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On Wednesday, the Commonwealth of Virginia took down and then sawed to pieces Robert E. Lee’s 21-foot bronze equestrian statue in the former Confederate capital of Richmond.

On paper, this was illegal. In 1889, the General Assembly guaranteed that the state would “hold the said [Lee Monument] perpetually sacred to the monumental purpose to which it has been devoted.” In 1890 the association to build the monument deeded the land to the Commonwealth. This month, the Virginia Supreme Court noted that:

The 1890 Deed states that The State of Virginia . . . executes this instrument in token of her acceptance of the gift and of her guarantee that she will hold [the Lee Monument and the land it stands on] perpetually sacred to the Monumental purpose to which they have been devoted and that she will faithfully guard it and affectionately protect it.

That should have been the end of the story, but Virginia Democrat Governor Ralph Northam had already decided to take the statue down in 2019. While he was in med-school, he posed in blackface or in a KKK costume (it’s still unclear which). He then told conflicting stories about the photograph, but admitted wearing blackface when he went to a party as Michael Jackson. He even offered to moonwalk for the press before his wife mercifully restrained him.

He survived the scandal, and to ensure black support, he claimed his “eyes had been opened” and that he would make “racial equity. . . a top priority for the remainder of our administration.” This included removing Confederate monuments, so Gov. Northam decided Virginia need no longer “affectionately protect” the statue. The heirs of those who donated the land for the statue sued to prevent its destruction.

Governor Northam’s legal team told the state supreme court that the Lee monument sent a message that “many believe contradicts the values of equality, inclusion, and diversity.”[1]1210113.pdf (, p. 7 It added that the post-war “white citizenry wanted to impose and state unapologetically their continued belief in the validity and honor of their ‘Lost Cause,’ and thereby vindicate their way of life and the former Confederacy.”[2]Ibid, p. 9
(1210113.pdf (, p. 7)
The court didn’t care that the statue was a National Historic Landmark, nor that a “colored” Confederate soldier attended the unveiling in 1890.

It also found that the 1889 guarantee did not bind the current government. It ruled that government speech “is a vital power of the Commonwealth,” and that though the statue said nothing except the word “Lee,” it “play[s] an important role in defining the identity that [the government] projects to its own residents and the outside world.”[3]Ibid, p. 13
(1210113.pdf (, p. 7)
It said further that the state not need be viewpoint neutral, and that affectionately protecting the statue “would contradict public policy and be unreasonable in light of changed circumstances.”[4]Ibid, p. 15-16
(1210113.pdf (, p. 7)

“Democracy is inherently dynamic,” the court added. “Values change and public policy changes too.”[5]Ibid, 23.
(1210113.pdf (, p. 7)
Therefore, the terms of the grant of property to the state in exchange for protecting the monument are “unenforceable” because they were “the product of a nineteenth-century attempt to barter away the free exercise of government speech regarding the Lee Monument in perpetuity.” Forcing the state to keep its promise to protect a statue with the word “Lee” on it would violate the state’s right to free speech.

Robert E. Lee’s horse is lifted onto a flatbed for transport after using a power saw to separate Lee from his horse so that it can be hauled under highway overpasses. The Confederate statue, installed in 1890, is the largest remaining in the US. (Credit Image: © Bob Karp/ZUMA Press Wire)
Robert E. Lee’s horse is lifted onto a flatbed for transport after using a power saw to separate Lee from his horse so that it can be hauled under highway overpasses. The Confederate statue, installed in 1890, is the largest remaining in the US. (Credit Image: © Bob Karp/ZUMA Press Wire)

Many Americans think the Constitution — an eighteenth-century document — will secure their rights. They are clearly wrong. While corporations, NGOs, and the federal government restrict citizen free speech, Virginia’s supreme court claimed the state government’s free speech rights were so sacred it could break a clearly worded contract.

In a separate decision, the court went further: “[E]very single day that the statue remains standing inflicts harm across the Commonwealth – both on an individual level and more broadly by undermining our system of democratic governance.” How did the statue undermine democracy? “The Lee Monument communicates principles that many believe to be inconsistent with the values the Commonwealth currently wishes to express.”

What about those who don’t think a statue of General Lee “inflicts harm?” A September 2020 poll found that Virginia was about evenly divided on the question of removing Confederate memorials, but the opinions of white Southerners don’t count. The court repeatedly cited the supposed harm the Lee statue caused blacks. It was silent on what it meant to white Southerners who fought for their homes, lost, and returned to a wasteland.

The late Tony Horowitz’s book Confederates in the Attic reports that: “Roughly half of modern-day white Southerners are descended from Confederates, and one in four Southern men of military age died in the War.” Joan Baez, hardly a conservative, was inspired to sing her cover of “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” because when she toured the South she found “there’s pain here, there is a sadness here.” The economic damage caused by the Union armies kept the South from reaching antebellum levels of prosperity until the 20th century. The suffering, sacrifice, and endurance of the Confederate army meant nothing to the judges.

The authorities were so thrilled by the removal, they livestreamed the whole thing. Unfortunately for the propagandists, the camera could not avoid depicting a truly noble work of art.

The government closed streets, ostensibly for security. Many media outlets promoted the story, but attendance was low. “Hundreds” celebrated. When the statue was originally unveiled in 1890, more than 150,000 people were there — more than the total population of Richmond.

Unveiling of the Lee statue in Richmond
Unveiling of the Lee statue in Richmond

City workers were to remove a 133-year-old time capsule and replace it with a new one that the governor said would “better reflect who we are as a people in 2021.” A whole team of “historians, educators, and artists” had come up with such things to include as “Stop Asian Hate” flyers, Kente cloth from the “400th commemoration of 1619,” and an expired COVID-19 vaccination vial. As of this writing, workers couldn’t find the old time capsule.

This is supposed to be a new beginning for leftists. The Guardian quoted an attendee who favorably spoke about Germany’s post-war experience. State senator Jennifer McClellan said that now that the statue is gone, “the healing can begin.” Governor Northam said that it was all “part of the healing process so Virginia can move forward and be a welcoming state with inclusiveness and diversity.” “The last symbol of hate” is gone, said The Progress-Index.

What is Virginia “moving” towards? The city and Richmond’s Museum of Fine Arts will reportedly “reimagine” Monument Avenue. If the time capsule is any indication, it will be an embarrassment.

Richmond has seen better days. Its white population fell after desegregation because whites didn’t want to send their children to the public schools. That was wise.

According data from 2018–2019, the Richmond school system is 88 percent non-white. It is ranked 131st out of 135 Virginia school districts. But help is on the way. The district is “reimagining” the role of School Resource Officers because too many students of color are getting in trouble. (Appropriately, students from MLK High School were number one in arrests).

Murders in the city are up 40 percent this year. In the third quarter of 2020, they were up 60 percent over that period the year before. Councilwoman Reva Trammell, a white woman, says part of the reason is that veteran police officers are leaving the force.

There is hope. Gentrification is making Richmond ”whiter and wealthier.” Of course, according to the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, this is “colonization.” No doubt, when blacks displaced whites during the Civil Rights Era, that was “integration.”

Rather than glorious accounts of “healing,” I expect a year from now we’ll be reading worried articles about persistent racial disparities even though the “harmful” statue is gone.

The most forthright support for General Lee came from former president Donald Trump, who released a statement Wednesday saying: “He should be remembered perhaps as the greatest unifying force after the war was over, ardent in his resolve to bring the North and South together through many means of reconciliation and imploring his soldiers to do their duty in becoming good citizens of this Country.” Other Republicans were silent.

The former president makes an important point. On April 20, 1865, Lee wrote to President Jefferson Davis urging the “restoration of peace” rather than guerrilla warfare. “A partisan war may be continued, and hostilities protracted,” Lee wrote, “causing individual suffering and the devastation of the country, but I see no prospect by that means of achieving a separate independence.” Instead, Lee told Southerners to promote “harmony and good feeling.”

Lee wrote a letter to President Andrew Johnson in 1865 asking for amnesty and the restoration of citizenship. He didn’t get it in his lifetime, but in 1975, Congress passed a joint resolution backdated to June 13, 1865. “General Lee’s character has been an example to succeeding generations,” said President Gerald Ford when he signed the document, “making the restoration of his citizenship an event in which every American can take pride.”

Occasionally, leftists say that World War II soldiers were the “original antifa.” If so, they should heed the words of Dwight Eisenhower, who called Lee a “great American,” said “a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul.” The Kappa Alpha Order calls Lee its Spiritual Founder and the model of a gentleman.

General Lee’s personal integrity and his record in the Mexican-American War were beyond reproach. The federal government esteemed him so highly that he was offered command of the Union Army, but he felt he had to defend his state. His family had lived in Virginia for 200 years. If fighting for his home makes him a “traitor,” the Founding Fathers were no different, except that their rebellion succeeded.

Unlike the Union generals, General Lee forbade attacks against the “unarmed and defenseless” or the destruction of private property. The Union soldiers he fought respected him and his army. Their respect makes the faux courage of goons who boast about toppling a statue all the more pathetic.

The current rage against the South is more hateful than anything Union soldiers felt. Civil War reunions with combatants from both armies were relatively common after the war.

Slavery may have been the root cause of the war, but removing it or preserving it was not the main goal of either side. Abraham Lincoln famously said he would keep slavery in the South if the Union could be preserved. Lee freed his own slaves and urged the government to enlist black soldiers in 1865. By the end of the war, he put independence above everything else, even if it meant arming blacks.

General Lee accepted defeat with grace. Reconstruction was brutal; Southerners might have rebelled again without Lee’s calls for peace. It may be no exaggeration to say that it is Lee, as much as Abraham Lincoln, ensured that America remained one country.

General Lee was the model Southerner who fought for his home but was reconciled to defeat. He was the Hector of the American Iliad. The heroism of the Confederate Army became part of the larger American epic, which is why American soldiers also flew the Confederate battle flag in World War II and Vietnam.

To revile Lee and white Southerners is to renounce the terms of the Confederate surrender. It is to say that white Southerners and their descendants should not be considered part of the Union. The new America will treat them as a conquered people rather than, as Lincoln believed they were, wayward sons. To use a leftist word, it “reimagines” Southern whites as outside the polity, whose feelings and interests don’t count, and whose heritage is a source of shame.

National Review is spineless, but many conservatives (including Donald Trump) know that the attack on the South is the precursor to an attack on the historic American nation. There are few arguments you can make against Robert E. Lee you can’t make against George Washington. Leftists are already attacking Washington, Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, and countless white American heroes. It will not stop with Robert E. Lee. This not an attack against the South, or even the Confederacy. It’s against whites.

As Sam Francis warned 21 years ago:

What the racial assault on the Confederacy and other non-Confederate symbols really shows, however, is not only the dangerous flaws of multiracialism and the inexorable logic of the racial revolution of this century but also that today regional differences among whites — like many other cultural and political differences — are no longer very relevant. It shows that Southerners and “Yankees” today face common enemies and common threats to their rights, interests, identity, and heritage as whites, and that the forces that have declared war on them and their heritage define themselves as well as their foes not in political, regional, or cultural terms but in terms of race. Whites who have been indifferent to the fate of the Confederate flag and similar symbols in the recent controversies should not be surprised, therefore, when historical symbols important to their own identity come under assault from anti-white radicals in the future.

And it is as a race that whites must now learn to resist the war being waged on them. So far from being a symbol of a lost and forgotten cause relevant only to a dwindling band of Confederate loyalists, the Confederate flag and the battles swirling around it today should serve as reminders to all white men and women of a simple lesson: Unless they forsake the many obsolete quarrels and controversies that have long divided them and learn to stand, work, and fight together for their own survival as a people and a civilization, the war against them that their self-proclaimed racial enemies are waging will not permit them or their legacy as a people and civilization to survive at all.

The Confederate flag is no longer a regional symbol. It was in the Capitol on January 6, at Donald Trump rallies, and at gatherings around the country. However, those who seek to explain it as a sign of “white insurrection” miss the point. It is more inchoate — a symbol of populism, opposition to elites, and rebellion.

The Confederate battle flag now flies outside the South. Will Wilkinson recently wrote that the flag can be seen in Maine, Minnesota and in other rural areas. He has discovered a “Southernification of rural America,” a “relatively unfirm ethnocentric white culture.” However, he notes that he has no data, just anecdotes.

Damon Linker at The Week, drawing on Mr. Wilkinson’s essay, describes what could be happening:

Not just growing ideological unification across the rural areas of the country, but the drift of that ideology in the direction of the Confederacy. The point isn’t that the American countryside increasingly wants to avenge the honor of Southern slaveowners for their loss in a war that ended over a century and a half ago. Rather, the people who live in these areas share with the historic South an intense distrust of the federal government, veneration of local law enforcement, resentment of city folk, suspicion of minorities and foreigners, hostility to technologically driven change, and a keen sensitivity to cultural slights.

He says social media are a means of “virtual community”-building. He doesn’t say it directly, but the implied solution is censorship. Of course, censorship proves that right-wing populists are right. Hostile elites really are trying to shut you up.

No force on Earth could stop whites if we united as whites. However, just having a group of whites doesn’t always mean a healthy society. The Richmond gentrifiers will not put the monument back. White leftists dislike their own race. This does not mean they dislike themselves. Most probably feel superior to the other kind of whites. This is what John Derbyshire calls the “Cold Civil War” between liberal “goodwhites” and reactionary “badwhites.” The former want egalitarian policies that will lead to white extinction, culturally if not biologically.

And yet, even as the federal government discriminates against whites, Confederate monuments fall, and Black Lives Matter gains power, leftists still think they are rebels. CNN warns that “white supremacy” will still rule America even if whites become a minority. The Hill published an article claiming that “white supremacy has continued to grow in the United States and is now more prolific than ever.” As a 2018 study in Science found, those whose job it is to eliminate a problem (like racism) always broaden the definition of what needs to be eliminated.

Robert E. Lee stood for many things, but more than anything, he stood for duty. He called it the sublimest word in the English language. The British hymn “I Vow to Thee My Country” expressed it this way: “I vow to thee, my country, All earthly things above, Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love.” If one man in American history exemplifies this, besides George Washington, it is Robert E. Lee.

Portrait of Robert E. Lee in Richmond on April 16, 1865, just two days after Lincoln’s assassination. (Credit Image: © Mary Evans via ZUMA Press)
Portrait of Robert E. Lee in Richmond on April 16, 1865, just two days after Lincoln’s assassination. (Credit Image: © Mary Evans via ZUMA Press)

Robert E. Lee laid down his sword because the bid for Confederate independence had failed and unity was the best path forward. In return, Union leaders and the federal government granted him respect and after his death, restoration of citizenship and high honors. Now, these honorable terms of surrender have been revoked.

Many whites are mentally no longer part of the current political order, but we didn’t mentally secede. We were kicked out. Lee was the last straw, and the battle flag is a natural rallying point. Now is the time to begin organizing locally. Support secession efforts within the United States, especially in Virginia. Network with friends and form partnerships to make yourself financially and physically stronger. Don’t be like those jackals in Richmond. Build, don’t destroy.

A man wearing a confederate flag walks down a Washington D.C. street during the 2021 Inauguration. (Credit Image: © Steve Sanchez/Pacific Press via ZUMA Wire)
A man wearing a confederate flag walks down a Washington D.C. street during the 2021 Inauguration. (Credit Image: © Steve Sanchez/Pacific Press via ZUMA Wire)

Most importantly, don’t despair. Accept the challenge of history. “Every time I look at Atlanta, I see what a quarter million Confederate soldiers died to prevent,” wrote John Shelton Reed. Today, that statement applies not just to Atlanta or Richmond but to the entire country. Once again, we are called to resist. It is not a struggle of arms, but of will. It is not North versus South, but patriotic whites versus those who despise us.

It may seem daunting, but we have Lee’s example before us. Do your duty and leave the rest in God’s hands.


[1] 1210113.pdf (, p. 7

[2] Ibid, p. 9

[3] Ibid, p. 13

[4] Ibid, p. 15-16

[5] Ibid, 23.

(Republished from American Renaissance by permission of author or representative)
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  1. I love your article, Mr. Hood. My concern is that we may be too late, God help us. I thought that the time for secession was right after the election steal. Rush Limbaugh suggested as much in one of his broadcasts at the time. I personally saw nothing to be gained from violence against the “thieves.” To what end?, I thought. I still feel that way.

    It is necessary for white (and even black) populists to reconvene in rural outposts, as you suggest and to re-establish American institutions that rely on morality and religion. Without Christian values, the United States never would have been. The Constitution, as has been proven by today’s woke wordsmiths, is only paper. The character of the people originated in religious values that emanated from a more spiritual source.

    The “revolution ” that is now occurring from the ostensible leadership of the country has a decidedly Jewish cast to it. Notably, the Jews are and always have been (with the exception of a few fringe movements) focused on the secular and material life. They have no interest in the after-life or the soul or any other more eternal or ennobling pursuits. Unless those of us who value our true American heritage take a page from the Amish or other “separatist” religious orders, we are doomed. Our salvation, as you rightly suggested, lies in rural America. Thank you!

  2. Wokechoke says:

    Biden will probably revoke Lee’s citizenship. Sick old bastard.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Franz
    , @Itajara
  3. The libby-dib smug get mugged.

  4. El Dato says:

    Only after having him forcefully vaccinated in the grave. Only then.

  5. Mathew says:

    Defending the Confederacy and its obvious history of racism and slavery is simply foolish. The Confederacy was manufactured by the British banks and oligarchy as a “divide and conquer” mechanism after having been defeated in the American revolution. This is what the British have done, always.

    Tear down every statue of every Confederate. They are all traitors.

  6. aandrews says:

    [A bit of minutia: The Atlantic was adamantly pro-Union during the Civil War.]
    Why the Confederate Flag Flew During World War II
    Matthew Delmont
    June 14, 2020

    The U.S. Navy and Marine Corps recently decided to ban the Confederate flag from military installations, and the Army is considering renaming 10 bases named after Confederate generals. But if you want to understand how the U.S. military came to embrace the Confederate flag in the first place, the answers lie in World War II.

  7. General Lee could shit a better man than Northam.

  8. @Mathew

    Tear down every statue of every Confederate. They are all traitors.

    Their country was CSA, to which they obviously were not traitors. You’re talking fed-slave populist rot. The reason they had to form their own country was definitely traitorous. Ol’ Honest Ape, Constitution-rapist.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  9. @Priss Factor

    For the folks who don’t live in this area or have no understanding of the people who do live in the area, don’t feel sorry for them. I have lived in California my whole life and these people are most likely dyed in the wool leftists, who even now are going to support the toxic leftist governor Gavin Newsom in his recall bid. He should be thrown out for so many reasons I can’t even list here.. Gavin Newsom is the reason for this out of control crime and so , most likely are the victims. Let me repeat that, Gavin Newsom’s policies and the support given to him by the victims of this crime are what caused them to be victims in the first place.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  10. A conservative “revolution” means a revolution on behalf of the corporations.

    Can’t weasel out of it. That’s the long and short of it. Period.

    Most revolutions are a lot of suffering over nothing. When it’s over and you’re miserable, or dead, remember I told you so.

    • Troll: Clyde, P. Cleburne
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    , @El Dato
    , @El Dato
  11. It is incredible to think of how prophetic Sam Francis was so long ago.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @moi
  12. @Mathew

    In my opinion, you failed to grasp the authors whole point. It was not to support slavery or racism. I can see how ever, why you think the confederacy was created by the British.. Divide and conquer has always been their method.

