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Murder had been declining in the United States in the two decades after the lethal Crack Wars of the late 1980-1990s. But then The Establishment decided about a decade ago that America’s big problem was too much law and order. So, after the celebrated emergence of Black Lives Matter at Ferguson in August 2014, we got less law and order, good and hard as H.L. Mencken might say about today’s elites.

Culminating at the Dallas Police Massacre of July 2016, this led to the election of Donald Trump and the appointment of Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, which coincided with a decline in murder. But in mid-2019 this downward trend ended and with the “racial reckoning” being declared by the Good and the Great at the end of May 2020, murders shot upward as cops were told that the politicians didn’t support them stop pulling dubious characters over anymore.

So the dubious characters stashed their illegal handguns in the glove compartments, which was convenient when somebody dissed them. Not surprisingly, murders exploded by a historic amount in 2020 and stayed high in 2021, with shootings up even more.

But of course the colossal increase in murders since George Floyd’s death couldn’t possibly have anything to do with politics. Instead, the slaughter must be due to the Bad Guys, not due to the Good Guys according to the ultimate Good Guys at the NY Times:

The Right’s Violence Problem

The Buffalo killings are part of a pattern: Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.

By David Leonhardt
May 17, 2022

Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.

Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75 percent. Islamic extremists were responsible for about 20 percent, and left-wing extremists were responsible for 4 percent.

Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists:

Not surprisingly, the methology of the ADL and the NYT is tendentious in the extreme:

 
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  1. Facts and logic won’t win this war. Voting won’t. Boycotts won’t. I’ll leave the reader to surmise what will.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @AndrewR


    Facts and logic won’t win this war. Voting won’t. Boycotts won’t. I’ll leave the reader to surmise what will.
     
    Executive Orders!
  2. There are more lies being told these days than there are people who can figure them out. The ADL has been warned about this, in Revelation.

    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    , @Richard B
    @Achmed E. Newman


    What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    Here's one answer.
    https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/live-not-by-lies

    It does get really tiring.
     
    Sure does. They simply can not function without a Scapegoat.
    Life without one for them is inconceivable. The good news is there's lots of detalied and interesting information on the Internet about the scapegoat from family to culture.

    Should come in handy for whites, since they're now the official Global Scapegoat.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  3. Lying, cheating, and hypocrisy are considered admirable skills by these people. You’re not going to beat them by appealing to reason, honesty, or facts.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Technite78

    Always Defaming and Lying

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Technite78

    Even if the lying statistic were correct, it would only amount to 35 victims of "white extremism" per year, in a nation of 330 million. Or roughly a one in 10 million chance of being a victim. (And that's ignoring that most of those killings were probably intra-gang as well).

    Yet I have known otherwise sensible people who refuse to visit entire states due to media-induced hysterical fear of "white supremacists." The NYT, the ADL, and their ilk, are really the toxic liars who are dividing America. Pure trash.

    P.S., Julia Ioff is the psychotic lady reporter whose beat is to pretend that the Russians are controlling everything through the wires in your house. A real wack-job.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Patrick Gibbs

  4. Now, ask the ADL to do Israeli on Palestinian crime.

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  5. This sort of statistical analysis is worth nothing if it doesn’t advance a” worthy” cause, or at least has something “worthy” for elite people people to promote so plebs ca follow.

    “” something people in power have mandated as demonstrative of human affinity and such must get a tax reward

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    It's important that if you're promoting something that would benefit all people , especially lower paid , basic wage, people that one appeals to a sense of grandiosity on behalf of the rapacious left who're exploiting the working class at the rate of literal rape.

    It's important that one stands by them, is one of them, will ultimately sink or swim with "them."

    And on that note, I want the world to know that I'm not right wing, I believe in socialism and at the same time I have a sense of belonging to my people which in any other circumstance would be adulated.

    I wish the world would understand that my vast accumulated wealth should remain untouched, inviolate, on account of my clearly higher plain morality as borne out by my well born birth, especially on climate change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWG9KAgD6UA

  6. As must be repeated:

    Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a communist terrorist group.

    • Agree: tyrone
    • Replies: @Gore 2004
    @R.G. Camara

    White liberal Eric Stone will disagree, he finds white people and Trump supporters to be terrorists.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxbZZCFtt6/

    , @War for Blair Mountain
    @R.G. Camara

    Funded by the Capitalist Pig Class…

    Black Lives Matter is organization that was paid by the Capitalist Pig Class to racially intimate White People…..

    Black Lives Matter violated the Civil Rights of White Americans…

    , @Mike Tre
    @R.G. Camara

    Racial supremacy group.

  7. @R.G. Camara
    As must be repeated:

    Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a communist terrorist group.

    Replies: @Gore 2004, @War for Blair Mountain, @Mike Tre

    White liberal Eric Stone will disagree, he finds white people and Trump supporters to be terrorists.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CFxbZZCFtt6/

  8. Blame the ADL and Leo Frank…..

    ADL violence….The mutilated corpse of 13 year old Mary Feigin….google the photo….put the photo up in the comments section……

    And don’t forget this:The USS Liberty….how is that for violence?….Then think:‘the ADL….

    They ADL really does hate us…Haters hate….

  9. How many of the victims of these (real or alleged) white supremacists were white? I would guess most of them – probably the overwhelming majority, in fact. If your only proof that a murderer is a “right wing extremist” is that he’s a member of a white prison gang (usually joined while in prison to protect yourself from black thugs) then at the very least they should only count the victims who aren’t members of the “Aryan race.”

    The truth is that the essential aspect of most of these gangs, regardless of race, is that they are criminals. Their only ideology is their own self-interest, and the majority of the people they victimize are of their own race – often even their own families. In fact the Hispanic and black gangs have much higher rates of interracial violence than the white ones.

    But ~338 “white supremacist” murders over the last decade – about 34/year; or 0.17% of murders committed in 2021 – is basically nothing in a country that is 65% white and now has over 20,000 murders per year. Members of black and Hispanic gangs murder at least 338 people every single year. Muslim extremists are a far, far smaller percentage of the American population but have probably committed about 3,500 murders in the last 22 years, which is 160/year.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @Wilkey

    Get one of these clever sophists drunk and I'm sure they'll be as "racist" as can be in their explanation of "Blacks kill each other all the time, it's just what they do!" or something like that.

    Most liberals are closeted George Wallaces when you get down to it. "Racist" conservative whites are usually much more discerning than they are given credit for whereas liberals accuse others of painting with a broad brush because they themselves think that way.

  10. @Wilkey
    How many of the victims of these (real or alleged) white supremacists were white? I would guess most of them - probably the overwhelming majority, in fact. If your only proof that a murderer is a “right wing extremist” is that he’s a member of a white prison gang (usually joined while in prison to protect yourself from black thugs) then at the very least they should only count the victims who aren’t members of the “Aryan race.”

    The truth is that the essential aspect of most of these gangs, regardless of race, is that they are criminals. Their only ideology is their own self-interest, and the majority of the people they victimize are of their own race - often even their own families. In fact the Hispanic and black gangs have much higher rates of interracial violence than the white ones.

    But ~338 “white supremacist” murders over the last decade - about 34/year; or 0.17% of murders committed in 2021 - is basically nothing in a country that is 65% white and now has over 20,000 murders per year. Members of black and Hispanic gangs murder at least 338 people every single year. Muslim extremists are a far, far smaller percentage of the American population but have probably committed about 3,500 murders in the last 22 years, which is 160/year.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    Get one of these clever sophists drunk and I’m sure they’ll be as “racist” as can be in their explanation of “Blacks kill each other all the time, it’s just what they do!” or something like that.

    Most liberals are closeted George Wallaces when you get down to it. “Racist” conservative whites are usually much more discerning than they are given credit for whereas liberals accuse others of painting with a broad brush because they themselves think that way.

  11. Was it an increase in murder do to BLM, or an increase in murder do to the so-called, “President” and his daily instigation, or was it an increase in murder do to vaccination?

  12. SFG says:

    In another tweet, Friedman makes the argument that the Great Replacement is basically the same as the Emerging Democratic Majority…but most Hispanics are somewhat European so it’ll be more like the Italians, Polish, and Irish who eventually assimilated.

    Hope he’s right. Thing is, the Italians, Polish, and Irish didn’t get set asides for identifying as that, and weren’t encouraged to hate the English (though the Irish probably didn’t need any encouragement for that last one).

    • Thanks: Calvin Hobbes
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @SFG

    “ but most Hispanics are somewhat European so it’ll be more like the Italians, Polish, and Irish who eventually assimilated.”

    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.

    https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2018/10/26/AP_18297593607511.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack

  13. I love the fact that the ADL data counts a murder (of a white man) committed in North Ogden, Utah as a “white supremacist” murder. Perhaps one of the most famous sets of murders committed in the US happened in Ogden. At least three, and perhaps as many as six, black Air Force enlistees robbed a HiFi shop, and held five white victims hostage. During that time they tortured them, forced them to swallow Drano, raped one of them (an 18 year old girl, who humiliated herself in hopes they would let her live, to no avail), and then shot them and left them for dead. Three of them did die. One of them, just 16-years-old, managed to survive another 28 years with an esophagus made from part of his own intestine. He could eat, but just barely. His father was a beloved ob/gyn who just barely passed away a few years ago well into his 90s.

    The HiFi murders happened before I was born, but they were so gruesome that even I heard of them while growing up. There was a terrific book (“Victim,” by Gary Kinder) and a television movie made about them. Nevertheless when the dates for the executions of the murderers came due, the NAACP threw a fit.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Wilkey

    I remember that case, though just barely. It's interesting which horrific interracial crimes are ignored by the documentarians (whether true crime tv or movies) and which ones are renewed in our memories. Think Emmett Till v. the Zebra Murders. There have been so many of these brutal interracial murder/torture/rapes over the years but after they're reported on once, they fade from memory. There was one I remember from the early 90's (maybe late 80's) of a young woman who was kidnapped, tortured, repeatedly gang raped, explicitly for "400 years of oppression" and then thrown in a bath tub half alive and bathed in bleach before they shot her in the had. I want to say this was in North or South Carolina. Anyone know which one I'm talking about?

    , @Alden
    @Wilkey

    NAACP was founded by ADL members . And is now and always will be a front group for ADL. At some point I forget when,NAACP blacks decided that a black association should by run by blacks. So they managed to get rid of the Jews. Under the blacks, NAACP has dwindled in influence and membership. At one point NAACP had so little money they planned to file for bankruptcy. But Ford Foundation bailed them out with a huge donation.

    The foundations are one of the most destructive detrimental things in America. They fund all the destruction from school desegregation to transgender. Who knows what they will do next. Probably lower the age of consent to 6. Or make it illegal for Whites to vote because of social justice.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Alden
    @Wilkey

    Good thing his Dad was a Dr. Always helpful to have a medic in the family.

    Those Airmen should never have been born. Not the parents grandparents and ancestors who passed the vicious genes down to them.

    I’ve always heard the Air Force has higher standards than the army. Guess not. Wonder what it’s like being a White sailor on a huge ship with 5,000 savages and 1,000 Whites.

  14. @Pat Hannagan
    This sort of statistical analysis is worth nothing if it doesn't advance a" worthy" cause, or at least has something "worthy" for elite people people to promote so plebs ca follow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvUBf5l7Vw

    "" something people in power have mandated as demonstrative of human affinity and such must get a tax reward


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsYp9q3QNaQ

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    It’s important that if you’re promoting something that would benefit all people , especially lower paid , basic wage, people that one appeals to a sense of grandiosity on behalf of the rapacious left who’re exploiting the working class at the rate of literal rape.

    It’s important that one stands by them, is one of them, will ultimately sink or swim with “them.”

    And on that note, I want the world to know that I’m not right wing, I believe in socialism and at the same time I have a sense of belonging to my people which in any other circumstance would be adulated.

    I wish the world would understand that my vast accumulated wealth should remain untouched, inviolate, on account of my clearly higher plain morality as borne out by my well born birth, especially on climate change.

  15. Now that Biden is setting up a Ministry of Truth, I’m thinking of crossing over to the Dark Side and becoming a Winston Smith-type falsifier of historical records. I’m going to begin compiling “corrected” accounts of various past events.

    For example, on February 26, 2012, a hulking, homicidal white man named George Zimmerman killed a sweet, innocent little black boy named Trayvon Martin:

    One bright cold day in February, as the clocks were striking thirteen, Trayvon was walking down the sidewalk drinking grape juice and eating Skittles when Zimmerman ran him over with his Hummer. (White folks love their gas-guzzling Hummers, don’cha know.) Seeing that Martin was still alive, Zimmerman leapt out of his car and began bashing the poor little kid’s brains out with a baseball bat. Then he pulled out his AR-15 and blew Martin’s head off.

    Here is a picture of George Zimmerman. Note the blonde hair, signifying that the German-surnamed Zimmerman is a Nazi:

    (The scratches on his face were sustained when he attacked his girlfriend Jackie and shoved her into a table.)

    Due to systemic racism in the American injustice system, Zimmerman was able to worm his way out of going to prison.

    • LOL: KenH, bruce county
  16. Calling JackD. Calling JackD. Eagerly awaiting your hilarious take on this.

    • LOL: J1234
  17. Thank God this wasn’t an extremist mass shooting. And thank God for Sailer’s Law:

    Marissa Parra
    Fri, May 20, 2022, 5:49 AM
    A suspect is in custody after two people were killed and eight others wounded in a mass shooting in downtown Chicago late Thursday night.

