victory, led the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to file obscenity charges against its publisher, Vanguard Press. The charges were ultimately dropped, but not before a trial which made the book a cause célèbre, famous writers rallying to its defense. Reviews singled out its savage humor and realistic dialogue.”

    Fun Fact: Vanguard Press was a commie outfit, which “issued an array of books on radical topics, including studies of the Soviet Union, socialist theory, and politically oriented fiction by a range of writers [including] the first books of Nelson Algren, Saul Bellow, Marshall McLuhan, Joyce Carol Oates and Dr. Seuss.

    Another fun fact: he wrote a draft of iSteve fave The Graduate which was eventually rewritten by Buck Henry; but much to Henry’s annoyance, he got the screenwriters’ guild to demand he get co-writing credit on screen.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @James J O'Meara

    Literary fame is fleeting.

    Who, today, has even heard of Aubrey Goodman?

  149. @RichardTaylor
    I'm not religious, but this guy gets it with regard to conservatives always defending the very people and institutions who hate them. Just like you guys are defending the liberal Dr. Seuss who openly pushed leftist talking points in his cartoons aimed at helpless children.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/once-more-into-the-breach/id1530654244?i=1000511486859

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist

    That’s Aaron Renn’s podcast, isn’t it? He’s got an unfortunate voice, but if you can get past that, his content and insights are very good.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  150. @James J O'Meara
    @Voltarde

    Because, mon frere, nobody ever axed the opinion of the working class for their opinions. Their job was to dig, not shoot their mouths off.

    https://youtu.be/s2w9X_tHU7k

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Oh….give the LGBT some time and that too will change. When it does occur to them, one of them will deign to shoot off THEIR own mouths, a la “Ya know, been a thinkin’. Wonder how homophobic the blue collar workers are. Let’s go ask them, let’s go find out.”

    And then they will find out, just like that.

  151. Charles Blow is the friendly voice whispering encouragement into the ear of every black spree killer Paul Kersey, Colin Flaherty and/or Kenn Gividen has since documented. Or at least, he sure hopes so.

  152. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Good point about positional goods. I think Subaru can rest easy with lesbian fans out of the latter's impotence in political math but potential brand loyalty if you give them crumbs. So, it doesn't pay to shoo them away from one's automotive or jeans or summer hotel brand, it can really only backfire. Exclusive girls' boarding schools is another kettle of fish, those only exist for increasing daughters' hetero SMV.

    The hostile takeover of the WNBA into lesbian-brandland was bad business because sports -> popularity -> sex and thus irks a demographic with bigger clout, i.e. rich dads and the daughters they are hazing (and who want to be hazed) for lineage purposes. If you've only got 2 small alternative customer bases for your product, don't cater to the cheapskate one that doesn't even really like your product...

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Exclusive girls’ boarding schools is another kettle of fish, those only exist for increasing daughters’ hetero SMV.”

    Are girl boarding schools even a real thing as they used to be? People forget that before she made her porn video and had a reality show, Paris Hilton came from the same lineage as the blue bloods. Even now, they would have to still invite her to their exclusive parties. Other names, the “Blue Blooded Madam” who’s lineage extended back to the Mayflower, ran a whore house in DC back in the day. In other words, in 2021 land especially, the lines of the traditional blue blood and top 1%, and the Old Money family lines have become blurred. Not even they follow the ancient rules anymore. So long as the check clears (actually a whole lot of checks for a whole lot), then it’s all good.

    If a girl from an elite family truly wants to increase her SMV, she can become an influencer on Instagram. And consider starting an Onlyfans account.

    Would suppose a true scandal among the Blue Bloods would be if one of their highly noted offspring were to convert and become a practicing pro life Born Again Christian and decided to live in say, Indiana or some middle of nowhere place like that.

    Shocking! Absolutely shocking!

  153. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Michelle

    "She reminds me"

    of my friend's wife. She's a teacher in the local school district -- junior high in a school that has a large percentage of black kids. I suggested to my friend that his wife and her fellow white teachers are resistant to return to in-class learning because the black kids are mostly troublesome and sometimes dangerous. Public schools with a lot of black kids are dysfunctional. Always have been; always will be.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Michelle

    Yeah, I think this is the main reason Chicago Public School teachers won’t go back to classroom teaching. The panic porn lockdowns must be a godsend for urban public school teachers everywhere.

  154. @CCZ
    @kaganovitch

    Mark Twain Branch of the Detroit Public Library has some books for the taking!!

    https://i.redd.it/xy8yo4de4q521.jpg

    https://wrotetrips.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/vintagemark10.jpg

    http://www.detroiturbex.com/content/parksandrec/twain/index.html

    Replies: @additionalMike, @kaganovitch

    It brings tears to ones eyes. Barbarians.

