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From the Daily Mail, passing along an article in Bild about a study of left-wing bullyboys arrested for rioting in Berlin:
Figures were compiled by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution
Of those arrested for politically-motivated offences, 84 per cent were men
The majority, 72 per cent, were aged between 18 and 29
Of offences against a person, four out of five cases were against police officers
To be fair, that doesn’t make them wrong per se.
far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration
lolzReplies: @unpc downunder, @Anonymous Nephew
I believe the term of art on the so-called “Dirtbag Left” is “failsons.”
Hillary was right about the Bernietos?
Steve,
Today Mark Steyn just referenced your recent blog post on his CRTV channel! You are getting Big League!
By the way, I’m not surprised at all. Mark is one of the few mainstream pundits who knows where globalization and mass immigration is heading. I expect him to get even more based over the next few years….
From the article in the tabloid Bild:
Nine out of ten told they were unmarried.
This supports what we already know, these people are angry about their poor station in life and they vent that anger the way they are encouraged to.
if you look at it in marxist terms their parents are part of a new class which developed as a result of the growth of the state and they riot in their class interests i.e. maintaining that large state
they're defending the big state which provides their parents (and eventually themselves) with well paid govt jobs - the anarchism is just an excuse for the violence
So the misery of failure to launch becomes externalized against a mythic evil establishment of oppressive white men.
That is where role models, common sense and leadership come into the picture. Cutting through the media and lefty bias is like cutting a Gordian knot when you have the right weapon and the will to deploy it.
Not they're barking up the right tree or anything, but there are definitely some men keeping them down.
in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats
far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of…immigration
lolz
But... the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.Replies: @anon
To be fair, the rate of adult children living with their parents tends to be higher in Europe in general, along with the rate of young adult unemployment.
What percentage of all Berlin men 18-29 don’t live with their parents?
Nein?
possible sampling bias – these are just the losers who got caught.
There was a list of the 200-some people arrested in DC over the inauguration that included their ages and town of residence. It wasn’t quite dispositive because the charges weren’t listed, and some people arrested for civil disobedience may have slipped in. But in general, impressionistically:
* The mode for age was about 25
* Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
* Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
* Geographically diverse
* A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sample
I suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they’re all grad students.
The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I’d expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/
- college towns, kids of upper middle class academics
No but it shows they have very bad life strategies and probably spent way too much time protesting and ingesting drugs rather than learning a useful skill that could have gotten them a decent job and made something of themselves. Instead they followed insane political hacks who had life time sinecures in politics or academia to their detriment.
* Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
* Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
* Geographically diverse
* A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sampleI suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they're all grad students.The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I'd expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/Replies: @Boomstick, @anon
Also, at age 25 they would have been 17 when Obama came into office, so all their adult lives have been hope & changey. Maybe they committed to their personal identities to leftism as adolescents under Bush II.
doesn’t it also apply to members of altright.
however antifa are from that segment of the population whose well-paid govt job is built on getting the votes of poor people
so the antifa "class" gain from the mass immigration of poor people even though it also causes them housing problems so it's more 50/50
That failure to launch problem will continue due to social inertia. Too many young men discouraged from college, fewer jobs, all-around demonization by the media. When they get a daily ration of male-bashing (rape culture, Haven Monahan look-alike, evil patriarch in training, ad infinitum ad nauseum) too many will start to believe the BS.
That is where role models, common sense and leadership come into the picture. Cutting through the media and lefty bias is like cutting a Gordian knot when you have the right weapon and the will to deploy it.
No, it just demonstrates that they are parasites.
Soros bucks amplify the importance of these tiny pests by a factor of 1000³
Since Steve recently had an article about that “Der Spiegel” cover showing Trump as an avatar of IS cutthroats, and since the article we’re commenting on here also touches on German matters, I submit a link to a new and related anti-Merkel variation on the “Spiegel” theme:
Apparently the graphic was produced and circulated by the Berlin branch of the AfD party.
I’m shocked, shocked.
Today Mark Steyn just referenced your recent blog post on his CRTV channel! You are getting Big League!
By the way, I'm not surprised at all. Mark is one of the few mainstream pundits who knows where globalization and mass immigration is heading. I expect him to get even more based over the next few years....Replies: @celt darnell
In fairness to Mark Steyn, he has referenced Steve before — including his movie reviews.
I suspect it’s the HBD that scares him off — that’s somewhere Steyn won’t go as far as I can see.
It doesn’t make them wrong, but it doesn’t make them especially respectable.
Not sure just how mythic it is.
Not they’re barking up the right tree or anything, but there are definitely some men keeping them down.
No, it doesn’t. The “lives with his/her parents” thing has become a trope of character assassination, although in the latter case there never used to be anything very unusual about it (just a slight aura of sadness for the aging spinster). But frankly, for the chronically unemployed and incompletely educated, left-wing radicalism is a logical response.
Why is this surprising? Happy, content, stable people with productive careers don’t become “activists” of any stripe, left or right.
