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These days, Jerusalem could compete with Davos and Bilderberg. Most distinguished, high and mighty gentlemen have met here, at the Auschwitz Forum in Yad Vashem, The World Holocaust Remembrance Center: kings, presidents, prime ministers; a living proof the Jews have some pull in the world.

The British Court of St James was represented by Prince Charles; France – by President Macron; the mighty US of A sent VP Pence, this supreme achievement of AI (he looks almost human, though not quite). There was also the Governor General of Australia, President of Austria, President of Albania, President of Argentina, President of Armenia, King of Belgium, President of Bulgaria, President of Hungary, Prince of Wales, President of Germany, President of Greece, President of Turkey, President of Denmark, President of Iceland, King of Spain, President of Italy, Governor General of Canada, President of Cyprus, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, President of Northern Macedonia, President of Moldova, King of the Netherlands, Crown Prince of Norway, President of Romania, President of Serbia, Vice President of the United States, the president of Finland, the French president, the Montenegrin President, Prime Minister of Sweden, President of the European Council, President of the European Parliament, European Commission President …

Their hosts used the occasion to the utmost. Mr Netanyahu, the Israeli Interim PM, compared Iran with Nazi Germany and said that destruction of Iran today equals the liberation of Auschwitz then. The Israeli President, Reuven Rivlin, said there is no difference between anti-Semites and anti-Zionists; whoever is an enemy of Israel is the enemy of all Jewish people, very simple.

However, judging by Israeli media attention, there was really just one prominent guest, President Vladimir Putin. While he was in Jerusalem – less than one day – all the limelight was his; all other kings and rulers faded into the background. The power this man has, his grip on public mind and imagination, his charisma -is quite unprecedented. He was treated as an Emperor on pilgrimage, like Kaiser Wilhelm on his 1898 visit to this Middle Eastern town.

Putin knew why he came, and he stayed focused on the topic. His principal theme: Russia saved the Jews 75 years ago and she has earned the support of today’s Jews, especially when you compare her history with that of her neighbours. In his speech, he stressed that very few Jews survived in Poland, Ukraine, Latvia and Lithuania, for the locals did their utmost to catch and kill every Jew who managed to slip out of the German vice. It is not a coincidence that the presidents of the three neighbouring states, Lithuania, Latvia and Poland didn’t come at all; the Ukrainian president Mr Zelensky did come, but stayed away from the forum.

In modern Ukraine there is a widespread cult of Stephan Bandera, the Ukrainian Quisling, adept of Hitler and the leader of brutal gangs (OUN-UPA). They murdered Jews, Poles, Russians and politically untrustworthy Ukrainians. Recently the CIA was forced by law to reveal its documents about the man, and so they did. You can read the original reports here; they describe him as a Nazi spy and a mass murderer. The Banderites were suppressed by Stalin’s KGB, but the gangsters were soon allowed to return to normal life for there was a general feeling that the insurgency was over.

Yet in the post-2014 Ukraine, there are now streets in Kiev and other cities dedicated to his name; his pictures embellish government buildings, and modern Banderites are now a strong fighting force both in Eastern Ukraine against Donbas separatists and elsewhere against Russian-language-speakers. They are even hostile to the recently-elected President Zelensky, considering him too soft by half. Zelensky does not dare to confront them. That is why he avoids the Babi Yar massacre site near Kiev, and why he stayed away from the forum in Jerusalem; his mere presence is enough to enflame the Banderites.

I was asked by a reader, shouldn’t Poles, Ukrainians and Russians sort out their historical issues before tackling the problems of today? In general, I do not think so. I think that the past is the past, and history will take care of itself. Today’s issues must be solved today. If Ukraine and Poland, as well as Lithuania and Latvia were to curtail their anti-Russian policies in conjunction with NATO and the US Deep State, Russia would gladly set aside the crimes of their fathers. But if the governments of these four countries continue to carry on with their hostile politics towards Russia, Russia will be forced to ally with the Jewish power against these heirs of Nazi henchmen.

The Monument

Putin had been treated in Jerusalem as the beloved son and clear favourite of Netanyahu and people in general. Just opposite the Knesset (Parliament), they erected a monument to the Jewish victims of the Leningrad siege, and Putin was asked to inaugurate it. Netanyahu was there, and survivors, and musicians from Russia, too. It was a big and impressive event, one of the biggest of this event-crowded day.

I personally find it of bad taste to commemorate the Jews separately from all the other fallen people of Leningrad. One of my uncles was killed in 1942 at the defence of the city on the Black River, but he fought and died together with his Russian comrades. Jews seem to have great difficulty empathizing with non-Jews; they always demand separate memorials, and Putin couldn’t force them to do things differently.

Putin was very cautious – he did not say a word about Iran. Russia is a friend of Iran; Russian and Iranian navies performed joint naval exercises quite recently. Putin was silent about the alleged plague of anti-Semitism of recent days. Straight after the Forum, he went to the Palestinian city of Bethlehem for a meeting with Mahmud Abbas, the president of Palestine. Russians are engaged in the reconstruction of Star Street leading to Manger Square in front of Nativity Cathedral in the city.

Putin was the only one of the many Forum guests who balanced his visit to the Jews with a visit to the Palestinians. He also met with the Patriarch of Jerusalem, expressing his support for the native church of the Holy Land.

Correction

ORDER IT NOW

For some time, Putin has been increasingly disappointed with the Israelis. Israelis are very difficult people to deal with: whatever they get, they take as their due. They have no sense of gratitude, and no desire to repay any gestures from the other side. Putin did a lot for Israel and for Netanyahu personally – he returned to Israel the mortal remains of an Israeli soldier who had been killed in action in Lebanon many years before; he fulfilled many big and small requests of the Israeli PM. Not such big and impossible wishes like removing the Iranians from Syria or delivering the Messiah, but reasonable requests. Yet still he encountered the Jewish dislike of paying back.

By request of the US, a Russian programmer was detained in Israel in 2015. Despite Russian appeals, Israel refused to return the detainee, and quite recently they shipped him to the US, where this young man can expect many years of jail time, and possibly torture to force him to “confess” to interfering in the US elections. Russians were very upset with this Israeli decision, as well as with the Israeli shelling of Syria.

Then in April 2019 a young Israeli woman called Naama Issachar flew from Delhi to Tel Aviv via Moscow, and in Moscow airport the drug squad discovered hashish in her backpack. She was detained and sentenced to over seven years of imprisonment. In Russian terms, it is quite a heavy sentence for 10 gram of hashish, though in some countries she would be lucky to escape a death sentence.

Not surprisingly, Israel turned the Naama case into a tool against Putin and Russia. They said that Russians should release the woman because, you know, when Israel asks, nobody denies their request. Naama’s Russian lawyer, a convinced Putin hater, undermined efforts to swap the smuggler for the programmer. He told Naama’s family that she will be released in any case, and Naama’s mother explained that she rejects the swap because she does not want to help Putin. But Naama was not released.

Belatedly, the Israelis finally began to get the hint that Putin was annoyed with them. They decided to sort things out. There were many things Russia had complained about over many years, and the Israelis had always refused to comply:

  • Much to Russia’s chagrin, Israeli immigration has a nasty habit of turning Russian visitors away at the Tel Aviv airport. Five thousand Russian visitors weren’t allowed to enter Israel last year.
  • Russian church property has not been returned nor registered by Israeli authorities;
  • A Russian monastery had its access cut off, and a tramline had been laid through its territory etc.

At last Israel has decided to fulfil some of these Russian requests. As I discovered, on December 30, 2019, they ruled to transfer one of the most precious holy sites, St Alexander Church, located next to the Holy Sepulchre, back to Russian ownership. This plot of land was bought by Tsar Alexander III in the middle of the 19th century. Excavations uncovered an ancient gate and a wall of Jerusalem from Christ’s days; it is probably the gate from which He exited the city as He was led to Golgotha. A narrow aperture in the wall could be the Needle’s Eye, the gate for a late pedestrian that a camel would find almost impossible to squeeze through. The Church had some accommodation for high-ranking guests, and Nicolas II apparently stayed there during his visit as the Crown Prince.

After 1918, the church remained in the hands of White Russian émigrés, and in 2004 it had been taken over by an adventurist Ukrainian Jew who claimed to be heir and descendent of Count Vorontsov. For many years, the Russian government demanded the transfer of the church to rightful Russian ownership, but Israeli authorities had steadfastly refused. Now Israel is cooperating on condition that within 60 days all other competing claims be presented. There is a good chance that in the beginning of March the church will be returned to the Church of Moscow.

Yet it could fail, too. The Israeli media recently demonstrated its power to whip their readership into a frenzy; concurrent reports about the Naama case almost completely displaced stories of the Holocaust Forum extravaganza. A foreign observer might imagine that all this great gathering occurred in order to save this daughter of Zion from Russian clutches. Putin was pushed to pardon the smuggler on the spot. He wisely avoided it; employing the standard Israeli response: “It will be okay”. Yet if Naama is released before the church is transferred, the Jews may be tempted to refuse the transfer. Israelis hate to give anything for free; it is a phobia, this fear to be labelled a sucker. It’s psychologically easier for them to trade a Russian church for an Israeli girl. But this misrepresentation also makes possible some last minute cheating.

Still, all things considered it seems that Israeli authorities have decided to mend relations with Russia. They took good care of Putin, and they prefer his version of history to the Polish and Ukrainian variants. They officially recognised the decisive role of the Red Army in destroying Nazi might and in breaking the gates of Auschwitz. By doing this they righted many of the wrongs against Russia, and clearly went against the US brief.

VP Pence did not mention that it was the Russian Red Army that liberated Auschwitz. He only spoke of American soldiers who indeed participated in the war (and who still occupy Europe – though he did not bring that up). US leaders habitually describe Stalin and Hitler as twin horrors, thus allowing Poland and Baltic states an easy way out. The new version established in Jerusalem is not only more correct and just; it is also a relief from the customary anti-Russian bias and a chance to postpone global nuclear war. Don’t forget, the Doomsday clock is still ticking down; it is now 100 seconds to midnight.

Dynamic Mr Putin

Putin is so different from his predecessors, from beefy Yeltsin and obsequious Gorbachev! He is lissom, agile, quick, friendly, totally devoid of pomposity and pretence. He is full of energy and quick to respond, but also able to keep his poker face and to maintain silence amid the uproar. That is the man we saw in Jerusalem. He met people and gave speeches and made decisions – more than a young man can. And he is not old yet, 67 as opposed to Trump’s 73 or Sanders 78. I think he will be able to work for many years more to come.

ORDER IT NOW

That is why I doubt the change in government last week is a sign of the approaching retirement of Mr Putin. To me, it is just a normal reshuffling of government. The new ministers are younger than the old ones. The new PM will continue his job of digitalising Russia, just as he recently digitalised the Internal Revenue. Russia is going through modernisation, and Putin needs younger comrades-at-arms. Some are very young: the new Minister of Culture’s healthy lack of reverence has already caused some butthurt among artists grown accustomed to Western grants. The most important positions – Foreign Office, Defence – remain in the old hands, and will assure continuity. Mr Putin will not retire any time soon, but he probably needs more people who understand his intentions and who are ready to fulfil the tasks.

It’s not like he has a choice. In the present situation, nobody can guarantee his well-being. The fate of Saddam and Gadhafi has to be fresh on his mind. And he seems to manage all right. He proved it during this short, overloaded Jerusalem visit.

P.S. Just at the time of Auschwitz forum, the Russian court took up the case of Dr Roman Yushkov. He was accused of Holocaust denial, and he won, for H denial is not a crime in Russia. Encouraged by his victory, Dr Yushkov sued the state for six million roubles for damages, and on January 21 the court gave him 50 thousand roubles as compensation. Russia is the freest country in the world, it seems. You can write to him at [email protected].

Israel Shamir can be reached at [email protected]

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. German_reader says:

    This article is just vile neo-Soviet propaganda. I don’t even like Polish right-wingers, given how anti-German they are, but calling them the heirs of “Nazi henchmen”? Were the the men and women of Armia Krajowa Nazi henchmen? Russia won’t be doing herself any favours by resorting to such primitive lies, as some official spokesmen like Vjacheslav Volodin already seem to have done. As for Shamir, not hard to imagine him as one of those guys with leather coats and blue caps in other circumstances, he’d probably have relished his work.

  2. A123 says:

    Russia and Israel remain solid allies:

    — One of the most powerful political parties in Israel, Yisrael Beiteinu, is for Russian speaking Jews. Many of these Russian speakers still have ties to friends and family in Russia.

    — Despite an Iranian false flag operation shooting down a Russian plane, Russia continues to support Israeli air strikes against unwanted Iranian infiltrators in Syria.

    — Israel and Russia cooperate in military sales. For example, the $800MM contract for Indian Air Force AWACS planes.
    __________

    Is there room for improvement in Israel-Russia relations? Of course. However, one cannot deny the rock solid & extensive partnership rooted in shared cultural, financial, and military matters.

    The change in Russian government structure is unlikely to have any significant impact on decades of good relations between the two nations.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  3. Sure hope this a case of Putin keeping his “enemies closer”. In my opinion, Israel (and especially Netanyahu) is not to be trusted.

  4. Skeptikal says:

    “I was asked by a reader, shouldn’t Poles, Ukrainians and Russians dwell more on the historical events to make things clear. In general, I do not think so. I think that past is past, and let it take care of itself. What is important that’s present. ”

    well, I could not disagree more.
    It is obvious that there is a movement afoot—not just in the Ukraine and Poland but also in Canada, the EU, and I am sure, DC—to rewrite history to support the current russophobia. It is an effing outrage. I cannot believe that Shamir is so obtuse as to skate over this with “let the past take care of itself.” The the hell does that mean?

    I find that Shamir’s writing is uncharacteristically unclear in this piece.
    The tenses are all screwed up and many sentences just don’t make sense.
    Weird. I expect more out of Shamir than this shambolic and inconclusive writing.
    .

    • Disagree: Miro23
  5. Saggy says: • Website

    for the H denial is not a crime in Russia.

    ????? Holocaust Deniers in Russia Now Face Five Years in Prisonhttps://forward.com/news/breaking-news/197664/holocaust-deniers-in-russia-now-face-five-years-in/

  6. Erebus says:
    @Saggy

    That article is from May 5, 2014.

    The case law established by Yushkov’s trial places Forward’s ravings in their proper place. The trash bin.

  7. @Saggy

    Any law that would punish Dozhd (TV Rain) and Viktor Shenderovich is not a law against HD. These persons are Zionist Jews, who love to call Russians – “worse than Nazis”.

  8. @Skeptikal

    The the hell does that mean?

    Indeed))) Aren’t you uncharacteristically unclear in this question? I’ll explain anyway. I am against historical obsession. Though Banderites were a murderous lot, I won’t dig their crimes out now – if they would not attack the Ukrainians seeking friendship with Russia. I count Mahler among my friends – though I do not agree with his interpretation of history and with his admiration of Fuehrer, his political position on current issues is correct. I would not bother with any interpretation of history if the person is on the same page regarding actual politics. Am I clear now?

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Skeptikal
  9. @German_reader

    Poles have no sense of honor. You can see it in the behavior of modern Polish politicians, but also among the many (brainwashed) ordinary people. Failing to acknowledge their debt to Russia and the Red Army, claiming that “Ukrainians” liberated Auschwitz – Poles just keep digging deeper hole for themselves, compounding dishonor with utter depravity.

    And yes, they did assist in Nazi genocide of the Jews, and Poland was the only place in Europe to have anti-Jewish pogroms after WW2. These are all facts, but Poland passed a law prohibiting any mention of that.

  10. ‘… If Ukraine and Poland, as well as Lithuania and Latvia were to stop their anti-Russian policies in conjunction with NATO and the US Deep State, the Russians would forget their fathers’ crimes…’

    This almost reads as if you are suggesting that these nations might be forgiven for their past crimes against Russia.

  11. @Sherlockohms

    ‘Sure hope this a case of Putin keeping his “enemies closer”. In my opinion, Israel (and especially Netanyahu) is not to be trusted.’

    No…but Israel can be used. Russia can give Israel what she wants, and Israel can make the US give Russia what she wants.

    ..or, it can flow the other way. If Russia doesn’t give Israel what she wants, then Israel can make the US make life difficult for Russia.

    Herein lies a clue to many of the games that go on with the Ukraine and Syria.

    ….and with the US, of course.

    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    , @Realist
    , @Avery
  12. Milton says:

    Race, Class, and Culture are not the problem; Sin is the Problem.

    Man is not the Enemy; Satan is the Enemy.

    Until we learn these fundamental truths, history will follow the same, bloody course.

  13. You decry Banderists but ignore the Israeli-backed Azov Battalion. Peculiar omission

  14. “ Just at the time of Auschwitz forum, Russian court took up the case of Dr Roman Yushkov. He was accused of Holocaust denial, and he won, for the H denial is not a crime in Russia“

    Very comforting to know that Russia is free from the yoke of the Holocaust. Watching Putin participate in a commemoration of the Holocaust would tempt a rational person to cry in despair ‘ e tu Putin’ but looking at the pragmatic side of life, we can forgive that most able statesman to make use of the Holocaust myth to feather his own nest.

  15. Anon[454] • Disclaimer says:

    The hosts had used the occasion to the utmost. Mr Netanyahu, the Israeli Interim PM, compared Iran with Nazi Germany and said that destruction of Iran today equals liberation of Auschwitz then.

    Why is a Jew openly instigating for the destruction of an entire nation?

    This seems counter the the Jewish dindunuffin schtick.

    Israeli President, Reuven Rivlin, said there is no difference between anti-Semites and anti-Zionists;

    Then there was no difference between being anti-National Socialist Germany and anti-German.

    oever is an enemy of Israel is the enemy of all Jewish people, very simple.

    See above.

    I can believe that Israel, the Russians, and the other major communist power, the Chinese, are all “solid allies”.

    After all, Israel has a grandiose monument to the raping and murdering communist Red Army dominating one of its bluffs.

    • Agree: 2stateshmustate
    • Replies: @refl
  16. anaccount says:

    I wish people would stop talking about my country, the US, as if it’s actually an independent state. America is effectively controlled by Israel and their American Jew friends.

  17. What is going on currently in the world of high finance?

    Politics and espionage are the ground level, or the visible, of large scale financial concerns. I am curious what events and contracts are taking place regarding oil, minerals, metals, etc.

  18. Ghali says:

    Jews are the best when it comes to propaganda, and this one is the best propaganda Israel can get. As these “distinguished leaders” met in Jerusalem, Israel is openly embarking on a war of extermination against the Palestinian people, including systematically poisoning Palestinian children, and has made it clear that it wants to wipe more than six million Palestinians off the face of the earth.

    In addition, Israel supporters, including the U.S. the EU, and Russia are turning a blind eye to a present Palestinian Holocaust. And with its large arsenal of nuclear weapons, Israel threatened to attack and destroy any country opposes to its criminal genocide. Israel current target is Iran. The “Jewish state” has been pushing the U.S. to start a war in which US soldiers will die on Israel’s behalf.

  19. @israel shamir

    History is both an academic subject & an object of general interest. However, where history becomes near vital — is in so far as it affects, influences the present.

  20. “I find it of bad taste to commemorate Jews separately of all other fallen people of Leningrad. ”
    That goes for ANY victim in WWII. My response to any discussion of the “holocaust” etc which focuses on Jews only is to ask about: Gypsies, socialists, communists, Jehovah’s witnesses, seventh day Adventists, Russians, Poles etc, etc, etc.
    Sometimes such an oversight is the result of ignorance. In others, well, not so much : “Jew’s have a mental problem to demonstrate empathy to non-Jews”.

    • Agree: Old and grumpy
  21. This stupid ‘battle’ goes to show how powerful the Jews are.

    Jews hate Russia. Netanyahu’s relation with Putin is purely godfatherian. They hate each other but need each other for now. And even though Russian power-brokers are good on Jews, many Russians must have negative feelings about Jews or at least certain Jews.

    Jews hate Poland. And deep down inside, any proud Pole resents Jews while Polish cucks suck up to Jews(and homos).

    So, Jews hate Russians and Poles. Russians distrust Jews, and Poles resent Jews.

    Yet, both Russians and Poles feel a need to prostrate themselves before Jews and make a spectacle of how “we are friends with Jews against ___”. So, Russia sidles up to Jews like a lapdog and says “Poles are the real nazis”, and Poland sidles upto Jews like a running dog and says “Russians are the real nazis.”

    It’s all very pathetic and embarrassing for both sides… while Jews laugh and eat like effendi.

  22. Smith says:

    Governor General of Australia, President of Austria, President of Albania, President of Argentina, President of Armenia, King of Belgium, President of Bulgaria, President of Hungary, Prince of Wales, President of Germany, President of Greece, President of Turkey, President of Denmark, President of Iceland, King of Spain, President of Italy, Governor General of Canada, President of Cyprus, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, President of Northern Macedonia, President of Moldova, King of the Netherlands, Crown Prince of Norway, President of Romania, President of Serbia, Vice President of the United States, the president of Finland, the French president, the Montenegrin President, Prime Minister of Sweden, President of the European Council, President of the European Parliament, European Commission President, the Vice President of the USA and the President of Russia.

    The above is the list of enemies.

    The jews play both sides, no matter who wins, the Holocaust myth will persist and braindead idiots will keep supporting Trump/Putin for muh 4D chess.

  23. Antares says:

    Russia saved the Jews 75 years ago

    No holocaust -> no savings.

    One can rewrite history when it is more convenient, and later rewrite it again. Why not? And Russia can be pleased with a church. Good lord! But he did visit the Palestinians. Okay.

  24. TKK says:

    On Putin:

    The friend to everyone is a friend to no one.

  25. Parfois1 says:
    @Saggy

    ????? Holocaust Deniers in Russia Now Face Five Years in Prison –

    I read the linked article and all I could find was the following reference to an offence:

    “wittingly spreading false information about the activity of the USSR during the years of World War Two”.

    That’s not what you stated in the above quote. Shamelessly and knowingly spreading false statements is malicious lying and people who do that deserve punishment because they mean to do harm. That is what you are doing here: spreading blatant lies.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  26. refl says:

    He was treated as an Emperor on pilgrimage, like Kaiser Wilhelm on his 1898 visit to this Middle Eastern town.

    And he can be sure that he will go down in history just the way Kaiser Wilhelm did for the crime of not supporting the Jewish homeland out of his right sense of responsibility.

    Putin is acting correctly. He is a keen political player, towering over the disgracefull lot the West has on offer. But nothing can save amalek.

    It would be great for him to undo some of the greatest lies about the holo story. Just imagine if only some anecdote was released how the NKWD made up the jewish soap. How they bought some rough pieces of soap on some Moscow market, roughed it up a little more…. shall we stamp it with a star of David? – Rather not, that would be to thick a tale…
    And then hand it over with a trembling voice to their counterparts at Nuremberg, and they go pale… because as Americans they could not imagine what soap looks like in a country where it was not all that perfumed.

    Would be great stories to make the world tremble with laughter. But it will never be. Instead, prepare for dark times ahead.

    • LOL: Parfois1
  27. Can an entire nation suffer from Stockholm syndrome? Russia is proof that they can, just as their leader Putin is proof that governments can too. One thing is certain, Putin isn’t half the man Adolf Hitler was.

    “They recognised the decisive role of the Red Army in destroying Nazi might”

    The “Red Army” is really just a euphamism for “Red Terror”, and terror is what the “Red Army” brought, not liberation. Eastern Europe was lucky to escape the judeo-bolschevic genocide, but they too exhibit signs of Stockholm syndrome. It was the united armies of Europe, under Nazi leadership, that prevented the Bolshevic genocide of Europe. Unfortunately people like Israel Shamir are finishing the job for the Bolshevics by constantly grovelling to jewish power. Just like Putin.

    • Replies: @Karel
    , @Anonymous
  28. GMC says:

    Great article – It put a lot of pieces together for me on the relationship between Russia and Israel and then, on the Eastern European regimes and their bought off BS. Say what you want about Putin – the man holds it together – better than anyone else – Out There. Spacibo Unz rev.

  29. Thirdeye says:
    @Colin Wright

    In essence, Russia practices textbook foreign policy realism – an unsentimental balancing of interests to give all parties a positive stake in the negotiated outcome. Russia has more robust options over Syria through considering the interests of Iran and Turkey and Israel than they would if they acted more unilaterally or camped with one party against all others. Restraint in their response to Turkish meddling in Syria was difficult to understand in 2015, but their strengthened ties with Turkey have presented a real conundrum for the US, putting Turkey in a maverick position within NATO while increasing the economic importance of Russia and Turkey to the EU through the southern pipeline deal. Likewise, the historical spanking of Poland over their collusion with Nazi Germany over Czechoslovakia and complicity in the slaughter of Jews serves to weaken the Atlantic bloc. Israel and and official Jewry seem to be acting out of greed and spite, but if it weakens the Atlantic bloc why shouldn’t Russia join in?

    • Replies: @Smith
  30. @Priss Factor

    Considering those that control the money system are mostly Jews, it is not a surprise that countries are scared of them, add that with the fact America became a plaything if the Jews a very long time ago.

    Anyone who deviates from the Jewish High Finance system like Gadaffi or Hitler is destroyed.

  31. Alfred says:

    Mr Netanyahu, the Israeli Interim PM, compared Iran with Nazi Germany and said that destruction of Iran today equals liberation of Auschwitz then

    This is hilarious. The Persians liberated the real Jews a multiple number of times. Like many other countries in the Middle East, Iran was a sanctuary for Jews during WW2. The British and Americans refused to take in Jews. It is all well-documented.

    Netanyahu was born in the USA and is a descendant of Khazars – a people from the north of the Caspian sea who were conquered by the Mongols – they surrendered to the Mongols unlike the Slavs. In Persian, the “Caspian Sea” is called “Daray Khazar” (“دریای خزر”) – the sea of Khazars.

    Netanyahu is well-informed. he knows that Israel can be destroyed in a few days. The combination of accurate missiles and a motivated and competent ground force puts Hezbollah at a great advantage. The USA will be unable to supply Israel and their air force would be rendered impotent.

    Should Israel use nuclear weapons against Iran will change nothing of strategic importance. However, it will put an end to the Holocaust fiction. Jews everywhere will be despised. Their hubris will lead to their fall.

