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All the talk today is of the tensions between globalism and populism, the latter often nationalistic. The globalists have generally been too optimistic in their rhetoric, wishfully thinking that the time of nations and states is simply over. In fact, the nation-state remains an irreducible reality in politics everywhere, even as this entity is undeniably in decline.

The “national” is in decline in two distinct ways. Firstly, Western nations are disintegrating everywhere, their respective core ethnies losing ground to rapidly-expanding Hispanic, Asian, African, and Islamic settlements, notably in the large cities and, in the United States, across all the southernmost states from west to east.

Many of the major cities are simply lost. London can no longer be said to be part of the English nation in any meaningful sense. Indeed, London’s government under Sadiq Khan has been at pains to emphasize this fact, arguing that, I quote, “London is anyone, London is everyone.” In the same way, Paris is no longer really part of the French nation, nor can Los Angeles and New York City be said to be part of the same nation as the American Midwest.

Secondly, Western elites are more and more apatride – nationless – psychologically. The residents of these same “global cities” simply no longer identify with the core of their historic nations and, indeed, are possessed by various degrees of fear and loathing for the rural folk who have the audacity to vote for the (more-or-less insipid) right-wing parties and not be in tune with the metropolitan classes’ latest ideological fashions. Thus, these elites feel no need to defend the economic, cultural, and demographic interests of their own citizens – which is at best considered selfish and at worst “racism,” the gravest of sins. Today, many left-wing parties show open contempt for the very idea of borders and nationhood, let alone national solidarity.

The phenomenon of an apatride elite is part of the reason why many have come to believe the “statal” part of “nation-state” is also in decline today. But this is quite inaccurate. The state shows no signs of decline and indeed has become all-encompassing and outright obese. If the state does not take action today in the face of the winds of globalization – on immigration, on economics – it is not because it no longer has the means, but simply because the elites have lost the desire to defend their constituents.

There is no point getting worked into an impotent rage regarding these trends. Rather, we should reflect on why the nation-state arose and why it is declining.

I think we need to consider the basic facts of human life, namely our psychology, which is more or less fixed, at least in broad makeup, and our technology, which has enabled spectacular changes in day-to-day human life over the past thousands of years.

Psychologically, the key issue seems to me to be that of identification. Ethnic identification appears to be a hard-wired human impulse, much akin to children’s aptitude for adopting languages. This is evident in the fact that even infants instinctively identify different races and accents, and show a preference for the race and accent of their parents. If we look at modern history, we find that again and again societies fail to consolidate into a common ethno-national identity because of the lack of a common language (Austria-Hungary, Canada, Belgium, the Soviet Union . . .) and/or race (United States of America, Brazil, South Africa, Malaysia . . .). Of course, additional cultural and religious factors can further subdivide people into further ethnies but, as a rule, it seems shared language and continental ancestry are the two basic ingredients for forming an ethny.

Identification seems to stem in large part from socialization. An infant, assuming he or she is of the same continental race as their parents, will come to identify ethnically with them through constant contact, seeing their features, and hearing their voices. By contrast, transracial adoptees – a black child raised by white parents or vice versa – is likely to develop highly conflicted feelings and not feel wholly part of his adoptive ethny. This can even be the case for multiracial children, such as one Barack Obama, who despite being exactly half-white and half-black, felt no affinity for Europe. As he explained in his memoirs: “And by the end of the first week or so [in Europe], I realized that I’d made a mistake. It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.”

The family – especially if the two parents are of the same ethnicity – seems to be a powerful driver of ethnic identity creation. All across Europe, the society may speak one language, the state may prescribe another, but if enough families speak another language at home, then we have an autonomous ethnic group and resulting ethnic tensions. See: Catalonia, Flanders, and indeed most of the Balkans.

Family is obviously one of the chief ways people socialize. But there are others: the street, school, the workplace, church, as well as through mediating technologies, namely books, newspapers, radio, television, and the Internet.

It seems to me that the expression and potency of ethnic and religious identity has fluctuated throughout human history through the emergence of these technologies.

In very ancient times, people seemed to have chiefly identified with their tribe, each one having their own gods, prescribing loyalty only to their own blood.

With the invention of writing, it became possible to create long-lasting and homogeneous imperial and religious bureaucracies that went beyond the individual tribe. Hence, in time the purely particularistic identification of the Greeks and other ancient nations came to be replaced by the “dual citizenship” of the Roman Empire. Cicero is emblematic in expressing both the local patriotism of his hometown and imperial Roman patriotism.

Empires and religions (and languages, for that matter) spread much more easily than did peoples, who tend to be very “viscous” as soon as there is any significant population density. Great emperors like Constantine and Ashoka appear to have seized upon Christianity and Buddhism, in part, as means of giving a common identity to their otherwise very diverse subjects. Throughout the Middle Ages, people had various local identities and a common Christian identity. Publications were chiefly in Latin rather than the local language, also encouraging a Christian identity among intellectuals.

Conditions have dramatically changed since the Middle Ages, notably in Europe, with the steady spread of literacy and of local vernaculars, suddenly promoted to national languages. National identity is evident among the intellectuals as early as the Renaissance (if not earlier in some cases, as in the eleventh-century Song of Roland). Machiavelli’s notorious The Prince concludes with a rousing call to unite Italy and expel the (French and Spanish) barbarians; Luther exhorted the German nobility in German to free themselves from the yoke of a decadent Papacy; and Montaigne in his cheeky Essays is already speaking in stereotyped terms of Frenchmen’s Gaulish ancestors.

Thus, from the fifteenth to the twentieth centuries, we observe the steady rise of national identity as more and more people were socialized in linguistically-discrete memetic networks: the printing press, mass literacy, newspapers, national schooling . . . The nation marks the entry of the masses into society and we are not surprised if war, by 1914, reaches a hysterical nationalistic pitch.

The nation had become everything by then. One’s family, one’s society, one’s state, one’s newspaper, one’s books, one’s school, one’s territory . . . everything was dominated by the national fact, working in harmony and reinforcing one another, dominating every facet of one’s existence. Thus, when a Frenchman crossed the border to Italy or landed in England, he could feel to be entering a really different world with wholly different rules. This is certainly no longer the case today.

The nation was an existential fact within which one lived and died, and potentially flourished and . . . transcended one’s individuality. Thus we cannot be surprised if so many great men invested their participation and sacrifice for their nation in existential terms. Hence, Charles de Gaulle felt France was “like a princess in the fairy tales or the madonna of the frescoes, fated for an eminent and exceptional destiny” while the Romanian Petre Țuțea – with the same exhilarating and empowering pathos – explained that “the Balkans are the ass of Europe.” Solzhenitsyn, Hitler, etc, etc.

Only religion and business escaped this rule. Yet religion often wrapped itself in the national flag and business had to adapt to local conditions.

Sociologically, the peak of the nation-state really was achieved in the postwar era: 1950s America, 1960s France. This was the moment in which our educational and other bureaucracies became ends in themselves, excuses for wasting time and distributing money. It was the time of television. This era saw the inception of globalism, which was adopted by elites, thus there was a French globalism, an American globalism, etc. There was as of yet no unified globalist class as such.

Today, people spend a greater and greater part of their daily life in front of screens. Notwithstanding the restrictions of copyright and national ecosystems (Iran, China, Russia), in the West Internet use is basically deterritorialized. I could be writing these lines from Paris, Dubai, or Timbuktu. An American in Paris can work in an English-speaking company, inform himself through American media, and basically live in an Anglo expat bubble. An Arabic immigrant can similarly live in his own Arabo-Islamic online sphere, wherever he happens to live, besides frequenting the local Saudi-funding Wahhabite mosque.

These screens enable deterritorialized work – and thus big companies, research institutes, prestigious – are increasingly detaching from their nations.

The proposed Spencerian Ethnostate, a kind of Transatlantic Roman Empire, seems outlandish today. However, once the Germans become as functionally Anglophone as the Dutch and the Nordics – which is perhaps a matter of only 20 years – there will certainly be no linguistic barriers to Occidental unity.

Why should “champagne” – quality bubbly wine – only be produced in the geographical region of Champagne? By what law would it be impossible to make good ramen outside of the territory of Japan?

Thus, we will inevitably see a steady denationalization of our societies, both from below through Third-World immigration, and from above through “Anglo-globalization.” The small, rootless international clique has given rise to a rather large and growing Expat Class. The chief problem is our effeminate lifestyle. People spend their entire amidst the omnipresent fakery of the “education” system, office make-work, and screens. It also means a pure and simple biological weakening – witness the decline in testosterone levels – as our comfortable lives make us less and less capable of bearing pain, discomfort, or sustained effort. This makes us unable to recognize painful truths – and lord knows how many truths are painful – let alone affirm them and live by them.

To deny these trends, which are in large part technologically determined, is simply wishful thinking.

We need Exᴘᴀᴛ Nᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟɪsᴍ!

 
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  1. Blubb says:

    And what the heck is expat nationalism?

    Also, I actually see the way that we can increasingly work from anywhere as a good thing. You can stay in your village with your family and friends, and still make a good salary.

  2. Western nations are disintegrating everywhere, their respective core ethnies losing ground to rapidly-expanding Hispanic, Asian, African, and Islamic settlements, notably in the large cities and, in the United States, across all the southernmost states from west to east.

    One can only imagine how the average Roman of the fourth century felt when Alaric and his Visigoths showed up and were showered with all sorts of bennies by the Emperor and the Senate to seemingly buy them off. Long story short, it was never enough, and Alaric and gang ultimately sacked Rome.

    • Replies: @David
  3. to combat the demon we must become gods there is no other option

    nordic is not good enough anymore

  4. from above through “Anglo-globalization.”

    I think you mean (((Anglo-globalization))). It started with the Bank of England and was taken over by the Federal Reserve. “Anglo” is the goat horns to distract from the real problem.

    Money lenders have always been globalists.

    • Agree: JamesinNM
    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @Jake
  5. Very good article.

    You wrote, “National identity is evident among the intellectuals as early as the Renaissance (if not earlier in some cases, as in the eleventh-century Song of Roland). Machiavelli’s notorious The Prince concludes with a rousing call to unite Italy and expel the (French and Spanish) barbarians; Luther exhorted the German nobility in German to free themselves from the yoke of a decadent Papacy; and Montaigne in his cheeky Essays is already speaking in stereotyped terms of Frenchmen’s Gaulish ancestors.”

    National identity goes much further back in history such as in ancient Greece and Rome although they did not have words that are equivalent to nation-state or ethno-state. However, they used words such as ethnos, phylla, genos and so on and were obsessed with genealogies and mythical ancestors (which often beared some element of truth). Some have even argued that Byzantium (more accurately, Romania) was actually the first ethno-state and in this case, the ethno-state of the Romans (Greek-speaking Christians).

    https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674986510

  6. Exactly. Smart, educated, wealthy and succesful people today feel no need for some “national identity”.
    This situation is nothing new. The aristocracy of old regime was as much globalized as the elite today. French and Russian nobles had much more common with each other than with “their” peasants.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
  7. @another anon

    Smart, educated, wealthy and succesful people today feel no need for some “national identity”

    They feel no need until they leave their segregated walled off community and see the enrichment and diversity that uneducated, poor and unsuccessful people live with up close

    You can convince a successful midwit that chemically castrating your son because he likes to play with dolls is the “noble” thing to do aswell, and indeed many have in the US and UK, does that mean the rest of the world should follow suit?

    • Replies: @another anon
  8. Why should “champagne” – quality bubbly wine – only be produced in the geographical region of Champagne?

    In the US, any sparkling wine can be and often is referred to as ‘champagne’, regardless of where it came from … much to the chagrin of the French.

    Thus, we will inevitably see a steady denationalization of our societies, both from below through Third-World immigration, and from above through “Anglo-globalization.”

    Nice try, Guillaume. But merely speaking a second language doesn’t really “denationalize” anyone. Only if English became the first language of your people would it stand a chance of denationalizing you–and even then, maybe not quite. Consider the case Ireland, where English has almost completely displace Irish, despite all bureaucratic attempts at keeping it alive. That notwithstanding, the Irish and the English still consider themselves to be quite distinct. The mass immigration of foreign races that cannot be assimilated is, of course, and entirely separate matter. Vide the case of Barack Obama, whom you mentioned.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  9. @Korenchkin

    They feel no need until they leave their segregated walled off community and see the enrichment and diversity that uneducated, poor and unsuccessful people live with up close

    Why should they? People with top education, fluent in several world languages, with skills that are in demand worldwide, with offshore bank accounts, stashes of bitcoin and several passports in their pockets have many more, much better options.

    You can convince a successful midwit that chemically castrating your son because he likes to play with dolls is the “noble” thing to do aswell,

    True, it is more noble to send your son to the army, to be blown up for someone else profits.

    and indeed many have in the US and UK, does that mean the rest of the world should follow suit?

    If you think that transgenderism is something reserved for the the rich, you are mistaken.
    Gofundme and other crowdfunding sites are full of broke and unsuccesful transgendered people begging for money for their gender transition.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    , @JamesinNM
  10. @Digital Samizdat

    An outside and somewhat distant, does not really see much difference between the Irish and English. They just seem like English people with a better sense of humour. Language largely determines ethnicity. If the Irish are really serious about being Irish, then they should ramp up efforts to learn Gaelic.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  11. @Blubb

    And what the heck is expat nationalism?

    I too am wondering. It could be interpreted a few different ways, so Durocher needs to explain what he means by it and how he expects it to benefit the pro-white cause.

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  12. @Blubb

    Of course, the vast majority of people in the USA and the world cannot, in fact, get a job enabling them to work online.

  13. @.aryan transhumanism

    And here in the real world, where most people will be worried about surviving increased violence, disorder, and disruption of food and medical supply chains — and the great majority will have neither means nor opportunity to buy technological or genetic services turning them into something more than human — what do you suggest?

