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From The Atlantic:

America’s Uneven Crime Spike

Violence in a few major cities drove the national murder rate higher in 2016, according to new FBI statistics.

MATT FORD 5:57 PM ET

… Chicago ended 2016 with 762 murders, a whopping 58 percent jump over 2015’s total. Baltimore experienced its second-deadliest year on record with 358 murders, surpassing the previous record set in 2015.

That disparity could be felt in the national stats. John Pfaff, a Fordham University law professor who studies crime statistics, noted on Twitter that 22 percent of the nationwide increase in murders came from Chicago alone. But inside Chicago itself, 50 percent of the homicide rise came from just five neighborhoods, which account for only 9 percent of the city’s overall population. Those neighborhoods, in effect, account for 10 percent of the national increase in murders. …

What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there. Shootings and murders noticeably rose around the time that the Chicago Police Department released a video of officers killing 17-year-old Laquan McDonald in November 2015, but it’s uncertain if a subsequent drop in police street searches played a role.

In other words, the giant spike in homicides in Chicago’s black neighborhoods started on the day in November 2015 when BLM/ACLU scored a huge political victory over CPD. But causality is all very mysterious. As David Hume said, how can we be sure the rock falls to the ground because you released it? Maybe it was just a big coincidence? Who really knows?

 
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  1. If a statistic falls in the forest and the media aren’t there to hear it, did it really happen?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ivy

    Not IF the media is cultural Marxist.

    Replies: @Wally

    , @Pericles
    @Ivy

    If a statistic is released on Friday afternoon, did it really happen?

  2. Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like “Occam’s Butterknife” or “Invade/Invite”.

    We’re waiting expectantly!

    • Agree: Stan d Mute, Abe
    • Replies: @Elsewhere
    @Chrisnonymous

    Occam shrugged?

    , @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    Humean Coincidence?

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Chrisnonymous

    , @bomag
    @Chrisnonymous

    "Inevitable ignorance"?

    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    @Chrisnonymous

    Random Events Occur In Clusters.


    (which is technically true)

    , @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    @Chrisnonymous

    Causeophobia in the name of the good cause. Bad causes never have any effects!

    , @res
    @Chrisnonymous

    Casuistry and Effect

    Courtesy of commenter Ivy earlier this month: https://www.unz.com/isteve/penn-law-school-profs-point-n-sputter-at-amy-wax/#comment-1990456

    Most relevant definition of casuistry: the use of clever but unsound reasoning, especially in relation to moral questions; sophistry

    Also see the beginning of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuistry


    The agreed meaning of "casuistry" is in flux. The term can be used either to describe a presumably acceptable form of reasoning or a form of reasoning that is inherently unsound and deceptive. Most or all philosophical dictionaries list the neutral sense as the first or only definition.[2][3][4] On the other hand, the Oxford English Dictionary states that the word "[o]ften (and perhaps originally) applied to a quibbling or evasive way of dealing with difficult cases of duty." Its textual references, except for certain technical usages, are consistently pejorative (eg. "Casuistry destroys by Distinctions and Exceptions, all Morality, and effaces the essential Difference between Right and Wrong").[5]
     
  3. So long as low-end blacks are killing other low-end blacks…

    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing. But this is the choice they’ve made. Who am I to tell them otherwise?

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Yak-15

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources--health care, police, prison... I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Yak-15

    , @bomag
    @Yak-15


    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing.
     
    Yeah, we could start by policing our borders; then move on to debilitating drugs; the moral code; etc.

    But as we roar into the brave, new future of machines and winner-take-all economics, society's shackles become lighter so the populace can have more distractions.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    , @Rod1963
    @Yak-15

    Blacks are given every opportunity in this country to excel. They have access to schools and jobs that most whites aren't even allowed to try out for.

    Yet they manage to screw it all up, time and again. Does Detroit ring a bell for you?

    Now for Chicago, that is a odd case. See Chicago is a major hub for drug distribution across the U.S. and most of the shootings there are drug related. The cops do little because the political class and judges have shackled them. The only reason why is because they are involved in the drug trade themselves in some manner.

    No one wants to look too deeply into how far the connections go, not even the DOJ which has done nothing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Yak-15

  4. What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.

    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation… and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I’ve lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Dr. X


    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so.
     
    Isn’t this just a perfect descriptor of this map?

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

    Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Neil Templeton, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Flip
    @Dr. X

    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago's gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dr. X


    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.
     
    49er Eric Reid in a NYT op-ed:

    In early 2016, I began paying attention to reports about the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police. The posts on social media deeply disturbed me, but one in particular brought me to tears: the killing of Alton Sterling in my hometown Baton Rouge, La. This could have happened to any of my family members who still live in the area. […]

    I have too often seen our efforts belittled with statements like “He should have listened to the officer,” after watching an unarmed black person get shot [...]
     
    Don’t mind if I do:

    https://twitter.com/bmiles2000/status/911998056836370432

    Replies: @George

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Dr. X

    OT, but related to your comment, Dr. X: I only heard in 2 places (VDare blog being one of them) on-line out of many that the black immigrant "church-going" (at least once?) murderer in central Tenn. was stopped by a man who grabbed his gun out of his car. It makes you wonder if that church will encourage concealed weapons in the sanctuary from now on. They seem to always leave that part out in the "news". Maybe another one of these big coincidences.

    Found it, and it was a blog post by our friend John Derbyshire.

    From "Carpet-Bombing The Social Justice Narrative–Tennessee Church Shooting Is Dylann Roof In Reverse":


    • Samson’s murder spree is cut short by someone running to his vehicle to grab his gun and then exercise his Second Amendment right to hold Samson down until police arrived.
     

    Replies: @StillCARealist

    , @Eric Novak
    @Dr. X

    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois' concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.

    Replies: @Dr. X

  5. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    Occam shrugged?

  6. @Dr. X

    What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.
     
    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation... and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I've lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Flip, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Achmed E. Newman, @Eric Novak

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so.

    Isn’t this just a perfect descriptor of this map?

    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Stan d Mute

    Anybody else tired of the right being labelled "Red?"

    It's like everything else the media trade in deceptions and distractions to "fight stereotypes."

    The left loves socialism. Is there shame in that? If not, Red is the correct color. Own it.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Buzz Mohawk, @Tim Howells

    , @Neil Templeton
    @Stan d Mute

    Red is Where the Roys are.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan d Mute

    They lost the Driftless on this map. Is the Iron Range next?

    When Vermont and the Berkshires go, then the entire country, save college counties, will have racialized partisanship.

  7. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    Humean Coincidence?

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Anonymous

    Haha, I was going to say Hume-incidence

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous

    I like the similar sound of "human" and "Humean"...

    Humean Error:

    "Q: How did that pattern get missed?
    A: Oh, it must have been Humean Error."

    Humean Nature:

    "Being confused over a coincidence like this is just Humean Nature."


    There there is the similar sound of "Hume" and "hom-"...

    Hume-icide / Humecide:

    "There's been a drastic increase in Humecide over the last 2 years."


    And finally, there is the descent in pure punning:

    "Q: What's been going on with the murder rate in Chicago?
    A: Oh, it's just the Hume-idity!"


    Also, did you know that the name "Hume" is related to the name "Holmes" via Old Norse "hulm"? That makes a police investigative pun on the name "Hume" ever so much more appropriate!!

  8. So if the murder rate in Chicago is maybe 10x what it is in white rural area and the murder rate in inner city neighborhoods is 10x the rate for the rest of Chicago, what does that make the rate in those area? Is it higher than El Salvador or Nicaragua?

  9. at some point, you must admit, no one cares – boring. The city of Chicago becomes like Detroit…ewwww. Nothing is working even if so many pretend it is great. Chicago is over. The airports will continue to be ok, but the city is so not SV. Even the fact that hurricanes and tornadoes are not an issue, Chicago is not a magnet for Millennials…the younger ones. Chicago politicians created this fiasco; they own this fiasco. Chicago is the party of Democrats: OWN GOAL.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Lagertha

    The white areas of Chicago are currently experiencing a construction boom and are drawing in young people from all over the country. It is the nicest it has been for the last 30 years. Rahm just needs to keep the black crime from spilling over.

    , @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Nah. I don't know what the future holds, but right now, a bunch of north side and near north west neighborhoods are nothing short of picturesque. Bricktown and Ravenswood are just two examples of neighborhoods that look like idyllic places to grow up, if you like small historic towns, bustling with creative, peaceful productivity, within a big city. And Logan Square and Wicker Park are just two examples of where a person who deems himself quirky, alternative or even risque might enjoy spending time, without much actual risk. Much of West Town looks like a set decorator's attractive version of "gritty" part of town. You know, with industrial coffee shops and used guitar stores, and Ukrainian pastries being sold by hard Ukrainian women to men with 5 o'clock shadows at noon on Sundays.

    Young people everywhere. Young families everywhere. Joggers. Rescue mutts.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @AP
    @Lagertha

    Sorry, this is nonsensical. Chicago has split into two cities: Toronto in the North, and Detroit in the South. Chicago's north (starting with and including downtown, then spreading along the lake into the northern suburbs), combined with adjacent suburbs, probably has at least 3-4 million people.

  10. • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I sat down, turned on the toob and thought "oh, my childhood love, America's Team, The Dallas Cowboys are playing, its the 4th quarter of a close game, i'll just watch a bit...."

    Five minutes later i read that the entire team, along with that a$$h0le Jones, knelt.

    NFL is officially dead to me.

    Replies: @Wally, @Buffalo Joe

  11. @Dr. X

    What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.
     
    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation... and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I've lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Flip, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Achmed E. Newman, @Eric Novak

    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago’s gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Flip

    The Supreme Court overturned the Chicago gun control law. The case was initiated by a black man.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Flip


    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago’s gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight
     
    Congrats!

    Not just on the new laws, but on the 2nd part, having the guns already anyway per US Constitution Amend. II.
  12. Okay. So how can we move them out to the suburbs faster? For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit? Downtown and Navy Pier would be safer. And the criminals wouldn’t miss it if we moved them into newish, well maintained apartments with plush carpet and no pesky noise interfering with their day naps. Mundelein, Glenview, Vernon Hills, Arlington Heights, Buffalo Grove, Highland Park are all very good locations for resettlement. Rich people can keep their historic lakefront suburban towns, I suppose. I am not a monster.

    As a teen, I’ve never even been to the south side. Since coming back in my late 20s, with some parts of it gentrifying slowly (very slowly), I got to go to an underground indy techno fest and a street arts showcasing. Turns out there are historic neighborhoods on the south side that have a different look and feel and culinary tradition, ect.. How do thw criminals and their moms benefit from any of this? They don’t. They will appreciate the beauty of the suburbs like I never could.

    Oh, and the west side is gorgeous! Seriously, the parks and majestic buildings (is that a synagogue, originally? Or a symphony?). West Humboldt Park is beautiful. As soon as the shootings stop there, and moms with prams stop being terrified to set foot on the ground, enough wealth could be generated to give all the criminals a small daily Uber allowance. Because they will not have public transit. Maybe to the mall and back. Again, I’m not a monster.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Maya


    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?
     
    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a "Second Avenue" Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out.......

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes---so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you're rich, you can't afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also "Museum Mile", where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You'd think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can't get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you're in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. "Our transportation discriminates so we don't have to."

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @TomSchmidt, @prosa123, @Reg Cæsar

    , @George
    @Maya

    "Chicago has a pretty good subway system." The huge attraction for Chicago is O'hare airport. cities are dividing into hubs and not hubs. This may be partly due to the GWOT is adding time to travel plans so previously acceptable if not desirable cities like Hartford are now backwaters.

    Why can't other places reproduce the magic? Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful. Make sure fast reliable transportation to and from it to basically everywhere, as was done in Columbia with busses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

    Force congressional delegations to support the plan.

    I suspect that the ag lobby in Iowa will not be on board with anything not spelled ethanol. The real advantage a place like Chicago has over Boise is Chicago has exactly one path, corporate HQs and back offices. So the entire state of Illinois is more or less behind it.

    Replies: @DFH, @Maya

  13. @Lagertha
    at some point, you must admit, no one cares - boring. The city of Chicago becomes like Detroit...ewwww. Nothing is working even if so many pretend it is great. Chicago is over. The airports will continue to be ok, but the city is so not SV. Even the fact that hurricanes and tornadoes are not an issue, Chicago is not a magnet for Millennials...the younger ones. Chicago politicians created this fiasco; they own this fiasco. Chicago is the party of Democrats: OWN GOAL.

    Replies: @Flip, @Maya, @AP

    The white areas of Chicago are currently experiencing a construction boom and are drawing in young people from all over the country. It is the nicest it has been for the last 30 years. Rahm just needs to keep the black crime from spilling over.

  14. @Flip
    @Dr. X

    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago's gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Achmed E. Newman

    The Supreme Court overturned the Chicago gun control law. The case was initiated by a black man.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @MBlanc46

    MBlanc, record numbers of black women are applying for and receiving Conceal/carry pistol permits in Chicago.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  15. @Lagertha
    at some point, you must admit, no one cares - boring. The city of Chicago becomes like Detroit...ewwww. Nothing is working even if so many pretend it is great. Chicago is over. The airports will continue to be ok, but the city is so not SV. Even the fact that hurricanes and tornadoes are not an issue, Chicago is not a magnet for Millennials...the younger ones. Chicago politicians created this fiasco; they own this fiasco. Chicago is the party of Democrats: OWN GOAL.

