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I can’t prove this article is actually from the London tabloid Mail on Sunday in the pre-Internet year of 1992. I just found it on Reddit. But it seems plausible, although pretty early:

The mystery of Ghislaine Maxwell’s secret love,

Mail on Sunday, 15/11/1992

REVEALED: THE UNLIKELY ROMANCE BETWEEN A BUSINESS SPY AND THE CROOKED FINANCIER’S FAVOURITE DAUGHTER

IN PUBLIC relations terms, it was an unmitigated disaster.

Ghislaine Maxwell, the youngest and most pulchritudinous of the disgraced tycoon’s children, was photographed boarding Concorde to return to her adopted city, New York.

The bankers cheated by her father and pensioners left destitute as a result of Robert Maxwell’s wickedness were incandescent with anger. A one-way trip on Concorde costs more than £2,000 – an awful lot of money for a young woman reported to be living on a “meagre”£80,000 trust fund set up by her father.

But her departure for New York is notable for a very different reason.

Unnoticed by almost everybody, travelling with her was a greying, plumpish, middle-aged American businessman who managed to avoid the photographers. It is to this man that 30-year-old Ghislaine has turned to ease the heartache of her father’s shame.

His name is Jeffrey Epstein, a shadowy, almost maverick New York “property developer”who, for over a year, has helped Ghislaine become a coveted fixture on the Manhattan social scene. During the last year, say friends, she has fallen in love with him, and the couple are inseparable.

DESPITE the dubious fame of having been nominated as Cosmopolitan magazine’s Bachelor of the Month,

That was in June 1980:

Back then, Epstein looked like Lou Reed starring in American Psycho.

Epstein walked into her life at a time when she was desperately lonely. …

But by Epstein’s side, Ghislaine is building a respectability in New York which would be impossible in London, where the wounds created by her father cut deepest.

In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves. …

And yet, like much associated with the Maxwell clan, little is known about Mr Epstein.

One outrageous story links him to the CIA and Mossad. Another that Epstein was a concert pianist. Yet another that he was a maths teacher at an exclusive girls school.

THE most intriguing rumour is that he was a corporate spy hired by big businesses to uncover money that had been embezzled.

But what is the truth about him? Like Maxwell, Epstein is both flamboyant and intensely private.

… One of his first notable dates was Nikki Haskell, a former TV talk-show hostess who met him six years ago.

… She experienced Epstein’s love of intrigue. “He told me he was a spy hired by corporations to find major amounts of money which had been embezzled,”she says. “He made it sound very exciting and glamorous.”Epstein escorted Haskell to the annual BEST Awards in New York, a meretricious event celebrating the best dressed people in America. Haskell said: “In the middle, Jeffrey got up and said “I have to go’. When I asked why, he said: “Just look at me as a doctor who has to make a house call.”Who was he meeting at midnight on a Saturday?”

Dorothy Sowell, another New York socialite, came across Epstein at roughly the same time. “Jeffrey is the type of person whose stories sound far-fetched, but you never know when you will run into him,”she said at her Park Avenue apartment. “There is something about him that must ring true.”

… According to friends, Epstein was born and raised in New York. His parents were relatively poor, and now live in a house he bought for them in Palm Beach, Florida. He appears to have an inexhaustible supply of money and yet no one seems able to answer the question of precisely what the source is.

HIS Madison Avenue office is decorated with fabulous works of art, and he has been known to drive a Silver Spirit Rolls-Royce.

He once lived in a building which also housed socialite and fashion guru, Mary McFadden, and several children of the Walkmeister family, part of New York’s tightly-knit circle of Jewish philanthropists.

According to a close friend, Epstein is now the right-hand man of Leslie Wexner, the founder of the Limited Corporation, a giant retailing chain. …

When she first arrived in February 1991, in the wake of her father’s triumphant entrance into Manhattan as the saviour of the New York Daily News, she had one important role – as Captain Bob’s ticket into New York society. She accompanied him to all the right parties and helped to woo the Kennedy clan. When Kerry Kennedy, Robert Kennedy’s daughter, was married Ghislaine was a guest.

Kerry Kennedy, the ex-wife of New York governor Andrew Cuomo, might have some light to shed on what Ghislaine is worried about at present.

Recently, she was seen warmly greeting John Kennedy Jnr, JFK’s only son, at a New York party. As they kissed on meeting their friendship was obvious.

Whatever happened to JFK Jr. anyway?

… “Jeffrey is much more like her father,”said one friend. But what is he – property developer, concert pianist, maths teacher, corporate treasure hunter, stockbroker, merchant banker or globe-trotting businessman?

A friend laughed. “I think you’ll find there is probably a bit of truth in all of them.”

Epstein grew up in Coney Island, the son of a groundskeeper for the New York Parks Department. He was good at classical piano and at math, which appears to have gotten him comfortable with a higher class of people, such as getting him hired to teach at the fancy Dalton School despite being a young college dropout.

He only lasted two years there, but he got to know Ace Greenberg, head of Bear Stearns, whose kids were going to Dalton. When Epstein got canned from Dalton, he got hired at Bear Stearns. He made limited partner in 4 years, but got fired the next year for some murky infractions, but Epstein stayed friends with Greenberg and Jimmy Cayne. Presumably, they liked his moxie.

