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From Tablet:
In Israel, female politicians, models, and celebrities are pressured to straighten their hair. But a curly haired rebellion is taking root.
By Flora Tsapovsky
December 2, 2019 • 12:00 AMWalk down the streets of Tel Aviv or Haifa, and you’ll see many women with naturally curly hair. But turn on Israeli TV news, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a female anchor who hasn’t pressed her hair flat. And this isn’t just a trend among news anchors. In Israel, female politicians, entrepreneurs, and celebrities who step into the limelight are soon found featuring straight, shiny locks, no matter their hair’s original texture.
It’s not fashion, it’s oppression.
Male politicians and celebrities with curly hair exist in Israel, but since they tend to keep their hair short, it’s been less of an issue; women, who more often keep their hair long, are in the eye of this cultural storm. But recently, there’s been a cultural uprising brewing, as curls take center stage in the national conversation.
… Last spring, on March 3 (3/3 reminds her of the shape of curls, Paz says) the group celebrated the second National Curls Day, a holiday Paz invented to bring awareness to her cause. The event included women’s empowerment circles, concerts by curly haired performers, workshops by hairdressers, and a marketplace. … Paz points to the fact that the natural hair movement is not unique to Israel. “In the U.S. I see the movement primarily among women of color, who take pride in their heritage and talk about the complex history around hair,” she said. “In Israel, the problem is that hair types vary significantly, and no one is leading a single discussion.”
As a curly haired blonde myself …
I just wanted to mention that fact.
I felt it was important that you know about my personal hair.
I’m an oppressed curly.
But I’m also a blonde.
Or
“Walk down the streets of New York or LA, and you’ll see many men with naturally long unkempt hair. But turn on TV news, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a male anchor who hasn’t cut his hair short. Oppression!
I mean, just once I want an anchor with a giant, unwashed head of dreads.
I love how clueless she is. Curly hair isn’t an issue for men because the always cut it short. By her logic men compelled to shear their own natural locks to conform to gender expectations should be just as equally victims of gender role conformity.
To be honest, men ought to be in agreement on this. But no, it's the usual knee-jerk protest, right on cue.
Look, most women don't have paid hairdressers to blow their hair out every day. Besides, all that heat is very damaging to the hair. Do you really want women walking around with fried, frizzy hair?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Joe Schmoe
Let your Jew Fro freak flag fly free.
I wonder what these fools would say about 80s fashion then
Advanced autism, contagious perhaps
We were all getting perms.
Heck, Asians still are!
Lols! Great question! Who should we ask first?
Diana?
https://wwetvdiva.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/diana-ross-afro.jpg
Billy?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Billy_Preston.jpg/220px-Billy_Preston.jpg
Or sweet old Bob?
https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTI1NDg4NTg2MDAxODA1Mjgy/bob-ross-promojpg.jpgReplies: @PiltdownMan
Classic: You want what you can't or don't have. Humans: the same everywhere for eons.Replies: @Clyde
From my observations of one ultra orthodox Jewish town: Haredi women wear either wigs or scarves after they are married. Although there are naturally blond 17 year old girls, there are no blond wigs on 20 year old married women. Probably way too goyish. There really is a politics of hair.
I don't know what town your experience is based on , but over all blond wigs ,especially on the high end custom side, are around as common as blond hair in the haredi community.
See freeda website (perhaps the largest wig importer in Brooklyn)
https://www.freeda.com/shop-custom-wigs.htmlReplies: @Clyde
Glad to see someone taking up for us. The less we do to our hair, the better it looks.
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.
Lol! Female solipsism sighted.Replies: @Rosie
” in the eye of this cultural storm.”
And that’s what the war-mongering land thieves find worthy of discussion?
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
There are days when Corvinus is clearly stumbling but Rosie is always in character.
Constant R, always at baseline.
Taking root…get it?
Didn’t they already invent something for this problem?
"Walk down the streets of New York or LA, and you’ll see many men with naturally long unkempt hair. But turn on TV news, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a male anchor who hasn’t cut his hair short. Oppression!
I mean, just once I want an anchor with a giant, unwashed head of dreads.
I love how clueless she is. Curly hair isn't an issue for men because the always cut it short. By her logic men compelled to shear their own natural locks to conform to gender expectations should be just as equally victims of gender role conformity.Replies: @guest, @Rosie
Don’t let’s open that can of worms. We might soon discover women are actually the privileged sex.
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
But then people call you Goldilocks all day and ask where the other Brady kids are.
Off-topic,
Lindelof discusses WATCHMEN:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/watchmen-season-1-episode-7-an-almost-religious-awe-explained-1258567
So, in Lindelof’s world, White=power…..
It’s easy when you’re just being yourself!
"Walk down the streets of New York or LA, and you’ll see many men with naturally long unkempt hair. But turn on TV news, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a male anchor who hasn’t cut his hair short. Oppression!
I mean, just once I want an anchor with a giant, unwashed head of dreads.
