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(9:30 pm PDT Thursday:) A problem with the Democrats’ high-low coalition of the fringes is that the fringes are awfully fringy. Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know that.

Update: From the NYT (6:48 AM PDT Friday)

Snipers killed five Dallas police officers and wounded seven others, along with two civilians, during a demonstration on Thursday night against police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana this week, the authorities said.

By morning, one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb after extensive negotiations during a standoff in a garage in downtown Dallas at the El Centro community college. Three others were in custody.

The Dallas police chief, David O. Brown, said the gunman who was killed had “said he was upset about Black Lives Matter, said he was upset about the recent police shootings.”

Chief Brown said, “The suspect said he was upset at white people; the suspect said he wanted to kill white people.” He was especially upset at white police officers, said Chief Brown.

“This must stop, this divisiveness between police and citizens,” said Chief Brown said, who is black.

The dead suspect is supposedly Michah X. Johnson of Dallas, age 25. He claimed to be a lone wolf.

Another update from the NYT:

“We cornered one suspect and we tried to negotiate for several hours,” Dallas Police Chief David Brown said during a Friday morning news conference, but “negotiations broke down” and turned into “an exchange of gunfire with the suspect.”

The suspect was identified as Micah X. Johnson, 25, a resident of the Dallas area, a U.S. law enforcement official said.

Johnson had no known criminal history or ties to terror groups, the official said, and has relatives in Mesquite, Texas, which is just east of Dallas.The official said federal agents were assisting Dallas authorities in the investigation.

Brown said a hostage negotiator spoke with the gunman at length before he was killed about 2:30 a.m.. The chief said the attacker said he was upset “with white people” and with recent police shootings. The suspect also said that he was not affiliated with any groups and that he acted alone, Brown said.

“The suspect said we will eventually find the IEDs,” Brown said, a reference to explosives. “He wanted to kill officers. And he expressed killing white people, killing white officers, he expressed anger for Black Lives Matter.”

“We saw no other option than to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension to detonate where the suspect was,” Brown said, adding that, “other options would have exposed our officers to grave danger.”

Brown said reports that the suspect shot himself were incorrect. “The suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb,” he said.

 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’m calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it’s going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It’ll backfire on them badly.

    • Replies: @e
    @Anon

    No tweet from Trump yet>>>>>>>good.
    Hillary, of course, earlier tweeted her support of BLM.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anon

    I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump's benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the "silent majority."

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Hepp
    @Anon


    I’m calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it’s going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It’ll backfire on them badly.

     

    This isn't Nixon's America anymore. We're becoming like Sweden or France, where the majority of whites are too blind to be woken up by anything.

    Replies: @Wally, @SteveRogers42

    , @JimB
    @Anon

    Also, a lot of black political clout comes from those nice church ladies who rely on cops to patrol their neighborhoods while they go out to vote. If they don't feel safe going out because the local murder rate has increased 63%, because BLM discouraged cops from patrolling proactively, they may be less inclined to vote.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Realist
    @Anon

    " It’ll backfire on them badly."

    Not a chance.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Thea
    @Anon

    We are too far gone for even Trump. Look at the gov of Minn. Lots of "nice" Midwesterners agrees with him.

    While Putin says " Russia doesn't need minorities, minotities neeed Russia, " our leaders demand we worship crooks due to skin color.

    There will be massive election fraud, a state of emergency limiting rights, and continued hair shirt wearing.

    , @AndrewR
    @Anon

    Ideologically and, to a lesser extent, demographically this is not your grandpappy's America.

    , @Corvinus
    @Anon

    It's deranged people who commit these terrorist acts.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3123329/Dallas-gunman-strangled-mother-fun-rampage-police-station-threatened-lives-judges-ruled-against-custody-battle-claim-authorities.html

    Not leftists. Not conservatives. People. But the Coalition of the Fringes, both on the left and on the right, will use these murders for their political advantage.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Anon

    When I saw the video my sympathies were all with the young couple and child brutalized by this homicidally out of control cop. Then I listened to NPR.

    First, they gave extended coverage to the idiot in the White House and his usual low-keyed race-baiting, inserting himself unnecessarily into an already tense situation and making it worse. Then NPR chose to interview some rabble rousing Negro "minister" whose chief claim to fame seems to be having done time for a cop shooting before he "found Jesus". This clown claimed to have personally known the victim but it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was doing an ex tempore sort-of-eulogy just to get air time and his fifteen minutes of fame. (I hope some one fact checks this and nails NPR to the wall on it.)

    The bottom line is that lefties were tripping over themselves to turn an already horrific situation as much worse as they could make it. The payoff is Dallas and what will follow.

    Replies: @woodNfish

  2. More than 10. At least 4 dead. I wouldn’t be surprised if white anarchist types were involved.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @timothy

    Agree. See my comments above regarding the probable involvement of one or more White cucks.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    , @Brohemius
    @timothy

    How did you find this site?

    , @Big Bill
    @timothy

    Oh my goodness! I just got back from the fields! I am dying to know what the narrative is going to be!

    Evil white racist commies shoot hardworking black cops?

    Homosexual black man (triggered by Orlando shooting and unconscionable SWAT team delay) snaps and shoots fundamentalist white cops?

    Black men, pushed beyond limits by white racism, take out five white cops?

    This has such tremendous leftie potential.

  3. It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military …?

    Perhaps — going way out on a limb — they were current operatives like the snipers who shot at both sides in Ukraine? We don’t know at this point.

    If they were rational and methodical about their murder spree, they might have had a goal in mind and assumed Americans would react predictably.

    It’s all speculation, but we need to be careful about what happens next.

    A lot of people are angry enough to say “bring it on.” We should avoid that event unless there’s no sensible alternative.

    • Replies: @Brohemius
    @Borachio

    I don't know, was John Allen Muhammed a "professional"?

    , @RudyM
    @Borachio

    This is exactly what I have been thinking. I have hardly read anything about any of this yet, so maybe it will quickly become apparent what actually happened once I start looking, but I'm trying to focus more on what happened than what it means. We can spin out accounts of what it means all day long, but, as with the recent events in Orlando (which I consider a psyop of some sort), it's important to scrutinize the reported event.

    , @Dr. X
    @Borachio


    It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military …?
     
    Don't put too much emphasis on the word "sniper." The gun-ignorant media refers to any shooting with a rifle as "sniping."

    Real sniping in military parlance refers to precision shooting from a position of cover at targets 600 to 1000 yards away.
  4. Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be “a long hot summer”…

    • Replies: @AndyBoy
    @Ron Unz

    Forced "diversity" and peace don't go together. Never have.

    , @pink_point
    @Ron Unz

    Wouldn't hurt to see an extensive op by you on the matter, admittedly.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @Clyde
    @Ron Unz


    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @Talha
    @Ron Unz

    The police eliminated (assassinated) certain Panthers and I do recall there were some actual shootouts, but no sniper-type activity. The 60's were a different era though - or maybe not with the way things are going.

    This is horrendous.

    Peace.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @JimB
    @Ron Unz

    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.

    Replies: @V Vega, @slumber_j, @Almost Missouri

    , @Chris Mallory
    @Ron Unz

    A black Naval deserter killed 9, including 5 cops, and wounded 13 mostly by using sniper tactics during two days of attacks in New Orleans in 1973.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Essex

    , @Dr. X
    @Ron Unz


    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Didn't the Black Panthers shoot up a courthouse and kill a judge and several others?
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Ron Unz

    As I recall, the worst incident involved a bunch of Negro thugs plotting and executing the ambush murder of two patrol officers in NYC. This was front page news in the NYT for weeks. There were also a number of isolated murders of police, e.g., by Chesimard and by a couple of White Brandeis SDS coeds hanging out with White gangsters in Boston. Nothing at all like this.

    We are simmering on the verge of a race war here and I lay most of it on that idiot in the White House who is either utterly ignorant of race relations in this country or is trying to start a race war. Every time he has inserted himself into situations like this -- which are not part of his purview -- he has increased tensions to frightening degrees.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Expletive Deleted

    , @Charlesz Martel
    @Ron Unz

    Oh yeah, it did. Look up the killings in New Orleans circa 1970 where a sniper went to the roof of a hotel, shot at and killed whites - I can't remember the number. I believe he also killed a white man he ran into on his way to the roof of the hotel and told a black maid "We're only killing white folks". The police used a helicopter to rake the rooftop of the hotel with bullets all night. His body was found riddled with bullets the next morning. There was talk of other shooters, but nothing ever came of it.

    I knew a guy 20-30 years ago who told me that in his Southern City, the police chief had asked members of the local R/C Airplane club if they could design a R/C plane with a video camera that the police could use inn a similar situation, as they were expecting similar attacks all around the country. Before much could be done, he came back and told them to forget about it and not to mention the project to anybody, under threat of making their lives hell. An early drone attempt for law enforcement.

    Replies: @James Braxton, @Dew

  5. Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know know that.

    So what’s the endgame? How will Hillary back these murderous blacks off once she wins the election? Or will we all just have to get used to unpolice-able myrmidions roaming the streets of every city larger than Redding?

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Daniel Williams

    Ultimately? I think they're aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they'll be sued into oblivion.

    They'll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    Replies: @guest, @AndrewR, @donut, @WhatEvvs

    , @JimB
    @Daniel Williams

    Well, I'm still waiting to find out if the snipers were Muslim. In any case, Hillary has no need to ask fringe militants to back off when she's president. They are useful for intimidating the opposition. Just like the Hispanic thugs unleashed by BAMN on anyone who dares publicly support Trump.

    , @Dr. X
    @Daniel Williams


    So what’s the endgame?
     
    Hillary's national gun control law. (The cops won't give up theirs, of course.)

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

  6. Obama and Shill have blood on their hands. Of course as we know, people in their echelon never really have to be held accountable for anything.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @AndrewR

    Nor do the billionaires who installed them in their positions.

    What I want to know--after the assassin(s) are identified--is whose money supported them at every stage.

    Somehow the M$M are too busy applying bleedy leady clickbait tactics to care about that hard diggy/thinky stuff. Just as "refugees" magically appear on the shores of sovereign European nations or the US. Nobody sent them, nobody paid their way, nobody set it all up. It just happens. Like rain.

    In my view, "philanthropic" foundations and their bought-and-paid-for thinktanks are a big part of the problem-matrix we face at present. The efforts to harden federal control over everything aren't arising from the vacuum of space, but from monied interests with carefully established mechanisms and institutions of operation. Thus "federal control" isn't about federal government in general but this elite caste's control in particular.

    Replies: @guest

  7. I find myself wondering, among other things, about who, exactly, made this happen.

    You’re talking about two people acting in concert with assault rifles, and apparently at some distance and elevation. And they were able to escape, apparently. That’s more organized than your average fringe.

    I wonder if it wasn’t some group like the thugs who attacked the “neo-Nazis” in Sacramento, who had been preparing for violence for some time.

    • Agree: pink_point
    • Replies: @Paul Rise
    @candid_observer

    There's an odious, Texas-based group called Peaceful Streets that generally despises police. Neo-Nazis hate police as well. The planning of it suggests ISIS. Very bizarre, very awful crime. This is why there is a death penalty, although something tells me these guys won't be taken into custody.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @schmenz

    , @guest
    @candid_observer

    No, it was not like Sacramento. Their tactics were infantile. These snipers apparently knew what they were doing.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Boomstick

    , @Curle
    @candid_observer

    Who made this happen? I predict the culture of hate is fingered. Maybe even those running for office who have been stoking a culture of hate. Actual alignments or political positions or persons committing the deed matter no more than they did when a communist shot JFK and the culture of violence in Dallas was fingered as the culprit. Our entire media culture is built on lies and evasions. Expect the normal procedures to go into high gear.

    Replies: @snorlax, @candid_observer, @Chrisnonymous

    , @Bill Jones
    @candid_observer

    Why do you think they used "assault rifles"?

  8. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    No tweet from Trump yet>>>>>>>good.
    Hillary, of course, earlier tweeted her support of BLM.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @e

    "No tweet from Trump yet>>>>>>>good."

    I know, right? He seems to be getting it now.

  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn’t get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in “the community” because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn’t get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in “the community” because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality."

    I remember reading about how Whitewashed Black males who do not behave stereotypically mah dick dindu nuffin have a hard time getting laid in the African American community because they are seen as too soft by most of the Sistas.

    So they have to either date outside of their race or find a Black woman who is part of the talented tenth, who does not behave like a Shaniqua.

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Anonymous

    "Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community" are they really only rewarded in their own community?

    , @Hacienda
    @Anonymous

    I got T-boned by a black woman who ran a red light at the intersection by Los Angeles High School. She got on her cell phone and in two minutes a couple of 20 something black guys drove up. They just kind of made their presence known. I exchanged info, driver's license. Turned out the info, license was fake.

    The accident occurred at night and a Mexican came up to me and stated I didn't have my headlights on. I'm absolutely positive I had my lights on. I still have the pictures in my head.

    Now I've learned over the years that Mexicans, while not typically ill-willed, can make amazingly unreliable observations of things.

    It's a remarkably glitchy world we live in.

  10. @candid_observer
    I find myself wondering, among other things, about who, exactly, made this happen.

    You're talking about two people acting in concert with assault rifles, and apparently at some distance and elevation. And they were able to escape, apparently. That's more organized than your average fringe.

    I wonder if it wasn't some group like the thugs who attacked the "neo-Nazis" in Sacramento, who had been preparing for violence for some time.

    Replies: @Paul Rise, @guest, @Curle, @Bill Jones

    There’s an odious, Texas-based group called Peaceful Streets that generally despises police. Neo-Nazis hate police as well. The planning of it suggests ISIS. Very bizarre, very awful crime. This is why there is a death penalty, although something tells me these guys won’t be taken into custody.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @Paul Rise

    Tell us more about this. You may be on to something.

    , @schmenz
    @Paul Rise

    "The planning of it suggests ISIS"

    I would say the planning of this suggests SOROS.

  11. @Daniel Williams

    Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know know that.
     
    So what's the endgame? How will Hillary back these murderous blacks off once she wins the election? Or will we all just have to get used to unpolice-able myrmidions roaming the streets of every city larger than Redding?

    Replies: @Boomstick, @JimB, @Dr. X

    Ultimately? I think they’re aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That’s pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they’ll be sued into oblivion.

    They’ll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Boomstick

    On one hand, I see local cops afraid to pull people over or even talk to anyone who might be in a protected class. On the other hand, feds in control of policing at all levels nationwide might mean Wacos as far as the eye can see.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    , @AndrewR
    @Boomstick

    Yep. We see it with the two fatal shootings of black males this week. The federal Do"J" started "investigating" before the bodies were even cold.

    Replies: @res

    , @donut
    @Boomstick

    My guess is that the ultimate goal of this is the imposition of martial law . For most of this century the police been becoming more and more militarized . The media stokes the fires of racial hatred against whites relentlessly and the elected traitors go along with it and encourage the urban savages and their allies to continue to shred our civilization . All this insanity could be stopped in a matter of months if there was a will to do so , lawfully and IAW the constitution . The point of all this is to provoke a reaction from more mainstream whites , not the fringe . As soon as that happens we'll get martial law , suspension of Habeas corpus and other constitutional protections . And of course they will come for your guns . The police will serve any master , the POC don't give a shit about the constitution and the Millennials are are positively hostile to it because they see it as only protecting the people they despise . This didn't just start with Barry , he's not bright enough . This progressive take over started at least with Brandeis nomination to the Supreme court from which position he pushed his progressive agenda . A long time in the making while we slept and , mea culpa , sometimes supported the liberal positions . Now with events moving so fast we're like a deer in the headlights . As I said once before things have gotten pretty bad when you hear about increased activity at the Yosemite Caldera and feel a surge of optimism .

    , @WhatEvvs
    @Boomstick

    "They’ll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando."

    We do need rational gun control, although I'm at a loss as to what that means in this day and age.

    Mike Cernovich, who is a huge hero to the alt-right, is retweeting a picture of a black man who was taken in and released.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/751275318476845056

    Perhaps this particular man isn't a threat, but would you like to be around him? What do you think of the groveling caption? Doesn't it sound, in your language, rather cucked?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  12. Can’t wait to hear the post-racial POTUS express his sincere sympathy for and solidarity with the fallen cops and their families.

    Not that I’m holding my breath, you understand.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Kylie

    Funny how the name Bill Ayers doesn't come up in these instances. But it should . . .

  13. In NY the entire state would be mobilized to find the murderers of police men. Not just the police force. Everyone.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @avraham

    Complete nonsense. I've lived, worked, and traveled extensively in NY City and State, grew up near NY/NJ border. There are millions of NY residents who don't give a damn about the cops getting shot and even applaud it, including Africans and others. I doubt that a majority of non-white "New Yorkers" would lift a finger to help, especially if the dead cops are mostly white.

  14. Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Wilkey

    Exactly! And that was only the tip of the african spear. Lord how I despise all those who voted for that alien.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Wilkey

    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    its coz u have a black prez. and it can get much worse

    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    black governance leads to this

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Wilkey


    ...a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans...
     
    The VA hospital here in Sioux Falls, has been magnificent for my father. He'd be dead more than once, if it weren't for their great (and very costly...yet still free-to-him) work. I understand there are some very real and very serious problems with the VA, but let's not jump on the bandwagon of just dismissing the agency as a whole. There are some great people who work for the VA, too.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Pericles
    @Wilkey


    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

     

    Twice!
  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know if this is a general Democrat strategy. It may be more of the Obama faction strategy:

    ” Hacked messages of #BlackLivesMatter leader reveal Obama admin’s plan for ‘summer of chaos’ and martial law”

    https://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2016/07/hacked-messages-reveal-obama-admins.html

    U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch is coordinating with Democratic activists to so disrupt the upcoming Republican and Democratic National Conventions that martial law will be declared.

    That’s the stunning discovery revealed in a series of direct messages between three activists.

    On Friday, June 10, 2016, someone hacked into the Twitter account of #BlackLivesMatter (BLM) leader and former Baltimore mayoral candidateDeRay McKesson. McKesson later confirmed the hack to The Baltimore Sun.

    On June 11, 2016, a Twitterer who calls himself The Saint (@TheSaintNegro) tweeted a direct-message conversation on June 10 between KcKesson and another BLM leader Johnetta Elzie (Netta), in which the two discussed talking with Attorney General Loretta Lynch about plans to bring on martial law by causing chaos at the upcoming Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, and the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, PA, so as to keep Obama in office.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    @Anonymous

    Interesting, but most I-Steve commenters apparently do not believe in conspiracy theories.

    , @citizen
    @Anonymous

    We really need someone to look into whether or not this is true. I've seen it floating around a lot, and it is incredibly significant. Whether it is fake propaganda or evidence of real conversation, we need someone credible to look into this.

  16. Oñe of the persons of interest has a picture released Black male. The other is reportedly holed up in a building.

    Its all about power. Expect a lecture from Obama and Hillary about White racism and Black rage.

    Like Muslim atricities this will only serve for more surrender to BLM.

    This is functionally à White minority country with Whites at the bottom.

  17. I’d start by getting the news organizations to report these police shootings properly.

    Don’t presume guilt on the part of the police and don’t sensationalize the grieving families.

    The media is criminally culpable.

    • Agree: Thea, AndrewR, Luke Lea
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Hacienda

    Crying black mothers make for great Democrat propaganda.

  18. It’s the yuppy Whites who actually made this happen. The hipsters. The SWPLs.

    They stabbed the mass of Whites in the back with policies and narratives that led to this.

    Tell me again how cool they are.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @AndyBoy

    Sadly, even many "alt-right" people here think SWPL's are preferable to those icky rednecks, i.e. the people who have actual jobs and keep their limp wrists safe.

  19. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    Forced “diversity” and peace don’t go together. Never have.

  20. A photo of a black suspect with a rifle is being shown. It will be interesting to see if any connection can be made between the shooters and the BLM organizers, if anyone is caught. Could they be so stupid?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @OilcanFloyd

    It wasn't that guy. There's video of that guy walking down the street when the shots are fired.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @OilcanFloyd

  21. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Dukakis still had a big lead in July. Hillary not so much. She’s the dirtiest candidate in a long long time.

    Clintons are supposed to be such political geniuses but this past week was an EPIC FAIL.

    Trump wins a “chaos election” going away. Corruption loses to Law & Order.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    The polls show that Trump is more popular on national security issues. If Americans feel fear at home (from terrorist attacks and murders of police), that can only help Trump.

    Perhaps he sees a bump in the polls within the next few days.

    It'll be interesting to see if Hillary's multiracial coalition begins to bicker, creating disenchantment among whites.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

  22. Barack Hussein Obama’s sons are responsible for murdering these police officers in Dallas, yet the Liberals on the comments section of The Huffington Post are all blaming this on White Christian Republican Donald Trump supporters, just like they did with the Orlando terrorist attack.

    Since when did Donald Trump supporters side with Black Lies Matter over the police? The Huffington Post attracts all of the retards from the Left.

    White Christian Republicans are to The Huffington Post like what Jews are to Stormfront.

    At Huffington everything bad in the world are blamed on White Christian Republicans

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Jefferson

    Pretty much. Battle lines have been drawn, emotions are bubbling over and reason will not prevail.

    The media & powers that be wanted a race war to distract the masses and keep themselves in power. They now have it.

    I just don't see anyway this nation can avoid a bloodbath as each side is out for revenge against real or imagined wrongs. This seems to be escallating and none of our leaders look able to heal it. Not Trump not Clinton. No one.

    It reminds me of Yeats "Second Coming" poem.

  23. One thing’s for sure: we won’t find any of the snipers in the book depository.

    • Agree: International Jew
  24. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    Wouldn’t hurt to see an extensive op by you on the matter, admittedly.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @pink_point

    Unfortunately, I don't think I have much to add to the discussion beyond what I put into this long article a few years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/article/race-and-crime-in-america/

  25. @candid_observer
    I find myself wondering, among other things, about who, exactly, made this happen.

    You're talking about two people acting in concert with assault rifles, and apparently at some distance and elevation. And they were able to escape, apparently. That's more organized than your average fringe.

    I wonder if it wasn't some group like the thugs who attacked the "neo-Nazis" in Sacramento, who had been preparing for violence for some time.

    Replies: @Paul Rise, @guest, @Curle, @Bill Jones

    No, it was not like Sacramento. Their tactics were infantile. These snipers apparently knew what they were doing.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @guest

    My sense is that the group in Sacramento had a variety of people engaged in a variety of violent activities, and that it may have been a nationwide group. It certainly would be possible for them to have a few in their number adequately trained at sniping.

    But it may equally have been some other violent anarchist group, which seems the most plausible kind of culprit. And it wouldn't be surprising, as someone mentioned upthread, if they are white.

    Replies: @pink_point

    , @Boomstick
    @guest

    Yeah. It's not like shooting is especially difficult, but most knuckleheads of the type that would shoot at police wind up just blazing away without bothering to aim. The shooter(s) at this event seem more competent.

    Replies: @Paul Rise

  26. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    Exactly! And that was only the tip of the african spear. Lord how I despise all those who voted for that alien.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    How were Bush or McCain any better?

    Both parties are garbage. I'm thankful we finally have a potential president who wants to do what's right for this country. That means disowning both Democrats and Republicans, while pursuing a different path forward.

    As Trump said, "I'm running against both parties."

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...

  27. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon's America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @E. Harding, @JohnnyWalker123, @AndrewR, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

  28. It’s almost like having a President who tells violent thugs that they’re right to be aggrieved at the police has a deleterious effect on law and order

  29. @Boomstick
    @Daniel Williams

    Ultimately? I think they're aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they'll be sued into oblivion.

    They'll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    Replies: @guest, @AndrewR, @donut, @WhatEvvs

    On one hand, I see local cops afraid to pull people over or even talk to anyone who might be in a protected class. On the other hand, feds in control of policing at all levels nationwide might mean Wacos as far as the eye can see.

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @guest

    The folks killed at Waco, especially the children, weren't in a protected class.

  30. Trump needs to attend the funeral of the slain officers and visit the wounded in the hospital. After that he can stick a fork in Hillary.

  31. @OilcanFloyd
    A photo of a black suspect with a rifle is being shown. It will be interesting to see if any connection can be made between the shooters and the BLM organizers, if anyone is caught. Could they be so stupid?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It wasn’t that guy. There’s video of that guy walking down the street when the shots are fired.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Steve Sailer

    The guy in the photo turned himself in. Apparently not related to the shootings at all.

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Steve Sailer

    Am I mistaken, or was that guy carrying a rifle? It'll be interesting to see who the killers are, and if they have links to any organizations.

  32. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That's just stupid.

    , @Wilkey
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects."

    Worse? Not even close. I hate George W. Bush with the intensity of a thousand suns, but fraud, corruption, and abuse of power is an order of magnitude worse under Obama than it was under Bush.

    After the savings and loan scandal in the 1980s hundreds of bankers, including executives, went to jail for fraud. Not a single goddamned bank executive has been prosecuted for causing the 2007-08 crash.

    Replies: @pink_point, @JohnnyWalker123

  33. Jonathan Revusky announces that this is an obvious false flag operation in 3…2…1…

  34. @Steve Sailer
    @OilcanFloyd

    It wasn't that guy. There's video of that guy walking down the street when the shots are fired.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @OilcanFloyd

    The guy in the photo turned himself in. Apparently not related to the shootings at all.

  35. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Wilkey

    Exactly! And that was only the tip of the african spear. Lord how I despise all those who voted for that alien.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    How were Bush or McCain any better?

    Both parties are garbage. I’m thankful we finally have a potential president who wants to do what’s right for this country. That means disowning both Democrats and Republicans, while pursuing a different path forward.

    As Trump said, “I’m running against both parties.”

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Really? Who here has ever been B&C fans but to say they were worse. Wow. That was also 8 years ago pal. Why don't we discuss Lincoln also.

  36. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Wilkey

    That’s just stupid.

  37. Blacks or Helter Skelter leftists?

  38. This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @AKAHorace

    "This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account."

    Why should he? Hussein leaves office in a little over 6 months, he is not running for re-election. He has nothing to lose, so he is going to let White America know how he really feels about us, the gloves are off. It's time for the angry Mulatto to show his true colors.

    , @Anonymous
    @AKAHorace

    Ha ha ha! Surely you jest!

    At best we can expect condemnation of the violence with a stern reminder that our systemic racism drives people to commit these acts.

    Also, it may be Trump's fault

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @AKAHorace

    You're right, it would be. But what's in it for him? Obama decided long ago that he's not going to do ANYTHING that might tick off the brothers, for fear they might start calling him an Uncle Tom.

    , @AndrewR
    @AKAHorace

    Obama chose his path long ago, and it wasn't in favor of law and order or racial harmony.

    , @e
    @AKAHorace

    Two black guests on Fox last night called Obama the "Agitator-in-Chief." True, that.

  39. @Anonymous
    Dukakis still had a big lead in July. Hillary not so much. She's the dirtiest candidate in a long long time.

    Clintons are supposed to be such political geniuses but this past week was an EPIC FAIL.

    Trump wins a "chaos election" going away. Corruption loses to Law & Order.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    The polls show that Trump is more popular on national security issues. If Americans feel fear at home (from terrorist attacks and murders of police), that can only help Trump.

    Perhaps he sees a bump in the polls within the next few days.

    It’ll be interesting to see if Hillary’s multiracial coalition begins to bicker, creating disenchantment among whites.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They are all too cowed by fear of being called racist to do anything, the tail wags the dog, err, donkey. CNN is already trying to blame concealed carry for the shootings. That is the difference between now and 1968, the media may have been liberal, but they weren't actively trying to spin the news the way Democrats wanted them back then, today they are. They really have been doing this actively in every Presidential election since 1992, that's why Trump got no traction with voters on his Muslim ban after the Orlando massacre, the media made it about "assault weapons" not terrorism and people followed their lead.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @Harry Baldwin

  40. @guest
    @candid_observer

    No, it was not like Sacramento. Their tactics were infantile. These snipers apparently knew what they were doing.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Boomstick

    My sense is that the group in Sacramento had a variety of people engaged in a variety of violent activities, and that it may have been a nationwide group. It certainly would be possible for them to have a few in their number adequately trained at sniping.

    But it may equally have been some other violent anarchist group, which seems the most plausible kind of culprit. And it wouldn’t be surprising, as someone mentioned upthread, if they are white.

    • Replies: @pink_point
    @candid_observer

    I think what we ought to consider is cui prodest?, and frankly I wouldn't know how to give an answer to that.

  41. @guest
    @candid_observer

    No, it was not like Sacramento. Their tactics were infantile. These snipers apparently knew what they were doing.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Boomstick

    Yeah. It’s not like shooting is especially difficult, but most knuckleheads of the type that would shoot at police wind up just blazing away without bothering to aim. The shooter(s) at this event seem more competent.

    • Replies: @Paul Rise
    @Boomstick

    Recent video of the body armor clad shooter exchanging fire with police are very Daesh-y.

    Replies: @sanjoaquinsam

  42. “civil rights” just stands for “nuthing left to lose”

  43. @Boomstick
    @guest

    Yeah. It's not like shooting is especially difficult, but most knuckleheads of the type that would shoot at police wind up just blazing away without bothering to aim. The shooter(s) at this event seem more competent.

    Replies: @Paul Rise

    Recent video of the body armor clad shooter exchanging fire with police are very Daesh-y.

    • Replies: @sanjoaquinsam
    @Paul Rise

    I agree. Moved too well for a common street goon, held the rifle properly as well.

  44. @JohnnyWalker123
    @The preferred nomenclature is...

    How were Bush or McCain any better?

    Both parties are garbage. I'm thankful we finally have a potential president who wants to do what's right for this country. That means disowning both Democrats and Republicans, while pursuing a different path forward.

    As Trump said, "I'm running against both parties."

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Really? Who here has ever been B&C fans but to say they were worse. Wow. That was also 8 years ago pal. Why don’t we discuss Lincoln also.

  45. @candid_observer
    @guest

    My sense is that the group in Sacramento had a variety of people engaged in a variety of violent activities, and that it may have been a nationwide group. It certainly would be possible for them to have a few in their number adequately trained at sniping.

    But it may equally have been some other violent anarchist group, which seems the most plausible kind of culprit. And it wouldn't be surprising, as someone mentioned upthread, if they are white.

    Replies: @pink_point

    I think what we ought to consider is cui prodest?, and frankly I wouldn’t know how to give an answer to that.

  46. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anon

    I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump's benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the "silent majority."

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon’s America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    • Replies: @E. Harding
    @Jefferson

    The only states that have ceased to be available to Republicans for a generation as a result of Hispanic immigration are New Mexico, California, and Nevada.

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    These days, Democrats are far more hostile to Whites than back in the 60s. Back then, there were still lots of guido ethnics, blue collar hardhats, and southern "good ole boys" in the party. Not as much these days. Trump should be able to do relatively better with white voters in this more polarized electorate.

    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right. Reagan won 66% of the white vote in 1984. Nixon got 68% of the white vote in 1972.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Wency

    , @AndrewR
    @Jefferson

    You're assuming that the fundamental racial divide in the US is "white" vs "non-white."

    The Dems certainly try to frame it so but in reality the divide is black vs nonblack.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    @Jefferson

    At a bar in NC, just had a black guy tell off his white female friend saying that he's going to vote for Trump because "at least he's a patriot"

    Shocked but excited

  47. It will be interesting to see how NBC Nightly News handles this tonight. The last two nights they have started off the program with the shooting deaths of the two black individuals by cops in Louisiana and Minnesota, about 10 minutes for each segment. I wonder if President Obama will have any words of wisdom for the nation about this matter.

  48. @Paul Rise
    @Boomstick

    Recent video of the body armor clad shooter exchanging fire with police are very Daesh-y.

    Replies: @sanjoaquinsam

    I agree. Moved too well for a common street goon, held the rifle properly as well.

  49. @Kylie
    Can't wait to hear the post-racial POTUS express his sincere sympathy for and solidarity with the fallen cops and their families.

    Not that I'm holding my breath, you understand.

    Replies: @Curle

    Funny how the name Bill Ayers doesn’t come up in these instances. But it should . . .

    • Agree: Kylie, TWS
  50. Imaging being a cop nowadays. You have good reason to be more cautions than ever, now that there have been repeated incidences of cops being assassinated in cold blood (NYC, Dallas, am I missing any)? In the meantime, the federal government is breathing down your neck and your career could be ruined if you are involved in an incident with a minority.

    The rational reaction is simply to spend your shift in the donut shop and look the other way.

    I expect the crime rate to accelerate even more than we’ve seen in the past year. And I fully expect this will get blamed on “white supremacy” as well. (It will be white privilege to live in a safe neighborhood.)

    • Replies: @pink_point
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Well, the federal government is fixing housing into fairness too, in facts.

    , @CJ
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Even before this there were increasing signs of low morale and difficulty recruiting quality personnel for many urban police departments. From a May 2 news report:

    Dallas, Houston Losing Police Officers Over Pay, Morale Issues

    Assassinations of police officers appear to me to have increased around the country since Obama took office. Some of them are detailed in this Wikipedia article about four Washington State officers killed by a career criminal who once had felony convictions commuted by Mike Huckabee:

    Lakewood, Washington police officer shooting


    On Sunday, November 29, 2009, four Lakewood, Washington police officers were murdered at the former Forza Coffee Co. coffee shop, which was located at 11401 Steele Street South in the Parkland unincorporated area of Pierce County, Washington. One gunman, later identified as Maurice Clemmons, entered the coffee shop, fired at the officers as they sat working on their laptop computers preparing for their shifts, and then fled the scene.[1][2] After a two-day manhunt that spanned several cities in the Puget Sound region, the gunman was shot and killed by a Seattle Police Department officer in south Seattle after refusing orders to stop.[3]

    The shooting is believed to have been a targeted attack against police officers, and came less than a month after the murder of Seattle police officer Timothy Brenton under similar circumstances nearly 40 miles (64 km) to the north. Another shooting involving Pierce County sheriff's deputies occurred three weeks after in Eatonville, on December 21, when two deputies were shot and critically injured (one later died from his injuries) by a man, who was then shot dead.[4] It is believed to be the most deadly attack on law enforcement in the state of Washington, and the deadliest attack on law enforcement in the United States since the March 21, 2009 shootings that left four Oakland, California police officers dead.[5] The four were the first Lakewood police officers to be killed in the line of duty since the department's establishment in 2004.

    Although the gunman was killed by police, six other people were charged in connection with the murders. All six are friends and family of Clemmons who aided him in escaping the scene and eluding capture. One was convicted in June 2010 and was sentenced to five years' imprisonment. In December 2010, three of four accused suspects were found guilty of rendering criminal assistance.[6]

    In May 2011, Darcus Allen, the getaway driver and remaining suspect, was convicted of four counts of murder and sentenced to 420 years in prison the following month.[7]
     
    IMO it wouldn't be a surprise if tonight's killings were the work of hard left or anarchist fanatics. There are networks of them throughout the country, but particularly in California, that the last three D.C. administrations seem to have ignored.

    Replies: @TWS

  51. @AKAHorace
    This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @AndrewR, @e

    “This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.”

    Why should he? Hussein leaves office in a little over 6 months, he is not running for re-election. He has nothing to lose, so he is going to let White America know how he really feels about us, the gloves are off. It’s time for the angry Mulatto to show his true colors.

  52. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    The polls show that Trump is more popular on national security issues. If Americans feel fear at home (from terrorist attacks and murders of police), that can only help Trump.

    Perhaps he sees a bump in the polls within the next few days.

    It'll be interesting to see if Hillary's multiracial coalition begins to bicker, creating disenchantment among whites.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    They are all too cowed by fear of being called racist to do anything, the tail wags the dog, err, donkey. CNN is already trying to blame concealed carry for the shootings. That is the difference between now and 1968, the media may have been liberal, but they weren’t actively trying to spin the news the way Democrats wanted them back then, today they are. They really have been doing this actively in every Presidential election since 1992, that’s why Trump got no traction with voters on his Muslim ban after the Orlando massacre, the media made it about “assault weapons” not terrorism and people followed their lead.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Unladen Swallow

    Concealed carry? Is CNN really trying to blame sniper killings on pistols? How many people carry rifles concealed?

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Unladen Swallow

    the media may have been liberal, but they weren’t actively trying to spin the news

    They were and Spiro Agnew pointed it out. However, in the absence of alternative media--talk radio, the web--you had to be pretty politically involved to be aware of the extent of the problem. In the 1980s I subscribed to Reed Irvine's "Accuracy in Media" newsletter, which featured obvious examples of media bias.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

  53. @AKAHorace
    This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @AndrewR, @e

    Ha ha ha! Surely you jest!

    At best we can expect condemnation of the violence with a stern reminder that our systemic racism drives people to commit these acts.

    Also, it may be Trump’s fault

  54. The video they’re showing on cnn looks like the video game grand theft auto.

  55. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Wilkey

    “To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects.”

    Worse? Not even close. I hate George W. Bush with the intensity of a thousand suns, but fraud, corruption, and abuse of power is an order of magnitude worse under Obama than it was under Bush.

    After the savings and loan scandal in the 1980s hundreds of bankers, including executives, went to jail for fraud. Not a single goddamned bank executive has been prosecuted for causing the 2007-08 crash.

    • Replies: @pink_point
    @Wilkey

    That's unrelated to which candidate/party gets elected/wins. Politics are only one of the powers, not the power any longer.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    That's a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don't want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @gruff, @Harry Baldwin, @Hunsdon, @Bill Jones

  56. @candid_observer
    I find myself wondering, among other things, about who, exactly, made this happen.

    You're talking about two people acting in concert with assault rifles, and apparently at some distance and elevation. And they were able to escape, apparently. That's more organized than your average fringe.

    I wonder if it wasn't some group like the thugs who attacked the "neo-Nazis" in Sacramento, who had been preparing for violence for some time.

    Replies: @Paul Rise, @guest, @Curle, @Bill Jones

    Who made this happen? I predict the culture of hate is fingered. Maybe even those running for office who have been stoking a culture of hate. Actual alignments or political positions or persons committing the deed matter no more than they did when a communist shot JFK and the culture of violence in Dallas was fingered as the culprit. Our entire media culture is built on lies and evasions. Expect the normal procedures to go into high gear.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Curle

    The shooters used AR-15s, so it'll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems - see Orlando.

    Replies: @RobinG, @Anonymous

    , @candid_observer
    @Curle

    I think it's going to make a lot of difference who the people were who did this, and what their motivations were. Whether they were BLM (whatever that means) or some far left anarchist group killing cops in sympathy with BLM is probably not going to matter much politically. Obviously, if it is some other kind of group, or other set of motivations, it will, but I don't see that to be very likely. You really have to be willing to throw your own life away to do something like this, and I can see a couple of people, each filled with rage over the killing of Blacks, choosing to do it, but not two people who just share some nutty ideology.

    Maybe the Dems didn't get much punishment electorally over Orlando, but there's a crucial difference. They couldn't be see as actually encouraging the anger that motivated Orlando. Their policies were of course the opposite of protective, but they didn't play an active part in making it happen. In this case, assuming it's someone sympathetic with BLM who has perpetrated the murders, both Obama and Hillary can be said to have fostered the anger. They bear direct responsibility. That's a very important difference, politically.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Curle

    I think the phrase is "round up the usual suspects"...

  57. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon's America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @E. Harding, @JohnnyWalker123, @AndrewR, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    The only states that have ceased to be available to Republicans for a generation as a result of Hispanic immigration are New Mexico, California, and Nevada.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @E. Harding

    Also New York/New Jersey if we're counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Sutton

  58. @Curle
    @candid_observer

    Who made this happen? I predict the culture of hate is fingered. Maybe even those running for office who have been stoking a culture of hate. Actual alignments or political positions or persons committing the deed matter no more than they did when a communist shot JFK and the culture of violence in Dallas was fingered as the culprit. Our entire media culture is built on lies and evasions. Expect the normal procedures to go into high gear.

    Replies: @snorlax, @candid_observer, @Chrisnonymous

    The shooters used AR-15s, so it’ll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems – see Orlando.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    @snorlax


    "The shooters used AR-15s, so it’ll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems.."
     
    So why don't they use it? Instead, the idiot Dems are pushing "No Fly, No Buy" which would deny gun rights based on secret FBI lists. Outrageous precedent. What will be next? Anti-BDS laws in NY, etc., point to denial of Free Speech. Will I lose my internet access for criticizing Israel?
    , @Anonymous
    @snorlax

    By 2025/2030 you will lose your citizenship for not worshipping Israel, if current trends continue.

  59. Steve,

    The perpetrators were probably White cucks, or at least one of them was.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Link?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  60. @E. Harding
    @Jefferson

    The only states that have ceased to be available to Republicans for a generation as a result of Hispanic immigration are New Mexico, California, and Nevada.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Also New York/New Jersey if we’re counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @snorlax

    "Also New York/New Jersey if we’re counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long."

    Are there enough White voters in Nevada who hate Hildabeast enough to help Donald Trump win the state? Especially in the large population centers of Las Vegas and Reno.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    , @Sutton
    @snorlax

    All citizenship granted since the '92 should be cancelled.

    Replies: @snorlax

  61. @Anonymous
    There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn't get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in "the community" because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Erik Sieven, @Hacienda

    “There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn’t get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in “the community” because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality.”

    I remember reading about how Whitewashed Black males who do not behave stereotypically mah dick dindu nuffin have a hard time getting laid in the African American community because they are seen as too soft by most of the Sistas.

    So they have to either date outside of their race or find a Black woman who is part of the talented tenth, who does not behave like a Shaniqua.

  62. This reminds me of Predator 2. That movie doesn’t get a lot of respect, but it sure had our multicultural future of black and central/south American tribal violence well predicted. When I was a kid, I thought it was unrealistic but entertaining Hollywood entertainment, not a prediction of the future. 1990! – that’s 26 years ago.

    Interestingly enough, the director was born in Jamaica.

    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    @Anonym

    Yes! Predator 2 is quite a vicious sequel with some nasty black villains.

    I also think the shooters will turn out to be leftist antifa types. You know, the ones you see at protests with bandanas around their faces. Then again, the sniper angle reminds me of the black serial killer John Lee Muhammed.

  63. I don’t think Obama’s speech was helpful, but, to be honest, this didn’t require much stoking.

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    This is different from Ferguson, more organic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @guest
    @Dave Pinsen

    Obama didn't have much to do with it, you're right. But this isn't "organic." BLM and related movements are bound to come across real wrongs every now and then. But that's no reason for riots and assassinations. White people are killed by cops every day and we don't take to the streets. Whites shooting blacks, cop or wanna-be cop in Zimmerman's case, haven't necessarily instigated uprisings, either. Usually there must be another factor, such as cover-ups and "white-washes." Those are absent in this case.

    So why the uprising? Why, when the Establishment already has snapped into action and these cops are probably doomed, or at least the MN one? There's no indication that justice won't be served. Why the BLM frontlash? Because they've been pre-stoked. Obama plays a part in that, because he always blames cops first and sympathizes with His People (or the half of his people he identifies with). But it's much, much more the MSM's fault. It's like they want a race war.

    This has been four years of black stoking. Ever since St. Trayvon, especially in the summer, the MSM and professional protest organizers prime the pump of black and black-friendly unrest. They're so primed, so stoked, that they don't need central prompting. I guess you can call that organic, but organic crops are raised by farmers, after all. The MSM and professional rabble-rousers are agriculturalists, and black rioters are their crops. There's been a fine yield the past few years. They don't need actual injustice, but it helps to have it.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

  64. This is very bad for Hillary.

    BLM’s model is the intifada. I wrote something about this a couple of hours before the sniper attack, because I had a bad feeling. 11 cops shot a few hours after BHO said the police shootings weren’t isolated incidents was just more bad timing from this increasingly clumsy admin.

    http://www.newyorkace.net/the-convergence-political-islam-seeks-to-merge-with-black-lives-matter-shriektavists/

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    BLM’s model is the intifada.
     
    Obviously I'm not the first to point out how this is good for Trump but the second intifada eviscerated Israeli support for the left.
    Since the intifada elections were won by Sharon, Sharon (through his successor after he had a stroke just before voting day), Netanyahu, Netanyahu
    , @rod1963
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Neither Obama or Hillary or any Democratic doyen can now condemn BLM. They are now joined at the hips.

    If they condemn BLM the democrats lose the black and liberal white vote. If they let the BLM do as they please they risk more police and probably civilians being murdered by them which drives more whites to Trump.

  65. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.”

    1967 Detroit riot (aka, the 1967 Detroit race riot):

    “…began on a Saturday night in the early morning hours of July 23, 1967… police raid of an unlicensed, after-hours bar… evolved into one of the deadliest and most destructive riots in the history of the United States, lasting five days and surpassing the violence and property destruction of Detroit’s 1943 race riot…

    …The result was 43 dead, 1,189 injured, over 7,200 arrests, and more than 2,000 buildings destroyed…

    …crimes reported to police included looting, arson, and sniping… There was significant white participation in the rioting and looting, raising questions as to whether the event fits into the classical race riot category.

