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From the Daily Mail:

REVEALED: 158 million migrants want to move to the U.S. despite Trump introducing stricter immigration policies

Many left-leaning news outlets suggesting President Donald Trump’s immigration policies is scaring off immigrants

But the United States is still the top pick for migrants seeking a new home
The U.S. even beats other countries including Canada and parts of Europe
By DAILYMAIL.COM REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 19:07 EST, 10 December 2018

Despite tough new immigration policies imposed by the Trump administration, the United States is still the top pick by far for migrants seeking a new home.

Some 158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.

Actually, it’s 158 million have the US as their first choice. Presumably, a lot more would be satisfied with immigrating to the US if they couldn’t get into their first choice.

The number accounts for around 21 percent of all those in the world seeking a new home.

In a worldwide survey, Gallup found that 15 percent of the world, or 758 million, want to move, most for jobs.

So that’s getting up toward a billion when counting kids not surveyed.

One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave. Good thing there isn’t an ongoing population explosion there.

 
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  1. Actually there are plenty of Brown people here now to breed out White people in a few centuries, if not sooner. So the real game now is to stop forced integration.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  2. why can’t the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Dutch Disease

    The ongoing remittance flow into Central America tends to push up prices, making manufacturing uncompetitive. These countries are in essence "exporting" their labor, and exports of labor are crowding out other activity in a similar way to a petro-state. Further resources are often spent smuggling family members into the US, rather than on capital investment.

    Also, continuing with an iSteve theme, the influx of drug money is also probably leading to Dutch Disease. Think of how the labor economists claimed the Mariel Boatlift didn't cause increased unemployment, Miami was flooded with cocaine cash at the time.

    ---

    There are also infrastructure related concerns that prevent an increase in manufacturing. None of these countries have a railroad link with each other, and to the North American railroads. IQ is also a factor, as is previously mentioned criminal activity.
    , @unpc downunder
    The free trade system discourages westerners from investing in Central America, or anywhere else outside Asia. Why build factories in Central America when these people have to compete in open trade against smarter, more industrious, and more mercantile East Asians.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    why can’t the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

     

    Because we want stuff that actually works, even from the dollar store.
    , @Anonymous
    There's a great - and exceedingly common - misconception here.

    Nothing but nothing is more abundant in this world than dirt-cheap labor - even in your section of the USA, if you care to look.

    The point is that by purchasing Chinese made goods, the purchaser is really buying Chinese diligence, work ethic, organisation, ambition, high IQ, industrial strategy, state planning etc etc.
    , @anon.
    They have garment manufacturing, but they gotta compete with Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc. Textile businesses are the bottom tier of manufacturing.

    You need logistics to do manufacturing.

    Anyway, development economics has failed to find the secret sauce to turn a shithole into a developed economy.

    , @BB753
    Lack of infrastructure such as reliable energy supply, safe roads and modern railways, shitty airports and most of all lack of a disciplined, skilled, motivated and high IQ workforce.
    , @Anonymous
    You need decent workers t0 manufacture at the rate and volume of modern consumption. Mestizo Che Guevara-types and their dull indio charges are bad for business.
  3. I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?
     
    There's even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create "development zones" run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always 'thank' us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.
    , @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmLNEGTk6k
    , @Anon
    Before we get to the Sub-Saharans, important to recall the Arabs of North Africa in their path. All five North African countries are rather unstable, with Morocco being the most stable. That's the existing problem for Europe, and it could get worse.

    The EU is probably content to farm out border control on the Sahara to the North African countries. When Algeria uses lethal force on a migrant caravan, it scarcely attracts notice in the West. But one Alt-Right camgirl shooting a flaregun at a boat went viral.

    Gaddafi was embarking on major infrastructure plans before he was removed from power, which were employing a number of sub-Saharans. Convering the desert in solar power could be a way of providing the jobs that the locals want, while providing virtue signal electricity to Europe.
    , @Anonymous
    In retrospect, 'colonialism', (in this context meaning the administration and occupation of alien lands, rather than the original Roman sense), was one of the biggest disasters ever to befall the white race.

    It is as demeaning to the 'colonizer' as it is to the 'colonized'.
    , @Bill Jones
    I was in The Gambia (A racist colonialist usage I've been told by my SJW betters) forty years ago and told several times that we English need to recolonize.
    , @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap
  4. 158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.

    “Build the Wall or lose America” — Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:

    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. […] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration…He’s not doing it.” — Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    • Replies: @nsa
    Coulter: "Border Wall Construction Update: Zero Miles In Two Years".
    Wrong, Ann. The American public has paid for miles and miles of completed big beautiful border wall.....in Izzyville, of course. Trumpstein has delivered bigly for his sponsors, who must be laughing their asses off at the gullible white trash deplorables waiting with mouths agape for their promised wall, curbs on immigration, eviction of illegals, banning of birthright citizenship, etc, etc. Trumpstein is best thought of as a Judas Goat, leading the bleating white trash sheeple into the diversity abattoir to a cultural death while he is allowed to survive another day. The old fraud will never be impeached as long as he continues to deliver for the tribe.......
    , @Wilkey
    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good."

    And why would he?

    There are two sides to the Republican Party - the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich, and the middle class, which (mostly) wants lower immigration.

    Trump got elected. The rich got what they wanted immediately - lower taxes. So what do we have left to haggle with in order to get lower immigration? Even lower taxes for the rich.

    Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first "conservative" thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.
    , @dvorak

    Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive.
     
    Come January, two of our three leaders in Washington will be people suffering from readily-apparent age-related cognitive decline (Trump and Pelosi). Not the first time the disabled were in charge, but in the past it was alcoholism not dementia.
    , @IHTG
    My guess is that the "impressive things" they'd like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping "constitutional crisis".

    Now tell me, why would a 72 year old baby boomer - a man who all things considered, has done pretty well in the United States as currently constituted - want to do that?
    , @anon

    "We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration…He’s not doing it.” — (((Halsey English))), Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show
     
    another dual-citizen spouting off his "we" nonsense
    , @ic1000
    > “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive... We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration… He’s not doing it.”

    Via Dreher, an excerpt from an interview of Tucker Carlson by the Swiss paper Die Weltwoche on this point:


    [Die Weltwoche reporter Urs Gehriger]: Do you think [Trump] has kept his promises? Has he achieved his goals?

    [Tucker Carlson]: No.

    [U.G.]: He hasn’t?

    [T.C.]: No. His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things... I’ve come to believe that Trump’s role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does... I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him. He’s not going to do that.

    I think Trump’s role is to begin the conversation about what actually matters. We were not having any conversation about immigration before Trump arrived in Washington. People were bothered about it in different places in the country. It’s a huge country, but that was not a staple of political debate at all. Trump asked basic questions like’ “Why don’t our borders work?” “Why should we sign a trade agreement and let the other side cheat?” Or my favorite of all, “What’s the point of NATO?” The point of NATO was to keep the Soviets from invading western Europe but they haven’t existed in 27 years, so what is the point? These are obvious questions that no one could answer.

    [U.G.]: Apart from asking these very important questions has he really achieved nothing?

    [T.C.]: Not much. Much less than he should have. I’ve come to believe he’s not capable of it.

    [U.G.]: Why should he be not capable?

    [T.C.]: Because the legislative process in this country by design is highly complex, and it’s designed to be complex as a way of diffusing power, because the people who framed our Constitution, founded our country, were worried about concentrations of power. They balanced it among the three branches and they made it very hard to make legislation. In order to do it you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and [Trump] knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things.
     

    , @Ibound1
    We need a Wall, we need to end birthright citizenship, we need to have a new legal immigration system. Exactly how should Trump do this with zero democrat support and maybe 50% GOP support?
    Our nation is choosing and not what I want. At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House. Our African Americans want the foreign competition for jobs, our housewives want their husbands's companies to make less money, our high tech workers want their salary lowered by the import of H1B workers from India, our male students want to be hauled before a Star Chamber for going out on a date. And in return for lower salaries, a totally new demographic ruling our country, higher gas taxes, invading the middle east every two years, no rights for a college kid accused of sexual whatever, we will get transgender restrooms and we will stop being mean to women. That is what people want and they are going to get it.

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember. Gore - as insane as he is - would have been a far better President.
    , @Prester John
    Not surprised. Frankly, I never expected him to build a wall. I voted for him only to keep the Congenital Liar out of the White House and only incidentally because I happened to agree in principle with his views on immigration, the adverse effects of globalization and our overextended overseas military commitments (and as regards the latter two, nothing much has changed there either).

    Nope, not surprised at all.
  5. There are plenty of non-whites in the country now to breed out whites in a century or two. So additional immigration doesn’t really matter one way or the other. The real issue now is to stop forced integration so Whites can survive in their own communities.

  6. OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Orwellianism made flesh.

    And the f*cking BBC has the sheer impudence to attack the PRC day in day out for 'totalitarianism'.
    , @Bill Jones
    And they allowed the mass rape and sexual slavery of white children to go undeterred for fear of being thought racist. England is not just doomed (future tense) it is experiencing doom today.
    , @Charles Pewitt

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

     

    The bleacher creatures in the cheap seats surrounding right field at Yankee Stadium loved to scream interesting things at Boston Red Sox right fielder Dwight Evans.

    I imagine the bleacher creatures in the environs of Pesky Pole in right field at Fenway Park used to scream some rather wild things at Reggie Jackson.

    All in good fun, of course.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Anarcho-tyranny.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Quick, somebody call Inspector Gadget!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO9xbbaBtiI
  7. The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that “growth will solve this problem” is a lie. More growth will produce even more emigrants because SSA will go from being extremely poor to simply very poor.

    Couple this with the population explosion and it is clear that asylum as a “human right” will almost certainly have to be abolished since it is now overwhelmingly used as an economic migration route. If the mainstream won’t do it, then voters will make sure someone else will (see Italy).

    • Replies: @Anon

    The fact that a country like Albania
     
    One of my relatives imported an Albanian partner into our nice 5 eyes country.
    What a shit country, people and culture. End rant/
    , @International Jew

    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that “growth will solve this problem” is a lie.
     
    Albania? I have a better example for you: Detroit. Income per capita in Detroit, even if low for America, is way higher than Albania. And yet people continue to migrate, at a high rate, from Detroit to the rest of America.
    , @Anonymous
    The Deep State (Economist) will frustrate them - just as it is right now sabotaging Brexit.
    , @Altai
    True, it's a complex equation that involves proximity, how much better off they'd be, previously established diaspora (All those Albanian asylum seekers who never returned home when the war ended from Austria, Sweden and Switzerland now create a diaspora community and connections) and the tradition of emigration to those places. They become mentally part of the economic space. They see it as their right to go there. The precedent has been established. That's why the future belongs to whomever managed to keep their Nigerian diaspora as small as possible. Immigration begats more immigration, both through diaspora networks and through terraforming the economy to 'need' cheap, exploitable immigrant labour and generally turning the place into an atomised Dubai where immigrants feel 'at home' inasmuch as nobody feels at home.

    I'd love to know how many Fulani and Christians living near them who have actually filed asylum claims versus Yoruba and Igbo who claim to be fleeing Boko Haram in the West. The truly deprived don't leave.

  8. @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?

    There’s even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create “development zones” run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always ‘thank’ us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @Hail

    the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa
     
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1032454567152246785

    Note: Four months ago. No action since.

    Not even a statement by the State Dept.(to my knowledge).
    , @LondonBob
    Actually I think re-colonisation is a good idea. A smart fraction of Europeans and Asians running things would greatly improve standards of living and deter further immigration, as well as ease acceptance of deportees. In retrospect the old system worked well, a few years in a warmer clime would be a welcome adventure for many, but the old master servant attitude would need to be brought back, it would have to be white man's terms.
    , @epochehusserl
    I agree with this completely. I do not understand why the same academics who condemn colonialism demand that "we" do something for Africa. They want the benefits of white rule but don't want to submit to its rules.
    , @densa
    This is the perfect opportunity to step back and let China spend the next 50-75 years fixing Africa. If they succeed we can then accuse them of colonialism. If they fail it will have kept them occupied. What's not to like?
  9. Sorry guys just accept that white men aren’t going to be running things anymore

    Read Tim wise Leonard Pitts and Sabaa tahir to see that People of a Color agree that white menn reek

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Your heroes will be forgotten

    Your traditions will be overtaken

    Your religion will be relegated

    You will die out

    Get over it

    We quail relaxed you

    • Troll: IHTG, Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    LOL “We quail relaxed you”.
    Nice closing touch that; your parody game has definitely sharpened up young Jedi.
    , @rufus
    Youre gonna get a war you wouldn't believe mongrel..

    After hubris cometh the fall
  10. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    Dutch Disease

    The ongoing remittance flow into Central America tends to push up prices, making manufacturing uncompetitive. These countries are in essence “exporting” their labor, and exports of labor are crowding out other activity in a similar way to a petro-state. Further resources are often spent smuggling family members into the US, rather than on capital investment.

    Also, continuing with an iSteve theme, the influx of drug money is also probably leading to Dutch Disease. Think of how the labor economists claimed the Mariel Boatlift didn’t cause increased unemployment, Miami was flooded with cocaine cash at the time.

    There are also infrastructure related concerns that prevent an increase in manufacturing. None of these countries have a railroad link with each other, and to the North American railroads. IQ is also a factor, as is previously mentioned criminal activity.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Good reply.

    I was going to suggest that he give it a try, then report back.


    infrastructure related concerns
     
    This. "Amateurs think tactics; professionals think logistics." The mentioned IQ and criminality feeds back into the lack of infrastructure.
  11. @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    • LOL: Kylie
  12. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    Before we get to the Sub-Saharans, important to recall the Arabs of North Africa in their path. All five North African countries are rather unstable, with Morocco being the most stable. That’s the existing problem for Europe, and it could get worse.

    The EU is probably content to farm out border control on the Sahara to the North African countries. When Algeria uses lethal force on a migrant caravan, it scarcely attracts notice in the West. But one Alt-Right camgirl shooting a flaregun at a boat went viral.

    Gaddafi was embarking on major infrastructure plans before he was removed from power, which were employing a number of sub-Saharans. Convering the desert in solar power could be a way of providing the jobs that the locals want, while providing virtue signal electricity to Europe.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...
    , @AndrewR
    "alt right camgirl"

    Lmaooo!!! Best description of Lauren Southern I've ever heard
    , @songbird
    I'm under the impression that many blacks are moving to Arab countries, since it is relatively easier to find work there. Islam has a universalist side - I wonder if the tribalism of the Arabs will be sufficient protection to prevent themselves from becoming minorities, when it comes to black Muslims.
  13. @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    The free trade system discourages westerners from investing in Central America, or anywhere else outside Asia. Why build factories in Central America when these people have to compete in open trade against smarter, more industrious, and more mercantile East Asians.

  14. @Anon
    Before we get to the Sub-Saharans, important to recall the Arabs of North Africa in their path. All five North African countries are rather unstable, with Morocco being the most stable. That's the existing problem for Europe, and it could get worse.

    The EU is probably content to farm out border control on the Sahara to the North African countries. When Algeria uses lethal force on a migrant caravan, it scarcely attracts notice in the West. But one Alt-Right camgirl shooting a flaregun at a boat went viral.

    Gaddafi was embarking on major infrastructure plans before he was removed from power, which were employing a number of sub-Saharans. Convering the desert in solar power could be a way of providing the jobs that the locals want, while providing virtue signal electricity to Europe.

    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

    • Replies: @Anon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover

    No one cleaned them off for years.

    , @Richard S
    Programme the panels to periodically produce a repelling electric charge?

    https://interestingengineering.com/keeping-desert-solar-power-arrays-free-dust
    , @donut
    " how often do you have to wash the dust off them?" Cheese and crackers Sailer I can tell you are one hard core SHTF prepper .
    , @Daniel H
    >>With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

    In a low wage economy this could be a feature not a bug. Tens of thousands of otherwise unemployed North Africans can be employed , wielding squeegees and bottled water, dutifully keeping the solar lenses dust free.
    , @PiltdownMan
    "Solar panel cleaning services India" brings up plenty of hits. India's installed capacity is growing rapidly, in second place alongside the United States, behind China, even though it ranks only sixth or seventh in total installed capacity.

    Some more expensive looking automated-robot cleaning services promise "waterless cleaning" which makes sense. Many places with lots of sunshine often don't have lots of water but do have a lot of dust, so I expect solar energy generation could be an employment generator.

    https://www.sharone-microfinance.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Solar-india-1.jpg

    , @Reg Cæsar

    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

     

    ...or centuries.


    The Atacama Desert has the potential to power all of South America, and one small hotel is tapping into it.
    , @Anonymous
    Surely a task that easily mechanised.
    , @Jim Christian
    Dust kills the solar panels of all the devices on Mars sooner or later.
  15. Three-quarters of a billion people . . . Wir schaffen das!

  16. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover

    No one cleaned them off for years.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    How did nobody think to attach a little wiper arm?
  17. @Thulean Friend
    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that "growth will solve this problem" is a lie. More growth will produce even more emigrants because SSA will go from being extremely poor to simply very poor.

    Couple this with the population explosion and it is clear that asylum as a "human right" will almost certainly have to be abolished since it is now overwhelmingly used as an economic migration route. If the mainstream won't do it, then voters will make sure someone else will (see Italy).

    The fact that a country like Albania

    One of my relatives imported an Albanian partner into our nice 5 eyes country.
    What a shit country, people and culture. End rant/

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Remember, Borat was originally going to be Albanian. Until it was explained to Sascha Baron Cohen that Albanians would kill him for poking fun at him.
    , @republic
    I have been to Albania a few times. It is a criminal mafia state which exports a lot of criminals to the EU.

    Muslim lite so not much fanatics there, but the Saudis are financing mosques so Wahhabism is creeping in .

    Cheap country to live in, almost no visa controls. Wants to join the EU someday, but too corrupt.
  18. @Thulean Friend

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?
     
    There's even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create "development zones" run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always 'thank' us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.

    the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa

    Note: Four months ago. No action since.

    Not even a statement by the State Dept.(to my knowledge).

  19. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    Programme the panels to periodically produce a repelling electric charge?

    https://interestingengineering.com/keeping-desert-solar-power-arrays-free-dust

  20. Given that the current level of foreign trespassing in the global north has already sparked a pre-revolutionary situation there, there is no way the current post-war liberal democratic disposition (a rare interlude in word history) can continue.

    Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.

    Africa’s population has increased by 200 million in 10 years. Assume we could transport them all to Europe. Europe’s population would increase by 40% (and, of course, would cease to be Europe), but Africa would be back only to where it was a decade ago.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Bet on the neo feudalism. It generates tingles. Pretty much 75% of White women would love the U.S. and Europe to be transformed into Lagos north. Look how they backed it in Baltimore and Philly.

    Our only hope is war with China. Win or lose few migrate into a war zone. That is how bad the situation is ... War with China is the good option.

    President Hillary would at least need White men. Or lose to President So who would not be as bad for White men as President Harris.
    , @GermanReader2
    The Un projects that subsahara Africa will have a population of more than 15 billion in the year 2100, if the fertility stays constant. Even if every country on earth would be required to take all migrants who want to come in, other countries would be overwhelmed.
    , @Beckow

    ...Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.
     
    There is a third option that the elite currently prefers: 'don't mention the migration', pretend that it is behind us. The nerdy lady replacing Merkel said it best: 'by January we will close the migration discussion, we have learned, blabla, no looking back...'

    That is their favourite option, no coverage, no discussion, pretend that the 'maybe mistakes were made, but it is solved now'. It is desperate, but it buys them time. And then they will move on to the techno-feudalism...
  21. @Tiny Duck
    Sorry guys just accept that white men aren't going to be running things anymore

    Read Tim wise Leonard Pitts and Sabaa tahir to see that People of a Color agree that white menn reek

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Your heroes will be forgotten

    Your traditions will be overtaken

    Your religion will be relegated

    You will die out

    Get over it

    We quail relaxed you

    LOL “We quail relaxed you”.
    Nice closing touch that; your parody game has definitely sharpened up young Jedi.

    • LOL: TWS
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    LOL “We quail relaxed you”.
    Nice closing touch that; your parody game has definitely sharpened up young Jedi.
     
    I wouldn't relax if I were a quail.



    http://www.scottedelman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/FrozenQuail-300x225.jpg

    http://www.scottedelman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CookedQuail-300x225.jpg
  22. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    ” how often do you have to wash the dust off them?” Cheese and crackers Sailer I can tell you are one hard core SHTF prepper .

  23. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    >>With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

    In a low wage economy this could be a feature not a bug. Tens of thousands of otherwise unemployed North Africans can be employed , wielding squeegees and bottled water, dutifully keeping the solar lenses dust free.

  24. One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.

    In 2015-2017:
    33% of sub-Saharan Africans wanted to migrate
    27% of Latin Americans and Caribbeans
    26% of Non-EU Europeans
    24% of Mena
    21% of EU
    15% of CIS
    14% of North America
    9% of Oceania
    8% of East Asia
    8% of South Asia
    7% of Southeast Asia
    15% of the world

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?
     
    All other factors being equal, one might reasonably expect that the desire to migrate is inversely correlated with rates of growth of per capita GDP. East and South Asia have had some of the highest rates seen in economic history, in the last few decades (in the last decade or so, in the case of South Asia).

    I attended a public talk by the World Bank on poverty reduction in the Asia-Pacific and South Asia regions, about a year ago. Over a billion people have escaped extreme poverty in that region in the last decade, and countries like India, which used to be a poster child for extreme, wretched poverty, now have single digit percentages of their population living in dire poverty.

    Where life are improving for the better that rapidly, people's thoughts don't turn towards leaving home, hearth and culture for alien lands.
    , @republic
    When the Democrats get into power at the federal level they will probably start handing out free airplane tickets in all those countries.
    , @peterike

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

     

    Well there sure are a hell of a lot of Chinese in New York City, and more every day. But then again, if it's only 8% that want to migrate, that's still over 100 million people.