    Police said it happened just after 10:40 p.m. outside a McDonald’s a few blocks from the city’s Magnificent Mile shopping district. One of the eatery’s windows was shattered during the shooting.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @JimDandy

    Saw that story! Assumed Sailer's Law was in effect because 1) only two out of ten shooting victims were killed and 2) not a peep about you-know-what from the "prestige media."

    NYT:


    Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.
     
    "Also, by sheer coincidence, the definition of "extremist violence" just happens to be "from the political right." Funny how that works out, innit?"

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @silviosilver
    @JimDandy


    Thank God this wasn’t an extremist mass shooting.
     
    That was just your traditional downhome good old American mass shooting. They're a heartwarming reminder that as much as some things are changing in this crazy world of ours, some things remain just the way they always were. You can't buy peace of mind like that.
  18. They cry out in pain as they strike you.

  19. “White” prison gangs now have plenty of hispanic members.

    Here’s an old page about the Nazi Lowriders. About a third if them have spanish names.

    http://www.geocities.ws/jiggy2000_us/nlr.html

  20. Most white men who serve hard time in prison have no choice but to join Aryan gangs. They get the tattoos, etc. But then they get out and hang with their black friends. Any white ex prisoner is going to be tarred with the, “Known to associate with white supremacists”, label.

  21. Pixo says:
    @SFG
    In another tweet, Friedman makes the argument that the Great Replacement is basically the same as the Emerging Democratic Majority…but most Hispanics are somewhat European so it’ll be more like the Italians, Polish, and Irish who eventually assimilated.

    Hope he’s right. Thing is, the Italians, Polish, and Irish didn’t get set asides for identifying as that, and weren’t encouraged to hate the English (though the Irish probably didn’t need any encouragement for that last one).

    Replies: @Pixo

    “ but most Hispanics are somewhat European so it’ll be more like the Italians, Polish, and Irish who eventually assimilated.”

    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, Eric Novak
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Pixo


    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America
     
    Yep. And by happy coincidence they are by far the most violent and lowest-IQ countries this side of Africa. Along with Haiti, of course.

    Great plan our fearless leaders have for the USA. Great plan.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  22. Steve for 20 years: everything NYT says is suspect, probably factually inaccurate, and certainly has an ideological spin. here, let me show you how, with numbers…

    Steve this year: all NYT reporting on Ukraine is correct, accurate, and true.

    • LOL: Eric Novak
  23. @R.G. Camara
    As must be repeated:

    Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a communist terrorist group.

    Replies: @Gore 2004, @War for Blair Mountain, @Mike Tre

    Funded by the Capitalist Pig Class…

    Black Lives Matter is organization that was paid by the Capitalist Pig Class to racially intimate White People…..

    Black Lives Matter violated the Civil Rights of White Americans…

  24. @Achmed E. Newman
    There are more lies being told these days than there are people who can figure them out. The ADL has been warned about this, in Revelation.

    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Richard B

    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?

    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production–and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let’s simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    • Agree: Gordo, Ben tillman, Richard B
    • Replies: @Unintended Consequence
    @AnotherDad

    I'm rather taken with the idea of creating parallel institutions: schools, banks, retail. Certainly there are enough cancelled and suspect professors to staff a college. Nepotism could be deployed as a means of circumventing AA for most other endeavors. I assume you're thinking in terms of geography, as well, which I haven't much considered. I guess people could buy portions of a large property; There'd have to be stipulations about how they could dispose it. Ok, I'm lying. I have thought about group purchasing of real estate but for purposes of owning Epstein's Island. Is it for sale? A new and better society could be formed on a tropical isle as easily as anywhere else.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Former Liberal
    @AnotherDad

    Agree with you totally. I'm Jewish on my Dad's side. He didn't like them either though, due to his World War Two experiences. ADL stands for always definitely lying, as they and many other Jews never look at their own behaviors and act like antisemitism comes out of thin air.

    , @Goddard
    @AnotherDad


    Let’s simply separate.
     
    Do you mean spiritual separation or physical?

    Regarding the former: I have banished the TV, am home-schooling my boys, and allow iSteve to curate my media intake. I avoid the 'Groid. I stay fit, mentally and psychologically, and I carry.

    Regarding the latter: I don't idealize separation. This is our country, built by our ancestors. My dream is expulsion. Expel the infiltrators, the "Dreamers," the paper Americans, and their enablers.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    , @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad

    BTW ... Steve now has, by my count 9 posts in row that essentially amount to the same thing: "Minoritarianism is utterly triumphant in America" with a recurring subtext "and brooks no dissent".

    We can gnash out teeth and yap back here at Steve's (thanks Steve, thanks Ron). But ... that's about it.

    There may be some slowing in the momentum of crazy we've seen in recent years. But does anyone here honestly believe we have a chance in hell of rolling this back? Of returning to Anglo-Saxon norms of empirical evidence and rational debate? Of returning to republican majoritarian self-government? Of returning to a sane culture that prizes the behaviors and virtues that prize production over parasitism and that reproduce civilized society?

    Good luck with that. There is a parasitic minoritarian caste in place that will fight tooth and nail.

    I believe it is time that we are honest about the scale of this debacle. And time that we admit we can not reverse the rot, but we can demand the right to live our lives as a free people and then go ahead and cut ourselves loose from these people.

    Replies: @Bert, @James Speaks

    , @Echo Range
    @AnotherDad

    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    “Let’s simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people“.

    It’s all idle talk on your part. I’ve heard this same sentiment for 50 years.

    Replies: @epochehusserl

  25. Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.

    Since when is ADL expert on these matters?

    Admit it, with a few exceptions, there is some psychopathological dynamic between American Jews and blacks.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Now I want to fwow up.

  26. @Technite78
    Lying, cheating, and hypocrisy are considered admirable skills by these people. You're not going to beat them by appealing to reason, honesty, or facts.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Hypnotoad666

    Always Defaming and Lying

  27. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    I’m rather taken with the idea of creating parallel institutions: schools, banks, retail. Certainly there are enough cancelled and suspect professors to staff a college. Nepotism could be deployed as a means of circumventing AA for most other endeavors. I assume you’re thinking in terms of geography, as well, which I haven’t much considered. I guess people could buy portions of a large property; There’d have to be stipulations about how they could dispose it. Ok, I’m lying. I have thought about group purchasing of real estate but for purposes of owning Epstein’s Island. Is it for sale? A new and better society could be formed on a tropical isle as easily as anywhere else.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Unintended Consequence

    What you are talking about is consociational democracy & it works, despite leftist calumny.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consociationalism

    To make things clear: it was the basic way of political life in the Netherlands for decades. Three groups (Protestant, Catholics, Atheists/Agnostics) lived parallel lives. They had their own separate unions, school systems, media, parties, ...everything.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  28. I mean, even if they were correct, what’s scarier? 40 or so homicides a year where the murderer is presumably motivated by a considered position about society at large, or 7,000 annual nihilistic urban killings over disses on Instagram?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  29. The nyt loves to stir the pot. A study should be commissioned to see if they have said anything positive about Whites or European culture in the last decade. Years ago Margaret Sullivan was Editor of the Buffalo News. She had the temerity to point out that the 8 Black victims of the City Grille shooting ( downtown Buffalo) all had criminal records. Ricardo McCrae the shooter, was also black, and managed to kill 5 of his 8 victims. The local black community came down with both feet on Ms Sullivan, who publically apologised for speaking the truth. Ms. Sullivan went on to become Public Editor of the nyt, where she had to defend the fact that the nyt buried the Bengahzi attack and killings, deep in the paper. See how that works. Information bad, misinformation good. Depends solely on the source.

  30. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    Agree with you totally. I’m Jewish on my Dad’s side. He didn’t like them either though, due to his World War Two experiences. ADL stands for always definitely lying, as they and many other Jews never look at their own behaviors and act like antisemitism comes out of thin air.

  31. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    Let’s simply separate.

    Do you mean spiritual separation or physical?

    Regarding the former: I have banished the TV, am home-schooling my boys, and allow iSteve to curate my media intake. I avoid the ‘Groid. I stay fit, mentally and psychologically, and I carry.

    Regarding the latter: I don’t idealize separation. This is our country, built by our ancestors. My dream is expulsion. Expel the infiltrators, the “Dreamers,” the paper Americans, and their enablers.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Goddard


    Regarding the latter: I don’t idealize separation. This is our country, built by our ancestors. My dream is expulsion. Expel the infiltrators, the “Dreamers,” the paper Americans, and their enablers.
     
    Pretty sure AD feels the same way. He just realizes this is utterly - utterly - delusional. Non-whites are probably already the majority, if you go buy traditional notions of 'white,' and a significant majority among attached (mixed family, close cross-racial friends) men of fighting age (ie non-whites + attached whites). Just face it, the ship sailed on mass expulsion decades ago. It is a perfectly hopeless aspiration. More limited forms of physical separation are still possible though.
  32. B!tches, please. They are not “lies”. They are, rather, “synthetic facts”.

    Check your truth privilege.

  33. @Wilkey
    I love the fact that the ADL data counts a murder (of a white man) committed in North Ogden, Utah as a “white supremacist” murder. Perhaps one of the most famous sets of murders committed in the US happened in Ogden. At least three, and perhaps as many as six, black Air Force enlistees robbed a HiFi shop, and held five white victims hostage. During that time they tortured them, forced them to swallow Drano, raped one of them (an 18 year old girl, who humiliated herself in hopes they would let her live, to no avail), and then shot them and left them for dead. Three of them did die. One of them, just 16-years-old, managed to survive another 28 years with an esophagus made from part of his own intestine. He could eat, but just barely. His father was a beloved ob/gyn who just barely passed away a few years ago well into his 90s.

    The HiFi murders happened before I was born, but they were so gruesome that even I heard of them while growing up. There was a terrific book (“Victim,” by Gary Kinder) and a television movie made about them. Nevertheless when the dates for the executions of the murderers came due, the NAACP threw a fit.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Alden, @Alden

    I remember that case, though just barely. It’s interesting which horrific interracial crimes are ignored by the documentarians (whether true crime tv or movies) and which ones are renewed in our memories. Think Emmett Till v. the Zebra Murders. There have been so many of these brutal interracial murder/torture/rapes over the years but after they’re reported on once, they fade from memory. There was one I remember from the early 90’s (maybe late 80’s) of a young woman who was kidnapped, tortured, repeatedly gang raped, explicitly for “400 years of oppression” and then thrown in a bath tub half alive and bathed in bleach before they shot her in the had. I want to say this was in North or South Carolina. Anyone know which one I’m talking about?

  34. @Technite78
    Lying, cheating, and hypocrisy are considered admirable skills by these people. You're not going to beat them by appealing to reason, honesty, or facts.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Hypnotoad666

    Even if the lying statistic were correct, it would only amount to 35 victims of “white extremism” per year, in a nation of 330 million. Or roughly a one in 10 million chance of being a victim. (And that’s ignoring that most of those killings were probably intra-gang as well).

    Yet I have known otherwise sensible people who refuse to visit entire states due to media-induced hysterical fear of “white supremacists.” The NYT, the ADL, and their ilk, are really the toxic liars who are dividing America. Pure trash.

    P.S., Julia Ioff is the psychotic lady reporter whose beat is to pretend that the Russians are controlling everything through the wires in your house. A real wack-job.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hypnotoad666

    It is amazing to me how brazenly facile their methodology is. According to our count, everything we counted is in the fake category we made up! Now send us money! The more efficient version is, I counted your money, all your money is in the "mine" category.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    , @Patrick Gibbs
    @Hypnotoad666

    My wife was terrified at the prospect of visiting my brother in the South, because she's Middle Eastern.

    Luckily she's grown up since we've been together, and now simply doesn't like the South because it's humid, not because she's gonna get Easy Rider'd.

    They really do tell people out here (CA) that if you're darker than cream cheese you will be lynched trying to fill up your gas tank in Georgia. It's ridiculous.

  35. • Replies: @Patrick Gibbs
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I saw a shitlib post this in my timeline. These people are beyond helping, man. I knew from reading the headline that the SUPER SPECIAL FUNDS FOR BABY FORMULA was almost certainly a blowjob to some alphabet agency (committees must be formed, issues investigated, etc.), and sure enough, yes, 28 million to the FDA to hire more bureaucrats (who will of course not lose their job once this assignment is over) so that daddy gubmint can tell the companies in question "yes, you are allowed to make more formula."

    So these 192 people voting against this are doing so for purely classically GOP reasons, i.e., let's just deregulate a bit and allow the free market to create more ZOG powder for babies that aren't getting enough of it.

  36. 450 murders / 10 years = 45 murders per year in the USA.
    45 / ~330,000,00 Americans = ~1.4 murders per 10 million Americans.

    450 murders / ~150,000 murders over the last decade = ~0.3% of murders in the USA. Roughly 1 in 300 murders.

    Crisis of epidemic proportions.

  37. • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Hundreds? At last count it was something like 38 blacks and 26 whites killed.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

  38. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    BTW … Steve now has, by my count 9 posts in row that essentially amount to the same thing: “Minoritarianism is utterly triumphant in America” with a recurring subtext “and brooks no dissent”.

    We can gnash out teeth and yap back here at Steve’s (thanks Steve, thanks Ron). But … that’s about it.

    There may be some slowing in the momentum of crazy we’ve seen in recent years. But does anyone here honestly believe we have a chance in hell of rolling this back? Of returning to Anglo-Saxon norms of empirical evidence and rational debate? Of returning to republican majoritarian self-government? Of returning to a sane culture that prizes the behaviors and virtues that prize production over parasitism and that reproduce civilized society?

    Good luck with that. There is a parasitic minoritarian caste in place that will fight tooth and nail.

