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President Putin is a pirate, no less. In his declaration at the UN, he stole President Bush Jr’s copyrighted 2001 call to fight Terror. That’s why the Americans were taken aback: the Russian President played back at them the best tropes of their own presidents. This was a clever subterfuge: instead of pointing out the disagreement between the Russians and the US, Putin took the whole American discourse and appropriated it. People conditioned to this talk swallowed it, hook, line, and and sinker, and even liked it: readers of the popular NY Daily News preferred Putin’s speech to that of their own president 95% to 5 %. So did Donald Trump. Putin probably would take the Republican nomination if he were to run for it, so Trump wants to take these Putin votes.

And now, the Russians began their war on Terror. George W Bush’s War on Terror was a sham; would the Russian one be any better? The Islamic State (IS, ISIS, ISIL or Daesh, by Arabic acronym), the declared object of the campaign, is an elusive entity, like al Qaeda, – or like the Snark of Lewis Carroll’s poem. It is a franchise, a network, rather than a state. It can’t be undone by airstrikes anymore than al Qaeda was.

Putin said that the US unleashed thousands of airstrikes at Daesh, and nobody knows where those bombs landed and whether they had any impact. The West says the same about the Russian strikes. The British Minister of Defence promptly estimated that 5% of the Russian bombs hit Daesh, while the rest landed on other fighting units a.k.a. “the moderate opposition”. Though this number of 5% could only be achieved by divination or by reading tea leaves, it is plausible that the Russians will use the war on Daesh for their own purpose. What is the Russian plan?

They do not want to present Assad with an unlimited victory. The Russians want to sort out the Syrian mess created by the Assad-must-go mantra, and force the sane opposition to negotiate with the Syrian government, eventually restoring the Syrian state. Forcing someone to negotiate is Russian know-how; they applied it recently in the Ukraine. The Kiev regime was unwilling to negotiate and settle with the Donbass, hoping to win the war. Then crack Russian troops entered Eastern Ukraine to the south of Donbass and moved for the sea port of Mariupol. Their speed, mettle and success were so overwhelming that they could have taken Mariupol and proceeded unhindered to Kherson and Odessa. The Kiev regime sued for peace, the Russians accepted the plea, their troops went home to the barracks, Mariupol remained under Kiev rule, and the Minsk agreements were signed.

Probably the Russians will use the same routine, first in Western Syria, the most populated part of the country. The opposition will have a choice of (a) negotiating and entering a coalition with the government, (b) being bombed to smithereens as Daesh, or (c) escaping to the deserts of Eastern Syria, Turkey or Iraq. The US, French, British and the Turks say that Russians are bombing the moderate opposition rather than Daesh. From Russian point of view, those who refuse to negotiate are Daesh by definition, and so they deserve to be bombed. In short, if they are bombed they are Daesh.

Daesh has strong propaganda value: they make videos of chopped heads and blown up antiques and drive around in dashing new jeeps. They are called the Ultimate Evil by President Obama, President Putin and the Pope. Such an Ultimate Evil has its useful application as it justifies military action. For Obama, Daesh provides a licence to bomb Syria forever. For Putin, Daesh provides a chance to pressure the opposition for compromise.

Does Daesh exist in a normal way, or is an apparition of smoke and mirrors? We do remember that the dreadful al-Qaeda of 9/11 fame turned out to be an almost virtual entity, and eventually became an ally of the US under its new name of Jabhat al Nusra. This is a moot point.

Just consider that the neighbours—Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates—do not fight Daesh.

Daesh says it wants to free Palestine, but they have never, ever harmed an Israeli. The Israelis would fight them if they considered them being dangerous to Israel. Israeli officials have said privately to the Russians: “Daesh are bad guys, but of little importance. Why are you obsessed with them?”

Daesh says they will liberate Mecca and send the the Saudis back to desert, but they never did anything against the Saudis. As the Russian bombs fell, the Saudis were the first to cry “Stop it!”

The Turks said they will fight Daesh, but instead, they bombed the Kurds. Thierry Meyssan, the French journalist based in Damascus, considers Daesh a Turkish creature and says Daesh sells oil to the Turks. The Turks denied that. Turkish officials told me that Daesh sells its illegal oil to Bashar al-Assad and that Bashar does not fight Daesh. Bashar’s people say they do not fight Daesh because they were told to keep away by the US. Back to square one.

This line was confirmed by Russian officials. They said that in September 2014 they were approached by the Americans who warned them that they would begin bombing Daesh-held areas. They asked the Russians to pass a message to the Syrian government saying that the bombing campaign was not aimed against Damascus, and they should sit tight and would not be hurt. The US did not want to speak directly to Bashar al-Assad.

The Russians refused to pass the message. If you have a message for the Syrian government, try Western Union, they said, or do it yourself. And the Americans did it. They told Bashar directly that they will bomb Daesh positions and he should stay out and keep his cool.


It appears that at the face-to-face Putin-Obama meeting at the UN HQ, this argument was aired again. President Obama said that Assad does not fight against Daesh and President Putin retorted that this was the US demand: stay out and do not meddle. Assad waited for a whole year, and so did we, said Putin, and meanwhile the territory under Assad’s control shrunk down to 30% or even less.

Obama demanded more transparency regarding Russian plans and intentions. Putin retorted he also could use more transparency regarding American plans. What do you want to achieve in Syria, asked Obama. Putin asked the same question, and got no answer. Obama said Russian involvement in the war with Daesh would fortify Assad. Putin asked: whom will your involvement fortify? We do not want to liberate territories for Assad, said Obama. For whom, pray tell me, do you do to liberate the territories?, asked Putin, and received no answer. Who will rule the territories after your victory? Again there was no clear answer.

This is the difference between the Russian and American approach: the Russians want to save the Syrian state, while the Americans want to rejoice in the fall of the tyrant. Russians stress that they are not committed to Assad’s rule. They “aren’t married to Assad”, as they say. To Obama’s Assad must go, Putin did not reply with Assad must stay. This is not your business, he said, and it is not Saudis’ business neither. This is an internal Syrian affair. We do not want to remove or appoint presidents in other countries, said Putin.

Indeed, Putin could have removed the Georgian president in August 2008, he could have saved the Ukrainian president Yanukovych in February 2014; he could have changed or replaced presidents in other neighbouring states like the US removed Noriega of Panama, but, for good or for ill, he did not do it. Regime change is as American as apple pie; Putin does not go for it. Many Russians think this adherence to international law is Putin’s fault; perhaps, nobody is perfect.

Putin reminded Obama that at G8 summit in Northern Ireland it was decided to arrange a meeting of all the Syrian parties against terrorism. However, the US proposed to form a united Syrian coalition government and only afterwards to proceed to fight terrorism. The Russians proposed to do this by parallel tracks, forming a coalition and fighting terrorism, but they could not prevail. Russians are committed to the Geneva-1 agreement calling for the negotiations of all Syrian parties of the conflict. The US are co-signatories of Geneva-1, but they refused to act.

Russians made a huge effort to get the opposition together for negotiations, but in vain. The opposition is fragmented into thirty or more groups, and they can’t even sit together, let alone sit with the Syrian government. When the Russians proposed a conference, the opposition refused. They said: the government has a position, but we have thirty differing positions, how can we negotiate? The Russians asked the powers to produce at least a short list of moderate opposition groups. Only Turkey came up with a list, but this list was totally unacceptable to Egypt, as it contained mainly Muslim Brotherhood splinters. Other powers did not even propose a short list.

A month or so ago, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made the last attempt to convince the opposition saying “if you do not work together, Syria will cease to exist. There will be no Assad, and no Syria. Damascus will fall to Daesh”. It did not have an impact either.

Russia made a great effort to build consensus around its actions in Syria. It appears that the recent British killing-by-drone of two British subjects in Syria has influenced the Russian mind. The Brits justified this killing in a foreign land, in breach of international law, by Article 51 of the UN Charter (self-defence). Sergey Lavrov was overheard fuming: if having two Brits among Daesh volunteers justifies a British airstrike on the grounds of self-defence, aren’t the Russians entitled to similar recourse as there are three thousand Russian volunteers with Daesh? It seems that this comparison has been made by President Putin. He was also sick and tired of being lectured and restrained while everybody else enjoyed a marvelous freedom of action.

A Daesh victory was unacceptable for the Russians as the traditional custodians of Syrian Christians, for Daesh is very bad for Christians. Some were slaughtered and some had to flee. From this point of view, al Qaeda, al Nusra and similar extreme groups are not better. Russia is committed to preservation of a Syrian state tolerant to religious and ethnic minorities (not necessarily a laic state), but certainly Russia would never allow the majority Sunnis to be discriminated against, either.

