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Fortunately, 2010’s 33.0% was down from 2000’s 36.7% at the end of the Crack Era.

I wonder what has happened since? In the mid-2010s, The Establishment decided to be nicer to black criminals, which would drive down the felony percentage. Unfortunately, black criminals, judging by the ~40% rise in murders in the years since Ferguson, started acting up more, which would drive up the felony percentage.

This is from Demography:

The Growth, Scope, and Spatial Distribution of People With Felony Records in the United States, 1948–2010

Sarah K. S. Shannon 1 & Christopher Uggen 2 & Jason Schnittker 3 & Melissa Thompson 4 & Sara Wakefield 5 & Michael Massoglia 6 Published online: 11 September 2017

 
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  1. How many of those are for possession?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @obwandiyag


    How many of those are for possession?
     
    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can't prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with "gun show loophole". Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous

    , @cosMICjester
    @obwandiyag

    Barely any. Orcs usually have records a mile long before they do any time. I'm sure u already knew that.

    , @Oscar Peterson
    @obwandiyag


    "How many of those are for possession?"
     
    You mean possession of other people's property?
  2. 33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record

    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.

    In brighter news, “Viva Frei” is running on an anti-lockdown platform on Maxime Bernier’s party line:

    Good luck, David. This is the breakdown of his riding:

    Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Westmount

    Languages (2016 mother tongue) : 41.5% English, 26.0% French, 3.6% Spanish, 3.2% Mandarin, 2.9% Arabic, 2.9% Farsi, 2.6% Italian, 2.1% Russian, 2.0% Romanian, 1.2% Korean, 1.1% Tagalog, 0.8% Polish, 0.8% German, 0.7% Greek, 0.7% Portuguese, 0.6% Cantonese, 0.4% Hungarian, 0.4% Bulgarian, 0.4% Vietnamese

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame-de-Gr%C3%A2ce%E2%80%94Westmount

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Reg Cæsar


    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.
     
    Riddle me this:

    What does Stacey Abrams call a convicted (negro) felon who has been disenfranchised?

    A voter! Or two, or three.
    , @J1234
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for the news about Viva. I haven't been on his channel for a while. Best wishes to him.


    " 33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record"

    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.
     

    It's my impression that neither of those restrictions seem to matter.
  3. @Reg Cæsar

    33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record
     
    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.

    In brighter news, "Viva Frei" is running on an anti-lockdown platform on Maxime Bernier's party line:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZpc8B4MTAo


    Good luck, David. This is the breakdown of his riding:

    Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Westmount

    Languages
    (2016 mother tongue) : 41.5% English, 26.0% French, 3.6% Spanish, 3.2% Mandarin, 2.9% Arabic, 2.9% Farsi, 2.6% Italian, 2.1% Russian, 2.0% Romanian, 1.2% Korean, 1.1% Tagalog, 0.8% Polish, 0.8% German, 0.7% Greek, 0.7% Portuguese, 0.6% Cantonese, 0.4% Hungarian, 0.4% Bulgarian, 0.4% Vietnamese

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame-de-Gr%C3%A2ce%E2%80%94Westmount
     

    Replies: @James Speaks, @J1234

    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.

    Riddle me this:

    What does Stacey Abrams call a convicted (negro) felon who has been disenfranchised?

    A voter! Or two, or three.

    • LOL: InnerCynic
  4. Life would get much, much better for blacks if we’d adopt a very tough-on-crime regime and imprisoned/executed/expelled every criminal we could get our hands on.

    Beyond personal genetics, the #1 thing that makes black people’s lives more difficult is not white racism, but being around other blacks who are assholes.

  5. Well, we’re nothing if not consistent! All of us.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/33-of-adult-male-african-americans-have-felony-convictions/

    Some good remarks in the comments regarding how very malleable such statistics can be, not to mention subject to manipulation.

    Of course, you can always take the MSM approach, which is simply to ignore any and all stats you don’t like. Then add that only bad people quote stats you don’t like.

  6. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    What about the percentage of black women with felony records?

    This one just got caught beating the white rice out of multiple Asians in a row, with currently little in the way of Asian outrage.

    I guess stoically accepting random beatings predominantly by black people is an Asian thing I’ll never understand…

    https://nypost.com/2021/07/23/maricia-bell-arrested-for-anti-asian-attacks-left-four-injured-in-queens-over-course-of-months/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    What about the percentage of black women with felony records?
     
    Assuming that the number of black women equals that of black men, one can derive the female percentage by subtracting the male percentage from the total (i.e. average) percentage multiplied by two. The female rate then comes out as 13.83% in 2010.
  7. Coleman Hughes pretty much sums it all up in the first 6 minutes.

    Until the black community realizes they are being used by liberals nothing changes.

  8. Let me repeat a previous post.

    The above chart is based on national juvenile arrest statistics. The 2020 numbers haven’t been released yet, but we have the figures up through 2019.

    The juvenile arrest rate has fallen by around 75% from the mid/late 90s through 2019. So a juvenile growing up in the mid/late 90s was 4 times MORE likely to be arrested than a 2019 juvenile. Which is an amazing difference.

    Even if you compare 2006 to 2019, a 2006 juvenile was roughly 3x as likely to be arrested. What a change.

    The above chart shows arrest rates by ethnicity. The White arrest rate fell even more quickly than the Black rate.

  9. “I wonder what has happened since? In the mid-2010s, The Establishment decided to be nicer to black criminals, which would drive down the felony percentage. ”

    The use of compstat has also allowed police and city halls to cook the books on the extent of violent black criminality.

  10. Anon[976] • Disclaimer says:

    Ateve, for most of the past 20 years, the crime rate has declined, and you know that. The crime rate also declined after the Ferguson bump, and will decline after the Floyd bump, as well. You gotta stop coping with the black male felony BS. Black crime is a thing of the past and they’re much better off than they were in the 1990s.

    • Disagree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Black murders declined during the Jeff Sessions Era after all the BLM killings of cops in 2016 helped get Trump elected. But they are up dramatically over all in the 2014-2021 era.

    Replies: @europeasant, @Truth

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Anon

    The last time the establishment had opinions on crime like this, it led to the 1990s.

