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He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner. “As the old legal adage goes, ‘Possession is nine-tenths of the law,’ as it is the best evidence in our uncertain world of legitimate title. The burden of proof rests squarely with the person attempting to alter and abolish present property titles.” (From “Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons For America From Post-Apartheid South-Africa”.)

It is to this potent principle that democratic rule in South Africa has taken an axe—or, rather, an assegai.

Here is how taking land legally currently works, in South Africa, a place the US State Department has only just lauded as “a strong democracy with resilient institutions…,” a country merely “grappling with the difficult issue of land reform.” “Land reform,” of course, is a euphemism for land distribution in the Robert Mugabe mold.

The process currently in place typically begins with a “tribe” or group of individuals who band together to claim vast tracts of private property.

If these loosely and conveniently conjoined groups know anything, it’s this: South Africa’s adapted, indigenized law allows coveted land, owned and occupied by another, to be obtained with relative ease.

See, the country no longer enjoys the impressive Western system of Roman-Dutch law it once enjoyed. Lax law and poorly protected property rights signal a free-for-all on the lives of white owners and their livestock

No sooner does this newly constituted “tribe” (or band of bandits, really) launch a claim with the South African Department of Rural Development and Land Reform, than related squatters—sometimes in the thousands—move to colonize the land.

They defile its grounds and groundwater by using these as one vast toilet, and terrorize, sometimes kill, its occupants and their animals in the hope of “nudging” them off the land.

Dr. Philip du Toit, a farmer (with a doctorate in labor law) and author of “The Great South African Land Scandal,” speaks of recurrent attacks on farm animals that “hark back to the Mau Mau terror campaign which drove whites off Kenyan farms.”

Farmer’s Weekly used to be packed with pitiful accounts of cows poisoned with exotic substances, battered with heavy metal bars, writhing in agony for hours before being found by a distraught farmer.

“Encroachment is the right word,” a farmer told du Toit. “They put their cattle in, then they cut the fences, then they start stealing your crops, forcing you to leave your land. And then they say: ‘Oh well, there’s vacant land, let’s move on to it.’

It’s a very subtle way of stealing land.” “When there is a farm claim I say ‘Look out!’ because attacks may follow to scare the farmers,” confirmed the regional director of the Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU).”

Agri SA, an organization representing small and large-scale commercial farmers, reports the annual theft of hundreds of thousands of priceless livestock.

The ANC’s old Soviet-inspired Freedom Charter promised this: “All shall have the right to occupy land wherever they choose.” And so they do today.

Because of legal claims they are powerless to fight, squatters whom they cannot fend off, and cattle, crops and families which they can no longer protect, farmers have already been pushed to abandon hundreds of thousands of hectares of prime commercial farmland.

“Since the end of apartheid in 1994, when multi-racial elections were held,” wrote Dan McDougal of the London Times, millions of “acres of productive farmland have been transferred to black ownership. Much of it is now lying fallow, creating no economic benefit for the nation or its new owners.”

South Africa has become a net importer of food for the first time in its history.

“My visit to Mpumalanga came immediately after crossing the frontier from Zimbabwe,” attests Aidan Hartley, also of the Times, “and what struck me was how similar the landscapes were after redistribution had taken place. Once productive maize fields now grow only weeds. Citrus orchards are dying, their valuable fruit rotting on the branches. Machinery lies about rusting. Irrigation pipes have been looted and farm sheds are derelict and stripped of roofing. Windbreak trees have been hacked down and roads are potholed.”

Dr. du Toit has traversed the “beloved country” from the Limpopo to the Cape, from Natal to the North West to document the transfer and consequent trashing of the country’s commercial farms.

Without exception, splendid enterprises that fed the country many times over have been reduced to “subsistence operations with a few mangy cattle and the odd mealie patch.” (Mealie is Afrikaans for “maize,” deriving, apparently, from the Portuguese word milho.)

In even the best-case scenario, farms belonging to the whites who feed the country and produce surpluses are being handed over to subsistence farmers who can barely feed themselves.

Now, it’s about to get worse—unless a super hero comes to the rescue. President Cyril Ramaphosa’s government is denying it, but the South African press reports that “the first two farms have been targeted for unilateral seizure.”

If anyone can make the thuggish African National Congress and its leader, Ramaphosa, reconsider their plot to simply steal privately owned land from whites and gift it to the clamoring black citizens of South Africa—it’s President Donald Trump.

Another super hero, Fox News broadcaster Tucker Carlson, has served as the catalyst. Tucker got the American government, in the person of Donald Trump, to respond to indisputable crimes against humanity underway for decades against rural, white South Africans.

President Trump’s resolve to sic Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on the case is possibly the first impassioned, official, American reaction to what a genocide expert has been warning about.

South African “whites and Boers” Dr. Gregory H. Stanton has placed in these stages of genocide: classification (number 1), symbolization (2), polarization (number 6 in 10).

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Classification of whites as The Other has occurred. And attendant symbols of this hatred have been developed and are ingrained in the culture. To wit, in the new, highly polarized South Africa, there’s a renewed appreciation for the old slogan, “Kill the Boer, kill the farmer,” chanted at political rallies and funerals.

* Citations are in “Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons For America From Post-Apartheid South-Africa” (2011) by ilana mercer, who has been writing a weekly, paleolibertarian column since 1999. She’s on Twitter, Facebook,Gab& YouTube

 
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  1. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    South Africa has become a net importer of food for the first time in its history.

    The Downward Spiral is just getting started.

    Does anyone remember how manic all the ‘good thinkers’ were about boycotting South Africa a generation ago? They’re awfully quiet now.

  2. Anonymous[772] • Disclaimer says:

    The 14 words have never been more important for South African farmers. I learned it from Joe Bernstein.

    Simply put, it’s a straight line from this [Trump's tweet about South African farmers] to the 14 words: “”We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”
    9:06 PM – 22 Aug 2018

    http://mobile.twitter.com/Bernstein/status/1032479135677992961

  3. Rational says:

    FOR WHOM THE BELLS TOLL? HEY WHITE, THEY TOLL FOR THEE, ‘RIGHT.

    Great article, Mam.

    When whites become a minority, the blacks and browns will steal their land and their women too, just like they are doing in S.A.

    I am glad Trump has taken note. It is time for him to take action.

    Gullible white liberals are delusional to think that the immigration bomb is fine and they will not be affected when blacks rule over them and they do not need to have many kids.

    For whom the bells toll? Hey White, they toll for thee, ‘Right.

  4. Dumbo says:

    Future Haiti. Blacks shooting themselves in the foot, as usual.

  5. (((Mercer))), just a reminder. You, your rabbi father and the family were kicked out of South Africa because of your anti-apartheid work. You gathered the kindling wood for the cannibal’s pot. You laid the foundation for today’s “land reform.”

  6. Bucky says:

    Obviously the smart ones should have left a decade ago.

    For fuck’s sake, as long as those Africans stay in Africa, that is all that matters.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  7. @Anonymous

    They’re awfully quiet now.

    Nice contrast to their being awfully noisy back then.

  8. TG says:

    I would like to offer another angle on this matter.

    I propose that the big issue underlying so much of what’s happening in South Africa, is the elites importing massive numbers of foreign workers to drive wages lower, and the social instability that inevitably follows.

    In 1960 South Africa was quite prosperous, with a low fertility rate (yes even blacks) and a population of about 20 million. I am not defending apartheid, but the average South African black was not doing too badly, certainly not compared to blacks on the rest of the continent. If things had been left like this, perhaps a way forward could have been found….

    But the elites hate high wages, so they began to import massive numbers of refugees from the rest of Africa. The population has by now been almost tripled and still growing rapidly. Of course, this made the elites richer but the working class poorer. That’s always social dynamite. It will never get covered in the western media, but the South African blacks of the time were protesting as much if not more about immigration as apartheid…

    OK, so now there is a black South African government. And it continues to import massive numbers of immigrants from the rest of Africa, and it condemns any opponents of this abusive cheap-labor policy as ‘racist’. But as wages fall, there has to be an enemy, a scapegoat, to deflect the anger of all these impoverished workers. And whites have been chosen. The black elites don’t care if the country falls apart. They need to re-direct the anger of the people onto the whites, so they can keep control. Certainly the rulers of South Africa themselves won’t go hungry if agriculture collapses.

    An old story: cheap labor will give the elites profits today, but at the expense of stability tomorrow. And greed at least is color blind.

    • Agree: cassandra
    • Replies: @Ploskina
    , @kissinger
  9. I wonder… when it is time for “Israel” to hand over stolen Palestinian land, will Israelis wring their hands thinking their previous actions didn’t deserve rancor.

    Also, if South African blacks are successful at getting their land back it could be a catalyst for Palestine to repatriate their land back from its occupiers.

  10. @Rational

    “When blacks rule America”

    Where dah metal and petrol for fuel?

    Muh dick….

    “Immigration bomb”

    Hey Cuz, the Mexican Sonora cartel moved next door and they are growing coca…sizzled dem boulders (Crack rock cocaine) blooodd…

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  11. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:

    It is wrong for the Black African South Africans on the very continent of African to take land from White South Africans but its ok for Foreign Euro-White Jewish Palestinians (aka Israeli Zionist) to take land from the indigenous Brown Arab Palestinians in Arabia. I hear many White people cheering Trump chiming in on this issue as if America has any legitimacy to voice its moral opinion on this thus throwing raw meat to his Alt Right Proud (White) Boys. The sheer hypocrisy is stomach wrenching.

    I don’t agree with this policy, but so many Americans analysis of this issue is really one dimensional, politically and historically disingenuous. As if Black Africans who run African states are suppose to somehow be ahistorical and rationally proportionate when trying to rectify historical injustices which happen to their race/tribes and if they are not than they are some worthy of disparage but its ok for Japanese and Chinese, White Russians and Saudi Arabians to rule their nations on the basis of their ethnic…racial..historical position.

    True respect for humanity is an appreciation that all human communities are tribal and seek to reassert and regain their dignity and ownership of their property in their own realm. This goes for Germans or Zulus, Filipinos or Vietnamese, Arab Palestinians or Berber Algerians.

    Those who have neither the will nor the resistance to engage in this kind of human conflict/competition for their dignity and property in their own realm end up annihilated or living in a ghostly stupor (read Native Americans and Aborigines of Australia, New Zealand etc.).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jacques sheete
  12. You can be sure that there will be no seizure of gold and diamond mines in SA. Whitey can be carelessly robbed but upset certain other parties and SA will get war.
    This dumb leadership will destroy their own country like Zimbabwe did and become (even more like) putty in the hands of international banking thieves who care NOTHING for the general well-being of either colour of South African.

  13. Come to Australia. Our new Chinese and Indian Australians aren’t likely to stand for primitives killing the golden goose.

  14. The book
    ´Als die Deutschen weg waren, Was nach der Vertreibung geschah: Ostpreussen, Schlesien, Sudetenland’, 2005, 2007, Reinbek, Adrian von Arburg, Wlodzimierz Borodziej, Jurij Kostjaschow, Ulla Lachauer, Hand-Dieter Rutsch, Beate Schlanstein, Christian Schulz
    describes the economic downfall in E European areas where the Germans were expelled.
    In maybe fifty years from now a book possibly appears with the title:
    What happened after the expulsion of the whites from South Africa.
    Expelling those who keep the economy going of course is possible, but it is quite expensive.
    At the same time, if we whites do not resist the effort to make us disappear, the same will, I expect, happen all over the world.
    A new Dark Age is at the horizon.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  15. If some inner [US] cities are anything to go by…

    I”d leave and immigrate to Russia. South Africa will be another banana republic within a generation.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  16. President Trump’s resolve to sic Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on the case is possibly the first impassioned, official, American reaction to what a genocide expert has been warning about.

    Amen. One of his best moves, whatever the cause.

  17. Dante says:

    I wonder how likely it could be that in time the Boers could have their own state perhaps on the Bosnia Herzegovina model ? One would hope that the more Nationalist or Nationalist inspired parties coming to power in Europe would be more likely to help White South Africans should the dreadful treatment they experience become steadily worse. If anyone is interested you can read about the Suitlanders movement in S Africa who are actively preparing for the worst as we speak, They are going to play an important role in times to come

    • Replies: @neutral
  18. @Anonymous

    “Does anyone remember how manic all the ‘good thinkers’ were about boycotting South Africa a generation ago? They’re awfully quiet now.”

    No, they’re pulling down statues and symbols of our “sordid past,” and they’re working on starting reparations and expropriations here in the so-called Developed world.

    • Agree: mark green
  19. Realist says:

    Anti-white whites are the stupidest of all. When change comes they must be dealt with first.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  20. Realist says:

    Here is how taking land legally currently works, in South Africa, a place the US State Department has only just lauded as “a strong democracy with resilient institutions…,” a country merely “grappling with the difficult issue of land reform.” “Land reform,” of course, is a euphemism for land distribution in the Robert Mugabe mold.

    But your hero Trump is in charge of the State Department…..at least ostensibly.

  21. “Classification of whites as The Other has occurred. And attendant symbols of this hatred have been developed and are ingrained in the culture.”

    It’s well underway in the U.S.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  22. RVBlake says:

    I am astounded that Trump actually tweeted the word “white”. His assigning Pompeo to “closely study” the situation is a gigantic shift in sensibilities, but I have to wonder to what end? Still, at least he is noticing. The Left’s reaction should be entertaining.

  23. @Daniel Rich

    It already is, or even was.

    • Agree: Bubba
  24. @Stephen Paul Foster

    It seems to be world wide, in the Netherlands blacks organised a ‘march for civilisation’.

  25. neutral says:
    @Dante

    And how do you think that will work with a president Kamala Harris? The USA will not accept any state that is formed by whites, it will most likely attack any such state from the start.

  26. TheJester says:

    “If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.” — George Bernard Shaw

    Said another way …

    “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.” — Karl Marx

    It is inevitable that South Africa will soon resemble Zimbabwe and the rest of Black Africa … poverty-stricken and unable to feed itself as it devolves into just another Black African “shithole”. Prodded by White SJWs, the UN will plead with the West to feed South Africa’s starving millions as the famine worsens. The West will respond as it reacts to yet another cycle of “claims-of-victimization followed by the confiscation of wealth” until all of sub-Saharan Africa is on the Western dole.

    However, a new wrinkle in the historical scenario is emerging. When the land, industry, and most everything else of value lay fallow, the South African Bantu will queue up with their Black brothers further north to immigrate to Europe and the Americas. There, they will quickly learn to survive by continuing to protest their oppression by Whites … as they repeat their “claims-of-victimization followed by the confiscation of wealth” produced by others.

    References:

    Famine in Africa

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2027079.stm

    Black Zimbabweans Suffer in Land Reform

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2414713.stm

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  27. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    White Christians need to re-double their efforts to help transform the lives of Blacks with the word-magic of Jewsus, just like in Acts 8:26-40 with the Apostle Philip and the Ethiopian. Maybe the Holy Spirit will even provide magical Star Trek tele-transporter services like in verse 39. Just pray with your eyes squeezed tight, Jewsus can’t say no if you ask in his Jewish name. (John 14:13) Surely blacks will act more white, in spite of Africanized genetics, if they get Jewsaved. Magic dirt doesn’t work, but Magic Jew does! Deus Vult!

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  28. DanFromCT says:
    @ThereisaGod

    What the author avoids telling us is the hand in this evil puppet Ramaphosa that’ll buy up all the farmland once the blood dries in this slow motion genocide, kept slow enough to be covered up by the msm. Reminds me of a similar ploy being played out in another breadbasket, Ukraine.

    The author mentions that the ‘US’ has been praising democracy in SA—I’m not surprised—and pretty soon we’ll learn that referring to ‘the US’ is actually a thinly veiled form of anti-semitism, you see, for the the same reason that referring to Wall Street, Hollywood, TV, the MSM, banking, pornography, and so forth supposedly is.

  29. He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner.

    Someone should tell that to the Zio-Commies who run the world.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Anonymous
  30. See, the country no longer enjoys the impressive Western system of Roman-Dutch law it once enjoyed. Lax law and poorly protected property rights signal a free-for-all on the lives of white owners and their livestock

    I’ll say one thing for Ms Mercer. She’s at least consistent in her continued pot stirring. Juvenile, hypocritical, and transparent, but consistent nonetheless.

    Among this small white population, insecurely encamped amid dark masses on the southern tip of Africa, grudges and fears persisted. I met no man who did not speak, sooner or later, of the Boer’s hostility to the British or of the menace of the Native.

    For third parties, international aspirants to world power who sought to raise the dark man against the white one, and to divide the white men among themselves, South Africa was a land of opportunity.

    -Douglas Reed, Somewhere South of Suez, pp 22-3, (1951)

    https://ia801406.us.archive.org/32/items/SomewhereSouthOfSuez/suez.pdf

    Apparently the place is still a land of opportunity for third parties, international aspirants to world power. Gee, I wonder who that could be…

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @CaptainDindu
  31. @Realist

    Anti-white whites are the stupidest of all. When change comes they must be dealt with first.

    That applies especially to the fake “Semitic” gangsters with roots in Eastern Europe. They should have been properly dealt with many decades ago.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. Blah Blah Blah,

    Property rights only exist to the degree that they can be backed by force just ask the Palestinians what happened to their property rights or the Russian and Chinese landlords when the commies took over. Once you lose political power you are at the mercy of the majority.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  33. @TheJester

    There, they will quickly learn to survive by continuing to protest their oppression by Whites … as they repeat their “claims-of-victimization followed by the confiscation of wealth” produced by others.

    It seems, therefore, that blacks are able to learn from their “betters” aka Zionists. And all along I’ve been led to believe that they are of low IQ! Go figure.

    Like Chicago and Los Angeles in America, Johannesburg in South Africa appears to approach a state of lawlessness; officials who are tempted to show zeal in upholding the law sometimes complain of mysterious intimidations and relegations, and of the ‘framed’ accusation, ‘pinned’ on the zealot. Like Berlin twenty years ago and New York today, Johannesburg is well supplied with Communist and Zionist book-shops, literature, newspapers, films and talk. Its night-clubs, too, reminded me of Berlin; in one I felt I was back at the Haus Vaterland and almost expected to see the mechanical thunderstorm on the Rhine. To the traveller fresh from London, where motorists were driven from the roads by every means short of machine-guns, the number of its American cars was astonishing.

    -Douglas Reed, Somewhere South of Suez, p 21, (1951)

    https://ia801406.us.archive.org/32/items/SomewhereSouthOfSuez/suez.pdf

    Notice that he wrote that nearly 70 years ago.If he wrote this today he could have added “Like Chicago, Los Angeles, DC, New York, St Louis, etc. etc., “ad infinitum.

  34. RVBlake says:
    @attilathehen

    I thought I had read somewhere about the father’s anti-apartheid activities…Didn’t know about the expulsion.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  35. Ploskina says: • Website
    @TG

    Do you have sources on this? Are there articles that I could read that lay out this case? I’d like to make a video about this eventually. Thanks!

  36. @jacques sheete

    Real power (ownership) comes out of the barrel of a gun. The guy with the gun allows you to “own” your property.
    Just so long as you keep up the tax payments. Or bribes. Or interest. The form of the wealth transfer to the gun owner can take many forms.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Them Guys
  37. South Africa has become a net importer of food for the first time in its history.

    The scene from Fair Game in taxi cab “both me and you know that Freetown is a shithole” comes to mind. RSA is finished, the fate of white people notwithstanding. Chinese will pour in, what’s left is for the West, in its attempt at least on some redemption, is to take care of Boers by supporting and resettling them. The experiment has failed. I do not want to go into the possibility of the war there.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  38. @neutral

    When Barack Obama hit the national scene I couldn’t imagine that he would be elected. In 2012 I thought he wouldn’t be reelected. I’m a slow learner.

    But Kamala Harris as POTUS?

    Well, I saw her face; now I’m a believer.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  39. backup says:
    @neutral

    The Boers should retreat to the Kaap and team up with the Coloreds, who also speak Afrikaans, and declare independency. Large parts of the Coloreds ancestry is the orginal Khoi-San population from the Kaap. This will give them justification for that state. They must feel that this whole thing might just not leave them untouched.

  40. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Speaking of Zio-Commies who run the world, was anybody dumb enough to shove a Jew Testament in Blacks’ hands to help “transform” their lives?

    Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them…and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Acts 4:35

    One thing leads to another.

    Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property…[couple gets murdered for the money]…Great fear seized all the Chumps who heard about these events. Acts 5:11

    P.S. South African President Cyril Ramaphosa is a Christian gud boi with Jewsus in his heart, “born into a Christian family,” and “head of the Student Christian Movement.” http://buzzsouthafrica.com/cyril-ramaphosa-facts-biography/

    P.P.S. “….primitive Christianity is Bolshevism.” -Ludwig von Mises (Socialism, p. 413)

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Malla
  41. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Are you saying that fair-haired, blue-eyed, surfer-boy Jewsus who is pictured in so many churches is a “fake ‘Semetic’” savior? I’d agree.

    The Real Jew savior was “gangster” too, not respecting a farmer’s private property.

    At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. Matthew 12:1

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  42. If Trump is so interested in these people, why doesn’t he invite them to come to the US? They’re white, very strict Calvinists and they all speak English.

    • Replies: @mark green
  43. Rurik says:

    forcing you to leave your land. And then they say: ‘Oh well, there’s vacant land, let’s move on to it.’

    It’s a very subtle way of stealing land.”

    now golly..

    where else has that trick been used?

    “A land without a people for a people without a land.”

    In 1948, right on the heels of the Nuremburg trials, when the international Jewish community was still hectoring the world for allowing Hitler to mistreat them.. it seems some Jews wandered into villages like Deir Yassin in Palestine, and they found them mysteriously uninhabited.

    So naturally they settled in. And why not? “There’s vacant land, let’s move on to it”

    Such a deal!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  44. @Rational

    will steal their land and their women too.

    Don’t think so. White women are already given themselves to blacks, any way. Browns women are prettier and nicer for browns to want white women. Even whites don’t want them, they are feminists, and not lady like at all. All my friends married Philippine women; can’t stand feminists, who care only about money and their carriers. So don’t worry, white women will go happily to their big black guys, as many are doing now. Just ask a white woman to cook, clean and threat you right, and you will find out, how horrible they are inside!

  45. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Well said. White people are forgetting an awful lot of history here and as white people are prone to do are being incredibly hypocritical.

  46. Watching says:

    To characterize S. Africa’s land as “private property” is laughable. To suggest that S. Africa should prove ownership of it’s own land is even more laughable. The land in question was stolen from the nation by a militarized gang of vicious, racist thieves. The land in question is STOLEN PROPERTY. This land must be recovered and returned to it’s rightful owner, the nation of S. Africa. How S. Africa chooses to distribute the land after it’s recovery is nobody’s business but S. Africa’s. I understand the anxiety produced by recovering stolen property from the perpetrators, we see this with common car thieves. No crook wants to suffer the penalty of his criminal act. No matter, S. Africa MUST perform the will of it’s people and recover this stolen land.

  47. @HallParvey

    All true.

    The form of the wealth transfer to the gun owner can [and does] take many forms.

    That simple concept is beyond the understanding of, probably, around 98% of my fellow ‘Merkins, however, and I would like to know if there’s a way around that.

  48. @Anonymous

    “….primitive Christianity is Bolshevism.” -Ludwig von Mises (Socialism, p. 413)

    Actually, Bolshevism is “Christianity” [Paulianity, really] perverted to the max. I’m not sure that ancient Christians advocated or engaged in mass murder much.

    Your points are well taken, however. It’s pretty much all a huge fraud and con-job, I think.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. beau says:

    the hypocrisy of the u. s. govt is on display. white apartheid bad; black apartheid OK.

    when the ultimate outcome of this racist policy – starvation – comes to the fore, the response should be: LET THEM EAT CAKE. at least in this case, as they are responsible directly, the response would be appropriate.

    any ‘aid’ would only do as it has done in the past: prop up the thugs and criminals.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  50. @Anonymous

    Are you saying that fair-haired, blue-eyed, surfer-boy Jewsus who is pictured in so many churches is a “fake ‘Semetic’” savior? I’d agree.

    I wasn’t thinking about that guy, but it’s long fascinated me that the “World Savior” was, of course, a Jew. However, I guess they aren’t as great as they imagine, since that doesn’t seem to have worked out too well. At least he seems to have made fools of the Pharisees for all the good that it did!

    As for stealing corn, I looked, and it’s not clear whose corn it was.Perhaps they had permission; I don’t know and probably never will.

  51. @Anonymous

    Those who have neither the will nor the resistance to engage in this kind of human conflict/competition for their dignity and property in their own realm end up annihilated or living in a ghostly stupor (read Native Americans and Aborigines of Australia, New Zealand etc.).

    Read also middle class and working class ‘Merkins, too. If anyone thinks otherwise, (s)he can read go Linh Dinh.

  52. sds says:

    That state department comment is dystopian. Is there any institution that Trump is actually influencing?

  53. @ThereisaGod

    …and become (even more like) putty in the hands of international banking thieves who care NOTHING for the general well-being of either colour of South African.

    Or anyone else for that matter. I can’t wait to see the day when they toss their own dupes under the bus like the “Commies” did. It’ll happen, count on it. Zio-trolls, did you see what I wrote?

  54. @DanFromCT

    [they'll buy up all the farmland once the blood dries in this slow motion genocide, kept slow enough to be covered up by the msm. Reminds me of a similar ploy being played out in another breadbasket, Ukraine.

    I bet one of the original models of that was what happened during the so called US civil war, which really was a banker’s war against the planters. Guess who got the goodies?

  55. @beau

    …the hypocrisy of the u. s. govt is on display. white apartheid bad; black apartheid OK.

    Zio-apartheid obviously OK too.

  56. @Grahamsno(G64)

    I may be wrong but I understand that only about 7 per cent of Palestine consisted of freehold titles under the Ottoman Turks and that much of that was bought by or for the early Zionists. I don ‘t know how secure or transferable most Arab Palestinians’ titles or licenses were. Have you any idea what the situation has been for Arabs with old Ottoman freehold titles (I admit to not knowing if that is a valid description of the best title)? Presumably if they were still in Israel after its creation they would have been secure. But if they had been ethnically cleansed? And what if one family member – or a non family agent or manager – had risked staying behind? There must have been at least some cases like those. What happened would be interesting and telling.

  57. republic says:

    A very impressive documentary, Farmlands, by Lauren Southern.
    She made a trip to South Africa last January to document those farm murders
    after Trump’s recent tweet, it got millions of new viewers

    also a good video is this

    The crisis in South Africa/Ernst Roets ,Sefan Molyneux

    Ernst Roets just published a book,

    KILL THE BOER: GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY IN SOUTH AFRICA’S BRUTAL FARM MURDERS

    https://www.amazon.com/KILL-BOER-GOVERNMENT-COMPLICITY-AFRICAS-ebook/dp/B07GH3M8XM

    • Replies: @Lost american
  58. Grumbler says:
    @Watching

    Watching, fair enough but when black SA starves, as it surely will, then the blacks will have no one to blame but themselves. And you can bet they will come begging to the evil White man for help. Too bad for them. Rejecting Whiteness comes with a cost.

    • Replies: @Watching
  59. Rurik says:

    cows poisoned with exotic substances, battered with heavy metal bars, writhing in agony for hours before being found by a distraught farmer.

    I remember watching a video many years ago about the land seizures in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, and there was a scene I’ll never be able to forget, when they showed what the orcs had done to some of the cows. Mercifully the video is no longer on the Internet, but what they did was hack the main tendon of the cow’s rear leg, and so as the beast tried to move, their rear legs would separate in a horror show made even more ghastly by the agonized sound the cows would make.

    Yes, they often tortured the farmers and their families, burning them alive and other horrors. And their hatred was fueled by Mugabe’s and other’s exhortations of “racists”, (as we’re all barraged with here in the zio-west 24/7-365). So the black’s hatred for the whites was driven over the brink by the media and demagogues. (sort of what’s happening now in this country, if on a milder scale). So perhaps the murderous hatred for other humans, (perceived as “racists”) can be understood, if not justified. But doing what they did to those cows, made me less sympathetic to the plight of such orcs. Any ‘human’ that would do that to a cow, was not worthy of self-rule.

    But what is obvious to me, is that virtually no one in the zio-west has even heard about Zimbabwe. Not one in a thousand people in the zio-west even knows what Zimbabwe is. Let alone its tragic recent history.

    And there’s a reason for that. It’s the same reason not one in a thousand people know what Deir Yassin is. Or even what the Golan Heights is.

    Because our information is all controlled by the (((media))) and (((government institutions))). And that media and those institutions are all controlled by Jewish supremacists who have used their media and power to doom the white people of Rhodesia, (and now S. Africa) to genocide – with ((their)) damnable silence.

    Just as with the rest of the doomed Western world, where the media hysterically laud transformational immigration as the solution to all our problems.

    Ms. Mercer knows who (((owns))) and controls the media in the dying (murdered) West.

    Rhodesia did not fall militarily to the black racist Marxists. No. What doomed them was pressure from the ((west)). From London and others who were calling them “racists!”. This was unbearable to the whites of Rhodesia. Their self-esteem was being undermined, and so they capitulated.

    Exactly like South Africa.

    I remember it all. All those execrable, self-important celebrities and Hollywood types braying their ‘moral outrage’. Sting and Bruce ‘the boss’ Springsteen failing to play concerts, was just too much for the tender sensibilities of the South African people.

    They caved into (((western))) pressure to hand over their nation and destiny to the tender mercies of murderous black supremacists and Marxist terrorists.

    And all of it to the thunderous cheers of the (((western press))) and assorted western leaders = (whores of zion)

    If there’s one thing I’ve learned about how the world and people operate, is that you can glimmer a thousand times more from people’s silence, than you ever can by their loud and boisterous lies.

    And if it were up to CNN and the rest of the (((western media))), every last white man, woman and child in South Africa could be butchered (literally), cooked in pots and eaten in feasts – to the ubiquitous sound of crickets the length and breath of the zio-controlled (((western media))).

    That’s what I know.

    Just as they treat black on white crime in the ZUSA and elsewhere. With crickets.

    So, as Ms. Mercer points out, it is heroic Tucker Carlson, who (alone it seems) is raising the alarm.

    Last night he showed videos of one of the major black supremacist politicians calling for the wholesale slaughter of whites. (Not yet tho! The time is not quite right, just yet…)

    So it is a glimmer of hope, that at least one network is willing to buck the zio-uniformity, and mention the whites of South Africa, and their plight.

    Whether it’s in Palestine, or South Africa, people are entitled to self-determination. The whites of Zimbabwe and now, it seems South Africa, have doomed their children and grandchildren to genocide. They wanted the ((western press)) and assorted celebrities to ‘like’ them.

    A lot of good that did them.

    Now they should go all out Peter and Linda Biehl

    http://cdn2.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article25054172.ece/ad446/ALTERNATES/h342/embrace

    it order to virtue signal to the celebrities and Jewish supremacists in Hollywood and NYC, London and Paris – and receive status and accolades, Linda Biehl is seen there embracing one of the black supremacists that butchered her daughter, Amy

    this is the way of the future.

    If you want to rise up in our world, and become a celebrity of sorts, then just encourage your children to hate their own race, to hate themselves, and hopefully, with any luck, your children can be cut down by race-hatred consumed orcs, and then you too can be the darling of ((western media)) and all kinds of celebrities and the cocktail party circuit!

    Weeeeeeeeee…

    We can all play a role in this new zio-realm!

    http://i1.wp.com/olivetjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Molech.Edit_.Glendale.jpg?resize=536%2C600

  60. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Watching

    I have never been to South Africa but I would be ashamed to be as ignorant as you and doubly ashamed to wrote about something in an opinionated way as if I knew what I was talking about when I knew nothing.

    Unless you are proposing (fantasising) that there was some kind of Khoi San nation in what is now the Cape Province when the Dutch arrived o settle in 1653 (or earlier) the idea that a whole lot of Bantu late arrivals who happen to multiply too fast thanks to Western medicine should lay claim to land that the Boers made productive is absurd. You might as well try removing Norman descendants from English lands, or indeed from Normandie where their Viking ancestors settled.

    BTW how can anyone steal land from anyone identifiable before there is a functioning policy with land laws?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Watching
  61. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    Thanks, jacques, for being a good sport while I make my point that Christianity is inherently Jewdeo. I’m beginning to come to the conclusion that Christianity was a deliberate “original antifa” movement to destroy White Roman Fascist culture. Which it actually did.

    306–337 CE Christianity began to transition to the dominant religion of the Roman Empire
    400–800 CE Various famines in Western Europe associated with the Fall of the Western Roman Empire. (wiki/List_of_famines)

    Europe survived Christianity best when people couldn’t read, and the Church jerry-rigged the theology via creative interpretation and could whitewash the worst in the Jew Testament with European teachings of “tradition.” But now everybody can read the Jewish poison, the anti-family, anti-wealth, anti-nation passages found throughout the Jew Testament. After the printing press, whitewashing the Jewdeo garbage becomes a full time task of theologians.

    Not surprisingly Cyril Ramaphosa is a Christian, and takes it pretty seriously.

    A few days ago ANC deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa, while addressing a congregation at the Pentecostal Holiness Church’s centennial celebrations in Rustenburg, said Christians needed to “become the moral conscience of our country” and that “this country cares for the Lord” and recognised God’s importance and hegemony.

    Opinion: Ramaphosa’s ‘Christianity to the rescue’ call

    http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-06-00-opinion-the-politics-of-religion

    I see darkness being pushed back, I see darkness being pushed back, by the power of angelic forces; Holy angels, ablaze with fire; Holy angels, ministers of fire; Holy angels, descending and pushing the darkness back, pushing the darkness back, pushing the darkness back. I hear the sound of victory, I hear the sound of a trumpet, I hear the sound of breakthrough, I hear the sound of rushing waters, I hear the sound, I hear the sound of breakthrough for you tonight, I hear the sound of breakthrough for you tonight, I hear the sound of the tribe, yes I hear the sound of the tribe of the Lion of Judah. I hear the sound of a lion roar, I hear the sound of a victory call, I hear the sound of a power shout, I hear the sound of the fight in the night, I hear the sound, the sound of victory, I hear the sound of resurrection power, I hear the sound of joy in this hour, I hear the sound of righteousness of God, I hear the sound of peace and I hear a trumpet blast, and I hear a cry, ‘victory, victory, victory has come to the earth.’ Hallelujah. Listen there is a sound of victory in the air, as you clap your hands tonight there is a sound of victory in the air, as you clap your hands there is victory everywhere, there is victory that overcomes despair. I hear the sound of victory in this place tonight, and as you clap your hands, there is a fright in the night, I hear the sound of victory tonight, and as you clap your hands, it is piercing the darkness of the night. For Israel, yes for Israel, I hear the victory of God tonight, come on, I hear the victory of God tonight, I hear the sound of victory, I hear it go across the sea, into, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel. Say it with me, ‘Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.’ Victory, victory, victory, victory, for Israel. Say Israel, ‘Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.’ You say Israel, (Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel) Victory, ‘Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.’ I hear the sound of victory, say, ‘Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.’ Hallelujah, hallelujah.

    I hear The Sound Of Victory Tonight / Cyril Ramaphosa
    Recorded 8 June 2014

    http://www.destiny.co.za/prophecy/cyril-ramaphosa/

    Sweet Jewsus, it looks like black Christians believe in Deus Vult too.

  62. @Rurik

    The execrable Guardian finally deigned to comment on it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/24/south-africa-condemns-false-claims-as-trump-white-farmers-row-continues

    The best quote:

    The murders on farms are a reflection of the security situation in South Africa. There is absolutely no evidence that the violence is aimed at white farmers,” said Gareth Newham, the head of the crime and justice programme at the Institute for Security Studies in Pretoria.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  63. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    and fears persisted. I met no man who did not speak, sooner or later, of the Boer’s hostility to the British or of the menace of the Native.

    Well Jacques, considering that the British had invented actual concentration death camps for the families of the Dutch farmers, whose heroic guerrilla efforts were holding off the zio-British fiends, who were waging aggressive war in order to steal the land and resources (gold and diamonds) for the benefit of Rothschild’s De Beers corps, and billionaire ((Oppenheimer))…

    I would say it’s understandable that the Dutch should have resented their women and children being killed off in such a way, no?

    He wrote that in 1951, and the British zio-war was waged on South Africa at the turn of the century.

    So certainly many, many Dutch who were alive at the time- must have remembered the death camps, (probably lost loves ones inside them), and knew all too well why the cowardly British had waged that demonic war against them. – In order to steal their resources on behalf of wealthy and powerful Jewish supremacists.

    How little things change in just a century, eh?

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @jacques sheete
  64. Last week USPS postal services delivered a package meant for me to the incorrect address. The postal deliverer, remembers expressly where she placed it. They have denied receiving my package. It has my initials and my address. But based on this premise

    “He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner. “As the old legal adage goes, ‘Possession is nine-tenths of the law,’ as it is the best evidence in our uncertain world of legitimate title. The burden of proof rests squarely with the person attempting to alter and abolish present property titles.”

    they got to it before me and therefore they as possessors are the rightful owners. What white Europeans did was to negotiate a right to use the land and then proceeded to change the nature of that use.via manufactured titles not from the original occupants but their own governing authorities, who negotiated the use, not as owners but more akin to renters — that’s the story in a nutshell. The government then treated the rental property as ownership merely based on occupation. and by force enforced it. The titles are without the original occupants approval or signature hence the african resistance — as soon as trhey figured exactly what their renters were doing.

    What Mrs Mercer places on the table here ios an abject incorrect, if not outright lie of the property exchange. Hence the reliance on the issue of titles, strictly a western or european and other world creation., apart from most african practice. The real advance being made is might makes right, unless the might power dynamic shifts.

    Tut tut Ms Mercer.

    If we are to have an honest discussion, then the rightful owner by titile of oral or other agreement to the original peoples tend or practice.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  65. That is exactly the dynamic that played out here in the US save one difference, the evidence is blatantly clear of the violations of written agreements by the US government.

    The occupations that took place on the African Continent had few oif any actually clearly defined territorial arrangements. Note: that is my recollection of the record. If there is proodf otherwise to the original understandings, I would be open to observing them.

    L’est any foolish attacks come my way via I support murder — nonsense. Nut Having already addressed this issue, what has been taking place in SA is exaggerated nonsense because the record over the ;last twenty or thirty years is that there is not mass killings routinely to take white property, despite the advertising otherwise. And my last comment on this issue presented the relevant data to support the challenge to the narrative.

  66. Rurik says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    There is absolutely no evidence that the violence is aimed at white farmers,”

    South Africa: ‘shoot to kill the Boer’ chanting by the EFF Leader

    Julius Malema is a Member of Parliament

    He was described by both Zuma[4] and the Premier of Limpopo Province as the “future leader” of South Africa.[5

    In June 2018, Malema gained additional notoriety when he was asked whether he was responsible for organizing gang members to murder white farmers, and responded "Maybe. Maybe not."[18]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Malema

    What the execrable Guardian is doing, is simply keeping up with the traditions of (((western))) journalism going back to Walter Duranty’s Pulitzer Prize winning reporting of the mass genocide of millions of Ukrainian farmers during the Holodomor. Basically blaming the genocide on the victims.

    That’s how it’s done in the zio-world of the Fiend.

    Murder people off, genocide them, and then blame them for it all, and call yourself the victims.

    The Jewish supremacist media (the execrable Guardian) will hail you as a great statesman.

    I didn’t live during the 1930s, when the Holodomor was in full swing. But I have seen relentless atrocities unfold right and left in my lifetime, and in every case, it is always lied about by the Jewish supremacist media.

    Those “wackos” at Waco, did that to themselves. They set the fires and then stayed in the burning building because they were wackos.

    The baby incubators.

    Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.

    Putin attacked Ukraine

    Assad uses chemical weapons against his own people

    Iran is building the bomb and sponsoring terrorism

    >><<

    when black orcs torture white people to death, it is always, without exception.. a random crime.

    Race never has anything to do with it EVER, if the victim is white and the perp black or brown or whatever.

    The hatred that Jewish supremacists have for white folks is so beyond my understanding that it defies comprehension.

    The ONLY reason the whites of Zimbabwe or South Africa (or anywhere else on the planet) are being menaced or genocided, is due 100% to the intrigues of Jewish supremacists who control the media, and therefor the narrative and the politicians, in near absolute terms.

    If Trump said we should offer sanctuary to the whites of South Africa, then if you think you’d heard screeching from the zio-media that Trump = Hitler!, then I’ll tell you that you haven’t seen NOTHING yet.

  67. If we have to point to south Africa to stoke votes via emotional irrelevant issues — the party is in more trouble than I thought.

    • Troll: Rurik
  68. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    How little things change in just a century, eh?

    You know, that remark just set off a little spark in my brain – and as that happens so rarely these days, I had to share it ;)

    One thing that did change is that Great Britain is not a great power anymore, so it can’t fight the supremacists’ colonial wars; that role has been filled for a good while now by the U.S. This leads us to the increasingly obvious decline of U.S. power. Once that decline is complete, who is going to fill the enforcer role?

    Is that question behind the fight going on among the Washington elites – on the one side, MIC predators who want to continue to bleed America dry; and on the other side, supremacists who want to “make America great again,” so that it may continue to serve as their enforcer? Is this the rationale behind the strange alliance between Trump and Israel?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  69. History repeats itself! Does anyone remember the fates of the American Indians in the old days and the fact that the Indians never recovered from the atrocities forced upon them? How soon we forget how the EU whites exploited Africa until apartheid was no longer acceptable! Sometimes payback is like hell and everyone should get used to it!

  70. @Rurik

    ” Whether it’s in Palestine, or South Africa, people are entitled to self-determination ”
    Why, because Wilson around 1917 said so ?
    At the time almost all diplomats were of the opinion that Wilson opened a can of worms, what he did.
    Wars all over the place after Versailles implemented this self determination.
    Historians suspect that his self determination was aimed at the break up of the Habsburg, German and Ottoman empires.
    There never was any self determination in the British empire, nor for Indians in the USA.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  71. @Anonymous

    I’m beginning to come to the conclusion that Christianity was a deliberate “original antifa” movement to destroy White Roman Fascist culture.

    I’ve done my share of wondering about that too. The similarities between the Roman empire and subsequent ones fits a pattern that’s hard to ignore.

    Have you read Fry’s pamphlet? i don’t remember if she mentioned Rome, but it fits the pattern she describes.

    Henceforth, Britain will do the bidding of her real masters ; she has
    become the tool of the schemers against all she holds dear, namely, her
    faith, her patriotism, traditions, civilisation. She grants the “ returned ”
    aliens equality of civil rights ; they may and do become mayors over
    Christian population, and within a short time Britain is ruled by a
    Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli, first and foremost a Jew and the
    flunkey of the powerful Rothschild financiers.

    One of the consequences of this disastrous political mistake is the
    transformation of the national attitude of Great Britain and her
    colonies into that of the British Empire. Disraeli who inspired it
    knew what he was scheming for, the British people did not. But with
    him, Zionism is carried up to the very heights of the British Throne, a
    Zionist World Empire is on the high road to realisation.

    -Leslie Fry, “the Jews and the British Empire,” 1935

    https://archive.org/stream/FryLeslieTheJewsAndTheBritishEmpire/Fry_Leslie_-_The_jews_and_the_British_Empire_djvu.txt

    Also, there is no doubt in my mind that the Roman Catholic Church was long ago infiltrated by the usual suspects.

  72. @Anon

    What a nonsense.
    Ownership of land did not exist in many cultures, legally, so to speak.
    The land was ‘owned’ by who used it.
    Invading whites, including zionists in Palestine, did not respect local unwritten law.

    • Replies: @Anon
  73. @Rurik

    How little things change in just a century, eh?

    That, my fine friend is exactly why I made the comment. There certainly seems to be a pattern; Reed notes it, and so does Fry ( see my comment to anonymous) and like I said in one of my earlier comments above, Ms Mercer, is at least consistent in her Sh!t stirring. I’d laugh in her face if she thought she was in any way, original or clever.

    What annoys me the most is that the same tricks have consistently worked since at least the time of Marx and probably much longer.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  74. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.

    [MORE]

    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  75. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I am not necessarily claiming that all Blacks are low IQ, but such an argument can be made of Black Christians. Those fools who worship a man depicted as white, but still claim abuse by racism.

    Yo blacks, if you worship a white looking man, then shut up and take whatever shit the white “demi-gods” on earth dish out on you.