Russia is home to some twenty million Sunni Muslims (and very few Shia) who are fully integrated and occupy all walks of life and important positions in the Russian state. One of the more fervent and outspoken Russian Muslims is Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of warlike Chechnya. He expressed his support for the Russian airstrikes and offered to lead his fighters into battle in the Syrian hills in order to save the Syrians from the wrath of Takfiris (=those who call other Muslims “Kaffir”, “infidel” – a name for Daesh and other Muslim extremists). So for the Russians, this is not a Crusade of Christians against Muslims, but a war of Christians and Muslims against Takfiri sects.

Russians are also worried by possible influx of takfiris and jihadis into Russia proper. The US would not mind such a development, as it would keep Russia occupied at home.

The Russians would like to build a grand coalition for saving Syria, a coalition that includes the Western states as well as Muslim states. That’s why President Putin reminded everyone of the grand coalition against Hitler’s Germany. However, there is no chance for such a consensus. The US wants Syria to be utterly destroyed, and certainly it wants the Russians to fail in their endeavour.


That’s why the Russian planes were still on the ground warming their engines while the social networks already went abuzz showing photos of Syrian children killed by Russian bombs. We may expect more of the same in the next few days. If Russians will be successful, their adversaries are likely to set up an atrocity: the downing of a civilian airliner, the bombing of a school,and suchlike. We should be ready for such a development.

Israel Shamir reports from Moscow. He can be reached at [email protected]

This article was published first at the Unz Review.

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  1. If Russians will be successful, their adversaries are likely to set up an atrocity: the downing of a civilian airliner, the bombing of a school,and suchlike. We should be ready for such a development.

    Yup, exactly. The West doesn’t have news anymore; what we now have instead is perception management.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  2. Tom_R says:


    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. You have done a good job again.

    Two things:

    One, Obama did not answer Putin as to why he financed ISIS. I am sure Putin knows that the US is working for Israel, and ISIS’s job is to destroy Syria so Israel can take over a big chunk of it for a Greater Israel.

    Secondly, as a famous American politician said (Ron Paul?), ISIS is riding on a billion dollars worth of American equipment. They have American tanks and armored vehicles, humvees, etc. So if the Russian shoot all the tanks/humvees (except those belonging to real Syrian Army, Assad’s forces), they can decimate ISIS.

    The USA probably has chips inside them to track them and knows all their positions and could have finished ISIS in a few days. So the Russians will have to do the job Americans won’t do.

    • Replies: @patriot7360
    , @Deduction
  3. @Seamus Padraig

    why not just call it with the tried and true old name? propaganda. and it is very effective. has been perfected for the last 20 years.

  4. L.K says:

    Shamir writes:
    “Bashar’s people say they do not fight Daesh because they were told to keep away by the US. Back to square one.”

    Say WHAT??? Pure nonsense. The Syrian military HAS been fighting DAesh for quite some time.
    It’s time that people writing about the conflict in Syria understood the basics, most of the takfiri gangs attacking the more strategic and populated areas of Syria so far, have not been Daesh.
    Nevertheless, the Syrian forces have been in constant battle with daesh in east Homs, Deir ez-Zor Al-Hasakah and other locations. They have inflicted thousands of casualties on daesh and beat them many times.
    The thing is, the presstitutes never show any of it, they only feature the Syrian military when it loses and even then, the msm generally exaggerates their defeats.
    The Syrian government still controls most of the territory that really matters, and they are facing a formidable Waahabi army, which is more numerous, better armed and supported than even the jihadi coallition put together to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
    Syria has been fighting a poor man’s war against a powerful and fanatic array of bandits supported by a coallition of powerful countries led by ZUSA. Takfiri bandits infiltrate from all around the country, from their safe havens in Turkey and Jordan, from destabilized Iraq and weak Lebanon(much less now bc of Hezbollahs campaigns).
    I have no ties to Syria or the Middle East, but i think it is time some folks started acknowledging what the Syrian military has accomplished under the most trying conditions. Those who don’t, simply have not studied this conflict in sufficient detail.

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    ” The Kiev regime was unwilling to negotiate and settle with the Donbass, hoping to win the war. Then crack Russian troops entered Eastern Ukraine to the south of Donbass and moved for the sea port of Mariupol. Their speed, mettle and success were so overwhelming that they could have taken Mariupol and proceeded unhindered to Kherson and Odessa. The Kiev regime sued for peace, the Russians accepted the plea, their troops went home to the barracks, Mariupol remained under Kiev rule, and the Minsk agreements were signed.”

    Where did you get this information? I have searched for actual evidence of real Russian troops actually invading the Ukraine. I have never seen any pictures or such, just stories that some person has heard. Can you cite your source for the “crack Russian troops” invasion?

    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
  6. “At one time kings were anointed by Deity, so the problem was to see to it that Deity chose the right candidate. In this age the myth is “the will of the people” … but the problem changes only superficially.” TMIAHM

    As Drucker said, don’t solve problems create opportunities.

    “The lure of a sterile, distant, “clean” airpower victory seems to be embedded in the human psyche. Many politicians, and a certain breed of warrior, are deeply troubled by the prospect of face-to-face confrontation. And, while they want desperately to inflict their will upon their opponent, they strive to find some way to do so without having to physically confront that opponent, and without having to personally witness the effects of their actions.”

    Russia has actors in the area with air support to solve Syrian problems. The other Syrian problems are in Germany or stuck in the mud in Serbia. The problem changes only by location. There’s no opportunity in the solution. All bombing is an act of deperate grasping at straws. That works until your reach exceeds your grasp. Russia sees future opportunity in Syria. That should work as well as the past future opportunity in Iraq.

  7. L.K says:

    Video footage of General Issam Zahreddine(a syrian druze), commander of the 104th Brigade of the Republican Guard Div. and his men against DAESH/ISIS in Eastern Syria(deir ezzor and hasaka),2014-15. The troops shown are not only guardsmen but also NDF( a sort of national guard created to support the army) and other militiamen, notably the shaytat tribesmen, who are fierce enemies of daesh.
    SAA Operation vs ISIS in Southern Deir Ez-Zour
    Siria – Deir ez-Zor – El General Issam Zahreddine Masacra a las Ratas del ISIS – 1 Abril 2014


    Syria – Aftermath of failed ISIS offensive in Deir ez-Zor, lotsa foreign fighters, including from Europe.
    Syria, Deir Ez Zor, Dead Militants killed by Syrian Arab Army & Al-Shaitat Tribe
    Hasaka, a bloody battle against Daash in 2015, where syrian regulars and paramilitaries led by Brigadier General Issam Zahreddine, working together with the kurdish ypg, defeated daesh.

  8. It is up to powerful countries to protect smaller countries from big bullies. Where was Russia when the USA was lying and attacking Iraq with a bunch of lies. When Russia knew 911 was an inside job and therefore anything the USA was saying blaming 911 on Saudi Arabia and then attacking Iraq. Where was Russia when they could have the nonsense and stopped the destruction of Iraq and might have stopped the millions of deformed babies that will be born in Iraq because of depleted uranium.

  9. @Tom_R

    The US citizens paid for all those hundreds of billions in military machinery and the US government gave it away. So the bullies just keep picking on Iraq, Syria,Libya, Egypt and Yemens. Why didn’t Russia step in when the US government committed the 911 attacks and then lied about Iraq and went into Iraq? If Russia hadn’t stepped in and attacked the enemies in Syria, then this stupid shit would have continued for years. I wish China would say screw America an dump all their debt. I think the USA either doesn’t care about China or Russia is in cahoots with the USA. I do like how Putin just sent Netanyahoo packing when Netanyhoo came with his crap. But I wish Putin would have told Netanyahoo to go pack sand with all his lies.

    • Replies: @Deduction
  10. Bliss says:

    Bashar’s people say they do not fight Daesh because they were told to keep away by the US

    This point is repeated again by Shamir:

    It appears that at the face-to-face Putin-Obama meeting at the UN HQ, this argument was aired again. President Obama said that Assad does not fight against Daesh and President Putin retorted that this was the US demand: stay out and do not meddle.

    But this is clearly contradicted in Putin’s speech at the UN:

    We should finally acknowledge that no one but President Assad’s armed forces and Kurds (ph) militias are truly fighting the Islamic State and other terrorist organizations in Syria.

    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
  11. tbraton says:

    “why not just call it with the tried and true old name? propaganda. and it is very effective. has been perfected for the last 20 years.”

    Well, that old-fashioned name might have been suitable back in the day when we actually fought wars authorized by Congress, but not in an age where we engage in kinetic military activity, where Congress has no say either before or after such activity has been instituted. After all, we no longer drive around in old-fashioned “Jeeps”; we drive around in “Humvees”—and so do our “enemies” ISIS and Al Qaeda. It is just in the area of naming our operations that we appear to have fallen behind. It looks increasingly that one of the names I proposed over at TAC about a year ago for our current military activities in Iraq and Syria was most appropriate: Operation Enduring Incoherence or Operation Incoherent Resolve.

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Russia surely knows the Aikido martial art: In Aikido, an attack is never stopped. It is met and guided in a way that causes the attacker to be thrown by the directional force of his own motion.