    Replies: @Flip, @Maya, @AP

    Nah. I don’t know what the future holds, but right now, a bunch of north side and near north west neighborhoods are nothing short of picturesque. Bricktown and Ravenswood are just two examples of neighborhoods that look like idyllic places to grow up, if you like small historic towns, bustling with creative, peaceful productivity, within a big city. And Logan Square and Wicker Park are just two examples of where a person who deems himself quirky, alternative or even risque might enjoy spending time, without much actual risk. Much of West Town looks like a set decorator’s attractive version of “gritty” part of town. You know, with industrial coffee shops and used guitar stores, and Ukrainian pastries being sold by hard Ukrainian women to men with 5 o’clock shadows at noon on Sundays.

    Young people everywhere. Young families everywhere. Joggers. Rescue mutts.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Maya

    you lost me at "mutts." Sorry - enjoy the decline.

    Replies: @Maya

  16. Unrelated, but of interest. A portrait of an anti-Trump hero. Ticks a lot of boxes in terms of class and career choices.

    http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-Grad-Student-Who-Wants-to/241230?cid=trend_right_t

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AKAHorace

    Here are the names that the article written by David Schimke mentions:

    Nihal Mehta
    Reshma Saujani
    Ryan Shapiro
    Jeffrey Light
    Sarahjane Blum
    Lyel Resner
    Peter Novick
    Andy Stepanian
    Harriet Ritvo

    Which basically only leaves a question of who is Jeffrey Light, attorney in DC? Everyone else is an ethnic minority, which is hardly a coincidence.

  17. @Stan d Mute
    @Dr. X


    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so.
     
    Isn’t this just a perfect descriptor of this map?

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

    Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Neil Templeton, @Reg Cæsar

    Anybody else tired of the right being labelled “Red?”

    It’s like everything else the media trade in deceptions and distractions to “fight stereotypes.”

    The left loves socialism. Is there shame in that? If not, Red is the correct color. Own it.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    I think Bush/Gore had reversed colors and the map "went viral" (before going viral was really a thing)... But in any event it was a lot stickier than such maps had been up to that point... especially county breakdowns... Dems realized they'd be labeled "Red" and the media quickly switched it

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    I'd keep red. It's just as American as blue, obviously. (Communists came later.) Red is a powerful color. It's been shown to be advantageous in competition.

    , @Tim Howells
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    Interesting question. The red/blue thing used to be flipped with red (logically) associated with the left (i.e. Democrats) and blue the Republicans:

    http://www.calnewsroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1980-Reagan-Landslide.png

    This was flipped after the fall of the Soviet Union and the release of KGB files confirming our darkest suspicions. Then the corporate media decided that conservatives rather than liberals should have the red color association.

    On the other hand it's been demonstrated that Olympic athletes win more when wearing red rather than blue uniforms.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0518_050518_redsports.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  18. Having been to Chicago less than a month ago, I was actually quite impressed. Cleaner and friendlier than New York, and food to die for. And I felt quite safe walking around at night. That said, I never ventured farther south than Soldier Field, no farther north than Old Town, and no farther west than the first bend in the Chicago River. What surprised me is how few black people I saw. In fact, I saw a lot more Mexicans, and they were more like the amicable Texas Mexicans than the surly California ones. Reading up more on the demographics of Chicago after my trip, I figured the reason for the few number of black peoples I saw; Chicago is in all likelihood the most segregated city in the nation. There are some districts in Chicago that are 99% black, and several suburbs that are less than 1% black. Contrast this with my home town of Atlanta in the intolerant South. Even the whitest suburbs there are at least 10% black.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "Cleaner and friendlier than New York ... . "

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar, @Perspective

    , @Anon87
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    I was just there as well. Downtown is still a great place to visit, but it wears thin. You won't get shot, but bums can ruin your time with their aggressive panhandling.

  19. @Flip
    @Dr. X

    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago's gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually a few years ago the state of Illinois preempted Chicago’s gun laws and now it is no worse than the rest of the state. My guns went from illegal to legal overnight

    Congrats!

    Not just on the new laws, but on the 2nd part, having the guns already anyway per US Constitution Amend. II.

  20. @Stan d Mute
    @Dr. X


    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so.
     
    Isn’t this just a perfect descriptor of this map?

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

    Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Neil Templeton, @Reg Cæsar

    Red is Where the Roys are.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Neil Templeton


    Red is Where the Roys are.
     
    As opposed to the Leroys?

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

  21. @Dr. X

    What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.
     
    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation... and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I've lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Flip, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Achmed E. Newman, @Eric Novak

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    49er Eric Reid in a NYT op-ed:

    In early 2016, I began paying attention to reports about the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police. The posts on social media deeply disturbed me, but one in particular brought me to tears: the killing of Alton Sterling in my hometown Baton Rouge, La. This could have happened to any of my family members who still live in the area. […]

    I have too often seen our efforts belittled with statements like “He should have listened to the officer,” after watching an unarmed black person get shot […]

    Don’t mind if I do:

    https://twitter.com/bmiles2000/status/911998056836370432

    • Replies: @George
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Perp made the wrong choice

    Man awarded $1.3M after surveillance video contradicts deputies’ version of arrest
    Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e10_1506359088#A3sFUYqIm75mGZfY.99

    Replies: @res

  22. @Dr. X

    What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.
     
    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation... and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I've lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Flip, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Achmed E. Newman, @Eric Novak

    OT, but related to your comment, Dr. X: I only heard in 2 places (VDare blog being one of them) on-line out of many that the black immigrant “church-going” (at least once?) murderer in central Tenn. was stopped by a man who grabbed his gun out of his car. It makes you wonder if that church will encourage concealed weapons in the sanctuary from now on. They seem to always leave that part out in the “news”. Maybe another one of these big coincidences.

    Found it, and it was a blog post by our friend John Derbyshire.

    From “Carpet-Bombing The Social Justice Narrative–Tennessee Church Shooting Is Dylann Roof In Reverse”:

    • Samson’s murder spree is cut short by someone running to his vehicle to grab his gun and then exercise his Second Amendment right to hold Samson down until police arrived.

    • Replies: @StillCARealist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Churches are now doing Sheepdog Seminars, where they teach congregants how to deal with safety and threats to the church. I didn't attend one, but my friends at a local large evangelical church tell me they have men (and women) in the church who are now regularly carrying and doing unofficial security at all events. Plenty of prison guards and off duty cops and military veterans attend these churches. They are now all being encouraged to be sheepdogs.

    Love it.

  23. @Yak-15
    So long as low-end blacks are killing other low-end blacks...

    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing. But this is the choice they've made. Who am I to tell them otherwise?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @bomag, @Rod1963

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources–health care, police, prison… I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Chrisnonymous

    " low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason."

    What do you suggest? They've made it pretty clear they don't like being policed.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Chrisnonymous

    Since 1965, we've set fire to at least a trillion dollars and twisted our society and our Constitution into an unrecognizable mess, all for the sake of treating 13% of our population like Tiffany glass sculptures.

    Result? What you see around you every day.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Chrisnonymous

    Chris, the U of Chicago and their medical school did research that states that the average cost of a shooting, fatal or non fatal, is $85,000. Just google University of Chicago study says cost of shooting is $85. Pretty thorough study.

    , @Yak-15
    @Chrisnonymous

    Our friend and fellow traveler Buffalo Joe cites a study that estimates each shooting at $85,000 in total costs.

    Though callous to ask, do these deaths save us money over the long term? Kids, welfare, education waste, etc.

  24. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    “Inevitable ignorance”?

  25. @Yak-15
    So long as low-end blacks are killing other low-end blacks...

    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing. But this is the choice they've made. Who am I to tell them otherwise?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @bomag, @Rod1963

    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing.

    Yeah, we could start by policing our borders; then move on to debilitating drugs; the moral code; etc.

    But as we roar into the brave, new future of machines and winner-take-all economics, society’s shackles become lighter so the populace can have more distractions.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @bomag

    I wish society would lighten up MY shackles just a skosh. I've got some new distractions I'd like to try out.

    Oh, yeah.

  26. @Lagertha
    at some point, you must admit, no one cares - boring. The city of Chicago becomes like Detroit...ewwww. Nothing is working even if so many pretend it is great. Chicago is over. The airports will continue to be ok, but the city is so not SV. Even the fact that hurricanes and tornadoes are not an issue, Chicago is not a magnet for Millennials...the younger ones. Chicago politicians created this fiasco; they own this fiasco. Chicago is the party of Democrats: OWN GOAL.

    Replies: @Flip, @Maya, @AP

    Sorry, this is nonsensical. Chicago has split into two cities: Toronto in the North, and Detroit in the South. Chicago’s north (starting with and including downtown, then spreading along the lake into the northern suburbs), combined with adjacent suburbs, probably has at least 3-4 million people.

  27. @Ivy
    If a statistic falls in the forest and the media aren't there to hear it, did it really happen?

    Replies: @anon, @Pericles

    Not IF the media is cultural Marxist.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @anon

    Cultural Marxism Explained In 7 minutes
    by Joseph Salerno

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/09/joseph-salerno/cultural-marxism-explained-in-7-minutes/

  28. @Maya
    Okay. So how can we move them out to the suburbs faster? For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn't everyone be happier if the criminals didn't have access to convenient public transit? Downtown and Navy Pier would be safer. And the criminals wouldn't miss it if we moved them into newish, well maintained apartments with plush carpet and no pesky noise interfering with their day naps. Mundelein, Glenview, Vernon Hills, Arlington Heights, Buffalo Grove, Highland Park are all very good locations for resettlement. Rich people can keep their historic lakefront suburban towns, I suppose. I am not a monster.

    As a teen, I've never even been to the south side. Since coming back in my late 20s, with some parts of it gentrifying slowly (very slowly), I got to go to an underground indy techno fest and a street arts showcasing. Turns out there are historic neighborhoods on the south side that have a different look and feel and culinary tradition, ect.. How do thw criminals and their moms benefit from any of this? They don't. They will appreciate the beauty of the suburbs like I never could.

    Oh, and the west side is gorgeous! Seriously, the parks and majestic buildings (is that a synagogue, originally? Or a symphony?). West Humboldt Park is beautiful. As soon as the shootings stop there, and moms with prams stop being terrified to set foot on the ground, enough wealth could be generated to give all the criminals a small daily Uber allowance. Because they will not have public transit. Maybe to the mall and back. Again, I'm not a monster.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @George

    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?

    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a “Second Avenue” Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out…….

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes—so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you’re rich, you can’t afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also “Museum Mile”, where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You’d think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. “Our transportation discriminates so we don’t have to.”

    • Replies: @Patrick Harris
    @whorefinder

    Same thing with Georgetown, and plenty of other choice neighborhoods I imagine.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @whorefinder

    They did build the "stubway" on 2nd avenue with stops at 72nd, 86th, and 96th. Very deep train, but it has quickly become popular.

    Maybe 100 years after tearing down the El they will have a replacement.

    , @prosa123
    @whorefinder

    "In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood."

    Which makes me wonder how the hipsters and trust funders and other trendoids in Williamsburg will manage. About a year from now the L train, which serves the area, will shut down for at least a year (which of course means much longer) for tunnel repairs. None of the alternative routes into Manhattan are remotely as fast.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    ...much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways
     
    Oxymoron of the week. Unless you meant sandwich shops.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood.
     
    Opponents of the white rail-- excuse me, light rail-- transit system in the Twin Cities insisted it would attract and facilitate criminals.

    But, as the late dyed-in-the-wool right-winger Paul Weyrich pointed out, it can also bring a stream of white folks back into the city. They hate the bus, but like the train.

    Whether this is worth the outrageous subsidy is a valid question, but one which can also be applied to the freeways that lured white folks out to the exurbs.

    Replies: @whorefinder

  29. Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that’s the law in a year.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Whiskey

    Problem: Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that’s the law in a year.

    Solution: Blow up your TV.

    Questions: Who in the hell is Popovich? Why in the hell should I care who Popovich is?

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Whiskey

    Is this one of these post-modern ironic humor things that I'm just too linear to "get"?

    The outcome is more likely to be an exact 180 from what you prophesy. The bread-and-circuses machine is the one control device that's kept the Deplorables quiescent year after year. Trump observed the NFL not just shooting itself in the foot, but firing Barrett rounds up and down both its legs, and he is helping the process along. Once Trump helps his Middle American constituency realize that their corporate masters hate, hate, hate them and everything they hold dear, it's the opening wedge to very interesting times indeed.

    Used to really like your blog. You should get the old Whiskey's Place going again.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, to true to laugh.

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, the anti-prophet.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @Lagertha
    @Whiskey

    you're getting lazy. Why the bar-b-que visuals - so not essential? No; corporatists will strangle the owners....and, the players - they will, literally, drown them. No one will be able to breath. Because: MIC is pissed! They have sunk millions into this pageantry to keep the rubes to join the wars-for-profit, and Kaepernick & Co. are bringing pathos/different agenda to the narrative.

  30. @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    Humean Coincidence?

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Chrisnonymous

    Haha, I was going to say Hume-incidence

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    That's a Hume-ongusly Hume-orful pun. However, Steve can't use it because it would be Hume-iliating to steal an iSteve-ism from a reader.

  31. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Stan d Mute

    Anybody else tired of the right being labelled "Red?"

    It's like everything else the media trade in deceptions and distractions to "fight stereotypes."

    The left loves socialism. Is there shame in that? If not, Red is the correct color. Own it.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Buzz Mohawk, @Tim Howells

    I think Bush/Gore had reversed colors and the map “went viral” (before going viral was really a thing)… But in any event it was a lot stickier than such maps had been up to that point… especially county breakdowns… Dems realized they’d be labeled “Red” and the media quickly switched it

  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/912475288499621888

    Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya

    I sat down, turned on the toob and thought “oh, my childhood love, America’s Team, The Dallas Cowboys are playing, its the 4th quarter of a close game, i’ll just watch a bit….”

