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President Trump just made a strong move for peace on earth, and just in the nick of time. The Doomsday clock stands a few seconds to midnight. Russians, who previously sympathised with him, are already beginning to feel disappointed. They feel that Trump submitted to the demands of the Deep State when he bombed Iran and did not stop Netanyahu massacring Palestinians. As for the Ukraine, though Trump claimed “it’s Biden’s war”, he continued to support Kiev with money and weapons. When he arranged for the Alaska Summit with President Putin, people did not know what to think and what to expect. Many Russian opinion-makers warned that the US might seize their President and throw him into the deepest cell in Guantanamo, if he was not killed outright. Indeed, Brian Krassenstein, a well-known opposition figure, publicly called for Putin’s assassination. So did senator Lindsey Graham. Instead, Putin was welcomed with the red carpet and he travelled in Trump’s personal limo. In the course of the meeting, Trump expressed support for Putin: both sides should aim for a full peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine, instead of the temporary armistice demanded by Mr Zelensky and NATO.

Such a small difference in policy makes a huge difference on the world stage. The Party of War, led (as always) by Brits and Jews, had hoped to lead Russia into a lull of fighting, to allow NATO to rearm and beef-up their troops, and to start the next round of fighting with renewed strength. They do not care much for Ukrainians, who lost 1.7 million men (according to the most recent leak), but the Ukraine war was a Bonanza for the Party of War. Many billions of dollars were stolen by Mr Zelensky and his coterie; even more was stolen by US Democrats and the European Party of War, who used the Ukraine war as their laundromat. Russians allowed the West to cheat them in Minsk 1 and 2, and they were adamant to avoid a Minsk 3. Peace or war, that’s Russia’s choice, not another misleading cease-fire. The diplomatic achievements in Alaska moved the Doomsday clock back a few notches and restored Russians’ trust in Trump.

It is interesting that Trump cancelled the dinner that was planned with Putin. He also cancelled the dinner with Mr Zelensky after their quarrel in February of this year. It could be seen as a sign that meals on the US account are over. Or perhaps he decided not to expose Putin to the poison recommended by Krassenstein. Cutting the trip short was a good idea in any case – it calmed down many Russians, Chinese, and Iranians who were worried that Mr Putin might give away too much.

The Alaska Summit reserved its comedy relief moment for Washington DC, when all the European leaders came trailing after Mr Zelensky, seven unlikely Snow Whites to this one dwarf, commiserating and worrying about the prospects for their precious war. I was afraid they might convince the notoriously fickle Trump to embrace some silly notion like bringing Western troops into the Ukraine, or providing long-range missiles to this silly dwarf, something that even the very benevolent Mr Putin would be unable to swallow. Nothing is settled yet, but meanwhile it seems Mr Trump may yet pull the kicking Zelensky to the agreement table.

Russians are not over concerned with territories gained or lost. Being so big explains it all. They even sold Alaska to the US for peanuts. They are, however, worried about this newly-acquired anti-Russian attitude in the leadership of the Ukraine. Russians want to restore the right to use the Russian language in the Ukraine, which happens to be the native tongue for a majority of Ukrainians. They want to restore the churches of their traditional Orthodox church; to stop and revert the seizure of the churches by the new-fangled Ukraine Nationalist church, the OCU, established in 2019. This is important and urgent – Zelensky’s men are at this moment attempting to rob the most holy relics of the Russian saints from the ancient Kiev Laura. That’s why the Russians agreed so easily with the secession of the Ukraine in 1991 – they expected it to be a friendly neighbouring state, speaking Russian and praying the Russian way. But then the US spent billions of dollars to convince the Ukrainians to change it all.

That is amazing that human beings can be so easily convinced and re-directed. Everywhere. In the UK, there once was a very pro-peace Labour Party, and now it is some monstrous formation supporting war against Russia and celebrating Gaza massacres. All it took was removing Mr Corbyn for the fake offence of being anti-Semitic, and by purging the Party of all pro-Palestinian sentiment. The same process happened in Sweden, where the Green and Left Parties were turned into pro-Israel, pro-NATO, pro-war. It seems the Jewish/Palestinian question is instrumental in causing such great shifts. Bear in mind, the Swedish Jewish community is tiny, and British Jews were never particularly Zionist.

From my conversation with activists, I learned that in many countries there was a co-ordinated effort to influence and corrupt the parties; the right-wingers became pro-Israel, while left-wingers became pro-NATO and pro-war. I understand that something similar happened in the US, too.

ORDER IT NOW

In Russia, it was a bit different. Anti-Putin and pro-West opposition (mainly located abroad) became fanatically pro-Israel. You will retort that President Putin himself is quite friendly to the Jews and to Israel. True, but nothing like his opposition. Putin and Lavrov condemned the Gaza massacre unequivocally. But the opposition? Recently, a well-known Jewish lady writer Dina Roubina (or Rubina) said in an interview for the opposition on TV Dozhd that Israel has the right to defend herself, and that’s why all Palestinians of Gaza should be dissolved in acid baths, including babies and women, as there are no innocents in Gaza. And the whole Gaza strip should be converted into parking. Another of Russian self-exiled literati, Mr Makarevich, supported Dina Rubina.

Mr Ponomarev, ex-member of the Russian Parliament and an opposition leader in exile (operating out the Ukraine) published his strong support for Israel, as Israeli troops cleansed Gaza, killing thousands upon thousands of children, women and men. He also expressed his support for Israel’s assault on Iran, saying: “We express our full support for Israel in its difficult and just war. We admire the high professionalism of the Israeli security forces and the courage of their military personnel. Our hearts are filled with sympathy for the families and loved ones of the Israelis who have lost their lives. We believe in Israel’s success in combating the global threat of terrorism and support Israel’s actions as it takes responsibility for this work and its burden.”

Mr Ponomarev is the organiser of a terrorist unit called the Freedom of Russia Legion, which fights on behalf of the Kiev regime against the Russian army. He claimed credit for the terrorist murder of Dasha Dougina, a young journalist and daughter of Dr Dougin, the philosopher. He and his legion are devoted to Israel and the US.

One would think the Ukraine case is very dissimilar to the case of Palestine. Palestinians would love to be in the position of Ukrainians. Russia gives full rights to the Ukrainians, including Russian citizenship and its generous welfare system. Palestinians get nothing from their Israeli overlords – not citizenship, not freedom of movement, and definitely not equality. Russia may rule, but it will not discriminate against Ukrainians; meanwhile Israelis exterminate Palestinians without pretence. But still some supporters of the Palestinian cause attack the Russians, to get support from the Party of War.

Now we have to wait for the results – will Mr Zelensky agree to a peace settlement? It is not certain. He is totally beholden to the Party of War. He already said he won’t agree to making Russian an official language of Ukraine alongside Ukrainian. He would like a meeting with President Putin, if only to enlarge his stature. But Putin is wisely not keen to meet before the main questions are agreed upon. So the war will go on, as it was decided long ago. If the Ukrainian war comes to an end, the Party of War will be forced to start a new war in the Baltic Sea, or in Moldova, or indeed Venezuela. The world needs a Final Solution – stop wars! President Trump could try to enforce his decision on the rest of the unruly West. But will he?

Trump understands that the mainstream parties of Europe – both ruling and in opposition – are rotten, completely taken over by anti-national interests. That’s why he supports the populist parties, like the German AfD. They aren’t wonderful, but they will do, while the mainstream parties are spiritually dead. They try to self-cure a bit – in Germany far right AfD allied with leftist BSW (Sahra Wagenknecht’s party). This is a very positive shift. Our survival is on the stake, not the differences of less importance.

The mainstream parties of Europe proved they do not care for their voters. They agreed to the cabal agreement with the US, promising to pay 150 billion dollars for the US weapons for the Ukraine and for their own rearmament. No way these expenses can coexist with European system of welfare, rundown as it is. The Ukraine is a black hole, by promising to support it and its army Europe digs its own grave.

The mainstream parties of Europe claim Russia want to attack them. That’s how they explain their largesse. This is a bogus claim: Russia and the US at Alaska summit proved that Russia is not belligerent beyond guarding their interests. Russia does not seek war in Europe. But the mainstream media is supporting the mainstream parties in promoting the bogus Russian threat. Trump offers his support for alternative forces, like Orban of Hungary, and that may yet save our skins. The great power of the US in the hands of their President may yet offset the power of Deep State in Europe, if the European people will use this chance to get rid of their insane elites.

Still, the chances to escape a direct clash of giants are not too good. A Russian joke tells of two drivers facing police officer after a collision. One says: “I tried to pass him on the yellow light.” And the second retorted: “I am a driver with great experience, nobody can pass by me!” It seems that the Party of War has decided to make the world unliveable. And the Jews think it will provide them with their long-awaited Armageddon. But people may yet derail their schemes, if they take it to their heart, and remove old corrupt elites.

Edited by Paul Bennett

 
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  1. Notsofast says:

    British Jews were never particularly Zionist.

    tell that to lord rothschild.

    Mr Ponomarev is the organiser of a terrorist unit called the Freedom of Russia Legion, which fights on behalf of the Kiev regime against the Russian army. He claimed credit for the terrorist murder of Dasha Dougina, a young journalist and daughter of Dr Dougin, the philosopher. He and his legion are devoted to Israel and the US.

    this traitor needs the trotsky treatment.

  2. Franz says:

    Good article in the main.

    I just wish the bright Mr Shamir could see the obvious fact that Russia’s SMO would have been over a long time ago if they would have blown Zelensky up.

    The man is a disease. About the time Daria Dugina was killed, getting rid of the Z-man by any means should have been an obvious course of action.

  3. You are beyond delusional.

    • LOL: SassyPants
    • Replies: @Quinn
  4. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is cleaning house in America and everyone loves it. That’s the story. The ‘truthiness’ of the narrative is irrelevant. The power of the narrative is everything, and it is appealing to average folks around the world. In this way Trumpomania (kayfabe from first to last) is an effective antidote for the collective societal suicide of the West. Reagan pulled off the same magic in the 1980’s. We have an American Pope now, and the cards are stacked up to reproduce the Reagan Revolution, which was much larger than an American presidency. It shook the whole world, pushing us all far right. It spelled the end of unions and the beginning of America’s role as global policeman. American manufacturing disappeared with a Giant Sucking Sound.

    Trump is capable of reproducing all these great Reagan achievements one last time. Instead of imaginary Star Wars satellites we will produce an imaginary nuclear reactor on the Moon. It will be like old times, with everyone employed at some Cold War grift, everyone saluting the flag, and non-stop moral purges from Congress to the local PTA. We have already had Reagan’s immigration boom, and now we are waiting for Reagan’s Recession. A good stock market crash will relax the regulatory rules that constrain US manufacturing, and allow China to build more chip fabs here. When Reagan was in power, we all admired Japanese tourists and Japanese businessmen. Trump will be catering to China.

    Putin, like Trump, is tapping into that Reagan magic. He, however, is in a much stronger position with China. Rather than selling his people as telemarketers and line operators like Trump, Putin is in possession of commodities that China desperately needs and is very willing to pay for. One of these commodities is food, specifically Ukrainian agribusiness. Chinese high speed rail (paid for with the West’s legacy – “Our entire fortune plus a little bit more.”) will transport Russia’s natural wealth to feed the growing Chinese empire. Putin is in control of all the lines to the East, where the big building push is located.

    Globalist US corporations are currently getting preferential treatment in Ukraine, including John Deere’s GPS tractors, GE’s locomotives, and all kinds of state-of-the-art electrical infrastructure and communications. They are understandably worried that these contracts will dry up with the end of the war and are doing everything they can to keep the gravy train running. Putin could shut all this Cold War spending down with one wave of his hand. If Russia could do the job that America is doing in the Ukraine, he probably would. Instead, he plays the long game, as envisioned by MacKinder. Russia is pivoting to serve the East because the West is running out of time. The best we can hope for is one last Reagan Revolution. The next Obama will no doubt be the end of us.

  5. Few Americans know that since this war began, millions of Ukrainians have fled to Russia for safety.

  6. An American president can threaten Russia with sanctions and ultimatum, but can’t talk back to Netanyahu, and acts afraid of Jewish donors.

    Trumps walks and talks like a bitch who’s being leveraged.

    If he had any nuts, he’d give Bibi 24 hours to leave office, or Israel would be cut off from all contact with the U.S..

  7. A123 says: • Website

    Trump understands that the mainstream parties of Europe – both ruling and in opposition – are rotten, completely taken over by anti-national interests. That’s why he supports the populist parties, like the German AfD.

    Farage and Reform UK are critical. With first past the post elections, they could win the PM seat outright. Even a close miss would leave them as the formal opposition with a strong policy shadow cabinet.

    Supporting Fidesz in Hungary, PiS in Poland, etc. are also wise choices.

    Will AfD or RN breakthrough? Those national systems make progress very difficult.

    Now we have to wait for the results – will Mr Zelensky agree to a peace settlement? It is not certain. He is totally beholden to the Party of War. He already said he won’t agree to making Russian an official language of Ukraine alongside Ukrainian. He would like a meeting with President Putin, if only to enlarge his stature. But Putin is wisely not keen to meet before the main questions are agreed upon.

    It is clear that the Ukrainian people want a deal.

      

    Does Führer Zelensky represent Ukrainians? Or, Islamophile European leaders? Sadly it appears to be the latter.

    Putin wants a deal, but lacks a negotiation capable counterpart.
    ___

    Trump has mollified war hawks, notably Lindsey Graham, with words. In terms of actual legislation, Trump is winning. The BBB contained ZERO for Kiev aggression. The early read on the 2026 budget is also ZERO.

    The Europeans are on their own pushing to continue a losing fight. Germany, France, and the UK have to carry near 100% of the expense. Their economies are in terrible shape. How long before one or more these nations drop out?

    Can European leaders back away? Merz and Macron are too far in to balk now.

    Starmer could use a cabinet shuffle to escape, but Labour is not known for the intellectual prowess of its leadership choices. These are the people who voluntary chose Corbyn. They could easily go down with the Titanic while vlogging about the unfair whiteness of icebergs. === You Can’t Fix Stupid! ===

    PEACE 😇

  8. Looger says:

    Trump is the embodiment of the major split among Joooo power.

    Gilad Atzmon defined it as:

    1) finance liberal joooo / donor class / media / USA

    2) pro-israel super duper Zionist joooo

    Trump as a person used to be chummy with #1. He was a donor for the Clintons. Then he was approached by #2 and switched sides. From that moment on he was enemy #1 in the media because he turned on the other donors.

    Funny how he was “in the club” one day and a “fascist authoritarian” the next. That’s how reluctant the #1 jooos are to relinquish power to the #2 joooos.

    I wish so many Americans weren’t arguing with each other over which joooo side they’re on!

    Trump understands that the mainstream parties of Europe – both ruling and in opposition – are rotten, completely taken over by anti-national interests.

    Vox Day is right – The EU is an NGO.

  9. ebear says:

    “They even sold Alaska to the US for peanuts.”

    The result of war debts they couldn’t discharge incurred when fighting the British. Otherwise I doubt they would have parted with it.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  10. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:

    “Putin was welcomed with the red carpet and he traveled in Trump’s personal limo.”

    I thought Putin was concerned about being so close to Western politicians who could have been infected with a bio-weapon but also given a vaccination.

  11. ebear says:
    @Franz

    Z was elected on a peace platform. Whether he meant it or not is irrelevant since he’s not his own man and is controlled by ultra-nationalists who in turn answer to their western sponsors.

    • Thanks: Franz
    • Replies: @SassyPants
  12. The best place to get your daily news update – the streets of Cyprus.


    Video Link

    • Agree: Emslander
  13. …Trump expressed support for Putin: both sides should aim for a full peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine, instead of the temporary armistice…

    Since Trump had made such a big deal about demanding that Putin end the fighting, simply by agreeing to a cease-fire arrangement at the summit meeting, he basically made a fool of himself and lost any credibility he may have still had when he forfeited his leverage through the threatened imposition of sanctions. Having elevated the stature of a war criminal was already an act that should have entailed a reciprocal concession by Putin, yet Trump basically got nothing in return. He got played and snubbed. It makes sense that working out the terms for a comprehensive peace will take time, so that accepting a reversal of the normal sequence, of first agreeing to a cease fire to stop the killing, essentially guarantees that the war may continue for many more months. This is acknowledged by the following opinion:

    But Putin is wisely not keen to meet before the main questions are agreed upon. So the war will go on, as it was decided long ago.

    Though this is a tacit acknowledgement that Putin cares little or nothing about the lives of Russian soldiers – they are just cannon fodder sacrificing their lives for minor territorial gains – most people would not regard such a callous attitude as wise but insane. It shows that, like his friend Netanyahu, Putin is engaging in war primarily for the sake of prolonging his own political survival at the domestic level. This has been the case since the last day of February 2022, when it became clear that the primary objective, to stage a military coup in Kiev and thereby take over the entire country in a special operation, has to be aborted. That failure prompted the first implied threats of escalation through nuclear war. No other person in human history has ever been so vile to threaten a nuclear holocaust because of a foolish miscalculation.

    But the mainstream media is supporting the mainstream parties in promoting the bogus Russian threat.

    This statement is utterly hypocritical because the perennial Russian threat has been looming for the past few centuries, as validated by historical realities. Since March 2018, when Putin stated that he wished to reverse the breakup of the USSR if he had the chance, European neighbors in the Baltic regions have been threatened by the placement of nuclear-capable Iskander missiles in the occupied territory of Königsberg / Kaliningrad, named after a top Bolshevik and ally to Stalin. Notwithstanding all the hysterical howling about the alleged – completely bogus – threat by NATO expansion, none of the western politicians or media have threatened to invade Russia, and no nuclear missiles have been stationed in any of the countries that have joined NATO since the USSR ceased to exist.

    • Disagree: Disinfected
    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @Rogue
  14. Ruckus says:

    “The Party of War, led (as always) by Brits and Jews”

    It’s those $%^&! Welsh. Every. Single. Time.

  15. Former Vice Chancellor of Punjab University, Dr. Syed Mujahid Kamran, noted in his 2015 book “The International Bankers, World Wars I, II, and Beyond” https://www.mujahidkamran.com/books.php?id=17 that the banks which engineered World War One starting as early as 1875, identified their profit as $10,000 per dead soldier.

    “10,000 in 1919 is equivalent to approximately $186,732.95 today when adjusted for inflation. This calculation reflects an average inflation rate of about 2.80% per year”.

    Hence, the U.K., French and German economies can continue to function in a condition of ruin, as long as their banks get profits from their armaments industries, paid for by their taxpayers.

    From a recent article, The Oreshnik (Hazelnut Tree) Missile Makes Nukes Obsolete. Poisoning the World with Nukes Always Made Them a Terror Weapon. The Terror Will Now Escape Containment.

    https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4336236/posts

    • Replies: @Emslander
  16. Dr. Acula says:

    This article misses the main point: that the involved parties have fundamentally opposing views:

    Russia does not want Ukraine in NATO. They want to create a new security architecture for the continent which involves the question about NATO troops, weapons and intelligence in the Baltics and Romania. They want the 4 annexed oblasts and the remainder of Ukraine to be neutral. Their biggest wish would be to get Odessa to cut Ukraine off from the Black Sea and thus to stop any threat from this rumpstate to their Black Sea fleet.

    What Ukraine wants is not clear to me. I guess the population wants peace but that does not really matter. Ukraine is like all other countries regarding this matter. Zelensky says he does not accept any territorial losses, but how delusional can he be? This is not a serious position. This is as if Putin would demand NATO to be abolished.

    The US wants the war to end and force Europe to take their security into their own hands so that the US can pivot to confront China. Regarding Ukraine, they are ready to let Russia have the 4 oblasts but they will not accept that Russia rolls back NATO or tells them where to put weapon systems. Remember that in this very moment the biggest NATO center is being built in Romania. This is why the Romanian election was rapidly overthrown after a pro-Russian guy was elected. The US wants to preserve the option to checkmate the Russian fleet from a shithole country like Ukraine.

    So to summarize for Russia the war is a symptom of a much larger problem: Russia’s role in Europe and the world. For the USA the war itself is the problem because it prevents the US from shifting its focus to Asia while China grows stronger. It wants to conserve the status quo: the very thing Russia fights a bloody and costly war to change.

    How do you square this circle? This is the real question. Not some ghibberish about the war party or the British. And please stop pretending that Trump is some kind of outsider, acting insulated from the regime/ war party/ whatever you want to call it. He is the regime pick just like Hillary was in 2016 and Biden in 2020. He became another Republican: lowering taxes for corporations while refusing to deport millions, refusing to end the foreign involvement, domestic spying, not to speak of the Jewish fifth column. Pretending that Trump fights the deep state in heroic manner is just embarassing at this point. Every article/ argument starting from this false premise will end in a wrong conclusion.

  17. Alita999 says:

    Swallow your self, Is.
    Thank you kindly, Sham.
    Rael peace ✌️ mir man.

  18. Tom Welsh says:

    “The Party of War, led (as always) by Brits and Jews…”

    Right agents, but wrong order. The anti-Russian sentiment of the British ruling class may have some emotional element; but the great majority of UK citizens are led by the nose by the media. And we know who controls the media and sets the agenda.

    Above all, there is absolutely no rational British interest in opposing Russia, let alone seeking to harm it. If anything, the two nations would be natural friends and partners.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Thomasina
  19. They do not care much for Ukrainians, who lost 1.7 million men (according to the most recent leak)

    You mean according to anonymous Russian hackers.

    Only slight problem with that claim is that Ukraine started with less than 1 million men
    https://www.forcesnews.com/news/numbers-how-does-ukraines-military-stack-against-russias

    Russians are not over concerned with territories gained or lost.

    Oh ok that must be why Putin offered to walk with territory. Or did you miss that?

    Mr Ponomarev is the organiser of a terrorist unit called the Freedom of Russia Legion, which fights on behalf of the Kiev regime against the Russian army. He claimed credit for the terrorist murder of Dasha Dougina

    That’s false. He cited the organization but didn’t claim credit.
    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/23/our-task-is-to-finish-off-putin

    So you got that wrong as well.

    Russia gives full rights to the Ukrainians, including Russian citizenship and its generous welfare system.

    What would those rights be exactly? Definitely not being able to criticize the government.

    Former DPR leader Igor Girkin is in prison for simply stating in a blog post that Putin is lousy at war.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/25/russia-jails-nationalist-critic-igor-girkin-for-four-years-over-extremism

    Which means a former Putin loyalist who betrayed Ukraine is in prison for expressing an opinion.

    Putin is the totalitarian ruler of Russia and there are no individual rights.

    You really shouldn’t bother bootlicking for Putin. You aren’t very good at it. Pepe is much better. He wouldn’t make the mistake of talking about individual rights.

    Let’s see who is bootlicking for Putin:
    Shamir says that he was born in a Jewish family in Russia, and converted to Orthodox Christianity.[4][10][12][13] By his own account, his birth name was Izrail Schmerler.[10][14] Shamir says that he was born in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in 1947, although the Shorter Jewish Encyclopedia says that a man called Schmerler was born in 1948.[14]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Shamir

    A Jewish Russian. Well you will be popular here.

    • LOL: Disinfected
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    , @Rogue
  20. Tom Welsh says:

    “Russians are not over concerned with territories gained or lost. Being so big explains it all. They even sold Alaska to the US for peanuts”.

    Sorry to rain on your parade, but the sale of Alaska was more or less forced. It was a question of whether to take the money offered, or see the USA simply steal Alaska in return for nothing. In 1867 the USA was at a peak of military and naval power and confidence. Having defeated the CSA after a long, grinding war of attrition, Northerners were keen for further conquests and the armed forces were champing at the bit. In the event, as Russia peacefully surrendered Alaska, they were left with nobody on whom to take out their bloodthirsty fury but the Native Americans – and how!

    Had war ensued, it would have been difficult for both sides; but the USA would have had a decided advantage. The Russo-Japanese War nearly 40 years later clearly demonstrated the huge disadvantage Russia was at in defending its Far East provinces, and the USA was far more powerful.

    • Disagree: Emslander
  21. Tom Welsh says:

    “The world needs a Final Solution – stop wars!”

    Now that sentence inflicts cognitive dissonance. Bringing in the notorious expression “Final Solution” implies unlimited violence and murder. But more generally, there can be no way of ending war until the majority – perhaps the great majority – of human beings everywhere regard war as intolerable. Not in the sense of, “I find the taste of Marmite disagreeable”, but as in “I really do not want my limbs to be torn off one by one”.

    It seems incredible to a thinking person – even, I think, a 5-year-old child – that so much time and effort has been wasted on “systems” to prevent war. It’s utterly obvious to anyone with the slightest grasp of simple logic that if one party resorts to violence they cannot be stopped except by more effective violence. (Note that I do not say “greater violence”; a world war might, in principle, be stopped by assassinating a single leader). Elaborate constructs like the League of Nations and the United Nations cannot deliver peace, because when even one powerful nation resorts to war the others have no choice but to fight back or submit. I assume that this is perfectly obvious to the youngest Russian child. And after recovering from thew Century of Humiliation, to every Chinese person too. That is why both nations are now armed to the teeth and too formidable to attack, even though they have no aggressive plans at all.

    I have written about this at some length, e.g. https://tomwelsh441836.substack.com/p/the-melian-dialogue.