I love how clueless she is. Curly hair isn't an issue for men because the always cut it short. By her logic men compelled to shear their own natural locks to conform to gender expectations should be just as equally victims of gender role conformity.Replies: @guest, @Rosie
But the implicit demand isn’t gender conformity. It’s a demand to have a different kind of hair.
To be honest, men ought to be in agreement on this. But no, it’s the usual knee-jerk protest, right on cue.
Look, most women don’t have paid hairdressers to blow their hair out every day. Besides, all that heat is very damaging to the hair. Do you really want women walking around with fried, frizzy hair?
But, fwiw, gender conformity is real and good. Someone "wanting different hair" is typically gender-conforming--she wants to look more feminine, he more masculine.You keep going back to the particulars of hair care. We don't care. Find something more suited to your female brain than this too masculine site.Or, great trolling, Dude!Replies: @Rosie, @Stan d Mute
there are plenty of nice hairstyles for straight, wavy or curly hair.
the hair drama is just among entitled princesses.
normal women just fix their hair and move on.
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Sailer’s Law of Female Journalists spawns Sailer’s Law of Female Reader’s Comments.
Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism strikes again.
To be honest, men ought to be in agreement on this. But no, it's the usual knee-jerk protest, right on cue.
Look, most women don't have paid hairdressers to blow their hair out every day. Besides, all that heat is very damaging to the hair. Do you really want women walking around with fried, frizzy hair?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Joe Schmoe
We all know it isn’t really about conforming to gender roles (that is, the author doesn’t really care). I have to use the language to deal with the fallacy.
But, fwiw, gender conformity is real and good. Someone “wanting different hair” is typically gender-conforming–she wants to look more feminine, he more masculine.
You keep going back to the particulars of hair care. We don’t care. Find something more suited to your female brain than this too masculine site.
Or, great trolling, Dude!
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don't?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anon
I say let Sean Connery sort it out:
https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38
Just slap those curls into submission!Replies: @Rosie, @Reg Cæsar
Curly (not kinky) black or dark-brown hair, is just about the most appealing physical trait a woman can have, as far as I’m concerned.
But, fwiw, gender conformity is real and good. Someone "wanting different hair" is typically gender-conforming--she wants to look more feminine, he more masculine.You keep going back to the particulars of hair care. We don't care. Find something more suited to your female brain than this too masculine site.Or, great trolling, Dude!Replies: @Rosie, @Stan d Mute
Then why all the posts about hair?
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don’t?
Bingo! Little lady, you are a fast learner.
Steve's just noticing that serious news sources are now spending more time on women's hair than before, and often couching these very, very serious articles about hair in vaguely moralistic tones. It's funny. It's as if Plato devoted a chapter in The Republic to the hair of women, strange and oddly funny.
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don’t?
Lol! Feminist projection sighted!Replies: @Rosie
Is she a Rebekah?
Rosie is trying to turn this into a blog about her hair. She blames Steve. Methinks circuitous logic comes naturally to those with kinky hair.
Rosie's gotta feel like the guys who started World War One about now.Replies: @Rosie
There are far more interesting Israeli topics.
Like Gal Gadot’s immaculate body.
http://www.rmoljabar.com/images/berita/2017/08/431924_07060223082017_Gal_Gadot.jpgReplies: @Jane Plain
https://jewishbusinessnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Gal-Gadot-Keeping-Up-With-The-Joneses.jpg
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
You’re a blonde? Interesting…
But, fwiw, gender conformity is real and good. Someone "wanting different hair" is typically gender-conforming--she wants to look more feminine, he more masculine.You keep going back to the particulars of hair care. We don't care. Find something more suited to your female brain than this too masculine site.Or, great trolling, Dude!Replies: @Rosie, @Stan d Mute
Some say is just @Whiskey trolling us.
I say let Sean Connery sort it out:
Just slap those curls into submission!
For the children...Replies: @Herbert West
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Glad to see someone taking up for us. The less we do to our hair, the better it looks.
Lol! Female solipsism sighted.
Maybe Santa Claus will bring you a dictionary for Christmas this year.
In any event, men get awfully defensive anytime a woman questions beauty standards. It's as though this particular social phenomenon is uniquely infallible, and should never be subject to any criticism
Again, I find this strange, because sometimes beauty standards really are counterproductive.
Suppose you go to all that trouble to blow your hair out. What are the chances that you're going to go to the gym the next day?
Answer: nil.
This us a huge problem for black women, obviously, but White curlies have the same issue.Replies: @anon
So the authoress is an Aryan Jew?
From my observations of one ultra orthodox Jewish town: Haredi women wear either wigs or scarves after they are married. Although there are naturally blond 17 year old girls, there are no blond wigs on 20 year old married women. Probably way too goyish. There really is a politics of hair.
I don’t know what town your experience is based on , but over all blond wigs ,especially on the high end custom side, are around as common as blond hair in the haredi community.