    We're doomed.
  25. @Richard S
    Given that the current level of foreign trespassing in the global north has already sparked a pre-revolutionary situation there, there is no way the current post-war liberal democratic disposition (a rare interlude in word history) can continue.

    Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.

    Africa’s population has increased by 200 million in 10 years. Assume we could transport them all to Europe. Europe’s population would increase by 40% (and, of course, would cease to be Europe), but Africa would be back only to where it was a decade ago.

    Bet on the neo feudalism. It generates tingles. Pretty much 75% of White women would love the U.S. and Europe to be transformed into Lagos north. Look how they backed it in Baltimore and Philly.

    Our only hope is war with China. Win or lose few migrate into a war zone. That is how bad the situation is … War with China is the good option.

    President Hillary would at least need White men. Or lose to President So who would not be as bad for White men as President Harris.

    • Replies: @Richard S
    At this late stage in the day I would seriously consider fighting on China’s side..

    And I respectfully remind any important Chinese reading this that, as a decent 鬼佬, I can be useful in rounding up others to toil in your underground genetic engineering caves :)

    Have you tried Kilbeggan? If you’re civilised enough to spell whiskey correctly, then I think you’d like it.
  26. Four continents don’t make the list; and, really since Antarctica has no population to speak of; Australia only contains its eponymous country (exclusive of islands; I realise New Guinea, for instance, is part of the same continent, geologically speaking…); and North America is where most of these people want to go … maybe South America is doing something right.

    Then, too, continents aren’t the most meaningfully granular unit in this instance. It does say something, though, I think, about the one place with a ton of white people – but white people who by and large do not embrace the globohomo agenda for autogenocide celebrated in Europe, Australia, and North America so effusively….

  27. @Thulean Friend
    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that "growth will solve this problem" is a lie. More growth will produce even more emigrants because SSA will go from being extremely poor to simply very poor.

    Couple this with the population explosion and it is clear that asylum as a "human right" will almost certainly have to be abolished since it is now overwhelmingly used as an economic migration route. If the mainstream won't do it, then voters will make sure someone else will (see Italy).

    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that “growth will solve this problem” is a lie.

    Albania? I have a better example for you: Detroit. Income per capita in Detroit, even if low for America, is way higher than Albania. And yet people continue to migrate, at a high rate, from Detroit to the rest of America.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Albania? I have a better example for you: Detroit. Income per capita in Detroit, even if low for America, is way higher than Albania. And yet people continue to migrate, at a high rate, from Detroit to the rest of America.

    Or Puerto Rico, per capita GDP: $38,000.

    Puerto Rico has a per capita income about eight times higher than that of Central America, and yet massive numbers of them have moved to the mainland. Puerto Ricans have the luxury of knowing they can probably always move to the US if they want or need to.

    Throw the borders open to all the world and there is always the possibility we could close them again. The mad rush of people into the US would be one of the biggest news events in the history of the world, and that's before even considering the short- and long-term effects on the US.
  28. @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    why can’t the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    Because we want stuff that actually works, even from the dollar store.

  29. “Would like to move” is too vague. Is it “would move if I must first walk across the Sahara”? Or “would move if the First Lutheran Church of Minneapolis sent me an airplane ticket”? Depending on the specific conditions, the “would like to move” could be as high as 99%.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer, ic1000
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    I think for these groups though it's analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.
    , @GermanReader2
    I think that if they did not have to pay a smuggler, but could just take a plane and were guaranteed admission into the welfare state of their choice a vast amount of people would come.
  30. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    “Solar panel cleaning services India” brings up plenty of hits. India’s installed capacity is growing rapidly, in second place alongside the United States, behind China, even though it ranks only sixth or seventh in total installed capacity.

    Some more expensive looking automated-robot cleaning services promise “waterless cleaning” which makes sense. Many places with lots of sunshine often don’t have lots of water but do have a lot of dust, so I expect solar energy generation could be an employment generator.

  31. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    Coulter: “Border Wall Construction Update: Zero Miles In Two Years”.
    Wrong, Ann. The American public has paid for miles and miles of completed big beautiful border wall…..in Izzyville, of course. Trumpstein has delivered bigly for his sponsors, who must be laughing their asses off at the gullible white trash deplorables waiting with mouths agape for their promised wall, curbs on immigration, eviction of illegals, banning of birthright citizenship, etc, etc. Trumpstein is best thought of as a Judas Goat, leading the bleating white trash sheeple into the diversity abattoir to a cultural death while he is allowed to survive another day. The old fraud will never be impeached as long as he continues to deliver for the tribe…….

    • Replies: @Hail

    Wrong, Ann. The American public has paid for miles and miles of completed big beautiful border wall…..in Izzyville, of course.
     
    Here is the reason they need that wall:

    Israeli Law Declares the Country the ‘Nation-State of the Jewish People’

    By David M. Halbfinger and Isabel Kershner
    July 19, 2018
     

    The USA, of course, is for everybody. = Do not need a wall.
  32. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good.”

    And why would he?

    There are two sides to the Republican Party – the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich, and the middle class, which (mostly) wants lower immigration.

    Trump got elected. The rich got what they wanted immediately – lower taxes. So what do we have left to haggle with in order to get lower immigration? Even lower taxes for the rich.

    Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first “conservative” thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.

    • Replies: @Hail

    the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich [...] Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first “conservative” thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.
     
    I direct your attention to Charles Pewitt's Trump screenplay [#219 in the Max Boot cockwomble thread]. In a climactic scene, movie-Trump is confronted and delivers this line, revealing all:

    Trump: The Chamber of Commerce required an all talk and no action strategy on immigration policy and the border wall, so did the Cheap Labor Faction of the GOP. That was the price of my presidency.
     
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    The Republican party has historically been a very pro-business political organization. The party is funded by the sort of donors who hang out with the Chamber of Commerce. Expecting Republicans to restrict immigration is about as realistic as expecting Texans to ban fossil fuel extraction.

    While the Republican party may appeal to white nativism/racism, they're not going to placate those people. Mostly because the nativists don't have any money and can't write big checks. Therefore, they are of no interest to the average Republican politician (except during election time).

    What are the nativists going to do? Vote Democrat? Since they're a locked-in voting group, Republicans just throw them some red meat around election time, once every couple of years.

    Claim you'll electrocute illegal aliens who try to cross our border. Like Herman Cain did.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfpU19hWfM

    If you want politicians to pay attention to you, you have to throw around serious cash. Like Sheldon Adelson. If you roll that type of money, politicians will say anything to placate you.
    , @Hail
    OT, an Unz Review idea inspired by the highly positive reaction to Wilkey's comment:

    Agree: JohnnyWalker123, Mr. Rational, Hail, Lot, Mr McKenna
     
    Five Agrees, an exceptionally high number. This thread has 31 comments with at least one Agree (especially from super-Agreer Mr. Rational) and Wilkey's comment has the most Agrees of any comment in this thread.

    There is value in highlighting these kinds of high-Agree-count comments*. There are some excellent comments in these comment sections and realistically speaking how many will ever see them if buried in a 300-comment thread.

    While there is currently an Endorsed Only button for individual comment-threads, it lists the 'good' in with the 'bad' and only applies to individual comment-sections:

    Display only followed commenters and comments with Agrees, Disagrees, or LOLs
     
    Here is what I think could be done (TLDR in bold):

    There is currently a "Most Popular [articles/posts]" box on the front page of Unz.com (also toggle-able to "Most commented" and adjustable by day, week, and month); There may be value in a "Recent comments [for this author and/or across Unz.com] with the most Agrees" feature that runs in parallel, i.e., independent of specific posts or articles. It would allow these comments more visibility, especially to users not inclined to browse through long comment sections.

    Steve Sailer occasionally reposts particular useful or insightful comments either in new threads of their own or appends them to existing posts for greater visibility. This is a manual way to do it; creating an automatically generated "Most Agreed-to Comments" box is a crowdsourcing way to do the same and magnifies the value to the end-user (readers) of the core commentariat's 'work' of identifying good content with the Agree button.

    __________________

    * There is also a risk: I recall that Ron Unz warning that any comments-sections onling are always at risk of falling into a popularity-contest trap of thumbs-upping and thumbs-downing (I believe he used the phrase "piling on") which would be the opposite of useful for productive discourse. The safeguards he has in place have blunted this so far. Would a feature like that proposed above cause a slide into those undesirable conditions? I don't know. What I do know is a lot of the very best comments aren't (I assume) getting the views they deserve.
  33. How often you need to clean solar panels is a function of how dusty the environment is, and the cost of labor. The paper below suggests that solar panels lose about half a percent efficiency every day in the dusty desert conditions in Qatar in the Middle East, but only 1/20th of 1 percent every day in California.

    https://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=78340

    • Replies: @Fred Boynton
    How often you need to clean solar panels is a function of how dusty the environment is, and the cost of labor.

    We'll need to import an army of "Squeegee Men" ASAP to clean our solar panels; or perhaps we could rig something up that would squirt a cleaning solution unto the solar panel and then an arm with a rubber blade attached to it could wipe the surface clean of both the dust and the cleaning solution. I'm going to get down to the Patent Office right away with this. Don't steal my invention guys, I'm going to make millions off of this idea.
  34. @Richard S
    Given that the current level of foreign trespassing in the global north has already sparked a pre-revolutionary situation there, there is no way the current post-war liberal democratic disposition (a rare interlude in word history) can continue.

    Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.

    Africa’s population has increased by 200 million in 10 years. Assume we could transport them all to Europe. Europe’s population would increase by 40% (and, of course, would cease to be Europe), but Africa would be back only to where it was a decade ago.

    The Un projects that subsahara Africa will have a population of more than 15 billion in the year 2100, if the fertility stays constant. Even if every country on earth would be required to take all migrants who want to come in, other countries would be overwhelmed.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Of course it is not going to stay constant.

    There will be fantastic crash. I can see the AfricAid concerts and NATO bombers to stop the killing from here.
    , @Bill Jones
    And they allowed the mass rape and sexual slavery of white children to go undeterred for fear of being thought racist. England is not just doomed (future tense) it is experiencing doom today.
  35. The exact number wishing to immigrate is irrelevant. It could be 10 million, or it could be a billion.

    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.

    Perhaps it will take a billion Third World immigrants to make it that bad. But if the immigrants are really, really bad it wouldn’t take nearly that many: perhaps not more than 10-20 million. There are 11 million people in Somalia. There are 28 million people in Yemen. There are 47 million people in El Salvador and the rest of Central America. That’s 85 million people, not counting all the other crappy countries in the world. You can easily assume at least half of them, handed an airplane ticket that Catholic Charities or George Soros (or China) would be more than happy to give them, would immediately come here.

    Believing that open borders won’t dramatically effect the quality of life in the United States is like believing you can throw open all the windows and doors to your house on a spankingly cold winter day yet somehow manage to keep the temperature at a tolerable level because you have a First World heating system. It as appallingly stupid thing to believe.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    We also have to keep in mind that the USA has taken in 55 million plus since 1965, the most any nation has ever taken. This has dramatically changed the USA so much that its demographics would be unrecognizable to people from a few decades ago.

    Now they want us to turn around and take in another 150 million plus. Notice they don't give a time frame which is almost as important as the number. It's the difference between taking a million/year over 150 years, or 10 million/year over 15.


    Do they think our society could handle 10 million/year without collapsing? Do they think the third world will throttle itself to a million a year over a century and a half?

    Europe has started to show signs of right wing resistance over Merkel's million. There is no way they could take 150 million without rebellion even if you could throttle it to a million/year.
    , @ThreeCranes
    Great post. Solid reasoning, good analogy.
    , @AnotherDad


    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.
     
    Super well said Wilkey.

    I highlighted the key point. I keep pointing this out myself. This idea of "nation of immigrants" in the sense of endlessly continuing immigration--as opposed to "yeah, the joint was settled by a bunch of white people who conquered the indigenous stone age folks"--inherently means that your nation will end up being the crappiest place on earth. That's when the immigration finally stops--when no one else wants to come.

    That you have adult--worse college "educated"--parrotting this "nation of immigrants!" pablum when it takes 6th grade math to understand what a disaster that *must* create, just shows how effective this nasty minoritarian propoganda has been.
  36. @International Jew

    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that “growth will solve this problem” is a lie.
     
    Albania? I have a better example for you: Detroit. Income per capita in Detroit, even if low for America, is way higher than Albania. And yet people continue to migrate, at a high rate, from Detroit to the rest of America.

    Albania? I have a better example for you: Detroit. Income per capita in Detroit, even if low for America, is way higher than Albania. And yet people continue to migrate, at a high rate, from Detroit to the rest of America.

    Or Puerto Rico, per capita GDP: $38,000.

    Puerto Rico has a per capita income about eight times higher than that of Central America, and yet massive numbers of them have moved to the mainland. Puerto Ricans have the luxury of knowing they can probably always move to the US if they want or need to.

    Throw the borders open to all the world and there is always the possibility we could close them again. The mad rush of people into the US would be one of the biggest news events in the history of the world, and that’s before even considering the short- and long-term effects on the US.

  37. I’m relieved to have you manning the walls .

    This leftest nonsense seems like a fad , a mass hysteria , satanic day care center , recovered memory , milk carton kids Amber Alert hoax . But who is going to oppose safe gov’t and approved day care centers and all the other BS complaint’s . The Left’s one and only temptation is that relieves a man of responsibility . He only needs to quiesce and all burdens will be lifted from his shoulders . The left is the realm of children and predators .

  38. @Wilkey
    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good."

    And why would he?

    There are two sides to the Republican Party - the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich, and the middle class, which (mostly) wants lower immigration.

    Trump got elected. The rich got what they wanted immediately - lower taxes. So what do we have left to haggle with in order to get lower immigration? Even lower taxes for the rich.

    Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first "conservative" thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.

    the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich […] Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first “conservative” thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.

    I direct your attention to Charles Pewitt’s Trump screenplay [#219 in the Max Boot cockwomble thread]. In a climactic scene, movie-Trump is confronted and delivers this line, revealing all:

    Trump: The Chamber of Commerce required an all talk and no action strategy on immigration policy and the border wall, so did the Cheap Labor Faction of the GOP. That was the price of my presidency.

  39. …….. and the rest.

  40. @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    In retrospect, ‘colonialism’, (in this context meaning the administration and occupation of alien lands, rather than the original Roman sense), was one of the biggest disasters ever to befall the white race.

    It is as demeaning to the ‘colonizer’ as it is to the ‘colonized’.

  41. @International Jew
    "Would like to move" is too vague. Is it "would move if I must first walk across the Sahara"? Or "would move if the First Lutheran Church of Minneapolis sent me an airplane ticket"? Depending on the specific conditions, the "would like to move" could be as high as 99%.

    I think for these groups though it’s analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I think for these groups though it’s analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.

     

    Has the Yale Daily News given them an Insider's Guide yet?



    https://kbimages1-a.akamaihd.net/cb9eb5ac-f656-4db3-813e-efd2b111381e/353/569/90/False/the-insider-s-guide-to-the-colleges-2012.jpg
  42. @Anon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover

    No one cleaned them off for years.

    How did nobody think to attach a little wiper arm?

  43. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    There’s a great – and exceedingly common – misconception here.

    Nothing but nothing is more abundant in this world than dirt-cheap labor – even in your section of the USA, if you care to look.

    The point is that by purchasing Chinese made goods, the purchaser is really buying Chinese diligence, work ethic, organisation, ambition, high IQ, industrial strategy, state planning etc etc.

    • Agree: Cato
  44. @Thulean Friend
    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that "growth will solve this problem" is a lie. More growth will produce even more emigrants because SSA will go from being extremely poor to simply very poor.

    Couple this with the population explosion and it is clear that asylum as a "human right" will almost certainly have to be abolished since it is now overwhelmingly used as an economic migration route. If the mainstream won't do it, then voters will make sure someone else will (see Italy).

    The Deep State (Economist) will frustrate them – just as it is right now sabotaging Brexit.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

    …or centuries.

    The Atacama Desert has the potential to power all of South America, and one small hotel is tapping into it.

    • Disagree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    The Atacama Desert has the potential to power all of South America
     
    No it doesn't.  It can provide energy, but not the means to store that energy and deliver it when, where and as needed.  These are radically different things which are deliberately conflated by "environmentalists" for political purposes, and by fossil-fuel interests who know that selling "backup energy" for unreliable yet "green" sources is a business they'll never lose as long as the "green" ideology rules.

    Nuclear energy is the only serious threat to fossil fuels.  This is why anti-nuclear Friends of the Earth was bankrolled by an ARCO executive, and fossil interests have been so good to Amory Lovins.

  46. @Western
    OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    Orwellianism made flesh.

    And the f*cking BBC has the sheer impudence to attack the PRC day in day out for ‘totalitarianism’.

  47. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    Surely a task that easily mechanised.

  48. One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.

    And you knew who you were then.
    Girls were girls and men were men.
    Mister, we could use a man like Hastings Banda again.

  49. Hey , Chicken Little the sky is not falling . Chill .

  50. @Twinkie

    One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.
     
    In 2015-2017:
    33% of sub-Saharan Africans wanted to migrate
    27% of Latin Americans and Caribbeans
    26% of Non-EU Europeans
    24% of Mena
    21% of EU
    15% of CIS
    14% of North America
    9% of Oceania
    8% of East Asia
    8% of South Asia
    7% of Southeast Asia
    15% of the world

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    All other factors being equal, one might reasonably expect that the desire to migrate is inversely correlated with rates of growth of per capita GDP. East and South Asia have had some of the highest rates seen in economic history, in the last few decades (in the last decade or so, in the case of South Asia).

    I attended a public talk by the World Bank on poverty reduction in the Asia-Pacific and South Asia regions, about a year ago. Over a billion people have escaped extreme poverty in that region in the last decade, and countries like India, which used to be a poster child for extreme, wretched poverty, now have single digit percentages of their population living in dire poverty.

    Where life are improving for the better that rapidly, people’s thoughts don’t turn towards leaving home, hearth and culture for alien lands.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    The prom is that in subsahara Africa population growth outstrips growth of gdp, so they are effectively getting poorer.
    , @adreadline
    Very well, you have supporting data, alright. Be mindful, though, that this whole thing is about what people say they'd do. People lie. Like that burly Lebanese former trader reminded us a few days ago, what people actually do matters more. And we can see what people actually do: border apprehension stats, visa applications, etc. so we can see economic growth's correlation with emigration. Otherwise it turns into something like ''you said, I said''.

    There's more. Here in my country, Brazil, people say they want to leave as they have never before, and this surprisingly correlates well to the stats we have. They don't seem to be lying that much, not about that. While we can be safely ignored from a international standpoint, since our population is a little over 200 million, anyone who knows anything about our recent history is aware we had a period of sustained economic growth in the 2000s and continuing past the 2008 recession. Turns out that it still didn't last. It came to collect. And that's with 2.0-1.7 kids per woman, a pretty stable population, nice research being conducted in our universities considering our national IQ, and so on.

    So yea, there is a correlation. You're correct. But a country's economy can turn around quickly, while a country's population cannot. And as soon as a recession hit, people wanted out, notwithstanding all the good times we just had had.
  51. David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245315/japan-may-migrants-japan.aspx?utm_source=twitterbutton&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sharing

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants
     
    Japan doesn't want as many immigrants as it wants.

    Japanese domestic politics remains highly conflicted on the issue of immigration. The new law is designed to fail, since the blue-collar category of the new immigration law, allows only five year work permits with repatriation a foregone conclusion, requires Japanese language skills, and require specific demonstrated skills in specified labor shortage categories.

    Migrant blue collar labor in Asia typically doesn't meet any of these requirements. Work-skill training and certification is non existent in the countries Japan might expect to draw immigrants from, although migrants may actually possess specific skills (welders, crane operators and so on).

    Also, the law doesn't specify what number of immigrants it will provision for in each of the blue collar and permanent migrant categories.

    As an aside, one of the mysteries of the economics profession is that few economists actually examine how shrinking populations should be managed, from a macroeconomic point of view. For over two centuries, economic thought has been geared towardsa model of constant population growth.

    Yet, as the problems of overpopulation and global resource depletion and climate change become ever more pressing, and major Western nations approach zero or negative population growth, this is precisely the kind of thing that the profession should be examining. How do you manage an advanced economy so that GDP per capita is held constant or grows, while the population shrinks? What are the issues? No one has touched the topic.

    My guess is that Japanese macroeconomists will go there first.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    How tragic.
  52. There’s a reason the Third World is the Third World, and it is not the lack of Magic Dirt®.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  53. Nominally OT (note: not actually OT):

    Kamala Harris (D-Diverse), possible future President, comes out as pro-Wakanda:

    Kamala Harris
    @KamalaHarris

    “We know that if we want to live in a world that looks more like Wakanda, the first step is you invest in some women and girls.” #WakandaForever

    9 Dec 2018

    The USA is a very serious country, and is definitely ready to deal with the World’s Most Important Graph in the 2020s, 2030s, and beyond. Totally ready.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    “We know that if we want to live in a world that looks more like Wakanda, the first step is you invest in some women and girls."

     

    Jeffrey Epstein couldn't have said it plainer.
  54. istevefan says:
    @Wilkey
    The exact number wishing to immigrate is irrelevant. It could be 10 million, or it could be a billion.

    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.

    Perhaps it will take a billion Third World immigrants to make it that bad. But if the immigrants are really, really bad it wouldn't take nearly that many: perhaps not more than 10-20 million. There are 11 million people in Somalia. There are 28 million people in Yemen. There are 47 million people in El Salvador and the rest of Central America. That's 85 million people, not counting all the other crappy countries in the world. You can easily assume at least half of them, handed an airplane ticket that Catholic Charities or George Soros (or China) would be more than happy to give them, would immediately come here.

