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When preaching immigration leniency and lawlessness in America, immigration bleeding hearts should lay off the Hebrew Bible, Leviticus 19:34, in particular.

“The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the home-born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

One Rev. Ryan M. Eller, on Tucker Carlson’s show, gave a dissembling and misleading reading of the tract, in mitigation of the immigration status of Kate Steinle’s killer.

The reverend glibly translated the word “sojourn” to mean citizens living among you, the latter having created, presumably, an immutable reality on the ground.

In appropriating the Hebrew text to his humanistic ends, Rev. Eller left-out that Leviticus 19:34 is a reference to strangers who are temporarily in your country.

A “sojourn” is a “temporary stay; a brief period of residence.” The Hebrew word “ger” means alien, stranger, not citizen.

The Hebrew Testament is not the New Testament. It’s not the text you want to use in spreading the Christian, “We Are The World” dogma. For it revolves around distinguishing the Jews and their homeland from the nations of the world.

What is commonly called the Old Testament, I read in the Hebrew, free of the bowdlerization that often accompanies the Christianized translations. As I read it, our Bible was not meant to meld the Jewish People with the world.

The opposite is true.

While it evinces ground-breaking exploration of natural, universal justice—and a lot of not-so-merciful meting out of “justice”—the Hebrew Bible is something of a parochial document.

Undergirding what Christians call the Old Testament is a message of particularism, not universalism. The ancient Hebrews would have been appalled by many a modern, left-liberal Jew who has betrayed the nationalistic message underlying the 24 best-written books ever.

Mercy and justice are all Leviticus 19:34 exhorts. The tract reminds the Hebrews only that they suffered in Egypt as slaves to the Egyptians. Consequently, the people of Israel are to be kind to the strangers living temporarily among them.

Were the biblical author to have added a parenthetic statement, it would’ve been: “Fear not, the stranger will soon be on his way, or chased away.”

The Christian Saint Joan of Arc was certainly steeped in a sturdy nativism.

“Jeanne, does God love the English,” Joan of Arc‘s pro-English inquisitor demanded to know. Said Saint Jeanne d’Arc about the invaders of her homeland, France:

“Yes, God loves the English … but in their own land.”

Can you think of a hero in the distant past who galvanized his countrymen around the idea that their country was no more than an economy? Alas, there are oodles of them around, today.

Lite libertarians like Ilya Somin and Katherine Mangu-Ward, for example.

On Tucker’s too, Somin, professor of law at George Mason University, had stated that “free migration throughout the world could potentially double world gross domestic product.”

Relying on the GDP measure to motivate for open borders is typical of the arguments made by lite libertarians.

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The GDP measure is itself a state-driven metric. Official GDP numbers are deceptive because they chart—and include—the growth of government debt. In order to come to grips with America’s real economic prognosis, one would need to tease apart the indubitably modest economic growth from the monstrous accretion of public debt.

Defined, tracked and manipulated by the D.C. political machine, GDP is a political construct. It statistically conflates the growth of debt with economic growth.

When it comes to alienating more than captivating potential adherents to libertarianism, Somin has nothing on Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor of the lite libertarian publication, “Reason.”

Ms. Mangu-Ward gets my award for the stupidest statement made to Saint Tucker Carlson, this year.

She told Tucker that, “If we had a billion people in America, America would be unstoppable. That would be amazing.”

There’s a method to the open-border religion, preached, invariably, from the alternate universe of the TV studio or creature comforts of a stately home.

According to the Somin and Mangu-Ward “a country is no more than GDP” theory, high population density is just dandy as it increases the division of labor—and with it, specialization.

Witness the densely populated Cairo is all its innovative productiveness! Another splendid model for squalor is Calcutta. So yes, do let’s continue densely packing our country with anyone who washes ashore.

If American history (circa 1894) is anything to go by, the scarcity and high cost of labor helped propel this country into its position as the world’s leading industrial power.

In a word, ignore the Svengali who relies on one statist scam, GDP, to promote another: the centrally planned, divide-and-conquer stratagem of mass immigration.

And beware of fools and knaves who appropriate ancient scripture for their own political ends.

Ilana Mercer has been writing a weekly paleolibertarian column since 1999, and is the author of The Trump Revolution: The Donald’s Creative Destruction Deconstructed (June, 2016) & Into the Cannibal’s Pot: Lessons for America From Post-Apartheid South Africa (2011). Follow her on Twitter, Facebook & YouTube.

 
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  1. Talha says:

    And beware of fools and knaves who appropriate ancient scripture for their own political ends.

    LOL!!! You don’t say!

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    The actual Hebrew verb in Leviticus translated as "sojourn" implies the temporary, unprotected status of the "sojourner" even more strongly.

    Here is the definition of the verb translated as "sojourn" in Leviticus 19:34 in the renowned Strong's dictionary of biblical Hebrew:


    1 sojourn, dwell for a (definite or indefinite) time, dwell as a new-comer (compare גֵּר) without original rights,
     
    Dictionary entry at: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1481.htm
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  2. The author just touched upon the dire economic downside of open borders. Here is my old SRA article on mass immigration from July 25, 2007 that remains relevant:

    Open Borders Insanity

    Libertarians have good ideas about free societies. However, some advocate the naive idea of open borders, which they call “the free movement of labor.” Such people have no grasp of the world beyond the windows in their ivory tower. There are billions of desperate poor people around the world who would move to a modern nation if allowed. This is why no modern nation on Earth allows open borders. Nevertheless, rapid population growth has resulted in large migrant flows into developed nations, both legal and illegal. This has become a major problem resulting in political battles.

    Corporations want cheap labor to push down wages. A favorite tactic is to portray foreign workers as ignorant simpletons who only perform mindless tasks. In reality, only a small percentage of illegal immigrants work in agriculture. An unlimited number of work visas are available for farm workers, but wealthy American farmers dislike the program because it requires them to provide health insurance, so their foreign workers do not burden the local county medical system. Many illegal workers are highly skilled and earn high wages as electricians, plumbers, carpenters, computer programmers, and nurses. Corporate spokesmen assert that mass immigration is needed to fill worker shortages, while they also peddle the myth that a higher minimum wage will increase unemployment.

    Senator John McCain has never labored in his life, having been on the government dole since they day he was born. He is an open borders advocate, while representing the border state of Arizona where polls show that stopping illegal immigration is the primary concern. Last year, McCain argued that Americans are too lazy to work. He told a working class audience that Americans would not work for $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona. He dismissed angry shouts from the crowd with a demeaning: “You can’t do it, my friends.”[1]

    [MORE]

    McCain seems unaware that 1.7 million U.S. citizens work for minimum wage, which was just boosted to $5.85 an hour; the first increase in a decade. These workers make less in one year than McCain earns from one month of “government service.” President Bush and many U.S. Congressmen frequently insult American workers.[2] They often say the nation is at full employment, ignoring the 7 million unemployed Americans looking for work, and another 1.5 million who want to work but are not counted as unemployed since they had not applied for a job during the past month.[3] If just 5 million of the estimated 20 million illegal aliens were deported, this would help these U.S. citizens obtain jobs. Bush often states that deporting illegal aliens is unrealistic, ignoring the fact that thousands are deported each day.

    Another tactic is to portray those who oppose mass immigration as racists. While this is a factor for some, the people hurt by mass immigration are the poor and minorities who face job losses, higher rents, less healthcare, and more crime. Poor immigrants crowd into the poorest neighborhoods and cause problems that go unnoticed by those living on estates or posh gated communities. Cultural conflicts also cause problems for native-born Americans. For example, employers in parts of the USA prefer applicants that speak Spanish to deal with the large numbers of non-English speaking customers.

    Imagine if Great Britain opened its borders to all the world’s peoples. Enterprising ship owners would soon find profitable cargo in the form of human migrants. They could ship people en masse to Britain for maybe $100 a head. Millions of refugees would board ships in India, Pakistan, Iraq, China, the Philippines, and all of Africa for the land of riches. Thousands would file off docks at British seaports each day with no money, no food, few skills, and no grasp of English.

    The population of British cities would double within four years. Schools, hospitals, and prisons would be overrun. Parks and sidewalks would teem with homeless refugees desperate for food. Crime rates would soar as homeowners erect high fences to keep out squatters, scavengers, and criminals. Millions of Britons would lose their jobs as immigrants are hired for a sterling a day. If mass immigration continues, the thousands of refugees who arrive each day would find themselves herded into massive refugee camps. These people want to work and become Britons, but there simply isn’t room.