    I believe it is time that we are honest about the scale of this debacle. And time that we admit we can not reverse the rot, but we can demand the right to live our lives as a free people and then go ahead and cut ourselves loose from these people.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @AnotherDad

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burnheim#:~:text=Burnheim%20was%20formerly%20a%20Catholic,the%20university%27s%20Department%20of%20Philosophy.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    , @James Speaks
    @AnotherDad

    And Emmett Till mentioned not once!

  39. Bert says:

    For an illuminating example of Wokeism eating its own, look into how David Sabatini’s stellar research career, one close to revealing basic mechanisms in cancer biology, was ended.

    He Was a World-Renowned Cancer Researcher. Now He’s Collecting Unemployment.
    Behind the fall of David Sabatini, ‘one of the greatest scientists’ of his generation.

    https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/he-was-a-world-renowned-cancer-researcher?r=2bxqw&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

    The irony of his retweet of his father in obeisance to BLM is beyond measure.

  40. Culminating at the Dallas Police Massacre of July 2016, this led to the election of Donald Trump and the appointment of Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, which coincided with a decline in murder. But in mid-2019 this downward trend ended and with the “racial reckoning” being declared by the Good and the Great at the end of May 2020, murders shot upward as cops were told that the politicians didn’t support them stop pulling dubious characters over anymore.

    I say:

    Hillary Clinton cancelled campaign events at least two times: one time after Orlando shoot ’em up and then when that Black dirtbag shot all the cops in Dallas.

    The first cancelled Hillary Baby Boomer Harpy Clinton campaign event was in Wisconsin and the second was Pennsylvania.

    Why Hillary Clinton never went out to campaign in Wisconsin must be blamed on that Mook bonehead. Dartmouth environs really lowered Mook’s brain cell count.

    Let us all remember to drink plenty of water and iced tea during the upcoming heat wave in the Northeast so we don’t almost pass out like a boozy and woozy Hillary Clinton did in New York City in 2016.

    The Hill — July, 8, 2016:

    It’s the second time Clinton has had a major event postponed after a deadly shooting. She had originally planned to campaign with President Obama in Wisconsin in June, but that was canceled in the wake of the mass shooting in Orlando.

    https://thehill.com/news/286968-clinton-trump-cancel-campaign-events-after-dallas-shootings/

  41. So tell the ADL that it was all little girls who couldn’t keep their mouths shut; they should back down.

  42. @Hypnotoad666
    @Technite78

    Even if the lying statistic were correct, it would only amount to 35 victims of "white extremism" per year, in a nation of 330 million. Or roughly a one in 10 million chance of being a victim. (And that's ignoring that most of those killings were probably intra-gang as well).

    Yet I have known otherwise sensible people who refuse to visit entire states due to media-induced hysterical fear of "white supremacists." The NYT, the ADL, and their ilk, are really the toxic liars who are dividing America. Pure trash.

    P.S., Julia Ioff is the psychotic lady reporter whose beat is to pretend that the Russians are controlling everything through the wires in your house. A real wack-job.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Patrick Gibbs

    It is amazing to me how brazenly facile their methodology is. According to our count, everything we counted is in the fake category we made up! Now send us money! The more efficient version is, I counted your money, all your money is in the “mine” category.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @J.Ross

    The reason the ADL, like the SPLC, is so effective at raising money is because the people who donate can be 100% certain that their money will only be used to attack people on the right such as disgusting white people. They are a reliable political ally of the left. The SPLC does not even pretend to be neutral although they will claim that it has something to do with leftist politics whatever that means. I think we all know it comes down to race and religion. This means that if you hate white people, goys, conservatives, etc. you can give with complete confidence that your money will go towards fighting them and none of it will go towards fighting all the usual suspects.

  43. Compared to the 1990s, there ain’t much murder at all.

    Just sayin’. This is casuistry.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @obwandiyag

    Yeah, ‘cuz 8/100,000 murders in 2020 is a collapse compared to 1980, with 10/100,000. Why do you post here, retard?

  44. Continuing my efforts to get hired by Joseph Robinette Biden’s Ministry of Truth, I have composed a photographic essay that might be suitable for inclusion in a text about Critical Race Theory.

    White People Are Evil
    by Stan Adamstein

    [MORE]


    Greetings, fellow white people! It’s me, Stan Adamstein:

    Hope you’re having a fantastic Friday. Just thought I’d drop you a little reminder that you are the wellspring of all evil and misery on this benighted planet, and you seriously need to drop dead right now.

    Well, that might be a slight exaggeration. You don’t need to drop dead right this instant. First you need to sign over all of your assets to people of color. Then you can drop dead.

    Why, you ask?

    Because you’re evil.

    And why are you evil?

    Because you were born that way.

    Seriously, when I look at white people, I see nothing but evil. It’s practically embedded in your faces.

    For example, these are actual, honest-to-God, real-life Nazi kids:
    And these are the people who were mean to me in high school. This guy shoved me into my locker at least two or three times a day:
    And this girl laughed in my face when I asked her to the prom:
    How I hated those stupid popular kids! Dumb jocks and slutty cheerleaders, the lot. They got to have fun at wild parties on Saturday night while I stayed home watching C-SPAN:
    Don’t all these people look alike? I think they look alike. Don’t you think they do? Are you seriously going to tell me that they don’t look alike? Because if you don’t think they all look alike, I think you’re crazy.

    Seriously, these people are nasty. I wish they would all just DIE! RIGHT NOW!

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go work on my tan.

    • Thanks: Muggles
  45. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    OT.

    Way, way back in 1981, a rat carrying bubonic plague was found in Ronald Reagan’s Californian ranch/retreat.

    The was soon after Reagan’s inauguration.

    On the day of this discovery I happened to be listening to UK commercial radio. Reagan was extremely unpopular amongst the rank and file of the UK media, who, at get regarded him as a sick joke. Anyway, I distinctly remember the news of the plague rat being blared out excitedly on the hour every hour as *the* only news story of the day. There was a great deal of subconscious projection going on with the Brit media folk identifying the plague rat with the personage of Ronald Reagan, hence the excitedness of the reports.

  46. ADL/NYT: Never Mind the Vast Increase in Murder Due to BLM, Blame the Right

    I say:

    Attention All Black People In Philadelphia and Swamp City DC:

    There is a Hot-As-A-Muthaphucka Heat Wave Advisory in effect for the weekend(May 21-22 2022), so the US government and various Unz Review blog commenters are suggesting drinking lots of root beer and iced tea and water and lemonade and not getting irritated and agitated by the heat and breaking out into injurious levels of dangerous violence.

    Thank You For Your Cooperation In These Trying Times!

    Cool Down, Stop Acting Crazy

    They’re Gonna Leave, And You’ll Be On Your Own

    Whitey Did That Decades Ago, But They’re Gentrifying Their Honky Asses back!

    https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1527703052685348864?s=20&t=kyiO91WCChxL-f6ZQI_Rhg

  47. So all of the “White Supremacists” Biden rants about are mostly (say 90%) in prisons?

    Run by the states and federal governments.

    So how’s that working out, Joe?

    Of course said “White” gangs are formed to protect non POC inmates from black and Latino gangs, usually much larger. People here have previously posted that in ND (and likely other Indian country states) Red prison gangs ally with the Whites.

    So actual “running loose” White supremacists are few and far between. A few wonky websites and near invisible tiny groups which attract ADL snitches and feds like ants to a picnic.

    Meanwhile the “invisible hand” of POC gangsters committing robberies and murders goes unmentioned. As a random sample, two TV reported shootings in the Houston area (yesterday) both happened in black majority neighborhoods. No mention of race in the news.

    Meanwhile BLM has reported a net balance of \$32 million at the beginning of 2022. No word on who is “in charge” or who gets this boodle. Better make your claim now before it all somehow, disappears into the Petty Cash fund.

  48. Bert says:
    @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad

    BTW ... Steve now has, by my count 9 posts in row that essentially amount to the same thing: "Minoritarianism is utterly triumphant in America" with a recurring subtext "and brooks no dissent".

    We can gnash out teeth and yap back here at Steve's (thanks Steve, thanks Ron). But ... that's about it.

    There may be some slowing in the momentum of crazy we've seen in recent years. But does anyone here honestly believe we have a chance in hell of rolling this back? Of returning to Anglo-Saxon norms of empirical evidence and rational debate? Of returning to republican majoritarian self-government? Of returning to a sane culture that prizes the behaviors and virtues that prize production over parasitism and that reproduce civilized society?

    Good luck with that. There is a parasitic minoritarian caste in place that will fight tooth and nail.

    I believe it is time that we are honest about the scale of this debacle. And time that we admit we can not reverse the rot, but we can demand the right to live our lives as a free people and then go ahead and cut ourselves loose from these people.

    Replies: @Bert, @James Speaks

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burnheim#:~:text=Burnheim%20was%20formerly%20a%20Catholic,the%20university%27s%20Department%20of%20Philosophy.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Bert


    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.
     
    Sortition has the obvious advantages and disadvantages you or I would come up with.

    I think that one problem that we have now that is there whether you have elections or sortition, is defining the pool of the "eligible" (voters/candidates). I think this is one of the--many--things that has "gone wrong".

    Republican system, I think, are pretty hard to beat if decisions of choosing representatives/leaders is done by responsible, productive men. Originally there was usually some sort of property qualification. This has its downsides in not representing the working--actually working--classes. But our current crisis shows the need for some sort of screens along this line.

    You can make a +/- argument for a lot of different qualifications, but something like:
    -- family man, married with children (consult with the wife, but the man votes)
    -- productively employed, self-supporting
    -- private sector, not a government employee/grantee
    -- net taxpayer, not receiving any direct government benefits; not a welfare case
    -- not/never a felon
    -- not a lobbyist, lawyer, financier
    -- age qualification, maybe 35--70 ending when you take government pension/health benefits or maybe when you children qualify (passing the baton)

    The main point is a nation properly belongs to people who actually make it function and have a vital stake in its continuance.

    Replies: @Bert

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bert


    Democracy is demonstrably a failure.
     
    If democracy had any validity, it would lie in plebescites to decide which nation one's local community belongs with.

    Note the curious absence of this solution in either side's plans for the Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk.

    Admission by omission!
  49. This David Friedman seems to be a very courageous guy. Could we learn somewhat more about him? Have his relatives already started to distance themselves from him (as with Stephen Miller)?

  50. So Whites kill more out of principle and people of color commit the overwhelming majority of murders for more sordid reasons, like rape, robbery, revenge etc.

    The narrative still sucks even if it were true, which it isn’t.

  51. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/ElizabethBanks/status/1527468606199451648

    Replies: @Patrick Gibbs

    I saw a shitlib post this in my timeline. These people are beyond helping, man. I knew from reading the headline that the SUPER SPECIAL FUNDS FOR BABY FORMULA was almost certainly a blowjob to some alphabet agency (committees must be formed, issues investigated, etc.), and sure enough, yes, 28 million to the FDA to hire more bureaucrats (who will of course not lose their job once this assignment is over) so that daddy gubmint can tell the companies in question “yes, you are allowed to make more formula.”

    So these 192 people voting against this are doing so for purely classically GOP reasons, i.e., let’s just deregulate a bit and allow the free market to create more ZOG powder for babies that aren’t getting enough of it.

  52. @Hypnotoad666
    @Technite78

    Even if the lying statistic were correct, it would only amount to 35 victims of "white extremism" per year, in a nation of 330 million. Or roughly a one in 10 million chance of being a victim. (And that's ignoring that most of those killings were probably intra-gang as well).

    Yet I have known otherwise sensible people who refuse to visit entire states due to media-induced hysterical fear of "white supremacists." The NYT, the ADL, and their ilk, are really the toxic liars who are dividing America. Pure trash.

    P.S., Julia Ioff is the psychotic lady reporter whose beat is to pretend that the Russians are controlling everything through the wires in your house. A real wack-job.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Patrick Gibbs

    My wife was terrified at the prospect of visiting my brother in the South, because she’s Middle Eastern.

    Luckily she’s grown up since we’ve been together, and now simply doesn’t like the South because it’s humid, not because she’s gonna get Easy Rider’d.

    They really do tell people out here (CA) that if you’re darker than cream cheese you will be lynched trying to fill up your gas tank in Georgia. It’s ridiculous.

  53. OFF TOPIC

    The Mook Identity

    The Mook Supremacy

    The Mook Ultimatum

    The Mook Legacy

    The Mook Testimony

    The Mook Skedaddle

    The Mook Vamoose

    The Mook Scram

    The Mook Skiddoo

    Mook better be on the move from here on out, because the Clinton Organized Crime Syndicate plays for keeps.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Charles Pewitt

    https://twitter.com/ArtaMoeini/status/1527846304461860864?s=20&t=Exjv5ChFixZihEmFGrFwbw

    https://twitter.com/MaxAbrahms/status/1527869555133009922?s=20&t=Exjv5ChFixZihEmFGrFwbw

    Hillary Clinton was directly responsible for the disgusting fraud about Russia perpetrated by treasonous rats in the DEEP STATE and the Democrat Party and the rancid and putrid whores in the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    TULSI GABBARD has been one of the only Democrat Party political leaders who has been accurate in her depiction of the Russia — Russia — Russia crud as a deceitfully concocted distraction from real issues that face the USA.

    Tulsi Gabbard has gone her own way on foreign policy by saying that the USA must resist endless regime change wars and pointless hyper-interventionism. Michael Tracey has gone his own way by not buying any of the Russia --Russia --Russia hysteria and propaganda emanating from the corporate media and the Democrat Party and the ruling class of the American Empire. It’s nice to see such young puppies as Tracey and Gabbard showing true strength of character by holding strong to their own integrity!