Then he went into business for himself helping rich people get their money back from crooks and perhaps vice-versa. “He told friends that he worked sometimes as a consultant for governments and the very wealthy to recover embezzled funds, while at other times he worked for clients who had embezzled funds.”

In 1987, he joined a collections agency, Tower Financial, which then tried to buy Pan Am airlines. In 1993 Tower Financial blew up in a big Ponzi scheme and his partner went to jail, but Epstein was nominally separated from the firm by 1989.

It’s possible that some of Epstein’s teflonness came from serving as a snitch on his fellow crooks?

Okay, here’s my sociological suspicion. Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

Why did women’s clothing billionaire Leslie Wexner, a genius at understanding how women want to dress, give Epstein a Manhattan mansion?

Maybe it was blackmail, maybe payment for some nefarious service, or maybe it was love. From New York magazine, August 5, 1985:

Wexner is now married with four kids, but the article makes a point of his fussiness:

When did Epstein and Wexner meet? Wexner’s recent letter says only “the mid-1980s.”

I first met Mr. Epstein in the mid-1980s, through friends who vouched for and recommended him as a knowledgeable financial professional. Mr. Epstein represented that he had various well-known and respected individuals both as his financial clients and in his inner circle. Based on positive reports from several friends, and on my initial dealings with him, I believed I could trust him.

Eventually, he took over managing my personal finances. He was given power of attorney as is common in that context, and he had wide latitude to act on my behalf with respect to my personal finances while I focused on building my company and undertaking philanthropic efforts.

So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

Something else that happened in the mid-1980s in Columbus, Ohio was that The Limited’s outside counsel, local lawyer Arthur Shapiro, was supposed to testify to the grand jury on March 7, 1985 about why he hadn’t filed a tax return in seven years. On March 6, 1985, an unknown gunman chased Shapiro through a Columbus cemetery and shot him dead. The case remains unsolved today.

There’s a pretty good suspect in Barry Kessler, an accountant involved in setting up shady tax shelters with Shapiro. Kessler was accused in several other murders and eventually died in prison.

On the other hand, local journalist Bob Fitrakis has long been implying that the conspiracy to murder Shapiro before he testified goes all the way to the top, or at least as top as you can get in Columbus, Ohio.

 
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  1. Something else that happened in the mid-1980s in Columbus, Ohio was that The Limited’s outside counsel, local lawyer Arthur Shapiro, was supposed to testify to the grand jury on March 7, 1985 about why he hadn’t filed a tax return in seven years. On March 6, 1985, an unknown gunman chased Shapiro through a Columbus cemetery and shot him dead. The case remains unsolved today.
    There’s a pretty good suspect in Barry Kessler, an accountant involved in setting up shady tax shelters with Shapiro. Kessler was accused in several other murders and eventually died in prison.

    Is there anyone involved in the Epstein affair who isn’t Jewish (excluding members of the royal family, Bill Clinton and the girls being molested)?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Jimmy Cayne, that's obviously an Irish name, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cayne#Early_life_and_career

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    Eddie De Bartolo, NFL Hall of Fame owner of the SF 49'ers figures prominently in the story. De Bartolo and Les Wexner were business partners/associates with (mobbed up) New Jersey trucking company magnate, Frank Walsh.

    When Shapiro was indicted by the grand jury in 1985, the speculation is that he knew the details of the planned "New Albany" development, a series of real estate transactions that would have involved lots of "offers they can't refuse" type deals.
    What else Shapiro may have been in on was unknown.

    Steve's implied point was that the silencing of Shapiro was of considerable interest to powerful people with a great deal to lose.

    That Steve made this point in an article about Epstein implies that Steve has dark suspicions about exactly how Epstein and Wexner became so close beginning around the time of the (unsolved) Shapiro murder.

    "Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

    Why did women’s clothing billionaire Leslie Wexner, a genius at understanding how women want to dress, give Epstein a Manhattan mansion?

    Maybe it was blackmail, maybe payment for some nefarious service . . ."


    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?
  2. But by Epstein’s side, Ghislaine is building a respectability in New York which would be impossible in London, where the wounds created by her father cut deepest.

    In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves. …

    Couldn’t write that sentence today. You’d be accused of anti-semetic dog-whistling.

  3. @Kent Nationalist

    Something else that happened in the mid-1980s in Columbus, Ohio was that The Limited’s outside counsel, local lawyer Arthur Shapiro, was supposed to testify to the grand jury on March 7, 1985 about why he hadn’t filed a tax return in seven years. On March 6, 1985, an unknown gunman chased Shapiro through a Columbus cemetery and shot him dead. The case remains unsolved today.
    There’s a pretty good suspect in Barry Kessler, an accountant involved in setting up shady tax shelters with Shapiro. Kessler was accused in several other murders and eventually died in prison.
     
    Is there anyone involved in the Epstein affair who isn't Jewish (excluding members of the royal family, Bill Clinton and the girls being molested)?

