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Israeli elections are a movable feast. The fourth round is over, and they already anticipate the fifth, perhaps in August. The Israelis just can’t form a stable government. They’ve got the Italian merry-go-round virus of unstable governments. Italians get a new government at an average of one every thirteen months. The Israeli mutation of the Italian virus has its own peculiarity. The Italians can form a minority government; in Israel, if there is no majority for the government, new elections are automatically called for. Now thirteen parties have entered the parliament, but it will not be easy to make a government coalition based on a parliamentary majority.

Why can’t they form a government? They do not differ much. With few exceptions, Israeli politicians and their parties are of one mold: they are Right or far-Right; strongly nationalist, and neoliberal somewhere between the John Birch Society and the KKK. The problem is that the party leaders hate each other, and they don’t want to accept Palestinians even as junior partners in their government. And without Palestinians, none can achieve a parliamentary majority.

The bulk of Palestinians have no Israeli citizenship, like the American Indians had no US citizenship. Still, almost two million Palestinians are citizens of Israel, and are entitled to vote; they make up 20 per cent of all Israeli citizens. Yet they are kept out of the decision-making. In the previous elections, the Palestinian parties joined together and won 15 seats in the Parliament. All pretenders for the office of prime minister refused to accept them as partners, and resigned hereby setting off the new tour of elections. In the most recent elections, the Palestinian vote was divided between (1) Communists and Arab Nationalists who would love to join a leftist government and (2) a conservative Muslim party perfectly willing to join Netanyahu government together with other Jewish religious parties. Even so, right-wing Jews refuse to join with right-wing Arabs, and left-wing Jews refuse to accept left-wing Arabs. The Jews don’t want to sit with goyim around the same table.

They have other self-imposed limitations, too. Some don’t want to sit with religious Jews. Some are of the “Never Netanyahu” persuasion. Once upon a time in Israel there were left-wing and right-wing parties with their own ideologies; now they are divided by one question, namely whether Benjamin Netanyahu, nicknamed Bibi, will be the prime minister again.

Bibi has ruled Israel since 1996 intermittently. During the breaks, he held various top posts. Israeli liberals hate him, just like their American brethren hate Trump. They curse the stupid deplorables who stubbornly continue to vote for Bibi. The well-off and educated Israelis despise Bibi. The Israeli liberals considered the removal of Trump as a cue for them: if Trump was overthrown, now is the time to overthrow Bibi, they thought. But popular vote is not decisive enough.

The Bibi Hate Complaint is an Israeli twin of Trump Derangement Syndrome. At a Passover Seder table, good Israelis called on God to punish Bibi like He punished the Pharaoh, and re-tweeted their curses. They want to get rid of Bibi by fair means (elections) or foul (legal tricks). The judiciary system is in the hands of the liberals, and has been weaponised against Bibi. He certainly is a criminal and deserves to be sentenced for life for his bombing of Gaza and Syria, but Israeli judges are unlikely to consider those actions a crime.

Israel’s judicial system is the most rotten part of the Jewish state. They have sanctioned the use of torture, ethnic cleansing, confiscation of Palestinian lands and homes, the expulsion of Palestinians, and have approved the bombing of Gaza and Lebanon. There was no war crime or crime against humanity committed in Israel that did not receive the approval and blessing of the judiciary. Even for straightforward mass murder, the Israeli court had sentenced the murderer to a fine of ten cents! The courts have declared all the state lands of Palestine to be the property of the Jewish people. They have also allowed the construction of Jewish settlements on Palestinian lands, and the indefinite imprisonment for Palestinian parliamentarians. The judges are as unfair and dishonest as in the US.

The actual charges being brought against Netanyahu are as hollow as those against Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Bibi is accused of accepting gifts – cigars and pink champagne – from Arnon Milchan, the Hollywood producer (L.A. Confidential), tycoon and spy for Israel. The prosecutor’s office has never been able to prove Bibi did something in return for this unheard-of generosity that he wouldn’t have done unless bribed with bubbly. Another case accused Bibi of trying to make the mass media less hostile to him. If this is a crime, all politicians are criminals!

They want to send Bibi to jail, and any reason will do. Bibi understands this, and stubbornly clings to power. It is one thing to peacefully step down to a well-deserved retirement, and it is another thing to go to prison for several years. Thus, Bibi fights for his freedom, and the only way to do that is to form a government. He passed the first obstacle: the president empowered him to try and gather a coalition. That wasn’t an easy thing: newspapers (as hostile to him as the New York Times is hostile to Trump) tried to persuade the president to give the mandate to somebody else. Now he is almost within reach of forming a new government, but this tantalising almost may still be his undoing. He has to convince the religious Jew, Naphtali Bennett, and religious-conservative Muslim, Mansour Abbas, to join him.

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However, there is no real choice for the voters; the potential candidates for the prime minister’s office aren’t all that different. The once all-powerful Israeli Left alliance made up of Social Democrats, immigrants from Eastern Europe and the Russian Empire, strong nationalists like the interregnum Polish socialists of Marshal Pilsudski— has collapsed. One part of them switched to LGBT support, the other – to the fight against the grammatical gender of possessive pronouns, the third – to the fight against religion and religious Jews. The ‘support of workers and peasants’ has completely disappeared from their agenda, for it’s migrant workers from Thailand who do the peasant work in the Jewish state, while the industrial workers are Ukrainian and Romanian illegal immigrants under the supervision of a Russian guard.

Israel is strongly pro-American, and is likely to remain so. However, Bibi is “friends” with President Putin; he often visits Russia; always ready to ask for a favour; he never does anything in return for Russia, but at least he is not overtly hostile. He never fulfils his promises to Russia. However, the alternative potential prime ministers of Israel are even less sympathetic to Russia.

Anti-Semitism

An interesting new development is the rise of Israeli anti-Semitism. Israeli Socialist Zionists were secular but not really hostile to the Jewish faith and faithful. In a recent piece, Miko Peled has stressed the hostility of early Zionists to contemporary non-Zionist Jews. Though true, that was long time ago. This attitude didn’t survive World War Two. Anti-Jewish Zionism (Jewish self-hate, in Peled’s terms) was built on the rise of German National Socialism; if Hitler were to win the war, perhaps this kind of brutal Nietzschean Zionism would become dominant, as the ideological predecessors of Netanyahu, Yair Stern and Yitzhak Shamir had planned. After Germany’s defeat, the whole discourse of Soil and Blood, of Work as opposed to financial speculations, of devotion to Tradition, had been defeated as well. Zionism had to lower its goals, change its vocabulary, and end its hostility to ordinary Jews, warts and all.

After the Jewish state was established, relations between Orthodox (non-Zionist) Jews and Zionist Israelis became, if not fraternal, then quite tolerant, as between, say, ordinary Americans and Mennonites. Ben Gurion promised and granted them the Status Quo arrangement. It worked, more or less, for over 70 years.

Yair Lapid and his Yesh Atid party were secular, perhaps mildly anti-clerical, for years; but pugnacious anti-clericalism in Israel had been started by Avigdor Lieberman, the head of the ‘Russian’ party and a sworn enemy of Netanyahu. Moreover, he began as anti-clerical, but very soon he glided into anti-Semitic tropes. Probably he had thought he would tap a whole new reservoir of votes, of right-wing anti-religious Israelis, and undermine Netanyahu who was always friendly to religious Jews. However, his ruse failed when it came to votes. Yair Lapid took the votes of Israelis who felt strongly about religious laws. But Lieberman’s reckless anti-Jewish talk did have an impact.

The Covid crisis has made anti-Semitism fashionable in Israel. The Orthodox Jews rejected the accepted Coronavirus narrative. They kept their synagogues and schools open; they didn’t observe social distancing and the mask regime. All hell broke loose; even polite people spoke of ‘disease-carrying rodents with long whiskers’, of ‘ugly idle Jews’ that didn’t care about public health and ignored the wise rules of the Corona Tsar de jour. It has become so bad, that a leader of Shas, a religious party of Oriental Jews, has lodged a bill against anti-Semitism, something Israel never before contemplated.

Whilst the Covid crisis impacted all mankind, Israel was a leader in dealing with it; at first by severe lockdowns, and then by massive vaccination. Israeli security services were involved all the way. The Mossad foreign intelligence, with its resources and connections, provided the country with sampling sticks and masks; Israeli intelligence officers were stealing the items ordered by other states and intercepting foreign supplies. An application created by the Israeli security forces tracked all movements and contacts; electronic handcuffs, cynically called “freedom bracelets”, similar to those used for house arrest, have been developed and are being used for those who come from abroad. Israel was the first to enter lockdown, and first to make a deal with Pfizer. Bibi has turned the country with its highly computerised medical care records into an experimental laboratory. Pfizer receives detailed information from Israel on how people with different medical conditions respond to the vaccine. For this, Pfizer supplied Israel with a large number of vaccinations, so that most Israeli adults have already been vaccinated, and now the next step is to vaccinate children and babies. Israel has 35 million doses of vaccine, more than enough for its population. That was the time for the two to fell out. Israelis stopped paying, Pfizer stopped deliver ing. Israel had a good reason: Netanyahu promised to pay Pfizer well over the going rate. Such promises are rarely fulfilled and Jews aren’t famous for sticking to such promises. And anyway Israel has a lot of ampules.

Bibi gave royally generous gifts of the vaccine to the countries and leaders he considered useful, but not to the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza. He even blocked delivery of Russian vaccine to Gaza. The Orthodox Jews also vaccinated, though much less than the secular population. Anyway, since January the Orthodox Jews have far fewer sick people than any other group. They are still persecuted and ‘when an Orthodox Jew gets on a bus everyone looks at him like he’s a leper’, reported Reuters. This schism will last long, probably as long as Covid-related measures, or even longer.

Despite having a very high vaccination rate, Israel is still in the grips of Corona hysterics. The country has been quarantined for almost a year, with short breaks. The airports have been closed down. Vaccination is practically mandatory. The psychological pressure on the unvaccinated is so strong that very few people can withstand it. Without a Green Pass, the digital proof of vaccination, one can’t visit a restaurant or enter a supermarket. The courts have allowed the firing of employees who refuse vaccination. The vaccinated also get sick with covid and they do spread infection. A new strain has emerged that affects adolescents and young people; masks are required everywhere. As the Green Pass is lodged in smartphones, for the first time ever the government has full, real-time control over the population.

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Why did Israel become almost the first country to take Covid so seriously? It is not widely known that Israel is one of the leading countries in the field of bacteriological warfare. The Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona develops deadly bacteria and viruses; there were cases when their effectiveness was tested on Palestinians. We do not know how or where the Covid originated; but the first country affected by Covid (after the outbreak in Wuhan, in China) was Iran, where members of the government fell ill at the same time, with a particularly tough and deadly strain.

Let’s remember that Iran is Israel’s main enemy; Bibi is constantly at war with Iran on all fronts. Dozens of Iranian tankers were blown up by the Israeli saboteurs of Flotilla 13. While the Wall Street Journal reported that a few Iranian tankers had been sabotaged by Israeli frogmen, Israelis were upset and said they sabotaged “dozens”, not just a few. This week they sabotaged the mother ship of the Iranian Navy in the Red Sea. Israeli terrorists kill Iranian scientists and military personnel, Israeli planes bomb pro-Iranian militia bases in Syria. The “choice” of Iran as the first Covid victim makes one wonder whether Israel is, if not behind the creation of Covid, then behind its spread? Ron Unz considered it possible that Covid was a US bioweapon deployed against China. He wrote:

Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran’s top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

Indeed it is possible that Israeli biowarriors knew of the virus, knew of its employment in Iran and China (or even deployed it), and were aware of its danger. Would they, Israelis or Americans, use a bioweapon that could drift to their own countries? Ron Unz deals (ibid) with this question at length. He suggests that they could just be hare-brained and vicious enough. Israelis were short-sighted enough to attack an Iranian tanker in such a place and time that the whole Mediterranean shore of Israel was polluted by spilled oil. “Israel Sabotaged Iranian Ship, Caused Massive Oil Spill on Own Shores” reported Israeli-American investigative journalist Richard Silverstein – “The Israeli mine, which was supposed to cause minor damage, actually ripped a hole so big that much of the contents of the ship’s hold leaked into the Mediterranean. This is what caused the Israeli environmental disaster: Israel itself.” If they could be silly enough for that, they are silly enough for anything.

This week, in an extensive, rare interview, Russian top security man Nikolai Patrushev accused the US of developing bioweapons in Fort Detrick, Maryland and in many labs bordering Russia and China. The same day, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said at the press briefing: “According to openly available reports, the US has set up 16 bio-labs in Ukraine alone. Why does it need to build so many labs all over the world? What activities has the US military been conducting in these labs and the base at Fort Detrick? Why does the US stand alone in opposing the establishment of a verification mechanism under the Biological Weapons Convention? Could it be that there are places within these labs and base where the US dare not allow in international verification?” Before the recent ‘Putin killer’ remark, the Russians and Chinese never said anything that offensive to Americans. It is not impossible that Netanyahu had first-hand knowledge of the Covid danger, and for this reason he acted fast as he did.

Will Israel ever tone down its aggression? Yes, if and when the Jews will grant the right to vote and other rights to the Palestinians living under Jewish rule. Will this happen in our lifetime? How long will the world put up with apartheid? It’s hard to predict. Meanwhile, we should not worry too much about who will rule Israel – it’ll either be Bibi Netanyahu or one of his second-rate clones.

Israel Shamir can be reached at [email protected]

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. Cowboy says:

    Wow what a godawful culture. I’m a pro zionist in the sense it sure would be nice if we could keep all the semitic people over there… social distancing at it’s best.

    • Agree: Trinity, HeebHunter
    • LOL: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Lucy Lipinska
    , @noname27
  2. A123 says:

    The judiciary system is in the hands of the liberals, and has been weaponised against Bibi.

    Israel’s judicial system is the most rotten part of the Jewish state.

    Allowing judges to effectively select their replacements leaves the Israel Courts stuck in a 70’s-80’s frame of reference that has no relevance to current events. Their sympathy with the far left Labor-Gesher movement drives their animus towards Netanyahu.

    Various court observers have noted that the failing judiciary could take Over Three Years to hear the Netanyahu case. Realistically, expect the case to never finish unless the judges feel they have 61+ votes in the Knesset to support their predetermined guilty verdict.

    The Israelis just can’t form a stable government. They’ve got the Italian merry-go-round virus of unstable governments.

    One giant advantage of the Israeli system is that it runs fairly well under a “Caretaker” administration. The technical issues, such as Budget, are inconvenient but manageable.

    The Right, Center, and even Gantz’s Center-Left Blue & White party agree on major policy. The anti-Netnyahu forces are stuck because they cannot form a coalition that includes Far-Left Labour and Extreme-Left Joint Muslim List. This leaves Netanyahu in charge, running the government in a Centrist manner.