  14. @Agathoklis

    Perhaps, but Learning Gaelic means little if they keep failing to have children and admit masses of people who will irrevocably change their culture, take away their political power, take their jobs and economic opportunities, and make it impossible to trust and freely safely associate even with each other Irishmen.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  15. @another anon

    Way to completely miss the point, midwit

  16. > I think we need to consider the basic facts of human life,
    > namely our psychology, which is more or less fixed, at
    > least in broad makeup

    What? Far from being more or less fixed, it has changed in a phenomenal way recently, i.e. within living memory. Consider these questions: among what previous civilised peoples was it believed that highly dissimilar foreigners were better than themselves? Or believed that a “woman” might be in possession of a penis? These are beliefs that have never been held before in human history and which, as recently as the 1950s, would have been considered insane.

    We are in utterly uncharted territory now. Analyses that appeal to history will not work here.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Quinsat
  17. @Robert Jenkinson

    We are in utterly uncharted territory now. Analyses that appeal to history will not work here.

    Maybe not specifically the “transgressive” transgenderism abroad just now, but certainly there are instances in history when sexuality was exploited, debased, deformed —
    Just off the top of my head:

    young boys were castrated to preserve their soprano voices

    young men were castrated to serve as guards for harems

    in Weimar, multiple forms of sexual deviance were practiced

    Maybe it’s just wishful thinking: I prefer to think we’re in a sine wave and will return, cyclically, to something more approaching the way nature intended male and female to interact and identify.

    It would be helpful if those of us more concerned with that reversion to the normal would be more outspoken about it; start by hammering the local school board.

    Or if you live in Virginia, withhold state taxes until the state legislature gets its head on straight:

    “A Window into Virginia’s Future: Bills Headed to the Governor’s Desk Kill Virginia as We Know It. ” Virginia Christian Alliance

    We the People are not powerless — who forces you to pay a cable company to pipe smut into your home?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @JUSA
  18. Matra says:

    I thought Expat Nationalism was living in a country you are not loyal to. Examples would be Ukrainians in Canada, Irish in USA, or Turks in Germany who put the interests of their ‘homeland’ ahead of the interests of the country they reside in. These Expat Nationalists usually have an unrealistic romantic view of the homeland, an exaggerated frozen in time hatred of said homeland’s historical enemies, and, unfortunately, no skin in the game. A very bad mixture.

    • Agree: Alfred, Redneck farmer
  19. Expat nationalism? As a base Honolulu haole do I qualify?

  20. (I can’t figure out how replies work here. This is a reply to SolontoCroesus’s comment 18.)

    > Maybe not specifically the “transgressive” transgenderism…
    > young boys … young men … in Weimar …

    Indeed, none of those are “transgressive” transgenderism, as you put it.

    > Maybe it’s just wishful thinking: I prefer to think we’re in a sine wave…

    Yes, it’s just wishful thinking. We have the doubtful privilege of living in interesting times, having witnessed the end of western civilisation. It isn’t coming back.

  21. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know if the main thesis of the article, that technology is inevitably driving this, is even true. I see the correlation, but I also see that other East Asian countries besides China are retaining their nationalisms.

    I think that some alt-right thinkers are making a mistake to ignore the black history of the white race. What is happening to us now is a result of the educated losing faith in nationalism, racialism, etc., due to evils done in their names in the past.

    Our elites are trying to create a World Peace scenario for moral reasons, and due to white guilt. Diversity is promoted due to its well-documented ability to reduce racism and ethnocentrism.

  22. ariadna says:

    Nationals of just about any country in Europe. who settle in another country become over about two generations nationals of their adopted country. They may still like the cuisine of the old country and visit the land of their ‘roots” but for all practical purposes they are loyal citizens, even devout patriots of their (new) country. Not so the jews: wherever they settle, even after hundreds of years, their loyalty remains steadfast first and foremost to the tribe. Where they were born and live they are “sayanim.”
    Would the ex-pat nationalists be a Goy version of the sayanim? And how would that be achieved?

    • Replies: @another anon
  23. @ariadna

    Would the ex-pat nationalists be a Goy version of the sayanim? And how would that be achieved?

    According to unz.com, the Jews own everything and control the world.
    Maybe they are doing something right?
    Maybe, instead of endless whining how they are oppressing you, you shall learn from them?

    • Replies: @melpol
    , @Anon
    , @Z-man
  24. Jeanne says:

    Excellent article, thank you!

    I don’t think technology is driving this. In Quebec the anglo elites ”killed” us french white quebecers through cultural genocide. (Cultural genocide was also the method the Anglos used to destroy indigenous peoples).

    – Essentially the Anglos dispossessed us of our lands, resources, medical/education systems through privatisation.

    – The Anglos assimilated us by imposing their engligh language which is very poor compared to french. They also imposed their “music” which is very poor, repetitive, and indigest.

    – The Anglos systematically bash french-speaking white quebecers, banish our folk and trad music, our religion, and they tax us for the CBC (state-owned media) to demonize and culpabilize us day after day because we refuse to take part in their wars and their orgy of weaponization and their genocide in Iraq, Libya, their crusades of SS in Ukraine, etc.

    – In brief, Quebec is dead. Je suis Québec mort ou vivant.

    Expat nationalists from France are welcomed.

    • Disagree: Matra
    • Replies: @anon
  25. @Anon

    our (((elites ))) couldnt give a shit about moral reasons they only want absolute power to slave us all for all the eternity ,thats their only motivation

    and if we dont wake up certainly will happen

  26. JL says:

    The term “expat nationalism” seems like something of a non-sequitur to the rest of the article. As others who have commented, I’m wondering what it is and how it’s relevant.

  27. JUSA says:
    @Blubb

    My question exactly, what the heck is expat nationalism?

    I am also hopeful that technology will reverse the trend of the agglomeration or hyper urbanization that we’ve been seeing, which has led to over congested cities in the coastal areas with their disastrous environmental degradation, along with desolate rural areas. Office workers will become more and more mobile; more will move into inland areas with much lower cost of living, and to be near extended family etc.

    Technology can also be much better deployed to reduce the need for immigration and foreign students. Foreign workers can work from their home countries without needing a work visa, and foreign students can learn online and get their diplomas from their home countries without ever having to set foot in the US. This would reduce overcrowding in Western countries and brain drain in poor countries, which has exacerbated inequality around the world.

    Covid-19 is changing people’s view on globalism. When this is all said and done people all over the world will be a lot less enamored with this stupid concept. Nationalism might just make another comeback.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @Anonymous
  28. Tor597 says:

    And why should the rest of the world tolerate shiftless white people invading their lands when they will not be loyal or give value to their host nations?

    Think white people in Mexico or Thailand.

    You might think, well of course these countries will have to let me in to bang hookers, get sloppy drunk, and lecture the natives on the proper way to live life. We let all kinds of brown people into our own country, why shouldn’t they return the favor?

    Of course, it doesn’t work like that.

    The west let mass immigration in because it suited their globalist interests. It had nothing to do with morality or helping other people out. The west’s model was to bomb and bankrupt the rest of the world and then invite them into your country for cheap labor.

    Other countries (like Mexico and Thailand) are under no obligation to reciprocate letting white people stay in their country. In fact, they would be stupid to do so.

    Maybe once the white trash get kicked out of these foreign lands, they can quit being such cowards and they can go home to fix their own country.

    ho are trying to hide out in other countries

  29. Frankie P says:

    A strong case could be made that in global terms, nationalism is actually prevailing and becoming more robust. Sure, the degenerate west is allowing itself to self destruct, but look at the growing economic strength of nations that have a strong, traditional sense of nation, people and civilization. China’s GDP will be double the size of America’s soon after mid century, and India will also surpass the US. Nations like Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Brazil will all soon replace western nations in top economies. These countries still have a sense of nationalism, culture and people.

  30. Quinsat says:
    @Robert Jenkinson

    Not entirely uncharted, methinks. We have a map of sorts: Universe 25.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  31. Wally says:
    @Tor597

    Oh yawn.

    The caravans always head north, not south. It is those fleeing ‘immigrants’ who are too “cowardly” to stay home & fix their own countries

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  32. @SolontoCroesus

    In the end numbers should count and many follies reduced to faintly remembered or acknowledged trivia. Transgenderism will horrify but soon bore. Compare the fact that a lot of worthy Australians want to promote Aboriginal rights, culture or whatever but they are only 2 or 3 per cent of the population and, despite high rates of incarceration not feared in the way African-Americans often are (no Second Amendment helps probably). So it is easy for attention to Aboriginal claims and aspirations to lapse.

  33. @Tor597

    I agree, but there is something to be said for living in countries where you won’t be vilified or imprisoned for being a nationalist and racialist as long as you don’t go against the nationalism and racialism of your host nation and race or actively engage in their politics. Unlike what happens in the West where the immigrants are allowed to continue being their own nationalists and racialists and engage in politics against the interests of the host nations and races.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  34. Dumbo says:

    The analysis is interesting, the solution less so. It is not clear what is “expat nationalism” nor how it would work. People living in countries other than their own. How is it different from globalization?

    • Replies: @Anon
  35. antibeast says:
    @Tor597

    I am afraid that’s also part and parcel of the globalist plan to import non-White immigrants from non-Western countries and export White retirees from Western countries. It’s a perfect “swap”: globalist elites get cheap Brown labor while kicking out old White farts. To accomplish this goal, they plan to cut Welfare Benefits for these old White farts, thus forcing them to retire outside of the Western World.

  36. America “the melting pot” was always a propaganda ploy straight out of the Protocols of Zion. Catholicism and Christianity in general have also turned into weaponized anti-white tools for the Zionists. E. Michael Jones has done much work exposing the yid plots to shatter the f0rmerly ethnic neighborhoods in American cities.

    “European” is not an ethnic group, Europe is composed of dozen of ethnic states. This is why America is so screwed, because all its European ethnicities have become adulterated and mongrelized. There is no point in Americans become ethnically nationalistic expat Americans. There are plenty of reasons for Americans who still have links to their old European homelands to migrate and just become expat Americans.

  37. Is the author a latecomer to his subject and surprisingly unfamiliar with such seminal ideas as David Goodhart’s coining of the distinction between Somewhere People and Anywhere People most of 20 years ago and revisited in his book “The Road to Somewhere” reviewed in The Guardian here:
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/22/the-road-to-somewhere-david-goodhart-populist-revolt-future-politics

    And excerpted here:
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/road-to-somewhere-populist-revolt-david-goodhart-somewhere-people-anywhere-people-brexit-trump-election/?

    There is also a surprising absence of discussion of the often both moral and formal economic arguments which were for freer trade with or without open borders and which in fact has led to hundreds of millions ceasing to be poor.

  38. @silviosilver

    It could be interpreted a few different ways, so Durocher needs to explain what he means by it and how he expects it to benefit the pro-white cause.

    He means we’re stuck living this way, so let’s pretend it’s a good thing. The usual WN rationalization. “Expatriatism” and nationalism are literally opposite things. It’s all right to make a virtue of necessity, but silly to pretend it’s all for the best.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  39. This “falling testosterone levels” obsession is really tiresome. Imagine everyone could afford to start juicing indefinitely — would everything magically revert back to the status quo of (insert preferred year or epoch)? is injecting HGH into your ass every few days really a political path, or is it just an admission of one’s insecurity? No one in the past cared this much about their level of testosterone.

    • Agree: Dumbo
    • Replies: @anon8383892
  40. From the Occidental Observer piece —

    Sometimes, essentially negative historical trends can, in dialectical fashion, rebound in unexpected ways and yield positive results.

    Here’s the problem with writers like this: they’ve marinated their brains in Hegel, Spengler and Heidegger for so long, they actually believe history is “dialectical”, a big chess game of endlessly oscillating ideological forces, i.e. Manichaeanism. If they come up with just the right ideological tagline to shift perspective, then everything is really ok and can work to white people’s advantage.

    Hate to say it but to a hammer everything looks like a nail. The Greg Johnson bookworm set believe everything turns on this sort of philosophical hocus-pocus because that’s all they’re good at in life.

    • Replies: @Jake
  41. melpol says:

    Positive mongrelization of the races is possible when people of equal economic status cohabitate. Both enjoy a materialistic lifestyle and enjoy similar food tastes. Sexual compatibility can be a problem with any racial group, but most find a workable solution. Negative mongrelization can be a problem which happens when poor and financially unequal races attempt to cohabitate. They blame their economic problems on racial differences. Poverty stricken whites and blacks who attempt to cohabitate find that when money problems enter the door love flies out the window. Violence usually erupts and the love affair becomes a disaster. Positive mongrelization is a beautiful experience, sharing the mall in the daytime and the bedroom at night is a prosperous and sexy lifestyle.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mefobills
    , @Larry Smith
  42. Jake says:

    The nation-state is on a path to imploding when it becomes truly imperialistic. When the nation-state begins acting as a centralized crime syndicate that intends to take over neighboring peoples, and then to take over those conquered peoples’ neighbors, forcing them to submit, acting to eradicate their languages and folk cultures, the nation-state sets in motion its own decadence and deserved death.

    When surviving nation-states bow to an empire that is erected upon cultural values that are antithetical to its history (such as France bowing to the Anglo-Zionist Empire) that nation-state has signed its death warrant.

  43. Jake says:
    @Marshall Lentini

    Germanic thought is always materialist and materialistic. And it always fails to discern the propensity for self-destructive evil. It is either a waste of time or itself necessary to the evil it thinks it combats.

