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The right to humiliate high school girl track athletes who want a fair chance at winning a running race has become one of the touchstones of modern liberalism, but why should this crucial freedom be restricted merely to the two-legged?
@Steve_Sailer He identified as a female dog, and destroyed all the women. Good boy!https://t.co/uOviMUaJ0E
— @DosXXMachina (@DosXXMachina) April 25, 2021
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Steve,
More importantly, did the dog win a college scholarship with that performance? 🤔
All the (visible) runners were white, which struck me as odd but then I saw the “Logan Grizzlies” chalked on the track and it all made sense…
One is tempted to post a comment containing the word “bitch” somewhere.
But decency forbids that.
I don’t think they were shooting for Tokyo, it’s more likely the sort of competition Americans use in their resumes, in order to make up for average standardized scores, when they “compete” for university admissions. In this case, it’s tough – I suspect the dog would also beat the children in SAT maths.
Lol, women’s sports are such a fucking joke. It’s such an insult to me that we allow this display of narcissism, dishonesty, privilege, amorality and vanity in our society.
Imagine celebrating the pitiful athleticism of a human female, when pet dogs can outrun the fastest humans even when the human has a 50m head start. Just look how stiff, robotic, retarded, unflexible, and autistic these women look compared to the effortless grace of the dog (who spends most of its time laying on the couch).
If women want to be in front of an audience they can twerk. These stiff spines look like they couldn’t even do that.
A couple times I saw one of those horse races where the jockey falls off at the starting gate and the horse who just got this free gift of not carrying a hundred pounds worth of jockey on its back happily runs around the track with the other horses, just toying with them … I was happy .
The Run For the
RosesMilk-Bones.My dog certainly thinks he’s a person.
Who are we as a society to judge?
Hey, Buzz Mohawk put this video in yesterday, Steve. Now, if the video just had Chariots of Fire music to go with it…
What a nice change for the usual stupidity!
The frontier in trans rights.
Otherkin Are People Too; They Just Identify as Nonhuman
https://www.vice.com/en/article/mvxgwa/from-dragons-to-foxes-the-otherkin-community-believes-you-can-be-whatever-you-want-to-be
So hateful to mislabel a member trans-species community as a human.
You will have your bank account cancelled by 2025.
https://images.vice.com/vice/images/articles/meta/2015/07/03/from-dragons-to-foxes-the-otherkin-community-believes-you-can-be-whatever-you-want-to-be-1435922539.png
Otherkin Are People Too; They Just Identify as Nonhuman
https://www.vice.com/en/article/mvxgwa/from-dragons-to-foxes-the-otherkin-community-believes-you-can-be-whatever-you-want-to-beReplies: @Danindc, @Charlie12345
This is a place for learned gentleman. Don’t post pictures like this please.
This will never fly, because it’ll have disparate impact on blacks, who specialize in those short distances that the dogs are fast at. Karen and Becky aren’t going to find any dogs lining up with them in the 800, 1500 or 3000 meters.
The political right is overreacting to the transgender sports issue.
Sailer says it’s not “fair” to let biological males identifying as females play in girl sports, because they have biological advantages. Sports is loaded with biological advantages, some people are taller or have longer legs. Arguably that isn’t “fair” either.
Normal men look to the women in their life to set the norms on social, sexual issues like this and follow their lead. That’s what I plan to do. If normal girls get upset at transgenders participating in girl sports, the parents will fight it. If normal girls don’t mind, then it won’t be an issue.
I’m a (hetero) dad with (hetero) daughters. I will follow the lead of my wife and daughters on this. But I’m not going to get upset now, before any of them are complaining.
And the logic you attribute to Sailer should lead us to also segregate sports by race. Black bodies mature faster and are said to hold biological advantages over Whites in a number of athletic fields: sprinting, cornerback, etc.
One thing you overlook is the social and life cycle harm done to women by female sports.
And you should not be letting females lead you on anything. You're the man. Act like it.Replies: @Hi There
I’m pretty sure a large, healthy, working-dog can kick any man’s ass at any distance. I’ve seen first hand what they can do on mountains and trails…
And, as far as dogs know, they are human, because they look to you as their alpha. On the other hand™, maybe they think you are a dog. A = A in either direction for them, it seems.
I think dogs have a pretty clear idea about the distinction between themselves and humans. It's humans that, unfortunately, sometimes think of their dogs as people — their baby, their buddy, their psychiatrist, etc.