See freeda website (perhaps the largest wig importer in Brooklyn)
https://www.freeda.com/shop-custom-wigs.html
Advanced autism, contagious perhapsReplies: @Joe Schmoe, @anon, @Forbes
Exactly!
We were all getting perms.
Heck, Asians still are!
Lol! Female solipsism sighted.Replies: @Rosie
Good grief!
Maybe Santa Claus will bring you a dictionary for Christmas this year.
In any event, men get awfully defensive anytime a woman questions beauty standards. It’s as though this particular social phenomenon is uniquely infallible, and should never be subject to any criticism
Again, I find this strange, because sometimes beauty standards really are counterproductive.
Suppose you go to all that trouble to blow your hair out. What are the chances that you’re going to go to the gym the next day?
Answer: nil.
This us a huge problem for black women, obviously, but White curlies have the same issue.
Lol. Moar solipsism! Me want moar! Because men care sooooo much about this stuff.
Here's a poster just for you. You can print and put in a frame next to your affirmations and take a picture of them all and share it on Facebook and Pinterest.
http://rlv.zcache.com.au/its_all_about_me_fun_princess_poster-rc39a11e4066d4410ae5a7f5de7896211_knyv_8byvr_512.jpgReplies: @Rosie
Hair O-press-ion … What about rhin-O-pression? Are G-d given noses making a comeback?
I say let Sean Connery sort it out:
https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38
Just slap those curls into submission!Replies: @Rosie, @Reg Cæsar
Please. I’m way smarter than that unimaginative dimwit.
To be honest, men ought to be in agreement on this. But no, it's the usual knee-jerk protest, right on cue.
Look, most women don't have paid hairdressers to blow their hair out every day. Besides, all that heat is very damaging to the hair. Do you really want women walking around with fried, frizzy hair?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Joe Schmoe
no one cares
there are plenty of nice hairstyles for straight, wavy or curly hair.
the hair drama is just among entitled princesses.
normal women just fix their hair and move on.
Many nose jobs?
I’ve been in Israel several times — the Haredim wear blonde wigs, almost exclusively. Straight blonde hair seems to be their ideal.
Flora Tsapovsky looks like a pretty woman’s ugly sister.
In related news Netanyahu Trump discussing a “US-Israel defense treaty”
https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-trump-call-west-bank-annexation-jordan-4dac3f23-cf85-492f-b9bf-4c592984e606.html
INSANE. Trump is such a puppet. Biggest weakest lamest puppet we’ve had as potus yet.
Note that treaty is deliberately not being called a “mutual defense treaty” of course.
Trump — the master negotiator — keeps giving Israel giant gifts for free.
Are they blackmailing him or is he just that much of a fraud?
I believe I read somewhere that a pretty high % of israeli female models are natural blondes. Seems strange to me since I have always found jewish women attractive so I don’t get the desire for women who don’t look jewish. They are a less pretty version of italian women, but with bigger boobs.
The author is an idiot.
Not even fake news. Just trash.Replies: @Dmitry, @The Wild Geese Howard
Advanced autism, contagious perhapsReplies: @Joe Schmoe, @anon, @Forbes
I wonder what these fools would say about 80s fashion then
Lols! Great question! Who should we ask first?
Diana?
Billy?
Or sweet old Bob?
It was inevitable when we allowed women to vote and work that eventually the most important political and cultural issue would become “my hair”.
Quite right. It sounds like you agree with Ms. Tsakovsky.
Shampoo, condition, apply hair goo, comb, go.Replies: @J.Ross, @guest, @Dennis Dale, @Father O'Hara, @anon, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Just don’t rub your hands on a balloon and shuffle your feet on the carpet at the same time. I’m not sure what would happen, but it can’t be good.
Another place you might want to check is Jewish Feminist website Hey Alma, where one of the the topics listed under trending is “Hair”, along with dating, pop culture and Israel Guide.
https://www.heyalma.com/tag/hair
So where did that come from anyway? Is it the Italian genes or the Arab genes? I’ve never been to either place so I haven’t seen enough women of either group to say.
So cut your hair short. Issue solved.
Sez you. You aren’t even smarter than anyone in this blog.
One of the most drop-dead gorgeous women I ever met was a Palestinian Christian who was married to a nerdy white guy. Her most exotic feature was some strange skin pigmentation in the neck area, almost reminiscent of a Star Trek trill.
https://menhairstylesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/09.-jonah-hill-crop.jpgReplies: @Larry, San Francisco, @SunBakedSuburb
I used to have hair like that. A woman picked me up in a bar once because she loved it.
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don't?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anon
The posts aren’t about hair dummy
No one cares
https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-trump-call-west-bank-annexation-jordan-4dac3f23-cf85-492f-b9bf-4c592984e606.html
INSANE. Trump is such a puppet. Biggest weakest lamest puppet we've had as potus yet.
Note that treaty is deliberately not being called a "mutual defense treaty" of course.
Trump -- the master negotiator -- keeps giving Israel giant gifts for free.