  13. Gregory Hood: “Slavery may have been the root cause of the war, but removing it or preserving it was not the main goal of either side. ”

    What complete idiocy! Are we then supposed to believe that the Union soldiers, who would sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic before marching to their deaths in a fusillade of cannon and gun fire, and which contained the line “let us die to make men free”, were all insincere? And that making negroes citizens and giving them the vote was an entirely unrelated accident that just happened to take place immediately after the war’s conclusion? Pretty damn strange coincidence if it wasn’t the main goal.

    This sort of revisionism by so-called white advocates isn’t helping their cause, unless their cause is keeping white people in the dark as to the real reasons for their decline.

  14. nsa says:

    Many military historians consider Robert E. Lee to be an pompous egotistical fool, politically inept, and militarily a moron. Typical of this line of thought is “How Robert E Lee Lost the Civil War” by Bonekemper. The gist is that if Lee had stayed on his side of the Potomac and fought defensively, the South could have held out indefinitely….or at least until Northern public opinion tired of Lincoln’s aggressive war. However, Lee foolishly crossed the Potomac and attacked the Union Army head on, inflicting massive casualties and absorbing almost as large losses. At Gettysburg (Pennsylvania), Lee took 40,000 casualties i.e. 1/3 his army and essentially the war was lost. The two main problems: 1) the Union had more manpower and a larger army, so was better able to absorb the massive casualties and 2) by invading the North and inflicting heavy losses on the Union army, he solidified Northern public opinion against the South and made it impossible for Northern politicians to promise anything other than total victory. However, Lee’s stupidity does not justify destroying a nice antique monument. If this keeps up, the yids will be demanding the Arch of Titus be torn down

  15. Gregory Hood, General Lee’s statue was torn down and destroyed. You will do nothing about that, nor the next destruction of historical artifacts. So stop writing about it, as if you will take some unspecified action in some fantasy universe. By your nature, you are especially powerless.

    • Agree: Thim
    • Replies: @JustTheFactsMaam
  16. @schnellandine

    The Jews surrounding President Abraham today are politely referred to as “northern industrialists”. The South fought the Jew and the Jew won. The Constitution died at Appomattox. Sans federalism it was already not the Constitution.

    The twin pillars of American Empire are Abraham and Wilson. The later, also surrounded by Jews, gave us World War One, the IRS and the Fed.

    • Agree: Irish Savant
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    , @Mevashir
  17. Just a quibble, Mr. Hood, but real Southerners call it the Rebel Flag. People will know what you mean.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
  18. My great grandmother was a Lee. The general is a cousin. It is sickening to see what those Northern Virginia scum are doing to the state. I guess the only thing I can say about taking down the great generals statue is that it is fitting that he not be memorialized in a city that is full of white liberal pussies and feral blacks who have often sent the murder rate of that shithole city into the top ten nationally. What does a great general have to do with that place anyway?
    I increasingly have no feeling of connection nor loyalty to this sinking polyglot boarding house of a country. When it dies from the financial implosion that is coming, I will shrug and enjoy the fate of Northern Virginia which perpetrates this heinous bullshit upon me. As it is completely dependent on the largesse of the federal government to keep it in its horse shit liberal politics… when that federal government is done… so are the woke pussies in Nova.
    I will say hurrah on that day.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Thanks: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @Mhunter
  19. Franz says:

    Biden will probably revoke Lee’s citizenship. Sick old bastard.

    Technocratic, sick whitetrash such as Sleepy Joe are the ones who broke the Great Compromise in the first place.

    Working men, farmers, small business owners had no part in this. Media and Liberal Arts collegiate scum did this. They felt the old Civil Rights Movement deserved all the treason they could muster, and they went and did just that.

    The honest surprise here is Trump being consistent. He defended Lee earlier, as president, when asked his opinion about this monument or another. Trump then called Lee a “great American hero.” So The Donald can stick to his guns. Impressive.

  20. as a handsome, well hung, Asian man who grew up in America:
    – i agree w/the White man
    – i acknowledge the White man’s kindness & hospitality in accepting me as a refugee & offering me their country as a place of residence
    – i will forever be grateful to Americans
    – thus respect the White Man’s culture, heritage, and history

    What the Blacks are doing is wrong:
    – utterly destroying White culture, history, and accomplishments
    – utterly stealing, raping, impregnating White women to breed them out then claiming half breeds are full Blacks, lol
    – turning truth on it’s head by forcing “Black is Beautiful” propaganda down everyone’s throat! (we have eyes Blacks.. yall look like apes! stop that crap!)

    FYI: Edward Bernays, father of propaganda, “persuaded” women to smoke. before Bernays, women were too sensible to smoke.

    according to Sam Vaknin, PhD: today, for the 1st time in human history, women prefer men w/low IQ. look around in media, art, advertising, shows, music.. women are being nudged a certain way.

    ie. Rap Music is mindless, small minded, superficial, materialistic, and all about ego, bravado, false sense of self. every song, either directly or indirectly, is about big dicks, white girls, and money.

    • Agree: Katrinka, CelestiaQuesta
    • Thanks: Irish Savant
  21. Andreas says:

    City workers were to remove a 133-year-old time capsule and replace it with a new one that the governor said would “better reflect who we are as a people in 2021.” A whole team of “historians, educators, and artists” had come up with such things to include as “Stop Asian Hate” flyers, Kente cloth from the “400th commemoration of 1619,” and an expired COVID-19 vaccination vial. As of this writing, workers couldn’t find the old time capsule.

    We have lost our collective minds.

    Have Americans become so uneducated, fearful, and compliant that they will stand for what has happened in Richmond? The obvious answer is ‘yes’. And this includes the “leadership” from the top down.

    Lee was a gentlemen of integrity, honor and character. He was what we used to call a man. These qualities are what the statue of Lee symbolizes, not “racism”.

    Show me a single member of the political class today who could even make coffee for Lee, much less stand as a peer in the same room.

    Lee stood for every quality lacking in our “leadership” today. Isn’t that a remarkable coincidence?

    But, fear not, for there is always a silver lining.

    If there are any historians or archeologists left to unearth this politically-correct time capsule, they will know absolutely and unequivocally why the US spiraled into totalitarianism or outright collapsed when it did.

  22. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Jacobians are the same in every era – maniacal in their intolerance, zealous in their destruction, and barbarous in their behavior. Our jacobians will most assuredly go after the founding fathers.

    And note, that the small hats do everything possibly to encourage the jacobians barbarians.

  23. @Mathew

    “The land was denuding itself of its accustomed inhabitants and their places had not yet been taken by the wreckage of Eastern Europe…Immigrants were coming into the states at about a million head a year…Somewhere in the background, though he did not know it, was the ‘representative’ American, who traced his blood through three or four generations and who, controlling nothing and affecting less, protested that…all foreign elements could and would soon be assimilated into ‘good Americans.’ And not a soul cared what he said…What stuck me…was the apparent waste and ineffectiveness, in the face of the foreign inrush, of all the indigenous effort of the past generation. It was them that I first began to wonder whether Abraham Lincoln had not killed too many autochthonous ‘Americans’ in the Civil War, for the benefit of their hastily imported Continental supporters. This is black heresy, but I have since met men and women who have breathed it. The weakest of the old-type immigrants had been sifted and salted by the long sailing voyage of those days. But steam began in the later sixties and early seventies, when human cargoes could be delivered with all their imperfections in a fortnight or so. And one million more-or-less acclimatized Americans had been killed.”—Rudyard Kipling

  24. anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    The map just below, of the now 26 out of 50 states declaring against the Biden national vax mandate, is visibly a map of USA break-up … heartland versus elite-dominated northeast and west coast. It could start with something like the recent suggestion of Tom Luongo that

    If the Federales comes to Tallahassee, Gov. DeSantis should quietly meet them with force and arrest them

    State arrests some feds, more feds are sent in, other states support, national guard units called out, state citizen militias are deputised, national troops start to defect, lone wolf vets take out the power grid etc … unfolding somewhere between the quick fall of Berline wall & Soviet Union, or the Yugoslavia break-up wars in the Balkans

    With major anti-vax sentiment thinking mRNA Pfizer Moderna etc vax is a ‘kill shot’ with massive death in a 2-to-10 year time frame, and big scientists even arguing toward this (Nobel Prize winner Dr Luc Montagnier, mRNA co-developer Dr Robert W Malone) … it seems people are ready to shoot over the issue of forced vaxing as deadly threat

  25. RouterAl says:

    I live in the UK and in 2017 went on my US Civil War tour, so I managed to see the Richmond statues plus visit most of the battle fields, before I went I read many of the autobiographies of those who fought and almost no one fought for the “colored’s” , they became important only when Lincoln pulled a politicians trick to save a sinking cause and issue the emancipation proclamation.
    I found this quote in a post on this site and it’s so good I copied it and retained it

    “Abraham Lincoln could not see the forest for the trees.
    He had but one obsession preserving the union, but was to stupid to understand that you cannot preserve a union by force, you can only take a prisoner.
    By definition you can’t create a union by war, you can only take the unwilling partner prisoner (arguably making him a slave), against his will.
    Which is why we’re in a second civil war. Because the union was never preserved, because half of the country didn’t want and still does not want the America that Lincoln’s racial policies were domed to create, the horrors of which we see playing out today. ”

    At the end on my trip I visited the last campsite of the Confederate generals near Appomattox
    My favourite quote from General Longstreet
    ” When men volunteer to fight in their countries cause they should be credited with faith in it’s righteousness and with expectations of meeting soldiers worthy of their mettle.Appeals to turn their strength against women and children and non-combatants are offensive to manhood , demoralizing in influence and more likely to aggravate and prolong the war spirit than to open ways of order and amity.”
    It certainly leaves Grant, Sheridan and especially Sherman in a bad light and can be applied to most war since the civil war, as more and more armies target civilians.

    The problem with the white west is we have lost God so idiots like Northam and many others worship blacks , money , Jews and the LBQT mob instead, it why they are so lost.

    • Replies: @One-off
    , @Anon
    , @Anonymous
  26. gotmituns says:

    An interesting thing about the taking down of the statue is it was a White rigging outfit who did the job. Does that mean they couldn’t find a black owned rigging company to do the job? Actually, the better question is just what is it blacks can do?

    • Replies: @Colonel Dolma
  27. @Gina Schrank

    The inherent flaw in fleeing to rural America is that the flight from cities is exactly why we are in this situation as whites abandoned the centers of power to regress in the suburbs and rural America after the Jewish tricks to infest and pollute the cities.

    It seems they’re using the same successful tactic again.

    Soon enough the children of the Afghans being flown into America today will have more power and wealth than your own children just like past waves of the Jews’ occupation forces, aka, immigrants, have taken over and live in million dollar homes and have six figure salaries while you don’t.

    • Agree: Reverend Goody
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  28. @WorkingClass

    That’s really helpful. I get it feels cathartic to say stupid stuff like that, but seriously, how about putting that anger towards something actually productive.

  29. I wonder how long it’ll take for them to blow up Rushmore, & change the name of Washington State & District…. Sooner rather than later it may seem. I wonder whether that would have those of European ancestry finally frothing at the mouth angry….. Or simply sitting back with a frothy cappaccino…..

  30. Tom Welsh says:

    “Democracy is inherently dynamic,” the court added. “Values change and public policy changes too.”

    As many, many, many victims of US government treachery could testify – if most of them hadn’t died of it. Starting, perhaps, with the Native Americans.

    As Mr Putin and some of his colleagues have remarked, the US government is incapable of keeping agreements – so there is no point negotiating with it.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  31. All this bullshit pandering to placate orcs who even today couldn’t forge such a statue and who will wreck everything within 10 minutes of becoming the majority.

    Fk you governor blackface.

    Look around you.

    The South was right.

    • Agree: Katrinka, Robert Dolan
  32. Raches says:

    General Lee is in good company.  He joins Albert Leo Schlageter, the sixteen martyrs of the Feldherrnhalle, and numerous others.  It is fitting:  They who wage war on the South have anyway decided that flying a Confederate flag makes you tantamount to a “Nazi”.

    The U.S.A. has a long history of tearing down monuments, ridiculing heroes, defaming the war dead of defeated honorable adversaries—and breaking promises, too.

    Mr. Hood:

    Many Americans think the Constitution — an eighteenth-century document — will secure their rights. They are clearly wrong.

    Anyone who worships a scrap of paper is clearly nuts.  Pieces of paper have no will, and take no actions:  Men have, and do.

    A government of good men under a poorly conceived constitution, or no constitution, is infinitely preferable to any government of corrupt swindlers and cheap political jobbers—even if, hypothetically, the latter were under a most excellent constitution.  Those who do not hold the individual and collective quality of human beings first and foremost are living in a fantasy, in which magical scraps of paper and incantations can substitute for personal honor and personal wisdom. ®

  33. BrutusVa says:

    The rationale for cutting the statue up is a lie. There are no underpasses between it’s location and the Goochland Woman’s Correctional Center.

  34. Tom Welsh says:

    In fact there has always been slavery, since the dawn of time; and today there are certainly more slaves worldwide than there were in 1860. Americans and others bought and used slaves because it paid better than the alternatives, and when slavery ceased to pay they abandoned it and demanded applause for their virtue.

    Before the “Civil War” many of the richest and most powerful families in the North derived their wealth from dealing in slaves. If you will dip into “The Education of Henry Adams”, you will find passages such as this (from Chapter II):

    “The Free Soil Party fared ill in Beacon Street. The social arbiters of Boston–George Ticknor and the rest–had to admit, however unwillingly, that the Free Soil leaders could not mingle with the friends and followers of Mr. Webster. Sumner was socially ostracized, and so, for that matter, were Palfrey, Dana, Russell, Adams, and all the other avowed anti-slavery leaders, but for them it mattered less, because they had houses and families of their own; while Sumner had neither wife nor household, and, though the most socially ambitious of all, and the most hungry for what used to be called polite society, he could enter hardly half-a-dozen houses in Boston. Longfellow stood by him in Cambridge, and even in Beacon Street he could always take refuge in the house of Mr. Lodge, but few days passed when he did not pass some time in Mount Vernon Street. Even with that, his solitude was glacial, and reacted on his character. He had nothing but himself to think about. His superiority was, indeed, real and incontestable; he was the classical ornament of the anti-slavery party; their pride in him was unbounded, and their admiration outspoken”.

    You can find free copies online, e.g.

  35. Anon[763] • Disclaimer says:

    As a foreigner it is perfectly obvious that you are a victim of a deeply flawed education system which has rewritten history to suit their own left wing agenda. I feel really sorry for you, because those who do not learn from history will be forced to relive it.

  36. Schuetze says:

    Although I deplore the destruction of historical monuments in order to assuage the inferiority complex of negroes horny for a white genocide, America needs to face up to a closet stuffed full of generations of skeletons.

    The “Civil War” was a genocidal masonic shit show just like the US and French Revolutions before, and WWI and WWII afterwards. Until the US can come to terms with the magnitude of the lies and the complete falsity of the history they have been taught, they will be easy marks for Freemasons, Jews and other life time actors preying on their naiveté .

    Lee was a high level Freemason, and when he resigned from the US Army to lead the Army of Virginia, it was not on behalf of the “South”, the Confederacy, or his fellow citizens of Virginia. Lee took control of the Army of Virginia on behalf of his Masonic brothers. His orders were to bleed both the North and the South of their proud and independent white strength, and help Albert Pike set up the planet for WWI, WWII and WWIII. It is likely no coincidence that Pike’s statue in Washington on the other side of the Potomac is still standing, having received special protection and consideration from Brother Donald Trump.

    The biggest questions about Lee that Americans need to to come to terms with, is how many battles did he throw to the Union, and how many hundreds of thousands of honorable Confederates did he sacrifice to his Masonic agenda. Picket never forgave Lee for sacrificing his divisions in a fruitless charge uphill into Union grapeshot, but the truth is the entire invasion was deliberately ill conceived and ill planned. There were other battles and moves by Lee that are highly suspect as well.

    After the war, Lee went unpunished and this is also a tell. The media of the time built him up and put him on a pedestal, another tell. One would have expected him to be treated as a war criminal, like Jefferson Davis, but the other high ranking masons had already determined how he would be treated after the war, before they even got the war started.

    Another interesting question that needs answers would be if Judah Benjamin was actually a bigger traitor than Robert E. Lee.

    • Agree: RedpilledAF, Thim
  37. BCB232 says:

    “Occasionally, leftists say that World War II soldiers were the “original antifa.”


    The ones I knew (e.g. the Anglo ones) barely tolerated “wops” and “dagos” let alone blacks. The ones who were “wops” and “dagos” thought the blacks were “eggplants.” They were all “anti-Semitic” by today’s standards.

    The average WWII GI was a lot more “racist” than Jared Taylor is.

  38. Itajara says:

    You do know he’s dead, right?
    He’s dead, Jim.

    I say let the south hang on to their stupid statues. If they want to guard them with guns while wearing white sheets- I say let them do that too. People get offended over the stupidest shit. Its a piece of inert metal. Get over it.

    While they have pride in them now, the tides of opinion will slowly change. Look at how hated MLK Jr was 60 years ago, and where hes at now. Eventually, ye’ old micro-Dixies will want to tear down the statues themselves- as it will be a shameful reminder of their lost cause. Sort of like Germany keeping some of the camps around to remind the nationalists and deniers “yeah, that shit went down. you dumbass turd burgers.”

    “Nationalism is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind.” -Einstein

  39. Governor Northam’s legal team told the state supreme court that the Lee monument sent a message that “many believe contradicts the values of equality, inclusion, and diversity.”

    What has this to do with the law? Do the courts now base legal judgements on the basis of what ‘many believe’ rather than on the law or the Constitution on which that law is based?

    The answer of course is ‘yes’.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    , @HammerJack
  40. They compare us to the Taliban but who over here is blowing up offensive statues like the Taliban erasing the historical Buddhist statues over there.

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  41. Bro43rd says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    If only UR had a “statist troll” button I wouldn’t feel the need to reply to your igno”rant” comment.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  42. Emslander says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    I increasingly have no feeling of connection nor loyalty to this sinking polyglot boarding house of a country.

    General Lee was a powerful symbol even during the Civil War. His abilities were monumental, but his presence in the minds of his soldiers and all southerners was nearly as important. Jefferson Davis was an office clerk compared to him.

    However, the South kept the war going far beyond its military strength or Lee’s abilities because it knew what it was fighting for. It was fighting for its own farms, towns and states. That included the institution of slavery. Slavery would have evolved into something like today’s technological owner-worker suppression, but it was, instead, turned into a perpetual cancer on the possibility of national identity.

    More American soldiers died in the Civil War than in any other war we’ve fought. It won’t end. Now Biden is a Lincoln without the poetry and the Union is trying to kill us with health care mandates.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  43. @anonymous

    The problem with this is that almost all of these red states have large urban areas that are overwhelmingly blue . The divide is more urban/rural than geographic. Which complicates matters.

    • Replies: @anti_republocrat
  44. Schuetze says:

    “the South kept the war going far beyond its military strength or Lee’s abilities because it knew what it was fighting for”

    Lee deliberately kept the south fighting in order to bleed it dry and cause maximum fatalities. His masonic brothers did exactly the same thing in WWI and WWII.