    On the positive side, corporations would see large increases in profits as labor costs plunge. More people mean more economic activity, so GDP surges. Private security firm work would explode as every small business and house needs a security guard. Since governments must double in size to accommodate this larger population, government officials gain rapid promotions and spending power, boosting GDP further. This is because GDP is not a measure of prosperity, but activity. Therefore, mass immigration is good for GDP, as well as smoking, hurricanes, earthquakes, crime, automobile accidents, and wars.

    “The free movement of labor” into Britain would require a sharp rise in taxes to accommodate immigrants, even if they all find employment. This is because the existing modern infrastructure is inadequate, so new schools, universities, hospitals, parks, roads, fire stations, buses, and government offices would be needed in short order. Since space for new facilities is finite, citizens would be forced to live in a far more congested environment. As these poor immigrants soon outnumber native Britons, they would discover that democracy can address their needs. The nation’s wealth and good jobs would be concentrated among the native born, so laws are passed to raise taxes and share the wealth, and to allow newly arrived minorities a fair share of good jobs, even if they are less qualified. This has already occurred in the USA, which accepts more legal immigrants each year than all of Europe, and explains America’s stronger GDP growth.

    The British are beginning to learn about this problem as well. In 2004, Britain took a step toward open borders by allowing the free movement of labor from European Union (EU) members. Industrialists fooled the public by suggesting that only 30,000 skilled foreigners would arrive to fill shortages. Two years later, that number grew to more than 600,000, and may be much higher since new immigrants are not talkative about their status.

    The “Economist,” Europe’s most influential financial magazine, has long advocated open borders. However, Britain’s recent experience has dampened their enthusiasm, and they now report on unexpected problems. For example, teenagers from impoverished Romania and Bulgaria have discovered that they can “visit” London by hitchhiking, and then as a minor, sign up for free housing and welfare payments. Most are poorly educated, few speak English, and some arrive pregnant.[4]

    Britain has since limited open migration to EU tourists, banning work and state benefits. However, millions remain to help friends and relatives find illegal work in the land of plenty, or how to live off the generosity local churches and charities, or by begging on the street. Britain will find it impossible to control these perpetual tourists since nothing prevents EU deportees from returning the next day. As in the USA, rackets will develop for forged documents and phony marriages. Hospitals will become flooded by “tourists” who require emergency medical care. Businessmen and the wealthy will enjoy the benefits of lower wage workers, and press the government for more “temporary” work visas, and “immigration reform” in the form of an amnesty program.[5]

    The idea of “open borders” to allow “the free movement of labor” is favored only by anarchists, greedy industrialists, and some hopelessly naïve libertarians. The best level of immigration is open for debate, but restrictions are essential. Unfortunately, many good people evade this issue because they fear criticism that they are heartless or a racist. The solution is to address the root cause, rapid population growth in poor nations, which is also a major cause of warfare, environmental destruction, and pollution.[6] It is far more cost effective to use government and charity funds to improve conditions in poor nations, rather than to accommodate a flood of desperate refugees.

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    [1] “Labor Leaders boo McCain on immigration, Iraq”, AP, Apr. 4, 2006, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12155322/

    [2] “Insulting the American Worker”, SRA, May 25, 2006,

    [3] “Employment Situation Summary”, U.S. Govt. BLS, June 2007, http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

    [4] “Come and fall on Slough, Economist, May 17, 2007, http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9193822

    [5] An effort to reward illegal immigration to Britain is underway.

    See “Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay under amnesty, says influential think tank”, This is London, July 16, 2007

    [6] “The Refugee Threat”, SRA, Oct. 12, 2006,

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  3. Nullifying Brexit and removing Trump will delegitimize democracy in the eyes of many. It will lead to revolutionary crisis.

    People will regard democracy a total farce. They will know that Deepocracy rules.

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    Nullifying Brexit and removing Trump will delegitimize democracy in the eyes of many. It will lead to revolutionary crisis.
     
    Unfortunately it won't. The sheep will not give up their faith in democracy so easily.
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  4. As someone who has read the Bible cover to cover multiple times, I find it funny when leftists quote it for their own ends. Interestingly enough, they almost always quote it to justify some massive government bureaucracy that must be created to further encroach on people’s liberty or redistribute their wealth at gunpoint.

    I recall watching some lady from the Center for American Progress (innocent name, devious intentions) on Tucker Carlson’s show quote that “faith without works is dead” in regards to helping the poor via government redistribution of wealth. It was comical hearing her quote the Bible to support government handout programs that incentivize and subsidize fornication. In reality, the Bible has about 200 verses (give or take) regarding the poor. There are only three verses that deal with how the government is to treat them and all three only say that the government is to give them a fair trial. It speaks nothing of creating a permanent underclass by government programs. Not all verses about the poor are nice either; quite a few in Proverbs talk of poverty as something to be ashamed of, it being the result of laziness or foolishness with money. One even implores the reader not to be a “sluggard” or “drowsiness will clothe you in rags.” Giving to the poor in the Bible is relegated to individuals, church congregations, and families (private charity, essentially)–not the government.

    Another favorite of theirs is Matthew 25 where Jesus says, “I was a stranger and you didn’t let me in…Depart from me you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” To the leftist, Jesus obviously meant that one must support unfettered illegal (and legal) immigration from Mexico and Central America into the US or you are going to hell (never mind the fact that 80% of foreign born Hispanics want bigger government and the overwhelming majority even into the 2nd and 3rd generation, that’s not what they’re really after).

    When leftists quote the Bible, I roll my eyes. They hate the Bible, despise it’s commandments (especially those regarding sexual morality) and want it moved out of the public square in every way, shape and form. However, when it comes to bringing in masses of immigrants that will form insurmountable voting blocks for loony socialist/communist liberals to take perpetual power, they become a scripture quoting machine.

    I had to get that off my chest.

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  5. It’s been a while since I read the Old Testament and I can’t read it in Hebtew, nor do I intend to, but my recollection of a great deal of the history of Israel and later Judea was the resistance of the priestly caste (the authors) to the efforts of monarchs to become more multi-cultural by accommodating foreign gods. Saul lost his kingship because he didn’t destroy the cattle of (I think) the Amalekites. Jonah was disappointed that Ninevah repented after his preaching; he had rather hoped God would destroy the place. (The latter two stories may differ in Hebrew, but that’s the way I remember them.)

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    What is commonly called the Old Testament, I read in the Hebrew, free of the bowdlerization that often accompanies the Christianized translations. As I read it, our Bible was not meant to meld the Jewish People with the world.
     
    Mercer's comment about "Christianized" translations is silly and gratuitous. She's right about allowing people into Israel, however.

    I've seen a few sorry translations, but none that were bowdlerized. The translations commonly used in the US are anything but bowdlerized and include all the good and bad in the original.
    , @ger
    God remarks to Jonah, what business is it to you if I forgive the multitudes of Nineveh. Jonah replies, if I can't hate them it is better that I die than live. As Jonah was pouting beside the bush that wilted, God said you are more concerned about the bush than one hundred-twenty thousand souls not counting their animals. Sounds like some of my religious neighbors.
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  6. GDP per capita is insufficient as an indicator of good standard of living because it does not take into account the negative externalities from overcrowding. Densely populated urban seetings will always have more GDP per capita then rural areas. Bhutan has an indicator called the gross national happiness index, i think it is a much better indicator then GDP per capita, other countries should follow.

    http://ophi.org.uk/policy/national-policy/gross-national-happiness-index/

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    I assume the enormous cost of 'immigrant' crime is also considered a boost to GDP.

    Isn't all this just another version of Bastiat's 'broken window fallacy'?
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  7. mass immigration is all about propping up the ponzi economy by increasing population and increasing consumer demand….
    consumer demand is 70% or more of the economy…and the economy is a confidence-based construct…as long as consumer demand stays up, the economy stays up…and if the economy stays up, the CEOs and shareholders of the big corporations keep making millions and profits stay high, and if profits stay high, then the media keeps making money on ads bought by the big corporations…

    that is why the establishment and esp. the media hate trump and the alt-right–we threaten immigration and thus we threaten the ponzi economy

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  8. Moses advice to Israel was to go in and kill everyone, destroy every vestige of the crashing Late Bronze civilisations that were based on usury and international trade, urban trading cities along the coast. If they became a conventional empire Babylon and Egypt would eventually crush them. Instead they were advised by Moses to stay close to the earth, to remain in tents, with at the most small villages built of stone. Then when great empires marched they could return to the desert for a generation until things settled down. With this strategy they could last for millennia, just as the religious Jews have proved over time.

    However, Israel went into the land and did every thing they were told not to do. They made for themselves a king, as they were specifically told not to do, and the second one, David set in motion the events that divided the already small kingdom. He murdered a soldier in order to take his wife, promised that wife their a baby would one day be king, when his twenty-year-old son Absalom already had the loyalty of the northern tribes. Before long the Assyrians and Bablonians had destroyed the nation. Israel got a second chance when Iran came to the rescue. Cyrus of Persia defeated Babylon, and he helped Israel return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. The Jewish writer Flavius Josephus told the tale of how they were destroyed by Rome for the same blind arrogance and fanaticism.