    Although only 26 of the over 7,000 arrests involved snipers, and not one person accused of sniping was successfully prosecuted…

    …In Detroit, an estimated 10,000 people participated in the riots, with an estimated 100,000 gathering to watch. Thirty-six hours later, 43 were dead, 33 of whom were black and 10 white. More than 7,200 people were arrested, most of them black.

    …17 of the black victims were shot by white police officers…

    …many African-American residents were dissatisfied with social conditions in Detroit before July 23, 1967 and believed that progress was too slow. After the riot, the Kerner Commission reported that their survey of blacks in Detroit found that none were “happy” about conditions in the city prior to the event. The areas of discrimination identified by Fine were: policing, housing, employment, spatial segregation within the city, mistreatment by merchants, shortage of recreational facilities, poor quality of public education, access to medical services, and “the way the war on poverty operated in Detroit.”…”

  66. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    The perpetrators were probably White cucks, or at least one of them was.

    Replies: @snorlax

    Link?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @snorlax

    I have no specific link. My basis for the assertion is (1) insight into the puritanical (for want of a better word), self-righteous, virtue signaling mind of the White cuck, (2) the kind of operation this was, and (3) observation of video of a person at ground level rapidly moving toward someone and shooting them behind a pillar (no skin color apparent, but quick movement consistent with White.

    Replies: @timothy

  67. Hepp says:
    @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I’m calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it’s going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It’ll backfire on them badly.

    This isn’t Nixon’s America anymore. We’re becoming like Sweden or France, where the majority of whites are too blind to be woken up by anything.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @Hepp

    You assume that white blindness will continue.

    Times are a changin'.
    I sense the left knows that, hence their increasingly irrational behavior.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Hepp

    That's what this election will determine -- how many real Americans are left.

    For the first time in a long time, we have "A Choice, Not An Echo", and the results will truly matter.

    Personally, I think that Admiral Yamamoto's "sleeping giant" now has one eye open...but I'm an incurable optimist.

  68. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz 🙂 Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Clyde



    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.
     
    Actually, I think a number of police officers may have been assassinated by the Black Panthers in Oakland back then, and probably some others around the country. But nothing like so many at one time by this planned sniper attack. And even during the huge, deadly riots around the country, there weren't any deadly sniper ambushes like this.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Harry Baldwin, @Jefferson

  69. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Imaging being a cop nowadays. You have good reason to be more cautions than ever, now that there have been repeated incidences of cops being assassinated in cold blood (NYC, Dallas, am I missing any)? In the meantime, the federal government is breathing down your neck and your career could be ruined if you are involved in an incident with a minority.

    The rational reaction is simply to spend your shift in the donut shop and look the other way.

    I expect the crime rate to accelerate even more than we've seen in the past year. And I fully expect this will get blamed on "white supremacy" as well. (It will be white privilege to live in a safe neighborhood.)

    Replies: @pink_point, @CJ

    Well, the federal government is fixing housing into fairness too, in facts.

  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think Obama's speech was helpful, but, to be honest, this didn't require much stoking.

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    This is different from Ferguson, more organic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Sterling was pinned down on his belly by two cops when he was shot, multiple times.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @rod1963

  71. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think Obama's speech was helpful, but, to be honest, this didn't require much stoking.

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    This is different from Ferguson, more organic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Lots of whites get shot by cops too. For example, 550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year. Per capita, that's an 90x difference.

    That has nothing to do with White-Americans being more dangerous. White-Americans are no more likely to kill a cop than Britons. So this huge disparity in police killings isn't about American police being in more danger than British police.

    People ask why the cops kill so many blacks.

    I ask: Why do the cops kill so many White-Americans?

    Are White-Americans 90x more likely to deserve being shot than a Briton?

    Replies: @CJ, @Daniel Williams

  72. A problem with the Democrats’ high-low coalition of the fringes is that the fringes are awfully fringy. Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know that.

    They are too stupid to know that it can come down to four cops being murdered. They are little children playing with matches.

  73. @Wilkey
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects."

    Worse? Not even close. I hate George W. Bush with the intensity of a thousand suns, but fraud, corruption, and abuse of power is an order of magnitude worse under Obama than it was under Bush.

    After the savings and loan scandal in the 1980s hundreds of bankers, including executives, went to jail for fraud. Not a single goddamned bank executive has been prosecuted for causing the 2007-08 crash.

    Replies: @pink_point, @JohnnyWalker123

    That’s unrelated to which candidate/party gets elected/wins. Politics are only one of the powers, not the power any longer.

  74. Those John Birch Republicans in the Deep South/Dallas are now getting cops killed just like they done President Kennedy… Until it accepts anti-extremism safeguards Texas needs to be barred from the next 2 or possibly 3 electoral college tallies

    • Replies: @Brohemius
    @liberal

    I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!

    Replies: @Jefferson

  75. There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    • Replies: @pink_point
    @Jefferson

    And you haven't realized yet "polls" are distorted to influence perception?

    , @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Because Blacks see Whites (and consequently White "power") as the greatest threat due to a combination of reasons. First, Whites are in fact very talented. Subordinating Whites therefore opens up more space for Blacks to be competitive and successful (not only AA). Second, in part due to this talent and in part due to (((media and film))) propaganda, Blacks fear organized self-conscious Whites on a physical level. They are also concerned they might be sent to Africa.

    It is also because Black males want access to White women, which the now enjoy. If Whites were to ever regain power, they would restrict Black make access to White women.

    Replies: @Luke Lea

    , @Andrew
    @Jefferson

    "Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?"

    African-Americans stick together. Since your skin is your uniform, they are all in it together. They'll still be in it together when we are ruled by Hispanics or Muslims.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jefferson

    There is no such poll.

  76. The Dallas Snipers hockey team are going to have to change their name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_States_Hockey_League

    • Replies: @CJ
    @gruff

    The Dallas Snipers hockey team are going to have to change their name.

    Not much flabbergasts me anymore, but that does. It really is astonishing, given the events of November 1963, that they ever could have been so named.

    Replies: @gruff

  77. @Anonym
    This reminds me of Predator 2. That movie doesn't get a lot of respect, but it sure had our multicultural future of black and central/south American tribal violence well predicted. When I was a kid, I thought it was unrealistic but entertaining Hollywood entertainment, not a prediction of the future. 1990! - that's 26 years ago.

    Interestingly enough, the director was born in Jamaica.

    Replies: @Cryptogenic

    Yes! Predator 2 is quite a vicious sequel with some nasty black villains.

    I also think the shooters will turn out to be leftist antifa types. You know, the ones you see at protests with bandanas around their faces. Then again, the sniper angle reminds me of the black serial killer John Lee Muhammed.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax
    @Anonymous

    Link?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I have no specific link. My basis for the assertion is (1) insight into the puritanical (for want of a better word), self-righteous, virtue signaling mind of the White cuck, (2) the kind of operation this was, and (3) observation of video of a person at ground level rapidly moving toward someone and shooting them behind a pillar (no skin color apparent, but quick movement consistent with White.

    • Replies: @timothy
    @Anonymous

    "quick movement consistent with White."

    lol wat

    Replies: @Anonymous

  79. JimB says:
    @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Also, a lot of black political clout comes from those nice church ladies who rely on cops to patrol their neighborhoods while they go out to vote. If they don’t feel safe going out because the local murder rate has increased 63%, because BLM discouraged cops from patrolling proactively, they may be less inclined to vote.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @JimB

    Also, a lot of black political clout comes from those nice church ladies who rely on cops to patrol their neighborhoods while they go out to vote. If they don’t feel safe going out because the local murder rate has increased 63%, because BLM discouraged cops from patrolling proactively, they may be less inclined to vote."

    A disproportionate number of senior citizen Black church ladies have grandsons who gangbang, so they are going to be anti-police as well. Not many of them are pro-police.

  80. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “…

    1967 Detroit riot (aka, the 1967 Detroit race riot):”

    And, as always, repercussions, some very much still with us:

    …the most significant black politician to take power in the shift from a white majority city to a black majority city, Coleman Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, wrote in 1994:

    The heaviest casualty, however, was the city. Detroit’s losses went a hell of a lot deeper than the immediate toll of lives and buildings. The riot put Detroit on the fast track to economic desolation, mugging the city and making off with incalculable value in jobs, earnings taxes, corporate taxes, retail dollars, sales taxes, mortgages, interest, property taxes, development dollars, investment dollars, tourism dollars, and plain damn money. The money was carried out in the pockets of the businesses and the white people who fled as fast as they could.

  81. CJ says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Imaging being a cop nowadays. You have good reason to be more cautions than ever, now that there have been repeated incidences of cops being assassinated in cold blood (NYC, Dallas, am I missing any)? In the meantime, the federal government is breathing down your neck and your career could be ruined if you are involved in an incident with a minority.

    The rational reaction is simply to spend your shift in the donut shop and look the other way.

    I expect the crime rate to accelerate even more than we've seen in the past year. And I fully expect this will get blamed on "white supremacy" as well. (It will be white privilege to live in a safe neighborhood.)

    Replies: @pink_point, @CJ

    Even before this there were increasing signs of low morale and difficulty recruiting quality personnel for many urban police departments. From a May 2 news report:

    Dallas, Houston Losing Police Officers Over Pay, Morale Issues

    Assassinations of police officers appear to me to have increased around the country since Obama took office. Some of them are detailed in this Wikipedia article about four Washington State officers killed by a career criminal who once had felony convictions commuted by Mike Huckabee:

    Lakewood, Washington police officer shooting

    On Sunday, November 29, 2009, four Lakewood, Washington police officers were murdered at the former Forza Coffee Co. coffee shop, which was located at 11401 Steele Street South in the Parkland unincorporated area of Pierce County, Washington. One gunman, later identified as Maurice Clemmons, entered the coffee shop, fired at the officers as they sat working on their laptop computers preparing for their shifts, and then fled the scene.[1][2] After a two-day manhunt that spanned several cities in the Puget Sound region, the gunman was shot and killed by a Seattle Police Department officer in south Seattle after refusing orders to stop.[3]

    The shooting is believed to have been a targeted attack against police officers, and came less than a month after the murder of Seattle police officer Timothy Brenton under similar circumstances nearly 40 miles (64 km) to the north. Another shooting involving Pierce County sheriff’s deputies occurred three weeks after in Eatonville, on December 21, when two deputies were shot and critically injured (one later died from his injuries) by a man, who was then shot dead.[4] It is believed to be the most deadly attack on law enforcement in the state of Washington, and the deadliest attack on law enforcement in the United States since the March 21, 2009 shootings that left four Oakland, California police officers dead.[5] The four were the first Lakewood police officers to be killed in the line of duty since the department’s establishment in 2004.

    Although the gunman was killed by police, six other people were charged in connection with the murders. All six are friends and family of Clemmons who aided him in escaping the scene and eluding capture. One was convicted in June 2010 and was sentenced to five years’ imprisonment. In December 2010, three of four accused suspects were found guilty of rendering criminal assistance.[6]

    In May 2011, Darcus Allen, the getaway driver and remaining suspect, was convicted of four counts of murder and sentenced to 420 years in prison the following month.[7]

    IMO it wouldn’t be a surprise if tonight’s killings were the work of hard left or anarchist fanatics. There are networks of them throughout the country, but particularly in California, that the last three D.C. administrations seem to have ignored.

    • Replies: @TWS
    @CJ

    That case was even worse than it looks. Two entire extended families knew where the murder was and covered for him as he traveled.

    The black community will make these men heroes and if they had gotten away they would have covered for them.

  82. Can anyone from Dallas let us know if your police chief is the real deal, or he is another Chief Moose? I just saw him on tv, and my first impression wasn’t good.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @iSteveFan


    Can anyone from Dallas let us know if your police chief is the real deal, or he is another Chief Moose? I just saw him on tv, and my first impression wasn’t good.
     
    Looks like ye classic black empty suit figurehead/totem to me. Moose set the standard for these shenanigans level appointments. The moose is loose!
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @iSteveFan

    David Brown is an unqualified affirmative action hire.

    Several years ago, the deputy chief of police in Dallas ordered his officers to provide a police escort for a cop killer's funeral procession, "out of respect for the chief."

    Why? Because the cop killer was Chief David Brown's son.

    http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2010/06/the-virulent-eruption-surround.html/

    , @Marc
    @iSteveFan

    He does not have a great track record in Dallas from what I've seen:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20100626-Escort-for-killer-s-funeral-procession-1140.ece

    Most big city police chiefs are chosen from pool of national talent receiving the blessing of the Feds, not someone from the rank and file who has moved up through the local ranks. It's a clever way to federalize local police forces though the back door.

  83. @snorlax
    @E. Harding

    Also New York/New Jersey if we're counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Sutton

    “Also New York/New Jersey if we’re counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long.”

    Are there enough White voters in Nevada who hate Hildabeast enough to help Donald Trump win the state? Especially in the large population centers of Las Vegas and Reno.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @Jefferson

    In 2010 Harry Reid lost the Anglo vote but won the election. I say Nevada is too far gone.

  84. @Jefferson
    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Replies: @pink_point, @Anonymous, @Andrew, @RadicalCenter

    And you haven’t realized yet “polls” are distorted to influence perception?

  85. @timothy
    More than 10. At least 4 dead. I wouldn't be surprised if white anarchist types were involved.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brohemius, @Big Bill

    Agree. See my comments above regarding the probable involvement of one or more White cucks.

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Anonymous

    I can't tell if he's wearing a mask but it looks like at least one of the attackers is a dindu:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlTGM66ECWM

  86. @Curle
    @candid_observer

    Who made this happen? I predict the culture of hate is fingered. Maybe even those running for office who have been stoking a culture of hate. Actual alignments or political positions or persons committing the deed matter no more than they did when a communist shot JFK and the culture of violence in Dallas was fingered as the culprit. Our entire media culture is built on lies and evasions. Expect the normal procedures to go into high gear.

    Replies: @snorlax, @candid_observer, @Chrisnonymous

    I think it’s going to make a lot of difference who the people were who did this, and what their motivations were. Whether they were BLM (whatever that means) or some far left anarchist group killing cops in sympathy with BLM is probably not going to matter much politically. Obviously, if it is some other kind of group, or other set of motivations, it will, but I don’t see that to be very likely. You really have to be willing to throw your own life away to do something like this, and I can see a couple of people, each filled with rage over the killing of Blacks, choosing to do it, but not two people who just share some nutty ideology.

    Maybe the Dems didn’t get much punishment electorally over Orlando, but there’s a crucial difference. They couldn’t be see as actually encouraging the anger that motivated Orlando. Their policies were of course the opposite of protective, but they didn’t play an active part in making it happen. In this case, assuming it’s someone sympathetic with BLM who has perpetrated the murders, both Obama and Hillary can be said to have fostered the anger. They bear direct responsibility. That’s a very important difference, politically.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @candid_observer


    Maybe the Dems didn’t get much punishment electorally over Orlando, but there’s a crucial difference. They couldn’t be see as actually encouraging the anger that motivated Orlando. Their policies were of course the opposite of protective, but they didn’t play an active part in making it happen. In this case, assuming it’s someone sympathetic with BLM who has perpetrated the murders, both Obama and Hillary can be said to have fostered the anger. They bear direct responsibility. That’s a very important difference, politically.
     
    Candid this is an excellent paragraph of argument. And i hope you're right that that sort of thought at least vaguely flutters through the brains of some white (and even Asian and "Hispanic" and middle class black) "independent" voters.

    But honestly i look out on world full of disgusting privileged and full of themselves race-traitor white women and cucks.... and i'm not even sure it's possible.

    Obama can ship black dysfunction into a white town--say Dubuque--with one hand, then turn on the racial mau-mauing when the inevitable black misbehavior results in some cop-creep confrontations and shooting ... and still these white people sit around thinking their nice white people thoughts.
  87. “Yes! Predator 2 is quite a vicious sequel with some nasty black villains.”

    They were into voodoo even they were suppose to be Jamaicans and not Haitians. I wonder what percentage of Jamaicans practice voodoo? Also I wonder why voodoo never really caught on with African Americans outside of a few exceptions in Louisiana.

  88. One fanatic backed into a corner, spouting nonsense. 3 others in custody, including a woman. My guess is whatever is going on here theres one true believers and 3 scenesters, and possibly some of those mistaken arrests. I could be completely off base here but seems like a tendency for neonazis and white supremacists to be taken alive whereas Islamists martyr themselves.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Paul Rise

    What is a 'white supremacist'? How many of these 'white supremacists' have attacked the police recently?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Keith Vaz

  89. My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America. Maybe in our external wars like Iraq but doubtful. In the military whites will take sniper training, not blacks. Just going by the odds.

    • Replies: @Talha
    @Clyde

    What about John Allen Muhammad and his sidekick?

    Replies: @Clyde

    , @Big Bill
    @Clyde


    My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America.
     
    My bet is Democrats. Black or white, the shooters were Democrats.
    , @jill
    @Clyde

    The Beltway snipers were white?

  90. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This is very bad for Hillary.

    BLM's model is the intifada. I wrote something about this a couple of hours before the sniper attack, because I had a bad feeling. 11 cops shot a few hours after BHO said the police shootings weren't isolated incidents was just more bad timing from this increasingly clumsy admin.

    http://www.newyorkace.net/the-convergence-political-islam-seeks-to-merge-with-black-lives-matter-shriektavists/

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @rod1963

    BLM’s model is the intifada.

    Obviously I’m not the first to point out how this is good for Trump but the second intifada eviscerated Israeli support for the left.
    Since the intifada elections were won by Sharon, Sharon (through his successor after he had a stroke just before voting day), Netanyahu, Netanyahu

  91. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    1968 Chicago riots:

    “…The 1968 Chicago riots, in the U.S., were sparked in part by the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr… Violence and chaos followed, with blacks flooding out onto the streets of major cities. Soon riots began, primarily in black urban areas. Over 100 major U.S. cities experienced disturbances…

    …In Chicago, more than 48 hours of rioting left 11 Chicago citizens dead, 48 wounded by police gunfire, 90 policemen injured, and 2,150 people arrested…

    Two miles of Austin on West Madison Street were left in a state of rubble.

    …rioters broke windows, looted stores, and set buildings (both abandoned and occupied) on fire. Firefighters quickly flooded the neighborhood, and Chicago’s off-duty firefighters were told to report for duty. There were 36 major fires reported between 4:00 pm and 10:00 pm alone. The next day, Mayor Richard J. Daley imposed a curfew on anyone under the age of 21, closed the streets to automobile traffic, and halted the sale of guns or ammunition…

    …Approximately 10,500 police were sent in, and by April 6, more than 6,700 Illinois National Guard troops arrived in Chicago. President Lyndon B. Johnson also sent 5,000 troops from the 1st Armored and 5th Infantry Divisions into the city. The General in charge declared that no one was allowed to have gatherings in the riot areas, and he authorized the use of tear gas. Mayor Richard J. Daley gave police the authority “to shoot to kill any arsonist or anyone with a Molotov cocktail in his hand … and … to shoot to maim or cripple anyone looting any stores in our city.”…

    …south side ghetto had escaped the major chaos mainly because the two large street gangs, the Blackstone Rangers and the East Side Disciples, cooperated to control their neighborhoods.”

  92. @gruff
    The Dallas Snipers hockey team are going to have to change their name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_States_Hockey_League

    Replies: @CJ

    The Dallas Snipers hockey team are going to have to change their name.

    Not much flabbergasts me anymore, but that does. It really is astonishing, given the events of November 1963, that they ever could have been so named.

    • Replies: @gruff
    @CJ

    Time heals all wounds. And by time I mean vague amnesia.

  93. @iSteveFan
    Can anyone from Dallas let us know if your police chief is the real deal, or he is another Chief Moose? I just saw him on tv, and my first impression wasn't good.

    Replies: @Clyde, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Marc

    Can anyone from Dallas let us know if your police chief is the real deal, or he is another Chief Moose? I just saw him on tv, and my first impression wasn’t good.

    Looks like ye classic black empty suit figurehead/totem to me. Moose set the standard for these shenanigans level appointments. The moose is loose!

  94. @iSteveFan
    Can anyone from Dallas let us know if your police chief is the real deal, or he is another Chief Moose? I just saw him on tv, and my first impression wasn't good.

    Replies: @Clyde, @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @Marc

    David Brown is an unqualified affirmative action hire.

    Several years ago, the deputy chief of police in Dallas ordered his officers to provide a police escort for a cop killer’s funeral procession, “out of respect for the chief.”

    Why? Because the cop killer was Chief David Brown’s son.

    http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2010/06/the-virulent-eruption-surround.html/

  95. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon's America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @E. Harding, @JohnnyWalker123, @AndrewR, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    These days, Democrats are far more hostile to Whites than back in the 60s. Back then, there were still lots of guido ethnics, blue collar hardhats, and southern “good ole boys” in the party. Not as much these days. Trump should be able to do relatively better with white voters in this more polarized electorate.

    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right. Reagan won 66% of the white vote in 1984. Nixon got 68% of the white vote in 1972.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right.
     
    Problem is Trump needs 60% of the white vote just to win. Not a landslide or a "mandate", just to get the ball inches across the goal line.
    , @Wency
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Romney won 59% of the white vote and still lost by 4 points. He would have lost with 61%. With today's demographics, he would have lost by 5 points, all else equal.

    The stats you cite are from popular incumbents. You can't compare them to non-incumbents (let alone non-politicians). The last non-incumbent to beat Romney's share of the white vote was H.W. Bush in '88, with 60% (and he probably deserves a partial incumbency benefit). Before that, it might have been Eisenhower in '52, though his 55% probably included a significant black share. I'm inclined to think H.W. had the best white share since sometime in the Antebellum era.

    In other words, W., H.W., Reagan, and Nixon would have all lost under today's demographics.

    If turnout and the non-white vote were static relative to 2012, Trump would need to win 62% of the white vote for the election to be a toss-up, or 2-3 points more than any post-Civil War non-incumbent. Maybe it feels like that's happening to some people here, but I don't see it. I see a lot of lifelong Republicans defecting.

    Maybe black turnout suffers and drifts back towards 10% Republican, and white turnout improves, and therefore maybe the election is a toss-up at a nonetheless record-breaking 60-61% of the white vote. Of course, all the racist accusations against Trump might keep black turnout more or less the same, while the amateurness of the Trump campaign prevents the white vote from improving.

    In any case, it's a fair bet that Trump or any Republican will lose. There will not be another Republican president in the U.S. as currently constituted, at least not without some kind of total Democrat collapse, significantly worse than 1968, which Humphrey would have won handily with today's electorate.

    Every election, demographics give the Democrats another 1-2 points, so the magnitude of disaster that they can afford to preside over while retaining power is ever-expanding.

    This is not your country anymore, kids.

  96. @JimB
    @Anon

    Also, a lot of black political clout comes from those nice church ladies who rely on cops to patrol their neighborhoods while they go out to vote. If they don't feel safe going out because the local murder rate has increased 63%, because BLM discouraged cops from patrolling proactively, they may be less inclined to vote.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    Also, a lot of black political clout comes from those nice church ladies who rely on cops to patrol their neighborhoods while they go out to vote. If they don’t feel safe going out because the local murder rate has increased 63%, because BLM discouraged cops from patrolling proactively, they may be less inclined to vote.”

    A disproportionate number of senior citizen Black church ladies have grandsons who gangbang, so they are going to be anti-police as well. Not many of them are pro-police.

  97. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Replies: @pink_point, @Anonymous, @Andrew, @RadicalCenter

    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Because Blacks see Whites (and consequently White “power”) as the greatest threat due to a combination of reasons. First, Whites are in fact very talented. Subordinating Whites therefore opens up more space for Blacks to be competitive and successful (not only AA). Second, in part due to this talent and in part due to (((media and film))) propaganda, Blacks fear organized self-conscious Whites on a physical level. They are also concerned they might be sent to Africa.

    It is also because Black males want access to White women, which the now enjoy. If Whites were to ever regain power, they would restrict Black make access to White women.

    • Replies: @Luke Lea
    @Anonymous

    "There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump."

    Can you link? #TrumpChangeNotChumpChange

    Replies: @Jack D

  98. One strange detail to all of this. The chief of Dallas police, who has been giving press conferences on TV, has a deceased son who killed a police officer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brown_(police_officer)

  99. Obama’s statement over the MN shooting, and persistent silence about the 2000 shootings (so far this year) in Chicago by mostly black shooters, helped incite this massacre. MN’s governor also helped incite the Dallas massacre by saying that the MN shooting wouldn’t have happened if the civilians were white. Actually, this is probably true, since white civilians are more likely to maintain their composure when pulled over, and therefore, more likely to to follow the cops directives accurately. I was pulled over for speeding last year, and just told the cop about my Ruger LCP and my permit, and we were all cool.

    But ultimately, Trump will be blamed….somehow, someway.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @J1234

    Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Hunsdon

  100. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Lots of whites get shot by cops too. For example, 550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year. Per capita, that’s an 90x difference.

    That has nothing to do with White-Americans being more dangerous. White-Americans are no more likely to kill a cop than Britons. So this huge disparity in police killings isn’t about American police being in more danger than British police.

    People ask why the cops kill so many blacks.

    I ask: Why do the cops kill so many White-Americans?

    Are White-Americans 90x more likely to deserve being shot than a Briton?

    • Replies: @CJ
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The number seems way out of line to me too, although there may be a lot more "suicide by cop" in the U.S. than elsewhere. Some comparative international stats for you here.

    http://theindependent.ca/2015/04/14/stop-the-killing-fatal-police-shootings-in-canada/


    Total fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per year

    United States 930
    Canada 25
    Germany 8
    Australia 5
    United Kingdom 2
    Japan 0

    [..]

    Fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per million people

    United States 2.9
    Alberta 1.4
    Canada 0.7
    Ontario 0.6
    Nfld & Lab 0.3
    Australia 0.2
    Germany 0.1
    United Kingdom 0.04
    Japan 0.0

    [..]

    Number of homicides per 100,000 people per year

    United States 4.7
    Alberta 2.3
    Canada 1.6
    Ontario 1.3
    United Kingdom 1.0
    Australia 0.9
    Germany 0.8
    Nfld & Lab 0.7
    Japan 0.3
     

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Daniel Williams
    @JohnnyWalker123


    550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year.
     
    Dunno. Maybe British cops not carrying guns contributes in some small way?

    Replies: @Bill B.

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    With all due respect to obvious false flag operations & soldiers of fortune what is the likelihood of an ISIS-BLM team-up in the near future (including a symbiosis where BLM is the sea for the jihadfish to swim in)? We know from Mateen that born-again Muslims raised on an American media diet of blacks as the upper-shelf AAA-grade victims are under the impression of some solidarity with their transracial confreres. On the other hand Islamic prestige among blacks in N. America seems to be at a post-70s low. I think this is because blacks sense on a subconscious level that the decline of Christian pastoral authority hasn’t been as fun for them as it has been for whites, so they are suspicious of the top anti-Christian outfit making the scene. Look at how Obama reacted to Scott Walker declining to rate him Christian– You would think a globo-cultured academic-life Volvo driver like Obama would not automatically treat that as an insult. Obama is more ingrained with secularity and LGBT tolerance than any President ever but takes pains to affect an AME preacher tonality when he is participating in Civil Rights rituals. I think ISIS probably, like the rest of the world, looks on American blacks with more disgusted pity than true fellow-feeling. That doesn’t preclude them cynically lurking behind black populations which are both more strategically urban and far less scrutinized by the modern FBI-DHS-NSA-ATF than our comparatively tiny, concentrated Muslim populations full of goatherds who don’t speak English.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Anonymous


    what is the likelihood of an ISIS-BLM team-up in the near future
     
    Sundance (The Conservative Treehouse) has been predicting, and observing, this for upwards of four years now.
  102. Where’s Antony Karlin been? Maybe he’s been activated to do a false flag…

    But seriously, this seems like something a bit unrelated to BLM… I’m doubting the shooter is black as this is is coldly calculated… would a black person who wanted to attack cops do it at a BLM rally with a sniper rifle?… I don’t think so… I’m betting Arab or White dude.

    I’m also hearing reports that a sniper is alleging that there are bombs planted

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @blahblahblah

    "Where’s Antony Karlin been? Maybe he’s been activated to do a false flag…

    But seriously, this seems like something a bit unrelated to BLM… I’m doubting the shooter is black as this is is coldly calculated… would a black person who wanted to attack cops do it at a BLM rally with a sniper rifle?… I don’t think so… I’m betting Arab or White dude.

    I’m also hearing reports that a sniper is alleging that there are bombs planted"

    You forgot how cold & calculated the Negroes Christopher Dorner, The Death Angels, and The DC Snipers were.

    Not all violent Blacks are Boyz In Da Hood/Menace To Society types.

  103. @Anonymous
    @timothy

    Agree. See my comments above regarding the probable involvement of one or more White cucks.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    I can’t tell if he’s wearing a mask but it looks like at least one of the attackers is a dindu:

  104. @Anonymous
    @snorlax

    I have no specific link. My basis for the assertion is (1) insight into the puritanical (for want of a better word), self-righteous, virtue signaling mind of the White cuck, (2) the kind of operation this was, and (3) observation of video of a person at ground level rapidly moving toward someone and shooting them behind a pillar (no skin color apparent, but quick movement consistent with White.

    Replies: @timothy

    “quick movement consistent with White.”

    lol wat

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @timothy

    Yes, there is a certain kind of efficient quickness of movement that characterizes some Whites.

    I've reviewed the video, however, and based on body shape and certain other kinds of movements, I think the shooter could have been black.

    Replies: @anon

  105. JimB says:
    @Daniel Williams

    Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know know that.
     
    So what's the endgame? How will Hillary back these murderous blacks off once she wins the election? Or will we all just have to get used to unpolice-able myrmidions roaming the streets of every city larger than Redding?

    Replies: @Boomstick, @JimB, @Dr. X

    Well, I’m still waiting to find out if the snipers were Muslim. In any case, Hillary has no need to ask fringe militants to back off when she’s president. They are useful for intimidating the opposition. Just like the Hispanic thugs unleashed by BAMN on anyone who dares publicly support Trump.

  106. @Wilkey
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "To be fair, his predecessor was probably worse in most of those respects."

    Worse? Not even close. I hate George W. Bush with the intensity of a thousand suns, but fraud, corruption, and abuse of power is an order of magnitude worse under Obama than it was under Bush.

    After the savings and loan scandal in the 1980s hundreds of bankers, including executives, went to jail for fraud. Not a single goddamned bank executive has been prosecuted for causing the 2007-08 crash.

    Replies: @pink_point, @JohnnyWalker123

    That’s a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don’t want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    • Agree: Das
    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Bush II was a fool, no doubt about it. However, both Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd ( Dodd-Frank, sound familiar? ) were both wailing that Bush and the GOP were not gutting credit standards fast or completely enough for nearly the entirety of the subprime bubble ( And then blamed it all on the banks that Uncle Sam was carrot and sticking to lend to everyone with a pulse ) and then there was Bill Clinton and his hacks at the Boston Fed that got the whole subprime nonsense rolling in the first place with their fatally flawed Boston mortgage study early in Bill's first term. Now, Iraq, that was W's doing entirely, and that was also a big contributing factor to getting Barry Obama elected, which may be W's worst legacy of all.

    , @gruff
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I read freerepublic a lot back in the early and mid oughts. Massive traffic, everyone on Bush's jock, yammering away like the Iraq invasion was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    Replies: @Das

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I agree with all your indictments of "W" except for Katrina. That was a shocking example of how blacks behave without close adult supervision, and it so unhinged the narrative that a white scapegoat had to quickly be identified, and that was the president. The federal government handled Tropical Storm Sandy no better, but since it was so close to the 2012 election that media protected Obama. Frankly, the federal government is just not very good at handling emergencies like this whoever is in charge.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Hunsdon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Lately we've been critical of Obama for the simple reason that Obama is president. I know that iSteve was one of the few welcome places during the Bush II Regime: This Time It's Personal where conservative critiques of the president were welcome, on all three points of the Invade the World, Invite the World, In-hoc to the World trifecta.

    , @Bill Jones
    @JohnnyWalker123

    " let Lehman Brothers crash."

    Why mix in the one good thing he did with all the evil?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  107. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    Completely wrong. Everything in the Sterling video and background story screams immediate threat, including video consistent with his reaching for a gun. And in the Minn incident, there is testimony the man was reaching for a gun. We have not seen video.

    Both men were armed. There is evidence in both scenarios they were reaching for a gun.

    You must lead a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Sterling was pinned down on his belly by two cops when he was shot, multiple times.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wrong. He was on his back and his right arm was free and had started to move down toward his right pocket.

    "Pinned," in any event, is hardly dispositive. Not when you are wrestling with a 6'4", 300 man who is still struggling against you and has a gun in his pocket.

    Policy either will not be indicted or will be found not guilty if they are.

    Again, you must have led a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @avraham, @Dave Pinsen

    , @rod1963
    @Dave Pinsen

    Sterling, physically was a monster and it takes more than two cops to restrain someone that big and full of adrenaline.

    You'd be surprised what a 150lb 5'9" guy can do once he's jacked up, it can easily 2-4 cops to restrain him. Add 7 inches and 100lbs and it's a whole nother story. Size and strength changes the dynamics real fast, add in a hidden gun and you just forced the cops to escalate.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Dave Pinsen

  108. @J1234
    Obama's statement over the MN shooting, and persistent silence about the 2000 shootings (so far this year) in Chicago by mostly black shooters, helped incite this massacre. MN's governor also helped incite the Dallas massacre by saying that the MN shooting wouldn't have happened if the civilians were white. Actually, this is probably true, since white civilians are more likely to maintain their composure when pulled over, and therefore, more likely to to follow the cops directives accurately. I was pulled over for speeding last year, and just told the cop about my Ruger LCP and my permit, and we were all cool.

    But ultimately, Trump will be blamed....somehow, someway.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question."

    Johnny why do you like Blacks so much when Blacks don't give a phuck about Whites who are killed by the police.

    You always side with Blacks over the police, yet have you ever seen a Black Social Justice Warrior protest police shootings when the victims are White?

    To me when it comes to the police and Blacks, I see the former as the lesser of two "evils".

    I would rather live in a neighborhood full of cops than live in a neighborhood full of Blacks.

    , @Hunsdon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? There are probably a lot of reasons: the War on (Some) Drugs, diversity, Supreme Court rulings from the 1960s on, the militarization of policing and an oozing top down contempt for citizens . . . hey, that's a start!

  109. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    The police eliminated (assassinated) certain Panthers and I do recall there were some actual shootouts, but no sniper-type activity. The 60’s were a different era though – or maybe not with the way things are going.

    This is horrendous.

    Peace.

    • Agree: pink_point
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Talha

    No sniper-type activity?

    Mark James Robert Essex was an African-American mass murderer who killed nine people, including five policemen, and wounded 13 others in New Orleans on December 31, 1972 and January 7, 1973.

    From Wikipedia:


    Mark James Robert Essex was born in Emporia, Kansas. After graduating from Emporia Senior High School in 1967, Essex attended Emporia State University, where he dropped out after only one semester. He joined the United States Navy as a dental technician in 1969, stationed in San Diego, California, where he claimed he was subjected to two years of ceaseless racial abuse.

    He went absent without leave (AWOL) from October 19 until November 16, 1970. He was given a general discharge for unsuitability on 10 February 1971, for "character and behavior disorders". After his discharge, he became involved with black radicals in San Francisco, California, and later joined the New York Black Panthers.
     

    Replies: @Talha

  110. From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful. I highly doubt the Tea Party would be given the same treatment had a sniper attack occurred at one of their rallies.

    On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what’s left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill’s 1992 campaign.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @iSteveFan


    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful.

     

    Yes. The first article I read linked at Drudge started out with the words "A peaceful protest . . .".

    Replies: @guest

    , @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what’s left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill’s 1992 campaign."

    Do you think Hildabeast gives a phuck about White voters, when she is expected to win an even bigger share of the Hispanic and African American vote than Barack Hussein Obama did.

    Donald Trump is expected to get even less Hispanic, Asian, Homosexual, Muslim, and African American votes than Mitt Romney did.

    Barack Hussein Obama proved that a Democrat can win a presidential election without having to win the majority of the White vote. Hussein won only 39 percent of the White vote in 2012.

    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.

    In the next decade a Democrat will be able to win the presidency even if she or he only wins 25 to 30 percent of the White vote.

    And the decade after that 20 to 25 percent of the White vote will be enough to get a Democrat elected president.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @AnotherDad

    , @Almost Missouri
    @iSteveFan

    Yes, the media coverage is 1000% exonerating BLM and asking "what could possibly be the motive?" 180 degrees opposite of what they say when they think they can pin blame on conservatives ("culture of hate", "gun nuts", etc), e.g., Jared Loughner.

  111. @Clyde
    My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America. Maybe in our external wars like Iraq but doubtful. In the military whites will take sniper training, not blacks. Just going by the odds.

    Replies: @Talha, @Big Bill, @jill

    What about John Allen Muhammad and his sidekick?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Talha

    Forget those outdated homos-idiots! Killers also not Muslim as a few posters have speculated.

  112. MSM (CNN, which I’m watching), BLM’s and cucks (David French, and other NRO characters on Twitter) are going full-bore with Not Jumping to Conclusions about the suspects (aided by the open-carry black guy who was initially misidentified as a suspect).

  113. @CJ
    @gruff

    The Dallas Snipers hockey team are going to have to change their name.

    Not much flabbergasts me anymore, but that does. It really is astonishing, given the events of November 1963, that they ever could have been so named.

    Replies: @gruff

    Time heals all wounds. And by time I mean vague amnesia.

  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Sterling was pinned down on his belly by two cops when he was shot, multiple times.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @rod1963

    Wrong. He was on his back and his right arm was free and had started to move down toward his right pocket.

    “Pinned,” in any event, is hardly dispositive. Not when you are wrestling with a 6’4″, 300 man who is still struggling against you and has a gun in his pocket.

    Policy either will not be indicted or will be found not guilty if they are.

    Again, you must have led a very sheltered life.

    • Replies: @avraham
    @Anonymous

    I quoted your comment on my blog because it seems to most concise and accurate description of the events.
    Do you must have a background in law? I am amazed at your concise and clear description.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Just rewatched the video. You're right that he was pinned on his back. I didn't see any gun he had though.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store's surveillance tape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson

  115. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    That's a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don't want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @gruff, @Harry Baldwin, @Hunsdon, @Bill Jones

    Bush II was a fool, no doubt about it. However, both Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd ( Dodd-Frank, sound familiar? ) were both wailing that Bush and the GOP were not gutting credit standards fast or completely enough for nearly the entirety of the subprime bubble ( And then blamed it all on the banks that Uncle Sam was carrot and sticking to lend to everyone with a pulse ) and then there was Bill Clinton and his hacks at the Boston Fed that got the whole subprime nonsense rolling in the first place with their fatally flawed Boston mortgage study early in Bill’s first term. Now, Iraq, that was W’s doing entirely, and that was also a big contributing factor to getting Barry Obama elected, which may be W’s worst legacy of all.

  116. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    That's a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don't want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @gruff, @Harry Baldwin, @Hunsdon, @Bill Jones

    I read freerepublic a lot back in the early and mid oughts. Massive traffic, everyone on Bush’s jock, yammering away like the Iraq invasion was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    • Replies: @Das
    @gruff

    Bush responded to 9/11 by insisting that Islam is the Religion of Peace, calling for increased immigration (including from the Middle East), and overthrowing a secular Arab dictatorship. And 80-90% of Republican voters whooped and cheered the entire time that he was doing it.

    It was a surreal time to be alive.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  117. @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think Obama's speech was helpful, but, to be honest, this didn't require much stoking.

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    This is different from Ferguson, more organic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Obama didn’t have much to do with it, you’re right. But this isn’t “organic.” BLM and related movements are bound to come across real wrongs every now and then. But that’s no reason for riots and assassinations. White people are killed by cops every day and we don’t take to the streets. Whites shooting blacks, cop or wanna-be cop in Zimmerman’s case, haven’t necessarily instigated uprisings, either. Usually there must be another factor, such as cover-ups and “white-washes.” Those are absent in this case.

    So why the uprising? Why, when the Establishment already has snapped into action and these cops are probably doomed, or at least the MN one? There’s no indication that justice won’t be served. Why the BLM frontlash? Because they’ve been pre-stoked. Obama plays a part in that, because he always blames cops first and sympathizes with His People (or the half of his people he identifies with). But it’s much, much more the MSM’s fault. It’s like they want a race war.

    This has been four years of black stoking. Ever since St. Trayvon, especially in the summer, the MSM and professional protest organizers prime the pump of black and black-friendly unrest. They’re so primed, so stoked, that they don’t need central prompting. I guess you can call that organic, but organic crops are raised by farmers, after all. The MSM and professional rabble-rousers are agriculturalists, and black rioters are their crops. There’s been a fine yield the past few years. They don’t need actual injustice, but it helps to have it.

  118. @timothy
    @Anonymous

    "quick movement consistent with White."

    lol wat

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Yes, there is a certain kind of efficient quickness of movement that characterizes some Whites.

    I’ve reviewed the video, however, and based on body shape and certain other kinds of movements, I think the shooter could have been black.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Have you seen the alternate angle of the pylon shooting sequence?

    There seems to be a black guy insouciantly strolling down the middle of the street. I can think of 3 reasons for why this might be so: 1) he's a co-conspirator, 2) he's a bystander but feels safe b/c the perpetrator is also black, or 3) he is insane/drunk/high.

  119. @JohnnyWalker123
    @J1234

    Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Hunsdon

    “Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question.”

    Johnny why do you like Blacks so much when Blacks don’t give a phuck about Whites who are killed by the police.

    You always side with Blacks over the police, yet have you ever seen a Black Social Justice Warrior protest police shootings when the victims are White?

    To me when it comes to the police and Blacks, I see the former as the lesser of two “evils”.

    I would rather live in a neighborhood full of cops than live in a neighborhood full of Blacks.

  120. CJ says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Lots of whites get shot by cops too. For example, 550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year. Per capita, that's an 90x difference.

    That has nothing to do with White-Americans being more dangerous. White-Americans are no more likely to kill a cop than Britons. So this huge disparity in police killings isn't about American police being in more danger than British police.

    People ask why the cops kill so many blacks.

    I ask: Why do the cops kill so many White-Americans?

    Are White-Americans 90x more likely to deserve being shot than a Briton?

    Replies: @CJ, @Daniel Williams

    The number seems way out of line to me too, although there may be a lot more “suicide by cop” in the U.S. than elsewhere. Some comparative international stats for you here.

    http://theindependent.ca/2015/04/14/stop-the-killing-fatal-police-shootings-in-canada/

    Total fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per year

    United States 930
    Canada 25
    Germany 8
    Australia 5
    United Kingdom 2
    Japan 0

    [..]

    Fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per million people

    United States 2.9
    Alberta 1.4
    Canada 0.7
    Ontario 0.6
    Nfld & Lab 0.3
    Australia 0.2
    Germany 0.1
    United Kingdom 0.04
    Japan 0.0

    [..]

    Number of homicides per 100,000 people per year

    United States 4.7
    Alberta 2.3
    Canada 1.6
    Ontario 1.3
    United Kingdom 1.0
    Australia 0.9
    Germany 0.8
    Nfld & Lab 0.7
    Japan 0.3

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @CJ

    What's the matter with Alberta? What demographic is driving this?

    Replies: @CJ

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @CJ

    Suicide rates don't explain it.

    The US has twice the suicide rate of the UK. However, a US non-Hispanic white is about 90x as likely to be killed by police than a Briton.

    2x the suicide rate and 90x the cop-inflicted homicide rate.

    One study found that about 16% of cop-inflicted homicides involved individuals with suicidal intentions. If we assume all those homicides were among whites and also assume a 0% suicide-by-cop rate in the UK, then the White-American:UK disparity drops from 90:1 to about 60:1.

    So still a 60:1 ratio.

    If we assume there are some suicide-by-cop among blacks or Britons, then the 60:1 ratio would rise.

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/insight/2015/01/11/01-suicide-by-cop-difficult-to-study-leaves-police-officers-devastated.html

    There's also the question of why there'd be so many more suicide-by-cops among Americans than Britons. That'd negatively reflect on our social/criminal justice/healthcare system.

  121. @timothy
    More than 10. At least 4 dead. I wouldn't be surprised if white anarchist types were involved.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brohemius, @Big Bill

    How did you find this site?

  122. @Borachio
    It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military ...?

    Perhaps -- going way out on a limb -- they were current operatives like the snipers who shot at both sides in Ukraine? We don't know at this point.

    If they were rational and methodical about their murder spree, they might have had a goal in mind and assumed Americans would react predictably.

