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Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life. Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them. Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as a sin against laws and customs. – Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Without myth, we aren’t a people. We’re just consumers. Our rulers appear to want it that way.

Friedrich Nietzsche called the state the “coldest of the cold monsters.” He rejected the idea that the state created a people. He championed the Germany of artists and scholars, the German nation defined by culture that predated Bismarck’s Second Reich.

He may have been wrong. (Julius Evola would have disagreed, arguing that it was orders of strong men that created states and then peoples.) However, even Evola would have agreed that those who create a people, whether warrior-kings or poets, ultimately rely on myth. The myth is not a “noble lie,” but a poetic expression of a historic truth, and a way to tell people who they are. The memory of a lost “golden age” or a primordial beginning is necessary to any nationalist movement, from the revanchists of Aztlán to the Anglo-Saxon founders of the United States. Even Abraham Lincoln appealed to the “mystic chords of memory” when he reunited North and South. All people need a story to know who they are and where they come from.

Online, you will find many people quoting Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: “To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots.” Others quote George Orwell: “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” These men may not have used these exact phrases, but the sentiment is correct. Orwell did write in 1984 that the tyranny of the Party made sure “every record has been destroyed or falsified” to create an “endless present in which the Party is always right.” It’s hard not to see some of this in today’s iconoclasm. A people without roots is not a people at all. It is a mass of individuals that can be scattered.

Our opponents recognize this. That is why they make every effort to portray women, non-whites, homosexuals, and other protected groups in ways to ensure they can “see themselves” positively. Critics loved Black Panther because its “Afrofuturist” vison spoke to blacks’ myths about themselves. Similarly, the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s movie about “Shang-Chi” wasn’t just the latest in this never-ending franchise, but an “empowering” message to Asians.

T’Challa, after the death of his father, the King of Wakanda, returns home to the isolated, technologically advanced African nation to take his rightful place as king. (Credit Image: © Marvel Studios/Entertainment Pictures/ZUMAPRESS.com)
T’Challa, after the death of his father, the King of Wakanda, returns home to the isolated, technologically advanced African nation to take his rightful place as king. (Credit Image: © Marvel Studios/Entertainment Pictures/ZUMAPRESS.com)

None of this applies to whites. Consider a minor example, Thor of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Reducing him and the Aesir to comic book heroes is itself a desecration (though less than what progressive preachers have done to Jesus Christ). But even here, Asgard is not a “Eurofuturist” model, but a stale, multicultural nothing — an Apple store in the sky. Whites have nothing to aspire to.

Far more damage is being done to our real history.

Casting non-whites as characters known historically to be white is just “color-blind casting.” A recent series cast Anne Boleyn as a black woman, as if the showrunners were daring us not to laugh.

But who would introduce “color-blind” casting for Porgy and Bess? Blacks were even offended when Gal Gadot played Cleopatra. Many insist Cleopatra was black. She was of an inbred Macedonian dynasty, but it’s a public controversy when filmmakers don’t pander to blacks’ delusions about Egypt. You can find endless complaints about “whitewashing” in film: white actors playing characters some think should be non-white (even if they weren’t).

Critics complain that this is an attempt to write people out of their own history. Isn’t it obvious that this is being done to us? Some medieval and classical scholars even seem to want this. Critics were angry that a video game set in medieval Bohemia didn’t have enough blacks. Why should anyone care? I wouldn’t mind an all-black cast in a movie about the rise of Shaka Zulu or Mansa Musa.

If the argument is that Western myths, stories, and heroes are so universal they belong to the world, this is an implicit admission of white cultural superiority. The Arthurian tradition, Greek dramas, Roman history, Shakespeare’s plays, Western royalty — many non-whites find these stories more interesting than their own pasts. Compare Haitian “emperor” Jean-Jacques Dessalines to Emperor Napoleon.

Still, not having something of our own rips something out of our racial soul. Whites are increasingly rootless, without identity. Without myth, we are a biomass headed for overdose, disgrace, and oblivion while our opponents taunt us about our demographic replacement. It’s surprising more whites don’t kill themselves. Mere echoes of tradition are not enough to sustain a people.

Without a traditional culture, we get pop culture. Many whites disappear into it, especially into fantasy. Look at the thousands of webpages and YouTube videos about the “lore” of fictional universes, from Star Wars to Game of Thrones to countless video games. “Fandoms,” like sports teams, are an artificial identity, a product that replaces the organic identity of a real community. This “lore” is often a simplified version of real European history and myth. This is why we are often drawn to it.

Game of Thrones, for example, is based on The War of the Roses. How many people can describe the battle tactics and intricate strategies of Robert’s Rebellion, but don’t know the first thing about The War of the Roses or any other part of English history? What is fantasy compared to walking the grounds where your ancestors fought for what they believed in?

In some ways, America is a young nation. However, we had our own mythic conflict, the War Between the States. This was our Iliad, with legendary commanders and honorable soldiers fighting for glorious causes on both sides. Walking the battlefields of Antietam or Gettysburg, one feels wonder that such men really existed not so long ago, and anger at interlopers who pretend to be Americans. The destruction of Confederate monuments strips white Southerners of a proud identity. Cultural genocide is something Republicans recognize when it is done to Chinese Muslims but not to their own voters.

Allegorical Engraving from “The Great Civil War: A History Of The Late Rebellion” by Robert Tomes & Benjamin G. Smith (1865) (Credit Image: © Ken Welsh/Design Pics via ZUMA Wire)
Allegorical Engraving from “The Great Civil War: A History Of The Late Rebellion” by Robert Tomes & Benjamin G. Smith (1865) (Credit Image: © Ken Welsh/Design Pics via ZUMA Wire)

Sometimes, history isn’t enough, and fantasy can rise to the level of mythology. The greatest example in modern times is the work of J.R.R. Tolkien. When Professor Tolkien wrote his books, he said his vast, detailed, and infinitely rich world was something he could “dedicate simply to England, to my country.” He may have never said explicitly that he wanted to give England back its mythology, but that is what he did. The history of the Anglo-Saxons, their legends, their religion, and their entire culture can be found in Middle Earth.

While the historic epics that define national cultures are often from antiquity (The Iliad for the Greeks, The Aeneid for the Romans), this brave professor who fought for the Empire in World War I and studied Anglo-Saxon gave the English people a national epic for the 20th century. He also established the genre of “high fantasy” — the world of elves, orcs, men, wizards, and dragons that have inspired countless artists and imitators. In terms of literary influence, he’s the equal of H. P. Lovecraft’s “cosmic horror” and Robert E. Howard’s adventures. Both American authors had strong racial views, far stronger than Tolkien’s.

J. R. R. Tolkien (probably in the 1940s)
J. R. R. Tolkien (probably in the 1940s)

Tolkien didn’t just speak to the mind, but to the soul. His work was rooted in the mystic chords of memory that define a nation. He wrote for his people. His work came from his people. Today, does that people still exist? The “International Society of Anglo-Saxonists” changed its very name because non-whites didn’t like such a clear expression of ethnicity. The modern university isn’t capable of producing another Tolkien. He famously opposed National Socialist Germany, but the United Kingdom that “won” the Second World War at the cost of its empire and national prosperity is a perversion of everything he believed in. If the United Kingdom had lost the war, perhaps the English would speak German, but Tolkien’s work would have some respect in academia.

The Lord of the Rings is no longer acceptable as originally written. When the film trilogy was first made, the SPLC promoted an article that said it was too “Eurocentric” and mocked the “whiter than white” heroes and “courageous Anglo-Saxon souls.” Why should this bother anyone? A new Amazon production will be multicultural, with affirmative-action hobbits and other characters to make non-whites feel better about themselves. A recent Tolkien conference discussed “transgender realities in The Lord of the Rings” and the lack of dwarf women. The question of whether Sam and Frodo were gay is also eagerly discussed.

Samwise Gamgee and Frodo Baggins. Credit: NEW LINE PRODUCTIONS / Album
Samwise Gamgee and Frodo Baggins. Credit: NEW LINE PRODUCTIONS / Album

Some might say that Lord of the Rings or Tolkien’s work is irredeemable, no matter how much “diversity” if forced on it. Its vision of high fantasy has the theme (critics would say “trope”) of different races with different personalities: ethereal elves and their high culture, corruptible but brave men, greedy but skilled dwarves, and of course, evil and violent orcs. Today, this portrayal of “orcs” is considered racist. They supposedly show black physical and cultural traits.

Thus, Lord of the Rings is Eurocentric and racist, but there’s money to made from European myth, so Amazon will put in some non-whites so they can “see themselves” in a popular series as something other than orcs. I never saw blacks as orcs. When white leftists see snarling savages and immediately think “black people,” it suggests there’s something to the idea that they subconsciously think blacks are inferior. Perhaps liberals imagine themselves like Saruman the White guiding his orc monstrosities.