  11. @Anon
    Ateve, for most of the past 20 years, the crime rate has declined, and you know that. The crime rate also declined after the Ferguson bump, and will decline after the Floyd bump, as well. You gotta stop coping with the black male felony BS. Black crime is a thing of the past and they're much better off than they were in the 1990s.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Redneck farmer

    Black murders declined during the Jeff Sessions Era after all the BLM killings of cops in 2016 helped get Trump elected. But they are up dramatically over all in the 2014-2021 era.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    @Steve Sailer

    Chicago is on track for 800 homicides and over 4,000 shot for the year 2021. One guess who is doing all the killing? No itz not the Amish.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

    , @Truth
    @Steve Sailer

    And in most places:

    https://kfor.com/news/local/study-oklahoma-3rd-in-the-nation-for-women-killed-by-men/

    https://www.nrcc.org/2021/06/23/sacramento-murders-increase-dems-pro-crime-agenda-unpopular/

    https://abc30.com/fresno-violence-murders-murder-rate/10445972/

    https://www.citizensjournal.us/ventura-has-an-increase-in-violent-crimes-while-property-crimes-decrease-slightly-during-mid-year-statistics/
    https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/

    https://www.kpbs.org/news/2021/jun/30/san-diego-police-six-month-surge-violent-crime/

    https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/homicides-spike-in-tucson

    https://www.phoenix.gov/newsroom/police/1575

    https://www.westword.com/news/denver-union-station-neighborhood-murder-violent-crime-doubles-july-2021-12036822
    https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/n/union-station-denver-co/residents/

    Must be a lot of Trayvon Martin fans in Sacramento and Tucson and Ventura County...

  12. @Anon
    Ateve, for most of the past 20 years, the crime rate has declined, and you know that. The crime rate also declined after the Ferguson bump, and will decline after the Floyd bump, as well. You gotta stop coping with the black male felony BS. Black crime is a thing of the past and they're much better off than they were in the 1990s.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Redneck farmer

    The last time the establishment had opinions on crime like this, it led to the 1990s.

  13. It seems odd that people will argue that there are too many black men in prison. Obviously, there are too few. Otherwise, black neighborhoods would be the safest neighborhoods of all. Should that ever become the case, only then can we afford to wonder whether blacks were being over-incarcerated.

  14. @Anonymous
    What about the percentage of black women with felony records?

    This one just got caught beating the white rice out of multiple Asians in a row, with currently little in the way of Asian outrage.

    I guess stoically accepting random beatings predominantly by black people is an Asian thing I’ll never understand…

    https://nypost.com/2021/07/23/maricia-bell-arrested-for-anti-asian-attacks-left-four-injured-in-queens-over-course-of-months/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Steve Sailer


    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.
     
    They've heard about prison food.
    , @Paperback Writer
    @Steve Sailer

    And have very good infant mortality rates.

    Maybe Arnold Schwartzenegger had the right idea?

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Steve Sailer

    Why exactly?

    , @TruthHurts2k21
    @Steve Sailer

    Except with their kids. Hitting your kids with flip flops when they misbehave is pretty common.

    , @InnerCynic
    @Steve Sailer

    Surely you jest. Take that tongue out of your cheek, Steve.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Steve Sailer

    Just don't touch their mustaches...

  15. How does the percentage of black men with criminal records now compare with the percentage before the mid-60s, when the Warren Court decided to gift blacks and the rest of us with a new, so much more just criminal justice system?

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
  16. Previous generations are owed an enormous apology and admission of wrongdoing from the evil fools who ended segregation.

  17. @obwandiyag
    How many of those are for possession?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @cosMICjester, @Oscar Peterson

    How many of those are for possession?

    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can’t prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with “gun show loophole”. Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's almost as if people are put in prison for being violent drug dealers but, due to "Snitches get stitches," the cops can't quite prove that.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Harry Baldwin, @TWS

    , @Truth
    @Jim Don Bob


    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that.

     

    Uh, no, Billy Joe Jim Bob.
    https://www.drugtreatment.com/expose/marijuana-felony-amounts-by-state/

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/22/four-in-ten-u-s-drug-arrests-in-2018-were-for-marijuana-offenses-mostly-possession/

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jim Don Bob


    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can’t prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.
     
    I think a distinction is made by the amount. So if you're stopped and the cop finds a small baggie, then it's treated as a minor offense. If the cop finds 15 pounds of a controlled substance, then the intent to distribute/deal is presumed by virtue of the amount.
    , @Anonymous
    @Jim Don Bob

    It is absolutely true that you're not going to find someone doing a lot of time for a drug possession charge, if that's their only conviction. Certainly they don't go to state prisons. Offenders in state prison systems did a lot to get there and the "he was just driving around with a joint and got ten years" is an absolute myth.

    However, there are plenty of felony drug possession statutes, some for small amounts of drugs, and if you are convicted of one you are then a felon. You might never spend a day in jail but you were convicted of a felony.

  18. Until the recent similar post, I thought “felon” meant actually serving a year or more in prison by definition. Silly me.

    So “former felon” means they’re no longer on parole or probation, not that the charge was expunged?

  19. @Jim Don Bob
    @obwandiyag


    How many of those are for possession?
     
    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can't prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with "gun show loophole". Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous

    It’s almost as if people are put in prison for being violent drug dealers but, due to “Snitches get stitches,” the cops can’t quite prove that.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Steve Sailer

    When I had jury duty in Alexandria VA in 1991, they were using an undercover state policeman to get street crack dealers. Minimum 5 years for $20 sale. In deliberations, another juror complained about the cop's attitude, having seen him in a previous trial of his attackers when he'd blown his cover. The judge had warned us not to mix the trials' evidence, so I let her have it. Sounded just like my father.

    They should have charged $19.95.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    From NPR's "Fesh Air" interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:


    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn't get talked about enough because there's I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations - petty stuff that doesn't do a lot of harm, and yet there's a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there's a tremendous amount of violence. There's a tremendous amount of impunity, and it's, as I say, semi-furtive. It's well known to everybody in this small enclave who's doing stuff, who's boasting about it, who's dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They're part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so's a shooter and so-and-so's a rider, and they're frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He's in a gang. He's selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that's shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It's almost - when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It's - the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it's easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole - that is low-hanging fruit. It's easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.
     

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind, @Henry Canaday

    , @TWS
    @Steve Sailer

    Here's how it works; the guy gets popped for assault, theft, robbery etc. At all times criminals are carrying drugs, on drugs, have paraphernalia on them etc. Most areas don't want to lock up most criminals, despite what you hear about the criminal justice complex, it costs through the nose to lock them up. Prison industries never pay for themselves, they're not allowed to in most states. Private industry would never stand for it.

    Anyway, you got Jamal Felon on whatever charge you picked him up for, usually 'showing his ass' in public in some boneheaded way. You can send him to trial (in theory) but in practice no way, no how you can try everybody. Since the sixties it's extremely difficult to get a conviction quickly. Oh, you can get one, it's possible, but not certain and for certain sure you would grind the courts to a stand still. That's why the system offers most of them the carrot and stick. The carrot is they offer to drop the charges down to drugs for everything and anything. If you're lucky they'll give you a lax probation and treatment. The stick is that if you force them to take you to trial, they'll drop the hammer on you four or eight times the sentence for the same crime if you plead guilty.

