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A coalition of French think-tanks and pollsters recently published the eighth edition of the Fractures françaises (“French Fractures”) poll, notably showing the evaporation of the “Macron bump” in favor of globalism and the return of the French to their traditional hostility to immigration and to loss sovereignty to the European Union.

Macron’s election coincided with a sharp increase in the number of French who believed “France is not in decline,” rising from 14% to 31%, a figure which is now subsiding. Today, about four fifths of French believe France is in decline and a quarter believe this is irreversible, the usual figures.

Among party supporters, Macronists are the only one for whom a majority (52%) believe “France is not in decline.” This makes sense as Macron supporters tend to be the highly educated high-earners of the managerial class, people who benefit from the globalization of the French economy and are mobile enough to seize the opportunities offered by multinational corporations.

When asked to name their top 3 issues, the French most cited often crime (46% up from 28% last year), the welfare system’s sustainability (42%), the environment (41%), and purchasing power including salaries and taxes (39%). Noteworthy: conservatives (supporters of the center-right Les Républicains [LR]) are significantly more likely than nationalists (Marine Le Pen’s Rassemblement national [RN]) to cite crime as a problem (72% to 58%). Both groups agree immigration is a major problem (58% and 64%, respectively).

Two thirds of French consider that “There are too many foreigners in France,” a very consistent finding since 2013. This sentiment is concentrated among conservatives (84%) and nationalists (95%). This is the defining and unifying issue for the French Right. Similarly, since 2013 over 60% of Frenchmen have consistently said that “Today, we don’t feel at home as we did before.”

While Macron has throughout his presidency consistently supported the creation of a larger EU budget and a strengthening of Brussels’ powers, 65% of Frenchmen believe “We need to strengthen our country’s ability to take decisions even if this would limit the EU’s.”

The Franco-German push to create common EU debt has indeed led to the establishment of a 750-billion-euro EU stimulus fund to restart the economy after the coronavirus recession. The fund will particularly target southern Europe, which has been economically devastated, but will inevitably come with innumerable strings attached: “EU governance” and “peer-pressure” will constrain national policymaking and seek to enmesh national elected politicians in a web of bureaucratic procedures, previous commitments, and transnational committees. These will of course also ensnare France.

Nonetheless, a majority of French think EU membership is a good thing.

While the French are skeptical of globalization, their social values are highly variable, sometimes conservative-authoritarian, sometimes liberal-progressive. Around two thirds of Frenchmen say that “In France, things were better before.” Over 80% of Frenchmen continue to believe that “We need a real leader in France to restore order” and that “Authority is a value which is too often criticized today.” Support for the death penalty is apparently increasing, rising to 55% today.

At the same time, 69% consider French society to be “patriarchal” and the French are more or less evenly divided on whether feminist movements have “gone too far” or not. Some 82% of French consider that “racism” has a significant presence in France, 57% believe it is increasing, and 55% say there is racism in the police.

The most consistent trend is probably the rise and fall of support for globalism that coincided with Macron’s election.

Yellow: “Globalization is a threat to France.” Blue: “Globalization is an opportunity for France.”

The Macronist parenthesis – the promise of a jeune et dynamique president breaking through the old party system – has not lastingly affected French opinion, which is one of basic suspicion towards globalization. Indeed, if anything Macron has presided over an emerging protectionist consensus, with 65% of Frenchmen saying “France must protect herself more from the world of today.” Only 35% say “France should open itself up more to the world of today.”

The party-supporters most in favor of “protection” are the nationalists (87%) followed by the conservatives (77%) and the leftists of La France insoumise (“Unbowed France”) and the French Communist Party (62%).

The polarization by class is consistent: managers are the most globalist (58% see it as an opportunity), while two thirds of employees, blue-collar workers, and retirees consider globalization a threat.

There has been a significant shift in favor of protectionism to promote French companies from 50% in June 2017 to 61% today. Indeed, with coronavirus Macron has openly for relocalizing industry in France and EU policymakers claim to want to restore Europe’s economic “strategic autonomy” relative to the United States of America and China.

However, curiously, conservative supporters are among those most in favor free trade (about half supporting, on a par with Macronists, and sharply differing with nationalists, who are overwhelmingly protectionist).

