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It’s fact: Neoconservatives are pleased with President Trump’s foreign policy.

A couple of months back, Bloomberg’s Eli Lake let it know he was in neoconservative nirvana:

“… for Venezuela, [Donald Trump] came very close to calling for regime change. ‘The United States has taken important steps to hold the regime accountable,’ Trump said. ‘We are prepared to take further action if the government of Venezuela persists on its path to impose authoritarian rule on the Venezuelan people.'”

“For a moment,” swooned Lake, “I closed my eyes and thought I was listening to a Weekly Standard editorial meeting.”

Onward to Venezuela!

Mr. Lake, a neoconservative, was loving every moment. In error, he and his kind confuse an expansionist foreign policy with “American exceptionalism.”

It’s not.

As it happens, neocons are in luck. Most Americans know little of the ideas that animated their country’s founding. They’re more likely to hold ideas in opposition to the classical-liberal philosophy of the Founders, and, hence, wish to see the aggrandizement of the coercive, colossal, Warfare State.

That’s just the way things are.

So, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have enlisted the West in “a proxy Sunni-Shia religious war,” Riyadh’s ultimate aim. Donald Trump has been perfectly willing to partake.

After a campaign of “America First,” the president sided with Sunni Islam while demonizing Iran. Iranians have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks in the US between 1975-2015; Saudi Arabians murdered 2369!

Iranians recently reelected a reformer. Pray tell who elected the Gulf petrostate sheiks?

Moderates danced in the streets of Tehran when President Hassan Rouhani was reelected. Curiously, they’re currently rioting.

If past is prologue, Ron Paul is probably right when he says the CIA is likely meddling in Iranian politics. For the Left and the pseudo-Right, this is a look-away issue. As the left-liberal establishment lectures daily, to question the Central Intelligence Agency—its spooks are also agitating against all vestiges of President Trump’s original “America First” plank—is to “undermine American democracy.”

Besides, “good” Americans know that only the Russians “meddle.”

In Saudi Arabia, a new, more-dangerous regime is consolidating regional power. Almost overnight has the kingdom shifted from rule by family dynasty (like that of the Clintons and the Bushes), to a more authoritarian style of one-man rule.

When it comes to the Saudi-Israeli-American-Axis-of-Angels, the Kushner-Trump Administration—is that another bloodline in-the-making?—has not broken with America’s ruling dynastic families (the Clintons and the Bushes, aforementioned).

It’s comforting to know Saudi Arabia plays a crucial role in the UN’s human rights affairs. In January of last year, the Kingdom executed 47 people in one day, including a rather benign Shiite cleric. Fear not, they went quickly, beheaded with a sword.

Then US ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, a woman as dumb and dangerous as Nikki Haley, was cool with the carnage. (One almost misses Henry Kissinger’s realpolitik. At least the man was highly educated and deeply knowledgeable about history and world affairs. Second only to Jared Kushner, of course.)

Our bosom buddies, the Saudi’s, are currently barricading Yemeni ports. No aid gets through her hermetically sealed ports. Yemenis are dying. Some Twitter followers twittered with joy at the sight of starving Yemeni babies, like this one. Oh well, Yemeni babies can be sinister.

No one would deny the largely neoconservative nature of Trump’s National Security Strategy. Tucked in there somewhere is the Trumpian theme of “sovereignty,” but in watered-down words. The promised Wall has given way to “multilayered technology”; to the “deployment of additional personnel,” and to the tried-and-tested (not!) “vetting of prospective immigrants, refugees, and other foreign visitors.”

These are mouthfuls Barack Obama and Genghis Bush would hardly oppose.

“It’s often said that the Trump administration is ‘isolationist,'” wrote historian Andrew J. Bacevich, in the UK Spectator. Untrue. “In fact, we are now witnessing a dramatic escalation in the militarization of US foreign policy in the Middle East, Africa and Afghanistan. This has not been announced, but it is happening, and much of it without … any debate in Congress or the media.”

Indeed, while outlining his “new” Afghanistan plan, POTUS had conceded that “the American people are weary of war without victory.” (Make that war, full-stop.) Depressingly, the president went on to promise an increase in American presence in Afghanistan. By sending 4000 additional soldiers there, President Trump alleged he was fighting terrorism, yet not undertaking nation building.

This is tantamount to talking out of both sides of one’s mouth.

Teasing apart these two elements is near-impossible. Send “4,000 additional soldiers to add to the 8,400 now deployed in Afghanistan,” and you’ve done what Obama and Bush before you did in that blighted and benighted region: muddle along; kill some civilians mixed in with some bad guys; break bread with tribal leaders (who hate your guts); mediate and bribe.

Above all, spend billions not your own to perfect the credo of a global fighting force that doesn’t know Shiite from Shinola.

The upshot? It’s quite acceptable, on the Left and the pseudo-Right, to casually quip about troops in Niger and Norway. “We have soldiers in Niger and Norway? Of course we do. We need them.”

With neoconservatism normalized, there is no debate, disagreement or daylight between our dangerously united political factions.

This is the gift President Trump has given mainstream neoconservatives—who now comfortably include neoliberals and all Conservatism Inc., with the exceptions of Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson.

How exactly did the president normalize neoconservatism: In 2016, liberals accused candidate Trump of isolationism. Neoconservatives—aka Conservatism Inc.—did the same.

Having consistently complained of his isolationism, the Left and the phony Right cannot but sanction President Trump’s interventionism. The other option is to admit that we of the callused Old Right, who rejoiced at the prospects and promise of non-interventionism, were always right.

Not going to happen.

To some, the normalizing of neoconservatism by a president who ran against it is a stroke of genius; of a piece with Bill Clinton’s triangulation tactics. To others, it’s a cynical sleight of hand.

Ilana Mercer has been writing a paleolibertarian column since 1999, and is the author of “The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016) & “Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011). Follow her on Twitter, Facebook,Gab & YouTube.

