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From the Telegraph:
DANIEL HANNAN
DECEMBER 2019 • 10:00AMImagine you had a fixed sum of money to spend on a new house. Other things being equal, would you rather spend it on a small house within walking distance of schools, shops and restaurants, or a large one from which you had to drive everywhere? How you answer is a surprisingly accurate indicator of how you vote.
While you’re pondering your response, take a look at a constituency map of Great Britain. Labour holds a third of the seats in the House of Commons, but you’d never guess that from the minuscule flecks of red. Measured only by land surface area, you’d think Labour was a tiny party, smaller than the Lib Dems and far smaller than the SNP.
The explanation, of course, is that Labour tends…
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One of the curious things about Anglophone political parties, such as Labour and the Democrats, is that although they still use the term “working” class to promote themselves, they have in fact become extremely hostile to people who actually work for a living. Instead they have thrown them over for their opposites: welfare parasites and Robert Reich’s “symbolic manipulators”*, in other words, those who don’t work, who impede work, or whose “work” has no productive value.
I think Reich preferred the term “symbolic analyst” in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract “work” is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.
Democratic Party 2019: gaslight workersReplies: @dvorak
Nowadays, with the increase in higher education and the relative decline of industrial employment and the relative rise of the service sector, all those radicals, malcontents, and immigrants are in higher ed or the service sector.
Short and sweet: billionaires, bureaucrats, bullshiteers, and other progressives. BBB+
Since the Labour Party has become the party of anti-semitic socialism it might be neater just to call it the Nazis.
By “anti-semitic” I do not mean the fake definition – i.e. someone who says anything that’s less than fawning about the actions or policies of the Israeli government – but the real definition: Jew-baiting.
For the outsider it’s hard to know how much of the Jew-baiting is sincere and how much is an attempt to cultivate the Moslem vote.
There are insincere Jew-haters? Who Knew?
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Developing: Black guy in Houston shoots black barber over haircut given to his 13-year-old son, perp and son flee scene, barber critical.
In a triumph of PR, Boris Johnson was pictured very ostentatiously cuddling his pet Jack Russell Terrier, Dillyn, outside the polling station where he cast his vote in the recent UK General Election.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
“Symbolic manipulator” sounds akin to “rent seeker.”
Can’t read the article. How long has The Telegraph had a paywall? We are really going to miss the good old days when content was free!
Stanford professor’s interesting explanation of how cat shit parasite toxoplasmosis gondii infects a host, makes it’s way to the amygdala and how it could theoretically alter host behavior.
https://www.sciencealert.com/there-s-little-evidence-that-the-infamous-cat-parasite-causes-psychological-changes-in-humans-study-finds
Stories like this are just too lurid and clickworthy to ever die. We'll be reading about it a half century from now, along with MSG syndrome, vitamin C curing colds, vitamin E helping sex, and so on.
How about not having filthy animals in your house unless you actually need to? (Home defense, farm working animals etc.)
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
Do the Democrats even pretend about the Working Class thing anymore? It is certainly still big in UK Labour rhetoric, but it seems to be absent from Democratic rhetoric and talking points of late.
I looked at the June Democratic Debate transcript and searched for "working". Results:
"working families": 4 mentions
"working people": 1 mention
"working class": 1 mention
So six mentions in about two hours of speechifying seems like it is still pretty current.
Tellingly, one of the mentions was Kamala Harris promoting a non-rich tax cut, which she called "a middle class and working families tax cut". This shows how carefully the Dems have conditioned themselves to avoid the "working class" formulation. Even when she already began her statement with the term "middle class", she immediately code-switches to "working families" when adding the working class to her appeal.
Also, tellingly, the sole mention of "working class" was by political neophyte Buttigieg. He's probably too recent of a college grad to know not to use classroom language in front voters.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
The “symbolic” distinction always seemed silly to me. Plenty of jobs manipulate or analyze symbols but do real work.
Cats only have loyalty to themselves. ‘Nuff said.
I’m not a subscriber to The Telegraph, so can but wonder if Hannan mentioned the ‘m’ word at all re: Labour voters and cat-owners?
Muslims in the UK are predominately Labour supporters, predominately reside in the inner-city high-density areas, and of course dogs are haram.