    Five minutes later i read that the entire team, along with that a$$h0le Jones, knelt.

    NFL is officially dead to me.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya

    NFL ignores own rules:

    https://news.grabien.com/story-roger-goodell-ignoring-leagues-own-rule-book-letting-players

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya

    Jeremiah, I made a determination not to watch the game. The fact that Jon Gruden would probably wade in on the protest made my decision easier.

  33. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    Random Events Occur In Clusters.

    (which is technically true)

  34. Causality is dead.

    We are not allowed to use the concept anymore. Not even allowed to think it. This is all part of not noticing.

    (Pattern recognition is also illegal now.)

    Anyway, we’re supposed to think the cops caused it:

    “…officers killing 17-year-old Laquan McDonald…”

  35. @whorefinder
    @Maya


    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?
     
    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a "Second Avenue" Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out.......

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes---so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you're rich, you can't afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also "Museum Mile", where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You'd think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can't get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you're in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. "Our transportation discriminates so we don't have to."

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @TomSchmidt, @prosa123, @Reg Cæsar

    Same thing with Georgetown, and plenty of other choice neighborhoods I imagine.

  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AKAHorace
    Unrelated, but of interest. A portrait of an anti-Trump hero. Ticks a lot of boxes in terms of class and career choices.


    http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-Grad-Student-Who-Wants-to/241230?cid=trend_right_t

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Here are the names that the article written by David Schimke mentions:

    Nihal Mehta
    Reshma Saujani
    Ryan Shapiro
    Jeffrey Light
    Sarahjane Blum
    Lyel Resner
    Peter Novick
    Andy Stepanian
    Harriet Ritvo

    Which basically only leaves a question of who is Jeffrey Light, attorney in DC? Everyone else is an ethnic minority, which is hardly a coincidence.

  37. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Having been to Chicago less than a month ago, I was actually quite impressed. Cleaner and friendlier than New York, and food to die for. And I felt quite safe walking around at night. That said, I never ventured farther south than Soldier Field, no farther north than Old Town, and no farther west than the first bend in the Chicago River. What surprised me is how few black people I saw. In fact, I saw a lot more Mexicans, and they were more like the amicable Texas Mexicans than the surly California ones. Reading up more on the demographics of Chicago after my trip, I figured the reason for the few number of black peoples I saw; Chicago is in all likelihood the most segregated city in the nation. There are some districts in Chicago that are 99% black, and several suburbs that are less than 1% black. Contrast this with my home town of Atlanta in the intolerant South. Even the whitest suburbs there are at least 10% black.

    Replies: @Wally, @Anon87

    “Cleaner and friendlier than New York … . ”

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Wally

    A New Yorker friend of mine says, "I love New York when it rains. It makes its own gravy."

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Wally


    “Cleaner and friendlier than New York … . ”

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.
     
    The Economist or the Financial Times (or perhaps both) reported a few years ago on a study that showed New York to be the most polite of all the cities surveyed. However, no other US city was included.
    , @Perspective
    @Wally

    I found the people in NYC to be quite friendly and engaging - for better and worse. Much prefer that to the very indifferent and pretentious Torontonians.

  38. @anon
    @Ivy

    Not IF the media is cultural Marxist.

    Replies: @Wally

  39. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I sat down, turned on the toob and thought "oh, my childhood love, America's Team, The Dallas Cowboys are playing, its the 4th quarter of a close game, i'll just watch a bit...."

    Five minutes later i read that the entire team, along with that a$$h0le Jones, knelt.

    NFL is officially dead to me.

    Replies: @Wally, @Buffalo Joe

  40. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Stan d Mute

    Anybody else tired of the right being labelled "Red?"

    It's like everything else the media trade in deceptions and distractions to "fight stereotypes."

    The left loves socialism. Is there shame in that? If not, Red is the correct color. Own it.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Buzz Mohawk, @Tim Howells

    I’d keep red. It’s just as American as blue, obviously. (Communists came later.) Red is a powerful color. It’s been shown to be advantageous in competition.

  41. @Dr. X

    What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there.
     
    This is nothing short of Soviet-style 2+2=5 propaganda. Chicago and Baltimore have some of the most unconstitutionally stringent gun control laws in the nation... and shootings committed by whites are almost non-existent, while shootings committed by blacks increase.

    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so. The only homicides that have occurred in my town in the quarter-century I've lived in it were both married couple murder-suicides after the wife informed the husband she was getting banged by someone else and was leaving and taking the kids, the car, and all the money.

    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute, @Flip, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Achmed E. Newman, @Eric Novak

    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois’ concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Eric Novak


    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois’ concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.
     
    So, are you presuming that the perpetrators of Chicago's 4,600 shootings last year were CCW holders with legally purchased guns?

    Replies: @Eric Novak

  42. @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    Humean Coincidence?

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Chrisnonymous

    I like the similar sound of “human” and “Humean”…

    Humean Error:

    “Q: How did that pattern get missed?
    A: Oh, it must have been Humean Error.”

    Humean Nature:

    “Being confused over a coincidence like this is just Humean Nature.”

    There there is the similar sound of “Hume” and “hom-“…

    Hume-icide / Humecide:

    “There’s been a drastic increase in Humecide over the last 2 years.”

    And finally, there is the descent in pure punning:

    “Q: What’s been going on with the murder rate in Chicago?
    A: Oh, it’s just the Hume-idity!”

    Also, did you know that the name “Hume” is related to the name “Holmes” via Old Norse “hulm”? That makes a police investigative pun on the name “Hume” ever so much more appropriate!!

  43. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Wow. Just Wow.

    http://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/attachments/store/2435a5d4658e2ca19f4f225b810ce0dbdb9231cbdb8d702e784087469ee3/UChicagoCrimeLab+Gun+Violence+in+Chicago+2016.pdf

    It is all here. Wrapped up in a bow.

    They just can’t bring themselves to say the words.

    Although African Americans comprise about one-third of the city’s population, they made up almost 80 percent of homicide victims in both 2015 and 2016…. In contrast, whites comprise about one-third of the city’s population but make up approximately 5 percent of its homicide victims.

    So can we say it is a ‘Black’ problem? 80% of it, anyway? That it has something to do with Black …. errr… .lives? This is just too confusing and difficult and the confounding variables.

    Around 80 percent of Chicago’s homicide victims in 2015 and 2016 had at least one prior arrest, almost 40 percent had a prior violent crime arrest, and almost 30 percent had a prior gun arrest. Nearly 40 percent of victims had more than 10 prior arrests, while the share with more than 20 prior arrests rose from 14 to 18 percent in 2016. The share of victims with a current or prior gang a liation as recorded by CPD was about the same in both years (53 and 54 percent).

    In my suburban county with a first world homicide rate per 100,000 — between 1 and 2 …. someone with 10 priors and a gun arrest would have migrated to the state penitentiary for the rest of their natural life. So we don’t seem to have this epidemic. And in Chicago, the Police Superintendent has complained endlessly that the courts aren’t prosecuting gun offenses.

    In 2016, Chicago police made 24 percent fewer arrests than in 2015, accelerating the steady downward trend in arrests the city has seen in recent years. However, this overall reduction in arrests seems to have been driven largely by a decline in arrests for drug o enses, which fell by 44 percent from 2015 to 2016.

    That is fascinating. I wonder which neighborhoods were seeing this dramatic reduction in police activity? And why.

    Chicago police recorded over 80 percent fewer stops in January 2016 than they had in November 2015. This drop, from an average of over 50,000 stops per month in 2015 (through November) to approximately 10,000 stops per month starting in early 2016, began a few months before rates of gun violence in Chicago began to increase.

    We all know that it is possible to do smarter policing and target the problem areas — so maybe they were doing exactly that. Did they target the 5 neighborhoods with 1/10th of the national increase in homicides when they reduced stops by 80%? I guess they ran out of money before they could look into this.

    What was the cause of this depolicing?

    What caused the decline is itself unclear. Several frequently-mentioned candidate explanations—the release of video footage showing the shooting by a CPD o cer of teenager Laquan McDonald, announcement of a U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation of CPD, implementation of an agreement between the City and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) concerning street stops, and a new state law regarding street stops—all happened essentially within a few weeks of each other in late 2015 and early 2016.24

    Maybe we could ask police. Or spend a couple of hours reading what the police write on the blog, Second City Cop. Or not.

    Our hope is that the data reported here may be helpful to the ongoing conversation in Chicago about how to improve the safety and well-being of all residents of our home city….
    Unfortunately, the available data cannot at this time point definitively to what caused the increase in gun violence in Chicago in 2016.

    Let’s brainstorm a bit and maybe we can think of, say, five neighborhoods that might need some attention.

    • Replies: @res
    @anon

    That was an amazing example of dancing around the real problem.

    One thing that caught my eye was a dramatic change in motives (more other, less altercation) shown in Figures 19 and 19(A). It would be interesting to know if there are any trends in what constitutes "Other."

    Figures 23 and 23(A) show an increase in non-gang shootings.

    iSteve, you might want to take a look at Figure 37 showing street stops declining from over 50,000 in 10/15 to under 10,000 in 1/16. Oddly in NYC a similar decline coincided with a decrease in homicides.

    For the overall document:
    96 hits for gun
    0 hits for BLM
    5 hits for African - 1 even mentioned suspects! (surprise)

    Replies: @anon

  44. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Anonymous

    Haha, I was going to say Hume-incidence

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    That’s a Hume-ongusly Hume-orful pun. However, Steve can’t use it because it would be Hume-iliating to steal an iSteve-ism from a reader.

  45. “LOL”

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    https://twitter.com/warpfactor13/status/912513052603551744

  46. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Stan d Mute

    Anybody else tired of the right being labelled "Red?"

    It's like everything else the media trade in deceptions and distractions to "fight stereotypes."

    The left loves socialism. Is there shame in that? If not, Red is the correct color. Own it.

    Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Buzz Mohawk, @Tim Howells

    Interesting question. The red/blue thing used to be flipped with red (logically) associated with the left (i.e. Democrats) and blue the Republicans:

    This was flipped after the fall of the Soviet Union and the release of KGB files confirming our darkest suspicions. Then the corporate media decided that conservatives rather than liberals should have the red color association.

    On the other hand it’s been demonstrated that Olympic athletes win more when wearing red rather than blue uniforms.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0518_050518_redsports.html

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tim Howells

    Nah, the current red-blue terminology goes back to the 2000 election recount when everybody looked at Electoral College maps for 35 days. The majority of networks that year had Republicans as red, so that is how it stuck. Before that, the media flipped the colors of electoral college maps pretty regularly from election to election, but in 2000 people paid attention to colors for the first time.

    American parties don't have single colors the way European parties tend to do. Both parties have always used red, white, and blue as their colors, so network graphics designers would pick red or blue as they felt in the mood for election night maps. Since the introduction of color TV, white hasn't been much used. But red and blue are pretty equal colors. In 2000, a majority (but not all) of the main election coverage happened to have Republicans as red.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  47. @Tim Howells
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    Interesting question. The red/blue thing used to be flipped with red (logically) associated with the left (i.e. Democrats) and blue the Republicans:

    http://www.calnewsroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1980-Reagan-Landslide.png

    This was flipped after the fall of the Soviet Union and the release of KGB files confirming our darkest suspicions. Then the corporate media decided that conservatives rather than liberals should have the red color association.

    On the other hand it's been demonstrated that Olympic athletes win more when wearing red rather than blue uniforms.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0518_050518_redsports.html

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Nah, the current red-blue terminology goes back to the 2000 election recount when everybody looked at Electoral College maps for 35 days. The majority of networks that year had Republicans as red, so that is how it stuck. Before that, the media flipped the colors of electoral college maps pretty regularly from election to election, but in 2000 people paid attention to colors for the first time.

    American parties don’t have single colors the way European parties tend to do. Both parties have always used red, white, and blue as their colors, so network graphics designers would pick red or blue as they felt in the mood for election night maps. Since the introduction of color TV, white hasn’t been much used. But red and blue are pretty equal colors. In 2000, a majority (but not all) of the main election coverage happened to have Republicans as red.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    "... happened to have Republicans as red." I understand the part that these colors were flipped around some, as I distinctly remember 1992 showing R's blue. However, a friend and I have discussed this many a time, as we happened to have watched a number of elections together over many years (not all, but also kind of coincidental that we were in the same town during a lot of them). We (the experts!) both agree that the Lyin Press did not use Red for the democrats anymore as it reminded most people of Communism, so too obvious. The fact that the 2000 election dragged out to near Christmas is probably just an excuse of theirs to hold those colors.

    As to the R and D officeholders themselves, they should all just be coded, on their foreheads, a shade of purplish-red, as they are almost all the same and average left enough to make Jimmy Carter look like a member of the John Birch Society. John Kennedy, if he reappeared now under a different name, looking different, but with the same policies would be literally pre-72 George Wallace.

    We both have good political memories, so I could be wrong here, but there's probably no proving it.

  48. @eah
    "LOL"

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/912505934269820929

    Replies: @eah

  49. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    Causeophobia in the name of the good cause. Bad causes never have any effects!

  50. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dr. X


    The cause behind the increase in murders is clear: impulsive, low-intelligence, violent Negroes. QED. Simple as that.
     
    49er Eric Reid in a NYT op-ed:

    In early 2016, I began paying attention to reports about the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police. The posts on social media deeply disturbed me, but one in particular brought me to tears: the killing of Alton Sterling in my hometown Baton Rouge, La. This could have happened to any of my family members who still live in the area. […]

    I have too often seen our efforts belittled with statements like “He should have listened to the officer,” after watching an unarmed black person get shot [...]
     