The Horrid Orc Grishnakh in ‘The Lord of the Rings; The Two Towers.’ (Credit Image: © Courtesy of New Line Cinema/Entertainment Pictures/ZUMAPRESS.com)
The Horrid Orc Grishnakh in ‘The Lord of the Rings; The Two Towers.’ (Credit Image: © Courtesy of New Line Cinema/Entertainment Pictures/ZUMAPRESS.com)

What I notice is that orcs speak like British working-class whites (complete with “oi!” as an interjection). If anyone should be offended, it’s working-class whites. But who cares about their feelings?

As in Middle Earth, races having or lacking certain qualities was an important part of other fantasy books and games. The video game Skyrim let a player change his appearance and race, but each race had different advantages and abilities. The underlying story was about the “Nords,” a fair-skinned people in an arctic land who lived in a multicultural, multiracial, multispecies empire. The player could choose to support secession or fight to keep the empire together.

This idea of racial characteristics is now a problem. For example, Dungeons & Dragons has purged racial characteristics from various creatures, such as the “bloodlust” from orcs. Since orcs don’t actually exist, there’s no reason why they can’t have bloodlust, but we mustn’t insult people eager to be offended on their behalf. “Dungeons & Dragons’ Racial Reckoning Is Long Overdue,” said Wired, complaining about its “regressive” ideas about hierarchy and distinct races. Dungeons & Dragons is also trying to be more “inclusive.” Do people who play this game think minority participation gives them moral permission to play a Eurocentric fantasy game? Clearly, the game writers think so.

Even Warhammer and Warhammer40K, the flagship products of tabletop games pioneer Games Workshop, have succumbed to “wokeness.” The original Warhammer was a fantasy version of Europe, with a sacral “Empire” based on the Holy Roman Empire, a hierarchical “Britannia” based on the chivalric traditions of the Normans, and other human cultures such as “Kislev” (Russia), “Grand Cathay” (China), and the marauding tribes of the artic wastes (the Vikings). There was plenty of satire, but it was a romantic version of what Europeans experienced. The company destroyed the setting (though it lives on as a video game) to create a more abstract “high-fantasy” world in which cultureless humans fight behind masks in the vague interests of “order.” Commercially, it might be more successful, but it lacks soul, because it is so disconnected from anything human.

People playing a game of Warhammer inside the Games Workshop facility in Nottingham. Credit: Jesusbella, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons
People playing a game of Warhammer inside the Games Workshop facility in Nottingham. Credit: Jesusbella, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Meanwhile, the more commercially successful “Warhammer40K,” a “grimdark” futuristic dystopia, has schizophrenic marketing. It was originally meant as satire on Thatcherite Britain. One particularly savage Ork is named Ghazghull Mag Urk Thraka. In this universe, a crusade to unite mankind behind secular rationalism and science fails horribly, sparking a terrible civil war. For thousands of years, mankind is trapped in technological stagnation and religious superstition, huddling in a crumbling “Imperium of Man” nominally ruled by The Emperor. He is a psychically powerful revenant who can’t directly speak to those who act in his name but can protect some of them with his godlike powers. The Imperium He “rules” — a galaxy-spanning feudal theocracy mired in endless war and bureaucracy — is the opposite of what He intended.

The Imperium of Man became the default faction for many players. It was meant to be an attack on organized religion and authority, but despite the creators’ intent, they showed why religion, sacral order, tradition, and hierarchy are necessary and good, particularly when you are fighting evil gods and aliens. For this reason, it’s enjoyed a great deal of popularity among rightists who understand the clumsy satire but see through it. Progressive satirists can’t help but undermine their own argument because the logical conclusion of their worldview is entropy and extinction. When you are playing a wargame, no one wants to be the side that is trying to lose.

Marine veteran Anthony Swofford wrote in Jarhead that it is impossible to make an antiwar movie, because even those films intended to discourage war end up promoting it. Full Metal Jacket was a direct insult to the Marine Corps, but the Corps itself embraced it, promoting R. Lee Ermey after his military service. Likewise, Warhammer 40K, by presenting a world outside liberalism, established a right-wing following. Naturally, this made the company unhappy because it is trying to achieve Marvel levels of success with a “mainstream” audience.

Thus, two years ago, Game Workshop issued a statement declaring “Warhammer is for Everyone” that had the effect of ensuring “everyone” would no longer play. It denounced “prejudice [and] hatred,” and promised to diversify the setting. At a recent wargaming tournament in Spain, a single player out of 800 wore Nazi symbols on this clothing. This prompted a statement, “The Imperium Is Driven by Hate. Warhammer Is Not.” It went on rather grandly: “The Imperium of Man stands for a cautionary tale of what could happen should the very worst of Humanity’s lust for power and extreme, unyielding xenophobia set in.” I doubt a hammer and sickle would set off such a reaction.

The foolish statement hurt the company. The Imperium of Man is the “default.” Without getting into the “lore” of the game, the Imperium is not even close to the “worst” faction; it’s fighting alien torturers, undead mechanical horrors, depraved traitors, savage beasts that just want to fight and kill (and talk like English soccer hooligans), insectoid aliens that trying to consume all life, and evil gods. The Emperor, for all His faults, wants to save humanity and is the ultimate example of someone operating at his highest potential, something aspirational. If the Imperium were anything else, humanity would be extinct. White people who say they don’t want their race to go extinct are “haters.” Are humans who don’t want their species to go extinct also haters? PETA is already warning people about “speciesism.” The company has made this galaxy-spanning hate group the heroes. And what is the message when Commissars who shoot their own men to prevent retreat can also be sassy, strong females who won’t let men boss them around?

Another video game where you get to be a Space Marine butchering murderous xenos by the score is on the way. The military forces may be “xenophobes” who hate aliens, but they are also racially diverse. If you are non-white, you can “see yourself” as part of the star-faring hate empire. The Imperium includes blacks on the Viking planet and among the space Romans. There are also racially diverse, child-friendly stories and cartoons about heroic Space Marines saving the day against the aliens. You can even start a club at your school. If we accept the Warhammer Community’s claim that its own default faction is a hate group, it’s indoctrinating kids into it.

Whites live in a society that smears them right now, especially in the United Kingdom. Leftists either don’t notice, don’t care, or approve. The British can’t make “satire” about the grooming gangs in British cities that abused white girls. Be careful if you mention the 1,500 acid attacks since 2011 or the rampant street crime that London’s Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan presides over. Anyone can mock the monarch, but don’t joke about protected groups on Twitter or Facebook. Don’t post a flyer saying “it’s okay to be white.” That will be called a “hate incident.” It’s much safer to take jabs at the Catholic church, the military, or traditional patriotism, critiques that have been stale since Voltaire. China is probably the only nation that can compete with the UK’s mass surveillance. The difference is China doesn’t promote self-hatred.

On a deeper level, in fantasy and in the more fundamental myths that it draws from, whites have been robbed of their past. This is being done systematically. In its place there are new myths, and not just Black Lives Matter. Everything that happened in the West before World War II was racist, oppressive, and evil. Even the soldiers who fought Nazi Germany were racist and sexist.

Almost every movie, television series, and, increasingly, news report follows the same boring line about the never-ending threat from a cartoonish “far-right.” Even the outrageous atrocities such as the Waukesha Massacre in December don’t register in mass culture.

R.R. Reno was correct in Return of the Strong Gods when he argued that the intellectual response to World War II was to deconstruct Western culture itself. It was better to destroy the tainted Western tradition rather than risk the “far-right” gaining power. Herbert Marcuse’s deeply influential work was ultimately based on this crude assumption.

What should be our response? Mr. Reno had nothing to offer except a vague Christian spirituality. Considering the current leadership of the Roman Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist Convention, and mainline Protestant churches, that would do more harm than good. Mr. Reno thinks white identity is “perverse.” It’s not. We’re right, he’s wrong, and until more people realize that, they are in no position to complain that things getting worse.

However, before we can make things better, we need to know what “better” looks like. That takes imagination. Throughout history, most peoples have had a mythic story that explains their creation. It may be a lost homeland, a tree of life, or a central pillar that sustains the cosmos, or a divine ancestor. Some elements of this, however dim, survive in fantasy. In the postwar West, we labor under a new founding myth, a death cult that preaches extinction.

It says we are tainted irrevocably. We are defined by World War II, which wasn’t really a war against foreign adversaries, but our own inner racism. Though the war against “hate” is unwinnable (until, presumably, whites are gone), we must continue to fight. Every inequality between the races is our fault. “Racial inequality is evidence of racist policy and the different racial groups are equals,” in the words of Ibram Kendi, describing the thinking behind his proposed “anti-racist” constitutional amendment.

Such a creed doesn’t make for good fantasy. Few want to read a story about self-loathing. There’s no point in learning about a people so pathetic they surrender to outsiders for no reason. If we were to imagine the current Western world as a fictional universe, its “lore” is boring and uninspiring. It has few heroes, ugly aesthetics, hardly any artistic accomplishments. Its value is as an example of what to avoid. Modern America is not a city on a hill, but a mess to be swept under the rug.