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  1. I think Bannon’s ouster and his subsequently being attacked by Trump is just further evidence of Trump the Neocon. McConnell and the establishment are piling on with glee. Welcome to the swamp.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    Trump isn’t a neoconservative or a turncoat, but he was not nearly aggressive enough in purging the unelected bureaucracy or in preparing replacements. By the end of his first term I expect it will be different. He has appointed many federal judges and sent consistent signals to law enforcement agencies. Also, sending Nikki Haley to the UN was a prank. Kushner’s indefensible though.

  3. J.Ross says: • Website

    “Trump attacking Bannon” was Trump reacting hastily and badly to a misreported non-story from half a year ago. Bannon has now irritated the Mercers and will go through some sort of hair shirt thing.
    >establishment gleefully piling
    When have they ever done anything else? Do you expect them to admit they were wrong? Remember when Trump could not possibly be the nominee?

  4. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo Hell with it.
    Lets impeach Trump!
    Zionist Jews with their Negroids and shysters are ruling USA,
    At least USA will go down the drain much much faster.

    • Agree: Grandpa Charlie
  5. Please see my comment on Romans and Greeks.

  6. utu says:

    You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

    But you can fool the whole country all the time in American bi-partisan system. …,Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump each were brought to power by fooling their electorate.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  7. I’m thinking that your comment on Romans and Greeks would receive many more views had you provided a link.

    I have to admit that I didn’t ever have high hopes regarding Trump, it was enough for me that he wasn’t HRC, and he did say he’d make some positive changes but right now he’s not looking good to me at all. (I’m not a US voter) Unless it’s part of a grand plan to keep his real enemies off guard until they’re rounded up, but I doubt that, then the sooner things get really bad for everyone the better because the longer it goes on the worse it will ultimately be.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  8. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    By NeoCon, you mean Jew right?? We remember how you jumped down professor MacDonald’s throat for suggesting that connection.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Che Guava
  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Jews and the Jewish Media normalized Jewish NeoCons by guaranteeing that they always have a voice and airtime in American culture and media. Never called out by the WashingtonPost and NY Times for their previous blunders, they continue to shape American foreign policy. And, of course, the end game here is Israel and the Israeli agenda at all costs, you Jews are one issue folk. And You definitely do your part, with the subtle subterfuge at work in the articles that you write.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. Realist says:

    “So, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have enlisted the West in “a proxy Sunni-Shia religious war,” Riyadh’s ultimate aim. Donald Trump has been perfectly willing to partake.”

    You forgot to mention Israel.

  11. Biff says:

    So Trump did morph into Hillary.
    Actually, it was something I was afraid of once I got the good news of Hillary losing, but expected, considering that I view presidents as empty suits, and the National Security State calling the shots.

    I’m waiting for another one of those “Trump’s Truth in Action” moments when describes the real political atmosphere in Washington.
    Trump was asked about something he said in a previous interview: “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”

    “You’d better believe it,” Trump said. “If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.”

    • Agree: Realist
  12. I think its time to dump the label “neoconservative”. The appropriate term is “interventionists without a cause” (IWAC or IWC) or some other descriptor.

    The real problem that Pres Trump has and I remain a Pres Trump supporter is two fold:

    1. He seems to have forgotten he won the election.

    2. He seems to have forgotten what he was elected to do.

    And nearly everyone of these issues on foreign policy the answer rests in respecting sovereignty – that of others and our own.

    I didn’t need to read,”Adios, America” to comprehend the deep state damage our careless immigration policy has on the country. I don’t need to reread, “Adios, America” to grasp that our policies of intervening in the affairs of other states undermines our own ability to make the same case at home.

    If I weren’t already trying to plow my way through several other books, documentaries and relapsing to old school programming such as The Twilight Zone, Star Trek, and now the Dick Van Dyke show, i would reread,

    “Adios , America.”

    In Col. Bacevich’s book,

    Washington Rules, he posits a distressing scenario that the foreign policy web is so tangled and entrenched, the executive branch is simply out his league. The expectation was that Pres trump had the will to turn the matter. I hold out hope, but maybe not. There’s time.

    I agree, at least build the darn wall.

  13. @J.Ross

    The Trump holdouts that maintain his turncoat buffoonery is actually 5d chess are the 2018 equivalent of the 2009 hopey changey Obots and can’t accept their big daddy is a liar and a spineless turncoat. The system is broken and cannot be fixed from within.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Realist
  14. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Told you so. Cf., “The Winning Trump Ticket & Cabinet (Part I),” published here February 6, 2016. (Ms. Mercer never got to Part II.)

    Elections at the USG level allow the ruled to harmlessly let off steam.

  15. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Yep. Majorettes like Ms. Mercer are part of the parade.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ace
  16. It’s life imitating art: Trump reprises the role of Professor/Führer John Gill in Star Trek episode 50, Patterns of Force.

    • Replies: @Wally
  17. neutral says:

    The signs were already there before the election, too many people were hoping that this time it will be different (it never is) and ignored them. He has jewish children and did say how he was anti Iran, he was always a neocohenservative.

    I have a question for all the Trump supporters still in denial, what will it take to break your delusions? He is not going to build a wall, mass immigration is up, the left wing are mass censoring and essentially running everything now, his foreign policy is now endorsed by the all the never Trumpers – so what is your limit, is there anything he must do to lose your support?

  18. @neutral

    What is your evidence that mass immigration is up? If Trump can point to one real paleocon accomplishment it seems to be strengthening the ICE.

    • Replies: @neutral
  19. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Jews and the Jewish Media normalized Jewish NeoCons by guaranteeing that they always have a voice and airtime in American culture and media. Never called out by the WashingtonPost and NY Times for their previous blunders, they continue to shape American foreign policy. And, of course, the end game here is Israel and the Israeli agenda at all costs, you Jews are one issue folk. And You definitely do your part, with the subtle subterfuge at work in the articles that you write.

    No one should be surprised by Trump promoting Israeli interests über alles. For decades he was so involved in Israel events in New York I debated whether he was actually Jewish or not. Bannon said the embassy move to Jerusalem was at the behest of Adelson, Trump’s old casino buddy. In the campaign Trump got a lot of support from NY Jewish billionaires (Icahn, Feinberg, Paulson, et al.). They know him and how he operates.