    • Agree: Agent76, Kingsmeg
    • Replies: @Johan
  22. the Swedish Jewish community is tiny

    Bear in mind that Barbara Lerner Spectre wasn’t Swedish. This Jewish, and presumably zionist, former American went to israel before working to change Europe.

  23. @Franz

    Mr Putin is a legalist, such terrorist actions are completely banned in his book.

  24. Ace says:

    Why are the German populist parties not “wonderful”? Whence cometh this requirement of perfection?

    Consider the wisdom of the saying “the best is the enemy of the good.” When the ruling parties are, as you say, rotten that requires that patriots stand behind other patriots, especially when they have to swim upstream against the dishonesty and viciousness of the traitor class.

  25. @Notsofast

    Shamir is right about the British Jews not being overly Zionist,
    and in fact more Israeli Jews have migrated to the UK than
    UK Jews have gone to Israel.

    The largest migration to Israel came from Russia, the Ukraine
    and other Eastern European countries, followed by the Muslim
    nations. This is according to the Institute for
    Jewish Policy Research.

    The Rothschild family was instrumental in founding and
    financing Israel, but they have many reasons for staying
    in England and France, and would not feel comfortable
    dwelling among the common folk.

    • Agree: israel shamir
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Zumbuddi
  26. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Acula

    How do you square this circle? This is the real question.

    It is.

    Perhaps by the way the Managerial State does the best: kick the problem down the road, hoping, no, believing, that, somehow, it will get resolved later/down the line.

    The same method as with most problems facing the modern society.

    • Replies: @tamberlint
  27. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Until level headed non-Jews grow a spine and grapple with the JEWISH PROBLEM, the Jews of Satan (99%) will continue to drive the world to Anti-Christ & Domination.

    Shamir tries to pretend it ain’t Jews doing it completely.

    It’s the JEWS stupid, in all ways.

  28. Anon[265] • Disclaimer says:

    Donald Trump is known to be a pedophile himself, being mentored by his gay pedophile mentor Roy Cohn, who he highly admired. Now Trump is actively covering elite pedophiles that he promised to expose and investigate for years.

    Its sick how people are now lining up for the pedophile Donald Trump, seeing him as some kind of a “hero”. Is this how low people are these days? Hes a child rapist, a terrorist, a mass murderer and a drug mafioso.

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    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  29. ANON[425] • Disclaimer says:

    The suggestion that:

    “Trump offers his support for alternative forces, like Orban of Hungary, and that may yet save our skins.”

    Yet Orban recently invited Netanyahu to Hungary even after the ICC arrest warrant was issued and said or objected to nothing about the GAZA Genocide

    Plus one of the most despised people in Hungary have been Jews (for a good reason) and he seemed to ignore the sentiment of Hungarians

    Seem the writer is clutching at straws

  30. @Dr. Acula

    How do you square this circle? This is the real question. Not some ghibberish about the war party or the British.

    I don’t know where this idiotic idea comes from, that “the British” or “the European deep state” are running the show, but it seems to be prevalent within the Q-tard/MAGA community. I have seen a number of people parroting this line.

    • Replies: @Quinn
    , @peterAUS
  31. @Tom Welsh

    …the sale of Alaska was more or less forced. It was a question of whether to take the money offered, or see the USA simply steal Alaska in return for nothing.

    Oh how clever you surely think you are for attempting to spread the seed of a future controversy and dispute by concocting your stupid insinuation that Russia deserves to get back Alaska because it was somehow being forced to relinquish it by the United States, hence supposedly an unfair treaty. Even if this were true, it would be highly disingenuous, because just look at the reason Putin is continuing the war against Ukraine. However, the historical facts are clear. For Russia, Alaska was a huge liability because the fur trade was declining, from overhunting, market saturation, so the burden of defending this territory from its main rival Britain, which controlled Canada, did not make sense because of its remote location.

    Moreover, Russia needed money due to the accumulating debts from having conducted the Crimean war a decade earlier, motivated by its expansionist attempts, but in which it ultimately suffered a humiliating defeat against Britain, France, and the Ottoman Empire. The Treaty of Paris (1856) stipulated that Russia had to dismantle the Crimean port of Sevastopol, return the Moldavian region at the mouth of the Danube river, and guarantee the territorial integrity of the Ottoman Empire. Receiving needed funding from the United States to service Russia’s war debt while ensuring that its future ownership of Alaska would serve as a buffer between its rival Britain was certainly considered a great deal by Russia at the time.

    Yet in light of the facts you come along here with such total nonsense, intending to prey on and mislead the many gullible readers who are eager to believe your ridiculous fabrications to feed their hatred. We can be sure that you are not Welsh, as your deceptively chosen handle might suggest. It must surely have been one of Putin’s primary motivations, when launching the war against Ukraine, to eventually also reclaim the territory of the mouth of the Danube by taking over the Ukrainian region south of Odessa, along with Moldova and parts of Romania, to undo the consequences of the war one-and-a-half centuries ago.

  32. Jose says:
    @Anon

    “Trump is cleaning house in America and everyone loves it.”

    Au contraire.

    • Agree: Flo
  33. @ProsecuteGenocide

    I’m sure Trump’s nuts are why he would never do this.

  34. @ebear

    Interesting. If you switch the name Zelensky with Trump and western to Jewish, it still makes perfect sense.

  35. @Carlton Meyer

    For the record, Ukraine had a population of 43.6m before 2022. ( World Bank ) However, 6.1 million were in Russian-controlled Crimea and Donbas. Another 3 million were living and working abroad. 4 million have since been incorporated into Russia in what was southern Ukraine since February 2022.

    The UNHCR gave Refugee figures at 8.3 million as recently as the end of 2023, although others think the real figure is 10 or 12 million. Of the 8.3 million, 2.8 million had fled to Russia. The figure is now down to 1.2 million. Presumably, the 1.6 million are no longer classified as refugees: indeed, many may be Russian citizens by now.

    So, yes, you are right in this instance.

  36. @Been_there_done_that

    Oh how clever you surely think you are for attempting to spread the seed of a future controversy and dispute by concocting your stupid insinuation that Russia deserves to get back Alaska because it was somehow being forced to relinquish it by the United States, hence supposedly an unfair treaty.

    I suppose there is good reasons for you to be worried about that!

    The Russians are really Europeans. If even they deserve to get back Alaska, how much more so do the feather-Indians to get back the North American continent?!!!

    Let us wait and see. The rest of the world aren’t stupid!

  37. Nihilist says:

    The author is absolutely delusional, and this article is a pile of shit.

    Please, update yourself, boomer.

    Trump Laments Stalled Ukraine Peace Talks While Simultaneously Urging New Attacks On Russia

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-laments-stalled-ukraine-peace-while-simultaneously-urging-new-attacks-russia

  38. Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy . . .

  39. Emslander says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Thank you for putting every stupid thought imaginable about Russia, Ukraine and Putin all in one place. Very convenient.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Thanks: Badger Down
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  40. Emslander says:
    @charlesoconnell

    Thank you for reminding me of the first of the WWW’s human gathering space, The Free Republic. Good to know that Freepers still exist.

  41. @Been_there_done_that

    Russia will reacquire Alaska during the coming American civil war. Our side (the “death to America” side) will give it to them in exchange for supplies.

  42. @Deep Thought

    The Russians are really Europeans.”

    Some of them are, but most of them are not, with regard to both ethnicity and cultural predisposition. None of them deserve to get any part of Alaska. It would be more likely that Sweden and Finland will eventually”get back” territory from Russia in and near the Baltic Sea.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
    , @Deep Thought
  43. Emslander says:
    @John Johnson

    Thanks JJ, or whichever low-level government psyop bureaucrat is at the desk on a Sunday, for keeping us up to date on the DOD counter-argument policy.

    When I see a JJ comment coming up, I remember all those Steelcase desks line against the walls in the “intelligence analyst” office on the second floor at the State Department. They didn’t even rate the four-foot-high cubicles.

    Very boring. And degrading. But you’re promised great things as you rise in the system, maybe even windows.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  44. @Been_there_done_that

    Sweden and Finland

    Sweden and Finland have small, old populations. Both will be practically extinct in less than a century. They will not be getting anything “back.”

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  45. Bama says:

    It seems that Western humanity insists to take itself to the slaughter house no matter Jewish intentions. What is this affliction that pushes goyim to support this evil exclusively Jewish when others are abhorred by similar destructive behavior? Is it their propaganda, control mechanisms or both? No matter the reasons, the end result is at goyim’s expense.

    • Replies: @skrik
  46. The Orange Buffoon is a real estate agent full of bluster and bullshit. Remember, he claimed he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours! WTF? The Russian Federation will prosecute this war until they achieve their SMO goals. Clearly, the “West” has been emasculated by Corporatism, Consumerism and Collectivism.

    • Troll: VinnyVette
  47. @Hulkamania

    Sweden and Finland have small, old populations.

    That may not necessarily still be the case when the older segment has died, but it does not matter anyway because my point was merely that, just as was the case when Russia sold Alaska, it is not entirely unlikely that in the future Russia may again have a need to repay war debts instead of providing promises for potential resources in the future, and thus see a need to consolidate its control over its core territory. Under certain conditions it would be better to relinquish its northern European regions if maintaining them becomes a burden, especially if the population in these regions assume they would be better off by being more closely aligned with Europe, just as the majority of Ukrainians did in 2013 and thereafter. In the context of the deluded notion that Russia would ever acquire Alaska, the potential scenario I mentioned still appears more realistic. Future Russian leaders may also see a rationale to return territory to Japan and China in the future. Nothing is ever static.

  48. Avery says:
    @Franz

    {I just wish the bright Mr Shamir could see the obvious fact that Russia’s SMO would have been over a long time ago if they would have blown Zelensky up.}

    Why?

    Zelenstein is helping Russia by his* stupid military decisions:

    – his disastrous Kursk invasion fiasco: Russians ended up killing about 70,000 very experienced, irreplaceable UkroNazi troops, and destroyed tons of equipment.

    – his orders not to retreat from various towns/strongpoints that Russians were about to surround, resulting in massive losses. Like Hitler refusing to allow Paulus to retreat from Stalingrad, resulting in the complete destruction of the powerful 6th army.

    – Zelenoid is an incompetent little twerp: let him keep screwing up, and help Russians.

    And despite what Mr. Israel Shamir says that assassinating Zelensky would be a terrorist act, it would not be.

    #1 Zelenoid is no longer a legitimate President: his term expired, and he is just ruling, illegally, by decree.

    #2 He is a legitimate military target being the Commander in Chief. Same as President Putin: Putin is a legitimate military target of Ukis, and Ukis have tried to kill him more than once.

    Nevertheless, assassinating Zelenoid would be very bad optics for Russia and Putin: they will sit back and let his Azov goons kill him, if they can overcome the British SAS protection detail that is reportedly guarding him 24/7

    And NO: SMO would not have been over a long time ago.
    Ukrainians decide nothing: it’s all driven from the West.
    The war will stop tomorrow, if US/UK/EU pull the plug.
    Which they never will.

    _____________________________________________________
    *
    Of course Zelenoid doesn’t decide anything: he does what UK (MI6) and US Deep State (CIA) tell him to do. He can’t take a piss without permission from GloboWest.

    • Agree: Hulkamania, Franz
    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  49. Agent76 says:

    Aug 20, 2025 FULL: Lavrov Praises Trump; Smashes Macron, Merz For ‘Awkward’ Bid To Change U.S’ Ukraine Position

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov launched a brutal attack on Europe after the EU leaders met with US President Donald Trump at the White House on August 18. Lavrov accused Europe of escalating the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. Lavrov said that Europe pumps weapons into Ukraine to take on Russia.

    Video Link

    Aug 16, 2025 Putin – Trump Joint Press Conference Alaska August 2025 – In Original Russian and English


    Video Link

  50. Rogue says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Whether there is any threat to Russia from NATO, or not (and your glib statement that there isn’t any, I’m not prepared to take at face value), is beside the point.

    The Russian perception of what is a threat to their country is what matters. NATO and the West have done nothing to allay those fears.

    Rather the West and NATO have shown very bad faith regarding NATO expansion, ever since the break-up of the Warsaw Pact.

    • Agree: Annacath
  51. Donald Trump is not an anti-war revolutionary president opposing the deep state, as he belongs to the same social class as its members. Recently, Trump sent 4,000 soldiers to invade Venezuela. U.S. imperialists and their elected leaders, including Obama, Trump, Biden and Bush, have consistently worked to undermine Venezuela since Chavez began nationalizing industries in 2008. They employ economic sanctions, hit squads, and even full-scale invasions to maintain control over the people and steal their country’s natural resources.

    This pattern repeats endlessly across the globe as nations attempt to establish socialist economies and-or state-capitalist economies. The lesson here is clear: success requires a unified international effort from the workers of every nation, fostering universal class consciousness.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  52. @Deep Thought

    When the Chinese give back Taiwan and Fujian Province to the Austronesians. You are “living on stolen land”, Chinaman. The Austronesians will need to go somewhere, since they are “living on stolen land” in the Phillipines. Like the Chinaman genocided the Austronesians in Fujian Province and Taiwan, the Austronesians genocided the Negritos in Luzon, so they will need some place to go after they give back The Phillipines to the Negritos. But that place can’t be Taiwan, because the Austronesians genocided the Negritos of Taiwan, so the Austronesians will have to reclaim Fujian Province, that they were pushed out of by the Chinese. YOU ARE LIVING ON STOLEN LAND, CHINAMAN. It doesn’t stop there. How about the Japanese giving Honshu and Hokkaido back to the Ainu? Speaking of the Ainu, the so-called “First Nations” of the Americas are “living on stolen land” that they thieved from the Ainu. The oh so saintly First Nations of the Americas are serial genociders, for example the Taino of Puerto Rico, pissing and moaning about Spanish genocide and demanding their land back. The Taino of Puerto Rico genocided a previous population of saintly “native Americans”, will the Taino admit their guilt and give it back to the original owners? But this comment is about YOU, Chinaman. It is long overdue for the Chinese to vacate the “stolen land” of Fujian Province in favor of the the rightful owners, the Austronesians. When are you gonna do it Ching Chong?

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  53. Z-man says:

    ‘Trump Makes Good’
    With Neocon Bolshevik Jooz surrounding Donald, they could still fuk it up.
    As always, Beware the Power of The Cabal.

  54. Rogue says:
    @John Johnson

    I doubt Russia is a paragon of freedoms for the average citizen.

    But, it has to be said, a great many Westerners are leaving their home countries and emigrating to Russia. They believe Russia to be a more “normal” country than what they were used to back home.

    And whilst the USA still has the first amendment, much of the rest of the West is becoming unarguably more authoritarian with each passing year.

    Free speech (a truly great right in Western Europe since WW2) is fast in decline.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  55. “Russians are not over concerned with territories gained or lost. Being so big explains it all. They even sold Alaska to the US for peanuts. They are, however, worried about this newly-acquired anti-Russian attitude in the leadership of the Ukraine.”

    From what planet or universe have you haled. Russia’s relationship with her neighbors has never been a holiday affair. The Russia we knw has long been a land of conquest. And most interesting is that of the two most popular leaders Alexander and Catherine — Greats, part of their ambition was to make Russia more like the western nations. That is why it is very strange to listen to the gobblede gook about how horrible the west is when a good deal of Russian history has been to modernize like the western world.

    But part of that process was Russia’s ambition to gain land and that she did by hood or by crook and no small amount was by sheer force. The very suggestion that the her neighboring countries need the US to foster animosity against Russia is

    Ludicrous


    Video Link

  56. skrik says:
    @Bama

    No matter the reasons, the end result is at goyim’s humanity’s expense

    FIFY.

    What is this affliction that pushes goyim to support this evil ..

    I’ve thought long and hard on this, ‘best’ result so far:

    The man or nation that lifts a voice or hand against Israel invites the wrath of God.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible

    AKA provoke *any* jew, risk losing access to [imaginary = impossible!] ‘life after death.’

    Me = open to any viable alternate(s). rgds

    PS [Imaginary = impossible!] ‘life after death’ is a scam the purported ancestral ((they)) invented 1000’s of years ago, but note that the modern ((they)) have no genetic link to any ancestral Levant ‘precursor’ group. Modern ((they)) steal stuff, not just Palestine and the lives of hapless Palestinian erstwhile legal owner/occupiers.

    Accessories to this corruption are everyone who pushes that particular and associated scams. Humanity could well afford to ditch all supernatural stupidity = get real!

    Then seek justice against aggressively invaded now illegally squatting mass-murdering genociders in Palestine, say.

  57. @Dr. Acula

    What Ukraine wants is easy. They (their government at least) want what their western masters want. Ukraine is nothing more than a puppet state.

  58. @Been_there_done_that

    Some of them are, but most of them are not, with regard to both ethnicity and cultural predisposition.

    Seems it should be the opposite– by googling for “are russian ethnically european?”

    Yes, ethnic Russians are considered European as they are an East Slavic ethnic group native to Eastern Europe, and they share a common ancestry, language, and cultural heritage with other Europeans. While Russia’s territory extends into Asia, the majority of its population, including Russians, lives in the European part of the country.

    It would be more likely that Sweden and Finland will eventually “get back” territory from Russia in and near the Baltic Sea.

    Can’t see anything wrong with THAT!

    Hope the feather-Indians will do it in their won country.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  59. @Rogue

    But, it has to be said, a great many Westerners are leaving their home countries and emigrating to Russia. They believe Russia to be a more “normal” country than what they were used to back home.

    A great many huh?

    Putin built some neighborhood for Westerners escaping wokism and it is mostly empty:

    Russia’s Dream Village for Anti-Woke Americans Draws Only Two Families, Sends a Father to Warzone
    https://united24media.com/latest-news/russias-dream-village-for-anti-woke-americans-draws-only-two-families-sends-a-father-to-warzone-9976

    And a dad from one family was scammed into going to the front.

    Only an idiot would think you need to move to Russia to escape wokism.

    You can also move to rural America and turn on off the television.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  60. @Been_there_done_that

    Future Russian leaders may also see a rationale to return territory to Japan and China in the future. Nothing is ever static.

    Why not?? But in the jap’s case, it will not be territory that will become their reckoning.

  61. @Emslander

    Thanks JJ, or whichever low-level government psyop bureaucrat is at the desk on a Sunday, for keeping us up to date on the DOD counter-argument policy.

    Does the government pay me to comment on the biological reality of race? Why don’t you explain that for us. I first started posting here on race and that was well before the war. Does our hypersensitive Federal government pay me to mock liberal and conservative narratives on races?

    You are one of many posters that would like the internet to be an echo chamber.

    Everyone logs on and is given opinions that aren’t at all challenging or offensive.

    No need for diversity of opinion. Your Favorite Political Blogger is right and you will be free from any pesky critical thinking.

    What could go wrong? Only tuning in to feel-good commentators will give you an adequate view of the war, right?

    Larry C. Johnson: ‘The Ukrainian Army Has Been Defeated’ March 25, 2022
    https://popularresistance.org/larry-c-johnson-the-ukrainian-army-has-been-defeated-whats-left-is-mop-up/

  62. @Low-carb Political Movement

    Recently, Trump sent 4,000 soldiers to invade Venezuela. U.S.

    These could be empty threats. I’d really like to see this invasion force have a go and see what happens to it.

    • Disagree: Mac_
  63. Pablo says:

    “Indeed, Brian Krassenstein, a well-known opposition figure, publicly called for Putin’s assassination.” What a surprise!! A Jewish Zionist advocating assassination. Who woulda thought? That is the Israeli Way isn’t it? The American System of Government is going to have to change in fundamental ways before there is any chance of getting free from the Jewish/Israeli Lobby. Prohibiting persons from having Dual citizenship, labeling AIPAC as a Foreign Lobby are two important steps. Curbing the influence of Billionaire Dollars is another important reform. It will be an uphill battle, but it has to start.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  64. The Doomsday clock stands a few seconds to midnight.

    Oh my god, no! Not the Doomsday clock!! What color is the TERRORISM alert at? Red? Are we at DEFCON 1? Let me check the local air quality number …

    AHHHHHHHH!

    Looks like another whiskey breakfast for me; thanks a lot OP.

  65. Quinn says:

    Hilarious that this was posted at unz.com. Stopped reading at the mention of “”The Deep State” being referenced as a catch-all boogeyman. Trump and Putin are actors in a Jewish script. End of story. Wise people have stopped falling for this shtick.

  66. Notsofast says:
    @24th Alabama

    good point but i was more pointing to the role of the british in the creation of israel, at the direction of the house of rothschild and the city of london. what difference does it make if jews are few in number, when they are directing the policy. it’s kind of like being the king of england, only with real power.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  67. Quinn says:
    @Franz

    You cited a main reason to recognize that the entire Ukraine debacle is a sham, a facade created by International Jews, to serve their goals. I’ve said for years that at any time if Putin wanted to end this quickly and efficiently he could have, and yet this meat grinder has ran on endlessly, with billions and billions of dollars being laundered through this fake country with its fake Jewish puppet president. You sound pretty normie.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Franz
    , @Derer
  68. Quinn says:
    @Hulkamania

    Delusional? I think you meant liar. He is most importantly, Jewish. Maintaining their narrative is what it’s all about.

  69. @Looger

    His book is The Wandering Who? A Study of Jewish Identity Politics.

    • Thanks: Looger
  70. katesisco says:

    The 3 years of UKRAINIANS armed with US weapons IS THE EUROPEAN ARMY. Even as the politicos stage a global show, the EU army is in existence. The plan is to delay the acquisition of the DONBASS by Russia until Ukraine passes legislation to enter NATO which will immediately declare the Ukrainian army the effective military arm of the EU, hence NATO.
    In one fell swoop of legislation the EU gets everything it wants. The Ukrainian army becomes part of the EU and NATO which Russia cannot wage war upon. It’s genius. Russia has a defense strategy which has held off this action on the EU part. Russia will not allow the DONBASS to remain Ukrainian territory.
    A Peace Accord in which Ukraine cedes the Russian occupied territory is essential over the indeterminate cease fire which history would then record as an illegal land grab. Russia will not accept any terms other than the relinquishment of the territory of the 4 provinces voting to become Russian and Crimea. Anything other than that will color all future diplomatic efforts, keep Russian funds tied, give talking points to accusations of aggression.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  71. @israel shamir

    I just wish the bright Mr Shamir could see the obvious fact that Russia’s SMO would have been over a long time ago if they would have blown Zelensky up.

    Mr Putin is a legalist, such terrorist actions are completely banned in his book.

    Putin kills his critics over a single opinion but he wouldn’t kill Zelensky?

    Have a look at all the Putin critics who have died in suspicious circumstances:

    Yevgeny Prigozhin is just the latest: A list of Putin’s dead critics
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/yevgeny-prigozhin-is-just-the-latest-a-list-of-putins-dead-critics-191021151.html

    The more likely answer is that Putin hasn’t been able to kill Zelensky.

    Russian intelligence has been clearly lacking in this war. They somehow missed a huge column headed for Kursk.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  72. @Quinn

    You cited a main reason to recognize that the entire Ukraine debacle is a sham, a facade created by International Jews, to serve their goals. I’ve said for years that at any time if Putin wanted to end this quickly and efficiently he could have, and yet this meat grinder has ran on endlessly, with billions and billions of dollars being laundered through this fake country with its fake Jewish puppet president.

    So you are saying that Putin is serving International Jews by continuing the war?

    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
    , @Quinn
  73. anastasia says:

    There is no way that any peace agreement can be reached in regard to Ukraine. It is either continuation of the war now, or continuation of the war later.

    I don’t even see how Russia can “win” a war other than taking over the whole country, and what would that look like? That is not tenable.

    The only way this thing can go away is for the EU and the US to stop sending weapons and men to Ukraine. They are not going to do that. Their goal is to weaken Russia to the point where they can break it up and take over. They can do that by continuing as long as they can to do what they are doing. They will destroy their own countries to keep this thing going, and they will. It is pretty obvious that the governments of these EU countries and the US are the enemies of their own people.

    • Agree: NobodyImportant
    • Thanks: Annacath
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @skrik
  74. @Anon

    “Trump is cleaning house in America and everyone loves it.”

    Garbage take. Trump is the removal of the plug that precipitates le deluge. In fact, he is the plug.

  75. @israel shamir

    Russia’s criminal invasion of Ukraine is an egregious violation of The United Nations Charter and Russia has committed War Crime Number One of the Nuremberg Code: waging aggressive war against another sovereign nation state. How does that make President Putin a “legalist”???

    • Troll: Annacath
    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  76. The war in the Ukraine is a messianic zionist war against Russia and all involved in the overthrow of the legitimate government of the Ukraine in 2014 were messianic zionist jews and their agenda to destroy Russia remains intact and on going and the zionist puppet Trump is an actor doing his masters Netanyahu’s will , both in the Ukraine and in the Israeli genocide in Palestine and Gaza.

    This messianic zionist war in the Ukraine will not end, read the Rand Corporation blueprints for the destruction of Russia that were laid out decades ago, they do not hide it, and these warmongering messianic jewish zionists are hell bent of the destruction of not only Russia and China but also at the destruction of America .

    Read the messianic zionist’s Protocols of Zion and their Talmud and their Torah and their Kabbala and see what they say about we Gentiles aka goyim and muslims, they call us animals and only fit to be slaves if not outright killed, go ahead , read it if you can handle the brutal truth.