Fantasy, even dark fantasy, gives us an alternative. Even thinking another world is possible is dangerous to our rulers. It’s not surprising that fictional universes, including Tolkien’s Middle Earth, Warhammer’s Old World, 40K’s Imperium, and even the “create your own adventure” quests of Dungeons & Dragons are being hammered into the same conformist mold. The same process defiles all media, games, and films. It’s all just variations on the same story about white guilt, an endless fugue that smothers almost our entire culture. It’s also not enough to fantasize about a different world. It’s time to create it. It’s time to have a land of our own, because once we have that, we can build what others can only dream about.

(Republished from American Renaissance by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Mr Hood you are a helluva good egg, sir.
    I always enjoy your writing.
    And you made mention of R Lee. Any column that mentions R Lee is bound to be a good read.
    I propose you make at least one reference to R Lee in all your columns from now on. Or just keep at what you’re already doing.
    Happy Birthday to Jesus happy bday to Jesus…classic just classic. I remember well singing happy bday to Jesus myself. Jest classic.

  2. Richard B says:

    He championed the Germany of artists and scholars

    Scholars? Did you ever read Untimely Meditations?

    The Artist, Philosopher and Saint (creator, thinker and valuator), yes. Because they represented the goal and crowning achievement of culture – the genius.

    But the scholar he either made fun of or warned us against. Not just because they were uninspiring, but because they were indifferent or even hostile to genius.

    Who living today could possibly deny that he was right?

    • Agree: Franz
  3. Nietzsche “championed the Germany of artists and scholars.”

    But don’t you get it. The chumps on here hate artists and scholars, because they’re not STEM.

    It’s that simple.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
  4. Remember all those Westerns where they had Italians play Indians.

    They ought to let Indians play Thor. I think they would do a good job.

    • Troll: Richard B
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  5. Exile says:

    Decent piece overall, but WWII was not a war against “foreign aggressors” and King Solomon was not White. Hannibal’s a stretch as well – the Dido myth notwithstanding, Carthage was a Phoenecian/Semitic city.

  6. I think Kubrick intended to make an antiwar film, but fell in love with the Marine Corps in the process. The boot camp part of the film is the most fascinating. One ended up hating poor Private Pile.

    About the orcs, that photo just reminded why I like Peter Jackson, he has/had the gift of creating awfully charismatic human and especially non-human characters. See some of his early low-budget films, like Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, Dead Alive and Heavenly Creatures to see where he started out. I would watch the tedious Lord of the Rings movies again just to see some of the creatures come to life. The white working class accents were always present in his movies, I get the feeling of fondness for it. His WW I documentary They Shall Not Grow Old also gives context.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  7. Rich says:

    Serious Christians have had an alternate culture for many years, since the mainstream went full degenerate. Blacks developed their own culture, as did Jews, within the US, when it was proudly White Christian leaning strongly towards Wasp cultural norms. We have the numbers and the creative thinkers and the money to build an alternate White society, apart from the mulatto culture the left is trying to force down our throats. It’s very possible, and those of us who care about the future of our children have to do everything we can to develop this alternate culture. They can only fight reality for so long, the Soviet Union could only do it for 70 years before it collapsed. Our reality is the real one, we will win.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    , @Anon
    , @lydia
  8. Hoods writings are always interesting and instructive.

  9. I’m dead serious about this:
    Someone should do research on WHY so many Whites have turned to anime – Academia can’t be trusted to do this in good-faith, so perhaps it should be done by AmRen, Counter-Currents, The Occidental Observer etc.
    I have some hypotheses:
    I)
    Anime for boys (“shōnen”) promotes values such as bravery and heroism, unlike American/British Entertainment Industries;
    Anime for girls (“shōjo”) promotes values such as femininity, unlike American/British Entertainment Industries.
    II)
    Characters from anime frequently look like they’re European (blue eyes, blond hair and pale skin are common) – Black and Brown characters are very rare, whilst, inter-racial relationships are non-existent.

    • Agree: Catdog
    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  10. Ian Smith says:
    @obwandiyag

    Still doing the “Tiny Duck, but not funny” routine, I see.

  11. Ian Smith says:
    @Rich

    Yes, movies like Fireproof and “Jesus is my boyfriend” music will be the salvation of our race.

    • Replies: @Rich
  12. Mr. Hood writes about LOR -I never saw blacks as orcs.

    I never did either. I read the LOR trilogy in my teens, well before the Woke crusader began. It was not until the LOR story hit the silver screen that all the racial nonsense started with the anti-white far-left always ready to pick a fight about something not exactly to their tastes and delicate feelings. Hood is correct – it is the liberal media that equated the violent, ugly orcs as blacks. A very interesting observation.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  13. Rich says:
    @Ian Smith

    And, of course, the degenerate homosexual crawls out of the woodwork. Look, Ian, in the emergng White society, those of you who hang around public restrooms on your knees won’t be tolerated. Degenerate behavior has always been forbidden in successful White societies. You’ll get along fine with the mud people in mulatto world.

    • LOL: Ian Smith
  14. Here’s some fantasy for you. Biden’s first year approval rating was said to come in at around 46 percent!!! If true, millions of Americans must be mental cases. lol

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  15. Myth and Meaning, and other works of C G Jung express the same ideas and conceptions.

  16. conatus says:

    Great piece.
    If like Ron Unz says we get our REALITY(curated though it might be) from moving forms on TV and vids, and not from print then Whites are screwed.
    We suck, we are oppressors and need to be shot like in ‘Django Unchained’.
    We are all Germans now! being justly slaughtered by Brad Pitt in ‘Inglorious Basterds’.
    Bomber Harris, directing the allied bombing, did us all a favor murdering 600,000 Germans and destroying the Hanseatic League(They were White,weren’t they?) in a berserk fever of incendiary devices.

    image.png
    A pile of bodies awaiting cremation. Dresden 1945

    This is our future, unless we can find a meat locker to hide in like Kurt Vonnegut.

  17. @Director95

    Before the film came out they pontificated with the same utter conviction
    that Sauron was really Hitler, so there 😀

    I also read the book earlier and thought it nigh-impossible to film but
    apart from the elves being vaguely Nordic the archetypes are not really –
    recognizably – racially charged.
    Then again the Wokies have no problem proclaiming the zombie
    genre is about blacks either.

  18. @James of Africa

    “I think Kubrick intended to make an antiwar film, but fell in love with the Marine Corps in the process.”

    Kubrick directed the seminal anti-war film Paths of Glory (1957). Full Metal Jacket is not an anti-war film; I’m not sure what it is. The thing that strikes me about the film is the breath fog issuing forth from the mouths of the actors as they fight their way through a Vietnamese city. Monsoonal Vietnam sees temps that rarely drop below 60 F., making breath fog impossible, especially at sea level. But Stanley, film technician extraordinaire, didn’t want to leave England.

    • Replies: @James of Africa
  19. PETA is already warning people about “speciesism.

    An interesting topic for your future consideration is how and why the Woke Pantheon seems to have left out the animal rights activists.

    In my younger days I thought those folks were a real threat to human civilization.

    Now they are beginning to look like an about to be forgotten footnote.

    We are definitely in the middle of a top down cramming of “new think” by the self-appointed elites.

    My first thought on this is that these elites view all of the human race as mere animals to be herded at will, so there is no point in distinguishing between different species of animal.

  20. @SunBakedSuburb

    I read somewhere that it was shot among old buildings that were about to be demolished that looked similar to a small Vietnamese city with a little cosmetic enhancement. It was sloppy. I also saw fire reflecting in the camera lens in at least one scene. I still think the boot camp part made the film. Paths of Glory was good, but for some reason I have a hard time with most “anti” films, an action movie can incorporate tragedy as well. I think the hype at the time made some people think that Kubrick intended to get on his soap box with Full Metal Jacket.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  21. Sorry Hood, orcs ARE inferior in every way that matters. And when they’ve driven Whites off to other places, they’ll be unable to maintain what we built. Why? Too fucking inferior. How many cities do you need to see going down the proverbial toilet to finally understand this? Hood is afraid to speak the basic truth along with the ultimate truth, jews are driving this.

  22. As whites, we need a myth to live up to and organize around. This is a strength, but it can be turned against us if we have no control over our myth. The bastardization of white myth seems to fall together with a reduction in long-term memory among modern people. People who do not remember from memory historical events or even mundane things like the weather are malleable.

    If you do not remember floods or droughts from earlier in your lifetime, you can be convinced that a current flood or drought is evidence of changing weather patterns. From there it’s a short step to the theory of man-made climate change. The past is whatever you are told it is, because you do not recall contradicting memories. Taking away or changing racial memory means that you can be told what you are. If you rely on googling facts instead remembering, there is no end to what you can be told about your world. You cannot recall things that you can compare to the narrative to see what has changed.