  155. @James J O'Meara
    @Paperback Writer

    Gone but not forgotten:

    "The Nightboy Cometh: Reflections — In a Jaundiced Eye — on Calder Willingham’s End as a Man & Jack Garfein’s The Strange One"

    https://counter-currents.com/2015/11/the-nightboy-cometh/

    Willingham's End as a Man was turned into an even more bizarre "method actor" film, starring Ben Gazarra. Well worth a view; Gazarra's "Oscar Wilde in military school" performance is mind melting.

    Wikipedia sez: During the late ’40s and early ’50s, Willingham was considered at the forefront of the gritty, realistic new breed of postwar novelists: Norman Mailer, James Jones, Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, and others, many of whom also made up the Greenwich Village literary scene at the time. While in 1969 Newsweek said his fiction “deserves a place among the dozen or so novels that must be mentioned if one is to speak of greatness in American fiction.”

    Not so great as to deserve their own Wikipedia entries, however, including his first novel, End as a Man. The main CW entry does give some idea of what the fuss was about: after dropping out of The Citadel, he moves to New York, where

    "Willingham’s career began in controversy with End as a Man (1947), a withering indictment of the macho culture of military academies, introducing his first iconic character, sadistic Jocko de Paris. The story included graphic hazing, sex, and suggested homosexuality, which in a period celebrating military victory, led the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to file obscenity charges against its publisher, Vanguard Press. The charges were ultimately dropped, but not before a trial which made the book a cause célèbre, famous writers rallying to its defense. Reviews singled out its savage humor and realistic dialogue."

    Fun Fact: Vanguard Press was a commie outfit, which "issued an array of books on radical topics, including studies of the Soviet Union, socialist theory, and politically oriented fiction by a range of writers [including] the first books of Nelson Algren, Saul Bellow, Marshall McLuhan, Joyce Carol Oates and Dr. Seuss.

    Another fun fact: he wrote a draft of iSteve fave The Graduate which was eventually rewritten by Buck Henry; but much to Henry's annoyance, he got the screenwriters' guild to demand he get co-writing credit on screen.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Literary fame is fleeting.

    Who, today, has even heard of Aubrey Goodman?

  156. “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
    Nothing is going to get better. It’s not.”—The Lorax

    A quote for Charles Blow and those who live in the Current Year and follow the Narrative as closely as they can.

  157. @Aspiring Rapper and Honor Student
    The author is way off the mark with his criticism of Our Gang/Little Rascals.

    I've watched a few of these shows recently, since they've popped up on Youtube. Although the black kids are a minority, just one or two of the characters, they are presented with respect and are clearly on equal footing with the white kids.

    If anything, Our Gang/Little Rascals could be accused of promoting integration during Jim Crow times, rather than of placing the black kids in an inferior rank.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    “Although the black kids are a minority, just one or two of the characters, they are presented with respect and are clearly on equal footing with the white kids.”

    Uh-uh, not good enough. The Black characters must be portrayed as hyper-intelligent and natural leaders of the gang, as they would be in real life (see: any Denzel Washington movie). This kind of racist stereotyping is what has been oppressing Black bodies for decades.

  158. @SimpleSong
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Possibly...it will be interesting to see how it plays out long term. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for Evangelicals to adopt something that is completely alien to their core values out of some misplaced sense of solidarity. (Let's see, can I think of any examples...?)

    On the other hand, kids books (and movie deals based on kids books, merchandise, etc.) seem like one of those things that do best when they're seen as universally loved and not the least bit controversial. I would guess that the Star Wars franchise, for example, has underperformed relative to what it could have done if it had stayed clear of culture war territory. Not that it doesn't make plenty of money, but I can't imagine Disney is 100% happy with how it has performed relative to expectations.

    Some things, sure, you do well inflaming culture war stuff. Subaru has done well by becoming the official car of the lesbian. Things like cars, where spend a lot of money but only get to buy one, it's a good way to stand out, it's better to be the first choice of a subgroup rather than the second choice of a larger group. On the other hand if you are relying on large numbers of people to make a small purchase, and they generally purchase multiple items, I'm not so sure it's a good strategy. Personally if I want to buy my grandsons/granddaughters some small gift the last thing I want is to create unnecessary drama with one of my daughters in law, or have this be seen as a political act.

    Replies: @Jack D, @James J O'Meara

    The Porsche Boxster is a chick car.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James J O'Meara

    So is a Rolls Royce.

  159. @James J O'Meara
    @SimpleSong

    The Porsche Boxster is a chick car.

    https://youtu.be/BDvPeBGFVZw

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    So is a Rolls Royce.

  160. @SimpleSong
    Aside from the other issues touched on in the rest of the thread, this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate's part. They're really damaging their business.

    By highlighting some un-PC things that Geisel wrote/drew they're poisoning the brand for liberals. Liberal parents or grandparents are not going to say, "oh, well, I'm so glad they got rid of his racist stuff, now I think I'll go buy Cat in the Hat." They'll see him as tainted and just move on to other children's authors. Previously they hadn't even thought about it, or been aware of it, but now everybody has it in the back of their mind.