The French are united in their contempt for the political class. Confidence in political parties hovers around 10%. Some 57% of French said they supported moves towards direct democracy, on the model of a recent “citizen’s convention” of citizens drawn by lot who drafted various environmental proposals (in fact, this convention was presided over and shepherded by apparatchiks close to the Greens and the Socialists). The pollsters decided to illustrate this finding with this pie chart:

This is not unusual, French and EU political and media class loves these kinds of illustrations. In their mind, the majority of the French population is already made up of wholesome people of color. And, our elites subliminally add: it’s already worked out really well so far, so what are you complaining about? (Pay no attention to the concrete blocks we’ve put up around our Christmas markets, the bulletproof glass around our monuments, or the recurring Islamists terrorist attacks and more humdrum day-to-day violence and homicide, discussing which all merely play the cynical game of the Far-Right.) We cannot overestimate how untethered our “elites” have become from reality.

Can a force arise to oppose globalism in France? Probably not in the immediate. Despite Marine Le Pen’s years-long efforts at rebranding to be as innocuous as possible, around 55-60% of French consistently consider her party to be “dangerous for democracy” and “xenophobic.” This figure also applies conservatives by the way, who should normally consider nationalists their natural allies.

Le Monde, which co-commissioned the poll, tried to spin it as conservatives falling for “its most reactionary fringe socially and societally and ultraliberal on economic and environmental questions.” I again invite you to imagine the office-dwelling humanoid that produces such clickbait. In fact, there is nothing new about French conservatives being sensitive to themes the mainstream media considers “far-right” and center-right politicians, whether Jacques Chirac, Nicolas Sarkozy, or even Valéry Giscard d’Estaing, have often played to these themes during their careers, though only rarely acting upon them when in power.

As is tradition for French presidents, support for Macron collapsed shortly upon taking office, now having an approval rating hovering around 33%. In my estimation, he still has time to recover before the 2022 presidential elections. Still, the way things are going, we may see the French politico-media System jettison him in favor of a new marketing exercise: he will fall to a Green candidate leading a reconfigured left-wing/centrist coalition. The Green campaign will be inspiring, it will involve idealistic youth, and will grow organically with the support of the para-governmental NGO class and various center-left party hangs. The script practically writes itself

Chart of the two-dozen oligarchs and State entities which own the bulk of the French media landscape.
Chart of the two-dozen oligarchs and State entities which own the bulk of the French media landscape.
 
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  1. neutral says:

    Probably safe to assume that France is a lost cause, it is too non white already and there are zero signs that the trend will reverse. Its only value is to warn the remaining hold outs that becoming a third world shit hole is the end state of all lands that were loyal ZOG states.

    • Replies: @John Regan
  2. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:

    Globalism in Europe doesn’t mean what it does in the US. “Globalism” to them means McCapitalism, US domination and the Anglicization of their languages.

    • Replies: @A123
  3. A123 says:
    @Anonymous

    SJW Globalism means the same thing in both places. Submission to Islam, mass immigration, replacement of Citizens, letting international corporations overwhelm local businesses. The UN/NWO pushes this SJW Globalism on both sides of the Atlantic.

    France may have a shot at fixing their problems. Their Muslim invader problem is self separated into sharia no-go zones. They have failed to corrupt the Gilets Jaunes movement, which still represents native French Citizens under assault by migration.

    The U.S. is in deeper trouble. The Islamic BLM movement is more wide spread. Ilhan Incest Omar is deeply involved in vote fraud (1). No one seems to care, as long as the illegal ballots are cast for Allah’s sexually deviant candidate.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/27/breaking-project-veritas-ballot-harvesting-minnesota/

  4. The majority of French think that their leaders suck, are traitors? That seems to be what the article implies. In point of fact, this is just more proof that the Western nations founding populations of Anglo-Saxons, don’t want massive multiculturalism and never wanted massive multiculturalism and yet, it is forced on them by an elite they detest. Something’s got to give sooner than later.

  5. Speaking as stereotyically as possible, the French can usually be counted upon to do what they think will irritate everyone else the most. It must be very confusing for them to have the US embracing a liberal globalist role but also be headed by a crass (nominal) beneficiary of populist nativism. Which trend can they best act like they’re superior to?

  6. polistra says:

    Nice to see that the French are still generally realistic and practical. They thought more globalism was worth trying. They tried it via Macron, and he showed them what globalism really does. They learned the lesson.

    Americans aren’t capable of learning from experience. Our Deepstate has turned everything into totally idiotic partisan teams and brands, with no change or learning on either “side”.