    The future becomes whatever you are told it will be, with no myth you expect nothing specific besides maybe convenience and entertainment, safety. The present is whatever you are told it is because you have out contracted your critical skills to be handled by “experts” who tell you that they know more about the world than you do.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  23. Tolkien was born in South Africa, coincidentally in the city I grew up in, Bloemfontein. Racial apologists say he could not have based his idea about orcs on black Africans because his family returned to England when he was three years old. But a lot of people recall childhood memories from the time they were toddlers, so have at it.

    • Replies: @Exile
  24. In Lovecraft’s story The Rats in the Wall, his lead character had a black cat he called Niggerman.

  25. Anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Christianity ain’t gonna win because of its reputation for having unsexy and not very bright adherents. The stereotypical young Christian man has a 90-110 IQ and is hopelessly unsexy. Makes for a good enough neighbor, but few men will aspire to that. Of course the lack of sexiness isn’t a problem if the young male Christian has a loyal tradwife, but for that women have to be convinced to marry young and not divorce their husbands. The whole project is slowly but surely failing as more and more young people abandon fundamentalist Christianity.

    Our reality is the real one, we will win.

    But it isn’t, though. The basic claims of the Christian religion are false. Jesus was a mortal man and a failed politician*, nothing more. And whites are smart enough to realize this. Some Christian leaders thought Mexicans would be dumb enough to fall for their superstition long-term, but they’re now abandoning the church in droves. Maybe Congolese and Nigerians will have IQs low enough, but even that’s doubtful.

    *If you read between the lines of the Bible, it’s clear Jesus hoped to be a real political leader (the technical term for claiming to be “King of the Jews” when the Jews were Roman subjects is “sedition”), failed to rally support among the Jews and got crucified for his trouble.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Catdog
    , @He's Spartacus
  26. Smith says:

    Maybe in western countries.
    Fantasy is well and alive in the East.

  27. Rich says:
    @Anon

    I disagree with you on a lot of what you write, but your claim that you have to “read between the lines” about Christ’s ministry on Earth seems contradicted by his very words, “My Kingdom is not of this world.” He taught people to “give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s”. I don’t know, seems a lot of you guys are trying awfully hard to be down on Christianity, but just as a reminder, it was as White Christians that Europeans conquered the world, forced every nation on Earth to kneel, produced the greatest music, literature, architecture and scientific advances in the history of mankind. You can bet that better than 90% of those Pale White engineers at NASA went to Church on Sunday and had a “tradwife”. We can get back what we lost and a return to the religion of our grandfathers wouldn’t be a bad place to start.

    • Agree: Catdog, Zorost
    • Replies: @Exile
    , @Anon
    , @animalogic
  28. Gregory Hood: “Even Abraham Lincoln appealed to the “mystic chords of memory” when he reunited North and South.”

    Wtf!? The “mystic chords of memory” line was from his first inaugural, delivered before the war even started.

    Gregory Hood: “However, we had our own mythic conflict, the War Between the States. This was our Iliad, with legendary commanders and honorable soldiers fighting for glorious causes on both sides.”

    And what, exactly, was the “glorious cause” the North fought for? Freeing the negroes and making them fellow citizens? Yep, that was real fucken glorious. It’s turned out just great.

    Hood should spend less time fantasizing and more time trying to understand American history.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Zorost
  29. Exile says:
    @James of Africa

    Also the literature and media of Tolkien’s youth was much more frank and honest about Africans than the post-colonial stuff was. Brits were steeped in race realism as were most Americans and Commonwealthers back then. Even relatively sympathetic Euros like Carl Jung make Africans sound “orky.”

    • Agree: James of Africa
  30. Exile says:
    @Rich

    I’m not one to needlessly criticize Christians (pagan, full disclosure). I hope you guys throw the moneychangers back out of your temples and generally wish you well.

    But modern alt/”based” Christians need to stop with the “we invented science and modern European civilization” BS.

    Christian era scholars were left an enormous legacy of philosophy, literature and science by the pagans – especially the Greeks and Romans – and more was lost when the oral traditions of the Norse, Celts and Slavs were put to the sword.

    Plato and Aristotle weren’t Christians and they form the backbone of medieval Christian scholarship (which drew on Church fathers who also drank from that well). The Renaissance was almost entirely derived from pagan sources.

  31. Anon[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    “but just as a reminder, it was as White Christians that Europeans conquered the world, forced every nation on Earth to kneel, produced the greatest music, literature, architecture and scientific advances in the history of mankind”

    And I’m sure there’s a way to hand-wave the achievements of pagan Greece and Rome.

    “You can bet that better than 90% of those Pale White engineers at NASA went to Church on Sunday”

    No. You really think religious skepticism dates back to 1968? Criticism of religion was quite common among science fiction writers in the 1960s, and I’ll bet many of those engineers were religious skeptics, even if they let their wives drag them to church.

    “We can get back what we lost and a return to the religion of our grandfathers wouldn’t be a bad place to start.”

    Sorry, but in arguing for the proposition “it’s bad to cut your dick off, prance around in a dress, and call yourself a woman,” I can think of about ten thousand better arguments than “because muh 3,000 year old book of fiction says so.” You’d have us substitute good arguments for bad ones and why? I just can’t see any reason why converting to Christianity would benefit me, nor would it help in political mobilization. Bible thumping simply isn’t popular, despite 70% of Americans calling themselves Christians. Just look at how the Bible thumper candidates did in the Republican primaries in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

    • Replies: @Rich
  32. @James of Africa

    “I still think the boot camp part made the film.”
    I agree. I never found the later “war” section of the film too convincing. There’s something contrived about it.
    “Platoon” & “Apocalypse Now” are probably better anti-war films (using the Vietnam War)
    It’s an interesting idea that a true anti-war film is impossible. I don’t accept it but it’s interesting none the less.
    Personally, I would love to see more “Private Ryan” style “graphic” war films dealing with classical Rome (esp with strict historical values) & the War between the States.

    • Agree: James of Africa
  33. @Rich

    “We can get back what we lost and a return to the religion of our grandfathers wouldn’t be a bad place to start.”
    No one can doubt the role Christianity in the rise of the West (although you argue over specifics & degrees etc) however I seriously doubt t that we can “go back”. Still, it’s not impossible (look at the “resurrection” of the Orthodox church in Russia after 70 years of hostile communism)

  34. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “And what, exactly, was the “glorious cause” the North fought for? Freeing the negroes and making them fellow citizens? Yep, that was real fucken glorious. It’s turned out just great.”
    No. Lincoln (whether we agree or not with his motives etc) fought to bring the successionest States back into the Union. Slaves were never more than a secondary interest for Lincoln — one means to a far greater end.

  35. @animalogic

    I saw Platoon again a while back, and I noticed how effective the movie is. No matter what the soldiers did or how, or to whom, the viewer is drawn to sympathize with them. Simple or even corny things like the new guy who shows his girlfriend’s photo and gets killed early, or Tom Berenger’s scar makeup worked like a charm to help the narrative along. All in a low-budget movie, not bad at all.

  36. Rich says:
    @Anon

    Your way can’t work. 70% of White Americans identify as Christians. How many do you think are going to stop? The best way to unite Whitey against his common enemy isn’t to denigrate the White man’s religion, but to get it back on track and following the strong, energetic Christianity that sent sailboats around the world and developed the world’s most advanced civilization. I’m sure there were plenty of non-believers sitting in the crowded pews in those days, but they knew that teaching your kids not to be promiscuous, to be hard working, to be temperate and to have Faith in a Higher Power was for the benefit of the community. The White community.

    Which “bible thumping” candidates lost elections? Bill Clinton did pretty good waving his Bible around. Biden made a point of going to weekly Mass. We’re not supposed to be looking to elect a high Bishop, but to unite our people around a common Faith, with a common mission. Very few Christians are maniacs shoving their bibles and opinions in other’s faces, that’s a false picture painted by Hollywood producers who have a bias against Christians and seek to divide Whites.

    The clean cut, horn rimmed, married with children Pale White engineers and techs at NASA were all Churchgoers, it was part of the interview process to get the job. I’m not saying they were all “believers”, but they were a community, a White community, that shared common values, one of which, oddly enough, was Sunday services.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  37. Rich says:
    @Exile

    True, we owe a lot to our pre-Christian ancestors, but most of us were living as serfs, or slaves, prior to the coming of Christianity. The flags that were flown over the ships that discovered and conquered the world, had crosses on them. The men who sailed those ships, the men who led those armies, the men whose inventions revolutionized the world, were all baptized Christians. All of them. We were freed by Christian Kings, the men who stopped the Turks at Vienna were praying to the Christian God when we won.

    I don’t know of many Pagans involved in major advances during the Renaissance. I know many were calling themselves “deists”, which was more an offshoot of various Christian sects than a reemergence of the pagan religions. There were many more who called themselves “Christian”, although they may have had quirky, or heretical views of Christianity. I don’t see any way the majority of Whites unite around Odin or Zeus, but I can see us uniting behind a strong, patriarchal Christian Faith, as we have in the past.

