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Liberals have taken to promoting socialism, which is the state-sanctioned appropriation of private property. Or, communism.

In communism’s parlance, this theft of a man’s life, labor and land is referred to as state-ownership of the means of production.

Liberals are less known for misappropriating intellectual concepts. But they do that, too.

Take the term “liberal.” It once belonged to the good guys. But socialists, communists and Fabians stole it from us.

Having originally denoted the classical liberalism of the 18th and early 19th century, “liberal” used to be a lovely word. However, to be a liberal now is to be a social democrat, a leftist, a BLM, antifa and MeToo movementarian; it’s to be Chris and Andrew Cuomo.

A French classical liberal, Benjamin Constant (1767-1830), explained what liberalism stood for:

“Individuals must enjoy a boundless freedom in the use of their property and the exercise of their labor, as long as in disposing of their property or exercising their labor they do not harm others who have the same rights.” This is the opposite of communism aka socialism.

By harm, classical liberals mean aggression, as in damage to person or property. To contemporary liberals, “harm” encompasses anything from Donald Trump’s delicious tweets to the economic competition posed by a kiddie lemonade stand.

In the UK, those in-the-know still use the word liberal in the right way. The august Economist—essential reading for, unlike American news outlets, it covers The News—has recently lamented that democracies are drifting towards “xenophobic nationalism,” and away from liberal ideas.

At the same time, the magazine allows that “liberalism is a broad church.” It mentions the “Austrians” as being among liberalism’s “forerunners”—a mention that gave me, as a devotee of economist Ludwig von Mises, the opening I needed.

So, let me ask the following:

Have the Economist’s left-liberal editorializers (excellent writers all) read what liberal extraordinaire von Mises had to say about nationalism vis-à-vis immigration?

Mises was a Jewish classical liberal in the best of traditions—a political economist second to none. He escaped the Nazis only to be treated shoddily in the American academy, by the Fabian “forerunners” of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s teachers.

Another formidable, younger classical liberal thinker is David Conway (a friend). Dr. Conway has argued most convincingly and methodically—he’s incapable of arguing any other way—that nationalism is in fact a condition for the emergence of liberalism.

To that end, Conway invokes Mises. In “Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition,” published in 1927, Mises warned that,

“In the absence of any migration barriers whatsoever, vast hordes of immigrants … would … inundate Australia and America. They would come in such great numbers that it would no longer be possible to count on their assimilation. If in the past immigrants to America soon adopted the English language and American ways and customs, this was in part due to the fact that they did not come over all at once in such great numbers. … This … would now change, and there is real danger that the ascendancy—or more correctly, the exclusive dominion—of the Anglo-Saxons in the United States would be destroyed.”

Mises was not only a true liberal, but a master of the art of argument. Still, he didn’t imagine he needed to explain why the West had to stay Western to be free.

And in “Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War,” published in 1944, Mises could not have been more emphatic:

“Under present conditions the adoption of a policy of outright laissez faire and laissez passer on the part of the civilized nations of the West would be equivalent to an unconditional surrender to the totalitarian nations. Take, for instance, the case of migration barriers. Unrestrictedly opening the doors of the Americas, of Australia, and of Western Europe to immigrants would today be equivalent to opening the doors to the vanguards of the armies of Germany, Italy, and Japan.”

As Conway surmises, “Mises feared a massive immigration into the liberal democracies of peoples of vastly different ethnicity, culture and outlooks. Without strict immigration controls, Mises thought, host populations would rapidly become national minorities in their own lands. As such, the hosts would become vulnerable to forms of oppression and persecution at the hands of new arrivals.”

As far back as 1927, when the seminal “Liberalism in the Classical Tradition” was published, Mises, a gentleman from Old World Vienna, understood the following:

Once illiberal, unassimilable people gain “numeric superiority,” they will turn their population advantage into political advantage, using the host population’s liberalism against it.

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Ilana Mercer has been writing a weekly, paleolibertarian column since 1999. She is the author of “Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011) & “The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016). She’s on Twitter, Facebook,Gab & YouTube

 
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  1. Rational says:

    IF INDIANS CAN BE PATRIOTIC AT THE TAJ MAHAL, WHY CAN’T WE ALL BE?

    Excellent article!! Thanks.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders. Invaders were stealing cattle, and women and attacking people, so people got together and said, let’s appoint one of us to guard us. So started Kingdoms.

    Keeping aliens out is the essence of civilization. Let’s ask Indians, who have one of the oldest civilization on earth:

    Here is a quote about the Taj Mahal:

    “For foreigners, the entrance fee for the Taj Mahal is 1,000 rupees. Indian nationals only pay 40 rupees. Children younger than 15 years are free. Tickets can be purchased at ticket offices near the entry gates or online at this website.”

    See: https://www.tripsavvy.com/taj-mahal-essential-travel-guide-1539343

    In other words migrants (the terms libs use for all aliens or foreigners) pay 25 times more than natives just to look inside the Taj Mahal.

    Same with most other attractions, including Elephanta Caves. Indians: Rs. 10. Foreigners: Rs. 250. See:

    http://elephanta.co.in/

    Next time a liberal tries to attack you about your patriotism, tell him about this. If Indians, from one of the oldest civilization in the world, can be patriotic, why can’t we?

    I find this the most effective way to denigrate liberals—use examples from foreign non-white countries that go against them, as it is hard for them to claim “racist, racist” and take the upper ground, morally and culturally. In other words, you are telling a white liberal that he is less cultured and civilized than 3rd world people, who have more sense.

    The liberal often freezes in confusion at this and his/her mind goes blank.

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    • Replies: @erolwolf44!
    That is undoubtedly a great point! Allow me to reinforce it. The best way to defeat the idiotic and asinine arguments of the left is by pointing out that the “ colored” peoples of the world and their civilizations are highly patriarchal ( case in point Islam and contemporary Africa where polygamy is still practiced and homophobia is rampant). Leftists and liberals love to defend Islam, but the irony is that Islam as a religion is actually more socially conservative than even most evangelical Christians in America, demonstrating that Christianity has been so thoroughly watered down that liberalism has hijacked Christianity as well.
    Also, the native Americans, during the American Indian wars if 1845 to 1890 were tenaciously fighting to preserve their traditional way of life from the white onslaught. This makes them CONSERVATIVE. Warriors like Sitting Bull, Red Cloud and crazy horse were patriarchal nationalists and conservatives through and through. Sitting bull had multiple wives. Prophet Muhammad practiced polygamy and encouraged women to dress modestly and save their virginity until marriage. Point that out to a “don’t slut shame me” Western feminist.
    Finally, every major civilization in world history has been patriarchal and conservative, especially the people that leftists love to defend as “ oppressed”. Before whites ever even showed up Africans and native Americans were fighting each other in never ending tribal wars ( nationalism is just modern tribalism, except larger)
    Only retarded western liberals don’t see the irony or contradictions in their worldview.
    , @anon
    "Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908" commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices .

    This is what is called Karma . Indian type .

    Some will add that Vietnamese , Cambodian, Salvadorian are still waiting .
    , @jacques sheete

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders.
     
    That certainly is a common misconception. The invaders themselves probably banded together to get rich quick off of others' work, and eventually led by kings. The kings you're describing probably did arise as you claim, but notice what probably cam first.

    No, if I remember correctly, Herbert Spencer, among others would agree with you, but Oppenheimer, Confucius (Himself a bureaucrat), and Molinari would likely agree with me.

    “The primitive state is the creation of warlike robbery; and only by warlike robbery can it be preserved.”
    - Franz Oppenheimer, The State [1919] , Chap II,(d) the primitive feudal state of higher grade
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1662&Itemid=99999999
     

    [Confucius and his companions], passing through rugged and deserted mountains on their way, were surprised to find an old woman weeping beside a grave.

    Confucius sent Tsze-loo to inquire the cause of her grief. "My husband's father," she answered, "was killed here by a tiger, and my husband also; and now my son has met the same fate." When Confucius asked why she persisted in living in so dangerous a place, she replied: "There is no oppressive government here."

    "My children," said Confucius to his students, "remember this. Oppressive government is fiercer than a tiger."

    Durant, 662 THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION CHAP. XXIII, p 662


    http://classics.mit.edu/Confucius/analects.html
     

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion - Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/molinari-the-society-of-tomorrow

     

    , @The American Libertarian
    Because most Indians will have a hard time getting 1000 rupees together, while it’s chump change to a Western tourist.
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  2. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:

    Ludwig von Mises praised the Nazis as the saviors of European civilization.

    “It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aimed at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has for the moment saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift.”

    Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism

    “The deeds of the Fascists and of other parties corresponding to them were emotional reflex actions evoked by indignation at the deeds of the Bolsheviks and Communists. As soon as the first flush of anger had passed, their policy took a more moderate course and will probably become even more so with the passage of time.”

    Ludwig von Mises

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    • Replies: @Mactoul
    I don't see "Nazi" word anywhere in the quote. In fact, the book Liberalism dates from 1927 that is many years before the Nazi phenomenon. Von Mises was simply uttering a commonplace of the conservative thought that Mussolini had saved Italy from a communist/anarchist takeover.
    , @DoctorDee
    Let’s flesh that out a bit:

    https://mises.org/wire/mises-fascism-again
    , @jacques sheete
    Those two quotes were correct about fascism and people ought to pay attention to what he was saying.

    It's too bad that Mercer taints his good name by associating herself with it in this bonehead article. The so called "right's" record on true liberalism at least in the US, is no better than the so called "left's."

    In fact, only ignoramuses still believe in the really simple minded false dichotomy of political left and right, at least as those terms have been commonly in the US for the last many decades. IOW, the "right" is just as sick and sappy as the "left" here.
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  3. Rich says:

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class. It’s only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can’t help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers’ wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

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    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.
    , @Sollipsist
    That's a tough question. Cesar Chavez himself had some hard words against illegal immigration. I can remember when he was a household name; not long ago I had to explain who he was to an educated 2nd generation Mexican immigrant. This is a world where he's less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.

    Labor unions would seem to be an ideal workable compromise between outright socialism and globalist corporatism. But as you say, it's impossible for workers to have any bargaining power when a host country is flooded with potential scabs. I also don't understand why this is such a blind spot for most leftists.
    , @Realist

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class.
     
    It would also destroy the upper class.
    , @SMK
    "Only muddle-brained leftists" with a "kind of serious mental disorder" support open borders and massive nonwhite immigration?! With some exceptions, such as Ilana, libertarians are open borders fanatics. The billionaire donors, not only leftists like George Soros but also the likes of Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers, are open borders fanatics. The overwhelming majority of Republicans and virtually all "cuckservatives" and neoconservatives, most egregiously the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, John Podhoretz, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens, ad nauseam, support an invasion of tens of millions of nonwhites from the Third-World.
    , @SMK
    In fact, left-liberals and Democrats who support open border and an invasion of tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens from the Third-World, over 90% of whom are nonwhite, are far less insane and far more rational than "conservatives" and Republicans who support open borders and massive nonwhite immigration. The reason is that such laws and policies will soon create a society in which no Republican will ever be elected president again and, ultimately and irreversibly, transform the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country in which nonwhites and white leftists control everything, including the criminal justice (or should one say injustice) system. Crime and the criminal justice system; the ultimate horror of white dispossession, as in South Africa.
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  4. Liza says:

    I wonder whose idea it was to bring in millions of immigrants from Africa and Asia in the first place.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Exactly. Slave traders were liberals and believers in free trade. Libertarians like Koch brothers are for immigration. The liberal capitalism always wants cheap workers.
    , @jilles dykstra
    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
    For what, I do not know, the document was not secret, but hardly anyone knew that it existed.
    Rising average age may have been a consideration, on the other hand, fears that robotisation will replace all simple jobs are all over the place.
    Possibly the illusion of EU economic power was or still is a factor, a leading politician, now disappeared from politics overnight, Schulz, a capable economist with his training in book binding, talked about EU economic power all the time.

    Another factor, I suspect Merkel's motive, is her belief in the evil Germans, guilty of causing two world wars and having perpetrated the gas chamber mass murder.
    She's a phycisist, daughter of a socialist minister in the DDR, that she does not know that Germans are the victims of two world wars to this very day, and that very probably just lice were killed in gas chambers, I really think she does not know.

    So, probably, her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans through mass immigration, on the other destroying European cultures, so that the salvation country Europe can be established.
    It is ghasly to see how nonsense mainstream history of the 20th century determines politics in the European continent in the 21st century.
    , @JoAnnF
    Coudenhove-Kalergi, out of a sense of not-belonging within the Austrian Nobility for being a mongrel - so let all men be mongrels, to psychologically make up for that (but he didn't use these words)
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  5. Mactoul says:
    @Anonymous
    Ludwig von Mises praised the Nazis as the saviors of European civilization.

    "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aimed at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has for the moment saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift."

    Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism
     

    “The deeds of the Fascists and of other parties corresponding to them were emotional reflex actions evoked by indignation at the deeds of the Bolsheviks and Communists. As soon as the first flush of anger had passed, their policy took a more moderate course and will probably become even more so with the passage of time.”

    Ludwig von Mises
     

    I don’t see “Nazi” word anywhere in the quote. In fact, the book Liberalism dates from 1927 that is many years before the Nazi phenomenon. Von Mises was simply uttering a commonplace of the conservative thought that Mussolini had saved Italy from a communist/anarchist takeover.

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    Here you go, Hitler spelled out loud & clear.

    from mises.org by Jew Murray Rothbard:


    "Revisionism has the general function of bringing historical truth to a public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.

    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth. If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions, about the current World War III version of the same myth. Nothing would stop the current headlong flight to war faster, or more surely cause people to begin to reason about foreign affairs once again, after a long orgy of emotion and cliché.

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     

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  6. An excerpt from Thomas Sowell’s book Intellectuals and Society:

    Verbal Cleansing

    The numerous filters at work in both the media and in academia are not random. They reflect a common vision and filter out innumerable things that could threaten that vision. The verbal virtuosity of the intellectuals filters words as well as facts, through what might be called verbal cleansing, much like ethnic cleansing. Words which have acquired particular connotations over the years from the experiences of millions of people in successive generations now have those connotations systematically stripped away by a relatively small number of contemporary intellectuals, who simply substitute different words for the same things until the new words replace the old in the media. Thus “bums” has been replaced by “the homeless,” “swamps” by “wetlands,” and “prostitutes” by “sex workers,” for example.

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    All the things that generations of people have learned from experience about bums, swamps, and prostitutes are in effect erased by the substitution of new words, cleansed of those connotations. Swamps, for example, are often unsightly, slimy, and smelly places, where mosquitoes breed and spread diseases. Sometimes swamps are also places where dangerous creatures like snakes or alligators lurk. But “wetlands” are spoken of in hushed and reverential tones, as one might speak of shrines.

    Newly coined words for old things appear in many contexts, often erasing what experience has taught us about those things. Thus “light rail” has become the fashionable term used by mass transit advocates for things that are very much like what were once called trolleys or street cars, and which were once common in hundreds of American cities. Trolleys were replaced by buses in almost all those cities—for a reason. But now the inconveniences and inefficiencies of trolleys vanish into thin air when they are presented as that new-sounding thing called “light rail,” whose prospective wonders can be described in glowing terms by city planners and other advocates, secure against experience rearing its ugly head through memories or histories of the decline and fall of the trolley car.

    Another significant development in the art of verbal cleansing has been changing the names used to describe people who espouse government intervention in the economy and society, as most intellectuals tend to do. In the United States, such people changed their own designation more than once during the course of the twentieth century. At the beginning of that century, such people called themselves “Progressives.” However, by the 1920s, experience had led American voters to repudiate Progressivism and to elect national governments with a very different philosophy throughout that entire decade. When the Great Depression of the 1930s again brought to power people with the government intervention philosophy—many of whom had served in the Progressive Woodrow Wilson administration—they now changed their name to “liberals,” escaping the connotations of their earlier incarnation, much as people escape their financial debts through bankruptcy.

    The long reign of “liberalism” in the United States—which lasted, with few interruptions, from President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal in the 1930s through President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society of the 1960s—ultimately ended with liberalism being so discredited that later Presidential and other political candidates with long records of liberalism rejected that label or rejected labeling altogether as somehow misleading or unworthy. By the end of the twentieth century, many liberals began calling themselves “progressives,” thus escaping the connotations which liberalism had acquired over the years, but which connotations no longer applied to the word “progressive,” which was from an era too far in the past for most people to associate any experience with that word.

    On October 26, 1988, a long list of leading intellectuals—including John Kenneth Galbraith, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., Daniel Bell, and Robert Merton, among others—signed an advertisement in the New York Times, protesting what they called President Ronald Reagan’s “vilifying one of our oldest and noblest traditions” by making “‘liberal’ and ‘liberalism’ terms of opprobrium.” Reverting to the original meaning of liberalism as “the freedom of individuals to attain their fullest development,” the advertisement did not even recognize—much less defend—what liberalism had come to mean in practice, widespread government interventions in the economy and social engineering.

    Whatever the merits or demerits of those interventions, these were the actual policies advocated and carried out by contemporary liberals, regardless of what the original dictionary definition of the word “liberal” might have meant in times past. But the impassioned advertisement did not even consider the possibility that the actual track record of liberals when in power might have had more to do with the term becoming one of opprobrium than the criticisms made by those with a different philosophy. Moreover, it was presented as something odd and unworthy that conservatives like Ronald Reagan would criticize liberals, as liberals so often criticized conservatives like President Reagan.

    Just as people who criticize liberalism on the basis of the actual behavior of liberals are accused of being against liberalism in its dictionary definition, so people who criticize the actual behavior of intellectuals are often accused of being “anti-intellectual” in the sense of being against intellectual pursuits themselves. Richard Hofstadter’s well-known book Anti-Intellectualism in American Life equated the two things, both in its title and in its text, where he referred to “the national disrespect for mind” and “the qualities in our society that make intellect unpopular.” New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof was one of many who wrote of “the anti-intellectualism that has long been a strain in American life.” Even distinguished scholar Jacques Barzun said: “Intellect is despised,” though he himself has been critical of intellectuals, without being someone who despised intellect. Nor did he find it necessary to try to show that scientists or engineers were despised by most Americans or even by those who were highly critical of the track record of intellectuals in the sense of people whose work begins and ends with ideas.

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    It’s too bad Sowell lacks the self-awareness or honesty to apply his reasoning to his race. “Nigger” or “kaffir” for Ilana, acquired a negative connotation due to the behavior of the so named people. Thus it became “negro” and when that too acquired a negative connotation for the same reason it became “colored”. “African-American” followed but that reminds us of the abject failures endemic to Africa. So we now have a word that began with negative connotation, “Black,” which media and academia are working relentlessly to make into a positive (compare “Black Friday” to “black mood” or “black cloud”). Negroes of course aren’t black and often no more brown than many SE Asians, but it was never about the color, but rather the intelligence and behavior of the subject people.
    , @mcohen
    Great post thank you.
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  7. Liberal is like reckless driver driving for hours, then he turns around and pics up the road kill.

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  8. utu says:
    @Liza
    I wonder whose idea it was to bring in millions of immigrants from Africa and Asia in the first place.

    Exactly. Slave traders were liberals and believers in free trade. Libertarians like Koch brothers are for immigration. The liberal capitalism always wants cheap workers.

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  9. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Why don’t browns want to be with fellow browns in Mexico?

    Why don’t Indians want to fix all the problems in India where there are SO MANY?

    Why do they all want to run from their own kind and come to white nations?

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    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    The welfare state is a big reason.
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  10. Heike says:

    Here’s a 2015 exchange between Ezra Klein and Bernie Sanders that is highly relevant:

    Ezra Klein
    You said being a democratic socialist means a more international view. I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the US are considered out of political bounds. Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. About sharply increasing …

    Bernie Sanders
    Open borders? No, that’s a Koch brothers proposal.

    Ezra Klein
    Really?

    Bernie Sanders
    Of course. That’s a right-wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States. …

    Ezra Klein
    But it would make …

    Bernie Sanders
    Excuse me …

    Ezra Klein
    It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn’t it?

    Bernie Sanders
    It would make everybody in America poorer —you’re doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don’t think there’s any country in the world that believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.

    You know what youth unemployment is in the United States of America today? If you’re a white high school graduate, it’s 33 percent, Hispanic 36 percent, African American 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?

    I think from a moral responsibility we’ve got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don’t do that by making people in this country even poorer.

    Ezra Klein
    Then what are the responsibilities that we have? Someone who is poor by US standards is quite well off by, say, Malaysian standards, so if the calculation goes so easily to the benefit of the person in the US, how do we think about that responsibility?

    We have a nation-state structure. I agree on that. But philosophically, the question is how do you weight it? How do you think about what the foreign aid budget should be? How do you think about poverty abroad?

    Bernie Sanders
    I do weigh it. As a United States senator in Vermont, my first obligation is to make certain kids in my state and kids all over this country have the ability to go to college, which is why I am supporting tuition-free public colleges and universities.

    https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9014491/bernie-sanders-vox-conversation

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  11. @Rational
    IF INDIANS CAN BE PATRIOTIC AT THE TAJ MAHAL, WHY CAN’T WE ALL BE?

    Excellent article!! Thanks.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders. Invaders were stealing cattle, and women and attacking people, so people got together and said, let’s appoint one of us to guard us. So started Kingdoms.

    Keeping aliens out is the essence of civilization. Let’s ask Indians, who have one of the oldest civilization on earth:

    Here is a quote about the Taj Mahal:

    “For foreigners, the entrance fee for the Taj Mahal is 1,000 rupees. Indian nationals only pay 40 rupees. Children younger than 15 years are free. Tickets can be purchased at ticket offices near the entry gates or online at this website.”

    See: https://www.tripsavvy.com/taj-mahal-essential-travel-guide-1539343

    In other words migrants (the terms libs use for all aliens or foreigners) pay 25 times more than natives just to look inside the Taj Mahal.

    Same with most other attractions, including Elephanta Caves. Indians: Rs. 10. Foreigners: Rs. 250. See:

    http://elephanta.co.in/

    Next time a liberal tries to attack you about your patriotism, tell him about this. If Indians, from one of the oldest civilization in the world, can be patriotic, why can’t we?

    I find this the most effective way to denigrate liberals—use examples from foreign non-white countries that go against them, as it is hard for them to claim “racist, racist” and take the upper ground, morally and culturally. In other words, you are telling a white liberal that he is less cultured and civilized than 3rd world people, who have more sense.

    The liberal often freezes in confusion at this and his/her mind goes blank.

    That is undoubtedly a great point! Allow me to reinforce it. The best way to defeat the idiotic and asinine arguments of the left is by pointing out that the “ colored” peoples of the world and their civilizations are highly patriarchal ( case in point Islam and contemporary Africa where polygamy is still practiced and homophobia is rampant). Leftists and liberals love to defend Islam, but the irony is that Islam as a religion is actually more socially conservative than even most evangelical Christians in America, demonstrating that Christianity has been so thoroughly watered down that liberalism has hijacked Christianity as well.
    Also, the native Americans, during the American Indian wars if 1845 to 1890 were tenaciously fighting to preserve their traditional way of life from the white onslaught. This makes them CONSERVATIVE. Warriors like Sitting Bull, Red Cloud and crazy horse were patriarchal nationalists and conservatives through and through. Sitting bull had multiple wives. Prophet Muhammad practiced polygamy and encouraged women to dress modestly and save their virginity until marriage. Point that out to a “don’t slut shame me” Western feminist.
    Finally, every major civilization in world history has been patriarchal and conservative, especially the people that leftists love to defend as “ oppressed”. Before whites ever even showed up Africans and native Americans were fighting each other in never ending tribal wars ( nationalism is just modern tribalism, except larger)
    Only retarded western liberals don’t see the irony or contradictions in their worldview.

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    liberalism has hijacked Christianity as well.
     
    Your arrow of causation is pointed in the wrong direction. Yeshuanity is an alien cult foisted/imposed on Europe by a Semitic tribe. Yeshua himself was a SJW do-gooder who preached that whores were good, capitalism was bad, and we should “share” with malingerers and incompetents - the very essence of communism.

    What Western Civilization has accomplished has been in spite of Yeshuanity, certainly not because of it. Yeshuanity is the noose around our neck. What we see today is Yeshuanity without the underpinnings of traditional underlying European culture and genetic predisposition. I’m not advocating a return to our “pagan” mythologies, but it’s pretty obvious that the “we are all created in the image of YHWH” bullshit is our doom.
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  12. DoctorDee says:
    @Anonymous
    Ludwig von Mises praised the Nazis as the saviors of European civilization.

    "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aimed at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has for the moment saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift."

    Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism
     

    “The deeds of the Fascists and of other parties corresponding to them were emotional reflex actions evoked by indignation at the deeds of the Bolsheviks and Communists. As soon as the first flush of anger had passed, their policy took a more moderate course and will probably become even more so with the passage of time.”

    Ludwig von Mises
     

    Let’s flesh that out a bit:

    https://mises.org/wire/mises-fascism-again

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  13. nevertheless, the core of libertarianism is an atomized humankind via

    open borders/free trade. And did I mention that the

    Holy Trinity of libertarianism:

    (((Alisa Rosenbaum)))-alias “Rand”, (((v. Mises))), and (((Rothbard)))

    are all Jews? Now I did.

    and the core of modern bolshevized liberalism is

    more Jews. Somewhere here

    there is a pattern.

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  14. The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, ‘thanks’ to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

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    I wish Denmark were not in the limelight as the "best" anything. It puts it squarely in the Left's crosshairs as a target for desecration and destruction. Paul Krugman has already led the charge with the article that Steve cited which ostensibly, praises Denmark's virtues. That is not his real intent. He intends to make it an object of envy and thereby bring the malevolent attention of Leftist power down upon it. Poor Denmark is too small to resist the pressures that will now be brought to bear upon her.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    That used to work in Scandinavia when it was all white but with refugees and Muslims have 10 kids the money will run out.
    , @Respect
    These little scandinavian countries , schizoids living in a corner of little Europe , with strange languages and little parochial cultures , always pretend to be a model in everything . How arrogant , how tiresome . Go teach the artic pinguins
    , @Respect
    I am fed up with nordic " models " , 50 years brain washing the europeans and the rest of the world with nordic comunism and perversions . Enough .
    , @Respect
    The EU , and the USA , overtaxes middle clases , working people , and gives the money to the oligarcs , to the oversized Government , and to unproductive people and inmigrants .

    What is the " Welfare State " ? , it is the welfare of the State .
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  15. @Liza
    I wonder whose idea it was to bring in millions of immigrants from Africa and Asia in the first place.

    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
    For what, I do not know, the document was not secret, but hardly anyone knew that it existed.
    Rising average age may have been a consideration, on the other hand, fears that robotisation will replace all simple jobs are all over the place.
    Possibly the illusion of EU economic power was or still is a factor, a leading politician, now disappeared from politics overnight, Schulz, a capable economist with his training in book binding, talked about EU economic power all the time.

    Another factor, I suspect Merkel’s motive, is her belief in the evil Germans, guilty of causing two world wars and having perpetrated the gas chamber mass murder.
    She’s a phycisist, daughter of a socialist minister in the DDR, that she does not know that Germans are the victims of two world wars to this very day, and that very probably just lice were killed in gas chambers, I really think she does not know.

    So, probably, her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans through mass immigration, on the other destroying European cultures, so that the salvation country Europe can be established.
    It is ghasly to see how nonsense mainstream history of the 20th century determines politics in the European continent in the 21st century.

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    her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans
     
    Turning Germans into Dutch. Hitler in his 2nd book wrote:

    But the fewest want to know what this means for Germany. If in the future our people continues living with the same political thoughtlessness as in the past, it will ultimately have to renounce the claim to international significance. It will become more and more stunted racially, until it finally deteriorates into degenerate, brutish gluttons who will not even remember the past greatness. In the context of the future international state hierarchy, it will be at most what Switzerland and Holland were in the previous Europe.
     
    , @S

    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
     
    During the mid to latter 19th century a serious attempt was made in both the United States and Australia to displace their European populations via the importation by diktat of tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves...ie 'cheap laborers' so called. Elements of the corporate media were quite open and blunt about this intention at the time.

    The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present.

    The below excerpt is from pg 118 of the 1853 book The New Rome produced by the major US establishment publisher GP Putnam (now Penguin). This remarkable book is something like a geopolitical future history of the world, with an emphasis on the United States and the United Kingdom and is well worth the time to read.

    …the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians..

    ‘In August, [1852] the number of Chinese emigrants in California was estimated at 50,000…and the Anglos having learned to understand the value of these
    patient laborers, and to treat them accordingly, the influx will soon be greater than ever. If it is as well supported by the masses of the mother country, as that from Europe has been, the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians…From these relations we may calculate upon an emigration of American businessmen to China, in return for that of Chinese laborers to California.’


