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From ABC News:

Why carjackings have skyrocketed in parts of the country during the pandemic
Carjackings have shot up 537% in Minneapolis this year.
By Andy Fies
December 12, 2020, 9:40 AM

After almost 30 years working as a firefighter in Chicago, Lt. Dwain Williams was familiar with danger.

So perhaps it is not surprising that when confronted by three men trying to take his car, he was prepared to fight rather than forfeit his SUV. He drew the gun that he legally carried. But the carjackers also had guns and fatally shot him, fleeing as they did so. A week later, they remain on the loose.

The assault on Williams, captured on surveillance video recently released by the Chicago police in an effort to identify and catch his killers, focused attention on a dramatic spike in carjackings there. In all of 2019, there were 501 incidents of that crime. So far that number has more than doubled to 1,125 this year, according to the latest Chicago police statistics.

But Chicago is neither the only nor the worst example of this disturbing crime trend. Minneapolis police report that carjackings there have shot up 537% this year. …

Data for auto theft is easier to come by and, according to Herrmann, the numbers show that crime is also spiking in many cities this year, including a rise of 68% in New York, 36% in Los Angeles and 34% in Philadelphia. But carjackings draw attention as the violent, potentially fatal version of auto theft.

“Carjacking is just lazy car thieves or violent car thieves,” said Herrmann. “The normal car thief is going to steal your car while you’re working or sleeping and you’re not going to find out your car is stolen until six hours later.”

And he explains that the pandemic, which has normalized mask-wearing, makes these thefts easier.

“If we weren’t in a pandemic and you saw a guy coming up to your car with a mask on, you probably would freak out and hit the gas pedal,” he explained. “But nowadays, everyone’s wearing masks. So there’s this anonymity part of the pandemic that I think a lot of criminals are taking advantage of.”

Masks and George Floyd Worship don’t really go together, do they?

In the 1960s, I watched a lot of cowboy TV shows, so the correlation between masked men and robbing people with a six-gun was pounded home. But that was a long time ago, so nobody remembers it.

 
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  1. “Masks contribute to the surge in ________”. Fill in the blank. (I’ll go with “people who look like damn fools.”

    • Agree: Polynikes, By-tor, TTSSYF
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Old Prude

    One bizarre thing about this pandemic is that masks make surveillance through facial recognition much more difficult. Here I thought we were moving towards some Chinese-style dystopia where cameras scan and track your face at all times in cities, but apparently that's not the case. Mask-wearing has been permanently normalized around the world.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Old Prude

    “Masks contribute to the surge in stupidity”, Alex?

    You gotta figure that'd be my answer.

    .

    Rats, underline tags don't work.

    Replies: @iDeplorable

  2. This is why people like me, Steve. By my going maskless, the average man on the street with common sense knows I’m no threat to him.

    Speaking of those bandana-style masks, well they pretty much are bandanas, I always make stagecoach or bank robbery jokes to guys like that, who are almost to a man, sick as hell of the face-diapering thing and doing this to make fun of the hysteria (unless they are black and I’m in my car – all bets are off then).

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s what I wear when forced to. A bright red wild west bank robbers hanker chief right out of the movie Tombstone.

    Btw, you know things are bad for the narrative when they’re blaming things on their sacred masks. I guess when know who has more intersectional pokemon points between masked soccer moms and BLM peaceful protestors....as if there was ever any doubt.

    , @Anon7
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I've been wondering if the white people I see in Meijer's and Walmart wearing traditional bandanas covering their faces from the nose down are doing it ironically - they are non-woke people who see themselves as akin to bandits, bad whites who are the good guys.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    , @John Up North
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think a lot of those bandana guys want to look like John Wayne.

    , @Marty
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Last weekend in the Presidio I was walking maskless (as usual). Another man without mask, about 40, accompanied by two masked women, approaches me and says, “here’s a guy with no mask!” Perfect English but a foreign accent. Turns out he’s from Warsaw. He said it’s all bullshit. Then he says, “this is my wife, she’s beautiful.” So not wearing a mask got me introduced to a beautiful masked woman.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  3. So, technically, COVID-related deaths?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous

    COVID-related EXCESSive deaths, technically ...

