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I recently had the pleasure of participating in a podcast with Fróði Midjord discussing the classic 1966 film by Italian director Gillo Pentecorvo, The Battle of Algiers. This was part of Guide to Kulchur’s excellent “Decameron Film Festival,” which is taking advantage of confinement to interview a range of prestigious speakers, from Jared Taylor to Alexander Dugin.

I will not repeat what I say in the show, except to say that I strongly recommend you watch the film if want to get a sense of how cruel and brutal race war in a multiethnic country can be.

The film’s message is ultimately pro-Arab, but Pentecorvo’s dedication to newsreel-style realism – what he called la dittatura della verità (the dictatorship of truth) – keeps the film straight, balanced, and brutally honest in its portrayal of Arab nationalist terrorism, intimidation, and abuse of trust. (Unlike say, Tom Cruise’s quite trite and saccharine The Last of the Samurai, though having a similar anti-Western nationalist message.)

The violence of the Algerian War belongs to our recent past: 1 million European settlers, supported for a time by the French State, faced off against 10 million Muslims led by the ruthless nationalist fighters of Algeria’s National Liberation Front (FLN). After eight years of struggle, and despite total military victory, France left Algeria and virtually all of those 1 million Europeans, who had been born and raised in Algeria, were forced to abandon everything and flee abroad.

This outcome was due to President Charles de Gaulle, who had made a strategic decision: France must cut her losses in Algeria rather than face perpetual conflict. In particular, De Gaulle did not believe that France could “integrate” as full French citizens Algeria’s Muslims, who in addition to numbering 10 million had a high fertility rate. He privately told an adviser:

It is very good that there are yellow French, black French, brown French. They show that France is open to all races and has a universal vocation. But on the condition that they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France. We are still primarily a European people of white race, Greek and Latin culture, and Christian religion.

Let’s not be under any illusions! Have you been to see the Muslims? Have you looked at them with their turbans and djellabas? You can see that they are not French! Those who advocate integration have the brain of a hummingbird, even if they are very knowledgeable. Try to mix oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. After a while, they separate again.

The Arabs are Arabs, the French are French. Do you think the French body politic can absorb 10 million Muslims, who tomorrow will be 20 million, after tomorrow 40? If we integrated, if all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria were considered French, would you prevent them from settling in France, where the standard of living is so much higher? My village would no longer be called Colombey-the-Two-Churches but Colombey-the-Two-Mosques!1

It’s striking how divided the Europeans were throughout the Algerian War, particularly between the settlers and the various actors of mainland France. The Europeans had a bad conscience. They quite naturally dominated Algeria, but their egalitarian ideology – stemming from the French Revolution – demanded that they in theory say that the 10 million Muslims, who faced systematic discrimination, would one day be fully-fledged French.

When De Gaulle had consolidated his position in power after 1958, he decided to allow Algeria to become independent through a referendum. The result was absolute chaos as the officers who had fought in the war launched a failed coup to prevent this. Then, military officers and numerous regular soldiers and settlers created the Secret Army Organization (OAS), launching a massive terrorism campaign to prevent the referendum against the Arabs and the French State (with numerous assassination attempts against De Gaulle himself).

The Muslims too were divided by ethnicity (Arabs, Berbers, Tuaregs . . .) and political clan. The FLN ruthlessly destroyed rival groups, settled scores within their organization through murder, and brutalized wavering villagers to side with them.

If I have one caveat about the film, it is the very Marxist/Third-World epilogue. In addition to being rather confused and brusque, it seems rather historically inaccurate. The film suggests that though the Arabs’ terrorist uprising in Algiers failed, the Algerian people spontaneously rose up as a kind of irresistible force, which the French had no choice but to bow to. In fact, the decision to leave was very much De Gaulle’s, even if we recognize the long-term pressures and costs of keeping Algeria French.

While De Gaulle may have left Algeria in part to keep France a racially and religiously homogeneous nation, this did not prevent mass migration of blacks and North Africans in the ensuing decades. During the War on Terrorism, The Battle of Algiers was screened by the Pentagon as an educational film on counter-insurgency. More recently, the numerous Muslim terrorists that have inflicted carnage and mayhem across Europe recall, by their social and psychological profile and their protection within the Muslim community, the characteristics of the FLN terrorists.

I invite you to watch The Battle of Algiers: I fear this film is not only about France and Algeria’s past, but also Europe’s future.

Recommended viewing:

For Francophones:

  • Debate between Colonel Roger Trinquier and Yacef Saadi (1970): fascinating discussion between a French military officer and an Algerian rebel leader who had both fought in the war (Saadi was also one of the actors and producers of The Battle of Algiers).
  • Peter Batty, La guerre d’Algérie (1985): detailed and fascinating five-part documentary by Britain’s Channel 4 with numerous interviews with participants and archival footage. I cannot find the original English version. This version was adapted into French by Belgium’s public broadcaster RTBF.

Notes

[1] Quoted in Alain Peyrefitte, C’était de Gaulle, (Paris: Gallimard, 2002), p. 66.

 
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  1. AaronB says:

    The Israeli Army borrowed the practice of punching holes through walls between buildings to avoid being exposed to gunfire in the streets from the French Army in Algiers, which pioneered the tactic.

  2. The French had no right to colonise Algeria and Algerian immigrants to France have no right to become French citizens and fail to integrate with French culture.
    Globalists are keen on mixing and homogenising the world while they claim to be defending diversity. The Algerians wanted their God given right to be independent and they should assume the consequences of the failed rule of the FLN while French nationalists have every right to defend their cultural heritage.
    Imperialist powers should start a dialogue with their former and current colonies for the purpose of reconciliation and to uphold the rule of international law which so far has been a facade rather than a reality.

  3. Matra says:

    I just watched the linked Pontecorvo interview/documentary. In it the Italian interviewer said that escalation began due to “French fascists” & others, referring to the bombing of the Casbah (1956) and that until then it was a “gentlemanly war”. Uh, no. The very first FLN attack in 1954 killed French school teachers – though I don’t think they were explicitly targeted – and there were hundreds of killings of Algerians deemed collaborators, such as local caids. Also the Casbah bombing, emphasised in the film, that supposedly ended the “gentlemanly” phase of the war, occurred a year after the massacres, plus rapes and mutilations, of scores of European civilians in the Philippeville area (August 1955). I remember Oliver Stone saying something similar on the DVD of this movie. Perhaps this movie is the source of a false narrative about the Algerian war.

    • Agree: JamesinNM
    • Replies: @buzzwar
  4. monsieur,

    you reminded me the work of fiction, the jackal, which might be based on true story.
    may i ask you,
    i. could the french have remained in independent, muslim-ruled algeria like boers of SA? would they have if they could? why not?
    ii. immigration to france/europe is normally explained by need of labor to rebuild ww2 destruction. is this true? after work visa expires, how did the workers turn into immigrants?
    iii. if the French abandon the Church, will not another sect or cult fill the void? can’t you see you are personally assisting such outcome?

    De Gaulle was certainly a wise man for bringing his people home. in the end, colonialism turned out to be terrible to the colonists too who invade and invite.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  5. songbird says:

    Wasn’t de Gaulle just talking out of both sides of his mouth? Didn’t he preside over the invasion of France in its early and most easily avoidable stage, when there was the proof of Algiers to know better? Wasn’t he just like Merkel saying multiculturalism has failed and then importing a horde?

    I read the book My Battle of Algiers a number of years ago. I thought it was interesting because I wasn’t very familiar with conflict. One point that the author made is that, contrary to many people’s emotional claims, torture works. Often just the threat of it is enough to get the type of people who tend to be involved in bombing to talk. If you get an address, then you can test it with surveillance. I suspect that terrorism also works, though nobody is willing to admit it either.

    One thing I’ve always wondered about the French colonies in North Africa is how much the Jews were involved and how many came to France afterward, having never been there before the colonies, or before the conflict with the Arabs. And also how much were they involved in the continued invasion process. I believe the propaganda film The Intouchables which romanticizes black Africans in France was created by Jews who arrived via the colonies. The film was just a rip-off of Driving Miss Daisy, but it was so wonderfully pozzed that Hollywood fell in love with it and did a remake.

  6. During the Algerian War , the favoured slogan of the Muslims was ” One Settler One Coffin”.

    As reciprocity is a time – honoured principle governing relations between peoples , should then the French Government apply it to their Algerian – descended immigrants ?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Iris
  7. “We are still primarily a European people of white race, Greek and Latin culture, and Christian religion.”

    De Gaulle was a very well read man. Notice, there is no mention of “Judeo-Christian” culture or religion. Europe is Greco-Roman Christian.

  8. Tusk says:

    People are now planting bombs in the tramways of Algiers. My mother might be on one of those tramways. If that is justice, then I prefer my mother.
    – Camus, 1957.

    • Agree: Niebelheim
    • Thanks: Guillaume Durocher
    • Replies: @Iris
  9. anon[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    The Berber queen Kahane was a Jew. There were plenty of Jewish Berbers. Until the Ashkenazi overthrow of Sephardim, the Jewish body politic was a diverse blend of various desert dwellers. We must remember the Jewish community in Herat was over 1000 years old before the recent evacuation.

    So, it is easy to see that Algeria was not merely infiltrated post 1492, but was humming with Sephardim before and after the expulsion. Thus we must remember that the Judenraht was well represented in the Algeria of De Gaulle, and no doubt moved onto fatter pickings in mainland France before the closing of the gates. Sponges don’t sink, and ticks follow a fat cow. Just like das Juden

  10. @anno nimus

    i. could the french have remained in independent, muslim-ruled algeria like boers of SA? would they have if they could? why not?

    In principle, yes, albeit in a highly insecure position. As things happened, there was far too much bad blood between the French and the Algerians by 1962. The Europeans realized by then their alternative was “the suitcase or the coffin.”

    ii. immigration to france/europe is normally explained by need of labor to rebuild ww2 destruction. is this true? after work visa expires, how did the workers turn into immigrants?

    Nah. I mean, initially, sure, but then came family reunification via the courts, the left, and the pseudo-patriotic right, etc.

    iii. if the French abandon the Church, will not another sect or cult fill the void? can’t you see you are personally assisting such outcome?

    Indeed.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Malla
    , @buzzwar
  11. @songbird

    Indeed. He did not, as far as I am aware, take measures to prevent further Afro-Islamic immigration to France.

    The film is quite clear that terrorism and torture both work.

    The 35,000 Jews of Algeria were made into French citizens through their co-ethnics’ lobbying by the Décret Crémieux of 1870. By 1962, these Jews numbered 200,000 and fled to France along with the Europeans.

    Indeed, the makers of Intouchables are North African Sephardic Jews. Many such cases!

    It must also be said that some of these Jews are “nationalist”: associating France with security and being understandably fearful of the Arabs/Muslims. I met one whose family had fled and, to this day, defended French Algeria and said that the Arabs could have been integrated (. . .). Éric Zemmour, the most “nationalist” pundit allowed on French television and who often says interesting things, is also of Algerian Jewish origin, his parents having come to France during the war.

    • Thanks: songbird
  12. While I think Battle of Algiers is a brilliant film, it is not ‘ straight, balanced, and brutally honest.’

    Most egregiously, in the opening act of the ‘battle,’ the Arab guerrillas are portrayed as attacking only soldiers and police. In fact, see Alister Horne’s classic history of the conflict, A Savage War of Peace: the guerrillas began by indiscriminately shooting any European male. I suppose they should get some credit for not shooting women and children as well, but…

    Then too, the bombing in the Rue Thebes, if I recall the name aright, is unequivocally shown as being carried out by the police. That’s possible, but in fact, no one ever did figure out who perpetrated that attack. Obviously, someone did, but it remains a genuine mystery. This portrayal of the police as the definite perpetrators serves a purpose: the subsequent Arab bomb outrages become justified retaliation.

    This is part of the problem with the ‘documentary’ style. One uncritically accepts what one is being shown as ‘fact.’ If the whole thing was a polished color film, with developed characters with home lives, etc, one would take the portrayal offered with a grain of salt: we know Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid existed, but no one would be shocked to learn that their characters and careers weren’t precisely as shown in the the Robert Redford/Paul Newman vehicle.

    Not so with Battle of Algiers. It’s assumed that this is how things were: the film is in black and white, shot in a documentary style: it is, therefore, ‘straight, balanced, and brutally honest.’

    No it’s not. It’s a good movie, but it has a pronounced and obvious bias, and it freely alters the facts to give that bias an aura of truth.

  13. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Basically, the disaster of French colonialism in north Africa – which, ultimately, will kill France, is the direct result of the rivalry against France’s ancient enemy and nemesis, England.

    The colonization of Algeria is of remarkably recent provenance, dating no further than the 1830s.
    Of course, England stripped France of the colonies that *really* mattered, Canada, India etc, and the long drawn out defeat of Napoleon – again due to England – and the dashing of hopes of a French run Europe – lead the meek and chastened France of the 1830s to seek the consolation prize of ‘national glory’ in north Africa.

    It’s a strange fact if history, that after France got entangled with England following the French invasion of 1066, England has been nothing more than a destroyer and nightmare for France.

  14. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Indeed.

    ? What does this mean? Do you intend to replace Christianity and its morality with some other belief system which is more suitable for an ethnonationalist project?

    • Thanks: anno nimus
  15. @Agathoklis

    Since the name France is derived from the Germanic Frank tribe, I’d leave some room for Germanic roots in French culture. In addition, French children used to be taught, “Nos ancetres, les Gaulois,” (Our ancesters, the Gauls.) Since the Gauls resisted the Romans, there’s also room for Celtic roots there as well.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  16. @Anonymous

    Didn’t Germany step into that role beginning in 1870?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Amerimutt Golems
  17. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Doesn’t really exclude enmity with Britain though, just think of the sinking of the French fleet at Mers-el-Kebir, something in the true spirit of Drake and Nelson.
    Also rivalry in the Mideast. There’s this book about it:

    I haven’t read it myself, but Peter Hitchens claims it includes interesting details like French support for anti-British Zionist terrorists in the Palestine mandate.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  18. @Diversity Heretic

    Didn’t Germany step into that role beginning in 1870?

    Even the Empire, Inc. after Eisenhower wounded Gallic pride by stopping the British, French and Israeli attack on Egypt over the Suez Canal. This is the reason de Gaulle pulled out of NATO.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  19. Malla says:

    The problem is that the elites are on the sides of the foreign North African infiltrators rather than the native French just like they were on the side of the FLN during the war in Algeria rather then the French Pied Noirs. It is even very likely that like most “independence struggles” in the Third World, the FLN was funded by Wall Street and helped by Commies.
    This website below is one of the best on the Battle of Algiers.
    From
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/5-battle-algiers.html
    “On September 30, 1956, the bomb offensive was launched. The objective was the heart of the European city. The devices that were placed in the Cafeteria on Michelet Street and at the Milk Bar killed three persons, and wounded fifty, twelve of whom had to have limbs amputated. In reprisal, the Europeans killed two Muslims. This was what Ben M’Hidi was seeking : to put blood and hatred between the communities. From October to December the horror increased daily. The attacks numbered a hundred and twenty-two by December 1956; that is four per day !

    Algiers could no longer bear it and shuddered each day with horror and fear. A third of the attacks were aimed at Europeans in an indiscriminate manner; the remainder was directed against Muslims.

    As in Indo China, then in all of North Africa, in accordance with Communist revolutionary war methods, armed groups went underground after a few meticulously prepared acts of terrorism, while in the cities the cells of extremist parties acted clandestinely to control the masses and organise sedition.

    « It is also indisputable that these insurrections were not the spontaneous movement of an entire people united against the French or European oppressor. A century-old public order reigned in Algeria – and still reigned widely – that the military or political weakness of France would have several times handed over to the mercy of the Muslims if they had unanimously detested her. It seems impossible to me to attach the least value to the Marxist schema of universal class struggle for Algeria, where an historical Arabo-Berber nation would have been oppressed and proletarianised by colonial capitalism…

    « From the beginning, the rebellion chose torture as the essential means of combat. It sought its power in the brutality of its massacres and plundering, acts that were capable of throwing immense zones of population into fear and horror for want of the ability to reach them by persuasion and enthusiasm. To this end it unleashed the sadism that lies dormant in every man and the barbarian fanaticism of the Muslim souls of the Maghreb. It is possible to count the acts of physical torture, but the number of acts of moral torture and blackmail that reduced people to a state of fear is impossible. And yet, this is the subject that is most important in the eyes of the moralist because it is what leads souls to abdicate their liberty and their honour. The Muslim who does not execute FLN orders, who works for the French, the man of the middle-class, the merchant who does not pay their contribution to the rebellion, the French, Italian or Spanish colonist who is too poor to abandon his isolated farm, like the North African in metropolitan France who is prey to racketeers or enjoined to leave for the maquis in the Aurès, all these poor people, theses hundreds of thousands of poor people know that they are condemned, and feel spied on… They live in anxious expectation of this minute of terror when fanaticism full of hatred would swoop down on them. If there are “ human persons ” to defend, it is these people.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  20. Malla says:
    @Malla

    However the French and Colonial forces defeated the terrorists but were betrayed later (which I will come to later).
    From
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/5-battle-algiers.html
    “Despite this “ blunder ”, the result of the repression on March 31, 1957 was spectacular : 253 killers and 1,574 agents were arrested, 88 bombs and 200 kg of explosives were recovered. The number of attacks dropped from 112 in January to 29 in March. In all the places where the rebel organisation had been dismantled, it was reported that Muslims spontaneously provided information. The population regained confidence, not in the generosity of the army, but in its firmness, that is, in its determination to keep the terrorists whom they had arrested under lock and key and to prevent them from doing harm. Many, however, were still waiting to see.

    As for the FLN leaders, though acknowledging their failure, they rapidly understood how they could put to good use the media campaign that was getting underway in metropolitan France.”

    However the Communist elite controlled brain washing Press in France began attacking the French forces in support of the FLN terrorists, backstabbing France as usual.

    from the above website

    “Relayed by Mandouze and Robert Barrat, by Claude Bourdet at France-Observateur, Beuve-Méry and Henri Marrou at Le Monde, Servan-Schreiber at the Express and by the communists at L’humanité, the campaign became more intense in March. It was out of the question for these newspapers to publish articles or photos about the massacres perpetrated by the FLN because, according to them, « it could shock the sensitivity of the French » (sic !)

    To an officer who proposed that he should go to Algiers in order to be able to talk about terrorism and its repression with full knowledge of the facts, Beuve-Méry, editor of Le Monde, retorted : « Me, go to Algiers ! Never. I want to keep the objectivity that distance permits. There, my judgement would be distorted. »

    Soon a « Spiritual Resistance Committee » was formed, where could be found mixed together priests like Fr. Pierre, the jurist René Capitant, the journalist Robert Barrat, the historian Charles-André Julien, the Islamologists Régis Blachère and Louis Massignon. They appealed that people fight « against the torture that the army and police services employed in Algeria ». The spirit of the Resistance was reviving ! They published a brochure entitled “ Recalled Soldiers Testify ”, even as there appeared the book by the Catholic writer Pierre-Henri Simon, “ Against Torture ”. It accused the French Army of having borrowed its ideas and methods from Nazi barbarity !

    As General Schmitt points out : « As far back as 1958, terrorists presented themselves before the courts as innocents who had confessed only under torture crimes that they claimed not to have committed. FLN officials had understood the advantage that they could take of the campaign against torture launched in metropolitan France. Two assistants of Yacef Saadi, Benhamida Abderrahmane and Zohra Drif had established a standard letter to be addressed to the public prosecutor in Algiers in order to lodge a complaint. Many copies of these form letters were discovered in caches of some ZAA officials who were arrested in September and October 1957. Once the climate changed, the false innocents of 1958 progressively became accusers. » 5

    They continued to accuse the French Army through their president, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, with the complicity of French leftists and progressivists.”

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Wally
  21. Malla says:
    @Malla

    The slimey politicians of France as well as the Church (full of Christian “progressives”) betrayed the French Army and supported the Terrorists.

    From
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/5-battle-algiers.html

    Behind an outward show of firmness, how many dishonest compromises there were behind the scenes ! Many facts prove the governments of Mollet and Bourgès-Maunoury were coming to terms with the rebellion. The most blatant one took place during the summer of 1957. The “ mission of good offices ” carried out by Germaine Tillion, a former resistant linked to the CNRS (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique). « It was difficult for my subordinates to understand the parallel activity of Madame Germaine Tillion », Massu noted. We can understand them : at the same time, dozens of bombs were exploding in Algiers. One does not negotiate with terrorists in full action !”

    …snip…

    “The treason of the political power is one thing. There existed, however, another one, just as scandalous : the complicity of the Church from the top to the bottom of her hierarchy, under tyranny of “ progressivist Christians ”.Thus, priests hid and abetted terrorists. Their enthusiasm went so far that they did not hesitate to compromise the Missionary Sisters of Our Lady of Africa in order to harbour Raymonde Peschard, who was being pursued by the 1st REP. When the Mother Superior, Sister Marie-Louise discovered through the newspapers what kind of a person she was sheltering, she decided not to hand her over to the paratroopers, but to transfer her to the White Sisters of Birmandreis, and then to the Poor Clares, from where she escaped to go underground.”

    More of this betrayal of the French Army and the Pied Noirs by the French political elites is explained in detail in the link below. The French won against the terrorists, they were betrayed by the elites.
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/7-great-betrayal.html
    THE GREAT BETRAYAL (1958-1961)

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  22. songbird says:

    Another curious part of the conflict was how young women who looked French were used to smuggle and plant bombs, near women and children who actually were French.

    Exactly from where they derived their ancestry is an interesting question with many possibilities. If any are alive today, it would be fascinating to track them down and give them a DNA test. One explanation of their lighter phenotype might be white slavery, but, of course, there are other possible explanations.

    Whatever the answer is, I think it weighs heavily on the often obnoxious question: who is white? This question can be answered easily – you need the phenotype, the culture, and the self-identification to be white. Swedes who think that anyone who isn’t a sub-Saharan is white are deeply deluded. Similarly, people who think Chechens are white are deeply foolish. I wouldn’t call Turks white either. And I don’t believe Bosniaks can be trusted not to twist the diversity knife for their own benefit.

  23. @Colin Wright

    Thank you for these clarifications!

  24. @songbird

    There’s plenty of phenotypic overlap between inhabitants of the Mediterranean’s southern and northern shores.

    • Agree: Niebelheim
    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  25. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:

    A strange thing about the Algerian war:

    I was born in year 1967, a few years after the end of the war, when obviously the story had more or less died out. Therefore I have no memory of the war being mentioned or talked about as a ‘big news story’, for whatever reason, UK TV and news media more or less completely ignored the aftermath of the war – compare and contrast to saturation retrospectives of Vietnam. If I didn’t read books, the whole debacle would have passed me by.
    Yet it was a big story, a very BIG story, which happened ‘the day before yesterday’

    Why?

    I can only surmise a general lack of interest in France and all things French by UK TV bosses.
    On the other hand, they are *obsessed* with all things American to the point of tedium.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  26. LondonBob says:
    @anon

    France was the main sponsor of Israel until LBJ came along.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Jake
  27. Jake says:

    France will repent of The Revolution and work to remake herself Eldest Daughter of the Church, and therefore an indispensable leader in rebuilding Christendom, or France will die.

    • Replies: @Pater
  28. Jake says:
    @LondonBob

    What? Israel never could have come to being without 2 nations: US and UK.

  29. @Diversity Heretic

    We Greeks call the French people, Galloi and the nation, Gallia which both directly reference their roots in Gaul so there is no room for Germanic roots whatever Germanic is supposed to mean.

    The idolisation of Celts as a people that actually contributed something to European civilisation is false. Name me one Celtic Epic poem, philosophy discourse or scientific tract?

  30. Hrw-500 says:

    @Guillaume Durocher

    Speaking of Algeria and Boutflika, what do you think of these French blog posts and videos from Bernard Lugan about Algeria?
    https://bernardlugan.blogspot.com/2019/03/le-dernier-stratageme-du-regime.html

    • Replies: @Iris
  31. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agathoklis

    We Greeks call the French people, Galloi and the nation, Gallia which both directly reference their roots in Gaul so there is no room for Germanic roots whatever Germanic is supposed to mean.

    Demented comment, as if the term Greeks use is automatically more important than what the French call themselves.
    Your Helleno-supremacism is ridiculous and tiresome, you’re like a mirror image of the most annoying kind of Jew.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  32. @Anonymous

    The French have also done a lot to destroy England directly and indirectly. You could also argue the French Revolution ultimately destroyed the English colonial project.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  33. My opinion is that Gilo Pontecorvo was a bit of a hypocrite. The premise of the film is: European settlers are oppressing the natives, who are “the people”- so, at the end, natives are right because, after all, it’s their land.

    Just- and Pontecorvo was Jewish: this is virtually the same with Jews & Arabs in Israel. I don’t know whether he denounced the very existence of Jewish Israel- I doubt it.

    Don’t get me wrong- I am not against settlers (French, Israeli Jews). Arabs are history’s backwater (forget about the Golden Age, it was long ago). What was realistically possible was a partition of Algeria, as is was the case with Israel & Palestine. That would have created enough tension between the French and the Arabs, leading to permanent war (as is the case with Israel) & thus prevent Arabs & other Muslims to migrate into France.

    You just cannot reason with Muslims & Africans. You have to keep them at distance. Let them have a nice life in their own historic lands- and stay there. Otherwise, nasty things will happen…

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @DinoN
  34. @Guillaume Durocher

    But there is little genetic overlap. It is ironic how the latest genetic research is upending Nordicist infantile fantasies often peddled by people like you, Guillaume. For example, we now know with a high level of confidence that modern Greeks are actually more northern than ancient Greeks due to probably some Slavic intrusion 1400-1200 years ago. The ancient’s skin were probably a little darker and definitely had mostly black/brown eyes and hair based on ancientDNA samples.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @Malla
  35. @Jake

    Israelis got from the French most of their arms and, basically, their nukes.

  36. Iris says:
    @Alastair Ross

    You have it spectacularly wrong: the reverse is true.

    Anybody with the slightest interest in the Algeria War knows that ” La valise ou le cercueil “ was the slogan of the OAS, the fringe of radical French settlers whose violence unfortunately led to the war.

    https://www.persee.fr/doc/diasp_1637-5823_2008_num_12_1_1149

    • Thanks: AnonStarter, bing0
  37. It wasn’t a fucking race war. How ridiculous. It was a separation of a colony from the mother country. Which is exactly, precisely, indubitably what the mis-named “American Revolution” was.

    • Agree: Iris
  38. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agathoklis

    How?

    The ‘English colonial project’ lasted another good 150 years – and reached its maximum extent a good hundred years after 1792?

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  39. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agathoklis

    My humble opinion is that the French kings, Napoleon etc would have loved nothing more than to rub out England for good – to neutralize and neuter her permanently, perhaps by imposing a permanent ‘puppet’ dynasty.
    The Spaniards attempted it, but the French, who know the English better than anyone in the world never cared to do this.
    Something about the English Channel scared them – for whatever reason – which ultimately must be the correct and rational one – that 20 miles or so of water was sufficient to intimidate and deter them.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    , @Dave Bowman
  40. @anon

    Actually, it has nothing to do with Helleno-supremacism or whatever. The French people are misguided because one small tribe conquered the vast majority of them and then imposed their name despite retaining the language of the masses. It would be more accurate to call the nation, Gallia as the predominant substrate are the Gauls.

    I am still waiting on evidence demonstrating the grand achievements of the Celts?

    • Replies: @Hudd
  41. @Anonymous

    The seeds of the French Revolution were sown in the minds of English colonial subjects. They would harvest over the next 150 years; and particularly, from 1950-1970.

  42. Iris says:
    @Tusk

    This quotation is wrong and translated incorrectly (as per the very late (1997) version of a Swedish speaker).

    During a press conference at Stockholm in 1957, Albert Camus was questioned in public by an Arab Algerian student, who asked why the illustre author was not denouncing the large scale institutionalised torture that was taking place in Algiers at the time, and later object of the film “The Battle of Algiers”.

    Camus, instead of justifying the crimes of the colonial system, which of course he did NOT support, replied verbally, witnessed at the time by French-speaking journalist Dominique Birman who was accompanying him and reported straightaway in leading newspaper “Le Monde”. The quote is still available in this newspapers’ archives.

    https://dicocitations.lemonde.fr/citations/citation-162951.php

    « J’ai toujours condamné la terreur. Je dois condamner aussi un terrorisme qui s’exerce aveuglément, dans les rues d’Alger par exemple, et qui un jour peut frapper ma mère ou ma famille. Je crois à la justice, mais je défendrai ma mère avant la justice. »

    I have always condemned terror. I must also condemn a terrorism that exerts itself blindly, in the streets of Algiers, and which could someday hit my mother or my family. I believe in Justice, but I would defend my mother before Justice”.

    Camus is saying two things:
    – that he always condemned terror but … thus unequivocally and clearly condemning the initial French terror attack in Algiers ‘ “Rue de Thebes”, which took 70+ lives and countless wounded, and to which Algerian FLN terrorism only replied.

    – that the Algerian insurrection is morally “Justice”, his own words.

    It is very little reported, but Albert Camus actually attempted to stop the war and reconcile the French and Arab communities by launching his 1956 appeal for a Civil Ceasefire.

    He tried to explain the content of his pacifist appeal in conference held in downtown Algiers. His pacifist initiative was supported by the Algerian Independence party (FLN), who sent delegates in support.. He was met by the French OAS settlers who tried to lynch him.

    This facts were reported by equally famous and fellow French Algerian author Emmanuel Robles, who was a witness accompanying Albert Camus all along the events. ( In Robles’ books “Les rives du fleuve bleu” and “Camus, frère de soleil“)

    https://histoirecoloniale.net/Albert-Camus-en-Algerie-la-treve.html

    So Albert Camus was NOT the colonialist supporter some blinded losers want him to be.

    Your comment is a good illustration of the sad state of the so-called Alt-Right, which neither is able to produce a valid ideology, nor even capable of understanding that produced by others.

    • Replies: @Tusk
  43. @Anonymous

    If we rewind back 120 or maybe 150 years, the British Empire was ahead of the French. However, today both nations are about neck and neck; and arguably, the French have more power due to their occasional political leadership of the EU.

    Who has fallen further in 120 or maybe 150 years? The answer is obvious. Both of them declined but the English and their oppressed appendages, the Scots and Welsh, have fallen from a much greater height.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    No it’s not. It’s a good movie, but it has a pronounced and obvious bias

    This is belly-dancing in front of a blind.

    Gillo Pontecorvo NEVER pretended to make a documentary. He was openly pro-Algeria, an Italian left-winger openly admiring the Algerian Revolution, got funding from the Algerian State to make his film, and even got the participation of a real leader of the Battle of Algiers, Yacef Sadi, who played his own role in the film.

    “The battle of Algiers” is not a documentary, it is not propaganda neither, it is an ideological film driven by sincere political values and depicting a Revolution under the director’s assumed positive outlook.

    Anything publicly assumed is honest and respectable . The same can be said of John Reed’s “Ten Days That Shook The World”, whether one agrees with Reed or not.

  45. songbird says:
    @obwandiyag

    Did they cut up women and children into little pieces in the American Revolution? Did twelve year old boys born in America turn on their English born friends and stab them to death?

    It was a race war – it is all the more obvious, as many of the Arab terrorists, at that time and place, were not particularly religious.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  46. Iris says:
    @Hrw-500

    Bernard Lugan is a “historian” who receives subsidies from the Kingdom of Morocco.

    The Kingdom of Morocco and the Popular Republic of Algeria are two neighbours which are parted by a century-long enmity as well as opposite political ideologies.

    They are both ancient nations which have fought literally over centuries, with stories of battles and betrayals going as far back as when North Africa was occupied by the Roman Empire.

    The Kingdom of Morocco has been ruled by royal dynasties since 788 AD, making it arguably the oldest surviving royalty in the world. It is inherently a feudal system, where only the aristocracy matters and the people do not.

    Conversely, Algeria is a populist and equalitarian nation, with long-assumed socialist ideology and an inherent, ancestral horizontal social organisation.

    The former has almost no resource, the latter was blessed by Nature with oil, gas, minerals, and the largest territory in Africa.

    Morocco is to Europe what Colombia is to the Americas: the main purveyor of illegal drugs. It is as a consequence an extremely Zionist-friendly country, for need of logistics and money-laundering.

    At the opposite of the spectrum, Algeria is, like Malaysia, one of the most vocal supporters of the Palestinian people, and openly considered an enemy by Israel and organised Zionists.

    Out of this two countries, Bernard Lugan chose to (1) take financial funding from Morocco, (2) and wipe out anything Algerian in every article he writes.

    Lugan is the Zionists’ useful idiot, at best; in my opinion, he is a joke I don’t even bother reading.
    He is hateful and extreme, and not representative of the majority of French people who are neither.

  47. Tusk says:
    @Iris

    Thanks for the correction. It’s simply a quote I read a while ago that it liked that I thought was on topic, so your deranged ranting about the alt-right is simply embarassing. I have always interpreted it as he prefers his mother to justice, at the same time he would prefer his mother to Algeria.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Guillaume Durocher
  48. anon[230] • Disclaimer says:

    I strongly recommend you watch the film

    I agree. This is a great movie in its own right and has been used as a training film by everyone from the Black Panthers to the Pentagon.

    https://www.spyculture.com/pentagon-use-battle-algiers-training-film/

  49. bjondo says:

    Screw France and England.

    From before Battle of Algiers
    to present, both thugs are
    ruining the lives of others but cry
    for themselves like a blubberering Yid.

    Let the Muslims immigrate to both
    until the queerish BritFrogs’ knees
    meld into the ground a la Macron the Poodle.

    5 dancing shlomos

  50. @Iris

    I fail to see how we’re disagreeing — although I will point out that there is no necessary distinction between ‘propaganda’ and ‘an ideological film driven by sincere political values.’

    Nobody ever said propaganda can’t be sincere. In fact, it usually is.

  51. Iris says:
    @Tusk

    Spoken like a true Alt-Right ignorant clown; when proved wrong, they double-down.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  52. @Iris

    ‘“The battle of Algiers” is not a documentary, it is not propaganda neither, it is an ideological film driven by sincere political values and depicting a Revolution under the director’s assumed positive outlook.

    Anything publicly assumed is honest and respectable..’

    No — on reflection, it’s hardly honest. You seem to be overlooking the outright lies Pontecorvo purveyed.

    The ‘good’ Algerian revolutionaries did not start out by attacking just French police and soldiers. Nor was it ever established who carried out the attack in the Rue de Thebes.

    One has to admit the change is critical, morally. Pontecorvo would have us believe the sequence was legitimate acts of war by ‘freedom fighters’ — terrorist attack by French authorities — justified terrorist retaliation by ‘freedom fighters.’

    Actually, the sequence was terrorist attacks by ‘freedom fighters’ — terrorist attack by unknown if presumably pro-French party — further terrorist attacks by ‘freedom fighters.’

    Say what you will about that. It’s not quite as morally cut-and-dried. Pontecorvo is lying. He’s purveying a sanitized, more morally comfortable version of the Algerian revolution than the one that in fact took place.

    • Replies: @Iris
  53. @songbird

    Yes, and yes, and don’t forget the horrendous American concentration camps and I mean that seriously. Get an actual history book. What do you think the American separation of colonies was? A cakewalk in the park with vanilla icing?

  54. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    Say what you will about that. It’s not quite as morally cut-and-dried. Pontecorvo is lying. He’s purveying a sanitized, more morally comfortable version of the Algerian revolution than the one that in fact took place

    I completely disagree.
    The fact is that colonialism, not matter by whom, is morally wrong and politically obsolete. Period.

    French colonialism in Algeria did not start with the terror attacks in Algiers, and the Algeria Independence War did not come out of the blue, but out of a long chain of abuse and massacres.

    I will quote two very symbolic ones:

    – The French colonial army notoriously “invented” the real gas chambers during the “conquest” of Algeria, by trapping entire tribes, dozens of thousands of people with their children, into natural caves and smoking them to death. This is no secret; Generals Pelissier and Cavaignac proudly boast about it in their letters, available to the public.

    – Indigenous Arab Algerians participated in very large numbers alongside the Allies, fighting in WW2. In May 1845, demonstrations were organised to demand political and citizenship rights on par with the sacrifices made during WW2. The colonial administration replied by a violent repression which claimed 45,000 Arab lives, a crime that acted as a catalyst in radicalising militants and creating the organisation that launched the independence war ten years later.

    The 1960’were a time where people had strong political ideals and beliefs. The Algerian revolution was sincerely supported by two categories in particular within continental Europeans: militant Catholics and militant Leftists. Pontecorvo belonged to the latter.

    • Troll: Malla
  55. @Anonymous

    Basically, the disaster of French colonialism in north Africa – which, ultimately, will kill France, is the direct result of the rivalry against France’s ancient enemy and nemesis, England.

    Not entirely. French conquest of Algeria was at least in part a response to the same practices that led to the earlier American war against the Barbary pirates. Local despots made a practice of raiding Mediterranean shipping, holding the captives to ransom or selling them into slavery. This might be avoided by paying “tributes” (protection money) to these rulers. According to Wikipedia,

    “The scope of corsair activity began to diminish in the latter part of the 17th century,[5] as the more powerful European navies started to compel the Barbary States to make peace and cease attacking their shipping. However, the ships and coasts of Christian states without such effective protection continued to suffer until the early 19th century. Following the Napoleonic Wars and the Congress of Vienna in 1814–15, European powers agreed upon the need to suppress the Barbary corsairs entirely and the threat was largely subdued. Occasional incidents occurred, including two Barbary wars between the United States and the Barbary States, until finally terminated by the French conquest of Algeria in 1830.”

    French colonization of Algeria was a manifestation not of imperialistic ambition but rather one of softness and misplaced compassion. The Romans would not have made such a mistake, choosing instead to kill or enslave the Barbary pirates as they had done with the Carthaginians. However, even in 1830 France believed in its “mission civilisatrice,” and hoped it might elevate and improve the people of its new colony. Rather than slaughter them, for decades it attempted to educate young Arabs and Berbers as if they were French children. Today France must bitterly repent such folly.

