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Let us be clear on what free speech truly is. The words people speak, write, tweet; the beliefs they are known to hold, the flags they fly, the symbolic, non-violent ceremonies and rituals they enact, the insignia, paraphernalia, the goose-stepping, Hitler salutes they dick around with—all that is protected speech, licit in natural law.

So long as these oddities and idiosyncrasies, whether performed alone or in groups, thoughts harbored or shared in public—so long as no violence accompanies such speech or behavior (prohibited here is violence visited on animals as well); so long as mitts stop at the next man’s face: SPEECH. It’s all speech. It should be free, unfettered and as wild and as wanton as it can be.

Spoken, written, preached: Impolite and impolitic thoughts are nothing more than thought crimes which ought to be ferociously protected by a free people. By logical extension, any accusations of Naziism—if leveled at a belief system, rather than at palpable violent actions—is suspect.

Thoughts and words spoken or written that are not politically polite—for example, racism; Naziism—ought to retain protected status as speech beyond the adjudication of law-makers, bureaucrats, mediacrats, educrats and technocrats.

In fact, “In the current climate,” I had suggested—and considering the inherently paranoid style of American politics—it’s worth contemplating special protections for politically impolite, racist speech.”

In 1978, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) ‘took a controversial stand for free speech by defending a neo-Nazi group that wanted to march through the Chicago suburb of Skokie, where many Holocaust survivors lived.” As a free-speech absolutist, a term Elon Musk has revived, I long for the return of what I shall term here the Skokie Standard of free speech and thinking.

In 2022, the once-grand ACLU, however, no longer vigorously defends marginalized speakers and thinkers. Instead, the ACLU defrauds the public about its mission, devoting its resources to the well-popularized causes of the Left’s privileged populations: LGBTQ demands, illegal immigrant claims-making, seekers of abortion-on-tap, looters of property and destroyers of peace and prosperity (in Orwellian speak, “peaceful protesters”).

Thus, other than that the Azov Battalion, a special unit in the Ukrainian military, is oriented toward the ethnic, white Ukrainian nation; other than that Azov insignia and iconography are rooted in national socialism or Naziism—I did not immediately detect evidence in Nebojsa Malic’s well-researched RT piece, “Western media clubs together to white-wash Ukrainian Neo-Nazis,” that the Azov are currently, actively and violently expunging groups such as, say Jews or Roma, based on typically Nazi eugenic ideation.

Azov’s symbols appear to be Nazi, but their actions appear to be merely nationalist, namely a quest to keep Ukraine Ukrainian.

I therefore questioned, during the Hard Truth broadcast, the Nazi designation attached to the Azov Brigade, suggesting that, if Azov are not engaged in acts of violence against the traditional Nazi victims and other ethnics, and are merely a military battalion fighting in the Russia-Ukraine military theater—then the Nazi insignia and paraphernalia are irrelevant. These symbols then fall into the category of ritualistic, offensive speech—thought crimes—the kind for which the Left criminalizes the Right.

This I say despite the fact that, as a longtime critic of American foreign policy, my sympathies here are firmly on the Russian side. Putin’s war in Ukraine is a war for which there are plenty reasons, all of them vindicating Russia (although such a statement must be qualified by saying that reasons for war are not the same as justification for war. A war of aggression is seldom justified).

Since the American Left is forever criminalizing the Right for thought crimes, pro-Russia sympathies notwithstanding, principle is paramount. It will not do to expediently visit the same on the Azov, namely vilifying the brigade for thought crimes.

Moreover, if to believe “the Empire of Lies,” to use Putin’s term for the United States in his epic pre-war address, Russia claimed it went to war to cleanse Ukraine of Nazis. There is little truth in this, however. For where is this emphasized in Putin’s speech? It isn’t. The Nazi ruse is near-redundant, sort of an afterthought in Putin’s cogent address to the nation. The overriding reason for war, to quote Putin, is “the eastward expansion of NATO, which is moving its military infrastructure ever closer to the Russian border.” On the facts, US policy toward Ukraine and Russia has not promoted peace between the two, but sought to sever the former’s centuries-long ties to Russia and bring it into the US-led NATO sphere of influence. Cold War is when conflict outweighs cooperation. Détente is when conflict and friction are reduced. The US has sought a new cold war with Russia. Those were Putin’s salient points.

It is clear: Azov has a fight with the Russians. Its vigilance might also be in support of the Ukrainian white ethno-state. But if this is the case, and the battalion’s war doesn’t involve ethnic cleansing other than their battle to repel a Russian invader—I would put it to the reader that we on the dissident Right should not in any way adopt the Left’s evil of prosecuting thought and speech crimes, and should not be bothered by the Azov’s belief system, flags, goose-stepping and assorted attire, all no more than accoutrements of speech. I do agree with Mr. Malic that it is worse than hypocrisy—treasonous? —for Western press and politicians to ignore the white nationalism of Ukraine’s defenders as they criminalize white nationalists stateside.