    It's all speculation, but we need to be careful about what happens next.

    A lot of people are angry enough to say "bring it on." We should avoid that event unless there's no sensible alternative.

    Replies: @Brohemius, @RudyM, @Dr. X

    I don’t know, was John Allen Muhammed a “professional”?

  123. @Talha
    @Clyde

    What about John Allen Muhammad and his sidekick?

    Replies: @Clyde

    Forget those outdated homos-idiots! Killers also not Muslim as a few posters have speculated.

  124. @Unladen Swallow
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They are all too cowed by fear of being called racist to do anything, the tail wags the dog, err, donkey. CNN is already trying to blame concealed carry for the shootings. That is the difference between now and 1968, the media may have been liberal, but they weren't actively trying to spin the news the way Democrats wanted them back then, today they are. They really have been doing this actively in every Presidential election since 1992, that's why Trump got no traction with voters on his Muslim ban after the Orlando massacre, the media made it about "assault weapons" not terrorism and people followed their lead.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @Harry Baldwin

    Concealed carry? Is CNN really trying to blame sniper killings on pistols? How many people carry rifles concealed?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @OilcanFloyd

    I said that was the spin, not that it made any sense. After all, CNN thinks semi-automatics and fully automatic weapons are the same thing as well.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

  125. @blahblahblah
    Where's Antony Karlin been? Maybe he's been activated to do a false flag...

    But seriously, this seems like something a bit unrelated to BLM... I'm doubting the shooter is black as this is is coldly calculated... would a black person who wanted to attack cops do it at a BLM rally with a sniper rifle?... I don't think so... I'm betting Arab or White dude.

    I'm also hearing reports that a sniper is alleging that there are bombs planted

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Where’s Antony Karlin been? Maybe he’s been activated to do a false flag…

    But seriously, this seems like something a bit unrelated to BLM… I’m doubting the shooter is black as this is is coldly calculated… would a black person who wanted to attack cops do it at a BLM rally with a sniper rifle?… I don’t think so… I’m betting Arab or White dude.

    I’m also hearing reports that a sniper is alleging that there are bombs planted”

    You forgot how cold & calculated the Negroes Christopher Dorner, The Death Angels, and The DC Snipers were.

    Not all violent Blacks are Boyz In Da Hood/Menace To Society types.

  126. @liberal
    Those John Birch Republicans in the Deep South/Dallas are now getting cops killed just like they done President Kennedy... Until it accepts anti-extremism safeguards Texas needs to be barred from the next 2 or possibly 3 electoral college tallies

    Replies: @Brohemius

    I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Brohemius

    "I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!"

    Washington is Hollywood for ugly people, but James Carville is extremely ugly even by Washington politician standards. He is one hideous Cajun.

    Carville makes George W. Bush look like Fabio Lanzoni in comparison. He has a UFO looking face and head. James looks like a government experiment from Area 51.

    Replies: @schmenz

  127. @Hepp
    @Anon


    I’m calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it’s going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It’ll backfire on them badly.

     

    This isn't Nixon's America anymore. We're becoming like Sweden or France, where the majority of whites are too blind to be woken up by anything.

    Replies: @Wally, @SteveRogers42

    You assume that white blindness will continue.

    Times are a changin’.
    I sense the left knows that, hence their increasingly irrational behavior.

  128. @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think Obama's speech was helpful, but, to be honest, this didn't require much stoking.

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops. And both shootings were caught on video and went viral on social media.

    This is different from Ferguson, more organic.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.

    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You nailed it.

    Each kind of people need their kind of laws and police policy.

    Seems it's the pot to be melting, and now what's in it.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    That last link should start here. Good piece of dialogue.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who's pinned on his belly, without shooting him.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @G Pinfold

    , @Truth
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    From my armchair view...In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

     

    Now Caitlyn, I think your armchair is lowering your IQ



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This is all very well, but do drivers have to answer questions in state driving tests on how to respond to a traffic stop when carrying a concealed gun, or indeed on how to respond to a police traffic stop at all. I don't think it is the responsibility of drivers to know the procedure. And there are many drivers who are new immigrants or tourists who may understand English imperfectly. For example, not everyone knows what slang terms like"freeze" mean, as a command. (I doubt if my wife does.) So the police can just shoot any motorist for "noncompliance" at a whim?

    If someone has a rear light out, how about taking a note of their tag number and sending them a written notificationjust like when you go through a toll without paying, instead of escalating the situation with a traffic stop after dark when people will be scared? A busted light is hardly sufficient cause to risk lives, unless the cop is just using that as a pretext to pull a driver over and look for other offenses.

  129. @CJ
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The number seems way out of line to me too, although there may be a lot more "suicide by cop" in the U.S. than elsewhere. Some comparative international stats for you here.

    http://theindependent.ca/2015/04/14/stop-the-killing-fatal-police-shootings-in-canada/


    Total fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per year

    United States 930
    Canada 25
    Germany 8
    Australia 5
    United Kingdom 2
    Japan 0

    [..]

    Fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per million people

    United States 2.9
    Alberta 1.4
    Canada 0.7
    Ontario 0.6
    Nfld & Lab 0.3
    Australia 0.2
    Germany 0.1
    United Kingdom 0.04
    Japan 0.0

    [..]

    Number of homicides per 100,000 people per year

    United States 4.7
    Alberta 2.3
    Canada 1.6
    Ontario 1.3
    United Kingdom 1.0
    Australia 0.9
    Germany 0.8
    Nfld & Lab 0.7
    Japan 0.3
     

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @JohnnyWalker123

    What’s the matter with Alberta? What demographic is driving this?

    • Replies: @CJ
    @iSteveFan

    Partly a large contingent of native Indians, referred to as "aboriginal" by LE, partly some recent enrichment by immigration, and partly the oil and gas boom that attracted much of Canada's rifraff, of which there is more than you might think (BTW I spent 15 years in the United States). Scroll through some of these upstanding citizens:

    http://calgarycrimestoppers.org/calgarys-wanted

  130. I was astounded when I saw Obama’s speech. I thought, “here we go again…” and sadly, I wan’t wrong.

    Just to amaze people with my fortune-telling prowess, look for a major spike in unsolved black-on-black crime in Dallas this summer, as the police cooperatively take their sweet time getting to calls in black neighborhoods.

    Also, regarding black folks giving their offspring “the talk.” Maybe they should switch subjects to advice about marrying the woman you impregnate, and/or not having children you have no interest or ability in raising, so that the offspring don’t wind up de facto wards of the state.

    Black folks must learn early that the state is the shittiest parental figure you can appoint besides dumping them out on the street to fend for themselves.

    To reiterate for the black folks: the governments primary responsibility is to maintain our borders and infrastructure, to defend us when attacked, and collect taxes to fund these aims.

    They are not here to help you raise shitty kids you don’t want.

    If you choose to force the state into a parental relationship with your child, he/she will likely rebel, and confront the state, like a brat rebels against his/her dad. The state will ground him/her, or shoot your kid with a gun, to maintain public order.

    If you don’t like it, again, don’t have kids you don’t want.

    A casual perusal of orphanages across the United States, as well as abortion figures, underscores the sad fact that black children are wildly overrepresented, and anyone who values reality as their touchstones must conclude that black lives matter least to… black people.

    Until blacks collectively internalize this, expect more of the same. Again, the State are awful parents, and that’s why terrified police unload their guns when your children qualify via their behavior, you can’t get a loan for a house, and cabs pass you by in NYC at 2 AM.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @V Vega

    "Maybe they should switch subjects to advice about marrying the woman you impregnate,"

    Expecting a Dindu Nuffin to marry his baby mama is like expecting a Rabbi to eat lasagna, a dish which mixes meat and dairy so therefore not kosher.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @V Vega

    I hate to semi-defend Obama twice in one thread, but given how coordinated and effective the Dallas ambush was, it was probably planned before his speech.

    Replies: @Kylie

  131. @Steve Sailer
    @OilcanFloyd

    It wasn't that guy. There's video of that guy walking down the street when the shots are fired.

    Replies: @Boomstick, @OilcanFloyd

    Am I mistaken, or was that guy carrying a rifle? It’ll be interesting to see who the killers are, and if they have links to any organizations.

  132. @AndrewR
    Obama and Shill have blood on their hands. Of course as we know, people in their echelon never really have to be held accountable for anything.

    Replies: @Olorin

    Nor do the billionaires who installed them in their positions.

    What I want to know–after the assassin(s) are identified–is whose money supported them at every stage.

    Somehow the M$M are too busy applying bleedy leady clickbait tactics to care about that hard diggy/thinky stuff. Just as “refugees” magically appear on the shores of sovereign European nations or the US. Nobody sent them, nobody paid their way, nobody set it all up. It just happens. Like rain.

    In my view, “philanthropic” foundations and their bought-and-paid-for thinktanks are a big part of the problem-matrix we face at present. The efforts to harden federal control over everything aren’t arising from the vacuum of space, but from monied interests with carefully established mechanisms and institutions of operation. Thus “federal control” isn’t about federal government in general but this elite caste’s control in particular.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Olorin

    That "problem-matrix" you reference, and our enemy the elite caste, is not restricted to the federal government, no. The real ruling power in this country has been called the Cathedral, and it includes foundations and thinktanks. They are lumped together with "NGOs" generally. Along with universities and the civil service they tell us what to think, and thereby rule us. The MSM and Big Business reside down the power scale, and elected officials even further down. They are basically reality tv at this point.

  133. @iSteveFan
    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful. I highly doubt the Tea Party would be given the same treatment had a sniper attack occurred at one of their rallies.


    On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what's left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill's 1992 campaign.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Jefferson, @Almost Missouri

    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful.

    Yes. The first article I read linked at Drudge started out with the words “A peaceful protest . . .”.

    • Replies: @guest
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I stopped by MSNBC and a talking head must have said "peaceful" four times. He went on about how the cops visited BLM meetings beforehand, and they held hands and sang "We Shall Overcome" together, or whatever. And what a tragedy it is that tomorrow we'll go back to the bad old days. He used the term "backslide" in reference to his prediction that post-Ferguson reforms will fall apart.

    Replies: @GW

  134. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

    You nailed it.

    Each kind of people need their kind of laws and police policy.

    Seems it’s the pot to be melting, and now what’s in it.

  135. Das says:
    @gruff
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I read freerepublic a lot back in the early and mid oughts. Massive traffic, everyone on Bush's jock, yammering away like the Iraq invasion was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    Replies: @Das

    Bush responded to 9/11 by insisting that Islam is the Religion of Peace, calling for increased immigration (including from the Middle East), and overthrowing a secular Arab dictatorship. And 80-90% of Republican voters whooped and cheered the entire time that he was doing it.

    It was a surreal time to be alive.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Das

    "Bush responded to 9/11 by insisting that Islam is the Religion of Peace,"

    Are you sure he didn't say Islam is a religion that leaves people in pieces?

  136. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

    That last link should start here. Good piece of dialogue.

  137. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @iSteveFan


    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful.

     

    Yes. The first article I read linked at Drudge started out with the words "A peaceful protest . . .".

    Replies: @guest

    I stopped by MSNBC and a talking head must have said “peaceful” four times. He went on about how the cops visited BLM meetings beforehand, and they held hands and sang “We Shall Overcome” together, or whatever. And what a tragedy it is that tomorrow we’ll go back to the bad old days. He used the term “backslide” in reference to his prediction that post-Ferguson reforms will fall apart.

    • Replies: @GW
    @guest

    Shepard Smith was also quick to describe the protestors as "peaceful." His speculations shortly after the story broke were something to behold.

  138. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

    I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who’s pinned on his belly, without shooting him.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    who’s pinned on his belly
     
    From what I can tell, he was on his back, resisting, and his right arm was inaccessible to the cops because of the car. Ergo, he can possibly reach a gun on his person, which for obvious reasons has not been properly searched.

    two men ought to be able to subdue another
     
    Not to be a wiseass, but you’ve seen the show COPS, right? Subduing recalcitrant people ain’t always easy. Especially on a sweaty summa night in Baton Rouge. Your Twitter profile pic shows you about to deadlift Anzio Annie, so your perception of how to ‘handle shit’ may be quite different from the average person’s.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.
     
    (For now, I'll leave aside the possible 'injustice' factor of 31 stops.)

    In this incident, I’m going by what the girlfriend, in the video at 0:18, said:

    … and he let the officer know that he was re— he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet, and the officer just shot him in the arm.
     
    If what she implies is true (reaching without permission), then her boyfriend done fucked up. I’m not saying the cop is completely innocent. Maybe he gave contradictory orders. It would be good if there is clear bodycam/dashcam video.

    My larger point still stands. This is HBD in action. SJWs will melodramatically say “But did he deserve a death sentence for a simple mistake???” This isn’t about deserve, or executions, or injustice. It’s about A) Don’t fight cops in Baton Rouge, and B) Keep your hands visible in Minneapolis. Being stupid might interfere with that bit of ‘common’ sense. The second case, as of now, is more ambiguous.

    Of course, cops can be quick on the trigger and also just plain stupid, so I’m not against judgement when it is due.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @G Pinfold
    @Dave Pinsen


    "I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who’s pinned on his belly, without shooting him."
     
    Dave, you've been got to. Police are not Navy Seals.
    If a cop is more of a geek, say, than a cage fighter, he should just take the bullet from any muscle head freak who can break his grip?
    He shoulda done more rotator cuff work in the gym; cause the job is that you need to take on all comers, armed, whatever, without breaking a sweat, always looking good. Your luck will run out some time, but that's OK, we can get more cops.
    That's cold, man.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @AnotherDad

  139. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.

    • Replies: @V Vega
    @JimB


    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.
     
    The biggest problem of the Obama Administration is he always begins from the wrong premise.

    As President of the United States, he should speak to us as fellow americans. Obama always predicates his missives as "The International Negro," and proceeds to try to educate the uneducable. Call it "narcissistic relativism." The only people playing on his side are those affected with the same pathology.

    On the plus side, he's the best mini-demonstration of what to expect if his goal of "Globalism" is finally achieved, where all nations are converted into cultural truck stops, in which we have a multi-lingual loudspeaker trying to maintain order in a constellation of micro-shitshows we used to call "France," "Italy," or "the United States," etc.
    , @slumber_j
    @JimB

    Then there were the point-blank assassinations of two NYPD officers in Bed-Stuy in 2014...

    , @Almost Missouri
    @JimB


    "The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres."
     
    No it won't. The Left is writing our history. Journalists already have the first drafts out, and it turns out everything bad was caused by whites, Trump, hate (except black hate of others) and lack of gun control.
  140. @OilcanFloyd
    @Unladen Swallow

    Concealed carry? Is CNN really trying to blame sniper killings on pistols? How many people carry rifles concealed?

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    I said that was the spin, not that it made any sense. After all, CNN thinks semi-automatics and fully automatic weapons are the same thing as well.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Unladen Swallow

    I was commenting on the CNN spin. Sorry if you you took my comment as a jab.

  141. @iSteveFan
    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful. I highly doubt the Tea Party would be given the same treatment had a sniper attack occurred at one of their rallies.


    On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what's left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill's 1992 campaign.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Jefferson, @Almost Missouri

    “On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what’s left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill’s 1992 campaign.”

    Do you think Hildabeast gives a phuck about White voters, when she is expected to win an even bigger share of the Hispanic and African American vote than Barack Hussein Obama did.

    Donald Trump is expected to get even less Hispanic, Asian, Homosexual, Muslim, and African American votes than Mitt Romney did.

    Barack Hussein Obama proved that a Democrat can win a presidential election without having to win the majority of the White vote. Hussein won only 39 percent of the White vote in 2012.

    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.

    In the next decade a Democrat will be able to win the presidency even if she or he only wins 25 to 30 percent of the White vote.

    And the decade after that 20 to 25 percent of the White vote will be enough to get a Democrat elected president.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Jefferson


    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.
     
    If Hillary gets 35% of the white vote in each state (not the national average), she loses in a landslide blowout.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jefferson


    Barack Hussein Obama proved that a Democrat can win a presidential election without having to win the majority of the White vote. Hussein won only 39 percent of the White vote in 2012.

    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.
     

    Jefferson, do you have a link for your numbers? Or just a source for what numbers you base that on? Particular 2012 final. My impression is that Mitt Romney did *not* get to 60% of the white vote which is why he lost. (As well as doing relatively poorly with whites in the industrial mid-west.)

    Also you numbers for Hillary are certainly wrong. That's the trend, but the trend is just not very fast. (I'd estimate the tick is only about 1 point every four years. When we boomers really start our mass die off in the late 20s through the mid 40s, then you'll see it go faster.) I'd venture Trump wins if he gets 60% of the white vote, especially since he seems to be running ahead of Romney with whites in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Hillary will get absolutely creamed if she is anywhere near 35% of the white vote.

  142. CJ says:
    @iSteveFan
    @CJ

    What's the matter with Alberta? What demographic is driving this?

    Replies: @CJ

    Partly a large contingent of native Indians, referred to as “aboriginal” by LE, partly some recent enrichment by immigration, and partly the oil and gas boom that attracted much of Canada’s rifraff, of which there is more than you might think (BTW I spent 15 years in the United States). Scroll through some of these upstanding citizens:

    http://calgarycrimestoppers.org/calgarys-wanted

  143. Meanwhile, the ethnic cleansing of blacks by committed Latino’s continues, and not a “black lives matter” demonstrator to be found. I guess it’s less motivating to demonstrate when your oppressors are known to visit your constituent’s home for a quick late-night debate:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-gang-members-charged-attacks-targeting-blacks-203722952.html?ref=gs

    In any case, one of the biggest problems on black people’s plates isn’t nervous policemen. It’s unbridled immigration to illegal aliens and refugees who never heard of Jim Crow, and if you explained it to them, couldn’t care less, if they weren’t on the side of Jim Crow from the get-go.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @V Vega

    Even though Mexicans on average are shorter in height than African Americans, they seem less likely to be afraid to get in violent confrontations with African Americans.

    I have seen Mexicans get into fist fights with African Americans who tower over them in height.

  144. @Brohemius
    @liberal

    I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!”

    Washington is Hollywood for ugly people, but James Carville is extremely ugly even by Washington politician standards. He is one hideous Cajun.

    Carville makes George W. Bush look like Fabio Lanzoni in comparison. He has a UFO looking face and head. James looks like a government experiment from Area 51.

    • Replies: @schmenz
    @Jefferson

    "He has a UFO looking face and head. James looks like a government experiment from Area 51."

    Very funny, Jefferson. You've got a great way with words.

  145. @Das
    @gruff

    Bush responded to 9/11 by insisting that Islam is the Religion of Peace, calling for increased immigration (including from the Middle East), and overthrowing a secular Arab dictatorship. And 80-90% of Republican voters whooped and cheered the entire time that he was doing it.

    It was a surreal time to be alive.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Bush responded to 9/11 by insisting that Islam is the Religion of Peace,”

    Are you sure he didn’t say Islam is a religion that leaves people in pieces?

  146. @snorlax
    @Curle

    The shooters used AR-15s, so it'll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems - see Orlando.

    Replies: @RobinG, @Anonymous

    “The shooters used AR-15s, so it’ll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems..”

    So why don’t they use it? Instead, the idiot Dems are pushing “No Fly, No Buy” which would deny gun rights based on secret FBI lists. Outrageous precedent. What will be next? Anti-BDS laws in NY, etc., point to denial of Free Speech. Will I lose my internet access for criticizing Israel?

  147. @V Vega
    I was astounded when I saw Obama's speech. I thought, "here we go again..." and sadly, I wan't wrong.

    Just to amaze people with my fortune-telling prowess, look for a major spike in unsolved black-on-black crime in Dallas this summer, as the police cooperatively take their sweet time getting to calls in black neighborhoods.

    Also, regarding black folks giving their offspring "the talk." Maybe they should switch subjects to advice about marrying the woman you impregnate, and/or not having children you have no interest or ability in raising, so that the offspring don't wind up de facto wards of the state.

    Black folks must learn early that the state is the shittiest parental figure you can appoint besides dumping them out on the street to fend for themselves.

    To reiterate for the black folks: the governments primary responsibility is to maintain our borders and infrastructure, to defend us when attacked, and collect taxes to fund these aims.

    They are not here to help you raise shitty kids you don't want.

    If you choose to force the state into a parental relationship with your child, he/she will likely rebel, and confront the state, like a brat rebels against his/her dad. The state will ground him/her, or shoot your kid with a gun, to maintain public order.

    If you don't like it, again, don't have kids you don't want.

    A casual perusal of orphanages across the United States, as well as abortion figures, underscores the sad fact that black children are wildly overrepresented, and anyone who values reality as their touchstones must conclude that black lives matter least to... black people.

    Until blacks collectively internalize this, expect more of the same. Again, the State are awful parents, and that's why terrified police unload their guns when your children qualify via their behavior, you can't get a loan for a house, and cabs pass you by in NYC at 2 AM.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Dave Pinsen

    “Maybe they should switch subjects to advice about marrying the woman you impregnate,”

    Expecting a Dindu Nuffin to marry his baby mama is like expecting a Rabbi to eat lasagna, a dish which mixes meat and dairy so therefore not kosher.

  148. @JimB
    @Ron Unz

    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.

    Replies: @V Vega, @slumber_j, @Almost Missouri

    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.

    The biggest problem of the Obama Administration is he always begins from the wrong premise.

    As President of the United States, he should speak to us as fellow americans. Obama always predicates his missives as “The International Negro,” and proceeds to try to educate the uneducable. Call it “narcissistic relativism.” The only people playing on his side are those affected with the same pathology.

    On the plus side, he’s the best mini-demonstration of what to expect if his goal of “Globalism” is finally achieved, where all nations are converted into cultural truck stops, in which we have a multi-lingual loudspeaker trying to maintain order in a constellation of micro-shitshows we used to call “France,” “Italy,” or “the United States,” etc.

  149. Thing I hate most about the Obama era: It’s completely stripped away my ability to deal honestly and compassionately with tragedy. I read “10 cops shot in Dallas” and the VERY FIRST THOUGHT I have, without reading any of the details, is: “OK, how are President Jackass and his minions going to blame me for this one?” Because I’m a white heterosexual male who’s generally pro-gun, I know it’s only a matter of time until someone decides it’s somehow my fault, even if no white heterosexual males are involved.

    I hate that. I hate that I’ve been trained to bypass my normal human emotions and my first selfish thought is “how will this affect me?” But that’s the hyperpoliticized nation Obama has given us. Terrible.

    • Agree: Nico
  150. @V Vega
    Meanwhile, the ethnic cleansing of blacks by committed Latino's continues, and not a "black lives matter" demonstrator to be found. I guess it's less motivating to demonstrate when your oppressors are known to visit your constituent's home for a quick late-night debate:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-gang-members-charged-attacks-targeting-blacks-203722952.html?ref=gs

    In any case, one of the biggest problems on black people's plates isn't nervous policemen. It's unbridled immigration to illegal aliens and refugees who never heard of Jim Crow, and if you explained it to them, couldn't care less, if they weren't on the side of Jim Crow from the get-go.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    Even though Mexicans on average are shorter in height than African Americans, they seem less likely to be afraid to get in violent confrontations with African Americans.

    I have seen Mexicans get into fist fights with African Americans who tower over them in height.

  151. @Jefferson
    @snorlax

    "Also New York/New Jersey if we’re counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long."

    Are there enough White voters in Nevada who hate Hildabeast enough to help Donald Trump win the state? Especially in the large population centers of Las Vegas and Reno.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    In 2010 Harry Reid lost the Anglo vote but won the election. I say Nevada is too far gone.

  152. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wrong. He was on his back and his right arm was free and had started to move down toward his right pocket.

    "Pinned," in any event, is hardly dispositive. Not when you are wrestling with a 6'4", 300 man who is still struggling against you and has a gun in his pocket.

    Policy either will not be indicted or will be found not guilty if they are.

    Again, you must have led a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @avraham, @Dave Pinsen

    I quoted your comment on my blog because it seems to most concise and accurate description of the events.
    Do you must have a background in law? I am amazed at your concise and clear description.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @avraham

    Thank you for the head's up. "Policy" should be corrected to "police." Typo.

    Care to share your blog site with us?

    Replies: @avraham

  153. “Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know that.”

    But it is not a risk to them.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Realist

    Only a risk to Obongo in terms of legacy. Bill's wife only stands to lose the presidency, unless she has some sort of vicarious care about how the country generally does.

    Replies: @Realist

  154. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This is very bad for Hillary.

    BLM's model is the intifada. I wrote something about this a couple of hours before the sniper attack, because I had a bad feeling. 11 cops shot a few hours after BHO said the police shootings weren't isolated incidents was just more bad timing from this increasingly clumsy admin.

    http://www.newyorkace.net/the-convergence-political-islam-seeks-to-merge-with-black-lives-matter-shriektavists/

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @rod1963

    Neither Obama or Hillary or any Democratic doyen can now condemn BLM. They are now joined at the hips.

    If they condemn BLM the democrats lose the black and liberal white vote. If they let the BLM do as they please they risk more police and probably civilians being murdered by them which drives more whites to Trump.

  155. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    ” It’ll backfire on them badly.”

    Not a chance.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Realist

    Sure it will.

    Replies: @Realist

  156. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    its coz u have a black prez. and it can get much worse

  157. @V Vega
    I was astounded when I saw Obama's speech. I thought, "here we go again..." and sadly, I wan't wrong.

    Just to amaze people with my fortune-telling prowess, look for a major spike in unsolved black-on-black crime in Dallas this summer, as the police cooperatively take their sweet time getting to calls in black neighborhoods.

    Also, regarding black folks giving their offspring "the talk." Maybe they should switch subjects to advice about marrying the woman you impregnate, and/or not having children you have no interest or ability in raising, so that the offspring don't wind up de facto wards of the state.

    Black folks must learn early that the state is the shittiest parental figure you can appoint besides dumping them out on the street to fend for themselves.

    To reiterate for the black folks: the governments primary responsibility is to maintain our borders and infrastructure, to defend us when attacked, and collect taxes to fund these aims.

    They are not here to help you raise shitty kids you don't want.

    If you choose to force the state into a parental relationship with your child, he/she will likely rebel, and confront the state, like a brat rebels against his/her dad. The state will ground him/her, or shoot your kid with a gun, to maintain public order.

    If you don't like it, again, don't have kids you don't want.

    A casual perusal of orphanages across the United States, as well as abortion figures, underscores the sad fact that black children are wildly overrepresented, and anyone who values reality as their touchstones must conclude that black lives matter least to... black people.

    Until blacks collectively internalize this, expect more of the same. Again, the State are awful parents, and that's why terrified police unload their guns when your children qualify via their behavior, you can't get a loan for a house, and cabs pass you by in NYC at 2 AM.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Dave Pinsen

    I hate to semi-defend Obama twice in one thread, but given how coordinated and effective the Dallas ambush was, it was probably planned before his speech.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Dave Pinsen

    "I hate to semi-defend Obama twice in one thread, but given how coordinated and effective the Dallas ambush was, it was probably planned before his speech."

    Right. Because that speech was the very first racially divisive thing Obama has said since he became president. It's not as if he's helped created an anti-white and anti-cop climate for the past eight years with both his words and actions--and with his silences and inaction.

    /sarc

  158. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Sterling was pinned down on his belly by two cops when he was shot, multiple times.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @rod1963

    Sterling, physically was a monster and it takes more than two cops to restrain someone that big and full of adrenaline.

    You’d be surprised what a 150lb 5’9″ guy can do once he’s jacked up, it can easily 2-4 cops to restrain him. Add 7 inches and 100lbs and it’s a whole nother story. Size and strength changes the dynamics real fast, add in a hidden gun and you just forced the cops to escalate.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    @rod1963

    it was the same problem with the Garner case. When you are in the upper 1 percentile of strength resistance is something different from when you are an average guy.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @rod1963

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Federalist

  159. Thea says:
    @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    We are too far gone for even Trump. Look at the gov of Minn. Lots of “nice” Midwesterners agrees with him.

    While Putin says ” Russia doesn’t need minorities, minotities neeed Russia, ” our leaders demand we worship crooks due to skin color.

    There will be massive election fraud, a state of emergency limiting rights, and continued hair shirt wearing.

  160. @Anonymous
    There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn't get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in "the community" because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Erik Sieven, @Hacienda

    “Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community” are they really only rewarded in their own community?

  161. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wrong. He was on his back and his right arm was free and had started to move down toward his right pocket.

    "Pinned," in any event, is hardly dispositive. Not when you are wrestling with a 6'4", 300 man who is still struggling against you and has a gun in his pocket.

    Policy either will not be indicted or will be found not guilty if they are.

    Again, you must have led a very sheltered life.

    Replies: @avraham, @Dave Pinsen

    Just rewatched the video. You’re right that he was pinned on his back. I didn’t see any gun he had though.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store’s surveillance tape.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    The police detained Sterling after reports someone was brandishing a gun at passersby. The official reports on the shooting say a gun was recovered from the scene. In one of the videos (there are several) of the incident, you can see an officer retrieve an object from Sterling's right pant pocket after he has been shot. In that video, seconds earlier, Sterling's right arm seems to be free during the struggle and moving downwards. For an officer to hold his own weapon, he must take his his hands off the suspect.

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Dave Pinsen

    Dave, you sound like an autist arguing in favor of an armed giant violent pedophile who got shot while not doin nuttin.

  162. @rod1963
    @Dave Pinsen

    Sterling, physically was a monster and it takes more than two cops to restrain someone that big and full of adrenaline.

    You'd be surprised what a 150lb 5'9" guy can do once he's jacked up, it can easily 2-4 cops to restrain him. Add 7 inches and 100lbs and it's a whole nother story. Size and strength changes the dynamics real fast, add in a hidden gun and you just forced the cops to escalate.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Dave Pinsen

    it was the same problem with the Garner case. When you are in the upper 1 percentile of strength resistance is something different from when you are an average guy.

  163. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who's pinned on his belly, without shooting him.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @G Pinfold

    who’s pinned on his belly

    From what I can tell, he was on his back, resisting, and his right arm was inaccessible to the cops because of the car. Ergo, he can possibly reach a gun on his person, which for obvious reasons has not been properly searched.

    two men ought to be able to subdue another

    Not to be a wiseass, but you’ve seen the show COPS, right? Subduing recalcitrant people ain’t always easy. Especially on a sweaty summa night in Baton Rouge. Your Twitter profile pic shows you about to deadlift Anzio Annie, so your perception of how to ‘handle shit’ may be quite different from the average person’s.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.

    (For now, I’ll leave aside the possible ‘injustice’ factor of 31 stops.)

    In this incident, I’m going by what the girlfriend, in the video at 0:18, said:

    … and he let the officer know that he was re— he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet, and the officer just shot him in the arm.

    If what she implies is true (reaching without permission), then her boyfriend done fucked up. I’m not saying the cop is completely innocent. Maybe he gave contradictory orders. It would be good if there is clear bodycam/dashcam video.

    My larger point still stands. This is HBD in action. SJWs will melodramatically say “But did he deserve a death sentence for a simple mistake???” This isn’t about deserve, or executions, or injustice. It’s about A) Don’t fight cops in Baton Rouge, and B) Keep your hands visible in Minneapolis. Being stupid might interfere with that bit of ‘common’ sense. The second case, as of now, is more ambiguous.

    Of course, cops can be quick on the trigger and also just plain stupid, so I’m not against judgement when it is due.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He was on his back - I corrected that in a subsequent tweet.

    I'm somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs, which is about what the deceased weighed, right? When you're carrying this kind of weight, your endurance is pretty limited. As is your ability to get up off the ground, even without two cops on you.

    I somewhat agree with you on the 2nd guy. Neither of these guys were too bright, obviously. I wouldn't be surprised if the Baton Rouge one was reaching for a joint he was hoping to toss away.

    Replies: @Daniel H

  164. @rod1963
    @Dave Pinsen

    Sterling, physically was a monster and it takes more than two cops to restrain someone that big and full of adrenaline.

    You'd be surprised what a 150lb 5'9" guy can do once he's jacked up, it can easily 2-4 cops to restrain him. Add 7 inches and 100lbs and it's a whole nother story. Size and strength changes the dynamics real fast, add in a hidden gun and you just forced the cops to escalate.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Dave Pinsen

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily.

    Tackling someone to the ground is not the same as subduing them completely while there.

    , @Federalist
    @Dave Pinsen

    It doesn't take much "gas" to pull a trigger.

  165. @Paul Rise
    One fanatic backed into a corner, spouting nonsense. 3 others in custody, including a woman. My guess is whatever is going on here theres one true believers and 3 scenesters, and possibly some of those mistaken arrests. I could be completely off base here but seems like a tendency for neonazis and white supremacists to be taken alive whereas Islamists martyr themselves.

    Replies: @Lurker

    What is a ‘white supremacist’? How many of these ‘white supremacists’ have attacked the police recently?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Lurker

    "What is a ‘white supremacist’? How many of these ‘white supremacists’ have attacked the police recently?"

    A 5 feet tall Hispanic police officer with Chino shaped eyes is now seen as a White supremacist. That term has certainly gotten a lot more broad from it's original meaning which was mostly limited to blond German nazis.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Keith Vaz
    @Lurker

    Far fewer than black supremacists AKA BLM activists.

  166. I am sure George Soros said excellent in a Mr. Burns accent when he heard that 5 police officers were murdered at a Dallas Black Lies Matter event that was financially funded by him.

    George Soros probably sees American police officers as the new gestapo/3rd reich and the urban Negro ghetto as the new Auschwitz. The Shaniquas of the hood are the new Anne Frank.

  167. @snorlax
    @E. Harding

    Also New York/New Jersey if we're counting Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Nevada on the other hand is still winnable, but not for long.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Sutton

    All citizenship granted since the ’92 should be cancelled.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Sutton

    For the 'Ricans you'd have to go back to 1917.

  168. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Just rewatched the video. You're right that he was pinned on his back. I didn't see any gun he had though.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store's surveillance tape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson

    The police detained Sterling after reports someone was brandishing a gun at passersby. The official reports on the shooting say a gun was recovered from the scene. In one of the videos (there are several) of the incident, you can see an officer retrieve an object from Sterling’s right pant pocket after he has been shot. In that video, seconds earlier, Sterling’s right arm seems to be free during the struggle and moving downwards. For an officer to hold his own weapon, he must take his his hands off the suspect.

  169. @Lurker
    @Paul Rise

    What is a 'white supremacist'? How many of these 'white supremacists' have attacked the police recently?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Keith Vaz

    “What is a ‘white supremacist’? How many of these ‘white supremacists’ have attacked the police recently?”

    A 5 feet tall Hispanic police officer with Chino shaped eyes is now seen as a White supremacist. That term has certainly gotten a lot more broad from it’s original meaning which was mostly limited to blond German nazis.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    A brown or black woman tweeted earlier today that "white supremacy can act through people of color."

  170. @Dave Pinsen
    @V Vega

    I hate to semi-defend Obama twice in one thread, but given how coordinated and effective the Dallas ambush was, it was probably planned before his speech.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I hate to semi-defend Obama twice in one thread, but given how coordinated and effective the Dallas ambush was, it was probably planned before his speech.”

    Right. Because that speech was the very first racially divisive thing Obama has said since he became president. It’s not as if he’s helped created an anti-white and anti-cop climate for the past eight years with both his words and actions–and with his silences and inaction.

    /sarc

  171. @Dave Pinsen
    @rod1963

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Federalist

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily.

    Tackling someone to the ground is not the same as subduing them completely while there.

  172. @avraham
    @Anonymous

    I quoted your comment on my blog because it seems to most concise and accurate description of the events.
    Do you must have a background in law? I am amazed at your concise and clear description.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thank you for the head’s up. “Policy” should be corrected to “police.” Typo.

    Care to share your blog site with us?

    • Replies: @avraham
    @Anonymous

    I put the link to one of my blogs on the side. I am not sure if the owner of this site will publish it. He might be interested more in sites along the general nature of Unz. Mine is a little different.

  173. @Jefferson
    @Lurker

    "What is a ‘white supremacist’? How many of these ‘white supremacists’ have attacked the police recently?"

    A 5 feet tall Hispanic police officer with Chino shaped eyes is now seen as a White supremacist. That term has certainly gotten a lot more broad from it's original meaning which was mostly limited to blond German nazis.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    A brown or black woman tweeted earlier today that “white supremacy can act through people of color.”

  174. @Sutton
    @snorlax

    All citizenship granted since the '92 should be cancelled.

    Replies: @snorlax

    For the ‘Ricans you’d have to go back to 1917.

  175. I avoided watching the video, because I like to avoid depressing events in general. I just watched it anyway, and… Holy SHIT!!

    Note to Obama: When you’re trying to rouse up your compatriots with rhetoric, never forget that many of them have a mean IQ of 85. That means you can’t say whatever you want.

    You just can’t.

    Also brings up the old question: if you mean well, but your well meaning strategy creates ill, does that make you a bad person? No? Does it make you responsible for the bad outcome? No? What if you do it more than once?

    How many times does it take?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @V Vega

    What video?

    Replies: @V Vega

  176. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    black governance leads to this

  177. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who's pinned on his belly, without shooting him.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @G Pinfold

    “I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who’s pinned on his belly, without shooting him.”

    Dave, you’ve been got to. Police are not Navy Seals.
    If a cop is more of a geek, say, than a cage fighter, he should just take the bullet from any muscle head freak who can break his grip?
    He shoulda done more rotator cuff work in the gym; cause the job is that you need to take on all comers, armed, whatever, without breaking a sweat, always looking good. Your luck will run out some time, but that’s OK, we can get more cops.
    That’s cold, man.

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    @G Pinfold

    part of being a cop is wrestling with crazy people. If you are a "geek" learn to code.

    Fat, weak cops are just as ridiculous as female firefighters.

    Replies: @G Pinfold

    , @AnotherDad
    @G Pinfold


    If a cop is more of a geek, say, than a cage fighter, he should just take the bullet from any muscle head freak who can break his grip?
     
    This does bring up the obvious contradiction between two "progressive" positions:

    -- Cops need to be able to handle these situations without pulling their guns.
    and
    -- Female cops are awesome.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  178. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    who’s pinned on his belly
     
    From what I can tell, he was on his back, resisting, and his right arm was inaccessible to the cops because of the car. Ergo, he can possibly reach a gun on his person, which for obvious reasons has not been properly searched.

    two men ought to be able to subdue another
     
    Not to be a wiseass, but you’ve seen the show COPS, right? Subduing recalcitrant people ain’t always easy. Especially on a sweaty summa night in Baton Rouge. Your Twitter profile pic shows you about to deadlift Anzio Annie, so your perception of how to ‘handle shit’ may be quite different from the average person’s.

    In the second case, what you describe might have happened, but ABC reported the guy had been stopped 31 times before. So, presumably, he knew the deal.
     
    (For now, I'll leave aside the possible 'injustice' factor of 31 stops.)

    In this incident, I’m going by what the girlfriend, in the video at 0:18, said:

    … and he let the officer know that he was re— he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet, and the officer just shot him in the arm.
     
    If what she implies is true (reaching without permission), then her boyfriend done fucked up. I’m not saying the cop is completely innocent. Maybe he gave contradictory orders. It would be good if there is clear bodycam/dashcam video.

    My larger point still stands. This is HBD in action. SJWs will melodramatically say “But did he deserve a death sentence for a simple mistake???” This isn’t about deserve, or executions, or injustice. It’s about A) Don’t fight cops in Baton Rouge, and B) Keep your hands visible in Minneapolis. Being stupid might interfere with that bit of ‘common’ sense. The second case, as of now, is more ambiguous.

    Of course, cops can be quick on the trigger and also just plain stupid, so I’m not against judgement when it is due.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    He was on his back – I corrected that in a subsequent tweet.

    I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs, which is about what the deceased weighed, right? When you’re carrying this kind of weight, your endurance is pretty limited. As is your ability to get up off the ground, even without two cops on you.

    I somewhat agree with you on the 2nd guy. Neither of these guys were too bright, obviously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Baton Rouge one was reaching for a joint he was hoping to toss away.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Dave Pinsen

    >>I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs....

    Wow. From the tone of your writing voice I got the impression that you carried some lean and mean hipster aspect, weighing about 175. I'm always wrong about these things.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jim Don Bob

  179. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    (starcast voice): “Your race is under attack…your race is under attack.”

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    @Leftist conservative


    (starcast voice): “Your race is under attack…your race is under attack.”
     
    *starcraft
  180. @V Vega
    I avoided watching the video, because I like to avoid depressing events in general. I just watched it anyway, and... Holy SHIT!!

    Note to Obama: When you're trying to rouse up your compatriots with rhetoric, never forget that many of them have a mean IQ of 85. That means you can't say whatever you want.

    You just can't.

    Also brings up the old question: if you mean well, but your well meaning strategy creates ill, does that make you a bad person? No? Does it make you responsible for the bad outcome? No? What if you do it more than once?

    How many times does it take?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What video?

    • Replies: @V Vega
    @Anonymous


    What video?
     
    The video of the cop being executed.
  181. @Curle
    @candid_observer

    Who made this happen? I predict the culture of hate is fingered. Maybe even those running for office who have been stoking a culture of hate. Actual alignments or political positions or persons committing the deed matter no more than they did when a communist shot JFK and the culture of violence in Dallas was fingered as the culprit. Our entire media culture is built on lies and evasions. Expect the normal procedures to go into high gear.

    Replies: @snorlax, @candid_observer, @Chrisnonymous

    I think the phrase is “round up the usual suspects”…

  182. eah says:

    Some time ago I posted a comment — actually, a quote from another blog/web site, with a link — to the effect that there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America — Mr Sailer did not publish that comment (as is his prerogative) — I put that into a comment thread here because I largely agreed with the sentiment — and I feel no differently today — in fact, even more so — I wonder if others have the same or similar thoughts/feelings.

    • Replies: @Paul Kersey
    @eah

    America is Irredeemable. Our only job is to survive what is now upon us.

    , @Matthew Kelly
    @eah

    I could not agree more.

    , @Broski
    @eah


    there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America

     

    Indeed. Whites will not allow themselves to become a true underclass in a country they created, and are meaningfully waking up right now and beginning to resist. But the demographic train has already left the station. Thus, there will be conflict. We are in for a wild ride.

    In Europe, a likely scenario is the eventual violent expulsion of minorities. Why? Because Europe is white people's indigenous land. As Europe's aborigines, whites will have no qualms about taking their land back. Blood and soil etc.

    America less so.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  183. @Dave Pinsen
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He was on his back - I corrected that in a subsequent tweet.

    I'm somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs, which is about what the deceased weighed, right? When you're carrying this kind of weight, your endurance is pretty limited. As is your ability to get up off the ground, even without two cops on you.

    I somewhat agree with you on the 2nd guy. Neither of these guys were too bright, obviously. I wouldn't be surprised if the Baton Rouge one was reaching for a joint he was hoping to toss away.

    Replies: @Daniel H

    >>I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs….

    Wow. From the tone of your writing voice I got the impression that you carried some lean and mean hipster aspect, weighing about 175. I’m always wrong about these things.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Daniel H

    I write like a thin guy - I'll take that as a compliment.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Daniel H

    You must have been thinking about me.

  184. @Realist
    "Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know that."

    But it is not a risk to them.

    Replies: @Anonym

    Only a risk to Obongo in terms of legacy. Bill’s wife only stands to lose the presidency, unless she has some sort of vicarious care about how the country generally does.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Anonym

    See my reply 491

  185. Our crowd is about to take a step. We will then be that crucial, single step ahead.

    In the meantime, I’ll just leave this here:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    @BenKenobi

    That's a very appropriate quote, because the USA is exactly like Stalin's Soviet Union.

    "the Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers"

    Like they do in Baltimore and St Louis?

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/03/28/officer-shortage-hits-st-louis-city-and-county-police/

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96570

    Replies: @BenKenobi

  186. @BenKenobi
    Our crowd is about to take a step. We will then be that crucial, single step ahead.

    In the meantime, I'll just leave this here:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    That’s a very appropriate quote, because the USA is exactly like Stalin’s Soviet Union.

    “the Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers”

    Like they do in Baltimore and St Louis?

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/03/28/officer-shortage-hits-st-louis-city-and-county-police/

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96570

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Anonymous Nephew

    C'mon, buds.

    The federalization of local police departments as the end-game of all these events is a common idea here at iSteve.

    You don't think it's plausible that under a Killary administration HUD will have paramilitary forces to help the affirmative furthering go smoothly?

    Or perhaps SWAT teams working under the "It Takes A Village Act" will be taking children from White families for thought-crime, Elian Gonzalez-style?

  187. @Anonymous
    @V Vega

    What video?

    Replies: @V Vega

    What video?

    The video of the cop being executed.

  188. @Realist
    @Anon

    " It’ll backfire on them badly."

