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On November 21, after 37 years in power, Zimbabwe’s dictator, Robert Mugabe, resigned in infamy.

By contrast, the late South African leader, Nelson Mandela, was revered in the West. His successor, Thabo Mbeki, was well-respected.

Yet over the decades, both Mandela and Mbeki lent their unqualified support to Mugabe.

When the baton was passed from Mbeki to the populist polygamist Jacob Zuma, the current leader of South Africa’s dominant-party state, little changed in the country’s relationship with Zimbabwe.

Why?

And what is the significance of the support Zuma and his predecessors, Mandela and Mbeki, have lent the Zimbabwean dictator over the decades?

Wags in the West love to pit the long-suffering African people vs. their predatory politicians. As this false bifurcation goes, the malevolent Mugabe was opposed by his eternally suffering people.

While ordinary Africans do seem caught eternally between Scylla and Charybdis, the government of Zimbabwe—and others across Africa—doesn’t stand apart from the governed; it reflects them.

Consider: Early on, Mugabe had attempted to heed “a piece of advice that Mozambican president Samora Machel” had given him well before independence. As historian Martin Meredith recounts, in The State of Africa (2006), Machel told Mugabe: “Keep your whites.”

Mugabe kept “his whites” a little longer than he had originally envisaged, thanks to the Lancaster House agreements. These had “imposed a ten-year constitutional constraint on redistributing land. … But in the early 1990s, with the expiration of the constitutional prohibition, black Zimbabweans became impatient.”

Nevertheless, noted African-American journalist Keith Richburg, “Mugabe remained ambivalent, recognizing, apparently, that despite the popular appeal of land confiscation, the white commercial farmers still constituted the backbone of Zimbabwe’s economy.”

Restless natives would have none of it. Armed with axes and machetes, gangs of so-called war veterans proceeded to fleece white farmers and 400,000 of their employees without so much as flinching. In the land invasions of 2000, 50,000 of these squatters “seized more than 500 of the country’s 4,500 commercial farms, claiming they were taking back land stolen under British colonial rule.” (CNN, April 14, 2000.)

These Zimbabweans assaulted farmers and their families, “threatened to kill them and forced many to flee their homes, ransacking their possessions. They set up armed camps and roadblocks, stole tractors, slaughtered cattle, destroyed crops and polluted water supplies.”

The “occupation” was extended to private hospitals, hundreds of businesses, foreign embassies, and aid agencies. The looting of white property owners continued apace—with the country’s remaining white-owned commercial farms being invaded and occupied.

This may come as news to the doctrinaire democrats who doggedly conflate the will of the people with liberty: These weapons-wielding “mobs of so-called war veterans,” converging on Zimbabwe’s remaining productive farms, expressed the democratic aspirations of most black Zimbabweans. And of their South African neighbors, a majority of whom “want the land, cars, houses, and swimming pools of their erstwhile white rulers.” Surmised The Daily Mail’s Max Hastings:

“[M]ost African leaders find it expedient to hand over the white men’s toys to their own people, without all the bother of explaining that these things should be won through education, skills, enterprise and hard labor over generations.”

At the time, former South African president Mbeki had chaired a special session of the United Nations Security Council, during which he ventured that there was no crisis in Zimbabwe. Some American analysts had therefore hastily deduced that Mbeki, who was president of South Africa from 1999 until 2008, was “a sidekick to the man who ruined Zimbabwe.”

How deeply silly. And how little the West knows!

Mbeki led the most powerful country on the continent; Mugabe the least powerful. The better question is this: Given the power differential between South Africa and Zimbabwe, why would Mbeki, and Mandela before him, succor Mugabe? Was Mandela Mugabe’s marionette, too? Yet another preposterous proposition.

The luminaries of Western café society were not the only ones to have given Mugabe a pass for so long. So did very many blacks.

“When Mugabe slaughtered 20,000 black people in southern Zimbabwe in 1983,” observed South-African columnist Andrew Kenny, “nobody outside Zimbabwe, including the ANC, paid it the slightest attention. Nor did they care when, after 2000, he drove thousands of black farm workers out of their livelihoods and committed countless atrocities against his black population. But when Mugabe killed a dozen white farmers and pushed others off their farms, it caused tremendous excitement.”

“Whenever there is a South African radio phone-in program on Zimbabwe, white South Africans and black Zimbabweans denounce Mugabe, and black South Africans applaud him. Therefore, one theory goes, Mbeki could not afford to criticize Mugabe,” who is revered, never reviled, by South African blacks.

Bar Zimbabweans, blacks across Africa and beyond have a soft spot for Mugabe.

Writing in the Mail & Guardian Online, left-liberal journalist John Pilger further untangled the mystery of Mbeki and Mugabe’s cozy relationship:

“When Robert Mugabe attended the ceremony to mark Thabo Mbeki’s second term as president of South Africa, the black crowd gave Zimbabwe’s dictator a standing ovation.” This is a “symbolic expression of appreciation for an African leader who, many poor blacks think, has given those ‘greedy’ whites a long-delayed and just comeuppance.” (July 7, 2008.)

One need only look at the present in Zimbabwe “to see the future of South Africa,” lamented Kenny. When Mugabe took power in 1980, there were about 300,000 whites in Zimbabwe. Pursuant to the purges conducted by the leader and his people, fewer than 20,000 whites remain. Of these, only 200 are farmers, five percent of the total eight years ago, reported the Daily Telegraph, in 2008.

Although most farmland in South Africa is still owned by whites, the government has signaled its intention to change the landowner’s landscape. “Having so far acquired land on a ‘willing buyer, willing seller’ basis, officials have hinted that large-scale expropriations are on the cards.” (BBC News, February 29, 2008.)

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“In South Africa, the main instrument of transformation is Black Economic Empowerment (BEE). This requires whites to hand over big chunks of the ownership of companies to blacks and to surrender top jobs to them. Almost all the blacks so enriched belong to a small elite connected to the ANC. BEE is already happening to mines, banks and factories. In other words, a … Mugabe-like program is already in progress in South Africa.” (Citation in Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa(2011), p. 150.)

This reality the affable Mandela, the imperious Mbeki and Zuma, their successor, all accepted without piety and pity. These South African strongmen were, in a manner, saluting the Alpha Male Mugabe by implementing a slow-motion version of his program.

Back to the original question: Why have the leaders of the most powerful country on the continent (Mandela, Mbeki and Zuma) succored the leader of the most corrupt (Mugabe)?

Simply this: When he socked it to the whites, Mugabe cemented his status as hero to black activists and their sycophants across South Africa.

Ilana Mercer has been writing a weekly paleolibertarian column since 1999, and is the author of The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016) & Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011). Follow her on Twitter, Facebook & YouTube.

 
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  1. “The color of your skin is your uniform in this ultimate battle for the survival of the West.” – George Lincoln Rockwell

  2. no amount of wailing about the tragic fate of Whites in SA – who, as Ilana indicated in her book, are destined for the Cannibal’s cooking pot – can alter the fact that the Issacsohn-Mercer clan was actively at one with virtually all other SA Jews in replacing the White regime with the current Congoid troop.

    guilt is a terrible thing. Some even say the burden grows heavier with time.

    • Agree: Realist
  3. FKA Max says: • Website

    These South African strongmen were, in a manner, saluting the Alpha Male Mugabe by implementing a slow-motion version of his program.

    The ultimate African Alpha Male:

    For much of the 1970′s, the beefy, sadistic and telegenic despot had reveled in the spotlight of world attention as he flaunted his tyrannical power, hurled outlandish insults at world leaders and staged pompous displays of majesty.

    By contrast, his later years were spent in enforced isolation as the Saudi Arabian authorities made sure he maintained a low profile. Mr. Amin, a convert to Islam, his four wives and more than 30 children fled Uganda just ahead of an invading force of Ugandan exiles and Tanzanian troops that overthrew his government. They went first to Libya, and eventually to Saudi Arabia.

    By the time he had escaped with his life, the devastation he had wreaked lay fully exposed in the scarred ruins of Uganda. The number of people he caused to be killed has been tabulated by exiles and international human rights groups as close to 300,000 out of a total population of 12 million.
    [...]
    He forced white residents of Kampala to carry him on a throne and kneel before him as photographers captured the moment for the world to see.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/17/world/idi-amin-murderous-and-erratic-ruler-of-uganda-in-the-70-s-dies-in-exile.html

    Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/idi-amin/16/

    Revealed: Why Idi Amin expelled Asians from Uganda

    http://www.thelondoneveningpost.com/features/revealed-why-idi-amin-expelled-asians-from-uganda/

    Ugandan Asians dominate economy after exile

    About 50,000 Asians were forced to leave the country in 1972, on the orders of former military ruler Idi Amin, who accused them of “milking Uganda’s money”.

    At the time, they owned 90% of the country’s businesses and accounted for 90% of Ugandan tax revenues.

    Since their return to the country in the 1980s and 1990s, Asians from the Indian subcontinent have once again become a pillar of the country’s economy.
    [...]
    But as Chris Musiime, a local campaigner told me, many Ugandans are more worried about the Chinese, who are heavily involved in infrastructure projects. than South Asians.

    “Some Ugandans complain that the Chinese bring in their own workforce rather than employ and train locals,” he tells the BBC.

    Others, who have worked for the Chinese in an unskilled capacity, speak of poor treatment and communication difficulties.

    “They complain that some Chinese treat Africans much worse than the Indians ever did in the 1960s and 1970s.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36132151

    Did China Back Zimbabwe Coup? | China Uncensored

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @denk
  4. I don’t care if black Africans kick out all whites.

    What’s crazy is the West invites these bongo lunatics and celebrates ACOWW as the greatest thing.

    West used to be imperialist and colonized other people and lands.

    Then, other peoples rebelled and repelled white imperialists and colonizers.

    Whites apologized and admitted their wrong. They came to see imperialism and colonization as wrongs.

    But now, the West is inviting demographic imperialism and colonization of white lands by non-whites. West is saying IT IS A GREAT THING!!! Why? I thought the consensus after WWII was that imperialism and colonization are BAD things.

    Anyway, if the West invites colonization and demographic imperialism as a GOOD thing, what does that imply? That Western imperialism and colonization of the non-white world had actually been a good thing? Therefore, ALL nations should take inspiration from the West that now welcomes colonization and replacist demographic imperialism?

    That is the new template?

    The logic goes full circle.

    1. Western imperialism and colonization of non-white lands is good. Whites should colonize non-white lands.
    2. Western imperialism and colonization of non-white lands is bad. Whites should return to their own nations.
    3. Non-white colonization of white land is good, and whites should welcome it, and non-whites should demand more right to invade Europe. West should invite invasion.
    4. Since ‘western values’ are best, and since they are about inviting invasion, then ALL THE WORLD should follow suit and invite invasion.
    5. If invading and colonizing other nations is good, then the Western Imperialists had done nothing wrong. After all, they had only forced non-whites to invite invasion. Nothing is as wonderful as inviting invasion.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Wade
  5. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Both Mugabe and Mandela received the blessings of education through the efforts of white missionaries. The Marxism that influenced both was not an African product. They learned enough from the whites to become ambitious for themselves and seize power. Of course, that was all they cared about. Under them everything began to slide downhill. Their education and whatever was built up within their countries were handed to them by whites.

  6. history is written by the victors. de klerk’s interview on charlie rose addresses the many lies about apartheid. de klerk also explains that apartheid failed for one reason, capitalist greed. since 1994 20% of whites have left ZA. of those who remain, 25% would leave if they could. the poverty rate among whites has gone from close to 0% to 15%. zuma is an embarrassment.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bd_1184765135

    • Replies: @Malla
  7. As far as I know any black country that expelled the others, white, Indian, was worse off.
    S Africa is on the way down.
    Already years ago in a tv report someone from a N African country said ‘under colonialism we had a better life’.
    Malawi is one of the poorest countries in the world, the government has thirteen ministers.
    Maybe some ten years ago, the purchase of 39 expensive Mercedeses was prevented, one for each minister, one for his wife, and one in case one of the two had a break down.
    Children with toys.
    Something similar far more expensive one sees in S Africa, the country does not need sociologists, politicologists, etc., who expect a well paid civil service job with a good pension at 55.
    The government tried to stem the production of these improductive people by no longer providing free university education.
    Riots, the production of the improductives goes on.

  8. It’s no secret that global diversity only goes one way.

  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Mugabe helped redistribute the land to the landless and give them a share of the wealth in tobacco exports. Why don’t you talk about how uncompromising the white landowners were for 20 years under Mugabe before he completely lost patience with them?

    • Replies: @Lemmings Folly
    , @Malla
    , @Rixon
  10. @Anonymous

    He helped “redistribute” the land, meaning farmland being farmed by modern, industrial methods, to people who could not properly farm it. Now the country can’t even feed itself. How did that help the people of Zimbabwe? Obviously, it didn’t. It was nothing but a political expediency and a petty reaction to envy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. Z-man says:

    Race wars are coming unless the White/European civilizations completely surrender to the Jew run hordes. To avoid these costly race wars these are the things we have to do which also avoids surrender to Da Joo ;
    1st thing to do is to eliminate the Jew owned media and go after the moneylenders. Then to force Israel to evolve into Palestine. Repatriate many, many Muslims in Europe back to wherever they came from. *Then quarantine black Africa while we still have the resolve/firepower!! Send the negro loving Kardashians to Angola, have Alan Derchowitz drawn and quartered and have Charles Krauthammer thrown off Niagara Falls in his iron lung/wheel chair!
    One can dream no? LOL!!!
    *I was going to say recolonize Africa but who needs it! Leave it to the Chinks!! LOL!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @Rod1963
  12. This book was published 10 years after the end of apartheid. It’s highly politically incorrect of course. You can read it online or get it at your usual sellers.

    http://greatsalandscandal.blogspot.ie/

    It would be interesting to see an updated edition.

  13. wayfarer says:
    @Z-man

    Multi-Cultural Technology Transfer Opportunities

    African Aqueduct

    Bangladeshi Aqueduct

    Filipino Aqueduct

    Chinese Aqueduct

    Californian Aqueduct

    • LOL: Z-man, Vinteuil
  14. No doubt true but isn’t Ms Mercer stating the obvious? Sub-Saharan Africa is the black man’s country in the very same way that Europe is the white man’s country, so naturally, black people want to control Africa in the same way as we Europeans want to control Europe.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  15. Malla says:
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)

    Much more worse than that, the Afrikaner parties which were formed to protect the country of South Africa from the globalist takeover via the Marxist black leaders was itself infiltrated by Freemasons and globalists/commies a long time ago. Watch this brilliant video and investigation about what happened behind the scenes. Check out the part where that backstabbing scum named his farm after Babylon!! Also how the black president of the independent short lived black nation complains how the commies were dictating the White president of South Africa. The country’s elites had rotted up much before Mandela, the British MI6 commie agent came to power.

    The Afrikaners foolishly followed their mainstream parties to their own destruction and to the destruction of South Africa as a nation.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  16. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    LOL, naive man, Mugabe gave the land to his Shona cronies. He fucked up the other black tribes before he turned on the Whites. Stop listening to the globalist elite funded leftist media propaganda and university professors, take your head out of the globalist asses.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gukurahundi

    Operation Gukurahundi
    The Gukurahundi was a series of massacres of Ndebele civilians carried out by the Zimbabwe National Army from early 1983 to late 1984. It derives from a Shona language term which loosely translates to “the early rain which washes away the chaff before the spring rains”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. Rixon says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually, the richest and most productive farms went to Mugabe’s cronies, not to the “landless”.

    “Why don’t you talk about how uncompromising the white landowners were for 20 years …”

    Well, given that those white farmers carved their farms out of virgin bush, and Mugabe demanded that they be handed over with little in the way of compensation, the farmers “uncompromising” attitudes are understandable.

    All the more so now that they’ve been handed over the farms are all falling into ruin. Under white rule what was then Rhodesia was considered Africa’s bread-basket. Today, with the white farmers driven off their land Zimbabwe is forced to rely on international handouts to subsist. While in stark contrast the country’s black rulers live in luxury.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Eagle Eye
  18. Malla says:

    And as far as Rhodesia is concerned, this book is a must read

    https://archive.org/details/TheBattleForRhodesia

    Douglas Reed clearly showed how Globalist controlled Britain (especially the Labour party) played a major part in destroying Rhodesia. Most of the black tribal elders supported Rhodesian Prime Minister Smith and distrusted the commie supporting British, indeed, they understood the game commie supporting British government was playing much before many naive Rhodesian Whites did. Without Globalist controlled British support for the commie Mugabe, Mugabe would have lived his old age hiding in the bush like a fugitive and Rhodesia would have remained Rhodesia.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  19. Malla says:
    @Priss Factor

    All those anti colonization freedom struggles were supported by the globalist elements of the Western governments themselves. The anti colonial leaders got their anti colonial ideas while studying in London and Paris and Amsterdam itself, there was no need to go to Moscow or Beijing or Pyongyang. The colonial empires had to be sacrificed to make way for regional blocks like the E.U., A.S.E.A.N, African Union etc…. to eventually make way for a globalist elite ruled One World Government.

    Kwame Nkrumah came from London (freaking London!!!!) before he started rabble rousing the population of the British colony of Gold Coast for independence. Freaking London!!! Not Moscow or Independent Liberia. Edwin Montagu, the secretary of State of British India in 1919 already wrote in the Montagu Clemsford Reforms that the Colonial government will encourage Indian nationalist parties and their political activities. 95% of the Indian population were happy with British rule at that time, it was a time of peace, no more Muslim and Hindu armies fighting each other, ravaging the land. Also the British ruler-ship was incorruptible (with Indians in power, that was totally impossible).

    Why would the Secretary of State of British India actually encourage local Indian nationalist parties?? The whole decolonization thing was planned, planned in London, Paris and Washington.

  20. @Malla

    Using German to guess at the Afrikaans words, the second from the left reads “Believe in God, believe in your people, believe in yourself.” Nothing hateful there.

    Amen to that.

    • Replies: @The King is a Fink
  21. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Haxo Angmark

    I do not know about the personal guilt of Ms. Mercer or her family. But it is an unquestioned fact of history that the demise of South Africa and countries such as Rhodesia came about in no small measure due to Jewish efforts.

    My question: Were those efforts pursued primarily as a delusional but still virtuous attempt to make equal the unequal?

    Or were those activities motivated primarily by hatred for the goyim?

    Regardless, Jewish interference has caused the destruction of formerly stable white run countries and turned them into garden variety African hell holes.

    This should be a cautionary tale for what is now happening to Europe and America. Beware of Jewish liberals telling you about the unmitigated benefits of massive immigration to the West from the Third World. Whatever their motivations may be, be it pure liberal stupidity or an animus to the goyim, these encouragements are nothing more than siren calls that will destroy Western Civilization.

  22. MJMD says:

    Mbeki led the most powerful country on the continent; Mugabe the least powerful. The better question is this: Given the power differential between South Africa and Zimbabwe, why would Mbeki, and Mandela before him, succor Mugabe?

    Um, I don’t know. Why does Xi Jinping put up with Kim Jong Un? Could it be that:

    1) power differential or no, actually attempting to “fix” the problem is likely impossible, short of a politically toxic military intervention that would devastate the larger country’s economy?

    2) a sizable political constituency in the larger country, which the leader of the larger country (however powerful he may be) cannot afford to alienate, sees in the smaller country’s policies a “purer” version of their own official national ideology?

    3) toxic or no, having an ideologically “friendly” country next door is
    kind-of, sort-of
    in your own country’s interests, or at least preferable to any available alternative?

    Or 4) all of the above?

    But that doesn’t mean South Africa is about to turn into Zimbabwe any more than China is set to turn into North Korea anytime soon. Sure, it’s possible, but I think it a bit more unlikely now that the verdict is finally in on what exactly redistribution did for the black people of Zimbabwe (answer: made everything worse).

    • Replies: @Malla
  23. Jeff77450 says:

    I feel so sorry for the whites of Zimbabwe and SA. I really do. In America we can’t get blacks with an average IQ of 85 to understand why affirmative action, dependency on handouts and having children out-of-wedlock is bad for them and why education, impulse-control, deferred gratification and speaking Standard American English is good for them. Now imagine trying to get a group with an average IQ of ~70 to understand such concepts.