  13. Odysseus says: • Website

    Let the whole fucking Middle East fall. Russia and Israel can fight over the dwindling oil supplies and worthless desert. Long past time that we focused on our own hemisphere’s bountiful resources and started defending our own borders and shores.

  14. @patriot7360

    WTF? So that was all Russia’s fault? lmao … What could Russia have done? The american public where sold the lie, just as they have been sold so many before. At least this time Russia has stepped in, just as the Syrian lie had been sold to them. Russia has spoil t the party, The western invasion of Syria is on hold. The US and their bum boys will hypnotize you with Barrel Bombs Barrels Bombs barrel Bombs, 10’s of thousands of dead civilians…. every time a western official opens his mouth,,, then surprise surprise …… thousands of civilians may just die, from barrel bombs …. and the party will be back on

  15. @Bliss

    Indeed, politicians say different things in private and in public .

    • Replies: @Bliss
  16. @patriot7360

    Russia, Germany and France together could not change the US decision to attack Iraq.

  17. @Anonymous

    I rely upon my sources. No, I will not cite them.

    • Replies: @Junior
  18. Sorry, but Russian troops did not enter eastern Ukraine.

    The people of eastern Ukraine, using armaments stored there by the USSR, defeated the Ukrainian army.

  19. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The most excellent article with the most objective approach on the issue. I congratulate the athour . continue writing without and fear.

  20. L.K says:

    Israel Shamir says:
    ‘Indeed, politicians say different things in private and in public .’

    As a matter of fact, Putin told the truth in public. The Syrian military HAS since long been fighting Daesh, as well as the multitude of other Waahabi gangs.
    Any person who has done a minimum amount of research into the war should know this.
    Of course, this does not mean that the perfidious zamericans and their allies were not trying to create some no go zones for the Syrian military.
    I suspect that with the limited Russia air force involvement, this will now end.

  21. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder how many special forces from the US and other countries are secretly embedded within these so-called ‘moderate’ forces, helping to guide their activities? It might become more hazardous for them now.

    • Replies: @mad1
  22. I just heard Ben Carson be interviewed by Cavuto on Fox Business News. Carson’s views regarding Russia are downright scary. We have absolutely no one running for President in either party that isn’t spewing Neocom lies. Their verbal attacks on Putin are a classic case of projection. Everything they attribute to Putin is true about themselves and not Putin.

    I truly believe that God has given this nation over to a base and stupid mind.

  23. mad1 says:

    We can hope that some get captured in their escape and get exposed to the world.

    • Replies: @Junior
  24. Bliss says:
    @Israel Shamir

    politicians say different things in private and in public .

    So we should take the word of your secret sources instead of Putin’s assertion before the whole world? Sorry, I am not buying it.

    What makes you think Putin would be stupid enough to say something in front of the UN General Assembly that could be easily fact checked and exposed as a falsehood?

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
  25. Art says:

    “President Putin retorted that this was the US demand: stay out and do not meddle. Assad waited for a whole year, and so did we, said Putin, and meanwhile the territory under Assad’s control shrunk down to 30% or even less.”

    Facts are facts – the US government is not effectively fighting ISIS – why? The sixty nation coalition fighting ISIS, is a joke – it is not fighting ISIS – why? Is this coalition an out and out lie? Aren’t our air force attacks pin pricks that have accomplished nothing? Isn’t this US led coalition, flying a false flag?

    Again, what are the facts? The facts are that nothing is being done.

    The everyday Sunni does not want ISIS – none of the other tribes in the ME want ISIS – no one wants ISIS – so why does it exist?

    The truth is that there is only on winner in all this – Israel. Why is it that ISIS (the self proclaimed ultimate Muslin Arab) NEVER attacks Israeli interests?

    Isn’t ISIS a dream come true for Zionist Israel – isn’t ISIS breaking up the last neighbor Arab country that does not kneel to Zionist Israel —– isn’t the existence of ISIS a false flag operation for Israel?

    Isn’t the US foreign policy a toady of Zionist Israel? Aren’t we deceitfully doing Israel’s business? Well aren’t we?

    • Replies: @Karl
  26. @Bliss

    Who is really fighting Daesh is as ambiguous as Daesh itself. It isn’t “easily” fact-checked.

    I’d recommend judging Israel Shamir’s sources by his track record. Shamir, not Saker, was proven correct about recent Russian plans!

  27. @Minnesota Mary

    with investigative journalism gone to the shits and replaced by turds like fox news.

    the last check the population of usa have on the govt is finally gone.

    the last safety net has been reversed.

    we are fucked. UK has already admitted. I wonder when we, the usa will also finally admit it, you know when the govt finally drops the facade.

    That wasn’t even the last nail, it was when the bought supreme court decided that lobbying/bribing wasn’t enough, outright buying of candidates is now legal.

    • Replies: @Realist
  28. @patriot7360

    Russia was a weak and confused country back then — reeling from the shock economic doctrine imposed by the IMF under Boris Yeltsin. Only now is Russia strong enough to challenge he US in any way.

  29. Realist says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “That wasn’t even the last nail, it was when the bought supreme court decided that lobbying/bribing wasn’t enough, outright buying of candidates is now legal.”

    Exactly right.

  30. Sean says:

    Jul 10, 2013FSA Terrorists behind Aleppo Sarin Gas Attack, not Syrian Army: Russian Inquiry to UN.

    More recently, Russia says U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army not a terrorist group. Only 5% of Russian attacks have been on what the Russians say are terrorist groups.

    The best known FSA line commander Captain Iyad al-Deek was killed in the first airstrikes by the Russians. This is in line with a pattern of Assad forces concentrating on the FSA. The butcher of Damascus is known to have been attacking the Free Syrian Army and helping Islamic State win key territory from their real enemy, the FSA.

    Islamic State fighters pushed back rival insurgents north of Aleppo on Sunday near the Turkish border, threatening their supply route to the city, fighters and a group monitoring the war said.

    Fighters from Levant Front, a northern alliance which includes Western-backed rebels and Islamist fighters, said they were worried Islamic State was heading for the Bab al-Salam crossing between Aleppo and the Turkish province of Kilis.

    “Reports indicate that the regime is making air strikes in support of ISIL’s advance on Aleppo, aiding extremists against Syrian population,” a post on the U.S. Embassy Syria Twitter account said late on Monday, using an acronym for Islamic State.

    • Replies: @bunga
    , @5371
    , @bunga
    , @bunga
    , @KA
    , @annamaria
  31. bunga says:

    ” On April 25, the head of the Israeli army’s Military Intelligence research and analysis division, Brig. Gen. Itai Brun, delivered a high profile lecture at the military-linked Institute for National Security Studies. “To the best of our professional understanding, the [Syrian] regime has used lethal chemical weapons,” Brun declared, referring to March 19 attacks near Damascus and Aleppo.

    “The very fact that they have used chemical weapons without any appropriate reaction,” Brun said, “is a very worrying development, because it might signal that this is legitimate.”

    The stunning statement by the Israeli army’s top intelligence analyst was significantly stronger than suspicions expressed days before by the UK and France about the Syrian regime’s use of chemical weapons. It was clearly aimed at Obama, who had declared in the summer of 2012 that chemical weapons attacks on civilian targets would transgress a “red line” and trigger US military action. But the White House pushed back against the Israeli ploy, dispatching Secretary of State John Kerry to demand Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu supply more conclusive evidence.

    “I don’t know yet what the facts are,” Kerry said after a phone call with Netanyahu, “I don’t think anybody knows what they are.”

    Specious intelligence brightens the red line

    Flash forward to the August 21 Ghouta massacre, where over 1000 Syrian civilians died without any sign of external wounds in a series of attacks. As in April, Israel has come forward with intelligence supposedly proving that the victims of the attacks died from nerve gas deployed by units from Assad’s Syrian Arab Army (SAA).

    On August 24, Israel’s Channel 2 broadcast a report claiming that the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of Assad’s SAA fired the nerve gas shells on Ghouta. Channel 2 added that Israel was relaying its concerns to Washington, suggesting an urgent demand for US action. The report was echoed by an August 30 article in Germany’s Focus magazine claiming that Israeli army’s Unit 8200 — a cyber-warfare division that functions much like the American NSA — had intercepted communications of top Syrian officials ordering the chemical attack.

    Oddly, neither outlet was able to reproduce audio or any quotes of the conversation between the Syrian officials. Channel 2 did not appear to cite any source at all – it referred only to “the assessment in Israel” – while Focus relied on an unnamed former Mossad official for its supposed bombshell
    – See more at:

  32. 5371 says:

    Do you have limitless stamina for copying and pasting nonsense?

    • Replies: @Sean
  33. bunga says:

    The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is set to “mount a major blitz” in support of US President Barack Obama’s resolution to take military action in Syria, the Washington-based Politico website quoted officials with the group as saying on Thursday.

    The powerful pro-Israel lobby in Washington came out in support of the resolution in a statement issued earlier this week, but was expected to step-up its lobbying efforts, as the measure to attack Syria was thus far failing to muster a sufficient number of votes to pass in the House of Representatives, according to lawmakers.

