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London has now experienced the ne plus ultra of Diverse Vibrancy: a drive-by funeral mass shooting, 0 dead 6 wounded.

The London funeral, near Regent Park about a mile from Mayfair, was for a Colombian mother and daughter. The daughter had been fighting leukemia, but gave up the struggle when her mother dropped dead at Heathrow on their return from a good-bye trip to Colombia.

Update: British Colombians, not a British Columbian like Terry Fox.

An iSteve reader comments:

He’s a hairy handed gent who ran amok in Kent
Lately he’s been overheard in Mayfair
You better stay away from him, he’ll drive-by your funeral, Jim!
Huh! His only law is Sailer’s!

For younger readers unfamiliar with 1970s references:

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For readers with more musical ability than me: is Warren Zevon’s piano riff a complete rip-off of Lynrd Skynrd’s S weet Home Alabama guitar riff or is it slightly modified? I’m guessing Zevon’s is borrowed but simplified, which is the opposite of the usual practice.

 
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  1. • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Dream

    One of the Twitter comments: "The Hinjews are coming!"

    That may catch on.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Pixo, @epebble

  2. Colombia, not Columbia. Unless they were from D.C. or BC. Which is possible too, I guess…

    Diversity is Our Strength.

    One day, the whole world will be so *diverse*, than London, Paris, Amsterdam, Colombia, Columbia, Cologne, will look *all the same*.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dumbo

    Thanks.

    , @Hannah Katz
    @Dumbo

    I bet the police picked up more than 6 casings at the scene. More like 60.

    , @personfellowindividual
    @Dumbo

    Welcome to planet America. Please remember to wear your ballistic protection.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Dumbo

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that's being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you're in America. When people talk about "escaping" this country for something "different," that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @The Anti-Gnostic

  3. @Dumbo
    Colombia, not Columbia. Unless they were from D.C. or BC. Which is possible too, I guess...

    Diversity is Our Strength.

    One day, the whole world will be so *diverse*, than London, Paris, Amsterdam, Colombia, Columbia, Cologne, will look *all the same*.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hannah Katz, @personfellowindividual, @JohnnyWalker123

    Thanks.

  4. It’s Regent’s Park, not Regent Park. Might as well get it right.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Graham

    Steve doesn't agree.

    , @old hispanic geezer
    @Graham

    Designed by John Nash as a pleasure garden, paid for by public funds, one of the few worthwhile suggestions by the then (degenerate) Regent, later George IV, the 18th Century's Harry . . .

  5. Start at 7:07

    It was a shotgunning–don’t count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of ‘Chicago S’ shooting.

    “All Summer Long” by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Sean

    No, watch all of it. Especially the description of shotgun users.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Sean


    ‘Chicago S’ shooting
     
    I think Mumbles there was trying to say "Chicagoesque" shooting.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Sean


    “All Summer Long” by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home
     
    More an overt homage to both songs, I thought. It was the first time I noticed the similarities between Werewolves of London and Sweet Home Alabama. I thought it was kind of cool the way KR slides one song into the other.
    , @John Johnson
    @Sean

    It was a shotgunning–don’t count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of ‘Chicago S’ shooting.

    No the rule still applies.

    Minorities are more likely to use the ammo that is readily available which in Britain means birdshot.

    A White criminal would know that it is easy to load your own shotgun ammo and that birdshot is a terrible choice for combat.

    But watch as we see more shotgun shootings and the British left will demand an end to what remains of gun ownership which is a break action shotgun after tons of paperwork and proof that you are going to be hunting.

    The British conservatives will huff and puff but will allow the change for the proles but will have an exemption for the upper class.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Sean


    “All Summer Long” by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home
     
    When Steve made the comparison in his original post, I too immediately thought of All Summer Long. The song has EIGHT credited song writers: the three who wrote Sweet Home Alabama, the three who wrote Werewolves of London, and Kid Rock and Uncle Kracker under their legal names.
  6. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    No, watch all of it. Especially the description of shotgun users.

  7. Let’s hope that the persons buried that day were quite dead too.

  8. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:

    Just what the HELL are Colombians doing in the UK anyway?

    Britain’s massive black African/Caribbean population, not to mention its vast subcontinental Indian population can be rationalized away by references to Empire and subsequent treaties.
    Similarly the teeming millions from continental Europe can be explained by former EU membership.

    But Colombians? There never was any treaty, colonisation or agreements. Supposedly, immigration from extra Commonwealth and non EU nations was *always* under the strictest control, since, at least the Aliens Act of the 1900s.

    • Replies: @Director95
    @Anonymous

    Are you joking? Nobody said she was Legal. That is soooo last century.

    , @prosa123
    @Anonymous

    As immigrants go, you could do a whole lot worse than Colombians. In the US at least, they are a bit better off than other Latin groups in terms of poverty and educational levels:

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/09/hardships-wealth-disparities-across-hispanic-groups.html

    https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/fact-sheet/u-s-hispanics-facts-on-colombian-origin-latinos/

    I can't find anything about crime, though given the above I would imagine their crime rate is below the Latin average.

    As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn't find statistics it should go without saying that they're a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don't cover their women up from head to toe .... undoubtedly quite the opposite.
    https://www.pinterest.com/amolatinacom/most-beautiful-colombian-women/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Not Raul

    , @Wokechoke
    @Anonymous

    Elite Panamanians and Columbians do live in London. I should know a relative of mine married one.

    , @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    The same sentiment was shared by WASPs toward Italians, Greeks, and Poles in the early 1900s in the U.S. But don’t fret, magic dirt has a funny way of equalizing things.

    Replies: @Anglomania

  9. For the answer to your musical question, listen to the Kid Rock hit “All Summer Long”.

  10. As for the riff, there are only so many things you can do with D, C, and G.

  11. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    “All Summer Long” isn’t really a rip off. It’s more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing “Sweet Home Alabama” all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it’s not like he’s trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger’s “Night Moves” as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it’s possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it’s so similar to SHA’s riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush’s “Machine Head”. It’s pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90’s that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @Sean
    @Mike Tre

    He was talking about those folks firing without looking and hoping a 3 year old was not hit. A six year old is in critical condition from the London shooting. There are so many cameras in London that they are as good as caught. Foreign hitmen get caught out that way a lot.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @Sean
    @Mike Tre


    Kid Rock actually mentions singing “Sweet Home Alabama” all night long within the lyrcis,
     
    Part of a strategy to ward off a lawsuit from Zevon by pointing out where he got it from perhaps?

    So it’s not like he’s trying to be sneaky about it.
     
    Sneaky can be good, if it is nicely done I would admire it.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush’s “Machine Head”. It’s pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit”
     
    Even worse is Bryan Adams's Summer Of '69 plagiarizing the much loved classic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dy2tuF915E

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Brutusale

    , @Feryl
    @Mike Tre

    There's a dude on YouTube who does joke covers of post-1992 songs in which he slightly modifies the verse and chorus melody to Smash Mouth's All Star and grafts it onto a different song. It's a commentary on how samey rock music has been since grunge went big.

    , @I. Racist
    @Mike Tre

    Of course, "Smells like teen spirit" has a riff borrowed from Boston's "More than a feeling" and the drum part owes a lot to The Gap Band. And so forth and so on.

    , @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    In my view the ultimate ripoff is Guns 'n' Roses stealing Sweet Child O' Mine" which strangely is not about an Irish baby. The victim was a band called Australian Crawl, also on Geffen Records and their song "Unpublished Critics". Fuck GNR. Kid Rock's thing was an homage and his current drummer is a negress so cool your jets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqreCG0htQ

    @Roland: If it's a suspension it's a 2, there's no such thing as a sus9. Terminology reflects function. B# and C? Same note, different functions.

    @Right_On: That's not Lynyrd Skynyrd (sp?) that's a cash-in tribute band led by the late singer's brother playing morbid faggot-level dress-up. He is buttmounting his brother's legacy. Eff that guy.

    @Pat Hannagan: I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term "interpolation" and this is not that.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Pat Hannagan

  12. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    ‘Chicago S’ shooting

    I think Mumbles there was trying to say “Chicagoesque” shooting.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Thanks: Rob
  13. Post a news link or at least twitter post, Sailer.

  14. Enjoy your violent schittskins! Pip, pip–jolly good!

    He’s a hairy handed gent who ran amok in Kent
    Lately he’s been overheard in Mayfair
    You better stay away from him, he’ll drive-by your funeral, Jim!
    Huh! His only law is Sailer’s!

    Sadly, the Trader Vic’s in London also mentioned in the song has just closed, after somewhere around 60 years. Great place, although TV’s didn’t call their pina coladas “pina coladas”, They were “Bahias”

    Lee Ho Fook’s on Gerrard Street is long gone, although it’s another Chinese place, so try your luck getting some beef chow mein.

    oooooo-WOOOOOOH “Schittskins in London!” LOL.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AceDeuce

    One of his later compilation albums' liner notes mentioned that it was a real restaurant but did not have that specific dish. However Chinese restaurants in the time of the boomers were solidly on the Mexican model: you could ask for any meat with any preparation, paying a slightly higher price as necessary. The non-resolution of this "secret menu" practice is the basis of the breakfast scene in Five Easy Pieces, because obviously some restaurants wanted standardized ordering to be able to track costs.

  15. The Skynyrd and ‘Werewolves’ riffs are both dominant-subdominant-tonic (V-IV-I) chord sequences. The ‘Werewolves’ riff gets its flavor from a 9th (or 2nd) tone suspension on each chord, while the Skynyrd riff is somewhat more elaborate, with arpeggios and single-note runs. The basic progression is common enough that it could be unfair to say that one is stolen from the other. Zevon said that he improvised ‘Werewolves’ as a joke in the studio, and was annoyed that it became his biggest hit.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Zorgnine
    @Roland

    To nitpick, while Zevon's riff is clearly V-IV-I, Skynyrd's is somewhat ambiguous as it could be V-IV-I in G but also sounds a lot like I-bVII-IV in D. Adam Neely has a video about the phenomenon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVPq_-oJV5U

  16. @Anonymous
    Just what the HELL are Colombians doing in the UK anyway?

    Britain's massive black African/Caribbean population, not to mention its vast subcontinental Indian population can be rationalized away by references to Empire and subsequent treaties.
    Similarly the teeming millions from continental Europe can be explained by former EU membership.

    But Colombians? There never was any treaty, colonisation or agreements. Supposedly, immigration from extra Commonwealth and non EU nations was *always* under the strictest control, since, at least the Aliens Act of the 1900s.