    • Replies: @Alden
  56. @Agathoklis

    That’s very interesting. It leaves open the question of why modern Greeks – who behave very much like an intermediate population between Europeans and Mideasterners (with their clannishness and corruption) – have proven so much less gifted than their illustrious predecessors.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    , @LondonBob
  57. @obwandiyag

    The pieds-noirs were the equivalent of the American colonists. The Algerians are the Amerindians in this comparison, people who, if memory serves, were annihilated by the Americans.

    • Replies: @Alden
  58. @Tusk

    Camus never supported an independent Algeria. He also wanted peace and a non-colonial regime, which understandably led radical leftists to consider him a wet.

    • Thanks: Tusk
  59. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agathoklis

    As a Greek, you should know by now that the EU is a crock of shit which is only serving to impoverish and stagnate Europe – and, oh, by the way, import as many blacks to Europe as possible.

    One day, too late, alas, Europeans will wake up and realise this.

    Brexit was the best decision ever.

    I have no doubts and no regrets.
    I have *never* ever been more confident about any political decision in my entire lifetime.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  60. Anonymous[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    Actually, one justification for the original French intervention in Algeria, back in the 1830s, was to clear out, once and for all, the actions of Algerian Muslim slavers attacking French shipping in the Mediterranean and enslaving Christians.

    Yes, really.

    As recent as 1830.

    On a related note, the first overseas military ventures of the USA – which originally stuck to isolationism as a religious dogma – was to clear out nests of north African Muslim pirates who were enslaving peaceful American sailors and traders.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  61. @Iris

    ‘I completely disagree…’

    You say you disagree — but nothing you then say contradicts anything I had said.

    • Replies: @Iris
  62. @Bardon Kaldian

    I had not realized Pontecorvo was Jewish. Thanks for the information!

    • Replies: @glib
  63. @Jake

    ‘What? Israel never could have come to being without 2 nations: US and UK.’

    Three nations.

    Add Germany. Absent the Holocaust, Israel never would have been viable.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Vaterland
  64. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    and despite total military victory

    Yes, like AmeriKKKa’s “total military victory” in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan… yeah?

    Anyway, the Wiki does not appear to paint a picture of the utter decimation of the FLN;

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War

    de Gaulle’s government began secret peace negotiations with the FLN

    But then, what can be expected of soulless whitrash scum who still delude themselves of their exceptionalism?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Adûnâi
  65. Anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Thinking a bit further on this theme, I cannot but help notice that if the French colonialists of Algeria in the 1800s were as ruthless, determined and tough as the English colonialists of north America in the 1700s and completely extirpated and drove out the Arabs from their native land, then the whole Algerian adventure would have been not just a success but an enormous unmitigated success. The fit between Algeria and European France across the Mediterranean is just *too* good.
    And we must remember that compared to the French in the 1800s the Algerians were very few in number, with no industrial production to speak of.

    Surely, there’s a moral here somewhere.

  66. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    The only ‘whitrash scum’ are the shitcunts who run Europe – and invite people like you into Europe *AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE ETHNIC EUROPEAN PEOPLE*.

  67. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    He [De Gaulle] privately told an adviser: … …

    As that pagan scum died, as his rotten soul was violently sucked out, at that moment when he was made aware of his godlessness, that was when he came to know how his soul will burn for all Eternity.

    Take heed of the highlighted verse below, pagans. How much you pagans must regret/envy that the polytheist Trinity isn’t as indisputable as the true monotheist Tawheed. Your cursed supremacist ideology cannot bring yourselves to reconcile to the fact that the perceived “inferior” race has comprehended the truth, while you still wallow in your pagan disbelief.

    Evil is that for which they have sold their souls, that they should deny what Allah has revealed, out of envy that Allah should send down of His grace on whomsoever of His servants He pleases; so they have made themselves deserving of wrath upon wrath, and there is a disgraceful punishment for the unbelievers. [Holy Quran 2:90]

    Ultimately, most of you will find that to be born white-skinned has been a curse. Why? Because most of you will die, denying the Oneness of God, with Paganism and Godlessness in your hearts.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Troll: Iris
  68. @Guillaume Durocher

    Likewise, you could say some similar things about the modern French. Their achievements are Islamic mass migration, homosexuality, smoking, French ‘philosophy’, homosexuality, pederasty, record breaking Smurf festivals, homosexuality, homosexuality; and guess what, homosexaulity.

    The Alt-Right will never achieve anything when their so called writers/thinkers like Durocher peddle Nordicist theories that are easily refuted by science.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @dimples
    , @Dave Bowman
  69. @Anonymous

    I agree wholeheartedly but up to a point. Unfortunately, Brexit came about 30 years too late. Sadly, your traitors are already well entrenched in Britain so whether you had Brexit or not, the result will be the same, the slow extinction of the English ethnos.

  70. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agathoklis

    Ancient Greeks were also big proponents of pederasty.
    I think you’re mostly right about the genetics of ancient Greeks who were mostly descended from the pre-Indoeuropean population, certainly not Nordics in any sense (also interesting question how big the cultural legacy of the pre-Indoeuropean population was, I’ve seen claims that it was quite significant, despite the change in language). But man, are you annoying with your constant harping on Greek achievements from two millennia ago. Sorry, the last few centuries of Greek history haven’t been that impressive. That’s not all the Greeks’ fault (you’ve got some horrible neighbours after all), but certainly should put a dent in your superiority complex.

  71. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    Thinking a bit further on this theme, I cannot but help notice that if the French colonialists of Algeria in the 1800s were as ruthless, determined and tough as the English colonialists of north America in the 1700s and completely extirpated and drove out the Arabs from their native land, then the whole Algerian adventure would have been not just a success but an enormous unmitigated success

    The French colonial enterprise in Algeria started in 1830, and it took about 17 years to crush the local nationalist military resistance, with the symbolic surrender of its leader Emir Abdelkader.

    In the meantime, millions of Algerians were directly or indirectly killed, by fire or expropriation, with some Anglo-Saxon accounts estimating that by 1847, the indigenous population had dropped from 9 to 2 millions.

    The remainder was not exterminated by the colonial administration because a cheap workforce akin to slavery was indispensable to extract wealth from the colony. Algeria’s main wealth at the time was its legendary agricultural potential (it used to be called the bread basket of the Roman Empire).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @eggplant
  72. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    Nobody ever said propaganda can’t be sincere. In fact, it usually is.

    Western journalists know very well that it is morally wrong to blow up the legs of Palestinian kids. They still report about the IDF’s “grandeur” and magnanimity because they would lose their jobs otherwise.

    Pontecorvo and his fellow 1960’s political militants, on the other hand, genuinely believed that the Cuban, Vietnamese, Algerian revolutions were just and glorious; they promoted and supported these inserructions in many ways, not for the money but because they believed in an ideology.

    Today, this is a burning question that is more with us than ever. Those who applaud the rise of Russia and China are called stooges and shills, as if the only reason they could do so would be for the money.

    What their critics fail to see is that the American Century, which with the fall of the USSR culminated in Judeo-Protestant “values” dominating the world, is now abhorred and rejected by millions whose aspirations are more spritual, collectivist, patriotic, ethical. These are the one who produce “sincere” propaganda, but the West has lost even the ability to identify and recognise it.

  73. @Iris

    ‘In the meantime, millions of Algerians were directly or indirectly killed, by fire or expropriation, with some Anglo-Saxon accounts estimating that by 1847, the indigenous population had dropped from 9 to 2 millions.’

    That’s the sort of lurid nonsense that simply discredits the original, possibly valid point that the enterprise itself was immoral — at least by our standards. It’s no more credible than Adam Hochschild’s silliness about how ten million Congolese were murdered in King Leopold’s Congo Free State.

    Of course the population of all Algeria didn’t drop to 22% within seventeen years of what it had been seventeen years earlier on account of a rather limited colonial war. That’s utterly improbable. Transparently, one methodology and set of data was used to obtain the first figure, and a different methodology and set of data used to obtain the second.

    Now all you’ve done is undermined whatever other, perfectly valid points you might have had to make about the qualitative nature of the French colonial project itself.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @utu
  74. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    Of course the population of all Algeria didn’t drop to 22% within seventeen years of what it had been seventeen years earlier on account of a rather limited colonial war.

    More sophistry.

    As I said, Anglo-Saxon sources produce the most extreme assessment of demographic losses of the Algerian population to 7 millions, historian Henri Alleg sets a figure at about 5 millions over the entire colonial period, while most contemporary sources agree that at least 3 million disappeared between the 1830 conquest and the 1872 census.

    So, in any case, a genocide with an average death toll of 5 millions represents an extremely large chunk of an indigenous population which had barely reached 9 millions by 1954.

    • Replies: @fnn
    , @Colin Wright
  75. @anonymous

    Probably a Jew larping as a Muslim. Jews have a fantatical hatred of the Christian trinity and believe that their version of monotheism is much spiritually superior.

  76. fnn says:
    @Iris

    During the Cold War mainstream sources stated that the Soviet Union killed 66 million or more. Then the Cold War ended and today the death toll has been adjusted to about 15 million. If the hostility to Russia continues, I expect the numbers to start creeping up again.

  77. Malla says:
    @Agathoklis

    Name me one Celtic Epic poe….

    Very interesting that I came across a book today. Very interesting. Yeah it is about Greek poetry and Balts, not Celts but Balts.

    The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Tales: The Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Migration of Myth Paperback by Felice Vinci

    Compelling evidence that the events of Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey took place in the Baltic and not the Mediterranean

    • Reveals how a climate change forced the migration of a people and their myth to ancient Greece

    • Identifies the true geographic sites of Troy and Ithaca in the Baltic Sea and Calypso’s Isle in the North Atlantic Ocean

    For years scholars have debated the incongruities in Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, given that his descriptions are at odds with the geography of the areas he purportedly describes. Inspired by Plutarch’s remark that Calypso’s Isle was only five days sailing from Britain, Felice Vinci convincingly argues that Homer’s epic tales originated not in the Mediterranean, but in the northern Baltic Sea.

    Using meticulous geographical analysis, Vinci shows that many Homeric places, such as Troy and Ithaca, can still be identified in the geographic landscape of the Baltic. He explains how the dense, foggy weather described by Ulysses befits northern not Mediterranean climes, and how battles lasting through the night would easily have been possible in the long days of the Baltic summer. Vinci’s meteorological analysis reveals how a decline of the “climatic optimum” caused the blond seafarers to migrate south to warmer climates, where they rebuilt their original world in the Mediterranean. Through many generations the memory of the heroic age and the feats performed by their ancestors in their lost homeland was preserved and handed down to the following ages, only later to be codified by Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey.

    Felice Vinci offers a key to open many doors that allow us to consider the age-old question of the Indo-European diaspora and the origin of the Greek civilization from a new perspective.

  78. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    Ultimately, most of you will find that to be born white-skinned has been a curse. Why?

    May be you, oh blessed believer in the Abrahamic faith, believer in the one true good, pure and holy, should take a spiritual journey to find out the the original meaning of the word Adam, yes Hazrat Adam, the first prophet of Allah. Becuz see, in Hebrew, the meaning of Adam means “Ruddy”, “White skin with rosy cheeks”.

  79. Malla says:
    @Agathoklis

    For example, we now know with a high level of confidence that modern Greeks are actually more northern than ancient Greeks due to probably some Slavic intrusion 1400-1200 years ago. The ancient’s skin were probably a little darker and definitely had mostly black/brown eyes and hair based on ancientDNA samples.

    That may be true but there were (maybe a few, maybe many) light haired people in ancient Greece.

    In the work of Homer, Menelaus the king of the Spartans is, together with other Achaean leaders, portrayed as light haired. Although dark hair colours were predominant in the works of Homer, there is only one case of a dark hero, and that is when the blond Odysseus is transformed by Athena and his beard becomes blue-black. Other blond characters in Homer are Peleus, Achilles, Meleager, Agamede, and Rhadamanthys.

    [MORE]

    Menelaus was regularly described as having red hair.
    “There, red-haired Menelaus stood grasping his handy round-shield and his spear, ready to kill any man who tried to seize the corpse.”
    “But if red-haired Menelaus kills Paris, the Trojans must yield Helen and her riches”

    Demeter is described as “the blonde Demeter” in The Iliad (Canto V: 500) and in Hymn to Demeter (I: 302), based on the mysteries of Eleusis. Athena, the daughter of Zeus, goddess of wisdom, insight, cunning and strategic warfare in The Iliad, is described no more no less than a total of 57 times as “blue eyed” (in some variations, “green eyed”), and in The Odyssey a comparable number of times. Pindar referred to her as xanthus and glaukopis, meaning “blonde, blue-eyed.” Hesiod is content to call her “of green eyes” in his Theogony (15, 573, 587, 890 and 924), as well as Alcaeus and Simonides; while the Roman Ovid, in his Metamorphoses, which tells the perdition of Arachne, calls the goddess “manly and blond maiden.” Zephyrus, the progenitor of Eros along with Iris, is described by Alcaeus (VII-VI centuries BCE) as “golden hair Zephyr” (Hymn to Eros, fragment V, 327). Apollo is described by Alcaeus as “fair-haired Phoebus.” Phoebus is Apollo. On the other hand, Alcman of Sparta, Simonides (paean to Delos, 84), and an anonymous author, call Apollo “of golden hair,” while another epithet of his by Góngora, a Spanish author of the Renaissance, but based on classic literary evidence is “blond archpoet.” The famous Sappho of Lesbos speaks of “golden-haired Phoebus” in his hymn to Artemis. The god Rhadamanthus, son of Zeus and Europa, is described as blond in The Odyssey, and Strabo calls him “the blond Rhadamanthus” in his Geographica (Book III, 11-13). Artemis, the sister of Apollo, is described by Sappho and Anacreon (Hymn to Artemis), as “blond daughter of Zeus.”

    Pyrrha the mother of Hellen (the eponymous founder of the Hellenes) had red-golden hair
    (flavam religas comam) as described by Horace (Carm. i. 5) while her son Xuthus also derived his name from his fair hair (xanthe or xanthos). The ancient Greek lyric poet Pindar wrote that the hair of the Achaeans (Danaoi) was blonde (Nem. ix. 18). According to the renowned scholar Henry Liddell in his A Greek-English Lexicon (Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1940) xanthos is defined as a yellow, of various shades, freq. with a tinge of red, brown, auburn. The extent of ”the shade of” depends on the ancient Greek region or locality, since different shades of fair or yellow were known. An ancient fragment from Theophastrus for example reveals that the Spartans knew xanthon to be a whitish-yellow (e.g. fair or platinum blonde). Homer however applied xanthos to a range of non-dark hair colours: auburn to blonde, chestnut (reddish-brown) and fulvious (dull yellow) shades. Cambridge Ancient History (1928, vol. 2, pp. 22-23) thus defines the term xanthos as any fair shade short of a dark colour (e.g. blonde to auburn).

    Bacchylides wrote that the hair of the Spartans was blonde (Dith. xx. 2) while also noting of the golden hair of athletes at the Nemean Games (Ep. ix. 23). The Spartans were the Dorians (Heracleidae) who claimed descent from Heracles.
    Acording to Euripides, Heracles was yellow haired (Her. 234, 360 ff) while Pausanias (ix. 34. 5) describes his eyes as ”bright” e.g. light blue (charops). Baccylides also describes the hair of the Athenian foot race champion Aglaos as blonde. The poet Euripides himself is described of the fair type with freckles (Vita Eurip. 25f).

    The 7th century BC Spartan poet Alcman describes his cousin Hegesichora as golden (khrusos) haired (fragment 13. 54-55 Bergk) while the Spartan poetess Megalostrata as a ”blonde-haired maiden” (fragment 37. Bergk). Menelaus, the legendary ruler of pre-Dorian Sparta is called xanthos throughout Homer’s texts (Il. ii. 284; iii. 434; Od. i. 280; iii. 168) and this was a tradition that continued into late antiquity as Tatian in the 2nd century AD described Menelaus’ hair as flaxen yellow (Address to the Greeks, 10). Eustathius (c. 1115) in his commentary on the Odyssey wrote that: ”Rhadamanthys is golden haired, out of compliment to Menelaos, for Menelaos had golden hair” (Eustath. ad Hom. iv. 564).

    Sappho’s (who was of aristocratic origin) daughter Cleis is described as ”a girl whose hair is yellower than torchlight” (Sappho. fragment 98a). Furthermore Sappho’s eldest brother Charaxus is found described in Ovid as golden (flava) haired (Met. xii. 210). It seems then that although Sappho herself was brunette, most members of her family were in fact blonde which confirms the dominant blonde strain of the Greek aristoi. Critias, a noble Athenian oligarch and the uncle of Plato is also described as having blonde hair (Arist. Rh. i. 15. 1375b33; Proclus. On the Timaeus. i. 81. 27 Diehl). Aleuas the eponymous founder of the royal Thessalian Aleuadae family was as well fair haired (Schol. Apollon. Argon. iii. 1190). Ptolemy II Philadelphus was another blonde (Theoc. Id. xvii).

    The Greek tyrant ruler Dionysius I of Syracuse (d. 367 BC) had yellow hair and freckles (Val. Max. i. 7. 6). Aspasia (fl. 415 BC) a priestess from Phocaea and the favourite concubine of the Persian prince Cyrus the Younger was blonde haired, the ancient writer Aelian describes her as thus: ”Of hair yellow, locks a little curling… skin delicate, complexion like roses” (Varia Historia, xii. 1).

    “They say that the most amiable and beautiful amongst the Greeks was Alcibiades; amongst the Romans, Scipio. It is reported also that Demetrius Poliorcetes contended in Beauty. They affirm likewise that Alexander Son of Philip was of a neglectful handsomness: For his Hair curled naturally, and was yellow; yet they say there was something stern in his countenance.

    Pseudo-Callisthenes labels Alexander’s hair “lion-colored,” or as we might say, “tawny.”

    Pseudo Callisthenes 1.13.3 translation
    “For he had the hair of a lion and one eye was blue; the right one was heavy lidded and black, and the left one was blue; and his teeth were sharp as fangs, and he looked upon a defensive attack the same as a lion would.”

    Alexander: Invincible King of Macedonia describes Alexander in the following way:

    “He was below average height and of medium build, though tough and well muscled with a legendary iron constitution. His complexion was ruddy, and when exercised he face and chest would take a high colour. His hair is variously described as blond or tawny. It was thick, and he wore it swept back and to the sides to resemble, as many said, a lion’s mane. His eyes were said to be of different colours, one brown and the other gray or green. That alone would have arrested those who met him, but in the ancient world it was a magical sign of divine favor as well. What was truly magical was the look of the eyes. Contemporaries said they had a melting charm.”

    According to one historian there was something in his appearance that aroused fear.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  80. @Malla

    I vaguely recall, but I think a Spartan king- I forgot his name- at the end of the Peloponnesian War was also a ginger.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  81. Hegar says:

    During the Algerian War, socialists and churches united to attack France. As usual. As in South Africa, for example, or in Australia, where socialists and churches demanded an end to White rule and an end to Whites-only immigration, respectively.

    Socialists – their Marxist worldview written by a hostile race – hated the White expansion throughout the world. Churches had approved of it only as a way to spread, with the empires forcing the natives to become Christians. Once that was done, the priests and ministers, now living among the natives, demanded that they be allowed to rule the land built by Whites. Socialists used this Christian egalitarianism: “You said colonies were there to uplift the natives, right? Now they have laws and parliaments and roads and schools – and churches. They’re uplifted. What’s your excuse for staying?”

    Only nationalism had an argument for keeping the colonies and protecting the Whites living there.

    In 1975, the Moroccan government organized The Green March. 350,000 Moroccans, aided by Moroccan soldiers, marched into Spanish Sahara. Unarmed. The Spanish soldiers abandoned the border and removed the mine fields. Dr. William Pierce wrote that this was the end of the West. Western governments were no longer allowed a nationalist argument for keeping their possessions, only egalitarian arguments were allowed. Which meant you couldn’t fire at unarmed people. Everything else followed from this.

  82. utu says:
    @Joe Levantine

    “The French had no right to colonize Algeria…” – France had every right to do it. Northern Africa should have been recovered from Muslim colonists several centuries earlier. European kingdoms failed to be unified in Reconquista. They got distracted by the the discovery of the New World. And when they were ready for the North Africa it was too late; Europe lost its spiritual zeal. You can’t carry Reconquista under the slogans of liberté, égalité, fraternité.

    • Agree: Anonymous (n)
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Iris
  83. utu says:
    @Iris

    Gillo Pontecorvo (the son of a wealthy secular Italian Jewish family) and his brother (later known as Бру́но Макси́мович Понтеко́рво) were the enemies of European civilization. Gillo was working on the propaganda front and Bruno was stealing Manhattan project secrets for the Soviets.

    • Replies: @songbird
  84. utu says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Now all you’ve done is undermined whatever other, perfectly valid points you might have had to make…” – This is an unfortunate problem with Iris. Very high amplitude between quite reasonable and knowledgeable to extremely kooky.

  85. Svevlad says:

    All of these problems regarding immigration can be solved by using the so-called assimilation modifier

    How many generations does it take for a foreigner to fully assimilate? Cultural and racial distance is important here, as well as certain cultural traits. Assume that the nation encourages assimilation.

    For example, Germanics, all the Romance (except Romanians) peoples would assimilate in 1 generation. Culturally they’re very similar, and in appearance completely. Therefore the assimilation modifier is 1.

    East Europeans have a different culture and are wary of completely assimilating. Their assimilation modifier would be 2. Some MENA peoples like Turks and Caucasians would also be 2, probably, but high variance. Most MENA would be 3-4 due not only to the radically different culture, but a different appearance. Sub-saharans would be 4 at minimum, but the fortunate thing is that their culture tends to get strictly tied to appearance, so the more bleached they get, the more assimilated they are.

    Now, that’s just an example, I’m sure the numbers are different. But it would make setting immigration quotas ludicrously easy.

    Of course, don’t forget that the state needs to encourage assimilation as well

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  86. songbird says:
    @utu

    One seldom hears about Italian Jews, but I believe they must have formed much of the stem of the Ashkenazi. One wonders if it was the multicult empire of the Romans which was the original reason Jews were allowed to settle in Europe. Of course, some Jews claim that the Punic colony in Spain was full of Jews, which strikes me as doubtful.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Antoniog
    , @bjondo
  87. @utu

    “France had every right to do it. Northern Africa should have been recovered from Muslim colonists several centuries earlier. ”

    The clash of civilisation between Europe and North Africa is a long drawn one starting with the Punic wars where Carthage represented the softer side of colonialism through trade against Rome that sought total domination through brute force. However, Islam added the religious dimension to this cultural and political struggle with the European crusader’s failure to restore the Levant to Christendom being a watershed event that should have made Europeans realise that their drive to redraw Muslim countries into the fold of the Greek Latin culture as most unrealistic. Charles Martel, Ferdinand and Isabella were the zenith of European glory for having restored Europe from the clutches of Muslim invaders helped by the fact that they defended their own turf. The French tried to convert the Algerians to Christianity and failed miserably and Islam has proven through the centuries a remarkable resiliency when fighting as the underdog which makes me evaluate the French colonialist drive in North Africa and most Muslim countries as a bad investment. I should note that Lebanon was about the only country in the Middle East and North Africa that had a Christian majority and had proven to be France’s biggest colonial success.

  88. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svevlad

    I don’t want them to ‘assimilate’.

    I just want them to go home.

    • Agree: Malla
  89. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    It’s pretty much certain that the Ashkenazi ethnogenesis involved ancient Roman Italy in some deep and fundamental way.
    Of course, the Rhineland Jews were brought there by the Romans, but genetic studies seem to tell us that a Levantine type population mixed with locals in the Italian peninsula to form the Ashkenazim.

  90. Antoniog says:
    @songbird

    No , that was a subterfuge to not be asociated with the murder of jesus

  91. hhsiii says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think the real balance is from Col Mathieu, easily the most compelling character in the movie, with the best lines.

  92. I fear this film is not only about France and Algeria’s past, but also Europe’s future.

    Seeing this film recently, after witnessing Muslims employ the same terrorist tactics in Europe, I have to say I was cheering for the whites, contrary to the intentions of those who created this movie. When can we see the armies march into the no-go zones of Europe to reclaim our turf?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  93. @Anonymous

    ‘Actually, one justification for the original French intervention in Algeria, back in the 1830s, was to clear out, once and for all, the actions of Algerian Muslim slavers attacking French shipping in the Mediterranean and enslaving Christians…’

    I think that point’s worth noting.

    Without condoning the actions of the French, those who would make history into a morality play here seem to be oblivious to the fact that Algiers wasn’t exactly a good citizen herself.

  94. LondonBob says:
    @Agathoklis

    The Celts as such didn’t really exist, after all they supposedly lived in the British Isles, France and, bizarrely, the Germanic heartlands. Just a case of different peoples across Europe having the same design tastes for jewellery and the Romans not being sure of the tribes they came up against.

  95. LondonBob says:
    @Jake

    Sorry troll Britain opposed modern Israel, the US and Soviet Union had other ideas though. France supported but ultimately had no more say than Britain.

  96. LondonBob says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Civilisation was diffused from Mesopotamia, as each peoples acquired that learning they displaced the previous dominant culture. So Greeks supplanted the Levantines, the Romans them and then the Germans and Nordics after that. Early on, due to the climate, survival was the priority for the Northern peoples, however technological advances enabled a more diversified lifestyle in due course. Warmer climates are now doing better as air conditioning makes productive enterprise possible.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @Anon
  97. @Malla

    And where are the ruins of those ancient cities in the Baltics that pre-date the Greek civilisation, oh Malla, you Nordic supremacist with a darker hue from the subcontinent? The Nordics were barbarians at the time Athens and other civilised cities prospered throughout the Mediterranean, the Levant, Asia Minor, and North Africa as anyone and everyone can easily attest. People come up with kooky ideas all the time.

  98. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Rest Assured:

    The *SHITCUNTS* who run the west would have absolutely no hesitation whatsoever of turning the guns of the police, army etc on the white, with a shoot-to-kill policy, in order to ‘protect’ those who they really love and cherish, namely the blacks and browns.

    Be in no doubt about this.

    In extremis, they will turn thermonuclear devices on whites to defend ‘their people’.

    Have no doubt about this.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Anon
  99. JEANNOT says:
    @songbird

    Faut-il préciser que le film “les intouchables” est inspiré d’une véritable histoire sauf que le personnage noir est en faite un algérien, Abdel Sellou, ???

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @songbird
    , @RadicalCenter
  100. @LondonBob

    Sounds like a plausible part of the answer.

  101. Anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @LondonBob

    Graeco roman civilization spirit has as much relation with china as with egyptians even if some technic were imported

    And for the reason of greek underachiviment in the modern age there is one clear culprit; the turks that destroyed not only greece but all the balcans,the same moors did specially in south spain and asiatic tribes in far eastern europe.

  102. Iris says:
    @JEANNOT

    Merci pour l’info, Jeannot.

    Vous decouvrirez que les racialistes obsessionnels qui hantent ce site ne portent aucun interet a la science ou aux faits qui osent contredire leurs theories. Best.

  103. songbird says:
    @JEANNOT

    Should it be specified that the film “the untouchables” is inspired by a real story except that the black character is in fact an Algerian, Abdel Sellou?

    Ah, that is interesting – I did not realize that. It is my theory that blacks have higher signaling value due to their darker skin, so this explains why in movies Arabs are often replaced with blacks. It seems there is an Argentinian version called Inseparables which has removed the black. Perhaps, that is the one to watch.

    I’m guessing though that the makers of the French movie had seen Driving Miss Daisy. It received widespread acclaim, and there have been countless attempts to repeat the success with some variation on the formula, such as Green Book which is a partial inversion. Of course, in a vague sense that movie is also based on a “true” story, but the point wasn’t to tell the story accurately but to try to copy the success of Driving Miss Daisy. This can no longer be done in the US with the same type of formula, since black-worship has moved onto a higher plain and requires such types of stories as Hidden Figures or Black Panther.

    • Replies: @UK
  104. Iris says:

    How the Battle of Algiers influenced the US military

    The Algerian ervolutionary movement was very creative in inventing smart and innovative tactics for undermining the colonial power they wanted to get rid their country of.

    One of these tactics was the urban insurrection depicted in the film “The Battle of Algiers”.
    It was a genius gambit that transported insurrection operations from isolate country spots into highly populated areas, and further up into the agenda of the UN.

    The mastermind of these tactics was Algerian revolutionary leader Larbi Ben Mhidi who summarised it as follows: “Throw the Revolution into the street, the People will pick it up”.

    Both the insurrection and the film remains a study case; that were used and studied in recent times for the 2003 training of US military involved in military operations in Iraq.

    • Replies: @Malla
  105. Iris says:
    @utu

    Northern Africa should have been recovered from Muslim colonists several centuries earlier.

    North Africa was inhabited by pre-human species long before Europe; oldest traces of humanoid presence there dates back 3 million years.

    Our modern species “Sapiens Sapiens “also populated North Africa before reaching Europe and the rest of the world. The indigenous presence is attested by material evidence; anybody interested in anthropology knows that North African Rock Art is arguably the richest and most ancient in the world.

    There is no land to recover from North Africans; the land is theirs, they lived there for immemorial times.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @L.K
    , @HeebHunter
  106. Iris says:

    President Kennedy and the Battle of Algiers.

    Among the intelligent strategies used by Algerian revolutionaries was to deliberately inscribe their nationalist project within the framework of the ongoing Cold War. They played the East-West rivalry so it became obvious that a bloody colonial massacre, carried by France a NATO member, was only going to benefit the already immense aura the USSR had in the eyes of revolting colonised people.

    Against the backdrop of the ongoing Battle of Algiers, on July 2, 1957, a young senator from Massachusetts, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, gave before the US Senate a speech of great consequence on international relations.

    His speech, which became famous across the Atlantic as “The Algerian Speech”, had the effect of a thunderbolt in France. It was the first political contribution to the independence of the Algerian people from a foremost political figure. JFK was a senator and chairman of the subcommittee on UN affairs in the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee.

    His speech was powerful and inspiring, it denounced colonialism in Algeria and proclaimed his support for Algerian independence. It was entitled “Imperialism—The Enemy of Freedom.”
    The speech was a breakthrough moment for JFK, establishing him as a progressive cold warrior more in touch with what was then called the Third World.

    At the height of the Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy welcomed the first Algerian President to the White House for an official visit.

    Algerians still remember Kennedy’s address; a large square is named after him in Algiers’ historic area.

  107. bjondo says:
    @songbird

    Making up BS as you keyboard?

    Read Shlomo Sand and Ariel Toaff.

    5 dancing shlomos

  108. @Iris

    And what has Algeria done to improve the lot of its people? Why are there so many Algerians living in Europe instead of enjoying the freedom they fought for in their own country? I suspect the Soviets realised early on that most of these Arabs and Africans won’t be going anywhere fast but supported them to weaken the imperialist West which showed no good will towards them during the Cold War. The only two countries that made massive strides in development and improving the lot of their populations were Iraq and Libya, thanks to the leadership of Saddam Hussein and Moammar Gadaffi, but Russia did nothing to prevent the US and NATO from destroying them so that now Iraqis and Libyans have also joined the exodus to the West.

  109. @Iris

    Thank you Iris for your two posts. I very much appreciated the story about Kennedy, whose assassination we were told by our history teacher made a minor footnote in history of the USA and the world, while in fact I believe that had he managed to survive and prevail, the world would have been a very different and happier place. That great visionary leader was intent on curbing the might of the Federal Reserve and the military industrial complex starting with their prime agent the CIA. What a pity for the human race that he was replaced by the ultimate Psychopath LBJ.
    It is a bloody wicked world and there is a very little chance for the well intentioned.

    • Agree: Iris
  110. @Anonymous

    I suppose you are right. How many cops have joined the Yellow Vests and turned their rubber bullets and tear gas on their masters? During this lockdown the medical staff, police and soldiers are about the only ones with paying jobs still working and roaming around, and they’re not going to jeoperdise their salaries no matter what orders they’re issued. So it’s The Camp of the Saints scenario for any would be resisters, and this Malla character can play out the role of Indian Monsieur Hamadura if he happens to be round our way when any decide to make their final stand.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @RadicalCenter
  111. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    This is a very, very important point for all white Europeans to try to understand – even if you are, on the face of it, sceptical. It is a point of which I am more certain than anything in the Universe, heaven or earth, seen or unseen, known or not known, true God from true God, light from light etc etc. Please bear me with me:

    The political forces which control the nations of Europe *absolutely* *HATE* *HATE* *HATE* white people, (that is ethnic genetic Europeans with roots on the continent dating back many millennia). These politicians have an unquenchable burning passionate hatred for white people which knows no bounds and no depths. The depth of the hatred cannot be exaggerated.

    Put simply they want white people to die. Yes, that’s all they want, all they are striving for and laboring day and night to accomplish. They want whites to die so that the people they *really* love and cherish, nourish and protect, the blacks and browns can take over Europe.

    You might doubt me, you might scoff, but nothing in this world is more true or certain.

  112. @Anonymous

    You are perfectly right. Though that begs the question: why is it that they hate European natives so much? Is it because Whites have been the fountain of human freedom or that they have a sense of individuality that towers above the collective or that God has gifted them with beauty that is hard to find in other races?
    Looking at the Covid-19 hoax, it breaks my heart to see the credit of successful response go to China, a nation that is the epitome of a collective, totalitarian, authoritarian state so that it can be portrayed as a model society. It also breaks my heart to see Europeans accept the new social agenda whose only purpose is to atomise society in a way that no gathering or mass social resistance can stand up to the to the power of the new techno tyranny while they are rolling their ultimate weapon against the people, namely 5G technology. Gone are the Gilets Jaunes, and soon enough digital currency will replace paper currency and no transaction in the West would escape the prying eyes of the state. Meanwhile the gofers, like Macron and Merkel and their ilk will continue to whittle away at the racial consistency of the European race, in the name of diversity.
    Let us pray that a modern day Charles Martel will save the day for Europe.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Adûnâi
  113. Malla says:
    @Iris

    North Africa was a Christian land once and was colonized by Arabs. That is what he meant, “recovered from Muslim colonists”. In the year 500 AD the native North Africans did not speak Arabic and now Arabic is the national language of all North African nations.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Iris
  114. Malla says:
    @Iris

    The French lost because of the betrayal of the French Govt as was the case in many anti- colonial “revolutions”. If you ask me most anti-colonial movements were fake.
    From

    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/4-rebellion-accomplices.html

    “1. THE BETRAYAL OF THE REPUBLIC
    Since the Muslim population were what was at stake in the fight; it was a question of knowing to whom they would turn in the end : to the FLN or to France. In their heart of hearts, there is no doubt that they were attached to France; but their attitude naturally tended to model itself on the side that would show itself the strongest and most determined. The insurgents proved to be diabolically determined and intransigent. Banking on France capitulating in the end, they demanded unconditional Algerian independence from the beginning. Never did they deviate from this line of conduct.

    As for the French government, it mapped out its political line from day to day, calculating trends of opinion and the enemy’s intentions. One day it was resolved to fight the FLN, and the day after, it negotiated with the rebels. By its sudden fits of energy, it maintained the illusion among Europeans that it was determined to remain in Algeria, while in fact it was slowly slipping into capitulation.

    Mendès-France and MitterrandMendès-France and Mitterrand clearly declared that “ Algeria was France ” and that secession was inconceivable. Nevertheless, they recommended the Armed Forces to apply only « limited repression ». The result was that among the 1,270 suspects arrested during the first weeks of November, only about thirty of them were imprisoned… then liberated. Jacques Chevallier, the mayor of Algiers who became Secretary of State for War; informed the rebels of police and army activities, with the sole aim of keeping the votes of the MTLD in the coming elections. Such is democracy : without a twinge of conscience the population is handed over to cutthroats in order to win a few votes.

    In February 1955, the government appointed Jacques Soustelle Governor-General in Algeria. He thought that he would be able to apply a « very liberal » policy in Algiers. He discreetly helped Ben Boulaïd, one of the “ Historic Nine ” to escape, since he thought that he could use him as a “ valid interlocutor ”.

    Soustelle had not understood that one cannot come to terms with terrorists. He only came round two months later when the Philippeville massacre took place and went to the scene of the crime. There then occurred a phenomenon that would repeat itself often during the Algerian war. Won over by belief in French Algeria, Soustelle understood that negotiations with rebels were useless, but « his conversion did not go so far as to open his eyes to his Gaullist [and Socialist] error. » “

  115. @Bardon Kaldian

    Greek Cypriots are the closest thing to ancient Greeks.

  116. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Hating whites has all the trappings of a religious cult. The more you have whites, the more brownie points you score with the Pontiffs of this religion – and thus ‘earn’ your little place in heaven. Psychology and the herd mentality are a very strange things, but, by Jove, there is no more efficient way of controlling millions.
    Put bluntly, the vast majority of politicians are unintelligent brainless bigots, loud mouthed and low browed. What distinguishes them is their vanity and the desire to ‘look clever’. The way to be a ‘clever man’ is by actually being dumb enough to practice the dogshit advocated by The Economist magazine. Now that’s the way to show you are one of the announced?

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  117. Adûnâi says:

    This is such a fascinating page! The events are as recent and equally as undeservedly overlooked as the fall of the USSR! The Battle of Algiers by Gillo Pentecorvo will probably be the next film I ever watch after having seen Joker (2019) back in autumn 2019.

    Why did the French not construct gas chambers and put those 10 mil. Algerians to death in them? The answer – because the delusional, suicidal Aryans of France believed those Algerians to possess “souls” – and those souls are equally worth as compared to the French ones! Therefore, only a materialist atheist creed like Juche of the DPR of Korea can ever save Aryan blood.

    The part which I can add to this discussion is that I have vaguely heard that the Algerians were divided into religious traditionalists and Europe-inspired nationalist feminists. How insane! And how hilarious! The préstige and the splendour of Europe were still so great, the swarthy men of the South and of the East copied everything in full. It was decades later that many more saw the Occident for the rotting corpse that it is and secular nationalism largely faltered, and the hearts of the Muhammadans turned anew to the teachings of Qur’an – in Iran (Khomeini), in Afghanistan (Taliban), in Saudi Arabia (Al-Quaeda), in Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), in Syria (ISIS/Daesh).

