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An interesting question is why there hasn’t been any noticeable push to get people to lose some weight so they are more resilient to covid. “Let’s lose ten pounds” seems like it would be a beneficial campaign for Americans, both due to covid and due to longer term problems like diabetes, heart attack, and stroke.
But who could lead this campaign?
Obviously, Trump got fatter over his term as President, which contributed to him coming worrisomely close to dying of covid in October 2020 (“Am I going out like Stan Chera?”), so it would have been kind of weird for him to promote weight loss when he wasn’t going to do it himself.
Biden is admirably slender for an ex-college football player. On the other hand, he’s so skinny, he couldn’t really afford to lose ten pounds. He’d look like he’s totally wasting away.
What about Kamala? She’s looking good for her age, but she could probably afford to lose ten pounds.
Biden keeps appointing her to hopeless jobs like squaring the circle of Democratic desire for more immigrants with the public’s distaste for overwhelmed borders.
So why not appoint Kamala to something that might be within her competency: setting a national good example by shedding ten pounds?
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Trump has lost quite a bit of weight since leaving office so he might be an appropriate spokesman, except that whatever he says to do, Democrats have to do the opposite.
Harry, perhaps Hildabeast would make an appropriate spokeswoman:
https://flic.kr/p/2mjjXZ5
Does she not still carry quite a bit weight with the party?Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Alden
Sailer is for the next one.
For the present sad to say Maddow, DiAngelo, Oprah, Rowling, Laura Bush, Beyoncé
Makes sense. He was in that Oval Office several hours a day.
Ten pounds? Steve, you need to get out more…
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many “ocracy” nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for “rule by fat people”?
I had the wrong mindset when I was taught some Latin while young and, unlike the memorious Boris Johnson, I know no Greek but I think there IS a possible word to describe rule by the obese:
ObesocracyReplies: @kaganovitch, @TWS
Lipos being Greek for fat.
Although “Adipocracy” sounds better. From the Latin.
What makes you think Trump almost died? The man was better in two days and did a debate the next week.
Meanwhile, Krispy Kreme is now giving away 2 donuts to jabbbee’s.
https://www.delish.com/food-news/a37395354/krispy-kreme-free-heart-donut-vaccines/
If you can’t lose weight and defeat the virus head-on, let’s use rushed dubious band-aid solutions while encouraging you add to the BMI figure, so to speak.
https://youtu.be/xdRQS4VsaGMReplies: @Mr. Anon
Does losing weight really lower susceptibility to covid? It seems plausible that there would be genetic factors that would result in both lower body fat and less severe covid. If these explain the difference in outcomes losing weight might not accomplish much as far as coronavirus is concerned.
fat => less vitamin D in the bloodReplies: @J.Ross
I was getting a summer checkup from my family doc, a reasonable fella who schooled in a flyover state, and we exchanged views on the pandemic. I was surprised to hear him say it was real, it was serious, and he had lost three patients to it (also, that it's a rather awful way to go). Upon further questioning, all three were seniors, and all three were seriously overweight. He told me the #1 factor in Covid health risk was obesity, no question about it.
And it's the third rail of Covid discussion; we can't be telling everyone that being 30 over is a health risk while simultaneously displaying enormously overweight body images on commercials and telling everyone to love their bodies as they are.
Not if he says to run and bike. Those are sacred rites.
It worked so well when Michelle tried it.
Peak Stupidity noted early on in the Trump administration that, with the exception of a very few, most First Ladies since Eisenhower have had a First Lady thing. (Not that they were elected to do squat-all, of course). In “Washington FS and First Ladies”, we were hoping that the Trump first lady project would be something involving the marketing of lingerie.
It’d be great if Harris could be distracted with some project to keep her out of the quagmire of stupidity she’s been stuck in. However, I’m not sure how thrilled the ladies or anyone in this country would be by this get the lead out project. It would be a good thing, though. Anything to quell the Kung Flu hysteria is fine by me.* Beats the hell out of “eat moar brocolli!”
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* More people would end up with longer lives due to lower Diabetes rates than due to avoiding the great COVID on-niner, IMO.
Anyway, it seems like they have been trying to find anything and everything for Harris to f-ck up, but she is so incompetent, she can't even f-ck things up. She's a non-starter.
I thought she would do better, because her optics are "MILF", but iSteve disagreed and seems to have been correct. So far, total loser.
But I think she will be POTUS within 4 years despite that...Replies: @anon
“Obviously, Trump got fatter over his term as President, which contributed to him coming worrisomely close to dying of covid in October 2020 ”
LOL. such bullshit Sailer.
Based on his previous posting on COVID, I suspect it is the latter.Replies: @TWS
In Kamala’s case, rising beyond the maximum level of incompetency (as per the Peter Principle) would be doubtful here.
Apart from anything big pharma comes up with, the real cure to the obesity epidemic would be treating processed food like cigarettes. Basically, Bloomberg’s soda ban times 10,000. And Republicans would go absolutely hysterical if any politician tried to do that. Another example of zombie fusionism causing the right to reject policies that would actually make their lives better.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.20118877v2
https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/med-2021-0273/html
https://publichealth.jmir.org/2021/4/e27091/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1179173X20988674
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/add.15276
https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/early/2020/04/20/13993003.01116-2020
https://publichealth.jmir.org/2021/4/e27091/
New axis of intersectionality: fat black females. Let’s get Lizzo to do it. 60 pounds.
Both the singer Adele and the comedienne Rebel Wilson lost their weight, right before the pandemic I think. Unfortunately the trouble with these perennial tabloid fodder stories is the increasing impression one needs to be as rich as Adele before launching such a personal moonshot. He gets a bad press around here but David Brooks theorized the national greatness implications of "human carbohydrate sculptures" in Arkansas, etc., to much mockery from the predictable libertarians, decades before the certified populists had got around to it.
‘So why not appoint Kamala to something that might be within her competency: setting a national good example by shedding ten pounds?’
Wouldn’t that come suspiciously close to losing what little blackness she has?
Hell, maybe she should gain fifty pounds. She’d look blacker.
In 2021, a white man telling his “black”/minority female underling that she needs to lose some weight is something that Dementia Joe, in his senile state and with his instinctive condescending sexual nature to females, would uniquely find a perfectly easy and natural thing to do.
I think his handlers should have him do it.
Please let this happen. And please let this be video recorded. Oh heavens, please!
Now Steve, you know your idea is sexist. (Is “sexist” even a word now?) Assigning weight loss to a woman simply lights all kinds of fires. You know this, so one must conclude you are trolling.
Yes, a campaign for fat reduction would be good for Americans. Maybe it could work like the old anti-littering campaign you and I both remember.
This commenter notices that everywhere he looks he sees fat people. Americans are FAT.
Disgusting.
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MEH, damn, you know I thought she was a medical doctor. You know for her age she is a nice looking lady but she does not have a fawning press like michelle had. Glam cover after glam cover.
Steve, where do you find the sacrificial lamb to approach harris and propose her losing 10 pounds?
Pretty sure the Donald would to it just for fun.
Trump was worried: “Am I going out like Stan Chera?”
My guess would be that the Regeneron monoclonal antibody cocktail did him some good.
The harm is not so much from the virus but from an overreaction from your immune system? The cytokine storm that blocks up the lungs?
iSteve may have some experience with this, but taking interferon or other immunotherapy to fight a cancer makes a person seriously flu-like sick?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @donut
When it comes to Trump show the tape or it didn't happen.
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
Lipocracy. Adipocracy if you want to mix Latin and Greek.
Everyone is aware of what "Liposuction" is, so they should be able to tease out the rest.
It could be used for a great campaign slogan For Biden and his crew in 2022....
"Kakocracy, Gerontocracy, Lipocracy or death!!!"
Unlikely. Truth hurts.
In the same vein, why not go all the way and assign Kamala to a campaign for Americans to learn how to dress again.
Seriously, our people are slobs now. Fully mature guys wear jeans and t-shirts with writing on them. (Fat) Women go around in stuffed yoga pants and sweat shirts. I’ve seen people in church dressed like that, and I rarely go to church!
Go all the sexist way, and have Kamala dress properly and encourage all American women to do so as well:
I'll be happy to see weight loss, honestly. Forget the hats and suits.Replies: @Mike Tre, @Lurker
Anyway, it's worth a look. RIP, Charlie.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/25/fashion/25watts-style-ascot/25watts-style-ascot-superJumbo-v4.jpg
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/style/the-uniform-cool-of-charlie-watts.htmlReplies: @G. Poulin, @Buzz Mohawk
My guess would be, like everyone else I know who got it, he got mild diarrhea (sorry, TMI), a mild fever, a lack of appetite, and in general felt like shit for a couple of days. Wheeww, that was a close one.
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
Uh, way more than 30-40 % of the electorate is overweight. That’s just who’s obese. 70-75% of the electorate is overweight.
Our perception of weight in America is so ridiculous that we tend to register someone as “normal” unless they are obese. It’s one reason we keep hearing about all the “healthy” young people in their 30s/40s dying of COVID. There are deaths (I actually know of a few) but these people aren’t that healthy and are fairly overweight, likely with underlying conditions like high blood pressure or high cholesterol.
Did Biden play college football, or is this just another Biden bullshit story? The guy lies so habitually, for decades, you can’t help having doubts.
As usual, it’s 50% bullshit. He’s implied in speeches that he played on the road against Ohio State, and that’s 100% bullshit. He played on the freshman team, the ‘Blue Chicks’ I guess, but he had to quit to get his 1.9 GPA up. They don’t have freshman football anymore, anywhere.
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jlw9zMBX7vY/UGW0p8gtWuI/AAAAAAAADF4/8TRMqQf__0U/s1600/lynch_display_image+copy.jpgReplies: @Steve Sailer
With everything going on, what the hell was Kamala doing in Vietnam?
Nixon , as VP during Eisenhower’s first term visited 19 countries. According to Steven Ambrose ( a plagiarist , a man who invented a series of interviews with Eisenhower upon which he wrote a book that allowed Ambrose a comfortable life,) Ike wanted his VP to have a relationship as something other than a red- baiter which was déclassé even in 1950’s
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2009/summer/nixon.htmlReplies: @William Badwhite
Could Kamala be eliminated soon with a military guided missile to her airplane... That's why she's is Asia. It may be done soon, by the usual suspects, and blamed on ISIS or maybe even the Russians! (aren't the Russians blamed for everything now?), giving the US the excuse it needs to advance its agenda again.
Think about it. False flag coming down fast. The mainstream media are all attacking Joey Alzheimin' Biden, big time. He needs sympathy, and an excuse to leave his stressful office for an ice cream cone, a nap, and time to stare into a fireplace. Kamala is clearly NOT presidential material. No way. Any Republican candidate would crush her. She couldn't even handle the Democratic primary. She may very well be on a short list for elimination. Maybe that's why she was put there.
Sweden Forced to Pay Rapist Migrant £70k/$96k for Trying Him as Adult
The victim should get all of that and more.
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Honestly, it’s the techies. When they made more money than everyone else they got the ability to set the tone, and they didn’t want to dress up, so now everyone else doesn’t either. I think it’s one of those prisoner’s dilemma situations where everyone realized they could get away with not dressing well since nobody else was–Steve said about the same thing with female upkeep in Boston vs Texas a while back. Plus lots of people staying home thanks to COVID.
I’ll be happy to see weight loss, honestly. Forget the hats and suits.
Fair point. I appreciate the sarcastic spirit of Steve’s trollen but it’d be pointless for Harris to promote this message. And I don’t know if anyone else would be a better messenger. When I was growing up we’d have to watch short PSA’s in school from Arnold Schwarzenegger on behalf of something called the “Presidential Council on Fitness.” I’ll grant it might have impressed 1 out of every 30 or 40 boys who had to hear it but the youth obesity stats in California or elsewhere were immune to the model. The dieting industry bonanza hasn’t improved the aggregate outline of post-teenaged women either. The ones who were trim and “pneumatic” in Huxley’s word are even more so, the ones who were more or less fat/sickly are even more so. That’s Capitalism.
Performing an easy act to demonstrate her capability of being a “leader” on the international stage — in preparation for her ascension to the throne.
You don’t seriously think Joe Biden is going to make it all the way, do you?
FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT!
(But is “female” an accepted concept anymore?)
https://www.delish.com/food-news/a37395354/krispy-kreme-free-heart-donut-vaccines/
If you can't lose weight and defeat the virus head-on, let's use rushed dubious band-aid solutions while encouraging you add to the BMI figure, so to speak.Replies: @James J O'Meara
Well, if you get vaxxed, you’ll never die, so dig in!
https://archive.fo/Ilhyq
To me the fat-and-fabulous branding of Lizzo looked patently questionable long-term. This is what you get when you surround yourself with gays and take career advice from them.
Both the singer Adele and the comedienne Rebel Wilson lost their weight, right before the pandemic I think. Unfortunately the trouble with these perennial tabloid fodder stories is the increasing impression one needs to be as rich as Adele before launching such a personal moonshot. He gets a bad press around here but David Brooks theorized the national greatness implications of “human carbohydrate sculptures” in Arkansas, etc., to much mockery from the predictable libertarians, decades before the certified populists had got around to it.
fat => more inflammation
fat => less vitamin D in the blood
I’ve thought the same thing myself and have said so in repeated comments to this blog and other articles on the Unz Review…only to have more than a few people excoriate me for “fat-shaming” or explain in great detail exactly why losing weight is simply not possible for them.
Take a look at your fellow shoppers (I can’t assume they are all fellow citizens) the next time you’re grocery shopping and see how many are disgustingly fat, but of course, dutifully wearing masks.
Now here in CA we have LOTS of obesity, but apparently the south is a whole nother level.
A comment was made the other day about a middle America state (OH?) to the effect that there is no pressure to be thin there. Is this the problem? Nobody cares about thin anymore so everybody just gets fat?Replies: @anon, @TTSSYF
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
While First Lady, the very trim and demonstrably fit Michelle Obama hectored the masses to grow spinach and kale, to eat healthier food, to take more exercise and to lose some weight, but nobody seems to have listened very hard or to have shed many ounces.
I had the wrong mindset when I was taught some Latin while young and, unlike the memorious Boris Johnson, I know no Greek but I think there IS a possible word to describe rule by the obese:
Obesocracy
According to America's newspaper of record, Michelle gained an enormous amount of weight in the White House.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Johann Ricke
Ironically , Kamala is adding heft and bulk to her feather -weight resume
Nixon , as VP during Eisenhower’s first term visited 19 countries. According to Steven Ambrose ( a plagiarist , a man who invented a series of interviews with Eisenhower upon which he wrote a book that allowed Ambrose a comfortable life,) Ike wanted his VP to have a relationship as something other than a red- baiter which was déclassé even in 1950’s
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2009/summer/nixon.html
I have not noticed any Trump weight loss. He better lose 70lbs if he wants to run in 2024. He was trim as a man in his 30s. He looks 100lbs heavier from then.
Stupid phone made me accidentally click on that stupid link. Ron shouldn’t permit link masking like that. Now my phone is infected–with covid, most likely.
IDK, but if you want to find out it’ll cost you ten dolla.
“Democrats have to do the opposite.”
Harry, perhaps Hildabeast would make an appropriate spokeswoman:
Does she not still carry quite a bit weight with the party?
I think that sweatshirt’s a Woman’s XX and she doesn’t want to admit she’s grown to Woman’s XXX You see a lot of women bulging out of regular women’s size 16 or 18 clothes. It’s because they need to buy Woman’s X that fits. But don’t want to humiliate themselves by admitting it.
Steve, where do you find the sacrificial lamb to approach harris and propose losing 10 pounds
Pretty sure the Donald would to it just for fun.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/a2/8f/e0a28fab68348bc2e4f47486fdb6e914.jpgReplies: @SFG, @PiltdownMan, @donut, @Slim
The New York Times has a piece on the dress style of the late Charlie Watts. Thin as a rail all his life, he dressed like a British rock star of the 1960s, which is to say, he was a direct descendant of a certain recognizable type in England, the Regency dandy.
Anyway, it’s worth a look. RIP, Charlie.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/style/the-uniform-cool-of-charlie-watts.html
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qGMNG_LIffs/UlmdS-lRmGI/AAAAAAAAJnQ/2wmP-Qa1rcI/s1600/charlie+watts+a70bf8d44213b2117782371cb1c70532.jpg
I had the wrong mindset when I was taught some Latin while young and, unlike the memorious Boris Johnson, I know no Greek but I think there IS a possible word to describe rule by the obese:
ObesocracyReplies: @kaganovitch, @TWS
While First Lady, the very trim and demonstrably fit Michelle Obama hectored the masses to grow spinach and kale, to eat healthier food, to take more exercise and to lose some weight, but nobody seems to have listened very hard or to have shed many ounces.
According to America’s newspaper of record, Michelle gained an enormous amount of weight in the White House.
American Pravda.Replies: @kaganovitch
— “15 days to flatten her curves?”
It would be a lot more fun to turn the cameras on and ask Cori Bush.
As usual, it's 50% bullshit. He's implied in speeches that he played on the road against Ohio State, and that's 100% bullshit. He played on the freshman team, the 'Blue Chicks' I guess, but he had to quit to get his 1.9 GPA up. They don't have freshman football anymore, anywhere.Replies: @Anon, @AceDeuce
C’mon, man!
If the Dems had sated their despotic desires by sending the obese to FEMA fat camps, there wouldn’t be an epidemic in America anymore.
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jlw9zMBX7vY/UGW0p8gtWuI/AAAAAAAADF4/8TRMqQf__0U/s1600/lynch_display_image+copy.jpgReplies: @Steve Sailer
Biden was a good high school player, scoring 10 touchdowns his senior season, and played on the U. of Delaware freshman team.
https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/08/joe-biden-penn-athletics-football-archmere-2020-election-delaware
Biden was a good high school player, scoring 10 touchdowns his senior season,
Did he every play for Polk High?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0vPlm1rAsso/maxresdefault.jpg
They are probably on three or more meds in their 30s-40s. Be careful with Covid-x if you are this young and on meds. These meds are often for the Covid co-morbidities we hear about. I am on no meds, just lots of D/K2/C and zinc. D- 10000units daily and btw no-vaxxxxxxx.
Biden was a good high school player, scoring 10 touchdowns his senior season,
Did he every play for Polk High?
I have lost a fair amount of weight recently. Health was an important motivating factor initially, but vanity seems to be keeping me going as I get past halfway to my goal. Having a gut is embarrassing (or it should be).
Maybe we need a new focus on aesthetics. Americans are badly deprived of fit, pretty people compared to the 80s of my childhood. The new arrivals aren’t helping much, either.
More really fit, really muscular people, and lots more seriously obese people.
I’ve managed to keep myself within 10 lbs of my high school weight for several decades via moderate exercise. Decent shape, but nothing spectacular. I don’t think you see as many moderately fit people like me as you did 20-30 years ago.Replies: @joe_mama, @Reg Cæsar, @AKAHorace
Today's twenty-something women of America err on the sordid culinary ways of the fat, wallowing pig. They are certainly nothing to admire or celebrate.
I think I could safely bet my existence on this mortal plane that none of the people in this video would require a covid vaccine. Hell, they were probably carrying unknown viruses at that time that could have taken out half of America.
https://youtu.be/UrGw_cOgwa8
[inappropriate laughter]
Seriously though, those of us worried about our Ingineered Future should be grateful for Kamala. Before we were in the unwinnable position of trying to educate someone, before they personally experienced it, what South Asians were like. Now we can just bring up the Vice President and burst into inappropriate laughter …
So he was a college football player in the same way Richard Nixon was a college football player.
Getting rolled without a fight and then fleeing. Whaddaya know, she is American.
fat => less vitamin D in the bloodReplies: @J.Ross
And let’s not forgive Trusting The Science when the doc are lying to the public after bribes from the sugar industry. Nobody was as fat as we are today when everybody fried in lard.
He started his talk by saying, "I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol."
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, "no one knows why"?
My theory is the President Eisenhower's heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember "poly-unsaturated margarine"?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950's selves?Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @AceDeuce
He could use and mention woke corp. sports wear . Being seen in Nike shoes and so forth maybe have a negative impact on sales .
Yeah that’s a good idea , I mean who knows what’s good for us better than the fu*king gov’t ?
Signing an unconditional surrender?
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She could lose 10lbs. of silicone overnight .
Harry, perhaps Hildabeast would make an appropriate spokeswoman:
https://flic.kr/p/2mjjXZ5
Does she not still carry quite a bit weight with the party?Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Alden
Hillary’s clothing is almost Taliban compliant. Even the hands are covered up. She has really let herself go.
Bill looks like the proper, mouth-breathing hick he always has been. When the CIA and Fulbright enlist you, you can go anywhere.Replies: @donut
Ironically, Covid seems to be accomplishing that. At the grocery store this morning I noticed a large empty section in the cooler and a note apologizing for their difficulties in obtaining processed meats during “the pandemic.”
I don’t think 10 pounds matters to Covid.
And I’m not sure even a 100-pound weight loss, for Trump for instance, would matter. The metabolic changes of being really obese are permanent and do not disappear with weight loss. It’s still a good ideal for other reasons, like mobility.
And finally, remember that Body Weight is 0.8 heritable, as confirmed by the million genome GWAS studies. Since two-thirds of the U.S. is overweight or obese, and approximately zero percent of them want to be, it’s likely that there are some pretty intractable processes keeping people at their weight. Would that we could return to the pre-obesogenic environment of the 1970s, with few fast food outlets serving lower calorie food, markets whose prepared food was limited to rotisserie chicken, plates were smaller, chicken breasts could fit in your hand, high schools didn’t have vending machines, people were free to shame the overweight, and parents of children were not fat.
Otherwise, meat-only diets wouldn't have any effect. I am not saying they are healthy. But they, definitely, work for some short span of time. And how, if everything is about the amount of calories? I know about ketosis etc,, but this is not the topic. The point with the carnivore diet is that is works at all, while it shouldn't, according to the calories-counting nutritionism.
Consider an Asian perspective –
Could Kamala be eliminated soon with a military guided missile to her airplane… That’s why she’s is Asia. It may be done soon, by the usual suspects, and blamed on ISIS or maybe even the Russians! (aren’t the Russians blamed for everything now?), giving the US the excuse it needs to advance its agenda again.
Think about it. False flag coming down fast. The mainstream media are all attacking Joey Alzheimin’ Biden, big time. He needs sympathy, and an excuse to leave his stressful office for an ice cream cone, a nap, and time to stare into a fireplace. Kamala is clearly NOT presidential material. No way. Any Republican candidate would crush her. She couldn’t even handle the Democratic primary. She may very well be on a short list for elimination. Maybe that’s why she was put there.
Safer than Sweden, where an Arab rapist was awarded nearly a million crowns because he was “underage” when prosecuted:
Sweden Forced to Pay Rapist Migrant £70k/$96k for Trying Him as Adult
The victim should get all of that and more.
I know you live in the porn capital of the country, but for a second there I was a little surprised that you would be writing a post about fluffers.
As usual, it's 50% bullshit. He's implied in speeches that he played on the road against Ohio State, and that's 100% bullshit. He played on the freshman team, the 'Blue Chicks' I guess, but he had to quit to get his 1.9 GPA up. They don't have freshman football anymore, anywhere.Replies: @Anon, @AceDeuce
Don’t forget, though, that his high school/college athletic career coincided with his tragic bout of asthma that lasted throughout the years of the military draft for Vietnam. By pure coincidence, of course.
Libcux who never served themselves but loved to yammer on about Trump’s 1960s era bone spurs are curiously silent about Joe’s mysterious asthma that thankfully disappeared after the draft ended, allowing him to become a an avid jogger and ride his Peleton.
Regarding Kamala’s proposed weight loss. The old saying goes, once a woman hits middle-age, she can have her figure, or her face, but not both. (I think this old adage also applies to men, unless they have cheek beards to cover up a gaunt face.) I suppose this adage no longer applies in the era of facial fillers. Milley seems to have become the military leader of the entire country by having a full face.
Is that a serious question? Nobody thinks the Covid Lockdown is about anybody’s health. The actual people who are at risk, the elderly, the HIV+, the fat, get the least attention when they die.
