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Robert the Bruce, King of the Scots, is Scotland’s national hero for winning the First War of Independence against England.

Robert, 1274-1329, defeated the invading English army at Bannockburn in 1314, personally slaying a charging English knight with his battle-axe.

In June, his statue at Bannockburn was defaced with Black Lives Matter graffiti accusing him of being a racist:

Almost immediately, the Battle of Bannockburn Experience visitor center, under the National Trust for Scotland, issued an apology to blacks for Robert the Bruce’s racism.

From The Scotsman:

Why has Robert the Bruce been branded a racist?

The shock was widespread when the statue of Robert the Bruce close to the Battle of Bannockburn site was vandalised with graffiti calling one of Scotland’s national heroes a racist.
By Alison Campsie
Monday, 15th June 2020, 5:14 pm

… But why did the First King of Scots and leader of Scotland’s forces during much of the first Wars of Independence come under such an attack?

A statement from the Battle of Bannockburn Experience visitor centre has attempted to illuminate the issues surrounding the vandalism, the racism claims and why Bruce has been portrayed in this way.

While it is was not immediately apparent what the graffiti was referencing, it may relate to the fact that Bruce had his heart taken on a crusade following his death in 1329, the centre said.

So, to be precise, Robert the Bruce was guilty of Posthumous Racism because his embalmed heart was taken crusading against the Muslim invaders.

The statement added: “Sir James Douglas, who was an experience Scottish war leader and had been personally knighted by the king at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314, led a company of seven other knights and 20 squires to southern Spain, where they joined the army of King Alfonso XI of Castile on campaign against the Muslim emirate of Granada.

“Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

Uh … I can’t find any evidence that the Muslim troops at the Battle of Teba in Spain were exclusively or even predominantly what most American-influenced people would think of as “black” today. The Saracens were led by the Berber prince Uthman ibn Abi al-Ula.

Maybe this is one of those old “The wogs begin at Calais” things where old time Scots saw the French as “black” and they weren’t too sure about the English for that matter.

Heck, Robert the Bruce’s right hand man Sir James Douglas was known as Black Douglas for the color of his hair.

Perhaps the National Trust for Scotland has been taking its historical guidance from that peerless source of trustworthy facts: Black Twitter.

Maybe some of the Muslims in Spain looked like the above, but others likely looked liked Berber-French soccer all-time great Zinedine Zidane, who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

“Some modern histories have sought to present the Scots’ intention as being a peaceful pilgrimage to the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem that was merely diverted to warfare in Spain when passage to the Holy Land proved too difficult to manage.

“However, it is clear from contemporary sources, such as the safe conduct Edward III had produced so that Douglas’s party could pass through England on their way to the Continent in 1329, or the absolution given by the pope for the removal of the king’s heart, that the Scots intention had been to do battle ‘against Saracens’.”

‘Saracens’ was a word used in medieval Christendom as a ‘catch-all term for Muslims’ and was certainly not a term that anyone every applied to themselves, the centre said.

While the religious motivations behind the actions of the Douglas party were obvious, they should not be used to obscure the racial element of the conflict that Scots were involving themselves with, the statement added.

It said: “Medieval discussions of ‘race’ were not as systemised or rigidly structured as they would become in later centuries. But recent scholarship has shown that colour prejudice existed in the medieval period add that the development of the deeply flawed racial discourse that would emerge in the early modern period had already begun.

“The extent to which these broad European trends directly impacted the Scottish political community in general, and King Robert in particular, is limited somewhat by a lack of Scottish sources that discuss the issue.

“However, the Scots were certainly well aware of an engaged with ideas from outwith the kingdom and were thus susceptible to this kind of thinking.”

The point is that Robert the Bruce was extremely white, so therefore in all these complicated medieval squabbles he was in the wrong. I mean, do you know who else is Scottish? Yeah, Donald Trump.

It was important that black visitors to the Battle of Bannockburn Visitor Centre felt ‘safe and welcome’, the statement continued.

“The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.” …

Judging from this statement, I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.

 
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  1. “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

    So the insane afro-centric theory that ‘Moors’ (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    • Agree: Ano4
    • Replies: @mc203
    @Kent Nationalist

    Any blacks with the Muslims at the battle of Treba were probably slaves.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist

    , @Cido
    @Kent Nationalist


    So the insane afro-centric theory that ‘Moors’ (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream
     
    Ir there were blacks during that time with the Moors, they were servants, not ethnically Moors. They were slaves, not free citizens, protected by the "Moor constitution " of the time. LOL
    , @midtown
    @Kent Nationalist

    That works both ways: it would mean blacks enslaved millions of white Europeans.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Kent Nationalist

    Yep. As are silly theories that Ancient Egypt was all black. In all fairness, the Ancient Egyptians were probably a tad darker than the very fair Berber conquerors of Spain. But still...

    Strangely no one (blacks or liberals) acknowledges actual black civilizations in Benin, Mali, Ethiopia, Sudan....

    Replies: @Zoodles, @Forbes

    , @Lot
    @Kent Nationalist

    After the final defeat of the Moors, last emir’s dragonlady mother smacked him as he turned back for a final look as his former kingdom. “Cry, cry, like a woman for what you’d couldn’t defend like a man.”

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1273969935497084930

    , @Patrick Boyle
    @Kent Nationalist

    The truth of the matter is under attack here. Thank's Steve for alerting us yet again to the lefty mischief.

    The darkness of one's skin does not determine your race. Consider Dinsh D'Souza versus Barrack Obama. D'Souza is a dark Caucasian whereas Obama is half African. D'Souza's ancestors left Africa probably about 40,000 years ago (these estimates are constantly being revised). Thereafter his ancestors developed an advanced civilization in India. When Da Gama sailed into India he was surprised at how advanced the natives were. Previous Portuguese explorers had met subsaharan Africans and therefore he had expected primitive savages. The first Portuguese to see black Africans had thought they were a type of Chimpanzee. They expected humans to have some signs of development like a written language, buildings not huts, domesticated plants and animals, and stone monuments.

    The Spaniards and Portuguese who sailed west to the Americas at about the same time found all these features of civilization in the Inca, Aztecs, and Maya. Their ancestors had left Africa had early also.

    Barrack Obama's black side ancestors however never left Africa until the Age of Exploration in the modern world the second half of the fifteenth century. These may very well be some of those whom the Portuguese thought to be apes.

    Race is lineage. You are the present day manifestation of an unbroken line of succession of organisms that started billions of years ago. Some peoples have followed different paths. It's not just skin color. It's deeper.

    , @nebulafox
    @Kent Nationalist

    St. Augustine's black now?

  2. Most medieval christians fought in the crusades.

    The crusades were racist against People of Color

    Therefore we should not celebrate medical Christians

    Thus is why we NEED immigration and diversity-so that People of Color can tell white people the truth about things

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Freddie Geed


    Therefore we should not celebrate medical Christians
     
    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/01/529567901-1017x1024.jpg
    , @fish
    @Freddie Geed

    https://external-preview.redd.it/XRJ_o1wMkLnHRYoLiupOOosa2qpxgTz8-iAParSR3HI.jpg?auto=webp&s=8ca04ba8d2014bef52e732b97925408e0f7c1d2d

  3. With his predilection for cutting to the chase, I can only imagine how Edward I, Bruce’s English rival, would have refered to (and dealt with) the BLM marauders.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    "With his predilection for cutting to the chase, I an only imagine how Edward I, Bruce's English rival, would have referred to (and dealt with) the BLM marauders."

    See the next to last scene in "Braveheart (1995)" for what Edward I did to people who caused him trouble.

    Actually Robert Bruce defeated Edward II's forces at Bannockburn.

    Replies: @anon

  4. the Scots intention had been to do battle ‘against Saracens’.”

    An intention that can never be forbidden!

    It was important that black visitors to the Battle of Bannockburn Visitor Centre felt ‘safe and welcome’, the statement continued.

    “The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.” …

    Well, if black slavery inviting reparations and whitey taking the knee (not up the arse, sadly) existed in places where no negro ever set foot until the advent of tramp steamers and cheap air travel, I suppose a Purely Scottish Historic Event against ethnicity that had not qualms about slavery makes blacks feel racistically threatened by museums these days.

    Seriously, when can we start this Boogaloo thing?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @El Dato

    Steve,
    I think you've traditionally had a policy against calls for violence. As I posted once before, I'm not sure if "Boogaloo Boys" is a real but overhyped thing or a fiction meant to be used for gaslighting. Whichever is the case, according to the official narrative, calls to get the boogaloo started are calls for starting civil war. Even used ironically, they may not be interpreted as jokes. Something to keep in mind.

  5. There’s cameras all over the UK. Have they arrested the vandals yet?

    • Replies: @a guy named me
    @Dr. X

    why so they can be promoted and given an award?

    Ethiopians (preseter john) participated in the crusades on the side of Christians, that should complicate things.

    Replies: @Graham

  6. Reconquista was decolonisation.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Zoodles

    Of course it was.

    We are going to see an awful lot of similar decolonisation in the near future if people who hate the majority in the countries they live in continue to express that hatred in violent, dishonest, insulting, and blasphemous ways.

    Hatred, dishonesty, and blasphemy are one-way tickets to being disliked by people who have little respect for dishonest hate-filled blasphemers.

    Well, if the white community in Pakistan continues to attack Muslim historical statues and shrines, and demand that Pakistanis abjure their heritage, and denounce their ancestors, things might not go so well for that community!!!!

  7. Scotland’s history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

    But seriously, the cuckish nature of so many White people is shocking. It’s mainly localized in the “elite” class and among the Really Smart set.

    Most of the White working class and probably half the middle class would tell them to “f**k off and die” to their face.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @RichardTaylor

    "Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible."

    As a country, as soon as the elites figure out there's profit in the people who are revolting, they'll support it. Right now the Republicans are kissing ass because they figure there's a wipeout coming in November and they think they'll be treated better if they cuck now. That might change.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    , @BB753
    @RichardTaylor

    They're not cucks, just power-hungry and money-greedy bastards selling us out.

    , @Amerimutt Golems
    @RichardTaylor

    Scotland’s history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

     

    I mentioned a while back on UR Glasgow University's £20 million pledge because of past links to slavery.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

     

    I don't see a political solution as they dominate the culture.
  8. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Having dark eyes and black hair at the same time was dramatic enough for the term ‘Black Irish’ to exist.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Altai

    Edward of Woodstock, The Black Prince, was named either because he was cruel to captured enemies or his dark armor.

    Thomas Fairfax, a Yorkshireman in the Scottish peerage and roundhead general, was called Black Tom for having dark features.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/General_Thomas_Fairfax_%281612-1671%29_by_Robert_Walker_and_studio.jpg/932px-General_Thomas_Fairfax_%281612-1671%29_by_Robert_Walker_and_studio.jpg

  9. Actually it was carried out by Unionists (aka Neo-Nazis)

    We might not be able to identify the individuals involved, but there can be no doubt unionists vandalised the Robert the Bruce monument at Bannockburn, and here's why: https://t.co/uL13szd3Ae— Jason Michael (@Jeggit) June 17, 2020

  10. The Spaniards and the allies, some of them Scots, fighting to liberate their lands are now viewed as racist. Panagiotis Kondylis warned us about this warped way of thinking in his, Theory of War.

    https://www.panagiotiskondylis.com/resources/Theory%20of%20War%20%E2%80%93%20Summary%20Notes%20%28Complete%29.pdf

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Agathoklis


    The Spaniards and the allies, some of them Scots, fighting to liberate their lands are now viewed as racist.
     
    Yes, the Reconquista will now be considered illegitimate, and Iberia was stolen from People of Color. The National Trust of Scotland now sides with muslim revanchists like Usama bin Laden.

    Replies: @NOTA

  11. • Replies: @usNthem
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Clown world no longer even begins to describe it.

  12. Past (white) and Present (black)

    The idea is, that history in the sense of a coherent story about a) the past and b) responsibility and all that (honor, respect and self-respect, and accountability, etc.) would be white throughout.

    Whereas black would be the sheer innocent human present.

    II

    A possible way of thinking. Only problem it brings with it is, that the innocent purity of the black persons present – according to the above-given dichotomy is that seen from an existential standpoint, this prototypically pure and innocent being could only be a saint – or a child.

    The grown-up in this setting is always the white person (the sinner) and the black person is always (=necessarily/=structurally) the child. So – this mindset above, in all it’s contemporary trustfulness, reinstitutes what it seemingly fights: The black person as somebody with no majority.)

  13. Oh man, wait until they come for Queen Isabel in Spain….

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @moshe
    @a guy named me

    Well, I'm not one for destruction but I did spit on her tomb.

    Replies: @a guy named me

  14. @Dr. X
    There's cameras all over the UK. Have they arrested the vandals yet?

    Replies: @a guy named me

    why so they can be promoted and given an award?

    Ethiopians (preseter john) participated in the crusades on the side of Christians, that should complicate things.

    • Replies: @Graham
    @a guy named me

    Prester John is an attractive character but he didn't have the vital attribute of actually existing.

  15. If this gets Bruce Springsteen off the convenience-store Muzak loop, then some good will come of it. I was subjected to “Dancing in the Dark” each of the last two afternoons.

    Sadly, it wasn’t this one:

    • Replies: @AnonymousMillenial
    @Reg Cæsar

    I've never really liked Bing's voice, and nothing about that song strikes me as any more "classic" or timeless than The Boss's Dancing in the Dark, which itself is probably his most annoying song.

    , @JMcG
    @Reg Cæsar

    B. Springsteen. A rich man wearing a poor man’s shirt.

    , @Kyle
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve been waiting for 1975-1982 boomer rock to die from the air waves for the past 20 years. It won’t die.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  16. By the same logic, if a gangbanger wears a Martin Luther King t-shirt when doing a drive-by shooting then does that make MLK an accessory to homicide?

    • Replies: @a guy named me
    @Lockean Proviso

    That's whitethink.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Lockean Proviso

    Lock, only if the gangbanger had MLK's embalmed heart with him. Best to be cremated and have your ashes scattered rather than be called a racist.

  17. It said: “Medieval discussions of ‘race’ were not as systemised or rigidly structured as they would become in later centuries. But recent scholarship has shown that colour prejudice existed in the medieval period add that the development of the deeply flawed racial discourse that would emerge in the early modern period had already begun”

    Whilst we slept they’ve been building their case against us, and the verdict is guilty: in all times, in all places. Richard Spencer called it ‘the Great Erasure’ and he was right.

  18. @Freddie Geed
    Most medieval christians fought in the crusades.

    The crusades were racist against People of Color

    Therefore we should not celebrate medical Christians

    Thus is why we NEED immigration and diversity-so that People of Color can tell white people the truth about things

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @fish

    Therefore we should not celebrate medical Christians

  19. I was having a little think today about this ‘taking a knee’ b/s.
    Why don’t some funny and fearless guys and gals sit down at a ‘protest’ and say they are “takin’ an ass” for BLM? Eh?

  20. “The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.”

    So they have their own history and also control our history? Separation now.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Gordo

    Are black Scots anything like, or resemble, black Irish?

    Asking for a friend...

    Replies: @Cortes, @Gordo

  21. The vast majority of Moors in Iberia who looked like those pictures were slaves.

    Judging from this statement, I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.

    Meaning – the vast majority of Scots finally have been Anglicized so thoroughly that they hate themselves and will act the way the poor white trash under WASP Elites are supposed to act.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Jake

    Who are these WASP Elites you speak of? Who are so controlling over the vast majority of Scots behaving as poor, white trash?

  22. @Lockean Proviso
    By the same logic, if a gangbanger wears a Martin Luther King t-shirt when doing a drive-by shooting then does that make MLK an accessory to homicide?

    Replies: @a guy named me, @Buffalo Joe

    That’s whitethink.

  23. @Reg Cæsar
    If this gets Bruce Springsteen off the convenience-store Muzak loop, then some good will come of it. I was subjected to "Dancing in the Dark" each of the last two afternoons.

    Sadly, it wasn't this one:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8eAIbT5Ew

    Replies: @AnonymousMillenial, @JMcG, @Kyle

    I’ve never really liked Bing’s voice, and nothing about that song strikes me as any more “classic” or timeless than The Boss’s Dancing in the Dark, which itself is probably his most annoying song.

  24. A skilled craftsman of my acquaintance refers to tradesmen employed by the city council and other public sector bodies as “kids playing safe from the traffic”.

    The National Trusts provide a safe place for the idiot younger children of the upper and upper middle classes to have sinecures. Easy life, often little work other than self-promotion and networking, frequently with elegant accommodation thrown in: what’s not to like? They like a smattering of political hacks on the Board for “credibility”.

    Oh: and then they are guarding the nation’s heritage.

  25. @Hapalong Cassidy
    OT: here’s a softball for Steve and his readers:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-accuses-cisco-job-discrimination-013226991.html?bcmt=1

    Replies: @usNthem

    Clown world no longer even begins to describe it.

  26. Accusing historic figures of “racism” and smashing their icons (literally and figuratively) is one tactic in the ongoing demoralization campaign.

    The other is to claim that the figure was secretly … black! … and that subsequent historiography has been a big cover up.

    Hamilton, Beethoven, and others have been subjected to this treatment. It seems to me that a character named “Black Douglas” would be a candidate for it as well, but that tactic was not used in this case.

    Put the tactics together and the “lesson” for Europeans is: Half your heroes were racists, the other half were black.