  118. Adûnâi says:
    @anonymous

    > “Yes, like AmeriKKKa’s “total military victory” in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan… yeah?”

    Are you delusional? America did not fight a total war in either of those places. The war could have been over in 5 minutes – with the use of nuclear weapons launched from the depths of the seas.

    The occupation of Iraq could have been over in… two weeks. That’s about the time you would need to gather the 50 mil. Iraqi civilians in a number of places, and then explode a nuclear device in each of them.

    Would Russia or China start a suicidal nuclear Holocaust for the sake of the swarthy children of Mesopotamia? Press X to doubt!

    But of course, America is a colossus with the feet of clay. Their economy would tank, and their women would bleed themselves to death in outrage! Hilarious and funny!

    P.S. Your comment #67 is correct, however. Christians are so retarded, they couldn’t even copy Judaism properly. Christians are such unashamed liars, they proclaim to believe in the god of Ibrahim, and yet call a man a god! Christians are so ridiculously retarded, they cannot even count! A one god is turned to three spirits in their sick imagination!

    I am an atheist, and I hate all supernatural philosophies, yet Christianity is full of abominable contradictions. No wonder American men are cutting off their genitalia these days.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Antoniot
  119. Adûnâi says:
    @Joe Levantine

    > “The political forces which control the nations of Europe *absolutely* *HATE* *HATE* *HATE* white people, (that is ethnic genetic Europeans with roots on the continent dating back many millennia). These politicians have an unquenchable burning passionate hatred for white people which knows no bounds and no depths. The depth of the hatred cannot be exaggerated.”

    How can you be so dishonest? The élites do not hate the White people – it is the White people who hate themselves.

    The White people could have exterminated all non-Whites on the planet by 1950. They did not do it. The rest is to be expected – pure suicide.

    > “Though that begs the question: why is it that they hate European natives so much?”

    Everybody hates the Europeans because: 1) they are foreigners, every race on Earth hates foreigners; 2) they are alive – you can only hate that which is not dead; 3) they now smell so badly, they spread transvestitism around the globe.

    European men are cutting off their own genitalia, and are called women! This is so vile…

    > “Looking at the Covid-19 hoax, it breaks my heart to see the credit of successful response go to China, a nation that is the epitome of a collective, totalitarian, authoritarian state so that it can be portrayed as a model society.”

    A typical European Christian – you hate all authority, all Order, all Beauty. You want to wallow in filth, and despise any country that would try to survive and progress! Be it China or the DPR of Korea!

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Joe Levantine
  120. Iris says:
    @Malla

    North Africans indeed enthusiastically converted to the new Christian faith when it appeared.

    Christianity was a luminous moral revolution, which ethical values opposed the abjection of the Roman Empire that was enslaving North Africa at the time. Countless North Africans Christian converts were sacrificed by the Romans and delivered to wild animals in circus games, for refusing to recant their new faith.

    The two principal theologians and doctors of the traditional Christian faith are St Thomas Aquinas and St Augustine of Hippo. The later was a native North African, born and dead in what is today Eastern Algeria.

    The situation settled for a while after the Romans accepted Christianity, but then another historic turn occurred after the Roman Empire incorporated the Christian Church it into its power structure.
    North African Christians were organised under bishop Donat; Donatist communities refused the intrusion of Roman power into their religious affairs. The freedom to exert their faith was further accompanied with socio-economic claims, demanding that feudal land owners cancel laborers’ debts and free slaves.

    Roman repression then applied savagely onto the Christian Donatists; their faction was declared a heretic schism by the Council of Nicaea, and by this combination of repression and rejection, North Africans drifted and were lost to Christianity.

    Islam did not force North Africans out of Christianity; the dying Roman Empire’s state violence did. They embraced Islam as a second liberation.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Joe Levantine
  121. Malla says:
    @Adûnâi

    Yes, like AmeriKKKa’s “total military victory” in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan

    America did not fight a total war in either of those places.

    Very true, the USA never fought a total war in those places neither did it in Korea. America fought a much more ‘total war’ in WW2 against Germany and Japan. Similarly, the Soviets never fought a ‘total war’ in Afghanistan like it did in WW2.
    If the USA (and USSR) had fought those wars, with the kind of economic percentage of their resources, manpower and emotions, like they did WW2 and STILL LOST, then it would have been something. If the Americans and Soviets had really used the percentage of their military & economic resources in these places (Afghanistan, Iraq etc…) like they did in WW2 against the Germans and Japanese, these places (Iraq, Afghanistan etc…) would have been pulverized off the face of the planet.

  122. Malla says:
    @Iris

    Hey thank you for this information about the Donatist and its repression by Rome. However I doubt the North Africans, “embraced Islam as a second liberation.”

  123. Malla says:
    @Adûnâi

    Why did the French not construct gas chambers and put those 10 mil. Algerians to death in them? The answer – because the delusional, suicidal Aryans of France believed those Algerians to possess “souls” – and those souls are equally worth as compared to the French ones!

    The population of India (which includes today’s Pakistan and Bangladesh) boomed with its first contact with Europeans and boomed further under British Raj. Frequent travelers/ explorers to black Africa before colonial conquests (exploration of the Dark Continent) spoke of how they felt that the population of black Africa was actually reducing (disease, tribal fight, Arab slaving). In the early 20th century black Africa had a population equal or less than today’s Nigeria and now- it has overtaken Europe for the first time thanks to Whitey’s medicine. Soon they might overwhelm Europe.

    As far as the French Empire, French colonisation cost more than it yielded 2 years out of 3. 2,1 % of french GDP was spent on an average in French colonies each year during about a century…
    That is 3 times more than the OECD recommendation established in 1969 for ODA (0,7% of GDP).
    That is overall the equivalent of 7 European Recovery Program (“Marshall Plan” as they say in France) that was GIVEN, not lent, to the colonies by France.
    This is a proven fact by French historians(cf Jacques Marseille and Daniel Lefeuvre works).
    And what about soldiers of French colonies during WW1 and WW2 ?
    Historian Marc Michel showed that soldiers of French colonies during WW1 and WW2 didn’t suffer more % losses than French soldiers. They rather suffered a little less losses.

    Lebanese oncologist Prof Philip Salem admits that Lebanon Would Be Better off if It Were Still Under French Mandate

    And this is Lebanon!!! Lebanon has a far better quality of life than many third world countries.

    I oppose colonialism not because of all those Communist B.S. lies about Whitey (or Jap) exploiting darkies. That is B.S. We brown black darkies exploit each other ruthlessly far more than Whitey or Yellow can, always will till the end of time, it is in our DNA. We in India were once ruled by highly educated civilized English Gentlemen officers. Now we are ruled by Thaggards and lootars who blood suck us. It is just that they are of the same skin colour as us, as thuggard and low quality as the majority as us, hence they are Kosher according to the “International Community” and the people.
    I oppose colonialism because Whitey (& Jap) wasted all those resources on the White Man’s burden. Even in the USSR, the European SFSRs (Russia, Ukraine) were losing money on the non White SFSRs. As I have always said, brown blacks are expensive. Now YT does not have the numbers and money to indulge in White man’s burden B>S> like they had once. What a waste of resources, time and blood. Darkies are not worth wasting anything on, this is what Multi-Racialism/ Multiculturalism will teach Whitey again. Will Whitey learn?

  124. Malla says:

    As the tittle by Monsieur Durocher says “Euro-Muslim Race War in North Africa: Reliving The Battle Algiers” goes with a theory I had come across years ago, that with Multi-Racialism, multiculturalism and mass migration since WW2, the Europeans are recreating their vast Empires inside their traditional homes. Since their White Man’s burden Empires collapsed and the burden projects were aborted (Shiva Naipaul called Africa “aborted European Civilization”), some of them decided with grit that they would complete the project inside their traditional national boundaries. In other words, they got the Empire inside their traditional boundaries. The same bragging and status signalling among the White peoples about who treats their darkies better and shaming the other Whitey for their supposedly “ill treatment” of their darkies continued. Remember how the Scandinavians mocked White Americans for the treatment of American blacks, well they have their own darkies now and the White Americans are laughing in return. It is easy to mock when you are a safe distance from cunning, thuggish predatory darkies, no? Remember how the Euros looked down upon the White South Africans for the treatment for darkies, well Euros have substantial number of unruly darkies to deal with now and the White Afrikaners are laughing and sayin “We told you so.”
    But the new civilizing mission of multiracialism/multiculturalism will fail for the same reason as the earlier civilizing mission of Empire will fail, because race matters, average IQ matters, racial difference in average tendencies and taste matters, the difference in racial souls matters. That is right, National Socialism and Apartheid were right, the races are different, colonialism/ White Man’s burden theory that given enough time the darkie would become an European with dark skin, is wrong. Yes, for a small number of intelligent darkies with superior taste and good character, Westernisation (or Japanification or Russofication if you consider Russia different from the West) will work but not for the majority. Hell the new project (Multi-Racialism) will be an even more of a catastrophic failure as unlike the Euros of yester years, Western culture has collapsed thanks to cultural Marxism and the West has lost its confidence in itself. The Englishman is no longer an Englishman, the Frenchman is no longer a Frenchman, so what is the darkie to become? A ghetto gangsta rapstar? Come all the way to Britain or France to become a ghetto gangsta rapstar?
    This may be shocking for a libtard hippie, most darkies respect a English Victorian gentleman officer far far more than a Whigger or dirty hippie, always have, always will. That is how the World works. White people of past centuries were tough & competent, most White people today are brain washed to be pussyboys full of guilt. The Europeans who went a sailin across the world, wore wigs and pranced to beautiful Baroque music but were a real smart, tough, brave lot on the field, fought and defeated foreign despotic Sultans and crazy warlike tribes with no anti-Septic, air backup and pain killers. Darkies respected them. Wig wearing, classical music listening White officers led huge armies full of bellicose darkies to victory. Today’s ‘rebel without a cause’ tattooed Rock music/ Gangsta Rap music listening, Che Guevara T-shirt wearing Westerner, black or White would not be able to run a village in the Punjab for a year let alone gigantic colonial Empires. LOL. These rebels without a cause would face a real rebellion (with a cause). The only Euros who can successfully run such Empires today are Eastern Europeans. The average Pole, Ukrainian, Russian etc… of today has a confidence in his/ her culture which Westerners do not. Strange how it turned out, it were those Euros who suffered under Communism remained the most Nationalist.
    But in the past, Euros have somewhere to go back to if the project failed. The Britisher could return to good ol British Isles, if things did not work out somewhere, the Frenchman to fair France, the Dutchman to Netherlands, the Portuguese to Portugal etc.. But where will Whitey run to now when this new project fails?

  125. Malla says:
    @Adûnâi

    The answer – because the delusional, suicidal Aryans of France believed those Algerians to possess “souls” – and those souls are equally worth as compared to the French ones!

    Considered equal or superior to a Whitey’s soul?

    The little boy is saying: “Please ‘M, aint we black enough to be cared for?”

    “Charles Darwin’s uncle a factory owner Josiah Wedgewood owned a business that worked white children of 5 years of age in a chemical factory permeated with lead oxide a deadly poison. Wedgewood acknowledged that the lead made the children very subject to disease but worked them anyway.
    Ruth Holland commenting on the participation of New England factory owners in the cause of abolitionism and rights for negroe’s in the south observed,it’s a little difficult to believe that northern mill owners who where mercilessly abusing white children for profit,felt such pure moral indignation at the negro slavery. from a previous slave “when I was a boy” recalled Walter McIntosh, who had been a slave in Sumter, South Carolina”we used to sing, Rather be a nigger than a poor white man”Tarquin 1488 pel,

  126. Malla says:
    @Adûnâi

    The White people could have exterminated all non-Whites on the planet by 1950. They did not do it. The rest is to be expected – pure suicide.

    There was no need to massacre uz darkies. Just should not have allowed darkies in such large numbers inside White lands and not given citizenship. Banned interracial romantic-marital-sexual relationships like how those Arabs in Saudi Arabia do or Orthodox Jews in Israel do or how we caste Hindus do. Or maybe not given your technology to darkies so freely. Now thanks to YT medicine and agricultural technology (Green Revolution) darkie population has boomed and most of the world is one big slum. The tiger and lion is going the way of extinction like Whitey and Japanese/Korean but the whole world might end up becoming a Sudan like slum full of darkies. Hey Hell on Earth. An Orwellian Sudan like global mega slum controlled by chosen people kikes in Tel Aviv. Wow. Is that how the end of history will look? Mr. Fukuyama got is a bit wrong.
    Most importantly should not have stupidly given your technology to those intelligent East Asian yellows. Starting with the intelligent Japanese, they have become your greatest rivals. Those yellows wanted nothing to do with you and the outside world. They were building Great Walls and hermit kingdoms. Whitey (maybe driven by Jew bankers) forced them into the modern world, gave them high IQ folks Whitey technology and now they are “Yellow Peril”. How stupid iz dat?

    But you are right, if some darkie race would have got the kind of power Whiteys had during the colonial era, or shall I say power differential in power, numbers (Whites were the majority race at the beginning of the 20th century), technology, military, wealth etc… w.r.t other races, they might have massacred off other rival races. That is because we darkies are prime grade survivalists. If say the Zulus would have got the kind of power that Whiteys had during the height of the colonial period, I would not be surprised that they would have exterminated many non Zulus. Kill off your rivals as they say.
    And that is why any sensible person would rather live under English colonial rule than under Zulu rule or even Ottoman rule or Jewish Soviet Communist rule.

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  127. Malla says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    As things happened, there was far too much bad blood between the French and the Algerians by 1962. The Europeans realized by then their alternative was “the suitcase or the coffin.”

    And why was there bad blood in between the French and natives? Why because that was one of the MAIN AIMS of the FLN terrorists all along. Destroy the relationship in between the two communities.

    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/4-rebellion-accomplices.html

    “The FLN was a movement that came from the Organisation spécial (OS; Special Organisation), the terrorist branch of Messali Hadj’s Marxist movement : the “ Mouvement pour le Triomphe des Libertés Démocratiques ” (MTLD; Movement for the Triumph of Democratic Liberties). Shortly before, in the spring of 1954, twenty-two activists of the OS had decided to split away and chose a directory : the “ Committee of Nine ”. These men proclaimed themselves the historical leaders of the FLN. The Front inherited from the OS its revolutionary character and its method : terror. It always excluded Communists to avoid having to submit to them, but nevertheless it kept their methods and their Marxist dialectic. The FLN also used the ulemas to rouse the peasant masses to fanaticism and to justify the acts of slaughter that they would commit in the name of Islam. Finally, the “ Union Démocratique du Manifeste Algérien ” (UDMA; Democratic Union of the Algerian Manifesto) led by Ferhat Abbas, also contributed to the expansion of the FLN by stirring up the Muslim middle-class and awakening French public opinion to its claims.”

    …snip….

    “THE PHILIPPEVILLE MASSACRE
    For French Muslims, nothing was more unnatural than this bloody rebellion. There is nothing more opposed to historical truth than a massive uprising of the Algerian people against colonial France.

    The FLN leaders could but take note of this strong reluctance that their co-religionists showed towards them. Zighout Youssef, the rebel leader in the area (or wilaya) of North Constantine, a fanatical supporter of jihad, understood that it would be necessary to dig a gulf of blood between Muslims and Europeans so as to create an irreparable situation and to make any rapprochement between the two communities forever impossible. On August 20, 1955, in Philippeville, 51 Muslins and 71 Europeans, the elderly, women and babies included, had their throats slit, were disembowelled or dismembered. And what can be said of the El Hadia slaughter on the same day ? Dreadful… The police intervened but were unable to prevent reprisals by the Europeans, who were tried beyond endurance. 1,273 deaths were registered. Europeans were gripped by fear and Muslims with resentment.

    For the FLN, it was a victory. It then had to enlarge the wound by organising other acts of pillage and slaughter. In May 1957, it had been responsible for 1,800 cases of arson on farms, slitting the throats of or stealing 80,000 head of cattle, and the destruction of 12,000,000 grapevines. The FLN wanted first to kill Europeans and the Muslims whose spirit of justice and qualities of heart were factors that contributed to harmony existing between the communities. This conduct would acquire such an official character that in 1959 Krim Belkacem, who became the FLN’s “ Minister of War ”, declared cynically to journalists : « Assassination is proof of the preparation and the aptitude of new recruits : a new recruit must kill at least one colonialist or known traitor ». Such was the infernal mechanism that the FLN set in motion.”

  128. @Adûnâi

    “Everybody hates the Europeans because: 1) they are foreigners, every race on Earth hates foreigners; 2) they are alive – you can only hate that which is not dead; 3) they now smell so badly, they spread transvestitism around the globe.”

    Reasons one and two might be true but they sound like they derive from Jenkins Khan modus operandi. Reason three is true but you can add political correctness, pederasty and self flagellation for the sins of slavery. Where I disagree with you is when you refer to Europe as Christian. The renaissance heralded the beginning of half Christianity when the popes of Rome started embracing usury and Europeans gradually became debt slaves. The sexual revolution, feminism and Vatican II wiped out any vestiges of Christianity in Europe. Free trade as conceptualised by Jewish dominated banking and central banking wiped out the technological advantages of the Whiteys. Now, open immigration will deliver the coup de grace to whatever remains of Europe.

    “A typical European Christian – you hate all authority, all Order, all Beauty. You want to wallow in filth, and despise any country that would try to survive and progress! Be it China or the DPR of Korea!”

    The only authority I accept is that that derives from justice and fairness. Yes, you have guessed that I have in me a trace of anarchism as I fully despise State or oligarchic authority for I believe that Christianity ( as opposed to hierarchical Churchianity) endows the individual with a God given freedom that defies tyranny, whatever its source. And if you think that Chinese face recognition and social credit are the hallmarks of a society of order, then good luck to you. As for beauty, while the European can never claim total monopoly over it, I cherish the European classical art beyond any of its rivals and I loath modern art the way it is displayed by the anti European sponsors of the Guggenheim museum.

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    , @Robjil
  129. Antoniot says:

    Adunai is a jew larping as a nazi there is no doubt looking at his historial, a hoolywood caricature nazi that always deflect any serious jewish criticism

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  130. @Iris

    Thank you Iris for this most informative and valuable post about the history of Christianity in Northern Europe.

    “…The freedom to exert their faith was further accompanied with socio-economic claims, demanding that feudal land owners cancel laborers’ debts and free slaves.”

    There is little doubt that Constantine granted the Christian community its freedom to worship mainly to consolidate his reign under a unified Christian creed. How tragic that the rise of Islam came courtesy of the decline of the Byzantine Empire due to religious infighting between the three main churches of the Levant: Alexandra, Antioch and Constantinople.

    History repeats itself. The answer to today’s societal problems is a new Donatist revolution.

  131. @Malla

    Some solid truths there, and in the comment above and the ones below. I won’t nitpick on a few minor disagreements. Funny too, if it weren’t such a serious f***-up.

  132. Anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Hindus allow marriage with Hindu women. Love Jihad is a big problem in India.

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  133. Malla says:
    @Anon

    In many rural parts of India it is nearly impossible for a person of one caste to marry someone of a different caste. Even in cities, it is tough sometimes. But once upon a time it was nearly impossible marrying a woman from a different caste.

  134. @Anonymous

    Just to pint out how insufferable the cops and soldiers are in all countries these days, enjoying their freedom roaming around and pouncing on anybody for the slightest infringement of the emergency measures, harassing mothers, pensioners, guys exercising all alone in a park. And they feel so proud thinking they’re fulfilling some civic duty and protecting public health. This emergency shows you exactly what a global tyranny would look like. The heartless cops could padlock you in your home, as they do to some of those who break the curfew in India, and throw away the key. They’ll do absolutely anything for their paycheck. The people will need to go through and over them to get to the elites.

  135. Calgacus says:

    Excellent, as always.
    You may have recalled the massacre of Sétif and the failure in the establishment of a local Assembly (many very influential people – including a Senator – were ruthlessly exploiting Algeria) to explain why it all went South.
    And perhaps also underline the role of Enrico Mattei and a part of the Italian establishment in aiding and abetting the F.L.N. After all, the infamous Georges Bidault became the chief of the O.A.S., later C.N.R., who attempted twice, failing (many other plots were foiled), to kill Charles de Gaulle, while safely based in Italy, under the protection of the “Ufficio Affari Riservati”. It is probably not a coincidence that in “The Jackal” movie the kidnapping of an O.A.S. bigshot takes place in Italy – the fatherland of Pontecorvo.
    “The battle of Algiers” was forbidden in France till 1975, if I remember correctly, as it was seens as a strong plead against the colonization. It is perhaps again not a coincidence that then President Giscard d’Estaing, elected in 1974, a millionaire by marriage and an avowed globalist, allowed also immediately the “regroupement familial” to take place, i.e. the beginning of the real “cultural enrichment” of France…

  136. @Malla

    Thank you Malla. It is unfortunate that your very perceptive analysis is pretty much heralding the suicide of the West. I look forward to your suggestions out of this impasse. Could it be that the liberators of the brainwashed Westerners could be the few darkies who are able to blend with Western culture and appreciate its true worth as their opinions of their brethren are less susceptible to liberal attacks.

    • Replies: @Malla
  137. Malla says:
    @Joe Levantine

    You are welcome bud. Things are a bit too late but of course there is always a way.

    However

    Could it be that the liberators of the brainwashed Westerners could be the few darkies who are able to blend with Western culture and appreciate its true worth

    Nope…. The percentage of darkies who would appreciate Western Civilization or take a pity on the White race or fight for righteousness is always gonna be very very small of the darkie or Combined White-darkie population. maybe far less than 1 %.
    But darkies can and are contributing in their own way, their bad behaviour is waking up many Whites from their Matrix. May be more Whites should have woken up by now but some White people are just too brain washed. But everytime a darkie attacks/ cheats/ acts racist/ acts arrogant etc… towards YT, YT has an opportunity to wake out of the matrix just a little bit, every such experience can chip away at the propaganda concrete block. And for the lucky ones, the truth sets them free.

    As far as solutions from this situation. Just a few which comes to my head.
    1] Firstly more and more White people need to be woken up from the matrix.
    2] White people need to culturally reject the modern world, not technologically but culturally. This includes Hollywood, Television etc… maybe have to go a bit Amish. Gandhi had written that to drive the British from India, Indians who are a majority had to just withdraw from the system and the system would collapse. But this needs sacrifice and simple living, most Indians in those days were poor and were used to living a simple life. many Whites will have to learn to do that.
    White folks need to embrace their own unique traditions more, stop rejecting their own history and the ways of their ancestors. Modern culture is too general not race/ ethno specific and it is harmful , secretion of the Jewish/ Negro mind. So more Classical books and dramatics, more medieval festivals, more Classical/folk music instead of Hollywood, modern music, modern literature etc… This will actually keep non Whites away, keep money which would have flowed to your enemies inside the community. The number of non Whites interested in such events would be very very less. And those that do frequently come would most likely be sympathetic to the White cause anyways.
    Also avoid non White businesses as much as possible, keep more and more money within the tribe. Support small White businesses. No more eating Mexican or Indian food and giving your money to enemy brown invaders/ infiltrators. If you want to eat Mexican or Indian food, learn to cook it yourself, millions of youtube videos online. However withdrawing from the modern world does not mean the community should keep their eyes and ears closed about what is going on in the modern entertainment space for clues about what the elites are planning, the propaganda of the elites etc… Always keep ears and eyes open.
    3] Or White folks may have to divide up roles. A large mass of White people may have to go Amish, make sacrifices, withdraw from the modern world completely, may even have to live in poverty. They will have high birth rates, they would supply the numbers, large numbers of healthy White children. They benefit these White folk would get is they would be passing a large number of their genes into the future. But unlike the real Amish these folks would not be Pacific, they would train in weapons to fight other humans if needed.
    Another group of White folks would behave as Jews. They would outjew the Jew. These folks would get into Law, Medicine, Education, Justice and slowly take power. Just like how the Cultural Marxists took power. They would make complicated networks supporting each other. They will protect the White race by if attacked by these power structures. I know White folks are not and do not like being clannish, but these are extraordinary times needing extra ordinary methods. Survival comes first, people can go back being individualistic when they get their own territory and society protected from predatory external tribes. Their numbers would be bolstered up the a percentage of people leaving the first high fertility Amish like group. In other words the first Amish like group would kind of play the role of the Ultra Orthodox community in Jews.

    As far as Christianity, I say, whatever benefits the survival and power of the Race, is Kosher. Those aspects of Christianity which benefits the Race can be kept those which harm, can be discarded. Same with paganism or even Islam or Judaism. If there are some elements of Islam or Judaism which can bring benefit to the race, they can be adopted without turning Muslims or Jews. No need to take the Whole package and thus the unsavory parts.

    One more thing that can be done is to educate non Whites about the NWO and make them realise that we all have a common enemy among the elites, that White survival is not harmful to non Whites at all (all this is true). Need to ramp up the propaganda industry. During WW2, this was the biggest weakness of the Axis forces.
    Also language plays a big part in psychology. Example – Do not call non White immigrants as immigrants or idiotic terms like “visible minority” etc… terms defined by your enemies. Call them terms like ‘infiltrators’ or ‘invaders’. Define your own terms.

    White people need to become survivalists especially w.r.t those external tribes who are themselves survivalists. White folks can be individualistic and high minded amongst themselves but any introduction of clannish, low trust outsiders into society have to be blocked. Also White people actually need to become less tolerant. If an advertisement insults White people, boycott the product, make noise, riot, act a little barbaric, like how blacks do. Unfortunately the way things are, the civilized and the tolerant are not respected by the scumbags in power.

    So sadly, White people may have to behave a bit like Jews and even blacks until a society arises where via revolution or secession or by kicking out all non Whites you can get a society and territory of your own where no predatory external tribe (Jews & brown-blacks) can exploit you. Then you can behave like natural White people again.

    These are a few things which come to my head right now. I do not know if they will be practical but I am sure many smart folks here at Unz will come up with better solutions.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @Miro23
  138. Malla says:
    @Antoniot

    Yeah, even I noticed that. He talks a lot about killing huge numbers of people. Killing large number of people is a Jewish thing not a National Socialist thing. Jews project their malicious tendencies on their enemies.

  139. @Joe Levantine

    Ok great, but that ship sailed millenniums ago the first time a band of club wielding apemen attacked a different band of club wielding apemen to seize the latter’s lands and females. People have been taking over each other’s lands continuously ever since, and there is no way to rewind the tape and figure out which land originally belonged to whom. That being the reality, the land “belongs” to those who have the power to defend it, or those who have the power to seize it. Clearly, the French attack was superior to the Arab defense, and thus the French had a legitimate claim to the land under the only ruleset that nature has ever known. Anyone who disagrees should explain exactly what makes the Arab conquest of North Africa’s original* inhabitants more just than the French conquest of the Arab conquerors?

    *Needless to say these “original inhabitants” almost certainly took the land over from some even older group.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  140. @Malla

    You know your people best but I know whites, and they’re not as smart as you think.

    During the Cold War many Third World countries were on their way to institute communist style dictatorships as that ideology was popular at the time among their national liberation movements and the masses. Who was it that fought tooth and nail to prevent this, conspiring in every conceivable way to stymie this development, even resorting to genocide in Indonesia? Surely such communist dictatorships throughout the Third World would have prevented their citizens from travelling to the West to be exposed to western cultural and spiritual pollution and we would not have had this immigrant problem to the extent we have now. Such communism or socialism, no matter how imperfect, could also have raised their populations out of dire poverty so that they wouldn’t have to seek relief from their misery by going West.

    Same with the East Europeans. Which idiots cheered the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain? What did they think? That the wall and curtain being brought down wouldn’t open the flood gates to the immigrants from East Europe to the West? It was the only thing keeping them penned up in their own countries. So now we have millions of immigrants from said countries and western jails full of Poles, Balts, and Albanian criminals. No it is not the cultural Marxists who are responsible for this state of the world, no matter how vile they may be – it is the fault of right wing Reaganites and Thatcherites.

    • Replies: @karel
    , @Commentator Mike
  141. @Anonymous (n)

    Please refer to my comment number 89.
    I would only add that if might makes right then humankind is doomed to live under the law of the jungle.

  142. @Malla

    Thank you Malta for the effort, it was elaborate and creative.

    Though I should state, that ever since I woke up to Hollywood shenanigans, I did stop watching Hollywood movies, also I stopped following the MSM with the last time reading the Economist magazine in 2011 after having been a subscriber for 20 years. I also avoid sports entertainment and multinational corporate brands like Coca Cola along with the junk food business. However, I admit that I have so far failed to impress on the closest people to me to avoid shopping habits that sucks us dry by displaying luxury brand names. The Corona virus hoax provided me some success lately as it triggered in my wife the need for frugality. But it had been my financial practice never to buy anything on credit and to simply save enough to buy whatever I need by cash payment, including my house. And here, I would add to your valuable advice to move any of your financial savings from the top Too Big To Fail ( or Jail) banks to local community banks.

    When I did advice White folks to start taking time out from the screens and revive a community like form of society by reaching out for the neighbour(s), one White commentator’s reply was that Levantine people like Arabs and Jews refer to their folks as “ cousin” whereas such tribal affinity does not apply among Whites. Another White commentator ridiculed my suggestion that White people go for home schooling instead of sending their kids to learn under the communist brainwashing of the Department of Education. I guess it will take more hard hitting realities about the doomed White race until Whites decide to clean their act and learn the virtues of tribalism.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  143. @Joe Levantine

    Sorry Malla for the typo. Autocorrect changed your name to Malta.

  144. Adûnâi says:
    @Joe Levantine

    > “The sexual revolution, feminism and Vatican II wiped out any vestiges of Christianity in Europe.”

    To the contrary – Europe has become more and more Christian with time. In the past, the weak died, the foreigners (aka “infidels”) opposed. Now, the enemy is freely loved, and the sanctity of life respected. The triumph of St. Francis!

    > “Yes, you have guessed that I have in me a trace of anarchism as I fully despise State or oligarchic authority for I believe that Christianity ( as opposed to hierarchical Churchianity) endows the individual with a God given freedom that defies tyranny, whatever its source.”

    The orderly hierarchy was some of the most admirable features of Catholicism.

    > “Where I disagree with you is when you refer to Europe as Christian. The renaissance heralded the beginning of half Christianity when the popes of Rome started embracing usury and Europeans gradually became debt slaves.”

    © Friedrich Nietzsche – The Antichrist (1888), part 61
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/19322/19322-h/19322-h.htm

    [MORE]

    Here it becomes necessary to call up a memory that must be a hundred times more painful to Germans. The Germans have destroyed for Europe the last great harvest of civilization that Europe was ever to reap—the Renaissance. Is it understood at last, will it ever be understood, what the Renaissance was? The transvaluation of Christian values,—an attempt with all available means, all instincts and all the resources of genius to bring about a triumph of the opposite values, the more noble values…. This has been the one great war of the past; there has never been a more critical question than that of the Renaissance—it is my question too—; there has never been a form of attack more fundamental, more direct, or more violently delivered by a whole front upon the center of the enemy! To attack at the critical place, at the very seat of Christianity, and there enthrone the more noble values—that is to say, to insinuate them into the instincts, into the most fundamental needs and appetites of those sitting there…. I see before me the possibility of a perfectly heavenly enchantment and spectacle:—it seems to me to scintillate with all the vibrations of a fine and delicate beauty, and within it there is an art so divine, so infernally divine, that one might search in vain for thousands of years for another such possibility; I see a spectacle so rich in significance and at the same time so wonderfully full of paradox that it should arouse all the gods on Olympus to immortal laughter—Cæsar Borgia as pope!… Am I understood?… Well then, that would have been the sort of triumph that I alone am longing for today—: by it Christianity would have been swept away!—What happened? A German monk, Luther, came to Rome. This monk, with all the vengeful instincts of an unsuccessful priest in him, raised a rebellion against the Renaissance in Rome…. Instead of grasping, with profound thanksgiving, the miracle that had taken place: the conquest of Christianity at its capital—instead of this, his hatred was stimulated by the spectacle. A religious man thinks only of himself.—Luther saw only the depravity of the papacy at the very moment when the opposite was becoming apparent: the old corruption, the peccatum originale, Christianity itself, no longer occupied the papal chair! Instead there was life! Instead there was the triumph of life! Instead there was a great yea to all lofty, beautiful and daring things!… And Luther restored the church: he attacked it…. The Renaissance—an event without meaning, a great futility!—Ah, these Germans, what they have not cost us! Futility—that has always been the work of the Germans.—The Reformation; Leibnitz; Kant and so-called German philosophy; the war of “liberation”; the empire—every time a futile substitute for something that once existed, for something irrecoverable…. These Germans, I confess, are my enemies: I despise all their uncleanliness in concept and valuation, their cowardice before every honest yea and nay. For nearly a thousand years they have tangled and confused everything their fingers have touched; they have on their conscience all the half-way measures, all the three-eighths-way measures, that Europe is sick of,—they also have on their conscience the uncleanest variety of Christianity that exists, and the most incurable and indestructible—Protestantism…. If man kind never manages to get rid of Christianity the Germans will be to blame….

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  145. UK says:
    @songbird

    Acting is an ultra-competitive career where quality really stands out. The worst famous actors are actually absolutely excellent, just like the worst famous footballers. It is an art full of distinction. Many casting decisions are best explained by this fact and the inevitable unequal distribution of talent.

    Or to put it simply: they probably couldn’t find an Arab man whom they believed could carry the role and so they settled on a black Muslim type instead.

    To make an observation, there seems to be quite a few black people who are very adept at holding a screen.

  146. “Now, the enemy is freely loved, and the sanctity of life respected”

    The enemy is hardly loved by the mainstream European, but rather by the Deep Pockets who in cahoot with the Deep State are setting European society for a classical case of divide and conquer and abortion is the biggest assault on the sanctity of life.

    With respect to Nietzsche, I admit that I am no authority having only read “ The portable Nietzsche “ and “Thus spoke Zarathustra” where I saw some master pieces like ‘ the Rabble’, ‘the flies of the market place’ and ‘ the callers of equality’. Though in as much as admire Nietzsche as a sea of ideas, I could only see in him a frustrated semi god whose obsession is Jesus Christ for the most that he could endeavour was to condemn the desire for vengeance which is nothing more than a cheap imitation of Christian philosophy such as in his contemptible ‘ The Adder’s Bite’ ( thanking the adder for its deadly bite!). Nietzsche attacked Luther who IMHO is one of the greatest heroes of Europe for having stood up to the might and the corruption of the Vatican while I admit that his reformist movement caused much carnage in Europe. Nietzsche’s last days as mad man living in a sanitarium attests to his lack of internal balance.

    Let us remember that during the so called ‘The Dark Ages’ ( a euphemism for Christianity) the destructive power of finance and usury was far more under control and after the usurers left England in 129o, English workers could make do with 14 weeks of wage labour in a year on average and some of Europe’s greatest architectural masterpieces were built mainly on volunteer labor. Yet Nietzsche, for his great satisfaction, was right to see the Renaissance as anti Christian for I believe that the decadence and the chaos that Europe is going through is the ultimate manifestation of the Godless Renaissance. Christianity, love it or hate it, was the shield that kept Europe free of multiculturalism and enabled European demographic regeneration whereas secularism is what promoted the defunct ideology of representative democracy and diversity.

  147. @Anonymous

    “ Put bluntly, the vast majority of politicians are unintelligent brainless bigots,“

    Politics= poly ticks. Many ticks, blood suckers whose only job is to suckle at the public tits. TM Gerald Celente of Trendsresearch.com

  148. @Malla

    “ And this is Lebanon!!! Lebanon has a far better quality of life than many third world countries“

    Well Malla, you have a great sense of realism. Lebanon, in its current geography, was a French creation even though Mount Lebanon, as a civilisation, preceded the French state by a few thousand years. I did mention in one of my comments that Lebanon was France’s biggest colonial success. When the Lebanese had a system of governance where the Christian president was the first ruler of Lebanon, with most Christians identifying with Western culture, Lebanon was the reference for an ascending third world country. When Moslems rebelled against the national pact that was agreed and accepted by all Lebanese sects upon independence, only to be reneged upon by the Moslems who sought more power, Lebanon went into a lengthy civil war that shifted power to the Moslems who identify mainly with Arab nationalism. From there on Lebanon, despite an educational system that is very competitive and diversified, started a retreat from sound governance as a country without a head as the Christian president became more of a figurehead than an actual ruler. Now it is the third most indebted country in the world for one simple reason: rampant corruption. The pro Western intelligentsia has been on the defensive ever since the end of the civil war and most Lebanese brains that are nurtured at schools and universities that were set up by Western missionaries started seeking job opportunities outside Lebanon with the resulting brain drain reducing the country to a mediocre economy based on services and tourism with a little role for industry and agriculture. Everybody clamours for independence, but Lebanon’s independence from France has proven to be at best a mixed blessing.

    • Thanks: Malla
  149. Anon[667] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    No way any of that is happening.

    Whites are too lazy to do tough physical jobs or start their own businesses.

    Most Whites aren’t going to listen to classical music or read Shakespeare.
    They hate that stuff.

    Most Whites want to party and have a good time. No way any White person is interested in reading literature, planning for the future, being disciplined, making sacrifices. Never gonna happen.

    Whites have easy lives and would never give that up. Most Whites don’t plan for the future anyway. If you think Whites are interested in simple and clean living, you’re wrong.

    You make good point, but nobody is going to do any of that. Most Whites would rather destroy themselves than live a difficult life.

    The main challenge with Whites isn’t reversing any “brainwashing.” The challenge is getting them to change their comfortable lives, which is probably impossible.

    • Replies: @Malla
  150. Anon[667] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Whites have a history of being more clannish than they are now.

    Whites used clannish strategies to conquer and steal America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa.

    If Whites weren’t capable of clannishness, they wouldn’t have been able to rule India and many nonwhite countries.

    • Replies: @Anonymous (n)
    , @Malla
  151. @Anon

    Furthermore, clannishness is a very helpful characteristic and should not be despised, nor even treated as a necessary evil. All common human traits are valuable, if in various degrees of moderation. The current iteration of whites is lacking in aggression, viciousness, and cunning to a fault, but this does not make them superior. It instead makes them a perfect slave race of eloi and given enough time slaves is what they’ll become. While unadulterated savagery is far from ideal particularly since it almost always leads to incompetence and thus weakness relative to more civilized competitors, if given a binary choice I’d much rather belong to a tribe of barbaric savages than cucked eloi.