This is about exercising power and it was obviously a convenient way to make it easier to get rid of Trump. This is so starkly political, no one can not notice it.
Public school PE is the biggest joke in the totally crappy system.
The kids who need the exercise are all hopelessly uncoordinated and out of shape. The credentialed teacher makes them do jumping jacks, walk 6 times around the mini basketball court, etc. They look like they’re going to pass out.
Girls throw the ball as though they were feeding the ducks. Small boys get humiliated in the showers.
Two types of kids get A’s: The J/V athletes and the most geeky, physically unfit. The former are class clowns, but they score TDs on Friday night. The latter play games to hit 4.5 GPAs. They get A’s for brown-nosing.
Co-ed square dancing. Really.
Maybe we need a new focus on aesthetics. Americans are badly deprived of fit, pretty people compared to the 80s of my childhood. The new arrivals aren't helping much, either.Replies: @NJ Transit Commuter, @Anonymous, @Goddard
Seems to me society has become more dichotomous when it comes to health and appearance.
More really fit, really muscular people, and lots more seriously obese people.
I’ve managed to keep myself within 10 lbs of my high school weight for several decades via moderate exercise. Decent shape, but nothing spectacular. I don’t think you see as many moderately fit people like me as you did 20-30 years ago.
What is interesting is how it sort of transcends parties. The fit bro, muscular Joe Rogan crowd is definitely on the right. Fit people on the left are your garden variety NPR listening, triathlete, CA healthy types.
And then tons of fat and out of shape people on the left and the right. Middle aged overweight cat-ladies on the left. People of Walmart gastropods on the right. And everything in between.
And Steve, there's no chance of your idea happening. We're way too down the road of "fat acceptance" in the name of tolerance, body positivity, etc. The left will reject it for those reasons. The right will reject it because: "How dare the govt tell me what to do!".
To be fair to the right though, the govt has been pretty wrong on it's food recommendations the last 30-40 years.
Soros-backed L.A. DA George Gascón Will Not Oppose Parole for Assassin Who Killed Robert F. Kennedy
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Savagely Takes Down Anthony Fauci In Bombshell New Book About Coronavirus Handling
What Rosey Grier has to say about all this I don't know, but it would make a fascinating subject for a needlepoint.
Combined with range of races, tolerance of dress styles (or lack of style) and popularity of tatooing and piercing, a time traveller from the 1950s would feel like they were at a trip to the zoo.
Collard greens, fried chicken and mutton curry with butter naan.
Maybe we need a new focus on aesthetics. Americans are badly deprived of fit, pretty people compared to the 80s of my childhood. The new arrivals aren't helping much, either.Replies: @NJ Transit Commuter, @Anonymous, @Goddard
Indeed.
Today’s twenty-something women of America err on the sordid culinary ways of the fat, wallowing pig. They are certainly nothing to admire or celebrate.
I think I could safely bet my existence on this mortal plane that none of the people in this video would require a covid vaccine. Hell, they were probably carrying unknown viruses at that time that could have taken out half of America.
how fat? the curve of age vs bmi with minimum mortality slopes upward quite a bit. the reason for this appears to be that those who gain weight with age often maintain their muscle mass much more than those who don’t. marlon brando faked his death. he hangs out with henry kissinger in tahiti. it’s nice to see that both of them have completed their geometric shape affirming transition. they are now both spheres.
OT: #Hope Springs Eternal#, #Silver Lining#, #The Man’s a Sociopath#
More really fit, really muscular people, and lots more seriously obese people.
I’ve managed to keep myself within 10 lbs of my high school weight for several decades via moderate exercise. Decent shape, but nothing spectacular. I don’t think you see as many moderately fit people like me as you did 20-30 years ago.Replies: @joe_mama, @Reg Cæsar, @AKAHorace
Agreed. Just like a reflection of our politics, we’re pretty divided.
What is interesting is how it sort of transcends parties. The fit bro, muscular Joe Rogan crowd is definitely on the right. Fit people on the left are your garden variety NPR listening, triathlete, CA healthy types.
And then tons of fat and out of shape people on the left and the right. Middle aged overweight cat-ladies on the left. People of Walmart gastropods on the right. And everything in between.
And Steve, there’s no chance of your idea happening. We’re way too down the road of “fat acceptance” in the name of tolerance, body positivity, etc. The left will reject it for those reasons. The right will reject it because: “How dare the govt tell me what to do!”.
To be fair to the right though, the govt has been pretty wrong on it’s food recommendations the last 30-40 years.
Speaking of dichotomy and health, Robert F Kennedy’s killer is about to be paroled, but Junior is directing his ire at Dr Fauci rather than DA Gascón:
Soros-backed L.A. DA George Gascón Will Not Oppose Parole for Assassin Who Killed Robert F. Kennedy
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Savagely Takes Down Anthony Fauci In Bombshell New Book About Coronavirus Handling
What Rosey Grier has to say about all this I don’t know, but it would make a fascinating subject for a needlepoint.
More really fit, really muscular people, and lots more seriously obese people.
I’ve managed to keep myself within 10 lbs of my high school weight for several decades via moderate exercise. Decent shape, but nothing spectacular. I don’t think you see as many moderately fit people like me as you did 20-30 years ago.Replies: @joe_mama, @Reg Cæsar, @AKAHorace
Speaking of dichotomy and health, Robert F Kennedy’s killer is about to be paroled, but Junior is directing his ire at Dr Fauci rather than DA Gascón:
Soros-backed L.A. DA George Gascón Will Not Oppose Parole for Assassin Who Killed Robert F. Kennedy
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Savagely Takes Down Anthony Fauci In Bombshell New Book About Coronavirus Handling
What Rosey Grier has to say about all this I don’t know, but it would make a fascinating subject for a needlepoint.
She’s just working on becoming more authentically black.
OT:
It looks like the New York Times is moving the goalposts on how many Afghans should be flown out of that country by our military. Until last week, the chatter in the NYT and Washington Post was about how we “owed” up to 60,000 Afghans life in America for them, and for their descendants, forevermore. Now that that has happened, the number seems to have jumped up five-fold.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/25/world/asia/afghanistan-evacuations-estimates.html
Something you see in old films – people in a cafe or pub ordering a sandwich, usually a cheese or ham one. That was probably considered a treat.
It looks like a wall. This can only mean that the Times is laying groundwork for blaming Trump.
Because they are not worried about our health, or even about “covid”. They are worried about which other levels of control they can impose on us.
If they were worried about our “health”, trying to reducing obesity, regardless of its effects on “covid”, and reducing the promotion of unhealthy processed foods, would be better for society than any current measure against “covid”.
But they won’t go there, because, they don’t really care. It’s not about health. It was never about health.
Communicable disease? Open the borders!
People gathering anyway? My group is virus-proof but your group are super-spreaders!
The tests don't work (golly, they sure shouldn't, their inventor said so), but even after admitting they don't work, we'll keep using them.
Masks? No. Yes. Two. One. No. Yes.
A porn star using a laughable methodology said your out-of-copyright drug is, like, no good, man.
The virus can't get you if you go on vacation in Mexico because it expects you at home.
I’m fat.
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I’m lucky in that I have an endo-meso build – broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that “former football player” look. (At this point there’s somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I’ve tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I’m not a delusional “body-positive” shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone’s unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, “I’m a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!”
Given that Kamala Harris’s core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is – download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I’m his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don’t envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn’t – popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn’t an asshole, either – he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn’t too smart, but with his body and his face he didn’t need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don’t envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he’s skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don’t envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin’s kids are half-black and she’s stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she’s porked up considerably over the years. So I don’t envy her, either.
Her father – my uncle – used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don’t envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can’t get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don’t envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who’ve contracted COVID. They’re not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she’s the only one of her three siblings who’s never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty – of whom there are many, to be sure – would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It’s 3:30 in the morning here … only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan’wich already! One Double Croissan’wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!
You are a real gem. Seriously.Replies: @Stan Adams
You have my personality but way worse.
A lot of people wash out while young, we know that. That has NOTHING to do with your life.
Your lack of 'Get up And Go' is inherited by the homeless Dad.
So, I virtually load a sock full of rocks, walk up to you and give you a much needed Slap Across the Face.
No one loves you, no one cares about you, you have to care about yourself...and if you can't even care about yourself...
That's what that comment said...it said 'Not only do I not have the ability to care about others...but I don't even care about myself.'Replies: @Stan Adams
So was Thomas Aquinas. More of you to love, darling.
What metabolic changes?
Seriously though, in men, the decreased production of testosterone (testosterone is literally the white supremacy of hormones) and the increased production of estrogen are a significant factor in weight gain, as well as other ailments, prostate cancer being one of them.
Ah, the old “lets send Fredo out to Vegas where he’ll be harmless” gambit?
Dunno, the sadist in me says it’s worth a try. I bet Trump could devastate an entire industry, if he appeared in public wearing a lycra cycling outfit.
I'll be happy to see weight loss, honestly. Forget the hats and suits.Replies: @Mike Tre, @Lurker
I read once that John Kennedy was the first president to not wear a hat while outside in public view; a decision was made due to vanity. Perhaps the descent into casual slobbery began there.
She resembles John Kerry in the second photo.
Anyway, it's worth a look. RIP, Charlie.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/25/fashion/25watts-style-ascot/25watts-style-ascot-superJumbo-v4.jpg
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/style/the-uniform-cool-of-charlie-watts.htmlReplies: @G. Poulin, @Buzz Mohawk
Through it all, Charlie Watts managed to stay married to one woman. Amazing. It must have been the coolness factor.
They haven’t promoted actual health in any of the major western countries. Many countries only grudgingly allowed people outdoors for exercise, but with limits, i.e. one hour only, no companions unless social distanced, no stopping for rest breaks, don’t take tea or coffee along as that would be a picnic and not exercise. When was the last time you heard Fauci promote proper nutrition or taking vitamin D. Social distancing and fear also take a toll on mental well being, which contributes to weakening of natural immunity and physical health. Then there’s the matter of actual treatments, like IVM and HCQ. The only people promoting any of these things were deemed conspiracy thoerists and anti-vaxxers, and have been brutally censored and even professionally censured if they dare to question the official protocol of keeping people at home and untreated until they need to go to the hospital to die.
In other words, our public policy makers don’t want healthy people: They want people to join the Vaxxi party or die. Saying ‘No’ to the jabs was never going to be an option.
Some examples of these metabolic changes are excuses, justifications, laziness, and lack of discipline.
Seriously though, in men, the decreased production of testosterone (testosterone is literally the white supremacy of hormones) and the increased production of estrogen are a significant factor in weight gain, as well as other ailments, prostate cancer being one of them.
Maybe we need a new focus on aesthetics. Americans are badly deprived of fit, pretty people compared to the 80s of my childhood. The new arrivals aren't helping much, either.Replies: @NJ Transit Commuter, @Anonymous, @Goddard
Or you see the shapely, trim chick and on closer inspection find … the tat.
She’s looking good for her age
When did this happen?
I think people “inherit” their families’ eating habits, comfort foods, sedentariness, and excuses from sheer proximity. And often the child grows up eating treats the parent didn’t discover until adulthood, so the kid is even fatter than the parent.
My mons side nearly everyone is portly or just obese. They all started off rail thin and over time, well, by the time most had hit 30 they were porkys.
Genes maybe?
I for sure do not have my moms eating habits and never did. Can't say for pops he died when i was 4.
I don't have one cousin that's even 5lbs over. Nearly everyone thin as a rail and 1/2 their parents are xxxl.
I heard recently a new diet drug hit and is actually OTC which is pretty amazing you can get it without a Dr. I think it was developed for a diabetes but everyone that was taking it was losing weight.
I would think it'll be a major seller and whatever company owns it would maybe be a good investment since it has such a large targeted group that'll pay anything to lose even 10lbs.
The American waist size is at real health crisis.
I truly feel for those that struggle with food/weight. Gotta be miserable.
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
Lardocracy?
From reports, my guess is that the Regeneron antibody brew put the hurt on him. “Omigosh, the President is going to die! We have to give him our most risky experimental therapy!” Maybe it would have been less a crisis if Mr. Trump was just left untreated?