    But being pro-Israel doesn’t necessarily equate to neocon. The neocons are the dumb Jews with serious inadequacy issues who could never make it in business and instead went into politics and journalism. The latter are still staunchly opposed to Trump even after a lot of pro-Israel moves. They might warm up to Trump’s bellicosity towards a lot of Israel’s enemies (a long list with degrees of separation), but so far they’ve simply moved left.

    I’m a little more sanguine about a Zionist President who approaches problems from a business and deal-making position than from one who comes a neocon political position (e.g., Hillary, every other GOP candidate except Rand Paul). The former are pragmatic and will avoid conflict, especially stupid conflict, at all costs. While the latter believe they are virtuous in going to war and/or attacking countries. Did you hear Hillary threaten to shoot down Russian planes in Syria during the campaign (WTF??!).

    Lastly, I like to think Trump surrounded himself with neocons (McMaster, Haley, et al.) to placate the GOP establishment because he knows he has to play the game.

    • Disagree: renfro
  20. wayfarer says:

    AIPAC 501(c) non-profit owner’s of the U.S. government.
    Managing the counterfeit fiat wealth of America’s richest 1%

    AIPAC is the “Swamp”

    US and AIPAC – the Unbreakable Bond

  21. Sean says:

    Classical Liberalism may be very principled, but Trump was not elected promising to halt intervention. Make America Great said nothing about the morality of the means he would be employing.

  22. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lincoln Blockface Squarebeard III

    Very well put.

    People are inclined to believe that any activity — in this instance, voting for the red/blue puppets in Washington — in which their participation is patronized must be legitimate and effectual. Many duped in November 2016, even those who now feel betrayed by that farce, were still around here a few weeks ago acting like a Senator Moore in Alabama would be pivotal to reform, his defeat devastating. That’s how Ms. Mercer and her pundit ilk (Buchanan, Napolitano, etc.) thrive — supporting the Empire by never questioning its legitimacy, just taking sides within the Establishment. And they’ll be buying into the 2018 congressional contests, ad nauseum.

    Of course, what is done to us, and to others in our name and with our money, never changes to any meaningful degree. Americans might realize this if they thought critically about it, so they don’t. Instead, they lap up the BS and vote for who tells them the lie they like to hear. When there are identity politics involved, the delusion seems even deeper. There are self-styled “progressives” who used to advocate single-payer, nationalized health care who are elated over the retention of so-called “Obamacare,” the legislation for which was written by and for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

    Me? I cope by boycotting national elections and mass media, participating in forums like this, and hoping that when the tottering tower of debt and gore tips over, as few innocents and as many guilty as practicable are among those crushed.

  23. The Zionist neocons and Israel did 911 and got away with it and everyone in the U.S. gov knows it and they tried to sink the USS LIBERTY and got away with it and so normal is an Orwellian society where Zionists can kill Americans and destroy the Mideast and nobody does jack shit about it.

    The neocons are Satanists warmongers and will destroy America.

  24. Neocons are Zionists. Trump, Bannon and Kushner are Zionists. Israel continues to wag the dog.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
  25. neutral says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    You will come across articles likes this:

    Basically the illegal immigrants are coming in ever larger numbers because they know that there will be no crackdown on them. Likewise deportations are declining.

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  26. TheOldOne says:

    WorkingClass: That’s correct.

  27. Jake says:

    Neocons are about as evil as proudly proclaimed Leftists, and they are obviously more duplicitous.

    Either Neocons will be refuted and publicly rebuked and rejected, or Neocons will eventually destroy the country. Their long term fruits are destruction of that which they have used to destroy so many others.

  28. Jake says:

    Far from all Neocons are Jews. However, virtually all Neocons are militantly pro-Israel to the point of making Israel’s foreign policy desires central to their assessment of what America needs in foreign policy.

    And the source is Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces pro-Jewish culture. WASP culture is inherently pro-Jewish, as much as it is anti-Catholic and anti-French and and anti-Spanish and anti-Irish, etc.

    And all that means that WASP is opposed to the nest interests of the vast majority of white Christians while being pro-Jewish.

    Jews did not cause any of that. Anglo-Saxon Puritan heretics did.

    • Replies: @Alden
  29. @NoseytheDuke

    I am sorry! I cannot supply any references. What I have written there are scientific facts, which I have considered important and accumulated them in my brain through more than fifty years. Only lately I was able to place them into circle and was able to close the circle. With all due respect you do not seem to have previous interest in the subject.
    But I am still eternally grateful to you that at least you did show some interest.

    • Replies: @Ace
  30. @neutral

    Here at the moment things do not add up for me. New York Times, Washington post, and CNN Are owned by Zionist Jews and they naturally tow Zionist Globalist rope. (e-ey yuchnia) Trump is getting domesticated. Trump is becoming Zionist Globalist puppet just like were all the presidents after Nixon.
    I do watch CNN every day almost eight hours a day. I can recognize Zionist faces there, and I do not need even to make them run for me. (Jews run funny and it was one of Gestapo methods to identify them.)
    The vitriol poured out by CNN against Trump is not only, not diminishing, it is extremely intensifying.
    So this is it what is for me a puzzle and I am not able to put the pieces together.

    (I do want to emphasize my attitude here again, that will never change. Only about 4% of Jews are Zionist Globalists. The rest 96% are decent people.)

    • Agree: Archimedes
  31. @neutral

    Pres Trump is a situational leader. It’s a rare style, for good reason. However, he is openly situational. That was clear during the campaign season. however,

    I thought his positions were sincere. I don’t think that this was any kind of slight of hand, “watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat”. His positions on Israel, same sex behavior, marijuana, healthcare remain what they were going in. His foreign policy and immigration positions have been buffered and he seems incapable of standing where he came in.

    It was no secret he intended an assertive military. However, he seems easily convinced that strong means aggressive, and that needlessly aggressive policy is a substitute for a strong US — that is a mistake. Syria cruise strike was the first sign that he was giving in to the men whom he chose as advisers. As it it turns out winning the election has been easier than governing. I assumed he had a much stronger backbone, than he has been willing to exhibit in office.

    • Replies: @Ace
  32. @neutral

    Basically the illegal immigrants are coming in ever larger numbers

    Please, resist the sleazy redefinitionism that attends media-speak. They are NOT “illegal immigrants”; they are illegal aliens.