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Against this backdrop, Nebojsa Malic joined David Vance and myself on HARD TRUTH to discuss his RT column, during which I questioned the Nazi designation attached to the Azov Brigade, suggesting that, if Azov are not engaged in palpable acts of violence against the traditional Nazi victims and other ethnics, and are merely a military battalion fighting in the Russia-Ukraine military theater—then the Nazi getup is irrelevant. These symbols then fall into the category of ritual, impolite speech—thought crimes—the kind the Left is always criminalizing the Right for. Nebojsa and David counter with facts to the contrary. All have a jolly good time. Join us and SUBSCRIBE.

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Ilana Mercer has been writing a weekly, paleolibertarian think piece since 1999. She’s the author of Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011) & The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed” (June, 2016). She’s on Twitter, Gab, Gettr YouTube & LinkedIn; banned by Facebook, and has a new video-podcast.

 
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  1. Jokem says:

    Putin’s war in Ukraine is a war for which there are plenty reasons, all of them vindicating Russia

    Ms Mercer-

    I read the link, I was not able to find any reasons vindicating Russia
    What are they?

    Also remember the swastika was originally a symbol of Indic Religions, purloined by Adolph Hitler and his NSDAP. I have to wonder if Ukraine, being in striking distance of that part of the world, has more in common with the Indic interpretation of the Azov Battalion logo. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can speak to that.

    • Replies: @Realist
  2. This is perhaps relevant in the context of the present atmosphere in the West, but not from the Russian perspective, or the Ukrainian for that matter.

    These people, the Azov Battalion are using the Nazi insignia for two reasons. First, as a tribute to the SS-Volunteer Division “Galicia” of which they consider themselves a successor, and second as an attribute of a Neo-Nazi international group called the Misanthropic Division, with which they are associated.

    Therefore “the traditional Nazi victims” are in this case the Russians.

    Along with all that the Azov Battalion is also a continuation of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists – a militant radical right-wing group that collaborated with the Nazis during the war. From the Russian perspective there is little difference, if any at all between the Azov Battalion and the aforementioned group.

    There is a considerable amount of Israeli officers among them, and hundreds of mercenaries from Europe. Most of them if not all of them are connected with the Misanthropic Division. Their organization is a Neo-Nazi Satanic cult. So perhaps it would be wrong to call them Nazis in the traditional sense.

    But this is for certain a form of a radical, extremist and infernal creed of which the Nazism was a part, and it is engaged in palpable acts of violence. The Azov Battalion had been established before a Russian invader set foot in Ukraine, and proclamations about ethnic cleansing had been heard there often.

    Their main idea is kind of blood and soil, except that more than anything they want power – power and land, and they do not mind to be funded with stolen from the Ukrainian people money. The man, who was behind the Battalion from the get go is an oligarch, and the most notorious Ukrainian Jewish mafioso.

  3. JR Foley says:

    When 13,000 Russian speaking Ukrainians are killed 2014-2022 and you have a comedian in Kyiv wanting nuclear weapons because the 35 American Biolabs are not quite what will do the job and there were no serious attempts by Poroshenko ( son of Ukrainian Mafia boss – Waltzman) to commit to the Minsk Accord —-for Russia:it was indeed time to act. Strike 4 and Putin would be out along with Russia.

    As for the swastika —Heinrich Harrer was dispatched to Tibet by Heinrich Himmler to check matters over and check out the possibility of linking Nazi Germany to Tojo’s Japan and have a great Axis. While in Tibet Heinrich taught the young Dalai Lama English (not German) and Harrer saw it –. He returned to Nazi Germany and told Adolf and Himmler the swastika was in Tibet and it is stated that both Adolf and Heinrich were ecstatic but there was one slight problem. The arms were in the opposite position–from each variant.

    Aftermath: Boss of Harbin Biological Weapons Unit 731 Shiro Isshi is not a war criminal following WWII but takes up new stakes in the USA at Fort Detrick –making improved biological weapons which will be used in North Korea 1950-1952.

    Dalai Lama exits Tibet with 1,000 muleloads of gold entering India not paying customs duties and embarking on a new life in London.

    Improved and better Fort Detrick biological weapons set up in Western Ukraine 2022 and this causes concern in Moscow.

    Justin “Jackboot” Trudeau goes to see Zylenskyy and Chrystia Freeland has a studio pad in Kiev where Victoria Nuland will later meet K D Lang.

    Joe Biden betting Amtrak will break the Loss barrier if gas prices remain Hi !!!