    Will Israel ever tone down its aggression? Yes, if and when the Jews will grant the right to vote and other rights to the Palestinians living under Jewish rule.

    The Labor Left idea of integration has failed for 50+ years. At this point it is clear that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea & Samaria [MOJS] are not willing to live peacefully with Palestinian Jews. After decades of terrorist violence, Palestinian Jews have hardened their position and ate not willing to live alongside the MOJS.

    Instead of repeating this proven mistake for *another* generation, why not consider other options? How many Muslim parents would voluntary leave the limited life under Fatah/Hamas corruption if they had an honorable and financially viable route to leave the violence & security restrictions behind?

    A New Muslim Palestine that does not have a land border with Jewish Palestinian (a.k.a. Israel) would allow the two sides to disengage. It is not a 100% solution, but it is a practical path forward given 50+ years of historical conflict.

    How long will the world put up with apartheid? It’s hard to predict.

    Muslim Apartheid targeting Palestine Jews and Christians needs to be denounced. As long as Apartheid Islamic Jihadists are targeting Infidels (Christians & Jews), progress will remain elusive. Blaming the Jewish victims of Muslim war crimes, such as the ludicrous & corrupt ICC sham, makes already poor relations even worse.

    PEACE 😇
     

  3. If COVID-19 is an American bioweapon then its manufacturers must have been targeting Western populations for social engineering purposes, or they are completely stupid. China, Japan, and South Korea have fewer cases than Israel combined according to Johns Hopkins. COVID-19 prefers people with European ancestry.

    Israel’s destruction was planted by its right of return policy which is in conflict with Judaism’s matrilineal proto-racial descent policies. If apartheid doesn’t motivate the world to demand the liberalization of Israel, the growing Russian zera yisrael in its midst will destroy the Jewish ethnic democracy from within for not being Jewish enough for the Jewish ethnic democracy.

  4. A fine article, Mr. Shamir.

    Good Lord, what a mess you describe. It sounds as if Irsrael ie about ready to eat itself up.

    And then there’s this – I don’t know what to make of it, but apparently some Orthodox Israelis think that their Moschiach has finally arrived. Do you know anything about that?

    Video 4,5 minutes:

    • Replies: @Spender_CGB
    , @Ma Laoshi
  5. (1) To help understand Netanyahu’s stitched-up legal difficulties in Israel, it’s helpful to consider a major theme of rebel Canadian Jew Henry Makow, that there is a big but rather masked intra-Jewish conflict beween Soros globalist Jews, and Netanyahu Zionist Jews. Netanyahu is linked to European right-wing nationalists, Soros to the EU mainstream; Trump to Netanyahu, Biden-Harris to Soros, and so on.

    (2) Re what Israel Shamir writes above about Israeli judicial corruption – being horrific and as bad as the USA – exiled Israeli journalist Barry Chamish (1952-2016), wrote a column on a discovery of the late USA conservative judicial figure Robert Bork (1927-2012). Bork apparently had found that much of modern modes of corruption and law-twisting in USA courts, were first tried out in Israel. As Shamir has noted several times, the shift in the West towards dictatorship by courts against the people, is something historically Jewish in nature. Chamish’s article ‘Borked’ is archived here:
    https://www.freemasonrywatch.org/barak.borked.html

    (3) Curiously re ‘non-religious’ Judaism, is that tho secular Jews dump nearly every other religious rule, such as Ben Gurion famously not wearing a kippah (tiny hat) even to a funeral, some Jews eating bacon & pork etc – The one ‘rule’ they don’t dump, is the most awful one, chopping the genitals of baby boys. Jews also sold the circumcision horror to both Muslims, and to USA people cursed by too-many Jewish doctors … The lament of being mutilated for life, is a common 4chan /pol/ theme these days … It seems tho that mutilated-for-life males, are obsessively driven to want to mutilate the next generation.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  6. If you check out the Yeshiva World News videos, with the hate-filled rioting of Israeli orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews against their secular cousins, then look at the multiplicity of Israeli political parties, you can see why they need to brutalise the Palestinians, subvert and sabotage and, occasionally, attack their neighbours and work so assiduously to control Western states. If bereft of goy enemies, they would turn on one another.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
  7. @A123

    Not surprisingly this is rather like an article from Die Sturmer abusing Jews. The convergence between Nazism and Zionism, and Zionazi Jews and their Sabbat Goy stooges, and the German Nazis, grows stronger by the day, although this is an extreme example.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Troll: HeebHunter
  8. Renoman says:

    Some day soon the whole place will be nuked and the World will breath a sigh of relief.

  9. @Renoman

    Wishful thinking. They will nuke Iran and continue bitch slapping the Russians and Chinese. USA #1.

    • Replies: @neutral
  10. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:

    How long will the world put up with apartheid?

    How long will the World put up with the Jews?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  11. Mr Shamir, could you at some point explain the apparent collapse of the Blue and White under Gantz, to those of us not intricately familiar with the Israeli system?

    Gantz seemed honest and sharp to me, and he has an immediately recognizable military bearing that you dont need to even know his biography to identify.. sort of recalls an Eisenhower type.

    Was his polling collapse due to popular opinion that Netanyahu tricked him, or that he bypassed the wishes of the rest of the party to assume the power sharing arrangement in the first place?

    I was genuinely impressed by his blunt but just sounding rhetoric when he said that his nation will fight for itself and not ask anyone else to do so. How is that not considered a serious leadership candidate?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  12. Ron Unz says:

    Israelis were short-sighted enough to attack an Iranian tanker in such a place and time that the whole Mediterranean shore of Israel was polluted by spilled oil. “Israel Sabotaged Iranian Ship, Caused Massive Oil Spill on Own Shores”

    That’s really an excellent analogy that I hadn’t considered. Israel’s entire coast has been polluted by a massive oil spill from an Iranian oil tanker, producing huge popular anger. But it eventually turned out that the spill had been caused by a secret attack by Israeli frogmen on that tanker, which blew a hole in its side.

    In exactly the same way, America has suffered devastating human and economic losses due to the Covid-19 outbreak that originally occurred in Wuhan, but there seems strong perhaps overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    Skeptics argue that even rogue elements of our national security apparatus would never have been so stupid as not to consider the possible consequences of unleashing a dangerous virus. But the Israeli government apparently never considered the possible consequences of blowing a hole in a giant Iranian oil tanker off Israel’s own coast.

  13. @brabantian

    And as an angry “mutilated for life” gentile, who will never experience sex as nature intended, once you realize the evil that was done to you, for no medically necessary reason, you will never get over it. It may help explain why so many circumcised men, living in denial, refuse to think about it, so unthinkingly pass on the barbaric tradition to their baby boys.

    To paraphrase Sigmund Freud, an opponent of the disgusting practice, who kept his sons “intact,” circumcision is at the heart of anti-Semitism. Until it is ended, it will always be thus. And so it goes.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
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  14. “Those who they would destroy, the gods first make mad”. Can Shamir’s descriptions of contemporary I$rael be considered as anything other than a madhouse?

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  15. @follyofwar

    The neuroses and psychoses so plangently described by Mr. Shamir as the current psychological state of the vast majority of “the Chosen” residing in their “promised land” may, more than any other single determinant factor, be attributed to the “unkindest cut”.

    Literally cut off from the warmth, the security and the love of those mothers they have known for but seven days of their short lives; innocent baby boys are seized by the patriarchal assembly and forcibly deprived of their most nerve-rich and sensitive parts of their entire anatomy, their man-hoods.

    Living in Brooklyn and a prominent part of the music man there is a young man whose Jewish parents declined to subject him to the “bris”, to say nothing of the “bris millah”. Thus, he has no existential hunger to be the recipient of emotionally and psychologically healing Hed. The man is intact, both sexually and psycho-sexually.

    • Agree: Lucy Lipinska
    • Thanks: follyofwar
  16. EdNels says:
    @Ron Unz

    [a secret attack by Israeli frogmen on that tanker, which blew a hole in its side.]

    I think the oil Iranian oil tanker was on route to Syria north of Israel some hundreds of miles. If the tanker was mined by frogmen did they do that as it passed off Israel, or at the Suez canal, or was that ship sailed around Africa?

    The plan might have been that it would be detonated on entry its destination there, at port in Syria.

    It could be a technical failure rather than stupidity.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  17. @A123

    Well, well, well. Looky, looky, it’s amazing —actually as easy as one-two-three how the Sayanim/Hasbarfa consortium, enabled by its Mo$$ad handlers; precisely managed to be the THIRD poster(s) on this thread. Hey!! If anyone believes that’s a coincidence, do I have such a deal for YOU. Such a DEAL.

    Possessing papers for the possession of an architectural and civil-engineering marvel of the first water, but currently saddled with the demands of a Nigerian princess who wishes to evade her disagreeable responsibilities and join up in the New World, a more orderly scene than her homeland; I am willing to offer such a deal. Truly, this span, which I offer for the first time ever, built in 1883 and considered as the marvel of the age, crosses the East River between Manhattan and Brooklyn and is utilized by tens of thousands DAILY.

    In order to meet my potentially connubial obligations (and delights) this deal is on the plate for any member of the Sayanim/Hasbarfa/Mo$$ad who can come up with a quick mere million in U$ currency. No checks or credit cards accepted. Be the first in your block of flats to OWN such an edifice, such a DEAL. Hurry, hurry, hurry. The oily bird catches the woim.

    • LOL: JM
  18. @brabantian

    Interesting what you mention in item #1 because when half of America was shell-shocked and having a meltdown after Trump won the 2016 election, I read a couple of commenters on another website talking about how there is a grand power battle going in Jewish power circles.

    It was described as one side being the old guard: Rothschild/Soros/Clinton/Pelosi (some say the last two are crypto. Even if they aren’t, they’re ardent water carriers) VERSUS a newer guard of: Netanyahu/Trump/Adelson, etc.

    Regarding #3, I remain mystified at the ignorance of so many about that issue. They can still have their opinion that it shouldn’t be done but, they ought not be so clueless about why much of the West adopted that practice. Let me be clear: It’s for HYGENIC reasons! Not only for him but also for her. There is plenty of bacteria build-up in the uncircumcised and it creates infections and sometimes causes disease including cancers. Just look it up on the CDC website there is historical documentation about that.

    FollyofWar seems rattled by it (and is incorrect about the “no medical reason for it”) but, let me give him something to be thankful for. If he likes sex he should be glad he’s not uncircumcised. For the simple reason that Western women are not at all used to that and it’s a turn-off (so he’d get less action if he wasn’t). The ick factor is partly for what I mention above and partly just the strangeness. Your parents saved you from those problems!

  19. @Ron Unz

    I’m sure the US government is stupid enough to release “a dangerous virus,” but why hasn’t East Asia suffered from COVID-19 like the rest of the world? It is possible that the US government was too incompetent to develop it so that it would be effective on those populations, or East Asians have superior hygiene compared to everyone else, or it is some other reason. Israel has a comparable proportion of deaths compared to Iran but proportionally it has over 3x the number of cases that Iran has had according to Johns Hopkins’ COVID-19 map. It is possible they released it as a test. A psychopath would find a deadly pandemic exciting, and America is run by psychopaths, so everything could be have been on purpose.

    James Fallon is a neuroscientist who claims to be a psychopath. He took his brother to sleep in a cave for the thrill because he thought it had a deadly virus in it. “He had found out that I had taken him to the abandoned mountain and caves because that is where the deadly Marburg virus was thought to originate. ” So they could have released it for the thrill. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/03/how-i-discovered-i-have-the-brain-of-a-psychopath

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    , @Old and Grumpy
  20. Not Raul says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, speaking of attacks on tankers . . .

    A few years ago Israelis accused Iran of attacking tankers in the Persian Gulf with limpet mines.

    Now the Israelis have attacked an Iranian ship with limpet mines.

    Same modus operandi. How stupid do they think we are?

  21. @A123

    The Labor Left idea of integration has failed

    Labour wasn’t aware it bore the idea of integration)) The Wall was the Labour’s idea, and Separation, too.

    • Replies: @A123
  22. @Ron Unz

    Indeed, Ron, your idea of ‘covid as bioweapon’ makes more and more sense. What could you say to Xi, Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, Merkel so they would go into purdah? “We deployed our bioweapon and it ran out of control”. Such highly confidential information couldn’t be released to people but to leaders only. Probably this is the best plausible explanation for the March 2020 events. And indeed the Iranian tanker story reminded us of Murphy’s Law (“Anything that can go wrong will go wrong”).

    • Replies: @Johan
    , @JasonT
  23. Seraphim says:

    I am pretty sure that I wrote (9 April 2020) that if the Chinese acted so promptly and decisively at the outbreak of the Covid, it was because they treated it as a biological attack, an act of war. They actually said it immediately.
    It is ‘highly likely’ that Netanyahu had inside knowledge:
    ”US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November — TV report”, The Times of Israel, April 16, 2020:
    ‘US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.
    According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.
    Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.
    US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF….
    @https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-alerted-israel-nato-to-disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report//

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  24. @Renoman

    Ecological collapse has reached the point of no return in many parameters such as weather and climate instability, loss of topsoil and groundwater, massive, ubiquitous, pollution of every type, chemical, radionuclide, fossil fuel, depleted uranium, nanoparticles, plastics, GE organisms etc. And then there is economic implosion under unpayable debt and unparalleled inequality, and, finally, we have geopolitical chaos secondary to the West’s long overdue and thoroughly deserved eclipse. With a regime in Thanatopolis DC headed by a demented loon, run by Zionazi Jews and hellbent on attacking Russia and China, we are very near The End. And End, mind you, that millions of deranged ‘Christians’ are praying for.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  25. @Trial by Wombat

    Ganz was just another variety of the stock standard Zionazi elite butcher.

  26. Johan says:

    Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people.

    Oscar Wilde

    Regardless of whether it is Israel, Italy, or any other democratic country.

    • Disagree: Schuetze
    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  27. @Anon

    Stupid and plays into the Zionazis’ hands. Elite Jews, like their Sabbat Goy stooges and allies, and other elites untouched by Zionazi power (increasingly rare)under capitalism are the ultimate Evil in humanity. They are the problem, not ‘the Jews’. The Jews have an unfortunate history of generations of brainwashing into xenophobic racist hatred of the goyim, but each individual is capable of throwing off that hideous legacy. If they refuse to, they will need disempowering, not destruction.

  28. Keeping up on Israel is like reading somebody’s Carbuncle Diary. At first it evokes pity and compassion. But soon it becomes clear this cluster of boils is a stubborn problem and seriously ugly. One naturally wants to look away. I did for decades. More recently, because the stench has become overwhelming — what with 9/11, the Iraq war, etc. — my sympathy for the diarist has evaporated.