    Don’t mind if I do:

    https://twitter.com/bmiles2000/status/911998056836370432

    Replies: @George

    Perp made the wrong choice

    Man awarded $1.3M after surveillance video contradicts deputies’ version of arrest
    Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e10_1506359088#A3sFUYqIm75mGZfY.99

    • Replies: @res
    @George

    I wonder if the deputies involved even got a reprimand.

    Let's see: http://kxan.com/investigative-story/caught-on-video-lawsuit-disputes-deputys-version-of-arrest/


    Sheriff Daniel Law tells KXAN he spoke to the deputies about how they could have handled the situation better.

    “I don’t know why they approached him, [knowing he might have a gun], but I wasn’t there,” he said.

    But he says in his view, nothing rose to the level of a suspension or firing. An email from the County's Assistant DA Jordan Powell confirms the deputy who wrote the incident report received no formal discipline.
     
    Looks like the answer is no (video and all!). Any of the law enforcement advocates here have any thoughts on this case? If you can't take care of the bad ones...

    Everyone knows what kind of penalties would await a non-LEO for filing similar false claims with the police, right?

    Imagine what would have happened without the video.
  51. @Ivy
    If a statistic falls in the forest and the media aren't there to hear it, did it really happen?

    Replies: @anon, @Pericles

    If a statistic is released on Friday afternoon, did it really happen?

  52. @whorefinder
    @Maya


    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?
     
    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a "Second Avenue" Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out.......

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes---so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you're rich, you can't afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also "Museum Mile", where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You'd think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can't get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you're in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. "Our transportation discriminates so we don't have to."

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @TomSchmidt, @prosa123, @Reg Cæsar

    They did build the “stubway” on 2nd avenue with stops at 72nd, 86th, and 96th. Very deep train, but it has quickly become popular.

    Maybe 100 years after tearing down the El they will have a replacement.

  53. If a cop in Chicago makes a stop of someone , he must complete a report called an ISR:

    Under state law and an agreement with the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois, Chicago officers now must report far more information about stops — including whether they frisked the person and if an arrest was made.

    Information to be completed on the ISR…School information, employment information, all vehicle information (even if no tickets are written), potentially three different narratives. Seventy-something boxes to complete…per person stopped.

    A retired federal judge will review the Chicago reports to ensure the stops are passing constitutional muster.

    The ACLU gets copies of every single ISR report

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2016/02/isr-to-change.html

    A warning to every cop in Chicago regarding use of force policy:

    Your fate is not your own;
    Nothing is ever closed any more – ever – even years later;
    You are tied to the political winds – extra heat = extra pain for you
    Even if you’re legally sound, you will be hammered administratively

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2017/09/fop-files-against-copa.html

  54. @Maya
    Okay. So how can we move them out to the suburbs faster? For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn't everyone be happier if the criminals didn't have access to convenient public transit? Downtown and Navy Pier would be safer. And the criminals wouldn't miss it if we moved them into newish, well maintained apartments with plush carpet and no pesky noise interfering with their day naps. Mundelein, Glenview, Vernon Hills, Arlington Heights, Buffalo Grove, Highland Park are all very good locations for resettlement. Rich people can keep their historic lakefront suburban towns, I suppose. I am not a monster.

    As a teen, I've never even been to the south side. Since coming back in my late 20s, with some parts of it gentrifying slowly (very slowly), I got to go to an underground indy techno fest and a street arts showcasing. Turns out there are historic neighborhoods on the south side that have a different look and feel and culinary tradition, ect.. How do thw criminals and their moms benefit from any of this? They don't. They will appreciate the beauty of the suburbs like I never could.

    Oh, and the west side is gorgeous! Seriously, the parks and majestic buildings (is that a synagogue, originally? Or a symphony?). West Humboldt Park is beautiful. As soon as the shootings stop there, and moms with prams stop being terrified to set foot on the ground, enough wealth could be generated to give all the criminals a small daily Uber allowance. Because they will not have public transit. Maybe to the mall and back. Again, I'm not a monster.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @George

    “Chicago has a pretty good subway system.” The huge attraction for Chicago is O’hare airport. cities are dividing into hubs and not hubs. This may be partly due to the GWOT is adding time to travel plans so previously acceptable if not desirable cities like Hartford are now backwaters.

    Why can’t other places reproduce the magic? Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful. Make sure fast reliable transportation to and from it to basically everywhere, as was done in Columbia with busses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

    Force congressional delegations to support the plan.

    I suspect that the ag lobby in Iowa will not be on board with anything not spelled ethanol. The real advantage a place like Chicago has over Boise is Chicago has exactly one path, corporate HQs and back offices. So the entire state of Illinois is more or less behind it.

    • Replies: @DFH
    @George


    Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful.
     
    It would be nice if there was some infrastructure pre-built for the white ethno-state

    Replies: @EdwardM

    , @Maya
    @George

    Okay. But people have to live somewhere too. And a certain percentage of the population also likes to do things, so a pimped out house with a strong internet connection won't do for everyone. Especially the everyone who are not yet paired off.

    And in any case, telecommuting might be the way of the future, but most employers don't offer it as an option yet. A large chunk of the work force in a large metro area often works in the city. It's nice to live closer to work AND have the option of taking the subway, so you could read or study a foreign language or something (foreign language education car audio pisses me off because I want to look at text too, when I need it!). And that would cut down on traffic for those who do have to commute from or to outside the city.

    Like it or not, Chicago already has a lot in place. In fact, relocate the low level criminals and jail the politicians, and this town becomes as attractive as any world class city. If you can get over that it doesn't pass a certain number in tens of millions. Which I understand is a thing for some people. My mother still calls it a village. Okay, so we'll never get rid of corrupt politicians. They are like herpes or AIDS. But just like AIDS, they can be worked around to achieve an overall pretty good quality of life. Like if all gun waiving criminals got sent to the far suburbs. Which is something that, apparently, can be done. I just wish it would happen faster.

  55. @Yak-15
    So long as low-end blacks are killing other low-end blacks...

    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing. But this is the choice they've made. Who am I to tell them otherwise?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @bomag, @Rod1963

    Blacks are given every opportunity in this country to excel. They have access to schools and jobs that most whites aren’t even allowed to try out for.

    Yet they manage to screw it all up, time and again. Does Detroit ring a bell for you?

    Now for Chicago, that is a odd case. See Chicago is a major hub for drug distribution across the U.S. and most of the shootings there are drug related. The cops do little because the political class and judges have shackled them. The only reason why is because they are involved in the drug trade themselves in some manner.

    No one wants to look too deeply into how far the connections go, not even the DOJ which has done nothing.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Rod1963

    It's almost as if Chicagoans were in charge of the federal government until earlier this year.

    , @Yak-15
    @Rod1963

    I disagree. Seems most disputes and murders are over petty slights and social meetings posts.

  56. @Rod1963
    @Yak-15

    Blacks are given every opportunity in this country to excel. They have access to schools and jobs that most whites aren't even allowed to try out for.

    Yet they manage to screw it all up, time and again. Does Detroit ring a bell for you?

    Now for Chicago, that is a odd case. See Chicago is a major hub for drug distribution across the U.S. and most of the shootings there are drug related. The cops do little because the political class and judges have shackled them. The only reason why is because they are involved in the drug trade themselves in some manner.

    No one wants to look too deeply into how far the connections go, not even the DOJ which has done nothing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Yak-15

    It’s almost as if Chicagoans were in charge of the federal government until earlier this year.

  57. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The homicide rate is just the eye-catcher. It goes all the way down the list such as a school system that is inimical to the interests of the white population, huge number of panhandling homeless, an overloaded criminal justice system, a large proportion of black males being ex-cons, perceptions of safety and so on. Any city that has a third of it’s population being black one can see how resources are siphoned off to deal with them. It’s a dead weight albatross. This will be the case until they go somewhere else.

  58. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Dr. X

    OT, but related to your comment, Dr. X: I only heard in 2 places (VDare blog being one of them) on-line out of many that the black immigrant "church-going" (at least once?) murderer in central Tenn. was stopped by a man who grabbed his gun out of his car. It makes you wonder if that church will encourage concealed weapons in the sanctuary from now on. They seem to always leave that part out in the "news". Maybe another one of these big coincidences.

    Found it, and it was a blog post by our friend John Derbyshire.

    From "Carpet-Bombing The Social Justice Narrative–Tennessee Church Shooting Is Dylann Roof In Reverse":


    • Samson’s murder spree is cut short by someone running to his vehicle to grab his gun and then exercise his Second Amendment right to hold Samson down until police arrived.
     

    Replies: @StillCARealist

    Churches are now doing Sheepdog Seminars, where they teach congregants how to deal with safety and threats to the church. I didn’t attend one, but my friends at a local large evangelical church tell me they have men (and women) in the church who are now regularly carrying and doing unofficial security at all events. Plenty of prison guards and off duty cops and military veterans attend these churches. They are now all being encouraged to be sheepdogs.

    Love it.

  59. Correlation does not imply causation, but that’s the way to bet.

  60. @Chrisnonymous
    @Yak-15

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources--health care, police, prison... I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Yak-15

    ” low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.”

    What do you suggest? They’ve made it pretty clear they don’t like being policed.

  61. @Eric Novak
    @Dr. X

    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois' concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois’ concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.

    So, are you presuming that the perpetrators of Chicago’s 4,600 shootings last year were CCW holders with legally purchased guns?

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @Dr. X

    Why yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Suggestion: don't eat the mushrooms growing on cow pies again.

  62. @Chrisnonymous
    Refusal to recognize cause and effect is calling out for an iSteve-y paradigmatic phrase like "Occam's Butterknife" or "Invade/Invite".

    We're waiting expectantly!

    Replies: @Elsewhere, @Anonymous, @bomag, @JeremiahJohnbalaya, @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere, @res

    Casuistry and Effect

    Courtesy of commenter Ivy earlier this month: https://www.unz.com/isteve/penn-law-school-profs-point-n-sputter-at-amy-wax/#comment-1990456

    Most relevant definition of casuistry: the use of clever but unsound reasoning, especially in relation to moral questions; sophistry

    Also see the beginning of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuistry

    The agreed meaning of “casuistry” is in flux. The term can be used either to describe a presumably acceptable form of reasoning or a form of reasoning that is inherently unsound and deceptive. Most or all philosophical dictionaries list the neutral sense as the first or only definition.[2][3][4] On the other hand, the Oxford English Dictionary states that the word “[o]ften (and perhaps originally) applied to a quibbling or evasive way of dealing with difficult cases of duty.” Its textual references, except for certain technical usages, are consistently pejorative (eg. “Casuistry destroys by Distinctions and Exceptions, all Morality, and effaces the essential Difference between Right and Wrong”).[5]

  63. @anon
    Wow. Just Wow.

    http://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/attachments/store/2435a5d4658e2ca19f4f225b810ce0dbdb9231cbdb8d702e784087469ee3/UChicagoCrimeLab+Gun+Violence+in+Chicago+2016.pdf

    It is all here. Wrapped up in a bow.

    They just can't bring themselves to say the words.


    Although African Americans comprise about one-third of the city’s population, they made up almost 80 percent of homicide victims in both 2015 and 2016.... In contrast, whites comprise about one-third of the city’s population but make up approximately 5 percent of its homicide victims.
     
    So can we say it is a 'Black' problem? 80% of it, anyway? That it has something to do with Black .... errr... .lives? This is just too confusing and difficult and the confounding variables.

    Around 80 percent of Chicago’s homicide victims in 2015 and 2016 had at least one prior arrest, almost 40 percent had a prior violent crime arrest, and almost 30 percent had a prior gun arrest. Nearly 40 percent of victims had more than 10 prior arrests, while the share with more than 20 prior arrests rose from 14 to 18 percent in 2016. The share of victims with a current or prior gang a liation as recorded by CPD was about the same in both years (53 and 54 percent).
     
    In my suburban county with a first world homicide rate per 100,000 -- between 1 and 2 .... someone with 10 priors and a gun arrest would have migrated to the state penitentiary for the rest of their natural life. So we don't seem to have this epidemic. And in Chicago, the Police Superintendent has complained endlessly that the courts aren't prosecuting gun offenses.

    In 2016, Chicago police made 24 percent fewer arrests than in 2015, accelerating the steady downward trend in arrests the city has seen in recent years. However, this overall reduction in arrests seems to have been driven largely by a decline in arrests for drug o enses, which fell by 44 percent from 2015 to 2016.

     

    That is fascinating. I wonder which neighborhoods were seeing this dramatic reduction in police activity? And why.

    Chicago police recorded over 80 percent fewer stops in January 2016 than they had in November 2015. This drop, from an average of over 50,000 stops per month in 2015 (through November) to approximately 10,000 stops per month starting in early 2016, began a few months before rates of gun violence in Chicago began to increase.
     
    We all know that it is possible to do smarter policing and target the problem areas -- so maybe they were doing exactly that. Did they target the 5 neighborhoods with 1/10th of the national increase in homicides when they reduced stops by 80%? I guess they ran out of money before they could look into this.

    What was the cause of this depolicing?


    What caused the decline is itself unclear. Several frequently-mentioned candidate explanations—the release of video footage showing the shooting by a CPD o cer of teenager Laquan McDonald, announcement of a U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation of CPD, implementation of an agreement between the City and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) concerning street stops, and a new state law regarding street stops—all happened essentially within a few weeks of each other in late 2015 and early 2016.24
     
    Maybe we could ask police. Or spend a couple of hours reading what the police write on the blog, Second City Cop. Or not.