  33. Good job, Ilana. Keep speaking truth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. Che Guava says:

    You are a cheap propagandist idiot, and playing a cheap card. Any fule is knowing neocon ⊆ of Jewish, and specifically of Jewish Trotsky following idiots.

    Ilana herself is Jewish, so would be unlikely to play the card you are saying.

    I was also thinking that your Prex Trump may be an improvement, from the outside of USA, with growing despair for it, Ilana wrote a book on assumptions that Prex Trump may acting on his better campaign statements, so she is quite brave in writing this.

    However, you may be correct abt. hypocrisy in general.

  35. Che Guava says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    The further correction (although I know enough of USA English to that you are using the correct term in law): ‘invaders’ is the more truthful way to say it.

  36. Wally says:
    @The Alarmist

    What is your “Führer” reference supposed to mean? Or are you merely blabbering Pavlovian like?

    There was the ‘Führer’ with the mythological ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there was the ‘Führer’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  37. @J.Ross

    Pardon the earlier tag. I thought that you just had to be joking. Nikki Haley was inflicted upon the world at large because Trump doesn’t actually know anybody in this new world he fell into once he was inaugurated.

    Trump is so arrogant about his cluelessness that we’ll be lucky to avoid a nuclear war caused by his bumbling. As in the final line of an old proverb: “He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.”

    Prank, my ass.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @TT
  38. Z-man says:

    Hope you’re right…but.

  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    She’s excellent, her efforts are nearly gibberish. The asymmetrical information war on Americans is just as important as any other.

  40. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Iranians have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks in the US between 1975-2015; Saudi Arabians murdered 2369!

    Given that this juden woman’s kind were clearly aware of the impending murder of 2369 people, the correct statement would be;

    Saudi Arabians and IsraHellis murdered 2369!

  41. @Che Guava

    I do not know what you are arguing about, so I will not interfere.
    Only I will try to help.
    When you write on this site and under word appears red line, click on the word with third button of your mousee and than correct spelling appears.

  42. @Wally

    Yeah, you’ll just have to google or imdb the reference and form your own opinion, as if it isn’t already formed.

    • Replies: @Wally
  43. Anonymous [AKA "Ilyana_Rozumovak"] says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    Thank you very much. You give to me a warm feeling around my heart.
    If you like my truth than check out my last comment on article below ….Greeks and Romans.

  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    ‘invaders’ is the more truthful way to say it.

    “illegal invaders”?

    LOL! You are a confused idiot.

    Those are actually the evil empire’s army.

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  45. Alden says:

    The Israeli/AIPAC bribery of American bible thumper preachers, especially in the fundamentalist southern American states has more to do with it than the reformation.

    The preachers get huge donations to pay for their churches and TV shows. They get free trips to Israel for themselves and their families all the time.

    On their Israel trips they pay more attention to the OT Jewish and holocaust sites than the Christian ones

    It’s true that the reformation was a return to Judaism and a rejection of Christianity, but that was 500 years ago.

    What’s important now is the vast amounts of money the Israeli government and the lobby funnels into those fundamentalist churches.

    If the southern fundamentalists only knew what Jews think of them. I really got an earful of Jewish scorn and hate for southerners and fundamentalists during the recent Roy Moore election.

    Read Jewish publications if you want to learn what they think of southern fundamentalists

    • Replies: @renfro
  46. anonymous • Disclaimer says:


    Was that an attempt at being verbally cute?

    Still, with no clarity about that, it is hilarious that a typo-nazi would herself not follow her own advise.

    Sheesh… supremacist Slavoids!! Ugh!

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  47. OMG I am so sorry. I will have to tell Mrs Mercer to change her first name.

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  48. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Well, you had me going for a minute. 😉

    I’ve never seen Ilana (Mercer) respond in Comments.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  49. @anonymous

    Contain yourself, nonny.

    I’m inclined to believe that “illegal invader” is a syntactic construction of dubious merit. How can an invader be anything other than an outside entity attempting to conquer? No need to call it “illegal”.

    Mass media’s adoption of “illegal immigrant” is equally questionable. I suspect the combination was chosen to take advantage of the requirement that Americans must perceive any “immigrant” as a humble, virtuous, hard-working foreign person who is striving mightily and morally to be an American.

    Mass media is all about control. Some impromptu hanging, here and there, would fix that.

    • Replies: @nsa
  50. nsa says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    How about “undocumented democrat”? Or maybe “undocumented republican nanny”?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  51. Johnson says:

    Trump has become the swamp

  52. @anonymous

    Be afraid!
    Be very afraid!
    I could rip out your heart any time.
    But I do not want to spill out your anemic blood all over this site.

    I do have an answer for you!
    You find it as a last comment in article in this column What race Greeks and Romans were.

    • Replies: @Archimedes
  53. Alden says:

    The title is ridiculous. Neo conservatives have been normal for decades.

    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
  54. Wally says:
    @The Alarmist

    So it was a Pavlovian thing with you.
    Obey or else.

    Heaven forbid you make a fool of yourself in debate.

    “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

    – “holocaust historian” Raul Hilberg,

  55. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Your Romans and Greeks post was super cool.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  56. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Ilyana. always you are jumping into conclusion.

  57. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Trump appointed Haley because Sheldon Adelson told him to.
    And contrary to the myth of trump funding his own campaign…he did not…the only money he put in his campaign was a 1o million loan to it. Adelson was his biggest contributor just like Saban was Hillary’s.

    Not coincidentally, however, neocon hopes may lie as well with the generous political funding provided to Haley by Sheldon Adelson, the GOP’s and Trump’s single biggest donor.

    Between May and June, 2016, Sheldon Adelson contributed \$250,000 to Haley’s 527 political organization, A Great Day, funds that she used to target four Republican state senate rivals in primaries. (Only one was successfully defeated.) Adelson was the largest contributor to her group,
    which raised a total of \$915,000.