  4. Cousin Clovid

    Beatin’ CLOVID ain’t no easy tax;
    But a max is just too big a ax,
    On accounta in Dixie
    We drank moonshine wixie
    All day, which we cain’t through a max.

  5. @Anonymous
    So, technically, COVID-related deaths?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    COVID-related EXCESSive deaths, technically …

  6. I guess I’m dating myself but there was a episode in the 1950’s Superman TV series where the criminals of Metropolis decided to create a crime wave to discredit Superman. They donned lead helmets so Superman could not identify them and began robbing all the banks and stores. When one of the street criminals told his boss they had robbed everything his boss just barked at him over the phone “Keep pouring it on, rob them again!”

    • LOL: profnasty
  7. Masks have also contributed to people eating grass, regurgitating it, standing in fields, and occasionally wandering into and getting stuck in barbed wire fences. They also say “moo” a lot.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre


    Masks have also contributed to people eating grass, regurgitating it, standing in fields, and occasionally wandering into and getting stuck in barbed wire fences. They also say “moo” a lot.
     
    Archaeology news: How modern-day analysis could confirm Bible's account of Nebuchadnezzar


    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/590x/Archaeology-news-Bible-King-Nebuchadnezzar-boanthropy-Bible-accurate-1311270.webp?r=1595536711827

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  8. “Carjacking is just lazy car thieves or violent car thieves,” said Herrmann. “The normal car thief is going to steal your car while you’re working or sleeping and you’re not going to find out your car is stolen until six hours later.”

    Does he not know that (thanks to chip-enabled smart keys) cars are much harder to steal nowadays? This is one reason carjackings increased several years ago, though of course it doesn’t explain the sudden surge this year. Only Bad Thoughts can explain that.

  9. @Achmed E. Newman
    This is why people like me, Steve. By my going maskless, the average man on the street with common sense knows I'm no threat to him.

    Speaking of those bandana-style masks, well they pretty much are bandanas, I always make stagecoach or bank robbery jokes to guys like that, who are almost to a man, sick as hell of the face-diapering thing and doing this to make fun of the hysteria (unless they are black and I'm in my car - all bets are off then).

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Anon7, @John Up North, @Marty

    That’s what I wear when forced to. A bright red wild west bank robbers hanker chief right out of the movie Tombstone.

    Btw, you know things are bad for the narrative when they’re blaming things on their sacred masks. I guess when know who has more intersectional pokemon points between masked soccer moms and BLM peaceful protestors….as if there was ever any doubt.

  10. A wasted opportunity by the Right to throw a spanner into facial recognition technology.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @That Would Be Telling

    Thank you for the sincere advice, fellow-Unz-poster. What else are we doing wrong?

    , @Mr. Anon
    @That Would Be Telling


    A wasted opportunity by the Right to throw a spanner into facial recognition technology.
     
    People were already working on facial recognition for masked faces.
  11. Sure blame the masks, not the total rollback of property crime enforcement.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @gent

    Carjacking is more of a violent crime than a property crime.

  12. @Old Prude
    "Masks contribute to the surge in ________". Fill in the blank. (I'll go with "people who look like damn fools."

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    One bizarre thing about this pandemic is that masks make surveillance through facial recognition much more difficult. Here I thought we were moving towards some Chinese-style dystopia where cameras scan and track your face at all times in cities, but apparently that’s not the case. Mask-wearing has been permanently normalized around the world.

  13. Europe has strong mask mandates while wearing masks is normal in East Asia and there was no increase in carjacking. Actually, I’ve never heard of a carjacking in my balkan country or increases in homicide and robberies despite large scale mask wearing since spring.
    This mess has less to do with masks and more with the exceptionalism of a certain group of americans.

    • Agree: By-tor
    • Replies: @Polynikes
    @SIMP simp

    Back in the 90s and 2000s there was a syndicated radio show called Bob & Tom that catered to stand up comedians and bits. One of their most famous one was called Cpt Obvious. I bet it’s still on YouTube.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  14. In the 1960s, I watched a lot of cowboy TV shows, so the correlation between masked men and robbing people with a six-gun was pounded home. But that was a long time ago, so nobody remembers it.

    If I remember right, when caught, they also hung the horse thieves on the spot. Some might even call it lynching.

    Oh well just a thought….

