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A friend points out this article in today’s New York Post:
Variety of mutilated animals found strewn in city parks
By Aaron Short September 6, 2015 | 3:18amThere’s magic in New York City’s parks — black magic.
More than a dozen mutilated animals have been discovered in the past 18 months, apparent victims of ritual sacrifice, records show.
New Yorkers found four severed goat heads, scores of mutilated chickens and other birds, three butchered pigs and a calf’s head, according to 311 complaint data.
The Fort George Playground in Highbridge Park in upper Manhattan was fouled by a particularly gruesome animal mutilation in January 2014 — a goat head “pinned up on one of the trees” and the body “wrapped in a red sheet and on the ground,” a 311 caller reported.
Goat heads were twice found in another kiddie park, the Lincoln Road Playground inside Prospect Park in Brooklyn.
In the same park, a passer-by noticed a dead duck and two decapitated doves placed “in possibly some sort of ritual” near a statue of Challenger astronaut Ronald McNair in June 2014.
“The bodies are forming a ring and the heads are very close to this ring,” the caller reported. …
Parks officials could not say if the animals were butchered in the public spaces or dumped, but acknowledged some could have been used in religious rituals.
Practitioners of Santeria, Voudun and similar religions who wish to inflict pain upon an individual will sometimes sacrifice animals and leave carcasses in areas of significance, or rely on priests to practice the ritual on their behalf, experts have said. And the location of the ritual is as important as the ritual itself.
“There may be symbolism in particular statues or a particular tree or a particular place,” said Yale African American Studies and Anthropology professor Jafari Allen. “None of this is by chance.”
Allen, who grew up in New York City, said it is “ridiculous” for rituals to be policed and that gentrifiers shouldn’t be alarmed.
“It was unremarkable 15 years ago,” he said. “And now it is something scary and unfamiliar to new Brooklynites and Harlemites.”
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RFRA!
So what’s all that about?
– Santeria or voodoo rituals?
This may have to do with Santeria or Voodoo (oh, it’s “Voudun” now? whatever) but also perhaps not. What is certainly true is that the range between cultural practices for many refugees and immigrants is miles away from what it once was.
I remember 40 years ago when the Boat People started arriving in California and after a brief period getting acclimated in places like Camp Pendleton they went out on their own to places like San Francisco. Then articles started appearing about animal traps being found all over Golden Gate Park, which annoyed the residents who liked the small mammals, not realizing that for Southeast Asian migrants trapping small animals for food was normal. But it’s like, all relative, man.
Of course we actually have laws against animal cruelty in the United States. I hope Professor Allen doesn’t have any pets.
One. More. Time:
Import The Third World and You ARE The Third World.
Rather than butchering animals at random locations, maybe we could offer Haitians and other Caribbeans some nice ritual sacrifice area off in some corner of the park.
Add some faucets, hoses and storm drains. Maybe an altar, stone carving of Baphomet, something like that. It would satisfy the Haitian religious desires, with the added advantage of being easy to hose down and clean up. Add a dumpster for carcasses and leftover body parts.
Put it on the park maps so Non-Pagan Americans (NPAs) would know what areas of the park to avoid. Alternatively, if NPAs wanted to watch they would know exactly where to go. Heck, it could become quite a tourist attraction: frenzied, ecstatic dancing in animal skins, painted bodies, native drumming, etc. Sort of a mini-Carneval right there in NYC.
No flash equipment allowed, of course.
Rotting entrails: this is what vibrancy smells like.
I think Haitians could make a good case for religious discrimination. Since NYC permits Jews to do their ritual chicken choking ceremonies (Kapparot) right out on the streets of Brooklyn, where does the city get off telling Haitians they can’t sacrifice small animals, too?
http://jafariallen.com/blackqueerdiaspora-a-special-issue-of-glq-a-journal-of-lesbian-and-gay-studies-2/
Jafari Allen
Black/Queer/Diaspora
Black/Queer/Diaspora at the Current Conjuncture
In this special double issue of GLQ, queer theory meets critical race theory, transnationalism, and Third World feminisms in analyses of the Black queer diaspora. Contributors apply social science methodologies to theories born out of the humanities to produce innovative, humane, and expansive readings of on-the-ground social conditions around the world. The contributors to this issue draw on radical Black and women-of-color feminisms to examine the embodied experience of the Black queer diaspora.
I don't know if the administration realizes what a weapons-grade piece of identity politics they've brought into the White House. With that many oppression points, she could have the president impeached for as little as passing gas within thirty yards of her.