    PS

    It may interest our host to know that the two Persian words are swapped about when I publish or when I try to edit and save

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @vot tak
  32. Renoman says:

    The whole Auschwitz thing is a desperate grab for attention by the Jews. They know that the whole World is on to them and they are desperately trying to suck sympathy out of the rubes. We’re not buying it, we know who you are and what you did. We don’t like you and we definitely don’t trust you.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  33. Sam J. says:
    @Felix Keverich

    “…Poles have no sense of honor. You can see it in the behavior of modern Polish politicians, but also among the many (brainwashed) ordinary people. Failing to acknowledge their debt to Russia and the Red Army…”

    Yikes. The USSR invaded Poland. Why should they thank them????

    “…And yes, they did assist in Nazi genocide of the Jews…”

    And why shouldn’t they? It seems the only way to get rid of the psychopathic nation wreckers the Jews is to genocide them. If you can’t get them to leave then that’s the only alternative.

    It’s often exclaimed that getting rid of the Jews is some sort of thing to be ashamed of but if you follow the Jews history it’s the only rational thing anyone can do. They’ve proven for thousands of years to be nothing more than a parasitical menace.

  34. PeterMX says:

    It’s astounding that after the Bolshevik Jews killed an estimated 8 million Ukrainians after first passing laws outlawing Christianity and anti-Semitism (critcism of Jews) that Ukraine now has it’s second Jew in a row as President, not to mention all the other high ranking positions they hold in the government.

    1937 – Josef Goebbels speaks of the atrocites the Jews are carrying out in the USSR

    https://archive.org/details/InTheShadowOfHermesByJuriLina_201803

    Considering everything elose the lying allies have spoken about, including stories of making soap and lamoshades out of Jews, the story of Babi-Yar is very questionable and serious people have raised serious questions about it. One thing is certain, Jews were a major force in the USSR and elsewhere and they announced their intention to destroy Germany immediately after Hitler was elected and they behaved like terrorusts agaist the German army in the USSR, and that is why Jews al over Europe were arrested and quarantined. They led partisan warfare (terrorist activiyty) against Germany. The Americans faced something simiar in Vietnam with the Viet Cong.

    • Thanks: Saggy
  35. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:

    But if the governments of these four countries would carry on with their hostile politics towards Russia, the Russians would be forced to ally with the Jewish power against these heirs of Nazi henchmen.

    In what kind of alternate universe does any of this make sense? Those hostile politics are mostly engineered by Jews and no-one sane will truly ally with them for any purpose anyway.

    Did Shamir forget to have the usual nap before writing this article? These kinds of unmoored flights of fancy are a clear sign of old age dementia.

    • Agree: Saggy
  36. NPleeze says:
    @Felix Keverich

    [Poland] Failing to acknowledge their debt to Russia and the Red Army

    Sure, just like Russia does not acknowledge their debt to Germany and the Wehrmacht, I suppose it’s all in one’s perspective. Maybe Poles think of the many wars in history between Poland and Russia (almost all, while Russia was spilling over its borders, as it has done for centuries to amass land); they think of Stalin’s conquering half of Poland and utterly subjugating its people in 1937; they think of Russification and its cultural genocide; they think of 50 years of occupation; and yes, there are so many thinks to think about!

    But! They should be grateful! The Soviets “liberated” them from the rule of the Nazis – whom the Poles actually preferred, not so much as the Nazis were great, just that Stalin was worse. As to Auschwitz, it is true, the Soviets “liberated” the Jews – but not from a “death camp”, but from a “work camp”, and the Jews returned to their usual occupations of ruling over their Untermenschen neighbors.

    Alas, maybe the Poles do not like being ruled by or living with Jews? Why, I am told it is OK for Americans not to want the US to become Mexico, why should Poles want Poland to become Israel? They see how the Palestinians are treated. This is nothing new in Jew rule. Bulshevik Russia is the archetype – virtually pure Jewish rule. We have countless more examples of Jewish violence and genocide in the “Bible”, particularly Deuteronomy, perhaps the most evil book ever written by man.

  37. But for some reason most Russians cling to these jewish lies. Here is a fascinating article about how the Russian Orthodox church supported Hitler. After the war the Russians turned on their church once again. I say it again, the entire country suffers from Stockholm syndrome. They have been tormented by jews for centuries.

    This was the norm, not the exception. Hitler and National Socialism in general became the de facto official ideology of the 20th century Catacomb church.

    The Ukrainian church was no different. Not to be outdone, this is The Appeal of Bishop Polycarp, Archbishop of Lutsk and Kovel, Administrator of the Autocephalous Orthodox Church in the liberated Ukrainian lands:

    Nearly a year has passed since the glorious German army under the command of the Great Fuehrer crossed the eastern border and began the fight against the terrible enemy of mankind and European-Christian culture – the Muscovite-Jewish communism. During this time, the invincible German army in his crusading expedition to the east has seen huge success.

    He has freed almost all Ukraine from the cruel oppressor of our Ukrainian people. But the titanic struggle between two worlds still continues. In this struggle we all must not stand aside. Rescued from communist slavery, we should make every effort to help to ensure the defeat of the enemy.

    As the heroic German Army destroys the enemy at the front, we must, together with the German people, keep our work at the rear. This requires the labor of thousands of workers both in agriculture and in the factories. Our sacred duty and the Ukrainian people all require increased work.

    Therefore, obey the call of the German authorities before leaving to work in Germany, the Ukrainian people must be a part of this, considering it a sacred duty and honor for a worker to give his all to this heavy labor. For this I call my flock, and all honest clergy. I also ask the Germans to take good care of their Ukrainian allies. The Ukrainian peasantry and working class, be conscious of what his intense work, at home and in Germany, means. These great historical times will contribute to a better nation.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
    , @GMC
    , @Miro23
  38. Smith says:
    @Thirdeye

    Because it strengthens the Holocaust myth and again gives jew victimhood, it’s basically sucking jews dick to own Poland.

    What’s the point of weakening the Atlantic bloc when you are still carrying water for jews either ways?

    P.S. The face Bibi gives Putang is fucking priceless.

    OH LOOK MY FAVORITE KIKE! (Putang has jewish ancestry).

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
    , @Thirdeye
  39. @Renoman

    Guest list supplied by Epstein.

  40. PeterMX says:

    What Happened at Babi Yar? Fact vs. Myth, BY Michael Nikiforuk

    “Using air photos and wartime newspapers, Ukrainian writer MICHAEL NIKIFORUK attacks a few myths about a wartime atrocity.”

    “THE MEMORY of the “massacre” of Jews at Babi Yar is painful to all politicians. But evidence shows it never happened. Aerial reconnaissance photos taken before and during World War II show mass graves of victims of the Soviet Cheka/NKVD, but an absence of Jewish mass burials.”

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html

    • Replies: @Saggy
  41. refl says:
    @Anon

    Why is a Jew openly instigating for the destruction of an entire nation?

    This seems counter the the Jewish dindunuffin schtick.

    That is no problem. As the Zionists are confident to keep control of the narrative, they can erase that awkward little detail in time. Who – apart from the fringes of the internet – today dares to mention that some entity calling itself Judea declared war on Germany when Hitler was in power for less then two months? The same Hitler who thought that he had endeared himself to the Zionists for driving the Jews out of Europe and into their arms?

  42. Robjil says:
    @Saggy

    Here is the real deal about that law in Russia.

    https://russia-insider.com/en/history/holohoax-denial-not-illegal-russia-contrary-many-news-reports/ri27711

    “Furthermore, the nature of this law is completely different from how it was presented by most writers in the west. It was never a “Holocaust denial” law. The condemnation of “Putin” on this, as always, is based on rumor. It was Medvedev’s project, not Putin’s and, in addition, it wasn’t aimed at the Jews at all. It was a patriotic law – of a sort. Its condemnation in the west proves that.”

  43. @Ship Track

    Catacomb church is a tiny sect; the Russian Orthodox Church supported Russian military effort. Stalin went a long way towards the church wishes.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  44. padre says:
    @German_reader

    If this neo- soviet propaganda, then you must be neo-nazi?

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @byrresheim
  45. Anonymous[157] • Disclaimer says:

    I find all these different Slavic nationalisms highly confusing, if you support one it normally means hating the others. Lots of right wing Westerners back Poland, but the Poles seem to hate everyone and think everyone has wronged them so it’s hardly compatible with white ethnic nationalism is it?

  46. …could compete with Davos…high and mighty gentlemen…President of…King of…Prince of…Grand Duke of…Crown Prince of…Vice President of…

    These titles show clearly that the publicity event was entirely ceremonial. Unlike Macron and Putin, most of the cited attendees are not key decision makers in their respective countries. Since Macron is very unpopular in France, that leaves Putin, by default, as the most important guest. Obviously the key leaders – those who set policy – went to Davos instead. Except perhaps in Israel, focus on the World Economic Forum was not distracted, much less upstaged, by the event in Jerusalem.

    If Ukraine and Poland, as well as Lithuania and Latvia were to stop their anti-Russian policies in conjunction with NATO and the US Deep State, the Russians would forget their fathers’ crimes.

    The policies of Poland and Lithuania, in conjunction with NATO, are justified because Russia is still illegally occupying the territory of Kaliningrad Oblast / Königsberg and thereby continues to maintain its odious Stalinist legacy. If Russia were to finally vacate this territory entirely, then Poland and Lithuania would no longer share a hostile border with Russia; ongoing tensions would recede and Russian relations could improve in the Baltic region, also with Estonia, Sweden, and Finland.

    • Troll: FB
    • Replies: @refl
  47. Truth3 says:

    Jews are the self avowed enemies of mankind, and it permeates every element of their being.

    If they were the majority on the planet, they would wipe out every other person, save a few phenomenally attractive blonde virgins, to despoil and convert to Judaism.

    Their Samson Option shows what they think of non-Jews.

    It’s time for the rest of mankind to realize these things, and quarantine this parasitic threat.

    9/11 emboldened these evildoers, they got away with the greatest false flag in history. When a nuclear bomb explodes in a US port city, wiping out 500,000 plus, and is blamed on Iran, so that the US destroys that innocent country, you all should know that Israeli false flag provocations only escalate.

    Wake the Hell up America.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  48. BuelahMan says:

    The past is the past except that it is all a jewish lie that the jew wants us to forget.

    Funny how that lie gets minimized by jews.

  49. Israel Shamir writes:

    “Israelis hate to give some thing for free; it is a phobia, this fear to act a sucker.”

    Indeed, truer words were never spoken.

    The actual term the Israelis use (frequently) is a “freier”, and it is quite an important part of their culture to NEVER be seen as a “freier” (sucker.)

    So much so, that the front page of the Los Angeles Times ran this story decades ago, but it is as fresh and pertinent today, as it was back then, and maybe more so:

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-25-mn-16208-story.html

    • Agree: Miro23
  50. Jake says:
    @anaccount

    That is true only if it is also true that England has not been an independent state since the Jewish bankers, brought in by archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, gained something very close to veto power over most areas of UK imperialism and domestic policy in regard to the fringes of the British Isles. That was no later than the mid-18th century and more likely occurred with the ‘Glorious Revolution’ that placed William of Orange on the throne in 1688.

    That being true, then there must be something about WASP culture that guarantees Jews to amass power.

    • Agree: Old and grumpy
    • Replies: @FvS
  51. Zionazis are ectoparasites, not symbiotes or commensals. They exist to live off the host organism. They do no more favours for it than a public louse or a flea or a bedbug does for the host whose blood it drinks. If removed, such a parasite immediately attempts to return to the host body. If the host weakens, the parasite sucks out as much as it can before the host dies. As soon as the host dies and its blood ceases to flow, the parasite immediately abandons it in search of a new host. At no point does it show the slightest concern for the welfare of the host, even to the extent of wanting to keep it alive for the parasite’s own benefit (like a tapeworm or a liver fluke would). As such there is absolutely no point expecting gratitude from a zionazi, or any quid pro quo, come to that. If Putin wants to support Zionistan against Ukranazistan, that’s his lookout, but it will bring him exactly as much benefit as taking sides in a fight between a tyrannosaurus and a triceratops, that is, none at all.

  52. Realist says:
    @Colin Wright

    No…but Israel can be used. Russia can give Israel what she wants, and Israel can make the US give Russia what she wants.

    That is nonsense. Israel is playing Russia.

  53. Realist says:
    @Sherlockohms

    Sure hope this a case of Putin keeping his “enemies closer”. In my opinion, Israel (and especially Netanyahu) is not to be trusted.

    In war one should keep allies closer and kill enemies.

  54. Realist says:

    The picture of Putin and Netanyahu is classic spider/fly meeting.

  55. @Renoman

    And to think people would have not even doubted the veracity of the Holocaust legend if the Jews hadn’t weaponise it for their own purpose.

  56. vot tak says:
    @Alfred

    “Netanyahu was born in the USA”

    No, he wasn’t.

    “Born: October 21, 1949 (age 70 years), Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel”

    • Thanks: Alfred
  57. Dear Mr. Israel,

    Cannot find reports on Vatican representation at the 70th anniversary of the Auschwitz camp “liberation.”

    You are likely aware how Pope Pious XII was near criminalized for his failure to do more to save Jews.

    Apparently, Pope Francis not there 🇮🇱 during this particular past week’s commemoration. Nonetheless, am assuming, while ministering under-the-thumb of clergy sex abuse crimes & albeit western Jewish Corporate Media’s focal point, the Church of Rome Vatican HQ’s was adequately represented. Thank you, Shamir.

    P.S.: Am not positive, but I think V.P. Pence was Catholic prior to his ambitious awakening to become a Zionist Evangelist.

  58. So basically, the US and Russia are in a pissing match over who’s more subservient to Organized Jewry? (And of course the Poles are chiming in with their usual cluelessness.)

    • Replies: @Belchazar
  59. @NPleeze

    I am told it is OK for Americans not to want the US to become Mexico

    If Americans don’t want to become Mexico they can do something about it. Or could have done something about it.

    Kudos to Poland for staying away from this exercise in Israeli propaganda. But Putin has to play that game of the great statesman. He even upstaged Trump by turning up himself.

    Anyway, considering everything, something big is brewing, and knowing who’s plotting it isn’t anything good.

  60. @Sherlockohms

    Keeping enemies close is fine and wise. Humiliating yourself is something quite different. Either Russia is in a much weaker position than it seems, or Putin is reading from the same script as Trump. I hope the former, but I am really not so sure anymore.

  61. Strange how when Auschwitz was ‘liberated’ by the Soviets many of the inmates fled with their German captors.

  62. @Realist

    I agree. Russia will never get anything from the zionazi pseudostate. Remember that even the zionazi protector and paymaster Amerikastan got nothing from it except the bombing of the USS Liberty, and, possibly, 9/11.

    • Replies: @Realist
  63. @The_seventh_shape

    If by “fled” you mean “force marched through the snow at gunpoint and shot if they dropped from exhaustion,” you are totally correct.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  64. vot tak says:

    Listening to Mike Pence’s history, you might think it wasn’t Soviets but Americans who liberated Auschwitz

    https://www.rt.com/news/479142-pence-auschwitz-erasing-history/

    “Speaking at the World Holocaust Forum in Israel on Thursday, Pence said that it was “soldiers” who opened the gates of Auschwitz on January 27, 1945. Which soldiers? Pence does not say, whether accidentally or on purpose.

    Pence’s omission became much more glaring a few moments later, when he honored the memory of “all the Allied forces, including more than two million American soldiers, who left hearth and home, suffered appalling casualties, and freed a continent from the grip of tyranny.”

    Pence ended his speech by praising the US alliance with Israel and urging the world to “stand strong against the Islamic Republic of Iran” as “the one government in the world that denies the Holocaust as a matter of state policy and threatens to wipe Israel off the map.”

    In other words, pence used the forum to attack Iran, like his massa, netanyahoo did.

    “Meanwhile, at the same event, Russian President Vladimir Putin denounced the use of the Holocaust in present-day political disputes and proposed a summit of the five permanent UN Security Council members – representing the nations principally responsible for defeating Hitler and establishing the post-war world order – to address the challenges of the world today and “demonstrate our common commitment to the spirit of allied relations, historical memory and the lofty ideals and values for which our predecessors, our grandfathers and fathers fought shoulder to shoulder.”

    How many here are able to spot the difference?

  65. @Parfois1

    Your pedantry is always amusing, please keep it up.

  66. vot tak says:

    Putin returns fallen cap to member of Palestinian honor guard during Bethlehem visit (VIDEO)

    https://www.rt.com/news/479112-putin-palestine-honor-guard/

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Alfred
  67. @israel shamir

    Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson makes it pretty clear in the article, and in his book, that Stalin murdered all the priests and then appointed a few patsies to construct a potemkin church for useful idiots who still try to defend this swine.

    According to KGB archives opened only under Yeltsin, the Stalinist Jews murdered over 106,000 priests from 1937 to 1938 alone. The church had been reduced to nothing, with four frightened bishops and a few parishes opened only for showing foreign visitors. This is what Sergius called the “revival” of the Russian church. Stalin’s persecution of the church was a vicious as his predecessors as well as his successors.

    Hitler used this persecution to mobilize the Russians and Orthodox around him. Stalin’s clumsy attempt to recreate a “Potemkin village” church in 1944 fooled only the intellectuals. The irony of Stalin’s attempt to pose as the defender of “Christian civilization” was equaled only by the west’s immediate acceptance of it. That propaganda continues to have adherents in the west today. In most of Europe, denying it often ends in a prison term.

    Really all you have to know about Stalin and his apologists is how they murdered millions of Russian soldiers even after the “red army” had raped and murdered millions all across eastern Europe and Germany and declared victory. For anyone to claim that the Church supported Stalin is laughable.

  68. Sir, mentioning Stepan Bandera’s real and alleged misdeeds during the war without taking into account that he spent most of the war imprisoned in a German concentration camp needlessly opens your argument to criticism.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @israel shamir
  69. Zionist/bolsheviks murdered some 60 million Russians under communist rule and not a word is heard about this holocaust, because the zionist/bolsheviks were the perpetrators.

    As long as the zionists control the central banks of the world there will be no freedom in the world, for their control of the money , controls us all.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @AnonFromTN
  70. Z-man says:

    Putin Da!!
    But beware the POWER of the Cabal.
    Zionism/Israel is the problem, Jesus thru Palestine is the solution. But who knows, maybe those heretic crazy zealot Christian Zionists might have a point.

  71. MarcNiet says:

    Poland deserves this. If the country had accepted the generous and just German proposal in 39, none of this would have happened.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  72. Z-man says:
    @Desert Fox

    Goldman Sachs, the ‘Vampire Squid‘. Hail Matt Taibbi and Tucker Carlson who just had a scathing commentary last night on their hypocrisy & predatory practices.

  73. Some people on Planet Earth operate by way of Deception. Satan has a PhD in Deception. He and his cronies, the one’s that sell their souls for the benefits and enjoyments of their temporary life on this planet Earth, are taking a lot of dumbed down sheeples to their slaughter house.

  74. Saggy says: • Website
    @PeterMX

    Mass Graves at Vinnitsa / Poems at Babi Yar
    http://www.holohoax101.org/201/

    “Wild grasses rustle over Babi Yar,
    The trees look sternly, as if passing judgement.
    Here, silently, all screams, and, hat in hand,
    I feel my hair changing shade to gray.

    And I myself, like one long soundless scream
    Above the thousands of thousands interred,
    I’m every old man executed here,
    As I am every child murdered here.”

    Yevtusheko’s famous poem refers to ‘the thousands of thousands interred’, but in fact there are no bodies interred at Babi Yar. The mass grave shown in the photo is in Vinnitsa, Ukraine. There are no poems about Vinnitsa.

    In the midst of WW II, the Nazis discovered mass graves in Vinnitsa, Ukraine. In the summer of 1943 they invited an international team of forensic experts, including pathologists from Belgium, France, Netherlands, and Sweden, to examine the bodies and to conduct autopsies. They exhumed 9000+ bodies. Over 600 were identified. For a full account see https://web.archive.org/web/20110101220355/http://www.davidduke.com/general/hidden-history-the-genocide-at-vinnitsa_14911.html

    Babi Yar is a ravine just outside of Kiev, Ukraine, where the Nazis are alleged to have massacred and buried, according to the source, from 30,000 to 100,000 Jews. There are no mass graves at Babi Yar. There have been no excavations. There is not a shred of physical evidence of a massacre at Babi Yar. According to the holohoax, in the summer of 1943, concurrent with the international delegations at Vinnitsa not 100 miles away, the Nazis used Jewish prisoners to dig up the bodies at Babi Yar, cremate them on grates made from headstones from a nearby Jewish cemetary, and scatter the ashes in nearby farmland. Not a trace of the bodies, no bullets, no artifacts of any type, remain as evidence of the bodies, graves, or cremation. Since there are no graves there have been no excavations. Compare the evidence of the real massacre at Vinnitsa, perpetrated by the Soviet NVKD and investigated by the Germans and an international team of experts, with the non-existent evidence of the hoax massacre at Babi Yar, investigated by no one.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @PeterMX
  75. Arnieus says:
    @Felix Keverich

    (brainwashed) ordinary people. Failing to acknowledge their debt to Russia and the Red Army

    Maybe they remember that Russia invaded Poland at the same time Germany did.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
    , @AnonFromTN
  76. There is no moral difference whatsoever between what Israel has done to the Palestinians and what the Germans allegedly did to the Jews.

    Jews must be reminded of this every time “the holocaust” is mentioned.

  77. @Skeptikal

    I find that Shamir’s writing is uncharacteristically unclear in this piece.
    The tenses are all screwed up and many sentences just don’t make sense.

    I paid heed to your remark and had the text edited – so now you can read it and hopefully find the tenses agree))

  78. @German_reader

    Don’t know why Shamir has become a Poland hater and Putin’s # 1 arse-kisser but there must be some quid pro quo … maybe he is into religious SM and has been promised a whipping by orthodox priests or perhaps he likes being peed on by faux blonde Russian hookers in a fancy hotel or worse maybe into something real sinister… but whatever it’s, it’s so transparent that no one in right mind is buying the crap!

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  79. @eah

    I understand that you want to discuss this topic, but it is not what we discuss today. For sure, sooner or later this subject will come up for a discussion, but today it is off-topic.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
    • LOL: eah
    • Troll: L.K
  80. @Arnieus

    It is possible to view the event in totally different light: not that “Russia invaded Poland”, but Russia liberated Western Ukraine and Western Belarus illegally invaded and occupied by Pilsudski’s Poland in 1920. Indeed these lands remained incorporated in the Ukraine and Belarus.
    Not only that was legitimate – the local people were happy to be freed from the Polish occupation. It is well known that Poles were awful to Ukrainians and Jews in the Eastern Kresy.
    I do not insist on this reading, just remember that it is a possible one.

    • Agree: Felix Keverich
    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @FB
  81. @Saggy

    Recommend the book The Good Old Days by three German researchers using government records, there were Jews killed, but not 6 million, and Germans of all faiths and gypsies and others were among the ones killed.

    The book can be had on amazon.com.

    • Replies: @Saggy
    , @Z-man
    , @Wally
  82. @PeterMX

    Babi Yar? Is that’s where they reported the massacre of 35 000 Jews on the edge of a huge trench they dug themselves? I read somewhere about the area being thoroughly searched and scanned and radared the other day, and they found that mass grave…of 46 persons! And can somebody please inform this ignoramus about the “liberation of Auswitz”? I was under the impression the Germans were running for their lives before the arrival of the Red Army of the Bolshevic Jewish Communists. Some prisoners even chose to run with them, the so-called “death marches”. Then add the first photographs taken of the inmates found in those “death camps”; well-fed, laughing, coquettish girls begging favours off the Yankee soldiery… If the Germans were running, surely the Yanks/Ruskies/English/Gabriel arrived at abandoned camps, containing only those too weak or trusting to have run away. They never “broke open” those gates, they locked them, put up better wire fencing and starved the inmates for months before shipping them back to where they said they belonged.
    That Bolshevic thing is also the only excuse I can find for Putin: the man is patriotic to a fault, and admitting to but one holoco$t lie will expose Russia’s role in the biggest fraud in human history, but in the end, the Bolshevists were purely Zionist, which means that the biggest crimes of the War were Jewish crimes.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  83. @PeterMX

    The word “Ukrainian” translates as “a glutton for punishment” into modern English.

  84. GMC says:
    @Ship Track

    I can certainly see the Ukraine folks that have been done in by the Bolsheviks during the 20s & 30s, , taking sides of the German Army that didn’t destroy their villages. It would be normal , not to hate those that invaded and didn’t destroy. The history that the Chka in Ukraine were 80% Zionists and were murdering MFers – if my history is correct. – would make it easy for the western Ukrainians to take a stand against their Soviet government. Did the Banderas Army get out of hand , go crazy and started to act just like the Chka did – and couldn’t stop itself? How many normal jew neighbors and normal Ukrainian or Russian neighbors – got caught up in the killing – and got sacrificed – from what happens in Wars ? I think so, and this makes up for a very hard situation to debate – in 2020.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  85. @Smith

    The image is priceless not for the reason you cite but rather for this…

    Netanyahu: Look at my bitch!

    Putin: Are you ready for another felatio?

    • Replies: @anon
  86. Russia can have Israel. The geopolitical game would then get very interesting. Perhaps with the new super duper alliance, we Americans could finally get of all these dumb wars? Unfortunately I don’t think Putin is a fool.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  87. @GMC

    “How many normal jew neighbors and normal Ukrainian or Russian neighbors – got caught up in the killing – and got sacrificed”

    How many Sudeten and Danube Germans were massacred by Tito’s god hating communist terrorists? Was their death any less brutal than Ukrainian communist Jews caught by Bandera?

    It is always the same with the Jews, they project their worst traits, like blood sacrifice and torture, back onto Christians. They are doing it to this day.

    Yet so many Russians love their seat on the kvetch-express. Ignorant Russian goyim are supporting the Jewish lies far more than Polish ones. Russians still suffer from Stockholm syndrome after nearly a century of Jewish genocide.

    • Replies: @Karel
  88. PeterMX says:
    @Saggy

    Thanks. I was not aware of the story about Vinnitsa. Interesting.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  89. anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Really No Shit

    Churchill did better “ You know, you are our master.If you ask us to fight we will fight like a tiger “- Churchill to Weizmann ,in front of James Rothschilds ,Leo Amery,Clement Attlee 8th June 1937

    Page 121 in Churchill and the Jews by Martin Gilbert

    He was against the partition . Churchill made it clear he was for the entire area for Jews. Partition to Churchill was appeasement of Arab . Like Trump he had a son in law who was Jewish .