  4. saggy says: • Website

    Mercer is right about the Nazi BS that has now become standard discourse from both left and right.

    But, for some reason she omits what I think is the perfectly valid reason (as far as these things go) for the Azovs, indeed the Ukrainians, to hate the Russians, and that of course is the Bolshevik decimation of Ukraine. They haven’t forgotten. This is not ‘white nationalism’, this is, in essence, Jew hatred, and fully justified IMO. Unfortunately, it is misdirected. And, irony of irony, it’s being exploited by the Jews that run Ukraine.

  5. Nazcucks of Jewish Supremacists

    • Agree: Trinity
  6. The Indian swastika is not the same thing as the NSDAP symbol, which Germans knew as the hakenkreuz or crooked cross. The Benedictine Monastery in Lambach where young Hitler attended school and sang in the choir was decorated with a repeating pattern of this symbol, over the ornamental gateway, over a stone well, and over several of the stalls in the Abbey. It was a tribute in stone to the Abbot Theodorich von Hagen, upon whose coat of arms appeared a hakenkreuz. It is surmised that von Hagen considered it a pun on his own name (Haken-Hagen). As Hitler states in Mein Kampf that he came up with the design himself, he was very possibly subconsciously influenced by the potent symbol he had seen so often as a boy.

    Speculation about the symbol’s connection to sun worship or pagan mysticism is part of the effort to detach National Socialism from its fundamentally Christian origins and values. Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany submitted a memorandum to the new government in which it characterized Hitler’s program as “the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character.” The party’s enthusiastic endorsement by both the Protestant and Catholic religious institutions of Germany remains an enduring if unspoken embarrassment to this day.

    • Replies: @Vinnie O
  7. Meebs says:

    The Azov battalion are murderous thugs. They think the Nazi regalia justifies and ties them to a larger movement.

    Historical question (sincere): did the German Nazi brownshirts ever burn cops to the bone (with styrofoam) as Nuland-Kagan taught the Azov Maidan demonstrators? Did they burn opponents alive in buildings as happened in Odessa? If so, Azov deserves to use the name.

    There is no reason for anyone to get their panties in a wad over the Kaganovichs or Israel’s liar Talmudo deep state working with latterday Nazis. Deep Judaics know the holocaust was simply an ‘incubator’ fraud to manipulate the world and the ‘lesser Jews’.

  8. The Azov Battalion isn’t. It is a Regiment, incorporated into The Ukrainian armed forces since 2017.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

    In 2017, the size of the regiment was estimated at more than 2,500 members,[2] but was estimated to have 900 members in 2022.[24] Members of the battalion came from 22 countries and are of various backgrounds.[25][26]

    Ukrainian Armed Forces has a regular complement of about 200,000, so this rag tag group is militarily and politically insignificant. But they provide useful propaganda material for the Russian Government. Like most Western Governments, the Russian Government continues to use mythic versions of WWII for propaganda purposes, so it is convenient to have a band of “Neo-Nazis” in the Ukraine to scare old Sovoks and others.

    Most of the guys in the Regiment are probably best categorised as Galicians or Galician Supremacists. Germans, Poles, Russians, Jews – they don’t like any of them. But they’ll take money and aid from anyone, if it promotes their cause, as they see it. Hence, the amusing photo of various Azov members with Swastika, NATO and EU flags all held up prominently.

    This brings me to the crux of the matter. Nowhere does Ms Mercer mention the heavy Jewish, Zionist and Israeli involvement in all of this. Are we surprised ? No !
    The Azov Regiment is largely funded by Ihor Kholomoisky ( spellings vary), the most prominent Ukrainian Jewish oligarch. Another UR columnist, Rolo Slavskiy, has described the Azov regiment as Kholomoisky’s private army. From its record against the oligarch’s opponents, this seems correct.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
    ( Unsurprisingly, Wikipedia makes no mention of the oligarch’s involvement with Azov )

    Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper, has described Kholomoisky as the most powerful Jew in the world. He bankrolled a fellow Zionist Jew, Zelensky, to become President of Ukraine. Zelensky is the guy who said that he wants Ukraine to be a big Israel.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/5/zelenskyy-says-wants-ukraine-to-become-a-big-israel
    In 2019, Ukraine had a Zionist Jew as President and another as Prime Minister, the only place outside Israel to have such. Both are backed by Kholomoisky’s money.

    Back to the Azov guys again. They have received Israeli weapons. They have been trained by NATO instructors. It wouldn’t surprise me if Israeli instructors had also done so. Real Neo-Nazis, if they exist, would not have accepted any of this.