    But how do they determine which category prevails for a given figure? Why insist Douglas (or Robert the Bruce) was racist when you could insist he was black? Obviously the historical record plays no role in the determination.

    One thing that comes to mind is that the putative racists are often men associated with war and violence, while the putative blacks are associated with civilization or peace. That’s supposed to be funny, right?

  27. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    Any blacks with the Muslims at the battle of Treba were probably slaves.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @mc203

    Blacks seem to have been very poor soldiers during the Crusades.

    In the First Crusade, the Fatimid black slave corps were chained together in battle, yet still crushed by the Europeans at Ascalon. Saladin also dealt with them quite easily after overthrowing the Fatimids.

  28. The ethnic cleansing continues …. this is like one of those scenes where the bad guys force the poor schlubs they’re about to execute to dig their own graves. If you’re going to die anyway, why help them?

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    If you’re going to die anyway, why help them?
     
    Because it's the nice, anti-racist thing to do!
  29. Well, Robert the Bruce was obviously against open borders, which is also a misstep these days.

    About the Crusades, well, it could be argued that Arabs were the invaders in the Middle – East and North Africa, killing and enslaving the locals, who were Christians and citizens of the Eastern Roman Empire, or forcibly converting them to Islam. Well, I guess that to the woke that was a good thing.
    Then Arabs started importing millions of slaves from South of the Sahara, thus starting chattel slavery on a large scale.

    • Agree: Ano4
  30. I wonder if I can get the town of Hamelin to apologize for their speciesist tales that describe rodents as lacking agency.

  31. @The Alarmist
    The ethnic cleansing continues .... this is like one of those scenes where the bad guys force the poor schlubs they're about to execute to dig their own graves. If you're going to die anyway, why help them?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    If you’re going to die anyway, why help them?

    Because it’s the nice, anti-racist thing to do!

  32. Boss Fight Music Abates!

    • Replies: @anon
    @El Dato

    She sees street anarchy as "democracy". What an insult. Democracy means civil discourse, voting, majority rule, rule of law.
    Street anarchy is an attack on democracy. The thug with the biggest muscles rules, as was proven in CHOP.

  33. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    Also I’m confused. Why was the Reconquista bad? It was the reassertion of control by the native peoples over settler colonialists who didn’t have much respect for the natives religion or culture.

    The Moors were the bad guys.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Altai

    The reason why we don't see it that way in America is becuase of the legacy of British/WASP imperialism. Anglo elites as far back as the 1400 and 1500's developed anti-Spanish ideologies to justify their own imperial ambitions. In Anglodom, Spain was portrayed as wicked and oppressive. Great emphasis was given to supposed Spanish narrow mindedness and intolerance of minorities and this was used to demonize Spain and justify Anglos attacking Spain. It's natural if you see Spain as intolerant villains to sympathize with the Muslim invaders and their Jewish helpers. Framing the issues the way WASPs have for hundreds of years make it impossible to sympathize with the indigenous European Christian Spanish people.

    A huge part of the fight to save the West is tearing down the myths of WASPdom, from which self hating liberalism originates. Every time in the last 500 years that WASPs, in the UK or USA, coveted the wealth, power or land of another European nation, WASP elites would connect propaganda accusing the targeted nation of bigotry, backwardness and intolerance of religious minorities. Anglo people became conditioned to this kind of thinking over hundreds of years. The narrative of "bad majority oppresses innocent minorities and therefor must be physically attacked" is so deep in WASP culture that it probably can't be taken out. The whole rotten culture has to be burned to the ground. That's why most young Anglo-Saxon men who are on the good side are rejecting Puritan/Evangelical type religion completely for traditional Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Germanic Lutheran style Protestantism or Paganism. The fact that some Puritans cheered the Muslims who invaded Europe is all you need to know about the deep roots our our crisis.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @a guy named me
    @Altai

    Queen Isabella expelled the Jews. Jews look at moorish spain as their 'golden age'.

  34. I can imagine the little group of cuck-whites beetling away deep into the night to get their “statement” written, every word heavily weighed in the scales, with “white guilt” on one side and every cucked and slavish knee-bowing word of the statement placed on the other side until a final balance was met.

    The comments on Facebook (those I could stand to read) are the usual bunch of timid whites cautiously disagreeing, a few blunter types, and a host of self-hating whites and triumphant non-whites. There’s one cucky white guy with multiple comments who seemed to take it on himself to fight for the white-hating-white-guy point of view.

    This is what a shameful race traitor looks like:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=557474931300980&set=a.105958309785980

  35. I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.

    Well, Vandals deserves a capital letter. The Vandals originated in Poland and then moved southwards when they were displaced by the Huns, and eventually established a kingdom in Africa, as well as having a strong presence in Spain and sacked the city of Rome in 455.

    Using their name as a synonym for hooligans is a gross racist slander on these proud warriors, but Robert The Bruce has no need to apologize to them.

    Bruce drew his inspiration from a spider.

    At one point Robert the Bruce was forced into hiding after Edward I of England invaded. There is a famous legend that when his spirits were at a particularly low point Robert took refuge in a cave. There, he watched as a spider tried over and over again to build her web before eventually succeeding. This is said to have inspired Robert to carry on fighting the English. He did so, and after the death of Edward I in 1307, he went on to defeat Edward II’s forces at Battle of Bannockburn on 24 June 1314. This was a significant Scottish victory in the First War of Scottish Independence. The part that a humble spider played in this landmark in Scottish history remains the stuff of legend.

    https://www.transceltic.com/blog/legend-of-robert-bruce-and-spider#:~:text=Legend%20of%20Robert%20the%20Bruce%20and%20the%20spider.,King%20of%20Scots%20until%20his%20death%20in%201329.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jonathan Mason

    "A noiseless patient spider" is one of Whitman's best poems -- and, mercifully, also one of his shortest.

    , @David In TN
    @Jonathan Mason

    I remember reading the legend of Robert Bruce and the spider when I was seven years old.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @ChrisZ
    @Jonathan Mason

    Enjoyable comment, story, and image, Jonathan. Thanks.

    BTW, I'm waiting for The Bruce to be cancelled as a gay basher for humiliating England's Edward II.

  36. When were those paintings painted? What sort of information would the painters have had?

  37. Cido says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    So the insane afro-centric theory that ‘Moors’ (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Ir there were blacks during that time with the Moors, they were servants, not ethnically Moors. They were slaves, not free citizens, protected by the “Moor constitution ” of the time. LOL

  38. Abe says:

    Wikipedia is wonderful. Marvelous. You start browsing one thing and then never know where you’ll end up. Last week I ran across these guys- Saints Cosmas and Damian, Christian martyr brothers from the 3rd Century who are big in the Orthodox Christian tradition for having been “silver-less” physicians- i.e. doctors who cured for no payment:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Cosmas_and_Damian

    2 wonderful fellows- wait, breaking news!- they harvested parts from Black Bodies to cure wyppo? Cancel the devils!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Abe

    It looks like they're building the Six Million Denarii Man--one who should be good at basketball....

  39. Well, it’s not like the Clans can rally and crush BLM, is it?

  40. Gene Kelly found guilty of cultural misappropriation.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Jonathan Mason

    Great dancing. The noose that appears at 2:20 is guaranteed to trigger. Just a matter of time until that clip is suppressed.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  41. Robert the Bruce

    has now become

    Court the Berber

    Credit to one of the another regular commentators for inspiring the wordplay.

  42. @Jonathan Mason

    I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.
     
    Well, Vandals deserves a capital letter. The Vandals originated in Poland and then moved southwards when they were displaced by the Huns, and eventually established a kingdom in Africa, as well as having a strong presence in Spain and sacked the city of Rome in 455.

    Using their name as a synonym for hooligans is a gross racist slander on these proud warriors, but Robert The Bruce has no need to apologize to them.

    Bruce drew his inspiration from a spider.

    At one point Robert the Bruce was forced into hiding after Edward I of England invaded. There is a famous legend that when his spirits were at a particularly low point Robert took refuge in a cave. There, he watched as a spider tried over and over again to build her web before eventually succeeding. This is said to have inspired Robert to carry on fighting the English. He did so, and after the death of Edward I in 1307, he went on to defeat Edward II's forces at Battle of Bannockburn on 24 June 1314. This was a significant Scottish victory in the First War of Scottish Independence. The part that a humble spider played in this landmark in Scottish history remains the stuff of legend.

    https://www.transceltic.com/blog/legend-of-robert-bruce-and-spider#:~:text=Legend%20of%20Robert%20the%20Bruce%20and%20the%20spider.,King%20of%20Scots%20until%20his%20death%20in%201329.

    https://www.transceltic.com/sites/default/files/robert_the_bruce_0.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @David In TN, @ChrisZ

    “A noiseless patient spider” is one of Whitman’s best poems — and, mercifully, also one of his shortest.

  43. Not until blacks give up 3 piece suits, modern transportation, electronics and medicine and refrigerated food will I take anyone being charged with cultural appropriation seriously.

  44. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    That works both ways: it would mean blacks enslaved millions of white Europeans.

  45. The story is that James “Black” Douglas was taking Bruce’s heart to the Holy Land by sea, but while in Spain stopped to battle the infidel Moors. Douglas hurled the casket containing Bruce’s heart into the enemy ranks and charged, crying “Forward, brave heart, as was ever thy wont! Douglas will follow thee or die!

  46. @mc203
    @Kent Nationalist

    Any blacks with the Muslims at the battle of Treba were probably slaves.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist

    Blacks seem to have been very poor soldiers during the Crusades.

    In the First Crusade, the Fatimid black slave corps were chained together in battle, yet still crushed by the Europeans at Ascalon. Saladin also dealt with them quite easily after overthrowing the Fatimids.

  47. Someone needs to organize a TV session where BLM activists and (((activists))) explain to Turks, Egyptians, and Algerians sitting across them that they are in fact Negros.

    Should be great fun. And I’m not kidding. This should organized ASAP. BLM activists TOTALLY need to tell these people that they are Negros. This will be a crucial real life test to at least this element of their web of lies. Or, who know, maybe truth. Depending on whether the Turks and Tunisians are all like “we Negros…”

  48. @Reg Cæsar
    If this gets Bruce Springsteen off the convenience-store Muzak loop, then some good will come of it. I was subjected to "Dancing in the Dark" each of the last two afternoons.

    Sadly, it wasn't this one:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8eAIbT5Ew

    Replies: @AnonymousMillenial, @JMcG, @Kyle

    B. Springsteen. A rich man wearing a poor man’s shirt.

  49. @Freddie Geed
    Most medieval christians fought in the crusades.

    The crusades were racist against People of Color

    Therefore we should not celebrate medical Christians

    Thus is why we NEED immigration and diversity-so that People of Color can tell white people the truth about things

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @fish

  50. @RichardTaylor
    Scotland's history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

    But seriously, the cuckish nature of so many White people is shocking. It's mainly localized in the "elite" class and among the Really Smart set.

    Most of the White working class and probably half the middle class would tell them to "f**k off and die" to their face.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @BB753, @Amerimutt Golems

    “Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.”

    As a country, as soon as the elites figure out there’s profit in the people who are revolting, they’ll support it. Right now the Republicans are kissing ass because they figure there’s a wipeout coming in November and they think they’ll be treated better if they cuck now. That might change.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @TomSchmidt

    Would that be a “wypipo-out”?

  51. @RichardTaylor
    Scotland's history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

    But seriously, the cuckish nature of so many White people is shocking. It's mainly localized in the "elite" class and among the Really Smart set.

    Most of the White working class and probably half the middle class would tell them to "f**k off and die" to their face.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @BB753, @Amerimutt Golems

    They’re not cucks, just power-hungry and money-greedy bastards selling us out.

  52. There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.

    European history is basically a big In Your Face to the less accomplished races of the world, so these anti-historians are set on doing something about it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.
     
    Soon, every academic discipline will be in the hands of people who hate it.
    , @Peterike
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “ There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.”

    Like Zuckerberg’s sister going into classics.

  53. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    Yep. As are silly theories that Ancient Egypt was all black. In all fairness, the Ancient Egyptians were probably a tad darker than the very fair Berber conquerors of Spain. But still…

    Strangely no one (blacks or liberals) acknowledges actual black civilizations in Benin, Mali, Ethiopia, Sudan….

    • Replies: @Zoodles
    @S. Anonyia

    Thats because the essence of Blackness lay in taking from white people.

    , @Forbes
    @S. Anonyia

    My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what's usually called an "olive" skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.

    Feelings matter, facts don't.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Colin Wright

  54. a pox on their houses in perpetuity.

  55. @Lockean Proviso
    By the same logic, if a gangbanger wears a Martin Luther King t-shirt when doing a drive-by shooting then does that make MLK an accessory to homicide?

    Replies: @a guy named me, @Buffalo Joe

    Lock, only if the gangbanger had MLK’s embalmed heart with him. Best to be cremated and have your ashes scattered rather than be called a racist.

  56. @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, at least they didn’t purge 819 white members, or did they?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Buffalo Joe

    Pilt, at least they didn’t purge 819 white members, or did they?

    That's the beauty of court-packing schemes, you don't have to purge anybody to win.

  57. @Agathoklis
    The Spaniards and the allies, some of them Scots, fighting to liberate their lands are now viewed as racist. Panagiotis Kondylis warned us about this warped way of thinking in his, Theory of War.

    https://www.panagiotiskondylis.com/resources/Theory%20of%20War%20%E2%80%93%20Summary%20Notes%20%28Complete%29.pdf

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The Spaniards and the allies, some of them Scots, fighting to liberate their lands are now viewed as racist.

    Yes, the Reconquista will now be considered illegitimate, and Iberia was stolen from People of Color. The National Trust of Scotland now sides with muslim revanchists like Usama bin Laden.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Mr. Anon

    Some poor guy was assigned to write that dreck stretching for some kind of excuse for the grafitti despite it making no sense, and he was clearly smart enough to know how silly his justification was. Why did they feel the need to write it?

    Replies: @David In TN

  58. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.

    European history is basically a big In Your Face to the less accomplished races of the world, so these anti-historians are set on doing something about it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.

    Soon, every academic discipline will be in the hands of people who hate it.

  59. Maybe some of the Muslims in Spain looked like the above, but others likely looked liked Berber-French soccer all-time great Zinedine Zidane, who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

    Dario Fernandez-Morera in The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise… makes the case that it was common practice for the emirs of Muslim Medieval Spain – as it was for the Ottomans with Slavic women – to take Spanish slave women and even other Christian slave women from further afar (Slavic lands, Byzantine lands) as concubines and wives. The children of such liaisons were brought up as Muslims and became emirs or hidalgo emirs. This went on for generations, and was compounded so that after a few hundred years the Muslims of Spain were in many cases indistinguishable from the Christians of Spain. If one searches around on the internet one can find painted medieval and late medieval representations of Spanish Muslims that portray the Muslims as variously colored: brown haired, red haired, blonde…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Daniel H

    '
    Dario Fernandez-Morera in The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise… makes the case that it was common practice for the emirs of Muslim Medieval Spain – as it was for the Ottomans with Slavic women – to take Spanish slave women and even other Christian slave women from further afar (Slavic lands, Byzantine lands) as concubines and wives. The children of such liaisons were brought up as Muslims and became emirs or hidalgo emirs. This went on for generations, and was compounded so that after a few hundred years the Muslims of Spain were in many cases indistinguishable from the Christians of Spain. If one searches around on the internet one can find painted medieval and late medieval representations of Spanish Muslims that portray the Muslims as variously colored: brown haired, red haired, blonde…'


    Of course. This happens with everybody. That's one of several reasons why the notion that Jews are completely distinct from the gentiles of their various former homelands is the most obvious nonsense.

    Replies: @Malla

  60. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    After the final defeat of the Moors, last emir’s dragonlady mother smacked him as he turned back for a final look as his former kingdom. “Cry, cry, like a woman for what you’d couldn’t defend like a man.”

    • Agree: Angharad
  61. @Buffalo Joe
    @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, at least they didn't purge 819 white members, or did they?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Pilt, at least they didn’t purge 819 white members, or did they?

    That’s the beauty of court-packing schemes, you don’t have to purge anybody to win.

  62. Ironically, what Edward Longshanks said about Scots was pretty similar to what modern-day WNs say about blacks.

    But this is silly. It is probable that Robert the Bruce never even saw a black person in his life, or even had a somewhat accurate world map that indicated where Sub-Saharan Africa even was.

    Moorish monarchs in Al-Andalus certainly were not black. Their substantial interbreeding with local Europeans proves this. 15-20% of the genotype of Spaniards today indicates ancestry from Morocco and Algeria. But no Spaniards appear to be quatroons or octoroons.

    Maybe this is one of those old “The wogs begin at Calais” things where old time Scots saw the French as “black” and they weren’t too sure about the English for that matter.

    Heh. This is the sort of fact that makes Ron Unz have a fit. He is comically ignorant about this sort of thing. Nothing bugs him more than the fact that most WNs on this website don’t consider Jews to be white (try it out on him, and see; great fun can be had).

    who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

    Yul Brynner was actually a Tatar, btw, indicative of substantial Mongol ancestry. This is obvious.

    • Replies: @OP
    @Thomm

    Where do you get such high numbers? All the studies I've seen in the last ten years have indicated a Peninsular average of 5%, with it peaking in Portugal and Galicia at 8-12% and lowest in Basque, at 1-0%. (Basques are the closest thing we have to Iron-age Iberians, pre-Carthage, Rome, or Moor.)
    I have never seen a Peninsular a score of 15% North African in any genetic test, no matter the calculator.

