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Responding to my previous post on Jean-Luc Picard, commenter Divine Right has given us a very interesting and detailed essay on the degeneration of Star Trek. The destiny of the Star Trek and Star Wars franchises is instructive. Whatever one thinks, and beyond politics, there used to be some heart and even philosophical or mythical elements in these shows/films. Today, one has superb special effects and technical prowess, absolutely no substance, considerable vulgarity, and utterly empty melodrama and hyperemotionality over nothing. This is a good mirror to our civilization as a whole today.

My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old:

Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological – a man’s world, basically. In this world, religion plays practically no role in public life. Problems are solved with diplomacy instead of violence. Money doesn’t exist, so there is no capitalism, greed, or want. People spend their lives bettering humanity and doing other such noble things like negotiating peace with aliens or exploring the universe in one of Starfleet’s advanced starships, each equipped with a plethora of miraculous technologies. In their leisure time, the crews of these starships visit a holographic room, the holodeck, which can conjure any fantasy into a photorealistic facsimile of the real thing.

Probably the only place in the Western world where this mentality can still be found is California’s Silicon Valley. As in the fictional world of Star Trek, men do most of the work; they advance through meritocracy; and there is something akin to a fraternal culture, irrespective of the prevailing progressive ideology. Silicon Valley is also still largely free of the odious diversity requirements imposed on the rest of society.

That was also once true of Hollywood itself, and it showed in the television they produced — Star Trek, for example. That franchise, spanning hundreds of television hours and a number of theatrical releases, was mostly helmed by men who got their jobs through merit – actors, writers, ship designers, show runners. The main characters of each of the television series were also men. The Original Series (TOS) featured a lead triangle of male actors – Kelley, Shatner, and Nemoy. The sequel, The Next Generation (TNG), featured mostly male characters, certainly all the most popular ones. These characters often featured something educated men are interested in: the second officer is an android; the chief engineer has a technology-supplemented vision; the executive officer is a ladies man and a master strategist who plays games of skill underpinned by mathematical rules; the captain is a wise and cultured authority figure who reads Shakespeare; the security chief is a noble warrior from an alien species whose culture is based around rules of honor.

Spinoffs like Deep Space Nine (DS9) and Voyager were more diverse, but still roughly comported to what the male audience desired. DS9 featured a male captain, and the most popular characters were all men. Voyager had a female captain who mostly avoided gender politics outside of a few instances in the earlier seasons (written by a woman) – a rarity these days. In that show, one of the two most popular characters was a male and the other was a sexy Borg chick, Seven of Nine.

The high point of the franchise, The Next Generation, featured a mostly white liberal cast and various things white liberals liked at the time – sex appeal, food, pseudointellectualism (although handled capably by talented male writers), cutting edge tech, meritocracy, optimism, exploration, and the white man’s moralism.

Starfleet, the Federation’s military and scientific branch, was a rigorous meritocracy, just as Silicon Valley is today. Members were admitted only through a combination of senior officer recommendations, high scholastic achievement, and phenomenally high standardized test scores. Character was also paramount. Crew evaluations feature prominently in several episodes of TNG, and it was made clear to underperforming members that the starship Enterprise cuts a standard above the rest; perform or hit the road.

In the diverse world of Star Trek, the white writers imagined meritocracy would ensure whites like themselves would still have a position at the top of society (just as in Hollywood then and Silicon Valley now) despite soon becoming a minority in real life America. You’ll notice progressive humans are at the center of the Federation in Star Trek despite being a small minority in that fictional universe as well. That’s by design, conscious or not.

You can tell the creators desperately wanted to believe this sweet little lie about diverse societies. I’m sure they imagined their tolerance would be reciprocated when they were on the receiving end; we now know that’s not true, unfortunately. Remember, this was the generation that famously cheered President Bill Clinton’s college commencement speech where he lauded the idea of America soon becoming majority minority. The primarily white crowd roared in approval.

White Male Star Trek Alum Denied Directing Job on Discovery Because He’s . . . White Male

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In this imagined future, white liberals would still get to feel morally superior to contemporary white conservatives, just as they often strive to in today’s world. In TNG, this is accomplished through various means – cooperation with hostile aliens (demonstrating philosophical supremacy, superiority of intellect and temperament), bravery, tolerance of differences in others, multiculturalism (the show almost never celebrates an earth holiday like Christmas but often supports alien cultures, including breaking Starfleet’s rules of dress for aliens), standing up to corrupt superiors (usually white conservative caricatures).

In the TNG episode The Drumhead, Picard faces down a witch hunting admiral — a woman, no less. The plot revolves around an incident that occurred on the starship Enterprise. Sabotage is suspected, and the situation is tense. The initial evidence points to a low ranking crewman who is later discovered to be of mixed race, one-quarter of the Federation’s most feared enemy. This all but convicts him in the eyes of the admiral’s tribunal. The admiral mercilessly presses her case, threatening to destroy anyone who gets in her way. She’s meant to be a caricature of conservative jingoists of the era – always scared of the Russians, racist against minorities, emotional. In Hollywood’s view of history, those were the people behind the McCarthy hearings, which this episode obviously pulls from.

Aside: it could be said that American SJWs have gotten so extreme of late that the admiral in this episode could easily be mistaken for one of them, a point a few critics have already made. Over in the American comic book industry, prominent SJW social media figures have chased out conservatives or even publicly announced they’d black list anyone caught voting for Donald Trump. In Hollywood, actor James Woods has claimed (probably correctly) that he’s been blacklisted for his – rather mild – views. Other actors have gotten the message and have now shut their mouths: Clint Eastwood, who spoke at the 2012 republican convention, endorsed democrat Michael Bloomberg in this year’s 2020 Democratic Party primary … probably to avoid a similar blacklist.

Toward the end of the episode, Captain Picard confronts his antagonist and gives a fine speech about principle, temperament, and morality in the process. The admiral is defeated when a fellow admiral, a black male character, stands up and walks out in disgust at her actions.