    Politico quoted officials as saying some 250 Jewish leaders planned to make the case to lawmakers next week that failure to act in the face of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s use of chemical weapons would serve to embolden Iran in its pursuit of nuclear weapons.

  34. bunga says:

    The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.
    According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.
    The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus.
    The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable in Washington, DC.

    ccording to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.
    However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.
    The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.
    According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.
    The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.
    The New York Times reported this morning that the White House is now backing off its claims to have a “smoking gun that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to the attack.”
    The new argument is more deductive: since the Assad regime has chemical weapons and chemical weapons were used in Mouadhamiya, therefore the Syrian regime must have been the ones to use them.


  35. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:
    @Israel Shamir

    And I have sources that I will not cite that say that you have an agenda to muddy up the waters with your BS.

    So according to you Russia stormed through the Ukraine and Assad isn’t fighting Daesh hunh? Absolute and utter nonsense.

    I beg anyone reading this not to use these nonsensical baseless falsehoods in any conversations that you may have with anyone about why it’s a good thing that Putin is going into Syria. The proven truth is MORE than enough to justify Putin’s actions without making yourself look like a fool for repeating these unfounded charges which make absolutely NO sense from this article.

    Assad isn’t fighting Daesh… I’ve never heard such drivel in my life.

    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
    , @KA
  36. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Excuse me, but those are AMERICAN special forces that you are talking about hoping to get captured who are trying to protect us so that you can even have the right to write such asinine comments. Don’t blame soldiers who are fighting for what they believe to be the betterment of America for the disgusting actions of our leaders.

    • Replies: @mad1
    , @Jeff Davis
  37. @Junior

    I do not know whether Assad’s army fought against Daesh. I just quoted an exchange between Russians and Americans. Perhaps they are wrong and you are right.

    • Replies: @Junior
  38. mad1 says:

    So you know Special Forces are on the ground? My that would be a revelation for the American Press, just doing their best for ISIS I guess.

  39. @Minnesota Mary

    Would the US be run by savages as it currently is if 99% of the population were anarchists?

    All governments are evil, the kiss of death occurs when the public also tends to be.

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  40. @Drapetomaniac

    Yes, our people elect the leaders they deserve. ” Vox populi, vox Dei.”

    Unfortunately, so far, it is people in other lands that are suffering because of the leaders we elect.

    Those of us that are suffering in America suffer because we know what is coming one day.

    • Replies: @mad1
  41. KA says:

    “Shortly after that war, Gen. Wesley Clark recalled Wolfowitz (then Undersecretary of Defense for Policy) explaining the thinking: “We learned [from Gulf War I] that we can use our military in the region, in the Middle East, and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about five or ten years to clean up those old Soviet client regimes – Syria, Iran, Iraq before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”

    Clark highlighted this comment in an Oct. 3, 2007 speech, apparently thinking this might somehow enhance his credentials as a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination (see this highly instructive eight-minute excerpt).

    Clark added that neocons like Bill Kristol and Richard Perle “could hardly wait to finish Iraq so they could move into Syria. … It was a policy coup. … Wolfowitz, [Vice President Dick] Cheney, [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, and you could name a half-dozen other collaborators from the Project for a New American Century. They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” [See’s “Neocon ‘Chaos Promotion’ in the Mideast.”]
    Ray McGovern 10/5/15

    • Replies: @annamaria
  42. KA says:

    “Think of this piece as an attempted antidote to the adolescent analysis by Steven Lee Myers front-paged in Sunday’s New York Times, and, for that matter, much else that’s been written about Syria in the Times and other mainstream U.S. news outlets. Many articles, in accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of bad faith, have willfully misrepresented his vow to strike at all “terrorist groups” as meaning only the Islamic State as if Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front and other violent extremists don’t qualify as “terrorists.”
    Ray McGovern in 10/5/15

    99% of those fighting against Assad are terrorist. Putin should target each and everyone of them

  43. Rurik says:

    Then crack Russian troops entered Eastern Ukraine to the south of Donbass and moved for the sea port of Mariupol.

    is there a link for this?

    • Replies: @Israel Shamir
  44. mad1 says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    If the standards we set for the Germans at Nuremberg were applied to us we wouldn’t have many leaders left and a much smaller military. I find it amazing that we have flown 6700 missions purportedly against ISIS at a cost of 500+ million dollars and ISIS grew and grew,
    the Russians have flown something like 250 in less than 10 days and reports are coming in they are fleeing by the 1000’s over the Jordanian and Turkish borders, something does not compute.

  45. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:
    @Israel Shamir

    Fair enough, Sir. Fair enough.

  46. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    Have you considered getting on board with either Trump or Bernie?

    Both don’t seem to be following along with the Neo-Con bullshit like the rest of these lemmings in the race. Now, of course as everyone knows, what politicians say and what they actually do are usually two completely different stories, but both of them definitely aren’t spewing the garbage that the rest of these shills are. And that’s a great starting point for me at least.

    Personally, I prefer Trump’s approach on foreign policy in regards to Syria, but Sanders has a proven track record of not going along with the Neo-Con agenda as he did with his vote to not go into Iraq.

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  47. annamaria says:

    looks like Israel-firsters getting upper hand

  48. Sean says:

    Another bullshot comment from you mocking me.But on 22 Sept I predicted the Russians would be attacking the Free Syrian Army not Islamic State and you laughed at me, suggesting the Easter Bunny would be next. Anyone can see for themselves

    In my above comment links I show the Russians in 2013 were accusing the Free Syrian Army of gassing their own supporters. The Russians officially said the other day that they are attacking terrorists and now the FSA and not terrorists. Anyone can see

    Russia is deliberately bombing CIA-backed rebels in Syria, US officials have claimed for the first time, as Nato warned that two incursions by Russian jets into Turkish airspace were also “no accident”.
    US officials said on Monday that Russian bombing of America’s allies in Syria was part of a strategy intended to bolster the Assad regime by going its moderate opponents, rather than targeting terrorist groups such as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil.)
    “On day one, you can say it was a one-time mistake,” a senior U.S. official reportedly told the Wall Street Journal. “But on day three and day four, there’s no question it’s intentional. They know what they’re hitting.”

    The strategy is part of a direct challenge to President Barack Obama’s Syria policy, the anonymous officials claimed.

    Assad has already aided Islamic State to move on the key crossing from Turkey .

    Here are excepts of a long article

    Russian authorities have reportedly been funneling jihadists from the North Caucasus into Syria, which could serve a dual purpose for the Kremlin. While sources told The Daily Beast that this could be a desperate tactic on behalf of security agencies and local authorities that are trying to curb Chechnya’s extremism problem, it doesn’t matter on the ground.

    That’s because incidentally or not, the end result is that Moscow gets the benefit of jihadists leaving Russia while the unflux bolsters Assad’s argument that his rebel opposition is full of extremists.

    Not always this way
    When the Syrian civil war broke out in March 2011, many of the rebels fighting the brutal Assad regime were defectors from the Syrian Arab Army and nationalists who took up arms against Assad’s brutal crackdown. {…] But Assad had also infused the nascent opposition with the seeds of its own destruction, as Michael Weiss and Hassan Hassan explain in the book “ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror”:

    On May 31, 2011, only a few months into the uprising, [Assad] issued a general amnesty as part of his package of ‘reforms,’ mostly symbolic gestures aimed at placating the protest movement. In reality, the amnesty was more of a booby trap than a salve.

    Although meant to free all of Syria’s ‘political prisoners,’ it was applied selectively – plenty of protestors and activists were kept in jail, while an untold number of Salafist-Jihadists were let out.[..]

    The original rebels were the FSA, there is no question about that.Mossad and the CIA had no hand in creating IS, the foundering IS leaders were nobodies , an ex policeman with no Islamic credentials. It may be true as Edward Snowden said that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the current IS leader has had contacts with Mossad but their power inside Syria is nothing compared to the Adda regime, and the attitude of the the Assad regime to IS is the key to its success. Assad had the capability to bolster IS into a substantial force and there is a great deal of evidence that IS

    In May Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was seriously injured in an American airstrike in May and while Russia has less capability that the US don’t give me all this Karlin nonsense about the Russians being unable to hit the desert ninjas of IS. Under the pretext of attacking IS, Assad is going to have total war on the population, whereby most Syrians will leave, and they will be flooding into Europe. Defending Europe is what Nato is for and they the Russians are violating Nato airspace in Turkey to exterminate the last of the FSA, following which Europe will get the FSA supporting majority of the population fleeing the Assad mass murder machine. The Russian are pissing down the Wests back and saying it raining. The FSA should be given air cover, Putin should be told his planes will be shot down if they attack the FSA. If they ignore the warning, so be it.

    • Replies: @bunga
    , @5371
    , @bunga
    , @annamaria
  49. @Junior

    Okay, now we get it. A red-white-and-blue flag-draped, fox noise, fact-immune, neocon kool-aid guzzler.