    • LOL: Emslander
    • Troll: Raches
    • Replies: @Eureka!
  45. Rather that attempt to reiterate all of this, I cut and pasted it from an e-mail that I composed a few years ago. It was part of longer transmission that was mainly concerned with the character of a Southern Gentleman and what traits defined the traditional Southerner. I omitted most of it, but I selected the portion that dealt specifically with General Lee, and I inserted the conclusion where I asked why there was still such a prevalence of fervent U. S. Patriotism in The South?:

    “When it comes to being a subject of the United States, I think that Ex-Governor Fletcher Stockdale put it best when he attended a gathering of prominent men at the home of Union General Rosecrans in White Sulphur Springs Virginia, in the Summer of 1870. As Rosecrans went around the table questioning the Southern men assembled there as to the condition of their respective States, Gov. Stockdale thought “the replies struck him as entirely too sycophantic and insincere.” Rosecrans turned to him saying, “Now, Governor Stockdale, let us hear how your gallant Texans feel about the old government and the old flag.” Stockdale replied, “General Rosecrans, since that day in June, 1865, when General Merritt with his soldiers drove me from the Government House, I have held no office in Texas, and have not been authorized by the people of Texas to represent them in anything; but I know them well, and I am sure that you may say this: the people of Texas will remain quiet, and not again resort to forceful resistance against the Federal government, whatever may be the measures of the government.”

    General Rosecrans began, “Ah, that is good news from our gallant Texas…,” when Fletcher stopped him, saying, “General Rosecrans, candor requires me to explain the attitude of my people. The people of Texas have made up their minds to remain quiet under all aggressions and to have peace; but they have none of the Spaniel in their composition. No, sir, they are not in the least like the dog that seeks to lick the hand of the man who kicked him; but, it is because they are a very sensible, practical, common sense people, and understand their position. They know that they resisted the Federal government as long as any means of resistance was left, and that any attempt at resistance now must be in vain; and they have no means, and would only make bad worse. This is the view of the matter which keeps Texas quiet.”

    This was the same meeting at which Stockdale later stated the Robert E. Lee confided in him that, “Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand.” So, when I am told to quit paying my taxes or to move away if I don’t like the United States Government, I can rightfully claim that going to jail for tax evasion will solve nothing, and, I am a Texian first, a Southerner second, and a subject of the U. S. Government by the point of a bayonet. Our ancestors resisted until resistance proved futile, it didn’t mean they had to be grateful for their defeat.

    And, when prepubescent children are being encouraged to undergo hormone therapy to mutate their gender identities; when Homosexuals can parade down the street in g-strings waving dildos, but people in the South are denied the right to wave the flag of their ancestors; when entire cities are being overrun by illegal aliens without any serious effort at deterrence; when wages have remained nearly stagnate for two and a half decades and hours have decreased to less than 30 for many employees as a result of this influx of foreign labor; when millions of Americans are displaced, homeless and living a marginal existence, while housing and financial and material aid is doled out to refugees and asylum seekers from across the globe; when our taxes are increased and then squandered on foreign aid and costly grants for useless social programs; when all of the Nation’s founders are under siege and the threat of being eternally cast as villains or erased from memory entirely; when all of this is taken into consideration, what exactly are you so fond of and inseparably attached to?”

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired, 3g4me
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  46. @anonymous

    A really compelling map is one that is broken down by county. You will find that there is a Sea of Red from Dallas to Minneapolis, and from the Mississippi River to the Rocky Mountains. In addition, approximately 89% of Chicago is Red. 75% of Washington and Oregon are Red. West and North of the Southern Coastal Regions from San Diego up to San Francisco, the State of California is mostly Red. New England is Completely Blue, with the exception of one Red County in Maine, that I call a result of “climate change.” In The South, the Blue regions are clustered along the I-20 corridor, the Mississippi River, and most of the large Cities.

    The point is, The Red Areas nearly encompass all of the Blue Regions, often for hundreds of miles. The Blue Sections are either surrounded or backed up against borders, rivers and oceans, and are dependent on the high traffic corridors that connect them to other, food producing, Red Zones. I’ve often pointed out the solution arrived at in the films “Escape From New York” and “Escape From Los Angeles.” They could be walled off, quarantined, and transformed into Penal Colonies.

  47. Trinity says:

    I was going to ask about the statue of Lenin in Seattle, but I see it is located on private property. Pretty distasteful to say the least considering how many people this guy had murdered.

    • Replies: @GMC
  48. Without the White Christians there is no America; it’s only a place where a bunch of desperado congregate!

  49. BtownRex says:

    You’re talking about the woke corporations, right? News flash, the American left are just as much in with the corporations ever since Occupy Wall St

  50. Walter says:

    Lee’s perfect record at West Point stands mute.

    It ought to be said that his cadet oath at West Point was to Virginia, not to the Federal State.

    He kept his oath.

    • Disagree: Schuetze
  51. moi says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Cannibalistic America will devour its own.

  52. @Mathew

    I come from PA Quakers stock. Both sides of my family tree too. Neither side fought due to peaceable principles. I still live in PA, like all my ancestors before me since 1682. Quakers have been always anti slavery. Guess what? I thought taking down history and artwork that the Robert E Lee statute represented was a travesty. It is also an act of genocide to erase history. Besides Calvin Coolidge and Teddy Roosevelt, Robert E Lee is one of my most respected American historical figures. Nor do I find it responsible to judge history. Things rarely happen in a vacuum, so you learn from them instead.

    Sincerely, a descendant of Roman slaves.

  53. GMC says:

    The Zionist Jew Empire who runs the USG , lock , stock and barrel, are burying all sacred US history of the past. In order to do this , they use the ignorance and low IQ of the populace as their proxy armies. None of these pods, that have joined the NWO cause have a clue about the history of the USA , so it is easy to program and propagandise them. Just like they use al Qaeda, Isis, Boko Harem and the rest of their proxies in their foreign policy , we see multiple domestic proxy armies.

    Even the professors, researchers, etc. in Universities are writing lies, twisted narratives of history and they get away with it because of the prestigious institutions that are nothing more than paid Bordellos for the Zionists. History News Network comes to mind when I read their BS years ago.

    So what is going to replace the original History of the USA ? Or maybe nothing will take the place of US History , since there is nothing that all these ignorant low lifes would remember – anyways. Maybe America will get lucky and all these idiots that took the jab – will be Gone in a few years. lol

  54. The people that are doing this are the same people that renamed Saint Petersburg, Leningrad. And now it’s Saint Petersburg again and has been lovingly restored to its former glory.

    All these statues can be recast, and all the statues of MLK and “holocaust memorials” that litter the country can be torn down.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
  55. KenH says:
    @Priss Factor

    No biggie since all three white people think race is stupid, that white “racists” should be killed and voted for Joe Biden.

  56. GMC says:

    Maybe that was the idea . To keep a statue of Lenin around, so maybe the Americans would get the drift – someday. Doesn’t look like that worked, so maybe Lenin , did have some pretty good ideology -that got sidelined by Trotsky and the Zionist Bolsheviks.
    I’m sure there are some good Americans left in the US Gov. but they don’t dare open there mouths. The US Chka might pay them a visit.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  57. One-off says:

    While an argument can be made that United States imperialism started with war against Mexico, it certainly solidified with the invasion of the American South. Fortunately United States imperialism ended with the utter humiliation in the Hindu Kush and the Evil Empire of Woke is circling the drain.

    If you are around in another 20 years, you probably will be able to visit Civil War sites although the narrative will have changed to correctly reflect the raw evil the former United States Empire inflicted on the South and the world.

  58. They never let us secede without the full might of the woke military coming down on us. Why do you think they are pushing chubby black girls thru West Point. There is nothing angrier and more entitled than a chubby black girl with a fancy degree. Spare me the Taliban argument. They conditionally surrendered almost 20 yrs ago. The US kept them around for some reason, and even armed them. Funny how the Taliban knows how to use our military equipment.

    Networking locally as supply chains are breaking down is the key. Learn a skill besides blogging and podcasting. You can do both. Having provisions to keep you healthy is a must. Bartering within our networks is important. Also can some committed white boys swallow their bile, and go to work for any infrastructure businesses. Yes, you’ll be stuck with dumb affirmative action management types. Believe it or not there will be power in being one of the few who knows how to keep things turned on and moving. You also tend to be unionized in such work . Can you imagine the damage a good old trucker strike could do right now? Or a longshoreman strike? If you are really bright, become a logistics expert. They’ll be in high demand by the woke lords as their current system breaks down and their MBAs render them useless.

  59. Maddaugh says:

    I am always amazed when 13% of the population, most of whom are in jail and the majority not incarcerated on welfare, call the shots. The remaining minority, rip off their own blacks “defending them against Whitey” and when they have enough money, leave their wiggers behind and move into Whitelandia.

    Now that the Lee statue is down, we should cast one of some black criminal in a Pimp Mobile (horses are passe) and mount it up. Only blacks will be allowed to attend the opening ceremony or visit the site. Whites will have to pay homage and if passing within one mile, take off their hats and bow.

    When will all this nonsense end ? And how ?

  60. It’s appalling vandalism that this fine old statue was destroyed. Its removal from a prominent public space was long overdue, however. Lee became the “marble man,” the symbol around which the lost cause myth would crystallize, because he was just about the only prominent Confederate leader whose reputation had not been sullied by his own venal conduct during the insurrection. The war, you’ll recall, came about because a clique of wealthy aristocrats refused to accept the outcome of a free presidential election they had done their level best to sabotage. Their propaganda machine painted Lincoln as a fire-breathing Abolitionist who would free the slaves by executive decree immediately on taking office, granting them full political and social equality – and the right to “amalgamate” with your daughters and sisters, whether they wanted to or not – and that his running mate, the nationally unknown Hannibal Hamlin of Maine, was himself a Negro. Southern activists sabotaged the Democratic convention in Charleston, ultimately splitting that party into three factions, virtually guaranteeing the election of the antislavery man their strategists expected the GOP to run. This would give their long-planned war against Washington the appearance of a legitimate act of protecting their property rights. But the GOP instead nominated Lincoln precisely because he was a moderate on the slavery issue, as he affirmed in his memorable First Inaugural Address. Running a radical antislavery candidate would have been the suicide of the young Republican Party, which was formed not to end slavery but to reestablish popular control over the expansion of slavery by an out-of-control special interest lobby that had shown its contempt for the democratic processes again and again in Congress and the packed Supreme Court.

    Lee was not the great military tactician his advocates claim. The war was the south’s to lose. Lee’s impetuousness to attack, to always attack even when there was no advantage to be gained, cost the south dearly in its one irreplaceable resource, its manpower. In real life Lee’s greatest contribution to America was indeed his General Order No. 9, in which he acknowledged defeat and urged his men to return to their homes, obey the laws, and live peaceably. The rebel political leadership, at the bitter “last ditch” was as out of touch with reality as ever, howling for the war to continue as a guerrilla war after Appomattox, but Lee said, no more. Without Lee’s order, the Confederate Liberation Army might still be bombing airports and this nation would be a balkanized, full-fledged military dictatorship.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @ClaraBell
  61. Joodie says:

    So glad that in the Unz Review we have a site where these kinds of stories and opinions can be widely shared, unlike creepy sites like Breitbart and The Gateway Pundit.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  62. Katrinka says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s the Stars and Bars. Flying proudly on my front porch.

    • Replies: @GMC
  63. Please think this through. All statues are symbols of power over you. The statues, portraits, names on building or bridges, etc are reminders that you are a subject to a power structure. The gov’t is the single largest and successful criminal enterprise in history and some of you want to hold the long dead politicians and military murders up as some kind of role model. Why?

    When these people were alive they used force, fraud and coercion to get their way. These were people much like the scum that controls the gov’t today. To place them on a pedestal, an actual pedestal, is signaling that you approve of the gov’ts previous actions. Those previous actions lead inexorably to today’s actions.

    There is no such thing as good gov’t, and to hold the previous criminals in veneration shows a serious lack of intelligence.

    • Disagree: Raches, Weaver
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Raches
    , @RestiveUs
  64. Katrinka says:

    The same thing can be said for Christians who worship the Bible. If a congregation of Christian men are unable or unwilling to make their beliefs and convictions the “law of the land” the religious exercises are meaningless.

  65. I couldn’t give less of a damn about a statue in Amerikastan, but how exactly does a state have the “right of free speech”? Isn’t this as absurd as “hurting the feelings” of a company since it’s an “artificial person”?

    If the state has a “right to free speech”, why can’t the statue?

    If I were a Taliban style troll, I would set up Lee statues just across the borders of Virginia…all looking across the border.

    That’ll show them.

  66. Tnmilfman says:

    Affirmative Action and Diversity Quotas are Corruption of Blood in action against the descendents of traitors. This is Unconstitutional. The 14th Amendment is an Attainder of Treason, being used against us, who have never been traitors. That is illegal.

  67. @Mathew

    I don’t give a damn about the Confederacy one way or another, but those people who support the removal of a statue in Virginia had better not have objections about the removal of a statue in Afghanistan.

    I think you understand what I’m saying.

  68. BCB232 says:

    “Occasionally, leftists say that World War II soldiers were the “original antifa.”

    Gotta love the left’s opportunistic reconstruction of the past. One minute our recent ancestors were racists, the next they were heroic leftists. Make up your mind!

    • Replies: @Insouciant
  69. ClaraBell says:

    They want to erase Southerners and our history. They have been doing this before the war of 1861-1865. Too bad people can’t see through it. Wake up!

  70. ClaraBell says:

    I disagree with your perceptions.

  71. @Raches

    Words without will may as well be fiction, that’s true. “Rights” themselves are a fiction, only given life because people have increasingly rallied around them in recent centuries. For that matter, borders are fictions if nobody can be bothered to defend their territory.

    However, one look at recent events in Australia shows that not having these fictions officially stated as a foundational document is a weakness that can be exploited. At the very least, a Constitution is a legal document, just as borders represent jurisdictions where specific laws are upheld. One can certainly argue that all laws are merely fictions, but that’s not generally persuasive in court.

    I don’t know about “worship,” but a few centuries of regarding something as important and worth preserving is meaningful. For better or worse, history is always made by people rallying around a central idea (or person or innovation). I’d say “nearly always,” but I can’t come up with an example of human advancement that was accomplished merely by good men being good without some kind of specific symbol animating them. I can think of a few times where such men were defeated, though…

  72. geokat62 says:

    “Nationalism is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind.” -Einstein

    Since Einstein was a Zionist, we need to update this quote:

    “Nationalism for goys is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind.”

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Sean
  73. Yeah, the “rebellion to come”. Seeing is believing. Those Southern boys don’t seem to have it in them anymore.

  74. lol…dude, there will be no revolt…we LOST…the elites brainwashed white kids already…that means they own most white minds…it’s OVER…all we can do now is accept it and take advantage of it…nonwhite wimmen CRAVE white dna…it’s white boy summer–IF you would realize it and take advantage of it…

  75. I guess it was conflicting with the graffiti artwork next to it. Maybe time to remove just one holocaust memorial for safe keeping.

  76. GMC says:

    And in my shop in Crimea !

  77. Mr. Hood,
    Excellent and moving article. I am watching my country be destroyed right before my eyes. We must resist. I hope we are not too late. Thank for for writing this message.

  78. Anon[959] • Disclaimer says:

    >Complain about people worshipping Jews


    • Replies: @teo toon
  79. 3g4me says:
    @Gina Schrank

    @1 Gina Schrank: “black populists” Sure, sugar britches, terrific idea – we’ll all know where to find you among black rural ‘murrica.

  80. Thim says:

    Lee was a loser. He refused to fight to win. Oh, what a beautiful loser!!

    I prefer winners.

  81. 3g4me says:

    @24 anonymous [211]: Incorrect. Your map merely demonstrates the decreasing number of states where a majority of counties still contain sufficient Whites to put up a pretense of protest. Iowa is going mestizo thanks to the meatpacker plants. Maine and Vermont have succumbed to the Massholes and Somalis; New Hampshire is sure to follow soon. The homosexuals are colonizing parts of West Virginia. Idaho is filling up with rapefugees – and is one of the prime destinations (chosen by the feds) for the Afghan ‘translators’ and their extended families. The parts of South Carolina and Tennessee that are not black are falling to more ‘fellow whites’ and various northern pestilence that is overflowing what used to be North Carolina. Texas is heavily purple and its republicons are proud members of Conservative, Inc.

    Your ‘heartland’ has no real heart. There will be some smaller, isolated, rural outposts of sanity that will survive, but this vision of half the country retaking its freely-given liberty over the clotshot is just wishful thinking. Thousands of the ‘anti vaxxers’ will think about their jobs and their stuff and ultimately take the shot. Those of us who are bitter clingers to the end will be a much, much smaller number.

  82. teo toon says:

    Well then, Matty, you might as well tear down every statue to any general or politician who supported WWI and/or WWII; because they were also complicit in the planning of both wars and our military and political whores cooperated with them.

  83. 3g4me says:
    @Irish Savant

    @39 Irish Savant: The ‘law’ is whatever their ‘feelings’ say it is. It was never more than a patina of legitimacy over power by force of arms and immigrants.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  84. teo toon says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Are we then supposed to believe that the Union soldiers, who would sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic before marching to their deaths in a fusillade of cannon and gun fire

    The uninitiated, the laity, are never told the true nature of an event or a movement.

  85. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Slavery was the indirect cause of the war. The South seceded, in large part, to keep it. You could call it the “root” cause, but slavery was why the South left the union, not why there was a war.

    There was war because Lincoln invaded the South (after tricking it into firing first at Ft. Sumter). Southerners were defending their homeland. It’s hard for people to understand it these days, but populations in 1861 were loyal to their states first — not the national government.

  86. teo toon says:

    Atheist, ignorantly thinking Judaism which is Pharseeism, which is the tradition of the elders, which is the synagogue of Satan, has anything to do with biblical Hebraism; a trait shared by equally repugnant Christian-Zionists and Christian Israel Firsters.

    • Replies: @Anon
  87. Anonymous[900] • Disclaimer says:

    “Democracy is inherently dynamic,” the court added

    Well, there’s a non sequitur. If the franchise is restricted to a group of voters of more or less constant number of more or less the same ethnicity, it won’t be very dynamic at all. In fact, the more unequal the distribution of capital in said group, the more un-dynamic it’ll be (poor people depend on rich people). This was a fairly retarded gloss on the “creative destruction” meme from Virginia Supreme Court

  88. I refuse to run into the backwoods of rural America for sanctuary or to secede from lands of our nation. I refuse to give up my guns that protect me from black criminal thugs unleashed upon society to inflect cruel and unusual punishment upon my self, family and friends.
    Let the showdown begin, I’m tired of being stalked, hunted and targeted by GlobalHomo degenerates, BLM goons, Antifa wankers and government leeching communists.
    I want revenge.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @psbindy
  89. @Frank frank

    I appreciate your sentiment, but seriously, what should normal people do if they live in LA or similar police state in the making? What about a couple trying to raise healthy, well-adjusted, free children? Stay and be surveilled, hárassed, taxed, and have the children’s minds indoctrinated and wasted? Wait for government “orders” to do anything or go anywhere? Have the children masked and muffled forty, fifty, sixty hours per week? Stay and be physically attacked and permanently injured again, as I was? Live every day around people seething with paranoia, fear, distrust, and dislike of anyone who thinks or chooses differently than they do?