Is it Merlinpeen already?
To be fair, it’s not any more disgusting than Fr. McFeely cornholing the altar boys.
Wait until the gentrifiers move above Harlem to Washington Heights. They’re they will be awaken by roosters every morning. Many Dominicans keep chickens coops on their terraces and roofs.
Jafari Allen
Black/Queer/Diaspora
Black/Queer/Diaspora at the Current Conjuncture
In this special double issue of GLQ, queer theory meets critical race theory, transnationalism, and Third World feminisms in analyses of the Black queer diaspora. Contributors apply social science methodologies to theories born out of the humanities to produce innovative, humane, and expansive readings of on-the-ground social conditions around the world. The contributors to this issue draw on radical Black and women-of-color feminisms to examine the embodied experience of the Black queer diaspora.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @WowJustWow
In other words, he just spins 80’s deconstructionist verbage with identity politics on top, like every other -Studies programmer. There’s no there there.
So many lefties and race agitators are getting paid one way or another and usually via the taxpayer though there are often a few cut outs obscuring that connection. The most common way is via a public university teaching gig or a phony anti-poverty program that accomplishes nothing but paying the staff and some connected recipients.
You omitted one thing. He is getting paid. In this case by Yale university, so at least the taxpayers are not getting ripped off.
So many lefties and race agitators are getting paid one way or another and usually via the taxpayer though there are often a few cut outs obscuring that connection. The most common way is via a public university teaching gig or a phony anti-poverty program that accomplishes nothing but paying the staff and some connected recipients.
Two words: bohemian grove
Add some faucets, hoses and storm drains. Maybe an altar, stone carving of Baphomet, something like that. It would satisfy the Haitian religious desires, with the added advantage of being easy to hose down and clean up. Add a dumpster for carcasses and leftover body parts.
Put it on the park maps so Non-Pagan Americans (NPAs) would know what areas of the park to avoid. Alternatively, if NPAs wanted to watch they would know exactly where to go. Heck, it could become quite a tourist attraction: frenzied, ecstatic dancing in animal skins, painted bodies, native drumming, etc. Sort of a mini-Carneval right there in NYC.
No flash equipment allowed, of course.Replies: @gruff, @Seminumerical, @Bill B.
Are you mad? Composting is the only solution.
It’s interesting that the satanic panic of the 1980’s was launched by Lawrence Pazder, a canadian psychiatrist who had previously practiced medicine in Nigeria.
It appears that his hypnotherapeutic conjuring of a widespread satanic cult in North America was inspired by Pazder’s knowledge of african mgaical and religious traditions. What we think of as Satanism in our mass culture is really a mishmash of various african religions and to a lesser extent, Solomonic magic. So all that really nasty stuff: animal and human sacrifice, enslavement of human souls, curses, etc. is real. Its just a part of african diaspora cultures, not European diaspora cultures.
So it’s strange that the satanic panic accusations were made entirely by an against white christians.
Then again, since the Jimmy Savvile scandal, accusations of global elite conspiracy to sexually abuse minor girls seem a lot more credible.
“There may be symbolism in particular statues or a particular tree or a particular place,” said Yale African American Studies and Anthropology professor Jafari Allen. “None of this is by chance.”
http://afamstudies.yale.edu/publications/venceremos
Add some faucets, hoses and storm drains. Maybe an altar, stone carving of Baphomet, something like that. It would satisfy the Haitian religious desires, with the added advantage of being easy to hose down and clean up. Add a dumpster for carcasses and leftover body parts.
Put it on the park maps so Non-Pagan Americans (NPAs) would know what areas of the park to avoid. Alternatively, if NPAs wanted to watch they would know exactly where to go. Heck, it could become quite a tourist attraction: frenzied, ecstatic dancing in animal skins, painted bodies, native drumming, etc. Sort of a mini-Carneval right there in NYC.
No flash equipment allowed, of course.Replies: @gruff, @Seminumerical, @Bill B.
If you wrote that up formally and submitted it to Mayor De Blasio he’d likely consider it seriously. Do it!
My inner Beavis just had an aneurysm.
Why didn’t the Catholics have many pederasty problems before, say, 1960?
This is nothing. When they start on humans, start worrying.
wait till it’s bits of kids
Import The Third World and You ARE The Third World.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
Nothing to add.