    Replies: @Director95, @prosa123, @Wokechoke, @Corvinus

    Are you joking? Nobody said she was Legal. That is soooo last century.

  17. It’s such a simple musical motive that it isn’t really correct to say anyone ripped off anyone else. Lots of stepwise descending scales in the history of music.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Melancholy Dane

    As usual, you dilletantes say nothing about rhythm.

  18. @Anonymous
    Just what the HELL are Colombians doing in the UK anyway?

    Britain's massive black African/Caribbean population, not to mention its vast subcontinental Indian population can be rationalized away by references to Empire and subsequent treaties.
    Similarly the teeming millions from continental Europe can be explained by former EU membership.

    But Colombians? There never was any treaty, colonisation or agreements. Supposedly, immigration from extra Commonwealth and non EU nations was *always* under the strictest control, since, at least the Aliens Act of the 1900s.

    Replies: @Director95, @prosa123, @Wokechoke, @Corvinus

    As immigrants go, you could do a whole lot worse than Colombians. In the US at least, they are a bit better off than other Latin groups in terms of poverty and educational levels:

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/09/hardships-wealth-disparities-across-hispanic-groups.html

    https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/fact-sheet/u-s-hispanics-facts-on-colombian-origin-latinos/

    I can’t find anything about crime, though given the above I would imagine their crime rate is below the Latin average.

    As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn’t find statistics it should go without saying that they’re a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don’t cover their women up from head to toe …. undoubtedly quite the opposite.
    https://www.pinterest.com/amolatinacom/most-beautiful-colombian-women/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @prosa123

    '...As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn’t find statistics it should go without saying that they’re a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don’t cover their women up from head to toe ….'

    And what's wrong with a few shootings at a funeral?

    , @Not Raul
    @prosa123

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    A lot of the Colombians I’ve met have been educated White doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc..

    One of my mother’s cousins used to be married to a Colombian consultant. Last I heard, he lived in London.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  19. Gun Jesus — AG Garland told us some garbage about rifle lengths and it’s time to get rid of the National Firearms Act barrel lengths on long guns.

    The simple truth is that short rifles and short shotguns were never a problem, and continue to not be a problem today. The 1934 National Firearms Act originally wanted to restrict handgun ownership, and the clauses relating to SBRs and SBSs were simply to close the loophole of a person cutting down a rifle or shotgun to get around a handgun prohibition. That handgun (effective) prohibition was removed before the legislation was passed, but the SBR/SBS parts were left in. And thus for 89 years we have has the ridiculous legal situation in which a handgun is fine, a long gun is fine, but something in between is prohibitively regulated.

    One major change to the NFA came in 1968, when the minimum legal barrel length for rifles was dropped form 18 inches to 16 inches. Why? Because the government had already sold a quarter million M1 Carbines – with illegally-short barrels – to private citizens, thus rendering them all felons. Instead of trying to enforce a clearly irrational law, Congress reduced the barrel length stipulation.

    With this issue once again coming to a head over pistol braces, it is time to finally solve the problem and end this nonsense. Short barreled rifles and short barreled shotguns (and AOWs) should be removed form the NFA entirely. Their regulation is a waste of law enforcement’s time and a massive bureaucratic burden on individual citizens, who are faced with felony convictions and 10 year prison sentences for utterly harmless actions.

    https://www.forgottenweapons.com/why-are-short-barreled-rifles-actually-regulated-in-the-us/

    So when will the useless allegedly Pro-Gun Republican Party move some legislation through the Congress and attach it to the next must-have-or-the-sky-will-fall legislation?

  20. @Dream
    https://twitter.com/echo_chamberz/status/1603953919180144640?t=C4srSIjNkUEukA1Mt1W6TQ&s=19

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    One of the Twitter comments: “The Hinjews are coming!”

    That may catch on.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Hypnotoad666

    '...One of the Twitter comments: “The Hinjews are coming!”'

    We need to suggest to at least one of the two that 'you and him should fight.'

    Won't happen -- but it would solve the problem.

    , @Pixo
    @Hypnotoad666

    Brahmins are at their mid-career demographic peak right now, the same way American Jews peaked in elite power around 1990-2000.

    Indian fertility is ultra-dysgenic in every single important way: religion, income, education, caste, region.

    https://www.opindia.com/2022/05/total-fertility-rate-in-india-declines-overall-here-is-how-education-wealth-tfr-religion-and-region-played-a-role-in-fertility-rate/amp/

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @HammerJack

    , @epebble
    @Hypnotoad666

    But based on intermarriage rates, it is the Chinjews who are coming.

  21. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    “All Summer Long” by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    More an overt homage to both songs, I thought. It was the first time I noticed the similarities between Werewolves of London and Sweet Home Alabama. I thought it was kind of cool the way KR slides one song into the other.

  22. @Dumbo
    Colombia, not Columbia. Unless they were from D.C. or BC. Which is possible too, I guess...

    Diversity is Our Strength.

    One day, the whole world will be so *diverse*, than London, Paris, Amsterdam, Colombia, Columbia, Cologne, will look *all the same*.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hannah Katz, @personfellowindividual, @JohnnyWalker123

    I bet the police picked up more than 6 casings at the scene. More like 60.

  23. @Dumbo
    Colombia, not Columbia. Unless they were from D.C. or BC. Which is possible too, I guess...

    Diversity is Our Strength.

    One day, the whole world will be so *diverse*, than London, Paris, Amsterdam, Colombia, Columbia, Cologne, will look *all the same*.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hannah Katz, @personfellowindividual, @JohnnyWalker123

    Welcome to planet America. Please remember to wear your ballistic protection.

  24. @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    He was talking about those folks firing without looking and hoping a 3 year old was not hit. A six year old is in critical condition from the London shooting. There are so many cameras in London that they are as good as caught. Foreign hitmen get caught out that way a lot.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    This reply isn't meant for me.

  25. Some Colombian drug cartel link apparently.

    They’re not sending us their best…

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Daniel Dravot

    The following communication intercepted, allegedly:

    “And I'm hiding in Honduras
    I'm a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    The shit has hit the fan”

  26. @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    Kid Rock actually mentions singing “Sweet Home Alabama” all night long within the lyrcis,

    Part of a strategy to ward off a lawsuit from Zevon by pointing out where he got it from perhaps?

    So it’s not like he’s trying to be sneaky about it.

    Sneaky can be good, if it is nicely done I would admire it.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush’s “Machine Head”. It’s pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit”

    Even worse is Bryan Adams’s Summer Of ’69 plagiarizing the much loved classic

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Sean

    Nah, dude, Mike's right. Rock's song was openly a nostalgia song with its references. Not trying to ward off any lawsuits.

    Lots of nostalgia songs out there, many became hits. For example, Eddie Money's "Take Me Home Tonight" openly referenced "Be My Baby" by the Ronettes so hard it actually had Ronnie Spector herself sing the refrain (netting Ms. Spector a nice little career resurgence).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJvIFK9-xk

    Or Eric Carmen in "Make Me Lose Control" referencing several oldies songs that he and his girlfriend are cruising/dancing/making love to: "Uptown", "Stand by Me" , "Back in My Arms Again" and, again, "Be My Baby" by The Ronettes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQlKa1IeZF8

    Neither Money, Carmen, or Rock were stealing.

    , @Brutusale
    @Sean

    Zevon's been dead for 20 years.

    I had wondered why he was such a tortured freak until I read that he, like show business whore Chelsea Handler, is the child of a Jewish father and a Mormon mother.

    Replies: @Curle

  27. @prosa123
    @Anonymous

    As immigrants go, you could do a whole lot worse than Colombians. In the US at least, they are a bit better off than other Latin groups in terms of poverty and educational levels:

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/09/hardships-wealth-disparities-across-hispanic-groups.html

    https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/fact-sheet/u-s-hispanics-facts-on-colombian-origin-latinos/

    I can't find anything about crime, though given the above I would imagine their crime rate is below the Latin average.

    As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn't find statistics it should go without saying that they're a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don't cover their women up from head to toe .... undoubtedly quite the opposite.
    https://www.pinterest.com/amolatinacom/most-beautiful-colombian-women/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Not Raul

    ‘…As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn’t find statistics it should go without saying that they’re a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don’t cover their women up from head to toe ….’

    And what’s wrong with a few shootings at a funeral?

  28. @Melancholy Dane
    It's such a simple musical motive that it isn't really correct to say anyone ripped off anyone else. Lots of stepwise descending scales in the history of music.

    Replies: @obwandiyag

    As usual, you dilletantes say nothing about rhythm.

  29. @Hypnotoad666
    @Dream

    One of the Twitter comments: "The Hinjews are coming!"

    That may catch on.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Pixo, @epebble

    ‘…One of the Twitter comments: “The Hinjews are coming!”’

    We need to suggest to at least one of the two that ‘you and him should fight.’

    Won’t happen — but it would solve the problem.

  30. @Hypnotoad666
    @Dream

    One of the Twitter comments: "The Hinjews are coming!"

    That may catch on.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Pixo, @epebble

    Brahmins are at their mid-career demographic peak right now, the same way American Jews peaked in elite power around 1990-2000.

    Indian fertility is ultra-dysgenic in every single important way: religion, income, education, caste, region.

    https://www.opindia.com/2022/05/total-fertility-rate-in-india-declines-overall-here-is-how-education-wealth-tfr-religion-and-region-played-a-role-in-fertility-rate/amp/

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Pixo

    I wonder if fertility is dysgenic in China. We know there's a sharp difference in the TFR between the affluent urban areas and deprived rural communities. Is fertility dysgenic in Chinese populations outside the mainland (in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Southeast Asia, Anglosphere)?

    I also wonder what, if any, cognitive difference exists between Orthodox and Secular Jews. Are there cognitive difference between Israeli Jews and American Jews? What about Jews in other parts of the world?

    These are important questions.

    Replies: @Pixo

    , @HammerJack
    @Pixo

    When it comes to subcontinentals, quantity has a quality all its own. Between the four countries they have over two billion people. Just exporting two or three percent would swamp just about any other country on earth. Especially the European ones.

    And that's exactly what's happening. Ride the Delhi to Chicago air shuttle some time, if you think you can stand it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEuuMLKF1Q

  31. @prosa123
    @Anonymous

    As immigrants go, you could do a whole lot worse than Colombians. In the US at least, they are a bit better off than other Latin groups in terms of poverty and educational levels:

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/09/hardships-wealth-disparities-across-hispanic-groups.html

    https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/fact-sheet/u-s-hispanics-facts-on-colombian-origin-latinos/

    I can't find anything about crime, though given the above I would imagine their crime rate is below the Latin average.