    , @Dicentim
    @Thomm

    No one knows for sure what ethnicities and backgrounds Yul Brynner had as he had made quite a few claims regarding that and he came from a time and place where all those claims could be true or false; if I were to put money on any, I'd say that it was the same as Charlie Chaplin's, that is when I figure that one out...

    As for Zidane; he has become a poster boy for showing how White North Africa is, and it is true that to me his appearance and life choices make him a European. To be honest, unlike many here with whom I share certain views, I don't care much about physical appearance and I accept people who genuinely embrace values that I consider to be mine, but for the sake of being academically objective, I must note that presently only a minority of North Africans look as European as Zidane and they are more concentrated among certain ethnic groups that claim to have been the original inhabitants of that land; they are usually called Berbers, but the truth is that it is an appelation that covers the speakers of Berber languages, some of whom, like the Kabyles, Riffans and Chaouis look White or Mediterranean, while some like the Tuaregs look predominantly Black; it is easy to understand that processes similar to those that led the English and Spanish languages to be spoken by people of different races around the world, must have taken place earlier with the spread of the Berber and later Arab languages in North Africa. So the point to take home is that Berber is not a race but a group of languages and that they are spoken by different ethnic groups that each should be seen as its own thing.

    Besides that, a majority (if statistics can be trusted) of North Africans do not speak Berber but local dialects of Arabic and generally identify either with the regions or countries that they inhabit or as Arab (usually vis a vis their Berber neighbours), nevertheless, most are not descended from Middle Eastern Arabs but are the result of language adoption and certain mixing mainly among ethnicities already inhabiting North Africa during the Arab conquest, to which some Iberian expellees, Arabs, Turks and slaves (both Black and European) were added.

    Finally, a lot of North Africans both at home and in Europe call themselves Arab because of religion and because the French called them so.

    Replies: @Ano4

  63. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    Robert the Noose

  64. Yeah, no. We know what our former enemies looked like. And though people tend to overestimate the visual overlap between the two populations, they certainly looked more like us than black twitter implies.

  65. 1. I don’t use this term very often, but this whole reply is retarded.

    2. Wasn’t Robert de Brus Norman in family origin? Why are Scots celebrating the scion of one conqueror defeating another for the throne of their country? 😉

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Twinkie

    "Wasn’t Robert de Brus Norman in family origin?"

    Indeed.

    And guess where William de Walys (Wallace) family origins were?

  66. The Moors have been black since interpretations of Shakespeare made them so; subsequently various Moors, Saracens etc. were portrayed by Black actors; it initially made sense: in earlier days, Islam in America was associated with Nation of Islam, so it was natural that people of that creed had to look the part too; do you remember the time when Eddie Murphy portrayed a Pharaoh while Michael Jackson was Moses? Egypt got privatised too; then they got Hannibal, who was a proto-Moor of sorts; now it appears that the Roman legions had many Black soldiers, you see, some provinces were in Africa and Africans are Black and so were some of the Achaians and Trojans that made it to Homer and Sicilians too as explained by the late Dennis Hopper in True Romance.

    Robert the Bruce most probably didn’t encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in his life; he possibly wasn’t even aware of their existence or had as much awareness about them as about elves and dragons; the knights that transported his heart on their campaign possibly didn’t encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; hell, it could even be that some or perhaps all their Mahometan foes didn’t encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; think of it: fourteenth century, five or six centuries of Islam in Spain, most people not moving more than a couple of dozen miles from their place of birth, most Spanish Mahometans being from local or remote North African descent, slavery existant but most slaves being of European stock…

    Of course Robert the Bruce was an associate of William Wallace and the latter, as we all know is none other than the infamous Mel Gibson, who as we all know holds certain views…

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Dicentim

    And certainly William Wallace was an ancestor of George Wallace.

    , @Ano4
    @Dicentim


    hell, it could even be that some or perhaps all their Mahometan foes didn’t encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; think of it: fourteenth century, five or six centuries of Islam in Spain, most people not moving more than a couple of dozen miles from their place of birth, most Spanish Mahometans being from local or remote North African descent, slavery existant but most slaves being of European stock……
     
    Arabs and Berbers have a very clear opinion about them being absolutely non-related to the Sub-saharan Blacks. As one Touareg once told to one of my family members: "The sons of Mohammad are not the same as the sons of Tin Hinan and they both are not Bilal's children ". He did not say that he saw them as being superior or inferior to each other, but he was absolutely aware of them being different. This is true race-realism.
  67. More relevant than ever…..

  68. OP says:
    @Thomm
    Ironically, what Edward Longshanks said about Scots was pretty similar to what modern-day WNs say about blacks.

    But this is silly. It is probable that Robert the Bruce never even saw a black person in his life, or even had a somewhat accurate world map that indicated where Sub-Saharan Africa even was.

    Moorish monarchs in Al-Andalus certainly were not black. Their substantial interbreeding with local Europeans proves this. 15-20% of the genotype of Spaniards today indicates ancestry from Morocco and Algeria. But no Spaniards appear to be quatroons or octoroons.


    Maybe this is one of those old “The wogs begin at Calais” things where old time Scots saw the French as “black” and they weren’t too sure about the English for that matter.
     
    Heh. This is the sort of fact that makes Ron Unz have a fit. He is comically ignorant about this sort of thing. Nothing bugs him more than the fact that most WNs on this website don't consider Jews to be white (try it out on him, and see; great fun can be had).

    who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

     

    Yul Brynner was actually a Tatar, btw, indicative of substantial Mongol ancestry. This is obvious.

    Replies: @OP, @Dicentim

    Where do you get such high numbers? All the studies I’ve seen in the last ten years have indicated a Peninsular average of 5%, with it peaking in Portugal and Galicia at 8-12% and lowest in Basque, at 1-0%. (Basques are the closest thing we have to Iron-age Iberians, pre-Carthage, Rome, or Moor.)
    I have never seen a Peninsular a score of 15% North African in any genetic test, no matter the calculator.

  69. @Mr. Anon
    @Agathoklis


    The Spaniards and the allies, some of them Scots, fighting to liberate their lands are now viewed as racist.
     
    Yes, the Reconquista will now be considered illegitimate, and Iberia was stolen from People of Color. The National Trust of Scotland now sides with muslim revanchists like Usama bin Laden.

    Replies: @NOTA

    Some poor guy was assigned to write that dreck stretching for some kind of excuse for the grafitti despite it making no sense, and he was clearly smart enough to know how silly his justification was. Why did they feel the need to write it?

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @NOTA

    "Why did they feel the need to write it?"

    The Scots have become the same cowardly hypocrites as white liberals everywhere with the need for Virtue Signaling.

  70. @Gordo

    “The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.”
     
    So they have their own history and also control our history? Separation now.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Are black Scots anything like, or resemble, black Irish?

    Asking for a friend…

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Forbes

    The name “Dougal” seems to mean “black foreigner/stranger” and the MacDougall clan of Argyll descends from Somerled (the “Donald” of the MacDonalds). Dougal is also the name of the dimwit young priest in Craggy Island in the Ireland of “Fr. Ted”.

    Sir James Douglas was known to the English of the day as “Black Douglas” for his actions against them. To his compatriots he was “Good Sir James”.

    J.K. Galbraith (I think) mentioned about the fear Scots Canadians of Gaelic background had of being landed with damaging nicknames since they tended to carry over to successive generations. Looking at a name like “MacLeod” (“son of ugly”) one can understand the fear.

    , @Gordo
    @Forbes

    Go up the Western Isles and there is a lot of identical to the Black Irish blood.

    Not the same as being black as in an African of course :-)

    In South East Scotland the race is pretty much Anglo-Saxon, and funnily enough the only part of Scotland where cricket is played to any extent.

  71. @S. Anonyia
    @Kent Nationalist

    Yep. As are silly theories that Ancient Egypt was all black. In all fairness, the Ancient Egyptians were probably a tad darker than the very fair Berber conquerors of Spain. But still...

    Strangely no one (blacks or liberals) acknowledges actual black civilizations in Benin, Mali, Ethiopia, Sudan....

    Replies: @Zoodles, @Forbes

    Thats because the essence of Blackness lay in taking from white people.

  72. OP says:

    I edited my comment several times. I left the page, and then returned, to see if it had been published. To my dismay, I found it had reverted back to the original syntax but with time to reedit. I applied my original edits, but it did not allow it.
    As I meant to write: “Where did you get such high numbers? Every study I’ve read the past ten years has indicated a peninsular average of 5%, with it peaking in Galicia and Portugal at 8-12%, and the lowest in Basque, at 1-0%. (The Basques are the closest thing we have to Iron Age Iberians, pre-Carthage, Rome, and Moor.) I have never seen a Peninsular with a score of 15% NA, no matter the calculator used.

  73. @Jake
    The vast majority of Moors in Iberia who looked like those pictures were slaves.

    Judging from this statement, I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.

    Meaning - the vast majority of Scots finally have been Anglicized so thoroughly that they hate themselves and will act the way the poor white trash under WASP Elites are supposed to act.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Who are these WASP Elites you speak of? Who are so controlling over the vast majority of Scots behaving as poor, white trash?

  74. Perhaps the movement concerns the original blacks of Europe?

  75. @S. Anonyia
    @Kent Nationalist

    Yep. As are silly theories that Ancient Egypt was all black. In all fairness, the Ancient Egyptians were probably a tad darker than the very fair Berber conquerors of Spain. But still...

    Strangely no one (blacks or liberals) acknowledges actual black civilizations in Benin, Mali, Ethiopia, Sudan....

    Replies: @Zoodles, @Forbes

    My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what’s usually called an “olive” skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.

    Feelings matter, facts don’t.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Forbes


    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.
     
    I've heard the Sahara described topographically and historically as an enormous sea of sand. It really ought to be thought of in that way - as a veritably impassable sea dividing Africa into two until recent times.

    Even with camels, to travel into the vast Sahara was certain death.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Forbes

    'My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what’s usually called an “olive” skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    'That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.'

    'Africa' is actually a mischievous concept, in that it leads to us associating the southern shore of the Mediterranean, not with the other shores, but with the black part -- which on the other side of the Sahara.

    In almost every sense of the word, the Sahara is a far more formidable barrier than the Mediterranean.

    To put it differently, 'Tunisia,' for example, is part of this set: Spain, Greece, Turkey, Palestine. It is not part of this set: Senegal, Eritrea, Tanzania, Angola.

  76. @Kolya Krassotkin
    With his predilection for cutting to the chase, I can only imagine how Edward I, Bruce's English rival, would have refered to (and dealt with) the BLM marauders.

    Replies: @David In TN

    “With his predilection for cutting to the chase, I an only imagine how Edward I, Bruce’s English rival, would have referred to (and dealt with) the BLM marauders.”

    See the next to last scene in “Braveheart (1995)” for what Edward I did to people who caused him trouble.

    Actually Robert Bruce defeated Edward II’s forces at Bannockburn.

    • Replies: @anon
    @David In TN

    There is a Netflix vid about Robert the Bruce called "Outlaw King". It's a passable telling which means it contains some treachery and violence that is brutally graphic, as the politics of that day were. There are flaws but it is faithful enough to the history.

    As was the custom, the English king Edward I "Longshanks" sent body parts of William Wallace to be displayed in various parts of the realm. An early scene in "Outlaw King" shows this and the reaction. Safe for work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDjYWIkF7r0

    In time a Scots army was gathered and dispersed and beaten and nearly wiped out and revived again. It is a good story. It is a worthy story. In time the Scots were able to ambush and defeat English forces, including armored knights. English forces were hunting the Bruce, but could not quite come to grips with him. Then he chose a place himself.

    https://restishistory.blog/2018/11/14/the-battle-of-loudoun-hill-robert-the-bruces-turning-fortunes/

    At Loudon Hill, the Bruce and his tiny army of 500 to 600 mostly militia stood their ground to fight the English force of 3,000, many of them heavily armed and armored knights. The Bruce had learned from bitter failure to choose ground with care. Here was a narrow boggy area with one road through it. By modifying even that approach, the Scots funneled the English into a narrow patch of ground that had fatal results for many of them.


    Bruce took the opportunity of the challenge to prepare his ground, cutting three ditches inward from the edge of the bogs, leaving 90 metre gaps in the centre which were to be guarded by dismounted pikemen, while soil embankments with ditches protected the flanks. This forced the English to approach through the narrow front created by their opponents, restricting their movements and deployment capabilities effectively neutralising their numerical advantage. It was reminiscent of William Wallace’s great victory at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, with the same filtering effect at work.
     
    Contrasting speeches in the movie at Loudin Hill. First, the English lord Aymer de Valence addresses his knights and men.

    Then Robert the Bruce speaks to a gang of deplorable militia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=104FfuVcZwU

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit.
    Perhaps they could learn from 10,000 hours of community service digging peat.

    Replies: @David In TN, @S. Anonyia

  77. @Jonathan Mason

    I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.
     
    Well, Vandals deserves a capital letter. The Vandals originated in Poland and then moved southwards when they were displaced by the Huns, and eventually established a kingdom in Africa, as well as having a strong presence in Spain and sacked the city of Rome in 455.

    Using their name as a synonym for hooligans is a gross racist slander on these proud warriors, but Robert The Bruce has no need to apologize to them.

    Bruce drew his inspiration from a spider.

    At one point Robert the Bruce was forced into hiding after Edward I of England invaded. There is a famous legend that when his spirits were at a particularly low point Robert took refuge in a cave. There, he watched as a spider tried over and over again to build her web before eventually succeeding. This is said to have inspired Robert to carry on fighting the English. He did so, and after the death of Edward I in 1307, he went on to defeat Edward II's forces at Battle of Bannockburn on 24 June 1314. This was a significant Scottish victory in the First War of Scottish Independence. The part that a humble spider played in this landmark in Scottish history remains the stuff of legend.

    https://www.transceltic.com/blog/legend-of-robert-bruce-and-spider#:~:text=Legend%20of%20Robert%20the%20Bruce%20and%20the%20spider.,King%20of%20Scots%20until%20his%20death%20in%201329.

    https://www.transceltic.com/sites/default/files/robert_the_bruce_0.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @David In TN, @ChrisZ

    I remember reading the legend of Robert Bruce and the spider when I was seven years old.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @David In TN

    So do I. We must have read the same book.

    I probably knew the date of the Battle of Bannockburn at the age of 8. The way to remember it was Bannockburn 1314, Agincourt 1415, Waterloo 1815.

    Then, of course Hastings in 1066, which was easy to remember because that is when the dynasty of Norman kings replaced the Saxons and brought in lots of French words, so that by the time of Chaucer (died 1400) we more or less had something recognizable as modern English, whereas Anglo Saxon, which went before, looks more like German.

    Another good one to remember after 1066 is 1588 when the British Navy saw off the Spanish Armada in one of the greatest days in British history until Liverpool saw off Barcelona FC 4-0 on May 8th, 2019, handing the Spaniards yet another crushing defeat against the odds.

    History basically started when Julius Caesar made a sortie to England in 55 BC and then returned in 54 BC to do a proper invasion. Anything before that is not history, but Classics.

    Columbus was a foreigner, but anyway in 1492 he sailed the ocean blue and failed to discover America or the Pacific, though he did eventually cruise along the coast of Panama and got within 20 miles of the Pacific, which was eventually discovered by:

    ... stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star'd at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
    [Milton, J., 1667]

    That was long before the Great Fire of London, when, in sixteen hundred and sixty six, the city of London was burned to sticks.

    (Of course it would have been more accurate to say it was reduced to charcoal, but it wouldn't have rhymed.)

    Guy Fawkes's plot to blow up Parliament is recalled by Remember, Remember the Fifth of November.

    The dates of World War II are easy to remember, 1939 to 1945, but if you were educated in the US, you may have learned 1941 to 1945, as the US joined in on December 8th of that year and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.

    And that is really all I ever learned in history in school. What else would you need to know?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux

  78. @Forbes
    @S. Anonyia

    My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what's usually called an "olive" skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.

    Feelings matter, facts don't.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Colin Wright

    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.

    I’ve heard the Sahara described topographically and historically as an enormous sea of sand. It really ought to be thought of in that way – as a veritably impassable sea dividing Africa into two until recent times.

    Even with camels, to travel into the vast Sahara was certain death.

  79. A science fiction novel needs to restrain itself to some extent.

    One can only suspend disbelief so far; try to make the plot devices more plausible.

  80. @Forbes
    @S. Anonyia

    My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what's usually called an "olive" skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.

    Feelings matter, facts don't.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Colin Wright

    ‘My personal experience with Egyptians is that they have what’s usually called an “olive” skin tone, not unlike other Mediterranean peoples, whether from North Africa or Southern Europe, and generally considered white people.

    ‘That big expanse of desert known as the Sahara seems to have kept black Africa separate from North Africa for eons of evolutionary history. Few today seem to notice this geographical detail.’

    ‘Africa’ is actually a mischievous concept, in that it leads to us associating the southern shore of the Mediterranean, not with the other shores, but with the black part — which on the other side of the Sahara.

    In almost every sense of the word, the Sahara is a far more formidable barrier than the Mediterranean.

    To put it differently, ‘Tunisia,’ for example, is part of this set: Spain, Greece, Turkey, Palestine. It is not part of this set: Senegal, Eritrea, Tanzania, Angola.