    Fact is: Netanyahu is a war criminal of the worst sort. He LIED to the US Congress about WMD. His tongue is a weapon of mass deception. It should be clipped, pickled and put on display at the Smithsonian.

    p.s. Other than being a bulldog for Israel, does USA really have any quarrel with Iran? As such, If the Covid pandemic was a biodrop meant to target China and Iran, as Mr. Unz claims, does that not reveal who is the partner — if not leader — in this alleged biocrime? Why does not Mr. Unz just spit it out?

    • Replies: @emersonreturn
  29. @Thomas Faber

    Over at Republic Broadcasting Network (RBN) on Saturday Chris Switzer and his co-host Rachel Tobias spent an hour discussing the coming of the Moschiach . Here is a link to the broadcast. I hope it may be of helpto you.

    https://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/the-freedom-ministry-with-chris-switzer-april-10-2021-hour-1/

    • Replies: @Thomas Faber
  30. neutral says:
    @JohnPlywood

    A good example of how the woke spawn and the patriotard are now pretty much the same thing.

  31. John Hagan says: • Website

    The Merchant of Venice/Palestine: This video is a satire in that it contrasts the quality of mercy in Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice against the quality towards the Palestinains today.

  32. Patric says:

    Is it possible that the ‘virus’ in Iran was/is say an electro-magnetic attack of some kind that is blamed on the ‘virus’. Kills two birds with one stone there, increases the fear of the ‘virus’ which is about to be deployed for all the propaganda purposes we now see plus it damages and scares Iran. Any talk about ‘bio-weapons’ I do not find very convincing, there is the major difficulty of actually achieving that plus the problem of blowback and spread to areas not intended.

    It makes more sense to view the ‘virus’ story as a pure hoax and any real damages coming from something else. The speculation about electro-magnetic weapons (5G etc) can also be applied to China at the ‘outbreak’ as Wuhan switched on a lot of 5G type techology and in the West also as cities ramp up 5G we can have a constant supply of seeming ‘virus’ victims.

    I guess one difficulty with this idea if the ‘virus’ story is a pure hoax why did Israel as plugged in as they are fall for it? Maybe they serve as a ‘example nation’ and are meant to lead the world into all the suicidal type measures we see with the covid operation. Maybe Netanyahu knows it is a hoax and figures he can ‘play’ with it but damage the rest of the Western world and it’s hated Christian legacy.

  33. Ghali says:

    The Israeli Fascist regime led by the self-described racist Netanyahu poses the greatest threat to world’s peace and humanity.

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  34. JWalters says:
    @Ron Unz

    A very reasonable possibility. It seems to me the following is also reasonable. The anthrax attacks which accompanied 9/11 were directed against US Senators who opposed the Iraq war, and were initially also blamed on Iraq. Later it was determined that the anthrax came from Fort Detrick. Since the Iraq war was a main Israeli policy objective, and there is plenty of evidence that 9/11 was an Israeli operation to justify the Iraq war, it seems plausible that the Israelis were ultimately behind the accompanying anthrax attacks, even though the anthrax originated in an American army lab. So the same could be true in this case. If so, the Chinese lab was set up as a patsy, like Lee Harvey Oswald in the JFK assassination (which is also linked to the Israelis by a great deal of evidence). More broadly, there is evidence of deep Israeli financial control over a wide spectrum of America’s actions. For example,
    “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    • Agree: Lucy Lipinska, FLgeezer
    • Thanks: Iris
  35. Schuetze says:

    Thank you for this fantastic and informative article, Mr. Shamir. I detest Israeli politics, it is about as much fun as watching turds rise to the top of a cess pool, and twice as stinky, so I usually just try to ignore it.

    “The problem is that the party leaders hate each other, and they don’t want to accept Palestinians even as junior partners in their government.

    The bulk of Palestinians have no Israeli citizenship, like the American Indians had no US citizenship

    They have sanctioned the use of torture, ethnic cleansing, confiscation of Palestinian lands and homes, the expulsion of Palestinians, and have approved the bombing of Gaza and Lebanon

    The courts have declared all the state lands of Palestine to be the property of the Jewish people.

    Bibi gave royally generous gifts of the vaccine to the countries and leaders he considered useful, but not to the Palestinians

    The Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona develops deadly bacteria and viruses; there were cases when their effectiveness was tested on Palestinians. “

    Lets face it, Jews, also known as Judea, have declared Palestinians to be Amalek since 1917 when the UK, through Balfour, agreed to give Palestine to the Zionists. Germany was declared Amalek by Judea in 1933. Of the 8 million German prisoners of war captured by the Judeo-Communists in the USSR, on 2 million returned. Eisenhower murdered up to 2 million German POW’s in the Rhine Meadows Camps. Germany was being starved to death under the Morgentau plan from 1945-1953.

    In September 1951 Chancellor Konrad Adenauer of West Germany addressed his Parliament: “… unspeakable crimes have been committed in the name of the German people, calling for moral and material indemnity”. This was when the blackmailed leadership of Germany took the knee and swore fealty to Judea. After Germany officially accepted collective guilt for everything that had happened to the Jews since they murdered Jesus, only then Germany was allowed to trade in the world markets using the Dmark, and the the Jewish blockade against the German Amaleks was lifted. It did not matter that Germany had never actually ordered or implemented the holocaust, Germany had to accept collective guilt for whatever the Jews demanded.

    This in essence is what the Palestinians must also do. They must accept their own collective guilt, not only for the holocaust, not only for stealing Palestine from the Jews in 70AD, but they must accept their collective guilt for forcing the Rabbi’s to murder Jesus. Only then will the jews dictate the precise terms that Palestinians must accept in order to regain their status as non-Amalek.

    As long as Palestinians are Amalek, there will be no end to what Jews will not do to them. Murder their children. Steal their organs. Blood Sacrifice and Andrenochrome extraction. Biological warfare. Jews know and accept no limits. And this applies to all the Jewish political parties in Israel, because from the jewish led Nuremberg tribunals, we know that crimes against humanity lead to collective guilt, and that applies to all Jews and Israel just as it applied to all Germans and Germany.

    • Replies: @Jake
  36. Johan says:
    @israel shamir

    So, how smart are we, to have discovered a plausible scenario. What will it bring us?

    Perhaps we should thank them, those who unleashed the virus, while the stratagems remain theory, what the mass soap opera of the people, their representatives, the choreographer statisticians, the priests of science and the monster which is the media has brought about shows much which normally is hidden or denied by ideological belief. It shows that all the talk of freedom in our democracies is mere appearance, that the elites are cynical, that freedom is the first to go, that culture is the first to be scraped. It shows the problem of scientism, the problem of the authority of science. It shows the mass ignorance, it shows that only quantities count, that for the state there are no citizens but numbers on statistic. It shows the abnormal power of the media in a democracy, it shows mass public opinion is about all powerful, the power of the number, the power of mass ignorance, fear and cheap unifying dictatorial sentimentality, the lack of common sense and intelligence. It shows human incompetence, which is not even culpable. It shows how the individual and his intelligence is nothing in the modern world, only numbers in statistics of institutions ultimately count. It shows worship of science and technology.
    It shows in a hastened form what normally creeps ahead about unseen, it shows the inhumanity. It shows much more.. the response as an act of extreme society wide materialist vulgarity, a spiritless society of automatons. Even those fighting against the above are clueless, they have no other alternative than to go back to normal, as if the situation is not characteristic of society, as if it came suddenly out of the blue, as if it it is not its baby carrying its ‘genes’.

    As such, nice theory, even the opposition has a data and statistics fetish, and the detailed reports and accompanying theories which is merely about digging around in the dirty mud, and lots of indignation and casting the blame of believers. If such would come to the light of day and be admitted, they would just chop of a few heads here and there, and society would continue as usual faring its course of materialism and destruction of all what has soul and spirit.

    In short, homo vulgaris, modern secular Western man is defenseless, clueless and confused, his spirit is about dead, he has no faith, no spirit, he is not the victim of some bandits and a virus, but a victim of himself and his system.

  37. Schuetze says:

    “Despite having a very high vaccination rate, Israel is still in the grips of Corona hysterics. The country has been quarantined for almost a year, with short breaks. The airports have been closed down. Vaccination is practically mandatory. The psychological pressure on the unvaccinated is so strong that very few people can withstand it. “

    A 76 year old neighbor of mine has been acting strangely since he got vaccinated. He is much quieter and reserved, he seems to be luking about his house, and he said some really bizarre things about a mutual neighbor. There have been reports dribbling in of erratic behavior and mental issues for people who have gotten vaccinated.

    Israel has vaccinated 60% of its population as of April 8. Its population is 9.3 million, so 5.6 million have been vaccinated. If we assume that 2 million Palestinians have not been vaccinated, and 1 million orthodox jew, that would imply that 5.6m/(9.3m-2m-1m)=89% of Atheist jews are vaccinated.

    It will be interesting to watch if the entire stolen country of Israel starts a period of mass delusion and erratic behavior.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  38. @The Real World

    Re #3
    For hygiene there is soap. For information there is Clopper’s Sex and Circumcision
    on Youtube (if the ADL hasn’t removed it). CDC for information? Not so much.

    • LOL: The Real World
  39. Jake says:
    @Renoman

    You cannot nuke the many endless problems of anti-Christ and anti-Christendom out of the world.

  40. Anonymice says:

    That my tax dollar should underwrite such Zionist evil is also a statement of the depths of evil we have allowed ourselves to sink to. Add to that the total surrender of our sovereignty to this despicable tribe of rulers. But wait! What do we get in return? Zionist spies and Israel firsters running our institutions.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  41. A123 says:
    @israel shamir

    Labour wasn’t aware it bore the idea of integration)) The Wall was the Labour’s idea, and Separation, too.

    The original Left leadership of Israel gave citizenship to a huge number of Muslims. They also permanently conceded this occupation of the Temple Mount to the Jordanian Waqf.

    Aware or not, their actions led to the false hope of integration.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  42. @Schuetze

    Israel has vaccinated 60% of its population as of April 8. Its population is 9.3 million, so 5.6 million have been vaccinated.

    Seems to me here on Unz I read an ongoing account of Covid deaths in Israel going up while attacking more and more youth who had been vaxxed. I forget the author here, but did it not say Israel was vaxxed to the tune of 85% by April or so? Or do opinions vary?

  43. MLK says:
    @Ron Unz

    . . . there seems strong perhaps overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China . . .

    Nonsense.

    What continues to fascinate me is very bright people such as yourself playing dumb about a fundament of high level conspiracy theories, by definition they are designed, or post hoc information/disinformation appears, muddying the waters.

    It’s a fool’s errand to believe as you apparently do that this still in motion saga is a puzzle you can solve by perusing the internets. As the old saying goes, if you look around the poker table and can’t figure out who the mark is then you’re it.

    That’s really an excellent analogy . . .

    Uh, no it isn’t. That you claim this greatly diminishes your credibility on this subject and whether you clunked your head.

    While the Wall Street Journal reported that a few Iranian tankers had been sabotaged by Israeli frogmen, Israelis were upset and said they sabotaged “dozens”, not just a few.

    I must have missed the analogous confessions of the use of bioweapons.

    Assume arguendo that Israel has a history of attacking/disabling Iranian tankers. And that Israel has no interest in despoiling its own beaches. That means that the likeliest explanation (not certain, however), is either Israel screwed up the attack or Iran fixed their little red wagons. After all, this incident what just what the doctor ordered for Iranian shipping, so it’s anybody’s guess whether they got lucky or made their own luck.

    That’s so throughly disruptive and dissatisfying, even to me, I’ll attempt to add something positive to the mix. It wasn’t just dicta when I added “high level” to conspiracy theory. Even a middle schooler can see that the stakes are in extremis here, akin the Kennedy assassination and 9/11. So much so. ironically perhaps, both China and the USG have a shared interest in containing the dueling narratives, such as it were.

    This is too big for what we could call a Lockerbie Special, in which the US and Iran conspired to make Libya the dirty dog for their tit for tat with commercial aircraft.

    What’s beyond dispute is that globally, under the rubric of keeping us “safe,” humanity has been subjected to something it had never been before, mass lockdowns and the rest of the dystopian shebang. Indeed, since the anti-Trump alignment, anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, succeeded in removing him from power, they’ve decided it’d be madness not to keep the show on the road.

    Arguing over who is responsible is a cruel distraction from its exploitation after the fact by, at least to my eye, the worst sociopaths and psychopaths each and every country has produced in this generation.

  44. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Israel’s entire coast has been polluted by a massive oil spill from an Iranian oil tanker, producing huge popular anger. But it eventually turned out that the spill had been caused by a secret attack by Israeli frogmen on that tanker, which blew a hole in its side.

    People keep repeating this story, yet there is no proof.

    Where are the photos showing the blast damage? If Iranians controlled a tanker with such damage… Would they not invite a media spectacle exposing Israeli actions?

    It is much more likely that sloppy maintenance and crew neglect caused the leak…. The Iranians continue to hide the tanker because the actual cause has nothing to do with Israel.
    _____

    This is much like the WUHAN-19 virus situation. Even the World Health Organization [WHO] is headed towards public acknowledgement that the virus was enhanced at the Wuhan Virus Laboratory.

    The only question that remains is did the Elite CCP intentionally release WUHAN-19 on its own people? Or, did WUHAN-19 escape from the Virus Laboratory by accident?

    Either way — How many Trillions of Dollars will CCP Elites pay in reparations for the damage they caused the world?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @neutral
  45. Ron Unz says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    I’m sure the US government is stupid enough to release “a dangerous virus,” but why hasn’t East Asia suffered from COVID-19 like the rest of the world?

    Well, China immediately locked down 700 million(!!!) of its people for several weeks, and instituted massive testing and contract tracing, so that might have had something to with their success in stamping out the virus.

    Taiwan, Japan, and other East Asian countries also quickly took sweeping testing and public health measures, while the US just ignored the entire problem for a couple of months and didn’t even have an available test during that period.

    If two neighboring houses catch on fire, with one family quickly hosing down its roof and the other family watching TV until their house burns down, that doesn’t mean the first house was built of asbestos.

  46. Ron Unz says:
    @Seraphim

    According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.
    Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.

    Actually, as I discussed in my long article, there’s ZERO evidence that the Chinese government was aware of the outbreak at that point and enormous evidence that it wasn’t. That’s what makes the case so strong for it being an American biowarfare attack:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/

    I’ll repeat a couple of the key paragraphs I first published almost a full year ago:

    But with the horrific consequences of our own later governmental inaction being obvious, elements within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch. Earlier this month, an ABC News story cited four separate government sources to reveal that as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia. After the story aired, a Pentagon spokesman officially denied the existence of that November report, while various other top level government and intelligence officials refused to comment. But a few days later, Israeli television mentioned that in November American intelligence had indeed shared such a report on the Wuhan disease outbreak with its NATO and Israeli allies, thus seeming to independently confirm the complete accuracy of the original ABC News story and its several government sources.