    Excerpts from pg 511-515 of the 1870 US book One Hundred Years Progress of the United States and its chapter entitled Marvels that our grandchildren will see; or, One hundred years’ progress in the future

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded…’

    ‘The Chinese will come to us, mainly, like some of the European immigrants, as candidates for filling our more menial positions; they will be house-servants, washermen, railroad laborers, miners, laborers in the field, &c…’

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded, they should be admitted to the same political and social privileges with ourselves…‘We say it [‘the Chinese problem’] is in one sense already solved, because it is evident that we can not, if we would, keep them [the Chinese] out, as they are now arriving upon our Pacific coast at the rate of several thousand a week, and already number about 150,000 of our population. ‘Regarding this point as settled, and believing as we do that before 1880 we shall have 5,000,000 of Chinese on this continent, and before 1900, 20,000,000 or 25,000,000…’


    In a Spring 1874 edition the Pall Mall Gazette of London expresses its pleasure that hundreds of thousands of Chinese are being utilized as “cheap labor” (as mentioned previously much more accurately referred to historically as ‘wage slaves’) in such far flung places as North and South America, Hawaii, and in Australia, but laments that there is growing worldwide resistance to this phenomena. The newspaper, besides referring to this “anxiety and alarm” as “out of proportion”, comments that there is…

    ‘A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.’

    In an article that’s reminescent in certain ways of the biblical rendition of Christ’s temptation, the Gazette attempts to pursuade its readers that the Chinese as 'cheap laborers' do work others won’t do, are great cooks, are excellent gardeners, etc. The writer attempts to induce guilt, and lastly, almost beggingly to the reader, makes the claim that untold wealth is to be taken from the Earth if only the Chinese could be brought in to do the work. Finally, the writer acknowledges that peoples’ resistance (particularly from Europeans in Australia and North America) as to their physical, cultural, and economic displacement, by the importation of Chinese wage slaves is strong, and everywhere things are tending “to their discouragement.” Race (ie people's instinctive aversion to being genocided by being mixed and bred out of existance) is specifically identified as the primary impediment to the implementation of this scheme. (This article was republished in an 1874 edition of Littel's Living Age in the US, unfortunately the link I had for the article no longer works. It should be found at one of the two Making of America online sites however.)

    The slave dealers of the British Empire and of the nascent northeastern United States had not concocted and financed the 'Abolition' movement and given up the lucrative chattel slave trade for the planned for far greater riches to be derived from wage slavery (ie 'cheap labor' so called) only to have the scheme blow up in their faces with the adoption of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Immigration Restriction (1924) in the US and the roughly concurrent adoption of the White Only policy by Australia. They were not going to be denied their profits. It would be over a hundred years yet before they would develop the perfect ideological vehicle to make the world safe for cheap labor…or so they would think. Along with its integral anti-race campaign they would give this future ideological vehicle the name ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Chinamen Out Of China

    ‘OF late years we have heard so much of “Chinese cheap labour” from various parts of the world that it is somewhat difficult to realize the fact that not more than 200,000 Chinamen are working in foreign countries at the present time. Even this number is quite an outside estimate. America and Australia have so far been the favourite resorts for Chinese emigrants…’

    https://thomasnastcartoons.com/2016/02/13/the-chinese-question/

    http://name.umdl.umich.edu/ABJ1733.0001.001

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0121-2;didno=livn0121-2;view=image;seq=00134;node=livn0121-2%3A1

    https://archive.org/details/ne
    , @Che Guava
    It is far simpler than that. Frau Merkhin was a functionary of the Socialist Unity Party (the names of Eastern European parties, and the extent to which they had coalitions, are worth a little study in themselves) until her twenties, at least. Her father was a pastor in the equivalent of the 'living Church' set up by the jewish Bolsheviks in Russia..

    She is a Manchurian candidate par excellence, non pareil.

    Her hand gestures, particularly the triangle she loves to form with her fingers, are reallly creepy.
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  16. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich
    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country's middle class. It's only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can't help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers' wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

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    What kind of troll are you?

    Why in Lord's name would you post that rambling missive HERE on this website.

    Have you adopted black children yet, or will your wife have some sperm donors?
    , @Rich
    Do you have any understanding of the Law of Diminishing Returns? Nations are only so big, they can't host an unlimited population. If 300 Million English speaking Germanic rocket scientists wanted to immigrate into the US, it would still put a strain on the country, salaries for rocket scientists would drop, the cost of rent would increase, there would be stress on the environment, etc. Why can't some people understand that if you have 10 people competing for 20 jobs, the cost of labor rises, allowing those workers to make a middle class wage, if you have 30 people competing for 20 jobs, the cost of labor decreases and you create an underclass that never makes enough and eventually lands in poverty. In the 1970's a deli clerk made enough money to buy a house and support a family, here in NY, they actually make less an hour now, than they did then.

    And, of course we're not getting the 300 million Rocket scientists, we're getting manual labor that drives the cost of unskilled labor even lower. And don't think these unlimited hordes, and growing automation, won't eventually reach you. Your job won't be safe forever either, ask native born American engineers.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Let me put it this way: Even UN is insane. What if I go to your place and I will take half of what you have created. And if you open your mouth I will call the police.
    , @Them Guys
    You are so fucking wrong it is not even funny. If you really believe what you wrote of, and I'd bet you sure do. It is a testimony of just how idiotic a liberal lefty is. And you make it obvious that once a persons mind set is akin to yours….That warped, wrong mind is nearly impossible for anyone to change it. This is the main reason that while good minded folks speak or write of best methods to debate a liberal, so to get the lib to change and awaken to REALITY. It's most often a total waste of time.


    NO! Everybody is Not born with exact same "Potentials" as you believe. If true as You stated it to be? Tell us all why cannot everyone play a piano like Mozart and also Write their own masterful concert music? The world you describe would be one which has every individual possessing zero individuality. More like N. Koreans look like when seen on tv at some military parade with mandatory citizen spectators. 99% of them look exact same size, shape, clothes, hats, shoes, mustaches, and beady dark eyes. That may be good for Koreans, but not for entire worlds pop eh.


    Your entire world view is so fucked up its uncanny and plain stupid. Plus like most black negroes, you blame an entire nations founding peoples for every abject failure of low life, low IQ, third world heathens.


    You'd do well to live in state of Washington eh....I just saw a headline news article yesterday, I only read the main headline as its all one needs know, to know how totally dumbed down stupid state of Washington residents actually are.


    News Headline for state of Washington stated:...Finally! Washington state Voters will now be able to vote in next elections, for a...CARBON Tax! In order to "Help Mitigate, Global climate changes" aka global warming nonsense...


    And you'd be hard pressed to find a Dozen at best, of that fully liberalized communized state's voters, smart enough to ask a very simple question of..."Gee, if we okay a statewide carbon tax to get paid by folks who add more pollution, and this will make it okay for them to continue adding even more pollution, How the fuck is that extra tax paid going to change anything?


    Or in other words for very dumbed downs...Gee if pollution causes global warming, why should anybody be allowed to add yet more pollution just because they Pay Extra taxes? Wont this make the situation even worse yet?


    Of course its as stupid as can get. But bet your ass them totally idiotic libs in that state are going to pass it as state law by huge margins. None will even ask "Who determines how much is too much and then triggers the Tax?".....No, they will more likely ask something like. "Hey Which poor deprived African savages and Illegal Invader-immigrants can we Spend all that extra Tax Cash on next, to make us stupid liberal dem virtue signalers look swell to the Global Community eh?"


    I want every idiotic open border clown like You, and every always complaining, ingrate African and Mexican and Jew in America to get the fuck Out and do so ASAP quick...Try a nice move and new life in Sudan Africa or Hatti so you all can be rid of life with Us, usa Whiteys that create such a painful life for you all. Because if you keep doing those type policies and agendas much longer, I predict you types shall Really learn very soon, what real verified pain, life within usa will be like.


    In other words Masses of Euro Whites in USA as well as EU nations, are fast waking up, and also getting Very, Very royally Fed Up and too pissed off for words...That should be clue #1 as to, why in past decade or so has so many Whiteys made, then fast broken, every prior record for total numbers of Firearms & Cases of Ammo Purchased. Records so large the fbi Nics check system said they may stop reporting massively broken nics check records every month, since numbers increase constantly and with No end in sight!


    Hint: Them whiteys ain't buying so many costly, expensive firearms just for hunting rabbits or doing weekend target practices eh...No, rather the new nationwide rates of awakening and getting more pissed off weekly has grown faster than most any other thing you can compare with or to.


    With a major reason being stuff like You wrote!...So thanks, at least if you assist even one more Whitey in America to become a pro usa, pro whitey-brand new gun owner after he/she reads what You wrote.


    PS; Don't even consider a move with your tag along low life pals into My rural area, it simply wont work out for you types or more importantly for Us already here. We don't do debates and such when it comes to invaders who never should come in first place.


    PPS: All that, UN human rights mandate stuff...Don't apply nor count in America, as we already have our very Own, Bill of Rights. And once it all goes Hot, so called "Special Minority rights" etc. will be Second thing to Go! Directly after the very first thing to Go, which of course shall be every fuckin Illegal Invader person who has zero rights to invade America.


    Plus read fine print in each UN rights papers. You should find there, statements on how, paraphrasing here, "These listed human rights such as free speech etc. will remain valid for all peoples...Unless and Until the proper UN Appointed (not elected!) group of Regulators determine to Change any parts of said rights."....Furthermore, several us supreme court decisions, have stated that, even with a 2/3rds vote by us senate to ratify any Treaty with UN or other nations, is Invalid if such a treaty will radically harm or negate the usa const, that Is the valid legal framework American Fed Govnt must adhere to etc. And IIRC usa has not ratified any UN rights agreement or treaty as yet.(???). Even if us senate did ratify it is still bogus as a three dollar bill in every detail which it don't jive with Our usa const.
    , @Eric Novak
    What skills are you talking about? Shoveling manure? Stocking shelves at the casbah? The average Syrian has an IQ in the mid 80s and that of a sub-Saharan African below that.
    , @cassandra
    This is a classic example of how left politics has been hijacked for use as a propaganda tool for promoting elite programs. In this case, an emotional but distorted narrative of children and families from war zones drowning in the Mediterranean and on its beaches, is presented to the population, to get Europeans to uncritically accept what is prima facie an organized EU social revolution. No one would accept the latter on its face value, but in the case of the former, many will be persuaded by the emotional argument that only the most selfishly heartless would oppose refugee migration. Heavy doses of contempt impressed upon dissenters by the MSM will not only discourage critical discussion, but will also reinforce self-censorship on the parts of the believers as well. It also carries the political war from the realm of emotion to morality.

    The trouble is, the emotional spin so distorts the situation that enunciating its propositions becomes an embarrassing reductio ad absurdum, as we find here.

    1. The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.
     
    Good thing; were the fault with the migrant, we'd have to restrict immigration. Much better to blame ourselves.

    2. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition.
     
    This mischaracterizes: oligarchs & corporations like cheap immigrant labor because it drives down payroll costs.

    3. Unlimited migration is not insane.
     
    Unlimited external immigration has historically been synonymous with pillage. The argument provided for internal migration is based on the fallacy that because it's happening, it must be ok. However, migration to factory jobs in cities were accompanied by abuses that brought attention to the rights of workers, which led to the formation of the left, labor unions and socal programs in the first place. Those used to be the concerns of the left.

    4. Every human being is born with the same potential...
     
    Here's one simple counterexample: without significant modification to my original equipment, I can't bear a child because I'm male. I was never tall enough to have ever made the grade for MBA basketball, nor short enough to have the strength-to-wieght ratio required for gymnastics. People are born with all kinds of variable motor, linguistic, cognitive, social etc., differences. (Twin studies prove this by exception.) But let's pretend!

    5. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
     
    The immigrant may indeed bring talent and energy, but the migrant is also likely to bring with him/her many (hopefully temporary) "non-genetic deficiencies" that will be handicaps. Examples are a lack of knowledge of the language of the host country, lack of useful skills, and unfamiliarity with critical social taboos (like sexual assault, to cite an extreme case).

    Why are such self-deceptions common to the left? Traditionally, the left supported economic justice for the middle class, but since they jettisoned economic policies during the "Third Way" of the '90's, they lost the ability to oppose corporations, leaving them little to promote but emotional hand-wringing.
    , @Ace
    That is some serious delusion there, son.
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  17. Respect says:

    The effeminated and antichristian west is in ruins .

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  18. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    i take great unbounded exception to “the state-sanctioned appropriation of private property as being in the same box with communism.

    It was rule of law that stole from the public domain that which belongs to everyone (the masses). The inventions of mankind belong to everyone, the land belongs to those who can use it, not to those who own it.

    Mercer says “In communism’s parlance, this theft of a man’s life, labor and land is referred to as state-ownership of the means of production.” but I say, he’s got it all wrong, land and inventions have always been public property … its just that the Oligarachs have invented rule of law, and used rule of law to convert public properties and inventions of man’s creative mind into private wealth chests, and because they knew there would be competition to such private ownership, they invoked the power of government to enforce their grand thefts.

    Individuals must enjoy a boundless freedom… I agree to this point, but if I cannot use an idea, invention or a piece of land, has not my “boundless freedom” been infringed?

    as Mercer continues” in the use of their property and the exercise of their labor, as long as in disposing of their property or exercising their labor they do not harm others who have the same rights.” I disagree.. and suggest a lack of understanding must have led Mr. Mercer to this propaganda. One cannot have the same rights unless one has the wealth and same privilege to own as the other.

    Property, real estate, copyright or patent are all inventions of the rule of law. Copyrights and patents began in 1492 when Martin Luther nailed his thesis to the church door. Copyrights and patent were used as the means to suppress free speech and prevention opposition opining about the faults of kings and queens since 1600 (Cambridge, England) and they were the stock market equivalents in coffee house London. Today the means by which mankind in America has been made slave to the Oligarch and his corporate right arm is mostly found in the awesome power of state enforced private ownership of copyright, patent and deeds. One corporation owns the patent on mixing a drug, another wants to mix a different drug but cannot, because the former owns the patent; hence competition has been quenched.

    Copyrights, patents and real estate deeds not only restrict access and competition, they also serve to deny freedom (the law of trespass benefits only the land owner) and redirect the benefit of society from the masses to the few. The laws against infringement or trespass prevent all competition by the poor against the wealthy.
    If you read the enclosure acts you will discover that the reason for property law was to force the poor into the cities because their toil was needed to run the factories and because they needed money to buy the stuff they used to make at home.

    I do not have time tonight to write more. While I completely disagree with Mercer as cited above, I do appreciate his effort and respect him for that.

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    Are you a younger college student by any chance? Because you sure sound like a grade-A, prime product of colleges from the past 30-40 years. You are simply 100% wrong and 180 degrees opposite.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. Yet you promote a direct opposite?....If You write a best seller book and it sells multi million copies...I and everybody here or everyone in usa should get Paid from your book profits?


    If you or some illegal Invader border jumper, decides My 10 acres property that I paid for and Own, should be 100% free to you or they whenever you/they wish to pitch a tent, invite every extended family member in, and live free as a bird on My lands? Maybe make use of My water well, or My propane for heat too?....Maybe You need research Laws that determine when I have a right to Shoot Dead such invaders who think they can do whatever tickles their fancy at the moment, and which they will need use my stuff or land, without My permission eh.


    How can you possibly be so damn backwards from all logic and common sense? It Must be college right? Or you are from a fully commie country?....it sounds as if you almost border on insanity to be frank here. Either way, your type ideas and radical wrong beliefs just wont fly in usa at all. Maybe in commie kalifornia? Nowhere else though.
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  19. “Take the term “liberal.” It once belonged to the good guys. But socialists, communists and Fabians stole it from us.”

    Take the colour Red. It used to be the universal colour of Communists everywhere, and it still is in many places, but somehow America’s reds have foisted the colour red off on unwitting Republicans, who now embrace it with relish, while wrapping the leftist Democrats in true American blue.

    A little piece of me dies every time I see a Tweet from a Republican or Conservative wishing for this state or that state to “Go Red” in the next election.

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    Of course it was the MSM who came up with the color scheme. We should start to change that and call deep Dem states RED so even the dimmest voter can remember Red for reds.
    , @KenH
    Right, the Republicans used to be blue and the Dems red. I'm not sure when this got reversed. I watched election night in 1980 on Youtube last year and all the states Reagan won were blue and I believe that was also the case in the 1984 election.
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  20. @Rich
    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country's middle class. It's only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can't help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers' wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

    That’s a tough question. Cesar Chavez himself had some hard words against illegal immigration. I can remember when he was a household name; not long ago I had to explain who he was to an educated 2nd generation Mexican immigrant. This is a world where he’s less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.

    Labor unions would seem to be an ideal workable compromise between outright socialism and globalist corporatism. But as you say, it’s impossible for workers to have any bargaining power when a host country is flooded with potential scabs. I also don’t understand why this is such a blind spot for most leftists.

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    This is a world where he’s less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.
     
    The Pope is the most honest Yeshuan to head the RCC in my lifetime. And while millions of the faithful can see he’s a communist, they’re unable to see that Yeshuanity is communist inherently. Instead of waking up, they double down and say retarded crap like “sacrificing for the world’s destitute third world savages or mentally ill homos and trannies isn’t Yeshuan.”

    Cult members never admit they belong to a cult do they?
    , @pyrrhus
    The reality, as Cesar Chavez knew, is that mass immigration immiserates the existing middle and working class population of the nation...And that will ultimately cause a major crisis...http://peterturchin.com/cliodynamica/the-ginkgo-model-of-societal-crisis/
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  21. Malla says:

    Unfortunately many humans are not built to function in a liberal society. They are just not wired that way. A large chunk of the brown black world can never function in a liberal society. A few browns and blacks, sure, but not the vast majority. Same with most Jews, a few Jews live well in a liberal society, sure. There are even a few Whites and East Asians who cannot live in a liberal society either. These populations lack the sense of individual responsibility which comes with liberty, they are primarily tribalist in their outlook and societies where they live in will inevitably face the problem of ‘a tragedy of the Commons’.
    Maybe the world should be divided into two camps, the liberal camp with minimum government. And an authoritarian camp. Both sides do not interfere in each other’s affairs.

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    That would require liberals to leave authoritarians alone. Given history and current attitudes, I don't see that happenning.
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  22. @jilles dykstra
    The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, 'thanks' to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

    I wish Denmark were not in the limelight as the “best” anything. It puts it squarely in the Left’s crosshairs as a target for desecration and destruction. Paul Krugman has already led the charge with the article that Steve cited which ostensibly, praises Denmark’s virtues. That is not his real intent. He intends to make it an object of envy and thereby bring the malevolent attention of Leftist power down upon it. Poor Denmark is too small to resist the pressures that will now be brought to bear upon her.

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    Until now Denmark does.
    Foreigners cannot buy real estate there, the burka is not allowed.
    In WWII the Germans failed in making jews wear the yellow star, the king, who had stayed, said to the Germans that he would wear the yellow star too.
    Perhaps all this is not known on the other side of the Atlantic, but it seems the smaller the country the more it wants to keep its culture, such as Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria and Poland.
    The Netherlands alas is the exception, our politicians do anything Brussels and/or Merkel want.
    But Rutte's star is waning, at last.
    His tax present to big companies of 1.4 billion now is estimated at 2.4 or so.
    In order to follow EU budget rules other taxes now must be raised.
    His promise of increased buying power for anyone again hot air.
    BTW, nobody, no economic institution, can explain why this gift to big companies brings the Dutch citizen any advantage.
    But there is a glimmer of hope, one politician has discovered that a substantial part of Dutch voters see our government as enemy.
    Alas he thinks it is just a pr problem.
    , @HdC
    Jilles:

    A couple of points:

    The yellow star with Jude imprinted was requested by Jewish Council in Germany, I believe.

    After WWII the Danes allowed approx. 10,000 German children to starve to death. There is a newspaper story about this somewhere. HdC
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  23. Realist says:
    @Rich
    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country's middle class. It's only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can't help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers' wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class.

    It would also destroy the upper class.

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    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.

    The rural whites we call "deplorables" who no longer have any connections to Europe and no money will be analogous to Boers.

    Usually the upper-class has money, qualifications and connections. So they move. They might talk about "community" but deep down their are transnationals who have spent long stretches of their life abroad anyhow.

    The poor who have never been out of their city or town and given their life to their zip code will discover the upper-class doesn't give a shit about.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Divide et impera.
    Divide and rule.
    , @Ron
    It appears that no one places any value on kinship, commonality, shared traditions, religion, customs, etc. even though these things are the stuff of which nations are made. The far Left is so totally convinced none of these things matter in their imaginary egalitarian world that they are more than willing to overlook scientific reality in favor of a Utopian dream.

    All men are not created equal, nor all societies. Race matters, genes matter, and we ignore these things at our own peril.
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  24. @Malla
    Unfortunately many humans are not built to function in a liberal society. They are just not wired that way. A large chunk of the brown black world can never function in a liberal society. A few browns and blacks, sure, but not the vast majority. Same with most Jews, a few Jews live well in a liberal society, sure. There are even a few Whites and East Asians who cannot live in a liberal society either. These populations lack the sense of individual responsibility which comes with liberty, they are primarily tribalist in their outlook and societies where they live in will inevitably face the problem of 'a tragedy of the Commons'.
    Maybe the world should be divided into two camps, the liberal camp with minimum government. And an authoritarian camp. Both sides do not interfere in each other's affairs.

    That would require liberals to leave authoritarians alone. Given history and current attitudes, I don’t see that happenning.

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    Me neither. Just stating an ideal situation.
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  25. @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    What kind of troll are you?

    Why in Lord’s name would you post that rambling missive HERE on this website.

    Have you adopted black children yet, or will your wife have some sperm donors?

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  26. @Realist

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class.
     
    It would also destroy the upper class.

    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.

    The rural whites we call “deplorables” who no longer have any connections to Europe and no money will be analogous to Boers.

    Usually the upper-class has money, qualifications and connections. So they move. They might talk about “community” but deep down their are transnationals who have spent long stretches of their life abroad anyhow.

    The poor who have never been out of their city or town and given their life to their zip code will discover the upper-class doesn’t give a shit about.

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    The problem is the collective madness of nearly all Western Nations. The only places the upper 1% non-minority types might have to flee to no longer include any of Europe, the UK, Canada, US, Australia or New Zealand. You now have to take your chances with Uruguay, Paraguay, Singapore, China, and perhaps Russia.
    , @Realist

    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.
     
    When the monetary system collapses the one percent will cease to exist as the one percent and will be at the mercy of the 99%.
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  27. @ThreeCranes
    I wish Denmark were not in the limelight as the "best" anything. It puts it squarely in the Left's crosshairs as a target for desecration and destruction. Paul Krugman has already led the charge with the article that Steve cited which ostensibly, praises Denmark's virtues. That is not his real intent. He intends to make it an object of envy and thereby bring the malevolent attention of Leftist power down upon it. Poor Denmark is too small to resist the pressures that will now be brought to bear upon her.

    Until now Denmark does.
    Foreigners cannot buy real estate there, the burka is not allowed.
    In WWII the Germans failed in making jews wear the yellow star, the king, who had stayed, said to the Germans that he would wear the yellow star too.
    Perhaps all this is not known on the other side of the Atlantic, but it seems the smaller the country the more it wants to keep its culture, such as Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria and Poland.
    The Netherlands alas is the exception, our politicians do anything Brussels and/or Merkel want.
    But Rutte’s star is waning, at last.
    His tax present to big companies of 1.4 billion now is estimated at 2.4 or so.
    In order to follow EU budget rules other taxes now must be raised.
    His promise of increased buying power for anyone again hot air.
    BTW, nobody, no economic institution, can explain why this gift to big companies brings the Dutch citizen any advantage.
    But there is a glimmer of hope, one politician has discovered that a substantial part of Dutch voters see our government as enemy.
    Alas he thinks it is just a pr problem.

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  28. @Realist

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class.
     
    It would also destroy the upper class.

    Divide et impera.
    Divide and rule.

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  29. @jilles dykstra
    The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, 'thanks' to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

    That used to work in Scandinavia when it was all white but with refugees and Muslims have 10 kids the money will run out.

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    Dutch friends who left our crowded Netherlands to to live in the Swedish countryside write us 'so adoringly naïeve these Swedes, anyone must be helped'.
    Weird ideas, a good Dutch friend who had a Swedish girl friend went to live in Sweden around 1972.
    The last time he visited me in the Netherlands, 1996 or so, we had just bought a larger house, he said 'you must take away that by taxes', meaning, my income for buying such a house is not allowed socially.
    At the time I was too flabbergasted to reply, I do not deal in drugs or let myself be bribed.
    Swedes also found out gender neutrality, the words 'boy' and 'girl' should no longer be used.
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  30. Rich says:
    @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    Do you have any understanding of the Law of Diminishing Returns? Nations are only so big, they can’t host an unlimited population. If 300 Million English speaking Germanic rocket scientists wanted to immigrate into the US, it would still put a strain on the country, salaries for rocket scientists would drop, the cost of rent would increase, there would be stress on the environment, etc. Why can’t some people understand that if you have 10 people competing for 20 jobs, the cost of labor rises, allowing those workers to make a middle class wage, if you have 30 people competing for 20 jobs, the cost of labor decreases and you create an underclass that never makes enough and eventually lands in poverty. In the 1970′s a deli clerk made enough money to buy a house and support a family, here in NY, they actually make less an hour now, than they did then.

    And, of course we’re not getting the 300 million Rocket scientists, we’re getting manual labor that drives the cost of unskilled labor even lower. And don’t think these unlimited hordes, and growing automation, won’t eventually reach you. Your job won’t be safe forever either, ask native born American engineers.

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  31. utu says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
    For what, I do not know, the document was not secret, but hardly anyone knew that it existed.
    Rising average age may have been a consideration, on the other hand, fears that robotisation will replace all simple jobs are all over the place.
    Possibly the illusion of EU economic power was or still is a factor, a leading politician, now disappeared from politics overnight, Schulz, a capable economist with his training in book binding, talked about EU economic power all the time.

    Another factor, I suspect Merkel's motive, is her belief in the evil Germans, guilty of causing two world wars and having perpetrated the gas chamber mass murder.
    She's a phycisist, daughter of a socialist minister in the DDR, that she does not know that Germans are the victims of two world wars to this very day, and that very probably just lice were killed in gas chambers, I really think she does not know.

    So, probably, her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans through mass immigration, on the other destroying European cultures, so that the salvation country Europe can be established.
    It is ghasly to see how nonsense mainstream history of the 20th century determines politics in the European continent in the 21st century.

    her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans

    Turning Germans into Dutch. Hitler in his 2nd book wrote:

    But the fewest want to know what this means for Germany. If in the future our people continues living with the same political thoughtlessness as in the past, it will ultimately have to renounce the claim to international significance. It will become more and more stunted racially, until it finally deteriorates into degenerate, brutish gluttons who will not even remember the past greatness. In the context of the future international state hierarchy, it will be at most what Switzerland and Holland were in the previous Europe.

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    Never even heard of his second book; all the publicity goes to My Struggle. In any event, that is a most interesting quote. I don't know what the context is, though. I will have to read the passages prior to the one you published here.
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  32. @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    Let me put it this way: Even UN is insane. What if I go to your place and I will take half of what you have created. And if you open your mouth I will call the police.

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    Even UN is insane

    The UN is very insane , it sells free " human rights " without " human duties " , promotes endless free entitlements including bioentitlements , without obligations , thus promoting anarchy and degeneration .

    The UN is worse than old soviet communism which was an old mechanicistic model , based on physics , while the UN -western model is a biologicist model , based on biology , what allows any entitlement for biological reasons , for instance for being a woman , for being ill , for being black , white , brown , or in stripes , animal rights , free emigration , etc...

    It is interesting how the russians and eastern europeans survived mentally to communism and to the collapse of communism , and show intelligence , realism and common sense , while the prosperous occidentals ,dominated by the biopolitics of the system , seem to have lost common sense , the sense of reality , and are crazy as hell . What do you think Ilyana ?
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  33. ‘Unrestrictedly opening the doors of the Americas, of Australia, and of Western Europe to immigrants would today be equivalent to opening the doors to the vanguards of the armies of Germany, Italy, and Japan.’—Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government, 1944

    It is precisely the destructive effect of mass immigration and diversity which makes those policies so attractive to the enemies of the West. A year after Omnipotent Government, the American Jewish Committee published Jews in the Post-War World, which, on page 85, recommends the establishment of ‘multi-national states’ in the West:

    ‘Proof that Jewish minorities, on the whole, have received better treatment in the multi-national states has been established by outstanding Jewish historians. The federative system, composed, as it would be, of different nationalities, large and small, is likely by its very nature to discourage exclusive nationalism with its characteristic policies of intolerance towards minorities. In a federative system, national group differences would no longer be primarily political and nationalistic, but cultural, linguistic, and religious.’

    Of course, diversity is only good for Jews inasmuch as it spells the end of Western civilization and the white race.

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  34. Them Guys says:
    @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    You are so fucking wrong it is not even funny. If you really believe what you wrote of, and I’d bet you sure do. It is a testimony of just how idiotic a liberal lefty is. And you make it obvious that once a persons mind set is akin to yours….That warped, wrong mind is nearly impossible for anyone to change it. This is the main reason that while good minded folks speak or write of best methods to debate a liberal, so to get the lib to change and awaken to REALITY. It’s most often a total waste of time.