Off Topic/On Topic: Took my kids to the amusement park here today in the DFW area. We got there when it opened and out of the 100 people who were there by the time we left after 90 minutes or so, I counted ~5 white people besides ourselves. There was a single (divorced?) dad and his daughter and a 40+ year old couple with 1 kid. The rest of the park guests were Indian, Chinese(?), Mexican and Black (in descending order by group size). Robert Putnam wept.
In Hialeah, near Miami, they tried to stop animal sacrifice but the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Lukumi_Babalu_Aye_v._City_of_Hialeah
Since IS destroyed the temple to Ba’al in Palmyra, we need somewhere to make our sacrifices. Hey, with the new all-chick Ghostbusters coming out, move the temple of Gozar to Prospect Park in Brooklyn.
Are you the gatekeeper?
Maybe I got a Milkbone…
Where’s PETA when you need them? Surely they must be against this horrible practice. Are they are too scared to criticize this practice due to some unspoken reason?
Were they enjoying themselves? The colored folks that is? Estimated IQ 200, John Stuart Mill theory of utilitarianism, as I understand it- the greatest happiness for the greatest number- would be in support of such a situation. If whites are now the downer group, then that sucks for you. But drop the attitude and you might start enjoying life again.
John Stuart Mill hailed from a unicultural England and, as an employee of the East India Company, said the following, “To suppose that the same international customs, and the same rules of international morality, can obtain between one civilized nation and another, and between civilized nations and barbarians, is a grave error.” So, please fuck off.
What are a few chicken parts
compared to Chicago’s west side.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-garfield-park-childs-foot-20150905-story.html
I don’t doubt JSM may have been an Anglo racist.
But does his idea stand the test of time? Do colored folks deserve the same happiness as Anglos? I say yes. Absolutely.
It's become a fight to keep our own nice things.
There is an exciting aspect of the various juju/muti ritual/magical killings practiced in Africa, entailing that when they (for example) cut off the penis of a passerby, the removed body part gets more charged with efficacy if the penis’s former owner suffers more during the process of penis-harvesting…once we start getting those stories taking place in the USA, one wonders if that would tend to increase or decrease American acceptance of blood sacrifice of animals in their local area
I remember 40 years ago when the Boat People started arriving in California and after a brief period getting acclimated in places like Camp Pendleton they went out on their own to places like San Francisco. Then articles started appearing about animal traps being found all over Golden Gate Park, which annoyed the residents who liked the small mammals, not realizing that for Southeast Asian migrants trapping small animals for food was normal. But it's like, all relative, man.
Of course we actually have laws against animal cruelty in the United States. I hope Professor Allen doesn't have any pets.Replies: @Trumpenprole
Voudun is the past tense of Voodoo!
Convergence with “low” voodoo and “high art” happenings, Steve. The Kipper Kids cut hanging goat bodies and let the blood drain on ’em in the 60s. Funny things going on with animals in various venue at the “high” end these days too. Very observant.
Whatever dude. Live by JSM, die by him. Where did I say colored people (nice appelation btw) don’t deserve to be happy? I was remarking on the changing face of America. I didn’t ask my leaders to import H1Bs to the degree that they have. I didn’t ask my leaders to turn a blind eye to illegal immigration. Social cohesion in America is at its nadir. Everywhere I look, this is evident.
So, please take your simplistic pleas for colored people happiness elsewhere.
It's been awhile since I went, but the same sense of white flight is present in this park.Can't be a good feeling. No one knows what it's like to the bad man, the sad man, behind blue eyes.
But, sometimes a rollercoaster is just fun, you know.
Add some faucets, hoses and storm drains. Maybe an altar, stone carving of Baphomet, something like that. It would satisfy the Haitian religious desires, with the added advantage of being easy to hose down and clean up. Add a dumpster for carcasses and leftover body parts.
Put it on the park maps so Non-Pagan Americans (NPAs) would know what areas of the park to avoid. Alternatively, if NPAs wanted to watch they would know exactly where to go. Heck, it could become quite a tourist attraction: frenzied, ecstatic dancing in animal skins, painted bodies, native drumming, etc. Sort of a mini-Carneval right there in NYC.
No flash equipment allowed, of course.Replies: @gruff, @Seminumerical, @Bill B.
A safe space for ritual slaughter?
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scotland-boys-heart-removed-horrific-ritual-killing-1478347
Weird and interesting. As a college student in Manhattan in the mid 1970’s, I was a regular reader of the Amsterdam Weekly News…0ne story was about the unexpected capture of a black bull calf , found galloping down Broadway on the
West side…theory was that this was connected to the Santeria religious sect, which was becoming prominent in the area at the time .
