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Mystery child tells Finnish PM: “I look big, but I’m 17.”

From the New York Times:

Migrant Children Arrive Alone and Settle In Uneasily

By KATRIN BENNHOLD 5:34 AM ET

Many of Europe’s new mystery children are boys ages 14 to 17, sent by families too poor to pay smugglers for more than one journey. Others were separated from their parents along the way.

Distinguishing Minors From Adults in Migrant Tide 5:35 AM ET
PASSAU, Germany — Newly arrived migrants were lining up at the train station in this border town for their first registration one recent evening. In a group of young Afghans traveling on their own, Matin, from Kabul, said he was 17 years old.

A police officer laughed. “Yes, you and all your friends are 17,” he said. “You know how often I hear that every day?”

One of the hardest challenges in processing unaccompanied teenage migrants is to determine whether they are still minors. Their legal situation changes radically on their 18th birthday.

Migrants under 18 are considered “children first and refugees second,” giving them the same rights as German children, said Johanna Karpenstein of B-UMF, a Berlin-based charity focused on unaccompanied minor refugees across Germany. That means where possible they are fast-tracked into youth housing, German lessons and schools. Perhaps the biggest prize: If they are granted asylum, their families are allowed to join them in Germany.

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  1. I saw one being interviewed on TV a few days ago. He said he was 19 but looked in his late 30’s. Who knew the Middle East aged you that quickly?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Mike Street Station


    Who knew the Middle East aged you that quickly?
     
    Take a look at most of those age 50 and over. Those people usually look pretty shot by then.
  2. Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

     

    Hardly.

    I've been trying for years here to get the point across that modern white people are insane. These are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    "Marriage equality" and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    Replies: @Some Economist, @John Derbyshire, @(((Owen)))

    , @jimB
    @whorefinder

    Homosexuals are also targets of the Muslim rape army tramping its way to Germany and Scandinavia. In the Middle East, sodomy is halal if you are the pitcher. Afghan men rape prepubescent boys pretty much at will. In Sweden, the first rape crisis center for men was recently opened coinciding with the explosion of the male Muslim immigrant population. Coincidence? I think not.

    , @carol
    @whorefinder

    To think how rich and famous gays like William S Burroughs and Leonard Bernstein used go abroad for their boys. Tangier, Mexico City...Now the boys come to them!

    Replies: @Rob McX

  3. Where’s the Pied Piper?

  4. It’s been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied “minors” per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can’t be refused entry, and as soon as they’re settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more “relatives” begins. Quite often, the “minor” may be 25 years old, and the “relatives” people who paid him large sums to pretend they’re his family.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Rob McX


    It’s been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied “minors” per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can’t be refused entry, and as soon as they’re settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more “relatives” begins. Quite often, the “minor” may be 25 years old, and the “relatives” people who paid him large sums to pretend they’re his family.
     
    DNA testing is needed for all legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Also biometric ID data gathered from immigrants (legal and illegal) and all who enter America on visas. You don't like it, then tough! Instead the PTB/NSA gathers as much information as possible on US citizens. The Feds are creating huge databases for medical records that get misused and leaked by authorized personnel of which (I will bet) there are some millions. Direct Federal employees and workers for Federal contractors.

    Its not just Muslims scamming high trust societies with fake children and fake relatives. Goes on all the time and its a great way for legal immigrants to make thousands of dollars. They are being paid for smuggling people in legally (unless caught) this way! Its not done out of the kindness of their hearts.
    Mexicans with those computerized one day border passes that allow them to enter here at any time. They legally cross in with other peoples children. Goes on all the time and they are get paid! Obviously!

    Replies: @notsaying

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Rob McX

    in general I wonder why no more people are coming right now. I have to admit that the way I understand the situation would be entirely true then right now not 2-3 million people would come to Germany per year but rather 30 million or 300 million.
    As I understand it the vast majority of the world population would rather like in a west european welfare state than in his or her home country.

  5. Is that picture of the same “17” year old we were discussing a few weeks ago or a reporter? YIKES. I would put him at LEAST at 35 y.o.

  6. Don’t be agephobic.

    Age is ‘fluid’.

    If a 37 yr old says he is 17, he is 17.

    Give him the courage award.

    Don’t you dare say this person is a man and not a baby.

    He is a baby. Insisting that he is a man is hateful and intolerant.

    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anon

    That lady shouldn't allow her baby to use power tools.

    She should put him on a diet too. This is child abuse, I tell you! Somebody should call Child Protective Servces, or whatever it's called.

    , @Abe
    @Anon


    Don’t you dare say this person is a man and not a baby
     
    World War B! Hah, I was going to suggest this to Steve like a year ago as the next frontier for SJW activism but didn't have any real examples to prove the Cathedral would get this crazy. Yes, it's darn-right intolerant and un-American to make people who are psychologically-incapable of bearing the burdens of adulthood be something they are not. "Grow-up" and "act your age" are hate speech! The only real question will therefore be one of the "diaper ceiling"- whether physiologically-developed "infants" still have certain... needs their caregivers are required to address now and then.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

     

    And to marry their imams.
  7. That dude is jacked.

    I know one thing.

    white girls will be in heaven if more guys like that come over!

  8. As I understand, you can determine age by a dental (bone?) examination. I wonder why they are not doing such inspections of young men who have “lost” their papers.

  9. This has been going on for a long time. Somehow, my mother and 3 of her siblings (all gone now) all registered themselves as having been born in 1915 when they came to the US. For the men I think it was to put themselves beyond draft age. I think the women wanted to be closer in age to their spouses. It’s a little note of bittersweet humor when I visit the cemetery and see 1915 on all their gravestones (and they were not quadruplets) . I used to think that it was because nobody kept birth records or they were all destroyed in the war, but this isn’t true – when I visited Poland they had the birth records in the archives perfectly intact going way back (the older ones were in Russian script).

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Jack D

    In Russia they used to let the klal pick the young men to be drafted. As long as the Jews met their quota the Tsar was cool. I expect they selected the indifferent yeshiva bochurs, layabouts and troublemakers. It was eugenic for the klal. But America was much more egalitarian: select by age.

    What I can't figure out was how the ultra-orthodox managed to dodge the draft during Korea and Vietnam. Surely they couldn't dummy up their birth records in the USA.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

  10. My favorite was the 13 year old in one of the Scandinavian countries with gray hair and extensive crows feet who was at a middle school.