  24. Truth says:

    All US Presidents support the Prime Minsister of Israel regardless of what he does in the Gaza strip, and support the Prime Minister of China regardless of what he does to the Wiggers; so what?

    Politics makes strange bedfellows, this is not new, please try harder, babe.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  25. Vinteuil says:
    @Truth

    Are you, in fact, The Z Blog guy?

    If so, you let it rip in the comments here in a way you don’t on your pod-casts.

    • Replies: @Truth
  26. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Could have saved a whole bunch of words and just said they are all black. And the epidemic of the obama-babies rages on especially military people. People sure do love those obama-kids. What can whites say when all their chill’n be black,
    Poor military, they have to fight them over there and love them here, then go back try to fight them again while building them an army.It all makes such perfect sense to me now, except I can’t understand why they never brought over the German army.

  27. Truth says:
    @Vinteuil

    Nope, but please post a link so I can listen.

  28. Malla says:
    @MJMD

    But that doesn’t mean South Africa is about to turn into Zimbabwe any more than China is set to turn into North Korea anytime soon. Sure, it’s possible, but I think it a bit more unlikely now that the verdict is finally in on what exactly redistribution did for the black people of Zimbabwe (answer: made everything worse).

    The problem is that, the same could have been said during the early days of mugabe’s rule, blacks in Zimbabwe would learn lessons from what happened in the Congo, and nearly all of Africa after black rule. Yet the blacks attacked the Whites. This is because, racial jealousy and hatred and the desire to loot overrides commonsense and lessons learnt. The Portuguese in Angola were very friendly with the blacks but the blacks attacked them just the same and most of them left for Portugal after Angola left the Portuguese Empire. So all those who say that the South Africans should have been more friendlier with the blacks and not have had Apartheid should study the Angola example. Did not work, does not work.
    Secondly, these political groups like the ANC and ZANU have the sanction of globalist elites as well as China (assuming both of them are mutually exclusive). Many blacks may disapprove of it, so what? These black parties will do it none the same. Also, the black leadership can distribute the appropriated lands to their cronies and keep power (after keeping the prime cuts for self and family). So what if the economy screws up, the black elites will not feel the pain, the common black on the street will suffer.

    Secondly there are other factors such as the Indians.
    During apartheid, some Indians were cool with it. Indians were quite well off under apartheid, our mercantile skills sis not affect our prosperity. Under apartheid, there was stability, first world infrastructure and also safety, as the Apartheid regime remarkably kept crime under control.
    But there was the other type of Indians, those who are full of knee jerk hatred for Whites based mostly on jealousy, wanted to make mischief, looked at Whites as economic competitors and also because they are more comfortable in a corrupt country where a little bakshish can give you an advantage over others. Apartheid South Africa was hell for these Indians and this second lot played a big part in the destruction of the Apartheid regime. But of course karma has come back to bite and now Indians are facing a lot of hatred and violence from jealous blacks. Indians are physically the weakest of the three races and have a lot of money. Easy prey for blacks. However this is true for the middle class/ upper middle class Indians.
    But the elite Indians have security and they look at Whites as a big deterrent in taking over the country. For example take the Guptas who have become an oligarchic ‘behind the scenes’ rulers of South Africa thanks to their close relationship with President Zuma. They nearly took over the South African State and have become the shadow rulers of South Africa. Reminds me of the Indian Vaswani family who own 40% of Nigeria’s economy (one of the largest economy in Africa)

    I know about the Guptas because they are very close to Indian Hindu Godman and entrepreneur Baba Ramdev. Baba Ramdev himself a shady character runs one of the largest cosmetics and foods company in India rivalling the big multinational giant, a man who underpays his workers and has many political connections in political parties. He even owns a island in Scotland. Guptas of South Africa are close to him and donate millions of dollars worth of South African money to him.

    The video is in Hindi but you can see the infamous South African Indian family on stage with this Godman. The Godman is gloating how a poor Indian can go to an African country and become one of the richest people there. Indian genius.

    The above Hindi channel gloats how an Indian family goes to Africa and took all of Africa by Storm (more gloating about Indian talent which will take over the world crap, very common here in India). “Gupta ji ne Africa ka hila diya” translated to the “Guptas took Africa by storm”. Some Indians look at the family as role models.

    The Guptas hate Whites, if Whites go away, there would be less competition in their economic rule over the low IQ black savages (they will not say this in front of blacks but will say so among themselves, I am Indian, I know).

    They hired a British PR firm, Bell Pottinger to rile up black hatred and riot against the Whites. They were trying to deflect attention from their own capture of the South African state on so called ‘White monopoly capital’.They were even encouraging blacks for civil war on Whites. Imagine that, an Indian family comes to South Africa after the fall of apartheid became super rich and nearly became a state inside the state and then hiring a British PR firm to rile up blacks to attack Whites. A family like the Guptas would have no chance to take over the Apartheid regime of the past.

    hahaha stupid blacks being manipulated by Indians to attack Whites. Nice.

    But now since the whole scam has come out in the open, the black leader Malema has given a warning to the Guptas to leave South Africa (yeah as if that is ever gonna happen).

    Says we will not sell South Africa to the Guptas over a plate of curry. If a White guy in Britain or the USA would have used the language (plate of curry), Malema just used, he would be in serious problem.

    More on the Guptas

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @gT
  29. “Yet over the decades, both Mandela and Mbeki lent their unqualified support to Mugabe”

    Ilana, this hardly surprising. In high school all the Africans always stayed together. Always.
    White people have got to stay together if we are to survive.

    BTW you do know about the African population explosion?

  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rixon

    The British conquered and took the land from the natives.

    Mugabe won the war and held talks for 20 years with the white landowners before giving up and just taking the land.

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Obviously those tribal leaders didn’t represent the black people of Rhodesia or else Mugabe would have lost. Instead Mugabe had a lot of backing or at least most blacks were neutral and certainly not going to fight for white rule.

    It wasn’t about black commies v. white capitalism. It was simply that Rhodesia’s wealth came from mining, which produces revenue for the state in the form of royalties. The whites wanted to live the good life and not have to pay any taxes so they decided to take most of that pot of gold in royalties for themselves. The blacks didn’t like that and wanted more because after all mining wealth belongs to all of the people living in a country.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Wally
    , @Art Deco
  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Why shouldn’t the farms go to the Shona? They are 70% of the country.

    “cronies”

    The land was distributed to 90,000 households. Almost all of it went to the landless masses. At most he gave 5 nice farms to his cousin and another 5 to his police commissioner and a few here and there to security establishment leaders. LOL at you for pretending to know anything about this topic.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Malla
  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lemmings Folly

    A lot of the land was unused because the lazy owners wanted to be “conservationists”. The truth is they were just too lazy to farm on a grand scale or go find the capital needed to do it. You are just making stuff up when you refer to the farms as “modern, industrial”.

  34. anon • Disclaimer says:

    What the whites in South Africa should have done is partition the country, creating a small (but homogeneous) state for themselves, preferably based on the sea coast. All the rest of the country should have been ceded to blacks to do with as they wanted too.

    • Replies: @Malla
  35. Truth says:
    @Malla

    The Portuguese in Angola were very friendly with the blacks

    Princes on earth.

    http://www.portugaldailyview.com/whats-new/colonial-war-the-wounds-of-the-portuguese-vietnam-in-africa

    • Replies: @Malla
  36. Okechukwu says:
    @Anonymous

    Indeed. You are dealing with deadenders who will resort to lying and disinformation in order to discredit the revolution that vanquished their brutal and murderous Apartheid entity called Rhodesia. Just the name of the country alone was a slap in the face of every black person there. The sad thing is that delusional “rhodies” and their sympathizers actually want whites killed and genocided because that narrative dovetails nicely with their race war motif — a race war which they hope and dream will one day restore Rhodesia (LOL!). They’ll even go as far as to fabricate persecution and genocides that never actually happened.

    It can reasonably be argued that there is white privilege in Zimbabwe. That there remains white privilege in South Africa is a foregone conclusion. But most people don’t realize that whites are living it up in Zimbabwe. For example, there are less than 30,000 whites in the whole country out of a total population of 16 million. But you’ll notice something very strange in the below video starting at about 2:20:

    Most of the people patronizing the posh shopping and dining areas of Harare are white.

    Whites are also wildly and dramatically over-represented in Zimbabwe’s best private schools, as depicted in the video below.

    So if this is genocide, I’d like some of it please. The fact that recalcitrant white supremacists chose to pack up and leave rather than live under a black government does not constitute a genocide.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Wally
  37. @RadicalCenter

    On the nail. Followed by “the struggle goes on” and “create your own future”. The text on the right is the old South African national anthem, which still makes me get goosebumps every time I hear it. Nkosi Sikelel can kiss my white arse.

  38. neutral says:
    @Okechukwu

    The only deadender is you, still refusing to admit the truth that black run states are failures without exception. I can tell you one thing, if there were 16 million whites and 30,000 blacks, the country would be infinitely more well off than it is now.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  39. Okechukwu says:
    @neutral

    You still don’t get it.The two videos I posted represent a society far superior to anything Rhodesia was able to achieve. So it appears that the blacks were indeed able to create a better society where the whites failed miserably.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Wally
  40. denise says:

    Communist whites aka jews/russians would set those pictures up. Considering they were behind the whole revolution.

    In the US figures like Jackson, Sharpton and the vaulted Martin L. King were pretending to be Reverends or Farrakhan a muslim, but they all worked together. Their belief is as fake as they are/were.
    It was a joke that African black slaves knew anything about Christ, yet were Christ. The black Jesus, or that Jesus was black. The whole idea that people came from a single woman in Africa and on and on it goes. One life, one lie after another. Some things can’t be proven, like implanting semen without dna testing. Why it’s a Miracle.
    It’s unfortunate that people cannot accept a white person as the king or queen of their own people or no people at all. This is a new day and the Jews with their Talmud, or libertarianism itself can’t stand for a knowing person who loves their own, who wants their own life with the one they loved from the beginning of time, tall blond and beautiful.

  41. @Haxo Angmark

    Here’s another clan member who is causing problems. (((Stefan Molyneux))) – his mother was a German Jewess who fled Germany when Hitler took power – is groid/gloid lover. Here is a youtube about his passion for Venezuela.

    The first minute and the 6 minute mark are where he really goes full groid/gloid lover. Venezuela has an average IQ of 84. There is nothing that can be done for this country. Most of Venezuela’s whites have left. I met 2 white Venezuelan doctors where I live who were studying for our state board exams so they could practice medicine in the USA. They told me they were never going back to Venezuela.

    The late Hugo Chavez was a zambo – half black/Indian mix. Here is what the white super rich do in Venezuela.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640941/Super-rich-quaff-champagne-Venezuela-country-club-middle-classes-scavenge-food-rubbish-dumps-DOGS-starving.html

    Venezuela is about 80% nonwhite. The country is gone.

    • Replies: @Malla
  42. Malla says:
    @Truth

    You are an idiot or what?
    What I meant was the Portuguese, socially mixed with the blacks in Angola to a much greater extent.
    That article shows a wartime situation and such atrocities are done by black governments too.

  43. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Such an awesome society that a major chunk of those Zimbabweans prefer to live in South Africa rather than in Mugabe paradise. Anyways, if Zimbabweans build a great society, good for them. However the fact remains that Mugabe was brought into power primarily by the globalist forces in Britain and the USA.

  44. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    “It wasn’t about black commies v. white capitalism. ”

    No, it was about globalist supported black communist leaders vs all Rhodesians/Zimbabweans.

    For example check out President Lucas Mangope, President of Bophuthatswana at 25:07

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=47&v=9XG3FcP_NG0

    “Mugabe won the war and held talks for 20 years with the white landowners before giving up and just taking the land”

    LOL Mugabe did not win anything. Rhodesia folded due to international pressure, primarily from the USA and Britain also because under international pressure, South Africa folded.

  45. Malla says:

    Great video

    Check out 3:38 to 4:12 minutes where a coloured (Mulatoes) South African says that life was better under White regime. Also racism they face from the black ANC government today.

    From 4:12 to 4:50 minutes also check out that coloured South African saying clearly how blacks were never in cape town before and now they face discrimination by pure blacks. A new Apartheid between blacks and coloured now.

    From 12:47 to 13:50 minutes the coloured shopkeeper complains about discrimination in jobs against the Cape Coloured in favour of blacks.

  46. Just, look at the example of Haiti ?? Over 200 years of Black Rule & still blaming the white man ….

  47. Malla says:
    @anon

    That is what the White Afrikaners have always wanted. But the globalists would never allow that. Even black tribes who want out of the union are not allowed to do so. Botswana and Swaziland escaped out earlier.

    • Replies: @Malla
  48. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Mugabe’s paradise LOL

    https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2015/01/13/mugabe-has-ruined-the-jewel-of-africa

    EDITOR — The deplorable state of the roads in Zimbabwe characterised by numerous potholes, some too big that they have become craters, accurately reflects the 34 years of the nonagerian President Robert Mugabe’s misrule.

    It is a truism that most of the tarred roads where constructed during the Ian Smith regime era, that is before independence.

    What is now embarrassing to us blacks is that the persons who freed us from the colonial shackles of an oppressive and racist white regime have not only failed to improve the lot of the majority of the black people but actually have worsened their plight.

    Mugabe’s regime has among other things failed to at least maintain the infrastructure that was put in place by the Smith regime, look at the dilapidated state of our road and railway systems not to mention what has happened to our national airline Air Zimbabwe.

    And as the president reaches the twilight of his political career, would he want to leave a legacy as the man who destroyed what was once the Jewel of Africa?

    Sure, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  49. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    This Zimbabwean war veteran woman agrees with you 100%. LOL

    Check the comment by a black guy below the video

    St. Thelonious the Monk writes

    “Contrary to popular belief, the nation formerly known as Rhodesia never had apartheid laws. Yes there was massive discrimination but Rhodesia never had institutionalized racism the was South Africa did. A seat on a bus or an airplane was for anyone. So was a park bench. Many of the top hotels & restaurants were desegregated and it was common to see blacks frequenting them. Half the student body at nation’s universities were reserved for black students (all of whom attended on scholarship) and most of the civil service was made up of blacks. Now I’m not trying to idealize what life was like for the blacks in Rhodesia; blacks earned much lower wages than whites. black living standards were also much lower and poverty among blacks was much higher. But I do not think anyone will deny that no matter how bad things were for blacks in Rhodesia, they are much worse now.”

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  50. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Sorry I meant Lesotho not Botswana in my earlier comment.

  51. Alfred says:
    @Michael Kenny

    The black tribes that currently control South Africa via the ANC were not there when the Dutch first settled in that area. Learn a little history.

    “List of massacres in South Africa”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_South_Africa

    BTW, this list starts in 1818. The Dutch started settling there 150 years earlier.

    As late as 1900, there were more whites than blacks in most of South Africa.

  52. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    said:
    ” …after all mining wealth belongs to all of the people living in a country.”

    Says who?

    You?

  53. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Stop making a fool of yourself. There are videos that express every opinion under the sun. I can post videos or articles by white former Rhodesians saying that indeed Rhodesia was a vicious Apartheid state. Rhodesia had all the trappings of Apartheid, some of it codified, some simply practiced without codification.

    It’s all a moot point. Rhodesia is dead and buried. Your revisionist history and denial of reality won’t resurrect it. Whether or not you believe Rhodesia was benevolent toward blacks is irrelevant. What mattered was how the blacks felt and they were not going to subject themselves indefinitely to white supremacy on their own land. So they fought and ended that system. Case closed. By the way, they had been fighting with varying degrees of intensity for 100 years. The first Chimurenga predates the the Bolshevik revolution. So the suggestion that the armed struggle was a communist conspiracy is absurd.

    Watch the videos I posted. The milieu depicted in those videos would be impossible in Rhodesia. There would be no black kids at those private schools and no black patrons at that restaurant. Who pilots Zimbabwean airliners and operates their air traffic control? Black people. All of these things and more would be impossible in Rhodesia. This is why Zimbabwe is a much better place than Rhodesia was.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  54. Wally says:
    @Okechukwu

    The facts are that in practically every instance where blacks are in great numbers, control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we ALWAYS see:

    massive murder rates
    massive crime in general
    degraded property
    massive disease, especially STDs
    massive drug abuse
    general filth, squalor
    massive, unable to support their own children, birthrates
    massive youth pregnancies rates
    massive school dropout rates
    incredibly low IQs & test scores
    violence as a way of life
    fathers nowhere to be found

    • Replies: @Malla
  55. Wally says:
    @Okechukwu

    I get it. Staged videos are proof. You must love N. Korea.

    Fake African Okechukwu, you laughably said:
    “So it appears that the blacks were indeed able to create a better society where the whites failed miserably.”

    Yep, that’s why they’re flooding into white Europe & the US.

    Africa is a sewer created by Africans.

  56. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    “Stop making a fool of yourself. ”
    LOL, you are the idiot running around on Unz.com making yourself a fool, total clown. I am stating harsh facts.

    “Rhodesia is dead and buried. Your revisionist history and denial of reality won’t resurrect it.”
    I have no interest in resurrecting it. I am more interested in connecting the dots between events in the last century and beyond to study how the globalist elites work and where they are taking the world. The biggest losers of the loss of Rhodesia will be the average black Zimbabwean. White Rhodesians can create a first world anywhere on Earth, they have the IQ and other qualities given to them by nature.

    “So they fought and ended that system.”
    They ended nothing and it was beyond their capacity to end Rhodesia, LOL, Rhodesia was crushed by Globalists using black marxist leaders to do their dirty work.

    “Watch the videos I posted.”
    Anybody watching what I posted, they will have no option but to agree that I am right.

    “The first Chimurenga predates the the Bolshevik revolution”
    Of course blacks can commit war on Whites without any globalist encouragement. When the Zulus fought the Boers, no globalist elite was involved with the Zulus. This elite I am talking about predates Bolshevism, you are a low IQ idiot so you will not understand. This is from before the French revolution.
    But the collapse of South Africa and Rhodesia happened because the globalist elites wanted it that way. Capice.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  57. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Genocide of rival black tribes by Mugabe.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  58. Malla says:
    @Wally

    I must add that some of the social pathologies in the black American society does not exist in Africa, at least not much among the educated middle classes. I know that blacks have genetic tendencies towards the pathologies you have listed but the middle class in Africa tend to be quite conservative with decent family values. American blacks are subject to extreme MK Ultra, Travistock institute mind control programming (so are Whites, Asians, Hispanics, native Americans) via the media which has led to extreme social deterioration. And these mind control programs are funded and run by the SAME elites who supported the Bolsheviks or destroyed Rhodesia/ Apartheid South Africa. Blacks may be used as weapons against Whites but the elites have no love for them. Welfare too has been used to further the social degradation. The same elites run the big drugs businesses around the world. During the Vietnam war, these globalist elites pushed drugs on the general American population and especially the ghettos. You must realize that many of these globalist elites have descended from those scum families like the Sassoons who pushed opium on the Chinese more than a century ago.
    The long term aim of the elites is to bring everybody in the U.S.A down to the level of the ghetto blacks both economically and socially.

  59. Malla says:

    Check this out

    Black man says: Bring back Apartheid
    A black South African says bring back the apartheid regime, there were more jobs then. Check out the surprised BBC communist journalist scum’s response. He has had the shock of his life. He tries to instruct the black guy what he should believe, that the ANC is good.

  60. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    From https://zimbabwe-today.com/mugabe-destroyed-zimbabwe-inheriting-prosperous-country-rhodesia/

    [MORE]

    “When the country changed from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, we were very excited,” one man, Kizita, told me in a village of mud-walled huts near this town in western Zimbabwe. “But we didn’t realize the ones we chased away were better and the ones we put in power would oppress us.”

    “It would have been better if whites had continued to rule because the money would have continued to come,” added a neighbor, a 58-year-old farmer named Isaac. “It was better under Rhodesia. Then we could get jobs. Things were cheaper in stores. Now we have no money, no food.”

    Over and over, I cringed as I heard Africans wax nostalgic about a nasty, oppressive regime run by a tiny white elite. Black Zimbabweans responded that at least that regime was more competent than today’s nasty, oppressive regime run by the tiny black elite that surrounds Mr. Mugabe.