  81. @Daniel H
    Maybe some of the Muslims in Spain looked like the above, but others likely looked liked Berber-French soccer all-time great Zinedine Zidane, who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

    Dario Fernandez-Morera in The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise... makes the case that it was common practice for the emirs of Muslim Medieval Spain - as it was for the Ottomans with Slavic women - to take Spanish slave women and even other Christian slave women from further afar (Slavic lands, Byzantine lands) as concubines and wives. The children of such liaisons were brought up as Muslims and became emirs or hidalgo emirs. This went on for generations, and was compounded so that after a few hundred years the Muslims of Spain were in many cases indistinguishable from the Christians of Spain. If one searches around on the internet one can find painted medieval and late medieval representations of Spanish Muslims that portray the Muslims as variously colored: brown haired, red haired, blonde...

    Replies: @Colin Wright


    Dario Fernandez-Morera in The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise… makes the case that it was common practice for the emirs of Muslim Medieval Spain – as it was for the Ottomans with Slavic women – to take Spanish slave women and even other Christian slave women from further afar (Slavic lands, Byzantine lands) as concubines and wives. The children of such liaisons were brought up as Muslims and became emirs or hidalgo emirs. This went on for generations, and was compounded so that after a few hundred years the Muslims of Spain were in many cases indistinguishable from the Christians of Spain. If one searches around on the internet one can find painted medieval and late medieval representations of Spanish Muslims that portray the Muslims as variously colored: brown haired, red haired, blonde…’

    Of course. This happens with everybody. That’s one of several reasons why the notion that Jews are completely distinct from the gentiles of their various former homelands is the most obvious nonsense.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Colin Wright

    Hell, even Prophet Mohamed is said to have White skin (from an Arab perspective White skin from an European perspective may have meant light/fair skin).

    Sahih Muslim 4:1208
    'Amir b. Sa'd reported: I saw the Messenger of Allah (may peace be open him) pronouncing taslim on his right and on his left till I saw the whiteness of his cheek.

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:991
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud: The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to give the salutation to his left and right sides until the whiteness of his cheek was seen, (saying: "Peace be upon you, and mercy of Allah" twice. AbuDawud said: This is a version of the tradition reported by AbuSufyan. The version of Isra'il did not explain it. AbuDawud said: This tradition has been narrated by Zubayr from AbuIshaq and Yahya ibn Adam from Isra'il from AbuIshaq from AbdurRahman ibn al-Aswad from his father from Alqamah on the authority of Abdullah ibn Mas'ud. AbuDawud said: Shu'bah used to reject this tradition, the tradition narrated by AbuIshaq as coming from the Prophet (peace be upon him).

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:1002
    Narrated Al-Azraq ibn Qays: An imam of ours, whose kunyah (surname) was AbuRimthah, led us in prayer and said: I prayed this prayer, or one like it, with the Prophet (peace be upon him). AbuBakr and Umar were standing in the front row on his right and there was a man who had been present at the first takbir in the prayer. The Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) offered the prayer, then gave the salutation to his right and his left so that we saw the whiteness of his cheeks, then turned away as AbuRimthah (meaning himself) had done. The man who has been present with him at the first takbir in the prayer then got up to pray another prayer, whereupon Umar leaped up and, seizing him by the shoulders, shook him and said: Sit down, for the People of the Book perished for no other reason than that there was no interval between their prayers. The Prophet (peace be upon him) raised his eyes and said: Allah has made you say what is right, son of al-Khattab.


    Chapter 26 of Sahih Muslim on the USC-MSA website is entitled,

    Chapter 26: ALLAH'S MESSENGER (MAY PEACE AE UPON HIM) HAD A WHITE ELEGANT FACE[1]
    Jurairi reported: I said to Abu Tufail: Did you see Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him)? He said: Yes, he had a white handsome face. Muslim b. Hajjaj said: Abu Tufail who died in 100 Hijra was the last of the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him).
    Sahih Muslim 30:5777, See Also Sahih Muslim 30:5786

    Sahih Bukhari 1:3:63
    Narrated Anas bin Malik: While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib."...

    Sahih Bukhari 2:17:122
    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Dinar: My father said, "I heard Ibn 'Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib: And a white (person) (i.e. the Prophet) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows." Salim's father (Ibn 'Umar) said, "The following poetic verse occurred to my mind while I was looking at the face of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) while he was praying for rain. He did not get down till the rain water flowed profusely from every roof-g utter: And a white (person) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows . . . And these were the words of Abu Talib."

    Narrated Isma'il bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, "I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin 'Ali resembled him." I said to Abu- Juhaifa, "Describe him for me." He said, "He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them."

    Sahih Bukhari 4:56:744
    Abu Tufail reported: I saw Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there is one amongst the people of the earth who (are living at the present time and) had seen him except me. I said to him: How did you find him? He said: He had an elegant white color, and he was of an average height.

    Sahih Bukhari 4:56:767
    Narrated Abu Juhaifa: By chance I went to the Prophet at noon while he was at Al-Abtah (resting) in a tent. Bilal came out (of the tent) and pronounced the Adhan for the prayer, and entering again, he brought out the water which was left after Allah's Apostle had performed the ablution. The people rushed to take some of the water. Bilal again went in and brought out a spear-headed stick, and then Allah's Apostle came out. As if I were now looking at the whiteness of his leg. Bilal fixed the stick and the Prophet offered a two-Rakat Zuhr prayer and a two-Rak'at 'Asr prayer, while women and donkeys were passing in front of the Prophet (beyond the stick).

    Sahih Muslim 8:3325
    Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) set out on an expedition to Khaibar and we observed our morning prayer in early hours of the dawn. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) then mounted and so did Abu Talha ride, and I was seating myself behind Abu Talha. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) moved in the narrow street of Khaibar (and we rode so close to each other in the street) that my knee touched the leg of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him). (A part of the) lower garment of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) slipped from his leg and I could see the whiteness of the leg of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him). As he entered the habitation he called: Allah-o-Akbar (Allah is the Greatest)...

    Sahih Bukhari 1:8:367, See Also Sahih Muslim 19.4437:1
    Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined...

    Sahih Muslim 4:1014
    Abu Juhaifa reported it on the authority of his father: I came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) in Mecca and he was (at that time) at al- Abtah in a red leather tent. And Bilal stepped out with ablution water for him. (And what was left out of that water) some of them got it (whereas others could not get it) and (those who got it) rubbed themselves with it. Then the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stepped out with a red mantle on him and I was catching a glimpse of the whiteness of his shanks. The narrator said: He (the Holy Prophet) performed the ablution...

    Sunan Abu Dawud 20:3200
    Narrated Al-Muttalib: When Uthman ibn Maz'un died, he was brought out on his bier and buried. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered a man to bring him a stone, but he was unable to carry it. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) got up and going over to it rolled up his sleeves. The narrator Kathir told that al-Muttalib remarked: The one who told me about the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: I still seem to see the whiteness of the forearms of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) when he rolled up his sleeves. He then carried it and placed it at his head saying: I am marking my brother's grave with it, and I shall bury beside him those of my family who die.


    Narrated Abu Humaid As-Sa'idi: Allah's Apostle employed an employee (to collect Zakat). The employee returned after completing his job and said, "O Allah's Apostle! This (amount of Zakat) is for you, and this (other amount) was given to me as a present." The Prophet said to him, "Why didn't you stay at your father's or mother's house and see if you would be given presents or not?" Then Allah's Apostle got up in the evening after the prayer, and having testified that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and praised and glorified Allah as He deserved, he said, "Now then ! What about an employee whom we employ and then he comes and says, 'This amount (of Zakat) is for you, and this (amount) was given to me as a present'? Why didn't he stay at the house of his father and mother to see if he would be given presents or not? By Him in Whose Hand Muhammad's soul is, none of you will steal anything of it (i.e. Zakat) but will bring it by carrying it over his neck on the Day of Resurrection. If it has been a camel, he will bring it (over his neck) while it will be grunting, and if it has been a cow, he will bring it (over his neck), while it will be mooing; and if it has been a sheep, he will bring it (over his neck) while it will be bleeding." The Prophet added, "I have preached you (Allah's Message)." Abu Humaid said, "Then Allah's Apostle raised his hands so high that we saw the whiteness of his armpits."
    Sahih Bukhari 8:78:631, See Also Sahih Bukhari 9.086.108:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 9.089.286:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 9.089.305:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 3.047.769:1:1, Sahih Muslim 20.4511:1, Sahih Muslim 20.4509:1

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Malik: Ibn Buhaina, "When the Prophet prayed, he used to separate his arms from his body so widely that the whiteness of his armpits was visible."
    Sahih Bukhari 1:8:385u, See Also Sahih Bukhari 2:17:141, Sahih Bukhari 1:12:771, Sahih Bukhari 4:56:765, Sahih Bukhari 4:56:766, Sahih Bukhari 8:75:392, Sahih Muslim 4:1000, Sahih Muslim 4:1001, Sahih Muslim 4:1003, Sahih Muslim 4:1004, Sahih Muslim 4:1951, Sahih Muslim 4:1953

    Narrated Abu Musa: When the Prophet had finished from the battle of Hunain, he sent Abu Amir at the head of an army to Autas He (i.e. Abu Amir) met Duraid bin As Summa and Duraid was killed and Allah defeated his companions. The Prophet sent me with Abu 'Amir. Abu Amir was shot at his knee with an arrow which a man from Jushm had shot and fixed into his knee. I went to him and said, "O Uncle! Who shot you?" He pointed me out (his killer) saying, "That is my killer who shot me (with an arrow)." So I headed towards him and overtook him, and when he saw me, he fled, and I followed him and started saying to him, "Won't you be ashamed? Won't you stop?" So that person stopped, and we exchanged two hits with the swords and I killed him. Then I said to Abu 'Amir. "Allah has killed your killer." He said, "Take out this arrow" So I removed it, and water oozed out of the wound. He then said, "O son of my brother! Convey my compliments to the Prophet and request him to ask Allah's Forgiveness for me." Abu Amir made me his successor in commanding the people (i.e. troops). He survived for a short while and then died. (Later) I returned and entered upon the Prophet at his house, and found him lying in a bed made of stalks of date-palm leaves knitted with ropes, and on it there was bedding. The strings of the bed had their traces over his back and sides. Then I told the Prophet about our and Abu Amir's news and how he had said "Tell him to ask for Allah's Forgiveness for me." The Prophet asked for water, performed ablution and then raised hands, saying, "O Allah's Forgive 'Ubaid, Abu Amir." At that time I saw the whiteness of the Prophet's armpits. The Prophet then said, "O Allah, make him (i.e. Abu Amir) on the Day of Resurrection, superior to many of Your human creatures." I said, "Will you ask Allah's Forgiveness for me?" (On that) the Prophet said, "O Allah, forgive the sins of 'Abdullah bin Qais and admit him to a nice entrance (i.e. paradise) on the Day of Resurrection." Abu Burda said, "One of the prayers was for Abu 'Amir and the other was for Abu Musa (i.e. 'Abdullah bin Qais)."
    Sahih Bukhari 5:59:612, See Also Sahih Muslim 31:6092, Sahih Muslim 31:6092

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:898
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: I came to the Prophet (peace be upon him) from behind. I saw the whiteness of his armpits and he kept his arms away from his sides and raised his stomach (from the ground).


    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:1169
    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The people complained to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) of the lack of rain, so he gave an order for a pulpit. It was then set up for him in the place of prayer. He fixed a day for the people on which they should come out. Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), when the rim of the sun appeared, sat down on the pulpit, and having pronounced the greatness of Allah and expressed His praise, he said: You have complained of drought in your homes, and of the delay in receiving rain at the beginning of its season. Allah has ordered you to supplicate Him has and promised that He will answer your prayer. Then he said: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Universe, the Compassionate, the Merciful, the Master of the Day of Judgment. There is no god but Allah Who does what He wishes. O Allah, Thou art Allah, there is no deity but Thou, the Rich, while we are the poor. Send down the rain upon us and make what Thou sendest down a strength and satisfaction for a time. He then raised his hands, and kept raising them till the whiteness under his armpits was visible. He then turned his back to the people and inverted or turned round his cloak while keeping his hands aloft. He then faced the people, descended and prayed two rak'ahs. Allah then produced a cloud, and the storm of thunder and lightning came on. Then the rain fell by Allah's permission, and before he reached his mosque streams were flowing. When he saw the speed with which the people were seeking shelter, he (peace be upon him) laughed till his back teeth were visible. Then he said: I testify that Allah is Omnipotent and that I am Allah's servant and apostle.


    Narrated Al-Bara' bin 'Azib: The Prophet was carrying earth with us on the day of the battle of Al-Ahzab (confederates) and I saw that the dust was covering the whiteness of his abdomen, and he (the Prophet ) was saying, "(O Allah) ! Without You, we would not have been guided, nor would we have given in charity, nor would we have prayed. So (O Allah!) please send tranquility (Sakina) upon us as they, (the chiefs of the enemy tribes) have rebelled against us. And if they intend affliction (i.e. want to frighten us and fight against us) then we would not (flee but withstand them). And the Prophet used to raise his voice with it. (See Hadith No. 430 and 432, Vol. 5)
    Sahih Bukhari 9:90:342, See Also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:90

    Sahih Muslim 19:4442
    It has been reported on the authority of Barra' who said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was carrying the earth with us on the Day of Ahzab and the whiteness of his belly had been covered with earth. (While engaged in this toil) he was reciting:......

  82. @RichardTaylor
    Scotland's history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

    But seriously, the cuckish nature of so many White people is shocking. It's mainly localized in the "elite" class and among the Really Smart set.

    Most of the White working class and probably half the middle class would tell them to "f**k off and die" to their face.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt, @BB753, @Amerimutt Golems

    Scotland’s history of slavery led to this. They had huge plantations full of Blacks.

    I mentioned a while back on UR Glasgow University’s £20 million pledge because of past links to slavery.

    Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible.

    I don’t see a political solution as they dominate the culture.

  83. @Forbes
    @Gordo

    Are black Scots anything like, or resemble, black Irish?

    Asking for a friend...

    Replies: @Cortes, @Gordo

    The name “Dougal” seems to mean “black foreigner/stranger” and the MacDougall clan of Argyll descends from Somerled (the “Donald” of the MacDonalds). Dougal is also the name of the dimwit young priest in Craggy Island in the Ireland of “Fr. Ted”.

    Sir James Douglas was known to the English of the day as “Black Douglas” for his actions against them. To his compatriots he was “Good Sir James”.

    J.K. Galbraith (I think) mentioned about the fear Scots Canadians of Gaelic background had of being landed with damaging nicknames since they tended to carry over to successive generations. Looking at a name like “MacLeod” (“son of ugly”) one can understand the fear.

  84. According to anthropologist Edward Dutton most self-identified liberals who support things like multiculturalism are essentially mentally unstable religious zealots and consequently intolerant of different beliefs or opinions.

    He also claims BLM is a religious revival for the unhinged and the trigger was COVID-19. Below is the 34 minute video. The BLM part starts after 23:41.

  85. To deface this statue is simply barbaric. I hope England and Scotland turns their back on the barbaric BLM creeps and throw them out of the country altogether or just throw them in jail for vandalism….and THEN throw them out of the country. There WAS NO reason to do this to Scotland’s HERO. Robert had nothing to do with slavery or blacks and the present cops. Goes to show you how insidious this BLM BS really is.

  86. @Jonathan Mason

    I’m sure Robert the Bruce would be proud to see how his spirit lives on today’s Scots, whose first impulse upon having their national hero insulted is to apologize to the vandals.
     
    Well, Vandals deserves a capital letter. The Vandals originated in Poland and then moved southwards when they were displaced by the Huns, and eventually established a kingdom in Africa, as well as having a strong presence in Spain and sacked the city of Rome in 455.

    Using their name as a synonym for hooligans is a gross racist slander on these proud warriors, but Robert The Bruce has no need to apologize to them.

    Bruce drew his inspiration from a spider.

    At one point Robert the Bruce was forced into hiding after Edward I of England invaded. There is a famous legend that when his spirits were at a particularly low point Robert took refuge in a cave. There, he watched as a spider tried over and over again to build her web before eventually succeeding. This is said to have inspired Robert to carry on fighting the English. He did so, and after the death of Edward I in 1307, he went on to defeat Edward II's forces at Battle of Bannockburn on 24 June 1314. This was a significant Scottish victory in the First War of Scottish Independence. The part that a humble spider played in this landmark in Scottish history remains the stuff of legend.

    https://www.transceltic.com/blog/legend-of-robert-bruce-and-spider#:~:text=Legend%20of%20Robert%20the%20Bruce%20and%20the%20spider.,King%20of%20Scots%20until%20his%20death%20in%201329.

    https://www.transceltic.com/sites/default/files/robert_the_bruce_0.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @David In TN, @ChrisZ

    Enjoyable comment, story, and image, Jonathan. Thanks.

    BTW, I’m waiting for The Bruce to be cancelled as a gay basher for humiliating England’s Edward II.

  87. @Reg Cæsar
    If this gets Bruce Springsteen off the convenience-store Muzak loop, then some good will come of it. I was subjected to "Dancing in the Dark" each of the last two afternoons.

    Sadly, it wasn't this one:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8eAIbT5Ew

    Replies: @AnonymousMillenial, @JMcG, @Kyle

    I’ve been waiting for 1975-1982 boomer rock to die from the air waves for the past 20 years. It won’t die.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Kyle


    I’ve been waiting for 1975-1982 boomer rock to die from the air waves for the past 20 years. It won’t die.
     