The harm is not so much from the virus but from an overreaction from your immune system? The cytokine storm that blocks up the lungs?
iSteve may have some experience with this, but taking interferon or other immunotherapy to fight a cancer makes a person seriously flu-like sick?
The harm is not so much from the virus but from an overreaction from your immune system? The cytokine storm that blocks up the lungs?
iSteve may have some experience with this, but taking interferon or other immunotherapy to fight a cancer makes a person seriously flu-like sick?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @donut
Why was Trump in the hospital in the first place?
Anyone here remember Thomas Moore and his infamous article in Atlantic expressing cholesterol skepticism?
He started his talk by saying, “I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol.”
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, “no one knows why”?
My theory is the President Eisenhower’s heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember “poly-unsaturated margarine”?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950’s selves?
C’mon man! Don’t you think, “he is the President, we have to do something” was in play?
iSteve, I am not your run-of-the-mill zinc-D-and-Ivermectin-popping mask-avoiding vaccine-denying silly person. You notice and I ask questions.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/antiparasitic-drug-reduces-covid-19-infection-exclusive-658949
Sheba researcher: Antiparasitic drug reduces length of COVID-19 infection
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
No one on my dad’s side was ever close to being fat. Most were prolly a bit underweight.
My mons side nearly everyone is portly or just obese. They all started off rail thin and over time, well, by the time most had hit 30 they were porkys.
Genes maybe?
I for sure do not have my moms eating habits and never did. Can’t say for pops he died when i was 4.
I don’t have one cousin that’s even 5lbs over. Nearly everyone thin as a rail and 1/2 their parents are xxxl.
I heard recently a new diet drug hit and is actually OTC which is pretty amazing you can get it without a Dr. I think it was developed for a diabetes but everyone that was taking it was losing weight.
I would think it’ll be a major seller and whatever company owns it would maybe be a good investment since it has such a large targeted group that’ll pay anything to lose even 10lbs.
The American waist size is at real health crisis.
I truly feel for those that struggle with food/weight. Gotta be miserable.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/hillary-and-bill-clinton-spotted-in-the-hamptons/
You just ripped this off from from Kevin Michael Grace without even the courtesy of a hat tip.
Unlike you, Steve, KMG is actually a courageous and thoughtful person who, out of an abundance of charity and a deficiency of self-regard, somehow still considers you a friend. He really deserves a better friend than you. He never wimped out about Covid, unlike you. He quotes you approvingly and with attribution, even though he is more wise and knowledgeable than you by far and mentioning your name only serves to sully his otherwise fine show.
You’re already riding his coattails; do you have to pick his pocket, too?
Anyway, it's worth a look. RIP, Charlie.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/25/fashion/25watts-style-ascot/25watts-style-ascot-superJumbo-v4.jpg
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/style/the-uniform-cool-of-charlie-watts.htmlReplies: @G. Poulin, @Buzz Mohawk
Charlie was the coolest Stone for that very reason. Hand-made suits and shoes in the finest English tradition.
My favorite story about him is the one recounted by Keith Richards, in which Charlie put on a double-breasted suit, went to Mick Jagger’s hotel room and punched him in the face for saying “Where’s MY drummer?!” As Mick was picking himself up off the floor, Charlie said, “Don’t you ever again call me YOUR drummer! You’re MY fucking singer!”
Rest In Peace, Charlie, and thanks for the music.
Tubbytopia?
You know what they say… “when you’re in a quagmire, the first thing to do is stop quarmiring.” Or was it “stop stupidifying?” or something?
Anyway, it seems like they have been trying to find anything and everything for Harris to f-ck up, but she is so incompetent, she can’t even f-ck things up. She’s a non-starter.
I thought she would do better, because her optics are “MILF”, but iSteve disagreed and seems to have been correct. So far, total loser.
But I think she will be POTUS within 4 years despite that…
No! Not even!
It seems like the trend of the increase in obesity coincides with the trend of the decrease in smoking cigarettes. Nicotine is an appetite suppressant.
Maybe we could get our skinny, cigarette-smoking former President to make cigarettes cool again and drive down the obesity levels!
LOL. such bullshit Sailer.Replies: @Chrisnonymous
Yeah, it’s hard to tell if Sailer is saying that for the purpose of making a narrative for his post, or if he is really so scared of COVID that he perceived Trump to be in danger that he was not in.
Based on his previous posting on COVID, I suspect it is the latter.
https://youtu.be/xdRQS4VsaGMReplies: @Mr. Anon
And if even if you do die from COVID after getting vaxxed, it would have been worse without the vaccine:
https://archive.fo/Ilhyq
The harm is not so much from the virus but from an overreaction from your immune system? The cytokine storm that blocks up the lungs?
iSteve may have some experience with this, but taking interferon or other immunotherapy to fight a cancer makes a person seriously flu-like sick?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @donut
A six month course of interferon used to be the treatment for hep. c a lot of people couldn’t complete the tx due the side effects .
Steve is using the topic as an opportunity to make fun of Harris, or, more likely, using a joke about Harris as an opportunity to start talking about this topic.
To take it seriously, no political leader is in the position to lead Americans on this point.
The person who is to become America’s “Fat Czar” needs to have a quality of celebrity-ishness, but not be part of the elite leftist culture.
Trump was a possible candidate, but he doesn’t care about his physique enough.
Schwarzenegger would have been a possibility, but (a) he has been a governor and health czar before, so taking this position would have been a step down and (b) a few years ago, he was involved in producing a dishonest documentary about veganism and athletic performance that has forever disqualified him from any non-corporate health promotion.
No 20-year-old gym bro can qualify since he is 20 years old and that means his experience and routine is meaningless, but Hulk Hogan as an almost-elderly man is a possibility. But he seems to have almost disappeared.
Probably, it needs to be a celebrity, but the problem with celebrities is that they don’t really know what they’re doing. P.D. Mangan knows what he’s doing, but he’s too old and nerdy to be a poster boy.
Maybe the USA needs, instead of a czar, a whole health committee composed of a variety of people who are quasi-scientist and quasi-celebrity, like P.D. Mangan.
The problem is that the composition of this committee would become a subset of the wars over low-carb and low-fat. COVID should have put this conflict to rest in favor of the low-carb proponents, but in reality people like Steve are still looking up to people like Steven Pinker and wanting to emulate his skeletal physique because he is at Harvard.
Eat your veggies. But also eat your meats. Not too often. And run your hills. And lift. Do you even lift, bro?
Kamala would fail even at the task of losing 10 lbs due to her Brahmin Indian ancestry. For Brahmins, once weight goes it never comes off because weight loss requires some exercise, and physical exertion is only for the lower castes. Combine that with Kamala’s African ancestry which morally compels her to live the high life so her black brethren can live vicariously through her and she ends up eating at a lot four star restaurants and relaxing in hotel penthouse suites. In fact, she was accused of making her staff endure rough conditions while she lived in luxury during her US senate campaign; apparently, she spent the lion’s share her campaign largess on chauffeured limos and luxury accommodations at the Four Seasons while forcing her personal assistants to rent compact cars from Enterprise, eat at Mickey Ds, and stay at Motel Six with hot and cold running cockroaches.
Yes, by all means, stay indoors with three masks on and completely purge your body of zinc and Vitamin D3. I’m sure you’ll be much better off.
Always has. Now with the added bonus of people blaming the Jews desperately trying to keep up.
He started his talk by saying, "I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol."
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, "no one knows why"?
My theory is the President Eisenhower's heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember "poly-unsaturated margarine"?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950's selves?Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @AceDeuce
A lot of that increase in life expectancy is due to a decrease in child mortality. It does not necessarily mean that the average adult is healthier today by a broad measure than he was in the 1950s. In some ways he is: Doctors can now fix up joints that wear out. On the other hand, a lot of people are so heavy that they wear their joints out faster.
I dunno. Weight control is like vegetable gardens healthy school lunches anti litter re decorating the White House literacy . More of a First Lady type job. But Mrs Biden has a 24/7 job as her husband’s nurse and paramedic. A VP can be a woman. But it’s really not a womanish position.
Also there’s a fat peoples liberation movement. Being funded by government and foundation grants. Of course. They’re trying to become an oppressed abused and discriminated against minority Just as gay White men did 50 years ago.
Plus there’s the third rail That Must Not Be Touched. Black women are the fattest if all demographics Fat shaming will soon become a hate crime. Like touching a black women’s hair. Or chatting that your toddler is growing bigger. Or this is a bigger snow fall than last week. I believe there’s a term for fat pride but I forget.
Speaking of obese; they’re beginning to look like skinny Jack Sprat who could eat no fat and his wife who could eat no lean.
Perhaps she has an apiary?
Big time. I’m not a Covid denier, but I think our response has been ridiculously over-proportionate to the risk. (I might add that I am 62 and tested positive back in the spring.)
I was getting a summer checkup from my family doc, a reasonable fella who schooled in a flyover state, and we exchanged views on the pandemic. I was surprised to hear him say it was real, it was serious, and he had lost three patients to it (also, that it’s a rather awful way to go). Upon further questioning, all three were seniors, and all three were seriously overweight. He told me the #1 factor in Covid health risk was obesity, no question about it.
And it’s the third rail of Covid discussion; we can’t be telling everyone that being 30 over is a health risk while simultaneously displaying enormously overweight body images on commercials and telling everyone to love their bodies as they are.
“Lipocracy”, that’s your winner.
Everyone is aware of what “Liposuction” is, so they should be able to tease out the rest.
It could be used for a great campaign slogan For Biden and his crew in 2022….
“Kakocracy, Gerontocracy, Lipocracy or death!!!”
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
Good God man. I’m in awe of your narrative ability, and am almost reconsidering my lifelong penchant for making fun of fat people.
Ron should definitely give you a column.
Losing your weight is not such an easy task when you’re middle aged or more. Just ask Oprah and John Derbyshire …
Judging from swimming pools, the group with the highest incidence of obesity – black women – seems to be the most proud of their appearance. Who knew they even made orange thongs in XXXL?
How in the world could Kamala possibly convince obese women whose self-esteem is so high that they dress like strippers at neighborhood pools that they might want to lose some weight?
I am not too enthusiastic about Ivermectin, but let’s not be dogmatic:
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/antiparasitic-drug-reduces-covid-19-infection-exclusive-658949
Sheba researcher: Antiparasitic drug reduces length of COVID-19 infection
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
He started his talk by saying, "I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol."
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, "no one knows why"?
My theory is the President Eisenhower's heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember "poly-unsaturated margarine"?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950's selves?Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @AceDeuce
Anyone here remember Thomas Moore and his infamous article in Atlantic expressing cholesterol skepticism?
Yes.
He started his talk by saying, “I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol.”
Statins were supposed to be so magically magic that proposals were made to put them in the water supply. Fortunately, sanity prevailed. When statins went off patent, a strange thing happened: they became less effective. At least, that’s what the medical studies showed. While on patent, ginormous efficacy! Off patent, eh, not so much. Probably just a coincidence, right?
And our resident Pharma shills wonder why some people are skeptical of DrugCo. But I bet they would not take Vioxx.
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
The actual Framingham data collection was good science. Take every thing, every thing that is known about a group of people and collect it. The interpretation of that data was not always even science at all. Since cholesterol is a precursor for sex hormones, the elevation of the lipid is arguably more of a symptom of another problem than a “disease”, for example. Consider the role of iron and glucose – bacteria need iron to reproduce, all human cells including cancer cells need iron and glucose for proliferation. The association between high blood sugar and many bad things is known, but not “known” very loudly for some reason or other.
Should middle aged men eat iron-fortified sugar bomb cereal for breakfast? Or something else?
About 10 years ago I found online a reference to the Framingham data, and discovered that long-term risk of cardiac event for men with higher cholesterol was almost exactly the same as “married to a college graduate”. Something about domestic conflict and blood pressure, perhaps? Nah, couldn’t be.
Health is too important to be left to government drones. Especially when the government is in the process of just giving up on basic public health measures. Like “quarantine the sick”. That used to standard back when disease like diptheria, typhoid, yellow fever, etc. were a problem. Nobody 100 years ago would have decided to quarantine the entire population.
Kamelface doesn’t have jobs, she gives them.
Or is this all simply speculation?