  7. French people are definitely dissatisfied with the way they are governed and not aligned with their governing elite on key topics such as immigration and crime, for which they have been in favor of a tougher/more repressive stance for decades.
    There is also a gap with regard to Europe and free trade, but here French public opinion is incoherent since they really want to keep the Euro.
    Will this gap result in electoral realignment? Maybe but who knows because it has existed for a while. In fact, no President in position of power has been able to gain reelection since De Gaulle in 1965. Mitterrand and Chirac won reelection as President in 1988 and 2002 after losing parliamentary elections and running against the Prime Minister on the opposite side who was the real head of government.
    Chirac was elected in 1995 by opposing Balladur the Prime Minister also from the Right, and Sarkozy was elected in 2007 by presenting himself as an alternative to Chirac. Sarkozy did not manage to be reelected in 2012 and Hollande didn’t even try in 2017.
    For the last 40 years, French voters have in majority chosen to express their dissatisfaction with the outgoing majority, but failed to get any real change. Maybe we are just a bunch of conformists who like to rant and vent.

  8. There is a fundamental difference in the immigration debate between France and the USA. It is not related to the US being “a nation of immigrants” because France has had significant immigration since around 1850 and also operates under a dominant universalist ideology (probably even more so than the US especially for extra-Europeans including Blacks).

    However, immigration to France is largely Muslim, fairly low-skilled and driven largely by welfare (the flows don’t vary much with the economic cycle contrary to immigration to the US which at some points even reversed: welfare remains irrespective of the unemployment rate so third world immigrants keep coming).

    Immigration is therefore clearly a net negative for the native French population, and most people can see it, even in the face of constant propaganda and pseudo-expertise deployed by the French media to convince us that otherwise and not to trust our lying eyes.

    An evolution similar to the change in American public opinion towards more positive views of immigration (which the MSM achieved during the Trump era, admittedly with massive amount of propaganda and hysteria) would seem unlikely in France.

    But who knows? As De Gaulle said “les Francais sont des veaux” (“French are like calves” i.e. apathetic and conformist). Maybe they can be convinced to continue to go quietly towards the slaughterhouse.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  9. Sarkozy was elected in 2007 by presenting himself as an alternative to Chirac

    Nope. Sarko the Hook-Nosed Runt-Goblin was installed so that Chirac would be protected from prosecution for the ~150m€ that Chirac had helped divert/embezzle while mayor of Paris.

    Chirac wasn’t even a candidate in the 2007 poll, so Sarko le nabot méchant could not have presented himself as an ‘alternative’ – and he was part of Chirac’s hard-liners.

    The French elites knew that the PS had abundant evidence incriminating Chirac, and senior PS cadre longed for the day when he no longer had Presidential immunity.

    If Royale had won in 2007, Chirac would have been prosecuted in 2008: he would have a choice – spend his twilight years in shame (and incarceration) or name names. This had the big-money families concerned – I am certain they entertained the notion of organising Chirac to have a heart attack, but a less-extreme way was found.

    Sarko – with his deep, career-long ties to organised crime – and his mate Hortefeux, could be relied on to pressure Procureurs to leave the Chirac file in a drawer. They figured that they could put the Runt-King into the Elysée for 2 terms, by which time Chirac would fade from the field).

    Sarko being Sarko, he managed to alienate everyone on Earth, so by 2012 Sarko was so deeply unpopular he was certain to lose re-election (and PS was still after Chirac).

    Big Money made it clear to Hollande that unless he toed the line on Chirac, all the money would go to Bayroux’s ‘new’ MoDem… PS would be destroyed as a force in French national-level politics for a generation (not that a scumbag like Hollande gave a shit about the PS: he was always about himself).

    An alternative option was presented: if he (Hollande) promised to behave himself and not go after Chirac, Hollande could have a go as Boss of France – which appealed to his pathetic ego.

    Hollande bent the knee, and Bayroux’s campaign detonated in a fortnight of wall-to-wall negative media.

    As it was, Hollande was completely incompetent – a characteristic of his entire life – and even the ‘gravitas’ of the Presidency did not protect him from being an object of national and international ridicule.

    By 2017 it was clear that Hollande had rendered himself un-re-electable; PS still wanted Chirac’s head on a pike; UMP was still reeling from the massive unpopularity of le nabot méchant (nez cochu)…

    So a ‘safe hands’ new party was vomited into being, complete with a vanilla-metrosexual technocrat with impeccable Grandes Écoles credentials (Micron‘s gross gerontophilia was only whispered about, and his backroom preference for Dark Meat was kept well out of the public eye).