    A Times colleague, Barry Bearak, was jailed here in 2008 for reporting, so I used a fresh passport to enter the country as a tourist. Partly for my own safety, I avoided interviewing people with ties to the government, so I can’t be sure that my glimpse of the public mood was representative.

    People I talked to were terrified for their personal safety if quoted — much more scared than in the past. That’s why I’m being vague about locations and agreed to omit full names.

    But what is clear is that Zimbabwe has come very far downhill over the last few decades (although it has risen a bit since its trough two years ago). An impressive health and education system is in tatters, and life expectancy has tumbled from about 60 years in 1990 to somewhere between 36 and 44, depending on which statistics you believe.

    Western countries have made the mistake of focusing their denunciations on the seizures of white farms by Mr. Mugabe’s cronies. That’s tribalism by whites; by far the greatest suffering has been endured by Zimbabwe’s blacks.

    In Kizita’s village, for example, I met a 29-year-old woman, seven months pregnant, who had malaria. She and her husband had walked more than four miles to the nearest clinic, where she tested positive for malaria. But the clinic refused to give her some life-saving antimalaria medicine unless she paid $2 — and she had no money at all in her house. So, dizzy and feverish, she stumbled home for another four miles, empty-handed.

  61. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    LOL, you are the idiot running around on Unz.com making yourself a fool, total clown. I am stating harsh facts.

    No, you’re the clown thinking that posting one alleged video of one alleged black person who allegedly pines for Rhodesia somehow constitutes an argument. If you’re an example of “white IQ” that’s proof positive that IQ doesn’t actually measure natural smarts.

    I have no interest in resurrecting it. I am more interested in connecting the dots between events in the last century and beyond to study how the globalist elites work and where they are taking the world

    This is conspiracist bullshit. The white racist scumbags were defeated in battle and made to flee with their tails between their legs.

    The biggest losers of the loss of Rhodesia will be the average black Zimbabwean.

    Then how come blacks don’t want Rhodesia back, you’re selective, anecdotal, unsourced and unverified video notwithstanding. Blacks are perfectly happy with their situation in Zim, particularly as relates to vanquishing white supremacism and not being treated as third class citizens in their own country. There are plenty of stupid and useless whites, some of whom can be found on these boards. You think a black person like me is going to want to be dictated to by an inferior white person whose only accomplishment is white skin? This is the crux of the matter. Whites who ordinarily would be scrubbing toilets in Britain were able to go to Zimbabwe and live like lords at the expense of blacks. That situation was untenable.

    White Rhodesians can create a first world anywhere on Earth, they have the IQ and other qualities given to them by nature.

    Yet they’re all over the Internet crying like little girls over their little white supremacist project going defunct.

    They ended nothing and it was beyond their capacity to end Rhodesia, LOL, Rhodesia was crushed by Globalists using black marxist leaders to do their dirty work.

    They sure as hell did end Rhodesia. No amount of talking or Jews or protests or sanctions or communism or “globalist elites” was ever going to end Rhodesia. Rhodesia was ended by force, on the battlefield. They were losing the war. Whites were fleeing because they knew Rhodesia was losing. The racist regime was actually saved through the intervention of South Africa, the US and the UK from being comprehensively defeated and being rounded up and shot as war criminals.

    But the collapse of South Africa and Rhodesia happened because the globalist elites wanted it that way. Capice.

    Yeah, sure thing bud. Keep reciting your globalist elite mantra.

  62. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Genocide of rival black tribes by Mugabe.

    That’s very cute in light of the fact that whites have genocided rival white tribes in the millions for thousands of years. Whites have killed each other wholesale, with 100 million killed in the 20th century alone.

    • Replies: @Malla
  63. Malla says:

    If you’re an example of “white IQ” that’s proof positive that IQ doesn’t actually measure natural smarts.

    Yes IQ does measure natural smarts. You do not like this fact and bray around it like a little girl all across the internet.

    This is conspiracist bullshit.

    No it is true.

    The white racist scumbags were defeated in battle and made to flee with their tails between their legs.

    Only in your dreams. There is no way, the Rhodesian army made up of Whites and blacks were defeated on the battlefield by a bunch of ragtag terrorists. keep dreaming

    Then how come blacks don’t want Rhodesia back, you’re selective, anecdotal, unsourced and unverified video notwithstanding. Blacks are perfectly happy with their situation in Zim, particularly as relates to vanquishing white supremacism and not being treated as third class citizens in their own country. There are plenty of stupid and useless whites, some of whom can be found on these boards. You think a black person like me is going to want to be dictated to by an inferior white person whose only accomplishment is white skin? This is the crux of the matter. Whites who ordinarily would be scrubbing toilets in Britain were able to go to Zimbabwe and live like lords at the expense of blacks. That situation was untenable.

    The biggest losers of the loss of Rhodesia will be the average black Zimbabwean. Not that it makes any difference to me.

    They sure as hell did end Rhodesia. No amount of talking or Jews or protests or sanctions or communism or “globalist elites” was ever going to end Rhodesia. Rhodesia was ended by force, on the battlefield. They were losing the war. Whites were fleeing because they knew Rhodesia was losing.

    Again, there is no way, the Rhodesian army made up of both Whites and blacks were defeated on the battlefield. You are dreaming up stuff. Top grade crack.

    The racist regime was actually saved through the intervention of South Africa, the US and the UK from being comprehensively defeated and being rounded up and shot as war criminals.

    Oh yeah, the UK and the USA who put sanctions on Rhodesia, helped Rhodesia. LOL

    Yet they’re all over the Internet crying like little girls over their little white supremacist project going defunct.

    I do not see why they should not feel sad about the first world nation they built turned to bushland.

    Yeah, sure thing bud. Keep reciting your globalist elite mantra.

    Well it is true.

  64. I have to agree with the author on this. Having lived in Zim for a longer period I can vouch for the accuracy of her describing the incidents in Zimbabwe. The land expropiation was a massive steal by the Party and Mugabes cronies. All the real good farms were given to the Elites and the mostly useless places were given to the veterans. Hardly any of either had any idea of how to do commercial farming. The whites became the “boat people” and mostly went to NZ, Oz and SA.
    Some ironically went to Mozambique and Tanzania, supported by those governments, in order to beef up commercial farming. They were basically given land for free, as long as they would contribute expertise.
    The rest of the skilled white people just left, police, judges, civil servants, engineers ect, ect, all that had a possibility. Those left were mostly Afrikaaner origen, most not having British passports.
    Many of the then prime farms are today mismanaged into uselessnes, lack of water, skills, soil erosion has left most if not all only capable of sustenance farming and that barely. Trees have been mercilessly cut for cooking and is all but barren.
    The future is just as bleak, the new regime is “the Emporers New Clothes” the colour having a new flavour, and the same elites exploiting as before, maybe opening up for western corporate greed too, Zimbabwes future indeed look bleak.

  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    We need someone to post this kind of reminder after every one of her articles.

    In fact, she should be honest and post it herself.

  66. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    That’s very cute in light of the fact that whites have genocided rival white tribes in the millions for thousands of years. Whites have killed each other wholesale, with 100 million killed in the 20th century alone.

    Yeah, Whites have killed each other, middle Eastern people have killed each other, Indian subcontinentals killed each other (Emperor Ashoka killed thousands of people of Kalinga, which horrified him so much that he became Buddhist), East Asians have killed each other, blacks have killed each other, native Americans have killed each other.
    So what does that have to do with Mugabe killing rival non Shona black tribes? I never said blacks have a monopoly in killing each other in that post, I was showing one of the many dark sides of Mugabe. You are funny as well as stupid.

  67. Malla says:
    @attilathehen

    Destruction of the Middle classes is exactly what the globalists want. In my opinion, Venezuela was a test tube under study by the globalists. Many nations on this planet are nothing but tests tubes where different ideologies are forced and the reaction of the people observed. They want to fine tune the social, economic, religious policy of the future one world slave society. Note how the globalists pushed their cashless society in the chaos in Venezuela.

    Chavez was pally with Castro. Castro was secretly supported by the USA/Globalist, he was always America’s guy. The whole exploding cigars, bay of pigs is just propaganda. The USA pays Cuba about 4 million dollars a year for Guantamo Bay. Would the USA build it’s naval base in it’s enemy territory? And if the USA were to invade Cuba, would they not have used Guantanamo bay as the launch pad for the invasion? Not the bay of pigs joint CIA-Cuba fiasco. And guess what? The USA invades Iraq 1000s of kilometers away but leaves nearby Cuba alone even after the fall of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, with no superpower to protect Cuba. And just when Castro’s movement was growing in strength during the so called ‘revolution’, the US government back stabbed Batista and withdrew their support. Not that I support Batista, he was corrupt pig but what I meant to say was why would the US Government remove their support at that critical moment when Batista needed their support. Yes, you guessed it right, Castro was secretly America’s man all along. And guess what? Castro is very influential in South America all the way even in the giant country of Brazil. Castro looted Venezuelan oil money via Chavez. Just like how Chavez screwed up Venezuela, Lula screwed Brazil. Destroyed the middle class, the most productive class, all of them working for the globalist elites. Lula was close with Castro too. They were a club and Alejandro Toledo of Peru was one more member of the Castro club.

    Brown black nations are inherently unequal. Yeah some White and East Asian nations face this problem too, but brown nations are just inherently unequal in their very nature.

  68. gT says:
    @Malla

    Those Guptas are causing big problems for Indians in South Africa. As it was the Zulu’s were always keen on massacring all the Indians anyway but the British always stopped matters from getting out of hand. Now with the Guptas’ carrying on for themselves so much, if the Zulus’ were to go on the war path tomorrow the ‘authorities’ would have great difficulty in containing matters (most of the police and army would not be too interested in dissuading the Zulus one bit). All the Guptas attempts to stir up Black / White antagonism via the media won’t distract the Zulu’s from their Indian objectives one bit.

    Also Zuma apparently told the Guptas that he doesn’t want the Blacks in South Africa to be educated, because if they become too clever they wouldn’t vote for the ruling ANC party no more, so Zuma would be out of power. So much for looking after his own people, Zuma is only interested in looking after number one, himself.

    Blacks don’t realize that they are also just settlers in South Africa just like the Whites. The various Khoi / Hottentot / San mixed up descendants in the Cape are the true indigenous inhabitants of South Africa. Most coloureds are of Khoi / Hottentot / San mixed descent, few are true Mulatoes of straight Black / White descent.

    The Whites made good progress against the Khoi / Hottentot / San bunch, those were pastoralists or hunter gatherers. But against the Blacks the Whites encountered stiffer resistance, Blacks were agriculturists and well as pastoralists. So instead of just skirmishes against hunter gatherers (like in the US and Australia), there was proper war in South Africa. So if you want to know the reason why Whites succeeded in the US and Australia but not in South Africa, now you know. Hunter gatherers are easy to exterminate, agriculturists and pastoralists not so much. Agriculture and pastoralism supports bigger numbers. But the Black cause was not helped by the Xhosa’s chasing all their cattle into the sea and by Shaka Zulu exterminating most of the Black tribes in the interior. (The Zulus don’t actually like any non Zulus).

    Its great that Bob is finally gone from Zimbabwe, now maybe that country can recover. But it might not be such a good idea to let him retire in peace, too risky. Robben Island is empty and available at present.

    Nothing is actually said about why Mandela and Mbeki and Zuma supported Bob so much, nothing. Rumour has it that Bob knew too much about ANC collaboration with the Apartheid government to risk antagonizing him. Certainly the ANC made huge 180 degree turns with regards to what was laid out in the Freedom Charter regarding land redistribution and nationalization and so on. There is also speculation as to why some political prisoners died in captivity during Apartheid while others seemed to live forever.

    • Replies: @Malla
  69. MBlanc46 says:

    The Big Man is the natural form of government in Sub-Saharan Africa. Mandela, Mbeki, Mugabe, Mugabe’s successor. All the same.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
  70. Truth says:
    @MBlanc46

    The Big Man is the natural form of government in Sub-Saharan Africa

    If you have a Twitter account, apparently it is here too.

  71. Rod1963 says:
    @Z-man

    A race war is indeed inevitable unless we shut down the MSM and Hollywood which has been the primary engine for marginalizing whites in the U.S. and agitating ethnics.

    However the judicial system, state and federal governments have been some of the worst offenders against whites since AA was started. You could write a book on the socially destructive policies they implemented and which ruined entire cities across the U.S.

    Short of dismantling the DOJ and HUD it’s not going to stop. It will take a outside event like a economic collapse to put a end to government social-engineering.

  72. Malla says:
    @gT

    Thanks for all that info. Well yes, the Zulus and Asian Indians have had problems in the Durban area for a long time. The Zulus are a warrior race and the Asian Indians in South Africa a rich cunning mercantile race.

    By removing their White protectors, Africa has become ripe for an Asian take over (Arabs, Chinese, Indians).
    Bob may have gone, but Zimbabwe is and will be in the near future a satellite of China, which may not be a bad thing for a country like Zimbabwe. Better than being a satellite of India, ask the Bhutanese and the Nepalese.
    Also I must add that the Indian Government has become hysterical about the amount of influence China has in Africa right now. But I think the Indian government plan is ‘Let the Chinese go in and make all that infrastructure they are good at making, we will go in later and capture the market sneakily after they have done all the hard work’.
    Also Saudi Arabia and the gulf countries as well as India are buying up agricultural lands all across Africa. It is colonization part 2.

    Certainly the ANC made huge 180 degree turns with regards to what was laid out in the Freedom Charter regarding land redistribution and nationalization and so on. There is also speculation as to why some political prisoners died in captivity during Apartheid while others seemed to live forever.

    Yes it seems the National Party and the ANC were in bed with each other for a long time. It was all more or less scripted. There are many reasons why I believe, most of the anti colonial movements in the third world in the last century, were all more or less scripted.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  73. Malla says:
    @MBlanc46

    That is true. One must read the book ‘A Bend in the River’ by the Nobel Prize winner V.S. Naipaul to understand this ‘big man’ concept.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bend_in_the_River

    There is this mention of ‘big man gives, the big man takes’, ‘pleasing the big man’ through out the novel, the Big man is literally like God. It is basically the old tribal chief concept transplanted into the modern world without many of the interlocking safeguards (council of elders like stuff whose wisdom would have kept the chief in some form of check) of some traditional African societies. Like a strange mix of modern culture including Marxist thought and traditional African tendencies, all mixed up in a wrong way to create a disaster.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
  74. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Yeah, right. China is going to colonize Africa and enslave the Africans. Isn’t that how this inane white supremacist fantasy goes? It’s a weird mixture of ignorance, envy, regret and wishful thinking.

    China doesn’t want to colonize anyone and Africans won’t let themselves be colonized. African governments routinely round up and deport Chinese lawbreakers. That isn’t how colonial subjects behave toward their colonial masters. China walks on eggshells in Africa. They’re very careful to avoid the many mistakes made by European colonizers. China already has the European playbook and all they have to do to be successful is do the exact opposite of everything the Europeans did.

    People are on the move around the world. Yes, there are Chinese business people in Africa. Similarly, there are also African business people in China. Africans are in China doing their thing, marrying local women and setting down roots. That doesn’t mean they’re colonizing China.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Anonymous
    , @Truth
    , @Malla
  75. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    I am Asian Indian you stupid clown. White supremacist fantasy?????? Get over your obsessive White hatred and maybe you will be able to see what is going on more clearly.

    I know how we Indians think, how we talk about other races behind closed doors, a place a black person can never enter. And I know how Asians think in general.

    There are Indian families who run entire African countries behind the scenes. Guptas are nothing new. An unknown Indian family out of a billion going and taking over an entire African country is not new and will never become old.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Okechukwu
  76. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    No it isn’t, and you may have trouble getting back to Unz.

  77. Yee says:

    Africa is important for China because once it can develop a little, it’d be as big a market as China. It doesn’t matter who actually setup shops and factories in Africa, as long as they create jobs for the Africans.

    When the Africans have income, there’d surely be a market for products they don’t make. Chinese products will then complete with Europe, America, India products etc., for the African market. Who’s going to win, do you think?

    Africa is a better market than India because people there isn’t held down by thousands of years of religion teaching to enjoy your hardship. And their elite are just individuals, not yet form a powerful caste to control all aspect of the society.

    It has nothing to do with colonization. I hope the Africans understand this and tell the lying NGOs to f##k off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Okechukwu
  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    You don’t get it. It’s an invisible process and it won’t become visible until much later.

    Step 1. individual families set up businesses
    Step 2. business links are formed only with other Chinese
    Step 3. collective thinking begins and profits are re-invested in buying politicians

    Note that step 1 is innocuous, step 2 is invisible to an outsider, and the Chinese themselves are unaware of the process until they start conspiring in step 3.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Yee

    So you’re expecting useful economic output from Black Africans? Is this precedented?

    • Replies: @Malla
  80. Yee says:

    “So you’re expecting useful economic output from Black Africans? Is this precedented?”

    Why not? Few people in this world can’t learn to do factory work.

    Tanzania has military officers trained by China, and they beat Uganda and Libya army without much trouble. If Africans can organize an army, sure they can organize factories, with proper training.

    “precedented”? If Africans can become devoted Christians and Muslims, why can’t they become workers and farmers? Plenty of hardworking Blacks in the world.

    The risk is political instability. That’s why I hope the Africans understand the picture better, don’t fall into the trap of being manipulated against their own interests.

    China is investing for an export market for the next 40 years, it will benefit all our industries. If Africa catch up in 40 years in technology like China has the West, then we just compete again on equal terms, no big deal.

  81. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    Yeah, right. China is going to colonize Africa and enslave the Africans. Isn’t that how this inane white supremacist fantasy goes? It’s a weird mixture of ignorance, envy, regret and wishful thinking.

    …It’s so ridiculous man, these people and their wet dreams.

    The Chinese can’t even colonize Taiwan. And obviously they want to, or they would have granted it sovereignty years ago.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @Malla
  82. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Get over your obsessive White hatred and maybe you will be able to see what is going on more clearly.

    I know how we Indians think,. And I know how Asians think in general.

    LOL, great then tell me, what do the Chinese say about Indians when none of you are in the room?

    • Replies: @Malla
  83. Bill Jones says: • Website

    The US pays nothing to Cuba for the illegal of occupation of its land. Despite its efforts the checks have never been cashed.

  84. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    I am Asian Indian you stupid clown. White supremacist fantasy??????

    It doesn’t matter what you are or claim to be. Your remarks indicate that you’re a white supremacist. Besides, a self-loathing Indian scumbag like you is by definition a white supremacist. You’re the type Idi Amin threw out, and may the Allah bless his soul for that. You were born too late. You would’ve made a fine sniveling Indian functionary doing the bidding of your British colonial masters — turning in your own people, having them tortured for information in order to win brownie points with your white masters.

    I know how we Indians think, how we talk about other races behind closed doors, a place a black person can never enter. And I know how Asians think in general.

    Oh, good for you. And do you know what other people think of Indians? About their filth, stench and non-existent hygiene? Their worship of rats, cockroaches and other vermin such that Indians moving into an area comes with the danger of vermin infestation?

    Since you love anecdotes, let me share one with you: While in college an Indian moved into my apartment complex. Within a few weeks the place was overrun by cockroaches. Upon further investigation building management discovered that this Indian kept his apartment filthy and disgusting. This attracted the cockroaches which he nurtured and fed deliberately. When they finally entered his apartment, innumerable hordes of cockroaches were climbing the walls in broad daylight. Apparently vermin worship is a core tenet of his religion and killing them is absolutely forbidden.

    There are Indian families who run entire African countries behind the scenes.

    That’s a nice fantasy you got there. Sure, Indians are doing business in Africa. But if they misbehave they’ll get the Amin treatment. My fellow Nigerians find India very conducive to their own ventures. Setting loose savvy, enterprising Africans in India is the equivalent of taking candy from babies. If the best and brightest in India can’t even perform basic telephone customer service, how are they going to fare against smart and shrewd Africans?

    An unknown Indian family out of a billion going and taking over an entire African country is not new and will never become old.

    That’s another cute fantasy. Perhaps these all-powerful Indians should employ their power toward eradicating public defecation in their homeland. You know that people dropping their pants and shitting everywhere and anywhere is a grave health hazard in India, right?