    As bad as that was, there is one compensation: everything that came after is even worse. In 20 years, you'll pour your machine cappuccino at the quick-stop under a barrage of hip hop.

    At least Dancing Queen and Cruel to be Kind are songs. You can play them on a uke.

  88. My sister’s genealogy research indicates that I am a distant descendant of Robert the Bruce. So this is personal!

    Whose statue do I get to tear down in retaliation? In the true Scots manner.

  89. So he was racist because he fought black troops, even though the fight wasn’t about race and he would have fought white troops in the same cause. Whatever you think about expelling political control by Islam from Europe forcefully, it was not racist. Nobody in the Crusades cared about the skin color of the infidel, on either side. Nobody was whiter than the Scandanavians and they got a crusade against them, albeit for being pagan not Muslim.

  90. @Twinkie
    1. I don’t use this term very often, but this whole reply is retarded.

    2. Wasn’t Robert de Brus Norman in family origin? Why are Scots celebrating the scion of one conqueror defeating another for the throne of their country? ;)

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Wasn’t Robert de Brus Norman in family origin?”

    Indeed.

    And guess where William de Walys (Wallace) family origins were?

    • Agree: Twinkie
  91. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @David In TN
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    "With his predilection for cutting to the chase, I an only imagine how Edward I, Bruce's English rival, would have referred to (and dealt with) the BLM marauders."

    See the next to last scene in "Braveheart (1995)" for what Edward I did to people who caused him trouble.

    Actually Robert Bruce defeated Edward II's forces at Bannockburn.

    Replies: @anon

    There is a Netflix vid about Robert the Bruce called “Outlaw King”. It’s a passable telling which means it contains some treachery and violence that is brutally graphic, as the politics of that day were. There are flaws but it is faithful enough to the history.

    As was the custom, the English king Edward I “Longshanks” sent body parts of William Wallace to be displayed in various parts of the realm. An early scene in “Outlaw King” shows this and the reaction. Safe for work.

    In time a Scots army was gathered and dispersed and beaten and nearly wiped out and revived again. It is a good story. It is a worthy story. In time the Scots were able to ambush and defeat English forces, including armored knights. English forces were hunting the Bruce, but could not quite come to grips with him. Then he chose a place himself.

    https://restishistory.blog/2018/11/14/the-battle-of-loudoun-hill-robert-the-bruces-turning-fortunes/

    At Loudon Hill, the Bruce and his tiny army of 500 to 600 mostly militia stood their ground to fight the English force of 3,000, many of them heavily armed and armored knights. The Bruce had learned from bitter failure to choose ground with care. Here was a narrow boggy area with one road through it. By modifying even that approach, the Scots funneled the English into a narrow patch of ground that had fatal results for many of them.

    Bruce took the opportunity of the challenge to prepare his ground, cutting three ditches inward from the edge of the bogs, leaving 90 metre gaps in the centre which were to be guarded by dismounted pikemen, while soil embankments with ditches protected the flanks. This forced the English to approach through the narrow front created by their opponents, restricting their movements and deployment capabilities effectively neutralising their numerical advantage. It was reminiscent of William Wallace’s great victory at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, with the same filtering effect at work.

    Contrasting speeches in the movie at Loudin Hill. First, the English lord Aymer de Valence addresses his knights and men.

    Then Robert the Bruce speaks to a gang of deplorable militia.

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit.
    Perhaps they could learn from 10,000 hours of community service digging peat.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @anon

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit."

    I am of Scottish ancestry. I fully agree. My contempt for the prissy snowflakes is equal to yours.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @anon

    Not a bad movie but (per usual for the genre) it made the common mistake of portraying medieval people as dour and stoic. Half their calendar year was taken up by various feasts/festivals, so they probably far more chatty and consistently buzzed than their descendants.

  92. @Thomm
    Ironically, what Edward Longshanks said about Scots was pretty similar to what modern-day WNs say about blacks.

    But this is silly. It is probable that Robert the Bruce never even saw a black person in his life, or even had a somewhat accurate world map that indicated where Sub-Saharan Africa even was.

    Moorish monarchs in Al-Andalus certainly were not black. Their substantial interbreeding with local Europeans proves this. 15-20% of the genotype of Spaniards today indicates ancestry from Morocco and Algeria. But no Spaniards appear to be quatroons or octoroons.


    Maybe this is one of those old “The wogs begin at Calais” things where old time Scots saw the French as “black” and they weren’t too sure about the English for that matter.
     
    Heh. This is the sort of fact that makes Ron Unz have a fit. He is comically ignorant about this sort of thing. Nothing bugs him more than the fact that most WNs on this website don't consider Jews to be white (try it out on him, and see; great fun can be had).

    who looks like Yul Brynner’s 100% Teutonic cousin.

     

    Yul Brynner was actually a Tatar, btw, indicative of substantial Mongol ancestry. This is obvious.

    Replies: @OP, @Dicentim

    No one knows for sure what ethnicities and backgrounds Yul Brynner had as he had made quite a few claims regarding that and he came from a time and place where all those claims could be true or false; if I were to put money on any, I’d say that it was the same as Charlie Chaplin’s, that is when I figure that one out…

    As for Zidane; he has become a poster boy for showing how White North Africa is, and it is true that to me his appearance and life choices make him a European. To be honest, unlike many here with whom I share certain views, I don’t care much about physical appearance and I accept people who genuinely embrace values that I consider to be mine, but for the sake of being academically objective, I must note that presently only a minority of North Africans look as European as Zidane and they are more concentrated among certain ethnic groups that claim to have been the original inhabitants of that land; they are usually called Berbers, but the truth is that it is an appelation that covers the speakers of Berber languages, some of whom, like the Kabyles, Riffans and Chaouis look White or Mediterranean, while some like the Tuaregs look predominantly Black; it is easy to understand that processes similar to those that led the English and Spanish languages to be spoken by people of different races around the world, must have taken place earlier with the spread of the Berber and later Arab languages in North Africa. So the point to take home is that Berber is not a race but a group of languages and that they are spoken by different ethnic groups that each should be seen as its own thing.

    Besides that, a majority (if statistics can be trusted) of North Africans do not speak Berber but local dialects of Arabic and generally identify either with the regions or countries that they inhabit or as Arab (usually vis a vis their Berber neighbours), nevertheless, most are not descended from Middle Eastern Arabs but are the result of language adoption and certain mixing mainly among ethnicities already inhabiting North Africa during the Arab conquest, to which some Iberian expellees, Arabs, Turks and slaves (both Black and European) were added.

    Finally, a lot of North Africans both at home and in Europe call themselves Arab because of religion and because the French called them so.

    • Replies: @Ano4
    @Dicentim

    Absolutely correct. The Maghreb was a melting pot of different ethnic lineages since times immemorial.



    A thing is certain: the majority of the male population there are currently of Y haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215/E-M35).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)

    Y haplogroup E1b1b is sometimes named the Mediterranean modal haplogroup because it's different clades which originated in the Horn of Africa around the Mesolithic are also present all around the Mediterranean sea to various degrees with the highest proportion in Europe being found among Albanians and Greeks.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml

    The North African haplogroup E is directly related to the first neolithic sedentary agriculturalists of the Middle East (the Natufian Culture), it is found among the native ancestral populations of pred-dynastic Egypt and is also clearly correlated with both the proto-Berber populations of the Capsian culture and the remaining male population of Guanche descent in the Canarias.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsian_culture

    https://www.britannica.com/place/ancient-Egypt/The-Predynastic-and-Early-Dynastic-periods

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

    http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/north-african-origin-guanches-05369.html

    To summarize: Berbers are the descendants of the first neolithic agriculturalists that spread on both sides of Mediterranean sea and the Sahara desert. Some of these neolithic populations have reached Wester Europe, while other reached Canary islands. Along the way these populations have admixed with the local hunters gatherers (Ibero-Mauresian European Cro-Magnon populations in the Iberian peninsula and Extreme Maghreb are one of these hunter gatherer cultures). Berbers are not a Race, but the vast majority of them belong to a very ancient genetic lineage.

    On the picture below the four tatooed gentlemen with ostrich feathers in their hair are the ancient Berbers, the other three gentlemen on their right are a Nubian, a Semite and an Egyptian. This is a representation from a wall painting date to the Egyptian 19 dynasty.

    https://dailyhistory.org/images/thumb/3/36/Libyans.jpg/300px-Libyans.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:228x94/rscb1/ng:webp/ngcb1

    Replies: @Ano4

  93. @David In TN
    @Jonathan Mason

    I remember reading the legend of Robert Bruce and the spider when I was seven years old.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    So do I. We must have read the same book.

    I probably knew the date of the Battle of Bannockburn at the age of 8. The way to remember it was Bannockburn 1314, Agincourt 1415, Waterloo 1815.

    Then, of course Hastings in 1066, which was easy to remember because that is when the dynasty of Norman kings replaced the Saxons and brought in lots of French words, so that by the time of Chaucer (died 1400) we more or less had something recognizable as modern English, whereas Anglo Saxon, which went before, looks more like German.

    Another good one to remember after 1066 is 1588 when the British Navy saw off the Spanish Armada in one of the greatest days in British history until Liverpool saw off Barcelona FC 4-0 on May 8th, 2019, handing the Spaniards yet another crushing defeat against the odds.

    History basically started when Julius Caesar made a sortie to England in 55 BC and then returned in 54 BC to do a proper invasion. Anything before that is not history, but Classics.

    Columbus was a foreigner, but anyway in 1492 he sailed the ocean blue and failed to discover America or the Pacific, though he did eventually cruise along the coast of Panama and got within 20 miles of the Pacific, which was eventually discovered by:

    … stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star’d at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look’d at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
    [Milton, J., 1667]

    That was long before the Great Fire of London, when, in sixteen hundred and sixty six, the city of London was burned to sticks.

    (Of course it would have been more accurate to say it was reduced to charcoal, but it wouldn’t have rhymed.)

    Guy Fawkes’s plot to blow up Parliament is recalled by Remember, Remember the Fifth of November.

    The dates of World War II are easy to remember, 1939 to 1945, but if you were educated in the US, you may have learned 1941 to 1945, as the US joined in on December 8th of that year and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.

    And that is really all I ever learned in history in school. What else would you need to know?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jonathan Mason


    ...and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.
     
    By the American people but definitely not by our leaders.
    , @syonredux
    @Jonathan Mason


    … stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star’d at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look’d at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien. [Milton, J., 1667]
     
    The lines are from John Keats' "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer ".....

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  94. @El Dato
    Boss Fight Music Abates!

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1278300021067112448

    https://i.postimg.cc/MpBntrCj/Boss-fight-music-abates.png

    Replies: @anon

    She sees street anarchy as “democracy”. What an insult. Democracy means civil discourse, voting, majority rule, rule of law.
    Street anarchy is an attack on democracy. The thug with the biggest muscles rules, as was proven in CHOP.

  95. @El Dato

    the Scots intention had been to do battle ‘against Saracens’.”
     
    An intention that can never be forbidden!


    It was important that black visitors to the Battle of Bannockburn Visitor Centre felt ‘safe and welcome’, the statement continued.

    “The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.” …
     
    Well, if black slavery inviting reparations and whitey taking the knee (not up the arse, sadly) existed in places where no negro ever set foot until the advent of tramp steamers and cheap air travel, I suppose a Purely Scottish Historic Event against ethnicity that had not qualms about slavery makes blacks feel racistically threatened by museums these days.

    Seriously, when can we start this Boogaloo thing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4GJaE13gw

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Steve,
    I think you’ve traditionally had a policy against calls for violence. As I posted once before, I’m not sure if “Boogaloo Boys” is a real but overhyped thing or a fiction meant to be used for gaslighting. Whichever is the case, according to the official narrative, calls to get the boogaloo started are calls for starting civil war. Even used ironically, they may not be interpreted as jokes. Something to keep in mind.

  96. There was a time when I wanted to see my ancestors’ homeland, but not anymore. It’s now that’s the last place in the world I’d want to visit. The Scots have become the world’s #1 wimpy fags. You could pretty much see indications of that when the people of Scottish ancestry in the Falkland Islands ran away screaming when the Argentinians invaded. It seems like the English generally have more balls than the Scots, nowadays, and that’s a pretty low bar.

    Oh, and scotch whisky sucks unless you pay $100 or more a bottle. The Scots vibe is kind of upscale “manliness” for everyone from metrosexuals down to faggots. I no longer give a rat’s ass about Scottish ancestry, but find much greater honor in my New World Scots-Irish ancestry in Appalachia and Canada.

  97. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:

    All Confederate statues in Richmond are coming down today by order of the (black) mayor.
    To my knowledge there has been zero response from southern whites to the destruction of Confederate statues.
    Tens of millions of whites across the south, many of whom must be bothered by this, not saying a word.
    No organizations of any kind objecting to the removals.
    The censorship and silence is oppressive. I keep thinking some outrage and reaction must be building in whites in the south and will find an outlet. But then I realize all that outrage can just as easily dissolve in frustration and resignation.
    Unz commentors should pay attention to the reaction, or lack of it, from southern whites. They’ve had the reputation throughout our history of being the most prideful and violent whites in America. If southern whites have lost their balls it’s not likely whites anywhere else will be different.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    I would guess the 'outrage' is primarily directed at the usual suspects in the Northeast responsible for inciting this mayhem. And if there's a 'reaction' it will be directed against these people, not BLM. I'm not talking about Jews either.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @anon

    Suburban moderately conservative Southern whites (people like my parents and relatives) are doing well economically and don’t want to risk their jobs. Southerners care about money above all. Plus, we aren’t as attached to the Confederacy as people think. Though everyone WAS mad about the Gone With the Wind removal.

    Only the poor whites in the upper South really care about their rebel flags and heroes, the ones ironically not at all connected to the planter elite. But they are powerless and essentially voiceless in 2020 America.

    Also many of the young affluent suburban southerners who were brought up evangelical are now pretty liberal. Turns out evangelical religion “all about the feels” makes you pretty pliable to any ideology. They’ve replaced their childhood religion with a new one. They are among the crowds in places like Nashville, Richmond, and Atlanta.

    I traveled to the Midwest recently and it honestly seemed more culturally conservative (and less sophisticated in terms of style, food) than the South. Not bad or good- just was.

    Pay attention to the part of the South where there is the least amount of statue destruction/removal- Florida, the Gulf Coast, and Louisiana? Why- those areas were founded by Catholics and shaped by Catholic mores even if they aren’t majority Catholic today, they had a better relationship with blacks historically, and have something of the “Latin” attitude towards race. Less white guilt, and also less anger from the black community since there was a tad more flexibility during Jim Crow (although there was certainly still segregation).

  98. @Abe
    Wikipedia is wonderful. Marvelous. You start browsing one thing and then never know where you’ll end up. Last week I ran across these guys- Saints Cosmas and Damian, Christian martyr brothers from the 3rd Century who are big in the Orthodox Christian tradition for having been “silver-less” physicians- i.e. doctors who cured for no payment:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Cosmas_and_Damian

    2 wonderful fellows- wait, breaking news!- they harvested parts from Black Bodies to cure wyppo? Cancel the devils!

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Beinwunder_Cosmas_und_Damian.jpg

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    It looks like they’re building the Six Million Denarii Man–one who should be good at basketball….

  99. It was important that black visitors to the Battle of Bannockburn Visitor Centre felt ‘safe and welcome’, the statement continued.

    “The Battle of Bannockburn was a hugely significant moment in Scottish history and is part of a heritage that black Scots have as much right to share in as anyone else.” …

    Really, this doesn’t even make sense. How could black citizens of Scotland who are offended by Robert the Bruce ever emotionally participate in “Scottishness” or be invested in a Scottish nation-state? Logically, they should either refuse to apologize or tear the statue down.

  100. OT: A fake statue of Jeffrey Epstein appears in Albuquerque:

    https://www.krqe.com/news/albuquerque-metro/jeffrey-epstein-statue-mysteriously-appears-outside-city-hall/

    It’s somewhat less interesting now that a group has turned out to claim it.

    Maybe the trend will now be to put up protest statues.

  101. “ It was important that black visitors to the Battle of Bannockburn Visitor Centre felt ‘safe and welcome’, the statement continued.”

    Would this concern be extended to their English visitors?

  102. @Jonathan Mason
    Gene Kelly found guilty of cultural misappropriation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9250pY6wfQ&t=7s

    Replies: @CJ

    Great dancing. The noose that appears at 2:20 is guaranteed to trigger. Just a matter of time until that clip is suppressed.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @CJ

    Glad you spotted the noose.

  103. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    The truth of the matter is under attack here. Thank’s Steve for alerting us yet again to the lefty mischief.

    The darkness of one’s skin does not determine your race. Consider Dinsh D’Souza versus Barrack Obama. D’Souza is a dark Caucasian whereas Obama is half African. D’Souza’s ancestors left Africa probably about 40,000 years ago (these estimates are constantly being revised). Thereafter his ancestors developed an advanced civilization in India. When Da Gama sailed into India he was surprised at how advanced the natives were. Previous Portuguese explorers had met subsaharan Africans and therefore he had expected primitive savages. The first Portuguese to see black Africans had thought they were a type of Chimpanzee. They expected humans to have some signs of development like a written language, buildings not huts, domesticated plants and animals, and stone monuments.

    The Spaniards and Portuguese who sailed west to the Americas at about the same time found all these features of civilization in the Inca, Aztecs, and Maya. Their ancestors had left Africa had early also.