    It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/#the-smoking-gun

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  47. Ron Unz says:
    @EdNels

    I think the oil Iranian oil tanker was on route to Syria north of Israel some hundreds of miles. If the tanker was mined by frogmen did they do that as it passed off Israel, or at the Suez canal, or was that ship sailed around Africa?

    The plan might have been that it would be detonated on entry its destination there, at port in Syria.

    It could be a technical failure rather than stupidity.

    Sure, that’s very possible. I haven’t looked into the details of the tanker attacks and was just going by what was mentioned in the article. The oil is that the massive oil spill was accidental blow-back.

  48. IronForge says:

    Option1

    All Tribals should Pass the Hat to:
    1) Buy Out the Sinai.
    2) Buy/Form a Section Off an EGY-facing or EGY-Surrounded Portion to Formulate a “Palestine”.
    3) Relocate All Palis to the “New Palestine”.
    4) Build the rest of the Sinai for themselves.

    Option2

    Tribals should relocate All Palis to resettle in JOR.

    • Replies: @A123
  49. neutral says:
    @A123

    Observe how when a jew gets caught out they always resort to blatant lies. Lying comes natural to jews the same as it does for psychopaths, that is because the psychopathy is baked into very the genes of this race.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  50. @Johnny F. Ive

    With all these fools offering up their DNA to get their ancestry, could the virus have been a designer one? Given most of the vaccines are gene therapies, this just might be the beginning? If it is a designer bug, China may have not been the target but the delivery system. Yeah it took me a bit to get to the point we are ruled by evil psychopaths.

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  51. mena says:

    It will be interesting to watch if the entire stolen country of Israel starts a period of mass delusion and erratic behavior.

    How would you be able to tell?

  52. Jake says:
    @Schuetze

    It is not about Race, nor is it about Nationality. It is about Ethnicity, as understood by someone like E. Michael Jones. That means it is about the never ceasing, never waning war of those on the side of anti-Christ and anti-Christendom against those on the side of Christ and Christendom.

    Once Jesus was crucified, the Jewish ethnos was defined as being Anti-Christ. And its entire history highlights that fact.

    But Jews are not the only group to serve permanent rebellion against Christ and Christendom. In fact they are a small minority. The Mohammedan ethnos is equally anti-Christ and anti-Christendom.

    And yes, hordes of whites, including hordes who fancy themselves Christian, also serve the Satanic cause of permanent anti-Christ and anti-Christendom. The Reformation cleaved Christendom and so served anti-Christ. Luther himself determined that the Reformation must be Judaizing by decreeing that the Christian Old Testament was not the Septuagint (which was used by the early Christians) but instead was what Jews declared it to be – Luther took the side of Jews against the Church and so set the basis for the Reformation being Judaizing. Most specifically, Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a thoroughly Judaizing heresy, a murderous one that rather quickly came to embrace the concept of total cultural genocide. And that culture in its secularist form conquered the world and so spread Judaizing across the globe.

    It is either Christ and Christendom or Chaos in which Jews dominate.

  53. “They’ve got the Italian merry-go-round virus of unstable governments.”

    It’s a clear sign of an unstable people.

  54. “The judges are as unfair and dishonest as in the US.”

    Is it because the US judiciary is dominated by Jews? A corrupt people will corrupt all things they touch!

  55. A123 says:
    @neutral

    Notice how quickly the Muslim liar “neutral” lies. I am a Christian, not a Jew.
    _____

    To be more precise, let me clarify my prior statement:

    Even the independent members of the World Health Organization [WHO] with no financial ties to the CCP are headed towards public acknowledgement that the virus was enhanced at the Wuhan Virus Laboratory.

    The Elite CCP has been trying to corrupt the WHO for some time. Here is the most recent attempt: (1)

    The World Health Organization is defending its appointment of a U.S. doctor with prior financial ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) to be a part of its investigative team that probed the origins of COVID-19 in China in early 2021.

    Peter Daszak’s involvement in the WHO’s investigative panel has been described as a conflict of interest by U.S.-based epidemiologists and medical groups. Prior to the pandemic, Daszak, as president of the nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance, routed $600,000 in taxpayer funds to the WIV in the form of National Institutes of Health subgrants to fund studies into bat-based coronaviruses.

    The CCP funded members of the WHO will, of course, continue to push fiction on the gullible public.
    ___

    In many ways the best outcome would be proof that WUHAN-19 is 100% natural spread by poor hygiene in the Wuhan Wet Markets. That would end all possible conspiracy theories.

    However, WUHAN-19 is much more contagious than previous natural viruses, such as the prior corona virus outbreak. Anyone trying to convince the world that WUHAN-19 is natural has an uphill road explaining how this highly human-to-human contagious version came to be.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/02/world-health-organization-daszak-conflict-interest/

  56. A123 says:
    @IronForge

    1) Buy Out the Sinai.
    2) Buy/Form a Section Off an EGY-facing or EGY-Surrounded Portion to Formulate a “Palestine”.

    A Southern Sinai option has additional advantages:

    — An Egyptian run Protectorate under a Military Governor would keep out the current corrupt bodies such as PLO, Fatah, and Hamas that have failed to advance the peace process.
    — UNRWA would only contribute funds to the Protectorate at the top level. This would join the flow of funds from other sources to build up necessary infrastructure. There would be no NGO entanglements on the ground driven by a UN/NWO presence.
    — The primarily Muslim Sunni residents of New Muslim Palestine would have better access to financially prosperous & stable Sunni consumer markets in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc…

    It would be a WIN-WIN solution for everyone, except those personally profiting from the graft & violence.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: IronForge
  57. HdC says:
    @The Real World

    We civilized people know how to wash ourselves properly. You know, running water & shower, soap, etc.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  58. @Cowboy

    “I’m a pro zionist in the sense it sure would be nice if we could keep all the semitic people over there..social distancing at it’s best”.

    A truly appealing version of Zionism, Cowboy!

  59. @A123

    @A123. The name Daszak is Polish. I do not know if that means anything in this case, but it definitely indicates this “Briton’s” having Polish roots. Knowing how hard it is for an ethnic Pole to make a career, I find it not far-fetched to speculate about Mr Daszak being Jewish, or at least a Mischling.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Brás Cubas
  60. A123 says:
    @Lucy Lipinska

    The name Daszak is Polish. I do not know if that means anything in this case,

    The most important thing to note is that he is on-the-take, being paid by the CCP via the Wuhan Institute of Virology. His religion/ethnicity is not terribly relevant.

    The number of U.S. citizens, frequently with university ties, collaborating with the CCP is horrifying to behold. Why does the U.S. allow any “Confucius Institutes”? It is obviously bad for U.S. Workers.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  61. @Majority of One

    “Those who they would destroy, the gods first make mad”. Can Shamir’s descriptions of contemporary I$rael be considered as anything other than a madhouse?

    The inmates of a madhouse don’t control the madhouse, much less anything else, except in horror/science fiction.

    Israel and American Jewry together–despite the ever-impending “divorce”–are in a position to place controls on the behavior of the goy majority of the US and indirectly on the rest of the world via the American golem-state.

    While you might describe Israel as a madhouse in the sense of being home to a people characterized by evolved mass-psychopathy, it somehow misses the larger reality to do so.

  62. @thotmonger

    western relations with iran, as with russia, are complicated. certainly iran covets iran’s location, oil, & other resources bt the UK views iran as its oil, brit oil. so london & israel will continue to push the us into war with iran.

  63. @A123

    Notice how quickly the Muslim liar “neutral” lies. I am a Christian, not a Jew.

    Not in any meaningful sense of the word “Christian.”

    (Assuming you yourself are not dissimulating.)

    In any case, Neutral isn’t lying, even if he is wrong. He is understandably thinking that the sort of sophistic nonsense you consistently spew must be the work of a Jew.

    • LOL: A123
  64. IronForge says:
    @A123

    Some of the benefits surrounding an EGY-Facing and EGY-Surrounded “Palestine” involve:

    Parts of Sinai previously being offered to the Palis by EGY;

    With an EGY border, “Palestine” can conduct Trade and Transport without being closed off by ISR. An EGY-Surrounded(EGY or EGY+MedSea or EGY+RedSea) Version would enjoy a Physical Separation from ISR.

    Any Foul Play against EGY or ISR will result in swift retaliations – so the Palis will need to be nice and live amongst themselves…

    • Replies: @Majority of One
    , @A123
  65. @The Real World

    It’s not a valid argument to call those whom you disagree with “ignorant.” Are you aware that Christianity was opposed to circumcision for 19 centuries? And that it is seldom practiced in most of Europe, Russia, South America, and East Asia? If the natural penis is such a deadly disease carrier, why aren’t intact men and their partners dropping over dead from cancer, or being driven to madness in a VD pandemic? Are American men too stupid or lazy to wash it?

    Similar whoppers have been said for centuries about women’s genitalia. That they must be circumcised for their own good, to keep them calm and faithful to their husbands. It is still practiced in many backward parts of the world. But now we know it for what it is: Female Genital Mutilation. Some day we’ll be equally enlightened about Male Genital Mutilation.

    The exaggerations and fabrications told to us about Covid remind me of the lies I’ve read about circumcision for years. I’m not ignorant about circumcision. I’ve studied it extensively. It doesn’t appear to me that YOU have. As for the CDC Website, it’s mostly run by Jewish doctors who have a vested interest. I’ll start believing what they have to say about circumcision the day I start believing Tony Fauci on Covid, or Bill Gates on vaccines.

    • Agree: niceland, HdC, Theophrastus
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Thanks: Majority of One
    • Replies: @The Real World
  66. @The Real World

    Get real! Neonatal removal of part of an innocent child’s body without informed permission is a Class-A violation of human rights. It’s elementary.

    If you are so gung-ho to lube your pubes over your own sad state of affairs, why don’t you simply become an advocate for choice in the matter by adults who seem “icky” to “Western” (i.e., specifically and only American) women? A simple soap and water wash-job before oral intimacy removes the cheese and any “disagreeable” male pheromone aroma. There are those who prefer “lace-curtains” rather than bareheads. So it all boils down to a matter of individual taste. So why not allow adults to make their own choices and leave innocent babies intact?

    Neonatal sexual battery on innocent babies–definitively without their consent—is a cruel fate. Adults have the right and the power to choose, but not newborns. And don’t give us any shit about “parental rights”. Nobody has the RIGHT to commit sexual assault and battery on anyone else–particularly newborns who are likely to become subject to lifelong neuroses, phobias and possibly even psychopathic and sociopathic behaviors as the result of the obvious subconscious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder of getting the entire point of their man-hood forcibly removed.

    It strikes me that the majority of Americans, who merely are continuing a blood-ritual which is not the WAY of their ancestors, probably need some serious counseling either before they qualify for their marriage licenses, or before their boychild is born. America is one seriously messed up culture. Neonatal circumcision is one of the primary factors influencing that schizoid “conspiracy” to adhere to America’s Dirty Little Secret.

    For Shame.

    • Thanks: follyofwar
    • LOL: The Real World
    • Replies: @anonymous
  67. @IronForge

    EFF Off !!! Sayanim/ Hasbarfas are always coming up with schemes to fend the rightful owners of Occupied Palestine away from their homeland.

    Johns Hopkins DNA studies determined that the genetic profile of the Palestinian people is 80% derived from the ancient Hebrews. Can you say the same for the SOKs (sons of Khazaria) or even for the majority of the Sephardim? Hardly. You descendants of Khazaria, which was converted to Talmudism by their Kagan in Ca 740 A.D. have no more inherent rights to Palestine than I do to Beijing.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Troll: IronForge
    • Replies: @IronForge
  68. @Spender_CGB

    Thanks for the link.

    I am convinced that it is a mistaken belief that a Moschiach will arrive, in the sense that some Orthodox Jews believe.

    I believe that certain evil jewish elements are using the idea for psychological manipulation, to fool many unwary jews.

  69. @Ghali

    No, it is the USA. The USA could actually just ignore that bloated Netanyahu and go about its business. It seems the USA loves to have a constant war and following this character gives it the war it craves.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  70. Israel’s judicial system is the most rotten part of the Jewish state. … The judges are as unfair and dishonest as in the US.

    Having dealt with flagrant inequity in a U.S. State court, it’s tempting to agree with this, though it’s not quite so cut and dry. One problem in American courts has been the erosion of equity jurisprudence, applied formerly in a court of chancery as a means of avoiding patently harsh or undesirable results arising from strict application of common law. In principle, equity jurisprudence still exists, but in practice, it’s been subsumed by the dictates of common law.

    In principle, anyone can act as his own attorney. In practice, the courts favor those at bar, even when an attorney pro se does his best to adhere to common law procedure. In spite of these problems, it is possible to use the courts to one’s benefit and, in some cases, one must do so in order to establish or affirm a precedent for civil rights.

    In America, there are some matters in which the likelihood of prevailing in court is greater than not. Take, for example, the controversy of the Asatru Folk Assembly in Murdock, Minnesota, a religious community whose presence, though adamantly opposed by many locals (including the usual suspects), was allowed out of consideration for the insurmountable legal challenge the town would have faced in denying it a land use permit:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-permit-approved-whites-only-church-small-minnesota-town-insists-n1251838

    So … while certainly less than idyllic, American courts can still serve to protect civil rights. It probably even happens from time to time in Israel, though strictly as a function of protecting Israel’s image abroad. In most circumstances, the courts’ complicity in land theft and other assorted criminality is de rigueur.

  71. @A123

    A curse be upon all you $ayanim and Hasbarfas for coming up with scheme after scheme to deprive the ancient Hebrew descended Palestinian people of their indigenous homeland of Occupied Palestine.

    There is something within the “Chosen” Kult-sure which impels you people to continually over-reach in your psychopathic/sociopathic/parasitical drive to conquer and control all of us whom you detest as “Goyim”. Even dunderheaded Americans are once again awakening to your perfidy. Parasitism is a mental disease. Keep it up and you will be the agents of your own demise.

    Some Jewish cultural values are quite positive, such as emphasis on learning and engagement in the arts…even the occasional Jewish rebel gift of prophesy. Get the Hell outta that Talmudic trap and the notion of being “chosen” by your tribal WarGod Yahweh (may he drown in a boiling vat of shit).

    Decide to rejoin the human race. Jewish people have much to offer. The sages will welcome you as we ascend from the depths of Kali Yuga and once again swirl into the spiral dance of a higher dimensionality of cultural evolution.

    • Replies: @Thomas Faber
  72. anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @HdC

    You forgot to mention, “washing” yourselves with toilet paper!! Lol!

    “We civilized people”?! The ones with shit and piss on their clothes? Rofl!

    • Replies: @HdC
  73. A123 says:
    @IronForge

    An EGY-Surrounded(EGY or EGY+MedSea or EGY+RedSea) Version would enjoy a Physical Separation from ISR.

    With sufficient physical separation, smuggling of war material becomes a non-issue (or at least rare).