I wonder what will become of England as a nation of dog-lovers, if and when Muslims wield/gain the whiphand of political power there…
Does PETA dare set foot in Dearborn?
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
Productive, yes – or no? is no question that can be answered using formal criteria. Such questions can only be seriously answered within a (chosen) set of values.
Historian Arno Borst used the (formally) simple concept of life-forms (Lebensformen), to answer this question with regard to the Middle Ages – not least in his quite redable and entertaining book Medieval Worlds – Barbarians, Heretics and Artists in the Middle Ages (in the German original: Lebensformen im Mittelalter) – the English title of the book is a tad misleading because Borst was not at all against Catholicism.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
Yeah, this is a good catch. Engineers skew very conservative, and doctors are pretty conservative too. Even family medicine docs may start out liberal, but the wacky and self-destructive patients they constantly have to deal with eventually preclude total wokeness.
I want you to have this job. Of course…
Also, cats are obviously much easier to care for than dogs if one lives in an apartment, brownstone townhouse, or any other dwelling without a lawn, and it’s easier to have several cats than several dogs.
Now, not only do lots of people have toy dogs, but also some idiots have gotten very large dogs for tiny city apartments, e.g. SJWs rescuing pitbulls and claiming they aren't more aggressive than other dogs.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
My favorites are those who keep the catbox in the kitchen. Them's the geniuses.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
This Reich guy needs to really cool it with the anti-Semitism! Very offensive tropes about manipulation.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
Democratic Party 1919: workers who keep the gas lights on
Democratic Party 2019: gaslight workers
The size of the dog also tells you a lot about people–Boris Johnson’s little yapper is _not_ a good sign.
Getting a big dog to regular vet appointments in an Uber in Manhattan is no picnic either.
So: Progressives tend to live in crowded cities with expensive cramped housing. People in cramped housing (who aren't cruel assholes) own small dogs. The dog size-politics correlation is a coincidence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat)
Macron and Trudeau have much larger dogs:Meet the World’s Most Powerful Pets
FDR and Churchill kept pipsqueaks, and they flattened Europe and Japan.https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03101/churchill-dog_3101358b.jpghttps://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/fdr-dog-01.jpgReplies: @Anonymous
This is an interesting finding.
I’m an outlier. I like dogs but I love cats.
Yet I would vote Conservative.
I’m a cat person.
Trump doesnt do pets. Doesnt have time for that BS
Dogs generally like and help people: Cats generally use and only occasionally appease people.
Yeah, dogs like human beings and cats don't: just like normal people vs. the Left.
(I had both as a kid and neither now, so I'm neutral: I am just noticing facts.)
Serious OT: UK going a bit coo-coo. Well, it’s not as if this wasn’t visibly coming, and it will likely go further.
License to kill for Britain’s secret service makes UK a police state
“You TRUST the State. Don’t you?”
(Btw, the Post Office is State, right? I hear they put their own personnel in prison now for “fraud” to cover up the fact the arsey Fujitsu-sourced IT system cannot balance the books. Then try to get the judge looking into this story removed for good measure. Right out of a Burkina Faso stylebook. Great stuff.)
In the US, a lot of Dem voters like dogs — Pit Bulls and Chihuahuas especially.
Speaking of dogs and ethnicity, here’s a rich mine of iStevey information…
http://projects.latimes.com/dogs/
Before the rise of the tiny little “toy” dog movement amongst millenials, if you had a pet in a city, it was assumed you had a cat.
Now, not only do lots of people have toy dogs, but also some idiots have gotten very large dogs for tiny city apartments, e.g. SJWs rescuing pitbulls and claiming they aren’t more aggressive than other dogs.
I don’t think dog size has anything to do with anything besides the floor space of your living quarters and the size of your yard. It’s cruel to keep a large dog in a small New York walkup. Imagine if you were literally two or three times as tall as your are, living in your current digs (assuming sufficiently tall ceilings). You’d feel a little claustrophobic.
Getting a big dog to regular vet appointments in an Uber in Manhattan is no picnic either.
So: Progressives tend to live in crowded cities with expensive cramped housing. People in cramped housing (who aren’t cruel assholes) own small dogs. The dog size-politics correlation is a coincidence.