    “…AMERICAN special forces … who are trying to protect us…”

    You mean war criminal pawns of a Zionist-dominated — Neocons dominate the executive, AIPAC dominates the Congress — war criminal US puppet government. The Neocon traitors-for-Israel and their stupid zombie foot-soldiers all deserve to die. Bullshjt US “exceptionalism” will not and should not protect them from justice-by-bullet. And if US military personnel buy into the Zio kool-aid, and get themselves killed through their own stupidity, then it’s tragic justice of their own making.

    You Fail Utterly.

    Here’s the cure: Find an old electric cord, strip the ends and tape them to your temples. Now plug it in. If you survive this DIY electroshock brain wipe, start over, and this time avoid the kool-aid and go for something reality-based.

    • Replies: @Junior
  50. bunga says:

    , the Kremlin has every reason to continue blurring the already indistinct dividing line between “extremist” and “moderate” rebels upon which Western states insist. Even though this neatly black and white categorization of Syria’s murky insurgency is at least partly fiction, it remains a politically indispensable formula for Western states that wish to arm anti-Assad forces. Which is precisely why erasing this distinction by extending airstrikes against all manners of rebels as part of an ostensibly anti-jihadi intervention, may turn out to be Putin’s long-term plan.

    Aron Lund
    Russia should not stop at these rebels but should target Israel and S Arab as well unless they top attacking Syria

  51. 5371 says:

    Why don’t you go volunteer for the FSA yourself, since you are so sure it exists and is being bombed by them evil Russkies?

  52. bunga says:

    The New York Times recently reported about the:
    “…many Israeli leaders and thinkers seizing on the chaos in Syria to solidify Israel’s hold on Golan.”
    Advocates of the new Golan settlements defend them by citing the chaos in Syria:
    “With Syria ‘disintegrating’ after years of civil war, they argue, it is hard to imagine a stable state to which the territory could be returned.”

    The Times quotes Israeli MP Michael Oren who adds a blatant lebensraum argument to the case for good measure:
    “We need places to build, and the world doesn’t want us to build in the West Bank. I don’t think anyone in the world can come at us and say we’re building on land that’s going to be part of a peace deal if we build on the Golan Heights.

    Coping with Crumbling States: A Western and Israeli Balance of Power Strategy for the Levant,” Wurmser made a case for “limiting and expediting the chaotic collapse” of the Baathist governments in Iraq and Syria.
    Wurmser predicted that “Baathism’s days are numbered,” due to its own inherent failings as a stable basis for statehood. Indeed, he argued, Arab nationalism in general was unsuitable for the Arab people, given their particularist and tribal tendencies. Therefore, its adoption can only condemn Arab countries to forever “fluctuate between repression and anarchy.”
    Wurmser called for the West and Israel to help the Hashemite monarch of Jordan win this game of thrones by enthroning one of his kin as king of Iraq.

    We need to create a world when the demagogue not only be dumped with the warmongers but be ridiculed and shamed , when the so called think tank pundits be exposed as the soldiers inside the belly of the beast of the neocon Trojan Horse and be banished from the remotest fringe of the civilization

    The democracy for Iraq was meant for more settlement in Wets Bank .Democracy in Syria is meant for more settlement in Golan . Israel is winning . But how long ?

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  53. @bunga

    Wurmser is just singing the hymn written by Oded Yinon–an Israeli Foreign Ministry official who, more than 30 years ago, first advocated breaking up the Arab states of the Levant into weak, warring sectarian fiefdoms. This would give the Apartheid State plenty of opportunity to play D&R with the Arabs and to expand eastward, moving ever closer to their dream of ‘Eretz Yisrael’ (Greater Israel). Their test case was Lebanon (1982). But what they never expected is that Iran and Syria would successfully stop them there by creating Hezbollah. That’s why they needed the US–Israel’s big, dumb Sabbath Goy–to invade Iraq for them to get the ball rolling once more. But again, it seems they miscalculated: I doubt they ever suspected that Russia would side with Iran and intervene to protect Syria. Oh well…

    • Replies: @schmenz
  54. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:
    @Jeff Davis

    Wow! You’re a special kind of crazy hunh? I think your views would be better expressed laying on a couch in an office.

    I wonder do you pay your taxes? And I wonder if you realize that every time that you buy something you are paying a sales tax which is used to fund our military actions so by your insane reasoning does that not make you also complicit in this and should you not have your own “justice-by-bullet” as you say?

    Do you even realize how flawed and hypocritical your thinking is? Here’s the cure: Therapy… and lots of it.

    Blame our disgusting leaders NOT the soldiers.

  55. annamaria says:

    “Mossad and the CIA had no hand in creating IS.”
    And Mrs. Nuland-Kagan and Messrs. Wolfowitz & Kristols are the peacemakers of the world. Tell us something else that the AEI and AIPAC want us to remember. While you consolidating your sources of “information,” here are two morsels for your entertainment:
    “The World’s Silliest Empire:”
    “Edward Snowden leaked NSA documents show U.S., Israel created Islamic State:”

    Some highly relevant excerpts from the above article:

    “The Americans have been bombing ISIS for a year now; meanwhile, ISIS has gotten stronger and occupied more territory. But they haven’t gotten around to overthrowing Assad; instead, the ISIS boys have been busy prancing around the desert in black head rags and white basketball shoes taking selfies, blowing up archaeological sites, enslaving women and beheading anyone they don’t like. But now it appears that the Russians have achieved in five days of bombing what the Americans couldn’t in a year and the ISIS boys are running away to Jordan; others want to go to Germany and ask for asylum. This has made the Americans upset, because, you see, the Russians were bombing “their” terrorists—the ones the Americans recruited, armed and trained… and then bombed? I know, silly—but true. The Russians will have none of that, because their approach is, if it looks like a terrorist and quacks like a terrorist, then it is a terrorist, so let’s bomb it.”

    “The legitimate, elected government of Syria asked Russia for help; the campaign was approved by the Russian legislature. On the other hand, the bombing campaign that the US has been conducting in Syria is entirely illegal. There are exactly two ways to legally bomb the territory of another country: 1. an invitation from that country’s government and 2. a UN Security Council resolution. The US has not obtained either of them.”

    • Replies: @Sean
  56. bjondo says:

    pretty sure the syrian army has been fighting daesh/isis/zus since daesh first began violence in syria.

  57. Karl says:

    >> Why is it that ISIS (the self proclaimed ultimate Muslin Arab) NEVER attacks Israeli interests?>> Isn’t ISIS a dream come true for Zionist Israel – isn’t ISIS breaking up the last neighbor Arab country that does not kneel to Zionist Israel

    Where ===is=== this list of Syrian attacks on Israel since 1973?

    The Damesek regime has been super-careful to avoid a fight with Israel.

    Why doesn’t ISIS attack Israel?

    Because Israeli girls carry guns.

    • Replies: @Junior
  58. @Rurik

    No, Rurik, it was denied, and it is still denied. I tell you what I know, not what everybody knows.

  59. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Where ===is=== this list of Syrian attacks on Israel since 1973?
    Why doesn’t ISIS attack Israel?

    Because Israeli girls carry guns.


    Syria funds and arms Hezbollah who in turn fund Palestinian Hamas and that’s why Israel wants Assad gone.

    Iran and Syria are allies and that’s why the Saudis want Assad gone.

    ISIS doesn’t attack Israel because ISIS is the Saudis proxy army, and Israel MORE than likely funds and provides military support for ISIS but DEFINITELY provides medical support for ISIS. The Saudis and Israel have formed an alliance that they won’t admit to in public but is evidenced by (among other things that you can find all over the internet by searching Israel-Saudi alliance) the meeting of Anwar Eshki, a retired major general in the Saudi armed forces, and Dore Gold, a former Israeli ambassador close to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    This meeting between Eshki and Gold took place at the Council on Foreign Relations(CFR) which is one of the places where all the Elitist bastards gather together to scheme on how they’re going to bring about the New World Order or Global Governance or whatever the hell their propaganda team has decided to call it now. That’s why ISIS doesn’t attack Israel.

  60. Deduction says:

    If Russians will be successful, their adversaries are likely to set up an atrocity: the downing of a civilian airliner, the bombing of a school,and suchlike. We should be ready for such a development

    I have one minor quibble with your argument. There will be no requirement for these adversaries to set up an atrocity. There will be one, it is war and war is complicated. What these adversaries would likely do is take a real one, remove it from its context and exaggerate it.

  61. Deduction says:

    The USA probably has chips inside them to track them and knows all their positions and could have finished ISIS in a few days. So the Russians will have to do the job Americans won’t do.

    Lol another conspiriac who gets all of his information from fantasy films.

    The ‘chip’ you refer to would be a GPS device and to function correctly it requires a GPS antenna that has a clear shot to the satellites in the sky above. They come installed on most military vehicles in order to ensure that the clock on the radios systems are uniformly set and to provide real time command and control information. They also have to be visible by their very purpose and even someone as obviously clueless as you could remove them.