    • Replies: @Exile
  38. animalogic: “Lincoln (whether we agree or not with his motives etc) fought to bring the successionest States back into the Union. Slaves were never more than a secondary interest for Lincoln — one means to a far greater end. ”

    Your understanding of American history is almost as bad as Hood’s. If you think slaves were only a secondary interest for Lincoln and the North, instead of the whole point of the war, then you must be one of those idiots who thinks it’s just a coincidence that they were given citizenship and the vote immediately after. The truth is, Lincoln always opposed slavery, and always intended to free them, which is why his efforts to “colonize” them were only half-hearted and an abysmal failure. More, the Republican party was known as the abolitionist party, and Lincoln was widely known as a proponent of this cause. His election was a sign to the South that secession was the only path forward. The South seceded to protect its slavery, and to prevent exactly the disaster that happened, one that the North under Lincoln’s leadership was able to force — extension of citizenship and the vote to negroes.

    “My friends, I have detained you about as long as I desired to do, and I have only to say, let us discard all this quibbling about this man and the other man – this race and that race and the other race being inferior, and therefore they must be placed in an inferior position – discarding our standard that we have left us. Let us discard all these things, and united as one people throughout this land, until we shall once more stand up declaring that all men are created equal.”
    – Abraham Lincoln , speech at Chicago, July 10, 1858

  39. Catdog says:
    @Anon

    But it isn’t, though. The basic claims of the Christian religion are false. Jesus was a mortal man and a failed politician*, nothing more. And whites are smart enough to realize this. Some Christian leaders thought Mexicans would be dumb enough to fall for their superstition long-term, but they’re now abandoning the church in droves. Maybe Congolese and Nigerians will have IQs low enough, but even that’s doubtful.

    Whites have been Christian almost for two thousand years. Most Whites are still Christian. But you’re being disingenuous.

    LARPagans think that Whites will convert to paganism, a dead religion that not even the larpagans themselves believe in! Delusional. I have strong suspicions that paganism is being pushed by homosexuals who would prefer a religion that doesn’t condemn them to hell.

    • Replies: @Exile
    , @Anon
  40. Catdog says:

    Whites have plenty of fantasy. The old stuff still exists, and most people haven’t even read it. What we need is white sci-fi or futurism. People need to see a world of competing ethno-nations to contrast against the universal multiculti sci fi vision. Race is not a topic often examined in sci fi except in the most banal, libshit ways (why can’t the red aliens and green aliens just get along?)

    When the Man in the High Tower show came out, I saw libs complaining because it made nazi america look good. To them, seeing happy white families outside in a nice neighborhood is distasteful enough already even before they put a swastika armband on a little blonde boy’s arm. But many people said, how is this world worse than what we have now?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  41. Exile says:
    @Rich

    Most of you were living as serfs and slaves after the first century as well. Those great men were baptized Christians due to centuries of warfare, coercion and bribery as much as the Good News.

    The Renaissance was fueled by the rediscovery and dissemination of pagan works by men like Plato and Aristotle – no one had the option of being personally pagan in your “free” societies by that date.

    No religion will anchor an effective social or political movement in the modern world. The fascists realized this and took a fairly agnostic view to religion as a result. Communists were aggressive atheists – dogmatic nihilistic materialism isn’t the answer – but religion can’t and shouldn’t center your politics. Religion informs morality and culture and politics through them but it only tangentially speaks to policy.

    Christian reactionaries hoping to somehow wind back the clock to the pre-Enlightenment are no threat to power. E. Michael Jones can’t pass the “would you accept a Black pope” question. That’s the problem with theological nationalism in a nutshell.

    Nations are based first on biology and culture – religion is only an element of that and not the dominant one.

    • Replies: @Rich
  42. Exile says:
    @Catdog

    Homosexuals are running the Catholic church and Protestantism is almost as gay now.

    Try preaching about gays going to Hell in your local church and see how it works out for you. Christian churches where that kind of preaching goes on are just as “fringe” as pagans are now.

    If you want to crow over the alleged “dead corpse” of my religion, I’m going to point out that Jews and fellow-traveling homos are killing yours as we speak.

    If it weren’t for Zio-friendly/useful idiots in Christianity, you’d be marginalized more than we are.

  43. @Exile

    The Renaissance was almost entirely derived from pagan sources.

    Yeah, about that.

    The artistic and architectural achievements of the 15th and 16th centuries (usually what people mean when they say “Renaissance”) were absolutely inspired by attempts to recreate and surpass Greco-roman models, but unquestionably the driving force behind those attempts was a desire to glorify the Christian God and His Church, not a desire to return to paganism.

    The scientific revolution which was happening around the same time, on the other hand, was largely a repudiation of the Greco-roman heritage. Copernicus and Galileo (both devout Christians) argued against the Greek conception of the solar system, and Kepler (also Christian) finished it off. The main thrust of ancient Greek philosophy taught that out perceptions could not be trusted, and that nature was ever changing, and therefore studying nature was a fool’s errand. Christian theology taught that the universe was ordered in a rational and measurable way, leading Alfred North Whitehead to note (rightly, I think) that science was actually a fruit of medieval Christian theology.

    Our pagan heritage is something to be treasured, but it is only one strand of the cord that makes Western civilization. It was in the Christian church, and only in the Christian church, that all of those strands were twined together to create a unified set of European cultures. And it is only the Christian church that could ever do it again. As one polemicist put it, “Europe is the Faith. And the Faith is Europe. Europe will either return to the Faith, or it will perish.”

  44. @Anon

    If you read between the lines of the Bible, it’s clear Jesus hoped to be a real political leader

    I notice that when you say “read between the lines,” what you mean is, “don’t read it at all and then make up a completely new story that fits better with your own personal prejudices.” Nice one.

  45. @Catdog

    “What we need is white sci-fi or futurism.”

    There is no future for whites only genre stories in corporate publishing or Hollywood. Enterprising scribes who burn to create a new Nordic mythos might want to begin on a platform like substack and begin telling your stories. Stay away from the white supremacist/Nazi worship of the past because you don’t want to build an audience of those losers. You can help build a white/Euro-centric cultural renaissance without that negative baggage.

  46. @Exile

    “The Renaissance was almost entirely derived from pagan sources.”

    With an assist from the Islamic world. I have respect for Christian culture and its works of beauty but find its creed shallow and full of plot-holes. Christianity is essentially an appendage of Judaism.

  47. Rich says:
    @Exile

    It’s a myth that the Renaissance was “fueled by the rediscovery..of pagan works”. There were plenty of scientific advances made during “dark ages” and scientists were of course always advancing based on past discoveries. With the invention of the printing press (invented by a Christian), it was possible for even more information to be disseminated. Perhaps it was because the “option” of being a pagan wasn’t available that so much progress was made.

    Biology and culture are, of course, important, but religion has always been the most important factor in the success of a people. European peoples reached their greatest heights, the greatest achievements in mankind’s short history, as Christians. As a people who didn’t have the “option” of being pagans. Now, when paganism and atheism and other “faiths” are acceptable, our people are in retreat, our societies are corrupted, degeneracy is put forward as normal. Christianity is the only option that can reinvigorate White society, and return us to our rightful place in the universe.

    Naturally, a black pope would be unacceptable.

  48. @James of Africa

    “If you rely on googling facts instead of remembering …”

    Leftist authoritarians fantasize about Year Zero when they can google troublesome notions into oblivion. Hard copies of forbidden texts and media will become treasures. I hope this isn’t the future we face but, at least in the United States, these fools are mostly white fanatics who control important institutions and industry and seem to want to burn the world their ancestors built to ash because racism. They are puppets of a Western cartel that seeks to reset civilization through herd culling and a digital control system.

    • Agree: James of Africa
    • Replies: @James of Africa
  49. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Catdog

    Religious people are a mixed bag. Some are reasonable and intelligent. But there’s a loud minority who will never ally with secular people even when those seculars share all their socially conservative views. And the reason is because deep down they know that the real reason they are religious is because it’s a psychological crutch which helps them cope in the face of their inevitable death. To admit that someone can be intelligent, moral, and psychologically healthy without their God-crutch is to admit their own inferiority and weakness. So they will blithely assert that all non-religious people are secret homosexuals or communists or drunks or wife-beaters. The guy they hate most is not the homosexual or the drug addict or the serial killer. It’s the clean-shaven, high-earning, intelligent, happily-married atheist, who gets by without that crutch.

  50. Here is some more fantasy for you. I was turning channels the other night on the TV when Jimmy Kimmel was still babbling about, ” the guy who might bring Trump down.” What is it about these people. Trump hasn’t been in office for a year and apparently these talk show hosts, still need him to bolster their shows ratings? Sigh……It’s not entertainment. It’s boring, uninteresting garbage..

    • Agree: James of Africa
  51. Rich: “Biology and culture are, of course, important, but religion has always been the most important factor in the success of a people.”