    2019 the career grifter and criminal Chirac was dead, and so no longer a problem. Macron is therefore no longer required: he will be gone in 2022; “En Marche” will cease to exist as a political entity, and French national-level politics will revert to PS vs FN.

    French politics is easy to understand if you know where the people involved come from.

    • Thanks: Alfred
  10. Tusk says:

    While polls are nice and a good sign the trouble, as always, is turning this into real action. I wouldn’t say I am despondent, considering that this is realistically how democracy does function, but considering the disconnect between the people’s views and tangible action a resolution does not seem forthcoming. The elite are too rooted in the power structure to be displaced even with 3/4 people against them.

  11. Exile says: • Website

    Apparently Diversity + Proximity = Noticing as well as war.

    Absent Orwellian social control, the nations with the most experience with “multiculturalism” are the ones with the least enthusiasm for it after they get a taste.

    France apparently has less effective or comprehensive Ministers of Truth and Love than Cuck Island (aka Britain) or the poor Germans, still bleeding from the lash of Zion after generations of goy-groveling for crimes no one ever committed.

    I’m frankly embarrassed at how ignorant I was as a neo-con U.S. patriotard in the 00’s gobbling up Con, Inc’s rhetoric about “cheese-eating surrender monkeys.”

    The truth is that the French have proven to have more grit than most of the Continent or the Anglosphere when it comes to these issues. They may have fallen prey to naive enthusiasms but they seem to be snapping back fairly well and the Yellow Vest popular discontent is a better showing than most other White nations have made thus far.

    • Agree: Rosie
  12. @Kratoklastes

    Whether true or not – your post reads well – you should (be able to…) sell it to a crime writer. Micron made me laugh. I wonder why I haven’t read this before.

  13. @HyperDupont

    However, immigration to France is largely Muslim, fairly low-skilled and driven largely by welfare (the flows don’t vary much with the economic cycle contrary to immigration to the US which at some points even reversed: welfare remains irrespective of the unemployment rate so third world immigrants keep coming).

    German economist Hans-Werner Sinn has predicted collapse of the European welfare state.

    But who knows? As De Gaulle said “les Francais sont des veaux” (“French are like calves” i.e. apathetic and conformist). Maybe they can be convinced to continue to go quietly towards the slaughterhouse.

    Part of the problem is the perception of normalcy – food and other supply chains still run, people are busy watching their favorite sport or show on television, and there are lots of armed police around.

  14. @Kratoklastes

    Nope. Sarko the Hook-Nosed Runt-Goblin was installed so that Chirac would be protected from prosecution for the ~150m€ that Chirac had helped divert/embezzle while mayor of Paris.

    Sounds plausible. There is enough material on Chirac for a gangster movie.

    Most outsiders have a romantic and shallow view of France. They just think food, tourist attractions and help during the War of Independence.

  15. However, curiously, conservative supporters are among those most in favor free trade (about half supporting, on a par with Macronists, and sharply differing with nationalists, who are overwhelmingly protectionist).

    Apparently Orléanists will always be Orléanists.

  16. @neutral

    France’s political system is almost uniquely rigged against anti-establishment parties, with their second-round voting and various other “democratic” hoaxes. The CIA and their quislings designed it that way after WWII to keep the very popular French Communists out of power, but it’s worked just as well to keep down the National Front.

    Now that the old Front has gone full cuckservative, of course, it probably won’t matter even if Marine Le Pen (or whoever) is indeed somehow elected.

    Despite this, the French people shows slightly more spirit than their compeers in America. Notably, they had the last right-wing military coup against democracy so far in a “Western” country, back when De Gaulle was getting out of hand in the 1960s. Admittedly it failed, but at least they tried.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers_putsch_of_1961

    • Agree: Aristotle1
  17. E_Perez says:

    French politics is hopelessly incoherent, any analysis is a frustrating effort. This applies to both, public opinion and political decision making.

    Some examples:

    DeGaulle’s decision to give up Algeria was based on the conviction that maintaining millions of Arabs within France – Algeria then was two French departements – would modify the cultural and demographic structure of that white Christian country. But just a few decades later, the Arabs, unable to take advantage of the country’s natural resources and the huge infrastructure left by the French, invaded France by the millions creating no-go areas in all cities, without substantial opposition.

    Although it is well known that 1789 was one of the biggest and cruelest massacres in European history, the “French Revolution” is celebrated every year with great military parades in Paris and festivals in every French village.

    Although most French “de souche” disapprove third world immigration, they are proud of their all-black football team.

    The list of French political incoherencies is substantially longer.

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