  44. Jake says:
    @Curmudgeon

    You have it backwards: Anglo-Zionist requires both parts, which means that people focusing on the Jewish part are missing not merely at least half the problem but the half that is origin of the infection. If there is no English Reformation, which becomes thoroughly imbued with every aspect of Judaizing heresy, there can never have been the successful Puritan revolution, and therefore no deal between the first full WASPs and Jewish bankers.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  45. Skeptikal says:
    @Wally

    You don’t identify the photo.

    But if it is the “caravan” from Central America of a few years ago, the countries of origin have been “fixed” and not in a very nice way.

    By American meddling and coups and constant political intervention, making life intolerable for the locals. Viz. Honduras coup engineered by Hillary’s state dept. Oh, BTW, the same State Department that originated the Benghazi madness. And the attacks on Libya and Syria, resulting in political, economic, and humanitarian crises in those countries. In the case of Libya, the destruction of that country opened the door to the migrant crisis in the Med and Italy.

    So why don’t your save your “Oh, yawn” for your own mirror.

    • LOL: Wally
    • Replies: @Wally
  46. onebornfree says: • Website

    @ G. Durocher: Unless I had a “lost in translation” moment, you contradict yourself.

    You say: ” The state shows no signs of decline and indeed has become all-encompassing and outright obese.”

    And yet, a sentence or two later you say :”Rather, we should reflect on why the nation-state arose and why it is declining.”

    So which is it- or am I missing something?

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
    , @Jake
  47. @JUSA

    Covid-19 is changing people’s view on globalism. When this is all said and done people all over the world will be a lot less enamored with this stupid concept. Nationalism might just make another comeback.

    Or not, a different kind of globalism might be considered. Not globalism for the power nuclei, and herding ideas, technologies and systemics only. Globalism as in global solutions for speed of transactions, volume of transactions, both of physical nature and of financial nature, global currency, decentralized decision centers, but a global world of ideas, and execution.

    It would or not solve migration issues, population stimuli, certainly ecological matters. Who cares, we all want to maximize our own reductionist comfort zones. In the end it is human nature that is the limiting factor to obvious policies that only seem contradictory.

  48. Carax says:

    1. And meanwhile ignore the hordes of Third World invaders because o gee that’s just the way we have to accept this “progress” that’s going to make us better people. Bullocks.

    2. ” Conditions have dramatically changed since the Middle Ages, notably in Europe, with the steady spread of literacy … ” What type of “literacy” is he talking about? The Western education systems are dumbing down the populations. History is no longer properly taught. Europeans, like their American counterparts, are more sick and more stupid than ever before.

  49. Biff says:
    @Tor597

    Maybe once the white trash get kicked out of these foreign lands, they can quit being such cowards and they can go home to fix their own country.

    their own country.

    I don’t “have” or “own” a country. If anything, it “has” or “owns” me, and it wants a piece of my production – it’s got my name with a number and it needs money. Lots of money! Going back to the shithole U.S. to feed the war machine isn’t gonna fix a god-damned thing!

    • Replies: @Tor597
  50. @RadicalCenter

    Quality populations, at certainly less then one third of the current global population. Man cannot be the issue and the cause in itself. Democracy as in all generations, including the future generations that can be anticipated. In all, an enlargement of human context into universal and time, many dimensional bulbs.

    Reducing and emotionalizing the human context is of no help.

  51. Er says:

    Actually, Russian Szampan is an official appellation outside France. Anyway, the origin specs of Champagne are a matter of branding, not nationalism, since most French vineyards can’t produce it either.

  52. Oh, Ganelon! Why must you adduce Ashoka and La Chanson de Roland to the nincompoop who doesn’t know shit from shinola?

  53. What is the general definition of expat nationalization ? I have not a clue. It must be like those fashionable phrases that suddenly spring up and then disappear like:
    -Luther has some AWESOME suits
    -His dog is totally AMAZING
    -He is an INSECURE NARCISSIST
    -She is TOTALLY COOL

    To me it is similar to phrases and statements that sound important, sophisticated, elegant but which upon some thought (which the vulgar rabble seem incapable of these days) are meaningless nonsense.

    It is a paradox that 500 years ago, when it took 18 months for a letter to travel from Europe to the New World and another 18 months for a reply (if it ever arrived) the greatest empires were built. These days correspondence is within seconds, travel mere hours and yet we seem more backward than ever.
    Before social media and emails, letters were thoughtful, carefully written, conveyed a meaningful message and may have enclosed a photo that could not be replaced.

    These days the majority of emails are unnecessary, silly, trashy and photos abound. Every dickhead looking for attention must post where he/she was, with whom and the breakfast they are about to eat. “Did you see this video ? Its really funny, this cat can take a dump and flush the toilet!”

    Everyone has their eyes glued to a cell phone such that they cannot see where they are going either physically or mentally either at that moment or in their life. They spend their entire day reading and writing shit. It just seems to be getting worse. At the cell phone store to pay my bill I witnessed a girl 12/13 screaming at her mother because she would not buy the $1500 phone and the $120 a month package. While the clerk and I gaped in disbelief she called her mother a “fucking bitch”. To prove she was not Mom stumped up the old credit card and ID and initiated the transaction. Such is the world we have moved to and are moving in.

    There was a time when an Englishman was an Englishman, A Spaniard was a Spaniard and so on each man proud of his heritage and willing to build, sacrifice and die for the country of his birth or the country that adopted him Now it seems no-one is nobody and all this stuff is mushy hooey.

    Expat nationalization could mean different things to different people if indeed it means anything at all. To me, it means being an expat and I am the nation. I am an advocate of a mobile lifestyle. Few possessions, a nest egg, an ability to earn anywhere in the world and thus to be able to hop from country to country (or different areas in a particular country) living here and there as the situation or mood demands. A fellow should be able to quickly pack a spare shirt, a pair of socks and other essentials and check out !

    These days being tied down to and devoted to any one country or place is folly. I am a nationalistic expat looking out for number #1 (ONE) and my loved ones. Given the way things are rocking and rolling having the wherewithal to be an expat anywhere in the country or anywhere in the world at any time with a moments notice is a valuable and highly prized ability and one well worth working on and cultivating.

    I like it when Hollywood mimicks real life. In the movie “Heat” Robert Deniro says there should be nothing in your life that you cannot walk away from in seconds. Good advice for sure for any nationalistic expat or expat nationalization.

    • Agree: PetrOldSack
    • Replies: @Jake
  54. Anonymous[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blubb

    I thought it was pretty obvious. An expat nationalist is an expat who clings strongly to their national identity despite living in a foreign land. Given that countries are losing their national identity at such a rapid rate, expat nationalism can even allow the national identity to be carried on more faithfully as expats are often expected by locals to comply with outdated ideas of what the expats’ culture is.

  55. melpol says:
    @another anon

    Learning from the Jews means developing their intuitions and ESP. Jews can even smell a good deal by sniffing it with their enlarged nose. Jewish CEOs use their GUT FEELINGS to buy or sell billion dollar corporations. Many Jews are Futuristic and can prophesize financial outcomes. Most of these traits were evolved from years of persecution. It is doubtful that other can compete with Jewish magic.

  56. @onebornfree

    No contradiction there. The state as the total apparatus of control is stronger than ever; while the nation-state as a reflection of the people who gave rise to it, serving its interests on the rare occasions which it did, is long gone.

  57. Jake says:
    @onebornfree

    ‘The state’ and ‘nation-state’ are not synonyms. The USSR was a State, but it was not a nation-state. The US is not a nation-state, but its State is the moist powerful in the world.

  58. Tor597 says:
    @Biff

    It’s not any other countries problem.

    If you don’t have or own a country, you should get to work on getting it back.

  59. Tor597 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You are only looking at this from your own perspective. What does Mexico or Thailand get out of this besides nothing?

    Also, you assume that these expats are being model citizens who are being respectful of their host nation which they are obviously not.

    Most expats to Thailand or Mexico do drugs, where around, and place themselves into a caste system with white people at top and the natives at the bottom.

    People only tolerate it because America is wealthy and natives fear cracking down to hard on gringos. But that will not be forever.

  60. Jake says:
    @The Grim Joker

    “Expat nationalization could mean different things to different people if indeed it means anything at all. To me, it means being an expat and I am the nation. I am an advocate of a mobile lifestyle. Few possessions, a nest egg, an ability to earn anywhere in the world and thus to be able to hop from country to country (or different areas in a particular country) living here and there as the situation or mood demands. A fellow should be able to quickly pack a spare shirt, a pair of socks and other essentials and check out !”

    Sounds like something all kinds of Jews would say. It means being placeless, which means being at least 50% rootless. It means being self-absorbed, selfish.

    When your country is lost to decadence, you may have to move. But you will, if your move is worth making, need to make a serious examination of the culture of your nation, because you need to know why it destroyed itself, why its Elites despised the masses of its core population. To reproduce any part of that is to reproduce self-destruction. It is better to commit suicide now than to reproduce the culture that birthed national suicide. That is making the curse a Sisyphean effort.

    The fact is that most whites today need to face the fact that the particular national culture they hoped to save is poison and should be allowed to die. That means they must embrace better culture. As this is a spiritual war, any national or ethnic or regional culture that is not focused on recreating Christendom is at best a waste of time.

  61. Anon[808] • Disclaimer says:
    @another anon

    According to unz.com, the Jews own everything and control the world.
    Maybe they are doing something right?
    Maybe, instead of endless whining how they are oppressing you, you shall learn from them?

    Is that an admission?

    If so, that would be interesting. Because Jewish survival depends on denying what you state.

    As “what they are doing right” (“right” = according to you) depends on the constant neutering of the ability of the people, which Jews live among, exploit, and oppress, to forcefully counteract the Jews.

    Which takes an enormous amount of effort that never lasts.

    Perhaps “doing something right” is better redefined as success on a group’s own merits as a nation state.

    Rather than as a people who feel that world domination is worth the destruction of all others while constantly trying, and often failing, to stay one step ahead of the fatal wrath of one’s neighbor.

    If “doing something right” is living as the group archetype of the Biblical Cain, then I would suggest that both the moral and practical requirements of what it is to be human demand that a reassessment of success parameters is in order.

  62. anarchyst says:

    There used to be a time when just about ANY immigrant who set upon the shores of America was not only grateful, but willing to shed his “old world” ways and support his adopted country.

    He might have not known the language, and found some American customs and practices “strange”, but he fully embraced the idea that he could be an AMERICAN.

    [MORE]

    He not only embraced the American ideal, but made damn sure that his children fully appreciated the land in which they were born.

    Contrast that to today’s immigrant, who is only concerned about one thing–American dollars. Today’s immigrants care not about the founding principles of this country, the Constitutional principles in which our rights are endowed by our Creator, that our “rights” are not granted by government, and that the most important thing about being an American is the sense of freedom that he doesn’t want for himself or his offspring.

    Today’s immigrant brings his “old-world” customs and squabbles here, demanding that native-born Americans kowtow to him and change THEIR ways to accommodate his “old-world” ways.

    Their children are not encouraged to become Americans and fully assimilate, but are required to maintain their “old-world” customs and ways, even if they run counter to American customs and mores.

    These old-world customs and ways quite often are criminal in nature, and do nothing to endear them to native-born Americans. They just do not want to assimilate. In fact, they DEMAND that us native-born Americans change “our ways” to accommodate them.

    Many immigrants, once here, will bring their elderly relatives here to sponge off the Social Security system, even though they have not paid a penny into the system.

    Welfare and social services scams are common. Those immigrants who run retail businesses receive special “loans” from the federal government–loans not available to native-born Americans.

    Russian (jew) immigrants are expert at running Medicare scams. Middle eastern types run welfare “bridge card (EBT)” scams.

    Jews are even more brazen. They have whole jewish communities that openly flout “civil-rights” and “anti-discrimination” laws with impunity. These communities will not allow anyone not of jewish persuasion to buy real-estate or attend the so-called “public schools”.

    You see, these communities are “jews-only”. In addition, they are massive users of the social welfare system, out of proportion of their numbers. They may be financially successful, but are expert at hiding their income so they can receive welfare and social services “benefits”. Gaming the system, indeed…

    Foreign-owned retail businesses run an EBT card scam in which they pay EBT recipients 50-cents cash on the dollar. When they are “caught”, they feign “language difficulties”, and are quite often given a “slap on the wrist” and told not to do it again.

    In Michigan, the social services system allows muslims to claim up to four “wives” as dependents–one “wife” and three “relatives”.

    Native born white Americans who need help are quite often refused, while immigrants waltz in and get all kinds of “help”.

    Today’s immigrants do not deserve to be here and should go back to where they came from.

  63. Anon[154] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I think that some alt-right thinkers are making a mistake to ignore the black history of the white race.

    What “Black history” of the White race is that?

    That of the Jewish slavers who just as easily traded (and trade) Slavic women to Arabs, Turks, and themselves as they did Blacks?

    That of the top economic percentile of Whites that closer identifies with Jews than their own lower classes?

    Is the Lamb the eternal scapegoat for his murderer, and if so then when will his wrath be unleashed and under what circumstances?

    What is happening to us now is a result of the educated losing faith in nationalism, racialism, etc., due to evils done in their names in the past.

    That is false. What is happening to us now is due to Jewish political control / supremacy and religious belief in the genocidal Apocalypse by both the Jews and our top out of sight “leadership”.

    Our elites are trying to create a World Peace scenario for moral reasons, and due to white guilt.

    That is false. See above.

    Diversity is promoted due to its well-documented ability to reduce racism and ethnocentrism.

    Where are the outcomes you cite “well documented”?

    The research concludes that diversity increases social isolation. Which, in turn, is a reliable proxy for increased community-wide racism.

    The most racially liberal people tend to live in the least diverse neighborhoods. Nothing cuts through propaganda and creates racists like diversity.

    What diversity does is it eliminates the ability of the populace to effectively build political power and organize against their rulers and toward their own self determination. That’s why it is pushed.