    Conclusion
    UKRAINE = FAKE STATE ( too many ethnic Russians )
    AZOV BATTALION = FAKE NEO-NAZIS ( controlled by Zionist Jewish Oligarch )

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  9. Azov’s symbols appear to be Nazi, but their actions appear to be merely nationalist, namely a quest to keep Ukraine Ukrainian.

    If you overlook the killing of 14k ethnic-Russian Ukraine citizens from 2014 to 2021, I suppose you might be right.

    Russians have become the Jews of the 21st century, and all the righteous Gentiles of the West are lining up to get a shot at the new pogroms.

  10. BuelahMan says:

    Its all funny because it is the jews assuming the moniker of “Nazi” in order to demonize their enemy, when in fact, it was jews who invented the word to demonize an honorable people trying to stop the jew scourge in Weimar Germany.

    The brainwashing is so great (but not surprising to hear from a jew) that EVERYBODY is now the jewish invented caricature. What does this do? Bolsters the original lie that gives the jew the victimhood status they use with such vigor.

    “It was real in my mind.”

  11. Definitely Nazis. Why else would they have the swastika on their bodies, Stepan Bandera as their leader and SS as their symbol?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  12. @Verymuchalive

    You and Ms Mercer seem to be incapable of understanding that Nazism as an idea can put down roots in various places. Depending on the cultural and historical background it evolves into a form that is most applicable to the present conditions.

    The Japanese Nazis did not have antisemitism. That does not mean that they were fake Nazis.

    To the Ukrainian environment it has adapted in the form of a composite of the older Banderite nationalism and the recent brand of the Neo-Nazi Satanism. And there is even a Jewish version of Nazism – they used to have a political party in Israel.

    • Replies: @Jokem
    , @Verymuchalive
  13. If Azov is Nazi then so is your dog.

    There are “reasons” for Putin to invade, but not one of them vindicates Russia as they “reasons” were lies. Putin’s long range war aims is to rebuild the Russian empire. Imperialism does not vindicate anyone.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    , @Begemot
  14. Realist says:
    @Jokem

    I read the link, I was not able to find any reasons vindicating Russia
    What are they?

    I agree there were no reasons listed. But here is a scenario that should help you understand: Suppose Russia or China or both, stationed troops in Mexico, Canada, or both(and both were pugnacious to the U. S.) and were promulgating both countries to join an organization that was extremely hostile to the U. S. and this organization would allow the placement of nuclear weapons on the U. S. border. Would the U. S. be justified in attacking those countries?

    • Agree: follyofwar
  15. Jokem says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You and Ms Mercer seem to be incapable of understanding that Nazism as an idea can put down roots in various places.

    I agree it is possible this is just another ultranationalist jingoistic movement having nothing to do with
    antisemitism.

    The Japanese Nazis did not have antisemitism. That does not mean that they were fake Nazis.

    I think I understand what you mean, but in order to be a Nazi, it pretty much requires an attitude of racial superiority of the Caucasian race as well as antisemitism.

    Fascism might be a better word to use.

  16. @Jokem

    Fascism is a form of political regimentation. Nazism is a cultural phenomenon. Two different things. The Caucasian race or any other – does not matter. Nazism is an extreme form of national chauvinism. Any nation of any race can have their version of Nazism.

    And whether they have antisemitism or anti something else depends on who is standing on their way, or who they think is standing on their way. For the Japanese it was first and foremost the Koreans and the Chinese. For the Ukrainians – the Russians.

    The Japanese Nazis considered themselves to be superior to all other Asiatic nations, their main idea was the purity of blood. The last book of Yukio Mishima depicts these attitudes in great detail, and if you haven’t read it yet then perhaps you should.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sea_of_Fertility

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  17. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, Azov and Aidar are definitely Neo-Nazi and purposely so. The CIA fostered this Neo-Nazism as a major means of antagonizing Russia to open a raw wound in Russian memory and as means of spitting in their face (i.e., having Neo-Nazis devotees of Stephen Bandera on their border and brutalizing ethnic Russians in Donbas).

  18. @Jokem

    [Naziism] pretty much requires an attitude of racial superiority of the Caucasian race as well as antisemitism.

    Fascism might be a better word to use.

    Did Hitler ever proclaim the racial superiority of ‘Caucasians’ (over non-Caucasians)?

    No.

    Beliefs involving Caucasian racial superiority occurred mainly in nations/continents where there were negro slaves. (See: America, South America.) Germany never held slaves.

    Germany’s respect for other races helps explain why the Japanese found the National Socialists of Germany to be honorable and trustworthy allies during WWII.

    Yes, Hitler despised the Jews (for their treasonous conduct, lack of morality, and dishonesty) but he never spoke of ‘Caucasian superiority’. That is a complete crock. On the other hand, the generalized belief in ‘Caucasian (White) supremacy’ was widespread in nations that held negros in bondage. To this day, wherever there are Blacks living among Whites, attitudes of ‘White supremacy’ are commonplace.