    Jimmy Cayne, that’s obviously an Irish name, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cayne#Early_life_and_career

    • Replies: @Altai
    That we could all aspire to have "Cayne was named in Time Magazine's list of '25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis'.[11]" in our Wikipedia biography.
    , @Kal
    No. Jimmy Cayne is Jewish:

    Cayne is Jewish and grew up in Evanston, Illinois. His father was a patent attorney. Cayne attended Purdue University, but he left before graduating to join the United States Army.
    , @Thirdtwin
    Anglicized "Kahane", probably.
  4. Oh heck, I’ve got nothing ….

  5. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    After a nice start Mickey Kaus’s newsletter has dived into Epstein conspiracy hell. WE FINALLY PUT
    RUSSIAGATE BEHIND US MICKEY, GIVE US A BREAK!

    Mickey links to a particularly bizarre anonymous Medium piece as evidence for his fever dreams. The article reads like the infamous IT’S TIME FOR SOME GAME THEORY tweet stream from Russiagate days.

  6. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I’m not sure there is anything great here, but:

    — Jesse Singal’s newsletter this weeks is about “ left-of-center writers and thinkers defying the scientific consensus on [IQ and genetics],” even though “all the available evidence points to the idea that intelligence is highly heritable,” but “it does not follow directly from this that racial IQ differences have a biological component.” Jesse is a very brave writer on trans issues, and trannies want New York Magazine and others to stop printing his stuff. He’s stepping into IQ now?! Jesse, turn back before it’s too late!

    — Jesse was set off by this in the latest Wired:

    Three Years of Misery Inside Google, the Happiest Company in Tech
    https://www.wired.com/story/inside-google-three-years-misery-happiest-company-tech/

    It covers Damore and other internal Google SJW stuff. The writer is a female, homely, dot-Indian, SJW former Gawker writer now at Wired. She’s a decent writer, all in all, and does reporting (47 Googler interviews), not just hot takes. But in the article she comes down on “alleged links between genetics and IQ.”

    She seems like a prime Sailer’s Law candidate, but I cannot find any examples. Many Indian guys prefer white women, as do white guys, who if they do swing Asian, it’s chopsticks-Asian, not dot-Asian.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    I'm mildly heartened that most of the SJWs mentioned in the article actually seemed to have burned out and left Google in a depressed and angry state. Though perhaps that's the way those people function.
  7. Steve, Ohio has produced Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, and Lemay.
    F***ING WITH BUCKEYES IS A BAD IDEA.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    And also G. A. Custer - I believe he ran into some trouble with Indians (feather not dot).
  8. @Steve Sailer
    Jimmy Cayne, that's obviously an Irish name, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cayne#Early_life_and_career

    That we could all aspire to have “Cayne was named in Time Magazine’s list of ’25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis’.[11]” in our Wikipedia biography.

  9. Epstein stayed friends with Greenberg and Jimmy Cayne. Presumably, they liked his moxie.

    Exactly what service is “moxie” playing in that sentence I wonder. Anything to do with country matters?

    • Replies: @Space Ghost
    Well he certainly couldn't have used "chutzpah"!
    , @Ibound1
    Years before the collapse of the savings and loan industry, senior year in college, I interviewed with a savings and loan guy in Texas (and did not get hired). The interviewer was the President and thought he had the biggest dick in the world and told me to my face that, unlike another recent hire of his, he thought I lacked “moxie”. The other guy had “moxie” and he hired him.

    A few years later, the institution completely failed - the President lost all his money and although nobody went to jail, they certainly should have, and the whole thing was sold off. Just playing with other people’s money wearing boots and a cowboy hat.

    Since then I have always associated the word “moxie” with the words “complete bullshit” and “lying thieves” - really. If someone tells me “the guy doesn’t know much but he’s sure got a lot of moxie”, I assume whatever he’s doing will end up in a total disaster.
  10. So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    Power of attorney is not usually given to an attorney. A more typical situation is that a close family member has power of attorney when another family member is in some way incapacitated or absent and unable to pay bills or sign medical consents.

    The lingerie tycoon apparently gave POA to Epstein so that Epstein could manage his investments without Wexner having to bother himself with finance stuff when he could devote his energies to selling ladies panties and sleepwear, whereas Epstein seems to have been more interesting in getting ladies out of panties and having them sleep naked.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    I would guess Epstein knew you don't cross Wexner so power of attorney isn't the same problem that it would be for those of us not immersed in the mishpucka.

    Of course Bud Fox got power of attorney from Gekko to distance Gekko from the illegal goings on that Bud was tasked with. Maybe Epstein was simply Bud Fox to Wexner's Gekko?
  11. All these people are tiresome bedbugs with no interesting inner life except fakery and hedonism. Bomb from the Stratosphere with thermonukes!

    If this was all of humanity, we would still be sitting in caves, discussing who forcefully puts a hairy dick into whom, with “women” all around the dickmeister, fawning about his adorableness and mystery, and “reporting clowns” singing about it on stoneage TV.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    If this was all of humanity, we would still be sitting in caves, discussing who forcefully puts a hairy dick into whom, with “women” all around the dickmeister, fawning about his adorableness and mystery

    That's basically what happens in every nightclub today, minus the hairy part.
  12. @Steve Sailer
    Jimmy Cayne, that's obviously an Irish name, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cayne#Early_life_and_career

    No. Jimmy Cayne is Jewish:

    Cayne is Jewish and grew up in Evanston, Illinois. His father was a patent attorney. Cayne attended Purdue University, but he left before graduating to join the United States Army.