    Barrack Obama’s black side ancestors however never left Africa until the Age of Exploration in the modern world the second half of the fifteenth century. These may very well be some of those whom the Portuguese thought to be apes.

    Race is lineage. You are the present day manifestation of an unbroken line of succession of organisms that started billions of years ago. Some peoples have followed different paths. It’s not just skin color. It’s deeper.

  104. @NOTA
    @Mr. Anon

    Some poor guy was assigned to write that dreck stretching for some kind of excuse for the grafitti despite it making no sense, and he was clearly smart enough to know how silly his justification was. Why did they feel the need to write it?

    Replies: @David In TN

    “Why did they feel the need to write it?”

    The Scots have become the same cowardly hypocrites as white liberals everywhere with the need for Virtue Signaling.

  105. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    How long till Mount Rushmore gets a “facelift”?

  106. Let’s be honest, the Brits went down there for the same reason they still go down there, for a piss-up or a stag do. I wonder if Douglas had any great Spanish waiter stories.

  107. Lot says:
    @Altai
    Having dark eyes and black hair at the same time was dramatic enough for the term 'Black Irish' to exist.

    https://images.amcnetworks.com/bbcamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Colin-Farrell-1600x720.jpg

    Replies: @Lot

    Edward of Woodstock, The Black Prince, was named either because he was cruel to captured enemies or his dark armor.

    Thomas Fairfax, a Yorkshireman in the Scottish peerage and roundhead general, was called Black Tom for having dark features.

  108. Most people are historically illiterate.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JerylBier/status/1278400259887153152?s=20

    Via
    @NYTimes
    :

    “Throughout human history, three caste systems have stood out.”

    India, Nazi Germany, United States

    America’s Enduring Caste System
    nytimes.com

  109. Ano4 says:

    It is amazing that the majority of Westerners know so little about the Reconquista and the Islamic Spain. It was one of the most important pages of Western European history, and yet it is described in a completely distorted manner.

    The Umayyad dynasty ruled upon a population of which probably more than 60% were native to Iberian peninsula, with perhaps some 35 % of the citizens being descendants of Arab and Berber invaders. Ethnic Arabs represented probably less than 15% total. Local Iberic people converted to Islam and became Arabized as a result, some retained Christianity, but become also Arabized (the Mozarab). Those who converted to Islam did so because prior to Islamic conquest they were exposed to the monophysite Arianism of the Wisigoth and because they paid way less taxes under the Islamic Rule and had a higher standard of living and a better social organization than their neighbors to the north and the east under the Frank feudal rule.

    [MORE]

    The Caliphate was not destroyed by the Christian Reconquista, but by the rebellion of the Berber clans who constituted the majority of the troops. This rebellion had as main reasons the chauvinism of the tiny Arabic minority of El Andalus who saw the Berber as second class Muslims, and also the promotion of the Slav (Saqaliba) indentured warriors to posts of command and government above the Berber free men.

    Moreover, the Reconquista only succeeded after the Islamic Oumma entered into the Age of Decadence (Ahd El Inhitat), which started with the El Andalus civil war (Fitna) during the time of the Taifas, but become irreversible following the Mongol invasion of the Abbasid caliphate and the demise of the Fatimid caliphate which BTW were nearly simultaneous.

    Some 500 years after the conquest of Spain, Islamic civilization everywhere started decaying, never to reach again its splendors of the Xth century CE, despite even the OttomanEmpire rise to power. But some 500 years after the completion of the Reconquista, it is the West today that is decaying and its progressing unraveling presents many common characteristics with the downfall of the Islamic Spain.

    Regarding the skin color of Al Andalus Berbers, those who came with Tarik Ibnu Ziyad from the modern day Algeria and the northern Morocco were the typical Mediterranean people, physically indistinguishable from the southern Spaniards of the 8th century. Those who came with the Almoravid from the modern day Moroccan Western Sahara and modern day Mauretania were darker, similar to the Touareg with whom they shared many customs. Those who came last under the Almohad were already mixed with Arabs and were thus in between the two ethnic types described above.

    This begs the question what was the ancestral population to both Berber groups and what did it look like. The answer I believe lies with Canary Islands’ native Guanche who spoke an archaic Berber language and were an isolated group probably trapped on these islands since the end of the neolithic.

    The Guanche were tall, dolichocephalic, fair skinned with brown to reddish hair and frequently had green and brown eyes. On the paintings of the Spaniard artists they are often presented as even more leukanoderm than their Spanish conquerors.

    • Thanks: Charlotte
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ano4

    Thanks.

  110. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.

    European history is basically a big In Your Face to the less accomplished races of the world, so these anti-historians are set on doing something about it.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Peterike

    “ There seem to be a lot of historians these days who went into the business because they really hate history, European history in particular.”

    Like Zuckerberg’s sister going into classics.

    • Agree: Gordo
  111. @Dicentim
    The Moors have been black since interpretations of Shakespeare made them so; subsequently various Moors, Saracens etc. were portrayed by Black actors; it initially made sense: in earlier days, Islam in America was associated with Nation of Islam, so it was natural that people of that creed had to look the part too; do you remember the time when Eddie Murphy portrayed a Pharaoh while Michael Jackson was Moses? Egypt got privatised too; then they got Hannibal, who was a proto-Moor of sorts; now it appears that the Roman legions had many Black soldiers, you see, some provinces were in Africa and Africans are Black and so were some of the Achaians and Trojans that made it to Homer and Sicilians too as explained by the late Dennis Hopper in True Romance.

    Robert the Bruce most probably didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in his life; he possibly wasn't even aware of their existence or had as much awareness about them as about elves and dragons; the knights that transported his heart on their campaign possibly didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; hell, it could even be that some or perhaps all their Mahometan foes didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; think of it: fourteenth century, five or six centuries of Islam in Spain, most people not moving more than a couple of dozen miles from their place of birth, most Spanish Mahometans being from local or remote North African descent, slavery existant but most slaves being of European stock...

    Of course Robert the Bruce was an associate of William Wallace and the latter, as we all know is none other than the infamous Mel Gibson, who as we all know holds certain views...

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Ano4

    And certainly William Wallace was an ancestor of George Wallace.

  112. @Altai
    Also I'm confused. Why was the Reconquista bad? It was the reassertion of control by the native peoples over settler colonialists who didn't have much respect for the natives religion or culture.

    The Moors were the bad guys.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @a guy named me

    The reason why we don’t see it that way in America is becuase of the legacy of British/WASP imperialism. Anglo elites as far back as the 1400 and 1500’s developed anti-Spanish ideologies to justify their own imperial ambitions. In Anglodom, Spain was portrayed as wicked and oppressive. Great emphasis was given to supposed Spanish narrow mindedness and intolerance of minorities and this was used to demonize Spain and justify Anglos attacking Spain. It’s natural if you see Spain as intolerant villains to sympathize with the Muslim invaders and their Jewish helpers. Framing the issues the way WASPs have for hundreds of years make it impossible to sympathize with the indigenous European Christian Spanish people.

    A huge part of the fight to save the West is tearing down the myths of WASPdom, from which self hating liberalism originates. Every time in the last 500 years that WASPs, in the UK or USA, coveted the wealth, power or land of another European nation, WASP elites would connect propaganda accusing the targeted nation of bigotry, backwardness and intolerance of religious minorities. Anglo people became conditioned to this kind of thinking over hundreds of years. The narrative of “bad majority oppresses innocent minorities and therefor must be physically attacked” is so deep in WASP culture that it probably can’t be taken out. The whole rotten culture has to be burned to the ground. That’s why most young Anglo-Saxon men who are on the good side are rejecting Puritan/Evangelical type religion completely for traditional Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Germanic Lutheran style Protestantism or Paganism. The fact that some Puritans cheered the Muslims who invaded Europe is all you need to know about the deep roots our our crisis.

    • Agree: Alden, Ano4, S. Anonyia
    • Thanks: Charlotte
    • Replies: @Alden
    @ATBOTL

    “ Better a Turk than a Pope” was the motto of the Jewish front group, the Dutch Calvinists.

  113. @Jonathan Mason
    @David In TN

    So do I. We must have read the same book.

    I probably knew the date of the Battle of Bannockburn at the age of 8. The way to remember it was Bannockburn 1314, Agincourt 1415, Waterloo 1815.

    Then, of course Hastings in 1066, which was easy to remember because that is when the dynasty of Norman kings replaced the Saxons and brought in lots of French words, so that by the time of Chaucer (died 1400) we more or less had something recognizable as modern English, whereas Anglo Saxon, which went before, looks more like German.

    Another good one to remember after 1066 is 1588 when the British Navy saw off the Spanish Armada in one of the greatest days in British history until Liverpool saw off Barcelona FC 4-0 on May 8th, 2019, handing the Spaniards yet another crushing defeat against the odds.

    History basically started when Julius Caesar made a sortie to England in 55 BC and then returned in 54 BC to do a proper invasion. Anything before that is not history, but Classics.

    Columbus was a foreigner, but anyway in 1492 he sailed the ocean blue and failed to discover America or the Pacific, though he did eventually cruise along the coast of Panama and got within 20 miles of the Pacific, which was eventually discovered by:

    ... stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star'd at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
    [Milton, J., 1667]

    That was long before the Great Fire of London, when, in sixteen hundred and sixty six, the city of London was burned to sticks.

    (Of course it would have been more accurate to say it was reduced to charcoal, but it wouldn't have rhymed.)

    Guy Fawkes's plot to blow up Parliament is recalled by Remember, Remember the Fifth of November.

    The dates of World War II are easy to remember, 1939 to 1945, but if you were educated in the US, you may have learned 1941 to 1945, as the US joined in on December 8th of that year and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.

    And that is really all I ever learned in history in school. What else would you need to know?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux

    …and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.

    By the American people but definitely not by our leaders.

  114. A short history of the Vandals.

    https://www.ancient.eu/Vandals/

  115. anonymous[541] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zoodles
    Reconquista was decolonisation.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Of course it was.

    We are going to see an awful lot of similar decolonisation in the near future if people who hate the majority in the countries they live in continue to express that hatred in violent, dishonest, insulting, and blasphemous ways.

    Hatred, dishonesty, and blasphemy are one-way tickets to being disliked by people who have little respect for dishonest hate-filled blasphemers.

    Well, if the white community in Pakistan continues to attack Muslim historical statues and shrines, and demand that Pakistanis abjure their heritage, and denounce their ancestors, things might not go so well for that community!!!!

  116. I call on Egypt to tear down those pyramids, they’re the product of slave labor!
    Also, Rome needs to tear down the coliseum, in which People of Color were brutally murdered!

    Closer to home, Washington D.C. needs to be renamed. That’s TWO racist references (racist slave owner Washington, and the District of Columbia, named after racist Columbus) in the name of our very capital! And on top of that, the evil racist dictator lives in the WHITE house at 1600 (What a racist number! It’s obviously a reference to a year where slavery was still legal!) PENNSYLVANIA (a white majority, therefore racist, state) avenue! We must stop all the racism and put President Hillary into the Black House, at 2020 Africa Ave, Georgefloyd, District of Cullors.

    • Replies: @Dicentim
    @Stop Clinton and Bush

    Shush!
    You may give them ideas.
    They are not as smart and creative as one might assume; if they were, they wouldn't have chosen that path.

  117. Almost too retarded for words. He undoubtedly never laid eyes on a Negro in his life. And “black Scots”? WTF!

  118. @a guy named me
    Oh man, wait until they come for Queen Isabel in Spain....

    Replies: @moshe

    Well, I’m not one for destruction but I did spit on her tomb.

    • Replies: @a guy named me
    @moshe

    The same way ultra-orthodox Jews spit on priests in Jerusalem?
    You spit on the tomb of the national savior of Spain for ethnic reasons then you wonder why people don't like you?

  119. @Ano4
    It is amazing that the majority of Westerners know so little about the Reconquista and the Islamic Spain. It was one of the most important pages of Western European history, and yet it is described in a completely distorted manner.

    The Umayyad dynasty ruled upon a population of which probably more than 60% were native to Iberian peninsula, with perhaps some 35 % of the citizens being descendants of Arab and Berber invaders. Ethnic Arabs represented probably less than 15% total. Local Iberic people converted to Islam and became Arabized as a result, some retained Christianity, but become also Arabized (the Mozarab). Those who converted to Islam did so because prior to Islamic conquest they were exposed to the monophysite Arianism of the Wisigoth and because they paid way less taxes under the Islamic Rule and had a higher standard of living and a better social organization than their neighbors to the north and the east under the Frank feudal rule.



    The Caliphate was not destroyed by the Christian Reconquista, but by the rebellion of the Berber clans who constituted the majority of the troops. This rebellion had as main reasons the chauvinism of the tiny Arabic minority of El Andalus who saw the Berber as second class Muslims, and also the promotion of the Slav (Saqaliba) indentured warriors to posts of command and government above the Berber free men.

    Moreover, the Reconquista only succeeded after the Islamic Oumma entered into the Age of Decadence (Ahd El Inhitat), which started with the El Andalus civil war (Fitna) during the time of the Taifas, but become irreversible following the Mongol invasion of the Abbasid caliphate and the demise of the Fatimid caliphate which BTW were nearly simultaneous.

    Some 500 years after the conquest of Spain, Islamic civilization everywhere started decaying, never to reach again its splendors of the Xth century CE, despite even the OttomanEmpire rise to power. But some 500 years after the completion of the Reconquista, it is the West today that is decaying and its progressing unraveling presents many common characteristics with the downfall of the Islamic Spain.

    Regarding the skin color of Al Andalus Berbers, those who came with Tarik Ibnu Ziyad from the modern day Algeria and the northern Morocco were the typical Mediterranean people, physically indistinguishable from the southern Spaniards of the 8th century. Those who came with the Almoravid from the modern day Moroccan Western Sahara and modern day Mauretania were darker, similar to the Touareg with whom they shared many customs. Those who came last under the Almohad were already mixed with Arabs and were thus in between the two ethnic types described above.

    This begs the question what was the ancestral population to both Berber groups and what did it look like. The answer I believe lies with Canary Islands' native Guanche who spoke an archaic Berber language and were an isolated group probably trapped on these islands since the end of the neolithic.

    The Guanche were tall, dolichocephalic, fair skinned with brown to reddish hair and frequently had green and brown eyes. On the paintings of the Spaniard artists they are often presented as even more leukanoderm than their Spanish conquerors.

    https://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-1-4614-9396-9_1/MediaObjects/309270_1_En_1_Fig3_HTML.gif

    https://static3.abc.es/media/espana/2019/09/04/[email protected]

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  120. @Jonathan Mason
    @David In TN

    So do I. We must have read the same book.

    I probably knew the date of the Battle of Bannockburn at the age of 8. The way to remember it was Bannockburn 1314, Agincourt 1415, Waterloo 1815.

    Then, of course Hastings in 1066, which was easy to remember because that is when the dynasty of Norman kings replaced the Saxons and brought in lots of French words, so that by the time of Chaucer (died 1400) we more or less had something recognizable as modern English, whereas Anglo Saxon, which went before, looks more like German.

    Another good one to remember after 1066 is 1588 when the British Navy saw off the Spanish Armada in one of the greatest days in British history until Liverpool saw off Barcelona FC 4-0 on May 8th, 2019, handing the Spaniards yet another crushing defeat against the odds.

    History basically started when Julius Caesar made a sortie to England in 55 BC and then returned in 54 BC to do a proper invasion. Anything before that is not history, but Classics.

    Columbus was a foreigner, but anyway in 1492 he sailed the ocean blue and failed to discover America or the Pacific, though he did eventually cruise along the coast of Panama and got within 20 miles of the Pacific, which was eventually discovered by:

    ... stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star'd at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look'd at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
    [Milton, J., 1667]

    That was long before the Great Fire of London, when, in sixteen hundred and sixty six, the city of London was burned to sticks.

    (Of course it would have been more accurate to say it was reduced to charcoal, but it wouldn't have rhymed.)

    Guy Fawkes's plot to blow up Parliament is recalled by Remember, Remember the Fifth of November.

    The dates of World War II are easy to remember, 1939 to 1945, but if you were educated in the US, you may have learned 1941 to 1945, as the US joined in on December 8th of that year and the war in Europe was regarded as a prologue.

    And that is really all I ever learned in history in school. What else would you need to know?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @syonredux

    … stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star’d at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look’d at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien. [Milton, J., 1667]

    The lines are from John Keats’ “On First Looking into Chapman’s Homer “…..

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @syonredux

    Oops. My bad.

  121. The crusades has several purposes. One of the most important was ending the slave trade of Europeans to Muslims. So they were slavery abolitionists. Well, so were Robert Shaw and Hans Heg both abolitionists who enlisted in the civil war union army and were killed in battle Didn’t stop the anti White racists from knocking down their statutes. I gather crusaders or any person descended from anyone who lived in Europe during the crusades is now an anti Muslim racist. Or anyone who lived in Europe from 700 AD on.

  122. @ATBOTL
    @Altai

    The reason why we don't see it that way in America is becuase of the legacy of British/WASP imperialism. Anglo elites as far back as the 1400 and 1500's developed anti-Spanish ideologies to justify their own imperial ambitions. In Anglodom, Spain was portrayed as wicked and oppressive. Great emphasis was given to supposed Spanish narrow mindedness and intolerance of minorities and this was used to demonize Spain and justify Anglos attacking Spain. It's natural if you see Spain as intolerant villains to sympathize with the Muslim invaders and their Jewish helpers. Framing the issues the way WASPs have for hundreds of years make it impossible to sympathize with the indigenous European Christian Spanish people.