    Our hope is that the data reported here may be helpful to the ongoing conversation in Chicago about how to improve the safety and well-being of all residents of our home city....
    Unfortunately, the available data cannot at this time point definitively to what caused the increase in gun violence in Chicago in 2016.

     

    Let's brainstorm a bit and maybe we can think of, say, five neighborhoods that might need some attention.

    Replies: @res

    That was an amazing example of dancing around the real problem.

    One thing that caught my eye was a dramatic change in motives (more other, less altercation) shown in Figures 19 and 19(A). It would be interesting to know if there are any trends in what constitutes “Other.”

    Figures 23 and 23(A) show an increase in non-gang shootings.

    iSteve, you might want to take a look at Figure 37 showing street stops declining from over 50,000 in 10/15 to under 10,000 in 1/16. Oddly in NYC a similar decline coincided with a decrease in homicides.

    For the overall document:
    96 hits for gun
    0 hits for BLM
    5 hits for African – 1 even mentioned suspects! (surprise)

    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    Prior to BLM/Freddie Gray, Baltimore was showing a very hard won decrease in homicides AS WELL AS a decrease in arrests. All crime data tends to show extreme clustering. An example is Milwaukee, where the police have been making traffic stops without issuing tickets. It gives them most of the benefit without pissing off the neighborhood.

    In NYC, eliminating stop and frisk is like taking a 7 iron out of the bag of a pro golfer. The Chicago limitations were like removing all the irons and wedges from the bag.

    New York is a special case because it is the financial capital of the world. Or maybe co capital with London. And wealthy. Chicago will never be Baltimore because it is capital of flyover country. But the 5 magic neighborhoods? They have

    Over time, quantitive, data driven policing should produce more with less -- less being stops, arrests, etc. Its all about focusing on the right stuff.

    The overall quality of the report is impressive. The data, the tables, examination (and rejection) of alternatives like spending on the poor, city schools, the weather.

    They do everything but blurt it out. I don't blame them. There is no upside for them to go further, but they are right on the edge.

  64. @Dr. X
    @Eric Novak


    How clueless are you? As every NRA member knows, Illinois’ concealed carry law went into effect in Feb., 2014. Chicago cops who are my neighbors teach the class at a local city college.
     
    So, are you presuming that the perpetrators of Chicago's 4,600 shootings last year were CCW holders with legally purchased guns?

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    Why yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Suggestion: don’t eat the mushrooms growing on cow pies again.

  65. What’s driving the increases in violence in the affected cities isn’t clear. Researchers in Chicago have struggled to find any direct causal factors behind the jump in gun violence there. Shootings and murders noticeably rose around the time that the Chicago Police Department released a video of officers killing 17-year-old Laquan McDonald in November 2015, but it’s uncertain if a subsequent drop in police street searches played a role. (Whether it would is also debatable: New York City defied predictions after its crime levels continued to drop after it all but abandoned stop-and-frisk in 2011.) And what exactly causes crime to rise and fall is far from certain: Scholars have plenty of theories but no conclusive explanations for the widespread crime decline of the 1990s.

    I wonder if criminologists get embarrassed by the fact that their supposed discipline has become a deliberately obscurantist and anti-intellectual blurb-factory while cops with no degree and blowhard politicians generally find workable answers on their own. “The causes aren’t clear, we really don’t know anything despite decades worth of data, and the factors are complex.”

  66. @George
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Perp made the wrong choice

    Man awarded $1.3M after surveillance video contradicts deputies’ version of arrest
    Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e10_1506359088#A3sFUYqIm75mGZfY.99

    Replies: @res

    I wonder if the deputies involved even got a reprimand.

    Let’s see: http://kxan.com/investigative-story/caught-on-video-lawsuit-disputes-deputys-version-of-arrest/

    Sheriff Daniel Law tells KXAN he spoke to the deputies about how they could have handled the situation better.

    “I don’t know why they approached him, [knowing he might have a gun], but I wasn’t there,” he said.

    But he says in his view, nothing rose to the level of a suspension or firing. An email from the County’s Assistant DA Jordan Powell confirms the deputy who wrote the incident report received no formal discipline.

    Looks like the answer is no (video and all!). Any of the law enforcement advocates here have any thoughts on this case? If you can’t take care of the bad ones…

    Everyone knows what kind of penalties would await a non-LEO for filing similar false claims with the police, right?

    Imagine what would have happened without the video.

  67. Actually, Chicago gun laws are still pretty crappy. We have “assault rifle” bans, bans on large capacity mags (> 15 rds), tax PER round of ammo (remember that includes .22LR), special $25 tax on firearms, all applicable to the People’s Republic of Crook County, an official Preckwinkle Fiefdom. Cabelas is definitely affected.

    A very smart businessman would open a gun shop accessible via PACE bus (so that people can use their Ventra cards) in an adjacent county (DuPage County), use opaque plastic bags taped shut, to circumvent the inevitable cosmopolitan harassment by police and regulations prohibiting the transport of said items, advertise HiCap mags and ARs in Chicago, and tell Chicago/Crook County to go fish.

    Your conceal carry permit does NOT allow you to carry on the CTA trains and buses. Shooting Black thugs on the CTA means you are terminating VerySmartBrothas, the voting backbone of the Democrat party.

    Not going to change anytime soon as The Force is strong with the Darkside.

  68. @whorefinder
    @Maya


    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?
     
    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a "Second Avenue" Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out.......

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes---so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you're rich, you can't afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also "Museum Mile", where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You'd think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can't get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you're in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. "Our transportation discriminates so we don't have to."

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @TomSchmidt, @prosa123, @Reg Cæsar

    “In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood.”

    Which makes me wonder how the hipsters and trust funders and other trendoids in Williamsburg will manage. About a year from now the L train, which serves the area, will shut down for at least a year (which of course means much longer) for tunnel repairs. None of the alternative routes into Manhattan are remotely as fast.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @prosa123

    The shut down of the L, I believe, is deliberate to drive the ethnics out from further back on the line. Gentrification must spread out further in hip Brooklyn.

    The L train goes through much of Brooklyn, and for many is the ONLY subway line they can use to get into Manhattan. The far-reaches of the L line are heavy immigrant enclaves who come into the city to work in the kitchens, or as custodians, or in manual labor such as construction.The vast crowding the L train has experienced in recent years still hasn't shaken those stubborn poor folks from their neighborhoods---because many of them get on so early in the train ride to Manhattan that they can get seats, while the hipsters who get on in closer-to-Manhattan Williamsburg can barely get into the crowded cars.

    Those distant neighborhoods are quite pleasant when crime is down, and many of which have small parks with memorials to WWI, WW2, or even the Revolution---meaning they were made by early whites, and thus the neighborhood has "good bones." I lived in one of them, and was the only white around, but the neighborhood was quite safe because the folks there worked all day and went to church and raised their kids right. And when I walked the neighborhood, even though it was poor and dilapidated, and even though I'm no real estate guy, even I could see the potential for such a place, and how it had probably once been far nicer than it was then.

    Most of the folks at the back end of the line live not just pay check to paycheck, but are heavily in debt on their paychecks to some very sketchy folks---old fashioned loan sharks, payday lenders, immigrant smugglers, and the like. A shut down like this will make living in the city unaffordable for them, as they will not be able to get to work without spending a fortune on cabs (which they don't have) or transferring to three buses two hours earlier than they get up now. They will light out for places that either have good transport into the city or else take jobs in those places.

    Then when the L train is finally fixed---and push that timeline out to 5 years, not just 1, this is a modern city construction project with all its "unexpected" delays----the old distant neighborhoods will be so abandoned that developers can steal them for a song and revamp them, just in time for a subway that works properly and quickly. It'll be the New Williamsburg by then, so long as crime in NYC is kept down.

    Replies: @prosa123, @Anonymous

  69. @prosa123
    @whorefinder

    "In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood."

    Which makes me wonder how the hipsters and trust funders and other trendoids in Williamsburg will manage. About a year from now the L train, which serves the area, will shut down for at least a year (which of course means much longer) for tunnel repairs. None of the alternative routes into Manhattan are remotely as fast.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    The shut down of the L, I believe, is deliberate to drive the ethnics out from further back on the line. Gentrification must spread out further in hip Brooklyn.

    The L train goes through much of Brooklyn, and for many is the ONLY subway line they can use to get into Manhattan. The far-reaches of the L line are heavy immigrant enclaves who come into the city to work in the kitchens, or as custodians, or in manual labor such as construction.The vast crowding the L train has experienced in recent years still hasn’t shaken those stubborn poor folks from their neighborhoods—because many of them get on so early in the train ride to Manhattan that they can get seats, while the hipsters who get on in closer-to-Manhattan Williamsburg can barely get into the crowded cars.

    Those distant neighborhoods are quite pleasant when crime is down, and many of which have small parks with memorials to WWI, WW2, or even the Revolution—meaning they were made by early whites, and thus the neighborhood has “good bones.” I lived in one of them, and was the only white around, but the neighborhood was quite safe because the folks there worked all day and went to church and raised their kids right. And when I walked the neighborhood, even though it was poor and dilapidated, and even though I’m no real estate guy, even I could see the potential for such a place, and how it had probably once been far nicer than it was then.

    Most of the folks at the back end of the line live not just pay check to paycheck, but are heavily in debt on their paychecks to some very sketchy folks—old fashioned loan sharks, payday lenders, immigrant smugglers, and the like. A shut down like this will make living in the city unaffordable for them, as they will not be able to get to work without spending a fortune on cabs (which they don’t have) or transferring to three buses two hours earlier than they get up now. They will light out for places that either have good transport into the city or else take jobs in those places.

    Then when the L train is finally fixed—and push that timeline out to 5 years, not just 1, this is a modern city construction project with all its “unexpected” delays—-the old distant neighborhoods will be so abandoned that developers can steal them for a song and revamp them, just in time for a subway that works properly and quickly. It’ll be the New Williamsburg by then, so long as crime in NYC is kept down.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @whorefinder

    Most of the riders from the furthest reaches of the L train such as Canarsie will be okay. They'll be able to transfer to other lines to get into Manhattan fairly easily: the A/C/J at Broadway Junction, the M at Myrtle, and (with an unlimited ride Metrocard) the 3 at Livonia. In contrast, the hipsters in Brooklyn will be stuck with the relatively useless G.

    , @Anonymous
    @whorefinder

    This is exactly right. My brothers in Brooklyn real estate. The L shut down has spiked property prices along the JMZ line and into soon to be former vibrant areas of bed-sty full of brown stones. The ethnic cleansing of NYC marches on. Problem is the projects. Which stand like giant immovable sincs of evil spreading destruction all around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder

  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Tim Howells

    Nah, the current red-blue terminology goes back to the 2000 election recount when everybody looked at Electoral College maps for 35 days. The majority of networks that year had Republicans as red, so that is how it stuck. Before that, the media flipped the colors of electoral college maps pretty regularly from election to election, but in 2000 people paid attention to colors for the first time.

    American parties don't have single colors the way European parties tend to do. Both parties have always used red, white, and blue as their colors, so network graphics designers would pick red or blue as they felt in the mood for election night maps. Since the introduction of color TV, white hasn't been much used. But red and blue are pretty equal colors. In 2000, a majority (but not all) of the main election coverage happened to have Republicans as red.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    “… happened to have Republicans as red.” I understand the part that these colors were flipped around some, as I distinctly remember 1992 showing R’s blue. However, a friend and I have discussed this many a time, as we happened to have watched a number of elections together over many years (not all, but also kind of coincidental that we were in the same town during a lot of them). We (the experts!) both agree that the Lyin Press did not use Red for the democrats anymore as it reminded most people of Communism, so too obvious. The fact that the 2000 election dragged out to near Christmas is probably just an excuse of theirs to hold those colors.

    As to the R and D officeholders themselves, they should all just be coded, on their foreheads, a shade of purplish-red, as they are almost all the same and average left enough to make Jimmy Carter look like a member of the John Birch Society. John Kennedy, if he reappeared now under a different name, looking different, but with the same policies would be literally pre-72 George Wallace.

    We both have good political memories, so I could be wrong here, but there’s probably no proving it.

  71. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    @anon

    That was an amazing example of dancing around the real problem.

    One thing that caught my eye was a dramatic change in motives (more other, less altercation) shown in Figures 19 and 19(A). It would be interesting to know if there are any trends in what constitutes "Other."

    Figures 23 and 23(A) show an increase in non-gang shootings.

    iSteve, you might want to take a look at Figure 37 showing street stops declining from over 50,000 in 10/15 to under 10,000 in 1/16. Oddly in NYC a similar decline coincided with a decrease in homicides.

    For the overall document:
    96 hits for gun
    0 hits for BLM
    5 hits for African - 1 even mentioned suspects! (surprise)

    Replies: @anon

    Prior to BLM/Freddie Gray, Baltimore was showing a very hard won decrease in homicides AS WELL AS a decrease in arrests. All crime data tends to show extreme clustering. An example is Milwaukee, where the police have been making traffic stops without issuing tickets. It gives them most of the benefit without pissing off the neighborhood.

    In NYC, eliminating stop and frisk is like taking a 7 iron out of the bag of a pro golfer. The Chicago limitations were like removing all the irons and wedges from the bag.

    New York is a special case because it is the financial capital of the world. Or maybe co capital with London. And wealthy. Chicago will never be Baltimore because it is capital of flyover country. But the 5 magic neighborhoods? They have

    Over time, quantitive, data driven policing should produce more with less — less being stops, arrests, etc. Its all about focusing on the right stuff.

    The overall quality of the report is impressive. The data, the tables, examination (and rejection) of alternatives like spending on the poor, city schools, the weather.

    They do everything but blurt it out. I don’t blame them. There is no upside for them to go further, but they are right on the edge.