    Believing that open borders won't dramatically effect the quality of life in the United States is like believing you can throw open all the windows and doors to your house on a spankingly cold winter day yet somehow manage to keep the temperature at a tolerable level because you have a First World heating system. It as appallingly stupid thing to believe.

    We also have to keep in mind that the USA has taken in 55 million plus since 1965, the most any nation has ever taken. This has dramatically changed the USA so much that its demographics would be unrecognizable to people from a few decades ago.

    Now they want us to turn around and take in another 150 million plus. Notice they don’t give a time frame which is almost as important as the number. It’s the difference between taking a million/year over 150 years, or 10 million/year over 15.

    Do they think our society could handle 10 million/year without collapsing? Do they think the third world will throttle itself to a million a year over a century and a half?

    Europe has started to show signs of right wing resistance over Merkel’s million. There is no way they could take 150 million without rebellion even if you could throttle it to a million/year.

    • Replies: @anon.
    Hey...Heard a guy on CNBC refer to Merkel's immigration blunders in a very casual way, as if it were common knowledge. The interesting aspect was that it was acceptable to call it a mistake (as opposed to a failure of the working classes).

    Also, the Libyan rescue vessels finally gave up. Article in WSJ.

    German and French elites have gotten enough feedback to skip the vacuous virtue signaling that seemed to be a requirement in any article.

    "Nongovernmental organizations that have shouldered a large part of the operations to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean have ceased all such activity, amid a sharp fall in seaborne arrivals and a crackdown by the Italian government on their search-and-rescue work.

    Late Thursday, Doctors Without Borders and SOS Méditerranée, a migrant aid group, said they would withdraw their last, jointly operated, boat from the Mediterranean, blaming harsh treatment from the Italian government over the last 18 months."

  55. @Hail
    Nominally OT (note: not actually OT):

    Kamala Harris (D-Diverse), possible future President, comes out as pro-Wakanda:

    Kamala Harris
    @KamalaHarris

    “We know that if we want to live in a world that looks more like Wakanda, the first step is you invest in some women and girls.” #WakandaForever

    9 Dec 2018
     
    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1071943841052352512

    The USA is a very serious country, and is definitely ready to deal with the World's Most Important Graph in the 2020s, 2030s, and beyond. Totally ready.

    “We know that if we want to live in a world that looks more like Wakanda, the first step is you invest in some women and girls.”

    Jeffrey Epstein couldn’t have said it plainer.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Mr. Epstein is the tragic victim of ageist, unattractive females.
  56. @J.Ross
    I think for these groups though it's analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.

    I think for these groups though it’s analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.

    Has the Yale Daily News given them an Insider’s Guide yet?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The quangos give them pamphlets like this: where to go, what to claim.
  57. @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    They have garment manufacturing, but they gotta compete with Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc. Textile businesses are the bottom tier of manufacturing.

    You need logistics to do manufacturing.

    Anyway, development economics has failed to find the secret sauce to turn a shithole into a developed economy.

  58. @Wilkey
    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good."

    And why would he?

    There are two sides to the Republican Party - the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich, and the middle class, which (mostly) wants lower immigration.

    Trump got elected. The rich got what they wanted immediately - lower taxes. So what do we have left to haggle with in order to get lower immigration? Even lower taxes for the rich.

    Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first "conservative" thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.

    The Republican party has historically been a very pro-business political organization. The party is funded by the sort of donors who hang out with the Chamber of Commerce. Expecting Republicans to restrict immigration is about as realistic as expecting Texans to ban fossil fuel extraction.

    While the Republican party may appeal to white nativism/racism, they’re not going to placate those people. Mostly because the nativists don’t have any money and can’t write big checks. Therefore, they are of no interest to the average Republican politician (except during election time).

    What are the nativists going to do? Vote Democrat? Since they’re a locked-in voting group, Republicans just throw them some red meat around election time, once every couple of years.

    Claim you’ll electrocute illegal aliens who try to cross our border. Like Herman Cain did.

    If you want politicians to pay attention to you, you have to throw around serious cash. Like Sheldon Adelson. If you roll that type of money, politicians will say anything to placate you.

    • Replies: @anon.
    The pro immigration/cheap labor crowd is diverse. Red state farmers rely on cheap illegals. They sell commodities and have zero pricing power.

    The largest, richest businesses have enough pricing power to be able to get along without it.

    And then there are those that get some benefit (higher GDP) but would go along with restriction.

    It's now a wedge issue and Republicans can whip Democrats like a rented mule until they wise up, with little or no danger of strict enforcement.

    Its more like crime than guns or abortion or gay rights. Democrats could swing righty or lefty on the issue. JP Morgan cares a lot more about their 21% tax rate than their costs for janitorial services.

    The lower corporate tax rate has awful optics, but isn't costing that much net and largely eliminates benefits of VAT or Border Adjustment Scheme or other pro export structural changes which aren't that effective and have unintended consequences.

    Regardless, JPM needs to be told that if they don't support get religion on this issue, 21% will disappear the instant Dems get majorities.

    Factoid....Financial businesses paid the 35%band got close to max savings. Capital intensive businesses were paying more like mid 20% with depreciation and various loopholes or incentives.

    The 'so what' of the comment is that business, like everything else can and must be segmented and triangulated and is far from monolithic.

    , @BB753
    Trump should leave the Republican party and run as an independent or found his own MAGA party. Unlike Perot, he can actually win.
  59. Has anybody ever written an orchestral piece around Hannibal’s victory at Cannae . Hannibal and Alexander . Two names that will never fade .

  60. @istevefan
    We also have to keep in mind that the USA has taken in 55 million plus since 1965, the most any nation has ever taken. This has dramatically changed the USA so much that its demographics would be unrecognizable to people from a few decades ago.

    Now they want us to turn around and take in another 150 million plus. Notice they don't give a time frame which is almost as important as the number. It's the difference between taking a million/year over 150 years, or 10 million/year over 15.


    Do they think our society could handle 10 million/year without collapsing? Do they think the third world will throttle itself to a million a year over a century and a half?

    Europe has started to show signs of right wing resistance over Merkel's million. There is no way they could take 150 million without rebellion even if you could throttle it to a million/year.

    Hey…Heard a guy on CNBC refer to Merkel’s immigration blunders in a very casual way, as if it were common knowledge. The interesting aspect was that it was acceptable to call it a mistake (as opposed to a failure of the working classes).

    Also, the Libyan rescue vessels finally gave up. Article in WSJ.

    German and French elites have gotten enough feedback to skip the vacuous virtue signaling that seemed to be a requirement in any article.

    “Nongovernmental organizations that have shouldered a large part of the operations to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean have ceased all such activity, amid a sharp fall in seaborne arrivals and a crackdown by the Italian government on their search-and-rescue work.

    Late Thursday, Doctors Without Borders and SOS Méditerranée, a migrant aid group, said they would withdraw their last, jointly operated, boat from the Mediterranean, blaming harsh treatment from the Italian government over the last 18 months.”

  61. @Anon

    The fact that a country like Albania
     
    One of my relatives imported an Albanian partner into our nice 5 eyes country.
    What a shit country, people and culture. End rant/

    Remember, Borat was originally going to be Albanian. Until it was explained to Sascha Baron Cohen that Albanians would kill him for poking fun at him.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @LondonBob
    The Albanian clan family system makes them very hard to penetrate by law enforcement, formidable organised crime players across Europe, as Taken highlighted.
  62. @Reg Cæsar

    “We know that if we want to live in a world that looks more like Wakanda, the first step is you invest in some women and girls."

     

    Jeffrey Epstein couldn't have said it plainer.

    Mr. Epstein is the tragic victim of ageist, unattractive females.

  63. @Dave Pinsen
    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245315/japan-may-migrants-japan.aspx?utm_source=twitterbutton&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sharing

    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants

    Japan doesn’t want as many immigrants as it wants.

    Japanese domestic politics remains highly conflicted on the issue of immigration. The new law is designed to fail, since the blue-collar category of the new immigration law, allows only five year work permits with repatriation a foregone conclusion, requires Japanese language skills, and require specific demonstrated skills in specified labor shortage categories.

    Migrant blue collar labor in Asia typically doesn’t meet any of these requirements. Work-skill training and certification is non existent in the countries Japan might expect to draw immigrants from, although migrants may actually possess specific skills (welders, crane operators and so on).

    Also, the law doesn’t specify what number of immigrants it will provision for in each of the blue collar and permanent migrant categories.

    As an aside, one of the mysteries of the economics profession is that few economists actually examine how shrinking populations should be managed, from a macroeconomic point of view. For over two centuries, economic thought has been geared towardsa model of constant population growth.

    Yet, as the problems of overpopulation and global resource depletion and climate change become ever more pressing, and major Western nations approach zero or negative population growth, this is precisely the kind of thing that the profession should be examining. How do you manage an advanced economy so that GDP per capita is held constant or grows, while the population shrinks? What are the issues? No one has touched the topic.

    My guess is that Japanese macroeconomists will go there first.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    If the population shrinks, then even in a small recession gdp may be constant or even rise. Conversely, if your population grows, then a rate of economic growth below the rate of population growth makes people poorer.
    , @Anonymous
    What do you think the rise in outsourcing and global trade - not to mention computerization and further mechanization - has been all about?

    Realistically, on a trivial year-on-year productivity increase, until 'steady state' long term population stasis or decline sets in , is all that is needed.

    The trouble is, Economist types and their political lackies just *can't* resist the urge to f*ck it all up with their insane immigrationist agenda.
  64. @International Jew
    "Would like to move" is too vague. Is it "would move if I must first walk across the Sahara"? Or "would move if the First Lutheran Church of Minneapolis sent me an airplane ticket"? Depending on the specific conditions, the "would like to move" could be as high as 99%.

    I think that if they did not have to pay a smuggler, but could just take a plane and were guaranteed admission into the welfare state of their choice a vast amount of people would come.

  65. @PiltdownMan

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?
     
    All other factors being equal, one might reasonably expect that the desire to migrate is inversely correlated with rates of growth of per capita GDP. East and South Asia have had some of the highest rates seen in economic history, in the last few decades (in the last decade or so, in the case of South Asia).

    I attended a public talk by the World Bank on poverty reduction in the Asia-Pacific and South Asia regions, about a year ago. Over a billion people have escaped extreme poverty in that region in the last decade, and countries like India, which used to be a poster child for extreme, wretched poverty, now have single digit percentages of their population living in dire poverty.

    Where life are improving for the better that rapidly, people's thoughts don't turn towards leaving home, hearth and culture for alien lands.

    The prom is that in subsahara Africa population growth outstrips growth of gdp, so they are effectively getting poorer.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    The second word is supposed to be problem.
    , @Stan Adams
    The downfall of America, as seen in prom pictures:

    The old America:
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IyWwEnFIB6o/VCNkc1xv0wI/AAAAAAAARS8/JViWOy5OABs/s1600/Carrie-1976-Sissy-Spacek-William-Katt.png

    The new America:
    https://kindnessblogdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/more-phenomenal-stories-from-orlando-two-high-school-seniors-with-down-syndrome-have-been-elected-homecoming-king-and-queen.jpg

    (The latter was taken at a homecoming football game, not a prom, but never mind.)
  66. @Dave Pinsen
    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245315/japan-may-migrants-japan.aspx?utm_source=twitterbutton&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sharing

    How tragic.

  67. @PiltdownMan

    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants
     
    Japan doesn't want as many immigrants as it wants.

    Japanese domestic politics remains highly conflicted on the issue of immigration. The new law is designed to fail, since the blue-collar category of the new immigration law, allows only five year work permits with repatriation a foregone conclusion, requires Japanese language skills, and require specific demonstrated skills in specified labor shortage categories.

    Migrant blue collar labor in Asia typically doesn't meet any of these requirements. Work-skill training and certification is non existent in the countries Japan might expect to draw immigrants from, although migrants may actually possess specific skills (welders, crane operators and so on).

    Also, the law doesn't specify what number of immigrants it will provision for in each of the blue collar and permanent migrant categories.

    As an aside, one of the mysteries of the economics profession is that few economists actually examine how shrinking populations should be managed, from a macroeconomic point of view. For over two centuries, economic thought has been geared towardsa model of constant population growth.

    Yet, as the problems of overpopulation and global resource depletion and climate change become ever more pressing, and major Western nations approach zero or negative population growth, this is precisely the kind of thing that the profession should be examining. How do you manage an advanced economy so that GDP per capita is held constant or grows, while the population shrinks? What are the issues? No one has touched the topic.

    My guess is that Japanese macroeconomists will go there first.

    If the population shrinks, then even in a small recession gdp may be constant or even rise. Conversely, if your population grows, then a rate of economic growth below the rate of population growth makes people poorer.

    • Replies: @rufus
    Except Japan, which is safe modern prosperous etc.

    When they need to, they have third children, when robotics is developing they reduce reproduction rates, like a prosperous, well organized nation.

    We need a stable sustainable population, not the entropy of endless# mass immigration.
  68. @Thulean Friend

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?
     
    There's even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create "development zones" run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always 'thank' us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.

    Actually I think re-colonisation is a good idea. A smart fraction of Europeans and Asians running things would greatly improve standards of living and deter further immigration, as well as ease acceptance of deportees. In retrospect the old system worked well, a few years in a warmer clime would be a welcome adventure for many, but the old master servant attitude would need to be brought back, it would have to be white man’s terms.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The pay-back disaster is current French/UK demographics.

    Doubtless, any badly misguided attempt to resurrect 'colonialism' will end in a similar way.

    As the saying goes, 'the only way to win this game is not to play it'.

    Significantly, certain European states which were never colonizers have higher per capita incomes than the UK or France.
  69. @Redneck farmer
    Remember, Borat was originally going to be Albanian. Until it was explained to Sascha Baron Cohen that Albanians would kill him for poking fun at him.

    The Albanian clan family system makes them very hard to penetrate by law enforcement, formidable organised crime players across Europe, as Taken highlighted.

  70. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Republican party has historically been a very pro-business political organization. The party is funded by the sort of donors who hang out with the Chamber of Commerce. Expecting Republicans to restrict immigration is about as realistic as expecting Texans to ban fossil fuel extraction.

    While the Republican party may appeal to white nativism/racism, they're not going to placate those people. Mostly because the nativists don't have any money and can't write big checks. Therefore, they are of no interest to the average Republican politician (except during election time).

    What are the nativists going to do? Vote Democrat? Since they're a locked-in voting group, Republicans just throw them some red meat around election time, once every couple of years.

    Claim you'll electrocute illegal aliens who try to cross our border. Like Herman Cain did.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfpU19hWfM

    If you want politicians to pay attention to you, you have to throw around serious cash. Like Sheldon Adelson. If you roll that type of money, politicians will say anything to placate you.

    The pro immigration/cheap labor crowd is diverse. Red state farmers rely on cheap illegals. They sell commodities and have zero pricing power.

    The largest, richest businesses have enough pricing power to be able to get along without it.

    And then there are those that get some benefit (higher GDP) but would go along with restriction.

    It’s now a wedge issue and Republicans can whip Democrats like a rented mule until they wise up, with little or no danger of strict enforcement.

    Its more like crime than guns or abortion or gay rights. Democrats could swing righty or lefty on the issue. JP Morgan cares a lot more about their 21% tax rate than their costs for janitorial services.

    The lower corporate tax rate has awful optics, but isn’t costing that much net and largely eliminates benefits of VAT or Border Adjustment Scheme or other pro export structural changes which aren’t that effective and have unintended consequences.

    Regardless, JPM needs to be told that if they don’t support get religion on this issue, 21% will disappear the instant Dems get majorities.

    Factoid….Financial businesses paid the 35%band got close to max savings. Capital intensive businesses were paying more like mid 20% with depreciation and various loopholes or incentives.

    The ‘so what’ of the comment is that business, like everything else can and must be segmented and triangulated and is far from monolithic.

    • Replies: @anon.
    And red state farmers are core constituency and have to be accommodated.

    Not to mention that no one really wants Central American immigrants. Or, at least, could live happily without them. 90% of pro caravan bloviation was based on humanitarian argument. Not much chat about crops rotting in fields,

  71. @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    I was in The Gambia (A racist colonialist usage I’ve been told by my SJW betters) forty years ago and told several times that we English need to recolonize.

  72. @PiltdownMan

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?
     
    All other factors being equal, one might reasonably expect that the desire to migrate is inversely correlated with rates of growth of per capita GDP. East and South Asia have had some of the highest rates seen in economic history, in the last few decades (in the last decade or so, in the case of South Asia).

    I attended a public talk by the World Bank on poverty reduction in the Asia-Pacific and South Asia regions, about a year ago. Over a billion people have escaped extreme poverty in that region in the last decade, and countries like India, which used to be a poster child for extreme, wretched poverty, now have single digit percentages of their population living in dire poverty.

    Where life are improving for the better that rapidly, people's thoughts don't turn towards leaving home, hearth and culture for alien lands.

    Very well, you have supporting data, alright. Be mindful, though, that this whole thing is about what people say they’d do. People lie. Like that burly Lebanese former trader reminded us a few days ago, what people actually do matters more. And we can see what people actually do: border apprehension stats, visa applications, etc. so we can see economic growth’s correlation with emigration. Otherwise it turns into something like ”you said, I said”.

    There’s more. Here in my country, Brazil, people say they want to leave as they have never before, and this surprisingly correlates well to the stats we have. They don’t seem to be lying that much, not about that. While we can be safely ignored from a international standpoint, since our population is a little over 200 million, anyone who knows anything about our recent history is aware we had a period of sustained economic growth in the 2000s and continuing past the 2008 recession. Turns out that it still didn’t last. It came to collect. And that’s with 2.0-1.7 kids per woman, a pretty stable population, nice research being conducted in our universities considering our national IQ, and so on.

    So yea, there is a correlation. You’re correct. But a country’s economy can turn around quickly, while a country’s population cannot. And as soon as a recession hit, people wanted out, notwithstanding all the good times we just had had.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    My friend from Brazil, who came here a little over a year ago, says her family left because of crime and corruption. They actually had plenty of money, servants, a good car, house. But they were in fear of their lives and property, and they hated the lies and bribery that were part of business. so they brought their money to the US, made a big investment so as to make the immigration cut, and now live in safety, but with less social standing.

    Interestingly, she hates Bolsonaro. I don't know too much about him, but I like the sound of tough on crime and increased gun rights. Maybe there's inside baseball that makes the ex-pat upper middle class dislike and fear him.
  73. @anon.
    The pro immigration/cheap labor crowd is diverse. Red state farmers rely on cheap illegals. They sell commodities and have zero pricing power.

    The largest, richest businesses have enough pricing power to be able to get along without it.

    And then there are those that get some benefit (higher GDP) but would go along with restriction.

    It's now a wedge issue and Republicans can whip Democrats like a rented mule until they wise up, with little or no danger of strict enforcement.

    Its more like crime than guns or abortion or gay rights. Democrats could swing righty or lefty on the issue. JP Morgan cares a lot more about their 21% tax rate than their costs for janitorial services.

    The lower corporate tax rate has awful optics, but isn't costing that much net and largely eliminates benefits of VAT or Border Adjustment Scheme or other pro export structural changes which aren't that effective and have unintended consequences.

    Regardless, JPM needs to be told that if they don't support get religion on this issue, 21% will disappear the instant Dems get majorities.

    Factoid....Financial businesses paid the 35%band got close to max savings. Capital intensive businesses were paying more like mid 20% with depreciation and various loopholes or incentives.

    The 'so what' of the comment is that business, like everything else can and must be segmented and triangulated and is far from monolithic.

    And red state farmers are core constituency and have to be accommodated.

    Not to mention that no one really wants Central American immigrants. Or, at least, could live happily without them. 90% of pro caravan bloviation was based on humanitarian argument. Not much chat about crops rotting in fields,

  74. @GermanReader2
    The prom is that in subsahara Africa population growth outstrips growth of gdp, so they are effectively getting poorer.

    The second word is supposed to be problem.

  75. @Anon
    Before we get to the Sub-Saharans, important to recall the Arabs of North Africa in their path. All five North African countries are rather unstable, with Morocco being the most stable. That's the existing problem for Europe, and it could get worse.

    The EU is probably content to farm out border control on the Sahara to the North African countries. When Algeria uses lethal force on a migrant caravan, it scarcely attracts notice in the West. But one Alt-Right camgirl shooting a flaregun at a boat went viral.

    Gaddafi was embarking on major infrastructure plans before he was removed from power, which were employing a number of sub-Saharans. Convering the desert in solar power could be a way of providing the jobs that the locals want, while providing virtue signal electricity to Europe.

    “alt right camgirl”

    Lmaooo!!! Best description of Lauren Southern I’ve ever heard

  76. @GermanReader2
    The Un projects that subsahara Africa will have a population of more than 15 billion in the year 2100, if the fertility stays constant. Even if every country on earth would be required to take all migrants who want to come in, other countries would be overwhelmed.

    Of course it is not going to stay constant.

    There will be fantastic crash. I can see the AfricAid concerts and NATO bombers to stop the killing from here.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    It might very well stay constant, if the western countries are stupid enough to take in all surplus Africans. Taking in large numbers of Africans in essence rewards africans for not getting their population growth under control.
  77. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive.

    Come January, two of our three leaders in Washington will be people suffering from readily-apparent age-related cognitive decline (Trump and Pelosi). Not the first time the disabled were in charge, but in the past it was alcoholism not dementia.

  78. @Thulean Friend

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?
     
    There's even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create "development zones" run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always 'thank' us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.

    I agree with this completely. I do not understand why the same academics who condemn colonialism demand that “we” do something for Africa. They want the benefits of white rule but don’t want to submit to its rules.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  79. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    David Pilling shared this link claiming Japan may not get as many immigrants as it wants
     
    Japan doesn't want as many immigrants as it wants.