    As for the Colombians in Britain, while I couldn't find statistics it should go without saying that they're a MUCH better cultural fit than some of the other immigrants groups. For one thing, they don't cover their women up from head to toe .... undoubtedly quite the opposite.
    https://www.pinterest.com/amolatinacom/most-beautiful-colombian-women/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Not Raul

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    A lot of the Colombians I’ve met have been educated White doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc..

    One of my mother’s cousins used to be married to a Colombian consultant. Last I heard, he lived in London.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Not Raul

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    I have a vague recollection that there exists an international industry in which wealthy Colombians are greatly over represented. Can't recall what it is offhand. Perhaps some thing to do with steel making?

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  32. For readers with more musical ability than me: is Warren Zevon’s piano riff a complete rip-off of Lynrd Skynrd’s …

    I don’t know, and I don’t care, but I knew a girl who spent the night with Warren when he was on tour in Boulder. He made her bed in the morning.

    A true gentleman.

    • LOL: R.G. Camara, SafeNow
  33. @Sean
    @Mike Tre


    Kid Rock actually mentions singing “Sweet Home Alabama” all night long within the lyrcis,
     
    Part of a strategy to ward off a lawsuit from Zevon by pointing out where he got it from perhaps?

    So it’s not like he’s trying to be sneaky about it.
     
    Sneaky can be good, if it is nicely done I would admire it.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush’s “Machine Head”. It’s pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit”
     
    Even worse is Bryan Adams's Summer Of '69 plagiarizing the much loved classic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dy2tuF915E

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Brutusale

    Nah, dude, Mike’s right. Rock’s song was openly a nostalgia song with its references. Not trying to ward off any lawsuits.

    Lots of nostalgia songs out there, many became hits. For example, Eddie Money’s “Take Me Home Tonight” openly referenced “Be My Baby” by the Ronettes so hard it actually had Ronnie Spector herself sing the refrain (netting Ms. Spector a nice little career resurgence).

    Or Eric Carmen in “Make Me Lose Control” referencing several oldies songs that he and his girlfriend are cruising/dancing/making love to: “Uptown”, “Stand by Me” , “Back in My Arms Again” and, again, “Be My Baby” by The Ronettes.

    Neither Money, Carmen, or Rock were stealing.

  34. I thought the UK had banned guns! How did this happen? And in such a progressive city like London!

    Must’ve been some NRA members sneaking across the UK’s sacred borders! Off with their heads!

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @R.G. Camara

    Was it not a shotgun?

  35. @Sean
    @Mike Tre

    He was talking about those folks firing without looking and hoping a 3 year old was not hit. A six year old is in critical condition from the London shooting. There are so many cameras in London that they are as good as caught. Foreign hitmen get caught out that way a lot.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    This reply isn’t meant for me.

  36. @Hypnotoad666
    @Dream

    One of the Twitter comments: "The Hinjews are coming!"

    That may catch on.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Pixo, @epebble

    But based on intermarriage rates, it is the Chinjews who are coming.

  37. • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Did we just observe a "tell" in the averted gaze, the quaver of voice?

  38. @Anonymous
    Just what the HELL are Colombians doing in the UK anyway?

    Britain's massive black African/Caribbean population, not to mention its vast subcontinental Indian population can be rationalized away by references to Empire and subsequent treaties.
    Similarly the teeming millions from continental Europe can be explained by former EU membership.

    But Colombians? There never was any treaty, colonisation or agreements. Supposedly, immigration from extra Commonwealth and non EU nations was *always* under the strictest control, since, at least the Aliens Act of the 1900s.

    Replies: @Director95, @prosa123, @Wokechoke, @Corvinus

    Elite Panamanians and Columbians do live in London. I should know a relative of mine married one.

  39. Apparently the woman’s husband was a Colombian drug lord, though I don’t suppose that had anything to do with the shooting.

    Probably it was a case of mistaken identity and somebody thought she was connected to a member of the House of Lords.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11638079/Drive-funeral-shooting-links-Colombian-drug-trade.html

  40. @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    There’s a dude on YouTube who does joke covers of post-1992 songs in which he slightly modifies the verse and chorus melody to Smash Mouth’s All Star and grafts it onto a different song. It’s a commentary on how samey rock music has been since grunge went big.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  41. @Pixo
    @Hypnotoad666

    Brahmins are at their mid-career demographic peak right now, the same way American Jews peaked in elite power around 1990-2000.

    Indian fertility is ultra-dysgenic in every single important way: religion, income, education, caste, region.

    https://www.opindia.com/2022/05/total-fertility-rate-in-india-declines-overall-here-is-how-education-wealth-tfr-religion-and-region-played-a-role-in-fertility-rate/amp/

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @HammerJack

    I wonder if fertility is dysgenic in China. We know there’s a sharp difference in the TFR between the affluent urban areas and deprived rural communities. Is fertility dysgenic in Chinese populations outside the mainland (in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Southeast Asia, Anglosphere)?

    I also wonder what, if any, cognitive difference exists between Orthodox and Secular Jews. Are there cognitive difference between Israeli Jews and American Jews? What about Jews in other parts of the world?

    These are important questions.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Every large ethnic group and nation has dysgenic fertility right now, but the extent of it varies.

    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @bispora

  42. @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    Of course, “Smells like teen spirit” has a riff borrowed from Boston’s “More than a feeling” and the drum part owes a lot to The Gap Band. And so forth and so on.

  43. @Dumbo
    Colombia, not Columbia. Unless they were from D.C. or BC. Which is possible too, I guess...

    Diversity is Our Strength.

    One day, the whole world will be so *diverse*, than London, Paris, Amsterdam, Colombia, Columbia, Cologne, will look *all the same*.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hannah Katz, @personfellowindividual, @JohnnyWalker123

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that’s being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you’re in America. When people talk about “escaping” this country for something “different,” that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @JohnnyWalker123


    So is English becoming the language of international business
     
    It's been that way since WW2, and arguably back to the 1800s.

    While French and German vied with English in the 19th Century for the international language, English always had the slight edge due to the vastness of the British Empire and the economic and intellectual firepower of her former colony the United States. But after France was obliterated in 2 World Wars and Germany taken over and the Yanks emerged as one of 2 superpowers, French and German receded way further.

    Russian had a chance, but it was the language of communism, not business. And once the Cold War ended, Russian was gone.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Liger

    , @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    3, 2, 1, …

    https://youtu.be/Rr8ljRgcJNM

    , @HammerJack
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It has blown me away to see the primacy of English in places like towns in Mindanao, and villages in the Caucasus. Something real is being lost, and it may never return. People's cultural legacy. As an aside, it occurs to me that the cultural imperialism we're discussing will wokify the whole planet in time.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's the language of international maritime and aviation as well.

    https://i.imgur.com/C1dJVDL.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  44. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Dumbo

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that's being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you're in America. When people talk about "escaping" this country for something "different," that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @The Anti-Gnostic

    So is English becoming the language of international business

    It’s been that way since WW2, and arguably back to the 1800s.

    While French and German vied with English in the 19th Century for the international language, English always had the slight edge due to the vastness of the British Empire and the economic and intellectual firepower of her former colony the United States. But after France was obliterated in 2 World Wars and Germany taken over and the Yanks emerged as one of 2 superpowers, French and German receded way further.

    Russian had a chance, but it was the language of communism, not business. And once the Cold War ended, Russian was gone.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @R.G. Camara

    The rise of computers also aided the dominance of English. Almost all the work was done in the English speaking world, so all the software and manuals are in English.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Liger
    @R.G. Camara

    Jerome K. Jerome wrote about how back in the 19th century inability to speak English was more or less a non-negotiable barrier to entry for many service jobs on the continent. The reason being the simple inability (or unwillingness) of well-heeled English tourists to learn local languages.

    Replies: @Philip Neal

  45. According to the Beeb, “police have released details of a car… a black Toyota”. The Mail: “a 2019 model black Toyota”. Why?

    At one time in Britain, proof that a car was taxed, insured and roadworthy consisted of a small disc-shaped badge displayed on the windscreen. About ten years ago, a combination of cameras everywhere and software capable of reading the licence plates made the discs redundant and they were scrapped.

    Fake licence plates have not been abolished, but why on earth do the Fuzz want to be swamped with 10, 000 reports of black Toyotas? To eliminate 9999 of them and track down the 10, 000th to a hidden paint shop? Or can strong AI do things of which we have no conception?

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Philip Neal

    Fake licence plates have not been abolished, but why on earth do the Fuzz want to be swamped with 10, 000 reports of black Toyotas? To eliminate 9999 of them and track down the 10, 000th to a hidden paint shop? Or can strong AI do things of which we have no conception?

    In the investigation of the Idaho Massacre the police and FBI looked at the registration records of over 22,000 white Hyundai Elantras.

  46. Now we’ve got a new one in Houston at Club 33. 50 plus shots fired in drive-by, just a few hits.

  47. pop music is more enjoyable when you’re not trained.

    eventually you get a feel for how the sausage is made but if you really know:

  48. For readers with more musical ability than me: is Warren Zevon’s piano riff a complete rip-off of Lynrd Skynrd’s S weet Home Alabama guitar riff or is it slightly modified?

    The technical term is “interpolation”: https://www.billboard.com/media/lists/best-interpolations-9651682/

    It’s one of pop music’s most enjoyable parlor games, and one of its highest stakes: What old song does that new song sound like? Most often, such discussions are triggered by interpolations — sections of new songs that borrow melodic and sometimes lyrical elements from older songs, without sampling their original recordings.

    Apparently Kid Rock interpolated both “Werewolves Of London” and “Sweet Home Alabama”:

    Kid Rock, “All Summer Long” (2008) int. Warren Zevon, “Werewolves Of London” (1978) & Lynyrd Skynyrd (1974), “Sweet Home Alabama”

    Get Lifted: The Kid deftly weaves the feline-footed piano vamp of Zevon’s biggest hit with the hot riffs and sweet soul “ahh-ahh-ahh”s of the latter rocker — fondly name-checked in the chorus — in what is also essentially a breezier rewrite of fellow Michigander Bob Seger’s “Night Moves.”