    Every since the Hebrew people have had two paths to their present condition. The religious Jews keep themselves intact as a community over many many centuries by following the law of Moses, keeping the women in the home and out of the marketplace so that every time society collapses and the economy goes to hell they still have strong families and half of their productivity still rolling along. At the same time all the rebellious children over the years become secular Jews, and they become rich century after century by using the Bible as a template of all that weakens a people. The secular Jews get rich selling all that is forbidden to the gentiles, the kingdoms of their enemies. Today the Jews are THE masters of the forbidden usury economy, of pornography, and drugs.

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    Yup.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Interesting overview.
    Thx

    Most of the creators of the zionist project in Palestine were not religious Jews.
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  9. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “If we had a billion people in America, America would be unstoppable. That would be amazing.”

    If we had a billion AMERICANS, yes. Throw away your contraceptives and wait a few years…

    Importing them won’t work. Imports aren’t Americans, and since the post-1965 breakdown of the old assimilation mechanisms, it’s almost impossible to transform them,or their children, into Americans. A few, a very few, make the leap on their own, but most of them become an internal oppositional culture, which is the last thing we need.

    As for the scriptures — immigrants to ancient Israel were required to conform to Israel’s laws. “There shall be one law for all your people…” Lawless immigrants bring the spirit of lawlessness with them, how hard is that to figure out?

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  10. Alfred says:

    The myth that the Jews were ever in Egypt in that period needs to be laid to rest. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that a large number of semitic people were in Egypt. The Egyptians were very good at documenting their history. It is absolute BS.

    The reality is that when the Romans occupied Egypt, many Greeks and Jews lived in Alexandria – this city was founded by Alexander the Great. In order to show their precedence over the Greeks, the Jews changed the texts or mistranslated them.

    Egypt never had slaves in the sense that the USA had. Egypt was an agricultural society with no shortage of peasants. Nomadic peoples – like the Hebrews and Arabs – needed slaves. Today, Saudi Arabia has plenty of slaves – although they are not called that.

    The word Pharoah did not exist in Ancient Egypt. They had kings and queens. The origins of this word comes from the Hijaz province of Saudi Arabia – where Mecca and Medina are to be found.

    The Exodus did not take place from Egypt. It was in the West of Saudi Arabia. The geography as described by the Old Testament and the place names correspond to places in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have devoted considerable resources towards trying to destroy their heritage – because they don’t want the Jews to claim the place as their own.

    “Saudi Arabia Destroyed 98% of Its Cultural Heritage”

    http://uscar.usc.edu/?p=1123

    Recently the oldest papyrus documents ever discovered were located close to the Red Sea at the extreme south of Egypt. These documents show conclusively that those who built the pyramids did travel and have holidays and wages – just like people today. They were no slaves. You can find out more at the Smithsonian website:

    “The World’s Oldest Papyrus and What It Can Tell Us About the Great Pyramids
    Ancient Egyptians leveraged a massive shipping, mining and farming economy to propel their civilization forward”

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ancient-egypt-shipping-mining-farming-economy-pyramids-180956619/

    The Jews fooled the Romans, the British and the Americans. :-)

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    Alfred -- Jews WERE in Egypt... it's just that mainstream archaology got the dates way wrong, so they look at the wrong layers and time frame. See the "Patterns of Evidence" movie (http://patternsofevidence.com/ )
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  11. There do seem to be — have been for some time now — some who call themselves “libertarians” to take logic to its illogical extremes. They just cannot get their heads around the necessity of frequent reality checks — or of any reality checks ever. They just don’t get it.

    In the case of Katherine Mangu-Ward, you kinda figure that she has made a Faustian bargain that requires her to throw herself overboard when she finds that she has cornered herself by the contradictions of her own position. Unless maybe Ilana has misquoted her on the Tucker Carlson show … but nah, I don’t believe that.

    As for Ilya Somin, I have to believe that there is some explanation … he couldn’t be so wooden headed, could he? I mean … you know … “M.A. in political science from Harvard University and J.D. from Yale Law School” … but yah, he could.

    And Ilana nails it once again, with her “alternate universe of the TV studio or creature comforts of a stately home.”

    Maybe Trump will nominate Ilana for the next opening on the SCOTUS. There’s got to be some light at the end of this tunnel through our carnival fun house.

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    "There do seem to be — have been for some time now — some who call themselves “libertarians” to take logic to its illogical extremes. They just cannot get their heads around the necessity of frequent reality checks — or of any reality checks ever. They just don’t get it."

    You could be describing Walter Block. That is exactly the way he comes across to me.
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  12. “… free migration throughout the world could potentially double world gross domestic product.”

    2014 Gross World Product per capita works out to roughly $16k. So we double it to $32k. Might sound good to many Americans or Europeans, but for far nany more it might be a step downward as their share is leveled downward to raise the rest. It is indeed misleading to suggest that doubling GDP is, in and of itself, a desirable end without going into the mechanics of how that GDP is allocated (dare I say ‘earned’ ?) in an economy.

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  13. Jake says:

    The ‘We are the World’ doctrine is not historic Christian. In fact, it is post-Christian, one of many noxious notions that have come fill the hearts and minds of people who have moved far enough from historic Christian doctrines and identities.

    And yes, that group of post-Christians includes many regular church goers, including more than a few who are seen as ‘Religious Right.’

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  14. wayfarer says:

    Israel Directly Helping Muslims and Africans Invade Europe

    Why so Many Jews are Pushing for White Genocide

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    Imagine if Trump tried this:

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

    and see:
    Forget the 'slippery slope' — Israel already is an apartheid state: Neil Macdonald
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/israel-slippery-slope-1.4368018


    Jews and their Left demand massive immigration into the US & Europe while they support very strict Israeli immigration laws which allow JEWS ONLY.

    www.codoh.com

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  15. Jake says:

    “Mercy and justice are all Leviticus 19:34 exhorts. The tract reminds the Hebrews only that they suffered in Egypt as slaves to the Egyptians. Consequently, the people of Israel are to be kind to the strangers living temporarily among them.”

    The passage most certainly does not encourage, much less require, believers in Yahweh to consider those strangers as their people if those strangers refuse to assimilate fully, which would have required religious conversion as well as linguistic, cultural and moral changes. It does not encourage, much less require, Believers to act politically in ways that actually harm their own people while helping strangers. It does not, to be specific, require that the Believers grant the strangers anything akin to Affirmative Action, nor to allow them to break ‘immigration laws.’

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  16. wayfarer says:

    Open Borders for Israel!!!

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  17. This is a great quote:
    “Can you think of a hero in the distant past who galvanized his countrymen around the idea that their country was no more than an economy? Alas, there are oodles of them around, today.”
    A good economy is necessary but NOT sufficient condition for a country/nation/people etc. A people need a myriad of organic, sometimes inarticulatable conditions which, for want of a 10,000 page book we call “culture”.
    As for scripture: as a basis for personal belief etc – fine. But as the basis of such complex issues as immigration ? Give me a break. The “religious can never seem to grasp is that if your “god given” text is an an indisputable authority, then the other guy’s text is equally authoritive…(oh, yes, my god’s the real one, yours is just bullsh*t).
    On immigration ? Go to the root of the problem: stop bombing etc people’s countries to junk & apply economic justice to them – ie no loans that all parties KNOW can never be repaid. No loans the lender knows will be stolen by middle men & local elites etc etc (yes, I know, complete fantasy land stuff.
    Most people don’t actually WANT to leave their homes – they do so mainly because things are just so sh*thouse

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  18. Joe Hide says:

    To Ilana
    A good in your face, obvious, reason based article. I like it. By the way. I am a focused follower of the teachings of Christ and am often appalled at “Christians” who havent a clue what Christ said or, especially, meant

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  19. @Diversity Heretic
    It's been a while since I read the Old Testament and I can't read it in Hebtew, nor do I intend to, but my recollection of a great deal of the history of Israel and later Judea was the resistance of the priestly caste (the authors) to the efforts of monarchs to become more multi-cultural by accommodating foreign gods. Saul lost his kingship because he didn't destroy the cattle of (I think) the Amalekites. Jonah was disappointed that Ninevah repented after his preaching; he had rather hoped God would destroy the place. (The latter two stories may differ in Hebrew, but that's the way I remember them.)

    What is commonly called the Old Testament, I read in the Hebrew, free of the bowdlerization that often accompanies the Christianized translations. As I read it, our Bible was not meant to meld the Jewish People with the world.