    NO! Everybody is Not born with exact same “Potentials” as you believe. If true as You stated it to be? Tell us all why cannot everyone play a piano like Mozart and also Write their own masterful concert music? The world you describe would be one which has every individual possessing zero individuality. More like N. Koreans look like when seen on tv at some military parade with mandatory citizen spectators. 99% of them look exact same size, shape, clothes, hats, shoes, mustaches, and beady dark eyes. That may be good for Koreans, but not for entire worlds pop eh.

    Your entire world view is so fucked up its uncanny and plain stupid. Plus like most black negroes, you blame an entire nations founding peoples for every abject failure of low life, low IQ, third world heathens.

    You’d do well to live in state of Washington eh….I just saw a headline news article yesterday, I only read the main headline as its all one needs know, to know how totally dumbed down stupid state of Washington residents actually are.

    News Headline for state of Washington stated:…Finally! Washington state Voters will now be able to vote in next elections, for a…CARBON Tax! In order to “Help Mitigate, Global climate changes” aka global warming nonsense…

    And you’d be hard pressed to find a Dozen at best, of that fully liberalized communized state’s voters, smart enough to ask a very simple question of…”Gee, if we okay a statewide carbon tax to get paid by folks who add more pollution, and this will make it okay for them to continue adding even more pollution, How the fuck is that extra tax paid going to change anything?

    Or in other words for very dumbed downs…Gee if pollution causes global warming, why should anybody be allowed to add yet more pollution just because they Pay Extra taxes? Wont this make the situation even worse yet?

    Of course its as stupid as can get. But bet your ass them totally idiotic libs in that state are going to pass it as state law by huge margins. None will even ask “Who determines how much is too much and then triggers the Tax?”…..No, they will more likely ask something like. “Hey Which poor deprived African savages and Illegal Invader-immigrants can we Spend all that extra Tax Cash on next, to make us stupid liberal dem virtue signalers look swell to the Global Community eh?”

    I want every idiotic open border clown like You, and every always complaining, ingrate African and Mexican and Jew in America to get the fuck Out and do so ASAP quick…Try a nice move and new life in Sudan Africa or Hatti so you all can be rid of life with Us, usa Whiteys that create such a painful life for you all. Because if you keep doing those type policies and agendas much longer, I predict you types shall Really learn very soon, what real verified pain, life within usa will be like.

    In other words Masses of Euro Whites in USA as well as EU nations, are fast waking up, and also getting Very, Very royally Fed Up and too pissed off for words…That should be clue #1 as to, why in past decade or so has so many Whiteys made, then fast broken, every prior record for total numbers of Firearms & Cases of Ammo Purchased. Records so large the fbi Nics check system said they may stop reporting massively broken nics check records every month, since numbers increase constantly and with No end in sight!

    Hint: Them whiteys ain’t buying so many costly, expensive firearms just for hunting rabbits or doing weekend target practices eh…No, rather the new nationwide rates of awakening and getting more pissed off weekly has grown faster than most any other thing you can compare with or to.

    With a major reason being stuff like You wrote!…So thanks, at least if you assist even one more Whitey in America to become a pro usa, pro whitey-brand new gun owner after he/she reads what You wrote.

    PS; Don’t even consider a move with your tag along low life pals into My rural area, it simply wont work out for you types or more importantly for Us already here. We don’t do debates and such when it comes to invaders who never should come in first place.

    PPS: All that, UN human rights mandate stuff…Don’t apply nor count in America, as we already have our very Own, Bill of Rights. And once it all goes Hot, so called “Special Minority rights” etc. will be Second thing to Go! Directly after the very first thing to Go, which of course shall be every fuckin Illegal Invader person who has zero rights to invade America.

    Plus read fine print in each UN rights papers. You should find there, statements on how, paraphrasing here, “These listed human rights such as free speech etc. will remain valid for all peoples…Unless and Until the proper UN Appointed (not elected!) group of Regulators determine to Change any parts of said rights.”….Furthermore, several us supreme court decisions, have stated that, even with a 2/3rds vote by us senate to ratify any Treaty with UN or other nations, is Invalid if such a treaty will radically harm or negate the usa const, that Is the valid legal framework American Fed Govnt must adhere to etc. And IIRC usa has not ratified any UN rights agreement or treaty as yet.(???). Even if us senate did ratify it is still bogus as a three dollar bill in every detail which it don’t jive with Our usa const.

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    There is no point in answering Anon.
    I even do not know if he believes his own nonsense, or is just a paid Israeli propagandist
    , @Eric Novak
    This poster must be troll from the right, just riling people up to keep morale and anger high or to test the current mood. He's probably Tiny Duck from Steve Sailer's blog.
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  35. A rather confused offering which essentially hops back and forth from the European meaning of political terms, such as liberalism, nation or nationalism, to the very different American meaning of those terms.

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  36. Yee says:

    Pretty strange that Americans never criticized the way Amerindians run their casinos. I heard that their casino is owned by the tribe, profits from it shared by tribal members.

    This is public owning of means of production, and right in the USA too. How come Americans don’t fight this de facto communism at home?

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    True
    , @Stan d Mute

    How come Americans don’t fight this de facto communism at home?
     
    Because we can’t look honestly at Amerinds, that’s why. We can’t acknowledge that they were Stone Age savages when we found them. We can’t admit they’re the most rabidly nationalistic people in America. To examine their communistic tendencies would be to pull back the curtain and see (as our ancestors did) what they really are. By extension, we must regard Mestizos and Indios as “Latinx” as if speaking Spanish was their defining characteristic. Never are we allowed to think that the Maya with their mountains of corpses of murdered children or the Aztec pyramids of murder victims’ skulls are the same race as our saintly Chippewa. No, they’re Latinx and our Amerinds spent their lives admiring butterflies and rainbows before evil crackers landed in Roanoke.
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  37. Them Guys says:
    @anon
    i take great unbounded exception to "the state-sanctioned appropriation of private property as being in the same box with communism.

    It was rule of law that stole from the public domain that which belongs to everyone (the masses). The inventions of mankind belong to everyone, the land belongs to those who can use it, not to those who own it.

    Mercer says "In communism’s parlance, this theft of a man’s life, labor and land is referred to as state-ownership of the means of production." but I say, he's got it all wrong, land and inventions have always been public property ... its just that the Oligarachs have invented rule of law, and used rule of law to convert public properties and inventions of man's creative mind into private wealth chests, and because they knew there would be competition to such private ownership, they invoked the power of government to enforce their grand thefts.

    Individuals must enjoy a boundless freedom... I agree to this point, but if I cannot use an idea, invention or a piece of land, has not my "boundless freedom" been infringed?


    as Mercer continues" in the use of their property and the exercise of their labor, as long as in disposing of their property or exercising their labor they do not harm others who have the same rights.” I disagree.. and suggest a lack of understanding must have led Mr. Mercer to this propaganda. One cannot have the same rights unless one has the wealth and same privilege to own as the other.

    Property, real estate, copyright or patent are all inventions of the rule of law. Copyrights and patents began in 1492 when Martin Luther nailed his thesis to the church door. Copyrights and patent were used as the means to suppress free speech and prevention opposition opining about the faults of kings and queens since 1600 (Cambridge, England) and they were the stock market equivalents in coffee house London. Today the means by which mankind in America has been made slave to the Oligarch and his corporate right arm is mostly found in the awesome power of state enforced private ownership of copyright, patent and deeds. One corporation owns the patent on mixing a drug, another wants to mix a different drug but cannot, because the former owns the patent; hence competition has been quenched.

    Copyrights, patents and real estate deeds not only restrict access and competition, they also serve to deny freedom (the law of trespass benefits only the land owner) and redirect the benefit of society from the masses to the few. The laws against infringement or trespass prevent all competition by the poor against the wealthy.
    If you read the enclosure acts you will discover that the reason for property law was to force the poor into the cities because their toil was needed to run the factories and because they needed money to buy the stuff they used to make at home.

    I do not have time tonight to write more. While I completely disagree with Mercer as cited above, I do appreciate his effort and respect him for that.

    Are you a younger college student by any chance? Because you sure sound like a grade-A, prime product of colleges from the past 30-40 years. You are simply 100% wrong and 180 degrees opposite.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. Yet you promote a direct opposite?….If You write a best seller book and it sells multi million copies…I and everybody here or everyone in usa should get Paid from your book profits?

    If you or some illegal Invader border jumper, decides My 10 acres property that I paid for and Own, should be 100% free to you or they whenever you/they wish to pitch a tent, invite every extended family member in, and live free as a bird on My lands? Maybe make use of My water well, or My propane for heat too?….Maybe You need research Laws that determine when I have a right to Shoot Dead such invaders who think they can do whatever tickles their fancy at the moment, and which they will need use my stuff or land, without My permission eh.

    How can you possibly be so damn backwards from all logic and common sense? It Must be college right? Or you are from a fully commie country?….it sounds as if you almost border on insanity to be frank here. Either way, your type ideas and radical wrong beliefs just wont fly in usa at all. Maybe in commie kalifornia? Nowhere else though.

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    No. He will be a European. He has never been in a ghetto or barrio.
    , @anon
    can you prove your statement "Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. "

    I say and hold to the statement that Private party ownership of products of the human mind or divisions of physical assets or rights to gate public assets to the devices, and findings of mankind are anti freedom and anti liberty furthermore they account for the privatized monopoly powers are responsible for the wars most of us are against and many of us are made to suffer from.

    We have a different interpretation of the same facts.

    Property law (real estate, copyright or patent) is the law of transferring public monopoly power to private party ownership.

    How can giving one party a monopoly essentially denying the rights of all others be democratic or lead to
    freedom and liberty.. for the individual. No way.. no way.. but I am open to your proof to the contrary..

    Suppose to morrow morning there were no copyright and no patent laws to protect the assets of Google and Microsoft.. Instead of two corporations controlling everything thousands of small individuals and corporations would compete for the same markets against each other. . free competition is the basis of individual liberty and freedom. not monopolized public resources in the hands of private enterprise.
    Rule of law established monopoly powers in private hands are the modern version of land grants and feudal lord system of the past.
    , @nickels

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual.

     

    Finance Capitalism is better? Might want to think that through.
    Do you own your house?
    Do you own your car?
    Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?

    Oh.
    No. You rent them.
    We call it paying interest, but, that's just a name for Rent + you pay the taxes.

    Just try doing what you want with your property and see how fast you lose it.

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  38. If the old Van Mises was truly an Anglo-Saxo culture lover then he ought to have 1) ranted against the seed of the Middle East, i.e. Jews, and 2) he should have stayed out of America so not to pollute it any further. But now that the shysters are here enmasse, so can the detritus of the Third World. What was good for the Judaic goose, now it will be good for the Arabic gander. After totally screwing the West, the card carrying member of the Tribe is shedding crocodile tears while quoting the absurdly biased, the Economist! Give it a rest!

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    Mises, Rand, and all those other economic experts, so called, were/are Jewish, and as anti Christian as can be. No wonder they are all big hero's of libertarians eh. Note also that none of those "experts" who promote any different monetary methods or policies or agendas...None ever discuss nor promote an End of Usury/Interest. Same as libertarians and their demands to return to gold standards etc. Yet even with a gold standard, unless Jewish usury/debt/interest money is done away with. And replaced with a system of State Govnt. Created and supplied and Interest FREE cash similar to as done in Germany to fix weimere republic fiascos, then none of those experts systems will fix much if anything.

    Besides germany doing interest free cash loans for buying homes or cars etc....Todays muslim nations also forbid all forms usury/interest fees or charges on loaned cash money. And they all seem to function swell eh. As long as Jew run usa carpet bombs do not hinder their nations.

    The USA Fed Gov has a Treasury Dept already set up. Has also printing presses used daily to create cash dollar bills. There is simply ZERO good reasons OUR Citizen owned Gov, cannot issue money and 30 yr. mortgage loans or car loans etc....Without any added interest fees...And maybe just a very small monthly fee added on to cover costs of collecting and recording payments made.

    With todays digital computer cash methods of direct deposits, direct bill payments, a small added fee of perhaps, $1.00 per month would cover all costs.


    Also, and not much reported on by any major msm, GW Bush as us prez signed an exec order for USA Muslim Citizens, to get 30 year Interest Free Bank Mortgage Loans to buy a home.


    When I last did a Refi on my home loan, I asked my local bank loan person doing my refi, to give Me the exact Same interest free 30 year refi loan as they would for a Muslim...Bank said No. You Must show valid serious proofs of being a Muslim and then can apply for such a loan or refi.


    I ask, How is This Not total discrimination, against All Non Muslims?....Being a solid life long White male American, life long born in usa citizen, don't measure up eh?


    I tried to get a lawyer to do a class action suit against GW's exec order based on discrimination etc...and..No Dice. Bottom line though is Cash Money should exist mainly to benefit a nations true, real citizens, as should the fed Govnt also exist For citizens benefit as number one reason to exist at all.....and cash or cash loans should be given to all citizens with proper good credit and means to repay and with zero interest fees, period. It is main thing that fixed Germanys monetary troubles in 1920-30's era, and will work swell in usa also if done so.


    Ironic No? How you never, ever see any so called Banking or fed reserve or money Experts, on tv news or Msnbc wall street shows, of which too many such experts to count are at daily, never, ever speak out about such a policy as was done in Germany and described by me here eh?


    Why do they so Fear folks learning of such interest free loan possibilities and how great it worked in Germany when done?....one main reason of why...They are so fucking Greedy and Worship Money as much as they self worship their sorry Jewish asses.


    How's about a fed reserve and us treas dept, run by Irish White Men usa citizens, who are Honest and actually do Care for America and its true citizenry eh. And will agree with interest free loan policy....It would be the biggest overall Boost to usa economy and prosperity for All to enjoy, like nothing ever yet seen in America...So much spare cash to spend and grow economy and create more good jobs it ain't funny eh. Think on it. Germans did, and look how swell it worked there.
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  39. @Lord God Almighty
    An excerpt from Thomas Sowell's book Intellectuals and Society:

    Verbal Cleansing

    The numerous filters at work in both the media and in academia are not random. They reflect a common vision and filter out innumerable things that could threaten that vision. The verbal virtuosity of the intellectuals filters words as well as facts, through what might be called verbal cleansing, much like ethnic cleansing. Words which have acquired particular connotations over the years from the experiences of millions of people in successive generations now have those connotations systematically stripped away by a relatively small number of contemporary intellectuals, who simply substitute different words for the same things until the new words replace the old in the media. Thus “bums” has been replaced by “the homeless,” “swamps” by “wetlands,” and “prostitutes” by “sex workers,” for example.

    All the things that generations of people have learned from experience about bums, swamps, and prostitutes are in effect erased by the substitution of new words, cleansed of those connotations. Swamps, for example, are often unsightly, slimy, and smelly places, where mosquitoes breed and spread diseases. Sometimes swamps are also places where dangerous creatures like snakes or alligators lurk. But “wetlands” are spoken of in hushed and reverential tones, as one might speak of shrines.

    Newly coined words for old things appear in many contexts, often erasing what experience has taught us about those things. Thus “light rail” has become the fashionable term used by mass transit advocates for things that are very much like what were once called trolleys or street cars, and which were once common in hundreds of American cities. Trolleys were replaced by buses in almost all those cities—for a reason. But now the inconveniences and inefficiencies of trolleys vanish into thin air when they are presented as that new-sounding thing called “light rail,” whose prospective wonders can be described in glowing terms by city planners and other advocates, secure against experience rearing its ugly head through memories or histories of the decline and fall of the trolley car.

    Another significant development in the art of verbal cleansing has been changing the names used to describe people who espouse government intervention in the economy and society, as most intellectuals tend to do. In the United States, such people changed their own designation more than once during the course of the twentieth century. At the beginning of that century, such people called themselves “Progressives.” However, by the 1920s, experience had led American voters to repudiate Progressivism and to elect national governments with a very different philosophy throughout that entire decade. When the Great Depression of the 1930s again brought to power people with the government intervention philosophy—many of whom had served in the Progressive Woodrow Wilson administration—they now changed their name to “liberals,” escaping the connotations of their earlier incarnation, much as people escape their financial debts through bankruptcy.

    The long reign of “liberalism” in the United States—which lasted, with few interruptions, from President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal in the 1930s through President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society of the 1960s—ultimately ended with liberalism being so discredited that later Presidential and other political candidates with long records of liberalism rejected that label or rejected labeling altogether as somehow misleading or unworthy. By the end of the twentieth century, many liberals began calling themselves “progressives,” thus escaping the connotations which liberalism had acquired over the years, but which connotations no longer applied to the word “progressive,” which was from an era too far in the past for most people to associate any experience with that word.

    On October 26, 1988, a long list of leading intellectuals—including John Kenneth Galbraith, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., Daniel Bell, and Robert Merton, among others—signed an advertisement in the New York Times, protesting what they called President Ronald Reagan’s “vilifying one of our oldest and noblest traditions” by making “‘liberal’ and ‘liberalism’ terms of opprobrium.” Reverting to the original meaning of liberalism as “the freedom of individuals to attain their fullest development,” the advertisement did not even recognize—much less defend—what liberalism had come to mean in practice, widespread government interventions in the economy and social engineering.

    Whatever the merits or demerits of those interventions, these were the actual policies advocated and carried out by contemporary liberals, regardless of what the original dictionary definition of the word “liberal” might have meant in times past. But the impassioned advertisement did not even consider the possibility that the actual track record of liberals when in power might have had more to do with the term becoming one of opprobrium than the criticisms made by those with a different philosophy. Moreover, it was presented as something odd and unworthy that conservatives like Ronald Reagan would criticize liberals, as liberals so often criticized conservatives like President Reagan.

    Just as people who criticize liberalism on the basis of the actual behavior of liberals are accused of being against liberalism in its dictionary definition, so people who criticize the actual behavior of intellectuals are often accused of being “anti-intellectual” in the sense of being against intellectual pursuits themselves. Richard Hofstadter’s well-known book Anti-Intellectualism in American Life equated the two things, both in its title and in its text, where he referred to “the national disrespect for mind” and “the qualities in our society that make intellect unpopular.” New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof was one of many who wrote of “the anti-intellectualism that has long been a strain in American life.” Even distinguished scholar Jacques Barzun said: “Intellect is despised,” though he himself has been critical of intellectuals, without being someone who despised intellect. Nor did he find it necessary to try to show that scientists or engineers were despised by most Americans or even by those who were highly critical of the track record of intellectuals in the sense of people whose work begins and ends with ideas.

    It’s too bad Sowell lacks the self-awareness or honesty to apply his reasoning to his race. “Nigger” or “kaffir” for Ilana, acquired a negative connotation due to the behavior of the so named people. Thus it became “negro” and when that too acquired a negative connotation for the same reason it became “colored”. “African-American” followed but that reminds us of the abject failures endemic to Africa. So we now have a word that began with negative connotation, “Black,” which media and academia are working relentlessly to make into a positive (compare “Black Friday” to “black mood” or “black cloud”). Negroes of course aren’t black and often no more brown than many SE Asians, but it was never about the color, but rather the intelligence and behavior of the subject people.

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    Stanley

    Did you know that the word "kaffir" originated from the Arab word "kafir" which means unbeliever.Arab slave traders in dar es salaam used it.\sniff/.
    White immigration to south Africa was resisted by the blacks because they believed the whites wanted to steal there land.Shaka the Zulu king was anti immigration.Does ilana like Zulu some chief.hmmmmm

    Hold him down you Zulu warrior
    Hold him down you Zulu chief chief chief

    https://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=2458

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir
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  40. HdC says:
    @ThreeCranes
    I wish Denmark were not in the limelight as the "best" anything. It puts it squarely in the Left's crosshairs as a target for desecration and destruction. Paul Krugman has already led the charge with the article that Steve cited which ostensibly, praises Denmark's virtues. That is not his real intent. He intends to make it an object of envy and thereby bring the malevolent attention of Leftist power down upon it. Poor Denmark is too small to resist the pressures that will now be brought to bear upon her.

    Jilles:

    A couple of points:

    The yellow star with Jude imprinted was requested by Jewish Council in Germany, I believe.

    After WWII the Danes allowed approx. 10,000 German children to starve to death. There is a newspaper story about this somewhere. HdC

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    Hitler imposed it in the Netherlands.
    10.000 German children being starved, highly improbable, in my opinion, in any case, never heard of.
    About the Neurenberg race laws, that never were, they were religious laws, who was a jew depended on religion, of oneself, parents or grandparents.
    So there were full jews to eight jews.
    It is asserted that a rabbi was involved in writing these laws, but the proof and assertions are contradictory;
    A problem was a 'real' German who had converted to judaism.
    Forgot how it was solved.
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  41. geokat62 says:

    Still, he didn’t imagine he needed to explain why the West had to stay Western to be free.

    Too bad von Mises didn’t have a conversation with his coreligionists in the Frankfurt School and try to explain to them that their proposed cure for antisemitism (Cultural Marxism aka Political Correctness) was worse than the disease.

    It is their ideas that have resulted in The Dumb Goyim chanting in protests “No borders, no walls, no United States at all.”

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  42. @erolwolf44!
    That is undoubtedly a great point! Allow me to reinforce it. The best way to defeat the idiotic and asinine arguments of the left is by pointing out that the “ colored” peoples of the world and their civilizations are highly patriarchal ( case in point Islam and contemporary Africa where polygamy is still practiced and homophobia is rampant). Leftists and liberals love to defend Islam, but the irony is that Islam as a religion is actually more socially conservative than even most evangelical Christians in America, demonstrating that Christianity has been so thoroughly watered down that liberalism has hijacked Christianity as well.
    Also, the native Americans, during the American Indian wars if 1845 to 1890 were tenaciously fighting to preserve their traditional way of life from the white onslaught. This makes them CONSERVATIVE. Warriors like Sitting Bull, Red Cloud and crazy horse were patriarchal nationalists and conservatives through and through. Sitting bull had multiple wives. Prophet Muhammad practiced polygamy and encouraged women to dress modestly and save their virginity until marriage. Point that out to a “don’t slut shame me” Western feminist.
    Finally, every major civilization in world history has been patriarchal and conservative, especially the people that leftists love to defend as “ oppressed”. Before whites ever even showed up Africans and native Americans were fighting each other in never ending tribal wars ( nationalism is just modern tribalism, except larger)
    Only retarded western liberals don’t see the irony or contradictions in their worldview.

    liberalism has hijacked Christianity as well.

    Your arrow of causation is pointed in the wrong direction. Yeshuanity is an alien cult foisted/imposed on Europe by a Semitic tribe. Yeshua himself was a SJW do-gooder who preached that whores were good, capitalism was bad, and we should “share” with malingerers and incompetents – the very essence of communism.

    What Western Civilization has accomplished has been in spite of Yeshuanity, certainly not because of it. Yeshuanity is the noose around our neck. What we see today is Yeshuanity without the underpinnings of traditional underlying European culture and genetic predisposition. I’m not advocating a return to our “pagan” mythologies, but it’s pretty obvious that the “we are all created in the image of YHWH” bullshit is our doom.

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  43. @Them Guys
    Are you a younger college student by any chance? Because you sure sound like a grade-A, prime product of colleges from the past 30-40 years. You are simply 100% wrong and 180 degrees opposite.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. Yet you promote a direct opposite?....If You write a best seller book and it sells multi million copies...I and everybody here or everyone in usa should get Paid from your book profits?


    If you or some illegal Invader border jumper, decides My 10 acres property that I paid for and Own, should be 100% free to you or they whenever you/they wish to pitch a tent, invite every extended family member in, and live free as a bird on My lands? Maybe make use of My water well, or My propane for heat too?....Maybe You need research Laws that determine when I have a right to Shoot Dead such invaders who think they can do whatever tickles their fancy at the moment, and which they will need use my stuff or land, without My permission eh.


    How can you possibly be so damn backwards from all logic and common sense? It Must be college right? Or you are from a fully commie country?....it sounds as if you almost border on insanity to be frank here. Either way, your type ideas and radical wrong beliefs just wont fly in usa at all. Maybe in commie kalifornia? Nowhere else though.

    No. He will be a European. He has never been in a ghetto or barrio.

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  44. @Jeff Stryker
    That used to work in Scandinavia when it was all white but with refugees and Muslims have 10 kids the money will run out.

    Dutch friends who left our crowded Netherlands to to live in the Swedish countryside write us ‘so adoringly naïeve these Swedes, anyone must be helped’.
    Weird ideas, a good Dutch friend who had a Swedish girl friend went to live in Sweden around 1972.
    The last time he visited me in the Netherlands, 1996 or so, we had just bought a larger house, he said ‘you must take away that by taxes’, meaning, my income for buying such a house is not allowed socially.
    At the time I was too flabbergasted to reply, I do not deal in drugs or let myself be bribed.
    Swedes also found out gender neutrality, the words ‘boy’ and ‘girl’ should no longer be used.

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  45. @Yee
    Pretty strange that Americans never criticized the way Amerindians run their casinos. I heard that their casino is owned by the tribe, profits from it shared by tribal members.

    This is public owning of means of production, and right in the USA too. How come Americans don't fight this de facto communism at home?

    True

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  46. @Sollipsist
    That's a tough question. Cesar Chavez himself had some hard words against illegal immigration. I can remember when he was a household name; not long ago I had to explain who he was to an educated 2nd generation Mexican immigrant. This is a world where he's less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.

    Labor unions would seem to be an ideal workable compromise between outright socialism and globalist corporatism. But as you say, it's impossible for workers to have any bargaining power when a host country is flooded with potential scabs. I also don't understand why this is such a blind spot for most leftists.

    This is a world where he’s less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.

    The Pope is the most honest Yeshuan to head the RCC in my lifetime. And while millions of the faithful can see he’s a communist, they’re unable to see that Yeshuanity is communist inherently. Instead of waking up, they double down and say retarded crap like “sacrificing for the world’s destitute third world savages or mentally ill homos and trannies isn’t Yeshuan.”

    Cult members never admit they belong to a cult do they?

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  47. Wally says:
    @Mactoul
    I don't see "Nazi" word anywhere in the quote. In fact, the book Liberalism dates from 1927 that is many years before the Nazi phenomenon. Von Mises was simply uttering a commonplace of the conservative thought that Mussolini had saved Italy from a communist/anarchist takeover.

    Here you go, Hitler spelled out loud & clear.

    from mises.org by Jew Murray Rothbard:

    “Revisionism has the general function of bringing historical truth to a public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.

    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth. If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions, about the current World War III version of the same myth. Nothing would stop the current headlong flight to war faster, or more surely cause people to begin to reason about foreign affairs once again, after a long orgy of emotion and cliché.

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

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    Wally, while that quote is posted on Mises.org, an excellent site by the way, it was Rothbard who said it, not Mises himself as you noted. I know cuz i often use it myself.

    You're welcome and bravo for plugging something other than the always excellent codoh.

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  48. @HdC
    Jilles:

    A couple of points:

    The yellow star with Jude imprinted was requested by Jewish Council in Germany, I believe.

    After WWII the Danes allowed approx. 10,000 German children to starve to death. There is a newspaper story about this somewhere. HdC

    Hitler imposed it in the Netherlands.
    10.000 German children being starved, highly improbable, in my opinion, in any case, never heard of.
    About the Neurenberg race laws, that never were, they were religious laws, who was a jew depended on religion, of oneself, parents or grandparents.
    So there were full jews to eight jews.
    It is asserted that a rabbi was involved in writing these laws, but the proof and assertions are contradictory;
    A problem was a ‘real’ German who had converted to judaism.
    Forgot how it was solved.

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  49. @Them Guys
    You are so fucking wrong it is not even funny. If you really believe what you wrote of, and I'd bet you sure do. It is a testimony of just how idiotic a liberal lefty is. And you make it obvious that once a persons mind set is akin to yours….That warped, wrong mind is nearly impossible for anyone to change it. This is the main reason that while good minded folks speak or write of best methods to debate a liberal, so to get the lib to change and awaken to REALITY. It's most often a total waste of time.


    NO! Everybody is Not born with exact same "Potentials" as you believe. If true as You stated it to be? Tell us all why cannot everyone play a piano like Mozart and also Write their own masterful concert music? The world you describe would be one which has every individual possessing zero individuality. More like N. Koreans look like when seen on tv at some military parade with mandatory citizen spectators. 99% of them look exact same size, shape, clothes, hats, shoes, mustaches, and beady dark eyes. That may be good for Koreans, but not for entire worlds pop eh.


    Your entire world view is so fucked up its uncanny and plain stupid. Plus like most black negroes, you blame an entire nations founding peoples for every abject failure of low life, low IQ, third world heathens.


    You'd do well to live in state of Washington eh....I just saw a headline news article yesterday, I only read the main headline as its all one needs know, to know how totally dumbed down stupid state of Washington residents actually are.


    News Headline for state of Washington stated:...Finally! Washington state Voters will now be able to vote in next elections, for a...CARBON Tax! In order to "Help Mitigate, Global climate changes" aka global warming nonsense...