Are they blackmailing him or is he just that much of a fraud?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright
We could use their wall-construction expertise. That’s our biggest defense hole.
I say let Sean Connery sort it out:
https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38
Just slap those curls into submission!Replies: @Rosie, @Reg Cæsar
The man who helped his country outlaw an Olympic sport because “if it saves one life…”
For the children…
But is it thick, lustrous hair?
‘Within cells interlinked.”
Constant R, always at baseline.
Fashions are being recycled these days – stick straight, parted-down-the-center long hair was big in the 70s, when I was a kid. Maybe Tsapovsky is trying to hasten the comeback of 80’s permed, big hair, much like high waisted jeans are back now.
I’ve got to say, the author of this article has Walmart-tier hair. It’s one thing not to straighten your curls to give in to current fashion but every image I pulled up of her looked like she doesn’t own a comb and cuts her own hair. The influencers she cites have gorgeous curly hair but those women obviously visit a salon and put effort into having decent, professional-looking hair. There are so many great products out these days there is no reason Tsapovsky’s hair should look so terrible.
They also have their draft exemption to protect. Chivalry, Haredi-style:
“Better to die” is apparently catchier in French.
‘Rosie is trying to turn this into a blog about her hair…’
Rosie’s gotta feel like the guys who started World War One about now.
https://www.axios.com/netanyahu-trump-call-west-bank-annexation-jordan-4dac3f23-cf85-492f-b9bf-4c592984e606.html
INSANE. Trump is such a puppet. Biggest weakest lamest puppet we've had as potus yet.
Note that treaty is deliberately not being called a "mutual defense treaty" of course.
Trump -- the master negotiator -- keeps giving Israel giant gifts for free.
Are they blackmailing him or is he just that much of a fraud?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright
‘Trump — the master negotiator — keeps giving Israel giant gifts for free.
Are they blackmailing him or is he just that much of a fraud?’
Hey. Adelson paid him twenty five million. Be thankful the war with Iran hasn’t started yet.
Lols! Great question! Who should we ask first?
Diana?
https://wwetvdiva.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/diana-ross-afro.jpg
Billy?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Billy_Preston.jpg/220px-Billy_Preston.jpg
Or sweet old Bob?
https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTI1NDg4NTg2MDAxODA1Mjgy/bob-ross-promojpg.jpgReplies: @PiltdownMan
Afros and Jewfros were a ’70s thing (though Bob Ross wasn’t Jewish.)
Big hair was an ’80s phenomenon that was easier for white women to accomplish, and men who were new wave musicians.
https://www.vintag.es/2018/12/80s-big-hair.html
Maybe Santa Claus will bring you a dictionary for Christmas this year.
In any event, men get awfully defensive anytime a woman questions beauty standards. It's as though this particular social phenomenon is uniquely infallible, and should never be subject to any criticism
Again, I find this strange, because sometimes beauty standards really are counterproductive.
Suppose you go to all that trouble to blow your hair out. What are the chances that you're going to go to the gym the next day?
Answer: nil.
This us a huge problem for black women, obviously, but White curlies have the same issue.Replies: @anon
In any event, men get awfully defensive anytime a woman questions beauty standards.
Lol. Moar solipsism! Me want moar! Because men care sooooo much about this stuff.
Here’s a poster just for you. You can print and put in a frame next to your affirmations and take a picture of them all and share it on Facebook and Pinterest.
All well and good until they peel their Lizard skin off, kill you, then implant larvae on your corpse.
These days, clothing has somewhat lost its signaling value as it’s nigh impossible to tell quality counterfeit from the “real” thing. (Until AI comes to the rescue some day.)
Hence, conspicuous consumption shifting into hair.
This reminds me of Frieda, from Peanuts:
Actually, all women remind me of Frieda. 😉
Didn't they already invent something for this problem?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/48/ff/a148ff09be40d3b64ed176fe2f71249f.jpgReplies: @The Alarmist
Why send a head-scarve to do the job of a burka?
Like Gal Gadot's immaculate body.Replies: @The Alarmist, @guest
You forgot the gratuitous pic:
In Israel she was stick thin.
Legz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24WGv5VpWUReplies: @Bardon Kaldian
I wonder if Steve gets the irony of his boomer obsession with golf courses and all his posts about his theories on their construction. Various groups have their obsessions, just don’t read it if you don’t care about that topic.
Wasn’t that hard at all…
https://images.haarets.co.il/image/upload/w_2200,h_1277,x_0,y_20,c_crop,g_north_west/w_640,h_370,q_auto,c_fill,f_auto/fl_any_format.preserve_transparency.progressive:none/v1532325176/1.6295905.2543439166.jpghttps://static.atmag.co.il/www/uploads/2019/11/roni_daloomi-2000x1125-1574934230.jpg
https://musicaisraeli.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hagit-yaso.png?w=870&h=625&crop=1Replies: @Dmitry
lol this is completely not an actual thing.
For the children...Replies: @Herbert West
Which one?