  11. After Muhammad had preached publicly for more than a decade, the opposition to him reached such a high pitch that, fearful for their safety, he sent some of his adherents to Ethiopia, where the Christian ruler extended protection to them, the memory of which has been cherished by Muslims ever since. But in Mecca the persecution worsened. Muhammad’s followers were harassed, abused, and even tortured. At last, therefore, Muhammad sent seventy of his followers off to the northern town of Yathrib (Medina). Later, in the early fall of 622, he learned of a plot to murder him and, with his closest friend, Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, set off to join the emigrants. http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ihame/Sec2.htm

    The concept of Muslim invasion via Hegira, migrations that emulate the migration/flight of Muhammad and his motley crew of 70 men from Mecca to Medina, where Mo’ finally achieved success. The word Hegira needs to be spread around to meme status, so thanks! We have a few mosques on US soil named Dar al-Hijrah mosque. Hegira getting at least four different English spellings.

    He spoke at the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in northern Virginia on Nov. 17, 2013, as part of a program organized by the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF). The SETF has worked closely with Muslim Brotherhood members and some of its officials have expressed anti-Semitic statements and solidarity with Hamas.
    http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/dar-al-hijrah/

  12. The feminization of the European male has contributed to the invasion in two ways. European women, like all women, desire masculine men. The low supply of masculine native men thus necessitates the importation of masculine ethnic aliens. And of course European men, being overwhelmingly feminized, do not resist this mass cuckoldry given that resistence would require a degree of manliness that is virually absent among native Europeans in the early 21st century.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @AndrewR


    The feminization of the European male has contributed to the invasion in two ways.
     
    Without going into Whiskey-land with the first part, yes to the second. Here in the US when Republicans won control of Congress for the first time in 40 years (back in '94) the media- in probably its first full-tilt Cathedral offensive- told us it was all the fault of "angry white men". In 1996 it then told us the key swing constituency were "soccer moms" who were intensely turned-off by the meanie-mean talk (anti-illegal immigrant, anti-affirmative action) of Gingrich Republicans. And thereafter it's been one slow simmer of boiling the frog gradually in a pot of estrogen. If you think I'm kidding could you imagine 30 years ago the labor/union wing of leftist Western parties- basically beefy, thuggish guys whose bread-n-butter consisted in guarding a limited supply of pretty-good-paid, not-so-hard-to-do jobs for themselves and their acquaintances- at the cost of your knuckles and kneecaps if necessary- agreeing to open the doors like this because it was the "compassionate" thing?
    , @unpc downunder
    @AndrewR

    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

    The feminisation of masculine men isn't that big an issue, but the intellectual feminisation of educated white males is.

    East Asia is becoming the world's dominant civilisation despite having a low percentage of classically masculine men.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

  13. @Rob McX
    It's been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren't getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied "minors" per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can't be refused entry, and as soon as they're settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more "relatives" begins. Quite often, the "minor" may be 25 years old, and the "relatives" people who paid him large sums to pretend they're his family.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Erik Sieven

    It’s been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied “minors” per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can’t be refused entry, and as soon as they’re settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more “relatives” begins. Quite often, the “minor” may be 25 years old, and the “relatives” people who paid him large sums to pretend they’re his family.

    DNA testing is needed for all legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Also biometric ID data gathered from immigrants (legal and illegal) and all who enter America on visas. You don’t like it, then tough! Instead the PTB/NSA gathers as much information as possible on US citizens. The Feds are creating huge databases for medical records that get misused and leaked by authorized personnel of which (I will bet) there are some millions. Direct Federal employees and workers for Federal contractors.

    Its not just Muslims scamming high trust societies with fake children and fake relatives. Goes on all the time and its a great way for legal immigrants to make thousands of dollars. They are being paid for smuggling people in legally (unless caught) this way! Its not done out of the kindness of their hearts.
    Mexicans with those computerized one day border passes that allow them to enter here at any time. They legally cross in with other peoples children. Goes on all the time and they are get paid! Obviously!

    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Clyde

    I thought about DNA testing too.

    I wonder if the European countries will do to confirm that the people coming in as relatives are really relatives? They'd be crazy if they didn't. Unlike us here, though, I would think that if it's not already a law or regulation, they'll make it one.

    We are still strikingly unable to process the thought that changing facts on the ground re immigration may require a change in our laws and regulations -- as well as our expectations and attitudes. The ideas that many American have that because we used to take in lots of people we must always do so and that because illegal immigration is bad that therefore all legal immigration is good are very strong.

  14. Medical solution?
    Portable X-ray or other machines to examine migrant bone plate growth or similar non-falsifiable age markers.
    Doctors, please weigh in on options.

    • Replies: @jimB
    @Ivy

    Medical Solution?
    Depo Provera, anti-psych meds, and tranquilizers before packing this crowd onto a transport ship back to the Middle East.

  15. @whorefinder
    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes "perfectly" normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @jimB, @carol

    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

    Hardly.

    I’ve been trying for years here to get the point across that modern white people are insane. These are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    “Marriage equality” and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    • Replies: @Some Economist
    @Reg Cæsar

    I agree it's all a consequence of Western pathology, but I think whorefinder was suggesting something raunchier!

    , @John Derbyshire
    @Reg Cæsar

    Possibly: but there have been some false positives in this area.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @(((Owen)))
    @Reg Cæsar


    ese are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    “Marriage equality” and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.
     
    What relationship could those two things possibly have?

    This is typical of Republicans. There's a little posing as patriotic on immigration and the National Question. Then the real agenda comes out and it's really beating down other citizens who just happened to be born gay.

    What does hurting gay people who've never done anything bad to you do to protect the nation? Sure, it give you a little sexual thrill to visit humiliation on someone who can't defend himself with the whole government behind you to back you up. It does nothing for the well being of the nation, though.

    Banning birth control, banning abortion, banning gay marriage, banning liquor, and banning marijuana are more important to you than blocking the camp of the saints. The right wing is always happy to divide the Americans who want to preserve this country if that's what it takes to preserve cruelty against fellow citizens.

    Look at the Congress. The reason we can't get a patriotic majority is because you've excluded anyone who wants to treat fellow Americans fairly as equals from the supposedly patriotic party. Where is anyone with a moral sense -- anyone who doesn't hate gays for how they're born or crave prohibition and torture for people with different values -- supposed to go? They go straight to the only leaders who will have them: Obama, Hillary, and Luís Gutiérrez.
  16. @Jack D
    This has been going on for a long time. Somehow, my mother and 3 of her siblings (all gone now) all registered themselves as having been born in 1915 when they came to the US. For the men I think it was to put themselves beyond draft age. I think the women wanted to be closer in age to their spouses. It's a little note of bittersweet humor when I visit the cemetery and see 1915 on all their gravestones (and they were not quadruplets) . I used to think that it was because nobody kept birth records or they were all destroyed in the war, but this isn't true - when I visited Poland they had the birth records in the archives perfectly intact going way back (the older ones were in Russian script).