Furthermore, leaving aside the affected claims of revulsion, can a woman who never had any children be a MILF if a guy could stand That Laugh?Replies: @Sick of Orcs
Great analogy. I can hear her saying to Biden chief of staff Ron Klain, “I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says…like dumb… I’m smart and I want respect!”
she is such a mediocrity
I had the wrong mindset when I was taught some Latin while young and, unlike the memorious Boris Johnson, I know no Greek but I think there IS a possible word to describe rule by the obese:
ObesocracyReplies: @kaganovitch, @TWS
Unless she was a power lifter, she was grossly overweight. She inherited the frame of her brother but it took Omar the tent maker to cover her in acres of fabric.
According to America's newspaper of record, Michelle gained an enormous amount of weight in the White House.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Johann Ricke
So, they lied to us about broccoli too?! What’s next?
American Pravda.
True dat, but to be fair almost everyone lies about broccoli.Replies: @Inquiring Mind
Since obesity is just as genetic as intelligence, why don’t you encourage kamala to just be smarter? She could raise her IQ by say ten points setting a good example for the nation.
Maybe the congressional black caucus could lead by example and all raise their IQ by fifteen points. That would certainly encourage our youth.
More really fit, really muscular people, and lots more seriously obese people.
I’ve managed to keep myself within 10 lbs of my high school weight for several decades via moderate exercise. Decent shape, but nothing spectacular. I don’t think you see as many moderately fit people like me as you did 20-30 years ago.Replies: @joe_mama, @Reg Cæsar, @AKAHorace
Very good comment. It is true that we have more obese people compared to 50 years ago, but there are more people who run marathons at a wider age range and more anorexics. I am not sure if there are more body builders, but the ones of today are more muscular.
Combined with range of races, tolerance of dress styles (or lack of style) and popularity of tatooing and piercing, a time traveller from the 1950s would feel like they were at a trip to the zoo.
A watershed moment in my 1960s youth:
We had one kid in our neighborhood, Rob, who was overweight when we were 10, 11 years old. The rest of us were stick figures at that age. Rob was the butt of many jokes. One day, a few of us went over to the kid’s house to see if he wanted to play. His mom met us at the door and told us he wasn’t home … but as long as we were there she really read us the riot act about how awful we were to Rob, and how cruel it was for us to mock him. She told us Rob tried not to let on to us kids, but he was really hurt by it. And we all liked Rob; frankly, we didn’t mean anything by it.
And even my 11-year-old brain was able to process this admonishment and think, you know, she’s right. And I swear, I’ve never made fun of anyone’s looks since.
But, anyway … great story, dude. My point is that Rob wasn’t nearly as fat as half the kids I see now. What is the matter with parents?
Just finished Mamhunter (86), is there a more perfect film from the point of view of color? How many 90s products (X-Files, Twin Peaks, etc) are directly dependent on Manhunter?
INNA GODDA DA VIDA BABY
If they were worried about our "health", trying to reducing obesity, regardless of its effects on "covid", and reducing the promotion of unhealthy processed foods, would be better for society than any current measure against "covid".
But they won't go there, because, they don't really care. It's not about health. It was never about health.Replies: @J.Ross
You can do this with every single lie.
Communicable disease? Open the borders!
People gathering anyway? My group is virus-proof but your group are super-spreaders!
The tests don’t work (golly, they sure shouldn’t, their inventor said so), but even after admitting they don’t work, we’ll keep using them.
Masks? No. Yes. Two. One. No. Yes.
A porn star using a laughable methodology said your out-of-copyright drug is, like, no good, man.
The virus can’t get you if you go on vacation in Mexico because it expects you at home.
The spouse just returned from Atlanta, visiting the city and some nearby places in SC. He said, “you haven’t seen obesity.”
Now here in CA we have LOTS of obesity, but apparently the south is a whole nother level.
A comment was made the other day about a middle America state (OH?) to the effect that there is no pressure to be thin there. Is this the problem? Nobody cares about thin anymore so everybody just gets fat?
I'll be happy to see weight loss, honestly. Forget the hats and suits.Replies: @Mike Tre, @Lurker
Friend of mine worked in merchant banks in London up until the early 2000s, he said you could always spot the guy who had come in to fix the photocopier – he would be the only one wearing a suit.
She was banging state representatives two at a time! Lobbyists could get a call back! Whatsa madder witchoo??
Fried chicken tikka.
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
Best comment ever!
Under every ugly, stupid tattoo should read, “Ask me about my divorced parents.”
That was another in an endless series of anonymously sourced Trump hit quotes.
When it comes to Trump show the tape or it didn’t happen.
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
Thanks for weighing in with your POV. 😀
You are a real gem. Seriously.
It's good to be a gem, although I suppose I should spend more time in the gym.
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
I believe the Greek word is “Lipocracy”
Lipos being Greek for fat.
Although “Adipocracy” sounds better. From the Latin.
I believe this month’s proper terminology for woman is “ assigned female at birth “.
But seriously, if 30-40% of the electorate is overweight, then hectoring them to get in shape can be a dicey proposition.
The Greeks had many "ocracy" nouns to describe being ruled by various types of people.
What would be the word for "rule by fat people"?Replies: @SFG, @S. Anonyia, @Billy Corr, @black dog, @Boaty, @Elsewhere
Based on some searching on Wiktionary, I think it properly should be either chontrocracy or pachyocracy. The second one has the advantage that people have heard of the pachy morpheme in the word pachyderm.
Harry, perhaps Hildabeast would make an appropriate spokeswoman:
https://flic.kr/p/2mjjXZ5
Does she not still carry quite a bit weight with the party?Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Alden
Fat lady clothes sizes are called Woman’s X Woman’s XX. And for the truly humungous, Woman’s XXX. Enough fabric in a simple dress for a queen size bed sheet
I think that sweatshirt’s a Woman’s XX and she doesn’t want to admit she’s grown to Woman’s XXX You see a lot of women bulging out of regular women’s size 16 or 18 clothes. It’s because they need to buy Woman’s X that fits. But don’t want to humiliate themselves by admitting it.
Heaven forbid she should get any sunlight. What is she, a vampire?
Bill looks like the proper, mouth-breathing hick he always has been. When the CIA and Fulbright enlist you, you can go anywhere.
He started his talk by saying, "I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol."
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, "no one knows why"?
My theory is the President Eisenhower's heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember "poly-unsaturated margarine"?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950's selves?Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @AceDeuce
Obama was/is a smoker too. Kool Menthols I think.
Well done, IJ. This is going to be the best one of the day–and it’s only noon. (Which is good cause i want to pressure wash the rest of the lower deck. And i know i won’t be missing anything funnier.)
I am not into pop-science, but isn’t the entire calories stuff just a mythology, or partial truth?
Otherwise, meat-only diets wouldn’t have any effect. I am not saying they are healthy. But they, definitely, work for some short span of time. And how, if everything is about the amount of calories? I know about ketosis etc,, but this is not the topic. The point with the carnivore diet is that is works at all, while it shouldn’t, according to the calories-counting nutritionism.
Kneepad tester?
Vitamin D.
I searched and a couple other folks mentioned this–well done.
Say what you want about the efficacy of various other treatments. But there is this ridiculously low hanging–you bump your head on it–fruit: vitamin D. And zinc.
We know basically everyone is vitamin D deficient in winter at mid to high latitude. You’re ok if you’re wintering in Florida and go out everyday for a round of golf. But you are deficient in say NYC in December unless you are out naked sunbathing on a sunny day.
And … this is obviously much worse for dark skinned folks. Yet instead of “go to Costco and get your D” or heck a government vitamin D distribution program, we got … can you guess? … of course you can! … “racism!”.
(Note: my diet is so-so, so i take my vitamin D with K2 to avoid artery calcification. K helps direct the calcium deposition to your bones. AnotherDad recommends the D+K2 combo.)
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All that said … yeah 95% of Americans–myself included–could afford to lose 10 lbs.
Most could afford to lose 20 or 30. And a 1/3 to a 1/2 … have enough spare fat to cover the nations soap supply for decades.
We are an embarrassing people.
Nixon , as VP during Eisenhower’s first term visited 19 countries. According to Steven Ambrose ( a plagiarist , a man who invented a series of interviews with Eisenhower upon which he wrote a book that allowed Ambrose a comfortable life,) Ike wanted his VP to have a relationship as something other than a red- baiter which was déclassé even in 1950’s
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2009/summer/nixon.htmlReplies: @William Badwhite
By “red-baiter” you mean the guy who prosecuted the traitor and Soviet spy Alger Hiss?
Unfairly or not, Nixon was also accused of red-baiting his Senate opponent in 1950, but Wiki says it was her Dem rival that started it, labelling her the Pink Lady in his newspaper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_United_States_Senate_election_in_CaliforniaReplies: @William Badwhite
Bill looks like the proper, mouth-breathing hick he always has been. When the CIA and Fulbright enlist you, you can go anywhere.Replies: @donut
When I saw that picture I wondered if she might be on some med. that causes foto sensitivity .
Very well written. As Stan Adams shows, any attempt to fat shame would be instant political dynamite. Something as innocent as a 10 cent tax on large soda was used to paint Mayor Bloomberg as a Nazi. Imagine the cry of joy at Fox news if Kamala even so much as mentions Obesity is harmful to health. Heck, we have a perfectly good free vaccine to save one’s life but millions of people would rather die but take a jab. I think the best thing Kamala can do is stay away from this obesity epidemic. Too divisive and politically risky/thankless. No one ever lost an election by flattering Americans that they are all beautiful.
A lot of the Establishment believed Hiss was innocent, or at least, badly treated as one of their own.
Unfairly or not, Nixon was also accused of red-baiting his Senate opponent in 1950, but Wiki says it was her Dem rival that started it, labelling her the Pink Lady in his newspaper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_United_States_Senate_election_in_California
Texas dad strips to support masks at school board meeting
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
You write very well, Stan. I know this post is about weight loss, but we may need one to discuss depression next – never had it much before about 07:44 Greenwich Mean Time today. Just curious, your Dad didn’t change his last name to Buckalew, did he?
One thing my father and I have in common is that neither of us has the same last name as our biological father.
My father's last name is German, similar (but not identical) to the name of a municipality in New Jersey.
My last name is English, a common first name with an "s" at the end. (It's not Adams.)
My biological paternal grandfather's last name is exclusive to one northern European country.
I've half-seriously thought about changing my last name to reclaim my paternal heritage.
Fuckin’-A right.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/a2/8f/e0a28fab68348bc2e4f47486fdb6e914.jpgReplies: @SFG, @PiltdownMan, @donut, @Slim
If she looked like that I’d vote for her.
Anyway, it seems like they have been trying to find anything and everything for Harris to f-ck up, but she is so incompetent, she can't even f-ck things up. She's a non-starter.
I thought she would do better, because her optics are "MILF", but iSteve disagreed and seems to have been correct. So far, total loser.
But I think she will be POTUS within 4 years despite that...Replies: @anon
I thought she would do better, because her optics are “MILF”
No! Not even!
Now here in CA we have LOTS of obesity, but apparently the south is a whole nother level.
A comment was made the other day about a middle America state (OH?) to the effect that there is no pressure to be thin there. Is this the problem? Nobody cares about thin anymore so everybody just gets fat?Replies: @anon, @TTSSYF
The spouse just returned from Atlanta, visiting the city and some nearby places in SC. He said, “you haven’t seen obesity.”
Ah, the land of Moonpies washed down with sweet tea. Mmmm….mmm! Moar sugar, please! No, moar than that. I said MOAR!
He said, “you haven’t seen obesity.”
Yep. Doctors who specialize in treating the side effects of diabetes should definitely move to the South. They will never be out of work.
Based on his previous posting on COVID, I suspect it is the latter.Replies: @TWS
He does seem terrified of it. Most boomers do.
Maybe we could get our skinny, cigarette-smoking former President to make cigarettes cool again and drive down the obesity levels!Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
They make nicotine infused toothpicks, all the benefits of appetite suppression, none of the lung/mouth cancer that goes with smoking.
Sailer is for the next one.
For the present sad to say Maddow, DiAngelo, Oprah, Rowling, Laura Bush, BeyoncéReplies: @e
Even allowing for the fact that as Potus he wore a bullet proof vest that made him appear thick, I have seen him several times in the last couple of months and noticed he’d lost weight. I’d say 25 pounds at least. Even his face is thinner.