    This powerful Adelson-funded Israel lobby could soon rival AIPAC’s … › U.S. News
    Oct 31, 2017 – Sheldon Adelson(L), The 3rd annual IAC National Conference, in September, 2016, and Nikki Haley. . will feature, for the first time ever, a prominent speaker from the ranks of the U.S. government: U.S. ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley, who is a favorite among the right-leaning “pro-Israel” crowd.

    The Jews have bought this government and trump and Haley are nothing but junk yard dogs.
    Not that there are good alternatives but anyone who stills supports trump is as crazy as he is.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  58. renfro says:

    What’s important now is the vast amounts of money the Israeli government and the lobby funnels into those fundamentalist churches.

    You have it completely backwards….the evangelicals, particularly Roberson donate money for Israeli settlements.

    • Replies: @Alden
  59. @Archimedes

    Thank you! Did you read it all?

    • Replies: @Ace
  60. Yes I did.

  61. @WorkingClass

    “Neocons are Zionists,” is the equation drawn by WorkingClass. And,, then, “Trump is Zionist.” So, pretty much everyone who isn’t anti-Zionist is Zionist … and, therefore, ipso facto, aanyone who isn’t anti-Zionist is ‘anti-Semitic’. But when we come back to ‘Neo-cons are Zionists’, there isn’t much juice left to squeeze out of ‘Zionist’. Add to that — when figuring out what is meant by ‘neocons’, shouldn’t it have aomething to do with “conservative” and with “new”? So, at the core of the meaning of ‘neocon’ is the idea thaat there’s something wrong with plain old ‘conservatism’ — so much so that plain old conservatives have been forced to identify themselves as ‘paleocons’ to distinguish themselves among the vast throng of those who feel themselves to be somehow ‘conservative’, as though that word had any stand-alone meaning now in the 21st Century.

    If the whole thing wasn’t a Zionist (pro-Israel) plot, inspired by Jews wanting to destroy the old Christian (Jews like to use the term ‘WASP’) hegemony, because Jews just hated that, it was as bad as Christmas to some of them … anyway, if it wasn’t a pro-Israel Zionist plot, it might as well have been.

    But look at this from WorkingClass —

    “I think its time to dump the label “neoconservative”. The appropriate term is “interventionists without a cause” (IWAC or IWC) or some other descriptor.”– WorkingClass

    That updates this from ancient talk of WASPs excluding Jews from Boards of some banks to the current-world operational meaning of ‘neocon’.

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  62. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    You must be new.

    Ms. Mercer used to routinely respond to fanboys, and would sometimes spar with those who commented negatively.* But it all largely dried up after an embarrassing piece (April 15, 2016) concerning her being left out of a publication about eminent paleolibertarians, prompting a long comment thread wherein she wouldn’t come clean about the provenance of a glamorous photograph — which she dubbed “The Mercer Image” — at the top of the article. (At least one of mine now seems to have been excised, but there’s enough left for you to see how she used to respond to comments.). I’m pretty sure, though, that she likes it when you refer to her as “Ilana.”


    *The better writers published here aren’t afraid to engage the commenters. See, e.g., Dinh, Giraldi, Sailer, and Unz.

  63. Oooops! That last quote (about retiring the term ‘neocon’ in favor of “interventionists without a cause” is from @12 by EliteComminc.

  64. @Alden

    The title is ridiculous. Neo conservatives have been normal for decades.

    The neocon movement was normalized in 2001 by the PATRIOT Act. The domestic side of the neocon worldview — or world-system — was joined with the international or interventionist side, just as anti-Palestinian actions by Israel were joined by way of repression of free speech with the Charlottesville protest by conservatives of the desecration of monuments.

    • Replies: @Alden
  65. @anonymous

    I had no idea Ilana responded to commenters, not having previously read any of her columns. I have, however, frequented the joint, off and on, since 2012.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  66. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “Only about 4% of Jews are Zionist Globalists. The rest 96% are decent people.” — Ilana

    That’s a positive thought. I hope its accurate. It just seems like 96% of billionaire Jews are Zionist Globalists.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  67. @Steve Gittelson

    They are NOT “illegal immigrants”; they are illegal aliens.

    What’s wrong with the word ‘foreigner’? (‘Aliens’somehow got mixed up with ‘space aliens’.)

    • Replies: @Ace
  68. Alden says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    I’ve been reading about neo conservatives for decades, long before 2001.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  69. Talha says:

    Wow – really good article! Reminds me of her stuff I used to read at

  70. Alden says:

    I’m sure the evangelical preachers con their followers into donating money to Israel. I’ve seen those late night ads begging for donations to feed ancient old holocaust survivors in Israel.

    But the Israelis pay for all those luxury trips to Israel And a lot of the money to start those TV shows and for the big salaries come from Israel and AIPAC so does the money to set up those big churches that just appear from nowhere

    • Replies: @Realist
  71. Realist says:
    @Lincoln Blockface Squarebeard III

    Correct and this country is on a shit slide to hell.

  72. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    Steve Gittelson (#33): “Good job, Ilana. Keep speaking truth.”

    Steve Gittelson (#49): “I’ve never seen Ilana (Mercer) respond in Comments.”

    Steve Gittelson (#66): “I had no idea Ilana responded to commenters, not having previously read any of her columns.”

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  73. Realist says:

    It is good to see that the Trump scales have fallen from Ilana’s eyes.

  74. Realist says:

    The IFCJ is an unbelievable group. Their television ads would be laughable if not serious.

    For more Zionist bullshit search IFCJ on YouTube.

    If things are so bad in Israel why don’t Jewish billionaires give 90% of their money to the cause.

  75. @renfro

    “Trump appointed Haley because Sheldon Adelson told him to.”

    If so, that reinforces my view that Trump doesn’t know anybody in the Swamp. His appointments reminded me of W’s attempt to nominate his own lawyer for the Supreme Court. Trump appointed people he didn’t know enough about to even hold an informed opinion of their qualifications for the jobs he handed them.

    “anyone who stills supports trump is as crazy as he is.”

    You may be right. Diehard Trump supporters are definitely as stupid as Trump appears to be.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @renfro
  76. @Alden

    Yes, so have I. IMO, the neocons were normalized under Reagan and GHW Bush.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  77. @anonymous

    Pester someone else with your wackiness, nonny. Go away.