    Then there is the weird in-trance like behaviour, and the nonsensical ranting above.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Anonymous
    , @Dave Bowman
  76. @Rurik

    All points superb, especially this.

    The ONLY reason the whites of Zimbabwe or South Africa (or anywhere else on the planet) are being menaced or genocided, is due 100% to the intrigues of Jewish supremacists who control the media, and therefor the narrative and the politicians, in near absolute terms.

    Meanwhile, the Mercers of the world pretend to care about the whites, private property and what not.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    , @Rurik
  77. kissinger says:
    @TG

    In 1960 South Africa was quite prosperous, with a low fertility rate (yes even blacks) and a population of about 20 million.

    TFR in South Africa was approx. 6.5 in 1960s (Source: World Bank). So, one of your major points is wrong.

    Further, it is true that SA imported migrants from other African countries to work on mines, they were often not allowed to bring their families, and repatriated at the end of work contract (not unlike the current system in Gulf.)

    For a more comprehensive analysis of demographics of South Africa:

    http://www.library.uwa.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/102555/04_17_Siddique.pdf

    • Replies: @Bucky
  78. @jilles dykstra

    ” Whether it’s in Palestine, or South Africa, people are entitled to self-determination ”
    Why, because Wilson around 1917 said so ?

    Not because Wilson said so, but because it was a nice sounding pretext for subverting independent people. Now that the goal has been pretty well implemented, self-determination is out of fashion and now we’re supposed to embrace “globalism” and some sort of mobster dominated one world slave state.

  79. nsa says:

    To summarize the Mercer article: Africa would be a great place but for all those frigging Africans. And if present demographic trends continue, there will be 5 billion of them by the year 2050.

    • Replies: @Bucky
  80. Malla says:

    This is nothing black vs White, this is globalist elites using their communist arm who in turn are using blacks as weapons against White South Africans.

    Some snippets from Douglas Reed’s book ‘South of the Suez’ will throw some light on this conspiracy.

    “The dark man wants to see the white man’s town, to earn a few coins, to buy enchanting
    things in the white man’s bazaars. One day he disappears from the kraal and travels perhaps
    hundreds of miles through scrub and bush. He slips across the frontier and soon another lost one
    joins Johannesburg’s dark legion. These men forget their native land, their people, the laws and
    customs they once obeyed. They become almost as rootless as the Negroes of America. From the
    ranks of the white men one welcoming hand is extended to them, in the spirit in which Mephisto
    gave his to Faust over a good bargain (but these men have never heard of Faust). The Communist Party courts them, tells them the white man hates them and they must hate the white man and drive him one day into the sea. The driving-power of the Communist Party is supplied, as in other countries, by men from Eastern Europe, or the children of such. The newcomer thought himself lucky, perhaps, to put behind him the dullness of village life and come to the city. He was not aggrieved, but now white men tell him how badly treated he is. ”

    “In England a chief Communist objective is to prevent emigration, particularly to
    Africa and to South Africa. Clearly Africa looms large in Communist plans for the second half of this century; supreme importance appears to be attached to preventing the rise of great white
    populations there, and South Africa is plainly seen as the key to this matter. This is the real reason for the constant attacks on South Africa in London’s Leftist newspapers. Similarly, in South Africa the Communists actively support the campaign against The Immigrants, telling the rural Afrikaner that ‘the Jingoes’ will swamp his Afrikanerdom and the Natal British that they will encroach on employment and housing. The South African newspapers’ practice of publishing pseudonymous letters facilitates this agitation; obviously doubtful epistles, expressing violent distaste for South Africa, appear over such signatures as ‘Blighty for me’, ‘I’ve had it’, and so on. ”

    “It is quite easy to understand this technique … If England can be kept in a weakened
    condition by over-population, and Canada prevented from becoming stronger by under-population
    and industrial development, they both become an easy prey for Communist aggression.’ ”

    “The long arms of those two great forces which appear to me to join in wreaking the havoc of our
    time reach even into this little fastness. The money-power and the revolutionary-power both spread their grasp over it. In every little town stands the office of the Mines Recruiting Corporation, and through its doors passes the constant stream of Basuto going to Johannesburg to dig gold for entombment in Kentucky. In the reverse direction, across the mountains from Johannesburg, come the Communist organizers. Natives who have received ‘education’ in this sense and operate the little printing-presses in Maseru or work among the tribesmen. No land is too small or remote for the Communist Party if it offers the prospect of setting white man against dark one, tribesman against chief, or Boer against Briton, in pursuit of the larger design. ”

    “The Communist and Zionist newspapers maintain it in England and South Africa, but the great bulk of it comes from America, where I later studied it with fascination. It is an amazing example of the subtle encouragement of passions. Negro Communists are paraded as typical specimens of an oppressed race (the Negro population as a whole is unresponsive to Communism). Some guiding hand gives a specious trend to all literature and entertainment. The book supplements of the leading newspapers each week review a mass of books about ‘the colour bar’, and mysterious committees make ‘awards’ to many of these. If an objective book about the subject appears in some other country, it may be taken over and made into a play which proves to be anti-colour-bar propaganda. The theme is constantly introduced into radio programmes, films, dramatic plays and even musical plays; London playgoers will find it in some of the great American successes performed there in recent years. Most of the big newspapers ‘run’ it as incessantly as the comic-strips.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  81. Malla says:
    @Malla

    More snippets from another of Mr. Reed’s book ‘The Siege Of Southern Africa’, published in 1974

    “In Angola they are engaged, as they well know, in a war which they cannot militarily win because it is not a war at all, in any sense in which the word was ever used in history. It is an international conspiracy in which half the governments of the world join, wearing the mocking mask of moral indignation: Russian and Chinese Communists, American Quakers, British Socialists, Norwegian, Swedish and German Socialists. It can go on as long as hireling murderers can be enlisted by the promise of loot, women, private vengeance and political appointments. It can go on as long as America, Russia, China, “the satellite States”, Cuba and Algeria flood Africa with arms for these hirelings, and as long as the Socialist party in England and the Roosevelt school in America lavish money on them.”

    “The open frontal attack has not happened, or not yet, and the siege of Southern Africa which has been conducted during the last decade is of an entirely new nature. It is one of bombardment by falsehood, threat and menace from the body ludicrously called the “United Nations” in New York; of murder, arson and rapine by hired assassins on the borders of the four countries chiefly besieged; and of incitement by words and money gifts from innumerable “democratic” Governments and Communist “cover organizations” all over the world.”

    “These emissaries infiltrate into the Ovambo villages by night and “disturb and incite the tribespeople, particularly the young men, with tales of coming invasions patronized by the House of Helots in New York and limitlessly supplied with Chinese and Russian arms. The leftist-liberal world conspiracy has reached into this remote and peaceful pastoral community. ”

    “Mr. Ruark did not add what I will append here: these hideous miscreants were the proteges of those ravening wolves, the Liberals of New York, as well as the hirelings of Communism. Their leader, an abominable creature of many aliases, is best known as Holden Roberto. Just eighteen months before the massacre he went to the United States where he was made warmly welcome by the American Committee on Africa, the State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency and Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt.”
    Hideous miscreants in the above snippet refers to black terrorists who massacred both blacks and Whites, trained by communist USSR, China and North Korea and financed by the USA.

    • Replies: @Malla
  82. Malla says:

    This is freakin GOLD. A well known black terrorist so called ‘nationalist’ Julius Malema, admits that the bantu blacks are not native to South Africa but came from the North.

  83. @Michael Kenny

    Were Trump to take up the legitimate cause of protecting white farmers from persecution and potential genocide in So. Aftice via immigration to the US, the always-angry Left here would probably go ballistic.

    With the MSM cheering on, the Alliance of the Aggrieved would express ‘outrage’ (liberal euphemism for ‘hate’) at any Trump policy designed to give preference to whites over POC.

    Trump’s humanitarian concerns would be depicted as ‘racist’ since Trump would be importing (privileged) whites from So. Africa while he and his KKK-compatriots deport impoverished non-whites to Mexico, Somalia, Haiti and Guatemala.

    Hear their roar: “Protecting and favoring whites is white supremacism. Fight racism. Impeach Trump”!!!

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  84. cassandra says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for the reminder:

    Does anyone remember how manic all the ‘good thinkers’ were about boycotting South Africa a generation ago? They’re awfully quiet now.

    A pattern keeps emerging, that “conventional wisdom” has been misrepresenting practically every issue having political significance, not just a few exceptions. I’m at the point where I’m more interested in the history of these deceptions than in the deceptions themselves.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @Anonymous
  85. Malla says:
    @Malla

    From the horses Mouth. As I was saying all along. This whole black revolutionary movement and anti apartheid was to be about the spread of Communism.

    “In South Africa, nearly a year later, the problems were different, but Gene’s approach was basically the same. The Communist Party was emerging from a prolonged factional fight in which the all-white leadership and predominantly white membership had been charged with racism. In 1931 the Comintern had intervened from Moscow and the leadership, headed by Rebecca Bunting and her husband, were expelled. Their influence remained, however, and the issues were still being debated. The Buntings had rejected the primacy of the racial and national questions for South Africa. They opposed the Comintern’s goal for an Independent Native Black Republic with “guarantees for the white minority.” They had argued this would “favor a black race dictatorship that would turn the exploited whites into a subjected race.” The Buntings claimed that not a national liberation struggle of the Native Black majority was the strategic goal, but the establishment of socialism by the proletariat–black and white.”
    Peggy Dennis, The Autobiography of an American Communist: A Personal View of a Political Life 1925-1975

    https://nithgrim.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/the-primacy-of-the-racial-question-1931/

  86. Rurik says:
    @Mike P

    supremacists who want to “make America great again,” so that it may continue to serve as their enforcer? Is this the rationale behind the strange alliance between Trump and Israel?

    it’s a funny thing, eh Mike, to try to glimmer the dark motivations behind the curtain

    I wonder if a devil’s bargain isn’t being struck, with Trump actually mentioning the murder of South African white farmers, (something I never – ever figured a ZUS president would ever speak of. Ever.)

    So I’m also confused about what’s going on. The narrative of Zimbabwe and South Africa and Amy Biehl, et al, has always been that they’re white = racists, and so they deserve to be tortured or hacked to death or burned alive, whatever, because as another poster just mentioned;

    payback is like hell and everyone should get used to it!

    So for a major cable news program, and then the president of the ZUS, to actually show some concern for these people, is a monumental rupture in the matrix.

    When the whites of Zimbabwe were being murdered off and their lands and homes and farms stolen, there was a ubiquitous pall of silence during the whole process. Not a word was mentioned when rapes, tortures and massive theft was in the works, because the victims were white = evil racists and anti-Semites.

    This was obviously supposed to be the modus operandi for the genocide of the white South Africans as well, but now I don’t know what to think.

    Are the Zionists making a back-room deal with the old guard Anglos in the ZUS? Perhaps the ZUS WASPs have finally realized where the zio-trajectory will take them once the ZUS is full blown minority dominated from coast to coast, and their pampered precious white arses will be on the line for once.

    IDK, but this mentioning of the South African farmer’s plight, is astounding to me. They were supposed to be quietly and systematically genocided with the full blown crickets that were used for the Holodomor, or Zimbabwe, or all the rest of the genocides that go unnoticed by the (((western))) press, most egregiously in Palestine.

    We live in interesting times.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  87. Jake says:
    @neutral

    The WASP Empire USA, the Yank Empire, showed during ‘reconstruction’ that it is based upon destroying large numbers of ‘bad whites’ in order to uplift the blacks and browns.

  88. Bucky says:
    @kissinger

    There is a reason why the ancient Israelites would slaughter the tribes they defeated. So that the line would end and there would not be a reconquest coming from the sons of defeated men.

    Mercy often is the seed of eventual destruction. The Boer was too compassionate.

    • Replies: @Watching
  89. @RVBlake

    Ilana was born in South Africa, which her father, Rabbi Ben Isaacson, decided to leave pursuant to harassment by the South African security police on account of his anti-apartheid preaching and activism. (Ilana herself, on return, decades later, fought petty apartheid tirelessly.)

    For syndication rights to http://BarelyABlog.com or http://IlanaMercer.com, contact [email protected]. Read more @ http://www.ilanamercer.com/biographical/#ixzz5P7YygYVy

    Also, here’s what she and (((Paul Gottfried))) think about gentiles.

    http://takimag.com/article/encountering_gottfried/print#axzz5DhUS4uGx

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  90. Bucky says:
    @nsa

    Except global warming is in fact real. And so much of Africa will be made uninhabitable.

    The true “idiotocracy” will be African, and it will be global.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  91. Rurik says:
    @jilles dykstra

    people are entitled to self-determination ”

    Why, because Wilson around 1917 said so ?

    no

    rather because it is manifestly obvious to any human being with a functioning morality.

    Wars all over the place after Versailles implemented this self determination.

    but you’re forgetting that the ‘self-determination’ promised to the German people if they laid down their arms at the Armistice, never happened. It was all a ruse. And it turned out to be the ultimate betrayal and ultimate lie of all lies of the 20th century. (and that is saying a lot!)

    There never was any self determination in the British empire, nor for Indians in the USA.

    you’re wrong about that, but we’d have to get a little off topic to really flesh out those issues here.

    For one thing, the British empire did enslave a lot of people, but they also freed a lot of people from cultures of oppression.

    As for the Amerindians, they were slaughtering and genocideing each other when the white man arrived, and before Nuremberg, it was laudable to be a conqueror, rather than a conquered.

    The Apache and Comanche were proud of their fighting spirit, just as was the white man. As all men had been for thousands of years.

    It was only after the Nuremburg trials that mankind codified a system of self determination and fundamental rights that applied to all peoples. (except for the Palestinians of course, who would be slated for genocide). These laws and rights and International covenants lasted in the West right up until Clinton illegally bombed Serbia, and set in action (((the new world order))) of zio-domination and destruction of every nation potentially inconvenient to Israel’s expansion.

  92. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Ms Mercer, is at least consistent in her Sh!t

    it does seem like the irony is lost on her- that she reliably bemoans the genocide of the whites of South Africa, while simultaneously lauding the genocide of the Palestinians of Palestine.

    I suspect that what seems to be lost on her is the notion of principles.

    If you take a principled stand against genocide (Ms. Mercer ; ), then that would apply to all peoples equally.

    It’s like a law, if it doesn’t apply to everyone, equally, then it is mute. A joke and a farce.

    Perhaps someone might ask me ‘if you believe in self-determination for all people, then what about the Jews of Israel?’

    And I’d likely reply, ‘That if the 1949 borders are good enough for the Palestinians to accept, (with international control over Jerusalem), then if that’s cool with them, it’s cool with me. And if there were any Jewish supremacists that objected, then if it was up to me, I’d tell them to pound sand.

    • Agree: mark green
  93. I remember seeing a video of the Jewish Marxist politician Joe Slovo bouncing up and down on stage with the ANC thugs singing along to “Kill the Boer.” I remember thinking, what a self-hating moron. At the time I didn’t realize how many Jews (Ms. Mercer not included) don’t consider themselves white, and team up with other groups to punish the Gentiles.

  94. @jacques sheete

    So you’re saying all Jews have the same politics and the same opinions? Or that Ilana’s family, who opposed Apartheid, are incapable of changing their minds?

  95. @Bucky

    “Obviously the smart ones should have left a decade ago.”

    The smart fraction (about 25% of whites) left soon after the fall of apartheid.

    So as with Molly Tibbetts, it’s hard to drum up sympathy for anyone with the (financial, if not cognitive) means to read the writing on the wall and leave who did not avail themselves of the first opportunity to flee, even with just the shirt on their backs. If one find oneself an island in an ocean of blacks and basic survival instincts don’t kick in, maybe that utter lack of situational awareness really shouldn’t be passed on in the gene pool.

  96. @attilathehen

    If true, she wouldn’t be the first or last to have a sudden change of heart.

    That said, the challenge for the “i told you so” crowd will be to show benevolence towards slow learners. It’s obvious that the overwhelming majority of whites, when confronted with the Diversity they supposedly cherish, often take a hard right turn.

    Still, I would be interested to see your references for the claim wrt Mercer. I could not find any.

  97. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Meanwhile, the Mercers of the world pretend to care

    well, she wrote a book decrying the rape culture of the primitive blacks of Africa. So I wonder if there isn’t a hint of visceral revulsion she might have for their persistent and endemic orc-like machismo/rape culture view of women. I know I’ve seen enough gesticulating simian-like thugggishness to last me a thousand lifetimes. (But then, I did spend time around places like Detroit ; )

    In any case, her cognitive dissonance vis-a-vis the Palestinians is ludicrous and hypocritical in the uber-extreme.

    If it’s wrong for the blacks of Africa to slaughter the whites and steal their lands, then it’s also wrong for the Jewish supremacists of Israel to continue to oppress and murder and genocide the Arabs, in order to steal their lands.

    And if you’re principled, then there simply is no other way to see it. Period.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @jacques sheete
  98. APilgrim says:

    Planet of the Apes Last Sequel, ‘The Final Countdown Begins’.

    When the Ka effers starve in disease & squaller … I will laugh.

  99. APilgrim says:

    South Africa has not been an American Ally since the Korean War.

    TTFN

  100. Them Guys says:
    @HallParvey

    Yes, it would be swell if White’s were highly respected by African Savage blacks and Mexican Browns and all other non whiteys…However, reality has proven that instead of Respect of Whiteys due to all of the aprox.97+% of everything good ever invented during the past few thousand years, including inventing what folks call a Civilized Society/Nation. Of Which every bit of that entire 97+% is well enjoyed by most non whiteys globally, and especially in the usa, where whites even Pay for most of what non whites have and enjoy 24/7/365….From Cars and Airplanes to paid sec 8 free housings and utilities etc….Free EBT food cards…Free schooling. etc. etc….

    Indeed it would be very swell for White folks to finally hear a simple…”Thank You, White’s”, eh. But that is obviously never going to happen. Therefore Whites, especially in the USA, Must switch to Plan-B.

    What is Plan-B? I will tell you what Plan-B is….Plan-B, is for every usa white person to realize and admit, then put it into practice the fact that, Most every Non White, including Jewry aka the worlds Foremost Problem, will only maintain a proper due respect for White’s, when it is gotten Via, FEAR of White’s. It may not sound so nicey nice to some liberal minded do gooder whiteys, and it is a certainty non whites shall complain vociferously about Plan-B.

    But, like it or not, history as well as personal experiences of many, many White folks who have been forced to dwell with, and deal with, unruly and militant, violence prone, crazed Low IQ Savage Blacks and Browns primarily, but also to have had to deal with Jewry too. If such whites are honest will fast admit that, Respect out of abject Fear of Whites, is about the best whites can ever hope for or attain. And attain it they Must, if ever again anybody white hopes for true respect for themselves and their race of fellow whites.

    Only when a vast majority of non whites so fear the whites, that they literally cower and crumble in total fear of the potentials which can and WILL occur, should any non whites offend or harm even a single white person, regardless of that white persons age, size, gender, or social position, will American White’s regain what has been lost nationwide due to stupidly accepting and allowing for the past 50-60 years worth, of now well proven fraud and just plain idiotic wrong headed policies and agendas whites have suffered thru when the idiotic virtue signaling lib dem Marxist fools had full control of most every lever that runs a nation.

    I also highly recommend that such New policy and agenda of a Fear based respect of whites, will work as swell and good, when the same tactics get applied in full against said, lib dem clowns and virtue seeking hand wringer & hair pulling liberal kommie Marxists.

    After the past 50-60 years of such failed, wrong headed agendas and policies to so benefit every non white, at the expense of whites, is it not about high time Whitey in America try a new agenda?

    An agenda based upon what has been fully proven to work swell. And, a best part of it all, is that after a quick initial policy of instilling such fear of whites, and fearing what whites have proven to be capable of once pushed far too far. The entire process of continuing a real and total respect of all whites, will get easier as time progresses forewords. Similar to how a parent should only need make good valid use of the belt a couple times, before the kiddies fast learn to highly respect both, the belt and he or she who wields said belt. Or, spanking can be a substitute word for belt here, I reckon.

    But, bottom line, like it or not, Respect out of fear, is far better than zero respect and all what comes next, or after once those disrespecting violence prone, militant savage non whites gain the upper hand……

    Naysayers: Research Haiti before, and, after, White rule of Haiti a couple hundred years ago, when stupid virtuous hand wringer dem liberals equalized Blacks of Haiti, Via gave blacks the Vote too.

    Didn’t take very long for black votes to give rulership over to fellow blacks, then for black rulers to change policy and make it A-OK and legal for Haiti black “voters” to Mass Murder Whiteys and wreck, ruin, steal, smash, Burn down whatever unable to steal or wreck, and turn what Was the Jewel island of Haiti, into what Haiti is Today, and has remained as such ever since Blacks got to Vote. Very well done stupid dem lib hand wringer whiteys.

    Yet what could have possibly caused Haitis blacks prior to that era, to resepct and not mass murder white folks eh? Even with blacks being 90% and whites just 10% of entire population?

    FEAR!…ABJECT and Total FEAR of the White Man. Like it or not, it Is what it Is. And so far no other agenda ever works.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Clyde
    , @Okechukwu
  101. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    Good on Trump for speaking out, but we will have to wait and see if there will actually be any follow through. My sense is that Trump actually has his heart more or less in the right place, but he is prevented by his “allies” from acting as he wishes.

    • Agree: Rurik
  102. cassandra says:

    Mass movements are more often fomented than spontaneous, and it would be informative to follow the money behind the factions pushing the land-grab. Unfortunately, the South African Promotion of Access to Information Act of 2000 is having to be implemented in the courts, although it now appears that disclosure of private donors might take place.

    As helpful as it might be to have the identities of the interested parties, the first-level donors would only be the beginning: disentangling all the foundations and think tanks to get at the primary interests is likely to be an even bigger task.

  103. Mike P says:
    @Bucky

    Except global warming is in fact real. And so much of Africa will be made uninhabitable.

    Nonsense. Global warming is nothing but a US government/NASA-initiated psyop – it is based entirely on data distortion and fabrication, the silencing of critical scientists, and media-driven hysteria. After the nuclear war scare failed to frighten the world populace into voluntarily submitting to a One-World goobermint, global warming was invented as the next big scare. Unfortunately for the globalists, the new scare is failing also. Maybe aliens are next?

    • Replies: @Bucky
  104. APilgrim says:
    @Rurik

    Not so much.

    But thanx for playing.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  105. peterAUS says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Property rights only exist to the degree that they can be backed by force…

    with

    Once you lose political power you are at the mercy of the majority.

    Sums it up nicely.
    Actually, not even “majority” but whichever group has control of state power.

    The (lower 90 % of society) whites there have a couple of options:
    LEAVE.

    Failing that, try some territorial autonomy. From there try to work on federation.Then confederation.From there try to work on secession. Probably impossible but, well, better to go down as a man than as a cattle for slaughter.

    And, yet……..have had plenty of interraction with whites there.
    There are no “whites” there, actually. There are Boers and Anglos. Big difference. Count Anglos out of this conversation.
    As for Boers they are……………peculiar……………….characters.
    Just saying.

  106. Them Guys says:
    @Watching

    Learn real history by watching a few older, back & white filmed. Tarzan Movies of 1930′s and 1940′s eras. Pay close atten. to actual as filmed live, Zulu’s and various other savage african black tribes seen in Tarzan Movies. While the man, Tarzan is fake, those savages are very Real and lived and acted precisely as filmed live in action throughout the entire movie. Savage, naked, Cannibals and mass murderous as can be.

    Hollywood directors never needed to hire fake-extras to “Act” as if real African savages. No, for such Tarzan movies Hollywood had it very easy to locate and include in those movies. As many as a couple Thousand African tribal savages…aka totally, uncivilized, sub-humans that more resemble wild Baboons and Apes, than they resemble any white civilized humans.

    Once done with a few vintage Tarzan films, take a gander at before and after photos online of….Detroit City Pre-1960′s and after 1970 eras….Note the uncanny similarities of Tarzans 1940 African Jungle Bunny spear chucker savage tribes, and modern day Detroit sub human savage African blacks.

    Also Note that, prior to White Dutchmen in South African lands, no such African savage blacks even knew that part of Africa even existed!…A Major reason for Whitey to settle into S.African lands, was that there was nobody else there already!

    Who else but very Low IQ, Sub-Human savages would keep building Mud and shit huts 6+ Miles away from their Only source of Water, which is no more than a small smelly shallow Pond of dirt, germs, disease, scum, various tiny animals/bugs,etc. Filled Pond of water African negros use for drinking and bathing waters. When anybody other than such Low IQ sub humans would at least Move those mud & shit huts Closer to the Pond, eh? Or if even a tiny fragment smarter, like a White Man is, would perhaps…Dig a fuckin Well for fresh ground water!

    Also ironic, yet well proven by many centuries now, is the Fact that, Regardless of Where on this entire planet such African savages migrate to or end up in, they fully destroy and royally fuck up, every possible thing they can get their grubby hands on or around. No peoples, No place, No nation, is safe whenever African Savages are allowed into such lands or places in any sizeable numbers…..Period. S. Africa, Haiti, Detroit, Chicago, LA. Kalif. and on and on and on.

    Anywhere that becomes infested by even a margin of 10% African savages, soon becomes more like a Tarzan Movie Jungle setting, than any other possibility.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Watching
  107. Bucky says:
    @Mike P

    I wish global warming were a hoax. But the fundamental factor is that combustion produces CO2 and all of our industries rely on combustion in some form or another.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  108. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Check this out

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/revilo-p-oliver-western-christianity/

    Revilo P. Oliver: Western Christianity

    “When our Germanic ancestors invaded and occupied the decadent Roman Empire, it was deeply infected with Christianity, a Jewish cult that had been foisted onto the mongrelized inhabitants of the great empire that had been created by Aryans. Thus our ancestors contracted the alien religion while they inherited, as best they could, the ruins of the civilization that had been created by their race.

    Christianity has always been deleterious to our race, and if the Roman Empire had to succumb to an imported religion, one could wish in retrospect that the victor in the competition for political power had been the Mithraic cult, which was at least manly and which the Christians so closely emulated in many matters, though not in its virtues.”

    You gotta read this book

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/RPO_NewChrist/toc_ol.htm

    The Origins of Christianity by Revilo Oliver

    The book explains the differences in the worldviews of Aryans and Jews and the corrosive effects that Jewish ideas have had on Aryan society. According to him, far from being a monotheistic faith it is a religion with several different gods.

    He compares concepts of Christianity and compares it to Persia’s Zoroastrianism and the Persian god Mithras. According to him Christianity partially is a daughter religion of Zoroastrianism and the origins of Christianity are not found in the Semitic Levant but Aryan Iran.

    Besides that on the OTHER HAND, there are theories that Whites are the true Israelites and the chosen people. Jews as a people start from Judah, son of Jakob. Judah never got the blessing of GOD and that blessing was given to Joseph, Judah sold Joseph to slavery.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  109. RVBlake says:
    @mark green

    Before Trump begins anything so radical as defending Boers, he must first check with Bibi.

  110. Mike P says:
    @Bucky

    I’m aware that combustion produces CO2, that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are rising, and I understand the mechanism by which CO2 is supposed to retain additional heat in the atmosphere. However, what you are not usually told is that the warming caused by CO2 directly is pretty minor, and that all the horror scenarios assume that this minor CO2-induced warming is amplified by increasing the water vapour content of the atmosphere (water vapour, not CO2 being the most import greenhouse gas).

    Notwithstanding the impression of “consensus” among the “overwhelming majority” of “climate scientists”, people hold widely different views on the extent (if any) to which such amplification will happen. The best thing one can do is to simply look at the evidence – how much warming has actually happened? Check out for example Tony Heller’s blog to see what is really going on.

    CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and yet the evidence shows that there is no dangerous global warming going on; all recent ups and downs are historically unremarkable. It is all BS – tell your kids the good news.

  111. Malla says:
    @Them Guys

    Your problem has never been blacks but Whites suffering from the disease of Telescopic Philanthropy. Universal Morality has been your biggest bane.

    The little boy is saying: “Please ‘M, aint we black enough to be cared for?”

    “Charles Darwin’s uncle a factory owner Josiah Wedgewood owned a business that worked white children of 5 years of age in a chemical factory permeated with lead oxide a deadly poison. Wedgewood acknowledged that the lead made the children very subject to disease but worked them anyway.
    Ruth Holland commenting on the participation of New England factory owners in the cause of abolitionism and rights for negroe’s in the south observed,it’s a little difficult to believe that northern mill owners who where mercilessly abusing white children for profit,felt such pure moral indignation at the negro slavery. from a previous slave “when I was a boy” recalled Walter McIntosh, who had been a slave in Sumter, South Carolina”we used to sing, Rather be a nigger than a poor white man”Tarquin 1488 pel,

    My take is that of all the peoples in the world, it is White people who should have had the policy of least contact with other races, especially darker races. Only contact as needed, such as trading. But White people have followed an opposite policy. The North East Asians at the period of early colonialism had a much wiser policy. Japan, Korea (Hermit Kingdom) & China in general had a policy of least interaction with the outside world. Maybe they were onto something.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @S
  112. cassandra says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Expelling those who keep the economy going of course is possible, but it is quite expensive.

    Not that expensive, when corporate and elite profits are primary, and popular welfare is incidental.

    My best guess is that after the country collapses, and when attention wanes just enough for media to be able to totally ignore the situation, corporations (e.g., Monsanto or Cargill) will buy up formerly prosperous farm land for a song. Unlike individual owners, who are legally responsible when they exercise “excessive” self defense, corporations can hire (or outsource) mercenaries to impose military security, behind a legal shield of corporate anonymity. (Corporations don’t kill people, only people kill people.)

    Hunter Biden’s curious appointment to the board of Burisma Holdings in Ukraine is an actual example. This gave western elites control of an industrial operation in a country shattered by imperial machinations. Recall Victoria Nuland’s 13 Dec. 2013 speech touting $5B spent on subverting Ukraine:

    (Don’t miss the Chevron logo prominently displayed in the background)

  113. Okechukwu says:

    White supremacists are a stupid bunch. Their slogans and catch phrases are never able to withstand even minor scrutiny. In that sense I was gratified by Trump’s tweet. Finally, this SA “white genocide” myth was thoroughly and meticulously examined by a broad range of sources and found to be absolutely false.

    It makes you wonder why the promoters of these lies couldn’t conceive that they would be picked apart in the real world. Those pleading assiduously for mainstream recognition of their made-up tales — tales motivated strictly by a desire to maintain white domination over South Africa, ought to have known that once those ideas migrated out of Internet echo chambers that they would be savaged.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Watching
  114. c matt says:
    @Rurik

    The hatred that Jewish supremacists have for white folks is so beyond my understanding that it defies comprehension.

    Simple – they know whites are their betters, and therefore the only thing standing between them and world domination.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  115. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the Jews…who wrote the Jew Testament. And this isn’t Scofield’s work:

    • “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from THE JEWS.” John 4:22
    • “THE JEW FIRST.” Romans 1:16
    • “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to THE JEWS to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27

    Jews murdered Jesus? You duplicitously leave out the simple fact that the Jews loved Jesus for most of his career teaching in their synagogues.

    • “He taught regularly in their synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15

    But if they did kill Jesus later after a spat, it’s not anymore concern of mine that Communists Jews assassinating Trotsky. Myself, I don’t take sides in Jew-on-Jew violence. Why are you taking sides in Jewish infighting?

    Besides, who wants identify as a baby-c0ck-sucker, even if only symbolically? Hmm?

    • “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Philippians 3:3

    Scofield didn’t write that either. The New Testament is fully Jewdeo, all on its own. You need to start being honest about that fact, and stop making lame-ass excuses for it.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  116. Okechukwu says:

    He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner. “As the old legal adage goes, ‘Possession is nine-tenths of the law,’ as it is the best evidence in our uncertain world of legitimate title.

    Africans were under no obligation to respect European land ownership conventions. Your “old adage” wasn’t shared by the rest of the world. Besides, fat homosexual Cecil Rhodes made Africans sign over lands at the point of gun. So even he recognized the true owners of the land.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Anon
  117. lavoisier says: • Website
    @cassandra

    I’m at the point where I’m more interested in the history of these deceptions than in the deceptions themselves.

    The history of these deceptions has one root: “We hold these truths to be self evident: All men are created equal.”

  118. Okechukwu says:
    @Them Guys

    Learn real history by watching a few older, back & white filmed.

    If this doesn’t demonstrate how dumb white supremacists are nothing ever will.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  119. Truth says:
    @anonymous

    The Bible makes it very clear that Christians do not make any representation of anything heavenly, therefore anyone worshiping any photo of Christ is not really a Christian.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  120. peterAUS says:
    @cassandra

    My best guess is that after the country collapses, and when attention wanes just enough for media to be able to totally ignore the situation, corporations (e.g., Monsanto or Cargill) will buy up formerly prosperous farm land for a song. Unlike individual owners, who are legally responsible when they exercise “excessive” self defense, corporations can hire (or outsource) mercenaries to impose military security, behind a legal shield of corporate anonymity. (Corporations don’t kill people, only people kill people.)

    Yup.
    And, should mercenaries prove inadequate a proper military will supplement/take over..
    For the good of humanity, naturally. To provide food for hungry kids. Or something like that.

  121. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Indeed! Another good website showing how Christian “Love” is destroying the White race:

    The West’s Darkest Hour
    Love is murdering the white race

    http://chechar.wordpress.com/

  122. Anonymous[544] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Except the Bantus who dominate South Africa in the present and are the ones benefitting from redistribution aren’t the the original natives that loaned the land to Dutch colonists.

  123. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Nobody but you mentioned “worshiping” a photo of Jesus, Mr. un-Truth. Nice try at setting up a strawman and then attempting the shopworn “No True Christian” fallacy.

    But what European Christians do worship is a false portrayal of a foreign middle eastern Jewish Rabbi. White Christians imagine Jesus as themselves, fair-haired, blue-eyed, surfer-dude. Jesus wasn’t that, thus, Christians worship a lie.

    Worse, Jesus despised Gentile White Roman Goyim, and said so, explicitly in the “Gospels.” White Christians worship a Jewish Rabbi who hated them.

  124. Rurik says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    take care of Boers by supporting and resettling them. The experiment has failed. I do not want to go into the possibility of the war there.

    but no one seems willing to take these people

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/22-05-2018/why-new-zealand-cant-accept-south-african-farmers-in-the-refugee-quota/

    http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2017/09/20/white-south-africans-denied-refugee-status-in-canada/

    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sa-farmers-refugee-visa-no-special-treatment/

    other than Putin

    https://www.libertydefenders.org/russia-accepts-15000-white-refugees-form-south-africa-putin-hero/

    which underscores the charge that our (((media))) has been screeching for years now, that ‘Putin is Hitler’. What other reason is there for him accepting all those racists and anti-Semites?

    as for war, I’d certainly be curious how that would unfold.

    If the white South Africans, with a few sympathizers in the military, decided to fight it out, rather than just put their fate in the hands of the blacks…

    on whose side would NATO fight?

    And once NATO committed to taking on the ‘terrorists’ who’re waging a guerrilla war against the ‘legitimate and democratically elected government of South Africa’, how will that play out when white American boys are told to shoot and drone and bomb the white South Africans fighting for their lives against the racist black Marxists?

    Already there was grumbling when American GIs were told to fight alongside ISIS head slicers in Syria. How well will they follow order when told to train the blacks to kill the whites?

    It could get tricky.

  125. Okechukwu says:
    @Anonymous

    Except the Bantus who dominate South Africa in the present and are the ones benefitting from redistribution aren’t the the original natives that loaned the land to Dutch colonists.

    LOL. More evidence of white supremacist stupidity.

    The Boers erected monuments and established national holidays to honor Voorstrekers and to celebrate the conquest of black tribes. If the land was empty, who were these Boers killing and dispossessing of land? Ghosts?

    Further reading:

    The Empty Land Myth

    The Myth of the empty land had become a central tenet of both British and Afrikaner identity in nineteenth century South Africa and had been used as a justification for the capture and settlement of Bantu land. The Apartheid Government had transformed the myth to serve its own ends. They used it to support the Homelands Act and to confine the Bantu people to particularly localities, arguing that the rest of the country had been ‘empty’ and therefore could not form part of their Homelands. Since the 1980s however, evidence has shown that the myth of the empty land simply cannot be sustained. Rather than being historical fact, it is a convenient fiction that has served as a political tool.

    http://www.sahistory.org.za/article/empty-land-myth

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @bj
    , @Wizard of Oz
  126. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    For one, it’s not jewish infighting…your vile hatred of Christianity is noted. It is apparent that you have not done the research (as I have). Jesus Christ was of the Essene sect, which espoused many Christian-like principles. The Essenes were HATED by the Pharisees, who pretty much controlled the bulk of Judaism.
    It was the ordinary non-pharasaic jews who were receptive to Christ’s message of hope. I’ll bet you are a part of the IDF Unit 8200, hasbara.
    The jewish hatred of Jesus Christ knows no bounds, especially when the only thing you’ve read is the Talmud.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  127. @Fidelios Automata

    So you’re saying all Jews have the same politics and the same opinions? Or that Ilana’s family, who opposed Apartheid, are incapable of changing their minds?

    Oh, for the luv of the Great Whatever.

    Where did I mention Jews, and why are you trying to put stupid words into my mouth?

    Go away.

  128. Rurik says:
    @c matt

    Simple – they know whites are their betters, and therefore the only thing standing between them and world domination.

    but I’ve never known what this feeling of murderous envy is like.

    Sure, I’ve been jealous of a rock star’s private jets and groupies, and all that, more when I was younger, but there was never even a hint of bitterness or resentment. Just a feeling that ‘Mick Jagger sure has had quite a life. ‘Must have been pretty cool’. It sure never felt like I wanted to harm him.

    I’ve never been in power, other than running a small business. But I never hated the people who were, unless they abused that power.

    So why a people would be sooo consumed with murderous hatred, even as they occupy the most exalted positions in society, and are wildly over-represented in every aspect of wealth, power and influence, yet their hatred for the powerless white working class seems to fester and grow with every perk and privilege they enjoy, as the growing wage gap explodes, that has them ever wealthier and powerful compared specifically to the middle and working class people they despise with demonic fervor, and who languish economically, especially compared to their tormentors.

    I have a theory.

    I suspect that as they become more and more wealthy relative to their hosts, and as their nepotism and financial chicanery pays off, and they’re even more exalted in society than their parents ever dreamed, what happens is that it codifies in their mind their tribal narrative, that they and they alone are the ‘chosen’ ones, (the only people with actual souls) who their god put here to be served by the beast-like goyim.

    And as this narrative manifests in their collective megalomania, it creates an expectation from them that the goyim must, by god’s plan, lick their feet, and treat them like they were gods on this earth.

    But the obstinate and anti-Semitic goyim refuse!

    and go about their business without even genuflecting and worshiping their god-like betters, the way the Jewish supremacist god intended.

    And that is why they hate so much. Because their megalomaniacal vanity is bruised by these ungrateful beasts who god put here to serve the chosen!

    How dare they talk to me like I was an equal!!!

    How dare they refuse to bow and scrape!!

    Are we not exalted above them all, just as the torah demands?!

    Then how dare they treat us as if they were our equals!!!

    This is my pet theory, and it’s the only thing that makes any sense to me, to explain their pathological;, psychopathic and all-consuming hatred.

  129. @Rurik

    …she wrote a book decrying the rape culture of the primitive blacks of Africa. So I wonder if there isn’t a hint of visceral revulsion …

    Well, that certainly is worthy of revulsion, but she and her ilk oughta quit pointing fingers and clean their own arses first. The Zio-Commies get all exercised by things like that, often exaggerating, if not fabricating them, but give free passes to the most hideous behavior of their own kind for some unfathomable (wink) reason.

    I suspect that more than half the ills they rail against are pure fiction and the other half things they themselves have cleverly promoted to smear the “other.”

    She’s a transparent stool-stirrer for sure.

  130. @APilgrim

    Sorry, but Rurik gets it. You? Not so much.

    But thanx for flatulating.

  131. @Okechukwu

    He must have been joking. Even Zio-Commie Supremacists couldn’t hold or express such goofy views, I think.

    Tarzan movies? ROFL.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  132. Dr. Philip du Toit, a farmer (with a doctorate in labor law) and author of “The Great South African Land Scandal,” speaks of recurrent attacks on farm animals that “hark back to the Mau Mau terror campaign which drove whites off Kenyan farms.”

    Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. I, however, possess a time machine and can show you what lies in South Africa’s future:

  133. Rurik says:
    @Okechukwu

    Hey Okechukwu,

    With all due respect, what do you suppose will happen to South Africa’s economy and standard of living once the white people have been given their overdue comeuppance and put in their place, eh?

    It sure happened in Haiti, when the blacks gave the oppressive (they actually were back then) whites the ‘treatment’ – but today Haiti is a shithole.

    Ditto Zimbabwe.

    is South Africa going to be ‘third time’s a charm’, and the new Wakanda?

    Once the whites are driven out?

    Or, will it become a festering and corrupt shithole too?

    And if you could look into a crystal ball, and see that suffering and misery would result, would you still advocate for white comeuppance?

    (that was a rhetorical question ; )

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  134. @cassandra

    My best guess is that after the country collapses, and when attention wanes just enough for media to be able to totally ignore the situation, corporations (e.g., Monsanto or Cargill) will buy up formerly prosperous farm land for a song.

    You nailed it.

    Scare the (Bleep) outta the whites so they leave, or worse, or get power by playing the role of the “savior,” to the masses, then waltz in and scoop up the goodies. Haven’t we seen this before? ;)

  135. @Okechukwu

    White supremacists are a stupid bunch. Their slogans and catch phrases are never able to withstand even minor scrutiny.

    The principle applies to Commie and Zio supremacists as well.

    Their arguments are so bogus that the best they can do is smear and demonize others; they never really argue rationally.

  136. @Okechukwu

    Luv it.

    Funny how our rulers, supremacists who break every “law” at will, suddenly invoke the “law” to bolster their claims. Nothing like having one’s cake while eating it too.

  137. @Anonymous

    Strange conversation as of self determination never existed until the western industrialist society announced it. Of course people had the right of self determination,. What the comment really states is that no one has the right to interfere with another’s self determination. But as we know, such determinations have been made by the right hand of power brokers.

    Bottom Line, any contention about who owns the land based on the premise noted in Mrs Mercer’s article must by default go to the original land holders — by the standard set — what is taking place in South Africa concerning land confiscation is simply the owners reclaiming the same — no doubt for unpaid past due payments.

    Note: This is the standard set by Mrs Mercer.

  138. Wealth, thanks to graft, always flows upward. When too much flows upward, the government must (I said “must.” Or, more accurately, “will,” eventually.) redistribute it downwards. Redistribution of wealth is the only real reason to have a government at all. Of course, most of you think the only reason for government is for killing people. That would be wrong.

    %80 black = own %5 of the land

    With such statistics (and I know how you all love the statistics), redistribution is inevitable. So grow up.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Malla
  139. On the other hand, it is true, and not racist, to observe that there is a great difference between Hottentot and Bantu.

  140. @Anonymous

    I am not sure that matters in this instance. Suppose I build a hotleberry. I own the patent and all titles. You come across my hotleberry and figure out that I am utterly missing the value of my hotleberry. You being far more industrious, smarter, , what have you take my Hotleberry and make a fortune.

    As the title holder and copywring holder — the fact that you pay me royalties on my owned property does not make any less mine. If the whites wanted to maintain their wealth from their supposed more intelligent use — they should have made sure to have paid their royalties tp what society or societies from whence they used or rented said property.

    Note: Again my comments do not in any way condone murder and based on the actual processes in South Africa and government policy and the nation’s ethos — neither do south africans — including the black citizens.

    But my benefit from your use os my property does not make it yours. This is the peculiar analysis made by those in creative destruction and copyright theft. The Japanese seem fond of said arguments based on their supposed superiority — especially when it comes to blacks.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  141. @bike-anarkist

    The Bantu majority is not native to South Africa. As an analogy imagine if a couple hundred years ago the Japanese and Italians descended on Norway simultaneously, killing off most of the native inhabitants. Now the downtrodden Italian majority demands “their” Norwegian land back from a wealthy Japanese minority. South Africa is obviously more nuanced than that (apartheid, etc.), but you get the basic idea.