    Replies: @Big Bill

    In Russia they used to let the klal pick the young men to be drafted. As long as the Jews met their quota the Tsar was cool. I expect they selected the indifferent yeshiva bochurs, layabouts and troublemakers. It was eugenic for the klal. But America was much more egalitarian: select by age.

    What I can’t figure out was how the ultra-orthodox managed to dodge the draft during Korea and Vietnam. Surely they couldn’t dummy up their birth records in the USA.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Big Bill

    They also picked the poorest and least connected young men for conscription. One of my ancestors was conscripted in that manner. My other male ancestors who would have been at risk of Russian conscription emigrated.

    , @Jack D
    @Big Bill

    Draft Exemption category 4D- Ministers of religion or divinity students. I'm sure every draft age ultra-Orthodox male was a "divinity student". They do this in Israel too.

  17. @Rob McX
    It's been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren't getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied "minors" per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can't be refused entry, and as soon as they're settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more "relatives" begins. Quite often, the "minor" may be 25 years old, and the "relatives" people who paid him large sums to pretend they're his family.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Erik Sieven

    in general I wonder why no more people are coming right now. I have to admit that the way I understand the situation would be entirely true then right now not 2-3 million people would come to Germany per year but rather 30 million or 300 million.
    As I understand it the vast majority of the world population would rather like in a west european welfare state than in his or her home country.

  18. What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is.

    I think that obliquely touches upon an important point. A large part of the insanity and arrogance underlying Merkel’s Boner and other similar schemes throughout the Western world–and one that’s seldom mentioned even by the alt-right–is the implicit assumption that everybody in the world would love to move to Germany (or America, or wherever) if they got the chance. This just isn’t realistic. If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago. This transparently isn’t the case, but the opposite notion is so firmly lodged in the modern mind that it colors all thinking on the subject.

    What’s really going on here is that the operating system of the Western world is starting to crash. The lies we have told ourselves for several generations are bearing their fruit, combining in unstable ways and bringing the machinery to a halt. In the mind of the typical elitist, mass immigration is just QE for the meat-space; it is the printing of fiat wage slaves. When this can be done under the self-righteous veneer of SJW cosmopolitanism, so much the better. And if they can also use the self-same process to strategically depopulate Syria (so the thinking goes: If we can’t remove Assad with airstrikes, we’ll just evacuate his country!), then that’s icing on the cake. Yes, the upper classes really do think in this bizarre manner. They are the living exemplars of the managerial state run amok, viewing every human reality as some sort of logistical optimization problem.

    Unsurprisingly, the real world refuses to be the endlessly malleable putty that they try to make of it, and the structure of reality avenges itself on the world-improvers through the timeless mechanism of unintended consequences. Unintended (by the world-improvers)–but neither unforeseeable nor unforeseen. Good leadership adapts itself to reality and is in the highest sense identical with reality. Incompetent leadership has a theory of what ought to be and ruins everything with its tyranny and shrill demands.

    Merkel is one of those people sees the destiny of hundreds of thousands of human beings and the character of entire nations as hers to do with as she pleases. This staggering hubris will certainly be rebuffed by the gods.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I've been ruminating about life and death too much lately (peppered with the migrant crisis, the irritating election cycle, my youngest son's horrible football season & my aged dogs suddenly going downhill,) and as a mother, I think Merkel's childlessness plays a part in her having opened the doors to all of MENA without any logical plan. The fact that she is on the other side of time now, without her own children, has transformed her thinking that she is doing this great "motherly" thing to all those big-eyed children we constantly see in the media. This last overture of a woman who never got a chance to be a mother, is touching in a nicey-nice way, but OMG, she has no plan!

    However, now the chaos has started as winter is coming, and migrants arriving by busses to small towns and cities in Europe can not be left to just starve at the stations/town squares/succumb to pneumonia. Many are squabbling with locals and fights are breaking out.

    Maternal instincts are not always the wisest when it does not involve actual children, your kin or your community's (whatever that is) youth. There will be abundant crime & and violence for years to come since very few Muslims have integrated well or willingly, within their host countries in the last 20-25 years in northern Europe. I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country's culture.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonym, @Intelligent Dasein

    , @AnotherDad
    @Intelligent Dasein


    If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago.
     
    People have migrated continuously in human history. The reason no place is denuded is because there are *other people* already in the more desirable destinations. And historically people opposed *other people* just walking on in and taking their territory.

    What's new here is simply that European nations have essentially rolled out the welcome mat and said, "Hey, come take our country." This is unprecedented--because it's pretty unbelievable. As this information rolls out to the world, people in the world are evaluating it and seeing whether the costs\risks justify the reward.

    The obvious costs\risks:
    -- costs to make the journey (traffickers and food, plus lost income)
    -- failure--and possibly injury or death--to get there
    -- Europe wising up become the gates closing before you can get situated.

    I'm sure a lot of people don't believe Europe will keep up this foolishness for very long, and don't want to get caught in limbo--having spent lots of money and risked life and limb--when the door slams shut.

    But if the door doesn't close, the flood will really come. In fact, contrary to your claim, there are indeed several hundred million people who would like to emmigrate.

    Replies: @Rob McX

  19. Migrants under 18 are considered “children first and refugees second,” giving them the same rights as German children

    I know many still recoil from the term, but how is this not literally- OK not literally, but in its economic and socio-legal ramifications basically identical to- cuckoldry? Maybe some enterprising journalist and director can find a heart-warming story to come out of this Kinderwanderung , like one of these ‘fugees becoming a star soccer defenseman on the German national team thanks to the love of his German adoptive family- call it the BLINDEN SIIDEN.

  20. Primitive people tend to live as adults at earlier ages. Where these young men are from, teenagers are practically elder statesmen and certainly of military or job age.

    They should be (mis)treated as the virtual adult soldiers they are — and turned back.

    But we here all know this, so why am I bothering to preach to the choir?

    Have a nice day everybody, and enjoy your homeland while you still have it.

    • Replies: @Sam Houston
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What do you mean "while you still have it"? We haven't had our homeland for 50 years! It's time to take it BACK!!!!!

  21. “Mystery child tells Finnish PM: “I look big, but I’m 17.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. @Anon
    Don't be agephobic.

    Age is 'fluid'.

    If a 37 yr old says he is 17, he is 17.

    Give him the courage award.

    Don't you dare say this person is a man and not a baby.