    These zionist wars in the middle east were brought on by the Israeli and ZUS attack on the WTC on 911 and blamed on the muslims to provide the excuse to destroy the middle east for Israels greater Israel agenda, just as the October 7 false flag attack by Israels Mossad front Hamas was done to provide the excuse to genocide the Palestinian people and every thinking America knows the truth and God will not be mocked a judgement day is coming.

    • Agree: acementhead
  77. @katesisco

    Russia will not accept any terms other than the relinquishment of the territory of the 4 provinces voting to become Russian and Crimea.

    Which was a fraudulent vote.

    Unless you believe the majority of voters in Zaporozhia Oblast overwhelmingly supported Zelensky over pro-Russian candidates in the 2019 election but then became pro-Putin after being invaded.

  78. @anastasia

    They will destroy their own countries to keep this thing going, and they will. It is pretty obvious that the governments of these EU countries and the US are the enemies of their own people.

    What do the people of Russia gain from this war? Please explain using reason.

    • Replies: @anastasia
  79. GoySoy says:

    “This is how liberty dies…with thunderous applause”:

    Video Link

    First they came for the illegal immigrants, then they came for the crime:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-guard-mobilizing-19-states-immigration-crime-crackdown.amp

    Then they will come for the “antisemites”:

    U.S. Attorney for DC Pirro: “We have a problem with antisemitism in this country,
    I will go forward with every case with vengeance.”

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1953479819229790520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1953479819229790520%7Ctwgr%5Ef41c8b4893caeba9371c8294f8cfe8c8c0eeb8a1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finfostormer.com%2Fjeanine-pirro-we-have-a-problem-with-anti-semitism-in-this-country%2F

    The jew, charlie kirk says people who “blame the Jews” for our problems are “demonic” and have “brain rot.”

    https://twitter.com/infolibnews/status/1959006707679375671?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1959006707679375671%7Ctwgr%5E5167f50d491c43294b28e80ad6abd32f89b9383a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finfostormer.com%2Fcharlie-kirk-says-people-criticizing-jews-are-demonic%2F

    “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”.

    Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

  80. Amon says:

    By God am I tired of the constant white washing by Americans, the sudden good samaritan facade after putting an economic gun to Europeans head and forcing them destroy their own energy polices, economic trading partners while funnels the weapons needed to blow up pipelines and coordinating the economic terrorism, giving Zelensky the drones to blow up the land based pipelines and provide full access to GPS and up to date on the ground information through the starlink satellite network.

    Now they claim victimhood and say they had nothing to do with it, that they were forced into it, If that is your plan now, then fine, I will join the patriotic Europeans who beat the shit out of f*ggot American tourists and migrants in European cities.

    Dues Vult, Throw the Anglo Saxon f*ggots and their homo cult back into the Atlantic Sea.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
  81. @Dr. Acula

    You are making good points.

    In my experience though, there is also still much more to it and the potential solutions are to be found in the exact nuances/details:

    1- Though ironically usually disregarded in the public intellectual discussion about politics, they very main driving forces in the end when push comes to shove, motivating all the nations involved (just as those that happen to be more distant bystanders), not unsurprisingly given that they are factually simply aggregates and representations of the human beings they consist of, are NOT the cool RATIONAL ones, BUT those coming from the far deeper and powerful EMOTIONAL ones (anger, resentment, will to power, ego-centrism).

    As easily visible usually in one`s own life-decisions and the mere fact that nations go to war, which purely rationally are always pure madness economically/biologically speaking.
    Rationality overriding emotionality is the exception, the other way round the norm, on the individual as nation-collective level.

    The Trump government being the perfect latest embodiment, since headed by an obvious totally wisdom/rationale-incapable pathologically narcissistic megalomaniac, but the same general tendency only perhaps differing in degree is to be found among all the other leaders/nations involved as well as I see it:

    Zelensky and his present tyrannical Ukrainian governing clique are obvious highly corrupt/ed, megalomanical and dishonest usurpers, fanatical in their own interpretations of history and incapable of listening to the other side.

    And sadly the Russian Government of/around Putin/Lavrov/Medvedev are -though far more sophisticated in their behavior/representation- sadly not much less fanatical and corrupt in both their domestic human rights-violations and either deliberate or unconscious self-serving dishonesty about their country`s history by endlessly regurgitating childish “Nazi”-tropes and claiming eternal victimhood status, which given their Tzarist and Stalinist/Soviet empire`s centuries-long oppression of all countries around them simply a jaw-dropping hypocrisy.

    And to complete the horror-cabinet of corrupt/fanatical national usurpers voila Starmer, Macron, Von der Leyen, Merz, Rutte….

    All driven by mainly some obscure emotional self-centered greed for power, narcissism and revolting pseudo-do-gooder-ism. And only some occasional forlorn remnant of honesty/rationality at this stage apparently not more than window-dressing.

    2- That being said and to complete the extremely nuanced picture almost all the peoples of those countries involved at the same time have absolutely rightful sentiment as well:

    A) The Russian`s resentment regarding breaking of US/NATO promises not to expand over all Easter Europe and the rights of Russian-speakers in the Eastern Ukrainian Territories.

    B) The Ukrainian`s resentment of having had their own country/culture and language oppressed by Russia for centuries against their will since Catherine the Great and the gradual and deliberate invasion/ take-over of the Donbas/Eastern Provinces by Russian immigrants during those centuries:

    https://erian.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-war-good-versus-bad-guys

    C) The East (and some West-) Europeans`concern for security and memory of decades/centuries of Russian/Soviet oppression.

    And to and with those legitimate peoples concern a solution can/must be found, purely territorially and in the form of compromises and give and take from ALL sides equally.

    A) Russia cannot keep all the territory of the seized 4 Eastern Regions, that would obviously be a clear violation of the rights and history of the original Ukrainians` of those areas (see Substack article above if interested).

    B) Ukraine cannot keep/get back a majority of the territory seized by Russia, especially those where clear fair plebiscite`s have shown/will show that it is their peoples`free will to join Russia.

    C) Eastern(some Western)-Europeans cannot expand to the stage where they directly threaten Russia`s security concerns, just as the other way round.

    But of course all this is far easier said/written than done and pre-supposes the fact that at some point all the involved parties are willing/capable of leaving emotionality aside in favor for rationality. At this stage a dubious proposal?

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @peterAUS
  82. Anon[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    It will be like old times, with everyone employed at some Cold War grift …

    The current Cold War grift is AI: datacenter construction, startups, chip design/fabrication, and tweaking the underlying neural nets to eke out a higher benchmark score.

    And, like the 1980s defense buildout and the 1990s dot com boom, it’s mostly a waste of money. We might as well wait for China to take the lead and then buy LLMs from them. Good thing America still has the world’s reserve currency.

    • Replies: @Anon
  83. katesisco says:
    @Dr. Acula

    Would the possible reason for Mr Zelenski ‘s refusal to agree to a PEACE ACCORD be the ouster of Russia from the diplomatically recognized community? Without a globally recognized PEACE ACCORD any other result would not be accepted by the diplomatic community word wide. Hence there would not be any relief from sanctions or relief from banking or shipping restrictions in place today. The country would be ostracized as is North Korea.
    To demonstrate our global unification a PEACE ACCORD is essential to restore normal relations between nations.
    It is not merely show, it is the essential component of our international community. Zelenski must recognize a Peace Accord …..President Trump must establish a date for a Peace Accord signing with an Ukraine elected representative if Zelenski is unable to complete his diplomatic obligations to peaceful relations among nations.

  84. skrik says:
    @anastasia

    The only way this thing can go away is for the EU and the US to stop sending weapons and men to Ukraine. They are not going to do that

    More fool them. This found at MoA:

    Alexander G. Rubio @AlexanderGRubi2 – 2:22 UTC · Aug 19, 2025
    The plan is for the US to sell weapons to the Europeans, who will then provide them to Kiev. However, the US doesn’t have the weapons to sell, the Europeans don’t have the money to buy, and Kiev doesn’t have the soldiers to use them. Other than that it’s a foolproof plan

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/08/ukraine-trump-continues-to-humilate-europe.html

    Looks to me like Russia has no choice but to press on until Ukraine collapses = unconditional surrender = complete and total *self*-humiliation of US/NATO, UK & EU. [Blame it all on the controlling jews? Who else? Haw!] rgds

  85. @Been_there_done_that

    That may not necessarily still be the case when the older segment has died

    Then their populations will just be even smaller. Russia has already exterminated more hohols than the number of people either Sweden or Finland could ever field, militarily. If they try to “get back” anything, Russia will exterminate them both even more easily, and that will be the end of both of their “nations,” forever.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  86. anon[229] • Disclaimer says:

    [Russians] feel that Trump submitted to the demands of the Deep State when he bombed Iran

    TIL that Russians have “feelings” about geopolitics. That’s new. Usually they are pretty hard nosed about this stuff, never mind what their army of Useful Idiots (like OP here) keeps feeding the idiot, the frustrated, and the idle masses of the West.

    How about IRI’s useless “ally” the Russian Federation? Owned stock lock and barrel since 100+ years ago by the CABAL which runs the US Deep State … They didn’t lift a finger to help, did they?

    As to Trump, any American hasn’t figured out that this Scum Bag is put in place to dismantle the Republic, trash the Constitution, Shit on all our institutions, and preside over the Bankruptcy proceedings of US of A Inc. is beyond a fool.

    Israel Shamir. What is this the cause of the perverse propensity of your kind to lie and twist the truth all the time? Is this why God Almighty and Jesus and David cursed you and your kind?

  87. @katesisco

    Zelenski must recognize a Peace Accord …..President Trump must establish a date for a Peace Accord signing with an Ukraine elected representative if Zelenski is unable to complete his diplomatic obligations to peaceful relations among nations.

    What you mean is that you would like Zelensky to sign on off on Putin’s land demands which includes territory he has not taken. Territory his Western internet defenders told us he would have by now. You would like Trump to bully him into accepting Putin’s demands which is what he tried earlier in the year.

    You and others don’t seem to read the news outside of Unz.

    Russia currently has gas station lines from Ukraine’s refinery attacks.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2097894/vladimir-putin-russia-fuel-crisis-petrol-stations

    Why wouldn’t Ukraine try to blow up more refineries in order to pressure Russia? Why sign now?

    It really doesn’t make sense from their position. They just started launching their own home made cruise missile. Might as well take out more oil Refineries to try and cause pump panic. Or does Ukraine now have to play by Putin’s rules even though they were invaded?

    It is not merely show, it is the essential component of our international community.

    The international community voted 143-5 that Russia is the unjust aggressor and should go home.

    The UN has voted against both Russia and Israel.

    But for the crowds at Unz the vote only counts in the case of Israel. Putin is free to do as he pleases which includes censoring the internet and selling cheap oil to Israel. He can ignore the international community cause they’re all just US vassal states or something…..except when they vote against Israel and the US…..which is all the time.

  88. @katesisco

    Would the possible reason for Mr Zelenski ‘s refusal to agree to a PEACE ACCORD be the ouster of Russia from the diplomatically recognized community?

    No, the reason Mr Zelensky refuses to agree to peace is because his American masters have ordered him to reject peace. It’s that simple. Zelensky does not make decisions. He follows the script that he is given, and right now he and the European “leaders” are playing the “bad cop” role to Trump’s “good cop” in an orchestrated good cop/bad cop routine aimed at forcing a Minsk 3 false peace on Russia.

  89. @katesisco

    It is not Ukraine that is standing in the way of a peace treaty, it is Russia that stands in the way of a peace treaty. President Zelensky is on record stating that Ukraine is willing to give up some territorial claims it has made in the past(likely refering to Crimea), and that Ukraine is willing to sign a peace treaty without a security guarantee from US/EU. Russia meanwhile has stuck to its maximalist demands even escalating it’s demands, insisting Ukraine cede territory that Russia doesn’t occupy.

  90. @Avery

    Yes, Zelensky is more useful to Russia alive than dead. He doesn’t make decisions. Those are all made by Americans or British in European military bases or the Pentagon, so killing him would have no real effect on military or political decisions. If he were killed, he would just become a martyr in the western media. Alive, he can be set up as a target for western ire and become a scapegoat as their war is lost. This has already begun to happen, as many have started to blame Z for losses in the Ukraine (because of his “corruption” or whatever) and media has been suggesting that he be replaced with someone else, like Zaluzhny. Thus, Zelensky is already becoming a focal point for dissention in the ranks, rather than a point of unity.

    It’s common in Russian military strategy to see them leaving a route of retreat for an almost encircled enemy. A fully encircled enemy will only fight harder, but leaving a point of retreat allows them to be harried while being ejected. What is happening with Zelensky is analogous to that, only in the political realm. He is one of the escape routes left open for the West.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  91. @anon

    Putin telling Iran to back down after being attacked by Israel was ignored by our usual bloggers.

    Putin could give Netanyahu a back massage on live tv and our bloggers would post an op-ed about Jewish influence in Medeval Europe.

    We had a couple pro-Putin bloggers that did everything to avoid mentioning Prigozhin.

    Putin putting his Jewish chef turned billionaire private warlord in charge of the main front broke the narrative of him fightin’ them Jews. So they simply didn’t talk about it.

    Putin still has his Jewish Goebbels who dresses like Dr. No and also goes unmentioned by our Putin defenders. A half-man like Putin who amusingly hides a male-model son in London from the draft:
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kremlin-tv-star-erupts-son-220618091.html

    Looks like he literally married up.

    There is a video from him on Russian state TV ranting about how he is Jewish which gives him a direct line to God. He told Russian men it is their duty to die while he hides a male model son who paints his nails. He also went on a rant about how he shouldn’t have to lose his Italian vacation home.

    You just cannot make this shit up. What a wacky country.

  92. Sorry must disagree. The Alaskan Summit and the Naval flotilla to Venezuela, one behind the other, might have more to do with deflecting the news cycle and media attention away from the Grave Situation unfolding now in Gaza.

    Look Trump is a cut out for the Mssad, sorry, he is taking instructions. If he was for peace in Ukraine why not start with ending the Forced Starvation of the whole population in Gaza first ???? Obviously peace and some basic humanity is not of primary concern for him. It is doubtful that he really is in charge of WH policies, except in his fanciful staged manner of The President.

    Recall the Netanyahoo took a flight to see Putin in 2024 before the US election. Many believed that promises were made and a deal outlined: no Russ support for Syria, Iran, Lebanon, etc in return for bringing Ukraine to heel via the newly elected Trump. The former came true to most observers.

    I doubt that Trump has all this deep strategic political analysis and thinking as many commenters here claim.

    Ukraine is part and partial of the Cover Show, distract from Gaza, so the Starvation, Extermination, and Force Expulsion may be completed.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  93. Where are articles about Palestine genocide. Never again is now.

  94. @Franz

    Zelinskyy was originally democratic until the Azov Brigades made him an offer he couldn’t refuse .


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Franz
  95. @EliteCommInc.

    That’s why Russia allowed the Baltic states and East Germany to go their own way, while the US remains the occupying power in Germany and Japan?

  96. @Deep Thought

    “are russian ethnically european?”

    It appears that you are a sloppy reader because you only dealt with one of the two necessary conditions I cited (which you even quoted), namely ethnicity, based on Russian citizens being primarily Slavic. Yet far more important is their cultural predisposition, and over many decades there have been stark divisions between Russian and European on a cultural level. Putin frequently lumps Europeans in with “the West” – his enemies – while most Europeans regard Russians as culturally alien and adversarial. Generously assuming that four fifths of Russian citizens are considered ethnically European (even though some of them living farther east would have Asiatic admixture), for my statement to be false more than three fifths of them would have to feel a stronger cultural affinity toward Europe than to Russia in light of this stark bifurcation. Though this may still be the case for many living in the St. Petersburg region, near Finland and Estonia, based on a common history, for instance a Viking background and Swedish or German cultural hegemony before the revolution more than a century ago, they are the minority. It was my supposition that some day in the future, when centralized Muscovite oppression becomes unbearable, this minority will organize to break free from that yoke, as could also be expected to occur among people in Belarus under a different leadership.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  97. Thomasina says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Oh, but there IS a very strong reason the British oppose Russia – to protect their banking system, the financial system, the City of London Corporation, to protect the gravy train.

    And they would also like to get their hands on all those Russian resources (just as they have done for centuries in myriad other countries). I think it was a day after Gaddafi was murdered that they set up a central bank in Libya, and it was only a few days after that that the leaders of the UK and France were in Libya to steal Libyan oil resources. Imagine murdering a guy, and then a week later nonchalantly wandering into his home and stealing all of his assets.

    But we can agree that the UK citizens are led by the nose by the media. In that respect they are no different than citizens of every other country. Citizens have rarely had a say in anything; they just fight and die in the wars the elites create.

  98. @anon

    they didn’t lift a finger to help, did they?

    Russia supplied Iran with air defence and with missile technology.

    • Replies: @anon
  99. @John Johnson

    Late Mr Prigozhin was a very loyal to Putin man. He adored Putin, while he disliked the Minister of Defence. Even prone to conspiracy Russians do not think Putin ordered to kill this brave soldier.

    • Replies: @Slavjansky
    , @John Johnson
  100. @Tommy Thompson

    no Russ support for Syria, Iran, Lebanon, etc in return for bringing Ukraine to heel via the newly elected Trump. The former came true to most observers.

    No, it didn’t. Both Russian and Iranian governments have refuted this black propaganda claim of “no Russ support” numerous times.

    • Agree: israel shamir
  101. @Hulkamania

    …Russia will exterminate them both even more easily…

    You keep coming on with macho fantasies of extermination – so we might imagine you are some scrawny guy from Russia who wears a kippa while typing away in an air-conditioned mobile home in the dusty West Bank, indirectly subsidized by American taxpayers – but my comment clearly alluded to a future scenario in which Russia will chose to sell off territory for the sake of expediency and practicality, as was the case with Alaska in the 19th century.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  102. @Hulkamania

    Yes, Zelensky is more useful to Russia alive than dead. He doesn’t make decisions. Those are all made by Americans or British in European military bases or the Pentagon, so killing him would have no real effect on military or political decisions.

    That is simply false as seen by the fact that Zelensky did not take US/British warnings about Putin invading from Belarus. Russia would be in much worse shape if the Ukrainian military had set a trap and blown the bridge. Zelensky was trying to negotiate with Putin when the US/UK was telling him to put the military in highest level of alert and prepare for war. There is only one bridge in the north that connects to Belarus and Zelensky made a huge mistake in not destroying it until after the invasion had started. The surrounding area is swampland and provides a natural defense.

    Zelensky also ignored repeated US/UK advice to abandon Bakhmut.

    Biden’s request for them to not attack refineries during the election year was ignored.

    The Kursk expedition went against US/UK military doctrine. Western generals would not approve the intentional creation of an isolated pocket behind enemy lines. The purpose and if it was a success is still speculation.

    Thus there are many cases where Zelensky ignored the US and UK. It is fortunate for Russia that Zelensky did not hand over war strategy to US/UK generals.

    It’s common in Russian military strategy to see them leaving a route of retreat for an almost encircled enemy.

    I see no reason to assume that anyone in the Russian military is adhering to some sort of military strategy playbook. I just watched another video where Russians made the mistake of parking their armored vehicles too closely. That is a WW1 era mistake and they do it weekly.

    • Troll: Hulkamania
    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  103. @israel shamir

    Before I can respond you will have to explain what you mean by occupying power.

    And No. Russia is not permitting the country’s in the region to go their own way, unless they are members of NATO.

    Even the nets pilot system suggests that they act independently. But that is of course blatantly false. The impression is one of independence, but in reality unless aid states serve Russian security expectations they are no independent. Now I want to make sure that I acknowledge influence as part of any equation. The US has invaded the any the previous countries she aided in their bid for independence simply because they chose become closer with China. Russia on the other hand has threatened and engaged in military coercion to ensure that states abide by Russian demands.

    As South Korea moves to reunite with N. Korea,. despite opposing said action that would end a democratic state — the US is not going to threaten S. Korea with war. Independence is Mexico dancing with Chinese Communists and the Current Russian state with very little comment even from the US.

    Independence is Mexican troops seizing US troops by force on the US side of the border and the president and Congress with no response — because they assume it was all just a mistake instead of a test.

    That is what independence looks like. You won’t see anything of the kind coming out the Eastern lock — Russia’s sphere of influence.

  104. @israel shamir

    The United States is not an “occupying power in Germany and Japan”. The military occupation of Germany and Japan was stipulated in the surrender agreement, and ended in 1952. I have a lot more to say on this subject if you insist on batting it around.

  105. @Bombercommand

    Yes but using the bitch Victoria Nuland and the CIA to subvert Ukrainian politics was completely within international norms, right?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  106. @israel shamir

    Russian Rullet with hand grenades. Gagaga

  107. Quinn says:
    @Hulkamania

    It comes from Jewish script writers.

  108. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I agree! Fake industries like AI are the easiest to shut down. I have noticed that all new industries are allowed to bubble and crash. The riskiest investors jump in early with the startups and if the products are popular then they must be crashed and then bought up on the cheap by the usual suspects. The marijuana industry recently went through this, killed by regulation and then brought back to life by the big investment funds. It’s a shake-up and screen-out process, and the COVID shutdown was the biggest industry disruptor in history. Lots of mom and pops bit the dust, lots of doctors retired and stepped aside for nurse practitioners. Only the most convenient collaborators are allowed to survive.

  109. @Notsofast

    Agreed, that in a materialist society those with
    money dictate the rules, but only until
    the next, inevitable disaster.

  110. peterAUS says:
    @Hulkamania

    I don’t know where this idiotic idea comes from…

    From some parts of the Eastern Europe in general and Russia in particular.

  111. Zumbuddi says:
    @24th Alabama

    There was the enmity between Esau and Jacob; between Cain and Abel, and it never really let up:
    In a recent conversation about the Jewish revolts against Rome that culminated in Masada, it was stated that a major reason the Jewish rebels failed is due their fighting against each other, to the extent that one group of Jewish rebels destroyed the entire grain supply, making it impossible to withstand siege.

    In zionism’s early days, as in ancient times, there were JEWS and there were jews.
    In USA, early & assimilated German Jews disliked & were embarrassed by Eastern European Jews. Those German Jews — that included Rothschilds, Warburgs, Schiffs, Baron de Hirsch — devised schemes to distribute E. European Jews among numerous American states — anywhere but New York, where E European Jews lived in squalor & filth under the noses of the Jewish elite.
    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/industrial-removal-office

    In a conversation about origins of ‘the Jewish lobby, Ilan Pappé said:
    :https://www dot youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Iw2fm58FY

    the Jewish leaders that led Zionism were made of Western European Jews who did not at all think that their place is in Palestine. They were —part of them were British Aristocrats, Anglo Jewish Aristocrats.
    They actually shared sentiments like the ones expressed by Lord Balfour in 1905 when he was the Prime Minister of Britain, that indeed there is anti-Semitism in Central and Eastern Europe that has to be resolved but God forbid if the result would be an influx of Eastern European Jews into Britain. That they wanted to stop, both the Anglo-Jewish aristocrats and Balfour wanted to stop the influx of Jews, of Jews coming [to Britain]. And they also after 1905 begin to think they’re all Bolsheviks as well and so on, so it was trying to make sure into which direction the flight from from Russia and Poland and Romania is going. So this I think that’s a formative period of Zionism.

    and
    (~26 min)–

    “What I found fascinating is what I found about the Anglo Zionist aristocracies which we talked about before: In every conversation Herzl had with a leader or ruler in Europe he kept explaining that
    this is not for the Western European Jews, it’s all for the Eastern European Jews and it will prevent them from entering Western Europe and Britain and so on.
    So it was quite a an incredible beginning of Zionism.
    I think he planted this idea that if Europe doesn’t want you, you can re-create Europe [in Palestine].”

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  112. Agent76 says:

    Aug 20, 2025 Lavrov: Trump has a Clear Understanding of Russia’s Interests in Ukraine; The EU Only Wants War

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov gives a short interview to All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK) on the recent summit in Alaska between Presidents Putin and Trump, and the follow-up meeting in Washington between Trump and President Zelensky and members of European and EU Heads of Government
    
    

    

    • Thanks: Rurik
  113. Avery says:
    @katesisco

    {….refusal to agree to a PEACE ACCORD be the ouster of Russia from the diplomatically recognized community?}

    Are you serious?
    What are you talking about?
    What so-called “ouster”?
    What so-called “diplomatically recognized community”?

    Russia is one of the only 5 PERMANENT members of the UNSC.
    Highest level of World Community diplomacy.

    The so-called “diplomatically recognized community” are the US’s poodles (UK and EU), various other sycophants, occupied satrapies (Japan, South Korea), nothingburger countries (the Baltics, Finland, Sweden et.al.). They are the ones who are playing childish — and ineffectual — games with Russia.
    Go ahead, ask Russians if they give a Flying F_____.

    The majority of humanity outside of the GloboWest is either neutral, friends, or allies with Russia.

    World’s #1 economic powerhouse – China – is Russia’s close friend.
    BRICs total GDP is 40% of Global output, while G7 (the West) is 30%.
    And it is getting worse for G7 year in, year out.

    So, again: What are you talking about?