    So, according to you, the Greeks and the Romans were only successful because of their belief in Zeus and Jupiter? LOL.

    The idea of putting religion over race (i.e., biology and culture) is a distinctively Christian one, and a principal source of Christianity’s racial egalitarianism. The result of this egalitarian worldview is that it’s always more important for a Christian that his religion prospers than that his race does. “Racist Christians” are either oxymorons, or true morons who don’t understand the anti-racist implications of their own professed religion.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Rich
  52. @SunBakedSuburb

    One of the reasons I prefer to pirate movies by using torrents in stead of streaming is that I believe censorship is the future of the digital world. Keep the old things from before the coming slow digital reset, don’t trust institutions to preserve a single thing. Books and stored digital media are a supplement to natural memory.

    I also try to collect high quality digitized copies of film era photographs. There are limits to what can be stored, but I find that looking at old visual records of the past is a great memory game. Try to remember the time and context of let’s say photos of the US civil war, WW I, the early space program, 1950’s culture, for example. Memes and illustrative art works well too.

  53. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Must have surveyed all those waiting to cross the borders…

  54. @Rich

    Naturally, a black pope would be unacceptable.

    I can’t even begin to imagine what sort of Christian argument you could mount against that.

    • Replies: @Rich
  55. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Racist Christians” are either oxymorons, or true morons who don’t understand the anti-racist implications of their own professed religion.

    Christianity manages to permit people to care more about their own families than other people’s families despite there being no explicit scriptural instruction on this point (AFAIK), so it’s not clear why it couldn’t permit people to care more about their own extended family – their race – than about other extended families.

    Also, your specious interpretation of Christian doctrine would have it be impossible that two Christian armies could ever wage war on each other. Of course, we know from history how absurd that notion is. If it’s permissible for Christians, under the right circumstances, to butcher each other, you figure it should be possible for Christians, under the right circumstances, to exclude each other from the other’s territory (ie to racially separate).

    That said, it cannot be denied that Christianity today is a huge source of racial cuckery, and it shows no signs of letting up. Typically finding themselves at odds with most progressive moral innovations, Christians seem elated that at least there’s one item on the progressive agenda they can wholeheartedly champion: “anti-racism.”

    • Agree: Fidelios Automata
  56. Rich says:
    @silviosilver

    There are several theological arguments that can be made against a black pope, but they aren’t necessary. It would be unacceptable to me, and I would leave the Catholic Church. That simple.

  57. @Rich

    The clean cut, horn rimmed, married with children Pale White engineers and techs at NASA were all Churchgoers, it was part of the interview process to get the job.

    That proved they could be easily conned when it came time to fake the Apollo missions.

    This will be exposed in due time–you really do not want to go there….

  58. silviosilver: “Christianity manages to permit people to care more about their own families than other people’s families despite there being no explicit scriptural instruction on this point (AFAIK), so it’s not clear why it couldn’t permit people to care more about their own extended family – their race – than about other extended families.”

    LOL. I suggest you stop by any local church. They’ll be happy to explain to you how racism is a stench in God’s nostrils, and an offense to rabbi Jesus.

    silviosilver: “Also, your specious interpretation of Christian doctrine would have it be impossible that two Christian armies could ever wage war on each other. Of course, we know from history how absurd that notion is. ”

    What we should learn from history is that when Christians quarrel over religious matters, each considers the other side heretics, not “real” Christians at all.

    silviosilver: “That said, it cannot be denied that Christianity today is a huge source of racial cuckery, and it shows no signs of letting up. ”

    Your one true statement.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  59. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    LOL. I suggest you stop by any local church. They’ll be happy to explain to you how racism is a stench in God’s nostrils, and an offense to rabbi Jesus.

    I’m sure they would. But this merely describes an existing tendency and ignores my argument that there’s no inherent reason for it.

    What we should learn from history is that when Christians quarrel over religious matters, each considers the other side heretics, not “real” Christians at all.

    Catholics fought Catholics on numerous occasions without having to denounce the opposing force as heretical. More recently, Protestant Britain and Protestant Germany happily butchered each other. (And please note, it would make no sense to argue that Britain and Germany weren’t Christian enough by then to care about fighting each other but are too Christian today to be “racist.”)

    You’ve made it perfectly clear how little you think of Christianity. But I have a funny feeling that even if white racial attitudes hardened enough to resemble those of 1922, it still wouldn’t be good enough for you if they came in Christian wrapping.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  60. silviosilver: “But this merely describes an existing tendency and ignores my argument that there’s no inherent reason for it.”

    That’s why I referred you to your local church! They will explain the reasons. Your argument is with them, not me.

    silviosilver: “Catholics fought Catholics on numerous occasions without having to denounce the opposing force as heretical. More recently, Protestant Britain and Protestant Germany happily butchered each other.”

    I fail to see what this has to do with my original statement, that Christians think that Christianity trumps race, which you spuriously claimed was “specious”. I didn’t say that Christians can’t be hypocrites. On the contrary, they’re well known for it.

    silviosilver: “… if white racial attitudes hardened enough to resemble those of 1922, it still wouldn’t be good enough for you if they came in Christian wrapping. ”

    In numerous previous comments I’ve explained why certain elements of the Christian worldview must inevitably lead to anti-racism. Most recently, for example, I discussed free will, which is believed in by most Christians:

    https://www.unz.com/article/my-paper-on-jewish-influence-blows-up/#comment-5106314

    So, yes, I think that anything in a “Christian wrapping” will be racially destructive.

  61. Alrenous says: • Website

    Though the war against “hate” is unwinnable (until, presumably, whites are gone)

    When proggies say “hate” what they’re referring to is envy. Their problem is that the browner races envy Europeans…but of course you can’t come right out and say you’re resentful. Have to pretend it’s something else.

    This is why East Asians are honourary whites: they are also envied by the browner races.

    N.B. “white” isn’t a real race, it’s an American legal category crafted for the convenience of proggies. See also: “black.”

    We’re just consumers. Our rulers appear to want it that way.

    Friedrich Nietzsche called the state the “coldest of the cold monsters.” He rejected the idea that the state created a people. He championed the Germany of artists and scholars, the German nation defined by culture that predated Bismarck’s Second Reich.

    The State is rather correctly defined in polisci circles as the locus of legitimized coercion.

    Problem: the true fundamental theorem of sociology is the prisoner’s dilemma. The phrase “legitimzed coercion” means “legalized crime,” which means every State is literally a mafia. They basically admit this: they like to talk about stationary bandits. To repeat the problem: bandits are still criminals.

    The standard State is defective or deviant government.
    Evolution certainly hasn’t prepared homo sapiens to farm or live in cities, but continually accepting parasitical rulers as the highest authority is the real face of Original Sin.

    The first voluntary-government society is going to faceroll everyone. The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is that the deviant States are well aware of the competitive advantage and go into full poop-flinging shrieking monkey fits when they catch the slightest whiff of them.

  62. Alrenous says: • Website

    P.S. States like Christianity because it’s a book-burning history-hating cult.

    • Disagree: Rich
  63. @silviosilver

    You’ve made it perfectly clear how little you think of Christianity.

    Christianity has buried itself with centuries of terror followed by centuries of stupidity–the current anti-Pope is the poster child for self-destructive behavior.

    If Christians want to find their enemy, they need to look in the mirror.

  64. @Vergissmeinnicht

    Yes! Anime also has some woke garbage, but it’s not the default or primary mode. Japanese do not hate their history and culture, as we Americans are propagandized to do. There’s also a fair amount of Germanophilia, probably more so than the actual Germans.

  65. Richard B says:
    @obwandiyag

    They ought to let Indians play Thor. I think they would do a good job.

    You mean an Indian who likes to drink the white man’s whiskey but unlike the white man never got around to making wheels? Yeah, they’d make a perfect Thor. GTFOOH!

    Remember all those Westerns where they had Italians play Indians.

    Not just Italians, but also Jews. Who will ever forget Michael Granger as Chief Mike in The Battle of Rogue River. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Granger

    In fact, in this one the Indians look like extras from The Fiddler On The Roof.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  66. @Rich

    Not being Catholic, I don’t have an opinion on this issue, but I have no doubt that if the Vatican continues its journey of wokeness, it WILL happen by 2042 (if not sooner.)

  67. Rich says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You must not be too familiar with Roman or Greek history if you’re unfamiliar with the importance of religion in both societies. Speaking against the state gods was punishable by death. Religious faith is usually the force that brings a nation together and most states recognized this in the past. The Spanish only allowed the Jews and Moslems who converted to Christianity to remain. The English ran all the priests out of their Kingdom and married off the nuns.

    You do understand that slave owners and segregationists were Church going Christians, right? You realize that all those Confederate statues being torn down were of White men who were baptized Christians? All those ships that set out from Europe to conquer the world sailed under flags with Crosses on them. Returning to segregated Churches would be simple, and is probably inevitable.