    Why It Works: Signature sounds from two enduring, nostalgia-freighted ‘70s summer radio staples mashed up with Kid Rock in smokin’, swillin’ and chillin’ mode, jell into an enduring 21st-century cookout staple. (For those whose tastes run darker, though do listen to Zevon’s gothic 1980 deep cut “Play It All Night Long,” with its chorus of, “Sweet Home Alabama, play that dead band’s song” and distillation of “country living” to “sweat, piss, jizz and blood.”)

    Bigger Than Originals? “All Summer Long” crested at No. 23 on the Hot 100 in 2008, falling short of both the No. 8 peak of “Sweet Home Alabama” in 1974 and the No. 21 high of “Werewolves of London” in 1978. — FRANK DIGIACOMO

    Wait up, just read others have mentioned this one. Anyway, interpolation is a good term to remember and look up.

  49. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Pixo

    I wonder if fertility is dysgenic in China. We know there's a sharp difference in the TFR between the affluent urban areas and deprived rural communities. Is fertility dysgenic in Chinese populations outside the mainland (in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Southeast Asia, Anglosphere)?

    I also wonder what, if any, cognitive difference exists between Orthodox and Secular Jews. Are there cognitive difference between Israeli Jews and American Jews? What about Jews in other parts of the world?

    These are important questions.

    Replies: @Pixo

    Every large ethnic group and nation has dysgenic fertility right now, but the extent of it varies.

    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Pixo


    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

     

    Yes, I believe the data demonstrate this. With the rising cost of living & competition, I think White fertility might even become eugenic at some point. When this trend is combined with regression to the mean, I think the White population will be fine.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

     

    Latin America and India/South Asia too. I'm not sure if the immigrant populations demonstrate this same trend, but this is the situation in their homelands.

    Probably the same situation exists in South East Asia. Their ethnic Chinese have fewer kids than the indigenous peoples.


    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

     

    I actually think that East Asian male fertility is highly eugenic. Just because East Asians place a strong emphasis on not marrying and having children unless you're financially prepared. The problem is Asian females, who often won't "marry down." The other problem is that many East Asian men are now marrying foreign brides from Southeast Asia.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

     

    Yes, that's a major problem. In the long term, you might night need to get up to ~1.5 to have a good shot at maintaining your population's demographic integrity. There will also need to be substantial investments in automation/robotics, improving health span, enhancing human capital, and increasing worker productivity. More tribalism will be necessary too
    , @bispora
    @Pixo

    In Israel jewish TFR was 2.9 in 2020.

    Replies: @Ralph L

  50. @Philip Neal
    According to the Beeb, "police have released details of a car... a black Toyota". The Mail: "a 2019 model black Toyota". Why?

    At one time in Britain, proof that a car was taxed, insured and roadworthy consisted of a small disc-shaped badge displayed on the windscreen. About ten years ago, a combination of cameras everywhere and software capable of reading the licence plates made the discs redundant and they were scrapped.

    Fake licence plates have not been abolished, but why on earth do the Fuzz want to be swamped with 10, 000 reports of black Toyotas? To eliminate 9999 of them and track down the 10, 000th to a hidden paint shop? Or can strong AI do things of which we have no conception?

    Replies: @prosa123

    Fake licence plates have not been abolished, but why on earth do the Fuzz want to be swamped with 10, 000 reports of black Toyotas? To eliminate 9999 of them and track down the 10, 000th to a hidden paint shop? Or can strong AI do things of which we have no conception?

    In the investigation of the Idaho Massacre the police and FBI looked at the registration records of over 22,000 white Hyundai Elantras.

  51. A comment under the YouTube clip of Werewolves (fantastic song) says similarly: “This feels like the Halloween version of Sweet Home Alabama.”

    I can’t be the only naive youngster who assumed, back in the day, that “Lynyrd Skynyrd” must be the name of the lead singer. Here’s a clip which includes the obligatory Rebel flag . . .

  52. Is there another line in rock and roll history that can rival ” little old lady got mutilated late last night” for most delicious alliteration/mouth feel?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Nietzsche Guevara

    The whole song is three minutes of pure musical and lyrical joy.

  53. @Pixo
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Every large ethnic group and nation has dysgenic fertility right now, but the extent of it varies.

    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @bispora

    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

    Yes, I believe the data demonstrate this. With the rising cost of living & competition, I think White fertility might even become eugenic at some point. When this trend is combined with regression to the mean, I think the White population will be fine.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

    Latin America and India/South Asia too. I’m not sure if the immigrant populations demonstrate this same trend, but this is the situation in their homelands.

    Probably the same situation exists in South East Asia. Their ethnic Chinese have fewer kids than the indigenous peoples.

    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

    I actually think that East Asian male fertility is highly eugenic. Just because East Asians place a strong emphasis on not marrying and having children unless you’re financially prepared. The problem is Asian females, who often won’t “marry down.” The other problem is that many East Asian men are now marrying foreign brides from Southeast Asia.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

    Yes, that’s a major problem. In the long term, you might night need to get up to ~1.5 to have a good shot at maintaining your population’s demographic integrity. There will also need to be substantial investments in automation/robotics, improving health span, enhancing human capital, and increasing worker productivity. More tribalism will be necessary too

  54. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Dumbo

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that's being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you're in America. When people talk about "escaping" this country for something "different," that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @The Anti-Gnostic

    3, 2, 1, …

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  55. @R.G. Camara
    @JohnnyWalker123


    So is English becoming the language of international business
     
    It's been that way since WW2, and arguably back to the 1800s.

    While French and German vied with English in the 19th Century for the international language, English always had the slight edge due to the vastness of the British Empire and the economic and intellectual firepower of her former colony the United States. But after France was obliterated in 2 World Wars and Germany taken over and the Yanks emerged as one of 2 superpowers, French and German receded way further.

    Russian had a chance, but it was the language of communism, not business. And once the Cold War ended, Russian was gone.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Liger

    The rise of computers also aided the dominance of English. Almost all the work was done in the English speaking world, so all the software and manuals are in English.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Jim Don Bob

    It's for the best.



    https://i.ibb.co/MMQZHV8/greta1b.png

    https://i.ibb.co/frMx8w2/greta2.png

  56. @Pixo
    @Hypnotoad666

    Brahmins are at their mid-career demographic peak right now, the same way American Jews peaked in elite power around 1990-2000.

    Indian fertility is ultra-dysgenic in every single important way: religion, income, education, caste, region.

    https://www.opindia.com/2022/05/total-fertility-rate-in-india-declines-overall-here-is-how-education-wealth-tfr-religion-and-region-played-a-role-in-fertility-rate/amp/

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @HammerJack

    When it comes to subcontinentals, quantity has a quality all its own. Between the four countries they have over two billion people. Just exporting two or three percent would swamp just about any other country on earth. Especially the European ones.

    And that’s exactly what’s happening. Ride the Delhi to Chicago air shuttle some time, if you think you can stand it.

    [MORE]

  57. @Daniel Dravot
    Some Colombian drug cartel link apparently.

    They're not sending us their best...

    Replies: @Curle

    The following communication intercepted, allegedly:

    “And I’m hiding in Honduras
    I’m a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns, and money
    The shit has hit the fan”

    • Thanks: Gary in Gramercy
  58. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/zenoc_oshits/status/1613715674303692800

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    Did we just observe a “tell” in the averted gaze, the quaver of voice?

  59. @Not Raul
    @prosa123

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    A lot of the Colombians I’ve met have been educated White doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc..

    One of my mother’s cousins used to be married to a Colombian consultant. Last I heard, he lived in London.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    I have a vague recollection that there exists an international industry in which wealthy Colombians are greatly over represented. Can’t recall what it is offhand. Perhaps some thing to do with steel making?

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @kaganovitch

    Pharma Grande.

  60. @kaganovitch
    @Not Raul

    Given that the funeral was near Mayfair, the family might have been wealthy.

    I have a vague recollection that there exists an international industry in which wealthy Colombians are greatly over represented. Can't recall what it is offhand. Perhaps some thing to do with steel making?

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Pharma Grande.

  61. @AceDeuce
    Enjoy your violent schittskins! Pip, pip--jolly good!


    He’s a hairy handed gent who ran amok in Kent
    Lately he’s been overheard in Mayfair
    You better stay away from him, he’ll drive-by your funeral, Jim!
    Huh! His only law is Sailer’s!
     

     
    Sadly, the Trader Vic's in London also mentioned in the song has just closed, after somewhere around 60 years. Great place, although TV's didn't call their pina coladas "pina coladas", They were "Bahias"

    Lee Ho Fook's on Gerrard Street is long gone, although it's another Chinese place, so try your luck getting some beef chow mein.

    oooooo-WOOOOOOH "Schittskins in London!" LOL.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    One of his later compilation albums’ liner notes mentioned that it was a real restaurant but did not have that specific dish. However Chinese restaurants in the time of the boomers were solidly on the Mexican model: you could ask for any meat with any preparation, paying a slightly higher price as necessary. The non-resolution of this “secret menu” practice is the basis of the breakfast scene in Five Easy Pieces, because obviously some restaurants wanted standardized ordering to be able to track costs.

  62. Wow, yeah, just at a glance, with all the references here to riffs and melodies and rip-offs in POP, SHIT music, (which we all love) it seems, once again tiresomely, that yes, it’s pretty damned rare for anybody to come up with anything original.

    And, it is equally obvious that it is not necessary to do so in order to create new entertainment for the public.

    When all you have is a few notes and a few instruments, and a few beats, you know, it’s pretty unlikely that you will bang out anything truly new that isn’t at least constructed with building blocks somebody used before.

    Everything in our lives is built upon things that came before. Do you really expect music to be any different?

    You people are funny. You really are sometimes.

  63. @Roland
    The Skynyrd and 'Werewolves' riffs are both dominant-subdominant-tonic (V-IV-I) chord sequences. The 'Werewolves' riff gets its flavor from a 9th (or 2nd) tone suspension on each chord, while the Skynyrd riff is somewhat more elaborate, with arpeggios and single-note runs. The basic progression is common enough that it could be unfair to say that one is stolen from the other. Zevon said that he improvised 'Werewolves' as a joke in the studio, and was annoyed that it became his biggest hit.