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/sports/olympics/handgun-ban-after-1996-mass-shooting-hampers-british-olympian-georgina-geikie.html
“I’m an oppressed curly.
But I’m also a blonde.”
So then, does that make the writer a Becky?
I don't know what town your experience is based on , but over all blond wigs ,especially on the high end custom side, are around as common as blond hair in the haredi community.
See freeda website (perhaps the largest wig importer in Brooklyn)
https://www.freeda.com/shop-custom-wigs.htmlReplies: @Clyde
If you are going to spend big money ($500?) you might as well go blond, plus it might excite her husband more. I am going to guess they accumulate more than one wig with different shades, colors.
Not really, women try to keep pretty close to their natural hair color in general. As they age they often go lighter with wig color because lighter looks better in your fifties,or so my wife says.
https://youtu.be/hl-VQ5bA_4EReplies: @Clyde, @Dmitry
FWI She looks like she has naturally wavy brown hair, dyed it blond. So now she has wavy blond hair, that I would not call curly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0pPPkkT7GI
But maybe I was just distracted by the manic signing in the lower left corner.Replies: @Clyde
Rosie's gotta feel like the guys who started World War One about now.Replies: @Rosie
Hmmm. I’m pretty sure I didn’t start this.
Heaven forbid I suggest that any fashion trend or beauty standard might be unhealthy, frivolous, or impractical, but making implicit threats like this against women and all I hear are crickets chirping.
Here are your fetishes:
She looks Middle Eastern, but…
The two Israeli models she mentions, Shlomit Malka and Daniel Greenberg (yes, it’s Daniel), have straight, dark hair. They also look like twins. They are both exceptionally good-looking.
The author is an idiot.
Not even fake news. Just trash.
https://www.instagram.com/dorit_revelis.- She also misses stating the interesting cultural difference of Israel, compared to other countries - which is that in Israel, physical appearance is considered less important. It's considered acceptable to walk in the street wearing pajamas, and you can wear dirty shoes. (Israel's attitude to aesthetics is the opposite of Italy)Israeli culture is still closer to a simple peasant culture, and it de-emphasizes physical appearances and aesthetics. Women immigrants to Israel (at least from CIS countries) - are commonly talking online about how they are happy that the culture cares less about physical appearance, and they don't have to worry so much about their clothes, or too much time on makeup in the morning, etc.
Terrific figure, but I find her liver lips and bug eyes pretty meh.
Yeah, but she looks as if she was a blonde kid. The color suits her.
But maybe I was just distracted by the manic signing in the lower left corner.
Naturally black hair and blue eyes beat blond.Replies: @Pheasant, @Jane Plain
http://www.rmoljabar.com/images/berita/2017/08/431924_07060223082017_Gal_Gadot.jpgReplies: @Jane Plain
Gal is perhaps the only woman to gain weight to make it in Hollywood.
In Israel she was stick thin.
Legz:
I am going to guess they accumulate more than one wig with different shades, colors.
Not really, women try to keep pretty close to their natural hair color in general. As they age they often go lighter with wig color because lighter looks better in your fifties,or so my wife says.
Steve is so 70’s. He probably surreptitiously listens to the Grateful Dead & watches those godawful 70’s/80’s movies like The Warriors or Caddyshack.
Any man who does not appreciate long flowing beautiful hair on a woman is likely a CIA or FBI agent sent to infiltrate the Unz website. Choose your words carefully. Many of you have already blown your cover.
Is a homersexual.
I see Lisa Page (whose mom is Iranian) severely straightened her hair in preparation for “breaking her silence”
‘Rosie’s gotta feel like the guys who started World War One about now.’
‘Hmmm. I’m pretty sure I didn’t start this.’
Lol. That’s what they said.
Clearly, some will never stop look for reasons to dismiss women as frivolous and shallow, which is really what this whole thread is all about.
The irony is that the original article was a plea for women to accept themselves as they are and reject media messages that tell them they have to spend hours in front of the mirror to be attractive.
Again, I fail to see anything in the least bit objectionable about this. I notice noone is even trying to address her actual argument. Rather, they are just claiming that the subject is absurd and shouldn't even be discusse. This is incomprehensible to me. I was accused of being a "solipsist" above, but I would submit that anyone who suggests that women shouldn't be heard about matters that absorb ridiculous amounts of their time and energy is thoughtless of others.Replies: @Colin Wright
“Humina, humina, is that a blonde wig under that sheet?”
It’s funny seeing white women trying to get membership in the coalition of the oppressed by bragging about their hair. I don’t think it’s going to work.
https://menhairstylesworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/09.-jonah-hill-crop.jpgReplies: @Larry, San Francisco, @SunBakedSuburb
That’s the face behind the deli counter. I forgot the name of this no-talent porcine creature, but he’s proof Jewish control of showbiz is still ongoing. The homersexuals are on the march, however. Their reign is nigh. And then there are the socially-promoted black ladies in executive positions (speaking of hair).