    Japanese domestic politics remains highly conflicted on the issue of immigration. The new law is designed to fail, since the blue-collar category of the new immigration law, allows only five year work permits with repatriation a foregone conclusion, requires Japanese language skills, and require specific demonstrated skills in specified labor shortage categories.

    Migrant blue collar labor in Asia typically doesn't meet any of these requirements. Work-skill training and certification is non existent in the countries Japan might expect to draw immigrants from, although migrants may actually possess specific skills (welders, crane operators and so on).

    Also, the law doesn't specify what number of immigrants it will provision for in each of the blue collar and permanent migrant categories.

    As an aside, one of the mysteries of the economics profession is that few economists actually examine how shrinking populations should be managed, from a macroeconomic point of view. For over two centuries, economic thought has been geared towardsa model of constant population growth.

    Yet, as the problems of overpopulation and global resource depletion and climate change become ever more pressing, and major Western nations approach zero or negative population growth, this is precisely the kind of thing that the profession should be examining. How do you manage an advanced economy so that GDP per capita is held constant or grows, while the population shrinks? What are the issues? No one has touched the topic.

    My guess is that Japanese macroeconomists will go there first.

    What do you think the rise in outsourcing and global trade – not to mention computerization and further mechanization – has been all about?

    Realistically, on a trivial year-on-year productivity increase, until ‘steady state’ long term population stasis or decline sets in , is all that is needed.

    The trouble is, Economist types and their political lackies just *can’t* resist the urge to f*ck it all up with their insane immigrationist agenda.

  80. Anonymous[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @LondonBob
    Actually I think re-colonisation is a good idea. A smart fraction of Europeans and Asians running things would greatly improve standards of living and deter further immigration, as well as ease acceptance of deportees. In retrospect the old system worked well, a few years in a warmer clime would be a welcome adventure for many, but the old master servant attitude would need to be brought back, it would have to be white man's terms.

    The pay-back disaster is current French/UK demographics.

    Doubtless, any badly misguided attempt to resurrect ‘colonialism’ will end in a similar way.

    As the saying goes, ‘the only way to win this game is not to play it’.

    Significantly, certain European states which were never colonizers have higher per capita incomes than the UK or France.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    All countries are subject to mass immigration, history of colonialism or not. As South Africa shows a small number of higher IQ folks will have a substantial impact on standard of living deterring immigration and assisting in immigration enforcement.
  81. @Buck
    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation? Those Europeans would agree to reinvest a portion of resource spoils back into the country and bring the rule of law for, say, 50 years at which time they could renegotiate or declare independence. The Africans get to have white cargo and still live in Africa.

    Any Sub-Saharan who still wants to move is obviously a racist who hates black people.

    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain’s number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.

    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Troll: Tiny Duck.
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    LOL. Tiny Duck calling out John Derbyshire as a troll.
    , @anon
    you missed the real number though - that "The Gambia" increased its population almost 10x in the last 100 years
    , @Lurker
    Plus a non-trivial number of British West Africans are now resident in the UK and Ireland.
    , @Simply Simon
    Refer to a map of Africa circa the 1930s. Various areas were in the color of the European countries which had colonized them. The British colonies were in red, by far the major color on the map, but then you could also include India, Canada Australia, New Zealand, British Guiana, and the Falklands, and a few others I failed to name. It was called the British Empire and the King or Queen was a figure to be reckoned with. Sic transit gloria.
    , @Beckow
    If colonialism had not happened one could argue that the 22 to 200 million wouldn't happen. If we extrapolate at least 2-3 billion people living today in the Third World wouldn't be there (food, hygiene, disease control and other basics would prevent it).

    Colonialism (and slavery) were worse than evil, they were a stupid evil. Today we have comparable Western activities of searching for the cheapest possible labor anywhere in the world and the mindless 'democracy', 'human rights', etc... interventions around the world. It always backfires, an advanced civilization has to be self-confident enough to isolate itself - mixing with less advanced cultures brings it down.

    But if people are unable to control their own out-of-control and short-sighted elites - as was the case under colonialism and is today - what kind of an advanced civilisation is it?
  82. I had no idea that we have a shortage of low skilled people in the United States. With robots taking over the low skill jobs, and maybe more, it would seem prudent to avoid all immigration for the time being.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Prester John
    Automation, including the use of robots, is the 800-pound gorilla in the room. As it is, companies pay these immigrants peanuts anyway (while calling 'em "independent contractors" so as to avoid providing benefits), so why not keep the peanuts all for themselves.Why employ twenty leaf-blowers just over the border from Mejico when one robot or machine do as much or more at a much lower cost (and probably at lot faster)?
  83. @Western
    OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    And they allowed the mass rape and sexual slavery of white children to go undeterred for fear of being thought racist. England is not just doomed (future tense) it is experiencing doom today.

    • Agree: BB753, Mr. Rational, bomag
    • Replies: @L Woods
    Not nearly as much doom as it deserves.
  84. @Steve Sailer
    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I'm wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn't rain for many months ...

    Dust kills the solar panels of all the devices on Mars sooner or later.

  85. Drumpf is a total cuck failure and you whites will be replaced.

    • Troll: IHTG, Mr. Rational
  86. @GermanReader2
    The Un projects that subsahara Africa will have a population of more than 15 billion in the year 2100, if the fertility stays constant. Even if every country on earth would be required to take all migrants who want to come in, other countries would be overwhelmed.

    And they allowed the mass rape and sexual slavery of white children to go undeterred for fear of being thought racist. England is not just doomed (future tense) it is experiencing doom today.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  87. It is time for honesty among honkies.

    The White man must accept and acknowledge that the population problems of sub-Saharan Africa are a direct result of his meddling and for him alone to resolve.

    The white man’s interference with Africa’s natural population population control mechanisms of famine and epidemic is unconscionable and should cease immediately. No more “aid”.

    • Agree: Anonym, Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anon
    It's not easy to quit "aid", because aid is not what "aid" is.
    It is in reality one important part of today's well-perfumed, gilded colonialism.
    A big business benefiting a lot of non-African people, and the more powerful Africans. How do you think anyone is going to end that?
  88. @Anon
    Dutch Disease

    The ongoing remittance flow into Central America tends to push up prices, making manufacturing uncompetitive. These countries are in essence "exporting" their labor, and exports of labor are crowding out other activity in a similar way to a petro-state. Further resources are often spent smuggling family members into the US, rather than on capital investment.

    Also, continuing with an iSteve theme, the influx of drug money is also probably leading to Dutch Disease. Think of how the labor economists claimed the Mariel Boatlift didn't cause increased unemployment, Miami was flooded with cocaine cash at the time.

    ---

    There are also infrastructure related concerns that prevent an increase in manufacturing. None of these countries have a railroad link with each other, and to the North American railroads. IQ is also a factor, as is previously mentioned criminal activity.

    Good reply.

    I was going to suggest that he give it a try, then report back.

    infrastructure related concerns

    This. “Amateurs think tactics; professionals think logistics.” The mentioned IQ and criminality feeds back into the lack of infrastructure.

  89. @Western
    OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    The bleacher creatures in the cheap seats surrounding right field at Yankee Stadium loved to scream interesting things at Boston Red Sox right fielder Dwight Evans.

    I imagine the bleacher creatures in the environs of Pesky Pole in right field at Fenway Park used to scream some rather wild things at Reggie Jackson.

    All in good fun, of course.

  90. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    My guess is that the “impressive things” they’d like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping “constitutional crisis”.

    Now tell me, why would a 72 year old baby boomer – a man who all things considered, has done pretty well in the United States as currently constituted – want to do that?

    • Replies: @dvorak

    My guess is that the “impressive things” they’d like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping “constitutional crisis”.
     
    Simply declare war on the Mexican cartels and send the 30,000 man Army Corps of Engineers to build the war. The President does not need Congressional approval for new wars until 3 weeks have passed, and Congressional inaction is the same as consent to continue a war (excuse me, police action/kinetic operation).
  91. @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    Lack of infrastructure such as reliable energy supply, safe roads and modern railways, shitty airports and most of all lack of a disciplined, skilled, motivated and high IQ workforce.

  92. @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    LOL. Tiny Duck calling out John Derbyshire as a troll.

  93. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Republican party has historically been a very pro-business political organization. The party is funded by the sort of donors who hang out with the Chamber of Commerce. Expecting Republicans to restrict immigration is about as realistic as expecting Texans to ban fossil fuel extraction.

    While the Republican party may appeal to white nativism/racism, they're not going to placate those people. Mostly because the nativists don't have any money and can't write big checks. Therefore, they are of no interest to the average Republican politician (except during election time).

    What are the nativists going to do? Vote Democrat? Since they're a locked-in voting group, Republicans just throw them some red meat around election time, once every couple of years.

    Claim you'll electrocute illegal aliens who try to cross our border. Like Herman Cain did.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfpU19hWfM

    If you want politicians to pay attention to you, you have to throw around serious cash. Like Sheldon Adelson. If you roll that type of money, politicians will say anything to placate you.

    Trump should leave the Republican party and run as an independent or found his own MAGA party. Unlike Perot, he can actually win.

  94. @El Dato
    Of course it is not going to stay constant.

    There will be fantastic crash. I can see the AfricAid concerts and NATO bombers to stop the killing from here.

    It might very well stay constant, if the western countries are stupid enough to take in all surplus Africans. Taking in large numbers of Africans in essence rewards africans for not getting their population growth under control.

  95. @Tiny Duck
    Sorry guys just accept that white men aren't going to be running things anymore

    Read Tim wise Leonard Pitts and Sabaa tahir to see that People of a Color agree that white menn reek

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Your heroes will be forgotten

    Your traditions will be overtaken

    Your religion will be relegated

    You will die out

    Get over it

    We quail relaxed you

    Youre gonna get a war you wouldn’t believe mongrel..

    After hubris cometh the fall

  96. @Wilkey
    The exact number wishing to immigrate is irrelevant. It could be 10 million, or it could be a billion.

    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.

    Perhaps it will take a billion Third World immigrants to make it that bad. But if the immigrants are really, really bad it wouldn't take nearly that many: perhaps not more than 10-20 million. There are 11 million people in Somalia. There are 28 million people in Yemen. There are 47 million people in El Salvador and the rest of Central America. That's 85 million people, not counting all the other crappy countries in the world. You can easily assume at least half of them, handed an airplane ticket that Catholic Charities or George Soros (or China) would be more than happy to give them, would immediately come here.

    Believing that open borders won't dramatically effect the quality of life in the United States is like believing you can throw open all the windows and doors to your house on a spankingly cold winter day yet somehow manage to keep the temperature at a tolerable level because you have a First World heating system. It as appallingly stupid thing to believe.

    Great post. Solid reasoning, good analogy.

  97. @GermanReader2
    If the population shrinks, then even in a small recession gdp may be constant or even rise. Conversely, if your population grows, then a rate of economic growth below the rate of population growth makes people poorer.

    Except Japan, which is safe modern prosperous etc.

    When they need to, they have third children, when robotics is developing they reduce reproduction rates, like a prosperous, well organized nation.

    We need a stable sustainable population, not the entropy of endless# mass immigration.

  98. “758 Million People Want to Migrate”

    I think you got your headline wrong. It should read:

    758 Million Black and Brown People Want To Be White People.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  99. @Reg Cæsar

    With solar power, how often do you have to wash the dust off them? I’m wondering if this is a problem in deserts where it doesn’t rain for many months …

     

    ...or centuries.


    The Atacama Desert has the potential to power all of South America, and one small hotel is tapping into it.

    The Atacama Desert has the potential to power all of South America

    No it doesn’t.  It can provide energy, but not the means to store that energy and deliver it when, where and as needed.  These are radically different things which are deliberately conflated by “environmentalists” for political purposes, and by fossil-fuel interests who know that selling “backup energy” for unreliable yet “green” sources is a business they’ll never lose as long as the “green” ideology rules.

    Nuclear energy is the only serious threat to fossil fuels.  This is why anti-nuclear Friends of the Earth was bankrolled by an ARCO executive, and fossil interests have been so good to Amory Lovins.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  100. @Anon

    The fact that a country like Albania
     
    One of my relatives imported an Albanian partner into our nice 5 eyes country.
    What a shit country, people and culture. End rant/

    I have been to Albania a few times. It is a criminal mafia state which exports a lot of criminals to the EU.

    Muslim lite so not much fanatics there, but the Saudis are financing mosques so Wahhabism is creeping in .

    Cheap country to live in, almost no visa controls. Wants to join the EU someday, but too corrupt.

  101. @Twinkie

    One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.
     
    In 2015-2017:
    33% of sub-Saharan Africans wanted to migrate
    27% of Latin Americans and Caribbeans
    26% of Non-EU Europeans
    24% of Mena
    21% of EU
    15% of CIS
    14% of North America
    9% of Oceania
    8% of East Asia
    8% of South Asia
    7% of Southeast Asia
    15% of the world

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    When the Democrats get into power at the federal level they will probably start handing out free airplane tickets in all those countries.

  102. @adreadline
    Very well, you have supporting data, alright. Be mindful, though, that this whole thing is about what people say they'd do. People lie. Like that burly Lebanese former trader reminded us a few days ago, what people actually do matters more. And we can see what people actually do: border apprehension stats, visa applications, etc. so we can see economic growth's correlation with emigration. Otherwise it turns into something like ''you said, I said''.

    There's more. Here in my country, Brazil, people say they want to leave as they have never before, and this surprisingly correlates well to the stats we have. They don't seem to be lying that much, not about that. While we can be safely ignored from a international standpoint, since our population is a little over 200 million, anyone who knows anything about our recent history is aware we had a period of sustained economic growth in the 2000s and continuing past the 2008 recession. Turns out that it still didn't last. It came to collect. And that's with 2.0-1.7 kids per woman, a pretty stable population, nice research being conducted in our universities considering our national IQ, and so on.

    So yea, there is a correlation. You're correct. But a country's economy can turn around quickly, while a country's population cannot. And as soon as a recession hit, people wanted out, notwithstanding all the good times we just had had.

    My friend from Brazil, who came here a little over a year ago, says her family left because of crime and corruption. They actually had plenty of money, servants, a good car, house. But they were in fear of their lives and property, and they hated the lies and bribery that were part of business. so they brought their money to the US, made a big investment so as to make the immigration cut, and now live in safety, but with less social standing.

    Interestingly, she hates Bolsonaro. I don’t know too much about him, but I like the sound of tough on crime and increased gun rights. Maybe there’s inside baseball that makes the ex-pat upper middle class dislike and fear him.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    >>Interestingly, she hates Bolsonaro.

    Your Brazilian friend sounds very much like a California who has decamped to Idaho, Colorado, Texas, et. al...

    She fled her homeland because of the corruption, violence and incompetency bred by the leftist regime, but now that she is safe and away from the violent chaos her true, virtue-signaling, leftist soul comes to the fore. She denounces Bolsinaro, the one man who was standing athwart Brazil's headlong march to hell.
  103. @Anon
    Before we get to the Sub-Saharans, important to recall the Arabs of North Africa in their path. All five North African countries are rather unstable, with Morocco being the most stable. That's the existing problem for Europe, and it could get worse.

    The EU is probably content to farm out border control on the Sahara to the North African countries. When Algeria uses lethal force on a migrant caravan, it scarcely attracts notice in the West. But one Alt-Right camgirl shooting a flaregun at a boat went viral.

    Gaddafi was embarking on major infrastructure plans before he was removed from power, which were employing a number of sub-Saharans. Convering the desert in solar power could be a way of providing the jobs that the locals want, while providing virtue signal electricity to Europe.

    I’m under the impression that many blacks are moving to Arab countries, since it is relatively easier to find work there. Islam has a universalist side – I wonder if the tribalism of the Arabs will be sufficient protection to prevent themselves from becoming minorities, when it comes to black Muslims.

  104. @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    you missed the real number though – that “The Gambia” increased its population almost 10x in the last 100 years

  105. @Twinkie

    One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.
     
    In 2015-2017:
    33% of sub-Saharan Africans wanted to migrate
    27% of Latin Americans and Caribbeans
    26% of Non-EU Europeans
    24% of Mena
    21% of EU
    15% of CIS
    14% of North America
    9% of Oceania
    8% of East Asia
    8% of South Asia
    7% of Southeast Asia
    15% of the world

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

    Well there sure are a hell of a lot of Chinese in New York City, and more every day. But then again, if it’s only 8% that want to migrate, that’s still over 100 million people.

    We’re doomed.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    So we don't just need an end to birthright citizenship, we need another Chinese Exclusion Act?

    I'm down with that.
  106. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    “We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration…He’s not doing it.” — (((Halsey English))), Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    another dual-citizen spouting off his “we” nonsense

    • Replies: @Hail

    (((Halsey English)))
     
    Halsey English is Jewish? His name is literally English.
  107. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    > “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive… We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration… He’s not doing it.”

    Via Dreher, an excerpt from an interview of Tucker Carlson by the Swiss paper Die Weltwoche on this point:

    [Die Weltwoche reporter Urs Gehriger]: Do you think [Trump] has kept his promises? Has he achieved his goals?

    [Tucker Carlson]: No.

    [U.G.]: He hasn’t?

    [T.C.]: No. His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things… I’ve come to believe that Trump’s role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does… I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him. He’s not going to do that.

    I think Trump’s role is to begin the conversation about what actually matters. We were not having any conversation about immigration before Trump arrived in Washington. People were bothered about it in different places in the country. It’s a huge country, but that was not a staple of political debate at all. Trump asked basic questions like’ “Why don’t our borders work?” “Why should we sign a trade agreement and let the other side cheat?” Or my favorite of all, “What’s the point of NATO?” The point of NATO was to keep the Soviets from invading western Europe but they haven’t existed in 27 years, so what is the point? These are obvious questions that no one could answer.

    [U.G.]: Apart from asking these very important questions has he really achieved nothing?

    [T.C.]: Not much. Much less than he should have. I’ve come to believe he’s not capable of it.

    [U.G.]: Why should he be not capable?

    [T.C.]: Because the legislative process in this country by design is highly complex, and it’s designed to be complex as a way of diffusing power, because the people who framed our Constitution, founded our country, were worried about concentrations of power. They balanced it among the three branches and they made it very hard to make legislation. In order to do it you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and [Trump] knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    I see Carlson made no mention of Trumps promises to end the middle east wars and establish normal relationships with Russia.
    , @Hail
    Surprised Steve hasn't posted this interview. It's worth reading in full.Words that come immediately to mind are "explosive" and "dynamite." Politically speaking, of course.
    , @LondonBob
    Trump has no experience of managing a large organisation or of government. He should have fired Rosenstein straight away and nixed Mueller before it began, he fails to address the nation and speak directly to the people, he foolishly thought he could work with Paul Ryan and he paid no attention to staffing. The US budget deficit is out of control and his foreign policy is as a neocon wet dream.
  108. On a note related to population and migration, Kevin Williamson is stealing one of Steve’s ideas, but horrifically garbling it:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/conservative-message-to-residents-metropolitan-areas-must-improve/

    The word “immigration” does not appear in a long article about the GOP losing cities. NR has learned nothing. Nothing.

    Has anyone else been reading NRO comments lately? They have a subscriber only comment section now, so basically only hardcore neocon true believers over the age of 60. All of the commenters are cucks. Some of the comments are really over the top, the last 10 years didn’t happen type crazed cuckery .

    He’s a juicy one by “Vitorious” from the linked article:

    “…Once you figure out that we are all capitalists just trying to get along and make money off one another, maybe you’ll understand why we put so much focus on treating people right.

    I’m going to clear about $180 K this year, my first generation Vietnamese partners will do the same if not more because they are more ambitious. My Persian friend Shokoufa, she’ll get a refund on her taxes bigger than my pay because she makes almost 10 times as much as me. My buddy Khash, he could buy and sell us all. Here is what we all have in common, every one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Once that part is understood, we can talk. Until then, we’ll be over here making money. Feel free to go do whatever.”

    BTW, on the topic of cucks and boomers, Free Republic is hysterically attacking Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter for pointing out that Trump didn’t even try to get wall funding from Congress. Boomers never learn. Trump didn’t really change those people much.

    • Replies: @Anon
    It brings back memories of the Iraq War. The Boomercons of then, and some of the Silent Generation types that were active; were always saying that it was immoral and unpatriotic to criticize the President during wartime.

    Politically active types tend to get personally invested into candidates, and admitting that Trump is doing something wrong leads to people blaming themselves.

    Not everyone wants to live in complexity, a lot are content with a basic colorless world of moral dualism. They don't want to be engaged citizens, they want a Caesar. I'm not going to condemn them for that.

    Fwiw, Free Republic probably banned reposting Steve Sailer long ago.
    , @J.Ross
    [E]very one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Like the Chinese of Malaysia, who attempt to bribe anti-Chinese race-rioters, who are happy to take the money and then attack them anyway. Here is a guy who believes in nothing and stands for nothing, because having a thought could mean lost profits.
    , @LondonBob
    I read Williamson's article by substituting the word blacks for Muslims, fun thought experiment, but Israel is battling largely Muslims and Christians so we can get a hate with Muslims rather than focusing on the far more problematic blacks.
  109. Why don’t the western chauvinists build a culture that will survive and thrive under a global model of free migration, and possibly no nation states? Don’t give up the fight for immigration restriction, but a building a backup plan seems pretty important.

    • Replies: @peterike

    Why don’t the western chauvinists build a culture that will survive and thrive under a global model of free migration, and possibly no nation states?

     

    Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it's an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?
  110. @ic1000
    > “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive... We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration… He’s not doing it.”

    Via Dreher, an excerpt from an interview of Tucker Carlson by the Swiss paper Die Weltwoche on this point:


    [Die Weltwoche reporter Urs Gehriger]: Do you think [Trump] has kept his promises? Has he achieved his goals?

    [Tucker Carlson]: No.

    [U.G.]: He hasn’t?

    [T.C.]: No. His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things... I’ve come to believe that Trump’s role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does... I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him. He’s not going to do that.