  13. @Steve Sailer
    Jimmy Cayne, that's obviously an Irish name, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cayne#Early_life_and_career

    Anglicized “Kahane”, probably.

  14. With Epstein’s resemblance to Lou Reed, the song “Coney Island Baby” seems really, really fitting here.

    “Just remember people have peculiar tastes…”

  15. @El Dato
    All these people are tiresome bedbugs with no interesting inner life except fakery and hedonism. Bomb from the Stratosphere with thermonukes!

    If this was all of humanity, we would still be sitting in caves, discussing who forcefully puts a hairy dick into whom, with "women" all around the dickmeister, fawning about his adorableness and mystery, and "reporting clowns" singing about it on stoneage TV.

    If this was all of humanity, we would still be sitting in caves, discussing who forcefully puts a hairy dick into whom, with “women” all around the dickmeister, fawning about his adorableness and mystery

    That’s basically what happens in every nightclub today, minus the hairy part.

  16. Dorothy Sowell, another New York socialite, came across Epstein at roughly the same time. “Jeffrey is the type of person whose stories sound far-fetched, but you never know when you will run into him,”she said at her Park Avenue apartment. “There is something about him that must ring true.”

    … According to friends, Epstein was born and raised in New York. His parents were relatively poor, and now live in a house he bought for them in Palm Beach, Florida. He appears to have an inexhaustible supply of money and yet no one seems able to answer the question of precisely what the source is.

    Jeffrey Epstein’s life story sounds like The Great Gatsby if it had been written by Phillip Roth.

    The possible Shapiro/Kessler/Wexner connection is interesting. Epstein was also (seemingly) fairly closely linked with Jes Staley of JPMorgan:

    https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/jeffrey-epstein-jes-staley-jpmorgan-apollo-highbridge-2019-7-1028375356

    Apropos of dirty financial dealings, I had recently heard that big banks often take out life insurance policies on certain of their employees. A few years back there was a wave of Bear-Stearns and JP Morgan employees falling out of buildings or drowning in swimming pools (I don’t know if any of them fell out of a building into a swimming pool in which they then drowned). I don’t know if it was statistically significant, but it was none-the-less interesting. More recently, there were a number of people involved with Deutsche Bank who committed suicide:

    https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/why-are-so-many-bankers-committing-suicide/

  17. @Anon
    OT

    I’m not sure there is anything great here, but:

    -- Jesse Singal’s newsletter this weeks is about “ left-of-center writers and thinkers defying the scientific consensus on [IQ and genetics],” even though "all the available evidence points to the idea that intelligence is highly heritable,” but “it does not follow directly from this that racial IQ differences have a biological component.” Jesse is a very brave writer on trans issues, and trannies want New York Magazine and others to stop printing his stuff. He’s stepping into IQ now?! Jesse, turn back before it’s too late!

    -- Jesse was set off by this in the latest Wired:

    Three Years of Misery Inside Google, the Happiest Company in Tech
    https://www.wired.com/story/inside-google-three-years-misery-happiest-company-tech/

    It covers Damore and other internal Google SJW stuff. The writer is a female, homely, dot-Indian, SJW former Gawker writer now at Wired. She’s a decent writer, all in all, and does reporting (47 Googler interviews), not just hot takes. But in the article she comes down on "alleged links between genetics and IQ."

    https://twitter.com/nitashatiku/status/1161224511913517056

    She seems like a prime Sailer’s Law candidate, but I cannot find any examples. Many Indian guys prefer white women, as do white guys, who if they do swing Asian, it’s chopsticks-Asian, not dot-Asian.

    I’m mildly heartened that most of the SJWs mentioned in the article actually seemed to have burned out and left Google in a depressed and angry state. Though perhaps that’s the way those people function.

  18. Okay, here’s my sociological suspicion. Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

    Still seems much too low-end for someone with the spending power of Epstein.

  19. “Ace Greenberg, head of Bear Stearns”. One of my rules of living. Never have financial dealings with someone who goes by a name like Ace, Slick, Doc, Made-off, etc.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Take it from me: There are plenty of dipshits in the financial industry who would not receive the respect that they do without the help of tailors and suit designers. It is a good place for a former dropout with brains to find refuge.
    , @Paul Jolliffe
    Alfa 158 said "One of my rules of living. Never have financial dealings with someone who goes by a name like Ace, Slick, Doc, Made-off, etc."

    Or "Vladimir", "Victor" or "Boris" not to mention any variation of "Aleksandrovich":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fugitive_financiers

    Of course, homegrown Robert Vesco deserves his own separate post from Steve:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Vesco
  20. Being a regular reader of The Mail on Sunday for several decades I can fairly reliably claim that the article is not from that source. They would never use a word like ‘pulchritudinous’.

  21. @Alfa158
    “Ace Greenberg, head of Bear Stearns”. One of my rules of living. Never have financial dealings with someone who goes by a name like Ace, Slick, Doc, Made-off, etc.