    The key to success in the ever present struggle of ingroup vs outgroups is to have a large degree of cooperation and trust within your ingroup while maintaining a healthy amount of “will to power” traits like aggression and cunning in relation to outgroups. This is a balance I feel 19th century Europeans came closest to achieving among all civilizations since the Romans, but sadly they’ve gone 100% servant cuck for nearly the last 100 years and are only getting worse.

  152. dimples says:
    @Agathoklis

    “Likewise, you could say some similar things about the modern French. Their achievements are Islamic mass migration, homosexuality, smoking, French ‘philosophy’, homosexuality, pederasty, record breaking Smurf festivals, homosexuality, homosexuality; and guess what, homosexaulity.”

    Its sad but true what you say. But some things the French do are irreplaceable. For example I have a Petzl Myo head torch (the now discontinued grey one, not its hideous white and orange replacement) that beyond doubt is the classiest looking head torch ever made, or ever will be made. And its reliable and works well. Only the French could have done this.

  153. @Malla

    Malla, if you’re still reading this thread I have a question for you. Why didn’t India do more to support the Tamil Tigers and help them carve out their own ethno state? The TTs seemed to be doing quite well for a long time yet they were defeated and forgotten without India making much of a fuss about it. Considering that Tamils are the same ethnicity and religion as those in Tamil Nadu, that India is a regional superpower and so close to Jaffna, that it is ready to go to war with Pakistan and China who are far stronger than Sri Lanka, I can’t quite understand why it didn’t do more for the Tamils. It used to be the same kind of situation like that in Novorussya nowadays where ethnic Russians have established their own state in Ukraine. I would have expected India to have done far more for the Tamils even to the point of military intervention to protect their gains. Any explanations from you would be most welcome. It’s just something that has intrigued me. Here they are clashing with China over some barren mountain land yet let the Tamil Hindustanis down the drain.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Malla
  154. Bill P says:
    @Agathoklis

    Eh, ever heard of King Arthur, Duns Scotus or the Scottish enlightenment?

  155. Fitzman says:
    @Anonymous

    Certainly, the English “out-imperialisted” the French overall, but the Brits deserve only fleeting credit for defeating Napoleon…the Russians and General Winter destroyed the cream of his army, and doubtless French martial ardor as well. Against peer or near peer opponents, alone, perfidious Albion has always fared quite poorly, as in both world wars. They were and are only formidable to tribesmen and third world dictatorships

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  156. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    India doesn’t care about its overseas populations in Lanka, Africa, Malaysia, Carribean, etc. India treats these people as forgotten.

    Similar to how England forgot South African Whites.

    India only cares about Indians in America and the West because they send back a lot of money.

    Indians don’t have much ethnic solidarity. A North Indian won’t care about the fate of a South Indian Tamil.

    Hindus have zero ethnic solidarity. In this way, Hindus are the opposite of Muslims. Hindus have spent hundreds of years bowing to Muslims, sacrificing their own people.

    Even the most liberal Whites aren’t as suicidal as Hindus. The naivety, weakness, idiocy, and guilt-mentality of the Hindu are appalling.

    Liberal Hindu media actually cares more about Hindu-Muslim riots in Gujarat than the fate of Hindu populations being oppressed in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Lanka, etc.

    When Hindus were genocide in Bangladesh, Indian govt sat by for many months and did nothing. Today there are 30 million Bangla illegals in India, and liberals want to give them citizenship!

    Whites have yet to reach this level of insanity. Really if not for the Jews, Whites would be doing fine. Whites are more sensible than Hindus.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  157. Anon[136] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Western leaders have slaughtered millions of innocent Muslims. They haven’t slaughtered Whites. At least not yet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  158. Anonymous[683] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Bollocks.

    I’m not even going to pontificate about the history of the Balkans, of Spain, of post Roman north Africa, of Russia etc etc.
    Or even the Bataclan and Nice attacks or 9/11.
    Or even of the undeniable and incontrovertible *FACT* that is the bounden duty of every real Muslim to conquer and convert the infidel and make war on them until they are converted.

    No.

    My point is that the political policies advocated by the elites of contemporary white nations are, ipso facto, white genocide – and the elitists are fully aware of it and want it more than anything on heaven or earth.

    In terms you will understand, Iblis is the ruler of the western elites.

  159. @Anon

    A Tamil woman killed Gandhi’s son.

    And in general, there is a great deal of tension between South and North India.

    Bangladesh was affected by being West Pakistan. I can blame that on the Brits. They had some hand in the partition.

  160. eggplant says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The French “invaded” North Africa – they named it Algeria – to prevent the Barbary scum from marauding the Med as pirates.
    Their biggest mistake was thinking that a Republican education and French culture could save the locals – unfortunately a thousand years of islamic inbreeding made that impossible.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  161. eggplant says:
    @Agathoklis

    “Judeo-Christian” was popularised by Eisenhower in the 1950s and we can well imagine who made him think that was a good idea.

  162. eggplant says:
    @songbird

    A lot of Berbers (Zinedine Zidane being an example) look white – mainly because they held out for longer against the invading arab hordes.

  163. eggplant says:
    @Iris

    “The fact is that colonialism, not matter by whom, is morally wrong and politically obsolete. Period.”

    Algerians aren’t Arabs, they’re been basically colonised since the 8th century. Do you think Arab Colonialism is morally wrong?

    Iris, I expect you’ve got a moor boyfriend. Don’t come whining to us when he starts knocking you about, you’ll deserve it for your stupidity.

    • Troll: L.K
  164. eggplant says:
    @Iris

    Algeria’s main wealth at the time was its legendary agricultural potential (it used to be called the bread basket of the Roman Empire).

    You really are a complete fool. “Algeria” was the breadbasket of the Roman Empire but the lazy, savage Arab invaders didn’t understand irrigation and let their goats graze everywhere so, by the time the french arrived, it was an uncultivated mess.
    France went there because they wrongly thought they could civilise the local pirate scum. They were wrong.

  165. Jiminy says:

    The funny thing with colonialism is that it still goes on today, only in a more subtle way. A lot of it has to do with consumerism being the impetus towards mass migration. Here we have today thousands of people jumping into boats heading for Europe- they clearly want a slice of what everyone else is getting. You always hear them say that we must save them. Obviously if you sent out a message that your country is a hellhole and everyone wants to leave, then you won’t have a problem with the new colonialists. But no, they see the movies, the running tap water, the benefits, the Pepsi ads and their eyes glaze over. Come hell or high water they want to be part of your country. Of course the genuine ones want to assimilate and become part of the productive whole. Unfortunately the disingenuous ones will not and eventually use their increasing numbers to change the way of things.

  166. @eggplant

    Please read my comment number 89.

    While I respect Iris views about colonialism, I appreciate your realistic approach to analyzing historic facts. By the acknowledgment of the few Algerians whom I befriended, the Berbers are considered way more civilized than most of the invaders from the Arabian peninsula who settled in Algeria. More than a few times, while using taxi services in Paris, I would fail to guess the Berber identity of the taxi drivers as their demeanor and their behavior would make believe that they are French.

    • Replies: @Iris
  167. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Whites are too lazy to do tough physical jobs or start their own businesses.

    Typical olow IQ White hating Hinduvadi crackpot. Whites have been going down mines and running businesses for thousands of years. White workers are way more smarter and hardworking than Indian workers on average.

    Most Whites aren’t going to listen to classical music or read Shakespeare.
    They hate that stuff.

    Many are trained to hate that stuff by the Jew media.

    Most Whites want to party and have a good time. No way any White person is interested in reading literature, planning for the future, being disciplined, making sacrifices. Never gonna happen.

    Whites have easy lives and would never give that up. Most Whites don’t plan for the future anyway. If you think Whites are interested in simple and clean living, you’re wrong.

    This has to be some of the dumbest rubbish I have ever read. I have loads of White friends who read literature, listen to and perform classical music.

    Whites would rather destroy themselves than live a difficult life.

    White people have lived and thrived in difficult situations before.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
  168. Malla says:
    @Anon

    India doesn’t care about its overseas populations in Lanka, Africa, Malaysia, Carribean, etc. India treats these people as forgotten.

    Pure rubbish. India cares a lot about their diaspora. it is only in the Middle East for some reason, India keeps quite. Something about Arabs scare our diplomat.

    Indians don’t have much ethnic solidarity. A North Indian won’t care about the fate of a South Indian Tamil.

    Indians have a lot of ethnic solidarity when facing non Indians. It is only amongst ourselves that we hate each other. But Indians hate non Indians far more when given the chance.

    Hindus have zero ethnic solidarity. In this way, Hindus are the opposite of Muslims. Hindus have spent hundreds of years bowing to Muslims, sacrificing their own people.

    Even the most liberal Whites aren’t as suicidal as Hindus. The naivety, weakness, idiocy, and guilt-mentality of the Hindu are appalling.

    Hindus are n0t suicidal at all. Liberal Whites are a million times more suicidal than Hindus ever were. How are Hindus suicidal? We Hindus know very well to take care of our interests.

    Liberal Hindu media actually cares more about Hindu-Muslim riots in Gujarat than the fate of Hindu populations being oppressed in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Lanka, etc.

    Liberal Hindus make a tiny percentage of the Hindu population compared to White libtards amongst Whites.

    When Hindus were genocide in Bangladesh, Indian govt sat by for many months and did nothing.

    Both Hindus and Muslims killed each other during partition as well as Sikhs. Hindus killed many Muslims too.

    Whites have yet to reach this level of insanity.

    Are you out of your mind? Indians would never allow large numbers of foreigners into our cities like White people have. Not possible at all.
    White people easily accept Indians in positions of power like in UK and Ireland. Indians cannot stomach Sonia Gandhi. We Indians are definitely far far more racist than White people.

    • Replies: @Anon
  169. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Whites used clannish strategies to conquer and steal America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa.

    WTF. Stole land? This is why I say that we Indians are some of the congenital anti-White people on this planet. The comment of this idiot anon proves it. If White nations have to save themselves first thing is kick out most of the Indians before you even start with Jews and blacks. Mark my words.

    If Whites weren’t capable of clannishness, they wouldn’t have been able to rule India and many nonwhite countries

    Britain could rule India because they militarily conquered us. Simple. No need of clannishness like Jewish clannishness.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  170. @Malla

    I wonder if ethnocentrism is inherited, if so, we could see a new “race” of whites forming who are highly tribal. We already have Orania in South Africa which is a thriving, albeit small, community open only to Afrikaaners, this could start happening in the multiracial West soon, there has already been an influx of “white flighters” into towns on the outskirts of London for example.

    On a side note, how come you are so supportive of whites? Aren’t you Indian/Pakistani?

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @Malla
  171. @Adûnâi

    Why did the French not construct gas chambers and put those 10 mil. Algerians to death in them?

    Probably because such a method of mass killings is cartoonish to the extreme, and that if we were to plan a hypothetical genocide, it would be far more efficient to just cut off food supplies and destroy farms already in the target territories.

    But of course you know this, as you yourself are a Jew (Adûnâi being the Hebrew word for “Lord”). And you Jews will always find new ways of ruling up gentiles.

    A better option would have been to simply lord over the world, and sending all the Jews packing to their newly formed state of Israel.

  172. @Malla

    The word “Adûnâi” is Hebrew for “Lord”, in this thread this particularly trollish center has suggested that France should have erected gas chambers in Algeria, even though such a method of mass murder is impractical, most likely this was a Freudian slip as he himself thinks gas chambers are the only way to kill gorillions of people, instead of just starving them like the vile Jew Lazar Kaganovich did in the Ukraine.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  173. @Fitzman

    [The British] were and are only formidable to tribesmen and third world dictatorships

    And un-prepared, at full stretch, with almost no aircraft or veteran pilots, they also somehow hammered the best of the hi-tech Luftwaffe, of course. No French… No Yanks…. Just us. Magic, perhaps ?

    Still, let’s not dwell on a war against the wrong people, shall we ?

  174. @Anon

    Similar to how England forgot South African Whites

    Sure. Except that South African Whites were and are statistically overwhelmingly DUTCH.

    Cretin alert.

  175. @Anonymous

    The point you are making is nothing whatever to do with the Algerian war. You might as well ask why the British (or any other) media outside Belgium had no interest in the BELGIAN war in the Congo, beyond an occasional dry, detached documentary. Or why the Spanish media aren’t interested in news from Malaysia or Nepal, or the Russian media don’t focus on problems in Central America, or the Japanese media don’t follow current affairs in Poland or Nigeria or Ecuador.

    For that matter, why don’t you ask why even today neither the BBC nor any other national television (or radio) broadcasting organisation in Britain makes the slightest attempt to keep in touch with detailed Canadian, Australian or New Zealand current affairs – except for very brief headlines on massive stories (crime) or rare national disasters (bush-fires) – even though there are millions of British people with family and friends living in all of those countries ?

    In every case, the answer is the same. Most “normal” people have no real interest in (or time to devote to) what happens in other nations which, broadly speaking, have no connections to their own lives, and with whose peoples, cultures and ethnic ways of life they have nothing at all in common. Add to that in most cases (except for international politics and diplomacy) a substantive language barrier, and you have a world where most people who are grounded in their own lives and their own nations are little interested in largely incomprehensible problems on the other side of the world. Ocean barriers are just that – barriers to full, regular communication and on-the-ground understanding. Language barriers are even stronger. And that, sub-consciously, is how the vast majority of settled people in the western world have always wanted it to stay.

    Admittedly I have plenty of problems with the commercialised “Americanisation” of Europe and the wider world, from movies to Coca-Cola and from creeping terminology-corruption (“homicide”, “lawyer”, “welfare”) to police sirens (and methods), largely based on an entirely fictional picture of the USA from a corrupted Hollywood). And I have nothing but a profound, seething and murderous contempt for a disgustingly-partisan, brain-washing, left-liberal cultural-Marxist Jew-controlled BBC which, in my view, most certainly SHOULD carry hundreds of hours a week of close, expert coverage of current affairs in Canada, Australia and New Zealand where millions of British ex-pats live and work. In that context, with mass communications the barriers of ocean are less formidable than most, and the usual language problems are not applicable.

    Only those who are true, ancient, rootless cosmopolitan wanderers wish to see an entire world of rootless, unsettled people with no loyalty to anyone or anything (except themselves), and no attachment anymore to their kin at home or to their own lands – to their Blood, and their Soil. But as wiser minds than theirs have always known, that way lies the chaos of a world returned to the dark ages.

  176. @Anonymous

    20 miles or so of water

    Actually, just under 22 miles at the closest point – but most of the Channel further south is very much wider than that.

    The Channel did for Hitler too. He lost the war as soon as he lost the Channel crossing in 1940 – then he lost interest, and attacked the Soviet Union the following summer instead. If he’d kept his focus and attempted the Channel again very early the following Spring with a renewed Luftwaffe I’ve always believed Britain would have been occupied. Then, under occupation and without American troops to re-take Europe, the entire course of the war would have been very different.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  177. @Iris

    Hi… Iris…?

    Is that you, Fran ?

  178. @Anonymous

    Surely, there’s a moral here somewhere

    There has only ever been one sane, never-changing, all-important “moral” in the immoral insanity of war.

    “Make sure you win”.

  179. @Malla

    Will Whitey learn?

    Whitey learned all of this a very, very long time ago, you dumb, arrogant son of a bitch.

    But Whitey is ruled and controlled by Moslem-pet-loving JEW FILTH.

    Will you ever learn ?

  180. @Just Passing Through

    I hope you’re not suggesting that unhinged Hasbara trolls are naive, uneducated, malicious, cretinously-stupid, and sub-normally gullible suckers-up of their own stinking, worthless ethnic Hollywood “historical” garbage.

  181. @Agathoklis

    That much homosexuality ? Really ?

    “What crimes have you committed ? ”

    “Rape, murder, arson and rape”.

    “You said ‘rape’ twice”.

    “I like rape”

    Blazing Saddles, 1974

  182. Iris says:
    @Joe Levantine

    the Berbers are considered way more civilized than most of the invaders from the Arabian peninsula who settled in Algeria

    Dear Joe, this is bottom-level imperialist propaganda and not worthy of being part of your comments.

    The overwhelming bulk of current North Africans are descended from two main indigenous civilisations, Aterian (+300, 000 years) and Iberomaurusian (+30,000 years).
    They, of course, have some genetic sprinkles from their neighbours and invaders: Carthaginians, Vandals, Arabs, Sub-Saharans and West Europeans, but are mainly descended from one main indigenous population that was called alternatively Libyans, or Berbers, or Numidians in Ancient times. They call themselves Amazigh nowadays.

    Their continuous occupation of North Africa is attested by so many material proofs that no serious anthropologist would dare challenging it. For instance, Amazigh language extends far East to Egypt, far West to the Canary Islands, and far South to the Sahara.

    The Tuaregs, the only original inhabitants of the Sahara, are part of the same Amazigh people. Although they inter-married a lot with Sub-Saharans, they often look very much like their Northern Brethren.

    The Amazigh people of North Africa absorbed Arabic language as a vehicle of the Quran when they converted to Islam, and used it as a common vehicle of written civilisation, in the same manner everybody educated used Latin in Middle Age Europe.

    In isolated spots of North Africa, generally mountainous rural areas, people kept using the ancestral Amazigh language. It is also common everywhere else. In the East of France’s rural Alsace-Lorraine, rural people still speak an indigenous German patois, even though they hate Germany who occupied them for 50 years.

    French Colonial authorities have, obviously, always played on these linguistic differences, falsely presenting them as an ethnic divide. It is expected “divide and rule” imperial strategy.

    A minority of North Africans badly fall for these identity propaganda strategies.
    I am sure you know Frantz Fanon’s outstanding work “Black Skins, White Masks”: colonialism plagues colonised people’s psyche with long-lasting effects of racism and dehumanization. Some unconsciously want to look and identify to their coloniser. Best.

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  183. Iris says:

    The “Euro-Muslim” war in North Africa was planned and vetted by the Rothschilds.

    On the eve of the colonisation of Africa, France was weakened by civil war, attacked by neighbouring countries wanting to crush the French revolutionary model and plagued by famine.

    France asked Algeria for aid in cereals, agricultural products… This aid lasted from 1794 to 1815.
    Algeria’s Ottoman rulers added financial advances of several millions in the form of letters of credit, to enable France to pay its suppliers, the Jewish merchants of Algiers.

    Here is the type of grateful correspondance sent by French Revolutionary rulers to Algerian Dey Hussein, “Old Friend and Faithful Ally of the French Nation”:

    In 1827 Prime Minister Polignac and Pierre Serval, Minister of War, decided to attack Algiers in order to restore the wealth of France exhausted by numerous defeats, and above all, to establish French control over the Mediterranean, which was locked by its arch-enemy England’s bases in Gibraltar and Malta.

    France feared the enemy lockdown of its own provinces and Mediterranean ports. It was through Algeria that she wanted to rebuild her colonial empire in Africa, and then further in the Middle East. It was decided to create a casus belli, a trade dispute that would then produce a diplomatic incident justifying the colonisation war.

    That was an ancient strategy. Napoleon was convinced that France could compete with England only in the Mediterranean; he, also, attempted to build a colonial empire in North Africa by 1808, but had to postpone his plans due to the Russian campaigns.

    So France stopped paying its debts on one hand, with Algiers-based Jewish merchants Baruch and Bacri incessantly demanding that Dey Hussein pay his letters of credit on the other hand. Dey Hussein sent letters to Charles X asking him to respect their agreements.

    The English consul in Algiers, a long time ally of Algeria, reassured the Dey that “France could not afford to attack Algiers, and if it tried to do so, England would oppose it.”
    What the Dey did not know was that the Rothschild family had in view that peace in Europe would be favorable to the development of their affairs, so they established a secret agreement between France and England and asked the French for the protection of the Jews of Algeria, in exchange for their collaboration in preventing any English retaliation.

    Through the Algeria expedition, the Rothschild put an end to the war between England and France, protected the indigenous Jews and promoted them to European citizens, and further ensured their own prosperity.

    Receiving the French consul Pierre Deval in his court on April 1827, the Algiers Dey asked him for the King of France’s response to three “friendly” letters he had written to him. The consul replied that the King could not answer him and ended up telling outrageous words towards the Muslim religion. The Dey hit him twice or three times with slight fan shots, a fan made of peacock feathers. The Dey was ordered by France to apologize but he refused.

    The case is famously named “Le coup de l’eventail”, the “Fly Whisk Incident”.
    It was considered by France as a diplomatic incident which lead to the expedition of Algiers.

    It is actually a nice example of the “cunning” proactive provocation ways used by the cabals of imperialists and international bankers who always go hand-in-hand: Vietnam’s Golf of Tonkin, Iraq’s WMD, Libya’s Lockerbie, Syria’s “popular” insurrection, Maidan’s “repression”. What next? China’s coronavirus?

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  184. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    India cares about Indians in Western countries – America, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand. Not Fiji, Africa, Carribean, or Malaysia. Those Indians are invisible to the Indian govt because they are poor. India wants NRI remittances, especially H1bs.

    Indians have very little solidarity against Blacks, in Africa, Maurutius, and Carribean. Little solidarity in Malaysia, Middle East, and Fiji. In Canada, Tamils, Paki, and Sikh are apart. In UK, Indians and Pakis hate each other.

    If Hindus could take care of their interest, Pak and Bangla would not exist. Millions of Hindus wouldn’t have been slaughtered and raped before the Bangladesh War.

    Near the Punjab border, Hindus killed very few Muslims during partition. Sikhs mostly killed Muslims, while Muslims killed lots of Hindus and some Sikhs.

    Near the Bangladesh border, there weren’t tough Sikhs to fight back against Muslims. So less potential for violence. Few deaths.
    Cowardly Hindus refused to fight Muslims.

    India allowed in 30 million Bangla illegals. India allowed Hindu Pandit ethnic cleansing in Kashmir. Indian govt suffers from mental retardation.

    Sonia Gandhi (Italian Catholic) is very popular in India. She chose Sikh Manmohan Singh for PM. Her son Rahul Gandhi may be PM some day.

    “Hindu communal” BJP made Abdul Kalam into PM.

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  185. Malla says:
    @Anon

    If Hindus could take care of their interest, Pak and Bangla would not exist.

    Pakistan was created by the Muslim League, partly, as a reaction to increasing Hindu fundamentalism in the Congress party. There were many reasons why Pakistan was created, very complicated issue. Jinnah was in the Indian national Congress first and wanted a united Hindu Muslim response. One was the fear that we would take revenge on muslims for the brutality of the pre-British era. It was fear of Hindu majority which led to partition.

    Millions of Hindus wouldn’t have been slaughtered and raped before the Bangladesh War.

    Most of the raping and killing was been done by the Pakistani army and their supporters the locla Razzakars. Most Bangladeshis were themselves fighting against the Pakistani leadership and were not killing bangladeshi Hindus. East Pakistani (Bangladeshi) Hindus were considered traitors by the hard core Pakistani nationalists (both East and West), becuz lets be honest, we were interfering inside united Pakistan’s internal affairs by arming the ‘Mukti Bahini’. Hindus in Bangladesh were and even now are considered agents of India by Bangladeshi Islamic hyper nationalists similarly how Muslims in India are considered agents of Pakistan by Indian Hindu hyper nationalists.

    Near the Punjab border, Hindus killed very few Muslims during partition. Sikhs mostly killed Muslims, while Muslims killed lots of Hindus and some Sikhs.

    Both Hindus and Muslims massacred each other. Check the facts.

    Sonia Gandhi (Italian Catholic) is very popular in India.

    People oppose her because she is of foreign origin even if she has become an Indian citizen. While Indians in UK and USA and Canada and Ireland have become politicians and if the locals oppose it, Indians will scream “racism”. It would be impossible for us racist Indians to support/accept so many foreigners as politicians like how tolerant Whites support/accept foreign origin politicians.

    Hindu communal” BJP made Abdul Kalam into PM.

    So what? Just because of that reason, BJP is not a Hindu fundamentalist party? Who are you trying to fool? BJP has strong Hindu fundamentalist tendencies. If Hindus would be soooo tolerant and hapless like you claim, the BJP would have never come to power. Nor the Shiv Sena in Maharashtra. Does the BNP (British Nationalist Party) win in the UK?

    We might be more tolerant than many Muslim societies, I agree, but White people are freaking suicidal.

  186. Ghali says:

    Sadly, it is very anti-Arab/anti-Muslim diatribe. The “1 million European settlers”, were European colonialists/invaders, just like the American/European Jews in Palestine. It is a distortion of the true history of French terrorism in Africa, which is still ongoing.

  187. aandrews says:

    The Expendables
    William Langewiesche
    November 12, 2012

    These were dangerous delusions for officers to have, particularly because the Legion now found itself embroiled in something like a French civil war—the savage eight-year struggle over Algerian independence.

    […]

    Near the end, just when the army believed it had prevailed on the battlefield, wiser heads in France—Charles de Gaulle and the French people themselves—realized that Algeria could no longer be held. After negotiations began for a complete French withdrawal, a group of French officers hatched a plan to reverse the tide by seizing cities in Algeria, killing Charles de Gaulle, and installing a military junta in Paris. They made their move on April 21, 1961, starting with the seizure of Algiers by a regiment of Legion paratroopers under the command of Major Hélie de Saint Marc, an officer who, tellingly, is revered within the army today, for having stuck to his principles. Two additional Legion regiments joined the rebellion, as did a number of elite units of the regular French Army. The situation seemed serious enough to the government in Paris that it ordered the detonation of an atomic bomb at a Saharan test site to keep it from falling into the hands of rogue forces. But the conspiracy was hopelessly ill-conceived. On the second day, after de Gaulle appealed for support, the conscripted citizen-soldiers who made up the overwhelming majority of men in the armed forces took matters into their own hands and mutinied against the conspirators. The coup failed. The chief conspirators were arrested, 220 officers were relieved of their command, another 800 resigned, and the rebellious Foreign Legion parachute regiment was disbanded. The paratroopers were unrepentant. Some of them deserted to join the OAS, an ultra-right terrorist group that launched a bombing campaign. When the others left their Algerian garrison for the last time, they sang an Edith Piaf song, “No, I Regret Nothing.”

  188. @Iris

    Thank you Iris fir your comment that proves superior knowledge and I will save your comment In my archives for further studies.

    “French Colonial authorities have, obviously, always played on these linguistic differences, falsely presenting them as an ethnic divide. It is expected “divide and rule” imperial strategy.”

    I had mentioned in one of my comments that France’s better success stories was in Lebanon where French colonialism managed to free the Lebanese from the Ottoman’s “Milleh” system that classified people according to their religion with corresponding taxes and duties where Sunni Muslims would get many privileges whereas Christians and Shiites would be liable to some crushing burdens. Lebanon ended up governed by an elite of French university educated lawyers who started pushing against the power of feudal lords. Yet, it is true that the French, true to the modus operandi if any colonizer, played the sectarian card by allocating privileges in reverse to the Ottoman rule though not in a flagrant way as done by the Ottomans.

    However, what I am trying to emphasize is that of the diverse mosaic of religions and races who were exposed to French colonialism, we clearly discern different patterns of absorption of European culture, and this is specifically apparent in women’s rights. The Alawites and the Christians along with the high Sunni bourgeoisie ended up all empowering women during and after the French colonial rule.

    My original point of contention is that those who chose to emigrate to the country that once colonized them because of the failure of independent rule, as clearly exhibited in many post colonial societies such as Lebanon and Algeria, where civil war and corruption has inflicted great hardships on the citizens, should make an effort to blend with French society and let go of social behavior that are looked upon unfavorably by the French society. And this where I found those who call themselves Berber to be more in tune than other Algerian immigrants.

  189. Lin says:

    “Hindu communal” BJP made Abdul Kalam into PM.

    That was an attempt to placate post anti-muslim pogrom 2002 Gujarat.
    Abdul Kalam was a pro-hindu muslim.

  190. @Iris

    Thank you Iris for this very important piece of French history that nobody taught us at history classes. I would appreciate that you state your sources so the diligent reader and commenter at UR can expand his/her quest of the truth.

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  191. Pandora says: • Website

    I am not sure what people are discussing or debating. It is quite simple.

    Stop invading, colonising, exploting and terrorizing other countries and cultures.
    whether it is in Algeria, Indo-china, the Congo or anywhere else.

    Keep your own beautiful culture, and religion to yourself, do not try to make “barbarians” enlightened Christians.

    Keep the barbarisim and tribal wars ww1 and ww2 within the confines of Europe.

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  192. Tony Hall says:

    I first saw the Battle of Algiers when I was 19 years old in Marrakesh Morocco. The year was 1970. I am Canadian from Toronto and I was just beginning my coming-of-age adventure, taking about a year to backpack and explore, as it turned out, Europe and several parts of Africa. Seeing the movie was itself a revelation. I was introduced to an images of colonization and anti-colonial struggle that were new to me. What was even more illuminating, though, was the response of the Moroccan audience who were very enthusiastically cheering on the Arab side in the confrontations. It was a moment where some of my naivety about my own orientation to the worldwide phenomenon of colonization and decolonization started to fall away. My inclination was to join with the Arabs in cheering on their side of resistance to the French forces of imperial rule. Algeria definitely wasn’t France.

  193. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Would you describe British conflict against Hindus in India as a “Euro – Indian” race war? I highly doubt it.

  194. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    The irony is I bet the author or most posters here wouldn’t agree that India separating from the UK was a “race war”. Just typical irrational anti-Muslim sentiment basically.

  195. @Agathoklis

    “Name me one Celtic Epic poem, philosophy discourse or scientific tract?”
    I’m scratching around a bit here, but there’s the Druids & Stone Henge. (they had epic poems but lacking a written language such poems had to be passed orally)
    A quick search comes up with chariots, the long now, chain mail & the iron plow as Celtic inventions. Boudicca & Vercingetorix are tragic heroes. They also sacked Rome. They were notable for inventing quite a few musical instruments & for their metal work generally.

  196. @Malla

    What Hindu fundamentalist policies has the BJP passed? Has it actually done anything to marginalise Muslims? O have heard that Muslims have their own law in India when it comes to personal matters like marriage, a remnant of the colonial era when we British wanted things to roll along as smoothly as possible, has the BJP scrapped this law?

    What the other commenter said seems to be true, Islam is a much stronger binding force than Hinduism as the latter is not even a real religion. Unlike in Islam, there is no brotherhood of Hindus due to the fact that they are so ethnically diverse and their beliefs are not monolithic like Islam (where the major divide is Sunni/Shia, but both those communities have large numbers of people). As a result, there is no such thing as a “Hindu community”, this problem is made worse by the caste system.

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  197. Seraphim says:
    @Malla

    Before Felice Vinci it was Iman Jacob Wilkens (1936-2018) who in 1990 came up with the revolutionary theory that Troy was in reality in England, in his book ‘Where Troy once stood’ (revised edition 2012). Although ignored or derided by the academia, his arguments are hard to refute, even if some of them are not entirely convincing.
    @https://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/
    @http://troy-in-england.com/default.htm
    But his theory would better match with the newest approaches to the origins of the Indo-European languages initiated by the late Italian linguist and professor emeritus at the University of Utrecht, Mario Alinei (1926-2018).
    I never tire to recommend the site he created and where his disciples continue his work with brilliant results:
    “The Paleolithic Continuity Paradigm for the Origins of Indo-European Languages. International PCP Workgroup Website”@http://www.continuitas.org/index.html

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  198. Z-man says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Globalists, Internationalists, NEOCON’s, what do they all have in common?

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  199. Adaam says:

    ISLAM AGAINST TERRORISM •

    [MORE]

    1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
    2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
    3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
    4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.
    5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
    6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
    7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
    8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
    9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
    10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.
    Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”
    In other words, the Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell– quite the opposite.
    When speaking of the 7th-century situation in the Muslim city-state of Medina, which was at war with pagan Mecca, the Quran notes that the polytheists and some Arabian Jewish tribes were opposed to Islam, but then goes on to say:
    5:82. ” . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers [Muslims] those who say: ‘We are Christians.’ That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.”
    So the Quran not only does not urge Muslims to commit violence against Christians, it calls them “nearest in love” to the Muslims! The reason given is their piety, their ability to produce holy persons dedicated to God, and their lack of overweening pride.
    (For a modernist, liberal interpretation, see this pdf file, “Jihad and the Islamic Law of War.”

  200. Vojkan says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The French have colonised Algeria, then nominally under Ottoman rule but in reality an anarchy made of a mosaic of conflicting clans and tribes, to end piracy in the Mediterranean. For nearly four centuries, French ships have been the target of Barbaric (today Berber) pirates and French young women taken and sold on white slave markets to populate harems are not just a bad French commercial cinema fiction. The mistake the French made was that instead of simply annihilating the barbarians, they were arrogant enough to set to civilise them.
    The ‘French bad, Algerians good’ stereotype is just leftist rubbish that makes complete abstraction of the historical context in which France invaded the northern coast of Africa, then called the Barbary Coast for good reason.
    I think events since de Gaulle’s decision to disengage from Algeria have amply proven him right just as they have proven the total idiocy of his successors’ policy to allow in millions of Algerians who nearly sixty years after independence still blame France for Algeria being a failed state. The bloody civil war Algeria has gone through in the 1990s certainly wasn’t France’s fault and yet its savagery surpassed anything the French have done in the 132 years of their occupation, during which the French also set to build schools and hospitals and the University of Algiers (in 1909).

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  201. @Malla

    Britain could rule India because they militarily conquered us. Simple. No need of clannishness like Jewish clannishness.

    Whites would be better off if they developed the type of family and ethnic clannishness that’s found among Jews, Indians, Middle Easterners, Italians, and other types of swarthy West Asians.

    If Whites have one major weakness as race, it’s their individualistic nature. Individualism doesn’t work when you live in a multicultural globalized world full of tribalistic and/or family-centered peoples. Group strategy beats individual strategy every time.

    Indians are very clannishness, but their population is too divided by caste, language, religion. So it’s easy for cohesive outside groups to divide and conquer India, as the British did back a hundred years ago. Indians have nothing to glue all these caste groups together, so they’re weak as a nation.

    Muslims are similar to Indians in some ways. Clannish, but divided by language, denominations (Sunnis vs Shiites), and family clans. However, Islam is a glue that can temporarily unify Muslims against non-Muslims, while encouraging them to be very militaristic and produce many children. Muslims are more virile and united than Hindus. The weakness of Muslims is that they have low-quality people, who are incompetent, lazy, and often insane. Muslims can riot and fight Jihad, but they can’t produce much of economic or technological value. Even their temporary unity tends to collapse once the non-Muslim enemy is gone, so the previous conflicts (Sunni vs Shiite, clan vs clan, Arab vs Persian) erupt again.

    If Indian and Muslim immigrants are flourishing in Western countries (US, England, Canada), it’s because Jewish rulers are working hard to suppress White racial consciousness, bring in foreigners, and impose non-white multiculturalism. The end result is that White populations are having their identities and ethnic bonds broken, creating a very individualistic low-cohesion population in which tribalist groups (Indians, Jews, Muslims) can do well through group strategy. In Western countries (especially America), Indians are taking over the software industry and becoming very wealthy. Meanwhile, in Western Europe, Muslims are having huge numbers of children (supported through generous welfare programs) and aggressively taking over large parts of Western European cities through intimidation, violence, and sexual harassment.

    In China, there’s no Jewish rule. Chinese is ruled by Han Chinese, for the benefit of Han Chinese. In China, the govt promotes Han ethnic nationalism to the masses. Today’s China is like America and England were back 100 years ago. So Indians can’t push their way in and displace the Han Chinese. There are close to zero Indian software programmers in China and no permanently settled Indian population. If China ever wants to destroy India, it can turn different castes, languages, and religions against each other. Or it can continue to support Pakistan and have it fight India.

    There are Muslims in China (mostly in Xinjiang). They decided to be aggressive against the Han Chinese, so the Chinese Communist Party is now crushing their religion.

    Many of these clannish groups (Indians, Muslims) can do well in individualistic societies, but they have a difficultly when they come into contact with large, competent, and cohesive groups (such as the Chinese today or the British of 100 years ago).

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  202. @Z-man

    “Globalists, Internationalists, NEOCON’s, what do they all have in common?”

    A hatred of justice, peace and humankind.

  203. Malla says:
    @Iris

    Thank you Iris, I had always suspected that European colonialism was driven by Jewish banking interests. Using European empires to spread their usury based banking system around the world after spreading it in Europe after centuries of European resistance. The old use the West/ White world as weapon against the rest of the World via invasion and then use the rest of the world as weapons against the West/ White World via immigration as revenge. In both these actions the Zio elites escape blame scot free. Similarly use Muslims and Christians as weapons against each other (who opened the gates of Iberian cities to the invading Moors?). Old Jewish tricks.
    And most of the benefits of Colonialism (there were many losses too) was sucked up by the Zio elites, elites like the Rothschilds, Sassoons, Schusters etc…. Satanic Zio elites drove colonialism but later they also drove anti-colonialism and communism as well as post colonial and Marxist studies.

    However on the other hand. Now the non White world had many good rulers, kings and sultans many a times the rulers in our parts of the world were scumbag tyrants. And while it is true that there have been cases of brutality committed by Whites on non Whites (Spaniards in Meso America, Massacre of the native Tasmanians etc…), with time colonialism became more benign and European/ Japanese colonial officers became good rulers of the colonies and brought a lot of needed development. Indeed more interaction the brown black world had with the White Yellow world, more the improvement in quality of life in the long term. Colonialism brought much needed development, pushed societies out of medievalist and in some cases primitive tribal age to a better modern age. Actually after the end of colonialism, we had return of third world rulers who were far more corrupt and ruthless than the earlier colonial officers. But because they had the right dark skin colour, it was more acceptable to the “international community”. Most brown blacks are low IQ thug types and thus they choose strongman politicians who end up sucking the people dry. Does not matter if it is democracy, dictatorship including Communism. This is the most common story. The White Colonial gentlemen officers were far far better as rulers than most of these thug scum bag goons. And many of these scum bag goons take their orders from the Rothschild and similar blood sucking cretins.