Is this how the Telegraph staff write for the U.S. edition?
For some reason many of the cramped apartment buildings near Stevens Square park in Minneapolis had a very liberal pet policy 15 years ago, and that park was always full of large dogs. It may have been one big management firm. My wife’s old apartment there hardly seemed to have room for her cat, but you could feel the Danes and mastiffs in the adjacent flats shake the walls and floors with their barking.
No data on their (masters’!) voting habits. Young white folks, mostly, starting out. Maybe in from the suburbs, and just out of college.
Perhaps it was meant to be symbolic.
I’m sure Larry the Cat has a large say in who gets to share his lair, 10 Downing. Boris appears to be his fifth PM. They come and go.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat)
Macron and Trudeau have much larger dogs:
Meet the World’s Most Powerful Pets
FDR and Churchill kept pipsqueaks, and they flattened Europe and Japan.
No way would I have owned a dog before stay-at-home motherhood.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
The older Democratic party was led by urbanites, intellectuals, wealthy rentiers, and media people, just like it is today. It’s just that back then, the malcontents and immigrants they led were in the industrial “working class.”
Nowadays, with the increase in higher education and the relative decline of industrial employment and the relative rise of the service sector, all those radicals, malcontents, and immigrants are in higher ed or the service sector.
‘FDR and Churchill kept pipsqueaks, and they flattened Europe and Japan.’
Yeah; but Hitler owned a German Shepherd. Some kind of moral there — but I’m not sure what.
The two nicest dogs I've ever known were a German Shepherd (male) a pitty bitch.
Although I was always very very careful not to move quickly around the bitch. Not that she was skittish. I was. Around her.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat)
Macron and Trudeau have much larger dogs:Meet the World’s Most Powerful Pets
FDR and Churchill kept pipsqueaks, and they flattened Europe and Japan.https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03101/churchill-dog_3101358b.jpghttps://www.dogster.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/fdr-dog-01.jpgReplies: @Anonymous
The conservative Churchill loved cats.
Doctors tilt much less conservative than they used to, though it does vary widely depending on speciality. Partially that’s the result of the feminization of the field, partially the decline of entrepreneurial-style private practice, and partially it’s the wider realignment of the Democratic Party toward the values and interests of well-credentialed urbanites.
Yeah; but Hitler owned a German Shepherd. Some kind of moral there -- but I'm not sure what.Replies: @Jane Plain
There is none.
The two nicest dogs I’ve ever known were a German Shepherd (male) a pitty bitch.
Although I was always very very careful not to move quickly around the bitch. Not that she was skittish. I was. Around her.
The Jack Russell is a fantastic little dog, a bouncing, barking ball of energy. My opinion of Boris J improved immensely upon learning of this pet.
If I recall correctly, in the US, households with both a dog and cat are significantly less likely to be Far Left. My guess is that it is a better marker that people have children, than a single dog or cat alone.
OT: Pioneering white male aeronaut denied his place in history; women and minorities hardest hit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/20/aeronauts-tries-fictionalize-history-makes-big-blunder
Of topic, but we may have the last hoax of 2019;
The Tesco Christmas Card Hoax
https://www.williamofockham.com/2019/12/23/the-tesco-christmas-card-hoax-of-2019/
By "anti-semitic" I do not mean the fake definition - i.e. someone who says anything that's less than fawning about the actions or policies of the Israeli government - but the real definition: Jew-baiting.
For the outsider it's hard to know how much of the Jew-baiting is sincere and how much is an attempt to cultivate the Moslem vote.Replies: @iffen, @Altai, @J.Ross
For the outsider it’s hard to know how much of the Jew-baiting is sincere and how much is an attempt to cultivate the Moslem vote.
There are insincere Jew-haters? Who Knew?
Labour and the Dems are still officially the parties of the working class, so at least they accidentally stumble on good policy every once in a while.
The Tories and the Republicans have always been the party of finance capitalism, rent seeking, and inherited wealth. The last time the Republicans had a meaningful pro-worker policy, Teddy Roosevelt was President.
By "anti-semitic" I do not mean the fake definition - i.e. someone who says anything that's less than fawning about the actions or policies of the Israeli government - but the real definition: Jew-baiting.