    I think Trump’s role is to begin the conversation about what actually matters. We were not having any conversation about immigration before Trump arrived in Washington. People were bothered about it in different places in the country. It’s a huge country, but that was not a staple of political debate at all. Trump asked basic questions like’ “Why don’t our borders work?” “Why should we sign a trade agreement and let the other side cheat?” Or my favorite of all, “What’s the point of NATO?” The point of NATO was to keep the Soviets from invading western Europe but they haven’t existed in 27 years, so what is the point? These are obvious questions that no one could answer.

    [U.G.]: Apart from asking these very important questions has he really achieved nothing?

    [T.C.]: Not much. Much less than he should have. I’ve come to believe he’s not capable of it.

    [U.G.]: Why should he be not capable?

    [T.C.]: Because the legislative process in this country by design is highly complex, and it’s designed to be complex as a way of diffusing power, because the people who framed our Constitution, founded our country, were worried about concentrations of power. They balanced it among the three branches and they made it very hard to make legislation. In order to do it you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and [Trump] knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things.
     

    I see Carlson made no mention of Trumps promises to end the middle east wars and establish normal relationships with Russia.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    The interviewer did not pose those questions. But yeah, those certainly are concerns of mine. I had hoped that the Middle East wars & a lessening of our involvement that he spoke of would have been for real, but he is in the grip of the Ziocons. And the Ziocons were not having any of this improved relations with Russia, and this proved to be a great stick with which to beat him, so no on that one either.
  111. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    We need a Wall, we need to end birthright citizenship, we need to have a new legal immigration system. Exactly how should Trump do this with zero democrat support and maybe 50% GOP support?
    Our nation is choosing and not what I want. At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House. Our African Americans want the foreign competition for jobs, our housewives want their husbands’s companies to make less money, our high tech workers want their salary lowered by the import of H1B workers from India, our male students want to be hauled before a Star Chamber for going out on a date. And in return for lower salaries, a totally new demographic ruling our country, higher gas taxes, invading the middle east every two years, no rights for a college kid accused of sexual whatever, we will get transgender restrooms and we will stop being mean to women. That is what people want and they are going to get it.

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember. Gore – as insane as he is – would have been a far better President.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember
     
    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    (Tucker's trajectory is comparable.)
    , @Charles Pewitt

    At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House.

     

    The "incredible economic performance" is all about the asset bubbles cooked up by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    The globalized asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate will soon implode.

    I would immediately put the federal funds rate at 10 percent to bring on the night on this "incredible economic performance."
  112. @Anonymous
    The pay-back disaster is current French/UK demographics.

    Doubtless, any badly misguided attempt to resurrect 'colonialism' will end in a similar way.

    As the saying goes, 'the only way to win this game is not to play it'.

    Significantly, certain European states which were never colonizers have higher per capita incomes than the UK or France.

    All countries are subject to mass immigration, history of colonialism or not. As South Africa shows a small number of higher IQ folks will have a substantial impact on standard of living deterring immigration and assisting in immigration enforcement.

    • Replies: @Saxon
    And what do you do when the higher standards of living doesn't lead to Africans becoming self-sufficient and just leads to them balllooning their numbers before more of them try to flood the European's homelands?

    No, all countries are not subject to mass immigration. We tended to historically call such events invasions and respond with the proper means of deterrence.
  113. OT: “Conflict has arisen in cities when white residents have responded with hostility to minority groups who might be more community-minded than previous residents.”
    https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20181210/jacksonville-is-on-cusp-of-becoming-minority-majority-city

    You haters are just not “community minded.”

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anon
    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

    But it is a one-way street, the VRA has never been used to order California and Massachusetts to draw districts that would allow white conservatives to be elected. (A proportional representation system would suffice).

    Conservative are the most law-abiding, productive and patriotic group in the US, but they have no cultural representation in the media or in academia. Nor do they have any meaningful influence in the major cities where they pay a wildly disproportionate share of taxes.
    , @FredCDobbs
    I actually went to the story. That quote from a Krista Paulson, an "urban sociologist" at U North Florida.

    Funny how she omits the part about being "community minded" - but SOLELY to members of their own community.

    The Balkanization continues. Rinse and repeat.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Florida was about 45% black in 1860, so there's a very good chance that if Jacksonville, always near and usually at the top of Florida's cities' population list, goes "majority-minority", it would hardly be for the first time.

    In the next few years, Jacksonville will have more people than all of Florida did on the 1920 census.
  114. @Hail

    158 million people have desires to move to the U.S.
     
    "Build the Wall or lose America" -- Kevin Michael Grace, Dec. 10, 2018

    Wall status:
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1070018414201192449

    "Trump's done. He hasn't done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he's done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good. [...] We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration...He's not doing it." -- Halsey English, Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show

    Not surprised. Frankly, I never expected him to build a wall. I voted for him only to keep the Congenital Liar out of the White House and only incidentally because I happened to agree in principle with his views on immigration, the adverse effects of globalization and our overextended overseas military commitments (and as regards the latter two, nothing much has changed there either).

    Nope, not surprised at all.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    Same here. I had no idea that he'd be such a doormat for the generals, however.
  115. @Alfa158
    LOL “We quail relaxed you”.
    Nice closing touch that; your parody game has definitely sharpened up young Jedi.

    LOL “We quail relaxed you”.
    Nice closing touch that; your parody game has definitely sharpened up young Jedi.

    I wouldn’t relax if I were a quail.

  116. @ic1000
    > “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive... We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration… He’s not doing it.”

    Via Dreher, an excerpt from an interview of Tucker Carlson by the Swiss paper Die Weltwoche on this point:


    [Die Weltwoche reporter Urs Gehriger]: Do you think [Trump] has kept his promises? Has he achieved his goals?

    [Tucker Carlson]: No.

    [U.G.]: He hasn’t?

    [T.C.]: No. His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things... I’ve come to believe that Trump’s role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does... I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him. He’s not going to do that.

    I think Trump’s role is to begin the conversation about what actually matters. We were not having any conversation about immigration before Trump arrived in Washington. People were bothered about it in different places in the country. It’s a huge country, but that was not a staple of political debate at all. Trump asked basic questions like’ “Why don’t our borders work?” “Why should we sign a trade agreement and let the other side cheat?” Or my favorite of all, “What’s the point of NATO?” The point of NATO was to keep the Soviets from invading western Europe but they haven’t existed in 27 years, so what is the point? These are obvious questions that no one could answer.

    [U.G.]: Apart from asking these very important questions has he really achieved nothing?

    [T.C.]: Not much. Much less than he should have. I’ve come to believe he’s not capable of it.

    [U.G.]: Why should he be not capable?

    [T.C.]: Because the legislative process in this country by design is highly complex, and it’s designed to be complex as a way of diffusing power, because the people who framed our Constitution, founded our country, were worried about concentrations of power. They balanced it among the three branches and they made it very hard to make legislation. In order to do it you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and [Trump] knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things.
     

    Surprised Steve hasn’t posted this interview. It’s worth reading in full.Words that come immediately to mind are “explosive” and “dynamite.” Politically speaking, of course.

    • Replies: @rufus
    He doesnt like fire analogies
  117. @Hannah Katz
    I had no idea that we have a shortage of low skilled people in the United States. With robots taking over the low skill jobs, and maybe more, it would seem prudent to avoid all immigration for the time being.

    Automation, including the use of robots, is the 800-pound gorilla in the room. As it is, companies pay these immigrants peanuts anyway (while calling ’em “independent contractors” so as to avoid providing benefits), so why not keep the peanuts all for themselves.Why employ twenty leaf-blowers just over the border from Mejico when one robot or machine do as much or more at a much lower cost (and probably at lot faster)?

  118. Sierra Leone seems nice. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to leave.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-17768957

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  119. @Richard S
    Given that the current level of foreign trespassing in the global north has already sparked a pre-revolutionary situation there, there is no way the current post-war liberal democratic disposition (a rare interlude in word history) can continue.

    Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.

    Africa’s population has increased by 200 million in 10 years. Assume we could transport them all to Europe. Europe’s population would increase by 40% (and, of course, would cease to be Europe), but Africa would be back only to where it was a decade ago.

    …Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.

    There is a third option that the elite currently prefers: ‘don’t mention the migration‘, pretend that it is behind us. The nerdy lady replacing Merkel said it best: ‘by January we will close the migration discussion, we have learned, blabla, no looking back…’

    That is their favourite option, no coverage, no discussion, pretend that the ‘maybe mistakes were made, but it is solved now’. It is desperate, but it buys them time. And then they will move on to the techno-feudalism…

    • Replies: @allahuakbar
    yeah, thats why pelosi kept wanting to move the discussion behind closed doors at that press conference today. Out of sight, out of mind.
  120. One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.

    Every morning when I fire up my computer, it takes no time at all to find disturbing, depressing, and worrying news. But the sentence quoted above is different.

    It is utterly terrifying.

    Not simply the fact itself, but that so-called first world countries (or more precisely their oligarchical “leaders”) will accept, accommodate, and even encourage this real-life Götterdämmerung.

    After two and a half millennia, Western civilization despite many a bad patch had evolved into something pretty decent as human societies go. To be swept away in the blink of an eye in historical terms. Cultural suicide, an international Jonestown.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This is why I feel that it is so important for Britain to get a full and proper Brexit, and the incompetent Theresa May to be ousted and a real Brexiter getting in at 'Number 10'.

    The Deep State/Economist - the same scum who are pushing third world immigration so hard - need and deserve to be given a hard symbolic slap and reminded just who's boss.

    But alas, the bastards will prevail, as per usual. They are too deeply entrenched.
  121. @Thulean Friend

    I wonder how many Sub-Saharans would forego the expense and hassle of moving in exchange for recolonization by a European nation?
     
    There's even talk of this. One of the German development/foreign aid technocrats have even mentioned this as an idea. His idea would be to create "development zones" run by Europeans inside Africa. This is the worst outcome, it would only lead to mission creep. White people have to learn to stop being trapped in a paternalistic spiral loop. Africans have to learn that at some point, white people will not endlessly bail them out. They always 'thank' us with a Zimbabwe or the land confiscation soon to be undertaken in South Africa. Let them rot in their own making.

    This is the perfect opportunity to step back and let China spend the next 50-75 years fixing Africa. If they succeed we can then accuse them of colonialism. If they fail it will have kept them occupied. What’s not to like?

    • Agree: Futurethirdworlder
    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Bone through the nose people put one belt, one road people in many boiling cast iron pots.
    , @Mr. Rational
    Accusing the Chinese of colonialism would be funny, in a sad way.  Do you think they care about what they've done to Tibet, effectively erasing the Tibetan ethnic group?  Throwing "colonialist!" at them not only won't shame them, they won't even pay you any attention.  They think Africans are one step above farm animals, and you're not going to change them.

    There are only 2 real problems they could have trying to take over Africa:

    1.  Their own 40 million unmatched males from the one-child era mate with African women and produce an otherwise-homeless population of Chiggers, who take over the African possessions due to their higher IQ.

    2.  African leaders see the writing on the wall and implore the West to take over administration instead, figuring anything is better than the Chinese.

    I give #2 maybe 10% odds, and #1 maybe 30%.  More likely the Chinese will go with heaps of donor eggs from back home so the children of their diaspora men are fully Chinese even if gestated by Africans.  The country which created barefoot doctors can manage paraprofessional IVF clinics.

  122. @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    Plus a non-trivial number of British West Africans are now resident in the UK and Ireland.

  123. Let them come, I say. When they stay in Africa they have more children than when they leave, don’t they?

    • Replies: @peterike

    Let them come, I say. When they stay in Africa they have more children than when they leave, don’t they?

     

    I see you have a problem understanding numbers.
  124. @Bill Jones
    And they allowed the mass rape and sexual slavery of white children to go undeterred for fear of being thought racist. England is not just doomed (future tense) it is experiencing doom today.

    Not nearly as much doom as it deserves.

  125. @densa
    This is the perfect opportunity to step back and let China spend the next 50-75 years fixing Africa. If they succeed we can then accuse them of colonialism. If they fail it will have kept them occupied. What's not to like?

    Bone through the nose people put one belt, one road people in many boiling cast iron pots.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  126. @PiltdownMan
    How often you need to clean solar panels is a function of how dusty the environment is, and the cost of labor. The paper below suggests that solar panels lose about half a percent efficiency every day in the dusty desert conditions in Qatar in the Middle East, but only 1/20th of 1 percent every day in California.

    https://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=78340

    How often you need to clean solar panels is a function of how dusty the environment is, and the cost of labor.

    We’ll need to import an army of “Squeegee Men” ASAP to clean our solar panels; or perhaps we could rig something up that would squirt a cleaning solution unto the solar panel and then an arm with a rubber blade attached to it could wipe the surface clean of both the dust and the cleaning solution. I’m going to get down to the Patent Office right away with this. Don’t steal my invention guys, I’m going to make millions off of this idea.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  127. @Ibound1
    We need a Wall, we need to end birthright citizenship, we need to have a new legal immigration system. Exactly how should Trump do this with zero democrat support and maybe 50% GOP support?
    Our nation is choosing and not what I want. At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House. Our African Americans want the foreign competition for jobs, our housewives want their husbands's companies to make less money, our high tech workers want their salary lowered by the import of H1B workers from India, our male students want to be hauled before a Star Chamber for going out on a date. And in return for lower salaries, a totally new demographic ruling our country, higher gas taxes, invading the middle east every two years, no rights for a college kid accused of sexual whatever, we will get transgender restrooms and we will stop being mean to women. That is what people want and they are going to get it.

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember. Gore - as insane as he is - would have been a far better President.

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember

    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    (Tucker’s trajectory is comparable.)

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    It is easy to see after the fact. Ann sees after the fact. After 9/11 Bush could have had any immigration controls he wanted, any Wall we needed, any visa system necessary - even an end to birthright citizenship. Instead we invited more of them to come here and we spent trillions invading Muslim countries. Ann cheered and cheered and cheered. Freedom Fries! Remember them? (Cant use the word French because they opposed us invading Iraq). Not a word then from Ann about a Wall, about immigration reform. Not a word. Instead she takes her frustrations out on Trump, the only person who even has tried to do anything - with no party support. Now that it is pretty much too late, Ann has crystal clear vision.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don't like it.

    Ann Coulter was rather late in her vehemence regarding nation-wrecking mass immigration and its destructive impact on the United States, but she is now much better than Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham and Jebby Bush on mass immigration.

    Ann Coulter in 2015:

    I’d say if white Anglo-Saxons have a flaw, it is their tendency to sit quietly while others abuse and denounce them. There is no other ethnic group that does that. You know the French think it’s fantastic to be French. Russians are totally chauvinistic about being Russian. Only white Anglo-Saxons always seem to be in the position for apologizing for being white Anglo-Saxons. Well, no: You can come in and you can be part of what is a white Anglo-Saxon-American culture, which is better than the culture that it was created from. I mean we are better than England. Sorry to any British readers, but America did create something even better.

     


    [America] was created by British and Dutch settlers. And other people from different ethnic groups and different cultures in small numbers, depending on how different the culture is, can come in and be part of this successful enterprise. But they can’t do it when they’re overwhelming it with numbers.

     

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/608253939788730368
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

     

    She was smart enough at 18 to realize her home state was about to raise the drinking age-- three times, no less!-- and made sure to head to New York for college.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/31/nyregion/connecticut-drinking-age-going-up.html
  128. @Ibound1
    We need a Wall, we need to end birthright citizenship, we need to have a new legal immigration system. Exactly how should Trump do this with zero democrat support and maybe 50% GOP support?
    Our nation is choosing and not what I want. At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House. Our African Americans want the foreign competition for jobs, our housewives want their husbands's companies to make less money, our high tech workers want their salary lowered by the import of H1B workers from India, our male students want to be hauled before a Star Chamber for going out on a date. And in return for lower salaries, a totally new demographic ruling our country, higher gas taxes, invading the middle east every two years, no rights for a college kid accused of sexual whatever, we will get transgender restrooms and we will stop being mean to women. That is what people want and they are going to get it.

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember. Gore - as insane as he is - would have been a far better President.

    At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House.

    The “incredible economic performance” is all about the asset bubbles cooked up by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    The globalized asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate will soon implode.

    I would immediately put the federal funds rate at 10 percent to bring on the night on this “incredible economic performance.”

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    Do you think the workers of this country are thinking about interest rates? All they see is higher wages and a tighter labor market and a lower unemployment rate - something Obama could not achieve with essentially zero percent interest rates. And yet they are dissatisfied. And they are not dissatisfied because interest rates are low and they cannot make money on savings. They have no savings. They are dissatisfied because they hate Trump. Well they can have higher interest rates, higher unemployment, lower wages, more regulations and transgender bathrooms if that is what they want.
    And apparently they do.
  129. @Thulean Friend
    The fact that a country like Albania, which has a GDP per capita that is between 3X larger than the Sub-Saharan African median, is at 60% should tell you that the lie that "growth will solve this problem" is a lie. More growth will produce even more emigrants because SSA will go from being extremely poor to simply very poor.

    Couple this with the population explosion and it is clear that asylum as a "human right" will almost certainly have to be abolished since it is now overwhelmingly used as an economic migration route. If the mainstream won't do it, then voters will make sure someone else will (see Italy).

    True, it’s a complex equation that involves proximity, how much better off they’d be, previously established diaspora (All those Albanian asylum seekers who never returned home when the war ended from Austria, Sweden and Switzerland now create a diaspora community and connections) and the tradition of emigration to those places. They become mentally part of the economic space. They see it as their right to go there. The precedent has been established. That’s why the future belongs to whomever managed to keep their Nigerian diaspora as small as possible. Immigration begats more immigration, both through diaspora networks and through terraforming the economy to ‘need’ cheap, exploitable immigrant labour and generally turning the place into an atomised Dubai where immigrants feel ‘at home’ inasmuch as nobody feels at home.

    I’d love to know how many Fulani and Christians living near them who have actually filed asylum claims versus Yoruba and Igbo who claim to be fleeing Boko Haram in the West. The truly deprived don’t leave.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  130. @Western
    OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    Anarcho-tyranny.

  131. @Western
    OT Did you see the police in England are using lip readers to see what a fan said to a black player at a game to see if they will press charges. The fan has already lost his job.

    I wonder what Yankee or Red Sox fans have yelled at players over the years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6481297/Chelsea-fan-accused-racially-abusing-Sterling-says-called-MANC-c-not-black-one.html

    Quick, somebody call Inspector Gadget!

  132. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @FloridaFan
    OT: "Conflict has arisen in cities when white residents have responded with hostility to minority groups who might be more community-minded than previous residents."
    https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20181210/jacksonville-is-on-cusp-of-becoming-minority-majority-city

    You haters are just not "community minded."

    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

    But it is a one-way street, the VRA has never been used to order California and Massachusetts to draw districts that would allow white conservatives to be elected. (A proportional representation system would suffice).

    Conservative are the most law-abiding, productive and patriotic group in the US, but they have no cultural representation in the media or in academia. Nor do they have any meaningful influence in the major cities where they pay a wildly disproportionate share of taxes.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Ibound1
    Law abiding, productive and patriotic counts for nothing in the United States. Nothing. We important Somalians. Would you describe them as law abiding, productive or patriotic? We import them as if we are tremendously short of moronic, law breaking, non-productive Islamists. We pay for the privilege of Somalians. My only conclusion is law abiding, productive and patriotic counts for nothing in the US.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

     

    Yes, and anyone who's taken Gerrymandering 101 knows that this is suicide for one's own party, and a gift to the other. That's why white Democrats from the South are nearly absent from Congress.

    Democrats realized this and are trying to walk it back. You want to win your districts by 10%, and the other guy to win by as close to 100% as you can arrange. That way, you get more seats.
  133. @Massimo Heitor
    Why don't the western chauvinists build a culture that will survive and thrive under a global model of free migration, and possibly no nation states? Don't give up the fight for immigration restriction, but a building a backup plan seems pretty important.

    Why don’t the western chauvinists build a culture that will survive and thrive under a global model of free migration, and possibly no nation states?

    Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because it’s an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor

    Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because it’s an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?
     
    Why is it impossible? It seems like building a fallback strategy is important. I don't see what alternative you have.
  134. @Brás Cubas
    Let them come, I say. When they stay in Africa they have more children than when they leave, don't they?

    Let them come, I say. When they stay in Africa they have more children than when they leave, don’t they?

    I see you have a problem understanding numbers.

  135. @densa
    This is the perfect opportunity to step back and let China spend the next 50-75 years fixing Africa. If they succeed we can then accuse them of colonialism. If they fail it will have kept them occupied. What's not to like?

    Accusing the Chinese of colonialism would be funny, in a sad way.  Do you think they care about what they’ve done to Tibet, effectively erasing the Tibetan ethnic group?  Throwing “colonialist!” at them not only won’t shame them, they won’t even pay you any attention.  They think Africans are one step above farm animals, and you’re not going to change them.

    There are only 2 real problems they could have trying to take over Africa:

    1.  Their own 40 million unmatched males from the one-child era mate with African women and produce an otherwise-homeless population of Chiggers, who take over the African possessions due to their higher IQ.

    2.  African leaders see the writing on the wall and implore the West to take over administration instead, figuring anything is better than the Chinese.

    I give #2 maybe 10% odds, and #1 maybe 30%.  More likely the Chinese will go with heaps of donor eggs from back home so the children of their diaspora men are fully Chinese even if gestated by Africans.  The country which created barefoot doctors can manage paraprofessional IVF clinics.

  136. @Hail

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember
     
    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    (Tucker's trajectory is comparable.)