    Why do millions of Indians defecate in the open?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27775327

    Further, Indians are actually poorer per capita than black Africans:

    India far poorer than Africa, new measure shows

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/india-far-poorer-than-africa-new-measure-shows/news-story/8bf326de3c7da4ea1f9472ef80328841

    By the way, why is an Indian like yourself an IQist? If you believe in IQ, then India certainly isn’t a world beater in that regard:

    https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

    You’ll notice that Nigeria has a higher IQ than India. Uganda, that threw you people out, also has a higher IQ than India. Zimbabwe, the subject of this article, has the same IQ as India. So there go your IQ theories.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  85. Okechukwu says:
    @Anonymous

    You don’t get it. It’s an invisible process and it won’t become visible until much later.

    Yeah, it’s so invisible as to be non-existent.

    Step 1. individual families set up businesses

    Africans are doing this in China.

    Step 2. business links are formed only with other Chinese

    Africans are doing this in China.

    Step 3. collective thinking begins and profits are re-invested in buying politicians

    Only an idiot would attempt this. If they “bought” Mugabe he’s certainly in no position to help them now.

    Get it through your thick skulls. China screwed over America and became flush with cash. They have to do something with that cash. One of the things they do is overseas investments. China’s investments in Africa is a pittance compared to their investments in America. Is China colonizing America too? Among African countries only South Africa is in the top 10 list of Chinese foreign investees. The rest are comprised of Asian countries, in addition to Australia and the United States. Including investments in capital markets, the United States is far and away the largest recipient of Chinese investments.

    • Replies: @Malla
  86. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    ou were born too late. You would’ve made a fine sniveling Indian functionary doing the bidding of your British colonial masters — turning in your own people, having them tortured for information in order to win brownie points with your white masters.

    LOL, Malla you’re not a Gunga Din, are you?

    • Replies: @Malla
  87. Okechukwu says:
    @Yee

    Africa is important for China because once it can develop a little, it’d be as big a market as China. It doesn’t matter who actually setup shops and factories in Africa, as long as they create jobs for the Africans.

    Exactly. Some of what you say is described here:

    Africa will take China’s place as the next factory of the world

    https://qz.com/1120730/africa-will-be-the-next-factory-of-the-world/

    The Chinese have been victimized by white supremacism in and out of China. They’re not about to try to visit an Asian supremacist ideology on Africans even if they could (which they can’t). Nobody can colonize Africans in the 21st century. Africans would simply kill enough of them to send them packing. Hell, Rhodesia was an anachronism destined to fail in the mid 20th century. Trying to re-apply that concept today is by orders of magnitude more difficult and would result in the putative colonial masters being sent home in boxes, assuming they can even find their body parts.

    It was China, along with Russia, Cuba, etc., that helped African freedom fighters overthrow the white supremacist regimes in Southern Africa in the first. I am all for them profiting in mutually beneficial arrangements. Certainly they should receive preference over the former European colonial powers whose only motives in Africa were exploitation and aggrandizement. The Southern African countries are looking east rather than west, and I support that completely.

    When the Africans have income, there’d surely be a market for products they don’t make. Chinese products will then complete with Europe, America, India products etc., for the African market. Who’s going to win, do you think?

    This is a win-win. But don’t forget that Africans are also conducting business in China, some have even set up their own factories:

    African traders flocked to Guangzhou for the cheap goods but are staying to run manufacturing operations

    “Goods from the West are very expensive for the African market,” said Adams Bodomo, author of a study about China’s emerging African community. “[Traders] were all attracted to cheaply manufactured Chinese goods,” he said. The first wave of Africans arrived in the late 1990s, shuttling shipments between Guangzhou and African hubs like Lagos, Abidjan and Accra, forming the backbone of the kind of informal trade that has helped make China Africa’s biggest trading partner.

    Chinese manufacturers and traders looking to make greater profit are now taking their wares straight to Africa and some Africans in China are rapidly turning away from buying and selling the small batches of cheap, low-margin products like clothes and plastic household goods that have made up much of their business. Instead, traders have begun manufacturing and shipping everything from heavy machinery to toothpicks for African companies.

    This shift has meant that instead of just trading with Chinese businesses, African merchants are partnering with them to run factories, warehouses and export operations. There are closer cultural ties too, with a growing number of intermarriages, and groups dedicated to keeping the peace between the African communities and their Chinese hosts.

    https://qz.com/81642/african-traders-flocked-to-guangzhou-for-the-cheap-goods-but-are-staying-to-run-manufacturing-operations/

    The next step, as Chinese manufactured goods become more expensive, is for these African entrepreneurs to shift their operations to Africa. As a commodity trader myself, I know that transportation costs alone can kill transactions. The closer you are to the point of sale the better.

    It has nothing to do with colonization. I hope the Africans understand this and tell the lying NGOs to f##k off.

    Don’t worry. Africans understand that these “sky is falling” and “Africa is being enslaved by China” proclamations are driven by jealousy, envy and lamentations over what could have been had they conducted themselves appropriately when they had their shot. There are some bad actors among the Chinese but African countries are independent national entities that have the wherewithal to weed out these people and send them back to China. For the most part, both peoples are engaged in brotherly, mutually beneficial relations. And this makes white supremacists epileptic with consternation.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
  88. Eagle Eye says:
    @Rixon

    Rhodesia was considered Africa’s bread-basket.

    Bread-basket to basket case in 20 years. No wonder Saint Robert Mugabe is venerated by Leftists in Africa and the West.

  89. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Truth

    Colonizing anyone is a very bad idea and leads to nothing but problems.

    I truly hope Africans can learn to take care of themselves and develop their own nations without outside help or interference.

    • Replies: @Malla
  90. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    It doesn’t matter what you are or claim to be. Your remarks indicate that you’re a white supremacist. Besides, a self-loathing Indian scumbag like you is by definition a white supremacist. You’re the type Idi Amin threw out, and may the Allah bless his soul for that. You were born too late. You would’ve made a fine sniveling Indian functionary doing the bidding of your British colonial masters — turning in your own people, having them tortured for information in order to win brownie points with your white masters.

    I stick with the truth. And you are an irrational black supremacist who ignores reality and logic with no wisdom whatsoever. Idi Amin threw out Indians so that he could loot the money made by Indians after years of hard work. This was jealousy pure and simple. He might have been a big grown man but had the mind of a little baby. He could not comprehend our mercantile abilities and so like a little stupid jealous kid kicked out the only talent Uganda had to the detriment of his country.

    Since you love anecdotes, let me share one with you: While in college an Indian moved into my apartment complex. Within a few weeks the place was overrun by cockroaches. Upon further investigation building management discovered that this Indian kept his apartment filthy and disgusting. This attracted the cockroaches which he nurtured and fed deliberately. When they finally entered his apartment, innumerable hordes of cockroaches were climbing the walls in broad daylight. Apparently vermin worship is a core tenet of his religion and killing them is absolutely forbidden.

    This shows you have no idea about the ancient religion of India but I do not expect it out of you. LOL an African telling us about filth and stench and non-existent hygiene, yeah really? Look in the mirror for a change.

    That’s a nice fantasy you got there. Sure, Indians are doing business in Africa. But if they misbehave they’ll get the Amin treatment.

    LOL, you are a naive childish black supremest idiot so blinded by your false ego and hatred that you do not see clearly how things work in that continent behind the scenes. Anyways, it is good you never understand, ignorance is good for you.

  91. Malla says:
    @Truth

    You truly are an idiot I see.

    I said
    “I know how Indians speak when others are not in the room ”

    and then

    “And I know how Asians think in general.”

    Don’t mix them up.

    • Replies: @Truth
  92. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    You can bark as much as you want but the fact still remains that by removing their White protectors, Africa has become ripe for an Asian take over (Arabs, Chinese, Indians). Not that it makes any difference to me.

  93. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Direct conquest is not the only form for colonization. But simple minds do not understand any better.

    • Replies: @Truth
  94. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The Southern African countries are looking east rather than west, and I support that completely.

    I support that too, it will be a lot of fun.

  95. Malla says:
    @Truth

    “Malla you’re not a Gunga Din, are you?”

    Oooooo, get out the Uncle Tom comments to shut out the truth speakers, so that we can keep our fake illusions and egos intact. Works like a charm in shutting down people who speak uncomfortable facts. I agree, it’s brilliant. Do you carry a small black diary of such Uncle Tom accusations in your pocket?

    • Replies: @Truth
  96. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Why do millions of Indians defecate in the open?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27775327

    Maybe you should take a mike and camera and take an interview of those Indians who do defecate in the open, since you are so curious. I would like to know the reason ‘why’ too but I am not as curious as you.

    Setting loose savvy, enterprising Africans in India is the equivalent of taking candy from babies.

    Yeah, like 911 scams and drug running. Guptas, a nobody from India have taken over one of the most advanced country in Africa run by the ANC. And that is just one example. There have been Africans coming here for decades, where have your “savvy, enterprising Africans” reached yet? I doubt even Mr. Dangote can do a takeover of India like how the Guptas did a takeover of South Africa. Or even Uganda

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-36132151

    or the Vaswanis of Nigeria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Vaswani

    See that is why I know that you are a “big mouth’ spewing nonsense. Your comments proves it.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Okechukwu
  97. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    China already has the European playbook and all they have to do to be successful is do the exact opposite of everything the Europeans did.

    But they are doing exactly what the Europeans did, like say build state of the art railways of the era.

    • Replies: @Truth
  98. Malla says:
    @lavoisier

    Colonizing anyone is a very bad idea and leads to nothing but problems.

    Very true, especially for the colonizer, empire building in the long term is very costly.

  99. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Besides, a self-loathing Indian scumbag like you is by definition a white supremacist.

    Big assumption there. You have no proof I am self loathing. Stop acting like a clown

    A self loathing Indian is a White Supremacist?
    LOL This proves that you are an idiot who makes up illogical crap all the time. This is one of the dumbest rubbish I have ever read. LOL.
    What if there is a self loathing Indian who thinks black Americans are cooler and wish he was born black, by your definition he would be a White supremacist? LOL, that poor Indian guy, all he wanted to do was act ghetto with grills and gold chain and bitches and act like a rapstar. But not according to you. No No. According to you, since he is a self loathing Indian, he has to wear a KKK outfit and burn crosses. LOL LOL LOL Poor black wannabe self loathing Indian, you will always be a White supremacist by Ochuwu’s crazy logic.

    What if there is a self loathing Indian who thinks East Asians are cooler and wish she be East Asian, by your definition she would be a White supremacist? LOL. And all she wanted to do to express her desire to be East Asian was to listen to Jpop/Kpop and act more Asian (I am not saying that all non East Asians who listen to J pop or K pop are self loathing, that would be dumb, dumb enough to be of Ochuwu low level dumb). But noooooo, Mr. Ochuwu, will have none of that, according to him that East Asian loving self hating Indian girl is a White supremacist and needs to join the female chapter of the Hells Angels. LOL
    Now you see how stupid you are. Or you are too stupid to even see that.

    You’re the type Idi Amin threw out

    More dumb statements from a first grade clown. Yeah, Idi Amin took an interview of each and every Ugandan Asian, to find out if they were self loathing Indians or not to decide who would be kicked out. He could have taken free yoga classes, Ram Katha classes, Bharatnatyam classes and other Indian cultural activities in Kampala on Government money to cure the Indians of their self loathing, there was no need to kick them out. That would have been more humane. The Indians kicked out of Uganda were faaar from self loathing, you can take that from me. They maintained their rich Indian culture through thick and thin and refused to surrender their cultural identity to the Whites or the blacks in Uganda. We Indians are notorious for that. Idi Amin kicked the Asians out because the incompetent blacks could not economically compete with the Indians, so like cry babies, the Ugandan kicked the Asian out. It was black racism pure and simple based on jealousy and blind hatred and incompetence.

    Yeah right, self loathing Indians. Clowns like you bring some humour to Unz.com. Thank you for that.

  100. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Yeah, like 911 scams

    I meant 419 scams.

  101. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    I think the Chinese are making a big mistake. Maybe 50 years from now, the Chinese will be blamed for looting the resources of Africa and keeping Africa backward by the Africans of the future to explain their screwed up continent then. That is why I am totally totally against Indian companies doing anything with that continent. There will be dumb accusations coming our way in the future. But anyways, unlike moral White people who have tendencies towards feeling guilty, the Indians of the future will not get affected by their blaming, we are survivalists. We will probably just ignore the stupid allegations, make our own counter allegations (if they can make up b.s, so can we) or just laugh it off.

    • Replies: @Anon
  102. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Apparently vermin worship is a core tenet of his religion and killing them is absolutely forbidden.

    I did not know that as an Indian, but if that is so then India is da place for you, you will be worshiped here. You will even have a temple to yourself. Temples make good money, a lot of money. The Balaji Tirupati temple for example makes more money every year than many big corporations. Think about it.

  103. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    If they “bought” Mugabe he’s certainly in no position to help them now.

    They do not need Mugabe’s help, lol, Mugabe might need outside help. China had decided that Mnangagwa would be Mugabe’s successor to run Zimbabwe but Grace Mugabe and her close allies had plans to take over the successorship of Zimbabwe after the death of her very old senile husband. China did not approve of this, hence coup. The general who headed the coup was in China two weeks back. It is a coup against Grace, not Robert, Robert is too old now to mean anything.

    There is one part in the above video which claims that this is first time that a non Western country has done a regime change in a different country for a century or two. That is rubbish. Our own Indian RAW (Research and Analysis Wing, the external secret service arm of the Indian government) had orchestrated a coup against the independent Buddhist King of Sikkim and thus Sikkim was absorbed into India, yeah we acted like a colonial power. Also our RAW regularly interferes and changes governments it does not like in neighbouring Nepal and Sri Lanka. For example when the Nepali Prime Minister Oli was getting too close to China, RAW orchestrated a political change by paying monies to the opposition parties and creating a opposition coalition to get rid of Oli.

    When the Sri Lankan PM Mahinda Rajapaksa was getting too close to China allowing Chinese submarines to dock at Colombo (making us very uncomfortable) similar tactics were used by our RAW agents to get rid of him.

    http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/1/2195/NSA-Dovals-Coup-Against-Rajapaksa-And-China-in-Sri-Lanka

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri-lanka-election-india-insight/indian-spys-role-alleged-in-sri-lankan-presidents-election-defeat-idUSKBN0KR03020150118

    BTW Our RAW in collaboration with Mossad of Israel is very very active in East Africa now since China has a military base there. We have loads of agents there, most of them local blacks.

    On a different note
    Maybe you need to watch this again about the Gupta thing.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @denk
  104. Malla says:

    “It was China, along with Russia, Cuba, etc., that helped African freedom fighters overthrow the white supremacist regimes in Southern Africa in the first. ”

    Oh yeah, Cuba. Che Guevara the famous revolutionary Cuban had come to Angola to fight against oppression and racism. Brings tears to my eyes. But what did he say about black people.
    Lets seee.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3657/che_guevara_was_no_hero_he_was_a_racist

    “The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.”

    What??? Che the great fighter against oppression, slavery, UFO attacks, bum boils and racism ironically had some naughty racist thoughts. What in the world is goin on?

    The great revolutionary also wrote
    “The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese.”
    Comrade Che, they may lack the affinity for bathing but they are fast about calling us Indians filthy. The Universe is an irony.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @gT
  105. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Malla

    We all believe what we want to believe Malla. And we all think more highly of ourselves and our cultures than what is true. Many Africans seem particularly delusional in this regard.

    Thank you for taking the time to give us the Indian perspective on African colonialism.

    When Africans flee the West for Africa instead of the other way around I will start believing that Africans are capable of creating stable functioning societies. Until that time, I wish them the best but truly believe that it is better for the West if Africans stay in Africa.

    After all, the black expatriate experience in the West has not been by any means an unmitigated success for white people.

    • Replies: @Malla
  106. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Great!

    Well if you know what Asians think, tell me what the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans think about Indians. Especially the ones who have been to India.

    Now I ain’t psychic like you, but I think I can make a fair guess…

    • Replies: @Malla
  107. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Yes, the other form is called “partnership.”

  108. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Do you carry a small black diary of such Uncle Tom accusations in your pocket?

    I did through about the 10th grade, but I’ve memorized them all.

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  109. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    The question is, will the Africans change at all? One thing to consider is that in the near future the half-Chinese will be in a position of considerable influence in many areas.

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  110. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Guptas, a nobody from India have taken over one of the most advanced country in Africa run by the ANC.

    The attitudes you express here will result in Indians authoring their own demise. Being afflicted with low intelligence and low self-esteem, Indians have a tendency to trumpet their minor achievements and blow them wholly out of proportion. I’m sure these Guptas, being Indians, have gone around bragging about controlling South Africa, when they do not. I know they’ve offered government posts to individuals which they were in no position to deliver. These actions inevitably will lead to a backlash at which point it will be demonstrated abundantly to them who really controls the state. They may have their ill-gotten assets seized. They may end up in prison. In fact it’s a sure bet that the Guptas will lose their stolen assets and end up in prison. Even the FBI and their British equivalent are on their trail.

    The people that actually controlled countries (as opposed to fantasizing about it), the British for example, never spoke or behaved in such grandiose, braggadocios terms. It was considered very bad form, the conduct of low-bred primitives. But Indians make some minor inroads into some small African countries and they just about throw parties to announce it, while at the same time wildly misrepresenting the control they do have.

    You Indians still haven’t learned your lesson from your eviction by Idi Amin, which, by the way, was the greatest thing he ever did.

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    , @Art Deco
    , @Malla
    , @gT
  111. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    You know, that you need to be physically separated from Indians in order to not get crushed by them in fair competition is not your greatest advertisement.

    Just saying.

    And not Indian.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  112. Okechukwu says:
    @Anon

    I didn’t say I was afraid of fair competition.

  113. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    It was simply that Rhodesia’s wealth came from mining, which produces revenue for the state in the form of royalties.

    No, that’s Zambia (Northern Rhodesia prior to 1964). Zambia never had many white settlers.

    Zimbabwe (Rhodesia prior to 1979 and Southern Rhodesia prior to 1964) once had over 250,000 white settlers. Agriculture was the attractive force. (See Doris Lessing’s novel The Grass is Singing for a portrait of life on a Rhodesian farm; Lessing’s family farmed). Over the last generation, ores and minerals have generally accounted for about 20% of Zimbabwe’s revenues from merchandise trade (v. the 70% that has been typical in Zambia).

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  114. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    Median earnings for South African Indians are 2x those of blacks and about 70% those of whites. Mean earnings are 3x those of blacks and about 75% those of whites.

    https://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/131524/this-is-the-average-salary-in-south-africa-by-race-and-industry/

    That suggests income levels for South African Indians are about 2.2x the South African mean and perhaps the rough equivalent of the more affluent East European states. Of course, you have quality of life deficits in South Africa not reflected in income and production statistics, due to the horrendous crime rate there. Very little of that crime is attributable to the South African Indian population.

    The expulsion of the Indians from Uganda reflects, of course, resentment of the prosperity of others. You benefit from having human capital in your country, not from burning down your neighbor’s house. It seems some Africans are averse to learning that.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  115. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    Median earnings for South African Indians are 2x those of blacks and about 70% those of whites. Mean earnings are 3x those of blacks and about 75% those of whites.

    This is a stupid comparison. Indians were top earners during Apartheid as well. Obviously, they weren’t subjected to anywhere near the same levels of discrimination as blacks. Now they benefit from black empowerment policies. The government may as well give whites access to the same programs.

    You’re also comparing a small selected group of less than 1 million Indians to 41 million indigenous blacks. Nigerian Americans earn more than white Americans. But that doesn’t say anything in particular because the Nigerian sample size in the United States is much too small.

    The expulsion of the Indians from Uganda reflects, of course, resentment of the prosperity of others.

    That’s not how the Ugandans saw it. They believed, with very good reason, that they were expelling an exploitative and treacherous group of racist Indians who had no regard for the country or its black population, nor any allegiance to it. From their point of view it was dangerous to allow such persons to remain in the country, as they formed a grave threat to national security. Expulsion is hardly something invented in Uganda. During and after WWII Europeans expelled millions of other Europeans all over Europe for much of the same reasons.