    Trump ought to know that Tracey ain’t a fan of his, but Michael Tracey was highly skeptical of all this Russia — Russia — Russia crud coming out of the Democrat Party and the DEEP STATE and Hillary Clinton and the corrupt and disgusting corporate propaganda media.

  54. ADL reaches these numbers by defining all homicides committed by members of white gangs (mostly prison gangs) as right-wing extremists, while not defining black or Latino gangs as politically motivated.

    So DC Stephenson qualifies as “rightist” violence?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._C._Stephenson

  55. I say this with the sincerest possible regret, but if they didn’t want a race war, then they shouldn’t have declared one.

  56. @Bert
    @AnotherDad

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burnheim#:~:text=Burnheim%20was%20formerly%20a%20Catholic,the%20university%27s%20Department%20of%20Philosophy.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.

    Sortition has the obvious advantages and disadvantages you or I would come up with.

    I think that one problem that we have now that is there whether you have elections or sortition, is defining the pool of the “eligible” (voters/candidates). I think this is one of the–many–things that has “gone wrong”.

    Republican system, I think, are pretty hard to beat if decisions of choosing representatives/leaders is done by responsible, productive men. Originally there was usually some sort of property qualification. This has its downsides in not representing the working–actually working–classes. But our current crisis shows the need for some sort of screens along this line.

    You can make a +/- argument for a lot of different qualifications, but something like:
    — family man, married with children (consult with the wife, but the man votes)
    — productively employed, self-supporting
    — private sector, not a government employee/grantee
    — net taxpayer, not receiving any direct government benefits; not a welfare case
    — not/never a felon
    — not a lobbyist, lawyer, financier
    — age qualification, maybe 35–70 ending when you take government pension/health benefits or maybe when you children qualify (passing the baton)

    The main point is a nation properly belongs to people who actually make it function and have a vital stake in its continuance.

    • Replies: @Bert
    @AnotherDad

    Qualifications can be combined with random selection. The strongest argument for demarchy is that much of governmental functioning, i.e., the bureaucracy, would be replaced with drafted citizens serving a limited, well-compensated, term. Would cut out the DMV-syndrome from whatever remnant of the civil service remained.

  57. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:

    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race, but Sailer posts the comment of a contrarian Jew to give the false impression that Jews are for truth.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous


    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race, but Sailer posts the comment of a contrarian Jew to give the false impression that Jews are for truth.
     
    And he has the insolence to do it on a Jewish owned website (or is that written into the Unz Contract?).
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race
     
    Such as Stephen Jay Gould claiming we descend from lemurs.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  58. OT:

    Talking of dead bodies, the drying of reservoirs is shining new light on the history of Wild West. A whole new genre of crime thrillers may emerge.

    Bodies Pulled From Parched Lake Mead Stir Wise-Guy Ghosts of Las Vegas

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bodies-pulled-from-parched-lake-mead-stir-wise-guy-ghosts-of-las-vegas/ar-AAXvlV8

  59. @AnotherDad
    @Bert


    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.
     
    Sortition has the obvious advantages and disadvantages you or I would come up with.

    I think that one problem that we have now that is there whether you have elections or sortition, is defining the pool of the "eligible" (voters/candidates). I think this is one of the--many--things that has "gone wrong".

    Republican system, I think, are pretty hard to beat if decisions of choosing representatives/leaders is done by responsible, productive men. Originally there was usually some sort of property qualification. This has its downsides in not representing the working--actually working--classes. But our current crisis shows the need for some sort of screens along this line.

    You can make a +/- argument for a lot of different qualifications, but something like:
    -- family man, married with children (consult with the wife, but the man votes)
    -- productively employed, self-supporting
    -- private sector, not a government employee/grantee
    -- net taxpayer, not receiving any direct government benefits; not a welfare case
    -- not/never a felon
    -- not a lobbyist, lawyer, financier
    -- age qualification, maybe 35--70 ending when you take government pension/health benefits or maybe when you children qualify (passing the baton)

    The main point is a nation properly belongs to people who actually make it function and have a vital stake in its continuance.

    Replies: @Bert

    Qualifications can be combined with random selection. The strongest argument for demarchy is that much of governmental functioning, i.e., the bureaucracy, would be replaced with drafted citizens serving a limited, well-compensated, term. Would cut out the DMV-syndrome from whatever remnant of the civil service remained.

  60. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Echo Range


    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.
     
    Pretty happy with my rantings on the Fauci here. I've been a consistent Covid "middle of the roader" in the debates here. As I must have said twenty times, once the Diamond Princess docked we had a good rough idea of this thing--not "just the flu bro" but neither any sort of threat to civilization. I opposed the "just the flu bro" guys trying to bogus math deaths away and the hysterics wanting their lockdowns. Now with omicron it is "just the flu" and everybody is done with it.

    Ukraine--I try to keep that nonsense out of the threads. Suffice to say Putin is not saving the white race or Christian civilization. (He's not even a Russian nationalist.)

    I'm a pretty theoretical "let's get down to the core of this" guy myself. But tossing out basic--it is what it is--empiricism and letting your "I really want X to be true, so it must be true" is the path of folly.

    Furthermore ... people who get all jazzed up over Covid or Ukraine simply do not know which end is up. Neither is important. (Trivial transients. Anyone care in twenty years?)


    What's killing the West is
    --Minoritarianism. This toxic ideology that a nation's normal productive majority--at least if white gentiles--must bend to accommodate all the minorities, whiners, loons and parasites. Rather than--properly--the other way around. (A nation takes care of itself and reproducing itself.)

    --And its deadly ride-along partner, immigrationism. (A nation is not entitled to see off invaders and preserve itself.)

    If you can't see that. Get some glasses.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  61. Your daily laugh: what do the comments on this site have in common with Wikipedia articles?
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    If there were a cure for autism, the volume would drop by 75%.

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    @prosa123

    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.

    (At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, "Nah, we'd still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.")

    Replies: @Midnights, @Reg Cæsar

  62. @AnotherDad
    @AnotherDad

    BTW ... Steve now has, by my count 9 posts in row that essentially amount to the same thing: "Minoritarianism is utterly triumphant in America" with a recurring subtext "and brooks no dissent".

    We can gnash out teeth and yap back here at Steve's (thanks Steve, thanks Ron). But ... that's about it.

    There may be some slowing in the momentum of crazy we've seen in recent years. But does anyone here honestly believe we have a chance in hell of rolling this back? Of returning to Anglo-Saxon norms of empirical evidence and rational debate? Of returning to republican majoritarian self-government? Of returning to a sane culture that prizes the behaviors and virtues that prize production over parasitism and that reproduce civilized society?

    Good luck with that. There is a parasitic minoritarian caste in place that will fight tooth and nail.

    I believe it is time that we are honest about the scale of this debacle. And time that we admit we can not reverse the rot, but we can demand the right to live our lives as a free people and then go ahead and cut ourselves loose from these people.

    Replies: @Bert, @James Speaks

    And Emmett Till mentioned not once!

  63. @JimDandy
    Thank God this wasn't an extremist mass shooting. And thank God for Sailer's Law:

    Marissa Parra
    Fri, May 20, 2022, 5:49 AM
    A suspect is in custody after two people were killed and eight others wounded in a mass shooting in downtown Chicago late Thursday night.

    Police said it happened just after 10:40 p.m. outside a McDonald's a few blocks from the city's Magnificent Mile shopping district. One of the eatery's windows was shattered during the shooting.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @silviosilver

    Saw that story! Assumed Sailer’s Law was in effect because 1) only two out of ten shooting victims were killed and 2) not a peep about you-know-what from the “prestige media.”

    NYT:

    Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.

    “Also, by sheer coincidence, the definition of “extremist violence” just happens to be “from the political right.” Funny how that works out, innit?”

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @HammerJack

    If you want the straight dope on the mentality of the milieu, check out this amazing interview available on YouTube:

    'I Love Chicago' Shooting victim speaks to media hours after getting shot in mass shooting

  64. @Pixo
    @SFG

    “ but most Hispanics are somewhat European so it’ll be more like the Italians, Polish, and Irish who eventually assimilated.”

    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.

    https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2018/10/26/AP_18297593607511.jpg

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America

    Yep. And by happy coincidence they are by far the most violent and lowest-IQ countries this side of Africa. Along with Haiti, of course.

    Great plan our fearless leaders have for the USA. Great plan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @HammerJack


    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.
     
    Yep. I’ve had to deal with a number of them, as they've become a pain in the ass living in a rental property next to my rental property, and my tenants despise them. I’ve tried to talk to them a number of times, and though they were all at least 35 or older, it’s like talking to extremely dense 13 year olds. They’re spectacularly stupid, and not Mexican stupid. They're a special kind of stupid. They’re operating on a different plane of stupidity. Their states are failing for very good reason. They don’t possess the collective brain power to function by modern western standards of government, and they never will.

    Why we are willfully importing these hoards of dumb obstinate immature dwarves, I cannot fathom. They can do dumb drudge work, but there’s not a lot of room for improvement beyond that.

    Good thing they’re dwarves is all I can say. If they were big as Samoans, I’d be terrified right now.

    One thing I’ve noticed about them is, while they’ll put up an extremely stupid passionate argument about whatever stupid thing they want to do, and the stupid reason they want to do it, they do tend to back down. Just when I’m about to start getting real with them, they just do what I ask, finally.

    I’ve had it surprise me time and again. A peculiarity about these strange dumb people. They’re basically servile. Thank god.

    Replies: @Rob

  65. Who is Daniel Friedman?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @jamie b.

    Somebody who sent out some good tweets.

  66. @jamie b.
    Who is Daniel Friedman?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Somebody who sent out some good tweets.

  67. OT — this is why 4chan is still useful after hourly government spamfloods and newcomers who might as well be bots. Look at how they got the date right. A British anon has:

    The ‘Nuclear Threat Initiative’ (funded by George Soros), wargamed a monkeypox outbreak last November. In their documentation, they “imagine” a monkeypox biological attack happening on May 15th, 2022. They lay out the entire plan including all the dates of the attack and how the attacks escalate and when. The plan is detailed on page 12:

    https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @J.Ross

    Ah, so this will be the real pandemic - the one where the bodies are piling up in the streets. COVID-19 was a test run. Good to know.

    I have a virulently anti-vaxx friend who is now saying that the real purpose of the jabs was to weaken people's immunity to monkeypox. He thinks Soros and his people are trying to depopulate the earth.

    I had my own doubts about the vaxx, but I did get the Johnson & Johnson shot when it first became available in March 2021. I wasn't old enough to qualify at that time, but I took my mother to get hers and the nurse offered me one. I hesitated for a minute but decided to bite the bullet. I figured that the conventional vaccine was somewhat less risky than the mRNA crap.

    To date, I have suffered no apparent ill effects. (I haven't had my sperm count checked in quite a while.)

    I take an agnostic view toward most conspiracy theories. I have no problem believing that George Soros is evil enough to kill millions or even billions of people to further whatever agenda it is that he's pursuing. I'm fairly well convinced that Joseph Robinette Biden did not win the 2020 presidential election. But I have to concede that definitive proof of these nefarious deeds is somewhat elusive.

    Recently I've been rewatching some of my favorite X-Files episodes.

    Yesterday (May 19) was the twentieth anniversary of the original series finale, in which Mulder and Scully learned that the world was scheduled to end in an apocalyptic alien invasion (abetted by the spread of a virus that would transform humans into gestational hosts for extraterrestrial beings) on December 22, 2012. At the time, that date was over ten years in the future; it is now almost ten years in the past.

    If the aliens had kept to their original schedule, we wouldn't have had to endure Obama's second term and all of the ensuing craziness that he unleashed upon America. True, mankind would have gone extinct, but at least we would have been spared the agony of watching Joseph Robinette Biden stumble through his interminable speeches about the evilness of white people.

    Is it a coincidence that the Mayans ended their calendar on December 21, 2012 - a month after Obama's re-election (November 6) and a week after Sandy Hook (December 14)? I think not.

    Smart folks, those Mayans. They knew what was coming.

    Incidentally, I am happy to report that my application to join the Ministry of Truth has been accepted. I now embark on my new existence as an insufferable leftist troll, much in the manner of our good friends Tiny Duck/Ebony Obelisk/whatever and Corvinus.

    I have created a series of graphics to debunk the racist myth that black people are inherently stupider than white people. If we would just fund the schools properly, then the so-called IQ gap would close tighter than Nancy Pelosi's legs.

    https://i.ibb.co/rmc7xjB/math1.png

    https://i.ibb.co/YtJ8BZ7/math2.png

    https://i.ibb.co/DtXZBpT/math3.png

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  68. Either most of the mass killings come from the political right, or they come from the political left, or they have absolutely nothing to do with politics.

    However lunatics who commit mass murders are often influenced or agitated by the political issues of their time, whether it be the Napoleonic wars or the War between the States.

    The important thing is that political leaders of all parties should condemn all kinds of violent behavior and insist that they will not support anything other than peaceful protests, and that those who use violence will be subjected to the full force of the law and judged and sentenced on their actions, and not on their motives.

  69. @Anonymous
    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race, but Sailer posts the comment of a contrarian Jew to give the false impression that Jews are for truth.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar

    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race, but Sailer posts the comment of a contrarian Jew to give the false impression that Jews are for truth.

    And he has the insolence to do it on a Jewish owned website (or is that written into the Unz Contract?).

  70. Yarvin repackages Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings:

    A chimp is lethal in unarmed combat. A chimp would not make much of a sniper. A chimp could shoot up a grocery store. But there would be more wounded than dead

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  71. @Bardon Kaldian

    Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.
     