    Israel did steal most of the land (particularly the Ashkenazi from Europe), and the Palestinians did get a raw deal (made much worse by their own stupidity). That said, I’m currently sitting on land (California) stolen from Mexico. Do we give it back? How do you factor in the minimal presence Mexico had in California prior to the war and the fact that Whites built all of the current infrastructure? What about all of the non-White Middle Eastern Jews that fled to Israel and can’t return their native countries?

    Who has rightful claim to their land? Do we go back 50 years? 100? 1,000?

    Whites in SA need to be realistic. I would like to see every last White cut their losses and leave. Let the world watch SA go from being the richest, large SSA country to becoming just another SSA apocalyptic hell hole. Blacks don’t want Whites around? Fine, suit yourself.

    There’s a strong positive correlation between the length and extent African countries were colonized and their current economic status. That’s the great irony. We actually improved their living conditions, but they’re too stupid and tribal to see it. There’s no reason for any significant White presence in Africa. No foreign aid, no nothing. Just leave and let them have their Wakanda. It’s better to spend our energy on keeping Africans out of our countries.

    • Replies: @bj
    , @jacques sheete
  142. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    What once was the richest country in the world now does not have electricity twice a week.

    Do these leaders in South Africa know how to think? They are destroying their own country.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  143. bj says:
    @Okechukwu

    How about black supremacist stupidity!

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  144. bj says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    The Bantu speaking Xhosa tribes were in South Africa when the Dutch arrived in 1652. They were not at Cape Town, but up the east coast of South Africa, beyond the Fish River.

    https://www.amazon.com/AmaBhulu-Birth-Death-Second-America/dp/0992159016/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

  145. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @cassandra

    Interesting thinking.

  146. bj says:

    The Cape Party advocates secession from South Africa. This is a solution to the ethnic cleansing of the Boers by South African black supremacists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Party

    Secession Push Grows as South African Regime Plots Land Thefts….

  147. bj says:

    Tucker Carlson brings the ethnic cleansing of the Boers of South Africa to the attention of the United States. USA liberals freak out when their denial of black racism in South Africa is documented and recorded. President Donald Trump orders Pompeo to investigate the murder of farmers and the racist policies of South Africa’s black majority.

  148. bj says:

    There is no future for whites in South Africa!

    Shoot the Boer….is becoming state policy of the Rainbow Nation.

    War and secession of the Cape Provinces is coming.

  149. bj says:

    They Want You Dead White Man…..

  150. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You may be old and tired but that is no excuse for sputtering “nonsense” and then uttering words with no sense or meaning because they fail to indicate in any way how you think you are contradicting what was said. You sound confused.

  151. @obwandiyag

    When too much flows upward, the government must (I said “must.” Or, more accurately, “will,” eventually.) redistribute it downwards.

    Arrrggghhh!

    I got news for ya. Government, even when controlled by the “Chosen” race or whatever they are, is not the Messiah, nor will it ever be. It is a tool of the takers and destroyers, always.Furthermore, it is a huge and powerful wealth distribution mechanism and it always functions to distribute the wealth and power upward, at the expense of the rest of us.

    A very simple concept to grasp.:

    …the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large…

    - Murray N. Rothbard, The State versus Liberty

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/a-band-of-thieves-writ-large/

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/molinari-the-society-of-tomorrow

    Be it or be it not true that Man is shapen in iniquity and conceived in sin, it is unquestionably true that Government is begotten of aggression and by aggression.

    -Herbert Spencer, The Man versus the State, with Six Essays on Government, Society and Freedom, ed. Eric Mack, introduction by Albert Jay Nock (Indianapolis: LibertyClassics, 1981). 8/24/2018. http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/330#Spencer_0020_146

  152. @Anonymous Jew

    Oh, it’s all so simple.

    Just leave and let them have their Wakanda.

    As long as the political power is left in the hands of the usual suspects. You know the type, ruthless gangsters with origins in Eastern Europe aka Ashkenazis. The One Worlders who own the Land of de Fwee.

    • Replies: @Malla
  153. @Anonymous

    Do these leaders in South Africa know how to think? They are destroying their own country.

    Hey our “leaders” have been doing the same thing besides destroying other countries as well, for decades. But hey, they’re just doing their jobs and bending over and dropping their shorts on command.

    Take time to peek behind the curtain. But only if you have a strong stomach.

    BTW: Yes I am a kunspirasee theerist! :)

  154. @Bucky

    Obviously the smart ones should have left a decade ago.

    The Mau Mau Rebellion was in the mid-1960’s. Anybody with ANY sense would have seen the writing on the wall then.

    Imagine your family lived in Detriot in the 1960’s and saw the neighborhood next door devolve to cannibal chaos. Do you wait for the first cannibal to move into your neighborhood or put your ‘for sale’ sign up immediately?

    These South Africans are like the Detriot imbeciles who waited until every neighborhood around them was cannibalized, 90% of the homes in their own neighborhood were cannibalized, three of their four children had been eaten, and then and only then did they get wise to their plight?

    Our gene pool has too many idiots already. Let these mongoloid retards serve as example to the unawakened fools in America, Europe, and Australia, as well as the Orientals who haven’t yet experienced the nature of the African.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  155. @Rurik

    South Africa: ‘shoot to kill the Boer’ chanting by the EFF Leader

    Julius Malema is a Member of Parliament

    And here is Jacob Zuma singing the same general song:

    Interesting largely because it looks like Zuma’s sign-language interpreter is the same one who became so famous for his brilliant translation of Obama’s really-really-really wonderful tribute to the dead terrorist Mandela.

    Given the magnificent work he had previously done for the great Zuma himself, its no wonder he got the Obama job.

  156. this is comedy central is it?
    I have not had this much fun on a news site ever..even crocodile tears for RSA becoming a net importer of food supposedly for the first time. really!

    I thought the white farmers grew wine on the African land they stole?
    and di and do African have the means to buy food grown in RSA or imported..given that their land was taken away from them , their minerals taken also and mined for white profit. and the work they were given was the worst labor available at the worst wages?

    what happened to africans when their land was stolen and they had nowhere to live, no shelter and means to survive! what happened to local economies when the land was taken and redirected to white purposes like growing wine for export?

    that must have ment total disruption of African life. and this we know because what happened is a history we know. white invaders took the land and established a social system of apartheid,..total racism against Africans in their own country.

    al the posters here with their shallow memories forget the RSA of Apartheid eh and the centuries of terror visited on African people by the forebears of these very white people posters here are so solicitous of..the children of killers and mass murderers. and no African has sought to exact vengeance on white people in RSA for their centuries of utter criminality against Black people. taking back their land is the least they could do

    for me alone the land would have been taken back immediately..years ago. and there would have been no truth and reconciliation committee or whatever the hell they called that unnecessary and pointless appeasement. I would have done the opposite..a committee to prosecute white criminals, to execute the killers and jail the rest. you would have gotten due process form me..I can promise that..DUE process. the guiltless would go free but not the guilty

    and I would have arrested advocates for truth and reconciliation like Desmond Tutu and prosecute him for treason. Nelson Mandella would have been well advised to stay away from suc treason less he found himself also under prosecution for treason. Black RSA was crazy to have allowed guilty white people of horrendous crime against Black people to walk free

    the New President is wasting time as well. he does not actually want to do what he must..take back the land and give it to african people so he farts around wasting precious time. let there be dislocation, import of food if necessary but take the land back. there is bound to be turmoil at the point of any large social change

    and this from that Mercer woman:
    “He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner. “As the old legal adage goes, ‘Possession is nine-tenths of the law,’ as it is the best evidence in our uncertain world of legitimate title. The burden of proof rests squarely with the person attempting to alter and abolish present property titles.”

    hahahahaha! pardon me. I had to wipe the tears from eyes. heavy, I am running out of tissue. white people are sweet. and some white women man! they take the cake. they are far worse than white male invaders.

    go tell that to the original people of every continent in the world Illana..that possession is 9 over 10. you mean 9 over ten after you have stolen the land and possess it. then the ‘law’ of 9 over ten kicks in.

    you are the definition of hypocrisy Illana Mercer, a hypocrite justifying theft

    If Ramaphosa tarries, does not take back the land post haste and give it back to the people, then the people should go after him..do to him what they did not do to Tu Tu and Mandella..citizen arrest them, and try them in the streets forthwith..and by popular jury, guilty verdict, and dispatch them on the spot. that should be Cyril’s fate if he betrays the people. there is no more time to waste

  157. @DanFromCT

    pretty soon we’ll learn that referring to ‘the US’ is actually a thinly veiled form of anti-semitism, you see, for the the same reason that referring to Wall Street, Hollywood, TV, the MSM, banking, pornography, and so forth supposedly is.

    Why do you think Trump is finally noticing? Starts with a J.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/251010

    Those rascal Africans have gone and done it now. Using the J-word…

  158. FB says:

    ‘…the country no longer enjoys the impressive Western system of Roman-Dutch law it once enjoyed…’

    Yeah…I remember that was real ‘impressive’ when the ‘law’ scooped up Steven Biko at a road block and took him to a police station where he was held naked in shackles…and eventually beaten and tortured to death…

    Also remember that millions of South Africans who where were forcefully resettled immensely ‘enjoyed’ this ‘Western system of Roman-Dutch law’…

    Why don’t we hear these arguments about land title when it comes to the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who hold legitimate title to lands and homes that were seized in the Nabka 70 years ago…?

    I guess ‘Roman-Dutch law’ doesn’t apply to Israel…

    What a disgusting lizard… Ilana Mercer is what makes you ashamed to be a human…

  159. @Stephen Paul Foster

    Well, I saw her face; now I’m a believer.

    You can’t just say that without posting a link!

  160. bj says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Why not just eat the traitors for dinner?

    After a proper trial of course!

  161. @RVBlake

    You’re welcome. However, just because Mercer is a typical Jew, big picture, I don’t blame the Jews for our problems. I place the blame for the problems in the West squarely on the Caucasian RCC and Zioevangizer male. The Caucasian RCC male accepts black/Asian priests-popes. The Zioevangizer male believes modern day Jews are the chosen. They believe in “universal brotherhood” and “universal church,” the two most evil, oxymoronic beliefs that are destroying the West. I am a cradle RCCer who left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. Also, the communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians.

    Many commentators fall into three groups: insane anti-Semites, Western males involved with Asian women, and RCCers who accept black/Asian priests-popes. I will give you two examples of the Caucasian RCC males who are destroying the West.

    I used to comment at Taki’s website. Mr. Taki is an insane anti-Semite. This realization finally hit me when I read a column he recently wrote. He’s been criticized for his anti-Semitism, but I never really noticed it. However, in a recent column he wrote he complained about the Jews taking over Palestine and leaving the Palestinians without a country. I finally realized he is the problem.

    First, insane anti-Semites refuse to answer to the most important question: where should we put the Jews? This was answered by Israel. There were not many people in Palestine when the Jews conquered it. Mark Twain and others wrote about this. I’ve been to Israel – I went for Christmas and had a very nice time. The Jews have built up a prosperous country. Granted they get our foreign aid which I want cut-off, but without our aid they would be fine. I do want firm boundaries to be set for Israel and Western Jews will have to go to Israel. The Muslim Palestinians are low IQ quadroons and octoroons. They can easily resettle in any Muslim country. I want a separate country for Middle East Christians. Mr. Taki cannot deal with this. He has never written a column about what he would do with the Jews. Also, in his columns he would write about his past amorous escapades and his attempted present day ones. He is over 80 and just wishing. But this “p***y” chasing made me realize something. He is worth millions and can easily get involved in politics to help people. He should have done this with his own country Greece. Greece is a mess. Yet, he worries about low IQ groid Palestinians. WOW!!! I finally realized he is the biggest p***y of all, a complete coward. He can scribble but he will not do anything concrete to help the West.

    My next example is E. Michael Jones. This Caucasian RCC male is so anti-Semitic he is becoming deranged. He has youtubes and his consistent theme is blaming every problem of the RCC and world on the Jews. Anytime someone blames the Jews, look behind the Jews and you will find a Caucasian cuck RCC or Zioevangizer male behind them and the real reason for our problems. Right now he’s babbling about the homosexual crisis that has destroyed the RCC is because of the Jews. The RCC has a new trinity – homos, groids, gloids. Jones will not deal with the blacks/Asians who are the ones that have destroyed the RCC. Diversity destroyed the RCC. Modern day Jews are a miscegenated melange and not Western. Blacks/Asians are not Western and must either be deported or segregated in the West. Jones would never deal with something like this.

    Then there is the IQ question and its relation to race. The cucks run away from this.

    I have not seen your name so if you are new to Unz, so keep your eyes on the three types of stooges I named above. They are the cause of the problems in the West. The Jews are a mere pickled red herring in our arguments and discussions.

  162. I went to middle school with a Rhodesian. Good guy. His dad was an engineer.
    Every white, indian and educated black with a brain will leave SA. It’s been happening for decades. Should be interesting to see the yellow man exploit SA resources. My bet is
    they will skin the blacks alive; not at first, initially they will play fair until they have created a dependency. After that they’ll turn the screws.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Peasant
  163. @EliteCommInc.

    Where do you factor into your analogy the fact that Patents expire (As do rights to claim property that belonged to you before you were disposessed or abandoned it)?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  164. @Okechukwu

    What about the Cape Province? When did Bantu arrive there?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  165. bj says:

    RW01 – South Africa: Can VASTLY outnumbered Whites survive (or win?) a Race War?

    “Politics is for liars, war is for honest men!”

  166. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    Don’t over egg the pudding. The whole of the civilised world has always regarded it as common sense that those in long possession shouldn’t be evicted by the private use of force and that the official use of force should be on behalf of a proven good title.

  167. Hey everyone, look at (((us))), we fought apartheid and now that the wheels have fallen off and all the whites’ fears turned out to be totally justified, (((we’re))) living comfortably in America.

    Be sure to say shalom to Barbara Specter for me when she runs back from Sweden.

  168. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    You’re projecting, falsely calling me a Jew while you’re the one who pathetically worships a “King of Israel,” (John 1:49) and consider a foreign capital in Israel to be “holy.” (Revelation 21:2)

    You’re also projecting onto me your “vile hatred,” which is what Jewsus explicitly commanded you to do in Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.”

    Not only did Rabbi Jewsus demand you to hate your white blood kin, he demanded you forsake your soil too. (Matthew 19:27-30)

    Christians are truly what Paul described them: ignoble halfwits who believe Jewish nonsense.

    1 Corinthians 1:18-26 “For the message about the cross is nonsense…the nonsense of our preaching…Not many of you were wise by human standards…not many were noble…”

  169. @ThereisaGod

    It’s safe to say the ANC desperately wants to take all whitey’s land back from him and the only thing giving them pause is Zimbabwe. They know they aren’t smart enough to dispossess the Boers without going down the same hole. Those are literally the only two elements in any of their debates on the topic.

  170. @attilathehen

    The problem with Israel isn’t Israel: it’s the Israel lobby in the U.S.

    Israel fought for the land they have and it’s theirs to keep for as long as they can hold it. Same goes for the Palestinians.

    Jews in the US are a different story altogether.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  171. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    Okechukwu is actually a pen name used by Andrew Anglin when he wants to try to get inside and emulate the Negro mind, what there is of it, and stir his brothers to action.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  172. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    The Caucasian RCC male accepts black/Asian priests-popes? Of course! Jews are from Asia. Jesus was Asian, from the middle-eastern region of Asia. Have you ever look at a globe?

    And the Jew Testament itself shows how quickly the Church (long before the RCC) began recruiting Africans (Acts 8.26-40 – Philip and the Ethiopian), and setting up Blacks in leadership positions as “teachers and prophets” (Acts 13:1). Never looked inside the Bible either, have you?

  173. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Blacks are low IQ is a gross understatement. I prefer the scientific term “retardation” used by the South African Journal of Psychology.

    “…the mean IQ of sub-Saharan black Africans is about 70 – at the borderline of mental retardation.”

    African IQ and Mental Retardation
    South African Journal of Psychology, Vol 36, Issue 1, 2006
    journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/008124630603600101

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  174. @Wizard of Oz

    Your response makes the point — there was and no expiration date on the original ownership.

    Unlike patents which in the US must either extended in perpetuity or renewed.

    Tsk, tsk.

    Nice try as long s the extended patent is paid in full as in the case of websites, that secures the ownership — as long as it remains in the owners name — the facty that it’s not usd does not give over rights.

    How [poorly you understand copy write or ownership. But I am delighted you get the point. Hence to Africans, they own the land have never abandoned the land — squatter’s rights is a western concept tantamount to theft.

    • Replies: @Anon
  175. @Ben Sampson

    Your history is bogus and your victim complex is showing.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  176. Watching says:
    @Grumbler

    Grumbler, “rejecting whiteness” isn’t what’s going on. It boils down to an issue of legitimacy. Who are the legitimate owners of that land. Is it the racist (proven by their track record) bandits who arrived, militarized for the task of stealing what is not rightfully theirs, or the indigenous people who never invited the bandits or apportioned them any land, and were murdered, pillaged, raped and robbed by foreigners. This is the REAL issue.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  177. Watching says:
    @Them Guys

    Nothing to respond to here, just psycho-babble. Get a life.

  178. @Anonymous

    Laughing

    rather convenient to ignore the entire context

    1 Corinthians 12 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    12 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

    12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23 and those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25 that there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    In short, every member of the body of christ has a place in the body of christ and no place is assigned to all members.

    —————————————

    Having previously dealth with the nonsense about hatred I won’t cover it in detail . . . in short iteans loving and abiding in Christ more than in anything or anyone else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  179. Watching says:
    @Okechukwu

    The attempt to change the narrative to an issue of race has failed. Intelligent people know that this is an issue of “legitimacy”. Who are the legitimate owners of the land. Is it the militarized bandits who arrived with the intention of robbing, pillaging, raping and land theft, or the rightful indigenous people. Anyone with a brain doesn’t have to think very hard to answer that. This new policy is late in coming, but better late than never.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  180. Watching says:
    @Bucky

    Racists really are stupid. You’ve just confirmed the intentions of the racist marauding gentiles as well as their nefarious deeds committed by those satanic heathens.

  181. Watching says:
    @Anon

    Your strawman response is as silly as you are.Your personal comments don’t impress me, I’ve heard worse. To suggest that anyone can appropriate the land of another under any pretext is sheer stupidity, which is indicative of your mentality. Just face the reality that the crimes committed over recent centuries has come to an end. Those racist, murderous criminals have capitalized, for centuries, on their nefarious crimes. Time to be happy for the centuries of theft and other crimes and just go away.

    • Replies: @Anon
  182. Clyde says:
    @Ben Sampson

    When the Boers settled South Africa it was basically empty. Very few black Africans. It was not an invasion where battles were fought against native blacks. Contrast this with America where we had many white American vs Indian wars to subdue the indigenous Indians. The English settlers came after the Boers.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  183. cassandra says:
    @cassandra

    An addendum to an earlier comment:

    My best guess is that after the country collapses, and when attention wanes just enough for media to be able to totally ignore the situation, corporations (e.g., Monsanto or Cargill) will buy up formerly prosperous farm land for a song.

    To flesh out the details a bit, the program is:

    Politically destroy the economically prosperous and independent middle class, which
    reduces economic prosperity (as jilles dykstra lamented).
    Offer personal and government loans, freely at first, to those trying to maintain former living standards & social programs.
    When the debt becomes unsustainable, offer to restructure the loans.
    This round, impose terms of “responsible” state reforms, including social austerity & resource privatization.
    If the population objects, no more money for their ATM machines until terms are accepted.

    This formula delivers a country’s policy-making power into the hands of the western banking system, and delivers its resources to corporate institutions. It’s been used in Europe, notably in Greece.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  184. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Every white, indian and educated black with a brain will leave SA.

    Sort of like every Brit with a brain and the means left for SA for years after WW2 to escape the post war rationing and lingering war socialism and slavery?

    I have a hard time seeing that what’s going on in SA today is very different from what went on in the Ukraine and other places with the various money bag funded “revolutions” a few years back and what scared “jews” out of Germany almost a century ago.

    It reminds me also of the retarded, out of control, blanket demonization of Muslims that raged here in the US for years that though thankfully somewhat muted, still occurs.

    Before we demonize the blacks and “Coloureds,” maybe we should peek behind the curtain a bit since it should be obvious by now that history repeats and that “divide and conquer” seems to have worked well for our masters.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  185. @Anonymous

    Thanks for bringing that up.

    I liked this part…

    18-21 … It’s written,

    I’ll turn conventional wisdom on its head,
    I’ll expose so-called experts as crackpots.

    So where can you find someone truly wise, truly educated, truly intelligent in this day and age? Hasn’t God exposed it all as pretentious nonsense?

    For all our “high IQs” and material well being, that applies to “humanity” today equally well. Much else in that letter does too.

    Hey, get this.:

    11-12 …you’re fighting among yourselves!

    Who’d guess that there are those who know how to stir the pot and get even “Christians” to fight amongst themselves?

  186. @Song For the Deaf

    Please don’t turn a deaf ear to this,

    This dumb [but no doubt well compensated] leadership will destroy their own country like Zimbabwe did [and the USA has long been doing] and become (even more like) putty in the hands of international banking thieves who care NOTHING for the general well-being of either colour of South African.

    That’s the whole deal, summed up perfectly.

  187. @Anonymous

    …and stir his brothers to action.

    For the benefit of certain international banksters no doubt. Just like the dupes who supported Commie-nizm and who still support Political Zio-nizm, like, I suspect, the author of this piece.

  188. @Anonymous

    I think it’s pretty retarded to blindly accept “authority” like that as well.

    And even if true, so what?

    Here’s another “authority” for ya and a rich one as well, so he had to be right, right?

    One of the leading advocates of circumcision was John Harvey Kellogg. He also advocated the consumption of Kellogg’s corn flakes to prevent masturbation, which he said caused weak mindedness.

    Do Kellogg’s Corn Flakes Help Control Masturbation?

    By MICHAEL ASHWORTH, PH.D.
    In the early part of this century, John Harvey Kellogg gained a reputation both as a nutritionist and a sexual adviser. The foods that Kellogg created (including the now-famous corn flakes) were designed to promote health and decrease interest in sex.
    Mr. Kellogg thought sex was the ultimate abomination and remained celibate even in marriage. Masturbation was the worst sin imaginable to him. He believed it led to leprosy, tuberculosis, heart disease, epilepsy, dimness of vision, insanity, idiocy, and death. He also preached that masturbation led to bashfulness in some people, unnatural boldness in others, a fondness for spicy foods, round shoulders, and acne. That’s quite a list!

    http://psychcentral.com/lib/do-kelloggs-corn-flakes-help-control-masturbation/

    Should their imagined retardation be dealt with by circumcision, or should they just consume more corn flakes, or what? ;)

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  189. @cassandra

    This formula delivers a country’s policy-making power into the hands of the western banking system, and delivers its resources to corporate institutions.

    Your comments are breaths of fresh air. Please keep ‘em up.

  190. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Um, “wall of text” is not equivalent to “context.” It’s a vile lie to suggest I took anything out of context. Get a dictionary and look up context some day. And speaking of context, do show us the quote from the Jew Testament that includes what you dishonest Christians always add to Luke 14:26, i.e., “more than in anything or anyone else.” It does NOT say that. You are flat-out lying in an attempt to make excuses for the degenerate Jewish Rabbi you worship.

    every member of the body of christ

    Including South African President Cyril Ramaphosa. He’s a Christian raised in a Christian family. And he’s your Brother in Kikechrist. That’s the sort of humiliation a servile Shabbos goy like you you must endure when you’re stupid enough to worship a Jew.

  191. @Rurik

    This is my pet theory, and it’s the only thing that makes any sense to me, to explain their pathological;, psychopathic and all-consuming hatred.

    It’s too early in the morning for me to reply and attempt salience here, but that’s never stopped me before.

    Jews have existed solely at the sufferance of us goyim whether pagan or Yeshuan. We could eradicate them about as easily as hitting the ‘agree’ button at the bottom of my post (hint hint). Yet their mythology says YHWH chose them and they alone are entitled to rule and profit. This is like a sheep farmer who discovers his sheep are in fact lions. Furthermore, virtually all of the Jews’ ideas backfire disastrously on them. The suicide cult of Yeshuanity and its echoes which toppled empires can’t really be said to have been good for the Jews can it? It’s natural follow on, Marxism/socialism/communism has been used as the precursor itself to keep the goyische sheeple in line with similar blowback. Still the damn goyim could eradicate Jews on a whim. What the hell? Why won’t our sheeple act like sheeple and just let us herd them?

    Anger, jealousy, natural human tribalism, sense of entitlement, utter disregard and disrespect of the Yeshuan cult they foisted upon us, all these are swirling in the collective consciousness. Mix in the goyim = Nazi similac they’re fed from birth..

    The ethic Ashkenazim who have abandoned their Neolithic mythology can reach the objectivity of the atheist/agnostic white European and become indistinguishable. Many secular Jews even embrace the toxic suicidality of Yeshuan culture to become “self-hating Jews” don’t they? Others get downright insane at the internal conflict between their remaining ethic tribalism and the anti-tribalism of Yeshuan society.

    Jews are a very conflicted and thus neurotic people. They’re smart, especially verbally, which magnifies everything they do. Just like smarter Yeshuans can twist themselves into pretzel knots trying to make some sense of Stone Age mythical beliefs in the Space Age, Jews can construct some really epic word salads explicating their blindness.

    Some really do hate us I have no doubt. But the billionaire Jews club is comprised almost entirely of psychopaths (how else does one become a billionaire?) and I don’t see hate there so much as complete lack of regard for anyone or anything that doesn’t serve their personal interests. I compare goys Bill Gates and Paul Allen for example with the former clearly being far more psychopathic than the latter. Ballmer, like Gates, is psychopathic, hence the two of them did away with the normie in their midst.

    Our problem is much less the Jews, their tribalism, and their mythology than it is the alien cult they foisted on us. It’s anti human nature and suicidal. It will be our doom. The Jews are ultimately a tick on a Mastiff. It’s not the tick that hurts the giant dog, but the disease the tick carries.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  192. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    It’s not jewish infighting? LOL Jewsus was a Jewish Rabbi who was very popular with the Jews.

    “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15

    To suggest we must follow Jewsus because the Jews hated and killed him is equivalent to following Trotsky because the Communists hated and killed him.

    Jews are going to fight. And kill each other sometimes. There’s no good reason for taking sides in Jew-on-Jew violence.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  193. @Rurik

    Yes. Jealousy needs to be kept in check but it is usually relatively benign. Envy, on the other hand, is inherently destructive and dangerous. Which is why Organized Jewry – which is all-consumed with preventing non-Jews from having what they perceive Jews to have – is such a threat, not just to Whites but humanity itself.

  194. @jacques sheete

    Yeah, African-sounding name but my guess is it’s some dumb-ass (white?) student making a lame attempt to sound authentic but really just achieving (bad) caricature.

  195. @Stan d Mute

    Valid point that any White who hasn’t woken up by now is a hopeless fool, and no sympathy for gamblers trying to time the market top. However, some of your comment is not fair, as many Whites simply lack the resources to leave and resettle. The situation of these people is unquestionably tragic and they deserve our sympathy.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  196. @attilathehen

    Sorry, are you seriously suggesting that, e.g., Christian Zionists are the real force behind Jewish Power? If so, that’s just ludicrous.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  197. @Song For the Deaf

    But they can’t keep it without the unlimited and unconditional support of the US, hence the need for their fifth column in the US. There is no real distinction between the Israeli state and Organized Jewry (Hitler nailed that point in Mein Kampf, FWIW).

  198. @Stan d Mute

    So why then do Jews make so much money? UK, United States, Canada. They’re always ONE of the high-tier income groups.

    If they are such primitive and savage people, why aren’t they the ones whose jobs are threatened? Why isn’t their out-of-wedlock birth rate out of control? Why aren’t they ravished by drugs like heroin or meth?

    How many Jews are on welfare? How many Jewish women are wandering around with fatherless children from some worthless whigger or black thug? How many Jewish women work the truck stops as hookers?

    I’m not Jewish and I am proudly white but I believe in objectivity. Jews manage to make money. Why?

  199. Rogue says:

    Most South African land is unsuitable for commercial agriculture. The 72% (or thereabouts) ownership of the land by Whites so often stated is deliberately misleading – for the simple reason that this pertains to agricultural land only, therefore a significant minority of the land, and not the whole of South Africa. I think the land suitable for commercial agricultural purposes is about 13%.

    Both the SA government and general lying media from wherever they are, like to be conveniently fuzzy on this point.

    Of course, the White-owned farmland successfully farms and produces food, both for local consumption and export, whilst it is a proven fact that most of the farmland redistributed to SA Blacks in the last couple of decades have been utter failures.

    According to a Black SA government minister several years ago, within whose portfolio this was relevant, at least 90% of these redistributed farms had failed.

    Also, it should be noted, 80% of Black land claimants over the last couple of decades have opted for the money value of the land, and not the land itself – so much for the deep attachment to the soil so valued by propagandists.

    Of course, Whites are not the original owners of the land – and neither are the Blacks. The original owners, or inhabitants, were the Khoisan people, squeezed out or dispossessed by both Whites and Blacks. The ANC government of SA, lying, criminal and breathtakingly corrupt – truly the embodiment of a kleptocracy – pretend that the Bantus are the indigenous people, which they’re not. Not only did the Bantus dispossess the Khoisan but there is sufficient evidence to show that they dispossessed each other as well.

    Furthermore, a great deal of the land supposedly stolen by Whites was actually legally purchased from tribal chiefs in previous centuries.

    Lastly, I do not like terms like “White genocide” with regards to South Africa, as it overstates the case. A more nuanced term like “slow” or “subtle” White genocide would be, if not entirely accurate, somewhat closer to the mark. If an understanding of genocide is not restricted to the mass killing of people, but a deliberate policy of “encouraging” the targeted group to disappear by whatever means – primarily through barbaric acts of violence and terror (and threats thereof) – then a term like “subtle White genocide” would not be entirely amiss in SA today. Certainly, this definitely applies to White farmers and their families, as they are clearly the most singled out demographic for violently depraved attacks, and government indifference (or even tacit encouragement).

    • Replies: @iffen
  200. Malla says:
    @obwandiyag

    %80 black = own %5 of the land

    That is no excuse of redistribution. The blacks have increased their population far more than the Whites.
    Besides, in a video I had posted in a different thread, a White farmer from Zimbabwe who was now in Zambia told that he had purchased his land AFTER 1980. That is, he took his permission from the Zimbabwean Government with the ZANU PF party in charge. The government gave him a clearance and he started commercial farming. Yet his farm too was invaded by ‘freedom fighters’ and he was driven off his land. How is that justice to him?
    It seems more like punishing Whites than anything else.
    As long as Whites live in South Africa, they will be blamed for the failures of the ANC government. They will be the punching bag. The best result will be if either:
    1] Whites get their own country out of the Republic of South Africa.
    2] Or Whites leave and go. In this case, both the South African government and other governments around the world should help them leave.

  201. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m not suggesting you follow anyone. Jesus Christ became a danger to the ruling jewish class because of his teachings. As I stated, Jesus Christ was not a Pharisee, but was a Essene. Yes, he was popular with the “lower class”, who were also derided, but tolerated by the Pharisees. The “lower class” was tolerated as long as they came to the “moneylenders” in the synagogues. Let’s face it…the synagogues were actually jewish-run banks of the day…
    Even today, the synagogues depend on paying members. One cannot simply walk into a synagogue and partake in their “liturgy”. Membership (with the associated fees) is required.

  202. Malla says:

    Well it seems some smart black Americans are opposing this Land appropriation and seeing through what the whole thing is all about.

    South Africa The Real Truth

    • Replies: @Watching
  203. @jacques sheete

    Before we demonize the blacks and “Coloureds,” maybe we should peek behind the curtain a bit since it should be obvious by now that history repeats and that “divide and conquer” seems to have worked well for our masters.

    Hey Jacques,

    I see you’re talking some sense as usual.

    Say, when you get a chance, could you sign up on my site, HeresyCentral.com. Actually, here’s a direct link to register:

    https://heresycentral.com/wp-login.php?action=register

    Well, that invitation is also extended to anybody who is a halfway normal sort of person, not all the assorted shills, cranks, and trolls who infest this site. Well, whether you do register or not, you might enjoy some of the recent material, like this satire:

    https://heresycentral.com/revusky/welcome-to-terra-prime/

  204. @Song For the Deaf

    They know they aren’t smart enough to dispossess the Boers without going down the same hole.

    You realize that means they’re about 1000% more self-aware than the vast majority of whites?

  205. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You appear to want to persuade people. So you should try not to write patent nonsense and proof that your arrogance is matched by your ignorance. To wit, for example you claim superior knowledge of intellectual property law and can’t even spell Copyright. Also you write of perpetual patents. An absurd attempt to rectify the analogy you mistakenly tried to make.

    You tried to make an analogy which would support people coming along decades or hundreds of years after settlement and cultivation and taking possession of farms so you could at least do yourself and your readers thr favour of getting the law and facts right.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  206. @Watching

    This is the REAL issue.

    No.

    The real issue is: Why the fuck should I care about either a bunch of retards dumb enough to live in Africa surrounded by a billion Stone Age cannibals – OR – that billion Stone Age cannibals?

    Why should I expend a penny of my earnings much less a single drop of my blood on behalf of either group? One is too stupid and cucked to have left in the 1960’s when whites were slaughtered in Kenya and the other is too primitive and evolutionarily distant to have any value to me whatever.

    I have massive problems in my house. I have 800,000 Stone Age savages within an hour drive of my family. I’m surrounded by my fellow white people who are too stupid and Yeshuanity propagandized to recognize or respond to our existential plight. And I’m supposed to worry for the brain dead mongoloid retards or their primitive cannibal friends in Africa? Piss off.

    The dumbass white South Africans will all be killed and eaten. The Africans will then all either starve to death if we don’t feed them or allow them off their ridiculously large and resource filled continent. My only concern is preventing further feeding on my dime and preventing any more of them from coming here.

  207. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Watching

    I think you must be a troll trying to provoke contempt for those who support the kleptocrats and black racists who are pretending to provide government to RSA. Why else blather on without mentioning that the population of South Africa in 1900 was 1 or 2 million but is now 55 million thanks to uncontrolled breeding by primitives who, for most of the last 200 years didn’t need and hadn’t settled most of the land – because they didn’t grow crops for trade purposes and didn’t need it to feed themselves. So, specify whose land was “stolen”. Your grandfather’s? Or did he or the sovereign government sell it to the parents or grandparents of its present occupant farmers for full monetary consideration and/or the obligation to cultivate it.

    Is the government of the RSA the lawful successor to previous governments which give it membership of the UN and other international bodies, and the benefits of treaties made by the previous government. Does it claim the right to recognise such treaties and memberships for a time and then, for local political reasons renege on them at any time? On what principle can they renege on sales made by the previous government or under the law from private owners after more than 20 years of taking taxes from the farmers and encouraging them to be productive and employ people on their land? Why not mention that recent history under a free African government?

    Are you actively seeking to make the RSA unattractive to Western investors so only tough and ruthless Chinese will get a chance to do business there?

    • Replies: @Watching
  208. @Watching

    Intelligent people know that this is an issue of “legitimacy”.

    Spoken like a truly cucked Yeshuan. The only issue, ever, is survival. Survival is a constant battle against Nature. Our only tools are intelligence and power. Intelligence is understanding Nature. Power comes from the business end of a gun.

    When Europe discovered Africa and her denizens there were two rational choices: Seal it off forever or totally and completely dominate it forever. Stupid Yeshuan cucks thought they had a third way. It failed. Catastrophically.

    Get over it.

    • Replies: @Watching
  209. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Check this out

    Jesus the Jewish Supremacist

    Yahweh The Volcano Demon

    Exposing Yahweh The Moon God

    Dr. Mahatir Mohammed, Ex PM of Malaysia says
    Jews rule the world by proxy. Jews invented Socialism, Communism, Democracy etc… for goyim control. He forgot to add, Jews invented Christianity and Islam as well.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    , @Anonymous
  210. @Clyde

    America where we had many white American vs Indian wars to subdue the indigenous Indians.

    There were “wars” only insofar and as result of retarded Yeshuan cucks giving horses and firearms to the Stone Age aborigines in America. Without our arms, there could have been no “wars.”

    • Replies: @Clyde
  211. @jacques sheete

    One of the leading advocates of circumcision was John Harvey Kellogg.

    Just one more gift to the Nation from the HBD Mitten. Seriously, do you have to live here to see this crap or what?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  212. @Jeff Stryker

    Ever heard of corporate welfare? Although, the financial sector has taken that to such an extent that it’s better characterized as large-scale theft or looting. Just as parasitical as some welfare queen, however, even worse in fact.

  213. @Jonathan Revusky

    Hey, welcome back! You and Ron settled things, I take it?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  214. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    That is satire? Well thanks for telling me. There was no way I could have guessed. But since you say so….

  215. @Song For the Deaf

    what is your problem..you cant hear!
    you are supposed to read what I wrote not try to listen to it.
    you cant understand it that way

    anyway Russia is taking white farmers. they are needed in the Vladivostock region.
    free land..immediate title..no conquest necessary

  216. @Malla

    did they not invent themselves as Jews too?

    in doing so they bought the murder of Jesus, an act committed by Black people

    oh well! Nutten comes for free

    • Replies: @Malla
  217. Malla says:
    @jacques sheete

    Only America!! South Africa too will be controlled by the tribe. South Africa was always controlled by the tribe even during Apartheid and even during the British Empire days. Johannesburg was not called New York of South Africa for nothing. South Africa will be controlled by the tribe even under the ANC or even under Malema’s EFF, if it comes into power. You think the tribe has no control over Zimbabwe? Did Mugabe do anything to the mines? He attacked the politically weak White farmers, he is not stupid to touch the mines, they would have roasted his ass ages ago if he had tried. If he had touched the mines, he would have met the same fate as Saddam or Qaddafi or Milosevic. The tribe created and funded Mugabe’s ‘revolutionaries’, they could have destroyed him if they wanted. If Whites really ran the West, Zimbabwe would have been invaded long ago and Mugabe deposed. What is the Zimbabwean army compared to Saddam’s huge tank battalions or Milosevic’s forces? Nothing. The non White world elites know that Whites do not control the powerful West. That is why they can get away with all this.
    No country got any independence from any Empire. They only got independence from the good part of the Empires (the Britishers, Frenchmen, Portuguese, Dutchmen) but not from the Jews (the bad part). All ‘independent’ countries have to still answer to the tribe created U.N., World Bank, IMF, you name it. European colonization was partially about spreading the Jewish banking system throughout the world after the Jewish revolution against the Catholic church’s ban on usury in Europe. There is a book on this called ‘Religion and the Rise of Capitalism’ by Mr. Tawney. Whites (unknown to them) were used as weapons to spread this system around the world via colonization. Then the tribe itself funded all the fake ‘independence struggles’ and ‘communist struggles’ and all the fault of colonization fell on the White Europeans (the good naive frontmen for the Jew banking elites). Whites became the punching bag so that Jews could run scot free from any blame. Now they use the non White world as weapons against Whitey.
    This is one of their standard operating techniques: Use forces against each other. For example, use Christian Europeans as weapons against the Middle Eastern Islamic World and then use Muslims as weapons against the European Christian World, the Ottoman Empire for one such example. Corrupt the Catholic Church and then at the same time support the Protestant Reformation. Hide your involvement in the Opium trade under Whitey British flag. All Chinese hate Whitey British but not the tribe behind the scenes (the Sassoons for example). Hide your involvement in the trans Atlantic Slave trade put all blame on all Whitey by using Hollywood and the tribe controlled education system. Similarly use the Empires to exploit the colonies while the Whiteys do the good work in the colonies, then fund all these fake “independence struggles”/ “communist struggles” against the same tribe controlled Empires but direct the hatred against Whitey frontmen. Of course I do not mean each and every White person was a good person and each and every Jewish person was bad, that would be ridiculous. There were bad Europeans and good Jews at an individual level, but it was the way I explained above when one sees the bigger picture. All fake independence struggles just like the ANC vs National Party controlled South African government fake struggle, the tribe had infiltrated both sides. They had infiltrated the Afrikaner Broederbond three decades ago and the ANC? Well they have been controlling it from it’s start. After Independence the “Independent nations” teach hatred for Whitey in their schools and colleges to millions of brown black kids, while the post colonial “studies” departments do the same in Western Universities. All this so that no body finds out the tribe’s hand in anything, everybody blames Whitey and do the dirty work of the tribe to destroy Whitey (their number one enemy). Also after the Holohoax, a suffering the tribe says is far superior to the suffering of any lowly goyim, White or non White, the tribe is more or less untouchable. At the same time all these third worlders are made to believe that they are truly “independent now”. Not true, you are independent from the Whiteys (the good guys who were used as a front) but never from the tribal bankers. Even the Whitey countries are not independent of the tribal bankers. You still have to take a side in the fake Capitalist vs Communist fake Cold War, still have to become a member of the U.N., still have to take loans from the tribal World Bank or IMF who will do a good job of looting you. If any non White leader attempts to really become INDEPENDENT, you get regime changes and assassinations. Or invasions just like what Saddam, Milosevic, Gaddafi, Hitler or Mussolini faced. While the idiotic ignorant masses of the third world celebrate their “INDEPENDENCE DAYS” and “Freedom Fighter Heroes” like fools.
    Whew whatta megascam.

    BTW about the U.N., this is interesting. It seems that the Rothschilds wanted to create a U.N./League of Nations like organization, centuries ago. They were only stopped by the Romanovs of Russia. From that time onward they have been funding revolutionary movements in Tsarist Russia against the Romanovs, all carried out by Jewish “revolutionaries” culminating in the Bolshevik “revolution”. This explains all those strange assassination attempts on all the Russian Tsars in the 19th century (1800s).

    Check this out in the short 4 minute video about the Rothschild’s hatred against the Romanovs of Russia who prevented them from creating a United Nations like organisation centuries ago.

    The UN is of course a precursor to a One World Government.

  218. Malla says:
    @Ben Sampson

    did they not invent themselves as Jews too?

    Yeah Shlomo Sand, an Israeli researcher and one of those few honest Jews had written about the invention of the Jewish people.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  219. cassandra says:
    @attilathehen

    “A land without people for a people without a land.” :

    There were not many people in Palestine when the Jews conquered it.

    Conquered is right. This is a myth, and the story is the opposite of what is commonly told.* Data appears sporadically, but a specific search for the Historic Population of Palestine turned up this article:

    https://palestineisraelpopulation.blogspot.com/?_escaped_fragment_#!

    (See also the letter at the end). According to the first graph, substantiated by following data, Jews were always a minority compared to the Arabs before Israel was officially founded. (A spot check is of the Wikipedia link confirms the 1948 UN ethnic population data).

    [MORE]

    A related myth is that Israelis were the first to cultivate the desert: Palestine oranges were already familiar to European consumers in the nineteenth century. More likely, the Israelis didn’t create an economy from scratch, they just went along with economic development following the mandate.

    We have an image that the displaced population was thin and undeveloped. My impression, based on what actual data I’ve found so far, is that Jewish settlers appropriated an existing economy already run by a Christian and Muslim Arab merchant class, many of whom were driven out one way or another, whose homes were bought up and/or taken over.

    I’m unsure about Twain’s humorous descriptions. Even today, you could write travelogues about America’s Great Western Desert, which might focus on run-down shacks and colorful mobile homes for the sake of levity, but which wouldn’t necessarily be representative of the towns and cities.

    *The “empty Palestine” picture is an example of a phenomenon: Conventional explanations of politically significant issues are almost certainly misleading. Repeat a lie often enough….

    • Replies: @Malla
  220. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Whose land was stolen given there were only 1.5 million people in the RSA in 1900 and there are now 55 million who could easily be fed from production of food on South African land? Obviously very little of the land was needed for Africans’ non commercial farming and was therefore not used at all. As the present government of the RSA is the successor to the previous sovereign governments whose treaties and memberships of UN, WTO etc it has inherited on what principle does it honour titles for 20 years and encourage investment and production on white farms which are bought for value from the previous governments of RSA or its earlier components or from previous private owners of whatever ethnicity AND now choose to expropriate those owners? Can it be that you wish to undermine the willingness of Western investors to build businesses in the RSA so that ruthless and realistic Chinese will have an easy path to profit and dominance?

    And which of the 80 descendants of the average 1900 African couple would you give the farm too?

  221. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Either he has a reading impediment or I was unclear in my bleary eyed early morning diatribe, I’ll leave that to others to discern. But I agree entirely with your comment regardless.