    I certainly don’t recommend or condone expulsions today. But the Ugandans had ample cause at that time.

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    , @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  116. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Revealed: Why Idi Amin expelled Asians from Uganda

    http://www.thelondoneveningpost.com/features/revealed-why-idi-amin-expelled-asians-from-uganda/

    I just saw that this link is broken and the page/article does not seem to exist anymore, but I was able to find a cached part/page of the article and archived it:

    We once again go deep into Dr Arnold Spero Bisase’s book Guardian Angel Volume One: The Beginning to find out what actually made former Ugandan dictator Idi Amin to expel Asian British passport holders from Uganda.
    [...]
    Towards the end of the procession came the family of a very prosperous businessman Mr Sherali Bandari Jaffer, the owner of The Fairway Hotel by the Kitante Road, Kampala. He was now the one narrating this story to me. Among the ladies following him was his beautiful youngest daughter. One look at her and Idi Amin instantly fancied her; his gaze fixed on her until she sat down amongst the ladies enclosure. At the conclusion of the event, Idi Amin sent his bodyguard to tell Mr Jaffer that the President wanted his daughter and was therefore proposing for her hand in marriage. At that stage Amin had already four wives, so it would have necessitated getting rid of (sack) one of them in accordance with Muslim tradition.
    [...]
    Amin was so incensed by this snub that he vowed to punish, and he quoted “these people who showed flagrant discrimination against him (me)” The next day All Non-Citizen Asians were given 90 days to get out of Uganda. But the reason Idi Amin gave now was that: ‘Because God spoke to him (me)in the night and told him (me) that they had to leave as they were responsible for exploiting the indigenous citizens of the country’!! Take that! And it is exactly as I got it from Mr Jaffer. And so began the Exodus of unimaginable proportions and suffering for the victims of this man’s obsession for the skirt.

    http://archive.is/93wUI

    I agree with this comment by commenter Malla:

    You can bark as much as you want but the fact still remains that by removing their White protectors, Africa has become ripe for an Asian take over (Arabs, Chinese, Indians). Not that it makes any difference to me.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/why-all-three-south-african-presidents-supported-robert-mugabe/#comment-2103818

    I think Huntington’s analysis is still useful in this regard. Idi Amin allied himself with Muslims/Arabs which was probably unwise (see for the reason why, below). The West and Whites are still Africans’ best bet, like Malla said, in my opinion. Choose wisely. Good luck:

    The thicker the line the greater the potential for conflict between civilizations/cultures/peoples.

    Source: https://blogs.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/01/clashing_civilizations_revisited/

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    , @denk
  117. Malla says:
    @lavoisier

    Welcome and yes I agree with everything you say.

  118. Malla says:
    @Truth

    I guess they think we are the home of Buddhism.

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  119. Malla says:
    @Truth

    I did through about the 10th grade, but I’ve memorized them all.

    I believe you, are are an expert.

  120. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Being afflicted with low intelligence and low self-esteem, Indians have a tendency to trumpet their minor achievements and blow them wholly out of proportion.

    LOL, a case of ‘the pot calling the kettle black’. Yes as if Africans are not prone to this. I could replace ‘Indian’ with ‘black’ in that statement and it would sound just right.

    I’m sure these Guptas, being Indians, have gone around bragging about controlling South Africa, when they do not. I know they’ve offered government posts to individuals which they were in no position to deliver.

    WATCH the videos properly. Even ANC members are calling it a state within a state. Power behind the throne.

  121. Malla says:
    @Anon

    The question is, will the Africans change at all?

    Seems unlikely from reading the comments here.

    One thing to consider is that in the near future the half-Chinese will be in a position of considerable influence in many areas.

    There is a good possibility of that. Like Jean Ping from Gabon for example.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ping

  122. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Obviously, they weren’t subjected to anywhere near the same levels of discrimination as blacks.

    If if that is true, the difference was very small.

    You’re also comparing a small selected group of less than 1 million Indians to 41 million indigenous blacks. Nigerian Americans earn more than white Americans. But that doesn’t say anything in particular because the Nigerian sample size in the United States is much too small.

    That is a fair point. It would be wrong to compare a selected group of Indians with the entire black population. But lets look at a country where both blacks and Asian South Asians (subcontinental) are not native. A country with a fairly equal number of blacks and browns with a tiny minority of Native Americans Whites, East Asians and Middle Easterners. I speak of Guyana. And guess what, we desis (South Asians) freakin dominate the economy good. The blacks are no match for us.

    Check out the black guy in center, Dr. David Hinds hooing and hawing and getting emotional about why they cannot compete with the desis (people from the Indian subcontinent) of Guyana. LOL.

    I can bet that had Indians been a tiny minority in Guyana as had been the case of Uganda, there would have been calls to kick us out from there too. But thank Lord Shiva as well as Allah that we are about half of the population.

    More of this good Dr crying and braying

    More crying, more ‘racism’, more blaming. It never ends. They never get tired.
    Wait, he says Race is more important than class. That is what Hitler and the National Socialists said. Heil Hinds! LOL.

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  123. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    They believed, with very good reason, that they were expelling an exploitative and treacherous group of racist Indians who had no regard for the country or its black population, nor any allegiance to it.

    Sounds similar to the expulsion of Jews from European/Arab countries. Exactly the same rhetoric.

  124. Malla says:
    @FKA Max

    That is a good analysis of inter civilizational relationships. It is true, we Hindus have no problem with orthodox Europeans at all, indeed Russia is very very popular here and seen as our brothers. The Soviets had helped us a lot and Pakistan was more on the American side. Even before the Soviet days, Indian kings at the North West frontier region got advanced weapons from the Russians which was needed to fight the British.
    Seems quite accurate.

    Anyways
    “The West and Whites are still Africans’ best bet”
    That is 100% true as compared to the other populations the Africans will face now as the White protectors are gone and as Asia rises. The Chinese are one of the best of the Asians if you ask me.
    But the more important question is, is it in the interest of the West or Whites to bet on Africans? I would say, it is better for Whites and the west to distance themselves as much as possible from Africans, will be good in the long run.

    Check this out
    Black Africans are still slaves in Yemen

    Treated like shit in Iraq

    in Israel

    in India

    In North Africa auctioned as slaves

    Yet they are obsessed with only YT, it is funny. I do not see al sharpton going to Iraq or Libya to fight for the rights of blacks there.LOL LOL. Evan the NOI will be quite about this when it happens in Islamic countries. It is only Whites they obsess with but blacks in those brown countries suffer none the less.

    Anyways my point is most black African leaders are corrupt, some black leaders are good say like Jerry Rawlings of Ghana (yeah he is half Scottish but he identifies more with his Ghanaian side) among others. And some White African politicians can be corrupt too but the truth is black African leaders are very corrupt, much much more on average than the average White African politician. There is no comparison. And when a slimey Arab or Indian/Pakistani businessman makes an alliance with the corrupt black politician, it opens the portals of hell for the country. The Chinese are far from the worst. But that is the future of the continent anyways. A black elite minority will benefit (and buy up property in Dubai, that is the rage among rich Nigerians now a days) but for the masses, it does not seem good. What I would say is, if there are any Whites still left in Africa, Leave. For those Whites who find it hard to leave due to poverty, Whites around the world should do everything to help them leave Africa. I know, the land of South Africa is magical and all that, but I see a dark future in the long term (after the short term boom facade collapses). And the black elites will use Whites as the boogeyman to get the attention off them and their mismanagement just like what the Guptas attempted, just like what Mugabe actually did. Guptas must have realized after coming to Africa that this is an old, tried and tested political move, they learnt this trick in Africa. A typical North Indian family like Gupta know nothing about other peoples, they are typical self obsessed desis (subcontinentals) like most desis. No way they would get such an idea when they were in India.
    With no White people around to blame, they will have to come up with other political tricks, as South Africa slides into becoming a typical black African country.

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  125. Malla says:
    @Malla

    What Dr. Hind does not realize is that, Hind is a term for India. Arabs called the Indian subcontinent Al-Hind, hence Hindustan, Hindu. LOL, if da Dr. Hinds realized that, he would rush for a name change, he would hate to be named after the hated Indians. LOL

  126. gT says:
    @Malla

    Poor Che, seems he came to Angola with a bunch of dedicated, hard core revolutionaries, to show the MPLA (the anti-colonialist Angolan liberation movement) how to do things. And what happened, after a short while even his guys had caught jungle fever and didn’t want to dig trenches for ambushes (sun too hot, ground too hard, etc), just like the MPLA. Africa is a tough place.

    Africa has indeed become ripe for an Asian take over (Arabs, Chinese, Indians), but not because the Whites have left, but because the Africans don’t want to become economically self-sufficient and build their own tanks, fighter jets, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, etc. Just look at South Africa, before we had nuclear bombs and a thriving arms industry, now we gave up our nuclear bombs and most of our arms industry and bought stupid German and Swedish armaments instead of buying Russian weaponry. We shot ourselves in the foot to appease the West, the West wants us to be not so self-reliant but rather dependent on them and so easier to control. Now the West is going downhill and withdrawing and the East is moving into the vacuum.

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  127. gT says:
    @Okechukwu

    Yep, Indians in Africa don’t know about keeping a low profile and instead draw unnecessary attention to themselves, not so clever in the long run.

    Man is like a dog, a dog must protect its territory or else it deserves to lose it. If a dog allows others onto its territory and allows them to be successful there, then that dog is a pussy. Africa is not a pussy (Europe is), but it is too sleepy, to slow to react and backwards. Africa had therefor better wake up, modernize and get itself sharper, longer range teeth because others will take advantage.

  128. Malla says:
    @Truth

    nah, they won’t take over India, not the same case. there is a possibility that the Chinese take over neighbouring Nepal and Sri Lanka. Which is good for them. Better to be the vassals of the Chinese than to be our vassals. Unlucky is the country which is dominated by the arrogant Indian Government.

    As far as boycotting Chinese goods, that is bullshit. That boycott movement came because China blocked our entry into the nuclear supplier’s group as well as vetoed us in the UN when we were trying to screw Pakistan over terrorism. But there is this stupid rumour going around in India that China depends on India significantly for it’s export earning. That is rubbish, at most 2% of China’s export earnings depend on India. That is why hyper nationalist Hinduvadi agents spread this anti-Chinese goods movements throughout India so that this will cause China economic pain. That is laughable as I said, only 2% of China’s export comes from us. If we were the EU or the USA, then maybe we could put some real pressure. The only people to feel the pain were our own local Indian traders who depended on China and her goods for their livelihoods. Also there were some native companies who secretly financed these anti Chinese movements so that we have to buy their local expensive Indian made products which most Indians do not want to buy. You remember that bearded Godman Ramdev Baba in the video series about the Guptas. Well he too financed this anti-China movement and gave speeches everywhere. He owns a major local food, medicine and cosmetic FMCG company, second largest in the country which in just a few years has overtaken many Western and Japanese FMCG multinational companies in India in market share. He is the one shouting about Swadeshi which basically means buy Indian. But guess what, this Ramdev character was forcing local Indian farmers to sell him apples at loss making prices for his apple juice plant. Obviously the farmers opposed the deal after a couple of years. So Baba Ramdev, the guy who is been shouting at every corner ‘Swadeshi, never buy anything foreign especially from China, only buy Made in India Products’ promptly canceled the contract with the Indian farmers and imported apple concentrate from CHINA !!!! Talk about hypocrisy. There are jokes about him abound. ‘Baba Ramdev tweets “Boycott goods made in China, boycott foreign goods, only buy Indian” from his iphone made in China.’ LOL.

  129. Malla says:
    @gT

    Just look at South Africa, before we had nuclear bombs and a thriving arms industry, now we gave up our nuclear bombs and most of our arms industry

    Bingo, that is exactly why the globalists wanted the Apartheid regime to fall. The apartheid regime was not fighting the blacks but the globalists. Marxist black leaders like the MI6 agent mandela were working for the globalists.

    This video will explain how the defenders of South Africa were themselves infiltrated by internationalist forces.

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    , @Art Deco
    , @gT
  130. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Check out the comment below the youtube video of Afrikaner Broederbond by Jaco Steyn

    Jaco Steyn
    According to prof. Sampie Terreblanche in his book, “Verdeelde land”, the Military-Energy Complex (MEC) increased their pressure for “change” on the National Party government since 1986. This is the same year that the Broederbond discussed the possibility of a future black president for South Africa, which is mentioned in this film. It is also the same year that the Synod of the Dutch Reformed Church made their decision regarding the “heresy of Apartheid”…

    Military Energy Complex, yup explains it all.

  131. denk says:
    @Okechukwu

    Well said.

    The Chinese way,
    Infrastructure, technology transfer, Imparting skill.

    The murkkan way,
    military bases, military games, weapons sales, regime change, assasinations…phoney WOT !

    • Replies: @Malla
  132. denk says:
    @Malla

    Raw/CIA joint ops against Chinese

    Yes indeed !

    One of CIA/RAW’s greatest hit in Asia was the wholesale massacre of Nepalese king Birendra’s entire family in 2002.
    Whats the king’s cardinal sin ?
    He tried to befriend China, a ‘crime’ punishable by death according to Washington/Delhi.

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2001/06/11/chaos-in-katmandu/

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    , @Malla
  133. denk says:
    @FKA Max

    The West and Whites are still Africans’ best bet

    Top grade crack eh ?

    • Replies: @Malla
  134. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Buddha is from Nepal.

    • Replies: @Malla
  135. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    That’s not how the Ugandans saw it. They believed, with very good reason, t

    No, they didn’t have good reason. They were abusing people who embarrassed them. Society as a whole doesn’t benefit from that.

    Indians do well in Africa because of their skill sets. You resent those skill sets in lieu of acquiring skills. That’ll cost you, individually and collectively.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  136. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    The apartheid regime was not fighting the blacks but the globalists.

    A gloss which would have come as a great surprise to the South African government and the organized opposition.

    You number 4 million, they number 26 million. You’ve incrementally constructed a society dependent on their labor, but you’re facing disorder derived from the reality that labor is a factor of production that has people attached to it. The situation is only ‘sustainable’ with escalating levels of coercion (for which the white population did not have the stomach).

    BTW, South Africa’s income and production levels vis a vis those of Europe or the United States haven’t suffered in the last 20-odd years (that metric did decline between 1976 and 1994, not after). The homicide rate is bad, but no worse than what it was in 1985. The white population has yet to be materially injured by the events of the last 20 years.

    • Replies: @Malla
  137. Art Deco says:
    @denk

    One of CIA/RAW’s greatest hit in Asia was the wholesale massacre of Nepalese king Birendra’s entire family in 2002.

    Amazing the fantasies that help people get through the day.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
  138. Malla says:
    @denk

    The problem is those forces which are attacking Africa today attacked the Apartheid Regime of South Africa as well as Rhodesia. What you consider the West are the globalists who control Western governments and by Whites I mean common White people.

  139. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    It is not impossible.
    After all, the Indian RAW did subvert Sikkim right in between Nepal and Bhutan. Sikkim was an independent kingdom, invaded and absorbed into India. An ex RAW agent has written a book about it.

    http://bharatuntoldstory.tumblr.com/post/87723933013/rawoperations-sikkim-amalgamation-of-sikkim

    https://thevoiceofnation.com/politics/how-raw-sabotaged-sikkimese-monarchy-a-mission-initiated-by-nehru-closed-by-daughter-indira-gandhi/

    And the RAW does interfere in Nepal all the time like getting rid of pro China Nepalese Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nepal-prime-minister-oli-sees-indias-hand-behind-toppling-his-government-1431526

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  140. Malla says:
    @Truth

    That is true but many people wrongly believe he was born in India. But Gaya is in India. Besides centuries ago there was no Republic of India or Nepal with the present borders. The whole subcontinent was considered India, full of kingdoms fighting each other.

  141. Malla says:
    @denk

    Murica is run by flashy lawyer like people who talk the talk and walk the walk. China is run by boring engineer like folk who think and plan long term. Compare the looks and demeanor of Jiang Zemin and Bill Clinton.

  142. gT says:
    @Malla

    Damn, first I learnt on UNZ that the ANC (the main anti-apartheid party in South Africa) was heavily Jew facilitated and now I learn on UNZ that the Afrikaner Broederbond (main Apartheid founding Afrikaner secret organization) had also gone heavily Masonic with a pyramid as its symbol. And everyone knows that the Free Masons are heavily involved with Ilana dearest’s nation / tribe, so they supported both sides of the conflict as usual; talk about nefarious agendas.

    Nice healthy sized chap who chased the 3 crooks off with his gun, he’s got the right spirit, he must learn to run a bit faster and to aim a bit straighter though. And that dude in the car missed a bloke standing right in front of him.

    • Replies: @Malla
  143. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    A gloss which would have come as a great surprise to the South African government and the organized opposition.

    To the common people of South Africa, black, Khoi San, white, coloured, Indians and others maybe. The Nationalist Party and African national Congress top brass, maybe not.

    What many people around the world will find very strange is (at 26:02 minutes of the video) when South African leader P.W. Botha went to visit and negotiate with President Mangope of Bophuthatswana he was accompanied by Mr. Mac Maharaj a commie scum from the ANC who was dictating to Mr. Botha instructions he was to follow. Why was the leader of South Africa taking his instructions from this communist guy Mac Maharaj affiliated to the ANC who had not official power in the South African government at that time? Maharaj became a minister only after 1994.
    The whole video is worth watching.

  144. Malla says:
    @gT

    Very true, the video is a red pill all right. Makes one wonder what else about history or politics, we are still blue pilled about.

  145. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    That is 100% true as compared to the other populations the Africans will face now as the White protectors are gone and as Asia rises.

    You have a very condescending and paternalistic attitude toward Africans. This is particularly grating given that you come from a country with a lower IQ than multiple African countries and lower overall wealth and living standards per capita than Sub-Saharan Africa. You might try getting your own house in order before looking down on black Africans.

    Yet they are obsessed with only YT,

    Where? How? Who?

    Btw, speaking of slavery, India is the slave capital of the world.

    Modern-day slavery widespread in India

    India is home to some 14 million modern-day slaves, nearly half the total worldwide, according to a newly compiled index. Experts say more aggressive laws need to be passed and enforced to tackle this ‘shameful’ issue.

    http://www.dw.com/en/modern-day-slavery-widespread-in-india/a-17180433

    Again, get your own shit together. And by that I don’t mean shitting in public, which is widespread in India.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Truth
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  146. Malla says:
    @denk

    The Indian RAW was formed after the disastrous defeat we (India) faced at the hands of China in 1972 in the Sino Indian border war. And RAW was trained by the CIA, which is very strange as we were much closer to the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact in those days (officially we were part of the non aligned movement but that was all bullcrap to look holy). In those days Indians were brought up hating the USA (who were officially the friends of Pakistan) and loving the Russians. We considered Russia our big brother. So I would have guessed RAW should have been set up and trained by the KGB. Strange world. Later I came to know that our P.M. Nehru had allowed our officially ‘hated enemies’ Americans to install spying devices at the Indo China border. Whata world.

    Right now, the Indian RAW can be considered an extension of the CIA/Mossad in the Indian subcontinent. Not only does RAW regularly interfere in Nepal, Bhutan, the Maldives and Sri Lanka, they have a office at Dhaka International airport of Bangladesh. Every person going in and out of Bangladesh by air is screened by Indian RAW!!!! Yet many Indians berate and bleat about British colonialism while our neighbours are now complaining about Indian colonialism. LOL.

    The deep state in India looks at itself as the counter to China in Asia and they want to play their own ‘cold war game’ with China just like how it was between the USA and the Soviet Union in the past. But I think they are deluded, as economically and militarily we are waaay weaker than China though our military abilities are respectable in it’s own right. That is why we are seeing the creation of the US led India-Australia-Japan-Vietnam pact to surround China as well as Pakistan which is a Chinese ally now. Yeah, Vietnam is now an US ally, quite a turnaround. So it looks like USA-Japan-India-Australia-Vietnam alliance vs China-Pakistan alliance in this Indian ocean region.

    India, Japan and the USA regularly hold naval exercises, all aimed to scare/piss off China.