    Conservatives are not going to want to buy these books after this kerfluffle as they'll see them as bowdlerized versions, and/or they may not want to support the estate after they make a move like this. (Dr. Seuss probably appealed less to conservative parents to begin with.)

    So they manage to alienate both sides with this move.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @SunBakedSuburb, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Seuss books are dominating Amazon’s best sellers lists right now.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    True, true. I'm thinking more long term, though, these books managed to stay around for 70+ years, will they manage to stay around for another 70 years? In addition to widespread circulation of the books, in the last ~20 years they've had at least four (I think) movie deals for feature-length films--Lorax, Cat in the Hat, Grinch, Horton. Well managed media properties can be cash cows for well over a hundred years, given the way copyright has been extended again and again.

    What happens in the next months or even year is just a blip on its overall trajectory, and I don't think this was a good decision for the long term future of the franchise. I certainly don't see them getting a feature film every five years after this, given the general risk-averse nature of Hollywood. Regarding the books, I think after an initial burst of excitement and sales you will start to see a slow slide into obscurity over the span of about 5-10 years. Librarians, elementary school teachers, SWPL moms, they will think 'ooohhh, Dr. Seuss, problematic...maybe let's pick something else for storytime', a generation will grow up without the books, and once that generational chain is broken, forget it: the franchise is done. People buy kids books because they remember them from their childhood, not because of their intrinsic quality.

    The smart play would have been to quietly discontinue the potentially controversial books, and if it came up claim it was due to low sales, and just try to lay low for as long as possible and keep getting the books in the hands of the people who read to the next generation, and hope to make it out to the other side when people have more mature attitudes about this stuff. Or at least survive until the copyrights expire and it doesn't have any value anyway. A few good or bad days on Amazon is peanuts in the big picture.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @The Last Real Calvinist

  161. @HammerJack
    @Adam Smith

    BTW! EBay has prohibited the sale of all of the Dr. Seuss books in question.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/4/ebay-to-block-auctions-for-canceled-dr-seuss-books/

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  162. @Gene Su
    I don't have a lot of love for Doctor Seuss. He was a writer of horrid children's books that did not improve the reading ability of our young by one writ. He wrote non-sensical stories about situations that could never occur in real life. Sesame Street and McGuffey readers were far better.

    Having said all this, I thought that this paragraph by the obviously ignoramus author was totally out of line.


    Some of the first cartoons I can remember included Pepé Le Pew, who normalized rape culture; Speedy Gonzales, whose friends helped popularize the corrosive stereotype of the drunk and lethargic Mexicans; and Mammy Two Shoes, a heavyset Black maid who spoke in a heavy accent.
     
    Warner Bros had a lot of nasty stereotypes of blacks and Hispanics at the beginning of the 20th Century. Bugs Bunny was the African trickster rabbit who became the Urban Negro hustler. The Tasmanian Devil was an African savage. Speedy Gonzalez poked fun at Mexicans.
    But most of the other funny animals in Warner Bros's cast were not-too-flattering minstrel depictions of working class whites. Yosemite Sam was a trigger-happy cowboy who once played a Confederate Officer. Elmer Fudd was a middle-class "nerd" and an "egghead" who was obsessed with hunting that "wascawwy wabbit" to prove his manhood. Porky Pig was a "Little Lord Fauntleroy", an overdressed Yankee wimp with a frightened stutter. Foghorn Leghorn was based on a Southern Senator. Perhaps the biggest wild card was Daffy Duck. I still can't figure out who he represents.

    As I said on unz.com before, I think that all this outrage over minstrel depictions of blacks ignore the fact that there were also many minstrel depictions of whites. The most popular of these was the Three Stooges, which were originally called Ted Healy and His Southern Gentlemen.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    I don’t have a lot of love for Doctor Seuss. He was a writer of horrid children’s books that did not improve the reading ability of our young by one writ.

    As a boy I avoided anything my female elementary school teachers and librarians encouraged us to read and Doctor Seuss was on the list. I always admired the American opponents of entering World War II and when I found out he had smeared anyone who was against us going into that war, my instinctive childhood dislike of him was confirmed. I always was reading things my teachers were indifferent to me reading like comic books, Mad magazine, Heinlein juvenile novels, Doc Savage novels, Tarzan books and so on.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mark G.

    I found some Tarzan books somewhere on the shelves. There was a children’s history series. Lewis’s and Clark expedition, Kit Carson Daniel Boone, and many others.

    Did anyone read Johnny Tremaine and Rebecca’s War? Intrepid 11 year olds in the revolution. Johnny was an apprentice of Paul Revere’s. He ran many errands to the Green Dragon where the revolution was plotted. Rebecca’s father arranged for the gold the French “ lent” us for our first gold reserves to be hidden in a stair case in their family home. Later I discovered America never paid France back all that money.

  163. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @SimpleSong

    Seuss books are dominating Amazon's best sellers lists right now.