“Any man who does not appreciate long flowing beautiful hair on a woman …”
Is a homersexual.
Keep it up, smart aleck. This is a SteveSailerSimulation. He can delete you “at whim.”
LOOK AT ME!! ME TOO!!!! ME TOO!!!!!
In Israel she was stick thin.
Legz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24WGv5VpWUReplies: @Bardon Kaldian
She looks like a product of the Buchenwald diet.
Also, I’m pretty sure amazon just got criticized for selling auschwitz themed Christmas ornaments. https://time.com/5742419/amazon-removes-auschwitz-holocaust-christmas-ornaments/
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don't?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anon
“Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don’t?”
Bingo! Little lady, you are a fast learner.
The last one has a very impressive neck, you must admit. I think some birds are in envy.
She was writing about stereotypical looks: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-are-you-looking-at-a-jewish-face-whatever-that-means-is-more-complicated-than-you-think-8375907.html
Non starter.
Israel is fortunate in that the Jewish elite there–unlike here–is loyal to their nation.
So while here in America, this sort of nonsense gets played up as it dovetails with the great minoritarian wrecking project, there it’s just some standard issue female whining with zero traction.
This makes me sad, Colin. I though we’d reached that point in our relationship where a casual remark meant in good humor would be understood as such.
Clearly, some will never stop look for reasons to dismiss women as frivolous and shallow, which is really what this whole thread is all about.
The irony is that the original article was a plea for women to accept themselves as they are and reject media messages that tell them they have to spend hours in front of the mirror to be attractive.
Again, I fail to see anything in the least bit objectionable about this. I notice noone is even trying to address her actual argument. Rather, they are just claiming that the subject is absurd and shouldn’t even be discusse. This is incomprehensible to me. I was accused of being a “solipsist” above, but I would submit that anyone who suggests that women shouldn’t be heard about matters that absorb ridiculous amounts of their time and energy is thoughtless of others.
Lol. Moar solipsism! Me want moar! Because men care sooooo much about this stuff.
Here's a poster just for you. You can print and put in a frame next to your affirmations and take a picture of them all and share it on Facebook and Pinterest.
http://rlv.zcache.com.au/its_all_about_me_fun_princess_poster-rc39a11e4066d4410ae5a7f5de7896211_knyv_8byvr_512.jpgReplies: @Rosie
Men are obsessed with women’s appearance. Normally, they are willing to admit this.
It’s funny seeing white women trying to get membership in the coalition of the oppressed by bragging about their hair.
Uh, white women have been members of the oppressed class since the 60’s Civil Rights Act enshrined them as such. They just enjoy humblebragging about their hair, that’s all. Well, and in the case of old lady feminists, demanding that everyone else pay attention right now to whatever it is they are whining about.
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don't?Replies: @Dennis Dale, @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anon
Then why all the posts about hair?
Steve’s just noticing that serious news sources are now spending more time on women’s hair than before, and often couching these very, very serious articles about hair in vaguely moralistic tones. It’s funny. It’s as if Plato devoted a chapter in The Republic to the hair of women, strange and oddly funny.
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don’t?
Lol! Feminist projection sighted!
It would indeed be strange to devote a whole chapter to hair, but it would certainly not be strange for him to consider the moral status of a person who spends hours a day attempting to conform to beauty standards.
One can ask all sorts of interesting questions about that, to wit:
What does it say about that person's concept of the value of a human being?
Don't they have anything more constructive or edifying to do?
Whom are they trying to impress and for what purpose?
There absolutely is an ethics of personal appearance. Nobody denies this when we're talking about sloth, gluttony, and weight gain, but for some reason, anytime a woman suggests that an excessive preoccupation with vanity at the other extreme is unhealthy and/or unvirtuous, it's frivolous or stupid, or something.
What did Aristotle say about virtue?
Welcome to Arab world……pfffff
Gotta love that passive voice. Pressured by whom?
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/14/149685/4533856-becausepatriarchy.jpg
https://youtu.be/hl-VQ5bA_4EReplies: @Clyde, @Dmitry
Journalists often seem to write a complete inversion of the truth.
Curly hair is overrepresented in Israeli media, relative to population. I think less than 15% of people living in Israel have curly hair.
Yet, for example, the most famous Israeli women singers usually naturally have curly hair (I wonder if people here recognize these singers).
Clearly, some will never stop look for reasons to dismiss women as frivolous and shallow, which is really what this whole thread is all about.
The irony is that the original article was a plea for women to accept themselves as they are and reject media messages that tell them they have to spend hours in front of the mirror to be attractive.
Again, I fail to see anything in the least bit objectionable about this. I notice noone is even trying to address her actual argument. Rather, they are just claiming that the subject is absurd and shouldn't even be discusse. This is incomprehensible to me. I was accused of being a "solipsist" above, but I would submit that anyone who suggests that women shouldn't be heard about matters that absorb ridiculous amounts of their time and energy is thoughtless of others.Replies: @Colin Wright
‘… I was accused of being a “solipsist” above, but I would submit that anyone who suggests that women shouldn’t be heard about matters that absorb ridiculous amounts of their time and energy is thoughtless of others.’