    The only alternative to GPS capable of location finding and broadcasting that information regularly over long distances is a mobile phone network triangulation device. But this requires good mobile phone signal and a friendly mobile phone network. Also it would need a constant source of power and would be easy to find and remove.

    None of what I write is even slightly secret. All of the technology above is contained in an iPhone. Please think before you make random stuff up.

    • Replies: @Wally
  62. Deduction says:

    It is up to powerful countries to protect smaller countries from big bullies. Where was Russia when the USA was lying and attacking Iraq with a bunch of lies. When Russia knew 911 was an inside job and therefore anything the USA was saying blaming 911 on Saudi Arabia and then attacking Iraq.

    If Putin knows that 9/11 was an inside job then don’t you think he would say something? It would be pretty useful for advancing his interests…

    So either Putin is very weak but we know he is not.

    Or Russian intelligence services are incompetent ,but we know via their hack of all US vetting data that they are not.

    Or 9/11 was not an inside job…

  63. Deduction says:

    I do like how Putin just sent Netanyahoo packing when Netanyhoo came with his crap. But I wish Putin would have told Netanyahoo to go pack sand with all his lies

    Putin is not an Internet conspiriac like you. Since he has a firm grip on real power it is likely that all mention of zio conspiracies makes him laugh, if, of course, he has even heard of such nonsense.

    In the real world, Netanyahu is the particularly capable leader of a regional power within the Middle East. That power is a traditional ally of America but is pragmatically governed. Therefore Putin likely sees it as useful to have a decent relationship with Israel, and, I suppose, he probably personally likes aspects of Israel due to the existence of some Russian-Israeli cultural and historical common ground.

    That is all.

    To those living in the real world Israel is neither a morally unimpeachable force to be endlessly supported nor a great evil to be defeated. It is just a moderately powerful country which exists as a significant but certainly overbearing cog in the clockwork of the Middle East.

    I know that for you to accept this reality you would have to let go of the ‘I am so special’ feeling derived from thinking that you are in possession of secret knowledge that undergirds the way the world works, but it is reality nonetheless.

  64. annamaria says:

    Below is a nice summary of the current US policies, produced by a concerned citizen and posted on Truthdig. The summary elucidates why we have Sean and his posts on the Unz Review:

    by griffinalabama

    “To understand what is happening geopolitically now, it is important for concerned US citizens to learn about “The Grand Chessboard Strategy” of Zbigniew Brzezinski who mentored Obama in the run up to the 2008 election. The “Pivot East” portion of the Grand Chessboard entails the US and western powers destabilizing Russia through a series of sanctions, economic sabotage and proxy wars. They want to take control of the Eurasian continent and it’s vast resources through “death by a thousand cuts” by establishing a large number of small “fires” (wars) around Russia. That is why they pursue a strategy of chaos that seems out of control. It is intentional.

    The $18.5 trillion US dollar pyramid fiat currency is in danger of collapsing against a resurgent Russia that is rich in untapped resources. Putin has done a good job of rebuilding his country. The powers that run the world couldn’t allow this. Brezinskis plan was revealed by a leading German think tank and can be read simply by Googling the phrase “ IMI Analysis Understanding the Grand Chessboard”.


    For those wondering why there is so much obvious propaganda being put out by the US media, it is also worth reading up on Cass Sunstein who Brzezinski, the Neocons and Neoliberals, including Obama, put in place to roll out the “Full Spectrum Dominance” program that was initiated right before the Ukrainian coup in November 2013. Cass Sunstein is the husband of US United Nations representative Samantha Powers and both of them worked on Obamas 2008 election campaign and were also ‘student’s of Brzezinski. Full Spectrum Dominance can also be easily Googled and is a massively expanded continuation of Donald Rumsfelds “Total Information Awareness” program. However, this time around the American people are also victims of US government financed propaganda. To read more about Full Spectrum Dominance simply Google the Guardian UK article titled “ US Spy Operation That Manipulates Social Media”. It also explains that US tax dollar paid Centcom subcontracted trolls are paid to manipulate comment sections and social media outlets in order to ‘protect’ US government interests (propaganda). The UK military also has a Facebook psy ops group. That article can be found by Googling the Guardian UK article titled “ British Army Creates Team of Facebook Warriors. The third group the US also finances to manipulate comment sections is the most vitriolic one and the one you have most likely experienced at popular comment sections. It is the “Ukrainian Information Army” and their signup page can be found by simply Googling their name. They are financed through the US AID program and the National Endowment for the Arts (NED). You are paying your own hard earned tax dollars to be insulted and fed propaganda in comments sections by your own government. It is a fact. It is happening. You are not dreaming it. You are a victim too.

    The IMI Analysis article above explains in detail why they wanted to use Ukraine as a starting point for their strategy. Wikileaks exposed Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko as a US CIA asset back in 2006 well before the coup. That cable can also easily be found online. Victoria Nuland and Donald and Robert Kagan are also neocons that led the Ukrainian disaster. Note that they also use jihadist proxy forces in the Middle East and have caused a massive refugee crisis in Europe. Also note that ISIS have never had their oil refineries bombed by the US, nor have their oil buyers in Turkey ever been sanctioned. Sanctions seem ok against Russia, but not against ISIS. Note that that the US spy satellites over Ukraine saw what really happened to MH-17. Also note that US warships were conducting operation “Sea Breeze” in the Black Sea on July 17, 2014. They know exactly what really happened to MH-17 and have known all along. The reason they never mention even the possibility that the Ukrainian Right Sector may have did it, is because they know they did. To see the truth of the Ukrainian war and all the other Right Sector false flag attacks against civilians simply Google “ Live Leak In Between Days”. That highly graphic video library features 170 videos that show that all the victims are ethnic Russian civilians and the killers of those innocent people are the Ukrainian Right Sector fascist battalions. Many of the videos show the Ukrainians dressed in [email protected] uniforms. The US media has intentionally covered up the plight of the victims while constantly keeping the focus on Russian president Putin as their new bogeyman. Note that before 2013 and the rollout of their plans, the US and EU countries conducted normal business with Russia for over a decade. Currently even Theresa Heinz Kerrys ketchup is still being sold in Russia. Russia never banned US products. The US has damaged it’s own companies through sanctions, including Exxon, Shell, Caterpillar, John Deere, Ford and many others including NASA.

    In the Middle Eastern wars the US is now supporting a number of nefarious factions, some of which conducted the 9/11 attacks. In Libya, US bombings led to jihadist warlords coming to power and caused a massive refugee crisis and thousands of drownings in the Med. That bombing campaign also led to 38 British tourists being killed in neighboring Tunisia. In Yemen, the US is supplying the Sunni Saudi monarchy that are complicit in the 9/11 attacks (28 redacted pages from the 9/11 report) with J-Dam bombs that are killing tens of thousands of civilians. In Syria, the US has backed the Al Nusra Front who are made up of members of Al Qaeda, Daesh and ISIS and have even been shown on You Tube eating a human heart. These groups are interchangeable. There are no moderates. That is a media propaganda catchword. The one group that was effectively defeating ISIS was the Kurds. However, the US decided to let Turkey bomb the Kurds and now they are no longer defeating ISIS. In over a year of bombing sorties, the US has not managed to stop ISIS in any way, shape or form. Instead ISIS has grown and actually gained 10 times the territory in Iraq and Syria. This leads to the assumption that they were not actually bombing them, but instead using them as a proxy army in order to have a ‘legitimate reason’ to go into Syria and overthrow the secular government. Note that Russia has a naval base in Tartus, Syria similar to the naval base they have in Sevastopol, Ukraine.

    In a strange twist, the US has been constantly pushing a propaganda campaign on human rights in Russia which is a social democratic country, while at the same time the US has backed Saudi Arabia and covered up their hangings of homosexual people and has recently had them appointed as head of the UN Human Rights Council.

    We are at the point now where the world is turned upside down. This is quite similar to what happens in George Orwells masterpiece 1984. In the book, the people of Oceania do not realize that the enemy has been switched by the government from Eurasia to Eastasia. The US is now aligned with fascists in Ukraine and jihadists in the Middle East. It is time for concerned US citizens to wake up and do their part to expose the lies of our own government. We are on the edge of WW3 and the lives of you and your children are at stake. Please cut, save and post this message widely. Place it in comments sections so people can be informed of what is really going on so we, on both sides of the political aisle, can take back our country. As US Generals Dwight Eisenhower and Smedley Butler once said….the enemy is not foreign……it is domestic.”

    • Replies: @Junior
    , @Kiza
  65. bjondo says:

    israel the thief and murder wants everybody gone.
    for their beloved, jewry in u.s., has amurderka destroy what israel wants destroyed.
    the yinon plan was not in response to assad, hezbollah, hamas or whatever excuse jewry needs for its violence

    • Replies: @Junior
  66. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Hell yeah annamarina! That is one of the most incredibly succinct breakdown of events with verifiable proof for any doubters that I have ever read! Right on with spreading the knowledge!