    Replies: @Zorgnine

    To nitpick, while Zevon’s riff is clearly V-IV-I, Skynyrd’s is somewhat ambiguous as it could be V-IV-I in G but also sounds a lot like I-bVII-IV in D. Adam Neely has a video about the phenomenon:

  64. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Dumbo

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that's being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you're in America. When people talk about "escaping" this country for something "different," that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @The Anti-Gnostic

    It has blown me away to see the primacy of English in places like towns in Mindanao, and villages in the Caucasus. Something real is being lost, and it may never return. People’s cultural legacy. As an aside, it occurs to me that the cultural imperialism we’re discussing will wokify the whole planet in time.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @BB753
    @HammerJack

    Wokism is worse than the spread of English. It's weaponized toxic culture.

  65. The shooter shot at people’s feet and told them to dance.

  66. • Replies: @jinkforp
    @Reg Cæsar

    What were Pinedas' and Gomez's doing in Indiana?

    , @Liger
    @Reg Cæsar

    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  67. Warren Zevon was an interesting artist.
    Here he is singing about his untreatable lung cancer.
    He died 3 years later.

  68. @R.G. Camara
    @JohnnyWalker123


    So is English becoming the language of international business
     
    It's been that way since WW2, and arguably back to the 1800s.

    While French and German vied with English in the 19th Century for the international language, English always had the slight edge due to the vastness of the British Empire and the economic and intellectual firepower of her former colony the United States. But after France was obliterated in 2 World Wars and Germany taken over and the Yanks emerged as one of 2 superpowers, French and German receded way further.

    Russian had a chance, but it was the language of communism, not business. And once the Cold War ended, Russian was gone.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Liger

    Jerome K. Jerome wrote about how back in the 19th century inability to speak English was more or less a non-negotiable barrier to entry for many service jobs on the continent. The reason being the simple inability (or unwillingness) of well-heeled English tourists to learn local languages.

    • Replies: @Philip Neal
    @Liger

    Three Men on the Bummel?

    Such are the times that it is impolite to visit the continent these days. It is gross bad manners to speak English in a foreign country, but I am told that things have come to such a pass that even in France they respond to bad French in good English. Before the world went to the dogs, they made a pretence of not understanding you even when they did.

    Replies: @Liger

  69. @Reg Cæsar

    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Liger


    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.
     
    Must be Swedish or Norwegian, with the -sj-!

    I wonder if he's related to the Dicken-Bottum clan. You know, the "gentrifiers".

    Replies: @Liger

  70. I wouldn’t characterize the piano riff as a ripoff of sweet home Alabama. It’s got its own logic. It sounds similar because of the descending inversions, but that’s the obvious choice for this chord progression and it’s melodically and rhythmically distinct.

  71. @Pixo
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Every large ethnic group and nation has dysgenic fertility right now, but the extent of it varies.

    We nonhispanic US whites are only slightly dysgenic now, with male fertility actually eugenic but not enough to offset dysgenic female fertility.

    US Blacks, Africa and MENA are exceptionally dysgenic.

    NE Asia is probably closer to the US white situation: positive male selection slightly outweighed by negative female selection. With the giant Chinese and Korean male surplus and very expensive family formation, you probably end up with 1/3 of men not reproducing.

    The problem with white and NE fertility now is it’s low and falling very fast, not the slight dysgenic trend. China probably fell below 1.0 tfr in 2022, and S Korea/Taiwan/HK/Chinese Thais and Malays are well below 1.0.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @bispora

    In Israel jewish TFR was 2.9 in 2020.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @bispora

    Someone has to tell the 3+ billion future Africans what to do.

  72. @Graham
    It's Regent's Park, not Regent Park. Might as well get it right.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @old hispanic geezer

    Steve doesn’t agree.

  73. @Sean
    @Mike Tre


    Kid Rock actually mentions singing “Sweet Home Alabama” all night long within the lyrcis,
     
    Part of a strategy to ward off a lawsuit from Zevon by pointing out where he got it from perhaps?

    So it’s not like he’s trying to be sneaky about it.
     
    Sneaky can be good, if it is nicely done I would admire it.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush’s “Machine Head”. It’s pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit”
     
    Even worse is Bryan Adams's Summer Of '69 plagiarizing the much loved classic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dy2tuF915E

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Brutusale

    Zevon’s been dead for 20 years.

    I had wondered why he was such a tortured freak until I read that he, like show business whore Chelsea Handler, is the child of a Jewish father and a Mormon mother.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Brutusale

    Mormons think they are a lost tribe. Jos. Smith was a bank fraudster. Though they make a show of easy entry to the group their barriers to entry are eugenic. The Mormons copied a lot from the Jews.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  74. The London shooter used a shotgun IIRC.

  75. @R.G. Camara
    I thought the UK had banned guns! How did this happen? And in such a progressive city like London!

    Must've been some NRA members sneaking across the UK's sacred borders! Off with their heads!

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Was it not a shotgun?

  76. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Dumbo

    Back a few weeks ago, I had an interesting conversation with a well-traveled group of friends.

    Increasingly, much of the world (especially the Western world) is becoming like America Demographically, culturally, economically, aesthetically. Globalization is a factor. So is English becoming the language of international business. So is the near universal usage of social media, which has spread Americanization even into the remote villages of Romania.

    One friend mentioned that when he traveled through Western Europe, he found it remarkable how similar people (especially Euro Millennials & Zoomers) were to Americans. The more developed parts of Eastern Europe (like Poland) are trending in the same direction. Another friend mentioned that the affluent parts of Brazil, Argentina, and much of the rest of Latin America are becoming Americanized.

    The days of traveling overseas to see something different are over in the West. Even the non-Western world is become Americanized, to an extent. There are factors that insulate against Americanization (poverty, civil war, Islamic fundamentalism), but even those places have social media. Lack of English fluency was one an important insulating factor, but even that's being eroded by more people (especially trendy young influencer types) learning English and translation apps/sites.

    Increasingly, everywhere you go, you're in America. When people talk about "escaping" this country for something "different," that may not be possible anymore. Especially not if you want to stay in highly affluent & livable place.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @The Anti-Gnostic

    It’s the language of international maritime and aviation as well.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    The American bully in panel 4 is wearing the wrong religious symbol around his neck.

    "Every country in the world belongs to.... ?"

  77. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    @Sean

    "All Summer Long" isn't really a rip off. It's more of a tribute in medley form. Kid Rock actually mentions singing "Sweet Home Alabama" all night long within the lyrcis, complete with (presumably) fat negress back up singers. So it's not like he's trying to be sneaky about it.

    Further, the nostalgic nature of the lyrics I interpret as a tribute to Bob Seger's "Night Moves" as both Rock and Seger are from Michigan, and the themes are pretty much identical.

    And it's possible he used the main riff from Werewolves exactly because it's so similar to SHA's riff.

    A good example of a complete rip off is Bush's "Machine Head". It's pretty much the same music and structure as Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" There were a number of one hit wonders from the 90's that ripped off that style of 4 chord progression from Teen Spirit to give themselves a cheap hit.

    Replies: @Sean, @Sean, @Feryl, @I. Racist, @Anonymous

    In my view the ultimate ripoff is Guns ‘n’ Roses stealing Sweet Child O’ Mine” which strangely is not about an Irish baby. The victim was a band called Australian Crawl, also on Geffen Records and their song “Unpublished Critics”. Fuck GNR. Kid Rock’s thing was an homage and his current drummer is a negress so cool your jets.

    : If it’s a suspension it’s a 2, there’s no such thing as a sus9. Terminology reflects function. B# and C? Same note, different functions.

    @Right_On: That’s not Lynyrd Skynyrd (sp?) that’s a cash-in tribute band led by the late singer’s brother playing morbid faggot-level dress-up. He is buttmounting his brother’s legacy. Eff that guy.

    : I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term “interpolation” and this is not that.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Anonymous

    Rose cites a different inspiration, the same as Kid Rock. "I'm from Indiana, where Lynyrd Skynyrd are considered God to the point that you ended up saying, I hate this f---ing band!" he said. "And yet for 'Sweet Child' ... I went out and got some old Skynyrd tapes to make sure that we'd got that heartfelt feeling."

    Read More: Did Guns N' Roses Steal 'Sweet Child O' Mine' From An Obscure Australian Band? | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sweet-child-o-mine-australian-crawl/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

    , @Pat Hannagan
    @Anonymous

    I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term “interpolation” and this is not that.

    Cheers, mate, never heard of Slonimsky and, now I do, it won't help me at all unless he comes up as a clue in a crossword puzzle, or trivia night at the pub with both options highly unlikely.

    When it comes to maths I'm somewhat of a dumb 2868 but, being that I am somewhat addicted to listening to music and drinking copious amounts of alcohol and a belligerent 2868, let me assure you when I say this is a musical term, it is a musical term.

    For instance, did you know that Sting earns $2,000 per day (40 million over 25 years) for Diddy's interpolation of "Every Breath You Take" on "I'll Be Missing You" as well as for taking credit for Andy Summers' guitar which Diddy also sampled, along with the interpolation of Sting?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tudxOuHDA0E

    Here's a few examples of interpolation you may recognise:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OgMYLnF1GTs

    A masterclass in interpolation, 6 in one song:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zIFmFa4yRZ8

    Check out Blake Robin's channel for more. He writes some good music himself. Prost!

  78. @HammerJack
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It has blown me away to see the primacy of English in places like towns in Mindanao, and villages in the Caucasus. Something real is being lost, and it may never return. People's cultural legacy. As an aside, it occurs to me that the cultural imperialism we're discussing will wokify the whole planet in time.

    Replies: @BB753

    Wokism is worse than the spread of English. It’s weaponized toxic culture.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  79. @Nietzsche Guevara
    Is there another line in rock and roll history that can rival " little old lady got mutilated late last night" for most delicious alliteration/mouth feel?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The whole song is three minutes of pure musical and lyrical joy.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  80. @Liger
    @Reg Cæsar

    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.

    Must be Swedish or Norwegian, with the -sj-!

    I wonder if he’s related to the Dicken-Bottum clan. You know, the “gentrifiers”.

    • Replies: @Liger
    @Reg Cæsar

    We for benefit of those who haven't read the CNN piece, we should point out that the murderer's name is Sapirman. Dicken was the hero. The article you linked to linked to another CNN article that pictured Sapirman but not Dicken.

    With only the idiosyncratic first name to go by, I guessed Elisjsha Dicken must be a black American military veteran, but thought odd that there was no picture. According to Microsoft Bing, Dicken is as white as they come. Perhaps his parents are Christians who couldn't agree on their favorite Old Testsment prophet and just smooshed together the names of the two top contenders.