  78. polskijoe says:

    When you say “Zionist Globalists” do you mean Zionist and Globalist together, or Zionist or Globalist?

    From the statistics I have read.
    30 percent of Jewish people in the US support Israel strongly.
    54 percent moderately.

    And please less CNN. Its lots of hours wasted.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  79. polskijoe says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    I have always wondered why its okay to say WASP but not Jew in public.
    One is more pc, the other is not allowed.
    I have seen some articles about Jews replacing wasp, even from Jewish authors.

    As for Neoconservatives. It depends how we define it.
    I see it as a case of American imperialism fused with pro Israel sentiment. Large overlap, but not always.
    From what I know modern Neoconservativism started somewhere around the 70s,80s? Became dominant around the Bush years. (during Reagan years they got rid of many Paleocons).

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  80. TT says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Not only Nikki is a prank, she is also a godsend. Now the world get to see USG naked without usual pretension.

    Trumps is probably the most honest Potus with highest integrity & bravery in American history(stupid aside). He means what he said without mind boggling hypocrite lies, he tried fulfilling all his election promises, fighting bravely with his only little weapon tweeter besiege by entire states organs, CIA/FBI, both parties, MSM, world allies,…

    He put US Embassy in Jerusalem that all other Potus promised but never keep, he tried to revise immigration policy that people blocked, building prototype wall now, try befriend Russia become a treason act, reneged nuclear agreement with Iran, make US military great(of course need hyper tension like nuclear NK), scraped Obacare, TTP, Climate deal, try to grab Killary, bring back jobs with tax heaven….

    Mann, this is really a man of his word. Didn’t these are what you people voted him for, to drain the swamp? He gotta shock the entire MSM brainwashed nation up to see the deeply corrupted USG, collapse it quickly for a new one to move in(by whoever after his prank). As Trumps had asked:”what you got to lose to vote me?”

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  81. @Twodees Partain

    ” Trumps supporters are definitely as stupid as Trump appears to be”

    So I guess this axiom includes myself , a fervent DT supporter, who also just happens to be “Mensa” qualified, and an artist, (Jazz musician) to boot.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US ArmyVet, and pro Jazz musician.

    PS. My cousin a retired Naval officer, with a PhD in nuclear physics, is also a staunch DT supporter, so does this rule also apply to him?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  82. @TT

    Tell me how you know that Trump means what he says. Do you know him personally? Have you known him long enough to know what he thinks about anything? How do you know what he thinks?

    The obvious answer is that you know what you read about him and what you see in videos or on TV. Aren’t you just projecting your hopes upon Trump? Admit the truth.

    • Replies: @TT
    , @Steve Gittelson
  83. @polskijoe

    You are correct the term Zionist Globalist is not all encompassing.
    With this term I only want to define only Jews who are engaged in politics and they are pushing Globalization ergo full spectrum dominance of all world.
    Maybe you read The project for new American century. if not you can find it through Google.
    Not only Zionist Globalist are pushing this idea. There is a large group of US politician non Jews
    who also are pushing this policies. So these two groups together would be called Neocons.
    There is a large group in US population, that find this idea very appealing.
    I am using the term Zionist Globalist mainly for the reason that not all Jews are in this camp.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  84. @Authenticjazzman

    I guess it does, Mensa member. In my experience, people who have to proclaim their high IQ to strangers on an internet forum usually proceed to post the most stupid comments and claims.

    Your cousin with a PHD is welcome to come here and make the same kinds of claims you’re making for him, and we’ll see whether he goes on to post a stupid comment or two. Until he does that, I have no opinion of his status as stupid or not stupid. He may not even exist for all anyone here knows.

    There are people who claim to have high IQs who are totally stupid in practical matters. You may be one of them. All I know about you is what you post here. Signing your posts the way you do is laughably stupid. The fact that you retyped a quote from my comment instead of doing a c&P also looks a little bad for your IQ.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  85. TT says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Yes..ues…i admit, don’t shoot. Im just been sarcastic, USG is in such a laughing stock to the world now, many americans probably are exasperated if not yet numb. I am not judging he is good, DT is just less evil typical business man..imo

    But frankly, i do see why people are voting DT now. He is at least more entertaining and blunt to screw up WH deep states show. Per msm (fake news), he is honouring all his campaign promises rt? So that make him above hypocrite liar Obama who speak on peace(Nobel prize), but drenched in Libyan and Syrians blood.

    US msm brainwashed people need lot of shock & awe to wake up to reality, then they might have hope to drain the swamp in unity or just await to implode and suck down whole world.

  86. Erebus says:

    No one would deny the largely neoconservative nature of Trump’s National Security Strategy.

    Well, some better minds than mine do deny that very thing. Three of them follow below.

    Gilbert Doctorow at:

    What we see in the NSS is prioritization and true strategic vision as opposed to ideological cant and ad hoc responses to global developments…

    Patrick Armstrong at:

    Trump has little interest in the obsessions of the neocon and humanitarian intervention crowd.

    Finally, Andrew Korybko puts it all together at:

    Believing that the current world system no longer sufficiently advances American interests ever since Washington lost control of its institutional tools, and that the eventual outcome of this increasingly multipolar state of affairs is that the US will in turn lose its global empire, Trump has decided to become the Agent of Chaos in bringing about its destruction.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  87. @Erebus

    You must be King Arthur’s Readalot.

  88. Che Guava says:

    I do not know what you are arguing about, so I will not interfere.

    Why are you to saying one thing at the same time as doing its opposite?

    Not one spelling error in my post you were replying to, idiot trolka.

    Third-rate semi-pro. liar. Would bet you are being paid for it.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  89. Che Guava says:

    Former two, what a pair, and you were playing into their game. I was simply saying ‘you should just saying invaders’, the moron you were replying to was pretending I said ‘illegal invaders’, you are either

    A. a fool, because you are not reading the thread up to where you are entering, or

    B. … and more likely, part of their tag-team.

    Doesn’t really matter, you are a moron either way.

    Why do not all of you arseholes from the Israeli Ministry of (dis)-Information’s kindergarten-level courses just fuck off to playing your games elsewhere? This site was fractious but fun and educational, until it was flooded by cretinous dupes such as you.