    Funny thing is that the criminals know this. But they aren't willing to risk the stick in the certainty they would crash the system if they all forced a trial.

    They would be released. All of them from the lowest to the highest. They would only be able to hold and try the most serious crimes or most infamous. Kyle Rittenhouse will be tried, if they don't offer a plea, and like Chauvan, he'll be guilty.

    If you smoke pot in your home and do not beat your wife and kids or commit some other crime, you'll never be prosecuted. Many low level dealers are known but ignored. Users? Nobody cares.

    I've worked in the system for three decades my uncle's were cops, my grandfather, great grandfather, all worked in law enforcement back to the wild west days.

    My son's a cop. He arrested the same dirt bags I did. I've seen seven million in theft from the state reduced to drug therapy. Think about that.

  20. So much criminality … yet conservative cucks like David Brooks ignore it and write articles like “How racist is America?” Any honest country would shine a bright spotlight on POC criminality and its enablers, and do something about it.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Anon

    Keeping murderers and violent rapists in a cage is a luxury we won't long be able to afford. At some point we're going to either get some work out of those people or use the inexpensive and permanent solution proven effective by our ancestors. In addition to saving untold millions/billions, it will soothe the families of the victims and, to some extent, give the criminal pause before committing the act. That Black men would likely be "overrepresented" might highlight the issue we're facing trying to live with these people. Over time, this might be the only way to "close the gap". "Tyrone, you better get your butt in school/get a job or you'll end up like hanged like your cousin Jamal".

    , @AceDeuce
    @Anon

    Even smart Whites, when they do speak out a little, are on the defensive "Whites aren't that bad-please like us, negroes" Although this is much improved over even 15-20 years ago, when Whites didn't dare utter a peep. We must not confine our speech to only defending ourselves, but, as you said, need to talk about how toxic blacks are, and how destructive.

  21. Almost a decade ago, I noted the remarkable but widely ignored implications of our official Census data:

    A sense of the real world impact of these grim statistics may be found in the stratified 2011 Census-ACS data for major American cities. The three urban centers with the largest black populations are New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia, and together they contain over one-third more adult black women than black men. The corresponding national shortfall of black males runs well into the millions, partly accounting for the notorious “marriage gap” problems faced by women of their background. Those millions of missing black men are generally dead or in prison.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/

  22. Here’s an interesting trend from that chart: while the percentage of black male felons is down by roughly 3 percentage points from 2000 to 2020, the percentage of total black adult felons is up by 2 percentage points during the same time period. Translation – black females are becoming a lot more felonious.

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    There's must become more aggressive to fight for a male.

  23. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    They’ve heard about prison food.

  24. @Anon
    So much criminality ... yet conservative cucks like David Brooks ignore it and write articles like "How racist is America?" Any honest country would shine a bright spotlight on POC criminality and its enablers, and do something about it.

    Replies: @Neuday, @AceDeuce

    Keeping murderers and violent rapists in a cage is a luxury we won’t long be able to afford. At some point we’re going to either get some work out of those people or use the inexpensive and permanent solution proven effective by our ancestors. In addition to saving untold millions/billions, it will soothe the families of the victims and, to some extent, give the criminal pause before committing the act. That Black men would likely be “overrepresented” might highlight the issue we’re facing trying to live with these people. Over time, this might be the only way to “close the gap”. “Tyrone, you better get your butt in school/get a job or you’ll end up like hanged like your cousin Jamal”.

  25. 33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record

    Begging the question, do these same black men STILL have the felony records, or were they expunged due to reasons? Like the ever popular “they were removed due to Covid” reason.

  26. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Black murders declined during the Jeff Sessions Era after all the BLM killings of cops in 2016 helped get Trump elected. But they are up dramatically over all in the 2014-2021 era.

    Replies: @europeasant, @Truth

    Chicago is on track for 800 homicides and over 4,000 shot for the year 2021. One guess who is doing all the killing? No itz not the Amish.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @europeasant

    I'm sorry that you feel the need to peddle racist disinformation. Check your privilege and educate yourself.

    "A top advisor to Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told reporters last month that it’s a “misconception” to say gun violence is skyrocketing in Chicago."

    Replies: @europeasant, @europeasant

    , @Truth
    @europeasant

    By the end of the year it will DEFINITELY be the Honkees.

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/really-surprising-vaccinated-chicago-man-who-got-covid-after-vacation-warns-others/2555320/

  27. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    And have very good infant mortality rates.

    Maybe Arnold Schwartzenegger had the right idea?

  28. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    Why exactly?

  29. Its Divine Right of Kangz. Black people have a right in the Constitution of 1964 to do whatever they want to lesser races. Like Whites.

  30. @Reg Cæsar

    33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record
     
    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.

    In brighter news, "Viva Frei" is running on an anti-lockdown platform on Maxime Bernier's party line:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZpc8B4MTAo


    Good luck, David. This is the breakdown of his riding:

    Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Westmount

    Languages
    (2016 mother tongue) : 41.5% English, 26.0% French, 3.6% Spanish, 3.2% Mandarin, 2.9% Arabic, 2.9% Farsi, 2.6% Italian, 2.1% Russian, 2.0% Romanian, 1.2% Korean, 1.1% Tagalog, 0.8% Polish, 0.8% German, 0.7% Greek, 0.7% Portuguese, 0.6% Cantonese, 0.4% Hungarian, 0.4% Bulgarian, 0.4% Vietnamese

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame-de-Gr%C3%A2ce%E2%80%94Westmount
     

    Replies: @James Speaks, @J1234

    Thanks for the news about Viva. I haven’t been on his channel for a while. Best wishes to him.

    ” 33% of Black Men in 2010 Had a Felony Record”

    Which means they could neither vote nor obtain a firearms permit. Funny, though, how only one of these restrictions seems to matter.

    It’s my impression that neither of those restrictions seem to matter.

  31. The Fergu-Trayv-Ahmad-George-Fl-… Thing, Steve, it’s nasty…

    https://www.abqreport.com/single-post/three-more-homicides

    Albuquerque Population by Race (2018 Census Data):
    White: 73.5%
    American Indian and Alaskan Native: 4.6%
    Black or African American: 3.2%
    Asian: 2.8%
    Hispanic or Latino: 49.0%
    Two or more races: 4.5%
    White alone, not Hispanic or Latino: 39.4%

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-states-in-the-u-s.html

    • Replies: @europeasant
    @Truth

    Here is Albuquerque's most wanted. Out of nine only one is Caucasian.
    And no Beltran, Francisco is not Caucasian.

    http://www.crimestoppersnm.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=wanteds&ID=531

    Here is the FBI most wanted. Take a look and there are no surprises.