    Not a chance.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Sure it will.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    No it won't. In all these years the Republicans haven't laid a glove on either Clinton.

  189. @Daniel H
    @Dave Pinsen

    >>I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs....

    Wow. From the tone of your writing voice I got the impression that you carried some lean and mean hipster aspect, weighing about 175. I'm always wrong about these things.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jim Don Bob

    I write like a thin guy – I’ll take that as a compliment.

  190. @Dave Pinsen
    @rod1963

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Federalist

    It doesn’t take much “gas” to pull a trigger.

  191. Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of dubious stuff goes down in TX?

  192. I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs, which is about what the deceased weighed, right? When you’re carrying this kind of weight, your endurance is pretty limited. As is your ability to get up off the ground, even without two cops on you.

    Again, this is not two volunteers in some TOR-only, snuff cage fight where only one man leaves the building. This is city employees going to work. We need to give the cops a large built-in advantage, or the whole system falls apart, and we’re all in the cage.
    (I say this as an Englishman who remembers the days when unarmed Bobbies could keep the peace in London.) Libertarianism is like welfare. It works best in a homogenous culture.

  193. Keith Vaz [AKA "Sir Charles Pipkins"] says:
    @Lurker
    @Paul Rise

    What is a 'white supremacist'? How many of these 'white supremacists' have attacked the police recently?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Keith Vaz

    Far fewer than black supremacists AKA BLM activists.

  194. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

    From my armchair view…In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    Now Caitlyn, I think your armchair is lowering your IQ

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Truth

    A response from Truth! Hells yeah, I’m now officially an iSteve regular! S’up gurrrl.

    Check my post again, I linked to the same video. See the line “85 IQ under stress.” Now, it can be tough coming up with witty comments. I think GNC’s running a special on concentrated Flynn Effect powder. If you dose a few buckets at regular intervals, you may be able to boost your IQ into triple digits.

  195. @Anonymous
    @avraham

    Thank you for the head's up. "Policy" should be corrected to "police." Typo.

    Care to share your blog site with us?

    Replies: @avraham

    I put the link to one of my blogs on the side. I am not sure if the owner of this site will publish it. He might be interested more in sites along the general nature of Unz. Mine is a little different.

  196. I wonder if Barack Obama catches glimpses of the ghost of James Buchanan in the White House.

  197. @AKAHorace
    This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @AndrewR, @e

    You’re right, it would be. But what’s in it for him? Obama decided long ago that he’s not going to do ANYTHING that might tick off the brothers, for fear they might start calling him an Uncle Tom.

  198. The result of guns everywhere is that cops are scared of their own shadows. Law enforcement in the US are killing citizens at a much higher rate than in other developed industrial nations and getting away with it. Better training is needed. It is absurd to execute drivers on the spot for a broken tail light.

  199. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @timothy

    Yes, there is a certain kind of efficient quickness of movement that characterizes some Whites.

    I've reviewed the video, however, and based on body shape and certain other kinds of movements, I think the shooter could have been black.

    Replies: @anon

    Have you seen the alternate angle of the pylon shooting sequence?

    There seems to be a black guy insouciantly strolling down the middle of the street. I can think of 3 reasons for why this might be so: 1) he’s a co-conspirator, 2) he’s a bystander but feels safe b/c the perpetrator is also black, or 3) he is insane/drunk/high.

  200. @Unladen Swallow
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They are all too cowed by fear of being called racist to do anything, the tail wags the dog, err, donkey. CNN is already trying to blame concealed carry for the shootings. That is the difference between now and 1968, the media may have been liberal, but they weren't actively trying to spin the news the way Democrats wanted them back then, today they are. They really have been doing this actively in every Presidential election since 1992, that's why Trump got no traction with voters on his Muslim ban after the Orlando massacre, the media made it about "assault weapons" not terrorism and people followed their lead.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @Harry Baldwin

    the media may have been liberal, but they weren’t actively trying to spin the news

    They were and Spiro Agnew pointed it out. However, in the absence of alternative media–talk radio, the web–you had to be pretty politically involved to be aware of the extent of the problem. In the 1980s I subscribed to Reed Irvine’s “Accuracy in Media” newsletter, which featured obvious examples of media bias.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wasn't around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn't a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90's was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I'm guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn't think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating "stories" with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast, @David In TN

  201. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Ideologically and, to a lesser extent, demographically this is not your grandpappy’s America.

  202. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon's America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @E. Harding, @JohnnyWalker123, @AndrewR, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    You’re assuming that the fundamental racial divide in the US is “white” vs “non-white.”

    The Dems certainly try to frame it so but in reality the divide is black vs nonblack.

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @AndrewR

    Obongo was tripping over himself in his speech to pretend that hispanics have a stake in anti-police agitation.
    He's been pretty unsuccessful at this so far. I don't think Mestizos are the natural race baiters the Democrats want them to be.

  203. @timothy
    More than 10. At least 4 dead. I wouldn't be surprised if white anarchist types were involved.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Brohemius, @Big Bill

    Oh my goodness! I just got back from the fields! I am dying to know what the narrative is going to be!

    Evil white racist commies shoot hardworking black cops?

    Homosexual black man (triggered by Orlando shooting and unconscionable SWAT team delay) snaps and shoots fundamentalist white cops?

    Black men, pushed beyond limits by white racism, take out five white cops?

    This has such tremendous leftie potential.

  204. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website
    @Leftist conservative
    (starcast voice): "Your race is under attack...your race is under attack."

    Replies: @Leftist conservative

    (starcast voice): “Your race is under attack…your race is under attack.”

    *starcraft

  205. @Boomstick
    @Daniel Williams

    Ultimately? I think they're aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they'll be sued into oblivion.

    They'll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    Replies: @guest, @AndrewR, @donut, @WhatEvvs

    Yep. We see it with the two fatal shootings of black males this week. The federal Do”J” started “investigating” before the bodies were even cold.

    • Replies: @res
    @AndrewR


    Yep. We see it with the two fatal shootings of black males this week. The federal Do”J” started “investigating” before the bodies were even cold.
     
    The DOJ is so incredibly conscientious. I wonder if they will recommend indictment. Would a reasonable prosecutor choose to do so?
  206. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "I tend to agree.

    If the country becomes racially polarized, that works to Trump’s benefit in having the white vote coalesce around him. Like Nixon, Trump talks about the “silent majority.”

    America was a hell of a lot Whiter back in 1968 and 1972 when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS.

    If we still had the racial demographics of Richard Nixon's America, Hildabeast would never work in politics again because her political career would be finished after losing in an embarrassing landslide to Donald J. Trump.

    Replies: @E. Harding, @JohnnyWalker123, @AndrewR, @Je Suis Charlie Martel

    At a bar in NC, just had a black guy tell off his white female friend saying that he’s going to vote for Trump because “at least he’s a patriot”

    Shocked but excited

  207. Paul Joseph Watson did a very good vlog about “Black Lives matter” posted before the events in Dallas.

    Mike Smith posted about the police brutality in South Africa in post-apartheid era.
    http://mikesmithspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.ca/2016/07/south-africa-world-capital-of-police.html

    I guess it help the “media-entertainment industrial complex” to rub Hillary’s “emailgate” under the carpet or some conspiracy theorists might think of a big diversion to hide other plans.

    And here some rants on Zerohedge, SHTFplan and Breitbart.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/deadly-dallas-shooting-standoff-over-after-final-suspect-shoots-himself
    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/livestreamed-raw-footage-from-dallas-two-cops-down-in-shootout-eye-witness-reports-one-suspect-killed-one-still-at-large_07072016
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/google-announce-support-for-black-lives-matter/

    As Canadian singer Gordon Lightfoot said it’s a “Black day in July”.

  208. @Boomstick
    @Daniel Williams

    Ultimately? I think they're aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they'll be sued into oblivion.

    They'll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    Replies: @guest, @AndrewR, @donut, @WhatEvvs

    My guess is that the ultimate goal of this is the imposition of martial law . For most of this century the police been becoming more and more militarized . The media stokes the fires of racial hatred against whites relentlessly and the elected traitors go along with it and encourage the urban savages and their allies to continue to shred our civilization . All this insanity could be stopped in a matter of months if there was a will to do so , lawfully and IAW the constitution . The point of all this is to provoke a reaction from more mainstream whites , not the fringe . As soon as that happens we’ll get martial law , suspension of Habeas corpus and other constitutional protections . And of course they will come for your guns . The police will serve any master , the POC don’t give a shit about the constitution and the Millennials are are positively hostile to it because they see it as only protecting the people they despise . This didn’t just start with Barry , he’s not bright enough . This progressive take over started at least with Brandeis nomination to the Supreme court from which position he pushed his progressive agenda . A long time in the making while we slept and , mea culpa , sometimes supported the liberal positions . Now with events moving so fast we’re like a deer in the headlights . As I said once before things have gotten pretty bad when you hear about increased activity at the Yosemite Caldera and feel a surge of optimism .

  209. WhatEvvs [AKA "Mipchunk"] says:
    @Boomstick
    @Daniel Williams

    Ultimately? I think they're aiming for substantiative federal control of local policing. That's pretty much what happened in Ferguson. The local police department became appendages of the Justice Department and were forced to comply with every jot of whatever the feds thought was a good idea in policing. Nominally the locals will still be in charge, but everything will have to be done to federal standards and federal procedures or they'll be sued into oblivion.

    They'll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.

    Replies: @guest, @AndrewR, @donut, @WhatEvvs

    “They’ll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando.”

    We do need rational gun control, although I’m at a loss as to what that means in this day and age.

    Mike Cernovich, who is a huge hero to the alt-right, is retweeting a picture of a black man who was taken in and released.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/751275318476845056

    Perhaps this particular man isn’t a threat, but would you like to be around him? What do you think of the groveling caption? Doesn’t it sound, in your language, rather cucked?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @WhatEvvs

    Mike Cernovich is not a hero to anyone with a brain, alt-right or otherwise. He is a fraud who receives $50,000 a month in alimony payments from his ex-wife while claiming to be a self-made man, plagiarizes, and hops onto whatever dumb flareup might gain him attention. He makes absurd, unsubstantiated claims and should be disregarded entirely.

  210. @Hacienda
    I'd start by getting the news organizations to report these police shootings properly.

    Don't presume guilt on the part of the police and don't sensationalize the grieving families.

    The media is criminally culpable.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Crying black mothers make for great Democrat propaganda.

  211. @iSteveFan
    From the coverage I am watching they are going out of their way to mention that the protests and protestors were peaceful. I highly doubt the Tea Party would be given the same treatment had a sniper attack occurred at one of their rallies.


    On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what's left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill's 1992 campaign.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Jefferson, @Almost Missouri

    Yes, the media coverage is 1000% exonerating BLM and asking “what could possibly be the motive?” 180 degrees opposite of what they say when they think they can pin blame on conservatives (“culture of hate”, “gun nuts”, etc), e.g., Jared Loughner.

  212. @Clyde
    @Ron Unz


    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz 🙂 Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.

    Actually, I think a number of police officers may have been assassinated by the Black Panthers in Oakland back then, and probably some others around the country. But nothing like so many at one time by this planned sniper attack. And even during the huge, deadly riots around the country, there weren’t any deadly sniper ambushes like this.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Ron Unz

    The Balck Liberation Army killed a number of police officers.
    Wikipedia:


    According to a Justice Department report on BLA activity, the Black Liberation Army is suspected of involvement in over 70 incidents of violence between 1970 and 1976. The Fraternal Order of Police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers.

    On October 22, 1970, the BLA is believed to have planted a bomb in St. Brendan's Church in San Francisco while it was full of mourners attending the funeral of San Francisco police officer Harold Hamilton, who had been killed in the line of duty while responding to a bank robbery. The bomb was detonated, but no one in the church suffered serious injuries.

    On May 21, 1971, as many as five men participated in the murder of two New York City police officers, Joseph Piagentini and Waverly Jones. Those arrested and brought to trial for the shootings include Anthony Bottom (aka Jalil Muntaqim), Albert Washington, Francisco Torres, Gabriel Torres, and Herman Bell.

    On August 29, 1971, three armed men murdered 51-year-old San Francisco police sergeant John Victor Young while he was working at a desk in his police station, which was almost empty at the time due to a bombing attack on a bank that took place earlier - only one other officer and a civilian clerk were there. Two days later, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter signed by the BLA claiming responsibility for the attack.

    On January 27, 1972 the Black Liberation Army assassinated police officers Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie at the corner of 174 Avenue B in New York City. After the killings, a note sent to authorities portrayed the murders as a retaliation for the prisoner deaths during 1971 Attica prison riot. To date no arrests have been made.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liberation_Army
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Ron Unz

    The Black Liberation Army killed a number of police officers.
    Wikipedia:


    According to a Justice Department report on BLA activity, the Black Liberation Army is suspected of involvement in over 70 incidents of violence between 1970 and 1976. The Fraternal Order of Police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers.

    On October 22, 1970, the BLA is believed to have planted a bomb in St. Brendan's Church in San Francisco while it was full of mourners attending the funeral of San Francisco police officer Harold Hamilton, who had been killed in the line of duty while responding to a bank robbery. The bomb was detonated, but no one in the church suffered serious injuries.

    On May 21, 1971, as many as five men participated in the murder of two New York City police officers, Joseph Piagentini and Waverly Jones. Those arrested and brought to trial for the shootings include Anthony Bottom (aka Jalil Muntaqim), Albert Washington, Francisco Torres, Gabriel Torres, and Herman Bell.

    On August 29, 1971, three armed men murdered 51-year-old San Francisco police sergeant John Victor Young while he was working at a desk in his police station, which was almost empty at the time due to a bombing attack on a bank that took place earlier - only one other officer and a civilian clerk were there. Two days later, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter signed by the BLA claiming responsibility for the attack.

    On January 27, 1972 the Black Liberation Army assassinated police officers Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie at the corner of 174 Avenue B in New York City. After the killings, a note sent to authorities portrayed the murders as a retaliation for the prisoner deaths during 1971 Attica prison riot. To date no arrests have been made.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liberation_Army
    , @Jefferson
    @Ron Unz

    "You’re assuming that the fundamental racial divide in the US is “white” vs “non-white.”

    The Dems certainly try to frame it so but in reality the divide is black vs nonblack."

    Ron Unz even though you are a Liberal, you are not a fan of the African Americans correct? I remember you said they are the demographic that commits the most crime in this country. Liberals almost never openly admit that. You are an anomaly among your people. Most Liberals say they are more afraid of getting shot, raped, beaten, robbed, and or stabbed by a White Christian Republican.

  213. @AKAHorace
    This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @AndrewR, @e

    Obama chose his path long ago, and it wasn’t in favor of law and order or racial harmony.

  214. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    That's a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don't want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @gruff, @Harry Baldwin, @Hunsdon, @Bill Jones

    I agree with all your indictments of “W” except for Katrina. That was a shocking example of how blacks behave without close adult supervision, and it so unhinged the narrative that a white scapegoat had to quickly be identified, and that was the president. The federal government handled Tropical Storm Sandy no better, but since it was so close to the 2012 election that media protected Obama. Frankly, the federal government is just not very good at handling emergencies like this whoever is in charge.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Harry Baldwin

    Everything about the Iraq War was a disgrace, and it's remarkable that no one was ever held accountable. There was an element of scapegoating to Nixon's resignation insofar as it seemed to wipe the Vietnam War slate clean (remember that LBJ died in 1973), which served as a full stop to that war. But there has never been any official payback for the Iraq War.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Harry Baldwin

    Bush shouldn't have appointed Michael Brown (an inexperienced crony who had previously worked as a horse breeder) to be FEMA director.

    Of course I also blame Mayor Nagin and the state governor too.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  215. @Talha
    @Ron Unz

    The police eliminated (assassinated) certain Panthers and I do recall there were some actual shootouts, but no sniper-type activity. The 60's were a different era though - or maybe not with the way things are going.

    This is horrendous.

    Peace.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    No sniper-type activity?

    Mark James Robert Essex was an African-American mass murderer who killed nine people, including five policemen, and wounded 13 others in New Orleans on December 31, 1972 and January 7, 1973.

    From Wikipedia:

    Mark James Robert Essex was born in Emporia, Kansas. After graduating from Emporia Senior High School in 1967, Essex attended Emporia State University, where he dropped out after only one semester. He joined the United States Navy as a dental technician in 1969, stationed in San Diego, California, where he claimed he was subjected to two years of ceaseless racial abuse.

    He went absent without leave (AWOL) from October 19 until November 16, 1970. He was given a general discharge for unsuitability on 10 February 1971, for “character and behavior disorders”. After his discharge, he became involved with black radicals in San Francisco, California, and later joined the New York Black Panthers.

    • Replies: @Talha
    @Harry Baldwin

    I do declare - I stand corrected - thanks! I reading up on the Black Panthers, AIM and other political movements during my time at UCLA. I specifically read up on the hey-days in the 60s, this seems to have occurred after that period - I was completely unaware of it.

    Peace.

  216. @Clyde
    My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America. Maybe in our external wars like Iraq but doubtful. In the military whites will take sniper training, not blacks. Just going by the odds.

    Replies: @Talha, @Big Bill, @jill

    My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America.

    My bet is Democrats. Black or white, the shooters were Democrats.

  217. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    Two black men were shot to death by cops in situations where neither appeared to be an immediate threat to the cops.
     
    From my armchair view, the Baton Rouge incident was a “clean” shoot. The dude was resisting physically, at least one arm not under control. I can’t tell from the video, but if he was ‘reaching’ anywhere a weapon could be concealed, then that’s “life or death” right there. BLAM. Sort of the reverse tactically when Trayvon Martin was ground-and-pounding Zimmerman, but didn’t account for Zimmerman being armed. BLAM.

    In the Minnesota traffic stop case, my guess is: honest guy with an 85 IQ under stress kicking in. One’s got to know the script when dealing with law enforcement. Listen to what the cop orders. If the cop gives contradictory orders, verbally verify while keeping your hands in view: “My registration is in the glove box, is it okay to get it?” Do not unilaterally declare, “I’m just getting my driver’s license” and reach somewhere.

    In very ‘human bio-diverse’ country that recognizes broad rights for all of its residents, these chaotic things will happen regularly. What’s the saying? Diversity, freedom/liberty, civilization: you can, at most, pick two.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Dave Pinsen, @Truth, @Jonathan Mason

    This is all very well, but do drivers have to answer questions in state driving tests on how to respond to a traffic stop when carrying a concealed gun, or indeed on how to respond to a police traffic stop at all. I don’t think it is the responsibility of drivers to know the procedure. And there are many drivers who are new immigrants or tourists who may understand English imperfectly. For example, not everyone knows what slang terms like”freeze” mean, as a command. (I doubt if my wife does.) So the police can just shoot any motorist for “noncompliance” at a whim?

    If someone has a rear light out, how about taking a note of their tag number and sending them a written notificationjust like when you go through a toll without paying, instead of escalating the situation with a traffic stop after dark when people will be scared? A busted light is hardly sufficient cause to risk lives, unless the cop is just using that as a pretext to pull a driver over and look for other offenses.

  218. @JimB
    @Ron Unz

    The Obama Administration will go down in history as being bracketed by two police massacres. In 2009 Lovelle Mixon shot dead four Oakland police officers. In 2016, we have five dead Dallas police officers, and counting.

    Replies: @V Vega, @slumber_j, @Almost Missouri

    Then there were the point-blank assassinations of two NYPD officers in Bed-Stuy in 2014…

  219. Well, we certainly did get updates about Dallas. No, there was nothing like this in the ’60’s. I believe the whole Panther thing in Oakland involved the shooting of a single police officer, allegedly on purpose by Huey Newton. The George Jackson thing at the Marin County courthouse 4 years later didn’t have any police fatalities, just a judge and a DA who was crippled as a result, although when Jackson did try to make his escape the following year, I believe 2-3 correctional officers were killed.

    I haven’t watched the videos on LA and MN in detail. It’s possible the officers in LA fired too quickly. The MN shooting appears to have been entirely on the police officer, who is now being identified as a (white) Hispanic. Probably all of the officers will lose their jobs, the MN officer may get worse, but it’s rare for a PO to go to jail, just for the risk factor.

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    This won’t help Trump, and it won’t hurt Hillary, who is going win, anyway, I’m sorry to say.

    We’ll be hearing more about gun control, but that’s not going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how the MSM and their editorial offices respond to this. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon. Query: Were all of the officers white? That will affect the optics.

    • Replies: @jill
    @SPMoore8

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    Police radio traffic before the stop:

    http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

    The backstory on the convenience store robbery that Castile may have been involved in

    http://tinyurl.com/j9qv2uu

    Archived facebook photos of Castile

    https://archive.is/PLtGI

    Castile and Reynolds smoking dope with the child in the backseat

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689259671337725&id=100007611243538

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @SPMoore8, @Paul Jolliffe

    , @Dirk Dagger
    @SPMoore8


    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.
     
    Good "on the other hand" hedge.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @The most deplorable one
    @SPMoore8


    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.
     
    We already know that one of the suspects has all but been identified as black (because he wanted to kill white people.)

    As VoxDay suggests, this is likely an example of 4th GW, where a bunch of armed blacks have individually decided that enough is enough.

    My take is that the media has riled them up so much that they (the media) have lit the fuse of CW2, with blacks ready to start it.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    , @Jack D
    @SPMoore8

    You really have to discount early news reports. While it's not impossible for there to be multiple snipers plural, 99.9% of the time there's only one. In an urban canyon you get lots of echoes and ricochets so one guy shooting a rifle sounds like it is coming from multiple places so witnesses will absolutely swear that there is more than one shooter even though there isn't.

    The threshold for one guy going nuts is much much lower than for a conspiracy. Franklin said "Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead."

    The most likely assumption is also that if blacks are stirred up about the police shooting them then it will be a black who is taking revenge. Again it's not impossible for it to be otherwise, but it's not likely either and your working assumption should be the obvious one - the sound of hoofbeats means you should think horses and not zebras. If your working assumption is otherwise, then chances are your thinking is distorted by false assumptions - "blacks are not capable of planning such a complex operation", "blacks could never do such a thing", etc.

    So the most obvious candidate would have been a lone, black gunman and it turns out that it was a lone black gunman. Surprise, surprise.

    Occam's Razor wins again.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  220. @Harry Baldwin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I agree with all your indictments of "W" except for Katrina. That was a shocking example of how blacks behave without close adult supervision, and it so unhinged the narrative that a white scapegoat had to quickly be identified, and that was the president. The federal government handled Tropical Storm Sandy no better, but since it was so close to the 2012 election that media protected Obama. Frankly, the federal government is just not very good at handling emergencies like this whoever is in charge.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @JohnnyWalker123

    Everything about the Iraq War was a disgrace, and it’s remarkable that no one was ever held accountable. There was an element of scapegoating to Nixon’s resignation insofar as it seemed to wipe the Vietnam War slate clean (remember that LBJ died in 1973), which served as a full stop to that war. But there has never been any official payback for the Iraq War.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  221. It’s hard to fit this into any category.

    White anarchist types will cause no end of trouble as long as there isn’t too heavy a price to pay. They wouldn’t risk the death penalty.

    As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage.

    As for Islamists, they’d be unlikely to specifically target police officers. If they commit themselves to carrying out a mass murder, they’d want to kill as many people as possible. Confining the attack to cops would place an unnecessary limit on the body count.

    “White supremacists” are no friends of cops, but nonetheless they’d have preferred to shoot at the protesters.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Rob McX

    My guess is talented tenth. Maybe ex-military. Anyone seen Truth?

    , @reiner Tor
    @Rob McX

    I thought originally it was maybe white anarchist antifa types, too, based on the apparent proficiency and discipline of the shooter(s), but there are suspicious things in what the police and mayor communicated so far. The Guardian was the first source I found on Google, and here's what they reported the police chief said:

    "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter. He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people the suspect said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

    This, to me, suggests that it was a BLM type black person.

    Then there is another circumstance that they won't release the name or identity of the suspect. I'm sure if it were white people they'd be quicker to identify the person as "white". So this again suggests it was a person of color.

    Altogether I'd put my money on it being black BLM types inflamed by Obama. Of course, I'm by no means sure about it: it could be white anarchists. So we can surely wait a few days until more information comes out before jumping to conclusions. But now we have enough information to make some informed guesses if one wishes to do so.

    , @Wilkey
    @Rob McX

    "As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage."

    Yeah, because it's a like the D.C. snipers, and we all know that those guys were white.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Jack D

  222. @guest
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I stopped by MSNBC and a talking head must have said "peaceful" four times. He went on about how the cops visited BLM meetings beforehand, and they held hands and sang "We Shall Overcome" together, or whatever. And what a tragedy it is that tomorrow we'll go back to the bad old days. He used the term "backslide" in reference to his prediction that post-Ferguson reforms will fall apart.

    Replies: @GW

    Shepard Smith was also quick to describe the protestors as “peaceful.” His speculations shortly after the story broke were something to behold.

  223. @Borachio
    It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military ...?

    Perhaps -- going way out on a limb -- they were current operatives like the snipers who shot at both sides in Ukraine? We don't know at this point.

    If they were rational and methodical about their murder spree, they might have had a goal in mind and assumed Americans would react predictably.

    It's all speculation, but we need to be careful about what happens next.

    A lot of people are angry enough to say "bring it on." We should avoid that event unless there's no sensible alternative.

    Replies: @Brohemius, @RudyM, @Dr. X

    This is exactly what I have been thinking. I have hardly read anything about any of this yet, so maybe it will quickly become apparent what actually happened once I start looking, but I’m trying to focus more on what happened than what it means. We can spin out accounts of what it means all day long, but, as with the recent events in Orlando (which I consider a psyop of some sort), it’s important to scrutinize the reported event.

  224. @snorlax
    @Curle

    The shooters used AR-15s, so it'll be blamed on the guns. Which is actually a fairly effective argument for the Dems - see Orlando.

    Replies: @RobinG, @Anonymous

    By 2025/2030 you will lose your citizenship for not worshipping Israel, if current trends continue.

  225. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    A black Naval deserter killed 9, including 5 cops, and wounded 13 mostly by using sniper tactics during two days of attacks in New Orleans in 1973.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Essex

  226. Ed says:

    To answer Ron Unz’s question, the only comparable thing that happened in the 1960s was this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

    There were groups of 1960s radicals who attempted, generally ineptly, terrorism. They didn’t use sniper tactics which takes a considerable amount of training. Unless you count the Kennedy assassination.

    When I first heard of this incident this morning (I am out of the country and not exposed to 24/ 7 broadcast “news”), I first thought of the Muhammed/ Malvo shootings in Virginia in 2002, then the Whitman shootings in 1966. But a few people have drawn parallels to the Maiden shootings in Kiev, and there are some depressing similarities.

    I wouldn’t be so quick to blame BLM. If nearby snipers started killing cops at a Trump rally, or even a Tea Party rally, I don’t think people here would assume that the Trump or Tea Party people had organized it. There are other web forums of course where people would make that assumption. When something horrible happens at a political rally organized people you oppose, its pretty stupid to leap to the conclusion that the same people organized boththe rally and the horrible event. There is a history behind these things.

    I’m quite surprised how restrained and reasonable the comments have been, though maybe Sailer and Unz have been moderating more than usual.

    • Replies: @jill
    @Ed

    The Black Liberation Army gunned down 24 cops...13 in one year..11 the next

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Ed

    "If nearby snipers started killing cops at a Trump rally, or even a Tea Party rally, I don’t think people here would assume that the Trump or Tea Party people had organized it."

    But Trump and Tea Party people don't hate the police. That's where your parallel breaks down.

    "When something horrible happens at a political rally organized people you oppose, its pretty stupid to leap to the conclusion that the same people organized boththe rally and the horrible event. "

    Protests under the BLM flag are mainly anti-police, but if the police don't attend they can turn into robbery, arson and undocumented-shopping sprees, as we saw at Ferguson and Baltimore. I'm not at all sure that the BLM crowd consider what happened to be 'horrible'. No justice, no peace, remember?

  227. Eliminationism has consequences. This was posted yesterday morning.

  228. @SPMoore8
    Well, we certainly did get updates about Dallas. No, there was nothing like this in the '60's. I believe the whole Panther thing in Oakland involved the shooting of a single police officer, allegedly on purpose by Huey Newton. The George Jackson thing at the Marin County courthouse 4 years later didn't have any police fatalities, just a judge and a DA who was crippled as a result, although when Jackson did try to make his escape the following year, I believe 2-3 correctional officers were killed.

    I haven't watched the videos on LA and MN in detail. It's possible the officers in LA fired too quickly. The MN shooting appears to have been entirely on the police officer, who is now being identified as a (white) Hispanic. Probably all of the officers will lose their jobs, the MN officer may get worse, but it's rare for a PO to go to jail, just for the risk factor.

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    This won't help Trump, and it won't hurt Hillary, who is going win, anyway, I'm sorry to say.

    We'll be hearing more about gun control, but that's not going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how the MSM and their editorial offices respond to this. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon. Query: Were all of the officers white? That will affect the optics.

    Replies: @jill, @Dirk Dagger, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    Police radio traffic before the stop:

    http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

    The backstory on the convenience store robbery that Castile may have been involved in

    http://tinyurl.com/j9qv2uu

    Archived facebook photos of Castile

    https://archive.is/PLtGI

    Castile and Reynolds smoking dope with the child in the backseat

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689259671337725&id=100007611243538

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @jill

    Minnesota governor (Farmer Labor) Dayton has stated in public that Castile would be alive if he were white. No comment, except to say I'm really feeling quite occupied this morning, and not in a good sense. Occupied by a hostile government.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @SPMoore8
    @jill

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    If you ever get any hard evidence on that, let me know. Otherwise, it looks like a police officer shot an unarmed man who was strapped into his seat.

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @jill

    So Philando Castile was either the armed robber or an exact look-a-like for a robbery that took place just four days earlier a few blocks away.

    As I look at the pictures, I find it hard to believe it isn't him.

    Same hair, same profile, same facial hair, same body type (height and weight) and same attitude, based on the Facebook pictures.

    OK, so now we'll never know for certain whether it really was him, but now I see why the cops thought it probably was him. And you know what?

    They were probably right.

    And "Lavish" probably wasn't his girlfriend, either. (He's "single" on Facebook.)

    Jill, your link to The Last Refuge has information that won't see the light of day until after the election. My prediction, anyway.

    Replies: @Broski

  229. @Ed
    To answer Ron Unz's question, the only comparable thing that happened in the 1960s was this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

    There were groups of 1960s radicals who attempted, generally ineptly, terrorism. They didn't use sniper tactics which takes a considerable amount of training. Unless you count the Kennedy assassination.

    When I first heard of this incident this morning (I am out of the country and not exposed to 24/ 7 broadcast "news"), I first thought of the Muhammed/ Malvo shootings in Virginia in 2002, then the Whitman shootings in 1966. But a few people have drawn parallels to the Maiden shootings in Kiev, and there are some depressing similarities.

    I wouldn't be so quick to blame BLM. If nearby snipers started killing cops at a Trump rally, or even a Tea Party rally, I don't think people here would assume that the Trump or Tea Party people had organized it. There are other web forums of course where people would make that assumption. When something horrible happens at a political rally organized people you oppose, its pretty stupid to leap to the conclusion that the same people organized boththe rally and the horrible event. There is a history behind these things.

    I'm quite surprised how restrained and reasonable the comments have been, though maybe Sailer and Unz have been moderating more than usual.

    Replies: @jill, @Anonymous Nephew

    The Black Liberation Army gunned down 24 cops…13 in one year..11 the next

  230. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    Just rewatched the video. You're right that he was pinned on his back. I didn't see any gun he had though.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store's surveillance tape.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Hanson

    Dave, you sound like an autist arguing in favor of an armed giant violent pedophile who got shot while not doin nuttin.

  231. @Anonymous
    There never has been a solution to black violence because the hot young black women love them some violent thugs.

    If violent black guys couldn't get laid then it would all stop tomorrow. Instead the violent strutting black thugs get almost all of the hot women in "the community" because because because.

    It is what it is.

    Black thugs are handsomely rewarded in their community. Like no other race on the planet this is the reality.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Erik Sieven, @Hacienda

    I got T-boned by a black woman who ran a red light at the intersection by Los Angeles High School. She got on her cell phone and in two minutes a couple of 20 something black guys drove up. They just kind of made their presence known. I exchanged info, driver’s license. Turned out the info, license was fake.

    The accident occurred at night and a Mexican came up to me and stated I didn’t have my headlights on. I’m absolutely positive I had my lights on. I still have the pictures in my head.

    Now I’ve learned over the years that Mexicans, while not typically ill-willed, can make amazingly unreliable observations of things.

    It’s a remarkably glitchy world we live in.

  232. Dallas PD chief just confirmed that one of the suspect who was cornered and killed was a BLM type.

  233. @Rob McX
    It's hard to fit this into any category.

    White anarchist types will cause no end of trouble as long as there isn't too heavy a price to pay. They wouldn't risk the death penalty.

    As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage.

    As for Islamists, they'd be unlikely to specifically target police officers. If they commit themselves to carrying out a mass murder, they'd want to kill as many people as possible. Confining the attack to cops would place an unnecessary limit on the body count.

    "White supremacists" are no friends of cops, but nonetheless they'd have preferred to shoot at the protesters.

    Replies: @Anonym, @reiner Tor, @Wilkey

    My guess is talented tenth. Maybe ex-military. Anyone seen Truth?

  234. @Clyde
    My bet is white boy anarchists did the killings. I cannot see blacks being snipers in America. Maybe in our external wars like Iraq but doubtful. In the military whites will take sniper training, not blacks. Just going by the odds.

    Replies: @Talha, @Big Bill, @jill

    The Beltway snipers were white?

  235. How will the Powerbottom administration use this event to Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste?

  236. It’s close to 9 a.m. in Florida now. Still no info on the suspects. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say our suspects are not white.

    Shame on me and forgive my cynicism if I’m wrong, but this is the pattern we’ve seen in the past: If the killers are white, or can be plausibly spun as white, we get that information almost immediately. Bonus points if he’s even vaguely “right wing.”

    If the ID of the killer or killers is “problematic,” that info gets held from the public as long as possible, so they can figure out how to put the right spin on it.

    Ergo, if they haven’t released any info yet — they have “problematic” suspects here.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Mr. Blank

    Communists did the same thing Western MSM is now trying to do. Western MSM has more goodwill with the people than communists ever had, but at this rate they are burning through their credibility quickly. Eventually any time the suspect's race won't be released people will jump to the assumption that it's a person of color. I think for most people it's already at work. Certainly for most people here, but I think for most people anywhere it will be like this. Even liberals will assume this (and try to excuse the culprit immediately, but that's a different story).

  237. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    Didn’t the Black Panthers shoot up a courthouse and kill a judge and several others?

  238. @Borachio
    It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military ...?

    Perhaps -- going way out on a limb -- they were current operatives like the snipers who shot at both sides in Ukraine? We don't know at this point.

    If they were rational and methodical about their murder spree, they might have had a goal in mind and assumed Americans would react predictably.

    It's all speculation, but we need to be careful about what happens next.

    A lot of people are angry enough to say "bring it on." We should avoid that event unless there's no sensible alternative.

    Replies: @Brohemius, @RudyM, @Dr. X

    It will be helpful to know if the snipers were professionals, perhaps ex-military …?

    Don’t put too much emphasis on the word “sniper.” The gun-ignorant media refers to any shooting with a rifle as “sniping.”

    Real sniping in military parlance refers to precision shooting from a position of cover at targets 600 to 1000 yards away.

    • Agree: ATX Hipster
  239. @Daniel Williams

    Stoking black rage for political advantage is a high risk strategy. And it’s not as if Obama and the Clintons didn’t know know that.
     
    So what's the endgame? How will Hillary back these murderous blacks off once she wins the election? Or will we all just have to get used to unpolice-able myrmidions roaming the streets of every city larger than Redding?

    Replies: @Boomstick, @JimB, @Dr. X

    So what’s the endgame?

    Hillary’s national gun control law. (The cops won’t give up theirs, of course.)

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @Dr. X

    Hillary’s national gun control law. (The cops won’t give up theirs, of course.)

    Nor will the gangbangers.

  240. @Rob McX
    It's hard to fit this into any category.

    White anarchist types will cause no end of trouble as long as there isn't too heavy a price to pay. They wouldn't risk the death penalty.

    As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage.

    As for Islamists, they'd be unlikely to specifically target police officers. If they commit themselves to carrying out a mass murder, they'd want to kill as many people as possible. Confining the attack to cops would place an unnecessary limit on the body count.

    "White supremacists" are no friends of cops, but nonetheless they'd have preferred to shoot at the protesters.

    Replies: @Anonym, @reiner Tor, @Wilkey

    I thought originally it was maybe white anarchist antifa types, too, based on the apparent proficiency and discipline of the shooter(s), but there are suspicious things in what the police and mayor communicated so far. The Guardian was the first source I found on Google, and here’s what they reported the police chief said:

    “The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter. He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people the suspect said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

    This, to me, suggests that it was a BLM type black person.

    Then there is another circumstance that they won’t release the name or identity of the suspect. I’m sure if it were white people they’d be quicker to identify the person as “white”. So this again suggests it was a person of color.

    Altogether I’d put my money on it being black BLM types inflamed by Obama. Of course, I’m by no means sure about it: it could be white anarchists. So we can surely wait a few days until more information comes out before jumping to conclusions. But now we have enough information to make some informed guesses if one wishes to do so.

    • Agree: Anonym
  241. @Ed
    To answer Ron Unz's question, the only comparable thing that happened in the 1960s was this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

    There were groups of 1960s radicals who attempted, generally ineptly, terrorism. They didn't use sniper tactics which takes a considerable amount of training. Unless you count the Kennedy assassination.

    When I first heard of this incident this morning (I am out of the country and not exposed to 24/ 7 broadcast "news"), I first thought of the Muhammed/ Malvo shootings in Virginia in 2002, then the Whitman shootings in 1966. But a few people have drawn parallels to the Maiden shootings in Kiev, and there are some depressing similarities.

    I wouldn't be so quick to blame BLM. If nearby snipers started killing cops at a Trump rally, or even a Tea Party rally, I don't think people here would assume that the Trump or Tea Party people had organized it. There are other web forums of course where people would make that assumption. When something horrible happens at a political rally organized people you oppose, its pretty stupid to leap to the conclusion that the same people organized boththe rally and the horrible event. There is a history behind these things.

    I'm quite surprised how restrained and reasonable the comments have been, though maybe Sailer and Unz have been moderating more than usual.

    Replies: @jill, @Anonymous Nephew

    “If nearby snipers started killing cops at a Trump rally, or even a Tea Party rally, I don’t think people here would assume that the Trump or Tea Party people had organized it.”

    But Trump and Tea Party people don’t hate the police. That’s where your parallel breaks down.

    “When something horrible happens at a political rally organized people you oppose, its pretty stupid to leap to the conclusion that the same people organized boththe rally and the horrible event. “

    Protests under the BLM flag are mainly anti-police, but if the police don’t attend they can turn into robbery, arson and undocumented-shopping sprees, as we saw at Ferguson and Baltimore. I’m not at all sure that the BLM crowd consider what happened to be ‘horrible’. No justice, no peace, remember?

  242. @Mr. Blank
    It's close to 9 a.m. in Florida now. Still no info on the suspects. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say our suspects are not white.

    Shame on me and forgive my cynicism if I'm wrong, but this is the pattern we've seen in the past: If the killers are white, or can be plausibly spun as white, we get that information almost immediately. Bonus points if he's even vaguely "right wing."

    If the ID of the killer or killers is "problematic," that info gets held from the public as long as possible, so they can figure out how to put the right spin on it.

    Ergo, if they haven't released any info yet -- they have "problematic" suspects here.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Communists did the same thing Western MSM is now trying to do. Western MSM has more goodwill with the people than communists ever had, but at this rate they are burning through their credibility quickly. Eventually any time the suspect’s race won’t be released people will jump to the assumption that it’s a person of color. I think for most people it’s already at work. Certainly for most people here, but I think for most people anywhere it will be like this. Even liberals will assume this (and try to excuse the culprit immediately, but that’s a different story).

  243. @SPMoore8
    Well, we certainly did get updates about Dallas. No, there was nothing like this in the '60's. I believe the whole Panther thing in Oakland involved the shooting of a single police officer, allegedly on purpose by Huey Newton. The George Jackson thing at the Marin County courthouse 4 years later didn't have any police fatalities, just a judge and a DA who was crippled as a result, although when Jackson did try to make his escape the following year, I believe 2-3 correctional officers were killed.

    I haven't watched the videos on LA and MN in detail. It's possible the officers in LA fired too quickly. The MN shooting appears to have been entirely on the police officer, who is now being identified as a (white) Hispanic. Probably all of the officers will lose their jobs, the MN officer may get worse, but it's rare for a PO to go to jail, just for the risk factor.

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    This won't help Trump, and it won't hurt Hillary, who is going win, anyway, I'm sorry to say.

    We'll be hearing more about gun control, but that's not going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how the MSM and their editorial offices respond to this. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon. Query: Were all of the officers white? That will affect the optics.

    Replies: @jill, @Dirk Dagger, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    Good “on the other hand” hedge.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Dirk Dagger

    Watching the video of the one guy shooting the police officer behind the pillar, it looks like whoever they were they were ex-military or possibly even terrorists.

    Rage or revenge shootings by African Americans are not known for their accuracy. Therefore, the initial take would definitely be some white guys with a lot of experience with weapons. But I am certainly all in favor of equal opportunity for snipers. Just what this country needs: highly trained and disciplined #BLM shooters.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

  244. The incident sounds to me like a group of radical blacks (akin to the Panthers of the 60s) got together a while ago and planned a “rapid response force.” They were probably inspired by Trayvon/Michael Brown/Freddie Gray. I’m betting they got together after one of those incidents, watched a lot of media claiming blacks are the victims, got real angry and said, “Alright, the next time this happens, we’re going to start killing cops in retaliation.”

    First stop to investigate: whoever organized the protest, and the protesters present. They lured the cops into an ambush their brothers set up.

    But that’s just my gut instinct. It could be an ISIS dude out for a turkey shoot, or it could (finally) be an anti-BLM white guy sick of being blamed for black bad behavior. Or it could be an upset Mexican cartel dude trying to cause some havoc among the black gangbangers and cops. Or the popular Lone Nuts.

    Or it could be the FBI. We know after Comey they are just Obama’s errand boys/secret police. The FBI could have set up the ambush to push for more gun control.

    But let me make a larger point, and an important one:

    The major cause of all this is that no one is allowed to point out the obvious: that blacks commit violent crimes at exponentially higher rates than non-blacks.

    No one is allowed to say the emperor has no clothes.

    The PC culture and the court system have removed this defense. So when blacks continuously get locked up and killed from altercations with the police, neither the police or their defenders can say the obvious: the deaths of blacks is exactly keeping with their statistical average for their violent crimes.

    We can’t say race exists. And we can’t say that blacks are more violent and less civilized than non-blacks.

    As a result, when things like this happen, the best defenses are removed. Imagine if every time a person was accused of a crime, self-defense was not allowed to be heard in court.

    So without this defense, cops get an unfair share of heat for dealings with blacks. The media makes the blacks sainted. The cops, instead of pushing back on PC culture, merely get rougher and more militaristic with everyone else—better to live and be thought of as an asshole than die being a nice guy.

    And the media plays up the “woe is me” BLM nonsense so blacks feel more entitled to violent behavior—and reprisals. And the corporate media never points out that Trayvon and Michael Brown were the aggressors who got what they deserved, or that Freddie Gray’s treatment was done by other blacks.

    People who feel they are the righteous victims feel justified in righteous vengeance; people who feel guilty and responsible for bad actions against them do not act in righteous vengeance. It’s also why the corporate media works overtime in making whites appear as bad guys—to lessen any righteous rage they may feel at the developing caste system around them.

    It’s high time we had leaders return to the abandoned arguments of the 1950s and 1960s: race exists, and blacks as a race are more violent than other races. Such arguments save lives–including black lives—by making cops unafraid of defending themselves and acting more cautious amongst blacks, and by making blacks less filled with self-righteous rage and feel responsibility/guilt for the suspicion and nervousness that non-blacks feel about them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @whorefinder


    It’s also why the corporate media works overtime in making whites appear as bad guys—to lessen any righteous rage they may feel at the developing caste system around them.
     
  245. Can we officially designate BLM as a domestic terror organization now?

    To all the millinials who liked to say, “I wish I was alive during the sixties!”, you got your wish. Enjoy.

    Sorry, can’t help you with the music.

    Eat Taylor Swift, bitches!

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @V Vega


    Can we officially designate BLM as a domestic terror organization now?
     
    After the South Carolina shooting last year, the Confederate flag was deemed offensive and brought down nationwide. Sales of it in major stores ceased.