    Since when is ADL expert on these matters?

    Admit it, with a few exceptions, there is some psychopathological dynamic between American Jews and blacks.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c7/2b/e7/c72be7fa3e33c9461e3442f895648e9d.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Now I want to fwow up.

  72. @Anonymous
    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race, but Sailer posts the comment of a contrarian Jew to give the false impression that Jews are for truth.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar

    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race

    Such as Stephen Jay Gould claiming we descend from lemurs.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Reg Cæsar

    Isn't it obvious?

    https://i.ibb.co/gww9RMd/1902-15-Smells-Like-Lemur.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/qJfTGyB/jill-biden-vs-protester-gty-jc-200304-hp-Main-16x9-992.jpg

  73. @Bert
    @AnotherDad

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure. When the youngsters are free to reform governance, the only rational choice will be demarchy/sortition, as recently explicated by John Burnheim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burnheim#:~:text=Burnheim%20was%20formerly%20a%20Catholic,the%20university%27s%20Department%20of%20Philosophy.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Reg Cæsar

    Democracy is demonstrably a failure.

    If democracy had any validity, it would lie in plebescites to decide which nation one’s local community belongs with.

    Note the curious absence of this solution in either side’s plans for the Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk.

    Admission by omission!

  74. @J.Ross
    OT -- this is why 4chan is still useful after hourly government spamfloods and newcomers who might as well be bots. Look at how they got the date right. A British anon has:

    The 'Nuclear Threat Initiative' (funded by George Soros), wargamed a monkeypox outbreak last November. In their documentation, they "imagine" a monkeypox biological attack happening on May 15th, 2022. They lay out the entire plan including all the dates of the attack and how the attacks escalate and when. The plan is detailed on page 12:
     
    https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Ah, so this will be the real pandemic – the one where the bodies are piling up in the streets. COVID-19 was a test run. Good to know.

    I have a virulently anti-vaxx friend who is now saying that the real purpose of the jabs was to weaken people’s immunity to monkeypox. He thinks Soros and his people are trying to depopulate the earth.

    I had my own doubts about the vaxx, but I did get the Johnson & Johnson shot when it first became available in March 2021. I wasn’t old enough to qualify at that time, but I took my mother to get hers and the nurse offered me one. I hesitated for a minute but decided to bite the bullet. I figured that the conventional vaccine was somewhat less risky than the mRNA crap.

    To date, I have suffered no apparent ill effects. (I haven’t had my sperm count checked in quite a while.)

    I take an agnostic view toward most conspiracy theories. I have no problem believing that George Soros is evil enough to kill millions or even billions of people to further whatever agenda it is that he’s pursuing. I’m fairly well convinced that Joseph Robinette Biden did not win the 2020 presidential election. But I have to concede that definitive proof of these nefarious deeds is somewhat elusive.

    Recently I’ve been rewatching some of my favorite X-Files episodes.

    Yesterday (May 19) was the twentieth anniversary of the original series finale, in which Mulder and Scully learned that the world was scheduled to end in an apocalyptic alien invasion (abetted by the spread of a virus that would transform humans into gestational hosts for extraterrestrial beings) on December 22, 2012. At the time, that date was over ten years in the future; it is now almost ten years in the past.

    If the aliens had kept to their original schedule, we wouldn’t have had to endure Obama’s second term and all of the ensuing craziness that he unleashed upon America. True, mankind would have gone extinct, but at least we would have been spared the agony of watching Joseph Robinette Biden stumble through his interminable speeches about the evilness of white people.

    Is it a coincidence that the Mayans ended their calendar on December 21, 2012 – a month after Obama’s re-election (November 6) and a week after Sandy Hook (December 14)? I think not.

    Smart folks, those Mayans. They knew what was coming.

    Incidentally, I am happy to report that my application to join the Ministry of Truth has been accepted. I now embark on my new existence as an insufferable leftist troll, much in the manner of our good friends Tiny Duck/Ebony Obelisk/whatever and Corvinus.

    I have created a series of graphics to debunk the racist myth that black people are inherently stupider than white people. If we would just fund the schools properly, then the so-called IQ gap would close tighter than Nancy Pelosi’s legs.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Stan Adams

    I like the phrase "virulently anti-vaxx", Stan. It's kind of paradoxical. His anti-vaxx speech spreads to others like the most contagious virus, maybe like the Covid-one-niner was supposed to be, early on?

    Haha, anyway, your comments are great fun to read. Thanks!

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  75. @JimDandy
    Thank God this wasn't an extremist mass shooting. And thank God for Sailer's Law:

    Marissa Parra
    Fri, May 20, 2022, 5:49 AM
    A suspect is in custody after two people were killed and eight others wounded in a mass shooting in downtown Chicago late Thursday night.

    Police said it happened just after 10:40 p.m. outside a McDonald's a few blocks from the city's Magnificent Mile shopping district. One of the eatery's windows was shattered during the shooting.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @silviosilver

    Thank God this wasn’t an extremist mass shooting.

    That was just your traditional downhome good old American mass shooting. They’re a heartwarming reminder that as much as some things are changing in this crazy world of ours, some things remain just the way they always were. You can’t buy peace of mind like that.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  76. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    So, Jewish Power overwhelmingly goes out of its way to defame the white race
     
    Such as Stephen Jay Gould claiming we descend from lemurs.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Isn’t it obvious?

  77. @Goddard
    @AnotherDad


    Let’s simply separate.
     
    Do you mean spiritual separation or physical?

    Regarding the former: I have banished the TV, am home-schooling my boys, and allow iSteve to curate my media intake. I avoid the 'Groid. I stay fit, mentally and psychologically, and I carry.

    Regarding the latter: I don't idealize separation. This is our country, built by our ancestors. My dream is expulsion. Expel the infiltrators, the "Dreamers," the paper Americans, and their enablers.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Regarding the latter: I don’t idealize separation. This is our country, built by our ancestors. My dream is expulsion. Expel the infiltrators, the “Dreamers,” the paper Americans, and their enablers.

    Pretty sure AD feels the same way. He just realizes this is utterly – utterly – delusional. Non-whites are probably already the majority, if you go buy traditional notions of ‘white,’ and a significant majority among attached (mixed family, close cross-racial friends) men of fighting age (ie non-whites + attached whites). Just face it, the ship sailed on mass expulsion decades ago. It is a perfectly hopeless aspiration. More limited forms of physical separation are still possible though.

  78. @prosa123
    Your daily laugh: what do the comments on this site have in common with Wikipedia articles?
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    If there were a cure for autism, the volume would drop by 75%.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.

    (At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, “Nah, we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.”)

    • Replies: @Midnights
    @Stan Adams

    "(At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, “Nah, we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.”)"




    Don't forget about gambling.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan Adams


    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.
     
    Thanks to Azer Koçulu, there is a cure for social media-- deleting left-pad.


    How one programmer broke the internet by deleting a tiny piece of code


    ...we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.
     
    Those have been around since the century before last.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-2BYJkewA

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  79. What really frustrates the left is why white guy violence just doesn’t drive away civilization and make a ghost town of the location like colored crime does. It can be explained, but not in a concise way.

    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.

    My guess would be blacks and browns have a persistent and nagging way of eroding the quality of life that a once in every two decade public massacre can’t, Homicide will always be the most extreme and rarest sliver of crime that can occur to you- hell, even the crime statistics in Skid Row LA has murder investigated as 1% of the total crime pie. The problem is that slightly higher odds of homicide in an area goes along with a much wider pool of crimes that can happen to you, to where with overwhelming odds you’ll be alive and stay that way, but your life will just be made hell.

    A white young social outcast exploding one day and offing a bunch of strangers will always be a tragedy, and a few individuals affected may never recover, but it doesn’t drive away commerce and investment the way blacks do. You don’t need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Carthage Underground

    This plus
    --Black riots are merely the least deniable salient; these are people who on their best day steal cable, cannot figure out queuing, enter through the exit, blast through red lights, etc.. Civilization takes a million little repairs, and even without the riot this crowd has no time for that. And
    --The "on-narrative mass shooting" (ONMS) really does never happen for planning purposes; it's an inorganic, new, super-rare event, which can be prevented in numerous ways, and often happens because it was allowed or helped to happen, and then gets massively overhyped in the lyingpress.
    So the riot is like the crowning gesture completing a long litany of contempt, and the ONMS is like an meteor strike interrupting an otherwise orderly system.

    , @Bert
    @Carthage Underground


    You don’t need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,
     
    An interesting comment, but I think you underestimate the degree to which people with IQs above 85 use generalized disorder, e.g., the tidiness of yards, sidewalks and even garbage cans, as a risk assessment criterion for the ultimate hazard: becoming a murder victim. A separate criterion would be the ethnic composition of the neighborhood.
    , @Stan Adams
    @Carthage Underground


    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.
     
    A couple of years ago, the Jefferson County school district seriously considered demolishing Columbine and building a new facility nearby. (The school has become a kind of macabre tourist destination and many local people are not happy about it, to put it mildly.) The proposal was scuttled due to lack of funding.

    The only part of the building that was removed after the shooting was the library, where the bulk of the victims died. The new library (in a different location) was built using donated money.
  80. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    @Pixo


    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America
     
    Yep. And by happy coincidence they are by far the most violent and lowest-IQ countries this side of Africa. Along with Haiti, of course.

    Great plan our fearless leaders have for the USA. Great plan.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.

    Yep. I’ve had to deal with a number of them, as they’ve become a pain in the ass living in a rental property next to my rental property, and my tenants despise them. I’ve tried to talk to them a number of times, and though they were all at least 35 or older, it’s like talking to extremely dense 13 year olds. They’re spectacularly stupid, and not Mexican stupid. They’re a special kind of stupid. They’re operating on a different plane of stupidity. Their states are failing for very good reason. They don’t possess the collective brain power to function by modern western standards of government, and they never will.

    Why we are willfully importing these hoards of dumb obstinate immature dwarves, I cannot fathom. They can do dumb drudge work, but there’s not a lot of room for improvement beyond that.

    Good thing they’re dwarves is all I can say. If they were big as Samoans, I’d be terrified right now.

    One thing I’ve noticed about them is, while they’ll put up an extremely stupid passionate argument about whatever stupid thing they want to do, and the stupid reason they want to do it, they do tend to back down. Just when I’m about to start getting real with them, they just do what I ask, finally.

    I’ve had it surprise me time and again. A peculiarity about these strange dumb people. They’re basically servile. Thank god.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Anonymous

    Did you ever read In the Courts of the Crimson Kings by SM Stirling? It’s the second book of an alternate history universe where unknown aliens terraformed Mars and Venus 65 or so million years ago, with some changes later. Venus is a hot jungle world full of dinosaurs and tribes of humans who speak an Indo-European language. The second book, set on Mars, deals with the Martians. Unlike the Venusians, the Martians are a separate species of man. They’re a decadent civilization on a dying planet. Their technology, called tembst, is based on genetically engineered organisms. Their “engines” are derived from squids, and their tentacles are bonded to wheels.

    Anyway, the Martians themselves are genetically engineered and selectively bred into various castes. The De’Ming are a semi-sentient race of grunt laborers. Here’s their introduction


    The labor gang squatting on the many-footed cargo pallets trotting forward to the flier's freight ramp were the reason for her complaint. They were De'ming, bred for menial labor by the geneticists—or possibly wizards—of the Crimson Dynasty era. They didn't really look like Earth-humans; they were just thick-bodied and short by this planet's standards, enough that they were well within the Terran bell-curve. That was enough to get anyone below six feet perceived as inherently stupid and servile here. And I don't like their eyes. There's nobody home there.

    Their kind had been working with that same placid, witless docility for the last thirty thousand earth-years or so, just smart enough to take simple directions...
     

    Short, docile (we hope), witless...

    That really reminds me of central Americans.

    What I don’t get is that we had the example of an alien people here to do basic labor in a climate to which we are poorly adapted, visually distinct from Americans, in American blacks. Black people have been an inconvenience to the nation at best. Would anyone, American blacks included, say, “yes. Slavery and its downstream consequences were good overall.”?

    Even in Jefferson’s (Tom, not George) era, smart planters in Virginia realized that the black population was a difficulty. They thought that continued slavery was the best of a bunch of bad options, considering that blacks being here was a fait accompli.

    How could people see American blacks and then import Central Americans to fill that niche in the Southwest at first, but now in the whole country? We have the examples of the European wealthy in Central America pushing the natives to leave. Maybe they know something we don’t? They have more experience with them, so we might consider what they are doing.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d trade blacks for Indios, but that’s not what the capitalists and pro-man class did and are doing.

  81. @HammerJack
    @JimDandy

    Saw that story! Assumed Sailer's Law was in effect because 1) only two out of ten shooting victims were killed and 2) not a peep about you-know-what from the "prestige media."

    NYT:


    Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.
     
    "Also, by sheer coincidence, the definition of "extremist violence" just happens to be "from the political right." Funny how that works out, innit?"

    Replies: @JimDandy

    If you want the straight dope on the mentality of the milieu, check out this amazing interview available on YouTube:

    ‘I Love Chicago’ Shooting victim speaks to media hours after getting shot in mass shooting

  82. @obwandiyag
    Compared to the 1990s, there ain't much murder at all.

    Just sayin'. This is casuistry.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    Yeah, ‘cuz 8/100,000 murders in 2020 is a collapse compared to 1980, with 10/100,000. Why do you post here, retard?