Makes sense. He was in that Oval Office several hours a day.
American Pravda.Replies: @kaganovitch
So, they lied to us about broccoli too?! What’s next?
True dat, but to be fair almost everyone lies about broccoli.
https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/08/jacob-blake-father-cnn-brussel-sprouts/
It is well indeed that you had soul enough to see yourself and stop attacking the Rob. In reflection I often wish I had the same self-reflection you had. Once this [let’s call him a Libra, because, hell] visited me when me and my friends were selling calendars related to a school activity about star naming and star timing, and we explained that we were selling calendars (of Hubble images, or whatever preceded the Hubble), and he said, “That’s nice, but you don’t know what it’s like to lose a father,” and ballless spineless scumbag me I buried my face in my crotch and laughed like no audience member of Richard Wife-blaster-Self-torcher Pryor ever could. I knew it was wrong and it was still the intestinally funniest thing I ever heard.
Just finished Mamhunter (86), is there a more perfect film from the point of view of color? How many 90s products (X-Files, Twin Peaks, etc) are directly dependent on Manhunter?
INNA GODDA DA VIDA BABY
Freaking Trump is two months older that the Arkansas Raper.
He started his talk by saying, "I am a policy analyst and not a doctor, but the biggest public policy initiative of our generation is declaring that half the people in the United States have too high cholesterol and need to take powerful medicines with strong side effects to lower their cholesterol."
The dude did his homework and had all manner of tables and charts to challenge the Received Wisdom from the salt-of-the-earth people in Framingham, Massachusetts who ate their customary diet and succumbed to heart attacks in the service of Science.
If I remember correctly, he showed a chart that since the Ike-induced heart-disease scare of the 1950s, the incidence of heart attacks or other indicator of heart disease has declined by half in the absence of any specific medical intervention and in the words of Mr. Moore, "no one knows why"?
My theory is the President Eisenhower's heart attacks put the American people off the bacon-and-eggs high-fat high-protein breakfasts that kept everyone thin, and we stopped eating butter (remember "poly-unsaturated margarine"?) and migrated to sating our hunger with sugar-laden carbs? We also cut way back on cigarettes, which make a person thin through appetite suppression and a laxative effect to reduce food absorption? We were all guilted about diet, but no one mentioned that Ike had been a heavy smoker?
Yes, we have gotten fat, fat, fat, but we are healthier (and until very recently) longer-lived than our bacon-eating 1950's selves?Replies: @Mr. Anon, @anon, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @AceDeuce
Ike had quit smoking–cold turkey–a few years before he ran for President, and 6-7 years before his 1955 heart attack..
The old joke among Stones insiders was that the fans all wished that they were Mick, Mick wished that he was like Keith, and Keith wished that he could be like Charlie.
Somewhat similar to the line about how Sinatra wished that he was a real Mafioso, and all the real Mafia guys wished they were Dean Martin.
Lots of people say this, but the adoption and twin studies don’t bear it out. There’s very little correlation between the adult BMIs of adopted children and of their non-biological siblings or adoptive parents. There is, however, a correlation between their BMIs and those of their biological parents or siblings, even if they are raised apart.
Modern diets and eating habits are terrible. A lot of it is based on capitalism, of course, enabled by misinformation and psychological nudges devised by experts in these fields. The average person has no chance.
For myself, I’m ‘5 “7, 137 pounds (converting from metric). Lost more than 10 pounds by going on 16/8 intermittent fasting. Ate much less rice for dinner too. High intensity interval, fartlek for cardio, and bodyweight exercises. Not pro sports level fitness, but I can hold my own against kids half my age. Heck, I can still run a faster 2.4 km than most of them!
If you can’t make any changes in what you eat, the best option is to change when you eat. Just skip breakfast.
The effect of obesity on covid is apparent from looking at country data on covid deaths. Malaysia is hit hard with a high diabetic and obesity rate. Hong Kong barely has any.
Ike needed to smoke to make it through the War in Europe, but he could handle the Cold War without smoking?
Impressive guy …
For myself, I'm '5 "7, 137 pounds (converting from metric). Lost more than 10 pounds by going on 16/8 intermittent fasting. Ate much less rice for dinner too. High intensity interval, fartlek for cardio, and bodyweight exercises. Not pro sports level fitness, but I can hold my own against kids half my age. Heck, I can still run a faster 2.4 km than most of them!
If you can't make any changes in what you eat, the best option is to change when you eat. Just skip breakfast.
The effect of obesity on covid is apparent from looking at country data on covid deaths. Malaysia is hit hard with a high diabetic and obesity rate. Hong Kong barely has any.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
I don’t disagree with what you’ve said about weight and its relationship to COVID deaths, but the reason Hong Kong has had barely any of the latter is that Hong Kong has had barely any COVID cases at all. There hasn’t been one here in over three months — to tell you the truth, I can’t even remember anymore, it’s been so long.
But don’t take this as praise for HK’s COVID policy. We are walled up in our own little prison of purity and pride right now, with our masks required indoors and outdoors, even though there are literally no cases whatsoever. I’m keeping a very close eye on what’s going on in Australia and NZ, because they’ve been close analogues to the HK situation.
Thanks. Please keep us informed.
NZ is locked up tightly. Aussies are fed up, and there may be a trucker strike soon. One of the OZ state governors is attempting to mandate vaxx for anyone who enters the state – given that there is a state line right down the middle of a town street, this is very foolish.
The bad:***Masks everywhere, inside and out, all ages, all events, everything. It's legally mandated; no choice at all; the fines for not wearing one are heavy. ***21 days of mandatory hotel quarantine if you enter HK from 'high risk' countries; 14 days if you enter from a 'medium risk' country. Only NZ is considered 'low risk'. These categories have been cunningly assembled by the public health officials: most countries with direct flights to HK are labelled as 'high risk', and if you even so much as transit in an airport in a high-risk country, it counts as being there. Right now the USA, UK, France, Switzerland, Spain, Thailand, Malaysia -- all 'high risk'. Canada, Germany, and Finland remain 'medium risk', and do have direct flights to HK, but no one expects them to retain this status long. ***Constant fear-mongering by local 'experts' and the local press. It's relentless and even crazier than anything you've heard from Fauci or Cuomo in the USA, or Herr Professor von Rumpy-pumpy (aka that Ferguson guy from Imperial) in the UK. Here are just a few examples of what Hong Kong's scientific community have purported to be likely COVID vectors: metal hooks on which bagged lunches were hung outside hotel quarantine rooms; boxes of frozen crocodile meat; a chinchilla. ***Improving vaccination rates -- except that only a risibly small proportion of HK's old people is included. Hong Kong is being held hostage by the elderly, who typically claim they are far too fragile and unhealthy to have a vaccine, even as they sprint like Usain Bolt and elbow you as they fly while stealing the MTR seat you're lowering your ass onto. This means that no matter how many younger people get vaccinated, it will mean nothing, as our experts are already telling us we'll have to continue to 'protect' our poor vulnerable selfish wrinklies for more or less ever. We're caught in a purity spiral, and the swirling just goes on and on.Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad
JPost had a good article from the head of a Diabetic Clinic saying sugar sugar sugar was a huge problem with Covid
“Can what you eat save you from Covid 19” – Maayan Hoffman
But I get the sense this nexus of morbidity is being consciously downplayed today. The idea that anyone could be held responsible for any aspect of his or her own health is increasingly radioactive in mainstream/popular culture.
Marlon Brando had a crush, “bromance” or otherwise, on Wally Cox.
So did skinny people stop having children ca. 1960, leaving only chubbies to pass on their genes?
I saw the rumors about the truckers’ strike. It’s slated for the 31st, right?
The situation here is depressing. There seems to be little public dissatisfaction with the absurdly draconian COVID regulatory regime. There’s really no end in sight.
The good:
***Pretty much everything is open, with some restrictions, e.g. restaurants can seat only 4-6.
***Schools and universities are going to be back next month, and I think just about all are committed (at least at present) to F2F teaching.
The bad:
***Masks everywhere, inside and out, all ages, all events, everything. It’s legally mandated; no choice at all; the fines for not wearing one are heavy.
***21 days of mandatory hotel quarantine if you enter HK from ‘high risk’ countries; 14 days if you enter from a ‘medium risk’ country. Only NZ is considered ‘low risk’. These categories have been cunningly assembled by the public health officials: most countries with direct flights to HK are labelled as ‘high risk’, and if you even so much as transit in an airport in a high-risk country, it counts as being there. Right now the USA, UK, France, Switzerland, Spain, Thailand, Malaysia — all ‘high risk’. Canada, Germany, and Finland remain ‘medium risk’, and do have direct flights to HK, but no one expects them to retain this status long.
***Constant fear-mongering by local ‘experts’ and the local press. It’s relentless and even crazier than anything you’ve heard from Fauci or Cuomo in the USA, or Herr Professor von Rumpy-pumpy (aka that Ferguson guy from Imperial) in the UK. Here are just a few examples of what Hong Kong’s scientific community have purported to be likely COVID vectors: metal hooks on which bagged lunches were hung outside hotel quarantine rooms; boxes of frozen crocodile meat; a chinchilla.
***Improving vaccination rates — except that only a risibly small proportion of HK’s old people is included. Hong Kong is being held hostage by the elderly, who typically claim they are far too fragile and unhealthy to have a vaccine, even as they sprint like Usain Bolt and elbow you as they fly while stealing the MTR seat you’re lowering your ass onto. This means that no matter how many younger people get vaccinated, it will mean nothing, as our experts are already telling us we’ll have to continue to ‘protect’ our poor vulnerable selfish wrinklies for more or less ever.
We’re caught in a purity spiral, and the swirling just goes on and on.
1) Are people actually wearing the masks in their homes? I figure you didn't mean this, and also, (hopefully) that is not yet monitored.2) Why in the world is it the old people there that are AVOIDING the vaccine? Do they figure this virus will never set "foot" in Hong Kong? If the young people are the ones eager to get the vaccine, the whole scene sounds ass-backwards.And here I thought they were high-IQ people over there. I guess hysteria and compliance beat IQ.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
It’s a strange comment
You have my personality but way worse.
A lot of people wash out while young, we know that. That has NOTHING to do with your life.
Your lack of ‘Get up And Go’ is inherited by the homeless Dad.
So, I virtually load a sock full of rocks, walk up to you and give you a much needed Slap Across the Face.
No one loves you, no one cares about you, you have to care about yourself…and if you can’t even care about yourself…
That’s what that comment said…it said ‘Not only do I not have the ability to care about others…but I don’t even care about myself.’
Perhaps, but my father has a "good" excuse - he's schizophrenic. He's certainly not stupid. He was quite an accomplished chess player in his youth.
Part of my problem is that I inherited quite a bit of money from my (maternal) grandfather. I've never had to get up and go because I've always had something to fall back on.
My cousin - the closest thing I have to a sibling - and I are quite similar in that respect. As I implied above, as millennial kids, we were simultaneously spoiled and neglected by our flaky boomer parents. The main source of stability in our lives was our silent-generation grandparents.
Grandpa died when I was 11, depriving me of the only true father figure I'd ever had. Throughout my adolescence, Grandma never wanted to hear about any of my problems. She would just say, "Let's not talk about anything unpleasant," and hand me some consolation money. She handed out twenty-, fifty, even one-hundred-dollar bills like they were candy.
Over time, with all of this unearned spending money burning holes in our pockets, my cousin and I both became addicts. The main difference is that my cousin turned to booze and coke; I turned to food.
(For one thing, food is much cheaper. My mother's frugality has rubbed off on me.)
Would I be better off if I were a drunk addict instead of a fat teetotaler? Maybe, maybe not.Maybe.Replies: @Randy Dazzler
I think 10 years ago — maybe even five — the associations between weight, diet, and COVID would have been all over the news.
But I get the sense this nexus of morbidity is being consciously downplayed today. The idea that anyone could be held responsible for any aspect of his or her own health is increasingly radioactive in mainstream/popular culture.
Now here in CA we have LOTS of obesity, but apparently the south is a whole nother level.