    Why? Black behavior.

    On other other hand, Hitler was indeed an ‘Aryan supremacist’. He looked down on peoples to the east, especially the Slavs. This makes him–like most Jews and many Western Europeans–guilty of being an ethnic supremacist.

    As for ‘Naziism’, since ‘anti-Semitism’ has been indelibly stamped into the core meaning of that term, then the alleged Nazis of Ukraine (Azov Battalion) are not Nazis at all.

    These so-called ‘Ukrainian Nazis’ actually carry water for ((Zelensky)) and other Zionists who are beating the pro-NATO war-drum.

    Ironically, it can be argued that ‘Nazi-like’ members of the Azov Battalion in Ukraine have more in common with today’s right-wing Israelis than yesteryear’s Nazis.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    , @Jokem
  19. Ukraine project is one big mafia operation.

  20. @mark green

    On other other hand, Hitler was indeed an ‘Aryan supremacist’. He looked down on peoples to the east, especially the Slavs. This makes him–like most Jews and many Western Europeans–guilty of being an ethnic supremacist.

    As Guyenot, Joyce and others have demonstrated, Hitler’s anti-Slavism was not shared by other top Nazis. Indeed, the incorporation of Slavonic Czechoslovakia into the German state and nation was regarded as a long term aim. Even so, the Fuhrer’s anti-Slavism didn’t become a problem until after the start of WWII. Most serious researchers put it down to Hitler’s Austrian background and the ideas current in pre-WWI Austria -Hungary. I don’t think that a fully German Fuhrer would have made that mistake.

    Ironically, it can be argued that ‘Nazi-like’ members of the Azov Battalion in Ukraine have more in common with today’s right-wing Israelis

    See my comment #8 about Zelensky’s Big Israel plan for the Ukraine.

    • Thanks: mark green
  21. Vinnie O says:
    @Observator

    Hitler’s “National Socialism” was a DIRECT (almost word for word) implementation of Lothrop Stoddard’s 1922 “The Revolt Against Civilization”, which Stoddard wrote as instructions for converting AMERICA to “national socialism”. Americans COMPLETELY rejected Stoddard’s ideas, and in fact moved in the OPPOSITE direction. So much so that Stoddard is never mentioned in discussions of the “revolution” in the USA in the 1930s.

    National Socialism was about transforming the CIVIL structure of society and government. Once that transformation was complete (in Germany), it turned out that the new improved Germany not only COMPLETELY recovered from the Allies’ post-WWI rape of Germany, but smoothly moved on socially and economically to become again the leading country in Europe. But the English and French still HATED Germans for BEING German. Economic miracles be damned.

    1930s Germany simply wanted to recover the land and people that were, and always had been, German. The English and French didn’t want that to happen because a RECOVERED Germany, regardless of its nominal form of government, was a threat to Anglo-French domination of Europe (and the rest of the world). So they created, and continue to circulate, lies about what “National Socialism” meant in theory and practice. Note amongst other things that the German agency for assisting Jews to move to Palestine was an office in the SS. And the people PREVENTING German Jews (and all other European Jews) from moving to Palestine were the ENGLISH.

    The pre-war situation was not helped by the Poles suddenly deciding to EXPEL thousands in non-Polish communities from Poland by simply marching them to the Polish border at gun point and saying “GO AWAY!” This might have worked if the Poles had provided even the SIMPLEST paperwork documenting the expellees’ apparent citizenship. The Poles refused to provide ANYTHING. And THAT all brings us to Krystallnacht…

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
  22. @Quartermaster

    Imperialism does not vindicate anyone.

    OMG
    Quartermaster admits American Imperialism is wrong. I’m looking forward to all your comments condemning American troop deployments in Europe, Syria and elsewhere. C’mon man, go for it!

  23. @Here Be Dragon

    After such paranoia, all explanation is wasted.

  24. @JR Foley

    It is irrelevant what anyone saw in Tibet. The swastika and its cousin the fylfot have been in Northern Europe since, at least, the Iron Age. The Finnish Air Force used it as a symbol from 1917 to 2017. The fylfot was used by the Icelandic Steamship Company (Eimskip) from its inception in 1914. The NSDAP adopted it from a monastery in Austria. It is found all over the world in ancient places, both left and right facing. It was a name used by sports teams in North America early in the 20th century with at least 4 in Canada alone. It has always meant the same thing, even when used by the NSDAP – luck and success. It is the myth of the Hollow-co\$t that has brought it into disrepute.