    When my neighbor’s behaviors, values, racially determined brain architecture, racial phenotype, and perceived political interests differ from my own then it is maximally difficult to form a cooperative political or social relationship with him.

    • Agree: PetrOldSack
    • Replies: @Anon
  64. Wally says:
    @Skeptikal

    Here you go, take your pick and “identify”:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=immigrant+caravans&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

    Coups? LOL Proof? None.

    Well, these less than bright “immigrants” say what they are coached to say, but given the billions of US dollars given to them and then saying there is a “crisis” is laughable.
    The only “crisis” is their own. low IQ ineptitude.

    You recite leftist talking points, but prove nothing.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  65. David says:
    @The Alarmist

    Minutes before I read your comment, I read in Peter Brown’s Augustine of Hippo that Ambrose as Bishop of Milan in 386 was able to leverage the tension between native Romans and their foreign occupiers to retain possession of a church the court of Valintinan was attempting to seize.

    [Valentinian’s] court was isolated in Milan: it was full of suspect foreigners, Goths, Arian heretics, tolerators of pagans… the Emperor’s mother, Justina, had ordered Ambrose to surrender a church for use by the Arian members of the court… With studied deference, he flatly refused… It became an issue of ‘court’ against ‘city’, with Abrose making little effort to check the hatred of the Milanese for their Gothic garrison… as Gothic troops surrounded the basilica in which Ambrose stood with his congregation, it seemed as if a general massacre might ensue. But the court lost its nerve…

  66. Immigration is WAR – “Immigration has always been war. Whether it was the Mongols migrating to India, the Germans migrating to Italy, the Goths migrating to Byzantium, the Normans migrating to England, the Europeans migrating to the Americas, the Japanese migrating to China, the Germans migrating to Eastern Europe, or the Jews migrating to Canaan, the result has always been military occupation, followed by the large-scale slaughter and suppression of the native population.

    And because immigration is war, open borders is surrender.”

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/03/immigration-is-war.html

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  67. SafeNow says:

    As a deplorable living in the U.S. (California) I am an expat. I am no longer living in my former country. Send not to know for whom “expat nationalism” tolls…

  68. Anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The research is generally that if you grow up around diversity from a young age, you are more likely to support diversity, liberalism, immigration, etc., and less likely to be racist.

    But if you grow up not around diversity (or not around certain races or religions) and then are thrust into diversity (usually due to demographic change happening under your feet), you backlash hard, and are more likely to support conservatism.

    The goal of the establishment is to sprinkle diversity everywhere so that everyone accepts World Without Borders.

    You can read all of this in Eric Kaufman’s book on the topics, the best response to the alt-right yet.

    And your view of Js is silly. They basically just do what all minorities do.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  69. @Marshall Lentini

    He means we’re stuck living this way, so let’s pretend it’s a good thing.

    I don’t get the sense that that’s what he’s saying, and in any case I’d prefer to hear it from him rather than from you. No offense, but you’re perfectly predictable – we’re doomed, pack it up, all go home, etc. I know you’re bummed when I call this ‘defeatism,’ but really, it takes no special skill or conceptual insight to speak this way. It’s child’s play to prophesy failure.

    No one in the past cared this much about their level of testosterone.

    No one in the past cared much about their triglyceride level either. It doesn’t mean it was a non-factor.

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  70. @Crush Limbraw

    And because immigration is war, open borders is surrender.”

    To a certain extend still true, the masses and reductionist psychology demand the concept. As for middle-classes (cognitive and financial) and the elites, the territorial divides have lesser meaning, make lesser emotional sense. A macbook toting “web blogger-consultant-influencer” exchanges and identifies only with another cognitive dwarf regardless of nation, indifferent to being on the same territory, ethnicity, religion, since these divides are mostly oblivious to his reality. This is different from historical definitions. Not the only divide that has changed meaning.

    In short, there is no historical model that still holds much value as to a blueprint of a meaningful future for all of humanity, part of humanity, ethnic groups, cultures, religions, any groups and sub-groups. Even Jewish cohesion, based on supreme thrift (an amazing psychological glue) has run into trouble.

  71. @Anon

    The research is generally that if you grow up around diversity from a young age, you are more likely to support diversity, liberalism, immigration, etc., and less likely to be racist.

    Which is why southerners have long been known as the least prejudiced people in America.

    What “the research” really shows is that there’s no such thing as an anti-white whopper too absurd for a Jew to tell it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  72. @silviosilver

    , it takes no special skill or conceptual insight to speak this way

    Totally agree, which is why I’m not surprised when actually talented writers like Durocher end up in the usual place.

    And yes, it’s exactly what he’s saying, and no, he probably won’t admit that.

    It doesn’t mean it was a non-factor.

    Which doesn’t mean disaffected white guys aren’t obsessed and overestimating its relevance.

  73. Anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    Racism continued in the South because a shockingly large percentage of Southerners before maybe Gen X or maybe even Millennials grew up in white flight towns. Into the present, Southerners are continuing to white flight into suburbs and create charter schools and religious schools, but the trend is school integration. Millennial southerners grew up in very diverse schools, by national standards. They also are not that conservative.

    Non-Southerners are pushed to liberalism (through a different phenomenon) by media which presents them horrors of Southern racism. They look and say “I am not going to be bad like them.” It is the same with N Europeans. Southerners do not necessarily respond the same way to the media because it is about them. The key to this “us-them” distinction between goodwhites in Europe and non-Southern USA here is identitarian split, which is possible due to geographical distance.

    Diversity is not the ONLY thing that makes a person liberal. It just can drive it if you grow up in diversity.

  74. JUSA says:
    @Anon

    Our elites are trying to create a World Peace scenario for moral reasons, and due to white guilt. Diversity is promoted due to its well-documented ability to reduce racism and ethnocentrism.

    Our (((elites))) are the ones who try to hammer white guilt into gentile whites to benefit themselves. Their reasons are completely self-interested. There is nothing moral about what they are doing.

    There is no “well-documented” ability for diversity to reduce racism and ethnocentrism. In fact, the opposite is true — the more diverse a society is, the more racist and ethnocentric it becomes, just look at Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, South Africa, USA.

    As Robert Putnam pointed out in his book Bowling Alone, diversity decreases social cohesion by increasing distrust between groups. Immigration must be small in number to facilitate assimilation. When immigration is done in large numbers as it currently is to the West, we will only end up with more self-segregation and more distrust between groups, which is why the country is now being torn apart. The same people who promote “diversity” makes *everything* about race. Our (((elites))) want this because, once again, it benefits them: more customers, more cheap labor, more votes, and “safer” for them when they are no longer the only out group. Divide and conquer.

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @S
  75. JUSA says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    in Weimar, multiple forms of sexual deviance were practiced

    Weimer Republic is entirely Jew run.

    There is a high correlation between Jews and sexual deviance, from homosexuality to all manners of sexual perversion and infidelity. It’s why Hollywood, the media, academia and the “modern art” world are such cesspits, all professions dominated by Jews. I suspect a high percentage of homosexuals are Jews, and Jewish homos love black men, because they are the uber masculine tops.

    Jewish pedophiles corrupted generations of gentile whites by luring them into the gay lifestyle since a young age. Now that they control education, they are doing this through our school curriculum. CA is now forcing children as young as Kindergarten to learn about homosexuality and transgenderism, with a completely one-sided curriculum that tells children being gay and transgender depends entirely on how you feel. The whole goal is to gradually lower the age of consent to legalize pedophilia. WA is in the process of and close to approving a similar curriculum. Both curricula pushed by Jewish lawmakers.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  76. utu says:

    Expatism is an extreme manifestation of western atomized individualism and as such is inconsequential to countries and cultures they inhabit and to countries they left. Mostly young people in the pre-productive phase or old people in the post-productive phase. Their cultural impact is nil.

  77. @Marshall Lentini

    Injecting testosterone or HGH or whatever simply reduces your endogenous ability to produce these substances, so it’s not really an option — I conjecture there is a deep almost karmic price to pay for this form of supplementation. Perhaps its sounds very woowoo to some people, but all of these endocrine chemicals have the deepest of spiritual correlates; pain is the stimulant of the genesis of honor, everyone knows this at some level.
    No one in the past cared about their level of testosterone ? Perhaps not literally as the substance had yet to be isolated and named, but generally man would refuse to be castrated in any previous era.
    Is it an obsession to be concerned with castration? Are you a paid info-warrior, or perhaps useful idiot?
    Castration along with stupidification/lobotomy is the essence of the “boot stomping on the human face forever”. This is indeed the policy of the demonic hyper-‘elites’ towards their human cattle. What it reveals is their profound weakness, insecurity.
    Imagine being so insecure you need to castrate and lobotomize all your potential rivals. These are your overlords, ff-sake.

  78. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @JUSA

    Depends on how hard Covid-19 eventually hits. Anti-Chinese sentiment is on the rise worldwide:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-51722686

    China’s insistence on “not closing borders” has now caused this virus to spread far and wide, first to countries that did not stop their passengers from coming in like Europe and Iran, and now to all countries from these countries. China’s image and globalization in general have taken a huge hit. Anti-Chinese and anti-globalism sentiments are on the rise, and depending on how hard this virus hits the West, it could boil over. Airlines are already reeling from cancellations. People who used to brag about international travels are now being hated for spreading this virus everywhere.

    The only good thing that could come out of this fiasco is a retrenchment of globalization, and a return to national borders and ethnocentrism. Globalists have run out of their luck.

  79. Z-man says:
    @another anon

    Ha! It’s a rigged system. They, the ‘Chosen Ones’, get all the assistance they need from their international bankster brethren. Some fail even then which goes to prove that even the international Shylocks can’t save the dumbest of their own tribe. But they have a leg up on the rest of us. A rigged system. A pox on them.

    • Replies: @another anon
  80. Mefobills says:

    Nation States in the West are dissolving due to MONEY. Malformed money system are designed to extract usury for the (((International))).

    Capital as money wants to go anywhere to make gains.

    Capital as money wants to import labor to make gains.

    Today’s money is private corporation created … and these corporations are international.

    Private bank, or stock owned corporations, have fealty to their owners, and their stock owners can live anywhere.

    Private bank credit is created at debt, and the debt instruments are on-sold into markets – and the markets are international. For example, Mortgage backed securities derived from American Housing Bubble were on-sold to Germany. Our (((freinds))) at Goldman Sachs called the German’s muppets. Trusting German people, as usual, got screwed by the tribe.

    The U.S. Republic is instructional to the corrosive effect of this mis-identification of money, and making money our god. (Thanks Jews).

    1) Founders make the country a Republic, not a democracy.
    2) The House is popularly elected, and the population who elects house members are white christian men, who are landowners. No women can vote. There is no universal suffrage voting, so the word “populism” did not have the same meaning then, as today.
    3) Senators were sent by their state legislatures. Ergo, Senators represented the base – the state legislature. Senators post 17’th ammendment are popularly elected, and hence they represent their constituents. They represent their donors, or the monied and self interested class that funded their operations.

    Note in all cases, it is false identification of what money and hence capital is. Further it is this notion that democracy is some sort of panacea, when in reality democracy is a terrible form of government – as the founders knew.

    The line of causality to destruction of nationalism can be pinned on the (((international usurers))) who always work to undermine a polity and a cohesive nation state. The usurers especially want international money and law that redounds to benefit their class, so they can escape to bolt holes after they have destroyed their hosts.

    What is especially galling is that they extract usury from the population to run their schemes. In effect a people are paying for their own dispossession.

    We are the cow who is begin milked to pay for our trip to the abattoir, while being led by a Judas goat.

    Fixing the money system is a simple law change, as money’s true nature is law.

    And to make it clear, all the events that undermined America where propelled from behind the scenes by the ((usual suspects)) using their ill gotten gains to get their way.

    https://sovereignmoney.site/

  81. JamesinNM says:
    @another anon

    Matthew 10:28 – “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Losing sight of the reality that serving the wrong master for the infinitesimally short life on earth jeopardizes your infinite destiny. In the limit as time approaches infinity, the length of one’s life on earth approaches zero. Where is your treasure? What is it all about Alfie?

  82. globalism/universalism for the elites, and nationalism/ patriotism for the unwashed mass. always the case, throughout history. the way for the parasitic “elites” to divide and rule their slaves. notthing that just happens “naturally” but a tried and proven trick by the depraved parasites.

  83. Mefobills says:
    @Jake

    Judaizers were funded by stock market capital out of Amsterdam.

    The line of causality: Sephardi Jews are kicked out of Spain for the usual reasons. They go to Holland in 1492 and then maneuver their way into the stock market. There are over 700 unlicensed Sephardi Jews in Amsterdamn’s stock market. Ashkenazim Jews follow their brothers to Amsterdam post 1492.

    Unknown to most historians our Jewish freinds also lost the East/West Mechanism of taking rents on metal money to the Portuguese in 1469. Vasco De Gama discovered the southern route, so overland Haibaru caravaneers were no longer plying their hidden trade of silver/gold metal movement. This is why Portugal got so rich so quick.

    Our (((freinds))) have always used usury and ill-gotten gains, it is a the crime family business.

    These events were crises for our Jewish friends as they lost their former schemes, and they responded by being very clever and inventing gets, puts, forward contracts and a lot of what we in the west use today. Of course, they manipulated events to take gains. One event would be Tulip Mania in 1637, which drained the Dutch citizenry toward the first “stock owners,” and I will give you one guess who that was.

    This stock market capital was the base for funding Judaizer heresies, which were promoted into existence by money powered Jews. Bibles were printed at much expense by this capital, in what was a fore-runner for today’s Scofield Judaizer bible. Our (((friends))) presented themselves as gods special people in their bible, to then be allowed to return to England.