  81. @Jim Don Bob
    @R.G. Camara

    The rise of computers also aided the dominance of English. Almost all the work was done in the English speaking world, so all the software and manuals are in English.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    It’s for the best.

    [MORE]

  82. @bispora
    @Pixo

    In Israel jewish TFR was 2.9 in 2020.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    Someone has to tell the 3+ billion future Africans what to do.

  83. @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    In my view the ultimate ripoff is Guns 'n' Roses stealing Sweet Child O' Mine" which strangely is not about an Irish baby. The victim was a band called Australian Crawl, also on Geffen Records and their song "Unpublished Critics". Fuck GNR. Kid Rock's thing was an homage and his current drummer is a negress so cool your jets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqreCG0htQ

    @Roland: If it's a suspension it's a 2, there's no such thing as a sus9. Terminology reflects function. B# and C? Same note, different functions.

    @Right_On: That's not Lynyrd Skynyrd (sp?) that's a cash-in tribute band led by the late singer's brother playing morbid faggot-level dress-up. He is buttmounting his brother's legacy. Eff that guy.

    @Pat Hannagan: I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term "interpolation" and this is not that.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Pat Hannagan

    Rose cites a different inspiration, the same as Kid Rock. “I’m from Indiana, where Lynyrd Skynyrd are considered God to the point that you ended up saying, I hate this f—ing band!” he said. “And yet for ‘Sweet Child’ … I went out and got some old Skynyrd tapes to make sure that we’d got that heartfelt feeling.”

    Read More: Did Guns N’ Roses Steal ‘Sweet Child O’ Mine’ From An Obscure Australian Band? | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sweet-child-o-mine-australian-crawl/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

  84. @Brutusale
    @Sean

    Zevon's been dead for 20 years.

    I had wondered why he was such a tortured freak until I read that he, like show business whore Chelsea Handler, is the child of a Jewish father and a Mormon mother.

    Replies: @Curle

    Mormons think they are a lost tribe. Jos. Smith was a bank fraudster. Though they make a show of easy entry to the group their barriers to entry are eugenic. The Mormons copied a lot from the Jews.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Curle

    Mormons think they are a lost tribe. Jos. Smith was a bank fraudster. Though they make a show of easy entry to the group their barriers to entry are eugenic. The Mormons copied a lot from the Jews.

    They have high fertility rates but their barriers to entry are definitely not eugenic. They operate more like a mafia for gamma men.

    Their women are locked in and not allowed to date outsiders even if they are clearly better than the local mafia offerings.

    The most incompetent men get jobs through their Mormon connections. I have seen this first hand and the results are shocking. They will cover the work of the biggest boob in the group even if it means the company suffers. They are highly collectivist and have no problem with being unprincipled with outsiders if it means serving the group.

    The Mormons act like they are recruiting new men but take a close look at their requirements. No beer, no coffee and you are expected to cut off your non-Mormon friends. So men that are naturally social and good with women will usually find them to be unappealing. Intelligent Whites that are skeptical of Mormon claims are naturally excluded. Men that have strong Christian connections are also out. Who does that leave? Not many potential recruits and they don't care. Their numbers come from their high fertility.

    They only knock on your door because it is a requirement for becoming a Mormon. What they really want is to get their Mormon wife and not spend time knocking on the doors of heathens. I have a nice house and I always get resentful looks from them, especially in summer if I am in shorts and holding a beer. They don't like it when non-Mormons have nice things. They really do see themselves as God's favorites and believe they will rule over us in the afterlife. I see them at Walmart and they will treat the locals like dirt. I really don't care if they have high fertility rates. They are a divisive cult that supports splitting up families if one spouse loses the faith. They bring in an army of lawyers and find a new Mormon mommy or daddy for the kids.

  85. @Liger
    @R.G. Camara

    Jerome K. Jerome wrote about how back in the 19th century inability to speak English was more or less a non-negotiable barrier to entry for many service jobs on the continent. The reason being the simple inability (or unwillingness) of well-heeled English tourists to learn local languages.

    Replies: @Philip Neal

    Three Men on the Bummel?

    Such are the times that it is impolite to visit the continent these days. It is gross bad manners to speak English in a foreign country, but I am told that things have come to such a pass that even in France they respond to bad French in good English. Before the world went to the dogs, they made a pretence of not understanding you even when they did.

    • Replies: @Liger
    @Philip Neal

    Si, senor.

  86. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    It was a shotgunning–don’t count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of ‘Chicago S’ shooting.

    No the rule still applies.

    Minorities are more likely to use the ammo that is readily available which in Britain means birdshot.

    A White criminal would know that it is easy to load your own shotgun ammo and that birdshot is a terrible choice for combat.

    But watch as we see more shotgun shootings and the British left will demand an end to what remains of gun ownership which is a break action shotgun after tons of paperwork and proof that you are going to be hunting.

    The British conservatives will huff and puff but will allow the change for the proles but will have an exemption for the upper class.

  87. @Reg Cæsar
    @Liger


    No pictures of Elisjsha Dicken on CNN.
     
    Must be Swedish or Norwegian, with the -sj-!

    I wonder if he's related to the Dicken-Bottum clan. You know, the "gentrifiers".

    Replies: @Liger

    We for benefit of those who haven’t read the CNN piece, we should point out that the murderer’s name is Sapirman. Dicken was the hero. The article you linked to linked to another CNN article that pictured Sapirman but not Dicken.

    With only the idiosyncratic first name to go by, I guessed Elisjsha Dicken must be a black American military veteran, but thought odd that there was no picture. According to Microsoft Bing, Dicken is as white as they come. Perhaps his parents are Christians who couldn’t agree on their favorite Old Testsment prophet and just smooshed together the names of the two top contenders.

  88. @Curle
    @Brutusale

    Mormons think they are a lost tribe. Jos. Smith was a bank fraudster. Though they make a show of easy entry to the group their barriers to entry are eugenic. The Mormons copied a lot from the Jews.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Mormons think they are a lost tribe. Jos. Smith was a bank fraudster. Though they make a show of easy entry to the group their barriers to entry are eugenic. The Mormons copied a lot from the Jews.

    They have high fertility rates but their barriers to entry are definitely not eugenic. They operate more like a mafia for gamma men.

    Their women are locked in and not allowed to date outsiders even if they are clearly better than the local mafia offerings.

    The most incompetent men get jobs through their Mormon connections. I have seen this first hand and the results are shocking. They will cover the work of the biggest boob in the group even if it means the company suffers. They are highly collectivist and have no problem with being unprincipled with outsiders if it means serving the group.

    The Mormons act like they are recruiting new men but take a close look at their requirements. No beer, no coffee and you are expected to cut off your non-Mormon friends. So men that are naturally social and good with women will usually find them to be unappealing. Intelligent Whites that are skeptical of Mormon claims are naturally excluded. Men that have strong Christian connections are also out. Who does that leave? Not many potential recruits and they don’t care. Their numbers come from their high fertility.

    They only knock on your door because it is a requirement for becoming a Mormon. What they really want is to get their Mormon wife and not spend time knocking on the doors of heathens. I have a nice house and I always get resentful looks from them, especially in summer if I am in shorts and holding a beer. They don’t like it when non-Mormons have nice things. They really do see themselves as God’s favorites and believe they will rule over us in the afterlife. I see them at Walmart and they will treat the locals like dirt. I really don’t care if they have high fertility rates. They are a divisive cult that supports splitting up families if one spouse loses the faith. They bring in an army of lawyers and find a new Mormon mommy or daddy for the kids.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Thanks: Jonathan Mason
  89. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's the language of international maritime and aviation as well.

    https://i.imgur.com/C1dJVDL.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The American bully in panel 4 is wearing the wrong religious symbol around his neck.

    “Every country in the world belongs to…. ?”

  90. @Graham
    It's Regent's Park, not Regent Park. Might as well get it right.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat, @old hispanic geezer

    Designed by John Nash as a pleasure garden, paid for by public funds, one of the few worthwhile suggestions by the then (degenerate) Regent, later George IV, the 18th Century’s Harry . . .

  91. Review of Who Really Wrote The Book of Mormon. Long, but worth the effort. Author is descendant of one of the Mormon Church founders. Says the whole thing was a money making scam.

    http://www.truthandgrace.com/bookcowdrey.htm

    According to this study, The Book of Mormon is really a clever adaptation of an obscure, unpublished novel written during the War of 1812 by a down-and-out ex-preacher named Solomon Spalding, a Revolutionary War veteran and bankrupt land speculator who died at Amity, PA., in 1816 and lies buried in the churchyard there. Prior to his death, Spalding had complained to friends and relatives that a draft of his novel, “A Manuscript Found,” had been stolen from the shelves of Pittsburgh, PA., publisher R. & J. Patterson, by one Sidney Rigdon. This same Rigdon later became one of the three principal founders of the Mormon religious movement, joining Joseph Smith, Jr., and Smith’s cousin Oliver Cowdery, an itinerant book peddler and occasional printer of questionable background. Evidence indicates it all began as an elaborate get-rich-quick scheme which Smith himself referred to in 1829 as “the Gold-Bible business.”

    At the time of the alleged conspiracy, Smith and Cowdery lived in western New York. Rigdon resided in the Pittsburgh area until 1818, and then spent the next dozen years in various locations around western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio. It was Cowdery who eventually brought Rigdon and Smith together, and then later served as Smith’s personal scribe during the process of creating The Book of Mormon from Spalding’s manuscript. Co-author Wayne L. Cowdrey, an ex-Mormon, is Oliver Cowdery’s second cousin five generations removed, and has been privately accumulating research on his family’s involvement in Mormonism for more than three decades.

    • Thanks: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Curle

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The "public enemy" era in sparsely populated 1930's America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That's why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who's got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I'm just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    Replies: @jinkforp, @Curle, @Jonathan Mason, @Corvinus

    , @John Johnson
    @Curle

    I could look past the shady origins if I truly believed it was just a weird offshoot of Christianity like 7th day.

    But the gold standard of a cult is whether or not people can leave at will and without any problems in the community.

    For Mormonism the answer is no. You will be excommunicated if you leave and if you are married to an active Mormon then the church will prefer a divorce. Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?

    Replies: @Curle, @Jonathan Mason

  92. @Philip Neal
    @Liger

    Three Men on the Bummel?

    Such are the times that it is impolite to visit the continent these days. It is gross bad manners to speak English in a foreign country, but I am told that things have come to such a pass that even in France they respond to bad French in good English. Before the world went to the dogs, they made a pretence of not understanding you even when they did.