    A huge part of the fight to save the West is tearing down the myths of WASPdom, from which self hating liberalism originates. Every time in the last 500 years that WASPs, in the UK or USA, coveted the wealth, power or land of another European nation, WASP elites would connect propaganda accusing the targeted nation of bigotry, backwardness and intolerance of religious minorities. Anglo people became conditioned to this kind of thinking over hundreds of years. The narrative of "bad majority oppresses innocent minorities and therefor must be physically attacked" is so deep in WASP culture that it probably can't be taken out. The whole rotten culture has to be burned to the ground. That's why most young Anglo-Saxon men who are on the good side are rejecting Puritan/Evangelical type religion completely for traditional Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Germanic Lutheran style Protestantism or Paganism. The fact that some Puritans cheered the Muslims who invaded Europe is all you need to know about the deep roots our our crisis.

    Replies: @Alden

    “ Better a Turk than a Pope” was the motto of the Jewish front group, the Dutch Calvinists.

  123. @TomSchmidt
    @RichardTaylor

    "Our survival depends on getting rid of these cucks and race-traitors as soon as possible."

    As a country, as soon as the elites figure out there's profit in the people who are revolting, they'll support it. Right now the Republicans are kissing ass because they figure there's a wipeout coming in November and they think they'll be treated better if they cuck now. That might change.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    Would that be a “wypipo-out”?

  124. The Scots shouldn’t have to apologize for their “racism.” They can just point out that “the last king of Scotland” was a black African:

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0455590/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

    (Question: How long until Idi Amin gets retconned into being an actual Scottish king, so the Scots can win some Diversity Points?)

  125. @Forbes
    @Gordo

    Are black Scots anything like, or resemble, black Irish?

    Asking for a friend...

    Replies: @Cortes, @Gordo

    Go up the Western Isles and there is a lot of identical to the Black Irish blood.

    Not the same as being black as in an African of course 🙂

    In South East Scotland the race is pretty much Anglo-Saxon, and funnily enough the only part of Scotland where cricket is played to any extent.

  126. Steve
    Governor of Vancouver island 1850 and HBC big shot was born in Guyana 1803 and considered a blackamoor. His name was Sir James Douglas.

    Enjoy your blog immensely….
    John.

  127. @Kent Nationalist

    “Douglas and his companions were killed at the Battle of Teba in 1330, fighting troops that would have been predominantly (perhaps exclusively) black.

     

    So the insane afro-centric theory that 'Moors' (i.e. Berbers and local Spaniards) were all black is now mainstream

    Replies: @mc203, @Cido, @midtown, @S. Anonyia, @Lot, @Patrick Boyle, @nebulafox

    St. Augustine’s black now?

    • Agree: Ano4
  128. @Altai
    Also I'm confused. Why was the Reconquista bad? It was the reassertion of control by the native peoples over settler colonialists who didn't have much respect for the natives religion or culture.

    The Moors were the bad guys.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @a guy named me

    Queen Isabella expelled the Jews. Jews look at moorish spain as their ‘golden age’.

  129. @moshe
    @a guy named me

    Well, I'm not one for destruction but I did spit on her tomb.

    Replies: @a guy named me

    The same way ultra-orthodox Jews spit on priests in Jerusalem?
    You spit on the tomb of the national savior of Spain for ethnic reasons then you wonder why people don’t like you?

  130. @Kyle
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve been waiting for 1975-1982 boomer rock to die from the air waves for the past 20 years. It won’t die.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve been waiting for 1975-1982 boomer rock to die from the air waves for the past 20 years. It won’t die.

    As bad as that was, there is one compensation: everything that came after is even worse. In 20 years, you’ll pour your machine cappuccino at the quick-stop under a barrage of hip hop.

    At least Dancing Queen and Cruel to be Kind are songs. You can play them on a uke.

  131. @a guy named me
    @Dr. X

    why so they can be promoted and given an award?

    Ethiopians (preseter john) participated in the crusades on the side of Christians, that should complicate things.

    Replies: @Graham

    Prester John is an attractive character but he didn’t have the vital attribute of actually existing.

  132. @Stop Clinton and Bush
    I call on Egypt to tear down those pyramids, they're the product of slave labor!
    Also, Rome needs to tear down the coliseum, in which People of Color were brutally murdered!

    Closer to home, Washington D.C. needs to be renamed. That's TWO racist references (racist slave owner Washington, and the District of Columbia, named after racist Columbus) in the name of our very capital! And on top of that, the evil racist dictator lives in the WHITE house at 1600 (What a racist number! It's obviously a reference to a year where slavery was still legal!) PENNSYLVANIA (a white majority, therefore racist, state) avenue! We must stop all the racism and put President Hillary into the Black House, at 2020 Africa Ave, Georgefloyd, District of Cullors.

    Replies: @Dicentim

    Shush!
    You may give them ideas.
    They are not as smart and creative as one might assume; if they were, they wouldn’t have chosen that path.

  133. @syonredux
    @Jonathan Mason


    … stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star’d at the Pacific—and all his men
    Look’d at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien. [Milton, J., 1667]
     
    The lines are from John Keats' "On First Looking into Chapman's Homer ".....

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Oops. My bad.

  134. Ano4 says:
    @Dicentim
    The Moors have been black since interpretations of Shakespeare made them so; subsequently various Moors, Saracens etc. were portrayed by Black actors; it initially made sense: in earlier days, Islam in America was associated with Nation of Islam, so it was natural that people of that creed had to look the part too; do you remember the time when Eddie Murphy portrayed a Pharaoh while Michael Jackson was Moses? Egypt got privatised too; then they got Hannibal, who was a proto-Moor of sorts; now it appears that the Roman legions had many Black soldiers, you see, some provinces were in Africa and Africans are Black and so were some of the Achaians and Trojans that made it to Homer and Sicilians too as explained by the late Dennis Hopper in True Romance.

    Robert the Bruce most probably didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in his life; he possibly wasn't even aware of their existence or had as much awareness about them as about elves and dragons; the knights that transported his heart on their campaign possibly didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; hell, it could even be that some or perhaps all their Mahometan foes didn't encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; think of it: fourteenth century, five or six centuries of Islam in Spain, most people not moving more than a couple of dozen miles from their place of birth, most Spanish Mahometans being from local or remote North African descent, slavery existant but most slaves being of European stock...

    Of course Robert the Bruce was an associate of William Wallace and the latter, as we all know is none other than the infamous Mel Gibson, who as we all know holds certain views...

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Ano4

    hell, it could even be that some or perhaps all their Mahometan foes didn’t encounter a person of Sub-Saharan descent in their lives; think of it: fourteenth century, five or six centuries of Islam in Spain, most people not moving more than a couple of dozen miles from their place of birth, most Spanish Mahometans being from local or remote North African descent, slavery existant but most slaves being of European stock……

    Arabs and Berbers have a very clear opinion about them being absolutely non-related to the Sub-saharan Blacks. As one Touareg once told to one of my family members: “The sons of Mohammad are not the same as the sons of Tin Hinan and they both are not Bilal’s children “. He did not say that he saw them as being superior or inferior to each other, but he was absolutely aware of them being different. This is true race-realism.

  135. Ano4 says:
    @Dicentim
    @Thomm

    No one knows for sure what ethnicities and backgrounds Yul Brynner had as he had made quite a few claims regarding that and he came from a time and place where all those claims could be true or false; if I were to put money on any, I'd say that it was the same as Charlie Chaplin's, that is when I figure that one out...

    As for Zidane; he has become a poster boy for showing how White North Africa is, and it is true that to me his appearance and life choices make him a European. To be honest, unlike many here with whom I share certain views, I don't care much about physical appearance and I accept people who genuinely embrace values that I consider to be mine, but for the sake of being academically objective, I must note that presently only a minority of North Africans look as European as Zidane and they are more concentrated among certain ethnic groups that claim to have been the original inhabitants of that land; they are usually called Berbers, but the truth is that it is an appelation that covers the speakers of Berber languages, some of whom, like the Kabyles, Riffans and Chaouis look White or Mediterranean, while some like the Tuaregs look predominantly Black; it is easy to understand that processes similar to those that led the English and Spanish languages to be spoken by people of different races around the world, must have taken place earlier with the spread of the Berber and later Arab languages in North Africa. So the point to take home is that Berber is not a race but a group of languages and that they are spoken by different ethnic groups that each should be seen as its own thing.

    Besides that, a majority (if statistics can be trusted) of North Africans do not speak Berber but local dialects of Arabic and generally identify either with the regions or countries that they inhabit or as Arab (usually vis a vis their Berber neighbours), nevertheless, most are not descended from Middle Eastern Arabs but are the result of language adoption and certain mixing mainly among ethnicities already inhabiting North Africa during the Arab conquest, to which some Iberian expellees, Arabs, Turks and slaves (both Black and European) were added.

    Finally, a lot of North Africans both at home and in Europe call themselves Arab because of religion and because the French called them so.

    Replies: @Ano4

    Absolutely correct. The Maghreb was a melting pot of different ethnic lineages since times immemorial.

    [MORE]

    A thing is certain: the majority of the male population there are currently of Y haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215/E-M35).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)

    Y haplogroup E1b1b is sometimes named the Mediterranean modal haplogroup because it’s different clades which originated in the Horn of Africa around the Mesolithic are also present all around the Mediterranean sea to various degrees with the highest proportion in Europe being found among Albanians and Greeks.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml

    The North African haplogroup E is directly related to the first neolithic sedentary agriculturalists of the Middle East (the Natufian Culture), it is found among the native ancestral populations of pred-dynastic Egypt and is also clearly correlated with both the proto-Berber populations of the Capsian culture and the remaining male population of Guanche descent in the Canarias.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsian_culture

    https://www.britannica.com/place/ancient-Egypt/The-Predynastic-and-Early-Dynastic-periods

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

    http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/north-african-origin-guanches-05369.html

    To summarize: Berbers are the descendants of the first neolithic agriculturalists that spread on both sides of Mediterranean sea and the Sahara desert. Some of these neolithic populations have reached Wester Europe, while other reached Canary islands. Along the way these populations have admixed with the local hunters gatherers (Ibero-Mauresian European Cro-Magnon populations in the Iberian peninsula and Extreme Maghreb are one of these hunter gatherer cultures). Berbers are not a Race, but the vast majority of them belong to a very ancient genetic lineage.

    On the picture below the four tatooed gentlemen with ostrich feathers in their hair are the ancient Berbers, the other three gentlemen on their right are a Nubian, a Semite and an Egyptian. This is a representation from a wall painting date to the Egyptian 19 dynasty.

    https://dailyhistory.org/images/thumb/3/36/Libyans.jpg/300px-Libyans.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:228×94/rscb1/ng:webp/ngcb1

    • Thanks: Dicentim
    • Replies: @Ano4
    @Ano4


    Ibero-Mauresian European Cro-Magnon populations in the Iberian peninsula and Extreme Maghreb are one of these hunter gatherer cultures
     
    I have been mistaken here, so I correct and apologize.

    Despite its name, the Ibero-Mauresian seems a local Maghrebian archeological culture not related to European hunters gatherers. In fact recent studies seem to demonstrate that the Mesolithic Mechtoid Ibero-Mauresian populations were already Y haplogroup E1b1b. Which brings the intriguing possibility that the earliest sedentary Natufian neolithic agriculturalists of present day Israel/Palestine might have come from the Maghreb. Bottom line: Berber people are a really ancient lineage and are the native population of North Africa since the earliest archeological times.

  136. @CJ
    @Jonathan Mason

    Great dancing. The noose that appears at 2:20 is guaranteed to trigger. Just a matter of time until that clip is suppressed.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Glad you spotted the noose.

  137. A few months ago, I discovered that I’m a descendant of Robert the Bruce. The genealogy is complete, including a Scottish soldier of fortune who landed in Alsace after the Thirty Years’ War. Out of all the medieval rulers I could be descended from, I think I drew the most desirable one.

  138. @Ano4
    @Dicentim

    Absolutely correct. The Maghreb was a melting pot of different ethnic lineages since times immemorial.



    A thing is certain: the majority of the male population there are currently of Y haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215/E-M35).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)

    Y haplogroup E1b1b is sometimes named the Mediterranean modal haplogroup because it's different clades which originated in the Horn of Africa around the Mesolithic are also present all around the Mediterranean sea to various degrees with the highest proportion in Europe being found among Albanians and Greeks.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml

    The North African haplogroup E is directly related to the first neolithic sedentary agriculturalists of the Middle East (the Natufian Culture), it is found among the native ancestral populations of pred-dynastic Egypt and is also clearly correlated with both the proto-Berber populations of the Capsian culture and the remaining male population of Guanche descent in the Canarias.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsian_culture

    https://www.britannica.com/place/ancient-Egypt/The-Predynastic-and-Early-Dynastic-periods

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

    http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/north-african-origin-guanches-05369.html

    To summarize: Berbers are the descendants of the first neolithic agriculturalists that spread on both sides of Mediterranean sea and the Sahara desert. Some of these neolithic populations have reached Wester Europe, while other reached Canary islands. Along the way these populations have admixed with the local hunters gatherers (Ibero-Mauresian European Cro-Magnon populations in the Iberian peninsula and Extreme Maghreb are one of these hunter gatherer cultures). Berbers are not a Race, but the vast majority of them belong to a very ancient genetic lineage.

    On the picture below the four tatooed gentlemen with ostrich feathers in their hair are the ancient Berbers, the other three gentlemen on their right are a Nubian, a Semite and an Egyptian. This is a representation from a wall painting date to the Egyptian 19 dynasty.

    https://dailyhistory.org/images/thumb/3/36/Libyans.jpg/300px-Libyans.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:228x94/rscb1/ng:webp/ngcb1

    Replies: @Ano4

    Ibero-Mauresian European Cro-Magnon populations in the Iberian peninsula and Extreme Maghreb are one of these hunter gatherer cultures

    I have been mistaken here, so I correct and apologize.

    Despite its name, the Ibero-Mauresian seems a local Maghrebian archeological culture not related to European hunters gatherers. In fact recent studies seem to demonstrate that the Mesolithic Mechtoid Ibero-Mauresian populations were already Y haplogroup E1b1b. Which brings the intriguing possibility that the earliest sedentary Natufian neolithic agriculturalists of present day Israel/Palestine might have come from the Maghreb. Bottom line: Berber people are a really ancient lineage and are the native population of North Africa since the earliest archeological times.

  139. @anon
    @David In TN

    There is a Netflix vid about Robert the Bruce called "Outlaw King". It's a passable telling which means it contains some treachery and violence that is brutally graphic, as the politics of that day were. There are flaws but it is faithful enough to the history.

    As was the custom, the English king Edward I "Longshanks" sent body parts of William Wallace to be displayed in various parts of the realm. An early scene in "Outlaw King" shows this and the reaction. Safe for work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDjYWIkF7r0

    In time a Scots army was gathered and dispersed and beaten and nearly wiped out and revived again. It is a good story. It is a worthy story. In time the Scots were able to ambush and defeat English forces, including armored knights. English forces were hunting the Bruce, but could not quite come to grips with him. Then he chose a place himself.

    https://restishistory.blog/2018/11/14/the-battle-of-loudoun-hill-robert-the-bruces-turning-fortunes/

    At Loudon Hill, the Bruce and his tiny army of 500 to 600 mostly militia stood their ground to fight the English force of 3,000, many of them heavily armed and armored knights. The Bruce had learned from bitter failure to choose ground with care. Here was a narrow boggy area with one road through it. By modifying even that approach, the Scots funneled the English into a narrow patch of ground that had fatal results for many of them.


    Bruce took the opportunity of the challenge to prepare his ground, cutting three ditches inward from the edge of the bogs, leaving 90 metre gaps in the centre which were to be guarded by dismounted pikemen, while soil embankments with ditches protected the flanks. This forced the English to approach through the narrow front created by their opponents, restricting their movements and deployment capabilities effectively neutralising their numerical advantage. It was reminiscent of William Wallace’s great victory at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, with the same filtering effect at work.
     
    Contrasting speeches in the movie at Loudin Hill. First, the English lord Aymer de Valence addresses his knights and men.

    Then Robert the Bruce speaks to a gang of deplorable militia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=104FfuVcZwU

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit.
    Perhaps they could learn from 10,000 hours of community service digging peat.

    Replies: @David In TN, @S. Anonyia

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit.”

    I am of Scottish ancestry. I fully agree. My contempt for the prissy snowflakes is equal to yours.

  140. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    All Confederate statues in Richmond are coming down today by order of the (black) mayor.
    To my knowledge there has been zero response from southern whites to the destruction of Confederate statues.
    Tens of millions of whites across the south, many of whom must be bothered by this, not saying a word.
    No organizations of any kind objecting to the removals.
    The censorship and silence is oppressive. I keep thinking some outrage and reaction must be building in whites in the south and will find an outlet. But then I realize all that outrage can just as easily dissolve in frustration and resignation.
    Unz commentors should pay attention to the reaction, or lack of it, from southern whites. They've had the reputation throughout our history of being the most prideful and violent whites in America. If southern whites have lost their balls it's not likely whites anywhere else will be different.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia

    I would guess the ‘outrage’ is primarily directed at the usual suspects in the Northeast responsible for inciting this mayhem. And if there’s a ‘reaction’ it will be directed against these people, not BLM. I’m not talking about Jews either.