    Our votes, and what little money and influence we might have, are wasted here. It is getting worse fast and staying here is an demeaning, demoralizing, tiring, risky option for us and our children. Costly in more ways than the financial one.

    We can come back and visit friends, escape colder weather for some weeks, and see some of our favorite attractions, parks, museums, and so on. But this is no longer a wise place for a primary residence for most people. You do not want these people having direct control over your safety, your rights, and your children’s upbringing.

    Sometimes you have to cut your losses. Leave where you cannot win and go where you can. Restore part of the country rather than none.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  90. @Priss Factor

    Those three white wiggers are the same dumbass whites who voted for Obama, Obiden, and who praise and cheer BLM, CRT and anti-white hate. It’s now in their face and they are the ones responsible for their own demise.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  91. @animalogic

    Well said. But more and more Americans, white and otherwise, are going to find they’re more concerned with finding adequate food than finding their next latte. As intended, presumably.

  92. Cowboy says:

    People need ‘scrapes of paper’ because freedom is too dizzying for most. Revolutionaries try to introduce new ‘scrapes of paper’ (or in the current reality digital crumbs?) by which new universals are propagandized as enlightened ‘scrapes’ to replace the old ‘scrapes’. When Russia lost it’s ‘scrapes’ the Bolsheviks came rushing in.

    Perhaps you’ll enlighten us on how your ‘scrapes’ of “individual and collective quality of human beings” and “personal honor and personal wisdom. ®” will save us from the other bad ‘scrapes’?

    • Replies: @Raches
  93. Eureka! says:

    The most ignorant comment I’ve ever read on Unz.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  94. @Tom Welsh

    The flaw in the Court’s logic is, in my opinion, that while it is true that

    “Democracy is inherently dynamic,” … “Values change and public policy changes too.”

    That does not release the government from a contract. It is perfectly entitled to say it no longer wishes to “faithfully guard it and affectionately protect it”. That doesn’t translate into destroying the statue and illegally seizing the land upon which the statue stood. The gift ought to have been returned.
    I find it ironic that the neither the politicians nor courts seem to have an understanding of what “commonwealth” means.

  95. @Skyler the Weird

    They may have pulled out of Afghanistan but America and the west are still occupied by CultMarx Commies hellbent on the destruction of the white human race. It was never about Islamic Jihad, all they wanted were poppy fields to numb the peoples mind and mineral rich lands to exploit and enrich themselves.
    Until we refuse to become collateral damage in their quest for GlobalHomo world domination, we will be forever marked as useless slaves in their One World, One Gender Rainbow caliphate.

  96. @Itajara

    A very sad and pathetic post. King isn’t loved as he is roundly ignored by the leftist racists that find King’s statements very inconvenient. Lee may be dead, but the character he represents, and exemplifies, is not.

    You are utterly clueless about what “a piece of inert metal” represents, and why monuments exist. Like the typical leftist, you have no attachment to your country, nor to its history. In short, you are no better than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Castro.

  97. @BCB232

    “Occasionally, leftists say that World War II soldiers were the “original antifa.”

    Think it through: this is an admission that Jewish zionists were the protagonists of WWII, and “the greatest Americans” were their dupe-warriors.

    iow an admission that holohoax is a fraud.

  98. SafeNow says:

    A few years ago Denise Ho of Yale wrote a book about Mao’s China called “Curating Revolution.” Mao’s China emphasized going after the artifacts, both societal, and individual. “Proof of crime” and “ironclad evidence” the artifacts were called. So, the template we are seeing is not new, and, it is ominous.

  99. Anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @teo toon

    I don’t care which real or imaginary Levantine faction you identify with. There is no God and aalewis is his prophet.

  100. @Mathew

    You stupid mick. What a foolish constellation of anglophobic hatred. The British had nothing to do with the confederacy bought most of their cotton from Egypt. To whatever extent the British were involved in the civil war it was to the great benefit of the Union when they refused to help their former colonists in the south; despite that being strategically the much wiser move.

    • Replies: @Patricus
    , @SurfingUSA
  101. El Dato says:

    A conservative “revolution” means a revolution on behalf of the corporations.


    Can’t weasel out of it. That’s the long and short of it. Period.


    Especially as corporations don’t need a revolution right now. They are doing quite well indeed.

  102. El Dato says:

    The Original Swastitruck spotted in DC:

    Capitol Police arrest man in Swastika-decorated truck with machete outside Democrat headquarters

    While on patrol late Sunday night, Capitol Police officers noticed a pickup truck emblazoned with swastikas and “other white supremacist symbols.” After pulling the truck over, officers saw that the driver was transporting a machete and a bayonet, both of which are illegal in Washington.

    The driver, 44-year-old Donald Craighead of Oceanside, California was arrested for possession of prohibited weapons. Officers said that as he was being led away, Craighead told police that he was “on patrol,” and “began talking about white supremacist ideology and other rhetoric pertaining to white supremacy.”

    He even has “Confederation” written on the dashboard, Mulder. That’s crazy.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
    , @Polistra
  103. El Dato says:

    Also, currently on my desk:

  104. Racism in 1860 was still a privilege for which people killed and died, in our time it is just stupid behavior of the socially unfit for civilization.

  105. Tearing down historical symbols be they statues, art works is somehow progressive?!. Will art museums be the next thing we read about in the news? Another example; should the Nazi submarine U boats be on display and people pay for a tour? I for one did a walk thru on the U 505, it was a fascinating experience. Are we obliged to strike out against this symbol? Five thousand German U-boat sailors went to the bottom, most of whom, I’d guess, never read Mein Kampf, took a wife or became a parent. How many are in Arlington Cemetery who never read the US Constitution or Bill of Rights? These soldiers, Naval or otherwise, fought for their countries, trusted leadership over talk and a lot of words. RIP one and all of them, east and west. Would we as a nation revile statutes of General Ulysses S. Grant? who was (allegedly) responsible for salting rich black soils so as to weaken the confederates by starving them? As for me, this whole matter is preposterous! I’m certainly not a Nazi, never had an inkling that the south should secede from the north but I do respect and honor all soldiers everywhere who fought because they were asked to defend their homeland. They and their leaders did what they thought was right during that unique historical period they were in. Keep the statues, keep the flags and keep the perspective on historical dedications and the memories in tact. This is (still) a free country, perhaps not for long tho, with those wild and woke shitlibs getting too much main stream media coverage…

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    , @Weaver
  106. Schuetze says:

    That is the most ignorant comment about ignorant comments I’ve ever read on Unz.

    Just look at this famous painting of Appomatix and check out that masonic hand shake. The entire painting is chock full of Masonic symbolism that the profane cannot and will not recognize.

    It is perfectly clear that Americans cannot deal with reality and haven’t done so for over a century.

    • Troll: Raches
    • Replies: @Weaver
  107. Patricus says:

    Interesting google search: Jewish Confederates. Many are extremely proud of their ancestors’ support for the Confederacy. They mostly deny the old trope about fighting to preserve slavery. At the beginning of the Civil war Georgia had the highest percentage of Jewish population in US. The great mass of Jewish immigrants came between 1880 and 1920. The latecomers had no skin in the American game.

    My ancestors were mostly Irish. On my mother’s side 22 fought in that war, 7 died, both sides. My father’s relatives immigrated in the last decade of the nineteenth century. At weddings and funerals a group always discusses the war and often turns up copies of another few battlefield letters. We now have nearly 300 of these letters on pdf files. These folks have a nuanced view of the hostilities. My father’s family is mystified by this interest in “ancient history” although they occasionally fume over ancient Irish history. That war remains the most important event in American history and the war is not over.

    Curious fact about the Civil War letters. Not a single soldier mentioned the institution of slavery. There was barely a mention of Negroes. It was a white vs white war. The participation of Negroes was minimal. I doubt they believed they were “fighting for freedom”. Few were interested in fighting at all.

    The history books are mostly wrong on that conflict. One has to read 100 histories to begin to put the pieces together. My opinion is that the war was a tragic waste of lives and treasure. At numerous points it could have been avoided. We had inadequate leaders at the time. Mr. Lincoln was, in many ways, a gifted individual. Although he had traveled throughout the nation it never seemed to occur to him the southerners would resist invading armies.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    , @By-tor
  108. anonymous[589] • Disclaimer says:

    A SUPER MEGA DEEP BLUE LEFT DEM FEDERAL ANTIWHITE TYRANNY over the entire USA.END of :state rights, State supreme courts.etc.. Federal mandatory tax funded abortions, federalized elections even city/county, HEALTH, Security, EDUCATION prek-University, Immigration etc. ANTIWHITE RED ,MAGA CONSERVATIVE …TRUMP MIA…GOP is dead..

  109. frontier says:
    @Gina Schrank

    re-establish American institutions that rely on morality and religion

    Well, that didn’t work out so well, did it? I don’t support immorality but in politics, morals are a veeeeeery stretchy affair. – just look at the moralizing arguments used by the Virginia Supreme Court in order to renege on a fully valid and spelled out contract.

    For another example, I can’t wrap my head around the politico-economic realities of breeding African slaves as “investment”. Say a master had 10 slaves,what was his view of slave children? Were they considered additional “stock” for later sale? Or additional labor for later use? Was the overhead of raising said children of any significance? It appears, there were obvious economic incentives to breed more slaves but did anyone consider the political risks? The Haitian revolution happened more than 60 years before the civil war… being that ignorant was inexcusable.

    I’m not saying we are doing any better today, but still, something was quite wrong with the South at the time.

  110. Sorry the rebellion will never come. It’s over democrap leftist loons have won. They control ALL major institutions including the military. Democraps & their controlled zionist neo-con opposition are both part of the same plutocracy that made billions from 2 pointless wars in Sh1tstanistan & Iraq. Now BOTH sides want to import 100k+ more muzzie possible future terrorists.

  111. Raches says:

    When the great Norwegian author Knut Hamsun visited America in the 1880s, and he saw what a society the war and the “Reconstruction” had wrought, he dismissed America as a “mulatto studfarm”.  He despised America as an uncultured, unintellectual country.  According to Hamsun, the beginnings of an intellectual elite had started to develop in the best parts of the South before the war.  The North extirpated Southern superiority, and irreparably condemned America to cultural mediocrity and racial mongrelization.

    It is unfair to expect an elite in America; it is more than unreasonable to demand an elite in a country which, when considered as a nation, is purely an experiment and whose people, starting with innate deficiencies, have been fostered in a climate of patriotic hostility to all that is unpatriotic.  If one is not born noble in mind and spirit, one must either be ennobled by foreigners or else never be ennobled.  Among Americans there is no yearning beyond the stars; no more is asked of them than that they be well-born Yankees whose goal is mediocrity, that is, political democracy.  In them there is no demanding desire for an aristocracy of the mind, an intellectual sultanate.  If there were an aristocratic court of the intellect, why then is it silent in all the realms of the spirit?  Where is the class, the coterie, the salon?  […]

    In the [eighteen-] fifties there were signs of an intellectual elite in two of the oldest Southern states, but the war came and uprooted it before it was established.  Since then it has not shown itself.  From that time on, the nation’s blood was democratically mixed with that of the Negro, and intelligence sank rather than rose.  Cohabitation with the blacks was foisted upon the people.  […]

    Instead of founding an intellectual elite, America has established a mulatto studfarm; therefore one might be justified in seeking an intellectual elite in countries where there are greater chances for its existence than in America.  It does not necessarily follow, because there is an elite in every established land with a long history and a richly varied contemporary culture, that there is also an elite in a newly discovered land with no national history and an old, effete culture.  One cannot reasonably demand more of an intellectual elite in America than what the clergy has fashioned in four generations.  What there is, is situated in Boston.  It operates quietly; it shatters no worlds and shakes no earths.

    [Knut Hamsun, The Cultural Life of Modern America (1889), translation by Barbara Gordon Morgridge, pp. 143–144.  Boldface added by Raches.]

    I would call that America’s epitaph, except that the reality has become so much worse since Hamsun visited America in the 1880s.  America today—the America that was made by the defeat of the South—is a country of hatred, spite, and envy matched only by its greed and its megalomania.  For people around the world who ask why America fights endless unjustifiable wars, bombs people into Orwellian “freedom”, and otherwise wreaks global havoc and ruin, the historical key is to understand what the U.S.A. did to the properly free and independent C.S.A.—and to understand why. ®

  112. By-tor says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Mathew obviously lacks factual historical knowledge. That is why he believes the way he does. The South and North in 1861 were two separate countries due to economic, political, geographical, religious, cultural and racial differences.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  113. MrE 3001 says:

    It’s always year zero with these assholes.

  114. padre says:

    Revolution in the USA would give the rest of the world a little time to take a breath!

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Disagree: frontier
  115. Patricus says:
    @Emperor Titus

    The Brits developed cotton plantations in Egypt because the supply from the American south was disrupted. As a consequence many Egyptians went hungry since wheat farms were replaced with cotton. The American cotton production in 1870 exceeded that of 1860. That without the benefit of slave labor. The prices of cotton never declined in that century.

    The US Census in the nineteenth century kept an accurate tally of agricultural lands. Any cultivated land greater than three acres was recorded. Although there were massive slave plantations in the south most cotton was produced on small family farms, 50 to 100 acres. It was a small cash crop on diversified family plots, maybe 10 or 15 acres of cotton.

  116. The US is doing what Ukraine has done: tearing down statues. It is said that the surest sign of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

  117. They are doing this to rip the heart out of Southern Men….

    the horrible irony is that most of the military men dying in wars for Israel are Southern Men.

    • Agree: Polistra
  118. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Eric Striker:

    Last June Jewish organizations instructed Congress to sneak an immigration amnesty into the infrastructure bill.

    Looks like they’re trying to do it.

    • Thanks: Miro23
  119. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Eric Striker:

    New on National Justice:

    Palaestra Media has created a documentary that is the most thorough look into how Sweden was transformed from a successful homogenous country to a multi racial failed state.

    Independent media and journalists are getting more sophisticated. This is very high quality and does not pull any punches (there is a segment on the Jewish role).

    • Replies: @Void
  120. @Fearless Freep

    ” . . . It’s hard for people to understand it these days, but populations in 1861 were loyal to their states first–not the national government.”

    That’s probably true. Of course, citizens in those days rarely interacted with the federal government. Most of the law they lived under was state and local.

  121. gabon 45 says:

    False – The Confederacy was a return to states rights and elimination of the Federal government as the defining authority in the US of A.

    slavery was an interim economic condition of no importance given the multiple inventions in motion at the time – to include the cotton gin which made slaves and blacks — uneconomic or expensive – for the agriculture industry – take your pick

    if the south was independent in 1865 – the GNP would be higher and life simpler north and south–>today.

    the left is a drag on commerce / freedom / advancement of civilization

  122. Anon[470] • Disclaimer says:

    I love this guy

  123. TKK says:

    Hood left out the most salient frightening part of allowing BLM’s and their white gimps to destroy history.

    BLM shouting and chanting:


    BLM answers:

    OUR STREETS!!!!!

    …as the statute was demolished.

    The Deep State and all its acolytes supports these organized vandals and ideological terrorists.

    The imbecile lackey George W Buch used a 9/11 speech to demonize “domestic terrorists at home.” None exist. They literally do not exist.

    Rotting bag of oatmeal Biden says he is “losing patience” with the “unvaccinated.”

    The time for navel gazing, sophomoric word games are over. Either we get serious about this or we have to leave the States.

    These are not mixed messages. The intent is clear. The white working class is the new enemy of the State. Proceed accordingly.

  124. Wokechoke says:

    The Taliban was crushed for twenty years and came back somehow. Careful what you wish for iconoclast.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  125. Raches says:

    Causality check:  They don’t tear down Lee statues because they hate the South.  They hate the South because of men like Lee.

    The U.S.A. aggressively attacked and invaded the C.S.A. not despite, but because of the South’s superior personal qualities in its political and cultural leadership.  Great men such as General Robert E. Lee evoke hatred and jealousy from those of inferior personal quality—evoked then, and evoke today.  General Lee’s personal honor, personal courage, and personal integrity are exemplary insults to those who lack such virtues, and who therefore hate such virtues.

    Even moreso, the fanatical war agitators of the war era hated the elite Southern ladies of the upper class.  They lusted to tear these ladies down, and throw them with their countrywomen into the mud.  If you want to see how that turned out, search your favorite porn site for “southern belle interracial”.

    Beneath superficial differences, the Antebellum South was much closer to Europe in its general outlook than the North was.  The Northern attack on the South was thus a part of the U.S. patricidal hatred of the “Old World”.  The U.S.A. was and is a treacherous bad teenager who hates his father, hates his grandfather—and hates his better brothers and sisters, the Southerners, who were growing up to be too much like daddy.

    I speak historically.  The North has constructed an image of the South as consisting of uncouth “racist rednecks”, whose stupidity and crude behavior invite the sneers of sophisticates from Boston and New York.  To some degree, this stereotype is true now: It is true because the North violently made it so, through through the horrific cultural destruction euphemized as “Reconstruction”.  The error is to extend the current cultural state of the South retrospectively:  This results in getting the causality of the war backwards.

    My perspective:  I have the experience of telling someone that I dislike blacks, and being told that I just can’t possibly have that opinion—because, “You not an ignorant racist redneck from the American South.” ®

    • Replies: @Sean
  126. Raches says:

    There is no such thing as good gov’t, and to hold the previous criminals in veneration shows a serious lack of intelligence.

    The words that I have rendered in bold show a serious lack of intelligence. ®

    • Agree: Weaver
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  127. geokat62 says:

    Excerpt from, Jeffrey Epstein got media training from Steve Bannon for a ’60 Minutes’ interview that never happened, according to report:

    * Steve Bannon once gave media training to Jeffrey Epstein, according to The New York Times.

    * Bannon told Epstein to “stick to his message, which is that he is not a pedophile.”

    * He also told the convicted rapist “not to share his racist theories on how Black people learn.”


  128. @Wokechoke

    The US invaded Afghanistan via a lie. The entire world knows it. What the US did in Afghanistan was a crime against humanity and constitutes a war crime.

    I’d appreciate to understand what logic you can possibly use to equate crushing the people of Afghanistan with some positive aspect to gov’t, especially the morally corrupt US regime and the amoral swine in its military.

  129. @nsa

    He similarly stayed in Virginia allowing the Yankees to capture New Orleans.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  130. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    Hey shitforbrains, read something, (any goddamn thing, even Wikifuckingpedia!) before you expose your self as a complete blithering idiot….lol

    Casualties and losses.

    Union – 23,049

    Confederate – 23,000–28,000

    28,000 is LOL territory cooked up by them “military historians” like Doris Kearns Goodwin and other Neocon darlings.

    Gettysburg was, in reality, a very close affair. Our boys actually broke your lines and put up a good fight at Pickett’s Charge. It’s telling that Yankees were shouting “Remember Fredericksburg!” during the advance.

  131. @Irish Savant

    With the exception of Asians, a smaller percentage of minorities have taken the clot shot than the country in general. And many law-abiding blacks are unhappy that their shopping areas were destroyed in 2020. Urban “blue” areas may disappoint you in their willingness to fight to take the freedom of others.

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  132. Weaver says:

    The racial differences are slight. Celts vs English, and mixed on both sides. Today, there aren’t many Brits of either sort here. The US, as a whole, was 70% English in 1790. That’s the original nation.

    There are clear differences between northern and southern Chinese, racial and cultural, but they’re still Han Chinese.