  15. if masks worked we would not being seeing the current wave of COVID cases and deaths. We have solid evidence that asymptomatic spread is nonsense and the solid evidence that masks fail to protect people. Speaking through masks seemed to disperse the largest droplets into a multitude of smaller droplets, airborne longer than large droplets: the use of masks might be counterproductive. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083 . Yet the mandates continue despite clear evidence that wearing cloth masks are probably worse than not wearing a mask.

    Asymptomatic spread was the answer given to the great question: I’m not sick so why should I have to be wear a mask? Why are we quarantining the healthy? And what possibly could it mean, in any case, to be sick without symptoms? Why are half the PCR-positive tests assigned to people who seem to be perfectly fine? A study conducted involving 10 million people showed asymptomatic spread is a myth. Major news! So why is no media outlet covering it? everything we’ve done since May – the mask wearing, the canceling of everything, the wild paranoia – has been a calamitous and destructive waste of time, energy, and money. https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Travis

    None of this stuff is clearly dispositive of the issue.

    That Wuhan study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w ) could be true or could be entirely manufactured or somewhere on between. China understated the impact of Covid (cases and deaths) in wuhan by at least a factor of 10 and probably more. So the rate of discrepancies people on Wuhan is unknown.

    Supposedly only 4% of people on Wuhan had antibodies by mid year. (https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/10/23/Fewer-than-4-of-people-in-Wuhan-have-COVID-19-antibodies-study-finds/9611603464946/ )

    It's possible, but it's also possible the number is made up. It's ALSO possible that a survey based on t-cell immunity vs antibodies would also show a much higher prevalence. IDK.

    Further, "asymptomatic" is hard to adjudicate precisely and widely. Do you take your temperature every day? I don't. I just went walking in the cold and had to blow my nose when I came back. Is that a symptom?

    Also, "asymptomatic spread" even if false is a useful bromide. This way, of anyone gets it, they could've picked it up "anywhere" . Better that than witch hunts, imo.

    And let's not get into the guy coughing behind me in line at the store and not even maintaining 6 feet distance.

    , @Lurker
    @Travis


    A study conducted involving 10 million people showed asymptomatic spread is a myth
     
    Thats what I've been wondering. Asymptomatic spread is something I vaguely recall from perhaps a disaster/sci-fi novel or two or a movie. But it occurred to me that I'd never heard of it as an actual issue IRL. And when you hear the media/political complex push a concept that normally only exists in fiction it's best to fire up the bullshit detector.

    See also: genius black scientists, gang rape by white men of black women, asian trainee doctors lecturing whitey on the immorality of cheating in exams etc.
  16. @Achmed E. Newman
    This is why people like me, Steve. By my going maskless, the average man on the street with common sense knows I'm no threat to him.

    Speaking of those bandana-style masks, well they pretty much are bandanas, I always make stagecoach or bank robbery jokes to guys like that, who are almost to a man, sick as hell of the face-diapering thing and doing this to make fun of the hysteria (unless they are black and I'm in my car - all bets are off then).

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Anon7, @John Up North, @Marty

    I’ve been wondering if the white people I see in Meijer’s and Walmart wearing traditional bandanas covering their faces from the nose down are doing it ironically – they are non-woke people who see themselves as akin to bandits, bad whites who are the good guys.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Anon7

    That's what I do, I have a shemagh worn in the "bandit" configuration that I pull up over the nose whenever a cuck-muzzle is "required."

  17. In the 1960s, I watched a lot of cowboy TV shows, so the correlation between masked men and robbing people with a six-gun was pounded home. But that was a long time ago, so nobody remembers it.

    Oh they remember it alright. They’re just on the side of the robbers now.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Almost Missouri

    Exactly right, AM.

  18. It’s amazing how many people are unclear on the concept of cause and effect.

  19. @Old Prude
    "Masks contribute to the surge in ________". Fill in the blank. (I'll go with "people who look like damn fools."

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Achmed E. Newman

    “Masks contribute to the surge in stupidity”, Alex?

    You gotta figure that’d be my answer.

    .

    Rats, underline tags don’t work.

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Achnad, even though you've posted an astounding more than 6,000 comments this year, Car Grease is almost 500 ahead of you in the Geriatric Word Diarrhea Olympics. He's clocking at 18/day while you're only barely over 17/day.