    Entry into England was maneuvered as part of this heretical movement, which included full spectrum warfare along religious lines, and bribery, and giving out usurious loans to suckers in English government. This then finally culminates in the bank of england formation by 1694, and our (((friends))) then hop to a new host.

    You are right in that Anglo-Zionism requires both parts. But, it is important to get cause and effect correct. Anglo-Zionism would never had occurred without the Jew. In those days, the English were operating with “kings money” which was Talley sticks. This was a very beneficial form of money which worked well for the English people.

    The Anglo-Zionist construct has now spread worldwide, and hence globo-homo.

  84. It is good to keep in mind that the nation-state as we know it has no long history.

    It is largely a creation of the 19th century. Many of the most familiar nations in Europe, for example, were created in that period – as Germany or Italy.

    For most of history, we have had empires and kingdoms, large entities incorporating many kinds of people, such as the Austro-Hungarian Empire or the Holy Roman Empire.

    For a while, extreme nationalists demanded that a given nation-state was for people of a certain ethnic identity, speaking a certain language, maybe even having a certain look and religion. This perhaps reflected lingering attitudes and hostilities from having rebelled against an old declining multi-national imperial group.

    That notion, taken to its extreme, assisted ultimately in the birth of monstrosities such as Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

    For the most part, the advanced world has moved well beyond that narrow and dangerous concept.

    Israel, of course, is one of the last in the advanced world we hear still talking that way, which is a source of concern for all liberal-minded people.

    The United States right now is something of an exception. There are unquestionably fascist tones in America’s contemporary political rhetoric. It is really odd when you think about it, the country being based on immigration and having been a “melting pot.”

    But it has long been an undercurrent in America. The Nazi Bund was a pretty large movement in America, for example. The great journalist and writer, William L. Shirer, said once that he thought America might be the first country to go fascist voluntarily. Of course, organizations like the Klu Klux Klan and various extreme militia groups have long histories. As do fraternal organizations whose membership requires being a descendant from some early group.

    Just not that many years ago, a Spanish-speaking person did a translation of America’s national anthem, and a recording of it became popular. Instead of being proud about it, certain groups of Americans became furious. There were ugly words hurled around. Even a descendent of Francis Scott Key, the man who wrote the “poem” in 1814 that would provide the words of the anthem, got quite huffy about anyone daring to sing it in Spanish. Ironically, as few Americans realize, the music to the anthem came from an old English drinking song.

    America is a big ship, and any big turns take a while to make. It is not only a big ship, but one whose controls are difficult to operate. It tends to do only ‘full steam ahead.”

    America also has had a good streak of arrogance and self-importance since its heydays of the 1950s when it literally was king of the planet. Its assumption of what President Putin rightly calls “exceptionalism” does fit nicely with attitudes around extreme patriotism and xenophobia.

    I think the conflict between Americans with fascist tones in their speech and others is not only just one more division in a country which has always been divided, in one way or another from its very beginning, but it reflects difference in ancestry of the population, as Northern Europeans versus Southern Europeans or Latins.

    There can be no question that Trump represents those people. They make up a large part of his political base because he feeds them what they want to hear, often barely disguised hatreds and contempt for foreigners and for Americans who look different. Migrants of all kinds. Muslims. Hispanics. “Shithole countries” (his exact words) in general.

    As far as talk of globalism goes, it is a very confused subject, the word almost taking on different meanings with different speakers.

    Here are some fundamental realities that will determine the future of “globalism.”

    The growth of international trade has been an immense benefit for many decades. The United States’ golden days of the postwar period were the result of it being a great supplier of goods to all corners of the earth. It was the only undamaged major nation, and it had invested hugely for war production.

    As other nations recovered and changed and made brand new investments, the United States just naturally lost its special place. It also was encumbered by its own myths about itself. When its uniquely blessed period of opportunity in the world began to fade, those myths only dragged on its ability to adjust and re-invest and compete in a changing world. Americans at all levels of society really did believe they were the best at what they did.

    I think Japan’s re-emergence was the first great shock to the American ego, but there have been others since, and the overwhelmingly big one has been the miraculous rise of China, something in fact, given China’s remarkable history, which should have been predictable. But you just don’t think clearly when you believe yourself indispensable to the world.

    So, today, America is reduced to dishonest and dangerous tactics of every description to “re-claim” what it foolishly believes is its and its alone, the right to be number one in almost everything. Clearly, only a kind of religious or mystical belief could engender such an expectation. Never mind about getting down to hard work and investing to be more competitive, investing in everything from better schools to national infrastructure. And better government, too. No, we’re Americans, we’re entitled.

    Large trading blocs, like the EU and others, are powerful mechanisms for increased prosperity. They may have their temporary ups and downs, but they are not going away simply because the basic economic principles underlying them are real and powerful.

    Advances in technology will only continue to make international trade easier and less costly, and they will do so at an increasing rate of change.

    With growing international trade, there is a growing need for international organizations to support, protect, and govern with agreed rules. That, too, is not going away, despite the bellowing of people like Trump. Such organizations are suffering right now, but they will return with strength simply because they are genuinely needed.

    Every bit of trade destroyed, as with Trump’s illegal sanctions and arbitrary tariffs and threats, makes the world a poorer place than it need be. That’s basic economic science. Those who argue with scientific principles are only howling and spitting against the wind. They will not be able to sustain their destructive effort for too long, and for that we should all be glad.

    As far population and migration go, every advanced country has arrived at a point where births minus deaths cannot sustain population. This is a naturally occurring phenomenon called demographic transition. From that point, only in-migration can sustain or increase population. With absolutely no in-migration, such a nation would actually see its population shrinking, and with no end to it.

    The average number of live births a woman is expected to have over her reproductive life in any given society is called the fertility rate.

    Advanced countries today have fertility rates on the order of 1.5 or so. Without in-migration, a fertility rate of 2.1 is required just to sustain a population, but you will not find that in any advanced nation. There are many reasons for that, including, importantly, young modern women pursuing rewarding careers.

    So, in-migration must be a part of every healthy society in the future, and this necessarily means different kinds of people arriving on your shores.

    That, too, is not something new. In the distant past, it took the form of mass migrations and conquests and was not driven by demographic change. In an old familiar society like Britain, one whose people have an image we all enjoy and assume to be enduring, we actually have a history of Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Norman French, and others creating the hybrid people we know.

    Today, further change is underway in Britain as many people from former parts of the British Empire have established themselves there. And more migrants still will be needed since Britain’s fertility rate is too low to replace its population.

    There’s just no avoiding the fact that in all traditional established states the future is going to look and sound different than what we have been used to.

    • Troll: John Regan
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @silviosilver
  85. Mefobills says:
    @John Chuckman

    That notion, taken to its extreme, assisted ultimately in the birth of monstrosities such as Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

    If you could time travel, and go back to Fascist Italy or NSDAP Germany, and then ask the average people questions like:

    1) Do you enjoy living here in Italy with Mussolini fascism or
    2) Are you happy with NSDAP national socialism?

    What do you think the answers would be?

    Remember, victors write history and history is narrative. Narrative then occupies our brain space and we take it as fact unless it is challenged.

  86. Cyrano says:

    I think that what this article is trying to say is that you can become an expat without ever leaving your country – instead your country is going to leave you – high and dry, and you don’t have to do anything to make this wonderful “liberal” idea become reality, just sit back and enjoy the show.

    I think that the western elites should be applauded for wanting to share the experience of having no country with the great unwashed. Whereas they – in their degeneracy – feel that money can overcome such narrow-minded concept as country, and all it takes is just to hop on a plane with suitcases full of money and any country will love to have you and you can call yours, for the great unwashed having no country means that their patriotism is directionless – it probably always was, but thanks to the wild imagination of the underclasses, they believed that they had something that they can call their own.

    You can blame the Jews all you want, but maybe the day of the final realization is not too far away, when it finally dawns on everybody that to their elites they mean less than the poor Jews meant to Hitler.

  87. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeanne

    “I don’t think technology is driving this. In Quebec the anglo elites ”killed” us french white quebecers through cultural genocide. (Cultural genocide was also the method the Anglos used to destroy indigenous peoples).”

    Canada has forced bilingualism, French on every product, signs in French all across Canada and a taxpayer funded French TV and radio networks in all major cities even where no substantial French is spoken. French culture and language is forced on the rest of Canada 24/7 whether they want it or not. As for saying that this was done to indigenous peoples too is simply stupid. The original government plan for the natives was to do everything to educate them and assimilate them knowing that they would always be at a dis-adavantage in white society if they were not educated. It went wrong because of the socialist construct of the reserve system. Today, Indians and Eskimos have endless money thrown at them to promote their culture and language (with money even provided to give them writing systems that they never had before). They have their own media and have year round fishing and hunting rights that whites don’t have. No cultural genocide going on here.

    “– Essentially the Anglos dispossessed us of our lands, resources, medical/education systems through privatisation.”

    In Quebec, lands, resources and medical/education systems are all controlled by the Quebec government so the French-Canadian elites have sold out their own people to private interests.

    “– The Anglos assimilated us by imposing their engligh language which is very poor compared to french. They also imposed their “music” which is very poor, repetitive, and indigest.”

    When the British overthrew the French in the 1763 war the French numbered 60,000, they now number six million in Quebec. French Canadian folk music is heard all across country with French Canadian cultural festivals all across the country. As for what music is superior, that’s a matter of personal preference.

    “– The Anglos systematically bash french-speaking white quebecers, banish our folk and trad music, our religion, and they tax us for the CBC (state-owned media) to demonize and culpabilize us day after day because we refuse to take part in their wars and their orgy of weaponization and their genocide in Iraq, Libya, their crusades of SS in Ukraine, etc.”

    As for the rest of what you say in the last part, all white Canadians are being subjected to these same things.

  88. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @melpol

    “Positive Mongrelization” is an oxymoron. The term “mongrelization” is normally considered to be a negative as it takes that which is pure and adulterates it.

    If you like hanging around malls and picking up whatevers for sex that’s you’re business but I don’t think most people consider it to be beautiful.

    • Replies: @jay
  89. Skeptikal says:
    @Wally

    “You recite leftist talking points, but prove nothing.”

    Oh, yawn.

    You didn’t even identify the photo you used.

  90. melpol says:
    @Jake

    There is nothing wrong with the Atheist and rootless person. Believing in an open sky and world is just fine. Most people are self interested sexual freaks and are willing to hop from one attractive person to the next. Lotto winners often dump their family and move on to an attractive lover. Lack of money and employable skills keeps most people suffering in pain. Those that disagree are hypocrites and wish for a painless divorce and a new lifestyle.

  91. Mefobills says:
    @melpol

    Positive mongrelization of the races is possible when people of equal economic status cohabitate. Both enjoy a materialistic lifestyle and enjoy similar food tastes.

    Depending on genetic distance, mongrelization does not make hybrid vigor.

    Tens of thousands of years of evolution has already done its work, and more likely you are going to get a dysgenic output.

    Two races that are reasonably close in genetic distance, the offspring is likely to be ok. But, then there are social factors for the off-spring… sometimes they feel like they lost their history as their ties to their ancestors are somewhat broken. Being in the same class and having similar interests, and similar IQ’s can overcome racial differences.

    In terms of social policy, the only reason for immigration is to take usury on immigrants – to steal their labor value, to then make “capital” be above labor.

    I once asked a Norwegian girl what her ancestry was. She told me “Norwegian, all the way back.” That gives a person a grounded-ness, as they are in their country, speaking their language, and are accepted as a fellow.

    The natural order is nation-states, with their own sovereign money, and their own polity. If the people are homogeneous, then that is a source of STABILITY, not chaos.

    The 1926 immigration cut-off in America was put into place for precisely the above reason.. to make a new homogeneous american man.

    The 1965 immigration act was funded into place by the (((usual suspects))) to break homogeneity, and create chaos, from which capital can thrive.

    The time to buy is when there is blood in the streets.

    • Replies: @melpol
    , @S
  92. @Jake

    The fact is that most whites today need to face the fact that the particular national culture they hoped to save is poison and should be allowed to die. That means they must embrace better culture. As this is a spiritual war, any national or ethnic or regional culture that is not focused on recreating Christendom is at best a waste of time.

    Thank You so much! Just remember: Wherever You Go There You Are. I tried relocating to an almost foreign country but came back after a year.

    I was born a jew but ever since my christian baptism have publicly renounced and denounced judaism as being the greatest evil in our known world.

    Maybe if i was a troll i’d be satisfied with posting online but a healthy human needs to find others of like mind and, hopefully, soul. Because i don’t listen to or watch the local news i’ve been unaware of the growing local activism focused on exposing the evils of abortion and most especially my state’s lack of laws restricting it that result in fetuses being killed by a lethal injection administered at any time prior to the beginning of labor, essentially murdering an unborn child right up to the moment in which it begins to leave the womb. So this is how i can find people who share my christian values, by joining with them at their sidewalk vigils outside of these death factories where that lethal injection is administered at a facility owned and operated by the state university system, so it’s really killing done by the state, for real. I didn’t know these things were happening politically and if there are genuine christians offering their fellowship, that’s where they’ll be.

    If people are unhappy and think they can solve that by going elsewhere, think again.

  93. S says:
    @JUSA

    As Robert Putnam pointed out in his book Bowling Alone, diversity decreases social cohesion by increasing distrust between groups. Immigration must be small in number to facilitate assimilation..

    Great points.

    From pg 4 of a 2003 academic paper elaborating upon how ‘immigration’ had historically been used as a powerful (and very profitable) political weapon by corrupt elements of the elites and hangers on, ie either elites of one’s own people, and, or, alien.

    ‘..the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups, settlement in the ‘frontier’ (periphery), and control over the natives and their land. These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony..’

    …The same people who promote “diversity” makes *everything* about race.