For the outsider it's hard to know how much of the Jew-baiting is sincere and how much is an attempt to cultivate the Moslem vote.Replies: @iffen, @Altai, @J.Ross
Ok, Boomer.
By "anti-semitic" I do not mean the fake definition - i.e. someone who says anything that's less than fawning about the actions or policies of the Israeli government - but the real definition: Jew-baiting.
For the outsider it's hard to know how much of the Jew-baiting is sincere and how much is an attempt to cultivate the Moslem vote.Replies: @iffen, @Altai, @J.Ross
Not to encourage you but Andrew Sullivan has tweeted that the political future is economically leftist and socially conservative.
That and the wholesale importation of the Brahmin class from India to the medical profession. There may be some good ones but I haven’t had any (four and counting) while the last two younger white males were outstanding.
> Engineers skew very conservative
This is not true for software engineering, though you can argue that software jobs aren’t truly engineering. Is it software engineering, or computer science?
Regardless of what you call it, the demographics are mostly male but strongly progressive, at least in the elite companies. I’m not entirely sure why, but I have some thoughts.
The basic question is whether progressive minds are attracted to software, or the work itself bends the mind to progressivism. Whatever the order, there are aspects that make software and leftism well-matched.
Software is abstract, whereas many conservatives like the concrete. It it the opposite of zero-sum — software, once written, can be copied and given to everyone on the earth for essentially no cost. Within the world of software, socialist-style movements such as Linux or FSF have been enormously successful and influential. Indeed, software startup companies benefit tremendously from such movements, as they stand on the shoulders of many, many contributors to free and open software.
Much software work is individualistic, which probably reduces the need for traditional masculine ideas like cooperation, hierarchy, and loyalty. A small number of brilliant coders can have an outsized impact, given the lack of cost in copying software.
Finally, the work environment is generally young, wealthy and filled with like-minded, talented foreigners. Free from the hoi polloi, it thus presents a distorted, Utopian view of human variation.
Thus, to a software engineer, the progressive ideals actually work. Free sharing, individualism, and multiracialism all work in the field.
Software folks don’t understand that this isn’t the majority of the world.
It's because y'all don't get much tail.
Both of them are enormous, Hitlery-supporting liberal freaks. Even more interestingly both of them are in stable, hetero marriages. One of of them is trying to live the traditional US American lifestyle.
So did Benedict XVI. He fed the Vatican strays.
This reactionary loves other people’s dogs, but prefers a cat at home. Much less maintenance. Can be used as a heating pad, too.
Democratic Party 2019: gaslight workersReplies: @dvorak
Well done!
This is not true for software engineering, though you can argue that software jobs aren't truly engineering. Is it software engineering, or computer science?
Regardless of what you call it, the demographics are mostly male but strongly progressive, at least in the elite companies. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have some thoughts.
The basic question is whether progressive minds are attracted to software, or the work itself bends the mind to progressivism. Whatever the order, there are aspects that make software and leftism well-matched.
Software is abstract, whereas many conservatives like the concrete. It it the opposite of zero-sum -- software, once written, can be copied and given to everyone on the earth for essentially no cost. Within the world of software, socialist-style movements such as Linux or FSF have been enormously successful and influential. Indeed, software startup companies benefit tremendously from such movements, as they stand on the shoulders of many, many contributors to free and open software.
Much software work is individualistic, which probably reduces the need for traditional masculine ideas like cooperation, hierarchy, and loyalty. A small number of brilliant coders can have an outsized impact, given the lack of cost in copying software.
Finally, the work environment is generally young, wealthy and filled with like-minded, talented foreigners. Free from the hoi polloi, it thus presents a distorted, Utopian view of human variation.
Thus, to a software engineer, the progressive ideals actually work. Free sharing, individualism, and multiracialism all work in the field.
Software folks don't understand that this isn't the majority of the world.Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard, @David Davenport
tl;dr
It’s because y’all don’t get much tail.
Now, not only do lots of people have toy dogs, but also some idiots have gotten very large dogs for tiny city apartments, e.g. SJWs rescuing pitbulls and claiming they aren't more aggressive than other dogs.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
I have this in my apartment complex. It’s pretty disturbing they don’t have a tighter weight limit on dogs here, like 25 or 30 lbs maximum. It’s not like there isn’t enough demand for housing here.
