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713c9hKhvqL._SL1500_ So I just bought the Kindle Version of The Shape of Ancient Thought: Comparative Studies in Greek and Indian Philosophies for $3.99. At 780 pages this is a substantial work, and from what I can tell it’s an academically oriented text (not one of those Kindle “books” which are cut & paste jobs out of Wikipedia). Yet strangely the hardcover edition is much more expensive, at $39.99. That’s a huge discount. Additionally, the “digital list price” is $33.99. Is this incredible deal random? Or does Amazon know that I’m likely to buy this book at this price point? The only non-introductory population genetics text that I know of on Kindle is Matthew Hamilton’s, and it’s Kindle price is $58.99, pretty steep. I generally avoid buying books which might have figures and mathematical symbols in electronic format, because they don’t always render well on a Kindle, but if the Hamilton book was cheap enough I’d go for it (I don’t have a physical copy because I’ve got all the other major population genetics textbooks already).

Also, my friend Ryan Baldini just put up a paper on bioRxiv that some readers might find of interest, Harsh environments and “fast” human life histories: What does the theory say?. I’ll have more comment when I’ve thoroughly read the paper.

 
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  1. Maybe somebody fatfingered the price in the database; check back in a few days and see if the price has jumped. I’ve seen that happen from time to time on big retail sites; if the item is obscure it can take a while before anybody catches it.

  2. http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/02/02/islamist-students-shout-allahu-akbar-at-uc-davis/

    I see there was a bit of a conflict between the muslim and jewish student organizations at davis this week. Was it something you said, Razib? Ha ijk:)

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    @Robert Ford

    the central valley has a non-trivial muslim population from pakistanis and such that live in certain cities at high concentrations. so you see hijabis and what not around. anti-israel sentiments seems to be fashionable on the left today, so no surprise that this stuff is going to happen, as they won't be censured.

  3. I’m very interested in this topic, Razib, and hoping you’ll leave a review.

  4. @Robert Ford
    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/02/02/islamist-students-shout-allahu-akbar-at-uc-davis/

    I see there was a bit of a conflict between the muslim and jewish student organizations at davis this week. Was it something you said, Razib? Ha ijk:)

    Replies: @Razib Khan

    the central valley has a non-trivial muslim population from pakistanis and such that live in certain cities at high concentrations. so you see hijabis and what not around. anti-israel sentiments seems to be fashionable on the left today, so no surprise that this stuff is going to happen, as they won’t be censured.

  5. In recent weeks I have come across a bizarre belief (held by liberal arts graduates from good quality colleges) that Christians in the Middle East are the remnants of a population left behind by the crusades. Has anyone else ever heard this nonsense ?

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    @Andrew

    fascinating! if you read the stuff on middle eastern xtians you often find that they have to explain to american evangelicals that they aren't recent converts. perhaps it comes from the same sort of ignorance, but is filtered through different socio-political lens. ergo, start with the axiom xtianity = western, and figure out how western influence effects non-westerners....

    Replies: @April Brown, @Joe Q.

  6. @Andrew
    In recent weeks I have come across a bizarre belief (held by liberal arts graduates from good quality colleges) that Christians in the Middle East are the remnants of a population left behind by the crusades. Has anyone else ever heard this nonsense ?

    Replies: @Razib Khan

    fascinating! if you read the stuff on middle eastern xtians you often find that they have to explain to american evangelicals that they aren’t recent converts. perhaps it comes from the same sort of ignorance, but is filtered through different socio-political lens. ergo, start with the axiom xtianity = western, and figure out how western influence effects non-westerners….

    • Replies: @April Brown
    @Razib Khan

    My anatomy teacher in university was from northern India (don't know which part), and her last name was "Thomas". She was always dreadfully offended when some student would assume that she'd married a westerner with that name. Her family, so she said, had had that name since St. Thomas came to India and started a Christian community.

    , @Joe Q.
    @Razib Khan

    I would have thought that the Crusaders would have mixed in at least a little bit with the original Christian population of Lebanon / Syria / Egypt etc. -- maybe not enough to leave a cultural signature, but enough to leave genetic traces?

    Replies: @Razib Khan

  7. @Razib Khan
    @Andrew

    fascinating! if you read the stuff on middle eastern xtians you often find that they have to explain to american evangelicals that they aren't recent converts. perhaps it comes from the same sort of ignorance, but is filtered through different socio-political lens. ergo, start with the axiom xtianity = western, and figure out how western influence effects non-westerners....

    Replies: @April Brown, @Joe Q.

    My anatomy teacher in university was from northern India (don’t know which part), and her last name was “Thomas”. She was always dreadfully offended when some student would assume that she’d married a westerner with that name. Her family, so she said, had had that name since St. Thomas came to India and started a Christian community.

  8. @Razib Khan
    @Andrew

    fascinating! if you read the stuff on middle eastern xtians you often find that they have to explain to american evangelicals that they aren't recent converts. perhaps it comes from the same sort of ignorance, but is filtered through different socio-political lens. ergo, start with the axiom xtianity = western, and figure out how western influence effects non-westerners....

    Replies: @April Brown, @Joe Q.

    I would have thought that the Crusaders would have mixed in at least a little bit with the original Christian population of Lebanon / Syria / Egypt etc. — maybe not enough to leave a cultural signature, but enough to leave genetic traces?

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    @Joe Q.

    not that i've seen, but the genetic distances are often a bit small here. probably could quantify it by whole genome sequencing of Y chromosomes and such. but note that a lot of the elites just decamped from outremer when it fell... though supposedly there are frankish origin first names in places like the mediterranean coast of syria, where they mixed with local xtians and what became alawites.

  9. A paper is online about Jomon Japanese genetics(Ancient genomic DNA analysis of Jomon people). No big surprises except a Denisovan contribution to some Jomon samples.

  10. @Joe Q.
    @Razib Khan

    I would have thought that the Crusaders would have mixed in at least a little bit with the original Christian population of Lebanon / Syria / Egypt etc. -- maybe not enough to leave a cultural signature, but enough to leave genetic traces?

    Replies: @Razib Khan

    not that i’ve seen, but the genetic distances are often a bit small here. probably could quantify it by whole genome sequencing of Y chromosomes and such. but note that a lot of the elites just decamped from outremer when it fell… though supposedly there are frankish origin first names in places like the mediterranean coast of syria, where they mixed with local xtians and what became alawites.

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