I believe the term often used to describe such people is NEET: Not in Education, Employment, or Training.
I wonder how many of them have fathers – real fathers who raised them. I understand that bastardy has become a big problem in the UK among prole whites.
This is the case for a few people I know. As someone who was 18 when Bush II came into office, I know how formative that kind of thing can be: mostly it made me completely cynical and despairing about the world. I had high hopes for Obama which he disappointed in less than two years; after the 2010 midterms his administration continued to operate in some Beltway fantasy bubble that had next to no impact on the real world. It frightens me to think how naïve someone must be if they’re 17, Obama is the president for their entire adult life, and they just take it for granted that that’s normal. The only thing we can hope for is for Trump to actually achieve some of the first real American successes since Bush I and shoot the hell out of these kids’ warped sense of reality.
If true, this probably just indicates that most young people in urban parts of Europe live with their parents. In general, I can’t see why people with liberal or left-wing political views would be more likely to be home birds.
Often young people with conservative views will live with their parents because they don’t like living in grotty flats with other young people (conservatives have a higher level of disgust over hygiene issues). Plus stroppy emotional leftists tend to clash violently with conservative parents, so they’re only likely to live at home if their parents are fellow leftists.
they usually only do it for a few years after college and then get a job
See also:
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2017/03/waiting-for-a-young-pope
Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO's The Young Pope.
I didn't pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.
According to the review I couldn't be more wrong (or so I hope!).Replies: @Romanian
far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration
lolzReplies: @unpc downunder, @Anonymous Nephew
Yes, the causes they are supporting are only going to make it harder for them to move out of home. If they want more affordable urban accommodation they should be supporting restrictions on immigration.
About a decade ago, I witnessed antifa engage in a street battle with some right wing brawlers and an army of German riot police in the Kreuzberg section of Berlin featured in this video. Antifa lit a local business on fire in protest of capitalism or something. I remembered thinking at the time just how weird these German people are with their rigid ideologies seemingly stuck in a political dynamic from the 1930s. I told my German hosts that Americans would never behave this way. Little did I realize then that perhaps Germany was actually ahead of American politics as opposed to stuck in the past.
Local residents of Kreuzberg seemed to take it all in stride with a perverse sense of pride in their local anarchists. The rioters were “keeping it real” in the mind of local left leaning yuppies. The other take-away was that even German anarchists could not help themselves from being fundamentally German. Even their rioting seemed well planned with a certain sense of decorum and frankly order. The whole exercise felt almost rehearsed and the police and antifa maintained certain unwritten boundaries so that physical injuries were limited.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2017/03/waiting-for-a-young-popeReplies: @Dan Hayes
Desiderius:
Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO’s The Young Pope.
I didn’t pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.
According to the review I couldn’t be more wrong (or so I hope!).
http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.htmlReplies: @Dan Hayes
far fewer squattable places in Europe now cos of...immigration
lolzReplies: @unpc downunder, @Anonymous Nephew
“in the 1980s they mostly lived in squats”
But… the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.
"no borders! no apartments for young professionals!"
The graphic’s been removed – I’m getting a 404 at any rate
When I grew up out in the middle of flyover country, I would guess that 95% of my cronies / cohort group were not living with their parents by age 20 (exception for those who were in line to inherit and manage the family farm).
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/wo-wohnen-linksextreme-in-berlin-die-nesthockerlegende/12898158.html
German newspaper article questioning the statistic. It notes that “not even the Verfassungsschuetz (German official “anti-extremist” body, sometimes controversial) thinks 92% of left-wing extremists live with their parents.”
The right-wing ones presumably stay at the Munich beer cellar where Hitler tried but failed to launch in 1923.
Just goes to show what a part projection plays on the left;
How many times have we heard about alt right types living in their parents’ basements?
“To be fair, the rate of adult children living with their parents tends to be higher in Europe in general, along with the rate of young adult unemployment.”
Population density is higher therefore housing is more expensive.
I lived with my parents for about 4-5 years starting when I was 27. I got out of debt, finished college, and managed to leave with a tidy amount of savings that helped me buy a house. If you have an actual plan then living with your parents is fine. It’s a stupid culture that pushes young adults out of the home before they have financial assets, marketable skills, and/or a steady job.
Something tells me that most of these protesters aren’t working towards that, however.
Protesting is a quintessentially leftist and childish (redundant) activity. Rightists should never try their hand at it.
No doubt, the parents grounded their little darlings when they found out they were arrested.
Right, it’s the “left wing” part that makes them wrong per se.