Anyway, the hallways here are about 2 or 3 feet too narrow. It’s amazing how offended the SJWs get when Fido starts drooling and growling before he makes a move to take a chunk out of your left calf muscle and you adopt a defensive stance in response. As if their proclamation, “oh, he’s really friendly,” alters the reality of the situation like a magic spell.
Personally, I feel a lot more secure on the nights I’m carrying home ski poles or a couple wine bottles.
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
The actual working class (semi-skilled blue and pink collar workers) is pretty politically irrelevant in Anglo politics. Its all about the lower middle class (self-employed retailers, skilled tradesmen etc) and the upper middle class (doctors, lawyers, civil servants etc). In the US, only half the adult population votes, and very few working class whites actually vote. Hence, Trump didn’t win over the working class, he won over the lower-middle class. The situation is slightly different in the UK, since Britain is a more socialist country than the US, but there are still a lot of working class whites that are politically apathetic and never bother voting.
As far as the centre-left goes, it hasn’t so much abandoned the working class, as its abandoned the lower-middle class and now focuses on upper-middle class urbanites, which includes a high proportion of LGBTs and minorities. A classic example is the Liberal Democrat Party in the UK, which has gone from being a progressive lower-middle class party to a virtue signalling upper-middle class party which only wins seats in affluent liberal areas.
This is not true for software engineering, though you can argue that software jobs aren't truly engineering. Is it software engineering, or computer science?
Regardless of what you call it, the demographics are mostly male but strongly progressive, at least in the elite companies. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have some thoughts.
The basic question is whether progressive minds are attracted to software, or the work itself bends the mind to progressivism. Whatever the order, there are aspects that make software and leftism well-matched.
Software is abstract, whereas many conservatives like the concrete. It it the opposite of zero-sum -- software, once written, can be copied and given to everyone on the earth for essentially no cost. Within the world of software, socialist-style movements such as Linux or FSF have been enormously successful and influential. Indeed, software startup companies benefit tremendously from such movements, as they stand on the shoulders of many, many contributors to free and open software.
Much software work is individualistic, which probably reduces the need for traditional masculine ideas like cooperation, hierarchy, and loyalty. A small number of brilliant coders can have an outsized impact, given the lack of cost in copying software.
Finally, the work environment is generally young, wealthy and filled with like-minded, talented foreigners. Free from the hoi polloi, it thus presents a distorted, Utopian view of human variation.
Thus, to a software engineer, the progressive ideals actually work. Free sharing, individualism, and multiracialism all work in the field.
Software folks don't understand that this isn't the majority of the world.Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard, @David Davenport
I know at least one Director and one Engineering Manager who spent the technical part of their careers focused on hardware.
Both of them are enormous, Hitlery-supporting liberal freaks. Even more interestingly both of them are in stable, hetero marriages. One of of them is trying to live the traditional US American lifestyle.
The Alarmist wrote:
I was going to make the same point but you beat me to it and were more pithy!
Yeah, dogs like human beings and cats don’t: just like normal people vs. the Left.
(I had both as a kid and neither now, so I’m neutral: I am just noticing facts.)
Cats mean boxes of shit in your house. Meaning you are filthy and out of your mind.
My favorites are those who keep the catbox in the kitchen. Them’s the geniuses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m3x3TMdkGdQReplies: @Anon, @alex in San Jose AKA digital Detroit
This cat-human personality change parasite thing has been debunked. The New York Times Well column discussed it a year or two ago. Here is some recent research:
https://www.sciencealert.com/there-s-little-evidence-that-the-infamous-cat-parasite-causes-psychological-changes-in-humans-study-finds
Stories like this are just too lurid and clickworthy to ever die. We’ll be reading about it a half century from now, along with MSG syndrome, vitamin C curing colds, vitamin E helping sex, and so on.
This is not true for software engineering, though you can argue that software jobs aren't truly engineering. Is it software engineering, or computer science?
Regardless of what you call it, the demographics are mostly male but strongly progressive, at least in the elite companies. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have some thoughts.