This is one of the reasons why fans liked the character of Jean-Luc Picard: he was a decent, honorable man despite not being perfect himself. He had a code he lived by, and he led by example. Men like that sort of thing. Star Trek Picard, in contrast, portrays him as a bumbling moron who is always wrong and continually berated by female underlings. His view of the world is portrayed as naive or just wrong, requiring strong SJW women to take it to the enemy themselves, often employing violence – including rank murder and sadistic violence.

In another episode of TNG, white male commander Riker stands up to his white male superior — an admiral — who wishes to break the terms of a peace treaty to gain a military edge over a mortal enemy. Riker prevents him from doing so and exposes the dastardly plot. Moral of the story: principle trumps Machiavellianism.

Star Trek was very much a pre-Millennial liberal morality play whereby inspired characters (mostly white) would often stand up to authority figures (mostly white) in order to promote a general moral code — a greater authority — among fellow whites.

Consider some of the following things about Star Trek: The Next Generation and ask yourself if any of this would be allowed on television today without controversy.

  • There is a planet where men and women wear skimpy clothing and have casual sex whenever they choose (or so it is implied). The women are all very attractive and lightly dressed.
  • The female characters are free to wear revealing clothing if they so desire (or not), even on the bridge of a powerful starship. This was also a feature of the original series (TOS) – premiere date: September 1966. Series creator Gene Roddenberry imagined it to be a rebuke of the more culturally conservative era of his time. Later in the early seasons of TNG, when Roddenberry still exercised influence, even the men wore skirts.
  • Implied heterosexual attraction is present – Riker and Troi, Picard and Crusher; this is true of the spin-offs as well. The male characters all have numerous romances throughout the show’s run. Even the android, Data, has a romantic encounter with a woman.
  • The black characters are portrayed as white people with dark skin, for the most part. Michael Dorn, Worf, is a proud Klingon warrior; he’s a noble character the audience looks up to for his courage and good sense (even if the writers comically ignored him). Whoopi Goldberg, Guinan, is the show’s Delphic Oracle; she gives advice even to the wise Jean-Luc Picard. Levar Burton, Geordi, is the ship’s chief engineer. He’s a black male nerd who has trouble dating girls but is otherwise a genius.
  • Basically, TNG was what white male liberals of the time hoped the future would be. “Threatening” minority characters would act safe and white, technology would trump superstition, and reason would prevail over emotionalism. The future would be a paradise where all problems had been solved and white men would still have a place at the table they created – it being governed by the same rules they originally put into place.

Consider some of what we saw in the spin-offs – DS9, Enterprise, and Voyager – and ask the same thing.

  • In DS9, the black male captain Sisko feels uneasy about entering a holodeck program featuring a stylized 1960s Las Vegas casino. His reasoning: black people were discriminated against during that time period, so it’s unrealistic and even offensive to go there. It’s important for him to do this in order to save a friend, so his black girlfriend explains to him that his criticism is not relevant because racism doesn’t exist anymore; it’s the far future, after all. Sisko agrees and overcomes his objection in order to do the right thing.
  • In one of the early episodes, captain Sisko puts his female executive officer in her place after she goes outside the chain of command to criticize him.
  • Captain Sisko (Avery Brooks) is the wise leader who exudes bravery, honor, and integrity. He puts other people in their place when they step out of line, and he’s NEVER disrespected by underlings, including women, without severe consequence.
  • Some of the attractive female characters still wear form-fitting suits. All the principal female cast members are attractive. The same is true of Voyager, most famously represented with Seven of Nine.
  • Quark, the alien bartender, is a sexist who steals his employees’ tips and requires women to dress seductively in order to scam male customers at the gambling table. He expresses outrage when his mother starts dressing in clothes, which is forbidden for the house-ridden, oppressed Ferengi female demographic. There is also an episode where he tries to take a picture of the female executive officer in order to make a real-life sex object based on her likeness for a customer. The Ferengi are also obsessed with accumulating wealth and often scam people out of their money.

Despite all of that, Quark is often a moral character (sold medicine and blankets to sick aliens during a war). There is an episode where he points out that Ferengi at their worst aren’t as bad as humans have been in recent memory – no genocides or slavery or concentration camps. Quark is supposed to represent much that is wrong with the contemporary world. He is also representative of the writers’ moral relativism – bad guy isn’t all that bad depending on perspective. But even that reasoning probably wouldn’t allow such a character to exist in modern Star Trek.

  • In DS9, the Bajorans turn away poor immigrants who wish to settle on their planet. Their reasoning: Bajor is poor and can’t support them; they have their own problems to worry about.
  • The Ferengi, Nog, needs a recommendation from a senior officer and phenomenal test scores just to be considered for entry into Starfleet academy. No affirmative action at all.
  • The Cardassian antagonists have segregated their society along gender lines – men serve in the military and women serve as scientists. Female Cardassians think male Cardassians are bad at math and male Cardassians think female Cardassians are emotionally weak, so they are mostly excluded from the military leadership. The few female Cardassians who appear in the earlier seasons are mostly evil – a cruel judge and an intelligence official in the Obsidian Order (KGB equivalent). Dukat, the Cardassian male military officer, is once pitted against his female Obsidian Order boss and turns out to be the more compromising of the two characters before the end.
  • In DS9, multiculturalism can sometimes have a dark side: the diverse, authoritarian, Dominion wages war against the diverse, but cooperative, Federation.
  • There are lots of romantic relationships among friends and not as much of the Millennial hookup culture trash seen in the modern Star Trek iterations.
  • The male characters are often the center of attention – leaders, philosophers, diplomats, family men, scientists, doctors, comic relief.
  • Klingon females aren’t allowed to run family estates.
  • The planet where people dress skimpily still exists.
  • Several alien races are played exclusively or predominately by white actors with little make-up.

But as America’s demographics have changed, so too has the ethos of the Star Trek franchise. Starting with Enterprise (2001 – 2005), the former paragon of stoicism, the Vulcans, are continually denigrated – treated as paternalistic, deceptive, and even belligerent towards other alien races. Notably, Vulcans are more intelligent, more accomplished, and much stronger physically than humans; they are a paragon (sometimes a foil) of what pre-Millennial humanist white males imagined themselves to be … or hoped to be in the far future. Their treatment is odd. It’s almost as if the new – feminist – writers now feel they have to use the Vulcans as stand-ins for the white males they envy.