  72. @Chrisnonymous
    @Yak-15

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources--health care, police, prison... I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Yak-15

    Since 1965, we’ve set fire to at least a trillion dollars and twisted our society and our Constitution into an unrecognizable mess, all for the sake of treating 13% of our population like Tiffany glass sculptures.

    Result? What you see around you every day.

  73. @George
    @Maya

    "Chicago has a pretty good subway system." The huge attraction for Chicago is O'hare airport. cities are dividing into hubs and not hubs. This may be partly due to the GWOT is adding time to travel plans so previously acceptable if not desirable cities like Hartford are now backwaters.

    Why can't other places reproduce the magic? Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful. Make sure fast reliable transportation to and from it to basically everywhere, as was done in Columbia with busses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

    Force congressional delegations to support the plan.

    I suspect that the ag lobby in Iowa will not be on board with anything not spelled ethanol. The real advantage a place like Chicago has over Boise is Chicago has exactly one path, corporate HQs and back offices. So the entire state of Illinois is more or less behind it.

    Replies: @DFH, @Maya

    Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful.

    It would be nice if there was some infrastructure pre-built for the white ethno-state

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @DFH

    How about the abandoned island of Barbuda?

    https://rightwise.org/2017/09/16/win-win-how-about-creating-that-libertarian-paradise-in-barbuda/

    I assume that even before the hurricane, the infrastructure was not U.S.-level, but with something to build upon, enterprising whites could easily make it livable.

  74. @Whiskey
    Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that's the law in a year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Jack Hanson, @Lagertha

    Problem: Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that’s the law in a year.

    Solution: Blow up your TV.

    Questions: Who in the hell is Popovich? Why in the hell should I care who Popovich is?

  75. @Whiskey
    Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that's the law in a year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Jack Hanson, @Lagertha

    Is this one of these post-modern ironic humor things that I’m just too linear to “get”?

    The outcome is more likely to be an exact 180 from what you prophesy. The bread-and-circuses machine is the one control device that’s kept the Deplorables quiescent year after year. Trump observed the NFL not just shooting itself in the foot, but firing Barrett rounds up and down both its legs, and he is helping the process along. Once Trump helps his Middle American constituency realize that their corporate masters hate, hate, hate them and everything they hold dear, it’s the opening wedge to very interesting times indeed.

    Used to really like your blog. You should get the old Whiskey’s Place going again.

  76. @MBlanc46
    @Flip

    The Supreme Court overturned the Chicago gun control law. The case was initiated by a black man.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    MBlanc, record numbers of black women are applying for and receiving Conceal/carry pistol permits in Chicago.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Buffalo Joe

    Can't blame them.

  77. @Chrisnonymous
    @Yak-15

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources--health care, police, prison... I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Yak-15

    Chris, the U of Chicago and their medical school did research that states that the average cost of a shooting, fatal or non fatal, is $85,000. Just google University of Chicago study says cost of shooting is $85. Pretty thorough study.

  78. @Whiskey
    Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that's the law in a year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Jack Hanson, @Lagertha

    Whiskey, to true to laugh.

  79. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I sat down, turned on the toob and thought "oh, my childhood love, America's Team, The Dallas Cowboys are playing, its the 4th quarter of a close game, i'll just watch a bit...."

    Five minutes later i read that the entire team, along with that a$$h0le Jones, knelt.

    NFL is officially dead to me.

    Replies: @Wally, @Buffalo Joe

    Jeremiah, I made a determination not to watch the game. The fact that Jon Gruden would probably wade in on the protest made my decision easier.

  80. The spike in shooting murders garners the headlines, but the numbers of shooting victims, who survive has also increased dramatically. Wounds that result in total or partial paralysis, amputations, bowel resectioning, blindness, deafness, etc. result in enormous drains on hospital and social service resources.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not true, according to an in-depth article on Baltimore homicides in the Baltimore Sun:


    In Baltimore, one of every three people struck by gunfire dies, up from one death in every four shootings the previous decade. It ranks as one of the most lethal of America's largest cities, according to a Baltimore Sun analysis. Two other cities — Washington and New Orleans — shared the brutal distinction of one in three shootings ending in a homicide in 2015. Like Baltimore, several cities have seen the death grip tighten. In Chicago, one in 10 people died after being shot in 2000; now one in six perishes. Last year, the odds for gunshot victims worsened in at least 10 of the nation's largest cities, The Sun found.
     
    http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/shoot-to-kill/

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  81. @Wally
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "Cleaner and friendlier than New York ... . "

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar, @Perspective

    A New Yorker friend of mine says, “I love New York when it rains. It makes its own gravy.”

  82. As David Hume said, how can we be sure the rock falls to the ground because you released it? Maybe it was just a big coincidence? Who really knows?

    It fell because Allah willed it so!

  83. @Wally
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "Cleaner and friendlier than New York ... . "

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar, @Perspective

    “Cleaner and friendlier than New York … . ”

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    The Economist or the Financial Times (or perhaps both) reported a few years ago on a study that showed New York to be the most polite of all the cities surveyed. However, no other US city was included.

  84. @Neil Templeton
    @Stan d Mute

    Red is Where the Roys are.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Red is Where the Roys are.

    As opposed to the Leroys?

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some Leroys as well, so long as they have enough old schooling to carry the torch.

  85. @Stan d Mute
    @Dr. X


    I live in a lily-white area in which a significant number of white people are heavily armed. Aside from an occasional DUI or domestic, crime is almost non-existent and violent crime even less so.
     
    Isn’t this just a perfect descriptor of this map?

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg/1280px-2016nationwidecountymapshadedbyvoteshare.svg.png

    Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Neil Templeton, @Reg Cæsar

    They lost the Driftless on this map. Is the Iron Range next?

    When Vermont and the Berkshires go, then the entire country, save college counties, will have racialized partisanship.

  86. @whorefinder
    @Maya


    For an American city, Chicago has a pretty good subway system. Too bad half of it is unusable. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the criminals didn’t have access to convenient public transit?
     
    In New York City, the Upper East Side of Manhattan was long where the old money elite lived. The Vanderbilts, the Fricks, the Rockefellers, etc. In the early 20th Century much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways. Then those were torn down with the promise in the 1930s of a "Second Avenue" Subway (second avenue running through the neighborhood all the way to down town).

    Yet here it is in 2017 and no Second Avenue Subway has been completed. Occasionally, they half-heartedly built another block of it, but then the money mysteriously runs out and they have to wait another 10-15 years for the cash to come. And now the old parts (the parts built in the 30s, 40s, and 50s) are falling apart, and so need to be completely rebuilt, requiring more money and time that always runs out.......

    This makes it difficult to go to the Upper East Side without a cab. The only subway line serving it is the 4-5-6 line, which gets extremely crowded during rush hour commutes---so crowded, in fact, that most commuters either move out of the neighborhood where the subways are more numerous or else start earning enough money to be driven everywhere. So, basically, unless you're rich, you can't afford to regularly commute into/out the area.

    And then people wonder why the Second Avenue Subway never gets built.

    The Upper East Side, btw, is also "Museum Mile", where many of the famous NYC museums are (The Met, the Frick, the Guggenheim, etc.). You'd think that would spur some subway construction, but no: the ultra-rich like their tony neighborhood uninvaded by the hoi polloi.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can't get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you're in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Except the Upper East Side, where lack of subway access is a feature, not a bug. "Our transportation discriminates so we don't have to."

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @TomSchmidt, @prosa123, @Reg Cæsar

    …much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways

    Oxymoron of the week. Unless you meant sandwich shops.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood.

    Opponents of the white rail– excuse me, light rail– transit system in the Twin Cities insisted it would attract and facilitate criminals.

    But, as the late dyed-in-the-wool right-winger Paul Weyrich pointed out, it can also bring a stream of white folks back into the city. They hate the bus, but like the train.

    Whether this is worth the outrageous subsidy is a valid question, but one which can also be applied to the freeways that lured white folks out to the exurbs.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Reg Cæsar

    No, what brings white folks back to the cities is a healthy reduction in crime. If your city is criminally inclined, they will stay away. Furthermore, if you fill your city with ethnics who are not white, fewer white people will stream in because they will feel hostility from the locals, who like their own ethnicity more than whites.

    So filling up the Twin Cities with blacks and Somalis was a doubly bad idea. No kind of transport will fix that.

    And that's before we get to how light rail is awful and the worst of both worlds --an inefficient, above-ground subway that blocks traffic and is still subject to the weather.

    In any major city---especially one that has snow--- you should ALWAYS build a subway. I cannot understand the stupidity of people who support a light rail in Minnesota; do you really think waiting outside/having doors open into the Minnesota winter, or think that a heavy snow won't hurt the train line from running? Ask Boston, who's 100+ year old streetcars get bogged down in the winter every time they get a bad storm.

    And they block up traffic. And often times diversity jumps into them without paying and that leads to decreased civic morale. And they get dirty pretty quick when diversity is around, due to less civic involvement.

    Light rail is such a huckster deal that I swear there's gotta be one company going from town to town selling it to idiot hipsters and graft-loving pols: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM

  87. @George
    @Maya

    "Chicago has a pretty good subway system." The huge attraction for Chicago is O'hare airport. cities are dividing into hubs and not hubs. This may be partly due to the GWOT is adding time to travel plans so previously acceptable if not desirable cities like Hartford are now backwaters.

    Why can't other places reproduce the magic? Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful. Make sure fast reliable transportation to and from it to basically everywhere, as was done in Columbia with busses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

    Force congressional delegations to support the plan.

    I suspect that the ag lobby in Iowa will not be on board with anything not spelled ethanol. The real advantage a place like Chicago has over Boise is Chicago has exactly one path, corporate HQs and back offices. So the entire state of Illinois is more or less behind it.

    Replies: @DFH, @Maya

    Okay. But people have to live somewhere too. And a certain percentage of the population also likes to do things, so a pimped out house with a strong internet connection won’t do for everyone. Especially the everyone who are not yet paired off.

    And in any case, telecommuting might be the way of the future, but most employers don’t offer it as an option yet. A large chunk of the work force in a large metro area often works in the city. It’s nice to live closer to work AND have the option of taking the subway, so you could read or study a foreign language or something (foreign language education car audio pisses me off because I want to look at text too, when I need it!). And that would cut down on traffic for those who do have to commute from or to outside the city.

    Like it or not, Chicago already has a lot in place. In fact, relocate the low level criminals and jail the politicians, and this town becomes as attractive as any world class city. If you can get over that it doesn’t pass a certain number in tens of millions. Which I understand is a thing for some people. My mother still calls it a village. Okay, so we’ll never get rid of corrupt politicians. They are like herpes or AIDS. But just like AIDS, they can be worked around to achieve an overall pretty good quality of life. Like if all gun waiving criminals got sent to the far suburbs. Which is something that, apparently, can be done. I just wish it would happen faster.

  88. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Having been to Chicago less than a month ago, I was actually quite impressed. Cleaner and friendlier than New York, and food to die for. And I felt quite safe walking around at night. That said, I never ventured farther south than Soldier Field, no farther north than Old Town, and no farther west than the first bend in the Chicago River. What surprised me is how few black people I saw. In fact, I saw a lot more Mexicans, and they were more like the amicable Texas Mexicans than the surly California ones. Reading up more on the demographics of Chicago after my trip, I figured the reason for the few number of black peoples I saw; Chicago is in all likelihood the most segregated city in the nation. There are some districts in Chicago that are 99% black, and several suburbs that are less than 1% black. Contrast this with my home town of Atlanta in the intolerant South. Even the whitest suburbs there are at least 10% black.

    Replies: @Wally, @Anon87

    I was just there as well. Downtown is still a great place to visit, but it wears thin. You won’t get shot, but bums can ruin your time with their aggressive panhandling.

  89. OT, but about crime-anyone in LA know the status of the racist graffitti at Lebron James’ home? 4 months, no video, not pictures, no arrests, nothing. The most famous athlete in the world has a security system;where are the images?

    Or is it like so much of the usual raycess hoax nonsense. Except that the LAPD is scared to death to lock up James or his employees or family for making this up.

  90. @bomag
    @Yak-15


    I would actually prefer that these people were enabled a chance at a better outcome through stricter policing.
     
    Yeah, we could start by policing our borders; then move on to debilitating drugs; the moral code; etc.

    But as we roar into the brave, new future of machines and winner-take-all economics, society's shackles become lighter so the populace can have more distractions.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    I wish society would lighten up MY shackles just a skosh. I’ve got some new distractions I’d like to try out.

    Oh, yeah.

  91. @Reg Cæsar
    @whorefinder


    ...much of it was served by above-ground elevated subways
     
    Oxymoron of the week. Unless you meant sandwich shops.

    In NYC, you can judge most neighborhoods by subway access: the more good subways that serve an area, the more popular and attractive the area is, while if you can’t get a subway in a certain neighborhood or your subway runs infrequently and slowly, you’re in an extremely crappy neighborhood.
     
    Opponents of the white rail-- excuse me, light rail-- transit system in the Twin Cities insisted it would attract and facilitate criminals.

    But, as the late dyed-in-the-wool right-winger Paul Weyrich pointed out, it can also bring a stream of white folks back into the city. They hate the bus, but like the train.

    Whether this is worth the outrageous subsidy is a valid question, but one which can also be applied to the freeways that lured white folks out to the exurbs.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    No, what brings white folks back to the cities is a healthy reduction in crime. If your city is criminally inclined, they will stay away. Furthermore, if you fill your city with ethnics who are not white, fewer white people will stream in because they will feel hostility from the locals, who like their own ethnicity more than whites.

    So filling up the Twin Cities with blacks and Somalis was a doubly bad idea. No kind of transport will fix that.