    As for the current crop of nut cases in Ukraine, I live in a Canadian city and province with a sizable “Ukrainian” population that began arriving in the 19th century. I use quotation marks, because my parents and grandparents generations used to call them Galicians. They have been shit disturbers since they arrived. I grew up with several. The ones who identified as Canadians were pretty much like everyone else. The hyphenated ones were arrogant bastards who didn’t get along with anyone – Poles, Germans, Jews, Hungarians, and were constantly proclaiming the wonders of Ukraine. I worked with one from a rural area with a significant Ukrainian population. He called it the Old Country because most of the people refused to assimilate and were constantly clamouring for the government to save Ukraine from the evil commies, while they themselves stuck together like shit to a blanket. There are plenty of statues of “national” heroes – Ukrainian ones, not Canadian ones. In short, these turds have been around long before the NSDAP ever existed.
    Never considered is that the Waffen SS was a volunteer force from all across Europe. There was no blood test or exam to determine whether they were NSDAP material or philosophically aligned. The rules of war, prior to the Kangaroo court at Nuremberg, required all combatants to be uniformed. Those not in uniform were spies as were those aiding and abetting, who could be summarily executed when caught, which is why the Waffen SS volunteers were uniformed and formed their own “national” brigades with their own insignias and marches. They joined to fight communism. Just as the volunteers on both sides fought in Spain. Being anti-communist does not make you a “Nazi” anymore than being anti-“Nazi” makes you a communist. That communists overthrew the German and Hungarian governments post WWI and briefly seized power, is stuffed down the memory hole as is the fact that the “innocent (((Soviets)))” starved millions of Ukrainians to death. Why is anyone surprised that Ukrainians might collaborate with Germans to rid themselves of (((communists)))? Collaboration only involves working together on something to achieve a desired outcome. The US and UK collaborated with mass murderer Stalin, and that regimes known crimes were ignored, including denying the Holomodor.
    All of the above is completely ignored, as is the massive Soviet invasion force preparing to invade Europe had Operation Barbarosa not taken place. The entire narrative regarding Ukrainian “Nazis” allows the Russians to continue their Big Lie – the Great Patriotic War was fought because the “evil Nazis” attacked the poor innocent Russians without provocation. The irony, of course, is that Russia is in Donetsk and Luhansk for the same reason Germany was in West Prussia – to stop the ethnic cleansing. I guess that makes Putin a “Nazi”.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    , @RestiveUs
  25. @Дима Трамп

    Bandera never claimed he was a Nazi. The “SS” symbol is but one of many “national” groups, including those from Belgium, the Netherlands, and France.

  26. Begemot says:
    @Quartermaster

    The funny thing about you, QM, is that if you had been born a Russian you would have been a die-hard Stalinist or a fervent Putinist or a fanatical Hitlerist if Germany had been your place of birth. You are a follower and you accept without question the Furhrer or ideology of whatever place you would be born to. No independent thinking in your head. Just the instinct to click your heels.

  27. @Curmudgeon

    It takes a Real Canadian to explain these things properly.
    PS What are your thoughts on unreal Canadian Justin Trudeau ? Do you think Fidel Castro is his real father ?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  28. @JR Foley

    “As for the swastika —Heinrich Harrer was dispatched to Tibet by Heinrich Himmler to check matters over and check out the possibility of linking Nazi Germany to Tojo’s Japan and have a great Axis. While in Tibet Heinrich taught the young Dalai Lama English (not German) and Harrer saw it –. He returned to Nazi Germany and told Adolf and Himmler the swastika was in Tibet and it is stated that both Adolf and Heinrich were ecstatic but there was one slight problem. The arms were in the opposite position–from each variant.”

    The swastika is an ancient Aryan symbol and sign. When facing in one direction it is the Sun, when facing the other, it is the Moon. This is the basis of many Aryan myths across Asia and Europe and North Africa. For example the swastikas are the eyes of Thor so he watches the land at all times and when there is a mist he cannot see so evil strikes, or the swastikas are the eyes of Mithra and he watches the the land (hence Mithra being the “lord of wide pastures”) and when they are blocked by some means Ahriman and the Lie can attack. Thor and Mithra are equated as the same deity in the Aryan who’s who of gods. There is a really old legend of Mithra being one eye or swastika and Varuna being the other. This apparently goes right back to the Mitanni and those oldest mentions of Aryan gods and culture.

    The debate was which direction is the Sun and which direction is the Moon, and I don’t believe there was ever any consensus from the scholars of Germany, France, Iran, and India in the last three centuries.

    It is in some respects a calling card of where Aryans reached in their travels across the world. It is found in many places with legends of superior spiritual men, brilliant engineers and builders, or warrior of great repute, that visited or were invite to rule or conquered the land

    In deeper analyses it seems to be a symbol of religio-cultural significance and representing the eternal return and reincarnation/circle of life theology and mechanics of ancient Aryan faith. There is a rich history associated with the symbol and sign that is the swastika.