  90. @Old and grumpy

    Putin met with the Palestinians after the meeting with the Israelis and so in my opinion he has not sold out to the zionists and Russia is fighting the Israeli and ZUS terrorist proxies AL CIADA aka ISIS in Syria.

    There is an interesting picture of Putin reviewing the Palestinian honor guard on sputnik.com.

    • Replies: @KA
  91. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Both versions are true.

    Being an enemy of the fiendish Nazis did in no way mean that the nightmarish red army would spare you.

    There are literally millions of horrible reasons why eastern Europeans like Russians a lot less than Russians would like to be liked.

  92. anon[234] • Disclaimer says:

    On the topic of his participation in the “Fighting Antisemitism” international forum, it deserves mentioning that the official Kremlin website quotes President Putin as having had the following exchange with present Oksana Boyko on 11 June, 2013:

    “Vladimir Putin: A response to your question could take hours. It’s so complex. I will try to be as concise as possible. First, I have repeatedly voiced Russia’s official stance – Iran has the right for a peaceful nuclear program and it cannot be singled out for discrimination. Second, we need to be aware that Iran is located in a very challenging region. I have told our Iranian partners about that. That’s why Iranian threats made towards neighbouring countries, in particular Israel, threats that Israel can be destroyed, are absolutely unacceptable. This is counterproductive.

    Oksana BOYKO: This is not a proper quote of the Iranian president.

    Vladimir Putin: It doesn’t quite matter whether it’s a proper quote or not. It means it’s best to avoid a wording that could be improperly quoted or could be interpreted differently. That’s why the focus on Iran does have a reason behind it.”
    Global Research

    Putin kept mum to Netanhyus demands for annihilation of Iran.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  93. melpol says:

    Putin is attempting to make Israel a scientific laboratory. Israel will allow Russian scientists to make an exhaustive study of Jewish brains and bodies. Nowhere is that available as in Jew clustered Israel. Studying the essence of Jewish achievements and injecting the results into the bloodstream of low IQ Russians is Putin’s dream.

  94. @eah

    It’s amusing: people who think the Germans carried out Katyn would have us believe that they incinerated the remains of millions of Jews (such that lack of evidence is proof of guilt), yet they couldn’t be bothered with similarly disposing of 20K Polish officers (indeed, brought in outside observers to have a look).

    Yeah, makes perfect sense.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
    , @utu
  95. @anon

    That’s a pretty damning exchange, it can’t be denied.

  96. KA says:
    @Desert Fox

    Skirmishes reported between Russian and US troops in northeastern Syria: Al-Mayadeen
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-and-us-troops-clash-in-northeastern-syria-report/

    It is clear that Russia will fight US in ME to gain more foothold influences and more power at the expense of USA but not at the expense of Israel. Given this situation it will be our worth a while to look into the Zionst approach to Czar , Sultan kaiser and British in 1900+ for help to establish Israel at the promises of making that particular country agreeing to it great militarily and financially.

    Israeli opposition to Iran will be as transient as to Saudi and UAE if Iran agreed to Israeli concern which is organic because it never stops growing and growing .

    In this situation it will be better for humanity to accept Israel as the “master” as it seems Churchill did from a post above and let Israel allocate the world’s local resources to US Russia to Saudi to Iran, to Pakistan to India . China will not agree but the not soldiers from USA Russia India Iran Pakistan can work diligently to force China .

    Common people won’t get killed murdered or lose the identity at least . Sounds ludicrous . But better than this internecine fights where non Jewish couldn’t come to some kind of co existence . Sad and insulting but better than the war .

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  97. Saggy says: • Website
    @Desert Fox

    there were Jews killed,

    BS. Holohoax lite. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, not one ! The ‘plan to exterminate the Jews’, the ‘gas chambers’, and the ‘six million’ are at complete 100% hoax. The same number of Jews were killed in the German camps as the number of Japs killed in the American camps for being Japs. Repeating a lie endlessly does not make it true.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  98. Z-man says:
    @Desert Fox

    The great WW II era journalist/writer Douglas Reed who was labled a ‘virulent anti Semite’ after he became critical of Zionism and who was shunned by ‘the powers that be‘ after that and lived his last years almost forgotten in ‘exile’ in South Africa wrote that ‘the Jews died in proportion to the rest of the occupied populations’ which would put the number at no more than half a million. Even if you double that number you don’t get anywhere near the magic 6 million.
    Hail Douglas Reed.

  99. cici says:

    when did the european jews become or believe themselves to be semites? did they consider themselves as european peoples or semites before departing europe after world war 2?

  100. Well, Putin got a lot of PR value out of this visit and his visit to Abbas. First, he put Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia into a very uncomfortable position. Ukrainian clown of a president looked particularly foolish: he came to Jerusalem, but not to Yad Vashem, thus losing points with both Banderites and Israelis. Quite an achievement, that. Looks like Ukrainian PM was right that there is only fog and emptiness in clown’s head.

    Bibi also got a lot of PR out of that event. Israel built a memorial to the victims of Leningrad blockade by Nazis. One has to remember that Bibi won’t even fart without fist calculating whether it’s profitable. Knowing that Putin’s brother perished in this blockade, he confidently assumed that Putin cannot refuse to participate in the inauguration ceremony of this monument, even though it ostensibly commemorates only Jewish victims, which Putin’s brother was not. Bibi’s calculations proved correct. I am sure he’d prefer a different Putin’s speech, but Putin isn’t Trump, so Bibi can’t tell Putin what to say.

    Putin’s visit to Abbas, and his unplanned picking up fallen Palestinian guard’s cap and handing it back to him, won him a lot of points in the eyes of the Arabs and other Muslims. This Putin’s action appeared perfectly natural, instinctive, in sharp contrast to Bibi, whose every move, big and small, is always pre-calculated.

    Social media make a lot of hay out of the fact that Putin did not shake hands with Pence, but shook hands with Macron. That, I think, was a calculated slight on Putin’s part. Funnily, British prince Charles also skipped handshake with Pence, maybe deliberately, maybe not.

    Israel (at least Bibi) is hedging its bets with a view of surviving inevitable downfall of the Empire. It clearly sees Russia as the best bet. Only future will tell whether they are right. The fact that 20-25% of current Israeli population came from the former USSR aids them.

    Basically, Putin and Yahu got the most brownie points from this event. Putin is always cautious and tries to avoid making enemies unnecessarily, whereas Yahu is desperately trying to avoid well deserved jail time.

    Putin obviously wants to strengthen Russian position in the ME, where it positions itself to replace the waning Empire. Turkish sultan is attempting the same thing, but he is likely too dumb to play his cards well enough. Besides, his hand is much weaker. I think even Yahu understands that Russia won’t abandon Iran, so he asks for smaller kudos. In about six months we’ll see what Putin and Russia, as well as Bibi and Israel, get out of all this.

    • Thanks: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  101. @israel shamir

    While this is a possible reading, the British and French guarantee would have applied as well if it had had any other function than to serve as a tripwire.

    It is always useful to remember that Poland was seen to have the fourth or fifth strongest military on the continent — before it was put to the test.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  102. @Saggy

    I believe Jews were killed, however not 6 million and that others were killed including Germans in the concentration camps, take a look at the book The Good Old Days, it is documented front to back.

    As I said before, some 60 million Russian were murdered by the jewish communists/bolsheviks and no one says a thing about this.

  103. @Arnieus

    Maybe they remember that Russia invaded Poland at the same time Germany did.

    In fact, the USSR entered what was Poland at the time (vast tracks of land occupied by Poland in 1920, where Poles were a minority) more than two weeks after Germany, when Polish government “heroically” ran away. Maybe we live in post-truth times, but truth still matters.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @Avery
    , @Parfois1
  104. Wally says:
    @Desert Fox

    Seriously?
    There are no “government records” shown in that laughable book. There no humans remains that are alleged. But you took the bait. Curious

    The ‘Good Old Days’ is demolished here:

    The Razor and the Ring‘, By John Weir: http://codoh.com/library/document/364
    and:
    Irrefutable Response’ Falls Flat: By John Weir: https://codoh.com/library/document/2590/
    and:
    much more: https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=good+old+days

  105. @Beefcake the Mighty

    “they couldn’t be bothered with similarly disposing of 20K Polish officers (indeed, brought in outside observers to have a look).”

    Great point! Katyn was one of those nagging historical facts that they can’t sweep under the carpet. Like gum on your shoe. But its not like there are not enough other examples of massive Hebraic fraud that they use to divide and murder. Here are some examples:

    Katayusha rocket attack kills US contractor
    Douma chemical weapons attack
    Remember the Maine to hell with Spain
    Lusitania
    Pearl Harbor
    Gulf of Tonkin incident
    WMD in Iraq, episodes I, II and III
    Gaddafi murdering freedom fighters
    Fort Sumter
    Lexington
    Holofraud

    The list is not nearly as long as the list of names of jewish terrorists, but they are closely related.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  106. @KA

    The ZUS is fighting Israels wars in the middle east for the benefit of Israels greater Israel agenda, while Russia is fighting to save Syria and to defeat the terrorists that the ZUS and Israel and ZBritain created ie AL CIADA aka ISIS aka Daesh and all offshoots there of, and Russia realizes that if these terrorist prevail Iran and then Russia is next, and Putin said that on a recent tour of Russian troops in Syria.

    In my opinion the worst thing that could be done would to end up with zionists in control of the world.

  107. @byrresheim

    Bandera spent time in VIP camp with much milder conditions, not where normal people were kept by the Nazis. Same as Solzhenitsyn spent his time in VIP camp, not where normal Stalin’s prisoners were kept. That tells you all you need to know about both.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  108. @padre

    The way you put it, you make Neo-Nazi sound like a compliment.

    • Replies: @anon
  109. @byrresheim

    I’ve always suspected that the British were over-optimistic about Polish military prowess after the 1920-21 war with the Soviets, which the Poles bore primary blame for escalating and which they were lucky to have won.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  110. Avery says:
    @Colin Wright

    {… then Israel can make the US make life difficult for Russia.}

    For example?

    How much more difficult can US make it for RF, short of outright war?
    Sanctions up the wazoo, interfering with RF gas lines thru Europe, pressuring EU not to buy Russian gas, pressuring EU to continue the sanctions, kidnapping (Saker’s term) of Russian citizens and jailing them on bogus charges, relentless anti-Russian propaganda, …….

    Yeah, maybe US can convince EU and everybody else to block RF from SWIFT: I am surprised they haven’t done it already. But Russia will find a way to circumvent that too. So, again what can US do to RF it hasn’t already done.

    Note: I not in the group that thinks Russia should be hostile to Israel – for no reason.
    Putin does what is best for Russia’s long term interests.

  111. @AnonFromTN

    If truth ever had mattered, there would have been, at some point during the last three quarters of a century, a discernible public debate on why the anglo/french guarantee did not apply …

    Did I miss something?
    No?
    Thought so.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  112. refl says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    ???
    If Königsberg was given back to anyone, it would have to be Germany and the question has never arrisen, safe for maybe some fringe lunatics.
    The Germans who have lived there are gone. Sad story, but it’s over.

    With that level of geography you won’t make it to understand the issue.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Karel
  113. Milton says:

    The great Polish “Saint of Auschwitz,” Saint Maximillian Kolbe, once identified the root of the problem that is the true source of our current geopolitical woes: the relationship that persists between Freemasonry and Zionism. In an essay titled, “The Poor Ones” he wrote:

    “Man was redeemed, and Christ founded His Church upon a rock. Some of the Hebrew people recognized Him as the Messiah, but others – among them principally the Pharisees – did not want to recognize Him. Instead, they persecuted His followers and issued numerous laws obliging the Jews to persecute the Christians. These laws, together with stories and appendixes, became their sacred book called The Talmud around the year 500….In this book Christians are called idolaters, worse than Turks, murderers, impure libertines; they are manure, animals in human form, worse than animals, children of the Devil, etc. Catholic priests are called fortune-tellers and bald-headed dunces….the Church is called a house of stupidity and filth; sacred statues, medals and rosaries are called idols. In The Talmud Sundays and holy days of obligation are considered days of perdition….This book teaches, among other things, that a Hebrew can deceive a Christian and steal from him since all the properties of a Christian are – from the text itself – ‘like the desert, the first to take them becomes the owner.’…This book, written in 12 volumes and breathing hatred against Christ, is considered by these Pharisees a sacred book, more important than Sacred Scriptures.”

    In another article, “The Knight of the Immaculate,” Kolbe continued:

    “Freemasons, you who recently during the Bucharest Congress were pleased by the fact that Masonry is growing stronger everywhere, reflect well and answer sincerely: Is it not better to serve the Creator with interior peace rather than to obey the orders of those who hate you? And you, small squadron of Hebrews, the ‘learned elders of Zion,’ who have already consciously provoked so many misfortunes and are preparing yet others, to you I direct this question: What advantage will you gain? A huge accumulation of gold, pleasures, diversions and power, but none of this makes man happy. And if still it should give some happiness, how long will it last? Ten years perhaps, or twenty. I ask you, Hebrew leaders, you who have let yourselves be seduced by Satan, the enemy of humanity, would it not be better for you also to return sincerely to God?”

    I know Trump is a Freemason. But now I am starting to think that Putin is also a Freemason. If so, Russia is fucked.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  114. @Desert Fox

    An “F” in elementary school math is a terrible thing to live with. Still, try to wrap your head around this simple calculation: 60 million dead bodies, even assuming an average weight of just 50 kg, means 3 million tons of remains. This is ten times more than expected remains of alleged 6 million holocaust victims would be. You can’t hide that much material. Where are they?

  115. utu says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Prior to the discovery of Katyn in 1943. Germans were bringing outside observers (Red Cross) already in 1941 when they discovered mass graves and many unburied corpses of people massacred by NKVD and Red Army in the first days after the attack on the USSR in June 22, 1941.

    NKVD prisoner massacres
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres

    “Estimates of the death toll vary between locations; nearly 9,000 in the Ukrainian SSR,[1] 20,000–30,000 in eastern Poland (now part of Western Ukraine),[2] with the total number reaching approximately 100,000 victims of extrajudicial executions in the span of a few weeks”

    Germans were engaged in burials of prisoners massacred by NKVD and in exhumations of mass graves that NKVD left behind. Photographs of these events were taken. Strangely some of them were used in the (in-)famous exhibition on Wehrmacht crimes in Germany showing Wehrmacht officers next to mass graves attributing the victims to German crimes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmachtsausstellung

    Polish historian (Bogdan Musial) and a Hungarian historian recognized the pictures and the traveling exhibition had to be cancelled and overhauled. There was an investigation and the matter was hush-hush whitewashed. This was happening around the time of Goldhagen’s book offensive in Germany as a part of another push to squeeze more money out of Germany. Can’t be excluded that Israel got one extra submarine for free because of this campaign. Though Goldhagen did not get a tenure in Harvard even though some rich guy funded a special chair just for him. Perhaps this was a part of the deal: you get a submarine but Goldhagen has to go.

  116. Avery says:
    @AnonFromTN

    During the Nazi invasion of Poland, Polish casualties were:
    About 60,000 KIA.
    About 100,000 WIA.

    During Soviet invasion 2 weeks later, Polish casualties were:
    About 5,000 KIA.
    About 20,000 WIA.

    But Polish leaders and people conveniently forget that Nazi invaders killed 10X more Poles during their invasion, than Soviet invaders.

    Poles also remember Katyn: I know you [AnonFromTN] disagree that Soviets did it, but let’s put that aside for a moment. At Katyn about 20,000 military men were killed.
    Nazi Intelligenzaktion rounded up and murdered about 100,000 Polish people, civilians, mostly Polish intelligentsia: priests, teachers, professors, doctors, ……

    But Poland has conveniently developed amnesia about that too, and only remember Katyn.

    • Replies: @utu
  117. anarchyst says:
    @Ship Track

    What about the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on 8 June 1967?

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @Ship Track
  118. @AnonFromTN

    Israel (at least Bibi) is hedging its bets with a view of surviving inevitable downfall of the Empire. It clearly sees Russia as the best bet.

    Israel also has markers on the China square: Israel has signed on to OBOR and Bank Leumi has formal exchange relations with Bank of China https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3726552,00.html

    Israel began planning for the demise of USA as superpower and its replacement by China over 15 years ago; Dennis Ross, who worked deep and high inside US decision making bodies, was charter chairman of Jewry’s (no, not Israel, JEWRY) Jewish People Policy Planning Institute JPPPI. One of JPPPI’s first projects was a study of feasibility of relations between China and Jews/Israel, researched and written by Shlomo Solomon Wald.
    http://jppi.org.il/uploads/China%20and%20the%20Jewish%20People.pdf

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Bill P
  119. @byrresheim

    Anglo/French “guarantee” was a sham. Same as NATO “guarantees”. Still, as they say in the US, there is a sucker born every minute. If there were a competition among losers, Poles would rightfully take the third place, after Kurds and Ukrainians.

  120. anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @byrresheim

    you make Neo-Nazi sound like a compliment.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  121. @AnonFromTN

    Read Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago and Robert Conquest’s Harvest of Sorrow.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
    , @AnonFromTN
  122. utu says:
    @refl

    Königsberg was the first major German city attacked by the Red Army. The atrocities committed by Soviets there were probably the worst.

    “I made my own observations on February 27th, 1945, when I came to Metgethen on official business. When I drove my motorcycle just before the railway-crossing into a gravel-pit, in order to inspect the building there for its usability, I found behind it the corpses of twelve women and six children. All were completely undressed and huddled up in a pile. Most of the children had had their skulls broken with a blunt object or their tiny bodies perforated with innumerable bayonet stabs. The women, mostly older ones between forty and sixty years, had also been killed with knives or bayonets. On all of them black-and-blue marks of beating were clearly visible. – Wiki”

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  123. @SolontoCroesus

    Quite likely. Israel is run by wily bastards who hedge their bets, as well as their hedged bets. Anyone who accepts their game ends up a loser. As Russian joke has it, two Jews sued each other. The prosecutor got three years sentence.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  124. @AnonFromTN

    Remains of war dead are in graves across Europe, not in three or four small, specific locations (which are also closed to proper investigation).

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  125. @anarchyst

    How about the joint attack on the WTC on 911 by Israel and the ZUS government traitors.

  126. utu says:
    @Avery

    Intelligenzaktion and AB-Aktion in Poland occupied by Nazis were coordinated with similar actions in Soviet occupied Poland during Hitler-Stalin honeymoon lasting from 23 August 1939 to 22 June, 1941. During that period similar number of Polish citizens lost their lives in both occupational zones.

    Gestapo–NKVD conferences
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo–NKVD_conferences

    This one is the best known, and took place in Zakopane,[14] starting on 20 February 1940[4] in the villa “Pan Tadeusz”, located at the Droga do Białego street close to the Dolina Białego valley. The German side was represented by Adolf Eichmann and an official by the name of Zimmermann, who later became chief of the Radom District of the General Government territory. The Soviet delegation was headed by Grigoriy Litvinov with—among others—Rita Zimmerman, director of a Kolyma gold mine.[1]

    According to several sources, one of the results of this conference was the German Ausserordentliche Befriedungsaktion (see: German AB Action operation in Poland)

    “In 1940 and the first half of 1941, the Soviets deported a total of more than 1,200,000 Poles in four waves of mass deportations from the Soviet-occupied Polish territories. The first major operation took place on February 10, 1940, with more than 220,000 people sent primarily to far north and east Russia, including Siberia and Khabarovsk Krai. The second wave of 13 April 1940, consisted of 320,000 people sent primarily to Kazakhstan. The third wave of June–July 1940 totaled more than 240,000. The fourth and final wave occurred in June 1941, deporting 300,000. ” – Wiki

  127. @anarchyst

    The Liberty, how could I forget. I apologize.

    Katyn denial is as revulsive to me as the Holofraud could ever be to an Ashkenazi fake jew, but the Liberty and the Ashkenazi attempt to start a nuclear war is far worse.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  128. @AnonFromTN

    Deaths attributed to Communism, much like deaths attributed to Nazis, have been vastly overstated by the West, both events were retconned by the victors to suit an agenda.

    Citing Solzhenitsyn as evidence for muh 60 million deaths is just as ludicrous as citing Elie Wiesel or Anne Frank as evidence of muh 6 million.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  129. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Where is the proof that these people resting in graves did not just succumb to natural causes?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @gott
  130. @utu

    Yet the Russians insist that the crimes of their beloved Red Army could never compare to those of the wicked Banderites. Russians suffer from Stockholm syndrome. They suffered under Jewish mind control for 70 years, and it is also clear that they were disassociated from their motherland and the split into multiple personalities. All under complete yid control.

    By all appearances from Putin’s actions at the holofraud commemoration, the programming is still intact today.

    • Replies: @utu
  131. anarchyst says:
    @Ship Track

    No apology is necessary…

    Normally, on the fiftieth anniversary of any notable historic event, there is almost always a mention of it in the so-called “mainstream media”.

    On the fiftieth anniversary of the deliberate “act of war” committed against the USA with the israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5), there was NOT ONE MENTION of it in ANY media outlet here in the USA.

    Sorta tells you something about who controls the mainstream media, and by inference, the narrative.

  132. @Milton

    Is Putin a freemason ? Yes , he is according to a number of articles . His mentor Boris Yelstsin was Knight of Malta , see “Malta, Masonry & the CIA”espionagehistoryarchive.com :”It’s known that in December 1991, Boris Yeltsin was accorded the rank of Knight of Malta …From times long ago , the Maltese Order has been known as a supporting structure of the international Masonic order .” It is reported that “Putin has connections to the Templar organization Abstergo Industries which helped put his friend , mentor and predecessor Boris Yeltsin in power .” assassinscreed.fandom.com
    facebook.com uniquefreemason:” U.S.President Donald J. Trump , a Knight of Malta, descends from
    Clan MacCleod , the Fairy or Sithe (Sidhe).The Clan of Castle Dunvegan on the Isle of Skye harbored fleeing Knights Templar 700 years ago on his mother’s side & Germanic Teutonic knights on his father’s side .”

    • Replies: @Milton
    , @NPleeze
  133. Karel says:
    @Ship Track

    if you claim
    “It was the united armies of Europe, under Nazi leadership, that prevented the Bolshevic genocide of Europe.” Then I would love to know how it actually happened and what the “united armies” were. Are these just not past dreams of an old nazi boy.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
    , @Karel
  134. Johnwho says:

    Problems at Auswich?
    Bring in yoko ono and the plastic ono band and both sides will surrender.

  135. @Just passing through

    Where is the proof that these people resting in graves did not just succumb to natural causes?

    Where is the proof that these people resting in graves were not German or other non-Jewish civilian victims of Allied firebombing?

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  136. Johnwho says:

    I personally cut off both my ears and filled the canals with rubber cement to stop contemplating suicide.

  137. Skeptikal says:
    @israel shamir

    “I am against historical obsession. Though Banderites were a murderous lot, I [wouldn’t] dig their crimes out now – if they [did] not attack the Ukrainians seeking friendship with Russia. I count Mahler among my friends – though I do not agree with his interpretation of history and with his admiration of Fuehrer, his political position on current issues is correct. I would not bother with any interpretation of history if the person is on the same page regarding actual politics. Am I clear now?”

    Uh, no.
    “Historical *obsession*”? That sounds like a rhetorical flourish designed to cow into embarrassed submission those who actually take seriously attempts to set the historical record straight and prevent ugly distortions such as those currently occurring in the Poland/Holocaust/ dustup. Revisionism goes both ways: toward greater understanding and toward the memory hole.

    I don’t know who Mahler is, so that reference is lost on me. Is he a Banderite?
    I don’t think the essay is about the Fuehrer.
    As for Banderites’ crimes, they certainly do not end with dissing russophiliac Ukrainians.
    Banderites are actually guilty of participating in murderous actions at the Maidan and Odessa and later, in eastern Ukraine. I guess that is OK with you.

    The essay is actually about the “uses of history,” to quote I cannot recall exactly whom at this moment.
    Except, only to deny that history has propagandistic uses. You seem to be oblivious of the uses of history, including those that are deeply dishonest, self-serving, and dangerous.

    “Let history take care of itself. And, by the way let every else whose country is now unjustly being made responsible for WW2 and the historians who don’t buy a steaming heap of childish lies and distortions eat cake.”
    Pfui.

  138. Poles Turn up the Heat, Demand Russia Return Art Looted in WW2

    Bolstered by American aid, the USSR was assured of victory over the Third Reich. As early as February 1943, the Soviets established the Trophy Brigades. Their purpose was to join in the ransacking and share with the Allies the spoils of war.

    Every German home and office, thousands of factories, tens of thousands of cars, millions of captive slaves became a prize of war. Germany’s entire merchant marine and manufacturing base became war booty. The ransacking of Germany reduced the defeated Reich to an empty shell. The allied plunder included the surrender of Poland and a further twenty free nations were handed to Stalin’s Soviet Union.

    The didn’t just steal art.

  139. Karel says:
    @Ship Track

    Thank you for revealing this new discovery
    “How many Sudeten and Danube Germans were massacred by Tito’s god hating communist terrorists?”

    I have never heard that Tito played any role in the “massacres” of Sudetdeutsche but perhaps he just came down for the weekend in 1945 to enjoy the killing.

    It is pretty obvious that all the postwar history textbooks need to be rewritten. I am eternally grateful to you, dear Ship Wreck, for this contribution.

  140. @SolontoCroesus

    I don’t actually believe in the Holocaust narrative, so it could be true, just like the big graves in Russia could belong to those who died in the war. The West most likely retconned both events to suit the current political narrative.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  141. Milton says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Sad to hear that. I had high hopes for Putin.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  142. NPleeze says:
    @vot tak

    Could anyone imagine the Orange ZioNazi even visiting the Palestinians, much less doing something like that?

    Nah, the Orange ZioNazi would rather order someone (he personally is much too cowardly) to bomb that man to death or to put sanctions that kill his family.

    B/c that’s how the ZioNazi Evil Empire rolls.

    • Agree: vot tak
  143. utu says:
    @Ship Track

    “Yet the Russians insist that the crimes of their beloved Red Army could never compare to those of the wicked Banderites.” – Higher standards are expected from organized organized army formations (*) like the Red Army than form the Banderite peasant mobs in Ukraine, yet the Red Army often engaged in atrocities comparable or exceeding those of Ukrainian Banderites.