Some interesting experiments, in this connection, have been performed. Puppies have been taken at birth from their mother and raised in an all-human environment, to be reintroduced to dogs at the age of four months. These puppies learn very quickly to get along with dogs. In the reverse experiment, where puppies have been kept unaware of humans until four months of age, they never become comfortable with humans. (That's from John Bradshaw's Dog Sense, which I suspect you'd enjoy very much.)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Sailer says it's not "fair" to let biological males identifying as females play in girl sports, because they have biological advantages. Sports is loaded with biological advantages, some people are taller or have longer legs. Arguably that isn't "fair" either.
Normal men look to the women in their life to set the norms on social, sexual issues like this and follow their lead. That's what I plan to do. If normal girls get upset at transgenders participating in girl sports, the parents will fight it. If normal girls don't mind, then it won't be an issue.
I'm a (hetero) dad with (hetero) daughters. I will follow the lead of my wife and daughters on this. But I'm not going to get upset now, before any of them are complaining.Replies: @Anonymous, @Buzz Mohawk, @AndrewR
Exactly. Only a small percentage of boys can even be winners at sports because of biological advantages. So it’s most girls lumped into a huge percentage of boys who are effectively excluded. That’s not really that exclusionary when you are in the same situation as a lot of boys.
And the logic you attribute to Sailer should lead us to also segregate sports by race. Black bodies mature faster and are said to hold biological advantages over Whites in a number of athletic fields: sprinting, cornerback, etc.
One thing you overlook is the social and life cycle harm done to women by female sports.
Growing up, I had a Honda mini trail bike and a German Shepherd dog. Every time I rolled that motor bike out of the garage, my dog would jump up and down and squeal with delight. He loved running with me, mile after mile on our dirt roads. No man on foot could have kept up with him, at any distance.
Sailer says it's not "fair" to let biological males identifying as females play in girl sports, because they have biological advantages. Sports is loaded with biological advantages, some people are taller or have longer legs. Arguably that isn't "fair" either.
Normal men look to the women in their life to set the norms on social, sexual issues like this and follow their lead. That's what I plan to do. If normal girls get upset at transgenders participating in girl sports, the parents will fight it. If normal girls don't mind, then it won't be an issue.
I'm a (hetero) dad with (hetero) daughters. I will follow the lead of my wife and daughters on this. But I'm not going to get upset now, before any of them are complaining.Replies: @Anonymous, @Buzz Mohawk, @AndrewR
Hi There, you said:
You are neglecting the fact that women and girls are susceptible to peer pressure and social trends. You are the husband and father, and they need you to have some balls and think for yourself.
Women’s and girls’ sports exist so that women and girls can play and compete in sports. That’s the whole point. This transgender nonsense is just confusing people, including you, apparently.
You are a man because the cells in your body have X and Y chromosomes. That makes you bigger, stronger, more aggressive, as God or Nature intended. Women and girls love and respect that.
Be a man. You are one, after all.
Taking the lead from females has brought us to this point. Too soft and emotional over what is clear cut cases of logic.
I almost wish votes were given only to intact families with kids. Because they are the only ones who have futures. And only one vote per family.Replies: @Hi There, @Abolish_public_education
The man leads in the family. Thank you!
Taking the lead from females has brought us to this point. Too soft and emotional over what is clear cut cases of logic.
I almost wish votes were given only to intact families with kids. Because they are the only ones who have futures. And only one vote per family.
You say, women tend to be more emotional and less logical; I'd agree and I fit that stereotype. Women can be cunning, unforgiving and vicious as well.
I'd highly recommend this audio interview with Joyce Benenson on the gender differences, and some problems with the feminization of culture:
https://www.thepodcastbrowser.com/how-men-and-women-socialize-differently/
Dogs are the best.
Good doggie. She just wanted to join in the sport. I don’t imagine that girl begrudged the dog her victory.
Perhaps. The challenge then would be to make the dog want to run a long distance. Multiple laps around a track would strike the dog as uniquely pointless.
I think dogs have a pretty clear idea about the distinction between themselves and humans. It’s humans that, unfortunately, sometimes think of their dogs as people — their baby, their buddy, their psychiatrist, etc.
Some interesting experiments, in this connection, have been performed. Puppies have been taken at birth from their mother and raised in an all-human environment, to be reintroduced to dogs at the age of four months. These puppies learn very quickly to get along with dogs. In the reverse experiment, where puppies have been kept unaware of humans until four months of age, they never become comfortable with humans. (That’s from John Bradshaw’s Dog Sense, which I suspect you’d enjoy very much.)
They can still do that. If my daughters complain, then I will act. If my daughters are happy I’m a nice dad.
I am bigger stronger than women. My wife, daughters, sons, family all love me. Daughters socialize their dads. Men normally follow social norms set by women. That’s how it works.