    The only thing that I would add for people to be aware of is the Israeli Governments sponsored propaganda groups called Hasbara Fellowships that flood the web and comments sections like the ones you listed above and can also be easily Googled.

  67. schmenz says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    “That’s why they needed the US–Israel’s big, dumb Sabbath Goy–to invade Iraq for them to get the ball rolling once more.”

    Ever since the days of Pontius Pilate these folks have been getting someone else to do their dirty work for them.

  68. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Stop with your attempts at misdirection to try to make people think of anti-semitism so that they tune out anything that they read here. Blame Zionism NOT the Jewish religion.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  69. Capper says:

    I’m relatively new to this site so I have much to read, but so far a I have yet to find a single critical statement about Vladimir Putin in any of these articles, which has me wondering: is this some sort of Russian government-funded site or are these authors honestly just a bunch of supplicating Putin apologists?

    It’s right to condemn many of the things that NATO does, but not to cast doubt on the second most aggressive military in the modern world makes you look like shills at best and complete morons at worst. Dangerous morons.

  70. bjondo says:

    must have hit a bullseye. certainly not misdirection.
    zionism is part of judaism.
    blame judaism and the jews created by judaism.
    diseased minds from a diseased belief system

    • Replies: @Junior
  71. RobinG says:

    “second most aggressive military”….???

    Not even close. Behind US is Israel, probably Turkey, how about French and Brits destruction of Libya, Canada keeps a low profile but seems to be everywhere the US is…..

    As for not bashing Putin, other folks here can clue you in. (Where’s that NJ thread… can’t find your butt…)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  72. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    You ARE aware that Christianity has it’s roots in Judaism correct? So if Jesus was Jewish then by your logic do all Christians have “diseased minds from a diseased belief system” as well? Was Jesus, who was a practicing Jew, a Zionist?

    All Jewish people aren’t Zionists, and all Zionists aren’t Jewish. The sooner that you get that fact to register, the sooner you might get people to take your opinion seriously.

    • Replies: @5371
  73. @Junior

    So far there isn’t a candidate that I can vote for for President. The GOP candidates are all brainwashed by the NeocoMs and will lead us in to perpetual wars for their empire.

    Bernie Sanders? No thanks. Socialism doesn’t work, and we have too much of it already.

    • Replies: @Junior
  74. 5371 says:

    [All Jewish people aren’t Zionists, and all Zionists aren’t Jewish]

    True, but it is also true that Judaism started with the Zionism of the scribe Ezra and his followers.

    • Replies: @Junior
  75. Sean says:

    Again, IS was not founded by the current leader, who was severely injured in a US airstrike in May.

    Israel does not want Assad to be overthrown it wants the war to go on, without any US involvement (because if the US is engaged in Syria it will be lass likely to attack Iran. That is probably why the airstrikes on Assad over gassings never happened, because the neocons didn’t want it. It was reported at the time in the media that Israeli strategist were against the US bombing Assad, and it didn’t happen, did it.

    Islamic State have been fighting the Free Syrian Army and were helped by Assad to take over were the ones who started the uprising and the rebels who have been doing most of the fighting of Assad forces, partly because Assad attacks them ceaselessly. The Free Syrian army have support from Gulf countries and they would probably be capable of winning outright without intervention by Russia. IS mainly an Assad creation, he knows IS would never be allowed to defeat him. So Israel may like IS preventing the FSA winning but they like Assad hanging on and keeping the war going. It should be easy to understand that Israel wants the Syrian civil war was to go on and on and on because Israel supplied both sides in the Iran-Iraq war too. Israel does not want to overthrow Assad, and Israel likes the Russians propping him up. the FSA can win so Israel wants then weakened, if the FSA were about to be defeated then Israel would want them strengthened. Understand?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  76. annamaria says:

    Yes. I do understand that the facts are secondary for people that think about themselves as superior to others. May I suggest you read some of the MSM many long articles to get a feeling of plutocracy’s extreme irritation with the RF bombing the US/Israel ghastly terrorist creation in the Middle East.
    As far as I remember, the acknowledgment of the US role in creating ISIS has been posted in response to your posts already. Like this one:

    • Replies: @Sean
  77. bjondo says:

    christianity is the opposite of judaism. the only root of christianity from judaism is that Jesus came to warn the world against judaism and its adherents.
    one is love, justice, mercy, forgiveness – christianity
    the other is hate, vengeance, slaughter, greed, murder, lies, manipulation.

    christianity is in no way related to judaism. the old testament does not belong near to the new. the old is from satan. the new is Jesus/God.

    Jesus was not a jew. Jesus was the very opposite.

    Jesus came to save the world from jewry. that is why jewry of his time had Jesus killed. that is why Jesus is still no 1 on jewry’s hate, attack list.

    find me a jew who believes israel should cease existing. the zionists that arent explicitly jews are hired puppets or antiChrist old testament jews (the so called christian zionists like the paid pig hagee )

    • Replies: @Junior
  78. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    That sounds like some revisionist history if I’ve ever heard it. Maybe Zionism started with Ezra, but Judaism started with Moses.

  79. bjondo says:

    clapper, be more explicit. which military is the 2nd most aggressive?

    the u.s. is the most violently aggressive.
    israel would be no 2 plus israel has attacked the u.s. plus most if not all of amurderka’s arab-muslim aggressions have been for israel/jewry

    remember, u.s. politicians are paid whores by aipac and co, much of the state dept and dod are infested by jews and their hirelings.

  80. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    So then vote to Make America Great Again.

    Trump 2016. Screw the Establishment. 🙂

  81. @Capper

    If it’s hit-pieces on Putin you’re looking for, just take your blue pill and go on back to the NY Times. Unz runs an alt-media website dedicated to covering the stories the MSM ignores, and to bringing us the other side(s) of the stories from the ones we’re all familiar with here.

  82. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Jesus was not a jew. Jesus was the very opposite.

    Yeah and I’m sure that people called him Rabbi because that was just his nickname. Maybe Rabbi was short for Rabbit and that’s why we have an Easter Bunny.

    You are in some DEEP denial buddy. Snap out of it.

    “The fact is, Jesus was born into a family of practicing Jews dedicated to Judaism. As prescribed in the Torah, he was circumcised on the eighth day after his birth. Throughout his life he was thoroughly committed to Judaism, the Torah and Jewish practices. He prayed in synagogues and taught Torah to “multitudes” of fellow Jews. And John the Baptist only baptized Jews to purify them for the expected arrival of the Jewish Messiah. All this is stated clearly in the Gospels”

  83. Wally says: • Website

    Nonsense, Google ‘Lo-Jack’.

  84. Sean says:

    The Israeli strategy is to keep the war going and IS are basically a way to weaken weakening of the Anti Assad forces. Israel might have well be interested in dividing Syria with a IS state but IS survive because the main fighting is between Assad and the Free Syrian Army. If the FSA won they would crush IS within a month.

    IS is killed and captured vetted anti IS fighters the US had spent half a billion dollars training as soon as they entered Syria. The Russians attacked the CIA groups supported by the CIA. The military and CIA are being told to fight IS but they can’t. If you think IS is a project of the CIA you are in effect saying that US army generals would let themselves be hauled in front of congressional committee and humiliated to take the heat off. This idea that some secret part of US intelligence is running IS is crapola. US army generals are not going to commit public career suicide for anyone.

    Here is another report on how the US army is being made to look stupid in a public hearing of a congressional committee, and you think this is a deliberate ploy?

    The Golan hights has been mentioned , here is a RT interview with Chomsky

    Saudi-Israeli relationship is developing on the basis of opposition Iran. It doesn’t really have to do with Syria.

    Israel has shown no indication that it wants the rebels to win in Syria—nor incidentally does the United States. If the United States and Israel were committed to an overthrow of the Assad government, there are things they could do, far short of sending arms—nothing controversial, bombing, for example.

    It would suffice for Israel to mobilize forces on the Golan Heights, which Israel occupies, and has annexed, in violation of [UN] Security Council orders, in Syrian territory, very close to Damascus. If Israel mobilized forces there, the Syrian government would be compelled to move forces to the south, relieving pressure against the rebels.

    That’s one very simple thing that could be done, but there’s no talk of it, because there’s no interest in having the Assad government fall, as far as Israel is concerned. It’s pretty happy just to see Syrians kill each other. And there’s no indication that they would want to change that

    A number of Israeli generals and political commentators have called on the Netanyahu government to provide military aid to Bashar Al-Assad’s regime in Syria in order to prevent its downfall. It is an unprecedented campaign to “Save the Assad regime”.

    According to General Azer Tsfrir, for example, allowing the Assad regime to fall would mean turning Syria into a “black hole” in which the border areas could become launch pads for operations against Israel. Writing in Haaretz, the former military intelligence officer suggested that the fall of Assad would subject Syria to the hegemony of extremist Muslim groups which have declared their desire to destroy the Zionist state. They would, he claimed, become a first degree strategic threat.