    He is a baby. Insisting that he is a man is hateful and intolerant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsS06ZNLqMk

    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Abe, @Reg Cæsar

    That lady shouldn’t allow her baby to use power tools.

    She should put him on a diet too. This is child abuse, I tell you! Somebody should call Child Protective Servces, or whatever it’s called.

  23. @Buzz Mohawk
    Primitive people tend to live as adults at earlier ages. Where these young men are from, teenagers are practically elder statesmen and certainly of military or job age.

    They should be (mis)treated as the virtual adult soldiers they are -- and turned back.

    But we here all know this, so why am I bothering to preach to the choir?

    Have a nice day everybody, and enjoy your homeland while you still have it.

    Replies: @Sam Houston

    What do you mean “while you still have it”? We haven’t had our homeland for 50 years! It’s time to take it BACK!!!!!

  24. @Anon
    Don't be agephobic.

    Age is 'fluid'.

    If a 37 yr old says he is 17, he is 17.

    Give him the courage award.

    Don't you dare say this person is a man and not a baby.

    He is a baby. Insisting that he is a man is hateful and intolerant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsS06ZNLqMk

    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Abe, @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t you dare say this person is a man and not a baby

    World War B! Hah, I was going to suggest this to Steve like a year ago as the next frontier for SJW activism but didn’t have any real examples to prove the Cathedral would get this crazy. Yes, it’s darn-right intolerant and un-American to make people who are psychologically-incapable of bearing the burdens of adulthood be something they are not. “Grow-up” and “act your age” are hate speech! The only real question will therefore be one of the “diaper ceiling”- whether physiologically-developed “infants” still have certain… needs their caregivers are required to address now and then.

  25. @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

     

    Hardly.

    I've been trying for years here to get the point across that modern white people are insane. These are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    "Marriage equality" and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    Replies: @Some Economist, @John Derbyshire, @(((Owen)))

    I agree it’s all a consequence of Western pathology, but I think whorefinder was suggesting something raunchier!

  26. @AndrewR
    The feminization of the European male has contributed to the invasion in two ways. European women, like all women, desire masculine men. The low supply of masculine native men thus necessitates the importation of masculine ethnic aliens. And of course European men, being overwhelmingly feminized, do not resist this mass cuckoldry given that resistence would require a degree of manliness that is virually absent among native Europeans in the early 21st century.

    Replies: @Abe, @unpc downunder

    The feminization of the European male has contributed to the invasion in two ways.

    Without going into Whiskey-land with the first part, yes to the second. Here in the US when Republicans won control of Congress for the first time in 40 years (back in ’94) the media- in probably its first full-tilt Cathedral offensive- told us it was all the fault of “angry white men”. In 1996 it then told us the key swing constituency were “soccer moms” who were intensely turned-off by the meanie-mean talk (anti-illegal immigrant, anti-affirmative action) of Gingrich Republicans. And thereafter it’s been one slow simmer of boiling the frog gradually in a pot of estrogen. If you think I’m kidding could you imagine 30 years ago the labor/union wing of leftist Western parties- basically beefy, thuggish guys whose bread-n-butter consisted in guarding a limited supply of pretty-good-paid, not-so-hard-to-do jobs for themselves and their acquaintances- at the cost of your knuckles and kneecaps if necessary- agreeing to open the doors like this because it was the “compassionate” thing?

  27. This is a trick straight out of the Palestinian media arsenal. Every Pali who dies is a “boy”, even if he is 20 years old, even if he is a trained fighter with five years experience, even if he has just stabbed a bunch of people at a bus stop, even if he was throwing boulders through peoples’ car windows.

  28. @Intelligent Dasein

    What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is.
     
    I think that obliquely touches upon an important point. A large part of the insanity and arrogance underlying Merkel's Boner and other similar schemes throughout the Western world--and one that's seldom mentioned even by the alt-right--is the implicit assumption that everybody in the world would love to move to Germany (or America, or wherever) if they got the chance. This just isn't realistic. If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago. This transparently isn't the case, but the opposite notion is so firmly lodged in the modern mind that it colors all thinking on the subject.

    What's really going on here is that the operating system of the Western world is starting to crash. The lies we have told ourselves for several generations are bearing their fruit, combining in unstable ways and bringing the machinery to a halt. In the mind of the typical elitist, mass immigration is just QE for the meat-space; it is the printing of fiat wage slaves. When this can be done under the self-righteous veneer of SJW cosmopolitanism, so much the better. And if they can also use the self-same process to strategically depopulate Syria (so the thinking goes: If we can't remove Assad with airstrikes, we'll just evacuate his country!), then that's icing on the cake. Yes, the upper classes really do think in this bizarre manner. They are the living exemplars of the managerial state run amok, viewing every human reality as some sort of logistical optimization problem.

    Unsurprisingly, the real world refuses to be the endlessly malleable putty that they try to make of it, and the structure of reality avenges itself on the world-improvers through the timeless mechanism of unintended consequences. Unintended (by the world-improvers)--but neither unforeseeable nor unforeseen. Good leadership adapts itself to reality and is in the highest sense identical with reality. Incompetent leadership has a theory of what ought to be and ruins everything with its tyranny and shrill demands.

    Merkel is one of those people sees the destiny of hundreds of thousands of human beings and the character of entire nations as hers to do with as she pleases. This staggering hubris will certainly be rebuffed by the gods.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @AnotherDad

    I’ve been ruminating about life and death too much lately (peppered with the migrant crisis, the irritating election cycle, my youngest son’s horrible football season & my aged dogs suddenly going downhill,) and as a mother, I think Merkel’s childlessness plays a part in her having opened the doors to all of MENA without any logical plan. The fact that she is on the other side of time now, without her own children, has transformed her thinking that she is doing this great “motherly” thing to all those big-eyed children we constantly see in the media. This last overture of a woman who never got a chance to be a mother, is touching in a nicey-nice way, but OMG, she has no plan!

    However, now the chaos has started as winter is coming, and migrants arriving by busses to small towns and cities in Europe can not be left to just starve at the stations/town squares/succumb to pneumonia. Many are squabbling with locals and fights are breaking out.

    Maternal instincts are not always the wisest when it does not involve actual children, your kin or your community’s (whatever that is) youth. There will be abundant crime & and violence for years to come since very few Muslims have integrated well or willingly, within their host countries in the last 20-25 years in northern Europe. I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country’s culture.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lagertha

    "I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country’s culture."

    This.