  204. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Or is a more likely explanation that Muslims cannot live in a secular country? Jinnah actually wanted Pakistan to be a secular, Muslim majority democracy, it only became de jure Islamic after some army general started emphasising these values to strengthen the bond between the constituent races and cultures of West Pakistan, as a counterweight to the ethnically homogenous East Pakistanis, very similar to what Modi is doing nowadays.

    India’s biggest mistake

    1) not clearing the Muslims from its territories after partition, it could have easily been done back then as the Muslim population was much much smaller

    2) not partitioning Kashmir along communal lined and giving the Muslim part to Pakistan.

    But it is too late for that now, enjoy being accused of atrocities and discrimination against minorities, as the Muslims cry out in pain while they strike you.

    I also find it peculiar how self-hating you are, of course it is not good to be blindly ultra-nationalist, but who honestly takes the side of other races over his own, you would have no doubt made a perfect sepoy back in the day. Enjoy getting cucked by a hybrid attack of Abrahamic Semites, chinks and wh*te people, and while you are at it, why not blindly repeat the alt-right talking points of da jooz? After all, you might be accepted into white society by repeating their talking points.

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  205. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    India did sneakily help the Tamil Tigers and that is why Sri Lankan Sinhalese leaders like Rajapaksa (present leader of Sri Lanka) are so anti Indian.

    This is a young Sinhalese nationalist Rajapaksa and his view about India.

    India could not overtly support the Tamils because
    1] India had/has its own separatist movements and there were fears earlier of Sri Lanka getting too close to Pakistan. Sri Lanka had helped Pakistan during the Bangladeshi war of Independence from West Pakistan. Sri Lanka had repeatedly helped Pakistan during Indo-Pak wars.
    2] Tamils do not control India and the Central Government itself had fears of Tamil power. India has a state called Tamil Nadu deep south and the people there are suspicious of North Indians. So much so that they are totally against the influence of the Hindi language in South India. They prefer English as a national language to Hindi.

    And guess what, Israel was involved on both sides of the Sri Lanka Tamil war, supplying weapons to both the Tami Tiger revolutionaries / terrorists and the Sri Lanka Armed forces!!! Indeed Israel was also involved in the assassination of the Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi which was blamed on a Tamil LTTE rebel patsy.

    What is so strange is that the Aboriginal Australian (with Caucasian mixture obviously) looking Buddhist Sinhalese speak an Aryan language Sinhalese (English and Swedish are part of this huge language family) similar to languages spoken by the more Caucasoid looking North Indians while the equally Aboriginal looking Tamils speak a Dravidian language, Tamil.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @RSDB
    , @Jeff Stryker
  206. @Vojkan

    While my comment 89 answers some of your points, I validate your claim about North African piracy and enslavement of European man and women, especially so by the founder of the current dynasty of Morocco Sidi Ismail, who put many thousand European and other prisoners from piracy into slavery building his castles and had the temerity to ask for the hand of the daughter of Louis XIV, with the French court’s answer a polite ‘no’ with a valuable gift as a an appeaser.

    Yet, piracy could have been solved by a threat of war or by a punitive military response but not by colonialism. As I have stated in comment 89, the French attempt to draw the Muslim North Africans into the Western fold was not realistic at all and De Gaulle was a wise man to have given Algerians independence despite France’s military advantage against the FNL and thereby spare his hometown a name change from “ Colombey Les Deux Eglises to Colombey Les Deux Mosquees” as stated in one of his comments. Any universal French citizenship to Algerians would have made of France’s demographic balance already what it is destined to become in forty years, namely the first Muslim majority county in Europe.

  207. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve had a copy of this film sitting on my desk for the last ten years. I’ve seen it many times and never tire of watching it or reading about the events leading up to Algerian independence. I think it is the historical key to the definition (and ruination) of modern France.

    Thanks for the added links.

  208. Hossein says:

    The war in Algeria was not a Euro Muslim war and rather a struggle for independence from yoke of French Colonialism/ Imperialism. Dressing up the conflict racially and religiously is misguided .
    True that Islam played a role in galvanizing the Algerian nation but it was Arab nationalism that was the main cause.

    The same can be said about the French defeat in Indochina.

    As for the movie, it told the truth about the barbarity and savagery of French colonialism and in general European Imperial and colonial ambitions that are still ongoing ‘ on behalf of their masters, The Zionist Jews.

    True that FLN members committed atrocities but that is the outcome of colonialism itself .
    The writer does not even mention the Harkis, traitors, and simply delves into the stupid and outdated orientalist cliche of calling true Arab nationalists as ” terrorists”. A truly cheap shot .

  209. @Agathoklis

    Christianity comes from Judaism. There is no need to explicitly say “Judeo-Christian” because that would just be redundant. Stop trying to drive a wedge between Jews and Christians. Enough of your anti-Semitism already!

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  210. Emslander says:
    @Agathoklis

    Europe is a Roman Catholic Christian culture and civilization.

  211. Emslander says:

    India’s biggest mistake
    1) not clearing the Muslims from its territories after partition, it could have easily been done back then as the Muslim population was much much smaller

    Laughable proposition. If we have learned anything from the history of post-WWII insurgencies, you cannot clear Islam from anywhere without creating an endless conflict that results in Islamic domination. The faithful reproductive principles of the Islamic people win every time. I say that out of admiration.

    • Replies: @Malla
  212. Robjil says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Here is a tale where Guggenheim was fooled. Yad Vashem too. Odd tale. Big 6 is such a big Sun, replaced the old sun in 1945, it hurts one’s eyes to look at things clearly these days.

    https://www.dw.com/en/artist-rosemarie-koczy-allegedly-faked-her-holocaust-survivors-story/a-41301763

    Rosemarie Koczy’s works are in the collections of the Guggenheim in New York and of Yad Vashem in Israel. She claimed to be a Jew and Holocaust survivor. Now historians say that her life story was forged.

    Works by Rosemarie Koczy are part of the collections of the Guggenheim Museum in New York as well as Yad Vashem’s, Israel’s official memorial to the victims of the Holocaust. Her works are however not part of Yad Vashem’s permanent exhibition nor are they currently on display.

    “Her works are part of the Yad Vashem Art Collection which contains art created before, during and after the Holocaust by Holocaust victims, survivors and artists who felt inclined to relate to the Shoah,” spokesperson Simmy Allen told DW in a written statement. “Regardless of Koczy’s contested status as a survivor, her art is a response to the Holocaust and the works continue to be relevant to our collection which is where they shall remain.”

  213. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Or is a more likely explanation that Muslims cannot live in a secular country?

    That is kind of true. Of course there are broadminded modern Muslims who can but most Muslims cannot. Of Muslims are only supposed to live in Dar al-Islam/ Dar al-Tawhid, not in land of kaffirs.

    India’s biggest mistake

    1) not clearing the Muslims from its territories after partition, it could have easily been done back then as the Muslim population was much much smaller

    2) not partitioning Kashmir along communal lined and giving the Muslim part to Pakistan.

    Agree.

    Rest of your post, I disagree. I had a lot of such idiotic accusations of House Negro and sepoy and what not. But I think this is used against people who say harsh truths by childish people who cannot accept facts. I am bored of these childish antics.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  214. Malla says:
    @Emslander

    The faithful reproductive principles of the Islamic people win every time. I say that out of admiration.

    Spain did it. The Burmese are doin it right now. Russia did it upto some extent in earlier Ottoman lands like the Circassians kicked out to Turkey.

  215. @Joe Levantine

    It’s analogous to saying that Africans shouldn’t have been enslaved in America … how do you rectify a colossal blunder?

  216. Malla says:
    @Vojkan

    Very true
    The Western movement for the abolition of slavery is believed to have grown out of the tradition of Christian charity and ransoming of slaves.

    “The Knights Hospitaller, also known as the Knights of St. John, began their occupation of Rhodes in 1309. They began a new identity as the “Knights of Rhodes” and began to engage the Barbary Pirates in naval warfare, as part of their greater war on the Ottoman Empire.

    “To protect Rome from Islamic invasion, in 1530 Charles V deeded the island stronghold of Malta to the knights. The newly christened “Knights of Malta” widened their war against the pirates and their Ottoman masters to include the entire Mediterranean. From the 16th century until 1798, Malta served as a bastion defending Europe against the corsairs and pirates of Algeria and Barbary…”

    First Barbary War

    The lure of power, money, and slaves brought many adventurers from around the Mediterranean to the North African coastal towns. One of them, Khair ad Din, known as Barbarossa (“Red Beard”), seized Algiers in 1510, with the stated purpose of protecting it from the Spaniards. He was subsequently appointed regent over the territory, after recognizing the sovereignty of the Ottoman Sultan over the African coast.

    The Barbary Coast of Northern Africa consisted of the four states of Algiers, Morocco, Tripoli, and Tunis. The “Barbary Pirates” had for centuries captured vessels sailing the Atlantic and the Mediterranean. They occasionally raided coastal villages to capture Christian slaves, such as a village in southern Ireland, which was said to have been entirely captured by Muslim raiders.

    Earning their living by blackmail, tribute, piracy and slavery, the Barbary Pirates received yearly sums of money, ships, and arms from foreign powers. Those who payed their tribute were allowed to sail unmolested along the Barbary Coast, and trade in the African ports. Those who did not had their ships seized and their crews held for ransom or sold into slavery. In 1662, England agreed to pay an annual tribute, in return for free passage along the Barbary Coast.

    Religion was a factor, the Barbary Pirates were Muslims. Those they preyed upon were exclusively Christians, and if not released through the payment of tribute, faced slavery or worse. Those few who converted to Islam escaped slavery, and were treated as equals. If any Christian dared to blaspheme Allah, he risked being impaled or roasted alive. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, serving at the time as European Ministers, asked the ambassador from Tripoli why his government sanctioned such savagery. He replied that the Koran stated that non-Muslims were “sinners,” and Muslims had a “…right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners.”

    “Contemporary scholars estimate that over 1 million white Christians from France and Italy to Spain, Hol­land, Great Britain, the Americas, and even Iceland were captured between 1500 and 1800. The blood­curdling tales of brutality and horror that awaited Christians unlucky enough to fall victim to the Bar­bary Pirates were widely known, although sometimes wildly exaggerated.” Victory in Tripoli: Lessons for the War on Terrorism by Joshua E. London

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Alden
  217. Malla says:
    @Malla

    By the 18th Century, the fearsome reputation of the Barbary Pirates, and self-interest, had led most of the European powers to routinely pay the tribute demanded. The Europeans, who had strong navies, found it easier to pay tribute to the Barbary states than to try to suppress it, since it achieved the strategy of reserving the Mediterranean to those who were wealthy. During the Colonial period, the American colonies, under the protection of Great Britain, developed a prosperous trade throughout the Mediterranean.

    For the duration of the War of Independence, American ships sailed under the protection of the 1778 alliance with France, which directed French vessels to protect “American vessels and effects against all violence, insults, attacks, or depredations, on the part of the said Princes and States of Barbary or their subjects.” At the conclusion of the war in 1783, American shipping was once more left defenseless, so in 1784 Congress appropriated $80,000 in tribute money to the Barbary states, and directed Jefferson and Adams to begin negotiations.

    The first American ship to be captured was the brig Betsey, captured in the Atlantic by Moroccans in 1784. America was a new nation, and the Moroccans had never before seen an American flag. Any Christian ship was assumed to be fair game, however, as it was taken for granted that they were at war with every Christian nation, unless a peace treaty had been signed.

    Morocco, however, out of all the Barbary States, had a stable dynasty, with control over the interior, a regular food supply, and extensive Saharan trade routes. As a trading nation, the Emperor of Morocco was willing to negotiate a treaty, and one was signed, freeing the Betsy and her crew after six months of imprisonment. Morocco became the first neutral nation to recognize the United States.

    Two ships, the Maria of Boston and the Dauphine of Philadelphia, were captured by Algiers in 1785, and their crews of 21 men enslaved. A ransom of almost $60,000 was demanded by the dey of Algiers, but it would be ten years before the surviving eleven were released.

    The nation’s first Secretary State, Thomas Jefferson, told Congress it must choose “…between war, tribute and ransom.” He believed war was the only reasonable choice, and advocated the creation of a navy. Tribute paid to the pirates was “money thrown away,” and the only thing they truely understood was gunpowder and shot. Just as Luther 250 years earlier, Jefferson called for a united military alliance among the European powers, along with America, to blockade North Africa and provide for a military solution against the pirates.
    “Would to Heaven we had a navy to reform those enemies to mankind, or crush them into non-existence,” said George Washington in 1786. Said one American envoy, “There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror.”

    By 1794, Algiers had captured 11 American vessels and taken over 100 prisoners. In 1795 Congress agreed to their ranson by authorizing a payment of cash, munitions, a 36-gun frigate, and an annual tribute of $21,600 worth of naval supplies. In 1799, agreements were negotiated with Morocco, Algiers, and Tunis. Tripoli agreed not to attack American shipping, in return for an annual tribute of $18,000.

    The Barbary Pirates, though discriminating against Christians, were businessmen, much like the Mafia. It was reported that ransom rates were set at a fixed price: $4,000 for a passenger, $1,400 for a cabin boy. In the coastal towns of Salem, Newport, and Boston, the names of those who were captured by the Barbary Pirates were read aloud each Sunday in the churches, just as those who were lost at sea. Most of the ransom had to be raised privately, as Congress was unable or unwilling to pay the full asking price.

    By 1800 a new slogan was beginning to appear across the new country, “Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.”

    “By 1800, the annual tribute and ransom payments first agreed in the mid-1780s amounted to about $1 million–20% of the federal budget. (For fiscal year 2007, 20 percent of U.S. revenues would equal $560 billion.)” The Colonial War Against Islam

    Finally in 1801, with Jefferson as the new President, the country had enough. Three months after Jefferson’s inauguation, after refusing to pay Tripoli’s demand for immediate payment of $225,000 and an annual payment of $25,000, the Bashaw of Tripoli cut down the flagstaff at the U.S. consulate and declared war. Jefferson ordered the frigates President, Essex, and Philadelphia and the sloop Enterprise, under Commodore Richard Dale, to patrol the North African coast and to bombard Tripoli.

    In September, 1803 Captain Edward Preble was given command of the American fleet. He soon convinced the Sultan of Morocco to stop preying on American shipping by sailing the Constitution into the harbor of Tangiers, and pointing the cannon at the Sultan’s palace.

    In December, the Captain of the sloop Enterprise, Lt. Stephen Decatur, captured an enemy ketch, a small four-gun vessel which could be rowed. On the night of February 15, 1804, with 74 volunteers disguised as North Africans, he used this captured vessle to slip into Tripoli harbor. Coming alongside the Philadelphia in the dark, and using grappling hooks to draw the ships together, his men used tomahawks to kill twenty Muslim guards, and chased the rest overboard. They then set the ship on fire, and escaped from the harbor unscathed, under bombardment from the harbor fortress.

    For this successful operation, Lt. Stephen Decatur, then just 25 years of age, was given promotion to the rank of Captain, the youngest man in U.S. Navel history to be so honored.

    On August 3 that same year, Captain Preble and his squadron began a bombardment of Tripoli harbor. In engagements with the enemy, American sailors participated in fierce hand-to-hand fighting, capturing three Barbary gunboats and sinking one. In one engagement, outnumbered three to one, they killed twenty-one pirates and took 15 prisoners. Their commander, Lt. John Trippe, killed the Turkish captain with a pike, after suffering eleven wounds.

    The only American casualty during these actions was Captain Decatur’s younger brother, James, who was murdered by the captain of a pirate ship, after it had feigned surrender. Decatur challenged the Muslim murderer to a duel, and killed him in what was described as savage hand-to-hand combat.

    Over time, Captain Preble and his sqadron returned five times to bombard Tripoli, but because of a lack of manpower, could not make a landing and seize the fortress. His successor, Captain Samuel Barron, commanded the largest fleet to sail under the American flag up to that time: six frigates, seven brigs, and ten gunboats.

    William Eaton, an ex-Army officer appointed consul to Tunis in 1798, along with special diplomat James L. Cathcart tried to work out a settlement. They believed that to effect a peace with Tripoli, they needed to reinstate the exiled Hamet Karamanli to the throne. This ruler had been overthrown and exiled by his brother Yusuf. William Eaton returned to the United States of America to present their plans to the Congress. In 1804, with $20,000 in cash, the brig Argus, and a force of nine men, he returned to the Mediterranean with the new title “Navy Agent to the Barbary States” and permission to carry out his plans.

    In 1805, in Alexandria Egypt, he recruited an army of 300 Arab mercenaries, three dozen Greeks, and ten Americans, including eight United States Marines, command by 1st Lt. Presley O’Bannon. On March 8, 1805, they left Alexandria and headed West, marching overland through 500 miles of desert, supported by the Argus offshore. On April 27 they stood before the walls of the fortress of Derna (Tripoli), and William Eaton ordered the attack. The U.S.marines and Greek mercenaries charged the walls and managed to take the town, which was the first city in the Old World to be captured by Americans.

    William Eaton was wounded by a musket ball through the wrist, and two marines and twelve Greeks were causualties. Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon was cited for bravery in the battle for Derna, and presented the “Mameluke” sword, still carried by Marines officers today. This battle is further remembered by the line in the Marine Corp Hymn “From the Halls of Montezuma, To the Shores of Tripoli.”

    Though Eaton had won the battle and the city, or perhaps because of it, a settlement was negotiated with Yusuf, the ruler of Tripoli, which released all Christian prisoners and ended the practice of seizing ships and taking slaves. The other Barbary coastal cities were not subdued, however. Algiers captured three ships in 1807, and received a ranson of $18,000 for the release of the crews.

    For the three years of the War of 1812 (1812-1814) English warships were dominant on the High Seas and the Mediterranean. With the American Navy no longer a threat, the Dey of Algiers announced his new “…policy to increase the number of my American slaves.” In August of 1812 Algiers captured the brig Edwin and enslaved its crew, who suffered for three years until the war’s end.

    Finally, on March 2, 1815, the United States Congress approved action against Algiers, and Commodore Decatur and Commodore Bainbridge were each given command of a naval squadron. Commodore Decatur captured the Dey’s flagship, along with 486 prisoners, and sent an ultimatum: “Free every slave at once, pay an indemnity of $10,000 to the survivors of the brig Edwin, and cease all demands for tribute forever.”

    After the conclusion of the Napoleonic wars, which ended in 1815, inspired by America’s example, Great Britian and Holland ended their policies of appeasement by bombarding Algier’s fleet and fortresses. Franch began it’s long colonial relationship with North Africa by conquering Algiers and making Tunis and Morocco protectorates. Italy overthrew the Bashaw of Tripoli and formed the new state of Libya. It was 19th century colonialism that finally put an end to centuries of North African piracy, just as it was the Western nations that finally ended the Slave Trade.

    Unfortunately the slave trade, taking of captives for ranson, and terrorism lives on Islamic societies.

    • Thanks: Vojkan
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Iris
  218. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    The Jews are ultimately like any other race of people, they look after their own first and foremost, they just seem to be better at doing it than others, which ends up driving the narrative that they are the only ones doing it (after all, who will focus on a small liquor store robbery when some other group has robbed the big bank down the street). The Jewish role in colonialism is usually hidden away as Jews are very neurotic and cannot sustain the smaller of criticisms, for example the South Africa company was bankrolled by Rothschild, however nowadays it is goy Cecil Rhodes who has his statue torn down, but nevertheless, gentile whites were involved and they did it for materialistic purposes, perhaps some managed to engage in the self-deception of White Man’s Burden, but this was just a ruse and rationalisation, much like how these former colonial subjects now rush into their former colonial masters lands for purely materialistic reasons, yet make up things about natives being too lazy, or too old, to do work.

    Interestingly, there was a something akin to “Aryan Invasion Theory” pushed upon British people a few years ago in which they found that early Britons had dark skin, I don’t know how true this was, but it was leapt upon by the pro-immigration groups to show that dark skinned people were just as “native” s the white skinned people, kind of ironic how the same, demoralising propaganda is being pushed huh?

    The Jews are a necessary, but not sufficient conditions for this sort of stuff to happen, it is a white nationalist (and I don’t use that term in a demeaning fashion) cope that it is all the fault of the Jews, which stems from an unwillingness to accept that members of your own groups can advance interests that are bad for the group.

  219. Malla says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Excellent post. All very true. The truth is Whites will have to become clannish to survive in the hell hole Multicultural nightmare West made by Jews post WW2. But Whites can be individualistic again if they get a land of their own with no outsiders.
    See an Englishman cannot be an Englishman, a German cannot be a German or a Japanese cannot be a Japanese is a mix motley multi racial society. But an Arab can surely be an Arab, an Indian an Indian and even a Jew can be a Jew in such a mix motley society. The Anglos, the Germans and the Japanese would be cornered. Some third worlder thuggard would bombastically exclaim how the darkies and riff raffs are thus superior by being more dominant. But the combined mix motley society will soon turn into a low trust shithole with a lot of tragedy of the commons. In other words the place will become like the typical Middle Eastern, African or South Asian hellhole.
    That is why British people had their clubs wherever they went in their vast Empire, clubs where darkies could not enter, so that far away from home, they could be British again.There was a deep wisdom in those British clubs. Or why Japanese do not allow non Japanese into many spas. The non Japanese would lower the standard of behavior.
    So large numbers of brown blacks will easily recreate the shitholes they were running away from. It just cannot be helped, it is deep in the DNA, deep in the racial soul.
    That is why White and some Yellow societies were meant to be like English clubs, very selective on who would get membership. But like fools, White nations have allowed the floatsom of the world to float into their lands and now their lands stink. Why surprised??

    but they have a difficultly when they come into contact with large, competent, and cohesive groups (such as the Chinese today or the British of 100 years ago).

    That is kind of true. Brown blacks would have a lot of problem facing high IQ White Yellows as long as we are outside the border of the White Yellow society.

  220. @Anonymous

    Of course, England stripped France of the colonies that *really* mattered, Canada, India etc,

    John Cabot reached what is now Canada, 1n 1497, and claimed it for England. Jacques Cartier reached what is now Canada more than 30 years later and claimed it for France. The Scandinavians had already been attempting to colonize the New World for 500 years prior to Cabot. The Dutch began colonizing in the early 1600s. The Hudson Bay Company was given, in 1670, a “land grant” of that was approximately 40% of what is now Canada, and included what land in what is now the USA.

    In India, the East India Company had, for all intents and purposes, a private army to push the French out of areas. The British had arrived at approximately the same time in India, just in different places.
    Spain “owned” Holland and tried to invade England in 1588,

    Those territorial battles had been going on for over a century and weren’t settled until 1756.
    Who “stripped” whom of what is moot.
    Recent discoveries in Nova Scotia have suggested a planned European presence going back to the 1200s. Who it is, is unknown at this time.

  221. @Amerimutt Golems

    This is the reason de Gaulle pulled out of NATO.

    I think that is too simplistic. While de Gaulle had an enormous ego, and his pride would have undoubtedly been damaged, he was neither Prime Minister nor President in 1956. He was, in fact, retired and at home writing his memoirs. He returned to political life because of Algeria.
    I suspect de Gaulle pulled out of NATO because he understood where it was heading – an American front organization. Along with that, in the 1950s and 60s, the Communist Party and other parties of “the left” in France, had a very large political presence. Whatever de Gaulle thought of them, he knew a considerable portion of the French electorate was opposed to NATO. Pulling out would mollify a large number of those voters to his advantage, as even the “leftist” government(s) preceding him had not.

    • Replies: @Alden
  222. @Dave Bowman

    Would that be the same Hitler who, after kicking their asses at Dunkirk, offered them peace, just as they had done to the French when their invasion was pushed out in 1939?
    Say whatever you want about Hitler and the NSDAP policies, but war wasn’t on their short list of things to do. They attacked the USSR when their intelligence showed 160 Soviet Divisions and half its air force (and still massing) at their border in attack formation, with defensive fortifications cut.
    As Leon DeGrelle said, had the Germans not attacked, Stalin would have been standing in Calais looking across the Channel to England.

  223. aandrews says:

    The Criterion Collection release…

  224. @Derek Jeter

    Stop trying to drive a wedge between Jews and Christians. Enough of your anti-Semitism already!

    Are you a troll, or simply a cretin?

    “The White race is the cancer of the earth. Sooner or later it simply has to go”

    – Barbara Lerner Spectre, anti-White, anti-Christian racist Jew “sociologist” who runs a Jewish affairs institute in White Christian-majority Sweden, entirely at White Christian-majority Swedish tax-payers’ expense.

  225. Alden says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    Thank you, I was going to post a comment that a major motive for France colonizing Algeria was to close down the Pirate Port of Algiers. The pirates and slave raiders resurged after the Napoleonic wars. By the late 1820s France has had enough. After the conquest of Algeria the piracy and slave raids stopped.

    There were times when the Mediterranean coast of France was de populated because the French fled inland from the Algerians. The French Riviera as a vacation area did not exist until the conquest of Algeria and control of the Arab pirates. It was just too dangerous to live near the coast.

  226. Alden says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    The American Indians were not annihilated by the Whites. Their population has tripled in the last 300 years. Several Indian autonomous territories known as reservations are larger than France. The tribal governments are supported by the federal government. As individuals each Indian gets a government check every month. It’s not considered welfare. It’s something like a perpetual hereditary mortgage payment for the lands taken by the American government from their tribe since 1790. They are both American citizens and tribal members.

    They’re all over the country. For instance, there are 12 tribal autonomous territories Reservations in New York State, within a short drive from America’s largest city.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anonymous
  227. Alden says:
    @Curmudgeon

    DeGualle stated that he pulled France out of NATO because it was dangerous to entrust the safety and security of France to another country, the USA. Makes sense.

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
  228. Hudd says:
    @Agathoklis

    Tuath na Danaan
    There are lots of other lesser known Keltic works found in Irish literature.

    According to the Oera Linda the Kelts invaded Britain in 500BC and were defeated by the Frisian armies on mainland Britain. In those days the ‘Western Isles’ as the Frisians called Britain and Ireland, were part of the Frisian Confederation. Over the following years, however, the Kelts wormed their way in to control of the Western Isles and the more than 1600 years they had been part of the Frisian Confederation ended.

    The Kelts invaded to control the gold mining, which was their traditional trade. In those days gold was mined in Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and the Wicklow Mountains in Ireland. A Kelt’s status was signified by his gold torc he wore around his neck. This is the origin of the gorget worn up until today by military officers. The Greeks wrote about the Kelts going in to battle naked but for their torc, armour and weapons.

    You’ll also discover it was the Frisians that founded Athens and that Athena was actually a Frisian cheif…Frisian women held high political office and kings could do nothing without the senior ladies’ approval.

  229. brams says:

    I understand that many of the descendants of American settlers, and so this author of colonial school, in this article, identify themselves with whom claim to bring civilization to Muslim barbarians. . he reduce the uprising to a religious bias. But, If the FLN used religion to mobilize the rural masses, this was because the colonial authority, for its part, had always relied on religious dignitaries (caids and baghagha) to secure its hold over the indigenous population. the ulemas were not involved in the uprising and did not join it until later. You only have to see the photos of young Algerians, Algerians celebrating independence in 1962 to realize that they have nothing to do with the bearded men and the Burka that the Americans created by promoting the wahabism to counter nationalism. At independence, the mosques were almost empty ; Algerians weaned from manifestation of joy for 8 years now gave themselves to their heart (The FLN had prohibited during the war the celebration of marriages, circumcisions, religious festivals which were limited to the bare minimum). reading the platform of the soumam reveals more a secular influence than a religious one. http://www.premier-ministre.gov.dz/ressources/front/files/pdf/texts-fondamentaux/declsoummam56.pdf
    now trying to balance the violence of the FLN and the fierce repression of the French army and police, don’t get us the measure of what colonization was since 1830 with the massacres, spoliations, recurrent famines experienced by populations.
    Let’s not forget that the bombs in Algiers were not only a response to the napalm bombing of Algerian villages but also to stop the capital executions of FLN prisoners, including a European among them Fernand Yveton. At the end, the OAS, whose aim was to keep the natives in a state of submission, widened the gap, carrying out indiscriminate assassinations on the Algerians and liberals européens. One day it was the factors that were eliminated and whose bodies littered the sidewalks, the other it was the turn of the pharmacists and then the cleaning women. They even screened bullets for those who, like the Algerian writer Mouloud Feraoun, tried to bring communities together. On the other hand, it is true that on the Algerian side, some of « revolutionaries of the last hour » who were called the “Marsians” (cease fire of March 19) carried out assassinations but not in OAS scale. The proof is that it remained no less than 200000 pied noir after July 5. https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2008/05/DAUM/15870. They had the choice between French and Algerian nationalities, not dual nationality. At the end, without radicalism to forge unity does FLN succeed ? see what happen with the division of palestine résistance.
    Those who are interested in history, reading Yves Courrière’s “la guerre d’Algérie” is essential. Question testimony there is “Le journal” of Mouloud Ferraoun, and his correspondence with Camus. https://www.edition-originale.com/fr/la-gazette-actualites/les-revoltes-genereuses-dalbert-camus-et-mouloud-feraoun-ou-lalgerie-reconciliee-408
    PS unfortunately, all of America’s sympathy capital has disappeared with Kennedy, who still has his square in Algiers.

  230. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Same holds true for the aboriginals in Australia and New Zealand, now growing at a frightening pace

  231. @Malla

    Thank you Malla for this most informative piece of history. It sure gives ammunition for anyone arguing about the Western colonisation of the Northern Coast of Africa as having an element of self defence.

    • Disagree: L.K
  232. L.K says:
    @Iris

    There is no land to recover from North Africans; the land is theirs, they lived there for immemorial times.

    Exactly.

    The arrogance many of these scumbags show is really breathtaking.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  233. DinoN says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I wouldn’t reason with you if you want to take what is mine! That is exactly what the “Muslims & Africans” have & are doing. Who the Hell are you to take what is mine & insult me when I refuse?

    • Replies: @anon
  234. Alfred says:

    How can anyone write an article about the Algerian War of Independence without mentioning that the settlers were largely Jews and Italians. Without mentioning that 3 million Algerians died. The settlers were never Algerian any more than the Jews in Israel are Palestinians.

    The famous Jewish writer Albert Camus of “The Plague” (“La Peste”) was born in Algeria. The novel was based in Algeria. At no point in the entire book does he mention the local Algerians. What sort of integration is that? Give us a break!

    Another fiction. The OAS. They tried to assassinate de Gaulle numerous times. Where did they get their money from? Who was backing them? Who else wanted de Gaulle dead? The Americans of course. The OAS was financed by the CIA.

    1968 was a colored revolution organised by the Jews of France and the Americans. The man who replaced de Gaulle, Georges Pompidou, was a banker from Rothschild. Just like Macron.

    Algeria was a prototype of Israel. It failed. Israel will fail for similar reasons. Oil and water don’t mix in Europe or in the Middle East.

    I am really disappointed by the ignorance of Guillaume Durocher.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Vojkan
    , @Malla
    , @chris
  235. Anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K

    Saying Algeria and Morocco are rightfully French lands that they should reclaim is no different to saying India and Pakistan are rightfully British lands that the British should reclaim.

    No one would seriously suggest the latter so I’m amazed some people are suggesting the former without a hint of irony, arrogance indeed.

  236. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    “This outcome was due to President Charles de Gaulle, who had made a strategic decision: France must cut her losses in Algeria rather than face perpetual conflict.”

    This was an intelligent move, you wouldn’t be able to live with them then anymore than you can live with them now. But the left never lets history stand in their way, for that matter neither can most of the right. Biblical times God split the people, face it no one has learned anything since the beginning of history.
    You don’t all belong together. As much as people like to fantasize about utopia, it doesn’t exist in the way you want. I know most people don’t like Israel, but really it would be ok in their minds if the Arabs killed them or swamped them, but at the same time it’s the same as they feel about all Europeans too. I see Israel as a foreign nation with an intelligence apparatus no different than I would see communist China, the Israeli’s should all live in their own land, just like the rest. But that’s anti-semitic soo..
    I have always advocated that Europe should promote to White Europeans in countries like the US and Canada, to move back to Europe , rather than take in Arabs, Africans, and Asians. Give the land in America back to the Indians. Of course you couldn’t force it, but it could be encouraged the same way they encouraged people to leave Europe in the first place. I am truly of the mind that there is no future for white people here without giving up everything they believe in. There is no future for Europe with all those other people who really don’t like them and it will be the Europeans there too who give up their land, homes and traditions. Of course recommending that whites go back to Europe in our new strange land is considered raaaaaaaaaacist. It used to be all the norm. I wasn’t suggesting anyone else do anything or go anywhere outside of white Europeans.
    With all this covid stuff going on, there is no honest discussion of why this problem is here, most are so afraid of the color of the consequences.

  237. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @DinoN

    They just use the host countries stupid laws against the people, along with “Democracy”. They just vote for themselves and against you, while playing victim to your people especially the young and innocent. Bring back the King if only to get rid of them.

  238. Talha says:

    They are always welcome to try again – it would be best if they officially declare they are no longer signatories to international protocols, you know to avoid being called out as hypocrites. And then, game on – viva La France!

    And anyone here that is encouraging this action should at least (if they are male), have the testicular fortitude to be willing to march with a rifle in hand to make it happen. This is the least a self-respecting man could expect of himself. Now, neo-con pansy types who expect other men to go and kill for causes they would never ask of themselves or their own sons, well..those aren’t really men – they were simply born with a penis by chromosomal accident.

    My honest guess is that the current French don’t have the stomach for what would be required to subjugate, say, the Algerian populace as they did in the past:
    Sure, maybe they are willing to drop thermobaric munitions on this place and that from a mile up in the sky – that’s par for the course these days, but I doubt they are willing to commit the scorched earth tactics and indiscriminate killing (you know, while looking at people in the eyes and doing it) it took to bring the first Algerian resistance (in the late 1800s) to surrender:
    “Abd al-qadir did not anticipate, however, the extraordinary violence that the French would unleash on the Algerian people. General Bugeaud pursued a scorched-earth policy in the Algerian interior, designed to undermins popular support for Abd al-Qadir’s resistance – burning villages, driving away cattle, destroying harvests, and uprooting orchards. Men, women and children were killed, and officers were told to take no prisoners…Tribes and villages began to turn against Abd al-Qadir to avoid suffering the fate of his supporters…The French attack on the zimala had the desired effect. By Abd al-Qadir’s own estimate, the French killed one-tenth of the populaton of the mobile encampment. The loss of their elders, wives and children dealt a sever blow to his troops’ morale.”
    The Arabs: A History, by Prof. Eugene Rogan

    “After brief service in Algeria in 1830, he returned there in 1839 to take part in the campaign against the patriot emir of Mascara, Abdelkader. It was during this period that he gained notoriety for killing an entire local population by gassing them in caves, a tactic of irregular warfare employed by the French on several occasions during the Algerian campaign.”
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aimable-Jean-Jacques-Pelissier-duc-de-Malakoff#ref989400

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Malla
  239. Alden says:
    @Alfred

    Most of Camus books mention Arabs. An Arab murder victim is a main character in The Stranger. The Stranger is based on a true murder.

    His books are very autobiographical. He lived in a majority French ethnic city and lived among French Algerians. As many writers do, he wrote about what he knew. Had he grown up in a small town in a rural area he might have included more Arab characters and plots.

    His Dad was killed in WW1. He grew up with a brother and mother. When he was about 10, an Arab climbed up to their second story apartment and attempted to rape his mother. She and the boys managed to drive him away.

    Best selling American author John Grisham is an attorney. He lives in the American south east. Most of his books are set in the south east and most of his protagonists are men attorneys like himself.

    That’s what authors do.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Alfred
  240. Wally says:
    @Malla

    “It accused the French Army of having borrowed its ideas and methods from Nazi barbarity !”

    – “Nazi barbarity” that is claimed, but never proven.

    – It’s laughable how often absurd propaganda about “the Nazis” is put forward when someone is desperate to silence debate.

    • Agree: Malla
  241. BenKenobi says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Whites are at an evolutionary bottleneck. The only ones reproducing are like me — the evil ones.

    We’re currently in the “Theodore Herzl Stage” of White Zionism. It’s all theoretical at the moment.

    But it will come to pass, using the tried-and-true methods of taqqiya and chutzpah.

  242. @Malla

    See an Englishman cannot be an Englishman, a German cannot be a German or a Japanese cannot be a Japanese is a mix motley multi racial society. But an Arab can surely be an Arab, an Indian an Indian and even a Jew can be a Jew in such a mix motley society

    Yeah. Mostly because Arabs, Indians, and other West Asian groups have always lived in highly mixed societies. The multicultural West is not that different from their native environments.

    An Arab isn’t even really an “Arab,” he’s a member of an extended family, tribe, and denomination. An Indian isn’t even really an “Indian,” he’s a member of subcaste/jati. Identities like “Arab” and “Indian” are very artificial, used to glue together peoples who often dwelled apart and did not marry one another. These family/tribe/caste groups know how to preserve their distinctiveness in a multicultural soup with different ingredients.

    Their weakness is that they don’t know how to unite together when necessary.

    That is why British people had their clubs wherever they went in their vast Empire, clubs where darkies could not enter, so that far away from home, they could be British again.There was a deep wisdom in those British clubs. Or why Japanese do not allow non Japanese into many spas.

    They understand the presence of outside groups threatens their cohesion. If the outside groups are less civilized, their presence also threatens the standard of behavior too.

    Brown blacks would have a lot of problem facing high IQ White Yellows as long as we are outside the border of the White Yellow society.

    Even within the border, it depends who is ruling the society. In South Africa, the White-controlled government segregated apart the races. In China, the CCP is crushing the Xinjiang Muslims.

    It’s when Jews rule that they impose multiculturalism and force Whites to open up their neighborhoods, schools, etc. They’re trying to do the same in East Asian nations (Japan, Korea), but but everything is in the early stages.

    In China, Jews don’t rule anything. So when non-Chinese groups (Muslims, Africans, etc.) get out of control, they get crushed by the government. One day when China surpasses the West, Western-style multiculturalism will lose its prestige and be considered foolish.

    • Agree: Malla
  243. glib says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Guillaume, Italian Jews have most often the name of the city they come from (Pontecorvo is in SE Lazio). Many of them are named Ferrara or Ferrari, as Ferrara was the center of Jewish life in the 1500 (they abandoned the city after the 1574 earthquake). Others have their family name ending in certain ways.