Pretty sure failure to launch is caused by an evil establishment of oppressive whitish men.
they are mostly upper middle class whose parents are in very well paid govt jobs
if you look at it in marxist terms their parents are part of a new class which developed as a result of the growth of the state and they riot in their class interests i.e. maintaining that large state
they’re defending the big state which provides their parents (and eventually themselves) with well paid govt jobs – the anarchism is just an excuse for the violence
antifa are mostly white upper middle class college kids
* Arrests dropped off sharply after age 30
* Lots of college towns listed as cities of residence
* Geographically diverse
* A surprising number of women. Not sure if this was the result of civil disobedience arrests, or if the women were less fleet of foot when the police showed up, or if the police, when given a choice, would rather take down a chick than some violent young man. There may be selection bias in the sampleI suspect there are a lot of failure-to-launch experiences after college. They get hooked up with radical politics in school, then become more radical once they exit that structured environment. Or maybe they're all grad students.The geographic diversity may indicate a fairly small cadre. If there were a lot of these people I'd expect more of those arrested to be from the DC area.http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-full-list-231-people-arrested-inauguration-riots-dc/Replies: @Boomstick, @anon
yes – you see the same pattern with things like online petitions
– college towns, kids of upper middle class academics
yes – the housing and employment crisis caused by mass immigration is a spur for the alt-right among the young
however antifa are from that segment of the population whose well-paid govt job is built on getting the votes of poor people
so the antifa “class” gain from the mass immigration of poor people even though it also causes them housing problems so it’s more 50/50
political activists don’t earn much – that’s why they used to live in squats
they usually only do it for a few years after college and then get a job
yes – although they are generally from the class that benefits from the votes of a mass poor
But... the squatters were just as radical in the 1970s/80s, certainly in London where there were lots of quasi-anarchist commune squats. Same kind of people, mostly white, mostly middle class, overwhelmingly left.Replies: @anon
yes – just pointing out the irony that there aren’t many squats available now because of the housing crisis caused by mass immigration
“no borders! no apartments for young professionals!”
yes – that used to be the norm in a lot of places
Of such are made – the Red Guards, the Khmer Rouge, the Bolsheviks, etc.
There’s a long, bloody history of the bottom seizing the periodic openings dropped into their laps by historical disruptions to seize power and status by the only means they’re capable of – ‘a fist in the face’ – simply eliminating the top.
‘Fascism of the Inferior’ – it will never go away.
And if there’s much truth to the current ‘the robots are coming’ fashion, the angry, unemployed, resentful bottom may reach its historical maximum before our very eyes.
Somewhat related:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3678852/Could-BOREDOM-explain-political-divide-Scientists-say-tedium-lead-views-extreme.html
‘Boredom breeds extreme political views’
And also:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
Summary – claims that up to half of Silicon Valley tech millionares are secretly preparing their bolt-holes in fear of mass social disruption, including the kind directed at successful types like them (and caused by their creations).
Peter Thiel, for example, is stocking up on remote New Zealand real estate as we speak. (Ironic?)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/technology/peter-thiel-new-zealand-citizenship.html
Thank you for pointing out the First Things essay on HBO's The Young Pope.
I didn't pay any intention to the program as I mistakenly though it was just more of the usual Vatican II agitprop.
According to the review I couldn't be more wrong (or so I hope!).Replies: @Romanian
I’m sorry to say, but another review (admittedly with a lower threshold for saccharine feelz) said that the show ditches the conservatism after the first few episodes.
http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.html
Thanks for the reality update and warning. In retrospect the initial episodes apparently were just too good to be true. Too bad!
Bastardy has become a huge problem throughout the West.
How many multigenerational Italian households are loser castles, full of commies? Let’s get serious. The norm in most cultures throughout history was for generations to live together, mostly for economic reasons. Steve some years ago wrote that it was a recent (Industrial Revolution) British/American-Anglo idea that every male individual, at the age of majority, should have a separate homestead. The question is, why this idea? Steve said it tends to promote empire-expansion. I say (using less fancy words) that it boosts the real estate industry. How can realtors, builders, bankers, construction suppliers, Chip and Joanna, Fred Trump, and a lot of caked-on-makeup lady real estate agents make any coin, if Guido (along with his wife and kids) stays home past age 50 enjoying Mama’s spaghetti and saving money?
Capital accumulation? That’s certainly the last thing we want the plebs to engage in, at least not across generations. Why, if they did that, they would no longer be plebs — their dynasties might compete with ours someday. No, ideally for each and every plebian a mortgage at age 23, and plenty of anti-inheritance propaganda. What, don’t you understand that money corrupts and hard work is an unlimited virtue, especially in those cases when this virtue is its own reward (meaning its *only* reward)?
The “Absolute Nuclear Family” historically was most common around the North Sea in old Anglo Saxon areas like England and Denmark.
Most, of course, are living not with both parents but with their mothers.
http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/02/papal-attraction-young-pope.htmlReplies: @Dan Hayes
Romanian:
Thanks for the reality update and warning. In retrospect the initial episodes apparently were just too good to be true. Too bad!
I wonder when/how that way of life became a kind of moral desideratum there and elsewhere. Protestant Reformation, Calvinism? It seems to be part of the ordeal of civility, which ordeal is in part conceived of as the schmertz of the modern.