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    True, true. I’m thinking more long term, though, these books managed to stay around for 70+ years, will they manage to stay around for another 70 years? In addition to widespread circulation of the books, in the last ~20 years they’ve had at least four (I think) movie deals for feature-length films–Lorax, Cat in the Hat, Grinch, Horton. Well managed media properties can be cash cows for well over a hundred years, given the way copyright has been extended again and again.

    What happens in the next months or even year is just a blip on its overall trajectory, and I don’t think this was a good decision for the long term future of the franchise. I certainly don’t see them getting a feature film every five years after this, given the general risk-averse nature of Hollywood. Regarding the books, I think after an initial burst of excitement and sales you will start to see a slow slide into obscurity over the span of about 5-10 years. Librarians, elementary school teachers, SWPL moms, they will think ‘ooohhh, Dr. Seuss, problematic…maybe let’s pick something else for storytime’, a generation will grow up without the books, and once that generational chain is broken, forget it: the franchise is done. People buy kids books because they remember them from their childhood, not because of their intrinsic quality.

    The smart play would have been to quietly discontinue the potentially controversial books, and if it came up claim it was due to low sales, and just try to lay low for as long as possible and keep getting the books in the hands of the people who read to the next generation, and hope to make it out to the other side when people have more mature attitudes about this stuff. Or at least survive until the copyrights expire and it doesn’t have any value anyway. A few good or bad days on Amazon is peanuts in the big picture.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @SimpleSong

    I checked, Geisel died in 1991 so if copyright lasts 70 years after the author's death, that means they've got 40 more years to milk this. Still enough time that you want to think long term. If they only had five or so years left, I'd say, yeah, try to spike sales at the end by ginning up some controversy. But I don't think it makes sense now.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @SimpleSong

    Thanks for this; you make some excellent points.

    I think it's likely you're right about the librarians, who are infamously woke these days.

  164. @SimpleSong
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    True, true. I'm thinking more long term, though, these books managed to stay around for 70+ years, will they manage to stay around for another 70 years? In addition to widespread circulation of the books, in the last ~20 years they've had at least four (I think) movie deals for feature-length films--Lorax, Cat in the Hat, Grinch, Horton. Well managed media properties can be cash cows for well over a hundred years, given the way copyright has been extended again and again.

    What happens in the next months or even year is just a blip on its overall trajectory, and I don't think this was a good decision for the long term future of the franchise. I certainly don't see them getting a feature film every five years after this, given the general risk-averse nature of Hollywood. Regarding the books, I think after an initial burst of excitement and sales you will start to see a slow slide into obscurity over the span of about 5-10 years. Librarians, elementary school teachers, SWPL moms, they will think 'ooohhh, Dr. Seuss, problematic...maybe let's pick something else for storytime', a generation will grow up without the books, and once that generational chain is broken, forget it: the franchise is done. People buy kids books because they remember them from their childhood, not because of their intrinsic quality.

    The smart play would have been to quietly discontinue the potentially controversial books, and if it came up claim it was due to low sales, and just try to lay low for as long as possible and keep getting the books in the hands of the people who read to the next generation, and hope to make it out to the other side when people have more mature attitudes about this stuff. Or at least survive until the copyrights expire and it doesn't have any value anyway. A few good or bad days on Amazon is peanuts in the big picture.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @The Last Real Calvinist

    I checked, Geisel died in 1991 so if copyright lasts 70 years after the author’s death, that means they’ve got 40 more years to milk this. Still enough time that you want to think long term. If they only had five or so years left, I’d say, yeah, try to spike sales at the end by ginning up some controversy. But I don’t think it makes sense now.

  165. @Dr. Doom
    Let them ban Theodore Geisel. He's not one of us.
    It shows that the blacks and wokes are not very smart.

    Banning these books will have the opposite effect they expect.
    It will simply inculcate the Anti-White bias while in fact banning a Jew.

    Jews are White to those that batter. What do those black lives matter?
    Let them fight it out. We will be the better for it.

    I'll say it again and again. LET THEM FIGHT!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    As a child Geisel was on the receiving end of the anti-German prejudice that was revved up as part pro-war propaganda related to World War I. Well, that was over a century ago. None of that matters anymore.

    Today, in the much more tolerant Current Week, EBay is cancelling accounts and banning people who attempt to sell one of the Six Banned Books of Ted Geisel.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

    Good thing that as a nation, the US is now far beyond anti-someone-something prejudice. Not like 110 years ago, nope.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Steve Sailer

    Or its strong among people in the know. They also tend to be accurate in their observational noticing.

    Not just any Germanic surname. It's usually ones that don't fit the stereotypical mold. When visiting Augsburg in the late '90's I stayed with a host family. They were interested in my university classes, teachers, etc. I mentioned one class with the professor's name, "Mettenheim" and mentioned, "he must be German".

    In their barely intelligible English, they said "Oh no, that's not a German name. He's Jewish." I later checked and it proved to be factual. And the family had a mixed race kid. In Augsburg.