The new shows by Alex Kurtzman, Discovery and Picard, are helmed by a diverse set of writers decidedly unlike the target audience of straight white males. They’ve predictably produced shows denigrating that demographic: the lead characters are usually female; the male characters are continually insulted by wiser female underlings (Pike, Picard); many of the former straight characters are now gay (Picard, Data, Seven of Nine); aliens which were previously played exclusively – or nearly so – by white actors are now bizarrely multicultural in skin tone, just like humans. Can’t have too many whites on screen, I guess.

The female lead of Discovery is the bestest ever, she even appropriated the male name “Michael”.

The diverse new cast of Discovery and Picard mostly excludes white males. The only principle white men who did not appear in make-up during Discovery’s first season were either villains or openly gay. The show’s lead is a black woman who’s the best at everything, acts bizarrely hostile towards the crew and later berates the male commanding officer, captain Pike – introduced in season 2. There’s also an assortment of other female archetypes more typically seen in network television crime dramas – the dorky female comic relief, the bestest ever leader, the tech guru.

Star Trek: Picard’s white male actors, aside from TNG cameos, are mostly villains when they appear at all. Picard himself is a senile old man who contributes essentially nothing to the show. He is used as the butt of criticism from the cast. It’s clear the writers are using him as a canvas to paint their grievances with the real world. Picard — white male America — stands in the new boss’s empowered way. He lives in luxury as minority characters live in poverty. The (white) institutions he represents are all corrupt and racist. To rectify this injustice, the diverse cast must defy Star Trek convention – up to and including committing acts of cold-blooded murder (even villains don’t deserve that).

The new shows also – bizarrely — feature a dearth of straight black male actors. TNG had two; Voyager had one; DS9 had several, including a masculine male captain. The feminists who write this newer junk must feel threatened by their masculinity, a common phenomenon in modern Hollywood movies, comic books, and in network television: black men are usually removed (Star Trek), made gay (Marvel’s New Warriors), or turned into female servants (Samuel L. Jackson in Captain Marvel – a pet to Brie Larson). So, they’ve almost entirely been excised as primary leads in the new shows. The mostly unaccomplished female writers of Discovery even reported the more accomplished (read: threatening) black male writer, Walter Mosley, to Human Resources for uttering a racial epithet (in context with writing about racism), causing him to quit the show in disgust.

Author Walter Mosley Quits ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ After Using N-Word in Writers Room

Discovery and Picard are both written by a crowd that obviously hates the demographic they are writing for, so they pepper many of the episodes with things they know that demographic will take as insults – female characters insulting male characters, underhanded jokes about masculinity or mansplaining, obnoxious female leads, incompetent white male characters who need female instruction, excessive melodrama, denigration of lore. It’s patently obvious. They aren’t even being subtle about it.

The Klingons, once a proud masculine race, are now reduced to xenophobic Trump voters in Discovery. The show runner directly stated this in an interview before the series premiere. Klingons now speak in subhuman, guttural-sounding vocals. They redesigned them to look like hairless Tolkienesque goblins – hideous primitives. Klingons were previously boastful, proud in speech and in manner … threatening black men, basically. Feminist writers can’t have that. Bye.

Fundamentally, these new shows struggle because they are written by people wholly unlike the target audience, so they are not able to appeal to them (the same is true of other ruined male franchises like Star Wars – but I’ll save that for another time). These new shows aren’t for the old audience. The new — diverse — show runners have made that clear. Star Trek now serves as a vehicle for airing out racial and gender grievances against the perceived white male audience. It’s akin to planting your tribe’s flag on another tribe’s territory. The aggrieved gets a rush from being able to rub their enemy’s face in their loss. It’s intentional.

Women are very cognizant of the fact that they’re in charge now.

The Women Of ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Say The Female Future Is Here

Regardless, the primary audience for a show like this is heterosexual men, disproportionately white … And when minority male characters appear, they’re not supposed to be losers upstaged by their sassy, disrespectful and arrogant female subordinates. In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the black male captain put his hothead female executive officer in her place more than once. In the new Treks, men are continually insulted, often for no good reason, by female crew members.

What do men like in Star Trek?

Men like technology. So, the writers of Picard introduced a magic wand to the newest iteration.

Men like adventure, not melodrama. So, obviously the female writers feature an inordinate number of episodes of characters crying.

Most of the adventure element prominent in previous shows is absent or poorly constructed in the newer ones … or ripped off from other properties, including video games. Paramount was being sued a while back for copyright infringement.

Men like friendships, not … what the writers did to Jean-Luc Picard and Data at the end of Star Trek: Picard. The season finale of the new show ends with Picard confessing his amorous affection for Data, the male android – totally out of character. The writers thought they were being subtle, but it’s clear what they meant. It’s an implied gay relationship between the two most popular male characters in TNG, two characters that were never really that close to begin with. It was meant as a deliberate insult to the audience.

Note: This is supported by 1. writer Michael Chabon giving an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, I believe, where he was asked if there was something he wanted to do with the season 1 finale that he didn’t end up doing. He hinted that there was (my guess: a direct gay relationship with Picard and Data) by attacking “anti-SJWs” and “toxic fans” 2. Repeated gay scenes with the formerly male favorite Seven of Nine – implied relationship with a woman she killed and a completely unexplained hand holding scene with a female crew member 3. There is a clear affection beyond friendship between Picard and Data as he tells him that he loves him … or did before he died, something he always wanted to tell him. 4. Patrick Stewart bragged about how they did something special with the ending here.

Men like relationships with women, so that’s almost totally ignored – even the subtle implication of male / female attraction; there is some casual sex between characters we hate, but few meaningful or traditional relationships in the newer shows. The female characters in nuTrek are now also disproportionately lesbians (literally – no exaggeration intended), closing off that male fantasy for the audience. For example, the once sexy Seven of Nine is now also a lesbian. I’m sure that was deliberate. The rest of the women are physically unattractive, emotionally disturbed, or otherwise weird.