  29. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    Ilana Mercer; another reasonable piece, in a country without reason.

    • Thanks: ILANA Mercer
  30. RestiveUs says:
    @Curmudgeon

    The irony, of course, is that Russia is in Donetsk and Luhansk for the same reason Germany was in West Prussia – to stop the ethnic cleansing.

    Yes, indeed. The historical parallels are striking. That’s what happens when you impose political borders across ethnic regions.

  31. ” A war of aggression is seldom justified”

    Every country that ever went to war since the beginning of time thought the other side was the aggressor.

  32. JimDandy says:

    These symbols then fall into the category of ritual, impolite speech—thought crimes—the kind the Left is always criminalizing the Right for.

    Actually, the issue is that the left isn’t always criminalizing the right for these offenses. I get it, I get it… Do they contradict theyselves? Very well then they contradict theyselves, (They are large, they contain multitudes.)

  33. Wokechoke says:
    @JR Foley

    Zelenskyy went to law school. Acting was his way to the big bucks though.

  34. Jokem says:
    @mark green

    Did Hitler ever proclaim the racial superiority of ‘Caucasians’ (over non-Caucasians)?

    So what is this Master Race business?
    Hitler did not consider the Germans to be the only pure Caucasians, all the others were mixed mongrel races?

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @Verymuchalive
  35. Wokechoke says:

    There’s several elements to Azov.

    I suspect they were put there to enrage the Russians.

    There is a weird fusion of Judeo-Neo-Nordic in the Azov Battalion. The Masada histrionics in the basement of the Azovstal factory for example. The Hollywood fusion of the Hitler Bunker and the fall of Sicarii in Judaea.

    My guess is the CIA, MI6 and maybe the BBC cooked up the gang to provoke Russia into invading. Something like the debacle in Charlottesville which may have been an FBI production. Crushing Azov plays in cool sounding but dumb ideas that the Allied powers use to justify firebombing Germany wrecking Berlin. All the while tricking Russia into playing the heel, just as it considers itself the Ultra-Antifash.

    ww2 was such bullshit.

  36. When they came for the Vietnamese, i kept quiet b/c i am not a Vietnamese. Then they came for the Grenadians, then Panamanians, Iranians, Iraqis, Serbians, Libyans, Syrians, Russians and so on and on, i still kept quiet. When they came for me …
    Whachu gonna do, whachu gonna do when they come for you?!

  37. @Here Be Dragon

    Dragon writes: “Nazism is an extreme form of national chauvinism.”

    If that statement is true, then doesn’t that make the illicit Biden Regime, any congressperson who voted for the billion-dollar-Ukraine monstrousity, and anyone in the Deep State working to kill as many Russians as possible “national chauvinists?” (IOW: the common belief inside the Beltway that the US is the Exceptional Nation!) Only some of them, I think, are actual Nazis.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  38. @follyofwar

    Well in Russia there is a lot of talk going on about that. Yes of course the notion of Exceptional Nation! and all that comes with it is the beginning of Nazism. But there is a number of factors holding it back. Like social diversity, absence of unity, ethnic division and wild capitalism.

    America is more like a Leo Trotsky’s version of international communism the other way round – international global capitalism, worldwide liberal revolution. America is a chimera.

  39. @Jokem

    Hitler did not consider the Germans to be the only pure Caucasians, all the others were mixed mongrel races?

    You’ve been watching too much television.

    Hitler was aligned with Mussolini’s Italy and the Emperor’s Japan. These three were the chief Axis Powers. They were united. They fought together against the global commies as well as the US and British imperialists.

    The Axis Powers had mutual respect for one another. They believed in power-sharing. Hitler saw Japan as the rightful heir to Asian dominance. Italy’s glorious history would be rekindled under Mussolini’s Fascist party. But Hitler also admired the British and sought peace with England.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  40. Jokem says:
    @mark green

    So the Nazi did not consider the Aryan to be a subset of the Caucasians, with people of Germanic descent, including the Scandinavian people to be superior?

    I simple do not believe your narrative that the Axis Powers had respect for one another. They may have made noise about that, but it was all a marriage of convenience, with the ‘respect’ lasting only so long as mutually beneficial.

    I do believe Hitler saw the British as Germanic and thus deserved a proper place in the Reich.

  41. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:

    So Israel decides to whitewash the Banderites and Mercer immediately climbs on the bandwagon. Principled much?

  42. @Jokem

    Hitler never used that term. It was a complete fabrication by American journalist William L Shirer in his ” The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich” ( 1960) , which is riddled with lies, distortions and half-truths.
    https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/shirer1.htm

    3) “Master Race” is a mistranslation of “Herrenvolk”, an extremely rare word used a total of perhaps 8 or 9 times. As a stand-alone term, it means “Nation of Men”, a brave, independent people. In contexts of obvious dominance, it means “ruling people”, “dominant race” or “colonial power”.