    Take it from me: There are plenty of dipshits in the financial industry who would not receive the respect that they do without the help of tailors and suit designers. It is a good place for a former dropout with brains to find refuge.

  22. @Alfa158
    “Ace Greenberg, head of Bear Stearns”. One of my rules of living. Never have financial dealings with someone who goes by a name like Ace, Slick, Doc, Made-off, etc.

    Alfa 158 said “One of my rules of living. Never have financial dealings with someone who goes by a name like Ace, Slick, Doc, Made-off, etc.”

    Or “Vladimir”, “Victor” or “Boris” not to mention any variation of “Aleksandrovich”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fugitive_financiers

    Of course, homegrown Robert Vesco deserves his own separate post from Steve:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Vesco

  23. @Kent Nationalist

    Something else that happened in the mid-1980s in Columbus, Ohio was that The Limited’s outside counsel, local lawyer Arthur Shapiro, was supposed to testify to the grand jury on March 7, 1985 about why he hadn’t filed a tax return in seven years. On March 6, 1985, an unknown gunman chased Shapiro through a Columbus cemetery and shot him dead. The case remains unsolved today.
    There’s a pretty good suspect in Barry Kessler, an accountant involved in setting up shady tax shelters with Shapiro. Kessler was accused in several other murders and eventually died in prison.
     
    Is there anyone involved in the Epstein affair who isn't Jewish (excluding members of the royal family, Bill Clinton and the girls being molested)?

    Eddie De Bartolo, NFL Hall of Fame owner of the SF 49’ers figures prominently in the story. De Bartolo and Les Wexner were business partners/associates with (mobbed up) New Jersey trucking company magnate, Frank Walsh.

    When Shapiro was indicted by the grand jury in 1985, the speculation is that he knew the details of the planned “New Albany” development, a series of real estate transactions that would have involved lots of “offers they can’t refuse” type deals.
    What else Shapiro may have been in on was unknown.

    Steve’s implied point was that the silencing of Shapiro was of considerable interest to powerful people with a great deal to lose.

    That Steve made this point in an article about Epstein implies that Steve has dark suspicions about exactly how Epstein and Wexner became so close beginning around the time of the (unsolved) Shapiro murder.

    “Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

    Why did women’s clothing billionaire Leslie Wexner, a genius at understanding how women want to dress, give Epstein a Manhattan mansion?

    Maybe it was blackmail, maybe payment for some nefarious service . . .”

    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl

    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?
     
    Or, more plausibly, just that Brooklyn-born Epstein had somehow convinced Ohio-born Wexner that he was in a position to direct hitmen.
    , @LondonBob
    Really I suspect it came to Wexner's attention that Epstein liked very young women and had no moral compass so he was a good fit for 'managing' the young models at his fashion company.
  24. “Back then, Epstein looked like Lou Reed starring in American Psycho.”

    I thought Ben Stiller in There’s Something About Mary (or I guess about anything)

  25. @dearieme
    Epstein stayed friends with Greenberg and Jimmy Cayne. Presumably, they liked his moxie.



    Exactly what service is "moxie" playing in that sentence I wonder. Anything to do with country matters?

    Well he certainly couldn’t have used “chutzpah”!

  26. So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    “Attorney” means someone appointed to represent another person’s interests.

    When you sign a power of attorney, you appoint someone to be your “attorney IN FACT”, usually with respect to business matters. Lawyers are “Attorneys at Law” , who appear on your behalf in legal matters, such as before a court. These are two completely different things. You could appoint someone who is an “attorney at law” to be your “attorney in fact” also, but normally you appoint someone you trust such as a family member because your attorney in fact has the power to sign whatever documents you have empowered him to sign as if he were you – he could sell your house, etc.

  27. A one-way trip on Concorde costs more than £2,000…

    No, it didn’t. Kurt Vonnegut wrote a few years earlier about how he got on the Concorde. Book a regular BA flight scheduled an hour or two after the SST’s departure, then show up a few hours early. BA was so desperate to fill the often empty seats that they’d offer a free upgrade. (Not that regular BA flights were cheap.)

    He had no idea. He had shown up early for other reasons. It was one of those unspoken deals, like Northwest’s $99 Saturday round-trips to the Mall of America from anywhere. Or McDonald’s and other franchisors’ “hidden menu”.

    Of course, BA may have cut back on these after Vonnegut blabbed. But the seats would have been empty again by 1992.

    BTW, McD’s keeps mayonnaise packets for their French fries, which beats their ketchup. You have to ask. I don’t know about malt vinegar, though. Maybe in or near Canada.

  28. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    Detectives don’t get paid that well. Even if someone is finding out what happened to your embezzled money, you’re not going to pay him enough for that service to make him rich–that’s like being ripped off twice. All you have to do is hire an accountant who works for 40K a year and just pay a few extra expenses for his investigation. Rich people are cheap when it comes to paying others. They’re rich because they’re very good at hanging onto what they have.

    I think Epstein was a lobbyist for Israel who provided ‘extra favors’ e.g. underage sex, for persons who helped advance pro-Israel policies, like Bill Clinton, and Israel fed Epstein a lot of money to maintain this.