    Replies: @Anonym

    , @Anonym
    @Lagertha

    I definitely think you are on to something. These migrant lovers have cat lady syndrome - the urge in women who have resigned themselves to a life bereft of children of their own, to seek and nurture child substitutes. These may be feline or migrant in nature. Self sufficiency in the target of these instincts is actually a negative - "Cat lady syndrome" sufferers seek out objects to nurture and therefore the more helpless and problematic the objects of their nurturing desires are, the more nurturing and protecting they "need".

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Lagertha

    Thanks for sharing that perspective. My very bright sister concurs with your analysis from a female point of view.

  29. @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

     

    Hardly.

    I've been trying for years here to get the point across that modern white people are insane. These are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    "Marriage equality" and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    Replies: @Some Economist, @John Derbyshire, @(((Owen)))

    Possibly: but there have been some false positives in this area.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @John Derbyshire

    Actually Fraulein G. looks kind of mannish

    http://arabic.refugees-welcome.net/

    - nowadays it wouldn't shock me if she was a tranny. But we'll give her the benefit of the doubt. She may even be interested in personally "welcoming" some of the hotter looking male refugees herself.

  30. @Big Bill
    @Jack D

    In Russia they used to let the klal pick the young men to be drafted. As long as the Jews met their quota the Tsar was cool. I expect they selected the indifferent yeshiva bochurs, layabouts and troublemakers. It was eugenic for the klal. But America was much more egalitarian: select by age.

    What I can't figure out was how the ultra-orthodox managed to dodge the draft during Korea and Vietnam. Surely they couldn't dummy up their birth records in the USA.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

    They also picked the poorest and least connected young men for conscription. One of my ancestors was conscripted in that manner. My other male ancestors who would have been at risk of Russian conscription emigrated.

  31. @Lagertha
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I've been ruminating about life and death too much lately (peppered with the migrant crisis, the irritating election cycle, my youngest son's horrible football season & my aged dogs suddenly going downhill,) and as a mother, I think Merkel's childlessness plays a part in her having opened the doors to all of MENA without any logical plan. The fact that she is on the other side of time now, without her own children, has transformed her thinking that she is doing this great "motherly" thing to all those big-eyed children we constantly see in the media. This last overture of a woman who never got a chance to be a mother, is touching in a nicey-nice way, but OMG, she has no plan!

    However, now the chaos has started as winter is coming, and migrants arriving by busses to small towns and cities in Europe can not be left to just starve at the stations/town squares/succumb to pneumonia. Many are squabbling with locals and fights are breaking out.

    Maternal instincts are not always the wisest when it does not involve actual children, your kin or your community's (whatever that is) youth. There will be abundant crime & and violence for years to come since very few Muslims have integrated well or willingly, within their host countries in the last 20-25 years in northern Europe. I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country's culture.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonym, @Intelligent Dasein

    “I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country’s culture.”

    This.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Anonymous

    I don't care if they assimilate or not. I don't want to be race replaced.

  32. @Big Bill
    @Jack D

    In Russia they used to let the klal pick the young men to be drafted. As long as the Jews met their quota the Tsar was cool. I expect they selected the indifferent yeshiva bochurs, layabouts and troublemakers. It was eugenic for the klal. But America was much more egalitarian: select by age.

    What I can't figure out was how the ultra-orthodox managed to dodge the draft during Korea and Vietnam. Surely they couldn't dummy up their birth records in the USA.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

    Draft Exemption category 4D- Ministers of religion or divinity students. I’m sure every draft age ultra-Orthodox male was a “divinity student”. They do this in Israel too.

  33. @John Derbyshire
    @Reg Cæsar

    Possibly: but there have been some false positives in this area.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Actually Fraulein G. looks kind of mannish

    http://arabic.refugees-welcome.net/

    – nowadays it wouldn’t shock me if she was a tranny. But we’ll give her the benefit of the doubt. She may even be interested in personally “welcoming” some of the hotter looking male refugees herself.

  34. @whorefinder
    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes "perfectly" normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @jimB, @carol

    Homosexuals are also targets of the Muslim rape army tramping its way to Germany and Scandinavia. In the Middle East, sodomy is halal if you are the pitcher. Afghan men rape prepubescent boys pretty much at will. In Sweden, the first rape crisis center for men was recently opened coinciding with the explosion of the male Muslim immigrant population. Coincidence? I think not.

  35. @Ivy
    Medical solution?
    Portable X-ray or other machines to examine migrant bone plate growth or similar non-falsifiable age markers.
    Doctors, please weigh in on options.

    Replies: @jimB

    Medical Solution?
    Depo Provera, anti-psych meds, and tranquilizers before packing this crowd onto a transport ship back to the Middle East.

  36. Mystery child tells Finnish PM: “I look big, but I’m 17.”

    Bravūrīgs un melīgs “bēgļu puisis” izprovocējis karstas debates par imigrāciju Somijā. FOTO

    Dashing and lying “refugee guy” provoked a heated debate on immigration in Finland. PHOTO

    … Finnish television channel MTV aired a brief conversation between the Finnish Prime Minister Juhu Sipile and asylum seekers Fahad Firasu from Oulu refugee center.

    he seems to have spent some time in prison for the attack for a young person.

    He also threatened to kill some Internet users.

    In his profile on the guy pointed out their favorite movies – “Asslovers” and “Texas Chain Saw Massacre.”

    One of social networks, he recorded: “My name is Fahad, which means the cheetah, and you are all sheep, be careful.”

    pic with army gear
    eat sleep f… repeat shirt

  37. @Intelligent Dasein

    What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is.
     
    I think that obliquely touches upon an important point. A large part of the insanity and arrogance underlying Merkel's Boner and other similar schemes throughout the Western world--and one that's seldom mentioned even by the alt-right--is the implicit assumption that everybody in the world would love to move to Germany (or America, or wherever) if they got the chance. This just isn't realistic. If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago. This transparently isn't the case, but the opposite notion is so firmly lodged in the modern mind that it colors all thinking on the subject.

    What's really going on here is that the operating system of the Western world is starting to crash. The lies we have told ourselves for several generations are bearing their fruit, combining in unstable ways and bringing the machinery to a halt. In the mind of the typical elitist, mass immigration is just QE for the meat-space; it is the printing of fiat wage slaves. When this can be done under the self-righteous veneer of SJW cosmopolitanism, so much the better. And if they can also use the self-same process to strategically depopulate Syria (so the thinking goes: If we can't remove Assad with airstrikes, we'll just evacuate his country!), then that's icing on the cake. Yes, the upper classes really do think in this bizarre manner. They are the living exemplars of the managerial state run amok, viewing every human reality as some sort of logistical optimization problem.