    Now, what would make the simple acknowlegement of the entirely natural existance of ‘race’, and a healthy desire driven by goodwill to stop the genocide of the same via being ‘mixed’ away, such a bad and terrible thing to some folks? 😉

    Pall Mall Gazette of London (1874) – Chinamen Out of China

    “A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.”

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.55223460&view=1up&seq=136&skin=mobile

    https://www.academia.edu/2116622/Between_urban_and_national_45_Political_mobilization_among_46_Mizrahim_in_Israel_s_development_4847_towns_

  94. melpol says:
    @Mefobills

    Homogeneity in the US has been broken and there will always be chaos. All agree that homogeneity is best but it is gone with the wind. People have to accept racial violence and chaos because it will not disappear. My uncle was mugged three times and still whistles on his way to work. Bigots and racists are wasting their efforts, negative social change is here to stay.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Anon
  95. ia says:
    @Anon

    ignore the black history of the white race.

    Blacks in the USA, especially, are the luckiest in the world. They should be grateful for being brought here. Only status-marking Eloi think otherwise.

    It’s insanity for whites to feel guilt about blacks and their many, many problems. Should we hold whites accountable for the sins of their grandfathers 3x and not hold blacks right now accountable for their behavior. Sounds patronizing to the blacks.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  96. Mefobills says:
    @melpol

    Bigots and racists are wasting their efforts, negative social change is here to stay.

    Not necessarily.

    What cannot go on, will not. Most of the dysfunction is funded into existence, as anything against nature needs some sort of energy inputs.

    I’m a proud bigot and racist. See how that works. Now those words have lost their meaning.

    In fact, if you are not somewhat bigoted and racist, then there is something wrong with your brain function. Even children are born bigoted and racist, as they prefer their own family and kind.

    • Replies: @jay
  97. @ia

    “Should we hold whites accountable etc” I haven’t spent a lot of time thinking it through but it sounds good. Still consider the new Jim Crow (It’s the criminal justice system cf. Michelle Anderson).

  98. S says:
    @Mefobills

    Depending on genetic distance, mongrelization does not make hybrid vigor.

    The ‘mongrelization’/’hybrid vigor’ thing being presented as great and wonderful goes back quite aways.

    [MORE]

    A seventy-two page pamphlet promoting this idea, called Miscegenation, and published in 1863 in the United States, found support amongst self described ‘progressives’ (yes, they had the term then) who read it at the time.

    After the 1864 presidential election it was declared to be a purported hoax by a newspaper hostile to Lincoln’s re-election. I say ‘purported’ as it’s so close to how so called ‘progressives’ actually do think (then and now) I wonder if it wasn’t in reality some ‘back door’ means under the guise of a ‘hoax’ for progressives to get their ideas out into the open and into the public mind as a ‘suggestion’. [Ie ‘Some publicity is better than no publicity’.]

    One of the two pamphlets co-authors, David Goodman Croly, was married to a ‘feminist’ Unitarian, and his son was co-founder of the liberal/progressive New Republic magazine in 1914.

    I think this unhealthy obsession with ‘mixing’ and all things Black can be traced to the historic slave dealing centers of places such as Boston and Rhode Island in liberal New England.

    Similarly, the origins of the smug, mocha sipping, fanatical progressive/liberal, at a Seattle Starbucks who dotes upon their wage slave (ie ‘cheap labor’) ‘immigrants’, and all but worships Blacks, can be found in their spiritual and political forebears, ie the Puritan slave dealers and their hangers on of New England, who also ‘doted’ upon their slaves, not that either actually in reality ever truly cared about them, mind you, then and now.

    Not to in any way excuse the consumer, but when a product is considered evil, such as hard drugs or chattel slaves, it’s the dealer of the same which is considered the worst of the lot.

    The ‘progressives’ are not called out on this as they won the [Civil] war, and write the history books. They need to be called out on it though.

    Some of Miscegenation’s chapter titles:

    The Mystery of the Pyramids — The Sphynx Question Answered…All Religions derived from the Dark Races…Love of the Blonde for the Black…Present and Future Relations of the Irish and the Negro…How the Anglo-American may become Strong and Comely..The Miscegenetic Ideal of Beauty in Women…All our Victorious Battle-fields Baptized by the Blood of the Negro, etc, etc

    An example of the contents:

    ‘If any fact is well established in history, it is that the miscegenetic or mixed races are much superior, mentally, physically, and morally, to those pure or unmixed. Wherever on the earth’s surface we find a community which has intermarried for generations, we also find evidences of decay both in the physical and mental powers. On the other hand, wherever, through conquest, colonization, or commerce, different nationalities are blended, a superior human product invariably results.’

    https://archive.org/details/miscegenationthe00crol/page/n2

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Goodman_Croly

    https://erenow.net/ww/the-civil-war-in-50-objects/42.php

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  99. Mefobills says:
    @S

    NSDAP thought went back into centuries of German history. It was not something foreign that popped up out of nowhere, but instead was the end result of careful study.

    From Richard Tedore, Hitler’s revolution:

    What constitutes “racially foreign elements” was a matter of controversy within the NSDAP. Various ethnic groups comprise European civilization: Nordic, Gallic, Basque, Slavic, Baltic, Mediterranean and so forth. Pioneer racial hygienists maintained that intermarriage among diverse white clans produces a superior being. In 1924, the analyst Hildebrandt published an essay explaining, “The highest standard of living evolved where the Nordic race represented the leadership, but
    intermixed with others who adopted its culture.” Hans Günther wrote, “The French anatomist and race researcher de Quatresages observed in 1857 that the greatest mental and physical activity rests not among those of pure race, but among racially cross-bred populations.

    Racially cross-bred populations in this case are actually genetically similar. (see above).

    Hybrid vigor is not something I would hang my hat on when you are talking about miscegenation with very dissimilar races.

    Here is Darwin on the subject:
    http://heretical.com/darwin/darwin6.html

    When two races, both low in the scale, are crossed the progeny seems to be eminently bad. Thus the noble-hearted Humboldt, who felt no prejudice against the inferior races, speaks in strong terms of the bad and savage disposition of Zambos, or half-castes between Indians and Negroes; and this conclusion has been arrived at by various observers.3

    When you boil it down, the elevation of the brown races, women, and encouragement of miscegenation is all a smoke screen to import cheap labor. Demeaning and elimination of a “white patriarchy” is to eliminate resistance to importation of cheap labor.

    • Thanks: S
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  100. BlackFlag says:

    I think it means LARPing on obscure forums or maybe in virtual reality games like Second Life. Forum nationalism, VR nationalism.

  101. Jeannie says:

    and from above through “Anglo-globalization.” The small, rootless international clique has given rise to a rather large and growing Expat Class. The chief problem is our effeminate lifestyle. People spend their entire amidst the omnipresent fakery of the “education” system, office make-work, and screens.

    Great. A very accurate description of our current ”Lifestyle” to my point of view. Anglo-globalization and the fakery of education go together. Read the book: The Anglo-American Establishment by Carroll Quigley.

    Oxford and the Round Table (precursos of the MI6 and chathamhouse, or RIIA, ie NATO UK), had the idea of using educational friendship and educational links throughout the world to implement the MacKinder doctrine, and thus, control the world’s natural resources.

    Educational links created via the Internet, one language is used, English, and frienship links created via FAcebook remain superficial. Another aspect is the growing trend of using the Internet to ”educate” people. That IS total bullshit. Professor Dr Konrad Paul Liessmann on Current Concerns, Switzerland:

    What is education?
    From which school system our children will benefit most in their future lives?

    – The newest hype: “digitisation”
    – “The term education has become an empty shell” …… which gets now loaded with ideology
    – “Digitisation” is not a good preparation for the world of practical work

    From: https://www.zeit-fragen.ch/en/archives/2019/no-20-19-september-2019/what-is-education.html

  102. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    Agreed.

    It seems to be what he is suggesting.

    He has written about how he has been getting into Zen Buddhism, which is helping him to passively accept change. He is writing to help us to ride these changes. He is trying to argue that these changes are inevitable, the result of technology, or something like that, so we must find a way to deal with it.

    His way to get us to accept the change is to tell us that it actually can be reconciled with “nationalism,” if you use a bit of imagination and call it “expat nationalism.”

    That is my pet theory.

  103. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @melpol

    I agree that a little racial violence is not that big of a deal. Violence neurosis is silly to me. Whites who grow up in school with black kids fully understand the violence, but learn to toughen up, and even admire the toughness of the black kids.

    There is one thing that I cannot tolerate. It is that fact that, due to intermarriage, there will be few whites left in civilized parts of the USA in the future. And not the super-distant future, either. I am talking about 150 years or so.

    It just seems like there is a better way. Not for the USA, but surely somewhere in Europe can be spared this.

    • Replies: @melpol
  104. RW says:

    What do you mean by “expat-nationalism”? Sounds like an oxymoron. If one of the necessary ingredients of nationalism is a shared territory, then the idea is contradictory. Besides, you cannot carry on the traditions of your home country in a foreign land, especially when half the expats you know are married to locals and their kids are not fluent in their languages of their homelands.

  105. @Z-man

    Ha! It’s a rigged system.

    Excuses, excuses, more excuses.

    You make fun of blacks who live in poverty and squalor and complain all day that white man is keeping them down. Then, you go to conspiracy web site and whine that jewish man is keeping you down. LOL.

    If you actually, sincerely believed that Jews control the whole world, the logical course would be learn from the Jews and emulate them.

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  106. seeuhay says:

    Every self-anointed prophet spewing such idiocies should get first a diploma from an accredited institution of higher learning. As a starter, here is a snippet from The Oration of Eusebius Pamphilus (Ch.XVI) about his Novo Ordum Seclorum:

    4. At the same time one universal power, the Roman empire, arose and flourished, while the enduring and implacable hatred of nation against nation was now removed: and as the knowledge of one God, and one way of religion and salvation, even the doctrine of Christ, was made known to all mankind; so at the self-same period, the entire dominion of the Roman empire being vested in a single sovereign, profound peace reigned throughout the world. And thus, by the express appointment of the same God, two roots of blessing, the Roman empire, and the doctrine of Christian piety, sprang up together for the benefit of men.

    5. For before this time the various countries of the world, as Syria, Asia, Macedonia, Egypt, and Arabia, had been severally subject to different rulers. The Jewish people, again, had established their dominion in the land of Palestine. And these nations, in every village, city, and district, actuated by some insane spirit, were engaged in incessant and murderous war and conflict. But two mighty powers, starting from the same point, the Roman empire, which henceforth was swayed by a single sovereign, and the Christian religion, subdued and reconciled these contending elements.

    6. Our Saviour’s mighty power destroyed at once the many governments and the many gods of the powers of darkness, and proclaimed to all men, both rude and civilized, to the extremities of the earth, the sole sovereignty of God himself. Meantime the Roman empire, the causes of multiplied governments being thus removed, effected an easy conquest of those which yet remained; its object being to unite all nations in one harmonious whole; an object in great measure already secured, and destined to be still more perfectly attained, even to the final conquest of the ends of the habitable world, by means of the salutary doctrine, and through the aid of that Divine power which facilitates and smooths its way.

  107. S says:
    @Mefobills

    When you boil it down, the elevation of the brown races, women, and encouragement of miscegenation is all a smoke screen to import cheap labor. Demeaning and elimination of a “white patriarchy” is to eliminate resistance to importation of cheap labor.

    Almost everything about what is called modern day ‘liberalism’/’progressivism’ is in reality about promoting what is the most profitable financially under cover of a faux ‘freedom’/’equality’. I say that within the context of I too, along with plenty of others, think that historically there have been many problems that needed working on between peoples, individuals, and the two sexes, etc, just not going about it in that manner.

    Per the emboldened portion of your comment, the London Times in 1851 in reference to the US ambassador/textile factory magnate Abbott Lawrence, all but openly admitted this in regard to the enmasse predation of the Irish people as wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) by the United States at the time, declaring they would be ‘known no more’ as a people as a direct result.

    The Celtic Irish of Ireland would be replaced in Ireland with what the Times deemed to be a slave race, the historic Plantation ‘immigrants’ imported into Ireland, the people of Northern Ireland today.

    The Irish entirely concurred with the Times and called this predation ‘extermination’, and according to The Spectator of London members of the British aristocracy in Ireland at the time (1847) who were promoting or sponsoring the mass exodus of the Irish to the United States as wage slaves (‘cheap labor’) were being shot for doing so.

    No concern at all was given by the Times to the fate of the general Anglo-Saxon public of the US due to the mass immigration. [See the comment link below for more on the subject]

    ‘..known no more..’

    London Times (Sept 30, 1851) – The American Minister in Ireland

    “The prosperity and happiness he [Ambassador Lawrence] speaks of may some day reign over that beautiful island. It’s fertile soil, its water-power, its minerals, and other materials for the wants and luxuries of man, may one day be developed; but all apearances are against the belief that this will ever happen in the days of the Celt.

    That tribe will soon fulfill the great law of Providence which seems to enjoin and reward the union of races. It [the Irish people] will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people. Its present place [in Ireland] will be occupied by the more mixed, more docile, and more serviceable race, which has long borne the yoke of sturdy industry in this island, which can submit to a master and obey the law…”

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/pbs-assaults-white-americans/#comment-3716252

  108. jay says:
    @anon

    Actually selective interbreeding can be advantageous. Not chaotic breeding as you say which doesn’t occur in real life except by coercion.

  109. jay says:
    @Mefobills

    What’s bizarre is that equate in-group preference with eternal out-group hostility.

    Those doing the accusing are projecting since their form of Nationalism always involves screwing others.

    In regards to interbreeding. Bacteria exchange genes to ensure adaptation. There are rare cases of hybrid species doing much better as a distinct species themselves.

    If such a thing is against nature then such instances should be impossible.