    [Xi hugs Putin as Russia-China talks sealed with rare show of affection]

  114. @John Johnson

    Since you are a Jewish whore for Brother Zelensky,
    there is no excuse for him to ignore your military
    advice. If you have any self respect you will resign
    as his chief strategist, return all payments,
    forthwith and fall on your menorah.

    • Agree: Avery
  115. @Notsofast

    Stalin took far too long to deal with Trotsky

  116. @EliteCommInc.

    Russia sold Alaska to the US hoping that such would help the US understand that if it ever allied itself to ally with the UK that the US would be backing endless evil across the globe.

    `

  117. Shamir make fun. Reply yes?

  118. peterAUS says:
    @Alastair Rockwell

    Firstly, compliments for the post.

    At this stage a dubious proposal?

    Very.

    Both sides in this conflict believe (perhaps just want to believe….) that with just one more push/time the opposite will buckle. And then fold.
    People that matter, I mean; not the cannon fodder. Those with power to enforce their will, that is.

    And even the cannon fodder. You are spot on re emotional here.
    A grieving family, women in particular, especially mother accepting that their man…son…died for nothing?!?
    Getting those people just little …ahm…’directed’ by TPTBs; who can say “stop this now”?! Even if that’s not, with those two, an invitation for prison, or worse.

    Realistically this could go on for the next couple of years, at this tempo.
    We just need to get used to it. And that’s easy.
    Imagine if somebody told you 5 years ago that some minor organized power would blow up Russian strategic bombers/sink a major ship/bomb a capitol and nothing of real substance would be Kremlin’s response.

    This is the bloody version, literally, of the Clown World.
    People like you will just need to get used to it. Try to handle it somehow.
    Keyword ‘somehow’.

  119. @Been_there_done_that

    It’s a fact that Russia has exterminated a large number of hohols with relative ease. It is also a fact that Sweden and Finland have a small fraction of the military power that the Ukraine has, as well as having much lower quality troops. In addition, Russia does not consider Swedes or Finns to be brothers in the same way that they consider hohols to be, so they would have no objection to causing indiscriminate collateral damage and mass civilian casualties. Taking all of this into account, it is safe to say that Russia would exterminate Swedes and Finns at an even greater rate and in even greater proportions than they have done to hohols.

    That is all, of course, assuming that Swedes and Finns do not tap out almost immediately, which they would, since neither population is constituted for real war and neither would be able to tolerate the hardships of real war or mass casualties (either from a psychological standpoint or from a logistic/economic/societal standpoint). Hohols are made of much sterner stuff (because they are actually Russians) than Swedes or Finns are.

    • Replies: @Avery
  120. @Anon

    Trump is the one that has been tapped to bring the US down to become irrelevant in the upcoming world order. Why is he deploying military to US cities under the guise of fighting crime? Once the financial crisis comes to a head, the SHTF. Trump is the fall guy!!!! The US has become a joke.

    • Troll: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @James Scott
  121. @Anon

    Trump has never been proven to be a pedophile you lying piece of shit.

    Liza… Get back in the kitchen where you belong and make Trump a sammitch!

  122. Joe Webb says:

    Shamir luvs Trump, the strong leader. Shamir luvs The Iron Heel by Jack London, which celebrates the dictator du jour. Shamir is still a communist/leninist fool.

    I know him personally having spent a day or so with him driving him up to Jack London’s digs in Napa, California about 20 years ago. He thanked me by giving me a copy of The Iron Heel, again, which is a portrait of the Revolutionary communist maximum Leader

    Give me the Big Man! is his Jewish knee-jerk Pavlov’s dog excited barking.

    Trump wants to clear up the Ukraine War to prepare for more war against Palestine. In this way, Palestine is not just the killing fields for the Jews locally, but sets up Greater Israel to rule the ME and control Iran’s oil to counter China. It is that simple.

    Psychologically speaking, Trump and Netanyahu are equally attractive to Shamir, Big Man wise.

    Jews luv Big Men, and even Big Wymyn, like Golda Meyer.

    Jews are natural born genetic totalitarians. Trump is a capitalist pig, (from my old Socialist days). And Shamir is a totalitarian, again, psychologically speaking.

    Trump will start world war whatever to satisfy his lust for power and Jewish Power. Finish the job is his mantra. Israel is King. Trump is the vassal of Israel, Chosen People, etc.

    Trumpstein’s only value is Winning, Ego, Grab-em by the cunt, Finish the Job, Gaza Don, penthouses for the Jew Rich in Gaza, and Grab the Gaza Oil..how did my oil get under their sand?

    Funny that. Shamir did not address the obvious realpolitik thesis, Middle East Oil to counter China and contain Russia and continue to build the Dollar economy/credit to kill BRICS (which now has 40% of the world economy and can only grow especially as the US/Europe enters recession and worse.

    Joe

    • Troll: VinnyVette
  123. @ProsecuteGenocide

    The idea Trump could just wave his hand and jew power will be gone is retarded.

    Trump is not an emperor.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
  124. @John Johnson

    I think the conduct of the war by Putin speaks for itself and does leave the possibility that it is all a game. An existential threat needs to be completely eliminated ASAP. I could see the grinding down strategy being legitimate for the first two years while Putin builds up forces for the main event, but this crap going on for going on 4 years is stupid. Russia has no choice but to take all of Ukraine at this point. Letting the US/EU in any negotiations means capitulation as this will blow up again once Putin is gone. This very well could be kabuki theater at its finest. Putin very well could be one of them. I mean the man was a part of the WEF young leaders program. The fact that he doesn’t want to stick the dagger through the Ukraine has to give one pause. The excuse about limiting casualties is out the door now with drones targeting industrial sites. Take the whole thing. Putin might be a hero to most Ukrainians.

  125. Avery says:
    @Hulkamania

    {Taking all of this into account, it is safe to say that Russia would exterminate Swedes and Finns at an even greater rate and in even greater proportions than they have done to hohols.}

    Well said.

    And in case of any NATO shenanigans, Russia would have no compunction to Sarmat the delusional NATO wannabes (Finland, Sweden).

    Russians are well aware that these Nordics consider Slavs sub-humans.
    So yeah, go ahead, Make My Day.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  126. @Jefferson Temple

    When Roosky Fanboys hear “United Nations Charter” and “Nuremberg Principles” they immediately try to change the subject. Ain’t gonna work. Raggedy Bear has its leg caught in the Bear Trap and there is no way out.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  127. @Zumbuddi

    The return to Zion was a cover story to conceal the actual reason the Jews were
    dumped on the Palestinians. The reason was that nobody wanted them, but the
    Palestinians, being governed by the Turks, then the British, lacked any means
    to keep the Jews out of Jerusalem. The low man on the totem pole catches the
    overflow and the waste.

  128. Anon[822] • Disclaimer says:

    Each month the guy who draws the most bots should get a little Oscar-type gold statue – like a Pimply Wanker from Toda’a Central fellating a borderline-retarded JTRIG chav. Today, Shamir clinches the award with this post!

    John Johnson, Bombercommand, A123, Been_there_done_that, all the most obsessive perseverating Dunning Kruger all-stars. What drew the shit-eating botflies to buzz around?

    Shamir’s refusal to take sides, maybe, like it’s a pro sports game, and cheer when his side wins. What’s worse, he applies socially awkward criteria, like peace, UN Charter Article 2§4, and the legal imperative of prevention or punishment of genocide. How those criminal law provisions interact explains a lot of the tortured logorrhea of the bots and their ventriloquists.

    https://legal.un.org/avl/pdf/ha/cppcg/cppcg_e.pdf

    Bots use loopholes the US put into the convention – loopholes that the civilized world closed by codifying crimes against peace and security, A/48/10*, and its implementation in the Rome Statute and the complementarity principle.

    * https://www.bits.de/ac-archive/voelkerrecht/on/dcode.htm#abstract

    Because the sole US vital interest is CIA impunity. Peace threatens that, punishment for Jew genocide threatens that. Russia enforcing peace at gunpoint (and hypersonic nonballistic missile point) as the G-192 writes the Jew genocide bill of indictment? Existential crisis for the US and its satellites.

  129. @Carlton Meyer

    Very true… Since 2014 actually…. But yeah apparently some of the ones who did are sleeper cell saboteurs… carrying out attacks.

  130. dimples says:

    This article, entitled ‘Chump Makes Good’ does not make much sense. It’s clear that the Chump-Putin talk was a flop. The planned apres yack lunch and extended meeting were cancelled. No announcements of any significance have been made since as far as I can tell.

    Meanwhile the war continues. Ukrotards continue to be slaughtered in large numbers so it’s all good. Chump whines about the death toll but will continue to provide the ISR that enables the Ukrotards to keep on the path of their ultimate self immolation. Following the example of his Jewish masters, Chump will arrange for the cost of the war to be pushed on to somebody else, ie the Eurotards. Military industrial corporations and bureaucracies, the true rulers of Western civilization, will continue to profit.

    • Troll: VinnyVette
  131. Miville says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Russia expected the British Empire to take Alaska by force : their empire was across the border and well guarded. Russia made a good move selling that piece of land they could not afford to maintain to the buyer they then hated most.

  132. Rogue says:
    @John Johnson

    There are several YouTube videos of Westerners who think Russia is the new promised land. Of course, no such thing exists. Certainly not in this life.

    But your hatred of Russia is obvious – and if for no other reason I love the place. 🇷🇺👍

    • Thanks: Emslander, Mark G.
  133. @israel shamir

    Late Mr Prigozhin was a very loyal to Putin man.

    Who fought Russian forces in what looked like an insurrection where he changed his mind.

    Not something you can reverse.

    Even prone to conspiracy Russians do not think Putin ordered to kill this brave soldier.

    So you believe Putin’s story that he died in a tragic accident involving vodka and hand grenades?

    If you are going to take a run at the king then you need to kill him.

    That is the only lesson.

    Prigozhin most likely had a death wish. There are some really weird stories about him. A very sick and twisted person but was probably the only honest general that Putin had.

  134. Our survival is on the stake

    Edited by Paul Bennett

    • Replies: @Anon
  135. @Avery

    And in case of any NATO shenanigans, Russia would have no compunction to Sarmat the delusional NATO wannabes (Finland, Sweden).

    Which would be just as suicidal and stupid as any nuclear attack from either side….which means the same MADD standoff that has existed since the 1970s.

    Finland and Sweden are full members of NATO and not wannabes. There is no trial period.

    Putin’s genius 2.5 week special operation has added 830 miles of NATO border to Russia through Finland. Great job.

    Russians are well aware that these Nordics consider Slavs sub-humans.
    So yeah, go ahead, Make My Day.

    MAKE MAH DAY lol

    Nordics make money from this war in oil profit while Slavs kill each other in trenches.

    Watch out Nordics! We might take a break from killing each other to check your arrogant attitude!

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  136. @Been_there_done_that

    the historical facts are clear

    No, they aren’t. Historical “facts” can NEVER be clear in the final analysis. Current “facts,” either. Too much stupidity and lies.

  137. @Bombercommand

    The Russians did what they needed to do to counter a lawless and completely arrogant NATO. And they’ve won. Deal with it. I am an American and I don’t want any more Americans to die, or even participate in, this crusade against Russia. Unlike you, who could care less about the cannon fodder of any country.

  138. MCayrow says:

    Fascinating read; thank you! But when it comes to the EU, I think La Nuland had it right.

  139. @Been_there_done_that

    you only dealt with one of the two necessary conditions I cited (which you even quoted), namely ethnicity, based on Russian citizens being primarily Slavic

    Ethnicity is one, and perhaps the main, factor in the classification of groups of people. The Slavs are considered ethically European.

    Yet far more important is their cultural predisposition, and over many decades there have been stark divisions between Russian and European on a cultural level.

    Being culturally different does not necessarily make them non-European. The Italians are culturally quite different from the Brits but both ARE Europeans.

    And the Chinese are very different from the Indians culturally, but both are considered Asians.

    Putin frequently lumps Europeans in with “the West” – his enemies – while most Europeans regard Russians as culturally alien and adversarial.

    I have read that the Russians– from the Tsars to Putin– desperately wanted to be accepted as being part of the European family.

    If one side “regard Russians as culturally alien” can arbitrarily make them non-European, then the other side should be able to unilaterally make themselves European by wanting to be Europeans!

  140. gT says:

    One day after Putin kicks the bucket he is going to be known as “St Putin of St Petersburg, Saviour of Russia and Protector of the Tribe”.

    • Agree: Kingsmeg
  141. Quinn says:
    @John Johnson

    As Robert Bruce describes, there are too many things that dont add up.

    Russia is also a Jewish oligarchy. Putin is in with Chabad. Putin is most definitely a friend of Israel.

    This is literally all theater, and keeping the conflict on simmer absolutely helps Jews bent on creating international conflict. And if you pay attention to what influential Jews on both sides are saying, it is clear Ukraine serves multiple purposes, apparent and surely hidden.

  142. anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    And the Jews think it will provide them with their long-awaited Armageddon.

    Izzy baby, aren’t you supposed to be a Jew yourself — or at least pretending to be one?

    Stick to your script or they’ll send you back to Novosibirsk.

  143. Franz says:
    @israel shamir

    How frustrating is that?

    Hitler had the same sense of moral rectitude. In the 1970s, there was a famous Michael Caine movie (The Eagle Has Landed) where he led German commandos to England to kidnap or kill Churchill. So many problems that would have been solved! But Adolt would never have allowed it, that we know.

    US Naval Intelligence had no scruples whatever. They gunned Yamamoto down without hesitation. Sometimes you wish you could switch the commanders around and end all wars early.

  144. Franz says:
    @Quinn

    You sound pretty normie.

    If less killing for dubious reasons makes me normies, SO BE IT!

  145. Franz says:
    @charlesoconnell

    Yep, wheels within wheels are always turning. And my guess is Z knew he was never getting out on his own terms, so why not money? And that’s all he’s got on his mind now.

  146. @John Johnson

    Which would be just as suicidal and stupid as any nuclear attack from either side….which means the same MADD standoff that has existed since the 1970s.

    Finland and Sweden are full members of NATO and not wannabes. There is no trial period.

    The USA would not retaliate in the case of Sweden or Finland being nuked. Same with Poland, etc. The USA would not open itself up to retaliatory nuclear strikes on the homeland just to defend the honor of the craters formerly known as Sweden, Finland, Poland, etc. Being members of NATO means nothing in that context. The so-called “nuclear umbrella” is a lie, as should be obvious.

    • Agree: Kingsmeg
    • Thanks: Annacath
  147. @peterAUS

    The party with the least leverage absorbs the cost. The only people who care about the territorial integrity of Ukraine are the leaders of the EU, who are fanatics. Unfortunately for them, the EU is an expensive theatrical production, not a polity.

    The EU will be managed out of the Ukraine.

  148. Anon[149] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin needs to make declaration…

    Truth or War

    Russia agrees to halt the SMO on one condition only…

    That ALL TRUTH is admitted by the ENTIRE WEST.

    Or… War will continue to it’s inevitable conclusion.

    The following TRUTHS must be admitted.

    1. The US Obama administration organized 2014 theft of Ukraine.

    2. All Kiev regimes since 2014 have been illegitimate.

    3. Same regimes started war by bombing their own citizens.

    4. Crimea had every right to declare as part of Russia.

    5. Donetsk and Lugansk, same as 4 above.

    6. Kherson and Zaparozhye, same as 4 above.

    7. All Oblast borders are as before 2014 for Novorossiya.

    8. The West stole over $300 billion from Russia and it must be returned with interest.

    9. All responsibility for war lies in USA and EU.

    10. Minsk agreements were a farce from standpoint of West / Ukraine honoring them.

    11. All rebuilding Ukraine including 5 Russian Oblasts are responsibility of guilty West.

    12. Damage within pre-2014 Russia is also responsibility of guilty West.

    13. Sanctions against Russia were illegal acts of war, and need to be reversed.

    14. Damages from illegal sanctions must be paid by West.

    15. Referendums in all remaining Ukraine Oblasts must be held and adhered to.

    16. NATO is a criminal organization and must disband,

    17. Nord Stream sabatoge by USA / UK must be made good by perpetrators.

    18. One Trillion $ fine paid by USA / UK / EU for associated economic damages to Russia.

    19. All USA forces must be removed from EU or within 500 miles of Russian borders.

    20. All USA / UK / Israeli nuclear weapons are illegal must be dismantled.

    All truths.

    Admit them and adhere…

    Or face War to finish.

  149. @Hulkamania

    I guess, that would be the test. While dignity is of value, its not about dignity. It’s a very practical matter.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  150. geokat62 says:

    Trump Makes Good

    It seems the original title got truncated somehow…

    Trump Makes Good Shabbos Goy

    • Agree: NeverTrustaWizard
  151. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Putin needs to make declaration…

    Truth or War

    Russia agrees to halt the SMO on one condition only…

    That ALL TRUTH is admitted by the ENTIRE WEST.

    Or… War will continue to it’s inevitable conclusion.

    how about ALL TRUTH be admitted by BOTH SIDES

    Because in that case, neither side would comply.

    Consider the underlying causes of the war. The rift between the Russian-speaking people in the east, and the ethnic Ukrainians in the west.

    It goes back to the Bolshevik revolution, and through WWII and its aftermath.

    There’s a lot there, but to make things simple, lets just consider the Holodomor, literally “death by hunger”, and the 7 to 10 million souls who lost their life’s to this (( sadistic, genocidal horror)). A horror imposed on the people of Ukraine, and others, whom Stalin and his Jewish goons had slated for liquidation, because they were capable and independent and flourished due to their ability and hard work.

    Starved to death by the millions, because they had no use for the Jewish supremacist commie slavery.

    The crux of the matter is: that Putin’s Russia insists that any Ukrainians, who fought the Red Army during those horrific times – like the surviving family members of the Holodomor, who took up arms alongside the Germans to liberate Ukraine from that Soviet, genocidal fiend – were evil ‘traitors’ and ‘Nazis’ because they fought against the Red Army.

    Let that sink in..

    That is the narrative that Putin’s Russia demands Ukraine (and the other former Soviet states) adhere to. It is a monstrous lie, but that doesn’t stop Russia from demanding they all bow down to that lie.

    And that is the deep, underlying cause of the current conflict. And the TRUTH that Putin would rather continue the slaughter of untold millions of Russians and Ukrainians, rather than ever admit that TRUTH.

    Consider.. Today Russia insists that it had to take to arms, and march into Ukraine to liberate ethnic Russians who were facing persecution and death, by ZOG’s puppet government in Kiev.

    And that is all TRUE.

    But what it underscores, is the exact same thing that Germany did when it took to arms and marched into Ukraine to liberate the Ukrainian people who had just endured the Holodomor, by a malevolent regime hell bent on genocide.

    If it’s okay today for Russia to march in under arms, and liberate ethnic Russians from a repressive regime… (and it is)..

    then why wasn’t it just as laudable for Germany to march in under arms and liberate ethnic Ukrainians from a repressive and genocidal regime, eh?

    If Russia liberated Crimea and eastern Ukraine from a repressive regime, (and they did),

    then it was just as justified, (even a million times more so), for Germany to liberate the menaced people of Ukraine and Estonia and other states, who had been overrun by the Bolshevik/Soviet genocidal regime.

    All of this is a no-brainer for anyone who’s studied the issue. Ukrainians died in horrific ways under the Soviets, and yet today’s Russia insists that they should be grateful for that.

    Talk about an intolerable pall of evil over their lands, and that evil has reigned supreme for generations, crushing the spirit of the Ukrainian and Polish and Latvian and all the other people who suffered under that sadistic Jewish supremacist lie.

    Now, today, they’re saying ‘we’ve had enough of the lies!

    ‘We are no longer going to tolerate the lie that the Red Army liberated us’.

    ‘Fuck you Putin and Lavrov, if you think we’re going back to those lies’.

    Now, if Putin could simply see that in our modern world, with the Internet and so forth, that those kind of 20th century lies are no longer enforceable, and that all Russia has to do, is admit that the Red Army never liberated anyone, and that millions of Russians also perished or suffered under the ((Bolshevik regime))..

    ..then all the people in that part of the world can finally move on. And make common cause to repudiate the globalist, financial fiend that has the ((Western world)) by the ‘hair of the head’, and is currently doing another genocide in Gaza.

    This is what we should all be opposed to, once Russia and its neighbors can finally lay to rest their generations-long hatreds, all based on Jew-lies.

    Let’s let the TRUTH reign for once. The TRUTH will set us all free.

    • Agree: Annacath
  152. @EliteCommInc.

    We already have a rough test, with the case of the oreshnik missile. From the perspective of the USA, Russia informed them that they would be firing it, but the USA had no way of knowing what it was, whether it held a nuclear warhead, or what the target was. Their radars would have shown a ballistic missile fired on a trajectory towards western Europe. That’s all of the information they had. Aside from that, they would’ve just had to take Russia’s word for it that this wasn’t a nuke and that it was meant for a target in the Ukraine. With midcourse trajectory alterations, it could have just as easily been sent somewhere else, like Poland. What was the response from the USA to this potentially nuclear-armed ballistic missile potentially heading for Poland? Nothing. No attempt at interception. They didn’t even send up a couple of jets as a token show of “readiness” or anything. They were just fully prepared to allow whatever the target was to eat this mystery missile and its mystery payload.

  153. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @N. Joseph Potts

    This is Paul Bennett. After I edit, Shamir often adds things he’s thought about overnight. And then he immediately submits it to UNZ. So that’s not on me. In his defense, his English is not that bad. Certainly “on the stake” is understandable. if imperfectly formed. It’s just vernacular. He often submits articles in Russian and what we get to see is what the translator comes up with. And it’s pretty good. And it’s getting better every year.

    Most people can ignore language discrepancies and focus on the gravy and the whoppers contained in the article. Some people can actually evaluate the message the author is attempting to share. Shamir’s message is always positive, always Christian, always educated, and always Euro-centric. It’s nice. I like it. That’s why I edit for him. I enjoy his articles and I want to make them as understandable as possible so that everyone can see it the way I do.

    • Thanks: israel shamir
    • Replies: @N. Joseph Potts
  154. @Anon

    I like all your points but will Russia be able or willing to enforce them all?

    However, I don’t quite get

    20. All USA / UK / Israeli nuclear weapons are illegal must be dismantled.

    What about French, Russian, etc. nukes? Why are USA nukes illegal but Russian ones are not? After all USA was the first to develop nuclear weapons. What criteria do you use to declare USA nukes illegal?

  155. anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @israel shamir

    Russia supplied Iran with air defence and with missile technology.

    You don’t say. Are you channeling Pepe the pen for hire and his “Russia shotdown F35s” bs? Have you Russians no shame at all???

    An Iranian official has made unprecedented allegations against Russia, accusing it of providing information to Israel on air defense sites.

    Mohammad Sadr, a member of Iran’s Expediency Discernment Council, reportedly said in press statements on Sunday evening that “Russia provided Israel with information about Iran’s air defense sites.”
    He added that “this war proved the strategic alliance with Moscow is worthless,” referring to the 12-day conflict between Iran and Israel last June.

    https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/08/25/iranian-official-accuses-russia-of-providing-intel-on-air-defense-sites-to-israel-

    Your fans may be idiots but not everyone who reads TUR is that stupid. Your “Deep State” comment was to smokescreen the fairly obvious fact that Putin used Iran as a bargaining chip vis-a-vis the Ukraine “SMO”.

    Should we post the picture of Putty Putt with a tiny hat kissing some wall to drive the point home, “Israel” Shamir?

    • Replies: @israel shamir
    , @gT
  156. @Robert Bruce

    The communists are allowing criminals free reign in the cities Trump is deploying the National guard in. Its a good idea. How low is your IQ? Its amazing how many of you autistic people think you can make blank statements with nothing to back it up as if you are statesmen with gravitas. You are nobody and your claim that Trump has been tapped to bring down the USA is retarded.

    You are the joke.

    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
  157. @Rurik

    Today Russia insists that it had to take to arms, and march into Ukraine to liberate ethnic Russians who were facing persecution and death, by ZOG’s puppet government in Kiev.

    People are tired of reading this phony victim-card sob story that only became a part of Russia’s war propaganda repertoire after the military coup attempt in Kiev had failed. It is either a complete fabrication or a wild exaggeration. If it had been true, and Russia had seriously been concerned about it, then it could have simply presented the case to the United Nations and requested limited authorization under the R2P doctrine. This was not done. Also, if that had been the main issue, then there would not have been a reason to invade from Belarus.

    Just because some people living outside Russian territory who are citizens of another country but speak Russian does not entitle Russia to invade the sovereign rights of those countries on behalf of these Russian speaking individuals. This kind of expansive chauvinism is exactly the same kind of approach that Israel tries to take with regard to Jews living outside Israel. An analogy would be Mexico invading the United States on behalf of US citizens who speak Mexican dialects because they might be upset that the US decided to make English the official language.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  158. @Hulkamania

    The USA would not retaliate in the case of Sweden or Finland being nuked. Same with Poland, etc. The USA would not open itself up to retaliatory nuclear strikes on the homeland just to defend the honor of the craters formerly known as Sweden, Finland, Poland, etc. Being members of NATO means nothing in that context.

    Being NATO members gives them article 5 protection which means it would be considered an attack against all members.

    Why would Russia risk testing that clause with a nuclear attack? What would be the point? Or do you just like to fantasize about more mass murder from the dwarf Tsar who said he needed to attack Ukraine to stop the expansion of NATO? Well that goal obviously failed.