I can’t resist. Are we talking about your hair?
https://images.haarets.co.il/image/upload/w_2200,h_1277,x_0,y_20,c_crop,g_north_west/w_640,h_370,q_auto,c_fill,f_auto/fl_any_format.preserve_transparency.progressive:none/v1532325176/1.6295905.2543439166.jpghttps://static.atmag.co.il/www/uploads/2019/11/roni_daloomi-2000x1125-1574934230.jpg
https://musicaisraeli.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hagit-yaso.png?w=870&h=625&crop=1Replies: @Dmitry
I’m not sure there is another country in the world, where women who have hair cuts as bad as this singer, and lack of attention to their physical appearance, are famous celebrities with paparazzi following them.
The author is an idiot.
Not even fake news. Just trash.Replies: @Dmitry, @The Wild Geese Howard
She finds that curly people are overrepresented, and lists all these curly hair celebrities and models in Israel, and then tries to argue this shows the opposite (they are “challenging the media”). Probably, Israeli media overrepresents curly hair models because they can probably sell more hair products. E.g. another curly model
https://www.instagram.com/dorit_revelis.
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She also misses stating the interesting cultural difference of Israel, compared to other countries – which is that in Israel, physical appearance is considered less important. It’s considered acceptable to walk in the street wearing pajamas, and you can wear dirty shoes. (Israel’s attitude to aesthetics is the opposite of Italy)
Israeli culture is still closer to a simple peasant culture, and it de-emphasizes physical appearances and aesthetics.
Women immigrants to Israel (at least from CIS countries) – are commonly talking online about how they are happy that the culture cares less about physical appearance, and they don’t have to worry so much about their clothes, or too much time on makeup in the morning, etc.
The author is an idiot.
Not even fake news. Just trash.Replies: @Dmitry, @The Wild Geese Howard
I checked out Shlomit Malka’s instagram for research purposes.
Terrific figure, but I find her liver lips and bug eyes pretty meh.
Israeli culture is still closer to a simple peasant culture, and it de-emphasizes physical appearances and aesthetics
Yitzhak Rabin’s son showed up to his state funeral in jeans and a t shirt. He was a forty year old man at the time.
I am one generation removed from very poor subsitence farmers and everyone had a sunday best and no one turned up to funerals looking like a slob.
What an idiot.
A few men are obsessed with women, a smaller set is obsessed with women’s appearence. Men prefer women who are attractive. For most men, it’s not an obsession, it’s a preference. If obsession with a woman’s appearence has a natural home, it’s in the mind of herself.
Gotta love that passive voice. Pressured by whom?
Advanced autism, contagious perhapsReplies: @Joe Schmoe, @anon, @Forbes
My mother reported–Depression era–that girls with straight hair all wanted curly hair, and girls with curly hair all wanted straight hair.
Classic: You want what you can’t or don’t have. Humans: the same everywhere for eons.
And that's what the war-mongering land thieves find worthy of discussion?Replies: @obvious
in other words you live in a delusional fantasy world
But maybe I was just distracted by the manic signing in the lower left corner.Replies: @Clyde
Yes the color suits her nicely. But so often women should stay with their original hair color and not go blond. Going blond does not suit them, their skin tone etc. It is a lot bolder to be beautiful with dark hair and brown hair. Get into above average physical shape, vitality and mentality and you will be there and ahead of blonds (real or dyed) that indulge themselves too much and bathe in superficial compliments and attractions from men.
Naturally black hair and blue eyes beat blond.
Yup the contrast is amazing.Replies: @Clyde
Liz Taylor, Jean Simmons... a striking combination.
Classic: You want what you can't or don't have. Humans: the same everywhere for eons.Replies: @Clyde
There is a Rolling Stones tune about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxro_JPV4sQ
I figured you would use the word shiksa but you restrained yourself. And don’t you have an excess of blonds in Sweden. That you could at least donate some to Israel to keep them away from your newly arrived Mohammedans? We get the Central American Indians flooding in the last two years and you get the Muslims.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1824752/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
It goes back farther than that:
I care.
The one Georgina Geikie had to go abroad to train fore:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/sports/olympics/handgun-ban-after-1996-mass-shooting-hampers-british-olympian-georgina-geikie.html
Yitzhak Rabin's son showed up to his state funeral in jeans and a t shirt. He was a forty year old man at the time.Replies: @Pheasant
‘Peasant culture’
I am one generation removed from very poor subsitence farmers and everyone had a sunday best and no one turned up to funerals looking like a slob.
What an idiot.
Naturally black hair and blue eyes beat blond.Replies: @Pheasant, @Jane Plain
‘Naturally black hair and blue eyes beat blond.’
Yup the contrast is amazing.