    And you'd be hard pressed to find a Dozen at best, of that fully liberalized communized state's voters, smart enough to ask a very simple question of..."Gee, if we okay a statewide carbon tax to get paid by folks who add more pollution, and this will make it okay for them to continue adding even more pollution, How the fuck is that extra tax paid going to change anything?


    Or in other words for very dumbed downs...Gee if pollution causes global warming, why should anybody be allowed to add yet more pollution just because they Pay Extra taxes? Wont this make the situation even worse yet?


    Of course its as stupid as can get. But bet your ass them totally idiotic libs in that state are going to pass it as state law by huge margins. None will even ask "Who determines how much is too much and then triggers the Tax?".....No, they will more likely ask something like. "Hey Which poor deprived African savages and Illegal Invader-immigrants can we Spend all that extra Tax Cash on next, to make us stupid liberal dem virtue signalers look swell to the Global Community eh?"


    I want every idiotic open border clown like You, and every always complaining, ingrate African and Mexican and Jew in America to get the fuck Out and do so ASAP quick...Try a nice move and new life in Sudan Africa or Hatti so you all can be rid of life with Us, usa Whiteys that create such a painful life for you all. Because if you keep doing those type policies and agendas much longer, I predict you types shall Really learn very soon, what real verified pain, life within usa will be like.


    In other words Masses of Euro Whites in USA as well as EU nations, are fast waking up, and also getting Very, Very royally Fed Up and too pissed off for words...That should be clue #1 as to, why in past decade or so has so many Whiteys made, then fast broken, every prior record for total numbers of Firearms & Cases of Ammo Purchased. Records so large the fbi Nics check system said they may stop reporting massively broken nics check records every month, since numbers increase constantly and with No end in sight!


    Hint: Them whiteys ain't buying so many costly, expensive firearms just for hunting rabbits or doing weekend target practices eh...No, rather the new nationwide rates of awakening and getting more pissed off weekly has grown faster than most any other thing you can compare with or to.


    With a major reason being stuff like You wrote!...So thanks, at least if you assist even one more Whitey in America to become a pro usa, pro whitey-brand new gun owner after he/she reads what You wrote.


    PS; Don't even consider a move with your tag along low life pals into My rural area, it simply wont work out for you types or more importantly for Us already here. We don't do debates and such when it comes to invaders who never should come in first place.


    PPS: All that, UN human rights mandate stuff...Don't apply nor count in America, as we already have our very Own, Bill of Rights. And once it all goes Hot, so called "Special Minority rights" etc. will be Second thing to Go! Directly after the very first thing to Go, which of course shall be every fuckin Illegal Invader person who has zero rights to invade America.


    Plus read fine print in each UN rights papers. You should find there, statements on how, paraphrasing here, "These listed human rights such as free speech etc. will remain valid for all peoples...Unless and Until the proper UN Appointed (not elected!) group of Regulators determine to Change any parts of said rights."....Furthermore, several us supreme court decisions, have stated that, even with a 2/3rds vote by us senate to ratify any Treaty with UN or other nations, is Invalid if such a treaty will radically harm or negate the usa const, that Is the valid legal framework American Fed Govnt must adhere to etc. And IIRC usa has not ratified any UN rights agreement or treaty as yet.(???). Even if us senate did ratify it is still bogus as a three dollar bill in every detail which it don't jive with Our usa const.

    There is no point in answering Anon.
    I even do not know if he believes his own nonsense, or is just a paid Israeli propagandist

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  50. @Yee
    Pretty strange that Americans never criticized the way Amerindians run their casinos. I heard that their casino is owned by the tribe, profits from it shared by tribal members.

    This is public owning of means of production, and right in the USA too. How come Americans don't fight this de facto communism at home?

    How come Americans don’t fight this de facto communism at home?

    Because we can’t look honestly at Amerinds, that’s why. We can’t acknowledge that they were Stone Age savages when we found them. We can’t admit they’re the most rabidly nationalistic people in America. To examine their communistic tendencies would be to pull back the curtain and see (as our ancestors did) what they really are. By extension, we must regard Mestizos and Indios as “Latinx” as if speaking Spanish was their defining characteristic. Never are we allowed to think that the Maya with their mountains of corpses of murdered children or the Aztec pyramids of murder victims’ skulls are the same race as our saintly Chippewa. No, they’re Latinx and our Amerinds spent their lives admiring butterflies and rainbows before evil crackers landed in Roanoke.

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    All true. It's a disgrace how we solved our Indian problem by defeating them in wars then passing laws and treaties for them to live on reservations. It was rough for them but all in all a lot better than other natives in other counties have been treated. Now some tribes can do great with casinos and tribal members can get bloated paychecks while sitting on their asses. I have never seen an Indian working a common floor job at an Indian casino.

    After all this we now allow ourselves to be invaded by Indians and semi-Indians who are native to Central America and Mexico. I have zero respect for the historic Aztecs and Mayan savages, but now we are letting their sons and daughters to enter and live here. We solved our Indian problem, which was not good enough due to white guilt. The solution: Create a new Indian problem by allowing in the Indians of Mexico/Central America. Liberalism is a mental disorder but then so is the greed of cheap labor addicted businesses.

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  51. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational
    IF INDIANS CAN BE PATRIOTIC AT THE TAJ MAHAL, WHY CAN’T WE ALL BE?

    Excellent article!! Thanks.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders. Invaders were stealing cattle, and women and attacking people, so people got together and said, let’s appoint one of us to guard us. So started Kingdoms.

    Keeping aliens out is the essence of civilization. Let’s ask Indians, who have one of the oldest civilization on earth:

    Here is a quote about the Taj Mahal:

    “For foreigners, the entrance fee for the Taj Mahal is 1,000 rupees. Indian nationals only pay 40 rupees. Children younger than 15 years are free. Tickets can be purchased at ticket offices near the entry gates or online at this website.”

    See: https://www.tripsavvy.com/taj-mahal-essential-travel-guide-1539343

    In other words migrants (the terms libs use for all aliens or foreigners) pay 25 times more than natives just to look inside the Taj Mahal.

    Same with most other attractions, including Elephanta Caves. Indians: Rs. 10. Foreigners: Rs. 250. See:

    http://elephanta.co.in/

    Next time a liberal tries to attack you about your patriotism, tell him about this. If Indians, from one of the oldest civilization in the world, can be patriotic, why can’t we?

    I find this the most effective way to denigrate liberals—use examples from foreign non-white countries that go against them, as it is hard for them to claim “racist, racist” and take the upper ground, morally and culturally. In other words, you are telling a white liberal that he is less cultured and civilized than 3rd world people, who have more sense.

    The liberal often freezes in confusion at this and his/her mind goes blank.

    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices .

    This is what is called Karma . Indian type .

    Some will add that Vietnamese , Cambodian, Salvadorian are still waiting .

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    posted:
    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices ."

    There were no "death camps".

    Never heard of "postcards featuring the victims of lynchings", that's how "common" they were. LOL

    No the country was not "built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years", there is no proof it was.
    Slavery, which would not have happened if Africans did not sell their slaves in the first place*, impacted a small sector of the US economy.

    * African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    www.codoh.com
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  52. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, 'thanks' to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

    These little scandinavian countries , schizoids living in a corner of little Europe , with strange languages and little parochial cultures , always pretend to be a model in everything . How arrogant , how tiresome . Go teach the artic pinguins

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  53. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, 'thanks' to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

    I am fed up with nordic ” models ” , 50 years brain washing the europeans and the rest of the world with nordic comunism and perversions . Enough .

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  54. Hitler and Lenin.

    Hitler read Kapital half way, that he did throw the book into corner of the room.
    And that was at the time when Hitler lived in hostels, and made a living by shoveling snow from Wiena sidewalks.
    Than he went and created economic and social miracle never heard of before, and never repeated anytime and anywhere after.

    Lenin slogan was: Proletariat has nothing to loose except their shackles on their hands.
    Than he created society where everybody had shackles on their hands.
    Reaction was that people become lethargic, and initiative of individual becomes non-existent. The system was called socialism. The society become frozen in time, and stopped developing further.

    There are socialist in US who want to go socialist this way.

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  55. nickels says:

    The kiddie left are fully in bed with the corporate facism known as neoliberalism, which is, to a great extent, exactly the implementation of Von Mises’ dissolution of the state and rule of private money.

    Liberalism has always meant the rule of the financial oligarchy, and was promoted falsely as the freedom of people against the ‘tyranny’ of the kings.
    However, once implemented, it became obvious that the ‘tyranny’ of the kings was the only thing protecting the people from the financial cadre, and very quickly this cadre took over the entire apparatus of global governance and subjected the people to humiliating wage slavery and the tyranny of personal degeneracy and the destruction of all social institutions promoting morality and the common good.

    Communism and global facist laisse faire’ism have always been, essentially, the same thing. Dissolution of the institutions of the state and the freedom of absolute personal decadence, in trade for handing over the reigns of power to a bureaucratic group of elites and total despotism. In the communist variety that is the party; in the Mises/neoliberal world view it is the financial oligarchs.

    The socialist millennials are confused and are straying a bit from the left’s corporate facist program, but, never fear, they have no power and will easily be folded back into corporatism if they gain any seats.

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  56. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys
    Are you a younger college student by any chance? Because you sure sound like a grade-A, prime product of colleges from the past 30-40 years. You are simply 100% wrong and 180 degrees opposite.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. Yet you promote a direct opposite?....If You write a best seller book and it sells multi million copies...I and everybody here or everyone in usa should get Paid from your book profits?


    If you or some illegal Invader border jumper, decides My 10 acres property that I paid for and Own, should be 100% free to you or they whenever you/they wish to pitch a tent, invite every extended family member in, and live free as a bird on My lands? Maybe make use of My water well, or My propane for heat too?....Maybe You need research Laws that determine when I have a right to Shoot Dead such invaders who think they can do whatever tickles their fancy at the moment, and which they will need use my stuff or land, without My permission eh.


    How can you possibly be so damn backwards from all logic and common sense? It Must be college right? Or you are from a fully commie country?....it sounds as if you almost border on insanity to be frank here. Either way, your type ideas and radical wrong beliefs just wont fly in usa at all. Maybe in commie kalifornia? Nowhere else though.

    can you prove your statement “Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. ”

    I say and hold to the statement that Private party ownership of products of the human mind or divisions of physical assets or rights to gate public assets to the devices, and findings of mankind are anti freedom and anti liberty furthermore they account for the privatized monopoly powers are responsible for the wars most of us are against and many of us are made to suffer from.

    We have a different interpretation of the same facts.

    Property law (real estate, copyright or patent) is the law of transferring public monopoly power to private party ownership.

    How can giving one party a monopoly essentially denying the rights of all others be democratic or lead to
    freedom and liberty.. for the individual. No way.. no way.. but I am open to your proof to the contrary..

    Suppose to morrow morning there were no copyright and no patent laws to protect the assets of Google and Microsoft.. Instead of two corporations controlling everything thousands of small individuals and corporations would compete for the same markets against each other. . free competition is the basis of individual liberty and freedom. not monopolized public resources in the hands of private enterprise.
    Rule of law established monopoly powers in private hands are the modern version of land grants and feudal lord system of the past.

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    ** Property law (real estate, copyright or patent) is the law of transferring public monopoly power to private party ownership. **

    Please. Property law governs the acquisition, creation, protection, and disposition of real or artificial things. There is no initial or intermediate step whereby "public monopoly power" has exclusive ownership of anything and then transfers it into private hands.

    If there were no copyright, patent, or trade secret law no one would build or create anything as each person would know it's futile to do that since their work product could be taken by others who did nothing to create it. The first two involve temporary monopolies, fool, and that third does not involve the state in creation or protection. What's your address? I want to come over and take "your" car.

    What you perseverate about is the freedom of thieves which is quite different from the freedom we have in a state of ordered liberty, though our own system is quite disorderly, let it be said. Millions have no clue about or interest in liberty and its foundation and you do yeoman's work in contributing to the reigning envy, confusion, and parasitism.

    It is not "democratic" to deny property rights.

    You are a very confused individual.
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  57. Respect says:

    In 1886 a catalan priest , Sardà i Salvany , wrote a book titled ” Liberalism is a sin ”

    http://www.sedevacantist.com/liberalism.htm

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  58. Liza says:
    @utu

    her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans
     
    Turning Germans into Dutch. Hitler in his 2nd book wrote:

    But the fewest want to know what this means for Germany. If in the future our people continues living with the same political thoughtlessness as in the past, it will ultimately have to renounce the claim to international significance. It will become more and more stunted racially, until it finally deteriorates into degenerate, brutish gluttons who will not even remember the past greatness. In the context of the future international state hierarchy, it will be at most what Switzerland and Holland were in the previous Europe.
     

    Never even heard of his second book; all the publicity goes to My Struggle. In any event, that is a most interesting quote. I don’t know what the context is, though. I will have to read the passages prior to the one you published here.

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    www.historyportal.co.il/index.php/files/105/.../0B8N.../hitler_second_book.pdf.pdf
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  59. nickels says:
    @Them Guys
    Are you a younger college student by any chance? Because you sure sound like a grade-A, prime product of colleges from the past 30-40 years. You are simply 100% wrong and 180 degrees opposite.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. Yet you promote a direct opposite?....If You write a best seller book and it sells multi million copies...I and everybody here or everyone in usa should get Paid from your book profits?


    If you or some illegal Invader border jumper, decides My 10 acres property that I paid for and Own, should be 100% free to you or they whenever you/they wish to pitch a tent, invite every extended family member in, and live free as a bird on My lands? Maybe make use of My water well, or My propane for heat too?....Maybe You need research Laws that determine when I have a right to Shoot Dead such invaders who think they can do whatever tickles their fancy at the moment, and which they will need use my stuff or land, without My permission eh.


    How can you possibly be so damn backwards from all logic and common sense? It Must be college right? Or you are from a fully commie country?....it sounds as if you almost border on insanity to be frank here. Either way, your type ideas and radical wrong beliefs just wont fly in usa at all. Maybe in commie kalifornia? Nowhere else though.

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual.

    Finance Capitalism is better? Might want to think that through.
    Do you own your house?
    Do you own your car?
    Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?

    Oh.
    No. You rent them.
    We call it paying interest, but, that’s just a name for Rent + you pay the taxes.

    Just try doing what you want with your property and see how fast you lose it.

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    Try not paying your yearly 'registration fee' for your car, goodbye car.

    Try not paying your 'property taxes", goodbye house / property

    "Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?"

    You do if they are paid for. Don't like interest? Then pay cash or do without.
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  60. Respect says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Let me put it this way: Even UN is insane. What if I go to your place and I will take half of what you have created. And if you open your mouth I will call the police.

    Even UN is insane

    The UN is very insane , it sells free ” human rights ” without ” human duties ” , promotes endless free entitlements including bioentitlements , without obligations , thus promoting anarchy and degeneration .

    The UN is worse than old soviet communism which was an old mechanicistic model , based on physics , while the UN -western model is a biologicist model , based on biology , what allows any entitlement for biological reasons , for instance for being a woman , for being ill , for being black , white , brown , or in stripes , animal rights , free emigration , etc…

    It is interesting how the russians and eastern europeans survived mentally to communism and to the collapse of communism , and show intelligence , realism and common sense , while the prosperous occidentals ,dominated by the biopolitics of the system , seem to have lost common sense , the sense of reality , and are crazy as hell . What do you think Ilyana ?

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  61. S says:

    Divide et impera.
    Divide and rule.

    Quite correct. Corrupted and or alien elites have used this tried and true method for many hundreds, if not thousands of years to control targeted populations, ie the 16th century Plantation in the north of Ireland or the Roman colonia, etc.

    ‘the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups; settlement in the ‘frontier’ (periphery); and control over the natives and their land (Stasilius and Yuval-Davis, 1995). These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony’

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264275103000969

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  62. Yee says:

    Americans fiercely defend the freedom of private properties, but at the same time resent owner of capital and technology do what they want with their private properties – moving their factories and technology to another country.

    If you are for freedom, then you should willingly accept the consequences of freedom and don’t complain.

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    Except that the companies who move their factories abroad get free access to the US market as if they were located in the US while the countries they relocate to erect immense barriers, tariffs to US made goods & services.

    Your point is invalid.

    , @ThreeCranes
    American's so called "freedom of private properties" is hedged in by a thousand codes and restrictions--as well it should be. And we want it that way.
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  63. Wally says:
    @anon
    "Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908" commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices .

    This is what is called Karma . Indian type .

    Some will add that Vietnamese , Cambodian, Salvadorian are still waiting .

    posted:
    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices .”

    There were no “death camps”.

    Never heard of “postcards featuring the victims of lynchings”, that’s how “common” they were. LOL

    No the country was not “built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years”, there is no proof it was.
    Slavery, which would not have happened if Africans did not sell their slaves in the first place*, impacted a small sector of the US economy.

    * African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

    http://www.codoh.com

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    A sick man like you can't see beyond blaming Jews

    You haven't seen doesn't mean much

    Move beyond codoh
    , @Corvinus
    "Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews."

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.

    Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.
    , @Hu Mi Yu

    Never heard of “postcards featuring the victims of lynchings”, that’s how “common” they were. LOL
     
    That just shows your ignorance. History did not begin and end with Hitler and the Nazis.

    Do a web search, and you will find the postcards online. A hundred and twenty years ago they were common.

    My communist grandmother once recounted her first sexual encounter for me. It was around 1890, and she was ten years old. She seduced a black man, and he demanded money from her. She gave him a book that belonged to her father. A mob chased him down and lynched him. I will never forget what she told me about it. "I could have saved him by confessing, but I didn't. I wanted to have sex with him, and I wanted to see him hang."

    She exposed the twisted root of her feminism and communism.
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  64. Wally says:
    @Yee
    Americans fiercely defend the freedom of private properties, but at the same time resent owner of capital and technology do what they want with their private properties - moving their factories and technology to another country.

    If you are for freedom, then you should willingly accept the consequences of freedom and don't complain.

    Except that the companies who move their factories abroad get free access to the US market as if they were located in the US while the countries they relocate to erect immense barriers, tariffs to US made goods & services.

    Your point is invalid.

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  65. SMK says: • Website
    @Rich
    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country's middle class. It's only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can't help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers' wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

    “Only muddle-brained leftists” with a “kind of serious mental disorder” support open borders and massive nonwhite immigration?! With some exceptions, such as Ilana, libertarians are open borders fanatics. The billionaire donors, not only leftists like George Soros but also the likes of Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers, are open borders fanatics. The overwhelming majority of Republicans and virtually all “cuckservatives” and neoconservatives, most egregiously the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, John Podhoretz, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens, ad nauseam, support an invasion of tens of millions of nonwhites from the Third-World.

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    There are a slew of what I guess would be called Ron Paul/Lew Rockwell libertarians who are against open borders. I'm not sure I would call billionaires like the Koch brothers or Adelson "libertarians". Billionaires don't see themselves as part of a nation and generally are just looking for low wage peons to work for them.

    As far as the point you made in your other comment, it's not just no Republican that will be elected, it's no Paleface. The country will break up into different colored blocks all voting against each other, until the US becomes ungovernable. Once Whitey realizes that he's working to pay for all these other groups' welfare benefits, while he's being actively discriminated against, I don't think there will be a peaceful solution.
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  66. Wally says:
    @nickels

    Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual.

     

    Finance Capitalism is better? Might want to think that through.
    Do you own your house?
    Do you own your car?
    Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?

    Oh.
    No. You rent them.
    We call it paying interest, but, that's just a name for Rent + you pay the taxes.

    Just try doing what you want with your property and see how fast you lose it.

    Try not paying your yearly ‘registration fee’ for your car, goodbye car.

    Try not paying your ‘property taxes”, goodbye house / property

    “Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?”

    You do if they are paid for. Don’t like interest? Then pay cash or do without.

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    You do if they are paid for. Don’t like interest? Then pay cash or do without.

     

    Yes.
    Of course, in a financialized economy, your dollars are going to be competing with a lot of easy credit that will make the objects cost 5 times what they should.
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  67. SMK says: • Website
    @Rich
    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country's middle class. It's only muddle-brained leftists, who appear to have some kind of serious mental disorder, who believe opening borders wide makes any sense. I can't help but wonder if some mad scientist, after WWII, created a virus that he unleashed on the West that causes all common sense to leave an individual. Labor Unions in the US, which are supposed to support the American worker, actually stand with the party that wants to bring in unlimited labor that will lower workers' wages, and eventually destroy the unions. Can these people be anything but deranged?

    In fact, left-liberals and Democrats who support open border and an invasion of tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens from the Third-World, over 90% of whom are nonwhite, are far less insane and far more rational than “conservatives” and Republicans who support open borders and massive nonwhite immigration. The reason is that such laws and policies will soon create a society in which no Republican will ever be elected president again and, ultimately and irreversibly, transform the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country in which nonwhites and white leftists control everything, including the criminal justice (or should one say injustice) system. Crime and the criminal justice system; the ultimate horror of white dispossession, as in South Africa.

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  68. S says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
    For what, I do not know, the document was not secret, but hardly anyone knew that it existed.
    Rising average age may have been a consideration, on the other hand, fears that robotisation will replace all simple jobs are all over the place.
    Possibly the illusion of EU economic power was or still is a factor, a leading politician, now disappeared from politics overnight, Schulz, a capable economist with his training in book binding, talked about EU economic power all the time.

    Another factor, I suspect Merkel's motive, is her belief in the evil Germans, guilty of causing two world wars and having perpetrated the gas chamber mass murder.
    She's a phycisist, daughter of a socialist minister in the DDR, that she does not know that Germans are the victims of two world wars to this very day, and that very probably just lice were killed in gas chambers, I really think she does not know.

    So, probably, her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans through mass immigration, on the other destroying European cultures, so that the salvation country Europe can be established.
    It is ghasly to see how nonsense mainstream history of the 20th century determines politics in the European continent in the 21st century.

    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.

    During the mid to latter 19th century a serious attempt was made in both the United States and Australia to displace their European populations via the importation by diktat of tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves…ie ‘cheap laborers’ so called. Elements of the corporate media were quite open and blunt about this intention at the time.

    The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present.

    The below excerpt is from pg 118 of the 1853 book The New Rome produced by the major US establishment publisher GP Putnam (now Penguin). This remarkable book is something like a geopolitical future history of the world, with an emphasis on the United States and the United Kingdom and is well worth the time to read.

    …the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians..

    ‘In August, [1852] the number of Chinese emigrants in California was estimated at 50,000…and the Anglos having learned to understand the value of these
    patient laborers, and to treat them accordingly, the influx will soon be greater than ever. If it is as well supported by the masses of the mother country, as that from Europe has been, the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians…From these relations we may calculate upon an emigration of American businessmen to China, in return for that of Chinese laborers to California.’

    Excerpts from pg 511-515 of the 1870 US book One Hundred Years Progress of the United States and its chapter entitled Marvels that our grandchildren will see; or, One hundred years’ progress in the future

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded…’

    ‘The Chinese will come to us, mainly, like some of the European immigrants, as candidates for filling our more menial positions; they will be house-servants, washermen, railroad laborers, miners, laborers in the field, &c…’

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded, they should be admitted to the same political and social privileges with ourselves…‘We say it [‘the Chinese problem’] is in one sense already solved, because it is evident that we can not, if we would, keep them [the Chinese] out, as they are now arriving upon our Pacific coast at the rate of several thousand a week, and already number about 150,000 of our population. ‘Regarding this point as settled, and believing as we do that before 1880 we shall have 5,000,000 of Chinese on this continent, and before 1900, 20,000,000 or 25,000,000…’

    In a Spring 1874 edition the Pall Mall Gazette of London expresses its pleasure that hundreds of thousands of Chinese are being utilized as “cheap labor” (as mentioned previously much more accurately referred to historically as ‘wage slaves’) in such far flung places as North and South America, Hawaii, and in Australia, but laments that there is growing worldwide resistance to this phenomena. The newspaper, besides referring to this “anxiety and alarm” as “out of proportion”, comments that there is…

    ‘A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.’

    In an article that’s reminescent in certain ways of the biblical rendition of Christ’s temptation, the Gazette attempts to pursuade its readers that the Chinese as ‘cheap laborers’ do work others won’t do, are great cooks, are excellent gardeners, etc. The writer attempts to induce guilt, and lastly, almost beggingly to the reader, makes the claim that untold wealth is to be taken from the Earth if only the Chinese could be brought in to do the work. Finally, the writer acknowledges that peoples’ resistance (particularly from Europeans in Australia and North America) as to their physical, cultural, and economic displacement, by the importation of Chinese wage slaves is strong, and everywhere things are tending “to their discouragement.” Race (ie people’s instinctive aversion to being genocided by being mixed and bred out of existance) is specifically identified as the primary impediment to the implementation of this scheme. (This article was republished in an 1874 edition of Littel’s Living Age in the US, unfortunately the link I had for the article no longer works. It should be found at one of the two Making of America online sites however.)

    The slave dealers of the British Empire and of the nascent northeastern United States had not concocted and financed the ‘Abolition’ movement and given up the lucrative chattel slave trade for the planned for far greater riches to be derived from wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called) only to have the scheme blow up in their faces with the adoption of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Immigration Restriction (1924) in the US and the roughly concurrent adoption of the White Only policy by Australia. They were not going to be denied their profits. It would be over a hundred years yet before they would develop the perfect ideological vehicle to make the world safe for cheap labor…or so they would think. Along with its integral anti-race campaign they would give this future ideological vehicle the name ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Chinamen Out Of China

    ‘OF late years we have heard so much of “Chinese cheap labour” from various parts of the world that it is somewhat difficult to realize the fact that not more than 200,000 Chinamen are working in foreign countries at the present time. Even this number is quite an outside estimate. America and Australia have so far been the favourite resorts for Chinese emigrants…’

    https://thomasnastcartoons.com/2016/02/13/the-chinese-question/

    http://name.umdl.umich.edu/ABJ1733.0001.001

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0121-2;didno=livn0121-2;view=image;seq=00134;node=livn0121-2%3A1

    https://archive.org/details/ne

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    Very informative comment.
    , @S
    As to just how profitable the 19th century wage slavery (ie the 'cheap labor'/mass immigration system) was regarding the Chinese being imported by diktat into the US this is known and it was quite profitable indeed. The state of California in the 1870's determined that the Chinese were often being payed one third (ie almost seventy percent below) whatever the prevailing local rate of labor was whereever they were being imported into.

    If insular China and the Chinese people could be compared to a woman in the 19th century it would be as though someone broke into her house at gun point, forced her to take drugs (and when they feebly attempt to resist beating the cr_p out of them, ie the two Opium Wars fought by the British Empire against China) and once incapacitated to then rape her with the imposition of lucrative and favorable (for the British and other European empires, though not so much for the Chinese) trade arrangements known by the Chinese as the Unequal Treaties. Then after all this to sell her into slavery... ie wage slavery ('cheap labor' so called) where China and the Chinese people largely remains to this day with businesses when not importing Chinese to their home countries relocating to China and paying her laborers ten cents/one dollar an hour.

    The described history above is an example of multi-cultural 'love'. The Chinese saying no to all that when attempting to preserve themselves as when they fought the two Opium Wars and or the Boxer Rebellion (circa 1900) is an example of 'hate'.

    The link to the 1853 book The New Rome is now fixed below:

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes
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  69. People ,and governments become like herds. They do not follow their their own reasoning’s, they follows only trends.
    Concerning UN there are two forces. First is that there are so many bureaucrats that that most of them have to create their own workload. The second is that they are under complete control of Globalists. Multiculturalism and the proof of its benefits is the main subject of the day.
    Concerning how people survived communist, explanation is quite easy. People did have enough to eat, and nobody went really hungry. There were no homeless people.
    Medical care was adequate. and the education was very good.
    Concerning this compartmentalization, I am not familiar with.

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    " The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present. "
    Except for 'has been' I fully agree.
    But on top of this, I suspect that Merkel believes the brain washing about the evil Germans, they caused two world wars and perpetrated the holocaust, thus the German people must disappear through mass immigration.
    Then there is the jewish motive for the EU, CIDI, more or less the Dutch AIPAC, accused Wilders of being an antisemite because Wilders is anti EU.
    Now, if there is anyone in the Netherlands who hates Muslims and Islam, it is Wilders, and he's great friend of Israel, where he lived in a kibbutz for two years, from the age of 17 to 19, something like that.
    His grandmother was jewish, his wife is said to be jewish.
    Jews feel secure in multi ethnic states, and indeed, they were happy in the Habsburg empire.
    Soros' efforts for mass immigration here are not unnoticed here, especially his conflict with Hungary, where he was born.
    Revenge ?
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  70. utu says:
    @Liza
    Never even heard of his second book; all the publicity goes to My Struggle. In any event, that is a most interesting quote. I don't know what the context is, though. I will have to read the passages prior to the one you published here.
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    @Utu. I can't read Hebrew.
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  71. Che Guava says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
    For what, I do not know, the document was not secret, but hardly anyone knew that it existed.
    Rising average age may have been a consideration, on the other hand, fears that robotisation will replace all simple jobs are all over the place.
    Possibly the illusion of EU economic power was or still is a factor, a leading politician, now disappeared from politics overnight, Schulz, a capable economist with his training in book binding, talked about EU economic power all the time.