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/wanted

    I spent a week in the area recently and all the three murder suspects were Hispanic.

    Replies: @Truth, @OP

  32. Anonymous[735] • Disclaimer says:

    There are record numbers of black men demanding illegal entrance into the country at the Mexican border. And yet we are told that this country is built around “white supremacy” or at the very least “whiteness.” Which is true. The whole point of this country was to be a place for Northwestern Europeans.

    Illegal immigrants or illegal aliens do not cut it as terms for this phenomenon; because the left is right about one thing. There is essentially no difference between illegal 3rd world immigrants and legal 3rd world immigrants. At the end of the day, it is just non-white people seeking whiteness. PSW’s. Person Seeking Whiteness.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonymous


    There are record numbers of black men demanding illegal entrance into the country at the Mexican border.
     
    Oh really?

    How long has someone been keeping this "record?"
  33. @Jim Don Bob
    @obwandiyag


    How many of those are for possession?
     
    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can't prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with "gun show loophole". Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Truth

    'If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that.

    'Uh, no, Billy Joe Jim Bob.
    https://www.drugtreatment.com/expose/marijuana-felony-amounts-by-state/

    'https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/22/four-in-ten-u-s-drug-arrests-in-2018-were-for-marijuana-offenses-mostly-possession/

    Neither one of those links demonstrates that many actually receive a felony conviction for marijuana possession.

  34. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    Except with their kids. Hitting your kids with flip flops when they misbehave is pretty common.

  35. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's almost as if people are put in prison for being violent drug dealers but, due to "Snitches get stitches," the cops can't quite prove that.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Harry Baldwin, @TWS

    When I had jury duty in Alexandria VA in 1991, they were using an undercover state policeman to get street crack dealers. Minimum 5 years for $20 sale. In deliberations, another juror complained about the cop’s attitude, having seen him in a previous trial of his attackers when he’d blown his cover. The judge had warned us not to mix the trials’ evidence, so I let her have it. Sounded just like my father.

    They should have charged $19.95.

  36. ASIAN man who is also a COP punches what I am assuming is a BLACK! man for calling him an ANTI-ASIAN HATE SLUR.

    What will the MSM narrative ultimately be on this? And how, exactly, will whites be blamed?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-sergeant-accused-assaulting-man-165100482.html

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @JimDandy


    ASIAN man who is also a COP punches what I am assuming is a BLACK! man for calling him an ANTI-ASIAN HATE SLUR.
     

    As “the man continued to taunt Wong, and then shouted, 'I can’t breathe,' Wong responded, 'I don’t give a f--- if you can breathe or not,' and punched the man in the side of the face," according to Vance.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-sergeant-accused-assaulting-man-165100482.html
     
    Even (assumed) Blacks know "I can't breath" is a canard for the society's dumb asses.
  37. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's almost as if people are put in prison for being violent drug dealers but, due to "Snitches get stitches," the cops can't quite prove that.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Harry Baldwin, @TWS

    From NPR’s “Fesh Air” interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:

    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn’t get talked about enough because there’s I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations – petty stuff that doesn’t do a lot of harm, and yet there’s a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there’s a tremendous amount of violence. There’s a tremendous amount of impunity, and it’s, as I say, semi-furtive. It’s well known to everybody in this small enclave who’s doing stuff, who’s boasting about it, who’s dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They’re part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so’s a shooter and so-and-so’s a rider, and they’re frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He’s in a gang. He’s selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that’s shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It’s almost – when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It’s – the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it’s easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole – that is low-hanging fruit. It’s easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @Harry Baldwin

    "How many of the people doing time in prison are innocent?"

    "Innocent of the thing they were convicted for? Around five percent. Innocent of anything criminal at all? Fewer than one percent. Way fewer."

    https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/cops.html#innocent

    Replies: @Truth

    , @JimDandy
    @Harry Baldwin

    This is/was definitely a thing, at least to some extent. "You owe me time," was a phrase some cops sometimes used when they pinned a crime on some criminal who they knew had gotten away with a crime in the past. That's obviously unacceptable for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that the scumbag who actually committed the new crime gets away with it.

    Some cops are bad. Some cops are crooked. Many cops have planted evidence and suppressed evidence. All of that is terrible and should be stopped. But there is no evidence that these police tactics are racist in nature. And it doesn't really have anything to do with the "racial reckoning" that has been used to justify mass riots, etc. etc. etc. The essential facts remain: Cops aren't hunting down unarmed black men and murdering them for sport, and people who violently resist arrest are forfeiting their right to live.

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @Harry Baldwin

    Um, "getting Al Capone on tax evasion" is a thing?

    , @Henry Canaday
    @Harry Baldwin

    I think that is one, or maybe the major, purpose of the gun laws. Spot a known thug with a bulge in his waist-line, accost him, frisk him, get him with an illegal gun, and you can get him off the street for a while. Every DC trial I have been on the jury for has been an illegal gun-carrying trial. One was for a guy who had aleady done seven years for murder and was due for a major gang trial in seven months, but the cops wanted to get him back in prison faster than that. The other was for a 'good kid' who was beginning to hang with the wrong people, and the cops wanted to give a stiff warning of where he was headed.

  38. Additional information can be inferred from the above table. For instance, taking the data from 2010,
    Felons
    Total African American
    4,548,433 1,552,493
    % Adult population 1.94 5.28
    % Adult male pop. 3.26 7.86

    Thus, in 2010 the 4,548,433 felons (both male and female) were as numerous 1.94% of the adult population, so the adult population was (rounding off to the nearest integer) 4,548,433/.0194 = 234,300,670 adults. Similarly, the 1,552,493 African American felons were as numerous as 5.28% of the adult population, making the adult population 1,552,493/.0528 = 29,403,277 adults. Huh? Where did 234,300,670 – 29,403,277 = 204,897,393 adults disappear to? What am I doing wrong here? (And why can’t I copy the spacing in the table?)

  39. Edsall is getting close; maybe it’s the summer sun simmering through the rain showers.

    I say:

    Jump right in cannonball style; there ain’t no rocks and the water is nice and cold.