    Tangential to all this, in 1992 I had the pleasure and honor to have dinner with the brother, Bruno Pontecorvo. He was already very weak from Parkinson, and needed assistance to move around. Nevertheless, he spoke at length, with barely audible voice, perhaps due to my evident interest.

    Brief summary of what Bruno did: a Fermi student, he started lines of neutrino research that led to four Nobel prizes (actually more, as some were awarded to more than one person). But in 1948 he defected to the USSR where he participated in the program that led to the soviet atom bomb. Needless to say, he never was awarded a Nobel he easily deserved (in the same discussion, he mentioned in passing that Fermi should have won 8, and Occhialini, 2).

    But we also touched on other subjects, including the 1948 defection, and his cultural origins. I have no doubt that the family is/was communist first, and Jewish second. By 1992, he also admitted that he had become disillusioned with the USSR sometime in the 1970, but still had beliefs of how a society should be organized. Iris representation of what Gillo did is very much on target. The whole film is the product of an ideology that regards colonialism as the original sin. It does use true facts and prioritizes them over other facts.

    • Thanks: Iris
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  244. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny too, I had an American propaganda book, can’t remember the name of now written by someone from Iraq, published in 1991, It was about the resistance to Sadam, it was communist resistance, funded by the old Soviet Union, like the African National Congress, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the Muslem Brotherhood and many others. The main character of the book wrote a newsletter and had a distribution of at least 25,000 in Iraq, it was called Al Qa’ida, a periodical. Qaeda is a route. Anyway the main person in the book whose name I can’t remember and I got rid of the book a long time ago, was tortured then exiled from Iraq and then lived in France, and worked for UNESCO.

    France and other countries are very open. Living in a communist society ourselves now it’s difficult who is our friend and who isn’t when now we are so much the same in behavior.

    Let’s be real even our education system is founded on Soviet system of education.

    Good day Comrade

  245. Miro23 says:
    @Malla

    3) Or White folks may have to divide up roles. A large mass of White people may have to go Amish, make sacrifices, withdraw from the modern world completely, may even have to live in poverty.

    There’s an easier way to do this. Keep modern healthcare, communications, infrastructure, travel etc. but block out the most harmful aspects of modern life.

    For example, humans are adapted to a pre-modern life based around fairly hard daily physical exercise (hunter gathering). Just put this back in, and there are multiple benefits:

    – Gets rid of fat. Obese people have to lose lots of weight to train effectively.

    – Stops drinking. No drunks in the gym.

    – Greatly reduces the risk of circulatory problems (heart attack/stroke).

    – Less TV (no time).

    – Introduces daily discipline that can spread to other useful areas.

    The theory is, that sorting out the physical side, will go a long way to sorting out the mental side.

    • Replies: @Malla
  246. @Iris

    Euros and their huwhite mutt descentdants have not learned anything yet. The coming conflict will be a wake up call or the end of them.

  247. Ed says:

    I’m actually wrapping up Julian Jackson biography on De Gaulle and am at the part about the Algerian War, it’s interesting that the liberal position was anti-independence because they claimed Algerian Muslims could be made into Frenchmen and the conservative position was that the Muslims could be governed.

  248. Vojkan says:
    @Alfred

    Speaking of disappointing ignorance, Albert Camus was born a Roman Catholic and had a Roman Catholic upbringing.
    Notwithstanding that little inconvenient fact, Jews have been present in northwest Africa long before France colonised it. There have been Jewish immigrants from the Middle-East in Maghreb at least since the 3rd century AD. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in Maghreb for longer than there has been a continuous Muslim presence. Besides, most of the Jews who settled in Maghreb after its islamisation arrived there after being expelled from Spain first in the 7th century and then after the Reconquista. The claim that France established a Jewish presence in Algeria has no base in facts. In 1962, Jews could legitimately assert to be as indigenous there as were Arabs.
    Historical facts are historical facts regardless of whether you like or dislike Jews.

    • Agree: Alden
  249. @Dave Bowman

    “The White race is the cancer of the earth. Sooner or later it simply has to go”

    – Barbara Lerner Spectre

    I have often wondered why this nobody, Barbara L. Spectre, a person whom 99.99% of the worlds’s population has never hear one word about, is so often quoted by other nobodies as proof of their ridiculous theorems about Jewish hatred towards others.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Vojkan
  250. Iris says:
    @Malla

    It was 19th century colonialism that finally put an end to centuries of North African piracy, just as it was the Western nations that finally ended the Slave Trade.
    Unfortunately the slave trade, taking of captives for ransom, and terrorism lives on Islamic societies.

    Such statement is factually inaccurate and cartoonish. No serious historian would state that in an academic work. It equates at saying that the Crusades were only motivated by religion.

    Privateers, unlike pirates, were legal actors, recognized and commissioned by their respective States, from both sides of the Christian-Muslim religious divide, whose activity was reciprocal maritime banditry, sometimes under the guise of religion.

    In the Mediterranean, between the 16th and 19th centuries, this legal activity of privateers differed according to their prey. It was called “Maritime Race” when the privateers tried to seize the trading ships of a power at war with their Sovereign; Race was therefore a one-off activity related to periods of conflict, and the privateer was considered an auxiliary of his country’s war navy.

    On the other hand, the activity targeting the religious “opponent’s” ships was called “Corso”. Thus, the Corso, if it is akin to the race in that it also targets commercial ships, differed in substance: it was a permanent struggle with religious connotations between Christians and Muslims.

    Both Race and Corso were legal activities, recognized and encouraged by states on both sides of the religious divide, whose sovereigns granted their privateers permissions – known as Letters of Mark – to run over enemy merchant ships.

    The first letter of mark was issued by Philippe Auguste in May 1206, to run in the English Channel. While the Race dates back to the 13th century, it was run most intensely within 16th to early 19th centuries’ Mediterranean. The struggle between the Cross and the Crescent, that is to say between Christians and Muslims, which appeared as early as the 8th century in the Mediterranean, provided the Race its most effective ideological cover: under the pretext of a perpetual struggle for “true faith”, the Corso allowed sailors on both shores of this sea to engage in continuous rapines on enemy’s trade navy.

    In the Christian West, the Barbary privateer represented for a long time the archetypal Mediterranean “pirate”; however, on the other side of the Mediterranean, the Christian “pirate” was also feared and charged with an equally black and negative legend in Muslim imagination. The struggle was therefore fair and balanced between the various protagonists, and not, as too often conveyed by European-centrist historiography, noble and chivalrous Christians knights fighting the terrible Barbary pirates.

    Furthermore, the three centuries of Mediterranean Race/Corso correspond to the centuries just after the fall of Granada in 1492, with Spain pursuing the Reconquista further onto the coasts of North Africa in order to drive out the “Infidels” from their native lands. The threat was real to the Muslims, and they were in a defensive position.

    The local rulers appealed to the Sultan of Constantinople for protection, which resulted in the creation of the Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli kingdom, subject to the authority of Constantinople and called by the Christians “Barbarian Regencies”.

    Equally important, the Race took place under uninterrupted European technological superiority, as it run over the 2.5 centuries following the historic and determining 1571 Battle of Lepanto, which saw the Ottoman navy defeated.

    So European powers happily put up with the Mediterranean Race as long as it suited them because they were at war with one another. They were satisfied to alternatively sign many conventions and agreements with the “Barbary Pirates”, as long they could have them as allies against other European foes.

    Once the French Revolution tamed, however, economic liberalism imposed itself as the economic policy of choice. Trade routes had to become safe, capital had to be consolidated: the maritime Race became obsolete and European powers allied against the Algiers Regency.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Malla
  251. Several years ago there was talk of Jean-Marie Le Pen’s Mémoires being translated into english. Have any funds been set-up for this?

  252. Incitatus says:
    @Talha

    “They are always welcome to try again – it would be best if they officially declare they are no longer signatories to international protocols, you know to avoid being called out as hypocrites. And then, game on – viva La France!

    Actually they prudently backed out of Algeria under De Gaulle in 1961, despite ample means to subjugate – gained “while looking at people in the eyes and doing it”. Read Alistair Horne. The moral price was too high, the reward too low.

    “Sure, maybe they [the French?] are willing to drop thermobaric munitions on this place and that from a mile up in the sky – that’s par for the course these days, but I doubt they are willing to commit the scorched earth tactics and indiscriminate killing (you know, while looking at people in the eyes and doing it) it took to bring the first Algerian resistance (in the late 1800s) to surrender”

    Tell us about Holy Place guardian Saudi Arabia’s adventures in Yemen. Tell us about schoolgirl Malala Yousafzai and her narrow escape.

    Stay well Talha.

    • Replies: @Talha
  253. @Current History

    Bullshit. First sentence, or a part of it, was ascribed to Susan Sontag, not Lerner Spectre. You idiots should better check your sources.

    • Agree: Poco
  254. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    ” Several Indian autonomous territories known as reservations are larger than France.”

    The Navaho reservation is 27,425 square miles and France is 211,209 square miles.

    “As individuals each Indian gets a government check every month. It’s not considered welfare. It’s something like a perpetual hereditary mortgage payment for the lands taken by the American government from their tribe since 1790.”

    If the money the government gives to Indians isn’t welfare, but perpetual hereditary mortgage payment, then the money given to negroes is perpetual slavery compensation. Only poor whites get welfare and should be stigmatized for it, according to the narrative.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Alden
  255. Talha says:
    @Incitatus

    Actually they prudently backed out of Algeria under De Gaulle in 1961

    Agreed.

    The moral price was too high, the reward too low.

    Agree here as well. If the price of victory is such that you must kill off women and children and elderly and burn their meager villages to the ground to gain land, is that land worth the price of your soul?*

    Tell us about Holy Place guardian Saudi Arabia’s adventures in Yemen.

    There will be a reckoning for this, make no doubt about it – in this world or the next.

    Tell us about schoolgirl Malala Yousafzai and her narrow escape.

    This one too. The (attempted) assassins of young women will have plenty to answer for.

    Stay well Talha.

    You as well my friend.

    Peace.

    [MORE]

    *Emir Abdul Qadir (ra) remains one of my heroes because, despite what the French did to him and his family, he never lost his soul in the conflict:

    There is a city a few hours away from my home in Iowa named after him:
    https://www.abdelkaderproject.org/about-emir-abdelkader/

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Jeff Stryker
  256. Pater says:
    @Jake

    How will this stop population growth by third worlders many of whom are Catholic themselves. The easier option would be repatriation of non native French back to their own countries. Ancestry is way more important than religion/culture.

    • Agree: Bookish1
  257. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Blacks living today are not slaves and most don’t have ancestors who were either. This isn’t Africa.

  258. Iris says:
    @glib

    Thanks for your comment, and for evoking the memory of Bruno Pontecorvo whom I profoundly admire as a physicist and individual.

    I fail to understand why people say that he “defected” to the USSR: he was not an American and America does not own Europeans.

    Between the US, who had gratuituously and unnecessarily dropped two A bombs on Japan, and the USSR who had bled off 26 million people, he chose to work for the latter, to contribute in re-establishing a balance of power that would ultimately protect all of humankind.

    French Algerian author Albert Camus, too, was so revolted by Hiroshima/Nagasaki that he publicly and vocally condemned the bombing only two days after it happened. Very few intellectuals did so.

    The 1960’s were a vibrant and bold time, where genuine people were driven by collective ideals and strive for justice and common good. It is only fairness to at least understand how true they were in their beliefs. Many thanks.

    • Replies: @glib
  259. Talha says:
    @Iris

    Privateers, unlike pirates, were legal actors, recognized and commissioned by their respective States

    Correct. Privateers were also integral to the Revolutionary War to win against the greatest navy of that age:
    “European governments regularly issued documents known as Letters of Marque and Reprisal to legitimize privately outfitted men-of-war. In a tradition dating back to the Middle Ages, under highly regulated conditions, these documents authorized private parties to attack enemy vessels. Without the documentation, these same activities were considered acts of piracy and subject to prosecution. If a privateer captured an enemy ship (known as a prize), an admiralty prize court had to approve the seizure. Then, the proceeds from the sale of the prize and its cargo were shared among the owners and crew of the privateer according to a pre-arranged contract.…A Privateer Commission was issued to vessels, called privateers or cruisers, whose primary objective was to disrupt enemy shipping. The ideal target was an unarmed, or lightly armed, commercial ship….the overall effort to cripple Britain’s commercial fleet was highly effective, and fortunes destined to finance the new republic were made. It is estimated that the total damage to British shipping by American privateers was about $18 million by the end of the war, or just over $302 million in today’s dollars.”
    https://www.nps.gov/revwar/about_the_revolution/privateers.html

    Both Race and Corso were legal activities, recognized and encouraged by states on both sides of the religious divide, whose sovereigns granted their privateers permissions – known as Letters of Mark – to run over enemy merchant ships.

    And some switched sides to whichever was more lucrative:
    “Ward was one of many mariners who turned to privateering – a semi-legalised form of piracy in which Queen Elizabeth I issued licences to anyone intending to plunder ships that belonged to the hated Spanish. The deal was simple: the Crown received five per cent of the loot and the Lord Admiral’s agents took 10 per cent. The rest was divided between the ship’s owner and the crew…Uthman Dey may well have had second thoughts about welcoming this mixed band of Cornish smugglers and West Country ruffians. Toothless, heavily bearded and wearing a bizarre array of stolen velvet doublets and silken waistcoats, Ward’s pirates looked starkly different to the fabulously uniformed janissaries who patrolled the city. Nonetheless, Dey recognised that Ward was a skilled pirate and allowed him to use Tunis as his centre of operations, just so long as he got a share of the loot. Ward began capturing an astonishing array of vessels, including an English merchantman named John Baptist, richly laden with luxurious damasks. Ward renamed her the Little John, after the English folk hero. Another captured vessel was renamed the Gift, suggesting that Ward, though reportedly morose, had a sense of humour…Around 1610, he and his crew took the momentous decision to ‘turn Turk’, converting to Islam and settling permanently in Tunis. Ward himself changed his name to Yusuf Reis and married for a second time, even though he still had a wife in England.”
    https://www.historyextra.com/period/elizabethan/pirate-john-ward-the-real-captain-jack-sparrow/

    Zymen Danseker (the Dutchman) was another famous one of these types.

    Peace.

  260. @JEANNOT

    Yeah yeah yeah. “Say it, Frenchy: CHOW-DAH.”

  261. @Commentator Mike

    Well said as usual, Mike. It’s especially galling to see the Pigs of the LAPD, still getting richly paid, strolling past forcibly closed businesses that represents a family’s dream and life’s work, often WITHOUT MASKS.

    Which raises the question, by the way: how unusually deadly is this virus, and how “vitally important for public health” are these masks, if cops are routinely walking around without them?

  262. @Dave Bowman

    Yeah, quote this one Jewish person whom the vast majority of Jews have never heard of, as if her opinion represents the opinion of all Jews. Talk about being a cretin.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Robjil
  263. Robjil says:
    @Derek Jeter

    Even Ireland had a Barbara Lerner type worm himself to the top to cause trouble. He even got Ireland to give arms to Israel, even though Ireland is neutral.

    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/01/alan-shatter-irelands-barbara-spectre.html

    I’m always amazed at the manner in which Jews have managed to wriggle their way into crucial positions within the West which they then use as hammers to bash the natives with. Ireland is no different. Between 2011 and 2014 Alan Shatter, one of just two thousand Jews in Ireland, managed to become both Minister for ”Justice and Equality” and Defence Minister. One allowed him to multicult Ireland good and hard, the other allowed him to sign arms deals with his true Nation, Israel, Ireland buying of course, despite Ireland’s Neutrality.

    • Replies: @Derek Jeter
  264. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Malla

    Interesting and apparently a common theme: Betrayal by the elites.

  265. karel says:
    @Commentator Mike

    143 com. mike

    Many of those you call cheering idiots were much smarter than you as the fall of the wall enabled them to colonize the East and slowly suck it dry. Your naive comment implies that you were either too slow, stupid or both thus failing to join the numerous vultures and vampires who benefited so nicely from Drang nach Osten. But perhaps you are just a noble billionaire with high moral background who would never engage in such abominations. If so, I apologize.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  266. @Robjil

    You’re just doing the same thing. You focus on some obscure Jewish person to be your scapegoat and the object of your frustration and anger and then attribute all these policies you don’t like to that one person, as if politics were so cut-and-dried. The fact of the matter is that you can always find a Jewish person to blame if you look hard enough. You will always get confirmation of your prejudices because your prejudices is what make you look for Jews. Jews are ubiquitously successful in every field because they are smarter than you. I’m sure if you wanted to prove that Jews “control” the ag industry or energy industry or industry X in some random country Y, there will be a Jewish person there and you, predictably, will rehash the same anti-Semitic tropes. That’s the MO of you Nazi types.

  267. Robjil says:
    @Derek Jeter

    Here is what Barbara said.

    https://lybio.net/barbara-lerner-spectre-on-multiculturalism-in-europe/people/

    And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make.

    They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

    Yet she doesn’t like Armenians or Palestinians. Thus, she would not do her multicultural work in Israel or Turkey.

    http://www.tc-america.org/files/news/pdf/blerner_nro.pdf

    And, although they proved incompetent at governing, they achieved great success as propagandists. In this, Armenians are very similar to Palestinians; very different from both Jews and Turks. [2]

  268. glib says:
    @Iris

    You are right I should not have used “defected”. But we can only spend so much time commenting and some slight inaccuracies slip past the editor (ha!). Anyhow, I am also an admirer of both brothers, and Bruno in particular was a lifelong inspiration. He is buried in the Acatholic Cemetery in Rome, if you are there go pay a visit. The tombstone says “nu_mu=/= nu_e”, the two neutrinos are different.

  269. North Africans could have been integrated. But that would have required their forcible conversion to Christianity or exile. In other words, measures not available to a 20th century French government still recovering from the costs of two World Wars. Germany single-handedly destroyed every European empire in existence save the Russian one. They were as Samson in the temple. In a just world, the winners would have divvied up German soil and exiled the Germans to Antarctica.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  270. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    Whatever, my post was just a brief summary pointing out that they were not genocided out of existence but are alive and well and doing OK.

  271. Seraphim says:
    @Johann Ricke

    But the French were busy to destroy the Church as well. They were blasting Christianity while swooning in ecstasy for Sufism.

  272. chris says:

    … military officers and numerous regular soldiers and settlers created the Secret Army Organization (OAS), launching a massive terrorism campaign to prevent the referendum against the Arabs and the French State

    This is very interesting Guillaume! I wonder which other colonials, active at that time, would have had an acute interest in having fellow Europeans battling natives in the region. You don’t suppose the OAS would have received any active help from them, do you?

  273. Malla says:
    @Iris

    This sounds like prime grade B.S. to me. Not denying pirates existed on the Christian side (though a lot of them were crypto Jews), how many Muslim North Africans were captured and enslaved by Christian European pirates?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Robjil
  274. Malla says:
    @Miro23

    Thanks, very true,
    Should also include diet

    – Stay Away from modern processed foods. Eat natural and traditional stuff.

  275. Malla says:
    @Alfred

    mentioning that the settlers were largely Jews

    There were Jews in North Africa loooooong before Arabs ever ventured there.

    The OAS. They tried to assassinate de Gaulle numerous times. Where did they get their money from? Who was backing them?

    And where was the FLN getting their money from? Who was backing them?

    • Replies: @brams
  276. TGD says:
    @Jake

    Israel never could have come to being without 2 nations: US and UK.

    You’re leaving out the Soviet Union. Both the US and UK as well as France had an embargo on the sale of arms to the Zionists. Stalin secretly gave the Czechs permission to supply armaments to the Zionists. That turned the tide of the 1948 war.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  277. Alfred says:
    @Alden

    When he was about 10, an Arab climbed up to their second story apartment and attempted to rape his mother. She and the boys managed to drive him away.

    I wrote that 3 million Algerians died in their War of Independence. No one seems to take note. 🙁

    An attempted rape by some some demented Algerian is of more significance. It is much more likely to end up in the Jewpedia and all the rest of them. This article is a reflection of this mindset. You cannot accept that native Algerians are humans. I am deliberately using the term “Algerian” because the “Arabs” were always a minority in that country. They were the occupiers. The Kebaili are not Arabs. Saint Augustine was not an Arab.

    I just did a search for “Kebaili” on the Jewpedia. It is a word that is not to be found except as a family name. They are trying to erase an entire people with their own language (Berber). Remarkable. They would love to do that for the Palestinians but are not there yet.

    The French and their Jewish hordes took the best agricultural land of Algeria for themselves. Just like the British took the best hunting grounds of the Aboriginals for themselves (e.g. Sydney bay). That is what colonialism is all about. The Jews played a similar role in Algeria as their cousins in Poland. The difference is that the Poles had their own aristocrats on top. In Algeria, they worked hand-in-glove with and for the French and against the indigenous people who had been dispossessed of their land.

    • Replies: @Derek Jeter
  278. @karel

    Plenty of ordinary people cheered the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain and they didn’t benefit from it. As you rightly point out it was the fat cats at the top of western corporations who benefited the most, as they do from anything: a recession, crisis, war, disaster, and even a pandemic, real or fake. The fact remains that millions of East Europeans flooded to the west taking jobs from locals, lowering wages, and contributing to crime and the prison populations.

  279. @Commentator Mike

    Just to point out that Margaret Thatcher herself was not too happy about the fall of the Berlin Wall but in general most of the western leaders and liberal politicians were all for it.

    • Replies: @Malla
  280. @Malla

    Well the descendants of those Barbary corsairs and pirates are now murdering, raping and pillaging deep in Europe’s hinterland and not just on occasional raids along the coast as their forefathers. I know you know, we all know, but just to point out they’re of the same stock and nothing much changes. And they’ve got allies from further afield in Africa and Asia joining them. And still Europeans keeps the gates open and don’t defend the ramparts, shaming their own ancestors.

    • Agree: Current History, Malla
    • Replies: @Bookish1
  281. @Alfred

    “jewpedia” and “Jewish hordes”? Are you for real? “The Jews” as usual are the perpetrators in your grand conspiracy theories. Your hate speech is despicable.

  282. Vojkan says:
    @Current History

    Actually, the sentence is a misquote of Susan Sontag. The full quote can easily be found on the Internet, even Wikipedia has it, and it does reek of hatred against the white race and Sontag can hardly be dismissed as a nobody. Videos of Lerner Spectre can also be easily found, she’s definitely not a nobody in Sweden and she too reeks of hatred against whites. Both Sontag and Lerner Spectre are Jewish and they are far from being the only Jews to display very negative feelings about the white European civilisation. Obviously, not all Jews reek of hatred, I happen to know personally a few who don’t, but the number of them that do is significant enough, especially in sectors with public exposition, to warrant distrust of the group as a whole.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  283. brams says:
    @Malla

    FLN get their money from their people in Algeria and émigrant in France!

    • Replies: @Malla
  284. Malla says:
    @Talha

    My honest guess is that the current French don’t have the stomach for what would be required to subjugate, say, the Algerian populace as they did in the past

    Not as simple as that. There was French brutality because the folks they were dealing with were doing this.

    Victims of FLN terrorists

    It seems if you can use brutality, the other side can too.

    And these tough measures worked. The French had won. It is only that the French were back stabbed by the leftist traitors, the church and eventually their own government. Very common story.

    From post no 20 on this page

    “Despite this “ blunder ”, the result of the repression on March 31, 1957 was spectacular : 253 killers and 1,574 agents were arrested, 88 bombs and 200 kg of explosives were recovered. The number of attacks dropped from 112 in January to 29 in March. In all the places where the rebel organisation had been dismantled, it was reported that Muslims spontaneously provided information. The population regained confidence, not in the generosity of the army, but in its firmness, that is, in its determination to keep the terrorists whom they had arrested under lock and key and to prevent them from doing harm. Many, however, were still waiting to see.

    As for the FLN leaders, though acknowledging their failure, they rapidly understood how they could put to good use the media campaign that was getting underway in metropolitan France.””

    • Replies: @Talha
  285. Malla says:

    Anyways for the record, I agree that French Algeria would have ended up as a disaster for France in the long turn as France was to include Algeria into Metropolitan France. That would have been a disaster in demographics because even though Algeria had a much smaller population than France at that time, population smaller than even Paris, if I am not mistaken, the Algerian population was growing faster than the French. So actually loss of Algeria was good for France in the long run. However all I am pointing out is that Western elites will support foreign Muslims over native Whites, they have done this before, they will do it again.

  286. Malla says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Unlike in Islam, there is no brotherhood of Hindus due to the fact that they are so ethnically diverse and their beliefs are not monolithic like Islam

    Yes, this is exactly the kind of thinking which led to the creation of the Hindu fundamantalist organisation RSS. RSS (‘Rastriya Swyamsevak Sangh’ translated to ‘National Self Help Group’) is the ideological party to the ruling political party of India, the BJP (‘Bharatiya Janata Party’ translated to ‘Indian People Party’) just like how the AB or the Afrikaner Broederbond was the ideological party behind the political party the Nationalist Party in the Republic of South Africa pre-1994.

    The RSS was formed because of the kind of insecurity that Hindus felt when facing the Islamic World as a whole. This occurred soon after the Moplah rebellion in 1921. Now what was this Moplah Rebellion which caused such a Hindu backlash?

    WW1 pitted the British Empire, French Empire and the Russian Empire against the German Empire, Austro Hungarian Empire and the Ottoman Empire. Not only did wars take place in the fields of Europe but skirmishes took place outside Europe among the colonies. For example, many German colonies in Africa were conquered by the British. Similarly due the Zionist forces in the British government wanting Palestine, the British Empire fought the Ottoman Empire and the Arab holdings of the Ottoman Empire was lost. Remember Lawrence of Arabia. Many British Indian troops were involved in the Middle Eastern campaigns.
    Well the Turks and the Germans thought, ‘Well if the British and the French interfere in our Empires why should we not interfere in theirs?’.
    In India, the Germans created alliances with Hindu groups (check out the German Hindu alliance) to rile up people against the British Raj which kind of leads s to the Julianwala Baug incident as German agents were very active in Punjab. But then we had the Turks. We had a strange dilemma here. What people do not realize is that the British Empire was the largest Islamic power in the world. This is because most Muslims of the world lived in this Empire, Indian subcontinent, Egypt, Malaysia etc… But the political head of the Muslims was the Caliph who was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. Very strange situation when you realize both the Empires were at war with one another. Well the Turks decided to send agents into Muslims colonies of the British Empire (India, Egypt), French Empire (Algeria and North Africa in general) & Russian Empire (Central Asia & Caucasus) to rile up the masses in the name of the Caliph. This way Allied troops will have to be diverted in the colonies to keep the peace and thus they would be off the battle field against the Ottomans. Thus in India we had the ‘Kalifat movement’ (Kalifat from Caliph, the Ottoman Emperor) leading in some way to the Moplah Rebellion where Muslims rioted in India initially against the British Govt but not surprisingly it resulted into the usual Hindu Muslim riots and killings. Even Gandhi idiotically supported this Kalifat Movement only because it was anti-British.

    Malabar rebellion (also known as the Moplah rebellion and Māppila Lahaḷa in Malayalam) was an armed riot to form an islamic state in Malabar region. It was a lahala against Hindus in the Malabar region of Southern coastal India by Muslims who wanted to create Islamic state in that region. These riots begin as a reaction against a heavy-handed crackdown on the Khalafat moment a seditious campaign in defense of the Ottoman empire by the British Indian Govt.

    Up on the mountains overlooking the Malabar coast of Southernmost India, among a population of about two million Hindus, lived a people known as the Moplahs, descendants of old Arab traders. The Moplahs, themselves numbered about a million people.

    But, zealot Muhammadans, they have ever been prone to outbreaks of religious passion in which their one desire is to be sent to Paradise by a bullet or a knife, first having piled up the longest possible list of non-believers dead by their hands.

    Among these simple creatures, in the year of disorders 1921, the Kalifat Movement above indicated sent emissaries preaching a special edition of its doctrines. (Indian/ British Raj) Government’s hand, these proclaimed, was raised against the holy places of Islam. Government was “Satanic,” an enemy of the Faith. Government must and would be driven out of India and that right soon. Swaraj (self rule) must be set up.

    From mosque to mosque, from hamlet to hamlet, from coconut grove to coconut grove, the fiery words passed. And, whatever meaning they might bear for an abstract philosopher, to the simple Moplah, as, in those miserable years, to so many millions of simple Hindus all over the land, they meant just what they said–War.

    But, the point that Mr. Gandhi missed, whatever the humorous Ali brothers may privately have thought about it, was this: Swaraj, to a Moplah, could only mean the coming of the earthly Kingdom of Islam, in which, whatever else happened or failed to happen, no idol-worshiping Hindu could be tolerated alive.

    So the Moplahs, secretly and as best they could, made store of weapons–knives, spears, cutlasses. And on August 20, 1921, the thing broke loose. As if by a preliminary gesture of courtesy to the sponsors of the occasion, one European planter was murdered at the start. But without further dissipation of energy the frenzied people then concentrated on the far more congenial task of communal war. First blocking the roads, cutting the telegraph wires and tearing up the railway lines at strategic points, thereby isolating the little police stations scattered through the mountains, they set to work, in earnest and in detail, to establish a Muslim Kingdom and to declare a Swaraj after their own hearts.

    Their Hindu neighbors, though outnumbering them two to one, seem to have stood no chance against them. The Hindu women, as a rule, were first circumcised–• “forcibly converted,” as the process is called–and were then added to Moplah families. The Hindu men were sometimes given the choice of death or “conversion,” sometimes flayed alive, sometimes cutlassed at once and thrown down their own wells. In one district, the Ernad Taluk, over nine hundred males were “forcibly converted” and the work spread on through the mountain-slopes.

    The muslims attacked and took control of police stations, British government offices, courts and government treasuries. And after that attack was then directed against Hindu community. Hindus were killed women and even little girls raped places of worship gutted in fire. Forceble conversion of Hindus was started and women were abducted.

    The muslims officially declared that reign of Tipu’s Islamic sultanate has returned. About 10,000 Hindus were officially killed but most probably it is an undercount.

    At the time, the Indian National Congress remained silent turning blind eye against autocracies of Muslims.

    As rapidly as possible police and troops were thrown into the country, by whose work, after six months of trying service, the disorders were quelled. But not until some three thousand Moplahs had cast away their lives, without reckoning the Hindus they accounted for, not until much property had been destroyed and many families ruined, and not until a long list of prisoners awaited trial for guilt that certainly belonged on heads higher than theirs.

    Meantime, the circumcised male Hindus wandered up and down the land calling upon their brethren to take warning.

    A trained American observer, agent of the United States Government, chanced to be in the region at the time. His statement follows:

    “I saw them in village after village, through the south and east of Madras Presidency. They had been circumcised by a peculiarly painful method, and now, in many cases, were suffering tortures from blood poisoning. They were proclaiming their misery, and calling on all their gods to curse Swaraj and to keep the British in the land. ‘Behold our miserable bodies! We are defiled, outcasted, unclean, and all because of the serpents who crept among us with their poison of Swaraj. Once let the British leave the land and the shame that has befallen us will assuredly befall you also, Hindus, men and women, every one.’

    “The terrors of hell were literally upon them.

    “And the Brahman priests were asking one hundred to one hundred and fifty rupees a head to perform the purification ceremony which alone could save the poor creatures’ souls.

    “This ceremony consisted in filling the eyes, ears, mouth and nose with soft cow-dung, which must then be washed out with cow’s urine, after which should be administered ghee (clarified butter), milk and curds. It sounds simple, but can only be performed by a Brah-man, and with proper rites and sacred verses. And the price which the Brahmans now set upon their services was, to most of the needy, prohibitive. Their distress was so desperate that British officials, for once interfering in a religious matter, interceded with the Brahmans and persuaded them, in view of the large number concerned, to accept a wholesale purification fee of not over twelve rupees a head.”

    This shocked the Hindus, and this incident in the Indian state of Kerala in Southern India was the main cause of birth of RSS hundreds of miles away in Nagpur (Central India) by Hindus who felt the pain of Hindus of Kerala.

    But a young serious Hindu man far away from Malabar was watching closely but helplessly watching the helplessness of Hindus. He realized as you said, that the Islamic World was huge and at least compared to Hindus had far more unity. But this man, Dr. Keshav Baliram Pant Pantulu Hedgewar would remain silent and think hard. He along with just few men would eventually start a tiny organization which will fight for Hindus anywhere. And this organization was the RSS. That tiny RSS became larger and larger with time until that Hindu Fundamentalist RSS now rules and literally reigns supreme in India.

    This mega fracturing in Hindu Muslim relations (which was never good but not THIS BAD) would eventually play its own part in leading to the future partition of India into India and Pakistan. The rise of the RSS actually raised eye brows among the Muslim elites of India including Mr Jinnah, the father of Pakistan. Jinnah being a very smart man, knew where India was heading now, he had sensed the future, he knew eventually India would go the RSS way, and hence the desire of a separate Pakistan for the safety of Indian Muslims and hence the division of British India into India and Pakistan. And he was proved right, India would go the RSS way. So the dumb unwise action of the Turks in British India led to many serious ramifications in the future. Led to the partition of India and eventually the rise of the Hindu fundamentalist BJP which is today politically supremely dominant in India.

  287. Malla says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Very good point. Maybe the Whites of the future would be more ethnocentric. Just like those Amish/ Mennonites who come back after their 2 years Rumspringa and have kids in the community are even more Amish/ Mennonites, more purified Amishness. Or Orania in South Africa like you mentioned.
    Looks like the West could get balkanised in the future. Will not turn out a libtard utopia where all races come together but a balkanised mess.

  288. Talha says:
    @Malla

    Read carefully exactly what I wrote and you’ll understand why I agreed with Incitatus. To fight the FLN, secular nationalists, the French were using the same means – par for the course, both were capable of monstrosities, no doubt there. At this point you basically pile up the bodies on both sides and see who killed more, since any ethics and morality have been thrown out the window.

    Now, from a historical perspective, these were relatively new tactics that the secular nationalist Algerians were starting to use (no surprises there, ends-justify-the-means), the French were killing women and children by the thousands since the 1800s (this is all well documented and even caused consternation among the French public when some incidents leaked out). And this was beneath men like Amir Abdul-Qadir (ra) to respond in kind; men like him knew that surrender in that situation is preferable to becoming a soulless monster.

    It seems the French (at least the leadership) ultimately decided that killing a few million more Algerians was simply not worth the price for the land.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Malla
  289. Malla says:
    @brams

    Are you sure? Because many such “freedom movements” get money from many international sources. They have international banking backers.

    • Replies: @brams
  290. Malla says:
    @Talha

    these were relatively new tactics that the secular nationalist Algerians were starting to use (no surprises there, ends-justify-the-means), the French were killing women and children by the thousands since the 1800s (this is all well documented and even caused consternation among the French public when some incidents leaked out

    The FLN had nothing to do with the tortures of France in 1800 even if they were true. There was no continuity in between the 1800 and the incidents of the 1900s. They started the brutality, the French Govt responded in kind. Their (FLN) aim was the creation of rift in between the European and Muslim populations. Many Muslims and Europeans lived in harmony with each other and the FLN terrorists sneakily wanted to end this. They killed innocent Muslims too.

    From
    From
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/4-rebellion-accomplices.html

    A REVOLUTIONARY WAR
    Insurrection_1954
    Click on the map to enlarge.
    Responsibility for these crimes was claimed in a tract addressed to the Algerian people : « Our reform movement presents itself under the label – Front de Libération Nationale (FLN; National Liberation Front)[and its aim is]: national independence. » Philippe Tripier analyses as follows the aim of the FLN : « The rebellion began on November 1st, 1954 and initially had very few means. So few did it have that, reasonably thinking, it had scarcely any hope, and even less likelihood of achieving its ends. Let us be the judge : a few hundred bad rifles, as many fighters based for the greater part in the Aurès massif, and the rest in the Great Kabylia massif; an overwhelmingly indifferent Algerian population, and, according to the leaders of the conspiracy, not aroused by the national consciousness; finally, a worldwide opinion alien to the problem…

    « Since the Algerian people have not rebelled spontaneously and are not disposed to do so, the problem of independence was not essential in itself; it had to be created. […] » 2

    For the terrorists, it was a question of waging a very particular type of war that had just proved its worth in Indo China : revolutionary war. It consists not in occupying a territory, but in conquering its population whether they liked it or not. During 1955 and 1956, the first two years of the conflict, the FLN would attempt in vain to rouse the Algerian Muslims to join the rebellion.

    THEIR INSTRUMENT : TERROR
    The FLN was a movement that came from the Organisation spécial (OS; Special Organisation), the terrorist branch of Messali Hadj’s Marxist movement : the “ Mouvement pour le Triomphe des Libertés Démocratiques ” (MTLD; Movement for the Triumph of Democratic Liberties). Shortly before, in the spring of 1954, twenty-two activists of the OS had decided to split away and chose a directory : the “ Committee of Nine ”.

    …snip….

    THE PHILIPPEVILLE MASSACRE
    For French Muslims, nothing was more unnatural than this bloody rebellion. There is nothing more opposed to historical truth than a massive uprising of the Algerian people against colonial France.

    The Philippeville massacre
    The FLN leaders could but take note of this strong reluctance that their co-religionists showed towards them. Zighout Youssef, the rebel leader in the area (or wilaya) of North Constantine, a fanatical supporter of jihad, understood that it would be necessary to dig a gulf of blood between Muslims and Europeans so as to create an irreparable situation and to make any rapprochement between the two communities forever impossible. On August 20, 1955, in Philippeville, 51 Muslims and 71 Europeans, the elderly, women and babies included, had their throats slit, were disembowelled or dismembered. And what can be said of the El Hadia slaughter on the same day ? Dreadful… The police intervened but were unable to prevent reprisals by the Europeans, who were tried beyond endurance. 1,273 deaths were registered. Europeans were gripped by fear and Muslims with resentment.