Seven of Nine as she appeared in Voyager

Men also like ship design, which was a major component of the old shows. They provided countless hours of free fan promotion across message boards and websites, they were cool locations for new episodes, and they inspired fan movies. So, obviously that had to be sidelined in the new shows. The ships, once iconic and profitable selling toy items, are now generic CGI models – totally uninspired trash hastily put together as an afterthought. The new shows can’t sell the merchandise, so the retailers have refused to license much of it.

Another thing men like? Group service – following rules, meritocracy, sacrifice for the tribe, defending territory (even the non-violent philosophical variety), that kind of thing. Well, that’s almost totally absent in Discovery and Picard. The once-honorable and meritocratic military-like Federation is portrayed as corrupt and unequal; the black female lead of Picard berates Jean-Luc in one episode for living “in his fine chateau” while she lived in poverty – again, a totally antithetical concept to the old shows.

The whole Federation is a dystopia with criminals and drugs and injustice all about.
Various Federation admirals in the new movies and television shows are belligerent, short-sighted, and rude; one is an outright war criminal. TNG featured at least two episodes with corrupt Federation admirals, but our show’s male heroes put them in their place by the end of the episode. Even the female captain Kathryn Janeway did this once in Voyager. Not true of these newer shows, though. Admirals berate the male characters, then go away – never to be redeemed or brought to justice.

Many of the characters in the new shows act entirely unprofessional towards each other. They are sometimes even cruel or sadistic. The female captain of one Discovery short Trek allowed a bumbling white male crewman (whom the female writers mocked the entire episode) to die horribly and then simply shrugged it off when asked about it, “he was an idiot” (implication: he deserved to die because he was annoying her). I’m guessing this occurs in the new shows because women don’t generally like things such as military service. Sure, women serve in the armed forces, but that’s just a gig for a lot of girls. Tactics, uniforms, codes of behavior, and group work are all things men sit around and think about when they aren’t being paid to do it.

Sadism is a new feature of these shows, too.

Not surprisingly, the biggest internet critic of these two incarnations is an Israeli Jew (I suspect); he compiled many of the clips above. It’s not hard to understand why. Israel is a masculine country that requires compulsory military service, is based around codes of principle (Jewish heritage), is partly multicultural (maybe 20% of the population isn’t Jewish), is group-oriented, and has a high percentage of intellectual figures. These are all things you might vaguely see in Star Trek’s The Federation, especially in The Next Generation.

The biggest supporters of these new incarnations, not surprisingly, are the show’s American writers – along with a few “critics”. These people lack any loyalty to a higher cause (other than themselves), are nihilistic, are sadistic, enjoy berating “the other” (men, whites, themselves even), and have practically no respect for anything they aren’t personally invested with. In other words, they are thoroughly Americanized losers.

There would be a college thesis in that observation if we lived in a better timeline. In this one, the world where the bad guys won, you are stuck reading it in a random internet comment.

I think that observation explains much of what is wrong with modern culture: the past, in many ways, was better than the present and probably will end up being better than the near future. That’s intolerable to a lot of political extremists, the very people who put us in this position in the first place. So, the past has to be destroyed; it serves as a foil to the current reigning madness. “Let the past die, kill it if you have to.” That’s why pop culture had to be denigrated. That’s why Star Trek is trash nowadays.

When conquering armies of the ancient world subdued an enemy, they often defaced the conquered tribe’s symbols – destroyed the statues, burned the temples, desecrated anything sacred; both Muslim and Christian conquerors were famous for this. Same thing here. The new regime is burning the cultural bridges so you can’t go back to the better world left behind, the one not ruled by them.

Although, in fairness to the ladies, it’s mostly men like Alex Kurtzman who have ruined the new shows. The guy once stated in an interview that he has a problem writing male characters. Hollywood: let’s hire that guy for Star Trek!

 
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  1. Star Crap was always shi*.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @gay troll
  2. Nice, until you slipped in that “Israel es muy macho” hasbara stuff at the end, which of course was the whole point. Clever.

    Meanwhile, as usual, the Israeli press can speak the truth:

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/

  3. anarchyst says:

    I don’t know how the characterization of the Ferengi got past the jewish Hollywood censors.
    Ferengi are typical jews, lock stock and barrel.

    Their worship of physical acquisitions, always chasing after money, looking to screw a “goy” (non-Ferengi) out of money or possessions is paramount in Ferengi culture.

    It would appear that fantasy Hollywood series such as Star Trek mirrors real life.

    Jews (Ferengi) be jewin’ (Ferengi-ing)
    lol

    • Agree: Che Guava
  4. Mr. Grey says:

    From what I’ve noticed in the past few years, white males in any prominent role must follow the 3-C rule. The must be either Crippled (emotionally or physically), a Coward, or a Criminal.

    • Replies: @endthefed
    , @Black Picard
  5. Lurker says:

    The only principle white men who did not appear in make-up during Discovery’s first season were either villains or openly gay

    The future for white males in visual media – criminals, rapists, psychopaths, slave owners. Or beta male weaklings, gay, disabled.

    • Replies: @trickster
  6. Lurker says:
    @anarchyst

    Given the usual representation among the creatives one assumes they were happy with the obvious parallels.

  7. Svevlad says:

    Simple solution: global anti-cringe agency

    those who are identified as being responsible for the production of cringe will get a fine that’s the amount of the money the product lost due to cringe, multiplied by global debt

    Make it hereditary

    There, you get a subhuman caste of people who are predisposed to being retards, kill em off or keep em as eternal cattle

    • LOL: Pheasant
  8. endthefed says:
    @Mr. Grey

    The marvel universe is falling into the same trap. Capt. Marvel has one weakness; she just doesn’t have enough time to fix everything. She could have showed up at the beginning of end game and it could have be…. well… end game.

    Go Dr. Strange and GOTG.

  9. “Starfleet, the Federation’s military and scientific branch, was a rigorous meritocracy, just as Silicon Valley is today.”