    Will something similar occur with BLM now? Wouldn't BLM at least become toxic enough that a major party presidential candidate will no longer seek its approval?

    Yes, I know the answer in advance.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

  246. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s supposedly up to four snipers now. It’ll be of great interest to see who the dead suspect turns out to be. The spin will come in, gun control, bullet-proof vest control, ‘climate of hate’ brought about by Trump, etc. The number of gunmen might shrink down again giving rise to speculation about cover-ups, false flags and Maiden-style provocations.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @anonymous


    false flags and Maiden-style provocations.
     
    Run to the Hills? Up to eleven?
  247. @Rob McX
    It's hard to fit this into any category.

    White anarchist types will cause no end of trouble as long as there isn't too heavy a price to pay. They wouldn't risk the death penalty.

    As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage.

    As for Islamists, they'd be unlikely to specifically target police officers. If they commit themselves to carrying out a mass murder, they'd want to kill as many people as possible. Confining the attack to cops would place an unnecessary limit on the body count.

    "White supremacists" are no friends of cops, but nonetheless they'd have preferred to shoot at the protesters.

    Replies: @Anonym, @reiner Tor, @Wilkey

    “As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage.”

    Yeah, because it’s a like the D.C. snipers, and we all know that those guys were white.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Wilkey

    Or the" Zebra Murders"

    , @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    A lot of the early thinking was distorted by the fact that the police and press were reporting multiple shooter, multiple arrests, etc. pointing to a conspiracy (not that blacks are incapable of conspiracies either - there are some black drug gangs of considerable size). A lone shooter requires much less "discipline and planning". It would not be surprising if the shooter turns out to have some military or other weapons training - there are plenty of blacks in the US military. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper's nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you're all set.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @peterike

  248. The Conservative Treehouse seems to be getting at the background of the shooting of Philando Castile in Minnesota. This was the incident where the girlfriend made a video as he was dying in the car.

    The police officer stopped the car because Castile matched the description of a Black who was filmed robbing a store three days earlier.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/

  249. @Jefferson
    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Replies: @pink_point, @Anonymous, @Andrew, @RadicalCenter

    “Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?”

    African-Americans stick together. Since your skin is your uniform, they are all in it together. They’ll still be in it together when we are ruled by Hispanics or Muslims.

  250. @Wilkey
    @Rob McX

    "As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage."

    Yeah, because it's a like the D.C. snipers, and we all know that those guys were white.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Jack D

    Or the” Zebra Murders”

  251. Why are so many of the people cops shoot men? #malelivesmatter

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Polymath

    Outrageous. They're falling down on the "shooting dogs and kids" metric. Used to be so good.

  252. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Wilkey

    That's a good point.

    My point on Bush was this. He inflated the subprime mortgage market and let Lehman Brothers crash. He pursued the $5 trillion Iraq War, which has injured over 1 million veterans and killed 5,000 troops. He dropped the ball on 9/11/2001. He dropped the ball again on Hurricane Katrina. He also pushed to bring in tens of millions of foreign workers.

    While Obama certainly is not a good president, Bush is another universe in awfulness.

    By the way, Hank Paulson (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) helped craft the bailout, which gave billions of dollars (much of it not repaid) to Goldman.

    I don't want to sound like I like Obama. I just feel posters here are not critical enough of White Republican politicians, who are just as bad (if not worse).

    I support Trump and hate both parties with a passion.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @gruff, @Harry Baldwin, @Hunsdon, @Bill Jones

    Lately we’ve been critical of Obama for the simple reason that Obama is president. I know that iSteve was one of the few welcome places during the Bush II Regime: This Time It’s Personal where conservative critiques of the president were welcome, on all three points of the Invade the World, Invite the World, In-hoc to the World trifecta.

  253. @JohnnyWalker123
    @J1234

    Actually, the cops shoot whites a lot too. As I pointed out in my previous post, 550 White-Americans are killed a year by police. In comparison, 2 Britons are killed a year by UK police.

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? Nobody can answer that question.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Hunsdon

    Why do the cops kill so many whites? There are probably a lot of reasons: the War on (Some) Drugs, diversity, Supreme Court rulings from the 1960s on, the militarization of policing and an oozing top down contempt for citizens . . . hey, that’s a start!

  254. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    As I recall, the worst incident involved a bunch of Negro thugs plotting and executing the ambush murder of two patrol officers in NYC. This was front page news in the NYT for weeks. There were also a number of isolated murders of police, e.g., by Chesimard and by a couple of White Brandeis SDS coeds hanging out with White gangsters in Boston. Nothing at all like this.

    We are simmering on the verge of a race war here and I lay most of it on that idiot in the White House who is either utterly ignorant of race relations in this country or is trying to start a race war. Every time he has inserted himself into situations like this — which are not part of his purview — he has increased tensions to frightening degrees.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    It's easy to forget how atypical is Barry of "African Americans." Half-white biologically; not a descendant of slavery; raised by whites (and, for three years or so during his early childhood, by an Asian in Asia). And if I'm not too far off base here, he never set foot in a black neighborhood, or even on any square foot of the continental United States (other than international airports, maybe) until well into adulthood.


    Don't blame him for being ignorant of American race relations. The American voter is to blame for assuming otherwise.

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Perplexed

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @Jus' Sayin'...


    Every time he has inserted himself ..
     
    and

    .. inserting himself unnecessarily ..
     
    I am now officially triggered. You will be hearing from my attorney, counselor, mom etc.
  255. Libertarian Vox Day has sort of sided with the killers saying the white police had this coming to them. Libertarians are the lowest form of white man.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @Matra

    It's nice of you to tell us what you think of Libertarians but you seem to be ignorant of Vox Day's political orientation.

    I believe he claims he is a member of the alt-Right these days.

    Replies: @Matra, @Pat Hannagan

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Matra

    I was surprised and put-off by Vox Day's response to this.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Jack Hanson

  256. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    It’s deranged people who commit these terrorist acts.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3123329/Dallas-gunman-strangled-mother-fun-rampage-police-station-threatened-lives-judges-ruled-against-custody-battle-claim-authorities.html

    Not leftists. Not conservatives. People. But the Coalition of the Fringes, both on the left and on the right, will use these murders for their political advantage.

  257. @Anon
    I'm calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it's going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It'll backfire on them badly.

    Replies: @e, @JohnnyWalker123, @Hepp, @JimB, @Realist, @Thea, @AndrewR, @Corvinus, @Jus' Sayin'...

    When I saw the video my sympathies were all with the young couple and child brutalized by this homicidally out of control cop. Then I listened to NPR.

    First, they gave extended coverage to the idiot in the White House and his usual low-keyed race-baiting, inserting himself unnecessarily into an already tense situation and making it worse. Then NPR chose to interview some rabble rousing Negro “minister” whose chief claim to fame seems to be having done time for a cop shooting before he “found Jesus”. This clown claimed to have personally known the victim but it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was doing an ex tempore sort-of-eulogy just to get air time and his fifteen minutes of fame. (I hope some one fact checks this and nails NPR to the wall on it.)

    The bottom line is that lefties were tripping over themselves to turn an already horrific situation as much worse as they could make it. The payoff is Dallas and what will follow.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    So because the SJWs at NPR decided to use a man murdered by a cop for their own political benefit, you no longer have sympathy for that family? In what way did they have any control over how the atrocity against them would be used by others for political gain?

    Cops murder 2X the number of nonviolent suspects every year than violent suspects, most of the nonviolent suspects are unarmed. The fact is, this reaction toward the cops continuously getting away with murder, assault, rape, theft, extortion and other violent and non-violent crimes against the citizenry was bound to happen. Cops are almost never prosecuted. The same with corrupt lawyers, prosecutors and judges (which is a majority of them). The only surprise is that is was in a city where no recent cop murder has occurred.

  258. @guest
    @Boomstick

    On one hand, I see local cops afraid to pull people over or even talk to anyone who might be in a protected class. On the other hand, feds in control of policing at all levels nationwide might mean Wacos as far as the eye can see.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    The folks killed at Waco, especially the children, weren’t in a protected class.

  259. NPR interviewed a Dallas area detective and author about an hour ago, and his advice on how to handle police contact when you’re armed was almost exactly what I advised in the other thread. One addition was that as soon as he comes to a stop, he turns off his engine and turns on his dome light. I’d add, turn off your radio and extinguish any cigarettes.

    1. Keep your hands on the wheel until instructed to do otherwise.
    2. Keep your wallet and your paperwork as far from your firearm as possible.
    3. When the cop asks for your license, hand over your CCW permit, then say something like “officer, that’s my CCW permit, and I have a gun on my [location]. How would you like to proceed?”
    4. Take it one step at a time from there, stay calm, keep it slow and steady, follow the cop’s instructions, and make an effort to keep your hands visible. Don’t be afraid to ask for clarification if you need it.

    Do these things, and don’t be an ass, and you have a greatly improved chance of surviving police contact, even if the cop is a nervous, trigger-happy wreck, like the cop in Minnesota.

    Just going by his baby mama’s story, the dead man handled the situation very poorly. It’s really not hard to know how to handle police stops, armed or not, if you just give a bit of thought to the cop’s POV.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Svigor

    "It’s really not hard to know how to handle police stops, armed or not, if you just give a bit of thought to the cop’s POV."

    That's racist .

    , @27 year old
    @Svigor

    > 3. When the cop asks for your license, hand over your CCW permit, then say something like “officer, that’s my CCW permit, and I have a gun on my [location]. How would you like to proceed?”


    Don't say the word gun. Tell him you have a carry permit and you are carrying. DO NOT SAY "GUN".

  260. @eah
    Some time ago I posted a comment -- actually, a quote from another blog/web site, with a link -- to the effect that there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America -- Mr Sailer did not publish that comment (as is his prerogative) -- I put that into a comment thread here because I largely agreed with the sentiment -- and I feel no differently today -- in fact, even more so -- I wonder if others have the same or similar thoughts/feelings.

    Replies: @Paul Kersey, @Matthew Kelly, @Broski

    America is Irredeemable. Our only job is to survive what is now upon us.

  261. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @SPMoore8
    Well, we certainly did get updates about Dallas. No, there was nothing like this in the '60's. I believe the whole Panther thing in Oakland involved the shooting of a single police officer, allegedly on purpose by Huey Newton. The George Jackson thing at the Marin County courthouse 4 years later didn't have any police fatalities, just a judge and a DA who was crippled as a result, although when Jackson did try to make his escape the following year, I believe 2-3 correctional officers were killed.

    I haven't watched the videos on LA and MN in detail. It's possible the officers in LA fired too quickly. The MN shooting appears to have been entirely on the police officer, who is now being identified as a (white) Hispanic. Probably all of the officers will lose their jobs, the MN officer may get worse, but it's rare for a PO to go to jail, just for the risk factor.

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    This won't help Trump, and it won't hurt Hillary, who is going win, anyway, I'm sorry to say.

    We'll be hearing more about gun control, but that's not going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how the MSM and their editorial offices respond to this. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon. Query: Were all of the officers white? That will affect the optics.

    Replies: @jill, @Dirk Dagger, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    We already know that one of the suspects has all but been identified as black (because he wanted to kill white people.)

    As VoxDay suggests, this is likely an example of 4th GW, where a bunch of armed blacks have individually decided that enough is enough.

    My take is that the media has riled them up so much that they (the media) have lit the fuse of CW2, with blacks ready to start it.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @The most deplorable one

    The situation is still very fluid, so we all have to admit that we are speculating here. The fact that a black organization has claimed credit: even that is not definitive. I will say that the video of the one guy murdering the cop behind the pillar looked like someone who knew what he was doing in an urban environment: read military, or possibly terrorist.

    I actually think the race of the shooters is less important than the reason for the shootings: if it was done to promote #BLM, we have a problem regardless of the race of the shooters.

  262. Just rewatched the video. You’re right that he was pinned on his back. I didn’t see any gun he had though.

    Well, if you didn’t see the gun, it must not exist. The cops must’ve been screaming “he’s got a gun!” and “don’t you do it!” as part of their master plan to murder some random suspect on a 911 call, then plant a gun on him in front of the witnesses recording everything.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store’s surveillance tape.

    Yeah cops confiscate evidence after a homicide. News at 11.

    Occam’s razor, ever heard of it? Not saying my take is how it went down, but at this point, it sure seems like the most plausible explanation.

    Funny how you reflexively take Israel’s side on everything, then switch up and join BLM on this side of the pond. Or have you dropped the former allegiance, and I missed it?

    Of course, cops can be quick on the trigger and also just plain stupid, so I’m not against judgement when it is due.

    Neither am I. Which makes both of us less bigoted than the BLM masses and the leftist corporate media, both of whom are firmly in the “justice means frying these cops” camp.

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.

    Waiting for a guy reaching for his gun to “run out of gas” sounds like crazy talk to me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Svigor


    Funny how you reflexively take Israel’s side on everything, then switch up and join BLM on this side of the pond. Or have you dropped the former allegiance, and I missed it?
     
    That the most typical of all typicalities. No need to switch, the two standards can co-exist at the same time, one contrary to the other.
  263. one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb

    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Psmith

    No, you are not.

    As we have seen with Hillary, we have two justice systems in America. One for our betters and one for the rest of us. If you have killed a cop (let alone 5), then chances are you are not going to stand trial - your "trial" and execution will take place immediately. If he had shot the same number of civilians then the chances that they would have taken him alive would have been much greater. They had him surrounded - there was no pressing need to kill him immediately.

    In this respect, BLM has a point (although cops shoot many more whites than blacks). The police attitude has become, "We're not taking any chances with our lives. When in doubt (whether you are black or white), we're going to kill you." This has become a focus among blacks because (due to their higher rate of offending) blacks are in contact with the police a lot more often (the guy in Minnesota had been stopped by the cops 31 times before - 32 was his unlucky #), but really this a police problem, not a black problem. Policing, BTW, is not a particularly dangerous profession compared to some others (e.g. taxi driver), but we don't expect and permit taxi drivers to kill their passengers if they have any suspicions that the passengers are armed. The police are our fellow citizens and must be held to the same standard as any other citizen - no better and no worse. If they become an occupying army with shoot to kill orders and robot bombs, that's one more nail in the coffin of our former republic.

    Texas is a death penalty state and it would have been right and proper to capture this man alive, question him as to his motives and co-conspirators (if any), give him a fair and speedy trial and then execute him if he was found guilty, as he almost surely would have been. That's the American way.

    Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can't it carry a can of sleeping gas?

    Replies: @Federalist, @Kylie

    , @Thirdtwin
    @Psmith

    "one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb"

    «Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?»

    Nope. Last I recall anything like it was Waco, or before that, MOVE in Philly. But what if they were covering up a suicide bombing by claiming the bomb was their doing? Have we gotten this far into narrative creation? They keep saying it was a "Black Power" group, but what if it was Beltway Sniper-style Black Power?

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Psmith

    "Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?"

    No. But maybe Dallas PD decided they'd lost enough officers for one day.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @John Mansfield
    @Psmith

    I had no idea police even had bombs. I also find disturbing the police departments that have switched to black shirts.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Psmith

    White supremacy can be performed through robots too.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Perplexed
    @Psmith

    Battle bots! Sorry we didn't get to see it.

  264. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountian"] says:

    Is it true that Black Lives Matter activists have been meeting with Valerie Jarrete in the Whitehouse over the past year?

    Noam Chomksy in an interview accuses Trump suporters of using extra-constitutional violence to subvert democracy in the US.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Sounds to me like Noam needs to bend over and [redacted].

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

  265. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Ron Unz

    As I recall, the worst incident involved a bunch of Negro thugs plotting and executing the ambush murder of two patrol officers in NYC. This was front page news in the NYT for weeks. There were also a number of isolated murders of police, e.g., by Chesimard and by a couple of White Brandeis SDS coeds hanging out with White gangsters in Boston. Nothing at all like this.

    We are simmering on the verge of a race war here and I lay most of it on that idiot in the White House who is either utterly ignorant of race relations in this country or is trying to start a race war. Every time he has inserted himself into situations like this -- which are not part of his purview -- he has increased tensions to frightening degrees.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Expletive Deleted

    It’s easy to forget how atypical is Barry of “African Americans.” Half-white biologically; not a descendant of slavery; raised by whites (and, for three years or so during his early childhood, by an Asian in Asia). And if I’m not too far off base here, he never set foot in a black neighborhood, or even on any square foot of the continental United States (other than international airports, maybe) until well into adulthood.

    Don’t blame him for being ignorant of American race relations. The American voter is to blame for assuming otherwise.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @I, Libertine

    The presidency of Barack Obama must mightily gall Jesse Jackson; I always figured he'd be the first black POTUS, back in the day.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Perplexed
    @I, Libertine

    And East African (or Indonesian), not West African.

  266. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Just rewatched the video. You’re right that he was pinned on his back. I didn’t see any gun he had though.
     
    Well, if you didn't see the gun, it must not exist. The cops must've been screaming "he's got a gun!" and "don't you do it!" as part of their master plan to murder some random suspect on a 911 call, then plant a gun on him in front of the witnesses recording everything.

    Also, there are reports the cops confiscated the nearby store’s surveillance tape.
     
    Yeah cops confiscate evidence after a homicide. News at 11.

    Occam's razor, ever heard of it? Not saying my take is how it went down, but at this point, it sure seems like the most plausible explanation.

    Funny how you reflexively take Israel's side on everything, then switch up and join BLM on this side of the pond. Or have you dropped the former allegiance, and I missed it?

    Of course, cops can be quick on the trigger and also just plain stupid, so I’m not against judgement when it is due.
     
    Neither am I. Which makes both of us less bigoted than the BLM masses and the leftist corporate media, both of whom are firmly in the "justice means frying these cops" camp.

    One cop managed to take the monster to the ground fairly easily. And given his weight, Sterling probably would have run out of gas to struggle fairly quickly.
     
    Waiting for a guy reaching for his gun to "run out of gas" sounds like crazy talk to me.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Funny how you reflexively take Israel’s side on everything, then switch up and join BLM on this side of the pond. Or have you dropped the former allegiance, and I missed it?

    That the most typical of all typicalities. No need to switch, the two standards can co-exist at the same time, one contrary to the other.

  267. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Matra
    Libertarian Vox Day has sort of sided with the killers saying the white police had this coming to them. Libertarians are the lowest form of white man.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Harry Baldwin

    It’s nice of you to tell us what you think of Libertarians but you seem to be ignorant of Vox Day’s political orientation.

    I believe he claims he is a member of the alt-Right these days.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @The most deplorable one

    I'm aware of his political orientation. He has libertarian views on policing. In a country with tens of millions of blacks that is not possible.

    , @Pat Hannagan
    @The most deplorable one

    He also rejects being referred to as White. He prefers to identify as an American Indian with Mexican ancestry (great grandfather rode with Pancho Villa or something like that). In his interview with The Right Stuff he got annoyed with their jocular rebuff of this identification and is adamantly serious about it. He rejects any identification as White.

    He's described himself as libertarian-nationalist and Christian-Zionist.

  268. I see we still have people speculating “white guy,” even in recent comments.

    He…wuz…black. Drudge has a giant headline right now saying a “black power” group has claimed responsibility.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dallas-police-shooting-black-power-8378177

    He told the cops repeatedly that he wanted to kill whites, specifically white cops (I guess the black cops, yellow cops, brown cops, etc. who blow away blacks get a pass).

    Libertarian Vox Day has sort of sided with the killers saying the white police had this coming to them. Libertarians are the lowest form of white man.

    A lot of my values overlap with libertarians’, or, some libertarians’. That said, anybody who self-identifies as a libertarian doesn’t seem to be paying attention to libertarians in general.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?

    You beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing. Blacks are too stupid to fire rifles, Arabs are too stupid to crash airliners into skyscrapers, etc. This is the logical universe Konspiracy Kooks inhabit.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Svigor

    Who could have seen this coming? The black President of the United States portrays the situation as a race war between the police and black Americans and certain black Americans take it to heart and decide to fight a race war.

    Let's see how Hillary finesses this one. Or whether Trump gives the MSM ammunition to twist his words.

  269. @e
    @Anon

    No tweet from Trump yet>>>>>>>good.
    Hillary, of course, earlier tweeted her support of BLM.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    “No tweet from Trump yet>>>>>>>good.”

    I know, right? He seems to be getting it now.

  270. Remember the coffee shop where on guy, with a criminal past and a dislike of police went in and shot and killed 4 cops. This story didn’t get nearly as much attention as the Dallas incident. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_Washington,_police_officer_shooting

  271. Texas accepted a lot of Hurricane Katrina refugees from Louisiana, So I wonder if this is not blow back from the resettlement of refugees from desirable NoLa real estate to cheap Texas real estate.

    There is a lot of criticism of the police that shot the 2 likely innocent African Americans. Places like St Anthony MN will never be able to field police competent to handle inner city urban crime. Maybe the NYPD and Chicago PD but small towns here and there. They will invariably screw up more than big city well paid and expensively trained police. So moving slums from Chicago to Dubuque will be a disaster. Rationalizing poverty housing might mean rationalizing police to hand the social problems.

    • Replies: @Perplexed
    @George

    2 likely innocent AAs? Not likely all that innocent. One was phoned in for waving a gun in public and as a felon shouldn't have had a gun; the other was a Crip who resembled a robbery suspect and after 31 traffic stops should have had the protocol down pat.

  272. @G Pinfold
    @Dave Pinsen


    "I think in the first case, two men ought to be able to subdue another, who’s pinned on his belly, without shooting him."
     
    Dave, you've been got to. Police are not Navy Seals.
    If a cop is more of a geek, say, than a cage fighter, he should just take the bullet from any muscle head freak who can break his grip?
    He shoulda done more rotator cuff work in the gym; cause the job is that you need to take on all comers, armed, whatever, without breaking a sweat, always looking good. Your luck will run out some time, but that's OK, we can get more cops.
    That's cold, man.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @AnotherDad

    part of being a cop is wrestling with crazy people. If you are a “geek” learn to code.

    Fat, weak cops are just as ridiculous as female firefighters.

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    @Gross Terry

    No. Authority does not come from superior wrestling muscle. It comes from ruthlessness. Things should never get to the wrestling stage. Try wrestling one of those puny cops in Malaysia or Thailand. No need to waste money on a return ticket.

  273. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
  274. @Psmith

    one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb
     
    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thirdtwin, @Anonymous Nephew, @John Mansfield, @Percy Gryce, @Perplexed

    No, you are not.

    As we have seen with Hillary, we have two justice systems in America. One for our betters and one for the rest of us. If you have killed a cop (let alone 5), then chances are you are not going to stand trial – your “trial” and execution will take place immediately. If he had shot the same number of civilians then the chances that they would have taken him alive would have been much greater. They had him surrounded – there was no pressing need to kill him immediately.

    In this respect, BLM has a point (although cops shoot many more whites than blacks). The police attitude has become, “We’re not taking any chances with our lives. When in doubt (whether you are black or white), we’re going to kill you.” This has become a focus among blacks because (due to their higher rate of offending) blacks are in contact with the police a lot more often (the guy in Minnesota had been stopped by the cops 31 times before – 32 was his unlucky #), but really this a police problem, not a black problem. Policing, BTW, is not a particularly dangerous profession compared to some others (e.g. taxi driver), but we don’t expect and permit taxi drivers to kill their passengers if they have any suspicions that the passengers are armed. The police are our fellow citizens and must be held to the same standard as any other citizen – no better and no worse. If they become an occupying army with shoot to kill orders and robot bombs, that’s one more nail in the coffin of our former republic.

    Texas is a death penalty state and it would have been right and proper to capture this man alive, question him as to his motives and co-conspirators (if any), give him a fair and speedy trial and then execute him if he was found guilty, as he almost surely would have been. That’s the American way.

    Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?

    • Replies: @Federalist
    @Jack D

    "If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?"

    Because it's not an episode of Batman.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Kylie
    @Jack D

    "Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?"

    Because the suspect told cops there were bombs hidden all over the city. I'm guessing that even a fast-acting tranquilizing gas would give the suspect enough time to detonate bombs once he realized it had been used and before it took effect.

    This wasn't a situation in which nothing had happened but something might happen. Shots had already been fired, killing people. The death toll could have been much higher if there were hidden bombs the suspect could detonate. You might have been willing to risk the lives of innocent people but thankfully, the Dallas PD was not.


    From the Daily Mail: "Before the dead suspect was taken out with a police bomb, he also warned that there were other IEDs hidden around the city."

    Replies: @Jack D

  275. Hillary’s email server? What email server?

  276. A mendacious, pseudo-intellectual black woman was interviewed on NPR, right after the Dallas cop I mentioned (who was pretty good, btw, fair-minded, informative, and articulate). Lies just poured out of her mouth. She said the guy in Minnesota “did everything right,” etc. The NPR toe-cheese said the same thing he’d said to the cop, that “for blacks, the procedure isn’t working,” and of course she agreed. Wrong, the guy in Minnesota acted like a bonehead, assuming his baby mama’s story is true. Simply slowing his roll would almost certainly have kept him alive. The black pseudo-intellectual actually brought up how the cops who brought Dylan Roof in supposedly took him to Burger King, because he was hungry. Made it sound like they were fellow white supremacists and best buddies or something, when it was probably detectives who were trying to keep rapport with a cooperative suspect until they got him to the station and got his confession on record. See, when you turn yourself in and pose no threat to cops, they take you in alive; what you did previously to get yourself arrested is not the issue. It’s amazing how many liars and idiots they put on the radio.

  277. @Psmith

    one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb
     
    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thirdtwin, @Anonymous Nephew, @John Mansfield, @Percy Gryce, @Perplexed

    “one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb”

    «Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?»

    Nope. Last I recall anything like it was Waco, or before that, MOVE in Philly. But what if they were covering up a suicide bombing by claiming the bomb was their doing? Have we gotten this far into narrative creation? They keep saying it was a “Black Power” group, but what if it was Beltway Sniper-style Black Power?

  278. @Paul Rise
    @candid_observer

    There's an odious, Texas-based group called Peaceful Streets that generally despises police. Neo-Nazis hate police as well. The planning of it suggests ISIS. Very bizarre, very awful crime. This is why there is a death penalty, although something tells me these guys won't be taken into custody.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @schmenz

    Tell us more about this. You may be on to something.

  279. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    he was a light-skinned black, and so therefore a ‘white black,’ per the media

  280. @eah
    Some time ago I posted a comment -- actually, a quote from another blog/web site, with a link -- to the effect that there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America -- Mr Sailer did not publish that comment (as is his prerogative) -- I put that into a comment thread here because I largely agreed with the sentiment -- and I feel no differently today -- in fact, even more so -- I wonder if others have the same or similar thoughts/feelings.

    Replies: @Paul Kersey, @Matthew Kelly, @Broski

    I could not agree more.

  281. @Svigor
    I see we still have people speculating "white guy," even in recent comments.

    He...wuz...black. Drudge has a giant headline right now saying a "black power" group has claimed responsibility.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dallas-police-shooting-black-power-8378177

    He told the cops repeatedly that he wanted to kill whites, specifically white cops (I guess the black cops, yellow cops, brown cops, etc. who blow away blacks get a pass).

    Libertarian Vox Day has sort of sided with the killers saying the white police had this coming to them. Libertarians are the lowest form of white man.
     
    A lot of my values overlap with libertarians', or, some libertarians'. That said, anybody who self-identifies as a libertarian doesn't seem to be paying attention to libertarians in general.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?
     
    You beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing. Blacks are too stupid to fire rifles, Arabs are too stupid to crash airliners into skyscrapers, etc. This is the logical universe Konspiracy Kooks inhabit.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Who could have seen this coming? The black President of the United States portrays the situation as a race war between the police and black Americans and certain black Americans take it to heart and decide to fight a race war.

    Let’s see how Hillary finesses this one. Or whether Trump gives the MSM ammunition to twist his words.

  282. The problem I think started a long time ago when I heard a black person in LA tell me that they were planning on destroying the USA. No all are like that I know. But there are enough to make a difference.

  283. @whorefinder
    The incident sounds to me like a group of radical blacks (akin to the Panthers of the 60s) got together a while ago and planned a "rapid response force." They were probably inspired by Trayvon/Michael Brown/Freddie Gray. I'm betting they got together after one of those incidents, watched a lot of media claiming blacks are the victims, got real angry and said, "Alright, the next time this happens, we're going to start killing cops in retaliation."

    First stop to investigate: whoever organized the protest, and the protesters present. They lured the cops into an ambush their brothers set up.

    But that's just my gut instinct. It could be an ISIS dude out for a turkey shoot, or it could (finally) be an anti-BLM white guy sick of being blamed for black bad behavior. Or it could be an upset Mexican cartel dude trying to cause some havoc among the black gangbangers and cops. Or the popular Lone Nuts.

    Or it could be the FBI. We know after Comey they are just Obama's errand boys/secret police. The FBI could have set up the ambush to push for more gun control.

    But let me make a larger point, and an important one:

    The major cause of all this is that no one is allowed to point out the obvious: that blacks commit violent crimes at exponentially higher rates than non-blacks.

    No one is allowed to say the emperor has no clothes.

    The PC culture and the court system have removed this defense. So when blacks continuously get locked up and killed from altercations with the police, neither the police or their defenders can say the obvious: the deaths of blacks is exactly keeping with their statistical average for their violent crimes.

    We can't say race exists. And we can't say that blacks are more violent and less civilized than non-blacks.

    As a result, when things like this happen, the best defenses are removed. Imagine if every time a person was accused of a crime, self-defense was not allowed to be heard in court.

    So without this defense, cops get an unfair share of heat for dealings with blacks. The media makes the blacks sainted. The cops, instead of pushing back on PC culture, merely get rougher and more militaristic with everyone else---better to live and be thought of as an asshole than die being a nice guy.

    And the media plays up the "woe is me" BLM nonsense so blacks feel more entitled to violent behavior---and reprisals. And the corporate media never points out that Trayvon and Michael Brown were the aggressors who got what they deserved, or that Freddie Gray's treatment was done by other blacks.

    People who feel they are the righteous victims feel justified in righteous vengeance; people who feel guilty and responsible for bad actions against them do not act in righteous vengeance. It's also why the corporate media works overtime in making whites appear as bad guys---to lessen any righteous rage they may feel at the developing caste system around them.

    It's high time we had leaders return to the abandoned arguments of the 1950s and 1960s: race exists, and blacks as a race are more violent than other races. Such arguments save lives--including black lives---by making cops unafraid of defending themselves and acting more cautious amongst blacks, and by making blacks less filled with self-righteous rage and feel responsibility/guilt for the suspicion and nervousness that non-blacks feel about them.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s also why the corporate media works overtime in making whites appear as bad guys—to lessen any righteous rage they may feel at the developing caste system around them.

  284. So the police can just shoot any motorist for “noncompliance” at a whim?

    Your framing is tendentious. The police are going to do what they’re going to do (yes, that’s a whole other, valid conversation). What we do during a stop is all we can fully control. And I submit that, based on everything I’ve read, the fellow in Minnesota could easily have avoided being shot and killed, if he’d just had a bit of common sense, like, don’t inform an officer that you have a gun as you reach for it. Obviously the cop shouldn’t have shot him, but the lesson is that he isn’t the one who will soon be pushing up daisies. In other words, nobody’s as invested in keeping you alive as you are.

    FFS, you’d think this shit would be rote, given all the whingeing blacks do about police harassment, BLM, etc.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Svigor

    The same logic applies to "date rape" or campus rapes.

    And yet it is anathema to suggest adults behave with common sense, follow social cues or exercise self restraint.

    , @Jack D
    @Svigor

    There are a few problems with this, some of them self-inflicted and some not. First of all, you have to take black people in contact with the police as they are. If they were smarter and had better social skills then chances are they would not be contact with the police in the first place.

    2nd, and this is much more controllable, is that "black pride" / machismo causes some of them to be defiant in the presence of authority- they just can't bring themselves to be compliant and deferential to the hated po -lice.

    Somewhere in between the two is the fact that at the time of their encounters with the popo, they may be under the influence of various mind altering substances so their already not very formidable intellect is further "blunted".

    Replies: @Clyde

  285. @Jack D
    @Psmith

    No, you are not.

    As we have seen with Hillary, we have two justice systems in America. One for our betters and one for the rest of us. If you have killed a cop (let alone 5), then chances are you are not going to stand trial - your "trial" and execution will take place immediately. If he had shot the same number of civilians then the chances that they would have taken him alive would have been much greater. They had him surrounded - there was no pressing need to kill him immediately.

    In this respect, BLM has a point (although cops shoot many more whites than blacks). The police attitude has become, "We're not taking any chances with our lives. When in doubt (whether you are black or white), we're going to kill you." This has become a focus among blacks because (due to their higher rate of offending) blacks are in contact with the police a lot more often (the guy in Minnesota had been stopped by the cops 31 times before - 32 was his unlucky #), but really this a police problem, not a black problem. Policing, BTW, is not a particularly dangerous profession compared to some others (e.g. taxi driver), but we don't expect and permit taxi drivers to kill their passengers if they have any suspicions that the passengers are armed. The police are our fellow citizens and must be held to the same standard as any other citizen - no better and no worse. If they become an occupying army with shoot to kill orders and robot bombs, that's one more nail in the coffin of our former republic.

    Texas is a death penalty state and it would have been right and proper to capture this man alive, question him as to his motives and co-conspirators (if any), give him a fair and speedy trial and then execute him if he was found guilty, as he almost surely would have been. That's the American way.

    Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can't it carry a can of sleeping gas?

    Replies: @Federalist, @Kylie

    “If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?”

    Because it’s not an episode of Batman.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic, Nico
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Federalist

    The Russians did this once when there was a theater full of people being held hostage by Chechen terrorists. They pumped the place full of fentanyl gas - more or less the same stuff that killed Prince. It knocked the terrorists out and "only" killed 1/5 of the people in the theater and that number was increased by the fact that the Russian authorities (in typical Russian fashion) refused to tell the emergency doctors what gas they had used (military secret) and did not have any antidotes ready.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jack Hanson, @Federalist

  286. iSteveFan says:
    @V Vega
    Can we officially designate BLM as a domestic terror organization now?

    To all the millinials who liked to say, "I wish I was alive during the sixties!", you got your wish. Enjoy.

    Sorry, can't help you with the music.

    Eat Taylor Swift, bitches!

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    Can we officially designate BLM as a domestic terror organization now?

    After the South Carolina shooting last year, the Confederate flag was deemed offensive and brought down nationwide. Sales of it in major stores ceased.

    Will something similar occur with BLM now? Wouldn’t BLM at least become toxic enough that a major party presidential candidate will no longer seek its approval?

    Yes, I know the answer in advance.

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    @iSteveFan

    BLM provides the "muscle" for the demokrat party. They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    Replies: @Drakejax, @CJ

  287. “Coordinated and effective,” lol. “Hey, you set up over there, and I’ll set up over here, and when the cops come along bringing up the rear, we start shooting.”

    Yeah, real Green Beret stuff here.

    Sorry if you’re dismayed by this reality, but, ambushing non-military targets in a non-warzone is about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.

    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Svigor

    It wasn't even that complex - it appears that it was only 1 guy.

    There is a natural human tendency to think that the enormity of the actor must be commensurate with the enormity of the act. If a President or a dozen cops, etc. have been shot, it can't just be one pathetic mentally deranged loser with a rifle, it has to have been a grand conspiracy or the shooter must have been a highly trained terrorist, etc. How is it possible that the mighty can brought low by the humble? The cognitive dissonance that is set up by such a situation is what gives rise to conspiracy theories. If on the one hand it's "impossible" for such a thing to happen, but on the other hand it HAS happened, then what we see before our eyes cannot be true and there must be some other "better" explanation.

    , @Lurker
    @Svigor

    I've seen shooting and reloading cited as proof of military training in some terrorist incident in the last year.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Svigor

    I'm not sure what the term "triangulate" means in this context. Perhaps "crossfire" was what was meant. If an ambush is set up correctly a target seeking cover from one shooter exposes himself to the fire from another. A good tactic if you can pull it off, but it usually requires some scouting to select the firing points.

    One other point while I'm at it. I sure don't mean to be critical of the Dallas PD but some of the photos I saw showed officers closely bunched up. That's a natural tendency in a firefight but in a really serious engagement, it means that one grenade can kill or injure 5-7 police and there's no reason to think that the police won't be facing grenades pretty soon. The Dallas PD needs some intensive gunfight training..

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  288. @SPMoore8
    Well, we certainly did get updates about Dallas. No, there was nothing like this in the '60's. I believe the whole Panther thing in Oakland involved the shooting of a single police officer, allegedly on purpose by Huey Newton. The George Jackson thing at the Marin County courthouse 4 years later didn't have any police fatalities, just a judge and a DA who was crippled as a result, although when Jackson did try to make his escape the following year, I believe 2-3 correctional officers were killed.

    I haven't watched the videos on LA and MN in detail. It's possible the officers in LA fired too quickly. The MN shooting appears to have been entirely on the police officer, who is now being identified as a (white) Hispanic. Probably all of the officers will lose their jobs, the MN officer may get worse, but it's rare for a PO to go to jail, just for the risk factor.

    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.

    This won't help Trump, and it won't hurt Hillary, who is going win, anyway, I'm sorry to say.

    We'll be hearing more about gun control, but that's not going to happen.

    It will be interesting to see how the MSM and their editorial offices respond to this. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon. Query: Were all of the officers white? That will affect the optics.

    Replies: @jill, @Dirk Dagger, @The most deplorable one, @Jack D

    You really have to discount early news reports. While it’s not impossible for there to be multiple snipers plural, 99.9% of the time there’s only one. In an urban canyon you get lots of echoes and ricochets so one guy shooting a rifle sounds like it is coming from multiple places so witnesses will absolutely swear that there is more than one shooter even though there isn’t.

    The threshold for one guy going nuts is much much lower than for a conspiracy. Franklin said “Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead.”

    The most likely assumption is also that if blacks are stirred up about the police shooting them then it will be a black who is taking revenge. Again it’s not impossible for it to be otherwise, but it’s not likely either and your working assumption should be the obvious one – the sound of hoofbeats means you should think horses and not zebras. If your working assumption is otherwise, then chances are your thinking is distorted by false assumptions – “blacks are not capable of planning such a complex operation”, “blacks could never do such a thing”, etc.

    So the most obvious candidate would have been a lone, black gunman and it turns out that it was a lone black gunman. Surprise, surprise.

    Occam’s Razor wins again.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    The latest from the (black) Dallas police chief goes as follows:


    "We had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot," Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters at City Hall.

    "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," said Brown, who is black. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."

    In talking with police negotiators, the suspect said he was not affiliated with any group and acted alone, according to Brown.
     

    So it may have been just one black guy, but if so, I am expecting ex-serviceman. However, it is absolutely clear that it was a "hate crime" directed against white people because of #BLM. You are right about the urban canyon effect: I saw a tweet with video late last night and the shots were echoing 2-3 times per round. But for all that it did sound like single shot rapid fire.

    I can go with the one shooter argument.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Luke Lea

  289. @jill
    @SPMoore8

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    Police radio traffic before the stop:

    http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

    The backstory on the convenience store robbery that Castile may have been involved in

    http://tinyurl.com/j9qv2uu

    Archived facebook photos of Castile

    https://archive.is/PLtGI

    Castile and Reynolds smoking dope with the child in the backseat

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689259671337725&id=100007611243538

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @SPMoore8, @Paul Jolliffe

    Minnesota governor (Farmer Labor) Dayton has stated in public that Castile would be alive if he were white. No comment, except to say I’m really feeling quite occupied this morning, and not in a good sense. Occupied by a hostile government.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @WhatEvvs

    Yeah that was unbelievable.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

  290. @jill
    @SPMoore8

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    Police radio traffic before the stop:

    http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

    The backstory on the convenience store robbery that Castile may have been involved in

    http://tinyurl.com/j9qv2uu

    Archived facebook photos of Castile

    https://archive.is/PLtGI

    Castile and Reynolds smoking dope with the child in the backseat

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689259671337725&id=100007611243538

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @SPMoore8, @Paul Jolliffe

    You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    If you ever get any hard evidence on that, let me know. Otherwise, it looks like a police officer shot an unarmed man who was strapped into his seat.

  291. Many commenters underestimate blacks. For a little sniping, you don´t have to have IQ 150.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not to mention that millions of America blacks have military training and experience. The military starts with blacks of somewhat above average (for blacks) intelligence and is highly experienced and effective in teaching specific tasks to people with less than rocket science IQ (and one of those tasks is frequently shooting). Something as complex as an aircraft carrier is operated mostly by 19 year olds with high school degrees who did not graduate anywhere near the top of their class. The reason it works is that each one is repetitively trained to do his limited task.

    , @woodNfish
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I'm surprised it took anyone this long to start doing it. I am surprised whites don't do it because cops murder many more whites than blacks every year, the LLSM just won't cover it.

  292. @Anonymous
    I don't know if this is a general Democrat strategy. It may be more of the Obama faction strategy:

    " Hacked messages of #BlackLivesMatter leader reveal Obama admin’s plan for ‘summer of chaos’ and martial law"

    https://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2016/07/hacked-messages-reveal-obama-admins.html

    U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch is coordinating with Democratic activists to so disrupt the upcoming Republican and Democratic National Conventions that martial law will be declared.

    That’s the stunning discovery revealed in a series of direct messages between three activists.

    On Friday, June 10, 2016, someone hacked into the Twitter account of #BlackLivesMatter (BLM) leader and former Baltimore mayoral candidateDeRay McKesson. McKesson later confirmed the hack to The Baltimore Sun.

    On June 11, 2016, a Twitterer who calls himself The Saint (@TheSaintNegro) tweeted a direct-message conversation on June 10 between KcKesson and another BLM leader Johnetta Elzie (Netta), in which the two discussed talking with Attorney General Loretta Lynch about plans to bring on martial law by causing chaos at the upcoming Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, and the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, PA, so as to keep Obama in office.
     

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @citizen

    Interesting, but most I-Steve commenters apparently do not believe in conspiracy theories.

  293. @Dirk Dagger
    @SPMoore8


    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.
     
    Good "on the other hand" hedge.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Watching the video of the one guy shooting the police officer behind the pillar, it looks like whoever they were they were ex-military or possibly even terrorists.

    Rage or revenge shootings by African Americans are not known for their accuracy. Therefore, the initial take would definitely be some white guys with a lot of experience with weapons. But I am certainly all in favor of equal opportunity for snipers. Just what this country needs: highly trained and disciplined #BLM shooters.

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @SPMoore8

    May I present exhibit A.
    The Freddie's fashion mart massacre that Rev. Al (Qaeda) Sharpton incited against a Jewish owned store in Harlem for evicting a tenant of theirs proclaiming "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business".
    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/09/nyregion/death-on-128th-street-the-victims-bad-luck-and-horror-for-7-in-an-store.html

    Names of the victims are:


    BRUNNER, Kareem, 23, security guard. GARCIA, Olga, 19. MARRERO, Angeline, 19. MARTINEZ, Cynthia, 19. RAMANTAR, Garnette, 43, store manager. RAMOS, Luz, 20, salesclerk. RENTAS, Mayra, 22.
     
    I don't think sharpton's boy managed to kill a single white or Jew, all the victims look black or Hispanic.
  294. Thea says:
    @Jefferson
    Barack Hussein Obama's sons are responsible for murdering these police officers in Dallas, yet the Liberals on the comments section of The Huffington Post are all blaming this on White Christian Republican Donald Trump supporters, just like they did with the Orlando terrorist attack.

    Since when did Donald Trump supporters side with Black Lies Matter over the police? The Huffington Post attracts all of the retards from the Left.

    White Christian Republicans are to The Huffington Post like what Jews are to Stormfront.

    At Huffington everything bad in the world are blamed on White Christian Republicans

    Replies: @Thea

    Pretty much. Battle lines have been drawn, emotions are bubbling over and reason will not prevail.

    The media & powers that be wanted a race war to distract the masses and keep themselves in power. They now have it.

    I just don’t see anyway this nation can avoid a bloodbath as each side is out for revenge against real or imagined wrongs. This seems to be escallating and none of our leaders look able to heal it. Not Trump not Clinton. No one.

    It reminds me of Yeats “Second Coming” poem.

  295. @The most deplorable one
    @SPMoore8


    I doubt if the Dallas snipers were black. My guess is that they were white hipster anarchists. This was a well planned and highly disciplined assault. On the other hand, the Beltway snipers were black, so, who knows.
     
    We already know that one of the suspects has all but been identified as black (because he wanted to kill white people.)

    As VoxDay suggests, this is likely an example of 4th GW, where a bunch of armed blacks have individually decided that enough is enough.

    My take is that the media has riled them up so much that they (the media) have lit the fuse of CW2, with blacks ready to start it.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    The situation is still very fluid, so we all have to admit that we are speculating here. The fact that a black organization has claimed credit: even that is not definitive. I will say that the video of the one guy murdering the cop behind the pillar looked like someone who knew what he was doing in an urban environment: read military, or possibly terrorist.