    Replies: @Liger

    Si, senor.

  93. It certainly appears Skynyrd was okay with it. I’m guessing it all generated additional royalties for them. Kid Rock gave the introduction when the band went into the Rock & Roll hall of Fame.

    Another interesting interpolation that really surprised me as I’d heard both songs a hundreds of times but never put them together until I stumbled upon this video.

  94. @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    In my view the ultimate ripoff is Guns 'n' Roses stealing Sweet Child O' Mine" which strangely is not about an Irish baby. The victim was a band called Australian Crawl, also on Geffen Records and their song "Unpublished Critics". Fuck GNR. Kid Rock's thing was an homage and his current drummer is a negress so cool your jets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqreCG0htQ

    @Roland: If it's a suspension it's a 2, there's no such thing as a sus9. Terminology reflects function. B# and C? Same note, different functions.

    @Right_On: That's not Lynyrd Skynyrd (sp?) that's a cash-in tribute band led by the late singer's brother playing morbid faggot-level dress-up. He is buttmounting his brother's legacy. Eff that guy.

    @Pat Hannagan: I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term "interpolation" and this is not that.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Pat Hannagan

    I think Slonimsky has prior claim to the term “interpolation” and this is not that.

    Cheers, mate, never heard of Slonimsky and, now I do, it won’t help me at all unless he comes up as a clue in a crossword puzzle, or trivia night at the pub with both options highly unlikely.

    When it comes to maths I’m somewhat of a dumb 2868 but, being that I am somewhat addicted to listening to music and drinking copious amounts of alcohol and a belligerent 2868, let me assure you when I say this is a musical term, it is a musical term.

    For instance, did you know that Sting earns $2,000 per day (40 million over 25 years) for Diddy’s interpolation of “Every Breath You Take” on “I’ll Be Missing You” as well as for taking credit for Andy Summers’ guitar which Diddy also sampled, along with the interpolation of Sting?

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tudxOuHDA0E

    Here’s a few examples of interpolation you may recognise:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OgMYLnF1GTs

    A masterclass in interpolation, 6 in one song:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zIFmFa4yRZ8

    Check out Blake Robin’s channel for more. He writes some good music himself. Prost!

  95. @Curle
    Review of Who Really Wrote The Book of Mormon. Long, but worth the effort. Author is descendant of one of the Mormon Church founders. Says the whole thing was a money making scam.

    http://www.truthandgrace.com/bookcowdrey.htm


    According to this study, The Book of Mormon is really a clever adaptation of an obscure, unpublished novel written during the War of 1812 by a down-and-out ex-preacher named Solomon Spalding, a Revolutionary War veteran and bankrupt land speculator who died at Amity, PA., in 1816 and lies buried in the churchyard there. Prior to his death, Spalding had complained to friends and relatives that a draft of his novel, "A Manuscript Found," had been stolen from the shelves of Pittsburgh, PA., publisher R. & J. Patterson, by one Sidney Rigdon. This same Rigdon later became one of the three principal founders of the Mormon religious movement, joining Joseph Smith, Jr., and Smith's cousin Oliver Cowdery, an itinerant book peddler and occasional printer of questionable background. Evidence indicates it all began as an elaborate get-rich-quick scheme which Smith himself referred to in 1829 as "the Gold-Bible business."

    At the time of the alleged conspiracy, Smith and Cowdery lived in western New York. Rigdon resided in the Pittsburgh area until 1818, and then spent the next dozen years in various locations around western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio. It was Cowdery who eventually brought Rigdon and Smith together, and then later served as Smith's personal scribe during the process of creating The Book of Mormon from Spalding's manuscript. Co-author Wayne L. Cowdrey, an ex-Mormon, is Oliver Cowdery's second cousin five generations removed, and has been privately accumulating research on his family's involvement in Mormonism for more than three decades.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @John Johnson

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The “public enemy” era in sparsely populated 1930’s America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That’s why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who’s got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I’m just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    • Replies: @jinkforp
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    There was a made-for-TV show about this, called "In Broad Daylight".

    , @Curle
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.”

    Yes it was. With a lot of strange religious and mystical movements starting up, most now gone with the exception of the Mormons and one or two others. I enjoyed Hawthorne’s Blithedale Romance for opening a door to the oddball social element in Antebellum life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blithedale_Romance

    It is my impression that a lot of odd social movements stay under the radar in spite of the seeming attention they receive from the media. I recall being surprised by the fellow in my college dorm who was participating in Werner Earhart’s EST cult in the ‘80s and was spouting all sorts of crazy stuff. There were the hippies, of course, who acted stupid but got a pass I suspect because the girls were willing to display their boobs. And then at twilight on a summer evening while jogging a trail near my state’s capital in the ‘90s I stumbled upon what appeared to witch ritual of some kind, cloaks, pentagram, candles, that sort of thing. I kept on running. I was told later that witches like to put spells on places of power.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.
     
    Very possible. Although that was a very intense religious revivalism movement in England in the 1840s. Even today you can recognize the grandfather clocks of that immediate era, because the faces were decorated with painted themes of religious fervor. It went that deep.

    It was also the decade of the Irish potato famine and the publication of the Communist manifesto.

    , @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Oh, you will applaud such a thing, but when push comes to shove, you’d chicken out if put on that situation. I get it. Living vicariously by shooting varmints and vibrants is your Saturday night bowling league. Drinks, spares, and musings.

  96. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Curle

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The "public enemy" era in sparsely populated 1930's America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That's why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who's got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I'm just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    Replies: @jinkforp, @Curle, @Jonathan Mason, @Corvinus

    There was a made-for-TV show about this, called “In Broad Daylight”.

  97. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Curle

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The "public enemy" era in sparsely populated 1930's America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That's why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who's got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I'm just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    Replies: @jinkforp, @Curle, @Jonathan Mason, @Corvinus

    “Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.”

    Yes it was. With a lot of strange religious and mystical movements starting up, most now gone with the exception of the Mormons and one or two others. I enjoyed Hawthorne’s Blithedale Romance for opening a door to the oddball social element in Antebellum life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blithedale_Romance

    It is my impression that a lot of odd social movements stay under the radar in spite of the seeming attention they receive from the media. I recall being surprised by the fellow in my college dorm who was participating in Werner Earhart’s EST cult in the ‘80s and was spouting all sorts of crazy stuff. There were the hippies, of course, who acted stupid but got a pass I suspect because the girls were willing to display their boobs. And then at twilight on a summer evening while jogging a trail near my state’s capital in the ‘90s I stumbled upon what appeared to witch ritual of some kind, cloaks, pentagram, candles, that sort of thing. I kept on running. I was told later that witches like to put spells on places of power.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle



    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.
     
    most now gone with the exception of the Mormons
     
    Champions of one of the "twin relics of barbarism" decried in the 1856 GOP platform. (And, no, I don't mean women's suffrage, though the LDS was way ahead of the other churches in pushing that.)

    Early America really was a barbaric place. One visiting Frenchman (!)-- not Tocqueville but a similar figure-- was horrified by the sexual mores he encountered on the frontier.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  98. 8 shot and 0 killed at an MLK event in Tampa. I am sure tips from “the community” will be coming in heavy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings is severely tested.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  99. @Barnard
    8 shot and 0 killed at an MLK event in Tampa. I am sure tips from "the community" will be coming in heavy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings is severely tested.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    What were the nationalities involved in that massacre in Tulare County, Goshen CA?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  100. @Curle
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.”

    Yes it was. With a lot of strange religious and mystical movements starting up, most now gone with the exception of the Mormons and one or two others. I enjoyed Hawthorne’s Blithedale Romance for opening a door to the oddball social element in Antebellum life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blithedale_Romance

    It is my impression that a lot of odd social movements stay under the radar in spite of the seeming attention they receive from the media. I recall being surprised by the fellow in my college dorm who was participating in Werner Earhart’s EST cult in the ‘80s and was spouting all sorts of crazy stuff. There were the hippies, of course, who acted stupid but got a pass I suspect because the girls were willing to display their boobs. And then at twilight on a summer evening while jogging a trail near my state’s capital in the ‘90s I stumbled upon what appeared to witch ritual of some kind, cloaks, pentagram, candles, that sort of thing. I kept on running. I was told later that witches like to put spells on places of power.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.

    most now gone with the exception of the Mormons

    Champions of one of the “twin relics of barbarism” decried in the 1856 GOP platform. (And, no, I don’t mean women’s suffrage, though the LDS was way ahead of the other churches in pushing that.)

    Early America really was a barbaric place. One visiting Frenchman (!)– not Tocqueville but a similar figure– was horrified by the sexual mores he encountered on the frontier.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Early America really was a barbaric place."

    Oh, bite your tongue. Those people did crazy things like build opera houses in the middle of the frozen prairie.

    Cliche (but quite real) sign common in frontier saloons: "Please do not shoot the piano player, he is doing his best."

    My response is, Wait, whaaat? You guys have pianos out here in the middle of nowhere? And saloons?

    It's sort of like finding a barbecue shack, a translation of Homer and a sauna on one of the moons of Jupiter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  101. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings is severely tested.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    What were the nationalities involved in that massacre in Tulare County, Goshen CA?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Well whatta ya know. It looks like the victims were mestizo/Meso-American drug dealers and their family members, so I'm going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that the shooters who put a well-placed round in each head were also mestizo/Meso-American drug dealers with families.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/california-killings-cartel-hit-goshen-b2263418.html?amp

    I bet at one time white people used to move their families to the rural Valley, on the rationale that all the natural conservatives who shoot babies in the head and dissolve the corpses of their victims in lye would stay in the cities.

  102. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle



    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place.
     
    most now gone with the exception of the Mormons
     
    Champions of one of the "twin relics of barbarism" decried in the 1856 GOP platform. (And, no, I don't mean women's suffrage, though the LDS was way ahead of the other churches in pushing that.)

    Early America really was a barbaric place. One visiting Frenchman (!)-- not Tocqueville but a similar figure-- was horrified by the sexual mores he encountered on the frontier.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Early America really was a barbaric place.”

    Oh, bite your tongue. Those people did crazy things like build opera houses in the middle of the frozen prairie.

    Cliche (but quite real) sign common in frontier saloons: “Please do not shoot the piano player, he is doing his best.”

    My response is, Wait, whaaat? You guys have pianos out here in the middle of nowhere? And saloons?