    Tweet from 2015:

  40. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    From NPR's "Fesh Air" interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:


    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn't get talked about enough because there's I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations - petty stuff that doesn't do a lot of harm, and yet there's a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there's a tremendous amount of violence. There's a tremendous amount of impunity, and it's, as I say, semi-furtive. It's well known to everybody in this small enclave who's doing stuff, who's boasting about it, who's dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They're part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so's a shooter and so-and-so's a rider, and they're frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He's in a gang. He's selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that's shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It's almost - when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It's - the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it's easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole - that is low-hanging fruit. It's easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.
     

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind, @Henry Canaday

    “How many of the people doing time in prison are innocent?”

    “Innocent of the thing they were convicted for? Around five percent. Innocent of anything criminal at all? Fewer than one percent. Way fewer.”

    https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/cops.html#innocent

    • Agree: AceDeuce, TWS
    • Replies: @Truth
    @John Derbyshire

    Thus Spoke Derbythustra...

  41. @Jim Don Bob
    @obwandiyag


    How many of those are for possession?
     
    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can't prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with "gun show loophole". Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous

    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can’t prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    I think a distinction is made by the amount. So if you’re stopped and the cop finds a small baggie, then it’s treated as a minor offense. If the cop finds 15 pounds of a controlled substance, then the intent to distribute/deal is presumed by virtue of the amount.

  42. TWS says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's almost as if people are put in prison for being violent drug dealers but, due to "Snitches get stitches," the cops can't quite prove that.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Harry Baldwin, @TWS

    Here’s how it works; the guy gets popped for assault, theft, robbery etc. At all times criminals are carrying drugs, on drugs, have paraphernalia on them etc. Most areas don’t want to lock up most criminals, despite what you hear about the criminal justice complex, it costs through the nose to lock them up. Prison industries never pay for themselves, they’re not allowed to in most states. Private industry would never stand for it.

    Anyway, you got Jamal Felon on whatever charge you picked him up for, usually ‘showing his ass’ in public in some boneheaded way. You can send him to trial (in theory) but in practice no way, no how you can try everybody. Since the sixties it’s extremely difficult to get a conviction quickly. Oh, you can get one, it’s possible, but not certain and for certain sure you would grind the courts to a stand still. That’s why the system offers most of them the carrot and stick. The carrot is they offer to drop the charges down to drugs for everything and anything. If you’re lucky they’ll give you a lax probation and treatment. The stick is that if you force them to take you to trial, they’ll drop the hammer on you four or eight times the sentence for the same crime if you plead guilty.

    Funny thing is that the criminals know this. But they aren’t willing to risk the stick in the certainty they would crash the system if they all forced a trial.

    They would be released. All of them from the lowest to the highest. They would only be able to hold and try the most serious crimes or most infamous. Kyle Rittenhouse will be tried, if they don’t offer a plea, and like Chauvan, he’ll be guilty.

    If you smoke pot in your home and do not beat your wife and kids or commit some other crime, you’ll never be prosecuted. Many low level dealers are known but ignored. Users? Nobody cares.

    I’ve worked in the system for three decades my uncle’s were cops, my grandfather, great grandfather, all worked in law enforcement back to the wild west days.

    My son’s a cop. He arrested the same dirt bags I did. I’ve seen seven million in theft from the state reduced to drug therapy. Think about that.

  43. I work in the oil field. Felons are everywhere because this is one of the last bastions where if you have a pulse you’re good to go. A fellow melanated coworker became abusive with me after he started his usual bitching and whining. Prior to this incident another deadlocked dumbass, who was a congenital bitcher and complainer, lost his shit when after another one of his bitch fests I said, in cynical jest, that he’d complain if they hanged him with a new rope. You can only imagine the tidal wave of hand wringing from HR and my punishment for telling someone to quit complaining…. anyways back to the story…I lost it and started shouting for him to leave me alone. That “triggered” him because now someone had pushed back. After all was said and done he apologized to me but I knew it was all pandering bullshit and lies. Because he had threatened me physically he would have been immediately canned had he not bowed and scrapped before me. And the fact that he was an ex con, something I was unaware of at the time, probably served as a “governor” on his throttle of malice. Didn’t want to revisit the big house i imagine.

  44. @obwandiyag
    How many of those are for possession?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @cosMICjester, @Oscar Peterson

    Barely any. Orcs usually have records a mile long before they do any time. I’m sure u already knew that.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    Surely you jest. Take that tongue out of your cheek, Steve.

  46. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    What about the percentage of black women with felony records?

    This one just got caught beating the white rice out of multiple Asians in a row, with currently little in the way of Asian outrage.

    I guess stoically accepting random beatings predominantly by black people is an Asian thing I’ll never understand…

    https://nypost.com/2021/07/23/maricia-bell-arrested-for-anti-asian-attacks-left-four-injured-in-queens-over-course-of-months/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    What about the percentage of black women with felony records?

    Assuming that the number of black women equals that of black men, one can derive the female percentage by subtracting the male percentage from the total (i.e. average) percentage multiplied by two. The female rate then comes out as 13.83% in 2010.

  47. Anonymous[814] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    @obwandiyag


    How many of those are for possession?
     
    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that. Guys who are in jail for drug charges are there for more serious crimes; prosecutors can't prove those, but they can prove the drug charges, so away they go.

    The canard that thousands are in jail for having a baggie in their car is right up there with "gun show loophole". Endlessly repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Truth, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous

    It is absolutely true that you’re not going to find someone doing a lot of time for a drug possession charge, if that’s their only conviction. Certainly they don’t go to state prisons. Offenders in state prison systems did a lot to get there and the “he was just driving around with a joint and got ten years” is an absolute myth.

    However, there are plenty of felony drug possession statutes, some for small amounts of drugs, and if you are convicted of one you are then a felon. You might never spend a day in jail but you were convicted of a felony.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  48. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    From NPR's "Fesh Air" interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:


    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn't get talked about enough because there's I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations - petty stuff that doesn't do a lot of harm, and yet there's a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there's a tremendous amount of violence. There's a tremendous amount of impunity, and it's, as I say, semi-furtive. It's well known to everybody in this small enclave who's doing stuff, who's boasting about it, who's dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They're part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so's a shooter and so-and-so's a rider, and they're frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He's in a gang. He's selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that's shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It's almost - when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It's - the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it's easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole - that is low-hanging fruit. It's easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.
     

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind, @Henry Canaday

    This is/was definitely a thing, at least to some extent. “You owe me time,” was a phrase some cops sometimes used when they pinned a crime on some criminal who they knew had gotten away with a crime in the past. That’s obviously unacceptable for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that the scumbag who actually committed the new crime gets away with it.