    It is easy to see after the fact. Ann sees after the fact. After 9/11 Bush could have had any immigration controls he wanted, any Wall we needed, any visa system necessary – even an end to birthright citizenship. Instead we invited more of them to come here and we spent trillions invading Muslim countries. Ann cheered and cheered and cheered. Freedom Fries! Remember them? (Cant use the word French because they opposed us invading Iraq). Not a word then from Ann about a Wall, about immigration reform. Not a word. Instead she takes her frustrations out on Trump, the only person who even has tried to do anything – with no party support. Now that it is pretty much too late, Ann has crystal clear vision.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    Coulter is right now and that's what matters. Trump could have very easily sent back one of those budgets. It was the only chance and Trump blew it.

    I'm surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better. When Trump is gone and the smoke clears, a lot of people are going to be embarrassed by how taken they were with his bluster.

  137. @Reg Cæsar

    I think for these groups though it’s analogous to serious college plans. They talk to relatives who have done it, they shop around for coyotes, they save money, they research rumors.

     

    Has the Yale Daily News given them an Insider's Guide yet?



    https://kbimages1-a.akamaihd.net/cb9eb5ac-f656-4db3-813e-efd2b111381e/353/569/90/False/the-insider-s-guide-to-the-colleges-2012.jpg

    The quangos give them pamphlets like this: where to go, what to claim.

  138. Where were you when globalists all but admitted that random mass shootings are artificial domestic terror for political control and not natural events?
    In Brazil — which has a lot of shootings as a result of gang activity, but not a lot of what we call “mass shootings” (in the sense of someone snapping) — Jair Bolsonaro and his promise to modernize firearm freedoms now must contend with a mass shooting, which hopefully everybody sees happened under the current draconian laws (like all the normal Brazilian violence).
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46529733
    Sure is funny how these mass shootings happen when globalists want to restrict gun laws, in places where nothing like them had happened before.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  139. @Beckow

    ...Either the rulers crush the resistance of their own populations and succeed in finally imposing a kind of techno-feudalism on society; or the natives will overthrow the current system of Power.
     
    There is a third option that the elite currently prefers: 'don't mention the migration', pretend that it is behind us. The nerdy lady replacing Merkel said it best: 'by January we will close the migration discussion, we have learned, blabla, no looking back...'

    That is their favourite option, no coverage, no discussion, pretend that the 'maybe mistakes were made, but it is solved now'. It is desperate, but it buys them time. And then they will move on to the techno-feudalism...

    yeah, thats why pelosi kept wanting to move the discussion behind closed doors at that press conference today. Out of sight, out of mind.

  140. @Hail
    Surprised Steve hasn't posted this interview. It's worth reading in full.Words that come immediately to mind are "explosive" and "dynamite." Politically speaking, of course.

    He doesnt like fire analogies

  141. @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    Refer to a map of Africa circa the 1930s. Various areas were in the color of the European countries which had colonized them. The British colonies were in red, by far the major color on the map, but then you could also include India, Canada Australia, New Zealand, British Guiana, and the Falklands, and a few others I failed to name. It was called the British Empire and the King or Queen was a figure to be reckoned with. Sic transit gloria.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It was called the British Empire and the King or Queen...
     
    Actually, Emperor or Empress.

    Kings and queens reign over nations, not empires.
  142. Check out Tim Wise’s twitter, he’s losing his mind. Remember how he called for a young college kid to be “wrecked”? A lot of obtuse people are misunderstanding what he clearly meant.

  143. @LondonBob
    All countries are subject to mass immigration, history of colonialism or not. As South Africa shows a small number of higher IQ folks will have a substantial impact on standard of living deterring immigration and assisting in immigration enforcement.

    And what do you do when the higher standards of living doesn’t lead to Africans becoming self-sufficient and just leads to them balllooning their numbers before more of them try to flood the European’s homelands?

    No, all countries are not subject to mass immigration. We tended to historically call such events invasions and respond with the proper means of deterrence.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    They are ballooning their numbers currently, a European or Asian elite could manage this. We need the natural resources of Africa and it still has some sights worth seeing. My famous economics professor speculated that Africa would be re-colonised for its resources and as a zoo.
  144. @Hail

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember
     
    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    (Tucker's trajectory is comparable.)

    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don’t like it.

    Ann Coulter was rather late in her vehemence regarding nation-wrecking mass immigration and its destructive impact on the United States, but she is now much better than Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham and Jebby Bush on mass immigration.

    Ann Coulter in 2015:

    I’d say if white Anglo-Saxons have a flaw, it is their tendency to sit quietly while others abuse and denounce them. There is no other ethnic group that does that. You know the French think it’s fantastic to be French. Russians are totally chauvinistic about being Russian. Only white Anglo-Saxons always seem to be in the position for apologizing for being white Anglo-Saxons. Well, no: You can come in and you can be part of what is a white Anglo-Saxon-American culture, which is better than the culture that it was created from. I mean we are better than England. Sorry to any British readers, but America did create something even better.

    [America] was created by British and Dutch settlers. And other people from different ethnic groups and different cultures in small numbers, depending on how different the culture is, can come in and be part of this successful enterprise. But they can’t do it when they’re overwhelming it with numbers.

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @Hail

    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don’t like it.
     
    When, exactly, did she "come out"?
  145. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    One-third of sub-Saharan Africa would like to leave.
     
    Every morning when I fire up my computer, it takes no time at all to find disturbing, depressing, and worrying news. But the sentence quoted above is different.

    It is utterly terrifying.

    Not simply the fact itself, but that so-called first world countries (or more precisely their oligarchical "leaders") will accept, accommodate, and even encourage this real-life Götterdämmerung.

    After two and a half millennia, Western civilization despite many a bad patch had evolved into something pretty decent as human societies go. To be swept away in the blink of an eye in historical terms. Cultural suicide, an international Jonestown.

    This is why I feel that it is so important for Britain to get a full and proper Brexit, and the incompetent Theresa May to be ousted and a real Brexiter getting in at ‘Number 10’.

    The Deep State/Economist – the same scum who are pushing third world immigration so hard – need and deserve to be given a hard symbolic slap and reminded just who’s boss.

    But alas, the bastards will prevail, as per usual. They are too deeply entrenched.

  146. Via Occidental Observer, an interview with Enrique Krauze:

    According to the Líderes Mexicanos magazine, Leo Zuckermann (another Mexican Jew) is one of the 300 leaders of Mexico. This April Zuckermann interviewed Krauze to talk about the latter’s 2018 book, El Pueblo Soy Yo, whose central theme is populism. I will translate from Spanish to English a passage from the television interview in which Krauze responds to a leading question by Zuckermann. Krauze says that, with the election of Trump, the United States

    has degraded Western history. And the country is in a situation of political, historical and moral conflict of enormous [emphasis in Krauze’s voice] proportions and still of unknown prognosis. And there is, without a doubt, a battle between a prospective tyrant, who is Donald Trump, with very clear [emphasis in Krauze’s voice] fascist tendencies—… his racism, his nativism, his hatred, not to mention his personal pathology: megalomaniac, narcissistic in short (we would spend all night talking about this) that also dominates a Congress that wants to be dominated [!!!], against a judicial power that is defending itself, the press, the media, the radio and television channels.

    the polarization is terrible, and there are thirty-something percent of Americans who, whatever happens with Trump, would approve of him even if he killed people on Fifth Avenue, as he said [emphasis in Krauze’s voice]; nothing would happen.

    Zuckermann agreed and referred to an intellectual he had admired so much, Samuel Huntington, especially for his book Political Order in Changing Societies (although not for his later books, such as Who Are We? The Challenges to America’s National Identity). Krauze responded:

    I knew him [Huntington]. I even had a controversy with him, and this essay that I published in The New Republic is an essay against him [emphasis in Krauze’s voice] because he is Trump’s prophet. He is the man who says in 2003, in his latest book, “the United States is in danger.” But is the United States in danger? No. It is the White, Protestant United States—the United States that Huntington saw himself in the mirror—that is in danger. And why? Because of the Latin American and, in particular, the presence of Mexicans.

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/12/08/enrique-krauze-mexicos-most-prominent-public-intellectual-hates-trump-and-white-protestant-america/

  147. @John Derbyshire
    Colonialism? Numbers, numbers:

    In 1922 the British Isles had a population of 47.31 million. The territory called British West Africa, for contrast, had a population of 22.48 million. So the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa 94 years ago.

    Forward to today. The British Isles are still here, now the U.K plus Ireland: total population 68.97 million. British West Africa is nowadays the independent nations of Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, and Gambia: total population 215.74 million. That’s over three times Britain's number.

    Once again:

    » In 1922, the British Isles had over twice the population of British West Africa.
    » In 2016, British West Africa has over three times the population of the British Isles.
     
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg72zap

    If colonialism had not happened one could argue that the 22 to 200 million wouldn’t happen. If we extrapolate at least 2-3 billion people living today in the Third World wouldn’t be there (food, hygiene, disease control and other basics would prevent it).

    Colonialism (and slavery) were worse than evil, they were a stupid evil. Today we have comparable Western activities of searching for the cheapest possible labor anywhere in the world and the mindless ‘democracy’, ‘human rights’, etc… interventions around the world. It always backfires, an advanced civilization has to be self-confident enough to isolate itself – mixing with less advanced cultures brings it down.

    But if people are unable to control their own out-of-control and short-sighted elites – as was the case under colonialism and is today – what kind of an advanced civilisation is it?

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @bomag

    If colonialism had not happened one could argue that the 22 to 200 million wouldn’t happen.
     
    Much of this is path independent: Sweden and Germany weren't much into slavery and colonialism, and they are abolishing themselves regardless.

    The diffusion of tech in the modern world means that Pandora's box eventually gets opened, so you better be able to defend yourself like Japan et al.
  148. The press might make naked emotional appeals with its ridiculous immigration sob stories, but leftist rhetoric on the matter in general is all quite sterile, anthropological, and elitist. Some scam “migration” charity even uses a monarch butterfly in its logo. How patronizing. I imagine the Africans and Central Americans who want to be On The Move give more thought to their life plans than, say, a herd of water buffalo.

    That said, this Crisis Without a Name is pretty much the only international news item outside China that actually matters to Americans. The solution I propose is a full repeal of the FCPA.

  149. Future Europeans will be saying Merry Islamas at this time of the year.

  150. OT – reported 2 dead, 11 seriously injured at Christmas market in Strasbourg. Shooter still out there, possibly wounded after shootout with police. Reports that shooter was on a ‘watch list’.

    • Replies: @Hail
    Shooter is said to b 29, of North African origin, first name Cherif; purported Facebook is blank but is friends with accounts that have anti-Israel and anti-US imagery. (Source: widespread on Twitter).

    Translation: Dog bites man.

  151. @Anon
    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

    But it is a one-way street, the VRA has never been used to order California and Massachusetts to draw districts that would allow white conservatives to be elected. (A proportional representation system would suffice).

    Conservative are the most law-abiding, productive and patriotic group in the US, but they have no cultural representation in the media or in academia. Nor do they have any meaningful influence in the major cities where they pay a wildly disproportionate share of taxes.

    Law abiding, productive and patriotic counts for nothing in the United States. Nothing. We important Somalians. Would you describe them as law abiding, productive or patriotic? We import them as if we are tremendously short of moronic, law breaking, non-productive Islamists. We pay for the privilege of Somalians. My only conclusion is law abiding, productive and patriotic counts for nothing in the US.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  152. @Whiskey
    Bet on the neo feudalism. It generates tingles. Pretty much 75% of White women would love the U.S. and Europe to be transformed into Lagos north. Look how they backed it in Baltimore and Philly.

    Our only hope is war with China. Win or lose few migrate into a war zone. That is how bad the situation is ... War with China is the good option.

    President Hillary would at least need White men. Or lose to President So who would not be as bad for White men as President Harris.

    At this late stage in the day I would seriously consider fighting on China’s side..

    And I respectfully remind any important Chinese reading this that, as a decent 鬼佬, I can be useful in rounding up others to toil in your underground genetic engineering caves 🙂

    Have you tried Kilbeggan? If you’re civilised enough to spell whiskey correctly, then I think you’d like it.

  153. @FloridaFan
    OT: "Conflict has arisen in cities when white residents have responded with hostility to minority groups who might be more community-minded than previous residents."
    https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20181210/jacksonville-is-on-cusp-of-becoming-minority-majority-city

    You haters are just not "community minded."

    I actually went to the story. That quote from a Krista Paulson, an “urban sociologist” at U North Florida.

    Funny how she omits the part about being “community minded” – but SOLELY to members of their own community.

    The Balkanization continues. Rinse and repeat.

  154. Maybe Trump got a hold of the trenbolone that Lindsay Graham was using during the Kav hearing. He looked pretty solid against Chuck and Nancy today.

    But, Ive had enough of discussions, threats, and what have you. If Trump shows up in 2020 with “Build the Wall” stick a fork in him, he’s done. If he can’t hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    I asked today in a meeting what the plan was when the world decides to scrape together the funds for two plane tickets to Canada and starts pulling the shit that central americans are doing at the sw border up at the northern border.

    A lot of staring at hands. No one seems to be willing to confront an out of control judiciary.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    But, Ive had enough of discussions, threats, and what have you. If Trump shows up in 2020 with “Build the Wall” stick a fork in him, he’s done. If he can’t hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    This is the same guy who got the Wollman Rink built as per TAOTD. 2 years in and no wall. I voted in the last election and the previous presidential one but he can be a one termer for all I care if he doesn't build the wall. I didn't vote for the caving to DACA. I voted for immigration restriction. And I don't care if the "have Mexico pay for it" was bluster, building the wall was his signature campaign promise, one which he cannot renege on.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollman_Rink

    I note you have been Trump's biggest cheerleader on here. If any if Trump's aides are reading this, take note.
    , @istevefan

    If Trump shows up in 2020 with “Build the Wall” stick a fork in him, he’s done. If he can’t hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.
     
    Politicians have often made promises they failed to keep. You would think they would learn to keep their major promises. Even Rush Limbaugh told Trump during the 2016 campaign that the wall was a promise he must keep. You know Trump has to know this. Every rally he goes to, even the last one for the Mississippi run-off, the crowd breaks into the "build the wall" chant.

    He knows this is his signature issue. The media knows it. The democrats know it. The GOP knows it. Yet he hasn't drawn the proverbial line in the sand. I can't imagine that Trump is too dense to think he can just blow this issue off. So why has he continually been rolled on this issue? It just doesn't make sense.

    Also, here is an eye-opening tweet about the number of legal migrants admitted over the past 3 years. These numbers are staggering and show that it is not just the wall, but ultimately a huge reduction in legal immigration is needed. Though these legal migrants cannot vote yet, they are now in the pipeline for citizenship if they so desire in 5 to 7 years.

    https://twitter.com/porter14159/status/1072508425244938241
  155. Anon[728] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: University of NC teachers are on a grade-strike, threatening to withhold their students’ grades if a Confederate monument isn’t banned.

    https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2018/12/11/carolina-teachers-refuse-release-students-final-grades-unless-school-bans-confederate-monument/

    All these teachers need to be fired. The students are just pawns, and the students can now sue their teachers and the university for this. The students paid good money for that education, and the teachers have no legal right to withhold grades or threaten their own administration like this. The students now have grounds for a class action lawsuit.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    All these teachers need to be fired.

    This. Modern teachers are totally worthless. The same movements that lead them to weaponize and politicize everything also drive their profession to a para-automated joke. A while back NPR had a decent bit of reporting about a rare good teacher getting interrogated by the education department Stasis over exactly why she thought it was acceptable to use a conceptual illustration that did not come from the latest teacher's manual.
    If they're just automatons depending on the manual, then fire every last one and share copies of the manual. If they want to turn everything into a political statement, then fire every last one and you lose nothing you would have had anyway.
    , @black sea
    These are primarily university instructors, the lumpenproletariat of higher ed.

    These "contingent faculty"are generally a mix of grad students, part-timers, PhDs who have next to no chance of becoming professors, and others who cycle from one institution to another in the vain hope of one day attaining a lower-middle class standard of living.

    They tend to be bitter and desperate people, and they do most of the actual teaching in most universities . . . which explains a lot.
  156. @Charles Pewitt

    At a time of incredible economic performance the GOP was smashed in the House.

     

    The "incredible economic performance" is all about the asset bubbles cooked up by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    The globalized asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate will soon implode.

    I would immediately put the federal funds rate at 10 percent to bring on the night on this "incredible economic performance."

    Do you think the workers of this country are thinking about interest rates? All they see is higher wages and a tighter labor market and a lower unemployment rate – something Obama could not achieve with essentially zero percent interest rates. And yet they are dissatisfied. And they are not dissatisfied because interest rates are low and they cannot make money on savings. They have no savings. They are dissatisfied because they hate Trump. Well they can have higher interest rates, higher unemployment, lower wages, more regulations and transgender bathrooms if that is what they want.
    And apparently they do.

  157. @Wilkey
    The exact number wishing to immigrate is irrelevant. It could be 10 million, or it could be a billion.

    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.

    Perhaps it will take a billion Third World immigrants to make it that bad. But if the immigrants are really, really bad it wouldn't take nearly that many: perhaps not more than 10-20 million. There are 11 million people in Somalia. There are 28 million people in Yemen. There are 47 million people in El Salvador and the rest of Central America. That's 85 million people, not counting all the other crappy countries in the world. You can easily assume at least half of them, handed an airplane ticket that Catholic Charities or George Soros (or China) would be more than happy to give them, would immediately come here.

    Believing that open borders won't dramatically effect the quality of life in the United States is like believing you can throw open all the windows and doors to your house on a spankingly cold winter day yet somehow manage to keep the temperature at a tolerable level because you have a First World heating system. It as appallingly stupid thing to believe.

    What matters is this: the world is comprised of about 200 countries. Some of them are incredibly awful. Throw the borders open wide and at what point will people stop coming from those countries to this country? When the United States is, at best, only slightly better than the worst country on earth. Think Yemen. Think El Salvador. Think Somalia.

    Super well said Wilkey.

    I highlighted the key point. I keep pointing this out myself. This idea of “nation of immigrants” in the sense of endlessly continuing immigration–as opposed to “yeah, the joint was settled by a bunch of white people who conquered the indigenous stone age folks”–inherently means that your nation will end up being the crappiest place on earth. That’s when the immigration finally stops–when no one else wants to come.

    That you have adult–worse college “educated”–parrotting this “nation of immigrants!” pablum when it takes 6th grade math to understand what a disaster that *must* create, just shows how effective this nasty minoritarian propoganda has been.

  158. @Simply Simon
    Refer to a map of Africa circa the 1930s. Various areas were in the color of the European countries which had colonized them. The British colonies were in red, by far the major color on the map, but then you could also include India, Canada Australia, New Zealand, British Guiana, and the Falklands, and a few others I failed to name. It was called the British Empire and the King or Queen was a figure to be reckoned with. Sic transit gloria.

    It was called the British Empire and the King or Queen

    Actually, Emperor or Empress.

    Kings and queens reign over nations, not empires.

  159. @Hail

    Ann Coulter was a big W. cheerleader as far as I remember
     
    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    (Tucker's trajectory is comparable.)

    I wonder what caused her change from bland, R-team cheerleader (1990s through the mid 2000s[?]), to Ethnonationalist by the 2010s.

    She was smart enough at 18 to realize her home state was about to raise the drinking age– three times, no less!– and made sure to head to New York for college.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/31/nyregion/connecticut-drinking-age-going-up.html

  160. Anonymous [AKA "stating the obvious"] says:
    @Steve Richter
    why can't the US build factories in Central America, and use the labor to make all the consumer goods we currently import from China?

    You need decent workers t0 manufacture at the rate and volume of modern consumption. Mestizo Che Guevara-types and their dull indio charges are bad for business.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  161. @Jack Hanson
    Maybe Trump got a hold of the trenbolone that Lindsay Graham was using during the Kav hearing. He looked pretty solid against Chuck and Nancy today.

    But, Ive had enough of discussions, threats, and what have you. If Trump shows up in 2020 with "Build the Wall" stick a fork in him, he's done. If he can't hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    I asked today in a meeting what the plan was when the world decides to scrape together the funds for two plane tickets to Canada and starts pulling the shit that central americans are doing at the sw border up at the northern border.

    A lot of staring at hands. No one seems to be willing to confront an out of control judiciary.

    But, Ive had enough of discussions, threats, and what have you. If Trump shows up in 2020 with “Build the Wall” stick a fork in him, he’s done. If he can’t hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    This is the same guy who got the Wollman Rink built as per TAOTD. 2 years in and no wall. I voted in the last election and the previous presidential one but he can be a one termer for all I care if he doesn’t build the wall. I didn’t vote for the caving to DACA. I voted for immigration restriction. And I don’t care if the “have Mexico pay for it” was bluster, building the wall was his signature campaign promise, one which he cannot renege on.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollman_Rink

    I note you have been Trump’s biggest cheerleader on here. If any if Trump’s aides are reading this, take note.

  162. @anon

    "We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration…He’s not doing it.” — (((Halsey English))), Dec. 10, 2018 on Luke Ford Show
     
    another dual-citizen spouting off his "we" nonsense

    (((Halsey English)))

    Halsey English is Jewish? His name is literally English.

    • Replies: @anon
    yes, they're tricky that way
  163. @Charles Pewitt
    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don't like it.

    Ann Coulter was rather late in her vehemence regarding nation-wrecking mass immigration and its destructive impact on the United States, but she is now much better than Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham and Jebby Bush on mass immigration.

    Ann Coulter in 2015:

    I’d say if white Anglo-Saxons have a flaw, it is their tendency to sit quietly while others abuse and denounce them. There is no other ethnic group that does that. You know the French think it’s fantastic to be French. Russians are totally chauvinistic about being Russian. Only white Anglo-Saxons always seem to be in the position for apologizing for being white Anglo-Saxons. Well, no: You can come in and you can be part of what is a white Anglo-Saxon-American culture, which is better than the culture that it was created from. I mean we are better than England. Sorry to any British readers, but America did create something even better.