    Another factor, I suspect Merkel's motive, is her belief in the evil Germans, guilty of causing two world wars and having perpetrated the gas chamber mass murder.
    She's a phycisist, daughter of a socialist minister in the DDR, that she does not know that Germans are the victims of two world wars to this very day, and that very probably just lice were killed in gas chambers, I really think she does not know.

    So, probably, her mission in life is on the one hand changing the Germans through mass immigration, on the other destroying European cultures, so that the salvation country Europe can be established.
    It is ghasly to see how nonsense mainstream history of the 20th century determines politics in the European continent in the 21st century.

    It is far simpler than that. Frau Merkhin was a functionary of the Socialist Unity Party (the names of Eastern European parties, and the extent to which they had coalitions, are worth a little study in themselves) until her twenties, at least. Her father was a pastor in the equivalent of the ‘living Church’ set up by the jewish Bolsheviks in Russia..

    She is a Manchurian candidate par excellence, non pareil.

    Her hand gestures, particularly the triangle she loves to form with her fingers, are reallly creepy.

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    Nevertheless, what goes on inside this sfinx only the sfinx knows
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  72. nickels says:
    @Wally
    Try not paying your yearly 'registration fee' for your car, goodbye car.

    Try not paying your 'property taxes", goodbye house / property

    "Do you own your stereo?
    Do you own your computer?
    Do you own your TV?"

    You do if they are paid for. Don't like interest? Then pay cash or do without.

    You do if they are paid for. Don’t like interest? Then pay cash or do without.

    Yes.
    Of course, in a financialized economy, your dollars are going to be competing with a lot of easy credit that will make the objects cost 5 times what they should.

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  73. Liza says:
    @utu
    www.historyportal.co.il/index.php/files/105/.../0B8N.../hitler_second_book.pdf.pdf

    @Utu. I can’t read Hebrew.

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    Sorry. Wasn't aware even of that. Do google search of "Hitler second book pdf" and you will get several links to pdf files. Some of them work.
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  74. Rich says:
    @SMK
    "Only muddle-brained leftists" with a "kind of serious mental disorder" support open borders and massive nonwhite immigration?! With some exceptions, such as Ilana, libertarians are open borders fanatics. The billionaire donors, not only leftists like George Soros but also the likes of Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers, are open borders fanatics. The overwhelming majority of Republicans and virtually all "cuckservatives" and neoconservatives, most egregiously the likes of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, John Podhoretz, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens, ad nauseam, support an invasion of tens of millions of nonwhites from the Third-World.

    There are a slew of what I guess would be called Ron Paul/Lew Rockwell libertarians who are against open borders. I’m not sure I would call billionaires like the Koch brothers or Adelson “libertarians”. Billionaires don’t see themselves as part of a nation and generally are just looking for low wage peons to work for them.

    As far as the point you made in your other comment, it’s not just no Republican that will be elected, it’s no Paleface. The country will break up into different colored blocks all voting against each other, until the US becomes ungovernable. Once Whitey realizes that he’s working to pay for all these other groups’ welfare benefits, while he’s being actively discriminated against, I don’t think there will be a peaceful solution.

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  75. utu says:
    @Liza
    @Utu. I can't read Hebrew.

    Sorry. Wasn’t aware even of that. Do google search of “Hitler second book pdf” and you will get several links to pdf files. Some of them work.

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    OK. Thanx.
    , @jilles dykstra
    What I consider the best book about Hitler
    Otto Wagener, ‘Hitler aus nächster Nähe, Aufzeichnungen eines Vertrauten 1929-1932, Hrsg. Henry A. Turner’, 1987, Kiel, ISBN 3-88741-129-3
    Wagener was from 1929 to 1932 possibly the closest compagnion of Hitler.
    His socialist ideas were a hindrance when Hitler sought the support of German big industrialists.
    Henry A Turner checked the book, written from memory after the war in a British POW camp, in any possible way.
    An interesting statement in the book is about Hitler as Aussendeutscher, a German outside Germany, Hitler was an Austrian, therefore Hitler's ideas about pre 1914 Germany, a Germany that Hitler idealised.
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  76. Respect says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The best country to live in is the socialist constitutional monarchy Denmark.
    USA citizens see taxes as robbery, the W European democratic countries, 'thanks' to the EU things are changing, accepted that the government has as one of its functions the redistribution of income, taxing higher incomes morenthan lower incomes, transferring money to those with the lowest incomes.
    The key word is solidarity.

    The EU , and the USA , overtaxes middle clases , working people , and gives the money to the oligarcs , to the oversized Government , and to unproductive people and inmigrants .

    What is the ” Welfare State ” ? , it is the welfare of the State .

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    Gorbatchow said about the EU 'it is all about economic power'.
    Alas, as the Brussels oligarchy now maybe is realising, economic power does not exist.
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  77. Cyrano says:

    Whoever said that “Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we’ll hang them” was wrong.

    It’s actually the other way around. The Socialists “sold” them the rope with which the capitalists we’ll hang themselves. That rope is multiculturalism, or phony socialism.

    Or to be more accurate, the Socialists didn’t sell them anything. Multiculturalism was a phony propaganda BS project by the good old capitalists trying to fake incorporating some socialist elements into capitalism in order to prevent the full takeover by the socialist system. The real socialism collapsed pretty much peacefully (except for Ceausescu). Good luck dismantling the phony socialism (multiculturalism) bloodlessly.

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    My dear friend.
    I did not expect you to be so uniformed.
    The movement of Blacks and Browns into Europe never was and is NOT spontaneous movement.
    It was advertised organized and, controlled and payed for by Rothschild- Soros network.
    They were ones who rented and or purchased the the boats, selected the people.
    They even given them funds (pocket money) in Euro.
    (I do have this from reliable source)
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  78. pyrrhus says:
    @Sollipsist
    That's a tough question. Cesar Chavez himself had some hard words against illegal immigration. I can remember when he was a household name; not long ago I had to explain who he was to an educated 2nd generation Mexican immigrant. This is a world where he's less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.

    Labor unions would seem to be an ideal workable compromise between outright socialism and globalist corporatism. But as you say, it's impossible for workers to have any bargaining power when a host country is flooded with potential scabs. I also don't understand why this is such a blind spot for most leftists.

    The reality, as Cesar Chavez knew, is that mass immigration immiserates the existing middle and working class population of the nation…And that will ultimately cause a major crisis…http://peterturchin.com/cliodynamica/the-ginkgo-model-of-societal-crisis/

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  79. @Yee
    Americans fiercely defend the freedom of private properties, but at the same time resent owner of capital and technology do what they want with their private properties - moving their factories and technology to another country.

    If you are for freedom, then you should willingly accept the consequences of freedom and don't complain.

    American’s so called “freedom of private properties” is hedged in by a thousand codes and restrictions–as well it should be. And we want it that way.

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    That's why all those people are fleeing California and Illinois. It's because they love the crushing regulations and stupid interference by stupid politicians. Get real.
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  80. mcohen says:
    @Lord God Almighty
    An excerpt from Thomas Sowell's book Intellectuals and Society:

    Verbal Cleansing

    The numerous filters at work in both the media and in academia are not random. They reflect a common vision and filter out innumerable things that could threaten that vision. The verbal virtuosity of the intellectuals filters words as well as facts, through what might be called verbal cleansing, much like ethnic cleansing. Words which have acquired particular connotations over the years from the experiences of millions of people in successive generations now have those connotations systematically stripped away by a relatively small number of contemporary intellectuals, who simply substitute different words for the same things until the new words replace the old in the media. Thus “bums” has been replaced by “the homeless,” “swamps” by “wetlands,” and “prostitutes” by “sex workers,” for example.

    All the things that generations of people have learned from experience about bums, swamps, and prostitutes are in effect erased by the substitution of new words, cleansed of those connotations. Swamps, for example, are often unsightly, slimy, and smelly places, where mosquitoes breed and spread diseases. Sometimes swamps are also places where dangerous creatures like snakes or alligators lurk. But “wetlands” are spoken of in hushed and reverential tones, as one might speak of shrines.

    Newly coined words for old things appear in many contexts, often erasing what experience has taught us about those things. Thus “light rail” has become the fashionable term used by mass transit advocates for things that are very much like what were once called trolleys or street cars, and which were once common in hundreds of American cities. Trolleys were replaced by buses in almost all those cities—for a reason. But now the inconveniences and inefficiencies of trolleys vanish into thin air when they are presented as that new-sounding thing called “light rail,” whose prospective wonders can be described in glowing terms by city planners and other advocates, secure against experience rearing its ugly head through memories or histories of the decline and fall of the trolley car.

    Another significant development in the art of verbal cleansing has been changing the names used to describe people who espouse government intervention in the economy and society, as most intellectuals tend to do. In the United States, such people changed their own designation more than once during the course of the twentieth century. At the beginning of that century, such people called themselves “Progressives.” However, by the 1920s, experience had led American voters to repudiate Progressivism and to elect national governments with a very different philosophy throughout that entire decade. When the Great Depression of the 1930s again brought to power people with the government intervention philosophy—many of whom had served in the Progressive Woodrow Wilson administration—they now changed their name to “liberals,” escaping the connotations of their earlier incarnation, much as people escape their financial debts through bankruptcy.

    The long reign of “liberalism” in the United States—which lasted, with few interruptions, from President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal in the 1930s through President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society of the 1960s—ultimately ended with liberalism being so discredited that later Presidential and other political candidates with long records of liberalism rejected that label or rejected labeling altogether as somehow misleading or unworthy. By the end of the twentieth century, many liberals began calling themselves “progressives,” thus escaping the connotations which liberalism had acquired over the years, but which connotations no longer applied to the word “progressive,” which was from an era too far in the past for most people to associate any experience with that word.

    On October 26, 1988, a long list of leading intellectuals—including John Kenneth Galbraith, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., Daniel Bell, and Robert Merton, among others—signed an advertisement in the New York Times, protesting what they called President Ronald Reagan’s “vilifying one of our oldest and noblest traditions” by making “‘liberal’ and ‘liberalism’ terms of opprobrium.” Reverting to the original meaning of liberalism as “the freedom of individuals to attain their fullest development,” the advertisement did not even recognize—much less defend—what liberalism had come to mean in practice, widespread government interventions in the economy and social engineering.

    Whatever the merits or demerits of those interventions, these were the actual policies advocated and carried out by contemporary liberals, regardless of what the original dictionary definition of the word “liberal” might have meant in times past. But the impassioned advertisement did not even consider the possibility that the actual track record of liberals when in power might have had more to do with the term becoming one of opprobrium than the criticisms made by those with a different philosophy. Moreover, it was presented as something odd and unworthy that conservatives like Ronald Reagan would criticize liberals, as liberals so often criticized conservatives like President Reagan.

    Just as people who criticize liberalism on the basis of the actual behavior of liberals are accused of being against liberalism in its dictionary definition, so people who criticize the actual behavior of intellectuals are often accused of being “anti-intellectual” in the sense of being against intellectual pursuits themselves. Richard Hofstadter’s well-known book Anti-Intellectualism in American Life equated the two things, both in its title and in its text, where he referred to “the national disrespect for mind” and “the qualities in our society that make intellect unpopular.” New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof was one of many who wrote of “the anti-intellectualism that has long been a strain in American life.” Even distinguished scholar Jacques Barzun said: “Intellect is despised,” though he himself has been critical of intellectuals, without being someone who despised intellect. Nor did he find it necessary to try to show that scientists or engineers were despised by most Americans or even by those who were highly critical of the track record of intellectuals in the sense of people whose work begins and ends with ideas.

    Great post thank you.

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  81. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    posted:
    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices ."

    There were no "death camps".

    Never heard of "postcards featuring the victims of lynchings", that's how "common" they were. LOL

    No the country was not "built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years", there is no proof it was.
    Slavery, which would not have happened if Africans did not sell their slaves in the first place*, impacted a small sector of the US economy.

    * African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    www.codoh.com

    A sick man like you can’t see beyond blaming Jews

    You haven’t seen doesn’t mean much

    Move beyond codoh

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  82. gdpbull says:

    The US terminology got confused when they labeled those who were for conservative moral/social values as conservatives and those who were for liberal moral and social values as liberals. Unfortunately, these same labels were used for all the positions of those groups of people, even when it came to economics and property rights, and the general freedom of people. So even though most social conservatives are also for liberal free property rights and free economics, they are still called conservatives, and even though most social liberals are decidedly illiberal on all other matters, they were are still called liberal.

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  83. @Anonymous
    Ludwig von Mises praised the Nazis as the saviors of European civilization.

    "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aimed at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has for the moment saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift."

    Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism
     

    “The deeds of the Fascists and of other parties corresponding to them were emotional reflex actions evoked by indignation at the deeds of the Bolsheviks and Communists. As soon as the first flush of anger had passed, their policy took a more moderate course and will probably become even more so with the passage of time.”

    Ludwig von Mises
     

    Those two quotes were correct about fascism and people ought to pay attention to what he was saying.

    It’s too bad that Mercer taints his good name by associating herself with it in this bonehead article. The so called “right’s” record on true liberalism at least in the US, is no better than the so called “left’s.”

    In fact, only ignoramuses still believe in the really simple minded false dichotomy of political left and right, at least as those terms have been commonly in the US for the last many decades. IOW, the “right” is just as sick and sappy as the “left” here.

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    Rightists like Lindsey, Ryan, McCain, McConnell, Sasse, Romney, Collins, HW, W, and Jeb. You want "rightist"? It's Sheriff Joe. He wouldn't serve up the tapioca that these other sellouts do.

    The left-right distinction is perfectly useful. What populists and other patriots are waking up to is that we've been sold a bill of goods as to who is a "conservative." Too, massive amounts of money flow to the sellouts of both "parties." The Republican Party is a slave to campaign donors and its members know to stay away from conservative/nationalist/patriotic positions if they want to be re-elected. It's been hard for rightists to understand that the scum who've run Washington for decades and their business and financial allies would actually give this great country away to little more than foreign savages and parasites -- Top Priority for both major parties.
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  84. @S

    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
     
    During the mid to latter 19th century a serious attempt was made in both the United States and Australia to displace their European populations via the importation by diktat of tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves...ie 'cheap laborers' so called. Elements of the corporate media were quite open and blunt about this intention at the time.

    The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present.

    The below excerpt is from pg 118 of the 1853 book The New Rome produced by the major US establishment publisher GP Putnam (now Penguin). This remarkable book is something like a geopolitical future history of the world, with an emphasis on the United States and the United Kingdom and is well worth the time to read.

    …the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians..

    ‘In August, [1852] the number of Chinese emigrants in California was estimated at 50,000…and the Anglos having learned to understand the value of these
    patient laborers, and to treat them accordingly, the influx will soon be greater than ever. If it is as well supported by the masses of the mother country, as that from Europe has been, the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians…From these relations we may calculate upon an emigration of American businessmen to China, in return for that of Chinese laborers to California.’


    Excerpts from pg 511-515 of the 1870 US book One Hundred Years Progress of the United States and its chapter entitled Marvels that our grandchildren will see; or, One hundred years’ progress in the future

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded…’

    ‘The Chinese will come to us, mainly, like some of the European immigrants, as candidates for filling our more menial positions; they will be house-servants, washermen, railroad laborers, miners, laborers in the field, &c…’

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded, they should be admitted to the same political and social privileges with ourselves…‘We say it [‘the Chinese problem’] is in one sense already solved, because it is evident that we can not, if we would, keep them [the Chinese] out, as they are now arriving upon our Pacific coast at the rate of several thousand a week, and already number about 150,000 of our population. ‘Regarding this point as settled, and believing as we do that before 1880 we shall have 5,000,000 of Chinese on this continent, and before 1900, 20,000,000 or 25,000,000…’


    In a Spring 1874 edition the Pall Mall Gazette of London expresses its pleasure that hundreds of thousands of Chinese are being utilized as “cheap labor” (as mentioned previously much more accurately referred to historically as ‘wage slaves’) in such far flung places as North and South America, Hawaii, and in Australia, but laments that there is growing worldwide resistance to this phenomena. The newspaper, besides referring to this “anxiety and alarm” as “out of proportion”, comments that there is…

    ‘A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.’

    In an article that’s reminescent in certain ways of the biblical rendition of Christ’s temptation, the Gazette attempts to pursuade its readers that the Chinese as 'cheap laborers' do work others won’t do, are great cooks, are excellent gardeners, etc. The writer attempts to induce guilt, and lastly, almost beggingly to the reader, makes the claim that untold wealth is to be taken from the Earth if only the Chinese could be brought in to do the work. Finally, the writer acknowledges that peoples’ resistance (particularly from Europeans in Australia and North America) as to their physical, cultural, and economic displacement, by the importation of Chinese wage slaves is strong, and everywhere things are tending “to their discouragement.” Race (ie people's instinctive aversion to being genocided by being mixed and bred out of existance) is specifically identified as the primary impediment to the implementation of this scheme. (This article was republished in an 1874 edition of Littel's Living Age in the US, unfortunately the link I had for the article no longer works. It should be found at one of the two Making of America online sites however.)

    The slave dealers of the British Empire and of the nascent northeastern United States had not concocted and financed the 'Abolition' movement and given up the lucrative chattel slave trade for the planned for far greater riches to be derived from wage slavery (ie 'cheap labor' so called) only to have the scheme blow up in their faces with the adoption of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Immigration Restriction (1924) in the US and the roughly concurrent adoption of the White Only policy by Australia. They were not going to be denied their profits. It would be over a hundred years yet before they would develop the perfect ideological vehicle to make the world safe for cheap labor…or so they would think. Along with its integral anti-race campaign they would give this future ideological vehicle the name ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Chinamen Out Of China

    ‘OF late years we have heard so much of “Chinese cheap labour” from various parts of the world that it is somewhat difficult to realize the fact that not more than 200,000 Chinamen are working in foreign countries at the present time. Even this number is quite an outside estimate. America and Australia have so far been the favourite resorts for Chinese emigrants…’

    https://thomasnastcartoons.com/2016/02/13/the-chinese-question/

    http://name.umdl.umich.edu/ABJ1733.0001.001

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0121-2;didno=livn0121-2;view=image;seq=00134;node=livn0121-2%3A1

    https://archive.org/details/ne

    Very informative comment.

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  85. @Rational
    IF INDIANS CAN BE PATRIOTIC AT THE TAJ MAHAL, WHY CAN’T WE ALL BE?

    Excellent article!! Thanks.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders. Invaders were stealing cattle, and women and attacking people, so people got together and said, let’s appoint one of us to guard us. So started Kingdoms.

    Keeping aliens out is the essence of civilization. Let’s ask Indians, who have one of the oldest civilization on earth:

    Here is a quote about the Taj Mahal:

    “For foreigners, the entrance fee for the Taj Mahal is 1,000 rupees. Indian nationals only pay 40 rupees. Children younger than 15 years are free. Tickets can be purchased at ticket offices near the entry gates or online at this website.”

    See: https://www.tripsavvy.com/taj-mahal-essential-travel-guide-1539343

    In other words migrants (the terms libs use for all aliens or foreigners) pay 25 times more than natives just to look inside the Taj Mahal.

    Same with most other attractions, including Elephanta Caves. Indians: Rs. 10. Foreigners: Rs. 250. See:

    http://elephanta.co.in/

    Next time a liberal tries to attack you about your patriotism, tell him about this. If Indians, from one of the oldest civilization in the world, can be patriotic, why can’t we?

    I find this the most effective way to denigrate liberals—use examples from foreign non-white countries that go against them, as it is hard for them to claim “racist, racist” and take the upper ground, morally and culturally. In other words, you are telling a white liberal that he is less cultured and civilized than 3rd world people, who have more sense.

    The liberal often freezes in confusion at this and his/her mind goes blank.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders.

    That certainly is a common misconception. The invaders themselves probably banded together to get rich quick off of others’ work, and eventually led by kings. The kings you’re describing probably did arise as you claim, but notice what probably cam first.

    No, if I remember correctly, Herbert Spencer, among others would agree with you, but Oppenheimer, Confucius (Himself a bureaucrat), and Molinari would likely agree with me.

    “The primitive state is the creation of warlike robbery; and only by warlike robbery can it be preserved.”
    - Franz Oppenheimer, The State [1919] , Chap II,(d) the primitive feudal state of higher grade

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1662&Itemid=99999999

    [Confucius and his companions], passing through rugged and deserted mountains on their way, were surprised to find an old woman weeping beside a grave.

    Confucius sent Tsze-loo to inquire the cause of her grief. “My husband’s father,” she answered, “was killed here by a tiger, and my husband also; and now my son has met the same fate.” When Confucius asked why she persisted in living in so dangerous a place, she replied: “There is no oppressive government here.”

    “My children,” said Confucius to his students, “remember this. Oppressive government is fiercer than a tiger.”

    Durant, 662 THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION CHAP. XXIII, p 662

    http://classics.mit.edu/Confucius/analects.html

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/molinari-the-society-of-tomorrow

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  86. mcohen says:
    @Stan d Mute
    It’s too bad Sowell lacks the self-awareness or honesty to apply his reasoning to his race. “Nigger” or “kaffir” for Ilana, acquired a negative connotation due to the behavior of the so named people. Thus it became “negro” and when that too acquired a negative connotation for the same reason it became “colored”. “African-American” followed but that reminds us of the abject failures endemic to Africa. So we now have a word that began with negative connotation, “Black,” which media and academia are working relentlessly to make into a positive (compare “Black Friday” to “black mood” or “black cloud”). Negroes of course aren’t black and often no more brown than many SE Asians, but it was never about the color, but rather the intelligence and behavior of the subject people.

    Stanley

    Did you know that the word “kaffir” originated from the Arab word “kafir” which means unbeliever.Arab slave traders in dar es salaam used it.\sniff/.
    White immigration to south Africa was resisted by the blacks because they believed the whites wanted to steal there land.Shaka the Zulu king was anti immigration.Does ilana like Zulu some chief.hmmmmm

    Hold him down you Zulu warrior
    Hold him down you Zulu chief chief chief

    https://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=2458

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir

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    Would that be the land that the blacks themselves had stolen from other blacks, large parts of which lands were virtually uninhabited and certainly productive of nothing but grass and springboks?
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  87. @Wally
    Here you go, Hitler spelled out loud & clear.

    from mises.org by Jew Murray Rothbard:


    "Revisionism has the general function of bringing historical truth to a public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.

    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth. If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions, about the current World War III version of the same myth. Nothing would stop the current headlong flight to war faster, or more surely cause people to begin to reason about foreign affairs once again, after a long orgy of emotion and cliché.

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     

    Wally, while that quote is posted on Mises.org, an excellent site by the way, it was Rothbard who said it, not Mises himself as you noted. I know cuz i often use it myself.

    You’re welcome and bravo for plugging something other than the always excellent codoh.

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  88. Corvinus says:
    @Wally
    posted:
    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices ."

    There were no "death camps".

    Never heard of "postcards featuring the victims of lynchings", that's how "common" they were. LOL

    No the country was not "built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years", there is no proof it was.
    Slavery, which would not have happened if Africans did not sell their slaves in the first place*, impacted a small sector of the US economy.

    * African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    www.codoh.com

    “Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.”

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.

    Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

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    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.
     
    Speaking of peddling nonsense, Corvy, what’s this?:

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”
     
    While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so.

    Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic.
    , @jilles dykstra
    All this talk about slavery does not take into account how for example inside England common people were treated as slaves, or even worse, a slave had value, thus was kept alive
    Roy & Lesley Adkins, ‘Jack Tar, The extraordinary lives of ordinary seamen in Nelson’s navy’, 2009 London
    Maurice Beresford, 'The Lost Villages of England', 1969, London
    John Prebble, ‘The Highland Clearances’, London 1969
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  89. Them Guys says:
    @Dagon Shield
    If the old Van Mises was truly an Anglo-Saxo culture lover then he ought to have 1) ranted against the seed of the Middle East, i.e. Jews, and 2) he should have stayed out of America so not to pollute it any further. But now that the shysters are here enmasse, so can the detritus of the Third World. What was good for the Judaic goose, now it will be good for the Arabic gander. After totally screwing the West, the card carrying member of the Tribe is shedding crocodile tears while quoting the absurdly biased, the Economist! Give it a rest!

    Mises, Rand, and all those other economic experts, so called, were/are Jewish, and as anti Christian as can be. No wonder they are all big hero’s of libertarians eh. Note also that none of those “experts” who promote any different monetary methods or policies or agendas…None ever discuss nor promote an End of Usury/Interest. Same as libertarians and their demands to return to gold standards etc. Yet even with a gold standard, unless Jewish usury/debt/interest money is done away with. And replaced with a system of State Govnt. Created and supplied and Interest FREE cash similar to as done in Germany to fix weimere republic fiascos, then none of those experts systems will fix much if anything.

    Besides germany doing interest free cash loans for buying homes or cars etc….Todays muslim nations also forbid all forms usury/interest fees or charges on loaned cash money. And they all seem to function swell eh. As long as Jew run usa carpet bombs do not hinder their nations.

    The USA Fed Gov has a Treasury Dept already set up. Has also printing presses used daily to create cash dollar bills. There is simply ZERO good reasons OUR Citizen owned Gov, cannot issue money and 30 yr. mortgage loans or car loans etc….Without any added interest fees…And maybe just a very small monthly fee added on to cover costs of collecting and recording payments made.

    With todays digital computer cash methods of direct deposits, direct bill payments, a small added fee of perhaps, $1.00 per month would cover all costs.

    Also, and not much reported on by any major msm, GW Bush as us prez signed an exec order for USA Muslim Citizens, to get 30 year Interest Free Bank Mortgage Loans to buy a home.

    When I last did a Refi on my home loan, I asked my local bank loan person doing my refi, to give Me the exact Same interest free 30 year refi loan as they would for a Muslim…Bank said No. You Must show valid serious proofs of being a Muslim and then can apply for such a loan or refi.

    I ask, How is This Not total discrimination, against All Non Muslims?….Being a solid life long White male American, life long born in usa citizen, don’t measure up eh?

    I tried to get a lawyer to do a class action suit against GW’s exec order based on discrimination etc…and..No Dice. Bottom line though is Cash Money should exist mainly to benefit a nations true, real citizens, as should the fed Govnt also exist For citizens benefit as number one reason to exist at all…..and cash or cash loans should be given to all citizens with proper good credit and means to repay and with zero interest fees, period. It is main thing that fixed Germanys monetary troubles in 1920-30′s era, and will work swell in usa also if done so.

    Ironic No? How you never, ever see any so called Banking or fed reserve or money Experts, on tv news or Msnbc wall street shows, of which too many such experts to count are at daily, never, ever speak out about such a policy as was done in Germany and described by me here eh?

    Why do they so Fear folks learning of such interest free loan possibilities and how great it worked in Germany when done?….one main reason of why…They are so fucking Greedy and Worship Money as much as they self worship their sorry Jewish asses.

    How’s about a fed reserve and us treas dept, run by Irish White Men usa citizens, who are Honest and actually do Care for America and its true citizenry eh. And will agree with interest free loan policy….It would be the biggest overall Boost to usa economy and prosperity for All to enjoy, like nothing ever yet seen in America…So much spare cash to spend and grow economy and create more good jobs it ain’t funny eh. Think on it. Germans did, and look how swell it worked there.

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    Typically, the vig is the juice on which the lazy/luxury class lives. They are people who like good life but are willing to do physical things instead preferring to indulge in work that taxes the mind for nefarious purposes. Until that class is put on a diet of severely less privileges through either physical restraints or judicial dictates, nothing will come off of it and for which either the populace has to have an adverse plan or the polity, the sense of urgency to rectify the imbalances. And until such time, that sense of hopelessness will pervade, unfortunately!
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  90. S says:
    @S

    There is a 2009 official EU document stating that the EU needs 60 million immigrants.
     
    During the mid to latter 19th century a serious attempt was made in both the United States and Australia to displace their European populations via the importation by diktat of tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves...ie 'cheap laborers' so called. Elements of the corporate media were quite open and blunt about this intention at the time.

    The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present.

    The below excerpt is from pg 118 of the 1853 book The New Rome produced by the major US establishment publisher GP Putnam (now Penguin). This remarkable book is something like a geopolitical future history of the world, with an emphasis on the United States and the United Kingdom and is well worth the time to read.

    …the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians..

    ‘In August, [1852] the number of Chinese emigrants in California was estimated at 50,000…and the Anglos having learned to understand the value of these
    patient laborers, and to treat them accordingly, the influx will soon be greater than ever. If it is as well supported by the masses of the mother country, as that from Europe has been, the day will not be far distant when America will number more Chinese than Caucasians…From these relations we may calculate upon an emigration of American businessmen to China, in return for that of Chinese laborers to California.’