    For the FLN, it was a victory. It then had to enlarge the wound by organising other acts of pillage and slaughter. In May 1957, it had been responsible for 1,800 cases of arson on farms, slitting the throats of or stealing 80,000 head of cattle, and the destruction of 12,000,000 grapevines. The FLN wanted first to kill Europeans and the Muslims whose spirit of justice and qualities of heart were factors that contributed to harmony existing between the communities. This conduct would acquire such an official character that in 1959 Krim Belkacem, who became the FLN’s “ Minister of War ”, declared cynically to journalists : « Assassination is proof of the preparation and the aptitude of new recruits : a new recruit must kill at least one colonialist or known traitor ». Such was the infernal mechanism that the FLN set in motion.

    From
    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/5-battle-algiers.html
    “On September 30, 1956, the bomb offensive was launched. The objective was the heart of the European city. The devices that were placed in the Cafeteria on Michelet Street and at the Milk Bar killed three persons, and wounded fifty, twelve of whom had to have limbs amputated. In reprisal, the Europeans killed two Muslims. This was what Ben M’Hidi was seeking : to put blood and hatred between the communities. From October to December the horror increased daily. The attacks numbered a hundred and twenty-two by December 1956; that is four per day !

    Algiers could no longer bear it and shuddered each day with horror and fear. A third of the attacks were aimed at Europeans in an indiscriminate manner; the remainder was directed against Muslims.

    As in Indo China, then in all of North Africa, in accordance with Communist revolutionary war methods, armed groups went underground after a few meticulously prepared acts of terrorism, while in the cities the cells of extremist parties acted clandestinely to control the masses and organise sedition.

    …snip…

    It is possible to count the acts of physical torture, but the number of acts of moral torture and blackmail that reduced people to a state of fear is impossible. And yet, this is the subject that is most important in the eyes of the moralist because it is what leads souls to abdicate their liberty and their honour. The Muslim who does not execute FLN orders, who works for the French, the man of the middle-class, the merchant who does not pay their contribution to the rebellion, the French, Italian or Spanish colonist who is too poor to abandon his isolated farm, like the North African in metropolitan France who is prey to racketeers or enjoined to leave for the maquis in the Aurès, all these poor people, theses hundreds of thousands of poor people know that they are condemned, and feel spied on… They live in anxious expectation of this minute of terror when fanaticism full of hatred would swoop down on them. If there are “ human persons ” to defend, it is these people.”

    It seems the French (at least the leadership) ultimately decided that killing a few million more Algerians was simply not worth the price for the land.

    It seems breaking up all these colonial Empires was a game plan of the globalist elites. It was not organic but funded and planned. We have far more information about this phenomenon w.r.t Sub Saharan Africa. Though overall I think decolonisation was a good thing for Europe, economically decolonisation coincided with a boom in the European economies as most of the colonies were actually economic liabilities. But that is a different matter.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Talha
  291. Robjil says:
    @Malla

    This terrorism war on civilians during Algeria’s break away from France, sounds very similar to a movie made by Arnon Milchan in 1985. Milchan’s “Brazil” movie had random terrorism against civilians as its means to control and scare the population. Milchan is an Israeli movie director and top insider of Israel politics. He worked on getting nuclear material for Israel in the 1960s. This is about the time of the “Battle of Algiers”. He made two films before nine eleven that showed a plane going into buildings. He must be an insider to how to use terrorism to control populations/ sheep herding of people.
    Also this war on civilians is the tactic that has been used endless since the nine eleven game. It all sounds like it was a big Operation Overlord game. D- day of 6/6/44 operation name, same Overlords, after all. The US used the “Battle of Algiers” film to go against civilians in US/Israel invasion and control of Iraq. Why not, it was an Overlord tactic.

    https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2583-brazil-a-great-place-to-visit-wouldn-t-want-to-live-there

    At the core of the film’s social critique is Gilliam’s insistence that contemporary culture is enslaved by its technologies, which waste more time and resources than they save. The government in Brazil makes things even worse, aiming at total control but achieving zero due to stupidity and incompetence at every level. Look at the computer and television screens, for example—instead of nice big monitors, everyone has cramped little ones clumsily magnified by additional screens in front of them—or at Sam’s telephone, a muddled knot of plugs and wires more like an archaic switchboard than a sleek electronic device. The powers that be—or Central Services, in the government’s deceptively bland jargon—do everything the convoluted way, nothing the obvious way. Horrible explosions recur throughout the story, but despite the government’s constant claims that terrorists are to blame, it’s possible there are no terrorists, just a lot of lethal accidents caused by bungling authorities. This richly ironic idea–that the guardians of civic order are the worst enemies of civic order—resounds throughout the film.

    • Thanks: Malla
  292. Jiminy says:
    @TGD

    Don’t forget that shiploads of armaments were smuggled out of the US bound for Israel directly after ww2. And I am certain that I also read that the nazi were helping certain Jews to make it to the new land. I’m sure that one of the Jews was later a prime minister of Israel. All of this was in one of the stories that I read here on this website, to many to remember which one.

  293. brams says:
    @Malla

    if you think Soros and colored Spring, you are wrong. this type of funding did not exist in this time. The 6 people who were going to start the revolt had only a few weapons from the World WarII. As for external aid, it was insignificant and delayed to manifest to the point of rendering the relations between the previous delegation of the FLN and internal combatants execrable. To find out about the Algerian war, I would recommend the 4 most documented volumes by historian Yves Courrière ” les fils de la toussaint- le temps des léopards – l’heure des colonels – les feux du desespoir. You also find in the “Journal” of the writer Mouloud Feraoun, murdered by the OAS, the atmosphere that prevailed during these 8 years

    • Replies: @Malla
  294. Malla says:
    @brams

    if you think Soros and colored Spring, you are wrong. this type of funding did not exist in this time.

    Of course it existed.

    The 6 people who were going to start the revolt had only a few weapons from the World WarII.

    And they brought down the French Empire, only an idiot believes that.

    Anyways nearly all “independence movements” or “liberation movements” in Sub Sahahran Africa at least were all fake and funded by Wall Street and armed by their communist buddies. So was the famous “independence movement” of India, Gandhi and all. There is a good chance, Algeria was the same.

    • Replies: @brams
  295. chris says:
    @Alfred

    Thanks a lot Alfred!

    Not knowing any of the points you made here, I speculated as much in my comment 277! It went without saying that a collusion between Israeli and ‘French’ colonialists was taking place, and the greatest indicator for that, for me, was the violent attacks on the French state. No mere French colonialist would have done such an act. Only a people considering themselves superior, completely immune to repercussions, and who thought their goals to be much more important than a mere colonial squabble would have committed such acts.

    To paraphrase what Bernoulli said about Newton, “we know the lion by his claw” (it goes without saying that the reference to the lion is not meant in a positive sense.)

  296. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You will not believe this. Guess what? Margaret Thatcher, the CONSERVATIVE British Prime Minister was in a meeting with some Soviet Leader, I do not remember who? May be Brezhnev but I think, most probably Gorbachev. I do not remember. The Soviet Leader went close to the British PM later on and said softly something of the kind “This West Vs the East (Europe & North Asia or Western Capitalism Vs Eastern Communism or NATO VS Warsaw Pact ) is passe. This West Vs East is outdated. Now it is South Vs North and we of the North need to support each other” or something of that kind.
    Margaret Thatcher found this statement by the Soviet Leader very “racist” and shocking. So lemme get dis straight. A leader of a COMMUNIST superpower warns the British PM of the CONSERVATIVE PARTY about the darkies of the South and the British PM is shocked and is in horror about such horrible, racist statements. Ohhh, she would have fainted, the Iron lady. So racist and so taboo and immoral and horrible!!! What a horrible man that Soviet leader is? LOL

    But guess what, my Dad had a manufacturing company, a small one which made some parts for Government defense companies in India. And he had a meeting with Government officials where some of the classified writings were shared. Not top secret stuff obviously but some of the beliefs of the Indian deep state at that time. And this was written by nobody else by Dr Abdul Kalam, India’s rocketman and eventually he was our President. And in one of those documents he had written exactly what the Soviet Leader was telling PM Thatcher (I was a small kid then but I came across some of those papers later). That the East Vs West is passe, it is now North VS South . Basically brown blacks Vs White Yellows. China was considered part of the North too. Remember India was still quite close to the USSR/ Russian Fed at that time. But basically he (Dr. Kalam) was saying we need to screw the White Yellows of the North. That was really the belief of the Indian deep State at the time, the Soviet Leader was right.
    Of course now the Indian Deep State’s philosophy is ‘sit on Uncle Sham’s lap’. She might even break the lap. LOL

  297. Robjil says:
    @Malla

    In the Barbary states slavery was big business. Barbary pirates plus the English and Dutch privateers joined together to capture slaves for the Arab slave markets in North Africa.

    For over 300 years, the coastlines of the south west of England were at the mercy of Barbary pirates (corsairs) from the coast of North Africa, based mainly in the ports of Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli. Their number included not only North Africans but also English and Dutch privateers. Their aim was to capture slaves for the Arab slave markets in North Africa.

    The Barbary pirates attacked and plundered not only those countries bordering the Mediterranean but as far north as the English Channel, Ireland, Scotland and Iceland, with the western coast of England almost being raided at will.

    In Crimea. one of the biggest slave market in the world was going on at the same time. The word slave comes from the word Slav since Slavs were one of the largest groups of people enslaved from early middle ages to 1783 when Russia stopped it by taking our Crimea.

    https://listverse.com/2018/06/06/10-little-known-facts-from-the-crimean-slave-trade/

    One of the longest, yet least remembered (at least in the West) slave trades of history centered around the Crimean Khanate, a Muslim state that was a vassal of the Ottoman Turks. Existing from 1449 until 1783, the Crimean Khanate was both a giant repository for slaves (most of whom were Slavic Christians) and one of Europe’s largest slave markets.

    The Crimean Tatars and the Turkic Nogai people were responsible for one of the largest slave trades in history. Yet almost nobody outside of Ukraine and Russia has heard of them.

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  298. @Seraphim

    Troy in England? An interesting theory though difficult to prove as Heinrich Schliemann did discover in what is today’s Turkey the treasure of Troy by basing his archeological search on Homer’s Iliad.

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  299. Talha says:
    @Malla

    the tortures of France in 1800 even if they were true.

    The “total war” campaign against the Algerian populace is well documented. General Bugeaud had been part of the (unsuccessful) Napoleonic invasion and occupation of Spain against irregular Spaniard fighters (and their British support). He decided not to pull any punches in Algeria. This was fairly common during colonial times across the world; resisting populations could expect to be massacred down to women and children, villages burned to the ground, etc.

    There was no continuity in between the 1800 and the incidents of the 1900s.

    Totally agree.

    The FLN leaders could but take note of this strong reluctance that their co-religionists showed towards them.

    Yeah, most Muslims don’t like secular nationalist (especially Marxist) groups that kill women and children. Men like Amir Abdul-Qadir (ra), whose release was even supported by the very French POWs that had formerly been his captives, would have been appalled at this kind of behavior:
    “In 1852, Abdelkader was liberated thanks to an admiring President Louis Napoleon and a lobby of Catholic clerics, intellectuals, military officers and former prisoners whom the emir had treated with unexpected humanity.”
    https://www.abdelkaderproject.org/about-emir-abdelkader/

    Now if you are arguing that the Algerians of today just can’t wait for the French to come back and rule over them, well – I’d personally like to see a poll on the matter.

    Which is why you seem to miss my original point. Any attempts at re-colonization today will be met with swift resistance by the population. Even if they uphold themselves to high ethical standards in war like Amir Abdul-Qadir (ra), the subjugation of the populace will require massive amounts of killing and destruction (and deaths of thousands of young French men). Are the current French willing to do this? Not the the aerial bombardment of Libya and such but the actual boots-on-the-ground and shipping in millions of French settlers (maybe they can get some advice from Israel on what works and what doesn’t).

    If so – to repeat – they can go ahead and get out of the international protocols (which France only really benefited by keeping Germany on their side of the border and not handing their backsides to them one more time) and come get some for the Great Game v2.0. I’m just asking for any males that support this and have an ounce of self-respect (as men), that they should themselves or have their sons join up with the French Foreign Legion which is always looking for recruits.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  300. Witness says:
    @Anonymous

    génocide is what you are saying will have been a way to do it. But history here was real and Algerian got rid of colonialist French that occupied and tried genocide ( millions were killed ) and left as losers .

  301. Robjil says:
    @Robjil

    Another interesting bit from the Barbary States slave trade, Cervantes, the author of Don Quixote, was a slave in the Barbary Coast for five years. He was freed with ransom.

    https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2014/08/13/inenglish/1407937271_555230.html

    “The document is important because it proves that Cervantes was in La Puebla, which we didn’t know until now, and it establishes a relationship with De Barros, who built the vessels that fought in the Battle of Lepanto, as well as supplying the ships that sailed to the Indies,” says Cabello. Cervantes was severely wounded at the Battle of Lepanto, which took place in 1571 off the west coast of Greece and marked a major European victory over the Ottoman Empire. Four years later, returning to Spain from Italy, he was captured by Algerian pirates and kept as a slave for five years until a ransom was paid for his release. Cervantes is known to have spent from 1587 to 1597 in the province of Seville. He would publish the first part of Don Quixote in 1605″

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Malla
  302. Incitatus says:
    @Talha

    “the price of victory… worth the price of your soul?”

    Excellent question, too oft ignored. Wish Americans in power troubled themselves with it.

    Thanks for the piece on Abdul Qadir. Who can disagree? Islam is truly wonderful. As much/more than other faiths, it directs moral action through submission. Five times per day.

    Yet we live in a borderland of self-interest parsing faith. Disembodied heads a sin, remote dismemberment by bombing somehow OK. Both are criminal.

    Proof (evident in human action, in history) remains too often fleeting and contested. All religions, all nations, all peoples.

    Wish it wasn’t so.

    Stay well Talha

    • Thanks: Talha
  303. brams says:
    @Malla

    only ignorant can pretend anything without documenting himself. read what I recommended to you, you will learn that the French Communist Party had voted special powers for the French army in Algeria, that Algerians deserted the French army with their weapons, …. and in parallel to the guerilla, it was through its diplomats that it succeeded in mobilizing the international community against France. And among them mohammed seddik benyahia who in 1979 contributed to the liberation of american hostages in Iran. So, i don’t know if there is the “Algerian war” in English.
     

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Malla
  304. @Talha

    Who’s victory.

    Bin Laden won. He drew the US into a war that will be twenty years long by the time the last Americans withdraw from Afghanistan and the trillions it cost bankrupted the US.

    Nobody in 2001 would have believed something that happened in 1982 would result in a war as long as this.

    Look at the US in the late 90’s. Few homeless, no deficit, triple A rating…look at it 20 years later. Nearly a Banana Republic.

    So I ask you? Who won?

    • Agree: Current History
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Talha
  305. Iris says:
    @brams

    All correct. People purporting that the Algerian revolutionary movement was supported by the Left could not be more wrong; if anything, it is the contrary.

    Both French Socialist and Communist French parties opposed the Algerian revolution. They agreed on approving the “Special Powers” decree at the French assembly, which resulted in giving a blank check to the out-of-control French junta in Algiers, and legalised industrial-scale torture and assassination of the indigenous population.

    The Socialists, represented by Francois Mitterand as Home Minister, proved particularly savage. Mitterand rejected any consideration for the political aspect of the conflict, and approved the official execution by the guillotine, firing or burning alive of at least 222 members of the Algerian insurrection, with many as young as 18-years old.

    The Communists were equally dismissive of the apartheid situation and demanded their members to side with the colonial powers. A few communist individuals joined the FLN out of personal anti-colonial beliefs and were denounced by their Party.
    The most outstanding example is that of Fernand Iveton, an Algerian-born French union activist, who decided to carry out a bloodless sabotage in solidarity with the revolution. He put a bomb in a gas plant where he worked, deliberately planning for no victim to be made, which was the case.

    The sabotage succeeded. Iveton was caught and executed by the guillotine in February 1957, in the midst of the Battle of Algiers. This savage and completely disproportionate sanction by a Socialist minister was applied to make an example and threaten the French Algerians, the “Pieds-Noirs”, who could be tempted to side with the Algerian revolution. Iveton’s lawless execution was not a legal, but a political execution.

    People with an inside knowledge of the French society know that the French metropolitan population was unaware of the crimes committed in Algeria, and that those who mostly supported the Algerian revolution were the militant Catholics, not the Left.

    • Agree: brams
  306. Robjil says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Bin Laden was not real.

    Seven Nations to Destroy from the Torah brought us to war in the ME.

    Israel of the Torah was created by destroying Seven Nations. So as Zion Zombie Pelosi said ” If bricks fell on our capitol. It is fundamental who we are. The first thing we will do is support Israel”.

    Therefore “Destroy Seven Nations” again for Israel.

    It is a circular thing. The Torah/ Tanakh things never end.

    It is a never ending story.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

    Since these seven nations no longer exist4 a person could think that this commandment is not noheg l’doros [for all generations5]. But only someone who does not understand the concept of noheg l’doros would think such a thing. A command that can be fulfilled without being limited to a certain time is considered noheg l’doros, because if the act would become possible in any generation, the mitzvah would apply.

  307. Bookish1 says:
    @Vojkan

    But those jews who dont seem to hate white civilization might not mind the demise of the west. You do not know what they feel inside.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  308. Bookish1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    My gut feeling is all that European passifness is going to change soon. The average white is aware of the game being played against them and they are sick and tired of it. I for one am a white nationalist who is as dedicated to my tribe as much as jews are to theirs. The white anti whites are a problem but they are being seen like the traitors and fools that they are. What we need is a great white leader to rise and that could happen. I read that Germany is now in a recession. That is actually a good thing to happen because when money gets tight people’s tolerance for the dark freeloaders goes down. A worldwide great depression wouldn’t be such a bad thing. It would be hard to have open borders when your own people are hungry.

  309. Malla says:
    @brams

    There was a Wall Street opposition to Colonial Powers.

    From

    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/national-restoration/algerian-war/5-battle-algiers.html

    As for the FLN leaders, though acknowledging their failure, they rapidly understood how they could put to good use the media campaign that was getting underway in metropolitan France.

    CAMPAIGN AGAINST TORTURE
    Témoignage Chrétien fired the opening shot on February 15, with the publication of the “ Jean Muller file ”, the file of a young soldier who had been recalled and denounced the « degrading practices » of his superiors.

    Relayed by Mandouze and Robert Barrat, by Claude Bourdet at France-Observateur, Beuve-Méry and Henri Marrou at Le Monde, Servan-Schreiber at the Express and by the communists at L’humanité, the campaign became more intense in March. It was out of the question for these newspapers to publish articles or photos about the massacres perpetrated by the FLN because, according to them, « it could shock the sensitivity of the French » (sic !)

    To an officer who proposed that he should go to Algiers in order to be able to talk about terrorism and its repression with full knowledge of the facts, Beuve-Méry, editor of Le Monde, retorted : « Me, go to Algiers ! Never. I want to keep the objectivity that distance permits. There, my judgement would be distorted. »

    Soon a « Spiritual Resistance Committee » was formed, where could be found mixed together priests like Fr. Pierre, the jurist René Capitant, the journalist Robert Barrat, the historian Charles-André Julien, the Islamologists Régis Blachère and Louis Massignon. They appealed that people fight « against the torture that the army and police services employed in Algeria ». The spirit of the Resistance was reviving ! They published a brochure entitled “ Recalled Soldiers Testify ”, even as there appeared the book by the Catholic writer Pierre-Henri Simon, “ Against Torture ”. It accused the French Army of having borrowed its ideas and methods from Nazi barbarity !

    And why I say this.

    From the book: The New Unhappy Lords

    https://ia800500.us.archive.org/23/items/TheNewUnhappyLords/TheNewUnhappyLords.pdf

    [MORE]

    “As far as is known “America’s” anti-British policy was first given concrete expression in the brief that General Marshall took with him to the Quebec Conference in 1943.
    This was to the effect that the greatest single obstacle to the expansion of America’s export-capitalism after the war would be not the Soviet Union but the British Empire. What this meant, in practical terms, was that as soon as the enemies in the field had been disposed of would come the turn of the British Empire to be progressively destroyed and that means to this end would be shaped even while hostilities raged. The moment they were over the campaign could begin in real earnest, the signal for which was to be Truman’s abrupt dropping of Lend-Lease to an ally whose economy had been so closely geared to war production that many markets for her goods had been systematically referred to U.S producers.
    The British Empire was not the only ally marked down for liquidation. The Dutch Empire in the East Indies and the French Empire in Indo-China and Africa were also high on the list ”

    In Page 22 of the book we read

    “However, as has happened time and again throughout history, the money-lenders had tended to overplay their hand. The six million German unemployed who were the victims of the “Great Depression” resulted in a formidable revolt against the Money Power—the revolt of Adolf Hitler. There was also a rebellion, although of a much milder kind, in Great Britain and the British nations overseas, whose representatives met in Ottawa in 1932 to hammer out a system of Imperial Preferences calculated to insulate the British world against Wall St. amok-runs. These Preferences, as we shall see, incurred the unrelenting hostility of the New York Money Power and the only reason why a show-down was not forced was the far more serious threat to the international financial system implicit in the economic doctrines of the Third Reich.”

    From
    The Forging of the American Empire: From the Revolution to Vietnam
    by By Sidney Lens, Howard Zinn
    Pages 327 & 328

    For Roosevelt, the “new era” meant a shift from the imperialism of the past, in which Britain and France ruled great colonial empires, to a softer imperialism, in which the United States was pre-dominant. He articulated his particular vision of the future on many occasions. Commenting on the good-neighbour policy in 1940, for instance, FDR defined a new approach to underdeveloped countries-“give them a share”-while simultaneously expressing the opinion that it was “a terribly interesting idea” that Britain would have to sell much of its holding in Latin America to finance its war-holdings of course would end up in the hands of American entrepreneurs. “We’ve got to make very clear to the British from the very onset,” Roosevelt remarked to his son Elliot, “that we don’t intend to be simply a good-time Charlie who can be used to help the British Empire out of a tight spot, and then be forgotten forever.” His bias against the old colonialism was so evident that during an informal dinner at the Atlantic Conference in August 1941, Churchill pointed as stubby finger at the American chief executive and exclaimed: “Mr. President, I believe you are trying to do away with the British Empire. Every idea you entertain about the structure of the postwar world demonstrates it.”

    Yet, Roosevelt’s opposition to the old imperial system was not predicated on idealism but on the practical and materialistic desire to enhance American trade and investment.

    • Replies: @Malla
  310. Talha says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    You can win a war, you can win land, you can gain the entire world and still lose your soul. That is no victory.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  311. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Some snippets from Douglas Reed’s book ‘South of the Suez’ will throw some light on this conspiracy.

    “The dark man wants to see the white man’s town, to earn a few coins, to buy enchanting
    things in the white man’s bazaars. One day he disappears from the kraal and travels perhaps
    hundreds of miles through scrub and bush. He slips across the frontier and soon another lost one
    joins Johannesburg’s dark legion. These men forget their native land, their people, the laws and
    customs they once obeyed. They become almost as rootless as the Negroes of America. From the
    ranks of the white men one welcoming hand is extended to them, in the spirit in which Mephisto
    gave his to Faust over a good bargain (but these men have never heard of Faust). The Communist Party courts them, tells them the white man hates them and they must hate the white man and drive him one day into the sea. The driving-power of the Communist Party is supplied, as in other countries, by men from Eastern Europe, or the children of such. The newcomer thought himself lucky, perhaps, to put behind him the dullness of village life and come to the city. He was not aggrieved, but now white men tell him how badly treated he is. ”

    “In England a chief Communist objective is to prevent emigration, particularly to
    Africa and to South Africa. Clearly Africa looms large in Communist plans for the second half of this century; supreme importance appears to be attached to preventing the rise of great white
    populations there, and South Africa is plainly seen as the key to this matter. This is the real reason for the constant attacks on South Africa in London’s Leftist newspapers.
    Similarly, in South Africa the Communists actively support the campaign against The Immigrants, telling the rural Afrikaner that ‘the Jingoes’ will swamp his Afrikanerdom and the Natal British that they will encroach on employment and housing. The South African newspapers’ practice of publishing pseudonymous letters facilitates this agitation; obviously doubtful epistles, expressing violent distaste for South Africa, appear over such signatures as ‘Blighty for me’, ‘I’ve had it’, and so on. ”

    “It is quite easy to understand this technique … If England can be kept in a weakened
    condition by over-population, and Canada prevented from becoming stronger by under-population
    and industrial development, they both become an easy prey for Communist aggression.’ ”

    “The long arms of those two great forces which appear to me to join in wreaking the havoc of our
    time reach even into this little fastness. The money-power and the revolutionary-power both spread their grasp over it. In every little town stands the office of the Mines Recruiting Corporation, and through its doors passes the constant stream of Basuto going to Johannesburg to dig gold for entombment in Kentucky. In the reverse direction, across the mountains from Johannesburg, come the Communist organizers. Natives who have received ‘education’ in this sense and operate the little printing-presses in Maseru or work among the tribesmen. No land is too small or remote for the Communist Party if it offers the prospect of setting white man against dark one, tribesman against chief, or Boer against Briton, in pursuit of the larger design. ”

    “The Communist and Zionist newspapers maintain it in England and South Africa, but the great bulk of it comes from America, where I later studied it with fascination. It is an amazing example of the subtle encouragement of passions. Negro Communists are paraded as typical specimens of an oppressed race (the Negro population as a whole is unresponsive to Communism). Some guiding hand gives a specious trend to all literature and entertainment. The book supplements of the leading newspapers each week review a mass of books about ‘the colour bar’, and mysterious committees make ‘awards’ to many of these. If an objective book about the subject appears in some other country, it may be taken over and made into a play which proves to be anti-colour-bar propaganda. The theme is constantly introduced into radio programmes, films, dramatic plays and even musical plays; London playgoers will find it in some of the great American successes performed there in recent years. Most of the big newspapers ‘run’ it as incessantly as the comic-strips. “

    • Replies: @Malla
  312. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Same thing happened in Rhodesia, India, Angola, you name it. De-colonisation was a big conspiracy.

    “America makes local forays “against Communism” which leave no dent in the thing itself and end in semi-fiasco (witness Korea, Vietnam, Cuba). Betweenwhiles, American State patronage of the revolution in reality goes on and is plainest to see in Africa, where implacable American pressure for “black majority rule” has helped bring about the present chaos of racial and tribal warfare in northern Africa, under cover of which communism, leaping over the Middle East and the Indian Ocean, has planted its first overseas colony-in-embryo at Dar es Salaam on the East African coast, whence “news” about the rest of Africa reaches the ears of “the free world” through the B.B.C. and the Voice of America. ”

    “The logical next step was independence for Southern Rhodesia, far more advanced than the others, self-governing for forty years, raised by its own bootstraps to its status, without monetary or other help from others. More than thirty new “States” had been fabricated out of the tribal complex of Africa and were being propped up with British money while they clamoured for war in New York.^^^ It was unimaginable, in 1963, that to Rhodesia alone, in all this continent, independence should be denied. ”

    more from the book

    “As by careful planning, all the sources of war conjoin at this moment in time: the case against South Africa at the International Court, the published plan for war on South Africa (see a later chapter), the siege of Rhodesia, the communist terrorism in Rhodesia, the war- mongering majority of irresponsibles in the United Nations, and, above all, the now public incitement by the United States (if its representative there speaks for the President, as one must assume, and not against him).

    A perilous brink, my masters, and I trust that you may think on these things when next you hear or
    read about “freedom fighters” or “guerillas” in Rhodesia. May your minds then conjure up the
    image of that constant shuttle- service between Lusaka, Dar es Salaam and the distant communist
    terrorist-camps; of the encouragement given to all that by your politicians in London, Washington
    and New York; and of that lonely mud-and-wattle hut blazing in the night with black folk trapped
    inside. ”

    “All that was done, and could not come again unless it came from outside. But the voices from across the border, from London, from something incomprehensible to “the African people” called the United Nations in New York continued their incitement: the shuttle-service between Dar es Salaam and communist Asia plied on … The terror by night still lurked in the alien shadows. ”

    Tanzania (hence its capital Dar es Salaam) was a semi communist country then and the communist Soviets and Chinese had set up training camps in that country for these terrorists, often described as “Black Nationalists” or “freedom fighters” by the controlled commie Western media. All funded by American/British money.

    more from the book below

    “These were forced on it by the encouragement given in London and New York to the terrorists called “African nationalists” (a meaningless term in any context, let alone that of a continent containing a multitude of different, mutually antagonistic races, peoples and tribes. Are there, then “European nationalists” and “Asiatic nationalists”? Would the United States tolerate the idea of “South American nationalists”?). “

    • Replies: @Malla
  313. @AaronB

    No, actually burglars of Jewlry stores in NYC in the early part of the 20th century were first to punch holes in adjoing walls. Then again the store owners were predominately Jewish, so they, theives in their own right, learned something from the real theives and passed it on. just joking.

  314. Iris says:
    @Joe Levantine

    I would appreciate that you state your sources so the diligent reader and commenter at UR can expand his/her quest of the truth.

    The Taking of Algiers was a planned robbery.

    Unlike what we are told in History books about the taking of Algiers being motivated by avenging French honour after the “Fly Whisk Incident”, or civilising the Barbarians, or even freeing the Barbarians from Ottoman crutches and other imperialist nonsense, the real and planned reason for the expedition was, from the get-go, to get hold of the treasure of Algiers.

    It was known that the Ottoman ruler Dey Hussein was holding a considerable treasure in the vaults under his Diwan administrative quarters in the Kassabah. This treasure was later assessed to be composed of no less than 62 tons of gold, 240 tons of silver, and countless amounts of jewellery, diamonds and other precious gems.

    Information on this treasure was patiently and methodically collected over the years by Jewish merchants Michel Busnach and Joseph Cohen Bacri. It is these same merchants to whom France owed money for grains and cereals, and who put an insisting pressure on the ill-advised Dey to confront France.

    When the Algiers expedition was set up, the entire logistics was entrusted without any competition to an obscure and burgeoning supplier, the Seilliere family, despite the French army having at least 3 official suppliers. The Seillieres were close from the Jewish banking industry of Alsace, Eastern France.

    When Algiers was taken, the Kassabah was ransacked and the treasure appropriated. However, it is now known that only about a tenth of it was directed to the official French Treasury. The bulk of it disappeared.

    Small fractions were kept by the senior military within the French expedition force. The bulk of the treasure was confided into the hands of the Seillieres. Having chartered 357 ships for the operation, they were the only ones able to transport the product of the heist. As bankers, they were also in a position to issue letters of credits to less powerful looters wishing to remain anonymous.

    So the bulk of the treasure sailed undercover into the Seillieres’ ships towards France. While a large part should have gone to King Charles X, he also, coincidentally or not, was ill-advised enough to issue very unpopular decrees, which resulted in a Parisian uprising called “Les Trois Glorieuses” (the three glorious day) that brought about his demise, hasty flee to England and his replacement by King Louis Phillipe.

    So the bulk of the “Biggest Heist Ever” at the time remained under control of the Seillieres, making them one of the richest families in France to the day, allied to the Schneiders and the De Wendel, who became respectively France’s main cannon makers and foremost industrialists.
    All those names were initially obscure Jewish families from Alsace, who nicely coordinated with Jewish merchants from Algiers, Marseille and Livorno to take control of the largest treasure ever sized on one go, with the French Army playing along. It is not difficult to guess who was the mastermind.

    A few military denounced the robbery. General Clauzel organised a inquiry commission which was hastily disbanded after a fortnight without any outcome. Bribery clearly settled the matter.

    These are facts, proven by undisputed French and British records. They are ignored by official history because official history is mostly made of ideology suiting the domineering powers.
    The loot of Algiers as primary goal of the expedition was reminded to our memory by outstanding investigative journalist Pierre Pean, arguably the foremost and most respected in his profession.

    In “Main basse sur Alger : enquête sur un pillage, juillet 1830″ (Plon, 2004)

    • Thanks: Robjil
  315. @AaronB

    Actually, Thucydides describes the Plataeans using this technique to drive out an infiltrating force of Thebans in 431 B.C.

  316. Seraphim says:
    @Joe Levantine

    The problem is not so much the location of Troy, but the historicity of Homeric poems which was put in doubt since Antiquity. Homer’s descriptions do not match well with what we know from the archaeology of the Eastern Mediterranean, Anatolia, Egypt at the supposed time of the Trojan War. The identification of Hissarlik with Troy, made by Schliemann was a subject of controversy to our days.
    It is increasingly clear that the events described in the poems fit better in the era of turmoils of Late Bronze Age brought about by the great movement of the ‘Sea Peoples’ coming from the Western Mediterranean and very likely beyond, i.e. the Atlantic fringe. Moreover, the society described by Homer fit almost perfectly with what we know about the Celtic society of Western Europe, including the British Isles, in the Bronze Age.
    That would better explain the tenacity of the ‘Trojan origins myth’ as foundation myths of the French and British ‘nations’ (e.g. in British chronicles London was called ‘Trinovantum, Troia Nova’, New Troy and the most powerful tribe at the time of Caesar’s invasion, were the ‘Trinovantes’).

  317. Alden says:
    @Iris

    Wow, thank you so much. I’ll keep it. It’s as bad as the Dutch William and Mary Jewish Amsterdam bankers take over of England.

    But remember, much of the treasure of Algeria cane not from honest farming production selling exporting and trade but from piracy of European ships and the labor and selling of European slaves.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @buzzwar
    , @Iris
  318. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Which is why you seem to miss my original point. Any attempts at re-colonization today will be met with swift resistance by the population.

    Yes, I totally agree with you. And of course I am totally against any form of recolonisation anyways. For better or for worse.

    My main point was that most colonised people were cool with the Empires they were part of by the early 1900s. From a self pride perspective maybe of course they would have wanted their guy in the driving seat and not be part of some Whitey or Jap’s empire. But these colonial empire had become benign with time and were doing a lot of development, there were benefits in being parts of these empires, in many cases the colonial officers were actually less corrupt than the natives, more kinder to the disadvantaged and fair in dealing with matters in between different ethnic/religious/ racial/sectarian etc… groups as they were impartial outsiders. There were benefits in being associated with these Empires and the majority populations lived in inertia. My point is there were international forces who wanted these European (and even Japanese) Empires dismantled, many of these anti-colonial movements as well as Communist Revolutions were funded and supported by international forces and in some cases, even some of the powerful elites of the Home nations themselves were in it. In other words these Empires dismantled themselves, which was part of some larger plans. For example, the Secretary of State of India, Samuel Montague wrote in the Montague Clemsford Report that the British Raj would itself create Indian Nationalism!!!
    It is very very difficult to defeat a modern state via revolution unless you have some powerful internationalist backers. And that is why I believe most of these anti-colonial movements were mostly fake and so were movements like the Russian Revolution or the ANC of South Africa.
    And that is also the reason why movements like the Palestinians or the Kashmiris do not succeed. It is very very difficult to defeat a modern state (actually it was the Pakistani ISI chief Hamid Gul who said the same thing in one interview). Without clandestine external help (globalist/ Wall Street/ communist) or internal help (some of the elites of the home countries themselves dismantling the Empire because of some greater future globalist geopolitical plans) none of these “freedom struggles/ revolutions” of the 20th century would have succeeded in the way they succeeded. And that is why these anti-colonial “movements/ struggles” against European or local White rule (South Africa/ Rhodesia) can never be the templates for places like Palestine or Kashmir or Irian Jaya/ Western Papua. If the Palestinian struggle would have been against gentile White settlers or if Kashmir/ Irian Jaya was trying to get independence from some White nation rule, they would have been successful like decades ago. The “World Community” (Globalist banking elites) would have come down on the enemies of the Palestinians/ Kashmiris/ West Papuans with all its fury, with much more intensive sanctions and the “international media” blaring 24/7 about these atrocities.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  319. Alden says:
    @Robjil

    2 more famous Europeans captured and enslaved by Algerian pirates

    Anerica’s captain John Smith of Jamestown. Before he adventure to Virginia he was captured and enslaved by Algerians. He escaped and made his way back to England.

    Saint Vincent de Paul was a French priest mid 1600s. He was captured and enslaved by Algerian pirates. After several years he was ransomed with a batch of slaves.

    He founded the charitable & medical Vincent de Paul society which still exists. It runs 20 hospitals in the United States some universities a chain of second hand stores like Goodwill and a social charitable club.

    They were the lucky ones. Most died in Algeria.

    All the mothers of the Seljuk and ottoman sultans were European slave girls captured and sold. Turkish Sultans did not marry. They did not buy Turkish slave women. Only one sultan married his Russian slave mother of his children, Suleiman the magnificent married Russian Roxana.

    Think about the hundreds of thousands of young European Christian girls who didn’t end up in Topaki palace but in nasty brothels and hard labor slavery.

    The Turkish slave raiders raided as far west and north as Greenland. Greenland slaves were ransomed and rescued. Except for a few big fortified cities, the Mediterranean shores of France were uninhabited because of Algerian raids.

    In 1630 the Pilgrims of Massachusetts sent a shipload of beaver skin to England. Turkish pirates raided and stole the cargo of beaver skins.

    Off topic just clicked through TV channels. A big fat ugly black women is proclaiming that covid hoax will be so bad in November we won’t be able to have any in person voting, just mail in ballots. Also claims Russians are already interfering in behalf of Trump Biden is sitting right next to her.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  320. Malla says:
    @Talha

    This was fairly common during colonial times across the world; resisting populations could expect to be massacred down to women and children, villages burned to the ground, etc.

    One correction, this was fairly common in human history.

    Besides, I do not know of such instances of the British doing something like that in India. Or even if these happened, they were very rare.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

    There are a lot of cases of Muslims armies massacring Hindus such as:

    In 1365, 500,000 inhabitants were massacred in all the districts surrounding Vijayanagara by the Bahmani Sultanate soldiers. In Raichur Doab alone, 70,000 Hindus were massacred by the army of the Bahmani Sultanate in response to killing of the garrison of Mudgal.

    In 1353, Firuz Shah invaded Bengal after it rebelled and paid for the 180,000 heads of Hindus massacred by his soldiers

    In 1398, during the Timurid massacre of Delhi, Hindus of the city were killed or enslaved. After the massacre ended, the survivors either died of famine and disease and Timur’s forces further enslaved many people.