A comment was made the other day about a middle America state (OH?) to the effect that there is no pressure to be thin there. Is this the problem? Nobody cares about thin anymore so everybody just gets fat?Replies: @anon, @TTSSYF
I’ve noticed the same thing about Florida (thinner people, on average) vs. the Midwest (heavier, on average). Maybe it’s because of the beaches that more people in Florida and California keep their weight down.
I work in an office of professionals, and no one is more than about five pounds overweight. I’ve noticed that, when the men start to show a little paunch around the middle, they quit going in the kitchen except to get their yogurt out of the refrigerator for lunch. I would say that controlling one’s weight is related to self-discipline and the ability to defer gratification, which is correlated with intelligence.
Or unhappily-married ones and dysfunctional family.
There’s very strong evidence that smoking protects *against* Covid. Seriously. Studies here:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.20118877v2
https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/med-2021-0273/html
https://publichealth.jmir.org/2021/4/e27091/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1179173X20988674
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/add.15276
https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/early/2020/04/20/13993003.01116-2020
https://publichealth.jmir.org/2021/4/e27091/
In Great Britain the helmsman himself is setting the example, after his own rendezvous with death. Inspirational.
Kamala’s best jobs were on her knees.
Unfairly or not, Nixon was also accused of red-baiting his Senate opponent in 1950, but Wiki says it was her Dem rival that started it, labelling her the Pink Lady in his newspaper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_United_States_Senate_election_in_CaliforniaReplies: @William Badwhite
The establishment (no need to capitalize it) was wrong. Hiss was a traitor. The Venona transcripts proved this conclusively.
He did not.
One thing my father and I have in common is that neither of us has the same last name as our biological father.
My father’s last name is German, similar (but not identical) to the name of a municipality in New Jersey.
My last name is English, a common first name with an “s” at the end. (It’s not Adams.)
My biological paternal grandfather’s last name is exclusive to one northern European country.
I’ve half-seriously thought about changing my last name to reclaim my paternal heritage.
You are a real gem. Seriously.Replies: @Stan Adams
Thanks.
It’s good to be a gem, although I suppose I should spend more time in the gym.
The bad:***Masks everywhere, inside and out, all ages, all events, everything. It's legally mandated; no choice at all; the fines for not wearing one are heavy. ***21 days of mandatory hotel quarantine if you enter HK from 'high risk' countries; 14 days if you enter from a 'medium risk' country. Only NZ is considered 'low risk'. These categories have been cunningly assembled by the public health officials: most countries with direct flights to HK are labelled as 'high risk', and if you even so much as transit in an airport in a high-risk country, it counts as being there. Right now the USA, UK, France, Switzerland, Spain, Thailand, Malaysia -- all 'high risk'. Canada, Germany, and Finland remain 'medium risk', and do have direct flights to HK, but no one expects them to retain this status long. ***Constant fear-mongering by local 'experts' and the local press. It's relentless and even crazier than anything you've heard from Fauci or Cuomo in the USA, or Herr Professor von Rumpy-pumpy (aka that Ferguson guy from Imperial) in the UK. Here are just a few examples of what Hong Kong's scientific community have purported to be likely COVID vectors: metal hooks on which bagged lunches were hung outside hotel quarantine rooms; boxes of frozen crocodile meat; a chinchilla. ***Improving vaccination rates -- except that only a risibly small proportion of HK's old people is included. Hong Kong is being held hostage by the elderly, who typically claim they are far too fragile and unhealthy to have a vaccine, even as they sprint like Usain Bolt and elbow you as they fly while stealing the MTR seat you're lowering your ass onto. This means that no matter how many younger people get vaccinated, it will mean nothing, as our experts are already telling us we'll have to continue to 'protect' our poor vulnerable selfish wrinklies for more or less ever. We're caught in a purity spiral, and the swirling just goes on and on.Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad
I saw the rumors about the truckers’ strike. It’s slated for the 31st, right?
I think so, but I’m in flyover North America – nearly antipodal – and only started paying attention in the last few days when demonstrations in Oz started getting large.
Thanks for the update on HK. It appears to have gone beyond the “this is something that should work, let us do that” to the “we must do something. This is something. We shall do it!” stage.
The Governor of Oregon recently mandated mask wearing both indoors and outside. Oregon has a whole lot of outside, that order is not enforceable outside of Portland and maybe Salem. Several leadership consultants including Nick Machiavelli counsel against issuing an order that one knows will be ignored, but I’m sure the Gov. of Oregon is a very smart girl…just ask her. This foolishness. might even put some energy into the Greater Idaho movement.
You have my personality but way worse.
A lot of people wash out while young, we know that. That has NOTHING to do with your life.
Your lack of 'Get up And Go' is inherited by the homeless Dad.
So, I virtually load a sock full of rocks, walk up to you and give you a much needed Slap Across the Face.
No one loves you, no one cares about you, you have to care about yourself...and if you can't even care about yourself...
That's what that comment said...it said 'Not only do I not have the ability to care about others...but I don't even care about myself.'Replies: @Stan Adams
Before I respond, let me point out that, in making these (admittedly long) comments about my personal situation, I’m making a larger statement about what’s gone wrong with America. There’s a generational dynamic here – successful silent-gen grandparents raised flaky boomer parents who crapped out truly screwed-up millennial kids. The level of dysfunction and the degree of demographic collapse has deepened over time.
Perhaps, but my father has a “good” excuse – he’s schizophrenic. He’s certainly not stupid. He was quite an accomplished chess player in his youth.
Part of my problem is that I inherited quite a bit of money from my (maternal) grandfather. I’ve never had to get up and go because I’ve always had something to fall back on.
My cousin – the closest thing I have to a sibling – and I are quite similar in that respect. As I implied above, as millennial kids, we were simultaneously spoiled and neglected by our flaky boomer parents. The main source of stability in our lives was our silent-generation grandparents.
Grandpa died when I was 11, depriving me of the only true father figure I’d ever had. Throughout my adolescence, Grandma never wanted to hear about any of my problems. She would just say, “Let’s not talk about anything unpleasant,” and hand me some consolation money. She handed out twenty-, fifty, even one-hundred-dollar bills like they were candy.
Over time, with all of this unearned spending money burning holes in our pockets, my cousin and I both became addicts. The main difference is that my cousin turned to booze and coke; I turned to food.
(For one thing, food is much cheaper. My mother’s frugality has rubbed off on me.)
Would I be better off if I were a drunk addict instead of a fat teetotaler? Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe.
I read your long piece also and like it.
The first thing I would say is when you inherit a large chunk of money, it is a responsibility being passed, not a gift. Besides your own expenses, which you say are frugal, your other spending needs to be done mindfully.
Blowing it on something big and stupid is like a short circuit in electricity; it does no useful work. Being a hands on philanthropist/investor can be a worthwhile and mentally fulfilling exercise. However, it can also quickly make you jaded because as soon as you are seen being charitable or even generous, the hyenas come out of the woodwork.
One cause you can assist with is the legalization of prostitution. What the rabid churchgoers don't understand is that employing the State to stamp out sins they don't like is a much more grievous sin than that which they are trying to stamp out.
I would say that if you got involved in a campaign like that, you might just get laid a lot without having to pay for it, and you can meet a lot of women without having to buy drinks or drink yourself. (I stopped drinking half a lifetime ago.) You might just find a good woman.
You go boy!
The bad:***Masks everywhere, inside and out, all ages, all events, everything. It's legally mandated; no choice at all; the fines for not wearing one are heavy. ***21 days of mandatory hotel quarantine if you enter HK from 'high risk' countries; 14 days if you enter from a 'medium risk' country. Only NZ is considered 'low risk'. These categories have been cunningly assembled by the public health officials: most countries with direct flights to HK are labelled as 'high risk', and if you even so much as transit in an airport in a high-risk country, it counts as being there. Right now the USA, UK, France, Switzerland, Spain, Thailand, Malaysia -- all 'high risk'. Canada, Germany, and Finland remain 'medium risk', and do have direct flights to HK, but no one expects them to retain this status long. ***Constant fear-mongering by local 'experts' and the local press. It's relentless and even crazier than anything you've heard from Fauci or Cuomo in the USA, or Herr Professor von Rumpy-pumpy (aka that Ferguson guy from Imperial) in the UK. Here are just a few examples of what Hong Kong's scientific community have purported to be likely COVID vectors: metal hooks on which bagged lunches were hung outside hotel quarantine rooms; boxes of frozen crocodile meat; a chinchilla. ***Improving vaccination rates -- except that only a risibly small proportion of HK's old people is included. Hong Kong is being held hostage by the elderly, who typically claim they are far too fragile and unhealthy to have a vaccine, even as they sprint like Usain Bolt and elbow you as they fly while stealing the MTR seat you're lowering your ass onto. This means that no matter how many younger people get vaccinated, it will mean nothing, as our experts are already telling us we'll have to continue to 'protect' our poor vulnerable selfish wrinklies for more or less ever. We're caught in a purity spiral, and the swirling just goes on and on.Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad
Thank you very much for that report from Hong Kong (and your previous comment), Mr. Calvinist. It sounds indeed like the hysteria is worse than we’ve seen even in our most politically-hysterical States, such as Michigan. I would like to paste this comment in on my site, if you would agree – starting right at “The good:”, then verbatim.
Two questions:
1) Are people actually wearing the masks in their homes? I figure you didn’t mean this, and also, (hopefully) that is not yet monitored.
2) Why in the world is it the old people there that are AVOIDING the vaccine? Do they figure this virus will never set “foot” in Hong Kong? If the young people are the ones eager to get the vaccine, the whole scene sounds ass-backwards.
And here I thought they were high-IQ people over there. I guess hysteria and compliance beat IQ.
Jason Whitlock: Lizzo is part of culture of death.
We know that Ms. Harris and Mr. Brown were “an item”, but was there a kiss (a euphemism, for sure) and tell about what acts having a definition in California law were involved?
Or is this all simply speculation?
Furthermore, leaving aside the affected claims of revulsion, can a woman who never had any children be a MILF if a guy could stand That Laugh?
That rating was just for the physical. Add everything else and she's not even a "1" she's a RUN!
True dat, but to be fair almost everyone lies about broccoli.Replies: @Inquiring Mind
Brussels sprouts, bro, Brussels sprouts.
https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/08/jacob-blake-father-cnn-brussel-sprouts/
The bad:***Masks everywhere, inside and out, all ages, all events, everything. It's legally mandated; no choice at all; the fines for not wearing one are heavy. ***21 days of mandatory hotel quarantine if you enter HK from 'high risk' countries; 14 days if you enter from a 'medium risk' country. Only NZ is considered 'low risk'. These categories have been cunningly assembled by the public health officials: most countries with direct flights to HK are labelled as 'high risk', and if you even so much as transit in an airport in a high-risk country, it counts as being there. Right now the USA, UK, France, Switzerland, Spain, Thailand, Malaysia -- all 'high risk'. Canada, Germany, and Finland remain 'medium risk', and do have direct flights to HK, but no one expects them to retain this status long. ***Constant fear-mongering by local 'experts' and the local press. It's relentless and even crazier than anything you've heard from Fauci or Cuomo in the USA, or Herr Professor von Rumpy-pumpy (aka that Ferguson guy from Imperial) in the UK. Here are just a few examples of what Hong Kong's scientific community have purported to be likely COVID vectors: metal hooks on which bagged lunches were hung outside hotel quarantine rooms; boxes of frozen crocodile meat; a chinchilla. ***Improving vaccination rates -- except that only a risibly small proportion of HK's old people is included. Hong Kong is being held hostage by the elderly, who typically claim they are far too fragile and unhealthy to have a vaccine, even as they sprint like Usain Bolt and elbow you as they fly while stealing the MTR seat you're lowering your ass onto. This means that no matter how many younger people get vaccinated, it will mean nothing, as our experts are already telling us we'll have to continue to 'protect' our poor vulnerable selfish wrinklies for more or less ever. We're caught in a purity spiral, and the swirling just goes on and on.Replies: @anon, @Achmed E. Newman, @AnotherDad
TLRC–the best couple months of Iowa weather are on tap now. The corn will go from green to gold. Some sunny breezy drying and harvesting days only a month or so away. Time for a visit.