    And now Australia wants to join in the party

    BTW RAW is also very close to the Israeli Mossad. You will not believe how active the Mossad is in the Indian subcontinent. The Israelis sold weapons to both the Sri Lankan Govt and also the Tamil resistance LTTE in the Sri Lankan civil War. The Mossad along with the RAW saw to it that the conflict continued as looooong as possible so Israel makes more money supplying both sides, giving a cut to the Indian RAW.

    • Replies: @denk
  147. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    You have a very condescending and paternalistic attitude toward Africans.

    Listen clown, that is wrong, I have no such attitude towards black Africans. I am just predicting what is likely to happen.

    before looking down on black Africans.

    What rubbish, I do not look down on black Africans.

    And by that I don’t mean shitting in public, which is widespread in India.

    You are the first person I have come across who is so obsessed with Indian shit. Why don’t you work in a pathology lab in India analyzing Indian stool? Your dreams will be fulfilled up close.

  148. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    Modern-day slavery widespread in India

    LOL, I don’t know Malla, I think he got you!

    BTW, I never really got this; “yes my country is a peice of shit, but it is better than Africa”, thing that a lot of third-world non-blacks have. I think they think that this will make them seem better, in the eyes of white people than they do now.

    It won’t.

    They may think black people are from a third-world, shit environment, but they think the same about you.

    As you said earlier; you’d be suprised to hear about how whites talk about non-black, non-whites when you are around. Generally they give you credit for absolutely nothing. Whereas they at least give us credit for music, sports and general virility.

    I could be wrong, but my general feeling is that if most white men woke up black overnight they would not be happy about it, but would find some positive in it. If they woke up Indian or Asian, the suicide rate would be about %75.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Okechukwu
  149. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    from a country with a lower IQ

    India has something called as castes, populations who have not mated with each other for nearly 1500 years. There are about 5000 endogamous groups in the Indian subcontinent who do not intermarry (until very recently). Upper caste Indians score much higher on AVERAGE on IQ scores, the commenter Recman has covered this many time on Unz, though being a typical Tamil Brahmin he hikes up South Indian Brahmin IQ to to a ridiculous 125 with no proof. Upper caste Hindus tend to have more ANI ancestry from the Caucasian Central Asian invaders who came nearly 4000 years ago compared to the lower castes, though in India we are all mixed up by now.

    In the diagram, Vaish means Vaishnav upper castes, Meghawals are lower castes from North India and Bhils are aboriginal tribals living in the forests of Interior India. Along with the ANI and ASI 3 other populations came to form the population of India including Tibetan Burman and Austro Asiatics both related to East Asians. The mega IQ score of 82 may be right but thanks to caste complexity, things are much more complex than it seems.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  150. Malla says:
    @Truth

    BTW, I never really got this; “yes my country is a peice of shit, but it is better than Africa”, thing that a lot of third-world non-blacks have. I think they think that this will make them seem better, in the eyes of white people than they do now.

    It won’t.

    They may think black people are from a third-world, shit environment, but they think the same about you.

    Listen what you say may be right but what White people think is really none of my business. They have the freedom to think what they want. I have never obsessed over this.
    As far as third worlders using the ‘atleast my country is better than Africa’ yeah that is true. People tend to do that, Africa has become a benchmark for crappy things. Like if I tell some Indian guy that an African country (other than South Africa of course) is better than us in say literacy, he will have shock on his face as this means a big failure for the country according to him. He would then go on to berate our politicians who do not care about us, sold our country blah blah blah. Yeah thats true. But I have never paid this phenomenon much thought.

    Generally they give you credit for absolutely nothing.

    What do I care about their credit?

    I could be wrong, but my general feeling is that if most white men woke up black overnight they would not be happy about it, but would find some positive in it. If they woke up Indian or Asian, the suicide rate would be about %75.

    Maybe you are right, but I guess that is their (White people turned South Asian) problem. I am quite happy with myself being born what I am.

    BUT I am aware of the failings of my people. Some of them even genetic. I accept the fact that cold climate populations of the North (Euros and East Asians) have higher IQs and other positive traits over us and other southern populations on average, that they have a greater genetic potential to build technologically superior societies, I observe it a lot of times , I do not loose any sleep over it. I just accept it as reality. Or West Africans have some physical traits which are superior than other humans on average, I do not lose any sleep over that either. Or just like I accept the fact that a Cheetah will always run faster than us humans (without any artificial aid) , I do not loose any sleep over it. I just accept it as reality. Or that Eagles can fly while we humans cannot do so without any mechanical aid. Again I accept it as truth.
    This does not make me self loathing Indian and make me wish I was White or East Asian as much as I would wish I was a cheetah or an eagle or a dolphin.

    • Replies: @Truth
  151. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Modern-day slavery widespread in India

    I never denied that. You are a clown of the extreme. When I posted that video of Libyans auctioning Africans as slaves as well as Africans ill treated in Iraq, Israel etc…, what I was saying that those White African farmers were not your greatest enemies. That as compared to the rest of the world, they were your potential allies and protectors. But you lost them, so now face the brown menace on your own. LOL.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  152. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    India has something called as castes, populations who have not mated with each other for nearly 1500 years. There are about 5000 endogamous groups in the Indian subcontinent who do not intermarry (until very recently). Upper caste Indians score much higher on AVERAGE on IQ scores, the commenter Recman has covered this many time on Unz, though being a typical Tamil Brahmin he hikes up South Indian Brahmin IQ to to a ridiculous 125 with no proof.

    I don’t see many of the supposedly high IQ “white” Indians in the United States. Many Indians here are darker than me. Do you want to compare their IQ and educational/occupational attainment levels to those of so-called upper caste Indians in India? I assure you, the Indian upper caste would lose.

    Upper caste Hindus tend to have more ANI ancestry from the Caucasian Central Asian invaders who came nearly 4000 years ago compared to the lower castes, though in India we are all mixed up by now.

    The problem with that theory is that Caucasian Central Asians are in the same IQ range as Indians.

    The mega IQ score of 82 may be right but thanks to caste complexity, things are much more complex than it seems.

    That’s how averages work everywhere. There are also 125 IQ scorers among the Sierra Leone average of 91.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
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  153. Okechukwu says:
    @Truth

    I could be wrong, but my general feeling is that if most white men woke up black overnight they would not be happy about it, but would find some positive in it. If they woke up Indian or Asian, the suicide rate would be about %75.

    Case in point, alot of white women specifically hunt for black men. As far as I know, there’s no great demand among white women for Indian men.

    One of the reasons white women want black men is for procreation. They find bi-racial black/white children beautiful and want one or more or their own.

    • Replies: @Malla
  154. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    I never denied that. You are a clown of the extreme. When I posted that video of Libyans auctioning Africans as slaves as well as Africans ill treated in Iraq, Israel etc…, what I was saying that those White African farmers were not your greatest enemies. That as compared to the rest of the world, they were your potential allies and protectors. But you lost them, so now face the brown menace on your own. LOL.

    Indian and other South Asian migrant workers to that region exist in conditions tantamount to slavery. So maybe you should focus on that rather than trying to give the impression that Indians are part of the global elite not subject to slavery or abuse.

  155. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Maybe you are right, but I guess that is their (White people turned South Asian) problem. I am quite happy with myself being born what I am.

    Well, my friend, if this is true and you do really have confidence in yourself and your “race”, I would think about having my posts reflect this, instead of the opposite.

    • Replies: @Malla
  156. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    Indians do well in Africa because of their skill sets. You resent those skill sets in lieu of acquiring skills. That’ll cost you, individually and collectively.

    Your concern trolling is duly noted but unnecessary. You are flat wrong in your suggestion that black Ugandans need Indians around to show them how to do anything (which the Indians weren’t doing anyway; they wanted to keep the blacks down and dependent). Africans are interacting with the world as equals and indeed are acquiring skills for the 21st century. Ever heard of African Lion economies? Did you know that there are hundreds of tech hubs in Africa? Major corporations are scrambling to set up shop in Africa. They are dealing with Africans, not with whites or Indians.

    Let’s take a look at Uganda, your favorite topic:

    Top 9 Tech Startups from Kampala You Need to Know About in 2017

    The east African nation of Uganda is in the midst of a digital transformation—and with relative prosperity and stability in place, investors and entrepreneurs are capitalizing on emerging market opportunities. In fact, the Global Entrepreneurship Monitor (GEM) recently named Uganda as the world’s most entrepreneurial country, with 28% of adults owning or co-owning a new business.

    https://www.techflier.com/2017/02/10/top-9-tech-startups-from-kampala-you-need-to-know-about-in-2017/

    Under the old dispensation, those tech hubs would’ve been run and managed by Indians. Africans would’ve been relegated to menial or unskilled labor.

    Indians still wield disproportionate economic power in many African countries. This is the legacy of a colonial system that was designed to uplift Indians while keeping Africans ignorant and subservient because they were the ones that posed threats to the colonial regimes. It behooves Africans to break down the Indian power structures and send them packing if necessary. Any moron can run a hotel or a factory. Africans can perform all the functions that Indians currently perform. If they need help with international trade, they can always import Nigerians.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  157. denk says:
    @Art Deco

    Thats not my pov kid,
    every Nepalese and his dog believes CIA/RAW conspired to kill king Birendra,

    http://www.telegraphnepal.com/backup/telegraph/news_det.php?news_id=7417

    I’d say they have good reason too,

    http://www.countercurrents.org/khan131007.htm

    They dont call India the ‘USA of South Asia’ for nuthin you know ?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  158. denk says:
    @FKA Max

    moron,

    CIA/RAW has a track record of hundreds of coups since ww2 alone,
    China has none, zero, nade, zilch.

    if you want us to believe China has just lost its innocence to join in the FUKUSI[ndia] rotten regime change business, !
    You better give a damn good reason cuz I’ve found none !

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  159. denk says:
    @Malla

    Our RAW in collaboration with Mossad of Israel is very very active in East Africa now since China has a military base there

    CIA/RAW/MOSSAD have been ostensibly fighting AQ in Mali for ages,
    But the ‘terrorists’ that attacked Radisson Blu Hotel
    chose to execute Russians and Chinese, who’r against the ‘great satan’, when there’s a big fat juicy group of murkkans.,/Indians sitting around !

    You just couldnt make this stuff up !

    https://journal-neo.org/2015/11/27/terror-in-mali-an-attack-on-china-and-russia/

    • Replies: @malla
    , @Malla
  160. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Do you want to compare their IQ and educational/occupational attainment levels to those of so-called upper caste Indians in India? I assure you, the Indian upper caste would lose.

    You keep on proving you are a stupid clown. Is that black African IQ speaking? LOL. Higher caste desis repeatedly outscore lower caste desis. You speak like a hurt child making making up rubbish. And you can keep your “I assure you to yourself.” I do not need a clown’s assurance, anybody in the HBD community will find your claim laughable.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  161. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Well, my friend, if this is true and you do really have confidence in yourself and your “race”, I would think about having my posts reflect this, instead of the opposite.

    I am proud of being human, so I will make posts that we humans can naturally fly like eagles, swim like dolphins and run as fast as cheetahs. You see the problem there.

  162. Malla says:

    trying to give the impression that Indians are part of the global elite not subject to slavery or abuse.

    You keep on getting funnier. I never tried to impress anybody. If you felt so I was trying to impress something like that on a clown like you, all I can tell you, “do not flatter yourself”.

  163. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Case in point, alot of white women specifically hunt for black men. As far as I know, there’s no great demand among white women for Indian men.
    One of the reasons white women want black men is for procreation. They find bi-racial black/white children beautiful and want one or more or their own.

    I personally never had that problem. And I was hunted by loads of attractive African ladies when I was in the west (one was married) during my wild student days abroad. Many of the West African ones cooked fufu and similar dishes for me back at their rooms. I guess they wanted to have more beautiful babies. Wow, now that I think of it, do have descendants in Africa or among the black community in Europe/USA? Africa had a few babies more beautiful and intelligent than the rest thanks to me. Not bad for an Indian hehe, since normally we are not wanted by other women according to you.

    • LOL: Okechukwu
  164. malla says:
    @denk

    Most of these so called terrorists across the world, all buy their bread and guns with Government secret service money.

  165. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    supposedly high IQ “white” Indians

    There are no “Whites” left in the Indian subcontinent anymore, we are all mixed now, except maybe the Kalasha in Pakistan who still retain more White. There are no aboriginal pure blacks left in India either except maybe the Jarawas.

  166. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The problem with that theory is that Caucasian Central Asians are in the same IQ range as Indians.

    The population of Central Asia has changed.

    Scythians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    Cumans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans

    Alans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

  167. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    anybody in the HBD community will find your claim laughable.

    Umm…the HBD community is what’s laughable. The fact that you don’t recognize that is irrefutable evidence of your mind-numbing stupidity.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  168. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Bray and bleat as much as you want, but if Africa wants to be first world, White people and their talent are the best bet. Chinese are not bad alternative too. Import millions of Northern Euros and North East Asians and Africa’s economy will improve naturally with time. That is 1000% true and that truth does not care if you like it or not, it is the truth.The next best alternatives are us desis and Middle Easterners and South East Asians but then there is always the slimy cunning Indian/Pakistani/Arab businessman and the corrupt black African politician waiting for him.
    If we could do an experiment, where one section of Africa imports millions of Northern Europeans and North East Asians, that part of Africa will be the most developed part very soon and the blacks there will have a far better standard of living than the rest of Africa. 1000%

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  169. Malla says:
    @denk

    fighting AQ

    AQ has always been an extension of CIA/MI6/Mossad/Saudi intelligence. Same with so called ISIS.

    BTW you might find this interesting about the 26/11 Mumbai attack

    But I believe that the Pakistani ISI was involved too. Being a Pakistani, he is hiding that part out.

    The guy being interviewed in the video above is an Ex Indian Police Service Officer.
    It seems one of the many aims of the Mumbai 26/11 attacks was to get rid of ATS (Anti terrorist) Hemant Karkare who was investigating ultra rightwinged Hindu terrorist networks. That there were elements of Mossad as well as Indian IB (Investigation Bureau, arm of the Indian government for internal security) deeply involved in the false flag operation. In other words it was as false flag as 9/11 or many of the other attacks in Europe.
    Strange Strange world. Strange for the common man sheepie, not for someone who knows how the World really works.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @denk
  170. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    HBD community is what’s laughable

    Yeah, sure. LOL.

  171. Malla says:
    @denk

    Wow, I know that RAW repeatedly interferes in Nepal, but I had no idea that they were behind the whole Nepalese Royal Family death fiasco. Thanks for the info.
    But the way things are right now, I think it is becoming beyond our abilities to stop Nepal or Sri Lanka going towards the Chinese orbit.

  172. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    LOL, you are the child crying and shouting your nonsense theories. There is not way lower caste desis have higer IQ than upper caste desis on average. Not that intelligent lower castes do not exist. They do. Ambedkar was a true genius.

  173. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    You do not need the HBD community. If you speak on the roads of India that lower caste Indians are more smarter than upper caste Indians, you will laughed out of town. Most people in India are naturally HBD, we are street smart enough. Westerners need HBD and all that because they have been under massive leftist brainwashing for decades which has turned the vast majority of them into naive fools.

  174. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Bray and bleat as much as you want, but if Africa wants to be first world, White people and their talent are the best bet.

    White people aren’t banned from Africa. There are European and American companies and businesspeople all over Africa. What you want is neo-colonialism, which even most white people don’t want. So no thanks. As others have mentioned, what Africa needs is partnership, not colonial exploitation. If the colonialists had operated in Africa in the spirit of partnership and mutual benefit, everybody would be better off today, including the Europeans. Before the Europeans became very strong relative to Africans, they conducted trade and commerce on equal terms. African states exchanged ambassadors with their Europe counterparts. That was a much healthier relationship that, unfortunately, didn’t survive the advent of modern European weapons. Once the Europeans gained maxim machine guns and other modern weapons, that’s when colonialism started in earnest.

    Import millions of Northern Euros and North East Asians and Africa’s economy will improve naturally with time.

    Since you’re such an advocate of this kind of scheme, try it in India, which by many measures is in worse shape than Africa.

    If we could do an experiment, where one section of Africa imports millions of Northern Europeans and North East Asians, that part of Africa will be the most developed part very soon and the blacks there will have a far better standard of living than the rest of Africa. 1000%

    You don’t even understand how human development works, yet you keep bragging about your alleged IQ. The Roman Empire brought aqueducts, baths, writing, architecture, engineering, wheeled vehicles and all manner of advanced technology to ancient Britain and Ancient Germania. But the barbarians fought to throw them out anyway. What followed was a thousand years of painful fits and starts and trial and error. Ultimately, the Europeans were better off for the departure of the Romans. Africa doesn’t need a thousand years. But they do need some time to find their own way. That is already happening today to the chagrin of people like you. The worst thing they can do is introduce millions of neo-colonialists. That will only set them back and retard their progress for as long as the colonialists remain. Your suggestion is absurd.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  175. Malla says:

    India, which by many measures is in worse shape than Africa.

    In a few measures, not many. Anyways, we have a population equal to all of the continent of Africa living in an area much much smaller.

    • Replies: @Truth
  176. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Anyways, I do not see colonial empires coming back in the way it was in the past. Anyways, the history of colonialism and the fall of colonial empires is much more complicated than what many think.

  177. Wade says:
    @Priss Factor

    “soy boys” … that was a new one for me. I like it.

  178. Wade says:
    @Priss Factor

    Westerner people and our thinking is kinda screwed up.

  179. Wade says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    I’m totally open minded to the possibility that Jews played an out sized role in bringing these events about. What with their stranglehold over all media in the west and all it’s hard to avoid.

    But why drag Ilana into it? It’s a dick move. She’s done way more than you to draw everyone’s attention to the facts.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  180. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    What was the share of exports of minerals in the 1960s and 1970s in Zimbabwe? The figure will be very high as mining was the biggest part of the economy. There’s a reason why income taxes were so low in Southern Rhodesia. Only states that mainly collect revenue from royalties can pull off that fiscal trick.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  181. Malla says:
    @denk

    They dont call India the ‘USA of South Asia’ for nuthin you know ?

    And what is strange is that the vast majority of the people in India know nothing about all this, most live in a cocoon. Thanks to the domestic media all controlled by the Indian secret services. On paper, we have a free media, turn on the TV and you see 100s of local channels but all of them show the same controlled propaganda from the deep state. There are some fake opposition channels like NDTV who are a bit less right wing. The media is rabble rousing our people for a war with China and most Indians are all gung ho and chest beating about defeating and conquering China. And these most Indians scare me, they are crazy, total nuts with zero general knowledge bout the world. The globalists using the hardcore Hindu fundamentalists as agents, are preparing us for some WW3 scenario. God save us.
    In the USA, most muricans at least have heard of the CIA and have a vague idea about them, same with the British and MI6 or Russians and KGB. But in India, most Indians have never even heard about RAW. They are more likely to have heard of the Israeli Mossad or Pakistani ISI than our own RAW. But ask a Nepali, Pakistani, Bhutanese, Bangladeshi or a Sri Lankan and most of them have heard of the RAW, make all kind of conspiracy theories about RAW (half of them most probably are true), similar to how Arabs view the Mossad.

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  182. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Hong Kong has more people per mile than India but it’s lifestyle is much better, so what does that have to do with anything?

    • Replies: @Malla
  183. Malla says:
    @Truth

    HongKong was a British Colony till very recently and its lifestyle is much much better than Africa, so what does colonialism has to do with any poverty? It is better than Liberia which was never colonized, so I guess we can conclude that European colonization was a boon.

  184. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    Sikkim was absorbed. Nepal has not been. Neither has Bhutan. The royal family wasn’t massacred in Sikkim by one of their relatives or by anyone else.

    • Replies: @Malla
  185. Art Deco says:
    @Anonymous

    The existing online data goes back to 1984, when the share of merchandise exports was 17%. There has been a gradual increase over the last 30 years, which is not surprising in a country declining economically. The country was under economic sanctions from 1965 to 1980. The Minerals Yearbook for 1981 has some statistics on production volumes from the 1970s, but not export sales.

  186. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    which by many measures is in worse shape than Africa.