    You better pick up the pace. Just grab some random Youtube videos and get 'em in. I'm rooting for you (seriously, I am). Don't worry about quality (not that you ever have) or keeping them on-topic -- post, post like the wind.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  20. • Replies: @Not Raul
    @JohnnyWalker123

    She makes a good point.

    Nobody should vote for election-thief Loeffler.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A trend? A contagion?

    Paul Behrends, who lost his job on the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee after links to Russia were reported, suffered a head injury close to his home on Friday night.

    Also, don't name your son Alice:


    Man arrested for chasing Maine McDonald’s employees with chainsaw

    At least he is wearing a mask-- for the mug shot.


    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/Alice_Sweet.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1

  21. “If we weren’t in a pandemic and you saw a guy coming up to your car with a mask on, you probably would freak out and hit the gas pedal,” he explained.

    If I saw an unfamiliar black guy (or guys) coming up to my window, I’d floor it whether they were wearing masks or not.

  22. @Achmed E. Newman
    This is why people like me, Steve. By my going maskless, the average man on the street with common sense knows I'm no threat to him.

    Speaking of those bandana-style masks, well they pretty much are bandanas, I always make stagecoach or bank robbery jokes to guys like that, who are almost to a man, sick as hell of the face-diapering thing and doing this to make fun of the hysteria (unless they are black and I'm in my car - all bets are off then).

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Anon7, @John Up North, @Marty

    I think a lot of those bandana guys want to look like John Wayne.

  23. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Old Prude

    “Masks contribute to the surge in stupidity”, Alex?

    You gotta figure that'd be my answer.

    .

    Rats, underline tags don't work.

    Replies: @iDeplorable

    Achnad, even though you’ve posted an astounding more than 6,000 comments this year, Car Grease is almost 500 ahead of you in the Geriatric Word Diarrhea Olympics. He’s clocking at 18/day while you’re only barely over 17/day.

    You better pick up the pace. Just grab some random Youtube videos and get ’em in. I’m rooting for you (seriously, I am). Don’t worry about quality (not that you ever have) or keeping them on-topic — post, post like the wind.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @iDeplorable

    This ought to help, iD. Every littlest bit counts.

    It's good to hear from you now and then, but please don't tell me you're my number one fan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGGwDmCTha8

  24. It’s funny but the other day I was getting gas in a “vibrant” neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop. And they were both wearing bandanas over their face. I thought to myself for a moment that gee, these guys look like they are ready to hold up the gas station. But this being the modern era, it’s no problem to mask up and I dismissed these racist thoughts from my mind. They were probably both doctors or something, which would account for why they were driving a late model Jag.

    BTW, although I am a big mask advocate whenever I have to go indoors anywhere but home, I don’t usually wear a mask when I am outdoors such as pumping gas. I think that the science supports that you are not likely to get Covid outdoors from a passing stranger.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Jack D


    It’s funny but the other day I was getting gas in a “vibrant” neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop.
     
    Last week I was in a diverse, but v low black, neighborhood in the parking lot of a strip mall waiting for something. The car next to me was a black couple. After a while I started smelling something fruity.
    A while later yet the car drove away and on the pavement were two large take-out cups, one spilled, half full of pink soft drink and some wadded napkins. There was a trash can 30' in front of the car and in plain sight.

    I've noticed this before on occasion in large store parking lots: people eating in the car and then just throwing the packaging out the door on the ground. In this area it is almost always black people (and I notice it because it's rare).

    Not to say that white people don't /didn't litter, but it seems that signs, public service campaigns, etc have made it a lot less acceptable and less practiced.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @profnasty
    @Jack D

    "Science."
    Lol. I see what you did there.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    This is why people like me, Steve. By my going maskless, the average man on the street with common sense knows I'm no threat to him.

    Speaking of those bandana-style masks, well they pretty much are bandanas, I always make stagecoach or bank robbery jokes to guys like that, who are almost to a man, sick as hell of the face-diapering thing and doing this to make fun of the hysteria (unless they are black and I'm in my car - all bets are off then).