    I actually think the race of the shooters is less important than the reason for the shootings: if it was done to promote #BLM, we have a problem regardless of the race of the shooters.

  296. @Wilkey
    @Rob McX

    "As lots of commenters have pointed out, the discipline and planning are not characteristic of an outburst of black rage."

    Yeah, because it's a like the D.C. snipers, and we all know that those guys were white.

    Black radicals are completely incapable of planning anything like a crime or a political rally or anything, ya know?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Jack D

    A lot of the early thinking was distorted by the fact that the police and press were reporting multiple shooter, multiple arrests, etc. pointing to a conspiracy (not that blacks are incapable of conspiracies either – there are some black drug gangs of considerable size). A lone shooter requires much less “discipline and planning”. It would not be surprising if the shooter turns out to have some military or other weapons training – there are plenty of blacks in the US military. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper’s nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you’re all set.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Jack D

    That's what I was thinking. There were reports that it was a planned attack involving several conspirators, one of whom was alleged to have committed suicide. It didn't sound typical of something carried out by blacks.

    , @peterike
    @Jack D


    You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper’s nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you’re all set.

     

    Precisely. I think a lot of people who have never shot a gun think it's some kind of incredibly difficult thing to do. It isn't. It's quite easy, in fact. I've had no military training and I've never shot anything bigger than a woodchuck, but I could sit up in a garage and knock off people quite easily. You don't have to be a sniper who can pluck someone off at 500 yards. The cops were basically right in front of him. And if you have somewhere to rest the gun, it's a cinch.
  297. @Psmith

    one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb
     
    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thirdtwin, @Anonymous Nephew, @John Mansfield, @Percy Gryce, @Perplexed

    “Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?”

    No. But maybe Dallas PD decided they’d lost enough officers for one day.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

  298. @Unladen Swallow
    @OilcanFloyd

    I said that was the spin, not that it made any sense. After all, CNN thinks semi-automatics and fully automatic weapons are the same thing as well.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    I was commenting on the CNN spin. Sorry if you you took my comment as a jab.

  299. @Bardon Kaldian
    Many commenters underestimate blacks. For a little sniping, you don´t have to have IQ 150.

    Replies: @Jack D, @woodNfish

    Not to mention that millions of America blacks have military training and experience. The military starts with blacks of somewhat above average (for blacks) intelligence and is highly experienced and effective in teaching specific tasks to people with less than rocket science IQ (and one of those tasks is frequently shooting). Something as complex as an aircraft carrier is operated mostly by 19 year olds with high school degrees who did not graduate anywhere near the top of their class. The reason it works is that each one is repetitively trained to do his limited task.

  300. @AndyBoy
    It's the yuppy Whites who actually made this happen. The hipsters. The SWPLs.

    They stabbed the mass of Whites in the back with policies and narratives that led to this.

    Tell me again how cool they are.

    Replies: @Marcus

    Sadly, even many “alt-right” people here think SWPL’s are preferable to those icky rednecks, i.e. the people who have actual jobs and keep their limp wrists safe.

  301. This has become a focus among blacks because (due to their higher rate of offending) blacks are in contact with the police a lot more often (the guy in Minnesota had been stopped by the cops 31 times before – 32 was his unlucky #), but really this a police problem, not a black problem.

    It’s not just crime rates, it’s knucklehead rates, too. In fact, my guess is the knucklehead factor matters more.

    And from what I can infer, my guess (I could easily have this wrong) is that one of the cops who was killed was shot while the suspect was surrounded. He had an AR and body armor, after all. It’s not like he was sitting around baking cookies.

    As for sleeping gas, there’s no such thing. There’s gas that puts you to sleep with just the right dose, kills you with too high a dose, and doesn’t do much with too low a dose. We don’t even know where he was holed up, and if it was enclosed enough for gas to be a practical option.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  302. @WhatEvvs
    @jill

    Minnesota governor (Farmer Labor) Dayton has stated in public that Castile would be alive if he were white. No comment, except to say I'm really feeling quite occupied this morning, and not in a good sense. Occupied by a hostile government.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Yeah that was unbelievable.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @AndrewR

    Not really. He's Farmer-Labor, that's Democrat on steroids. Or would that be estrogen?

  303. @The most deplorable one
    @Matra

    It's nice of you to tell us what you think of Libertarians but you seem to be ignorant of Vox Day's political orientation.

    I believe he claims he is a member of the alt-Right these days.

    Replies: @Matra, @Pat Hannagan

    I’m aware of his political orientation. He has libertarian views on policing. In a country with tens of millions of blacks that is not possible.

  304. But yeah, my first reaction when I heard that they sent a bomb in on a robot and blew this asshole up was, “holy shit!” Never even heard of that before. Never in a million years would I have guessed Dallas PD would have the doctrine or equipment to do that.

    I’m sure the leftist corporate media are breathing easier, now that he’s conveniently dead.

  305. Awaiting comment from GeniusTCoates.

  306. @Svigor
    "Coordinated and effective," lol. "Hey, you set up over there, and I'll set up over here, and when the cops come along bringing up the rear, we start shooting."

    Yeah, real Green Beret stuff here.

    Sorry if you're dismayed by this reality, but, ambushing non-military targets in a non-warzone is about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker, @Diversity Heretic

    It wasn’t even that complex – it appears that it was only 1 guy.

    There is a natural human tendency to think that the enormity of the actor must be commensurate with the enormity of the act. If a President or a dozen cops, etc. have been shot, it can’t just be one pathetic mentally deranged loser with a rifle, it has to have been a grand conspiracy or the shooter must have been a highly trained terrorist, etc. How is it possible that the mighty can brought low by the humble? The cognitive dissonance that is set up by such a situation is what gives rise to conspiracy theories. If on the one hand it’s “impossible” for such a thing to happen, but on the other hand it HAS happened, then what we see before our eyes cannot be true and there must be some other “better” explanation.

  307. @Svigor

    So the police can just shoot any motorist for “noncompliance” at a whim?
     
    Your framing is tendentious. The police are going to do what they're going to do (yes, that's a whole other, valid conversation). What we do during a stop is all we can fully control. And I submit that, based on everything I've read, the fellow in Minnesota could easily have avoided being shot and killed, if he'd just had a bit of common sense, like, don't inform an officer that you have a gun as you reach for it. Obviously the cop shouldn't have shot him, but the lesson is that he isn't the one who will soon be pushing up daisies. In other words, nobody's as invested in keeping you alive as you are.

    FFS, you'd think this shit would be rote, given all the whingeing blacks do about police harassment, BLM, etc.

    Replies: @Thea, @Jack D

    The same logic applies to “date rape” or campus rapes.

    And yet it is anathema to suggest adults behave with common sense, follow social cues or exercise self restraint.

  308. Real sniping in military parlance refers to precision shooting from a position of cover at targets 600 to 1000 yards away.

    In military parlance. Police snipers typically engage at much closer ranges.

  309. @AKAHorace
    This could be a good opportunity for Obama to look presidential by disowning the BLM organization or at least calling them to account.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin, @AndrewR, @e

    Two black guests on Fox last night called Obama the “Agitator-in-Chief.” True, that.

  310. @Jack D
    @SPMoore8

    You really have to discount early news reports. While it's not impossible for there to be multiple snipers plural, 99.9% of the time there's only one. In an urban canyon you get lots of echoes and ricochets so one guy shooting a rifle sounds like it is coming from multiple places so witnesses will absolutely swear that there is more than one shooter even though there isn't.

    The threshold for one guy going nuts is much much lower than for a conspiracy. Franklin said "Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead."

    The most likely assumption is also that if blacks are stirred up about the police shooting them then it will be a black who is taking revenge. Again it's not impossible for it to be otherwise, but it's not likely either and your working assumption should be the obvious one - the sound of hoofbeats means you should think horses and not zebras. If your working assumption is otherwise, then chances are your thinking is distorted by false assumptions - "blacks are not capable of planning such a complex operation", "blacks could never do such a thing", etc.

    So the most obvious candidate would have been a lone, black gunman and it turns out that it was a lone black gunman. Surprise, surprise.

    Occam's Razor wins again.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    The latest from the (black) Dallas police chief goes as follows:

    “We had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot,” Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters at City Hall.

    “The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter,” said Brown, who is black. “He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

    In talking with police negotiators, the suspect said he was not affiliated with any group and acted alone, according to Brown.

    So it may have been just one black guy, but if so, I am expecting ex-serviceman. However, it is absolutely clear that it was a “hate crime” directed against white people because of #BLM. You are right about the urban canyon effect: I saw a tweet with video late last night and the shots were echoing 2-3 times per round. But for all that it did sound like single shot rapid fire.

    I can go with the one shooter argument.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @SPMoore8

    Photo here:

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/07/07/report-cops-shot-dallas-protest/

    Also, identified as ex military.

    Also, still saying three more arrested.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Luke Lea
    @SPMoore8

    "I can go with the one shooter argument."

    What about the shooter on the sidewalk that gunned down policeman at point blank range? If only one gunman, did he leave garage and go into the street, then retreat back to the garage?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Spmoore8

  311. @iSteveFan
    @V Vega


    Can we officially designate BLM as a domestic terror organization now?
     
    After the South Carolina shooting last year, the Confederate flag was deemed offensive and brought down nationwide. Sales of it in major stores ceased.

    Will something similar occur with BLM now? Wouldn't BLM at least become toxic enough that a major party presidential candidate will no longer seek its approval?

    Yes, I know the answer in advance.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

    BLM provides the “muscle” for the demokrat party. They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    • Replies: @Drakejax
    @Connecticut Famer

    To be historically accurate, you mean what the SA (Sturm Abteilung or storm detachments) were to the Nazi Party. The SA were party, not government, people. The Gestapo were government employees for the "secret state police" which Gestapo was the official German acronym for. The Gestapo equivalent today for the Democrats would appear to be the FBI.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    , @CJ
    @Connecticut Famer

    They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    You've got a point, but they are more like the storm troopers of the Democrats, not the Gestapo. Gestapo were an organized secret police who arrested and interrogated suspects after the NSDAP took power. Storm troopers attacked the opponents of the NSDAP at public events before and after 1933, but weren't needed once power had been consolidated.

  312. @Anonymous Nephew
    @Psmith

    "Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?"

    No. But maybe Dallas PD decided they'd lost enough officers for one day.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can’t you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    I just hope the shooter's name isn't Lyntavious Jacquizz Oswald.

    And I hope he wasn't killed with the "Jack" Robot.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    , @iSteveFan
    @Jack D

    Yeah, if the robot can be a suicide bomber, why can't it be an anesthetist? Even the military will sometimes wound a guy that they could have easily killed so that they can interrogate him.

    , @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Jack D

    Most of that stuff isn't 100% effective. From what I read about that gorilla incident, tranquilizer darts take a while to sedate victims. And we all know how effective stun guns can be from the Alton Sterling incident.
    On the other hand blowing someone is a time-tested highly successful way of stopping people.

    , @Discordiax
    @Jack D

    I'm not an expert here, but I'm pretty sure the robot is property of the Bomb Squad (or whatever the Dallas PD bomb squad is called.)

    IT's designed and it exists to safely handle bombs. One way is a controlled detonation. (Keep people out of a certain radius, and the robot explosion sets off the main explosion)

    There were rumors swirling earlier that he died from a combination of the bomb-squad bomb and his bomb.

    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.

    Replies: @woodNfish, @Jack D

    , @peterike
    @Jack D


    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can’t you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

     

    Because if you're sending in a robot with a bomb in the first place, the person on the receiving end probably deserves to die. Thank goodness they blew up this scum, else we'd be hearing from him and about him endlessly for years. He would be the next Mumia Abu-Jamal. As it is, he's probably already a hero on Black Twitter and being endlessly excused on SJW Twitter. I'm not going to look myself because it's hard to feel clean after seeing something like that.
  313. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    The latest from the (black) Dallas police chief goes as follows:


    "We had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot," Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters at City Hall.

    "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," said Brown, who is black. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."

    In talking with police negotiators, the suspect said he was not affiliated with any group and acted alone, according to Brown.
     

    So it may have been just one black guy, but if so, I am expecting ex-serviceman. However, it is absolutely clear that it was a "hate crime" directed against white people because of #BLM. You are right about the urban canyon effect: I saw a tweet with video late last night and the shots were echoing 2-3 times per round. But for all that it did sound like single shot rapid fire.

    I can go with the one shooter argument.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Luke Lea

    Photo here:

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/07/07/report-cops-shot-dallas-protest/

    Also, identified as ex military.

    Also, still saying three more arrested.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @The most deplorable one

    I would bet that the other three have nothing to do with the shooting. In a confused situation like this, they often arrest a bunch of people ("round up the usual suspects") and then (if they are lucky and they haven't beaten false confessions out of them) in a day or two (especially with the real criminal known) they say "never mind" and let them go. If they hadn't found the real shooter then they might have held on to these poor saps for god knows how long in order to save face.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  314. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

    I just hope the shooter’s name isn’t Lyntavious Jacquizz Oswald.

    And I hope he wasn’t killed with the “Jack” Robot.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @SPMoore8

    Micah Xavier Johnson? I knew the Jesuits had to be behind this.

  315. You should be more informed before you comment. The Minnesota shooting may be another Ferguson redux

    If you ever get any hard evidence on that, let me know. Otherwise, it looks like a police officer shot an unarmed man who was strapped into his seat.

    The guy had a gun. Even his baby mama has repeatedly announced that to the world.

  316. @Anonymous
    With all due respect to obvious false flag operations & soldiers of fortune what is the likelihood of an ISIS-BLM team-up in the near future (including a symbiosis where BLM is the sea for the jihadfish to swim in)? We know from Mateen that born-again Muslims raised on an American media diet of blacks as the upper-shelf AAA-grade victims are under the impression of some solidarity with their transracial confreres. On the other hand Islamic prestige among blacks in N. America seems to be at a post-70s low. I think this is because blacks sense on a subconscious level that the decline of Christian pastoral authority hasn't been as fun for them as it has been for whites, so they are suspicious of the top anti-Christian outfit making the scene. Look at how Obama reacted to Scott Walker declining to rate him Christian-- You would think a globo-cultured academic-life Volvo driver like Obama would not automatically treat that as an insult. Obama is more ingrained with secularity and LGBT tolerance than any President ever but takes pains to affect an AME preacher tonality when he is participating in Civil Rights rituals. I think ISIS probably, like the rest of the world, looks on American blacks with more disgusted pity than true fellow-feeling. That doesn't preclude them cynically lurking behind black populations which are both more strategically urban and far less scrutinized by the modern FBI-DHS-NSA-ATF than our comparatively tiny, concentrated Muslim populations full of goatherds who don't speak English.

    Replies: @Olorin

    what is the likelihood of an ISIS-BLM team-up in the near future

    Sundance (The Conservative Treehouse) has been predicting, and observing, this for upwards of four years now.

  317. The guy in the photo turned himself in. Apparently not related to the shootings at all.

    He was open carrying an AR (legal in TX) with the parade – sorry, “peaceful protest” – and a cop photographed him, so early on they naturally assumed he might be involved.

  318. @Psmith

    one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb
     
    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thirdtwin, @Anonymous Nephew, @John Mansfield, @Percy Gryce, @Perplexed

    I had no idea police even had bombs. I also find disturbing the police departments that have switched to black shirts.

  319. @Dr. X
    @Daniel Williams


    So what’s the endgame?
     
    Hillary's national gun control law. (The cops won't give up theirs, of course.)

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    Hillary’s national gun control law. (The cops won’t give up theirs, of course.)

    Nor will the gangbangers.

  320. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

    Yeah, if the robot can be a suicide bomber, why can’t it be an anesthetist? Even the military will sometimes wound a guy that they could have easily killed so that they can interrogate him.

  321. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    If it was just one gunman, he was more effective than Christopher Dorner.

  322. I wonder how many Syrians want to resettle here now?
    Btw Assad would like them back

  323. @The most deplorable one
    @Matra

    It's nice of you to tell us what you think of Libertarians but you seem to be ignorant of Vox Day's political orientation.

    I believe he claims he is a member of the alt-Right these days.

    Replies: @Matra, @Pat Hannagan

    He also rejects being referred to as White. He prefers to identify as an American Indian with Mexican ancestry (great grandfather rode with Pancho Villa or something like that). In his interview with The Right Stuff he got annoyed with their jocular rebuff of this identification and is adamantly serious about it. He rejects any identification as White.

    He’s described himself as libertarian-nationalist and Christian-Zionist.

  324. @Federalist
    @Jack D

    "If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?"

    Because it's not an episode of Batman.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The Russians did this once when there was a theater full of people being held hostage by Chechen terrorists. They pumped the place full of fentanyl gas – more or less the same stuff that killed Prince. It knocked the terrorists out and “only” killed 1/5 of the people in the theater and that number was increased by the fact that the Russian authorities (in typical Russian fashion) refused to tell the emergency doctors what gas they had used (military secret) and did not have any antidotes ready.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Jack D

    I wouldn't be too hard on the Russians for that. They needed something potent to instantly knock out those terrorists who all had bombs and might have detonated them if they had suspected something was afoot.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Jack D

    The people there died not so much from anesthia toxicity but because their tongues occluded their airways and they suffocated.

    , @Federalist
    @Jack D

    Totally different.

    The Russians were dealing with terrorists in an enclosed building. In Dallas, the police were dealing with a guy in a semi-open parking garage (and the police were in the garage, too). You can't just pump in gas. Also, in a long drawn out hostage situation, the Russians had time to plan and arrange for the resources necessary to pump the building full of gas. In Dallas, they were more or less in a paused firefight with both sides behind cover.

    In Russia, there were hostages to consider. In Dallas, there were not.

    In Russia, the terrorists were holed up in a building. Essentially, the terrorists were not coming out and the only other option for the Russians was a head on assault of the building with almost certain mass casualties to the police/military forces and the hostages. Until and unless the Russians went in though, the terrorists were inside and the Russians were outside. In Dallas, the murderer was behind cover, but would shoot any police officer who exposed himself. If not for the bomb, they would have just had to shoot it out and possibly got even more cops killed. Bullets only go straight. That's why in combat things like hand grenades are used. If you can't shoot over/through/behind some kind of barrier, you can just lob a grenade over the top without exposing yourself to enemy fire.

    In Dallas, they had a robot that could carry over a small bomb without exposing any humans to fire. Assuming you can detonate it remotely, you really only need something like a remote controlled car to carry the bomb. With a bomb, you just need to get close. You are looking for a robot that can go and spray someone in the face with some kind of sleeping gas, that is certainly not readily available. It's the same with all of these ideas of the robot shooting tranquilizer darts or throwing nets over people, etc. This robot isn't R2D2 from Star Wars. It's not sophisticated enough to do all of that. But it can roll up near someone and blow up.

    Replies: @Jack D

  325. What gets me is how consistently W-R-O-N-G the libertardian anti-cop types here have gotten all three situations (Minnesota, Louisiana, Texas). Spectacularly and repeatedly wrong.

    Shows heavy bias, wishful thinking. This is probably the wrong venue for you clowns.

    Minnesota governor (Farmer Labor) Dayton has stated in public that Castile would be alive if he were white. No comment, except to say I’m really feeling quite occupied this morning, and not in a good sense. Occupied by a hostile government.

    Asshat Minnesota voters deserve him, for the most part.

  326. iSteveFan says:

    For anyone old enough to remember the LA Riots of 1992, recall the division over whether to label the event as a riot or uprising. To people on one side of the aisle, it was a riot. To those on the other side, mostly blacks, it was an uprising. I remember seeing a black celebrity on TV correcting a white anchor when that anchor referred to the “riots”. I suppose uprising made them feel justified.

    Now I see people referring to last night as terrorism. I assume most on this blog will run with that term which to me seems appropriate. But will the democrats and their coalition refer to last night as a terrorist attack? Or will they come up with a euphemism to make it sound justified?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    The attack last night was terrorism in a classic sense (collective punishment to inspire terror in the target population, here, white cops) and it was also a "hate crime" (as much as I dislike the word) because it was directed towards killing white cops.

    Look, the one doesn't justify the other. Many people feel that too many civilians are being shot by police officers. That doesn't justify this shooting. By the same token, condemning this terror attack doesn't justify cops shooting civilians, either.

    I doubt the media will call it what it is. They'll just ride "lone gunman" real hard and try to ban AR-15's, again. However, I would imagine that just about anyone in this country who doesn't have one yet will be lining up to get one after last night.

    Replies: @rod1963

  327. @Jack D
    @Federalist

    The Russians did this once when there was a theater full of people being held hostage by Chechen terrorists. They pumped the place full of fentanyl gas - more or less the same stuff that killed Prince. It knocked the terrorists out and "only" killed 1/5 of the people in the theater and that number was increased by the fact that the Russian authorities (in typical Russian fashion) refused to tell the emergency doctors what gas they had used (military secret) and did not have any antidotes ready.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jack Hanson, @Federalist

    I wouldn’t be too hard on the Russians for that. They needed something potent to instantly knock out those terrorists who all had bombs and might have detonated them if they had suspected something was afoot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    The idea to use knockout gas was not bad and better than having all 850 hostages blown up, but I do blame them for not telling the doctors what gas they had used and not having Narcan ready and waiting to revive the hostages. Many more lives could have been saved.

    Historically, Russian governments show a penchant (1) not to value human life highly, even the lives of their own citizens, (2) for secrecy and propagating lies/disinformation even to the point where it kills people and (3) toward execution of plans in a way that is often crude but effective, if lacking in finesse. The theater incident was of a piece with all of these aspects of their national character. Americans have their own character flaws that might have gotten even more people killed (or maybe even all of them) but this does not excuse Russian character flaws either.

  328. @Harry Baldwin
    @Talha

    No sniper-type activity?

    Mark James Robert Essex was an African-American mass murderer who killed nine people, including five policemen, and wounded 13 others in New Orleans on December 31, 1972 and January 7, 1973.

    From Wikipedia:


    Mark James Robert Essex was born in Emporia, Kansas. After graduating from Emporia Senior High School in 1967, Essex attended Emporia State University, where he dropped out after only one semester. He joined the United States Navy as a dental technician in 1969, stationed in San Diego, California, where he claimed he was subjected to two years of ceaseless racial abuse.

    He went absent without leave (AWOL) from October 19 until November 16, 1970. He was given a general discharge for unsuitability on 10 February 1971, for "character and behavior disorders". After his discharge, he became involved with black radicals in San Francisco, California, and later joined the New York Black Panthers.
     

    Replies: @Talha

    I do declare – I stand corrected – thanks! I reading up on the Black Panthers, AIM and other political movements during my time at UCLA. I specifically read up on the hey-days in the 60s, this seems to have occurred after that period – I was completely unaware of it.

    Peace.

  329. Its never a good idea to accept at face value the story that issues forth from black ‘eyewiitnesse or even their video ‘evidence’ They tend to lie or leave out important points. The Conservative Treehouse has a much more plausible explanation for the shooting pf Castile.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/#more-118450

    He closely resembles an armed robber and his social media indicates he was a ‘Crip’ gang member. This story will turn out like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin is my guess. Another racial hoax promoted by the President with even more tragic consequences.

  330. Has Hillary finished poll-testing her statement on the Dallas killings yet?

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @David In TN

    She cancelled a speech today where she was going to discuss the recent deaths of the two black guys killed by cops.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @David In TN

  331. @Jack D
    @Federalist

    The Russians did this once when there was a theater full of people being held hostage by Chechen terrorists. They pumped the place full of fentanyl gas - more or less the same stuff that killed Prince. It knocked the terrorists out and "only" killed 1/5 of the people in the theater and that number was increased by the fact that the Russian authorities (in typical Russian fashion) refused to tell the emergency doctors what gas they had used (military secret) and did not have any antidotes ready.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jack Hanson, @Federalist

    The people there died not so much from anesthia toxicity but because their tongues occluded their airways and they suffocated.

  332. I think we could also be entering a long, slow burn war like that in Israel. Identities are crystallizing in opposition to one another just as they did after 1948.

    Unlike Israel, we have a large “neutral” third party that could either mediate or escalate the crisis.

  333. The police officer stopped the car because Castile matched the description of a Black who was filmed robbing a store three days earlier.

    This is why you handle police stops with exaggerated care and deliberation; you have no clue what’s going on at the other end, and vice-versa, and the life lost will probably be your own.

    part of being a cop is wrestling with crazy people. If you are a “geek” learn to code.

    Fat, weak cops are just as ridiculous as female firefighters.

    Pretty much every female cop fails your criterion. I’m not sure it’s a valid one, at least, not according to the cops, and the people who set the rules for cops.

  334. @SPMoore8
    @Dirk Dagger

    Watching the video of the one guy shooting the police officer behind the pillar, it looks like whoever they were they were ex-military or possibly even terrorists.

    Rage or revenge shootings by African Americans are not known for their accuracy. Therefore, the initial take would definitely be some white guys with a lot of experience with weapons. But I am certainly all in favor of equal opportunity for snipers. Just what this country needs: highly trained and disciplined #BLM shooters.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    May I present exhibit A.
    The Freddie’s fashion mart massacre that Rev. Al (Qaeda) Sharpton incited against a Jewish owned store in Harlem for evicting a tenant of theirs proclaiming “We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business”.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/09/nyregion/death-on-128th-street-the-victims-bad-luck-and-horror-for-7-in-an-store.html

    Names of the victims are:

    BRUNNER, Kareem, 23, security guard. GARCIA, Olga, 19. MARRERO, Angeline, 19. MARTINEZ, Cynthia, 19. RAMANTAR, Garnette, 43, store manager. RAMOS, Luz, 20, salesclerk. RENTAS, Mayra, 22.

    I don’t think sharpton’s boy managed to kill a single white or Jew, all the victims look black or Hispanic.

  335. An IRA of our very own. Black Lives Matter is now a certified, protected hate group with violent offshoots/franchisees that do their murder for them. The press, cops and ruling class will do as little as possible showing the obvious Black-On-White violence and the result.

    I never thought I’d see the day that Texas’ Boys wouldn’t join THAT fight. So much for “Don’t Mess With Texas”. It won’t be a civil war. The Whites that would have been fighting back in-kind are castrated.

  336. @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    I just hope the shooter's name isn't Lyntavious Jacquizz Oswald.

    And I hope he wasn't killed with the "Jack" Robot.

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger

    Micah Xavier Johnson? I knew the Jesuits had to be behind this.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  337. @AndrewR
    @Jefferson

    You're assuming that the fundamental racial divide in the US is "white" vs "non-white."

    The Dems certainly try to frame it so but in reality the divide is black vs nonblack.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    Obongo was tripping over himself in his speech to pretend that hispanics have a stake in anti-police agitation.
    He’s been pretty unsuccessful at this so far. I don’t think Mestizos are the natural race baiters the Democrats want them to be.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  338. @Ron Unz
    @Clyde



    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.
     
    Actually, I think a number of police officers may have been assassinated by the Black Panthers in Oakland back then, and probably some others around the country. But nothing like so many at one time by this planned sniper attack. And even during the huge, deadly riots around the country, there weren't any deadly sniper ambushes like this.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Harry Baldwin, @Jefferson

    The Balck Liberation Army killed a number of police officers.
    Wikipedia:

    According to a Justice Department report on BLA activity, the Black Liberation Army is suspected of involvement in over 70 incidents of violence between 1970 and 1976. The Fraternal Order of Police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers.

    On October 22, 1970, the BLA is believed to have planted a bomb in St. Brendan’s Church in San Francisco while it was full of mourners attending the funeral of San Francisco police officer Harold Hamilton, who had been killed in the line of duty while responding to a bank robbery. The bomb was detonated, but no one in the church suffered serious injuries.

    On May 21, 1971, as many as five men participated in the murder of two New York City police officers, Joseph Piagentini and Waverly Jones. Those arrested and brought to trial for the shootings include Anthony Bottom (aka Jalil Muntaqim), Albert Washington, Francisco Torres, Gabriel Torres, and Herman Bell.

    On August 29, 1971, three armed men murdered 51-year-old San Francisco police sergeant John Victor Young while he was working at a desk in his police station, which was almost empty at the time due to a bombing attack on a bank that took place earlier – only one other officer and a civilian clerk were there. Two days later, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter signed by the BLA claiming responsibility for the attack.

    On January 27, 1972 the Black Liberation Army assassinated police officers Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie at the corner of 174 Avenue B in New York City. After the killings, a note sent to authorities portrayed the murders as a retaliation for the prisoner deaths during 1971 Attica prison riot. To date no arrests have been made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liberation_Army

  339. @iSteveFan
    For anyone old enough to remember the LA Riots of 1992, recall the division over whether to label the event as a riot or uprising. To people on one side of the aisle, it was a riot. To those on the other side, mostly blacks, it was an uprising. I remember seeing a black celebrity on TV correcting a white anchor when that anchor referred to the "riots". I suppose uprising made them feel justified.

    Now I see people referring to last night as terrorism. I assume most on this blog will run with that term which to me seems appropriate. But will the democrats and their coalition refer to last night as a terrorist attack? Or will they come up with a euphemism to make it sound justified?

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    The attack last night was terrorism in a classic sense (collective punishment to inspire terror in the target population, here, white cops) and it was also a “hate crime” (as much as I dislike the word) because it was directed towards killing white cops.

    Look, the one doesn’t justify the other. Many people feel that too many civilians are being shot by police officers. That doesn’t justify this shooting. By the same token, condemning this terror attack doesn’t justify cops shooting civilians, either.

    I doubt the media will call it what it is. They’ll just ride “lone gunman” real hard and try to ban AR-15’s, again. However, I would imagine that just about anyone in this country who doesn’t have one yet will be lining up to get one after last night.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @SPMoore8

    It's really funny how the BLM crowd and white liberals are dead silent when blacks butcher blacks as in Chicago or Sac town.

    It's not really about dead black bodies. It's about power and shaking down cities for $$$.

    The reason why Blacks are shot so often is simple. Blacks are disproportionately responsible for most crime in this country and a majority of murders as well.

    To them crime is a legit career option.

    They get nailed and then they bitch and riot.

    Alton Sterling was a armed thug who sold black market items on the street who resisted arrest and tried to reach for his gun and died. He was also a giant of a man at 6'4" and 300 lbs. Two cops would be taxed out to handle a resisting suspect his size. I don't blame the cops for ventilating the monster when he reached for his gun.

    The other clown was a known gang member, who had been already pulled over by cops some 30 times(so he knew the drill). Who just happen to fit the profile of a black man who just robbed a convenience store a few days earlier. He too made a mistake after telling cops he had a gun, he reached for his waist. Had he simply asked for clarification from the officer while keeping his hands on the steering wheel he'd still be alive. He didn't.

  340. @Ron Unz
    @Clyde



    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.
     
    Actually, I think a number of police officers may have been assassinated by the Black Panthers in Oakland back then, and probably some others around the country. But nothing like so many at one time by this planned sniper attack. And even during the huge, deadly riots around the country, there weren't any deadly sniper ambushes like this.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Harry Baldwin, @Jefferson

    The Black Liberation Army killed a number of police officers.
    Wikipedia:

    According to a Justice Department report on BLA activity, the Black Liberation Army is suspected of involvement in over 70 incidents of violence between 1970 and 1976. The Fraternal Order of Police blames the BLA for the murders of 13 police officers.

    On October 22, 1970, the BLA is believed to have planted a bomb in St. Brendan’s Church in San Francisco while it was full of mourners attending the funeral of San Francisco police officer Harold Hamilton, who had been killed in the line of duty while responding to a bank robbery. The bomb was detonated, but no one in the church suffered serious injuries.

    On May 21, 1971, as many as five men participated in the murder of two New York City police officers, Joseph Piagentini and Waverly Jones. Those arrested and brought to trial for the shootings include Anthony Bottom (aka Jalil Muntaqim), Albert Washington, Francisco Torres, Gabriel Torres, and Herman Bell.

    On August 29, 1971, three armed men murdered 51-year-old San Francisco police sergeant John Victor Young while he was working at a desk in his police station, which was almost empty at the time due to a bombing attack on a bank that took place earlier – only one other officer and a civilian clerk were there. Two days later, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter signed by the BLA claiming responsibility for the attack.

    On January 27, 1972 the Black Liberation Army assassinated police officers Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie at the corner of 174 Avenue B in New York City. After the killings, a note sent to authorities portrayed the murders as a retaliation for the prisoner deaths during 1971 Attica prison riot. To date no arrests have been made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liberation_Army

  341. @Anonymous
    I don't know if this is a general Democrat strategy. It may be more of the Obama faction strategy:

    " Hacked messages of #BlackLivesMatter leader reveal Obama admin’s plan for ‘summer of chaos’ and martial law"

    https://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2016/07/hacked-messages-reveal-obama-admins.html

    U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch is coordinating with Democratic activists to so disrupt the upcoming Republican and Democratic National Conventions that martial law will be declared.

    That’s the stunning discovery revealed in a series of direct messages between three activists.

    On Friday, June 10, 2016, someone hacked into the Twitter account of #BlackLivesMatter (BLM) leader and former Baltimore mayoral candidateDeRay McKesson. McKesson later confirmed the hack to The Baltimore Sun.

    On June 11, 2016, a Twitterer who calls himself The Saint (@TheSaintNegro) tweeted a direct-message conversation on June 10 between KcKesson and another BLM leader Johnetta Elzie (Netta), in which the two discussed talking with Attorney General Loretta Lynch about plans to bring on martial law by causing chaos at the upcoming Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, and the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, PA, so as to keep Obama in office.
     

    Replies: @Jasper Been, @citizen

    We really need someone to look into whether or not this is true. I’ve seen it floating around a lot, and it is incredibly significant. Whether it is fake propaganda or evidence of real conversation, we need someone credible to look into this.

  342. @David In TN
    Has Hillary finished poll-testing her statement on the Dallas killings yet?

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    She cancelled a speech today where she was going to discuss the recent deaths of the two black guys killed by cops.

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @iSteveFan

    Atty General Lynch just gave a speech about the incident.
    She spent <30% of the time discussing the shooting and the rest of the time discussing the two martyrs from earlier this week, how BLM protesters shouldn't be discouraged by this and meaningless platitudes about "loving eachother" and "turning to each other instead of against each other"

    , @David In TN
    @iSteveFan

    In 1970, liberal democrats were forced to praise the misunderstood police in order to win elections. If Hillary does that, you'll know she's in big trouble.

  343. @War for Blair Mountain
    Is it true that Black Lives Matter activists have been meeting with Valerie Jarrete in the Whitehouse over the past year?

    Noam Chomksy in an interview accuses Trump suporters of using extra-constitutional violence to subvert democracy in the US.

    Replies: @Lurker

    Sounds to me like Noam needs to bend over and [redacted].

    • Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Lurker

    Noam is just trying to get the spotlight back after TehGenius Coates dethroned him as America's foremost public intellectual™.

  344. @eah
    Some time ago I posted a comment -- actually, a quote from another blog/web site, with a link -- to the effect that there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America -- Mr Sailer did not publish that comment (as is his prerogative) -- I put that into a comment thread here because I largely agreed with the sentiment -- and I feel no differently today -- in fact, even more so -- I wonder if others have the same or similar thoughts/feelings.

    Replies: @Paul Kersey, @Matthew Kelly, @Broski

    there are no longer political solutions to the problems and divisions that now plague America

    Indeed. Whites will not allow themselves to become a true underclass in a country they created, and are meaningfully waking up right now and beginning to resist. But the demographic train has already left the station. Thus, there will be conflict. We are in for a wild ride.

    In Europe, a likely scenario is the eventual violent expulsion of minorities. Why? Because Europe is white people’s indigenous land. As Europe’s aborigines, whites will have no qualms about taking their land back. Blood and soil etc.

    America less so.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Broski


    In Europe, a likely scenario is the eventual violent expulsion of minorities. Why? Because Europe is white people’s indigenous land. As Europe’s aborigines, whites will have no qualms about taking their land back. Blood and soil etc.
     
    I wish i could believe that. At this point, honestly, as much as it pains me, i'd be willing to give up on America for white folks, if there was a white Europe to retreat to. I'd like it all. But i'd sure like whites to survive *someplace*.

    But i sure don't see it. Rather than white guys rising up with a healthy blood and soil nationalism, the white guys there who seem to be eunuchs. (And don't even get started on the behavior of white "women".)
  345. @Matra
    Libertarian Vox Day has sort of sided with the killers saying the white police had this coming to them. Libertarians are the lowest form of white man.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Harry Baldwin

    I was surprised and put-off by Vox Day’s response to this.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Harry Baldwin

    Same. It was a combo of the insane BLM rhetoric, autist level of "heh, stupid plebs" smugness, and name dropping yet again his contacts while considering himself a guerilla warfare master that did it for me.

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Harry Baldwin

    I called Vox out on his womanly hysteria and he melted down before deleting my posts.

    So fragile. I guess the Scalzi comment triggered him.

  346. @AndrewR
    @Boomstick

    Yep. We see it with the two fatal shootings of black males this week. The federal Do"J" started "investigating" before the bodies were even cold.

    Replies: @res

    Yep. We see it with the two fatal shootings of black males this week. The federal Do”J” started “investigating” before the bodies were even cold.

    The DOJ is so incredibly conscientious. I wonder if they will recommend indictment. Would a reasonable prosecutor choose to do so?

  347. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Anonymous

    Lots of whites get shot by cops too. For example, 550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year. Per capita, that's an 90x difference.

    That has nothing to do with White-Americans being more dangerous. White-Americans are no more likely to kill a cop than Britons. So this huge disparity in police killings isn't about American police being in more danger than British police.

    People ask why the cops kill so many blacks.

    I ask: Why do the cops kill so many White-Americans?

    Are White-Americans 90x more likely to deserve being shot than a Briton?

    Replies: @CJ, @Daniel Williams

    550 White-Americans are killed by police ever year. In the UK, only 2 civilians are killed every year.

    Dunno. Maybe British cops not carrying guns contributes in some small way?

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @Daniel Williams

    British police now are heavily armed. Albeit mostly in roving squads and special call units.

    London police have firepower at quick call.

    Of course the EU and diversity are massive compensations and in no way mean that we should resent becoming a police state.

  348. @Harry Baldwin
    @Matra

    I was surprised and put-off by Vox Day's response to this.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Jack Hanson

    Same. It was a combo of the insane BLM rhetoric, autist level of “heh, stupid plebs” smugness, and name dropping yet again his contacts while considering himself a guerilla warfare master that did it for me.

  349. @iSteveFan
    @Jack D

    I wouldn't be too hard on the Russians for that. They needed something potent to instantly knock out those terrorists who all had bombs and might have detonated them if they had suspected something was afoot.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The idea to use knockout gas was not bad and better than having all 850 hostages blown up, but I do blame them for not telling the doctors what gas they had used and not having Narcan ready and waiting to revive the hostages. Many more lives could have been saved.

    Historically, Russian governments show a penchant (1) not to value human life highly, even the lives of their own citizens, (2) for secrecy and propagating lies/disinformation even to the point where it kills people and (3) toward execution of plans in a way that is often crude but effective, if lacking in finesse. The theater incident was of a piece with all of these aspects of their national character. Americans have their own character flaws that might have gotten even more people killed (or maybe even all of them) but this does not excuse Russian character flaws either.

  350. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

    Most of that stuff isn’t 100% effective. From what I read about that gorilla incident, tranquilizer darts take a while to sedate victims. And we all know how effective stun guns can be from the Alton Sterling incident.
    On the other hand blowing someone is a time-tested highly successful way of stopping people.

  351. @Svigor
    "Coordinated and effective," lol. "Hey, you set up over there, and I'll set up over here, and when the cops come along bringing up the rear, we start shooting."

    Yeah, real Green Beret stuff here.

    Sorry if you're dismayed by this reality, but, ambushing non-military targets in a non-warzone is about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker, @Diversity Heretic

    I’ve seen shooting and reloading cited as proof of military training in some terrorist incident in the last year.

  352. @Lurker
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Sounds to me like Noam needs to bend over and [redacted].

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat

    Noam is just trying to get the spotlight back after TehGenius Coates dethroned him as America’s foremost public intellectual™.

  353. … one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb after extensive negotiations …

    Did the robot scream “Allahu Akbar” before it blew itself up?

    • Replies: @Broski
    @Daniel Williams


    Did the robot scream “Allahu Akbar” before it blew itself up?
     
    Lol!
  354. So many comments and so many different thoughts on what is a tragedy for this country. I heard one of our local Reps. say that there is too much hateful rhetoric, no dog whistle there. I texted my three children in the Cleveland area and told them to avoid the city. I fear what happens at the RNC. I am off to church, clear my head pray for my country. I is the term “my country” hateful speech?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Buffalo Joe

    Erroneous speech.

  355. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @WhatEvvs
    @Boomstick

    "They’ll also use it as an excuse for gun control, as in Orlando."

    We do need rational gun control, although I'm at a loss as to what that means in this day and age.

    Mike Cernovich, who is a huge hero to the alt-right, is retweeting a picture of a black man who was taken in and released.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/751275318476845056

    Perhaps this particular man isn't a threat, but would you like to be around him? What do you think of the groveling caption? Doesn't it sound, in your language, rather cucked?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Mike Cernovich is not a hero to anyone with a brain, alt-right or otherwise. He is a fraud who receives $50,000 a month in alimony payments from his ex-wife while claiming to be a self-made man, plagiarizes, and hops onto whatever dumb flareup might gain him attention. He makes absurd, unsubstantiated claims and should be disregarded entirely.

  356. The good news for Trump is that there will be no further talk about Six Pointed Stars, which suddenly seems ridiculously trivial. A few days ago, Trump’s son-in-law wrote a piece in which he explained that his grandparent’s experience in the Holocaust had taught him the difference between REAL racism (the kind that involves the massacre of innocents) which demands attention and bogus “racism” (the kind that involves trumped up (no pun intended) controversies over the shape of a star in order to score political points), which is not worthy of any. Now Americans are learning the lesson he was trying to teach, the hard way.

    • Replies: @Grumpy
    @Jack D

    It doesn't seem to work that way. We have a mass killing one week, and the next week we're back to the politics of nonsense.

    We have already been through the Paris attacks, the San Bernardino attack, and the Orlando attack during this campaign cycle. That hasn't stopped of us from talking about Michelle Fields' arm or stars in tweets.

  357. @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.

    But why? Donald Trump has way more harsh criticism of Muslims, the Chinese, and Hispanics than he does of African Americans.

    Do African Americans really like open borders and sharia law that much?

    The vast majority of African Americans must have the mentality that insulting 1 Nonwhite group is a declaration of war on all Nonwhite groups. African Americans really ride or die rep hard for the coalition of the fringes.

    Because Blacks see Whites (and consequently White "power") as the greatest threat due to a combination of reasons. First, Whites are in fact very talented. Subordinating Whites therefore opens up more space for Blacks to be competitive and successful (not only AA). Second, in part due to this talent and in part due to (((media and film))) propaganda, Blacks fear organized self-conscious Whites on a physical level. They are also concerned they might be sent to Africa.

    It is also because Black males want access to White women, which the now enjoy. If Whites were to ever regain power, they would restrict Black make access to White women.

    Replies: @Luke Lea

    “There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump.”

    Can you link? #TrumpChangeNotChumpChange

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Luke Lea

    If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that..... Trump is evil.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jefferson

  358. I blame the president, media and D-Party for stoking this. It’s been a one-sided selective view at least since Traynon Martin. I don’t know if the two most recent incidents were justified or not, but they certainly could have been. And they could certainly be the result of police trying to survive their shift. What is certain is that the police will not be less prone to shoot following Dallas.

    So congrats CNNMSNBCFOXCBSACBNBCPBSETC and President Obama; you finally got that domestic terrorism you worked to hard to achieve. Who benefits? Well, all the failures have been wiped from the news, the economy, healthcare, foreign affairs, the new wars Obama has started, the fact that he was over meeting with NATO – what to make of arming terrorist in Syria, illegally overthrowing Gaddafi and Fast and Furious – the new bank failures and bailouts, the failed economy, the ‘immigration’ that is really an invasion force and who created it by overthrowing governments, the corruption being exposed at the highest levels of government, and so on.

    How will we have political conventions be this summer, or are they no longer necessary?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @YT Wurlitzer

    "So congrats CNNMSNBCFOXCBSACBNBCPBSETC and President Obama; you finally got that domestic terrorism you worked to hard to achieve."

    Why congratulations? Do you think the Obama administration and the mainstream media were happy when it turned out the domestic terrorist who murdered those police officers is a Black man? They were hoping the domestic terrorist would end up being a White Christian Republican who was wearing a "Make America Great Again" t-shirt.

    This is just more example of Blacks behaving badly and that is something the mainstream media hates to cover. They have to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover it.