    Let’s say for sake of argument that NATO decided to respond with a conventional attack.

    Well they could wipe out Russia’s remaining oil industry with Tomahawk missiles.

    Ukraine has been taking out oil refineries with drones and Russia is clearly low on S-300s.

    NATO has a few thousand Tomahawk missiles in Europe. They could easily crash Russia’s economy with such an attack. Russia already has gas lines in some areas due to refinery attacks. As I said earlier this is like WW2 where one belligerent is not keeping an eye on the oil.

    Have a look at Russia’s top exports for yourself:
    Mineral fuels and oils

    $254.7 billion

    63.8%

    Precious stones and metals

    $20.6 billion

    5.2%

    Iron and Steel

    $15 billion

    3.8%
    https://www.tradeimex.in/blogs/russia-top-10-exports

    They are not a Slavic version of America or Germany as many here imagine. They have far less manufacturing and depend heavily on oil and gas sales. Disney makes more profit from streaming than Russia does from manufacturing exports.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
    , @Hulkamania
  159. Rurik says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    If it had been true, and Russia had seriously been concerned about it, then it could have simply presented the case to the United Nations and requested limited authorization under the R2P doctrine.

    really?

    You’re here on TUR, trying to sling that idiotic horsehit?

    does not entitle Russia to invade

    based on what?

    The “Rules Based Order”?, that allowed NATO to bomb Serbia into submission, so a narco-human-trafficking terrorist organization could claim an ancient part of Serbia?

    Or some supremacist Jews to slaughter Palestinian villagers and steal their lands?

    Either there is a principled adherence to the “rules”, of the so-called Rules Based Order, or it’s all a fucking joke.

    An analogy would be Mexico invading the United States on behalf of US citizens who speak Mexican dialects because they might be upset that the US decided to make English the official language.

    if Mexico had the military strength, to do exactly that, and take back the part of the U.S. that they consider theirs, I guarantee you that they would do exactly that.

    Any why not? Because of the Rules Based Order?

    Lol

    ZOG has spent the last several decades mocking and flouting the rules, of their so-called ‘Rules Based Order’.

    Russia has simply decided enough, is enough.

    And I’m glad they have. We’ve all had it with ZOG’s lies and hypocrisy.

    That’s why Russia today is more or less everyone’s champion, because there’s hardly a nation left on this planet that hasn’t’ been menaced by the so-called Rules Based Order, breaking those rules whenever it suits them. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Serbia, Panama, Iran, Palestine, Russia, and on and on..

    We’re all glad that Russia has told the ((global scumbag)), to eat their ‘Rules Based Order’, and suck on a Kinzhal while they’re at it.

    I just hate to see white Christians slaughtering white Christians, as ZOG laughs its way to the bank.

    Russia and Eastern Europe need to bury the hatchet, and lay all those WWII wounds to rest.

    Killing each other is exactly what NATO / ZOG wants them to do.

    Wasn’t WWII enough?

    (and I’m not asking you that, Has Been, if that isn’t obvious ; )

  160. peterAUS says:
    @Alastair Rockwell

    You appear to know something about the issue and have balanced approach to it. Rare combo in the Clown World, especially online.
    And, apparently, don’t mind putting some time/effort on it.

    So, a question:
    If you were in Trump’s position, how would you try to solve the problem?

    If nothing else, could be an interesting mental exercise.

    Now, asking one line question and expecting a thesis is rude; this is supposed to be a chat not an interrogation. So, here is my, extremely brief and crude, intro:
    I am in the Oval Office.
    My objective:
    Russia gets Crimea AND those two oblasts. Not four.
    Russia withdraws from the rest.
    Ukraine does not get into NATO.
    Ukraine does get into EU.
    Ukraine scales down it’s armed forces AND reforms them along ANZAC lines. Package good enough to prevent any further SMO. Not good enough to try to retake the lost territory. Easy to do and prefer not discussing particulars there.
    Russian language gets restored to where it was removed from.
    The lines of separation are manned/patrolled by joined OPs/patrols: Russian and NATO. Top tier of both. USAF and 82 are RRF/backup with elements from certain British and ANZAC outfits.

    Now, Russia/Russians get security. Ukraine gets economic opportunities. Isn’t that what this thing has been all along ?!
    Of course not. I know that. But I have power to enforce what they’ve all been spouting in public about. If…when…they try to pull some shit I’ll escalate. Not as Trump; I will and Putin will know that. Kyev too. Takes one to understands the another, or something like that.
    That’s for TPTBs.

    Now for the masses.
    The carnage stops. The world of economic opportunities opens. Cultural environment is nice.
    Isn’t that what people there truly want? Everybody happy?
    Of course not.
    There are other forces at play here, coming from Id, and if those fucked up Krall civilization what can one expect in that part of Eastern Europe.
    I know that. But I have power to enforce what they’ve been blabbing about.And I’ll recreate concentration camps for all those getting in my way on the western side of the line of separation if I have.

    I know how this all sounds.
    So we’ll have more nuanced, sophisticated, much more balanced, blah, blah, solution delivered to us by related TPTBs. Some time in the future. Before 2nd coming, hopefully.

    Your turn, if you will, please.

    • Thanks: A123
  161. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:

    Israel shamir, like other jews, is a genocidal zionist pro a pedophile trump. The rapist has been good to this genocidal tribe. This rapist has been good to the genocidal zionist Jews. Trump is an assassin warmonger and a thief. There is NO peace in his plan only to bomb, assassin, terrorism to attack countries and steal their resources. They cannot live on their own resources and he uses terror to force others to ‘invest’ in the whore house, you call ‘america’. He is trying to attack and overthrow the government in Venezuela using FAKE accusation for his warmongering criminal and terrorist action, Drug trafficking, which is a trade of the rapist Jewish mafia tribe like Trump, in order to steal the country’s energy resources which is the largets in order to feed gullible Americans and fund the genocidal Jews’ wars. Death to evil empire, death to genocidal assassins and their supporters.
    Don’t trust a word by the genocidal Jews pro a rapist pedophile member of the Jewish mafia tribe who is complicit in the genocide in Gaza, trump and his jewish financiers. Death to them all.

  162. @Been_there_done_that

    In 2013, The MAJORITY of Ukies voted for the guy who promised to and was improving trade and diplomatic relations with Russia.

    Then the US, Britain and Isn’trael decided that wasn’t acceptable and created a coup out of whole cloth

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  163. @John Johnson

    Still beating the “gas station with nukes” drum? Pathetic.
    New material, Please!

    • Thanks: Notsofast
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  164. @Anon

    As an editor, I get gobsmacked by my clients like this CONSTANTLY.
    Such, then, is the danger of signing your work. I don’t.
    You have my sympathy. But I would desist from that signing. Why WOULD you do it? It ISN’T even quite true, as you admit. It’s “false advertising” that just puts you in a bad light anyway.

  165. A123 says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    The biggest issue to deal with is that European Globalists will want the opportunity for a Round 2 some years down the line. Merkel admitted that she intended the Minsk Agreements as a deception to arm up Ukraine.

    There are a number of good points in your proposal. I would suggest some changes though.

    Russia gets Crimea AND those two oblasts. Not four.
    Russia withdraws from the rest.

    To avoid either side having to publicly withdraw, something similar to the “line of contact” will be the new border. This actually makes more sense for Russia than the original 2 oblasts concept. It provides:

    • Defense and logistics land bridge to support Crimea
    • Dnieper River access to refill the Crimean Canal system
    • ZNPP to power industry in the area

    Perhaps there will be a land swap where Russia obtains a chunk of the Kherson west bank. That would allow them to rebuild the Kakhovka Dam that was destroyed by Kiev forces. Ukraine probably wants more space around the city of Zaporizhzhia. Both sides have something to gain.

    The lines of separation are manned/patrolled by joined OPs/patrols: Russian and NATO. Top tier of both. USAF and 82 are RRF/backup with elements from certain British and ANZAC outfits.

    Given the risk of accidents or false flag operations, I am dubious that European boots on the ground would be acceptable. Is there a large non-NATO 3rd party both sides could accept? And, would be willing to participate?

    IMHO it seems more likely no external ground troops will be invited in. Formal military neutrality, no foreign troops/bases, woulkd be locked in via the peace treaty.

    A wide DMZ keeping forces apart would be the primary security. This could be backed up by unarmed surveillance flights and other technical measures. USAF could monitor both sides if agreed, using planes from Poland or points further West.

    Civilians and limited numbers of basic police would be permitted in the DMZ. Other than those with jobs tied to the land, I would expect these areas to remain sparsely populated.
    ____

    The issues are solvable and the Ukrainian people want to negotiate. The problem is that Globalist European elites are running Zelensky as their puppet. It is hard to see a straightforward way to replace him, so things are stuck in limbo as long as Germany, France, and the UK are willing to pick up the tab.

    PEACE 😇

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  166. peterAUS says:
    @A123

    I would suggest some changes though.
    To avoid either side having to publicly withdraw, something similar to the “line of contact” will be the new border.
    Perhaps there will be a land swap where Russia obtains a chunk of the Kherson west bank.

    O.K.
    Not in my book, though. Those two only. Plus Crimea. Not one millimeter more. No swaps. BOTH sides will do very nicely executed withdrawals. In timely manner, of course. Three weeks. Or I’ll bomb those places. With MOABs, among other ordnance. 5 minutes after 3 weeks timeline. Will start with Ukrainians. 5 minutes later will do the Russian unit. One battallion command post by one, one after another. In half an hour move upwards. Brigade’s HQs.

    Given the risk of accidents or false flag operations, I am dubious that European boots on the ground would be acceptable.

    Nobody is asking anybody for acceptable or not. Tier one types will do. With USAF support on tap. From Apaches to B-2s. From 23 mm chaingun to main bunker busters. MOABs too, of course.

    Is there a large non-NATO 3rd party both sides could accept? And, would be willing to participate?

    Nobody is asking anyone to accept anything or not. The will to execute is coming from one place only: White House. Keyword “execute”.
    And there is no need to any large anything. Tier one troops will do nicely. Teams of 4. With drones and solid links to USAF they’ll do nicely. Call and laser anything/anybody not complying/interfering/obstructing. Air assets will deliver the goods. Clear by fire, check, move or repeat. Next checkpont.

    Formal military neutrality, no foreign troops/bases, would be locked in via the peace treaty.

    O.K.
    Not in my book. Scaling down and reforming Ukraine’s armed AND paramilitary security forces will be done by US led task force. Manned by ANZACs. With sprinklings of tier one guys from GB, Canada, France and Germany in specialist roles. So they’ll definitely be foreign troops in their bases.
    Now, after the job is done is different matter altogether. One thing at the time, though.

    A wide DMZ keeping forces apart would be the primary security. This could be backed up by unarmed surveillance flights and other technical measures. USAF could monitor both sides if agreed, using planes from Poland or points further West.
    Civilians and limited numbers of basic police would be permitted in the DMZ. Other than those with jobs tied to the land, I would expect these areas to remain sparsely populated.

    Korea type would work nicely.

    Back to reality from fantasy world:

    …. things are stuck in limbo…

    Oh yes.

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    , @mulga mumblebrain
  167. @John Johnson

    Being NATO members gives them article 5 protection

    Which, again, means jack shit in this context.

    Well they could wipe out Russia’s remaining oil industry with Tomahawk missiles.

    No, they couldn’t. Tomahawks are as slow as molasses and would be no more difficult for Russia to defeat than any of the other dogshit low tech missiles in the West’s arsenal that they have been routinely defeating all along.

  168. peterAUS says:

    …..things are stuck in limbo as long as Germany, France, and the UK …..

    Yes and no.

    The most important element of my fantasy scenario is political will of US establishment.
    In that fantasy, ALL elements of that establishment (Congress, Senate AND Supreme Court) sign a document totally supporting the President.
    So, when he leaves the office nobody will be destroying him through legal system for all that death and destruction, NECESSARY to accomplish the objective.
    Ball park figure is around 1000 dead members of Ukrainian and Russian armed forces, each, AND, the most important, around 2000 dead, mostly Ukrainian, civilians. Of those 2000 more than half would be women AND children. The price, bottom line, would be around…..500 dead children at the age below 13. Blown to pieces by the order of POTUS.
    If you can’t picture how that would transpire we have nothing to chat about here.
    So, when the President stops being protected by that office he won’t be destroyed by those 500 little corpses.

    We know that won’t happen, can’t, ever, in this Universe. Clown World type, that is.

    No prob. The other side is just about to collapse/run out of men/material/will to fight/whatever if “we” keep this going on. Any …what…..week now? Or it’s a month? Year ?!?

    All good.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @A123
  169. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    500 is just….mind reels….anybody even thinking about it is a psychopath.

    Yeah?

    During the firebombing of Tokyo around 100 000 civilians were burned/boiled to death. Lucky ones suffocated.

    What would be the number of children in that mess of charcoal ?
    5? 50? 500 ? 550?
    I’d say, conservatively, 20 000.

    Nonsense, isn’t it ?
    Let’s ask AI, the new paragon of knowledge and wisdom.

    …..specific numbers for children alone are not well-documented…..

    No?!?

    Makes sense, of course.

    Ah, one more thing I forgot. In that fantasy case not only US President would be protected by signed documents of those three, but anyone executing (pun intended) those orders.

    So, 4 years from now those troopers won’t be dragged through the courts and destroyed.

  170. A123 says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    To avoid either side having to publicly withdraw, something similar to the “line of contact” will be the new border.

    Perhaps there will be a land swap where Russia obtains a chunk of the Kherson west bank.

    Not in my book, though. Those two only. Plus Crimea. Not one millimeter more. No swaps. BOTH sides will do very nicely executed withdrawals. In timely manner, of course. Three weeks. Or I’ll bomb those places. With MOABs, among other ordnance.

    Nobody is asking anybody for acceptable or not

    The Russians believe they are in an existential fight for survival. Whether you agree or disagree with that belief, you must 100% grasp that is what they believe. It inexorably shapes their inevitable response to your proposed actions.

    ==========================================
    “When you surround an army. Leave an outlet free.
    Do not press a desperate foe too hard.”
     
    — Sun Tzu — The Art of War —
    ==========================================

    What your scenario could easily yield is this:

    • You use MOAB.
    • They go thermonuclear total forces — 5,000+ warheads.
    • Too late, you realize your mistake.
    • Human life as we know it ends.

    It doesn’t even matter if you retaliate. Although, based on your attitude, I am sure you would burn the planet even more.

    If you emotionally want to deny this possibility — Remember the other side is terrified and has every reason to distrust European intentions. Are you 100% sure they wouldn’t act this way? Would you throw the dice when humanity is on the line?

    The long history of human conflict shows that are 2 ways for a peace to reliably hold:

    -1- A deal is acceptable to both sides
    -2- One side is forced to unconditional surrender

    Do you want #2?

    Can Russia eventually force Globalist Europe (cut off by Populist MAGA U.S.) to unconditionally capitulate? Probably. Germany, France, and the UK have weak economies and pathetic leaders. However, there is a great deal of avoidable bloodshed to reach thus point.

    The Ukrainian people are willing to go for #1, an acceptable deal. It is worth repeating the proof for this fact.

     

     

    PEACE 😇

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  171. A123 says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    …..things are stuck in limbo as long as Germany, France, and the UK …..

    Yes and no.

    The most important element of my fantasy scenario is political will of US establishment.
    In that fantasy, ALL elements of that establishment (Congress, Senate AND Supreme Court) sign a document totally supporting the President.

    Let us accept your framework.

    • Trump is no longer constrained by RINO’s — McConnell, Tillis, Graham, Cornyn
    • Trump sides with Putin
    • Trump forces Europe to capitulates

    I accept your terms!

    We know that won’t happen, can’t, ever, in this Universe.

    You are correct. Trump is President, not God Emperor.

    PEACE 😇

  172. peterAUS says:
    @A123

    Remember the other side is terrified and has every reason to distrust European intentions.

    Disagree with former and agree with later.

    Are you 100% sure they wouldn’t act this way?

    Yes I am.

    What I am also 100 % sure is the conflict shall go on for foreseable future along the lines we’ve seen so far and similar intensity.

    BTW, we’ll skip further…discussion…about the topic.
    Going in circles etc. The same as in real. Boring, actually.

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    , @Derer
  173. @peterAUS

    This sort of pestiferous lickspittle blowhard is ubiquitous on the Arsetralian Right. Always keen to be Uncle Satan’s boot-licking ‘deputy’. Never saw an Imperial blood-bath they didn’t want to join.

  174. @peterAUS

    Now, Russia/Russians get security. Ukraine gets economic opportunities. Isn’t that what this thing has been all along ?!

    No. Russia was never threatened by Ukraine and DPR/LPR hostilities were at an all time low. Slavs were more likely to accidentally drown than die in separatist fighting from 2018-2021. I can back that with UN data while Putin’s defenders still haven’t named the “mass shelling event” they read about on pro-Putin blogs.

    This war is just Russian imperialism with poor excuses.

    That is why so many Putin defenders get frustrated in an open forum.

    They turn hostile when they realize they are unable to back some poor excuse from a pro-Putin blogger.

    The best explanation is that Putin wants to go out as a conqueror. Of course he doesn’t like NATO but he was lying about it being a primary motivation. If he really cared about the expansion of NATO then he would offer to trade land in exchange for the removal of Finland. No such offer has been made and he in fact never mentions Finland. Well that contradicts previous speeches where he railed against “missiles on da border” without explanation.

    Putin is just plain full of shit and everyone knows it. We just have dishonest defenders that can’t admit they support Russian imperalism.

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  175. @Been_there_done_that

    Has Been lies, with relish, as ever. The people of the Donbass had suffered 15,000 murdered by Banderite shelling by 2022, and the bombardment had increased prior to an Operation Storm-like attack to cleanse the region of Russian ‘coloradoes’ (beetles) as your orc darlings call them. And what sort of lying cunt thinks that we do not know that ANY approach to the UN would have been vetoed by the USA. What a stinking hypocrite you are.
    The hypocrisy reaches the Heavens when he accuses Russia of invading a ‘sovereign’ country. The Ukraine has been a US puppet regime since the putsch in 2014, and if Russia had done nothing, God knows how many thousands would have been slaughtered by the Banderite orcs. Our own little Lord Haw-Haw.

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  176. @Anon

    Kiev and Odessa MUST be liberated, too. Let the orcs have Galicia-until the Poles take it off them.

  177. peterAUS says:
    @John Johnson

    Three options:
    1. You are dumb.
    2. You have reading problem.
    3. You are just doing the usual smooth thing. You know, get some input to produce output you are actually interested in.

    I tend to think it’s 3rd. “Putin bad” etc.
    Understandable.

    Now, if 2nd, read very slowly and carefully:

    Now, Russia/Russians get security. Ukraine gets economic opportunities. Isn’t that what this thing has been all along ?!
    Of course not. I know that.

    See, after that first paragraph that riled you there is second. There are two sentences there. I put the important one in bold here. Very slowly read and re-read all that again.
    Hope that helps.

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    , @John Johnson
  178. A123 says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    What I am also 100 % sure is the conflict shall go on for foreseable future along the lines we’ve seen so far and similar intensity.

    I concur.

    New U.S. money is going to be ZERO. Germany, France, and the UK will pick up the slack for awhile. Unless there is a lucky break, nothing will change until the European Empire hits a financial wall.

    BTW, we’ll skip further…discussion…about the topic.
    Going in circles etc. The same as in real. Boring, actually.

    As you wish. In my short, closing remarks — I note that:

    • Putin is actually a *moderate* Russian figure. However, he will not allow himself to be out flanked by domestic hardliners.

    • Any attempt to force an unacceptable solution that does not grasp Russia’s minimal needs is hopeless… And, could backfire spectacularly.

    PEACE 😇

  179. @Rurik

    That’s why Russia today is more or less everyone’s champion, because there’s hardly a nation left on this planet that hasn’t’ been menaced by the so-called Rules Based Order, breaking those rules whenever it suits them.

    You expose your delusional hallucinations with the term “everyone’s champion“. Hardly anyone in Europe, at the periphery of which these military attacks are occurring, supports Russia’s actions. This is the case across the representative political spectrum. Only a few fanatics favor Russia’s war. The sentiment you expressed could be encapsulated as:

    It is so reprehensible what Jews and Israelis have been doing to civilians, therefore Russia needs to do it too. The world needs to experience even more conflict, violence and mass murder.

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  180. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    Ah, one more thing.
    I could tolerate two trying to play the usual TUR thing. Not more.

    So, from now on I’ll reply just to those who, actually, wrote what and how they would do if they were POTUS to handle this issue. As in my original comment to “Alistair”.
    The rest I’ll ignore.

    I am sure that rest will’ll be more than able to, as usual, get into passionate exchanges with their usual…interlocutors. The joy, a?

    All good.

  181. @James Scott

    Crime in DC was down 30%, now he wants to go to Chicago and Baltimore? You are the retarded one, as this is just like the boiled frog analogy become reality. You are supporting this because he is your guy, but his actions, starting with ICE and now bringing in troops to various blue cities, is being done to condition us to a new normal. He is getting us ready for when the big crash comes and people are going to be rather angry.

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  182. @Dirk_Gently00

    Your comments have all proven to be false or misleading. If you repeat them again we will know that you are just a paid shill or an idiot (or both), of which there are plenty of others who post nonsense in these threads.

    In 2013, The MAJORITY of Ukies voted for the guy who promised to and was improving trade and diplomatic relations with Russia.

    You are confused about the year and must be referring to the presidential election of 2010, which was very close and therefore contested because of suspicious irregularities in the eastern part of the country. The competitor, Tymoshenko, who challenged the results, was subsequently jailed by Yanukovych. Since the vast majority of the country’s population favored closer economic relations with Europe, Yanukovych publicly supported this proposal too during the summer of 2013, when Yatsenyuk announced his candidacy for the presidency as the leading contender for elections scheduled for 2014. After Putin interceded, because he did not like the proposed deal, as he acknowledged in his interview with Carlson, Yanukovych, who had obviously been coerced and presumably also bribed, unexpectedly reversed himself and cancelled the planned agreement with the European Union, to favor closer relations with Russia instead. This announcement prompted spontaneous demonstrations at Kiev’s Maidan Square in November 2013, which continued for three months.

    Then the US, Britain and Isn’trael decided that wasn’t acceptable and created a coup out of whole cloth

    There was no coup or putsch in Kiev during February 2014. Yanukovych fled the country when he realized he had lost the support of many in his own party, and legal parliamentary votes formally stripped him of his powers, then elected an interim leader, Yatsenyuk, prior to the early elections. The lie of the alleged coup was widely propagated in the context of Russia’s attempted military coup in 2022, immediately after its invasion, to convey an impression of equivalency toward gullible people as a lame justification for their planned violent overthrow, which was thwarted by popular resistance, because Russian troops were repelled outside Kiev’s borders and were unable to encircle the city.

  183. Derer says:
    @Quinn

    …if Putin wanted to end this quickly and efficiently he could have,

    End it quickly would not reduce the Ukies military strength…doing it methodically steady will do it – 1.7 mil so far. Criminal stupidity of Z gang.

  184. Derer says:
    @peterAUS

    What I am also 100 % sure is the conflict shall go on for foreseable future along the lines we’ve seen so far and similar intensity.

    I am also 100% sure that you do not know anything about the Ukie military man-shortage (1.7 mil dead). Reduce the Ukie military is one of the Russian strategy.

  185. skrik says:
    @Rurik

    Disclosure: I don’t pretend to be an historian. I suspect that you have a discontinuity here.

    [search input:]
    ai period of bolshevik rule in russia

    [response:]
    In 1918, RSDLP(b) became All-Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and remained so until 1925

    [search input:]
    ai when was the holodomor

    [response:]
    The Holodomor, also known as the Ukrainian famine, was a mass famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians

    What the ‘usual narrative’ presents us with is the WW2 German attack on Russia, and the ~27mio casualty result is what your ‘disputed’ artwork commemorates, so going back to the Bolsheviks and Holodomor may well be a ‘step too far back’.

    Posit: Putin gives more weight to WW2 than prior, and probably dislikes ‘fellow travellers’ who supported/aided the WW2 German attack.

    Just saying. rgds

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  186. @anon

    Al Arabie is a US-run quasi-Arab media. They are supposed to mislead. The US President – and many others – kissed the Wall. So, disregard these insinuations – Russia helped Iran with air defence, and Iran is grateful.

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  187. Judenfrei says:
    @Notsofast

    I LOLD at simultaneous complain about terrorism and call for terrorism in response. Are you circumcised one?

    claimed credit for the terrorist murder of Dasha Dougina

    Highly questionable statement. First, it was a total failure and, second, the physical removal of that minor Pootin shill was a collateral damage. Clearly, the “””philosopher””” was the target.

    Only overwhelming Russian nepotism made that failed operation any noticeable.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  188. @peterAUS

    The lines of separation are manned/patrolled by joined OPs/patrols: Russian and NATO. Top tier of both. USAF and 82 are RRF/backup with elements from certain British and ANZAC outfits.

    Didn’t Russia and Turkey have joint patrols in Idlib, and how did that work out?

    I think the following 3 points made by A123 are valid:

    • Defense and logistics land bridge to support Crimea
    • Dnieper River access to refill the Crimean Canal system
    • ZNPP to power industry in the area

    so I can’t Russians giving up any of their territorial gains in Kherson and Zaporozhia oblasts, although they could give up on claiming those oblasts in their totality.

    Whatever compromise Russia agrees to, UK and certain EU players will try to subvert against Russia but then Russia will try to use that subversion in its own interest, and we get into all sorts of underhand games.

    It all gets complicated. Poles hate the Banderite Nazis but they hate Russia too, and although they would like to use the former against the latter, they worry it may come back to bite them.

    Hungary and Slovakia would like to have unhindered links to Russia for their energy and other needs. They like Trump and want good relations with him but don’t want to be blackmailed and threatened into huge energy costs like the rest of the EU just because Trump wants it.

    Also, a lot depends on what will happen in the EU in the future and what kind of parties will be power.

    I gather your scenario is regarding some deal in the immediate future which could later turn into a long term peace … or maybe not.

  189. @mulga mumblebrain

    Wow, what a precise number you pulled out of the air:

    The people of the Donbass had suffered 15,000 murdered by Banderite shelling by 2022…

    You have been called upon to provide credible documentation for such exorbitant claims, but of course you didn’t and can’t. You might just as well have claimed that exactly six million were murdered.

    …thinks that we do not know that ANY approach to the UN would have been vetoed by the USA.

    This is funny: We are supposed to believe that Russia supposedly had a legitimate claim and request but refrained from submitting it for UN consideration because the United States might have vetoed it? That would have been the least concern, perhaps even a bonus for Russia, if had highlighted the alleged plight of so many people in Donbas that need to be protected – at least if it had been true. Your story just doesn’t add up, but apparently you don’t care because you must think there are too many uncritical readers who might believe it.

  190. gT says:
    @anon

    Russians indeed have no shame. Jews were responsible for the burning of those Russians in that building in Odessa. Even the inflamatories used came from Israel. In fact, you could say that since Jews control the USA and therefore NATO the whole Ukrainian debacle from 2014 was caused by Jews.

    Furthermore most of the leadership of Ukraine since 2014 has been Jewish. So Jews are responsible for the deaths of Russians in Donbas and Lugansk until Putin finally decided to enter the conflict in 2022 after discovering the war was coming to Russia anyway after capturing several militants involved int eh attempted coup in Kazakhstan and questioning them. Jews are responsible for the 1.5 million Ukrainian (actually most of them are Russians living in Ukraine) deaths since 2022.

    So Jews killed over a million Russians already and what does Putin do? Nothing! Putin does not want to touch even a single hair on a Jewish head as that Jewish hair is worth more than 1000 goyim lives. So not only Zelensky is never targeted, but no Jew in Ukraine is targeted, no matter how many Russians lives they have taken.

    Then comes Syria. Syria was always a thorn in Israel’s flesh and the US has always wanted to topple Syria. But Russia seems to have provided Syria with minimal support. With ISIS the leader was Jewish pretending to be Muslim and most of the C3 (command, control and communications) was handled by the US / NATO / Israel. Same with Ukraine now, all the C3 is handled by US, NATO and Israel. But with Syria it seems Russia left all the C3 to the Syrians themselves, and everyone knows that Arabs aren’t the brightest or the most reliable. Furthermore, every time Israel struck Syria, Syria was not allowed to respond in kind. So Syria was guaranteed to fall, and when Syria fell the shameless Russians all said just look at those guys, the Syrians, they threw down their weapons and ran, they didn’t even fight. So Russia gave Syria and Lebanon to Israel, Russia supports the plan for the Greater Israel.

    Now we come to Iran. Similar to Syria, Russia provided minimal support to Iran, just enough for Russia to say look, we are supporting Iran, but not enough for Iran to really threaten Israel. The same weaponry and tactics used to hit those Russian long range strategic bombers by Ukraine was used against Iran by Israel, but Russia once again refrained from taking any action against Israel. The US allowed Israel to bomb their Liberty ship and done nothing about it, and Russia allows Israel to kill Russians at will and does nothing about it.

    Russia is the Protector of the Tribe, no 2 ways about it, its definite.

    Putin even calls Israel a Russian speaking country. Russians form the backbone of the IDF killing civilians there in Gaza since most Jews are actually physically compromised and can’t do hard labour. So most of those killing children and shooting pregnant women in the stomach and raping who knows what in Gaza are Russian. Putin might complain about the Israeli’s killing Gazans, but most of the leadership of Europe also complain about that, as does Trump at times. Its just empty words.

  191. @Looger

    1) finance liberal joooo / donor class / media / USA

    2) pro-israel super duper Zionist joooo

    Maybe. But the line between these “two groups” is exceedingly blurry. Why does it so often seem to be a managed dialectic? I would argue that inscrutability and self contradiction do not weigh heavily in measuring Jewish action and intent. There are many paths up Mount What’s Best For The Jews.

    • Replies: @skrik
  192. Rurik says:
    @skrik

    thanks skrik,

    I’m hardly an historian either, not even close, but I don’t think I agree with AI that Bolshevism came to an end in 1925, but rather the founding philosophy, (genocidal slavery), continued more or less unabated from the advent of Bolshevism, until the end of the Soviet Union in 1991.

    IOW, ‘Bolshevism’ wasn’t replaced by the Soviet Union, but simply morphed its name from Bolsheviks to Soviets, without changing their ethos or methods.

    What the ‘usual narrative’ presents us with is the WW2 German attack on Russia, and the ~27mio casualty result..

    Yes, exactly like today’s ‘narrative’, that Putin invaded Ukraine in an unprovoked act of aggression.

    It is for me, a source of great irony, that the ((PTB)) who wrote the post-WWII narrative, which exonerated Stalin’s crimes, and blames everything on Hitler, is the exact same ((power structure)) that today is exonerating Ukraine’s crimes, and blames everything on Putin, even as in both cases, it was the same ((PTB)), who foisted both wars.

    Putin pays lip service to the Jewish narrative that Bolshevik / Soviet Russia was innocent, and Germany was to blame for everything.. But now the roles are reversed, and now Putin is on the receiving end of the ((PTB’s)) lies.

    I wonder if he ever muses on the irony of that.

    Posit: Putin gives more weight to WW2 than prior, and probably dislikes ‘fellow travellers’ who supported/aided the WW2 German attack.

    everyone likes to wallow in their own respective moral inscrutable purity and virtue.

    Particularly as the victims of the Bolshevik/Soviet atrocities are still enduring the pangs of those crimes.

    How much better if you can blame them for the crimes of the B/S era.

    ‘You people were ‘Nazis!’, you all deserved population transfers and gulags and relentless horrors, because you sided with the ‘Nazis!’, blah, blah..!

    It all ignores the fact that the B/S threat, came long before the advent of the National Socialists, which came about as a survival response to the very real and existential B/S threat.

    Nevertheless, I’m not going to be able to undo seventy years of propaganda, and forty eight thousand, seven hundred and ninety three Hollywood movies and TV shows, so there it is.

    rgds

  193. @peterAUS

    Use petty insults all you want but I can back my statements with actual quotes from Putin.

    Putin described unspecified missiles on the border as an unacceptable security threat and that NATO cannot move eastward. Here he is saying that in 2021:

    “The United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep. Is it an excessive requirement not to install shock systems at our house?

    “We want to ensure our security”, he said.

    “We put it straight: there must be no further expansion of NATO eastward.”

    – Putin in 2021

    https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-23/vladimir-putin-accuses-us-of-standing-with-missiles-on-our-doorstep

    Well if that was the case then he would be upset by Finland joining. He hasn’t demanded that Finland leave nor has he offered land to scale back the border to 2020. His most recent offer still requires Ukraine handing over land that Russia does not occupy. Land is the priority and not NATO.

    Which shows he is just plain full of shit and is trying to grab land.

    See, after that first paragraph that riled you there is second. There are two sentences there. I put the important one in bold here. Very slowly read and re-read all that again.
    Hope that helps.

    You didn’t agree it was Russian imperialism and you don’t explain how Ukraine gets economic opportunities. Which opportunities would those be? Admittance into the EU? That was not something Russia was opposing after they accepted a free Ukraine would exist. It isn’t a point of contention.

  194. Rurik says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Hardly anyone in Europe, at the periphery of which these military attacks are occurring, supports Russia’s actions.

    there is understandable distrust of Russia, because they refuse to repudiate the Soviet crimes, even as Russia suffered those crimes as well.

    It is so reprehensible what Jews and Israelis have been doing to civilians, therefore Russia needs to do it too. The world needs to experience even more conflict, violence and mass murder.

    this is stupid

    ZOG is responsible for both conflicts. Any idiot can see that.

    ZOG forced the war with Russia. Russia is simply responding to endless ZOG provocations, which is what Hamas was doing on Oct, 7th

    Which is what Iran has been doing since it threw out ZOG’s stooge in 1979.

    The whole world is basically responding to endless ZOG provocations. China, Russia, Venezuela, Lebanon, Syria, and on and on..

    ZOG is fomenting a civil war in Ireland, and the UK. ZOG is creating hate and strife and war wherever it can.

    If you can’t see that, it’s because either you’re very stupid, or you’re a mendacious POS.

  195. skrik says:
    @Rurik

    I thank you.

    Nevertheless, I’m not going to be able to undo seventy years of propaganda

    Bernays wrote the book in 1928, key quote:

    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”

    My bolding of the essential Bernays lie, and your ((PTB)) use that as ‘justification’ for violating our, we the people’s rights.

    Back to Putin, IMHO his non outright condemnation of the continuous [since 1897 to the current moment] mass-murdering monstering of Palestine and its hapless erstwhile legal owner/occupier natives damns him.

    PS Hohols citing holodomor as reason to hate Russia is one emerging theme among many in current Bernays-style propaganda.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  196. skrik says:
    @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    I would argue that inscrutability and self contradiction do not weigh heavily in measuring Jewish action and intent

    WYSIWYG = a fanatical, psychopathic/maniacal effort to exclusively possess all of Palestine. ((They)) deploy some perverse version of ‘might is right’ but [as every normal human knows] it’s irrevocably *wrong*; ((they)) can never achieve legitimacy, see [partial repeat]:

    UDHR *inalienable rights*:

    Article 3.
     •Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 17.
     •(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
     •(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property

    Then: UNSC242 = “inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war.”

    Note: The Palestinians *cannot* [legally] be dispossessed by force [nor can they even ‘give anything away’ under duress] = *all* Israel = illegal = rogue-regime [of vilest, conscious genociders] and must be stopped then disbanded.

    rgds

  197. @Rurik

    I don’t think I agree with AI that Bolshevism came to an end in 1925, but rather the founding philosophy, (genocidal slavery), continued more or less unabated from the advent of Bolshevism, until the end of the Soviet Union in 1991.

    Yes, the Isms are handed to us by “intelligentsia”-propaganda -manufacturing. Other than to create false definitions and controlled oppositions they are useless, and every good conversation must move quickly past them, laying waste to them by means of wholesome definitions agreed on by the interlocutors in real time. No shortcuts.

    The isms are trigger words to conjure emotional response and ruin good thinking and communication.

    • Agree: Rurik
  198. @24th Alabama

    Still beating the “gas station with nukes” drum? Pathetic.
    New material, Please!

    That was a tongue in cheek comment by McCain but his overall point was correct which is that they depend on oil and gas exports. I backed that point with economic data but you of course dismissed it as you are emotionally tied to Putin and reflexively reject unwanted information.

    The pro-Putin bloggers keep pronouncing that Putin will decide this war on his terms as if this is merely a military equation.

    They aren’t watching the oil and its vital importance to the Russian economy.

    Russia cannot do two more years of ongoing refinery attacks. The attacks cannot be fixed overnight and if the oil gets hot enough it can melt the entire plant.

  199. Rurik says:
    @skrik

    Bernays’ grand nephew Marc Randolph, is the co-founder of Netflix

    Putin has offered harsh criticism about the current horrors of Gaza, and has offered to mediate a solution.

    I don’t hold him too much responsible for those on-going crimes, except insofar as his hypocrisy when it comes to demonizing Germany, for the so-called ‘Holocaust’.

    People like to pick and choose their genocides depending on their respective agendas.

    The ‘Holocaust’ suits Putin’s agenda, and so he promotes it, and makes it illegal to question it in Russia.

    The Holodomor doesn’t suit Putin’s agenda, so he dismisses it.

    PS Hohols citing holodomor as reason to hate Russia is one emerging theme among many in current Bernays-style propaganda.

    I’m not sure what you mean by that, skrik.

    in any case, the thing that riles the Hohols, isn’t so much the Holodomor, but rather the calumny heaped upon their grandfathers for fighting against the Red Army, who perpetrated the Holodomor, as ‘evil Nazis, because they fought with the Germans, and probably did kill a few Jewish commies along the way. They, (like I) consider those who fought the Red Army commies, as heroes.

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @israel shamir
  200. Well Trump’s making good on importing 600,000 Chinese spies. Tariffs imposed but the US gets a bunch more slanty-eyed edibles for the Eric Swalwells of America.

    https://notthebee.com/article/president-trump-says-we-have-a-good-relationship-with-china-and-were-going-to-take-600000-students-from-china

    ‘Here’s a list of every U.S. military invention plus schematics Ying-Yang! Now let me slurpy slurpy your tiny -A cups……………..’

  201. peterAUS says:

    …..Trump wants Ukraine to attack Russia……

    The real question is: why anyone is still paying attention to anything that fraud says?

    He is probably starting to realize that he’s way out of his depth in the world (geo)politics and that his real estate deal making skillset is nothing in the true game of power.

    If the Founding Fathers could see what it’s come to……………..

  202. @Rurik

    “ZOG forced the war with Russia. Russia is simply responding to endless ZOG provocations…

    This is part of your fantasy, for which you provided no proof and therefore ought to relinquish. Presumably you still believe in the hoax that Nuland orchestrated a coup, or some other fake narrative or propaganda cliché (poking-the-bear, at-their-doorstep), in which case you are an idiot. There was no provocation that justified Putin’s invasion. All these superficial pillars have been conclusively deconstructed and demolished. The invasion of Ukraine was simply an opportunistic power-grab to exploit western weakness. The war was was “forced” by Putin’s own obsessive delusion of grandeur – his Napoleonic complex that prompted his ridiculous ultimatum demands (so-called red lines) in January 2022, that NATO must withdraw from eastern Europe – which would make his intended Russian re-conquest of land and consequent subjugation of the population that much easier to pursue.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @John Johnson
  203. Notsofast says:
    @Judenfrei

    how is killing one traitor, that took the money and run, who then admitted to organizing a terrorist action, resulting in the death of a russian civilian, an act of terrorism? that’s just justice judy. the russians have a responsibility to protect their citizens from acts of terrorism, by any means necessary. are your judenfreis kosher? 🍟

  204. @Rurik

    here’s something for you to ponder

    https://en.topwar.ru/270090-iz-za-nedogovorosposobnosti-kieva-pora-priznavat-rossijskimi-esche-4-oblasti.html

    What is there to ponder? He must watch Rooshan totalitarian TV if he thinks Sumy and Kharkov Oblasts are under Russian control.

    He made this claim:
    If we talk about the state of affairs at the front against this background, then at the moment the Russian army to one degree or another controls territories in the Sumy, Kharkov, Nikolaev and Dnepropetrovsk regions

    That’s wrong. The battlelines are public information:
    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-25-2025

    It is certainly surprising that Russia does not have Kharkiv at this point. A large city that is only 30 minutes from the Russian border. Pathetic.

    Maybe you and that pro-Russian blogger can crowdsource more electric scooters for the front:

    Can probably buy them for cheap off of American children.

  205. @Been_there_done_that

    This is part of your fantasy, for which you provided no proof and therefore ought to relinquish. Presumably you still believe in the hoax that Nuland orchestrated a coup

    They can’t explain how Nuland used magic JewJew powers to make Ukrainian Parliament vote to remove a corrupt president.

    Even more amusing is how not a single one of them tries to claim that the pro-Russian president was innocent. Kind of hard when he is on video looting his own mansion before fleeing to Russia. He also never explained how he could afford a mansion with a private zoo.

    I’ve asked them a dozen times and they just move on to another topic.

    Then a few weeks later they are back to blaming Nuland and if she used Jewish spirits to remove the most innocent Slav in all of Ukraine. Maybe they are hoping that no one will make them explain themselves.

    It’s really quite pathetic. They should just be honest and say they support Russian imperialism. I don’t see the big deal. They end up looking completely unprincipled anyways.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  206. skrik says:
    @Rurik

    They, (like I) consider those who fought the Red Army commies, as heroes

    Hmmm. Q: How many in the Red Army were ‘true’ commies?

    Recall the Nuremberg [non-] defence: “I was only following orders!”

    Recall the Sergeant Schultz defence: “I know nussing!”

    Recall the Göring quote:

    Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country

    Q: Who’s more guilty, the order-givers or -takers?

    As for

    Hohols citing holodomor as reason to hate

    Hate is a Mot du Jour recently being ‘encouraged’ by rogue-regime propaganda, so caution is advised but hateful is as hateful does. rgds

    • Replies: @Rurik
  207. @John Johnson

    They should just be honest and say they support Russian imperialism.

    Such straightforward proclamations would be embarrassing because such a neo-Stalinist concept is inherently retrograde and historically antiquated. There would be very little resonance because nobody except Putin himself, along with a few of his corrupt cronies, actually yearns to live under that kind of imperialism. Europeans would prefer to continue living under the domain of American influence. The deceptive appeal to the common simpleton thus entails implicitly suggesting that American power is so awful and degenerate that the possible alternative, Russian subjugation and exploitation, would actually amount to liberation and nirvana.

    Well before the war started in February 2022, accompanied by a barrage of contrived propaganda narratives, a quest for Russian imperialism was exactly what Putin had been conveying. In this regard I have repeatedly mentioned his public meeting on March 2, 2018, at the end of which he affirmed his desire to undo the breakup of the UUSR, if he could. This was obviously scripted to be the final applause line; the thrust of the statement was already embedded within the question.

    Five years earlier, toward the end of July 2013, Putin had still only openly expressed ambitions toward Ukraine, when he visited Sevastopol naval base on the 1025th anniversary of the baptism of Prince Vladimir, attended a parade, and gave a speech that appealed to common unity:

    We have common roots, culture and religion. Such commonality is particularly felt these days, when our countries are celebrating a holiday – the 1,025th anniversary of the baptism of Holy Rus’. Our blood and spiritual ties are unbreakable.

    An obscure publication mentioned some of the issues that were already evident at that time and predicted what only became obvious to most outsiders more than half a year later but is still being denied more than a dozen years later by the few fanatics who continue to recite their silly Nuland putsch mantra.

    The Jamestown Foundation

    Ukrainian-Russian Relations: Facing Cool Winter

    July 31, 2013

    Speaking to Jamestown on July 26, parliamentarian Volodymyr Kurennoy (UDAR party), a member of the Verkhovna Rada Foreign Affairs Committee, commented that Yanukovych arranged the Baptism celebrations because he “sensed the Kremlin’s longing for symbolism. The purpose of the festivities was to soften Russia’s reaction to Ukraine’s future signing of the Association Agreement with the EU.” Kurennoy thinks there is a “common-sense” chance that President Yanukovych will secure the EU Association Agreement in November 2013 as “not signing the agreement means a defeat for him in the 2015 presidential elections” (Author’s interview, July 26).

    https://jamestown.org/program/ukrainian-russian-relations-facing-cool-winter/

    Preliminary preparations for Putin’s invasion to stage a military coup and thereby gain immediate control of most of Ukraine were clearly already underway in In July 2021, when the Kremlin challenged the sovereignty of Ukraine in a published its essay “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“, which I have previously linked to. It set the primary narrative, which was supplemented by other phony rationales, which his apologists like to regurgitate.

    By issuing his ultimatum in December 2021, reformulated in January 2022, Putin may have thought that the threat of an impending invasion was sufficient leverage to get a relatively weak NATO, which had just suffered a defeat in Afghanistan, to acceded to his outrageous demands – which Trump would likely have done – and make itself even weaker. Putin was likely overconfident that Russian forces could easily take over the entire country of Ukraine in a quick surprise attack, perhaps also Moldova. If not, his ultimatum was a very risky gambit, because he might then be forced to call his own bluff by following up with an invasion if his demands would be rejected. However, at least he should have known that this would be the case.

    The following excerpts make clear that these so-called red lines were a non-starter, and that the United Sates responded with proposals that Russians diplomats – but not Putin – regarded as workable (footnotes stripped):

    Wikipedia

    December 2021 Russian ultimatum to NATO

    Boris Bondarev, a Russian diplomat who later resigned in protest of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, recalled that the draft treaties had shocked many Russian diplomats and that he immediately viewed the demands as non-negotiable. Bondarev also stated that during a dinner amid bilateral U.S–Russia strategic stability talks in Geneva on 10 January 2022, that Ryabkov had screamed at U.S. officials, including Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman, that “[Russia] need[s] Ukraine! We won’t go anywhere without Ukraine! Get out with your belongings [to the 1997 borders]!”.

    On 26 January 2022, NATO and the U.S. issued their formal response to Russia, in which they rejected demands that Ukraine never join NATO and that the alliance withdraw its forces from Eastern Europe; the confidential document was later published by El País. It called on Russia to withdraw forces from Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova, and discussed a potential transparency mechanism to confirm the absence of U.S. Tomahawk cruise missiles at two Aegis Ashore sites in Romania and Poland in exchange for transparency at two ground-launched missile bases in Russia. Other areas indicated for negotiation were a potential revival of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, and new mutual rules limiting the size and locations of military exercises. Alexander Gabuev, director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, later recalled that Russian diplomats were “pleasantly” surprised with the proposals and believed that they could achieve agreements which would strengthen Russian security, but that the Kremlin was uninterested.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2021_Russian_ultimatum_to_NATO

    Though a Russian delegation was invited to attend the Munich Security Conference just a few days before the war began, Putin, along with his clique of hard-liners, had apparently decided they were not interested in negotiations and would throw their prior agreements from 1994, and 1997, among others, out the window. The evidence is clear that Putin was forced into war only by his obsessive pursuit of his own grandiose ambitions, as I stated in my prior comment. He likely received sound advice not to follow through with an aggressive attack, which he ignored.

  208. Johan says:
    @Tom Welsh

    On the contrary, children can be made to understand that modern warfare, in an increasingly interconnected and smaller world, and with modern technology, will be ever more destructive, on an ever wider scale. They can also be made to understand that the so called deterrent effect of being strongly armed will only work for a certain time, after which ever more destructive hell will definitely break loose. They can be made to understand that behind this so called rationalist logic is the lies of self-deceptive irrational adults.
    Children can be made to understand that the self-deceptive adults sell them lies, they can be made to think in different tracks, which many adults are unable to depart from.

  209. Rurik says:
    @skrik

    Hmmm. Q: How many in the Red Army were ‘true’ commies?

    did it matter?

    what mattered, (I would suggest), is that if the Red Army prevailed, then the kind of regime that had perpetrated the Holodomor, (and the Katyn forest and the gulags and pogroms and Red Terror, and so forth..) would prevail.

    I have way of looking at history, where I extrapolate what I see today, as being likely what may have happened back then, because as we all know, almost nothing is so lied-about, as history, and particularly the history of recent conflicts.

    Today, in the U.S., (and England and France and Ireland and Canada and Sweden, and many other Western nations), there is a roiling conflict between the native born populations, and the hordes of invading populations, led by Jewish supremacists who’ve insinuated themselves into every niche of the power-structures of those dying Western nations.

    The intent of these Jews and their hordes, is obviously to overrun the white populations, and then impose their will upon the subjugated peoples of those lands.

    This is particularly apparent in England, today, where non-white rapists are coddled by the ((state)), and any British people who complain, are dealt with in a draconian manner. A government of and by people who hate the English people’s guts, with a netherworld fanaticism.

    Exactly what happened to the Kulaks during the Holodomor, when their lands were overrun by genocidal Jewish supremacists, (I know, redundant ; )

    There is a definite pattern to Jewish supremacists when they gain the upper hand over others. They always set about subjugating and then genociding the victim populations. It’s like it’s written somewhere on their DNA. ‘We must dominate and genocide all others’.

    And their history, at least of the last century, has been exactly that.

    Now, just look around, and see what Jewish supremacists are all fanatically up to, (genocide of Palestine and genocide of Europe, and horrors writ large all over the Middle East..), and I think you’d agree that if the Red Army were basically the storm troopers of the Jewish supremacists, (as I would definitely characterize them), then allowing them to prevail, could only mean cruel subjugation, and genocide.

    Which, without being an historian, is exactly how I’d characterize the Jewish domination of Russia and Ukraine and the Baltic states, and so forth, just as that is how I’d characterize the Jewish supremacist actions today in the West, where the white populations are being systematically marginalized and replaced. With the intent as a genocidal final solution* to the European question.

    *Jews always ‘project’ their intentions and actions on to their victims. It’s simply ‘what they do’, just like pushing spiritual poison and moral rot, and looting everything not bolted down, and fomenting hatred and strife and every kind of societal bane, and it seems to me, for the sheer pleasure it gives them to do so.

    In Weimar Germany, or Bolshevik Russia, or modern Western Europe and the U.S. and Canada, it’s what they do.

    Perhaps the most extraordinary thing about that, is that the goyim never seem to catch on..