    Unsurprisingly, the real world refuses to be the endlessly malleable putty that they try to make of it, and the structure of reality avenges itself on the world-improvers through the timeless mechanism of unintended consequences. Unintended (by the world-improvers)--but neither unforeseeable nor unforeseen. Good leadership adapts itself to reality and is in the highest sense identical with reality. Incompetent leadership has a theory of what ought to be and ruins everything with its tyranny and shrill demands.

    Merkel is one of those people sees the destiny of hundreds of thousands of human beings and the character of entire nations as hers to do with as she pleases. This staggering hubris will certainly be rebuffed by the gods.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @AnotherDad

    If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago.

    People have migrated continuously in human history. The reason no place is denuded is because there are *other people* already in the more desirable destinations. And historically people opposed *other people* just walking on in and taking their territory.

    What’s new here is simply that European nations have essentially rolled out the welcome mat and said, “Hey, come take our country.” This is unprecedented–because it’s pretty unbelievable. As this information rolls out to the world, people in the world are evaluating it and seeing whether the costs\risks justify the reward.

    The obvious costs\risks:
    — costs to make the journey (traffickers and food, plus lost income)
    — failure–and possibly injury or death–to get there
    — Europe wising up become the gates closing before you can get situated.

    I’m sure a lot of people don’t believe Europe will keep up this foolishness for very long, and don’t want to get caught in limbo–having spent lots of money and risked life and limb–when the door slams shut.

    But if the door doesn’t close, the flood will really come. In fact, contrary to your claim, there are indeed several hundred million people who would like to emmigrate.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad

    There's no doubt about it, the flood will be a never-ending one unless Europe slams its borders shut and deports all illegals. The trouble with many people in white countries is that they project their own characteristics on to other races. They think Africa and the Middle East are places whose ultimate goal is European-style democracy. Until that happens, they believe, they may need a helping hand, someone to take in a few million of their surplus population spewed northwards by war or poverty. They can't see that poverty, war, plunder and massacres are the norm in these places.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  38. @whorefinder
    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes "perfectly" normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @jimB, @carol

    To think how rich and famous gays like William S Burroughs and Leonard Bernstein used go abroad for their boys. Tangier, Mexico City…Now the boys come to them!

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @carol

    The mountain coming to Muhammed, or Muhammed coming to be mounted.

  39. @Lagertha
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I've been ruminating about life and death too much lately (peppered with the migrant crisis, the irritating election cycle, my youngest son's horrible football season & my aged dogs suddenly going downhill,) and as a mother, I think Merkel's childlessness plays a part in her having opened the doors to all of MENA without any logical plan. The fact that she is on the other side of time now, without her own children, has transformed her thinking that she is doing this great "motherly" thing to all those big-eyed children we constantly see in the media. This last overture of a woman who never got a chance to be a mother, is touching in a nicey-nice way, but OMG, she has no plan!

    However, now the chaos has started as winter is coming, and migrants arriving by busses to small towns and cities in Europe can not be left to just starve at the stations/town squares/succumb to pneumonia. Many are squabbling with locals and fights are breaking out.

    Maternal instincts are not always the wisest when it does not involve actual children, your kin or your community's (whatever that is) youth. There will be abundant crime & and violence for years to come since very few Muslims have integrated well or willingly, within their host countries in the last 20-25 years in northern Europe. I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country's culture.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonym, @Intelligent Dasein

    I definitely think you are on to something. These migrant lovers have cat lady syndrome – the urge in women who have resigned themselves to a life bereft of children of their own, to seek and nurture child substitutes. These may be feline or migrant in nature. Self sufficiency in the target of these instincts is actually a negative – “Cat lady syndrome” sufferers seek out objects to nurture and therefore the more helpless and problematic the objects of their nurturing desires are, the more nurturing and protecting they “need”.

  40. @Anonymous
    @Lagertha

    "I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country’s culture."

    This.

    Replies: @Anonym

    I don’t care if they assimilate or not. I don’t want to be race replaced.

  41. @carol
    @whorefinder

    To think how rich and famous gays like William S Burroughs and Leonard Bernstein used go abroad for their boys. Tangier, Mexico City...Now the boys come to them!

    Replies: @Rob McX

    The mountain coming to Muhammed, or Muhammed coming to be mounted.

  42. http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.682675?utm

    Israeli military does this to prepare to kill Muslims to protect Jews.

    German military does this to prepare to kill Germans to support ‘refugees’.

  43. He was no more
    (He was no more)
    Than a baby then
    Well, he seemed broken hearted
    Somethin’ within him
    But the moment
    That I first laid
    Eyes on him
    All alone on the edge of seventeen”

    Stevie Nicks

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @AMH

    Great song!

    Here's a question - why, all of a sudden, is the age of maturity suddenly agreed upon to be 18? Is there some magical about that age? Was there a UN proclamation I missed? Maybe it's just in Western countries?

    Yes, I generally do favor a lower age of consent. In many respects people are mature and should be treated as adults before age 18 - case in point, the "teen" refugees. Why treat that "17 year old" body builder with kid gloves?

    On the other hand, invaders should be met with force no matter their age, and prevented from entering or kicked out as the case may be.

  44. Well for some reason white women find these guys attractive having walked through London.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @rvg

    British women find those men attractive for the same reason that Anna Stubblefield described herself as "in love" with a mentally defective black midget. They're all brainwashed SJW moon-bats in love with their own self-righteous conceits. Let the Muslims have them.

  45. @AMH
    "He was no more
    (He was no more)
    Than a baby then
    Well, he seemed broken hearted
    Somethin' within him
    But the moment
    That I first laid
    Eyes on him
    All alone on the edge of seventeen"

    Stevie Nicks

    Replies: @Jasper Been

    Great song!

    Here’s a question – why, all of a sudden, is the age of maturity suddenly agreed upon to be 18? Is there some magical about that age? Was there a UN proclamation I missed? Maybe it’s just in Western countries?

    Yes, I generally do favor a lower age of consent. In many respects people are mature and should be treated as adults before age 18 – case in point, the “teen” refugees. Why treat that “17 year old” body builder with kid gloves?

    On the other hand, invaders should be met with force no matter their age, and prevented from entering or kicked out as the case may be.

  46. @AnotherDad
    @Intelligent Dasein


    If human beings were naturally prone to migrate their way out of difficult circumstances, then every poor country, war zone, and harsh clime on the planet would have been denuded of people long ago.
     
    People have migrated continuously in human history. The reason no place is denuded is because there are *other people* already in the more desirable destinations. And historically people opposed *other people* just walking on in and taking their territory.