  144. Karel says:
    @refl

    Good to know that

    “If Königsberg was given back to anyone, it would have to be Germany and the question has never arrisen, safe for maybe some fringe lunatics.”

    Being a fringe lunatic , I am convinced that Konigsberg (Kralovec) should be given back to the Czechs as the swampy town was founded by the Bohemian King Přemysl Otakar II in 1255. You can read about this in the publication bellow

    https://books.google.cz/books?id=cRF-CgAAQBAJ&pg=PT78&lpg=PT78&dq=Konigsberg+otakar+founded&source=bl&ots=MTzsxN8PGw&sig=ACfU3U30kNo_NA_Rp5HL-Lg6-YQU4HxTcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSlfum2J_nAhWB-KQKHc2UBugQ6AEwDnoECBIQAQ#v=onepage&q=Konigsberg%20otakar%20founded&f=false

    Then, I almost cried while reading your complaint.

    “The Germans who have lived there are gone. Sad story, but it’s over.”

    The Czechs, who lived there in 13th century, are also gone after being driven out by rapacious Germans. What a sad story but it is not over yet.

    • Replies: @refl
  145. @Karel

    Operation Barbarossa

    [MORE]

    Axis forces:

    Army Norway
    Finnish Army
    Army of Karelia

    Army Group North[171][170]

    18th Army
    4th Panzer Group
    16th Army
    Air Fleet 1
    Army Group Center[169][170]

    3rd Panzer Group
    9th Army
    4th Army
    2nd Panzer Group
    Air Fleet 2
    Army Group South[168][170]

    6th Army
    1st Panzer Group
    17th Army
    Slovak Expeditionary Force
    Royal Hungarian Army Mobile Corps
    11th Army
    Italian Expeditionary Corps in Russia
    Romanian 3rd Army
    Romanian 4th Army

    Air Fleet 4

    Of course the SS was loaded with foreign volunteers, many Nordic, and the Spanish Azul division played an important role.

    It was truly an alliance against the god hating judeo-bolschevics. The loss of this struggle by the Germans is clearly the direct cause of the ongoing genocide of white Christian civilization, the final chapters of which we are experiencing now. Putin may play lip service to preventing Russia being taken over by the gay disco, but it becomes ever clearer that he is a Zionist stooge.

  146. utu says:

    Why there are no broad allegations against German/Nazi soldiers committing mass rapes while there is plenty of evidence about mass rapes committed by Red Army soldiers? Would the HBDist at the UR like Anatoly Karlin care to explain it? Is it nature or nurture difference?

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  147. FvS says:
    @Jake

    That being true, then there must be something about WASP culture that guarantees Jews to amass power.

    Christianity.

    • Replies: @Belchazar
  148. @A123

    Absolutely – Putin a nose lover just like Trump..
    “A great many awakening people continue to be in thrall to the cult of personality that’s been built around Vladimir Putin. They have passively and uncritically accepted the endless barrage of Putin-worshiping propaganda put out by sellouts in the alternative media, and they have not bothered to look into things for themselves. If you are one of these people, take a moment to set down emotionally-held beliefs and open your mind. Putin rode into power in the aftermath of a series of apartment bombings he arranged during his stint as Director of the FSB…”
    http://www.dutchanarchy.com/vladimir-putin-chabad-lubavitch-mobster-globalist-messiah/

    • Replies: @Herald
  149. anon[804] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin was the only one of the many Forum guests who balanced his visit to the Jews with a visit to the Palestinians.

    Not really. Macron has many muslim french to please at home, so he also met Mamoud Abbas.

  150. @Sherlockohms

    Dumb ass”westerner’s” buying into “Putin Will save us from the globalist” BS. I can’t believe the gullibility of people.

    Proof Putin is a lover of the kosher sausage himself:
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/11/vladimir-putin-chabad-whats-behind-the-russian-presidents-close-relationship-with-an-orthodox-jewish-sect.html

  151. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Polish Operation of the NKVD

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

    ” The Polish Operation of the NKVD (Soviet security service) in 1937–1938 was a mass operation of the NKVD carried out in the Soviet Union against Poles (labeled by the Soviets as “agents”) during the period of the Great Purge. It was ordered by the Politburo of the Communist Party against the so-called “Polish spies” and customarily interpreted by the NKVD officials as relating to ‘absolutely all Poles’. It resulted in the sentencing of 139,835 people, and summary executions of 111,091 Poles.”

    “The top secret NKVD Order No. 00485, titled “On the liquidation of the Polish diversionist and espionage groups and POW units,” was approved on August 9, 1937 by the Party’s Central Committee Politburo, and was signed by Nikolai Yezhov on August 11, 1937.[6] It was distributed to the local subdivisions of the NKVD simultaneously with Yezhov’s thirty-page “secret letter,” explaining what the “Polish operation” was all about. The letter from Yezhov was titled, “On fascist-resurrectionist, spying, diversional, defeationist, and terrorist activity of Polish intelligence in the USSR”.[12] Stalin demanded the NKVD to “keep on digging out and cleaning out this Polish filth.”

  152. @Milton

    Putin is also linked to Trump through Chabad – Lubavitch,see “The Happy-Go-Lucky Jewish group that connects Trump and Putin . ” politico.com

  153. @paranoid goy

    Take a lesson from the Chmielnitsy massacres of the Jews by Cossacks and peasants in the 18th century. For centuries the Jewish commemorations of it claimed massive numbers of Jews killed. It’s a high point in Leon Uris’s “Exodus” of 1958, the greatest killing of Jews ever. But then with the “Holocaust” they had a more delicious story and were quick to stamp out Chmielnitsy. It was Israeli Jews, several I think, who discovered “errors” in the original number and lowered it by about 99 percent. Needed to be quick because they knew the original number was fake and it was better not to wait till Gentiles found out and exposed the Jews as fake. In reality there were vastly more, orders of magnitude more Gentiles than Jews killed in that rebellion. And at least one Jewish town was overrun by the rebels but the Jews there left unharmed. The rebels had not been killing Jews because they were Jews. There was a different reason.

    But if the “Holocaust” had not been so delicious, Chmielnitsky would still have been needed, so revision would not have been allowed.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  154. Agent76 says:

    Jan 23, 2020 Putin: I Call Upon Russia, China, The US, France and Britain To Hold A Historic Meeting

  155. I don’t think it is generally understood the part played by the Baltics, particularly Latvia and Lithuania in the decimation of the Jewish populations in these states. Even the German Waffen SS Units and Einsatzgruppen (death squads) were shocked at the brutality of the indigenous population. If you can bring yourself to look at it there are photographs of the Kovno Garage massacre where the local population used shovels, hammers, and various other clubs to murder their victims by smashing the skulls in, all the while cheered on by crowds of onlookers cheering as though they were watching a local football (soccer) match.

    Suffice it to say that almost the total Jewish population of Lithuania was wiped out.

    • Thanks: FB
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  156. @Just passing through

    yup.

    fantasy: A human chain or passing-of-baton from SanFrancisco to DC to NYC: “I don’t believe the Holocaust narrative, and I will not be silent.”

  157. Herald says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    @A123 is no Putin lover, he and others tirelessly work away from one of the many Hasbara boiler room bunkers. Their general aim here is to increase animosity towards Putin and it seems they may be having some success.

    • Replies: @A123
  158. Maybe ‘Polacks’ aren’t so dumb after all.

  159. @Donald Duck

    Must have been blind, irrational hatred?

  160. The “servile” Gorbachev? That leader managed to thaw out the Cold War almost single handedly. He even proposed abolishing nuclear weapons, but the Americans weren’t interested. If Gorbachev has a flaw, it is in trusting others too much. He certainly shouldn’t have trusted George HW Bush. But without that trust in humanity’s better nature, we may not have made it through the 80s.

  161. Richard Silverstein offered this perspective on the Israel holocaust – with – champagne party

    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2020/01/23/world-holocaust-forum-at-yad-vashem-hijacking-the-shoah-whitewashing-nakba/

    All appearances to the contrary, this is not an official “Israeli” commemoration. Despite the fact that the country’s president is welcoming the dignitaries and Yad VaShem is serving as the host of some of the events, it is a “wholly-owned” production of the Russian Jewish oligarch, Moshe Kantor. He made his fortune stealing government companies which made fertilizer and turning them into a huge conglomerate called Acron Group. He is now worth $2.7-billion according to Forbes.

    In order to protect his investment and fortune, Kantor has become a member of Putin’s mafia “crew.” In the process, he used his wealth to essentially “buy” the loyalty of a number of European Jewish communities on whom he showered gifts through his personal vehicle, the European Jewish Congress. If you’re wondering how a body that was established to be a liaison between EU officialdom and European Jewish communities was hijacked by someone who is not a citizen of a EU nation, the short answer is–bribes disguised as gifts.

    Kantor has bestowed yet another “gift” on Israel by, in effect renting the country to produce an international extravaganza he’s calling World Holocaust Forum. It is, in reality, a one-man vanity project wholly to boost the vanity of Kantor’s patron, Vladimir Putin.

    This puts the event, and Putin’s centrality to it, in a far more understandable light.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  162. FB says: • Website

    Wow…made it through about half the fucking retarded comments…not one intelligent comment…

    How does UNZ attract such a collection of ignoramuses, illiterates and general misanthropes…it is really amazing…

    A great pair of articles by Shamir…I would say he’s found his old mojo from the days when he provided relevant insight into important global currents…a couple of times there he went off focus a little bit, but he pulled everything together…

    Here’s the thing…Putin is a stickler for historical truth [as he is a stickler for international law]…this is what brings Israel and Russia together when reflecting on World War Two…

    Sure the US Hollywood type Jews may have been overplaying the holocaust hand a little, but the basic truth of it cannot be denied…but Israel is a far more sophisticated society than cartoonish American Jewry that have reached elite status…

    Not that I’m giving Israel a pass…a lot of cruel, fucked up folks there that engage in egregious sadism against the powerless…this type of memorializing about WW2 will change nothing of today’s big problem [Israel’s Iron Boot]…

    But life consists of many facets and aspects…it is true that the pissant EU is trying rewrite history into a farce where Russian socialism and psychopathic Nazi fascism are somehow equally to blame…Fuck Germany, Poland, the EU and all of these little fucking pipsqueaks…the only solution may be SARMAT…

    They are taking a lot of liberties with a great nation that saved world civilization…in the words of the London Telegraph after the heroic victory at Stalingrad…when it became clear even to an English schoolboy that their country [and our collective civilization] need worry no longer about the monsters in black uniforms and big guns…

    Here too lousy little Britain is in the same dinky little propaganda paddleboat…the whole of the Eurozone is a piece of fucking trash when it comes to anything having to do with character and truthfulness…And yes, Israel stands HEAD AND SHOULDERS above this scum…true…

    Which brings us right back to Israeli-Russian relations…they are good, but could be better…if only the US would get out of the way…

    Also here is a story from my childhood…when I was a grade schooler, the big guys would incite fights in the church basement between us tykes…later when I became a big guy…I carried on this fine tradition…it was so easy and so entertaining…

    A lot of fucked up people here want to believe so hard that Israel controls the US…they never had the important life lesson of being a cockfighter in a church basement…the cocks don’t transport themselves into the pit…the big guys do that…

    SO HERE IS MY BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL THE RETARDS HERE…

    [I would not be so frustrated had I come across one half way, or even quarter way decent comment out of the seventy or so I plowed through with great consternation…]

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @geokat62
  163. Johan says:

    “Jews seem to have great difficulty empathizing with non-Jews; they always demand separate memorials, and Putin couldn’t force them to do things differently.”

    Haha, it ‘seems’ like a formulation which a parent would tell a child. It is not a euphemism, when talking about a gigantic industry, hundreds of millions of people being delusional, a billion dollar industry, a hoax on a gigantic scale, the selfishness which this constant drawing of attention, self-pity and abuse of it implies, a selfishness and brutally, although a general human issue, which finds no example in any other kind of people, how would you call a toning down of something like that?

    For a second I though I landed on the version of unz.com for youth, sort of the youth news which the mainstream media has for kids.

  164. Putin and Netanyahu look like this:

  165. A123 says:
    @Herald

    @A123 is no Putin lover, he and others tirelessly work away from one of the many Hasbara boiler room bunkers. Their general aim here is to increase animosity towards Putin and it seems they may be having some success.

    I am Putin neutral to favorable. His Orthodox Christianity and my Protestant Christianity are compatible.

    I commend him when he does things that are obviously correct. For example, establishing that Russia Law is sovereign over international Globalist claptrap.

    I object when he makes mistakes. Giving energy resources to Globalist ringleader Mullah Merkel via Nordstream 2 is obviously an error.
    _____

    The fact that you find and blame this mythical “hasbara” conspiracy in everything says quite a lot about you, your paranoia, and your delusions. There is no secret cabal hiding in boiler room bunkers plotting to get you or anyone else. It’s all in your mind.

    Please seek psychiatric help before you begin to self harm.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Herald
    , @Meimou
    , @FB
  166. Johan says:

    Putin goes of to Israel, to shake hands with the leader of psychopaths, war criminals and financial criminals, aside of a bunch of people with barbarian and atavistic tendencies, to a country which owns the US, if not the whole Western Zionist empire, a country which is the major cause of wars in the world nowadays, a stock of people which allegedly over two millennia ago already slaughtered a people to obtain land, and in the twentieth century did this again, though in a slower tempo, because the world is looking. So Putin being streetwise in geopolitics goes to the mafia, to shake their hands and aids them a bit, teasing the hostile countries a bit, just because a few countries are hostile towards Russia.
    A Western Zionist owned world which is hostile to Russia.
    Sure, smart Putin… what an admirable strategy.

  167. Thirdeye says:
    @Smith

    To the contrary, Putin and the FSB did more than anyone else to break the power of Jewish oligarchs who used their connections to Western finance to gain economic control of and loot Russia during the 1990s. That’s not exactly “carrying water” for Jews. Putin has Jewish ancestry? So fucking what? Lots of ethnic Russians have some degree of Jewish ancestry. Putin made the rules clear for Russian Jews. Act as Russian citizens, obey laws, and don’t undermine national interest. Break laws and act in accordance with the Western Jewish elite that is hostile to Russia and there will be a problem.

    You have no grasp of foreign policy realism. The point of weakening the Atlantic bloc is that it is in Russia’s interest, and encouraging actions that objectively weaken it, be they from the Jewish establishment or Turkey, serves Russian interests. Russia’s interest would not be served by having your “ewww……Jews” reaction.

    To deny that there was a systematic slaughter of European Jews is pure self-blinding silliness. No matter how that fact is exploited by various political manipulators, both Jew and non-Jew, it remains a fact. What is overlooked is that it was a sideshow to a much larger genocidal program, Generalplan Ost. Is it so surprising that there are grounds for mutual understanding between Jews and Russians over those events?

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Johan
    , @SolontoCroesus
  168. Stan says:

    Governor General of Australia, President of Austria, President of Albania, President of Argentina, President of Armenia, King of Belgium, President of Bulgaria, President of Hungary, Prince of Wales, President of Germany, President of Greece, President of Turkey, President of Denmark, President of Iceland, King of Spain, President of Italy, Governor General of Canada, President of Cyprus, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, President of Northern Macedonia, President of Moldova, King of the Netherlands, Crown Prince of Norway, President of Romania, President of Serbia, Vice President of the United States, the president of Finland, the French president, the Montenegrin President, Prime Minister of Sweden, President of the European Council, President of the European Parliament, European Commission President, the Vice President of the USA and the President of Russia.

    Does Israel think inviting African dignitaries is beneath her when it is situated close to many African countries? Sure seems racist.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  169. Quite a few sayanim and hasbara in this website. A few very foolish Shabbos goys too. The names are seen repeatedly pushing the zio-propaganda line—or an approved variant.

  170. FB says: • Website
    @israel shamir

    …It is well known that Poles were awful to Ukrainians and Jews in the Eastern Kresy.

    I had a Ukrainian neighbor who was a quite decent fellow…after hearing the hullaballoo about the Volhynia and Eastern Galicia massacres at the hands of the Ukrainians during WW2, which Poles are griping about still, I asked him a simple question…how did this happen…?

    He simply shrugged and said ‘stuff happens’…I started laughing uproariously…interestingly, his wife was Polish, so I guess that little bit of sad history didn’t get in the way of practical life…

    Fact is that no side in these neighborly disputes is ever 100 percent innocent, or 100 percent guilty…each has been wronged at some point in time, and each will wait for payback when the chance comes…

  171. Parfois1 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    In fact, the USSR entered what was Poland at the time (vast tracks of land occupied by Poland in 1920, where Poles were a minority) more than two weeks after Germany, when Polish government “heroically” ran away. Maybe we live in post-truth times, but truth still matters.

    Telling facts in a sea of ignorance is a thankless task. The odious dogmatism of the anti-Communism hooligans is quite awesome – and they have not personally suffered any harm to justify such boundless hatred. Imagine what they would say or do if they were in the boots of kulaks and aristocrats!

    This an eye-opener regarding the power of propaganda to convert muddled-headed deplorables into worshippers of the capitalist masters, who happen to be mostly Jews – the very Jews they claim to hate! Well done Zion! Your slaves think like your house-negroes.

    • Thanks: FB
  172. Herald says:
    @A123

    You are strongly anti-Russian and are a well known long term Hasbara troll. Your past record speaks for itself.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  173. Parfois1 says:
    @Desert Fox

    Read Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago and Robert Conquest’s Harvest of Sorrow.

    No wonder! That explains why you write such anti-Communism crap.

  174. @Desert Fox

    Read Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago and Robert Conquest’s Harvest of Sorrow.

    Read those. Could have read Nostradamus, just as well. Or the writings of an inmate of a lunatic asylum. The reliability would have been the same. Then again, nothing new in that: people believed all kinds of BS throughout history.

  175. Johan says:
    @Thirdeye

    There is a world of diplomacy, where many things are better not said.., but to be diplomatic with Israel is like being diplomatic with the Nazis. So the tactics is to feed the mean dogs, so that they can bark and bite a bit more, furnishing them with some food. Then the mentioned countries, EU members, (EU = Zionism), will surely start to think about their faulty ways…. All these tactics are futile, whatever you do, you are feeding the mean dogs and operating in accordance to their strategy, to keep the martyrology industry mania and its intended framings, control and submission going.

    • Replies: @Thirdeye
  176. Parfois1 says:
    @utu

    Why there are no broad allegations against German/Nazi soldiers committing mass rapes while there is plenty of evidence about mass rapes committed by Red Army soldiers?

    Perhaps the dead can tell no tales.

    • Troll: byrresheim
    • Replies: @Bookish1
  177. @NPleeze

    The Soviets “liberated” them from the rule of the Nazis – whom the Poles actually preferred

    I think you got that right, even if Poles won’t say it aloud. Poland loved Nazi dick.

  178. @Thirdeye

    To deny that there was a systematic slaughter of European Jews is pure self-blinding silliness. . . . it remains a fact.

    “Systematic slaughter of Jews. . . remains a fact” in your fevered and over-propagandized imagination, but not in the real world.
    In the real world, evidence is, by definition, not blind: it has concrete, sensate existence, and since evidence of a “systematic slaughter of Jews” is glaringly absent, all that’s left in your camp is self-blinding silliness.

    What is overlooked is that it was a sideshow to a much larger genocidal program, Generalplan Ost. Is it so surprising that there are grounds for mutual understanding between Jews and Russians over those events?

    1. Stalinist mass killings took place in reality, not just on paper, as the Generalplan Ost “program,” which never made it off the shelf.

    2. If Germans drafted Generalplan Ost (but did not carry it out), how is it that there is no document to support the alleged “systematic slaughter of Jews?” Wouldn’t it make sense for a plan like GpO to also have been on the shelf?

    3. Jews worked with and for Stalinist Russia from well before the hot war began, with the clear agenda of arming, financing, spying for and in all other ways supporting Communists to defeat – destroy (Christian) Germany / Western Europe. Benjamin Ginsberg makes that clear in How the Jews Defeated Hitler.

    PS But weakening the Atlantic bloc is a good idea. Zionized – Anglo -USA needs to be tamed.

    • Replies: @FB
  179. A123 says:
    @Herald

    You are strongly anti-Russian

    Prove it. You cannot… I have been saying that there is an alliance to be made between:

    — Christian Protestant — Trump — USA
    — Christian Orthodox — Putin — Russia
    ____

    Those hasbara voices that haunt you — They begin and end inside of you. You cannot even remember what people said.

    Seek psychiatric assistance. Please.

    PEACE 😇

  180. German_reader says:
    @Felix Keverich

    Five days (!) ago you wrote this comment:
    https://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-battle-for-auschwitz/#comment-3671739

    the systematic German genocide, which the Soviets rescued them from.

    Germans exterminated 3 million non-Jewish Polish civilians between 1939 and 1944.

    There was a systematic German genocide of Poles and Germans killed 3 million Poles…but “Poland loved Nazi dick”.
    Seems like a slight contradiction to me…

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Karel
  181. Parfois1 says:
    @Stan

    Does Israel think inviting African dignitaries is beneath her when it is situated close to many African countries? Sure seems racist.

    You may have noticed it is a gathering of European vassal countries (a few missing: Balts,Poland, Portugal, Hungary anda few others) plus the Argentinian, Australian, Canadian and US puppets, Turkey being the odd one out.

    They came in to pay their hommage to the master race.

  182. @AnonFromTN

    So, not every prisoner gets treated the same or ends up in the same place. Bandera’s brother died/was killed/ while imprisoned in Auschwitz. The Nazis even let a mega rich Rothschild Jew go after capturing him in Vienna, presumably for a king’s ransom, instead of sending him to a concentration camp like a common Jew.

    The question is was Bandera imprisoned by the Nazis because he was a true nationalist opposed to the occupation of his country by a foreign power or because he was too extreme and inhumane in his anti-semitic and anti-communist actions even for the Nazis to tolerate. Just saying – not bothered either way.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  183. NPleeze says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Freemasonry is largely the “deep state”. However how would Putin, who grew up in Russia and was a member of the KGB (that vetted people quite well), be a freemason? It sounds absurd; and where is the evidence for it? Freemasons have to attend freemasonry meetings, which temple does Putin attend? Hmmm?

  184. E_Perez says:
    @The_seventh_shape

    exactly:
    they were given the choice and could freely decide, as described in detail in Elie Wiesel’s novel (which the @fiendly… apparently has not read).

    Elie and his father decided to flee the Sowjets and go to Germany protected by … the SS.

    One of the many things that dont fit the court historian picture of Auschwitz.

  185. @Commentator Mike

    Bandera was as brutal as the worst of Nazis and had no scruples whatsoever. It is a well-known story, not denied even by his apologists among Ukies, that in his younger days he used to torture and kill cats. Hitler imprisoned him because Bandera wanted independent Ukraine (at least as a protectorate of Nazi Germany), whereas Hitler had no more intention of making Ukraine independent than Napoleon making Poland independent. Hitler kept him in VIP camp just in case, as a potentially useful tool to kill Jews, Russians, and communists. Unlike normal concentration camp prisoners, who were never released, Bandera was released by Hitler in 1944. Despite Nazi hopes, Bandera and his goons proved no match for the Red Army, so he ran to Germany with retreating Nazi troops. After WWII he was active in several rabidly anti-communist organizations and collaborated with British intelligence. He was assassinated by a KGB agent in 1959 in Munich.

    • Troll: Mr. Hack, byrresheim
    • Replies: @PeterMX
    , @Gerard2
  186. @NPleeze

    Of course, there is no proof that Putin is a Freemason. Because he isn’t. It’s an empty claim some people make, like the fable about Putin owning $50 billion (which is really ridiculous: you cannot possibly hide this amount of money, especially in the West, where it would be stolen by competing thieves: even paltry few billions of Gaddafi were promptly stolen from a “safe” European bank).

  187. @byrresheim

    Even the zionazi plagiarist Elie Wiesel admits that the inmates in Auschwitz imagined that the Nazis would massacre them if they were not fit enough to travel. In the event, the Nazis were too busy fleeing to worry about murdering the last few left behind. As Wiesel also admits, those who were left behind were simply liberated by the Red Army a couple of days later. Since this same Wiesel also attempts to hide the fact that he owed his own survival to Communist camp inmates who hid young inmates from the guards and fed them extra rations, his anti-communist credentials are not exactly in doubt.

    There were probably *some* who feared the Red Army: common criminals (greens) in the camps, for example, or Kapos, without whom the camps couldn’t be run, or the Baltic and Ukrainian SS auxiliaries who made up the majority of camp staff. I don’t doubt those scum feared the Red Army, not at all.

    • Replies: @Wally
  188. @E_Perez

    Not only have i read it, I read it with a great deal more attention than you, obviously.

  189. @NPleeze

    Wikipedia : History of Freemasonry in Russia : “Freemasonry started in Russia in the 18th century and continues to the present day .”
    freemasonrywatch.org : “Book says KGB used Freemasonry to penetrate [British] secret service.”

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @NPleeze
    , @utu
  190. @Felix Keverich

    The Poles were cooperating closely with the Nazis through the 1930s and used Munich to seize Czechoslovak territory to the east. Poland refused Stalin’s urgent request to give the Red Army passage to Czechoslovakia to defend it from Hitler (something even the west now reluctantly admits). Poland, in the end, simply imagined that it would get more from a Brutish/French alliance than from being friends with the Nazis and switched sides.

    • Agree: Karel
    • Replies: @Anon
  191. @9/11 Inside job

    You must be truly blind not to see the difference between a KGB spy and genuine Freemason. Still, nobody is as blind as someone refusing to see.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  192. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Seems like a slight contradiction to me…

    Homo sovieticus is not bounded by contradictions. He has a peculiar situational and dialectic relationship towards the truth. When caught with a hand in the cookie jar he alternates between vehement denials and accusations sometimes even in the same sentence. Like a child who yet has not been acculturated to owning its responsibility. You may either hear that Stalin and Soviets had nothing to do with Katyn or that Poles deserved Katyn and Stalin made a right decision when exasperated because of the evidence. You get Israel Shamir’s “I did not mention the doubtful Katyn”

    https://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-battle-for-auschwitz/#comment-3671871

    or

    “Joseph Stalin was right to order the murder in Katyn” – January 20, 2020, Yevgeny Satanovsky

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  193. NPleeze says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    “Book says KGB used Freemasonry to penetrate [British] secret service.”