    Some cops are bad. Some cops are crooked. Many cops have planted evidence and suppressed evidence. All of that is terrible and should be stopped. But there is no evidence that these police tactics are racist in nature. And it doesn’t really have anything to do with the “racial reckoning” that has been used to justify mass riots, etc. etc. etc. The essential facts remain: Cops aren’t hunting down unarmed black men and murdering them for sport, and people who violently resist arrest are forfeiting their right to live.

  49. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    From NPR's "Fesh Air" interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:


    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn't get talked about enough because there's I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations - petty stuff that doesn't do a lot of harm, and yet there's a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there's a tremendous amount of violence. There's a tremendous amount of impunity, and it's, as I say, semi-furtive. It's well known to everybody in this small enclave who's doing stuff, who's boasting about it, who's dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They're part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so's a shooter and so-and-so's a rider, and they're frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He's in a gang. He's selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that's shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It's almost - when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It's - the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it's easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole - that is low-hanging fruit. It's easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.
     

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind, @Henry Canaday

    Um, “getting Al Capone on tax evasion” is a thing?

  50. @europeasant
    @Steve Sailer

    Chicago is on track for 800 homicides and over 4,000 shot for the year 2021. One guess who is doing all the killing? No itz not the Amish.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

    I’m sorry that you feel the need to peddle racist disinformation. Check your privilege and educate yourself.

    “A top advisor to Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told reporters last month that it’s a “misconception” to say gun violence is skyrocketing in Chicago.”

    • Replies: @europeasant
    @JimDandy

    check out these mug shots;

    https://home.chicagopolice.org/tag/wanted/

    You actually believe Kim Foxx. Are you retarded or do you work for her?

    https://heyjackass.com/

    434 homicides up to today. It ain't the Amish doing the shooting.

    Also check out who's sitting in Cook County. It ain't the Amish.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @europeasant
    @JimDandy

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize your comment was sarcasm.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  51. @europeasant
    @Steve Sailer

    Chicago is on track for 800 homicides and over 4,000 shot for the year 2021. One guess who is doing all the killing? No itz not the Amish.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

  52. @Anonymous
    There are record numbers of black men demanding illegal entrance into the country at the Mexican border. And yet we are told that this country is built around "white supremacy" or at the very least "whiteness." Which is true. The whole point of this country was to be a place for Northwestern Europeans.

    Illegal immigrants or illegal aliens do not cut it as terms for this phenomenon; because the left is right about one thing. There is essentially no difference between illegal 3rd world immigrants and legal 3rd world immigrants. At the end of the day, it is just non-white people seeking whiteness. PSW's. Person Seeking Whiteness.

    Replies: @Truth

    There are record numbers of black men demanding illegal entrance into the country at the Mexican border.

    Oh really?

    How long has someone been keeping this “record?”

  53. @John Derbyshire
    @Harry Baldwin

    "How many of the people doing time in prison are innocent?"

    "Innocent of the thing they were convicted for? Around five percent. Innocent of anything criminal at all? Fewer than one percent. Way fewer."

    https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/cops.html#innocent

    Replies: @Truth

    Thus Spoke Derbythustra…

  54. @Truth
    The Fergu-Trayv-Ahmad-George-Fl-... Thing, Steve, it's nasty...

    https://www.abqreport.com/single-post/three-more-homicides

    Albuquerque Population by Race (2018 Census Data):
    White: 73.5%
    American Indian and Alaskan Native: 4.6%
    Black or African American: 3.2%
    Asian: 2.8%
    Hispanic or Latino: 49.0%
    Two or more races: 4.5%
    White alone, not Hispanic or Latino: 39.4%

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-states-in-the-u-s.html

    Replies: @europeasant

    Here is Albuquerque’s most wanted. Out of nine only one is Caucasian.
    And no Beltran, Francisco is not Caucasian.

    http://www.crimestoppersnm.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=wanteds&ID=531

    Here is the FBI most wanted. Take a look and there are no surprises.

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/wanted

    I spent a week in the area recently and all the three murder suspects were Hispanic.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @europeasant

    Hey, here's the Spanish Royal family, King Carlos and Queen Sofia.

    It's amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!

    https://royalfamily.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Spanish-royal-family.jpg

    ...Besides, Unz, Reed and Sailer said you people were MUCH more violent then the Beaners.

    Replies: @europeasant, @TWS, @Wade Hampton

    , @OP
    @europeasant

    As one myself, I can attest that there is not a single white Hispanic in that list. Francisco is visibly mestizo and would not be considered white anywhere in Lat. Am.

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    @Steve Sailer

    From NPR's "Fesh Air" interview with Jill Leovy, author of Ghettoside:


    DAVIES: You write that sometimes detectives who are frustrated at their inability to arrest people who they think have committed murders will arrest them for what you call proxy crimes. Explain that.

    LEOVY: Yes. This is a nuance that doesn't get talked about enough because there's I think a general impression that the police are just arbitrarily hammering, for example, drug crimes, possession crimes, probation and parole violations - petty stuff that doesn't do a lot of harm, and yet there's a lot of penalties built behind them and so they must be racist. They must be just trying to give people a hard time. What you see on the ground is that there's a tremendous amount of violence. There's a tremendous amount of impunity, and it's, as I say, semi-furtive. It's well known to everybody in this small enclave who's doing stuff, who's boasting about it, who's dangerous. The police are part of that enclave. They're part of that community. They hear the street rumors, too. They hear so-and-so's a shooter and so-and-so's a rider, and they're frustrated because they cannot put a case on so-and-so for that assault or that homicide. So they think, well, we can get them on a drug offense. He's in a gang. He's selling drugs. If we can just get him on possession with intent to sell, at least that gets him off the street. And so you see certain amount of enforcement that's shaped by a reaction to the impunity for the serious crimes.

    It's almost - when you make the prosecution of some crimes very difficult and very expensive, as we have with homicide, it almost pushes the bubble. It's - the cops naturally gravitate towards places where they have more discretion and where it's easier to do the work and stopping and searching and possession and probation, parole - that is low-hanging fruit. It's easy, cheap stuff to prosecute.
     

    Replies: @John Derbyshire, @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind, @Henry Canaday

    I think that is one, or maybe the major, purpose of the gun laws. Spot a known thug with a bulge in his waist-line, accost him, frisk him, get him with an illegal gun, and you can get him off the street for a while. Every DC trial I have been on the jury for has been an illegal gun-carrying trial. One was for a guy who had aleady done seven years for murder and was due for a major gang trial in seven months, but the cops wanted to get him back in prison faster than that. The other was for a ‘good kid’ who was beginning to hang with the wrong people, and the cops wanted to give a stiff warning of where he was headed.