I think dogs have a pretty clear idea about the distinction between themselves and humans. It's humans that, unfortunately, sometimes think of their dogs as people — their baby, their buddy, their psychiatrist, etc.
Some interesting experiments, in this connection, have been performed. Puppies have been taken at birth from their mother and raised in an all-human environment, to be reintroduced to dogs at the age of four months. These puppies learn very quickly to get along with dogs. In the reverse experiment, where puppies have been kept unaware of humans until four months of age, they never become comfortable with humans. (That's from John Bradshaw's Dog Sense, which I suspect you'd enjoy very much.)Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Read my other reply to you.
The “working-dog” type loves to work and run if that is what its alpha is doing. You will have no problem getting them to do that, as I never have.
Your last paragraph shows the desirability all of us dog-raisers-trainers-owners understand: Once the puppy is able to live without nursing on his mother, take him in and begin to teach him. He will bond with you, and you will become his alpha.
Dogs don’t go around thinking like we do, “am I a dog or a human.” They relate to what’s around them. Naturally, if you take a puppy too late, it has grown beyond it’s ability to change. This is analogous to how humans have a hard time picking up new languages after a certain age, whereas they instinctively just learn languages as children, even multiple languages.
The Transgender movement is extremely misogynistic – they really do hate biological women (ironically many biological women now support a movement that hates them). Now, to be sure, normal men are occasionally annoyed by women, but they are restrained in being too harsh to them as they had to make nice to their daughters, wives, girlfriends. Trans people had no such restraints.
“Four legs good, two legs bad.” – K. Jenner, candidate for Governor of California who now identifies as canine.
One of the videos of Lars at the Survival Russia YouTube channel has a dog accompanying a motorised journey into the forest (I don’t remember if the guys were in a 4 x 4 or on bikes) and the pooch had no problem keeping up.
The dog should be disqualified for crossing in front of the girl at the finish.
Who let the dog out?
Sailer says it's not "fair" to let biological males identifying as females play in girl sports, because they have biological advantages. Sports is loaded with biological advantages, some people are taller or have longer legs. Arguably that isn't "fair" either.
Normal men look to the women in their life to set the norms on social, sexual issues like this and follow their lead. That's what I plan to do. If normal girls get upset at transgenders participating in girl sports, the parents will fight it. If normal girls don't mind, then it won't be an issue.
I'm a (hetero) dad with (hetero) daughters. I will follow the lead of my wife and daughters on this. But I'm not going to get upset now, before any of them are complaining.Replies: @Anonymous, @Buzz Mohawk, @AndrewR
Women shouldn’t be doing competitive sports at all so I don’t care if trannies kill girls’ sports.
And you should not be letting females lead you on anything. You’re the man. Act like it.
Hi There said: Sailer says it’s not “fair” to let biological males identifying as females play in girl sports, because they have biological advantages. Sports is loaded with biological advantages, some people are taller or have longer legs. Arguably that isn’t “fair” either.
You lifted that argument directly from that Rachel McKinnon bicycling jackass, who is observably neither a male nor female athlete, just a big fat man. Ok, then, if it’s fair to allow the boys who like to wear dresses to compete against girls, why not other boys? Let all the boys compete against all the girls on the field, all the boys will win, and that will be fair.
Taking the lead from females has brought us to this point. Too soft and emotional over what is clear cut cases of logic.
I almost wish votes were given only to intact families with kids. Because they are the only ones who have futures. And only one vote per family.Replies: @Hi There, @Abolish_public_education
I’ve got an intact family with beautiful kids.
Women are more socially dominant and always have been. Even in wild animal societies, like ape societies, the men are stronger and fight the wars, but the women are more dominant in family life and raising children.
You say, women tend to be more emotional and less logical; I’d agree and I fit that stereotype. Women can be cunning, unforgiving and vicious as well.
I’d highly recommend this audio interview with Joyce Benenson on the gender differences, and some problems with the feminization of culture:
https://www.thepodcastbrowser.com/how-men-and-women-socialize-differently/
I gotta believe Hi There, in addition to being a reference to “Big Time” by Peter Gabriel, is trolling.
Twerking is kind of gross and stone-age-tribal-ritual-ish…. There are much more graceful and sexy ways of women displaying themselves. Cirque du Soleil, ballet dancing, sometimes stripping….
The general sentiment is appreciated, however. The Elizabethans had it right: a woman can be a queen, but never an actor, voter, or priest.
More importantly, did the dog win a college scholarship with that performance? 🤔Replies: @Jim Don Bob
No, because it was white.