    • Replies: @Anon
  68. Zorost says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    STFU southerner. You people lost, get over it. You also lost the battle of protecting the statues of your heroes; oh wait, you didn’t even bother showing up for that battle. Your people also convicted 2 people for defending themselves against a nigger robber. The south is already about 50% nigger; in 20 years your people will be gone. Do something about that IRL, stop trying to make yourself feel better about your peoples’ imminent nigrification by trying to “well aktually” people online.

  69. Rich: “You must not be too familiar with Roman or Greek history if you’re unfamiliar with the importance of religion in both societies. … Religious faith is usually the force that brings a nation together and most states recognized this in the past.”

    In mankind’s ignorant and superstitious past, religion played a big role, true. However, your point was that it was more important than anything else; more important than biology and other aspects of culture combined; and further, you argued that it was Christianity’s superiority to other possible “faiths” that made whites great, the founders of a world empire. Instead, I’d argue that the Greeks and Romans succeeded mainly due to their genetic advantages. I’d also argue that atheistic science and technology, which have nothing to do with faith, Christian or otherwise, are the source of the white man’s world dominance.

    Rich: “The Spanish only allowed the Jews and Moslems who converted to Christianity to remain.”

    How’d that work out for them? Aren’t these the same conversos that religious nuts like to complain have “infiltrated” and “subverted” the Church? LOL.

    Rich: “You do understand that slave owners and segregationists were Church going Christians, right?”

    Unfortunately, the abolitionists on the other side were Christian fanatics. And they won.

    Rich: “All those ships that set out from Europe to conquer the world sailed under flags with Crosses on them.”

    Yes, the first steps towards creating a racially-mixed, global society were taken by Christians. As a race-mixing creed, Christianity is perfect for that. Apparently you’re proud of it. I don’t see it as a plus.

    Rich: “Returning to segregated Churches would be simple, and is probably inevitable.”

    Sure, simple! LOL. Now all you need to do is convince the 99.999+% of the rest of the world’s Christians who don’t agree with you.

  70. @Richard B

    Indians invented many superlatively wonderful and amazing things, like arboreal agriculture (ask somebody what terra preta is, oh fatuous one), to take only one instance of myriads,that are inconceivable to lunkheads like you who think wheels are all there is because, in your dumbbell world, well, wheels are all there is.

    • Troll: Richard B
  71. Anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    “Religious faith is usually the force that brings a nation together” is only true if you tautologically define your nation in religious terms. If you don’t, it looks like kicking productive members of your nation out for superstitious reasons, the opposite of “unity.”

    • Replies: @Rich
  72. Rich says:
    @Anon

    Where is the successful nation that didn’t have a unified religious faith? I don’t see it. Even the commies had religious faith in their Marxist ideology. The US is fast becoming the experiment in an irreligious empire, and it doesn’t look like it’s going too well. Kicking out “undesirables” actually has the effect of uniting the rest of the country. Spain became great after kicking out the Jews and the Moslems, England grew powerful under it’s all powerful Anglican Faith. The Russians under Orthodoxy, then fell apart after emancipating its minority religions. All empires, all great nations are religious on the way up, irreligious on the way down. All of them.

    • Replies: @Jar Jar Biks
  73. Rich: “Even the commies had religious faith in their Marxist ideology. ”

    People who define atheism as a “faith” stretch the word beyond any meaning. I understand that Christians like Rich need to do this though, despite it being ridiculous. It helps them think of themselves as the one true “faith”, which is psychologically very important to them. But if you’re going to engage in such rhetorical shenanigans, why not define science and technology as a faith? That’s what modern people really believe in. Superstitions like Christianity are losing ground as mankind puts its “faith” in science instead. Even the Christians do this, though they’re loath to admit it. For example, if a Christian’s car breaks down, does he take it to a mechanic who will use scientific techniques to diagnose and fix it, or does he try to fix it by praying to Jesus? To ask is to answer. Deep down, even Christians know that science gets results. Prayer doesn’t.

    Rich: “All empires, all great nations are religious on the way up, irreligious on the way down. All of them.”

    Not true. The Roman Empire, for example, was famously tolerant of alien religions. So was the empire of Alexander the Great. Also, in our own times, many here at Unz think that atheistic China is “on the way up” and will soon supplant America as the world’s largest empire. They could be right.

    • Replies: @Rich
  74. Its been the longstanding theory that the elite, as well as any oppressive power structure desires illiterate and unlearned populace to keep their status firmly secure.

    I don’t think this is true; just look at modern academia, or all the 20th century commie regimes offering to teach their children how to read (Marx).

    The point is the education can be ‘fixed’ and made safe, that is, no longer a threat to those who run the show. In fact, they can slip in so much bullshit it can turn out to be an asset to them, not a concession.

    But deracination and the general theme of this article, is that it seems they are trying to make sure that everybody’s memory is ‘short’. Classical literature, fantasy elements borrowed from medieval times, won’t qualify. In fact its dangerous.

    This isn’t to say that the physchopath races like blacks, amerindians, and arabs aren’t at all ‘safe’ as in interpersonal interactions, but to a cabal with no pretense of human rights and would never intend to even be near their favelas or ghettos, they’re the perfect peons. There’s an uprising of bronze colored peasants? Shoot them all. There’s another? Repeat. Like lane pins at a bowler’s championship, really.

    For instance, for all the majesty the media has portrayed on our historic amerindian tribes here in the U.S.A, including spirituality, you’ll eventually notice some subtle, silly things.

    Some of the big southwest tribes venerating entities like the ‘Great Horse Spirit’ or whatever, doesn’t exactly suggest millenia deep belief (or sincere belief), as we know the history of horses in the new world, which was very new.

    But that’s the type of cultural retardation our jewy overlords are looking for. Pop culture everything; religion, literature, wisdom. They want everything to be collectively forgotten in a TV season or so’s worth of time. Old stories will be revamped at whismy to turn into whatever ethnicity is in vogue that year, month, or week. And the more silly this all is, the more strong the distraction, and the quicker the masses will forget the last thing… and repeat.

    Blank slate, transient dopes are like a never-ending renewable resources for con artists.

  75. @Rich

    America has NEVER had a unified religious faith. Puritans and Quakers and Anglicans and Catholics and Mormons, you can’t just wish away the historical religious tensions anymore than the multiculti can just wish away ethnic tension. You know those churchgoing NASA workers you romanticize? Some were Protestant and some were Catholic and they voted for different political parties and if a Protestant wanted to marry a Catholic the parents would often have a fit. That reminds me quite a bit of the contemporary Christian/atheist division.

    • Replies: @Rich
  76. Rich says:
    @Jar Jar Biks

    As a Catholic American I wish it weren’t so, but the US had good old fashioned Protestantism as its Faith. Catholics were a small minority concentrated in a few major cities during the nation’s rise. Only one of the signers of the Declaration was Catholic, nary a Jew nor Musselman nearby. I understand that there were some serious differences between Protestant sects, but they were united enough to serve as the unifying Faith of the growing empire.

  77. @animalogic

    (esp with strict historical values)

    Shoot it in Latin.

  78. Rich says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Well, Herr Doktor, I wonder if you’ve ever met a real communist? They preach, they live their belief system, they follow the orders of their superiors, the true believers are actually cult-like in their adherence to the different types of Marxism. I understand that some folks are unable to make the connection, either because they lack the necessary thinking skills, or have pre-determined mindsets that prevent them from considering different viewpoints. Your understanding of Roman tolerance is a little soft, the Romans absorbed the foreign religion, but then required the conquered to accept the Roman gods, even to the point of accepting the emperor as a god when that became part of the Roman religion. Many Christians suffered death for refusing to worship the emperor according to historical records.

    • Replies: @Anon
  79. Rich: “[Marxists] preach, they live their belief system, they follow the orders of their superiors, the true believers are actually cult-like in their adherence to the different types of Marxism.”

    Humans are natural-born conformists, and some of them are capable of becoming obsessed with certain things. That doesn’t make atheistic Marxism a religion. To call the hatred of religion itself a religion makes about as much sense as calling the hatred of alcoholism itself a form of alcoholism.

    Rich: “Your understanding of Roman tolerance is a little soft, the Romans absorbed the foreign religion, but then required the conquered to accept the Roman gods, even to the point of accepting the emperor as a god when that became part of the Roman religion.”

    On the contrary, intolerance entered the classical world only with the coming of Christianity. The Romans didn’t forbid worship of local deities as the Christians later did to pagans, whom they persecuted and murdered in vast numbers. They only wanted a pro forma expression of loyalty to Rome.

    Rich: “Many Christians suffered death for refusing to worship the emperor according to historical records. ”

    According to Christian propaganda, you mean. Contemporary historians admit the Christian claims of martyrdom are greatly exaggerated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Persecution

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  80. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Marxism lacks a supernatural element, and if such an element is deemed essential to religion, on this basis marxism would not fit the definition. However, marxism’s acceptance of equality as metaphysically axiomatic rests on nothing more than faith, so if the retention of faith against all contrary evidence is the distinguishing mark of a religion, then marxism would qualify.