    4) The English term “Master Race” does not appear in the English translation of any work of National Socialist literature that I know of. See if you can find it.

    • Replies: @Jokem
  43. @Verymuchalive

    I suppose it is theoretically possible, but Pierre was as vain as hell. At the time, women were lining up to screw him, and post divorce, he fathered another. I can’t see him passing her around because of he ate up the press on his “virility”, despite, in the back of my mind, I have always wondered if the Sinclairs were trafficking poor Margaret. Why an 18 year old would have become enamoured with someone he father’s age. The joke at the time was that Pierre must have been stuffing it in on the way to the airport. Given the suddenness of the marriage, she may well have been pregnant at the time and “overdue” on the birth.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  44. Jokem says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I went to https://www.translate.com/german-english
    Herrenvolk translates to Master race
    I went to https://translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=Herrenvolk&op=translate
    Same
    Some of the others had alternate translations having to do with masculine people, gentlemen’s people.
    Also, dominant people, superior people.

    Certainly, manly people is a plausible definition, master race is also.

    Considering the mass extermination of ‘inferior beings’ the Nazi were responsible for, ‘Master Race’ makes sense as a proper translation.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  45. @Curmudgeon

    Thanks. I suppose the only ones that really know if Pierre was Justin’s father are the Canadian Security Intelligence Service: maybe the CIA, MI6 and a few others.
    I’m sure the CSIS have a large file on Justin Trudeau. When, in the remote future, the file comes to be completely declassified, I suspect any details regarding paternity and other matters will have been removed.

  46. @Jokem

    5) Look for “Herrenvolk” or Herrenmensch” or “Herrenrasse” in any Nazi text using the “Search Inside This Book” feature on amazon.com or the “Blick Ins Buch” feature on amazon.de and you’ll see what a rare word it is. I don’t think you’ll ever see any of these words used in a real quotation, in the sense alleged, by any real National Socialist. These are neo-Marxist smear words tossed around by cheap writers, usually writers of fiction, for purposes of irony or sarcasm, nothing more. Most serious writers on National Socialism do not use these words.

    Alfred Rosenberg used the term “Herrenvolk” twice, once with reference to the Amorites, an ancient people, and once to describe the British, i.e., as equivalent to “colonial power”.

    Goebbels is [incorrectly] alleged to have used it once, in the same sense, meaning “colonial power”.

    Hitler used it 3 times to mean “dominant race”. He never used it to refer to the Germans.

    Himmler used the words “Herrenvolk” twice, “Herrenmensch” once, and “Herrenrasse” twice, always sarcastically, to describe the attitudes of certain other people. He was a very sarcastic speaker. When Himmler used it, the way he used it, it might be correct to translate it as “Master Race”. But “Herr” means man or gentleman and “Volk” is people. “Herr” is a term of respect. To address someone as “Herr” is a compliment.

    Erich Koch, an official in the Ukraine, used the word “Herrenvolk” twice, to mean dominant race, occupying power. The word “Herrenvolk” has no particular significance.

    Rosenberg says that the culture of a country is determined by its ruling people, but the word he uses in German is not “Herrenvolk”, but “Grundrasse”, basic or founding race.

    In other words, it is a very common concept, but, like everybody else, the Germans used a great number of synonymous terms to mean the same things. This is why the word is so rare.

    There is no such thing as a “Master Race Principle or Doctrine”. Cela n’existe pas, monsieur.

    Those are the real meanings of the words at the time, not the meanings that some 21st Century websites are applying retrospectively. The latter are unhistorical and false.

    You write:
    Considering the mass extermination of ‘inferior beings’ the Nazi were responsible for, ‘Master Race’ makes sense as a proper translation.

    Still pushing the Holohoax. Learn the truth. It will set you free.
    https://www.unz.com/article/breaking-the-spell/

    • Replies: @Jokem
  47. Jokem says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I simply do not believe you regarding the ‘holohoax’. Too many people have seen the death camps, the ovens, etc.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  48. @Jokem

    You’re either very naive or very dishonest.
    Despite lots of well-funded expeditions, no evidence of gas chambers, “ovens”, or mass graves has ever been found – because there are none. Undoubtedly agents of the German Government did commit atrocities – as did agents of Allied States – but there is no evidence whatsoever for death camps. These atrocities were not remotely on the scale of what the Holohoax fabricators claimed.

    If you are not dishonest, please read the article in full, and you will become aware of the massive scale of this deception.
    https://www.unz.com/article/breaking-the-spell/

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