    They were praying for this to be another Timothy McVeigh and all they got was Barack Hussein Obama's son.

  359. @iSteveFan
    @David In TN

    She cancelled a speech today where she was going to discuss the recent deaths of the two black guys killed by cops.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @David In TN

    Atty General Lynch just gave a speech about the incident.
    She spent <30% of the time discussing the shooting and the rest of the time discussing the two martyrs from earlier this week, how BLM protesters shouldn't be discouraged by this and meaningless platitudes about "loving eachother" and "turning to each other instead of against each other"

  360. @SPMoore8
    @Jack D

    The latest from the (black) Dallas police chief goes as follows:


    "We had an exchange of gunfire with the suspect. We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot," Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters at City Hall.

    "The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter," said Brown, who is black. "He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."

    In talking with police negotiators, the suspect said he was not affiliated with any group and acted alone, according to Brown.
     

    So it may have been just one black guy, but if so, I am expecting ex-serviceman. However, it is absolutely clear that it was a "hate crime" directed against white people because of #BLM. You are right about the urban canyon effect: I saw a tweet with video late last night and the shots were echoing 2-3 times per round. But for all that it did sound like single shot rapid fire.

    I can go with the one shooter argument.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Luke Lea

    “I can go with the one shooter argument.”

    What about the shooter on the sidewalk that gunned down policeman at point blank range? If only one gunman, did he leave garage and go into the street, then retreat back to the garage?

    • Agree: Spmoore8
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Luke Lea

    Yes, it was the same guy.

    , @Spmoore8
    @Luke Lea

    That's exactly what it looks like, right now.

  361. I blame the president, media and D-Party for stoking this. It’s been a one-sided selective view at least since Traynon Martin. I don’t know if the two most recent incidents were justified or not, but they certainly could have been. And they could certainly be the result of police trying to survive their shift. What is certain is that the police will not be less prone to shoot following Dallas.

    So congrats CNNMSNBCFOXCBSACBNBCPBSETC and President Obama; you finally got that domestic terrorism you worked to hard to achieve. Who benefits? Well, all the failures have been wiped from the news, the economy, healthcare, foreign affairs, the new wars Obama has started, the fact that he was over meeting with NATO – what to make of arming terrorist in Syria, illegally overthrowing Gaddafi and Fast and Furious – the new bank failures and bailouts, the failed economy, the ‘immigration’ that is really an invasion force and who created it by overthrowing governments, the corruption being exposed at the highest levels of government, and so on.

    How will we have political conventions be this summer, or are they no longer necessary?

    (I previously posted as NBCCBSPBS Lie. Identify crisis. I don’t mean to multiply-identity post.)

  362. @Luke Lea
    @SPMoore8

    "I can go with the one shooter argument."

    What about the shooter on the sidewalk that gunned down policeman at point blank range? If only one gunman, did he leave garage and go into the street, then retreat back to the garage?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Spmoore8

    Yes, it was the same guy.

  363. Well, just to be crude enough to bring up the electoral consequences of this, I think they’re pretty straightforward.

    Hillary is the BLM candidate, and will not be able to get out of corner she’s painted herself into. Any way one looks at it, Hillary is four more years of Obama on this issue, and Obama is in effect ginning up a race war. This incident almost certainly would not have happened had Obama — and of course the media and all the varied and sundry progressives — not have done everything in his power to blow up every case of white cop on black killing into a national tragedy of the grandest proportions. Obama can’t escape what he’s done, and Hillary can’t pretend that she hasn’t been, and won’t be, doing the same thing.

    So who are the voters Hillary will lose?

    Well, not the blacks, for sure. But she will lose any number of whites who might otherwise have plunked down for her. In particular, she will lose a good number of the upper middle class well educated whites who live in the city or in the suburbs and depend in ways they don’t like to speak of on the peace kept by the police, and by a black population who wreak their violence mainly on each other. These whites may fancy themselves progressives, but a race war is not what they had in mind.

    • Agree: Luke Lea
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @candid_observer

    A race war is what we will get, even Richard Fernandez from Belmont Club (who banned me when I suggested he wasn't so peachy keen on seeing his beloved Philippines filled with say Africans, and could not accept that Blacks commit crimes far higher than Whites) has written so in mealy-mouthed words.

    Obama gets most of the blame. Like nearly all Third World Aristocrats (his bio father and adopted father were both Aristocrats from crummy failed Third World places) he HATES HATES HATES the White middle/working class. In this he is allied with the Upper White classes, SWJ, SWPL, and most unmarried White women and recently married White women.

    There is just zero possibility that the Black criminal underclass like Micah Xavier Johnson will refrain from various intifada like random attacks on Whites, see also Ismayyl Brinsley in NYC (who murdered two cops in ambush, both cops non-White). We will see more and more of that. Our future is Israeli. Heck the shooter is famous, killed a bunch of White cops, you better believe that in the ghetto the shooter is a hero, widely celebrated.

    I think this helps Hillary, as her core White supporters, the White Upper Class and single White women who aspire to the Upper Class were not targeted and share the hatred the underclass Blacks do for working/middle class Whites. But long term our future is Israeli:

    A. Highly urban and concentrated protected "bubble" of Upper Class Whites who sentimentalize those who kill their near-enemies, middle/working class Whites.
    B. Hard Right Nationalist lower/middle class Whites who are armed and fear attack daily all the time.
    C. Withdrawal from all public spaces as in Israel without armed militias present just as in Israel.
    D. Constant drip-drip-drip anti-White intifada violence directed at any vulnerable segment: teen girls, the elderly, children, etc.
    E. Near universal arming by the White working/middle class.
    F. A Bibi style government, nationalist but corrupt, with non-Whites living in defacto segregated areas and with collective punishment.

    I don't see that happening today. Nor in ten years. But in twenty to thirty? Sure. Heck Israel was founded by a bunch of leftwing universalist utopian socialists, who slowly came round over fifty years to reality -- and that was without rednecks, etc.

    The whole current system is collapsing. It won't end even next week. But it is ending. The White Civil War is just unsustainable.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  364. @Luke Lea
    @SPMoore8

    "I can go with the one shooter argument."

    What about the shooter on the sidewalk that gunned down policeman at point blank range? If only one gunman, did he leave garage and go into the street, then retreat back to the garage?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Spmoore8

    That’s exactly what it looks like, right now.

  365. @Paul Rise
    @candid_observer

    There's an odious, Texas-based group called Peaceful Streets that generally despises police. Neo-Nazis hate police as well. The planning of it suggests ISIS. Very bizarre, very awful crime. This is why there is a death penalty, although something tells me these guys won't be taken into custody.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @schmenz

    “The planning of it suggests ISIS”

    I would say the planning of this suggests SOROS.

  366. Chiraq Tribune headline already has our Homegrown Strugglers version of Muslims bracing for that much-feared, seldom-seen ‘backlash’:

    “Chicago activists condemn Dallas shootings of police, fear repercussions”

    If media were quality, we’d have by now a Deep Look muckraker about how, for years, there’s been persistent ‘lackabackalash’ in these cases. But today, hate-crime standards are so low (“My cousin’s friend’s roommate’s mother’s abortionist thought he saw someone giving him jumbo stinkeye from a corner just half a mile away; he’s Muslim, so this MUST BE red-letter Islamabamaphobiama!”) our contemporary information industry instead turns our attention to crucial issue of Stars of David teased from ancient Native American petroglyphs.

  367. Wait a minute, was it somebody here (or maybe Reddit) who noted after the Amarillo shooting that Eagles of Death Metal have these lyrics:

    And we’re headed to San Bernardino
    And then when we hit Texas
    We’ll stop in Amarillo for a bite to eat
    We’ll stop on over in Dallas

    http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eaglesofdeathmetal/sanberdoosundburn.html

    What the heck. Makes me think ISIS.

  368. @Luke Lea
    @Anonymous

    "There are new polls saying that only 1 percent of African Americans plan to vote for Donald Trump."

    Can you link? #TrumpChangeNotChumpChange

    Replies: @Jack D

    If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that….. Trump is evil.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Jack D

    99% black support (for HRC) is merely proof that they are the more nuanced and thoughtful voters. 99% white support (for Trump) is proof of their knuckle-dragging stupidity.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    , @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that….. Trump is evil."

    Even when Adolf Hitler was in power he never had 99 percent support from the German people.

    African Americans must really be flattered when Hildabeast starts speaking like a Black woman from Georgia at African American rallies. They don't see it as racist cultural appropriation when she does it. She gets a pass because Hildabeast is an Honorary Black Sista, just like Elizabeth Warren is an Honorary Amerindian.

  369. So far, I’ve not found one main stream media source that is connecting Obama’s pre-Dallas shooting speech that was hostile towards cops with the murder of those police officers. Yet when anti-Trump protesters attack Trump supporters in California, it’s somehow Trump’s fault…something he said set them off.

    Funny how that works.

  370. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    …a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans…

    The VA hospital here in Sioux Falls, has been magnificent for my father. He’d be dead more than once, if it weren’t for their great (and very costly…yet still free-to-him) work. I understand there are some very real and very serious problems with the VA, but let’s not jump on the bandwagon of just dismissing the agency as a whole. There are some great people who work for the VA, too.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    My wife's uncle got some very good care from the VA hospital in Chicago. For a decade, they used him, a STEM Ph.D., as a volunteer lab rat with new technologies they wanted to try out and then would incorporate some of his suggestions into their procedures.

  371. I’m surprised this wasn’t reported as “White Cops in Dallas Use Robotic Bomb To Kill Black Man”

  372. Not meaning to be insensitive, but I’m curious as to what motivates a company to advertise their products right before an online news site’s videos of various horrific events.

    The video of the policeman being killed by a gunman is prefaced by a 14 second advertisement for Garmin Vivo Fitness on one site, on another Sealey Posturepedic announce their mid-winter stocktake sale.

    It’s fairly common, and has happened fairly recently, where a sponsor abandons a football team over an alleged domestic violence incident of a player, or a TV show transgressed with a “sexist” remark. They announce the association is not good for their brand.

    Yet watching someone get gunned down in cold blood is apparently pretty good for selling fitness watches or a good night’s sleep.

    Seems kinda perverse and distasteful to me. What’s with that?

  373. The fact that Alton Sterling was a convicted sex offender doesn’t seem to bother the white virtue signalers, many of whom are young white women. I thought they would back off tweeting and posting love and support and calling him by his first name like an old friend, but they seem just as smitten with him now as when they first saw his worthless, twitching corpse and fell in love.

  374. @Olorin
    @AndrewR

    Nor do the billionaires who installed them in their positions.

    What I want to know--after the assassin(s) are identified--is whose money supported them at every stage.

    Somehow the M$M are too busy applying bleedy leady clickbait tactics to care about that hard diggy/thinky stuff. Just as "refugees" magically appear on the shores of sovereign European nations or the US. Nobody sent them, nobody paid their way, nobody set it all up. It just happens. Like rain.

    In my view, "philanthropic" foundations and their bought-and-paid-for thinktanks are a big part of the problem-matrix we face at present. The efforts to harden federal control over everything aren't arising from the vacuum of space, but from monied interests with carefully established mechanisms and institutions of operation. Thus "federal control" isn't about federal government in general but this elite caste's control in particular.

    Replies: @guest

    That “problem-matrix” you reference, and our enemy the elite caste, is not restricted to the federal government, no. The real ruling power in this country has been called the Cathedral, and it includes foundations and thinktanks. They are lumped together with “NGOs” generally. Along with universities and the civil service they tell us what to think, and thereby rule us. The MSM and Big Business reside down the power scale, and elected officials even further down. They are basically reality tv at this point.

  375. Boy was I wrong!!! Black cop killer Micah X Johnson did it. Who worked with him? Black I suppose.

  376. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

    I’m not an expert here, but I’m pretty sure the robot is property of the Bomb Squad (or whatever the Dallas PD bomb squad is called.)

    IT’s designed and it exists to safely handle bombs. One way is a controlled detonation. (Keep people out of a certain radius, and the robot explosion sets off the main explosion)

    There were rumors swirling earlier that he died from a combination of the bomb-squad bomb and his bomb.

    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    @Discordiax


    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.
     
    Haven't you realized yet that if you kill a cop, even accidentally, they will execute you? Remember the ex-cop in CA who supposedly went on the cop-shooting rampage? The cops shot a number of innocent people before they tracked him to a vacation home that they set on fire and burned him to death in. How about the FBI and BATF pigs who tortured and murdered the 80 or so men, women and children, some infants) at the Branch Davidian home n Waco Texas. mass murder - do you think the FBI and BATF pigs cared? Judge, jury, and executioners. That's what cops do and they have a long history of doing it and ALWAYS getting away with it.

    It doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to figure out that if you ever want justice from a corrupt and criminal government that sometimes you have to make your own. We have plenty of movies with similar themes.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    , @Jack D
    @Discordiax

    I would bet you that those rumors were as wrong as most of the other rumors that went around. He died because of the bomb squad bomb - he probably didn't have any of his own at all, at least not on him. Using the bomb squad robot to blow up criminal suspects (even dangerous ones) to smithereens is a new and innovative use for them - I think this is literally the 1st time it has been done and I'm not sure that it is really a good idea, even in an extreme situation. To me is sounds like something from a dystopian sci-fi novel. What happened to Asimov's first law of robotics? In reality, from the moment the 1st hominid picked up a rock, humans have eyed every new invention for its potential as a weapon and there's no reason to think that robots would be exempt.

    Replies: @Lugash, @Mr. Blank

  377. @I, Libertine
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    It's easy to forget how atypical is Barry of "African Americans." Half-white biologically; not a descendant of slavery; raised by whites (and, for three years or so during his early childhood, by an Asian in Asia). And if I'm not too far off base here, he never set foot in a black neighborhood, or even on any square foot of the continental United States (other than international airports, maybe) until well into adulthood.


    Don't blame him for being ignorant of American race relations. The American voter is to blame for assuming otherwise.

    Replies: @Hunsdon, @Perplexed

    The presidency of Barack Obama must mightily gall Jesse Jackson; I always figured he’d be the first black POTUS, back in the day.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Hunsdon

    Nah. Jessie Jackson couldn't get elected because he wasn't like Obama, of whom Joe Biden famously said,


    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

     

    In other words, he couldn't fool us the way Obama did.

    Besides, everybody knows Bill Clinton was the first black president.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Hunsdon

    From 2008


    "In a vulgar tirade caught on tape by Fox News, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said he wanted to “cut his [Barack Obama’s] nuts out” and he accused the fellow Chicagoan of “talking down to black folks” by giving moral lectures to African-Americans..."
     
    LOL--remember when Obama used to give moral lectures to African-Americans?
  378. @Harry Baldwin
    @Matra

    I was surprised and put-off by Vox Day's response to this.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Jack Hanson

    I called Vox out on his womanly hysteria and he melted down before deleting my posts.

    So fragile. I guess the Scalzi comment triggered him.

  379. iSteveFan says:
    @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "On a side note I wonder if this could give Hillary and the dems a chance to make a clean break with BLM. They have to realize that BLM is hurting them with crucial white voters in battleground states. So this might give Hillary a chance to denounce them and regain credibility with what’s left of the core, white democrat voter. Sort of like the Sister Soulja incident during Bill’s 1992 campaign."

    Do you think Hildabeast gives a phuck about White voters, when she is expected to win an even bigger share of the Hispanic and African American vote than Barack Hussein Obama did.

    Donald Trump is expected to get even less Hispanic, Asian, Homosexual, Muslim, and African American votes than Mitt Romney did.

    Barack Hussein Obama proved that a Democrat can win a presidential election without having to win the majority of the White vote. Hussein won only 39 percent of the White vote in 2012.

    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.

    In the next decade a Democrat will be able to win the presidency even if she or he only wins 25 to 30 percent of the White vote.

    And the decade after that 20 to 25 percent of the White vote will be enough to get a Democrat elected president.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @AnotherDad

    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.

    If Hillary gets 35% of the white vote in each state (not the national average), she loses in a landslide blowout.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    If she gets 35% in each state then 35% IS the national average. However she could win by getting say 0% of the white vote in Alabama and 100% in Pennsylvania. The swing states are key.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  380. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Anon

    When I saw the video my sympathies were all with the young couple and child brutalized by this homicidally out of control cop. Then I listened to NPR.

    First, they gave extended coverage to the idiot in the White House and his usual low-keyed race-baiting, inserting himself unnecessarily into an already tense situation and making it worse. Then NPR chose to interview some rabble rousing Negro "minister" whose chief claim to fame seems to be having done time for a cop shooting before he "found Jesus". This clown claimed to have personally known the victim but it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was doing an ex tempore sort-of-eulogy just to get air time and his fifteen minutes of fame. (I hope some one fact checks this and nails NPR to the wall on it.)

    The bottom line is that lefties were tripping over themselves to turn an already horrific situation as much worse as they could make it. The payoff is Dallas and what will follow.

    Replies: @woodNfish

    So because the SJWs at NPR decided to use a man murdered by a cop for their own political benefit, you no longer have sympathy for that family? In what way did they have any control over how the atrocity against them would be used by others for political gain?

    Cops murder 2X the number of nonviolent suspects every year than violent suspects, most of the nonviolent suspects are unarmed. The fact is, this reaction toward the cops continuously getting away with murder, assault, rape, theft, extortion and other violent and non-violent crimes against the citizenry was bound to happen. Cops are almost never prosecuted. The same with corrupt lawyers, prosecutors and judges (which is a majority of them). The only surprise is that is was in a city where no recent cop murder has occurred.

  381. @Jack D
    @Federalist

    The Russians did this once when there was a theater full of people being held hostage by Chechen terrorists. They pumped the place full of fentanyl gas - more or less the same stuff that killed Prince. It knocked the terrorists out and "only" killed 1/5 of the people in the theater and that number was increased by the fact that the Russian authorities (in typical Russian fashion) refused to tell the emergency doctors what gas they had used (military secret) and did not have any antidotes ready.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jack Hanson, @Federalist

    Totally different.

    The Russians were dealing with terrorists in an enclosed building. In Dallas, the police were dealing with a guy in a semi-open parking garage (and the police were in the garage, too). You can’t just pump in gas. Also, in a long drawn out hostage situation, the Russians had time to plan and arrange for the resources necessary to pump the building full of gas. In Dallas, they were more or less in a paused firefight with both sides behind cover.

    In Russia, there were hostages to consider. In Dallas, there were not.

    In Russia, the terrorists were holed up in a building. Essentially, the terrorists were not coming out and the only other option for the Russians was a head on assault of the building with almost certain mass casualties to the police/military forces and the hostages. Until and unless the Russians went in though, the terrorists were inside and the Russians were outside. In Dallas, the murderer was behind cover, but would shoot any police officer who exposed himself. If not for the bomb, they would have just had to shoot it out and possibly got even more cops killed. Bullets only go straight. That’s why in combat things like hand grenades are used. If you can’t shoot over/through/behind some kind of barrier, you can just lob a grenade over the top without exposing yourself to enemy fire.

    In Dallas, they had a robot that could carry over a small bomb without exposing any humans to fire. Assuming you can detonate it remotely, you really only need something like a remote controlled car to carry the bomb. With a bomb, you just need to get close. You are looking for a robot that can go and spray someone in the face with some kind of sleeping gas, that is certainly not readily available. It’s the same with all of these ideas of the robot shooting tranquilizer darts or throwing nets over people, etc. This robot isn’t R2D2 from Star Wars. It’s not sophisticated enough to do all of that. But it can roll up near someone and blow up.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Federalist

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY

    Replies: @Federalist, @Jim Don Bob

  382. Why does the headline again refer to something that is nowhere in the body of the article? Where is the proof of this statement?

  383. @Bardon Kaldian
    Many commenters underestimate blacks. For a little sniping, you don´t have to have IQ 150.

    Replies: @Jack D, @woodNfish

    I’m surprised it took anyone this long to start doing it. I am surprised whites don’t do it because cops murder many more whites than blacks every year, the LLSM just won’t cover it.

  384. Occam wins again. Shooter identified as Micah X. Johnson, black ex-US military.

    Regarding the “innovative” use of the bomb squad robot to blow up the guy, he has himself partly to blame by claiming to have IEDs. Chances are this was suicide by cop anyway and he had no intention of being taken alive.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Jack D


    Shooter identified as Micah X. Johnson, black ex-US military.
     
    Initial stories report he was an Army reservist. If true then he was not a combat arms soldier. He would have gone through basic training like all support troops, but it would not have been like the training received by the infantry and other combat arms soldiers. Yes, I know technically basic training is the same for all soldiers, but there is a reason why the infantry and other combat arms soldiers train separately from the support troops even though the curriculum is suppose to be the same.

    All I am saying is that if he indeed was a support troop, he would have learned how to qualify with an M4 (M16) rifle, but I wouldn't exactly call this guy a trained soldier.
  385. @iSteveFan
    @Jefferson


    America is even less White in 2016 than it was in 2012. Hildabeast can win the presidency even if she only gets 30 to 35 percent of the White vote.
     
    If Hillary gets 35% of the white vote in each state (not the national average), she loses in a landslide blowout.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If she gets 35% in each state then 35% IS the national average. However she could win by getting say 0% of the white vote in Alabama and 100% in Pennsylvania. The swing states are key.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Jack D

    Maybe my description was confusing, but that is what I meant. If she gets 35% of the white vote in battleground states like OH, PA, VA and NC, she loses big time. If she gets 35% of the white vote in whitopias like ME, VT, NH, OR, and WA, she loses.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

  386. @Hunsdon
    @I, Libertine

    The presidency of Barack Obama must mightily gall Jesse Jackson; I always figured he'd be the first black POTUS, back in the day.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Harry Baldwin

    Nah. Jessie Jackson couldn’t get elected because he wasn’t like Obama, of whom Joe Biden famously said,

    “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

    In other words, he couldn’t fool us the way Obama did.

    Besides, everybody knows Bill Clinton was the first black president.

  387. @Discordiax
    @Jack D

    I'm not an expert here, but I'm pretty sure the robot is property of the Bomb Squad (or whatever the Dallas PD bomb squad is called.)

    IT's designed and it exists to safely handle bombs. One way is a controlled detonation. (Keep people out of a certain radius, and the robot explosion sets off the main explosion)

    There were rumors swirling earlier that he died from a combination of the bomb-squad bomb and his bomb.

    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.

    Replies: @woodNfish, @Jack D

    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.

    Haven’t you realized yet that if you kill a cop, even accidentally, they will execute you? Remember the ex-cop in CA who supposedly went on the cop-shooting rampage? The cops shot a number of innocent people before they tracked him to a vacation home that they set on fire and burned him to death in. How about the FBI and BATF pigs who tortured and murdered the 80 or so men, women and children, some infants) at the Branch Davidian home n Waco Texas. mass murder – do you think the FBI and BATF pigs cared? Judge, jury, and executioners. That’s what cops do and they have a long history of doing it and ALWAYS getting away with it.

    It doesn’t take a stretch of the imagination to figure out that if you ever want justice from a corrupt and criminal government that sometimes you have to make your own. We have plenty of movies with similar themes.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @woodNfish


    It doesn’t take a stretch of the imagination to figure out that if you ever want justice from a corrupt and criminal government that sometimes you have to make your own. We have plenty of movies with similar themes.
     
    The problem with your position is that this guy made it a racial issue saying he wanted to kill whites and white officers. So any man-against-the-government meme went out the window.
  388. iSteveFan says:
    @Jack D
    Occam wins again. Shooter identified as Micah X. Johnson, black ex-US military.

    Regarding the "innovative" use of the bomb squad robot to blow up the guy, he has himself partly to blame by claiming to have IEDs. Chances are this was suicide by cop anyway and he had no intention of being taken alive.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    Shooter identified as Micah X. Johnson, black ex-US military.

    Initial stories report he was an Army reservist. If true then he was not a combat arms soldier. He would have gone through basic training like all support troops, but it would not have been like the training received by the infantry and other combat arms soldiers. Yes, I know technically basic training is the same for all soldiers, but there is a reason why the infantry and other combat arms soldiers train separately from the support troops even though the curriculum is suppose to be the same.

    All I am saying is that if he indeed was a support troop, he would have learned how to qualify with an M4 (M16) rifle, but I wouldn’t exactly call this guy a trained soldier.

  389. @Svigor
    "Coordinated and effective," lol. "Hey, you set up over there, and I'll set up over here, and when the cops come along bringing up the rear, we start shooting."

    Yeah, real Green Beret stuff here.

    Sorry if you're dismayed by this reality, but, ambushing non-military targets in a non-warzone is about as hard as shooting fish in a barrel.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lurker, @Diversity Heretic

    I’m not sure what the term “triangulate” means in this context. Perhaps “crossfire” was what was meant. If an ambush is set up correctly a target seeking cover from one shooter exposes himself to the fire from another. A good tactic if you can pull it off, but it usually requires some scouting to select the firing points.

    One other point while I’m at it. I sure don’t mean to be critical of the Dallas PD but some of the photos I saw showed officers closely bunched up. That’s a natural tendency in a firefight but in a really serious engagement, it means that one grenade can kill or injure 5-7 police and there’s no reason to think that the police won’t be facing grenades pretty soon. The Dallas PD needs some intensive gunfight training..

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Dallas PD during the firefight looked like they were sorely lacking in helmets, body armor, and long guns. I presume they were deployed unprepared to present a friendlier look to BLM protestors? You wouldn't want a Militarized Police Force, now would you?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Grumpy, @Andrew

  390. @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    The attack last night was terrorism in a classic sense (collective punishment to inspire terror in the target population, here, white cops) and it was also a "hate crime" (as much as I dislike the word) because it was directed towards killing white cops.

    Look, the one doesn't justify the other. Many people feel that too many civilians are being shot by police officers. That doesn't justify this shooting. By the same token, condemning this terror attack doesn't justify cops shooting civilians, either.

    I doubt the media will call it what it is. They'll just ride "lone gunman" real hard and try to ban AR-15's, again. However, I would imagine that just about anyone in this country who doesn't have one yet will be lining up to get one after last night.

    Replies: @rod1963

    It’s really funny how the BLM crowd and white liberals are dead silent when blacks butcher blacks as in Chicago or Sac town.

    It’s not really about dead black bodies. It’s about power and shaking down cities for $$$.

    The reason why Blacks are shot so often is simple. Blacks are disproportionately responsible for most crime in this country and a majority of murders as well.

    To them crime is a legit career option.

    They get nailed and then they bitch and riot.

    Alton Sterling was a armed thug who sold black market items on the street who resisted arrest and tried to reach for his gun and died. He was also a giant of a man at 6’4″ and 300 lbs. Two cops would be taxed out to handle a resisting suspect his size. I don’t blame the cops for ventilating the monster when he reached for his gun.

    The other clown was a known gang member, who had been already pulled over by cops some 30 times(so he knew the drill). Who just happen to fit the profile of a black man who just robbed a convenience store a few days earlier. He too made a mistake after telling cops he had a gun, he reached for his waist. Had he simply asked for clarification from the officer while keeping his hands on the steering wheel he’d still be alive. He didn’t.

  391. iSteveFan says:
    @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    If she gets 35% in each state then 35% IS the national average. However she could win by getting say 0% of the white vote in Alabama and 100% in Pennsylvania. The swing states are key.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    Maybe my description was confusing, but that is what I meant. If she gets 35% of the white vote in battleground states like OH, PA, VA and NC, she loses big time. If she gets 35% of the white vote in whitopias like ME, VT, NH, OR, and WA, she loses.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @iSteveFan

    Actually WA isn't a whitopia. It ranks #26 in % of non-Hispanic whites. It is 30% minority compared to 6% in the most white state of Maine.

  392. @Jack D
    @Psmith

    No, you are not.

    As we have seen with Hillary, we have two justice systems in America. One for our betters and one for the rest of us. If you have killed a cop (let alone 5), then chances are you are not going to stand trial - your "trial" and execution will take place immediately. If he had shot the same number of civilians then the chances that they would have taken him alive would have been much greater. They had him surrounded - there was no pressing need to kill him immediately.

    In this respect, BLM has a point (although cops shoot many more whites than blacks). The police attitude has become, "We're not taking any chances with our lives. When in doubt (whether you are black or white), we're going to kill you." This has become a focus among blacks because (due to their higher rate of offending) blacks are in contact with the police a lot more often (the guy in Minnesota had been stopped by the cops 31 times before - 32 was his unlucky #), but really this a police problem, not a black problem. Policing, BTW, is not a particularly dangerous profession compared to some others (e.g. taxi driver), but we don't expect and permit taxi drivers to kill their passengers if they have any suspicions that the passengers are armed. The police are our fellow citizens and must be held to the same standard as any other citizen - no better and no worse. If they become an occupying army with shoot to kill orders and robot bombs, that's one more nail in the coffin of our former republic.

    Texas is a death penalty state and it would have been right and proper to capture this man alive, question him as to his motives and co-conspirators (if any), give him a fair and speedy trial and then execute him if he was found guilty, as he almost surely would have been. That's the American way.

    Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can't it carry a can of sleeping gas?

    Replies: @Federalist, @Kylie

    “Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?”

    Because the suspect told cops there were bombs hidden all over the city. I’m guessing that even a fast-acting tranquilizing gas would give the suspect enough time to detonate bombs once he realized it had been used and before it took effect.

    This wasn’t a situation in which nothing had happened but something might happen. Shots had already been fired, killing people. The death toll could have been much higher if there were hidden bombs the suspect could detonate. You might have been willing to risk the lives of innocent people but thankfully, the Dallas PD was not.

    From the Daily Mail: “Before the dead suspect was taken out with a police bomb, he also warned that there were other IEDs hidden around the city.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kylie

    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.

    Going back to "not a Batman movie", the chances that Micah had the ability to remotely control a network of bombs scattered throughout the city were nil and if he did, he could have also been holding a deadman switch that would set them off as soon as he let go or have them set off by a blast detector, etc. but in real life terrorists are not evil geniuses equipped with unlimited money and technology.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Unidentified Chemical Substance

  393. @Buffalo Joe
    So many comments and so many different thoughts on what is a tragedy for this country. I heard one of our local Reps. say that there is too much hateful rhetoric, no dog whistle there. I texted my three children in the Cleveland area and told them to avoid the city. I fear what happens at the RNC. I am off to church, clear my head pray for my country. I is the term "my country" hateful speech?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Erroneous speech.

  394. Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @iSteveFan


    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?
     
    That reads like a setup for a joke...

    Because it could be?

    Because rioters like Slurpees?

    Because they ran out of Skittles and Snapple?

    To get to the other side?

    Replies: @Marcus

    , @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    Why did the scorpion sting the frog in the parable? It was just his nature.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Dirk Dagger
    @iSteveFan

    These is the undocumented reparations, no?

  395. @Hunsdon
    @I, Libertine

    The presidency of Barack Obama must mightily gall Jesse Jackson; I always figured he'd be the first black POTUS, back in the day.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Harry Baldwin

    From 2008

    “In a vulgar tirade caught on tape by Fox News, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said he wanted to “cut his [Barack Obama’s] nuts out” and he accused the fellow Chicagoan of “talking down to black folks” by giving moral lectures to African-Americans…”

    LOL–remember when Obama used to give moral lectures to African-Americans?

  396. @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    A lot of the early thinking was distorted by the fact that the police and press were reporting multiple shooter, multiple arrests, etc. pointing to a conspiracy (not that blacks are incapable of conspiracies either - there are some black drug gangs of considerable size). A lone shooter requires much less "discipline and planning". It would not be surprising if the shooter turns out to have some military or other weapons training - there are plenty of blacks in the US military. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper's nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you're all set.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @peterike

    That’s what I was thinking. There were reports that it was a planned attack involving several conspirators, one of whom was alleged to have committed suicide. It didn’t sound typical of something carried out by blacks.

  397. @Jack D
    @Luke Lea

    If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that..... Trump is evil.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jefferson

    99% black support (for HRC) is merely proof that they are the more nuanced and thoughtful voters. 99% white support (for Trump) is proof of their knuckle-dragging stupidity.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Lurker

    Regarding the 99% black support consider this. There are over 40 million blacks in America. If they were their own nation they'd be larger than Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and the Netherlands combined. Yet they vote well over 90% for one party. Is there any other democracy with such a large populace with such monolithic voting habits? The only time I've seen populations that large voting for one party is when communism ruled Eastern Europe or when Saddam conducted his final election.

  398. @Harry Baldwin
    @Unladen Swallow

    the media may have been liberal, but they weren’t actively trying to spin the news

    They were and Spiro Agnew pointed it out. However, in the absence of alternative media--talk radio, the web--you had to be pretty politically involved to be aware of the extent of the problem. In the 1980s I subscribed to Reed Irvine's "Accuracy in Media" newsletter, which featured obvious examples of media bias.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    I wasn’t around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn’t a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90’s was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I’m guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn’t think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating “stories” with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Unladen Swallow

    I agree. There was a real generational change. Maybe at the NYTimes, reporters were always from the more educated (and therefore liberal) classes, but at the blue collar papers, being a newspaperman used to be just another blue collar profession and the reporters were grizzled old cigar chomping professionals with no political agenda - they were just tradesmen doing their trade and their trade involved hanging around police stations and typing up news stories. Privately they might vote Democrat (or even Communist back in the day) but this had nothing to do with their job anymore than politics has anything to do with the job of a mechanic. Their overall attitude was a cynicism and somewhat bemused detachment about human nature because they had seen the dark side of it and this was an equal opportunity cynicism - all politicians were crooks, blacks were perpetrators as well as victims.

    But following Watergate, reporting came to be seen as a "calling" for young liberals and a journalism degree (or at least an English degree) became a prerequisite for a newspaper job - a reporter could "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable." And afflicted mean minority and Democrat and comfortable mean Republican. And "comforting the afflicted" meant that you had to be on their side and could no longer regard them with anything except reverence as holy victims of whitey.

    , @Anonymous
    @Unladen Swallow

    That's a very interesting notation, but how can we determine a couple of years (1989-1990) where it all began?

    It must have been more gradual.

    Maybe what changed was not all the media were owned by the very same group of people sharing the very same goals.

    University shifted from real liberalism to progressive-branded totalitarian ideology in the last 60's. Perhaps it took till the early 90s for the change in journalism to be complete.
    In non-democracy, the whole media is a single voice, you don't have different voices in the concert of information any longer.

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Unladen Swallow

    I agree. I get the impression the liberal-progressive types of the pre-'68er, pre-Boomer generation were biased but thought of themselves as professionals with a responsibility to convey news and analysis as objectively as possible. That was the expected norm, I mean. The ones who came after openly celebrate "spin" - ie lying - and are rewarded for their ability to deliberately misunderstand and twist the words and actions of whoever finds themselves out of favour.

    People got used to this malpractice by the media and assumed it was "the new normal". Ironically, lots of current and ex-journalists made a nice living consulting their clients on how to make peace with the media tyrants and shakedown artists. They got money and status for extorting people and then for advising them how to avoid future shakedowns by their colleges. Nice. That's why it's so much fun to see these spinmeisters run up against Putin or Trump.

    , @David In TN
    @Unladen Swallow

    I was around for the 1968 election and media types were as biased as today. There was even a book about it, "The News Twisters," by Edith Efron. You might want to hunt down a copy.

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

  399. iSteveFan says:
    @Lurker
    @Jack D

    99% black support (for HRC) is merely proof that they are the more nuanced and thoughtful voters. 99% white support (for Trump) is proof of their knuckle-dragging stupidity.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    Regarding the 99% black support consider this. There are over 40 million blacks in America. If they were their own nation they’d be larger than Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and the Netherlands combined. Yet they vote well over 90% for one party. Is there any other democracy with such a large populace with such monolithic voting habits? The only time I’ve seen populations that large voting for one party is when communism ruled Eastern Europe or when Saddam conducted his final election.

  400. @Svigor
    NPR interviewed a Dallas area detective and author about an hour ago, and his advice on how to handle police contact when you're armed was almost exactly what I advised in the other thread. One addition was that as soon as he comes to a stop, he turns off his engine and turns on his dome light. I'd add, turn off your radio and extinguish any cigarettes.

    1. Keep your hands on the wheel until instructed to do otherwise.
    2. Keep your wallet and your paperwork as far from your firearm as possible.
    3. When the cop asks for your license, hand over your CCW permit, then say something like "officer, that's my CCW permit, and I have a gun on my [location]. How would you like to proceed?"
    4. Take it one step at a time from there, stay calm, keep it slow and steady, follow the cop's instructions, and make an effort to keep your hands visible. Don't be afraid to ask for clarification if you need it.

    Do these things, and don't be an ass, and you have a greatly improved chance of surviving police contact, even if the cop is a nervous, trigger-happy wreck, like the cop in Minnesota.

    Just going by his baby mama's story, the dead man handled the situation very poorly. It's really not hard to know how to handle police stops, armed or not, if you just give a bit of thought to the cop's POV.

    Replies: @donut, @27 year old

    “It’s really not hard to know how to handle police stops, armed or not, if you just give a bit of thought to the cop’s POV.”

    That’s racist .

  401. @Kylie
    @Jack D

    "Now once again in Dallas we have a situation where the assassin is dead and this will lead to endless conspiracy theories.

    If a robot can carry a bomb, then why can’t it carry a can of sleeping gas?"

    Because the suspect told cops there were bombs hidden all over the city. I'm guessing that even a fast-acting tranquilizing gas would give the suspect enough time to detonate bombs once he realized it had been used and before it took effect.

    This wasn't a situation in which nothing had happened but something might happen. Shots had already been fired, killing people. The death toll could have been much higher if there were hidden bombs the suspect could detonate. You might have been willing to risk the lives of innocent people but thankfully, the Dallas PD was not.


    From the Daily Mail: "Before the dead suspect was taken out with a police bomb, he also warned that there were other IEDs hidden around the city."

    Replies: @Jack D

    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.

    Going back to “not a Batman movie”, the chances that Micah had the ability to remotely control a network of bombs scattered throughout the city were nil and if he did, he could have also been holding a deadman switch that would set them off as soon as he let go or have them set off by a blast detector, etc. but in real life terrorists are not evil geniuses equipped with unlimited money and technology.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Jack D

    "In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button."

    Individuals, explosives and gases vary. The two situations were only very roughly comparable.

    Under the circumstances, I think the DPD made the right call.

    I won't reply to your Batman comment except to say I'm not the one who first mentioned Batman.

    , @Unidentified Chemical Substance
    @Jack D


    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.
     
    From Wikipedia: "All 40 of the attackers were killed, with no casualties among Spetsnaz; about 130 hostages died, including nine foreigners, due to adverse reactions to the gas. All but two of the hostages who died during the siege were killed by the toxic substance pumped into the theater to subdue the militants."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

    Replies: @Jack D

  402. @iSteveFan
    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Jack D, @Dirk Dagger

    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?

    That reads like a setup for a joke…

    Because it could be?

    Because rioters like Slurpees?

    Because they ran out of Skittles and Snapple?

    To get to the other side?

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Funny how 'lacks are so concerned about "discrimination," but they let first Orientals, now Subcons and MENA types monopolize their local businesses.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  403. @iSteveFan
    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Jack D, @Dirk Dagger

    Why did the scorpion sting the frog in the parable? It was just his nature.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Why did the scorpion sting the frog in the parable? It was just his nature.
     
    How can you think that way?
    The scorpion stung the frog owing to social constructs and what its nurture had made it believe scorpion society expected of it.

    :)..

  404. @Hepp
    @Anon


    I’m calling this the big turning point. None of the leftist bozos remember how Nixon got elected. It was the 60s riots that did it. The left is going to create more incidents like this with the idea of rousing black support for Hillary, and it’s going to make all the whites, centrists, and normal people vote for Trump. It’ll backfire on them badly.

     

    This isn't Nixon's America anymore. We're becoming like Sweden or France, where the majority of whites are too blind to be woken up by anything.

    Replies: @Wally, @SteveRogers42

    That’s what this election will determine — how many real Americans are left.

    For the first time in a long time, we have “A Choice, Not An Echo”, and the results will truly matter.

    Personally, I think that Admiral Yamamoto’s “sleeping giant” now has one eye open…but I’m an incurable optimist.

  405. @Jefferson
    @Brohemius

    "I was wondering when James Carville would add his two cents worth!"

    Washington is Hollywood for ugly people, but James Carville is extremely ugly even by Washington politician standards. He is one hideous Cajun.

    Carville makes George W. Bush look like Fabio Lanzoni in comparison. He has a UFO looking face and head. James looks like a government experiment from Area 51.

    Replies: @schmenz

    “He has a UFO looking face and head. James looks like a government experiment from Area 51.”

    Very funny, Jefferson. You’ve got a great way with words.

  406. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says:
    @iSteveFan
    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Jack D, @Dirk Dagger

    These is the undocumented reparations, no?

  407. In other news, The Atlantic is complaining that the Dallas PD used a “killer robot” to take out the guy who shot eleven police officers. Wait until they find out the robot was white.

    • Replies: @Psmith
    @SPMoore8

    I'm goddamned well complaining, and I'm not The Atlantic.

    You guys think, what, this is never going to be used against you and yours? Knowing the inclinations of our ruling class, the deployment of new technologies of social control is emphatically not something to celebrate.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Jack Hanson

    , @Mr. Blank
    @SPMoore8

    Every time I read about that robot, I chuckle and want to shout, "Optimus Prime saves the day again!"

    Replies: @Truth

  408. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.

    Going back to "not a Batman movie", the chances that Micah had the ability to remotely control a network of bombs scattered throughout the city were nil and if he did, he could have also been holding a deadman switch that would set them off as soon as he let go or have them set off by a blast detector, etc. but in real life terrorists are not evil geniuses equipped with unlimited money and technology.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Unidentified Chemical Substance

    “In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.”

    Individuals, explosives and gases vary. The two situations were only very roughly comparable.

    Under the circumstances, I think the DPD made the right call.

    I won’t reply to your Batman comment except to say I’m not the one who first mentioned Batman.

  409. If that’s how black dudes feel about US, just imagine how Muslims feel.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @George

    "If that’s how black dudes feel about US, just imagine how Muslims feel."

    Now just imagine how sensible white Americans feel about having these blacks and Muslims in the US.

  410. @Unladen Swallow
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wasn't around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn't a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90's was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I'm guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn't think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating "stories" with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast, @David In TN

    I agree. There was a real generational change. Maybe at the NYTimes, reporters were always from the more educated (and therefore liberal) classes, but at the blue collar papers, being a newspaperman used to be just another blue collar profession and the reporters were grizzled old cigar chomping professionals with no political agenda – they were just tradesmen doing their trade and their trade involved hanging around police stations and typing up news stories. Privately they might vote Democrat (or even Communist back in the day) but this had nothing to do with their job anymore than politics has anything to do with the job of a mechanic. Their overall attitude was a cynicism and somewhat bemused detachment about human nature because they had seen the dark side of it and this was an equal opportunity cynicism – all politicians were crooks, blacks were perpetrators as well as victims.

    But following Watergate, reporting came to be seen as a “calling” for young liberals and a journalism degree (or at least an English degree) became a prerequisite for a newspaper job – a reporter could “comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.” And afflicted mean minority and Democrat and comfortable mean Republican. And “comforting the afflicted” meant that you had to be on their side and could no longer regard them with anything except reverence as holy victims of whitey.

  411. @Jack D
    The good news for Trump is that there will be no further talk about Six Pointed Stars, which suddenly seems ridiculously trivial. A few days ago, Trump's son-in-law wrote a piece in which he explained that his grandparent's experience in the Holocaust had taught him the difference between REAL racism (the kind that involves the massacre of innocents) which demands attention and bogus "racism" (the kind that involves trumped up (no pun intended) controversies over the shape of a star in order to score political points), which is not worthy of any. Now Americans are learning the lesson he was trying to teach, the hard way.

    Replies: @Grumpy

    It doesn’t seem to work that way. We have a mass killing one week, and the next week we’re back to the politics of nonsense.

    We have already been through the Paris attacks, the San Bernardino attack, and the Orlando attack during this campaign cycle. That hasn’t stopped of us from talking about Michelle Fields’ arm or stars in tweets.

  412. @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    Why did the scorpion sting the frog in the parable? It was just his nature.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Why did the scorpion sting the frog in the parable? It was just his nature.

    How can you think that way?
    The scorpion stung the frog owing to social constructs and what its nurture had made it believe scorpion society expected of it.

    :)..

  413. @Buzz Mohawk
    @iSteveFan


    Why was the 7-11 in Dallas looted?
     
    That reads like a setup for a joke...

    Because it could be?

    Because rioters like Slurpees?

    Because they ran out of Skittles and Snapple?

    To get to the other side?

    Replies: @Marcus

    Funny how ‘lacks are so concerned about “discrimination,” but they let first Orientals, now Subcons and MENA types monopolize their local businesses.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Marcus

    "Funny how ‘lacks are so concerned about “discrimination,” but they let first Orientals, now Subcons and MENA types monopolize their local businesses."