  222. @Beefcake the Mighty

    many Whites simply lack the resources to leave and resettle. The situation of these people is unquestionably tragic and they deserve our sympathy.

    Really? The farmers are too poor to have left in time to save themselves? When there were still even dumber farmers or speculators buying land?

    You deny their agency.

    For comparative purposes I’ll share a bit of my own history. I was abandoned in an orphanage as an infant. That orphanage was on 12th St in Detroit. The year was 1967. What happened on 12th Street in Detroit in 1967?

    I had no agency. Yet zero South African whites came to my rescue.

    They have and had full agency and did nothing to save themselves. Fuck them. My adult agency is all used up providing for my family, my neighbors, and my Nation. When DetRiot is safe and white people can freely walk down the sidewalk without getting assaulted, robbed, raped, or murdered, then I’ll shed a tear for South African (long dead by then) whites.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  223. @republic

    Thanks for posting the films. I have watched most of FARMLANDS. I knew that the South African black government never posted the brutal slayings of hundreds if not thousands of white farmers. The leftist mainstream media has also not revealed any of this.
    The Democrats and leftists live in a fantasy world. Perhaps the leftists should move to the disintegrating South African state. Of course, most American youth are coddled, ignorant , and unconcerned about world history and truth.
    The coddled youth have liberal parents and grandparents from the 60s. They are spoiled, soft, and are complainers. They have no idea how farmers work to get food to them, why their septic systems work, why they have clean water. They are eternal children. They believe whatever the mainstream media tells them.
    I do not care what happens to the lefties, the spoiled Ivy League shits. I hope they learn what it is like to not have clean water. I hope they find out life does not come down to their phones which they so depend on. I no longer believe in unity. These spoiled children vary in age: teens to 80s or so. The Marines I served with in the late 60s were far better men and too bad so many of them got a bad deal back then.
    My sense of unity is gone. America is dead. The Chinese and others could easily walk over America and by then the soft lefties will not have the real men and women to fight for them.
    The murders done to whites in South Africa are hideous.

  224. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    You do your credit no good when you post that video as if it is evidence of anything bit the fact that one can sound silly without emitting faculties directly on a UR comment thread.

    By the way. World government isn’t an especially Jewish idea. It has been a common place amongst the naive for 100 years and more.

  225. Okechukwu says:
    @Rurik

    With all due respect, what do you suppose will happen to South Africa’s economy and standard of living once the white people have been given their overdue comeuppance and put in their place, eh?

    Not relevant. First of all, white people don’t have magic abilities to do things that black people can’t do.

    Secondly, without a redress of the historical land thefts you will never have peace there.

    Thirdly, a period of transition is to be expected after a revolution. Justice first. All else will fall into place in time.

    It sure happened in Haiti, when the blacks gave the oppressive (they actually were back then) whites the ‘treatment’ – but today Haiti is a shithole.

    You are ignorant of Haiti’s history. There are other black Caribbean nations that are doing better than Eastern Europe. So it’s not a question of race. Whether or not Haiti is a shithole is irrelevant. Destroying and overthrowing oppressors is a time honored tradition in Europe itself. I’d rather live free in a “shithole” than be a slave or third class citizen on my own land.

    Ditto Zimbabwe.

    You’ve internalized the wrong lessons from Zimbabwe. After liberation the blacks waited patiently (for 20 years) for the white land thieves to be reasonable and relinquish some of their ill-gotten assets. But whites were intransigent and unreasonable. Fed up, blacks took the land by force. That provides a cautionary tale for white South Africans.

    As stated, a period of transition is always required. It took Britain over a thousand years to get itself together after Roman occupation. I’m sure there were those like you back then, supportive of Roman occupation because they brought technology and civilization to the cannibalistic barbarian savages. Nonetheless the Britons wanted them out. You have no idea where Zim will be 100 years from now or even 50 years from now. As a matter of fact:

    Tobacco farming: Land reform success story

    The revolutionary socio-economic transformation that is occurring in tobacco growing communities points to one of the outstanding success stories of the land reform.Until 2000 tobacco farming was dominated by a few white large scale commercial farmers who accounted for the bulk of the production.

    According to Food and Agricultural Organisation, there were only 2,000 commercial tobacco growers prior to the land reform programme who accounted for 87 percent of the planted hectarage.

    They also accounted for about 95 percent of the total output, equal to between 190 million kilogrammes and 230 million kilogrammes of flue-cured tobacco annually.

    Such state of affairs meant wealth generated from tobacco production only found its way into the hands of few large scale [white] farmers.

    The sector has, however, evolved since the year 2000 with close to 90,000 mostly indigenous farmers now dominating tobacco growing.

    While the transition had its challenges such as successive droughts and funding, production has steadily risen and last year, production surpassed the record 210 million kg for the first time in 14 years.

    https://www.herald.co.zw/tobacco-farming-land-reform-success-story/

    Land reform is a Zim success story – it’ll be the basis for economic recovery under Mnangagwa

    In his speech after being sworn in as Zimbabwe’s new president on November 24, Emmerson Mnangagwa, stressed the role of the country’s land reform farmers in boosting the country’s economic recovery. They have excelled recently.

    Zimbabwe produced more maize in 2017 than was ever grown by white farmers, who have repeatedly been praised for making the country into the bread basket of Africa. Maize production in 2017 was 2.2m tonnes, the highest in two decades.

    Good rains helped, but even the United States Department of Agriculture said the huge increase in maize production was “mainly due to favourable weather conditions and a special program for import substitution, commonly termed as “Command Agriculture”. That programme was implemented last year by Mnangagwa, when he was vice president.

    Under the programme, land reform farmers signed contracts for a certain number of hectares and agreed to sell at least five tonnes of maize per hectare to the Grain Marketing Board. The government provided seed, fertiliser, and, if needed, tractors and fuel for ploughing, and the cost was deducted from the sale price of the maize. Compared to 2011, another good rainfall year, maize production jumped 700,000 tonnes – more than half of which was due to the Command Agriculture programme.

    https://theconversation.com/land-reform-is-a-zimbabwe-success-story-it-will-be-the-basis-for-economic-recovery-under-mnangagwa-88205

    People simply have to be free and then the rest will sort itself out even if it takes a thousand years.

  226. Okechukwu says:
    @bj

    How about black supremacist stupidity!

    They’re not supremacists. You’ll never hear Malema say that whites are inferior or subhuman or that blacks have a god-given right to rule over whites or anything like that. These displays are reactions to white supremacy. You know, for every action there is a reaction.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  227. Anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Thanks, Malia. The Jews invented Christianity, for sure, but mainly by taking European concepts, and poisoning them. Christians keep pointing to the steak, and I’ll admit there’s steak there. I keep pointing to the rat poison, and they say I’m anti-steak for identifying the warfarin. Jewfarin? LOL I just want my steak without rat poison.

    And the main poison is Christian universalism. Pre-christian European Gods were European. Jewsus? He’s gonna save the whole κόσμον Cosmos, (John 3:16-17) the very definition of universalism. And then Europeans think they have to emulate Jewsus and save the whole world.

    Nationalists need a nationalist God, not a universalist savior. Jewsus must go for the same reason Merkel muss weg.

    S a v i o r s
    S a v e
    S c h e i s s e !

    • Replies: @Malla
  228. Okechukwu says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    What about the Cape Province? When did Bantu arrive there?

    What about it? There were San, Khoikhoi, Xhosa and Zulu there, even if they weren’t physically habitating every square inch. If you establish the principle that any uninhabited piece of land can be taken, there are vast stretches of Europe and North America that are eligible.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @Watching
  229. @Okechukwu

    “Not relevant. First of all, white people don’t have magic abilities to do things that black people can’t do.”

    It’s not called magic, it’s called IQ.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  230. Anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    But whites are supreme agriculturalists. Blacks simply don’t have the intelligence necessary to farm.

    You know, for every fact that hurts feelings, there’s a chimpout.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  231. @anonymous

    Then there is the weird in-trance like behaviour, and the nonsensical ranting above.

    To those of us who, for whatever reasons, have “been around” the Christian churches for a few decades, read the scriptures, heard the preaching, done the research and spotted the lies, half-truths and outright dishonesties and trickeries of the charlatans, that very “specialized” behaviour is seen only in the multitude of “Christian” denominations which call themselves “Pentecostalist”, or more colloquially, “born-again”. Needless to say, it is not in any sense anything whatever to do with traditional Christianity, but on the contrary, is very simply a form of demonic possession, with beliefs and practices wholly and provably directly contradictory of many different Bible “scriptures”.

    Coincidentally – but of course, not – the Pentecostalist, or “revivalist”, tradition has always historically been the preserve, not of the White man, but of the Black American – and Black African – churches. What the demon-possessed Blacks do with their “condition” once outside the walls of the weekly church gathering becomes clearer by the day. In South Africa in particular, with the lifting of the controlling influence of White civilisation, it has already reverted to satanic levels of degeneracy, random slaughter, and the return of the very oldest “taboo”, cannibalism.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-41072524

    Without action now, with Black orcs under their Jew masters seeking power in the west, we are all, eventually, doomed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  232. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Hey Gujrati Indians make a lot of money like the Jews but Gujarat in India is not gonna become a Japan, never ever.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  233. Malla says:
    @cassandra

    A related myth is that Israelis were the first to cultivate the desert: Palestine oranges were already familiar to European consumers in the nineteenth century. More likely, the Israelis didn’t create an economy from scratch, they just went along with economic development following the mandate.

    Actually it were the British who created successful commercial farms in Palestine which the Israelis took over.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  234. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    The Jews invented Christianity, for sure, but mainly by taking European concepts, and poisoning them.

    Exactly, very true.

  235. Frank Lee says:

    On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal ran a Ramaphosa-friendly article citing some statistics. I would be curious if the author, or anyone else knowledgeable on the subject, can comment on their validity. They seem hard to believe.

    WSJ:
    An Agri SA report released in June, citing police crime statistics, said the number of people killed on farms has declined over the past 20 years, reaching a low of 47 people in 2017/18 of around 19,000 people killed in violent crimes throughout the country. The statistics don’t record race.

    The number of attacks on farms—including crimes such as rape, robbery and causing bodily harm—has increased over the past two years to 561 in 2017/18. But that is down from a 2001/02 high of 1,069 attacks.”

    The ADL is also cited in the article….not surprisingly, on the side of the anti-White Supremacists. After all, Black Supremacists are A-OK.

    “U.S.-based Jewish civil-rights group Anti-Defamation League says that white supremacists have for several years tried to promote a narrative of a “white genocide” allegedly happening in South Africa.”

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  236. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    You think the tribe has no control over Zimbabwe? Did Mugabe do anything to the mines?

    I see you’ve found another article to spam with your longwinded nonsense. The only tribe that controls Zimbabwe is the Shona.

    Who made this deal with Russia?

    Russians start $3bn mine in Zimbabwe

    Lavrov and Mugabe launched the joint venture to develop the Zimbabwean deposit of platinum group metals in the Darwendale district. The mine was targeting production of 250 000 ounces annually within three years, the Zimbabwean ministry of mines said.

    https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/economy/russians-start-3bn-mine-in-zimbabwe-1751935

    Zimbabwe, like many countries, JV’s with international companies that have the experience and financing to extract precious metals and minerals. In exchange these companies pay mining fees, royalties and levies. No International Jewish cabal required.

    If you want to know who controls Zimbabwe’s mining industry, go here:

    http://www.chamberofminesofzimbabwe.com/index.php/en/

    • Replies: @Malla
  237. S says:
    @Malla

    Great post.

    Charity begins at home. That doesn’t mean one can’t care about or help others, but only do so within the context of being sure your own are taken care of first and not being harmed by whatever help you might give to others, not coincidentally the same as healthy individuals do things.

    I would add that within the Anglosphere one of the greatest failures to this day has been the failure to have succesfully dealt with the ghastly genocidal chattel slavery and its trade which took hold in the British colonies…or, at the minimum for the majority non slave holders to have at least separated themselves from that part of the population (ie powerful elements of the Anglo-Saxon elites and hangers on) that driven by short sighted greed and the ‘need to be competitive’ with their slave owning neighbors was addicted to doing anything but anything but pay their own the prevailing real time local cost of labor.

    Chattel slavery and its trade rather than being abolished was instead monetized with the 19th century introduction of the cheap labor/mass immigration system to the world by the US and UK. This terribly destructive system of wage slavery, ie ‘cheap labor’ so called, the economic and political basis of the ideology of multi-culturalism, has slowly walked itself back to the English homeland itself.

    Much of what people see as ‘philanthropy’ within the multi-cultural mass immigration system parallels closely what might historically be termed ‘doting’ by slave owners upon their chattel slaves. To demonstrate their great care for their slaves in front of their slave owning associates they would on certain holidays, (ie Christmas) throw a turkey or two into the slave quarters with a barrel of whiskey while letting them off for a few hours.

    Of course if these slave owners actually truly cared about their slaves they would not be enslaving these persons in the first place. You have the same paralleling situation with the imported wage slave (ie cheap labor ‘immigrant’) which the former would be slave owner also dotes upon, now using other people’s money to do so in the form of public welfare expenditures.

    In each instance (going back to circa 1620 in British North America when chattel slavery was introduced) the one doing the doting upon these unfortunate persons only in reality actually ‘cares’ about them to the extent that they represent unpaid or stolen labor cost, as opposed to the prevailing real time local wage he would be paying typically to one of his own people. In other words they just care about the financial value of the stolen labor at the expense of their own people.

    As to just how much labor they have been stealing: in the case of Chinese being imported by diktat into California in the mid 19th century this was found by the California state legislature (when forced to investigate in the 1870′s) to be often upwards of seventy percent below whatever the prevailing local rate of labor was for the area they were being imported into. Of course you get even more of a ‘hit’ when you go to prostrate China today and pay ten cents/one dollar an hour instead of the likely 15 to 20 dollars the labor is in reality worth.

    In Massachusetts, a place that had chattel slavery as did the south, albeit fewer per capita, and where chattel slavery was monetized early on with the introduction of ‘cheap labor’, the textile factory magnate Abbot Lawrence eschewing his own Anglo-Saxon people (ie the ‘Yankee Girls’ whom had been doing the factory work) would in the 1840′s order the construction of the planned industrial city of Lawrence, Massachusetts.

    This city would house large numbers of the Irish Roman Catholic cheap laborers imported from famine stricken Ireland to work his textile plants there and which as the US ambassasador to the UK he would be able to facilitate in their importation. Not coincidentally from that time to this day the city has had the official nickname ‘Immigrant City’.

    Not coincidentally in the background to all this is that Massachusetts had historically been the very center of the slave trade in British North America and that it was these very same early New England industrialists (or their immediate family ancestors) whom had often been heavily involved in the trade, besides often enough having owned household slaves themselves.

    The cotton to feed those Lawrence, Mass textile plants came from the southern states with their costly and inefficient chattel slave labor, as opposed to the much more profitable and efficient imported wage slave labor of places such as the New England states, the significant added costs to the textiles due to this innefficient southern labor system probably drove these money centered textile factory magnates almost mad. Picture Dicken’s Scrooge in his counting house regarding some of these factory owners.

    What to do?

    You put your money where your mouth is and you find a way to support the introduction of the wage slave (ie ‘cheap labor’) system into the US south where the cotton feeding your mills originates. You do this by supporting, if it was not these same elites who came up with it in the first place for this very reason, ‘abolitionism’.

    In a tale of two cities that most have likely never heard, the Lawrence family of textile factory magnates based in Massachusetts financed a sister city of Lawrence, Mass constructed in the contested territory of Kansas. Lawrence, KS would act as a base for the abolition minded ‘Free Soilers’ who were being shipped in from the north by north-eastern industrialist (some being sent directly from ‘Immigrant City’, ie Lawrence, Mass itself) to oppose the pro-slavery forces being shipped in from Missouri by southern plantation owners.

    Bitter fighting broke out in the latter 1850′s between the privately financed guerilla armies representing each side’s interest in Kansas. Lawrence, KS was right in the thick of this in what would be soon known across the world as ‘Bleeding Kansas’. Kansas would be a microcosm of the coming US Civil War only a few short years later.

    Lawrence, KS – Founded 1854

    When Robinson and Branscomb informed the New England Emigrant Aid Company that they had a location in mind, twenty-nine emigrants—a group that Eli Thayer would later call the “pioneer colony”—volunteered to secure the land.

    Led by Branscomb, the pioneer party left Boston, Massachusetts and set out for Kansas Territory on July 17, 1854; according to Thayer’s antislavery newspaper the Kansas Crusader for Freedom: “Immense crowds had gathered [in Boston] at the station to give them a parting God-speed. They moved out of the station amid the cheering of the crowds who lined the track for several blocks.”

    Lawrence was founded by the New England Emigrant Aid Company, and was named for Amos Adams Lawrence, who offered financial aid and support for the settlement. Lawrence was central to the “Bleeding Kansas” period and was the site of the Wakarusa War (1855) and the Sack of Lawrence (1856). During the American Civil War (1861–65), it was also the site of the Lawrence Massacre (1863).

    Lawrence was founded “strictly for political reasons” having to do with the issue of slavery, which was heavily debated in the United States during the early-to-mid 1800s.

    As to just how much more profitable and efficient the wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’) system of the US north was in comparison to the opposing chattel slave system of the US south we actually do have some rough idea. Was it in reality enough to cause money fixated north-eastern industrialist to painfully part with large amounts of their cash and sink it into ‘bleeding Kansas’ in support of ‘free soilers’ whom vicariously were also fighting for these industrialist’s much beloved northern wage slavery system?

    You bet!

    We have the economic calculations of no less than a former territorial governor (1857) of ‘bleeding Kansas’ in the person of Robert Walker. Walker, a former US treasurer and slave speculator* while acting as the financial representative of the Lincoln administration in London in 1863 and seeking financing for the Union war effort made economic calculations which compared the labor efficiency/productivity of heavily reliant on chattel slavery South Carolina with heavily reliant on wage slavery (ie imported ‘cheap labor’ so called) Massachusetts. In both places, the Anglo-Saxon population had largely been displaced (SC was 55% African slave in 1860, formerly Protestant Anglo-Saxon Boston that same year was largely now Roman Catholic Irish) due to these manifestations of slavery, the essence of which is simply the systematic theft of a person’s labor driven by the desire not to pay the prevailing real time local cost of labor to typically to one’s own.

    Going to some lengths in taking variables into account Walker calculated that wage slavery based Massachusetts had a level of efficiency/productivity four times that of chattel slavery based South Carolina. These calculations were part of an open letter from Walker while in London appearing as an article of the March, 1864 edition of the Continental Monthly explaining to the US public why the war from an economic point of had to be fought by the north.

    London – December 2, 1863

    “The educated free labor of Massachusetts, we have seen, doubles the products of toil, per capita, as compared with Maryland, and quadruples them (as the Census shows) compared with South Carolina….” Robert Walker

    Apparently seeing figures like this the London banks were quite pleased to finance the US (Union) war effort as part of the British Empire’s global push to monetize chattel slavery and its trade everywhere via the introduction of the cheap labor/mass immigration system, the latter forming the very economic and political basis of today’s multi-cultual society. That loan today would be worth many billions of dollars.

    Loan to Finance US (Union) War Effort – 1863′

    ‘…in 1863 as financial agent of the United States, where he fostered confidence in the financial resources of the United States. He secured a loan of $250,000,000 in “5-20″ bonds.’

    When Abraham Lincoln gave his November, 1863, Gettyburg Address, much celebrated for its shortness, conciseness, and brevity, at the dedication of the battlefield cemetary there, this being only a short few weeks prior to the economic calculations made by Walker in London…wouldn’t Lincoln’s speech have been even more short and concise, let alone truthful, had he in explaining why all those young men had to die there simply read to the grieving relatives of the Gettysburg battlefield dead the economic calculations like Walkers comparing the productivity/efficiency of Massachusetts’ wage slavery compared to that of South Carolina’s chattel slavery?

    It’s true Lincoln probably would of been torn spindly limb from spindly limb before being able to skedaddle off the stage by the enraged deceased soldier’s family members…

    Even so.

    We want our leaders to be honest with us about things, don’t we?

    In the story of Lawrence, Kansas and of Lawrence, Massachusetts we have not just a tale of two cities, but also a rare visible manifestation of the struggle between two expressions of slavery, chattel and its monetization, wage slavery.

    Haven’t heard this aspect of things? One of the spoils of war is that the victors get to write the history books.

    I’ll leave the last word in this to a seemingly repentant southernor writing forty years after the war whose family had been one of the privileged ’4,000′** families which had ruled over the US slave-holding south. She puts in words what the more commercially orientated northerner Robert Walker had put in his economic calculations comparing South Carolina and Massachusetts.

    ‘…the rise of the modern industrial system made wage slavery a more efficient agent of production than chattel slavery..’

    ‘..It was a pure case of economic determinism, which means that our great moral conflict reduces itself, in the last analysis, to a question of dollars and cents.’

    The War Time Journal of a Georgia Girl – 1905

    ‘Our Southern States, being still in the agricultural stage, on account of our practical monopoly of the world’s chief textile staple, were the last of the great civilized nations to find chattel slavery less profitable than wage slavery, and hence the “great moral crusade” of the North against the perverse and unregenerate South. It was a pure case of economic determinism, which means that our great moral conflict reduces itself, in the last analysis, to a question of dollars and cents, though the real issue was so obscured by other considerations that we of the South honestly believe to this day that we were fighting for States Rights, while the North is equally honest in the conviction that it was engaged in a magnanimous struggle to free the slave….the rise of the modern industrial system made wage slavery a more efficient agent of production than chattel slavery.’

    *Walker, prior to having gotten out of this business, bought slaves to speculate on their value. Slaves would be purchased and held (either ‘warehoused’ and occasionally leased or as chain gangs on the road) until their price substantially rose and then be re-sold.

    **The southern slave holding elite which ruled over the US south referred to themselves as the ’4000′ in reference to the three thousand families owning a hundred or more slaves and the one thousand ‘technocrat’ families which administered and maintained the slavery system there. George Washington’s slave holding family would have been one of these.

    http://www.cityoflawrence.com

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence,_Kansas

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._Walker

    http://slavenorth.com

    https://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/andrews/andrews.html

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/mb?a=listis&c=1930843488

  238. Okechukwu says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    It’s not called magic, it’s called IQ.

    There’s no evidence that whites are innately smarter than blacks. If IQ actually measured intrinsic intelligence it wouldn’t be so susceptible to such wild swings in group and individual averages. Ironically, you’d actually have to be smart to come to that understanding.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  239. iffen says:
    @Okechukwu

    So it’s not a question of race.

    Apparently it is in South Africa.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  240. @Malla

    well they are not Semites but white people who converted to Judaism. they knew nothing about Palestine before they got there last century. they have no historical connection to Palestine. they have written a whole Palestine story for themselves that never happened, gave themselves a social provenance they do not have

    Israel is a scam a thousand years old that should have not been allowed to happen. but the white people, the white power in the world, knew the Jews are white, which is why Israel is so supported, protected allowed to be the global predator and parasite that it is

    now the Jews have always portrayed Iscariot as Black to put down black people…and now the Blacks have grabbed hold of the Black Jesus now admitted. But Iscariot and Jesus weren’t parachuted into Palestine as the only Blacks in a white population. the population was totally Black colonized by Rome. Jesus the itinerant preacher ran afoul of the Black local satraps and was hung for his troubles

    what was Jesus..prolly a healer who did what we now know as normal things to heal people. I suspect that he did not bleed people to cure them but made them rest and fed them well to make their immune system kick in and heal them. I dont know but I think Jesus was killed for being some kind of sorcerer. but he was no son of god. that is later Jewish and western creation..like Elijah and David and Solomon and Abraham..all out of whole cloth

    but the poster with the hearing disability told me my history is wrong. of course it is wrong except where it describes white genocide of Black people, apartheid, creating all manner of horror in Africa.

    WHO THE HELL KNOWS WHAT THE HISTORY ACTUALLY WAS GIVEN WHITE LIVES ALL OVER THE WAY THE WORLD WAS..HISTORY. ALL WHITE PEOPLE DO IS LIE..ALL THE TIME. WHO KNOWS WHAT IS TRUE FROM WHAT ISN’T

    I DISCOVERED THAT AT THE WHITE MANS UNIVERSITY..LIES IN ALL THINGS..EVEN WHERE THEY CAN LIE IN SCIENCE THE WHITE MAN LIES. I MADE SURE MY CHILDREN DEVELOPED A HEALTHY SKEPTICISM AND STEERED THEM CLEAR AWAY FROM THE HUMANITIES. SCIENCE AND AREAS OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE ETERNALLY USEFUL LIKE ACCOUNTING AND COMPUTER SCIENCE

    WE WOULD STRUGGLE ON OUR OWN TO TRY FILTER SOME KIND OF REASONABLE IMPRESSION OF THE REAL HISTORY OF HUMANITY

    I know for eg that science does not as yet know how matter/energy/electricity came into being..and that is not know no story of origins can be anything but fiction. so god created the earth in 6 days is crap. the Big Bang is crap…all stories of creation are crap…we simply do not know as yet.

    we will not get to the truth until we end capitalism, institute general ownership of the means of production by all those who work in industry and collective decision-making when it comes to how things are run and what to do with the surplus. formations of collective ownership and decision-making eliminate exploitation and can drive the development of collective and democratic ways of life the eliminates the general hostility in human relations produced by exploitative society

    in such a situation no truth challenges any group’s existence for no existence would be based on exploitation of humans by humans. and as we need truth to know how to survive in the universe then all rationality and fact woud be welcomed and valued.

    so all this nonsense going on here is a sad waste of time to me. all we can prove is what we have lived through. we will have to wait for the democracy before we can prove when went on and to be able to truth the general knowledge that becomes the human intellectual content afterwards

    so all of this here is mostly crap to me. I will not take it seriously. I know that the land in Africa must be taken back and given to its former owners. I would not kill white people as a Black man but I would not allow the criminals to walk. I would not expel White Africans but I would eliminate instantaneously all systems of privilege. white Africans would have to become citizens of their African countries in the most valid sense of the term citizen with the same rights and responsibilities as everyone, and work for their countries of get out. the choice is theirs

    I would attack all multi-nationals frontally, totally with the end point of eliminating them in Africa as internal factors of the life period. we may do business with them by imports externally if there are no alternatives. but they would not be allowed to participate in African life in any other way. the existence and function of multi-national corporations is anti-life, anti nature and they must be eliminated..all they do must be refashioned into popular control and organization

    I see people here talking all kind of nonsense, disrespectful abusive nonsense. I dont see how white people are smarter than any other human group. white people have run the world for centuries now and look at the state of the planet! I rest my case.

    Africans are the oldest part of the human population. the African way runs afoul of the white ways. Africans do not destroy the planet except where Africans have become brainwashed by white capitalist short-sighted insanity

    in the end the constitution by which humanity is supposed to live is nature itself. when we write national constitutions we go contrary to nature and produce the global failure we now have..facing human extinction itself. written national constitutions are the product of minority social control..tools of human domination and exploitation of each other. and all the sub-rules and regulations that come from national constitutions make a pigs breakfast of the routine lives of peoples..all in favor of minority control and their social parasitism.

    all humans are from the same root and must survive in nature. we will not survive with any certainty unless we come to really know nature and how we have come to be, and what we can do to ensure indefinite human security in nature. this is a project that is larger than the whole human species at this time but there is no survival unless we get to it. we can do so only by eliminating minority controlled society, making popular democracies which are free to focus on the real issues of existence..how can we survive indefinitely in an evolutionary natural reality .

    we know this now..questions like this. such questions make all the sectarian nonsense into the waste of time it is..a waste of time that is tantamount to human or racial suicide and by the use of racial here I mean the human race in toto..suicidal

    (forgive the typos…I have no time to edit)

  241. Okechukwu says:
    @Anonymous

    But whites are supreme agriculturalists. Blacks simply don’t have the intelligence necessary to farm.

    And yet blacks taught whites how to farm rice in America.

    During the 1700s the American colonists in South Carolina and Georgia discovered that rice would grow well in the moist, semitropical country bordering their coastline. But the American colonists had no experience with the cultivation of rice, and they needed African slaves who knew how to plant, harvest, and process this difficult crop. The white plantation owners purchased slaves from various parts of Africa, but they greatly preferred slaves from what they called the “Rice Coast” or “Windward Coast”—the traditional rice-growing region of West Africa, stretching from Senegal down to Sierra Leone and Liberia. The plantation owners were willing to pay higher prices for slaves from this area, and Africans from the Rice Coast were almost certainly the largest group of slaves imported into South Carolina and Georgia during the 18th century.

    https://glc.yale.edu/gullah-rice-slavery-and-sierra-leone-american-connection

    Africans had been farming and herding successfully (where the environment permitted it) long before Europeans stepped foot there. African farming, predates by a wide margin, farming in Europe.

    Like I said upthread, white supremacist talking points, owing to the stupidity of white supremacists, are too easy to refute. A child could do it.

  242. Rogue says:
    @Okechukwu

    What about the Cape Province? When did Bantu arrive there?

    What about it? There were San, Khoikhoi, Xhosa and Zulu there

    There were San and Khoikhoi in what was the old Cape Province, and some Xhosas on the very eastern fringes of the province, but no Zulus or any other large-scale Bantu settlement within it.

    As for the new province of the Western Cape, there would have been no Bantu settlement before Whites arrived.

    Of course, provincial demarcations are purely man-made.

    Also, the Khoisan people did not welcome the Bantus with open arms, just like a settled population anywhere in all of history (barring the madness of the current West) have always resisted invaders.

    The Coloured population of SA today have the closest blood ties to the old Khoi people, amongst all the mainstream ethnicities within the country, and one doesn’t get the impression they have much confidence in the Black majority.

    Nor, apart from lip service, do the Blacks of SA appear to have any real interest in the plight or future prospects of the Coloured people.

    A common refrain amongst Coloureds is that they weren’t White enough in the past under White rule – and now not Black enough under Black rule.

  243. @Okechukwu

    Yeah, I know, Wakanda, etc. Funny thing is, you’re not African, or even Black. Just some clueless SJW type who’s too stupid to know what’s outside their bubble.

    • LOL: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  244. @Okechukwu

    In other words, Whites were smart enough to pay someone else for the information than figure it out themselves (which they obviously would been able to do in short order). You’re welcome.

    And you’re not Black, so knock off the stupid “white supremacist” nonsense.

  245. Okechukwu says:
    @Frank Lee

    An Agri SA report released in June, citing police crime statistics, said the number of people killed on farms has declined over the past 20 years, reaching a low of 47 people in 2017/18 of around 19,000 people killed in violent crimes throughout the country. The statistics don’t record race.

    The number of attacks on farms—including crimes such as rape, robbery and causing bodily harm—has increased over the past two years to 561 in 2017/18. But that is down from a 2001/02 high of 1,069 attacks.”

    Why do you assume that farm attacks target whites exclusively? South Africa doesn’t keep statistics by race and black workers are the most vulnerable people on those farms.

    It just so happens that farms are easier targets because they’re so isolated. And it just so happens that white farmers are disproportionately affected because whites stole all the best arable lands.

  246. @Okechukwu

    BTW, the chart of maize production that Hanlon uses to make his “argument” shows that he’s either a moron or dishonest (likely both).

  247. Okechukwu says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Funny thing is, you’re not African, or even Black. Just some clueless SJW type who’s too stupid to know what’s outside their bubble.

    LOL. Many people on this site who’ve read my posts can attest to my background. I’m as black and as African as can be, without even trace amounts of European DNA.

    Sorry, there are tens of millions of us smarter than you. I’m not the only one.

  248. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    Africans must be White Supremacists, because it’s Africans who admit that Blacks can’t farm. Talk about everybody being a White Supremacist! :)

    Zimbabwe to hand back land to some white farmers
    The names of six white farmers have been given to central government with requests they be granted security of tenure under new laws safeguarding farms ‘of strategic economic importance’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11737095/Zimbabwe-to-hand-back-land-to-some-white-farmers.html

    Six whites are worth more than sixteen million niggaz.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  249. iffen says:
    @Rogue

    I think the land suitable for commercial agricultural purposes is about 13%.

    So whites only own a disproportionate share of the most valuable land. That explains a lot.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  250. cassandra says:
    @Malla

    Actually it were the British who created successful commercial farms in Palestine which the Israelis took over.

    Many participated in the 20th century, but credit for the original cultivation and export of the (tough-skinned) Jaffa orange goes to the mid 19th century Ottoman Palestinians. The following is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_orange.

    Oranges are native to the region. The Jaffa variety was originally cultivated by indigenous Palestinians, from other species already being grown:

    The ‘Jaffa’ orange was a new variety developed by Palestinian farmers after emerging in the mid-19th century as a mutation on a tree of the ‘Baladi’ variety near the city of Jaffa.

    Palestinians developed large-scale farming, while Europeans participated in the export trade:

    After the Crimean War (1853–56), the most important innovation in local agriculture was the rapid expansion of citrus cultivation.[4] Foremost among the varieties cultivated was the Jaffa (Shamouti) orange, and mention of it being exported to Europe first appears in British consular reports in the 1850s.[1][4] One factor cited in the growth of the export market was the development of steamships in the first half of the 19th century, which enabled the export of oranges to the European markets in days rather than weeks. Another reason cited for the growth of the industry was the relative lack of European control over the cultivation of oranges compared to cotton, formerly a primary commodity crop of Palestine, but outpaced by the Jaffa orange.[7]

    Exports grew from 200,000 oranges in 1845 to 38 million oranges by 1870.[6] The citrus plantations of this time were primarily owned by wealthy Palestinian merchants and notables, rather than small farmers, as the fruits required large capital investments with no yield for several years.[4][8] Fruits carrying the “Jaffa orange” label were first marketed by Sarona, a German Templer colony established in 1871.

    Involvement of Europeans, post-Ottomans, and Jews came later, not necessarily for the better:

    The prosperity of the orange industry brought increased European interest and involvement in the development of ‘Jaffa’. In 1902, a study of the growth of the orange industry by Zionist officials outlined the different Palestinian owners and their primary export markets as England, Turkey, Egypt and Austria-Hungary. While the Palestinian cultivation methods were considered “primitive,” an in-depth study of the financial expenditure involved reveals that they were ultimately more cost-efficient than the Zionist-European enterprises that followed them some two decades later.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  251. Peasant says:
    @Song For the Deaf

    they are counting on the chinese taking over

  252. @Okechukwu

    of course african farming predates white farming by a long shot. and that black people taught whites to farm
    the white here are abusing blacks but do whites really know what they came from..the culture up in the cold waste of europe?

    the white man likes homosexuality..a gift he gave to the rest of us…why?

    whites cannibalized their own,: the dominant white male ate the women when the food ran out. he had a hierarchy of eating..the older women first then others. so that he had a shortage of women for sex so they turned to each other.

    the old human bones found in Europe tell that story..and a lot more.

    when did the white man learn how to build a house with a window?

    look there is so much of an awful nature to tell about the white man why in the hell are the whites here making so much noise, boasting about what they did not know and did not have?

    the way to look at this properly to ease all pain is that the whites lost what they had when the black man walked into Europe on the retreating ice and got caught up there when the ice returned and trapped him. but walking into europe as black he went in with a lot..all her had learned and developed in Africa.

    he could not live like that in europe so he discarded what he knew and developed what he had to, in order to survive. that he survived at all is due to his african ancestry and pedigree. that is how he made it for 15 thousand years plus in the cold

    so what in tarnation are the whites here talking about then?

    most of them dont know their own history,…refuse to accept it is more like it. so where in the hell do they think they came from then?

    and anyway all I have said came from white scholars who did the research and told the world. I had nutten to do with it

    • Replies: @Malla
  253. it is Johns Hopkins university did the blood work to prove that the Jews…ASHKANAZE..ARE ALL WHITE…NOT A SEMITIC DROP OF BLOOD IN THEIR BODIES..THAT THEY CAME FROM THE CAUCASUS BETWEEN THE BLACK AND CASPIAN SEAS..AND HAD ABSOLUTELY NUTTEN TO DO WITH PALESTINE IN ANY WAY AT ALL, SAVE CONVERTING TO JUDAISM

  254. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    They believe in “universal brotherhood,” because Jewsus believed in the same, and came to save the whole universe.

    John 3:16-17 For Jewgod so loved the universe…to save the universe through Jewgod.

    Do you not believe the Jew Testament anymore, attila?

  255. Peasant says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    They work together where whites are atomised. They have a dual moral code which benefits them and harms others. They have worked to weaken outgroup cultural supports while reinforcing thier own. They are not honest about this.

  256. but ultimately scholarship is going to have to connect the dots..to demonstrate the entire biology of the human species to show how we got to where we are now on all levels of existence.

    we need the whole connected up story of humanity..the sooner the better.

    the revolution is taking too long. where the hell is it?

  257. @Anonymous

    that’s silly! that’s that foolish traitor Nanghawa betraying his country.

    where is that going to lead but to further and more extreme bloodshed..this time faster than before.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  258. bj says:

    The Lesson of South Africa—–Dr. William Luther Pierce

  259. @Beefcake the Mighty

    You and Ron settled things, I take it?

    No, not really. I haven’t even had any communication with him in the past months.

    As you can see, I can post comments apparently, but for all I know, that is just an oversight. Or not… I have no idea… I sometimes have to pinch myself when I think about all that. When has the author of an article been banned from the discussion under his own article? And then meanwhile all the obvious professional trolls, shills, and disinfo agents can operate freely. And the author of the article is banned!

    The whole thing is just too nutty, so surely, you can understand my position which is that, for my own sanity, I should keep my participation here down to a bare minimum.

    But, look, anyway, if you want to ask me any questions about this overall topic, then why not sign up on my site and start a discussion on the discussion forum that is set up there? I’m not going to be banned from my own site!

    Or alternatively, start a discussion on ANY topic! Or answer this question here: https://heresycentral.com/community/personal-testimony/what-was-your-own-personal-red-pill-moment/

  260. Okechukwu says:
    @Ben Sampson

    that’s silly! that’s that foolish traitor Nanghawa betraying his country.

    Plus, rhetoric aside, only one white farmer has gotten land back and that was because he was a supporter of the freedom fighters during the liberation struggle.

    First white farmer gets land back under Zimbabwe’s new leader

    Local chief Peter Tandi led efforts to lobby Mnangagwa’s administration to allow Mr Smart and his family to return. “He voluntarily gave up his estates to the community when the land reform programme started. He continued helping us with technical knowledge, equipment and other inputs,” Mr Tandi said.

    “That man supported the guerrillas during the war … He gave us a place to hide from colonial government soldiers,” said Gift Maramba, a war veteran and local Zanu-PF official.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/zimbabwe-white-farmer-land-back-emmerson-mnangagwa-lesbury-robert-mugabe-zanu-pf-a8124786.html

    Only such righteous persons are eligible and they are few and far between. On the other hand, any white supremacist nitwit who goes back to Zimbabwe to get land back is likely to get a bullet to the brain instead.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Malla
  261. @Jonathan Revusky

    Thanks for the invite, Sir!

    But “heresy” central. Moi??? ;)

  262. @Jeff Stryker

    I’m not Jewish and I am proudly white but I believe in objectivity. Jews manage to make money. Why?

    So what?

    Anyway, this may at least partly answer your query.

    Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.
    Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.

    What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

    -Karl Marx, On The Jewish Question, 1844

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

    Not that I agree with him, you understand, since there have been masses of poor Jewish folk as well as rich ones. I think Patton described what he saw of them…

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  263. @Stan d Mute

    Ann Arbor white here, child of Detroit whites.

    In South Africa, you cannot sell the farm and move 40 miles away to Dexter or to GR.

    My parents moved to Ann Arbor in the sixties, for example.

    The only whites stuck completely in Detroit are the Polish-Americans. Southerners moved down South again, where they were from in the first place. Other middle-class whites moved to Ann Arbor or Warren.

    But when you are a Boer born in Africa WTF are you going to go? Many do immigrate of course. But this requires a particular skill-set.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  264. @Malla

    MALLA

    Most Gujarati make their money abroad and what they spend goes into that economy, not the Thar Desert of Gujarat.

    And I don’t here loads of Gujarati complaining that Jews have done them in abroad. They manage to get by without being destroyed by Jews.

    Perhaps some of the whites here will earnestly argue that the Jew is intentionally trying to denigrate the Anglo-Saxon in particular.

    If Jews did go after Gujarati, I suspect they would hold their own better.

  265. @cassandra

    There are two types of Palestinians: Christians and Muslims. The Muslim Palestinians are quadroons/octoroons with average IQ of 84 because of Islamic miscegenation caused by black slavery and first cousin marriage.

    Palestinian Christians have average IQs of 100. They were segregated from the Muslims and did not practice first cousin marriage.

    Most Palestinian Christians have left Palestine. The left-over Muslim Palestinians cannot create a viable economy/country.

  266. @Stan d Mute

    HBD Mitten

    Hey, I’m a low IQ dummy…

    HBD Mitten? even Google didn’t help.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  267. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Just as parasitical as some welfare queen, however, even worse in fact.

    No one’s seen welfare until he’s seen the corporate variety. Same goes for gubbermint employees.

  268. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    Likely to get a bullet to the brain instead? True, worldwide, wherever niggaz live. Because niggaz are so childishly impulsive.

    “Importantly, scholars have noted that mean levels of self-regulation differ across racial categories with Black respondents tending to score higher on measures of impulsivity compared to Asians and Whites.”

    Public Library of Science

    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141954

  269. @Malla

    Well said. A bit windy, but you’re one who gets it. Like Cassandra, Rurik, and a few others here. Now, if we could only get the message out.

  270. @Jeff Stryker

    How many Jews are on welfare?

    Depends on what yer calling welfare. I consider bankster and corporate bankruptcy bailouts welfare, and also special treatment such as this, for example.:

    The United States Congress passed legislation in May 2001 exempting Holocaust survivors and their heirs from federal taxes on compensation and restitution payments received …
    The Claims Conference assisted Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) in drafting the legislation.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=tax_exemptions

    All Holocaust compensation and restitution payments are protected by 1994 federal legislation that excludes them from calculations relating to eligibility for federal benefits. The legislation (h.r. 1873 or public law 103-286) stated that payments made to individuals because of their status as victims of Nazi persecution are to be excluded from income and resources in determining both eligibility for and the amount of benefits or services to be provided under any Federal or federally assisted program which provides benefits or services based on need such as, but not limited to, Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income, food stamps and Federally subsidized Housing programs.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=payments_benefits

    Keep in mind that these things are the tip of the iceberg as far as special treatment goes. Welfare.

  271. STAN

    Why would anyone move to Detroit in this late industrial phase? What for? My grandmother purchased her condo on the Warren/Detroit border in 1986 for $400,000 and it sold for $70,000.

    The only exception to this is Los Angeles, where the Hispanics have phased the blacks out because their own gang violence is more organized and has the support of cartels over the border.

    But Detroit is so unattractive that even Hispanics would not move there. Most people still remaining in Detroit are blacks because they lack the skills or money to leave.

    And who are you going to sell your house too? My brother and I spoke long-distance (I was long out of the US by then) and he told me we were lucky to get 1/5 of what my grandmother paid for the condo.

    Michigan in general is not attracting masses of immigrants or internal migrants. Its a freezing cold place with a poor economy. Why would rich people move there. Why would anyone move there. Most people like myself are gone the day they get their college degree.

    If you were born in Detroit in 1967 that means back when the Mayor was Polish and the city was still functioning.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  272. @Anon

    Ohhh good grief,

    the point is made and understood.

    Ownership requires that all other users do so by permission of the owner, which is pressed by some agreement and some manner of compensation In this case land.

    There is no evidence that the blacks ever gave up their rights —

    And as with patent and copy write — compensation is required as long as the original owners says so.

    Sure in with patents, copywriter,etc trademark, one must renew at some period — that is not the case with the land held by africans.

    An analogy as posited makes the point as indicated by the response and works just fine. Your whine is rejected but the difference is acknowledged and applied —

    The complaint might matter of I in any manner attempted to escape or ignore the renewal extension issues — I don’t. Pay the owner of the land as one pays the person holding the patent, copywriter or trademark —

    No expiration on land holdings — compensation is due to the original holders as it would if they held a patent., copywrite, trademark enforce.

    https://www.renewalsdesk.com/uspto-patent-maintenance-fees/

    Ohhh look even the practice among Europeans.

    http://us-patent.info/news-and-events/news_science_us_patent/patent-renewal-fees-in-europe/

    Matters not twiddle how intelligent the owner —

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rogue
    , @Anon
  273. RVBlake says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I am from northern Michigan. Northwestern and north central Michigan is very pleasant…I go there frequently to see family, and see no signs of despair, people seem to be doing well.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  274. Rogue says:
    @iffen

    The Whites farm the land successfully, both for feeding the country’s population and for exporting the excess to earn foreign exchange.