    And that’s before we get to how light rail is awful and the worst of both worlds –an inefficient, above-ground subway that blocks traffic and is still subject to the weather.

    In any major city—especially one that has snow— you should ALWAYS build a subway. I cannot understand the stupidity of people who support a light rail in Minnesota; do you really think waiting outside/having doors open into the Minnesota winter, or think that a heavy snow won’t hurt the train line from running? Ask Boston, who’s 100+ year old streetcars get bogged down in the winter every time they get a bad storm.

    And they block up traffic. And often times diversity jumps into them without paying and that leads to decreased civic morale. And they get dirty pretty quick when diversity is around, due to less civic involvement.

    Light rail is such a huckster deal that I swear there’s gotta be one company going from town to town selling it to idiot hipsters and graft-loving pols:

  92. @Wally
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    "Cleaner and friendlier than New York ... . "

    What kind of comparison is that?

    Just about every city is cleaner and friendlier than NYC.
    Yuck.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Reg Cæsar, @Perspective

    I found the people in NYC to be quite friendly and engaging – for better and worse. Much prefer that to the very indifferent and pretentious Torontonians.

  93. @Buffalo Joe
    The spike in shooting murders garners the headlines, but the numbers of shooting victims, who survive has also increased dramatically. Wounds that result in total or partial paralysis, amputations, bowel resectioning, blindness, deafness, etc. result in enormous drains on hospital and social service resources.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Not true, according to an in-depth article on Baltimore homicides in the Baltimore Sun:

    In Baltimore, one of every three people struck by gunfire dies, up from one death in every four shootings the previous decade. It ranks as one of the most lethal of America’s largest cities, according to a Baltimore Sun analysis. Two other cities — Washington and New Orleans — shared the brutal distinction of one in three shootings ending in a homicide in 2015. Like Baltimore, several cities have seen the death grip tighten. In Chicago, one in 10 people died after being shot in 2000; now one in six perishes. Last year, the odds for gunshot victims worsened in at least 10 of the nation’s largest cities, The Sun found.

    http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/shoot-to-kill/

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Harry Baldwin

    Harry, I said the death rate garners the headlines. The number of maimed is still significant. In Buffalo a 10 year old "survives" a bullet through his brain. That is a life time death sentence. But we're good.

  94. @Rod1963
    @Yak-15

    Blacks are given every opportunity in this country to excel. They have access to schools and jobs that most whites aren't even allowed to try out for.

    Yet they manage to screw it all up, time and again. Does Detroit ring a bell for you?

    Now for Chicago, that is a odd case. See Chicago is a major hub for drug distribution across the U.S. and most of the shootings there are drug related. The cops do little because the political class and judges have shackled them. The only reason why is because they are involved in the drug trade themselves in some manner.

    No one wants to look too deeply into how far the connections go, not even the DOJ which has done nothing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Yak-15

    I disagree. Seems most disputes and murders are over petty slights and social meetings posts.

  95. @Chrisnonymous
    @Yak-15

    Yeah, but every murder is a huge drain on resources--health care, police, prison... I wonder what the total cost of a murder is. In the 10s of thousands of dollars? High tens of?

    Not to mention, the low-end blacks are people and our compatriots too. We should be helping them out within reason.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Yak-15

    Our friend and fellow traveler Buffalo Joe cites a study that estimates each shooting at $85,000 in total costs.

    Though callous to ask, do these deaths save us money over the long term? Kids, welfare, education waste, etc.

  96. @Buffalo Joe
    @MBlanc46

    MBlanc, record numbers of black women are applying for and receiving Conceal/carry pistol permits in Chicago.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Can’t blame them.

  97. @Reg Cæsar
    @Neil Templeton


    Red is Where the Roys are.
     
    As opposed to the Leroys?

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    Some Leroys as well, so long as they have enough old schooling to carry the torch.

  98. @whorefinder
    @prosa123

    The shut down of the L, I believe, is deliberate to drive the ethnics out from further back on the line. Gentrification must spread out further in hip Brooklyn.

    The L train goes through much of Brooklyn, and for many is the ONLY subway line they can use to get into Manhattan. The far-reaches of the L line are heavy immigrant enclaves who come into the city to work in the kitchens, or as custodians, or in manual labor such as construction.The vast crowding the L train has experienced in recent years still hasn't shaken those stubborn poor folks from their neighborhoods---because many of them get on so early in the train ride to Manhattan that they can get seats, while the hipsters who get on in closer-to-Manhattan Williamsburg can barely get into the crowded cars.

    Those distant neighborhoods are quite pleasant when crime is down, and many of which have small parks with memorials to WWI, WW2, or even the Revolution---meaning they were made by early whites, and thus the neighborhood has "good bones." I lived in one of them, and was the only white around, but the neighborhood was quite safe because the folks there worked all day and went to church and raised their kids right. And when I walked the neighborhood, even though it was poor and dilapidated, and even though I'm no real estate guy, even I could see the potential for such a place, and how it had probably once been far nicer than it was then.

    Most of the folks at the back end of the line live not just pay check to paycheck, but are heavily in debt on their paychecks to some very sketchy folks---old fashioned loan sharks, payday lenders, immigrant smugglers, and the like. A shut down like this will make living in the city unaffordable for them, as they will not be able to get to work without spending a fortune on cabs (which they don't have) or transferring to three buses two hours earlier than they get up now. They will light out for places that either have good transport into the city or else take jobs in those places.

    Then when the L train is finally fixed---and push that timeline out to 5 years, not just 1, this is a modern city construction project with all its "unexpected" delays----the old distant neighborhoods will be so abandoned that developers can steal them for a song and revamp them, just in time for a subway that works properly and quickly. It'll be the New Williamsburg by then, so long as crime in NYC is kept down.

    Replies: @prosa123, @Anonymous

    Most of the riders from the furthest reaches of the L train such as Canarsie will be okay. They’ll be able to transfer to other lines to get into Manhattan fairly easily: the A/C/J at Broadway Junction, the M at Myrtle, and (with an unlimited ride Metrocard) the 3 at Livonia. In contrast, the hipsters in Brooklyn will be stuck with the relatively useless G.

  99. @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Nah. I don't know what the future holds, but right now, a bunch of north side and near north west neighborhoods are nothing short of picturesque. Bricktown and Ravenswood are just two examples of neighborhoods that look like idyllic places to grow up, if you like small historic towns, bustling with creative, peaceful productivity, within a big city. And Logan Square and Wicker Park are just two examples of where a person who deems himself quirky, alternative or even risque might enjoy spending time, without much actual risk. Much of West Town looks like a set decorator's attractive version of "gritty" part of town. You know, with industrial coffee shops and used guitar stores, and Ukrainian pastries being sold by hard Ukrainian women to men with 5 o'clock shadows at noon on Sundays.

    Young people everywhere. Young families everywhere. Joggers. Rescue mutts.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    you lost me at “mutts.” Sorry – enjoy the decline.

    • Replies: @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Is it the whole, "Boo hoo women adopt pets rather than have some sour nerd's baby that he wouldn't love more than his computer games anyway"?

    Sorry. Doesn't hold true. Sure, the elderly often acquire pets for companionship, and there is more elderly women than men.

    Otherwise, I've volunteered at several animal shelters, and most adopters are families or young couples. I grew up with a dog and a cat. My parents, now empty nesters, still have a dog and a cat, like they have for almost 30 years. My husband and I got our dog as soon as we got married because I was dying to have one. Then, my dude wanted a cat. Didn't stop us from having kids. In fact, most of my friends with kids also have pets. It's almost as if people who like creating bonds and caring for others, and who aren't too old to start new relationships, do just that! And bitter people who are too unpleasant and lazy to find intimacy will blame anything for their loneliness.

    And decline is not a sure thing, from where I'm sitting. Things are very salvageable still. In any case, there's a lot left to enjoy.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  100. @Lagertha
    @Maya

    you lost me at "mutts." Sorry - enjoy the decline.

    Replies: @Maya

    Is it the whole, “Boo hoo women adopt pets rather than have some sour nerd’s baby that he wouldn’t love more than his computer games anyway”?

    Sorry. Doesn’t hold true. Sure, the elderly often acquire pets for companionship, and there is more elderly women than men.

    Otherwise, I’ve volunteered at several animal shelters, and most adopters are families or young couples. I grew up with a dog and a cat. My parents, now empty nesters, still have a dog and a cat, like they have for almost 30 years. My husband and I got our dog as soon as we got married because I was dying to have one. Then, my dude wanted a cat. Didn’t stop us from having kids. In fact, most of my friends with kids also have pets. It’s almost as if people who like creating bonds and caring for others, and who aren’t too old to start new relationships, do just that! And bitter people who are too unpleasant and lazy to find intimacy will blame anything for their loneliness.

    And decline is not a sure thing, from where I’m sitting. Things are very salvageable still. In any case, there’s a lot left to enjoy.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Maya

    I have adopted dogs for 40 years (horses, too) - probably 35 if I count them out. I have 3 sons your age...actually younger (23, eldest)...since they are finishing up degrees. So, I am not a cat lady as you suspect...I just hate SJW's/won't allow my sons to marry them: no way, hell no. And, your "hard Ukrainian women" hit a nerve. What is so HARD that you detest? Are you familiar with Ukrainians, Poles, Latvian women? Have you ever even been in that part of the world? - I think: not. Well, I speak some of those Baltic languages, so, you should really stop being a stupid American girl.

    Be honest. Be authentic. That was my criticism of you. If you can't deal with criticism (obvious) , you will be paralyzed with doubt forever. And, if you come here, on an international forum, don't expect to be praised - quite the opposite. The one thing I can say is: you are on thin ice from now on. No one cares who you are here, absolutely no one. You are on your own. This is a scary place for weak people.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Maya

  101. Anonymous [AKA "Cinneade Duglas"] says:
    @whorefinder
    @prosa123

    The shut down of the L, I believe, is deliberate to drive the ethnics out from further back on the line. Gentrification must spread out further in hip Brooklyn.

    The L train goes through much of Brooklyn, and for many is the ONLY subway line they can use to get into Manhattan. The far-reaches of the L line are heavy immigrant enclaves who come into the city to work in the kitchens, or as custodians, or in manual labor such as construction.The vast crowding the L train has experienced in recent years still hasn't shaken those stubborn poor folks from their neighborhoods---because many of them get on so early in the train ride to Manhattan that they can get seats, while the hipsters who get on in closer-to-Manhattan Williamsburg can barely get into the crowded cars.

    Those distant neighborhoods are quite pleasant when crime is down, and many of which have small parks with memorials to WWI, WW2, or even the Revolution---meaning they were made by early whites, and thus the neighborhood has "good bones." I lived in one of them, and was the only white around, but the neighborhood was quite safe because the folks there worked all day and went to church and raised their kids right. And when I walked the neighborhood, even though it was poor and dilapidated, and even though I'm no real estate guy, even I could see the potential for such a place, and how it had probably once been far nicer than it was then.

    Most of the folks at the back end of the line live not just pay check to paycheck, but are heavily in debt on their paychecks to some very sketchy folks---old fashioned loan sharks, payday lenders, immigrant smugglers, and the like. A shut down like this will make living in the city unaffordable for them, as they will not be able to get to work without spending a fortune on cabs (which they don't have) or transferring to three buses two hours earlier than they get up now. They will light out for places that either have good transport into the city or else take jobs in those places.

    Then when the L train is finally fixed---and push that timeline out to 5 years, not just 1, this is a modern city construction project with all its "unexpected" delays----the old distant neighborhoods will be so abandoned that developers can steal them for a song and revamp them, just in time for a subway that works properly and quickly. It'll be the New Williamsburg by then, so long as crime in NYC is kept down.

    Replies: @prosa123, @Anonymous

    This is exactly right. My brothers in Brooklyn real estate. The L shut down has spiked property prices along the JMZ line and into soon to be former vibrant areas of bed-sty full of brown stones. The ethnic cleansing of NYC marches on. Problem is the projects. Which stand like giant immovable sincs of evil spreading destruction all around them.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Anonymous

    That's a good point, I hadn't thought how the shutdown would shoot up prices on the JMZ lines in Brooklyn(or likely also in Queens). The Bed-Sty projects are on on the line----rapper Jay-Z, who claims his name came from another rapper, likely took his name from the "JZ" subway line to the projects, lending him street cred; the JZ subways are colored brown, while the M line is colored orange, so JZ fit together better than "JMZ".

    The problem is the JZ is a notoriously crappy line, due to it's age and the fact that it serves the projects---no one is wealthy enough on the line to buy a politician to fix it. But like Cabrini Green in Chicago, a lot of developers and law enforcement types have been itiching to tear down the Bed-Sty projects and surrounding area to get to that real estate and scatter the blacks/criminals to smaller projects and more distant cities.

    The spike in prices from the L shut down could get a lot of blacks who own in the neighborhood to sell, and then all that would be needed would be for the Mayor to declare the Bed-Sty projects a "disaster" and "full of health code violations" and get a bunch of other smaller projects quickly built around the city---you know, to save blacks from the "awful" conditions at Bed Sty.

    If I were a young federal investigator/AUSA on the make, I would watch very closely (1) who proposes tearing down Bed-Sty; (2) who builds/buys in Bed-Sty in the next 5 years; and (3) who those builders/buyers donate to. I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of...overlap.

  102. @DFH
    @George


    Build an airport in an empty area of Iowa so that it can be expanded rapidly if successful.
     
    It would be nice if there was some infrastructure pre-built for the white ethno-state

    Replies: @EdwardM

    How about the abandoned island of Barbuda?

    https://rightwise.org/2017/09/16/win-win-how-about-creating-that-libertarian-paradise-in-barbuda/

    I assume that even before the hurricane, the infrastructure was not U.S.-level, but with something to build upon, enterprising whites could easily make it livable.