  56. @JimDandy
    ASIAN man who is also a COP punches what I am assuming is a BLACK! man for calling him an ANTI-ASIAN HATE SLUR.

    What will the MSM narrative ultimately be on this? And how, exactly, will whites be blamed?


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-sergeant-accused-assaulting-man-165100482.html

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    ASIAN man who is also a COP punches what I am assuming is a BLACK! man for calling him an ANTI-ASIAN HATE SLUR.

    As “the man continued to taunt Wong, and then shouted, ‘I can’t breathe,’ Wong responded, ‘I don’t give a f— if you can breathe or not,’ and punched the man in the side of the face,” according to Vance.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-sergeant-accused-assaulting-man-165100482.html

    Even (assumed) Blacks know “I can’t breath” is a canard for the society’s dumb asses.

  57. @europeasant
    @Truth

    Here is Albuquerque's most wanted. Out of nine only one is Caucasian.
    And no Beltran, Francisco is not Caucasian.

    http://www.crimestoppersnm.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=wanteds&ID=531

    Here is the FBI most wanted. Take a look and there are no surprises.

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/wanted

    I spent a week in the area recently and all the three murder suspects were Hispanic.

    Replies: @Truth, @OP

    Hey, here’s the Spanish Royal family, King Carlos and Queen Sofia.

    It’s amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!

    …Besides, Unz, Reed and Sailer said you people were MUCH more violent then the Beaners.

    • LOL: Wade Hampton
    • Replies: @europeasant
    @Truth

    "It’s amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!"

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos? I guess you don't understand genetics.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @TWS
    @Truth

    You're confusing genetics with environment but you are frequently confused.

    , @Wade Hampton
    @Truth

    Outdoor labor, bad diet, tattoos and interbreeding with Indios. But mostly interbreeding with Indios.

  58. He picked the Wong guy that time.

  59. @europeasant
    @Truth

    Here is Albuquerque's most wanted. Out of nine only one is Caucasian.
    And no Beltran, Francisco is not Caucasian.

    http://www.crimestoppersnm.com/sitemenu.aspx?P=wanteds&ID=531

    Here is the FBI most wanted. Take a look and there are no surprises.

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/wanted

    I spent a week in the area recently and all the three murder suspects were Hispanic.

    Replies: @Truth, @OP

    As one myself, I can attest that there is not a single white Hispanic in that list. Francisco is visibly mestizo and would not be considered white anywhere in Lat. Am.

    • Agree: europeasant
  60. @JimDandy
    @europeasant

    I'm sorry that you feel the need to peddle racist disinformation. Check your privilege and educate yourself.

    "A top advisor to Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told reporters last month that it’s a “misconception” to say gun violence is skyrocketing in Chicago."

    Replies: @europeasant, @europeasant

    check out these mug shots;

    https://home.chicagopolice.org/tag/wanted/

    You actually believe Kim Foxx. Are you retarded or do you work for her?

    https://heyjackass.com/

    434 homicides up to today. It ain’t the Amish doing the shooting.

    Also check out who’s sitting in Cook County. It ain’t the Amish.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @europeasant

    I believe everything Kim Foxx says, uncritically, which is why I am not a racist and you are. Do better! Or I swear I'll sic Tiny Duck on you. I swear to God I will.

  61. @Truth
    @europeasant

    Hey, here's the Spanish Royal family, King Carlos and Queen Sofia.

    It's amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!

    https://royalfamily.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Spanish-royal-family.jpg

    ...Besides, Unz, Reed and Sailer said you people were MUCH more violent then the Beaners.

    Replies: @europeasant, @TWS, @Wade Hampton

    “It’s amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!”

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos? I guess you don’t understand genetics.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @europeasant

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos?

    Yup.

    https://www.nps.gov/petr/learn/historyculture/atrisco.htm

    Replies: @anon, @Ralph L

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Mexican-American women are extremely nonviolent.

    Replies: @Neuday, @Paperback Writer, @JohnnyWalker123, @TruthHurts2k21, @InnerCynic, @AceDeuce

    Just don’t touch their mustaches…

  63. @Anon
    So much criminality ... yet conservative cucks like David Brooks ignore it and write articles like "How racist is America?" Any honest country would shine a bright spotlight on POC criminality and its enablers, and do something about it.

    Replies: @Neuday, @AceDeuce

    Even smart Whites, when they do speak out a little, are on the defensive “Whites aren’t that bad-please like us, negroes” Although this is much improved over even 15-20 years ago, when Whites didn’t dare utter a peep. We must not confine our speech to only defending ourselves, but, as you said, need to talk about how toxic blacks are, and how destructive.

  64. @obwandiyag
    How many of those are for possession?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @cosMICjester, @Oscar Peterson

    “How many of those are for possession?”

    You mean possession of other people’s property?

  65. Ok. I have been wanting to say this for a good long while. You have given me the segue. Whether whimmed or not, is solely the responsibility of iSteve:

    There is a a fundamental dichotomy of masculinity between whites (mea culpa!) and “minorities” (aka negroes – notably East Asian men are ignored in the calculation). I see it today in the “Inject me please with your experimental serum!” insanity. Negro males males are like, “Fuck you cracker!” While (entirely too many) whites are like, “Please, stick it in my ass first!!!”

    It’s disgusting to me, but nobody cares (perhaps rightfully so) what Stan d Mute thinks. Hey, media reports are SCARY. But it’s interesting that the negroes are more inoculated against propagandistic bullshit than are whites, no? If, as I have conjectured, we witness the “culling of the gullible,” what does it mean that negroes are less gullible than we are?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Stan d Mute


    I see it today in the “Inject me please with your experimental serum!” insanity. Negro males males are like, “Fuck you cracker!” While (entirely too many) whites are like, “Please, stick it in my ass first!!!”
     
    Well Bro, for a decade now you have complained about Detroit, how's that San Francisco move working for you?
    , @Gamecock
    @Stan d Mute


    what does it mean that negroes are less gullible than we are?
     
    No. It means most whites are married.
  66. @europeasant
    @JimDandy

    check out these mug shots;

    https://home.chicagopolice.org/tag/wanted/

    You actually believe Kim Foxx. Are you retarded or do you work for her?

    https://heyjackass.com/

    434 homicides up to today. It ain't the Amish doing the shooting.