    Anyway, how do we move forward? To begin with, what’s the definition of “we”? The Parsis of India have remained separate, endured fully separate until now within India. Is that a desired goal, a tiny class within another’s country?

  133. @Raches

    When confronted with such an obvious genius assertion such as yours, I have to simply ask you to back up your bullshit.

    • Troll: Raches
    • Replies: @Weaver
  134. Framing this as a white vs non-white problem is precisely what the elites want. It excludes Larry Elder, Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes, Candace Owens, Gothix, RuinedLeon and many other black Americans, not to mentions Asian and Latin Americans, from the resistance to this madness. Democrats have accused Trump and his supporters of being racists, but that was never the case, and minorities and women rewarded him with increased votes in 2020. It was elite white men who defeated him.

    The issue is individual rights vs collectivism and identity politics. Evil can not be combated through evil means, nor can collectivism be defeated by yet another collective. It’s not just wrong morally and ethically, but wrong tactically as well, since it will repel erstwhile supporters.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    , @3g4me
  135. The observation that “…those whose job it is to eliminate a problem (like racism) always broaden the definition of what needs to be eliminated,” is a corollary of Pournelle’s “Iron Law of Bureaucracy.”

    In any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people, those who are devoted to the goals of the organization and those dedicated to the organization itself. The Iron Law states that in every case the second group will gain and keep control of the organization. Thus, the ACLU will act against individual rights when it becomes beneficial to the organization to do so, the SPLC will accuse non-racists of being racists. And all such organizations will broaden the scope of their action if not divert it entirely when it’s beneficial to the organization.

    • Thanks: Weaver
  136. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    It’s always entertaining to hear the Gamer Generals doing some Monday Morning Quarterbacking when it comes to Lee’s strategic greatness and leadership, when you understand how many Union commanders he sent packing back North with their tails between their legs.

    And of course there’s the inconvenient fact that he was the first choice of Winfield Scott and Lincoln to lead the Union invasion…lol

  137. Weaver says:

    Traitors? The North invaded.

    The US banned nonwhites from being citizens, at the federal level. What sort of country do you think the US was before the war? Blacks were persecuted in the North even after the war. Lincoln wanted to deport blacks. Grant and others on the North even owned slaves. Lincoln promised permanent slavery if states returned.

    Both sides were “racist.” Sherman was exterminating Plains Amerindians after burning down the South with total war.

    • Thanks: Raches
  138. Weaver says:

    Most here are, I suspect, against US foreign policy almost fully. But order is better than chaos. Are you antifa?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  139. frontier says:

    A government of good men under a poorly conceived constitution, or no constitution, is infinitely preferable to any government of corrupt swindlers and cheap political jobbers

    Rubbish. “A government of good men” cannot happen without a good Constitution. Good men don’t gatherer to act without first writing at least one good “piece of paper”… only pompous idiots can try such a folly. Getting rid of corruption is far easier with the Constitution than without it.

    Those who do not hold the individual and collective quality of human beings first and foremost are living in a fantasy,

    “Fantasy” is what’s in your head. The Constitution was written in order to answer the question “Who watches the watchers?” and it has the same answer as the question “Who qualifies the qualifiers”. Indeed who? Are we supposed to ask you about what men are good and what not? Why you? Who are you? You have shown complete disregard for fundamental political phenomena complemented by occultist faith in nonsensical, self-qualifying magic which you have failed to to support with anything other than vague and poorly defined slogans.

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Weaver
  140. Raches says:

    I said “scraps of paper”, not “‘scrapes’”.  You are a fool, and you are misquoting me to make me look foolish.

    When Russia lost it’s ‘scrapes’ the Bolsheviks came rushing in.

    No.  When Russia lost the personal quality of leadership at its highest levels, the various revolutionary factions completed their long, gradual process of undermining that leadership, a process that had been ongoing for decades.

    You are making my point for me—and you really do not know anything about the history of that revolution, if you suppose that the Bolsheviks suddenly “came rushing in”.  Are you even aware that the Bolsheviks were not the ones who seized power from the Czar?

    Despite my sympathy for the family of the last ruling Czar, and my opposition to his overthrow, I do not think that any reasonable person disputes that he was a weak leader.  Observe the revolutionaries’ need to assassinate Stolypin, a master statesman.  They killed Stolypin more than five years before the actual revolution.  If His Imperial Majesty had still had Stolypin as his Prime Minister, I think it’s likely that the February Revolution would never have happened—in which case, the Bolsheviks would have had no opportunity for their October Revolution.

    Nothing can substitute for the personal quality of human beings:  Not technological gadgets, not books of Jewish fairytales, not the democratic counting of votes, and assuredly not the worship of scraps of paper with the word “Constitution” inscribed on them.

    Whereas the Northern states fought the early stages of the war under the rubric of pretending to serve that “Constitution”, by forcing the Southern states to submit to it as if it were divine writ.  In much of the North, as of 1861, it was considered a shameful lie to say that the war was about slavery.  The war was about Union, a holy war for a sacrosanct scrap of paper called the “Constitution”:  A Federal compact which must have had divine authority, if no mere mortal could dare to withdraw from it.  During the early stages of the war, outside of Abolitionist and Radical Republican strongholds, to suggest that Union soldiers were fighting to benefit the negroes was deemed reprehensible by many Northerners.

    On a deeper level, the U.S.A. invaded the C.S.A. out of hatred for the personal superiority of the Southerner—a problem that was ultimately solved solved by Reconstructing a “mulatto studfarm”.  Worship of scraps of paper made a neat rubric for that. ®

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  141. @animalogic

    I wonder how long it’ll take for them to blow up Rushmore, & change the name of Washington State & District…

    I’ve come almost to dread reading the comments for articles like this. Most are variations on, “Whites are screwed again, but they won’t notice as long as they’re seated on the sofa and hypnotized by the TV or Netflix. No way are we gonna take back our culture, it’s game over.”

    All right, I don’t know how we’re going to win. But we should be thinking about winning, not delivering the funeral oration.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @animalogic
  142. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    I really think it’s just a big misunderstanding.

    I think all we really need to do is let the folks who like blacks and their “culture” go live with them, and leave the ones who don’t alone.

    Urgent conference call from Barack Obama in Martha’s Vinyard for Troof, Physicist Dave, Corvinus and Des.


  143. JLK says:

    Take the statue down and move onto more relevant issues, I say. Glorifying the Confederacy is a non-winner.

  144. Weaver says:

    Could you elaborate, without wasting your time, on the good aspects of his ideology? I’m fine with your being wrong on some area. You make me very curious.

    • Replies: @GMC
  145. Fearless Freep: “Slavery was the indirect cause of the war. The South seceded, in large part, to keep it. You could call it the “root” cause, but slavery was why the South left the union, not why there was a war.”

    Gregory Hood is the one who asserted slavery “may have been” the root cause of the war, not me. Certainly it was one of the causes, and in my view it was the main cause. But his further assertion that “removing it or preserving it was not the main goal of either side” is just wrong. The South fought largely to preserve it, as you say, and the North fought to abolish it. Those were their goals. That is very clear for the reasons I cited.

    Fearless Freep: “It’s hard for people to understand it these days, but populations in 1861 were loyal to their states first — not the national government.”

    True of some in the South, but not in the North, at least according to the revisionists, who would have us believe the North fought only to preserve the Union, and didn’t care one way or the other about slavery. This sort of view is common on the right, even though it’s obviously false. In support of his baseless assertion, Hood cites Lincoln, as if that liar’s assurances could always be taken at face value. But Lincoln had a well-known personal hatred of slavery, and was widely recognized throughout the South as an abolitionist. Lincoln also said:

    “My friends, I have detained you about as long as I desired to do, and I have only to say, let us discard all this quibbling about this man and the other man – this race and that race and the other race being inferior, and therefore they must be placed in an inferior position – discarding our standard that we have left us. Let us discard all these things, and united as one people throughout this land, until we shall once more stand up declaring that all men are created equal.”
    – Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Chicago, July 10, 1858

    In his last public address before being assassinated, Lincoln also called for negroes to be given citizenship and the vote.

    “The amount of constituency, so to speak, on which the new Louisiana government rests, would be more satisfactory to all, if it contained fifty, thirty, or even twenty thousand, instead of only about twelve thousand, as it does. It is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers. … The colored man too, in seeing all united for him, is inspired with vigilance, and energy, and daring, to the same end. Grant that he desires the elective franchise, will he not attain it sooner by saving the already advanced steps toward it, than by running backward over them?”

    • Replies: @Weaver
  146. @Itajara

    “Nationalism is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind.” –Einstein

    “History shows to every nation, that would seek to ensure its own preservation, a choice between nationalism, and tribalism.” –Me

    • LOL: Weaver
  147. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    Take the statue down and move onto more relevant issues, I say. Glorifying the Confederacy is a non-winner.

    I love it!

    How about the other American statues/monuments?

    Bend over and spread em’, it’s a whole lot easier.

    Don’t forget to wear your mask while you’re being fucked, cuz you won’t be getting kissed.

  148. The negro garbage heap that Richmond Virginia has become, isn’t worthy of a fine statue like that. It should be moved to a smaller majority white place where it can be restored and eventually display. All politicians who have been involved with the desecration of this statue should hang for desecration of public monuments and insulting our ancestors.

  149. Polistra says:
    @El Dato

    Craighead told police that he was “on patrol,” and “began talking about white supremacist ideology and other rhetoric pertaining to white supremacy.”

    He said something about SAT scores, or the protestant work ethic, didn’t he. Good grammar? Fair play? Public safety? Equal rights? All lives matter? Classical music?! Off to the slammer with him!

    • Replies: @Ahem
  150. @Weaver

    Because of your snide antifa comment, I’m going to show you just how dumb you are.

    Chaos is what you have now. Admittedly controlled chaos, but chaos. The laws are selectively applied so that antifa and blm (subsidiaries of the democrat party) are allowed to burn down sections of cities. Business owners and residents are prohibited by law from doing anything substantial to protect their property under major penalties enforced by the human dregs in the police departments that are paid by taxes extracted from said businesses and individuals.

    Some gov’ts are rewriting the rules on who may graduate from high school so that more and more people will have high school diplomas but can’t read, write or do simple arithmetic required to get a job, so they go on welfare.

    The Fed Gov is in the process of destroying the US currency by increasing the money supply by 50%, I believe, in the last 18 months. Your life savings, your net worth will plummet when the ponzi scheme known as fiat currency unravels in the near future.

    The Fed Gov never asks you for any input on foreign policy which is why it has murdered people around the globe for at least the last 50 years and guess what, your standard of living has paid the bill.

    The gov’t is the criminal organization it pretends to protect you against. They are the originators of the controlled chaos that you consider normal. When, not if, but when the SHTF, you will be asking yourself what happened. I will already know and will have protected myself as best I can to avoid the consequences since I no longer live in the shithole known as the USA. I will be affected but you will be devastated.

    Think this through. In olden days, warlords roamed the world and took what they wanted by brute force. Eventually they got more sophisticated and invented the concept of government where they told the people they intended to steal from that it was their duty to provide them with whatever it is they asked for via something they termed ‘law’. The law was, of course, anything they dreamt up.

    Therefore, to support the concept of gov’t is to support the latest incarnation of the warlord.

    If tomorrow, all gov’t disappeared, what do you think would happen? My estimate is that 90% of the population would continue working and being decent people. The other 10% are the criminals in the society from thieves and murderers to the political class, but I repeat myself. Once free to protect themselves, the decent people would quickly kill off the thieves and murderers, etc and peace would reign with no one taking a cut of your hard earned labor. The existing weapons system wouldn’t disappear. The output of the US, unshackled from all the nuisance laws, would flourish to challenge any foreign nation in a competitive environment.

    All that’s necessary is to get rid of the criminals at both ends of the spectrum.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • LOL: 3g4me
  151. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Looked up Northam and it seems he’s a member of a Black church, funnily enough. But like the Reddit communist I’m sure you’ll tell me that’s not TRUE CHRISTIANITY.

    It’s only a slight exaggeration to say that since 1880 Christians have completely lacked any positive argument for why people should believe in their superstition. Their arguments have been entirely negative, based on telling you that society must have some form of irrational faith so theirs is the least bad option. Imagine a fat woman, roses in hand, telling you “I’m the best you can ever get, buddy.” The Christian is right there outside Drag Queen Story Hour telling you “well, you may be able to see something wrong with that without recourse to supernatural stuff, but the people can’t. They’re stupid and need this magic book.” It’s not a recipe for a better world, but for more of worse based on some self-reinforcing b.s. pessimism.

  152. @Joe Paluka

    I had an unintentional stop in Richmond once due to a car breakdown. Yes, indeed it was a shit hole and that was in 2002. I can only imagine how much closer it is to Haiti now.

  153. Weaver says:

    There is usually truth on both sides of a debate. It is important in the US, today, to defend the Bill of Rights. However, the Constitution is not well followed, nor are some federal laws.

    Rache is more correct here than are you. Stalin’s Russia had a scrap of paper that was supposedly ignored. This is why judge selection is so important in the US.

    Just as an aside, there are two types of constitution: written and unwritten, in case you didn’t know. (For the sake of truth.)

  154. @JLK

    I vote this the most naive comment in the thread.

    The tearing down of statues is the prelude to genocide.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @JLK
  155. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:

    Changes have to happen.
    R. E. Lee needed to come down.
    Now space for Gov Northam statue.
    Thirty foot high pile of horse manure.
    For Northam, no sword but a tampon.

    Sorry General, your Virginia is gone.
    The dishonorable have taken over.

    5 dancing shlomos

  156. @3g4me

    For sure that’s the way it is now. Not at all sure that it was always like that.

  157. LarryS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Of the 34 states 15 were slave states. Only 7 states seceded because of tariffs imposed by Congress.
    After Lincoln declared war on CSA over non-payment did 4 other slave states join the CSA rather than
    fight their kin. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free the slaves in the 4 slave states in the North, only symbolically freed the slaves in the South. Slavery later became the moral cause with which to justify the war.

    • Thanks: Weaver, Thomasina
  158. Weaver says:

    The Chamber of Commerce is at war with America. It advocates for more cheap workers and exports our jobs overseas. And what do wealth gaps lead to? Revolution, instability. Similarly, the profit motive in war is partly behind the wars.

    Anyway, I want a good lord, not a bad lord. A problem with the nonaggression principle is people still use aggression. Or they cheat the system. The Amish seem capable of defending themselves from small enemies, without the state. Maybe you’re Amish.

    Anyway, I want to cut the maximum number of government jobs, replace the spending with UBI. If I knew where to move to, I’d consider moving.

    The, um, both sides in the US have some truth on their side. I’m trying to highlight things you don’t seem to see, but it doesn’t really matter. I’d prefer you not get stressed.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  159. @anti_republocrat

    Maybe. But the ‘hood rates and other welfare leeches in the cities would start the whole process all over again if they migrated to the Red (White?) regions.

  160. Weaver says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    He called for blacks in states he didn’t control to be given the right. You’re leaving out the part where he promised permanent slavery if states returned, promised West Virginia it could keep its slaves when it joined, looked into resettling blacks outside the US (too costly), and never freed a single actual slave, not one.

    The first black American citizen was created only with the 14th amendment, after Lincoln was shot. You’ve been lied to. Lincoln was a racist. They had to shoot him to free even a single slave.

  161. nickels says:

    I was following until the ‘united as whites’ part.
    What does communism have to do with ‘white’?
    This has nothing to do with being white or not white.

    This has to do with being a satanic communist vs. being an American patriot.
    Between being a lover of Western culture and Christianity vs. being a revolutionary Yid.

    Get the sides right. You will lose if you decide the KKK is the solution.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  162. Agent76 says:

    MAY 26, 2019 Reconstruction and Jim Crow Laws

    Historian Henry Louis Gates talked about Reconstruction, which lasted from the end of the Civil War until 1877, the amendments passed during this time to promote equality for African Americans, and thesubsequent Jim Crow laws and other measures used in southern states to re-establish white supremacy.

    The Blue Plague and Black Death

    “The Blue Plague is a serial killer that dates back to the slave patrols of the pre-Civil War South.”


  163. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    Get the sides right. You will lose if you decide the KKK is the solution.

    Robert E Lee/ Confederacy = KKK.

    Thanks for that very nuanced and very retarded opinion.

    Not that it hasn’t been tried before.

  164. Mevashir says:

    The Jews surrounding President Abraham today are politely referred to as “northern industrialists”. The South fought the Jew and the Jew won. The Constitution died at Appomattox. Sans federalism it was already not the Constitution.

    According to Tony Martin and Farrakhan, most Jews in the United States at the time of the Civil War resided in the South and supported slavery. In fact many of the most active slave Traders were Jews. So who were these Northern industrialist “Jews” you claim were influencing President Lincoln?

    The most prominent Orthodox Rabbi in the North wrote a passionate sermon supporting slavery on the eve of the Civil War. This is a good example of how Jews are damned from either side. We have powerful evidence that Jews supported slavery and the Confederacy and now you’re trying to claim they were the moving hand behind Lincoln:

    Another idea that occurs to me is that while white people are so upset about their loss of cultural supremacy, yet they fail to even consider the point that they imported African cultural miscreants into this country in the first place. And after the transatlantic slave trade was banned, they bred them like rabbits to the point where they constituted about a quarter of the population of the South.

    If white people are so proud of their cultural superiority and so opposed to third world immigration, why did they import Africans here in the first place? White people are responsible for creating the racial crisis in this country in the first place because they were too lazy to work their own land and labor honestly.

  165. @nickels

    This has EVERYTHING to do with being white.

    Are you mentally impaired?

    Communism is jewish internationalism, and it’s anti-white and anti-Christian.

    American patriots are white for the most part. Western culture is white European for the most part.

    The KKK was a GOOD organization.

    White unity is the only thing that will save the west, because the jews are determined to destroy all of Christendom.

    • Replies: @nickels
  166. JLK says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The percentage of blacks in this country is shrinking, per the 2020 census. I don’t see any genocide on the way. Anyway, the way the MSM and government work together is to say one thing while they do another. So take down the statue and do something meaningful like reigning in affirmative action.

    Let’s face it the statue was a divisive issue and doesn’t represent today’s Virginia, which is dominated by the DC suburbs in the north.

    The poster who made the statement of the Confederacy being convenient to British interests who wanted cheap cotton and to keep the US split at the time had a point as well.

  167. Weaver says:

    It sure makes me feel pathetic reading the claim of Jews behind Lincoln. If it’s true, it furthers white monkey theory.

    Siri: How does one be a hammer and not an anvil?

    You’re being pretty honest about things. That’s honorable. My attempts at honesty about my people keep leading me back to white monkey theory. “Bitter bad they may be, but at least they hear the things I hear and see the things I see.”

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  168. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    You must mean like your boys did in Palestine in them doggone Kibbutz where they made “the desert bloom”…lol

    With lots of help from goy governments who bought your bullshit guilt trip.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  169. @elmerfudzie

    I enjoy WW2 history, have watched tons of documentaries and read many books and first hand accounts of the war, from all sides involved. It’s an interesting look into the thoughts and emotions of the soldiers fighting on various fronts, and how similar they are, whether it’s from the American, German, British, Russian, Finnish (Russia invaded into Finland in 1944), and Australians.
    It is a pivitol time in world history, and to ignore the facts and denounce the ideologies of the sides involved is rather ignorant and short sighted. This guy has a good YouTube channel with a lot of various WW2 audiobooks if you are interested in that era.