    Excerpts from pg 511-515 of the 1870 US book One Hundred Years Progress of the United States and its chapter entitled Marvels that our grandchildren will see; or, One hundred years’ progress in the future

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded…’

    ‘The Chinese will come to us, mainly, like some of the European immigrants, as candidates for filling our more menial positions; they will be house-servants, washermen, railroad laborers, miners, laborers in the field, &c…’

    ‘The Chinese question, viz., whether the Chinese and other oriental nations shall be allowed to swarm into our territory and take the place of our present laboring classes and whether, if, as is probable, this right is conceded, they should be admitted to the same political and social privileges with ourselves…‘We say it [‘the Chinese problem’] is in one sense already solved, because it is evident that we can not, if we would, keep them [the Chinese] out, as they are now arriving upon our Pacific coast at the rate of several thousand a week, and already number about 150,000 of our population. ‘Regarding this point as settled, and believing as we do that before 1880 we shall have 5,000,000 of Chinese on this continent, and before 1900, 20,000,000 or 25,000,000…’


    In a Spring 1874 edition the Pall Mall Gazette of London expresses its pleasure that hundreds of thousands of Chinese are being utilized as “cheap labor” (as mentioned previously much more accurately referred to historically as ‘wage slaves’) in such far flung places as North and South America, Hawaii, and in Australia, but laments that there is growing worldwide resistance to this phenomena. The newspaper, besides referring to this “anxiety and alarm” as “out of proportion”, comments that there is…

    ‘A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.’

    In an article that’s reminescent in certain ways of the biblical rendition of Christ’s temptation, the Gazette attempts to pursuade its readers that the Chinese as 'cheap laborers' do work others won’t do, are great cooks, are excellent gardeners, etc. The writer attempts to induce guilt, and lastly, almost beggingly to the reader, makes the claim that untold wealth is to be taken from the Earth if only the Chinese could be brought in to do the work. Finally, the writer acknowledges that peoples’ resistance (particularly from Europeans in Australia and North America) as to their physical, cultural, and economic displacement, by the importation of Chinese wage slaves is strong, and everywhere things are tending “to their discouragement.” Race (ie people's instinctive aversion to being genocided by being mixed and bred out of existance) is specifically identified as the primary impediment to the implementation of this scheme. (This article was republished in an 1874 edition of Littel's Living Age in the US, unfortunately the link I had for the article no longer works. It should be found at one of the two Making of America online sites however.)

    The slave dealers of the British Empire and of the nascent northeastern United States had not concocted and financed the 'Abolition' movement and given up the lucrative chattel slave trade for the planned for far greater riches to be derived from wage slavery (ie 'cheap labor' so called) only to have the scheme blow up in their faces with the adoption of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Immigration Restriction (1924) in the US and the roughly concurrent adoption of the White Only policy by Australia. They were not going to be denied their profits. It would be over a hundred years yet before they would develop the perfect ideological vehicle to make the world safe for cheap labor…or so they would think. Along with its integral anti-race campaign they would give this future ideological vehicle the name ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Chinamen Out Of China

    ‘OF late years we have heard so much of “Chinese cheap labour” from various parts of the world that it is somewhat difficult to realize the fact that not more than 200,000 Chinamen are working in foreign countries at the present time. Even this number is quite an outside estimate. America and Australia have so far been the favourite resorts for Chinese emigrants…’

    https://thomasnastcartoons.com/2016/02/13/the-chinese-question/

    http://name.umdl.umich.edu/ABJ1733.0001.001

    http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=livn;cc=livn;rgn=full%20text;idno=livn0121-2;didno=livn0121-2;view=image;seq=00134;node=livn0121-2%3A1

    https://archive.org/details/ne

    As to just how profitable the 19th century wage slavery (ie the ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration system) was regarding the Chinese being imported by diktat into the US this is known and it was quite profitable indeed. The state of California in the 1870′s determined that the Chinese were often being payed one third (ie almost seventy percent below) whatever the prevailing local rate of labor was whereever they were being imported into.

    If insular China and the Chinese people could be compared to a woman in the 19th century it would be as though someone broke into her house at gun point, forced her to take drugs (and when they feebly attempt to resist beating the cr_p out of them, ie the two Opium Wars fought by the British Empire against China) and once incapacitated to then rape her with the imposition of lucrative and favorable (for the British and other European empires, though not so much for the Chinese) trade arrangements known by the Chinese as the Unequal Treaties. Then after all this to sell her into slavery… ie wage slavery (‘cheap labor’ so called) where China and the Chinese people largely remains to this day with businesses when not importing Chinese to their home countries relocating to China and paying her laborers ten cents/one dollar an hour.

    The described history above is an example of multi-cultural ‘love’. The Chinese saying no to all that when attempting to preserve themselves as when they fought the two Opium Wars and or the Boxer Rebellion (circa 1900) is an example of ‘hate’.

    The link to the 1853 book The New Rome is now fixed below:

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes

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  91. @Jeff Stryker
    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.

    The rural whites we call "deplorables" who no longer have any connections to Europe and no money will be analogous to Boers.

    Usually the upper-class has money, qualifications and connections. So they move. They might talk about "community" but deep down their are transnationals who have spent long stretches of their life abroad anyhow.

    The poor who have never been out of their city or town and given their life to their zip code will discover the upper-class doesn't give a shit about.

    The problem is the collective madness of nearly all Western Nations. The only places the upper 1% non-minority types might have to flee to no longer include any of Europe, the UK, Canada, US, Australia or New Zealand. You now have to take your chances with Uruguay, Paraguay, Singapore, China, and perhaps Russia.

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    When it all comes apart the 99% will eat the 1%.
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  92. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews."

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.

    Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.

    Speaking of peddling nonsense, Corvy, what’s this?:

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so.

    Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic.

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    "While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so. Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic."

    We have already been down this road before. The comparison to be made is between different ethnic groups and Jews. Why? Jews are an ethnic group, whites are not an ethic group. Furthermore, one must refer to the actual numbers, not the percentages, to get a more accurate picture. That discrepancy--36% to 75%--is misleading when used in arguments without the proper context.

    Look at the number--625,000 families in the South owned slaves in 1830. What is their ethnic breakdown? How many Scots-Irish, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh families owned slaves? Then we have 332 confirmed Jewish households who owned slaves. That is a REALLY LOW NUMBER. Now out of that 332, what is their financial background? Naturally, the more money a Jewish family--like any other family--has at their disposal, the more likely they may show off their wealth, which in this particular instance in the South would be purchasing slaves.

    Furthermore, one must take into account other differences in demographics. For example, poorer families were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families. To what extent were these Jews who owned slaves wealthy? How does that compare to other ethnic groups of similar economic status?
    It makes sense for Jews and other ethnic groups to have slaves in their households. So, did they own slaves because of their ethnic standing or because of their social class standing? Or, do we take into account BOTH factors?

    Stated another way, the proportion of slaveholders is other than an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. Again, would not purchasing slaves be a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority or because of the family’s wealth, or both?

    In addition, if we account for all other factors, it ends up there is no statistically significant difference between Jews and the overall population in terms of slave ownership, especially since levels of slave ownership varied in the southern states and in southern cities. For example, this source (forward.com/articles/205455/slaves-of-charleston/?p=all) notes that in 1830 the proportion of Jewish residents of Charleston who owned slaves was similar to that of the general white population (83% versus 87%).
    , @Corvinus
    "While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out."

    So, do you dispute the statistics I offered in Comment 88? If yes, why?

    Ah, yes, memory lane. Here is what I wrote to bring home the point.

    http://www.unz.com/freed/notes-for-a-white-kid-in-university

    Remember, when Martin made this claims, he purposely neglected to offer context. Why? That is the crux of the matter here. You are hammering home a point without addressing the fundamental issues his fellow historians and I have legitimately raised.

    Answer the questions.

    One must also take into consideration that the 1830 census looked at households who had slaves. What definition was used here? Did Marcus and Rosenwaite employ the same one?

    Recall also that religion and slaveholder did NOT appear until the 1860 census. One could delve deeper and more accurately into the extent of Jewish slavery in the South. Were Jews typical or atypical compared to (insert ethnic group or religious group here)?

    Due to a lack of data on religion, it is difficult to make an exact estimate of the percentage of southern Jews who owned slaves, but the best estimates show that they were fairly similar to their Christian neighbors in this regard. Furthermore, their statistics only accounts for ONE difference—Jewish versus non-Jewish. We know that poorer people were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families. How did the population of southern Jews compare to non-Jewish in this regard?

    What is the comparison between Jews and non-Jews, Jews and other ethnic groups who owned slaves in the South? This comparison essential to offering perspective from a state to state basis here.

    Again, is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, does it represent a family’s wealth, or both? Is this attitude similar or different compared to non-Jews? How and why?

    “So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves. Compared to who? Non-Jewish people? Those of English descent, or Scots-Irish? In urban areas? In rural areas? Again, perspective matters here. What about raw numbers? Is it fair to say that more whites than Jews owned slaves? Controlled the slave trade? Were plantation owners in greater numbers? Treated their slaves more harshly?

    A lot of things for you to consider.
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  93. @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    What skills are you talking about? Shoveling manure? Stocking shelves at the casbah? The average Syrian has an IQ in the mid 80s and that of a sub-Saharan African below that.

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  94. @Them Guys
    You are so fucking wrong it is not even funny. If you really believe what you wrote of, and I'd bet you sure do. It is a testimony of just how idiotic a liberal lefty is. And you make it obvious that once a persons mind set is akin to yours….That warped, wrong mind is nearly impossible for anyone to change it. This is the main reason that while good minded folks speak or write of best methods to debate a liberal, so to get the lib to change and awaken to REALITY. It's most often a total waste of time.


    NO! Everybody is Not born with exact same "Potentials" as you believe. If true as You stated it to be? Tell us all why cannot everyone play a piano like Mozart and also Write their own masterful concert music? The world you describe would be one which has every individual possessing zero individuality. More like N. Koreans look like when seen on tv at some military parade with mandatory citizen spectators. 99% of them look exact same size, shape, clothes, hats, shoes, mustaches, and beady dark eyes. That may be good for Koreans, but not for entire worlds pop eh.


    Your entire world view is so fucked up its uncanny and plain stupid. Plus like most black negroes, you blame an entire nations founding peoples for every abject failure of low life, low IQ, third world heathens.


    You'd do well to live in state of Washington eh....I just saw a headline news article yesterday, I only read the main headline as its all one needs know, to know how totally dumbed down stupid state of Washington residents actually are.


    News Headline for state of Washington stated:...Finally! Washington state Voters will now be able to vote in next elections, for a...CARBON Tax! In order to "Help Mitigate, Global climate changes" aka global warming nonsense...


    And you'd be hard pressed to find a Dozen at best, of that fully liberalized communized state's voters, smart enough to ask a very simple question of..."Gee, if we okay a statewide carbon tax to get paid by folks who add more pollution, and this will make it okay for them to continue adding even more pollution, How the fuck is that extra tax paid going to change anything?


    Or in other words for very dumbed downs...Gee if pollution causes global warming, why should anybody be allowed to add yet more pollution just because they Pay Extra taxes? Wont this make the situation even worse yet?


    Of course its as stupid as can get. But bet your ass them totally idiotic libs in that state are going to pass it as state law by huge margins. None will even ask "Who determines how much is too much and then triggers the Tax?".....No, they will more likely ask something like. "Hey Which poor deprived African savages and Illegal Invader-immigrants can we Spend all that extra Tax Cash on next, to make us stupid liberal dem virtue signalers look swell to the Global Community eh?"


    I want every idiotic open border clown like You, and every always complaining, ingrate African and Mexican and Jew in America to get the fuck Out and do so ASAP quick...Try a nice move and new life in Sudan Africa or Hatti so you all can be rid of life with Us, usa Whiteys that create such a painful life for you all. Because if you keep doing those type policies and agendas much longer, I predict you types shall Really learn very soon, what real verified pain, life within usa will be like.


    In other words Masses of Euro Whites in USA as well as EU nations, are fast waking up, and also getting Very, Very royally Fed Up and too pissed off for words...That should be clue #1 as to, why in past decade or so has so many Whiteys made, then fast broken, every prior record for total numbers of Firearms & Cases of Ammo Purchased. Records so large the fbi Nics check system said they may stop reporting massively broken nics check records every month, since numbers increase constantly and with No end in sight!


    Hint: Them whiteys ain't buying so many costly, expensive firearms just for hunting rabbits or doing weekend target practices eh...No, rather the new nationwide rates of awakening and getting more pissed off weekly has grown faster than most any other thing you can compare with or to.


    With a major reason being stuff like You wrote!...So thanks, at least if you assist even one more Whitey in America to become a pro usa, pro whitey-brand new gun owner after he/she reads what You wrote.


    PS; Don't even consider a move with your tag along low life pals into My rural area, it simply wont work out for you types or more importantly for Us already here. We don't do debates and such when it comes to invaders who never should come in first place.


    PPS: All that, UN human rights mandate stuff...Don't apply nor count in America, as we already have our very Own, Bill of Rights. And once it all goes Hot, so called "Special Minority rights" etc. will be Second thing to Go! Directly after the very first thing to Go, which of course shall be every fuckin Illegal Invader person who has zero rights to invade America.


    Plus read fine print in each UN rights papers. You should find there, statements on how, paraphrasing here, "These listed human rights such as free speech etc. will remain valid for all peoples...Unless and Until the proper UN Appointed (not elected!) group of Regulators determine to Change any parts of said rights."....Furthermore, several us supreme court decisions, have stated that, even with a 2/3rds vote by us senate to ratify any Treaty with UN or other nations, is Invalid if such a treaty will radically harm or negate the usa const, that Is the valid legal framework American Fed Govnt must adhere to etc. And IIRC usa has not ratified any UN rights agreement or treaty as yet.(???). Even if us senate did ratify it is still bogus as a three dollar bill in every detail which it don't jive with Our usa const.

    This poster must be troll from the right, just riling people up to keep morale and anger high or to test the current mood. He’s probably Tiny Duck from Steve Sailer’s blog.

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  95. Trupright says:
    @The Alarmist

    "Take the term “liberal.” It once belonged to the good guys. But socialists, communists and Fabians stole it from us."
     
    Take the colour Red. It used to be the universal colour of Communists everywhere, and it still is in many places, but somehow America's reds have foisted the colour red off on unwitting Republicans, who now embrace it with relish, while wrapping the leftist Democrats in true American blue.

    A little piece of me dies every time I see a Tweet from a Republican or Conservative wishing for this state or that state to "Go Red" in the next election.

    Of course it was the MSM who came up with the color scheme. We should start to change that and call deep Dem states RED so even the dimmest voter can remember Red for reds.

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  96. Liza says:
    @utu
    Sorry. Wasn't aware even of that. Do google search of "Hitler second book pdf" and you will get several links to pdf files. Some of them work.

    OK. Thanx.

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  97. The people who sold us out were Democrats and Republicans. They were not motivated by ideology. They and the people paying them are motivated by greed and lust for power. Our ruling class is neither right nor left. It is a criminal class.

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  98. @Rational
    IF INDIANS CAN BE PATRIOTIC AT THE TAJ MAHAL, WHY CAN’T WE ALL BE?

    Excellent article!! Thanks.

    The real reason why people started appointing Kings and establish govt. is for one purpose—to keep out invaders. Invaders were stealing cattle, and women and attacking people, so people got together and said, let’s appoint one of us to guard us. So started Kingdoms.

    Keeping aliens out is the essence of civilization. Let’s ask Indians, who have one of the oldest civilization on earth:

    Here is a quote about the Taj Mahal:

    “For foreigners, the entrance fee for the Taj Mahal is 1,000 rupees. Indian nationals only pay 40 rupees. Children younger than 15 years are free. Tickets can be purchased at ticket offices near the entry gates or online at this website.”

    See: https://www.tripsavvy.com/taj-mahal-essential-travel-guide-1539343

    In other words migrants (the terms libs use for all aliens or foreigners) pay 25 times more than natives just to look inside the Taj Mahal.

    Same with most other attractions, including Elephanta Caves. Indians: Rs. 10. Foreigners: Rs. 250. See:

    http://elephanta.co.in/

    Next time a liberal tries to attack you about your patriotism, tell him about this. If Indians, from one of the oldest civilization in the world, can be patriotic, why can’t we?

    I find this the most effective way to denigrate liberals—use examples from foreign non-white countries that go against them, as it is hard for them to claim “racist, racist” and take the upper ground, morally and culturally. In other words, you are telling a white liberal that he is less cultured and civilized than 3rd world people, who have more sense.

    The liberal often freezes in confusion at this and his/her mind goes blank.

    Because most Indians will have a hard time getting 1000 rupees together, while it’s chump change to a Western tourist.

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  99. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.
     
    Speaking of peddling nonsense, Corvy, what’s this?:

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”
     
    While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so.

    Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic.

    “While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so. Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic.”

    We have already been down this road before. The comparison to be made is between different ethnic groups and Jews. Why? Jews are an ethnic group, whites are not an ethic group. Furthermore, one must refer to the actual numbers, not the percentages, to get a more accurate picture. That discrepancy–36% to 75%–is misleading when used in arguments without the proper context.

    Look at the number–625,000 families in the South owned slaves in 1830. What is their ethnic breakdown? How many Scots-Irish, Anglo-Saxon, Welsh families owned slaves? Then we have 332 confirmed Jewish households who owned slaves. That is a REALLY LOW NUMBER. Now out of that 332, what is their financial background? Naturally, the more money a Jewish family–like any other family–has at their disposal, the more likely they may show off their wealth, which in this particular instance in the South would be purchasing slaves.

    Furthermore, one must take into account other differences in demographics. For example, poorer families were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families. To what extent were these Jews who owned slaves wealthy? How does that compare to other ethnic groups of similar economic status?
    It makes sense for Jews and other ethnic groups to have slaves in their households. So, did they own slaves because of their ethnic standing or because of their social class standing? Or, do we take into account BOTH factors?

    Stated another way, the proportion of slaveholders is other than an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. Again, would not purchasing slaves be a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority or because of the family’s wealth, or both?

    In addition, if we account for all other factors, it ends up there is no statistically significant difference between Jews and the overall population in terms of slave ownership, especially since levels of slave ownership varied in the southern states and in southern cities. For example, this source (forward.com/articles/205455/slaves-of-charleston/?p=all) notes that in 1830 the proportion of Jewish residents of Charleston who owned slaves was similar to that of the general white population (83% versus 87%).

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  100. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.
     
    Speaking of peddling nonsense, Corvy, what’s this?:

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”
     
    While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out. As Professors Soltow and Rosenwaike documented in their respective studies, while 36% of white households owned slaves in the 1830s, twice as many (75%) of Jewish households did so.

    Still waiting for you to apologize to the late Prof. Tony Martin whose reputation you besmirched for quoting this verified statistic.

    “While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out.”

    So, do you dispute the statistics I offered in Comment 88? If yes, why?

    Ah, yes, memory lane. Here is what I wrote to bring home the point.

    http://www.unz.com/freed/notes-for-a-white-kid-in-university

    Remember, when Martin made this claims, he purposely neglected to offer context. Why? That is the crux of the matter here. You are hammering home a point without addressing the fundamental issues his fellow historians and I have legitimately raised.

    Answer the questions.

    One must also take into consideration that the 1830 census looked at households who had slaves. What definition was used here? Did Marcus and Rosenwaite employ the same one?

    Recall also that religion and slaveholder did NOT appear until the 1860 census. One could delve deeper and more accurately into the extent of Jewish slavery in the South. Were Jews typical or atypical compared to (insert ethnic group or religious group here)?

    Due to a lack of data on religion, it is difficult to make an exact estimate of the percentage of southern Jews who owned slaves, but the best estimates show that they were fairly similar to their Christian neighbors in this regard. Furthermore, their statistics only accounts for ONE difference—Jewish versus non-Jewish. We know that poorer people were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families. How did the population of southern Jews compare to non-Jewish in this regard?

    What is the comparison between Jews and non-Jews, Jews and other ethnic groups who owned slaves in the South? This comparison essential to offering perspective from a state to state basis here.

    Again, is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, does it represent a family’s wealth, or both? Is this attitude similar or different compared to non-Jews? How and why?

    “So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves. Compared to who? Non-Jewish people? Those of English descent, or Scots-Irish? In urban areas? In rural areas? Again, perspective matters here. What about raw numbers? Is it fair to say that more whites than Jews owned slaves? Controlled the slave trade? Were plantation owners in greater numbers? Treated their slaves more harshly?

    A lot of things for you to consider.

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    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.
     
    No, according to the work of two Jewish demographers, Soltow and Rosenwaike, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.
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  101. CCR says:

    The effeminated and antichristian west is in ruins .

    Wrong. Christianity is inherently an effeminate and left-wing religion.

    Your arrow of causation is pointed in the wrong direction. Yeshuanity is an alien cult foisted/imposed on Europe by a Semitic tribe. Yeshua himself was a SJW do-gooder who preached that whores were good, capitalism was bad, and we should “share” with malingerers and incompetents – the very essence of communism.

    What Western Civilization has accomplished has been in spite of Yeshuanity, certainly not because of it. Yeshuanity is the noose around our neck. What we see today is Yeshuanity without the underpinnings of traditional underlying European culture and genetic predisposition. I’m not advocating a return to our “pagan” mythologies, but it’s pretty obvious that the “we are all created in the image of YHWH” bullshit is our doom.

    Absolutely correct.

    The Pope is the most honest Yeshuan to head the RCC in my lifetime. And while millions of the faithful can see he’s a communist, they’re unable to see that Yeshuanity is communist inherently. Instead of waking up, they double down and say retarded crap like “sacrificing for the world’s destitute third world savages or mentally ill homos and trannies isn’t Yeshuan.”

    Again, absolutely correct.

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  102. @Cyrano
    Whoever said that “Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we’ll hang them” was wrong.

    It’s actually the other way around. The Socialists “sold” them the rope with which the capitalists we’ll hang themselves. That rope is multiculturalism, or phony socialism.

    Or to be more accurate, the Socialists didn’t sell them anything. Multiculturalism was a phony propaganda BS project by the good old capitalists trying to fake incorporating some socialist elements into capitalism in order to prevent the full takeover by the socialist system. The real socialism collapsed pretty much peacefully (except for Ceausescu). Good luck dismantling the phony socialism (multiculturalism) bloodlessly.

    My dear friend.
    I did not expect you to be so uniformed.
    The movement of Blacks and Browns into Europe never was and is NOT spontaneous movement.
    It was advertised organized and, controlled and payed for by Rothschild- Soros network.
    They were ones who rented and or purchased the the boats, selected the people.
    They even given them funds (pocket money) in Euro.
    (I do have this from reliable source)

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  103. @Corvinus
    "Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews."

    I see that you are still peddling that nonsense.

    Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    All this talk about slavery does not take into account how for example inside England common people were treated as slaves, or even worse, a slave had value, thus was kept alive
    Roy & Lesley Adkins, ‘Jack Tar, The extraordinary lives of ordinary seamen in Nelson’s navy’, 2009 London
    Maurice Beresford, ‘The Lost Villages of England’, 1969, London
    John Prebble, ‘The Highland Clearances’, London 1969

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  104. @Che Guava
    It is far simpler than that. Frau Merkhin was a functionary of the Socialist Unity Party (the names of Eastern European parties, and the extent to which they had coalitions, are worth a little study in themselves) until her twenties, at least. Her father was a pastor in the equivalent of the 'living Church' set up by the jewish Bolsheviks in Russia..

    She is a Manchurian candidate par excellence, non pareil.

    Her hand gestures, particularly the triangle she loves to form with her fingers, are reallly creepy.

    Nevertheless, what goes on inside this sfinx only the sfinx knows

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  105. @utu
    Sorry. Wasn't aware even of that. Do google search of "Hitler second book pdf" and you will get several links to pdf files. Some of them work.

    What I consider the best book about Hitler
    Otto Wagener, ‘Hitler aus nächster Nähe, Aufzeichnungen eines Vertrauten 1929-1932, Hrsg. Henry A. Turner’, 1987, Kiel, ISBN 3-88741-129-3
    Wagener was from 1929 to 1932 possibly the closest compagnion of Hitler.
    His socialist ideas were a hindrance when Hitler sought the support of German big industrialists.
    Henry A Turner checked the book, written from memory after the war in a British POW camp, in any possible way.
    An interesting statement in the book is about Hitler as Aussendeutscher, a German outside Germany, Hitler was an Austrian, therefore Hitler’s ideas about pre 1914 Germany, a Germany that Hitler idealised.

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  106. @Respect
    The EU , and the USA , overtaxes middle clases , working people , and gives the money to the oligarcs , to the oversized Government , and to unproductive people and inmigrants .

    What is the " Welfare State " ? , it is the welfare of the State .

    Gorbatchow said about the EU ‘it is all about economic power’.
    Alas, as the Brussels oligarchy now maybe is realising, economic power does not exist.

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  107. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    People ,and governments become like herds. They do not follow their their own reasoning's, they follows only trends.
    Concerning UN there are two forces. First is that there are so many bureaucrats that that most of them have to create their own workload. The second is that they are under complete control of Globalists. Multiculturalism and the proof of its benefits is the main subject of the day.
    Concerning how people survived communist, explanation is quite easy. People did have enough to eat, and nobody went really hungry. There were no homeless people.
    Medical care was adequate. and the education was very good.
    Concerning this compartmentalization, I am not familiar with.

    ” The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present. ”
    Except for ‘has been’ I fully agree.
    But on top of this, I suspect that Merkel believes the brain washing about the evil Germans, they caused two world wars and perpetrated the holocaust, thus the German people must disappear through mass immigration.
    Then there is the jewish motive for the EU, CIDI, more or less the Dutch AIPAC, accused Wilders of being an antisemite because Wilders is anti EU.
    Now, if there is anyone in the Netherlands who hates Muslims and Islam, it is Wilders, and he’s great friend of Israel, where he lived in a kibbutz for two years, from the age of 17 to 19, something like that.
    His grandmother was jewish, his wife is said to be jewish.
    Jews feel secure in multi ethnic states, and indeed, they were happy in the Habsburg empire.
    Soros’ efforts for mass immigration here are not unnoticed here, especially his conflict with Hungary, where he was born.
    Revenge ?

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  108. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.

    The rural whites we call "deplorables" who no longer have any connections to Europe and no money will be analogous to Boers.

    Usually the upper-class has money, qualifications and connections. So they move. They might talk about "community" but deep down their are transnationals who have spent long stretches of their life abroad anyhow.

    The poor who have never been out of their city or town and given their life to their zip code will discover the upper-class doesn't give a shit about.

    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.

    When the monetary system collapses the one percent will cease to exist as the one percent and will be at the mercy of the 99%.

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    Do you think they don't have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?

    Societies like New Zealand or Australia pay a high minimum wage (Which does lead to inflation and stagflation) so the divisions between rich and poor are not nearly as stark as the United States.

    Therefore, they are not going to storm the mansions of American millionaires who've moved there because the US has become a Brazil of homeless.
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  109. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "While this quote is jammed pack with statistics, it leaves the most pertinent one out."

    So, do you dispute the statistics I offered in Comment 88? If yes, why?

    Ah, yes, memory lane. Here is what I wrote to bring home the point.

    http://www.unz.com/freed/notes-for-a-white-kid-in-university

    Remember, when Martin made this claims, he purposely neglected to offer context. Why? That is the crux of the matter here. You are hammering home a point without addressing the fundamental issues his fellow historians and I have legitimately raised.

    Answer the questions.

    One must also take into consideration that the 1830 census looked at households who had slaves. What definition was used here? Did Marcus and Rosenwaite employ the same one?

    Recall also that religion and slaveholder did NOT appear until the 1860 census. One could delve deeper and more accurately into the extent of Jewish slavery in the South. Were Jews typical or atypical compared to (insert ethnic group or religious group here)?

    Due to a lack of data on religion, it is difficult to make an exact estimate of the percentage of southern Jews who owned slaves, but the best estimates show that they were fairly similar to their Christian neighbors in this regard. Furthermore, their statistics only accounts for ONE difference—Jewish versus non-Jewish. We know that poorer people were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families. How did the population of southern Jews compare to non-Jewish in this regard?

    What is the comparison between Jews and non-Jews, Jews and other ethnic groups who owned slaves in the South? This comparison essential to offering perspective from a state to state basis here.

    Again, is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, does it represent a family’s wealth, or both? Is this attitude similar or different compared to non-Jews? How and why?

    “So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves. Compared to who? Non-Jewish people? Those of English descent, or Scots-Irish? In urban areas? In rural areas? Again, perspective matters here. What about raw numbers? Is it fair to say that more whites than Jews owned slaves? Controlled the slave trade? Were plantation owners in greater numbers? Treated their slaves more harshly?

    A lot of things for you to consider.

    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.

    No, according to the work of two Jewish demographers, Soltow and Rosenwaike, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.

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  110. @Realist

    Not in the US. The 1% will move to New Zealand or Auckland just as better-off white South Africans moved to Australia or UK.
     
    When the monetary system collapses the one percent will cease to exist as the one percent and will be at the mercy of the 99%.

    Do you think they don’t have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?

    Societies like New Zealand or Australia pay a high minimum wage (Which does lead to inflation and stagflation) so the divisions between rich and poor are not nearly as stark as the United States.

    Therefore, they are not going to storm the mansions of American millionaires who’ve moved there because the US has become a Brazil of homeless.