    As already explained, the vast majority of commercial farms acquired by Blacks in SA have been utter failures – often with all pretenses of farming abandoned after a year or two.

    So it makes sense to leave knowledgeable Whites in charge of the most productive land. But Blacks are free to purchase land just like anybody else in the country. There’s no shortage of Black people with money in the new SA.

    Some commercial farms, however, are not in this 13% of land which I referred to – and very tellingly I’m not hearing about land claims in these areas.

    • Replies: @iffen
  275. @RVBlake

    Southeast Michigan is as far from Marquette as Detroit is from Kentucky.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  276. bj says:

    Jan Lamprecht’s “The Battle of Blood River”

  277. S says:
    @S

    A correction: the book The War Time Journal of a Georgia Girl was published in 1908 rather than 1905.

    Elaborating a bit upon the author whose family was one the ’4000′ which ruled over the US south she elaborates some upon the Anglo-Saxon elite’s rationalization regarding ‘wage slavery’ (ie ‘cheap labor’) so called.

    Self deception rearing its ugly head, just as with chattel slavery and the little regard they gave their own, some forty plus years after the war’s conclusion she is all for this wage slavery. She says that the cheap labor/mass immigration system is only a temporary stage until this system just fades away and people at some magical time in the future are actually paid the full value of labor.

    Also simultaneously when that day comes world government is to appear.

    Here’s one alternative US Civil War scenario most are not likely to have seen.

    My personal view is that when violence became unavoidable in 1861 that the guns, north and south, should have been turned upon those powerful elements of the elites and hangers on of the south involved in chattel slavery. Being of the same ilk, the same goes for the northern elites and hangers on involved in wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’/mass immigration).

    Many of the slave owners from the accounts I’ve read knew that chattel slavery was terribly destructive, but like the heroin addict couldn’t get the monkey off their back. Compensation or not many of them after the slaves were forcibly released from them would of felt …’relieved’. I also think most when confronted by their own in such a way, and given a choice of choosing between their own people and their chattel or wage slaves, would have readily surrendered.

    There might have been a relative few hard core slavers, both chattel and wage, who might have fought on against their own people in defense of their ‘property’ and ‘rights’. Again, being of the same ilk, we might in such a scenario have seen the chattel and wage slave advocates join forces in a war against their own people so that they could practice their slavery.

    In such a situation, that’s a war (probably a short one) someone such as the non-slave holder Robert E Lee could have joined and led with gusto, rather than only somewhat half-heartedly out of personal loyalty when he joined up with the slavery supporting CSA out of loyalty to his native Virginia.

    Slavery, both in its chattel and wage slavery manifestations would truly have been eradicated unlike the faux abolition which took place in 1865.

    The released slaves and now slavery free Euros, each for their own reasons could have had self determination and went their own separate ways.

    Very possibly may then have had to have dealt with an invasion by the British Empire which would not have been at all happy with the US ditching the ‘cheap labor/mass immigration system, a primary source of much of the Empire’s political and economic power to this day.

    One thing at a time.

    ‘The truth of the matter is that the transition from chattel to wage slavery was the next step forward in the evolution of the race, just as the transition from wage slavery to free and independent labor will be the next.’

    ‘And now that we have learned wisdom through suffering; now that we have seen how much more can be accomplished by peaceful coöperation under the safe
    guidance of natural laws, than by wasteful violence, we are prepared to take our part intelligently in the next great forward movement of the race – a movement having for its object not merely a closer union of kindred states, but that grander union dreamed of by the poet, which is to find its consummation in

    “The parliament of man, the federation of the world.”

    I think the below is the more likely reality regarding the results of the wage slavery system (ie cheap labor/mass immigration): it involves the aforementioned US textile factory magnate Abbott Lawrence (of the same family which financed both Lawrence, Mass and Lawrence, KS) and his tour of Ireland. In the 1851 London Times editorial the immigrants and resulting mixed population historically forced upon Ireland (ie the Plantation in the north) are described as being a race of slaves (ie ‘more mixed, more docile,’ and ‘which can submit to a master’.

    The Irish people being preyed upon enmasse as a source of wage slaves for the US to work as so called ‘cheap labor’ in textile plants such as Mr Lawrence’s in Mass are according to the editorial to ‘mix’ and thus be ‘known no more’. According to the editorial it is to be the people of the north of Ireland which it described as being a slave race which are to then take over the whole of Ireland.

    It might be recalled here that according to an article from the same Famine period (1847) which appeared in The Spectator that the Irish called this enmasse predation of their people as wage slaves to the US ‘extermination’ and were shooting members of the British aristocracy in Ireland who were promoting/sponsoring this mass exodus of the Irish people.

    ‘It [the Irish people] will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people.’

    London Times – (September 30, 1851)

    “The prosperity and happiness he [Lawrence] speaks of may some day reign over that beautiful island. It’s fertile soil, its water-power, its minerals, and other materials for the wants and luxuries of man, may one day be developed; but all apearances are against the belief that this will ever happen in the days of the Celt. That tribe will soon fulfill the great law of Providence which seems to enjoin and reward the union of races. It will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people. Its present place will be occupied by the more mixed, more docile, and more serviceable race, which has long borne the yoke of sturdy industry in this island, which can submit to a master and obey the law…”

    There is also this…

    Slavery has correctly been called historically ‘a scourge upon mankind’ with plenty of reason. Slave owners can tend to develop divided loyalties between their slaves and their own own people, the latter already being greatly harmed by this practice.

    How so very easy for slave owners, particularly amongst elites and their hangers on, to have lied to themselves (and their own) when they decided to adopt the wage slavery system (ie cheap labor/mass immigration) and claim to everyone that they have abolished slavery, when in reality they steal far more labor (the systematic theft of a person’s labor being the essence of slavery) this way due to the shear volume of the predation than they ever did before.

    How also so very easy, already somewhat separated from their own people due to chattel slavery, to become even far more separated from their people due to wage slavery (ie ‘cheap labor’ so called).

    Once so thoroughly corrupted due to slavery, historically both chattel and wage, and very separated from their own, it must be quite tempting indeed consciously or somewhat unconsciously to maintain one’s personal wealth and political power by turning these wage slaves against their own people in a divide and conquer, divide and rule scheme as described below. And how much even more tempting and easy to fall into this divide and conquer scheme must it be to alien elites with significant power over a weakened people, of whom they have even less natural connection to.

    The likely end result of this is a power elite in charge whom are in many instances unreformed slavers, have little connection or concern for the people they are supposed to represent, and may well even think ‘the people’ are a nuisance they’d just as rather get rid of or enslave than care about. Meanwhile, the one’s being so governed will be so perpetually divided they might not be able as groups or individually to ever escape.

    If one’s content with that march on.

    Between urban and national: Political mobilization among Mizrahim in Israel’s ‘development towns’ (Cities – February, 2004)

    ‘..the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups; settlement in the ‘frontier’ (periphery); and control over the natives and their land (Stasilius and Yuval-Davis, 1995). These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony..’

    The majority rights link below has on the comments thread on its 78th and 79th entries additional info on Lawrence, Mass.

    https://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/andrews/andrews.html

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.55226263;view=1up;seq=302;skin=mobile

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/20th-november-1847/12/extermination-and-vengeance

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264275103000969

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_death_of_a_multi_racialist/

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  278. Mike52 says:

    Until Peter Beinart dismantles his Jewish ethnostate with his pen, and by extension this criterion applies to the Jewish Atlantic editors as well, I see no moral daylight in which his opinions on ethnic sympathy of others are relevant whatsoever.

  279. @jacques sheete

    Practical need, self-interest.

    This is actually true of the Asians, the Arabs, the Indians, the Italians to a degree and all the other races that have turned the East and West Coasts of the US into centers of power and wealth while the US interior slowly disintegrated into a backwater of whiggers, empty storefronts, heroin patch addicts etc.

    It would be true of blacks and Hispanics as well, except that they have gang tendencies to boot and therefore their own population centers are more crime-ridden.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  280. bj says:

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.” @TuckerCarlson @FoxNews

    7:28 PM – Aug 22, 2018

    The ADL accused POTUS Donald Trump of racism for daring to investigate the majority black government of South Africa’s policy of murder of white South African farm families and the seizure of their property.

    This will be the fate of white people and culture in so called democratic nations where whites become a minority. The Boers are on the front line of a world wide Jewish inspired race war against white DNA and white culture.

    SOUTH AFRICA White Girls Parents & Grand Parents Murdered By Blacks On The Same Day

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  281. bj says:

    White South Africans Take Up Arms — Afrikaners Aim to Counter Gov’t Land Grabs, White Genocide

  282. Clyde says:
    @Stan d Mute

    What did Indians want from white man? I can think of firearms, knives, axes, horses and alcohol. What did they have to trade with? Animal pelts is all I can think of and only northern Indians trapped. Horses could be stolen. Firearms could be captured in a successful battle. You have any other ideas how American Indians got what they wanted from white settlers?

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  283. @Jeff Stryker

    In South Africa, you cannot sell the farm and move 40 miles away to Dexter or to GR.

    My parents moved to Ann Arbor in the sixties, for example.

    And you don’t see the difference?

    Let’s recap shall we?
    A. Your parents lived in a white founded nation, in a white founded State, in a white founded city, and were forced to flee by negroes
    B. White South Africans moved to the negro continent where they were (the smart ones) later forced to flee by the aborigines

    If Detroit had always been Haiti, your comparison would be valid. But as late as the 1950’s Detroit was still overwhelmingly white and called “the Paris of the Midwest.” Negroes who were imported into America in bondage then later invaded the North in a massive show of gratitude for ending their unjust servitude and proceeded to terrorize the descendants of the people who saved them such as your great great (and maybe one more great) grandparents.

    Do you honestly not see the difference? They weren’t white flighted by Chippewas, they were white flighted by Africans. Africans who had no claim whatever and no moral basis for invading and terrorizing the HBD Mitten. South Africans are, on the other hand, being white flighted by aboriginal Africans.

    You want to colonize Africa, either deal with the aborigines or suffer the consequences. They’ve chosen the “consequences” and now they’ll get them good and hard.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Malla
  284. @jacques sheete

    Our Mitten State presents as much or more evidence of HBD and general evidence of the collapse of our Nation than any other. Detriot was the Arsenal of Democracy, the home of American manufacturing, the Paris of the Midwest. Today it’s Haiti. Flint, Pontiac, Saginaw, Muskegon, Grand Rapids, Benton Harbor, these are towns that can’t keep street lights working, pipe leaded water to homes, consistently place in the Top 10 nationally for murder, etc. Meanwhile the legacy of a guy like Henry Ford is a great great grandson (also Firestone’s great great grandson) who hired an international Jew to run the company and married his daughter to a negro. His Foundation, like CS Mott’s, Alfred Sloan’s and many others is used solely to destroy the fabric of our Nation.

    Name a pathology in America and if the HBD Mitten doesn’t rank number one it’s in the top five.

  285. Watching says:
    @Malla

    This agent is adept at mixing the truth with the lie. Some of his rant concerning “the illuminati/NWO” has a ring of truth. Howbeit that it’s no “NEW” world order, it’s as old as the Tower of Babel, when men first colluded to rebel against God. This scheme has been perpetrated throughout the ages, with the intention of reaching fulfillment at the end times, to thwart the plan of God. He states, quite correctly that land is the basis for freedom, yet he would suggest that the indigenous of S. Africa should deny themselves the rights to their own land, to offset the plans of the Illuminati, classic contradiction. And why dupe people into thinking that setting up greenhouses to grow food will save them in the upcoming upheaval, when he knows full well that, having those greenhouses full of food at a time of food crisis, and no ability to defend it will attract the well armed hordes who will certainly kill you for it. But agents do what agents do, and that is to do what he warns you to avoid, and that’s the “deception.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  286. Watching says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Humorous little sissy rant, but easy pickings. Power comes from God, as you Godless heathens will learn. Europeans “discovered Africa”? leave that meth alone, you simple minded moron. It’s humorous how you heathen traverse the world, robbing, raping and pillaging. But when your satanic schemes come to an end, you squeal like little girls, having their first sex. Why not simply accept that wicked schemes don’t endure forever, and call it a day? You will dominate nothing forever, so get that out of your satanic mind, bubba. You simple minded heathens just crack me up, lol.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jeff Stryker
  287. Watching says:
    @Anon

    For whatever reason, and I don’t see it, you think you’re smart. You really believe that European heathens can globe-trot the world, staking claims on whatever lands that the world has. That’s symptomatic of a beastly nature derived from your association with Satan. The so called (fraudulent) government of S. Africa which first entered the fraudulent U.N. has zero legitimacy, which is why it’s allocated to the pages of history. In fact all lands stolen by racist and evil Europeans are illegitimate, and will likewise be remembered only in the pages of history. For some unGodly reason, you heathen think that your evil world extends to perpetuity, which is quite laughable. Save your false facts for your kind, who suck that garbage up. And by the way, pathetic spiritual pervert, I love seeing that anger in the beast, grrrrr.

  288. @Clyde

    Firearms could be captured in a successful battle.

    Since firearms don’t shoot acorns, they also needed a steady supply of lead and gunpowder. Otherwise they’d have fancy clubs eh? Horses can run off on their own and self-propagate, weapons can’t.

    Either there was more trade than you suggest, the quakers and shakers were just giving them arms from pure Yeshuan suicidality, or white foreign (French or English or Spanish/Mexican) actors were arming them to fuck with us. All three seem equally plausible in varying degrees depending on locale of the tribe. We do know beyond any doubt they got the weapons from us or they faced extreme asymmetrical battles with clubs, crude hatchets, spears, and crude bows and arrows against mounted riflemen and cannon.

    Is there any population on the planet other than Yeshuan fanatics that would arm their enemies? Remember too, you can’t just steal the white man’s bang stick, he’s got to teach you how to use it.

  289. Fellow Michigan Native here with a few boners-

    1) Most Detroit whites were the grandchildren/great-grandchildren of Polish or German or Irish-Catholic emigrants (Or Dutch farmers in GR area) and had nothing to do with the oppression of blacks in the South or the sorry conditions that made them move North. When some black howls at an 80 year old Dutch-born GR retiree or Warsaw-born pensioner in Michigan about slavery, it is inapplicable. Most whites in industrial Southeast Michigan immigrated after the Civil War.

    2) The actual Southerners who could be held responsible simply pissed off back to Virginia or South Carolina when the automobile industry went into decline and Detroit/Warren became Haiti. They’d made their money, owned property in the South anyhow and simply returned in time to retire. It was the poor Polish-Americans who were trapped in Detroit and became Boers. THEIR KIDS bolted as soon as they turned 18 and moved on to the Sun Belt, Florida, wherever they could. But Polish retirees who did not sell their houses in time became the Boers of Detroit/Warren/Flint who were raped in their living rooms.

    3) “White Flight” I knew a Polish guy named Flint at CMU named Stans (Stanislovsky). By the time he got to Central on a football scholarship he’d already been shot in a drive-by (For no reason, just heard a black voice and was shot in the back). In college, he got a Polish Catholic girl of 19 pregnant. No abortion. We were sophomores. He returned to Flint, a college dropout and took a job managing a tanning salon. His wife eventually divorced him and moved to California with another man, taking hir kid with her. But Stans was trapped in Flint. His house was worth jack shit. Now he is drinking water as filthy as Three Mile Island and his street is full of prostitutes and crack dealers. He doesn’t have the gas money to leave.

    Now my point is that you are right. The Boers should have seen the writing on the wall, sold their property and left SA. Or, 400 years ago, they should have known as a Dutch colony that the day would come when things went the way of Haiti. But many people are too poor, too busy, too young, too uneducated.

    • Replies: @Malla
  290. @Stan d Mute

    GRAND RAPIDS?

    That was still Dutch when I was in Michigan in the nineties. Good Lord, has that been transformed into a Section 8 crack house as well?

    The sad thing too is that it is very easy for guys my age or out of college to simply pack their things and move, but when you are a retiree it is more difficult. Especially if your house is no longer worth anything and you could not give it away.

    The other problem with HBD is Hood Rats are an idiocracy on steroids. They start having kids at 15, because they reach physical maturity faster, and end up with 5 kids conceived on crack cocaine binge.

    Thankfully my own kids are half-Asian. So someday when the US looks like Brazil and Mulatto police are battling it out with the “Pardo” Mestizo/African 8 year old street criminals in Favelas, Asia will be the only developed part of the world left.

    Though I suppose the 1% will take their money to Australia or Tokyo or NZ and literally enrich those countries while the pleasant tulip fields of GR end up filled with junk and stripped copper wire and biohazards…………

  291. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Pay no attention to EliteCommInc. He knows nothing about what he purports to write. He doesn’t recognise that Patents expire in a period about as long as it takes to lose title to land by adverse possession. And he can’t even spell Copyright correctly.

  292. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Your premise is wrong too. There was plenty of land in Southern Africa for all the indigenous and immigrating people’s Bantu and Afrikaaner to farm and feed themselves without anyone having to steal anyone’s farm. Even in 1900 there were only about 1.5 million people whereas there are now more than 55 million mostly descendants of the 1900 generation. It was only the introduction of modern notions of law and land ownership (OK the African premoderns didn’t even have the legal framework of the Romans) that allowed commercial farming to the great gain of the economy and employment of the ever multiplying Bantu.

  293. @S

    Slavery is as old as the world:
    Solomons Katz, ‘The Jews in the Visigothic and Frankish Kingdoms of Spain and Gaul’, Cambridge 1937
    These kingdoms fell shortly after 700 CE.

    • Replies: @S
  294. Malla says:
    @S

    Thank you, that was very informative. So much for the North’s “moral superiority” over the South.

    • Replies: @S
  295. @Ben Sampson

    Capitalism again not understood.
    Robinson Crusoë was a capitalist, he chose between consumption and investment, when he decided to make a net for fishing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jacques sheete
  296. @bike-anarkist

    So when is America going to hand back all the land they ‘stole’ from the native Indians!

  297. hotrod31 says:

    Ilana Mercer fails to acknowledge even the most basic of truths, re:

    Most of the best resource rich land and the most fertile farmland was stolen from the resident Africans occupying that land. It is a matter of historical record. No amount of obfuscation can change or alter the facts.

    In life, we generally see only what we are looking for … and this writer certainly presents a pretty jaundiced and myopic version of the reality. Her opening statement sets the tone for the quite obviously distorted and contorted opinions which follow. How on earth will anyone try to resolve such complex issues when starting out with distorted opinions and in some cases blatant LIES?

    To suggest that “He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner” imputes that the original DEI Company invaders/settlers somehow had conjured up written ‘title’ for the stolen lands. For heaven’s sake, perhaps the writer needs some sort of optical operation … because from what she’s written, it appears that her ocular nerves appear to be connected to her anal tract. This might account for her pithy, shitty outlook.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @jacques sheete
  298. Them Guys says:
    @bj

    Negroes and Jews have much in common. Jews are the original “Whiggers”. And whenever an article like this one on African antiwhite and land grabs etc. appears here at UNZ, or an article that shows factual truths about Jews appears here…..The very same results happen.

    Those same results are basically to the effect of seeing Tons of either Black Negroes, or Jews, or Both come out of the woodwork, and out from the african or Detroit Jungles, and begin a combo of attack mode against Whites. And they also post up more and more utter nonsense they heard or learned of, via kommie Jewish lefty professors in some college class of African studies. African Lezbo Underwater Basket Weaving Tech 101….Then come here to parrot it all with yet more wild claims of how, European Whiteys need thank savage african cannibals and spear chucker jungle bunnys for providing euro whiteys with every bit of info and knowledge of how to build a society, and a Civilized society/nation. And over all Thank negroes for teaching euro whiteys most all they ever learned of which has led to Whitey being who invented 97% or more of most everything known of.

    Yet never do these brain trust black negroes seem to provide any valid answer as to…Just why did african savage cannibals and jungle bunny spear chuckers, leave africa to go teach european whites all the whites ever learned and know of. And then went back to african jungle life, with a massive and total Loss of all that prior knowledge and famous inbred jungle wisdom, so to return backwards a few thousand years due to that great mass loss of wisdoms and knowledges eh.

    About the only answer we get is always some type Blame Whiteys complaint. And also, a Blame Whites because them whiteys Stole it all away from Po Po little savage jungle bunnys. And now all them blacks was forced to return to savage animalistic jungle lifestyles again.

    Ironic how it just affects blacks that way no? Meanwhile every other race or nation of people typically have retained their knowledge base and proceded to Improve it, and create more and better inventions. Such as the massive path of automobiles in just the past 75 or so years time frame eh. From Fords Model-T or A, to todays vehicles that far surpass those older cars in too many ways to list here. Yet when the issue is Blacks & African Blacks, somehow either Whitey Stole all those blacks used to know or have, or the blacks “Forgot” all that mass of prior info, wisdom, knowledge, etc.

    Sorry Negroes, but I do not buy that answer..Whitey never stole what blacks never had. And its highly likely negroes never will have it, unless They Steal it from Whites…Which Is the main and usual method used by negroes in general to, get ahead so to speak. Either outright thefts or by a welfare type, systematic generation after generation Rip-Off of Whitey taxpayers. Plus endless repetitive taxpayer funded, Ghetto dwellings being Rehabed and Fixed again and again due to constant darkie savage riots and lootings, which always end in half the city burned to ground.

    Its probably been, since LBJ’s Great society scams, up until todays era, a grand total of $20-25 TRILLION Spent to “Raise Up Colored folks from their Boot Straps” and “Equalize” every Low 70-IQ Ghetto monkey savage no matter what it costs!…..ALL a complete, total, FAILURE.

    $25-Trillion and 55 Years Later, and most African Negroes remain as the worlds most useless and worthless race to ever exist, bar none.

    Whiteys need do class action lawsuits and demand full rebates for all that wasted cash eh. Plus Interest, and a solid guarantee that USA Blacks will Exit back to Wakanda Africa and begin a mass search across african lands to locate all that Lost wisdom, which african cannibals used to build Floating Cities!….Complete with Central Air too! and a six car garage to hold all those Airplane Cars so like the TV cartoon Jetsons family with Flying Cars and Floating Homes and Factories!

    Wakanda….Jez likes I dreamed it. Den da ebil white crackahs done Stole it All! no more floating homes and no mo flyin autos….Just back to home made sharp stick spears good for One time use. But at least Africans won’t never run out of enough nearby neighbor’s to Eat, thank to each female chimp produces 12-20 Chillins. Ain’t No darkies gonna starve with so much potential cannibal din din avail and close by…..Fire up that Floating Gas Grill My Granpappy Tyroneus invented, and cooks us up some free eats from todays gang wars with Mah Neighbor kinfolk…..Wait! Looks like Whiteys done stolen Mah Propane tank fo dat grill cooker Granpappy invented. And yet another Black has Lost his, MoJo. Or maybe whitey stole that too, eh?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  299. RVBlake says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Yes, I fully agree. I would avoid Southeastern MI like the plague. The small town in which I was raised, Brighton, in the 50s, is now in metropolitan Detroit. I remember forests and wheat fields. The UP is beautiful and forested, but economically questionable. I was referring to the Lower Peninsula, area around Traverse City and Petoskey. Cheers

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Them Guys
  300. Anonymous[997] • Disclaimer says:
    @Watching

    Of course, God (a.k.a. Gott, Gotin, Wotan, Woden, Odin, etc.) is a Teutonic name that Jehovah hates.

    But ye who forsake Jehovah, who forget my holy mountain, who prepare a table for God. -Isaiah 65:11

    And God’s holy Nordic name is on your lips every Woden’s Day (between Teu’s Day and Thor’s Day) so Jehovah hates you even more, Exodus 20:3 and all. I trust you don’t worship the deity in either Jew Testament.

    • Replies: @Watching
  301. Watching says:
    @Okechukwu

    Haha, do you really think those half-wit racists understand logic? Get paper and crayons and draw them a picture, and they may (or not) get it.

  302. Watching says:

    @hotrod31

    “To suggest that “He who believes he has a right to another man’s property ought to produce proof that he is its rightful owner” imputes that the original DEI Company invaders/settlers somehow had conjured up written ‘title’ for the stolen lands. For heaven’s sake, perhaps the writer needs some sort of optical operation … because from what she’s written, it appears that her ocular nerves appear to be connected to her anal tract. This might account for her pithy, shitty outlook.”

    This is very well said and the pinnacle of truth.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  303. Anonymous[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Soviet Communists are the ultimate Capitalists by your book, with all their various capital investments, and paucity of consumption goods. You are a truly amazing philosophër.

  304. @Jeff Stryker

    Perhaps some of the whites here will earnestly argue that the Jew is intentionally trying to denigrate the Anglo-Saxon in particular.

    Forget about “The Jew.”

    It’s the Zio-Commies who call themselves Jews and their dupes, both goy and non-goy, who’ve been, and continue to be, the major source of headaches of the past century+.

    You know what a red herring is? Yammering about “Jews” is just plain brain dead.

  305. @Jonathan Revusky

    Jonathan, I went to the website and read a couple of articles, all excellent, but I have an aversion to “registering” with passwords and all that sort of G-damned monkey business.

    Anyway, I thought your articles there excellent, but please quit calling mafia propaganda, “mainstream media.” What you’re referring to is mass media and it represents the views of our masters; there is not a ^%$&*^ thing mainstream about it.

    A couple of comments about this overall fine article, Faith, Reason, Fanaticism, and the Deeper Meaning of “The Donald”.

    Still, what is striking is how most people do not have an AWANPM [epiphany] when, by all rights, they should.

    Fighting Nazis in 1942 or 1943 on a battlefield or joining the French Resistance required real courage.

    Faith, Reason, Fanaticism, and the Deeper Meaning of “The Donald”

    https://heresycentral.com/revusky/faith-reason-fanaticism/

    I’m constantly amazed that so many do not have that moment as well. Also, the comment about Nazis is way off. In the first place, it took very little courage to join the fighting against them because everyone was doing it. It was fashionable. You can bet your a$$ that many young men were eager to go and prove what “heroes” they were. What took real courage would have been to stand up to the Commies or to refuse to fight the Nazis.

    In the second place comments like that reveal the lingering effects of Red propaganda…

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  306. @Ben Sampson

    I dont know but I think Jesus was killed for being some kind of sorcerer.

    More likely he was killed for driving the money changers out of the temple and messing with the Pharisees, who were always trying to bait the dude.

    The Christ story is a nearly perfect metaphor regarding what typically goes on in the world, i.e., speak the truth and get crucified. Spread bullshit and grow rich. Kill the messenger, etc.

  307. @Jeff Stryker

    Yer preaching to the choir. Power and wealth? I’m happy that you see that power and wealth come at a cost.

    …while the US interior slowly disintegrated into a backwater of whiggers, empty storefronts, heroin patch addicts etc.

    Well it’s not only the interior. Look at NYC, Baltimore, DC, Miami, New Orleans, LA, SF too. They all qualify as backwaters in many ways as well.

  308. @RVBlake

    Brighton and Plymouth blended into the urban stretch between Detroit and Ann Arbor but when I was young (Born 1974) they were still pleasant small cities.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  309. @Stan d Mute

    Meanwhile the legacy of a guy like Henry Ford is a great great grandson (also Firestone’s great great grandson) who hired an international Jew to run the company and married his daughter to a negro. His Foundation, like CS Mott’s, Alfred Sloan’s and many others is used solely to destroy the fabric of our Nation.

    Man, doesn’t stuff like that make yer blood boil?

    I bet the “hiring” you mentioned was done under duress; either do that or get obliterated.

    The fabric of the nation is destroyed, yet people yap and about what’s gong on in SA as if they know something about it and don’t see that SA is being taken down in ways similar to what happened in the US and Europe.

    Much easier to blame the blacks and Muslims, etc., than to admit that mobsters run the world.

  310. @Watching

    Arabs and Indonesians were in East Africa long before whites.

    • Replies: @Watching
  311. @S

    Nice job there.

    “But in reality the abolition of serfdom and of slavery was only the abolition of an obsolete form of slavery that had become unnecessary, and the substitution for it of a firmer form of slavery and one that holds a greater number of people in bondage.”

    - Leo Tolstoy

    A few typos, but otherwise a fine summary: Tolstoy, Slavery of Our Times, Chap 8, 11 July, 1900 http://ebooks.gutenberg.us/WorldeBookLibrary.com/slaverytol.htm#1_0_7

    But hey, tax, wage and debt slaves are “free!”

    • Replies: @S
  312. @S

    This really gets to me.

    …now using other people’s money to do so in the form of public welfare expenditures.

    And the drooling classes blame the “welfare queens” for that while typically favoring corporations because “they provide jobs.” The other thing that torques me is that corporations get special favors from the government and not only are the major welfare queens, but they actually destroy jobs (I’m talking their net effect) and much else that they touch with the blessing and support from government which does it all with other people’s money.

    • Replies: @S
  313. @iffen

    Apparently it is in South Africa.

    Key word is “apparently.”

    As far as the ruling classes are concerned, I doubt it’s as much of a racial question as it is a class, or economic one.

    As for the drooling classes, one can count on thm to take the bait and believe it’s racial and or religious.

    Distract, then divide, then control.

  314. Rogue says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    If you are talking about South Africa, the Black (Bantu) population are not the original indigenous people. Originally, they lived further north in Africa. Specifically, they and the Whites both dispossessed the Khoisan people (more commonly referred to in the past as Hottentots and Bushmen) of land.

    There is evidence to show that the the Khoisan did resist the Black invaders – which is the natural behaviour of all peoples throughout history (barring the modern West).

    A great deal of the land owned by Whites was purchased from Black tribal chiefs in previous centuries – not simply stolen.

    But the main point is this: when the White government entered into negotiations with Black liberation groups in the early 90′s, any hint back then of expropriation of land without compensation would have killed of negotiations completely. Mandela himself said that the Blacks were not negotiating from a position of strength.

    After all, the Black military struggle against the Apartheid regime was a feeble affair – it was primarily international sanctions by the West and the recalling of foreign loans that made it impractical to continue the status quo.

    The current ANC government of SA is breathtakingly corrupt and incompetent. You should do some research on that to better inform yourself.

  315. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You really are unbelievably dumb. Sure patents can be “renewed” because that is because public interest policy is that they should expire early IF NO ONE IS MAKING GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY (sound like unused land?). Even if renewed they only last for, at most, 20 years in total. We see you can’t even spell Copyright but do try spelling in Google “How long do patents last?”.

    • Replies: @EliteCoimmInc.
  316. @Rurik

    Bravo, Sir, for the hard, cruel, ugly truth of their evils. One day, the truth will be once more acknowledged as clear history – to the undying disgrace of the fifth columnist Jews, Black thugs and cut-throats, and White race-traitors whose actions are designed to destroy us all.

    But I have every firm belief they themselves will not be around, or even see it coming, as, in the end, they will end their worthless nation-wrecking days hanging from lampposts. I can only hope and pray I will be there to see it.

    • Agree: Them Guys
  317. @Jeff Stryker

    …I am proudly white but I believe in objectivity.

    You believe in “objectivity” yet yer “proudly” [ a member of something you were born into and had no control over], or do you mean that whites are not normally objective, or what?

    Please examine your original statement objectively and let me know what you come up with.

  318. S says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yes, this ‘scourge upon mankind’ slavery is very old.

    One would have thought that after observing the results of the Spartacus slave revolt (ca 70 BC) where Rome came close enough to having the core of both its republic and empire gutted by a marauding slave army on the Italian peninsula, that all Europe, and much the rest of the world besides watching on the sidelines, would once and for all have seen the utter folly in importing slaves (both chattel and wage) into your country.

    But, alas!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus

  319. Rogue says:
    @hotrod31

    In reply to your pithy, shitty comment, let me simply ask how is the “theft” of land in South Africa in previous centuries any different to the theft of land in North America, South America, Australasia or Israel ? Care to explain?

    Apart from which, Black South Africans are not the original indigenous people of SA, and there is good evidence to show that they dispossessed the original Khoisan inhabitants in many instances – and that the Khoisan people resisted this.

    A great deal of land was acquired by Whites in previous centuries via negotiations with tribal chiefs. Of course, not all land was acquired this way – “the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must” – but that is hardly unique to South Africa.

    The new SA was a negotiated settlement where respect for both law and property rights were intrinsic for a successful outcome. The Blacks were not negotiating from a position of strength, as Mandela himself acknowledged.

    The current Black (ANC) government of SA is thoroughly corrupt and incompetent. Their thievery knows no bounds. That’s the reality, and not a jaundiced and myopic version of it.

  320. Soviet Communists are the ultimate Capitalists by your book…

    That must be a pretty good book because, in practice, there’s really very little difference between the two although your owners want you to think so.

    One of the great frauds of “Commie-nizm,” is that it was invented to liberate the masses from the clutches of “capitalism.” If you believe that, then the u̶s̶e̶r̶e̶r̶s̶, er, “capitalists, got you where they want you.

    Now, go read “Animal Farm” and you may start with the last sentence.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    George Orwell, “Animal Farm,” November 1943-February 1944

  321. @jilles dykstra

    Capitalism again not understood.

    Here’s proof.:

    Robinson Crusoë was a capitalist, he chose between consumption and investment, when he decided to make a net for fishing.

    PS: Is there a difference between capitalism as a theory and capitalism as practiced in the real world?
    Is gangster capitalism just a theory of envious malcontents? Did Robinson Crusoe hold a gun to someone’s head and force him to make the net?

  322. Clyde says:
    @Them Guys

    Great post! Saves me from saying roughly the same. I will say that white man’s invention of refrigeration for foods, antibiotics, superior natal and birth care, modern sanitation…When blacks and other third worlders get these four their population can increase like never before. And in the case of Africa threaten to flood Europe with their surplus, unemployed males of prime reproductive age.

    Let us also add oil and all it’s byproducts. How about propane and natural gas? Being able to cook with these instead of firewood and charcoal makes women’s lives so much easier. Dittos of course for a having a refrigerator in the house.

    White man invented all the above. Though lets admit that Asian nations are their prime manufacturers these days due to low cost labor and no environmental laws.
    You go to large Asian cities in the third world (such as in Thailand Philippines, India), they are burning up gasoline like there is no tomorrow. Though it is spent in the form of motorcycles, motor scooters, pedicabs and small automobiles. They are very creative when it comes to welding a motorcycle to a steel body that can carry 2-3 passengers.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Them Guys
  323. Rogue says:
    @Watching

    This is very well said and the pinnacle of truth.

    No it isn’t. See my reply to Hotrod31.

    The DEI (Dutch East India company) had minimal dealings with Blacks. They mostly interacted with those who were actual locals – that is to say the original indigenous people of southern Africa, the Khoisan. By the time there was any major interaction between Whites and Blacks (Bantus) in what is today SA, the DEI company was history, as the British took over the Cape Colony in the early 19th century.

    The Khoisan were dispossessed by both White settlers from Europe and Bantu migration from central Africa.

    Blacks dispossessed the Khoisan of land. Certain Black tribes also dispossessed each other.

    The Coloureds of SA today are the closest ethnicity within the country to Khoi blood still existing. I don’t think the Blacks have much interest in their aspirations – and probably most Coloureds don’t support the ruling party for that very reason.

    Indeed, a great irony was the Western Cape remaining in the hands of the (formerly all-White
    governing) National party after the all-race elections in 1994 – even though it was the Coloureds, and not the Blacks, most ripped off by Apartheid.

  324. S says:
    @jacques sheete

    Thanks for the interesting post. Tolstoy had some real insight into what was going on.

    Chattel slavery and its trade was not abolished but instead was monetized with the 19th century introduction to the world by the US and UK of the cheap labor/mass immigration system.

    The Big Lie, the lie of the millenium, was the 19th century ‘abolition’ of slavery.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  325. Malla says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Do you honestly not see the difference? They weren’t white flighted by Chippewas, they were white flighted by Africans. Africans who had no claim whatever and no moral basis for invading and terrorizing the HBD Mitten.

    You should check out E. Micheal Jones on destruction of American cities where blacks were used as weapons to destroy White Catholic neighborhoods (Irish, Polish, German, Italian etc…) by the tribe members. Then the tribe destroyed the blacks via welfare, rap music etc….

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  326. @Jeff Stryker

    Hey Cuz, the Mexican Sonora cartel moved next door and they are growing coca…sizzled dem boulders (Crack rock cocaine) blooodd…

    A few comments back you asked,

    Why are Jews so rich?

    You may want to investigate who/what gangsters profit from the narcotics trades. Some folks position themselves to profit by employing wage slaves who, when they burn themselves out, provide even more profits.

    You may also want to investigate who profited from the Opium Wars and you do know what they were about, no? Hint: Both goyim and non-goyim profited but now you have a head start regarding how some got their wealth.

    BTW, few people know about one of FDR’s grandfathers (Warren Delano II) who made a fortune shipping opium to China and another from supplying the Union army with narcotics during Lincoln’s War.

    • Replies: @Malla
  327. @Jeff Stryker

    Perhaps some of the whites here will earnestly argue that the Jew is intentionally trying to denigrate the Anglo-Saxon in particular.

    “Denigrate”.. ? Really ? God forbid that Whites should imagine things.

    “The White race is the cancer of the earth. Sooner or later it simply has to go” – Barbara Lerner Spectre, anti-White racist Jew “sociologist”, who runs an anti-White racist Jewish affairs Institute in Sweden entirely at Swedish tax-payer’s expense.

  328. @hotrod31

    How on earth will anyone try to resolve such complex issues when starting out with distorted opinions and in some cases blatant LIES?

    I highly doubt that it has anything to do with resolving issues. I see it as a pretty puerile (even though she’s probably a girl) attempt to further complicate the issues so her handlers can profit by appearing to bring order from the chaos.

    This one’s a sewer stirrer for sure.

  329. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The Dutch had their own republics and were happy with it. it were the Brits who forced them to become part of a larger Union of South Africa. Most Afrikaner nationalists want back those republics and leave the blacks and Indians and Cape Malays and Anglos and Coloureds alone.

  330. Malla says:
    @jacques sheete

    You may also want to investigate who profited from the Opium Wars and you do know what they were about, no? Hint: Both goyim and non-goyim profited but now you have a head start regarding how some got their wealth.

    A lot of Indians made money out of it too. Indeed most of the big Indian corporate houses like the TATAs were all involved and made their fortunes by drugging China..

  331. @Them Guys

    Its probably been, since LBJ’s Great society scams, up until todays era, a grand total of $20-25 TRILLION Spent to “Raise Up Colored folks from their Boot Straps” and “Equalize” every Low 70-IQ Ghetto monkey savage no matter what it costs!…..ALL a complete, total, FAILURE.

    Not a failure at all from the point of view of our masters.

    Here are a few examples of what it’s all about, and why it can be regarded as a huge success:

    1. Guess who eventually winds up with that money which, in any case, is peanuts compared to government employees’ wages and bennies, corporate subsidies and bailouts, and expenditures on the MIC, foreign bribes, etc.

    2. All that cash translates into votes for dirt balls, who then make laws to benefit whom?

    3. It causes justified resentment of the productive classes, and further divides society.

    3a. It is very obviously very highly corrosive to society. People who are bent on destroying society
    prefer that. Ask yourself who has long openly advocated for permanent revolution (
    destruction of society).

    4. It creates an underclass of dependent people who simply cannot survive in any reasonable manner without handouts. Their existence is entirely analogous to that of domestic animals from dogs to chickens to cattle, and their behavior can be easily predicted, manipulated and profited by.

    5. It provides a “humanitarian” pretext for the “need” for government and the resulting extortion (taxes).

    BTW, speaking of LBJ and his scams, he was a butt boy for whom? And please note that the scumball LBJ was preceded by Wilson and FDR to name two of the worst.

    • Agree: Them Guys
  332. @Malla

    blacks were used as weapons to destroy White Catholic neighborhoods (Irish, Polish, German, Italian etc…) by the tribe members.

    Here in Detriot that Tribe scheme seems to have failed spectacularly since the Tribe itself was Jew-flighted out of multiple successive neighborhoods by the negroes. They even lost a world class golf club!

    https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2018/03/detroit_plans_120-acre_park_on.html

  333. Talia says:

    Game reserve land was the 1st taken and should be taken. Very large agri-farms could be kept producing while the deed goes to trust and some profit re-purposed. No need to take smaller agri-farms even though many inherited land their forefathers stole.

    The problem with redistribution is (1) does the government have a workable plan (2) have people being trained to farm and (3) will they be the next kill target by the covetous mob.

  334. Hrw-500 says:

    I saw one more video about the truth on the ANC along with threads on Survivalist board about who was in South Africa first.

    https://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=898568

    Btw, am I the only one who miss Mike Smith’s political commentary blog? One guy attempted to repost some of his old blog post but nothing recent. https://mikesmithpoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2017/10/carrying-on-mikes-work.html
    and here the more recent archived copy on the Wayback Machine and Archive.is.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @JoeFour
  335. Okechukwu says:
    @Them Guys

    This is the most delusional, most psychopathic drivel I’ve read in a long time. I wonder how people like you, who seem to have half their brains missing, are able to function in the modern world.

    Does someone take care of you?

    • Replies: @Erebus
  336. Malla says:
    @Ben Sampson

    the way to look at this properly to ease all pain is that the whites lost what they had when the black man walked into Europe on the retreating ice and got caught up there when the ice returned and trapped him. but walking into europe as black he went in with a lot..all her had learned and developed in Africa.

    he could not live like that in europe so he discarded what he knew and developed what he had to, in order to survive. that he survived at all is due to his african ancestry and pedigree. that is how he made it for 15 thousand years plus in the cold

    Not true

    You are so very wrong. Assuming the Out of Africa theory is true (ASSUMING), those early modern humans were not like today’s black Negroid people. Black Negroid people did not even exist when those early humans left Africa.This belief that Africa is a black only continent is wrong as hell. There were Caucasians in North Africa before Negroid blacks even existed. Hell they found Caucasian European skulls in Southen Africa, the Hofmeyr Skull!!! Even during this period we get no Negroid skulls yet.
    The Manot skull, one of the first human skulls found in the Middle East is already similar to European skulls.
    Indeed black Negroids have genes which is not found in other humans but the blacks got it from archaic primitive humanoids before modern humans even left Africa. In other words, these humans who left Africa did not carry this gene which blacks got 150,000 years ago!!! How is that possible if blacks (who did not look like today’s blacks but are the ancestors of Negroid blacks) are the ancestors of the population who left Africa. This population which left Africa was a distinct population from black Negroid and may already have looked European or at least Caucasiod.
    Negroids have greater genetic diversity because they have absorbed genes from more primitive humanoids. In other words, the population which left Africa was a population which had nothing to do with the ancestors of black negroids (who had not yet evolved/ devolved into Negroids by then).

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  337. Malla says:
    @Hrw-500

    Thanks!!. This very much matches what was written in Douglas Reed’s books. These so called ‘resistance’ movements are all directed and supported from outside. This is the exact same thing which happened with the Indian National Congress during so called Indian “Independence Struggle” but I will not bore you more on that.

    • Replies: @S
  338. Malla says:
    @Watching

    It is called NWO even by guys like Kissinger and George Soros. New World Order is when everything will fall in place for them, finalisation of their plans. Anyways you are right, this is as old as Babylon.

    the indigenous of S. Africa should deny themselves the rights to their own land

    They are not the indigenous and it is not their land.

    • Replies: @Watching
  339. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    You fail to mention that this good White man who helped the resistance was driven away from his land by your hero Mugabe. What kind of people are they? this is how they thank their friends? by driving them sway from their lands?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  340. S says:
    @jacques sheete

    Great points.

    People in general don’t understand what the slave dealers (ie powerful elements of the elites of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish peoples and their respective hangers on) in the US and UK did when they monetized chattel slavery and its trade in the 19th century with the introduction of the cheap labor/mass immigration system to the world.

    No doubt, self deception (at best) played a great role in this.

    As unpleasant as it is one has to put themselves a bit into the minds of both the slave dealer and their slave purchasing customer to understand what took place.