  170. @Patricus

    Is there a site or archive where we can read those letters, I’m sure they’re quite interesting.

    • Replies: @AWM
  171. Weaver says:

    I read some of your earlier comments. How do you limit the size of corporations without a government? Some of your goals are good, but it doesn’t make sense how you aim to get there. If you have a corporation, and I have a small army; you need an army to stop me.

    You’re angry, but many, if not most, people want similar end goals. But it doesn’t make sense how you get there.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  172. nickels says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The majority of the retards driving this country nose straight into the ground are ‘white’.

    Or Yid-we probably agree on that.

    No-white is a fake category designed to lead our movement into the garbage can.

    Rally around patriotism, love of the West and love for Christianity.

    That is the winning ticket.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Weaver
  173. Weaver: “[Lincoln] called for blacks in states he didn’t control to be given the right [to vote].”

    No, he called for them to be given citizenship and the vote AFTER THE WAR WAS ALREADY OVER, on April 11, 1865, just 2 days after Lee’s surrender at Appomattox. That’s why the patriot John Wilkes Booth shot him. He was in attendance at that last speech of Lincoln’s and swore on the spot to do so.

    Weaver: “You’ve been lied to. Lincoln was a racist. They had to shoot him to free even a single slave. ”

    This is the sort of revisionist idiocy I’m trying to dispel.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  174. By-tor says:

    “Mr. Lincoln was, in many ways, a gifted individual. Although he had traveled throughout the nation it never seemed to occur to him the southerners would resist invading armies.”

    When did Lincoln travel to the South? Stephen Douglas campaigned there, but I have never read that Lincoln- even as a railroad lawyer- ever did.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  175. 3g4me says:

    @138 anti_republocrat: DR3. Muh magic conservative backs. Is there any trope you left out? Truly sad you need aliens to speak for you, and that you cannot speak up for your own people. “They want to divide us!” scream the civnats, as if deep divisions didn’t already exist due to genetics and thousands of years of the resulting culture.

    You’re not merely pathetic, you’re a fool.

  176. Mhunter says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    I’m in Fairfax County (forever over 40 yrs). In recent years have tried to make small changes at local levels…to no avail. The commie politicians are one thing…but to be surrounded by citizens that “go along to get along” have destroyed this state, this country. My anger is directed at them now. I am with you as we watch more than statues crash and burn

  177. Your championing the UBI concept told me all I needed to know about your logic capabilities and
    I wasn’t going to bother trying to educate you so as to not waste my time.

    But your latest buffoonery concerning corporations requires a reply.

    Corporations exist under a gov’t sponsorship. The gov’t ostensibly sets the rules for how corporations operate. Corporations supply the majority of the graft the political class depends on called campaign contributions. They, in large part, write the laws that purport to control them so they can claim that what they do is legal, and it is.

    Corporations use the gov’t to thwart competition. That’s how they grow to the monstrous size that some of them are. They want to pretend to pay corporate taxes so they can claim the right to lobby – the taxation and representation angle. With the appropriate accountants, lawyers, lobbyists they end up paying very little but the fact that they pay anything allows them access, along with their money, to rig the system in their favor.

    I want no corporate taxation. That would mean they have zero right to lobby. Without the right to lobby, they have no incentive to purchase the whores known as legislators and suddenly the people are front and center instead of corporate big shots. Any money funneled to the whores by corporations would fall under the bribe statutes and could be prosecuted.

    Note in my previous post I stated that weapons systems don’t vanish should the Fed Gov disappear like a bad smell. The Soviets stated that they would never attack the US because there’s a gun behind every blade of grass when their archives were released. Those guns are still there. Without the dead weight of the Fed Gov and with the still significant dead weight of the state gov’ts, the US could out compete any country on the planet because the cost of production would be the cheapest on the planet for the given level of human intellectual capability that is rapidly being wasted away.

    A few years of no Fed Gov and a roaring economy would have the peoples of the world wanting to know why they need their version of their repressive gov’t. Anarchism would stop being a dirty word once people recognized the possibilities.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  178. Weaver says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Assuming that’s true, was he going to free slaves in Union states or only in Southern ones?

    You didn’t reply to some of my points. You know slaves were owned by the North, also that Lincoln promised permanent slavery, claimed he was fighting for the Union. And you know the Union only made slavery the key issue to make it moral, to keep Europe out.

    To see the full picture, you have to understand 3 concerns about slavery ending. 1. Planters didn’t want to lose their property, of course. 2. White workers didn’t want competition, lower wages from larger workforce. But #3 is often hidden, and #3 is the big one. Crime.

    Northerners still kept blacks out of many of their states after the war. Lincoln’s Illinois wasn’t some tolerant Mecca. A very small percentage of the North was abolitionist, and Lincoln wasn’t one of them. People feared the crime.

    Why did so many slave owners fight for the North if the war was over slavery? They were promised to keep their slaves.

    Why did Lincoln look into resettling blacks outside the US?

  179. Pratt says:

    I keep forgetting, so please kindly remind me: That Einstein character you quote, was he a Presbyterian or an Episcopalian?

  180. Weaver says:

    Why would a Mason want to destroy the South? He tried to bring North and South together, after the war. He was at W&L and set a positive example. His plantation was ruined. He was against the war, to begin with.

    If he wanted to bleed the South, why did he end the war? What about the other wars? You’re hinting at things, but you need to say them, or say what you know or suspect. It’s tough to believe such a “big lie” is possible.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Schuetze
  181. @nickels

    The majority of the retards driving this country into the ground are jews.

    Video Link

    • Replies: @nickels
  182. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:
    @Reverend Goody

    Fuckin A Right, Reverend. Lee should have loaded the Army of Northern Virginia onto some C-130s and parachuted them down to form a defensive perimeter around New Orleans.

    Ineptitude, bordering on gross negligence I tell ya!

    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  183. Weaver says:

    Switzerland wasn’t conquered by Germany, likely couldn’t have been taken by Stalin. Little people can fight. I mean to say, neither even dared to attack Switzerland. It was built to defend itself.

    But the Swiss had a government, and the US isn’t Switzerland.

    UBI that I mentioned is not stupid. It’s somewhat similar to Unz’s higher minimum wage strategy. The idea is to replace the waste and corruption of the federal managerial state. People are told government serves them; so, UBI replaces it. You could also replace the income tax with a border adjusted consumption tax, with UBI partially serving as a rebate. Most such plans involve a rebate anyway; so, expand the rebate. Tie the benefits to the tax revenue, not a constant payment. So, no spending deficit.

    Unz’s higher minimum wage creates, some, unemployment; UBI doesn’t. And you get it no matter how much you earn. It gives voters a share in the country, gives them a cost to wars and immigration. And it enables private charity, capital for new small businesses.

    You might like mass immigration, but I do not. Plus, with less of a wealth gap, there’d be no Marxism here. It’s meant to oppose the managerial state.

  184. RestiveUs says:

    …now that the statue is gone, “the healing can begin.”

    What a joke!

  185. Polistra says:
    @Fearless Freep

    There was also the matter of economic and political strangulation of the South, but why quibble over details?

    “If the North triumphs, it is not alone the destruction of our property, it is the prelude to anarchy, infidelity and the ultimate loss of free and responsible government on this continent. It is the triumph of commerce, banks and the factory.” — General Stonewall Jackson

    “Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late… It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision… It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.” — Maj. General Patrick R. Cleburne, CSA, January 1864

  186. @Etruscan Film Star

    “But we should be thinking about winning, not delivering the funeral oration.”
    That’s a very fair point. If it wasn’t for the fact that most “wokesters ” appear to be white, I’d feel more encouraged.
    I just can not stand for self-hating “white” people – they make me want to sick up.

  187. @Weaver

    UBI is an absurdity. Something for nothing has been the problem for decades and UBI is just a new spin on something for nothing.

    I would shut the border AND inform the illegals they have 30 days to leave on their own with absolutely no help from gov’t. After that, they are the free labor force to rebuild the US’s infrastructure for a number of years commensurate with the length of their illegal stay. All the political refuse imported would also get thrown out.

    I’d bulldoze all the mosques and tell those knuckle draggers that their version of religious bullshit isn’t wanted as the US already has christian and jew bullshit to deal with.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  188. @gotmituns

    sports and music and when properly raised by a God fearing family… anything a white person could do in any field

  189. Weaver says:

    Must the two strategies be mutually exclusive? If I already replied to you on this, I apologise. I’m hitting the reply limit.

    And yes, the political opponents in charge are white Gentiles and Jews, with the latter seemingly more influential.

  190. @Irish Savant

    Even if it were scientifically established that a monument or a law contradicted whatever “values” they care to enumerate, that’s irrelevant to its legitimacy. We have mechanisms in place for establishing laws, and pleadings related to popular values are not among them.

    At this point, we may look forward to renaming the Supreme Court the High Court of Feelz, and decisions will be rendered in the form of clerks’ twerks.

  191. ….Thomas Paine stated in his, ” Age of Reason”, that the biblical Jesus Christ NEVER existed…!
    .. The world would have a much better place had the Roman Empire not collapsed, as we would still be worshipping the Greco-Roman religions….!?

  192. AWM says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    “Is there a site or archive where we can read those letters, I’m sure they’re quite interesting.”

    I was fortunate, while employed as a student at the University of South Carolina library system, to read many many soldier’s letters at the South Caroliniana Library, the oldest free standing university library in the US, which is located on the “Horseshoe”@ USC, since 1840.
    The above description of those letters is perfectly accurate.

    They should be digitized and available on line for sure.

  193. @Just another serf

    It is people such as yourself that disgust me to no end. You don’t have an ounce of fight in you. Giving up is your nature. So since you are such a wussy, you think that everyone else is as well. The pen (or in this case the keyboard) is mighty than the sword. Words move people, and move them to action. But in your case, the word is surrender. So while the rest of us who give a damn about liberty are fighting and keeping our freedoms alive, enjoy living under totalitarian rule since you wouldn’t do anything to stop it anyways.

  194. Richard B says:

    It’s now in their face and they are the ones responsible for their own demise.

    Unfortunately, the robbers weren’t in their face enough.

    I could think of a better ending to that video.

  195. RestiveUs says:

    Lee and his ilk were contesting an overbearing “gov’t”. What’s wrong with a statue to that?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  196. Weaver: “Assuming that’s true, was [Lincoln] going to free slaves in Union states or only in Southern ones? ”

    You don’t have to assume anything. It’s all a matter of historical record. You can look up the quotes I gave you online.

    He wanted them free in ALL states, and worked hard for passage of the 13th Amendment. It passed both the Senate and the House by January, 1865. With the war over, on April 11, 1865, he called for them to be made citizens and given the vote. It was a foregone conclusion that the Amendment was going to be ratified and slavery declared illegal throughout the US.

    Weaver: “A very small percentage of the North was abolitionist, and Lincoln wasn’t one of them.”

    It was Lincoln who prosecuted the war to free them and is the man most responsible for turning them loose, and you claim he wasn’t an abolitionist! It’s hilarious that you revisionists worship the guy and tell such incredible lies about him, and even funnier that they are often believed. It’s a tribute to the profound depth of human stupidity.

    Weaver: “Why did Lincoln look into resettling blacks outside the US? ”

    He made no serious effort to do so, and was just playing politics, pretending to be interested in something he knew would never happen. A serious effort to expel the negroes would necessarily have involved forcibly rounding them all up and deporting them, and Lincoln heatedly opposed that. He insisted that any departure of negroes from these shores be strictly voluntary, knowing well that only a tiny percentage would ever volunteer to leave. It should be obvious that making them citizens, as Lincoln declared he favored, would forever prevent their forcible expulsion. Lincoln, more than any other single individual, is the author of the USA’s current negro problems.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  197. Sean says:

    That is a libertarian view of what happened, whereby war to destroy the Confederacy was not inevitable. Those who subscribed to it and associated views (such as opposition to political parties, of which the Confederacy had none) were ill prepared for what did happen. My impression from recent reading is the libertarians in the South self-consciously harked back to the writers of the Constitution in the previous century, who did not realise political parties would arise. The libertarians actually caused the Confederacy to be formed but they were than excluded from

    There was in effect a libertarian party in the South, with Stevens and Toombs (who but for his drinking being on display at a critical juncture would have been President rather that Jefferson Davis). However, none of the libertarians had any influence on events after the Confederacy was created, all they did was complain about the suspension of habeas corpus and the introduction of conscription. The Confederacy in practice was nationalist and statist, as epitomized by Davis.

    • Replies: @Raches
  198. GMC says:

    I’m sure Lenin’s philosophy is way above your ego.

    • LOL: Raches
    • Replies: @GMC
  199. GMC says:

    Sorry Weaver – you caught me before breakfast was over – and Lenin Statues are a personal joke . Everytime I head to the Saki market I pass by a 30′ statue of Lenin and in the beginning I always asked some friends – What’s with the Lenin Statue -didn’t you study your history during the Bolshevik shit ? And so the answers are always the same – It’s our History and we are OK with it and Lenin. So, I should have never replied to trinity to begin with – Spacibo.

    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Raches
  200. Wokechoke says:

    I cannot imagine which Abrahamic religion you were spawn from. Einstein liked nationalism for Jews.

  201. @RestiveUs

    All statues are a form of State worship.

    Instead of a statue of Christ or some bogus saint the religious scam puts up for their dolts to gaze at and admire, the State has their own gods and lesser dignitaries for the stupid to idolize.

    What’s wrong with it is the waste of tax money to put up an idol of state oppression and terror and call it something to be revered.

    Throne and alter were twins–two vultures from the same egg.
    To attack the king was treason; to dispute the priest, blasphemy.
    The sword and cross were allies.
    Together they attacked the rights of men; they defended each other.
    The king owned the bodies of men, the priests the souls.
    One lived on taxes collected by force, the other on alms collected by fear.
    Both robbers, both beggars.
    The king made laws, the priest made creeds.
    With bowed backs the people carried the burdens of one, with open-mouthed wonder received the dogmas of the other.
    The king said rags and hovels for you, robes and palaces for me.
    The priest said God made you ignorant and immoral; He made me holy and wise; you are the sheep, I am the shepherd; your fleeces belong to me.
    You must not reason, you must not contradict, you must believe.
    Robert G. Ingersoll

    • Replies: @Raches
  202. Ahem says:

    The accounts in the press led me to consider the possibility the the the ‘white supremacist’ was following some kind of carefully stage managed behavior that resembled an actor following a very poorly written movie script rather than someone acting out their true beliefs.

    The thought crossed my mind that this might be yet another fund raising bit of ‘Live Action Role Playing’ cooked up by the FBI to try to encourage Congress to increase their annual budget.

    As it stands, the story stinks. More info is needed.

    • Replies: @Half Back
  203. Raches says:

    That is a libertarian view of what happened, whereby war to destroy the Confederacy was not inevitable. […]

    The Confederacy in practice was nationalist and statist, as epitomized by Davis.

    Those are all anachronisms, and labels misapplied to the substance.

    Nothing that I said was “libertarian”.  I am sympathetic to nationalism, including the Confederacy’s quasi-nationalism de facto.  The word “statist” is a nonce-word tossed about by libertarians and Ayn Rand disciples; it has a meaning only in propaganda, not in political theory.  I am indubitably a “statist”; I may as well also be called a “wettist”.  I believe in drinking water; however, I recommend that you should avoid drowning in it.

    To show the absurdity of “libertarian” arguments about “statism”, I must ask:  Is the following statement “libertarian”?  Is this statement’s author a “statist”?  Why does the world have to be so nuanced, so confusing to nice little labels?

    “There can be no such thing as state authority as an end in itself, for, if there were, every tyranny in this world would be unassailable and sacred.” — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, discussing the circumstances that justify resistance to the state, and even a resort to illegal means to overthrow it; see also his analogy of wrongful states to bands of pirates.

    War to destroy the Confederacy was indeed “not inevitable”, in the sense that bouts of insanity are “not inevitable”.  The North had zero justification to invade the South.  Nothing in the Constitution (or, to the best of my knowledge, in the negotiations leading to it) stipulated that the Federal compact thereby entered was a death trap—a roach motel which one could enter, but never leave—a marriage contracted by consent, from which there could never be a divorce under any circumstances whatsoever.  The “several states” were exactly that, several (and severable) states—until they were reduced to mere administrative provinces, by and of the empire that was created in 1865—a kakistocratic empire which afflicts the whole world with violent misery to this day.  Furthermore, consider the principle of the matter.

    Whereas the 1776 declaration of independence was at best arguable, the Southern states’ succession was indisputable:  For subjects to “declare independence” from a king is silly and childish,¹ but a sovereign always has the right to denounce treaties that were ratified by assent.  The Unionists replaced the divine right of kings with the divine right of a scrap of paper, and imbued in that paper such an absolute eternal authority as no monarchist would ascribe to a king. ®

    1. The notion that royal subjects can peremptorily “declare independence” by invoking so-called “natural rights” is, of course, an absurdity beneath discussion.  What is more interesting, at least in theory, is the legal analysis by which the American Monarchist Party has proved that Parliament’s recognition of the Americans’ allegedly sovereign independence was invalid, according to British law.  Therefore, the United States does not exist!  If @Ron Unz ever wants an example of theoretically correct, practically irrelevant waste-of-time arguments, this one is exemplary.  Cf. tax resister arguments about the invalidity of the Sixteenth Amendment, or the “voluntary” nature of the income tax; some of these arguments are probably quite correct in theory, but they tend to fail catastrophically in practice.

    • Replies: @Sean
  204. Raches says:

    Ah, a very Russian sense of humor.  “Troll” changed to “LOL”, because I can’t un-react. ®

    • LOL: GMC
  205. Raches says:

    What a pity.  I know some intelligent anarchists.  You are the caricature of an Internet Anarchist, practically a self-parody. ®

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  206. @Raches

    Your ad hominem is noted.

    I supply reasons for my opinions. One may agree or disagree. That’s what this site offers.

    I see you just fling dirt. Can you back up your assertions with any logic or haven’t you got the intellectual capital to do so?

  207. Cowboy says:

    Well, I can see you’re as stupid as your dearly departed kinfolk. The Southern States bent over like a Southern queen is known to do and signed up for the compact known as the Constitution. If the Southern States had had any balls they would have joined the Anti-Federalists in the north to oppose it. Apparently that Southern superiority led to a good fisting. I can only deduce that the Southern man enjoys being a Sub to a good Dom tyrant. Being the good Anti-Federalist I am I say “good for you, enjoy your beatings”.

    p.s. You should drop out of whatever high school you attend and sign up for the Ron Paul classes.

    • LOL: Mevashir
  208. Sean says:

    The Confederates thought they were closer to the original meaning of the US Constitution, and they believed they had a right to secede, but a right is something one can enforce or call in others to enforce. It would have been a very remarkable thing if the US let the South break away, because the Confederacy would have formed alliances with other powers, and threatened the long term security of the Northern state.

    In the real world, the Confederacy was never going to be permitted to survive by the North, Toombs failed to understand that and so did Stevens ECT. Even Jefferson Davis was deluded on the point, because he only thought there would be war if Lincoln was elected. Though not a military man,Toombs did understand that the North could crush the South in any war, and he was opposed to the attack on Fort Sumter for that reason. However, there literally was no way for the Confederacy to win, even if Lincoln had been a Confederate secret agent. ‘Carthago delenda est’.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  209. Mevashir says:

    When did Lincoln travel to the South? Stephen Douglas campaigned there, but I have never read that Lincoln- even as a railroad lawyer- ever did.