The basic question is whether progressive minds are attracted to software, or the work itself bends the mind to progressivism. Whatever the order, there are aspects that make software and leftism well-matched.
Software is abstract, whereas many conservatives like the concrete. It it the opposite of zero-sum -- software, once written, can be copied and given to everyone on the earth for essentially no cost. Within the world of software, socialist-style movements such as Linux or FSF have been enormously successful and influential. Indeed, software startup companies benefit tremendously from such movements, as they stand on the shoulders of many, many contributors to free and open software.
Much software work is individualistic, which probably reduces the need for traditional masculine ideas like cooperation, hierarchy, and loyalty. A small number of brilliant coders can have an outsized impact, given the lack of cost in copying software.
Finally, the work environment is generally young, wealthy and filled with like-minded, talented foreigners. Free from the hoi polloi, it thus presents a distorted, Utopian view of human variation.
Thus, to a software engineer, the progressive ideals actually work. Free sharing, individualism, and multiracialism all work in the field.
Software folks don't understand that this isn't the majority of the world.Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard, @David Davenport
Computer programmers, pardon me, “software engineers,” are low T girly males.
Conservatives tend to want kids, and it’s nice to have a larger house and yard for them to play in. You could of course let them run around the city, sure, but Google “Rotherham rape gangs” to find out why that may not be such a good idea. And as for why having to drive isn’t an inconvenience, driving four kids 15 miles in a Yukon is a hell of a lot easier than carting four kids four blocks on foot with all their crap. If you’re a poor Pakistani immigrant woman with no job mooching off the welfare system then the wasted time may not mean much, but British mothers, who are also expected to hold jobs, may want to make more efficient use of their time. And they need those jobs, of course, so that they don’t have to live in neighborhoods surrounded by hostile Muslim and Afro-Carib immigrants.
All of this could be easily figured out, of course, if journalists actually bothered to ask the people they’re writing about. God forbid they do such a thing.
The irony is that for all the alleged concern about the environment and sprawl, the easiest way to get Brits (and Americans) to live in more densely packed neighborhoods where they didn’t need to drive so much….is to put them in a position where they could do so without feeling like they’re living in Karachi or Mogadishu. The fact that the Left won’t allow them that option tells you how little they actually care about the environment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m3x3TMdkGdQReplies: @Anon, @alex in San Jose AKA digital Detroit
Thanks for posting this.
How about not having filthy animals in your house unless you actually need to? (Home defense, farm working animals etc.)
Can’t stand Hannan, neocon libertarian autist.
I suspect we might have an all time high in polarisation. Of course minoriteis live in cities, dogs and cats are a side issue. I don’t think affordable family formation works here, everywhere is expensive and the ultra rich South East of England has always been a Tory heartland whereas the cheaper North had been Labour.
Basically the Conservatives won a whole bunch of British voters from Labour.
Danny Boy Hannan is in the pocket of Jews Organized Globally -- JOG -- and he is a total whore for the Israel First Neo-Conservatives.
Danny Hannan doesn't have the wise decency to disregard Marine Le Pen's reflexive and natural distrust of the American Empire, and he made nasty cracks about Marine Le Pen.
Marine Le Pen is French and people in the USA and England should make some accommodation to her non-English eccentricities, like not trusting English apes.
Hannan is Irish and Scottish and he should refrain from judging French Frog Patriots like Le Pen too harshly. I have Irish and Scottish blood like Hannan and English blood too, but I let the French enjoy their anti-English hobby without getting bothered by it.
The Irish and the Scottish have a peculiar habit of whoring themselves out to Jews Organized Globally -- JOG -- and to the globalized Neo-Conservative Crime Syndicate.
Tweets from 2014 and 2015:
https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/616589233785053184
https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/524922802668072960
All of this could be easily figured out, of course, if journalists actually bothered to ask the people they’re writing about. God forbid they do such a thing.
The irony is that for all the alleged concern about the environment and sprawl, the easiest way to get Brits (and Americans) to live in more densely packed neighborhoods where they didn’t need to drive so much....is to put them in a position where they could do so without feeling like they’re living in Karachi or Mogadishu. The fact that the Left won’t allow them that option tells you how little they actually care about the environment.Replies: @Anonymous
Paul Kersey frequently makes this point as well: the whole progressive lifestyle (inner-city-living, public transport, lax law-enforcement,…) is only doable in the absence of a significant amount of Nams. At the same time progressives are for a lot of immigration of Nams.