    Entertaining article, but the writer is out of date on Silicon Valley. Having conducted many interviews, and having seen the results of hiring committees chewing through feedback, Silicon Valley companies are quota-hiring. Mediocre females with 2 stars out of 5 were not uncommon as hires, while males with much better track records were passed over. A black, transexual Muslim would be the ultimate interview ringer these days.

    • Replies: @anon
  10. fish says:

    Silicon Valley is also still largely free of the odious diversity requirements imposed on the rest of society.

    You don’t get out much do you?

  11. fish says:

    Toward the end of the episode, Captain Picard confronts his antagonist and gives a fine speech about principle, temperament, and morality in the process. The admiral is defeated when a fellow admiral, a black male character, stands up and walks out in disgust at her actions.

    ….and that was a fine piece of acting! It looked like he’d been sent out to fetch the car!

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  12. fish says:

    I think during these difficult times and with respect to this unpleasant topic we can always rely on the wisdom of Iowahawk!

    If this is the new Star Trek…..let it burn!

  13. Patrick Stewart is obviously gay anyhow. He’s a British theater actor, how could he not be gay?

    Acting gay fits him. His gay scene is totally convincing.

    Shatner and Nimoy had seemed like straight men of their time.

    Shatner was the Alpha dog man’s man you might have a few beers with. He has a bluff macho persona.

    Nimoy was the no-nonsense cerebral type you could have a conversation with about alien life or sasquatch (I grew up with In Search Of so I remember him from that TV series).

  14. Just last night saw the episode of TOS that had tv’s first interracial kiss. They were forced into it pretty awkwardly by these telekinetic demigod types. Seconds later Kirk grabs a whip and is literally whipping her. They don’t make tv like that anymore!

  15. A123 says:

    DS9 was the best of the modern shows:

    — Captain Sisko was conflicted about being a religious figure, The Emissary.
    — Major Kira as first officer is answerable to a Starfleet Captain, yet a loyal Bajoran
    — Lt. Dax had conflicts between her current and prior personalities. And, a lengthy past that was available for story material.

    — Bajor had huge problems recovering from occupation including conflicts within their religious hierarchy. Kai Winn was a very flawed leader and useful story antagonist.
    — The Ferengi made money & crime available as story options.
    — The arrival of The Dominion forced Sisko into actions that were highly questionable, such as getting the Romulans to join the war. Possibly the best episode of DS9. (1)

    I have watched little Discovery and no Picard. Clearly, I am part of the non-SJW fan base that has been ejected from the franchise.

    If you like classic Star Trek, and have not watched Babylon 5. It is much better than the current shows in terms of story, although the viz effects are rather dated.
    .

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    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/In_the_Pale_Moonlight_(episode)

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    , @Jedi Night
    , @68W58
  16. Okay, maybe one of you Star Trek fans can help me on something: in the Dave Cullen clip, he says that the new depiction of Sarek is inconsistent and out-of-character with his depiction in earlier series, because he appears to be very involved in the life of a human character, like she’s his daughter or something, whereas before he was not that involved with his son Spock, apparently from disappointment that Spock was half human. But here’s what I don’t get: Sarek married a human (the lady from “Father Knows Best” in TOS), so how could he be disappointed in half-human offspring? What did he expect? If he wanted fully Vulcan kids, why didn’t he marry a Vulcan?

    • Replies: @A123
  17. IvyMike says:

    What in the wide wide world of sports is going on here? Someone invested enough precious time to watch enough Star Trek to write this article? The only thing we learn from Star Trek and almost all other Sci Fi TV and film is that the writers don’t have an effing clue about physics and space travel.

  18. A123 says:
    @Sir Isaac Newton

    Sarek wanted his son to join the Vulcan Science Academy. (1)

    As Kirk conducts a tour of the ship for the ambassador and his wife, he seeks out the roots of estrangement between Spock and his parents once they pass by Spock in Engineering. The rift seemingly sprang from Spock’s election to attend Starfleet Academy over his fathers’ choice of the Vulcan Science Academy as Sarek followed his father’s teachings. Kirk voices support of Spock’s choices and notes that he has a personal friendship with Spock to his mother Amanda, who appreciates the sentiment but also warns that the estrangement between father and son may be permanent, since it has been 18 years.

    I do not fully understand the Cullen reference to, “disappointment that Spock was half human“. Although it could be a reference to the Animated Series, where Sarek comments on Spock as a child. (2)

    However — The underlying argument still holds up. If Sarek is unwilling to support a family member in Starfleet, it makes no sense that Sarek would support a non-family member in Starfleet.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Journey_to_Babel_(episode)

    (2) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Yesteryear_(episode)

  19. Tusk says:

    I would love to hear Divine Right’s, or anyone elses, take on The Orville which felt like “true” Star Trek in a sense when I watched it. It is more modern (diverse cast, genius black guy+dumb white guy, black female dr, interspecies relationships) but it wasn’t complete garbage and disrespectful to the whole premise. Some of the episodes were a little forced in their philosophical dilemmas but nontheless it was certainly better than Picard.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  20. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Good points. Israel is a parasite which the author sees as “masculinity” for some inexplicable reason.

    • Agree: neutral
    • Replies: @Wally
  21. Its interesting how this writer pinpoints that its not a cavalcade of SJW nonsense, but specifically anti-male, anti-masculine SJW wokeness. Quite perceptive.

    We saw that also in the Star Wars sequels. There, even the black male is shown to be bumbling and incompetent next to Mar-REY Sue and the Asian Shrek chick he’s paired up with in the second one. Here, in Star Trek wokeness, we see fewer black males acting in strong traditional male roles.

    Contrast that with TNG’s clear diversity hires back in the 80s/90s. Worf was a perfect 90’s diversity hire at first back in the TNG days, but became a real character who really endeared himself to fans and the franchise. Michael Dorn should be commended for that, as should LeVar Burton, who kept Geordi LaForge as the nerdy, introverted engineer rather than make him some stereotype of blackness.