    It’s sort of like finding a barbecue shack, a translation of Homer and a sauna on one of the moons of Jupiter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Old time Americans (non-Puritans at least) were huge Shakespeare fans, moreso even than the English. The reason was the KJV which remained the standard bible in America long after it was discontinued from use in Britain.

    Of course, there's nothing strange or difficult about Shakespeare to someone familiar with the KJV. It's exactly the same language.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  103. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    What were the nationalities involved in that massacre in Tulare County, Goshen CA?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Well whatta ya know. It looks like the victims were mestizo/Meso-American drug dealers and their family members, so I’m going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that the shooters who put a well-placed round in each head were also mestizo/Meso-American drug dealers with families.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/california-killings-cartel-hit-goshen-b2263418.html?amp

    I bet at one time white people used to move their families to the rural Valley, on the rationale that all the natural conservatives who shoot babies in the head and dissolve the corpses of their victims in lye would stay in the cities.

  104. @Sean
    Start at 7:07

    https://youtu.be/DnAi2R3Iv8Y?t=427


    It was a shotgunning--don't count. Then again as the guy says above an aimed shotgun at distance shotgun produces the effect of 'Chicago S' shooting.

    "All Summer Long" by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mike Tre, @Almost Missouri, @Malcolm X-Lax, @John Johnson, @ScarletNumber

    “All Summer Long” by Kid Rock was an immeasurably cruder rip off of Werewolves that it was of Sweet Home

    When Steve made the comparison in his original post, I too immediately thought of All Summer Long. The song has EIGHT credited song writers: the three who wrote Sweet Home Alabama, the three who wrote Werewolves of London, and Kid Rock and Uncle Kracker under their legal names.

  105. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Curle

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The "public enemy" era in sparsely populated 1930's America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That's why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who's got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I'm just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    Replies: @jinkforp, @Curle, @Jonathan Mason, @Corvinus

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Very possible. Although that was a very intense religious revivalism movement in England in the 1840s. Even today you can recognize the grandfather clocks of that immediate era, because the faces were decorated with painted themes of religious fervor. It went that deep.

    It was also the decade of the Irish potato famine and the publication of the Communist manifesto.

  106. Anonymous[235] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Early America really was a barbaric place."

    Oh, bite your tongue. Those people did crazy things like build opera houses in the middle of the frozen prairie.

    Cliche (but quite real) sign common in frontier saloons: "Please do not shoot the piano player, he is doing his best."

    My response is, Wait, whaaat? You guys have pianos out here in the middle of nowhere? And saloons?

    It's sort of like finding a barbecue shack, a translation of Homer and a sauna on one of the moons of Jupiter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Old time Americans (non-Puritans at least) were huge Shakespeare fans, moreso even than the English. The reason was the KJV which remained the standard bible in America long after it was discontinued from use in Britain.

    Of course, there’s nothing strange or difficult about Shakespeare to someone familiar with the KJV. It’s exactly the same language.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Anonymous

    KJV Bible is the only one worthy of the name Bible. All the rest of the modern English versions are crap, although if one had to choose one, the Jerusalem Bible, which is a modern Catholic version, could be the best of a bad bunch.

  107. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Curle

    Antebellum America was a pretty strange place. I wonder if the religious fervor and crackpottery was a function of the geographic remove from the Old World religuous structures.

    Speaking of old, strange America, I watched The Highwaymen recently and enjoyed it very much. The "public enemy" era in sparsely populated 1930's America was pretty interesting. You could just commit violent robberies in a five-state loop, like Bonnie and Clyde did, and stay a step ahead of the judicial process. That's why it took an extra-judicial assassination in Louisiana to stop them.

    One of the last remnants of American extra-judicial vigilantism was the assassination of Ken McElroy in 1981. The townspeople met with the sheriff and asked what are we supposed to do about this sociopathic bully who's got the local judge in his back pocket. The sheriff said well boys do not get into a dangerous confrontation with him and you should form a neighborhood watch. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I'm just going to get in my cruiser and drive 10 miles out of town and do some, oh, maybe some birdwatching, yes. Birdwatching. McElroy was shot dead in his pickup truck a few hours later. Forty-six people around the truck and nobody saw a thing.

    Replies: @jinkforp, @Curle, @Jonathan Mason, @Corvinus

    Oh, you will applaud such a thing, but when push comes to shove, you’d chicken out if put on that situation. I get it. Living vicariously by shooting varmints and vibrants is your Saturday night bowling league. Drinks, spares, and musings.

  108. @Anonymous
    Just what the HELL are Colombians doing in the UK anyway?

    Britain's massive black African/Caribbean population, not to mention its vast subcontinental Indian population can be rationalized away by references to Empire and subsequent treaties.
    Similarly the teeming millions from continental Europe can be explained by former EU membership.

    But Colombians? There never was any treaty, colonisation or agreements. Supposedly, immigration from extra Commonwealth and non EU nations was *always* under the strictest control, since, at least the Aliens Act of the 1900s.

    Replies: @Director95, @prosa123, @Wokechoke, @Corvinus

    The same sentiment was shared by WASPs toward Italians, Greeks, and Poles in the early 1900s in the U.S. But don’t fret, magic dirt has a funny way of equalizing things.

    • Replies: @Anglomania
    @Corvinus

    A Polish man cleans your toilet, a Colombian kills another Colombian and you along with him. I have a feeling this magic dirt equalises nothing but misery.

  109. @Curle
    Review of Who Really Wrote The Book of Mormon. Long, but worth the effort. Author is descendant of one of the Mormon Church founders. Says the whole thing was a money making scam.

    http://www.truthandgrace.com/bookcowdrey.htm


    According to this study, The Book of Mormon is really a clever adaptation of an obscure, unpublished novel written during the War of 1812 by a down-and-out ex-preacher named Solomon Spalding, a Revolutionary War veteran and bankrupt land speculator who died at Amity, PA., in 1816 and lies buried in the churchyard there. Prior to his death, Spalding had complained to friends and relatives that a draft of his novel, "A Manuscript Found," had been stolen from the shelves of Pittsburgh, PA., publisher R. & J. Patterson, by one Sidney Rigdon. This same Rigdon later became one of the three principal founders of the Mormon religious movement, joining Joseph Smith, Jr., and Smith's cousin Oliver Cowdery, an itinerant book peddler and occasional printer of questionable background. Evidence indicates it all began as an elaborate get-rich-quick scheme which Smith himself referred to in 1829 as "the Gold-Bible business."

    At the time of the alleged conspiracy, Smith and Cowdery lived in western New York. Rigdon resided in the Pittsburgh area until 1818, and then spent the next dozen years in various locations around western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio. It was Cowdery who eventually brought Rigdon and Smith together, and then later served as Smith's personal scribe during the process of creating The Book of Mormon from Spalding's manuscript. Co-author Wayne L. Cowdrey, an ex-Mormon, is Oliver Cowdery's second cousin five generations removed, and has been privately accumulating research on his family's involvement in Mormonism for more than three decades.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @John Johnson

    I could look past the shady origins if I truly believed it was just a weird offshoot of Christianity like 7th day.

    But the gold standard of a cult is whether or not people can leave at will and without any problems in the community.

    For Mormonism the answer is no. You will be excommunicated if you leave and if you are married to an active Mormon then the church will prefer a divorce. Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?

    • Replies: @Curle
    @John Johnson

    “Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?”

    No.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @John Johnson


    Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?
     
    Yes. A lot of Protestant churches are money-making operations that depend on brainwashing adherents into "tithing" or donating a significant percentage of their earnings to the church. Hence high income members are particularly valued.

    It is entirely feasible that the church would prefer a member to divorce than for the church to lose the financial contributions of an affluent supporter.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  110. @John Johnson
    @Curle

    I could look past the shady origins if I truly believed it was just a weird offshoot of Christianity like 7th day.

    But the gold standard of a cult is whether or not people can leave at will and without any problems in the community.

    For Mormonism the answer is no. You will be excommunicated if you leave and if you are married to an active Mormon then the church will prefer a divorce. Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?

    Replies: @Curle, @Jonathan Mason

    “Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?”

    No.

  111. @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    The same sentiment was shared by WASPs toward Italians, Greeks, and Poles in the early 1900s in the U.S. But don’t fret, magic dirt has a funny way of equalizing things.

    Replies: @Anglomania

    A Polish man cleans your toilet, a Colombian kills another Colombian and you along with him. I have a feeling this magic dirt equalises nothing but misery.

  112. @John Johnson
    @Curle

    I could look past the shady origins if I truly believed it was just a weird offshoot of Christianity like 7th day.

    But the gold standard of a cult is whether or not people can leave at will and without any problems in the community.

    For Mormonism the answer is no. You will be excommunicated if you leave and if you are married to an active Mormon then the church will prefer a divorce. Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?

    Replies: @Curle, @Jonathan Mason

    Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?

    Yes. A lot of Protestant churches are money-making operations that depend on brainwashing adherents into “tithing” or donating a significant percentage of their earnings to the church. Hence high income members are particularly valued.

    It is entirely feasible that the church would prefer a member to divorce than for the church to lose the financial contributions of an affluent supporter.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes. A lot of Protestant churches are money-making operations that depend on brainwashing adherents into “tithing” or donating a significant percentage of their earnings to the church. Hence high income members are particularly valued.

    You've confused Herbert Armstrong's operation with common and garden protestant congregations.

  113. @Anonymous
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Old time Americans (non-Puritans at least) were huge Shakespeare fans, moreso even than the English. The reason was the KJV which remained the standard bible in America long after it was discontinued from use in Britain.

    Of course, there's nothing strange or difficult about Shakespeare to someone familiar with the KJV. It's exactly the same language.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    KJV Bible is the only one worthy of the name Bible. All the rest of the modern English versions are crap, although if one had to choose one, the Jerusalem Bible, which is a modern Catholic version, could be the best of a bad bunch.

  114. @Jonathan Mason
    @John Johnson


    Can you imagine a Christian church suggesting a divorce over leaving?
     
    Yes. A lot of Protestant churches are money-making operations that depend on brainwashing adherents into "tithing" or donating a significant percentage of their earnings to the church. Hence high income members are particularly valued.

    It is entirely feasible that the church would prefer a member to divorce than for the church to lose the financial contributions of an affluent supporter.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Yes. A lot of Protestant churches are money-making operations that depend on brainwashing adherents into “tithing” or donating a significant percentage of their earnings to the church. Hence high income members are particularly valued.

    You’ve confused Herbert Armstrong’s operation with common and garden protestant congregations.

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