     


    [America] was created by British and Dutch settlers. And other people from different ethnic groups and different cultures in small numbers, depending on how different the culture is, can come in and be part of this successful enterprise. But they can’t do it when they’re overwhelming it with numbers.

     

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/608253939788730368

    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don’t like it.

    When, exactly, did she “come out”?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Vdare has been paying Coulter and Malkin for quite some time to repost their columns.
    , @istevefan
    Didn't she write the book, 'Adios America'?
  164. @stillCARealist
    My friend from Brazil, who came here a little over a year ago, says her family left because of crime and corruption. They actually had plenty of money, servants, a good car, house. But they were in fear of their lives and property, and they hated the lies and bribery that were part of business. so they brought their money to the US, made a big investment so as to make the immigration cut, and now live in safety, but with less social standing.

    Interestingly, she hates Bolsonaro. I don't know too much about him, but I like the sound of tough on crime and increased gun rights. Maybe there's inside baseball that makes the ex-pat upper middle class dislike and fear him.

    >>Interestingly, she hates Bolsonaro.

    Your Brazilian friend sounds very much like a California who has decamped to Idaho, Colorado, Texas, et. al…

    She fled her homeland because of the corruption, violence and incompetency bred by the leftist regime, but now that she is safe and away from the violent chaos her true, virtue-signaling, leftist soul comes to the fore. She denounces Bolsinaro, the one man who was standing athwart Brazil’s headlong march to hell.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  165. The meta here, yet again, is that Anglo-Saxon “space” is the most desirable and attracts indigenes from every other “space”.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  166. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - reported 2 dead, 11 seriously injured at Christmas market in Strasbourg. Shooter still out there, possibly wounded after shootout with police. Reports that shooter was on a 'watch list'.

    Shooter is said to b 29, of North African origin, first name Cherif; purported Facebook is blank but is friends with accounts that have anti-Israel and anti-US imagery. (Source: widespread on Twitter).

    Translation: Dog bites man.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Shooter is said to b 29, of North African origin, first name Cherif...
     
    Cherif don't like it!
    Rock the Christkindlmarkt, rock the Christkindlmarkt...
  167. @FloridaFan
    OT: "Conflict has arisen in cities when white residents have responded with hostility to minority groups who might be more community-minded than previous residents."
    https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20181210/jacksonville-is-on-cusp-of-becoming-minority-majority-city

    You haters are just not "community minded."

    Florida was about 45% black in 1860, so there’s a very good chance that if Jacksonville, always near and usually at the top of Florida’s cities’ population list, goes “majority-minority”, it would hardly be for the first time.

    In the next few years, Jacksonville will have more people than all of Florida did on the 1920 census.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    Florida was about 45% black in 1860, so there’s a very good chance that if Jacksonville, always near and usually at the top of Florida’s cities’ population list, goes “majority-minority”, it would hardly be for the first time.
     
    True. But this time they will have voting rights to go along with that majority.
  168. @nsa
    Coulter: "Border Wall Construction Update: Zero Miles In Two Years".
    Wrong, Ann. The American public has paid for miles and miles of completed big beautiful border wall.....in Izzyville, of course. Trumpstein has delivered bigly for his sponsors, who must be laughing their asses off at the gullible white trash deplorables waiting with mouths agape for their promised wall, curbs on immigration, eviction of illegals, banning of birthright citizenship, etc, etc. Trumpstein is best thought of as a Judas Goat, leading the bleating white trash sheeple into the diversity abattoir to a cultural death while he is allowed to survive another day. The old fraud will never be impeached as long as he continues to deliver for the tribe.......

    Wrong, Ann. The American public has paid for miles and miles of completed big beautiful border wall…..in Izzyville, of course.

    Here is the reason they need that wall:

    Israeli Law Declares the Country the ‘Nation-State of the Jewish People’

    By David M. Halbfinger and Isabel Kershner
    July 19, 2018

    The USA, of course, is for everybody. = Do not need a wall.

  169. @Hail
    Shooter is said to b 29, of North African origin, first name Cherif; purported Facebook is blank but is friends with accounts that have anti-Israel and anti-US imagery. (Source: widespread on Twitter).

    Translation: Dog bites man.

    Shooter is said to b 29, of North African origin, first name Cherif

    Cherif don’t like it!
    Rock the Christkindlmarkt, rock the Christkindlmarkt…

  170. When, exactly, did she “come out”?

    I guess after Mitt Romney got smashed by Obama in the Great Lakes states and Florida and Virginia in 2012.

    Ann Coulter has far too many photographs where she appears close to “coming out” of her dress at book signings when she leans over the table to take photos with fans.

    Tweet from 2014:

  171. @peterike

    Why don’t the western chauvinists build a culture that will survive and thrive under a global model of free migration, and possibly no nation states?

     

    Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it's an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?

    Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because it’s an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?

    Why is it impossible? It seems like building a fallback strategy is important. I don’t see what alternative you have.

    • Replies: @dvorak

    Why is it impossible? It seems like building a fallback strategy is important. I don’t see what alternative you have.
     
    How can we build anything when antifa/FBI/GOOG/TWTR break up our meetings, men's groups, intellectual conferences and online forums? And impose long federal sentences with solitary confinement?

    The fallback tactic is the same as ever - white flight. To keep your sanity, turn off the news permanently and ensconce yourself near an elite locale that is guaranteed to keep its streets safe, or else go rural. Can't afford Atherton? Cuddle up nearby in San Bruno. Can't afford Boston? Try New Hampshire.
  172. @Hail

    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don’t like it.
     
    When, exactly, did she "come out"?

    Vdare has been paying Coulter and Malkin for quite some time to repost their columns.

  173. istevefan says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Florida was about 45% black in 1860, so there's a very good chance that if Jacksonville, always near and usually at the top of Florida's cities' population list, goes "majority-minority", it would hardly be for the first time.

    In the next few years, Jacksonville will have more people than all of Florida did on the 1920 census.

    Florida was about 45% black in 1860, so there’s a very good chance that if Jacksonville, always near and usually at the top of Florida’s cities’ population list, goes “majority-minority”, it would hardly be for the first time.

    True. But this time they will have voting rights to go along with that majority.

  174. @Bill Jones
    It is time for honesty among honkies.

    The White man must accept and acknowledge that the population problems of sub-Saharan Africa are a direct result of his meddling and for him alone to resolve.

    The white man's interference with Africa's natural population population control mechanisms of famine and epidemic is unconscionable and should cease immediately. No more "aid".

    It’s not easy to quit “aid”, because aid is not what “aid” is.
    It is in reality one important part of today’s well-perfumed, gilded colonialism.
    A big business benefiting a lot of non-African people, and the more powerful Africans. How do you think anyone is going to end that?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    It’s not easy to quit “aid”, because aid is not what “aid” is.
    It is in reality one important part of today’s well-perfumed, gilded colonialism.
    A big business benefiting a lot of non-African people, and the more powerful Africans. How do you think anyone is going to end that?
     
    It is this, the money interest, plus the Yeshuans. All the two hundred million bible thumpers singing from the same choir book that Africans are “YHWH’s children” and it’s unChristian to allow them to reap what they’ve themselves sown. After all, “we’re all created in YHWH’s image” aren’t we?
  175. @Hail

    Ann Coulter has seen the future of nation-wrecking mass immigration and she don’t like it.
     
    When, exactly, did she "come out"?

    Didn’t she write the book, ‘Adios America’?

    • Replies: @Hail

    Print Length: 400 pages
    Publisher: Regnery Publishing
    Publication Date: June 1, 2015
     
    June 2015; Sometimes life is delightfully poetic -- this is the very same month the MAGA movement was born (June 16, 2015: Trump announces his campaign by alleging Mexico is not sending its best). She couldn't have known what was to come.

    (See here for the MAGA epitaph [#230].)

    Needless to say, Ann would never would have published the same book in 2005...though, as others have said above, it was really an idea whose time had come by the period 2000 to 2005. VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.
  176. @Hail

    (((Halsey English)))
     
    Halsey English is Jewish? His name is literally English.

    yes, they’re tricky that way

  177. Has Steve heard about the young awkward genius at Colombia who got tired of being told to feel about for being white and some neon-haired BPD who doesn’t understand limits to their own sadism went and put him on Twitter to which all the other SJWs (including a special guest appearance from Tim Wise!) crow about annihilating his whole future?

    https://twitter.com/vivareturned/status/1072551782247817216

    https://twitter.com/USUprising/status/1071973810017132547

    https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount/status/1072272686112538630

    There seemed to be some sympathy a few years ago for people with high functioning Asperger’s and how they sometimes struggle with the world and fall behind in their potential. But I suppose nerds and the socially awkward are the enemy now. Those damn nerds running around being lonely incels, at our expense! They can’t keep getting away with this!

    It’s just amazing. What did this guy do? Respond to the provocations of oblivious borderlines?

    That is the new essence of the universal debating ground of social media. High functioning autism versus BPD. Those two phenotypes form the backbone of the keyboard warriors.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The shortest explanation for why anybody would want to exterminate whites in the first place is "to eliminate competition."
    Imagine being one of our clueless tech magnates (the current ones like Pool or Pichai, not the people who actually built the companies and knew what they were doing) and watching a video of Mr von Abele doing math.
    , @Richard S
    Yikes I’ll have to take it on faith that this genius wee nerdling is clarifying something to someone..
  178. Demographers have increased – AGAIN! – their population projections for Africa at the Year 2100 to a staggering, and quite sickening, four billion, from just under a billion today. Assuming a steady compounding exponential growth, that means it doubles to two billion by around 2060, then doubles again. Applying the “Rule of 72” and a forty year doubling gives an annual growth rate of a seemingly harmless 1.75%. An appreciation of compound growth tells you that is an illusion but as bad as the results are, you know it’ll be worse – much worse. Assume a more plausible 3% – still below the outright “breed like rats” rate of which the Third World has proven itself quite capable – and you’ve added another doubling, and up to another 50% increase on top of that. So, you’re looking at three doublings to eight billion with four billion more added on for twelve billion. Twelve billion is the TOTAL at which the “experts” assure us total world population will “stabilize.” That’s just Africa. So, you have three scenarios: a human mass crawling over the planet like cockroaches on a rapidly dwindling pile of garbage, mass starvation, or mass genocide. The Libtards are hoping for the first option: nobody kills anyone else; instead they all sing Kumbaya while “sharing scarcity.” Anyone with a brain knows that ain’t gonna happen.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational

  179. Attention to all Sailer regulars:

    brought to you courtesy of Deutsche Welle: Digital Solutions for Africans by Africans

  180. @Altai
    Has Steve heard about the young awkward genius at Colombia who got tired of being told to feel about for being white and some neon-haired BPD who doesn't understand limits to their own sadism went and put him on Twitter to which all the other SJWs (including a special guest appearance from Tim Wise!) crow about annihilating his whole future?

    https://twitter.com/vivareturned/status/1072551782247817216

    https://twitter.com/USUprising/status/1071973810017132547

    https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount/status/1072272686112538630

    There seemed to be some sympathy a few years ago for people with high functioning Asperger's and how they sometimes struggle with the world and fall behind in their potential. But I suppose nerds and the socially awkward are the enemy now. Those damn nerds running around being lonely incels, at our expense! They can't keep getting away with this!

    It's just amazing. What did this guy do? Respond to the provocations of oblivious borderlines?

    That is the new essence of the universal debating ground of social media. High functioning autism versus BPD. Those two phenotypes form the backbone of the keyboard warriors.

    The shortest explanation for why anybody would want to exterminate whites in the first place is “to eliminate competition.”
    Imagine being one of our clueless tech magnates (the current ones like Pool or Pichai, not the people who actually built the companies and knew what they were doing) and watching a video of Mr von Abele doing math.

  181. @istevefan
    Didn't she write the book, 'Adios America'?

    Print Length: 400 pages
    Publisher: Regnery Publishing
    Publication Date: June 1, 2015

    June 2015; Sometimes life is delightfully poetic — this is the very same month the MAGA movement was born (June 16, 2015: Trump announces his campaign by alleging Mexico is not sending its best). She couldn’t have known what was to come.

    (See here for the MAGA epitaph [#230].)

    Needless to say, Ann would never would have published the same book in 2005…though, as others have said above, it was really an idea whose time had come by the period 2000 to 2005. VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Ann posted many anti amnesty articles when Bush was pushing it in 2006:

    Ezposing the fake tough "back taxes" lie that Rubio and friends revived in 2015:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-31.html

    Praising Brimlow:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-17.html

    The truth about low human capital migrants:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-04-12.html

    Refuting Prop 187 myths:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2007-11-28.html
    , @istevefan

    VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.
     
    Also, give credit to Patrick Buchanan who has written several books over the past 20 years or so that thoroughly covered this subject. With all respect to Sailer, Pat is my all-time favorite on this topic.
  182. @Beckow
    If colonialism had not happened one could argue that the 22 to 200 million wouldn't happen. If we extrapolate at least 2-3 billion people living today in the Third World wouldn't be there (food, hygiene, disease control and other basics would prevent it).

    Colonialism (and slavery) were worse than evil, they were a stupid evil. Today we have comparable Western activities of searching for the cheapest possible labor anywhere in the world and the mindless 'democracy', 'human rights', etc... interventions around the world. It always backfires, an advanced civilization has to be self-confident enough to isolate itself - mixing with less advanced cultures brings it down.

    But if people are unable to control their own out-of-control and short-sighted elites - as was the case under colonialism and is today - what kind of an advanced civilisation is it?

    If colonialism had not happened one could argue that the 22 to 200 million wouldn’t happen.

    Much of this is path independent: Sweden and Germany weren’t much into slavery and colonialism, and they are abolishing themselves regardless.

    The diffusion of tech in the modern world means that Pandora’s box eventually gets opened, so you better be able to defend yourself like Japan et al.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  183. @Altai
    Has Steve heard about the young awkward genius at Colombia who got tired of being told to feel about for being white and some neon-haired BPD who doesn't understand limits to their own sadism went and put him on Twitter to which all the other SJWs (including a special guest appearance from Tim Wise!) crow about annihilating his whole future?

    https://twitter.com/vivareturned/status/1072551782247817216

    https://twitter.com/USUprising/status/1071973810017132547

    https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount/status/1072272686112538630

    There seemed to be some sympathy a few years ago for people with high functioning Asperger's and how they sometimes struggle with the world and fall behind in their potential. But I suppose nerds and the socially awkward are the enemy now. Those damn nerds running around being lonely incels, at our expense! They can't keep getting away with this!

    It's just amazing. What did this guy do? Respond to the provocations of oblivious borderlines?

    That is the new essence of the universal debating ground of social media. High functioning autism versus BPD. Those two phenotypes form the backbone of the keyboard warriors.

    Yikes I’ll have to take it on faith that this genius wee nerdling is clarifying something to someone..

  184. @Anon
    OT: University of NC teachers are on a grade-strike, threatening to withhold their students' grades if a Confederate monument isn't banned.

    https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2018/12/11/carolina-teachers-refuse-release-students-final-grades-unless-school-bans-confederate-monument/

    All these teachers need to be fired. The students are just pawns, and the students can now sue their teachers and the university for this. The students paid good money for that education, and the teachers have no legal right to withhold grades or threaten their own administration like this. The students now have grounds for a class action lawsuit.

    All these teachers need to be fired.

    This. Modern teachers are totally worthless. The same movements that lead them to weaponize and politicize everything also drive their profession to a para-automated joke. A while back NPR had a decent bit of reporting about a rare good teacher getting interrogated by the education department Stasis over exactly why she thought it was acceptable to use a conceptual illustration that did not come from the latest teacher’s manual.
    If they’re just automatons depending on the manual, then fire every last one and share copies of the manual. If they want to turn everything into a political statement, then fire every last one and you lose nothing you would have had anyway.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  185. @Anon
    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

    But it is a one-way street, the VRA has never been used to order California and Massachusetts to draw districts that would allow white conservatives to be elected. (A proportional representation system would suffice).

    Conservative are the most law-abiding, productive and patriotic group in the US, but they have no cultural representation in the media or in academia. Nor do they have any meaningful influence in the major cities where they pay a wildly disproportionate share of taxes.

    The Voting Rights Act has been used to mandate gerrymandered districts so non-whites can elect a candidate of their ethnicity.

    Yes, and anyone who’s taken Gerrymandering 101 knows that this is suicide for one’s own party, and a gift to the other. That’s why white Democrats from the South are nearly absent from Congress.

    Democrats realized this and are trying to walk it back. You want to win your districts by 10%, and the other guy to win by as close to 100% as you can arrange. That way, you get more seats.

  186. @Ibound1
    It is easy to see after the fact. Ann sees after the fact. After 9/11 Bush could have had any immigration controls he wanted, any Wall we needed, any visa system necessary - even an end to birthright citizenship. Instead we invited more of them to come here and we spent trillions invading Muslim countries. Ann cheered and cheered and cheered. Freedom Fries! Remember them? (Cant use the word French because they opposed us invading Iraq). Not a word then from Ann about a Wall, about immigration reform. Not a word. Instead she takes her frustrations out on Trump, the only person who even has tried to do anything - with no party support. Now that it is pretty much too late, Ann has crystal clear vision.

    Coulter is right now and that’s what matters. Trump could have very easily sent back one of those budgets. It was the only chance and Trump blew it.

    I’m surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better. When Trump is gone and the smoke clears, a lot of people are going to be embarrassed by how taken they were with his bluster.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Trump mostly wasted his first 23 months, but he has better judges now.

    It has always been about executive branch action and Supreme Court. The Senate has had 65+ pro amnesty Senators for the past 20 years. Losing the House barely matters in the short to medium term as long as we hold the White House or take back the House in 2020.
    , @Hail

    I’m surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better
     
    I think the ethnonationalist wing of the MAGA movement at its peak (say, late summer 2015 to early 2017) has by now abandoned Trump for his lack of action.

    His core support base is now [1] low-information-voter White conservatives, and [2] the Cesar Sayocs out there (the dud mail bomber).
    , @Ibound1
    He’s already done more for conservatives in two years than W - Coulter’s Crush - did in eight. She’s wrong. Trump isn’t a dictator. He can’t simply build a wall. If people didn’t understand that when he was running, then they are, in fact, morons. The fact he is even discussing and doing something about the issue of H1Bs and refugees is better than anyone in the last 50 years. The fact he is trying to reverse Obama on DACA is better than anything Bush would have done.

    And he hasn’t invaded and bombed anyone. Did Coulter miss that? The Democrats and Neocons would be bombing Saudi Arabia over the killed Muslim brotherhood “journalist”.
  187. @GermanReader2
    The prom is that in subsahara Africa population growth outstrips growth of gdp, so they are effectively getting poorer.

    The downfall of America, as seen in prom pictures:

    The old America:

    The new America:

    (The latter was taken at a homecoming football game, not a prom, but never mind.)

  188. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @ATBOTL
    On a note related to population and migration, Kevin Williamson is stealing one of Steve's ideas, but horrifically garbling it:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/conservative-message-to-residents-metropolitan-areas-must-improve/

    The word "immigration" does not appear in a long article about the GOP losing cities. NR has learned nothing. Nothing.

    Has anyone else been reading NRO comments lately? They have a subscriber only comment section now, so basically only hardcore neocon true believers over the age of 60. All of the commenters are cucks. Some of the comments are really over the top, the last 10 years didn't happen type crazed cuckery .

    He's a juicy one by "Vitorious" from the linked article:


    "...Once you figure out that we are all capitalists just trying to get along and make money off one another, maybe you'll understand why we put so much focus on treating people right.

    I'm going to clear about $180 K this year, my first generation Vietnamese partners will do the same if not more because they are more ambitious. My Persian friend Shokoufa, she'll get a refund on her taxes bigger than my pay because she makes almost 10 times as much as me. My buddy Khash, he could buy and sell us all. Here is what we all have in common, every one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Once that part is understood, we can talk. Until then, we'll be over here making money. Feel free to go do whatever."



    BTW, on the topic of cucks and boomers, Free Republic is hysterically attacking Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter for pointing out that Trump didn't even try to get wall funding from Congress. Boomers never learn. Trump didn't really change those people much.

    It brings back memories of the Iraq War. The Boomercons of then, and some of the Silent Generation types that were active; were always saying that it was immoral and unpatriotic to criticize the President during wartime.

    Politically active types tend to get personally invested into candidates, and admitting that Trump is doing something wrong leads to people blaming themselves.

    Not everyone wants to live in complexity, a lot are content with a basic colorless world of moral dualism. They don’t want to be engaged citizens, they want a Caesar. I’m not going to condemn them for that.

    Fwiw, Free Republic probably banned reposting Steve Sailer long ago.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    You need to condemn them for that. We only made any progress in the last few years by relentlessly attacking and ridiculing the cucks. Stop making excuses for people who make bad decisions. There is no excuse. They need to be hectored until they stop giving a pass to sell out leaders.

    FR allowed some Steve Sailer and Vdare articles to be posted in the last couple of years. After Trump came on the scene, some paleo types showed up on FR, but they seem to have all been all been banned.

    The same couple dozen neocons that dominated FR ten to twenty years ago, plus a few new ones, totally dominate the discussion there. Literally the same accounts that were bashing Pat Buchanan and supporting amnesty around 2000 are still the main posters.
  189. @Hail

    Print Length: 400 pages
    Publisher: Regnery Publishing
    Publication Date: June 1, 2015
     
    June 2015; Sometimes life is delightfully poetic -- this is the very same month the MAGA movement was born (June 16, 2015: Trump announces his campaign by alleging Mexico is not sending its best). She couldn't have known what was to come.

    (See here for the MAGA epitaph [#230].)

    Needless to say, Ann would never would have published the same book in 2005...though, as others have said above, it was really an idea whose time had come by the period 2000 to 2005. VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.