  83. @Carthage Underground
    What really frustrates the left is why white guy violence just doesn't drive away civilization and make a ghost town of the location like colored crime does. It can be explained, but not in a concise way.

    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.

    My guess would be blacks and browns have a persistent and nagging way of eroding the quality of life that a once in every two decade public massacre can't, Homicide will always be the most extreme and rarest sliver of crime that can occur to you- hell, even the crime statistics in Skid Row LA has murder investigated as 1% of the total crime pie. The problem is that slightly higher odds of homicide in an area goes along with a much wider pool of crimes that can happen to you, to where with overwhelming odds you'll be alive and stay that way, but your life will just be made hell.

    A white young social outcast exploding one day and offing a bunch of strangers will always be a tragedy, and a few individuals affected may never recover, but it doesn't drive away commerce and investment the way blacks do. You don't need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bert, @Stan Adams

    This plus
    –Black riots are merely the least deniable salient; these are people who on their best day steal cable, cannot figure out queuing, enter through the exit, blast through red lights, etc.. Civilization takes a million little repairs, and even without the riot this crowd has no time for that. And
    –The “on-narrative mass shooting” (ONMS) really does never happen for planning purposes; it’s an inorganic, new, super-rare event, which can be prevented in numerous ways, and often happens because it was allowed or helped to happen, and then gets massively overhyped in the lyingpress.
    So the riot is like the crowning gesture completing a long litany of contempt, and the ONMS is like an meteor strike interrupting an otherwise orderly system.

  84. Here Steve, see what you can do with this,

    Today, the United States government is proud to announce the first ever emergency food shipments from international relief agencies to help feed American citizens.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/19/biden-announces-first-ever-international-food-relief-shipments-from-switzerland-to-help-feed-hungry-americans/

  85. @Unintended Consequence
    @AnotherDad

    I'm rather taken with the idea of creating parallel institutions: schools, banks, retail. Certainly there are enough cancelled and suspect professors to staff a college. Nepotism could be deployed as a means of circumventing AA for most other endeavors. I assume you're thinking in terms of geography, as well, which I haven't much considered. I guess people could buy portions of a large property; There'd have to be stipulations about how they could dispose it. Ok, I'm lying. I have thought about group purchasing of real estate but for purposes of owning Epstein's Island. Is it for sale? A new and better society could be formed on a tropical isle as easily as anywhere else.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    What you are talking about is consociational democracy & it works, despite leftist calumny.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consociationalism

    To make things clear: it was the basic way of political life in the Netherlands for decades. Three groups (Protestant, Catholics, Atheists/Agnostics) lived parallel lives. They had their own separate unions, school systems, media, parties, …everything.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for the link, I'll give it a read. I'd not heard of consociational before, your example of the Netherlands brings to mind the issue of the religious divide being driven by its status as a Spanish Colony for so long; That what they had was a literal Condominium for distinct Peoples not just Faiths,

  86. @Wilkey
    I love the fact that the ADL data counts a murder (of a white man) committed in North Ogden, Utah as a “white supremacist” murder. Perhaps one of the most famous sets of murders committed in the US happened in Ogden. At least three, and perhaps as many as six, black Air Force enlistees robbed a HiFi shop, and held five white victims hostage. During that time they tortured them, forced them to swallow Drano, raped one of them (an 18 year old girl, who humiliated herself in hopes they would let her live, to no avail), and then shot them and left them for dead. Three of them did die. One of them, just 16-years-old, managed to survive another 28 years with an esophagus made from part of his own intestine. He could eat, but just barely. His father was a beloved ob/gyn who just barely passed away a few years ago well into his 90s.

    The HiFi murders happened before I was born, but they were so gruesome that even I heard of them while growing up. There was a terrific book (“Victim,” by Gary Kinder) and a television movie made about them. Nevertheless when the dates for the executions of the murderers came due, the NAACP threw a fit.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Alden, @Alden

    NAACP was founded by ADL members . And is now and always will be a front group for ADL. At some point I forget when,NAACP blacks decided that a black association should by run by blacks. So they managed to get rid of the Jews. Under the blacks, NAACP has dwindled in influence and membership. At one point NAACP had so little money they planned to file for bankruptcy. But Ford Foundation bailed them out with a huge donation.

    The foundations are one of the most destructive detrimental things in America. They fund all the destruction from school desegregation to transgender. Who knows what they will do next. Probably lower the age of consent to 6. Or make it illegal for Whites to vote because of social justice.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Alden

    NAACP was founded by ADL members .

    The NAACP was founded several years before the ADL

  87. Murders by political extremists are, actually, very rare.

    What most stats present inaccurately are so called “hate crimes”. Evidently, there are tons of hate crimes, especially murders & rapes & rape-murders, perpetrated by blacks against whites which are not categorized as “hate crimes”, but certainly are. Just take the level of sadistic relish & complete depravity in these murders (for instance, Knoxville massacre, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom) and you’ll see that it is fueled by racial hatred.

    If such cases were counted, I think that well over 80% of “hate crimes” would be black against white.

  88. @Stan Adams
    @prosa123

    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.

    (At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, "Nah, we'd still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.")

    Replies: @Midnights, @Reg Cæsar

    “(At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, “Nah, we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.”)”

    Don’t forget about gambling.

  89. @Carthage Underground
    What really frustrates the left is why white guy violence just doesn't drive away civilization and make a ghost town of the location like colored crime does. It can be explained, but not in a concise way.

    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.

    My guess would be blacks and browns have a persistent and nagging way of eroding the quality of life that a once in every two decade public massacre can't, Homicide will always be the most extreme and rarest sliver of crime that can occur to you- hell, even the crime statistics in Skid Row LA has murder investigated as 1% of the total crime pie. The problem is that slightly higher odds of homicide in an area goes along with a much wider pool of crimes that can happen to you, to where with overwhelming odds you'll be alive and stay that way, but your life will just be made hell.

    A white young social outcast exploding one day and offing a bunch of strangers will always be a tragedy, and a few individuals affected may never recover, but it doesn't drive away commerce and investment the way blacks do. You don't need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bert, @Stan Adams

    You don’t need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,

    An interesting comment, but I think you underestimate the degree to which people with IQs above 85 use generalized disorder, e.g., the tidiness of yards, sidewalks and even garbage cans, as a risk assessment criterion for the ultimate hazard: becoming a murder victim. A separate criterion would be the ethnic composition of the neighborhood.

  90. @Stan Adams
    @J.Ross

    Ah, so this will be the real pandemic - the one where the bodies are piling up in the streets. COVID-19 was a test run. Good to know.

    I have a virulently anti-vaxx friend who is now saying that the real purpose of the jabs was to weaken people's immunity to monkeypox. He thinks Soros and his people are trying to depopulate the earth.

    I had my own doubts about the vaxx, but I did get the Johnson & Johnson shot when it first became available in March 2021. I wasn't old enough to qualify at that time, but I took my mother to get hers and the nurse offered me one. I hesitated for a minute but decided to bite the bullet. I figured that the conventional vaccine was somewhat less risky than the mRNA crap.

    To date, I have suffered no apparent ill effects. (I haven't had my sperm count checked in quite a while.)

    I take an agnostic view toward most conspiracy theories. I have no problem believing that George Soros is evil enough to kill millions or even billions of people to further whatever agenda it is that he's pursuing. I'm fairly well convinced that Joseph Robinette Biden did not win the 2020 presidential election. But I have to concede that definitive proof of these nefarious deeds is somewhat elusive.

    Recently I've been rewatching some of my favorite X-Files episodes.

    Yesterday (May 19) was the twentieth anniversary of the original series finale, in which Mulder and Scully learned that the world was scheduled to end in an apocalyptic alien invasion (abetted by the spread of a virus that would transform humans into gestational hosts for extraterrestrial beings) on December 22, 2012. At the time, that date was over ten years in the future; it is now almost ten years in the past.

    If the aliens had kept to their original schedule, we wouldn't have had to endure Obama's second term and all of the ensuing craziness that he unleashed upon America. True, mankind would have gone extinct, but at least we would have been spared the agony of watching Joseph Robinette Biden stumble through his interminable speeches about the evilness of white people.

    Is it a coincidence that the Mayans ended their calendar on December 21, 2012 - a month after Obama's re-election (November 6) and a week after Sandy Hook (December 14)? I think not.

    Smart folks, those Mayans. They knew what was coming.

    Incidentally, I am happy to report that my application to join the Ministry of Truth has been accepted. I now embark on my new existence as an insufferable leftist troll, much in the manner of our good friends Tiny Duck/Ebony Obelisk/whatever and Corvinus.

    I have created a series of graphics to debunk the racist myth that black people are inherently stupider than white people. If we would just fund the schools properly, then the so-called IQ gap would close tighter than Nancy Pelosi's legs.

    https://i.ibb.co/rmc7xjB/math1.png

    https://i.ibb.co/YtJ8BZ7/math2.png

    https://i.ibb.co/DtXZBpT/math3.png

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I like the phrase “virulently anti-vaxx”, Stan. It’s kind of paradoxical. His anti-vaxx speech spreads to others like the most contagious virus, maybe like the Covid-one-niner was supposed to be, early on?

    Haha, anyway, your comments are great fun to read. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You’re welcome. I enjoy reading your comments.

  91. @Achmed E. Newman
    There are more lies being told these days than there are people who can figure them out. The ADL has been warned about this, in Revelation.

    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Richard B

    What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?

    Here’s one answer.
    https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/live-not-by-lies

    It does get really tiring.

    Sure does. They simply can not function without a Scapegoat.
    Life without one for them is inconceivable. The good news is there’s lots of detalied and interesting information on the Internet about the scapegoat from family to culture.

    Should come in handy for whites, since they’re now the official Global Scapegoat.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Richard B

    Thanks for the link to the Solzhenitsyn material, Richard. Everyone should go read there.

    Replies: @Richard B

  92. @Echo Range
    @AnotherDad

    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.

    Pretty happy with my rantings on the Fauci here. I’ve been a consistent Covid “middle of the roader” in the debates here. As I must have said twenty times, once the Diamond Princess docked we had a good rough idea of this thing–not “just the flu bro” but neither any sort of threat to civilization. I opposed the “just the flu bro” guys trying to bogus math deaths away and the hysterics wanting their lockdowns. Now with omicron it is “just the flu” and everybody is done with it.

    Ukraine–I try to keep that nonsense out of the threads. Suffice to say Putin is not saving the white race or Christian civilization. (He’s not even a Russian nationalist.)

    I’m a pretty theoretical “let’s get down to the core of this” guy myself. But tossing out basic–it is what it is–empiricism and letting your “I really want X to be true, so it must be true” is the path of folly.

    Furthermore … people who get all jazzed up over Covid or Ukraine simply do not know which end is up. Neither is important. (Trivial transients. Anyone care in twenty years?)

    What’s killing the West is
    –Minoritarianism. This toxic ideology that a nation’s normal productive majority–at least if white gentiles–must bend to accommodate all the minorities, whiners, loons and parasites. Rather than–properly–the other way around. (A nation takes care of itself and reproducing itself.)

    –And its deadly ride-along partner, immigrationism. (A nation is not entitled to see off invaders and preserve itself.)

    If you can’t see that. Get some glasses.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad

    Here's the big question on the "Vaccine" that I never saw answered.

    Why did the drug companies spend an average of ten years safety testing vaccines for half a century, when a start-up that had never brought a drug to market before could do it in 6 months?
    Why don't the shareholders sue the obviously incompetent managers?

    Replies: @Dmon

  93. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1527471684109860872

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Hundreds? At last count it was something like 38 blacks and 26 whites killed.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Ben tillman

    And, as has been documented in this forum and elsewhere, the first night was pretty much about killing whites. But even if the nyt were to admit that inconvenient truth, they could still fall back upon the fact that even in 1922, whites had no business defending themselves. Because some verities are eternal!

    Ah, the year was 1921. Looking it up, I see that the phrase "race riot" has now been supplanted with "massacre". Control the language and you control just about everything.

    Replies: @Alden

  94. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Unintended Consequence

    What you are talking about is consociational democracy & it works, despite leftist calumny.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consociationalism

    To make things clear: it was the basic way of political life in the Netherlands for decades. Three groups (Protestant, Catholics, Atheists/Agnostics) lived parallel lives. They had their own separate unions, school systems, media, parties, ...everything.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Thanks for the link, I’ll give it a read. I’d not heard of consociational before, your example of the Netherlands brings to mind the issue of the religious divide being driven by its status as a Spanish Colony for so long; That what they had was a literal Condominium for distinct Peoples not just Faiths,

  95. @AnotherDad
    @Echo Range


    A Delta Sierra like you who bought into the ludicrous Covid or Ukraine propaganda should remain silent, kk.
     
    Pretty happy with my rantings on the Fauci here. I've been a consistent Covid "middle of the roader" in the debates here. As I must have said twenty times, once the Diamond Princess docked we had a good rough idea of this thing--not "just the flu bro" but neither any sort of threat to civilization. I opposed the "just the flu bro" guys trying to bogus math deaths away and the hysterics wanting their lockdowns. Now with omicron it is "just the flu" and everybody is done with it.

    Ukraine--I try to keep that nonsense out of the threads. Suffice to say Putin is not saving the white race or Christian civilization. (He's not even a Russian nationalist.)

    I'm a pretty theoretical "let's get down to the core of this" guy myself. But tossing out basic--it is what it is--empiricism and letting your "I really want X to be true, so it must be true" is the path of folly.

    Furthermore ... people who get all jazzed up over Covid or Ukraine simply do not know which end is up. Neither is important. (Trivial transients. Anyone care in twenty years?)