    With chattel slavery, the dealer makes money in all sorts of ways he could profit from in regards to slave dealing and its support infrastructure…ships have to be built, insurance provided, commissions paid for locating sources and arranging the purchases, loans (with interest) made to finance other’s slave dealer’s slave acquiring voyages, and of course the ‘markup’ for the price of the slave he is now reselling after having purchased the same.

    With wage slavery (‘cheap labor’ so called) and its requisite ‘mass immigration’ the former would be slave dealer still profits from ships built, insurance provided, commissions paid for locating sources of ‘cheap labor’ and arranging transport, but now much more so due to the shear volume of it, ie 50,000 chattel slaves transported yearly at the heighth of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade in the late 18th century verses the often many hundreds of thousands of ‘cheap laborers’ (so called) transported yearly historically, and now millions of wage slaves (ie ‘immigrants’) transported annually today.

    And the chattel slave purchaser. Within the Anglosphere and going back to circa 1620, driven by self centered and short sighted financial interest (known in the vernacular as greed) certain of the Anglo-Saxon elite didn’t want to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor to employ their Anglo-Saxon own, but thought by purchasing chattel slaves from a passing Dutch slaver they believed they could pay substantially less than this prevailing rate.

    Only a concern here first and foremost for their money, and then themselves as individuals, none for their own people (quite often forgotten in all this) nor for the chattel slave.

    This slave purchasing/employing quickly went ‘viral’ amongst other of these elites and hangers on whom would also purchase slaves so that they could ‘be competitive’. Again, no concern for the bulk of their own nor the chattel slaves. Just their money. Some almost 250 years later there were now four million chattel slaves in the south, in some places they outnumbered the Anglo-Saxon population (ie in 1860 South Carolina 55% African slave to 45% Anglo-Saxon).

    With the former would be slave purchaser/owner, this person still driven by greed whom hires one of the ‘mass immigrants’ (legal or not) provided to him or her by the former would be slave dealers (ie promoters of mass immigration), still gets their primary ‘hit’ of stolen/unpaid labor far below what was or would of been the prevailing local rate of labor typically paid to one of their own were the ‘immigration’ not taking place.

    Just as with chattel slavery this person also gets a secondary ‘hit’ of stolen/unpaid labor for other business ventures they might have due to the over all depressive effect upon wages of the ‘mass immigration’. Paralleling this in the US south there were reports of virtual economic depression in the countryside surrounding the plantations amongst typically the planter’s own people as the slaves either on the plantation or being ‘leased’ out were doing a great deal of the available work.

    It is no doubt true that previously this person got a larger hypothetical 80-90% percent ‘hit’ of stolen labor with the chattel slave (there being some real ‘overhead’ expenses, ie clothing, food, shelter, etc) as opposed to wage slavery, however, with the latter it is still quite substantial, or they wouldn’t bother with it.

    In California, when literally forced by the general public to investigate the matter in the 1870′s, the legislature there determined the Chinese being imported by diktat into the state were often being paid upwards of 70% (ie two thirds) below whatever the prevailing local rate of labor was where they were being sent to.

    And when one of these would be former slave purchasers gets really ambitious, rather than pay their own the prevailing local rate of labor, they will let their own people go and will move their entire manufacturing plant to where the slaves are in China, ‘the One’ China is nicknamed by these persons, paying the obscene 10 cents/1 dollar an hour instead of the 20-25$ dollars the labor is in reality worth. (With China and its billion plus population, wage slavery beats by far chattel slavery in outright stolen labor.)

    There are other benefits with wage slavery (ie cheap labor) as well for the former would be slave owner. With chattel slavery by law the slave owner could not simply abandon them on the street once they became old or sick, they had to be taken care of or sold to someone who would.

    With the wage slave they can be let go at will to become a public charge in many instances if they become old and infirm. As much of the labor is being stolen directly from the wage slave’s pay (hence the term ‘wage slavery’ as opposed to physically owned ‘chattel slavery’) and they aren’t actually making enough to live on (there being a reason for prevailing ‘living’ wages) rather as before with chattel slavery the owner having to pay to house, feed, and clothe the slave, with wage slavery these have all been ‘outsourced’ to the general public to pay for in food, clothing, and housing ‘subsidies’.

    So, now with this very efficient wage slavery (ie cheap labor/mass immigration), this ‘just in time slavery’ for the former slave owner, both the former would be slave dealers and slave owners substantially get all they want as before, if not much more so, as they did with the cumbersome and antiquated chattel slavery.

    Much of the expense and hassle for the former would be slave owner such as food, water, education, and shelter for their wage slaves has now been ‘outsourced’ (ie dumped upon) to the general public to pay for in the form of greatly increased public taxes.

    Just as before with chattel slavery, sometimes both the former slave dealer and owner feel quite badly about the plight of their wage slaves and what it is that they have done, as they ought to (their own people not receiving much if any sympathy from them in this), not enough mind you to stop the practice of the systematic theft of another’s labor, the essence of slavery, which they ought to do, but enough to ‘dote’ upon their slaves, often ostentatiously in front of their slave dealing/owning associates so at the least to feel a little bit better about themselves in their own eyes, if not in the eyes of the general public.

    This ‘doting’ too upon their wage slaves, alas, has now been outsourced to the general public in the form of greatly increased charity costs, ie churches throwing Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter parties, etc, besides providing extra clothing and food at times.

    Even the immediate genocidal concerns, due to murderous violence or otherwise from the slaves living in close proximity to the slave owner’s families, that too with wage slavery has been outsourced to the general public to contend with, the wage slaves now living amongst them, ie section 8 housing, etc

    To sum it up with wage slavery, whilst still greatly profiting from either providing stolen labor or consuming the stolen labor, most if not all of the negatives (ie costs and hassle) that both the slave dealers and owners had had to contend with previously with chattel slavery are now with wage slavery safely outsourced (ie dumped upon) for the non chattel or wage slave exploiting general public to deal with.

    What’s not to love with this arrangement!!??

    Win, win for the both the former would be slave owner and dealer. They even both with wage slavery get to play act like they are the ‘good guys’ now whereas in reality they are every bit as rotten as before if not more so.

    There’s no free lunch with slavery, either chattel or slave, as it is genocidal across the board, and will likely in time catch up with both the former would be slave owner and dealer.

    The non slavery participating general public, as with most peoples across the world, tends to be destroyed with this arrangement, and hence the need bu the powers that be for the cult ideology of multi-culturalism to be promoted and for them to believe in.

    Broadly in this it would be as if someone with skin cancer (a society with chattel slavery and its trade) observed one day that on their skin’s surface the cancer appeared to have faded away and gone into remission (Hallelujah, the person somewhat wishfully thinks. I’m miraculously cured!) when in reality unbeknownst to the person and not understanding why they seem to be ever weakening, the cancer has in reality metastasized into their internal organs, and they were sicker than they’d ever been before, even at death’s door.

    Or someone with a somewhat bad crack addiction, likely having five to ten years to live due to it, and then entering into a mainline heroine addiction, and having less than a year.

    And I’m less than convinced these slavery addicted/corrupted power elites will suddenly on their own change their slaving (only caring about first and foremost their money and themselves) ways when they someday, perhaps sooner than anyone might think, unveil their ‘United States of the World’.

    This is why I say the failure to have truthfully dealt with chattel slavery and its trade, but instead rather to have monetized it, has been a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions for both the peoples of the world and for humanity as a whole.

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/monetize

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/a_virtual_round_the_world_voyage

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/slavery_on_a_grander_scale

  341. Okechukwu says:

    These so called ‘resistance’ movements are all directed and supported from outside. This is the exact same thing which happened with the Indian National Congress during so called Indian “Independence Struggle” but I will not bore you more on that.

    The same could be said of the American revolution, and every revolution there ever was.

    What you describe as directors were actually allies, of which the colonial regimes had plenty of their own. Many elements of western society (both in and out of government) gave material support along with aid and comfort to the racist regimes. So it would not have behooved the revolutionaries to reject allies and cede even greater advantages to those regimes.

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  342. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The only tribe that controls Zimbabwe is the Shona.

    LOL.
    The Shona tribe takes it’s orders from the big high IQ Han tribe.

    Zimbabwe Plotters ‘Asked China’s Permission to Oust Mugabe’

    How China helped depose dozing despot Mugabe

    How China helped oust Mugabe after flooding Zimbabwe with

    Did China Back Zimbabwe Coup? | China Uncensored

    The Han decided that they did not approve of Grace Mugabe and what the Han tribal chiefs decide, the Shonas have to follow.

    If you want to know who controls Zimbabwe’s mining industry, go here:

    http://www.chamberofminesofzimbabwe.com/index.php/en/

    You are a naive little retarded cunt are you not.
    You yourself talk about how Western countries screw African countries behind the scenes but all the ministers of agriculture, ministers of finance of African countries are all Africans. So what? things are behind the scenes no? In the mining business, you have to encounter the tribe all the time. And what with this fancy website? Fancy websites hide more than they reveal.
    You have not heard of Billy Rautenbach have you? A close friend of Mugabe, has White skin and and with the blessings and kickback of Mugabe and ZANU PF ministers has been involved in pillaging Congo and Zimbabwe for decades. This is the kind of White skinned people your hero Mugabe likes.

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  343. Okechukwu says:
    @Clyde

    Great post! Saves me from saying roughly the same. I will say that white man’s invention of refrigeration for foods, antibiotics, superior natal and birth care, modern sanitation…When blacks and other third worlders get these four their population can increase like never before.

    I refer you to Africans and the Industrial Revolution in England by Joseph Inikori and Inglorious Empire by Shashi Tharoor.

    Ever wonder how Western Europe became so wealthy so quickly? Most of it was due to the comprehensive looting and exploitation of its colonial possessions. All of these “wondrous” inventions were impossible without same. The industrial revolution itself was a direct by-product of same. So rather than expressing gratitude, the exploited require a heartfelt apology and trillions upon trillions of dollars in reparations.

    White supremacist morons assume everything has to be a zero sum game. But if someone creates something that’s beneficial to humanity, someone else shouldn’t have to be enslaved, abused and exploited in order to accrue its benefits. Altruism isn’t even necessary, only free and fair trade. The fruits of industrialization spread from England to the rest of Europe without a concomitant need for the rest of Europe to be thankful or to prostrate themselves in gratitude or to relinquish their freedom and self-determination.

    And in the case of Africa threaten to flood Europe with their surplus, unemployed males of prime reproductive age.

    These are the wages of the aforementioned sins. You cannot have an action without a reaction. Africans are merely following their looted wealth to where that wealth is housed. And they are escaping the dysfunction in their own homelands wrought by those looters. To make a difference one has to go right to the belly of the beast. I cannot imagine, after building up sufficient numbers in European cultural and political life, that people of African descent will stand pat against the continuing exploitation of their ancestral homelands. There are currently many ethnic minority MP’s in the British parliament. A black PM in the near future is not entirely out of the question.

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  344. @jacques sheete

    Jonathan, I went to the website and read a couple of articles, all excellent, but I have an aversion to “registering” with passwords and all that sort of G-damned monkey business.

    Well, with the current setup, you don’t need to be signed in to add a comment under an article, so it’s not more onerous than this site at the moment. That might or might not change. I’m playing that by ear. This site has some positive aspects, but this whole idea of letting every troll and professional disrupter show up and be Anon #xxxx or something is not something I am inclined to emulate. The flipside is that the bar is set very very low for people to add a comment, but there is entirely just too much bad-faithed crap. And to have all the Anon XXX people who won’t even choose a screen name and stick to it… So I’m hoping to have some discussion where we have quality and people talk openly but without all the utter jerks around.

    So, anyway, you can add comments under articles without registering (though I would say it’s preferable to do so.) But I also set up forum software that does require you to register to participate actively. But that is just typical of all of these sorts of online forums. If that’s so inconvenient for you that it precludes your participating, well… that’s your choice, I guess. What can I say?

    By the way, did you see the Manifesto?

    https://heresycentral.com/manifesto/

    Actually, you can add a comment under there too without registering.

  345. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    You fail to mention that this good White man who helped the resistance was driven away from his land by your hero Mugabe. What kind of people are they? this is how they thank their friends? by driving them sway from their lands?

    It’s misleading and disingenuous to pretend that we haven’t had this discussion before. Very recently in fact.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/#comment-2459832

    Oh, by the way, here are students at one of the best private schools in Mugabe’s Zimbabwe:

    That dastardly Mugabe sure was oppressive to whites. LOL.

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  346. S says:
    @Malla

    YW. It’s a truth that dare not be spoken in the United States, the elephant in the living room as it were, that the war had been fought for slavery by both the north and the south.

  347. Malla says:
    @Ben Sampson

    well they are not Semites but white people who converted to Judaism. they knew nothing about Palestine before they got there last century.

    Ben that MAY be true for the Ashkenazis who may have partially descended from Khazars , whose empire was a multiracial empire, not only having the Khazars but had Slavs, Arabs, Persians, Mongols, Central Asians, Goths, Greeks etc living in it. And it is very likely that the Khazars intermarried with some original Jewish population. And Ashkenazi Jews also have ancestry from German Jews and Western Slavic Jews who had nothing to do with the Khazars. Ashkenaz is after all is a name for Germany.
    But what about the Sephardics, Mizrahims etc..? They had nothing much to do with Khazaria and Khazars. Maybe Central Asian Jews or Mountain Jews of the Caucasus region may also have some Khazar ancestry but Jews living in Spain/Portugal and the Middle East would have nothing much to do with the Khazaria except correspondence through letters.
    Indeed the Sephardic Jews looked down upon the Ashkenazi Jews until a century ago.

    but the white people, the white power in the world, knew the Jews are white, which is why Israel is so supported, protected allowed to be the global predator and parasite that it is

    Not true. Most Israelis are Mizrahim, who are brown skinned Middle Eastern/ North African Jews. White Ashkenazi Jews are a (significant) minority today. And there is massive intermarriage in between these groups. There are also black Falasha Jews from Ethiopia.

    As far as, are blacks the real Israelites. I do not know. Maybe. Very hard to say.
    And same with Jesus. very hard to know for sure the details of his life. Maybe what you write is true, maybe what you write is not true. We would need a time machine to really find out. But you have an interesting theory.

    Africans are the oldest part of the human population.

    That has been debunked in my earlier video.

    white people have run the world for centuries now and look at the state of the planet! I rest my case.

    Non Whites too want to enjoy the technology of White people and have played a big part in destroying the planet. Unless you are Amish or Masai or some other people who shun technology, you are too playing your part. the computer you are using (and I am using) could have played a part in polluting the planet too.

    in the end the constitution by which humanity is supposed to live is nature itself. when we write national constitutions we go contrary to nature and produce the global failure we now have..facing human extinction itself. written national constitutions are the product of minority social control..tools of human domination and exploitation of each other.

    I agree with you 100%.

    ALL WHITE PEOPLE DO IS LIE..ALL THE TIME.

    I never had that experience. Indeed most White people I came across were quite an honest lot. the truth is, hiding behind White people are some elites. Elites who lie about history and science. Don’t blame all White people for what these elites do. These elites hate average White people too, indeed they hate White people more than people like you and me.

    now the Jews have always portrayed Iscariot as Black to put down black people

    Screw what they write. Do not let something like that put your people down. Most of these things are fables and stories. They should mean nothing. Concentrate on constant self improvement as a people and prove others wrong.

    . we will not survive with any certainty unless we come to really know nature and how we have come to be, and what we can do to ensure indefinite human security in nature. this is a project that is larger than the whole human species at this time but there is no survival unless we get to it. we can do so only by eliminating minority controlled society, making popular democracies which are free to focus on the real issues of existence..how can we survive indefinitely in an evolutionary natural reality .

    Again I agree 100% especially about the nature part. But unfortunately minorities always control majorities. It always ends up that way unfortunately. If makes no difference weather it is a democracy, monarchy, communism etc… it always ends up that way. Maybe we have to find some solution to this problem of minority control.
    As far as this being larger than the whole human species, I agree, very good point.

    we know this now..questions like this. such questions make all the sectarian nonsense into the waste of time it is..a waste of time that is tantamount to human or racial suicide and by the use of racial here I mean the human race in toto..suicidal

    Honestly speaking I would want all races and nations to communicate and find solutions together. But relations in between races or nations or religions are too complicated to have just simple peace. Maybe we have to work towards some system which will be satisfactory to all parties before we can concentrate on important issues.

    (forgive the typos…I have no time to edit)

    No problem bud.

  348. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    The Shona tribe takes it’s orders from the big high IQ Han tribe.

    I don’t think so, dummy. The Shona routinely round up and deport the Han for eating up their wildlife and household pets. That’s hardly how you treat a colonial master.

    Chinese deported for eating up Zimbabwe’s endangered wildlife

    One recent case in Zimbabwe involved the gruesome discovery of meat and skeletal remains of 40 tortoises, during a raid on Chinese workers’ homes in Masvingo province. The endangered Bell’s Hinged tortoises had been dropped into boiling water while still alive in order to separate the meat from the shell, police and animal welfare officials said.

    Two years ago, Chinese engineers installing transmitters in Matabeleland South were accused of stealing local dogs to kill and eat. Several Chinese nationals were arrested after being found brutally slaughtering dogs at their camp.

    The problem seems to be continuing: Zimbabwe’s Financial Gazette reported last month on allegations that dogs and cats are being served at upmarket Chinese restaurants in Harare.

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-04-12/chinese-eat-zimbabwe-s-endangered-wildlife

    The Chinese can hardly be said to be more intelligent when it is the Africans that are instructing them on how to conduct themselves like humane, enlightened human beings.

    LOL. Stupid self-hating, sycophantic hindu Uncle Tom, you’ve embraced all the trappings of the delusional white nationalist worldview, among them the absurd notion that China is somehow enslaving Africa.

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  349. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Of course we had that discussion before, but my point still stands. And you had posted these picture before, I believe. Well I agree with you, some Whites are doing all right in Zimbabwe. It is probably on the rural Whites who are having a hard time.

    There are Zimbabwean Whites in the Under 19 Zimbabwe Cricket team too. From 2016.

  350. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Inglorious Empire by Shashi Tharoor.

    Shahsi Tharoor can be and many of his points have been debunked.

    Africans are merely following their looted wealth to where that wealth is housed

    \
    No wealth was looted you fool. What about Hong Kong? What about Malaysia? Hong Kong got it’s independence only in the 1990s. It is one of the richest places on earth. European countries who had no colonies like Finland are also rich and richer than some European countries who had loads of colonies such as Portugal. By your logic HongKong who left the British Empire later than Malaysia who left the British Empire after India it should have been India richer (per capita) than Malaysia (per capita) than Hong Kong. But the opposite is the case. By your logic, Spain and Portugal should have been some of the richest countries as they had some of the largest empires but they were second world countries only some decades back.

    Europe looting the third world was a Marxist dumb theory to explain Europe not the third world. According to Marxist theory, capitalism is unstable and will lead to Communism. Indeed according to Marx the most industrial countries will become Communist first. But what happened, highly industrial nations England, Belgium, Germany never became communists even though there were labour unions and communist parties there. It was the more rural nation of Russia that went Communist. Similarly in Asia, highly industrialized Japan never became Communist but more agrarian China. As usual Marxist theories are a bunch of crap. So how do the commies explain Britain or France not becoming Communist, why they came up with a band aid theory that Europe are using colonies for their excess production runoff and are thus looting the colonies. The nationalists of these colonies took up this bullshit theory for their own agenda and now every idiot believes this theory. But the truth is it is not based on any reality as say for example Britain’s trade was mostly with Europe or USA than India or other colonies.
    Colonial looting fake Marxist theory is flawed because countries like Liberia and Ethiopia who were never colonized have poverty too. While countries like Hong Kong was rich even during British rule. India got independence before Malaysia and Malaysia before Hong Kong. According to stupid Marxist third world nationalist looting theory In per capita income it should have been India>Malaysia>Hong Kong But in reality HongKong>Malaysia>India, Indeed Hong Kong as a standard of living several times that of India. Similarly European countries like Ireland or Finland who never had any colonies have a very high standard of living and per capita wealth. Indeed Finland itself was colonized by first Sweden than Russia. Spain and Portugal who had big colonies were poor by European standards some decades back. Obviously the Britain looting colonies theory is non sense.

    And they are escaping the dysfunction in their own homelands wrought by those looters.

    The dysfunction was wrought by your worthless corrupt leaders and even the people up to some extent. You got rid of those colonial rulers and this is what you got. The income gap in between African countries and European countries actually increased after the end of colonialism.

    But if someone creates something that’s beneficial to humanity, someone else shouldn’t have to be enslaved, abused and exploited in order to accrue its benefits.

    That shows you low IQ African mind. Life is not a zero sum game.
    Europe’s wealth did not come from Africa or the third world.

    The great American economist Milton Friedman on Colonisation and Slavery

    A student poses a question to Milton Friedman in which he asks for an appraisal of just how exactly the riches that now exist in the so called “capitalist democracies” were obtained and how those countries became so rich so quick. Specifically he asks Friedman to account for the effect that having free labor derived from slavery allowed them to enrich themselves, and how the possession of colonies allowed rich countries to bleed wealth out of their colonial domains. Friedman responds by claiming it’s simply untrue that the wealth that arose in Western countries was due to slavery. Slavery was a disgrace and a blot on the United States’ record, but many rich Western nations did not have slavery. Britain and Japan did not have slaves when they developed and Hong Kong does not have slaves today. He goes onto claim that the facts are against the notion that the wealth was created due to the West exploiting its colonies. The reason people are quick to think so is that they have an ingrained predisposition to see view the world as a zero-sum game where if one man gains the other man looses. In reality a free market allows everyone to gain through mutually beneficial voluntary transactions. When the West colonized Africa they brought with them technology that greatly improved the condition of the people that lived there and actually made them better off. The wheel for example had not even been invented in Africa in the 19th century. As a result of Africa’s contacts with the West their condition improved greatly from what it previously was. To the charge that colonizers bleed wealth from their colonies, Friedman notes that it has always cost the mother country more to maintain its colonies then what was ever received in direct or indirect economic benefit. In the famous case of India, conclusive studies have shown that it cost Britain far more to maintain India then if it had never had it. Furthermore, many Western nations never possessed colonies yet became wealthy despite that fact.

    From http://www.friesian.com/british.htm
    we see that Britain’s trade with the Third World was tiny and not of any consequence as compared to it’s trade with the USA and the rest of Europe from the above link “Another lesson to be read off the trade figures is that a relatively small fraction of British trade involved colonies that would later constitute the “Third World.” Indeed, the only trade surpluses in the table are with India, Africa, the West Indies, and the Far East, which might give some heart to Marxist claims that British colonies, especially India, were the outlet for Capitalist “excess production.” However, the trade surpluses are small, and overall British trade with India and the other colonies is hardly larger than with the much, much smaller populations of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. No serious argument can be made that the likes of Australia and New Zealand, with their own autonomous governments and protective tariffs, were being “exploited” by Great Britain. Instead the largest British export market is simply with the rest of Europe. Indeed, Europe, the United States, Australia, Canada, etc. are the places where more people would have enough money to buy British goods.

    More here
    From http://www.friesian.com/british.htm we see that Britain’s trade with India was tiny and not of any consequence as compared to it’s trade with the USA and the rest of Europe from the above link “Another lesson to be read off the trade figures is that a relatively small fraction of British trade involved colonies that would later constitute the “Third World.” Indeed, the only trade surpluses in the table are with India, Africa, the West Indies, and the Far East, which might give some heart to Marxist claims that British colonies, especially India, were the outlet for Capitalist “excess production.” However, the trade surpluses are small, and overall British trade with India and the other colonies is hardly larger than with the much, much smaller populations of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. No serious argument can be made that the likes of Australia and New Zealand, with their own autonomous governments and protective tariffs, were being “exploited” by Great Britain. Instead the largest British export market is simply with the rest of Europe. Indeed, Europe, the United States, Australia, Canada, etc. are the places where more people would have enough money to buy British goods.

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  351. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Ever wonder how Western Europe became so wealthy so quickly?

    The Industrial Revolution.

    Some economists, such as Robert E. Lucas, Jr., say that the real impact of the Industrial Revolution was that “for the first time in history, the living standards of the masses of ordinary people have begun to undergo sustained growth … Nothing remotely like this economic behaviour is mentioned by the classical economists, even as a theoretical possibility.”[6] Others, however, argue that while growth of the economy’s overall productive powers was unprecedented during the Industrial Revolution, living standards for the majority of the population did not grow meaningfully until the late 19th and 20th centuries, and that in many ways workers’ living standards declined under early capitalism: for instance, studies have shown that real wages in Britain only increased 15% between the 1780s and 1850s, and that life expectancy in Britain did not begin to dramatically increase until the 1870s.

    During the Industrial Revolution, the life expectancy of children increased dramatically. The percentage of the children born in London who died before the age of five decreased from 74.5% in 1730–1749 to 31.8% in 1810–1829.[92]

    Most of it was due to the comprehensive looting and exploitation of its colonial possessions.

    Not true. I know this b.s. theory warms your heart. But this is not true at all. And if the colonial possessions always had this wealth all along, why did they not have the industrial revolution themselves???

    All of these “wondrous” inventions were impossible without same.

    Why not?

    The industrial revolution itself was a direct by-product of same.

    Not true.
    You ignore the fact, that already in the year 1600, Britain had double the per capita income than the global average. This is when the age of exploration was just starting!!! And now before you start barking about the source, the source is the same as what Sashi Tharoor is using in his dumb anti British diatribe, Angus Maddison.

    Even before colonisation started, Western Europe had a higher per capita income and thus standard of living than the rest of the world. Sashi Tharoor slyly does not talk about per capita income.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Historic_world_GDP_per_capita.svg

    Western Europe had a higher per capita income than the rest of the world and Africa even in the 1400s.

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  352. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Shahsi Tharoor can be and many of his points have been debunked.

    A random Internet troll says so, well then it must be true.

    No wealth was looted you fool. What about Hong Kong?

    Hong Kong didn’t have much wealth to loot. But has it occurred to your peabrain that the type of colonialism practiced in Hong Kong wasn’t quite the same as that which was practiced in Africa? Beyond being a complete imbecile, you seem to have absolutely no depth or sophistication to your thinking.

    The great American economist Milton Friedman on Colonisation and Slavery

    Friedman was a moron, as I made abundantly clear to you here:

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/#comment-2479749

    In fact all the arguments you are regurgitating on this thread have already been thoroughly debunked by me recently on another Mercer article:

    Obama Ignores Genocide In South Africa

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/

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  353. iffen says:
    @Rogue

    Efficient and successful commercial farming is not the point.

    The race of the landowner is the point.

  354. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    You ignore the fact, that already in the year 1600, Britain had double the per capita income than the global average.

    Only a complete nincompoop would attempt to assess GDP per capita in the year 1600. Fuck you’re an idiot.

    Western Europe had a higher per capita income than the rest of the world and Africa even in the 1400s.

    How exactly did they compile such data in the 1400′s, you dimwitted hindu?

  355. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The Chinese can hardly be said to be more intelligent when it is the Africans that are instructing them on how to conduct themselves like humane, enlightened human beings.

    LOL stupid fool. The Han are deciding who will be LEADER of Zimbabwe and you give me an article about some Chinese guy deported back to China. How can you even compare the severity of these two cases? Where did I say colonial master? You are saying it as it is.

    BTW consider yourself lucky if the Chinese hasbara gang here on Unz (denk, DB Cooper, TT, Joe Wong) do not read this. LOL

    Stupid self-hating

    Not really. I am quite smart really. Self Hating? Lol no I kind of like myself too much. LOL When you insulted Indians in some other page, I do not remember which, I showed you my ‘self hatred’. LOL.

    Uncle Tom

    Or shall we say speaker of uncomfortable truths. That is what Uncle Tom normally means.
    BTW I am not black, you idiot. I am Indian. That term is used for blacks.

    delusional white nationalist worldview

    There is nothing delusional in White Nationalism, there is a lot of truth in it. Anyways those videos are not from White nationalist sites.

    absurd notion that China is somehow enslaving Africa.

    Did I say enslavement? No, they are just deciding the leaders and deposing some leaders as they see fit. Like how I used to play with toys when I was a kid. Change Kings in the castle as I saw fit, as I willed.

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  356. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The same could be said of the American revolution, and every revolution there ever was.

    There are a lot of things about the American revolution which is very fishy.

    What you describe as directors were actually allies,

    Those allies were in close touch with the supposedly ‘colonial enemies’ those ‘revolutionaries’ were fighting against. Basically the whole thing was most probably a scam. And I don’t only mean only Africa. Many famous European revolutions, many Asian revolutions too.

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  357. S says:
    @Malla

    Re the Indian National Congress not too long ago I did some reading on Subhas Chandra Bose. Leaving aside entirely what one might think about the INC, Fascism, National Socialism, or Communism, Bose was heroic.

    Seeing an opportunity he traveled to Europe in 1941 thru the Soviet Union in wartime, seeking help for India all along, got training from the Germans for an Indian army (the Germans demonstrating mutual respect towards India and the India people, much unlike the British had done in a great many instances) that was to reconquer India in the wake of the German army’s invasion of the Soviet Union…

    ..when that fell thru taking a German submarine to Madagascar where he transferred to a Japanese sub, then with the help of the Japanese trained another Indian Army which he invaded Eastern India with in 1944 occupying some territory for a time, finally taking a desperate flight hoping to get to the Soviet Union where he dies in a fiery plane crash in Taiwan in August, 1945.

    That something that would make for an epic movie.

    My guess is if a movie has not been made about this already is that Bose is seen as being ‘on the wrong side’, Bose being sort of like India’s officially un-approved Malcolm X as opposed to Ghandi being India’s officially approved Martin Luther King.

    After the war Britain put on trial some of the Indian National Army troops for treason against the British Empire. The trials collapsed due to uproar from the Indian public whom saw Bose and his men as patriots and heros. Those trials of Bose’s men also caused a lot of the 2.5 million Indians whom had fought for the British Empire during the war to seriously question if they had been on the wrong side.

    Not disimilarly vast numbers of the British and Commonwealth troops who fought in WW II ever since, having seen what has transpired, have come to the conclusion there was something fundamentally not right about what the British Empire was fighting for in that disastrous war.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Army

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  358. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    I’d rather live free in a “shithole” than be a slave or third class citizen on my own land.

    Now that is a solid point. I cannot argue with that. But the problem is that South Africa is bit more complicated. It is not the same thing as say Nigeria or Ghana or India getting independence from Britain.

  359. Them Guys says:
    @RVBlake

    RVBlake: Fellow Michigan guy here too. After life in Detroit from birth until age 43 yrs old. I got so tired and so sick of seeing Detroit go from Great Motor City, to very Bad ghetto savage negro infested lands, to worse yet. So being retired at an early age, I moved aprox 200 miles north. And Now live on 10 acres between, Tawas & West Branch areas. A bit more north of those two wonderful small cities.

    Life in Up north mich areas is so unlike Ghetto Detroit or other ghetto cities, its difficult to explain how different it really is. More akin to 1955-1960 Detroit back when entire usa was about 90%+ Whites. My Township area now has, zero local police force, zero mayors, zero anything else besides a very small few local control officials. One township supervisor, one librarian, one building inspector for building permits etc. And an all volunteer fire dept. Very Low property taxes, about 1/4th of yearly taxes of same home in Detroit would be. And at least 99%+ of everybody within a couple hundred mile radius are all, European Whiteys. Life can be very swell once one does a, White Flight away from ghetto negro infestations, eh.

    It almost feels like life here Vs in Detroit is akin to, here is like a Cure to a major disease of Detroit life.

    We even have nice Road side signs that are, aprox. 10 inch x 12 inch sized and which state…”This Area is Patrolled by the Citizens of XXXXX Township.” And we All take it serious too. Everybody is packing a firearm, well, close to everybody is, and won’t hesitate to deal with any unknowns or criminal minded clowns. And “If” anything should happen to cause a resident here to need appear at county court for say, whacking a suspook perp, you can know that the resident citizen + The county Judge+ county sheriff or deputy + Entire Jury is going to All be White folk. A comforting thought for certain. Get Any charges in Detroit?…You will be the Only White in court=You Lose big time, no matter what.

  360. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    LOL stupid fool. The Han are deciding who will be LEADER of Zimbabwe and you give me an article about some Chinese guy deported back to China. How can you even compare the severity of these two cases?

    Well one case is real, the other is in your head. Provide proof that China decides who is the leader of Zimbabwe. I won’t hold my breath because you can’t. This is part and parcel of the white supremacist narrative which bears no relationship to reality. It’s a way to assuage their bitter feelings over their little racist Rhodesia project going defunct, convincing themselves that the Zimbabweans are suffering under the boot of their Chinese overloads. But in reality, China walks on eggshells in Africa, careful not to antagonize their hosts.

    BTW consider yourself lucky if the Chinese hasbara gang here on Unz (denk, DB Cooper, TT, Joe Wong) do not read this. LOL

    I’ve already encountered some Chinese supremacists here and cleaned their clocks. You have nothing to worry about.

    Self Hating? Lol no I kind of like myself too much. LOL When you insulted Indians in some other page, I do not remember which, I showed you my ‘self hatred’. LOL.

    You’re an Indian white supremacist, which is much worse than a white one. Funny thing is, I don’t think they actually like you. So your obsequious pandering lands on deaf ears.

    BTW I am not black, you idiot. I am Indian. That term is used for blacks.

    Every ethnic group has their own iteration of the Uncle Tom character. Indians are no different. I’m sure there’s a word for it in hindi.

    Did I say enslavement? No, they are just deciding the leaders and deposing some leaders as they see fit. Like how I used to play with toys when I was a kid. Change Kings in the castle as I saw fit, as I willed.

    That’s a cute fantasy, bruh. Prove it.

  361. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Boeuf les Puissants, yes, it’s mostly the Christian Zionists and many Freemasons and many RCCers. First, none of these groups can handle the fact that “universal brotherhood” and “universal church” are destroying the West. Second, many of these groups overlap in membership when it comes to Freemasonry and Christianity. The Christian Zionists believe that by rebuilding the temple Jesus will come back and they will rule with Him. The Freemasons believe that rebuilding the temple will allow them to rule the world. Remember when Satan tried to tempt Jesus by giving Him all the kingdoms in the world? This is what the Freemasons believe they will have with the rebuilt temple. Many RCCers (particularly the homosexual priests) also are in on this because Satan would promote homosexuality. Because of the beliefs of these groups, we have the power of the Israel lobby.

    This is why I start everything with biology, then beliefs. We need a two-fold strategy. The first is defining what the West is not. It is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. Then we can support Israel and state that all Jews must go there. Black/Asians/Muslims will have to be repatriated or segregated. This will cause the Christian Zionists and RCCers to go insane because they believe in universal Christianity. This is why I always bring up IQ and its relation to race. I can prove that Christianity cannot help blacks/Asians. If blacks/Asians want to be Christians, they must have their own churches. The hysteria that will ensue from these two groups will have to be dealt with. Fortunately, the RCC has collapsed. As bad as the homoheresy is, the RCC is now mostly black/Asian so it is not part of the West any more. The papacy is gone. People are converting to the Orthodox churches where the churches are racial/ethnic. The Christian Zionists are losing people. Many Zio churches are closing in the South. Putin has expelled Mormons, Jehovahs and Baptists from Russia. He is correct in this. These American Christian cults are strictly for the USA and not for export. Blacks and Indians in Latin America are returning to their voodoo or Indian pagan belief systems. This is good as it facilitates separation.

    We also have to deal with negrophiliacs like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. Coulter has been singing the praises of her newest groid hero, Paris Dennard, who had an argument with the liberal Phil Mudd. On cue, all along the neo-con/cuckservative “right,” Dennard is hailed as a new “conservative hero.”

    As I’m sure you noticed, I did not mention any Jewish names who are involved with these groups. Another group to avoid are the neo-Nazis. Anytime, someone blames the Jews for everything, ignore them. I read the Daily Stormer and today they were promoting some Swedish Nazi group, the Nordic Resistance. It’s leader was babbling about how Hitler was a great man and the Jews are the problem. Most of these groups are supported by Jews, the US, German and Israeli governments. They are the ones dividing the West. Radioaryan has some show with a Sven Longshanks. This looney will babble about “racial purity” and the Jews. He had a show recently with a degenerate Irish RCCer, Dennis Wise. This loony produced a youtube series about Hitler and tried to make the concentration camps look like summer camps. He is a devout RCCer so that’s a problem because of black/Asian priests-popes. Then he babbled something on a show about Greeks and Italians being black. He’s another stooge plant.

    The Muslims in the Middle East have to be told that Islam is a Christian heresy. This is something the RCC and Zioevangizer cucks won’t do. I do this locally when I encounter Muslims.

    As I have consistently commented, it is the Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer male who is the crux of the problem in the West.

  362. Bucky says:
    @Okechukwu

    Yeah, the Chinese shouldn’t eat those animals, but all things considered this is peanuts. The Chinese per capita consume far less than the Western world and consumption is what is killing the earth. This sort of prosecution is so silly. And Africans have never stereotyped others? Spread false rumors? That’s what it sounds like here. Because Africans are so used to being treated with kids gloves by whites that they get this sense of entitlement.

  363. Them Guys says:
    @Okechukwu

    You are so full of crap it ain’t funny. American Whiteys mainly made stuff and things they also invented, by use of Americas Own Vast resources. We also Fed the worlds poor and jungle cannibal savage darkies. America was the main major capitol of industry and production which so assisted every allied nation in both world wars. Mostly all done with our own resources and iron and steel etc etc…..America was called the Bread Basket of the World then also.

    All your nonsense spew of whitey stole it all from poor little jungle bunny black africans is BS. Maybe a few Brits did that? Not American whites though. But of course you black loosers always blame every white folk who ever lived since life began.

    Face Facts. If you could wave a magic wand and cause every black and brown person on the entire planet to disappear Tomorrow at Noon…..The rest of the entire world would never notice nor miss them peoples…In fact, most non brown or black folks would admit the world would be far, far better off if such happened.

    Now do a 180 reverse scenario eh…Wave that magic wand and cause every single White, to disappear tomorrow at Noon…..What will that create? I will Tell you what!

    If every European Whitey was gone from entire planet, within one Decade if not much sooner yet, All of You dark race peoples and international Jewry too, would go Backwards in time. And you’d most all end up back in Mud & Shit Huts, or caves and furiously scratching heads trying to Re-invent the fuckin Wheel!!!…Then even if one or two exceptions within the dark races did manage to re-invent a wheel?…They and all the rest would be back at square one, in trying to comprehend just what the fuck do you now do with said, wheel? Maybe set it to roll over neighbor tribe of jungle ape like sub humans?….or perhaps, Pray to it!..Yes that’s it by jove! They’d pray to it as a stone god wheel.

    I get that it must be very hard for many blacks and browns to see all that whites created and invented and built, and use much of it in daily life too…All the while seething with vast envy and deep inner hatred for whites, since whites is who should get the main credit. So, like spoiled babies, dark races whine and cry and foam at mouth spewing massive hatred and anger at whitey as if it will somehow fix darkies own deficiencies and Low IQ averages, eh. Never works like that though.

    Just because Marxist Zio Jews have grabbed the power and reigns of control so they can now, Re-write history school text books, and hire Marxist Jewish lefty professors to do likewise at every college now…That don’t change real factual truths about all that Whites accomplished and built and how if not for euro whitey, nothing close to a Civilized society would ever be known of…Just never ending, same old, same, of Jungle savage spear chuckers, cannibals, and cave dweller type low lifes….Instead of blame whitey, perhaps you need to THANK Us whites. We didn’t have to Share it all with you clowns you know..Nor did we have to Pay for most of Your peoples welfare and stuff and things that so equalize, or try to equalize, dark races with Our Own Whites.

    Face facts..Most Non Whites are a bunch of Inbred Ingrates, period. And Most Whites are sick and tired of your constant blame game against whiteys. It will not end well, especially for your peoples I predict.

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  364. @S

    Does it follow that you would regard slavery as still existing where a welfare state didn’t exist and provide an income or direct provision of services sufficient to provide adequate food, shelter, education and health care to adults and their children if the combination of landownung and other sources of income weren’t sufficient?

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  365. Them Guys says:
    @Clyde

    Clyde: Thank you for the nice reply back to me. And I too agree on what you stated. White folks need to finally ban together as a group and speak out loudly and as often as possible about all this constant blame whitey crap. Also speak out on how so much of all we call society, culture, nation, etc. Has been disproportionately hijacked by and now is run by, Jews. Watch ANY TV channel News show, 24/7 and all you see is a round or square table with half dozen talker heads, called “reporters” and “news Anchors”…..While out of every table group of 6 persons, has 4 or 5 being a Jew. Jews are less than 2% gen population in usa…Yet control top spot positions in All that matters, and in Every category of, MSM-Newspapers-Magazines-Hollywood-Fed Govnt.- State Govnt’s-Universities-Unions-etc. etc.

    And no sane honest person can refute nor deny the Fact that…In all of known world history to date. Both Negroes & Jews have…Never…Ever..Had it…so fucking swell as within, White America, Period.

    Yet just look at how both Jews & Negroes thank the White folks, eh. It is long past wake up time, for All Whites. And time for a constant reminder presence of White voices speaking out and condemning every Blame whitey black, and every ungrateful Jew in the usa. EU Whites need do same in their lands too.

    I Know from a lifetime life in Detroit that when whites confront blacks and Jewry with such truths and show both groups that, Whitey is very pissed off and is not gong to keep putting up with such crap much longer…..That’s when Whitey regains the upper hand so to speak. Even when a white guy in Detroit gets confronted by two or three ghetto scum negroes…If that white guy stands his ground, and tells those blacks to fuck off or whatever, 99% of the time the blacks back down. You can see and smell their fear when a white man stares straight into their beady dark soulless eyes, and tells it like it is….Then they fear whitey man and no serious troubles occur typically. But when white man acts in fear of the blacks, it all comes unglued fast and ends badly for the white guy usually.

    Most such blacks are more like small kids in their minds. And in dire need of some real adult white man actions to confront them instead. Them blacks will not admit it usually, but they too know how and why whitey really is superior in most ways that matter. Such as IQ and various logic and ability of mental and phys sense. Many blacks excel in ball sports games. But sports games are just that, Games. And sports games of chasing some goofy ball filled with air around a field is not what creates nor builds stuff like whites are so swell at doing. Blacks know that too, and it makes for one more reason they so envy and hate whitey for. But Hey! it ain’t Whiteys fault that blacks are so lacking in so many ways and areas right, so, yes long past due time for every white to speak out against black’s hatred of whitey.

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  366. @jacques sheete

    Just like here in the good ole’ US of A….fun times,fun times

  367. Them Guys says:
    @Malla

    I wonder if some DNA expert tech guy has discovered an DNA Link that links Negroes with actual Baboons and Apes and Chimps. But due to todays out of control PC tactics are afraid to go public with such dna findings?

    Why is it that the only one single race known of, the negro, is who not only looks so close to real apes etc, but also Acts so much akin to an actual Ape or Baboon? I am serious here. No other race has such distinct features, unless you count other races that Mixed with negroes like Mexicans for example. It seems the more negro dna they have, the more they look like and act like a real Ape animal.

    I think by now someone has discovered such a real Missing Link of DNA within negroes, and sooner or later, a scientist dna expert with zero left to lose due to he is soon to be dead from cancer or some such issue, and also has zero wife or kids to worry about, is going to come forwards and totally shock the entire world with a huge dna revelation that deals with the issue as I wrote of here.

    And when that day arrives, No amount of crying or bitching is going to change reality and dna facts about…Yes folks, we now have proof positive that sub-human claims about African blacks were very well founded, and were Not simply racist in there nature when spoken of prior.

    Won’t that be a real Hoot eh? School kids across the planet being taught about new dna discoveries which link negroes to real live Apes and Baboons and Chimps.

    It must get headed off before being broadcast publicly, to have congress pass new laws so no negroes can use the new dna findings as an excuse to get yet more free $$$ Benefits out of white taxpayers…Lib dems and race hustlers like Sharpton will fast teach every negro that their Ape linked dna is a handicap or disability and allows for more free stuff for blacks at whites expense.

    If anything was to be given free to such sub humans it should be, one Free, one way trip to Africa and based on that dna proof of being part non human so a jungle is perfect place, since not eough zoos can be built fast enough.

  368. @Them Guys

    US without a white people…

    “Where da fuel and metal and all dat sheeit?”