  90. @Che Guava

    Any fule is knowing neocon ⊆ of Jewish, and specifically of Jewish Trotsky following idiots.

    That is copy and paste from your comment.

    What does fule means?

    Actually I was sincere. I was not trying to put you down.

    And please I want you to know that when I will decide to put you down you will be put down, and you will stay down.

    • LOL: Archimedes
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  91. Roman says:

    But of course, the infamous Jewish “jihadis”.

    This reminded me of the much touted “radical” Muslims, the presumably tiny portion of the 1.5 billion, the 2 percenters.

    Sadly they represent more than 4%. You’d be surprised to know they are in fact the majority.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  92. @Roman

    I do not have a calculator at hand now. But lets say 5%
    10% of 11milion is 1.1 million. Five % is 550 thousand.
    You are trying to tell me that there are more than that number of rich and powerful movers in politics.
    With all due respect I just cannot agree with that.
    Naturally there are majority of Jews who in some way are helping Israeli Jews, like with kind of financial support.

    But we cannot define these as trouble making Zionist Globalists.

  93. @Twodees Partain

    Tell me how you know that Trump means what he says. Do you know him personally? Have you known him long enough to know what he thinks about anything?
    How do you know what he thinks?

    The obvious answer is that you know what you read about him and what you see in videos or on TV. Aren’t you just projecting your hopes upon Trump? Admit the truth.

    My, my, my. That is amusing.

    Tell me, how do you know Hillary Clinton means what she says? Do you know her personally? Have you known her long enough to know what she thinks about anything? How do you know what she thinks?

    The obvious answer is that you know what you read about her and what you see in videos or on TV. Aren’t you just projecting your hopes upon Hillary? Admit the truth.

    So much for easy parody. I hope you can get past your own bullshit someday.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  94. @Steve Gittelson

    I know with certainty that Hillary is a beast from depth of hell.

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  95. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I know with certainty that Hillary is a beast from depth of hell.

    Meh, hyperbole.

    Hillary is no different from most politicians. She’s in it for the wealth and power. She got herself a real smart, duplicitous, pussy-chasing beast of a husband, and made the most of the opportunity.

    People — the American people — should be able to see this rather-evident characteristic of politicians. They should be adequately educated, at least to the extent of being able to detect the base chicanery and corruption that radiates from political personalities.

    But, they don’t. They don’t see the evil. The media deftly conceals it, because the beasts of the media, like jackals, feed on the morsels of wealth that fall to the ground as the politicians devour the carcass of … well, hell, freedom and democracy is as useful a metaphor as any.

  96. @anonymous

    Thank you for the opportunity to share, once again, a magnificent column, published on the Unz Review and elsewhere.

    “The Curious Case Of WND’s Vanishing, Veteran Paleolibertarian” ( addressed, for once and for all, a small, shrinking community’s stunning and consistent displays of intellectual dishonesty, over the years.

    In this context, I am reminded of British comedian Alexei Sayle. When asked what he does when he watches a really talented satirist performing, Sayle replied: “I go back stage and tell him he’ll never make it.”

    Indeed, the attitude to my work over 20 years has been the best proof of its quality.

    If the Comments threads about “ilana mercer,” on the Unz Review, prove anything (other than that anti-Semitism lives), it is that mediocre “men” (for the most) hate a woman who can out-think them. As a defender of men, this saddens me, but it is, nevertheless, true.

    So here is the link to “The Curious Case Of WND’s Vanishing, Veteran Paleolibertarian,” which the venomous mediocrity commenting here so rudely derided, but refrained from linking, for obvious reasons:

    Ron Unz, our wonderful editor, chose the image appended to the column. (The brilliant Mr. Unz is one of the few intellectually honest individuals I know in this biz. He, columnist Jack Kerwick, and a handful of others.)

    In reply to kunckle-dragger’s sniveling: I’ll continue to refrain from interacting with his ilk (“fanboys”) on my column’s thread. But this particular dreadful cur (with apologies to dogs, which I love) further embarrasses himself when he offers up the non sequitur that engaging him is the litmus test for being a “good writer.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Binyamin
  97. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for the convenient hyperlink. I, too, encourage a close reading of the piece and all of the comments. But bear in mind that at least one – mine to Ms. Mercer’s #19 – is no longer there.

    The question remains: Where and how did Mr. Unz choose The Mercer Image? I wasn’t the only commenter who asked.

  98. Che Guava says:

    It is an old intentional mis-spelling of fool in a certain type of site, but sure you would knowing it already.

    Entertaining posts from you.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  99. @Che Guava

    Seriously. Actually I did like a few of your comments so I did try to help you.
    I did not know about that detail.

  100. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Oops, must have used the wrong reply button. See #98.

  101. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Grandpa Charlie

    That’s a positive thought. I hope its accurate. It just seems like 96% of billionaire Jews are Zionist Globalists.

    It’s worth pointing out that 96% of billionaires are globalist scum. Whether they’re Jewish or non-Jewish. We have a problem with our elites, rather than a problem with Jews as such.

  102. dfordoom says: • Website

    I see it as a case of American imperialism fused with pro Israel sentiment. Large overlap, but not always.

    Agreed. American imperialism has a long long history (going back to at least the mid-19th century). That’s why the neocons were able to gain so much influence. They were appealing to a pre-existing imperialist sentiment.

  103. dfordoom says: • Website

    There is a large group of US politician non Jews
    who also are pushing this policies. So these two groups together would be called Neocons.
    There is a large group in US population, that find this idea very appealing.

    That’s why Make America Great Again was such a popular slogan. It appeals to mindless American jingoism and imperialism.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  104. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Twodees Partain

    There are people who claim to have high IQs who are totally stupid in practical matters.

    I’d almost go so far as to suggest that there’s a direct correlation between high IQ and stupidity in practical matters.

    • Replies: @Talha
  105. If Trump is 6’3″, the Jeb Bush must be 6’7″.

  106. Talha says:

    Edward Dutton stated that it was a trade-off between intelligence on one side and instinct on another – both are necessary for survival. For me, intelligence does not seem to correlate directly to wisdom.