    Mercer’s comment about “Christianized” translations is silly and gratuitous. She’s right about allowing people into Israel, however.

    I’ve seen a few sorry translations, but none that were bowdlerized. The translations commonly used in the US are anything but bowdlerized and include all the good and bad in the original.

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  20. Ben Frank says:

    “The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
    An evil soul producing holy witness
    Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
    A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
    O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

    ― William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

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    Thanks for that, bookmarked & will be used.

    He does kick some serious butt.
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  22. Binyamin says:

    Mercer quotes the Hebrew bible accurately however, misses the context. Those were violent times and every tribe responded in a fight or flight manner characteristic of proto historical tribes. The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation. It is worth noting that Mercer is South African. In any other context her nationality would be irrelevant. But the reason I mention this is because when the Afrikaner rulers of her homeland practiced apartheid, they used the Bible to justify white supremacy and segregation. They quoted passages from the bible out of context to try to convince a sceptical world that all the injustices and cruelties of Apartheid was sanctioned by the Bible. They quoted the notorious Curse of Ham passages from Genesis 9 to show that black people were inferior. I suppose old habits die hard.
    Perhaps I am being unfair since Mercer was never a fan of apartheid. Unfortunately since arriving in these shores Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads.

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    The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation
     
    Bullshit...it was quite clear in your bible how you separated Hebrew slaves from other slaves to be treated better.

    Leviticus 25:44
    Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

    Leviticus 25:45
    And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads"

    This is just your opinion of the author. It is obviously an uninformed opinion, to say the least.

    "Perhaps I am being unfair"

    Yes, I'd say that you are indeed.
    , @HallParvey

    The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation.
     
    The essence of the Hebrew bible is exactly not that. It is all about a select tribe, chosen by God, who made it a habit to disobey his edicts as handed down by his spokesmen. His rules require segregation of his chosen and he has promised, if they behave, tribal supremacy over everyone else.

    Beyond that, it's just a genealogical lineage chart. In that world it's important to keep track of just who you might be related to.

    Bonjour
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  23. J1234 says:

    Open borders advocates ultimately want America to assimilate to the world, not the immigrants of the world to assimilate to America. Their purpose is to destroy America as a national identity, and thereby make it a starting point for a centrally controlled globalization effort. Their purpose is not to improve the economy or industry of the US and make it a powerhouse, but to disperse it’s wealth among the people of the world to the point of national weakness – a necessary prerequisite for the ascendancy of a global political community.

    When I go down to the statehouse to campaign against legislation that encourages illegal immigration, I always encounter the social justice clergy, all wearing their collars and advocating, in essence, for the “Christian principles” of open borders. So where are the arguments of “separation of Church and state” from the left at these hearings? Nowhere to be found. Those arguments only come up at pro-choice rallies.

    The modern church is trying to transform it’s 2000 year old message of compassion into a message of “justice.” Compassion is the act of the “haves” (even when they have little) giving to the “have-nots” through a heart felt free-will conviction. Justice (meaning “social justice”) is generally the idea of the have-nots taking from the haves, with very little free will involved (on the part of those who are “giving.”) And even less heartfelt conviction.

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  24. Ron1 says:

    We have always had those among us who prefer the idealized world of egalitarianism. Unfortunately, those who have tried it don’t seem to learn from experience.

    Early Communism actually believed all men were equal, not just before God and the law but in a genetic sense as well. Any inequality was a result of environmental factors or the oppression of capitalism. Supposedly, capitalism was a necessary step toward worldwide Communism, and a “new” man would come out of the process. This man, liberated by such things as owning the means of production, would become the soul of magnanimity and, eventually, there would be no need for police nor government.

    It is amusing to think that any rational human being could accept this kind of nonsense, but we have accepted many mindless ideas before, not because of their inherent logic but because they promised to achieve someone’s idea of Utopia.

    Sigmund Freud: People can’t take too much reality.

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    Actually Communism works very nicely in a group of families, maybe about 50 members.
    Where everybody knows everybody, and knows the contribution of everybody to the system.
    I would even dare to say that it could work up to 100 people. But no more.

    Lenin's motto: everybody contribute according to their abilities ant take according their needs.
    But that did not work out very well. Everybody had little ability and had a great needs.

    Here was the great joke under system at one time the bread was free. But not the meat.
    People were taking bread and then they were feeding pigs with it.
    And so people had a free meat also.
    Here you see how Communist leaders were stupid.
    , @Wally
    "Sigmund Freud: People can’t take too much reality."

    As if Freud knew anything about reality.
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  25. I’m a libertarian but you’d have to be a retard to assume all labor is fungible.

    You have radically different IQ’s, work ethics, health and physical attributes – so who in their right minds would say that immigrating IQ = 70 physical basket cases is going to raise living standards?

    Or criminals? What economist is going to tell you that emptying the world’s jails and welcoming them to the USA is beneficial to anyone but the country they left?

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    America's protectionist takeoff, gives lie to Libertarian theology:

    https://www.amazon.com/Americas-Protectionist-Takeoff-1815-1914-Michael/dp/3980846687
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  26. jack ryan says: • Website

    IM writes:

    “The ancient Hebrews would have been appalled by many a modern, left-liberal Jew who has betrayed the nationalistic message underlying the 24 best-written books ever.”

    I respond:

    yeah, OK I can sort of see this from a very Jewish ethno centric point of view. But unless you/we go for some “out there” identity Christian view that the ancient Hebrews were really Anglo Saxon White people, most of the Old Testament stories don’t work well or at all for us instead.

    Instead this Jewish tribal God Jehovah is constantly bringing down plagues on Gentile, non Jewish people – that’s us.

    How about that religious tale where the Jewish tribal God Jehovah brings down a pillar of fire and parts the Red Sea so that the Jews – God’s Chosen People escape the evil Egyptians (definitely not God’s Chosen people – more like Goyim/Cattle fit to be slaughtered or in this case drowned).

    Even as a 9 year old boy watching that Cecil B DeMille movie the Ten Commandments – the parting of the Red Sea scene struck me as

    Unfair to the Egyptians
    Impossible from a neutral science, history perspective – why didn’t the Jews have any problems with the Mud? How come nobody else Greeks, Persians, Egyptians wrote about this incredible event?

    Here’s the scene:

    The reality is that Jews in Israel, the Diaspora in Europe, UK, USA, Australia, Scandinavia tend to be good and bad at various things.

    Jews are terrible, bad on immigration in to the West. That’s just reality.

    Any of us even saying we should limit mass immigration of Islamic extremist terrorists, rapists, those infected with Ebola or build Israeli style border walls, we’re smeared and marginalized as evil racist NAZIS.

    That’s life.

    Maybe we can say some prayers to the Jewish tribal God Jehovah or Jesus Christ the King of the Jews and prince of peace. M’thinks this month isn’t a good time to try to celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem or East Jerusalem or….

    Time square (ISIS pipe bombers).
    U Cal Berkeley or most any state university.
    Hollywood – no Christmas movies again this year SURPRISE SURPRISE

    The new Catholic in Name Only Pope Francis doesn’t care about any of this – he’s going down for Liberation Theology and doing photo ops where he licks the boots of invading, Black Muslim migrants to Italy.

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  27. anoymous says:
    @Alfred
    The myth that the Jews were ever in Egypt in that period needs to be laid to rest. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that a large number of semitic people were in Egypt. The Egyptians were very good at documenting their history. It is absolute BS.

    The reality is that when the Romans occupied Egypt, many Greeks and Jews lived in Alexandria - this city was founded by Alexander the Great. In order to show their precedence over the Greeks, the Jews changed the texts or mistranslated them.

    Egypt never had slaves in the sense that the USA had. Egypt was an agricultural society with no shortage of peasants. Nomadic peoples - like the Hebrews and Arabs - needed slaves. Today, Saudi Arabia has plenty of slaves - although they are not called that.

    The word Pharoah did not exist in Ancient Egypt. They had kings and queens. The origins of this word comes from the Hijaz province of Saudi Arabia - where Mecca and Medina are to be found.

    The Exodus did not take place from Egypt. It was in the West of Saudi Arabia. The geography as described by the Old Testament and the place names correspond to places in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have devoted considerable resources towards trying to destroy their heritage - because they don't want the Jews to claim the place as their own.