    • Thanks: skrik
    • Replies: @skrik
  210. Which, without being an historian, is exactly how I’d characterize the Jewish domination of Russia and Ukraine and the Baltic states, and so forth, just as that is how I’d characterize the Jewish supremacist actions today in the West, where the white populations are being systematically marginalized and replaced. With the intent as a genocidal final solution* to the European question.

    So you believe that the Jews were in charge of the USSR but now Putin is not under their control?

    Did he launch his invasion against a smaller Orthodox nation on his own accord?

    You don’t deny that Israel gets cheap oil out of this war, correct? The West provides them with an exemption. They don’t have to pass sanctions on Russia due to limited sources. In fact Israel has turned down weapons requests from Zelensky. I can source that if you would like.

    Both Russia and the US are fine with Israel playing both sides.

    How is Putin serving the people of Russia through a war where the US and Israel profit? That would mean his war financially benefits the two countries with the largest Jewish populations, yes?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  211. Trump needs to make good on getting rid of visa programs like H1-B.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/exposed-job-search-sites-caught-hiding-high-paying/

    This is not DEI or Affirmative Action, but is calculated, premeditated,1%’er goy and jew white plotting to make 99%’er Americans completely destitute.

    Some magic negro is not running these jobs boards purposely siphoning roles to foreigners, so I find it incriminating that Trump continues to ignore the continuing damage of these diabolic visa programs.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  212. @israel shamir

    Al Arabiya is the voice of the Saudi Royal Government, which tries to straddle between the
    US and Israel on one hand, but without completely alienating the “Arab Street” and inciting a
    revolt against the Arab Monarchs. This is a precarious strategy, ultimately doomed,
    but it’s all you can do while riding two wild horses at the same time.
    All the best to you, Mr. Shamir!

    • Agree: israel shamir
  213. @Been_there_done_that

    ADDENDUM:

    Accompanying my recent comments I quoted from Wikipedia with regard to Putin’s proposed draft treaties, which were transformed to his declared ultimatum (“red lines“) in January 2022, as troops were amassing at the border with Ukraine in Belarus:

    Boris Bondarev, a Russian diplomat who later resigned in protest of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, recalled that the draft treaties had shocked many Russian diplomats and that he immediately viewed the demands as non-negotiable.

    After his resignation Bondarev explained in greater detail how he felt about Russia’s ill fated direction under Putin, due to his unnecessary war of choice. He confirmed what most people – with the exception of a few sewer creatures that infest this web site – have already known for many years, namely that this is a personal power-trip by Putin and his criminal cronies:

    Translated from Russian using Google Translate:

    The Russian diplomat motivated his decision by the fact that in 20 years of service in the Russian Foreign Ministry, he had never been so ashamed of his country and work. “The aggressive war unleashed by Putin against Ukraine, and in fact against the entire Western world, is not only a crime against the Ukrainian people, but also, perhaps, the most serious crime against the people of Russia,” he wrote.

    According to Bondarev, the goal of the organizers of the war against Ukraine is “to remain in power forever,” “to enjoy unlimited power and complete impunity,” for which “thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died.”

    As the diplomat stated, over the past 20 years, “the level of lies and unprofessionalism in the work of the Foreign Ministry has been constantly increasing,” and now the ministry “instead of unbiased information about what is happening, impartial analysis and sober forecasting” is spreading “propaganda cliches in the spirit of Soviet newspapers of the 1930s.” Bondarev, according to him, would like to continue working in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but believes that remaining in government service now would mean betraying the Motherland.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220523182215/https://www.dw.com/ru/sotrudnik-postpredstva-rf-pri-oon-podal-v-otstavku-iz-za-vojny-v-ukraine/a-61903948

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  214. skrik says:
    @Rurik

    Perhaps the most extraordinary thing about that, is that the goyim never seem to catch on..

    I grew up in ‘the land down-under’. I do not recall ever hearing the word ‘jew’ as any sort of significant topic or person. My parents attempted to corrupt my beautiful ‘before the age of reason’ mind with god/religion, which I rejected as being impossible. Now we can plainly see, Oz [politicians, media, society in general, also ditto in the West] are all under ((their)) control.

    Q: How/why?

    Suggested A: Most of the people in Oz, as most of ‘the West’ did not reject religion, but fell for the ‘life after death’ scam.

    Part repeat:

    “The man or nation that lifts a voice or hand against Israel invites the wrath of God.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible

    The myriad ‘believer’ cowards in the world fear for their stupidly wished-for ‘afterlife’ [imaginary & impossible!] thinking that ((they)) are in control of ((their)) invented Yahweh.

    So ‘believer’ cowards ‘cave’ to ((their)) vile control, and the genocide [which began before Nakba#1, 1947] of hapless Palestinians is not condemned, let alone effectively hindered. rgds

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Rurik
  215. Rurik says:
    @John Johnson

    So you believe that the Jews were in charge of the USSR but now Putin is not under their control?

    correct

    he was selected by the Jews as Yeltsin’s replacement as their stooge to preside over the dissolution of Russia, much like the Godfather scene, where Cuba was being cut up and handed to respective gangsters.

    This is what they intended for Russia, for it to be cut up and handed to respective ((oligarchs)), who would then treat it like they’re treating Palestine or Syria, today. As their personal property, to be divided up and used as ((they)) see fit.

    But then Putin grew a Russian pair, and decided he couldn’t preside over the destruction of Russia.

    So now the Jews, (particularly after Putin saved Syria, for a short while), are out to get him.

    But they’ve always hated Russia, for historical reasons, and so it didn’t matter if it was the Tsar or Putin or any Russian nationalist, they hate Russia, and most of all, the Russian people.

    Did he launch his invasion against a smaller Orthodox nation on his own accord?

    you’re an idiot

    the Jews forced the war in Ukraine, by killing Russian-speaking people

    all this time, and you still pretend not to know that.

    Both Russia and the US are fine with Israel playing both sides.

    Putin is a master at Geopolitical realities. Israel controls the Western world, Putin has to deal with realities. There are also lots and lots of Russians in Israel, so it’s quite complicated.

    So far, Putin has condemned the horrors in Gaza, and that is what I would consider the very minimal action of any kind of world leader today.

    How is Putin serving the people of Russia through a war where the US and Israel profit? That would mean his war financially benefits the two countries with the largest Jewish populations, yes?

    JJ, you’re obviously too stupid and blinkered to comprehend the bigger picture here.

    Why don’t you just give up, and go to Freerepublic, or somewhere, where your special kind of ‘insights’ can be appreciated?

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  216. Rurik says:
    @skrik

    I had the same kind of upbringing in the U.S., skrik

    The “Greatest Generation” saved the Jews and saved the world from the ‘greatest evil’ the planet had ever known. Obviously the television and movies were part of that upbringing. My Mom told me how her generation got all their news of the outside world from newsreels that played before the motion pictures.

    ‘Hitler! blah, blah,

    Japs!, blah, blah..

    Of course it didn’t help that ‘the Japs’ fell for FDR’s trap, that’s when my dad was sent to the Pacific theater.

    Q: How/why?

    the Jews teach their young about money, and how it works, and why it’s important.

    The Christians, (at least of my upbringing) eschew all talk of money, and advocate that the important thing in life is self-sacrifice, and submission and obedience.

    I have a theory that Christianity was embraced by the leaders of the 5th century Western world, because it made for a blindly obedient citizenry, and what leader does not want that?

    So ‘believer’ cowards ‘cave’ to ((their)) vile control, and the genocide [which began before Nakba#1, 1947] of hapless Palestinians is not condemned, let alone effectively hindered.

    yep

    the problem is the believers are our people, and we have to find a way to reach them somehow, if not for the fate of the Palestinians, (and Syrians and Libyans and Lebanese and Iraqis and Iranians and Ukrainians and Russians…), then at least for their own children’s sake, as I just pointed on on the Masthead Churchill article.

    The Christian churches, are leading the way in promoting mass immigration from third world shitholes. They’re the ones who relentlessly invoke ‘the god of Israel’, and would piss themselves before they said anything that might be interpreted as ‘racist’.

    I think they’d watch their own children be assaulted by immigrants, and say that is the price we must all pay to wash ourselves in Jesus’s healing forgiveness, blah, blah..

    It wasn’t alway thus. The Christian churches of Saint Isabella of Castile, were nobly imbued with the true spirit of Christ, that defended the honor and dignity of Christian children, rather than the opposite we see today.

    I put it down to shekels. Today the Jews own the Fed, and that means they control the shekels, and the churches love nothing more than lots and lots of shekels. Just like the politicians and academics and so on. That’s why my mantra is ‘No way out but through the Fed’.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @skrik
  217. @ServesyouallWhite

    Trump needs to make good on getting rid of visa programs like H1-B.

    I know someone who worked at a very large corporation that hired a ton of H1-Bs.

    They would do everything possible to not give an American a 3 dollar an hour raise for skilled positions.

    They had billions in profit each quarter and yet claimed there weren’t enough candidates. What they really meant was that they needed more Indian H1-Bs so they wouldn’t have to hire Americans.

    This is one of many reasons why I don’t like conservatives or libertarians.

    The idea that unregulated capitalism serves the American public is ridiculous.

    These multi-national companies would enslave most Whites if it would save them a few dollars.

    Most libertarians are White guys that have not seen the inside of a Fortunte 50 company. The average retired boomer is some White guy in the burbs who owned a landscaping company. They have only seen small scale capitalism.

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  218. @Rurik

    But then Putin grew a Russian pair, and decided he couldn’t preside over the destruction of Russia.

    So now the Jews, (particularly after Putin saved Syria, for a short while), are out to get him.

    So the Jews are out to get Putin even though he is openly friends with Netanyahu and provides the IDF military machine with cheap oil? Why don’t you explain that to us.

    Putin betrayed Syria according to Iran and it matches the highly suspicious reaction of the Russians to the HTS rebellion. Was Iran wrong? Seems another action under Putin that “just happens” to benefit Israel.

    But in your mind he is somehow “fightin them Jews” while Israel was able to take another chunk of Syria thanks to Putin betraying Assad.

    Which means Israel benefits from Putin’s actions.

    You are truly one of the most deluded posters here. Putin is on record talking about how the Russian Jews are great and he even kicked out a US White nationalism for anti-semitism. But in your mind he is actually locked in some elaborate battle with Western Jews. It’s such ridiculous fiction. You don’t deny that Israel gets cheap oil out of the war or that they have turned down weapons requests from Ukraine. Everyone can see that. You just keep going back to events of the past that were exaggerated by pro-Putin supporters. Like this:

    the Jews forced the war in Ukraine, by killing Russian-speaking people

    Which year was that? Did you want to contend that Slavs on both sides were more likely to drown in the years 2017-2021?

    The “protecting Russians” excuse is a load of bullshit. Putin killed more Slavs in the first 48 hours of the war compared to the previous 5 years. Did you want UN data on that?

    Would there be more or fewer Slavs alive if Putin did not invade?

    JJ, you’re obviously too stupid and blinkered to comprehend the bigger picture here.

    You can call me names all day and yet I have the better record on the war than the Putin supporting bloggers including Pepe and MacGregor. Russia has not taken Sumy and they are about to have even more problems from Ukrainian attacks on oil.

    This war is obviously not going as planned and your cope is getting worse. If Putin actually cared about Slavic lives then he would go home and rebuild Russia. But he will continue to make Orthodox graveyards while Israel gets cheap Russian oil. Take that Jews! Dead Orthodox on both sides and Israel gets cheap oil.

    Everyone note that Rurik will not deny that Israel gets cheap oil from Putin’s invasion. He will just go back to calling me names out of frustration. He wants alt-right to be a place where Putin supporters can mindlessly repeat DA JEWS and not have a rational discussion on exactly who benefits from the war. He is not interested in discussing national best interest rationally like a White man.

    Here is the speech where the Rurik’s hero Putin praises Russian Jews for promoting high and patriotic morals in the youth:
    https://www.rt.com/russia/598704-putin-jewish-salvation-day/

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  219. skrik says:
    @Rurik

    I put it down to shekels. Today the Jews own the Fed, and that means they control the shekels

    Agreed, but I think it’s much more than ‘just’ shekels, it’s some sort of screwed up ideology at work, there is in the general population the idea that justice must be implemented but ((they)) are out of all control with justice being denied – since before Nakba#1. Pro-Palestinian voices are becoming louder and more of them; the authorities are entering very risky territory. Possibly the only way to end the Fed would be via a general collapse of the US economy, rather like the 30s depression on steroids. But even then, somebody would have to plan then coordinate the Fed-end.

    My suggestion to end the genocide is to implement a 100% BDS and an internationally enforced no-fly zone over all ((occupied)) territory in and around Palestine. Let ((them)) stew in ((their)) own juices.

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  220. @Rurik

    Russia doesn’t criminalise holocaust denial. It even provided asylum to a Swiss denier.

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  221. I notice Trump is talking about NATO as “they” not “we”, about selling weapons to NATO, about them being “fine people”. What the hell is this? Has US left NATO? Or not just yet, but soon enough? It seems as far as Trump is concerned, USA is not in NATO; he just has to make it official at some point.

  222. Rurik says:
    @John Johnson

    So the Jews are out to get Putin even though he is openly friends with Netanyahu and provides the IDF military machine with cheap oil? Why don’t you explain that to us.

    I would, but you’re too stupid to comprehend it.

    but just for others out there, ‘the Jews’ also hate the Brits and French and all other Amalek, anti-semites, (Nazis), which is why those nations are currently being destroyed, but yet there are few governments more slavishly servile to Israel than those two countries.

    The issue you see is shekels, and the kind of Geo-political influence shekels will buy you.

    If I owned and controlled the world’s reserve currency, then I would call the shots in much of the world. Every person involved with the USS Liberty, would be brought to justice. Ditto 9/11, and many other crimes that I personally would like to be accounted for. There would be peace and justice in the world, perhaps for the first time in history. ~ Humble Rurik.

    That’s how it works, and Mayer Amschel Rothschild said it long ago:

    “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.”

    And so even tho Putin knows the Jews hate Russia and the Russian people, (and him, most of all ; ) he nevertheless has to play ball, and be civil to Bibi.

    Here’s a clue, JJ: No one likes Bibi.

    Every single person who has to tolerate that asshole, does so with great forbearance, because he’s about as loathsome a POS as you’ll ever encounter. But yet they bow down, and pull out the chair, and genuflect in a thousand obscene ways, because Jews own and control the world’s reserve currency, and can conjure several trillion dollars out of thin air, on a whim.

    Comprende?

    Putin betrayed Syria according to Iran and it matches the highly suspicious reaction of the Russians to the HTS rebellion. Was Iran wrong?

    Putin’s main concern is Russia. I suspect that Assad’s Syria simply became ungovernable, and that was that. I have no way of knowing the behind the scenes intrigue. Perhaps there’s some truth to what Iran says, (if they did), but I simply don’t know.

    But in your mind he [Putin] is actually locked in some elaborate battle with Western Jews. It’s such ridiculous fiction.

    not Western Jews, per se. The Jews Putin is locked in a battle with, have no sense of territorial loyalty. They’re loyalty is to themselves, (first and foremost) and to fellow Jews, no matter where they happen to be standing at any given moment. But their central snake pit is the ‘Square Mile, City of London.

    Rurik’s hero Putin

    I’ve been more critical of Putin than most. His lies about the Red Army as “liberators”, is one of, if not the main motivation for the hostility, that yes, Jews are exploiting, to force this Jewish war on Russia, by using Ukraine as cannon fodder.

    Duh

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  223. Rurik says:
    @skrik

    I think it’s much more than ‘just’ shekels, it’s some sort of screwed up ideology at work,

    that ideology has been carefully put in place, since soon after Dec. 24th, 1913.

    Once they controlled America’s money, it was simple enough to buy up all the newspapers and radio stations and eventually television stations and Hollywood and politicians and universities and courts, and ‘human rights’ and philanthropic organization like the Ford Foundation and so on..

    This is how and why our society is so skewed and has become virtually insane = Jewed.

    Up is down, black is white, right is wrong, and so on..

    Yes, either some heroic leaders like Thomas Massie and Rand Paul find a way to rally the whores in DC, to end the Fed, or it goes the way of a slow death of inflation, and the rise of BRICS, and so forth.

    I’m with you 100% on BDS

    This is one thing that ‘we the people’ can do, and there’s nothing that ZOG can do to stop us. Pledges of fealty or not.

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  224. Rurik says:
    @israel shamir

    Thank you Mr. Shamir, for that information, but it seems to contradict other information.

    We all know ((Wiki)) isn’t valid for controversial subjects, but it says Russia has “legislation in place criminalising Holocaust denial”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial

    were these laws

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/197664/holocaust-deniers-in-russia-now-face-five-years-in/

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-criminalizes-nazi-denial/25373990.html

    officially repealed?

    watch, (if you can) this execrable exercise in rancid hypocrisy

    Everything bad that happened during WWII was *all* Germany’s fault. Russia and the Bolsheviks/Soviets were a pure and innocent as angels, and even more so, because they even forgave Germany for being sooo evil.

    It’s pure Jewish, ‘Holocaust’ narrative, spewed with sanctimonious venom, as if Russia and the Soviets were pure as the driven snow.

    check her out as seven minutes, ‘they categorized people based on ethnicity, and who was allowed to live, or be slaves, or killed immediately’.

    Now try to square that with what Russia did during Operation Keelhaul, or at Katyn, (or the Holodomor, for God’s sake!), or a thousand other outrages against decency or human rights, and you would think that woman is insane.

    But the true irony, is at 4:10, when she say “Today from official Berlin, we hear calls for the destruction of our statehood”

    does she have the slightest idea of the irony of that?

    The Jews who controlled Russia, and from Moscow menaced and threatened the entire region, (forcing Germany to respond to that threat),

    Are now in Berlin, and menacing Russia, and forcing Russia to respond to that threat.

    But to underscore the nefarious power of ‘the Jew’, in both cases, Germany is be blamed for it all,
    when the Jews controlled Russia in the 1920s and 30s, and now today, when the Jews control Germany.

    Russia, of course is absolutely innocent, and the Jews are absolutely innocent.

    This is the kind of rank hypocrisy that is driving the war in Ukraine, and driving Sweden and Finland into ((NATO)), because Russia will go to nuclear war, before they’ll ever admit to any guilt on their part for WWII.

    And I find that disgusting.

    Sorry to get to ranting and frothing, Mr. Shamir, but I seem to do that from time to time.

    Perhaps you can question the holy six million, and soap and lampshades in Russia, but you’re not allowed to point out the things I just did here in this comment.

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  225. @Rurik

    I think Russia has those laws but unlike in Germany they’re not strictly applied. There was one case where someone was prosecuted but the judge let them off, if I remember correctly. Maybe there were other similar cases. Anyway, those laws are not treated seriously.

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    , @Rurik
  226. @Rurik

    And so even tho Putin knows the Jews hate Russia and the Russian people, (and him, most of all ; ) he nevertheless has to play ball, and be civil to Bibi.

    Here’s a clue, JJ: No one likes Bibi.

    I judge politicians by their actions and not by the defenses of forum posters.

    Putin goes well beyond diplomatic pleasantries and has described Netanyahu as a close friend.

    The strange love affair of Putin and Netanyahu
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/strange-love-affair-putin-and-netanyahu

    Putin’s main concern is Russia. I suspect that Assad’s Syria simply became ungovernable, and that was that. I have no way of knowing the behind the scenes intrigue. Perhaps there’s some truth to what Iran says, (if they did), but I simply don’t know.

    Another Putin defender who seems incapable of reading basic news. Color me surprised.

    Syria was invaded by a force of Syrian refugees that were trained in Turkey. They slowly marched across open desert and were not engaged by Russian Migs. An Iranian general said that Putin’s air force only pretended to attack them. Syrian forces reported that their calls to Russian lines for assistance were ignored.

    Syria was completely governable up until they were invaded. Russia was in contract to provide security and yet they didn’t engage the rebels when they entered. The most likely explanation is that Putin was aware of the invading force and chose to do nothing. He wanted to bring back his armored units in Syria. The pro-Putin bootlickers like MacGregor and Ritter don’t talk about how Russia is using T-55s and e-scooters. Putin is short on armor and in fact shiny armored vehicles were filmed leaving Syria.

    The Jews Putin is locked in a battle with, have no sense of territorial loyalty. They’re loyalty is to themselves, (first and foremost) and to fellow Jews, no matter where they happen to be standing at any given moment. But their central snake pit is the ‘Square Mile, City of London.

    So Putin is in a battle with international Jews of finance? Ok great we at least have a definable group. Do explain how they lose by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. A wealthy Jewish investor who has stocks in either the US MIC or LNG will have made a very nice profit since the war started. How does he lose compared to a Russian family that lost a son?

    I’ve been more critical of Putin than most. His lies about the Red Army as “liberators”

    Which means you have criticized his meaningless defenses of the USSR. You don’t criticize his war policies like targeting downtown Kiev with cruise missiles and drones. Do the international Jews make him target civilians? Or is that a moral failing on his part?

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  227. @Commentator Mike

    I think Russia has those laws but unlike in Germany they’re not strictly applied. There was one case where someone was prosecuted but the judge let them off, if I remember correctly. Maybe there were other similar cases. Anyway, those laws are not treated seriously.

    Any such case would be rare in Russia as they are a totalitarian state and set the tone for what is allowed.

    You are probably referring to this case where the professor lost his job and the criminal case was only dropped because of the statute of limitations:
    https://www.severreal.org/a/sud-v-peterburge-prekratil-delo-protiv-professora-nazvavshego-holokost-mifom/32297907.html

    Journalists have been given lengthy sentences for criticizing the war so of course few will test Putin’s holocaust denial law.

    Putin signed a law which bans holocaust denial and also contains wording that seems to imply they may imprison you over shaming Stalin.
    https://forward.com/fast-forward/197664/holocaust-deniers-in-russia-now-face-five-years-in/

    Russia does not allow free speech. In fact a Russian was given a sentence for taking part in a street interview with a Western source:
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-man-gets-5-years-labour-street-interview-about-ukraine-war-2024-04-22/

    As a reminder the Russian prisons are managed by a mafia that allows rape. They can designate a prisoner to be raped for his entire sentence.

    Which means in Russia you can be raped for years over criticizing the government. Now back to bootlicking for this totalitarian state.

  228. @John Johnson

    I have to admit, you are on to something there John. I am seriously sick of the entire mess, including Trump’s ideas he must have thought of while sitting on The Crapper, ideas like this-

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/26/postal-services-suspend-us-usa-deliveries-how-will-it-affect-you

    Millions of Americans depend on overseas goods such as cheaper medications, to consumer products not available in the United States and now Dump goes and screws up the mail system.

    I know someone who worked at a very large corporation that hired a ton of H1-Bs.

    They would do everything possible to not give an American a 3 dollar an hour raise for skilled positions.

    They had billions in profit each quarter and yet claimed there weren’t enough candidates. What they really meant was that they needed more Indian H1-Bs so they wouldn’t have to hire Americans.

    All true. It would not surprise me that dot indians are actually the chosen non-white race to replace White Americans in pseudo-living wage industries.

    The Western white public focused on the wrong things for too long and now it’s too late.

    I do not enjoy sounding like a ‘Donnie Downer’, but every idea the 99% has come up with, the 1% and their upper 99% minions already have a counter to whichever idea the 99% may try to implement in desperation.

    Civil War 2.0? Well just try aiming your rifle why this thing is focused on you-

    https://jifco.defense.gov/Press-Room/Fact-Sheets/Article-View-Fact-sheets/Article/577989/active-denial-technology/

    The above page is from 2020, so you can bet that the active denial tech has only been improved upon.

    Go totally off grid? Anything is worth a try, but with today’s technology, they will find you. And I personally believe engineered pathogens have been deliberately released to infect prey animals that off-griders rely on for food a lot of the time-

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15017759/Mutant-deer-horrifying-flesh-bubbles-US-outbreak.html

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15004581/zombie-squirrels-tentacle-faces-invade-US.html

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14993099/Frankenstein-rabbits-tentacles-heads-colorado.html

    The goal is to make 99%’ers totally reliant on Uncle Scam for edibles as no one in their right mind will risk eating infected game.

    And remember during covid, organ transplants, continued employment, even make-a-wish organizations were denied to any who did not take the covid shot? That was just a litmus test to see how far they could go.

    If there is any time to take what savings you have and find an island somewhere, now might just be the time before you need a government approved ‘travel pass’ (more restrictive than passports)

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  229. peterAUS says:
    @ServesyouallWhite

    …..It would not surprise me that dot indians are actually the chosen non-white race to replace White Americans in pseudo-living wage industries…..

    Among the rest of non-White immigrants.

    It appears that the argument going on as we speak, within 1 %, is whether the USA will become new Brazil or new India.
    For the former the bulk should come from the South and for the later from India.
    At this stage Brazil looks more likely.
    https://www.highly-respected.com/p/examining-the-prophecies-about-multicultural

    ….every idea the 99% has come up with, the 1% and their upper 99% minions already have a counter to whichever idea the 99% may try to implement in desperation…..

    Looks like it.
    Not there are many ideas to start with, mind you.

    …That was just a litmus test to see how far they could go….

    The thing was a bit more complicated than that, but, yes, such testing was definitely part of it.
    “We” passed the test with flying colors, of course.