    Replies: @Polynikes, @Anon7, @John Up North, @Marty

    Last weekend in the Presidio I was walking maskless (as usual). Another man without mask, about 40, accompanied by two masked women, approaches me and says, “here’s a guy with no mask!” Perfect English but a foreign accent. Turns out he’s from Warsaw. He said it’s all bullshit. Then he says, “this is my wife, she’s beautiful.” So not wearing a mask got me introduced to a beautiful masked woman.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Marty

    Was the other one the wife's sister? Go for it. You can take the masks off at the wedding for "you may kiss the bride", I guess, and cross your fingers before hand. "Life is like a box of cherries ...".

    The drawback of such a marriage would be the curtailment of any and all Pollock jokes.

  26. Fewer people on the sidewalks means fewer potential witnesses, and fewer people who could intervene.

    That makes carjacking safer for the carjacker than usual.

  27. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/diana_west_/status/1339277102982569985

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Reg Cæsar

    She makes a good point.

    Nobody should vote for election-thief Loeffler.

  28. Personally I believe that the main news people are normally interested in is about crime, sports and perhaps personality gossip. And the occasional and inevitable political scandal.

    Yet as Unz readers know, crime is now verboten to report unless the victim is too Important To Ignore.

    Sports, yeah, they still feature that, or did when sports was permitted. Now it is a declining industry. Well covered in major places and in local radio shows (in major cities.) But beyond the obvious it is mostly opinion or speculation.

    Gossip and scandal gets covered in the non print media when those involved either are prominent or the amount of money involved (if money is the scandal, not sex) is large enough.

    I figure a newspaper/website covering these issues in detail, like in the ancient times when news was fit to print, would be very popular. Now the economics of print and advertising are tricky, in these times of Google and Internet pop up ads. But still who doesn’t want crime news? Not just a white (White!) thing either. Those living in danger zones probably want it more than most.

    A good idea, like others, waiting for some deep pockets. Maybe soon…

  29. @Jack D
    It's funny but the other day I was getting gas in a "vibrant" neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop. And they were both wearing bandanas over their face. I thought to myself for a moment that gee, these guys look like they are ready to hold up the gas station. But this being the modern era, it's no problem to mask up and I dismissed these racist thoughts from my mind. They were probably both doctors or something, which would account for why they were driving a late model Jag.

    BTW, although I am a big mask advocate whenever I have to go indoors anywhere but home, I don't usually wear a mask when I am outdoors such as pumping gas. I think that the science supports that you are not likely to get Covid outdoors from a passing stranger.

    Replies: @vhrm, @profnasty

    It’s funny but the other day I was getting gas in a “vibrant” neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop.

    Last week I was in a diverse, but v low black, neighborhood in the parking lot of a strip mall waiting for something. The car next to me was a black couple. After a while I started smelling something fruity.
    A while later yet the car drove away and on the pavement were two large take-out cups, one spilled, half full of pink soft drink and some wadded napkins. There was a trash can 30′ in front of the car and in plain sight.

    I’ve noticed this before on occasion in large store parking lots: people eating in the car and then just throwing the packaging out the door on the ground. In this area it is almost always black people (and I notice it because it’s rare).

    Not to say that white people don’t /didn’t litter, but it seems that signs, public service campaigns, etc have made it a lot less acceptable and less practiced.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @vhrm

    In England they call this fly-tipping (where, per metric system, it's upgraded to dumping the entire household trash), yet despite the different languages and measurement systems a certain color coding continues to predict for the behavior. In our society a century or more ago we went through this neo-Druid thing about seeing nature as beautiful. Nobody* else sees nature this way.

    *Japanese are white for these purposes.

  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/diana_west_/status/1339277102982569985

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Reg Cæsar

  31. Glad to know carjackers are following the Covid rules with respect of the masks. Do they also follow the six feet rule when the driver is evacuated from the car? How about using a disinfectant wipe on the steering wheel and door? One can only hope that the answer is yes for both.

  32. @iDeplorable
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Achnad, even though you've posted an astounding more than 6,000 comments this year, Car Grease is almost 500 ahead of you in the Geriatric Word Diarrhea Olympics. He's clocking at 18/day while you're only barely over 17/day.

    You better pick up the pace. Just grab some random Youtube videos and get 'em in. I'm rooting for you (seriously, I am). Don't worry about quality (not that you ever have) or keeping them on-topic -- post, post like the wind.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    This ought to help, iD. Every littlest bit counts.