    The Egyptian Military Governor would have to maintain sufficient control over New Muslim Palestine financial institutions to prevent fund raising for terrorist activity. Certainly an achievable objective if the rules for the Protectorate are well thought out at inception.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: IronForge
  74. anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Majority of One

    Neonatal sexual battery on innocent babies–definitively without their consent—is a cruel fate.

    Cruel fate?! Lol!

    The very act of bringing those innocent souls into your accursed pagan/godless lives was without their consent, and the most cruel of fates which follows later for following in your godless path… that of Hell.

    Sheesh! Talk about assigning screwed-up priorities in life… you pagan godless vermin! A circumcised dick will be the least of your/their worries. On the Day, you will be cursing your spiritually accursed parents, just like your son will of his.

    • Replies: @Thomas Faber
  75. @Reverend Goody

    I would say both USA and Israel as partners in crimes of war.

  76. moi says:
    @A123

    As President Reagan would say: “There you go again.”

  77. @follyofwar

    You made an ignorant comment. There are medical (more specifically, health) reasons why circumcision became common in the West. You could do the minimum of informing yourself or is that asking too much?

    I wonder how many other replies will suggest the use of soap? Is that not hilarious? Then you pose this question as if serious. “Are American men too stupid or lazy to wash it?” Folly, that indicates, yet more, ignorance on your part. There is a word for the accumulation of gunk on an uncircumcised tool. Do you know what it is? Why was a word created to define it? Because it’s routinely kept clean?

    You could have thanked me for making you aware that you’d get less sex if you hadn’t been clipped. I’m SURE that never occurred to you, you’re too busy obsessing over your naughty bits.

    (P.S. Something else I’m sure you’re unaware of: millions of women continually get nether region problems they have to treat even from males who have been clipped. So, wake-up already.)

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  78. noname27 says: • Website
    @Cowboy

    The Jews are not Semites, nor are they Israelites. Jews are Shelahite Hamitic Canaanites and their origins are recorded in Genesis 38.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Cowboy
  79. Israel is “harebrained} and “vicious” enough to even endanger its own population.

  80. noname27 says: • Website
    @Renoman

    No nukes, just an earthquake. Here is what will happen:

    Zechariah 14:1-5 (Septuagint) Behold, the days of The Lord come, and thy spoils shall be divided in thee. 2 And I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to war, and the city shall be taken, and the houses plundered, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, but the rest of my people shall not be utterly cut off from the city. 3 And The Lord shall go forth, and fight with those nations as when He fought in the day of war. 4 And His feet shall stand in that day on The Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and The Mount of Olives shall cleave asunder, half of it toward the east and the west, a very great division; and half the mountain shall lean to the north, and half of it to the south. 5 And the valley of my mountains shall be closed up, and the valley of the mountains shall be joined on to Jasod, and shall be blocked up as it was blocked up in the days of the earthquake, in the days of Ozias king of Juda; and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with Him.

  81. noname27 says: • Website

    How long will the world put up with apartheid?

    Nothing wrong with Apartheid. The only problem is that Jews in Israel have a monopoly in it.

  82. Ma Laoshi says:

    Whilst the Covid crisis impacted all mankind, Israel was a leader in dealing with it

    What tosh, and a fine example of how you control narratives by limiting people’s choice to different flavors of failure. Many civilized, East-Asian countries have been done with this epidemic for a year already, and they did it without vaccines or endless lockdowns and other police-state measures.

  83. @anonymous

    There will be no general Judgement Day – it happens to every soul when it leaves life.

    The Revelation is not a prophecy. It is the record of St. Johns inner experiences. He was a highly advanced mystic.

    Jesus said: “The Kingdom of God is within you”. He did not say: “The Kingdom of God is within the Bible”, and he did not say: “The Kingdom of God is within the church”.

    Jesus most certainly taught about reincarnation, too. It seems that Christianity included it until emperor Justinian removed it from the canon in the 6th century, under pressure from Theodora.

  84. @A123

    oy vey! – ever considered a career writing copy for MAD magazine?

    • Replies: @A123
  85. No matter who they elect, they will be replacing one zionist with another zionist and so what difference does it make, just like here in the ZUS.

  86. Skeptikal says:
    @The Real World

    You are a sick puppy. And your hygiene argument is a stupid one.
    BTW, note correct spelling of hygiene.

    Most civilized people understand and practice the basics of human hygiene.
    In fact, most animals do the same.

    Sure, some people don’t brush their teeth.
    And they have disgusting breath.
    And they end up getting all of their teeth pulled out.
    That is a *great* solution for ignoring hygiene.
    Some people are disgusted by the Western habit of using paper instead of water after defecating.
    Some women never take a douche.
    Others do it every day.
    Some cultures don’t provide a bidet for basic feminine hygiene.
    Etc. etc.

    It is a shame if circumcision is seen as a “solution” to maintaining basic physical cleanliness.
    Sure seems like overkill to me.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  87. @Majority of One

    Well spoken, sir!

    One thing, though – I don’t think that A123 realises that he is being used as a tool. He sounds like he has bought the “arabs are terrorists”-propaganda, hook, line, and sinker, and is speaking from a wish for peace, although his understanding is deluded.

    He should look into Israeli terrorism, to get a more nuanced picture.

    • Replies: @A123
  88. BorisMay says:

    Proof democracy (multi party) states don’t work. Time to abandon democracy. Netanyahu is everything the Jews accuse Hitler of being…only worse.
    Sounds like they need a Solon. Elected tyrants, (in the Classical Greek use of the word), do have their uses.
    Israel is clearly fully compartmentalised, thus when Al Quds launches their attack on Israel, as seems imminent after the Israeli attack on Iran recently, the chaos will be such in Israel that it will be a walkover for the Shia.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  89. Skeptikal says:
    @A123

    Fauci himself is involved with the Wuhan lab, IIRC.

  90. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @noname27

    The Jews are not Semites, nor are they Israelites. Jews are Shelahite Hamitic Canaanites and their origins are recorded in Genesis 38.

    The Jews in charge or the ones immigrating from Brooklyn have European DNA.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/most-ashkenazi-jews-are-genetically-europeans-surprising-study-finds-8C11358210

    NBC News

    Most Ashkenazi Jews are genetically Europeans, surprising study finds

    Oct. 8, 2013
    By Tia Ghose

    The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.

    Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England…

  91. @Skeptikal

    Skep – Comments like yours are my absolute favorite.

    I get to laugh and shake my head at the same time and enjoy pointing out that you just substantiated what I put forth! Read your OWN words, read them again and four and ten times, if you need to.

    You….just….defined….the….problem. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
    , @Skeptikal
  92. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Thomas Faber

    Jeez, how can one discuss this topic and forget the lessons of Life of Brian: there’s always throngs of Messiahs competing for attention and … wait, what’s that other thing called. I almost found the word, ehmmm… In Fable, in the temple to the Evil god Skorm, you donated human sacrifices; and in the temple to the Good god Avo, one donated–oh of course, MONEY! That’s what it’s only ever all about.

  93. A123 says:
    @john nutter

    ever considered a career writing copy for MAD magazine?

    Considering how badly SJW Islamic Globalism has compromised the Fake Stream Media in the U.S., MAD likely qualifies as a real news position. All one has to do be employed by the New York Dhimmi Times is repeat Quran inspired hate fiction.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @anon
  94. Anne Lid says:
    @The Real World

    Enough with this. It is unnatural, abnormal for parents to take their innocent, fragile newborn and purposefully cause pain to it. It’s just a stupid habit from a time when there wasn’t enough water to properly clean every day. If someone is very keen on circumcision, he can safely have it when adult, and able to make his own decision.
    By the way, I have never encountered this crud you speak about.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  95. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “But historical documents tell a slightly different tale. Based on accounts such as those of Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, by the time of the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70, as many as 6 million Jews were living in the Roman Empire, but outside Israel, mainly in Italy and Southern Europe. In contrast, only about 500,000 lived in Judea, said Ostrer, who was not involved in the new study.

    “The major Jewish communities were outside Judea,” Ostrer told LiveScience.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/most-ashkenazi-jews-are-genetically-europeans-surprising-study-finds-8C11358210

    Jews were expelled by Roman!!!!
    That’s why anything one learns from Jews narrative whether Holocuast or 911 need to be first thrwon out of hand and out of window.

  96. A123 says:
    @Thomas Faber

    “arabs are terrorists”-propaganda, hook, line, and sinker,

    In many ways, Persian terrorists are worse than the Arab ones. The Nasrallah-shima blast in Beirut killed hundreds, injured thousands, and can be traced directly back to Iranian terror funding.

    Lebanon is stuck:
       • Hezbollah created financial & humanitarian crisis
       • Desperately needs policy changes
       • Cannot form a government
    This is a true electoral catastrophe with significant human cost.

    Compare this to Israel:
       — Agreed policies among all significant parties
       — Stable caretaker government
    While the repeated elections are a nuisance, there are no major disruptions in necessary services.

    It is not hard to see that Jewish governance in Israel is much better than Iranian Hezbollah dominance in Lebanon.

    PEACE 😇

  97. Ma Laoshi says:
    @brabantian

    Yes of course Jews squabble among themselves–it’s our culture. The squabbles may be about how overtly you want to base yourself on Torah, or about gay rights, etc; Steve Bannon’s been pretty open about trying to ride these differences to political power. But when it comes to the superiority of the race, the Motherland, and the wars needed to keep the show going, these divisions do not exist and are not being allowed to exist: when faced with the hated outsiders, the ranks are instinctively closed. That’s also, let’s face it, why jews are successful while most others are not; might as well learn from it you goyim.

    Mr. Shamir knows the jews as well as anyone but being this close, he makes more of the squabbles than I think is merited. For me, the foremost expert on liberalism is–Bibi of course. When (((liberals))) tell him “You make it difficult for us to support Israel” then he’s stopped listening, because you’ve given away the conclusion: no jew is going to donate to Taiwan or apply for citizenship in Iceland–places that actually practice liberal values. Blood is thicker than water, of course you go with the country of your race at the hour of truth. Liberalism is mostly a virtue-signaling pose, but surprisingly effective at brow-beating useless whites for the sins (real or imagined) of their ancestors, so jews keep it around for that–hey, whatever works.

    Whites have perfectly good gods of their own, on Mount Olympus. They drank wine, screwed with abandon, and most importantly laughed, enjoying their existence. But as long as people maniacally worship the God of Israel instead, it seems to me that emancipation is not possible, and we’ll all muddle on.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  98. anarchyst says:
    @Jake

    Your statement:

    “/The Mohammedan ethnos is equally anti-Christ and anti-Christendom./”

    …is incorrect.

    Islam accords Jesus Christ as a great prophet, not the “Son of God”, but nonetheless a “great prophet” while his mother Mary is given a place of high regard.

    Contrast that with the jewish talmud which states that “Jesus Christ is an apostate, boiling in excrement for eternity” while his mother Mary “conceived Jesus with a Roman soldier”.

    Now which belief system has respect for Jesus Christ??

    Hint: In ain’t judaism…

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  99. HdC says:
    @anonymous

    You obviously have difficulty comprehending written English. Look up the meaning of the word “wash”.

  100. @The Real World

    REALly idiotic: Claim that one would get less sex if he hadn’t been demasculated.? One example. On a visit to Holyoke, Colorado back in the early 80’s with a truck driver friend, his plan was to spend the night there with a girlfriend he had previously spent some time with. I got the couch.

    Next day as we were heading back eastwards he told me that she was particularly glad to see him as her enjoyment on their last time together was so great. Her explanation was that prior to him she had only experienced cutniks. Her comment that the difference between being serviced by a genuine cock was completely different from being dicked. “With them it was like being pounded with leather. With you it was more like being stroked with satin.”

    Males are capable, even missing their man-hoods, of getting off doing the primary act and of impregnating women. Intact men and their partners receive more pleasure in the act. Intelligent design? For sure, but not according to the bullshit in the Old Testicles and their bloodthirsty tribal WarGod, Yahweh. That hysterical crappola needs to go, with maybe bits and pieces being preserved.The entire book of Leviticus, though, is purely toxic.

    Those who like to call themselves Christians need to dump most of the excess baggage, the redactions and inclusions by Constantine, his minions and his Catholicizing successors who almost totally managed to destroy all knowledge of not only the wisdom of Hellenic Greece; but also the deeply eco-spiritual understandings of those they decried as “Pagans”.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
  101. @A123

    Jewish governance in Lebanon led directly to the massacres of exiled Palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Yeah, a real enlightened bunch of “caretaking”.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  102. frontier says:
    @Ron Unz

    America has suffered devastating losses due to the Covid-19 Wuhan outbreak, but there’s strong evidence that the outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China

    I generally agree with this statement except the very last part – I don’t see much evidence that the main target was China. Judging by the continuing farce called Covid Responce, the main target was the US , at least, no less than China. To date, around 5 Trillion of bailouts have been allocated to various lefty institutions and states, with about 1 Trillion distributed as bribe relief to the general public. That would be impossible without the Covid scare. Follow the money…

    From the article: Zhao Lijian said: “What activities has the US military been conducting in these labs and the base at Fort Detrick? Why does the US stand alone in opposing the establishment of a verification mechanism under the Biological Weapons Convention?

    That’s damning. I didn’t know the BWC was even more crippled than the NNPT, thanks to the US gov. I was thinking of doing some research on it but never had the time before this article, it’s a super-important issue and evidence of guilt.

  103. IronForge says:
    @Majority of One

    Mind your manners, Boy:

    Educated and Intelligent Adults are Discussing Possible Solutions to this Situation.

    Settlers are going to Shove Out those in the West Bank and Gaza Strip,

    Do I see you suggest any Feasible Alternatives?

    No?

    I didn’t think so.

    I am not a Sayanim nor a Hasbara Agent.

    I am an ex-Pro-ISR_Christian who Left Christianity behind after spending some time attending/visiting Jewish Temples while Studying Hebrew and Judaism at a Jewish University.

    Why it didn’t take? The Masorti-Masons, Chabad, Mitzrahi-Persian, J4Js, Christian_DeProgrammers, and other Cult Monkey – Hangers On made it unattractive. If I spent more time with the Modern Orthodox or the Sephardim, I may have Married into the Tribe.

    Unless you’re Birthed or Married into the Tribe – it’s Better to Keep Social+Economic Boundaries.

    I didn’t; and am maintaining Acquaintances and Friendships.

    • Replies: @A123
  104. @BorisMay

    “Time to abandon democracy.” I agree with that sentiment entirely. It’s a realization I came to after reading a short book I highly recommended, called “The End of Democracy.”

    Of course, democracy in the USA ended long ago, and was blown to smithereens last November with the (s)election of a senile old hair sniffer named Biden. Our system of government is much worse than Israel’s. They are much better off than we are as they are tiny in area and homogenous (except for the conquered Palestinians). The USA is far too huge and multi-culti, and with Biden’s Open Borders it’s quickly getting much worse. A recipe for disaster. Why can Israel have a Wall, but we can’t?