I am one of those oddities with far right political ideology (by today’s standards) but who enjoys city amenities. I could also like a rural homesteader set-up, which might be necessary when the boogaloo commences. It is the suburbs that stink — a yard too small to do anything with yet you still have to drive all the time. As for cats and dogs, I like both, but all animals have to live outside, as God intended.
I enjoy city or country living, but to hell with the 'burbs!
Almost on cue:
Older Beckies tell younger Becky owning a dog is the key to success:
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/powerful-women-told-me-getting-a-dog-is-the-key-to-success-they-were-right
Actually, only 7 of 50 older Beckies that the younger Becky interviewed said that.
And the younger Becky appears to be one of our fellow wypipo.
You sound like me.
I enjoy city or country living, but to hell with the ‘burbs!
Muslims cannot keep dogs as pets, only cats, according to Islam. I guess it goes a long way explaining the gap, since Pakis vote Labour.
That’s what became of Daniel Hannan?
I think Reich preferred the term "symbolic analyst" in his writing because he wanted to conjure up engineers, medical doctors, and others whose work was abstract but still productive. But the Labour/Democrat parties have an unerringly diabolical instinct to attract only those workers whose abstract "work" is useless or destructive: government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists, and others of whom the late-stage Anglophone empires seem to have an over ample supply.Replies: @Coemgen, @anonymous, @Dave Pinsen, @Dieter Kief, @Faraday's Bobcat, @BIG DUCK, @Abe, @Anonymous, @alt right moderate, @theo the kraut
> government bureaucrats, diversity consultants, NYT journalists, Hollywood producers, grievance lobbyists, ethnic activists
Short and sweet: billionaires, bureaucrats, bullshiteers, and other progressives. BBB+
To each their own Steve but I’m more a cat person. 1 to 4 cata though tops, unless I live in the country and theyre outdoor critters.
more shithole countries eat cats than dogs…just sayin’
what? ok, I get it. I have good stories about my dogs.
Reasonable question. Yes, the Dems still do pretend to care about the working class, though they don’t say “working class” so much anymore, probably because it sounds too academic and pretentious for the demotic tone they wish to strike. Instead they like to say “working families” (i.e., evoking illegal immigrant clans out in crop rows) or “working mothers” (i.e., evoking key demographic divorced or unwed mothers) or, in a pinch, the blandly unobjectionable “working people”.
I looked at the June Democratic Debate transcript and searched for “working”. Results:
“working families”: 4 mentions
“working people”: 1 mention
“working class”: 1 mention
So six mentions in about two hours of speechifying seems like it is still pretty current.
Tellingly, one of the mentions was Kamala Harris promoting a non-rich tax cut, which she called “a middle class and working families tax cut”. This shows how carefully the Dems have conditioned themselves to avoid the “working class” formulation. Even when she already began her statement with the term “middle class”, she immediately code-switches to “working families” when adding the working class to her appeal.
Also, tellingly, the sole mention of “working class” was by political neophyte Buttigieg. He’s probably too recent of a college grad to know not to use classroom language in front voters.
Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
I can’t stand that snide bald bastard Danny Hannan either. I’m bald too, but I ain’t snide.
Danny Boy Hannan is in the pocket of Jews Organized Globally — JOG — and he is a total whore for the Israel First Neo-Conservatives.
Danny Hannan doesn’t have the wise decency to disregard Marine Le Pen’s reflexive and natural distrust of the American Empire, and he made nasty cracks about Marine Le Pen.
Marine Le Pen is French and people in the USA and England should make some accommodation to her non-English eccentricities, like not trusting English apes.
Hannan is Irish and Scottish and he should refrain from judging French Frog Patriots like Le Pen too harshly. I have Irish and Scottish blood like Hannan and English blood too, but I let the French enjoy their anti-English hobby without getting bothered by it.
The Irish and the Scottish have a peculiar habit of whoring themselves out to Jews Organized Globally — JOG — and to the globalized Neo-Conservative Crime Syndicate.
Tweets from 2014 and 2015: