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Syria At War

The Russians feel fighting Turkey is below their dignity, and prefer to keep the fighting in Idlib as a proxy war. The dignity point is important: traditionally, the Russians go to war only with great powers. Smaller military encounters are a matter for a local commander. Even cruel Winter Campaign 1940 against Finland had been conceived as a decision of Leningrad District; the battles with the Japanese in 1936 and 1939 were carried by the Far East Military District, not by Soviet Russia. Imperial Turkey was a worthy adversary for Russia, and the two empires crossed their sables twelve times, if not more. But not now.

At the previous crisis, in 2015, after Turkey downed the Russian Su-24, Russians stopped buying Turkish tomatoes and Russian tourists were told to avoid Turkish resorts; visas were withdrawn and media went ballistic. That was enough to make Turks regret their hasty decisions, for Turkey needs Russia as the market for its fruits and vegetables, supplier of tourists and the working place for its building companies. During the West-instigated attempted coup against Erdogan, Russia supported the embattled Turkish ruler; afterwards, the Russian – Turkish relations greatly improved. Turkey had bought Russian S-400 missile defence system, entered Astana agreement with Russia and Iran, had built the hub for Russian gas and had Russia guarding its back in the confrontation with Kurds.

Idlib undid much of goodwill between the twain, but Russia still does not want to be seen as fighting Turkey. In Russian book, the Turks fight the Syrian government, while Russia stands out and above the dogfight. Russians carefully observe the notions of Sochi agreement. Before landing the mighty strike that killed dozens (if not hundreds) of Turkish soldiers, the Russians checked with Turkish HQ whether there are any Turks in the area to be assaulted; only after the HQ (erroneously) replied there aren’t any, the area had been bombed with devastating efficiency. “They died because they joined the rebel forces” – the Russians answered the Turkish complaint.

Now Bashar al-Assad wants to recover Idlib, the last province that does not accept the rule of Damascus. The Syrians feel the civil war lasted too long, and it should be finished-off. The Russians agree with them. In Sochi, the Russians and the Turks agreed to give Idlib some time-out to sort out things. During this time-out, Turkey was supposed to discipline the rebels, but it failed to do so. The rebels kept fighting and shelling the Syrian government and Russian forces. They were a thorn in the flesh for Syrians, Shias and Russians alike.

The Turks had a problem: what to do with jihadists of Idlib? They were understandably hesitant to accept them on their own land, and would prefer them to stay where they are. It would be acceptable if they were restrained, but they could not, and unwilling to be restrained. This problem has no easy solution. The Russians and Syrians probably would agree for another time-out, if two main roads M4 and M5 were secured under Damascus forces. This is the most probable compromise to be achieved by Erdogan and Putin when they meet.

Putin didn’t want to meet with Erdogan at all. He felt these meetings turn the proxy Syrian conflict into direct Russian-Turkish confrontation, and that (see above) is below Russian dignity. However, Erdogan feels that dealing with Assad is below his dignity. Damascus was a vilayet, a centre of Syrian province in the Ottoman Empire; and the Sultan (as people call Erdogan half-jokingly) can’t negotiate with the pasha of a vilayet. Rising level of violence in Idlib had forced Putin to agree for a meeting.

Putin and Erdogan need each other. There is no substitute for Erdogan. All other prominent Turkish statesmen who could possibly take his place would be worse for Russia. All of them are pro-NATO, pro-US or pro-EU men. Some of them could make peace in Syria, but at high price on other important for Russia issues. Erdogan needs Putin, too. Putin is the only statesman of high calibre that is likely to support him against all odds. Putin can keep Turkish economy from going under. The EU and US could help Turkish economy, too; but they would send Erdogan to jail.

Sanity and logic say that Putin and Erdogan must find modus vivendi. Erdogan could concentrate on the most important issue for Turkey in Syria: prevention of independent Kurdistan rising on Turkish border. Putin could give some ground in Idlib, leaving a narrow strip of land in Turkish hands, as long as highways go to Assad. However, Putin and Erdogan do not act in vacuum, and sanity and logic could be silenced by other urges. Shia forces in Syria and Damascus government want their victory. Rebels are not a yielding lot, too.

I have a warm spot for the Turkish ruler. He is not universally popular; many Turks hate him; Turkish economy is in a bad shape; by going to Libya he overextended his resources. Still he is a great man. If he would come to his senses and make peace with his neighbour Bashar al-Assad, his problems would be solved. It would be a difficult decision, bearing in mind many years of strife and bad blood; but great rulers are those who make hard decisions.

Such a man was Marshal Mannerheim who embraced Josef Stalin in 1944. He survived, and Finland survived and flourished thanks to this decision. Putin had tried to make peace with Ukrainian presidents; he befriended Erdogan. Trump had met with Kim, tried to make peace with Taliban. This is a sign of true greatness.

ORDER IT NOW

Erdogan probably could reach a passable agreement with Putin. But the real solution is found on the way to Damascus; friendship with Assad is the best asset Erdogan can achieve. Befriend your neighbours, and fear none. Return refugees home, and your citizens will love you again. Danger of Syrian Kurdistan will be removed. Let Assad bother with rehabilitation of Islamist warriors. Turkey will be loved by its Arab neighbours, as it was before the unhappy Arab Spring.

However, the wounds caused by radicalisation of Muslim youth in 1980s won’t heal soon. Intelligence services learned of huge potential of energy, activism, readiness for sacrifice in this numerous population group and decided to tap it for their purposes. They used it against Russia in Afghanistan in 1980s and in Chechnya in 1990s; against the Arab world for last twenty years. It is a problem, for these young men are naïve idealists who were misdirected to do devil’s work, and this problem has no easy solution.

Corona isn’t Beer

There is nothing to panic about, said Trump about the Corona, and he is right. Corona is a mental virus of fear, not much else. We have a sterling proof: the Diamond Princess liner had been marooned in the ideal, for virus, circumstances of single ventilation system. Many people had got the decease, but only two persons, aged over 80, had died. No children became sick. Apparently it could be dangerous only for people over 60. There was no reason for panic at all.

I am proud of being a virus denier, and it feels good to have President Trump on our, deniers, side. We know it is less dangerous than usual flu, even if more contagious. Ignore, and everything will be fine.

The panic occurred for two reasons: incredible quarantine measures undertaken by the Chinese, and media going into full volume fear-spreading. The first reason remains somewhat obscure. We do not know why the Chinese did it. There are many possible explanations, including some domestic reasoning. Perhaps some important people in Chinese leadership wanted (or still want) to bring the obedient Chinese to the state of rebellion, as it happened in Soviet Russia in Gorbachev’s days. Or it is an exercise in civil defence. Or the virus is ethnic-specific, or whatever. Anyway outside of its home province of Hubei, the virus didn’t make inroads.

There are very few non-Chinese victims of the disease, and its spread in Iran, the US enemy of choice, makes us think of it being a designed bio-weapon, despite its modest severity.

Media had made too much out of it; that can be explained by Chinese quarantine measures, or by sensationalism inherent in media. Alternatively, it could be substitute for World War Three, an event to trigger force majeure clause of so many undeliverable contracts. It could be a tool to limit citizens’ freedoms and liberties by usual suspects, like they did after 9/11. Sooner or later, we shall know the reasons. Whatever it was, it is not mortal danger of the virus.

Bernie and AIPAC

A lot of surprises in Dem primaries! Sanders’ victory in first three primaries, a very rare occurrence. And then victory of Biden in SC primaries. Afro-Americans are an obedient folk despite their reputation of rebelliousness. They voted for Biden, the Senile Thief of Ukraine, as their bosses told them to. That is why Clinton et al like them so much! Real rebels, like MLK or wonderful Cynthia McKinney are rare. The vast majority still does what they are told.

But the biggest surprise is Bernie Sanders’ decision to give a miss to AIPAC gathering. It is a sign of wisdom for politician. It means he knows the secret that many people know but nobody utters. American people are sick and tired of what they see as Jewish predominance, and in particular of its obvious Israeli angle. They won’t admit it even on the rack, but you have to see how their eyes flash when they hear that. Donald Trump captured the American hearts when he said to AIPAC, “You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money.” They didn’t understand what he meant exactly, but they thought it is a noble sentiment. Now Sanders had made the next step, refusing to come to AIPAC at all.

The received wisdom is that you have to come to AIPAC hat in hand if you want to succeed in US politics. Bernie is right: people are tired of ordinary politicians. They want something different. The establishment calls that ‘populism’. By denying AIPAC, Bernie proclaimed his populist agenda. Even if he fails, he made a huge step on the way to release Americans from the Jewish bondage.

There is some irony that the Republican populist, often accused of antisemitism President Donald Trump gave to Israel everything they would like to have; and that the Dem populist Senator Bernie Sanders, a Jewish man from Brooklyn NY, will rise the banner of rebellion against Israeli occupation. Things still can change but it is an important lesson for all of us. People of Jewish origin are as unpredictable as the rest of us.

Silly racists believe that Jews are some bio-robots, always fitting the Jewish agenda. The reality is different. Free will is the Divine gift to Adam, and we all possess it, even if so many give it up for the reasons of convenience. Jews are not exceptional from this angle. Being Jewish is also a question of choice nowadays, like being a Native American for Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Millions of Americans who identify themselves as Jews aren’t considered ‘Jews’ by Orthodox Rabbis; they know it. If they still retain some Jewishness it is because they think it has positive value. The moment they will find out it is not so, the numbers of American Jews will shrink rapidly. Only Orthodox Jews will remain ‘Jews’, a small not-too-prosperous Amish-like minority.

If and when this melting of American Jewish identity will occur, the decision of Senator Sanders to skip AIPAC pow wow will be seen as a turning point in the right direction.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    ERDOGAN IS THE MADMAN OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

    Besides Netenyahu, Erdogan is a madman, who is now flooding Europe with aliens.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/europe-is-nicer-migrants-head-west-after-turkey-opens-border.html

    Turkey should never be allowed into EU or NATO.

  2. gotmituns says:

    this dumb virus hysteria is a bunch of malarkey.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Wally
  3. The panic is also because it kills the people in charge/with all the money! The mainstream does not show the death rate by age actively, and Trump may be right this is a cold, but at 73 and being a Big Mac lover, his odds of death are 10%ish if he catches it.

    Really, if they could be honest, they would quarantine those over 60, and let everyone else work.

    My question is more how many leaders will this take out, and will that be a problem for the world!

    • Replies: @Realist
  4. Turdy Erdy is a great man? Without him ancient and beautiful Syria would not been reduced to so much rubble. Much has been lost, the Syrian people have suffered greatly and have fled far and wide and all with the enabling support of this great monster.

    • Agree: Alfred, Tom Welsh
    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Wizard of Oz
  5. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Rational

    Don’t know about the EU but Erdogan’s support for terrorists shows that he’s a stellar example of the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. The only difference is that he supports a more entrepreneurial form of terrorism that differs slightly from NATO’s usual state sponsored terrorism.

  6. About the Corona virus:

    The Diamond Princess has 7 deaths now, not 2. The dying has just begun, I think.
    And now has 36 people severely ill. Under ‘future conditions’ when you and I get the virus, with hospitals clogged, most of these 36 would also die. But the Diamond Princess cases are all getting good intensive care, so the Case Fatality Rate will stay around 2 %. In most countries in the western world Case Fatality Rate will rise to 8 % for lack of ICU’s and as our governments do not take the necessary measures and still deny ‘airborne spreading’ and ‘asymptomatic spreading’.

    Dr. Mark G Wathelet did lead a team of scientists studying spreading of the Corona Virus family for many years on USA universities and is convinced this new Covid-19 spreads airborne. ( See his alarming letter to his incompetent government in Belgium : https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/03/02/virologist-advises-belgium-health-minister-country-is-unprepared/ )
    I look at dr. Chris Martensen ( neurotoxicologist) every day, for over a month now, and his predictions have always been correct, so far : https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom/videos

    This virus may have just as much impact on geopolitics as a war has. My guess is that China will be the winner. Yes, these are interesting times. America could be saved by the warmer weather. But if not it will loose terribly.

  7. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    The virus may remove Iran as a geopolitical actor in the Mideast for a while, if this video is a harbringer:

    Rumor also has it Ayatollah Khamenei is sick with Covid-19

  8. The normie narrative on MLK really ought to have died by now. And Cynthia McKinney is a loon.

  9. “If and when this melting of American Jewish identity will occur,”

    Well, just promote a false claim that there is an existential threat to Israel and see the response of melted Jewish Americans, guaranteed to be near 99% supportive. Also, you correctly characterized the servility of the black population to the Democrat party but seem to turn a blind eye to the Jewish population’s near total obedience to the organized Jewish global institutions. And this was not just a result of the creation of Israel. I remember reading old articles, before the creation of Israel, describing a Jewish “nation” consisting of organized Jewry. It’s always been, Is it good for the Jews?

    Also, the melting is strongly fought against by the Jewish community. DIdn’t one of the neocons in the Bush administration write a book in which he stated that Jews should live apart from the goyim? I believe the assimilation of Jews is called the “quiet holocaust” by some rabbis.

    • Replies: @Druid55
    , @Nonny Mouse
  10. NPleeze says:

    Silly racists believe that Jews are some bio-robots, always fitting the Jewish agenda.

    Jews are absolutely not a race – more like a cult (a tribe in historical terms). One chooses to be, or not to be, a Jew – contrary to the paranoia of Jewish propaganda.

    And by choosing to join a group that is best described by ZioNazism – extreme chauvinistic Judaeo-centrism – you, in fact, do choose to, in general, fit the Jewish agenda.

    The reality is different. Free will is the Divine gift to Adam, and we all possess it, even if so many give it up for the reasons of convenience.

    Indeed, and it was Marx who wrote that the the liberation of the Jew required his assimilation – his ceasing to be a Jew. And, as with many things, Marx was correct on that score. And many Jews have exercised this free will over the millennia to assimilate – the ones who have not, the “lumps” in the melting pot, that is their act of choice – it is not something with which they are born, it is not a “race”, any more than being an Aryan Nazi is a “race” (though being an Aryan is – and many Jews, if not the majority, are, in fact, Aryans).

    Millions of Americans who identify themselves as Jews aren’t considered ‘Jews’ by Orthodox Rabbis

    But Jews like that – including Bernie himself – are still free to move to Israel and ethnically cleanse Palestinians who trace their roots their for centuries, simply because of their “race” – or is it due to their proclaimed membership in the ZioNazi cult? After all, even an Ivanka Trump, assuming for the moment her father isn’t a crypto-Jew, has the “Right of Return” – and while she is definitely a cultist, subject to the foregoing caveat, not even a ZioNazi can argue the Abrahamic Covenant was made with someone like her (or, for that matter, any Ashkenazi “Jew”).

    • Replies: @ThereisaGod
  11. Wally says:
    @gotmituns

    – Indeed, ca. 50,000-70,000 die every year in the US alone from ‘regular’ flu.

    – The mere 6 that have died of the CV in the US are elderly & weak or had pre-existing medical problems.

    – Recall that 1,000 died in the US of the ‘swine flu’ in 6 months before empty suit Obama declared a state of emergency.

    – Trump declared a state of emergency for the CV this past January, while Congress was forcibly pre-occupied with the ‘impeachment’ hoax.

    The irrational Trump Derangement Syndrome is the real disease.

    The neo- Marxists have shot themselves in the foot again.

  12. NPleeze says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Without him ancient and beautiful Syria would not been reduced to so much rubble.

    ISIS was started without him and did not require his participation- main culprits in ISIS formation:

    * US, which, among many other things, trained all of its leadership at Camp Bucca and flew in loads of weapons from Libya to arm them;
    * Saudi Arabia, which has financed madrassas globally to prepare the zombie Salafist army and also finances their military operations;
    * the Gulf States, which financed the military costs of that zombie Salafist army (together with Saudi Arabia); and
    * France and UK, which created the volatile Middle East, including creating the ZioNazi and Saudi Barbaric cancers), and provide intelligence and other support to ISIS.

    Erdogan is more of an opportunist, he alone would not have started this conflict, but it would have started without him.

    Bear in mind that Syria was part of Turkey for many centuries. Whatever (absurd) claim Russia has to Ukraine, Turkey has vastly more claim to Syria (and Germany had vastly more claim to Sudetenland).

    • Replies: @Alfred
  13. Dumbo says:

    Turkey is not to be trusted, ever. Period. Everyone knows, or should know that.

    Corona panic is probably just an excuse to ramp up vaccination campaigns, also I’m sure someone in Wall Street made or is making a lot of money with this scare.

    If they still retain some Jewishness it is because they think it has positive value. The moment they will find out it is not so, the numbers of American Jews will shrink rapidly.

    This brings to mind a period in European history about which E. Michael Jones talks about, in which many Jews converted to Christianity (some kept crypto though). So much that they had to increase their numbers from Khazaria.

    On the other hand, the Nazis seemed to be quite effective at identifying people even with small amounts of Jewish ancestry, so perhaps if a new anti-semitism wave comes, there will be no separation of “bad jews” from “good jews” or even from “almost-not-jews”.

  14. While I agree with the sentiment I’m not holding my breath.

  15. Biff says:

    But the biggest surprise is Bernie Sanders’ decision to give a miss to AIPAC gathering.

    There’s a surprising number of politicians not attending, and me thinks it’s an internal move to deflect /reduce rising attention to the obvious influence the think tank has over the American politburo. It may be that Americans have become more aware of the powerful and sometimes negative influence of “The Lobby” and too much attention may be a bad thing. Just a guess.

  16. Dumbo says:

    Erdogan is a madman, who is now flooding Europe with aliens.

    Yes but whenever I see someone posting on Facespook about refugees crying or being oppressed and that they should be all let in, 9 out of 10 times it is a white woman. Usually single, or a single mom. More than Erdogan, these dumb cunts will be the death of Europe.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  17. LondonBob says:

    MLK always did what his handlers wanted him to.

  18. sally says:
    @Rational

    Intelligence services learned of huge potential of energy, activism, readiness for sacrifice in this numerous population [of naive victims of mind controlled devil worshiping idealist, who were used ], against Russia in Afghanistan in 1980s; against Chechnya in 1990s; and against the Arab world for last twenty years.

    Humans weaponized into cannon fodder, and used these human weapons against innocent humans targeted by mob paid mind control experts. The nation state has expanded the enablement of the corrupt mob intentions. The nation state is an array of slavery and terror controlled societies which allow the mob central command and distributed control over 8 billion humans. This has been accomplished by dividing 8 billion humans into 206 different human mind and behavior control containers (nation states). The humans in each nation state are taught to defend the nation state against all of the other nation states. <= only obedient human devils mentally equipped to use terror to enslave the masses are permitted to leadership positions within control the 206 different nation state franchises. These OHDs are easily

    State sponsored terrorism is really not really state sponsored terrorism, it is instead, better understood to be terrorism and slavery initiated by and conducted by the mob, by and through the convenient device of the nation state. The nation state is convenient because it has the authority and firepower necessary to enforce its rules(laws).

  19. “The Turks had a problem: what to do with jihadists of Idlib?”
    Nonsense. The problem is Assad’s — give him the space to liquidate the problem & problem over. But quite the opposite, Turkey has done everything to support the terrorists, including inserting their own troops & heavy equipment. Why ? Author kind of avoids this point, but Ergoden has territorial ambitions in Syria beyond the old “the Kurds ! the Kurds !” hysteria/buffer zone.
    As for “the virus” ? The author is proud to be on board with Trump on a scientific issue ?? We “know” its less “dangerous than the usual flu ? Do we, indeed ? This from Naked Capitalism today:

    “The case fatality rate — the percentage of known infected people who die — is between 2% and 4% in Hubei province, and 0.7% in other parts of China, he said.

    The lower rate outside of Hubei is likely due to the draconian social distancing measures China has put in place to try to slow spread of the virus. Other parts of China have not had the huge explosion of cases seen in Hubei, Aylward said.

    A case fatality rate of between 2% to 4% rivals and even exceeds that of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which is estimated to have killed upwards of 50 million people. Even a case fatality rate of 0.7% — which means 7 out of every 1,000 infected people would die — is sobering. It is seven times the fatality rate for seasonal flu, which is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people a year globally.”
    So the lower rate is only 7 times more dangerous than seasonal flu ?
    The author is on firmer ground with Bernie: he does indeed deserve a big tick for not attending AIPAC. For all his minuses, that’s one hell of a plus.

  20. Smith says:

    Why do hardcore islamics i.e. Turks, Saudi and Pakistan always serve as jew whores every times? Erdogan even goes out to say something about Palestinian oppression but then he goes to bomb and kill syrians just like jews do. And now turks are unleashing refugees to breed out europeans, also with the support of israeli and jewish NGOs.

    Ask yourself, why do the hardcore islamics serve the jew agenda?

    • Replies: @Jila
  21. Tom Welsh says:

    ” The Syrians feel the civil war lasted too long, and it should be finished-off”.

    A slight inaccuracy in an excellent article.

    To call the war in Syria a “civil war” is like describing Ebola or TB as autoimmune diseases.

    • Agree: Jila
  22. Tom Welsh says:

    “The Turks had a problem: what to do with jihadists of Idlib? They were understandably hesitant to accept them on their own land, and would prefer them to stay where they are. It would be acceptable if they were restrained, but they could not, and unwilling to be restrained. This problem has no easy solution”.

    Killing them all. Has anyone considered killing them all?

  23. Tom Welsh says:

    “Damascus was a vilayet, a centre of Syrian province in the Ottoman Empire; and the Sultan (as people call Erdogan half-jokingly) can’t negotiate with the pasha of a vilayet”.

    Self-important rubbish. Britain was a Roman province – as were France, Belgium, Spain and Portugal, all of North Africa, all of Turkey and the Near East, Yugoslavia, Romania…

    Does that mean the Italian president and PM are too important to meet anyone from those countries?

    For that matter, do the rulers of Britain demean themselves by talking to Indians, South Africans, Kenyans, Australians, New Zealanders or Canadians? (Or US leaders, come to that).

    No, Erdogan is just a pompous jumped-up little barbarian.

  24. Wielgus says:

    I am not sure Erdoğan is even a fully rational actor on the world stage, much less a great man. The Turks who “hate him” (and he has been bitterly divisive, especially in recent years) also tend to be the smarter ones. The ones who love him are numerous but the intellectual quality might be revealed by the AKP youth wing leader a couple of years back who opined that the world is flat, or the former mayor of Ankara who maintained that the Americans are responsible for earthquakes.

  25. Anyway outside of its home province of Hubei, the virus didn’t make inroads.

    You must have written this more than a week ago. Currently 52 have died in Italy within just a few days, mainly in the north, over two thousand cases, more than 160 classified as serious. The rapid viral outbreak in the regions of Lombardy and Veneto triggered the stock market downturn last week. Perhaps you could argue they would have all died soon anyway from other issues.

    Regular updates here:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    I’d be curious to know if most of the younger people who died were cigarette smokers.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  26. Wielgus says:

    Erdoğan was an Islamist street hoodlum in the turbulent 1970s and he is much the same now, just operating on a bigger canvas. Sabre-rattling Syria and threatening Europe with refugees is just the Istanbul street tough of decades ago writ large.

  27. melpol says:

    Eurasia is the spawning ground of most Jews it was the place that gave them the Genes that made them smart and clever. Many emigrated to the US and retained their Jewish Genetic identity. Israel has become a place where the original Jews from Eurasia are being mixed with Sephardic and Arab blood. It is no longer a place of pure Jewishness. Southern Florida and NYC is the last stronghold of original Jewry. There you will find the smart and clever Jewish Genes in abundance.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Wally
    , @TkA
  28. “The Russians feel fighting Turkey is below their dignity, and prefer to keep the fighting in Idlib as a proxy war.”

    Sorry, but that doesn’t begin to describe Russia’s position.

    With regard to the lunatic antics of Erdogan, it is essential to remember what a pragmatist Putin is. Putin also is a very cautious man, never inclined to do anything threatening Russia’s future.

    He understands Erdogan perfectly, I’m sure, and as long as he believes he can obtain a satisfactory outcome with words and appropriate forceful gestures (Note Russian ships and large cargo planes went to Syria the other day, undoubtedly bringing a message of substantial heavy arms shipments), he will pursue that approach.

    But if Erdogan pushes things too far, he will regret it. Russia has complete air superiority, and Erdogan’s poor ground forces will quickly come to appreciate the fact. I tend to think Erdogan will not do so because he needs Russia badly to offset American drives. It was, after all, Putin who saved him from the American-engineered coup.

    Remember how opposed to war Putin is, his central policy for Russia being the achievement of decades of peace allowing for future healthy growth.

    I’m talking about serious wars, not matters like fighting mercenary terrorists, and war with Turkey could be very serious. And then there’s the NATO connection.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  29. @Dumbo

    You are the only guy on Facebook. Or, err…at least you identify as a guy.

  30. @NoseytheDuke

    I agree that calling Erdogan a great man is a stretch. Perhaps if he were in contemporary competition with Phillip ‘ll of Spain one might make a case. But the author does prompt the thought that there were great opportunities to exercise wisdom and magnanimity after the Cold War which would have yielded a great peace dividend to the whole world but that America blew it comprehensively, artogantly and ignorantly. The opportunity was there for quite a few years in the 1990s to assist and welcome Russia and China into a respectful powersharing which could even have saved trillions as, despite the recruitment of the poor by the US Army Chinese and Russians would have cost a lot less if encouraged to help police the more dangerous and unruly parts of the world. There would of course have been chest beating renters in America (posing as intellectuals at think tanks) pointing to what the US was unnecessarily conceding to China but we can see now that they would have been wrong. And why shouldn’t Russia have an unthreatening relationship with NATO by now and a close economic relationship with the EU? A problem with American so-called (miscalled) democracy consisting comfortably with autocrats and dictators? Go pull the other one!!

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  31. @John Chuckman

    I am in no position to dispute the part America may have played in the attempted coup against Erdogan but I would like you to elaborate and disclose your evidence and sources. I am prompted to ask because you use the expression “American-engineered” which surely has different implications compared with “American encouraged” or even ” American supported”.

    I know of no actual evidence of support but it is hard to believe that the Gulenist coup would have been so incompetent if “engineered” by the CIA with no competition as it had for example in Chile (by the KGB – which I heard from the retired Australian head of foreign intelligence 20 years later) or in Vietnam in the 60s (though the .latter might have been on the second occasion an excess of enthusiasm by loccals).

    • Replies: @anonymous
  32. Thim says:

    Sanders never went to AIPAC in his life. So how could his missing AIPAC in his 78th year be a “surprise”.

    BTW, I just voted for Sanders, in Virginia. Trump can go to deuce.

  33. @Johan Vermeulen

    Yes not only that but in Perth, Western Australia we have had our first case and first death in one. he was a passenger on that ship.

    I personally was shocked and confused they did what they had with the Diamond Princess. It seemd like some sort of giant unethical experiment. No better way to infect everyone aboard I can think of. It was so blatant and insane I am left wondering why and my best guess is they may be looking for the one or two who do not succumb to the disease, in order to identify someone with useful genes or some other factor which could lead to a vaccine. That is my best guess. I cannot believe they did it out of sheer incompetence.

    I am also wondering why they are all still settling for a 14 day quarantine when it is over a month since we were informed categoriclly that it has been seen to lay dormant but still contagious for up to 24 and I may recall a mention of 28 days even. This means none of the quarantines being instituted are going to be very effective, some are bound to slip through and indeed this has been seen already.

  34. Is Mr. Shamir of Russian origin? He frequently omits articles: “Turkey had bought Russian S-400 missile defence system [and] entered Astana agreement with Russia and Iran…”, “Media had made too much out of it; that can be explained by Chinese quarantine measures, or by sensationalism inherent in media. Alternatively, it could be substitute for World War Three…” That’s a feature of Russian: it doesn’t have articles. Doesn’t make his comments any less interesting, of course; he’s as perceptive as they come.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  35. @melpol

    Why do they get the accolade of “original Jewry” instead of the descendants of the nutters who holed up at Masada and their less fanatical but not smarter cousins around the Middle East?

    Do you, by the way, regard the success of Israeli tech companies (save the one I invested in – Better Place, now bankrupt) as the product of the approx 40 per cent Ashkenazim who thereby maybe support Smart Faction theory which I can only, without research, attribute to a clever and amusing blogger with the pseudonym “La Griffe du Lion”?

    Actually I am not sure whether Smart Fraction Theory relies on having a median or average IQ of about 106 for a whole more or less homogeneous population or would be equally satisfied with a the number of over 106s being constituted largely by the distinct Normal Curve of a population with avg IQ 115 as used to be attributed to Ashkenazim. In fact I guess that it is Ashkenazics numbers with IQs over 120 or so which gives Israel its technological smarts. But OMG the Mizrahim, Temani and Ethiopian Jews must be a burden on the ….. American?? taxpayer.

    • Replies: @melpol
  36. Israel, you need to work on the usage in English of the definite and indefinite articles!
    https://www.talkenglish.com/grammar/articles.aspx

  37. @Wizard of Oz

    All that is needed for “the more dangerous and unruly parts of the world.” is nothing more than for the USA to stop making them that way. No need for policing anybody. That is a uniquely American veiwpoint. The idea the world needs a giant policeman. Sort of like Santa Claus but for bad kids. Quite weird and very worrying if one is part of the world. Also the US idea of policing is much more intrusive and violent with tendency to kill a lot of bystanders and innocent parties than most others tend to see the job. That is gleaned from what one sees domestically and in their wider adopted role on the world stage as well. Neither China nor Russia have ever expressed any desire for a job as world policeman and neither state has even suggested they feel there is a role for such an entity. It is almost as if they respected other people as equals and adults all. Weird idea to Americans? The thought that even people in poor countries, other religions or maybe different coloured skin can not only manage to govern themselves but also to make best use of their own resources. It isn’t a radical idea outside of the USA.

    • Agree: Jila
    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
    , @Wizard of Oz
  38. No clue if the coronavirus is going to be a pandemic or not. It is known China isn’t going to work. Supply chains are going down. Proctor and Gamble has already stated all their products will be impacted. Most of the US drugs are either made in China, or their base components start there. Also all most medical devices are produced there. All of which will make cleaning up after the sick, and doctoring the sick a bit of a problem til China gets back to production. So things can get a lot worse with, or even without, the coronavirus 19.

    Erdogan is an a**. He’ll never be a sultan, and is too petulant to be a diplomat. Here’s hoping the Syrians just kill off the rebels.

    Finally Bernie doesn’t have to go to AIPAC. His time spent on the kabbutz pretty much suggests he is a pro Israel. Not going is just about fooling the gentile on the left.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  39. @Rabbitnexus

    Another idea which is not radical outside of the USA is the concept of mutual benefits. Even between unequal partners in so much as one partner might have a big sword and the other just a little shiv with which to defend themselves. That should not be a reason for big sword to take advantage of little shiv. We are all born into the place and time we are. We have no say in it after we arrive if we ever did before. However if we are going to live in peace and security for ourselves and those closest to us, then the absolute hands down winner of strategies is mutual respect and following agreed upon rules of conduct. Agreements should not be entered into without total committment to honouring them because otherwise we can’t expect others to honour us in any way. That will not bring peace. Peace is also a good thing. It can be incredibly proftable for everybody if maybe not so massively profitable for a few. That also is not a radical idea outside the USA and I sincerely wish to live long enough to see th day an American presidential candidate can speak like that and actually get nominated and even elected. Without being shouted down by almost the entire country in outrage: FAT CATS at such an afront and threat to their profits and in a primal scream of USA USA USA by huge flocks of bovine citizens who will cheer for their own death sentence if it is by their chosen side in the placebo known as elections and a bit of flag humping and references to supporting the troops and appeals to American values and the American way.

    Huh! So that is my rant. Sorry you had to wear it but you triggered me and I must have been having a Libtard moment for that to happen. I’ve just seen too many American voices today talking about things which wil get Russian and American governments to stop fighting and so on. As if this is a two way street. it takes two to make a fight sort of thing. That just is not the case when the USA is one of them. Then everything that is needed to create the conflict and to solve the newly created problem arrives all in one circus troupe when the USA comes to town. Only takes one USA to make a fight. they could get a war going with a deserted island populated by coconut crabs and a few skinny monkeys. It could still take them billions of dollars and decades along with plenty of lost lives though for once they’d have to invent enemy dead completely rather than hide as many civilian deaths among creative definitions and book keeping magic as they can. But still it would require lots of speeches, media reporting and the whole country would be behind the idea of supporting the troops even if some hoped they weren’t killing too many of the enemy so they feel bad. No little kids or attractive young girls please, we’re squeamish enough to squeal if we see that but happy to not even think about it if we don;t have to see any. So the media always obliges. I am sure that even then eventually the US war machine would run out of targets and even though they cleared the island of every last coconut palm and skinny monkey. Even then there’d be a few crabs left to wave at them as they sailed away another war underb their belts, no more sure whether or not they won it than any other time and with absolutely nothing remotely useful achieved for the USA or the former island. Even the island will eventually regrow and some more monkeys will get marooned and end up new neighbors to the reviving crab population. There is no point to any of it. Other than for the masters of it all. The war Pigs. The pigs who snuffle at that great bloody, ground up guts, flesh, bones and brains of all the millions of people who have died in direct consequence of their insatiable appetites.

  40. Realist says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    My question is more how many leaders will this take out, and will that be a problem for the world!

    No, the elimination of most of the world leaders would be a godsend…as long as the majority fight to not let greedy bastards to get control again.

  41. melpol says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Eurasian Jews still exist in Israel but their numbers are diminishing. Fortunately there remains some high IQ Ashkenazim who do the mind bending technology jobs. First class Jews are the ones that were spawned in Eurasia, the rest are Arab Jews with less ability. Original Jews are called first class because most are clever and smart. Their racial purity must be preserved because they are unique and cannot be replaced.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Prajna
  42. ka says:

    “Turkish statesmen who could possibly take his place would be worse for Russia. All of them are pro-NATO, pro-US or pro-EU men.”
    Isn’t this true for a lot of countries with predominant muslim population? Indonesia,Malaysia Bangladesh,Pakistan , Egypt ,and other countries’s leaders and citizen adore USA-UK,stash their money in Switzerland or UK, grovel before US leaders ,and look forward to validation from the west. Their English media have no idea that a world exists outside the western frame of reference . They don’t know even when they talk of the QE, oil in dollars ,or flight of the looted money to the western world hope to connect the dots .between the neoliberalism and the sorry state of affairs in their own countries . They have faintest ideas about the existing nexus between terror and US-UK-Israel-Saudi .

    May be the language -English has enslaved the minds .

  43. Realist says:

    Perhaps Covid-19 is a virus that opens a channel/pathway to infection by TB and or pneumonia since deaths are caused by TB/pneumonia symptoms. It appears that antibiotics have a positive effect, while antivirals do not. Children seem to be unaffected by Covid-19 which is also the case for TB.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  44. Alfred says:
    @NPleeze

    Turkey has vastly more claim to Syria

    Damascus is the oldest current capital city in the world. It was the seat of an empire when the ancestors of the Turks were nomads in central Asia. The Turks only occupied Constantinople in 1453. If it were not for the interference of the British, French and Germans, the Russians would have reclaimed it several times already.

    Go read your history.

    At the rate at which that country is making enemies, it won’t be around for much longer. Anyway, most of the population is descended from the peasants of the Byzantine empire. The Turkish input was limited. They were forced by the sword to switch religions. DNA tests prove that. That is why DNA tests are banned in Turkey. 🙂

    Popular DNA tests are troubling Turks and shaking belief in their “Turkishness” as they find that, instead of being direct descendants of the Seljuk and Ottoman hordes who surged into Anatolia from Central Asia a millennium ago, they are instead part of the kaleidoscope of peoples who have lived in what is now modern Turkey and migrated there since time began.

    DNA-based tests shake Turks’ beliefs in their “Turkishness”

    Just look at today’s “Turks” and compare them to their Asian cousins.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @anonymous
  45. Coronavirus Hoax World Tour Hits California – Gavin Newsom 33 Masonic Hoax!

  46. @Rabbitnexus

    Up to a point Lord Copper! Set aside the idea of being the world’s policeman and I think you will find China and Russia also interested in exercising disciplinary violence over those they regard as dangerous and unruly e.g. the Uighurs and Chechens. Moreover Russia’s role in Syria tends to contradict your point as does China’s interference in Hong Kong.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  47. Kouros says:

    Also let us not forget that Jesus himself, till the day he died on the cross was Jewish, and just wanted the people of Israel to follow the path of righteousness… St. Paul was the first Christian…

  48. @Old and Grumpy

    I have China in the supply line for our factory in Australia. the factories which make a few components for our product, which ironically is the last of our industry left due to the Chinese imports. For the last couple of months nothing has moved inside or out of China but they have indeed begun to start up again as of the 2nd March. I’ve had confirmation from the one I affectionately call The Goblin Princess and she assures me the Goblin Kingdom (better than The Borg) is awakening from its period of inactivity. That is in Shenzhen by the way. I can say that she and the other liason I have with the Goblin Kingdom have remained calm, trusting in their government and generally feeling a part of something bigger. They were not saying it but I think they were conscious of doing humanity a service. I think in fact that they should be feeling that way. I never thought I’d say this and I don’t think they’ve stopped it from becoming a pandemic.

    If ever I saw one which worried me in terms of deadly pandemic this is it. I went back to sleep after the first week of the previous rounds of scaremongering over SARS and SWINE and BIRD flu, but this one is quite different. A primitive mind with a powerful computer given some terrible deadly powers as well from some unusual sources. However the Chinese have done something which should make the world sit up and pay attention. CIA and Falun Gong scaremongering aside, there has not been any evidence of violent crackdowns or dissent from any of the sources I have been probing. They did something nobody else could and it is not even due to their system of government despite it’s formidable power over most things. Chinese people more than most Asians who have a bit of it, have a tremendous sense of community. Of nationhood. They are quite something and they know it but they’d never be so rude as to say it themselves. In a better world they’d be due a global shout of appreciation for their effort at the least.

    I’d say right about Bernie but I do believe he just went to AIPAC after all so maybe he does want the nomination this time. That said he’s just another puppet for the usual suspects and we already know they ride every horse in the race or the horse isn;t in the race. Communism, which he is not even close to, was their invention too.

  49. @melpol

    I think you are neglecting the Iberian Jews though they no longer seem to own the Sephardic label but you remind me of a conversation I had with a Liberal rabbi friend who is at least as non-PC as I. He sort of defended the appalling Ultra Orthodox families and their 15 to 20 children on the grounds that they preserve the Ashkenazi genes. I would now have to say “Yes, but” after seeing in Jerusalem lines of retarded kids from those families being taken for walks. They are of course excessively inbred and one can’t help wondering if those families don’t have many of the genes for superior intelligence.

    • Replies: @Kim
  50. @Realist

    Dear Realist,

    I guess I am also a Realist. My source, Dr Wathelet, did study transmission of Corona viruses at Univ. of Cincinatti and later in Albuquerque. He does not say that the situation is hopeless, like a Chicken Little. He says: by not wanting to see this new reality, many people will die , needlessly.
    Here is some of his earlier work: https://jvi.asm.org/content/81/21/11620

    Your fountain of wisdom is Chicken Little. I prefer Schopenhauer: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

    The future will tell us how dangerous this new virus is. For now we can do no more than look for the best sources of knowledge.

    • Replies: @Realist
  51. melpol says:

    Being smart and clever has little to do with superior intelligence. Orthodox Jews might have some retarded children but most are smart and clever. Not every child with religious training keeps the Sabbath in their maturity. Many join Wall Street and become clever and smart investment brokers. One of my Jewish pals inherited a small sum, and increased it by becoming a loan shark. The point I am making is that he was illiterate and retarded.

  52. @Rational

    Erdogan is a madman, who is now flooding Europe with aliens.

    LOL. It is Merkel who invited the aliens. It is almost all the EU globalist rulers who are on board with the replacement migration, and their electorates keep voting them in. So Erdogan is just obliging, giving them what they want.

  53. My Turkish friend wrote an interesting response to my piece, and he asked me to post it while obscuring his name:
    dear Israel,
    i’ve read your column. some points on turkey, the “sultan” and others:

    – you know, i told you, i don’t trust the “sultan”. i don’t trust him
    since i saw him coming to his party hq to celebrate his election
    victory, hand in hand with the then u.s. ambassador eric edelman, in
    2002. i think, you know, who edelman is..

    – he and his party staff mainly studied in turkish religious schools,
    called the “imam-hatip lise” high schools, where religious education
    is a de facto copy of the religious education given to isis militants.

    – according to this, the secular kemalist republic is an “infidel
    state” which must be destroyed to revitalize the sharia based ottoman
    empire. a hypotetical parallel example might be: putin, upon joining
    an orthodox apocalyptic sect, tries to destroy the russian state to
    revitalize czarism and be the new czar after nikolas.

    – he and his fellow party men think, they have “god given rights” to
    rule following the footsteps of the last famous ottoman ruler sultan
    abdulhamid ii. and accordingly, these guys don’t think they are bound
    by any “worldly” rule or law, be it the international law, the turkish
    constitution or local turkish laws.. they also don’t honor elections.
    when they lose elections, they won’t deliver power peacefully. the
    judiciary is not independent anymore, they just obey the “sultan’s
    court” orders.

    – the ruling elite has strong ties with the international “muslim
    brotherhood”, an affiliate of the cia and mi5. and like every other
    muslim ruler, who is a member of the muslim brotherhood, they love
    money so much! remember sudan’s toppled muslim dictator, omar
    al-bashir, whose home was found to host some 130 million dollar stolen
    wealth, the same was true for the malaysian prime minister najib
    razak, also a man from muslim brotherhood, who was arrested after he
    lost elections, and banknote bulks worth of 270 million dollars were
    discovered at his home! the “sultan” is said to possess a wealth of
    more than 1 billion dollars in the form of cash, bank accounts and
    real estate in the gulf emirates, Singapore, Malaysia and elsewhere.
    his fellow men also have their “stashes”!

    – trump, the “sultan”s new ally (!) perpetuated investigations
    launched by the obama administration to discover the “sultan’s hidden
    treasury” and the sultan is constantly blackmailed by the americans,
    that he may lose all that wealth, branded as a thief and subjected to
    court trials unless he obeys america’s orders.

    – and because all of this, for syria, turkey never has been a good
    neighbor and a good partner. there were times when bashar and the
    sultan appeared to be close friends. but when bashar refused to share
    his power with the muslim brotherhood upon the sultan’s request,
    jihadists from all over the world invaded his country, who used turkey
    as the “jihadist highway”. the then prime minister of the sultan, mr
    davudoglu, called these jihadists as “a few angry sunni young men”,
    denying news that these people were bloodthirsty terrorists.

    – erdogan himself proclaimed, he is ready to wear “a priest’s robe”
    (that means, ready to cooperate with the devil) if needed to obtain
    power! (see attach). he got a prize from the anti def.league. when he,
    seemingly, got at odds with israel, he never returned that prize back.
    turkey has never been a threat to israeli interests nor to american
    ones throughout all that time; erdogan’s harsh words for israel or
    america are only lip service.

    – so, dear israel, unfortunately neither you, nor putin can find any guy
    in the turkish political elite, be it from the ruling party or the
    opposition, who isn’t pro american. you can also not find an active
    army general who is anti-american. some politicians are voluntarily
    pro american, others have their “files” in american hands and when
    they don’t “behave themselves” these “files” are put before them to
    remember, they may be ruined anytime.. there were once two political
    guys who were honestly anti-american: necmettin erbakan (erdogan’s
    mentor, abandoned by erdogan later), head of the refah party and prime
    minister of turkey in the 1990s. he was toppled by a “post modern
    coup” by the military. the other guy was muhsin yazicioglu, head of
    the small bbp party. that guy lost his life in a dubious helicopter
    accident in the taurus mountains when coming back from a political
    rally.

    – since 1946 turkey has lost her independence. as the french thinker
    regis debray once said, turkey is part of the “united states of the west”. debray goes
    ahead with his interesting story: as emperor marcus aurelius or
    emperor constantine once established “more than one” capital cities
    for the roman empire, like rome, sirmium and constantinople, for
    convenience of administrative and military action in the vast imperial
    territory — why not establish “more than one” capital cities for the
    U.S.W.: one time it may be washington, other time it may be london,
    berlin, jerusalem or ankara.. i think ankara is nowadays the active
    capital for the u.s.w.

    ps: i won’t comment these things under your unz column. they are only
    for you and for your friends, not for open publishing.. but you can
    use them in your openly published material without mentioning my name.
    i don’t want to be put in jail for indefinite time in a war-crazy
    country.. 😉

    like you, i personally made my peace with all nations in the middle
    east and eurasia; unfortunately, my country doesn’t.

    • Agree: Turk 152
    • Thanks: Alfred, Denis
    • Replies: @Lo
    , @AnonStarter
    , @Maiasta
  54. Wally says:
    @melpol

    said:
    “NYC is the last stronghold of original Jewry. There you will find the smart and clever Jewish Genes in abundance.”

    LOL

    Must be why sh-thole NYC is doing so very well.

  55. So sad to see Blacks give their precious votes to a Zionist con man like Biden and turn their back on a decent man like Sanders. Biden is a self proclaimed zionist and Zionists abhor Blacks for racial and ethnic reasons.

    Jim Clyburn is a low life House Negro ,a lackey of Aipac , just like the dead Elijah Cummins, and a dinosaur of the past.

    The future belongs to the American young progressives and not the fragile dinosaurs.

    Sanders , with all the vilification and demonisation, is standing tall and will certainly rub Clyburn and Biden’s noses into dirt.

    • Replies: @Wally
  56. What did the extremist mosques do to create?
    Accepted by the intelligance Agency’s around the world.
    When it all falls down, ton’t wine.
    Boomerang Effect.

  57. nickels says:

    Bernie can shun AIPAC all he wants, but when the rubber hits the road he’ll murder whoever the Israelis want him to because of, muh, holocaust.
    Search ‘Bernie Assad must go’.
    Plus, he’s a jew.

  58. Let’s take the last one first…

    AIPAC was created to beat up on the goyim and not the fellow homies, therefore, Bernie not going there or not publucly being loved by them is a non sequitur. If he gets elected then there is nothing his rabbi and the chief rabbi of Israel can’t work it out over some lox and bagels. So in the end, two Jews may have three different opinions about everything else but when it comes to “what is good for the Jews” they would be on the same page. So fear not!

    As to the coronavirus, perhaps it’s a test run like many a other and it will be another arrow in the quiver of the 1% to check on the non-chosen of 99%.

    But the counsel to Putin and his Turkish pasha (in a way truncated Turkey is a vilayat of the new czar) is very much Middle Eastern in nature that basically says, let’s screw the Kurds so that we may all get along better with each other. So what’s good for Jews, Turks and Arabs is not good for the largest stateless minority in the world. A rotten deal through and through and it won’t work.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Jila
  59. ricpic says:

    Erdogan’s a shit but everyone here hates the Jews so much he’s their hero.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  60. How many (black) refugees are there in Israel?

  61. @Johan Vermeulen

    This is a flu and most flues are rife in winter. Corona virus too will subside once the northern temperature rises. The coming Spring and Summer will see it subside.
    USA and Israel need to get their act together and find another virus that can be more finely tuned. This was a crude attempt.

  62. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It’s been a while, but you seem to be showing up again in threads of interest to me.

    So,

    Before interacting with this “Wizard of Oz” character, be aware that he/she/they often draw other commenters in with questions and requests that are seldom resolved to his/her/their satisfaction, or with cryptic insinuations that distract discussion.

    The same person also fuzzes up threads by pretending to be more than one commenter, the technique known as “sock puppetry.” See under Mr. Derbyshire’s February 15, 2019, article comment ## 28, 42, 43, 44, 68, 122, where he/she/they got sloppy also posting as “Anon[436].”

    Among this website’s oddest, sophisticatedly trollish commenters.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  63. NPleeze says:
    @Alfred

    Go read your history.

    I’m well aware of the history, pal. There is no piece of land that has been inhabited by one person and only his/her descendants throughout all human history, so all claims to land are relative. Hence my wording of “more claim”.

    Now how much claim does Turkey have? Syria was part of the Ottoman Empire from 1516 to 1918, or over 400 years. It was removed by force by the British and French, who absolutely f*ed up the Middle East, including, as I noted previously, the insertion of the virulent ZioNazi and Saudi Barbaria cancers. In addition to which, drawing national boundaries guaranteed to keep permanent conflict under their pernicious “divide and conquer” strategies. That, among other reasons, is why the Kurds were not given a home state – but Jews, who weren’t even indigenous, were.

    If it were not for the interference of the British, French and Germans, the Russians would have reclaimed it several times already.

    LOL.

    That is why DNA tests are banned in Turkey.

    Your lies are pathetically bad. https://dnacenter.com/immigration-dna-testing/dna-testing-in-turkey/

    Anyway, most of the population is descended from the peasants of the Byzantine empire. The Turkish input was limited.

    You are so clueless … whatever.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  64. NPleeze says:
    @Really No Shit

    when it comes to “what is good for the Jews” they would be on the same page.

    It’s of course possible that the Bern may surprise us, but he is far, far, far less of a ZioNazi than the Orange Crypto-Jew.

    The election may be a choice between Sort-of-Jew Bern (he married a devout Catholic, that’s definitely NOT kosher) and ZioNazi Crypto-Jew Drumpf.

  65. re: “The Russians feel fighting Turkey is below their dignity, and prefer to keep the fighting in Idlib as a proxy war. The dignity point is important: traditionally, the Russians go to war only with great powers. ”

    You are forgetting Putin’s cardinal rule: “A bad peace is better than a good war.”. I believe his rationale is that war is a dead-end. A prime example is the United States which has found out that each of its wars since the end of World War II have resulted in dead-ends. Imagine if the United States after World War II followed Putin’s cardinal rule. Today we would not be talking about MAGA (Make America Great Again). America’s GDP, based on Purchasing Power Parity, would be first and not second to China. It would be the leader in R.& D and in technological innovation. Instead, today it’s an under-developed country. So much for war.

  66. ΑΖ says:

    Since Erdo cooperates with terrorists, NATO and US should bomb Turkey as terrorist-sponsors. Failure to do so, proves that US/NATO are the master terrosists!

  67. Lo says:
    @israel shamir

    Your Turkish friend is an old nutcase communist. Almost everything he says can be easily trashed (they are all either wrong, or miss nuances) but it is not even worth my time since Turkish politics are unfamiliar to most people and it would take too long to explain things. The claim that Putin is member of some apocalyptic sect and tries to become czar alone shows the intellectual depth of this friend though. Putin is an atheist, as simple as that, your friend cannot even see that because, as I said, he is a nutcase communist.

    That is not to say clown Erdogan and his company haven’t failed in Syria, they did. Had they been smart, rational people they would not let Syrian civil war come to this point, but when leaders act based on faith and not rationalism these kinds of outcomes are totally expected. So, your nutcase communist friend is once again wrong, there is no ill will. Erdogan’s people are just incompetent fools who cannot calculate few steps ahead.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  68. @israel shamir

    he and his party staff mainly studied in turkish religious schools, called the “imam-hatip lise” high schools, where religious education is a de facto copy of the religious education given to isis militants.

    I personally taught in one such school and this guy is full of it. When he begins with a statement as outlandish as this, the agenda becomes obvious.

    For the sake of clarity: Under the yoke of M. Kemal Ataturk and his ideological successors, Turkish Muslims — those who actually practiced their religion — either suffered imprisonment and persecution, fled the republic, or met the gallows. Perhaps this “friend” would rather airbrush from Turkish history mass executions such as those which occurred at Ulucanlar; those of us who listened to the witnesses of such events won’t forget them. I’ve never seen a single account of them recorded in the western media to date.

    Ataturk’s numerous social “revolutions” — and they were explicitly named as such — were imposed with the intent to eviscerate the soul of Islam from the Turkish Republic, from the legal proscriptions against Arabic to those forbidding traditional Islamic attire to others that explicitly destroyed religious liberty. Whatever Erdogan has done in response to the 2016 coup is a Sunday picnic compared to Ataturk’s legacy of despotism.

    So much claptrap about the Muslim Brotherhood’s ties with American and British intelligence … And 1946? Who does your correspondent think Ataturk and his minions were if not de facto operatives for the subversion of the Ottoman Empire? Is the mandated replacement of a Perso-Arabic alphabet with a Romanized one not enough of a clue?

    Mountains of nonsense. Not worth your time.

  69. Racism is everywhere.

    It is a regrettable part of the human condition.

    I don’t think there’s any way to prevent people’s holding racist opinions, and the effort to do so often impinges on everyone’s basic rights.

    But it is the duty of governments to make sure that all public institutions operate free of its influence, and that all people receive a fair opportunity to make of themselves what they can.

    Believing that you can control private attitudes towards racism is a delusion, but then so many things in human society are of that nature. Religious beliefs. Political beliefs. Superstitions.

    • Agree: NPleeze, nickels
    • Replies: @Jila
  70. Lo says:

    It appears the biggest weapon of Russia is propaganda, gotta give that. For a country that was essentially collapsed just a couple decades ago Russians are sure talking mighty big. Turkey is below Russia and such, do I really need to remind you many of Russia’s humiliations since 90s, including facts about working Russian women? In that regards Russians match very well with Iranians. Yet, when a missile strikes their top commanders (Soleimani) or 100+ mercenaries (Wagner) all they do is huff and puff throw threats or just go silent mode. You guys don’t seem to understand that for the US issue is not whether it can win a war against Iran or Russia, but rather how it can keep casualties as low as possible. Of course, for a people who are so used to being slaughtered like animals by dictators like Stalin such concerns may be above their heads. Anyway, I hope Russia is enjoying its economy on the brink and new sanctions coming along. Hopefully, Russians won’t be able to afford Turkish fruits that you think Turkish economy is dependent on and they can go back to eating barley bread as soon as possible.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
  71. Russian(Soviet) Christians(Butchers) in action in Syria. The shit Syrian Girl(@Partisangirl) won’t show you. Enjoy, and God bless Putin:

  72. TkA says:
    @melpol

    You are aware that ‘smart’ and ‘clever’ are synonyms? This is getting tedious.

  73. anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    They were forced by the sword to switch religions.

    If there were any “forced by the sword” conversions, then the present day true monotheist muslims are pretty grateful for it, even if it must have been quite traumatic for those peoples then. May the Almighty One have mercy on their souls.

    Of course, I don’t actually believe there were too many of these “forced” conversions. One has to take “history” from proven deceitful lowlifes, with sacks of salt, you understand.

    On a related note, consider all of those who currently wallow in pagan polytheist mangods-worship (e.g. your kind)… what were they forced with? Forced by deceit and their own utter brainlessness?

    Do you think an eternity in Hell is better than being “forced by the sword” to submit to True Monotheism? Of course, my preferred method of reversion would be patient proselytisation.

  74. @NPleeze

    There’s a difference between Turks and Arabs. And Syria is about the oldest civilization in the world today, apart from Iran. That Turkish hordes conquered Syria and enforced their rule for centuries does not make Syrian Arabs Turks. It is anti-Semitic in the true sense to say so.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Jila
  75. JamesinNM says:

    Time to consider making continuing Turkish presence in Turkey too painful for Erdogan and the Turkish people. Perhaps start eliminating Turkish oil refineries one at a time until Erdogan gets the message.

  76. Lo says:

    Russians stopped buying Turkish tomatoes and Russian tourists were told to avoid Turkish resorts; visas were withdrawn and media went ballistic. That was enough to make Turks regret their hasty decisions, for Turkey needs Russia as the market for its fruits and vegetables, supplier of tourists and the working place for its building companies.

    Pretentious, as if Turkey is dependent on selling tomatoes or obnoxious Russian tourists. Russia’s 3rd largest export market is Turkey, meanwhile Turkey’s exports to Russia is less than its exports to Israel. Time to stop feeding the bear that bites the hand that feeds it. Turkey should fully join US sanctions and stop all trade with Russia.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
  77. @ricpic

    Erdogan is both a shit AND one who bows down before the Zionists.

  78. NPleeze says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    There’s a difference between Turks and Arabs.

    No kidding! And there is also a difference between Alawites and Arabs.

    And Syria is about the oldest civilization in the world today, apart from Iran.

    Syria is a fabrication of the British and French made pursuant to the Sykes-Picot agreement. It is not a “civilization” but an arbitrary (more precisely, a pernicious and malicious) political boundary.

    In terms of rule, if that is to what you are trying to refer, the Alawites (about 15% of the population, versus a roughly 5% Turkmen, most of them concentrated near … Turkey), never ruled all of the land now called Syria – and in particular, Idlib – until 1970.

    That Turkish hordes

    LOL! Hordes, were they? You really don’t know your history at all, but do seem to have a lot of hate toward Turks.

    does not make Syrian Arabs Turks

    Nor does the al-Assad’s seizure of political power in Syria make Syrian Arabs Alawites. The fact that the Alawites were even made a part of Syria (initially they were given an independent state, the Alawite State, by the French) is a matter of European imperialism, which is even more foreign to Syria than Turkish imperialism.

    It is anti-Semitic in the true sense to say so.

    LOL again! Haha! That would be hilarious even if I had ever, ever, ever claimed that Turks are Arabs. BTW: I have spent substantial time among Turks and Arabs, including in the Middle East, which makes your ignorant comments even the more hilarious!

    • Replies: @Jila
  79. Realist says:
    @Johan Vermeulen

    I prefer Schopenhauer: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

    If you knew anything about logic you would know that not all suppositions, that are ridiculed are true.
    So your comment proves nothing.

    By the way I am a great fan of Schopenhauer and if he were alive he would be disappointed in your use of his statement to justify an illogical argument.

    • Replies: @Johan Vermeulen
  80. @Realist

    True, and the way the deaths are categorized is misleading. The CDC categorizes pneumonia and flu deaths together with no distinction and with very few actual lab tests establishing flu infection. Even with the tests taken into consideration, there’s no real proof of flu infection. The tests identify only antibodies, not the presence of the specific live virus. Using such standards any desired result can be announced.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  81. Kim says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    ‘at least as x as I’ should be ‘at least as x as ME’

    A clause in English can have only one subject.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @anon
  82. @Realist

    you are correct: things may be ridiculed and be indeed stupid. Like the flat earth theory. It never gets to be seriously criticised, and very few people are beginning to act as if it is self evident that the earth is flat.
    But this new virus – which started out as ‘just the flu!’ – is taken more and more serious every day.
    It may be an example of the process Schopenhauer described.
    At this point not even Schopenhauer could tell us how dangerous the virus really is.
    We will have to wait a little longer.

  83. @Twodees Partain

    Hey Twodees Partain!

    Half ass application of “Standards.” 🙌As typical, I like how you think, & thanks!

    Linked down below is a video discussion involving the rather obscure “Virus Chaser,” Laurie Garrett and astute Jewish lefty, Amy Goodman. Like me, neither like Trump.

    Fyi, Garrett wrote the meaningful & eclectic book, “The Coming Plague.” Am uncomfortable with Laurie’s CFR relationship🤔 but then again, I am uncomfortable with Julian Assange’s relationship with Mossad. 🤔

    • LOL: Wally
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  84. There are very few non-Chinese victims of the disease, and its spread in Iran, the US enemy of choice, makes us think of it being a designed bio-weapon, despite its modest severity.
    ——————————————————————————————————–
    Shamir never ceases to amaze me. He will spout any opinion, about nearly anything, shamelessly.

    Facts: Sars-Cov2 is the actual correct name of this virus. It is an advanced from of SARS.

    It has unique features: stays in the upper respiratory tract and throat, transmits via asymptomatic carriers (ie. perfectly healthy people), long incubation (we are seeing up to 3-4 weeks prior to actual symptoms in some cases), transmits via aerosol (at a distance of 10+ft which is a factor gain over Sars which was 5ft) and has a high infection rate [R(o)=3-6; this is incredible infectious as most influenza is below 2.0].

    This is not a flu. Sorry, Shamir.
    It is estimated to devolve into viral pneumonia around day 7-10 which ends up requiring intubation or the patient will asphyxiate. Does this occur in every case? No.
    Would you like to hear the projections?
    40-60% of people will acquire this virus (source U.S. DOD-this is a conservative estimate)
    1% of the planet will die from complications caused by Sars-Cov2 (viral pneumonia, cytokine storm, asphyxiation). That is 80 million. Now, outcomes depend on available hospital resources. Some countries have them and others do not and all places in between.
    Further, this virus will go to the Southern Hemisphere-where health outcomes are the worst-then reappear in the North for the winter flu season in October of 2020. Re-infection can and does occur as there is no herd immunity to this virus. It is new. Second time around will be worse just like the ‘second wave’ of the 1919 Spanish Flu [ which has actually been very well argued to have come out of the precursor to USAMRID in Kansas, ie. it was a bio-weapon then just as Sars-Cov2 is widely speculated to be a bio-weapon now, precisely 100 years later].
    I can’t not conclude by stating this: Shamir is an irresponsible propagandist. He will bloviate about anything. He has previously stated the Holodomor didn’t happen.
    Israel Shamir is a liar. I personally believe he works for MOSSAD or the FSB or both. I have no idea why anyone would publish the garbage he writes. He portrays himself as an Orthodox Christian. I have seen nothing resembling Christianity flow from this man’s pen.

    • Agree: Desert Fox, utu
  85. @Kim

    I must see if I can find my copy of Fowler. Of course I would say “Who is is bigger than me” but I see “am” as understood in what I said and there would be nothing wrong with “at least as PC as I am” as you can see if you consider the possibility that you might want to say “at least as PC as I used to be [was]”.

  86. @anonymous

    Are you the same sad obsessive or are you now paying your grand nephew to kerp it up? [Any answer will satisfy].

  87. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kim

    Foolish little Kim hasn’t learned, nobody beats the Wizard for pedantry!

    And BTW, “…who is at least as non-PC as I.” is entirely correct.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  88. “I have a warm spot for the Turkish ruler” really? did your warm spot start when he ordered his thugs to beat peaceful demonstrators in the US capitol, or perhaps when he scheduled a 100 year
    Gallipoli commemoration to draw world attention away from the 100th anniversay of the Armenian Genocide. or perhaps, it is just the residual butt stain when a Khazar loves a donmeh crypto Jew. Fuck off!

    • Replies: @Lo
  89. Lo says:
    @General Koofta

    did your warm spot start when he ordered his thugs to beat peaceful demonstrators in the US capitol

    Were you there and did you get kicked on your head? If so, did it hurt?

    • Replies: @General Koofta
  90. The majority of black people in the Deep South are just like the better majority of white folks in the South. Not very well educated, the education they have is very poor. Very brainwashed by the TeeVee, blacks by CNN, whites by Fox. Plus most of the churches push a political agenda, which mostly lines up with the TeeVee agenda, the CIA/Wall St writes the Teevee agenda.

    Internet access in rural areas and even many larger towns and cities sucks, and is expensive. So poorer people depend on the TeeVee for all their information. The especially poor would still be receiving TeeVee by antenna, so the choices are even more limited.

    So its not surprising that they will do exactly what the TeeVee tells them every time. I’ve made the determination that its mostly intentional. Keep people poor and stupid, they make better voters. No reason why Timbuktu Africa should have better internet options than parts of the United States. Thats capitalism for you though, if it isn’t super profitable for them to run cables out to rural areas, they’re not going to do so.

    I think most people have just given up with voting, they’ve learned that nothing ever gets better by voting, things just continue to get worse. So why bother? Especially the poor. I think if you looked at the data, most of the folks still voting would be upper middle class or wealthy, most of the poor are staying home, or at work at their 2nd job. The ones that aren’t strung out on oxy, meth or living in a tent. Very sad.

    People that rant about Venezuela, Cuba when they’re peddling CIA/Neocon talking points should really take a look around America. Especially rural areas of Appalachia and Deep South. This is the 3rd world. Nothing you can can say about any “socialist” nation that isn’t just as bad or much worse here, and its getting worse by the day. This part of the country is dying. Literally.

  91. anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:

    traditionally, the Russians go to war only with great powers.

    Lol! Two words… Afghan Mujahideen.

    Didn’t Russia have their own Vietnam moment battling these guys?

    Shamir, you are too old to behave like a teen fanboi. Until very recently Russia was a basket case. Putin is now beginning to act too smart for his physically small shoes. Erdogan is dealing with deceitful scum from all sides. Perhaps you deal with that with some deceit of your own.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  92. Wally says:
    @redmudhooch

    said:
    “Nothing you can can say about any “socialist” nation that isn’t just as bad or much worse here, and its getting worse by the day.”

    Get serious. The hordes from socialist/ communist countries flee their countries and keep coming to this country. The caravans in Mexico are headed north, not south.

    Then there is this for Euro-whites to contend with:

    The New Racism, by Walter E. Williams: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/01/walter-e-williams/the-new-racism/
    Walter E. Williams

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  93. @anon

    “for pedantry” or “at pedantry” ? (15 marks)
    😎

    • Replies: @anon
  94. Wally says:
    @NegroPantera

    said:
    “The future belongs to the American young progressives and not the fragile dinosaurs.”

    LOL.

    – It’s the “dinosaurs” who pay the bills of the communist, living in Mom & Dad’s basement “progressives”.

    ‘The problem with “progressives” is that they eventually run out “dinosaurs” money.’

    And you call that a “future”.

  95. @Wizard of Oz

    Wrong comparison! Whatever China does to Uygurs and Russia to Chechens can be compared to whatever the US is doing to its Afro-American citizens in LA and Detroit. China’s activity in HG can be compared to the US actions in Hawaii or Alaska. None of these actions can be described as those of the World Sheriff.

  96. Art says:

    Silly racists believe that Jews are some bio-robots, always fitting the Jewish agenda.

    Please — it is not silly or racist to see the damage that the Jew tribe is doing to Western culture.

    See Phil Giraldi’s article about the infestation of Jews in the Trump administration – one more crazed then the next, all mendaciously sick with Jew supremacy and victimhood.

    The way out of this sick situation, is for Jews to stop traumatizing and poisoning their children’s minds with hate and fear for humanity. Those who suffer this childhood abuse – in adulthood suffer mindless “robotic” responses to any criticism of Jew behavior.

    Do No Harm

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  97. Art says:
    @israel shamir

    Wrong comparison! Whatever China does to Uygurs and Russia to Chechens can be compared to whatever the US is doing to its Afro-American citizens in LA and Detroit.

    A proper comparison is with apartheid Israel and their imprisoning of a million Palestinians in Gaza.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  98. ISIS getting paid back in kind, as they deserve. At least those won’t be making their way to Europe to rape and kill. You seem to have a problem with that. You forgot what they did to others in their ISIS promotion videos. At least there’s someone out there willing to give them the send-offs they deserve.

  99. Turk 152 says:

    A big night for the grifters at the DNC, I guess I will be voting for Trump again..

  100. Robjil says:
    @anonymous

    Erdogan has no friends along its borders.

    He acts like Turkey is a satrapy of USisrael.

    His support for USisraeli terrorists does not help Turkey or its neighbors.

    It only helps USisrael.

    He gives the same support to these USisraeli terrorists in faraway Libya for USisrael.

    This all points to Turkey just being a satrapy of USisrael and nothing more than that.

    Shamir had a good email from a Turk that this the case.

    It is in our face everyday, that Turkey only works for USisrael.

    The Native Americans had a term for this behavior – Forked tongue.

    Turkey and Israel are best friends for the Oded Yinon plan.

    • Agree: Alfred
  101. Skeptikal says:

    “Now Sanders had made the next step, refusing to come to AIPAC at all.”

    I think Sanders has never gone to AIPAC.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  102. @redmudhooch

    Just like “Father Abraham” and his bloody band of Communist Generals envisioned. Southerners were warned by our greatest founders early on.
    The current campaign to stigmatize Southern heritage as detestable has its genesis in the decades before the War for Southern Independence. In 1787, Patrick Henry warned Virginia and the South about the danger of forming a union with the people of New England. Patrick Henry predicted that the North, being the numerical majority, would control the Federal Government and use the Federal Government to extract tribute (taxes in the form of tariffs) from the South. Patrick Henry was joined by other Southerners, such as George Mason and Rawlins Lowndes who warned of the danger of a union with the North.[2] From its very beginning, the United States has been a nation divided. The division was not one of slave states vs. non-slave states but a division between a commercial society vs. an agrarian society. As explained by Southern scholar Grady McWhiney, the war was a conflict of, “culture against culture.”[3] Southern scholar Francis B. Simkins observed that had slavery not existed the North would have “conjured” another moral rationale for invading the South.
    https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/the-cost-of-southern-cultural-genocide/

  103. @Wally

    Spoken like a true Yankee. Why the hell do you think these “migrants” come here? It is because they hear of the greatest communist nation in the world with free shit for all, for ever and ever, amen.

  104. @israel shamir

    Sorry Israel, “the fellas” create their own problems this day in age.

  105. @israel shamir

    You haven’t paid attention to what I said which included saying “setting aside the idea of being world policeman” before making the point that neither Chinese nor Russians were squeamish about using violence against those who they regarded as, collectively, unruly and detrimental to their interests. I could have added “without following any kind of criminal law due process”. You may subscribe

    You might subscribe to the thesis of Michelle Alexander’s book “The New Jim Crow” that mass incarceration of blacks is just that but even that wouldn’t justify your comparison of the way policing is done in Detroit with imprisoning a million Uighurs for “reeducation”or massacring Chechens. But, anyway, you miss the point that China and Russia are at least as willing to use violence to achieve behaviour modification as the US and might well have agreed on objectives.

    Furthermore your attempt to equate US federal government relations with states of the Union with those of China with Hong Kong which are meant to be constrained by the One Country Two Systems 50 year agreement but doesn’t prevent China kidnapping its critics from HK is, well, almost a parody. And again missing the point.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Lo
    , @Commentator Mike
  106. Jila says:
    @Smith

    Because Arab Jews created Islam and then used it to advance their own causes. As always they infiltrate a group and deceptively subordinate them to their will using the facade of another. In this manner they continually evade blame and prosecution. Despite being first to be invaded by this Jewish Islam, Iran has survived due to its ancient pre abrahamic civilization. But the rest have either been Arabized or judeo-ized in the interest of Zionist world order.

  107. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    I think most people have just given up with voting….

    Given up, or just never tried?
    Bernie failed to turn out the youth vote. Yes, the majority of young people who voted in the primary voted for Bernie. But the majority of eligible youth did not vote.

  108. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    LOL. I’m corrected and proven correct at the same time. Nice one!

  109. Alfred says:
    @Skeptikal

    Now Sanders had made the next step, refusing to come to AIPAC at all

    Irrelevant. He is a Zionist like the rest of that lineup of retards.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  110. @Alfred

    Agree, their all zionists, and so is Trump and Pence in fact said at AIPAC it was unAmerican to criticize Israel and zionism!

    God help us.

  111. NPleeze says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    imprisoning a million Uighurs for “reeducation”

    Did the Jew York Slimes tell you that? They showed a couple small buildings, high school size, that could hold maybe a few hundred people each – even assuming they are being used for “reeducation”, how do you fit 1 million folks in them?

    And isn’t it interesting no Muslim country is making this claim? Only the Jew York Times and ZOG?

    massacring Chechens

    During the civil war? Nobody follows due process in civil war. Remember Waco? MOVE (Philadelphia)? And those were tiny, miniscule “insurrections”, US proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that it is willing to engage in massacres even for those.

    There simply is no greater evil than the US in the world today. Even Israel and Saudi Barbaria are subsidiary – precisely because they rely on the US to do their evil so the US gets all of their evil in its column as well.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  112. Coronovirus and Paul Craig Roberts ain’t laughing.🤔 Refer to article linked below?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/03/04/have-we-brewed-a-whirlwind/

  113. Lo says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    More than a million Uighurs are in camps, and Russia used to air raid Grozny indiscriminately. So yes, clown Israel Shamir is actually comparing these heinous acts with policing in the US. The US needs toughen the stance, and useless Europe should act to collapse these murdering dictatorial regimes as soon as possible. Because otherwise there is nothing stopping them from continue trying to undermine democracy in the US and turn it into a garbage dictatorship where human life has no value as well. Shut down RT, shut down Sputnik, shut down Xinhua and let their propaganda outlets sell their propaganda to their own poor people.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  114. Prajna says: • Website
    @melpol

    If you’re so smart how come you just sound stupid and bigoted? Or are you just a boot-licker to the smart ones?

  115. @ChuckOrloski

    Or maybe “application of half ass standards” . Anyway, every single pandemic scare that has been trotted out so far has been fake. The governments involved seize more power for themselves to address the problem, and they keep that power after their scam shows itself to be a fraud.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  116. Maiasta says:
    @israel shamir

    Thanks for posting this, Israel. It saved me the trouble of having to reply to your piece. Your Turkish friend is indeed correct, and Erdogan is not worthy of anyone’s sympathy. His people were caught on tape planning a lethal false flag attack in order to justify an attack upon Syria in 2014:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-27/here-youtube-false-flag-attack-syria-clip-erdogan-wanted-banned

    In addition, it is indeed true that Erdogan is an aspiring islamist despot, despite denials from certain commenters here. He is explicitly committed to the most extreme Takfiri Sunni revivalism, to such an extent that DAESH – whose illegal oil production was flowing daily into Turkey – was preparing to open an embassy there. When Davotoglu hilariously declared that his government’s Islam was “360 degrees” away from that of ISIS, he unwittingly told the truth. The only substantial ideological difference between them is that Turkish Sunni revanchism incorporates Turkish nationalism. Without Erdogan’s central role, the war in Syria would have ended long ago. And far from seeing the error of his ways, he is now fomenting war in Libya too through his support of the Muslim Brotherhood’s “Unity” government in Tripoli, all whilst imprisoning unprecedented numbers of people in Turkey itself, and amassing a personal fortune.

    Whoever replaces this man surely cannot be worse than he is.

    • Agree: Wielgus, Robjil
    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
    , @Turk 152
  117. @NPleeze

    We are not in real disagreement if you look to my original point that the US should respectfully sought to engage Russia and China as weighty influences in the world before it had tried to put them in their places.

  118. @Art

    Again wrong comparison! Chechens are citizens of Russia, with all rights and duties, freedom of movement, representation etc. Not similar at all to the position of Gaza dwellers.

    • Replies: @Lo
  119. @Art

    They will poison their childrens’ minds with hate until kindergartens and primary schools are run solely by the state.

    It is fundamental to Judaism to hate. That brainwashing of little children with Jewishness and hatred of non-Jews is essential.

  120. @Lo

    I think they should send all those Uighurs and Chechens to you in US since you love them so much. And you’re rich, right? So no problems for you to take care of them. Just make a list of all those you love and invite them all in. How about Rohingya? No problem. Indian Muslims perhaps? Hong Kong protesters? Ugandan homosexuals? Send them all to US. …

    • Replies: @Lo
  121. @Wizard of Oz

    China kidnapping its critics from HK

    And US kidnapping Meng Wanzhou and Assange. Not kidnapping them in the same way as those it did under the CIA rendition programme, but still kidnapping using foreign states to do the dirty work.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  122. ThereisaGod says: • Website
    @NPleeze

    “Silly racists believe that Jews are some bio-robots, always fitting the Jewish agenda.”

    Shamir has applied this lazy comment in response to recent articles addressing the origins and purposes of circumcision.
    What is (within the articles) labelled a “bio-robot” is someone who, for whatever reason, is unable to question their own assumptions. This phenomenon is universal, applying to all groups and peoples …

    … but most people, including Jews, at some time do discover false ideas within themselves and change their understanding of reality.

    The point about circumcision is that its purpose is to SPECIFICALLY MAKE THE PROCESS OF RECONSTRUCTIVE INWARDNESS MORE DIFFICULT. It is to make the tribe more suggestible to the idea that there are people who are “out to get them” and that the only safety is within the fold guided by the wise Rabbi, the asshole who has inflicted the terror on the individual in the first place.

    Jews TYPICALLY have a tougher job than the rest of us escaping their conditioning. This was more true in the days of more primitive methods when the operation was less safe than it tends to be today. Nonetheless this violation of the genitals of the defenseless child should be forbidden by law.

    “Always”??? “silly racists”?? … Eff-off Israel.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
  123. @Commentator Mike

    More missing the point. Are you really saying that Russia and China would have been squeamish about joining the US in the use of violence if persuaded that the objective was in their interest? Do you seriously suggest that Putin’s Russia has lost the will to act as its Soviet version did in East Germany in 1953, Hungary 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968?

  124. @israel shamir

    I think you have also glossed over what the earlier, Soviet, version of Putin’s régime did in East Germany 1953, Hungary 1956 and Czechoslovakia 1968. No more scruples than the US in getting their way with foreign states. Of course China is largely using money in Africa and the Pacific but do you think it rewards only nice honest people?

  125. @Maiasta

    Agree : “Erdogan government’s role in ISIS oil trade exposed ” nordicmonitor.com :
    “…The Turkish government time and time again has been accused of conniving , covertly providing financial and/or military support or at least tolerating ISIS…without the Turkey of President Erdogan , the clientele for ISIS oil would be limited and hence the revenue it generated to fuel the conflict would be less …Turkish hacker group Redhack’s release of numerous emails …bore out the Erdogan family’s meddling in [and profiting from] the ISIS oil smuggling scheme.”

  126. Shamir … I have suspected it a long time
    but Your profile is becoming clearer article by article

    Calling Erdogan a great man .. reveals You
    Your anti European Stance reveals You
    Your downplaying of the Virus Epidemia reveals You
    the very occurrance which KILLED GLOBALISATION and MULTICULTURE
    just like The Rising in Hungary 1956 and Solzenitsyn killed the Jewish Bolshevik LIES

    You are a fullbloooded Jew ..in the End
    having manned the Dialectic Bastion on behalf of Jewry
    for quite some time

    Times are a’changing …
    Globalisation is STONE DEAD
    Multiculti likewise
    The Tricks used by Jewry wont work anymore
    and nefarious ” Elites ” in the pocket of Globalist Jewry
    will again ..like in Wars ..have to rely on their indigenous populations
    if they want to survive.. because on their own
    just like the Jews
    they are NOTHING

  127. Glad the Vlad is not a Zionist boot licker like those evil “Murkans”

    Russian President Vladimir Putin will be honored with the Friends of Zion Award this week while visiting Jerusalem for the World Holocaust Forum, which falls on the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp, the Friends of Zion Heritage Center announced on Wednesday.

    Nine world leaders have received the award so far, including former president George W. Bush, and US President Donald Trump – who received the award in 2017, accompanied by Vice President Mike Pence, and senior advisors Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Putin-to-receive-Friends-of-Zion-Award-in-Jerusalem-615068

    • Thanks: Talha
    • Replies: @Robjil
  128. Turk 152 says:
    @Maiasta

    And all the secular Turkish people I know, absolutely hate Erdogan, I cant even mention his name around them in public unless it is in revulsion. However, way back when Erdogan was Obama’s “Best friend in the Middle East” and the secularists and military could have stopped him, Obama and Hillary were too busy using Erdogan as their Muslim Brotherhood tool to overthrow the remaining secular regimes in the middle east. You see the last thing that the Empire wants is not a radical Muslim regime, (oh no, that is their goal as it just makes them an exploitable soft target!), it is a responsible secular government in Muslim Countries that will demand that US / British / Israel War Profiteers treat their population justly and not give them an excuse to spend trillions on MIC projects. There are actually plenty of Secular, Western Muslims in the Middle East, but you would never know it because the Western Media is too buy splashing Portraits of all the radical freaks they can dig up on the airways so they can start another war.

    • Replies: @Maiasta
    , @Lo
    , @Nonny Mouse
  129. Robjil says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Read #55 on this thread. Israel Shamir got a email from a Turk about why Erdogan acts the way he does and why Turkey acts so irrationally with its neighbors.

    Putin does not support any negative actions from Zionism. Erdogan does so to extreme levels, for example, his tireless support for Isis. Turkey acts the way it does because it is part of the USisrael empire since 1946.

    – since 1946 turkey has lost her independence. as the french thinker
    regis debray once said, turkey is part of the “united states of the west”. debray goes
    ahead with his interesting story: as emperor marcus aurelius or
    emperor constantine once established “more than one” capital cities
    for the roman empire, like rome, sirmium and constantinople, for
    convenience of administrative and military action in the vast imperial
    territory — why not establish “more than one” capital cities for the
    U.S.W.: one time it may be washington, other time it may be london,
    berlin, jerusalem or ankara.. i think ankara is nowadays the active
    capital for the u.s.w.

    Erodogan is always US and Israel’s friend since it is part of the USisrael empire.

    – erdogan himself proclaimed, he is ready to wear “a priest’s robe”
    (that means, ready to cooperate with the devil) if needed to obtain
    power! (see attach). he got a prize from the anti def.league. when he,
    seemingly, got at odds with israel, he never returned that prize back.
    turkey has never been a threat to israeli interests nor to american
    ones throughout all that time; erdogan’s harsh words for israel or
    america are only lip service.

  130. What part of It’s A Big Club don’t you understand?

  131. Russia to get its very own version of Monsanto, with Putin’s blessings of course.

    Russia’s oil giant Rosneft and the Russian government will join forces to develop gene-editing technology, according to a government decree published Wednesday.

    The deal, which President Vladimir Putin ordered in December, aims to accelerate Russia’s $1.6 billion program to create 30 new varieties of genetically modified crops and animals by 2027

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/04/rosneft-joins-russias-gene-editing-tech-program-a69520

  132. Maiasta says:
    @Turk 152

    Good observations. I think anyone paying attention can see that Islamic rule is what the US seeks in the Middle East. The 1980s’ US-funded war in Afghanistan took down a secular government, as did the invasion of Iraq and the attack on Libya. US elites want religious fascists in power because they’re fully aware that nothing retards Muslim societies like Political Islam does.

    In any case, let us hope that Erdogan has finally overplayed his hand. Here is the Duran discussing the latest developments:

    • Thanks: Nonny Mouse
  133. Lo says:
    @Commentator Mike

    How about not massacring, locking, silencing millions of your citizens and acting like human beings, rather than uncivilized primates?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  134. Lo says:
    @israel shamir

    And that my friends, give Russians right to bomb and kill them whenever they feel like it. Hopefully, we will see revolts from Caucasia to Tatarstan to invaded Ukrainian land. Cannot wait to see Russia crumble. We are one step away, once China is completely done, Russia is going to be a piece of cake.

    • Troll: Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @annamaria
  135. Jila says:
    @Really No Shit

    The ‘kurds’ are an Iranian people (having been part of Iranian people more than 3000 years) that were torn apart by Zionists as a divide and conquer tactic. They’ve been heavily infiltrated by Intel agencies for more than a century, culminating in a brainwashed segment who think having their own ‘state’ is their right. No sane group would prefer a small state that would be easily controlled by greater powers. ‘Ethnic’ separatism is a zionist ploy through and through. Stop advocating for such a ludicrous notion. It’s a pure psyop.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  136. Jila says:
    @John Chuckman

    There is only one race. The human and humane one. Everything else is a political construct and can easily be rectified if people understood (were taught) its divide and conquer purpose. Humans can be taught to trade and interact on a humane basis not a vulgar competition of superiority that is what the ruling class wants.

  137. Jila says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    Syrians aren’t Arab either.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  138. Robjil says:
    @Lo

    ZUS invaded Ukraine

    Nuland bought it with cookies.

    The cheapest deal since the Native Americans sold Manhattan to the Dutch.

    The English later stole it from the Dutch.

    Revolts in Eastern Ukraine, they did want to be part of this new ZUS cookie state.

    Lo it will be a very sad world without any independent states from the ZUS empire.

    Your wish will never happen, humans will always yearn to be free.

    The Zion Macht Frei ZUS empire is the saddest empire that ever existed on earth.

    It is the most totalitarian one that ever existed. It is destroying the mind with its fear of real debates.

  139. @Jila

    Not necessarily! Yes, the Kurds are a subset of the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European peoples; however, just like the Italians are different from the French, notwithstanding their having similar sounding phrases like “bon jour” and “bon journo”, Kurds and Iranians maybe most closely related but are indeed separate ethnicities. But I don’t have an issue with your contention that both are exploited by outsiders which is entirely possible as with a lot of other things in the godforsaken Middle East.

    • Replies: @Jila
  140. Jila says:
    @NPleeze

    None of the nations of Middle East are Arabs. Nor is Egypt Arab. These are Arabized regions via forced linguistic and religious conversion. Genetic studies show Arabs limited to Arabian peninsula to which most Jews also belong. Turkey also is not a ‘Turkic’ nation. Both Mongolian and Arab invasions led to very minor genetic change in people of Middle East who have settled there for more than 30,000 years. The people of Middle East in Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria… still share a 92% admixture with only a minor Turkic and Arab gene admixture. The pseudo racial and ethnic divisions are purely the product of imperialism and ancient Zionist subterfuge. It’s classic divide and conquer.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  141. @Jila

    Would you say then that the Syrians are Arameans and that the Palestinians are Hebrews?