    Our Founding Fathers didn’t trust democracy, that’s why they gave us a Republic. Ben Franklin said, we gave you a Republic if you can keep it. We couldn’t. Now, with the Biden-Harris bloodless coup, we’re reaping the consequences.

  105. @A123

    The was NEVER any hope of integration or peaceful co-existence, because the Talmudists and their Zionazi spawn see Palestinians as insects. ‘Drugged cockroaches’, ‘human dust’, ‘cancer’ etc. The Israeli Palestinians have always been treated as third-rate citizens, and many Zionazi chieftains live for the day when the Nakba can be finished, and all non-Jews are expelled or worse from all of Eretz Yisrael. And, by the way-the Talmudists and Zionazis view ALL goyim, even craven grovelers like you, as animals. Higher animals, to be sure, but closer to animals than to the Jews. I’d put you in the pole-cat division.

  106. @Majority of One

    Murdering civilians is a mitzvah, or religiously sanctioned ‘good deed’ under Talmudic dogma. That includes children, even babies, if it can be said that they would grow up to ‘oppose the Jews’. Sabra and Shatilla was a great orgy of worship, like the massacre of the first-born at Passover and the slaughter of 75,000 Persians during Purim.

  107. @A123

    The spewing hatred of Hezbollah, and the dirty lies, as expected, just shows the Zionazis fear of the one force that has beaten the Zionazi Supermen more than once. And of the drooling Sabbat Goy boot-lickers, too, of course. I do not hope your child-murdering heroes try it on again because the death-toll will be great, but that’s the essence of Talmudism isn’t it.

  108. @Ma Laoshi

    In your well-written comment, Ma Laoshi, your last paragraph is priceless. I read about the gods on Mount Olympus in 7th grade ancient history. They seemed quite likeable, more worthy of worship than a middle eastern Jewish man named Jesus. Being born of a virgin, with the hand of god providing the sperm, is quite a whopper. European Man has been lost for centuries, worshiping a Jewish god who’s not of them. We need gods of our own.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  109. @Anne Lid

    Enough with what? You make your decisions and let others make theirs. And how about you stop trying to shutdown discussion? That’s a serious 21st century problem.

    You also speak from an uninformed basis. Why don’t you simply use this amazing tool called the internet and inform yourself? If you use long-tail keywords it’s easy to find info quickly.

    Perhaps you’ve also lived a sheltered life. You don’t even know the specific word for the “crud”, do you? Time to learn about physiological matters. The internet is your friend.

    • LOL: Skeptikal
  110. Seraphim says:
    @Ron Unz

    Yes, of course. The discussion was quite animated at the time, attracting perhaps the greatest number of comments (I put in my 2 cents, too) and the possibility that it was a bio-weapon appeared to be the most grounded.
    Apparently it surfaces again, with a vengeance. I don’t think that it’s a coincidence in the timing of the Russian and Chinese declarations, the more that the Russians raised the question of Ukrainian labs.

  111. A123 says:
    @IronForge

    Does [Minority of Zero] suggest any Feasible Alternatives?

    The most vocal anti-Semites posting here are very extreme and have no understanding of the reality on the ground. They think everyone is attached to a fight-to-the-death mentality. Both Minority of Zero and Mulga NoBrain are on my Blocked Commenters list due to their vicious racism and irrationality.
    ___

    The number of truly violent Muslims, even after 50+ Years of conflict, are probably 10-20% of the population. How many parents in the relatively sane 80-90% would voluntarily move 50-100 miles in order to give their children a better life?

    The difficulty is giving them a place to go that will not be infected by the violent 10-20%. It has to be a solid & dramatic break, such as an Egyptian or Saudi Protectorate that:
    • Does not offer a physical border with Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel).
    • Excludes proven agents of violence, including the UN.

    A true endgame is coming in Gaza. Iranian Hamas destroyed the fresh water aquifer for 2MM+ people. Rain and surface water can support perhaps 25% of that population. Desalination is unaffordable and/or unavailable. Within a few decades 75%+ of Gaza’s population must leave, or there will be an internal Muslim-Vs-Muslim Civil War over water.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: IronForge
  112. Maybe it would be easier for the people who hate Nutty Yahoo to get rid of him if they would pardon him? If they are woke I suppose pardon in not in their vocabulary.

    Not that I care what happens to Israel. Or Imperial Washington for that matter.

  113. Baxter says:

    Mr.Shamir says that the Israeli government may be just hare-brained enough to do something incredibly masochistic, which in my mind is begging the question-
    What is the long-term goal?
    What is the short-term goal?

  114. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon

    The only “surprising” thing is that anyone finds the results of this study “surprising.”

    It is bloody obvious from looking at them the Ashkenazim are European, not “from the Holy Land.”

  115. Skeptikal says:
    @The Real World

    There is no “hygiene” need whatsoever for circumcision.

    You can laff all you want, but you are, quite simply, barking up a nonexistent tree.

    My post certainly does not make your point that circumcision adds anything to a person’s health in the modern world. And probably never did. In fact, it is totally disgusting, not only the cutting, but the sucking of the blood. This itself can introduce bacteria from the mouth to the wound; indeed, even without the bacteria-laden sucking activity, infection often results from circumcision.

    You really do not know WTF you are talking about.

    You slide over the point that this barbaric custom is what actually constitutes the Jews’ “covenant with God.” Nothing to do with hygiene. It pure mumbo-jumbo.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
  116. @A123

    Again the blame the victims game by this Hasbarfa scumbag. “Iranian Hamas destroyed the fresh water aquifer”. …You mean that it was not effectuated by Operation Cast Lead. You Talmudist fanatics lie like rugs and then cast blame everywhere except where it belongs…Anything to drive the inhabitants out of their mega-generational lands so as to have a place where parasites can live the high-life on the American taxpayer dollar. Scum!

    You succeed marvelously in giving Jews a black name. There are some plain, ordinary people who are born into Jewish families and live decent, productive lives. Then there are also some who can only be called Noble Jews, who understand the spewing hatred from Talmudist extremists who consider all others as mere cattle (Goyim). Finally, we arrive at the Sanhedrin, the Bnai Brith and all the other connected Jews who, as psychopaths and sociopaths seek total “Chosen” domination of all humanity. Shame!

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  117. JasonT says:
    @israel shamir

    The banksters who control the Western world and want to control the whole world are losing their control due to the collapsing U.S. economy and dollar. It is clear to me that the incident in Wuhan was a bioattack on China perpetrated by the banksters in an effort to bring China to its knees, for which the Chinese took appropriate measures. When the bioattack failed, the banksters reverted to Plan B, which is a fake pandemic in the West based on the seasonal flu and a bogus PCR ‘test’ to collapse the Western governments to take direct control of the West. This is a desperation move because of China’s success at resisting the bioattack.

    One must remember that viruses always mutate toward less virulence. The ‘pandemic’ in the West is largely a hoax based on the seasonal flu supplemented by lying in the media, corruption of Western medical establishments and the shear stupidity of the average person in the West.

    We are in the end game (and in the End Times). The Western banksters will not tolerate losing even though it is painfully apparent they will. They will, however, take the rest of the West down with them.

    In short, there is no blowback from a virus. There is blowback from a failed bioattack on China that manifests as a fake pandemic in the West perpetrated by the banksters who see their dreams of world domination coming to an end.

  118. @Ron Unz

    Not quite. An oil spill which might even be blameable on Iran is not in the same league as a major outbreak of a new disease. I wonder whether you remain in love with your thesis based on ABC radio and Israeli reports of warning in November by a specialised US intelligence agency that there was a disease problem in Wuhan. If so, you really should answer the product of my Aha moment when I saw and posted the really obvious,viz, that US intelligence would have one or more insiders at the the Wuhan labs (90% probable??) and accordingly knew about some accidentally infected person having spread a disease to others outside the lab.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  119. Watch all the videos in this thread

  120. Seraphim says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Now, after the conclusions of the investigation demanded by Oz that it was ‘Extremely unlikely the virus escaped from a lab’ (as your own Dr. Dominic Dwyer emphatically said), to continue to peddle the ‘Wuhan lab theory’, is a show of misplaced Oz patriotism. Mr. Scomo and Ms. Payne have egg on their faces.

  121. @The Real World

    [Too much off-topic circumcision nonsense.]

  122. anon[290] • Disclaimer says:

    The COVID 19 Hoax is the latest SCAM of a long line of Scams foisted on Humanity by the Self-Chosenites. The COVID 19 Virus to date has never been scientifically isolated, separated nor scientifically studied under a microscope to date but a miraculously cure vaccine has been discovered to save all of humanity. What a coincidence that Richard Rothschild in 2017 just happened to purchase, patented the COVID 19 Test, manufactured, then conveniently, stores the COVID 19 Test in his warehouse ready to be sold to governments around the world the masses for this COVID 19. The COVID 19 test that has a 94% to 97% a False Positive results are still used to inject a poison vaccine that has never been tested determine its safety. The COVID 19 Test kit that spews test results that KIWI Fruit, Papaya, Apple Juice, Water, saliva from Goats and rabits ant etc tests Positive for COVID 19 infection. That is a COVID 19 Test where the Inventor of the that test Dr. Kary Mullis is on record stated that the test was never created for COVID 19 and will spew out False Positive results for COVID 19 infections.

    [MORE]

    The COVID 19 Scam was a Pre- Planned Crime against Humanity and conveniently blame was place on Wuhan China. The Jew Cabal created to distract humanity when the Economic Bubble was about to Burst and Deflate. The COVID 19 was planned in advance by the Rothschild Cabal as a Scape Goat to Blame for the complete Destruction not only of the American Economy but the Economies of the whole World. COVID 19 Lockdown was an godsend to Halt the Stock Market from complete Melt Down. The COVID Hoax was a means to Halt trading on the Stock Market to cool down the economy from a Total Melt Down. Without the COVID 19 SCAM the Too Big to Fail ZOMBI Jewish Banks in the USA and around the World would have had to be Declared insolvent by the USA Government had not declared an COVID 19 Lockdown emergency and a halt to trading on the Stock Market. . The small Stock Market individual investors were not permitted to trade on the Stock Market but the Rothschild Jewish Federal Reserve Ponzi SCHEME Bank partnered with the Jewish Black Rock Hedge Fund and the Jewish Elite to trade on the Stock Market. The Jewish Black Rock Hedge Fund with Federal Reserve Funds was permitted to Bail itself out to the tune of 750 Billion Dollars. By the way this Jewish Black Rock Hedge Fund is not obligated to pay back the American citizens the money that the Rothschild Jewish Ponzi Scheme Bank showered them with to bail out the Largest private Jewish Hedge Fund in the World. The Jewish Black Rock Hedge Fund was appointed by Rothschild Federal Reserve Ponzi Scheme Bank to buy Stocks and Bonds of Banks and Jewish owned banks to facilitate the Greatest Transfer of Wealth the has ever seen. The Jews at the Secretary of the Treasury, the Rothschild Federal Reserve Ponzi Scheme Bank, the Jew Banksters of the 5 TOO BIG to Fail ZOMBI Banks gathered together to not to keep any minutes of what was said at the meeting and not to keep any records of who and to whom, what amount and where the money went to. They called it stimulus money to help the people where for every dollar that the citizens received the Jew Banksters got over 1000 dollars.The COVID 19 Pandemic will never end so as to assure that each and last cent is transfered from the people and into the hands of the Greedy Rothschild Jew Bankster Cabal.

    None of this was or will be reported in the Jew owned and controlled Corrupt Mass media in their garbage that they spew out to the Dumbed -Down in what they call the news. They will instead report their Fake News muddied with reports of fair elections, hate speech,
    how millions of people are dead and dying from COVID 19, that the Vaccine is the cure for COVID 19, that Biden is the legitimate elected President and will solve the nations problems with endless stimulus packages and etc
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/bR5HF0hNzZvI/-








    https://www.bitchute.com/video/FHBjytJysPBQ/.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  123. @The Real World

    What an utterly idiotic piece of shit you are. There is no point in bothering to reply to your contemptible vomit, you crass, totalitarian, sanctimonious, and parasitic dirtbag.

    One more commenter on the Ignore list.

    Asshole.

  124. Sam J. says:

    “…We do not know how or where the Covid originated; but the first country affected by Covid (after the outbreak in Wuhan, in China) was Iran, where members of the government fell ill at the same time, with a particularly tough and deadly strain…”

    This made me suspicious but the next few links made it clear to me the Israelis did corona. A Israeli researcher said immediately after corona had really broken out that they, in a Cohencidence, just happened to be working the same strain in chickens and could have a vaccine in 6 weeks.

    https://nocamels.com/2020/03/israeli-scientists-avian-vaccine-adapt-coronavirus/

    https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/02/27/this-israeli-vaccine-could-solve-the-corona-crisis/

    https://jewishjournal.com/israel/313816/israeli-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-in-a-few-weeks-science-minister-says/

    Ding, ding, ding. That did it for me. Even more telling is that since we’ve not heard a thing from these people. I suspect the vaccine researcher that said this could not contain himself from precounting the shekels he was going to rake in on vaccines but someone told him to shut the hell up as it’s easy to note that the viruses for chickens and humans are different and how odd it would be that they could have a vaccine in 6 weeks, Note they bought their vaccines from elsewhere.

    It’s difficult to know if Israel Shamir, who doesn’t mention this odd Israeli vaccine attempted shekel grab, or Unz who has been pushing that “the Americans did it” are just self deceiving themselves or trying to keep the whole world from realizing that the Jews are trying to murder them all and don’t want to be included. Both tell the truth about a lot of things but this is too hot for even them.

    Who benefits. The Americans in no way at all could benefit from this nonsense. First they are not so stupid as to believe it could be released in China and not make it’s way to the US. Even our brain dead government is not that stupid. And the US would be tempting a vast blow back that can in no way even remotely counter any benefit they could gain. And at that what exactly could they gain compared to the risk? The US is a declining empire they want stability not chaos.

    But the Jews…everyone has heard, or should have, about the Jews plans to move from the US. They even had public papers printed about the think tank studying the move. It’s also widely thought that the Chinese in some way told the Jews to fuck off or screwed them in some way. At the least letting them know they were never going to move to China and run it like they have run the west.

    This is classic Jew behavior. Text book. Psychopathic attack. Cook up a virus to attack the Chinese and Iranians while they have clues already to make vaccines then blame it on the Americans. Unfortunately for them the Chinese were very quick and stopped it. Over time corona, declared by over five different viral research centers tied to government lavatories to have evidence of being engineered. They promised papers outlining this then all of them removed them The virus has started to fall apart and be less lethal just like weaponized viruses act because they are less stable so now the plan is to vax us to death with vaxes with unknown consequences. Other mRNA vaccines have caused serious damage and death to people that they were tested on. Search “Pathogenic priming”.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

    https://varjager.wordpress.com/2021/01/30/dr-lee-merritt-in-animal-studies-after-being-injected-with-mrna-technology-all-animals-died-upon-reinfection/

    We don’t know the final outcome of this one. If it’s like chicken mRNA vaccines it turns out this causes the virus to become vastly more lethal as it reduces symptoms for the vaxed but does not suppress the virus itself.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

    The Jewish universe is good for Jews. It is a curse for others. In the US, as Jewish influence has grown steadily since 1968, the lives of ordinary people have worsened. A good time for the Jews is not a good time for mankind. The blessing of the Jews is a curse for others. The regimes that are “good for Jews” are rarely good for anybody else.