    What's new here is simply that European nations have essentially rolled out the welcome mat and said, "Hey, come take our country." This is unprecedented--because it's pretty unbelievable. As this information rolls out to the world, people in the world are evaluating it and seeing whether the costs\risks justify the reward.

    The obvious costs\risks:
    -- costs to make the journey (traffickers and food, plus lost income)
    -- failure--and possibly injury or death--to get there
    -- Europe wising up become the gates closing before you can get situated.

    I'm sure a lot of people don't believe Europe will keep up this foolishness for very long, and don't want to get caught in limbo--having spent lots of money and risked life and limb--when the door slams shut.

    But if the door doesn't close, the flood will really come. In fact, contrary to your claim, there are indeed several hundred million people who would like to emmigrate.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    There’s no doubt about it, the flood will be a never-ending one unless Europe slams its borders shut and deports all illegals. The trouble with many people in white countries is that they project their own characteristics on to other races. They think Africa and the Middle East are places whose ultimate goal is European-style democracy. Until that happens, they believe, they may need a helping hand, someone to take in a few million of their surplus population spewed northwards by war or poverty. They can’t see that poverty, war, plunder and massacres are the norm in these places.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Rob McX

    Exactly, but as an EU & USA citizen, Europe is clueless and discombobulated now...no one there knows what to do & no one talks (usual)...they are like ostriches with their heads in the sand hoping "they" will just stop coming...everyone is hoping the winter will stop them. But, no, duh: because: thrift-shop/hand-me-down down jackets, better life jackets and better/faster Rib boats.

  47. @Mike Street Station
    I saw one being interviewed on TV a few days ago. He said he was 19 but looked in his late 30's. Who knew the Middle East aged you that quickly?

    Replies: @anonymous

    Who knew the Middle East aged you that quickly?

    Take a look at most of those age 50 and over. Those people usually look pretty shot by then.

  48. @rvg
    Well for some reason white women find these guys attractive having walked through London.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    British women find those men attractive for the same reason that Anna Stubblefield described herself as “in love” with a mentally defective black midget. They’re all brainwashed SJW moon-bats in love with their own self-righteous conceits. Let the Muslims have them.

  49. @Lagertha
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I've been ruminating about life and death too much lately (peppered with the migrant crisis, the irritating election cycle, my youngest son's horrible football season & my aged dogs suddenly going downhill,) and as a mother, I think Merkel's childlessness plays a part in her having opened the doors to all of MENA without any logical plan. The fact that she is on the other side of time now, without her own children, has transformed her thinking that she is doing this great "motherly" thing to all those big-eyed children we constantly see in the media. This last overture of a woman who never got a chance to be a mother, is touching in a nicey-nice way, but OMG, she has no plan!

    However, now the chaos has started as winter is coming, and migrants arriving by busses to small towns and cities in Europe can not be left to just starve at the stations/town squares/succumb to pneumonia. Many are squabbling with locals and fights are breaking out.

    Maternal instincts are not always the wisest when it does not involve actual children, your kin or your community's (whatever that is) youth. There will be abundant crime & and violence for years to come since very few Muslims have integrated well or willingly, within their host countries in the last 20-25 years in northern Europe. I hate the idea, rather fact, that parallel communities of migrant cultures will continue to grow which are entirely dependent on the host culture yet rebuff the host country's culture.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonym, @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks for sharing that perspective. My very bright sister concurs with your analysis from a female point of view.

  50. @AndrewR
    The feminization of the European male has contributed to the invasion in two ways. European women, like all women, desire masculine men. The low supply of masculine native men thus necessitates the importation of masculine ethnic aliens. And of course European men, being overwhelmingly feminized, do not resist this mass cuckoldry given that resistence would require a degree of manliness that is virually absent among native Europeans in the early 21st century.

    Replies: @Abe, @unpc downunder

    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

    The feminisation of masculine men isn’t that big an issue, but the intellectual feminisation of educated white males is.

    East Asia is becoming the world’s dominant civilisation despite having a low percentage of classically masculine men.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @unpc downunder



    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

     

    Interestingly, in recent years both Germany and Sweden abolished, or at least suspended, military conscription, which was all male. Norway did precisely the opposite, applying the existing draft law to women as well. This is the first time in history any country has drafted the sexes on an equal basis.

    Feminists in Norway cheered. (The rest of the female population, I kinda doubt.) What I'd like to know is if feminism played any role in the German and Swedish decisions. If education and employment are equal, but sacrifice is not (you fall off the career path for some time), it puts the ideologues on the spot.

    Denmark and Finland, as far as I know, maintain their all-male draft.

    Replies: @andy russia

    , @Brutusale
    @unpc downunder

    Strong men?

    Uh, Google Matt Kroc.

  51. @Rob McX
    @AnotherDad

    There's no doubt about it, the flood will be a never-ending one unless Europe slams its borders shut and deports all illegals. The trouble with many people in white countries is that they project their own characteristics on to other races. They think Africa and the Middle East are places whose ultimate goal is European-style democracy. Until that happens, they believe, they may need a helping hand, someone to take in a few million of their surplus population spewed northwards by war or poverty. They can't see that poverty, war, plunder and massacres are the norm in these places.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Exactly, but as an EU & USA citizen, Europe is clueless and discombobulated now…no one there knows what to do & no one talks (usual)…they are like ostriches with their heads in the sand hoping “they” will just stop coming…everyone is hoping the winter will stop them. But, no, duh: because: thrift-shop/hand-me-down down jackets, better life jackets and better/faster Rib boats.

  52. @Anon
    Don't be agephobic.

    Age is 'fluid'.

    If a 37 yr old says he is 17, he is 17.

    Give him the courage award.

    Don't you dare say this person is a man and not a baby.

    He is a baby. Insisting that he is a man is hateful and intolerant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsS06ZNLqMk

    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Abe, @Reg Cæsar

    And if 11 yr olds believe that they are 18, he(or she or xe or ze)should be given the right to vote.

    And to marry their imams.

  53. @unpc downunder
    @AndrewR

    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

    The feminisation of masculine men isn't that big an issue, but the intellectual feminisation of educated white males is.

    East Asia is becoming the world's dominant civilisation despite having a low percentage of classically masculine men.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

    Interestingly, in recent years both Germany and Sweden abolished, or at least suspended, military conscription, which was all male. Norway did precisely the opposite, applying the existing draft law to women as well. This is the first time in history any country has drafted the sexes on an equal basis.

    Feminists in Norway cheered. (The rest of the female population, I kinda doubt.) What I’d like to know is if feminism played any role in the German and Swedish decisions. If education and employment are equal, but sacrifice is not (you fall off the career path for some time), it puts the ideologues on the spot.