    That’s absurd, the Windsors (and their Blue Blood clan) are at the pinnacle of Freemasonry, and have been for centuries. It’s the system they set up to rule clandestinely when technological innovations made OBVIOUS rule by inherited dictatorship untenable – so they created the Deep State to really rule and some “democratic” political machinery to fool the idiots.

    That means British (and US) secret service have always been a part of Freemasonry, and it would be pointless for KGB to infiltrate them that way. Now it is a fact that Jews have infiltrated Freemasonry, and a lot of people confuse KGB and Jews (even though the USSR’s secret police started out as an almost entirely Jew terrorist affair, these ZioNazis were eventually purged by Stalin and then later Khrushchev).

    The other “secret cabal” is a subset of Jews, who don’t need to hide their mutual affiliation and supremacism as they have managed to prevent any analysis or criticism of their scheming via the “anti-Semitism” slur, which, due to the abundant aforementioned idiocy, is still effective to stifle turth.

    • Replies: @Milton
    , @Commentator Mike
  194. utu says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Nazis confiscated archives of masonic, occult and Jewish organizations in countries they occupied. Some of them were collected in Vienna where Julius Evola was studying them. Then they fell into Soviet hands.

    November 2007
    ‘Returned from Russia: Nazi Archival Plunder in Western Europe and Recent Restitution Issues’
    https://www.lootedart.com/MRJSPN312881

    At war’s end, the victorious Red Army found some of the most important Nazi hideouts. Many of Europe’s captured archives were seized a second time and rushed to Moscow on Beriia’s orders, where they remained in secret for almost half a century. When the Russian Federation was admitted to the Council of Europe in 1996 it promised to expedite “the return of property claimed by Council of Europe member States, in particular the archives transferred to Moscow in 1945.”

    Since then only five instances of archival returns have been finalised on the basis of the new Russian law – four handled diplomatically to France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, and a fifth, the Rothschild family papers from Vienna, as the first instance of a private family arrangement.

    https://www2.archivists.org/sites/all/files/Grimsted_ch9_displacedarchives_2018.pdf
    “Pan-European Displaced Archives in the Russian Federation: Still Prisoners of War on the 70th Anniversary of V-E Day”

    Another blatant example of the complex dispersal of files from Austria and Greece, and even remaining files from France, is the largest collection of Masonic archives ever assembled, large parts of which remain in Moscow today. Masonic archives from all over the european continent were brought together during the Second world war by the Seventh Office (Amt VII) of the RShA.

    KGB Archives Reveal Masonic Secret History
    https://www.freemasonrytoday.com/features/kgb-archives-reveal-masonic-secret-history

    • Replies: @Anon
  195. Seraphim says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    An interesting account of how the number of Jewish victims had been established @ “The World Conquerors: The Real War Criminals”, by Louis Marschalko (1958), Chapter Eleven, ‘What Has Become of Six Million Jews?’:

    “As the paper Der Weg proved, the so-called “interrogators” were sent to Europe early in 1945. These ” interrogators” consisted of up to one hundred per cent, of American Jews and of German Jews
    who had emigrated to escape from Hitler. They began their enquiries in 1945 and when their records were summarised, it appeared that twelve million Jews were killed by the Germans in the gas chambers. This result was apparently a bit too much even for the Jew Walter Lippman, who warned the Jews in the columns of the New York Herald Tribune that by using such manifestly forged figures they would only harm themselves. As a result of his leading article the figure for Jews “murdered” by the Germans was suddenly dropped to six million”.
    Remember how the commemorative plaque at Auschwitz dropped from 4 million to 1.5 million?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  196. @utu

    Are you saying that Israel Shamir and Satanovsky are one and the same person? I did not know that. Neither did anyone else.

  197. @A123

    Nobody can have an alliance with Amerikastan. Amerikastan has no allies. Only vassals, and one master (the zionazi pseudostate). So you want Russia to be a vassal of a vassal of the zionazi pseudostate?

    That seems pretty anti-Russian to me!

  198. @PeterMX

    “the story of Babi-Yar is very questionable and serious people have raised serious questions about it.”

    It is more than ‘questionable’, it is pure fabrication from start to finish. What happened in Kiev was Soviet barbarism – German and Romanian soldiers being blown up by Soviet delayed bombs, which also started big fires in the city, which killed and injured more German soldiers fighting to put them out. The proclamations to the citizens of Kiev have been distorted too. The Babi Yar hoax is a smaller scale version of the entire Holocaust hoax. It’s all a hoax, and Israel Shamir goes along with it, without a care in the world.

    I’ve had my own interchange with him, written about here: http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/israel-shamir-says-wiesel-was-there/ It’s very revealing about his habitual carelessness with the truth, his off the cuff, unchecked remarks — so do read it.

    • Agree: PeterMX
  199. More BS. The Russkies are pushing this claptrap because it’s what they do; stir up somebody else’s hornets nest. The holocaust is nothing but a PR move by (((certain))) groups. Now that the ‘Greatest Generation’ is fading away, then can push the limits since the actual witnesses are becoming scarce. Scams R Us from the Jewish Mafia, with a sizable percentage kicked up so that Bibi and Company can wet their beaks. Funny how there is never a mention of the Palestinian displacement….

  200. @PeterMX

    PeterMX, In my podcast series on The Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau [German investigating body into Allied war crimes against German soldiers], one chapter was specifically about Vinnitsa. Read and listen to it here: https://carolynyeager.net/wehrmacht-war-crimes-bureau-1939-1945-part-12
    These were awful atrocities carried out by the Red Army under the direction of the Commissars.

    • Thanks: PeterMX, Meimou
  201. Milton says:
    @NPleeze

    It’s interesting that both Freemasonry and Zionism are a corruption of true Religion.

    Freemasonry has its origins in the Medieval Catholic Stone Guilds. Freemasonry is a corruption and inversion of Catholicism: it retains the organization and rituals of Catholicism while serving an entirely different master.

    Zionism has its origins in the faction of wicked, Baal-worshiping Israelites whose disobedience towards the Covenant was the source of so many of the Old Testament chastisements that fell upon ancient Israel. Ahab, Jezebel, Manasseh, Jehoram, Herod, Simon bar Giora, etc: these were the forefathers of modern Zionism. It’s also no coincidence that a founding father of Communism, Moses Hess, was also the founder of modern Zionism.

  202. PeterMX says:
    @AnonFromTN

    But was he as brutal and awful as the Bolshevik Jews? That is the real test? Did he encourage his troops to rape enemy women, as the top Bolshevik Jew propagandist Ehrenburg did? And how does he stack up against those wonderful Americans and British that deliberately targeted millions of German men, women and children for murder by bombng (and machine gunning) while those evil “Nazis” you speak of abided by the Geneva Convention and only attacked Britain’s military installations after the English declared war on Germany. Go back to your History Channel. You’re boring.

  203. @AnonFromTN

    No he is not.
    He is saying, and I concur, that the esteemed Mr. Shamir places himself next to strange fellows.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  204. FB says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    Wow…if you believe all that bullshit you just gurgled out your silly ass then you must be intellectually challenged on many levels…

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @SolontoCroesus
  205. @Milton

    The Old Testament is a myth and the Zionists were atheist to the core.

    • Replies: @Milton
  206. @FB

    India was gone by 1948, and with it much of the British ability to sadistically cause havoc on the continent.
    It has not been forgotten by all who handed eastern Eurpe to Stalin and his merry band of rapists.

  207. Milton says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The Old and New Testaments are true history (more and more of it continues to be dug up in the Middle East and Jerusalem itself testifies to the truth, beginning with the vacant remnants of the Second Temple) and, yes, Zionism is atheist to the core. It’s hard to have a claim on the Promised Land when you don’t believe in the Promisor.

  208. Miro23 says:

    Putin was very cautious – he did not say a word about Iran. Russia is a friend of Iran; Russian and Iranian navies performed joint naval exercises quite recently. Putin was silent about the alleged plague of anti-Semitism of recent days. Straight after the Forum, he went to the Palestinian city of Bethlehem for a meeting with Mahmud Abbas, the president of Palestine. Russians are engaged in the reconstruction of Star Street leading to Manger Square in front of Nativity Cathedral in the city.

    Putin was the only one of the many Forum guests who balanced his visit to the Jews with a visit to the Palestinians. He also met with the Patriarch of Jerusalem, expressing his support for the native church of the Holy Land.

    Very good of Putin. The US Deep State/NWO Jews are after him and Russia, and Netanyahu will be as two faced as usual.

    So, even more reason for the Poles to declare neutrality, remove the US military from their territory and build more productive and respectful links with Russia. There are already some (small) but ongoing positive signs:

    • School Afloat – sailing camp for Polish and Russian youth, led by Krzysztof Baranowski
    • Football Championship for boys and girls living around Polish-Russian border
    • Club of Gdańsk – meeting point for Polish and Russian young leaders
    • The Intersection Project: Russia/Europe/World online platform
    • Summer School (Poland, Russia, Germany, Ukraine)

  209. Miro23 says:
    @NPleeze

    All true, but like Shamir says, it’s necessary to start from today, and Putin isn’t Stalin.

  210. Bill P says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    If the US lost its superpower status China would have no reason to take Jews seriously. The idea that Jews could cut a deal with China to ruin the US and come out the better for it is preposterous. I’d expect Israel to make contingencies for such a possibility, but “Jewry,” such as it is, would be insane to bank on that.

    In any event, China has already taken peemptive measures to curtail Jewish influence. In 2016 the CCP shut down the few synagogues in Kaifeng and demolished all physical traces of the religion — I’d call that a pretty big Failure on the part of international Jewry. Judaism is not recognized as a legitimate religion that may be practiced by Chinese citizens, and therefore is illegal, although exceptions are made for the few foreign Jews in important cities.

    What’s more, if people think Orientals are unaware of the racialist nature of Judaism, they are mistaken. In fact, they understand that aspect of the religion better than Western Christians, and are therefore better prepared to counter it.

  211. MarylinM says:

    When I heard Putin’s groveling rant, my first impulse was that he fell deep into the shabbas-goy routine. But the reason was escaping me – after all it is the Soviets who committed the greatest genocide in the human history, and somebody might call him on that. But nobody did. Hmmm.

    Putin’s entire history in government, starting from his Eastern Germany KGB post, was a relentless persecution of the filthy rich, the “oligarchs”, and, most recently, instrument the belly-up “restructure” of the government, where the oligarchs would finally be forced to obey the rules of the Central Government, i.e. his rules, rather than run their own mini-empires, and then exclusively for the benefit of the Russian “people”.

    Add to that the speed with which all that happened – on the dime, and without a single squeak, either from the “progressive” and “regressive” talking heads in US – a feat that only Caesar and Hitler were once able to pull-off successfully.

    And then he spoke about then need for a fundamental makeover of the UN – “for global peace”. Whatever. That song was not exactly new, to be sure – he’s been chirping that for years, but nobody listened.

    And then I saw the grin on Bibi’s face, and I blinked.

    He and his US buddies finally realized that Putin’s Caesarian ambitions could be their ticket to Zionist Paradise On Earth, and even more importantly, sans the “Democrats”, sans the “Republicans”, and the enormous expense they require to make them spin their shabbas-goy doodah.

    As always in politics, it is only the natural symbiosis of raw chutzpahs, however diverse, that leaves an imprint in history.

  212. Miro23 says:
    @Ship Track

    I also ask the Germans to take good care of their Ukrainian allies. The Ukrainian peasantry and working class, be conscious of what his intense work, at home and in Germany, means. These great historical times will contribute to a better nation.

    The Archbishop of the newly “liberated” Ukraine wasn’t very well informed. Hitler’s plans for the Ukranians were entirely different.

    “We’ll take the Southern part of the Ukraine, especially the Crimea, and make it an exclusively German colony. There’ll be no harm in pushing out the population that’s there now. The German colonist must be the soldier-peasant and for that I’ll take professional soldiers, whatever their line may have been previously.”

    Hitler’s Table Talk, Evening 27th July 1941.

  213. utu says:
    @German_reader

    …leather coats and blue caps…

    Vasily Blokhin – His count of 7,000 shot in 28 days remains the most organized and protracted mass murder by a single individual on record,[3] and saw him being named the Guinness World Record holder for ‘Most Prolific Executioner’ in 2010.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin
    “Blokhin initially decided on an ambitious quota of 300 executions per night; and engineered an efficient system in which the prisoners were individually led to a small antechamber—which had been painted red and was known as the “Leninist room”—for a brief and cursory positive identification, before being handcuffed and led into the execution room next door. The room was specially designed with padded walls for soundproofing, a sloping concrete floor with a drain and hose, and a log wall for the prisoners to stand against. Blokhin would stand waiting behind the door in his executioner garb: a leather butcher’s apron, leather hat, and shoulder-length leather gloves. Then, without a hearing, the reading of a sentence or any other formalities, each prisoner was brought in and restrained by guards while Blokhin shot him once in the base of the skull with a German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP pistol.[12][13][14] He had brought a briefcase full of his own Walther pistols, since he did not trust the reliability of the standard-issue Soviet TT-30 for the frequent, heavy use he intended. The use of a German pocket pistol, which was commonly carried by German police and intelligence agents, also provided plausible deniability of the executions if the bodies were discovered later.”

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  214. refl says:
    @Karel

    Some ancestors of mine were driven out of the Salzburg lands for being Protestants in the 1680s and marched all their way to Masuria. When I go on holiday to the Alps, do you want me to take a gun with me and ask those pleasant farm people to vacate one of these nice mountain huts for me, because it is mine, anyway?

    Besides, the population in the Germanized regions in Eastern Europe was a complete mix. You find that in the names of the ancestors. Which language they spoke depended on who married into which village. So since 1255 there are a lot of generations that have gone down in history.
    If you identify with some ancient king you have read about in some textbook, whose language you would not have understood neither and who would not have talked to you anyway, because you would have been on the lowest social level next to him, I cannot help you.

    Anyway, what would it be like to be handed over the keys to a house, when you know that the owner and his family were clubbed to death and dug under at the roadside a hundred meters from their property that you are supposed to take over? And what would it be like to find out on inspecting your house over the years, that the guy they killed must have been a genius?

    Your attitude is one of the morally terminaly corrupted. I am really sorry, but this way I cannot learn anything from this interchange, except the realization that in the 21 century in civilised Europe, there are people with a murderously dangerous mindset. I roll my eyes over the Zionists for believing they own the middle East, but maybe they are just normal after all.

    • Replies: @Karel
  215. Smith says:
    @FB

    Sorry FB my old Boomer friend, but if you believe the Holohoax bullshit, you are 100% brainwashed.

    Also, there is no point to this shit, if Russia has some balls against muh Zionism, it would not even be in this meeting. Political realism is another word for 4D chess cuckoldry, sucking Zionist cock (Israel) to own Zionists (USA & Poland), except Poland has the balls to not show up.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  216. @FB

    Not an especially aesthetic way to say, “I can’t refute your claims.”

    FB fits the mold of Abba Eban’s opening remarks in Heritage, Civilization and the Jews: Eban said Jews are not very creative: “the Jewish people are not noted for monuments or compelling works of art . . .”

    [Just skimmed Taylor McClain’s article, Netflix’s (And Israel’s) The Spy; McClain lists about forty Mossad-ish spy flicks, an inversion on an old saw: “the movie was bad but there were plenty of them.”]

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @FB
    , @Thirdeye
  217. @Bill P

    Good to know.

    Once again, in the Solomon Wald white paper, Jews display their neediness to be thought an “ancient civilization, like China:”

    “Wald notes that many Chinese often tend to see the Jews as a mirror of their own history, they admire Jewish wealth and successes, they respect the great contributions that Jews have made to Western civilization (citing most often Marx, Einstein, and Freud), and they perceive themselves and the Jews as representing the “two oldest living civilizations.”

    Yossi Alpher made a similar observation about the “deep need” of Jews to be thought the equal of the Persian empire:

    “We Israelis, to this day, have a need to — a deep need to be recognized and accepted by the region.
    You see, Bibi’s demand, which is supported by most Israelis, that the Palestinians recognize us as . . . the nation-state of the Jewish people — this goes way back, this need to be recognized. . . . [T]here’s this sense that the ancient peoples of the Middle East have created an alliance, the people who precede the Arabs, okay. We go back with Iran, we just celebrated Purim, all right, we go back 2,600 years with Iran. The Egyptian, the Ethiopian national narrative is King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. So, this is almost a biblical — a new biblical chapter.
    . . . Everybody in Tehran and in Addis and in Ankara were cynical practitioners of realpolitik. They did not reciprocate. They said, we kidded ourselves that they did. And we still do to this day, because if you believe that this is — we are somehow Middle Eastern, ancient blood brothers, then who’s Khomeini? This wasn’t meant to be.

    from Israel’s Periphery Doctrine and Search for Middle East Allies, by Yossi Alpher

  218. Belchazar says:
    @Milton

    This is absolutely true but you obviously have some interest in the eschewed topics otherwise this is odd reading material for someone with such rarified insight.

  219. Belchazar says:

    This article is another painful one side of the story presentation. I wish it were true that the Soviet Union and now Putin were such sainted goodlinessness as is suggested here, but alas it is false.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  220. Belchazar says:
    @Milton

    My apologies I see you have much to contribute, all is well.

  221. gott says:
    @Just passing through

    bullet hole in the skull, simple

  222. @NPleeze

    Surely you’re aware that some of the top Brit MI agents pre and post WWII were also KGB spies. It isn’t that the KGB had to infiltrate Russians into this services, they just turned existing British agents.

  223. @utu

    After reading your comment, I did some searches to try to determine if Blokhin was jewish. I found several statements that he was jewish, but no confirmation from jewish media or ancestry. Wiki does not state his or the religion of his parents. This alone is evidence that he was jewish, does anyone have proof or more evidence?

    While searching, I came across this little known jewish genocide:

    The Kazakh famine of 1930–1933, known in Kazakhstan as the Goloshchekin genocide

    “was a man-made famine where 1.5 million (possibly as many as 2.0–2.3 million) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famines of the early 1930s.[8][2] Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine.[9]

    Kazakhstan’s livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic’s cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.[10] Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[11]

    The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic’s population were Kazakhs, but after the famine, only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs.

    Genocide is as jewish as the Talmud. That is why they never stop kvetching about the holofraud. Now Putin has once again gone to kiss the jewish ***. He has allowed Russia to become just another shabboz country. He isn’t half the man Hitler was.

    • Replies: @utu
  224. utu says:

    Germany extends Holocaust compensation to include survivor spouses
    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-extends-holocaust-compensation-to-include-survivor-spouses/a-49438399

    Since 1952, the German government has paid over $80 billion (€71 billion) in pensions and social welfare payments to Jews who suffered under the Nazi regime.”

    WJRO Applauds Passage of Serbian Legislation Addressing Heirless Property Restitution
    https://wjro.org.il/wjro-applauds-passage-of-serbian-legislation-addressing-heirless-property-restitution/

    “This is the first legislation on heirless property passed since Serbia and 46 other countries endorsed the 2009 Terezin Declaration on Holocaust Era Assets and Related Issues, which called for the restitution of heirless Jewish property.

    Some specific elements of the new law include €950,000 per year for 25 years in compensation to SAVEZ to support the revitalization of the Serbian Jewish communities, and in rem restitution (return of a property) to the Serbian Jewish communities of heirless and unclaimed movable and immovable property. Holocaust survivors and their heirs will have the opportunity to obtain any of their property that will be returned to the Serbian Jewish communities.

    In addition, distribution of revenues from compensation and restitution will support Holocaust survivors; social welfare of Jews living in Serbia; Holocaust research, commemoration and education; and sustaining Jewish communities and religious and cultural activities. At least 20 percent of those revenues in the first decade will be directed to assist Serbian Holocaust survivors now living in Serbia or abroad.

    The law also establishes a Supervisory Board, with representation from WJRO, SAVEZ and the Serbian government, to supervise and monitor the management of funds.

  225. Belchazar says:
    @Priss Factor

    “So, Russia sidles up to Jews like a lapdog and says “Poles are the real nazis”, and Poland sidles upto Jews like a running dog and says “Russians are the real nazis.”

    It’s all very pathetic and embarrassing”

    It is absolutely embarrassing I couldn’t agree more. When you sell your soul down the river you end up pleasing no one and disgracing yourself.

  226. @AnonFromTN

    The truth is hard to find , but “Mi6 regrets helping Vladamir Putin to win power says ex-spy chief”the times.co.uk
    “What does the Royal Arch Freemason Vladamir Freemason have to do with her Majesty’s Secret Service?” wariscrime.com
    President John Quincy Adams warned the Nation about the dangers posed by Freemasonry : “John Quincy Adama : violence in the oaths of Freemasonry ” davidjanssen.wordpress.com .If he were alive today he would be warning us about all the international political leaders who are either Masons or members of organizations linked to Freemasonry ,such as Putin , Netanyahu and King Jong-Un to name a few .
    “Kim Jong-un & Trump’s Masonic Spectacular-theater for the masses ” steemit.com
    “Freemason Israel Prime Ministers ,1948-2008” lefeminceforlife.blogspot.com

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  227. Belchazar says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “So basically, the US and Russia are in a pissing match over who’s more subservient to Organized Jewry? (And of course the Poles are chiming in with their usual cluelessness.)”

    Basically – yes.

  228. Bill P says:

    The Chinese Wald is referencing are merely being polite. They don’t remotely see the Jews as their equals, but rather as a currently influential but historically minor sect/nationality.

    Aside from Christians (of which there are admittedly quite a lot in China), Chinese have no interest in Jerusalem or Israel. Instead, they all want to go to Rome, Paris and London. The women, however, who comprise the majority of Chinese tourists to Europe, also like to visit the taller, better-looking parts of Europe, such as Croatia, Denmark and the Netherlands, presumably for adventures with the local men (Chinese are not prudes). Jews just aren’t really on their radar.

    Furthermore, the Holocaust narrative doesn’t move Chinese in the least. If anything, they tend to assume that any people a major nation decided to exterminate must have asked for it. China does, after all, have itss own history of exterminating unwanted minorities/sects (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou_massacre).

    When you see Chinese kissing Jewish ass in the US, just keep in mind that this is the United States and they are aware of the sociopolitical reality here. Go elsewhere and you’ll see how little they care. In fact, you might be surprised how little they care about the US in general. I’ve found the Russians to be more obsessed with America, for whatever reason.

  229. @9/11 Inside job

    corrections , wrote the above comment while half asleep :
    Vladamir Putin , not “Vladamir Freemason”
    John Quincy Adams , not “John Quincy Adama “

  230. Thirdeye says:
    @Johan

    ….but to be diplomatic with Israel is like being diplomatic with the Nazis.

    And guess what? The Soviet Union was diplomatic with the Nazis when it served their interests.

  231. Sam J. says:
    @Bill P

    “…The idea that Jews could cut a deal with China to ruin the US and come out the better for it is preposterous…”

    You have no idea how this warms my anti-Jew heart. The idiot psychopathic Jews have been so greedy and have hated Whites so bad that don’t even see they are burning down their own house. Hatred of the host has always been a failing of parasites.

    The Jews are so stupid they don’t realize that their niche, ripping people off by pretending to be victims and general psychopathic behavior, only works on a compassionate people like Whites. Everywhere else it’s a big zero. We’ve seen failures in China and some recent ones in South America. They are scrambling wherever they can every since their vaulted military got it’s ass kicked by Hezbollah. OOPS!

    The only thing we can do to save ourselves is to get rid of the Jews. Let them meet whatever fate they have made for themselves but not among us. They must go. Peacefully if we can get it but by any means possible they must go and they must never have any more power over us.

  232. Belchazar says:
    @FvS

    “That being true, then there must be something about WASP culture that guarantees Jews to amass power.”

    “Christianity.”

    Yep that is a big part if it, I am a Christian and I know that it is true. If a Christian comes from a Zionist Christian household it takes a lot to have that head reformatted so that reality can enter. There are passages that Christian’s keep referring to in support of their obsession but they ignore others which would warn them off if they were being diligent to properly discern.

    But the other part of it is the high individusm of our culture, it can not form a defence to aggressive out groups as it does not conceive of itself as a group and is more suspicious of insiders than outsiders.

  233. FB says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    Not an especially aesthetic way to say, “I can’t refute your claims.”

    Claims about the historical record that are quite obviously ludicrous and false do not need to be refuted…

    I could take apart your ridiculous little fairy tale if I wanted to bother with a pissant like you…point by point [and I’m sure you realize that…]

  234. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    A lot of fucked up people here want to believe so hard that Israel controls the US…

    Words escape me! I have a feeling that if you were to catch Trumpstein in the act of actually performing fellatio on Shelly Adelson, you would still deny that America is Israel’s bitch!

    I’ll let you ponder this infamous quote by former AIPAC official, Steven Rosen:

    “You see this napkin? In 24 hours, we could have the signatures of 70 Senators on this napkin.”

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2009/05/20/just-a-coincidence-im-sure/

    Truth be told, the quote is a little outdated. If he were to update the reality of AIPAC’s stranglehold over Knesset West today, he’d say they could easily get all 100 signatures!

    • Replies: @FB
  235. @AnonFromTN

    Lol! Who knows for sure? Mr. Shamir has so many pseudonyms, aliases, pen names, akas (check his wikipedia for a list- partial or complete?).

  236. @Seraphim

    The number 6 appears to have some sort of Kabbalistic significance.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  237. @Bill P

    I suspect Organized Jewry is pivoting towards India, not China.

  238. Erebus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    This puts the event, and Putin’s centrality to it, in a far more understandable light.

    Too “understandable” by half, I’d say.

    Statements such as…

    … Kantor has become a member of Putin’s mafia “crew.”

    and

    It is, in reality, a one-man vanity project wholly to boost the vanity of Kantor’s patron, Vladimir Putin.

    .. are provocative. Does Silverstein justify these bald declarations elsewhere?

  239. utu says:
    @Ship Track

    AFAIK he was not Jewish.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  240. @byrresheim

    I read your comments with great attention, for they are polite, written in excellent English and use an understatement rather than overkill. But this objection of yours is not very strong. Bandera was indeed detained; I am not sure we should describe his place of detention as a “concentration camp”. This fate occurred to many politicians who wholeheartedly welcomed Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Tristan Mordel, a Breton nationalist, told me of his father, a leader of Breton pro-German nationalists. He welcomed arrival of Wehrmacht; but very soon he was detained and kept until the war’s end in Berlin. Apparently the Germans were wary of ideological allies, they preferred cowardly and obedient lot.
    The Russian Communists often acted in a similar way, and imprisoned native Communists. The great native Communist leaders – Mao, Kim, Ho, Tito realised themselves outside of direct reach of Moscow.
    Bandera was a man of his mind; in addition, he and his people were excessively cruel and disobedient. His detention reminds of a joke “fired from Gestapo for excessive cruelty”.
    So you see, not much value would be added by considering his removal from his people.