    It’s good to hear from you now and then, but please don’t tell me you’re my number one fan.

  33. Their favorite lie in the world is to blame urban crime on Phantom Nazis. And yet here, they are not advancing theories as to the white rurality of the carjackers. Why not? The Democrat normalization of violent crime and criminalization of policing has created an opportunity for the Hunter scenario of evil rural whites entering blue metropoli to commit crimes just to make blacks look bad. Consider: nobody is ever going to catch those guys. It’s license to murder.

  34. @vhrm
    @Jack D


    It’s funny but the other day I was getting gas in a “vibrant” neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop.
     
    Last week I was in a diverse, but v low black, neighborhood in the parking lot of a strip mall waiting for something. The car next to me was a black couple. After a while I started smelling something fruity.
    A while later yet the car drove away and on the pavement were two large take-out cups, one spilled, half full of pink soft drink and some wadded napkins. There was a trash can 30' in front of the car and in plain sight.

    I've noticed this before on occasion in large store parking lots: people eating in the car and then just throwing the packaging out the door on the ground. In this area it is almost always black people (and I notice it because it's rare).

    Not to say that white people don't /didn't litter, but it seems that signs, public service campaigns, etc have made it a lot less acceptable and less practiced.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    In England they call this fly-tipping (where, per metric system, it’s upgraded to dumping the entire household trash), yet despite the different languages and measurement systems a certain color coding continues to predict for the behavior. In our society a century or more ago we went through this neo-Druid thing about seeing nature as beautiful. Nobody* else sees nature this way.

    *Japanese are white for these purposes.

    • Agree: Gordo
  35. @Travis
    if masks worked we would not being seeing the current wave of COVID cases and deaths. We have solid evidence that asymptomatic spread is nonsense and the solid evidence that masks fail to protect people. Speaking through masks seemed to disperse the largest droplets into a multitude of smaller droplets, airborne longer than large droplets: the use of masks might be counterproductive. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083 . Yet the mandates continue despite clear evidence that wearing cloth masks are probably worse than not wearing a mask.

    Asymptomatic spread was the answer given to the great question: I’m not sick so why should I have to be wear a mask? Why are we quarantining the healthy? And what possibly could it mean, in any case, to be sick without symptoms? Why are half the PCR-positive tests assigned to people who seem to be perfectly fine? A study conducted involving 10 million people showed asymptomatic spread is a myth. Major news! So why is no media outlet covering it? everything we’ve done since May – the mask wearing, the canceling of everything, the wild paranoia – has been a calamitous and destructive waste of time, energy, and money. https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

    Replies: @vhrm, @Lurker

    None of this stuff is clearly dispositive of the issue.

    That Wuhan study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w ) could be true or could be entirely manufactured or somewhere on between. China understated the impact of Covid (cases and deaths) in wuhan by at least a factor of 10 and probably more. So the rate of discrepancies people on Wuhan is unknown.

    Supposedly only 4% of people on Wuhan had antibodies by mid year. (https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/10/23/Fewer-than-4-of-people-in-Wuhan-have-COVID-19-antibodies-study-finds/9611603464946/ )

    It’s possible, but it’s also possible the number is made up. It’s ALSO possible that a survey based on t-cell immunity vs antibodies would also show a much higher prevalence. IDK.

    Further, “asymptomatic” is hard to adjudicate precisely and widely. Do you take your temperature every day? I don’t. I just went walking in the cold and had to blow my nose when I came back. Is that a symptom?

    Also, “asymptomatic spread” even if false is a useful bromide. This way, of anyone gets it, they could’ve picked it up “anywhere” . Better that than witch hunts, imo.

    And let’s not get into the guy coughing behind me in line at the store and not even maintaining 6 feet distance.

  36. @That Would Be Telling
    A wasted opportunity by the Right to throw a spanner into facial recognition technology.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon

    Thank you for the sincere advice, fellow-Unz-poster. What else are we doing wrong?

  37. @Anon7
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I've been wondering if the white people I see in Meijer's and Walmart wearing traditional bandanas covering their faces from the nose down are doing it ironically - they are non-woke people who see themselves as akin to bandits, bad whites who are the good guys.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    That’s what I do, I have a shemagh worn in the “bandit” configuration that I pull up over the nose whenever a cuck-muzzle is “required.”