  29. Anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    That is pretty good detective work Steve. Epstein was once sued by a former client, who said he squandered $400k of his money; he also said he saw no genius in Epstein, and that he never saw him work: “Anyone that rich had to be working 26 hours a day, he played 26 hours a day.”

    Now that the judge has dismissed his case brought by 16 women, I guess we’ll never learn the truth. Not holding my breath for Bill Barr’s “investigation”. Barr is part of the swamp.

    I don’t get why Ghislane Maxwell has not been arrested given there are now witnesses who said she was a co-conspirator.

    In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves. …

    That’s Jew York for ya…

    • Replies: @AppliedAspergers
    As of Wednesday, Ghislaine appears to be alive enough to be making public statements about Epstein:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiipZMEYioU
  30. It sounds like law enforcement caught up with Epstein in the early days and “turned” him into one of their own….and the rest is (or is not… 🙂 ) history….

  31. He’s an intelligence mook that probably caught the eyes of his handlers who pushed him further up the chain. Their recruitment can literally be right on the fucking street because you work for someone who they think is into dodgy shit.

    Focus on the earlier parts, he pulled though into wealth very young, so focus around the time he was about 18. That’s when he got recruited to spy on someone for the first time, and it turned out he was damn good at it too.

    • Agree: utu
  32. So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    Probably should delete this sentence, since most POA designees actually are not attorneys.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    Probably should delete this sentence, since most POA designees actually are not attorneys.
     

    But is it customary for a centi-millionaire/billionaire,like Wexner, to give POA to someone like Epstein?
  33. I had never heard of the Walkmeister family. Are they camera shy, too?

  34. @Anon
    That is pretty good detective work Steve. Epstein was once sued by a former client, who said he squandered $400k of his money; he also said he saw no genius in Epstein, and that he never saw him work: "Anyone that rich had to be working 26 hours a day, he played 26 hours a day."

    Now that the judge has dismissed his case brought by 16 women, I guess we'll never learn the truth. Not holding my breath for Bill Barr's "investigation". Barr is part of the swamp.

    I don't get why Ghislane Maxwell has not been arrested given there are now witnesses who said she was a co-conspirator.


    In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves. …
     
    That's Jew York for ya...

    As of Wednesday, Ghislaine appears to be alive enough to be making public statements about Epstein:

  35. So Epstein was basically a thug and a pimp who happened to hit the genetic jackpot — he was born with a high IQ and great social skills, which allowed him to work his grift on a higher class of people.

    This actually makes a lot of sense. It’s the best explanation I’ve seen so far that fits with the available evidence — Epstein seems too crude and slimy to have been a genuine Master of the Universe, while at the same time being smart and smooth enough to plausibly rub shoulders with them. The comparison to Patrick Bateman in “American Psycho” is apt.

    • Agree: PV van der Byl
  36. @dearieme
    Epstein stayed friends with Greenberg and Jimmy Cayne. Presumably, they liked his moxie.



    Exactly what service is "moxie" playing in that sentence I wonder. Anything to do with country matters?

    Years before the collapse of the savings and loan industry, senior year in college, I interviewed with a savings and loan guy in Texas (and did not get hired). The interviewer was the President and thought he had the biggest dick in the world and told me to my face that, unlike another recent hire of his, he thought I lacked “moxie”. The other guy had “moxie” and he hired him.

    A few years later, the institution completely failed – the President lost all his money and although nobody went to jail, they certainly should have, and the whole thing was sold off. Just playing with other people’s money wearing boots and a cowboy hat.

    Since then I have always associated the word “moxie” with the words “complete bullshit” and “lying thieves” – really. If someone tells me “the guy doesn’t know much but he’s sure got a lot of moxie”, I assume whatever he’s doing will end up in a total disaster.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    Almost a hundred years ago, Moxie was the name of a a very aggressively advertised soft drink that, for just one year during the 1920s, displaced Coca-Cola as the best selling soda in the US. Apparently, it is still made in small volumes to a few people in New England.

    But, Moxie remained a popular short-hand for that sort of "drive" long after consumers forgot about the soft drink.
  37. @Paul Jolliffe
    Eddie De Bartolo, NFL Hall of Fame owner of the SF 49'ers figures prominently in the story. De Bartolo and Les Wexner were business partners/associates with (mobbed up) New Jersey trucking company magnate, Frank Walsh.

    When Shapiro was indicted by the grand jury in 1985, the speculation is that he knew the details of the planned "New Albany" development, a series of real estate transactions that would have involved lots of "offers they can't refuse" type deals.
    What else Shapiro may have been in on was unknown.

    Steve's implied point was that the silencing of Shapiro was of considerable interest to powerful people with a great deal to lose.

    That Steve made this point in an article about Epstein implies that Steve has dark suspicions about exactly how Epstein and Wexner became so close beginning around the time of the (unsolved) Shapiro murder.

    "Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

    Why did women’s clothing billionaire Leslie Wexner, a genius at understanding how women want to dress, give Epstein a Manhattan mansion?

    Maybe it was blackmail, maybe payment for some nefarious service . . ."


    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?

    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?