    ….find an island somewhere….

    Those places have their own peculiar dynamics. Take a look at the history of Pitcairn, as a very good example.
    Or how that exercise 2020-2022 worked on plenty of Pacific islands. You are likely to be surprised.

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  230. TrumpSUX says:
    @Franz

    Well there is always the alternative that ALL parties are working to genocide the Slavs on behalf of the UK and its proxy, Israel (zionists). Putin still hasn’t hit key targets in Kiev to allow for this genocide to end.

    Its all a ruse. Everyone (all leaders) are generally in-on-it and compliant, and quite confident. How can we trust any of these leaders after how the population was treated during COVID?? There are no good guys leading us. Its just a “good cop bad cop” routine and most are at max blindness.

    Its all a ruse. We are in the de-population phase, one genocide (or 2 or 3) at a time. You wont have to watch these depop efforts much longer on your zombie phones….its coming to a local theater near you!!!

  231. Rurik says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I think Russia has those laws but unlike in Germany they’re not strictly applied.

    yes, but just that they’re there, might have a chilling effect.

    blah, blah, blah..

    as he denies the Holodomor

    https://www.acton.org/publications/transatlantic/2017/11/27/russia-still-denies-holodomor-was-genocide

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/russia-slams-french-parliament-for-calling-holodomor-genocide/

    they won’t let the war narrative (lies) end, because they know as soon as they’re honest about the laughably idiotic narrative that the war was a conflict between stark good vs. evil, with them playing the good guys, and the Germans, (and everyone who fought the Red Army) being the ‘bad guys’,then they can no longer puff out their chests in sanctimonious ‘indignation’, like that Russian spokesperson in the video above is doing.

    And this from in apologia for a regime that enslaved half of Europe to an iron-fisted, repressive, Orwellian domination.

    Check out Salomon Morel for an exemplary example of how the Soviets ran concentration camps in an ‘enlightened’ way, with ‘justice and fairness’ for all internees.

    Russia’s hypocrisy over WWII, is only equaled by the hypocrisy of the ((West)), vis-a-vis their promotion of “democracy” in Ukraine, where Victoria Nuland picks the president, and in Romania, where the ((PBT)) overrule the democratic vote, because they don’t like the outcome.

    The West, ‘Rules Based Order, demands that it has a right to menace Russia, because of ‘human rights’, and the inviolate sanctity of borders, as it funds and provides ‘moral’ cover for the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

    It’s unfair to describe these governments as a swamps, or sewers, because that isn’t fair to swamps or sewers.

    ‘stop comparing me to your governments!

    It’s not fair!

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  232. Rurik says:
    @John Johnson

    So Putin is in a battle with international Jews of finance?

    I would describe it more as ‘Global Jewish supremacy’. But yes, Central banking is their weapon.

    Ok great we at least have a definable group. Do explain how they lose by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    They don’t lose, but from Russia’s perspective, they don’t win, at least in the case of Russia’s dissolution, like the picture of Cuba I posted above.

    A wealthy Jewish investor who has stocks in either the US MIC or LNG will have made a very nice profit since the war started. How does he lose compared to a Russian family that lost a son?

    you’re looking at the conflict in a very parochial way, JJ

    What’s going on is the continuation of WWII. Global Jewish supremacy, won WWII, and their prize was Europe and America, but they want it all. And there is some grumbling across their empire.

    You might say the World Wars was a, (it was basically one war, with a short break in the middle), conflict between the Jewish supremacist vision of the world, (Talmudic enslavement of the goyim), vs. Western civilization. And the Jews won big.

    Since then, the West has been dying a slow, depraved death, culminating today with orcs slicing up little British school girls, and any Brit who complains is dragged off to the gulags.

    This is the triumph of Jews over their ancient and eternal enemies, who have ‘persecuted, (refused to be their slaves) the Jews ‘for two thousand years!’.

    Now, the Jews have their slaves.

    but please notice who is not there

    These men make nice with the Jews, but they aren’t their slaves, and so the persecution of Jews continues.

    It is this intolerable persecution, (refusal to bow down to Jewish power), that is motivating the war on Russia, with Ukraine as the cannon fodder.

    The Jews want, (demand) total and universal domination of everyone. It is written. And as long as they control the ‘world’s reserve currency’, their power is near-absolute, at least in the West. Hence the photo of the pathetic G7 vassals. But not so today in Russia, (and yes, Asia, but that is another story). Russia destroyed their Khazaria, in the tenth century, or so. And they’re still pissed off about that, even more so than the Romans, who did the same thing a few centuries earlier, but to different ‘Jews’.

    This malignant ‘religion’, (Darwinian, lizard-like approach to foreign policy and society), and a fanatical worship of money, (Moloch), have given the Jews a solid advantage over the goyim. And as such, creates the kind of opportunities for their World Wars, and atrocities and genocides, that they enjoy so much. But it also tends towards a backlash, when the outrages against the goyim become too intolerable.

    The trick is to achieve enough power so that the goyim have no recourse to the Jews’ sadistic barbarity and genocidal savagery, like they practiced in the early days of the Bolshevik revolution, all over Russia and Hungary and everywhere else they consolidated power. Or, like they’re doing today in Gaza.

    But in the last century, the Nazis rose up in opposition to the Jews, because they didn’t want to end up like the Kulaks. But due to Jewish power, (money / shekels), the Jew ultimately prevailed.

    Now today it isn’t Germany, (that has been fully emasculated and is now ZOG’s lapdog bitch), but rather Russia who has thumbed its nose at ZOG, even yes, as it plays nice on the diplomatic stage.

    ZOG and Bibi are not the same thing, JJ. It’s far more complicated than that. Bibi is an apparatchik, and only does what he’s told by the really powerful Jews who control the world’s money. He may have rivals in Israel, and big ZOG lets that minor stuff play out, whichever way, because in either case, they’re always going to be the ones in control, regardless, and all the Israelis know it.

    I don’t know how stupid you actually are, JJ, and if all of this goes straight over your head, but I’m putting it all out there just the same, because you seem so confused, and I thought I’d try to help you.

    I suspect Mr. Shamir knows exactly what I’m talking about, and indeed, Mr. Unz and most other Jews who were raised as Jews, because all of this is just boilerplate for how Jews see the world. Because it’s how Jews are raised to see the world. That doesn’t mean they all agree that god created this planet just for Jews, and that the goyim were put here as their slaves, blah, blah.., but they know that is the Jewish narrative, and so unlike you, (unless you’re just pretending to be that stupid) they at least understand the motivating factors going on behind the scenes as to all these wars and societal rot and immigration, and so forth.. because they all know, (as I suspect you do as well ; ) the eternal ethos of ‘the Jews’ is to rule, and subjugate, (or destroy) Almalek. Duh, right?

    But how will it all play out?

    That is the question.

    And a major part of that outcome, is being decided today in Ukraine, where ZOG is foisting this war to destroy Russia, and get millions of goyim slaughtered. Also in Gaza, where ZOG is attempting a scorched earth genocide.

    These are macro events, JJ. If some Jew or Gentile makes some money in the stock market off these wars, it is nothing to the big picture, that will determine the 21st century and beyond.

    Can your feeble brain comprehend such things?

  233. @ServesyouallWhite

    The Western white public focused on the wrong things for too long and now it’s too late.

    I do not enjoy sounding like a ‘Donnie Downer’, but every idea the 99% has come up with, the 1% and their upper 99% minions already have a counter to whichever idea the 99% may try to implement in desperation.

    I don’t think you sound like a Donnie Downer at all. It’s a difficult reality that most Whites simply cannot handle.

    Rural Whites attached themselves to a corporate worshipping version of conservatism. I grew up around such conservatives and there is no detaching them. If I brought up that corporation that had plenty of money yet only wanted to hire H-1Bs the average conservative would still mumble about socialism or big government being the problem. They just can’t disconnect at this point.

    Liberal Whites attached themselves to the idea that White people are the problem. They don’t say this explicitly but it is what they believe. In their minds White people are a net problem for the world and especially in America. They view themselves as exempt and part of a special class that isn’t like those nasty rural Whites. The Good Whites that will save the minorities.

    I have worked with both groups and most on both sides are hopeless. They are embedded with pre-existing narratives that they can’t shake. I am talking highly intelligent people with degrees. They want one side to be true and have the solutions. I don’t even think 1/100 people can fully face the current situation. I think it is more like 1/250. They tend to be people that have been exposed to various environments and remain skeptical of both sides.

  234. @Rurik

    Oh well, according to Dmitry Orlov, those East Europeans did very well out of Russians after WWII.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/5jhXNaZDOqI?si=MhdTugd4Zy9gcDMh

    At around the 12 min he says Russians built them hospitals and schools and tried to bring them up to world standards.

  235. Rurik says:
    @Commentator Mike

    At around the 12 min he says Russians built them hospitals and schools and tried to bring them up to world standards.

    I’ve heard the same thing said about Gaza, and yet look how ungrateful they all are?!

  236. @peterAUS

    Agreed, the sadistic evil aimed at the Western 99% is not going away. Does not matter who one votes for, how educated or high IQ anyone is. Barring an Act of God, the future will look something like this-

    ‘Black Mirror’

    Or pick any horrible world from this old series

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aotgo6Qsl2c&pp=ygUOc2xpZGVycyBlbCBzaWQ%3D

    The Future is now and it’s not at all rosy or cheery

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  237. peterAUS says:
    @ServesyouallWhite

    …The Future is….not at all rosy or cheery…

    Looks that way. For most of us, anyway.

    We can accept that or not.

    If we do accept that we have three options:
    1. Ignore it. Works, looks like it, for the most people.
    2. Bitch and moan about it but, of course, do nothing about it. Sounds familiar?
    3. Try to devise how, most likey, somebody could manage such future.

    Would you have any thoughts/ideas about that 3rd? Perhaps even links to those who offer something of substance ? Not the usual “prepper/revolution” stuff, mind you. Something feasible.

  238. 2. Bitch and moan about it but, of course, do nothing about it. Sounds familiar?

    Of course it sounds familiar, you are posting on TUR.

    Looks like it.
    Not there are many ideas to start with, mind you.

    By your above earlier statement, ‘Option #3’ is negated.

    Would you have any thoughts/ideas about that 3rd? Perhaps even links to those who offer something of substance ? Not the usual “prepper/revolution” stuff, mind you. Something feasible.

    Since ‘Option 3′ is negated, the answer to your above question is a big ’10-Nope’.

    Now I’ll go by ‘the numbers’

    1. I hate humanity, I don’t care which race, all humans are vainglorious monkeys that only excel in screwing shit up, time and again.

    After learning about the Sumerian epics, I always though Enlil was a total nut in wanting to wipe out humans because they made too much ‘noise’ (brought, caused, too much chaos), but now believe he may have actually been on to something, while Enki was just a forerunner of today’s mad High IQ scientists who go to very nefarious lengths to protect their quack projects regardless of the potential detriment to life and property.

    2. I am a believer in ‘The Fourth Turning’ theory. And am actually looking forward to the ‘End of All Days’ as human failure is cyclical and unavoidable for each iteration of civilization.

    3. There is no way to ‘manage’ a dystopian future or living in a dystopian future. Dystopia is, by intentional design, set up so even if ‘overthrown’ it actually survives into another form.

    As far as humans are concerned, evil always finds a way to endure.

  239. Biden, under the direction of the neocons, said he would fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Trump is following that directive.

  240. Avery says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Here you go Mike.
    Not from Dmitry Orlov, a Russian, who you know, is obviously lying.
    But from PM Fico of Slovenia*.
    A Slovak: not a Russian.

    [USSR Paid for Europe’s Freedom, I’m Going to China to Honor That: Slovak PM Fico | APT]

    “USSR** paid for Europe’s Freedom”

    I am sure you know there is an active Nazi/Hitler apology commentariat @UNZ constantly excoriating USSR and the Red Army for their alleged crimes during WW2.
    But this same cohort is strangely silent about the unimaginable crimes of their Nazi heroes in the lands they invaded and conquered.

    If it weren’t for the Red Army and the sacrifice — 25 to 30 million — of the peoples of the Soviet Union, Western Europe today would be part of Großdeutschland, and there would be no Slavic countries left in East Europe.
    ______________________________
    * whom the GloboWest tried to assassinate.

    ** when he says USSR, obviously it means the peoples of USSR, overwhelmingly Slavic peoples, and of those — overwhelmingly Russian people.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  241. @John Johnson

    Hey John, here are some more ‘White-friendly’ harmless hi-jinks, from our ‘dot indian friends’-

    https://revolver.news/2025/08/dark-side-of-indian-immigration-ne-hotel-sex-trafficking-story-is-worse-than-you-thought/

    Notice the 2 smiling pajeets in the top row of mugshots, and notice the hateful brahman caste bitch at the end of the second row.

    It would be nice if Jared Taylor could take a break from negroes for once and make some articles about the dot pajeets as I am sure many if not all of the rescued sex traffic victims were White, and more so because going by this latest indian on White predation, it looks like the dots infesting America are trying to begin replication of the highly successful pakistani rape/grooming/trafficking gangs over in the UK.

    If I had to name one thing that causes me to curse White America eternally, it’s with bringing these diabolical pieces of cow shit over into the United States and protecting them to this very day.

  242. @israel shamir



    Video Link

    Assange 1.31 : “On the 9/11 issue generally, I don’t think it is particularly important.” (2010)

    17 December 2010 https://www.jpost.com/international/wikileaks-employs-israeli-swedish-holocaust-denier yet he says “I can’t accept the Mossad and / or the Jews as the perpetrators of the 9/11.”

    26 December 2016 https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235045384-wikileaksassange-linked-to-rothschilds/ The Puppetworld Post has uncovered many links between Wikileaks & the international Rothschild network.

    Vlad P & drumpf aka the rigger of the 2024 “elections”are chabad lubavitch buddies btw / drumpf was made KGB asset codename “Krasnov” in 1987 when he was doing real estate business in Moscow …still active in that role apparently / now as illegitimate WH resident.

    CIA O

    • Thanks: Rurik
  243. @Avery

    Thanks.

    But from PM Fico of Slovenia*.

    Should be Slovakia not Slovenia. But you know that as shown in your next line – “Slovak”.

    • Agree: Avery
  244. They don’t lose, but from Russia’s perspective, they don’t win, at least in the case of Russia’s dissolution, like the picture of Cuba I posted above.

    So your new position is that Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is a fight against Jewish bankers where their position doesn’t change? How is the war against them? Do they know there is a war against them? How would they notice they are a target?

    you’re looking at the conflict in a very parochial way, JJ

    I asked specifically as to how a rural Russian family benefits from this war over a Jewish investor. If that is too narrow then explain how the Russian people benefit from this war over US industries like LNG. If your answer is “I don’t know” then be honest about it.

    Your response so far amounts to ……. stop asking about specific gains……international Jews lose even if they don’t actually lose anything……and they don’t gain anything.

    You are just plain full of shit. Why not admit to yourself that your support Russian Imperialism and that Putin is pals with Jews? It would be far less of a burden than the contradictory narrative you try to maintain.

    This is the triumph of Jews over their ancient and eternal enemies, who have ‘persecuted, (refused to be their slaves) the Jews ‘for two thousand years!’.

    Now, the Jews have their slaves.

    but please notice who is not there

    You are actually trying to make some sort of visual point by showing a picture of Western leaders without Putin? So you can’t make a rational argument like a White man and are actually resulting to the use of pictures. Quite pathetic.

    Well right before the war Putin met with those same globalists at a Jewish forum. Here they all are together:

    Putin is in fact such good pals with Netanyahu that Uncle Netty made this banner of the two besties:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-another-league-netanyahu-touts-friendship-with-putin-in-new-billboard/

    Putin is in all kinds of pictures with Netty where the two smile at each other like fags. They give each other creepy long stares. Would you like some of those pictures? Do you recoil when you see them? Is that reality too harsh for you?

    I don’t know how stupid you actually are, JJ, and if all of this goes straight over your head, but I’m putting it all out there just the same, because you seem so confused, and I thought I’d try to help you.

    You keep calling me stupid and yet can’t give a simple explanation of how the Russian people benefit from this war over Jewish investors in the West. You are unable to do it.

    Everyone can see that you aren’t able to explain yourself like a White man. You go on long rambles about ZOG and yet can’t simply state which Jews lose exactly and how. What you want to do is point at Jewish shadows and avoid questions on how having Orthodox Slavs kill each other will make the shadow Jews lose.

    If Putin was Jewish then you would be railing about how this is all obviously a Jewish conspiracy to reduce the Orthodox population. Which he is doing and also importing Muslims to replace them.

    What you really have is an emotional attachment to Putin. You have a desire for a dictator to right the West and you project that desire onto a dwarf who praises the Jews and puts them in his government while killing Slavs and importing Muslims. You aren’t working from a rational level. Your overall outlook is emotional as you have an attachment to Putin that contradicts your ideals. You would not defend the actions of Putin if he was Jewish. You compromise your own values for the sake of fantasy. A fantasy of a dwarf dictator somehow sticking it to Jews that you can’t even rationally define yet explain how they materially lose.

    Fantasies eventually end and so will yours. Whites will look back at this war as just plain stupid and its defenders will look like complete assheads. That will include you.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  245. @Commentator Mike

    The fact is that the Soviet subsidised its allies standard of living, whereas, in the Yankee Empire, ie Latin America, the VAST majority lived in squalour for decades, with regular massacres, mass torture and disapearances to keep the rabble in line, and intense economic pillage by the West. The Western Euros were allowed to have a higher material standard of living, but only while the threat of communism existed. After 1989, Europe has more and more begun to resemble the USA with increasing inequality, elite wealth, and societal upheaval driven by massive immigration of people from vastly different societies.

  246. @Been_there_done_that

    One Quisling does not make a summer, troll. Even a lying troll like you, Has Been, must appreciate that. ONE, against the entire Russia ruling elite, who realise the danger their country was in, from unhinged Western aggression. No doubt well-rewarded for his treachery.

  247. @Been_there_done_that

    Has Been is plainly paid by the word, regurgitatioN paid double. The same old lies, over and over. It was NOT Russia, impinging on Europe or America’s borders after 1989-it was the West on Russia’s. It was not Russia that ignored Minsk I and II, and effectively NATOised the Banderite regime-it was the West. It was not Russia refusing a security arrangement for all Europe-it was the West that refused to consider Russian security at all. It was not Russia that withdrew from the ABM Treaty, the INF Treaty the ‘Open Skies’ arrangements etc-it was the West. And it was NOT Russia who murdered 15,000 civilians in the Donbass-it was your Banderite idols.
    Speaking of which, you must be gutted that your idol, Parubiy, the neo-Nazi Banderite capo, was liquidated yesterday. I can almost hear your tears falling.

  248. Rurik says:
    @John Johnson

    you’re looking at the conflict in a very parochial way, JJ

    I asked specifically as to how a rural Russian family benefits from this war over a Jewish investor. If that is too narrow then explain how the Russian people benefit from this war over US industries like LNG. If your answer is “I don’t know” then be honest about it.

    you’re asking the wrong questions, JJ

    this is a macro, global conflict between ZOG and those few states like Russia, (and now Slovenia),

    https://www.rt.com/news/623663-slovenia-israel-genocide/

    who are not under the thrall of slavish fealty to ZOG, like the West is, and particularly the U.S. and UK.

    This is a conflict to determine who will control much of Eurasia in the 21st century. The ((unilateral power)), or a multi-polar world based on actual rules and laws, rather than the laughably Orwellian ((“Rules Based Order”)), where powerful Jews decide on any given day what the rules are, like in Gaza.

    But you’re (no offense ; ) too stupid to comprehend such things.

  249. No, trump does not “make good”. This is just misdirection and the author knows exactly what he’s doing. Trump is only “making good” for jewish power, to which he is enslaved to.

  250. @Robert Bruce

    Crime was not down by 30% in DC. They were just not reporting it. Communists always allow crime to run rampant.

    The crash is coming no matter what. Your claim that Trump is going to crack down has no merit. When the crash finally hits the feds are going to withdraw to their strongholds and leave everyone to fend for themselves. They will not have the resources to lock down 300,000,000 people.

    Do you ever think 1st?

  251. anastasia says:
    @John Johnson

    They gain security. Was there a lack of security when Russia sent missiles over to Cuba. JFK stopped it on the threat of not just war, but nuclear war. Was he wrong?
    Ukraine shares a 1700 mile border with Russia. NATO put missile bases in those eastern bloc countries, i.e. Poland Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia, as soon as they came into NATO and that would have been done if Ukraine came into NATO. From 2008 when NATO was threatening to bring Ukraine into NATO, Putin kept protesting and kept warning them what would happen if they did that. It was the red line for Putin, and that was no secret. Would we tolerate Mexico having Russian missile bases in that country? Russia cannot afford to have NATO missile bases on the 1700 mile border with Russia. They would have to be out of their minds, especially since the Soviet Union fell, and the west have had designs on Russia, to break it apart – to Balkanize it. In my opinion, that is why the west wanted war in Ukraine – to weaken Russia without using their own troops.

    There is another reason. They have relatives in eastern Ukraine. In those sections of Ukraine in the east, most of the people there are Russian and many have relatives in Russia proper. When Russia invaded Ukraine, one of the immediate reasons was because the Ukrainian government was going to engage in a major attack on the eastern Ukrainian people – on their own people! They were already engaged in skirmishes and many eastern Ukrainians lost their lives getting killed by theUkrainian government. That was the reason why Trump during his first administration was the first President to send weapons over to the Ukrainian government – so they could kill their own people in their civil war. Don’t you remember Trump saying, “Obama gave them blankets; but I gave them weapons.” Those weapons were used by the Ukrainian government to kill Ukrainian people – those of eastern Ukraine.

  252. @anastasia

    It was the red line for Putin, and that was no secret. Would we tolerate Mexico having Russian missile bases in that country?

    You failed to answer the question posed to you before (What do the people of Russia gain from this war?) and instead spouted out discredited war propaganda. You chose a misleading analogy – which has already become a silly cliché – that actually highlights why it was appropriate for eastern European countries to station defensive missiles on their territory. NATO was not threatening to invade Russia, but Putin stated in March 2018 that he wanted to undo the breakup of the USSR if he had a chance, so the threat of military conflict came from Russia. Putin had no legitimate rationale for setting any red lines. See my comment and translated quotes from a Russian diplomat in comment #224 above, and ghe preceding comment #218.

    You fail to distinguish between offensive and defensive missile systems, as well as between historical issues, such as prior territorial presence and contemporary ambitions of reconquest. In light of the Alta Aztlan movement, the prevalence of Spanish speaking population in places like southern Texas or California, a similar language and cultural situation exists as in eastern Ukraine, so in this case the analogous threat would clearly be from Mexico, especially if it had Russian bases.

  253. anastasia says:
    @anastasia

    I said it in my first line. They (the people of Russia) gain security from not having missile bases on the perimeter of their country.

    As far as the immediate reason for the invasion (why it happened when it did), they (the Russian people) gain the lives of their relatives living in Eastern Ukraine.

  254. @anastasia

    They (the people of Russia) gain security from not having missile bases on the perimeter of their country.

    This is a completely paranoid illusion. Ukraine was not on the verge of being allowed to join NATO before the war anyway; a defensive missile in western Romania, near Serbia, was far away. The likelihood of what you alluded will surely be higher after the war than was the case before. The relatives were more likely to have died over the past three years than prior to the war.

  255. anastasia says:
    @anastasia

    It was only a matter of time. Making Ukraine NATO was a threat to Russia for a very long time – since 2008. But the immediate reason for the invasion was the plan for a major attack on the eastern (Russian) Ukrainians.

    All the steps taken by the west were taken to provoke Russia to invade Ukraine. They were pulling a Brzezinski on Putin. Each step the west took to make Ukraine a NATO country became more threatening than the last one. Initially, was the threat of it; later the coup d’etat 2014 led by the west; later the breach of the two Minsk accords also led by the west; later still the US sending arms to the Ukranian government so that they could kill the eastern Ukranians; and finally the Ukranian government’s plan for the most major and devastating attack on Eastern Ukraine. Putin probably would have waited for them to accept Ukraine into NATO to invade, but the plan for the major attack on Eastern (Russian) Ukrainians was the immediate cause for invasion at the time it took place. Had he waited for Ukraine to be accepted into NATO, we would have had WWIII.

    In my opinion, the long range plan was to tempt Russia to invade Ukraine, like Brzezinski tempted the Soviets to invade Afghanistan to “give the Soviets their own Vietnam”, to overthrow the pro-Soviet regime. In Ukraine, they tempted Russia to invade Ukraine, to carry out a long war using Ukranian troops, to weaken Russia with this war and with their unjustified sanctions (the reason they continue to send weapons even though they know they are losing is to prolong the war for as long as they can) so eventually they could weaken Russian to the extent of allowing them to break it apart – to Balkanize it and forever end the growing threat that such a big country poses to US hegemony.

    It’s all so obvious.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  256. @anastasia

    But the immediate reason for the invasion was the plan for a major attack on the eastern (Russian) Ukrainians.

    Funny, that Putin didn’t even mention this amidst his numerous phony narratives. You are obviously extremely paranoid. Nobody has presented any evidence for such a concrete “plan”. There might have been occasionally heavier troop concentrations in the east, but that was during times when Russian troops were conducting military exercises close to the border.

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