Jafari Allen
Black/Queer/Diaspora
Black/Queer/Diaspora at the Current Conjuncture
In this special double issue of GLQ, queer theory meets critical race theory, transnationalism, and Third World feminisms in analyses of the Black queer diaspora. Contributors apply social science methodologies to theories born out of the humanities to produce innovative, humane, and expansive readings of on-the-ground social conditions around the world. The contributors to this issue draw on radical Black and women-of-color feminisms to examine the embodied experience of the Black queer diaspora.Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @WowJustWow
Speaking of intersectionality, The SWPL-erati on my Facebook feed just about soiled themselves with happiness at the news that the White House hired a Jewish transwoman of color: http://www.themarysue.com/white-house-first-transgender-staffer/
I don’t know if the administration realizes what a weapons-grade piece of identity politics they’ve brought into the White House. With that many oppression points, she could have the president impeached for as little as passing gas within thirty yards of her.
Speaking of “mutilated animals”…
Yes. At home.
Yeah, I’m well aware your position. And I saw the same dynamic here at Six Flags in Valencia, Ca.
It’s been awhile since I went, but the same sense of white flight is present in this park.
Can’t be a good feeling. No one knows what it’s like to the bad man, the sad man, behind blue eyes.
But, sometimes a rollercoaster is just fun, you know.
How about whereever the Anglos are? Which is everywhere.
From a populist/nationalist perspective JSMs biggest cock up was the promotion of representative democracy – democracy for the representatives and their backers, and an internationalist dictatorship imposed on everyone else.
Why don’t we directly elect the ministers for each core government policy area – that way they wouldn’t be able to smuggle in unpopular immigration policies which undermine long-term national survival.
"The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good, in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it."
John Stuart Mill
It's my belief that Anglos are well beyond creating lock-down Anglo or Anglo/Anglo Caretaker states.All Hail the Anglo!
Here's another:
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
John Stuart Mill
BTW, I met a direct descendent of JSM in high school. He was a complete mediocrity, did nothing of note even for a high schooler. But nice kid though.
Indeed. The Narrative: only homos who bugger little boys are the ones in the Catholic hierarchy.
Said no yellow in defense of “diversity” in the yellow man’s territory, ever.
Go lecture your own kind.
The original comment reminded me of the Wine Train Incident of a couple weeks ago. These places were made for white people and those of other races with a modicum of decorum, acting white if you will. When the critical mass of ill-behaved other is reached, most white people instinctively adopt the Derbyshire Laws.
It’s become a fight to keep our own nice things.
Everywhere nice, anyway. Why is that?
I know nothing of Roman Catholics and their strange practices, but Queer Vicar jokes were a staple of schoolboy humor in my 1950s English childhood.
Until very recently, people were paranoid about the attractiveness of Catholic priests to adult women.
JSM was a classic Anglo liberal. Here’s a choice quote:
“The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good, in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it.”
John Stuart Mill
It’s my belief that Anglos are well beyond creating lock-down Anglo or Anglo/Anglo Caretaker states.All Hail the Anglo!
Here’s another:
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
John Stuart Mill
BTW, I met a direct descendent of JSM in high school. He was a complete mediocrity, did nothing of note even for a high schooler. But nice kid though.
Catholic diocesan priests have always honored chastity in the breach on a non-universal but still somewhat common basis, but prior to Vatican II, and for much of the following decades outside the hotbeds of reform, they were doing it with adult women, either (unless they were stupid) married or post-menopausal. Since the average Catholic priest was smarter than the average row-house Catholic husband, the children sometimes sired were eugenic, and raised disproportionately in stable households never knowing that Father was their father. Indeed, since mother was usually being serviced by her husband as well, even the women didn’t really know half the time.
All religions tend to have a higher proportion of homosexuals and bisexuals in their clergy than in the population at large, but the Catholic Church in the US somewhat actively encouraged homosexuals to become priests starting in some places in the 70s and continuing through modern times, although most dioceses have backed off somewhat. The theory was since a Catholic gay man had to be celibate, and gays could be celibate as well as straights, why, homosexual orientation, which unlike homosexual behavior was not a sin, was no impediment to priesthood.