    Only a clown like you can make a claim like that. India has sent spaceship to Mars, Mangalyaan. Backward Africa cannot ever be compared to India. LOL

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  187. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    That is because, Nepal and Bhutan had already attained a place in the UN. That is exactly what the Raw guy wrote in his book, that, lets get Sikkim before they get a seat in the UN too. The Chogyal of Sikkim made a mistake in not pushing for a UN seat earlier.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  188. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Sierra Leone average of 91.

    More like 64, LOL. you smoke good crack.

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

    All African countries have IQ scores less than India.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  189. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    India, which by many measures is in worse shape than Africa.

    Not true.

    India has been quite dynamic economically since about 1990. Real income per capita has more than trebled in that time and exceeds that of every country in Tropical Africa bar a couple of places with natural resource bonanzas relying on the rents. It is behind the five subtropical states (which are, however, more dependent on fuel and mineral exports). Large swaths of Tropical Africa are stagnant. South Africa is not, but vis a vis the advanced countries is less affluent than it was 40 years ago.

    Adult literacy rates in India are about 70% or so (v. the 60% which now prevails in Subsaharan Africa) and youth literacy is now above 85%.

    Life expectancy at birth is now 68 years in India (v. 60 years in Subsaharan Africa on average).

    At the time of the partition, India experienced horrendous violence. Since then, it has experienced episodic and peripheral political violence (Assam at one point, the Punjab at another, Kashmir chronically). In Africa you’ve had repeated instances of wars of a scale or durability that is odd in India (Eastern Nigeria (1967-70), Chad (1963-8?), the Sudan (1955-72, 1983-2011, 2016-, Uganda (1979-85), Angola (1961-2002), Mozambique (1961-75). You’ve had instances where the state largely disappeared (Somalia, 1991-; the Congo, 1997-, Central African Republic). Africa’s seen some improvements in its political order since 1990, to be sure. However, no part of the 3d world has a record like India’s: over a century of experience with electoral institutions, 70 years of parliamentary government with only one (18 month) interruption, and no history of military rule at all. The country has also made incremental improvements in the quality of political life. The dominant status of the Indian National Congress has dissipated and the Nehru scions have been less-and-less consequential.

    Please note that our single best guess is that homicide rates in India are 1/4 those in Subsharan Africa and 1/9th those in South Africa specifically.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  190. Art Deco says:
    @Wade

    What with their stranglehold over all media in the west and all it’s hard to avoid.

    This is a fantasy.

    There were about 40,000 Jews in South Africa 30 years ago. They weren’t an important influence.

  191. Malla says:
    @Malla

    From

    https://blog.com.np/2013/01/31/the-pain-of-losing-a-nation-story-of-lhendup-dorji-and-sikkim/

    So much so that the Kazi was ignored even by Delhi. “I went out of my way to ensure the merger of Sikkim into India but after the work was done, the Indians just ignored me”, Kazi told me during an interview for Jana Astha weekly, nearly 11 years ago. “Earlier, I used to be given a ‘Red Carpet’ welcome. Now I have to wait for weeks even to meet second grade leaders.”

    When I visited Kalimpong for the second time in 2000, Lhendup’s anger towards Delhi had reached new heights. At one time, he was received warmly by Indian leaders including Jawaharlal Nehru and Mrs Indira Gandhi. But later he became a political actor whose utility had been finished and thrown away into the dustbin.

    The Origin of Crisis

    After India got independence in 1947, the Sikkim State Congress, which was established as per the advice of Nehru, launched anti-King movement. Sikkim managed to overcome the crisis then but after Indira Gandhi became Prime Minister of India, the tiny Himalayan kingdom found itself in a crisis from which it could never escape. The anti-King movement, launched by the Sikkim National Congress (SNC) under the leadership of Lhendup Dorji in 1973, led to the demise of a sovereign nation.

    India openly supported the movement against King (Chogyal) Palden Thondup Namgyal. The then ADC to the King, Captain Sonam Yongda, claimed that soldiers of Indian Army in civil dress used to take part in the protests. Some of the protesters were brought from Darjeeling and the surrounding areas. The number of Sikkimese who took part in the protest was quite small. But that was enough.

    Lhendup’s protest movement depended mainly on Indian financial assistance. The money was made available through Intelligence Bureau (IB). “The people from IB used to visit me twice or thrice a year. An IB agent, Tejpal Sen, used to handover money to me personally”, Dorji had told me in a recorded interview.

    In fact, the main actor behind the ‘Mission Sikkim’ was India’s external intelligence agency, RAW (Research and Analysis Wing). Set up in 1968, RAW was able to disintegrate Pakistan (and form Bangladesh) within three years. The annexation of Sikkim was their other ‘historic’ success. The strategists of RAW didn’t want to repeat a Bhutan in Sikkim. Bhutan managed to acquire the membership of the United Nations in 1968. So, they launched a movement under the leadership of Lhendup, which is described at great length by Ashok Raina in his book Inside RAW: The Story of India’s Secret Service.

    Raina writes that New Delhi had taken the decision to annex Sikkim in 1971, and that the RAW used the next two years to create the right conditions within Sikkim to make that happen. The key here was to use the predominantly-Hindu Sikkimese of Nepali origin who complained of discrimination from the Buddhist king and the elite to rise up. “What we felt then was that the Chogyal was unjust to us”, said CD Rai, editor of Gangtok Times and ex-minister. “We thought it may be better to be Indian than to be oppressed by the king.”

    Lhendup – who belonged to the Kazi family – had a historic enmity with Sikkim’s ruling Chogyals. He said he wanted to pressurise the King through public protests but lamented that the King never came forward for reconciliation.

    Under pressure from Delhi, the Sikkimese King was forced to hold tripartite talks with SNC and India. The talks not only curtailed royal powers, it also turned Sikkim into an Indian ‘protectorate’. In the elections held in 1974, Lhendup’s SNC got overwhelming majority in the parliament. The government and the king saw each other as enemies. Ultimately, the cabinet meeting, on 27th March 1975, decided to abolish monarchy. The Sikkimese parliament endorsed it and decided to hold a referendum on the future of monarchy. Four days later, the outcome of the poll in 57 stations across the country was: ‘Abolition of the monarchy’.

    In an interview, then Agriculture Minister of Sikkim KC Pradhan recalled that the referendum was nothing but a charade. “Indian soldiers rigged the polls by pointing rifles at the hapless voters”, he said. Immediately after the referendum, Kazi Lhendup moved a motion in the parliament proposing that Sikkim be annexed to India. The 32-member parliament, which had 31 members from Lhendup’s SNC – passed the motion without a blink. Needless to say that the entire episode was being orchestrated by India. The then Indian envoy to Sikkim (known as ‘political officer’) BS Das wrote in his book The Sikkim Saga, “Sikkim’s merger was necessary for Indian national interest. And we worked to that end. Maybe if the Chogyal had been smarter, and played his cards better, it wouldn’t have turned out the way it did.”

  192. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    AQ has always been an extension of CIA/MI6/Mossad/Saudi intelligence. Same with so called ISIS.

    Yeah, and John Kennedy was brought down by the military-industrial complex subcontracting the job to a bunch of French Quarter homosexuals. Take it somewhere else, please.

  193. Art Deco says:
    @denk

    CIA/RAW has a track record of hundreds of coups since ww2 alone, China has none, zero, nade, zilch.

    Only if you fancy they’ve been responsible for all of them. (You couldn’t name five where that was actually true).

    • Replies: @denk
  194. Art Deco says:
    @denk

    every Nepalese and his dog believes CIA/RAW conspired to kill king Birendra,

    I don’t give a damn what sort of fantasies are prevalent in Nepal. They can take responsibility for their political problems or they can be dicks. They suffer for it, not me.

    • Replies: @denk
  195. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    East Indians amounted to 1% of the population of Tanganyika and not much more in Uganda. They wielded ‘disproportionate economic power’ because they had skills the natives did not. There is no ‘power structure’ responsible for that, and, in any case, they’re now inconsequential in East Africa. If your skills actually had been systematically undervalued by Indian proprietors in 1955, you’d have taken your skills elsewhere (by starting your own enterprises).

    Quit making excuses for yourself and being recriminatory toward others, and maybe you will get somewhere.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  196. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    So what? The UN had no apparatus of coercion.

  197. denk says:
    @Malla

    Mumbai ‘terrorists’ attack

    I know , India’s own 911.
    Just like the 911 of their murkkan soul mates, the Indian official story leaks like a sieve.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-betrayal-of-india-the-2611-2008-mumbai-attacks/5604145

  198. denk says:
    @Art Deco

    I don’t give a damn what sort of fantasies are prevalent in Nepal.

    ‘fantasy’ like this……?

    Insider info !

    http://www.telegraphnepal.com/headline/2014-05-19/seizure-of-nepal-averted-due-to-indias-inner-strife-claims-ex-raw-officer.html

    ‘They can take responsibility for their political problems or they can be dicks. [sic]
    They suffer for it, not me. ‘

    Hey sonny ,
    The Nepalese sure wanna mind their own business ….
    If only some dicks would leave them alone !

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-ways-India-has-been-hostile-towards-Nepal

    [Not for 'art deco', that dick obviously doesnt give a fuck. !]

    For those interested,
    Read ‘anon’s answer in that quora thread, its the most compreshensive history.

    They dont call India the ‘Unitedsnake of South Asia‘ for nuthin you know ?

    hhhhhhh

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  199. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Only a clown like you can make a claim like that. India has sent spaceship to Mars, Mangalyaan. Backward Africa cannot ever be compared to India. LOL

    Maybe a third world shithole like India should’t be screwing around trying to fly to Mars. It has more pressing concerns.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  200. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    More like 64, LOL. you smoke good crack.

    Sierra Leone’s IQ is 91. That’s almost a full standard deviation higher than India’s.

    https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

    • Replies: @Malla
  201. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    India is the slave capital of the world.

    India is the open defecation capital of the world.

    India is the rape capital of the world.

    Indians are actually poorer per capita than Sub-Saharan Africans.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  202. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Didn’t Kamal Hassan make a (rather silly) movie about RAW a few years back?

    • Replies: @Malla
  203. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    They wielded ‘disproportionate economic power’ because they had skills the natives did not

    That’s because British colonialists set them up to run industries. Blacks were literally prohibited from rising above a certain low-level station.

    If your skills actually had been systematically undervalued by Indian proprietors in 1955, you’d have taken your skills elsewhere (by starting your own enterprises).

    The British ran the country as a quasi-Apartheid state. Blacks could not just pick up and start their own enterprise. Are you daft?

    Quit making excuses for yourself and being recriminatory toward others, and maybe you will get somewhere.

    First of all, I’m not a Ugandan. Secondly, I’m not making any excuses. I’m simply stating that Ugandans would be better off without Indians, as they have been an exploitative, subversive, racist force that are ultimately more trouble than they’re worth. Who the hell would want a small tribe of racists that detest them to have economic control in their country? You wouldn’t, so why would you expect Africans to put up with it?

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Art Deco
  204. Art Deco says:
    @denk

    Yes, fantasies. Nepal is a poor and isolated country that has some hydroelectric power. That’s it. It has no history of conflicts with the United States that anyone but some nellies in the Foreign Service would notice or care about. Discernable marginal benefit from having one brother or another on the throne nil. Empirical evidence for said fantasy, nil.

  205. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    Secondly, I’m not making any excuses. I

    Stop your lying. The whole point of your gassy blather is that this tiny minority grew contextually affluent through trickery or some occult ‘uplift’ from the colonial administration and did so at the expense of the native population.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  206. Art Deco says:

    as they have been an exploitative, subversive,

    Again, this is a nonsense statement derived from Marxist twaddle.

  207. Malla says:
    @Anon

    I am not aware of it. Was it in Tamil??

    • Replies: @Anon
  208. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    It has more pressing concerns

    We will take care of that after Africa sends a spaceship to Mars. Oh no, that will never happen, I take that back.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Truth
  209. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    From

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

    Estraneo. Amazing! IQs cluster by race.

    Prodigy. I would like to take credit for this discovery, but unfortunately it has been known for many years. The only debate among scholars now concerns how much of IQ is heritable.

    Estraneo. What race are “others?”

    Prodigy. Various. Indians, Latin Americans, Pacific Islanders, Middle Easterners, other Asians, etc. Many of these countries have racially or ethnically heterogeneous populations.

    Estraneo. Why have you switched IQ units in Figure 2?

    Prodigy. Standard units are convenient. Each observation is expressed in terms of the number of standard deviations from the mean. With a mean IQ of 100, and a standard deviation of 15, for example, IQs of 85, 100, 115 and 130 become in standard units: -1, 0, 1 and 2, respectively, etc.

    Estraneo. One other point. Am I wrong or are the four East Asian points displaced from the trend line?

    Prodigy. You are correct. The four, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong, all with homogeneous populations, have the highest IQs reported here. We might therefore expect them to be among the wealthiest of nations. Their numbers, especially those of Taiwan and South Korea, however, tell another story.
    Country Avg IQ per cap GDP
    Hong Kong 107 20,763
    South Korea 106 13,478
    Japan 105 23,257
    Taiwan 104 13,000

    With average IQs of 104 and 106, respectively, per capita GDPs of about $13,000 seem much too low for Taiwan and South Korea.
    Estraneo. Hold on. There are a number of other nations whose GDP is much lower than expected. Why single out these four?

    Prodigy. Because they form a distinct cluster of racially similar peoples. Each has a mostly homogeneous population. Though small, the group stands apart as a unit.

    We cannot draw firm conclusions based on four points. The observations do, however, raise questions about East Asian achievement. IQ alone does not determine wealth. Perhaps East Asians are wanting in other attributes. Or, maybe there are aspects of Eastern culture that undercut creativity. These questions need to be investigated. The East Asian anomaly might well be an artifact, but for now the issue remains unresolved.

    Mentor. There is another interesting feature on your graph, Prodigy. Per capita GDP in black countries seems nearly independent of IQ.

    Prodigy. I noticed that too, Mentor, and computed a correlation coefficient for the 15 black nations as a group. The result, 0.034, confirms your observation. It seems there is an IQ threshold to be reached before a country can get off the ground economically. None of the black nations has yet reached this threshold. Here are the black-nation data.

    Country Avg IQ
    Zambia 77
    Congo 73
    Uganda 73
    Sudan 72
    Jamaica 72
    Kenya 72
    Tanzania 72
    Ghana 71
    Nigeria 67
    Zimbabwe 66
    Guinea 66
    Congo 65
    Sierra Leone 64
    Ethiopia 63
    Equatorial Guinea 59

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  210. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    From

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-launch-india-idUSKBN19E0JF

    “India sends 31 satellites into space, some for foreign customers
    Vipin Das M

    3 Min Read

    NEW DELHI (Reuters) – India fired a rocket carrying 31 small satellites into space on Friday, several of them for European countries, in a boost to Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ambition to project the country as a global low-cost provider of services in space.
    India’s Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) C38, carrying Cartosat-2 and 30 other satellites, lifts off from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, India, June 23, 2017. REUTERS/P. Ravikumar

    The Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) launched a 712 kg Cartosat-2 satellite for earth observation and 30 other tiny satellites from Sriharikota in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh at 9.29 a.m. (0359GMT).

    The rocket is carrying satellites from India and 14 other countries, including Austria, Belgium, Latvia, Lithuania and Slovakia, as part of an international commercial arrangement by the state-run Indian Space Research Organisation. (ISRO)

    The satellites will be used for communications, weather forecasting and monitoring crops.”

    After reading this you might need some cream to heal yourself as you burn with jealousy. I can smell the smoke already.

    • Replies: @Malla
  211. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    We will take care of that after Africa sends a spaceship to Mars. Oh no, that will never happen, I take that back.

    Hopefully, Africans won’t be dumb enough to pursue these vanity projects with money that is better spent on earth. Rational Indians feel as I do that the country should focus on draining the cesspool at home rather than trying to reach for the stars. I mean, how difficult is it to steal or borrow tech and hire Russian, Chinese or even American aerospace engineers? Botswana could do it if they were that dumb. Nigeria does space shots. If they wanted to spend more money they could shoot for Mars. They already have the infrastructure.

    You don’t understand, these things that have already been done by trailblazing countries like the USA and Russia don’t require anything at this point other than funding.

    • Replies: @Malla
  212. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Mo smoke, mo cream. LOL

    From

    https://www.isro.gov.in/pslv-c37-successfully-launches-104-satellites-single-flight

    PSLV-C37 Successfully Launches 104 Satellites in a Single Flight

    “In its thirty ninth flight (PSLV-C37), ISRO’s Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle successfully launched the 714 kg Cartosat-2 Series Satellite along with 103 co-passenger satellites today morning (February 15, 2017) from Satish Dhawan Space Centre SHAR, Sriharikota. This is the thirty eighth consecutively successful mission of PSLV. The total weight of all the 104 satellites carried on-board PSLV-C37 was 1378 kg.

    PSLV-C37 lifted off at 0928 hrs (9:28 am) IST, as planned, from the First Launch Pad. After a flight of 16 minutes 48 seconds, the satellites achieved a polar Sun Synchronous Orbit of 506 km inclined at an angle of 97.46 degree to the equator (very close to the intended orbit) and in the succeeding 12 minutes, all the 104 satellites successfully separated from the PSLV fourth stage in a predetermined sequence beginning with Cartosat-2 series satellite, followed by INS-1 and INS-2. The total number of Indian satellites launched by PSLV now stands at 46.

    After separation, the two solar arrays of Cartosat-2 series satellite were deployed automatically and ISRO’s Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC) at Bangalore took over the control of the satellite. In the coming days, the satellite will be brought to its final operational configuration following which it will begin to provide remote sensing services using its panchromatic (black and white) and multispectral (colour) cameras.

    Of the 103 co-passenger satellites carried by PSLV-C37, two – ISRO Nano Satellite-1 (INS-1) weighing 8.4 kg and INS-2 weighing 9.7 kg – are technology demonstration satellites from India.

    The remaining 101 co-passenger satellites carried were international customer satellites from USA (96), The Netherlands (1), Switzerland (1), Israel (1), Kazakhstan (1) and UAE (1). “

  213. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    That’s a fraudulent list, dummy. Figures that someone like you would accept it at face value.

  214. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Nobody has sent a spaceship anywhere, Old Boy, that’s all a hoax.

    • Replies: @Malla
  215. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Hopefully, Africans won’t be dumb enough to pursue these vanity projects with money that is better spent on earth

    LOL, since you cannot do it, it becomes dumb. LOL. Reminds me of a famous tale, oh the fox and the sour grapes. Yeah…

    Well one African country tried in the past. In typical black fashion, did some chest thumping about equaling and outdoing the United States and the Soviet Union!

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-zambian-afronaut-who-wanted-to-join-the-space-race

    Wonder where it all went. All talk, gas, posing and chest thumping and no substance.

  216. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Yeah I have came across those theories about the moon landing and stuff. But you cannot deny that at least satellites have been sent into space, or else how would GPS and many other technologies work? Even if say the Mars mission was a hoax, India has become an expert in making complicated satellite launches.

    • Replies: @Truth
  217. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    Indians are actually poorer per capita than Sub-Saharan Africans.

    No, they are not. As we speak, the World Bank estimates India’s GDP per capita at purchasing power parity to be $6,000 per annum (that would be in chained 2011 dollars). The weighted average of Sub-Saharan Africa is $3,440. India has also been economically dynamic the last generation, which Tropical and Southern Africa have not been.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  218. Malla says:

    More on the hero of black racists, Mugabe, LOL what a scum he is

    http://www.thezimbabwean.co/2016/10/how-mugabe-double-crossed-joseph-kabila-the-drc/

    In it we read

    Global Witness and others have done studies on this. Yet the story of looting of diamonds for the benefit of Mugabe and his security and military elite in Zimbabwe did not start with Marange diamonds and the missing $15 billion. Way before Marange, Mugabe and his military men had already started rampant racketeering, illegal mafia-style smuggling, double-crossing, double dealing, as well as illegal arms peddling with Congolese rebels. In fact, Mugabe double-crossed Kabila by selling arms to the rebels in exchange for diamonds used to enrich, not Zimbabwe, but Mugabe and his security men.

    Yeah, Mugabe is a man of morals. Invading a foreign country, taking part in the loot of it’s resources, racketeering, smuggling and also double crossing his ally Kabila. What a great hero!!!