    So, how would a German family in Augsburg know that my university professor was not German but Jewish? And, it would be difficult to automatically stick the anti-semitic label on them, especially since Germany by that time had undergone decades of persuasion to not evince too much in the way of "pro-German" feelings, etc. So, how would they know in Germany that a German sounding surname to outsiders, was not really German but Jewish?

    A few yrs ago, I made mention to a family that I knew 100% was Jewish, about a certain family and ended with "His name's Schmidt. Guess he's Jewish, huh?" The family shook their head. "Nope. He's not. He's probably German."

    How would this American Jewish family know that? Obviously they weren't anti-semitic.

    Those in the know, tend to know what they know emphatically.

    , @Dissident
    @Steve Sailer


    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish.
     
    Remember Timothy Geithner? I'd bet there are still more than a few people who think (or even insist) that he was "a member of The Tribe".

    Returning to Dr. Seuss, do his detractors give him any credit at least for The Grinch Who Stole Christmas?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Steve Sailer

    Anti-Semites are the real racists!

    Actually, likely an ironic holdover from all the anti-German propaganda for WWI and WWII. You'll notice all those Poles, Russians etc. with their unreadable names get a free pass. (Is the lack of vowels due to Jewish influence?)

    Question: did steerage class Jews with unpronounceable names gravitate to Germanic names in their new homeland? Grjuenewiczie to Grunwald to (after enough time) Green?

    Or was it like in The Godfather II, where young Vito gets dubbed "Corleone" because that's his village back home and the clerk can't be bothered to be accurate? Young Oiving Berlusoiogsjosfs becomes "Irving Berlin"

  166. anon[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. Doom

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    Replies: @anon, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Dissident, @James J O'Meara

    As a child Geisel was on the receiving end of the anti-German prejudice that was revved up as part pro-war propaganda related to World War I. Well, that was over a century ago. None of that matters anymore.

    Today, in the much more tolerant Current Week, EBay is cancelling accounts and banning people who attempt to sell one of the Six Banned Books of Ted Geisel.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

    Good thing that as a nation, the US is now far beyond anti-someone-something prejudice. Not like 110 years ago, nope.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @anon

    Amazon to follow suit tout de suite

  167. @JimDandy
    @DextersLabRat

    I hear they are already selling for astronomical prices on EBay.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Kolya Krassotkin

    I see a huge market for bootlegged copies of Seuss’s work.

    (The chinese and Russians are observing us and think we’re insane; and they’re right.)

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Then EBay went and banned Seuss books.

  168. @SimpleSong
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    True, true. I'm thinking more long term, though, these books managed to stay around for 70+ years, will they manage to stay around for another 70 years? In addition to widespread circulation of the books, in the last ~20 years they've had at least four (I think) movie deals for feature-length films--Lorax, Cat in the Hat, Grinch, Horton. Well managed media properties can be cash cows for well over a hundred years, given the way copyright has been extended again and again.

    What happens in the next months or even year is just a blip on its overall trajectory, and I don't think this was a good decision for the long term future of the franchise. I certainly don't see them getting a feature film every five years after this, given the general risk-averse nature of Hollywood. Regarding the books, I think after an initial burst of excitement and sales you will start to see a slow slide into obscurity over the span of about 5-10 years. Librarians, elementary school teachers, SWPL moms, they will think 'ooohhh, Dr. Seuss, problematic...maybe let's pick something else for storytime', a generation will grow up without the books, and once that generational chain is broken, forget it: the franchise is done. People buy kids books because they remember them from their childhood, not because of their intrinsic quality.

    The smart play would have been to quietly discontinue the potentially controversial books, and if it came up claim it was due to low sales, and just try to lay low for as long as possible and keep getting the books in the hands of the people who read to the next generation, and hope to make it out to the other side when people have more mature attitudes about this stuff. Or at least survive until the copyrights expire and it doesn't have any value anyway. A few good or bad days on Amazon is peanuts in the big picture.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Thanks for this; you make some excellent points.

    I think it’s likely you’re right about the librarians, who are infamously woke these days.

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  169. Green eggs and ham. Maybe that was a thing back then. We had a friend of the family, a crazy old bachelor who was passed down through the family as he slowly outgrew his welcome. One day he was telling us how he found a leg of ham at the local dump, but after cutting off the green bits there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Brings a new meaning to what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
    A rope as a belt, a singlet as brown as mud with more holes in it than cloth. He never smoked, he never drank, he never gambled and he never married. After he died, strangers came to the house asking if mum would contest the will.
    I reckon when that old bugger died he probably left millions. Strangely, I always think of him whenever green eggs and ham are mentioned.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Jiminy

    Francis of Assisi?

  170. @Alden
    @anonymous

    Charles Blow’s gay, isn’t he? He should love muscle man Tarzan in nothing but his leopard skin little skirt. Blow probably fantasied about Tarzan rescuing him and taking Blow home to his treehouse. Tarzan was my favorite comic book. Every week, I’d buy a Tarzan comic book and a book of paper dolls. I liked the stories, the other characters and the exotic locale.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    The part about buying the book of paper dolls didn’t make sense. But then I remembered you were a girl.