  241. @byrresheim

    I know Mr Satanovsky personally; there is no love lost between us; he is a “muscular Zionist” of Nietzschean hue, who likes to ingratiate himself with ordinary Russians by acting a Stalin simulacre like in the referred case. He, and Mr Kedmi and Mr Soloviev are playing a political show of muscular Russia on Russian TV, and it is quite popular. I do not mind it, it is just a show. I objected only to Satanovsky’s brutal zionist anti-Palestinian statements; it was enough to be threatened by him while live on TV. As for Katyn, I am not certain what happened there, and people whose opinion I value do disagree.

  242. I wish you would not say that. I (practically) never use pseudonyms in my writing, and Wikipedia lies as always. You would not find my writing under an assumed name, that’s for sure.

  243. Thirdeye says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Your claims are so divorced from fact that contempt is all they merit.

  244. geokat62 says:
    @israel shamir

    I (practically) never use pseudonyms…

    Your parenthetical remark reminded me of the story about a future son-in-law inquiring about the virtues of his bride-to-be. To put his mind at ease, the father of the bride reassures him that she is (practically) a virgin.

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  245. Mulegino1 says:

    The mendacious and Manichean narrative of the Second World War- with the fake Holocaust as its centerpiece- has become the fulcrum which Antichrist will use to impose his system upon the world. Holocaust worship, “Shoahism”, is central to the implementation of this. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the Holocaust will be used as a justification for the imposition of the Noahide laws upon all the gentiles.

  246. Karel says:
    @refl

    Read what I wrote more carefully, before starting to accuse someone, you have never met, of having “a murderously dangerous mindset”. If you seriously regret that Germans no longer live in Konigsberg, then, in my opinion, you are mentally unstable. I made a joke and you went for it. Would you want to live in Konigsberg? I have no such intentions. You have no sense of humour. Are you German by any chance?

    • Replies: @refl
  247. Karel says:
    @German_reader

    The Poles did not love Nazis much, but in their peasant slyness, they hoped that the Nazis may help them in curving out new territories from the Soviet Union to enlarge their fabulous Wielkopolska.

  248. Mikhail says: • Website

    Polish-Russian differences are well exhibited here:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/24012020-another-look-at-the-ww-ii-spat-involving-russia-poland-and-israel-oped/#comments

    This year’s Vad Yashem event sought to highlight the liberation of Auschwitz with combating anti-Jewish sentiment in the present. Putin went along with that unlike Duda, who wanted to cherry pick some other matters.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  249. Karel says:
    @Karel

    Yes, but it did not go quite well. Would you have prefered a Nazi (tried but not completed) genocide to a hypothetical Bolschevik genocide? Funny, that Germans are unfortunate in not succeding in any of their great ventures.

  250. @utu

    If you do not like him, it’s got to be enough? Don’t you want to decide who is a Jew?

    • Replies: @Ship Track
    , @utu
  251. FB says: • Website
    @geokat62

    The reality is more like this…

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  252. @israel shamir

    Wikipedia lies

    Alright then, I won’t mention it again.

  253. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:

    Russians and Eastern Euros generally practically worship Jews and Israel nowadays. You’re more likely to find anti-Semitism amongst white leftists/liberals in Western countries than you are in Eastern Europe.

    Jew/Israel worship fits in well with the sort of right wing civic nationalism that is now the norm in Eastern Europe, they think being rabidly pro-Zionist is strong and patriotic.

    • Replies: @snag
  254. snag says:

    Curiously Putin haven’t mention the tens of millions of murdered or starved/worked to death Christian victims by the Jew infested bolshevism years before Holohoax.

    We know that the Jew infested post solidarity regime in Warsaw asked for a retort for their insults and accusations but the urge for revenge have made you blind, senor Putin.

    Count your fingers senor before you shake your hand with zionazis.

    • Replies: @ivan
  255. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    The reality is more like this…

    Reality? It appears you’ve got a tenuous grip on it.

    Something tells me that even if they replaced the Star Spangled Banner with Hatikvah and Old Glory with the Israeli flag, you’d still probably say that America hasn’t lost its sovereignty.

  256. @israel shamir

    I would be far more interested to know what degree in which masonic lodge Blokhin had. Crypto Jews and Freemasons are the scourge of humanity. Their credo is:

    Deny, deny, until you die.

  257. @israel shamir

    Once we know that you have ever used a pseudonym we cannot be can no longer be certain that you are using a pseudonym now. “Practically a virgin” implies that she may have had sex a few times, but that her current status should be of no interest to us now. I think the analogy is excellent.

  258. @German_reader

    In other words…….your grandfather was vile nazi, evil, preverse excrement.

    The only propaganda lie is the idiotic post-war Germany lie about “mass-rape” as Berlin was liberated by the Red Army. That BS was, literally, based on a mathematical formula

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @German_reader
  259. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ship Track

    Nazis good (not perfect), Allies bad (very bad). It’s just that simple: you only need to look at the condition of Europe today to know that. The bad guys won the war. If the Nazis had won, Europe today would be in great shape, and its people thriving.

    • Agree: Bookish1
    • Replies: @Ship Track
  260. snag says:
    @Anonymous

    You don’t know what you’re talking about – Try to distinguish the regimes in those countries made of crypto Jews, shabbat Goyim and EU puppets, take a closer look at the picture painted by Jew infested MSM … and the population in those states.

  261. Anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Franco also seized all masonic archives and had them sent to his HQ, city by city.

  262. @Anonymous

    Obviously we do not know what reality we would not be living in if Germany had managed to prevent the German genocides of 1919 and 1945.

    The real issue is how do you deal with conspiracy and fraud after it has been exposed? How do you affect justice and clawback?

    The chain of talmudic jewish crimes predates “Nazi” Germany by centuries. The holofraud is the andrenochrome of frosting on centuries of jewish genocide cake.

  263. German_reader says:
    @Dr.Areg the 2nd

    your grandfather was vile nazi, evil, preverse excrement.

    Well, some of my relatives were Nazis (two of my great-grandfathers joined the NSDAP in 1937), but they were small fry, certainly not worse (probably better imo) than the NKVD killers whose deeds are presented as “doubtful” by Mr Shamir. And one of my grandfathers actually was English, serving in the British army 1940-1946, that is already at a time when the glorious Soviet Union was still sending tons of supplies to its German partner each day and directing Communist parties in the West to hinder the war effort, so you can go fuck yourself, you stupid Sovok cretin.

  264. Seraphim says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    This matter has been discussed many times, with large amounts of supporting documents, including on this site. What is annoying is that the discussion is always done as if these documents don’t exist. Of course the figure 6 is the basis of calculation of compensations, return of properties, etc.

  265. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    George Washington’s view of America’s foreign allegiances in the world:

    FB’s view of America’s foreign allegiances in the world:

    • Replies: @FB
  266. melpol says:

    Polish civilians not the Nazis murdered over a million Jews. Children and women were beaten and raped to death. Survivors were carted to death camps to be worked and beaten. The Red army saved over a hundred thousand Jews from sadistic guards. Hidden Jews in Warsaw came out to thank the liberating Red Army for saving them from death. The Polish Clergy sanctified the carnage in the name of the Savior. There is no forgiveness for sins of the Polish fathers and mothers. Jews throughout the world thank Putin for bringing to daylight the history of Polish atrocities during WW2.

    • Troll: utu, renfro, Lol just lol
    • Replies: @snag
  267. utu says:
    @israel shamir

    Not sure what is your point. As I said before there is no evidence that Blokhin was Jewish. In fact among the 30 executioners involved in the Katyn Operation who were identified by Nikita Petrov only few seemed to be Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Petrov

    • Replies: @German_reader
  268. snag says:

    Lay off of Poles or anyone, statically no one came even close to your homie’s skills and enthusiasm in rounding their own for one way trip to ovens and selling their soul to Nazis.

    Mordechai Chaim Rumkowski’s “Give Me Your Children” speech is a chilling example of the nightmarish aspects of the Holocaust. As head of the Judenrat of the Lodz Ghetto, Rumkowski remains to this day a controversial figure. Within the Polish city of Lodz was held the second-to-largest concentration of Jews in Europe up to that time (the largest was Warsaw). Rumkowski was appointed “Eldest of the Jews” of the ghetto when it was established in Feb. of 1940. During his tenure, he was viewed with reverence by some and with disdain by others. Many saw him as a power-mongerer & quasi-collaborator. Teenaged-diarist Dawid Sierakowiak declared Rumkowski’s words after a particular speech to be “The demagoguery of a man sick with megalomania.” Sierakowiak unfortunately dies at the age of 19 in Lodz from complications due to starvation (“ghetto disease”) ,…

    http://www.datasync.com/~davidg59/rumkowsk.html

    I would like to add that Judenrat  and their goons were known for running brothels, 5 star hotels, restaurants, pubs and cabarets in Warsaw ghetto while Jewish woman and children were dying from cold and hunger on the streets, they were known for extorting gold and jewelry for a slice of bread or potato from their starving brothers and sisters. Judenrat brass and it’s goons was known for screwing 12 year old girls and boys and for corruption on scale unknown in modern world. – Read uncensored “Notes from the Warsaw Ghetto” not the one in Yad Vashem.

    Read about Kastner and his zionists handlers in Palestine deal with Eichmann, to ship 5-600.00 Hungarian Jews to save 1600 of their relatives.

    Group 13 – Jewish collaborationist organisation in the Warsaw Ghetto during the occupation of Poland in World War II led by Abraham Gancwajch a uniformed Jewish Gestapo in the first incarnation and a network of few hundred snitches after demoting, hard not to mention an equal opportunity group of Jews that snitched also on Poles hiding Jews. 

    Group 13
    ———————-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_13

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Gancwajch

    I can go ’till morning with this crap, there’re as many examples of this mindset and conduct during the war as many ghettos in occupied Poland – Your backstabbing conduct in the part occupied Poland during particians and since ’39 – 89 by Soviets that’s another subject for another day ,…

    Another one ,…

    Stella Kübler
    ———————-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_K%C3%BCbler

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  269. Seraphim says:
    @Mikhail

    A frightful thought occurred to me. The ‘third temple’ already exists. It is Yad Vashem, where all the kings of the world come to worship, bring their gifts to the Prince of this world and receive their marching orders. ‘Lasciate ogni speranza’. The ‘Doomsday Clock’ is closer to Midnight than ever. Be prepared.

    • Agree: utu
  270. @Belchazar

    That brush is very broad. Please be specific on the falsehoods.

  271. Bookish1 says:
    @Parfois1

    The German soldiers were under stacked orders not to rape. The Soviet soldiers were told to rape.

  272. FB says: • Website
    @geokat62

    I never said I agree with the twisted alliance with outlaw state Israel…so please refrain in future from putting up statements like ‘FB’s view…’

    But you clowns that completely overblow and distort the true nature of the relationship are like a broken record…even if simple logic and known facts dictate otherwise…

    I know it will do no good with any of you bumpkins, but here is the reality…yes individuals of ””jewish extraction are quite prominent in the elite [at least the elite that we see…there is another elite, perhaps much more powerful, that we will never see…]

    But just on face value a lot of Jews are playing what appear to be very prominent roles in the political life of the States…

    Now what does that mean…?

    Please go ahead and explain to me whether those Jews are any worse than any of the other members of the parasite class…be they WASPs or whatever…

    Also please explain to me what this Jewish sector of the ruling elite consider as an important ideology by which policy is guided…the ideology is money and power and keeping afloat global imperialism while fleecing the domestic sheeple…

    Do you think you would have a better deal if those Jews weren’t there…?

    How so…in Rockefeller’s era there were no powerful Jews [wealthy yes, but politically powerful absolutely not…they were kept out of the corridors of real power by WASP prejudices and superstitions…]

    That has obviously changed…the WASP elite has come to accept and embrace Jews as capable partners in their crimes against humanity…

    So what does Jewishness have to do with it…?

    Israel is a project of the imperialist elites…for sure because it enhances the empire’s global power projection capability…

    And lastly, do you think ordinary Jewish folk, mostly middle class, but some definitely living hand to mouth like other deplorables…are going to see any benefit at all from those Jewish ‘brothers’ in high places…I don’t think so…those elite Jews think about the ordinary folk [whether Jewish or not] about ZERO PERCENT OF THE TIME…

    There is also the tragedy of the Jews in WW2…this has become a part of the American national myth of the white knight saving desperate victims of evil…all part of the exceptionalism…

    There are many more levels to this…but it boils down to this…the great Eugene Debs more than 100 years ago, urged harmony between black and white working folks, because to the wealthy robber barons, the only color they care about is green…

    I find you Jew obsessives have very little real perspective on history or the dynamics of power and how it is that the little guy always loses…

    I wish Debs were around today to talk more common sense on this…

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Nonny Mouse
    , @renfro
  273. geokat62 says:

    For those who are interested in learning who is influencing whom, this is a must see video:

    Based on a year’s worth of news items, Pastor Chuck Baldwin provides a sample of the influence and control that Zionism has over America…. or how he put it, “they are taking America to the very pits of hell.”

    The fun begins at the 45:00 mark.

    Enjoy!

    • Replies: @niceland
  274. snag says:
    @melpol

    at 273 …

    … post at 275 was my response to your crap – Clean up your own cesspool before you point your finger at anyone and accuse of anything.

  275. @Felix Keverich

    Utter Bolshie Jew nonsense. I got just 2 words to refute your propaganda. Katyn Massacre.

  276. @snag

    An interesting, to me mind-blowing description of the Warsaw Ghetto. A place of luxury! 5-star hotels! Restaurants! Pubs! Cabarets! Jewels! Is this real? Sources?

    • Replies: @snag
  277. @anaccount

    Well of course. Goes without saying.

  278. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    Please go ahead and explain to me whether those Jews are any worse than any of the other members of the parasite class…be they WASPs or whatever…

    FB translation: why this irrational obsession with Jews, goys? For the strong have always exploited the weak, and they will continue to do so. In other words, there’s nothing new under the sun!

    Well, from this bumpkin’s perspective they are far worse. Since they are primarily concerned with their own group interests (what is good for the Jews), the barons of Wall St. had no compunctions about deploying the Great Labour Arbitrage in the late 70s, whereby manufacturing plants and IT companies were relocated to China and India, respectively.

    While profits for executives and share prices skyrocketed, the American middle class was devastated. This is something Henry Ford and other blue blooded American entrepreneurs would never dream of implementing. That’s because they were nationalists, not internationalists.

    The other big difference is mass immigration. While Anglo elites allowed foreigners to enter the country to work in unskilled labour jobs, they most definitely did not want them to become citizens of the country (see Operation Wetback). By contrast, Jewish Supremacist Organizations pushed for non-restrictionist immigration legislation to promote their own group interests, not class interests. Prof. Kevin MacDonald does an excellent job documenting this phenomenon (see Culture of Critique).

    And lastly, do you think ordinary Jewish folk, mostly middle class, but some definitely living hand to mouth like other deplorables…are going to see any benefit at all from those Jewish ‘brothers’ in high places…I don’t think so…those elite Jews think about the ordinary folk [whether Jewish or not] about ZERO PERCENT OF THE TIME…

    More of the ordinary Jewish folk need to speak out against what the Jewish Supremacist Organizations (JSOs) are doing in their name. They will not see the benefit, it is true, even though the reps from JSOs like Jonathan Greenblatt assures them they will defeat “the virulent scourge of antisemitism, once and for all.” They’re the ones who ultimately pay the price and suffer the brunt of the backlash. That’s why I’ve been imploring them to speak out.

    I find you Jew obsessives have very little real perspective on history or the dynamics of power and how it is that the little guy always loses…

    Yes, yes, of course. You’ve demonstrated how real your perspective on history or the dynamics of power is with your insistence that Jewish power is nothing to obsess over because it is no different from Anglo power, lol!

    Listen, why don’t you do yourself a favour and watch the Pastor Chuck Baldwin video I posted. You never know, he might convince you that the bumpkins may have a point.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Robjil
  279. Wally says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    said: “Even the zionazi plagiarist Elie Wiesel admits that the inmates in Auschwitz imagined that the Nazis would massacre them if they were not fit enough to travel. In the event, the Nazis were too busy fleeing to worry about murdering the last few left behind”

    – There were no “massacres” to begin with (no human remains as alleged exist & the allged gas chambers were scientifically impossible) and if there had been the Germans would certainly not have left thousands behind to talk. Inmates were given a choice to stay or leave with the SS, most by far chose to leave with the SS.

    recommended:
    The Truth Deserves to be Known, By Friedrich Paul Berg https://codoh.com/library/document/421/?lang=en exc:

    When the Russians were about to overrun the Auschwitz camp in January 1945, both Elie and his father “chose” to go west with the retreating Nazis and SS rather than be “liberated” by America’s greatest ally. They could have told the whole world about Auschwitz within days—but, both Elie and his father as well as countless thousands of other Jews chose instead to trek west with the Nazis on foot at night in the middle of one of the coldest winters and continue working for the defense of the Reich thereafter. Some of Wiesel’ s exact words in Night (page 78 of the Bantam paperback edition, 1960)are:
    “… The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him [the father] entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. ‘Well, what shall we do, father?’ He was silent. ‘Let’s be evacuated with the others,’ I told him.”
    Elie’s choice is corroborated by other “survivor’ accounts including that of Primo Levi and most notably by the “survivors” from Schindler’s List.
    In their well-known story, as the Russians were about to overrun Plaszow just thirty miles down the road to the east from Auschwitz in November 1944, Schindler and more than a thousand Jews chose to go west with the retreating Nazis rather than hang back and be “liberated” by the Soviets. Some even spent the next several weeks at Auschwitz–but none were gassed, not even in the movie. The hoax has certainly had its day.

    ‘Witnesses’ to the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz, By Robert Faurisson, https://codoh.com/library/document/935/?lang=en#ftnref17
    exc.:

    in January 1945 he tells us, the Germans gave him and his father the choice between staying behind in the camp to await the arrival of the Soviets, or leaving with the Germans; after agreeing between them, the father and son decided to depart for Germany with their executioners instead of staying in place to await their Soviet liberators…[17]

    Historical Past vs. Political Present, By Arthur R. Butz: https://codoh.com/library/document/2939/?lang=en
    exc:

    Wiesel admitted in Chapter 5 that, when the Germans evacuated Auschwitz, he had the option of staying at the hospital, with his father registered as a patient, to await the Soviets. He chose rather to join the evacuation, taking his father with him, on a predictably difficult journey to another German concentration camp.

    Jewish “Survivors” of Auschwitz-Birkenau, By John Wear https://codoh.com/library/document/5482/?lang=en
    exc.:

    The German authorities at Birkenau gave Wiesel and other hospital patients unfit to travel the option to remain in the camp. Wiesel and his father decided to evacuate Birkenau and travel to Buchenwald with the Germans rather than be liberated by the Russian army.[5]

  280. @FB

    One difference IMHO is that a disproportionate number of Jews rise to the top of the money-making world because loans to them are interest-free and loans to Gentiles have maximized interest rates. Also they are unscrupulous and heartless in their dealings because in Judaism there is no morality, except within the family where it is very strict, and non-Jews are to be hated. The same reason the 18c Polish nobles appointed Jews to control the tenant peasants. They could be counted on to prey ruthlessly on the peasants because they were Jews. Business success.

  281. German_reader says:
    @utu

    Not sure what is your point.

    I think he’s trying to liken you to Hermann Göring, who is alleged to have said “I decide who is a Jew”.

    • LOL: utu
  282. @Wally

    Primo Levi’s experience (he was convalescing in the infirmary when the Germans evacuated) is also a big problem for the official narrative.

  283. Popeye says:
    @Felix Keverich

    You correctly state..//…
    .Compounding dishonor with … depravity….// Which I’d change to // compounding dishonor with depravity, stupidity, and ignorance of history…//

  284. Anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    In January 1920 Czechoslovakian army breaking prior agreements with Poland, crossed the demarcation line and by force of arms occupied the Zaolzie, where a 60% majority of the population was Polish, compared to 25% Czechs. After brief fights they made a truce on the power of which Czechoslovakia occupied areas to the west of Olza River. The Czech claim to Lusatia, which had been part of the Bohemian Kingdom until the Thirty Years’ War, was rejected.

    [MORE]

    Cieszyn Silesia was claimed by both Poland and Czechoslovakia: the Polish Rada Narodowa Księstwa Cieszyńskiego made its claim in its declaration “Ludu śląski!” of 30 October 1918, and the Czech Zemský národní výbor pro Slezsko did so in its declaration of 1 November 1918.[23]

    On 31 October 1918, at the end of World War I and the dissolution of Austria-Hungary, the majority of the area was taken over by local Polish authorities supported by armed forces.[24] The interim agreement of 2 November 1918 reflected the inability of the two national councils to come to final delimitation.[23] On 5 November 1918, the area was divided between Poland and Czechoslovakia by an interim agreement of two local self-government councils (Czech Zemský národní výbor pro Slezsko and Polish Rada Narodowa Księstwa Cieszyńskiego).[25] Before that, the majority of the area was taken over by Polish local authorities. In 1919 both councils were absorbed by the newly created and independent central governments in Prague and Warsaw. The former was not satisfied with this compromise and on 23 January 1919 invaded the area[26][27] while Poland was engaged in its war against the West Ukrainian National Republic.

    The reason for the Czech invasion in 1919 was primarily the organisation of elections to the Sejm (parliament) of Poland in the disputed area.[28] The elections were to be held in the whole of Cieszyn Silesia. The Czechs claimed that the polls must not be held in the disputed area as the delimitation was only interim and no sovereign rule should be executed there by any party. When the Czech demand was rejected by the Poles, the Czechs decided to resolve the issue by force.[23]

    Czech units were held up near Skoczów and a ceasefire was signed on 3 February. The new Czechoslovakia claimed the area partly on historic and ethnic grounds, but especially on economic grounds.[29] The area was important for the Czechs as the crucial railway line connecting Czech Silesia with Slovakia crossed the area (the Košice-Bohumín Railway, which was one of only two railroads that linked the Czech provinces to Slovakia at that time).[29] The area is also very rich in black coal. Many important coal mines, facilities and metallurgy factories are located there. The Polish side based its claim to the area on ethnic criteria: a majority (69.2%) of the area’s population was Polish according to the last (1910) Austrian census.[8][30]

    In this very tense atmosphere it was decided that a plebiscite would be held in the area asking people which country this territory should join. Plebiscite commissioners arrived there at the end of January 1920, and after analysing the situation declared a state of emergency in the territory on 19 May 1920. The situation in the area remained very tense, with mutual intimidation, acts of terror, beatings and even killings.[31] A plebiscite could not be held in this atmosphere. On 10 July both sides renounced the idea of a plebiscite and entrusted the Conference of Ambassadors with the decision.[32] Eventually, on 28 July 1920, by a decision of the Spa Conference, Czechoslovakia received 58.1% of the area of Cieszyn Silesia, containing 67.9% of the population.[32] It was this territory that became known from the Polish standpoint as Zaolzie – the Olza River marked the boundary between the Polish and Czechoslovak parts of the territory.