The only native finished 37th out of 39:
https://www.olympic.org/london-2012/shooting/25m-pistol-3030-shots-women
Thanks to minimal support from her countrymen:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/472170/olympic-dream-being-shot-to-bits/
“Gorgs” is my kinda barmaid. File this with the Jamaican bobsled guys under oxymorons:
Are you sure about the Iranian part? I never heard this. This makes her an outsider-outlier. Her body is not revealed in photos but her horsey face is cute when she doesn’t bare her gums and horse size teeth. She is a tight little number. Scrub the little part. She is tall, at least 5-9, which is part of her problem. Taller women often think they will push their weight around. Lisa sure did this in her Russian Collusion scam history and texting histrionics with luv Peter Strzok, and still has no remorse. Why should she remorse when cultural leftism parasitism with huge Federal paychecks is ascendant in the greater DC Federal region. Our Donald Trump is our number one resistor to this trend, while most all DC elected Republicans (Senate-House) punk out. Opt out as they only talk-respond to donors. Why? As always follow the money.
If an authoress (as opposed to an author), then surely she would be a Jewess (as opposed to a Jew).
Yup the contrast is amazing.Replies: @Clyde
They have me in held and are mystifying in the way blond is not.
Devout Jews got along quite well with Arabs in the Holy Land before the Zionist usurpers of the name Israel began their aggression (in defiance of a near-unanimous rabbinical consensus).
The term “Ultra-Orthodox” is predicated upon the tendentious assumption that those who are known as Modern-Orthodox represent the normative standard of Judaic Orthodoxy. This is analgous to the prevailing characterizations of those who favor restricting immigration as “far”, “extreme” or “ultra” right-wing.)
As a compromise of sorts, we do have a reality show about Swedish women who married into Hollywood, “Svenska Hollywoodfruar”.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1824752/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
Because neither of them was in charge. People always leave out that point.
So if you want a return to the halcyon days of which you speak, give the place back to the British, the French, the League of Nations, the Ottoman Empire, the Crusader states, the Byzantines, the Romans…
Anyone but Arabs or Jews.
No. I ran fresh out of f**** to give about that many years ago. It’s younger gals I worry about.
Steve's just noticing that serious news sources are now spending more time on women's hair than before, and often couching these very, very serious articles about hair in vaguely moralistic tones. It's funny. It's as if Plato devoted a chapter in The Republic to the hair of women, strange and oddly funny.
Or is this another one of those situations where men get to have an opinion about something, but women don’t?
Lol! Feminist projection sighted!Replies: @Rosie
So what?
It would indeed be strange to devote a whole chapter to hair, but it would certainly not be strange for him to consider the moral status of a person who spends hours a day attempting to conform to beauty standards.
One can ask all sorts of interesting questions about that, to wit:
What does it say about that person’s concept of the value of a human being?
Don’t they have anything more constructive or edifying to do?
Whom are they trying to impress and for what purpose?
There absolutely is an ethics of personal appearance. Nobody denies this when we’re talking about sloth, gluttony, and weight gain, but for some reason, anytime a woman suggests that an excessive preoccupation with vanity at the other extreme is unhealthy and/or unvirtuous, it’s frivolous or stupid, or something.
What did Aristotle say about virtue?
Naturally black hair and blue eyes beat blond.Replies: @Pheasant, @Jane Plain
I agree.
Liz Taylor, Jean Simmons… a striking combination.
The Internet, which is sometimes right, and sometimes not, says that Lisa Page’s mum is Tamara Najarian. The surname is Armenian. There is indeed an Armenian minority in Iran.
Like Gal Gadot's immaculate body.Replies: @The Alarmist, @guest
It is an enviable body…if you’re a 16 year-old boy:
https://www.olympic.org/london-2012/shooting/25m-pistol-3030-shots-women
Thanks to minimal support from her countrymen:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/472170/olympic-dream-being-shot-to-bits/
"Gorgs" is my kinda barmaid. File this with the Jamaican bobsled guys under oxymorons:
https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/1306692g/44676435/georgina-geikie-great-britains-number-one-pistol-shooter-london-britain-mar-2011-shutterstock-editorial-1306692g.jpgReplies: @guest
Why don’t they make them use regular guns instead of space guns?
Let’s see if you can puzzle out the difference between one guy and his blog versus a large swathe of mainstream journalists from various sources.
If anything, Steve's the supposed Karl Marx of the alt-right, he's the one who should stick to weightier topics. ;) As I said, I don't bedgrudge either indulging their obsessions, I just skip or skim over them.
You call this motley crew “mainstream,” a “Social Media Instructor” and freelance “Fashion, Food, Culture and Travel Writer + Editor?” Please, she’s barely hanging on at marginal outlets, just like all the other posters Steve highlights in this vein.
If anything, Steve’s the supposed Karl Marx of the alt-right, he’s the one who should stick to weightier topics. 😉 As I said, I don’t bedgrudge either indulging their obsessions, I just skip or skim over them.
There’s wavy and then there’s curly hair. Those two camps should not take a common side. There’s plenty of room for more drama.