    So I think it serves the function in certain cases to allow the assimilation of better traits.

  110. @Jake

    Well I am not Jewish and I dont know any either. The closest I have ever been to one in on a flight out of New York. I had to hold a handkerchief to my nose for the entire 1 hour ride. Notwithstanding that I am not sure whether my comments are applicable to anything Jews would say. For hundreds of thousands of years people have wondered all over the place in a nomadic lifestyle. Just 150 years ago or so our native tribes lived such a life and the camper trailer and RV is a now a part of our life style. Last summer I met a retired English police officer (and wife) who travel all over the US and Canada in a suited up delivery van. They had backed up the van on the beach. He was smoking a cigar, she drinking a cup of tea and both were reading 0.25c novels they had scrounged at a garage sale. Wherever they parked that was their home and with their small pensions were as rich as any billionaire tooling around in the private jet and the stretch limo.

    As for being rootless I could not disagree more. I have a plant in a pot and it is well rooted but I can move it here and there as I wish even dropping it off at friends when I am going to be away. Selfishness and self-absorbed …?? these are natural and deeply ingrained characteristics of man linked to our instinct for survival and other primitive traits few of us even know we have. Anyone who proclaims him/herself to be completely selfless and never self absorbed is either a fool or a liar ! I am concerned about my immediate family and those who are concerned about me, whether friends or family. All others are just there, people I pass who I soon forget and who I hope soon forget me. The Saviour of the world was crucified 2 thousand years ago and I have no desire to take his place.

    As to why the country seems to be going down the tubes and why elites despise the masses I dont need to analyze the reasons. For one I mostly know what they are and two there is not much I can do to change peoples’ attitudes and behaviour. I can only control my own and as a prudent man I have to be prepared to deal with contingencies.

    One thing I know about human nature is that people take and take and endure and endure and one day at the slightest, most innocuous and seemingly unimportant event explode. I am no prepper or survivalist but I have been in and lived in countries and places where discretion was the better part of valour.

    To each his own. It took me a long time to see freedom was more important than chasing the dollar. Each person must choose their own lifestyle but if I could do it again, I would work my ass off , live cheaply and put aside and invest every penny and check out by age 35.

  111. melpol says:
    @Anon

    Smart and attractive white girls will continue marrying smart white guys. But for negative reasons there will remain inter-racial marriages.
    White kids sharing the classroom with black kids need to toughen up but it is difficult. Blacks were bred by slave owner to be strong and quick cotton pickers.
    Some whites will become victims but not enough to cause tougher laws.

  112. Hatter says:

    The author forgot to mention or overlooked, The Peace of Westphalia 1648.

    ‘The principle of state’s sovereignty promoted in 1648 became soon the crucial pivot for the creation of the national-states, first across Europe and later around the world. The essence of modern national-state became the Westphalian idea that political legitimacy has to come from secular legal authority rather than from divine sanction as it was a practice in the Middle Ages. This is how the way to the constitution (supreme law collection) and constitutional government was paved by the Peace Treaty of Westphalia, ‘

  113. Durocher: “Thus, we will inevitably see a steady denationalization of our societies, …

    To deny these trends, which are in large part technologically determined, is simply wishful thinking.”

    I have been pointing out the inevitability of the destruction of the white race as a result of technological change for many years now. It was, after all, technological change which tore down the geographic barriers that had previously, for most of its history, kept the white race isolated as a breeding population, a necessary precondition both for its arising in the first place and for its continued existence. Were it not for technological “progress”, there would be no immigration crisis, nor any global economy. However, the constant rejoinder has been that “technology is just a tool” that man can direct however he wants, as though there were no necessity at all involved its use or development, and never any unintended consequences.

    However, a closer look shows that technological advances are intimately bound up with man’s struggle for survival in a hostile world. One cannot simply refuse to progress, because using inferior technology reduces to a decision to accept less than optimum results; it’s a choice to lose, which in war (a great driver of technological progress) leads to subjugation and death. But even outside of war, inferior technology will still not be voluntarily used, since humans generally want their efforts to be a productive as possible, and their lives made as easy and luxurious as possible. Thus, there is built in, due to human nature itself, a trend towards an increasingly effeminate lifestyle. The logical end of technological “progress” comes when labor-saving devices have finally obviated the need for anyone to work at all. The development of artificial intelligence may even eliminate man’s need to maintain the system itself. He will shortly, perhaps, have made himself irrelevant, a completely useless biological appendage to his machines.

    Durocher would like to hold out the hope that these trends, which he here on the one hand admits are “inevitable”, can nevertheless be avoided with something called “ex-pat nationalism”. Whatever that’s supposed to be, it seems to me unlikely to achieve its desired result, assuming its desired result is the continued survival of the white race. If the technological system persists, the process of globalization will continue; nations will wither away, and discrete races will disappear. The system itself will never be voluntarily eliminated, but it could be destroyed, perhaps permanently. This could occur as a result of a deliberate act, but more likely as an unintended consequence of its own expansion. At any rate, once the system collapses or is made to collapse, things will gradually return to the status quo ante. In a world reduced to primitive technology, famine, war, and disease will kill the vast majority of the world’s population, and it can be anticipated that the remainder will self-segregate according to race, each establishing its own territory. It’s to be hoped that whites will be able to retain and reclaim at least North America and Europe, but of course that can’t be known for sure. However, continued “progress” and globalization only guarantees their slow racial death by a thousand cuts.

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  114. @melpol

    @ melpol —-I couldn’t DISAGREE with you more !!!!! Racial mongrelization DESTROYS both a nation, as well as a neighborhood !!! You completely destoy the national character of a country by racial inbreeding, as every race has it’s own customs and temperament, thus leading to nothing but conflict, in society.

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  115. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Hello, Unabomber! Technology was also used to exterminate 6 million kikes last century in the span of a few short years. Technology could be good too, axiology is the key in this case.

  116. melpol says:
    @Larry Smith

    The best working relationship is a marriage between attractive and smart couples of the same race. But not everybody is smart and attractive. Race mixing is a second choice and it keeps some people happy.

  117. anon[402]: “Technology could be good too, axiology is the key in this case.”

    If the humans can accomplish whatever they want with the technological system, it follows inescapably that what they want is their current condition. Of course, this is only logic, and your objection would only be made by an emotional ideologue to whom logic means nothing, so you will ignore it.

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  118. @John Chuckman

    So, in-migration must be a part of every healthy society in the future, and this necessarily means different kinds of people arriving on your shores.

    And yet the newcomers too are affected by the “demographic transition,” so further new arrivals will be required… until we run out of people on earth.

    In reality, this is a non-solution to a non-problem, and formerly happy, homogeneous countries will be have been turned into negrified, islamified trash heaps for no good reason.

    In an old familiar society like Britain, one whose people have an image we all enjoy and assume to be enduring, we actually have a history of Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Norman French, and others creating the hybrid people we know.

    Yeah dude, various European ethnic groups congealing to form new European ethnic groups is exactly like what is happening today. Lol.

    Look, race is real and it matters. Choke on it.

  119. EWM says:

    This will happen when people are duped into believing that there is someone who is good enough to rule over them.

  120. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Humans are goyim.

    “Every great age is governed by aristocracies. Aristocracy meaning this: The best are ruling. Peoples never govern themselves. That lunacy was concocted by liberalism. Behind its ‘people’s sovereignty’ the slyest cheaters are hiding who don’t want to be seen.” – Joseph Goebbels

    “All life is bound up in three theses: struggle is the father of all things, virtue lies in the blood, and leadership is primary and decisive. – Adolf Hitler in a 1928 Speech

    Do you not admit that the NSDAP proved that technology can be good? You are such an Unabomber.

  121. anon[402]: “Do you not admit that the NSDAP proved that technology can be good? You are such an Unabomber.”

    As I predicted, you ignored the argument. Is the current situation good? Isn’t it, too, the result of technological “progress”? If “the slyest cheaters” are ruling, and they are in complete control of technology and can make it do whatever they want, then how did they obtain such control except that white people voluntarily gave it to them? After all, whites are originators of the technological system. Apparently you think they have self-consciously engineered their own extinction.

    Now let me guess, you will also refuse to directly address this. Instead, you’ll engage in more “wishful thinking”, as Durocher put it.

  122. @.aryan transhumanism

    Become gods? That is your solution? It is because we have abandoned the true God whose will and ways are the very opposite to our greed, selfishness, lust for power & control, and our materialism & hedonism, that the world is on its course of self-destruction. It is because we want to play God that there is so much unrest and evil in the world, and our very political and corporate structures reinforce that evil. To get to the top of any organization these days, unless it is voluntary charitable organization or some kind of a religious monastery, where the heads administer their will with selflessness and sacrifice, for a good compatible with the true God, one has to leave their conscience behind and be willing to walk over the faces of any one in their way, always doing the bidding of some exclusive interest for more power, wealth or pleasure. We honor our political leaders as great people, whether a Trump, a Trudeau, a Clinton, a Biden, or a Sanders, and everyone of them has far less integrity and virtue than the average person on the street. All have risen to the so-called “top” by selling out their souls to ascend in some totally corrupt hierarchy of power, and then we wonder why nothing changes after spending billions in elections and listening to promises of routing out evil and corruption everywhere. The only thing which will change anything is the conversion of the individual person. There is no systemic solution, unless you want to settle for the centralization and totalitarianism of the bankster, corporatocracy and socialist, cabal backing controlling globalist movement, eradicating the integrity of the individual person, nation states, the family values, and the true Jerusalem of Christianity.

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  123. C.T. says: • Website
    @Fred Baggins

    You have portrayed everything as a photographic negative: white you saw black and vice versa. What caused white ethno-suicide was Christianity. Any regular reader of my site has read how from Constantine miscegenation was tacitly promoted in Constantinople, the mud capital of the Byzantine Empire; and how a thousand years later the Spaniards and Portuguese destroyed their gene pool across an entire continent through miscegenation: thus obeying the encyclical of a Pope who allowed marriage between whites and Indians.

    I would suggest to anyone who ignores the basic aetiology of white decline—the axiological part of Christianity, as an Anon says a few comments above—to read this post:

    https://chechar.wordpress.com/2020/01/18/start-here-2/

  124. C.T.: “I would suggest to anyone who ignores the basic aetiology of white decline—the axiological part of Christianity, as an Anon says a few comments above—to read this post:”

    The problem isn’t just the Christian moral system (axiology), but the entire Christian worldview. The belief in the existence of an afterlife that is more important than this current life, the belief in the existence of a Santa Claus for adults called God or Providence, the belief in the existence of a soul distinct from the body, the idea of Christ and desire to emulate him, the idea of the world as a kind of stage for a morality play, a battle of good vs. evil — all of it is toxic. Even Hitler’s worldview was corrupted by such errors, probably a large part of the reason Germany lost the war.

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/hitler-vs-the-untermenschen/#comment-3755365

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  125. C.T. says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You surely misunderstand the word ‘axiology’, which in fact encompasses everything that you say above. I am not using the term as Adunai uses it (whether he’s the referred ‘Anon’ or not). I’m using it to denote an entire Zeitgeist, which presently is secular (that’s why I even call Greg Johnson and Kevin MacDonald ‘neo-christians’).

    Publicly he had to compromise, hypocritically. But privately Hitler was not a Christian. As to those who believe that the Führer wasn’t anti-Christian see my collection of his anti-Christian quotes here (my newest quote has been published today):

    https://chechar.wordpress.com/category/hitlers-table-talk-book/

    In his after-dinner conversation of 21st October 1941, Hitler did say that Jesus wasn’t fully Jewish. In Hitler’s times, Richard Carrier (see his YouTube conferences) hadn’t been born, and secular scholars believed that an all-too-human Jesus existed. (I believed this too until I read Carrier’s book On the Historicity of Jesus: What We Might Have Reason for Doubt.) Like many atheists, Hitler believed the legend that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier who raped Mary, which makes this hypothetical Jesus ‘Aryan’ from his father’s side.

    In his many comments, Morgan is framing his argument as if Hitler believed in the Hebrew god as common Christians do, something that clearly is untrue. Hitler’s pantheism must have been influenced by the classic German idealism of the century in which he was born. Morgan is just ignorant about German philosophy, especially the legacy of Schelling and Hegel.

  126. Z-man says:
    @another anon

    I don’t want to learn to becomeSatan

    • Agree: John Regan
  127. Z-man says:

    I don’t want to learn from them because I don’t want to become like them, Satan’s spawns.
    It’s not a conspiracy, it’s fact.
    I’m relatively successful financially speaking. Personally or spiritually speaking I’m infinitely better off than the Jooz.
    And yes, to know them is to detest them.

  128. C.T.: “You surely misunderstand the word ‘axiology’ …”

    Words have definite meanings; they can’t be made to mean whatever you want. Moral systems and a Zeitgeist (again, the wrong word, I’d argue) aren’t the same thing. Nor is Christianity one single thing. Talk to a few Christians and you will find that each one will claim that his is the only “real” Christianity, and all the others are fakes. The phrase you are looking for is the Christian worldview, and Hitler suffered from it too, as do other secular people like Johnson and MacDonald. One thing that runs through virtually all of the various Christianities is a pernicious dualism (the belief that there is such a thing as a “soul” separate from the body), and an indeterminism (i.e., a belief in free will), which is absolutely incompatible with a scientific worldview.

    C.T.: “In his after-dinner conversation of 21st October 1941, Hitler did say that Jesus wasn’t fully Jewish.”

    Wrong. He says he was an Aryan. This absurdity is psychologically necessary to him because despite his objections to the churches and their implementation of Christianity, he never repudiates Christ, and even, in other places, seems to strongly identify with him.