    (We boys liked Tarzan, also. But paper dolls, not so much.)

    Cheers.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Alden is both male and female and the two alter-egos interplay.

    Replies: @anon

  171. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. Doom

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    Replies: @anon, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Dissident, @James J O'Meara

    Or its strong among people in the know. They also tend to be accurate in their observational noticing.

    Not just any Germanic surname. It’s usually ones that don’t fit the stereotypical mold. When visiting Augsburg in the late ’90’s I stayed with a host family. They were interested in my university classes, teachers, etc. I mentioned one class with the professor’s name, “Mettenheim” and mentioned, “he must be German”.

    In their barely intelligible English, they said “Oh no, that’s not a German name. He’s Jewish.” I later checked and it proved to be factual. And the family had a mixed race kid. In Augsburg.

    So, how would a German family in Augsburg know that my university professor was not German but Jewish? And, it would be difficult to automatically stick the anti-semitic label on them, especially since Germany by that time had undergone decades of persuasion to not evince too much in the way of “pro-German” feelings, etc. So, how would they know in Germany that a German sounding surname to outsiders, was not really German but Jewish?

    A few yrs ago, I made mention to a family that I knew 100% was Jewish, about a certain family and ended with “His name’s Schmidt. Guess he’s Jewish, huh?” The family shook their head. “Nope. He’s not. He’s probably German.”

    How would this American Jewish family know that? Obviously they weren’t anti-semitic.

    Those in the know, tend to know what they know emphatically.

  172. Racism must be exorcised from culture…

    Anti-Whiteness, our new faith, complete with exorcisms.

  173. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Ed

    Of course blacks will dominate. They are the future because of their cognitive abilities, industriousness, cultural production, science & technology orientation & talents, international appeal & influence, organizational skills ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles St. Charles

    Grotesque.

  174. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Ed

    Of course blacks will dominate. They are the future because of their cognitive abilities, industriousness, cultural production, science & technology orientation & talents, international appeal & influence, organizational skills ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Charles St. Charles

    What the…!?

  175. “As a child, I was led to believe that Blackness was inferior. And I was not alone. The Black society into which I was born was riddled with these beliefs.”

    How the heck did people come to believe that black (African) culture was inferior?Trips to Africa? Strolls down the ‘hood? I mean, there’s no actual evidence that Whites have ever produced anything of value, except perhaps for nearly 3 millenia of civilization.

  176. Rob says:

    I have not read any of the comments to this post, so I apologize if this issue has been raised. A commenteron NYT, maybe more than one, I did not read that far there before the urge to poast was overwhelming, anyway, to paraphrase nyt commenter, the feds are not censoring the Seuss works, the publisher is, and they are not the government (nor are they trying to have the copies owned by libraries or private citizens repossessed.

    I question this ‘not the government censoring the works’ talking point. My understanding is that a copyright is a federally granted ‘right’ to be the exclusive purveyor of works to which it owns the copyrights*.

    Is this true though? It seems that this is not even censorship at one remove, A patent is the mere right to civil remedies. It grants the right to exclude from practice, but the patent owner or licensee has to sue. But copyright is different. Copyright has the force of federal felonies behind it. They can put you in prison for violating cooyright, it is at the beginning of every movie I have seen, pirated or not. Given that the feds can enforce cooyrights without even the permission, much less request of the rights-holder, and I cannot disseminate said copyrighted works, it seems to me that the government is engaging in censorship.

    Is my legal reasoning unsound. I am not by any stretch a lawyer. Could some law firm make a pro Bono (no iPad, I mean ‘for the good ‘ (or somesuch in Latin, not Bono, the frontman of Irish rock legends U2) case out of this?

    Dr Cæsar, help me out here. Are these actually the copies right?

  177. @Peter D. Bredon
    @RichardTaylor

    "I wish these Eastern Seaboard people, along with most of Europe, could have gotten what they deserved at the hands of the Soviets. Sadly, their creepy asses had to be saved to save ours."

    How appropriate to find this on a thread about Dr. Seuss, since it reflects a child's understanding of WWII, as filtered through decades of propaganda pushed by Seuss and his other Tribesmen.

    You'll know you've become a grownup, when you understand that the US was tricked into WWII by Brits and Jewish Communists, and we "saved our asses" by saving Stalin's ass.

    And oh, the places you'll go then!

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Oh, I was talking about the Cold War actually, not WWII,

    I agree we should have never gotten into WWII. Or WWI for that matter.

  178. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. Doom

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    Replies: @anon, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Dissident, @James J O'Meara

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish.

    Remember Timothy Geithner? I’d bet there are still more than a few people who think (or even insist) that he was “a member of The Tribe”.

    Returning to Dr. Seuss, do his detractors give him any credit at least for The Grinch Who Stole Christmas?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Dissident

    With the Grinch being green, it could be stated that that’s an early example of making fun of the Green Movement and thus Seuss was a climate denier.