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    Do you think they don’t have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?
     
    When the monetary system breaks down, so will society. How are these dumb ass billionaires going to get this shit to New Zealand??? When what you need is food what good is a classic car or antique guns or art. The under class will kill them and take what they want. Stocks and bonds would be worthless.
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  111. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    So according to Martin, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.
     
    No, according to the work of two Jewish demographers, Soltow and Rosenwaike, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.

    Just as I suspected, you (again) run away from discourse.

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    Just as I suspected, you (again) run away from discourse.
     
    LOL

    You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home.

    Now, try not to fly away from doing the right thing, Corvy.

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  112. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Wally
    posted:
    “Even the Nazis did not stoop to selling photo souvenirs of death camps, but in the US, Deep South lynching scenes became a burgeoning profit for the postcard industry. The trade had grown so large, and sending postcards featuring the victims of lynchings had become so common, that the U.S. Postmaster General banned the cards from the US mail delivery by 1908″ commmment at moonofalabama

    Country was built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years . Let the voluntarily coming immigrant destiny those edifices ."

    There were no "death camps".

    Never heard of "postcards featuring the victims of lynchings", that's how "common" they were. LOL

    No the country was not "built on the back of the forced unpaid labor exacted for over 200 years", there is no proof it was.
    Slavery, which would not have happened if Africans did not sell their slaves in the first place*, impacted a small sector of the US economy.

    * African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    www.codoh.com

    Never heard of “postcards featuring the victims of lynchings”, that’s how “common” they were. LOL

    That just shows your ignorance. History did not begin and end with Hitler and the Nazis.

    Do a web search, and you will find the postcards online. A hundred and twenty years ago they were common.

    My communist grandmother once recounted her first sexual encounter for me. It was around 1890, and she was ten years old. She seduced a black man, and he demanded money from her. She gave him a book that belonged to her father. A mob chased him down and lynched him. I will never forget what she told me about it. “I could have saved him by confessing, but I didn’t. I wanted to have sex with him, and I wanted to see him hang.”

    She exposed the twisted root of her feminism and communism.

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  113. DeriKuk says:

    I disagree with the title of the article . It should be:

    ” The left wrapped themselves in the label of ‘liberalism’, and used it to sell socialism.”

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  114. @jilles dykstra
    " The United States has clearly been a model for what is being done to Europe at present. "
    Except for 'has been' I fully agree.
    But on top of this, I suspect that Merkel believes the brain washing about the evil Germans, they caused two world wars and perpetrated the holocaust, thus the German people must disappear through mass immigration.
    Then there is the jewish motive for the EU, CIDI, more or less the Dutch AIPAC, accused Wilders of being an antisemite because Wilders is anti EU.
    Now, if there is anyone in the Netherlands who hates Muslims and Islam, it is Wilders, and he's great friend of Israel, where he lived in a kibbutz for two years, from the age of 17 to 19, something like that.
    His grandmother was jewish, his wife is said to be jewish.
    Jews feel secure in multi ethnic states, and indeed, they were happy in the Habsburg empire.
    Soros' efforts for mass immigration here are not unnoticed here, especially his conflict with Hungary, where he was born.
    Revenge ?

    Agree.

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  115. @Hu Mi Yu

    Never heard of “postcards featuring the victims of lynchings”, that’s how “common” they were. LOL
     
    That just shows your ignorance. History did not begin and end with Hitler and the Nazis.

    Do a web search, and you will find the postcards online. A hundred and twenty years ago they were common.

    My communist grandmother once recounted her first sexual encounter for me. It was around 1890, and she was ten years old. She seduced a black man, and he demanded money from her. She gave him a book that belonged to her father. A mob chased him down and lynched him. I will never forget what she told me about it. "I could have saved him by confessing, but I didn't. I wanted to have sex with him, and I wanted to see him hang."

    She exposed the twisted root of her feminism and communism.

    Crap.

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    Crap.
     
    Here are a few hundred images of lynchings many from old postcards. The URL may be broken by the commenting system here. You can do a search on "lynching photos". Viewer discretion advised.
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lynching+photos&t=ffsb&ia=images&iax=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F--ebt6OnCkbU%2FT8AB5QZEZFI%2FAAAAAAAADM8%2F4LTt9GbiEEo%2Fs1600%2FLawrence_Nelson_high_res.jpg

    My grandmother's story was an introduction to a reading lesson. She had me read her a poem by Walt Whitman. A casual reader would never know the poem was about a lynching. That was how Whitman sold his hand-bound books. He traveled around the country writing topical poems and binding them into special local editions.
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  116. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    Just as I suspected, you (again) run away from discourse.

    Just as I suspected, you (again) run away from discourse.

    LOL

    You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home.

    Now, try not to fly away from doing the right thing, Corvy.

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    "You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home."

    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation. I clearly pointed out previously that several historians, from David Brion Davis to Winthrop D. Jordan, who took Martin's work to task, explaining how he employed shoddy scholarly methods and cherry-picked information. Indeed, his book contained Jewish sources, but he readily ignored evidence from them that would undermine his own thesis.

    Recall that historian Winthrop Jordan did NOT recognize that 75% statistic as being legitimate. Here is the context–> The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.

    “you or good old Winthrop need to point out were Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike went wrong in their demographic analysis.”

    Again, context matters. Out of 322 Jewish households in urban areas in the South, 75 percent (or 242 households) owned one or more slave. Martin made it appear in his book that this percentage is indicative of the entire United States. So the issue is how that statistic was generated and portrayed. And in our previous conversation you had stated it was a “relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable”.

    Again, we must provide a comparison to other ethnic household groups compared to Jews as far as how many households owned slaves. Stated another way, what is the ethnic breakdown of those Americans who owned slaves from 1820-1860? Would it not be fair to say that, for example, if the Scots-Irish consisted of the largest slave-holding ethnic group, that one could reasonable argue the Scots-Irish was more of a menace to blacks compared to Jews?

    Remember, Rosenwaike stated that “probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…” That meant 3/5 of Jewish families did NOT own slaves, right? So is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, is it a sign of a family’s wealth, or is it both? Furthermore, what is the ethnic breakdown of other ethnic groups who owed slaves in the South for a basis of comparison?

    Remember, Professor Bertram Korn stated that ”Another statistical indication of Jewish ownership of slaves, probably more accurate in terms of proportions than the census returns, are references to slaves in Jewish wills. Over the years, Professor Jacob R. Marcus has assembled at the American Jewish Archives, one hundred and twenty-nine wills of identifiable Southern Jews who died during the period of interest.

    Of these, 33 refer to the ownership and disposition of slaves. [That would mean 96 did NOT own slaves]. This would mean, if it is a reliable index, that perhaps one-fourth of Southern Jewish adults were slave owners. [That would mean three-fourths of Southern Jewish adults were NOT slave owners]. It is instructive that this matches the federal figures for the 1860 census, namely, that three-fourths of the white population of the South were not slave owners. Equally important, however, is the fact that only one-seventh of Southern Negroes were domiciled in towns and cities.

    So, are you going to continue to run away from discourse?

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  117. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Do you think they don't have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?

    Societies like New Zealand or Australia pay a high minimum wage (Which does lead to inflation and stagflation) so the divisions between rich and poor are not nearly as stark as the United States.

    Therefore, they are not going to storm the mansions of American millionaires who've moved there because the US has become a Brazil of homeless.

    Do you think they don’t have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?

    When the monetary system breaks down, so will society. How are these dumb ass billionaires going to get this shit to New Zealand??? When what you need is food what good is a classic car or antique guns or art. The under class will kill them and take what they want. Stocks and bonds would be worthless.

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    That's the fantasy of the underprivileged who will be abandoned like Boers while the 1% simply move to a functional country.
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  118. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    Just as I suspected, you (again) run away from discourse.
     
    LOL

    You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home.

    Now, try not to fly away from doing the right thing, Corvy.

    “You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home.”

    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation. I clearly pointed out previously that several historians, from David Brion Davis to Winthrop D. Jordan, who took Martin’s work to task, explaining how he employed shoddy scholarly methods and cherry-picked information. Indeed, his book contained Jewish sources, but he readily ignored evidence from them that would undermine his own thesis.

    Recall that historian Winthrop Jordan did NOT recognize that 75% statistic as being legitimate. Here is the context–> The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.

    “you or good old Winthrop need to point out were Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike went wrong in their demographic analysis.”

    Again, context matters. Out of 322 Jewish households in urban areas in the South, 75 percent (or 242 households) owned one or more slave. Martin made it appear in his book that this percentage is indicative of the entire United States. So the issue is how that statistic was generated and portrayed. And in our previous conversation you had stated it was a “relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable”.

    Again, we must provide a comparison to other ethnic household groups compared to Jews as far as how many households owned slaves. Stated another way, what is the ethnic breakdown of those Americans who owned slaves from 1820-1860? Would it not be fair to say that, for example, if the Scots-Irish consisted of the largest slave-holding ethnic group, that one could reasonable argue the Scots-Irish was more of a menace to blacks compared to Jews?

    Remember, Rosenwaike stated that “probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…” That meant 3/5 of Jewish families did NOT own slaves, right? So is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, is it a sign of a family’s wealth, or is it both? Furthermore, what is the ethnic breakdown of other ethnic groups who owed slaves in the South for a basis of comparison?

    Remember, Professor Bertram Korn stated that ”Another statistical indication of Jewish ownership of slaves, probably more accurate in terms of proportions than the census returns, are references to slaves in Jewish wills. Over the years, Professor Jacob R. Marcus has assembled at the American Jewish Archives, one hundred and twenty-nine wills of identifiable Southern Jews who died during the period of interest.

    Of these, 33 refer to the ownership and disposition of slaves. [That would mean 96 did NOT own slaves]. This would mean, if it is a reliable index, that perhaps one-fourth of Southern Jewish adults were slave owners. [That would mean three-fourths of Southern Jewish adults were NOT slave owners]. It is instructive that this matches the federal figures for the 1860 census, namely, that three-fourths of the white population of the South were not slave owners. Equally important, however, is the fact that only one-seventh of Southern Negroes were domiciled in towns and cities.

    So, are you going to continue to run away from discourse?

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    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation.
     
    No, you’re the one who needs to pay closer attention, here. Prof. Martin very accurately represented the results of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike’s work.

    Direct quote from Prof. Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness (p. 66):

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.
     
    Pretty black and white, I’d say. Why even a crow should be able to deduce the thrust of what is being said here - ie twice as many Jewish households owned salves, on a percentage basis, as whites did, in 1830.

    Now, you have two choices: apologize or fly away.
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  119. Ron says:
    @Realist

    Ludwig von Mises, David Conway, Ilana Mercer, anyone with even half a brain knows that unlimited immigration is insane, and will eventually destroy a country’s middle class.
     
    It would also destroy the upper class.

    It appears that no one places any value on kinship, commonality, shared traditions, religion, customs, etc. even though these things are the stuff of which nations are made. The far Left is so totally convinced none of these things matter in their imaginary egalitarian world that they are more than willing to overlook scientific reality in favor of a Utopian dream.

    All men are not created equal, nor all societies. Race matters, genes matter, and we ignore these things at our own peril.

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    It appears that no one places any value on kinship, commonality, shared traditions, religion, customs, etc. even though these things are the stuff of which nations are made.
     
    Sadly true. Whites tend to be more individualists while POC are more tribal/collective.

    All men are not created equal, nor all societies. Race matters, genes matter, and we ignore these things at our own peril.
     
    Absolutely correct.
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  120. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "You first apologize to the memory of the Prof. Tony Martin for calling him a liar for accurately quoting the work of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike and we can discourse until the cows come home."

    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation. I clearly pointed out previously that several historians, from David Brion Davis to Winthrop D. Jordan, who took Martin's work to task, explaining how he employed shoddy scholarly methods and cherry-picked information. Indeed, his book contained Jewish sources, but he readily ignored evidence from them that would undermine his own thesis.

    Recall that historian Winthrop Jordan did NOT recognize that 75% statistic as being legitimate. Here is the context–> The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.

    “you or good old Winthrop need to point out were Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike went wrong in their demographic analysis.”

    Again, context matters. Out of 322 Jewish households in urban areas in the South, 75 percent (or 242 households) owned one or more slave. Martin made it appear in his book that this percentage is indicative of the entire United States. So the issue is how that statistic was generated and portrayed. And in our previous conversation you had stated it was a “relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable”.

    Again, we must provide a comparison to other ethnic household groups compared to Jews as far as how many households owned slaves. Stated another way, what is the ethnic breakdown of those Americans who owned slaves from 1820-1860? Would it not be fair to say that, for example, if the Scots-Irish consisted of the largest slave-holding ethnic group, that one could reasonable argue the Scots-Irish was more of a menace to blacks compared to Jews?

    Remember, Rosenwaike stated that “probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…” That meant 3/5 of Jewish families did NOT own slaves, right? So is the purchasing of slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority, is it a sign of a family’s wealth, or is it both? Furthermore, what is the ethnic breakdown of other ethnic groups who owed slaves in the South for a basis of comparison?

    Remember, Professor Bertram Korn stated that ”Another statistical indication of Jewish ownership of slaves, probably more accurate in terms of proportions than the census returns, are references to slaves in Jewish wills. Over the years, Professor Jacob R. Marcus has assembled at the American Jewish Archives, one hundred and twenty-nine wills of identifiable Southern Jews who died during the period of interest.

    Of these, 33 refer to the ownership and disposition of slaves. [That would mean 96 did NOT own slaves]. This would mean, if it is a reliable index, that perhaps one-fourth of Southern Jewish adults were slave owners. [That would mean three-fourths of Southern Jewish adults were NOT slave owners]. It is instructive that this matches the federal figures for the 1860 census, namely, that three-fourths of the white population of the South were not slave owners. Equally important, however, is the fact that only one-seventh of Southern Negroes were domiciled in towns and cities.

    So, are you going to continue to run away from discourse?

    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation.

    No, you’re the one who needs to pay closer attention, here. Prof. Martin very accurately represented the results of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike’s work.

    Direct quote from Prof. Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness (p. 66):

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    Pretty black and white, I’d say. Why even a crow should be able to deduce the thrust of what is being said here – ie twice as many Jewish households owned salves, on a percentage basis, as whites did, in 1830.

    Now, you have two choices: apologize or fly away.

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    "Pretty black and white, I’d say."

    Actually it is a shade of intense gray. Martin takes that percentage out of context as I, as a "novice", and historians, as the "experts", have thoroughly demonstrated. You have yet to even counter any of those assertions. What are you so afraid of?

    Indeed, one study by Ira Rosenwaike published by the American Jewish Historical Society showed that 75% of the Jews of the South owned black slaves while 36% of the white population owned slaves. So 75% of 322 families is 241 Jewish families who owned slaves, compared to 36% of 625,000 which is 225,000 slave owning Non-Jewish families. You do realize that Jews are an ethnic group and whites are a racial group, correct? So the comparison made is apples to oranges.

    Martin, however, intentionally excluded that number (225,000), as well as the ethnic breakdown and social class standing of those families. He purposely evaded this discussion in his book, as it would completely undermine his thesis when the proper background information and analysis is offered. That is the point. So pay close attention here. Note that you have not even attempted to refute anything I have offered as evidence. That is telling.

    Continue to run away from discourse.
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  121. JoAnnF says:
    @Liza
    I wonder whose idea it was to bring in millions of immigrants from Africa and Asia in the first place.

    Coudenhove-Kalergi, out of a sense of not-belonging within the Austrian Nobility for being a mongrel – so let all men be mongrels, to psychologically make up for that (but he didn’t use these words)

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    Well, that certainly is as good a theory as any. They say our attitudes are shaped by our traumas. I would think that being a mongrel could create an uncomfortable feeling in a person who is surrounded by better looking, pure race people.
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  122. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Crap.

    Crap.

    Here are a few hundred images of lynchings many from old postcards. The URL may be broken by the commenting system here. You can do a search on “lynching photos”. Viewer discretion advised.

    My grandmother’s story was an introduction to a reading lesson. She had me read her a poem by Walt Whitman. A casual reader would never know the poem was about a lynching. That was how Whitman sold his hand-bound books. He traveled around the country writing topical poems and binding them into special local editions.

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  123. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    Pay close attention here. Martin did not accurately represent their work. That is the focus of the conversation.
     
    No, you’re the one who needs to pay closer attention, here. Prof. Martin very accurately represented the results of Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike’s work.

    Direct quote from Prof. Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness (p. 66):

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.
     
    Pretty black and white, I’d say. Why even a crow should be able to deduce the thrust of what is being said here - ie twice as many Jewish households owned salves, on a percentage basis, as whites did, in 1830.

    Now, you have two choices: apologize or fly away.

    “Pretty black and white, I’d say.”

    Actually it is a shade of intense gray. Martin takes that percentage out of context as I, as a “novice”, and historians, as the “experts”, have thoroughly demonstrated. You have yet to even counter any of those assertions. What are you so afraid of?

    Indeed, one study by Ira Rosenwaike published by the American Jewish Historical Society showed that 75% of the Jews of the South owned black slaves while 36% of the white population owned slaves. So 75% of 322 families is 241 Jewish families who owned slaves, compared to 36% of 625,000 which is 225,000 slave owning Non-Jewish families. You do realize that Jews are an ethnic group and whites are a racial group, correct? So the comparison made is apples to oranges.

    Martin, however, intentionally excluded that number (225,000), as well as the ethnic breakdown and social class standing of those families. He purposely evaded this discussion in his book, as it would completely undermine his thesis when the proper background information and analysis is offered. That is the point. So pay close attention here. Note that you have not even attempted to refute anything I have offered as evidence. That is telling.

    Continue to run away from discourse.

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  124. cassandra says:
    @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    This is a classic example of how left politics has been hijacked for use as a propaganda tool for promoting elite programs. In this case, an emotional but distorted narrative of children and families from war zones drowning in the Mediterranean and on its beaches, is presented to the population, to get Europeans to uncritically accept what is prima facie an organized EU social revolution. No one would accept the latter on its face value, but in the case of the former, many will be persuaded by the emotional argument that only the most selfishly heartless would oppose refugee migration. Heavy doses of contempt impressed upon dissenters by the MSM will not only discourage critical discussion, but will also reinforce self-censorship on the parts of the believers as well. It also carries the political war from the realm of emotion to morality.

    The trouble is, the emotional spin so distorts the situation that enunciating its propositions becomes an embarrassing reductio ad absurdum, as we find here.

    1. The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Good thing; were the fault with the migrant, we’d have to restrict immigration. Much better to blame ourselves.

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    2. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition.

    This mischaracterizes: oligarchs & corporations like cheap immigrant labor because it drives down payroll costs.

    3. Unlimited migration is not insane.

    Unlimited external immigration has historically been synonymous with pillage. The argument provided for internal migration is based on the fallacy that because it’s happening, it must be ok. However, migration to factory jobs in cities were accompanied by abuses that brought attention to the rights of workers, which led to the formation of the left, labor unions and socal programs in the first place. Those used to be the concerns of the left.

    4. Every human being is born with the same potential…

    Here’s one simple counterexample: without significant modification to my original equipment, I can’t bear a child because I’m male. I was never tall enough to have ever made the grade for MBA basketball, nor short enough to have the strength-to-wieght ratio required for gymnastics. People are born with all kinds of variable motor, linguistic, cognitive, social etc., differences. (Twin studies prove this by exception.) But let’s pretend!

    5. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.

    The immigrant may indeed bring talent and energy, but the migrant is also likely to bring with him/her many (hopefully temporary) “non-genetic deficiencies” that will be handicaps. Examples are a lack of knowledge of the language of the host country, lack of useful skills, and unfamiliarity with critical social taboos (like sexual assault, to cite an extreme case).

    Why are such self-deceptions common to the left? Traditionally, the left supported economic justice for the middle class, but since they jettisoned economic policies during the “Third Way” of the ’90′s, they lost the ability to oppose corporations, leaving them little to promote but emotional hand-wringing.

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  125. geokat62 says:

    You do realize that Jews are an ethnic group and whites are a racial group, correct? So the comparison made is apples to oranges.

    LOL Apples and oranges, huh.

    Are you calling into question the quality of Rosenwaike’s work as a demographer?

    If you are, you must feel very lonely:

    Ira Rosenwaike is no neophyte in the field of demographic research. His investigation of the Jewish population of America in 1790 and 1820 as well as that of Baltimore Jewry is well documented. His enumeration of the Jewish heads of households in the United States, from the census of 1830, will be consulted for many years to come. Anyone who has delved into the labyrinth of population analysis in early American history is aware of the pitfalls that Rosenwaike manages to avoid. The use of the national census, as he demonstrates, must be supplemented by congregational records, wills, memoirs, property and tax records, and periodicals in order to arrive at an accurate estimate. And even at that juncture, there is never any guarantee of certitude.

    Your point about race and ethnicity is meaningless, by the way. Even if Soltow included Jews in his estimate of whites, given the very small number of Jews (322 families) relative to the overall white population (625,000), the distortion of doing so would be vanishingly small.

    But continue to knock yourself out by grasping at straws.

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    "Are you calling into question the quality of Rosenwaike’s work as a demographer?"

    I am calling into question Martin's work here comparing whites, a racial group, to Jews, an ethnic group. Nice try at deflection. Interesting that some posters here, along with Martin, are not big fans of Jews, but they are willing to cite their work when it comes to slavery, although they end up not offering the appropriate context.

    "Your point about race and ethnicity is meaningless, by the way."

    No, it is actually meaningful and relevant. Another deflection on your part.

    "Even if Soltow included Jews in his estimate of whites..."

    It's about MARTIN. More deflection! Note that you have not even attempted to refute anything I have offered as evidence. That is telling.

    Continue to run away from discourse.

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  126. Realist says:
    @Ron
    It appears that no one places any value on kinship, commonality, shared traditions, religion, customs, etc. even though these things are the stuff of which nations are made. The far Left is so totally convinced none of these things matter in their imaginary egalitarian world that they are more than willing to overlook scientific reality in favor of a Utopian dream.

    All men are not created equal, nor all societies. Race matters, genes matter, and we ignore these things at our own peril.

    It appears that no one places any value on kinship, commonality, shared traditions, religion, customs, etc. even though these things are the stuff of which nations are made.

    Sadly true. Whites tend to be more individualists while POC are more tribal/collective.

    All men are not created equal, nor all societies. Race matters, genes matter, and we ignore these things at our own peril.

    Absolutely correct.

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  127. A very effective method of communicating boundaries literally and philosophically – defining one’s existence from another –

    build the wall .

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  128. @Them Guys
    Mises, Rand, and all those other economic experts, so called, were/are Jewish, and as anti Christian as can be. No wonder they are all big hero's of libertarians eh. Note also that none of those "experts" who promote any different monetary methods or policies or agendas...None ever discuss nor promote an End of Usury/Interest. Same as libertarians and their demands to return to gold standards etc. Yet even with a gold standard, unless Jewish usury/debt/interest money is done away with. And replaced with a system of State Govnt. Created and supplied and Interest FREE cash similar to as done in Germany to fix weimere republic fiascos, then none of those experts systems will fix much if anything.

    Besides germany doing interest free cash loans for buying homes or cars etc....Todays muslim nations also forbid all forms usury/interest fees or charges on loaned cash money. And they all seem to function swell eh. As long as Jew run usa carpet bombs do not hinder their nations.

    The USA Fed Gov has a Treasury Dept already set up. Has also printing presses used daily to create cash dollar bills. There is simply ZERO good reasons OUR Citizen owned Gov, cannot issue money and 30 yr. mortgage loans or car loans etc....Without any added interest fees...And maybe just a very small monthly fee added on to cover costs of collecting and recording payments made.

    With todays digital computer cash methods of direct deposits, direct bill payments, a small added fee of perhaps, $1.00 per month would cover all costs.


    Also, and not much reported on by any major msm, GW Bush as us prez signed an exec order for USA Muslim Citizens, to get 30 year Interest Free Bank Mortgage Loans to buy a home.


    When I last did a Refi on my home loan, I asked my local bank loan person doing my refi, to give Me the exact Same interest free 30 year refi loan as they would for a Muslim...Bank said No. You Must show valid serious proofs of being a Muslim and then can apply for such a loan or refi.


    I ask, How is This Not total discrimination, against All Non Muslims?....Being a solid life long White male American, life long born in usa citizen, don't measure up eh?


    I tried to get a lawyer to do a class action suit against GW's exec order based on discrimination etc...and..No Dice. Bottom line though is Cash Money should exist mainly to benefit a nations true, real citizens, as should the fed Govnt also exist For citizens benefit as number one reason to exist at all.....and cash or cash loans should be given to all citizens with proper good credit and means to repay and with zero interest fees, period. It is main thing that fixed Germanys monetary troubles in 1920-30's era, and will work swell in usa also if done so.


    Ironic No? How you never, ever see any so called Banking or fed reserve or money Experts, on tv news or Msnbc wall street shows, of which too many such experts to count are at daily, never, ever speak out about such a policy as was done in Germany and described by me here eh?


    Why do they so Fear folks learning of such interest free loan possibilities and how great it worked in Germany when done?....one main reason of why...They are so fucking Greedy and Worship Money as much as they self worship their sorry Jewish asses.


    How's about a fed reserve and us treas dept, run by Irish White Men usa citizens, who are Honest and actually do Care for America and its true citizenry eh. And will agree with interest free loan policy....It would be the biggest overall Boost to usa economy and prosperity for All to enjoy, like nothing ever yet seen in America...So much spare cash to spend and grow economy and create more good jobs it ain't funny eh. Think on it. Germans did, and look how swell it worked there.

    Typically, the vig is the juice on which the lazy/luxury class lives. They are people who like good life but are willing to do physical things instead preferring to indulge in work that taxes the mind for nefarious purposes. Until that class is put on a diet of severely less privileges through either physical restraints or judicial dictates, nothing will come off of it and for which either the populace has to have an adverse plan or the polity, the sense of urgency to rectify the imbalances. And until such time, that sense of hopelessness will pervade, unfortunately!

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    Whose going to put them on such a diet?

    Able-bodied people of average intelligence from modest backgrounds with no other options generally join the police and their own reasonably decent standard of living depends upon enforcing the whims of the upper-class-they won't make a public school safe but will probably pull over anyone in a wealthy part of town to make sure they don't have burglary tools.

    Even the days of union influence-always undermined by the mafia anyhow-are waning because production has been off-shored.

    The poor and working middle-class have no bargaining chips.

    Especially Gen Y. Most of the poor bastards have never HELD a decent-paying job. They're living at home at age 30. They've never been out in the world on their own and are essentially man-children who beat off in the basement of the house their own father was able to pay for when he was 30.
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  129. @Realist

    Do you think they don’t have assets? Houses, gems, classic cars, stocks, bonds, antique guns, art collections?
     
    When the monetary system breaks down, so will society. How are these dumb ass billionaires going to get this shit to New Zealand??? When what you need is food what good is a classic car or antique guns or art. The under class will kill them and take what they want. Stocks and bonds would be worthless.

    That’s the fantasy of the underprivileged who will be abandoned like Boers while the 1% simply move to a functional country.

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    That’s the fantasy of the underprivileged who will be abandoned like Boers while the 1% simply move to a functional country.
     
    You're living in a dream world.....the 1% can't live without the 99%, but the 99% can live just fine without the 1%.
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  130. @Dagon Shield
    Typically, the vig is the juice on which the lazy/luxury class lives. They are people who like good life but are willing to do physical things instead preferring to indulge in work that taxes the mind for nefarious purposes. Until that class is put on a diet of severely less privileges through either physical restraints or judicial dictates, nothing will come off of it and for which either the populace has to have an adverse plan or the polity, the sense of urgency to rectify the imbalances. And until such time, that sense of hopelessness will pervade, unfortunately!

    Whose going to put them on such a diet?

    Able-bodied people of average intelligence from modest backgrounds with no other options generally join the police and their own reasonably decent standard of living depends upon enforcing the whims of the upper-class-they won’t make a public school safe but will probably pull over anyone in a wealthy part of town to make sure they don’t have burglary tools.

    Even the days of union influence-always undermined by the mafia anyhow-are waning because production has been off-shored.

    The poor and working middle-class have no bargaining chips.

    Especially Gen Y. Most of the poor bastards have never HELD a decent-paying job. They’re living at home at age 30. They’ve never been out in the world on their own and are essentially man-children who beat off in the basement of the house their own father was able to pay for when he was 30.

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    Notwithstanding your dire scenario, I would think that the government will wake up to the plight of the people, for if they fail than the populace will get with the program, albeit bloody nasty!
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  131. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    That's the fantasy of the underprivileged who will be abandoned like Boers while the 1% simply move to a functional country.

    That’s the fantasy of the underprivileged who will be abandoned like Boers while the 1% simply move to a functional country.

    You’re living in a dream world…..the 1% can’t live without the 99%, but the 99% can live just fine without the 1%.

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  132. Realist says:
    @The Alarmist
    The problem is the collective madness of nearly all Western Nations. The only places the upper 1% non-minority types might have to flee to no longer include any of Europe, the UK, Canada, US, Australia or New Zealand. You now have to take your chances with Uruguay, Paraguay, Singapore, China, and perhaps Russia.