Soros-backed L.A. DA George Gascón Will Not Oppose Parole for Assassin Who Killed Robert F. Kennedy
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Savagely Takes Down Anthony Fauci In Bombshell New Book About Coronavirus Handling
What Rosey Grier has to say about all this I don't know, but it would make a fascinating subject for a needlepoint.Replies: @sayless
RFK Jr. thinks Sirhan is innocent.
I was fat as a child, fat as a teenager, fat as an adult. I'm lucky in that I have an endo-meso build - broad shoulders, long torso, muscular legs. People tell me I have that "former football player" look. (At this point there's somewhat more emphasis on former.)
I can report that I am, indeed, quite well aware of the fact that I am fat. Furthermore, I am aware that it would be a very good idea for me to lose weight. Unfortunately, losing weight is not my core competency. I've tried; I have not enjoyed much success.
I'm not a delusional "body-positive" shill; I have absolutely no interest in attempting to convince anyone that fat is fabulous or sexy or wonderful or even acceptable. At the same time, I have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone's unsolicited advice. Nor do I feel any obligation to stand on a street corner wailing, "I'm a fat piece of shit! My life is a meaningless slog! Kill me now, please!"
Given that Kamala Harris's core competency is giving head to Willie Brown, I am not particularly interested in listening to her advice about anything.
That being said, I do recognize the need to exercise, and I do make an effort to stay active. I do a lot of walking. I routinely walk for miles in the boiling Miami sun (with 100% humidity) without getting winded.
I am not convinced that I would be substantially happier if I lost the weight, based on the experiences of my relatives and friends. I can point to lots of fit people who ended up getting screwed in life.
My anecdotes and 85 cents will buy me a 30-ounce Big Gulp at 7-11 (with the app, that is - download it today!), so make of these stories what you will.
My father was a jock in high school and college, but eventually he ended up as a homeless derelict. He did manage to impregnate my mother, so (unlike me) he fulfilled part of his Darwinian mandate. (I'm his only child, so he achieved a sub-replacement level of fertility. But at least he kept the genetic line going for one more generation.) But, overall, I don't envy him.
The guy I hated, envied, and secretly admired most in my own school days was everything I wasn't - popular, athletic, extremely good-looking. He was basically a living, breathing Thor. (He wasn't an asshole, either - he was having too much fun being awesome.) He wasn't too smart, but with his body and his face he didn't need to be. The girls swarmed all over him like flies on shit. I used to tell myself that if I could trade places with anyone, it would be him. (But only if I could keep my own brain.)
He won his football scholarship, washed out of college after one lackluster season, waited tables for a few years, then died in his mid-twenties.
It was a freak accident. He was partying with some friends in a high-rise hotel room, sat down on a balcony railing, leaned back a little too far, and plunged to his death.
So, in the end, I don't envy him, either.
A friend of mine was a fat nerd in high school, then joined the football team and became a semi-jock. He partied hearty in his twenties but never settled down. Now in his early thirties, he's skinny and bald, and his sex life is about as moribund as mine. So I don't envy him, either.
Growing up, my grandmother used to chide me for being overweight, unlike my (female) cousin. Well, my cousin's kids are half-black and she's stuck in a miserable, loveless marriage. And she's porked up considerably over the years. So I don't envy her, either.
Her father - my uncle - used to chide me about my weight. He died horribly after multiple bouts with cancer. At the end he was an emaciated shell of a man covered with bedsores with a gaping hole where his jaw had been. So I don't envy him, either.
Recently, a man who is roughly the same age as my mother was telling me that his son used to be fat, but then he lost the weight and came out as gay. He got engaged to some guy but had to call the marriage off after COVID stranded the couple on opposite sides of the Atlantic. He became severely depressed while trapped in virtual house arrest in San Francisco. (Is there anything more pathetic than a blue-balled queer who can't get so much as a simple handjob in the gayest city in the world?) So I don't envy him, either.
I know a couple of people who've contracted COVID. They're not fat. One, in fact, is quite a fitness buff, and the coronavirus left him totally immobile for more than two weeks.
My mother is fat, but she's the only one of her three siblings who's never had cancer. One of her former colleagues, an avid runner in his early fifties, dropped dead of a heart attack after his daily five-mile jog.
Now, if anyone is interested in hearing more of my lovely anecdotes about the miseries of attractive people, I am willing to petition Ron Unz to replace the defunct Ask a Mexican! column with an Ask the Fatty! feature. But perhaps a Mexican fatty - of whom there are many, to be sure - would be a better choice.
I am also considering turning the gripping tale of my fascinating incel experiences into a webcomic entitled The Fat and the Friendless, featuring me and my pet Palmetto bug, Larry Koch-Roache. New York transplant Larry functions as my constant companion, imaginary friend, and occasional Greek chorus. Together, we make devastatingly witty conversation about the futility of human existence as I vegetate and rot in my dimly-lit, trash-strewn, abysmally-decorated apartment.
Well, enough of that. It's 3:30 in the morning here ... only two-and-a-half more hours until Burger King opens for breakfast! I can taste that grease-laden Double Croissan'wich already! One Double Croissan'wich is never enough, so why not buy two, three, or ten? It all goes in one hole and out the other, right?
Food, glorious food! More food! Yet more food! More! More! More!Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Lurker, @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman, @Thoughts, @sayless
“I’m fat.”
So was Thomas Aquinas. More of you to love, darling.
You called it. We’re coming for a visit in late September/early October.
1) Are people actually wearing the masks in their homes? I figure you didn't mean this, and also, (hopefully) that is not yet monitored.2) Why in the world is it the old people there that are AVOIDING the vaccine? Do they figure this virus will never set "foot" in Hong Kong? If the young people are the ones eager to get the vaccine, the whole scene sounds ass-backwards.And here I thought they were high-IQ people over there. I guess hysteria and compliance beat IQ.Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
Hi Achmed — no, you’re right, we don’t need to wear masks in our own homes — at least not yet.
In non-public offices (most people have gone back to work now) masks are also not legally required, but lots of people still wear them. The office I work in has a mix of small office rooms and open-plan desks. Nearly everyone in the latter voluntarily wears masks all day, every day. Those in the smaller rooms (which usually two or three people share) generally don’t, although there are still some who do. A woman in the office next to me wears hers all the time, even for the weeks on end her office mate was away. In other words, she was alone in her room, wasn’t required to wear a mask, and yet did so. That tells you something about the mindset here.
I think HK is unique in this largely because of the SARS outbreak in 2003. We were the epicenter for that, and it was genuinely frightening (SARS was a far more vicious and fatal disease than COVID). It was then that some people here starting wearing masks. I think lots of HK people got it in their heads that their meager actions somehow ‘defeated’ SARS (in reality, its disappearance was sudden and unpredicted), and now since HK has few to no cases of COVID, there is a sense among many here that we’re just smarter and better at beating viruses than anyone else. And in a way, they’re right. The problem is that now we’re stuck in our pretty place.
The old people thing is a bit hard to grasp. Some of it is a kind of etiolated retro-Confucian expectation that elders deserve ‘respect’ no matter what kind of shit they pull. Hong Kong is one of the few places I’ve been where young people, including teenagers, are far more polite and generally public-spirited than old people. Many HK wrinklies don’t seem to feel at all guilty about the burden they’re placing on everyone else. They’re also fatalistic, which is fine — I’ve got no problem with old people saying, ‘Eh, I’ve seen the show, I don’t feel like getting vaccinated, if COVID knocks me off, that’s not the worst way to go’. That would not be a problem if it didn’t transfer the burden of ‘safety’ to everybody else. But it does, since our ‘experts’ cannot tolerate even one positive test result for COVID, much less an actual fatality. The problem is getting old people to see this result of their decisions, and then care about it enough to do something; in a very typical East Asian mindset, they say ‘I have made my decision; it’s nothing to do with me if other people react in this way’. And from one perspective, they’re right.
By all means, quote what you like from my posts on your site.
That Oregon masks-outdoors mandate is far crazier than its analogue here in Hong Kong. HK is a remarkably crowded place, so if you truly believe that masks are making a difference, then requiring their use in packed urban areas does make a kind of sense.
The problem here is that there’s no discretion left for people’s common sense; every public area is included no matter what the actual conditions.
In Oregon, it’s just insane. Actually, no, it’s not insane — it’s evil.
Oh, yeah, I’d forgotten that one when I made my comment earlier about Michigan. It seemed too stupid to be true. About the open space – the Blue Mountains are very sparsely populated, as is SE Oregon – indistinguishable in parts from the desert of northern Nevada. I’m guessing one can’t enforce mask laws there, because you would use up a tank of gas bringing in 10 “perps”!
Thank you for the reply before, Calvinist.
An interesting question is why there hasn’t been any noticeable push to get people to lose some weight so they are more resilient to covid.
Well, it’s not as if there has been any Big Sibling nattering from the US Gov. about any “health issue” for the last 18 months. So I’m totally sure that having someone like the VP suggesting everyone lose X pounds would go over just great.
Especially if she wore a mask … no, two masks … at every appearance.
Or is this all simply speculation?
Furthermore, leaving aside the affected claims of revulsion, can a woman who never had any children be a MILF if a guy could stand That Laugh?Replies: @Sick of Orcs
On her best day in her 20s, the highest number Kamelface Harass could muster is a “6”, mostly for proper weight. Have you see her freaky, alien-looking ears?
That rating was just for the physical. Add everything else and she’s not even a “1” she’s a RUN!
According to America's newspaper of record, Michelle gained an enormous amount of weight in the White House.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Johann Ricke
Pretty obvious her so-called “fitness” was similar to Kim Jong-il’s routine holes-in-one during his golf outings if you look at side-by-side photos of her vs Sarkozy’s wife. Kim’s media people were presumably under the gun in more than a figurative sense. Whereas the liberal media is just lying to spit in our faces.
“if you look at side-by-side photos of her vs Sarkozy’s wife”
Similarly, Trump is really short if you look at side-by-side photos of him and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Michael MooreJabba the Hutt.Interesting question. I can only add that, personally, there have been 2 deaths in the last 6 months due to Covid, in my immediate circle. BOTH were morbidly obese. But it’s called fat shaming if you mention things such as this.
Not to mention svelte, if you compare him to
Michael MooreJabba the Hutt.Perhaps, but my father has a "good" excuse - he's schizophrenic. He's certainly not stupid. He was quite an accomplished chess player in his youth.
Part of my problem is that I inherited quite a bit of money from my (maternal) grandfather. I've never had to get up and go because I've always had something to fall back on.
My cousin - the closest thing I have to a sibling - and I are quite similar in that respect. As I implied above, as millennial kids, we were simultaneously spoiled and neglected by our flaky boomer parents. The main source of stability in our lives was our silent-generation grandparents.
Grandpa died when I was 11, depriving me of the only true father figure I'd ever had. Throughout my adolescence, Grandma never wanted to hear about any of my problems. She would just say, "Let's not talk about anything unpleasant," and hand me some consolation money. She handed out twenty-, fifty, even one-hundred-dollar bills like they were candy.
Over time, with all of this unearned spending money burning holes in our pockets, my cousin and I both became addicts. The main difference is that my cousin turned to booze and coke; I turned to food.
(For one thing, food is much cheaper. My mother's frugality has rubbed off on me.)
Would I be better off if I were a drunk addict instead of a fat teetotaler? Maybe, maybe not.Maybe.Replies: @Randy Dazzler
Wow Stan,
I read your long piece also and like it.
The first thing I would say is when you inherit a large chunk of money, it is a responsibility being passed, not a gift. Besides your own expenses, which you say are frugal, your other spending needs to be done mindfully.
Blowing it on something big and stupid is like a short circuit in electricity; it does no useful work. Being a hands on philanthropist/investor can be a worthwhile and mentally fulfilling exercise. However, it can also quickly make you jaded because as soon as you are seen being charitable or even generous, the hyenas come out of the woodwork.
One cause you can assist with is the legalization of prostitution. What the rabid churchgoers don’t understand is that employing the State to stamp out sins they don’t like is a much more grievous sin than that which they are trying to stamp out.
I would say that if you got involved in a campaign like that, you might just get laid a lot without having to pay for it, and you can meet a lot of women without having to buy drinks or drink yourself. (I stopped drinking half a lifetime ago.) You might just find a good woman.
You go boy!