    More

    The Congolese War

    In 1998, without approval from Zimbabwe’s parliament, Robert Mugabe made a sole decision to send Zimbabwe’s military to prop up Laurent Kabila’s struggling government under siege from various Tutsi erstwhile-friends-turned-rebel groups supported by Rwanda and Uganda (on the eastern side of the DRC border). It is not clear what motivated Mugabe’s DRC expedition, but it helps to theorise that he wanted to assert his pan-Africanist credentials. It is this dimension that makes this story interesting. So read on!

    Generally, people have short memories. This serves Mugabe well as he can now claim that Zimbabwe cannot get funding from the IMF and World Bank because of sanctions. I have covered why the IMF stopped funding Zimbabwe here http://bit.ly/1RqSLME. In short, Mugabe single-handedly took Zimbabwe into the DRC war in 1998, which cost Zimbabwean taxpayers $27 million a month and shortly afterwards failed to pay back IMF loans. The IMF reacted in 1999 by freezing a $193 million funding package and Mugabe’s response was: “The IMF should shut up its mouth. Yes, we have spent money in DRC, but we have not died because of that. We continue to be productive.” The IMF shut its mouth by stopping loans to Zimbabwe from then on.

    The nuts and bolts of the war were worked on by Mugabe and his close lieutenants, while on the DRC side, Laurent Kabila worked with loyalists like Mwenze Kongolo and then DRC Minister of Finance Mwampanga Mwana Nanga (who became DRC Ambassador in Zimbabwe). The war, which went on for several years was arguably the most prolonged war in modern African history involving scores of different armed groups and as many as nine African countries. Millions of people died in its aftermath and millions more displaced, making it the deadliest conflict since the Second World War.

    Most of the countries involved advanced the protection of their own borders as a reason for getting involved except Libya, Namibia and Zimbabwe. This was especially true of Rwanda, which had a few months earlier sponsored Laurent Kabila by supporting the Banyamulenge rebels leading to the ousting of Mobutu Sese Seko. Trouble had started when Kabila, smarting from accusations that he was a poodle for neighboring countries owing to the presence of many Rwandans at the top, sacked his Rwandan chief of staff, James Kabarebe.

    The unrelenting pan-Africanist?

    Robert Mugabe desires to be known as a Pan-Africanist. But is he deserving of being one? It’s an interesting question because he flies to the Middle and Far East for medical attention as medical facilities crumble in his country. Materials used to build his mansion were imported, including the entire roof and soft furnishings. His children attend school in foreign countries and pretty much have second homes outside Zimbabwe. But all this is besides the point. It just gives us pointers to understand someone’s record, digging into how his actual persona adds up to the persona he wants to portray.

    Yeah, so right Mugabe gets involved in the Congo crisis WITHOUT the approval of the parliament. Wastes his countries tax payers money, a whooping 27 million a month for his own greed and that of his cronies. So after being responsible for making Zimbabwe an economic disaster, to avert attention for his failings he started the whole farm invasion fiasco to appropriate the lands of the White Zimbabweans. That explains all the land invasions.
    You know what, I say some harsh things about Amin especially about what he did to the Ugandan Asians, about his childish antics and stupidity. But at least he had good intentions for his own country (at the start), he started by really wanting to do good for Uganda but things went out of hand very fast.
    Mugabe like a typical commie wanted to enrich himself and his cronies from the very start.

    More

    In stripping DRC resources, these military and security men were aided by shady but sleek and controversial business associates of all types: Thamer Bin Said Ahmed Alshanfari (an Omani national who fronted Oryx Natural Resources, the ZDF’s front for a 49% share in a diamond operation called Senga Mines, which attempted to list on the London Stock Exchange); Billy Rautenbach (who ran Gecamines, taking out copper and cobalt before being kicked out), John Arnold Bredenkamp (who at one point ran Gecamines after Rautenbach), Nico Sheffer (a convicted criminal based in South Africa whose company Tandan Holdings had a diamond joint venture with Zimbabwe Defence Forces – he arranged for Zimbabwean officers to be trained in diamond valuation in Johannesburg). Niko Shefer was in the spotlight in Zimbabwe recently for receiving nearly half a million dollars every month for facilitating a Development Bank of Southern Africa $206million to refurbish a highway connecting the towns of Plumtree and Mutare – connect the dots on how he got the deal!

    Several companies were either created or roped in, in the looting spree. These include Oryx Natural Resources (fronted by Al Shanfari), First Banking Corporation (now FBC Bank), Dube Associates (run by Colonel Tshinga Dube then of the Zimbabwe Defence Industries and linked to the Ukrainian prolific diamond and arms trafficker Leonid Minim, based in Kasai Occidental), Ridgepointe International (fronted by Rautenbach).

    Members of the elite network running joint ventures were linked to the smuggling of precious metals and gems, arms trafficking, illegal foreign exchange trading and money-laundering. Months after this report, and after several peace accords, Zimbabwe scaled down its troops in 2002. At the same time, following the assassination of Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila replaced most of the leadership of state-owned mines, which scaled back significantly the looting activities of the security elites and their joint ventures.

    So this hero of Africa according to Okechukwu, looted out another African country and was definitely partially responsible for extending that conflict which ended up becoming an African version of WW1, as many neighbouring countries were involved. Some of the countries like, Angola or Rwanda, one can understand, they had some strategic reasons or rebel factions to attack. There was NO reason for Mugabe to enter the conflict except naked greed. He is a hero for racist blacks only because he attacked Whites, that is all they care about. It does not matter to these racists that he was responsible for the death of so many Congolese which was not necessary. He collaborated with rich globalist Whites and Jews and Arabs but attacked politically weak Whites and ended up responsible for killing many black people

    Lets read more

    Nothing to show for the millions

    All of Mugabe’s men have nothing to show which is useful for public good that they built with the proceeds of illegal arms trafficking and diamond smuggling. This is with the distinct exception of Zvinavashe, who poured some of his proceeds into building infrastructure of use to Zimbabweans. Zvinavashe built an elementary school and a high school in Harare. The rest of them have nothing to show except plush mansions (in which they barely spend a third of each day) as well as secret deposits offshore.

    Zimbabwe’s former colonists may have been vile, but they invested in infrastructure – building highways, water purification plants, bridges, dams, power plants and railways infrastructure. Large iconic bridges in Zimbabwe such as Victoria Falls Bridge, Beitbridge, Birchenough Bridge (third longest single-arch suspension bridge in the world in 1935) and the first Chirundu Bridge – formerly Otto Beit Bridge (the first modern suspension bridge outside the United States built in 1939), were build using money from fortune seekers like Alfred Beit (The second Chirundu Bridge – a few meters from the first, was built by Kajima Corporation in 2002 using funds from Japan International Corporation Agency).

    One should read the entire article in the link as there is a lot of info there. So you see, black racists only care about the fact that he wrongly attacked White Zimbabweans (only to take away attention from his disastrous handling of Zimbabwe due to personal greed), they ignore or do not care about his actions in the Congo as well in his native Zimbabwe where he sent death squads to kill Ndebele.

    • Replies: @Malla
  219. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Some comments from that link above

    JongweRachembera 5/10/2016 | 12:54

    The UN is a waste of space. Mugabe out foxed everyone especially the people of Zimbabwe. Mugabe is a master of deception and he is right about one thing, there is no one smarter than him in Zimbabwe because if there was he wouldn’t still be in power. Sometimes a nation deserves the leaders they get. Removing Mugabe is now a redundant idea. Mugabe is not the problem, Zimbabweans are the problem we are our own stumbling block because we are too quick to make a plan and work around the Zanu pf tyranny. The harder things get the more we make a plan and Zanu pf are let off the hook by default. Zimbabweans are often described as docile, a handful of people protest while the majority stand by and watch. Example, the two uni students who held small placards asking for jobs at their graduation that Mugabe officiated were whisked away by Mugabe security men and the protesting students were merely watched by their colleagues who will also be entering a jobless, job market. Why did they not all stand with their protesting colleagues one asks. With all that higher education they did not have the common sense to stand with their fellow students and confront Mugabe peacefully.

    Nomusa Garikai 5/10/2016 | 10:36

    What President Mugabe has been doing in the DRC is unforgivable and we must all be ashamed of it!

    Was it not bad enough that President Mugabe has shed the blood of so many innocent Zimbabweans without him gallivanting and shedding even more innocent blood in other countries and stealing their wealth! I never thought I would say this but this must be said because it is the right and only course of action – President Mugabe and his cronies must face the music for what they have these last 36 years!

    President Mugabe is the one whose has moaned to no end about the West interfering in other nations’ affairs; what does he think he was doing in the DRC? What right did he have in throwing petrol at DRC’s civil war fire!

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  220. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Probably, though iirc it was partly set in the US.

  221. denk says:
    @Art Deco

    Only if you fancy they’ve been responsible for all of them. (You couldn’t name five where that was actually true).

    Five ?
    off hand I could recall FIFTY !

    https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

    Tip of an iceberg/

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  222. denk says:
    @Malla

    Why do Indians enjoy being the perenial sepoys,
    Ever since the ‘eight nations alliance’. ?

    India ought to grow some back bone, seek solidarity with fellow developing countries like China/Africa etc to counter western imperialism, instead of forever sucking up to its white masters !

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  223. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    India far poorer than Africa, new measure shows

    MORE of the world’s poor live in eight Indian states than in the 26 poorest African countries, according to a new UN-backed measure of poverty.

    The Multidimensional Poverty Index looks beyond income at a wider range of household-level deprivation factors, including services, which could then be used to help target development resources. Its findings throw up stark statistics compared with regular poverty measures.

    The study found that half of the world’s MPI poor people live in South Asia, and just over a quarter in Africa.

    There are 421 million MPI-poor people in eight Indian states alone – Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal – while there are 410 million in the 26 poorest African countries combined.

    Madhya Pradesh state, with a population of 70 million, had almost identical poverty levels as the wartorn Democratic Republic of Congo, which is home to 62 million people.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/india-far-poorer-than-africa-new-measure-shows/news-story/8bf326de3c7da4ea1f9472ef80328841

  224. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Stop spamming the board with bullshit. At this point I don’t think anyone’s wading through your incoherent Indian supremacist, white ass licking uncle tom buffoonery.

    • Replies: @Malla
  225. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    Colonial British policy was designed to create a permanent black servant class in Uganda, with Indians above the blacks and with whites above the Indians. It was an Apartheid system that greatly favored Indians over native Africans. This is not in dispute. Little wonder that Africans wanted to uproot that system. The surest way being to deport the Indians, who were particularly venal, unscrupulous and racist.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  226. Truth says:
    @Malla

    There are no satellites, it’s all ground-based antennas. All bullshit. If it wasn’t, howcome everytime someone goes missing they have send helicopters to search for them, instead of just focusing in from 100 miles in the sky with satellites that are already there.

    There ain’t no outer space, nobody has ever been on the moon and the “universe” is geocentric not heliocentric.

    The interesting thing is that they always tell you about the hoax with a little “wink-wink” while it is happening.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/indias-mars-mission-cheaper-making-4314952

    “India’s Mars mission: cheaper than making a film about space”

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  227. Art Deco says:
    @denk

    off hand I could recall FIFTY !

    No, you cannot.

  228. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    Colonial British policy was designed to create a permanent black servant class in Uganda, with Indians above the blacks and with whites above the Indians. I

    No, British colonial policy was designed to secure their rule over Uganda and make the territory profitable for Britain. Secondary schools for this ‘black servant class’ were established as early as 1895 and tertiary schooling arrived in 1922. East Indian populations in Natal and East Africa arrived as coolies.

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  229. Malla says:
    @denk

    All nations are sepoys in one way or the other. Sepoys of the globalist bankers. Even White nations are.

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  230. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Stop spamming the board with bullshit.

    Stop wasting everyones time on Unz with your bullshit. Unz is not a place for idiot clowns like you

    At this point I don’t think anyone’s wading through your incoherent

    You are and you always will.

    your incoherent Indian supremacist, white ass licking uncle tom buffoonery

    LOL, the truth makes you very uncomfortable, I see.

  231. Malla says:
    @denk

    seek solidarity with fellow developing countries like China/Africa etc to counter western imperialism

    Western imperialism vs Africa/China is all fake, fake opposition.

  232. Malla says:
    @Truth

    instead of just focusing in from 100 miles in the sky with satellites that are already there.

    Maybe all satellites do not have that kind of optical resolution. There are different satellites with different functions. One cannot guarantee that there would a satellite with such optical capabilities over the area where the person is lost, the planet is too huge. It is cheaper and more practical to use helicopters.

    Besides, they have to use CGI to show the Mars orbiter because how will the mars orbiter take a selfie of itself in outer space?

    There ain’t no outer space, nobody has ever been on the moon and the “universe” is geocentric not heliocentric.

    Though I have come across these theories and am open to the possibility, am still not convinced.

    “India’s Mars mission: cheaper than making a film about space”

    Hollywood movies are become too expensive by the day and things are much cheaper in India. Indeed my cousin worked in a firm which supplied missile parts to DRDO (makes missiles and weapons for India). As far as I know his firm made them and supplied them. As far as I know there was no conspiracy involved there.

  233. Okechukwu says:
    @Art Deco

    No, British colonial policy was designed to secure their rule over Uganda and make the territory profitable for Britain. Secondary schools for this ‘black servant class’ were established as early as 1895 and tertiary schooling arrived in 1922. East Indian populations in Natal and East Africa arrived as coolies.

    Indians were perfectly content to be second class citizens as long as blacks were below them. They did not aspire to any higher station or to equality with the white man. They were not all coolies. Many arrived with British colonialists to do skilled and semi-skilled work. They were paid salaries which they used to start businesses.

    Aspiring black entrepreneurs were forbidden to engage in business so as not to compete with Indians. Furthermore, those blacks that did somehow get into commerce were required to go through Indian middlemen as a matter of British law. In business, going through middlemen is a recipe for disaster. The added cost alone can kill transactions.

    Banks didn’t lend to Africans. In any event, the colonial government wouldn’t issue wholesale trade licences to Africans, as they were reserved for Indians.

    Don’t forget that these policies were formulated when the Europeans colonialists thought they would hold their colonies forever. As such, the British found Indians to be a docile, obsequious people that they could use to perform needed tasks that would allow them to keep Africans poor, ignorant and unskilled, thereby forestalling potential revolution.

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  234. Malla says:

    Furthermore, those blacks that did somehow get into commerce were required to go through Indian middlemen as a matter of British law

    Prove it.

    As such, the British found Indians to be a docile, obsequious people

    LOL. Asian gangs are kicking black ass every day in the UK.
    The British fought Sikhs, Marathas, Pathans, Gurkhas, Rajputs in India. The Mughal army unleashed on Africa would have easily conquered the entire continent. How would they consider us docile?
    More gas out of your stinky ass.

    Banks didn’t lend to Africans.

    Banks always want to do business but they do not lend to ‘high risk customers’. This is how banks run even today.

  235. Malla says:

    that would allow them to keep Africans poor, ignorant and unskilled, thereby forestalling potential revolution.

    Yet it was our independence struggle which inspired similar movements in Africa. Without the Indian Independence movement, it is doubtful Africa would have been decolonized.

    https://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/pdf/ess_africadevel.pdf&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjyuNuNzfrXAhXHwI8KHbgdBuwQFggxMAQ&usg=AOvVaw3JhvJ0LVKv7Z6yYoFXUN3e

    India’s independence in 1947 inspired nationalist movements and provided a model for
    decolonization and independence all over the world.

    The presence of Indians in Uganda would have been dangerous as such ideas would easily spread to the Indian community around the world as we Indians have one of the best mercantile communication networks from ancient times. Why would the British want us to be successful?

    https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-effects-of-the-Indian-independence-on-other-countries-across-the-globe

    Once India gone, they lost a major source of revenue using which they were using to rule the other colonies. Moreover, India’s freedom acted like a catalyst for them to demand freedom. Pretty soon the British had to lose the colonies too, reducing the once mighty kingdom to a humble island.

    Probably the most sustained effect was the way India earned freedom – lead by Gandhi and other leaders. It showed the world that a war could be fought spiritually also, without violence. It inspired the leaders elsewhere in the world, most probably Martin Luthar King and Nelson Mandela being the most prominent.

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    , @Art Deco
  236. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    All nations are sepoys in one way or the other. Sepoys of the globalist bankers. Even White nations are.

    Finance accounts for about 7% of gross domestic product in the United States (in some countries it’s less, in some countries it’s more). It’s also deconcentrated enough to make collusion between service providers a challenge. It is, in addition, larded with compliance costs (in America and elsewhere) and subject to a regulatory regime which gives public inspectorates tools that no other sectoral regulator has.

  237. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    The sum of today’s nominal domestic products of those dependencies currently retained and those dependencies relinquished after 1900 expressed as a % of the nominal domestic product of the metropole this day:

    1. Italy: 1.8%
    2. United States: 2.2%
    3. Belgium: 10%
    4. France: 33%
    5. Portugal: 73%
    6. Britain: 261%

    So, Britain’s portfolio of dependencies was much more consequential to the metropole than the rest’s. Now, the income streams of quondam British dependencies are distributed as follows:

    India: 38.4%
    Far East: 14.5%
    Africa: 14%
    Gulf Emirates: 9.4%
    Arab states, misc.: 9.4%
    Israel: 4.6%
    Ireland: 4.3%
    Caribbean: 1%
    Miscellany: 1%

    Not much different with France. Quondam French dependencies in Africa account for about 22% of the domestic product of the whole portfolio of quondam French dependencies (whereas Arab states account for 46% and the Far East 31%).

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    , @Malla
  238. Art Deco says:
    @Okechukwu

    Aspiring black entrepreneurs were forbidden to engage in business so as not to compete with Indians.

    Your head is filled with fictions. The British government made extensive use of African authorities in governing Uganda. Here’s an account:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=tgMrBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=British+policy+in+uganda+business+licensing&source=bl&ots=JUlYOjN3oA&sig=tv9NxDxA3yUFLUZJAy6Ek5z3QX0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje9Yj56PrXAhVJOSYKHSFQCJQQ6AEIXzAJ#v=snippet&q=indian&f=false

    There isn’t one mention of pigmentocratic business licensing (bar, of course, that enacted during the Obote era to promote African merchants at the expense of Indian merchants).

    Here’s an account of industrial development which incorporates a discussion of the colonial era. Same deal.

    https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/L2C_WP9_Obwona-et-al.pdf

  239. Art Deco says:
    @Malla

    It showed the world that a war could be fought spiritually also, without violence.

    You have to be fighting an enemy which doesn’t have the stomach for a horrid bloodbath and makes a business case for its activities. You weren’t going to fight off the Red Army in Central Asia in 1920 ‘without violence’.

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    , @Malla
    , @Johann Ricke
  240. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    Thank you for this information. Since I do a lot of personal research on European colonial Empires, this is very useful.

  241. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    BTW do you have any such date on expenses on the dependencies?

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  242. Malla says:
    @Art Deco

    Yes. Thats true. British India was not the Soviet Union obviously. The British Government in general wanted to maintain it’s reputation of high moral standards and the global press had a greater access to British India than the Soviet Union. The press played a big part in Gandhi’s success. Gandhi was extremely media savvy.

  243. @Art Deco

    Your head is filled with fictions. The British government made extensive use of African authorities in governing Uganda.

    Nations come with founding myths. The American founding myth merely leaned on an excessively partial interpretation of the facts, while sparing the actual facts themselves. On average, African and Asian countries have no such compunction about facts. Whatever facts need to be invented to support their narrative is fine by them.

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  244. Malla says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Very true. Reminds me of the Macaulay fraud in India where wild claims were made about Thomas Macaulay who introduced Western Education in to India. Claims made by fundamentalist Hindutvas

    http://historydetox.com/the-macaulay-fraud/

    And also

    all that crazy anti-Japanese propaganda in China

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/21/inside-china-anti-japanese-tv-propaganda-dramas-ba/

    Or crazy Chinese claims about WW2

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-the-chinese-regime-gets-away-with-a-false-history-of-world-war-ii_1462791.html

    Or Indian Hindutva claims about ancient science

    http://www.frontline.in/science-and-technology/hindutvas-science-envy/article9049883.ece

    http://www.caravanmagazine.in/vantage/modern-science-ancient-texts

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