Taking the lead from females has brought us to this point. Too soft and emotional over what is clear cut cases of logic.
I almost wish votes were given only to intact families with kids. Because they are the only ones who have futures. And only one vote per family.Replies: @Hi There, @Abolish_public_education
Traditionally, women had little interest in politics. They were content to allow their husbands to politically speak (vote) for the family.
Every expansion of voting rights has created a constituency for bigger government (“Now it’s our turn!”). We should disenfranchise women; or men.
If the kids go to public school, the father (head of household) forfeits his [family’s] voting rights.
What a nice change for the usual stupidity!Replies: @anonymous
Saw this on FB. Way funny.
Here’s a thinker: are girls entitled to be shielded from competition?
Wouldn’t it nice if I could shield from competition for that job I want or that mate I want, wouldn’t that be nice?
There’s a Canadian trans women, Stefonknee Wolscht, who made the news in 2015 for identifying and living as a six year old girl. At the time, Stefonknee was 52. Should the 200 lb trans girl be allowed to play on a soccer team for six year old girls? If a chronological six year girl identifies as a 21 year old, should she be allowed to have sex, drink, and enlist in the military? You’ll probably say no.
But if you accept the logic of transsexualism for social and legal purposes, is it obviously illogical to allow someone to identify as other than their chronological age? After all, we’re told biological age and mental age are different from chronological age, and age is a state a mind, etc.
Wouldn't it nice if I could shield from competition for that job I want or that mate I want, wouldn't that be nice?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @S. Anonyia, @Charlotte
Much of human society consists of finding good ways to shield people from all-out competition. For example, the great majority of sports leagues in America are restricted by age to prevent them from being unfairly dominated by older or younger athletes.
https://images.vice.com/vice/images/articles/meta/2015/07/03/from-dragons-to-foxes-the-otherkin-community-believes-you-can-be-whatever-you-want-to-be-1435922539.png
Otherkin Are People Too; They Just Identify as Nonhuman
https://www.vice.com/en/article/mvxgwa/from-dragons-to-foxes-the-otherkin-community-believes-you-can-be-whatever-you-want-to-beReplies: @Danindc, @Charlie12345
“Otherkin Are People Too; They Just Identify as Nonhuman”
So hateful to mislabel a member trans-species community as a human.
You will have your bank account cancelled by 2025.
Wouldn't it nice if I could shield from competition for that job I want or that mate I want, wouldn't that be nice?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @S. Anonyia, @Charlotte
Yes.
Aren’t middle school boys entitled to play other middle-schoolers so they don’t get broken bones and concussions from 18 y/o seniors?
It’s not a “thinker” at all. The answer is obvious, your probable dislike of women/girls blinds you.
The more reasonable comments on here are coming from frequent commentators, who I suspect are mostly older. The less reasonable ones are likely from men closer to my own age, who whether liberal or conservative, like to turn simple acknowledgement of sex differences into a bizarrely intense generalized vendetta against women.
Maybe it’s the lack of vitamin D from staring at computer screens altering normal brain chemistry.
Wouldn't it nice if I could shield from competition for that job I want or that mate I want, wouldn't that be nice?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @S. Anonyia, @Charlotte
Here’s a thought experiment for you.
There’s a Canadian trans women, Stefonknee Wolscht, who made the news in 2015 for identifying and living as a six year old girl. At the time, Stefonknee was 52. Should the 200 lb trans girl be allowed to play on a soccer team for six year old girls? If a chronological six year girl identifies as a 21 year old, should she be allowed to have sex, drink, and enlist in the military? You’ll probably say no.
But if you accept the logic of transsexualism for social and legal purposes, is it obviously illogical to allow someone to identify as other than their chronological age? After all, we’re told biological age and mental age are different from chronological age, and age is a state a mind, etc.
And you should not be letting females lead you on anything. You're the man. Act like it.Replies: @Hi There
Oh jeeez… I’m just a nice guy 🙂
Radical surgery is rarer than one might think, here is a philosophy professor who has a book on the subject already being reviewed: published next month
Dude, the proper appellation is Person of Penis.
The endgame of LGBTQ ideology is making sodomy mandatory for all males. How can you justify not sucking cock and taking it in the ass without admitting that you are a homophobe? And if you are a homophobe, then you deserve to suck cock and take it in the ass against your will. So in the America of the near future, one way or another you are sucking cock and taking it in the ass.
And if you think this is an exaggeration, then you don’t understand the LGBTQ agenda and liberalism in general. Their ideology is self-described as “progressive”. Cancer is “progressive” in the same way, meaning it never stops getting worse until it destroys its host or is itself destroyed by countermeasures.