    • Replies: @Jila
  142. @Chet Roman

    So we (Jews and Gentiles) can agree that the Jews are a separate nation, a state within a state, are not legitimate citizens of the countries they live in, must not be allowed to vote or hold official positions, judges, lawmakers etc., instead deserve autonomy under the rule of their rabbis. The traditional solution.

  143. Lo says:
    @Turk 152

    Overthrowing secular regimes in ME? Do you mean genocidal dictators like Saddam, Assad and so on? It is true that Erdogan managed the conflict poorly and unnecessarily put too much trust in Arabs’ ability to stay loyal and wage a war, however, in principle it is not wrong to support democracy in those countries as well. Ignoramuses like you think that you understand everything just because you know one thing, yet you fail to understand hundred others but don’t realize it, hence people end up electing politicians like Erdogan and then you blame half your country for failing to support your side.

    You know, it is not so difficult to pretend to believe in your population’s religion and at least pretend to respect it. Like Atheist butcher Putin does. Even stupid Turkish friend of Israel Shamir believes that Putin is a Christian, and a radical one at that, and Russian trolls are working overtime to present Atheist Putin as the savior of Christianity. Being a good politician requires that. Look, there haven’t been a single Atheist US president if you believe that, they were all god fearing Christians. You just don’t go to people, act like their faith is ridiculous, and then expect them to vote for you. That is exactly what stupid ME politicians (yes, your secular ones) don’t get, and then go mad when people try to get rid of them / don’t elect them. If your opposition cannot win against an ignorant and naive guy like Erdogan, I would question their intelligence, rather than that of public’s.

    • Replies: @Turk 152
    , @annamaria
  144. @Jila

    What are they then? Do any still speak Aramaic?

  145. @Lo

    How about not massacring, locking, silencing millions of your citizens and acting like human beings, rather than uncivilized primates?

    Precisely! Well said Lo. The point is that Uighur head-choppers and Jewish kiddie fiddlers and child foreskin choppers are the inhuman monsters. But you side with the culprits and not the victims. As long as there is struggle, someone’s going to get the chop anyway. I feel that siding with some could improve things. Unfortunately we disagree with which side to support.

  146. @Turk 152

    Turk, you are strongly supported by the idiocy and malignancy of Lo’s hostile comment. Thanks for exposing him or it.

    • LOL: Turk 152
  147. Jila says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    Tribal classification of any region is a scientific misnomer. Such classifications are products of political divide and conquer tactics that took root as superficial self identifying markers. Genetic studies show people as more homogeneous than their ideological or linguistic associations. Thus any adherence to ethnic or religious classification within a certain geography lends itself to and simply facilitates imperialist take overs. Varying genetic/behavioral characteristics have occurred throughout the globe but regional characteristics don’t vary between so called ‘ethnic’ groups. Socialization towards separatism or unity is a choice. But recognition of commonality and its unifying power has been purposefully denied certain resource rich regions. Humanity can not afford the continuation of such divisiveness. That is why labeling or self identifying based on ‘ethnicity’ or linguistic/religious grounds is not only unscientific but poses highest danger to humanity. We must simply strive to unify and elevate human potential wherever it has lagged behind.

  148. Jila says:
    @Really No Shit

    Please see my reply numbered 153.

  149. The Swiss Propaganda Research Group (SPR)
    https://swprs.org/

    Understanding the geopolitical and psychological war against Syria.
    Published: March 2020; Languages: DE, EN, NO

    The Syria Deception—a position paper by the Swiss Propaganda Research group
    https://swprs.org/the-syria-deception/
    or
    https://www.greanvillepost.com/2020/03/04/the-syria-deception-a-position
    -paper-by-the-swiss-propaganda-research-group/

    Contrary to the depiction in Western media, the Syria war is not a civil war. This is
    because the initiators, financiers and a large part of the anti-government fighters
    come from abroad.

    Nor is the Syria war a religious war, for Syria was and still is one of the most
    secular countries in the region, and the Syrian army – like its direct opponents –
    is itself mainly composed of Sunnis.

    But the Syria war is also not a pipeline war, as some critics suspected, because
    the allegedly competing gas pipeline projects never existed to begin with, as even
    the Syrian president confirmed.

    Instead, the Syria war is a war of conquest and regime change, which developed
    into a geopolitical proxy war between NATO states on one side – especially the
    US, Great Britain and France – and Russia, Iran, and China on the other side.

    • Replies: @anon
  150. Turk 152 says:
    @Lo

    This is they are not true Muslims argument, which is just as convincing as the they are not true Christans arguement.

    Why dont you then proceed to give us a few quotes off the top of your head, which you happen to know, which says the duty of a good Muslim is to kill nonbelievers, gays, jews, Christian’s, communists, etc.etc.etc. and make am even more convincing arguement. For some reason secular Muslims have no idea what you are talking about and kind of think you are crazy and not really a Muslim when you say these things.

    I think the words Secular Muslim threw you in a tailspin and you should ask yourself why that is.

    • Replies: @Lo
  151. annamaria says:
    @Lo

    A history lesson for a holobiz crowd of “eternal victims.”

  152. annamaria says:
    @Lo

    “…genocidal dictators…”

    — Ms. Lo, before lecturing others on how Syria (and Iraq, Russia, and Libya) should have been ruled, you need to learn the history of your puny theocratic state (see a succession of the proud self-proclaimed terrorists at the helm of Israel), as well as the history of the treasonous AIPAC (see the role of Israel-firsters in the genocidal Wars for Israel).

    The depleted uranium sprinkled by the zionized US army on the civilian population of Fallujah (see the explosion of horrific birth defects there) and the slave markets in the formerly beautiful Libya signify the successful implementation of the subhuman Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel.

    Let me guess, in your school, you were not taught about the role of Jewish Bolsheviks and Jewish bankers in the Russian tragedy known as the Bolshevik revolution. Is it because of too many former KGB bosses and other Soviet apparatchiks have relocated to the promised land of the Jewish State? You accuse others of ignorance, yet it seems that you suffer an ignorance of the deeds of your own people:

    Rozalia Zalkind: https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
    Lazar Kaganovich: https://archive.org/details/LazarKaganovich
    Matvei Berman and Hershel Jehuda:

    Jews were the commandants of 11 out of the 12 main concentration camps, including the camp system directors Matvei Berman and Hershel Jehuda (Yagoda). Ultimately, some 14 million people would be detained in the 53 camps which operated from 1934 to 1953.

    These facts are not some holobiz invention propagated by the profiteering liar Elie Wiesel.
    Jewish American mobsters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_mobsters
    Bibi the butcher: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/7/26/1316950/–BIBI-THE-BUTCHER-We-are-all-Palestinians-now

    • Replies: @Lo
  153. @Lo

    I was indeed there, what the fuck do you care? Let me kick you in the head and you can make your own decision fuckface.

    • Replies: @Lo
  154. Lo says:
    @annamaria

    You sound antisemitic, make sure Putin does not declare you antisemitic pig like he did some WW2 Poles.

    you were not taught about the role of Jewish Bolsheviks and Jewish bankers in the Russian tragedy known as the Bolshevik revolution

    Your whole history is tragedy. Perhaps if you did not massacre / brutalize people in everywhere that had misfortune of falling under the control of your barbaric rulers it would be less tragic. From Chechen freedom war to German collaborating Eastern Europeans / Tatars in the WW2, if people turn against Russians so eagerly it tells something about you. Let’s say Bolsheviks were Jewish controlled, I would say that it was good for them considering all the pogroms and massacres Russian antisemitic pigs (borrowed from your dear leader Putin) committed. Consider it a little payback.

    Is it because of too many former KGB bosses and other Soviet apparatchiks have relocated to the promised land of the Jewish State?

    Russians in Israel should be investigated and those who don’t have Jewish roots should be returned to Russia. Otherwise Israel will also be a mini USSR sometime in the future.

    You accuse others of ignorance, yet it seems that you suffer an ignorance of the deeds of your own people

    If you are too primitive to take control of your destiny (which you repeatedly proved, as your greatest rulers are almost all foreign), don’t blame those who are smarter than you when they control your destiny.

    Jewish American mobsters

    Post Russian mobsters as well. I know even there you are too incompetent to organize effectively.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  155. Lo says:
    @General Koofta

    Was just trying to make sure so that I don’t debate with a mentally disabled man in the future. So did you recover from the head kick?

    • Replies: @General Koofta
  156. Lo says:
    @Turk 152

    My comment has nothing to do with your answer. I will also ignore the ridiculousness of the term secular Muslim/Jew/Christian. As I said, if your country’s secular wing keeps losing to Erdogan, it just shows their incompetence. Rather than blaming Jews, USA or anyone else, I’d first look for more realistic explanations.

    • Replies: @Turk 152
  157. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ashino Wolf Sushanti

    True, and thanks. Are you Swiss? Do you know who are the members of this anonymous SPR, Swiss Propaganda Research Group?

  158. @Lo

    I think you mistook a hypothetical description of Putin for an allegation of fact.

    That aside, I very much hope that the US has been bugging Erdogan and his cronies and allies well enoughto have a lot on him and useable stuff against him and any Islamists in Turkey. Given the idiocy and apparent ignorance of the USG in relation to ME affairs I am sadly sceptical about that.

  159. Turk 152 says:
    @Lo

    I admit that I find your rants mostly incoherent, perhaps you should pay more attention to your writing skills, it would help with your logic.

  160. annamaria says:
    @Lo

    “You sound antisemitic… … the pogroms and massacres Russian antisemitic pigs committed. ”

    — Sure. The facts have an antisemitic bias. Thanks for the reminder.

    Guess, the “antisemitic” turn of events in Syria touched a raw nerve in Ms. Lo.

  161. Ahoy says:

    @Lo @162

    You need to brush up your 20th century lessons. Turkey is a Rothschild construct. The so called builder of Turkey Kemal Ataturk was a Khazarian jew. It all started in 1918.

    Turkey is under complete control of Israel and major supporter of ISSIS. Thank God for sending down to earth Putin to go after those animals, the Turks.

  162. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    “The Russians feel fighting Turkey is below their dignity, and prefer to keep the fighting in Idlib as a proxy war. The dignity point is important: traditionally, the Russians go to war only with great powers.”

    False.

    Russia went to war with Georgia (2008).

    Russia went to war with Ukraine (2014).

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @Robjil
  163. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    Russia is afraid of Turkey.

    The author says he admires Erdogan.

    Erdogan started off with a “Zero problems with neighbors policy.”

    Now he has problems with EVERY neighbor.

    That’s failure where I come from.

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
  164. Robjil says:
    @Anonymous

    Russia did not go to war with Ukraine in 2014.

    The US did. It took over Ukraine with Nuland’s thugs during the Sochi Olympics.

    It was the biggest, cheapest heist since the Dutch got Manhattan from the Native Americans.

    The British later stole that from the Dutch though.

    Crimea did not want to be part of ZUS Nuland’s cookie land.

    It voted to go home to Russia.

    Lugansk and Donestsk did not want to go to Nuland’s playground either.

    Russia did not help them or let them vote out. Thus, fighting between ZUkraine and an independent Ukraine in the East broke out.

  165. So, for Russia to fight Turkey is beneath her dignity (according to Israel Shamir), because Russia only goes to war against a”super power” ! So how do we explain Russia fighting the opposition fighters against the Syrian regime? are the a super power, or they are all terrorists and extremists?!

    Of coarse they are neither super power nor totally terrorists and extremist. people like Shamir, and most of the pro Russian & Syrian dictatorship regime, intentionally try to forget how the Syrian people revolution started in 2011, when the Syrian people saw a glimpse of hope in the Arab spring that they might get rid of a vicious, corrupt and oppressive criminal single family gang that degraded them into slavery frightened subhuman creatures for half a century, without any hope of change.

    This is how the Syrian uprising started, and the long suffering without success made it vulnerable to be mixed with all sorts of external interests and powers, including terrorists, which served people like Israel Shamir, ( Russia,Iran & Hizbullah), to rubber stamp the whole revolution as nothing more than terrorists.

    It’s sad to see so many presumably people of high moral and ethical standards & world view, completely ignore these facts, while they give a full unabated support for a criminal dictator, who doesn’t care if the whole country and it’s population are destroyed and exterminated, only for him to stay in power.

    What a shame.

  166. @Lo

    Whose the mentally disabled one here…obviously your reading comprehension is on a third grade level or less … if you really must know, provide your address and I will make sure you can experience and evaluate your fantasized head kick for yourself

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