    Or, more plausibly, just that Brooklyn-born Epstein had somehow convinced Ohio-born Wexner that he was in a position to direct hitmen.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    Either way, we agree that Steve was implying that somehow, Epstein may have been involved in the hit on Wexner's accountant/money-man, the guy who was set to squeal to the feds about the shady deals he knew of involving guys like Wexner and DeBartolo.

    When speculating about the source of Epstein's hold on Wexner, Steve even used the word "blackmail", to which plotting and executing the murder of an indicted witness to illegal real estate transactions would certainly qualify.

    If Epstein was involved, then that would clearly explain the bizarre nature of the relationship between Wexner and Epstein. I reject the idea that Wexner (in the mid-'80's) came to know Epstein solely through Epstein's proximity to young women on a mega-scale. That mega-scale was largely the result of Epstein's proximity to powerful men such as Wesner.

    Not the other way around.
  38. @Ibound1
    Years before the collapse of the savings and loan industry, senior year in college, I interviewed with a savings and loan guy in Texas (and did not get hired). The interviewer was the President and thought he had the biggest dick in the world and told me to my face that, unlike another recent hire of his, he thought I lacked “moxie”. The other guy had “moxie” and he hired him.

    A few years later, the institution completely failed - the President lost all his money and although nobody went to jail, they certainly should have, and the whole thing was sold off. Just playing with other people’s money wearing boots and a cowboy hat.

    Since then I have always associated the word “moxie” with the words “complete bullshit” and “lying thieves” - really. If someone tells me “the guy doesn’t know much but he’s sure got a lot of moxie”, I assume whatever he’s doing will end up in a total disaster.

    Almost a hundred years ago, Moxie was the name of a a very aggressively advertised soft drink that, for just one year during the 1920s, displaced Coca-Cola as the best selling soda in the US. Apparently, it is still made in small volumes to a few people in New England.

    But, Moxie remained a popular short-hand for that sort of “drive” long after consumers forgot about the soft drink.

  39. In 1987, he joined a collections agency, Tower Financial, which then tried to buy Pan Am airlines. In 1993 Tower Financial blew up in a big Ponzi scheme and his partner went to jail, but Epstein was nominally separated from the firm by 1989.

    It’s possible that some of Epstein’s teflonness came from serving as a snitch on his fellow crooks?

    Yes, that is what Epstein’s erstwhile buddy and jalbird, Steven Hoffenberg has been saying. Hoffenberg headed Towers Financial and that was where Epstein worked in the late 80s. With some sort of advice from Epstein, Towers acquired two small insurance companies whose assets they used to jump start a large scale Ponzi scheme (Hoffenberg owned the NY Post briefly in the early 90s). The attempted takeover of PanAm may well have been Epstein’s idea.

    As these things inevitably do, Towers crashed spectacularly and both Hoffenberg AND Epstein were named in a federal fraud indictment.

    And then a curious thing happened. Epstein’s name disappeared from subsequent versions of the indictment but Hoffenberg was convicted, sentenced to 20 years, and actually did 18 years. Epstein was on probation for five years for some comparatively minor offense but he never spent a day in prison because of the Towers fraud.

    Hoffenberg is hardly the most credible witness but his claim that Epstein managed to abscond (off-shore accounts?) with a substantial portion of what had been Towers corporate assets is not implausible.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/jeffrey-epsteins-mysterious-wealth-could-be-explained-by-a-ponzi-scheme/

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/did-jeffrey-epstein-help-steven-hoffenberg-swindle-dollar460-million-in-ponzi-scheme

  40. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    POA in trading accounts most often means you have discretion to buy and sell futures, securities, fx etc

    Seldom means you can wire money from the accounts. Compliance goes batshit on that and the paperwork is like a book.

    Essentially you dont have to contact the principal to interact with the markets in the account.

    Example: A guy likes your ideas on several trades that worked, or sees an audited track record of recent outperformance. Hell put 1 million bucks or some other sum in an account and allow you to trade it for a cut of the profits.

    No idea what wexner was doing. At the level of billionaire wealth it becomes less common because the account would have to be massive to be material at all. Sometimes theyll ” seed ” a guy for a slice of a potential funds management company that grows to control large sums and generates big incentive fees.

    No evidence Epstein ever did any trading, and the listed assets in the trust he created prior to death could be complete fiction.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Billionaires typically set up “family offices” which are essentially in-house hedge funds. The Wexner arrangement with Epstein was something stranger.
  41. OT: Thought you might find this amusing, Mr. Sailer.

    Long time reader–will contribute when my Fafsa comes through. You’re doing remarkable work.
    P.S–Observe the reaction of blacks vs. everyone else….they REALLY get the joke!

    • Replies: @Marty
    Good material, but being skinny/lanky might make the difference between hilarious and just funny.
  42. So Epstein homo theories are plausible, but Obama homo theories are crazy!

    • Replies: @Lot
    Sailer’s law of gay rumors: If they love golf, probably false.
  43. @Redneck farmer
    Steve, Ohio has produced Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, and Lemay.
    F***ING WITH BUCKEYES IS A BAD IDEA.

    And also G. A. Custer – I believe he ran into some trouble with Indians (feather not dot).