    Also more to the point, the “Who’s” down in “Whoville”, that sounds very much like a racial slur. Referring to a group of people as “Who”, because they’re slow, simple, and addle headed, that’s borderline systemic racism right there. Also, The Who’s are white—as if to imply that whatever nobly enlightened peoples there are are white at the expense of black folks. The place they live, Whoville, isn’t a great name either, sounds like a mockery of “Who Dey”, which is urban/ghetto slang. So there’s cultural appropriation going on right there.

  179. @Known Fact
    Any moderately talented artist/writer team, black or otherwise, has had 60 years now to knock off a highly profitable Seuss-like series of books aimed at tots of color and their literacy-minded parents. But there seems to be a demand problem as well as supply

    Replies: @Charles St. Charles

    Blacks don’t read.™️

  180. Funny thing is that the publishers of Tintin discontinued “Tintin in the Congo” years ago, and there wasn’t this kind of outcry. The other Tintin books continue to sell just fine. Nothing particularly new going on here, other than a social media culture that thrives on fake outrage.

  181. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. Doom

    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish. Oddly, this prejudice is strongest among anti-Semites.

    Replies: @anon, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Dissident, @James J O'Meara

    Anti-Semites are the real racists!

    Actually, likely an ironic holdover from all the anti-German propaganda for WWI and WWII. You’ll notice all those Poles, Russians etc. with their unreadable names get a free pass. (Is the lack of vowels due to Jewish influence?)

    Question: did steerage class Jews with unpronounceable names gravitate to Germanic names in their new homeland? Grjuenewiczie to Grunwald to (after enough time) Green?

    Or was it like in The Godfather II, where young Vito gets dubbed “Corleone” because that’s his village back home and the clerk can’t be bothered to be accurate? Young Oiving Berlusoiogsjosfs becomes “Irving Berlin”

  182. @Jiminy
    Green eggs and ham. Maybe that was a thing back then. We had a friend of the family, a crazy old bachelor who was passed down through the family as he slowly outgrew his welcome. One day he was telling us how he found a leg of ham at the local dump, but after cutting off the green bits there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Brings a new meaning to what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
    A rope as a belt, a singlet as brown as mud with more holes in it than cloth. He never smoked, he never drank, he never gambled and he never married. After he died, strangers came to the house asking if mum would contest the will.
    I reckon when that old bugger died he probably left millions. Strangely, I always think of him whenever green eggs and ham are mentioned.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    Francis of Assisi?

  183. @Peter Akuleyev
    @SimpleSong

    this is just a monumentally dumb business decision on the estate’s part

    On the contrary. Consider that this is a brilliant, and possibly cynical, marketing ploy. They stop publishing six fairly obscure, already partially forgotten, titles, claim they are doing it out of "racial sensitivity". That costs them nothing, probably saves them overhead. As a result they start a mass panic that has launched other Dr Seuss titles to top of Amazon's best seller list. So short term - huge revenue bump. Not bad.

    Moreover, if you are thinking long term, SJWs are probably the not the best target group for children's books, since they don't breed that much. If you can convince millions of evangelicals and Mormons, who in the past tended to distrust Seuss as secular, that they should adopt Seuss as one of their own you have just opened up the only real demographic growth market left.

    Someday this will be an HBS case study on how to reposition a brand.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Forbes

    Provocative analysis.

    We’ll see if the tactic of cancelling six books works to strengthen the brand, as you suggest, or results incomplete cancelation of the Dr. Seuss brand. Looks to be a very risky strategy, if it was in fact a calculated move.

  184. At this point, with all these Onion-esque like columns, Charles should really go Blow himself. And to think he makes one long for the days of Jayson Blair, when at least the Affirmative Action hires were legitimate second rate hacks, but not whacked out, or coked up on their own importance.

  185. @Dissident
    @Steve Sailer


    There is a lot of prejudice that any American with a Germanic surname who is creative, such as Theodore Geisel, must be Jewish.
     
    Remember Timothy Geithner? I'd bet there are still more than a few people who think (or even insist) that he was "a member of The Tribe".

    Returning to Dr. Seuss, do his detractors give him any credit at least for The Grinch Who Stole Christmas?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    With the Grinch being green, it could be stated that that’s an early example of making fun of the Green Movement and thus Seuss was a climate denier.

    Also more to the point, the “Who’s” down in “Whoville”, that sounds very much like a racial slur. Referring to a group of people as “Who”, because they’re slow, simple, and addle headed, that’s borderline systemic racism right there. Also, The Who’s are white—as if to imply that whatever nobly enlightened peoples there are are white at the expense of black folks. The place they live, Whoville, isn’t a great name either, sounds like a mockery of “Who Dey”, which is urban/ghetto slang. So there’s cultural appropriation going on right there.

    • LOL: Dissident
  186. I just noticed the cover for what was causing all the uproar and hubbub.