  103. @Harry Baldwin
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not true, according to an in-depth article on Baltimore homicides in the Baltimore Sun:


    In Baltimore, one of every three people struck by gunfire dies, up from one death in every four shootings the previous decade. It ranks as one of the most lethal of America's largest cities, according to a Baltimore Sun analysis. Two other cities — Washington and New Orleans — shared the brutal distinction of one in three shootings ending in a homicide in 2015. Like Baltimore, several cities have seen the death grip tighten. In Chicago, one in 10 people died after being shot in 2000; now one in six perishes. Last year, the odds for gunshot victims worsened in at least 10 of the nation's largest cities, The Sun found.
     
    http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/shoot-to-kill/

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Harry, I said the death rate garners the headlines. The number of maimed is still significant. In Buffalo a 10 year old “survives” a bullet through his brain. That is a life time death sentence. But we’re good.

  104. @Anonymous
    @whorefinder

    This is exactly right. My brothers in Brooklyn real estate. The L shut down has spiked property prices along the JMZ line and into soon to be former vibrant areas of bed-sty full of brown stones. The ethnic cleansing of NYC marches on. Problem is the projects. Which stand like giant immovable sincs of evil spreading destruction all around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    That’s a good point, I hadn’t thought how the shutdown would shoot up prices on the JMZ lines in Brooklyn(or likely also in Queens). The Bed-Sty projects are on on the line—-rapper Jay-Z, who claims his name came from another rapper, likely took his name from the “JZ” subway line to the projects, lending him street cred; the JZ subways are colored brown, while the M line is colored orange, so JZ fit together better than “JMZ”.

    The problem is the JZ is a notoriously crappy line, due to it’s age and the fact that it serves the projects—no one is wealthy enough on the line to buy a politician to fix it. But like Cabrini Green in Chicago, a lot of developers and law enforcement types have been itiching to tear down the Bed-Sty projects and surrounding area to get to that real estate and scatter the blacks/criminals to smaller projects and more distant cities.

    The spike in prices from the L shut down could get a lot of blacks who own in the neighborhood to sell, and then all that would be needed would be for the Mayor to declare the Bed-Sty projects a “disaster” and “full of health code violations” and get a bunch of other smaller projects quickly built around the city—you know, to save blacks from the “awful” conditions at Bed Sty.

    If I were a young federal investigator/AUSA on the make, I would watch very closely (1) who proposes tearing down Bed-Sty; (2) who builds/buys in Bed-Sty in the next 5 years; and (3) who those builders/buyers donate to. I’m guessing there’s going to be a lot of…overlap.

  105. @Whiskey
    Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that's the law in a year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Jack Hanson, @Lagertha

    Whiskey, the anti-prophet.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Jack Hanson

    But...Whiskey is one of the reasons I can't quite Unz. Btw, Whatever happened to Mark Minter???????

  106. @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Is it the whole, "Boo hoo women adopt pets rather than have some sour nerd's baby that he wouldn't love more than his computer games anyway"?

    Sorry. Doesn't hold true. Sure, the elderly often acquire pets for companionship, and there is more elderly women than men.

    Otherwise, I've volunteered at several animal shelters, and most adopters are families or young couples. I grew up with a dog and a cat. My parents, now empty nesters, still have a dog and a cat, like they have for almost 30 years. My husband and I got our dog as soon as we got married because I was dying to have one. Then, my dude wanted a cat. Didn't stop us from having kids. In fact, most of my friends with kids also have pets. It's almost as if people who like creating bonds and caring for others, and who aren't too old to start new relationships, do just that! And bitter people who are too unpleasant and lazy to find intimacy will blame anything for their loneliness.

    And decline is not a sure thing, from where I'm sitting. Things are very salvageable still. In any case, there's a lot left to enjoy.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    I have adopted dogs for 40 years (horses, too) – probably 35 if I count them out. I have 3 sons your age…actually younger (23, eldest)…since they are finishing up degrees. So, I am not a cat lady as you suspect…I just hate SJW’s/won’t allow my sons to marry them: no way, hell no. And, your “hard Ukrainian women” hit a nerve. What is so HARD that you detest? Are you familiar with Ukrainians, Poles, Latvian women? Have you ever even been in that part of the world? – I think: not. Well, I speak some of those Baltic languages, so, you should really stop being a stupid American girl.

    Be honest. Be authentic. That was my criticism of you. If you can’t deal with criticism (obvious) , you will be paralyzed with doubt forever. And, if you come here, on an international forum, don’t expect to be praised – quite the opposite. The one thing I can say is: you are on thin ice from now on. No one cares who you are here, absolutely no one. You are on your own. This is a scary place for weak people.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    meant to add: I learned the hard way how much fighting (or humiliation) is involved to get your opinion out there (anywhere/anytime)- even beyond the safety of Steve Safe Space. . No one ever cuts anyone a break, here, btw - I went thru it and survived. I wanted to quit it....but am addicted to the "family." And, in the long run, it does not matter.

    You may inspire younger people, new people...but that is it. Life is a battle for good over evil. Sounds cheesy, but it is still the truth. Your voice will give energy to younger voices...but before that, they have to walk thru the valley of the wolves. But, we want all younger people here. Say Anything. I also know (I'm thinking you are female) tons of guys (my sons' rugby team sports) in the west now...so, yeah.

    Replies: @Maya

    , @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Dude! What the...?
    Okay.
    I'm glad you've adopted lots of animals, and hope you took good care of them. I guess they were all purebred, then. Because you were triggered by the word "mutts". I thought it's because you are one of those people who think that young urbanites substitute dogs for human relationships. Turns out you just hate mixed breeds. That's okay.

    Stupid or not, I'm very content being an American girl. My father put in a lot of effort and resources to turn me into an American.

    Thank you for letting me post on this international forum, on this here internet. It CAN be a cold scary place. But I don't think I'm all on my own with no ine to care about me. Because WE are friends, right? I feel like you got my back (no homo) and if anyone gives me crap, you'll stand up for me. Thank you for that!

    Replies: @Lagertha

  107. @Lagertha
    @Maya

    I have adopted dogs for 40 years (horses, too) - probably 35 if I count them out. I have 3 sons your age...actually younger (23, eldest)...since they are finishing up degrees. So, I am not a cat lady as you suspect...I just hate SJW's/won't allow my sons to marry them: no way, hell no. And, your "hard Ukrainian women" hit a nerve. What is so HARD that you detest? Are you familiar with Ukrainians, Poles, Latvian women? Have you ever even been in that part of the world? - I think: not. Well, I speak some of those Baltic languages, so, you should really stop being a stupid American girl.

    Be honest. Be authentic. That was my criticism of you. If you can't deal with criticism (obvious) , you will be paralyzed with doubt forever. And, if you come here, on an international forum, don't expect to be praised - quite the opposite. The one thing I can say is: you are on thin ice from now on. No one cares who you are here, absolutely no one. You are on your own. This is a scary place for weak people.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Maya

    meant to add: I learned the hard way how much fighting (or humiliation) is involved to get your opinion out there (anywhere/anytime)- even beyond the safety of Steve Safe Space. . No one ever cuts anyone a break, here, btw – I went thru it and survived. I wanted to quit it….but am addicted to the “family.” And, in the long run, it does not matter.

    You may inspire younger people, new people…but that is it. Life is a battle for good over evil. Sounds cheesy, but it is still the truth. Your voice will give energy to younger voices…but before that, they have to walk thru the valley of the wolves. But, we want all younger people here. Say Anything. I also know (I’m thinking you are female) tons of guys (my sons’ rugby team sports) in the west now…so, yeah.

    • Replies: @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Hey! I'm glad you had an add on to your reply because I forgot to ask a thing.

    You say you won't let your sons marry SJWs. How does that work, exactly? What do people mean when they say variations of this? Are your sons financially dependent on you? Do they live with you, so all you have to do is block your front door if a potential sjw daughter in law tries to enter? And throw her stuff out on the front lawn if one sneakily moved in whike you were at the dentist?

    My great great grandfather's brother didnt want to marry the girl his parents chose for him, and he proposed to a different girl. So his father hired professionals to give him a whipping in the main square of their village. And this worked too, accoring to family legend! I don't really have a point. You just made me think of this story.

  108. @Whiskey
    Stick a fork in Trump and the flag and national anthem. Congress will ban the latter two in a week. And a week after that formalize Whites as fifth class citizens. Flag burnings mandatory at all football games.

    Inevitable. A function of demography and White cuckdom. Choices are Jim Crow or this. Always has been.

    Popovich of the Spurs wants you White deplorable s to check your privileges and grovel before all Blacks . that's the law in a year.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SteveRogers42, @Buffalo Joe, @Jack Hanson, @Lagertha

    you’re getting lazy. Why the bar-b-que visuals – so not essential? No; corporatists will strangle the owners….and, the players – they will, literally, drown them. No one will be able to breath. Because: MIC is pissed! They have sunk millions into this pageantry to keep the rubes to join the wars-for-profit, and Kaepernick & Co. are bringing pathos/different agenda to the narrative.

  109. @Jack Hanson
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, the anti-prophet.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    But…Whiskey is one of the reasons I can’t quite Unz. Btw, Whatever happened to Mark Minter???????

  110. @Lagertha
    @Maya

    I have adopted dogs for 40 years (horses, too) - probably 35 if I count them out. I have 3 sons your age...actually younger (23, eldest)...since they are finishing up degrees. So, I am not a cat lady as you suspect...I just hate SJW's/won't allow my sons to marry them: no way, hell no. And, your "hard Ukrainian women" hit a nerve. What is so HARD that you detest? Are you familiar with Ukrainians, Poles, Latvian women? Have you ever even been in that part of the world? - I think: not. Well, I speak some of those Baltic languages, so, you should really stop being a stupid American girl.

    Be honest. Be authentic. That was my criticism of you. If you can't deal with criticism (obvious) , you will be paralyzed with doubt forever. And, if you come here, on an international forum, don't expect to be praised - quite the opposite. The one thing I can say is: you are on thin ice from now on. No one cares who you are here, absolutely no one. You are on your own. This is a scary place for weak people.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Maya

    Dude! What the…?
    Okay.
    I’m glad you’ve adopted lots of animals, and hope you took good care of them. I guess they were all purebred, then. Because you were triggered by the word “mutts”. I thought it’s because you are one of those people who think that young urbanites substitute dogs for human relationships. Turns out you just hate mixed breeds. That’s okay.

    Stupid or not, I’m very content being an American girl. My father put in a lot of effort and resources to turn me into an American.

    Thank you for letting me post on this international forum, on this here internet. It CAN be a cold scary place. But I don’t think I’m all on my own with no ine to care about me. Because WE are friends, right? I feel like you got my back (no homo) and if anyone gives me crap, you’ll stand up for me. Thank you for that!

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Maya

    and, even if you were being sarcastic, you are welcome to say anything you want to say, here, for time infinitum. You say what you want; you will get responses, now and then. That's why you and others come here/stumble here. We learn from each other...sometimes argue. Did I mention the holidays are coming soon, again?

  111. @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    meant to add: I learned the hard way how much fighting (or humiliation) is involved to get your opinion out there (anywhere/anytime)- even beyond the safety of Steve Safe Space. . No one ever cuts anyone a break, here, btw - I went thru it and survived. I wanted to quit it....but am addicted to the "family." And, in the long run, it does not matter.

    You may inspire younger people, new people...but that is it. Life is a battle for good over evil. Sounds cheesy, but it is still the truth. Your voice will give energy to younger voices...but before that, they have to walk thru the valley of the wolves. But, we want all younger people here. Say Anything. I also know (I'm thinking you are female) tons of guys (my sons' rugby team sports) in the west now...so, yeah.

    Replies: @Maya

    Hey! I’m glad you had an add on to your reply because I forgot to ask a thing.

    You say you won’t let your sons marry SJWs. How does that work, exactly? What do people mean when they say variations of this? Are your sons financially dependent on you? Do they live with you, so all you have to do is block your front door if a potential sjw daughter in law tries to enter? And throw her stuff out on the front lawn if one sneakily moved in whike you were at the dentist?

    My great great grandfather’s brother didnt want to marry the girl his parents chose for him, and he proposed to a different girl. So his father hired professionals to give him a whipping in the main square of their village. And this worked too, accoring to family legend! I don’t really have a point. You just made me think of this story.

  112. seriously? No is my answer to your queries. And, it sounds like someone threw your stuff out the window/changed the locks not too long ago. Please don’t reply: this is a courtesy response….everything else will go to BORING/Ignore, Ignore app.

  113. @Maya
    @Lagertha

    Dude! What the...?
    Okay.
    I'm glad you've adopted lots of animals, and hope you took good care of them. I guess they were all purebred, then. Because you were triggered by the word "mutts". I thought it's because you are one of those people who think that young urbanites substitute dogs for human relationships. Turns out you just hate mixed breeds. That's okay.

    Stupid or not, I'm very content being an American girl. My father put in a lot of effort and resources to turn me into an American.

    Thank you for letting me post on this international forum, on this here internet. It CAN be a cold scary place. But I don't think I'm all on my own with no ine to care about me. Because WE are friends, right? I feel like you got my back (no homo) and if anyone gives me crap, you'll stand up for me. Thank you for that!

    Replies: @Lagertha

    and, even if you were being sarcastic, you are welcome to say anything you want to say, here, for time infinitum. You say what you want; you will get responses, now and then. That’s why you and others come here/stumble here. We learn from each other…sometimes argue. Did I mention the holidays are coming soon, again?

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