    Do you know of any White neighborhoods where the majority of mom & pop businesses are owned by Arabs, Koreans, Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, and or Viets?

    Most immigrants can not afford to open mom & pop businesses in White neighborhoods because the retail rent is too expensive. Retail rent is dirt cheap in Black neighborhoods.

  414. @Daniel H
    @Dave Pinsen

    >>I’m somewhat strong, but I also weigh close to 300lbs....

    Wow. From the tone of your writing voice I got the impression that you carried some lean and mean hipster aspect, weighing about 175. I'm always wrong about these things.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Jim Don Bob

    You must have been thinking about me.

  415. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Unladen Swallow
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wasn't around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn't a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90's was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I'm guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn't think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating "stories" with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast, @David In TN

    That’s a very interesting notation, but how can we determine a couple of years (1989-1990) where it all began?

    It must have been more gradual.

    Maybe what changed was not all the media were owned by the very same group of people sharing the very same goals.

    University shifted from real liberalism to progressive-branded totalitarian ideology in the last 60’s. Perhaps it took till the early 90s for the change in journalism to be complete.
    In non-democracy, the whole media is a single voice, you don’t have different voices in the concert of information any longer.

  416. @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    A lot of the early thinking was distorted by the fact that the police and press were reporting multiple shooter, multiple arrests, etc. pointing to a conspiracy (not that blacks are incapable of conspiracies either - there are some black drug gangs of considerable size). A lone shooter requires much less "discipline and planning". It would not be surprising if the shooter turns out to have some military or other weapons training - there are plenty of blacks in the US military. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper's nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you're all set.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @peterike

    You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to set up a sniper’s nest in a tall building overlooking a crowd of unsuspecting civilians and police who are literally sitting ducks in such a situation. You bring a rifle and plenty of ammo and find a good spot and you’re all set.

    Precisely. I think a lot of people who have never shot a gun think it’s some kind of incredibly difficult thing to do. It isn’t. It’s quite easy, in fact. I’ve had no military training and I’ve never shot anything bigger than a woodchuck, but I could sit up in a garage and knock off people quite easily. You don’t have to be a sniper who can pluck someone off at 500 yards. The cops were basically right in front of him. And if you have somewhere to rest the gun, it’s a cinch.

  417. @Psmith

    one suspect had been killed by the police, who used a robot-controlled bomb
     
    Am I the only one who finds this extremely worrying?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Thirdtwin, @Anonymous Nephew, @John Mansfield, @Percy Gryce, @Perplexed

    White supremacy can be performed through robots too.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Percy Gryce

    "White supremacy can be performed through robots too."

    White supremacy is more powerful than God. White supremacy and not God created the world in 7 days and rested on Sunday.

  418. @Discordiax
    @Jack D

    I'm not an expert here, but I'm pretty sure the robot is property of the Bomb Squad (or whatever the Dallas PD bomb squad is called.)

    IT's designed and it exists to safely handle bombs. One way is a controlled detonation. (Keep people out of a certain radius, and the robot explosion sets off the main explosion)

    There were rumors swirling earlier that he died from a combination of the bomb-squad bomb and his bomb.

    Something to work on could be knockout-gas robots, etc.

    Replies: @woodNfish, @Jack D

    I would bet you that those rumors were as wrong as most of the other rumors that went around. He died because of the bomb squad bomb – he probably didn’t have any of his own at all, at least not on him. Using the bomb squad robot to blow up criminal suspects (even dangerous ones) to smithereens is a new and innovative use for them – I think this is literally the 1st time it has been done and I’m not sure that it is really a good idea, even in an extreme situation. To me is sounds like something from a dystopian sci-fi novel. What happened to Asimov’s first law of robotics? In reality, from the moment the 1st hominid picked up a rock, humans have eyed every new invention for its potential as a weapon and there’s no reason to think that robots would be exempt.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    @Jack D

    The 1985 firebombing of black radical group MOVE in Philadelphia is the closest thing I can think of in America.

    I'm really uncomfortable with the police using a bomb to kill this guy. They had him penned up and could have waited him out, used tear gas or shot him when he came out.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Lugash, @Clyde

    , @Mr. Blank
    @Jack D


    What happened to Asimov’s first law of robotics?
     
    Well, technically this was a remote controlled device under the direction of a human. It's really no different in concept from a Hellfire missile — just a heck of a lot slower.

    Asimov's laws were intended to apply to purely or mostly autonomous devices. Since this "robot" was presumably purely under human control the entire time, I fail to see how using it to kill someone is different from just shooting them with a gun.

    As to this being a "new and terrifying technology" in service of the state — well, two can play at that game, if it comes to that. Civilian remote-controlled and even autonomous devices have come a looooong way in recent years...

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

  419. @Jack D
    @Anonymous Nephew

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can't you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @iSteveFan, @Trumpenproleteriat, @Discordiax, @peterike

    If you can send in a robot with a bomb, why can’t you send in a robot with a stun grenade or with sleeping gas or a net or a taser or a tranquilizer dart or something that is less lethal than just blowing the guy up?

    Because if you’re sending in a robot with a bomb in the first place, the person on the receiving end probably deserves to die. Thank goodness they blew up this scum, else we’d be hearing from him and about him endlessly for years. He would be the next Mumia Abu-Jamal. As it is, he’s probably already a hero on Black Twitter and being endlessly excused on SJW Twitter. I’m not going to look myself because it’s hard to feel clean after seeing something like that.

  420. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.

    Going back to "not a Batman movie", the chances that Micah had the ability to remotely control a network of bombs scattered throughout the city were nil and if he did, he could have also been holding a deadman switch that would set them off as soon as he let go or have them set off by a blast detector, etc. but in real life terrorists are not evil geniuses equipped with unlimited money and technology.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Unidentified Chemical Substance

    In the Russian theater incident, the terrorists had wired up the place like crazy and the sleeping gas took effect before they could press the button.

    From Wikipedia: “All 40 of the attackers were killed, with no casualties among Spetsnaz; about 130 hostages died, including nine foreigners, due to adverse reactions to the gas. All but two of the hostages who died during the siege were killed by the toxic substance pumped into the theater to subdue the militants.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Unidentified Chemical Substance

    The reason all 40 terrorists died is because the Russians executed them on the spot while they were still knocked out. Whereas, in a situation like this, the American police take pains to capture the suspect alive and would never just blow his brains out right at the scene of the crime.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @BB753, @SPMoore8, @Jim Don Bob, @Unidentified Chemical Substance

  421. @Anonymous Nephew
    @BenKenobi

    That's a very appropriate quote, because the USA is exactly like Stalin's Soviet Union.

    "the Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers"

    Like they do in Baltimore and St Louis?

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/03/28/officer-shortage-hits-st-louis-city-and-county-police/

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96570

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    C’mon, buds.

    The federalization of local police departments as the end-game of all these events is a common idea here at iSteve.

    You don’t think it’s plausible that under a Killary administration HUD will have paramilitary forces to help the affirmative furthering go smoothly?

    Or perhaps SWAT teams working under the “It Takes A Village Act” will be taking children from White families for thought-crime, Elian Gonzalez-style?

  422. @candid_observer
    I find myself wondering, among other things, about who, exactly, made this happen.

    You're talking about two people acting in concert with assault rifles, and apparently at some distance and elevation. And they were able to escape, apparently. That's more organized than your average fringe.

    I wonder if it wasn't some group like the thugs who attacked the "neo-Nazis" in Sacramento, who had been preparing for violence for some time.

    Replies: @Paul Rise, @guest, @Curle, @Bill Jones

    Why do you think they used “assault rifles”?

  423. @iSteveFan
    @Jack D

    Maybe my description was confusing, but that is what I meant. If she gets 35% of the white vote in battleground states like OH, PA, VA and NC, she loses big time. If she gets 35% of the white vote in whitopias like ME, VT, NH, OR, and WA, she loses.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    Actually WA isn’t a whitopia. It ranks #26 in % of non-Hispanic whites. It is 30% minority compared to 6% in the most white state of Maine.

  424. @Harry Baldwin
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I agree with all your indictments of "W" except for Katrina. That was a shocking example of how blacks behave without close adult supervision, and it so unhinged the narrative that a white scapegoat had to quickly be identified, and that was the president. The federal government handled Tropical Storm Sandy no better, but since it was so close to the 2012 election that media protected Obama. Frankly, the federal government is just not very good at handling emergencies like this whoever is in charge.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @JohnnyWalker123

    Bush shouldn’t have appointed Michael Brown (an inexperienced crony who had previously worked as a horse breeder) to be FEMA director.

    Of course I also blame Mayor Nagin and the state governor too.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Bush shouldn’t have appointed Michael Brown (an inexperienced crony who had previously worked as a horse breeder) to be FEMA director.

    Of course I also blame Mayor Nagin and the state governor too.
     
    We're way off topic now but:
    -- A federal agency should be able to run decently and do it's job even if the guy at the top is a paper pusher. That's the point of the Civil Service.

    -- Because it was Bush this debacle was somehow supposed to be a federal issue, but it's state and local governments that have to be prepared for emergencies. The feds are a "feds to the rescue" force. They can't--and constitutionally should not be--be developers of contingency planning for every fricking community in the US.

    -- It's stupid to have a big city in New Orleans--or at least the parts of it that are below sea level and in a known hurricane LZ. It was bad 200 years ago, and the channelling of the Mississippi, prevention of it flooding and silting its lower reaches--rather dumping its silt ever further out in the Gulf--are making it worse. All those below sea level areas of New Orleans--e.x. 9th ward--should have just been torn down and turned into parkland\flood reserve.

    Bush's list of screwups is great. The worse to me, not even Iraq, but attempts to sell out his voters with amnesty. Katrina ain't one of them.

    BTW, there's a lesson to all the responsible men here: *You* should be ready to handle your family's needs in an emergency--food, water, shelter, heat, security, etc. Don't expect the feds to come to riding to the rescue.
  425. @Ron Unz
    Apparently the two snipers killed four police officers and wounded another eight at the BLM protest:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

    Offhand, I'm not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.

    As the saying goes, this could be "a long hot summer"...

    Replies: @AndyBoy, @pink_point, @Clyde, @Talha, @JimB, @Chris Mallory, @Dr. X, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Charlesz Martel

    Oh yeah, it did. Look up the killings in New Orleans circa 1970 where a sniper went to the roof of a hotel, shot at and killed whites – I can’t remember the number. I believe he also killed a white man he ran into on his way to the roof of the hotel and told a black maid “We’re only killing white folks”. The police used a helicopter to rake the rooftop of the hotel with bullets all night. His body was found riddled with bullets the next morning. There was talk of other shooters, but nothing ever came of it.

    I knew a guy 20-30 years ago who told me that in his Southern City, the police chief had asked members of the local R/C Airplane club if they could design a R/C plane with a video camera that the police could use inn a similar situation, as they were expecting similar attacks all around the country. Before much could be done, he came back and told them to forget about it and not to mention the project to anybody, under threat of making their lives hell. An early drone attempt for law enforcement.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
    @Charlesz Martel

    Mark Essex. Killed 5 cops and 4 civilians. Eerily similar motives to this.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Essex

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    , @Dew
    @Charlesz Martel

    Mark Essex. What frightening piece of work.

    http://www.nola.com/175years/index.ssf/2011/12/1973_mark_essex_the_howard_joh.html

    As for this Micah X. Johnson guy, he was a totally into the whole black power scene like Essex. Supported BLM of course. Hilariously enough, he was one of those "WE WAZ KINGS" types. We need to take down all black power flags. This is getting ridiculous.

    http://archive.is/Dw2Sg

  426. @Wilkey
    Race riots, cop killings, dozens of cities with murder rates back to where the were in the early 90s, flagrant and unprosecuted abuse of power by hundreds if not thousands of government officials, a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans, stagnant economic growth, stagnant income growth (except for the rich), record budget deficits for times of alleged prosperity (inlcuding 3-4 consecutive deficits of over a trillion dollars), the Middle East in absolute chaos, an immigration agency that is actively *importing* illegal aliens into the country.

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Pericles

    Thank God we made a brilliant man like Barack Obama our president.

    Twice!

  427. @Ron Unz
    @Clyde



    Offhand, I’m not sure whether anything like this ever happened even with the Black Panthers during the 1960s.
     
    Are you for real!!!??? NEVER GOT CLOSE! Said with respect Mr Unz :) Back then a few B Panthers were offed by the cops here and there. Plus Black Panthers killed B Panthers.
     
    Actually, I think a number of police officers may have been assassinated by the Black Panthers in Oakland back then, and probably some others around the country. But nothing like so many at one time by this planned sniper attack. And even during the huge, deadly riots around the country, there weren't any deadly sniper ambushes like this.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Harry Baldwin, @Jefferson

    “You’re assuming that the fundamental racial divide in the US is “white” vs “non-white.”

    The Dems certainly try to frame it so but in reality the divide is black vs nonblack.”

    Ron Unz even though you are a Liberal, you are not a fan of the African Americans correct? I remember you said they are the demographic that commits the most crime in this country. Liberals almost never openly admit that. You are an anomaly among your people. Most Liberals say they are more afraid of getting shot, raped, beaten, robbed, and or stabbed by a White Christian Republican.

  428. @CJ
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The number seems way out of line to me too, although there may be a lot more "suicide by cop" in the U.S. than elsewhere. Some comparative international stats for you here.

    http://theindependent.ca/2015/04/14/stop-the-killing-fatal-police-shootings-in-canada/


    Total fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per year

    United States 930
    Canada 25
    Germany 8
    Australia 5
    United Kingdom 2
    Japan 0

    [..]

    Fatal police shootings/law enforcement homicides per million people

    United States 2.9
    Alberta 1.4
    Canada 0.7
    Ontario 0.6
    Nfld & Lab 0.3
    Australia 0.2
    Germany 0.1
    United Kingdom 0.04
    Japan 0.0

    [..]

    Number of homicides per 100,000 people per year

    United States 4.7
    Alberta 2.3
    Canada 1.6
    Ontario 1.3
    United Kingdom 1.0
    Australia 0.9
    Germany 0.8
    Nfld & Lab 0.7
    Japan 0.3
     

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @JohnnyWalker123

    Suicide rates don’t explain it.

    The US has twice the suicide rate of the UK. However, a US non-Hispanic white is about 90x as likely to be killed by police than a Briton.

    2x the suicide rate and 90x the cop-inflicted homicide rate.

    One study found that about 16% of cop-inflicted homicides involved individuals with suicidal intentions. If we assume all those homicides were among whites and also assume a 0% suicide-by-cop rate in the UK, then the White-American:UK disparity drops from 90:1 to about 60:1.

    So still a 60:1 ratio.

    If we assume there are some suicide-by-cop among blacks or Britons, then the 60:1 ratio would rise.

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/insight/2015/01/11/01-suicide-by-cop-difficult-to-study-leaves-police-officers-devastated.html

    There’s also the question of why there’d be so many more suicide-by-cops among Americans than Britons. That’d negatively reflect on our social/criminal justice/healthcare system.

  429. @SPMoore8
    In other news, The Atlantic is complaining that the Dallas PD used a "killer robot" to take out the guy who shot eleven police officers. Wait until they find out the robot was white.

    Replies: @Psmith, @Mr. Blank

    I’m goddamned well complaining, and I’m not The Atlantic.

    You guys think, what, this is never going to be used against you and yours? Knowing the inclinations of our ruling class, the deployment of new technologies of social control is emphatically not something to celebrate.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    @Psmith

    Son, you can buy six AR 15s but you can only fire one at a time. Same goes for Glocks or any other hand gun with 12, 18, or 30 round magazines.

    In fact, the police have had citizens outgunned for many decades. It may satisfy a romantic notion of single combat to be taken out in a firefight, but that's not reality.

    Replies: @Psmith

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Psmith

    How about we worry about the race war that is kicking off first before getting into libertarian-autist arguments about "Statist control being used against you, maaaaaaan!"

  430. @Jack D
    @Discordiax

    I would bet you that those rumors were as wrong as most of the other rumors that went around. He died because of the bomb squad bomb - he probably didn't have any of his own at all, at least not on him. Using the bomb squad robot to blow up criminal suspects (even dangerous ones) to smithereens is a new and innovative use for them - I think this is literally the 1st time it has been done and I'm not sure that it is really a good idea, even in an extreme situation. To me is sounds like something from a dystopian sci-fi novel. What happened to Asimov's first law of robotics? In reality, from the moment the 1st hominid picked up a rock, humans have eyed every new invention for its potential as a weapon and there's no reason to think that robots would be exempt.

    Replies: @Lugash, @Mr. Blank

    The 1985 firebombing of black radical group MOVE in Philadelphia is the closest thing I can think of in America.

    I’m really uncomfortable with the police using a bomb to kill this guy. They had him penned up and could have waited him out, used tear gas or shot him when he came out.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Lugash

    The fact that he wasn't taken alive will also give grist to the conspiracy mill (not that it needs much).

    , @Lugash
    @Lugash

    I'd have liked him to be taken alive in case he made any trips to Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc.

    , @Clyde
    @Lugash


    I’m really uncomfortable with the police using a bomb to kill this guy. They had him penned up and could have waited him out, used tear gas or shot him when he came out.
     
    The taxpayers saved millions in trial and incarceration expenses. Plus we were spared liberal bed wetters asking what his motivations were.

    Replies: @BB753

  431. @Lugash
    @Jack D

    The 1985 firebombing of black radical group MOVE in Philadelphia is the closest thing I can think of in America.

    I'm really uncomfortable with the police using a bomb to kill this guy. They had him penned up and could have waited him out, used tear gas or shot him when he came out.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Lugash, @Clyde

    The fact that he wasn’t taken alive will also give grist to the conspiracy mill (not that it needs much).

  432. @Percy Gryce
    @Psmith

    White supremacy can be performed through robots too.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “White supremacy can be performed through robots too.”

    White supremacy is more powerful than God. White supremacy and not God created the world in 7 days and rested on Sunday.

  433. @SPMoore8
    In other news, The Atlantic is complaining that the Dallas PD used a "killer robot" to take out the guy who shot eleven police officers. Wait until they find out the robot was white.

    Replies: @Psmith, @Mr. Blank

    Every time I read about that robot, I chuckle and want to shout, “Optimus Prime saves the day again!”

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @Truth
    @Mr. Blank

    When that robot comes through your front door to take your pistol, your dumb ass will be shouting something... a little different.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @SPMoore8, @Brutusale

  434. They did this young man, Micah Johnson, like they did Mike Brown in Ferguson. It’s innocent until proven guilty if you white only.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Bryant Gummel

    You misspelled your nom de internet, moron. Go ask HuffPo for another one.

  435. @iSteveFan
    @David In TN

    She cancelled a speech today where she was going to discuss the recent deaths of the two black guys killed by cops.

    Replies: @Trumpenproleteriat, @David In TN

    In 1970, liberal democrats were forced to praise the misunderstood police in order to win elections. If Hillary does that, you’ll know she’s in big trouble.

  436. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Wilkey


    ...a VA that is completely indifferent to the needs of veterans...
     
    The VA hospital here in Sioux Falls, has been magnificent for my father. He'd be dead more than once, if it weren't for their great (and very costly...yet still free-to-him) work. I understand there are some very real and very serious problems with the VA, but let's not jump on the bandwagon of just dismissing the agency as a whole. There are some great people who work for the VA, too.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    My wife’s uncle got some very good care from the VA hospital in Chicago. For a decade, they used him, a STEM Ph.D., as a volunteer lab rat with new technologies they wanted to try out and then would incorporate some of his suggestions into their procedures.

  437. @Psmith
    @SPMoore8

    I'm goddamned well complaining, and I'm not The Atlantic.

    You guys think, what, this is never going to be used against you and yours? Knowing the inclinations of our ruling class, the deployment of new technologies of social control is emphatically not something to celebrate.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Jack Hanson

    Son, you can buy six AR 15s but you can only fire one at a time. Same goes for Glocks or any other hand gun with 12, 18, or 30 round magazines.

    In fact, the police have had citizens outgunned for many decades. It may satisfy a romantic notion of single combat to be taken out in a firefight, but that’s not reality.

    • Replies: @Psmith
    @Spmoore8

    That's why you don't show up alone to a gun fight, son.

    Anyway, think on the margin. But Mr. Blank has the right of it. When drones are outlawed....

  438. @George
    If that's how black dudes feel about US, just imagine how Muslims feel.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “If that’s how black dudes feel about US, just imagine how Muslims feel.”

    Now just imagine how sensible white Americans feel about having these blacks and Muslims in the US.

  439. @Jack D
    @Discordiax

    I would bet you that those rumors were as wrong as most of the other rumors that went around. He died because of the bomb squad bomb - he probably didn't have any of his own at all, at least not on him. Using the bomb squad robot to blow up criminal suspects (even dangerous ones) to smithereens is a new and innovative use for them - I think this is literally the 1st time it has been done and I'm not sure that it is really a good idea, even in an extreme situation. To me is sounds like something from a dystopian sci-fi novel. What happened to Asimov's first law of robotics? In reality, from the moment the 1st hominid picked up a rock, humans have eyed every new invention for its potential as a weapon and there's no reason to think that robots would be exempt.

    Replies: @Lugash, @Mr. Blank

    What happened to Asimov’s first law of robotics?

    Well, technically this was a remote controlled device under the direction of a human. It’s really no different in concept from a Hellfire missile — just a heck of a lot slower.

    Asimov’s laws were intended to apply to purely or mostly autonomous devices. Since this “robot” was presumably purely under human control the entire time, I fail to see how using it to kill someone is different from just shooting them with a gun.

    As to this being a “new and terrifying technology” in service of the state — well, two can play at that game, if it comes to that. Civilian remote-controlled and even autonomous devices have come a looooong way in recent years…

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Mr. Blank


    Civilian remote-controlled and even autonomous devices
     
    Wahhabi/Salafis have been using them in The Stan/Iraq/Syria for decades. Mostly cobbled together from meat and ignorance in a back room somewhere. It's way cheaper, apart from the time-lag in programming. And retrieving the resultant scrap isn't worth risking your ass for, unlike a proper robot. Fire and forget.

    Replies: @Jack D

  440. @Unladen Swallow
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wasn't around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn't a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90's was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I'm guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn't think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating "stories" with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast, @David In TN

    I agree. I get the impression the liberal-progressive types of the pre-’68er, pre-Boomer generation were biased but thought of themselves as professionals with a responsibility to convey news and analysis as objectively as possible. That was the expected norm, I mean. The ones who came after openly celebrate “spin” – ie lying – and are rewarded for their ability to deliberately misunderstand and twist the words and actions of whoever finds themselves out of favour.

    People got used to this malpractice by the media and assumed it was “the new normal”. Ironically, lots of current and ex-journalists made a nice living consulting their clients on how to make peace with the media tyrants and shakedown artists. They got money and status for extorting people and then for advising them how to avoid future shakedowns by their colleges. Nice. That’s why it’s so much fun to see these spinmeisters run up against Putin or Trump.

  441. @Jack D
    @Luke Lea

    If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that..... Trump is evil.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jefferson

    “If Trump had (and this could never happen) the backing of 99% of whites, this would be seen as proof positive that he was a extremely racist candidate who was pandering to whites in order to gain their unanimous support, but if Hillary has the backing of 99% of blacks, this is proof positive that….. Trump is evil.”

    Even when Adolf Hitler was in power he never had 99 percent support from the German people.

    African Americans must really be flattered when Hildabeast starts speaking like a Black woman from Georgia at African American rallies. They don’t see it as racist cultural appropriation when she does it. She gets a pass because Hildabeast is an Honorary Black Sista, just like Elizabeth Warren is an Honorary Amerindian.

  442. @Unladen Swallow
    @Harry Baldwin

    I wasn't around for the 1968 election, and so this may be a semantic issue, but I am not arguing that there wasn't a liberal bias to the media prior to the 1992 election, but what changed in the early 90's was a kind of active disinformation and spinning of stories as they were reporting them as news stories. Prior to that time if something was embarrassing to the left but made good copy ( money ) the news media, liberal though they were, would still put it out there without hesitation.

    Beginning around that period 1989-90, there was ( I'm guessing ) a generational change in the MSM, suddenly the media changed from reporting the news with a liberal tilt to actively telling the public what they should or shouldn't think about the news as they were reporting it, and barring real news, creating "stories" with a strong liberal bias. There were turning news reports into op-ed pieces but still pretending they were news pieces. That was the distinction I was trying to make.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Cagey Beast, @David In TN

    I was around for the 1968 election and media types were as biased as today. There was even a book about it, “The News Twisters,” by Edith Efron. You might want to hunt down a copy.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @David In TN

    Perhaps I am not being clear, the MSM has had a liberal bias for a long time, no doubt about it, but about a quarter century ago, they started more actively interpreting the news as they reported it, instead of just slapping a liberal comment on after the fact of reporting it. What changed around 1990 was a kind of active spin as the news was being reported. When I was growing up in the 1980's I started paying attention to the news, and although the MSM had a clear liberal tilt, it still reported the news largely free of political spin, particularly when stories first emerged. The editorials that would follow may be liberal, but the reporting at least initially didn't really have a lot of political favoritism, and if it did and if you were aware of it, you could easily filter it.

    After around 1989-90 time frame there was an almost constant spin being put on the news by the MSM. Before that time there was a clear distinction between news and op-ed pieces, and the media reported things largely without worrying that their political fellow travelers would not like it, if they didn't report it, others would seemed to be their motto. After that time period, the media became like the state owned media in a authoritarian country, particularly if the Democrats controlled the White House, they were actively spinning the news to conform to their ideological world view. Additionally there were still major media outlets in 1968 that were not liberal in the editorial worldview, today outside of the Wall Street Journal editorial page you would be hard pressed to find any MSM outlet that is not left wing 24X7 in both reporting and editorials.

    Comparing 2016 with 1968, I think both the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune were largely conservative in their op-eds and reporting in that era, and they were and are the largest newspapers in the country's second and third largest cities, in an era when people actually read newspapers. US News and World Report was largely a conservative oriented news magazine well into the 1980's as well and so provided an active alternative to Time and Newsweek. So in 1968, there were still media outlets that you could get news from that didn't have a liberal slant that were still considered part of the national mainstream media, today, you have to go the web if you want any respite from it at all.

    Replies: @WhatEvvs, @David In TN

  443. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    These days, Democrats are far more hostile to Whites than back in the 60s. Back then, there were still lots of guido ethnics, blue collar hardhats, and southern "good ole boys" in the party. Not as much these days. Trump should be able to do relatively better with white voters in this more polarized electorate.

    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right. Reagan won 66% of the white vote in 1984. Nixon got 68% of the white vote in 1972.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Wency

    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right.

    Problem is Trump needs 60% of the white vote just to win. Not a landslide or a “mandate”, just to get the ball inches across the goal line.

  444. @Diversity Heretic
    @Svigor

    I'm not sure what the term "triangulate" means in this context. Perhaps "crossfire" was what was meant. If an ambush is set up correctly a target seeking cover from one shooter exposes himself to the fire from another. A good tactic if you can pull it off, but it usually requires some scouting to select the firing points.

    One other point while I'm at it. I sure don't mean to be critical of the Dallas PD but some of the photos I saw showed officers closely bunched up. That's a natural tendency in a firefight but in a really serious engagement, it means that one grenade can kill or injure 5-7 police and there's no reason to think that the police won't be facing grenades pretty soon. The Dallas PD needs some intensive gunfight training..

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Dallas PD during the firefight looked like they were sorely lacking in helmets, body armor, and long guns. I presume they were deployed unprepared to present a friendlier look to BLM protestors? You wouldn’t want a Militarized Police Force, now would you?

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Steve Sailer

    As a LEO, it's always interesting when you see what people think law enforcement is vs. What the reality is.

    For example, the idea every police officer is a sniper/marksman when the shit hits the fan. Reality is it's a mission to get people to practice with their own pistol on their own time. Fitness is the same way.

    Darren Wilson got dragged through the mud, but he seemed like he took policing seriously on all fronts.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Grumpy
    @Steve Sailer

    Great point.

    Here's how the San Jose police were dressed for a Trump rally:

    http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/TL_Trump_Protests_San_Diego_Stone_160527_12x5_1600.jpg

    And here's how the Dallas police were dressed for a Black Lives Matter protest:

    http://bluelivesmatter.blue/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/dallas-black-lives-matter-terrorist-killed-standoff.jpg

    Replies: @Grumpy

    , @Andrew
    @Steve Sailer

    The Dallas Police Chief is conflicted on the entire issue.

    His son was a cop killer.

    http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2010/06/the-virulent-eruption-surround.html/

    http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2010/06/decision-to-use-on-duty-office.html/

  445. @Marcus
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Funny how 'lacks are so concerned about "discrimination," but they let first Orientals, now Subcons and MENA types monopolize their local businesses.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Funny how ‘lacks are so concerned about “discrimination,” but they let first Orientals, now Subcons and MENA types monopolize their local businesses.”

    Do you know of any White neighborhoods where the majority of mom & pop businesses are owned by Arabs, Koreans, Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis, and or Viets?

    Most immigrants can not afford to open mom & pop businesses in White neighborhoods because the retail rent is too expensive. Retail rent is dirt cheap in Black neighborhoods.

  446. @Psmith
    @SPMoore8

    I'm goddamned well complaining, and I'm not The Atlantic.

    You guys think, what, this is never going to be used against you and yours? Knowing the inclinations of our ruling class, the deployment of new technologies of social control is emphatically not something to celebrate.

    Replies: @Spmoore8, @Jack Hanson

    How about we worry about the race war that is kicking off first before getting into libertarian-autist arguments about “Statist control being used against you, maaaaaaan!”

  447. @candid_observer
    @Curle

    I think it's going to make a lot of difference who the people were who did this, and what their motivations were. Whether they were BLM (whatever that means) or some far left anarchist group killing cops in sympathy with BLM is probably not going to matter much politically. Obviously, if it is some other kind of group, or other set of motivations, it will, but I don't see that to be very likely. You really have to be willing to throw your own life away to do something like this, and I can see a couple of people, each filled with rage over the killing of Blacks, choosing to do it, but not two people who just share some nutty ideology.

    Maybe the Dems didn't get much punishment electorally over Orlando, but there's a crucial difference. They couldn't be see as actually encouraging the anger that motivated Orlando. Their policies were of course the opposite of protective, but they didn't play an active part in making it happen. In this case, assuming it's someone sympathetic with BLM who has perpetrated the murders, both Obama and Hillary can be said to have fostered the anger. They bear direct responsibility. That's a very important difference, politically.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Maybe the Dems didn’t get much punishment electorally over Orlando, but there’s a crucial difference. They couldn’t be see as actually encouraging the anger that motivated Orlando. Their policies were of course the opposite of protective, but they didn’t play an active part in making it happen. In this case, assuming it’s someone sympathetic with BLM who has perpetrated the murders, both Obama and Hillary can be said to have fostered the anger. They bear direct responsibility. That’s a very important difference, politically.

    Candid this is an excellent paragraph of argument. And i hope you’re right that that sort of thought at least vaguely flutters through the brains of some white (and even Asian and “Hispanic” and middle class black) “independent” voters.

    But honestly i look out on world full of disgusting privileged and full of themselves race-traitor white women and cucks…. and i’m not even sure it’s possible.

    Obama can ship black dysfunction into a white town–say Dubuque–with one hand, then turn on the racial mau-mauing when the inevitable black misbehavior results in some cop-creep confrontations and shooting … and still these white people sit around thinking their nice white people thoughts.

    • Agree: Kylie
  448. Jack Hanson says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Dallas PD during the firefight looked like they were sorely lacking in helmets, body armor, and long guns. I presume they were deployed unprepared to present a friendlier look to BLM protestors? You wouldn't want a Militarized Police Force, now would you?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Grumpy, @Andrew

    As a LEO, it’s always interesting when you see what people think law enforcement is vs. What the reality is.

    For example, the idea every police officer is a sniper/marksman when the shit hits the fan. Reality is it’s a mission to get people to practice with their own pistol on their own time. Fitness is the same way.

    Darren Wilson got dragged through the mud, but he seemed like he took policing seriously on all fronts.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack Hanson


    Darren Wilson got dragged through the mud, but he seemed like he took policing seriously on all fronts.
     
    Yeah. And has Obama or Holder or Soros or Sharpton or Debbie Wasserman or Hillary or any Democrat or *anyone* ever apologized to Darren Wilson for unfairly maligning him and his professionalism, when by all the reports i've pieced together he comes across as having acted competently and professionally in a tough situation dealing with a big hostile asshole.

    Darren, if you're ever in my town i'll buy you dinner and a beer. Job well done.
  449. @Connecticut Famer
    @iSteveFan

    BLM provides the "muscle" for the demokrat party. They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    Replies: @Drakejax, @CJ

    To be historically accurate, you mean what the SA (Sturm Abteilung or storm detachments) were to the Nazi Party. The SA were party, not government, people. The Gestapo were government employees for the “secret state police” which Gestapo was the official German acronym for. The Gestapo equivalent today for the Democrats would appear to be the FBI.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @Drakejax

    How would you characterize the SS (Schutstaffel)? They began as Hitler's personal bodyguard, until he used them to suppress the SA (the Army didn't want to do the dirty work). Eventually they grew to be rivél of the Army, although if you want to create an elite military unit, the SS is the model of how not to do it.

  450. The DNC wants you to know that it regards the killings in Dallas as “unacceptable”:

    What’s heinous, of course, is that six point star.

  451. @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Dallas PD during the firefight looked like they were sorely lacking in helmets, body armor, and long guns. I presume they were deployed unprepared to present a friendlier look to BLM protestors? You wouldn't want a Militarized Police Force, now would you?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Grumpy, @Andrew

    Great point.

    Here’s how the San Jose police were dressed for a Trump rally:

    And here’s how the Dallas police were dressed for a Black Lives Matter protest:

    • Replies: @Grumpy
    @Grumpy

    Correction... those were San Diego cops at the Trump rally in May.

  452. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    These days, Democrats are far more hostile to Whites than back in the 60s. Back then, there were still lots of guido ethnics, blue collar hardhats, and southern "good ole boys" in the party. Not as much these days. Trump should be able to do relatively better with white voters in this more polarized electorate.

    So I could see Trump winning 60% of the white vote if he plays his cards right. Reagan won 66% of the white vote in 1984. Nixon got 68% of the white vote in 1972.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Wency

    Romney won 59% of the white vote and still lost by 4 points. He would have lost with 61%. With today’s demographics, he would have lost by 5 points, all else equal.

    The stats you cite are from popular incumbents. You can’t compare them to non-incumbents (let alone non-politicians). The last non-incumbent to beat Romney’s share of the white vote was H.W. Bush in ’88, with 60% (and he probably deserves a partial incumbency benefit). Before that, it might have been Eisenhower in ’52, though his 55% probably included a significant black share. I’m inclined to think H.W. had the best white share since sometime in the Antebellum era.

    In other words, W., H.W., Reagan, and Nixon would have all lost under today’s demographics.

    If turnout and the non-white vote were static relative to 2012, Trump would need to win 62% of the white vote for the election to be a toss-up, or 2-3 points more than any post-Civil War non-incumbent. Maybe it feels like that’s happening to some people here, but I don’t see it. I see a lot of lifelong Republicans defecting.

    Maybe black turnout suffers and drifts back towards 10% Republican, and white turnout improves, and therefore maybe the election is a toss-up at a nonetheless record-breaking 60-61% of the white vote. Of course, all the racist accusations against Trump might keep black turnout more or less the same, while the amateurness of the Trump campaign prevents the white vote from improving.

    In any case, it’s a fair bet that Trump or any Republican will lose. There will not be another Republican president in the U.S. as currently constituted, at least not without some kind of total Democrat collapse, significantly worse than 1968, which Humphrey would have won handily with today’s electorate.

    Every election, demographics give the Democrats another 1-2 points, so the magnitude of disaster that they can afford to preside over while retaining power is ever-expanding.

    This is not your country anymore, kids.

  453. @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Dallas PD during the firefight looked like they were sorely lacking in helmets, body armor, and long guns. I presume they were deployed unprepared to present a friendlier look to BLM protestors? You wouldn't want a Militarized Police Force, now would you?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Grumpy, @Andrew

  454. CJ says:
    @Connecticut Famer
    @iSteveFan

    BLM provides the "muscle" for the demokrat party. They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    Replies: @Drakejax, @CJ

    They are to the demokrat party what the Gestapo was to the Nazi Party.

    You’ve got a point, but they are more like the storm troopers of the Democrats, not the Gestapo. Gestapo were an organized secret police who arrested and interrogated suspects after the NSDAP took power. Storm troopers attacked the opponents of the NSDAP at public events before and after 1933, but weren’t needed once power had been consolidated.

  455. @Grumpy
    @Steve Sailer

    Great point.

    Here's how the San Jose police were dressed for a Trump rally:

    http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/TL_Trump_Protests_San_Diego_Stone_160527_12x5_1600.jpg

    And here's how the Dallas police were dressed for a Black Lives Matter protest:

    http://bluelivesmatter.blue/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/dallas-black-lives-matter-terrorist-killed-standoff.jpg

    Replies: @Grumpy

    Correction… those were San Diego cops at the Trump rally in May.

  456. @anonymous
    It's supposedly up to four snipers now. It'll be of great interest to see who the dead suspect turns out to be. The spin will come in, gun control, bullet-proof vest control, 'climate of hate' brought about by Trump, etc. The number of gunmen might shrink down again giving rise to speculation about cover-ups, false flags and Maiden-style provocations.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    false flags and Maiden-style provocations.

    Run to the Hills? Up to eleven?

  457. @Polymath
    Why are so many of the people cops shoot men? #malelivesmatter

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Outrageous. They’re falling down on the “shooting dogs and kids” metric. Used to be so good.

  458. @YT Wurlitzer
    I blame the president, media and D-Party for stoking this. It's been a one-sided selective view at least since Traynon Martin. I don't know if the two most recent incidents were justified or not, but they certainly could have been. And they could certainly be the result of police trying to survive their shift. What is certain is that the police will not be less prone to shoot following Dallas.

    So congrats CNNMSNBCFOXCBSACBNBCPBSETC and President Obama; you finally got that domestic terrorism you worked to hard to achieve. Who benefits? Well, all the failures have been wiped from the news, the economy, healthcare, foreign affairs, the new wars Obama has started, the fact that he was over meeting with NATO - what to make of arming terrorist in Syria, illegally overthrowing Gaddafi and Fast and Furious - the new bank failures and bailouts, the failed economy, the 'immigration' that is really an invasion force and who created it by overthrowing governments, the corruption being exposed at the highest levels of government, and so on.

    How will we have political conventions be this summer, or are they no longer necessary?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “So congrats CNNMSNBCFOXCBSACBNBCPBSETC and President Obama; you finally got that domestic terrorism you worked to hard to achieve.”

    Why congratulations? Do you think the Obama administration and the mainstream media were happy when it turned out the domestic terrorist who murdered those police officers is a Black man? They were hoping the domestic terrorist would end up being a White Christian Republican who was wearing a “Make America Great Again” t-shirt.

    This is just more example of Blacks behaving badly and that is something the mainstream media hates to cover. They have to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover it.

    They were praying for this to be another Timothy McVeigh and all they got was Barack Hussein Obama’s son.

  459. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Ron Unz

    As I recall, the worst incident involved a bunch of Negro thugs plotting and executing the ambush murder of two patrol officers in NYC. This was front page news in the NYT for weeks. There were also a number of isolated murders of police, e.g., by Chesimard and by a couple of White Brandeis SDS coeds hanging out with White gangsters in Boston. Nothing at all like this.

    We are simmering on the verge of a race war here and I lay most of it on that idiot in the White House who is either utterly ignorant of race relations in this country or is trying to start a race war. Every time he has inserted himself into situations like this -- which are not part of his purview -- he has increased tensions to frightening degrees.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Expletive Deleted

    Every time he has inserted himself ..

    and

    .. inserting himself unnecessarily ..

    I am now officially triggered. You will be hearing from my attorney, counselor, mom etc.

  460. @Mr. Blank
    @SPMoore8

    Every time I read about that robot, I chuckle and want to shout, "Optimus Prime saves the day again!"

    Replies: @Truth

    When that robot comes through your front door to take your pistol, your dumb ass will be shouting something… a little different.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Truth

    "Optimus Prime, what about freedom being the right of all sentient beings?!"

    , @SPMoore8
    @Truth

    There are two alternatives to having a robot ("Danger, Will Robinson, formerly known as Truth!") knock on your door and politely ask for your weapon. #1 - The cops can flash bang your home and accidentally on purpose set fire to it and shoot you down when you flee, or #2 - The cops can flash bang your home, and do a home invasion, shooting your pets and other family members before cuffing you, until the find out they have the wrong address.

    Under any scenario, you lose. The fact that they used a robot to kill this guy is not even on the list of things to worry about.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Steve Sailer

    , @Brutusale
    @Truth

    A slave cannot be freed, save he do it himself. Nor can you enslave a free man; the most you can do is kill him.--RAH

  461. @Lugash
    @Jack D

    The 1985 firebombing of black radical group MOVE in Philadelphia is the closest thing I can think of in America.

    I'm really uncomfortable with the police using a bomb to kill this guy. They had him penned up and could have waited him out, used tear gas or shot him when he came out.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Lugash, @Clyde

    I’d have liked him to be taken alive in case he made any trips to Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc.

  462. @Svigor

    So the police can just shoot any motorist for “noncompliance” at a whim?
     
    Your framing is tendentious. The police are going to do what they're going to do (yes, that's a whole other, valid conversation). What we do during a stop is all we can fully control. And I submit that, based on everything I've read, the fellow in Minnesota could easily have avoided being shot and killed, if he'd just had a bit of common sense, like, don't inform an officer that you have a gun as you reach for it. Obviously the cop shouldn't have shot him, but the lesson is that he isn't the one who will soon be pushing up daisies. In other words, nobody's as invested in keeping you alive as you are.

    FFS, you'd think this shit would be rote, given all the whingeing blacks do about police harassment, BLM, etc.

    Replies: @Thea, @Jack D

    There are a few problems with this, some of them self-inflicted and some not. First of all, you have to take black people in contact with the police as they are. If they were smarter and had better social skills then chances are they would not be contact with the police in the first place.

    2nd, and this is much more controllable, is that “black pride” / machismo causes some of them to be defiant in the presence of authority- they just can’t bring themselves to be compliant and deferential to the hated po -lice.

    Somewhere in between the two is the fact that at the time of their encounters with the popo, they may be under the influence of various mind altering substances so their already not very formidable intellect is further “blunted”.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jack D

    It was not always this bad. Blacks used to comply with the police same as whites. But they are energized these days as they see whitey (men and women) caving into black culture/rap music/professional basketball and football. They have whites intimated and looking up them. Having sex with them and making babies with them.

    Add the toxic Obama administration to this toxic mix and black boldness has become boundless in the last seven years. Look at all the over hiring of blacks in many government agencies (state, local, Federal) via the affirmative action royal scam. The elite's royal battering ram in the war of the high and the low against the middle.
    All the county bus drivers are black. This is a lock on good gov't jobs with good bennies. I know this from a retired white bus driver. Most of the riders of these nearly empty buses are black.

    They have a great thing going for themselves. Of course many blow it and don't take full advantage of all the gimmies being handed out by the reviled white taxpayers.
    There are many peaceful blacks at least in my part of the country. But even they are hooked in America's abundance. I see totally unintelligent ones driving very nice late year automobiles. How do they pull this off? Long term leases to the non-qualified?

    Just today I was reading in the New Yorker about the insanely brutal, constant wars in the Congo.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  463. @Mr. Blank
    @Jack D


    What happened to Asimov’s first law of robotics?
     
    Well, technically this was a remote controlled device under the direction of a human. It's really no different in concept from a Hellfire missile — just a heck of a lot slower.

    Asimov's laws were intended to apply to purely or mostly autonomous devices. Since this "robot" was presumably purely under human control the entire time, I fail to see how using it to kill someone is different from just shooting them with a gun.

    As to this being a "new and terrifying technology" in service of the state — well, two can play at that game, if it comes to that. Civilian remote-controlled and even autonomous devices have come a looooong way in recent years...

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Civilian remote-controlled and even autonomous devices

    Wahhabi/Salafis have been using them in The Stan/Iraq/Syria for decades. Mostly cobbled together from meat and ignorance in a back room somewhere. It’s way cheaper, apart from the time-lag in programming. And retrieving the resultant scrap isn’t worth risking your ass for, unlike a proper robot. Fire and forget.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Expletive Deleted

    This is also how the Chinese have taken over electronics manufacturing. Instead of robots that cost millions, you bring in a bunch of young women from the countryside and pay them on a daily basis - the upfront capital cost is next to nil. And they are easy to "reprogram" - you just tell them what to do.