    Also check out who's sitting in Cook County. It ain't the Amish.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I believe everything Kim Foxx says, uncritically, which is why I am not a racist and you are. Do better! Or I swear I’ll sic Tiny Duck on you. I swear to God I will.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
    • LOL: europeasant
  67. @Stan d Mute
    Ok. I have been wanting to say this for a good long while. You have given me the segue. Whether whimmed or not, is solely the responsibility of iSteve:

    There is a a fundamental dichotomy of masculinity between whites (mea culpa!) and “minorities” (aka negroes - notably East Asian men are ignored in the calculation). I see it today in the “Inject me please with your experimental serum!” insanity. Negro males males are like, “Fuck you cracker!” While (entirely too many) whites are like, “Please, stick it in my ass first!!!”

    It’s disgusting to me, but nobody cares (perhaps rightfully so) what Stan d Mute thinks. Hey, media reports are SCARY. But it’s interesting that the negroes are more inoculated against propagandistic bullshit than are whites, no? If, as I have conjectured, we witness the “culling of the gullible,” what does it mean that negroes are less gullible than we are?

    Replies: @Truth, @Gamecock

    I see it today in the “Inject me please with your experimental serum!” insanity. Negro males males are like, “Fuck you cracker!” While (entirely too many) whites are like, “Please, stick it in my ass first!!!”

    Well Bro, for a decade now you have complained about Detroit, how’s that San Francisco move working for you?

  68. @europeasant
    @Truth

    "It’s amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!"

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos? I guess you don't understand genetics.

    Replies: @Truth

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos?

    Yup.

    https://www.nps.gov/petr/learn/historyculture/atrisco.htm

    • Replies: @anon
    @Truth

    Only in the same sense they are related to Charlemagne.

    lol

    , @Ralph L
    @Truth

    Juan Carlos's grandmothers were ethnic French and German (one each). The Hapsburgs were more German than Spanish because they kept marrying their Austrian cousins. The French Bourbons took over Spain long after Spaniards came over here and boinked the natives. Sophia was nominally Greek but ethnically Danish and German.

  69. @Stan d Mute
    Ok. I have been wanting to say this for a good long while. You have given me the segue. Whether whimmed or not, is solely the responsibility of iSteve:

    There is a a fundamental dichotomy of masculinity between whites (mea culpa!) and “minorities” (aka negroes - notably East Asian men are ignored in the calculation). I see it today in the “Inject me please with your experimental serum!” insanity. Negro males males are like, “Fuck you cracker!” While (entirely too many) whites are like, “Please, stick it in my ass first!!!”

    It’s disgusting to me, but nobody cares (perhaps rightfully so) what Stan d Mute thinks. Hey, media reports are SCARY. But it’s interesting that the negroes are more inoculated against propagandistic bullshit than are whites, no? If, as I have conjectured, we witness the “culling of the gullible,” what does it mean that negroes are less gullible than we are?

    Replies: @Truth, @Gamecock

    what does it mean that negroes are less gullible than we are?

    No. It means most whites are married.

    • Thanks: Stan d Mute
  70. @Truth
    @europeasant

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos?

    Yup.

    https://www.nps.gov/petr/learn/historyculture/atrisco.htm

    Replies: @anon, @Ralph L

    Only in the same sense they are related to Charlemagne.

    lol

  71. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Here’s an interesting trend from that chart: while the percentage of black male felons is down by roughly 3 percentage points from 2000 to 2020, the percentage of total black adult felons is up by 2 percentage points during the same time period. Translation - black females are becoming a lot more felonious.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    There’s must become more aggressive to fight for a male.

  72. @JimDandy
    @europeasant

    I'm sorry that you feel the need to peddle racist disinformation. Check your privilege and educate yourself.

    "A top advisor to Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx told reporters last month that it’s a “misconception” to say gun violence is skyrocketing in Chicago."

    Replies: @europeasant, @europeasant

    I’m sorry, I didn’t realize your comment was sarcasm.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @europeasant

    No need to apologize. It's impossible to distinguish between sarcasm and those idiots' actual rhetoric.

  73. @europeasant
    @JimDandy

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize your comment was sarcasm.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    No need to apologize. It’s impossible to distinguish between sarcasm and those idiots’ actual rhetoric.

  74. @Truth
    @europeasant

    Are you saying that the criminals in New Mexico are related to King Carlos?

    Yup.

    https://www.nps.gov/petr/learn/historyculture/atrisco.htm

    Replies: @anon, @Ralph L

    Juan Carlos’s grandmothers were ethnic French and German (one each). The Hapsburgs were more German than Spanish because they kept marrying their Austrian cousins. The French Bourbons took over Spain long after Spaniards came over here and boinked the natives. Sophia was nominally Greek but ethnically Danish and German.

  75. @Truth
    @Jim Don Bob


    If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that.

     

    Uh, no, Billy Joe Jim Bob.
    https://www.drugtreatment.com/expose/marijuana-felony-amounts-by-state/

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/22/four-in-ten-u-s-drug-arrests-in-2018-were-for-marijuana-offenses-mostly-possession/

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘If you are talking about possession of marijuana, the answer is zero. Nobody gets a felony for that.

    ‘Uh, no, Billy Joe Jim Bob.
    https://www.drugtreatment.com/expose/marijuana-felony-amounts-by-state/

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/22/four-in-ten-u-s-drug-arrests-in-2018-were-for-marijuana-offenses-mostly-possession/

    Neither one of those links demonstrates that many actually receive a felony conviction for marijuana possession.

    • Thanks: Wade Hampton
  76. @Truth
    @europeasant

    Hey, here's the Spanish Royal family, King Carlos and Queen Sofia.

    It's amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!

    https://royalfamily.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Spanish-royal-family.jpg

    ...Besides, Unz, Reed and Sailer said you people were MUCH more violent then the Beaners.

    Replies: @europeasant, @TWS, @Wade Hampton

    You’re confusing genetics with environment but you are frequently confused.

  77. @Truth
    @europeasant

    Hey, here's the Spanish Royal family, King Carlos and Queen Sofia.

    It's amazing what a bad diet, some tattoos and a few years of outdoor manual labor will do!

    https://royalfamily.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Spanish-royal-family.jpg

    ...Besides, Unz, Reed and Sailer said you people were MUCH more violent then the Beaners.

    Replies: @europeasant, @TWS, @Wade Hampton

    Outdoor labor, bad diet, tattoos and interbreeding with Indios. But mostly interbreeding with Indios.

  78. CORRECTION:
    It is not “33% of ALL BLACK MEN have a felony”
    It is actually “33% of ALL FELONIES are committed by black men”

    If you look at the chart they posted to prove the article’s point, it says those with a felony, excluding those without a felony. It is only dealing with total felonies committed and the racial divide among felonious folks.

    DISTINCTIONS MATTER, so assume a felonious assault or worse either way from a black dude, because either way you look at it, BLACKS COMMIT MORE FELONIES THAN ANYONE

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