    Christus war ein Arier, aber Paulus hat seine Lehre benutzt, die Unterwelt zu mobilisieren und einen Vorbolschewismus zu organisieren; mit dessen Einbruch ging die schöne Klarheit der antiken Welt verloren.

    Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilise the criminal underworld and thus organise a protoBolshevism. This intrusion upon the world marks the end of a long reign, that of the clear Graeco-Latin genius.

    – Table Talks, 13th December 1941, midday

    C.T.: “In his many comments, Morgan is framing his argument as if Hitler believed in the Hebrew god as common Christians do, something that clearly is untrue.”

    If Christ is an Aryan, as Hitler believed, then God isn’t Hebrew, is he? Apparently you haven’t read my comments any more carefully than you did Hitler’s remarks in Table Talk. Hitler’s attacks against Christianity can all be explained as attacks on particular implementations of it, not as it being an irremediably defective worldview. This is because it’s a worldview he shares in many ways.

    C.T.: “Hitler’s pantheism must have been influenced by the classic German idealism of the century in which he was born. ”

    I don’t believe this. Where does Hitler claim to be a pantheist?

    C.T.: “Morgan is just ignorant about German philosophy, especially the legacy of Schelling and Hegel.”

    Hitler’s favorite philosopher was Schopenhauer, and Schopenhauer despised Hegel. I’ll stack my knowledge of Schopenhauer up against yours any day.

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  129. C.T. says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Axiology is a set of values, and thus similar to meta-ethics which borders the concept of Zeitgeist. I no longer use the expression ‘Christian axiology’ as Adunai uses it. I prefer ‘Christian ethics’, which includes the ethics of secular neo-Christians in white nationalism.

    Only William Pierce-like exterminationists have actually given up Xtian ethics (e.g., Alex Linder), as explained in my first essay of Day of Wrath. The fact that Hitler had Himmler as his second in command (cf. Himmler’s Posen speech) strongly suggests that the Führer already had given up Christian ethics.

    Dishonest Richard Carrier views Hitler not as a pantheist, but that Hitler held something similar to… Christian Identity! Richard Weikart, professor of Modern European history at California State University Stanislaus, said: ‘Hitler was a pantheist, he believed nature is divine, nature is God’. Weikart has debated Carrier online about whether Hitler was pantheist or not. The subject is complex but anyone reading his table talks will definitively conclude that Hitler was not Christian (or CI).

    Your quote of Hitler saying that Jesus was Aryan only proves that secular rumiations about the historical Jesus in Hitler’s time were tainted by the many ‘lives of Jesus’ that became so fashionable after Renan, most of which were non-divine Jesuses: fictional and often contradictory views about a human Jesus. Hitler, a human, was obviously influenced by the fads and fallacies of his time. Errare humanum est.

    The phrase you are looking for is the Christian worldview, and Hitler suffered from it too…

    I doubt those who have read my link above about the anti-Christian pronouncements of Hitler will agree with you on this one.

  130. C.T.: “I prefer [the term] ‘Christian ethics’, which includes the ethics of secular neo-Christians in white nationalism.”

    Again, there are many Christianities, and many kinds of “Christian ethics”. Your conception of them are not the same as Hitler’s, nor of those you call neo-Christians. He expressed his notion of them quite well in one of his speeches, while also revealing his strong identification with Christ.

    My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…. And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people…. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
    -Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

    [Note, “brood of vipers” appears in Matt. 3:7 & 12:34. John 2:15 depicts Jesus driving out the money changers (adders) from the temple. The word “adders” also appears in Psalms 140:3]

    C.T.: “Dishonest Richard Carrier views Hitler not as a pantheist, but that Hitler held something similar to… Christian Identity! ”

    Why should this surprise you? I don’t think it’s dishonest at all. As I understand it, the belief that Christ was an Aryan is one of the most fundamental tenets of CI. So is the belief that only white people (i.e., Aryans) are capable of being “saved”. Perhaps this would have been more obvious to you if you’d been aware that Hitler claimed Christ was an Aryan.

    C.T.: “Your quote of Hitler saying that Jesus was Aryan only proves that …”

    You’re entitled to your opinion, but I think it’s good evidence that Hitler identified w/Christ.

    C.T.: “Richard Weikart, professor of Modern European history at California State University Stanislaus, said: ‘Hitler was a pantheist, he believed nature is divine, nature is God’. ”

    This view strikes me as uninformed and biased. Weikart is apparently a Christian, so of course he wants to claim Hitler had nothing but hatred for Christianity. He doesn’t want his religion associated with Hitler in any way. I’m still waiting for you to produce a quote from Hitler himself saying that he was a pantheist. I can produce plenty of quotes of him claiming to be a Christian. He also believes in Providence (i.e., God), which he mentions many places. Providence appears to be a force distinct from Nature, in his view. As a fan of Schopenhauer, Hitler was probably familiar with this formulation too:

    “Pantheism is a self-defeating concept, because the concept of a God presupposes a world different from him as an essential correlate. If, on the other hand, the world is supposed to take over his role, then an absolute world without God remains; hence pantheism is only an euphemism for atheism.”
    ― Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena

    Hitler was opposed to atheism.

    C.T.: “I doubt those who have read my link above about the anti-Christian pronouncements of Hitler will agree with you on this one.”

    That may be, since as Schopenhauer also said, “He who writes for fools will always find a large public.”

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  131. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You say that a belief in free will is incompatible with a scientific worldview and I have read numerous comments of yours where you mention determinism as a fact and free will an illusion or error. I’m interested in your perspective on determinism. Like you I don’t believe humans have a soul. I believe rather that humans have a brain with consciousness. But if humans have no free will then do they have any responsibility for the modern technological globalist system? Did humans ‘choose’ to create this and if not what, if anything, is responsible for the choices humans make and the thoughts they think. Necessity? I lack the understanding in this area.

    I’d like to read your thoughts on this matter as I consider you a highly capable thinker that I can learn something from.

    Thanks.

    • Thanks: Adûnâi
  132. C.T. says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    For fools? So you mean that those who read Hitler’s table talks are now fools (as my link above links to those talks)? We don’t need Schopenhauer’s quotes about pantheism when we have Hitler in his own words. This is what he said on 20th February 1942, midday:

    We are witnessing the final somersaults of Christianity. It began with the Lutheran revolution. The revolutionary nature of that rebellion lies in the fact that until then there had been only one authority, on both the spiritual and the temporal level, that of the Pope—for it was he who delegated temporal power.

    Dogma cannot resist the ceaselessly renewed attacks of the spirit of free enquiry. One cannot teach at ten o’clock in the morning truths which one destroys in the eleven o’clock lesson. What is ruining Christianity today is what once ruined the ancient world. The pantheistic mythology would no longer suit the social conditions of the period. As soon as the idea was introduced that all men were equal before God, that world was bound to collapse.

    An ambiguous statement that invites reading more of his after-dinner talks, but certainly not the pious Hitler of your above quote. IIRC, some time ago you yourself said elsewhere that Hitler had two tongues about Xtianity: one tongue for the masses and a more sincere tongue when he was with his closest friends.

    He would not speak to them without using parables, but when he was alone with his disciples, he would explain everything to them (Mark 4:34).

  133. Joseph Walsh: “But if humans have no free will then do they have any responsibility for the modern technological globalist system? Did humans ‘choose’ to create this and if not what, if anything, is responsible for the choices humans make and the thoughts they think. Necessity?”

    These are interesting questions that can (and have) been analyzed in thick volumes by distinguished authors, but the short answer in my view is that responsibility is quite a different concept than causation. It is hard to conceive of how any human society could be constructed without some notion of responsibility, even if there really is no free will and all actions, thoughts, and desires are unavoidable. But then, as you suggest, necessity steps in. Because human societies provide an evolutionary advantage to their members, it’s reasonable to suspect that evolution has so shaped the brain as to force this way of thinking about things. Certainly, we must suspect ourselves, since if evolutionary theory is true what we think is true about reality is the product of a process of selection. In other words, when we look into ourselves, the impression we have that our will is free, and its corollary notion of responsibility, could both be illusions, but necessary illusions in that they help us survive, and helped our ancestors survive.

    The idea that free will must be an illusion comes because free will is extremely problematic from a scientific point of view, and particularly from an evolutionary perspective. At what point in the evolutionary sequence did it arise? For example, does a monkey have free will? How about a lizard or frog? An insect? A paramecium? Proponents of free will need to explain it in evolutionary terms, and they can’t. Usually, they want to restrict free will to humans, and that goes against evolutionary theory right away, since according to it man is just an animal like any other. Did the monkey-like ancestors of modern humans have free will? If so, how about their ancestors, and the ancestors of their ancestors, and so on? Eventually we could work our way back all the way to bacteria, which, I trust, no one would think have free will. Further, this effort to set man apart from the rest of Nature stinks of Christianity. I suspect a large part of the reason the effort is made is to prop up the Christian worldview, at least in the cultures that share that inheritance.

    As to whether humans chose to create the technological system and bear responsibility for it, I touched on this above, here.

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/towards-expat-nationalism/#comment-3754023

    Struggle for survival in a hostile world means that technology must be employed by anyone who wants to survive, and mandates that technological progress will occur. Perhaps we can imagine a race of humans who have perfect mastery over their desires, and who are indifferent as to pleasure and pain, and don’t care whether they survive or not, but that is not the human race as it currently exists. Humans as they actually are try to maximize pleasure and minimize pain. They almost always choose life instead of death. Hence, there must be “progress”. We can assign responsibility and blame them if we wish, but as they are people really have no choice.

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  134. C.T.: “An ambiguous statement that invites reading more of his after-dinner talks, but certainly not the pious Hitler of your above quote. ”

    As I said, his attacks on Christianity can all be understood as on particular implementations of it. Examine again the above quote I gave you, when he claims Christ was an Aryan, and he immediately goes on to attack the apostle Paul, implying that Paul corrupted Jesus’ teaching. But unless Hitler had retained an esteem for Christ, he wouldn’t say he was an Aryan. Further, since Hitler plainly still has esteem for him, it’s reasonable to conclude that there is some interpretation of Christ’s teachings that is acceptable to him. Probably it involves Christ as a fighter, as an anti-semite, and so on. Also, Christian love, but probably heretically redefined as love only for Aryans, which he says in MK are the only true humans. The exact particulars we’ll likely never know for sure, since he didn’t set them out explicitly. But a careful reader can detect traces of a Christian worldview in his words. There’s much more evidence too, some of which I touched on in the other thread, but that’s enough for now.

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  135. C.T. says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It was very difficult to be perfect in those days regarding Christianity, without the information we have today. Regardless of how hybrid, ambivalent and confusing Hitler was about the figure of Jesus, today’s white nationalists are axiologically much more backward (‘Neanderthals’ for using my favourite word), including atheists. Unlike those times, they no longer speak of eugenics and the need to kill the mentally retarded, let alone these neo-Christians of today could devise final solutions to the problem of the retarded and non-Gentiles.

    Undoubtedly, today’s white nationalists are much closer to the teachings of the New Testament than Hitler and his henchmen, regardless of what they believed about Jesus. I am pleased that the coronavirus is one of the cups spilled on Earth that, following their metaphors, appears in the book of Revelation. Once the earth is reaped with the sharp sickle, the white survivors will have abandoned Christian ethics.

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  136. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > “Humans as they actually are try to maximize pleasure and minimize pain. They almost always choose life instead of death. Hence, there must be “progress”. We can assign responsibility and blame them if we wish, but as they are people really have no choice.”

    But only those humans can continue existing after this century who have solved this question. So, in a way, man is predestined to overcome technology (if he is to exist at all). Americans will die out, Koreans will prevail – natural selection.

    Of course, you will say that AnPrim is the only way – I will say Juche Koreans abort mudblood babies.

  137. Adûnâi says:
    @C.T.

    > “Unlike those times, they no longer speak of eugenics and the need to kill the mentally retarded…”

    Do you remember that in the US, also the abused schizo children were sterilized? I personally savour the idea, yet you oppose any psychiatric action at all – even that not based on the pseudoscientific biological psychiatry.

    https://chechar.wordpress.com/2018/08/21/from-the-great-confinement-of-louis-xiv-of-france-to-a-chemical-gulag-part-1/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeble-minded

    Why do you praise Hitler for Aktion T4, yet blame Louis XIV for l’Hôpital général de Paris? To me, both are admirable.

  138. C.T. says: • Website

    You are confusing apples with oranges. To sterilise a perfectly healthy (though traumatised at home) child is pseudoscientific; to sterilise a retarded one is good eugenics. In other words, just as the Nazis were confused about Jesus, they were confused about eugenics and psychiatry too.

    After the 1656 edict by Louis XIV both, the saner people than the normie and those who suffered mental disorders were committed in the same place.

    To put an example of real life, if someone said that the case of Apollonius of Tyana (c. 15 – c. 100 AD) demonstrated that the case of Jesus the magician wasn’t unique in the ancient world, he was committed. That is: the freethinkers who were saner than the pious Christians of the time were committed in Paris, together with the homeless and the insane!

    In this way, both the saner than the normie (e.g., the freethinker) and the truly insane were considered ‘equals’ in the sense of deviant behaviour. Let’s commit to the Hôpitaux Généraux of France those above and below the norm, let’s standarise the common citizen!

    I have explained the history of totalitarian psychiatry elsewhere and I don’t need to explain it again here.

    https://cienciologia.wordpress.com

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  139. Anon[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Assuming that expat nationalism is about retaining identities in other countries, as expats (I.e. become diaspora people) I’d say that there is a bit of a problem, from the American perspective. Most Americans want to shed our Americanness and put it behind us. So do other expats. But other expats often are obnoxious anti-white, anti-racist types of people who want a race-mixing World Without Borders and hate all dissenters. I don’t know if it is possible to make a diaspora subculture with expats: they are the most un-tribalistic people in the world.

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