  38. @gent
    Sure blame the masks, not the total rollback of property crime enforcement.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Carjacking is more of a violent crime than a property crime.

  39. @SIMP simp
    Europe has strong mask mandates while wearing masks is normal in East Asia and there was no increase in carjacking. Actually, I've never heard of a carjacking in my balkan country or increases in homicide and robberies despite large scale mask wearing since spring.
    This mess has less to do with masks and more with the exceptionalism of a certain group of americans.

    Replies: @Polynikes

    Back in the 90s and 2000s there was a syndicated radio show called Bob & Tom that catered to stand up comedians and bits. One of their most famous one was called Cpt Obvious. I bet it’s still on YouTube.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Polynikes

    Half of that duo is still going. Don't recall which one. I don't commute to work anymore. Capt Obvious was good. So was Shirtless Girl.

  40. OT but….

    In my recent comments I have roughed in the outlines of how The Great Reset that is being rolled out is, with Bill Gates acting as public spokesman, a plan whereby all the major players in America’s infrastructure shall be integrated under one vast overarching computer program which will not merely collate and administer but actually issue policy directives which will be implemented by empty suits such as the ever compliant and submissive Biden. This is a revolution in human affairs in as much as whereas formerly, computer ran game theory scenarios which were taken under advisement by boards and think tanks, this new development actually put the computer in the driver’s seat. Its directives would be taken as policy. Since it is (deemed to be) smarter than we are, it is high time that we let it run our affairs.

    Now comes the denouement. According the linked Daily Mail article, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9064709/Russian-hack-federal-government-hard-overstate-says-ex-homeland-security-adviser.html virtually all of our vital government agencies have been hacked. Whether by the “Russians” or others is a moot point.

    The important point is that this was foreseeable and inevitable. Inevitable for the simple reason that if everything is brought together within one system, then a hack in one place is a hack for all. This is one of the key arguments for (true) diversity. A loose coalition of independent agencies suffers from a lag in taking up slack when responding to a crisis, but that is a price well worth paying if in exchange it provides the security from a breach such as the one we are seeing.

    The Masters of the Universe were so intent on solidifying control that they lost sight of any possible counterespionage that could thwart their scheme. They knocked out all the internal bulkheads–the better to lord it over the passengers in steerage–but in doing so, when the ship was breached, it sank, taking down all hands–officers included.

  41. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    I have a nostalgic fondness now, as an old guy, for the way The Lone Ranger episodes would end. A group of four or five people would be watching the masked man and Tonto ride off. A youngish person says, “I never did ask him his name.” Then, the old timer in the group says. “You don’t know? Why, he’s The Lone Ranger!” Back in the day, respect for old people — they know stuff that young people don’t.

  42. @Marty
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Last weekend in the Presidio I was walking maskless (as usual). Another man without mask, about 40, accompanied by two masked women, approaches me and says, “here’s a guy with no mask!” Perfect English but a foreign accent. Turns out he’s from Warsaw. He said it’s all bullshit. Then he says, “this is my wife, she’s beautiful.” So not wearing a mask got me introduced to a beautiful masked woman.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Was the other one the wife’s sister? Go for it. You can take the masks off at the wedding for “you may kiss the bride”, I guess, and cross your fingers before hand. “Life is like a box of cherries …”.

    The drawback of such a marriage would be the curtailment of any and all Pollock jokes.

  43. @Almost Missouri

    In the 1960s, I watched a lot of cowboy TV shows, so the correlation between masked men and robbing people with a six-gun was pounded home. But that was a long time ago, so nobody remembers it.
     
    Oh they remember it alright. They're just on the side of the robbers now.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Exactly right, AM.

  44. @That Would Be Telling
    A wasted opportunity by the Right to throw a spanner into facial recognition technology.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon

    A wasted opportunity by the Right to throw a spanner into facial recognition technology.

    People were already working on facial recognition for masked faces.

  45. @Mike Tre
    Masks have also contributed to people eating grass, regurgitating it, standing in fields, and occasionally wandering into and getting stuck in barbed wire fences. They also say "moo" a lot.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Masks have also contributed to people eating grass, regurgitating it, standing in fields, and occasionally wandering into and getting stuck in barbed wire fences. They also say “moo” a lot.