    OR we had Hindu armies massacring both fellow Hindus and Muslims such as:

    During the 1741-1751, Hindu Maratha expeditions in Bengal Subah, over 400,000 people were killed in Bengal and Bihar including textile workers, merchants and other inhabitants.

    Very few British massacres of Indians, the most famous one was the Jalianwala Bagh Massacre but that has its own story behind it. I will cover it someday in the future, I had covered it once before somewhere on Unz.

    Looks like the British conquest of India was far more humane compared to the French conquest of North Africa.

    • Replies: @Talha
  321. Malla says:
    @Robjil

    Thanks for this info. That is why I say Europeans do not have any unity. You had European privateers joining up with North African Corsairs to capture European villagers to be sold into slavery in North Africa. You had Vikings selling pagan Slavs as slaves to Arabs. No unity among Europeans.

    As far as those privateers, unless of course, those European Privateers were crypto Jews. TruthHertz Radio’s Charles Guilliani had done a radio show where he discussed that many of the famous European pirates and privateers were crypto Jews who enjoyed preying on Spanish ships as revenge on the Spaniards. And they were helped by crypto Jewish North African pirates at times. There were many Jewish tribes in North Africa since pre Islamic times. Sigmund Fraud the scumbag day dreamed of being Hannibal laeding Carthage into war with Rome and destroying Rome. He did destroy Europa (Rome) with his disgusting theories and propaganda.
    There were even theories that Warrior queen Dihya was crypto Jewish. Who was Dihya?

    From Wikipedia:

    Dihya or Kahina was a Berber warrior queen and a religious and military leader who led indigenous resistance to the Muslim conquest of the Maghreb, the region then known as Numidia. She was born in the early 7th century and died around the end of the 7th century in modern-day Algeria.

    She was born into the Jrāwa Zenata tribe in the early 7th century.

    Dihya succeeded Kusaila as the war leader of the Berber tribes in the 680s and opposed the encroaching Arab Islamic armies of the Umayyad Dynasty. Hasan ibn al-Nu’man marched from Egypt and captured the major Byzantine city of Carthage and other cities (see Muslim conquest of North Africa). Searching for another enemy to defeat, he was told that the most powerful monarch in North Africa was “the Queen of the Berbers” (Arabic: malikat al-barbar) Dihyā, and accordingly marched into Numidia. In 698, the armies met near Meskiana[10] in the present-day province of Oum el-Bouaghi at the Battle of Meskiana [fr] (or “battle of camels”) in Algeria.[11] She defeated Hasan so soundly that he fled Ifriqiya and holed up in Cyrenaica (Libya) for four or five years. Realizing that the enemy was too powerful and bound to return, she was said to have embarked on a scorched earth campaign, which had little impact on the mountain and desert tribes, but lost her the crucial support of the sedentary oasis-dwellers. Instead of discouraging the Arab armies, her desperate decision hastened defeat.

    The story of the Kahina is told by a variety of cultures, and each story often offers a different, or even contradictory, perspective. For example, the story is used to promote feminist beliefs. Additionally, it is even told by Arabs to promote their own nationalism. For the Arabs, they told the story in a perspective that made the Kahina seem like a sorcerer, all in an attempt to discredit her. Some Arab historians took it even farther by saying that the Kahina eventually tried to have her sons adopt Islam as their religion. Another group that told the story of the Kahina was the French. The story of the Kahina was told to paint colonialism in a positive light. The story was told with a message saying that it represented the freeing of Berbers from the Arabs.

    For five years she ruled a free Berber state from the Aurès Mountains to the oasis of Gadames (695–700 CE).

    But the Arabs, commanded by Musa bin Nusayr, returned with a strong army and defeated her. She fought at the El Djem Roman amphitheater but finally was killed in combat near a well that still bears her name, Bir al Kahina in Aures.

    Accounts from the 19th century on claim she was of Jewish religion or that her tribe were Judaized Berbers. According to al-Mālikī, she was accompanied in her travels by an “idol”. Both Mohamed Talbi and Gabriel Camps interpreted this idol as a Christian icon, either of Christ, the Virgin, or a saint protecting the queen. M’hamed Hassine Fantar held that this icon represented a separate Berber deity, and thus made Dihya a pagan. However, Dihya being a Christian remains the most likely hypothesis.

    The idea that the Jarawa were Judaized comes from the medieval historian Ibn Khaldun, who named them among seven Berber tribes. Hirschberg and Talbi note that Ibn Khaldun seems to have been referring to a time before the advent of the late Roman and Byzantine empires, and a little later in the same paragraph seems to say that by Roman times “the tribes” had become Christianized. As early as 1963, the Israeli historian H.Z. Hirschberg, in retranslating the text of Ibn Khaldun and rigorously repeating the whole document, questioned this interpretation, and in general the existence of large Jewish Berber tribes in the end of Antiquity. In the words of H.Z. Hirschberg, “of all the known movements of conversion to Judaism and incidents of Judaizing, those connected with the Berbers and Sudanese in Africa are the least authenticated. Whatever has been written on them is extremely questionable.”

    So maybe she was not Jewish, maybe she was. But there are theories of Jewish tribes living in North Africa from ancient times.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  322. Malla says:
    @Malla

    More snippets from another of Mr. Reed’s book ‘The Siege Of Southern Africa’, published in 1974

    “In Angola they are engaged, as they well know, in a war (“Rebels” vs the Portuguese colonial Govt) which they cannot militarily win because it is not a war at all, in any sense in which the word was ever used in history. It is an international conspiracy (in support of the “rebels” against the Portuguese Empire) in which half the governments of the world join, wearing the mocking mask of moral indignation: Russian and Chinese Communists, American Quakers, British Socialists, Norwegian, Swedish and German Socialists. It can go on as long as hireling murderers can be enlisted by the promise of loot, women, private vengeance and political appointments. It can go on as long as America, Russia, China, “the satellite States”, Cuba and Algeria flood Africa with arms for these hirelings, and as long as the Socialist party in England and the Roosevelt school in America lavish money on them.”

    “The open frontal attack has not happened, or not yet, and the siege of Southern Africa which has been conducted during the last decade is of an entirely new nature. It is one of bombardment by falsehood, threat and menace from the body ludicrously called the “United Nations” in New York; of murder, arson and rapine by hired assassins on the borders of the four countries chiefly besieged; and of incitement by words and money gifts from innumerable “democratic” Governments and Communist “cover organizations” all over the world.”

    “These emissaries infiltrate into the Ovambo villages by night and “disturb and incite the tribespeople, particularly the young men, with tales of coming invasions patronized by the House of Helots (United Nations) in New York and limitlessly supplied with Chinese and Russian arms. The leftist-liberal world conspiracy has reached into this remote and peaceful pastoral community. ”

    “Mr. Ruark did not add what I will append here: these hideous miscreants were the proteges of those ravening wolves, the Liberals of New York, as well as the hirelings of Communism. Their leader, an abominable creature of many aliases, is best known as Holden Roberto. Just eighteen months before the massacre he went to the United States where he was made warmly welcome by the American Committee on Africa, the State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency and Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt.”
    Hideous miscreants in the above snippet refers to terrorists (today history calls them “freedom fighters” LOL) who massacred both blacks and Whites, trained by communist USSR, China and North Korea and financed by the USA (Wall Street bankers).

  323. @Talha

    Back when I was young, homeless were uncommon in the US. They were mostly alcoholic older men, druggies.

    The idea of losing a Triple A rating would have been absurd in the late 90’s.

    Look at the US now.

  324. Vojkan says:
    @Iris

    So Jews conspired to profit from the French putting an end to piracy by looting the treasury Barbaric pirates had looted from the French and other Europeans. How does that make the French decision to put an end to Barbaric piracy unjustified?

    • Agree: Alden
  325. Vojkan says:
    @Bookish1

    It is true that I don’t know what they think but we are not what we pretend or think or believe to be, we are our deeds.

  326. Malla says:
    @Iris

    Thank you Iris, it seems both colonization as well as decolonization were funded/ driven by the Zio elites. Even the British control of Suez Canal in Egypt had Rothschild written all over it.

    However, it is now known that only about a tenth of it was directed to the official French Treasury. The bulk of it disappeared.

    So the Algerians people were looted and it went into the coffers of powerful Jewish bankers. Just like the humongous accumulated wealth of the Tzars and the Russian people were looted after the “Russian” “Revolution”. Who knows where this Algerian, Russian and other people’s wealth ended up? Israel?

    This still continues via the invade the World, invite the World policy today. Use the Western powers to invade the non Western world and then invite non Western populations inside the West. Use the Western economic military machines as weapons against Third World countries like Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan etc… and then use Third World populations as weapons against Whites inside the West. Both Invade the World and Invite the World must stop.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  327. Malla says:
    @Just Passing Through

    O have heard that Muslims have their own law in India when it comes to personal matters like marriage, a remnant of the colonial era when we British wanted things to roll along as smoothly as possible, has the BJP scrapped this law?

    Yes they did.

    You forget the killing of Muslims in Gujrat State of India, when Modi was the Chief Minister there. Haren Pandya, the home minister of Gujarat State who was about to spill the beans about Modi’s involvement in the killing of innocent Muslims was assassinated, mafiaso style. Sanjiv Bhatt is a former Indian Police Service officer from Gujarat who filed an affidavit in the Supreme Court of India against the then Chief Minister of the Government of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, concerning Modi’s alleged role in the 2002 Gujarat riots where many innocent Muslims were killed, ended up being sent to jail on bogus charges of murder.
    Also Modi’s right hand man, Amit Shah, and the present Home Minister of India, probably the most powerful person in India right now was charged with the involvement of Police killing of Sohrabuddin Sheikh and his wife, who were false implicated to be Muslim terrorists and agents of Pakistani ISI. Guess what? The judge Brijgopal Harkishan Loya, who was to see through this case which could have led to the imprisonment of the goon BJP minister Amit Shah, mysteriously died. He was initially offered a bribe of 1 billion Rupees to get Amit Shah acquitted, when he refused, he died, his body was dumped infront of his house, his family lived in terror and his cell phone was returned by a RSS Hindu fundamentalist thug, not by the police, mind you. Remember we are dealing with a Supreme Court Judge here.
    More on that here
    https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/what-is-the-justice-loya-case-and-how-is-amit-shah-involved
    What is the Justice Loya case and how is Amit Shah involved

    You forget the lynching of innocent Muslims on the suspicion of transporting beef. Even though many beef exporting companies are owned by rich Hindus. Low IQ Unemployed Hindu fundamentalist thugs patrol the streets and take protection money from Muslims and then once in a while they kill off some innocent Muslim truck driver by lynching.

    Basically we have goon thug Raj in India under these low IQ Hindu fundamantalists.

    Then we have Pragya Thakur, a Hindu fundamentalist “holy” woman who was implicated in terrorist activities, the Malegaon case, where Hindu fundamentalists were behind bomb blasts to false implicate Muslims in a place called Malegaon. Indian investigative agencies found out a huge conspiracy of Hindu fundamentalists. It involved an Indian army captain Purohit who had deep links to Israel. The ATS (Anti Terrorist Squad) chief in this case, Police officer Hemant Karkare was mysteriously killed in the Mumbai Terrorist attacks. Pragya Thakur was mysterious acquitted and is now a MP from the BJP party, she is very close to Amit Shah.
    More on that here
    https://scroll.in/article/930093/special-report-how-nia-went-soft-on-pragya-thakur-and-is-now-delaying-the-malegaon-trial
    Special Report: How NIA went soft on Pragya Thakur – and is now delaying the Malegaon trial
    Six people were killed in the 2008 bomb blast in which Thakur, the newly elected BJP MP, is the prime accused

    And some praiseworthy actions by Hindu Fundamentalists

    Gauri Lankesh was an Indian journalist-turned-activist from Bangalore, Karnataka. She worked as an editor in Lankesh Patrike, a Kannada weekly started by her father P. Lankesh, and ran her own weekly called Gauri Lankesh Patrike. Gauri was known for being a critic of right-wing Hindu extremism. She was honored with Anna Politkovskaya Award for speaking against right-wing Hindu extremism, campaigning for women’s rights and opposing caste based discrimination.
    SHOT DEAD BY HINDU FUNDAMENTALISTS.

    Narendra Achyut Dabholkar was an Indian medical doctor, social activist, rationalist and author. In 1989 he founded and became president of the Maharashtra Andhashraddha Nirmoolan Samiti (MANS), (the Committee to Eradicate Superstition in Maharashtra). He was awarded the Padma Shri for social work. In 2010, Dabholkar made several failed attempts to get an anti-superstition law enacted in the state of Maharashtra. Under his supervision, MANS drafted the Anti-Jaadu Tona Bill (Anti-Superstition and Black Magic Ordinance). Hindu fundamentalist political parties like the Bharatiya Janata Party and the Shiv Sena opposed it claiming it would adversely affect Hindu culture, customs and traditions. Critics accused him of being anti-religion but in an interview with the Agence France-Presse news agency he said, “In the whole of the bill, there’s not a single word about God or religion. Nothing like that. The Indian constitution allows freedom of worship and nobody can take that away, this is about fraudulent and exploitative practices.”
    Dabholkar had faced several threats and assaults since 1983 but had rejected police protection. On 20th April 2013, SHOT DEAD BY HINDU FUNDAMENTALISTS.

    Govind Pansare was a Communist Rationalist who opposed Hindu superstitions. Pansare used to run an organisation which encouraged inter-caste marriages. He had opposed the Putrakameshti yajna, a Hindu ritual that supposed results in a male child. He had also criticised the glorification of Nathuram Godse, the man who killed Mahatma Gandhi. He represented various labour unions and fought for the rights of poor slum dwellers After the murder of Narendra Dabholkar, the anti-superstition activist, Pansare had asked the members of Maharashtra Andhashraddha Nirmoolan Samiti to continue his work. Pansare has written 21 books, most of them commentaries on social wrongs.
    He and his wife Uma, SHOT DEAD BY HINDU FUNDAMENTALISTS.

    Malleshappa Madivalappa Kalburgi, an Indian scholar of Vachana sahitya (Vachana literature) and academic who served as the vice-chancellor of Kannada University in Hampi. A noted epigraphist of Kannada, he was awarded the National Sahitya Akademi Award in 2006 for Marga 4, a collection of his research articles.
    In 2014, he had spoken against superstitions in Hinduism, which some people misinterpreted as being against idolatry in Hinduism. SHOT DEAD BY HINDU FUNDAMENTALISTS.

    More on that here
    https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/who-killed-gauri-kalburgi-dabholkar-pansare-the-puzzle-cracks-slowly/300555
    Who Killed Gauri, Kalburgi, Dabholkar, Pansare? The Puzzle Cracks, Slowly
    A year after Gauri Lankesh’s murder, the trail of a network of radical Hindu right-wing operatives that investigators in Karnataka have been piecing together now appears to be widening, and their paths criss-crossing.

  328. Talha says:
    @Malla

    One correction, this was fairly common in human history.

    Good point.

    There are a lot of cases of Muslims armies massacring Hindus

    That is true. Though I might contest the numbers a bit; medieval estimates are often overblown. But yes, the Muslims that conquered deep into India were usually Persianized Turks or Turco-Afghans, etc. They could be fairly brutal in reprisal.

    On the one positive side or benefit, they were very tough and hardy warriors and probably saved the Indian populace from a much, much worse fate by being one of the few armies to beat back the Mongols. Had the Mongols penetrated into the deeper recesses of India, those numbers you posted would have been nothing in comparison.

    Looks like the British conquest of India was far more humane compared to the French conquest of North Africa.

    Absolutely. In terms of European colonial brutality, I’d probably put it in this order:
    Spanish
    Portuguese
    French
    Italian
    Dutch (tied with Belgian)
    English (though the Boers might disagree) – the English were more about profits and utilization of resources, the French were more about settlement and ownership resources. In one situation, the native population is integral to the enterprise, in the other, they are a liability.

    Peace.

    • Disagree: L.K
    • Replies: @buzzwar
    , @Malla
  329. Talha says:
    @Malla

    My main point was that most colonised people were cool with the Empires they were part of by the early 1900s. From a self pride perspective maybe of course they would have wanted their guy in the driving seat and not be part of some Whitey or Jap’s empire. But these colonial empire had become benign with time and were doing a lot of development, there were benefits in being parts of these empires, in many cases the colonial officers were actually less corrupt than the natives, more kinder to the disadvantaged and fair in dealing with matters in between different ethnic/religious/ racial/sectarian etc… groups as they were impartial outsiders.

    OK – I’ll have to agree with you to a degree there. Not all of the colonial enterprises were as benign as others (see my list), but yes, overall they did become gradually more benign over time – no doubt about this.

    It is very very difficult to defeat a modern state via revolution unless you have some powerful internationalist backers.

    That is a reasonable point.

    And that is why these anti-colonial “movements/ struggles” against European or local White rule (South Africa/ Rhodesia) can never be the templates for places like Palestine or Kashmir or Irian Jaya/ Western Papua.

    Though you have to admit, East Timor did gain freedom after a fairly bloody struggle – so there’s that. The Acehnese also tried, but were curb-stomped by the Kopassus.

    Peace.

  330. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Canada was useless until the mid late 19th century with the railroads and central heat. The 1759 conquest of Canada was during The Little Ice Age when Canada was even colder than it is now. Even today, most Canadians live within 50 miles of the US border.

    The Indians, First Nations live on the reservations in summer. Most have housing complexes near the southern border with the US. Those with kids move south in late August to begin the school year. Everybody else moves south in October.

    After France was defeated in 1759, England really wanted Haiti then the wealthiest country in the world due to sugar and a much less expensive crop, coffee. Think today’s Kuwait.

    France kept the sugar wealth of Haiti and England got a colony that could barely feed itself. 40 years later France lost Haiti, invented beet sugar and Haiti became one of the poorest countries in the world.

  331. buzzwar says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    “The suitcase or the coffin ” is a propaganda slogan initiated by the terrorist organisation the OAS and perpetuated by colonialists. Despite the extremist propaganda conveyed by guillaume durocher and the likes of him, which want make us believe that all the french had left Algeria, the truth is that after 1962 more than 200.000 french stayed in Algeria. And some till this day are still leaving in Algeria.
    This is fully documented in Pierre Daum book “without suitcase or coffin”.
    (https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2008/05/DAUM/15870)
    If you want to understand what happened in Algeria during the french rule look at what is happening now in palestine.

  332. buzzwar says:
    @Talha

    For the french, the algerians disagree. they should top the list.

    • Replies: @Talha
  333. Alden says:
    @Malla

    Thanks for the politically incorrect post. Like to add that the Vatican was originally just a collection of buildings like a modern college campus or industrial park.

    By 7750 AD Muslim bandits were installed in that part of Italy. The Vatican complex was constantly harassed and attacked. Between 800AD and 800 20s the wall was built for the sole purpose of keeping the Muslim army of burglars and thieves out

    700 AD conquest of Spain right up to 1800s buying and selling of Greek Balkan and Slav slaves and raids on the northern shores of the Mediterranean.
    It ended with the closing of the Pirate Port of Algiers by France in the 1830s.

    After a hiatus of about 150 years the Muslim invasion of Europe began again; instigated and led by European elites.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @buzzwar
    , @Malla
  334. Talha says:
    @buzzwar

    Likely, because they weren’t colonized by the Spanish.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @buzzwar
  335. buzzwar says:
    @Alden

    Piracy was not a trademark of the kingdom of Algiers. it is well known and documented that the european nations such as Spain, France and Italy practised piracy and looting on the other side of the mediterranean. (https://journals.openedition.org/medievales/500)

    Speaking of honest farming, the kingdom of Algiers was the main wheat supplier to the South European countries, including France, for decades.
    (https://glycines.hypotheses.org/93)

    • Replies: @Robjil
  336. buzzwar says:
    @Anonymous

    You cannot uproot a people with 3000+ years history.

    • Replies: @Talha
  337. Talha says:
    @buzzwar

    You can – it’s been done before, but it takes a pretty ruthless level of meting out over-the-top violence.

    Also, if you give people no choice but to face annihilation, then they will fight to the last and it will certainly cost a lot more of your side and resources. The French were pretty ruthless in their campaigns to bring the rebellion to heel in Algeria, but they were a bit like the Mongols in a certain regard. They could be indiscriminate and over-the-top in the violence if you resisted to make an example out of you to everyone else (which is why Amir Abdul Qadir [ra] started losing support among the various tribes, since the cost to support him was complete eradication), but if you capitulated they were willing to come to a level of terms.

    The thing with Europeans seems to be that every time they get the jump on everyone else they remember how much more they like to go postal on each other…so they have another one of those periodic continental wars that blast each other to kingdom come. And then have to deal with the fallout of becoming weakened from their original position and lose what they gained. In WW2 this translated, for instance, into inviting Algerians (as well as others) to take part in invasions on the Southern Mediterranean front.

    Much earlier, Napoleon’s successful Egypt and Levant campaign was brought to a quick halt – not by the natives, the French blew out their competition in the majority of their engagements – but by Britain intervening and completely handing the French their backsides in the Battle of the Nile.

    The biggest advantage the rest of the world has generally had in this regard is European disunity and in-fighting. For instance, think about where exactly the world’s largest nuclear weapons arsenals are pointed at and by whom.

    Seems to be a Divinely measured set of checks and balances so that no one people hold the king-of-the-hill position for too long and things remain interesting.

    Peace.

  338. buzzwar says:

    Guillaume Durocher’s point of view on the Algerian war as well as on colonization is that of the extreme French right which never accepted the independence of Algeria and the Algerian people. The independence was inevitable, De Gaulle or not. The merit of De Gaulle is to have accelerated the process of independence. While it can be considered that the algerian combatants lost the asymmetric war, thanks to the NATO war machine, Algeria won the diplomatic war. On the diplomatic level Algeria enjoyed the support of the majority of the member states of the UN, with the exception of a few countries including France,of course, and Israel (In the Algerian war, Zion was manoeuvering behind the scene, the french terrorist organisation OAS had a jewish section). In the USA, Algeria already had the support of the then senator JFK (In fact the support of the americans for the algerian armed struggle dates back to the mid-nineteen century when they decided to name a city (El Kader, Iowa) after Emir Abdelkader, the Algerian religious and military leader who led the struggle against the French colonial invasion in the mid-19th century).
    The Algerian war was not a euro-muslim war as since many algerians (for one reason or another) sided with the french colonial power. On the other hand, many french as well sided with the algerian revolution. So it is not a euro-muslim war as Guillaume Durocher wants us to believe. It is a colonial war which was designed to establish and maintain a dominion in order to control the riches of the land at the expense of the indigenous people. Under the french colonial, Algeria was a a large agricultural and mining operation dedicated to the to the exclusive benefit of the settlers and metropolitan France. On the other hand, Guillaume Durocher speaks of the algerian combatants as terrorists just like the zionists today speaks of the palestinians as terrorists. In fact if one would like to understand what happened in Algeria during the french colonial rule, one has to take a look at what is happening now in Palestine: Land robbery, Forced population displacement, Persecution, wanton killings, forced disappearance of persons, concentration camps, etc,.
    He would never refer to the napalm bombing of algerian villages and countryside. He would never refer to the forced exil of algerians to the faraway land of polynesia, etc..

    • Agree: brams, L.K, Iris
  339. buzzwar says:
    @Talha

    The algerians experienced spanish occupation for a short period of time in the eighteenth century before being expelled.

    • Replies: @Talha
  340. Talha says:
    @buzzwar

    short period of time

    This being key. I mean, if you know what happened when they took Oran, I’m not sure why an extended occupation by the Spanish would be seen as more benign. I do get your proposing that Algerians would see the French as the worst, I’m just of the opinion that they would have changed their mind had the Spanish been in charge over them given the same period.

    Peace.

  341. buzzwar says:
    @Matra

    The false narrative is what you are writing.

  342. buzzwar says:
    @Alden

    All actes of piracy must be condemned by all sovereign entities. However, in practice this is not the case. In the eyes of Europeans fighting for control of the seas, piracy, when practiced against the enemy, is not considered a crime. On the contrary, it is encouraged when it results in the capture of enemy property. So when the french bandits intended to close the pirate port of Algiers they should have closed their own pirate ports such as St Malo, Motlaix, Bayonne and many more. Actually, piracy was officially inscribed in the naval strategy of many european countries. Regarding the so called “pirate port of Algiers” let me remind you that the western countries including the USA had ambassadors appointed there for decades.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  343. Iris says:
    @Alden

    But remember, much of the treasure of Algeria cane not from honest farming production selling exporting and trade but from piracy of European ships and the labour and selling of European slaves.

    Thanks for your reply.

    Actually, the treasure of Algiers did come in most part from agricultural labour. Back in Ancient Times already, Algeria was the breadbasket of the Roman Empire. Its rich lands, large cattle and plentiful agricultural production are attested in geography studies. All other administrative regions of the country (Beyliks) paid taxes to the central Algiers Regency, which had itself stopped paying tribute to Constantinople.

    Algiers was extremely rich because the land was, and for this reason was able to supply grain and cereals to the French people after the Revolution, and to the French armies during the campaigns of Italy and of Egypt under Napoleon. This grain wasn’t paid for; this is how the debt owed by France to Algiers accrued and led to Fly Whisk incident.

    Jewish merchants were involved because, as one of them cynically put it, “Those making most money from wheat are those who transport it, not those who farm it”.

    In general, ever since King Francois 1st, France and the Algiers Regency had uninterrupted collaboration and many signed agreements. The town of Marseille, for instance, had the formal privilege to collect corals without never being bothered by the Regency ships. After a heavy bombing of Algiers in 1688, the Regency signed a treaty with King Louis XIV and renounced maritime attacks against French ships.

    The excuse of the Maritime Race as a cause for the colonisation of Algeria is largely fabricated; the Race had come to a halt by 1830.

  344. Robjil says:
    @buzzwar

    The wheat growing must have been in Berber areas behind the coast. This is a short version of the history of the Barbary States. The pirates states were Turkish run.

    http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=1503&HistoryID=ab26

    With the decline of the local Berber dynasties in the 15th and 16th centuries, the valuable coastal strip of north Africa (known because of the Berbers as the Barbary coast) attracts the attention of the two most powerful Mediterranean states of the time – Spain in the west, Turkey in the east.

    The Spanish-Turkish rivalry lasts for much of the 16th century, but it is gradually won – in a somewhat unorthodox manner – by the Turks. Their successful device is to allow Turkish pirates, or corsairs, to establish themselves along the coast. The territories seized by the corsairs are then given a formal status as protectorates of the Ottoman empire.

    The first such pirate establishes himself on the coast of Algeria in 1512. Two others are firmly based in Libya by 1551. Tunisia is briefly taken in 1534 by the most famous corsair of them all, Khair ed-Din (known to the Europeans as Barbarossa). Recovered for Spain in 1535, Tunisia is finally brought under Ottoman control in 1574.

    Piracy remains the chief purpose and main source of income of all these Turkish settlements along the Barbary coast. And the depredations of piracy, after three centuries, at last prompt French intervention in Algeria. This, at any rate, is stated by the French at the time to be the cause of their intervention. The reality is somewhat less glorious.

    Algiers is occupied by the French in 1830, but it is not until 1847 that the French conquest of Algeria is complete – after prolonged resistance from the Berber hinterland, which has never been effectively controlled by the Turks on the coast

    • Replies: @Iris
  345. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Though I might contest the numbers a bit; medieval estimates are often overblown.

    Ya that is true. Come to think of it history is or cannot be 100% accurate. We will never know 100% what really happened in the past. Only Allah (or God/Parmeshwar/ Ishwar) knows the true facts.

    Had the Mongols penetrated into the deeper recesses of India, those numbers you posted would have been nothing in comparison.

    Very likely. However the Mughals were themselves semi Mongols too. Mughal is the Persian word for Mongol and Baber though Uzbek had Mongol ancestors.

    Rest of your post I agree.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  346. Iris says:
    @Robjil

    Dear Robjil;

    The myth of the Algerian Berbers being “liberated” from the Ottoman occupier, who would then be on par with the French imperialists, is a historic piece of propaganda that was actually printed on leaflets taken with the French expedition that first occupied Algeria.

    In reality, and while the Ottomans indeed had an imperial ruling system that stood above the indigenopus Algerian society, their administration of Algeria was benevolent, with the locals complaining mostly of having to pay taxes.

    Furthermore, the Ottomans did not invade, but were actually invited by Algerian cities of Djidjelli, Bedjaia and Algiers to come over from Constantinople and protect North Africa from Spanish attacks. The real circumstances is that North Africa was in a defensive position:
    – The Spanish occupied the city of Oran in Western Algeria for two centuries (1509-1708).
    – In the 1540’s , they also cleverly occupied and built a fort on rocky islands just off the the coast of Algiers, from which they safely and continuously bombarded the city. It was called “El Penon“, the Thorn, and has become a famous military tactics, same as a fixed aircraft carrier.

    Old Algiers with the Spanish-built Peñon in the forefront:

    Finally, Algiers was almost destroyed by Charles V, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, who organised a vast maritime expedition in 1541, in which France did not take part because it was allied to the Ottomans. The Austrian-Spanish forces were vastly superior, but were destroyed by an unexpected and miraculous tempest.

    The Ottoman “occupation” more likely protected the indigenous population from a genocide; native Americans facing Spanish armies were not so lucky.
    The common religion of course played a role, as it fitted the concept of a common Muslim nation (Umma).

    This deliberate vassality and respect towards the Ottoman rule remained true till the end.
    The Algerian resistance leader Emir Abd El Kader called himself “Emir” (Prince) in recognition of his subordination to the Caliph of Constantinople, Caliph being the foremost ruler of Muslims. Best.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  347. Robjil says:
    @Iris

    Constantinople was a Greek city. That was a tragedy too.

    The Turks when took over Anatolia, they should have kept the Greek language at least.

    Greek culture would have continued on if they did.

    Native Americans survived with the Spanish.

    Most Latin American Spanish ruled nations have a large part of the population with Native ancestry or partly Native.

    This is not the case in British ruled Americas.

  348. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Levantine

    No Joe L.

    You make the grave, fatal White Western mistake of thinking in terms of the Nation State – which is pretty much only a Western European concept. The only majority Muslim state that ever went for One state nationalism was Turkey after World War I when the Ottoman Empire lost their non ethnic Turk positions in Arab, European places.

    Islam has nave been contained to single nations, Islam has always been spread by war, enslavement.

    The Muslims know Spain was invaded and occupied by Arab Muslim Moors for 700 years!

    There is a reason Sicilian Italians and too many Greeks look like hairy, swarthy Arabs. These areas were invaded and conquered by Arab Muslims and they f)’dklfd up the White gene pool.

    Yours is also the fatal way of thinking and acting that if we just leave Arabs, Turks, Pakistani Muslims alone in “their countries” they won t bother us in “our countries”.

    NOPE

    Not even close. Pakistani Muslims elected one of their own as mayor of London/Londonstan.

    Check out that White hating Somalian Congresswomen from Minnesota.

    Do you think she s going to voluntarily go back to Somalia and leave us alone?

    Not happening there mate.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  349. Talha says:
    @Malla

    Come to think of it history is or cannot be 100% accurate.

    Th late historian, Simon Digby (who has been described as “the foremost British scholar of pre-Mughal India”) mentioned that taking the numbers of medieval sources at face-value to derive conclusions leads to “garbage in, garbage out”. I’m not saying there were no massacres, there obviously were – the Muslim historians themselves record them – but the numbers are sometimes really exaggerated.

    However the Mughals were themselves semi Mongols too.

    That is certainly true, though they had chilled out a bit by the time Babur comes around. Again, not saying they didn’t commit some of their own massacres, but they didn’t hold a candle to their predecessors in that regard.

    Actually the most instructive of the examples to estimate what may have happened is to extrapolate from your own example of Tamerlane’s sack of Delhi. Tamerlane (though Muslim) was a bonafide Mongol warlord, and the military historian David Nicolle officially counts him among the major four canonical ones:

    India is fortunate that Tamerlane’s attention was drawn westward after Delhi and he concentrated on expanding to the West. One of the great massacres his men did there was in the sack of Damascus, there is a section of the city that is, to this day, remembered as “Burj ar-Ru’us” (Tower of the Heads)* where they piled up all the heads. And then going on to eventually defeat the Ottomans at the Battle of Ankara and capture the Ottoman Caliph, thereby throwing the entire empire into a bloody civil war of succession (and also saving the Europeans’ chestnuts from the fire – the Ottomans had just annihilated a combined Crusader force at Nicopolis a few years earlier and could have kept expanding).

    Peace.

    * Speaking of echos from history, I just found out that there is a good chance that the unique Afghan cap (the Pakol, one of which I own) may well be descended from the armies of Alexander:

    • Replies: @Malla
  350. @Iris

    Thank you Iris for this treasure trove of historic facts that sets the record straight about how the tribe is the real mastermind and the greatest beneficiary of colonialism. The same tribe was behind the Opium War in China and the 9/11 tragedy and the subsequent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with their White collaborators paying with their blood in return for a pittance.

    • Agree: Iris
  351. @Anonymous

    “Yours is also the fatal way of thinking and acting that if we just leave Arabs, Turks, Pakistani Muslims alone in “their countries” they won t bother us in “our countries”.

    I have no illusion about the Muslim’s expansionist streak which is quite obvious throughout their history of wars in the name of the “Ummah”. Yet, right from the beginning of the Islamic invasion of the Levant and the rest of the Middle East, their success against the Byzantines, the Egyptians and the Persians, was more a factor of lucky timing, having entered the fray after all those parties had exhausted each other with internecine warfare. Now, their biggest ally at overtaking the White nation states is the invisible enemy in White societies, namely political correctness, feminism and the “ divide et impera” that the tribe along with their lackeys of the moneyed elite are engaged in with devastating consequences for White societies.

    At the turn of the 19th century we still had virile countries like England, France and Germany with expanding populations and a sense of nationhood. Two world wars and relentless social engineering by the masters of discourse from Hollywood to the MSM has allowed the stealthy Muslim invasion of Europe to proceed. Yet, I would endorse a firm policy of national defense rather than colonial conquest with a revival of family values as the best policy to keep all potential enemies at bay. The greed and the looting that marked most colonialist ventures was for the benefit of the few rather than the many. Meanwhile, I state unequivocally my preference to conquest by free trade and a free exchange of education and ideas without resorting to gunboat diplomacy, and I would still bet that the White culture would end up with the upper hand as long as the West is free from the internal enemy.

  352. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Speaking of echos from history, I just found out that there is a good chance that the unique Afghan cap (the Pakol, one of which I own) may well be descended from the armies of Alexander:

    Thank you for this interesting bit of information. There are also theories that the Kalash are descendants of Greeco Macedonians.

    • Replies: @Talha
  353. Malla says:
    @Alden

    After a hiatus of about 150 years the Muslim invasion of Europe began again; instigated and led by European elites.

    ((European Elites)) indeed opening the gates of Europa.

    https://ia802702.us.archive.org/17/items/ThePlotAgainstTheChurch_192/PlotAgainstTheCurchComplete.pdf

    In Page 315, we read “Marcelino Menendez Pelayo, the renowned Spanish historian of the previous century, writes concerning the treachery of the Jews: “The indigenous population would have been able to show resistance to the handful of Arabs who crossed the Straits, but Witiza had disarmed them, levelled the towers to the ground and had the lances turned into harrows.”125 While the Visigoth kingdom disarmed under the influence of the Jewish advisors and friends of Witiza, dismantled its defence and destroyed its war power, the Jews encouraged the Musulmans to fall upon the Christian kingdom and to destroy it. Great preparations were made in North Africa for this. Into the land which the Jews wished to destroy they introduced pacifism, and into the land which should serve them as a tool to destroy the other, a warlike spirit. These classical tactics the Jews have applied in the course of centuries in different states and use them today with a perfection, in which they have attained experience in the course of centuries. ”

    So those they want to destroy they preach them pacifism (Whites told to accept a brown multicultural multiracial future, Cultural Marxism, Colonial Guilt, holohoax, Hippies, bleeding heart dumb Libtards, Swedes and Europeans in general told by their crypto kike elites “that they have no culture!!!”) and those they want to use as destroyers, they preach war (Wahabism, Sharia Patrol, Marxist hatred for Whites, Anti-Fa, Black & Hispanic gangs ). History repeating itself.

    • Replies: @suicidal_canadian
    , @Anon
  354. Talha says:
    @Malla

    Many of them certainly look like it.

    Peace.

  355. @Malla

    You missed one: black panthers. After the Ahmed Arboury shooting the black panthers were patrolling the neighborhood with masks and assault rifles. Imagine if a white group of men with masks and guns patrolled a Muslim neighborhood after a terror attack. The system is innately illegitimate because we are forced to tolerate obscene double standards.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @Anon
  356. Seraphim says:
    @buzzwar

    The first external war of the USA was against the ‘Barbary States’ (1801-1805) Tripoli, Algiers, Tunis, Morocco which were seizing American merchant ships and holding the crews for ransom, demanding the U.S. pay tribute to the Barbary rulers, although they were not at war with the USA. Although beaten, the pirates continued to arraign the American ships the very next year, which led to the Second Barbary War of 1815.

  357. RSDB says:
    @Malla

    Sri Lanka also covertly helped the LTTE a little bit against India during the occupation so we can call that even.

  358. @Malla

    Tamil Nadu openly supported the Tigers and killed an Indian president in Chennai.

    Sinhalese probably come from the same genetic roots as the Rohingya. They arrived from Bangladesh or Calcutta in the Bay of Bengal.

    I spent time in Chennai and they were fairly pro Tamil.

    At the bottom of it is the fact that South and North Iindia are different countries but what do I know.

    https://retrosploitation.vhx.tv/products/i-eat-your-skin

  359. Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @suicidal_canadian

    Lot of White men with guns in the Middle East.

  360. Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    White countries don’t teach anti-colonialism in the schools very much.

  361. Vaterland says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ron Unz

    Is Right

    About Colin Wright

  362. Many French I knew rued the courage of de Gaulle’s chauffeur and the handling of his Citroen in 1963: they would have preferred it turned out the other way because of his betrayal of the French in Algiers.

    I had a co-worker, born in the US in the mid-60s, to white French parents who escaped Algeria shortly before. He told me his father still had a large quantity of rifle targets he’d had printed up with the 10 ring between de Gaulle’s eyes. Since CDG was already dead the range officers disapproved but tolerated their use.

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