    “Saudi Arabia Destroyed 98% of Its Cultural Heritage”

    http://uscar.usc.edu/?p=1123

    Recently the oldest papyrus documents ever discovered were located close to the Red Sea at the extreme south of Egypt. These documents show conclusively that those who built the pyramids did travel and have holidays and wages - just like people today. They were no slaves. You can find out more at the Smithsonian website:

    "The World’s Oldest Papyrus and What It Can Tell Us About the Great Pyramids
    Ancient Egyptians leveraged a massive shipping, mining and farming economy to propel their civilization forward"

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ancient-egypt-shipping-mining-farming-economy-pyramids-180956619/

    The Jews fooled the Romans, the British and the Americans. :-)

    Alfred — Jews WERE in Egypt… it’s just that mainstream archaology got the dates way wrong, so they look at the wrong layers and time frame. See the “Patterns of Evidence” movie (http://patternsofevidence.com/ )

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    That site is not credible....it writers promote the Old Jewish Testment as factual----while almost everything it claims has been disproven by other (non jewish) archeologist and in fact one prominent Jewish archeologist .
    There was no "kingdom'..as archeologist and Egyptian writings tell us, it was a jewish commune 'outpost'-- what would be called a 'cow town' in modern terms....where as a matter of fact both Egyptians and Romans garrisoned their troops from time to time.

    I am astounded how many people take the bible as a factual account of anything.
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  28. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    What is the point of quoting a marketing manual, the present day “Bible,” and other supporting manuals, as if they were the truth?

    You know the truth about, too many marketers, er, cooks… and all.

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/m01_religion.htm

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  29. renfro says:
    @J1234
    Open borders advocates ultimately want America to assimilate to the world, not the immigrants of the world to assimilate to America. Their purpose is to destroy America as a national identity, and thereby make it a starting point for a centrally controlled globalization effort. Their purpose is not to improve the economy or industry of the US and make it a powerhouse, but to disperse it's wealth among the people of the world to the point of national weakness - a necessary prerequisite for the ascendancy of a global political community.

    When I go down to the statehouse to campaign against legislation that encourages illegal immigration, I always encounter the social justice clergy, all wearing their collars and advocating, in essence, for the "Christian principles" of open borders. So where are the arguments of "separation of Church and state" from the left at these hearings? Nowhere to be found. Those arguments only come up at pro-choice rallies.

    The modern church is trying to transform it's 2000 year old message of compassion into a message of "justice." Compassion is the act of the "haves" (even when they have little) giving to the "have-nots" through a heart felt free-will conviction. Justice (meaning "social justice") is generally the idea of the have-nots taking from the haves, with very little free will involved (on the part of those who are "giving.") And even less heartfelt conviction.

    Agree

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  30. renfro says:
    @anoymous
    Alfred -- Jews WERE in Egypt... it's just that mainstream archaology got the dates way wrong, so they look at the wrong layers and time frame. See the "Patterns of Evidence" movie (http://patternsofevidence.com/ )

    That site is not credible….it writers promote the Old Jewish Testment as factual—-while almost everything it claims has been disproven by other (non jewish) archeologist and in fact one prominent Jewish archeologist .
    There was no “kingdom’..as archeologist and Egyptian writings tell us, it was a jewish commune ‘outpost’– what would be called a ‘cow town’ in modern terms….where as a matter of fact both Egyptians and Romans garrisoned their troops from time to time.

    I am astounded how many people take the bible as a factual account of anything.

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    Hey renfro,

    I am astounded how many people take the bible as a factual account of anything.
     
    I'm in the pocket of people that believe in somethings while not believing in other things in the narrative.

    The difficulty in assessing the matter is simply this; no one has the whole story in front of them right now. We have the evidence that we have and we simply don't know what is left; meaning the jury is still out.

    Only fairly recently in human history did the field of archaeology even become something considered a human pursuit. And we really only have what is truly left from ancient times. Previous generations really didn't care all that much about preserving this stuff in fact they often reveled in destroying the cultural heritage of others; thousands of books in the Library of Alexandria were burned by the Romans (either on accident or on purpose) - by their own admission - and Alexander himself burned down Persepolis. Keep in mind also that the wars between the Sassanid Persian Empire and the Byzantines were fought well into Egypt and it was quite destructive. This was fairly par for the course in those days. The massive library at Baghdad was also destroyed by the Mongols - the assumption that it may have had imported works from Coptic historians about Egyptian history is not far-fetched given that they were translating a lot from the ancient world.

    I was reminded of this whole matter when reading about a massive statue (possibly one of the largest of its kind) that was accidentally discovered in a working-class neighborhood of Cairo earlier this year:
    "The statue's other characteristics led archaeologists to believe that the artifact came from Egypt's Late Period. If true, researchers believe it would be the largest statue from the Late Period ever discovered...The likeness of what may be Pharaoh Ramses II was found submerged in groundwater in a working-class neighborhood of Cairo....In 2006, archaeologists discovered one of the largest sun temples in Cairo under a marketplace....Much of what was once Heliopolis is now covered with residential buildings. Researchers believe many more remains of the ancient world lie hidden under the wider city of Cairo."
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/egypt-pharaoh-ramses-statue-discovered-cairo/

    Given this, I would think a bit of humility from both sides is in order.

    Peace.
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  31. @Ron1
    We have always had those among us who prefer the idealized world of egalitarianism. Unfortunately, those who have tried it don't seem to learn from experience.

    Early Communism actually believed all men were equal, not just before God and the law but in a genetic sense as well. Any inequality was a result of environmental factors or the oppression of capitalism. Supposedly, capitalism was a necessary step toward worldwide Communism, and a "new" man would come out of the process. This man, liberated by such things as owning the means of production, would become the soul of magnanimity and, eventually, there would be no need for police nor government.

    It is amusing to think that any rational human being could accept this kind of nonsense, but we have accepted many mindless ideas before, not because of their inherent logic but because they promised to achieve someone's idea of Utopia.

    Sigmund Freud: People can't take too much reality.

    Actually Communism works very nicely in a group of families, maybe about 50 members.
    Where everybody knows everybody, and knows the contribution of everybody to the system.
    I would even dare to say that it could work up to 100 people. But no more.

    Lenin’s motto: everybody contribute according to their abilities ant take according their needs.
    But that did not work out very well. Everybody had little ability and had a great needs.

    Here was the great joke under system at one time the bread was free. But not the meat.
    People were taking bread and then they were feeding pigs with it.
    And so people had a free meat also.
    Here you see how Communist leaders were stupid.

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  32. ger says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    It's been a while since I read the Old Testament and I can't read it in Hebtew, nor do I intend to, but my recollection of a great deal of the history of Israel and later Judea was the resistance of the priestly caste (the authors) to the efforts of monarchs to become more multi-cultural by accommodating foreign gods. Saul lost his kingship because he didn't destroy the cattle of (I think) the Amalekites. Jonah was disappointed that Ninevah repented after his preaching; he had rather hoped God would destroy the place. (The latter two stories may differ in Hebrew, but that's the way I remember them.)

    God remarks to Jonah, what business is it to you if I forgive the multitudes of Nineveh. Jonah replies, if I can’t hate them it is better that I die than live. As Jonah was pouting beside the bush that wilted, God said you are more concerned about the bush than one hundred-twenty thousand souls not counting their animals. Sounds like some of my religious neighbors.

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  33. renfro says:
    @Binyamin
    Mercer quotes the Hebrew bible accurately however, misses the context. Those were violent times and every tribe responded in a fight or flight manner characteristic of proto historical tribes. The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation. It is worth noting that Mercer is South African. In any other context her nationality would be irrelevant. But the reason I mention this is because when the Afrikaner rulers of her homeland practiced apartheid, they used the Bible to justify white supremacy and segregation. They quoted passages from the bible out of context to try to convince a sceptical world that all the injustices and cruelties of Apartheid was sanctioned by the Bible. They quoted the notorious Curse of Ham passages from Genesis 9 to show that black people were inferior. I suppose old habits die hard.
    Perhaps I am being unfair since Mercer was never a fan of apartheid. Unfortunately since arriving in these shores Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads.

    The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation

    Bullshit…it was quite clear in your bible how you separated Hebrew slaves from other slaves to be treated better.

    Leviticus 25:44
    Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

    Leviticus 25:45
    And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour

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  34. Talha says:
    @renfro
    That site is not credible....it writers promote the Old Jewish Testment as factual----while almost everything it claims has been disproven by other (non jewish) archeologist and in fact one prominent Jewish archeologist .
    There was no "kingdom'..as archeologist and Egyptian writings tell us, it was a jewish commune 'outpost'-- what would be called a 'cow town' in modern terms....where as a matter of fact both Egyptians and Romans garrisoned their troops from time to time.

    I am astounded how many people take the bible as a factual account of anything.

    Hey renfro,

    I am astounded how many people take the bible as a factual account of anything.

    I’m in the pocket of people that believe in somethings while not believing in other things in the narrative.

    The difficulty in assessing the matter is simply this; no one has the whole story in front of them right now. We have the evidence that we have and we simply don’t know what is left; meaning the jury is still out.