    Denmark and Finland, as far as I know, maintain their all-male draft.

    • Replies: @andy russia
    @Reg Cæsar


    Norway did precisely the opposite, applying the existing draft law to women as well. This is the first time in history any country has drafted the sexes on an equal basis.

    Feminists in Norway cheered. (The rest of the female population, I kinda doubt.) What I’d like to know is if feminism played any role in the German and Swedish decisions. If education and employment are equal, but sacrifice is not (you fall off the career path for some time), it puts the ideologues on the spot.
     

    they could be doing it for hyper-SJW reasons, rather than any conscious effort to show the feminists up. although, if it's the latter, then the fact that Norway isn't in the EU (something about fishing rights, I think) probably helped. Also, Norway was where they made this 7-part documentary series, "Brainwash", about SJWs.

    Wikipedia:
    Shortly afterward, the Nordic Council of Ministers closed down the Nordic Gender Institute, though it was unclear whether the series had influenced their decision.[citation needed]

  54. @Reg Cæsar
    @unpc downunder



    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

     

    Interestingly, in recent years both Germany and Sweden abolished, or at least suspended, military conscription, which was all male. Norway did precisely the opposite, applying the existing draft law to women as well. This is the first time in history any country has drafted the sexes on an equal basis.

    Feminists in Norway cheered. (The rest of the female population, I kinda doubt.) What I'd like to know is if feminism played any role in the German and Swedish decisions. If education and employment are equal, but sacrifice is not (you fall off the career path for some time), it puts the ideologues on the spot.

    Denmark and Finland, as far as I know, maintain their all-male draft.

    Replies: @andy russia

    Norway did precisely the opposite, applying the existing draft law to women as well. This is the first time in history any country has drafted the sexes on an equal basis.

    Feminists in Norway cheered. (The rest of the female population, I kinda doubt.) What I’d like to know is if feminism played any role in the German and Swedish decisions. If education and employment are equal, but sacrifice is not (you fall off the career path for some time), it puts the ideologues on the spot.

    they could be doing it for hyper-SJW reasons, rather than any conscious effort to show the feminists up. although, if it’s the latter, then the fact that Norway isn’t in the EU (something about fishing rights, I think) probably helped. Also, Norway was where they made this 7-part documentary series, “Brainwash”, about SJWs.

    Wikipedia:
    Shortly afterward, the Nordic Council of Ministers closed down the Nordic Gender Institute, though it was unclear whether the series had influenced their decision.[citation needed]

  55. @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    Ya know, homosexual openness/marriage becomes “perfectly” normal in the last 10-15 years in the Western World and all of a sudden the West wants to start importing poor, young, desperate men from the Middle East and South America.

    Coincidence?

     

    Hardly.

    I've been trying for years here to get the point across that modern white people are insane. These are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    "Marriage equality" and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    Replies: @Some Economist, @John Derbyshire, @(((Owen)))

    ese are just two manifestations of the same phenomenon.

    “Marriage equality” and tribal equality are two sides of the same slug.

    What relationship could those two things possibly have?

    This is typical of Republicans. There’s a little posing as patriotic on immigration and the National Question. Then the real agenda comes out and it’s really beating down other citizens who just happened to be born gay.

    What does hurting gay people who’ve never done anything bad to you do to protect the nation? Sure, it give you a little sexual thrill to visit humiliation on someone who can’t defend himself with the whole government behind you to back you up. It does nothing for the well being of the nation, though.

    Banning birth control, banning abortion, banning gay marriage, banning liquor, and banning marijuana are more important to you than blocking the camp of the saints. The right wing is always happy to divide the Americans who want to preserve this country if that’s what it takes to preserve cruelty against fellow citizens.

    Look at the Congress. The reason we can’t get a patriotic majority is because you’ve excluded anyone who wants to treat fellow Americans fairly as equals from the supposedly patriotic party. Where is anyone with a moral sense — anyone who doesn’t hate gays for how they’re born or crave prohibition and torture for people with different values — supposed to go? They go straight to the only leaders who will have them: Obama, Hillary, and Luís Gutiérrez.

  56. Maybe Merkel will be like the crazy dictator in “Bananas.”

    “As of now, all refugees more than seventeen years old are now…seventeen years old!”

    What’s the German word for “straightjacket?”

  57. @Clyde
    @Rob McX


    It’s been going on for years. What surprises me is that more of them aren’t getting in on the racket, given how easy it is. Currently the official figure for the UK is 3000 unaccompanied “minors” per year entering the country. Anyone credibly claiming to be under 18 is untouchable. They can’t be refused entry, and as soon as they’re settled in, the process of bringing in half a dozen or more “relatives” begins. Quite often, the “minor” may be 25 years old, and the “relatives” people who paid him large sums to pretend they’re his family.
     
    DNA testing is needed for all legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Also biometric ID data gathered from immigrants (legal and illegal) and all who enter America on visas. You don't like it, then tough! Instead the PTB/NSA gathers as much information as possible on US citizens. The Feds are creating huge databases for medical records that get misused and leaked by authorized personnel of which (I will bet) there are some millions. Direct Federal employees and workers for Federal contractors.

    Its not just Muslims scamming high trust societies with fake children and fake relatives. Goes on all the time and its a great way for legal immigrants to make thousands of dollars. They are being paid for smuggling people in legally (unless caught) this way! Its not done out of the kindness of their hearts.
    Mexicans with those computerized one day border passes that allow them to enter here at any time. They legally cross in with other peoples children. Goes on all the time and they are get paid! Obviously!

    Replies: @notsaying

    I thought about DNA testing too.

    I wonder if the European countries will do to confirm that the people coming in as relatives are really relatives? They’d be crazy if they didn’t. Unlike us here, though, I would think that if it’s not already a law or regulation, they’ll make it one.

    We are still strikingly unable to process the thought that changing facts on the ground re immigration may require a change in our laws and regulations — as well as our expectations and attitudes. The ideas that many American have that because we used to take in lots of people we must always do so and that because illegal immigration is bad that therefore all legal immigration is good are very strong.

  58. @unpc downunder
    @AndrewR

    There are plenty of masculine men in liberal countries like Sweden, Iceland, Canada etc. Last time I checked, the strongest man in the world was Scandinavian. The problem is there are too many aggressive, feminist women and leftists and too few educated men who are willing to oppose them.

    The feminisation of masculine men isn't that big an issue, but the intellectual feminisation of educated white males is.

    East Asia is becoming the world's dominant civilisation despite having a low percentage of classically masculine men.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brutusale

    Strong men?

    Uh, Google Matt Kroc.

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