Gays took to the priesthood like ducks to water. Fabulous vestments, pageantry, a liturgical musical oeuvre ranking second only to The Trolley Song, what was not to like? The only problem was that gay men were different than straight men, and not only in the matter of with whom they liked to have sex, but their level of interest and obsession with sex, their ability to restrain themselves, and in the age ranges of those that they were interested in as well as their sex.
To be fair, there are gay priests that have kept their vows of chastity and others whose transgressions have at least not caused scandal. But the percentages are wildly different.
The other aspect to the Catholic Church’s problem with homosexual clergy is that while Protestant ministers are in effect employees of the individual church or of a small organization in most church polities, a Catholic priest is far more embedded in the fabric of his diocese and the worldwide Catholic church, which is as religions go very wealthy. The only rival the Catholic church has in terms of wealth is the LDS Church, which apart from its top ecclesiastical structure has no professional clergy as such. The Catholic Church has deep, deep pockets.
My mother, who was in a position to know-she retired with 36 years in the archdiocese-told us that very few priests violated celibacy at all but that most who did did it with non-Catholic women and out of the diocese. She also said that priests who were going to do it were discreetly encouraged to be vasectomized, on the grounds that since priests weren't supposed to have relations in the first place it wasn't really a sin for them to have it done. She also said that many nuns who taught in the rougher inner city schools were on birth control pills in case they got raped and also because otherwise the whole convent would get their period on the same day, which caused unnecessary strife. She herself had a tubal ligation after my younger sister was born, and when it came to the attention of the archbishop she nearly got fired.
Both my parents were very Catholic, but they thought the church's position on birth control was simply ridiculous and they ignored it. They had three kids and we were all born three years apart, and all in April or May. Mother later commented that "you don't want to be pregnant in the hot summer".
Rock stars have their groupies, ballplayers their Baseball Annies, and even cops, firefighters and locomotive engineers have their female fans with open legs, but a Catholic priest has a certain special appeal to a certain type of woman. That’s not new. But it’s a really small group and one priests know very well to avoid, and usually do. The smart ones stuck to young housewives or 45-and-up women of some means and something to lose if it got out.
All religions tend to have a higher proportion of homosexuals and bisexuals in their clergy than in the population at large, but the Catholic Church in the US somewhat actively encouraged homosexuals to become priests starting in some places in the 70s and continuing through modern times, although most dioceses have backed off somewhat. The theory was since a Catholic gay man had to be celibate, and gays could be celibate as well as straights, why, homosexual orientation, which unlike homosexual behavior was not a sin, was no impediment to priesthood.
Gays took to the priesthood like ducks to water. Fabulous vestments, pageantry, a liturgical musical oeuvre ranking second only to The Trolley Song, what was not to like? The only problem was that gay men were different than straight men, and not only in the matter of with whom they liked to have sex, but their level of interest and obsession with sex, their ability to restrain themselves, and in the age ranges of those that they were interested in as well as their sex.
To be fair, there are gay priests that have kept their vows of chastity and others whose transgressions have at least not caused scandal. But the percentages are wildly different.
The other aspect to the Catholic Church's problem with homosexual clergy is that while Protestant ministers are in effect employees of the individual church or of a small organization in most church polities, a Catholic priest is far more embedded in the fabric of his diocese and the worldwide Catholic church, which is as religions go very wealthy. The only rival the Catholic church has in terms of wealth is the LDS Church, which apart from its top ecclesiastical structure has no professional clergy as such. The Catholic Church has deep, deep pockets.Replies: @smuffinpumper
Not anymore it doesn’t. It has a lot of fixed and illiquid assets, but its cash position isn’t very good. The Mormons have more than they know what to do with.
My mother, who was in a position to know-she retired with 36 years in the archdiocese-told us that very few priests violated celibacy at all but that most who did did it with non-Catholic women and out of the diocese. She also said that priests who were going to do it were discreetly encouraged to be vasectomized, on the grounds that since priests weren’t supposed to have relations in the first place it wasn’t really a sin for them to have it done. She also said that many nuns who taught in the rougher inner city schools were on birth control pills in case they got raped and also because otherwise the whole convent would get their period on the same day, which caused unnecessary strife. She herself had a tubal ligation after my younger sister was born, and when it came to the attention of the archbishop she nearly got fired.
Both my parents were very Catholic, but they thought the church’s position on birth control was simply ridiculous and they ignored it. They had three kids and we were all born three years apart, and all in April or May. Mother later commented that “you don’t want to be pregnant in the hot summer”.