    Only fairly recently in human history did the field of archaeology even become something considered a human pursuit. And we really only have what is truly left from ancient times. Previous generations really didn’t care all that much about preserving this stuff in fact they often reveled in destroying the cultural heritage of others; thousands of books in the Library of Alexandria were burned by the Romans (either on accident or on purpose) – by their own admission – and Alexander himself burned down Persepolis. Keep in mind also that the wars between the Sassanid Persian Empire and the Byzantines were fought well into Egypt and it was quite destructive. This was fairly par for the course in those days. The massive library at Baghdad was also destroyed by the Mongols – the assumption that it may have had imported works from Coptic historians about Egyptian history is not far-fetched given that they were translating a lot from the ancient world.

    I was reminded of this whole matter when reading about a massive statue (possibly one of the largest of its kind) that was accidentally discovered in a working-class neighborhood of Cairo earlier this year:
    “The statue’s other characteristics led archaeologists to believe that the artifact came from Egypt’s Late Period. If true, researchers believe it would be the largest statue from the Late Period ever discovered…The likeness of what may be Pharaoh Ramses II was found submerged in groundwater in a working-class neighborhood of Cairo….In 2006, archaeologists discovered one of the largest sun temples in Cairo under a marketplace….Much of what was once Heliopolis is now covered with residential buildings. Researchers believe many more remains of the ancient world lie hidden under the wider city of Cairo.”

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/egypt-pharaoh-ramses-statue-discovered-cairo/

    Given this, I would think a bit of humility from both sides is in order.

    Peace.

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  35. I can but find but minor issue here.

    1. Christians in skirting all manner of responsibility probably rely far more on the story of the good Samaritan. But many are no less inclined to abuse its meaning as they have been

    “I will bless those who bless thee.”

    to support illegal aiding and abetting people here illegally. Never-mind that is not what the scripture is referencing at all.

    2. When discussing GDP it’s probably a good idea to press for an assessment based on the real GDP and export stats.

    But I have to agree that using scripture for issues posing as christian charity is common.

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  36. The Author: Another American Nutcase using a science fictional novel as guidance in their life. Unfortunately Nutcase Mercer is not alone, 75 % of world population hold same beliefs, mostly due to lack of education.
    Illana Mercer can not mitigate her mediaeval views to lack of education, she attended the best universities (Best parties) and later in life found her true path: Providing insane christo-political fringe views on non MSM sites.
    While I deeply respect UNZ for its impartiality and truely , lets ay outlying stance, Mrs. Mercers viewpoints are regarded with moro and ridicule in more informed societies abroad.
    Kindly Den Lille Abe

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    Excuse me Den, my reply is partly to you and partly to the article.

    Well, Ilana is a huge fan of Atlas Shrugged, which, at its best, is a combo of bodice-ripper and steampunk SF.

    Although also very repetive, and Anna's (or John Galt's) radio broadcast, interminable.

    Still, worth reading once for the steampunk and bodice-ripper parts, and its ridiculous nature in general otherwise.

    If you mean the OT, it has a little science-fictional content. As far as I can tell, the OT was gathered by Greeks and Hellenized jews. The earliest ms. in Hebrew is much (many centuries) later than Christian OTs.

    As for the Jewish version having 'the best 24 books ever', sure there is some good material in the OT (and a fair amount of incest and bodice-ripping), but if you have spent much time reading ancient writers, litle is at the top rank, and of that, part is plagiarism (Genesis partly from Sumeria, Psalms, several decisively from Egypt in the time of Akhenaton, etc.).

    That is really an arrogantly tribalistic claim.
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  37. Svigor says:

    What’s the Chapter and Verse for the bit about “don’t allow foreign religions in your land; drive them out, and smash their temples and their idols”?

    I mean, if we’re basing immigration policy on Scripture now…

    Speaking of basing policy on Scripture, does anyone have the Chapter and Verse for the bit in the OT where God forbids the faithful from allowing themselves to be ruled by the other (i.e., someone not from your nation/tribe (the ancients’ understanding of race))? It was “choose only rules from among you,” something like that.

    I mean, if we’re basing policy and politics on Scripture now.

    I also seem to remember an injunction to kill witches, sorceresses, etc. Now that we’re basing policy on Scripture, the pagans and the wiccans will be very put out…

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    And wasn't homosexuality condemned as in:
    'No man shall lie with another man',
    or something like that?
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  38. Svigor says:

    If Big Media approvingly solicits the opinions of a “Christian,” he’s almost certainly a heretic.

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  39. Svigor says:

    1. Christians in skirting all manner of responsibility probably rely far more on the story of the good Samaritan. But many are no less inclined to abuse its meaning as they have been

    This parable is the most abused I know of. It’s interpreted almost 180 degrees opposite its probable true meaning (short version: “it’s a diverse world, and this thing where Jews don’t accept the Samaritans as Jews is stupid and short-sighted.” Sorta like a Nordicist who refuses to make common cause with Italian WNs, or something, but worse).

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  40. Svigor says:

    The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation

    Hasbarah bullshit; the Jews’ idea of the former is not distinct from the latter.

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  41. Wally says: • Website
    @Third world nationalist
    GDP per capita is insufficient as an indicator of good standard of living because it does not take into account the negative externalities from overcrowding. Densely populated urban seetings will always have more GDP per capita then rural areas. Bhutan has an indicator called the gross national happiness index, i think it is a much better indicator then GDP per capita, other countries should follow.

    http://ophi.org.uk/policy/national-policy/gross-national-happiness-index/

    I assume the enormous cost of ‘immigrant’ crime is also considered a boost to GDP.

    Isn’t all this just another version of Bastiat’s ‘broken window fallacy’?

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  42. Wally says:
    @wayfarer
    Israel Directly Helping Muslims and Africans Invade Europe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06szKBjX18

    https://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/israel-migrant-refugees.jpg

    http://www.lukeford.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/borders1.png

    Why so Many Jews are Pushing for White Genocide
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCp2Kg1Hy2I

    Imagine if Trump tried this:

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

    and see:
    Forget the ‘slippery slope’ — Israel already is an apartheid state: Neil Macdonald

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/israel-slippery-slope-1.4368018

    Jews and their Left demand massive immigration into the US & Europe while they support very strict Israeli immigration laws which allow JEWS ONLY.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  43. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor
    John McWhorter Kicks Butt, Takes Names

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/john-mcwhorter/

    Thanks for that, bookmarked & will be used.

    He does kick some serious butt.

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  44. Wally says: • Website
    @Ron1
    We have always had those among us who prefer the idealized world of egalitarianism. Unfortunately, those who have tried it don't seem to learn from experience.

    Early Communism actually believed all men were equal, not just before God and the law but in a genetic sense as well. Any inequality was a result of environmental factors or the oppression of capitalism. Supposedly, capitalism was a necessary step toward worldwide Communism, and a "new" man would come out of the process. This man, liberated by such things as owning the means of production, would become the soul of magnanimity and, eventually, there would be no need for police nor government.

    It is amusing to think that any rational human being could accept this kind of nonsense, but we have accepted many mindless ideas before, not because of their inherent logic but because they promised to achieve someone's idea of Utopia.

    Sigmund Freud: People can't take too much reality.

    “Sigmund Freud: People can’t take too much reality.”

    As if Freud knew anything about reality.

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  45. Wally says:
    @Svigor
    What's the Chapter and Verse for the bit about "don't allow foreign religions in your land; drive them out, and smash their temples and their idols"?

    I mean, if we're basing immigration policy on Scripture now...

    Speaking of basing policy on Scripture, does anyone have the Chapter and Verse for the bit in the OT where God forbids the faithful from allowing themselves to be ruled by the other (i.e., someone not from your nation/tribe (the ancients' understanding of race))? It was "choose only rules from among you," something like that.

    I mean, if we're basing policy and politics on Scripture now.

    I also seem to remember an injunction to kill witches, sorceresses, etc. Now that we're basing policy on Scripture, the pagans and the wiccans will be very put out...

    And wasn’t homosexuality condemned as in:
    ‘No man shall lie with another man’,
    or something like that?

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  46. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Backwoods Bob
    I'm a libertarian but you'd have to be a retard to assume all labor is fungible.

    You have radically different IQ's, work ethics, health and physical attributes - so who in their right minds would say that immigrating IQ = 70 physical basket cases is going to raise living standards?

    Or criminals? What economist is going to tell you that emptying the world's jails and welcoming them to the USA is beneficial to anyone but the country they left?

    America’s protectionist takeoff, gives lie to Libertarian theology:

    https://www.amazon.com/Americas-Protectionist-Takeoff-1815-1914-Michael/dp/3980846687

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  47. Svigor says:

    Wally, yes, good one. These heretics need to be thumped over the head with their own Bibles.