    …”Muh dick”

    “Hey Esse, Los Blancos Vamos El Layyyyy….now it looks like Tijuana”

    ….Cornio……

  369. @Them Guys

    Mexicans don’t look Negro. They look prehistoric Asian. Some ancient branch of Mongoloids that either came down from Siberia or across shallow sees from Polynesia at the dawn of time.

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  370. @Them Guys

    Jews have a mean IQ of 7 points higher than other whites. It is not just networking and nepotism that has allowed them to reach positions of influence. Jews are not stupid. They produced Einstein, Salk, Marx. Most of their intelligence is of the verbal as oppose to spatial-that is why so many of them end up screenwriters, lawyers, deal makers, songwriters, Ponzi schemers.

    You cannot compare them to Hood Rats. Jews will do pornography to make money; they won’t break into nursing homes and rape old people. Jews will rob people through credit cards; they won’t pistol whip a store manager.

    Sarah Silverman is a horrendous slut but she is not having 5 kids out-of-wedlock. She has admitted to doing sexual favors for Goy power-players in the media and doing anal orgies…but she is not pleading for welfare because she was walking past a porch and some Hood Rats offered her Malt Liquor and crack and now she has no idea who the father of the child is.

    Schools do not turn into hellish places because of Jews. The Jew is not selling crack cocaine on the road.

    I’m not a Jew but let us be truthful that in terms of sheer physical destruction of a person, place or thing, Jews are not the threat that Hood Rats or Cholos are.

  371. bj says:

    Ever wonder how Western Europe became so wealthy so quickly? Most of it was due to the comprehensive looting and exploitation of its colonial possessions. All of these “wondrous” inventions were impossible without same. The industrial revolution itself was a direct by-product of same. So rather than expressing gratitude, the exploited require a heartfelt apology and trillions upon trillions of dollars in reparations.

    Wakanda isn’t real, no matter how much you fabulate.

    Kangz of #Wakanda

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  372. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Many Mexicans and south americans etc look exactly like African negroes. Just a few months ago I recall seeing a photo of two Suspook perps that murdered and raped some white girl. And both suspooks in the police photo looked so much like a negro from Detroit or Africa, you’d never realize they were Mexicans. Only clue was their full names being typical hispanic names.

    They call themselves LatinO’s and latinA’s as if it was a race. But its really just a nicer sounding way to say a…Mutt. If we were discussing Dogs and dog breeds instead of humans, everyone would say, when asked “Hey what type or breed is that dog over there?” If the dog was say, german shepard or blood hound or other pure breed dog, then folks will answer that way…However if its a dog that has a combo of several other dog breeds, folks will answer “Oh that dog is just a Mutt”

    If its so important for dogs and horses to remain a pure bred, why is it not equally if not more important for Humans to remain a pure bred person?

    Ergo here we uncover the huge racial problems we today have. Too many Mutt-humans and the whole worlds fucked up badly. And I believe main reason for Mexicans or Hispanics typically being the most violence prone, and violent at drop of a chicken bone or taco, is due directly to they are such a combo of too many races within one individual human. Humans were never orig created to be mixed races. The human brain/mind, and also nervous center which aids in mental control of the physical body parts of a human. Were never intended to get so many dna mixed signals and it obviously screws up their minds and causes such quick violence in those persons.

    I guess one can compare it to a person taking a dozen different type Pills at same time…Like they take a pill of Amphetamine and also at same time take a downer pill like say, seconal sleeping pill. Then add in even more various types med pills….Once all combined pills take effect, what is that person going to do? Or act like? Like a skitzo crazed violent space case right. His brain will get messages to sleep while at same time get a different message to run around fast and clean entire house in record time due to the speed pill…Well, I think a combo of most every race known of in one individual person will create similar problems…hence we see most Mexicans or Hispanics seem to possess very quick tempered violence prone skitzo attacks in public. And some having African black dna mixed in can only make it all worse yet.

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  373. @Jeff Stryker

    Basically you’re talking about comparing a dumb person with a Molotov cocktail to a smart person with a guided missile. Not sure what point you’re really trying to make here.

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  374. Them Guys says:
    @bj

    But…Dey Wuz Kangs! An Sheeeeiiiittt! An den comes Ebil whitey honkey crackah man an stole it all away! an, Shhhheeeeiiitttt!

    Calm down Darkie Kangz, and keep repeating “Ain’t No Thang…Butta Chickin Wang! No Thang Butta Chickin Wang!

  375. geokat62 says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I’m not a Jew but let us be truthful that in terms of sheer physical destruction of a person, place or thing, Jews are not the threat that Hood Rats or Cholos are.

    If you’d like to be truthful, you really need to give the leading members of the Frankfurt School a good read, especially Theodor Adorno’s, The Authoritarian Personality. It is the FS’s ideology of Cultural Marxism, better known as the New Left, that has marched its way through our institutions post WWII that has undermined the pillars of Western civilization, including the family, the church, and the press. It is this virus that has attacked the foundations of our society. You can’t get any more destructive than this. The Hood Rats or Cholos are two bit rookies in comparison to these titans of destruction… if we’re being truthful, that is.

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  376. MAlla…the Ashkanze capturing the printing press, fabricated a provenance for Jews as a whole, located in Palestine that never happened. yet they were able to print and spread the tales as truth that conquered the world in conjunction with the spread of western christianity

    yes those who evolved Judaism were not white and actually lived in Palestine..Falashas etc. but they did not write the fables

    sure there is mixture in the Khazars. as far as I have read their empire, weakened by the Rus/Byzantine combination against them, lasted into the 12-13 centuries and was dispersed finally by the Mongols. so there is Mongol blood in their mix too.

    but the Khazars in that way are white European, capitalists and work easily with the white countries fulfilling overall white imperialist activity in northeast
    africa/Asia

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  377. S says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Whether a ‘welfare state’ exists or not, or whatever I think about one existing or not, is immaterial to whether slavery exist in the form of the wage slavery system (ie cheap labor/mass immigration) particularly within the Anglosphere countries…not surprisingly this slavery is in those countries so much as it was the British Empire which dominated the global trade in slaves when chattel slavery and its trade was monetized in the 19th century (rather than be abolished as it should of been) much to the world’s great sorrow.

    Slavery exists, and to the extent publicly financed government charity or private charity exists, it is not there to be much abused and drained, by the former would be slave dealers/slave owners with their promotion of the cheap labor/mass immigration scheme.

    By the way, as with a great many others, I no longer believe in the whole ‘left/right’, ‘Capitalist/Red’, false dichotomy as something to fight or believe on either ‘side’ for, and only see it useful to the extent in (somewhat vaguely and broadly at times) describing past events and what some believe since 1776 and 1789.

    Not believing it, or partaking of it, naturally doesn’t ipso facto make someone a ‘FASCIST!’tm, or a ‘HATER!’tm, or a so called ‘RACIST!’tm, or a ‘SUPREMACIST!’tm, nor does it make someone a person whom wants to harm animals or small children. If such absurdly and simplistically did then it would make all the hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people that lived and breathed before 1776 and 1789 all those things. It’s absurd and the world’s a whole lot more nuanced than that.

    I also don’t believe in the ‘perfecting of humanity’ in the ‘convergance’ of Capitalism and Marxism forming the cult/ideology of ‘Multi-Culturalism’, nothing in general being perfect..though I do believe in doing the best one can.

    What am I then?

    I’m just me.

    How anyone can still believe or take seriously the whole ‘left/right’ meme or its offshoots anymore amazes me. In Vietnam the ‘Capitalist’ US seemed to have been ultimately defeated in 1975 by the ‘Communist’ North Vietnamese, at great loss of life to both sides, particularly the latter.

    Not so many decades later, you can now go into any Walmart in the United States and purchase underwear made by North Vietnam wage slaves (ie ‘cheap laborers’ so called) who are the sons and daughters of those NVA ‘Regulars’ the US fought.

    So what was it all for, the ‘fighting’ and the ‘protests’, etc?

    Not saying that you do believe the whole ‘left/right’ meme.

    Anyway..

  378. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Jews are far greater danger and threat precisely due to being much smarter than typical ghetto hood rats….Jews do far more nation wreckings based on their many nefarious agendas and practices against Goyim gentiles. Especially against White gentiles. I do not buy into all their Jew promoted high IQ compared to euro whites. Jews always make claims of being better, smarter, or anything else they think is Good for Jews. Most often its later proven as false claims. See WW II HoloHoax event claims, all six million such wild fables and claims for example of Jewry gone wild.

    Face facts Jeff, the worlds Foremost Problem is The International Jew. Henry Ford, 1922.

    And as in a very close horse race event, Negroes are running at a close #2 to #1 Jew problem for entire world. So close it is almost a photo finish to determine which group is worse, Jews or Blacks.

    Of course there are always a Few exceptions to every rule. Look far and wide and in every century one can locate aprox a dozen or so good Jews. Same for Blacks. But when push comes to shove? How many of those few good ones are going to remain good? How many will side against Whitey?

    Perhaps thats the main reason that in every of 109 nations which booted Jews Out at some point, booted out every single one, eh? Unless you believe like most Jews do that everyone non jewish is the problem and Jews never ever do wrong or deserve a boot out. I can’t stop laughing at that last part!

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  379. the condition of truth in the world is that humans can never know the complete truth about anything. that seems to be in the nature of things.

    I had a glimpse of you video but I did not go into it. you see when it comes to the out of Africa theory I dont know of course but logically I had to develop a useful way to parse the story.

    I told you white people lie all the time. most accurately the white elites lie all the time. they have vested interest to protect..minority interest and all that threaten that interest is squashed if at all possible. and of course their are guardians set up all over the place over all human activity to protect against information that might destabilize the situation

    so you know how school-education, research etc go. you may research what you want but you relase what you are allowed to. you go outside and release what you want to but the system will cut you out, shut you down, make you poor, make you beg if they can. they may even kill you if what you do is harmful enough

    that is the first criteria to count when considering any body of information before you..who wrote, filmed it and why, who paid for it..whose interest is driving it, behind it.

    I have yet to see how ‘Out of Africa’ serves the interest of the established power. I have yet to see a natural law like Gloger’s law isnt truthful..especially how it marries up with know historical climate to and the life on earth during those times.

    and if you say the claim the Africans are the oldest is debunked, who did so, where is their work, the body of the work? how did they treat Rebecca Cann’s MtDNA studies

    you see I go by C Anta Diop who was murdered..Theophile Obenga and the Black scholars from around the world. they all took their lives into their hands and did terrific work over several generations..work that continues with more and new scholars noses to the wheel….

    all these people have been supressed, hampered, attacked etc for their wor. we must..I give their work the benefit of the doubt for that reason

    I am biased towards the work of such people or all ethnic backgrounds of the human species who have done work in all the sciences who give Africa the priority they have given. I am not keen on the video you posted at all

    yet I am open to all alternatives..if there is sufficient back-up of evidence…if there is an absolute chronology supporting it that is strong enough. when scholars speak ‘Out of Africa’ there is an absolute chronology involved. all marries up..time, weather conditions and quality of the environment, biology…the existence of Albinism for example in the presence of TYR Gene/enzyme in the human body: the function of VitD in the body..the effect of its absence or presence in the human diet..or its availability or lack of from sunlight. even the fat that is needed for the body to process VitD to allow it to do its work in achieving human survival

    all this has been demonstrated..the migrants followed all over Europe to detect the weather variations over europe, northwards for thousands of years..why some populations remained black and others did not. there are in China for example photographs of the original black people who morphed into Chinese still there until Mao is reputed to have dealt with them..eliminated them

    you see this and more I know about the ‘Out of Africa’ story. so for claims of alternatives they would have to be as thorough, establish their claims and try to prove it..explaining away the flaws of previous reasoning and artificial that led to Out of Africa

    I know we do not know the real story but we must be efficient at all times. what we know is useful and takes us forward. but there is an endless ocean of time behind us, enough time for all manner of things to have happened, passed and happen again. we are here now: it is ridiculous to think that in all that time only humans …we have evolved. but it is our approach today that is troubling. it is racial and biased and we must get out of that or the research and its results will forever be tainted by extraneous and polluting bias

  380. @geokat62

    Hyphenated-Americans and “cultural Marxism”

    When I was a kid “Italians” were Italian and today they are just…white. Kids these days don’t even know what “mick” means or why Archer Bunker used it.

    Even the word “Polak” which used to refer to anybody who looked like Charles Bronson and lived in a factory town like Gary or Detroit has now lost its meaning.

    To be honest, white Americans are no longer culturally distinct.

  381. @Them Guys

    True about the schizo attacks in public.

    Blacks to some degree are zoned to particular areas and their freakouts are sort of comical, more than anything else.

    But Mestizos pull a “Danny Trejo” and just start throwing knives at someone in public.

  382. @Beefcake the Mighty

    You don’t have to watch Sarah Silverman on television.

    You don’t have to care whatsoever what the MSM says or how males are portrayed in cheaply made sitcoms.

    You don’t have to watch porn until your marriage disintegrates.

    You don’t have to get hooked on pain pills because Jewish doctors are willing to prescribe them (I heard the same thing about Prozac in the 90′s).

    You don’t have to volunteer for a war in Iran because Israel wants you to.

    You don’t have to read Ayn Rand, Freud or buy a word of the stuff.

    You don’t have to be a whigger who has kids out of wedlock.

    …with blacks and Mestizos there is no escape. Jews RAISE the value of your property if they move next door, even if their daughter goes out to LA to be a stand-up comedienne and ends up doing porno. Blacks and Mestizo reflect an immediate threat.

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  383. there is for some time a a sort of revolutionary science group doing great work called the Electric Universe. they are trying to develop a cosmology that explains human history to now. I think they have contributed great positive even revolutionary changes in human knowledge and approach to science in the process of trying to establish their claim

    based on the work of Immanuel Velikovsky they say that the clockwork solar system we see today wasn’t always that way. they claim the earth was part of a different red dwarf star system in which Saturn was its sun..a system that came into contact with the current suns heliosphere, producing violent electric events the heavens that finally led to the clockwork situation solar system we now have

    the EU as they are referred to appear to prove a lot of what they claim yet they must be able to say when this event occurred precisely. they cant. they have been trying to fit it in up to 32 thousand years ago but that to my mind cannot work. if that even actually took place..and sense that it did ti could not have been as recent as they think. my own estimation is about 200 thousand years ago or even further back.

    why? because there are things culturally embeded in human culture, universally now that could not possible have developed outside the current solar system’s regularity..and which cultural norms had to have taken at least 100 thousand years to discover and complete. one such cultural fact is the PRECESSION OF THE EQUINOXES that is impossible to account for under 100 thousand years of work, or working out the heavens.

    and for that to have happened all that is in place now in the sky had to have been in place back then to, unchanging, observed in their repeating cycles s that humans observed them codified them and made all sorts of things from them. they are mostly gigantic time cycles to the 24 hour day and 60 minute hour etc.

    if the planetary upheaval the EU talks about took place 35 thousands years ago the orbits would not have reset exactly as they were before. therefore if humans were codifying the stars to develop all the cultural norms we now they would have had to start over and they would not have been able to have arrived now where we are at. there would not have been enough time from 35 thousand years ago.

    for example the Precession of the equinoxes is a time cycle an explanation of which can be found on youtube and elsewhere on the net. the precession runs a cycle of 25992 years. one month in that great year is 2166 years. for example in the year 2041 on an early morning , Capricorn will end after its 2166 years long run and the world will precess into AQUARIUS for the first time in almost 26 thousand years. tons of people, billions would be up with their recording devices to see dawning or rise of Aquarius.

    heres the tricky part: Aquarius will rise with the light….the star formation does what they cal an Helical Rising..rising with the day light. and the star formation will be able to be seen only at that time in the gloam in a particular belt or parallel in the sky

    that is what our ancient forebears were doing. that is how we got all our time cycles..all from the hoary old past codified by humans. who were these humans..and how did hey see the sky so clearly…where were they located?

    and these humans built all their building especially their vast monuments directed by the content of the sky they had observed for so long. from such codification they knew the earth was round and was in orbit around the sun. the they had calculated the prime meridian and built the major Pyramid to coincide with the meridian. there are stone formations all over africa that have been proven to be tracking devices of the stars

    here is a lie Malla! the white power has attributed the discover of the precession to one Greek by the name of Hiparchus or some such. he can be googled. wicky wacky claims Hiparchus discovered the Precession by mistake. yeas and he built the Zodiac the same way eh..and the time cycles..24 hour day. 24/7 week, 4/week month..365 day year and on and on

    so you see..all of that must be debunked about out of Africa. but it cant be because the Africans kept copious notes. they drew themselves so we know what they looked like from the start. so when it is reported who walked into Europe and got trapped by the ice they know of whom the speak

  384. @Them Guys

    Would you rather walk past a group of Jewish youths in the dark or black 18 year ones?

    Are Jewish schools really that bad for Gentile students (Sexual assaults, robbed in the hallways, gangs getting your son to try meth at 14)? I’d bet the academic standards are higher than normal.

    When Jews move into your neighborhood the chances are your property value GOES UP (This happened in Ann Arbor) and when blacks move does your property value soar?

    As for the rest of it, well, Jews watch the same television shows and have access to the same credit cards and it does not seem to warp their viewpoint.

    Molly Ringwald type JAPS don’t seek out a black thug to have a baby with because they watched BLACK PANTHER and cannot distinguish some film written by cokeheads over tequila shooters in LA with real life.

    Beastie Boys were arguably the first whiggers and Jews did not rush out to imitate them-the word “Beastie Boy” is a slur that Jews use to describe Jewish whiggers. But rural whites roll around their suburb and tell people they are “straight gangster”.

    Blacks and Mestizos represent an immediate danger on the street.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Okechukwu
  385. Watching says:
    @Anonymous

    I use the term God because it’s a name that you gentiles understand. And that you would quote a scripture to me makes me laugh like hell. “holy Nordic name?’, there’s nothing holy about any pagan gods, or their pagan religions. You contemptible heathens were released from your masters, which includes all of your pagan deities, yet you return to them like a dog to vomit. I worship the “Living God”, the master of all of your pagan gods, the one who created them. They have been sentenced to death, yet you still blindly follow them. If you knew more, you would know these things, but your pagan deity has kept you ignorant, that you blindly follow him. Better learn what the term “Most High” means, pagan.

  386. Watching says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So are you suggesting that those criminals get a free pass? They too will go, it’s just a matter of time.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  387. @Ben Sampson

    European Jews are basically a bunch of wops who stumbled into Medieval Italy and married Italian women in Roman times.

  388. Jews are far greater danger and threat precisely due to being much smarter than typical ghetto hood rats….Jews do far more nation wreckings based on their many nefarious agendas and practices against Goyim gentiles.

    who says the Jews are smarter than Blacks..of the ghetto or from anywhere at all?

    the Jewish people, by whom I mean the Ashkanaze have given the rest of the human species no alternative but to killed them to survive. the Ashkanaze Jews are like oil to water among humans. there is no joining them, no mixing with them. we are here to serve them and nothing more.

    we are here to supply them with our body parts when they are sick, to wipe their arses when they shit. we are to be culled when they decide there are too many people alive. the world was made for them as the chosen so they can do what they wish with it and it will fix itself

    a Jewish company, Monsanto has poisoned the world from top to bottom and from left to right. they have stolen you from yourself man and you put the blame on Black people. the Jews are only a very small minority of a people in the world. Black people have money. we were useful and productive as slaves now that kind of slavery is gone.

    but the Jews dont work so where do they get their money?

    those who work and that is you. you have all the jobs. and the biggest contribution you make is to donate 80% of the product of your 8-hour workday to your Jewish owner. they through the government of yours he has bought out and turned against you he systematically reduces the 20% that is your wages by taxes of all kinds on your life including the coercive forces in your life that forces you to comply with all the unjust laws. he makes you pay for that so that 80% he takes up front is unencumbered and free

    he makes you and all who have jobs, pay for society, all that keeps it together so that he can hold it still while he rips it off. is that what you call smart? if he is so smart that is the best he can do with society..war-monger it, poison it, create unhappiness for a thousand years and running all over the planet?

    and it is YOU who pay for it. you allow it to happen and you are the chief victim..not the guy in the ghetto who has nutten to lose. he has nutten period totally ripped off long time now. the fool is you not that the Jews are smart. the Jews are not smart..they are crazy! mentally ill! psychopaths!..just about all of them with their insane religion. what god would make a world then create such absolutely awful monsters as his chosen? what kind of freaking god would that be?

    and what kind of god that would make you, who work hard like a slave then let the Jew take it all, enslave your life then point you finger at others as cause of you own malady…

    the god who made this world is a pain in the arse, an imp who loves torment. that god is a fetishist who loves misery, gets off on human horrors, comes all over the place on a human mass murder. on a genocide he is down for days, crippled by extasy..sweetened to a standstill

    seems to me you need a wake up[ pill

  389. Watching says:
    @Malla

    New World Order (NWO), One World Order (OWO), are used interchangeably, if you understand and have knowledge of this nefarious scheme, then you’ll know this. The point was that it isn’t new, it’s as old as Babel. Getting to your other issue, yes the blacks (whatever tribe they belong to) are the indigenous. They are as indigenous as Chinese are to China, or French are to France, or Aborigines are to Australia. It amazed me how some of you think that the present world order will be the future world order. Some of you will be in for a great surprise.

  390. @Watching

    Africans were so backward that Indonesians were the first to discover Madagascar even though it was only 50 miles off the coast of Mozambique. The Indonesians managed to cross the entire Indian Ocean and the blacks were saying “muh dick” when they settled Madagascar.

  391. @Anon

    tut a tut,

    nice try. The point is the ownership. It doesn’t matter if a person uses the land or lets it grow weeds. You have no rights to is use without trhe owners permission — and that will more than likely mean compensation.

    In the case of land — as to Africa, the Europeans had no rights to make any law regarding the use of the land with the original owners permission and or compensation -0- and the original owners challenged the abuse of the agreements, the squaters simply used force to get their way

    It’s called theft.

    And just to be clear the use of anothers trademark, [patent, copywrite. without permission while in force regardless of how must they use said property cannot be stolen in the name of I have a better idea.

    That too is theft.

    appreciate your caveats — and I may very well be dumb — but I am certainly not going to condemn theft of another’s property.

    That’s called respect. Raking advantage or another’s vulnerability for self benefit even for the “common good”, — that’s called inhumane and greed.

  392. Malla…maybe you have seen this already

  393. Erebus says:
    @Okechukwu

    Okechukwu’s (and other’s) rants ignore historical realities.

    Many different peoples migrating southwards converged on S. Africa during the 17th to 19th centuries.Looking at the stream of incoming peoples, the idea that some count as “indigenous”, and others not is preposterous.

    As the migrations accelerated in the late 1700s, the ensuing territorial wars and displacements between settled and migrating/expanding peoples ultimately culminated in a great bloodbath called Mfecane, (aka: Difaqane or Lifaqane) which saw 1-2M slaughtered and countless more scattered in the early decades of the 1800s, leaving the central plains depopulated. No displacement by any European group in S. Africa came close to the level of slaughter, land theft, and displacement visited by so-called “indigenous” African groups on each other.
    So, how does “indigenousness” impact the “legitimacy” of one expanding/migrating “indigenous” group displacing/slaughtering another, or slaughtering a migrating people that settled somewhere before them? That is the historical question parrots like Okechukwu fail to address.

    That the Boer Trekkers arriving ca. 1850 from the south entered lands that were indeed largely empty, however populous they’d been 100 years previously, is indisputable. That the lands were emptied largely by wholesale slaughter between so-called “indigenous” groups is also indisputable.

    How does that make the Boers, given that they’d already been African for 2 centuries before the Trek, the villains in this story? More likely, it simply makes them the white tribe of Africa, and that the current ravings of the Okechukwus here are based on nothing more than racial hatred and, above all, envy. What Nietzsche called ressentiment. They were (and are) African, and their only sin is success. Their tragedy is that they cannot bring themselves to leave the land and life they built and still hold dear.

    One wonders what will happen when S. Africa finally collapses, and the southern migrations reverse as the “indigenous” try desperately to get the phuck out of there. A few more Mfecanes (on steroids) are baked into the cake, I’d warrant.

    Perhaps, a few decades from now, Chinese Trekkers will find empty lands to develop…

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    , @Okechukwu
  394. Erebus says:
    @Erebus

    Sorry, wrong map. Unfortunately, the preview pages don’t show it. Will get appropriate map later.

  395. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark P Miller

    the challenge for the “i told you so” crowd will be to show benevolence towards slow learners.

    A very important lesson, and we need not characterise them as ‘slow learners’ either.

    Many good people have a change of heart and of mind when their eyes are opened to new realities. Few of us are born whole, most of us learn along the way, and it behooves us to be kind and welcoming to any and all who would join us in our quest for freedom.

    The saddest thing is a person who cannot change his mind. He might as well be mired in cement. The greatest thing is that people can and do change, and we ought always to help them and even to salute them. They are not the only ones who need help. We do too.

  396. @Jeff Stryker

    I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.

  397. Malla says:
    @S

    Of course I know about Subhash Chandra Bose. He was of the same caste as me but he was ethnically Bengali. He was a good friend of Hitler and the Japanese and probably one of the few genuine Indian leaders.

    Not dissimilarity vast numbers of the British and Commonwealth troops who fought in WW II ever since, having seen what has transpired, have come to the conclusion there was something fundamentally not right about what the British Empire was fighting for in that disastrous war.

    The British people themselves were fooled by Churchill and the Zio pigs who controlled him. Hitler did not want any war, he was forced into it. It were the elite Jews and bankers who wanted war with Germany. Many British men died in that war, at a higher rate than Indians. 2.5 million Indians volunteered to fight for their Emperor, the largest in recorded history. They did not volunteer to fight for Britain alone but for the Empire and their Emperor.

  398. anarchyst says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that jews are “smarter” than average whites. The so-called IQ tests were formulated by jews so that their validity can be disputed.
    Jewish success is due to extensive networking while maintaining their insularity. Practices and behavior, much of which is illegal in the USA (due to anti-discrimination laws and statutes), is routinely practiced by jews, and to a lesser extent, moslems and other minorities.
    Jews, (even the Ashkenazics) exude mannerisms and behavior more akin to middle-eastern types, where criminality is not only condoned, but admired. Screwing a gentile out of money or goods is considered normal behavior by most jews, and to a lesser degree moslems.
    All one has to do is look at the “jews only” communities of New York State (Kiryas Joel and others) to see the amount of welfare assistance received while they openly flout “anti-discrimination” and “fair housing” laws in favor of their “own kind”. This behavior by whites would be quickly prosecuted and stamped out with the assistance of jews who reserve such practices (and look the other way) only for themselves.
    Russian (Ashkenazic) jews are especially proficient in Medicare (health care) fraud, stealing BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars with their Medicare fraud schemes.
    Jews are schemers and connivers of the highest order. THAT, my friend, is the ONLY reason for their success as their success is a result of knowing how to “game the system” and care not a wit about morality or honesty. Moslems not only are a close second, but will ally with the jews, if and when the time comes…
    Regards,

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  399. Truth says:
    @Them Guys

    You believe in evolution, but you question someone else’s intelligence?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  400. anarchyst says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The only problem with your assertion is that white gentiles would not be permitted to attend a jewish school. Otherwise, you are correct in stating that jews in the neighborhood are generally “a good thing” when compared to blacks.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  401. Truth says:

    So many simpletons….

    So little time.

    • Agree: Okechukwu
  402. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Anyways on a different note, kudos to the Zimbabwean authorities for deporting them back and upholding the law.

  403. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Communism is more Christian than Christianity itself.

  404. @anarchyst

    I attended a public elementary school in a heavily Jewish zip code with Jewish teachers and principle.

    They were harsh, but overall maintain a fairly better environment than a public school with blacks or Mestizos.

    My cousins attended a public school in Los Angeles, and it was a horror story.

  405. @anarchyst

    In my opinion that is why the Gentile business that come out of NYC like Trump are so shrewd and cunning. Any Goy who deals with them and manages to stay afloat or prosper is smart as hell.

    Trump seems nonplussed by the Jewish media and Left. He’s dealt with them in business his entire life. They’ve been trying to take him down since 2016. They won’t.

    Remember that Trump’s father came up at a time when German immigrants were despised by Jews New York City.

    I agree with you in fact. Because Jews are a tiny part of the US population and by dint of population whites produce many more high IQ people.

    But Anglo-Saxons have an atomized culture-it was sort of encouraged culturally in the US, with WASP heroes like Clint Eastwood or Gary Cooper or Chuck Norris as individualist heroes.

  406. Okechukwu says:
    @Them Guys

    Why is it that the only one single race known of, the negro, is who not only looks so close to real apes etc, but also Acts so much akin to an actual Ape or Baboon? I am serious here. No other race has such distinct features, unless you count other races that Mixed with negroes like Mexicans for example. It seems the more negro dna they have, the more they look like and act like a real Ape animal.

    Actually, no. Phenotypically and morphologicallly, black people are the farthest removed from apes, monkeys and other mammals.

    You can scour the entire Internet and you won’t find an ape or monkey with full lips. Gorillas and monkeys also have a classic Caucasian body plan whereby the torso is long and the legs are short. Black people have the opposite body plan. Gorillas have pronounced brow ridges, as do Caucasians.

    There are certain uniquely human features that are exclusive to black people. Hair, for example. You have the same hair type as horses, rats and golden retrievers. And when you shave that hair off, mammalian skin is usually pale or white. And speaking of hair, white people often are nearly as hairy as monkeys, exhibiting the exact same hair type. Conversely, black people are not predisposed to excessive body hair.

  407. Okechukwu says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Would you rather walk past a group of Jewish youths in the dark or black 18 year ones?

    It depends on the individuals in the group. The Jews might stab you in the neck and leave you there to die, while the blacks might help you with directions if you’re lost and even walk you safely to your location.

    This sort of stereotyping has been deadly, particularly to white women. Many white women who might otherwise have gotten rides (safely) with black men chose instead to ride with Ted Bundy. Those women are no longer with us.

    Are Jewish schools really that bad for Gentile students (Sexual assaults, robbed in the hallways, gangs getting your son to try meth at 14)? I’d bet the academic standards are higher than normal.

    Are you implying that this happens to “gentiles” in predominantly black schools? If so, where’s your proof?

    Molly Ringwald type JAPS don’t seek out a black thug to have a baby with because they watched BLACK PANTHER and cannot distinguish some film written by cokeheads over tequila shooters in LA with real life.

    Where do you people come up with this stuff? What planet are you writing from? It’s certainly not this planet.

    Beastie Boys were arguably the first whiggers and Jews did not rush out to imitate them-the word “Beastie Boy” is a slur that Jews use to describe Jewish whiggers. But rural whites roll around their suburb and tell people they are “straight gangster”.

    Rap is just a form of popular music. I listen to hip-hop, including classical gansta rap. So does Marco Rubio. So do white investment bankers, lawyers and doctors.

    Blacks and Mestizos represent an immediate danger on the street.

    On which planet? I encounter Blacks and Mestizos all the time and I don’t sense any danger. The problem is that many of you people live in your cloistered little communities separate and apart from the real world. All your information comes from Internet cesspools like this, which do at all reflect actual reality. That’s why your judgments and perceptions are so skewed such that you appear to be writing from another planet or some sort of alternative reality.

  408. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Shahsi Tharoor can be and many of his points have been debunked.
    A random Internet troll says so, well then it must be true.
    Only a complete nincompoop would attempt to assess GDP per capita in the year 1600. Fuck you’re an idiot.

    Man, were you always this stupid? The stupidity of this clown knows no bound. Have you even seen Shashi Tharoor’s video? He takes his claims from the same source I have. Angus Maddison. When the data suits you you dance around like a monkey clown but when it does not you start a gassing.
    You did not ask this question (how did they calculate?), when Shashi Tharoor smartly claimed that India’s share of World GDP was 27% in 1600?
    It is far more easier to calculate the GDP per capita than share of World GDP in the past, by studying a number of factors and indicators. Economists have calculated the average per capita income of Imperial Rome. How they got it, the details, go and ask them.

    http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/Nb7KkZ3yOVSNW3vHf9K1oM/World-history-by-per-capita-GDP.html

    Well, the growth of India’s GDP between 1500 and 1600 was 22.7%, between 1600 and 1700 it was 22.2% and between 1700 and 1820 it logged 21%. So it’s not as if there was any huge decline in the rate of growth. Of course, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that Indian growth, too, may have taken off if the country was not under the thumb of the British. But China continued to be an independent country, albeit one much plagued by the Western powers, and its rate of growth too during the period was nothing to be proud of. What the data seem to be saying is that the coming of the British did not, at least in the first 100 years of colonial rule, make much of a difference to the growth rate of the Indian economy. Was India a wealthy country before the British came? The numbers that have garnered the most attention have been his GDP estimates, because they fit in with the narrative of a strong India and China getting back their clout in the world economy. But what is that to the average Indian or Chinese citizen? What if the only reason these countries had such a high GDP in earlier times was because they had a larger population? That is what is brought out by Maddison’s estimates of GDP per capita, again in PPP terms in 1990 dollars. In 1 AD, India’s GDP per capita was $450, as was China’s. But Italy under the Roman Empire had a per capita income of $809. In 1000 AD, India’s per capita income was $450 and China’s $466. But the average of the West Asian countries, such as Turkey and Iraq, was much higher at $621. In terms of general prosperity, therefore, it was the Arab world that was doing well a millennium ago. The Caliphate in Baghdad was a centre of power at the time and both science and culture flourished. By 1500, though, new centres of prosperity had emerged. India’s per capita income was $550 and China’s $600 in 1500. The Arab world had declined. But standards of living in Western Europe at that time had already gone far ahead. Italy topped the table, with a per capita income of $1,100, the Netherlands following with a per capita income of $761. This was the Italy of the Renaissance, the Italy of Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, of Raphael and Titian. The UK was not far behind, with a per capita income of $714. By 1600, the centre of Europe had shifted northwards and the golden age of Holland had begun. Dutch per capita income was $1,381 in 1600, while Britain in Shakespeare’s time had a per capita income of $974. Recall that 1600 was the year the East India Company was founded. In contrast, India’s per capita income continued to be $550, while China’s was $600. Note that even Ireland, one of the poorest of Western Europe’s countries, had a per capita income of $615, higher than India’s and China’s. In short, the per capita GDP numbers mirror the changes in power, prosperity and cultural and scientific achievement. It wasn’t till 1981 that India had a per capita income of $977, beating that of Britain in 1600. And it wasn’t until 1993 that India’s per capita income of $1,399 surpassed what the Dutch had achieved in 1600.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  409. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    A random Internet troll says so, well then it must be true.

    Check out this debate where Shashi Tharoor’s points are debunked.

    BTW if you meet Tharoor ask him especially because he is a South Indian Malayalee Upper Caste Hindu about why the anti British ‘Indian Independence Movement’ was predominantly a upper caste movement? Why lower caste leaders like Dr. Ambedkar said that India was not ready for Independence yet when Independence was given? Dr. Ambedkar called the left Winged Labour PM who actually gave independence to India, Clement Atlee a fool. The Lower caste darker skinned Hindus considered the White British as saviors against Upper Caste Hindus.
    I will tell you what the Indian Independence Movement was
    It was Brahmins+ Baniya Merchants+ International Jews Vs British + Lower Caste Hindus + partially Muslims.

    Also ask him (Since he is from the Indian National Congress party) why Edwin Montagu, the Jewish Secretary of State of British India write in his Montagu-Clemsford report that the British Government would itself create Indian Nationalism. And it is only after his tenure, the Indian ‘Independence Movement’ becomes a mass movement.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  410. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Friedman was a moron, as I made abundantly clear to you here

    Nope he was right about most things.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/#comment-2479749

    In fact all the arguments you are regurgitating on this thread have already been thoroughly debunked by me recently on another Mercer article:

    OK here we go

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/essay/economic-lessons-from-the-raj

    IT’S A SAD paradox of our history that national independence came with the loss of the economic freedom India enjoyed for a century-and-a-half under British rule. That may come as a surprise to Indians brought up on nationalist myths about colonial rule plundering India, de- industrialising its economy and draining off its wealth. More recent economic studies show that colonial India, well ahead of other developing countries, had built up a trading and industrial base that would have made it the envy of the Eastern Tiger economies, had Nehruvian socialism not cut it off from global markets after 1947.

    Let’s take the myth of colonial plunder first. During the early phase of conquest, British generals and common soldiers undoubtedly acquired much war booty, then regarded as the legitimate spoils of victory. But their plunder was minimal compared with that of Indian contemporaries like the Marathas and Tipu Sultan or other foreign invaders from Iran and Afghanistan.

    Much before the East India Company took over Bengal, the Marathas had ravaged the province with six plundering raids in the course of a decade, killing off hundreds of thousands and exacting huge sums in chauth from its Mughal Nawab, estimated at Rs 2.5 crore per annum in today’s money. It was these attacks and the inability of the feeble Mughal administration to resist them that led the Hindu business community, led by the powerful Jagat Seth banking house, to plot the British takeover of 1756-64.

    Delhi was less fortunate than Bengal and suffered devastating invasions by Iran’s Nadir Shah, followed by the Afghan Ahmad Shah Abdali. According to contemporary estimates, Nadir Shah’s sack of Delhi in 1739 extracted in one month an estimated Rs 70 crore worth of plunder, many times anything creamed off by the Company Sahib during its most rapacious years in Bengal, and a blow from which the Mughal economy never recovered.

    Myth number two is that India declined from being an economic superpower under the Mughals to a de-industrialised colonial wasteland. True, Mughal India in 1700 accounted for 25 per cent of world Gross Domestic Product, a statistic often misquoted to prove economic success, except when one remembers that India also had 25 per cent of the world’s population. Far more revealing are statistics of per capita GDP compiled by the Maddison Project, generally accepted as the most authoritative guide to global prosperity from ancient Roman times to the present.

    The Maddison figures show that India’s per capita GDP was only half that of Britain’s in 1600, when the Mughal Empire was at its peak. Thereafter India witnessed steady economic decline, with its trade heavily dependent on textile exports increasingly unable to compete with cheaper European cloth. That’s because the Mughal economy offered neither incentives nor opportunity for labour-saving technological innovation. Eighty per cent of its territories were allocated to a rentier class of jagirdars, who creamed off any agricultural surplus for their own luxurious lifestyles. Because their tenure was restricted to a few years, they had no incentive to reinvest their rents in improved productivity. Capital costs were prohibitively high, with interest rates double the 6 per cent average in Britain and peaking as high as 40 per cent in pre-colonial Bengal.

    That’s not the propaganda of colonial apologists but the judgement of eminent Indian historians as diverse as the Marxist Irfan Habib and the nationalist Tapan Raychaudhuri. ‘Not only was the Mughal state its own gravedigger,’ concluded Habib, ‘but no new order was or could be created by the forces ranged against it.’

    Both Habib and Western economists like Angus Maddison have agreed that the Mughal land revenue system was far more exploitative than anything later devised by the Company Sahib or the Raj. It’s estimated that the Mughal elite creamed off an average 15 per cent of national income for its own consumption, compared with a mere 5 per cent by the British. Under the rapacious warlords who succeeded the Mughals, land revenue demands soared as high as 50 per cent of production to fund their local wars.

    India in 1750, on the eve of the British conquest, had no scientific or technological research, no machinery, no mechanical tools. Its labour-intensive textiles were bound to suffer dramatically, whoever ruled, once cheaper European industrial goods captured their markets. This economic challenge coincided with a period of fierce regional wars, following the collapse of Mughal authority, which devastated both agriculture and manufacturing across vast swathes of the Subcontinent. It was a situation which left the European-ruled ports as the only safe havens for Indian commerce, prompting a migration of business communities like Marwaris from declining inland cities like Benares and Mathura to Calcutta, Madras and Bombay.

    The first two decades of Company rule were undoubtedly a period when private trade carried on by its corrupt employees, in defiance of the Company’s own monopoly, damaged indigenous competitors. But the Company itself had no interest in such abuses, relying as it did on a steady supply of high quality Indian textiles that it could export to Europe. After 1773, when the British Parliament took direct oversight of the Company’s finances and administration, such privateering was firmly stamped out.

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  411. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Further from that link http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/essay/economic-lessons-from-the-raj

    Myth number three is that our colonial rulers deliberately de-industrialised India by flooding it with machine-made British goods at the expense of Indian manufacturing. The Company certainly had no links with the satanic mills of Lancashire, nor any interest in selling their products. Its own trading interests lay in selling Indian goods to Europe, so it lobbied hard to lower British tariffs on them and also to raise protective Indian tariffs. That it failed to do so was a measure of the extent to which Europe’s Industrial Revolution was inevitably turning the economic tide against traditional cottage industries worldwide.

    Even so, recent research has demonstrated that European industrial competition, though far from being a zero-sum game, created winners as well as losers. Cheaper factory-made British yarn may have hit Indian spinners but was a boon for weavers, who could now source cheaper supplies and produce a more competitive end-product. Although textile exports declined, domestic demand grew, with per capita cloth consumption increasing from 5.8 sq yards per year in 1750 to 7.4 sq yards in 1850. Handlooms held their own in the production of saris, but lost out to machine-made men’s clothing.

    By the 1850s, a massive road-building programme by the East India Company had given Indian trade 2,600 km of newly metalled highways, including, of course, the Grand Trunk Road

    Far from being wiped out by colonial competition, actual numbers in the handloom sector remained stable throughout most of the colonial period, ending with the same number in 1947 as in 1750. Cheap yarn imports also freed weavers from being tied to regional spinning centres and enabled them to move closer to the ports, where they forged new links with mercantile houses, sowing the seeds of India’s own infant textile factories. India’s population increased from 170 million in 1750 to 425 million in 1947, a sure indicator of reduced famines and improved public health.

    Myth number four is that imperial trade was a one-way flow, with cheap Indian raw materials extracted to supply British industry. The Raj created a Subcontinent-wide single market or customs union, which would have been the envy of the European Union today and which hugely expanded both internal and foreign trading opportunities for Indian merchants. By the 1850s, a massive road-building programme by the East India Company had given Indian trade 2,600 km of newly metalled highways, including, of course, the Grand Trunk Road. By 1913, India also had the world’s largest canal system and its fourth largest rail network.

    This new transport revolution transformed agriculture and commerce by enormously speeding up flows of goods and price information. The railways lowered freight costs by as much as 90 per cent in the mid-19th century, compared with their predecessor, the bullock-cart. Based on the volume of freight traffic in 1900, the social savings brought by rail amounted to as much as Rs 1.2 billion or 9 per cent of national income. Detailed statistical studies at Cambridge University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) have demonstrated that railways raised real incomes by an average of 16 per cent in the districts they reached.

    India’s foreign trade also benefitted from British command of the seas. Imperial naval protection helped Gujarati merchants like the Khojas trade with East Africa and the Gulf, establishing business networks that still survive. The other hugely lucrative opportunity for Indian merchants was the British-protected China trade in tea, cotton, indigo, jute and, notoriously, opium. The wealth from such commerce found its way into new banks and joint stock companies, established on the basis of newly introduced Western- style company law, and fed infant stock markets. The managing agency system, later reviled by Indian socialists, allowed scarce managerial skills to be pooled across companies, while protecting them from hostile takeovers.

    From 1913 to 1938, Indian manufacturing output grew at an annual 5.6 per cent, well above the world average of 3.3 per cent and a growth rate we would welcome today

    By the 1850s, India’s own industrial revolution was taking off, fuelled by a virtuous economic circle of faster internal transport, increased commerce and agricultural productivity, rapidly expanding export markets and the resulting much-needed capital accumulation in an economy long starved of venture capital. Far from blaming colonialism, development economists now agree that India’s chronic capital shortage was largely due to geographical and climatic factors.

    If globalisation is defined as the capacity to buy the knowledge, goods and services one needs in global markets, the British Empire led the modern world in the first great wave of globalisation in the 19th century. India was at its heart and a major beneficiary of the new openness and cosmopolitanism. The Empire offered free movement of capital and labour and relatively free trade in goods. A Bombay mill-owner could set up with borrowed British capital and the latest machinery and skilled foremen from Manchester. India’s first cotton mills opened in 1851, preceding Japan by 20 years and China by 40. They were soon beating Manchester at its own game, supplying 76 per cent of India’s textile demand by 1945.

    Not surprisingly, thriving merchant communities strongly backed the Company during the 1857 revolt, and the smooth supply of crucial goods from the ports helped turn the tide against the rebels. According to economic historian Tirthankar Roy of the London School of Economics: ‘The Indian merchant saw the Raj to be a force working for the kind of capitalism in which they had built a stake, a better bet than the remnants of Mughal feudal warlords who led the other side.’ British Indian cities, thanks to public and private endowments, soon sported some of the world’s best municipal services and world-class educational and medical institutions.