  141. @anon
    @David In TN

    There is a Netflix vid about Robert the Bruce called "Outlaw King". It's a passable telling which means it contains some treachery and violence that is brutally graphic, as the politics of that day were. There are flaws but it is faithful enough to the history.

    As was the custom, the English king Edward I "Longshanks" sent body parts of William Wallace to be displayed in various parts of the realm. An early scene in "Outlaw King" shows this and the reaction. Safe for work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDjYWIkF7r0

    In time a Scots army was gathered and dispersed and beaten and nearly wiped out and revived again. It is a good story. It is a worthy story. In time the Scots were able to ambush and defeat English forces, including armored knights. English forces were hunting the Bruce, but could not quite come to grips with him. Then he chose a place himself.

    https://restishistory.blog/2018/11/14/the-battle-of-loudoun-hill-robert-the-bruces-turning-fortunes/

    At Loudon Hill, the Bruce and his tiny army of 500 to 600 mostly militia stood their ground to fight the English force of 3,000, many of them heavily armed and armored knights. The Bruce had learned from bitter failure to choose ground with care. Here was a narrow boggy area with one road through it. By modifying even that approach, the Scots funneled the English into a narrow patch of ground that had fatal results for many of them.


    Bruce took the opportunity of the challenge to prepare his ground, cutting three ditches inward from the edge of the bogs, leaving 90 metre gaps in the centre which were to be guarded by dismounted pikemen, while soil embankments with ditches protected the flanks. This forced the English to approach through the narrow front created by their opponents, restricting their movements and deployment capabilities effectively neutralising their numerical advantage. It was reminiscent of William Wallace’s great victory at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, with the same filtering effect at work.
     
    Contrasting speeches in the movie at Loudin Hill. First, the English lord Aymer de Valence addresses his knights and men.

    Then Robert the Bruce speaks to a gang of deplorable militia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=104FfuVcZwU

    My contempt for the pansyfaggotprissysnowflakes at the National Trust is without limit.
    Perhaps they could learn from 10,000 hours of community service digging peat.

    Replies: @David In TN, @S. Anonyia

    Not a bad movie but (per usual for the genre) it made the common mistake of portraying medieval people as dour and stoic. Half their calendar year was taken up by various feasts/festivals, so they probably far more chatty and consistently buzzed than their descendants.

  142. @anon
    All Confederate statues in Richmond are coming down today by order of the (black) mayor.
    To my knowledge there has been zero response from southern whites to the destruction of Confederate statues.
    Tens of millions of whites across the south, many of whom must be bothered by this, not saying a word.
    No organizations of any kind objecting to the removals.
    The censorship and silence is oppressive. I keep thinking some outrage and reaction must be building in whites in the south and will find an outlet. But then I realize all that outrage can just as easily dissolve in frustration and resignation.
    Unz commentors should pay attention to the reaction, or lack of it, from southern whites. They've had the reputation throughout our history of being the most prideful and violent whites in America. If southern whites have lost their balls it's not likely whites anywhere else will be different.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @S. Anonyia

    Suburban moderately conservative Southern whites (people like my parents and relatives) are doing well economically and don’t want to risk their jobs. Southerners care about money above all. Plus, we aren’t as attached to the Confederacy as people think. Though everyone WAS mad about the Gone With the Wind removal.

    Only the poor whites in the upper South really care about their rebel flags and heroes, the ones ironically not at all connected to the planter elite. But they are powerless and essentially voiceless in 2020 America.

    Also many of the young affluent suburban southerners who were brought up evangelical are now pretty liberal. Turns out evangelical religion “all about the feels” makes you pretty pliable to any ideology. They’ve replaced their childhood religion with a new one. They are among the crowds in places like Nashville, Richmond, and Atlanta.

    I traveled to the Midwest recently and it honestly seemed more culturally conservative (and less sophisticated in terms of style, food) than the South. Not bad or good- just was.

    Pay attention to the part of the South where there is the least amount of statue destruction/removal- Florida, the Gulf Coast, and Louisiana? Why- those areas were founded by Catholics and shaped by Catholic mores even if they aren’t majority Catholic today, they had a better relationship with blacks historically, and have something of the “Latin” attitude towards race. Less white guilt, and also less anger from the black community since there was a tad more flexibility during Jim Crow (although there was certainly still segregation).

  143. Malla says:
    @Colin Wright
    @Daniel H

    '
    Dario Fernandez-Morera in The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise… makes the case that it was common practice for the emirs of Muslim Medieval Spain – as it was for the Ottomans with Slavic women – to take Spanish slave women and even other Christian slave women from further afar (Slavic lands, Byzantine lands) as concubines and wives. The children of such liaisons were brought up as Muslims and became emirs or hidalgo emirs. This went on for generations, and was compounded so that after a few hundred years the Muslims of Spain were in many cases indistinguishable from the Christians of Spain. If one searches around on the internet one can find painted medieval and late medieval representations of Spanish Muslims that portray the Muslims as variously colored: brown haired, red haired, blonde…'


    Of course. This happens with everybody. That's one of several reasons why the notion that Jews are completely distinct from the gentiles of their various former homelands is the most obvious nonsense.

    Replies: @Malla

    Hell, even Prophet Mohamed is said to have White skin (from an Arab perspective White skin from an European perspective may have meant light/fair skin).

    Sahih Muslim 4:1208
    ‘Amir b. Sa’d reported: I saw the Messenger of Allah (may peace be open him) pronouncing taslim on his right and on his left till I saw the whiteness of his cheek.

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:991
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas’ud: The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to give the salutation to his left and right sides until the whiteness of his cheek was seen, (saying: “Peace be upon you, and mercy of Allah” twice. AbuDawud said: This is a version of the tradition reported by AbuSufyan. The version of Isra’il did not explain it. AbuDawud said: This tradition has been narrated by Zubayr from AbuIshaq and Yahya ibn Adam from Isra’il from AbuIshaq from AbdurRahman ibn al-Aswad from his father from Alqamah on the authority of Abdullah ibn Mas’ud. AbuDawud said: Shu’bah used to reject this tradition, the tradition narrated by AbuIshaq as coming from the Prophet (peace be upon him).

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:1002
    Narrated Al-Azraq ibn Qays: An imam of ours, whose kunyah (surname) was AbuRimthah, led us in prayer and said: I prayed this prayer, or one like it, with the Prophet (peace be upon him). AbuBakr and Umar were standing in the front row on his right and there was a man who had been present at the first takbir in the prayer. The Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) offered the prayer, then gave the salutation to his right and his left so that we saw the whiteness of his cheeks, then turned away as AbuRimthah (meaning himself) had done. The man who has been present with him at the first takbir in the prayer then got up to pray another prayer, whereupon Umar leaped up and, seizing him by the shoulders, shook him and said: Sit down, for the People of the Book perished for no other reason than that there was no interval between their prayers. The Prophet (peace be upon him) raised his eyes and said: Allah has made you say what is right, son of al-Khattab.

    [MORE]

    Chapter 26 of Sahih Muslim on the USC-MSA website is entitled,

    Chapter 26: ALLAH’S MESSENGER (MAY PEACE AE UPON HIM) HAD A WHITE ELEGANT FACE[1]
    Jurairi reported: I said to Abu Tufail: Did you see Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)? He said: Yes, he had a white handsome face. Muslim b. Hajjaj said: Abu Tufail who died in 100 Hijra was the last of the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him).
    Sahih Muslim 30:5777, See Also Sahih Muslim 30:5786

    Sahih Bukhari 1:3:63
    Narrated Anas bin Malik: While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: “Who amongst you is Muhammad?” At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, “This white man reclining on his arm.” The an then addressed him, “O Son of ‘Abdul Muttalib.”…

    Sahih Bukhari 2:17:122
    Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Dinar: My father said, “I heard Ibn ‘Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib: And a white (person) (i.e. the Prophet) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows.” Salim’s father (Ibn ‘Umar) said, “The following poetic verse occurred to my mind while I was looking at the face of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) while he was praying for rain. He did not get down till the rain water flowed profusely from every roof-g utter: And a white (person) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows . . . And these were the words of Abu Talib.”

    Narrated Isma’il bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, “I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin ‘Ali resembled him.” I said to Abu- Juhaifa, “Describe him for me.” He said, “He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them.”

    Sahih Bukhari 4:56:744
    Abu Tufail reported: I saw Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there is one amongst the people of the earth who (are living at the present time and) had seen him except me. I said to him: How did you find him? He said: He had an elegant white color, and he was of an average height.

    Sahih Bukhari 4:56:767
    Narrated Abu Juhaifa: By chance I went to the Prophet at noon while he was at Al-Abtah (resting) in a tent. Bilal came out (of the tent) and pronounced the Adhan for the prayer, and entering again, he brought out the water which was left after Allah’s Apostle had performed the ablution. The people rushed to take some of the water. Bilal again went in and brought out a spear-headed stick, and then Allah’s Apostle came out. As if I were now looking at the whiteness of his leg. Bilal fixed the stick and the Prophet offered a two-Rakat Zuhr prayer and a two-Rak’at ‘Asr prayer, while women and donkeys were passing in front of the Prophet (beyond the stick).

    Sahih Muslim 8:3325
    Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) set out on an expedition to Khaibar and we observed our morning prayer in early hours of the dawn. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) then mounted and so did Abu Talha ride, and I was seating myself behind Abu Talha. Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) moved in the narrow street of Khaibar (and we rode so close to each other in the street) that my knee touched the leg of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him). (A part of the) lower garment of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) slipped from his leg and I could see the whiteness of the leg of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him). As he entered the habitation he called: Allah-o-Akbar (Allah is the Greatest)…

    Sahih Bukhari 1:8:367, See Also Sahih Muslim 19.4437:1
    Narrated ‘Abdul ‘Aziz: Anas said, ‘When Allah’s Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined…

    Sahih Muslim 4:1014
    Abu Juhaifa reported it on the authority of his father: I came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) in Mecca and he was (at that time) at al- Abtah in a red leather tent. And Bilal stepped out with ablution water for him. (And what was left out of that water) some of them got it (whereas others could not get it) and (those who got it) rubbed themselves with it. Then the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stepped out with a red mantle on him and I was catching a glimpse of the whiteness of his shanks. The narrator said: He (the Holy Prophet) performed the ablution…

    Sunan Abu Dawud 20:3200
    Narrated Al-Muttalib: When Uthman ibn Maz’un died, he was brought out on his bier and buried. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered a man to bring him a stone, but he was unable to carry it. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) got up and going over to it rolled up his sleeves. The narrator Kathir told that al-Muttalib remarked: The one who told me about the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: I still seem to see the whiteness of the forearms of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) when he rolled up his sleeves. He then carried it and placed it at his head saying: I am marking my brother’s grave with it, and I shall bury beside him those of my family who die.

    Narrated Abu Humaid As-Sa’idi: Allah’s Apostle employed an employee (to collect Zakat). The employee returned after completing his job and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! This (amount of Zakat) is for you, and this (other amount) was given to me as a present.” The Prophet said to him, “Why didn’t you stay at your father’s or mother’s house and see if you would be given presents or not?” Then Allah’s Apostle got up in the evening after the prayer, and having testified that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and praised and glorified Allah as He deserved, he said, “Now then ! What about an employee whom we employ and then he comes and says, ‘This amount (of Zakat) is for you, and this (amount) was given to me as a present’? Why didn’t he stay at the house of his father and mother to see if he would be given presents or not? By Him in Whose Hand Muhammad’s soul is, none of you will steal anything of it (i.e. Zakat) but will bring it by carrying it over his neck on the Day of Resurrection. If it has been a camel, he will bring it (over his neck) while it will be grunting, and if it has been a cow, he will bring it (over his neck), while it will be mooing; and if it has been a sheep, he will bring it (over his neck) while it will be bleeding.” The Prophet added, “I have preached you (Allah’s Message).” Abu Humaid said, “Then Allah’s Apostle raised his hands so high that we saw the whiteness of his armpits.”
    Sahih Bukhari 8:78:631, See Also Sahih Bukhari 9.086.108:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 9.089.286:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 9.089.305:1:1, Sahih Bukhari 3.047.769:1:1, Sahih Muslim 20.4511:1, Sahih Muslim 20.4509:1

    Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Malik: Ibn Buhaina, “When the Prophet prayed, he used to separate his arms from his body so widely that the whiteness of his armpits was visible.”
    Sahih Bukhari 1:8:385u, See Also Sahih Bukhari 2:17:141, Sahih Bukhari 1:12:771, Sahih Bukhari 4:56:765, Sahih Bukhari 4:56:766, Sahih Bukhari 8:75:392, Sahih Muslim 4:1000, Sahih Muslim 4:1001, Sahih Muslim 4:1003, Sahih Muslim 4:1004, Sahih Muslim 4:1951, Sahih Muslim 4:1953

    Narrated Abu Musa: When the Prophet had finished from the battle of Hunain, he sent Abu Amir at the head of an army to Autas He (i.e. Abu Amir) met Duraid bin As Summa and Duraid was killed and Allah defeated his companions. The Prophet sent me with Abu ‘Amir. Abu Amir was shot at his knee with an arrow which a man from Jushm had shot and fixed into his knee. I went to him and said, “O Uncle! Who shot you?” He pointed me out (his killer) saying, “That is my killer who shot me (with an arrow).” So I headed towards him and overtook him, and when he saw me, he fled, and I followed him and started saying to him, “Won’t you be ashamed? Won’t you stop?” So that person stopped, and we exchanged two hits with the swords and I killed him. Then I said to Abu ‘Amir. “Allah has killed your killer.” He said, “Take out this arrow” So I removed it, and water oozed out of the wound. He then said, “O son of my brother! Convey my compliments to the Prophet and request him to ask Allah’s Forgiveness for me.” Abu Amir made me his successor in commanding the people (i.e. troops). He survived for a short while and then died. (Later) I returned and entered upon the Prophet at his house, and found him lying in a bed made of stalks of date-palm leaves knitted with ropes, and on it there was bedding. The strings of the bed had their traces over his back and sides. Then I told the Prophet about our and Abu Amir’s news and how he had said “Tell him to ask for Allah’s Forgiveness for me.” The Prophet asked for water, performed ablution and then raised hands, saying, “O Allah’s Forgive ‘Ubaid, Abu Amir.” At that time I saw the whiteness of the Prophet’s armpits. The Prophet then said, “O Allah, make him (i.e. Abu Amir) on the Day of Resurrection, superior to many of Your human creatures.” I said, “Will you ask Allah’s Forgiveness for me?” (On that) the Prophet said, “O Allah, forgive the sins of ‘Abdullah bin Qais and admit him to a nice entrance (i.e. paradise) on the Day of Resurrection.” Abu Burda said, “One of the prayers was for Abu ‘Amir and the other was for Abu Musa (i.e. ‘Abdullah bin Qais).”
    Sahih Bukhari 5:59:612, See Also Sahih Muslim 31:6092, Sahih Muslim 31:6092

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:898
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: I came to the Prophet (peace be upon him) from behind. I saw the whiteness of his armpits and he kept his arms away from his sides and raised his stomach (from the ground).

    Sunan Abu Dawud 3:1169
    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The people complained to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) of the lack of rain, so he gave an order for a pulpit. It was then set up for him in the place of prayer. He fixed a day for the people on which they should come out. Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), when the rim of the sun appeared, sat down on the pulpit, and having pronounced the greatness of Allah and expressed His praise, he said: You have complained of drought in your homes, and of the delay in receiving rain at the beginning of its season. Allah has ordered you to supplicate Him has and promised that He will answer your prayer. Then he said: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Universe, the Compassionate, the Merciful, the Master of the Day of Judgment. There is no god but Allah Who does what He wishes. O Allah, Thou art Allah, there is no deity but Thou, the Rich, while we are the poor. Send down the rain upon us and make what Thou sendest down a strength and satisfaction for a time. He then raised his hands, and kept raising them till the whiteness under his armpits was visible. He then turned his back to the people and inverted or turned round his cloak while keeping his hands aloft. He then faced the people, descended and prayed two rak’ahs. Allah then produced a cloud, and the storm of thunder and lightning came on. Then the rain fell by Allah’s permission, and before he reached his mosque streams were flowing. When he saw the speed with which the people were seeking shelter, he (peace be upon him) laughed till his back teeth were visible. Then he said: I testify that Allah is Omnipotent and that I am Allah’s servant and apostle.

    Narrated Al-Bara’ bin ‘Azib: The Prophet was carrying earth with us on the day of the battle of Al-Ahzab (confederates) and I saw that the dust was covering the whiteness of his abdomen, and he (the Prophet ) was saying, “(O Allah) ! Without You, we would not have been guided, nor would we have given in charity, nor would we have prayed. So (O Allah!) please send tranquility (Sakina) upon us as they, (the chiefs of the enemy tribes) have rebelled against us. And if they intend affliction (i.e. want to frighten us and fight against us) then we would not (flee but withstand them). And the Prophet used to raise his voice with it. (See Hadith No. 430 and 432, Vol. 5)
    Sahih Bukhari 9:90:342, See Also Sahih Bukhari 4:52:90

    Sahih Muslim 19:4442
    It has been reported on the authority of Barra’ who said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was carrying the earth with us on the Day of Ahzab and the whiteness of his belly had been covered with earth. (While engaged in this toil) he was reciting:……

  144. If there is one thing the story of Robert the Bruce teaches us, it is that you should NEVER, EVER stand up for your own people!!

    Apparently…

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