    Go Dog go? OMG! Now that IS racist. How’d that book continually ever get re-published without being cancelled long ago. Maybe it should’ve read Go, Dawg, Go!: nowhatimsayin ? Otherwise it looks like the books title is mocking black people. This is like the drinking game—every time woke people spot systemic racism in society, a person takes a shot of whiskey.

  187. @Mark G.
    @Gene Su


    I don’t have a lot of love for Doctor Seuss. He was a writer of horrid children’s books that did not improve the reading ability of our young by one writ.
     
    As a boy I avoided anything my female elementary school teachers and librarians encouraged us to read and Doctor Seuss was on the list. I always admired the American opponents of entering World War II and when I found out he had smeared anyone who was against us going into that war, my instinctive childhood dislike of him was confirmed. I always was reading things my teachers were indifferent to me reading like comic books, Mad magazine, Heinlein juvenile novels, Doc Savage novels, Tarzan books and so on.

    Replies: @Alden

    I found some Tarzan books somewhere on the shelves. There was a children’s history series. Lewis’s and Clark expedition, Kit Carson Daniel Boone, and many others.

    Did anyone read Johnny Tremaine and Rebecca’s War? Intrepid 11 year olds in the revolution. Johnny was an apprentice of Paul Revere’s. He ran many errands to the Green Dragon where the revolution was plotted. Rebecca’s father arranged for the gold the French “ lent” us for our first gold reserves to be hidden in a stair case in their family home. Later I discovered America never paid France back all that money.

  188. I wonder if the woke at Dartmouth College will latch on to this news about Dr. Seuss’s “racism” and insist that the name of their excellent (and very old) medical school be changed?

    From Wikipedia:

    On April 4, 2012, the Dartmouth Medical School was renamed the Audrey and Theodor Geisel School of Medicine in honor of their many years of generosity to the College.

    https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/

  189. @Nicholas Stix
    "Racism must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture."

    White people must be exorcised from culture, including, or maybe especially, from children’s culture.

    FIFY

    Replies: @Pontius


    Someone should really tell these moto-bicycle types they are engaging in grievous cultural appropriation and stereotyping. They seem like reasonable chaps.

  190. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Alden

    The part about buying the book of paper dolls didn't make sense. But then I remembered you were a girl.

    (We boys liked Tarzan, also. But paper dolls, not so much.)

    Cheers.

    Replies: @Ray P

    Alden is both male and female and the two alter-egos interplay.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ray P

    Alden is both male and female and the two alter-egos interplay.

    Pretty sure blood alcohol content is also a factor.

  191. @Ray P
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Alden is both male and female and the two alter-egos interplay.

    Replies: @anon

    Alden is both male and female and the two alter-egos interplay.

    Pretty sure blood alcohol content is also a factor.

  192. @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    As a child Geisel was on the receiving end of the anti-German prejudice that was revved up as part pro-war propaganda related to World War I. Well, that was over a century ago. None of that matters anymore.

    Today, in the much more tolerant Current Week, EBay is cancelling accounts and banning people who attempt to sell one of the Six Banned Books of Ted Geisel.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9326645/Ebay-BANS-people-reselling-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

    Good thing that as a nation, the US is now far beyond anti-someone-something prejudice. Not like 110 years ago, nope.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Amazon to follow suit tout de suite

  193. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Paperback Writer

    Thank you for the book recommendation, PW. I tried to get it from the 'brary (checked on-line just now). They have the movie, but not the book. They do have "Big Little Man" if that helps, haha.

    Seriously, if the movie is that bad, I won't get it, but tell me if it is at least worthwhile.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    I saw Little Big Man years ago and thought it pretty stupid and unfunny.

  194. @Kolya Krassotkin
    @JimDandy

    I see a huge market for bootlegged copies of Seuss's work.

    (The chinese and Russians are observing us and think we're insane; and they're right.)

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Then EBay went and banned Seuss books.

  195. @Bill P
    Isn't the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-"Jap" propaganda from WWII?

    How do blacks figure into this?

    I'm starting to think I should be collecting used books. Eventually, when the woke white girls who run publishing these days cancel the rest of our literary history, they'll be worth a lot of money.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @JMcG, @Tex, @Lyra

    “Isn’t the most offensive stuff Geisel had a hand in his anti-“Jap” propaganda from WWII?

    You would be correct, but never underestimate the power of narcissism. When your worldview is, “It’s all about me”, Japanese-American being accused of treason is now magically Yet Another Reason Professional Black Dude Needs Yet More Acclaim And Adoration

  196. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Michelle

    "She reminds me"

    of my friend's wife. She's a teacher in the local school district -- junior high in a school that has a large percentage of black kids. I suggested to my friend that his wife and her fellow white teachers are resistant to return to in-class learning because the black kids are mostly troublesome and sometimes dangerous. Public schools with a lot of black kids are dysfunctional. Always have been; always will be.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Michelle

    Yeppers! What you said!

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