    Far from becoming a dumping ground for British products, India maintained a trade surplus with Britain throughout the colonial period, and export earnings paid for the services bought in from abroad by both public and private sectors. True, 19th century British governments at home and in India were committed to economic laissez faire and free trade and did little to protect indigenous industries. Nevertheless, young Indian industries like textiles and steel were given tariff protection during the world depression in the 1920s. From 1913 to 1938, Indian manufacturing output grew at an annual 5.6 per cent, well above the world average of 3.3 per cent and a growth rate we would welcome today.

    From the 1920s, the colonial government made India’s railways buy their entire rail requirement from Tata Steel at Jamshedpur. By 1935, India produced 50 per cent of all the world’s steel made outside Europe, North America and Japan. Firms like Tata Steel profited enormously from government contracts during both World Wars; and these profits were ploughed into new industries like sugar and paper. Between 1850 and 1940, employment in Indian factories went from near zero to two million, while per capita output of industrial goods rose by one-third, hardly a mark of de-industrialisation. India’s per capita industrial output at independence was higher than anywhere else in Asia except Japan, and more than half its exports were manufactures, not raw materials.

    Myth number five is that British governments, companies and officers drained off India’s wealth through foreign remittances of their ill-gotten gains. The actual fact is that by 1913, colonial India had attracted an enormous and very welcome injection of £380 million (£23 billion in today’s money) as inward investment by British capital. In the same year, the so-called ‘Home Charges’, the money remitted back to Britain by government and private transfers, amounted to the comparatively tiny sum of £11 million. Economists recognise that all foreign capital comes at a cost of foreign remittances. Calculated as an annual return on British investments in India, the Home Charges amounted to an average of only 3.4 per cent, a far lower return than British capital could have earned in world markets at the time. Amounting to an annual average of only 1.5 per cent of India’s national income, such remittances were hardly a drain of resources.

    ‘The so-called drain,’ writes Tirthankar Roy, to whose research I owe many of these figures, ‘was also a payment for skills, and it is impossible to imagine an economy short of skills dealing with the world without having to buy skills from abroad.’ Ironically, World War II allowed India to reverse the flow of remittances, with the imperial government paying New Delhi handsomely for the deployment of Indian troops abroad. The result was that at independence, the Reserve Bank of India held the enormous sterling balance of over £1 billion (£36 billion in today’s money), a golden handshake if ever there was one.

    …snip….

    The British left us with a 5 per cent share of world GDP, not a measure of economic decline since the much quoted 25 per cent of Mughal India, but of how exponentially world GDP had expanded with industrialisation and globalisation. World trade had stagnated during the inter-war years, but was poised for a major take-off in the 1950s, and one which India might have led with its existing trading advantages.

  412. Malla says:
    @Malla

    BTW if you do not know 1 crore is equal to 10 million.

    So

    According to contemporary estimates, Nadir Shah’s sack of Delhi in 1739 extracted in one month an estimated Rs 70 crore worth of plunder,

    becomes

    According to contemporary estimates, Nadir Shah’s sack of Delhi in 1739 extracted in one month an estimated Rs 700,000,000 worth of plunder,

    Similarly

    Much before the East India Company took over Bengal, the Marathas had ravaged the province with six plundering raids in the course of a decade, killing off hundreds of thousands and exacting huge sums in chauth from its Mughal Nawab, estimated at Rs 2.5 crore per annum

    becomes

    Much before the East India Company took over Bengal, the Marathas had ravaged the province with six plundering raids in the course of a decade, killing off hundreds of thousands and exacting huge sums in chauth from its Mughal Nawab, estimated at Rs 25,000,000 per annum.

  413. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Man, were you always this stupid? The stupidity of this clown knows no bound. Have you even seen Shashi Tharoor’s video? He takes his claims from the same source I have. Angus Maddison. When the data suits you you dance around like a monkey clown but when it does not you start a gassing.

    Shashi Tharoor isn’t the only source, you ignorant buffoon. He is just one of innumerable sources, including Britons themselves, who assert, with abundant verifiable evidence, that Britain raped and looted India. Otherwise, why was Britain there? For their health? Empires don’t expend blood and treasure to conquer unless there’s booty to be had. That was the Roman model which Britain emulated.

    Are you seriously denying the plunder of Bengal after the battle of Plassey?

    Bengals plunder gifted the British Industrial Revolution

    American historian Brooke Adams has recorded that the Bengal plunder from the Nawabs treasury was so excessive that it fuelled Britains Industrial Revolution from 1760 and changed the worlds lifestyle forever.

    The spoils from Bengal boosted Britains economy, but its fallout was de-industrialisation for India. Once England established industrial capital, it needed markets for selling its products. It was again Bengal, the first Indian region the British colonised, that was forced to absorb these goods so England could sustain its Industrial Revolution. The drain of wealth into Britain destroyed Indias industries, and impoverishment led to a string of famines. Historian RC Dutt writes, The people of Bengal had been used to tyranny, but had never lived under an oppression so far reaching in its effects, extending to every village market and every manufacturers loom. They … had never suffered from a system which touched their trades, their occupations, their lives so closely. The springs of their industry were stopped; the sources of their wealth dried up. This domineering British control pushed India hundreds of years behind in economic development.

    https://www.financialexpress.com/archive/bengals-plunder-gifted-the-british-industrial-revolution/576476/

    But that was just the beginning:

    Forget Kohinoor, The British Looted Greater Treasures From India

    https://swarajyamag.com/world/forget-kohinoor-the-british-looted-greater-treasures-from-india

    British museums shine thanks to all the loot from India

    https://indianexpress.com/article/research/british-museums-shine-thanks-to-all-the-loot-from-india/

    A star of London’s Crown Jewels, the Indian gem has a bloody history of colonial conquest

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-koh-i-noor-diamondand-why-british-wont-give-it-back-180964660/

    It’s a myth that British imperialism benefited one of its richest colony, India, when in reality it drained all its wealth and resources.

    https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/5-Ways-the-British-Empire-Ruthlessly-Exploited-India-20170425-0033.html

    For 300 years Britain has outsourced mayhem. Finally it’s coming home

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/jun/08/british-empire-colonies-banks-reform

    Over 70 years after its Raj ended, Britain continues to loot Indians

    https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/jugglebandhi/over-70-years-after-its-raj-ended-britain-continues-to-loot-indians/

    The British East India company – putting looting into the lexicon

    http://www.elginism.com/similar-cases/the-british-east-india-company-putting-looting-into-the-lexicon/20150305/7810/

    The Arab world had declined. But standards of living in Western Europe at that time had already gone far ahead. Italy topped the table, with a per capita income of $1,100, the Netherlands following with a per capita income of $761. This was the Italy of the Renaissance, the Italy of Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, of Raphael and Titian. The UK was not far behind, with a per capita income of $714.

    Bullshit. Europe was literally hell on earth at that time. I dare say they had the lowest standard of living of any region on the planet. That’s why people fled that shithole in the largest human wave migration ever recorded. Hunter gatherer populations everywhere lived better. At least they didn’t die from famine or from plagues caused by filth.

    Europeans lived a miserable lifestyle that can in no way be equated with high living standards or high GDP per capita. These are the features that characterized European life in the 15th, 16th, 17th centuries and beyond:

    Social, political, and economic inequality due to feudalism
    Fragile food supply and famine
    Poor health and the spread of infectious diseases
    Uncertain economy
    Overpopulation
    Dangerous standards of living in urban and rural areas
    Child victimization
    Religious intolerance
    Constant warfare

    When explorers arrived in the Americas, did they find unhealthy, wretched, starving people? No, they certainly did not. The people were in fucking paradise compared to the situation back in Europe. So what was the real per capita GDP of those Native Americans as compared to Europeans? An idiot like you would say the Europeans were wealthier. But in actual fact, the Native Americans were by several orders of magnitude wealthier than Europeans.

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  414. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/#comment-2479749

    In fact all the arguments you are regurgitating on this thread have already been thoroughly debunked by me recently on another Mercer article:

    Obama Ignores Genocide In South Africa

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/obama-ignores-genocide-in-south-africa/

    The points made are flawed. It was not British policies but in ability of handloom industries to compete with machine power which caused the decline in the famous Bengal clothing Industry. Do you know how many European traditional handloom weavers faced the same fate because of cheaper machine made cloth? Hundreds of thousands. Heard about the Luddite movement?

    Check out this paper
    The Impact of British Industrial Revolution on a Bengal Industry

    http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol19-issue4/Version-4/C019441116.pdf

    Conclusion

    The facts described in this article shows that the period under review represented economically an
    important phase when Industrial Revolution caused a drastic change of the production system in England whereas the Bengal industry still follow the traditional age old system of production. In this period a gradual collapse of the cotton industry of Bengal occurred and the cotton industry of England which remained far from the competition with the Bengal industry for a long time had come in the leading position.
    Here we have analyzed the technological factor which should be judged to find out the main cause for the victory of English cotton goods over the Bengal muslin and calicoes. We had discussed the labour cost of production after industrial revolution also. The labour cost of production after the Industrial Revolution in England had become lower than that of Bengal although the wage rate was very high in England.
    If, we consider the oppression on Bengal weavers in one hand and tariff protection to English cotton industry on the other hand, we see that after tariff policy and oppression the Bengal cotton textile industry remained in buoyant position more than hundred years. So, this factor was not very significant.
    So, the oppression and the prohibitive tariff ware not the leading factors for the decay of the Bengal industry. Although, these certainly had some prejudicial effects on the Bengal cotton industry. The point is that even if there had been no hostile tariffs and no oppression the defeat of the Bengal industry could not have been prevented long on account of the mighty force set in motion by the mechanical revolution. It was Industrial Revolution, which enabled England to supplant the Bengal cotton manufactures not only outside, but within our own country itself. Improvements and inventions of machinery made it possible by the British industry to produce muslin and calicoes in imitation of the Bengal at such lower prices so that it enabled to surpass the Bengal cotton producers both in terms of prices and quality.
    So, the technological innovation in Great Britain was the main cause which led to the decay of the
    prosperous and glorious cotton industry of Bengal.

  415. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Check out this debate where Shashi Tharoor’s points are debunked.

    Tharoor won the debate. That assessment is shared by most of the YouTube comments. Notice your fellow Uncle Tom constantly has to consult his laptop. Tharoor, however, speaks fluidly and extemporaneously, without a laptop and without notes. One is conversant in the subject matter, the other is not.

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  416. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Shashi Tharoor isn’t the only source, you ignorant buffoon. He is just one of innumerable sources,

    They are all spewing the same bullshit. The link I gave debunks them all.

    including Britons themselves, who assert, with abundant verifiable evidence, that Britain raped and looted India.

    Lefties desperately want this non sense theory to be true so that they can explain why Industrialized nations of the West did not go Commie. Have you read Karl Marx. He claimed that Communism is the next state for a Capitalist society and that it is the state of highly industrial society? As usual the gas bag Marx came out wrong, Western Industrialized nations like Britain, France etc…did not go commie. So how do you explain that? Tyhe commies cutely came up with another bullshit theory that Western Capitalist nations are using their colonies for dumping their production excess and that is keeping capitalism alive. This theory became the root of Europe looting colonies theory which every tin pot third world ‘nationalist’ adopted only to ruin their own nations. In India this theory was first adopted by Dadabhoi Norowji, a rich Parsi gentleman who got his brain destroyed by Socialist professors in London. Soon that theory was been prated by every rabble rouser in every street corner in India. But it is nonsense.

    As far as the Kohinoor diamond, the British won against the Sikhs and the diamond was theirs. Before that the Sikhs took it from the Afghans by right of conquest and before that the Afghans took it from Delhi by right of conquest. So I do not see what the problem is all about.

  417. chris m says:

    Cyril Ramaphosa.

    i probably remember this guy back from the 1980s.
    (and i am sure Ms Mercer’s father probably also knows this guy quite well, perhaps personally)

    back then he (in the 1980s) probably seemed quite reasonable regarding the struggles against apartheid.

    now what?, Apartheid has gone for good and they’ve got majority rule, and he’s (or at least his party has) been in power for the past 25 years, and his demands seem to be like that of Napoleon (the head pig) in a rerun of Animal Farm.

    Cyril Ramaphosa has morphed into quite an hypocrite over the past 35 years.
    (or was he always like this?)

    now he’s showing his true colours.

  418. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The history of the Indian economy under British rule is far more complex than what many would have us believe http://www.livemint.com/Sundayapp/L0EQO6nzQo78NvpNoAO9xM/The-economic-legacy-of-the-British-Raj.html
    Sumit Mishra
    First Published: Sat, Aug 15 2015. 11 30 PM IST
    In a now famous speech at Oxford University , former Union minister Shashi Tharoor made a scathing attack on the former British empire. Tharoor eloquently argued that the British Raj had caused untold suffering to India and the Indian economy, and asked the British for reparations. While Tharoor deservedly received praise for his wit and eloquence, the narrative of exploitation that he spun is at best incomplete, and misleading at worst. Recent research by economic historians suggests that the British Raj was not an unmitigated disaster for India, as it was thought to be by earlier historians and economists. While colonial rule in India had harmful aspects, such as the low provision of public goods, it also helped galvanize Indian industry, making the country a vital part of global supply chains. For quite a long time, the dominant view about the British Raj in India was quite similar to what Tharoor had put forth: British rule impoverished the Indian economy by draining resources through taxation, and through a process of “de-industrialization” that robbed millions of artisans of their livelihoods. The earliest and most influential proponents of this view were two prolific writers, Dadabhai Naoroji and Romesh Dutt. Although these two gentlemen did not advocate an end to British rule, their writings turned into powerful weapons in the hands of Indian nationalists. The birth of “economic nationalism”—or the idea that India needed to be free because foreigners had ruined its economy—gave a boost to India’s freedom struggle, but it proved detrimental to a dispassionate assessment of economic history, and led India to close its doors to the world in the first few decades following Independence, argued renowned economic historian Tirthankar Roy in a recently published essay in the Economic and Political Weekly. The contributions of Marxist scholars such as Paul Baran and Samir Amin bolstered this view and led many influential leaders of the developing world to view openness with suspicion. The rich world became so by exploiting poor countries such as India, the Marxist scholars argued, and the narrative of drain and de-industrialization in India acquired even greater legitimacy. Roy argues that de-industrialization was a myth, simply because factory production and employment had taken firm roots in British India by the early 20th century and grew at a rapid pace in the first half of the 20th century. “Between 1850 and 1940, employment in Indian factories increased from near zero to two million,” writes Roy. “Real GDP at factor cost originating in factories rose at the rate of 4-5% per year between 1900 and 1947. These rates were comparable with those of the two other emerging economies of the time, Japan and Russia, and without a close parallel in the tropical world of the 19th century. Cotton textiles were the leading industry of the 19th century. Outside Europe and the US, 30% of the cotton spindles in the world were located in India in 1910. Within the tropical zone, 55% of the spindles were in India.” The creation of the three great port cities of Calcutta, Bombay and Madras spurred India’s industrial boom, as it helped Indian merchants and producers to integrate with the global economy, writes Roy. This would not have been possible without the supply of skills and technology that the European settlers provided, Roy contends. Engineers, managers and partners from abroad who joined Indian firms to work under Indian bosses were integral to the success of Indian industry.

  419. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Tharoor won the debate. That assessment is shared by most of the YouTube comments.

    Not true. Many of Tharoors points were decimated.

    That assessment is shared by most of the YouTube comments.

    Obviously they would want that. Emotions over facts like you.

  420. Okechukwu says:

    Western Industrialized nations like Britain, France etc…did not go commie. So how do you explain that?

    But they did go commie. Even the US went commie. They just didn’t go as far as the true believers. They only went far enough to survive and forestall a complete commie takeover. The New Deal and Great Society in America and the social welfare state in Europe were all commie inspired. Unbridled darwinian capitalism was untenable and, left unchecked, would’ve led to revolution, even in the United States. The infusion of communism, in effect, saved capitalism by creating a hybrid system.

    Tyhe commies cutely came up with another bullshit theory that Western Capitalist nations are using their colonies for dumping their production excess and that is keeping capitalism alive. This theory became the root of Europe looting colonies theory which every tin pot third world ‘nationalist’ adopted only to ruin their own nations.

    But the colonialists did plunder resources. That’s why they were there. They did enforce slave or near slave labor. They only returned back to the colonies the wealth needed to perpetuate their presence and continued looting. How can anyone argue against this thesis with a straight face?

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  421. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    “Hunter gatherer populations everywhere lived better. At least they didn’t die from famine or from plagues caused by filth.

    Europeans lived a miserable lifestyle that can in no way be equated with high living standards or high GDP per capita. ”
    You would wish that but facts are facts.
    Anyways, check out this grand Cathedral

    This is the Lincoln Cathedral in Lincoln, England. Building commenced in 1072 and continued in several phases throughout the medieval period. It was the tallest building in the world for 238 years (1311–1549). It was the first building in the world taller than the Great Pyramid of Giza. But even then it was not the largest cathedral in England, York Cathedral was even larger.

    To build something like this you need
    1] Lots of wealth
    2] Large skilled labour force
    3] Architects, skilled stonemasons, skilled carpenters etc… in ample quantities.

    This was built before the age of colonization. So the tallest building in the World, first building taller than the pyramids, was not built in China or Japan or India or Baghdad or Damascus but in England, in Europe, BEFORE the age of colonization. This is when a large part of the African populations were capable of only building mud huts and kraals.

    Europeans were superior in Ship building and Naval navigation
    There was a agricultural revolution in Europe in the 12th Century, European agriculture was superior to Middle Eastern agricultural practices.
    Europe developed plow harness for horses which gave even advantage in agriculture as well as using horses for over oxen used throughout most of the rest of the world. Europeans also developed the Horse shoe further making horses more effective.
    Medieval Europe also produces swivel axes and brakes for wheels thus Europeans of the 12th century were already using superior wagons for transport. While Arabs and Turks were still using pack animals.
    These technologies were taken to the Middle East by the Crusaders bringing benefits to the Middle Easterners.
    Ibn Jubayr, an Arab Chronicler in 1183, lamented that Muslims living under European Frankish rule lived far better and prosperous lives than those Muslims who lived under their own Muslim Lords. Under European lords there was more fairness and justice for the Muslims.
    Muslims adopt certain European military objects such as visors and vambraces. Europeans had heavier superior lances.
    Europeans used complicated castle building techniques and siege technology.

    Ibn Khaldun, the great Arab scholar who lived in Al Andalus and North Africa. He is widely considered as a forerunner of the modern disciplines of historiography, sociology, economics, and demography. He is best known for his book, the Muqaddimah or Prolegomena (“Introduction”). The book influenced 17th-century Ottoman historians like Kâtip Çelebi, Ahmed Cevdet Pasha and Mustafa Naima, who used the theories in the book to analyze the growth and decline of the Ottoman Empire. He is considered to be one of the greatest philosophers of the Middle Ages

    In his book Muqaddimah, he writes
    “There, a portion of the island of England is situated. It is a large, far-flung island which contains a number of cities and is the seat of a magnificent realm. “
    This was written in the 1300s, centuries before the age of colonisation. We already learn that England was a magnificent realm with a number of cities.

    One more great book is by the great traveler Mirza Abu Taleb Khan, one of the first Indians (Persian from his father’s side) to go to Europe. This was in 1800. You should read his book Masir Talib fi Bilad Afranji, (The Travels of Taleb in the Regions of Europe)
    Firstly he was a Mirza, which means he was an aristocrat/nobleman, he was also Lord of the difficult region of Bundelkhand. He had seen some of the best jewelry and wealth of the world (had to if you were a Mirza of India) and had many contacts with the finest minds in the Islamic World as well as amongst Hindus, a man of learning.
    In his book the Mirza writes about England
    1] The British are far superior and talented in navigational skills and great seamen
    2] Britain is a very rich country
    3] Beautiful buildings and great wealth of England with great Jewels
    4] British people very hard working and productive
    5] Britain has superior knowledge, he was extremely impressed with their knowledge of medical science.
    6] Charity for the poor
    7] British are skilled in technology and inventing and using machines
    8] Fox hunting with horses and dogs
    9] Honesty of British shop keepers
    etc….and many more
    Full of praises.
    Now before you start jumping all around like an ass screaming Uncle Tom, you should know that he also criticizes many things about the British. For example, he writes that though Anglo Saxon justice is good he still feels Islamic Sharia is better. At the end of his writings about Britain he list 10 good things and 10 bad things about the British. In other words, he criticized the country as he saw it too. So cannot call him biased.
    He planned to go to Turkey on his way back to India to meet the Padishah, the Turkish Emperor, the Caliph of all Islam. So he was some important man to get an audience with the Ottoman Emperor.
    He says that when he came to France he felt, Britain was heaven and France in comparison was hell. But when he went to Italy, he felt that now France was heaven and Italy felt like hell. When he went to Turkey, now Italy was heaven and Turkey felt like hell and so on.

    Basically, Europe needed no colonies for its Industrial revolution. The revolution would have happened anyways, colonies or no colonies.

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  422. @Jeff Stryker

    This funny! I may have misunderstood you man. I will take back and hold on till i grasp you more!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  423. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    But they did go commie. Even the US went commie. They just didn’t go as far as the true believers. They only went far enough to survive and forestall a complete commie takeover. The New Deal and Great Society in America and the social welfare state in Europe were all commie inspired. Unbridled darwinian capitalism was untenable and, left unchecked, would’ve led to revolution, even in the United States. The infusion of communism, in effect, saved capitalism by creating a hybrid system.

    I mean, not fully commie like the Soviet Union. And these theories came out much before the new deal. What do you think Cultural Marxism is about? It is to bring about Communism slowly, frog boiling method. Whay are they bringing immigrants into the West?
    BTW Communism is not about the equal money, it is about total control. You do not even own your house, the government owns everything and if there are powerful people behind the scenes running the Government, as is very common, you can get absolute power. That is why the Oligarchs prefer it and want it and eventually according to their plans this is what will be imposed on the World if you ask me. A mixture of Corporatism and Communism. But I could be wrong.
    Anyways the best economic system is combining elements of socialism and free market economics. But how you mix the two is the art.

    But the colonialists did plunder resources. That’s why they were there. They did enforce slave or near slave labor.

    Not enough to be the reason for their wealth today. Higher worker productivity is the main thing that drove wealth in the advanced countries. You want Nigeria to have a much higher per capita Income?
    Concentrate on increasing worker productivity, discipline, higher morality (less cheating), stability and less tragedy of the commons. Same with India. This blaming of the West for everything has harmed the Third World the most. I am not saying the West is perfect , it has it’s flaws but why take the flaws? But the nationalist leaders of the third world employed many stupid policies because of their irrational hatred for the West.
    China came up by increasing discipline and increasing worker productivity. Now the West is losing discipline and it is going down.
    Forget IQ and all that. Even if it is true or it is false, there is no point in fretting over it. Discipline and increased productivity can push a nation’s standard of living up.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  424. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Anyways, check out this grand Cathedral

    Come on, you can’t be this dumb. How did the vast majority or average Europeans live? Their lives were hellish.

    Today there are glistening skyscrapers and billionaires in every third world country. But how do average people live?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  425. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    “Forget IQ and all that. Even if it is true or it is false, there is no point in fretting over it. Discipline and increased productivity can push a nation’s standard of living up.”

    You got that wrong. There is no way that Nigeria or any other African country can become a decent place where most people (Africans first) would want to live w/o those countries building a cognitive elite.

    It’s not about IQ worship but w/o a cognitive elite you won’t have people in power that understand that the key is “Discipline and Productivity.”

    With Mugabe or w/o Mugabe nothing is going to change in Zimbabwe because the dumb and corrupt elite will still in power.

    Imagine that those in power in Zimbabwe could admit the obvious and would ask China to help them build a ruthless meritocratic system?

    In less than a generation you will have a decent and livable country.

    Of course all this is wishful thinking because those children who are in power in Africa want to keep their power and they want their children to succeed them.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  426. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Bowman

    “Needless to say, it is not in any sense anything whatever to do with traditional Christianity…”

    Needless to say, you’ve trotted out the infamous No True Christian fallacy.

  427. Them Guys says:
    @Truth

    Wrong. I don’t believe in evolution like Darwin promoted. I don’t believe humans or anything else, simply over time evolved into what it is now. Human man did not evolve from apes etc. However, with all we do know and see with typical avg negroes…Not all negroes, just maybe, 90% or so, it appears that perhaps some where in distant past eras, a African negro woman or man mated with a chimp or baboon or ape. Then produced an offspring of an half human + half monkey and allowed it to survive and thrive. Once even one single such example happened, if it did happen, is all it would take to end up today with a billion more descendants from that 1/2+1/2 ape+negro mix.

    Biblically it basically states in OT eras that some form of dna and race mixtures happened between angels and women to create the, Giants race. Just maybe angels & human women was not the only things being mixed eh?….It states as main reason for Noahs flood was due to everything God created had been totally fucked up. With nobody else but, Noah and his immediate family members being still as first created by God to be…IE: a 100% Non dna or race mixed Humans. While all else was messed up via Satan and his corrupted fallen angels doing those dna and racial mixtures.

    It may have also included even Plant life as well as animals of many or every type also were dna mixed. That sure would cause a great need in gods eyes to mainly destroy all of creation, Except for Noah and his, still 100% Human family on the Ark boat.

    Folks can debate how much of the flood story is accurate or not. But there is plenty of evidence and much based on the fact that most every race and nation and society, had a very similar great flood story. And from back when no msm nor other major means of spreading news yet existed. Yet many or most societies had a same or similar story belief.

    Also, while most of todays apostate pastors preach that, when Christ claimed that in the last days/end times, events would be… As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the last days era.

    Those apostate pastors usually say it speaks of how we see so much perversions and faggot and dyke/lezbo sex issues today…Well yes that would describe events in Noahs days too I suppose. But maybe the real true meaning is far deeper. Maybe what Christ was really alluding to was how in Noahs days prior to flood, so much Satanic dna and racial mixings were being done, it fully de-constructed and forever changes Gods orig creation of living things and beings.

    That sure would well describe Todays much talked of issues with many scientists desires and attempts to create test tube beings, Chimeras, and all the current craze of dna mixes in Food plant life eh. DNA Corn, Cows and Pigs filled with every antibiotic and chemicals scientists can conjure up. Even now we see huge push for Trangenders!….”Hey mommie I aint certain if I am a Boy or a Girl?!!”…..No problem kid…Just stand up, pull front of pants aside and Look see if anythings hanging down here?…If Yes..You a Boy!…If No, then you a Girl….See that was very easy, eh.

    Weather or not this is accurate? I dont know. Nobody yet does. But its something to ponder on. And I dont know where you got that I believe in evolution?…Nope. Not Darwins kind. Maybe a certain amount of evolution changes over time due to humans and animals adapt to changes in areas lived in etc. That I can consider as maybe valid evolution. Not man came from germs from Mars, that changed to Pond scum, changed to tiny frogs, to fishes, to land buggs to animals to apes and finally into human man…..Nonsense. From atheistic people desperate to find a proof of No God ever existed. Once man or woman, maintains a real No real god belief and practice, then Everything is possibe and soon made A-Ok and legal. Which is just what Satan best functions with.

    PS: Spend a bit of time in Detroit, observing Negores, and no sane or honest observer person can deny that I am very correct in saying how, Nobody else But Negroes so Look like and even more so, Act like a real live Ape or Baboon. So…Just why and how did it happen that way, eh? And if one needs better proof?…Visit Detroit and the Detroit ZOO and observe both Negroes and ZOO’s Caged Apes and Baboons and Chimps….Then….Simply…Compare.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Truth
    , @Josep
  428. @Ben Sampson

    BRIT

    Jews are not the only powerful group in the US that has made life difficult for you.

    Irish-Americans, some of them Senators, were the ones enabling the IRA. The support for these terrorist fiends included senators in New York and Boston.

    Even Reagan was notoriously lax because he was an Irish-American.

    In my opinion the fact that Irish-Americans were a powerful influential group politically and financially near the centers of US power on the East Coast made things far worse in the UK than Jews.

    • Replies: @Malla
  429. bj says:

    “The excesses of the London Missionary Society made one thing clear. The true enemy of the white man in Africa was not the black man in Africa. The true enemy of the white man in Africa was white men in Europe who lived in safety and comfort while they moralized about those of the fellow Western Christians desperately fighting for their own existence.” Harry Booyen

    The Afrikaners were purchased in 1814, along with the Cape Province for 3,000,000 pounds, from Holland, in a treaty settlement at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. They became subjects of the British Empire! There is no right of return for the Afrikaners. They are African as much as American blacks are American. It is disingenuous to argue the Afrikaners should return to Europe. They live and die in Africa.

    The Afrikaners are preparing for war as their ancestors fought the KhoeKhoe, Xhosa, Zulu, and British. They are capable of fighting and negotiating with their African fellows; if the Christian self-hating whites, the Jews, the oligarchs, and the communists keep out of African affairs.

    Harry Booyen’s Afrikaner family has been in Africa since the sixteenth century and his family history is the history of the Afrikaner people. This book is the best source I know on the history of South Africa. It is as honest and decent as Booyen’s Afrikaner people!

    https://www.amazon.com/AmaBhulu-Birth-Death-Second-America/dp/0992159016/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  430. Watching says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Haha, just look at this intelligent comment. You obviously have no knowledge of the subject on witch you speak, and are as dumb as a rock. Three sentences are enough to waste on a halfwit racist clown, so see ya Homer.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  431. @Watching

    Why do you fixate on me?

    • Replies: @Truth
  432. @bj

    bj IMMIGRATION & REALITY

    I was in London looking for decent work and trying to immigrate to Australia in my 20′s along with many South African Dutch.

    Prior to immigrating to Detroit-a terrible mistake, as it turns out-my one German grandmother spent a few years in Norwich, UK and was a naturalized citizen.

    Along with many South Africans I looked into permanent residency in the UK (This was in 2000 prior to Muslims destroying the place) and took the points test for Australia and New Zealand.

    No dice at all. They would not have me. Period. The whites in these nice, comfortable Anglo-Saxon countries did not give a fat rat’s ass that whites in US rustbelt cities and Boers were stuck in internal third worlds. To some degree, they felt that it was our fault. No sympathy at all.

    Asylum seekers from Lebanon or Sudan…more than welcome and I am sure their toddler then are now rapists and gang members roaming the streets of Australian suburbs.

    But college educated Boers or Americans. Nah, didn’t want us.

    Because I was in Earl’s Court with Boers we commiserated, trading horror stories about black crime and people we knew who’d been victim of it.

    British South Africans had all moved back to London by then. They were mostly 2nd or 3rd generation Brits who could do so, possessing UK passports.

    But Holland wanted nothing to do with Boers. The Boers are not “Dutch” anyhow. They are descended mainly from Germans and French Protestants or Flemish emigrants and have no genetic link to any European country in particular.

    Luckily the US still has vast physical space so whites can move 40 miles away and most Hood Rats lack the initiative to do so because they are always pregnant, in jail or high on crack cocaine.

  433. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Come on, you can’t be this dumb. How did the vast majority or average Europeans live? Their lives were hellish.

    Yes but in that way, in the past, the life of most humans was harsh. it still is. You say do not go on these Cathedrals, the life of the average European was hard. True, but the lives of majority of humans on earth was not exactly easy. King Musa had tons of gold but that does not mean all of his subjects were millionaires. The Mughal emperors lived in great luxury but that does not mean all his subjects were kings and queens. The industrial revolution brought about the potential to increase wealth enormously by higher productivity using machines.

    As far as many tribal peoples having a better, healthier life than many settled peoples, well that may be true. But most of the descendants of those tribal people today want the convenience of modern technology. And maybe most Native Americans and Africans were healthy but the same cannot be said about native Australians. Captain Cook said that they were the most wrenched lot he had ever seen in the world.
    Maybe because most of Australia is harsh desert unlike the more fruitful Africa and the Americas.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  434. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Today there are glistening skyscrapers and billionaires in every third world country. But how do average people live?

    Point taken. Good point. My point was that there was enough wealth in Europe for the Industrial revolution. BTW what was the per capita income of Britain in 1600? $974. Italy under the Roman Empire had a per capita income of $809. Today most third world nations have a per capita income far higher than that. Nigeria and Sri Lanka have per capita incomes much higher than that today.

  435. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    IQ is a bell curve and an average. Many people would have an IQ higher than that average mean. I have met high IQ Africans myself when I was studying in Europe. It is just that the proportion of the population above a particular IQ is smaller in many tropical countries.
    But discipline, morality and increasing productivity can go a long way in improving the standard of living of most of our third world countries. You do not need to have extremely high per capita incomes of first World countries you know. A per capita income of Brazil would be a big help for a country like India which is today only one tenth.

    Well yes most leaders are corrupt. Many uneducated people actually support shitty people as leaders. Many slum dwellers in India actually support and elect thugs and goons. They still have that feudal mindset and want a big chief, a big protector.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @anonymous
  436. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Irish-Americans, some of them Senators, were the ones enabling the IRA.

    The chosen tribe had their hands in the IRA too.

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2018/07/10/eamon-de-varela-irelands-talmudic-taoiseach/

    EAMON DE VALERA IRELAND’S TALMUDIC TAOISEACH
    The first President of the Republic at 1921 and a big time IRA guy, “Irishman” Eamon De Valera came from the Valera family of Sephardic Jews

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  437. Malla says:
    @Them Guys

    But I have met intelligent and decent black people. I agree that a bigger proportion of blacks are violent and all that, but there are some black people who are good, kind and well manured.

  438. @Malla

    MALLA

    That’s like suggesting that Brahmin are behind the Ukraine neo-Nazi war with Russia at the moment because the Aryan originated somewhere in the Ukraine/Black Sea area and invented the Swastika.

    Kind of a stretch.

  439. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    Mugabe is obviously a piece of trash. The nation of Ghana actually had a good leader called Jerry Rawlings in the past. He was a airforce officer and brought a lot of stability into the country. He was half White (Scottish from his father’s side) but he was proud of being an African and married a black Ghanian. He brought a lot of stability in Ghana.
    Similarly the leadership of Botswana is pretty good too. Botswana is quite a decent country with a higher per capita income than most Sub Saharan African countries. I have heard praises from European ex pats about the country.
    Angola is developing fast too but the dos Santos elite family looted up a lot of the oil money. They even bought a media company in Portugal to prevent media criticism in the Portuguese speaking world. Now the new government is charging them for all the pilfering.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  440. Malla says:
    @Them Guys

    Have you gone through this book?

    https://www.amazon.com/Erectus-Walks-Amongst-Richard-Fuerle/dp/1604581212

    Erectus Walks Amongst Us by Richard Fuerle

    You could get the book free here in pdf format

    https://analyseeconomique.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/richard-d-fuerle-erectus-walks-amongst-us.pdf

    Read it, very interesting.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  441. Malla says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Thanks I had always suspected that. Looks like Native Americans are a mix of Mongoloids and black aborigines as well as early Caucasoids. Mixing with aborigines could explain why native Americans score lower than North East Asians in IQ.
    People of the Indian subcontinent are a Caucasoid – aborigine mixed race with a little East Asian thrown in. And people from the Indian subcontinent score lower than Whites on IQ too.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  442. bj says:

    “The Constitutional Court of South Africa recently ruled that 300,000 gun owners must turn in their firearms.”

    “In South Africa’s case, farmers and their workers are already suffering ongoing attacks against their property. One could only imagine what it would be like for these persecuted farmers once they are stripped of their right to self-defense.”

    “South Africa should serve as a fair warning to Americans of the dangerous consequences gun control poses.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/land-confiscations-loom-south-africa-rules-300000-gun-owners-turn-over-their

  443. @Anonymous

    People can call him a troll. But isn’t it true that many Christians are rendered suicidally naive by Christian universalist and “equality” notions?

    Isn’t Christian doctrine used, rightly or wrongly, to guilt white people into giving up their property, earnings, rights, interests, culture and land to other peoples?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  444. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Demography is destiny. The only way to have enough voters — or as necessary, fighters — is to HAVE CHILDREN.

    If we don’t, we’ll eventually be killed, gradually subjugated, or driven out by people who DID have children.

  445. @RadicalCenter

    Just a reminder Radical Center. You are a Christian who committed “universalism” by marrying a Chinese woman and having Chinese offspring. You stated before that your Chinese sons are learning some Chinese language and travel to Taiwan. You imported Chinese inferiority to the USA. You are now an invader with a fifth column. You need to move to Taiwan and stop taking up space in the West.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  446. Malla says:
    @S

    My guess is if a movie has not been made about this already is that Bose is seen as being ‘on the wrong side’,

    Very true. Hitler told Bose that if India implements National Socialism and Indians work hard as Germans with German discipline, India would be a great nation in 100 years. And if Hitler said it, trust me dude, it is true. But the powers that be would never allow National Socialism anywhere. Subhash Chandra Bose planned to implement National Socialism in India. Initially he was into Communism but saw through the bullshit. He was a very smart guy and even MPs in the British Parliament acknowledged his intelligence. He topped some exam in the administration services in the Raj. Anyways then he moved towards Italian Fascism but when he came across German National Socialism, he realized that National Socialism was one of the best social and economic system ever developed by mankind.
    Too bad he died in a plane crash in Taiwan but there are many conspiracy theories about him. That Nehru had him imprisoned in the Soviet Union. I do not think Subhash Chandra Bose would go to the Soviet Union, had he survived the crash, he would have been smart enough to realize that the Western Vs Soviet block rivalry was fake.

    • Replies: @S
  447. S says:
    @Malla

    There are a lot of things about the American revolution which is very fishy.

    I’d tend to agree.

    I explored that subject a bit in entry #224 of ‘the death of historical accuracy’ thread linked below. If you’d not already read it and feel up to it I’d be happy to hear whatever thoughts you might have on the subject.

    It seems the 1776 American Revolution may well have been largely a planned geo-political false split between the US and UK with Whig party involvement.

    Curiously, that parallels the 1950′s ‘break’ between Red China and the Soviet Union which the circa 1960 Soviet defector Anatoly Galitsyn claimed was a planned geo-political split.

    If true, ‘Capitalists’ and ‘Communists’ since 1776 and 1789 respectively performing acts of geo-political deception on a global scale.

    Preparing for WWIII with an already planned outcome…ie in theory ‘a paradise’ where men, women, ethnicities, cultures, lands, ideas, religions, the entire universe, for ‘Everyone’s Good’tm will have all been made ‘One’?

    The Hegelian Dialectic: Thesis, Anti-Thesis, Synthesis

    All just a natural occurence or from the beginning controlled/manipulated in whole or in part?

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-death-of-historical-accuracy/

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  448. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Yes but in that way, in the past, the life of most humans was harsh. it still is. You say do not go on these Cathedrals, the life of the average European was hard. True, but the lives of majority of humans on earth was not exactly easy. King Musa had tons of gold but that does not mean all of his subjects were millionaires. The Mughal emperors lived in great luxury but that does not mean all his subjects were kings and queens.

    True. But life in Europe was particularly ghastly, made all the more onerous by a domineering church which had a vested interest in keeping it that way. Diverting resources toward the construction of these grand basilicas, amid the poverty and misery that surrounded them, put into stark relief the social and economic stratification of European society. The features of European life that made it so unlivable weren’t necessarily replicated in other parts of the world. So I sort of have to chuckle when you assert that Europeans were wealthier, on a per capita basis, than people who were vastly more advantaged in every metric — including food, health, environment, land and resources, freedom, democracy and even religious liberty.

    It isn’t even possible to glean credible data from this period. Over 90% of Europeans scrounged a meager living from the land, living lives of unremitting labor. Hunger was a constant companion, as was disease. And only half of the population reached adulthood. Juxtaposed against the Native American or African experience (just two examples of many), I think you’ll find that all these people had much higher standards of living than Europeans, even if we appraise these life conditions in per capita GDP terms.

    The industrial revolution brought about the potential to increase wealth enormously by higher productivity using machines.

    It really depends on how you measure wealth. In many ways, economics is governed by the First Law of Thermodynamics in the sense that wealth isn’t actually created or destroyed, it can only be transferred from one entity to another. As William Carlos Williams wrote, “destruction and creation are simultaneous.” Ironically enough, the poem ruminates on the razing of cathedrals to make way for movie theaters, and how the rituals of worship in one or the other are not entirely dissimilar.

    As far as many tribal peoples having a better, healthier life than many settled peoples, well that may be true. But most of the descendants of those tribal people today want the convenience of modern technology.

    Sure. We all love modern technology. But the traffic in technology, knowledge and ways and means hasn’t been only one way. Foods from the new world, particularly the potato, saved Europe from demographic collapse. A real white genocide was underway before the introduction of these new world foods. And many modern medications have their provenance in traditional African remedies.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
  449. @Malla

    North East Asians don’t have high IQs. They are notorious cheaters and degenerate Western males with Asian woman are behind this nonsense.

    As to “aborigines.” I think this is another fairy tale. There was the myth that the Chinese were the first to discover America. Not. Now they find some black skulls which are probably leftover black slave remains from the conquest of the Americas.

    Remember Kennewick man? He was a Caucasoid/European and was the first Caucasian in the Americas. Mongoloids were second. Blacks were brought in as slaves. This is more degenerate history. Like (((Donna Zuckerberg))), the classicist, who is busy re-writing Roman history. According to her, Rome was created by blacks/Asians/Jews. She’s just re-writing history for her tribe and brother’s Chinese offspring.

    • Replies: @Malla
  450. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Erectus Walks Amongst Us by Richard Fuerle

    LOL. You want to talk about erectus? You’ll never find a black man with hair on his back and neck. Can Caucasians say the same?

    • Replies: @Malla
  451. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    I have met high IQ Africans myself when I was studying in Europe. It is just that the proportion of the population above a particular IQ is smaller in many tropical countries.

    IQ is learned and acculturated. Raise members of different races on an island somewhere. Expose them to the same culture, diet and education and then you’ll have your answer. White supremacists won’t like that answer.

  452. Okechukwu says:
    @Erebus

    Okechukwu’s (and other’s) rants ignore historical realities.

    Many different peoples migrating southwards converged on S. Africa during the 17th to 19th centuries.

    Your fake history notwithstanding, the parties to this conflict in South Africa aren’t fighting over who is or isn’t indigenous. Neither the ANC nor the DA nor the EFF have ever framed land reform in terms of a referendum on indigeneity or lack of same. The question is how to equitably redistribute land and resources that are currently monopolized by one ethnic group owning to a legacy of colonialism, theft, murder and forcible expropriation.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  453. Truth says:
    @Them Guys

    However, with all we do know and see with typical avg negroes…Not all negroes, just maybe, 90% or so, it appears that perhaps some where in distant past eras, a African negro woman or man mated with a chimp or baboon or ape. Then produced an offspring of an half human + half monkey and allowed it to survive and thrive. Once even one single such example happened, if it did happen, is all it would take to end up today with a billion more descendants from that 1/2+1/2 ape+negro mix

    .

    So, now you believe that humans can produce functioning offspring with animals? It’s getting worse by the post, Old Sport.

  454. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Well to be perfectly honest, Geoffrey, your posts are highly amusing.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  455. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    You guys are gonna be Dawgs one of these days, I can see it coming. Meet up in New York, leave your wives at home, and pick broads up together at intellectual coffee houses and the museum, wearing jackets with suede elbow patches. That sort of thing.

    This site really touches The Truth’s heart sometimes.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  456. bj says:

    “Politics is for liars, war is for honest men.”

    South Africa in CRISIS: Boer Legion – Civil Defence Training

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  457. bj says:

    The Rainbow Nation was a lie!

    Black racism is institutional in South Africa.

    Race Based Laws Forces the White Man to Fight or Flight

  458. Okechuku is a Nigerian troll. He can only best himself by explaining how the White race was created by Yakub on the Greek island of Patmos. According to him, race differences in intelligence are not real because they have never been acknowledged by…Time Magazine? Yes, Time Magazine. He has no knowledge of basic HBD research.

    IQ is learned and acculturated. Raise members of different races on an island somewhere. Expose them to the same culture, diet and education and then you’ll have your answer. White supremacists won’t like that answer.

    This has been settled for decades with large studies of MZ twins reared apart. There’s no correlation between SAS and IQ. There have even been a handful of well-known cases where identical twins were adopted at birth by families of significantly different