    This crap today is what happens when homosexuals and fatherless, emasculated men are allowed to be out, proud, and flourish. Hating their absentee fathers/abusive men in their childhood, and completely alienated from actual healthy masculinity, they and the manhating, fatherless feminist allies they hire (its still the men running things for the most part) cannot help but to bitterly take the boys’ toys and ruin them by putting them in a tea party, playing house with them, and insulting them.

    Sad and pathetic. Natural law violated, people are repelled, yet SJWs can’t understand why!

  22. songbird says:
    @A123

    It is remarkable how Straczynski zeroed in on the number 6 million for his Narnocaust.

    • Replies: @A123
  23. Kylo Ren : Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.

    stop paying to watch your humiliation….do you believe the contempt and disgust poured out upon you, the male characters, and the audience is accidental?….the b*tching makes ya’all look even weaker….real men do not whine or bellyache or complain….the usual suspects killed your beloved star trek….why do you accept it so passively mister meritocracy?

    • Agree: Gleimhart Mantooso
    • Replies: @Hilaire Belloc
  24. If you think Silicon Valley is “meritocratic” whatever that means, then you’ve never been to Silicon Valley. In fact, speaking of Silicon Valley and meritocracy and entertainment, watch Silicon Valley. An authentic (they insist it’s not because it so much is) depiction of Silicon Valley. “Meritocratic” Silicon Valley.

  25. @A123

    I’m giving DS9 a try right now. I agree with you, I really like it so far. Brings back a bit of the raw passion of TOS.

    I’m less of a fan of TNG and Voyager. I find them enjoyable but a bit too intellectual.

    Heroes and Icons free digital channel has a star trek marathon every night.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
  26. I don’t see the writer’s point. Is he complaining about his favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?
    There was a time Whites would just shake their head at the ‘queers’ and wander off. When did we become emotionally invested in the recorded capers of homosexuals? I mean, everyone here is aware that Hollywood and all its agencies, like Pornhub, are continuing the good work of the catholic church: Destroying all cultures, and replace it with… they spell their own god’s name G-D. Whatever you think that stands for, you are wrong, otherwise they would have said it already, via their New Testament, also known as The Media.
    On the other hand, most of us can’t even keep the OxyContin out of the kids’ reach, who’s gong to keep them away from those “programs” on teevee?
    If you want to stop the programming of the next generation, I strongly suggest getting rid of those “programs’ programming them to act like preprogrammed programs with Artificial Intelligence.
    Look for a wire leading from the TV to a hole in the wall. Destroy that wire. Your television will now only show those shows made with absolutely no globalist agenda, and only those of good taste.

    • Replies: @anon
  27. @A123

    So, a123, there is actually a topic you can be coherent on? Whoa! Stop the presses!
    If ever I think the world can be saved by remembering the dialogue from television, I know who to contact.

  28. @IvyMike

    Star Trek, the original series, was sold to the network as “Wagon Train in Space,” so the actual physics of space travel were never the point. The “transporter” was the most unrealistic of all of the devices on the Enterprise, but as a dramatic device it was hard to beat–characters could change scenes instantly!

    • Replies: @A123
    , @JackOH
  29. They know that can squeeze a few more bucks out of the white male nerds before even they throw in the Trekkie towel, so why not have fun making it DIE slowly?

  30. Realist says:
    @anarchyst

    I don’t know how the characterization of the Ferengi got past the jewish Hollywood censors.

    Okay, but how do you account for the humongous ears?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Memehunter
  31. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    I recall Spock defending what John Gill had apparently sought to do.

    McCoy clarified his at times unscientific manner by saying that he’s a country doctor.

  32. anarchyst says:
    @Realist

    ((They)) couldn’t get everything right. Instead of the typical jewish “hook nose” they settled for humongous ears. lol

    • Replies: @Realist
  33. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    >Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological

    How did you managed to misspell “jews” as “liberal American white males”?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  34. A123 says:
    @songbird

    It is remarkable how Straczynski zeroed in on the number 6 million for his Narnocaust.

    Did he? What episode? I remember millions, but not specifically 6.

    It is also worth nothing that the Narns follow the Prophet G’Quon and his Holy Book that cannot be changed. Remarkably like a very different myth.

    JMS took pieces of history and then mixed them so each faction was grounded in realism. However, the mixing prevents them from being directly aligned to a single current day Earth faction.

    If you were unaware, JMS is openly Athiest. He has no ties to any specific religion. No agenda is being pushed, unless you are looking for ‘Acceptance of Atheism’.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @songbird
  35. @Anonymous

    Because they were not the only Yuppies of the eighties.

    Far from it.

    WASPS have declined in economic terms in the last 20 years.

  36. A123 says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    The “transporter” was the most unrealistic of all of the devices on the Enterprise, but as a dramatic device it was hard to beat.

    The transporter was a double edged sword for the writers. It solved some problems, but created new ones.

    How do you keep the heroes in danger instead of whisking them back up to the Enterprise?

    Every episode with a low-tech enemy on a planet needed an excuse to prevent the transporter from being the easy solution.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @aandrews
  37. @anarchyst

    A lot of terms Star Trek writers invented but ‘ferengi’ is a real word. It’s Ethiopian and is used to describe white foreigners. It is thought the word is a derivation of ‘Frank.’

    • Replies: @Lothric
  38. anon[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Nimoy was the no-nonsense cerebral type you could have a conversation with about alien life or sasquatch (I grew up with In Search Of so I remember him from that TV series

    In search of was one of these stupid unsolved mysteries shows that Nimoy had to accept after being typecast as Spock. Before Star Trek, Nimoy had a distinguished career as a character actor playing in everything from the spy comedy Get Smart to Wagon train. You are probably way too young too remember.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @fish
  39. @anon

    I was born in 1974. I was too young for Star Trek.

    I was raised on TJ Hooker and In Search Of. I always remember Shatner as deliciously hammy in the former and Nimoy as his gruff and taciturn in the latter.

    Takei seemed to stand out because he despised Shatner and also Neville Brand from Twilight Zone. Brand, however, was sort of a maniac. But even though Brand was short and ugly and crazy…you found him charismatic.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Stan Adams
  40. songbird says:
    @A123

    The 5 in the “5 or 6 million” Narn killed is meant to be a bit of camouflage. It is really weird when you get to thinking about how it was the Narn homeworld they were talking about, and only 5 or 6 million were killed on a planetary scale. It doesn’t make sense.