    As a young man, Lincoln worked on a steamship and travelled south. Apparently he was very upset by the chattel slavery he witnessed:

    On the other hand, Lincoln was hostile to Indians. He volunteered for the militia that fought the Blackhawks. His aggressive railroad policies (promoted in the midst of the Civil War) were responsible for the disenfranchisement of Indian rights across the west. The railroads decimated the buffalo populations and violated treaties whenever they wanted passage through Indian territory. Instead of paying the Indians a fair price for transit or mining rights, the whites simply invalidated the treaties and stole the land. They set a “great example” of white Christian honesty integrity benevolence and trustworthiness. LOL

  210. Mevashir says:

    You’re being pretty honest about things. That’s honorable.

    When I signed up for Jesus, I didn’t realize quite the price I would have to pay. My baptism went hand in hand with 9/11 Truth and many other “conspiracy theories”. Jesus represents Truth and I try to adhere to that.

    Because of my outspoken criticism of Zionism and Judaism, I am not welcome in the Jewish community. That includes the Messianic groups, who tend to idolize the State of Israel (just like the Christian Zionists). I also no longer attend church because they are equally resistant to 9/11 Truth and many other issues that are important to me.

    Jesus gives us the courage to be truth-seekers and -speakers, as I am sure Israel Shamir would affirm. The price is loneliness and ostracism, but along with that is great personal freedom.

  211. Mevashir says:

    I lived on two different kibbutzim many years ago for a period of about one year. In those days they used only Jewish labor and would never hire Arabs for anything. They were very proud of that.

    The kibbutz movement was a great concept that was destroyed by the Likud people like Begin and later Netanyahu, who implemented harsh right wing Milton Friedman policies in order to more fully integrate Israel into the globalist banking system.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  212. Schuetze says:

    “Why would a Mason want to destroy the South? He tried to bring North and South together, after the war. ”

    Obviously you know little about Freemasonry and the hidden hand. It is such an incredibly broad subject that I really don’t know where to begin. You really should look into Albert Pike.

    Here is a small taste:


    “The American civil war offered the Bonesmen and their associates in banking, the first opportunity, in America, to fund controlled conflict. The resulting “synthesis” would include the erosion of democracy at the local level (“states rights”), the elimination of state-chartered “Free Banking” and the establishment of centralized “national” banking and thus the establishment of a few private “national” banks that could be owned and controlled by a handful of families.

    From the outset of the American civil war, these private national banks (as well as the “Free” banks), loaned money to both the Union and the Confederacy (20).

    Many of these bankers also funded and equipped “bushwakers,” “death squads,” and private militias whose specialties included the torture and assassination of Union or Confederate sympathizers. Neighbors were sometimes “slain before the eyes of their wives and children,” some were killed for “fun” (21).

    Not uncommonly these “death squads” would pick “off neighbors one by one,” ambushing and assassinating suspected enemies, and spreading terror. Every man, armed or unarmed, was fair game. Men were shot down in their fields, on their doorsteps, while on the road. Men taken captive were scalped, beheaded, castrated, and mutilated. Crops, homes and entire towns were burned (21).

    The owners of these banks, these merchants of death, essentially funded the war and the many competing death squads in order to reap the incredible, staggering profits. Indeed, by the end of the war, over \$6.6 billion dollars in direct costs (that is, in 1860s dollars) had been consumed by the civil war and the government of the Union and Confederacy (20).

    War and terror were good business. The merchants of death made incredible fortunes.”

  213. Failure to understand that Republicans are an enemy of liberty is to have missed the whole lesson of America’s slide into tyranny

    The Republican’s NDAA (H.R. 1540 (112th) signed New Year’s Eve 2011 (although Bush’s Patriot Act laid the foundation) was America’s death knell. With the stroke of a pen, ‘We the People’ became mere subjects. Our Bill of Rights gutted. Habeas corpus and due process erased. US citizens are subject to execution by government on accusation alone without due process. That event was our generation’s Declaration of Independence time. What did Patriots do? Jack. Not one shot was fired. That was 10 years ago. Today we are living under tyrants feasting on the fruit of the Republican’s NDAA.

    Talk of rebellion is easy. Wake me up when you are willing to “mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor?” Ah, and there’s the rub….

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  214. Mevashir says:

    It would have been a very remarkable thing if the US let the South break away, because the Confederacy would have formed alliances with other powers, and threatened the long term security of the Northern state.

    Very astute comment! Precisely! Imagine a long border running coast to coast with slaves constantly trying to escape north and southern slavecatchers infiltrating to retrieve them. It was completely untenable. Lincoln was a nationalist and imperialist, and allowing the South to go its own way, with all its immense resources and superb harbors, was inconceivable.

    Perhaps we should all be more honest and accept the claim of Southerners that Lincoln waged a war of imperial invasion aggression and conquest. Today’s US military is full of southerners who seem very happy to participate in US imperial conquests all around the globe (eg Korea, Vietnam, Central and Latin America, the bogus War on [of] Terror, etc). Let’s all admit that they themselves were targeted for US imperial conquest so long ago! Maybe we can then set aside this foolish exercise in pointless nostalgia and focus on the pressing problems of the present. Amen.

  215. nickels says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Yes, yid is shameless.

    But they would have no power if the gentile had not turned away from God and his strength in the Christian faith.
    The West’s death is well deserved, though a reversal through revival would be nice.

    • Agree: Mevashir
  216. Mevashir says:

    The Republican’s NDAA (H.R. 1540 (112th) signed New Year’s Eve 2011 (although Bush’s Patriot Act laid the foundation) was America’s death knell. With the stroke of a pen, ‘We the People’ became mere subjects. Our Bill of Rights gutted. Habeas corpus and due process erased. US citizens are subject to execution by government on accusation alone without due process. That event was our generation’s Declaration of Independence time. What did Patriots do? Jack. Not one shot was fired. That was 10 years ago. Today we are living under tyrants feasting on the fruit of the Republican’s NDAA.

    What is NDAA? You are right about the “patriots” though. The NRA guys are armed to the teeth with 400 million firearms and billions of rounds of ammunition, all supposedly to defend our freedoms, but they sit back and do nada. The only freedom they seem to care about is their freedom to own a gun and to fire it at practice ranges.

  217. Mevashir says:

    The kibbutz movement was a great concept that was destroyed by the Likud people like Begin and later Netanyahu, who implemented harsh right wing Milton Friedman policies in order to more fully integrate Israel into the globalist banking system.

    This is why Israel today is full of Fortune-500 companies side by side with enormous poverty and economic inequality with zero safety net (very similar to the USA). Israel has been turned into a raging financialized economy, which is why they prey on people around the world with bitcoin type financial scams (that make the Nigerians look like eunuchs):

    Netanyahu particularly is clued in to all the various financial shenanigans, corporate corruption and spycraft that represent predatory capitalism at its very worst. People forget that BB has a PhD from MIT in computer science and is a ruthless genius:

  218. Weaver says:

    UBI is not an absurdity. There is a political balance of power. Unless you plan to make yourself dictator, you need power, a military, to do what you just said.

    The US federal government currently wastes tremendous sums of money, yes? All UBI does is take that money and pays it directly, so individuals can waste or invest it. Voters, hopefully, would demand more UBI and so cut other government services to afford the UBI.

    Alaska has something similar from oil revenue, dunno how it’s faring. But residents seemed to fight for it.

    The US currently seems to be moving to free housing, free education, free healthcare. I don’t like that trend. It sounds like slavery.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  219. MarkU says:

    My money would be on the cappaccino.

  220. @Weaver

    The US Dollar is headed for toilet paper status. UBI will hasten its demise, so I applaud its adoption from that perspective. As sound policy, it’s a joke.

    You should understand the difference between currency and money. Mike Maloney has an excellent series on the topic.

    Suffice to say that what the US uses to conduct business, what the entire world uses to conduct business is debt based currency, not money. The entire world is currently racing to the bottom to see who can debauch their currency the fastest. UBI would aid in that endeavor. At some point, a black swan event wil trigger a world wide currency crisis requiring a reset to commodity based money. Wait for it.

    Currency is created out of nothing and eventually the scheme implodes. It is used to trick the weak minded public into supporting the scheme with a limited amount of ‘free stuff’ such as UBI while the true owners of the country accumulate the bulk of what’s worth owning. The plandemic is allowing for the final consolidation of ownership of the valuable assets into the hands of a select few while bankrupting the 99% that have few actual non paper assets.

    The very idea that UBI will be afforded by shrinking some existing entity of gov’t is truly laughable. The fact that you propose such a farce tells me you want to believe it’s true because without UBI you’re in deep shit.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Weaver
    , @Adam Smith
  221. Mevashir says:

    I wonder how long it’ll take for them to blow up Rushmore

    I’ve been to Mt Rushmore. It’s terribly overrated and a big disappointment. Ugly as well. All of the presidents depicted on it were hostile to Indian interests.

    More than that, it is a direct insult to the Indians for whom the Black Hills are sacred territory and part of a treaty that even the SCOTUS ruled is still valid and was unjustly violated by the federal government. Mt Rushmore is like putting a statue of Adolf Hitler next to the Western Wall in Jerusalem. It’s an abomination and it should be demolished.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Kapyong
  222. Schuetze says:

    This video explains what is and was going on, you really should watch it.

  223. @Weaver

    Though I clicked “Agree”, I need to refine my position: one does not need a traditional government to do the tasks you mention. Private militias will do.

    I do not necessarily favor them in principle. I am not an anarchist, exactly. I don’t want to destroy governments, or corporations. I’m vaguely libertarian-oriented, and think one should be able to bypass governments and corporations when they become a nuisance.

    In practice, though, when the goings get tough, I’m a conformist.

  224. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > “It’s hilarious that you revisionists worship the guy [Lincoln] and tell such incredible lies about him, and even funnier that they are often believed. It’s a tribute to the profound depth of human stupidity.”

    Not stupidity, but the power culture has over a man’s mind. Lincoln is worshipped by Americans, and it is only natural to turn a recognised figure into one of your own. Otherwise, the person must be faced with the possibility of loneliness, of abandoning most of the previous culture and building anew – a prospect that horrifies most. It certainly horrifies losers, those unable to wage culture war on their own terms.

    • Replies: @Corrupt
  225. Realist says:

    Currency is created out of nothing and eventually the scheme implodes. It is used to trick the weak minded public into supporting the scheme with a limited amount of ‘free stuff’ such as UBI while the true owners of the country accumulate the bulk of what’s worth owning. The plandemic is allowing for the final consolidation of ownership of the valuable assets into the hands of a select few while bankrupting the 99% that have few actual non paper assets.

    This is something everyone should take to heart. I believe there should be strict limits on power and wealth. It is just amazing to me how careless people are about their freedom and future.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  226. @Realist

    I’d bet that not one person out of one thousand understands how currency is created and how that process influences price inflation. Fewer still know the history of how the Federal Reserve was created and who the people were behind it.

    Everyone should read : The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve by G. Edward Griffin. If more people understood how absolutely crooked the Fed Gov is, maybe more of them would wake up to the scam that it is.

    I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world – no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
    Woodrow Wilson

    That SOB was also a liar because he knew exactly what he was doing.

    • Thanks: Realist
    • Replies: @Realist
  227. @nsa

    Many military historians are fools. Lee was fighting defensively but the Union could bring a factor of men and material that the South could not keep up with. There was no Springfield armory… the Union was beginning to bring repeating rifles into battle… And on the same day as Pickett’s ill fated charge, Grant took Vicksburg to essentially choke off the South from men and material in the Western part of the Confederacy. Yes Gettsyburg, especially the charge was a blunder. He could have disengaged and essentially had a draw… but Lee managed to hold off a larger, better equipped foe for three years… It was doomed from the start, but the South’s generalship in Virginia managed to hold off the Union far longer than a lesser general could have.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  228. Perversely, it is only the forces that hate whites that make whites exist as a category at all! I don’t care to identify as white, but nor do I care to be IDENTIFIED as white, and perhaps slated for extinction, by any other group.

  229. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Let us die to make men free” has the context where the negro was not considered a man. There was no widespread sentiment against slavery of negros on either side of the Mason Dixon.

    Shove your revisionism up your front hole.

  230. Adûnâi: “Not stupidity, but the power culture has over a man’s mind. Lincoln is worshipped by Americans, and it is only natural to turn a recognised figure into one of your own. ”

    While it’s true that falling into the trap of making a hero out of the author of your misfortune is just human nature, to stay in the trap after it’s been exposed as a trap shows a special kind of stupidity. The right-wing cult of Lincoln-as-hero is one of the things that prevents white people from seeing the real causes of their decline.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Disagree: Corrupt
    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  231. Realist says:

    That SOB was also a liar because he knew exactly what he was doing.

    Yes, Wilson was one of the most devious, duplicitous assholes this country has suffered as President.

    His involvement in WWI was extraordinarily treasonous.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  232. Weaver says:

    I said to adjust UBI according to what’s raised in the trade tariff/VAT, paying out exactly what’s raised, not more. Did you understand this or any part?

    No. You’re an anarchist… Your reply is basically, “lol, someone says something other than anarchy, fail!”

    You’re essentially antifa. I’m not.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  233. @Weaver

    You have the intellectual capacity of a cabbage.

    UBI is unearned income. As such, it is money from nothing as there was no labor to generate it. The base line of UBI to the population will quickly be absorbed into the inflation statistics. It’s the same stupid argument for \$15/hr or any form of minimum wage. Whatever it is set to becomes the new base line for all prices to rise making the inflation go higher and in a short time eliminate any short term benefit it may have provided before all the prices rose to negate the effort. If \$15 is a good idea, why not make it \$100?

    This has nothing to do with anarchism you pinhead. It’s simple economics.

  234. @Mevashir

    Though I’m sympathetic to Native interests, I still fell destruction of Rushmore would be an act of US sepiku.
    Better for the US to give tangible support to this special & tiny minority.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  235. Checheno says:

    Einstein was a jewish communist friend of pedophile jews like Wilhelm Reich, I suppose he is a good reference for idiots like you.

  236. Mevashir says:

    Though I’m sympathetic to Native interests, I still feel destruction of Rushmore would be an act of US sepiku. Better for the US to give tangible support to this special & tiny minority.

    Probably you are correct. But Rushmore really is a poke in the eye to the Indian nations:
    United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that: 1) the enactment by Congress of a law allowing the Sioux Nation to pursue a claim against the United States that had been previously adjudicated did not violate the doctrine of separation of powers; and 2) the taking of property that was set aside for the use of the tribe required just compensation, including interest. The Sioux have not accepted the compensation awarded to them by this case, valued at over \$1 billion as of 2011.

  237. Cowboy says:

    I got to thinking that Rushmore encapsulated the first century of America, roughly speaking, from Washington to Roosevelt.

    Then I asked who should be enshrined for the 2nd century?

    Sadly, only one man seems worthy.

  238. @Weaver

    In Switzerland, every person is considered a soldier. It’s their duty to defend the nation. Here in the U.S. among the majority, there is no sense of duty. Period. Had there ever been any, we would not be seeing all the crap we are now seeing and being subjected to. Americans are have been brainwashed into believing they have this duty to defend the world, where as, most won’t even defend their own nation. Can I take the knee now?

  239. Dr. Doom says:

    The Zion Pigs got their asses handed to them in Syria and Afghanistan.
    The Russians and Taliban know what they’re doing and don’t have any freaks.

    The freakshow that is the Zion Pig “empire” is falling down.
    It will come to shots being fired.

    The Jew is a stupid creature that NEVER LEARNS.
    It will try to fight White Americans while trying to take their guns.

    We are LEGION. There are 180 Million Whites in America alone.
    The Worldwide Census said there was a pathetic 15 Million Jews in the Whole World.

    This could be a short and decisive war. An end to Zionism and Jewish Supremacy.
    The Complete Destruction of the Zion Pigs and their delusions of grandeur.

  240. @RoatanBill

    Good afternoon Bill,

    I hope this comment finds you well.

    People mistakingly equating debt based currency with money is one of my pet peeves.
    It is so blindingly obvious that the two are not the same. Thank you.

    Also, if I were to mash the agree button on all of your comments that I agree with, I would soon run out of agrees.


    • Agree: Adam Smith

    I hope you have a great day.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  241. @Adam Smith

    Thank you.

    I would ask you to please chime in with your own comments to add weight and your perspective on any given topic.

    There are so many people so propagandized that they can’t see the truth when it’s presented to them. The more people they see trying to wake them up the better.

    I realize it’s a thankless task and no good deed goes unpunished, but on this site, the worst anyone can do is initiate name calling that immediately indicates they have no logical reasoned response. Trying to deprogram people benefits us all and is why I’m here and admittedly confrontational. You need to hit the mule over the head with a 2×4 to get his attention.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
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  242. Kapyong says:

    “More than that, it is a direct insult to the Indians”

    Presumably that was the whole point ?

  243. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    Too bad we can do some Time Traveling and plop your goofy Jew ass down in Sioux territory prior to the arrival of Bad Ol’ Whitey. Along with the throngs of feminist gals who have been “oppressed by the white Patriarchy”….lol

    Since that’s not possible, the next best thing is to have you dwell among those poor downtrodden niggers.

    Tim Wise lives in a 90% white suburb of Nashville. Michael Moore does the same up in Michigan.

    How about you, boss?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  244. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Gettysburg was a calculated gamble that failed, not a “blunder”.

    There is an excellent essay about Gettysburg entitled “The Mistake of all Mistakes” by Phil Andrade that you should read if you can find it online.

    It was on but it seems that it’s been scrubbed, just as most anything that vindicates or is sympathetic to the great man, Robert E Lee.

    Lee’s military greatness is somewhat overshadowed by the fact that he was an example of the “magnanimous man”. He was a noble man in the truest sense of the word. Which is why he is so vehemently hated by the powers that be.

    Their souls are black and ugly like the Portrait of Dorian Gray.

  245. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    It’s also interesting to note that Armchair Butcher Lincoln chastised Meade for not pursuing and “crushing” Lee’s retreating army at Gettysburg.

    Meade didn’t because his army was badly bloodied and in no shape to do so.

  246. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > “…to stay in the trap after it’s been exposed as a trap shows a special kind of stupidity.”

    Building a culture from scratch is hard. Having it succeed in more than one man’s mind is harder. Effectively, counter-culture doesn’t exist (or is rare). Even Hitler built on the earlier myth-makings such as Nietzsche’s anti-Christianity, Wagner’s nationalism, Haeckel’s racism and Ratzel’s geopolitics – so much so that he couldn’t make independent choices himself. Soviet Bolshevism built on Christian social justice and the likes of the narodniki movement. Naturally, Amerimutts are drawn to mutt figures. In this regard, the folks from beyond the sea are similar to Eurasians – and one would think this to be exactly the place where American universalism would not be bound by narrow-minded, petty nationalism!

  247. Mevashir says:

    I live in Colorado in a rent-controlled building full of people with physical and mental health disabilities. Sorry to disappoint you but I’m nowhere near the affluence of the Jews you have cited.

    Even though Colorado is a beautiful state, in the 10 years I have been here I have never been West of Estes Park. I have never seen Aspen or Vail or any of the hot springs or other fabulous sites in Colorado. I do not own a vehicle and use buses. The buses here are full of homeless alcoholic drug addict and mentally ill people (HADAMI, a Hebrew word I made up that means something like bloody scum of the Earth). I have been assaulted on the bus and I had to pepper spray someone which brought about a one week police investigation to see if I was acting in self-defense or not.