    According to Christian propaganda, you mean. Contemporary historians admit the Christian claims of martyrdom are greatly exaggerated.

    Rich said “many” Christians were martyred, so depending on what one takes “many” to mean, his statement was not necessarily fallacious.

  81. Marxism is nothing but an ersatz religion. A fake substitute for true faith. Marxists are committing the sin of idolatry by adoring a crackpot 19 century economist and a dead white male. Nothing good will come of it.

  82. silviosilver: “Marxism lacks a supernatural element, and if such an element is deemed essential to religion, on this basis marxism would not fit the definition. However, marxism’s acceptance of equality as metaphysically axiomatic rests on nothing more than faith, so if the retention of faith against all contrary evidence is the distinguishing mark of a religion, then marxism would qualify. ”

    “All Communist systems in the West are in fact derived from Christian theological thought … Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.”
    – Oswald Spengler, in The Hour of Decision

    Since it descends from Christian theological thought, it’s not surprising that it should superficially appear to share something in common with it. However, Marx makes no metaphysical claims about the nature of man; nothing based on Christian creation fables or “faith” at all, though one may question some of his assumptions. Notice I am also responding here to Rich’s idiotic characterization made in #47 above — one frequently made by Christians — that atheism is itself a “faith”. Hatred of religion by atheists is no more a “faith” than hatred of atheists by Christians makes them atheists.

    Christians were the antifa of the ancient world; they were the original communists, and they managed to bring down civilization once. Whether we are in for a repeat performance only the future will tell.

  83. Anon[567] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Well, Herr Doktor, I wonder if you’ve ever met a real communist? They preach, they live their belief system, they follow the orders of their superiors, the true believers are actually cult-like in their adherence to the different types of Marxism.

    This is a common observation, yet this is the first time I’ve heard it in the context of “and that’s a good thing, or at least it’s better than modern America, which lacks a dogmatic cult-like belief system and so will inevitably decline.” Nearly everyone agrees that dogmatism, in general, is bad. We would have a dim view of someone who had a dogmatic belief in a 19th-century medical textbook, in the efficacy of some special fad diet, or one’s ability to predict the stock market. Yet you’ve managed to convince yourself that society needs one belief in a dogma that can’t be questioned, which can be beneficial even if the claims of that dogma(Marxism or “false” religions like Islam) are false. This is an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary evidence. I haven’t seen it. While it’s true that America is secularizing at the same time it’s declining, the most plausible challenger to America, China, is also quite secular.

    • Replies: @Rich
  84. Rich says:
    @Anon

    Is China secular? My understanding of Mainland China is they are a Confucian society with a weird mix of Maoism and now, capitalism. I think a small amount of religious diversity probably isn’t terrible, American Protestantism with its many different sects,, worked pretty well to set the country on its upward journey. My conclusion from reading history is that strong, rising nations have a single religion that serves to unite the people. Nations in decline, don’t. Is that really such an extraordinary observation to you?

  85. Rich: “… American Protestantism with its many different sects,, worked pretty well to set the country on its upward journey.”

    America was never more unified than during the Civil War! Maximum Christianity at work there.

    Rich: “My conclusion from reading history is that strong, rising nations have a single religion that serves to unite the people. Nations in decline, don’t.”

    Except that Rome was diverse and tolerant on the way up, and “unified” under Christianity, it sank.

    Besides, Christianity doesn’t unify, it divides. Catholic or Protestant, homoousian or homoiousian, Christians have always been happy to kill each other over the most minor quibbles. This is quite in accord with rabbi Jesus’ saying that he came not to bring peace, but to set father against son, and mother against daughter. It would take an honest Christian to admit that, but unfortunately there are none, since “honest” and “Christian” are mutually exclusive terms.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  86. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I don’t see why you need to drag the civil war into it, since religious differences played next to no part in it. From the time of American independence to the civil war, American religious diversity was probably a close analog of Rome – wherein the different gods and cults were largely treated as the same entities with merely different names and customs associated with them. That is, it was not strict unity, but nor was it debilitating diversity (until the arrival of Christianity). Similarly, American religious diversity was not particularly debilitating until rather recently.

    homoousian or homoiousian, Christians have always been happy to kill each other over the most minor quibbles.

    Yes, it’s ironic that a faith initially marked by its fierce anti-intellectualism quickly became obsessed with theological hair-splitting over matters that were unresolvable.

  87. Authority in religion is the power to impose ones definitions on ones theological rivals. In other words, theological hair-splitting is a power struggle within an institution. “Wokeness” is no different.

  88. It’s kinda puzzling why Dr Robert Morgan is so determined to defend the Lincolnite carpetbagger post-war mythology of the origins of the War of Northern Aggression. It was all about slavery, nothing else had anything to do with it, such as tariffs and free trade, no, no no, it was all about slavery, it wasn’t a vicious war of conquest by the descendants of the Tories(those who didn’t flee to Canada) no, no, no, those racist bluebellies were fighting to preserve the Union, where the Yankee definition of patriotism is loyalty to their bullying ways, really died for the benefit of the Negro.

    The War to Prevent Southern Independence was nothing but a nasty power stuggle where the wrong side won.

  89. silviosilver: “I don’t see why you need to drag the civil war into it, since religious differences played next to no part in it.”

    I don’t agree with this at all. The North’s conception of the slave was quite different than the South’s, and the difference reflected an underlying difference in Christian theology. Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin depicts the negro as Christ-like, and this sympathetic portrayal played a big role in stirring up war fever. Needless to say, Southerners didn’t see slaves that way. This disagreement was sharpened to crystal clarity in the Dred Scott decision, which held that slaves were only property, not men with God-given rights at all, or even if men, fundamentally different in kind due to their race. Thus, I see the Civil War as yet another war of one Christian sect against another. Further, without this essential element of religious fanaticism, I believe it’s foolish to think the war would have taken place. Lincoln himself admitted this in his first inaugural address: “One section of our country believes slavery is right, and ought to be extended, while the other believes it is wrong, and ought not to be extended. This is the only substantial dispute.” Further, in his second inaugural, Lincoln again says very clearly that slavery was the cause of the war. Also, cf. my remark in #38 above.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  90. lydia says:
    @Rich

    Eventually, Ecclesia and Synagoga are replaced by two institutional symbols: the (Christian) Pope and the (Jewish) High Priest.

    2. Synagoga is depicted as blind and loses her crown.

    http://documenta-akermariano.blogspot.com/2013/08/ecclesia-et-synagoga.html

    • Replies: @lydia
  91. lydia says:
    @lydia

    By contrast, Synagoga, representing Judaism, was shown downcast and forlorn in her defeat, bearing broken tablets and blindfolded—illustrating her blindness to the “truth” of the New Testament. Many European cathedrals bear the statues of Ecclesia and Synagoga, and they are depicted in stained glass as well. Mary C. Boys, author of Has God Only One Blessing? Judaism as a Source of Christian Self-Understanding (New York and Mahwah, New Jersey: Paulist Press/Stimulus Books, 2000), found this representation troubling. She commissioned a new artwork to accompany her book. The new Ecclesia and Synagoga also appears on the cover of Friends on the Way: Jesuits Encounter Contemporary Judaism, ed. Thomas Michel, S.J. (Fordham UP, 2007).[2] This interpretation by sculptor Paula Mary Turnbull, S.N.J.M., offers “a new depiction of Ecclesia and Synagoga, where both stand tall as representations of their faith communities.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/841117667917157095/

  92. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Fair enough.

    Harriet Beecher Stowe’s novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin depicts the negro as Christ-like

    Today, of course, it is whites who are Christ-like, sacrificing all that they have been, all that they are, and all that might be, for the benefits of other races; many of whom do not even like whites, and will certainly not thank whites for their sacrifice, or even recognize it.

    I wonder if the realization that they are playing this role would cause white Christians to snap out of their “anti-racist” delusions, or to embrace the role with added fervor.

  93. silviosilver: “Today, of course, it is whites who are Christ-like, sacrificing all that they have been, all that they are, and all that might be, for the benefits of other races; many of whom do not even like whites, and will certainly not thank whites for their sacrifice, or even recognize it.”

    It becomes all the more perverse and even surreal when you add in the fact that Jesus was likely a fictional character, at least according to the researches of Dr. Richard Carrier, but in any case, even if he did exist as an historical personage, was a Jew with a Jew’s typical appearance and dispositions. Modern-day Jesus as whites conceive him is a creation of the white collective mind. I have speculated as to the reasons for this in some of my other comments.

    silviosilver: “I wonder if the realization that they are playing this role would cause white Christians to snap out of their “anti-racist” delusions, or to embrace the role with added fervor. ”

    Hood’s opening sentence applies here: “Without myth, we aren’t a people.” Ironic that the white race’s fate, and the fate of its civilization should depend upon this Jesus myth it has constructed, isn’t it? A great cosmic joke!

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