    What's killing the West is
    --Minoritarianism. This toxic ideology that a nation's normal productive majority--at least if white gentiles--must bend to accommodate all the minorities, whiners, loons and parasites. Rather than--properly--the other way around. (A nation takes care of itself and reproducing itself.)

    --And its deadly ride-along partner, immigrationism. (A nation is not entitled to see off invaders and preserve itself.)

    If you can't see that. Get some glasses.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Here’s the big question on the “Vaccine” that I never saw answered.

    Why did the drug companies spend an average of ten years safety testing vaccines for half a century, when a start-up that had never brought a drug to market before could do it in 6 months?
    Why don’t the shareholders sue the obviously incompetent managers?

    • Replies: @Dmon
    @Bill Jones

    Hey, the vaccine was highly effective against covid:

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220512/Study-finds-recent-influenza-vaccination-is-associated-with-an-appreciable-reduction-in-the-risk-of-SARS-CoV-2-infection-and-COVID-19-severity.aspx
    "The results showed that the flu shots reduced the risk of SARS-CoV-2 over the next two weeks by 30%. Conversely, they reduced the risk of severe or fatal COVID-19 by 90%."


    Or were you talking about some other vaccine?

  96. @Richard B
    @Achmed E. Newman


    What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    Here's one answer.
    https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/live-not-by-lies

    It does get really tiring.
     
    Sure does. They simply can not function without a Scapegoat.
    Life without one for them is inconceivable. The good news is there's lots of detalied and interesting information on the Internet about the scapegoat from family to culture.

    Should come in handy for whites, since they're now the official Global Scapegoat.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for the link to the Solzhenitsyn material, Richard. Everyone should go read there.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for your response. Couldn't agree more.

  97. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Stan Adams

    I like the phrase "virulently anti-vaxx", Stan. It's kind of paradoxical. His anti-vaxx speech spreads to others like the most contagious virus, maybe like the Covid-one-niner was supposed to be, early on?

    Haha, anyway, your comments are great fun to read. Thanks!

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    You’re welcome. I enjoy reading your comments.

  98. Dmon says:
    @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad

    Here's the big question on the "Vaccine" that I never saw answered.

    Why did the drug companies spend an average of ten years safety testing vaccines for half a century, when a start-up that had never brought a drug to market before could do it in 6 months?
    Why don't the shareholders sue the obviously incompetent managers?

    Replies: @Dmon

    Hey, the vaccine was highly effective against covid:

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220512/Study-finds-recent-influenza-vaccination-is-associated-with-an-appreciable-reduction-in-the-risk-of-SARS-CoV-2-infection-and-COVID-19-severity.aspx
    “The results showed that the flu shots reduced the risk of SARS-CoV-2 over the next two weeks by 30%. Conversely, they reduced the risk of severe or fatal COVID-19 by 90%.”

    Or were you talking about some other vaccine?

  99. @J.Ross
    @Hypnotoad666

    It is amazing to me how brazenly facile their methodology is. According to our count, everything we counted is in the fake category we made up! Now send us money! The more efficient version is, I counted your money, all your money is in the "mine" category.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    The reason the ADL, like the SPLC, is so effective at raising money is because the people who donate can be 100% certain that their money will only be used to attack people on the right such as disgusting white people. They are a reliable political ally of the left. The SPLC does not even pretend to be neutral although they will claim that it has something to do with leftist politics whatever that means. I think we all know it comes down to race and religion. This means that if you hate white people, goys, conservatives, etc. you can give with complete confidence that your money will go towards fighting them and none of it will go towards fighting all the usual suspects.

  100. @R.G. Camara
    As must be repeated:

    Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a communist terrorist group.

    Replies: @Gore 2004, @War for Blair Mountain, @Mike Tre

    Racial supremacy group.

  101. David the Lion Hearted. Probably a descendent of King Richard himself!

  102. “So, after the celebrated emergence of Black Lives Matter at Ferguson in August 2014, we got less law and order, good and hard as H.L. Mencken might say about today’s elites.”

    False premise.

  103. @Ben tillman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Hundreds? At last count it was something like 38 blacks and 26 whites killed.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    And, as has been documented in this forum and elsewhere, the first night was pretty much about killing whites. But even if the nyt were to admit that inconvenient truth, they could still fall back upon the fact that even in 1922, whites had no business defending themselves. Because some verities are eternal!

    Ah, the year was 1921. Looking it up, I see that the phrase “race riot” has now been supplanted with “massacre”. Control the language and you control just about everything.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Hangnail Hans

    If you have kids in school they’ll learn about the Tulsa and St Louis massacres of evil Whites slaughtering innocent blacks.

    How I have enjoyed telling my grandchildren and friends the truth. But cautioned them not to speak about it to their teachers. Or if they have to do a paper, just paraphrase whatever lies google writes.

    “ But why can’t I tell the truth grandma”
    “ Because the liberals will flunk you or even expel you”
    “ What’s a liberal grandma? “ A liberal is a person who hates White people and wants to kill us all”

    Both riots started with an attempted rape by a black in Tulsa. Suspect was arrested no big deal . But a black mob started rampaging to bust him out.

    St Louis black teacher in the black grade schools fired after not just an accusation, but a through investigation of child molesting or “ taking indecent liberties with a child” Black child molester cane to school district office to hear the results. Told he was fired he shot and killed the White School Superintendent. The word spread. Later that day shit and killed 2 White police officers. And the riot was on.

    From the time it was settled by the French St Louis was the most important and historic city in the Midwest. Chicago over took it of course. But it was still important. And a treasure trove of American history. Clark if the Lewis and Clark expedition lived there the rest of his life. So did Jean Charbonneau the baby born in the expedition . Who went on to explore the west.

    Instead of nasty tract houses and soviet style apartments and commercial buildings, the town is a treasure house of 19th and pre 1940 buildings.

    All gone, like so many of our great cities. The government’s aiding abetting and encouragement of black crime destroys cities.

    Liberals and other minions of Satan disapprove of urban sprawl. Including the commercial and industrial buildings near cities. Only reason those businesses left the cities is because of the blacks. Reason residents left the cities is because of blacks.

    Blacks are the cause of urban sprawl.

  104. @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC

    The Mook Identity

    The Mook Supremacy

    The Mook Ultimatum

    The Mook Legacy

    The Mook Testimony

    The Mook Skedaddle

    The Mook Vamoose

    The Mook Scram

    The Mook Skiddoo

    Mook better be on the move from here on out, because the Clinton Organized Crime Syndicate plays for keeps.

    https://twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1527676828009250816?s=20&t=gRX5R9zmi81LB02hT56KPw

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Hillary Clinton was directly responsible for the disgusting fraud about Russia perpetrated by treasonous rats in the DEEP STATE and the Democrat Party and the rancid and putrid whores in the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    TULSI GABBARD has been one of the only Democrat Party political leaders who has been accurate in her depiction of the Russia — Russia — Russia crud as a deceitfully concocted distraction from real issues that face the USA.

    Tulsi Gabbard has gone her own way on foreign policy by saying that the USA must resist endless regime change wars and pointless hyper-interventionism. Michael Tracey has gone his own way by not buying any of the Russia –Russia –Russia hysteria and propaganda emanating from the corporate media and the Democrat Party and the ruling class of the American Empire. It’s nice to see such young puppies as Tracey and Gabbard showing true strength of character by holding strong to their own integrity!

    Trump ought to know that Tracey ain’t a fan of his, but Michael Tracey was highly skeptical of all this Russia — Russia — Russia crud coming out of the Democrat Party and the DEEP STATE and Hillary Clinton and the corrupt and disgusting corporate propaganda media.

  105. It’s difficult to compare right-wing extremist violence with left-wing extremist violence, since the motivations are different. Left wing violence is a reaction to a real or perceived increase in authoritarianism or social inequality, and is usually committed by middle class urbanites. Right-wing extremist violence is usually a type of vigilante violence, or a reaction to rising anarchy. Hence it tends to be committed by working class individuals (near the “coal face”) and goes up and down in line with the overall level of crime or social chaos.

    If you want less of it then the best thing to do is improve the prospects of the working class and lower the crime rate.

  106. @Carthage Underground
    What really frustrates the left is why white guy violence just doesn't drive away civilization and make a ghost town of the location like colored crime does. It can be explained, but not in a concise way.

    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.

    My guess would be blacks and browns have a persistent and nagging way of eroding the quality of life that a once in every two decade public massacre can't, Homicide will always be the most extreme and rarest sliver of crime that can occur to you- hell, even the crime statistics in Skid Row LA has murder investigated as 1% of the total crime pie. The problem is that slightly higher odds of homicide in an area goes along with a much wider pool of crimes that can happen to you, to where with overwhelming odds you'll be alive and stay that way, but your life will just be made hell.

    A white young social outcast exploding one day and offing a bunch of strangers will always be a tragedy, and a few individuals affected may never recover, but it doesn't drive away commerce and investment the way blacks do. You don't need murders to occur weekly or even annually for a shopping district or neighborhood to go to the dogs; just muggings, theft, noise, threats, grift, and filth is sufficient,

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bert, @Stan Adams

    Imagine how pissed these journalist must be when they realize that Columbine high School is still operating, while the whole of East St. Louis is still a non-functioning dump that everybody left for good.

    A couple of years ago, the Jefferson County school district seriously considered demolishing Columbine and building a new facility nearby. (The school has become a kind of macabre tourist destination and many local people are not happy about it, to put it mildly.) The proposal was scuttled due to lack of funding.

    The only part of the building that was removed after the shooting was the library, where the bulk of the victims died. The new library (in a different location) was built using donated money.

  107. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Richard B

    Thanks for the link to the Solzhenitsyn material, Richard. Everyone should go read there.

    Replies: @Richard B

    Thanks for your response. Couldn’t agree more.

  108. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    It does get really tiring. What do you do in a world full of lies like ours? Stay off the internet? Take up golf course architecture?
     
    How about work to separate?

    The bottom line in all this: They need us we do not need them.

    The ADL and minoritarians in general represent people that are parasites feasting upon the production--and reputation (i.e. the dollar as reserve currency) of a big nation of productive white normies.

    Let's simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Former Liberal, @Goddard, @AnotherDad, @Echo Range, @Corvinus

    “Let’s simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people“.

    It’s all idle talk on your part. I’ve heard this same sentiment for 50 years.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    @Corvinus

    It wasn't idle talk in Buffalo or Waukesha or the NYC Subway system for that matter.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  109. The ADL is the is the biggest driver of antisemitism, after John Stewart.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ghjjhgg

    Jon Stewart's a lying jerk but he's hardly as important to anti-Semitism as the various Aggressively Malignant Dwarves -- the loathsome Robert Reich, the absurd Jerry Nadler, the ridiculous Alejandro Mayorkas, the repugnant Rob Reiner, the proudly bigoted Tim Wise.

    , @Art Deco
    @Ghjjhgg

    Under the direction of Nathan Perlmutter, it stuck to its historical mission, which was increasingly unimportant. You saw the March-of-Dimes effect take hold when Abraham Foxman took over running the agency, where it took to aggressive attacks on the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts, among other things.

  110. @Wilkey
    I love the fact that the ADL data counts a murder (of a white man) committed in North Ogden, Utah as a “white supremacist” murder. Perhaps one of the most famous sets of murders committed in the US happened in Ogden. At least three, and perhaps as many as six, black Air Force enlistees robbed a HiFi shop, and held five white victims hostage. During that time they tortured them, forced them to swallow Drano, raped one of them (an 18 year old girl, who humiliated herself in hopes they would let her live, to no avail), and then shot them and left them for dead. Three of them did die. One of them, just 16-years-old, managed to survive another 28 years with an esophagus made from part of his own intestine. He could eat, but just barely. His father was a beloved ob/gyn who just barely passed away a few years ago well into his 90s.

    The HiFi murders happened before I was born, but they were so gruesome that even I heard of them while growing up. There was a terrific book (“Victim,” by Gary Kinder) and a television movie made about them. Nevertheless when the dates for the executions of the murderers came due, the NAACP threw a fit.

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax, @Alden, @Alden

    Good thing his Dad was a Dr. Always helpful to have a medic in the family.

    Those Airmen should never have been born. Not the parents grandparents and ancestors who passed the vicious genes down to them.

    I’ve always heard the Air Force has higher standards than the army. Guess not. Wonder what it’s like being a White sailor on a huge ship with 5,000 savages and 1,000 Whites.

  111. @Hangnail Hans
    @Ben tillman

    And, as has been documented in this forum and elsewhere, the first night was pretty much about killing whites. But even if the nyt were to admit that inconvenient truth, they could still fall back upon the fact that even in 1922, whites had no business defending themselves. Because some verities are eternal!

    Ah, the year was 1921. Looking it up, I see that the phrase "race riot" has now been supplanted with "massacre". Control the language and you control just about everything.

    Replies: @Alden

    If you have kids in school they’ll learn about the Tulsa and St Louis massacres of evil Whites slaughtering innocent blacks.

    How I have enjoyed telling my grandchildren and friends the truth. But cautioned them not to speak about it to their teachers. Or if they have to do a paper, just paraphrase whatever lies google writes.

    “ But why can’t I tell the truth grandma”
    “ Because the liberals will flunk you or even expel you”
    “ What’s a liberal grandma? “ A liberal is a person who hates White people and wants to kill us all”

    Both riots started with an attempted rape by a black in Tulsa. Suspect was arrested no big deal . But a black mob started rampaging to bust him out.

    St Louis black teacher in the black grade schools fired after not just an accusation, but a through investigation of child molesting or “ taking indecent liberties with a child” Black child molester cane to school district office to hear the results. Told he was fired he shot and killed the White School Superintendent. The word spread. Later that day shit and killed 2 White police officers. And the riot was on.