    The most vocal support for union with Poland had come from within the territory awarded to Czechoslovakia, while some of the strongest opponents of Polish rule came from the territory awarded to Poland.[33]
    1918-19
    Leadership of the Civic Defence – Czech paramilitary organisation active in Cieszyn Silesia

    Historian Richard M. Watt writes, “On 5 November 1918, the Poles and the Czechs in the region disarmed the Austrian garrison (…) The Poles took over the areas that appeared to be theirs, just as the Czechs had assumed administration of theirs. Nobody objected to this friendly arrangement (…) Then came second thoughts in Prague. It was observed that under the agreement of 5 November, the Poles controlled about a third of the duchy’s coal mines. The Czechs realized that they had given away rather a lot (…) It was recognized that any takeover in Teschen would have to be accomplished in a manner acceptable by the victorious Allies (…), so the Czechs cooked up a tale that the Teschen area was becoming Bolshevik (…) The Czechs put together a substantial body of infantry – about 15,000 men – and on 23 January 1919, they invaded the Polish-held areas. To confuse the Poles, the Czechs recruited some Allied officers of Czech background and put these men in their respective wartime uniforms at the head of the invasion forces. After a little skirmishing, the tiny Polish defense force was nearly driven out.”[34]

    In 1919, the matter went to consideration in Paris before the World War I Allies. Watt claims the Poles based their claims on ethnographical reasons and the Czechs based their need on the Teschen coal, useful in order to influence the actions of Austria and Hungary, whose capitals were fuelled by coal from the duchy. The Allies finally decided that the Czechs should get 60 percent of the coal fields and the Poles were to get most of the people and the strategic rail line. Watt writes: “Czech envoy Edvard Beneš proposed a plebiscite. The Allies were shocked, arguing that the Czechs were bound to lose it. However, Beneš was insistent and a plebiscite was announced in September 1919. As it turned out, Beneš knew what he was doing. A plebiscite would take some time to set up, and a lot could happen in that time – particularly when a nation’s affairs were conducted as cleverly as were Czechoslovakia’s.”[35]
    Czech anti-Polish leaflet aimed at Cieszyn Silesians

    Watt argues that Beneš strategically waited for Poland’s moment of weakness, and moved in during the Polish-Soviet War crisis in July 1920. As Watt writes, “Over the dinner table, Beneš convinced the British and French that the plebiscite should not be held and that the Allies should simply impose their own decision in the Teschen matter. More than that, Beneš persuaded the French and the British to draw a frontier line that gave Czechoslovakia most of the territory of Teschen, the vital railroad and all the important coal fields. With this frontier, 139,000 Poles were to be left in Czech territory, whereas only 2,000 Czechs were left on the Polish side”.[35]

    “The next morning Beneš visited the Polish delegation at Spa. By giving the impression that the Czechs would accept a settlement favorable to the Poles without a plebiscite, Beneš got the Poles to sign an agreement that Poland would abide by any Allied decision regarding Teschen. The Poles, of course, had no way of knowing that Beneš had already persuaded the Allies to make a decision on Teschen. After a brief interval, to make it appear that due deliberation had taken place, the Allied Council of Ambassadors in Paris imposed its ‘decision’. Only then did it dawn on the Poles that at Spa they had signed a blank check. To them, Beneš’ stunning triumph was not diplomacy, it was a swindle (…) As Polish Prime Minister Wincenty Witos warned: ‘The Polish nation has received a blow which will play an important role in our relations with the Czechoslovak Republic. The decision of the Council of Ambassadors has given the Czechs a piece of Polish land containing a population which is mostly Polish…. The decision has caused a rift between these two nations which are ordinarily politically and economically united’ ( ….”[36]

    The affair soured the Prague-Warsaw relationship.
    View of Victor S. Mamatey

    Another account of the situation in 1918–1919 is given by historian Victor S. Mamatey. He notes that when the French government recognised Czechoslovakia’s right to the “boundaries of Bohemia, Moravia, and Austrian Silesia” in its note to Austria of 19 December, the Czechoslovak government acted under the impression it had French support for its claim to Cieszyn Silesia as part of Austrian Silesia. However, Paris believed it gave that assurance only against German-Austrian claims, not Polish ones. Paris, however, viewed both Czechoslovakia and Poland as potential allies against Germany and did not want to cool relations with either. Mamatey writes that the Poles “brought the matter before the peace conference that had opened in Paris on 18 January. On 29 January, the Council of Ten summoned Beneš and the Polish delegate Roman Dmowski to explain the dispute, and on 1 February obliged them to sign an agreement redividing the area pending its final disposition by the peace conference. Czechoslovakia thus failed to gain her objective in Teschen.”[29]

    With respect to the arbitration decision itself, Mamatey writes that “On 25 March, to expedite the work of the peace conference, the Council of Ten was divided into the Council of Four (The “Big Four”) and the Council of Five (the foreign ministers). Early in April the two councils considered and approved the recommendations of the Czechoslovak commission without a change – with the exception of Teschen, which they referred to Poland and Czechoslovakia to settle in bilateral negotiations.”[37] When the Polish-Czechoslovak negotiations failed, the Allied powers proposed plebiscites in the Cieszyn Silesia and also in the border districts of Orava and Spiš (now in Slovakia) to which the Poles had raised claims. In the end, however, no plebiscites were held due to the rising mutual hostilities of Czechs and Poles in Cieszyn Silesia. Instead, on 28 July 1920 the Spa Conference (also known as the Conference of Ambassadors) divided each of the three disputed areas between Poland and Czechoslovakia.
    Part of Czechoslovakia (1920–1938)
    Polish anti-Czech agitation leaflet

    The local Polish population felt that Warsaw had betrayed them and they were not satisfied with the division of Cieszyn Silesia. About 12,000 to 14,000 Poles were forced[38] to leave to Poland.[39] It is not quite clear how many Poles were in Zaolzie in Czechoslovakia. Estimates (depending mainly whether the Silesians are included as Poles or not)[39] range from 110,000 to 140,000 people in 1921.[40] The 1921 and 1930 census numbers are not accurate since nationality depended on self-declaration and many Poles filled in Czech nationality mainly as a result of fear of the new authorities and as compensation for some benefits. Czechoslovak law guaranteed rights for national minorities but reality in Zaolzie was quite different.[41] Local Czech authorities made it more difficult for local Poles to obtain citizenship, while the process was expedited when the applicant pledged to declare Czech nationality and send his children to a Czech school.[42] Newly built Czech schools were often better supported and equipped, thus inducing some Poles to send their children there. Czechs schools were built in ethnically almost entirely Polish municipalities.[43] This and other factors contributed to the cultural assimilation of Poles and also to significant emigration to Poland. After few years, the heightened nationalism typical for the years around 1920 receded and local Poles increasingly co-operated with Czechs. Still, Czechization was supported by Prague, which did not follow certain laws related to language, legislative and organizational issues.[41] Polish deputies in Czechoslovak National Assembly frequently tried to put those issues on agenda. One way or the other, more and more local Poles thus assimilated into the Czech population.
    Part of Poland (1938–1939)
    Polish Army entering Český Těšín (Czeski Cieszyn) in 1938
    “For 600 years we have been waiting for you (1335–1938).” Ethnic Polish band welcoming the annexation of Zaolzie by the Polish Republic in Karviná, October 1938.
    Decree on the official language on the annexed territory
    “Zaolzie is ours!” – Polish newspaper Ilustrowany Kuryer Codzienny on 3 October 1938.

    Within the region originally demanded from Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany in 1938 was the important railway junction city of Bohumín (Polish: Bogumin). The Poles regarded the city as of crucial importance to the area and to Polish interests. On 28 September, Edvard Beneš composed a note to the Polish administration offering to reopen the debate surrounding the territorial demarcation in Těšínsko in the interest of mutual relations, but he delayed in sending it in hopes of good news from London and Paris, which came only in a limited form. Beneš then turned to the Soviet leadership in Moscow, which had begun a partial mobilisation in eastern Belarus and the Ukrainian SSR on 22 September and threatened Poland with the dissolution of the Soviet-Polish non-aggression pact.[44] The Czech government was offered 700 fighter planes if room for them could be found on the Czech airfields. On 28 September, all the military districts west of the Urals were ordered to stop releasing men for leave. On 29 September, 330,000 reservists were up throughout the western USSR.[45]

    Nevertheless, the Polish Foreign Minister, Colonel Józef Beck, believed that Warsaw should act rapidly to forestall the German occupation of the city. At noon on 30 September, Poland gave an ultimatum to the Czechoslovak government. It demanded the immediate evacuation of Czechoslovak troops and police and gave Prague time until noon the following day. At 11:45 a.m. on 1 October the Czechoslovak foreign ministry called the Polish ambassador in Prague and told him that Poland could have what it wanted. The Polish Army, commanded by General Władysław Bortnowski, annexed an area of 801.5 km² with a population of 227,399 people. Administratively the annexed area was divided between two counties: Frysztat and Cieszyn County.[46] At the same time Slovakia lost to Hungary 10,390 km² with 854,277 inhabitants.

    The Germans were delighted with this outcome, and were happy to give up the sacrifice of a small provincial rail centre to Poland in exchange for the ensuing propaganda benefits. It spread the blame of the partition of the Republic of Czechoslovakia, made Poland a participant in the process and confused political expectations. Poland was accused of being an accomplice of Nazi Germany – a charge that Warsaw was hard-put to deny.[47]

    The Polish side argued that Poles in Zaolzie deserved the same ethnic rights and freedom as the Sudeten Germans under the Munich Agreement. The vast majority of the local Polish population enthusiastically welcomed the change, seeing it as a liberation and a form of historical justice,[48] but they quickly changed their mood. The new Polish authorities appointed people from Poland to various key positions from which locals were fired.[49] The Polish language became the sole official language. Using Czech (or German) by Czechs (or Germans) in public was prohibited and Czechs and Germans were being forced to leave the annexed area or become subject to Polonization.[49] Rapid Polonization policies then followed in all parts of public and private life. Czech organizations were dismantled and their activity was prohibited.[49] The Roman Catholic parishes in the area belonged either to the Archdiocese of Breslau (Archbishop Bertram) or to the Archdiocese of Olomouc (Archbishop Leopold Prečan), respectively, both traditionally comprising cross-border diocesan territories in Czechoslovakia and Germany. When the Polish government demanded after its takeover that the parishes there be disentangled from these two archdioceses, the Holy See complied. Pope Pius XI, former nuncio to Poland, subjected the Catholic parishes in Zaolzie to an apostolic administration under Stanisław Adamski, Bishop of Katowice.[50]

    Czechoslovak education in the Czech and German language ceased to exist.[51] About 35,000 Czechoslovaks emigrated to core Czechoslovakia (the later Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia) by choice or forcibly.[52] The behaviour of the new Polish authorities was different but similar in nature to that of the Czechoslovak ones before 1938. Two political factions appeared: socialists (the opposition) and rightists (loyal to the new Polish national authorities). Leftist politicians and sympathizers were discriminated against and often fired from work.[53] The Polish political system was artificially implemented in Zaolzie. The local Poles continued to feel like second-class citizens and a majority of them were dissatisfied with the situation after October 1938.[54] Zaolzie remained a part of Poland for only 11 months until the invasion of Poland started on 1 September 1939.

    When Poland entered the Western camp in April 1939, General Gamelin reminded General Kasprzycki of the Polish role in the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. According to historian Paul N. Hehn, Poland’s annexation of Teschen may have contributed to the British and French reluctance to attack the Germans with greater forces in September 1939.[55]

    Richard M. Watt describes the Polish capture of Teschen in these words:

    Amid the general euphoria in Poland – the acquisition of Teschen was a very popular development – no one paid attention to the bitter comment of the Czechoslovak general who handed the region over to the incoming Poles. He predicted that it would not be long before the Poles would themselves be handing Teschen over to the Germans.[47]

  285. snag says:
    @Felix Keverich

    “anti-Jewish pogroms after WW2” – What pogroms, name one!

    BTW, the Germans evacuated prisoners from Auschwitz 10 days before the Russians showed up, there was nothing to liberate, the gates were open and who was strong enough he/she left on their own.

    January, 17th 1945 | Death March from Auschwitz
    ————————-
    http://auschwitz.net/deathmarch/

    When did the Soviets liberated Auschwitz?

    January 27, 1945

    On January 27, 1945, the Soviet army entered Auschwitz and liberated more than 7,000 remaining prisoners, who were mostly ill and dying.

  286. FB says: • Website
    @geokat62

    FB translation… the strong have always exploited the weak, and they will continue to do so.

    That’s correct…

    Mass migration…John McCain was no Jew…biggest booster of immigration ever…would say things like ‘Americans wouldn’t do farm labor if you paid them fifty bucks an hour…’

    How many more ‘business leaders’ in America have a burning desire to get workers to work for the lowest possible slave rates…?

    Answer…just about every fucking parasite on earth…

    Same reason for offshoring…they will do anything possible to steal the shirt off your back if allowed to have their way…

    About Henry Ford…his commitment to paying workers much more than anyone else is rooted in logic…consumers need money to buy cars…this is a socialist principle…nationalism has nothing to do with…you’re so fucking stupid you would conflate peas with corn flakes, given half a chance to toot freely here on this website…

    Ordinary Jewish folks are being swept along by their clever ‘superiors’ among the elite just as you and the rest of the non-thinking class have become exemplary Pavlovian idiots…[communism bad…capitalism good…USA, USA…]

    ‘Of course the people don’t want war…but you can always bring the people along…’

    –Goebbels

    Bottom line…you have provided exactly ZERO persuasive argument that Jew parasites are worse than Gentile parasites…

    Take for the example the defense industry, with which I am familiar…Jews are very lightly represented here, practically nonexistent for all intents and purposes…yet this fucking gong show is the most blatant ripoff of ordinary working folks that has ever been devised by the parasite class…Solomon Brothers and all the other Jew cockroaches on Wall Street have nothing on these operators, believe me…

    Do yourself a favor and say no to Pavlov…instead of constantly reinforcing your obedience to your own silly desire for a bogeyman hiding under your bed…

    • Replies: @geokat62
  287. Meimou says:
    @A123

    The fact that you find and blame this mythical “hasbara” conspiracy in everything says quite a lot about you, your (((paranoia, and your delusions.))) There is no secret cabal hiding in boiler room bunkers plotting to get you or anyone else. It’s all in your mind

    Kind of gives it away. (((Projection)))

  288. Seraphim says:
    @Wally

    It must be stressed that Wiesel nowhere speaks of ‘gas chambers’, but he is hailed as the principal ‘witness’ of them! What he said is that Jews were burnt alive in pits, hence the term ‘Holocaust’. Why did he remained silent until 1958, when he published the fiction novel ‘Night’ (ghost written by Francois Mauriac)?

    • Replies: @Theodore
  289. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    Mass migration…John McCain was no Jew…biggest booster of immigration ever

    Listen, genius, you’ve got to stop embarrassing yourself with statements like this.

    McBloodstain was the consummate Traitorous Shabbos Goy. As Ron Unz in his Tokyo Rose articles disclosed, McBloodstain sang like a songbird to avoid being tortured by his captors. The Lobby had so much dirt on him, he was prepared to betray his own mother to please them.

    How many more ‘business leaders’ in America have a burning desire to get workers to work for the lowest possible slave rates…?

    Answer…just about every fucking parasite on earth…

    Ask yourself this question, genius: why didn’t they rip the heart out of the middle class before the late 70s, if these maniacal capitalists were so eager to extract every penny they could? Huh, genius? I’ll tell you why, most entrepreneurs still had a sense of nationalism, they were proud to be Americans and they would never dream of relocating their factories to another country and benefit that foreign country rather than their own. It was simply unheard of as they would be perceived as traitors for doing so. No, ripping out the heart of the middle class took a special category of people to pull it off. A people that felt comfortable doing business internationally. Starting to get the picture, genius?

    About Henry Ford…his commitment to paying workers much more than anyone else is rooted in logic…consumers need money to buy cars…this is a socialist principle…nationalism has nothing to do with…

    Oh, it’s a socialist principle? Henry Ford was a socialist? If that’s the case, why bother offshoring any jobs at all and violate this esteemed socialist principle? lol

    Bottom line…you have provided exactly ZERO persuasive argument that Jew parasites are worse than Gentile parasites…

    You obviously didn’t bother viewing Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s video, didn’t you genius?

    Can you name me one gentile parasite that lobbied to restrict the 1st and 2nd amendment rights? Well, The Lobby managed to convince Trumpstein to do just that with his EO defunding colleges that don’t clamp down on so-called antisemitism. And they’re pushing the Governor of Virginia to restrict gun rights.

    Are you familiar with what life was like for the ethnic majorities in Weimar Germany and Bolshevik Russia? Well, that’s exactly what’s coming to America in the next few years. Maybe then you’ll be able to tell the difference between the two kinds of parasites, huh genius?

    Take for the example the defense industry, with which I am familiar…Jews are very lightly represented here, practically nonexistent for all intents and purposes…

    Practically nonexistent you say? That’s odd. The Israelis have a massive military industry and they have reportedly established deep ties with their American counterparts. To me, that would suggest something beyond very light representation.

    Do yourself a favor…

    No, you do yourself a favour and read Prof. Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique. But be forewarned: if you take the red pill, you too will be looking for a bogeyman hiding under your bed, lol!

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  290. FB says: • Website
    @A123

    …[Putin’s] Orthodox Christianity and my Protestant Christianity are compatible.

    You’re a broken record bible thumper who has become a major annoyance in just about every conversation on this website…a one-dimensional cardboard cutout who is simply incapable of progressing farther than fucking sabbath school…give us a break already…go spend more time at church and less time here…

  291. niceland says:
    @geokat62

    I am using gigabit fiber internet connection and I can’t recall having problems playing youtube videos in past years. For some reason this one is stalling all the time, I get few minutes and then it just stalls. Over and over again. Other youtube videos seem to work just fine.

    Strange.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  292. @Anon

    And your point is? Did or did not Poland co-operate with the Nazis in Czechoslovakia?

  293. @Wally

    And your point is? If you’re going to dismiss Wiesel, a plagiarist and liar even according to other camp survivors, then good claim about his father and he “escaping” Auschwitz – two comments above pretended that this proved the inmates preferred the Nazis to the Red Army – is as unreliable as anything else. So what is your point, assuming you have one?

  294. @Milton

    Oh, right, the Necronomicon of Abdul Alhazred, and the writings of the great prophet HP Lovecraft, are true history, and R’lyeh lies under the South Pacific, from whence Great Cthulhu will arise when the time is right. And the proof is the Bloop, recorded by undersea microphones. Ph’nglui mgwl’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn!

  295. NPleeze says:
    @Milton

    They do believe in the Promisor (the savage beast called yahweh) – because yahweh is the ruler of the Jews, not God (as Jews have brainwashed Christians into believing).

    Jews do not now believe, nor have they ever believed, in God, i.e, Jesus’ God. God, rather, is the antithesis of the Beast yahweh, that filthy, savage, evil monster that Jews worship and that Jesus denounced as the Synagogue of Satan.

    Yahweh is obviously just the personification of the Rabbinical class (and here I am not talking about the ordinary rabbis, but the ruling rabbis of the Jews, because Jews have always been ruled by rabbis, a purely hereditary position, and not by the Kings, who were the rabbis’ puppets and always subject through their rule via the Great Sanhedrin).

    Remember, that rabbis have ruled Jews with an iron fist, and the rabbis (including Moses and Abraham) themselves wrote the Old Testament (and the Talmud, of course, after they stopped calling themselves prophets). They were basically deifying themselves, and gave themselves the roles of the “voice of” a mystical supernatural ruler (whether as so-called “prophets” or later just “rabbis”) they called Yahweh (the Kabala elements).

    And the rabbinical class have always been evil, savage, genocidal monsters. Today I call them ZioNazis, but their spots haven’t changed since all of their genocides, violence and terror chronicled in Deuteronomy, Numbers and Genesis.

    In fact, the Sanhedrin network is to Jewry what the Freemasonry network is to the Blue Bloods. Together they constitute the Illuminati, or The Powers That Be, the Deep State, the Establishment, the AngloZionsts, whatever you want to call them.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
  296. NPleeze says:
    @NPleeze

    In fact, let me take this one step further and link the Beast Yahweh and God to tribalism/ZioNazism and Globalism/Bolshevism.

    Jesus God is a globalist/universalist. All people are equal. Love they neighbor, etc. Be meek.

    Yahweh is a tribalist/Jew supremacist, a ZioNazi, who believes Jews are inherently superior to non-Jews, should be strong and powerful (not meek), and should rule the entire planet and treat all non-Jews as slaves. While this concept permeates the Torah and Talmud, it is most succinctly stated in the passages 20 Deuteronomy 10-15 (how Jews should treat non-Jews around the world – enslave them and kill everyone that refuses to submit) and 20 Deuteronomy 16-18 (how Jews should treat non-Jews in the land of Israel – annihilate them all). This is very clearly stated.

    Thus you have the seeds for Jewish global rule already created back in these two religions. God and Christianity were the tools to be used to enslave the world by preaching a morality which would make it easy for Jews – and again, by this, I mean the rulers, the inherited Rabbinical class – to fulfill 20 Deuteronomy 10-15.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  297. geokat62 says:
    @niceland

    Strange

    Strange, indeed. I just tried viewing it again and experienced no issues.

  298. Robjil says:
    @geokat62

    Geokat,

    Thanks for the Pastor Chuck Baldwin video.

    His detailed listings Zion/Israel first events in the US by calendar dates of 2019 makes it so clear that ZUS exists as a real entity. It is astounding how the US has descended into Zion Zombie-ism.

    ZUS is a Zion/Israel Zombie, it is not a nation or Empire for the US anymore.

    Trump should make a fence around the ZUS with the words Zion Macht Frei on the gates. ZUS is a huge concentration camp for Zion/Israel first policies.

    Biden is a classic example how politicians are Zion/Israel first even when they are not Jewish. Biden gets the deal. He knows that ZUS is a huge Zion Macht Frei concentration camp and nothing more than that.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3586542,00.html

    During the interview conducted by the Jewish ‘Shalom TV’ Biden said, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.” He also revealed that his son is married to a Jewish woman, of the Berger family from Delaware, and that he had participated in a Passover Seder at their house.
    He added that “probably my most poignant Seder memory is not with the Bergers, but what happened right after I came back from meeting Golda Meir (in 1973). I had predicted that something was going on in Egypt. And I remember people talking about what it meant to them if Israel were actually defeated.”

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  299. Gerard2 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    In the recently released American Archives:

    ” He showed great zeal in carrying out Hitlers assignments”

    These archives could have been released over a decade ago – it makes you wonder, why now?
    “Zeal” is quite a special word to use also.

  300. refl says:
    @Karel

    Thanks for explaining it was a joke – this here is an environment where irony is hard to distinguish.
    This thing started, because someone asked Königsberg to be returned, which is nonsensical, but sadly the knowledge about the historical background is very unevenly divided among the readership here.
    I am absolutely German, and I point to that frequently here, because ones background defines ones perspective. I can assure you that revisionism is next to nonexistent here, and the generation of the expellees has nearly died out

    I am from a family who never were expelled.

    You see, in East Germany the people were told that the Fascists had fled to the West and they were the good guys now – a lie similar to the lies told across Eastern Europe where colaboration was rampant. That was for a reason, by the way, because if you had to chose between Fascists and Bolsheviks, above all when the Fascists appeared to be winning, was an impossible individual choice.
    The western version, which reigns supreme now, is far more sophisticated:
    It says that you have the Nazi evil in yourself, and not only as a German, but for being that white European. You can only clean yourself by abrogating, and that affects you as much as me.
    Realizing this, one comes to question the whole historical record, and the result might be unpleasant.

    Maybe, I have explained myself.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  301. utu says:

    Anne Frank’s step-sister and Holocaust survivor Eva Schloss claims photos of the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz are FAKE because soldiers hadn’t brought cameras and were taken at other camps

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7933509/Anne-Franks-step-sister-claims-photos-showing-liberation-Auschwitz-FAKE.html

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
  302. snag says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    Look for unedited Emanuel Ringelblum’s “Notes from the Warsaw Ghetto” not the one in Yad Vashem. more on this subject in writings of Marek Edelman one of the surviving so called ghetto ‘uprising’ leaders.

    You won’t find much on this subject in english and no wonder why – Here’s a lousy google translation of the reality in ghettos in those days that shade some light on so called jewish values and solidarity.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=https://wolnemedia.net/zydzi-mordowali-zydow/&prev=search

  303. I want to correct and add that Prince Charles also visited Bethlehem, not only Putin.
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200126-charles-words-on-palestine-must-not-go-unnoticed/

  304. Theodore says:
    @Seraphim

    Wiesel nowhere speaks of ‘gas chambers’

    “There is one single allusion, extremely vague and fleeting, on pages 78-79: Wiesel, who very much likes to have conversations with God, says to Him: “But these men here, whom You have betrayed, whom You have allowed to be tortured, butchered, gassed, burned, what do they do? They pray before you!” (Night, New York, Discus/Avon Books, 1969, p. 79)… In the German-language edition of Night (Die Nacht zu begraben, Elischa [Ullstein, 1962]), on 14 occasions the word “crematory” or “crematories” has been falsely given as “Gaskammer” (“gas chamber[s]”)”

    From:
    A Prominent False Witness: Elie Wiesel
    https://codoh.com/library/document/858/

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  305. There once were some jews from Berlin
    Said to be great purveyors of sin
    Onkel Adolf they crossed
    Into camps were they tossed
    but no lampshade was made from thier skin

  306. ivan says:
    @utu

    I think the photos at Bergen-Belsen were also artfully faked. They brought in Margaret Bourke-White, a bespoke propagandist for Communist causes to take the photos. Apparently simple immediate picture-taking would not make it to Time-Life as documentary evidence. I am not saying that no one died at that camp, but this constant deference to the propaganda value of images vitiates much of the “documentary evidence”.

  307. ivan says:
    @snag

    It bears repeating that when AI Solzhenitsyn was berated for the that set of photos in Gulag Archipelago I that showed the administrators of the Volga Canal camp, all of them Jews – Berman, Frankel etc, he merely responded that he simply took the photos from the camp records.

    Joe Stalin, was not above using the hatred some of these Talmudists had for the Gentiles for his own purpose. He packed all the administrators of the occupied European countries with these type of people, perhaps knowing full well that when the time came for them to be sent to the camps in their turn , no one would shed a tear and many may even applaud Stalin for getting rid of the fellows that he had himself placed there, in the first place.

    • Replies: @snag
  308. anarchyst says:

    From an engineering and logistical standpoint, NONE of the claims made by holocaust™ “survivors” and promoters is possible.

    –Killing jews with “bug spray” (Zyklon B) is not only impossible, but is laughable on its face.

    –Transporting jews to “camps”, utilizing scarce energy sources, transportation and logistical difficulties only to kill them is not only problematic but impossible as well.

    –Tattooing camp inmates only to kill them is also problematic.

    –If the “camps” were truly “death camps” why would medical facilities, recreational facilities, brothels, movie theaters, and other amenities be needed?

    –“Gas chambers” with non-sealed wooden doors and the lack of ventilation systems for such facilities, once again, disproves the claims made by holocaust™ promoters. Doors that “swing the wrong way” would make retrieval of the bodies impossible. Ordinary light fixtures, rather than explosion proof lighting fixtures are claimed to have been the norm.

    –Claims by holocaust™ promoters that gassed bodies were blue or green (rather than bright red) from poisoning are totally false.

    –Claims that the inmates could tell when jews were being cremated by the color of smoke emitted from the crematoria chimneys are patently foolish and false.

    –Let’s not forget “lampshades, wallets, soap and shrunken heads” (oh my) made from jews is also laughable,

    –Crematoria running 24 hours a day, without “downtime” for maintenance on the muffles and flames “visible out of the crematoria stacks” are also impossibilities.

    Crematoria are designed to burn “clean” with no visible smoke and definitely no flames outside the stacks would be possible.

    Not only that, the claims that thousands of bodies were cremated daily are a statistical impossibility as it takes approximately 1.5 hours to cremate a human body.

    If cremation were used on “6 million” jews, the cremation process would have been operating into the 1950s.

    –The lack of depositories for bodies and ashes is more proof that the “camps” were not “death camps” but rather “work camps” for the German war effort.

    –Anne Frank’s “diary” partially written with a ball-point pen which was not invented till the 1950s. Time travel, anyone? lol

    Germans were (and still are) excellent engineers and would not have engineered the grievous errors that are claimed by holocaust promoters.

    Follow the shekels…

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
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  309. @refl

    “This thing started, because someone asked Königsberg to be returned, which is nonsensical…”

    You don’t read very carefully, nor can you back up your claim, so you certainly haven’t explained yourself adequately.

    In contradicting a specific assertion Shamir had made, I said in comment #46, that Russia needs to vacate this illegally occupied territory to ease tensions in the Baltic region. By remaining in the territory that Russia had no historical claim to, prior to its violent takeover in 1945, in violation of already existing and subsequently enhancd international norms, they continue to perpetuate their Stalinist legacy, thus showing off their true colors, which many credulous people are oblivious to. Ask yourself why Stalingrad and Leningrad have been renamed, but not Kaliningrad.