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  48. Svigor says:

    yeah, OK I can sort of see this from a very Jewish ethno centric point of view. But unless you/we go for some “out there” identity Christian view that the ancient Hebrews were really Anglo Saxon White people, most of the Old Testament stories don’t work well or at all for us instead.

    Instead this Jewish tribal God Jehovah is constantly bringing down plagues on Gentile, non Jewish people – that’s us.

    This lacks imagination.

    First, you’ve got a half-full glass right in front of you that you’re ignoring; God is clearly no egalitarian or anti-racist. He’s absolutely down with racism in his followers.

    Second, think “universal particularism.” God gave His Covenant to Jews first; be racist and multiply. But eventually, God ended that Covenant, and made a New Covenant with all the peoples of the world; be racist and multiply. Jews were the roll-out, demonstration case. He liked the results so much, he gave us all a New Racist Covenant. God doesn’t play favorites anymore; now we all get to be racist and multiply. (Think of all the juicy racialist religious Scripture we get to crib from Jews and turn to our advantage)

    Third, there isn’t really an “us gentiles,” any more than there’s a brotherhood of man. It’s just some Jew construct (most primitive peoples have a word for “us humans” and “the rest of the featherless bipeds”).

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  49. Svigor says:

    Sure, weak religion can fall prey to Jew/Zionist heresies (“Jews were God’s Chosen so we should hold them to lower standards,” “Muh Israel muh proffecy” etc.), that’s why we call it weak religion. This is easily solved: “No, God chose the Jews because they were the worst of humanity; he figured if he could get through to them, he could get through to anyone, and he could proceed to roll out his New Covenant.”

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  50. AKAHorace says:

    Actually if you use GDP per capita rather than GDP a lot of the economic arguments for immigration don’t work. Indonesia has a higher GDP than Luxembourg, Luxembourg a higher GDP per capita than Indonesia.

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  51. Leslie says:

    If there is one book in the Old Testament that is always avoided then it is Ezra 10 where the Israelis took wives and husbands of other nations
    I believe that Love thy neighbor like they self, it means that those who are like you (self) it was changed by people to justify there relation ship with other nations and to include them in your love affair or to save your own self from harm – to say brother or sister I love you like I love my self and hope that would convince them to do no harm to you in the end thy do harm you it all liberal thought

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  52. Eagle Eye says:
    @Talha

    And beware of fools and knaves who appropriate ancient scripture for their own political ends.
     
    LOL!!! You don’t say!

    Peace.

    The actual Hebrew verb in Leviticus translated as “sojourn” implies the temporary, unprotected status of the “sojourner” even more strongly.

    Here is the definition of the verb translated as “sojourn” in Leviticus 19:34 in the renowned Strong’s dictionary of biblical Hebrew:

    1 sojourn, dwell for a (definite or indefinite) time, dwell as a new-comer (compare גֵּר) without original rights,

    Dictionary entry at: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1481.htm

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  53. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    Nullifying Brexit and removing Trump will delegitimize democracy in the eyes of many. It will lead to revolutionary crisis.

    People will regard democracy a total farce. They will know that Deepocracy rules.

    Nullifying Brexit and removing Trump will delegitimize democracy in the eyes of many. It will lead to revolutionary crisis.

    Unfortunately it won’t. The sheep will not give up their faith in democracy so easily.

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  54. @Grandpa Charlie
    There do seem to be -- have been for some time now -- some who call themselves "libertarians" to take logic to its illogical extremes. They just cannot get their heads around the necessity of frequent reality checks -- or of any reality checks ever. They just don't get it.

    In the case of Katherine Mangu-Ward, you kinda figure that she has made a Faustian bargain that requires her to throw herself overboard when she finds that she has cornered herself by the contradictions of her own position. Unless maybe Ilana has misquoted her on the Tucker Carlson show ... but nah, I don't believe that.

    As for Ilya Somin, I have to believe that there is some explanation ... he couldn't be so wooden headed, could he? I mean ... you know ... "M.A. in political science from Harvard University and J.D. from Yale Law School" ... but yah, he could.

    And Ilana nails it once again, with her "alternate universe of the TV studio or creature comforts of a stately home."

    Maybe Trump will nominate Ilana for the next opening on the SCOTUS. There's got to be some light at the end of this tunnel through our carnival fun house.

    “There do seem to be — have been for some time now — some who call themselves “libertarians” to take logic to its illogical extremes. They just cannot get their heads around the necessity of frequent reality checks — or of any reality checks ever. They just don’t get it.”

    You could be describing Walter Block. That is exactly the way he comes across to me.

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  55. @Binyamin
    Mercer quotes the Hebrew bible accurately however, misses the context. Those were violent times and every tribe responded in a fight or flight manner characteristic of proto historical tribes. The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation. It is worth noting that Mercer is South African. In any other context her nationality would be irrelevant. But the reason I mention this is because when the Afrikaner rulers of her homeland practiced apartheid, they used the Bible to justify white supremacy and segregation. They quoted passages from the bible out of context to try to convince a sceptical world that all the injustices and cruelties of Apartheid was sanctioned by the Bible. They quoted the notorious Curse of Ham passages from Genesis 9 to show that black people were inferior. I suppose old habits die hard.
    Perhaps I am being unfair since Mercer was never a fan of apartheid. Unfortunately since arriving in these shores Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads.

    “Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads”

    This is just your opinion of the author. It is obviously an uninformed opinion, to say the least.

    “Perhaps I am being unfair”

    Yes, I’d say that you are indeed.

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  56. @Binyamin
    Mercer quotes the Hebrew bible accurately however, misses the context. Those were violent times and every tribe responded in a fight or flight manner characteristic of proto historical tribes. The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation. It is worth noting that Mercer is South African. In any other context her nationality would be irrelevant. But the reason I mention this is because when the Afrikaner rulers of her homeland practiced apartheid, they used the Bible to justify white supremacy and segregation. They quoted passages from the bible out of context to try to convince a sceptical world that all the injustices and cruelties of Apartheid was sanctioned by the Bible. They quoted the notorious Curse of Ham passages from Genesis 9 to show that black people were inferior. I suppose old habits die hard.
    Perhaps I am being unfair since Mercer was never a fan of apartheid. Unfortunately since arriving in these shores Mercer has gone bonkers and nowadays clutches on to the nearest unwashed white supremacist she can find and spends her spare time saying rude things about Muslims, ‘blecks’ And Hispanics. She also writes books no one reads.

    The essence of the Hebrew bible is worship of God not the doctrine of racial supremacy or separation.

    The essence of the Hebrew bible is exactly not that. It is all about a select tribe, chosen by God, who made it a habit to disobey his edicts as handed down by his spokesmen. His rules require segregation of his chosen and he has promised, if they behave, tribal supremacy over everyone else.

    Beyond that, it’s just a genealogical lineage chart. In that world it’s important to keep track of just who you might be related to.

    Bonjour

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  58. Hibernian says:

    The linked essay puts “stranger” in quotation marks and uses the phrase, “equality and even love.” These are towards the beginning and seem to read modern Universalism into Scripture. It quotes no Scripture except the Leviticus passage. As it unfolds the viewpoint appears to be much too conservative for open borders activists. It emphasizes rights and responsibilities on both sides.

    This essay somehow refutes Ms. Mercer? It’s more like a high school reading assignment for the middle track.

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  59. I watched the Ilya Somin video, he looks like his manhood is in a vice. Anyways,

    I don’t know much about the Bible, and I’m not a fan of open borders (at least under the current welfarist mass-political regime), but I thought the points about economics were weak.

    Witness the densely populated Cairo is all its innovative productiveness! Another splendid model for squalor is Calcutta. So yes, do let’s continue densely packing our country with anyone who washes ashore.

    But is America’s capital availability as poor as that of Cairo or Kolkata? That’s really the crux of the open borders argument: people from the Global South are better off here, because the Global North’s capital multiplies their productivity. To talk about Cairo or Kolkata is to miss their point, because immigrants would not be going to Cairo or Kolkata.

    Of course, things would not end up like the globalists want, because the new arrivals would start demanding welfare and power as soon as they got here. But their economic argument is strong.

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  60. Che Guava says:
    @Den lille Abe
    The Author: Another American Nutcase using a science fictional novel as guidance in their life. Unfortunately Nutcase Mercer is not alone, 75 % of world population hold same beliefs, mostly due to lack of education.
    Illana Mercer can not mitigate her mediaeval views to lack of education, she attended the best universities (Best parties) and later in life found her true path: Providing insane christo-political fringe views on non MSM sites.
    While I deeply respect UNZ for its impartiality and truely , lets ay outlying stance, Mrs. Mercers viewpoints are regarded with moro and ridicule in more informed societies abroad.
    Kindly Den Lille Abe

    Excuse me Den, my reply is partly to you and partly to the article.