    From the time it was settled by the French St Louis was the most important and historic city in the Midwest. Chicago over took it of course. But it was still important. And a treasure trove of American history. Clark if the Lewis and Clark expedition lived there the rest of his life. So did Jean Charbonneau the baby born in the expedition . Who went on to explore the west.

    Instead of nasty tract houses and soviet style apartments and commercial buildings, the town is a treasure house of 19th and pre 1940 buildings.

    All gone, like so many of our great cities. The government’s aiding abetting and encouragement of black crime destroys cities.

    Liberals and other minions of Satan disapprove of urban sprawl. Including the commercial and industrial buildings near cities. Only reason those businesses left the cities is because of the blacks. Reason residents left the cities is because of blacks.

    Blacks are the cause of urban sprawl.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  112. If you want to understand the total contempt Jews have for us goyim, read some of the books written between about 1910 and 1950 by Jews about the Leo Frank case and founding of ADL

    You can’t find those books online city library. or a book store only in the library of Congress or older university libraries where I found them. Not in newer colleges.

    In those books not a word of sympathy for White trash Mary who went to work at less than slave wages at age ten for a dollar a week. Hatred and disdain heaped on those starvation wage workers and small farmers who could barely pay their property taxes and buy next year’s seed.

    It’s funny because by the 1920s. 30s and 40s jews were big labor organizers and going south to organize the factories and mines. Into communist not normal labor unions.

    At last the ADL didn’t Mary blame for working in Frank’s factory and blaming her for getting in a place where she could be murdered and raped. As the MEN OF UNZ do every time there’s a story on UNZ about a White woman victim of crime

    • Troll: Charon
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Alden

    You can’t find those books online city library. or a book store only in the library of Congress or older university libraries where I found them. Not in newer colleges.

    But somehow you located them and read them all.

  113. @Stan Adams
    @prosa123

    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.

    (At first, I wrote that the Internet would cease to exist, but then I thought, "Nah, we'd still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.")

    Replies: @Midnights, @Reg Cæsar

    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.

    Thanks to Azer Koçulu, there is a cure for social media– deleting left-pad.

    How one programmer broke the internet by deleting a tiny piece of code

    …we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.

    Those have been around since the century before last.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Reg Cæsar

    You, sir, are an unending wellspring of amazement and amusement.

    We are rapidly approaching the second anniversary of the death of Our Lord and Savior George Floyd, and I find myself grasping to come to terms with the shock of his passing.

    It turns out that Our Lord and Savior George Floyd was born on October 14, 1973, halfway between two of the most significant events of the 1970s - the beginning of the Yom Kippur War (October 6) and the Saturday Night Massacre (October 20).

    Incidentally, it turns out that according to an episode of The X-Files, the nefarious Cigarette Smoking Man had a secret meeting with nefarious extraterrestrials on October 13, 1973. This meeting laid the groundwork for the creation of a new race of alien-human hybrids engineered to survive the viral holocaust by which the world's population would be transformed into gestational hosts for the creation of new extraterrestrial biological entities.

    Is there a connection between these two events? (True, The X-Files is a stupid TV show, but so is the Our Lord and Savior George Floyd narrative parroted by the mainstream media.) Is it conceivable that Our Lord and Savior George Floyd was an alien-human hybrid, engineered at great cost through massive biochemical effort, part of an elaborate extragovernmental exterrestrial conspiracy?

    If so, then this would explain why the establishment went apeshit over his death. Decades of painstaking work and millions of R&D dollars wasted because some stupid cracker cop had to get all uppity over a fake $20 bill.

    Of course, it is conceivable that Derek Chauvin was part of the conspiracy. Another episode of The X-Files featured a race of renegade aliens who were opposed to the plan to destroy humanity. Perhaps Chauvin was working for them. Perhaps he really did *murder* Our Lord and Savior George Floyd and then manipulated the medical evidence to make it look like a simple fentanyl overdose.

    If I end up dead in a bathtub with my organs removed and the police rule it a simple case of suicide, then you will know that I was on to them.

  114. @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan Adams


    If there were a cure for autism *and* a cure for bipolar disorder, then social media as we know it would cease to exist.
     
    Thanks to Azer Koçulu, there is a cure for social media-- deleting left-pad.


    How one programmer broke the internet by deleting a tiny piece of code


    ...we’d still have pirated movies, cat memes, and porn.
     
    Those have been around since the century before last.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-2BYJkewA

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    You, sir, are an unending wellspring of amazement and amusement.

    We are rapidly approaching the second anniversary of the death of Our Lord and Savior George Floyd, and I find myself grasping to come to terms with the shock of his passing.

    It turns out that Our Lord and Savior George Floyd was born on October 14, 1973, halfway between two of the most significant events of the 1970s – the beginning of the Yom Kippur War (October 6) and the Saturday Night Massacre (October 20).

    Incidentally, it turns out that according to an episode of The X-Files, the nefarious Cigarette Smoking Man had a secret meeting with nefarious extraterrestrials on October 13, 1973. This meeting laid the groundwork for the creation of a new race of alien-human hybrids engineered to survive the viral holocaust by which the world’s population would be transformed into gestational hosts for the creation of new extraterrestrial biological entities.

    Is there a connection between these two events? (True, The X-Files is a stupid TV show, but so is the Our Lord and Savior George Floyd narrative parroted by the mainstream media.) Is it conceivable that Our Lord and Savior George Floyd was an alien-human hybrid, engineered at great cost through massive biochemical effort, part of an elaborate extragovernmental exterrestrial conspiracy?

    If so, then this would explain why the establishment went apeshit over his death. Decades of painstaking work and millions of R&D dollars wasted because some stupid cracker cop had to get all uppity over a fake \$20 bill.

    Of course, it is conceivable that Derek Chauvin was part of the conspiracy. Another episode of The X-Files featured a race of renegade aliens who were opposed to the plan to destroy humanity. Perhaps Chauvin was working for them. Perhaps he really did *murder* Our Lord and Savior George Floyd and then manipulated the medical evidence to make it look like a simple fentanyl overdose.

    If I end up dead in a bathtub with my organs removed and the police rule it a simple case of suicide, then you will know that I was on to them.

  115. @Ghjjhgg
    The ADL is the is the biggest driver of antisemitism, after John Stewart.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco

    Jon Stewart’s a lying jerk but he’s hardly as important to anti-Semitism as the various Aggressively Malignant Dwarves — the loathsome Robert Reich, the absurd Jerry Nadler, the ridiculous Alejandro Mayorkas, the repugnant Rob Reiner, the proudly bigoted Tim Wise.

  116. @Ghjjhgg
    The ADL is the is the biggest driver of antisemitism, after John Stewart.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Art Deco

    Under the direction of Nathan Perlmutter, it stuck to its historical mission, which was increasingly unimportant. You saw the March-of-Dimes effect take hold when Abraham Foxman took over running the agency, where it took to aggressive attacks on the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts, among other things.

  117. @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    “Let’s simply separate. Free ourselves from them, and start rebuilding a normal society of the productive normal majority. Yeah, it is a project. But it beats the hell out of living with these people“.

    It’s all idle talk on your part. I’ve heard this same sentiment for 50 years.

    Replies: @epochehusserl

    It wasn’t idle talk in Buffalo or Waukesha or the NYC Subway system for that matter.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @epochehusserl

    “It wasn’t idle talk in Buffalo or Waukesha or the NYC Subway system for that matter.”

    Those were acts of violence by extremists. AnotherDad is talking about secession. Is he or you prepared to fight for it? Besides, does he or even you realize how much work would have to go into into dissolving our nation?

  118. @AndrewR
    Facts and logic won't win this war. Voting won't. Boycotts won't. I'll leave the reader to surmise what will.

    Replies: @Truth

    Facts and logic won’t win this war. Voting won’t. Boycotts won’t. I’ll leave the reader to surmise what will.

    Executive Orders!

  119. @Alden
    @Wilkey

    NAACP was founded by ADL members . And is now and always will be a front group for ADL. At some point I forget when,NAACP blacks decided that a black association should by run by blacks. So they managed to get rid of the Jews. Under the blacks, NAACP has dwindled in influence and membership. At one point NAACP had so little money they planned to file for bankruptcy. But Ford Foundation bailed them out with a huge donation.

    The foundations are one of the most destructive detrimental things in America. They fund all the destruction from school desegregation to transgender. Who knows what they will do next. Probably lower the age of consent to 6. Or make it illegal for Whites to vote because of social justice.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    NAACP was founded by ADL members .

    The NAACP was founded several years before the ADL

  120. @Alden
    If you want to understand the total contempt Jews have for us goyim, read some of the books written between about 1910 and 1950 by Jews about the Leo Frank case and founding of ADL

    You can’t find those books online city library. or a book store only in the library of Congress or older university libraries where I found them. Not in newer colleges.

    In those books not a word of sympathy for White trash Mary who went to work at less than slave wages at age ten for a dollar a week. Hatred and disdain heaped on those starvation wage workers and small farmers who could barely pay their property taxes and buy next year’s seed.

    It’s funny because by the 1920s. 30s and 40s jews were big labor organizers and going south to organize the factories and mines. Into communist not normal labor unions.

    At last the ADL didn’t Mary blame for working in Frank’s factory and blaming her for getting in a place where she could be murdered and raped. As the MEN OF UNZ do every time there’s a story on UNZ about a White woman victim of crime

    Replies: @Art Deco

    You can’t find those books online city library. or a book store only in the library of Congress or older university libraries where I found them. Not in newer colleges.

    But somehow you located them and read them all.

    • LOL: Truth
  121. @epochehusserl
    @Corvinus

    It wasn't idle talk in Buffalo or Waukesha or the NYC Subway system for that matter.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “It wasn’t idle talk in Buffalo or Waukesha or the NYC Subway system for that matter.”

    Those were acts of violence by extremists. AnotherDad is talking about secession. Is he or you prepared to fight for it? Besides, does he or even you realize how much work would have to go into into dissolving our nation?

  122. Rob says:
    @Anonymous
    @HammerJack


    Hispanic migration is increasingly people with very low white admixture from failed states in Central America along with mostly black Dominicans. The main exception was the one-off wave of Venezuelan upper class migration when Chavez’s communists took over.
     
    Yep. I’ve had to deal with a number of them, as they've become a pain in the ass living in a rental property next to my rental property, and my tenants despise them. I’ve tried to talk to them a number of times, and though they were all at least 35 or older, it’s like talking to extremely dense 13 year olds. They’re spectacularly stupid, and not Mexican stupid. They're a special kind of stupid. They’re operating on a different plane of stupidity. Their states are failing for very good reason. They don’t possess the collective brain power to function by modern western standards of government, and they never will.

    Why we are willfully importing these hoards of dumb obstinate immature dwarves, I cannot fathom. They can do dumb drudge work, but there’s not a lot of room for improvement beyond that.

    Good thing they’re dwarves is all I can say. If they were big as Samoans, I’d be terrified right now.

    One thing I’ve noticed about them is, while they’ll put up an extremely stupid passionate argument about whatever stupid thing they want to do, and the stupid reason they want to do it, they do tend to back down. Just when I’m about to start getting real with them, they just do what I ask, finally.

    I’ve had it surprise me time and again. A peculiarity about these strange dumb people. They’re basically servile. Thank god.

    Replies: @Rob

    Did you ever read In the Courts of the Crimson Kings by SM Stirling? It’s the second book of an alternate history universe where unknown aliens terraformed Mars and Venus 65 or so million years ago, with some changes later. Venus is a hot jungle world full of dinosaurs and tribes of humans who speak an Indo-European language. The second book, set on Mars, deals with the Martians. Unlike the Venusians, the Martians are a separate species of man. They’re a decadent civilization on a dying planet. Their technology, called tembst, is based on genetically engineered organisms. Their “engines” are derived from squids, and their tentacles are bonded to wheels.

    Anyway, the Martians themselves are genetically engineered and selectively bred into various castes. The De’Ming are a semi-sentient race of grunt laborers. Here’s their introduction

    [MORE]

    The labor gang squatting on the many-footed cargo pallets trotting forward to the flier’s freight ramp were the reason for her complaint. They were De’ming, bred for menial labor by the geneticists—or possibly wizards—of the Crimson Dynasty era. They didn’t really look like Earth-humans; they were just thick-bodied and short by this planet’s standards, enough that they were well within the Terran bell-curve. That was enough to get anyone below six feet perceived as inherently stupid and servile here. And I don’t like their eyes. There’s nobody home there.

    Their kind had been working with that same placid, witless docility for the last thirty thousand earth-years or so, just smart enough to take simple directions…

    Short, docile (we hope), witless…

    That really reminds me of central Americans.

    What I don’t get is that we had the example of an alien people here to do basic labor in a climate to which we are poorly adapted, visually distinct from Americans, in American blacks. Black people have been an inconvenience to the nation at best. Would anyone, American blacks included, say, “yes. Slavery and its downstream consequences were good overall.”?

    Even in Jefferson’s (Tom, not George) era, smart planters in Virginia realized that the black population was a difficulty. They thought that continued slavery was the best of a bunch of bad options, considering that blacks being here was a fait accompli.

    How could people see American blacks and then import Central Americans to fill that niche in the Southwest at first, but now in the whole country? We have the examples of the European wealthy in Central America pushing the natives to leave. Maybe they know something we don’t? They have more experience with them, so we might consider what they are doing.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d trade blacks for Indios, but that’s not what the capitalists and pro-man class did and are doing.

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