    Ann posted many anti amnesty articles when Bush was pushing it in 2006:

    Ezposing the fake tough “back taxes” lie that Rubio and friends revived in 2015:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-31.html

    Praising Brimlow:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-17.html

    The truth about low human capital migrants:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-04-12.html

    Refuting Prop 187 myths:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2007-11-28.html

    • Replies: @Hail

    SE PUEDE GET TWO YEARS TAX-FREE!
    May 31, 2006
     
    I believe May 2006 was the very peak of the bipartisan amnesty push that was, as if by miracle, defeated in the end. It was very close (acc. to my recollection).

    Was the 2006 amnesty push Ann's turning point? Reading through the column 12.5 years later, she is not 2010s-Ann yet; "immigr-" is always preceded by "illegal."

    Lindsey Graham today called for a DACA amnesty quid-pro-quo for the wall.

  190. @ATBOTL
    Coulter is right now and that's what matters. Trump could have very easily sent back one of those budgets. It was the only chance and Trump blew it.

    I'm surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better. When Trump is gone and the smoke clears, a lot of people are going to be embarrassed by how taken they were with his bluster.

    Trump mostly wasted his first 23 months, but he has better judges now.

    It has always been about executive branch action and Supreme Court. The Senate has had 65+ pro amnesty Senators for the past 20 years. Losing the House barely matters in the short to medium term as long as we hold the White House or take back the House in 2020.

  191. @IHTG
    My guess is that the "impressive things" they'd like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping "constitutional crisis".

    Now tell me, why would a 72 year old baby boomer - a man who all things considered, has done pretty well in the United States as currently constituted - want to do that?

    My guess is that the “impressive things” they’d like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping “constitutional crisis”.

    Simply declare war on the Mexican cartels and send the 30,000 man Army Corps of Engineers to build the war. The President does not need Congressional approval for new wars until 3 weeks have passed, and Congressional inaction is the same as consent to continue a war (excuse me, police action/kinetic operation).

    • Replies: @IHTG
    I'm sure it's that simple.
  192. @Massimo Heitor

    Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because it’s an insane fantasy without even the remotest chance of happening?
     
    Why is it impossible? It seems like building a fallback strategy is important. I don't see what alternative you have.

    Why is it impossible? It seems like building a fallback strategy is important. I don’t see what alternative you have.

    How can we build anything when antifa/FBI/GOOG/TWTR break up our meetings, men’s groups, intellectual conferences and online forums? And impose long federal sentences with solitary confinement?

    The fallback tactic is the same as ever – white flight. To keep your sanity, turn off the news permanently and ensconce yourself near an elite locale that is guaranteed to keep its streets safe, or else go rural. Can’t afford Atherton? Cuddle up nearby in San Bruno. Can’t afford Boston? Try New Hampshire.

  193. @Lot
    Ann posted many anti amnesty articles when Bush was pushing it in 2006:

    Ezposing the fake tough "back taxes" lie that Rubio and friends revived in 2015:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-31.html

    Praising Brimlow:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-05-17.html

    The truth about low human capital migrants:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2006-04-12.html

    Refuting Prop 187 myths:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2007-11-28.html

    SE PUEDE GET TWO YEARS TAX-FREE!
    May 31, 2006

    I believe May 2006 was the very peak of the bipartisan amnesty push that was, as if by miracle, defeated in the end. It was very close (acc. to my recollection).

    Was the 2006 amnesty push Ann’s turning point? Reading through the column 12.5 years later, she is not 2010s-Ann yet; “immigr-” is always preceded by “illegal.”

    Lindsey Graham today called for a DACA amnesty quid-pro-quo for the wall.

  194. @ATBOTL
    Coulter is right now and that's what matters. Trump could have very easily sent back one of those budgets. It was the only chance and Trump blew it.

    I'm surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better. When Trump is gone and the smoke clears, a lot of people are going to be embarrassed by how taken they were with his bluster.

    I’m surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better

    I think the ethnonationalist wing of the MAGA movement at its peak (say, late summer 2015 to early 2017) has by now abandoned Trump for his lack of action.

    His core support base is now [1] low-information-voter White conservatives, and [2] the Cesar Sayocs out there (the dud mail bomber).

  195. The USA is a gigantic country.

    Does internal migration count?

    “Gonna buy me a horse. Just about this big. Ride’m all along the border line…”

  196. @ATBOTL
    On a note related to population and migration, Kevin Williamson is stealing one of Steve's ideas, but horrifically garbling it:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/conservative-message-to-residents-metropolitan-areas-must-improve/

    The word "immigration" does not appear in a long article about the GOP losing cities. NR has learned nothing. Nothing.

    Has anyone else been reading NRO comments lately? They have a subscriber only comment section now, so basically only hardcore neocon true believers over the age of 60. All of the commenters are cucks. Some of the comments are really over the top, the last 10 years didn't happen type crazed cuckery .

    He's a juicy one by "Vitorious" from the linked article:


    "...Once you figure out that we are all capitalists just trying to get along and make money off one another, maybe you'll understand why we put so much focus on treating people right.

    I'm going to clear about $180 K this year, my first generation Vietnamese partners will do the same if not more because they are more ambitious. My Persian friend Shokoufa, she'll get a refund on her taxes bigger than my pay because she makes almost 10 times as much as me. My buddy Khash, he could buy and sell us all. Here is what we all have in common, every one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Once that part is understood, we can talk. Until then, we'll be over here making money. Feel free to go do whatever."



    BTW, on the topic of cucks and boomers, Free Republic is hysterically attacking Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter for pointing out that Trump didn't even try to get wall funding from Congress. Boomers never learn. Trump didn't really change those people much.

    [E]very one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Like the Chinese of Malaysia, who attempt to bribe anti-Chinese race-rioters, who are happy to take the money and then attack them anyway. Here is a guy who believes in nothing and stands for nothing, because having a thought could mean lost profits.

  197. @Bill Jones
    I see Carlson made no mention of Trumps promises to end the middle east wars and establish normal relationships with Russia.

    The interviewer did not pose those questions. But yeah, those certainly are concerns of mine. I had hoped that the Middle East wars & a lessening of our involvement that he spoke of would have been for real, but he is in the grip of the Ziocons. And the Ziocons were not having any of this improved relations with Russia, and this proved to be a great stick with which to beat him, so no on that one either.

  198. istevefan says:
    @Hail

    Print Length: 400 pages
    Publisher: Regnery Publishing
    Publication Date: June 1, 2015
     
    June 2015; Sometimes life is delightfully poetic -- this is the very same month the MAGA movement was born (June 16, 2015: Trump announces his campaign by alleging Mexico is not sending its best). She couldn't have known what was to come.

    (See here for the MAGA epitaph [#230].)

    Needless to say, Ann would never would have published the same book in 2005...though, as others have said above, it was really an idea whose time had come by the period 2000 to 2005. VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.

    VDare and Steve Sailer (then scribbling away on the old iSteve.com) were holding the banners that Ann and Tucker have taken up of late.

    Also, give credit to Patrick Buchanan who has written several books over the past 20 years or so that thoroughly covered this subject. With all respect to Sailer, Pat is my all-time favorite on this topic.

  199. Blacks did it with more spunk.

  200. @Anon
    OT: University of NC teachers are on a grade-strike, threatening to withhold their students' grades if a Confederate monument isn't banned.

    https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2018/12/11/carolina-teachers-refuse-release-students-final-grades-unless-school-bans-confederate-monument/

    All these teachers need to be fired. The students are just pawns, and the students can now sue their teachers and the university for this. The students paid good money for that education, and the teachers have no legal right to withhold grades or threaten their own administration like this. The students now have grounds for a class action lawsuit.

    These are primarily university instructors, the lumpenproletariat of higher ed.

    These “contingent faculty”are generally a mix of grad students, part-timers, PhDs who have next to no chance of becoming professors, and others who cycle from one institution to another in the vain hope of one day attaining a lower-middle class standard of living.

    They tend to be bitter and desperate people, and they do most of the actual teaching in most universities . . . which explains a lot.

  201. istevefan says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Maybe Trump got a hold of the trenbolone that Lindsay Graham was using during the Kav hearing. He looked pretty solid against Chuck and Nancy today.

    But, Ive had enough of discussions, threats, and what have you. If Trump shows up in 2020 with "Build the Wall" stick a fork in him, he's done. If he can't hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    I asked today in a meeting what the plan was when the world decides to scrape together the funds for two plane tickets to Canada and starts pulling the shit that central americans are doing at the sw border up at the northern border.

    A lot of staring at hands. No one seems to be willing to confront an out of control judiciary.

    If Trump shows up in 2020 with “Build the Wall” stick a fork in him, he’s done. If he can’t hurry up and channel his inner Andrew Jackson. dealing with a rogue judiciary, same thing.

    Politicians have often made promises they failed to keep. You would think they would learn to keep their major promises. Even Rush Limbaugh told Trump during the 2016 campaign that the wall was a promise he must keep. You know Trump has to know this. Every rally he goes to, even the last one for the Mississippi run-off, the crowd breaks into the “build the wall” chant.

    He knows this is his signature issue. The media knows it. The democrats know it. The GOP knows it. Yet he hasn’t drawn the proverbial line in the sand. I can’t imagine that Trump is too dense to think he can just blow this issue off. So why has he continually been rolled on this issue? It just doesn’t make sense.

    Also, here is an eye-opening tweet about the number of legal migrants admitted over the past 3 years. These numbers are staggering and show that it is not just the wall, but ultimately a huge reduction in legal immigration is needed. Though these legal migrants cannot vote yet, they are now in the pipeline for citizenship if they so desire in 5 to 7 years.

    https://twitter.com/porter14159/status/1072508425244938241

  202. @dvorak

    My guess is that the “impressive things” they’d like to see tend to involve defying court orders and triggering a nation-ripping “constitutional crisis”.
     
    Simply declare war on the Mexican cartels and send the 30,000 man Army Corps of Engineers to build the war. The President does not need Congressional approval for new wars until 3 weeks have passed, and Congressional inaction is the same as consent to continue a war (excuse me, police action/kinetic operation).

    I’m sure it’s that simple.

  203. @Anon
    It's not easy to quit "aid", because aid is not what "aid" is.
    It is in reality one important part of today's well-perfumed, gilded colonialism.
    A big business benefiting a lot of non-African people, and the more powerful Africans. How do you think anyone is going to end that?

    It’s not easy to quit “aid”, because aid is not what “aid” is.
    It is in reality one important part of today’s well-perfumed, gilded colonialism.
    A big business benefiting a lot of non-African people, and the more powerful Africans. How do you think anyone is going to end that?

    It is this, the money interest, plus the Yeshuans. All the two hundred million bible thumpers singing from the same choir book that Africans are “YHWH’s children” and it’s unChristian to allow them to reap what they’ve themselves sown. After all, “we’re all created in YHWH’s image” aren’t we?

  204. @Prester John
    Not surprised. Frankly, I never expected him to build a wall. I voted for him only to keep the Congenital Liar out of the White House and only incidentally because I happened to agree in principle with his views on immigration, the adverse effects of globalization and our overextended overseas military commitments (and as regards the latter two, nothing much has changed there either).

    Nope, not surprised at all.

    Same here. I had no idea that he’d be such a doormat for the generals, however.

  205. Well this is progress…now people who have never even set foot in America are demanding reparations. Their threat? If they don’t get reparations, they’ll set foot in America.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home

  206. @Saxon
    And what do you do when the higher standards of living doesn't lead to Africans becoming self-sufficient and just leads to them balllooning their numbers before more of them try to flood the European's homelands?

    No, all countries are not subject to mass immigration. We tended to historically call such events invasions and respond with the proper means of deterrence.

    They are ballooning their numbers currently, a European or Asian elite could manage this. We need the natural resources of Africa and it still has some sights worth seeing. My famous economics professor speculated that Africa would be re-colonised for its resources and as a zoo.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    My famous economics professor speculated that Africa would be re-colonised for its resources and as a zoo.
     
    I don't see it.  Westerners believe in "human rights" too much to recolonize Africa, and the Chinese will eat all the zoo animals.
  207. @ATBOTL
    On a note related to population and migration, Kevin Williamson is stealing one of Steve's ideas, but horrifically garbling it:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/conservative-message-to-residents-metropolitan-areas-must-improve/

    The word "immigration" does not appear in a long article about the GOP losing cities. NR has learned nothing. Nothing.

    Has anyone else been reading NRO comments lately? They have a subscriber only comment section now, so basically only hardcore neocon true believers over the age of 60. All of the commenters are cucks. Some of the comments are really over the top, the last 10 years didn't happen type crazed cuckery .

    He's a juicy one by "Vitorious" from the linked article:


    "...Once you figure out that we are all capitalists just trying to get along and make money off one another, maybe you'll understand why we put so much focus on treating people right.

    I'm going to clear about $180 K this year, my first generation Vietnamese partners will do the same if not more because they are more ambitious. My Persian friend Shokoufa, she'll get a refund on her taxes bigger than my pay because she makes almost 10 times as much as me. My buddy Khash, he could buy and sell us all. Here is what we all have in common, every one of us would rather make money than trouble.

    Once that part is understood, we can talk. Until then, we'll be over here making money. Feel free to go do whatever."



    BTW, on the topic of cucks and boomers, Free Republic is hysterically attacking Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter for pointing out that Trump didn't even try to get wall funding from Congress. Boomers never learn. Trump didn't really change those people much.

    I read Williamson’s article by substituting the word blacks for Muslims, fun thought experiment, but Israel is battling largely Muslims and Christians so we can get a hate with Muslims rather than focusing on the far more problematic blacks.

  208. @ic1000
    > “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive... We elected him to build the wall and deal with immigration… He’s not doing it.”

    Via Dreher, an excerpt from an interview of Tucker Carlson by the Swiss paper Die Weltwoche on this point:


    [Die Weltwoche reporter Urs Gehriger]: Do you think [Trump] has kept his promises? Has he achieved his goals?

    [Tucker Carlson]: No.

    [U.G.]: He hasn’t?

    [T.C.]: No. His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things... I’ve come to believe that Trump’s role is not as a conventional president who promises to get certain things achieved to the Congress and then does... I don’t think he’s capable of sustained focus. I don’t think he understands the system. I don’t think the Congress is on his side. I don’t think his own agencies support him. He’s not going to do that.

    I think Trump’s role is to begin the conversation about what actually matters. We were not having any conversation about immigration before Trump arrived in Washington. People were bothered about it in different places in the country. It’s a huge country, but that was not a staple of political debate at all. Trump asked basic questions like’ “Why don’t our borders work?” “Why should we sign a trade agreement and let the other side cheat?” Or my favorite of all, “What’s the point of NATO?” The point of NATO was to keep the Soviets from invading western Europe but they haven’t existed in 27 years, so what is the point? These are obvious questions that no one could answer.

    [U.G.]: Apart from asking these very important questions has he really achieved nothing?

    [T.C.]: Not much. Much less than he should have. I’ve come to believe he’s not capable of it.

    [U.G.]: Why should he be not capable?

    [T.C.]: Because the legislative process in this country by design is highly complex, and it’s designed to be complex as a way of diffusing power, because the people who framed our Constitution, founded our country, were worried about concentrations of power. They balanced it among the three branches and they made it very hard to make legislation. In order to do it you really have to understand how it works and you have to be very focused on getting it done, and [Trump] knows very little about the legislative process, hasn’t learned anything, and hasn’t surrounded himself with people that can get it done, hasn’t done all the things you need to do so. It’s mostly his fault that he hasn’t achieved those things.
     

    Trump has no experience of managing a large organisation or of government. He should have fired Rosenstein straight away and nixed Mueller before it began, he fails to address the nation and speak directly to the people, he foolishly thought he could work with Paul Ryan and he paid no attention to staffing. The US budget deficit is out of control and his foreign policy is as a neocon wet dream.

  209. @peterike

    So Asians are the least desirous of migration?

     

    Well there sure are a hell of a lot of Chinese in New York City, and more every day. But then again, if it's only 8% that want to migrate, that's still over 100 million people.

    We're doomed.

    So we don’t just need an end to birthright citizenship, we need another Chinese Exclusion Act?

    I’m down with that.

  210. @LondonBob
    They are ballooning their numbers currently, a European or Asian elite could manage this. We need the natural resources of Africa and it still has some sights worth seeing. My famous economics professor speculated that Africa would be re-colonised for its resources and as a zoo.

    My famous economics professor speculated that Africa would be re-colonised for its resources and as a zoo.

    I don’t see it.  Westerners believe in “human rights” too much to recolonize Africa, and the Chinese will eat all the zoo animals.

  211. @Anon
    It brings back memories of the Iraq War. The Boomercons of then, and some of the Silent Generation types that were active; were always saying that it was immoral and unpatriotic to criticize the President during wartime.

    Politically active types tend to get personally invested into candidates, and admitting that Trump is doing something wrong leads to people blaming themselves.

    Not everyone wants to live in complexity, a lot are content with a basic colorless world of moral dualism. They don't want to be engaged citizens, they want a Caesar. I'm not going to condemn them for that.

    Fwiw, Free Republic probably banned reposting Steve Sailer long ago.

    You need to condemn them for that. We only made any progress in the last few years by relentlessly attacking and ridiculing the cucks. Stop making excuses for people who make bad decisions. There is no excuse. They need to be hectored until they stop giving a pass to sell out leaders.

    FR allowed some Steve Sailer and Vdare articles to be posted in the last couple of years. After Trump came on the scene, some paleo types showed up on FR, but they seem to have all been all been banned.

    The same couple dozen neocons that dominated FR ten to twenty years ago, plus a few new ones, totally dominate the discussion there. Literally the same accounts that were bashing Pat Buchanan and supporting amnesty around 2000 are still the main posters.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I remember a big exodus from that site in 2003 at the time of the Iraq war. The people who left never came back.
  212. @ATBOTL
    Coulter is right now and that's what matters. Trump could have very easily sent back one of those budgets. It was the only chance and Trump blew it.

    I'm surprised at the psychological subservience to Trump, not only from older movement conservatives, but from alt-right people who should know better. When Trump is gone and the smoke clears, a lot of people are going to be embarrassed by how taken they were with his bluster.

    He’s already done more for conservatives in two years than W – Coulter’s Crush – did in eight. She’s wrong. Trump isn’t a dictator. He can’t simply build a wall. If people didn’t understand that when he was running, then they are, in fact, morons. The fact he is even discussing and doing something about the issue of H1Bs and refugees is better than anyone in the last 50 years. The fact he is trying to reverse Obama on DACA is better than anything Bush would have done.

    And he hasn’t invaded and bombed anyone. Did Coulter miss that? The Democrats and Neocons would be bombing Saudi Arabia over the killed Muslim brotherhood “journalist”.

  213. @Wilkey
    “Trump’s done. He hasn’t done anything impressive in a really long time. He has no intention of doing anything impressive. Every time we think he’s done something, it turns out to be a giant pig fart that was just supposed to look good."

    And why would he?

    There are two sides to the Republican Party - the business/rich people lobby that wants mass immigration and lower taxes on the rich, and the middle class, which (mostly) wants lower immigration.

    Trump got elected. The rich got what they wanted immediately - lower taxes. So what do we have left to haggle with in order to get lower immigration? Even lower taxes for the rich.

    Every damn time the Republicans win control of government the first "conservative" thing they do is cut taxes on rich people. It is also the last conservative thing they do.

    OT, an Unz Review idea inspired by the highly positive reaction to Wilkey’s comment:

    Agree: JohnnyWalker123, Mr. Rational, Hail, Lot, Mr McKenna

    Five Agrees, an exceptionally high number. This thread has 31 comments with at least one Agree (especially from super-Agreer Mr. Rational) and Wilkey’s comment has the most Agrees of any comment in this thread.

    There is value in highlighting these kinds of high-Agree-count comments*. There are some excellent comments in these comment sections and realistically speaking how many will ever see them if buried in a 300-comment thread.

    While there is currently an Endorsed Only button for individual comment-threads, it lists the ‘good’ in with the ‘bad’ and only applies to individual comment-sections:

    Display only followed commenters and comments with Agrees, Disagrees, or LOLs

    Here is what I think could be done (TLDR in bold):

    [MORE]

    There is currently a “Most Popular [articles/posts]” box on the front page of Unz.com (also toggle-able to “Most commented” and adjustable by day, week, and month); There may be value in a “Recent comments [for this author and/or across Unz.com] with the most Agrees” feature that runs in parallel, i.e., independent of specific posts or articles. It would allow these comments more visibility, especially to users not inclined to browse through long comment sections.

    Steve Sailer occasionally reposts particular useful or insightful comments either in new threads of their own or appends them to existing posts for greater visibility. This is a manual way to do it; creating an automatically generated “Most Agreed-to Comments” box is a crowdsourcing way to do the same and magnifies the value to the end-user (readers) of the core commentariat’s ‘work’ of identifying good content with the Agree button.

    __________________

    * There is also a risk: I recall that Ron Unz warning that any comments-sections onling are always at risk of falling into a popularity-contest trap of thumbs-upping and thumbs-downing (I believe he used the phrase “piling on”) which would be the opposite of useful for productive discourse. The safeguards he has in place have blunted this so far. Would a feature like that proposed above cause a slide into those undesirable conditions? I don’t know. What I do know is a lot of the very best comments aren’t (I assume) getting the views they deserve.

  214. @ATBOTL
    You need to condemn them for that. We only made any progress in the last few years by relentlessly attacking and ridiculing the cucks. Stop making excuses for people who make bad decisions. There is no excuse. They need to be hectored until they stop giving a pass to sell out leaders.

    FR allowed some Steve Sailer and Vdare articles to be posted in the last couple of years. After Trump came on the scene, some paleo types showed up on FR, but they seem to have all been all been banned.

    The same couple dozen neocons that dominated FR ten to twenty years ago, plus a few new ones, totally dominate the discussion there. Literally the same accounts that were bashing Pat Buchanan and supporting amnesty around 2000 are still the main posters.

    I remember a big exodus from that site in 2003 at the time of the Iraq war. The people who left never came back.

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