    I’m not saying that the Narn are meant to be a perfect analogue to Jews, I don’t think that would remotely work from a Jewish perspective, as IIRC, they were not destined to evolve into energy beings before the end of the galaxy or something. But Straczynski certainly did have a lot of progressive ideas on display, even though his show wasn’t as utopian. I really think it was more progressive than Star Trek, at least at that time. Another example of this would be the trans-speciation of the alien Delenn, allowing her to become human.

    Straczynski seems to have been highly influenced by Jewish culture. It is an interesting question whether that is something he picked up in Hollywood – perhaps to gain success, just as Jordan Peele is involved in that Hunters show about hunting Nazis – or whether it might be some strange legacy from him being ethnically Polish and his family having carried over the Jewish culture from Jewish influence in Poland, before WWII. Or perhaps, he is just a prog and it is as simple as that.

    Honestly, I find serials distasteful because inevitably you get the bad mixed in with the good, whereas with an episodic show (right terminology?) you can merely disregard the episodes with progressive messages or the ones that are just low quality. I also don’t think one man can handle writing a whole show. Rod Serling was pretty talented, but it is obvious that he burnt out quickly on the Twilight Zone. Straczynski was said to have lost his notes or something, and they might have cut his budget too.

    • Replies: @A123
  41. SFG says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    It’s entirely possible for Israel to be relatively masculine, given that they have to fight wars, and for American Jews to be unmasculine, given that they don’t.

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    , @paranoid goy
  42. @A123

    I do not fully understand the Cullen reference to, “disappointment that Spock was half human“

    The deepest repressed emotional pain in Spock’s life is the fact that his father beheld him at his birth and pronounced him “so human,” i.e. not sufficiently Vulcan. This is canonical. It forms part of a crucial moment in the plot of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

    • Replies: @A123
  43. fish says:
    @anon

    Before Star Trek, Nimoy had a distinguished career as a character actor playing in everything from the spy comedy Get Smart to Wagon train. You are probably way too young too remember.

    Regrettably I’m not “way too young to remember”…..and I remember Nimoy having an uncredited bit part in the best of the giant radioactive bug movies from the 50’s….“Them”.

  44. A123 says:
    @songbird

    Very few shows have one writer for everything. B5 was quite unique having JMS write effectively all of Seasons 2-4. It allowed the show to work as a giant epic rather than purely episodes.

    Straczynski was said to have lost his notes or something, and they might have cut his budget too

    The show was effectively cancelled at the end of Season 4, so JMS had wrapped the big story. Season 5 was approved late, short on material, and on a much lower budget (Cable vs. Syndication). There were a number of dodgy episodes in Seasons 1 & 5.

    Or perhaps, he is just a prog and it is as simple as that.

    I think it is as simple as that. He is very much a pro-Unionist. Working in Hollywood leads to left leaning compliance. JMS went way out on a limb back Trumbo who is one of the few true criminals called out by McCarthy.

    Prog would be fair. Hollywood is its own creed.

    trans-speciation of the alien Delenn, allowing her to become human.

    As we find out later in the run this change was a one-off to counter balance another event. It may have looked Prog when first seen, but it did not ultimately lead to that end. To avoid spoilers for prospective viewers, I do not want to be too explicit on this point.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  45. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Brand liked to drink, and was an alpha male. Takei is gay as f…k. So, we can understand that they could not get along. Takei and Shatner? Again obvious. In Search Of did a great job of taking some silly and not so silly stories and having Leonard make them interesting. An underrated show. He was a prolific character actor, as noted by a curmudgeon, but having his own show, however limited in budget allowed him to present a cerebral challenge to his audience. Having seen him in plenty of second rate westerns as a ‘blink and miss him’ character, have to say that In Search Of was a better display of his talents. If only they had a decent budget….

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  46. @anon

    Funny, Brand was a smallish man but he was intimidating.

    He seemed fearless and crazy.

  47. A123 says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The deepest repressed emotional pain in Spock’s life is the fact that his father beheld him at his birth and pronounced him “so human,” i.e. not sufficiently Vulcan.

    One understands why the movie needed the moment…. However, how could Spock know this before entering the barrier and this have long held pain from it? He never had a mind meld with his father. (1)

    Picard and Spock discuss their gently adversarial relationship, Spock comments that Picard may know Sarek “better than his own son did. My father and I never chose to meld.” On hearing this, Picard says, “I offer you the chance to touch what he [Sarek] shared with me.” As Data watches, Spock places his hand on Picard’s face and makes contact with the essence of Sarek that remains in Picard’s mind, and Picard thus fulfills the request that Sarek made:

    Even if he picked up the memory by mind melding with someone else — It would be from an unemotional Vulcan or joyous mother Amanda. It could be something he imagined and internalized, but that seems rather out of character for Spock.
    _____

    Among the problems with a huge amount of Canon history is that sources become contradictory. Fortunately, for purposes of this discussion the distinction is not terribly relevant. No Canon interpretation seems to work.

    Based on the available background it seems highly unlikely that Sarek would support a human Starfleet officer and not his own son in a similar role. I have to go with highly unlikely rather than certain, because there could be a story lurking:

    — Among humans it would be much easier to sell. Person A saved Person B, and Person B becomes an emotional devotee to Person A.
    — For Sarek there would have to be a logical reason for him to believe that the human Starfleet officer is the right person, in the right place, at the right time to make something important achievable.

    Given to an Enterprise Season 4 writer…. Maybe. They did not get to complete their long term plan for Trip + T’Pol.

    With the current production staff, I don’t see it.

    PEACE
    _______

    (1) https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Unification_II_(episode)

  48. Sparkon says:
    @A123

    JMS went way out on a limb back Trumbo who is one of the few true criminals called out by McCarthy.

    Except that Dalton Trumbo was called but refused to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1947.