  107. @dfordoom

    ” It appeals to mindless American jingoism and imperialism” = “Make America great again”

    So you would prefer : “Make America powerless and insignificant again”

    Which of course appeals to intellectual superiority and a European Marxist mindset.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airboren trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  108. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain

    If so, that reinforces my view that Trump doesn’t know anybody in the Swamp

    You are exactly right.

    Trump really knew no one to hire or appoint to anything except his NY cronies , mainly his Jewish lawyers and Kushner contacts.
    So he appointed anyone they and his biggest donors recommended to him.
    His ego and insecurity demanded he surround himself with his NY cohorts and close family.

  109. dfordoom says: • Website

    ” It appeals to mindless American jingoism and imperialism” = “Make America great again”

    So you would prefer : “Make America powerless and insignificant again”

    How about “Make America a normal nation that respects other nations’ sovereignty, that doesn’t plant military bases on foreign soil, that doesn’t bomb other people’s countries, doesn’t try to impose its views and its culture on the rest of the world, doesn’t undermine the governments of other countries and doesn’t threaten any country that dares to disagree with it.” Would that be too much to ask?

    I would have thought that someone “Mensa” qualified since 1973 could understand that greatness should not be equated with behaving like a thug or a schoolyard bully. America’s aggression does tend to look like the manifestation of a massive inferiority complex.

  110. I commend Ms. Mercer for publishing this which will no doubt bring to light an ugly truth about many of her own tribesmen since there many of her other views which I wholly or partially disagree with

    And as was said sometime before, the thought process of earlier elites (the banking, Hollywood and the neo-con, neo-lib crowd which was almost exclusively Zio-Jewish and is disproportionately still is) has creeped into the very being of what constitutes to be an “elite” in the west these days. Unlimited warfare and welfare using fraudulent money, disturbing the social and sexual fabric of a society! Satan would be quite proud of this scum bunch

    So the zionist cabal still calls the shots and the slavish goyim second tier elites now willingly go along and in fact share the same mentality

  111. Binyamin says:

    C’mon Mercer, you cannot play the race card at such a late stage and scream anti Semitism because you failed as a writer. Yes , anti semitism exists , is odious like any other form of irrational prejudice . But ever since you arrived on these shores, assuming you still live here, you have been a peddler of hate and almost exclusively associated with unsavoury characters- ok, white men who call themselves white nationalists, white supemacists ( actually some are closet neo nazis). It took you a lifetime to realise that your friends do not like Jews? Do you have low IQ? Some of these white nationalists claim to love Israel because they want all Jews to go and live there.
    A manic racialist like you claiming victim status due to prejudice reminds me of a serial thief complaining of being mugged.

  112. Ace says:

    Ilana replies to comments frequently but selectively from what I have seen.

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I believe that Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is an Israeli agent.

  114. Ace says:

    I am interested too but all you wrote was a request to anyone under the sun to read your comments on Romanians and Greeks. Previous interest was not a precondition to receiving the link for which we all now clamor. Where exactly is the “there” where you have written your scientific views representing 50 years of effort? If you cannot supply this link, why do you issue your invitation?

    You did this before a month or so ago and I AM STILL IN THE DARK.

    • Replies: @Ace
  115. Ace says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    The real “f” word in our sick-unto-extinction country.

  116. Ace says:

    I am wrong. You did not do this before.

  117. Ace says:

    A good, vague ad hominem really gets my day off on the right foot. Do you have any substantive points about her writing?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  118. Ace says:

    I recall reading SOTI (somewhere on the internet) that people from the intelligence agencies made a strong effort to persuade him not to attack Syria after the alleged Khan Sheikhoun chemical incident. Supposedly they emphasized that there was insufficient evidence from which to conclude that Assad was responsible. Trump, however, was adamant about instantly responding.

  119. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve made several substantive points about her writing, but here was amplifying that of another commenter on Ms. Mercer’s diversion of dissidence into the sham of Establishment politics. The comment assumes the reader’s recollection that Ms. Mercer was a big proponent of Mr. Trump, at one point indulging the preposterous notion of his appointing people such as the Pauls to cabinet positions.

    As is now plain to see, those of us who questioned candidate Trump’s sincerity were correct. (If you want to see another such forecast, check out Linh Dinh’s June 12, 2016, piece here at Unz.) In any event, a “paleo-libertarian” wouldn’t so readily endorse electoral politics as a solution to BigGov, as Ms. Mercer has in many columns as far back as 2015.

    If you don’t mind, why have you only now scoured a thread of comments under a January 4 column?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Ace
  120. Ace says:

    Where is this secret document hidden?

  121. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    January 4, 2018

  122. Ace says:

    I understand your point now but none of what you write is seen in or inferable from your comment and I’m certainly not aware of other observations made by someone with your generic handle. No sarcasm intended.

    Utu’s point was that the electorate can be fooled and that recent successful political candidates fooled the electorate. Ms. Mercer has written on many topics and, even if I knew her opinions well, I think it is a stretch to say that one should know that Utu assumed knowledge of her having been a big proponent of Mr. Trump. If she sees merit in participating in electoral politics, she’s in good company with a lot of people, including me. I don’t know if there is such a thing as “Establishment politics” only the political mechanisms defined by law. The Establishment has an inordinate influence over those mechanisms but not always. The election of Reagan and Trump were not what the Establishment had in mind so participation is in fact warranted. Both those gents have delivered major disappointments but Trump has also done great work in exposing the Deep State and its commitment to autocratic methods and treasonous doctrines.

    Electoral politics are most certainly in the realm of “blunt instrument” and the election of the dweeb Romney is enough to make a grown man cry. Still, sweet reason is our best bet to try to have an effect. There are alternatives to this approach but more is required than “the system fools everyone all the time.”

    I most likely found this article by clicking on a link on the Unz home page in the last day or two. Comments can become “lost” either by the passage of time or by being buried in blizzard of comments that is difficult for all the most interested to wade through. I still think it is useful to comment at any time and, as here, have the benefit of an interesting discussion with someone.

    Thank you for your kind reply.

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