    Somebody else then brought up the topic of returning the territory, which happens to be closer to Germany than it is to Russia. Though there is a strong case to be made for a return to Germany, which Yeltsin had proposed through secret channels, and Putin, to my knowledge, has not categorically precluded, the matter should be left for Germany, Poland, and Lithuania to work out together. The fact that there are hardly any Germans still living there nowadays is basically irrelevant.

    What exactly is “nonsensical“? Are you advocating for Russia to remain in that military enclave indefinitely? If so, on what legal basis, given that this occupied land was not officially ceded to them in the wake of the Potsdam conference in 1945, nor in the so-called 2+4 Agreement in 1990? Do you advocate that Israel continue to occupy Jerusalem (east and west), the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and enclose Gaza by controlling its peripheral boundaries?

    • Replies: @FB
  310. @Robjil

    Agree completely.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  311. FB says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    Everything you said is bullshit…every single point…really not worth even responding to…but if you do have any credible sources to back up any of your claims then go ahead and produce it…

    The enclave is legally part of Russia…also morally and ethically considering the huge Russian loss of life from the Nazi aggression…they paid for it in blood…

    But the bottom line is that pissants like you can go on about it for the next thousand years…but unless you can take that piece of land by force it will remain forever Russian…

    • Troll: L.K
  312. @FB

    …if you do have any credible sources to back up any of your claims then go ahead and produce it…

    As you recall, my first post at this site, in April 2018, was about this topic, and since then I have provided plenty of explanation and sources, so I am not going to repeat myself, given that the information is one or two clicks away.

    …but unless you can take that piece of land by force it will remain forever Russian…

    This relatively small territory could be taken in less than a day, probably overnight, and Russia would not risk a big war over it either because they know it is not their land. It would be smarter to negotiate an orderly withdrawal.

    • Replies: @awry
    , @Avery
    , @FB
  313. snag says:
    @ivan

    Gulags – A forced labor camp system in reality a death camp system was more horrible than Auschwitz run by Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel (founders) their buddies Lev Inzhir a commissar of the Gulag transit and administration, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, were the commissars of camps and slave labor that supervised the construction of the Belomorsk Canal and other projects responsible for at least 40 million worked/starved to death “enemies” of the revolution.

    The gulag system pre-dates over 2 decades the death camps build by nazis.

    • Replies: @ivan
  314. Pandour says: • Website

    Watched a portrayal of Auschwitz on RTL recently.Even the crudest Soviet propaganda pales in comparison.

  315. @anarchyst

    Many Jews were killed in countries in which they resided and they weren’t all transported to the camps.

    –If the “camps” were truly “death camps” why would medical facilities, recreational facilities, brothels, movie theaters, and other amenities be needed?

    How about partly to fool the Red Cross? Those figures of deaths originally given by the ICRC could be way off as the ICRC has come out more recently that it was fooled by the Nazis:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/19/us/red-cross-admits-knowing-of-the-holocaust-during-the-war.html

    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4870/f49b5e78efca20c9899720d487a69c211783.pdf

    The Nazis went to great lengths to fool the ICRC, even building a fake ghetto and camp.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5154971/Nazis-built-fake-town-concentration-camp-fool-world.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresienstadt_Ghetto_and_the_Red_Cross

    Even some (I’m not saying all) of those photos of well fed and happy Jewish inmates and children in concentration camps could/would have been Germans dressed up in prison uniforms, and such could also have replaced the real inmates during ICRC visits. The first casualty of war is the truth and there is no indication that the Nazis would have been any more honest than anyone else or shown everything to the Red Cross and supplied them with true data.

    And how about this book first published in 1946, long before publishing Holocaust books became an industry, by an unassuming Romanian/Hungarian Jewish doctor who never sought fame and fortune in the West, even though rescued by US troops, but retired in Romania where he died in 1956?

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/315578.Auschwitz

    I can’t see that Miklós Nyiszli would have had any other motivation but to leave a testament of his days working in Auschwitz as Dr. Mengele’s assistant. And he wrote it immediately after the war while his experiences were still fresh in his mind, unlike those other authors who published much later, such as Ellie Wiesel and his Night.

    Just because some real or fake Jewish inmates published lies, it doesn’t mean that all the books are fraudulent. The definitive eyewitness book on Auschwitz is the one by Dr. Menegele’s assistant, Miklós Nyiszli.

  316. @NPleeze

    Christianity invented by Jews as a tool enabling Jews to rule the world? Bad logic, I think.

  317. anarchyst says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Germans were (and still are) meticulous when it comes to keeping documentation and records.

    The ICRC had unfettered access to all of the camps. The ICRC of the day most certainly would have reported irregularities and questionable activities within the camps.

    Let’s not forget that today’s ICRC is heavily influenced by jewish holocaust™ interests and could easily claim that their figures were not accurate in order to satisfy the holocaust™ lobby. The last thing the holocaust™ lobby wants exposed is the TRUTH.

    I don’t buy the explanation that Germans dressed up as camp inmates to “fool” the ICRC inspectors. Where would they hide the jews who they “replaced”?

    Germany’s own policies and records of the day proscribed severe punishment for abuse of the residents. In fact, jewish “kapos” who ran the day-today operations were given much more “leeway” than the German camp administrators. Jewish “kapos” rewarded their friends and punished their enemies within the camp system…

    Nope, the holocaust™ story is unraveling as the years pass by. It is indeed “the hoax of the 20th century”.

    Regards,

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @snag
  318. snag says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Everybody knew, the Allies, the zionist brass in Palestine and the Jewish Council in Switzerland.

    The Polish hero who volunteered to go to Auschwitz — and warned the world about the Nazi death machine
    ————————————–
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/01/26/pilecki-auschwitz-polish-resistance/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-polish-hero-who-volunteered-to-go-to-auschwitz-and-warned-the-world-about-the-nazi-death-machine/ar-BBZl371

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Vrba

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  319. awry says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    They have nukes there for a reason.

  320. snag says:
    @anarchyst

    In regard to this holocaust™

    The most renowned holocaust researcher Raul Hilberg (Jew) had a problem to confirm 5 million that’s why him and his work ‘The Destruction of the European Jews’ was blacklisted in Israel and wasn’t published in English elsewhere for many years and I would have to check if was it translated to Hebrew.

    Written with support, published with difficulties[edit]”Hilberg began his study of the Holocaust leading to The Destruction while stationed in Munich in 1948 for the U.S. Army’s War Documentation Project. He proposed the idea for the work as a PhD. dissertation and was supported in this by his doctoral advisor, Columbia University professor Franz Neumann.While the dissertation won a prize, Columbia University Press, Princeton University Press, Oklahoma University Press, as well as Yad Vashem all declined to publish it. It was eventually published by a small publishing company, Quadrangle Books. This first edition was published in an unusually small type. Much of the page count increase of later versions is due to being published in a conventional type size. This was not the end of Hilberg’s publishing woes. It was not translated until 1982, when Ulf Wolter of the small leftist publishers Olle & Wolter in Berlin published a German translation. For this purpose the work was enlarged by about 15%, so that Hilberg spoke of a “second edition”, “solid enough for the next century”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

    There’s a list in Yad Vashem with little over 3 million names on it with many of them repeated twice unchanged despite that the German archives are open for scholars since 2007.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anarchyst
  321. Avery says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    {…could be taken…}

    By which country?
    Germany?
    Poland?

    {…and Russia would not risk a big war over it either }

    How do you know that?

    UK sent a whole armada to the other side of the world to re-claim Falkland Islands, which btw is only “theirs”, because they took it a while back. UK certainly does not need the Falklands for any strategic value: they did it for the principle.

    So what makes you think Russia would just give it up?
    It is a small territory, but its strategic value (location) to Russia’s defense is enormous.

    • Replies: @ivan
  322. FB says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    This relatively small territory could be taken in less than a day, probably overnight, and Russia would not risk a big war over it…

    That is some major league wishcasting…

    As for clicking through your dreck to find your supposed source…that too is not realistic…

    I’m pretty sure there is a troll army at work here on the Kaliningrad issue…I notice this from time to time on this site…even though no article on Kaliningrad has ever appeared here…

    Usually I don’t bother responding to such obvious trolls…but what the heck, today I feel like crushing a little cockroach underfoot…

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  323. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    Very interesting revelations Mike…I wasn’t aware of those potemkin village ‘death camps’…

  324. anarchyst says:
    @snag

    One would think that the jews would be happy that “6 million” (a suspect false figure) did not perish, but NO. The jews don’t want to see their “cash cow” end…

  325. ivan says:
    @snag

    According to some posting here all these gulags were nothing more than boot camps run for the moral well being of the inmates.

  326. anarchyst says:
    @snag

    At Ernst Zundel’s “show trial” in Canada, Raul Hilberg was forced to admit that there is NOT ONE DOCUMENT advocating the extermination of jews–NOT ONE DOCUMENT.
    The holohoax is collapsing under its own lies.

  327. @FB

    “…I feel like crushing a little cockroach underfoot…”

    Translation:
    …I feel like putting on an irrational drama display to let everyone know that I have no valid counterargument.

  328. ivan says:
    @Avery

    The Falklands have some strategic value. It makes the UK one of the countries with an interest in the Antarctica. In any case the Argentinians being another colony of Spain are in the same position as the Falklands a colony of the UK. They have no moral rights over the Falklands that I can think of.

  329. Pandour says: • Website

    If some one million inmates were killed in Auschwitz,that means that 50 were killed and cremated every hour during five years working 25-7,a logistical impossibility,particularly if one takes into consideration the technology of the time.The most up-to date-crematorium requires two hours to cremate a 150 -pound body.One hour is needed for it to cool off before it receives another body.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @snag
  330. snag says:
    @Pandour

    Correction !

    First transports of Jews started in mid 1942 and ended in 1944. Germans abandoned Auschwitz-Birkenau camps 01.17.1945, that’s makes 2.5 years not 5.

    • Replies: @Pandour
  331. awry says:

    The Holocaust is the state religion of the post-modern West. It has all the criteria of a state religion including the following:
    – has priests (official “historians” and writers, filmmakers), sainted martyrs, sacred places (Auschwitz, Yad Vashem, Holocaust museums and memorials), rituals, dogmas
    – everyone from king to peasant must pledge their allegiance to it
    – the heretics are not burned as we are more civilized now, but are punished by exclusion from “good” society at the least
    – public criticism of the faith is forbidden
    – It’s based on the idea of sacrifice (“burning sacrifice” is the meaning of “holocaust”) and on that the victims survived the unsurvivable, which is just as if they were resurrected from the dead.
    – But this religion does not preach peace, love, forgiveness. It preaches “never forgive”, eternal vengeance, cherishes revenge fantasies (cf. the movie Inglorious Basterds etc.) It speaks about tolerance, but also about how heresy is not to be allowed to be tolerated, never, ever, anywhere because that is the evil.

  332. @Wally

    Wally proves his bad intentions here when he tries to use Elie Wiesel as proof of his (Wally’s) expertise on Holocaust lore and Holocaust falsity. Wally might have read one book by Wiesel – “Night” – and otherwise relies on cherry-picking a paragraph here or there out of context from known revisionists . These revisionists (except for Berg, now deceased, who also only read “Night”) do not agree with, or affirm, Wally’s position that all A-B prisoners had the choice to go on the march or stay behind.

    The most authoritative knowledge on Elie Wiesel is found at https://eliewieseltattoo.com. Elie’s autobiography “All Rivers Run to the Sea” is a somewhat more accurate version of his Auschwitz experience; “Night” is fiction, written to support Israel and the Zionist cause.

    I pretty much agree with Seraphim’s and FNT’s replies. As for Beefcake, there are a lot bigger problems with the Official Narrative than Primo Levi’s remaining in the Auschwitz infirmary. If Elie Wiesel and his father were actually there, they could have remained with Primo Levi. Why didn’t Levi ever mention he was in the hospital with Elie Wiesel, after EW had become famous? Check out this article; Mel Mermelstein is another one who never mentioned knowing ElieWiesel in Bucchenwald: http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-wiesel-was-unknown-to-mel-mermelstein-in-the-buchenwald-camp/

    The only reference in the book to Elie Wiesel is on page x, prior to the Forward, where it [quotes] a statement made by Professor Elie Wiesel of Boston University. So apparently the author knew of Professor Wiesel at the time he wrote the book.

    But nothing more. My position is that Elie and his father did not go on the march to Gleiwitz since they were NEVER IN BUCHENWALD. When it comes to Elie Wiesel, we’re dealing with an Alice in Wonderland situation. http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/?s=elie+in+buchenland

  333. @Theodore

    What you are not clear about, Theodore, is that A Prominent False Witness is not written by Wiesel but by Robert Faurisson in 1993, and the quote is taken from a discussion about “Night” written in 1969.

    After Wiesel wrote and published “Night” in 1958, the talking/writing about gas chambers began to gain ground. Realizing he missed the boat on that, he began mentioning gas chambers now and then, here and there, but never very much, probably because he didn’t want to contradict his book ‘Night.’

    Seraphim is referring to the only book that most people connect with Wiesel, his first book ‘Night’, and therefore is stating the truth. And it is an important truth.

    • Replies: @Theodore
  334. @Commentator Mike

    The Nazis went to great lengths to fool the ICRC, even building a fake ghetto and camp.

    This is a total lie. The Daily Mail (your source) specializes in lies, as does Wikipedia when it come to the Holy Holocaust of the Jews.

  335. aandrews says:

    Fake Liberation Photos: Anne Frank’s Step-Sister Admits It was All a Giant Con

    Frei
    Daily Stormer
    January 29, 2020

    On British television Monday morning, Anne Frank’s step-sister admitted it was all a giant con.

    Daily Mail:

    A Holocaust survivor has claimed that photos showing the liberation of Auschwitz aren’t real, because none were taken at the concentration camp.

    Anne Frank’s step-sister Eva Schloss, 90, who was sent to the notorious camp in Nazi-occupied Poland at the age of 15, appeared on Good Morning Britain today to discuss the 75th anniversary of its liberation.

    Eva was 23-years-old when her mother Fritzi married Otto Frank, making her the posthumous stepsister to Anne Frank, who had died eight years earlier in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945.

    She spent eight months at Auschwitz before the camp was liberated, and avoided being taken on a death march by the Nazis who fled with prisoners to try to cover up their crimes, because she and her mother overslept and were left behind.

    Wow, getting out of a death march just by oversleeping? The game must have been on Easy mode. And “taken on a death march by the Nazis to cover up their crimes”? Does that make any sense? Must have been like the death march Elie Wiesel went on but somehow didn’t die from, the one where he voluntarily preferred to go with his evil Nazi oppressors rather than wait for his Soviet liberators to show up. (Shortly before going to the nearest big town with his camp mates to find some German girls to rape.)

    […]

  336. renfro says:
    @FB

    ”But you clowns that completely overblow and distort the true nature of the relationship are like a broken record…even if simple logic and known facts dictate otherwise”…

    There has been enough published on UNZ and in UNZ threads for you to have learned from….and I dont mean the silly bad Jews rants…I mean FACTUAL, CREDITABLE info with EVIDENCE, OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS and TESTIMONY from people on the ground and present at some major betrayals damaging to America by the Jewish tribe and Israel.

    I could take your comment paragraph by paragraph and mark every one of them Wrong and give the reasons why.

    But I am not going to waste my time because I don’t think you are capable of accepting the objective truth. And ‘little guys ‘, as you say , always lose because they don’t want to expend any energy on finding the truth….all their beliefs and opinions on everything are colored by whatever their main resentment or gripe in life is..the elites, whoever or whatever.

    You cant take in new information and are way behind in history and the main actors that have brought the US to its decline and waste. If anyone is a broken record it is those of you who are going to ”believe what they believe’ despite all evidence to the contrary.

  337. Pandour says: • Website
    @snag

    Auschwitz was activated in 1940 and the first prisoners were German criminals.There were Soviet and Polish POWs there in 1941.The Soviets in 1989 released the 46 volume Auschwitz death registry which fell into their hands in January 1945 which records the deaths of some 69,000 Auschwitz inmates.The volumes partially cover the years 1941, 1942 and 1943-the death certificates are very detailed,including cause of death.Of the total number 29,125 were Jewish,the largest number were Roman Catholics-31,814.I do see your point.

    • Replies: @snag
  338. Jewish Autonomous Oblast

    “Article 65 of the Constitution of Russia provides that the JAO is Russia’s only autonomous oblast. It is one of two official Jewish territories in the world, the other being Israel. “

    I love this statement:

    “At its height in the late 1940s, the Jewish population in the region peaked at around 46,000–50,000, around 25% of the entire population.”

    The soviets, glorious commanders of the glorious “red army” that liberated Auschwitz, had already stolen the indigenous lands and given it to the jews to create their own new jerusalem. The jews, even after all this land theft, left for Israel.

    Today, this oblast is still a “jewish enclave” even though barely 1% are jewish. Jews have already forced Spain and Portugal to grant them instant citizenship due to their past “anti-semitic” transgressions. Clearly, jews also have a bolt hole in Asia. We can be certain that all the good land and resources are in talmudic hands.

    The JAO flag.

    Putin is just another yid stooge like all the rest. Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, Obama, Johnson, Merkel, Trump, etc

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @snag
  339. @Ship Track

    Ship Track,

    No, the fag flag is not the flag of Birobidzhan (disinformation on www I came across myself). The real flag is:

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  340. snag says:
    @Ship Track

    Another example and another failure to survive on their own: Clarion, Utah.
    ———————-
    https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=52535744&itype=CMSID

    “They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race” – Ben Franklin

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  341. snag says:
    @Pandour

    There were some Jews in Auschwitz before mid 1942 but not because there were Jews* but because they were caught in roundups in government institutions, on the streets or trains used by food smugglers, etc. Some of them, mostly the criminals became a kapos and helped the Germans to run the camp.

    At the end of April 1941 Germans started relocating dwellers of Brzezinka and surrounding villages to make a space for Birkenau Camp and Auschwitz-Birkenau camp complex.

    The camp reserved for Jews was Birkenau not Auschwitz.

    *Many of them had Polish names.

    • Replies: @Pandour
  342. @Commentator Mike

    The flag I posted was from wikipedia, check the link.

    The one you put up was for “Birobidzhan is a town and the administrative center of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan

    What’s the problem here? You are resisting the idea that part of the jewish plan to genocide all other races is globohomo disco?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  343. Pandour says: • Website
    @snag

    The fatalities in the mentioned death registers were listed by religious affiliation-29,125 or 42,8 per cent were described as members of the Mosaic religion.The total number of fatalities in the lists is 68,684.The reality,of which you are doubtless aware, is that since the Boer war,the overwhelming majority of those who died in concentration camps perished from disease.Auschwitz is no exception.Who today remembers Spanish concentration camps in Cuba where upwards of 200,000 perished from disease and famine in less than two years.

  344. @Ship Track

    Ship Track,

    I agree you are right and thanks for correcting me. It seems I was confused between the region and the city. I wonder when the fag flag was adopted, if during Stalin’s time or more recently.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  345. @snag

    I have been thinking about the jews in Clarion all day. My ancestors were Mormons, who pushed a cart from St. Louis to Salt Lake City in 1860. The family arrived in a few waves, all with great challenges. My great grandfather and mother lost 3 children to floods, snake bite and fever. They were forced to settle desert, these Clarion jews were given land close to SLC and water.

    These Jews arrived in 1911, by railroad. There were cars and roads, mail, telegraph and likely soon telephone. It was 2 years before the Fed was founded, three years before the war for Israel that would make American farmers rich.

    Just as with 9/11, their Rabbis knew what was going to happen.

    • Replies: @snag
  346. @Commentator Mike

    no problemo. I find it astounding how jews have arranged bolt holes for themselves all across the planet. Its as if they some knew that the goyim would always end up hating them.

    Stalin also offered the jews, or more correctly the Ashkenazi, Crimea. When we look at the unending screeching and kvetching from Jews about how Crimea is part of Ukraine, we can see their true agenda.

    Ukraine=Kazaria. Gods Chosen=Ashkenazi.

    That the Sephardic jews haven’t figured this out yet is proof that at least they are not more intelligent than the goyim who are also under Ashkenazi mind control.

    • Replies: @snag
    , @snag
  347. @utu

    Anne Frank’s step-sister… claims photos of the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz are FAKE

    Uh oh. I hope she doesn’t get prison time for that revisionist talk.

  348. snag says:
    @Ship Track

    Because most of them are born parasites with a disdain for work and like every parasite they depend on host, that’s why they keep West Bank concentration camp in Palestine to have a semi slaves that they depend on and outsource the work that keeps the healthy society afloat.

    They failed because there was no one to screw and they had to work to stay alive.

    Same thing in Birobidzhan where the natives were living of hunting and foraging like centuries ago and the Chinese were little smarter than naive Goyim trained by their religion from the crib to forgive and turn the other cheek. Sorry but it doesn’t work with them as neighbors.

    If there was an enemy on your border they are going to stab you in the back and blame you for it.

    How many times did you hear or read that the damn Goyim didn’t let them own a farmland or locked them in ghettos?

    Well nobody stopped them to lease few acres and work on it like the Germans or Poles they didn’t own it either. On the end I would like to ask who stopped them to own a farm or locked them in ghettos in Americas or in Australia?

    Have a good one.

  349. snag says:
    @Ship Track

    An ethnic cleansing of Crimean Tatars it was Kaganovich idea. He was the one that conceived and implemented in 1956 with his hand picked goons. They murdered half of the population on the spot, the remaining was shipped to Gulags and other God forsaken places in Siberia and re-populate Crimea with Jewish settlers.

    It didn’t work, in 1948 during Golda Mayer’s visit to Soviet Union Stalin was watching around 100.000 ‘commie’ Jews greeting her on the streets of Moscow and that was the day he decided to thin out his commie paradise of weeds and that was the day when the post WWII purges of Jewish brass started not only in Soviet Union but shortly after in Soviet dominated countries.

    There’s a great book on the market From Yahweh to Zion promoted also here on UNZ I suggest you read it . https://www.amazon.com/Yahweh-Zion-Jealous-Promised-Civilizations/dp/0996143041

  350. Theodore says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    It is quite obvious that I am not quoting Wiesel as the quoted text refers to him by name, and if someone clicks the link they will see it is from Faurisson. And the quote shows that his book did not mention gas chambers at all, but only briefly mentioned gassings when he supposedly asked his God why he let people be “tortured, butchered, gassed, burned” … yet in the German translation of the book, the word “Crematoria” was changed to “Gas chamber.”

    So the German-translated version of the book DOES mention gas chambers, but only deceptively in that manner. Is that specific line where he says “gassed” changed in the 1969 English version compared to the 1960 version [first published English edition]?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  351. @Theodore

    Wiesel asking God why he let people be “tortured, butchered, gassed, burned” is NOT equivalent to mentioning the presence and use of homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz. The fact remains that Wiesel failed to mention gas chambers in his book “Night.”

    The German translation of the book came some time after the French and English. By then it had been noticed that the gas chambers were missing. So the German translator (under whose authority?) MISTRANSLATES “crematoria” as “gas chamber” — totally fraudulent. It can’t be said, as you seem to want to suggest, that Elie Wiesel wrote ‘gas chamber’ in the German translation – that’s nonsense. He didn’t.

    This is what Christine Miller, a German who lived through the war in Germany as a girl, wrote at http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-wiesels-night-makes-western-man-irrational-gasses-all-logic/

    In the English translation there are no gas chambers. “When he (Bela Katz) heard of our arrival, he managed to get word to us that, having been chosen for his strength, he himself put his father’s body into the crematory oven.” In the German translation it reads: “Als er von unserer Ankunft erfuhr, liess er uns sagen, dass er wegen seiner In the Koeperkraft dem Sonderkommando zugeteilt und dadurch gezwungen worden sei, seinen eigenen Vater in die Gaskammer zu schieben.” In the German translation “Nacht”, all the crematory ovens of “Night” are turned into gas chambers. Western man has been made irrational. That was a necessity, otherwise he [western man] could not have been made to believe in the absurdities of the Holocaust lore.

    As to your final question: No it is not changed, those are the words in the 1960 edition.

    • Replies: @Theodore
  352. Robjil says:
    @FB

    It is stupid. Why would Russia give back this land when the west demonizes Russia so much?

    It just gives ZUS more land to terrorize Russia.

    There is no Free, Independent Europe now to give it to.

    The Zion Macht Frei gate descended down all around ZUS controlled Europe after the Cold War ended.

    Poland and Hungary are brave nations who at least are protesting a bit about the Zion Macht Frei gate surrounding ZUS controlled Europe.

    Kaliningrad would not be in a good hands with ZUS ruling the roost in Europe now.

    ZUS Germany jails anyone from anywhere in the world who questions the Zion mandated version of the big 6. The set term for it is five years in solitary confinement. Does that seem like good or rational nation to hand Kaliningrad to? It like Galileo trials on steroids.

  353. Theodore says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    So the German translator (under whose authority?) MISTRANSLATES “crematoria” as “gas chamber” — totally fraudulent. It can’t be said, as you seem to want to suggest, that Elie Wiesel wrote ‘gas chamber’ in the German translation – that’s nonsense. He didn’t.

    How do we know the mistranslation was done with Wiesel’s consent? Wiesel spoke German.
    I did not try to suggest anything. I merely pointed out that the German edition (which was a translation) had the word “crematoria” replaced with “gas chamber”. Did he complain and demand it be fixed?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  354. @Theodore

    This came pretty late, so I missed it. Who is going to read it now … but I’ll answer you anyway. Maybe you will.

    “How do we know the mistranslation was done with Wiesel’s consent? Wiesel spoke German.”

    I didn’t say that, and it doesn’t matter, which is why I didn’t need to say it. Wiesel’s “consent” has nothing to do with it. It’s that the “Elie Wiesel Industry” and Lobby, particularly in the so very Pro-Holocaust-Anti-German Germany of today, wants to keep Wiesel viable. At least, the translator was acting in conformity with that wish. These people (and type of people) will do anything, they have no shame, and they pretty much get away with it.

    BTW, I don’t mean to imply that “mistranslate” means it was a mistake. It was certainly intentional. No translator could possibly make such a mistake. I wonder why you argue over this so much.

  355. Cking says:

    Stalin was a master manipulator, getting Hitler to invade Poland per the terms of the Russian, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact; it was paramount that Stalin look innocent and the Chief of the Bolshevik Liberators who gobbled up Poland and half of Europe. And it was the Red Army that first discovered Auschwitz and broadcast its legend that is starting to fray now.

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