    Well, Ilana is a huge fan of Atlas Shrugged, which, at its best, is a combo of bodice-ripper and steampunk SF.

    Although also very repetive, and Anna’s (or John Galt’s) radio broadcast, interminable.

    Still, worth reading once for the steampunk and bodice-ripper parts, and its ridiculous nature in general otherwise.

    If you mean the OT, it has a little science-fictional content. As far as I can tell, the OT was gathered by Greeks and Hellenized jews. The earliest ms. in Hebrew is much (many centuries) later than Christian OTs.

    As for the Jewish version having ‘the best 24 books ever’, sure there is some good material in the OT (and a fair amount of incest and bodice-ripping), but if you have spent much time reading ancient writers, litle is at the top rank, and of that, part is plagiarism (Genesis partly from Sumeria, Psalms, several decisively from Egypt in the time of Akhenaton, etc.).

    That is really an arrogantly tribalistic claim.

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  61. Che Guava says:

    BTW, Ilana, I am in full agreement with you on recent translations having been bowdlerised in places.

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  62. Svigor says:

    Ilana, you really need some help here.

    Physician, heal thyself

    https://cis.org/Use-and-Abuse-Bible-Immigration-Debate

    This essay somehow refutes Ms. Mercer? It’s more like a high school reading assignment for the middle track.

    That works, because Corvanus thinks and writes at that level.

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  63. Svigor says:

    Oh, before anyone starts quoting Christ to refute my idea of “universal particularism,” remember that Christ said “not a jot or a tittle of the Old Law will pass away.” Meaning, while some of the Old Law is to be refined by the New Covenant, none of it can just be dismissed out of hand; it is all grist for the synthesis that must go into making doctrine. Heretics and their suborners may want you to just ignore stuff from the OT and replace it with stuff Christ said, but that is not what Christ said to do; synthesis is how doctrine must be formed*. Leftist heretics like Corvanus can eat shit.

    *(e.g., “turn the other cheek” is not meant to replace “an eye for an eye,” it is meant to be synthesized with it; my interpretation is that he was saying that while equal pay/punishment is the template of justice, God did not mean to make exacting revenge a religious imperative – it is good to be merciful, or at least, good to recognize that being merciful is at least as pleasing to God as exacting revenge. Christ knew his intimation would offend Jews who were using lex talionis as a mandate from God to exact revenge.)

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    By "the old Law" Christ must have meant the Decalogue. When he stops the crowd from stoning the prostitute he lays down a rule than only the sinless may cast a stone, but since no mortal is sinless, no stoning may proceed. You could call this a 'refinement' but it feels more like a rejection of the old requirement that adulterers be stoned. Nor is "turn the other cheek" a "refinement" of "an eye for an eye." It seems to be an alternative ethical norm that if followed will lead to different behavior.
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  64. Bill Jones says: • Website

    What sort of barking mad loon believes this bullshit?

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    No, I did not aim comment 68 at Bill Jones. I wanted to thank Svigor, for his comment 64.
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  65. Ilya Somin is NOT a libertarian; Ilya Somin is a leftist pretending to be a libertarian so he can have access to preach leftism to libertarians.

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  66. Bill Jones says: • Website
    @Mike Garrett
    Moses advice to Israel was to go in and kill everyone, destroy every vestige of the crashing Late Bronze civilisations that were based on usury and international trade, urban trading cities along the coast. If they became a conventional empire Babylon and Egypt would eventually crush them. Instead they were advised by Moses to stay close to the earth, to remain in tents, with at the most small villages built of stone. Then when great empires marched they could return to the desert for a generation until things settled down. With this strategy they could last for millennia, just as the religious Jews have proved over time.

    However, Israel went into the land and did every thing they were told not to do. They made for themselves a king, as they were specifically told not to do, and the second one, David set in motion the events that divided the already small kingdom. He murdered a soldier in order to take his wife, promised that wife their a baby would one day be king, when his twenty-year-old son Absalom already had the loyalty of the northern tribes. Before long the Assyrians and Bablonians had destroyed the nation. Israel got a second chance when Iran came to the rescue. Cyrus of Persia defeated Babylon, and he helped Israel return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. The Jewish writer Flavius Josephus told the tale of how they were destroyed by Rome for the same blind arrogance and fanaticism.

    Every since the Hebrew people have had two paths to their present condition. The religious Jews keep themselves intact as a community over many many centuries by following the law of Moses, keeping the women in the home and out of the marketplace so that every time society collapses and the economy goes to hell they still have strong families and half of their productivity still rolling along. At the same time all the rebellious children over the years become secular Jews, and they become rich century after century by using the Bible as a template of all that weakens a people. The secular Jews get rich selling all that is forbidden to the gentiles, the kingdoms of their enemies. Today the Jews are THE masters of the forbidden usury economy, of pornography, and drugs.

    Yup.

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  67. @Bill Jones
    What sort of barking mad loon believes this bullshit?

    No, I did not aim comment 68 at Bill Jones. I wanted to thank Svigor, for his comment 64.

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  68. @Mike Garrett
    Moses advice to Israel was to go in and kill everyone, destroy every vestige of the crashing Late Bronze civilisations that were based on usury and international trade, urban trading cities along the coast. If they became a conventional empire Babylon and Egypt would eventually crush them. Instead they were advised by Moses to stay close to the earth, to remain in tents, with at the most small villages built of stone. Then when great empires marched they could return to the desert for a generation until things settled down. With this strategy they could last for millennia, just as the religious Jews have proved over time.

    However, Israel went into the land and did every thing they were told not to do. They made for themselves a king, as they were specifically told not to do, and the second one, David set in motion the events that divided the already small kingdom. He murdered a soldier in order to take his wife, promised that wife their a baby would one day be king, when his twenty-year-old son Absalom already had the loyalty of the northern tribes. Before long the Assyrians and Bablonians had destroyed the nation. Israel got a second chance when Iran came to the rescue. Cyrus of Persia defeated Babylon, and he helped Israel return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. The Jewish writer Flavius Josephus told the tale of how they were destroyed by Rome for the same blind arrogance and fanaticism.

    Every since the Hebrew people have had two paths to their present condition. The religious Jews keep themselves intact as a community over many many centuries by following the law of Moses, keeping the women in the home and out of the marketplace so that every time society collapses and the economy goes to hell they still have strong families and half of their productivity still rolling along. At the same time all the rebellious children over the years become secular Jews, and they become rich century after century by using the Bible as a template of all that weakens a people. The secular Jews get rich selling all that is forbidden to the gentiles, the kingdoms of their enemies. Today the Jews are THE masters of the forbidden usury economy, of pornography, and drugs.

    Interesting overview.
    Thx

    Most of the creators of the zionist project in Palestine were not religious Jews.

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  69. Impressive article by Mercer. I will look for more from this author. Culture is like health: we take it for granted until something causes it to break down, like taking in tens of millions of people who could care less about preserving our way of life. But the Libertarian is really easy to refute: As libertarian Milton Friedman used to say, open borders and a welfare state don’t mix. Even without entitlements, countries whose governments provide a lot of valuable services at taxpayer expense cannot open their borders without welcoming free-riders.

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  70. @Svigor
    Oh, before anyone starts quoting Christ to refute my idea of "universal particularism," remember that Christ said "not a jot or a tittle of the Old Law will pass away." Meaning, while some of the Old Law is to be refined by the New Covenant, none of it can just be dismissed out of hand; it is all grist for the synthesis that must go into making doctrine. Heretics and their suborners may want you to just ignore stuff from the OT and replace it with stuff Christ said, but that is not what Christ said to do; synthesis is how doctrine must be formed*. Leftist heretics like Corvanus can eat shit.

    *(e.g., "turn the other cheek" is not meant to replace "an eye for an eye," it is meant to be synthesized with it; my interpretation is that he was saying that while equal pay/punishment is the template of justice, God did not mean to make exacting revenge a religious imperative - it is good to be merciful, or at least, good to recognize that being merciful is at least as pleasing to God as exacting revenge. Christ knew his intimation would offend Jews who were using lex talionis as a mandate from God to exact revenge.)

    By “the old Law” Christ must have meant the Decalogue. When he stops the crowd from stoning the prostitute he lays down a rule than only the sinless may cast a stone, but since no mortal is sinless, no stoning may proceed. You could call this a ‘refinement’ but it feels more like a rejection of the old requirement that adulterers be stoned. Nor is “turn the other cheek” a “refinement” of “an eye for an eye.” It seems to be an alternative ethical norm that if followed will lead to different behavior.

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