    So sorry to disappoint you boss. All the low life people in my part of the country are white trash drug addict alcoholic folks covered with satanic tattoos and ugly piercings from head to toe.

    I once heard heard some of the homeless people talking on the bus discussing how they have the entire country mapped out. Like birds they go south in the winter to places like San Diego and north in the summer up to Idaho. They know the homeless features and facilities in every major city in the country. It’s all worked out like a precision operation. And the bleeding heart libtards who run my city create policies they draw these degenerate and dangerous people here. That’s because the libtards live inside their vehicles and never have to walk the city streets or take public transportation and therefore never interact with this horrific population.

    I wish the Chinese would come along and take all these folks off our hands and put them into the re-education camps they’re running out in Xinjiang.

    And we can thank President Reagan for this scourge engulfing our country because long ago he shut down Mental hospitals across the country and dumped their populations on the streets. I guess he was trying to prove that government is the problem and certainly never helps. LOL

    • LOL: JLK
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  248. Corrupt says:

    “Lincoln is worshipped by Americans”

    Not all Americans. There are many who despise the man for his unconstitutional actions and his hypocrisy.

  249. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    You obviously are a mental patient.

    Fuck off back to The Promised Land with your Evil Cunt Bolshevik Jew Filth ancestors.

    And die there.

    • Disagree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  250. @RoatanBill

    There are many people who are so overly propagandized/indoctrinated that they will not believe their own lyin’ eyes even when the official narratives they are presented with are utterly absurd. Sometimes it is so difficult to break the hypnosis that even a 4×4 is not enough. Sometimes confrontation is the only way to get someone’s attention. While it may indeed be a thankless task, trying to deprogram people is a benefit to us all. Thank you, Bill, for your efforts. I will do my part and try to reach as many as possible.

    Thanks again,
    I hope you have a great evening.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
  251. Mevashir says:

    Fuck off back to The Promised Land with your Evil Cunt Bolshevik Jew Filth ancestors.

    I was born in America and have as much right to be here as you do. I do not practice Judaism either and am not a Zionist.

    Even though I write Whit(less) Supremacists, I do have pity for ya’all. Your ignorance means you get manipulated by insincere demagogues who steal your votes and then stab you in the back. But in truth this didn’t begin with Don Juan Trump. It goes all the way back to the founding of America.

    In my view, America is not a republic or a democracy but rather a PLANTATION. The only people respected are plantation owners. Everyone else is just a nigger slave, workers without rights dignity or value. Labor Day is the most BS holiday in America, because this country has always been ferociously anti-labor.

    This is why the name of the game in America is lotteries and gambling, because everyone wants a quick path to riches, because they understand that if you are an honest hardworking person you don’t count for crap.

    Racism is a ploy used by the elites to divide the workers against each other so they don’t unite to overthrow the ruling class. The rich in America have far more in common with the rich in China Russia Israel India and so on than they do with their “fellow” countrymen. Racism Religion and War are used to keep the destitute hordes of citizen-fools focused always on a smokescreen distraction so the elites can happily pilfer the economy.

    I’d like to start an organization called WANT = Whites Are Niggers Too, symbolizing the fact that America worships money and power and sees workers as just tools to manipulate for the self-enrichment of the ruling class.

    Unfortunately the Whit(less) Supremacist folks are too stupid to see this. The very same thing happened in the ante-bellum South, where the poor and middle class whites suffered great economic damage from the elite plantation system. They couldn’t compete with the vast economies of scale of the plantations. So what did the White Establishment do to control their anger and distract their rage? They invented racism. And all of a sudden those economically disadvantaged whites were supporting the chattel slave system in the name of religious and racial superiority, but all to their own personal economic detriment.

    Noble Prize winning economist Paul Krugman constantly writes about how racist and religious demagogues persuade middle class whites to vote against their own economic interests in order to enthrone the pro-billionaire Repugnican Party. It’s all a giant scam that succeeds because these white voters are truly Whit(less) supporters of an imaginary Supremacy:

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  252. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    And yet you lived in a kibbutz etc…

    Do you really think all REAL Americans are fooled by your bullshit and/or bought by your money?

    The vast majority of Jews are Marxist filth dedicated to the destruction of Western Christian Civilization.

    The United States of America is in fact a creation of Western Christian Civilization.

    We know freaks like you hate us. We hate you back.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  253. Mevashir says:

    And yet you lived in a kibbutz etc…

    That is correct. I lived in Israel for 20 years after I graduated from college. America has been a fabulous home for Jewish people and most of them are extremely grateful.

    You are completely wrong about American Christian civilization. America was founded by violent revolutionaries who were against the Christian stranglehold of European nations. Most of the American founders were Deists Freemasons or Atheists. They certainly were not fundamentalist Christians by a long shot, even though the fundamentalist pastors hypocritically beat the drums for war against England in direct violation of New Testament teachings.

    Jews are very versatile and adaptive, and like cream they always rise to the top, while gullible manipulated fools like you are more and more disenfranchised by the elites. You will be left in the dust while Jews will persist in their prosperity and power.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  254. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    America was founded by violent revolutionaries who were against the Christian stranglehold of European nations. Most of the American founders were Deists Freemasons or Atheists. They certainly were not fundamentalist Christians by a long shot, even though the fundamentalist pastors hypocritically beat the drums for war against England in direct violation of New Testament teachings.

    Which is why the likes of Thomas Jefferson approved that the Protestant Bible be taught in schools.

    Or that why Christian prayer in public schools was not an issue until the 60’s.

    You are a jackass Jew.

    • Disagree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  255. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”… John Adams

    So which “religion” do you think ol’ Johnny was talkin’ about?

  256. Mevashir says:

    Listen my angry friend. I am happy there should be prayer in schools. I am a Jewish believer in Jesus the Jewish Messiah. Prayer is an essential part of our identity.

    I oppose attacking Christmas on secular grounds also. I think the best model is in Germany where public school children have to receive mandatory instruction in the religion that they follow. So Catholics receive instruction in Catholicism, Lutherans in Lutheranism, Jews in Judaism, and Muslims in Islam. That is how an enlightened society should operate.

    You should consider that the collapse of Christianity in America is not the fault of Jews or Muslims or atheists but simply due to the corruption of the church which has alienated so many millions of people. That’s why Christians so frantically are trying to prohibit abortion in the courts because they have failed in instructing people that abortion is wrong so they’re asking the government to do the heavy lifting for them.

    If you want to make America into a fundamentalist Christian society that persecutes people of other faiths, then you can expect fierce opposition from people like me and all the more so from non-Christian citizens of this country. If you want to be a selfish pig and try to commandeer the resources of this society for your own narrow interests, get ready for war. And you will lose!

    As far as Thomas Jefferson goes, he is a classic example of a Deist. He created his own Bible where he kept the moral teachings of Jesus but removed all of the miraculous accounts as superstition. So Jefferson is precisely the wrong person to cite in your pathetic effort to portray the American founders as Christian fundamentalists.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  257. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    I don’t like conversing with bullshitters/liars.

    That’s why Christians so frantically are trying to prohibit abortion in the courts because they have failed in instructing people that abortion is wrong so they’re asking the government to do the heavy lifting for them.

    Hey ASSHOLE JEWBOY, research Operation Rescue.

    I’m actually very happy that there’s NOTHING left to talk about with your kind anymore.

    Go smoke some more weed, Dr Freud.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  258. geokat62 says:

    If you want to be a selfish pig and try to commandeer the resources of this society for your own narrow interests…

    Hmmmm. I wonder which tiny ethnic group this charge apply to in spades?

  259. Mevashir says:

    Check out these links to a fascinating book that describes the role of Catholics in instigating the American Revolution. It will help you understand why seven of our Supreme Court justices are Catholic and two are Jews with not a single Protestant in sight.

    America was founded with Enlightenment values, it does not have a strong religious identity and the gates are open for any group to succeed through hard work talent and ambition. Catholics and Jews certainly are among the elites of our society, far more than the Protestants I would say. And that’s why they control SCOTUS.

    America is a product of the Enlightenment in which European Christians sought a less fundamentalist and more rational approach to religion and reason. I don’t deny that the American Founders were raised as Christians, but they certainly were not fundamentalists.

    I believe there are many reasons that Christianity is superior to Judaism, but you will not persuade Jews of that by addressing them disrespectfully and threateningly. An even greater problem is that so many American Christians have abandoned their faith. I don’t think you will persuade them of the virtues of Christianity by persecuting Jews Muslims and unbelievers. That kind of coercive behavior is exactly what the American Founders wished to avoid in the first place!

    The Founders were quite different from the Puritan fundamentalists who colonized Massachusetts. George Washington Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were very far from that mentality.

    You are right to be passionate about the health of our society. I hope you can approach things in a more balanced and reasonable manner, starting with educating yourself about the truth of our historical origins.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  260. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:

    I hope you can approach things in a more balanced and reasonable manner, starting with educating yourself about the truth of our historical origins.

    You’ve already shown that you know absolutely nothing about the founding of this nation, other than the typical Leftist lies we’ve heard over and over again. Concocted mainly by YOUR co-ethnics and their useful idiot allies.

    Your kind should make Aliyah before it’s too late. Lee was an honorable man, who tried his best to fight the same way.

    That won’t happen again. The only thing the (((Left ))) understands is brutality. A terror war where ALL of your kind are nice soft targets.

    Think of a meeting place for young “revolutionaries” blown to bits, and you have to identify the charred remains of your brats by DNA testing.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  261. Half Back says:
    Regarding the Gov Whitmer plot …………Also the 6/1 protest.

    By way of conclusion, let us return to a curious feature of the Michigan Plot described earlier in this report.

    During one of the plot’s climactic scenes, in the main van driving up to look at Whitmer’s vacation house, three out of the five people in the van — 60 percent of the plot’s senior leaders — were undercover agents and operatives:

    31. FOX, CROFT, a CHS-2, a UCE, and an individual from Wisconsin traveled in the first vehicle. While in the vehicle, CROFT and FOX discussed detonating explosive devices [DOJ Indictment]

    The FBI and DOJ went to great lengths to conceal the fact that the fifth man in the van, “an individual from Wisconsin,” was actually a deep undercover federal informant.

  262. Mevashir says:

    Think of a meeting place for young “revolutionaries” blown to bits, and you have to identify the charred remains of your brats by DNA testing.

    You are very sick my friend and you need help. I hope you find it. May God show Mercy to you and to all of us Amen.

  263. Mevashir says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    According to this article from a secular humanist organization founded by Richard Dawkins, one reason the southern colonies decided to join the revolution against Great Britain was because of their fear that UK would outlaw slavery in all of its colonies!

    This article also confirms that The Griffins is correct that Christianity was the de-facto religious identity of the early American states, even though the founders themselves were far from fundamentalist in their beliefs. Christianity became the cultural identity of the American nation and was strongly enforced by state laws, including mandatory taxation to pay the salaries of Christian ministers.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  264. Timothy87 says:

    Lee believed that achieving a decisive victory on the battlefield WAS the only way to win the war. Sitting back, surrendering the initiative to the enemy, and being ground-down at their leisure does not seem like a good alternative. What guarantee did he have that the North would ever quit, so long as the Army of the Potomac still existed? That choice would have also been a gamble. Lee simply gambled that with a better lead army with higher morale he stood a good chance of being able to destroy the Army of the Potomac.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  265. Mevashir says:

    Lee believed that achieving a decisive victory on the battlefield WAS the only way to win the war.

    Why didn’t Lee simply capture Washington DC outright rather than detour to Pennsylvania? And why did he wait so long to mount an invasion of the North?

    • Replies: @Timothy87
    , @Wielgus
  266. Mevashir says:

    Most of their articles contend the very opposite: that America never was a “Christian” Nation:

  267. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    It is clear enough that the government is now illegitimate. It is not quite so clear that democratic government has failed, but it has. This is not to laud authoritarianism but to note only that democracy cannot do the job of securing freedom. Given the concept of the tyranny of the majority it should be clear why that is the case. Democracy has no inherent identification with freedom. Under some circumstances, such as a majority contending with a powerful minority, it may appear that there is a meaningful association. Unfortunately not.

    Freedom is maintained by power. Power defined as the capacity to do serious harm to those who oppose you. Note that power is thoroughly amoral by definition. Freedom is not about right but about will. As such moralists will never be happy with it and will be strongly opposed when freedom opposes their morality.

    It has been said that if nukes had existed during the Civil War Washington and Richmond would have used them on one another. But consider that mutually assured destruction (MAD) would have been as valid a concept in the 1860’s as after 1945. The peace of the states in North America may well have been maintained if in 1860 both sides had been well armed with nuclear bombs. The Confederacy might still be with us.

    The need for weapons of supernal destructive power which can be easily created and deployed is still with us. The current might of the Federal Government would be extremely dangerous to use if just anyone could remove Washington from the face of the Earth. In seeking a position independent from the Federal Government it might be worth considering if such superior weapons can be found. One need not wait for some Manhattan Project to begin such a search. It can be done right now.

    Biden and his co-conspirators no doubt are counting, in the pinch, on unstoppable power. That need not be the case. Ask the physicists who no longer support the Standard Model. There are ideas afoot which could change the game.

    • Replies: @Marcaurelius
    , @Mevashir
  268. We don’t need constant reminders of the Confederacy in public view.

    We don’t need to venerate Robert E. Lee.

  269. @Anonymous

    Why is the perpetuation of Negro Slavery necessary to you?

  270. Timothy87 says:

    You couldn’t simply walk into DC, while the Union army was still a factor.

    With most armies, logistical issues, especially in the Confederacy explains a lot

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  271. @Weaver

    Yes, you have the right idea about paying US Citizens a basic income each month and getting rid of most federal government “programs” and “agencies” … along with their massive pension liabilities and their big government-employee unions and voting bloc.

    We need legislation that cuts \$300 billion in annual war/occupation/foreign-base spending and \$300 billion of domestic spending … and sends half the savings as UBI to all non-incarcerated US Citizens.

    Every year, reduce both military and non-military fed gov spending and send half the savings to non-incarcerated US Citizens.

    Government bureaucrats and military contractors alike will find that Americans don’t give a damn about perpetuating their gravy train — most Americans, of all backgrounds, will gladly eliminate federal agencies and US military bases abroad if they know they will immediately receive half the savings in their own pockets.

    You know what else would be a bigger tangible help to most Americans than 90% of the federal government’s agencies and “programs”? Refinancing all their debts at zero percent interest. Mortgage loans (on one residence only), vehicle loans, student loans, small-business loans, medical/dental debt, credit cards, and on. A federal public bank that offers zero-interest loans to all US Citizens would undercut the powerful banks that make such a rapacious killing off of us.

  272. Mevashir says:

    It has been said that if nukes had existed during the Civil War Washington and Richmond would have used them on one another. But consider that mutually assured destruction (MAD) would have been as valid a concept in the 1860’s as after 1945. The peace of the states in North America may well have been maintained if in 1860 both sides had been well armed with nuclear bombs. The Confederacy might still be with us.

    I have often wondered if we all would be safer if the US gave or sold nukes to every country on earth. That might be the surest way to eliminate all warfare. And enrich the US even more. I know it sounds crazy, but it might actually be a reasonable approach.

  273. Mevashir says:

    But I’ve read that Washington contained many slavery supporters. I think the Confederates could have sacked it from the outset. The North never would have anticipated it. But I think that violated Lee’s personal code of military chivalry.

  274. @GeneralRipper

    They could have marched. This Robert E. Lee, as Secretary of War,also got swindled by Afghans for the purchase of useless camels used in Arizona.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  275. GeneralRipper [AKA "The Griffins"] says:
    @Reverend Goody

    Your information on the “Camel Corps” is about as factual as your other ridiculous assertions regarding Lee’s Generalship during the Civil War.

    Lee had very little do with it, and he certainly didn’t “get swindled” you freakin’ moron.

    If you want to talk about some real swindlin’ you should examine your own Yankee brethren’s machinations…lol

    In 1863, a Congressional Committee on Government Contracts was highly critical of the arms merchants, writing: “Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretending loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation, while patriot blood is crimsoning the plains of the South and bodies of their countrymen are moldering in the dust.”

  276. @Mathew

    what planet did you go to school on?

  277. Wielgus says:

    Washington was well guarded by a string of forts, and a significant number of Union troops were garrisoned there. Not easy to attack.
    Richmond also needed to have a large number of Confederate troops guarding it throughout the war.

  278. @Mevashir

    Got you. Naive I am. But pay the court mandated Compo’ you pack (Executive/Leg’) of miserable piss-ants.

  279. @Gina Schrank

    > The “revolution ” that is now occurring from the ostensible leadership of the country has a decidedly Jewish cast to it. Notably, the Jews are and always have been (with the exception of a few fringe movements) focused on the secular and material life. They have no interest in the after-life or the soul or any other more eternal or ennobling pursuits.

    These are the words of a moron who hates people about whom he knows nothing. The US is lucky to have a relatively large population of Jews who fill the ranks of the doctors and scientists often interviewed on TV. As everyone possesses free-will, it is up to every individual to decide on what to do with his life. And so it is also for folks who practice the jewish faith and those of jewish ancestry who are non-observant.

    • Troll: P. Cleburne
  280. @Emperor Titus

    You are kidding.

    The City of London played both ends against the middle in the American Civil War. There is always much money to be made financing wars and the armaments, uniforms, and arbitrage in the disruptions to economic flow.

  281. @Mevashir


    The Eskimos are ALWAYS in ALL lanes of politics and statecraft, and group loyalty means they are just pretending to be on different sides of an argument, behind the scenes they are working in tandem, with only occasional rifts here and there.

  282. @Mevashir

    Also it wasn’t “whites” who imported slaves, the Atlantic slave trade was the work of the Eskimos and various cryptos in Lisbon, Gomes et al., see the work of Professor Tony Martin.

  283. @nsa

    Everybody is an “expert” the day after….

  284. Schuetze says:

    This image is not only a communist parody of Rushmore, but really encapsulates the hidden hand of Communism running through the American soul:

    “Communist Party USA meeting in Chicago, 1939

    Always had a ton of commies who just can’t get enough Lincoln worship. The despot who got 700K Americans killed, good friend of Karl Marx & a lot of other strange stuff. Silicone Joe is now being told to be… ‘Lincoln-like’, LMAO.”

  285. Void says:

    Live in this shit. Can attest. Yesterday some innocent women were injured by a handgrenade. It’s like frags and automatic rifles are let through custom while lawful people owning legal flintlockweapons are clamped down upon. Anarchotyranny and problem, reaction, solution.

  286. Weaver says:

    It’s supposedly a “pagan” idea to honour participants from each side in a war. It’s “Abrahamic,”maybe first Zoroastrian, to view conflicts as good vs evil.

    With modern propaganda, we tend to view events as good vs evil. I even want to preserve Amerindian heritage. It’s well that some of the past be preserved.

  287. 36 ulster says:

    Well, your second point is spot on, which is why I’ll stick with the Stars and Stripes as my ensign of defiance, as my neighbors have done when some North Side Chicago refugees decide to put up the Fruity Saltire or a BLM banner when they move to our Bungalow Belt neighborhood. My ancestors were unionists, but I doubt if they would sympathize with this Maoist desire to destroy.

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