    Tsfrir stressed that the most serious outcome of a Syrian takeover by extremists would be the undermining of stability in Jordan, the government of which is an important ally of both Israel and the West. Lebanon’s sectarian and ideological balance would also be disrupted, he said.

    It was the neocons who stopped the US bombing Assad a couple of years ago. Obama wanted to bomb Assad remember? The Israel lobby was opposed because getting into Syria would make an attack on Iran unlikely. If the US does not overthrow Assad or back the people who could overthrow him (ie the free Syrian Army), that shows the US is conforming to what the Israel lobby neocons want. You are backing the Israel / Lobby strategy to keep the Syrian civil war going on, and soon the lobby will blame Iran. Next thing we will be hearing that the way to end the Syrian civil war is to attack Iran. Iran is the primary target of Israel and nothing is going to be allowed to interfere with that.

    • Replies: @Junior
  85. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    That interview that you posted about Chomsky saying that the proof that the US didn’t want to overthrow Assad was evidenced by their lack of bombing Syria was from August of 2014. The US started bombing Syria one month later in September of 2014. So by Chomsky’s own admission it proves that they want Assad gone. If you’ll notice, Chomsky stopped talking about this line of reasoning that the US and Israel didn’t want Assad gone as soon as they started bombing. Show me ONE article since they started the bombing in Sept. 2014 where Chomsky repeats this reasoning.

    Annamarina is absolutely right, you’re a shill. The amount of nonsense that you spout is unbelievable.

    • Replies: @Sean
  86. bjondo says:

    today’s jews want Jesus to have been a jew because it gives them leverage over today’s ignorant torah spouting christians and somehow justifies their slaughtering palestinians, the rightful owners of palestine.

    the judaisers tried to change the message and make it more like what they wanted.

    Jesus came to save the world from jews – the children of the devil.

    jews love to spin, deceive, manipulate, lie, worship gold, prey on the weak.

    Jesus is the opposite: truth, inclusive, love, mercy, grace, forgiveness.

    you and your experts blather on and try to deceive.

  87. Sean says:

    The US is trying to overthrow Assad by bombing Islamic State is it? No the US could flatten Assad’s bases in a few hours if it wanted. Obama was denied the bombing, and the Israelis were happy about that because they did not want the US tied up in a Syria overthrow and occupation (there were articles in the media about this objection). Moreover Chomsky (who sees the US as controlling Israel of course) says Israel could easily do things to make Assads’s position untenable but it isn’t doing them.

    Don’t get me wrong Israel likes there being an unending civil war in Syria (and IS is largely irrelevant to the overthrow of Assad) but Israel doesn’t want the US bogged down in Syria, Israel wants the US free to go after Iran. Before long the lobby will advocate the bombing of Iran as the best way to combat Islamic state and end the civil war in Syria, mark my words,

    • Replies: @Junior
  88. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    Your method of just throwing all manner of confusion at the wall and seeing if anything sticks is completely exhausting. You’ve succeeded in drowning me in your tidal wave of bullshit that I KNOW you don’t even believe yourself but I’m done. You baited me once Mr. Shami… oops I mean Sean, but you won’t do it again(not on THIS thread anymore at least but I’m sure that I’ll fall for it again at some point because you’re pretty good at it). I just saw the Chomsky reference and know how much people respect what Chomsky has to say and so I had to make sure to clear that up so that you didn’t leave people with that false impression of his opinion. Have at it, Sir. Well played. See you on the next article. 😉

  89. 5371 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Without even bothering to read the crap you just linked to, Scam Shameful, I can already tell you don’t know the difference in meaning between the words “aggressive” and “powerful”. Quite revealing regarding your psychological makeup with its inherent vulgarity and empty bluster, wouldn’t you say?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  90. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Interesting, but he said “the most aggressive”. not the “most powerful”.

  91. Kiza says:

    I always have a giggle when I hear the propaganda construct called “moderate rebels” with guns fighting a legitimate Syrian Government. According to the same criteria then the Oklahoma bomber would also be a moderate – he could have bombed the whole of Oklahoma City instead of just the FBI building. Definitely a moderate rebel. We know what the US Government did to that “moderate”.

  92. Sam Shama says:

    Ah I see that faecal digitalis 5371 has dropped in amongst the civil yet again armed with the knack for asinine comments, the latest being a display of nil, in matters inferential.

    Why don’t you go back to your obsession of creeping around handbooks of deviant sex.

    • Replies: @5371
  93. 5371 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Distress at your unmasking as a fraudulent poseur seems to have robbed you of the capacity to write grammatical English, Scam Shameful, you pustulent boil on the bottom of internet conversation.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  94. Sean says:

    One hour ago. Reuters: Islamic State closes in on city of Aleppo in Syrian fighting.

    As a result of Russian airstrikes on Free Syrian Army held Aleppo, the Assad semi-proxy force (Islamic State) are pushing back the Free Syrian Army. Precisely as I predicted. The Russian intervention is not against Islamic state, which is effectively being supported by Assad into becoming the only rebel force. The world will be presented with a choice between IS and Assad, and so he wins. You can expect a zillion new Syrian refugees coming to Europe, not Russia obviously.

    • Replies: @5371
  95. Sam Shama says:

    To the extent that unmasking is at all possible on the internet you sulphurous dunce, you prefer to cover yourself with enough layers and appear only as a meaningless number and fling invectives indiscriminately. As to matters concerning the Anglo-Saxon language, I don’t detect in your turn of phrase any evidence, however faint, of the King’s English, but do rather, the unmistakeable stench of that bastardised tongue used in certain culturally hollowed parts of London these days. Had you been classically educated, you would have understood immediately what I wrote earlier; but of course you are not.

  96. 5371 says:

    Russia isn’t bombing Aleppo, nitwit. IS replacing a fictional force doesn’t involve fighting. They move in, and the con artists who were pretending to be independent of them move out.

  97. Mithera says:

    Thank-you for that Capper. May I bid you goodbye then ? Before you go back to Fux news… “second most aggressive military in the modern world” any links to this interesting piece of “information”?

  98. L.K says:


    Jesus, as others have noted, you are a virulent and cheap propagandist for the ZIO/ZUSAN Empire.
    Give it a rest.
    Your zionist heroes were the MAIN LOBBY pushing for Zusa to bomb Syria, over the false flag chemical “attacks”. This is well documented.

    Although this proxy war in Syria has many fathers, the main parent is Israel and its agents in the US.

    WikiLeaks cables reveal that these plans(to destabilize Syria) came from the Israeli government, and show that the U.S. government intended to work with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and Egypt to encourage the breakdown of the Assad regime as a way of also weakening Iran and Hezbollah.

    “[I]f Syria sufficiently destabilized, it might be in a position where it can keep the Golan Heights forever, or even advance that territory,” Assange said.

    • Replies: @KA
  99. KA says:

    “”With Syria “disintegrating” after years of civil war, they argue, it is hard to imagine a stable state to which the territory could be returned. Further, they say that international — or, at least, American — recognition of Israel’s 1981 annexation of the Golan would be an appropriate salve to Israeli security concerns in the wake of the nuclear deal with Iran. Some proponents of this push, who unlike Mr. Bennett support a two-state solution with the Palestinians, also see this international recognition as an important way to distinguish the status of Golan from the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

    The push for normalization of Israel’s control goes beyond conservative nationalists like Mr. Bennett. Amos Yadlin, the left’s candidate for defense minister in elections this spring, included recognition of Israeli authority over Golan in a recent paper listing potential American steps to soothe Israel in the aftermath of the Iran deal. Michael B. Oren, Israel’s former ambassador to Washington and a center-right member of Parliament, is one of many who see this not only in geopolitical terms but economic too, as a way to ease the housing crisis in crowded, expensive areas around Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

    Rabbi Sach in UK disclosed off camera that the Gaxa attack was about Iran.
    Now a deal with Iran has to be compensated by America accepting seizure of Golan.

    The beast can never be satisfied . The beast will devour America oneday .

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
  100. Rehmat says: • Website

    Israel Shamir is this lengthy ‘armchair’ story never mentioned even once: “Why the US wants a regime change in Syria?”. Under Assads, Syria has always been pro-Israel even though its friendship with Soviet Union during the so-call “Cold War”. Assads never tried to attack Israel to recover its Golan Heights territory – but occupied neighboring Lebanon to counter pro-Iran, anti-Israel Shi’ite Muslim majority.

    The US vice-president, Joe Biden provided the answer to the “puzzle” recently. He said that a nuclear Iran doesn’t pose any threat to the US. The US wants a regime change in Syria because that’s what Netanyahu wants.”

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  101. @Rehmat

    Assads never tried to attack Israel to recover its Golan Heights territory

    Syria can’t attack Israel–Israel had nuclear weapons.

  102. If they run, they are VC. If they stand still, they are well-disciplined VC.

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