    Israel Shamir

    “They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.”

    VOLTAIRE

    • Thanks: Theophrastus
  125. Ma Laoshi says:
    @follyofwar

    They seemed quite likeable, more worthy of worship than a middle eastern Jewish man named Jesus.

    Needless to say their romantic exploits regularly led to pissed-off wives, but it’s precisely their follies and weaknesses that made the Greek gods’ adventures so suitable to learn about ourselves. No, women couldn’t vote, but their beauty was honored with statues and stories. I think Greece as the Holy Land would cause much less trouble than … that other country or Saudi Arabia–and hey, the Greeks surely could use the tourism income.

    For so long, I’ve followed the apologetic consensus of the secular mainstream “One should appreciate the Bible stories in the context of those barbaric times”. But is that even true? The Phoenicians sailed all over the Med; the Persians traveled all across Asia with their caravans; the Egyptians built pyramids (not sure how civilized that was in practice, but an astounding achievement all the same); the Greeks had philosophy, theater, and geometry; and the Chinese, well, hors concours. So many options to base your society on; how on Earth did we pick that vengeful tribe of circumcisions, stonings, and swinging chickens over your head? But you see it in this very thread: people are still obsessed by the same Bronze-age myths — still arguing over what the Prophet supposedly meant when he’s alleged to have said…

    For me, it was an eye-opening moment when people literally started building altars to that revolting drug dealer Saint George (Floyd), just because their jewish masters told them to. Western society is going nowhere fast, and it’d be hard to convince me that its people deserve any better.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Thanks: follyofwar, Johan
    • Replies: @Johan
  126. @Old and Grumpy

    Yes, that is possible. I bet they’ve got at least a portion of every American’s DNA already. Since most Americans are of European ancestry that could explain why the West has been hammered by the virus. It is possible the West is just incompetent. The DIA gave Israel and NATO early warning according to the articles mentioned in Ron Unz’s comment (number 47.). It isn’t like they didn’t know. I know the US is run by imbeciles but Europe, and Israel? Israel with its tiny population has more cases than China, Japan, and South Korea combined. They were forewarned. It is hard to accept that East Asia is that more competent than everyone else. Also Nigeria, with a population of ~200 million has only 163,837 cases according to Johns Hopkin’s COVID-19 map. How is it that these poor African countries that white nationalist paint as hopelessly stupid have such low COVID-19 infection rates? If having a low number of COVID-19 cases is a sign of intelligence then white nationalist need to go back to the drawing board. It is possible the cases are under reported or the result of having to deal with the terror of Ebola?

    China can be demonized, vaccine passports are another way to track us along with the cellphone, and they got to test novel mRNA vaccines on us. They have successfully taught people to acquiesce to experts.

    Sam Husseini has been writing about the bioweapon aspect of it. “Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance Has Hidden Almost $40 Million In Pentagon Funding And Militarized Pandemic Science.”
    https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/

    https://husseini.posthaven.com/origin-of-pandemic-and-biowarfare-writings-and-interviews

    • Replies: @Johan
  127. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    The most perfidious Jews (((including you, you prick))) simply don’t understand that their lies and evil are now so monstrous that blowback is coming.

    Enjoy when it happens, asshole123.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
  128. @A123

    I know that some arabs are terrorists – and I am also convinced that the occulted networks have a hand in that, through various shadowy fake-muslim fronts.

    But you essentially present an extremely skewed picture of what is going on when you do not take into account that there is Israeli terrorism as well – and lots of it.

    Nobody who knows about these things is going to take you seriously until you realize that.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  129. Seraphim says:
    @anarchyst

    They might have ‘respect’ for Jesus, but it doesn’t translate in respect for Christians whom they treat with the same hatred and contempt like the ‘belief system’ that inspired Mahomed and that ‘ain’t Christianity’.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Anonymous
  130. @Renoman

    Who needs an untimely revenge for Sodom and Gomorrha ?!

    Taking over Jerusalem with gay pride marches didn’t really work, so now the time has come for nukes.

    The millenia-long fight is coming to its end. Be careful. Be very careful.

  131. anarchyst says:
    @Seraphim

    I would trust a muslim over a jew any day. Yes, jews and muslims are closely related, and if the need arises, jews would ally with the muslims. Of course, it would be jewish manipulation that would be responsible for such a scenario.
    That being said, respect for Jesus Christ goes a long way in determining the intent of a religious group.
    In israel all one has to do is observe Christian clergy and other Christians that are routinely spat on by jews. “Price tagging” (destruction and vandalism) of Christian buildings is also part of the jewish way. You see, jews want ALL gentiles out…no exceptions, except for the misguided “Christian evangelicals” who are given free trips to israel under carefully orchestrated (brainwashing) conditions (as long as the American shekels keep flowing).

  132. Cowboy says:
    @noname27

    So if I hate Jews I can’t be called antisemitic. Good to know

  133. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    PTSD-afflicted IDF veteran sets himself alight, suffers serious burns
    A day before annual Memorial Day eve, Itzik Saidyan, 26, self-immolates at entrance to Defense Ministry office for rehabilitation of injured former soldiers
    By JUDAH ARI GROSS
    12 April 2021, 9:07 pm 0 Times of Israel

    He should have alighted entire Israel excluding the Palestinian .Or at least the entire Neocons who enjoy Israeli citizenship and residency .

  134. noname27 says: • Website
    @Anon

    said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England…

    Oh well that MUST be right! LOL

    DNA = quack pseudo-science, much the same as Radio Carbon dating:

    “You read books and find statements that such and such a society or archaeological site is [claimed to be] 20,000 years old. We learned rather abruptly that these numbers, these ancient ages, are not known (speculations and imaginative guesses); in fact it is about the time of the first dynasty in Egypt that the date of any real certainty has been established.”

    — Dr Willard Libby, Nobel Prize winner who invented Carbon Dating and who also worked on The Manhattan Project

    FYI Ashkenaz was a son of Japheth; patriarch of ALL the oriental yellow skinned slit eyed peoples.

  135. @Anon

    What you are talking about are Phoenicians/Carthaginians, the ones obsessed with endogamy, forbidden in Old Testament, the ones obsessed with Baal etc.
    They are actually enemies of the real Jews, in the sense of sons of Shem.

    One should note the attention which has been recently lavished on Canaanites by the zionists.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-shows-canaanites-israelites-biblical-frenemies-kept-genetic-integrity/

    Remarkable people, those Canaanites… obsessed with ‘bloodlines’ (actually, female bloodlines) as Jews are (or even more)…where are they keeping their genetic integrity now…? Why did Albert Einstein divorce his first wife in order to marry his niece? It was bad for his creativity, but apparently it did not count: only family counts. Why?
    These people are deadly scared of extinction. They know God does not love them.
    These people once preserved their bloodlines through sacred prostitution.

    https://rabbisylviarothschild.com/2016/12/22/tamar-taking-her-destiny-in-her-own-hands-she-will-enable-the-messiah-parashat-vayeshev/

    This is the question even Jews are unable to answer…. why Messiah must be of the Davidic line, a line of the forbidden Canaanite blood (through Tamar and Ruth)?

    Rabbi Rothschild gives the game:

    ‘We will learn from this genealogy that King David will descend from the line of Perez – that both Tamar the Canaanite woman and Ruth the Moabite woman will pivot history in order to bring about the birth of the messianic line. But why does King David and why will his messianic descendant need to be born of such deceptive sexual encounters orchestrated by the women? This is a question yet to be satisfactorily answered.’

    For more, go to the unofficial Phoenician/Carthaginian thread:

    https://www.unz.com/article/sir-richard-francis-burton-explorer-linguist-race-realist/

  136. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Stick to truth and leave the propaganda to A123 the Christian.

  137. @anon

    Excellent information, but you sure could use with some copy-editing. Also please make a serious effort to employ paragraphs. The pleasure of paragraphing is to sweeten and shorten the doses to make them more punchy, digestible and easy to read.

    My recommendation would be a short online course in basic journalistic techniques…or perhaps an elementary textbook in readable communications skills.

    Good luck with your studies. I’m looking forward to enjoying your progress.

  138. Johan says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    Perhaps one should appreciate Christian Europe, when even in the nineteenth century major cities like London and Paris where still open sewers, while in what once was a big city developed many centuries before by Muslim culture, Cordoba in Spain, there had been extensive facilities related to hygiene.
    Today Western Christians would say, oh these were just barbaric times, sweeping under the carpet the enormous part which Christianity played in holding back science, if any science was allowed. They try to whitewash everything, or to sweep in under the carpet. The history of Christian Europe is an abomination.

  139. @Johan

    This obsession with hygiene as a hallmark of civilzation is getting boring. As a counterpoint: the Chinese civilization is older than the Japanese one, yet probably the latter appreciates cleannes more than the former.

    Alexander Dugin put it well (one of few things upon which I can agree with him):

    ‘When I was walking the streets of Paris recently, I suddenly noticed that I was missing something. And I realized it was odorless, sterile, aseptic. The only fragrance in the West is perfume. Earth, air, flowers, trees only started to smell in Poland, and when I returned to Russia, I plunged into the madness of smells. The West is dead land. It will only come back to life when it is settled by Cossacks, Tajiks, and Kazakhs. They will bring life with them, they will bring fragrances.’

    Here is an appropriate saying which reveals moral dangers of cleanness:
    ‘When you see a clean surface, you don’t see filth inside’

    Besides, no church hampered Muslims in developing their own sciences. They took what they could from Romans and Byzantines (Greeks) but didn’t go much further on their own.

    • Replies: @Johan
  140. @Seraphim

    Well I’ve read what Dominic Dwyer said
    https://theconversation.com/i-was-the-australian-doctor-on-the-whos-covid-19-mission-to-china-heres-what-we-found-about-the-origins-of-the-coronavirus-155554

    There were so many possibilities left open that I wouldn’t trust a nice honest scientist to detect a cover up of something embarrassing to the CCP having happened at the institute. Equally, if you accept his opinion about dates you don’t get any support for Ron’s theory.

  141. @Seraphim

    What is more it is conceivable that US intelligence insider(s) could have reported something that was only feared but didn’t eventuate, or that was not necessarily about something originating the the institute. It might have been something starting in the wet market that someone at the institute was inevitably more alert to than others would have been.

  142. @Wizard of Oz

    You must be an avid Sky News bot. Love little Sharri Markson do you? The Wuhan lab leak bulldust is bog-standard racist, Sinophobic lies, and pathopsychological projection. This virus has Made in the USA all over it, and the only question is did it leak from the sieve known as AMRIID at Fort Detrick, or was deliberately released, but, Frankenstein’s monster like, turned on its creators.

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  143. @A123

    Your lying and racist hatred are stupefying, even for an hardcore Zionazi thug, or Sabbat Goy stooge. Undoubtedly when your ilk take over Israel, genocide or total expulsion, even for the ‘Arab Israelis’ is certain. When you make xenophobic hatred your God and religion, it will turn on you, too, one day.

  144. Sam J. says:
    @Johan

    “…in what once was a big city developed many centuries before by Muslim culture, Cordoba in Spain, there had been extensive facilities related to hygiene…”

    You just made that shit up. The sewers were built by the Romans.

    “…Aqua Augusta
    In this period a network of streets and sewers was built as was the first aqueduct…”

    http://www.romanaqueducts.info/aquasite/cordoba/index.html

  145. Johan says:
    @Another Polish Perspective

    The so called ”hygiene’ in the Western world amounts to a vulgar artificial materialism. The masks and the Corona related cleaning products express extreme vulgarity which goes by the name of hygiene.

    But this vulgar obsessed hygiene is not new, the supermarkets were full of tons of chemical cleaning products already. Also the perfumes are chemical and aggressive, these destroy the ability of smelling finer fragrances. For a man who’s finer sense of smell is not wholly destroyed by modern life, the masks immediately reduces his capacity of smelling to a great degree, but the masses do not notice this. But it is not only the artificially vulgar masses, the Western elites are even more artificially vulgar. The same applies to other senses, taste, hearing, all destroyed by its culture of artificial vulgarity.

    “Besides, no church hampered Muslims in developing their own sciences. They took what they could from Romans and Byzantines (Greeks) but didn’t go much further on their own. ”

    The Muslims developed an art style of their own. The Romans took many things from the Greeks.
    We could go on and endless discussion about who took things, the Muslims at least took things, Christian Europe counteracted all things many centuries. Protestantism even went on a rage of cultural destruction. Protestantism went back to the Western roots of barbarism, the Bible.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  146. Johan says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    ” vaccine passports are another way to track us along with the cellphone”

    The dumb-phone first of all is there to further destroy the power of concentration of half idiots and zombies. The reason why the conspiracy theorists focus only on tracking is that their target public at large owns dumb-phones, so they would offend them if they would take it from this angle. After all, they bought the dumb thing and use it out of their free will mostly.

    Same with 4G, the reason for the rollout of 4G among others is that it provides more play of the ‘bread and play’ part for the masses. Since the greatest part of the public of the conspiracy theorists is average man owning a smart phone, still a social media, consumerist and moving images fan.. fan of all what is dumb .And since fantastic blame theories have a certain attraction, the alarmists conjured up all kinds of fascinating wild theories about 4G.

    About tracking
    It is consumerist, commercialism and data obsessed society at large which has given rise to this tracking and data collecting obsessed society already for decades, including the ‘democratic’ state, and with the cooperation of the public at large, and on many levels of society, from high to low. Bummer! That doesn’t allow to blame elites, hmm, just shove it under the carpet, these are really the plans of evil elites, yeah, they have been planning that all along, to trick us into it..

    Rule number one: Never offend your target audience.
    The conspiracy theorists really don’t want their target audience to think for themselves, and to use their common sense. It is a real bummer to reflect on yourself, it doesn’t bring about the necessary sensation and alarmist mood, and it doesn’t allow for what is highly favored and ultimately human, to put the blame somewhere else.

  147. @Jake

    The Reformation cleaved Christendom and so served anti-Christ. Luther himself determined that the Reformation must be Judaizing by decreeing that the Christian Old Testament was not the Septuagint (which was used by the early Christians) but instead was what Jews declared it to be – Luther took the side of Jews against the Church and so set the basis for the Reformation being Judaizing.

    Thank you, Jake, for mentioning this new-to-me matter of the Septuagint.