  44. @Mild Mike
    OT: Thought you might find this amusing, Mr. Sailer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124


    Long time reader--will contribute when my Fafsa comes through. You're doing remarkable work.
    P.S--Observe the reaction of blacks vs. everyone else....they REALLY get the joke!

    Good material, but being skinny/lanky might make the difference between hilarious and just funny.

  45. OT:

  46. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So Epstein homo theories are plausible, but Obama homo theories are crazy!

    Sailer’s law of gay rumors: If they love golf, probably false.

  47. Young Lou Reed?

    Dam son, from the eyebrows down he’s the image of young Barry Soetoro.

  48. @Marty
    So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    Probably should delete this sentence, since most POA designees actually are not attorneys.

    So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.

    Probably should delete this sentence, since most POA designees actually are not attorneys.

    But is it customary for a centi-millionaire/billionaire,like Wexner, to give POA to someone like Epstein?

  49. @Anonymous
    POA in trading accounts most often means you have discretion to buy and sell futures, securities, fx etc


    Seldom means you can wire money from the accounts. Compliance goes batshit on that and the paperwork is like a book.


    Essentially you dont have to contact the principal to interact with the markets in the account.


    Example: A guy likes your ideas on several trades that worked, or sees an audited track record of recent outperformance. Hell put 1 million bucks or some other sum in an account and allow you to trade it for a cut of the profits.

    No idea what wexner was doing. At the level of billionaire wealth it becomes less common because the account would have to be massive to be material at all. Sometimes theyll " seed " a guy for a slice of a potential funds management company that grows to control large sums and generates big incentive fees.

    No evidence Epstein ever did any trading, and the listed assets in the trust he created prior to death could be complete fiction.

    Billionaires typically set up “family offices” which are essentially in-house hedge funds. The Wexner arrangement with Epstein was something stranger.

  50. @Jonathan Mason

    So billionaire Wexner gave power of attorney to non-attorney Jeffrey Epstein as one does.
     
    Power of attorney is not usually given to an attorney. A more typical situation is that a close family member has power of attorney when another family member is in some way incapacitated or absent and unable to pay bills or sign medical consents.

    The lingerie tycoon apparently gave POA to Epstein so that Epstein could manage his investments without Wexner having to bother himself with finance stuff when he could devote his energies to selling ladies panties and sleepwear, whereas Epstein seems to have been more interesting in getting ladies out of panties and having them sleep naked.

    I would guess Epstein knew you don’t cross Wexner so power of attorney isn’t the same problem that it would be for those of us not immersed in the mishpucka.

    Of course Bud Fox got power of attorney from Gekko to distance Gekko from the illegal goings on that Bud was tasked with. Maybe Epstein was simply Bud Fox to Wexner’s Gekko?

  51. @Paul Jolliffe
    Eddie De Bartolo, NFL Hall of Fame owner of the SF 49'ers figures prominently in the story. De Bartolo and Les Wexner were business partners/associates with (mobbed up) New Jersey trucking company magnate, Frank Walsh.

    When Shapiro was indicted by the grand jury in 1985, the speculation is that he knew the details of the planned "New Albany" development, a series of real estate transactions that would have involved lots of "offers they can't refuse" type deals.
    What else Shapiro may have been in on was unknown.

    Steve's implied point was that the silencing of Shapiro was of considerable interest to powerful people with a great deal to lose.

    That Steve made this point in an article about Epstein implies that Steve has dark suspicions about exactly how Epstein and Wexner became so close beginning around the time of the (unsolved) Shapiro murder.

    "Epstein was basically a low class guy from Coney Island who had acquired a high class veneer through classical music camp and the like that let him fit in in executive suites. But his specialties were basically in low class mobbed-up activities like collections where the threat of violence or other illegal activities can be a big help.

    Why did women’s clothing billionaire Leslie Wexner, a genius at understanding how women want to dress, give Epstein a Manhattan mansion?

    Maybe it was blackmail, maybe payment for some nefarious service . . ."


    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?

    Really I suspect it came to Wexner’s attention that Epstein liked very young women and had no moral compass so he was a good fit for ‘managing’ the young models at his fashion company.

  52. @PV van der Byl

    Is Steve hinting that he suspects that Epstein may have been the hired hitman?
     
    Or, more plausibly, just that Brooklyn-born Epstein had somehow convinced Ohio-born Wexner that he was in a position to direct hitmen.

    Either way, we agree that Steve was implying that somehow, Epstein may have been involved in the hit on Wexner’s accountant/money-man, the guy who was set to squeal to the feds about the shady deals he knew of involving guys like Wexner and DeBartolo.

    When speculating about the source of Epstein’s hold on Wexner, Steve even used the word “blackmail”, to which plotting and executing the murder of an indicted witness to illegal real estate transactions would certainly qualify.

    If Epstein was involved, then that would clearly explain the bizarre nature of the relationship between Wexner and Epstein. I reject the idea that Wexner (in the mid-’80’s) came to know Epstein solely through Epstein’s proximity to young women on a mega-scale. That mega-scale was largely the result of Epstein’s proximity to powerful men such as Wesner.

    Not the other way around.

    • Agree: PV van der Byl
  53. What was his relationship with Jordan Belfort?

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