    Archaeology news: How modern-day analysis could confirm Bible’s account of Nebuchadnezzar

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Reg Cæsar

    I was worried when I saw your reply because I thought you were going to correct my spelling of the word "moo."

    But wasn't the name Nebuchadnezzar the basis for the craft Jesus, I mean, Neo, and his disciples occupied in the movie The Matrix?

    As always, thanks for the reference.

  46. @Travis
    if masks worked we would not being seeing the current wave of COVID cases and deaths. We have solid evidence that asymptomatic spread is nonsense and the solid evidence that masks fail to protect people. Speaking through masks seemed to disperse the largest droplets into a multitude of smaller droplets, airborne longer than large droplets: the use of masks might be counterproductive. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083 . Yet the mandates continue despite clear evidence that wearing cloth masks are probably worse than not wearing a mask.

    Asymptomatic spread was the answer given to the great question: I’m not sick so why should I have to be wear a mask? Why are we quarantining the healthy? And what possibly could it mean, in any case, to be sick without symptoms? Why are half the PCR-positive tests assigned to people who seem to be perfectly fine? A study conducted involving 10 million people showed asymptomatic spread is a myth. Major news! So why is no media outlet covering it? everything we’ve done since May – the mask wearing, the canceling of everything, the wild paranoia – has been a calamitous and destructive waste of time, energy, and money. https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

    Replies: @vhrm, @Lurker

    A study conducted involving 10 million people showed asymptomatic spread is a myth

    Thats what I’ve been wondering. Asymptomatic spread is something I vaguely recall from perhaps a disaster/sci-fi novel or two or a movie. But it occurred to me that I’d never heard of it as an actual issue IRL. And when you hear the media/political complex push a concept that normally only exists in fiction it’s best to fire up the bullshit detector.

    See also: genius black scientists, gang rape by white men of black women, asian trainee doctors lecturing whitey on the immorality of cheating in exams etc.

  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre


    Masks have also contributed to people eating grass, regurgitating it, standing in fields, and occasionally wandering into and getting stuck in barbed wire fences. They also say “moo” a lot.
     
    Archaeology news: How modern-day analysis could confirm Bible's account of Nebuchadnezzar


    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/590x/Archaeology-news-Bible-King-Nebuchadnezzar-boanthropy-Bible-accurate-1311270.webp?r=1595536711827

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    I was worried when I saw your reply because I thought you were going to correct my spelling of the word “moo.”

    But wasn’t the name Nebuchadnezzar the basis for the craft Jesus, I mean, Neo, and his disciples occupied in the movie The Matrix?

    As always, thanks for the reference.

  48. Masks cause carjacking just like guns cause murder. In the mind of an NPR listener, this is science. And polls show that Biden voters are more scientific than Trump voters.

  49. And in other news, rain contributes to surge in wet streets.

  50. @Jack D
    It's funny but the other day I was getting gas in a "vibrant" neighborhood and there were a couple of guys in a Jaguar with dark tinted windows and they were emptying the trash in their car by tossing it out the windows onto the blacktop. And they were both wearing bandanas over their face. I thought to myself for a moment that gee, these guys look like they are ready to hold up the gas station. But this being the modern era, it's no problem to mask up and I dismissed these racist thoughts from my mind. They were probably both doctors or something, which would account for why they were driving a late model Jag.

    BTW, although I am a big mask advocate whenever I have to go indoors anywhere but home, I don't usually wear a mask when I am outdoors such as pumping gas. I think that the science supports that you are not likely to get Covid outdoors from a passing stranger.

    Replies: @vhrm, @profnasty

    “Science.”
    Lol. I see what you did there.

  51. So a guy in a mask walks into a bar.
    Bartender says, “What’ll ya have?”
    Guy says, “Everything in the register.”

  52. @Polynikes
    @SIMP simp

    Back in the 90s and 2000s there was a syndicated radio show called Bob & Tom that catered to stand up comedians and bits. One of their most famous one was called Cpt Obvious. I bet it’s still on YouTube.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Half of that duo is still going. Don’t recall which one. I don’t commute to work anymore. Capt Obvious was good. So was Shirtless Girl.

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