    Does this

    … but instead was what Jews declared it to be…

    relate to history Mefobills

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Mefobills

    describes of the Jews in Amsterdam where they had cornered the financial markets after being expelled from Spain in 1492 printing Bibles for profitless distribution throughout Christendom (or at least its northwest region)?

  148. @Johan

    Reason why Luther and his later Protestants went back to the Bible was that the HRC church was so utterly corrupted at the time—selling Indulgences and all—that they felt that the only possible route out of the quagmire was that which they honestly believed to be the foundation of their religion, Constantine’s bible.

    That the book itself had been massively corrupted with Connie’s gang going along with his imperial directives and redacting and removing, for example, references to reincarnation and additional sayings by Jesus that Salvation is within all of us as we all are emanations of Creator and by their inserted control mechanism of eternal damnation rather than the eternal aspects of our spirits.

    Basically, the rebelling Protestants were flying in the dark. They were gradually emerging from the Dark Ages following the Imperial church’s destruction of all literature which did not fit into their control paradigms. Their “sin”, if you want to call it that, was one of utter ignorance of how the teachings of Jesus had been redacted, removed and corrupted by means of the Empire striking back against the spiritual pathways that the Christed one taught.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Johan
  149. Seraphim says:
    @Majority of One

    How do you expect to be taken seriously when you talk about the Church as ‘Connie’s gang’? Aggressive ignorance. You don’t know, by far, what you’re talking about. They hate the Bible because it says: ”Woe to them that are wise in their own conceit, and knowing in their own sight”.

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  150. Johan says:
    @Majority of One

    Like Tocqueville wrote, a mass religion should exist of easy to understand simple guidelines and ideas, these should make an easy appeal to the masses. The Bible is full of contradictions, the parts have been altered and tampered with, things are added, things are removed, there is the ugly mean stuff of the Jews, and their propaganda. It also consists of a great deal of esoteric symbolism which without manual cannot be understood and are always wrongly understood. Besides, in the Bible itself is written that the prophet Jesus only taught an inner circle, there are just a few lines for the non disciples.

    Protestantism is that religion where each one interprets the Bible in accordance with his individual idiocy, ignorance and the web of individual complexes in his psyche, and where each such idiot has a direct phone line with either god or Jesus.. A total mess, unsuitable as a religion, which should be composed so to appeal to a collective.
    There are pearls in the Bible, but Protestantism is based upon a mess and mud. Making the individuals Bible readers was a great mistake.

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    , @Majority of One
  151. Seraphim says:

    What ‘Bible’ do you read where it is ”written that the prophet Jesus only taught an inner circle, there are just a few lines for the non disciples”.
    In the one that we read it is written:
    “I spoke openly to the world, I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Jews always meet, and in secret I have said nothing.”
    What is the Sermon on the Mount? The Bread of Life Discourse? The teaching to the Pharisees? His performing miracles in public?

  152. A123 says:
    @Johan

    The Bible is full of contradictions, the parts have been altered and tampered with, things are added, things are removed,

    The saving grace of Christianity is that it is not attached to the literal text of one specific document. There are many Bibles. The various Books in the Bible started as imperfect works of mortal men doing their best to document glimpses of the Devine. Then they were translated, edited, and retranslated. The King James (Version 2, 1769) fixed many of the contradictions and is the most commonly used English language Bible today. The majority of traditional Christians, including Protestant Christians, understand this and look to the stories of the Bible for spirit and intent (not minute detail).

    Taking the Bible out of Latin and into the native language of Christians was essential to avoid over centralization and rigid dogma. This provides flexibility in the face of change, and has allowed Christianity to embrace advances that better mankind.
    ____

    The SJW Globalists that claim to be Christian are quite baffling. Occasionally there are familiar words, but their claims make no sense. The #1 purpose of Christianity is protecting Christian children so they can grow up and have more Christian children.

    Catholicism is the worst off of all Christian traditions. Allowing Muslim Rape-ugees into Europe to assault under aged Christian girls is an anti-Christian belief. The IslamoPope is placing Christian children at risk.

    • Why are Catholics doing nothing to remove this obviously anti-Christian Pope?
    • Why didn’t the Catholic Church throw out Joe Biden decades ago?
    • Fundamentally — Is the Catholic Church still Christian?

    I am glad that I am a Protestant. The collapse of Catholicism is unfortunate, but it has no impact on my traditional Christian values & beliefs.

    PEACE 😇

  153. @Seraphim

    You are totally deluded. Exorcise your Demons.

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  154. @Johan

    Catholicism and all orthodox pseudo-Christianity was utterly corrupted in its establishment by the Fukkin Roman Empire. A true religion would be based on the simple precepts of Jesus/Jehoshua.

  155. Seraphim says:
    @Majority of One

    I do pray that the Legion of demons that torment all you blasphemers of the Son of God Most High go away in the wilderness into the herd of swine.

  156. @Jake

    Also, might this event, the 500th Anniversary of which is upcoming, have been precipitated by the “Bibles” printed by Amsterdam Jews after their 1492 expulsion from Spain?

    https://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/2021/04/15/ach-1494-dr-peter-hammond-the-real-story-of-martin-luthers-courageous-stand-500-years-ago/

  157. @Majority of One

    I actually think that this was intended.

    The likeliest truth is that Josephus wrote tbe Gospels under the sponsorship of the Flavians. The intention was to create a non-aggressive sect of judaism.
    Think: in 1st c ad Palestine the problem was that the average jew was likely to be anti-hellenist and anti-empire, ie. nationalistic. By introducing a universal, pacifistic religion you could negate the number one problem in the Empire: jewish rebellions.
    The instability in palestine put the Flavians into power but they had to correct the root of the problem or be stuck with a constant headache: rebellions.
    Even with Christian doctrines and Paul, likely a Roman agent, the Empire still had most of its problems due to jews:Kitos war in Egypt and the 2nd Jewish war in Palestine.
    After the 2nd Jewish War things finally settled down but I don’t think any historian feels satisfied that they can answer why?
    Still, the new religion, a jewish spin on a ‘mystery religion’, did grow but slowly. Even in the 4thc under Constantine, Christians were still a minority.
    It is clear that without Constantine’s sponsorship, Christianity would have grow slowly. He invested in building churches in Constantinople and provided a great deal of support. Because of the huge amount of fraudulent scripture, he was active in editing works and expunging them.
    Clearly, a very inorganic if not outright ‘fake’ process especially compared to other societies like Egypt. The thing is that Rome had been conquering peoples AND their gods for centuries. It is a very short move from conquering other religions then molding them to fit into your culture to manipulating judaism to create christianity. The Romans did not just start with Christ, that was just their final masterpiece of manipulation.

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  158. Seraphim says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    You joined the ‘Caesar’s Messiah/Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah’ the roving circus of Atwill/Eisen(con)man/Carrier. How much did you pay for Atwill’s initiatory ‘presentations’ (We understand that he usually charged $55)? Are you paid for your performance?
    But we must be grateful you offer it for free. I always said that we need moments of comic relief. We can’t wait for your next performance.

  159. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I can understand why a more serious commenter has decided to put you on the Ignore list. Your blustering assertions of certainties you give no sign of being able to back up with evidence and logic destroys your persuasiveness and credibility . I have no idea why you think I watch Sky News – because I don’t (maybe 5 minutes in two years) – and Sherri Markson is just a name that I suppose identifies a female media person.

    Far from being a Sinophobe you will find in my UR comments that I positively welcome the Chinese immigration to Australia
    that has probably kept our national IQ from dropping….

  160. @Ron Unz

    Your imagination has let you down and so you have got your probabilities wrong. I concede that your hypothetical rogue elements, whose identity you give no clues about, might well have been stupid or careless about the spreadabilty they assumed (though that suggests that they wouldn’t have expected to do much harm to China) but that doesn’t get close to positive evidence.

    The key probability is that US intelligence would have had contacts in the Wuhan Institute. I understand that part of the Institute was only a few hundred metres from the wet market. That adds to the possible details of a story relayed from an Institute contact. He/she might just report concern about a staff member who could have picked up a new coronavirus at the wet market (“we don’t think it’s anything escaped from our labs”) and, if so, there was reason for great concern, not least because several of her family had shown symptoms of a respiratory disease and one was very ill. As to the Chinese government not knowing about it. Sure. Just think what happened to the doctor who raised his concerns with fellow doctors.

  161. @Ron Unz

    You might wish to follow up your despairing of truth or even honest assessment of the probable and possible in US MSM by seeing how the BBC describes China’s behaviour wrt the new coronavirus from 1st December 2019 onwards. It had not occurred to me that China was in breach of the law in its failures of disclosure. That is alleged with an appearance of certainty. Presumably it is a modern treaty obligation rather than anything that can, with some faint plausibility, be said to be a legacy of (non Chinese) imperial imposition as in the case of its claims on the South China Sea.

    Googling for BBC china documentary etc produces a lot of results but the following seems to refer to the BBC program that I watched last night on Austrlian ABC TV’s Four Corners. No doubt you will remain unhappy that your theory is ignored and that, indeed, no mention is made of the ABC Radio and Israel TV reports which appear to date the outbreak of Covid 19 to November or earlier.

    https://newsabc.net/wuhan-doctor-confirms-in-new-bbc-documentary-that-china-wanted-to-cover-up-the-coronavirus/

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
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  162. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You might wish to follow up your despairing of truth or even honest assessment of the probable and possible in US MSM by seeing how the BBC describes China’s behaviour wrt the new coronavirus from 1st December 2019 onwards. It had not occurred to me that China was in breach of the law in its failures of disclosure. That is alleged with an appearance of certainty.

    Your problem is that your entire knowledge of the world appears to be based upon the the various television programs that you apparently spend your time endlessly watching. Unfortunately, television is almost pure propaganda, primarily aimed at the ignorant, the dim-witted, or the lazy. You can decide for yourself which of those categories apply to you.

    I have already published numerous articles discussing these issues in tremendous detail, drawing upon the exhaustive analysis provided by the investigative teams of the WSJ, NYT, and AP, as well as outside academic researchers. You have apparently been too busy watching TV to bother reading those articles or the underlying material, so I can’t see why I should bother responding to your extremely foolish remarks.

    I’ve now known you for over twenty years, and I could provide you my very candid assessment of the quality of your reasoning, an assessment that has remained unchanged during all those years. But I think that doing so might be overly unkind.

  163. @Lucy Lipinska

    There is zero evidence of Peter Daszak being Jewish. There is no Jew I ever heard of whose last name is Daszak. Peter Daszak certainly does not identify as Jewish and has apparently no personal connections to Judaism or any Jewish organizations. He is the son of Bohdan Daszak, who was born in Ukraine, and a British mother (maiden name Walton).

  164. @Wizard of Oz

    You wrote: “Equally, if you accept his opinion about dates you don’t get any support for Ron’s theory.”

    I presume you are referring to this paragraph in that piece you linked to:

    A summary of modelling studies of the time to the most recent common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 sequences estimated the start of the pandemic between mid-November and early December.

    Are you referring to the discrepancy between Ron Unz’s hypothesis of a release in mid to late October (the American delegation arrived in China on October 15) and the estimated date of mid-November as the probable start?

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  165. Sorry, no time right now to go over that with due care. If the answer were “yes” what would you say?

    Ron writes a lot of interesting and intelligent stuff but often nicely covered with formulas such as “I really know nothing about X” so I am going to approach this issue from a different angle. Then, despite his real merits and achievements, unwilling to back down or admit error in the face of the myriad inferior intellects infesting UR threads, and fortified by the general approval of a modest selection of the almost great and good he has persisted with his conspiracy theory that he supports with ever more aggression while wriggling to find excuses for the embarrassing fact that, as with most UR conspiracy theatres, the world remains mostly uninterested and almost totally unpersuaded.

    Even capitals are resorted to. There is ZERO evidence of the Chinese (central government?) knowing about the outbreak in November. Sure, but Ron would surely not claim expertise which explains when and how local officials disclose uncomfortable facts to the centre. So nothing there when only one possible explanation is imagined for the course of information and events which led to the denied, but probably actual, medical intelligence unit report. I can understand why Ron makes such brilliant efforts to leave behind the years of (self accused) credulous naiveté, though there are anomalies such as his having seen through the neocons early and his persisting with religious daily reading of the propaganda sheet New York Times while sneering of a major BBC coverage of the Covid 19 story that I mentioned precisely because he professes not to watch TV on the ground that it is “propaganda”.

    I have been trying to help with the reasoning that has, on the Covid origin issue, led nowhere beyond “All of step but my Jim” and the postulation of a group of rogues able and willing to use US bioweapons against China, which is not impossible, but surely pales in probability against the near certainty that US medical intelligence would have Wuhan Institute connections who would be quick to pick up on serious corona virus type symptoms from whatever source. (My earlier hypothesis that the information could have come from US military personnel who had attended the wetmarket and recorded odd symptoms later cannot be dismissed but I regard as less certain).

    I have also expressed surprise that China would not have made something of Ron’s theory. Even here the desperate counter argument that the US so dominates world media that China would want to hold its fire so as not to have its credibility prpagandistically shredded is just a brilliant debater’s improvisation and doesn’t stand up to examination. China could have any number of proxies to use for trying out which anti US conspiracy theory might run. But not even the Iranians have run with it Russia could do it directly or through any number of proxies. Nah, fergetit.

    Do I appear to have been unkind about Ron’s reasoning? Let it be clear that I take seriously the fierce working of his sharp intellect on many issues since the scales fell from his eyes about the media and conventional history. How could it be otherwise for one who wrote in a letter from the early 70s just rediscovered that my problem with Time magazine was that on any subject of which I had independent knowledge Time was always in error. I find that some of Ron’s theories, understandably for a very busy man who can’t help but spread himself a bit thin, have problems with the facts (9/11 is one where even a tireless investigator like Ron seems to have been defeated by sheer weight of facts and factoids) or with probabilities as in the Covid origins case.

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  166. @Brás Cubas

    I have just replied to you. Somehow the connection was lost.

  167. @Wizard of Oz

    Thanks for your reply. Your considerations are reasonable, though I’m not invested in any particular theory. There is a lot we do not know. Indeed, the appearance of the new variants is almost as mysterious as the appearance of the virus itself. And this is not conspiracy theorizing: scientists confess all they have are hypotheses. Nature magazine has just run a story saying scientists are “puzzled” by the new surge in India.

    Thanks for pointing out the BBC documentary. It must make for fun watching, at the very least.

    “If the answer were “yes” what would you say?”

    I’d say, since China has reportedly traced the first known case to November 17, 2019, that hypothesizing a release in late October is not too off. But, as I said, there is a lot we do not know, and also I am neither a virologist nor an epidemiologist.

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  168. @Brás Cubas

    Thank you. How very agreeable to find a civil, civilised voice on UR that is neither tainted with nuttiness or agitated and distorted by pride of ownership and defensiveness.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
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