    When it all comes apart the 99% will eat the 1%.

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    That people on the bottom adjusted to hard-living will be like cockroaches after the nuclear war and be highest on the pecking order is an opiate of the anonymous impoverished.

    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.

    In the old days of the Romanov Czars the 1% lived in some castle. These days they live in the South of France and Hawaii, bank their money in a dozen different countries and have material assets to trade.

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won't have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France. None. They've lived overseas all their lives. The 1% doesn't care if they miss a hometown football game. They've got no roots.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they'll survive.
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  133. jhan says:

    “Once illiberal, unassimilable people gain “numeric superiority,” they will turn their population advantage into political advantage, using the host population’s liberalism against it.”

    Sounds like Muslims to me.

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  134. @Realist
    When it all comes apart the 99% will eat the 1%.

    That people on the bottom adjusted to hard-living will be like cockroaches after the nuclear war and be highest on the pecking order is an opiate of the anonymous impoverished.

    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.

    In the old days of the Romanov Czars the 1% lived in some castle. These days they live in the South of France and Hawaii, bank their money in a dozen different countries and have material assets to trade.

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won’t have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France. None. They’ve lived overseas all their lives. The 1% doesn’t care if they miss a hometown football game. They’ve got no roots.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they’ll survive.

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    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.
     
    Really, where will they get the food, energy and everything else they need to live???

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won’t have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.
     
    What makes you think the Japanese would let Whites over run their country???
    Why would the masses need to charter a private jet???? There will be thousands of jets both commercial and military with all the people that know how to fly them, fuel them and how to get the fuel to them. How to get the petroleum out of the ground how to refine it and so on....you know all the things the 1% don't know shit about.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France.
     
    Now there is someone to believe in.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they’ll survive.
     
    Ooooh hell no they won't, without the US government they are toast.

    In 2014 the top 1% in the US had an adjusted gross income of $465,626 and an average household income of $1,260,508. This is considerably more than the vast majority of doctors, scientists and middle managers. Not to mention everyone else.....you know the ones that know how to do useful things.... to survive.

    The super wealthy are leeches on the ass of the productive 99%. The 1% contributes absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind.
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  135. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    That people on the bottom adjusted to hard-living will be like cockroaches after the nuclear war and be highest on the pecking order is an opiate of the anonymous impoverished.

    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.

    In the old days of the Romanov Czars the 1% lived in some castle. These days they live in the South of France and Hawaii, bank their money in a dozen different countries and have material assets to trade.

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won't have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France. None. They've lived overseas all their lives. The 1% doesn't care if they miss a hometown football game. They've got no roots.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they'll survive.

    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.

    Really, where will they get the food, energy and everything else they need to live???

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won’t have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.

    What makes you think the Japanese would let Whites over run their country???
    Why would the masses need to charter a private jet???? There will be thousands of jets both commercial and military with all the people that know how to fly them, fuel them and how to get the fuel to them. How to get the petroleum out of the ground how to refine it and so on….you know all the things the 1% don’t know shit about.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France.

    Now there is someone to believe in.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they’ll survive.

    Ooooh hell no they won’t, without the US government they are toast.

    In 2014 the top 1% in the US had an adjusted gross income of $465,626 and an average household income of $1,260,508. This is considerably more than the vast majority of doctors, scientists and middle managers. Not to mention everyone else…..you know the ones that know how to do useful things…. to survive.

    The super wealthy are leeches on the ass of the productive 99%. The 1% contributes absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind.

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    "Leeches on the ass of productive"

    So some guy invents a social media patent. Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance. Or he sold some script and made millions.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.

    I cannot resent them that much.

    "Over run their country"

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate. They have overseas connections anyhow and do business globally. Moving means nothing to them.

    "Someone to believe in"

    I've rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I'm not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.
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  136. @Realist

    The 1% will be in Auckland, Seychelles or Switzerland when if the US got to that point.
     
    Really, where will they get the food, energy and everything else they need to live???

    The masses cannot get to them.

    They won’t have THE ASSETS to charter private jets and chase them to New Zealand or Tokyo.
     
    What makes you think the Japanese would let Whites over run their country???
    Why would the masses need to charter a private jet???? There will be thousands of jets both commercial and military with all the people that know how to fly them, fuel them and how to get the fuel to them. How to get the petroleum out of the ground how to refine it and so on....you know all the things the 1% don't know shit about.

    As Fred Reed, an expat like me, noted, it makes ZERO differences if the 1% have to spend the rest of their lives in their third home in the South of France.
     
    Now there is someone to believe in.

    And that is not including those who are dual citizens of Israel. Not the greatest country in the world but they’ll survive.
     
    Ooooh hell no they won't, without the US government they are toast.

    In 2014 the top 1% in the US had an adjusted gross income of $465,626 and an average household income of $1,260,508. This is considerably more than the vast majority of doctors, scientists and middle managers. Not to mention everyone else.....you know the ones that know how to do useful things.... to survive.

    The super wealthy are leeches on the ass of the productive 99%. The 1% contributes absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind.

    “Leeches on the ass of productive”

    So some guy invents a social media patent. Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance. Or he sold some script and made millions.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.

    I cannot resent them that much.

    “Over run their country”

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate. They have overseas connections anyhow and do business globally. Moving means nothing to them.

    “Someone to believe in”

    I’ve rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I’m not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.

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    So some guy invents a social media patent.
     
    The term is social media application....you don't invent a patent. But since you brought up Zuckerberg and Facebook. He stole the idea from fellow Jews the Winklevoss twins. This application has no intrinsic value and is only a tool to platform ads and make owners and investors wealthy. Many others have had the idea. It has wasted countless hours of countless millions that could have been used for productive effort.

    Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance.
     
    Another greed induced pursuit. The business whiz that develops 'financial products' is only in it to make money. Their goal is to find a way to, get around current laws, and/or scam unsuspecting people. Your argument could be used to describe a grifter who spends years learning his 'craft'.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.
     
    That statement could be used to describe a Mafia Don, a spy, a con man or a corrupt politician.
    The examples you have listed are not necessary for the 99%....they are self serving.

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate.
     
    Let's let the Japanese be the judge of that.

    I’ve rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I’m not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.
     
    Your enthrallment of the 1% and abject loathing of the 99% is sickening. Stay abroad
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  137. Che Guava says:

    I don’t know, Jilles, you are correct on that.

    Is ‘Sfinx’ the Dutch spelling of ‘Sphynx’?

    Enough is easy to see, though. Merkhin was a major and dedicated SED functionary in her youth and twenties.

    She is a genuine Manchurian candidate.

    Her objectives are very unclear.

    Hand gestures, as said, weird.

    Re. The Manchurian Candidate , have you seen the old film? I almost always am preferring the book to the film, but Richard Condom (whatever his real name is, and that is not it) is a total hack. Not bad as z-grade fiction.

    The movie (not the recent one, haven’t and not wanting to see it, the 1950′s one) is great.

    I am even sure Tarkovsky was to conscioussly using one idea from it in Solaris: the display of Communist ‘heroes’ on backlit panels.

    That is much the same in both, though the array of characters is different.

    I stay by what i say, Angela Merkhin is some kind of Manchurian candidate, and she loves odd hand gestures.

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  138. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    You do realize that Jews are an ethnic group and whites are a racial group, correct? So the comparison made is apples to oranges.
     
    LOL Apples and oranges, huh.

    Are you calling into question the quality of Rosenwaike’s work as a demographer?

    If you are, you must feel very lonely:


    Ira Rosenwaike is no neophyte in the field of demographic research. His investigation of the Jewish population of America in 1790 and 1820 as well as that of Baltimore Jewry is well documented. His enumeration of the Jewish heads of households in the United States, from the census of 1830, will be consulted for many years to come. Anyone who has delved into the labyrinth of population analysis in early American history is aware of the pitfalls that Rosenwaike manages to avoid. The use of the national census, as he demonstrates, must be supplemented by congregational records, wills, memoirs, property and tax records, and periodicals in order to arrive at an accurate estimate. And even at that juncture, there is never any guarantee of certitude.
     
    Your point about race and ethnicity is meaningless, by the way. Even if Soltow included Jews in his estimate of whites, given the very small number of Jews (322 families) relative to the overall white population (625,000), the distortion of doing so would be vanishingly small.

    But continue to knock yourself out by grasping at straws.

    “Are you calling into question the quality of Rosenwaike’s work as a demographer?”

    I am calling into question Martin’s work here comparing whites, a racial group, to Jews, an ethnic group. Nice try at deflection. Interesting that some posters here, along with Martin, are not big fans of Jews, but they are willing to cite their work when it comes to slavery, although they end up not offering the appropriate context.

    “Your point about race and ethnicity is meaningless, by the way.”

    No, it is actually meaningful and relevant. Another deflection on your part.

    “Even if Soltow included Jews in his estimate of whites…”

    It’s about MARTIN. More deflection! Note that you have not even attempted to refute anything I have offered as evidence. That is telling.

    Continue to run away from discourse.

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  139. geokat62 says:

    It’s about MARTIN. More deflection!

    Apologize, Corvy:

    Direct quote from Prof. Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness (p. 66):

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

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  140. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    "Leeches on the ass of productive"

    So some guy invents a social media patent. Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance. Or he sold some script and made millions.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.

    I cannot resent them that much.

    "Over run their country"

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate. They have overseas connections anyhow and do business globally. Moving means nothing to them.

    "Someone to believe in"

    I've rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I'm not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.

    So some guy invents a social media patent.

    The term is social media application….you don’t invent a patent. But since you brought up Zuckerberg and Facebook. He stole the idea from fellow Jews the Winklevoss twins. This application has no intrinsic value and is only a tool to platform ads and make owners and investors wealthy. Many others have had the idea. It has wasted countless hours of countless millions that could have been used for productive effort.

    Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance.

    Another greed induced pursuit. The business whiz that develops ‘financial products’ is only in it to make money. Their goal is to find a way to, get around current laws, and/or scam unsuspecting people. Your argument could be used to describe a grifter who spends years learning his ‘craft’.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.

    That statement could be used to describe a Mafia Don, a spy, a con man or a corrupt politician.
    The examples you have listed are not necessary for the 99%….they are self serving.

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate.

    Let’s let the Japanese be the judge of that.

    I’ve rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I’m not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.

    Your enthrallment of the 1% and abject loathing of the 99% is sickening. Stay abroad

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    "Japanese judge that"

    The 1% will go somewhere. The South Africans who got rich from diamonds are not in a Boer refugee camp. If the shit really goes South in the US you can bet that the 1% will find SOMEWHERE to go.

    If nothing else, they float around on a 1000 foot yacht.

    "Mafia Dons"

    I don't think you can compare some inventor of a lonely hearts club online or even a Fred Trump to John Gotti or Pablo Escobar.

    "Stay abroad"

    The day I moved to London from Phoenix I felt wonderful. I knew I'd never see another Beaner or tweaker.

    The lovely cool green of Hyde Park cleansed the pallet after seeing ominous Danny Trejo and Richard Ramirez types in dusty bus stops.

    English police were polite and courteous. They understood they were civil servants, not the lords and masters of those whose IQ was much higher than theirs.

    Dubai was also wonderful. No DUI. No meth head white trash following you around like the ones in Phoenix. No black crackheads with bulging bloodshot eyeballs. No hideous skanks pushing ass on the streets.

    Think I miss that shit?
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  141. Jay Fink says:
    @Anon
    Why don't browns want to be with fellow browns in Mexico?

    Why don't Indians want to fix all the problems in India where there are SO MANY?

    Why do they all want to run from their own kind and come to white nations?

    The welfare state is a big reason.

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  142. @Jeff Stryker
    Whose going to put them on such a diet?

    Able-bodied people of average intelligence from modest backgrounds with no other options generally join the police and their own reasonably decent standard of living depends upon enforcing the whims of the upper-class-they won't make a public school safe but will probably pull over anyone in a wealthy part of town to make sure they don't have burglary tools.

    Even the days of union influence-always undermined by the mafia anyhow-are waning because production has been off-shored.

    The poor and working middle-class have no bargaining chips.

    Especially Gen Y. Most of the poor bastards have never HELD a decent-paying job. They're living at home at age 30. They've never been out in the world on their own and are essentially man-children who beat off in the basement of the house their own father was able to pay for when he was 30.

    Notwithstanding your dire scenario, I would think that the government will wake up to the plight of the people, for if they fail than the populace will get with the program, albeit bloody nasty!

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  143. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete
    Those two quotes were correct about fascism and people ought to pay attention to what he was saying.

    It's too bad that Mercer taints his good name by associating herself with it in this bonehead article. The so called "right's" record on true liberalism at least in the US, is no better than the so called "left's."

    In fact, only ignoramuses still believe in the really simple minded false dichotomy of political left and right, at least as those terms have been commonly in the US for the last many decades. IOW, the "right" is just as sick and sappy as the "left" here.

    Rightists like Lindsey, Ryan, McCain, McConnell, Sasse, Romney, Collins, HW, W, and Jeb. You want “rightist”? It’s Sheriff Joe. He wouldn’t serve up the tapioca that these other sellouts do.

    The left-right distinction is perfectly useful. What populists and other patriots are waking up to is that we’ve been sold a bill of goods as to who is a “conservative.” Too, massive amounts of money flow to the sellouts of both “parties.” The Republican Party is a slave to campaign donors and its members know to stay away from conservative/nationalist/patriotic positions if they want to be re-elected. It’s been hard for rightists to understand that the scum who’ve run Washington for decades and their business and financial allies would actually give this great country away to little more than foreign savages and parasites — Top Priority for both major parties.

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  144. Ace says:
    @anon
    Anyone with half a brain knows migration outcomes are miserable because the societies that host the migrants refuse to accept them. The migrant host societies refuse to allow the skilled among the migrants from finding jobs in the community suitable to their skills, migrants are relegated to inferior schools, looked upon as competition, and kept in the dark about the language and culture of the migrate host nation and its various communities.

    The faults in migration lie not with the migrant, but with the society called upon to host the migrant.

    Further the UN mandates that the right to travel and to migrate to any place on earth without being discriminated against or denied access to the culture and language and basics of the migrant host is a inalienable human right. Often, those in control of the power of the state direct their puppets in the state to discriminate, or to make discrimination, against migrants possible. Right division wealthy conservative Oligarchs and upper middle class often fear the competition; which leads the class in fear of competition to insist that the power of the national institutions and private corporations be directed to discriminate against incoming migrant competition.

    Unlimited migration is not insane.. any more than the massive migrations that occur daily from the rural areas of America into the USA controlled major cities..are insane, at least not by the dictionary definition (check the statistics more than 85% of the American population living in the USA will live in a city or near a city within 20 miles of the sea coast in a very few years from now (present trends continuing)).

    IANALiberal. Every human being is born with the same potential; and every human on this earth has the same rights as every other human. Non genetic deficiencies in the migrant are the direct result of a failure of the society which host the social and technical development of that individual.
    Exchange new born (one from say Iran with one from say America); raise the children to the parents of the other, and each will be developed into a citizen of the nation in which they were raised, not in accord to the nation in which they were born. their knowledge of history, math, language and culture will be that of the host culture, not the culture of birth.

    That is some serious delusion there, son.

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  145. Ace says:
    @mcohen
    Stanley

    Did you know that the word "kaffir" originated from the Arab word "kafir" which means unbeliever.Arab slave traders in dar es salaam used it.\sniff/.
    White immigration to south Africa was resisted by the blacks because they believed the whites wanted to steal there land.Shaka the Zulu king was anti immigration.Does ilana like Zulu some chief.hmmmmm

    Hold him down you Zulu warrior
    Hold him down you Zulu chief chief chief

    https://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=2458

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir

    Would that be the land that the blacks themselves had stolen from other blacks, large parts of which lands were virtually uninhabited and certainly productive of nothing but grass and springboks?

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  146. geokat62 says:

    I am calling into question Martin’s work here comparing whites, a racial group, to Jews, an ethnic group. Nice try at deflection.

    So, it is always helpful to go back to a transcript of what exactly Prof. Tony Martin said about Jewish slave ownership relative to that of whites.

    In this video, Prof. Martin delved into this topic.

    Starting at 15:07, Professor Martin states:

    I discovered that, according to the 1830 census, that even though Jews were a small proportion of the population in North America, nevertheless, they were inordinately represented among the slave owners. Yes, they were a small portion of the population, overall, but on a percentage basis, apparently, Jewish historians themselves have analyzed the 1830 census and have discovered that, whereas for the white population as a whole, something like maybe 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So, on a percentage basis, Jews were more than twice as likely to own slaves, according… to an analysis of the 1830 census of the US done by Jewish historians, themselves.

    Now, let’s contrast this statement with this direct quote from one of the Jewish sourced Prof. Martin was referencing. It is from p.66 of Prof. Ira Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness :

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    So, Corvy, rather calling into question Prof. Martin’s work “comparing whites, a racial group, to Jews, an ethnic group,” you should be calling into question the work of Prof. Ira Rosenwaike for doing so.

    Do the right thing, Corvy, and apologize to the memory of the late Prof. Martin for accusing him of being a liar.

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  147. Ace says:
    @ThreeCranes
    American's so called "freedom of private properties" is hedged in by a thousand codes and restrictions--as well it should be. And we want it that way.

    That’s why all those people are fleeing California and Illinois. It’s because they love the crushing regulations and stupid interference by stupid politicians. Get real.

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  148. @Realist

    So some guy invents a social media patent.
     
    The term is social media application....you don't invent a patent. But since you brought up Zuckerberg and Facebook. He stole the idea from fellow Jews the Winklevoss twins. This application has no intrinsic value and is only a tool to platform ads and make owners and investors wealthy. Many others have had the idea. It has wasted countless hours of countless millions that could have been used for productive effort.

    Or he is a business whiz who spends 5 years in school learning how to make money in finance.
     
    Another greed induced pursuit. The business whiz that develops 'financial products' is only in it to make money. Their goal is to find a way to, get around current laws, and/or scam unsuspecting people. Your argument could be used to describe a grifter who spends years learning his 'craft'.

    Most of them must have done something to be earning that kind of money. They found an angle and it worked for them.
     
    That statement could be used to describe a Mafia Don, a spy, a con man or a corrupt politician.
    The examples you have listed are not necessary for the 99%....they are self serving.

    The 1% is small enough and wealthy enough to assimilate.
     
    Let's let the Japanese be the judge of that.

    I’ve rubbed elbows with the 1% and they have the money to live abroad. Many of them CHOOSE to live abroad. I’m not wealthy but I choose to live abroad.
     
    Your enthrallment of the 1% and abject loathing of the 99% is sickening. Stay abroad

    “Japanese judge that”

    The 1% will go somewhere. The South Africans who got rich from diamonds are not in a Boer refugee camp. If the shit really goes South in the US you can bet that the 1% will find SOMEWHERE to go.

    If nothing else, they float around on a 1000 foot yacht.

    “Mafia Dons”

    I don’t think you can compare some inventor of a lonely hearts club online or even a Fred Trump to John Gotti or Pablo Escobar.

    “Stay abroad”

    The day I moved to London from Phoenix I felt wonderful. I knew I’d never see another Beaner or tweaker.

    The lovely cool green of Hyde Park cleansed the pallet after seeing ominous Danny Trejo and Richard Ramirez types in dusty bus stops.

    English police were polite and courteous. They understood they were civil servants, not the lords and masters of those whose IQ was much higher than theirs.

    Dubai was also wonderful. No DUI. No meth head white trash following you around like the ones in Phoenix. No black crackheads with bulging bloodshot eyeballs. No hideous skanks pushing ass on the streets.

    Think I miss that shit?

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    Again, just tell us who and what you haven’t done. Shouldn’t take long.
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  149. Ace says:
    @Stan d Mute

    This is a world where he’s less of a liberal icon than John McCain or The Pope.
     
    The Pope is the most honest Yeshuan to head the RCC in my lifetime. And while millions of the faithful can see he’s a communist, they’re unable to see that Yeshuanity is communist inherently. Instead of waking up, they double down and say retarded crap like “sacrificing for the world’s destitute third world savages or mentally ill homos and trannies isn’t Yeshuan.”

    Cult members never admit they belong to a cult do they?

    You are in charge of the definition of “cult” I gather.

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  150. Ace says:
    @anon
    can you prove your statement "Private Property Ownership is the main key component to the beginning of, Freedom and Liberty for an Individual. "

    I say and hold to the statement that Private party ownership of products of the human mind or divisions of physical assets or rights to gate public assets to the devices, and findings of mankind are anti freedom and anti liberty furthermore they account for the privatized monopoly powers are responsible for the wars most of us are against and many of us are made to suffer from.

    We have a different interpretation of the same facts.

    Property law (real estate, copyright or patent) is the law of transferring public monopoly power to private party ownership.

    How can giving one party a monopoly essentially denying the rights of all others be democratic or lead to
    freedom and liberty.. for the individual. No way.. no way.. but I am open to your proof to the contrary..

    Suppose to morrow morning there were no copyright and no patent laws to protect the assets of Google and Microsoft.. Instead of two corporations controlling everything thousands of small individuals and corporations would compete for the same markets against each other. . free competition is the basis of individual liberty and freedom. not monopolized public resources in the hands of private enterprise.
    Rule of law established monopoly powers in private hands are the modern version of land grants and feudal lord system of the past.

    ** Property law (real estate, copyright or patent) is the law of transferring public monopoly power to private party ownership. **

    Please. Property law governs the acquisition, creation, protection, and disposition of real or artificial things. There is no initial or intermediate step whereby “public monopoly power” has exclusive ownership of anything and then transfers it into private hands.

    If there were no copyright, patent, or trade secret law no one would build or create anything as each person would know it’s futile to do that since their work product could be taken by others who did nothing to create it. The first two involve temporary monopolies, fool, and that third does not involve the state in creation or protection. What’s your address? I want to come over and take “your” car.

    What you perseverate about is the freedom of thieves which is quite different from the freedom we have in a state of ordered liberty, though our own system is quite disorderly, let it be said. Millions have no clue about or interest in liberty and its foundation and you do yeoman’s work in contributing to the reigning envy, confusion, and parasitism.

    It is not “democratic” to deny property rights.

    You are a very confused individual.

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  151. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    "Japanese judge that"

    The 1% will go somewhere. The South Africans who got rich from diamonds are not in a Boer refugee camp. If the shit really goes South in the US you can bet that the 1% will find SOMEWHERE to go.

    If nothing else, they float around on a 1000 foot yacht.

    "Mafia Dons"

    I don't think you can compare some inventor of a lonely hearts club online or even a Fred Trump to John Gotti or Pablo Escobar.

    "Stay abroad"

    The day I moved to London from Phoenix I felt wonderful. I knew I'd never see another Beaner or tweaker.

    The lovely cool green of Hyde Park cleansed the pallet after seeing ominous Danny Trejo and Richard Ramirez types in dusty bus stops.

    English police were polite and courteous. They understood they were civil servants, not the lords and masters of those whose IQ was much higher than theirs.

    Dubai was also wonderful. No DUI. No meth head white trash following you around like the ones in Phoenix. No black crackheads with bulging bloodshot eyeballs. No hideous skanks pushing ass on the streets.

    Think I miss that shit?

    Again, just tell us who and what you haven’t done. Shouldn’t take long.

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  152. KenH says:
    @The Alarmist

    "Take the term “liberal.” It once belonged to the good guys. But socialists, communists and Fabians stole it from us."
     
    Take the colour Red. It used to be the universal colour of Communists everywhere, and it still is in many places, but somehow America's reds have foisted the colour red off on unwitting Republicans, who now embrace it with relish, while wrapping the leftist Democrats in true American blue.

    A little piece of me dies every time I see a Tweet from a Republican or Conservative wishing for this state or that state to "Go Red" in the next election.

    Right, the Republicans used to be blue and the Dems red. I’m not sure when this got reversed. I watched election night in 1980 on Youtube last year and all the states Reagan won were blue and I believe that was also the case in the 1984 election.

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  153. KenH says:

    The problem is that the vast majority of non-white/third world entrants are militant racial nationalists while whites, largely through Jewish mental conditioning, are race doesn’t matterists. The second problem is that kosher conservative oriented whites are convinced that the right messaging coupled with economic prosperity will make third worlders raceless money grubbers just like most whites are today.

    They’re convinced it will all work itself out and a majority third world America will be just peachy because Rush Limbaugh reassures them so every day even though all available evidence is to the contrary. Rush is just one of many false prophets and flim flam men of American conservatism whose main job is to promote Israel and reverence for Jews.

    Unless whites become militant racial nationalists just like their growing foes inside the West then they will be rudely swept aside by peoples that are and into the dustbin of history.

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  154. clyde says:
    @Stan d Mute

    How come Americans don’t fight this de facto communism at home?
     
    Because we can’t look honestly at Amerinds, that’s why. We can’t acknowledge that they were Stone Age savages when we found them. We can’t admit they’re the most rabidly nationalistic people in America. To examine their communistic tendencies would be to pull back the curtain and see (as our ancestors did) what they really are. By extension, we must regard Mestizos and Indios as “Latinx” as if speaking Spanish was their defining characteristic. Never are we allowed to think that the Maya with their mountains of corpses of murdered children or the Aztec pyramids of murder victims’ skulls are the same race as our saintly Chippewa. No, they’re Latinx and our Amerinds spent their lives admiring butterflies and rainbows before evil crackers landed in Roanoke.

    All true. It’s a disgrace how we solved our Indian problem by defeating them in wars then passing laws and treaties for them to live on reservations. It was rough for them but all in all a lot better than other natives in other counties have been treated. Now some tribes can do great with casinos and tribal members can get bloated paychecks while sitting on their asses. I have never seen an Indian working a common floor job at an Indian casino.

    After all this we now allow ourselves to be invaded by Indians and semi-Indians who are native to Central America and Mexico. I have zero respect for the historic Aztecs and Mayan savages, but now we are letting their sons and daughters to enter and live here. We solved our Indian problem, which was not good enough due to white guilt. The solution: Create a new Indian problem by allowing in the Indians of Mexico/Central America. Liberalism is a mental disorder but then so is the greed of cheap labor addicted businesses.

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    Consider the Cherokee Tribe, which had treaties with the United States Government. During the War of 1812, the Cherokees fought FOR the British. This was clearly treasonous aiding & abetting an enemy during a time of actual war. It was also a violation of every treaty in effect.

    Why consider BANISHMENT of the Cherokee Tribe to Oklahoma, OUR disgrace?

    Why indeed?
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  155. APilgrim says:
    @clyde
    All true. It's a disgrace how we solved our Indian problem by defeating them in wars then passing laws and treaties for them to live on reservations. It was rough for them but all in all a lot better than other natives in other counties have been treated. Now some tribes can do great with casinos and tribal members can get bloated paychecks while sitting on their asses. I have never seen an Indian working a common floor job at an Indian casino.

    After all this we now allow ourselves to be invaded by Indians and semi-Indians who are native to Central America and Mexico. I have zero respect for the historic Aztecs and Mayan savages, but now we are letting their sons and daughters to enter and live here. We solved our Indian problem, which was not good enough due to white guilt. The solution: Create a new Indian problem by allowing in the Indians of Mexico/Central America. Liberalism is a mental disorder but then so is the greed of cheap labor addicted businesses.

    Consider the Cherokee Tribe, which had treaties with the United States Government. During the War of 1812, the Cherokees fought FOR the British. This was clearly treasonous aiding & abetting an enemy during a time of actual war. It was also a violation of every treaty in effect.

    Why consider BANISHMENT of the Cherokee Tribe to Oklahoma, OUR disgrace?

    Why indeed?

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  156. Malla says:
    @Dr. Krieger
    That would require liberals to leave authoritarians alone. Given history and current attitudes, I don't see that happenning.

    Me neither. Just stating an ideal situation.

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  157. Liza says:
    @JoAnnF
    Coudenhove-Kalergi, out of a sense of not-belonging within the Austrian Nobility for being a mongrel - so let all men be mongrels, to psychologically make up for that (but he didn't use these words)

    Well, that certainly is as good a theory as any. They say our attitudes are shaped by our traumas. I would think that being a mongrel could create an uncomfortable feeling in a person who is surrounded by better looking, pure race people.

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  158. my2cents says:

    I cannot recall the last time I read such an incredibly dumb and ignorant article.
    May I suggest that Ms Mercer visits the Netherlands or Denmark and see just how social democracy works. The freedoms its grants its citizenry. How it stimulates learning and provides free University for everyone in order that they become contributing members of society….instead of the American system which excels in dumbing down the American population in order to control them.
    Ms. Mercer’s article is a prime example of the dumbing down if its readers.
    Anyone who sees any value in this ramble, get yourself a passport and fly over to Europe and become educated on Social Democracy (for the common good) and REAL freedom, of which Americans have absolutely NO clue.
    Until about 20 years ago the American definition of Socialism and Communism was exactly the same. Ms. Mercer still uses it. Perhaps someone can inform her that the USSR no longer exists.
    To confuse the sheeples by linking liberalism to Libertarianism is deception.

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