    Joseph McCarthy was a freshman senator in 1947, and had nothing to do with the HUAC. McCarthy’s Senate investigation was about Communist agents in the U.S. Government, not Hollywood.

    Trumbo’s troubles arose out of gossip in a Hollywood magazine:

    On July 29, 1946, William R. Wilkerson, publisher and founder of The Hollywood Reporter, published a “TradeView” column entitled “A Vote For Joe Stalin”. It named Trumbo and several others as Communist sympathizers, the first persons identified on what became known as “Billy’s Blacklist”

    In October 1947, drawing upon these names, the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) summoned Trumbo and nine others to testify for their investigation as to whether Communist agents and sympathizers had surreptitiously planted propaganda in U.S. films.

    The writers refused to give information about their own or any other person’s involvement and were convicted for contempt of Congress. They appealed the conviction to the Supreme Court on First Amendment grounds and lost. In 1950, Trumbo served eleven months in the federal penitentiary in Ashland, Kentucky.

    (my bold, edits)

    History trumps fiction.

    • Replies: @Anon242
  49. songbird says:

    It’s kind of surprising how nobody ever seemed to try to copy Star Trek. Most of the ideas are’t original – certainly not the word “Federation,” not phasers, not warp speed. I’m not sure about transporters, but I suspect not. In fact, a lot of the plots of episodes are basically stolen from short stories.

    Of course, I haven’t delved too deeply into the fan-made episodes, but they seem pretty horrible. One thing I really liked about TOS is how the dialogue tended to be snappy. That wasn’t true in a lot of other shows like Stargate, where the clock would be ticking without anyone saying anything.

  50. JackOH says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    DH, as a youngster, and a Star Trek fan, I bought a 75-cent paperback, with a title something like The Making of Star Trek, or something close to that. “Wagon Train in Space” was the phrase I recognize as Roddenberry’s pitch line to the Hollywood execs.

    Cool stuff from that book that I recall (or think I do!). The phasers were made from geometric Swedish modern salt and pepper shakers in the commisary. The very quickly sliding doors that opened up on the bridge had fans with engineering backgrounds baffled. The secret was stage hands pulling cheap plywood or Masonite panels apart on cue. Lots of fun!

    My opinion, FWIW. STOS and STNG are commercial sci-fi entertainment. Like literary sci-fi from the early 20th century, there’s a lot of trashiness, but at their zenith, they offered profoundly good and provocative entertainment.

  51. Max Payne says:

    All you have to do is watch the credits of new Trek and note 21 PRODUCERS before hitting the last name… Alex Kurtzman

    When you burn through producers that fast you know something is wrong. Or not I guess….

    TOS was more of a HORROR sci-fi then anything else (which is why the author had very little to reference in his essay). In almost all episodes the Enterprise suffers fatal causalities. Space is a dark and scary place. Observe:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Jedi Night
  52. Polemos says:

    Sisko is guilty of a war crime by allowing Garak to get away with assassinating the Romulan they attempted to fool with a faaaake!, then covering it all up and deleting the captain’s log for that episode.

  53. @Jeff Stryker

    I was born about a decade after you, but my mother had a short-term live-in boyfriend who was crazy about Star Trek. We never got along very well. In an apparent attempt to curry my favor, he took me to see First Contact on opening night in November 1996. At the time, I knew very little about Trek, having seen maybe one or two episodes of TNG.

    Say what you will, but I was blown away. I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. If nothing else, it introduced me to the franchise.

    (They were handing out Enterprise-E cutaway posters in the lobby. I kept mine and held on to it for years. Sadly, it got lost during a move.)

    In retrospect, FC was a poor introduction to Trek in general and TNG in particular. For one thing, the movie version of Picard (“I will make them PAY for what they’ve done!”) was a completely different character from the TV show’s tea-sipping, Shakespeare-quoting, hailing frequency-opening skipper. But Stewart acted his ass off, and Frakes churned out a decent big dumb action flick.

    I started watching Voyager and DS9 a couple of weeks later. I remember the names of the first episodes that I ever watched – “Flashback” and “Rapture” – and even the date on which they aired: New Year’s Day 1997.

    My local station stopped running TNG reruns literally two weeks before I started watching Trek. TNG and DS9 had been airing on one station and Voyager on another. When the TNG/DS9 station dumped Trek altogether, the Voyager station picked up DS9, but not TNG. (And only new DS9 episodes – no reruns.)

    This station had very little interest in Trek. Aside from the new episodes of Voyager and DS9 on Wednesday night, its one paltry token offering was a rerun of the previous week’s episode of Voyager at 1 a.m. on Sunday morning. It was a dry period for Trekkers, to be sure.

    So, aside from several episodes that I was able to acquire on VHS (including a special value pack of the various Trek pilots), I saw very little of TOS and TNG until they began airing on the Sci-Fi Channel and TNN/Spike, respectively.

    By skimping and saving, I was able to snare enough TNG episodes (including both parts of “The Best of Both Worlds”) to have a good idea of the show’s general tone. But I knew almost nothing about TOS, apart from what I was able to glean from a dog-eared copy of The Star Trek Compendium that I picked up for fifty cents at a used bookstore. My main impressions of Kirk and Spock were based on the 1980s movies, several of which I was able to buy for a couple of bucks from a video store that was going out of business.

    I didn’t get to see the bulk of early Voyager and DS9 until both shows came out on DVD in the mid-2000s.

    My mother, while not notable for her generosity, nevertheless encouraged and (on special occasions) assisted my efforts to grow my collection. She herself owned – hoarded, really – thousands of movies, including many obscure horror titles, on such disparate formats as VHS, Betamax, and laserdisc. At one point, she even owned an international PAL/NTSC TV with a VCD player.

    [MORE]

    And Mom, in her infinite wisdom, did absolutely nothing during my formative years to prevent me from being exposed to material that few would deem appropriate for children. For example, we watched Suspiria together when I was about seven or eight years old. (She was a huge Dario Argento fan.)

    One might think that being exposed to sex and violence at an early age would induce promiscuity and a general acceptance of immorality, but for me it had the opposite effect. I grew numb to provocative imagery.

    One time, when I was about nine or ten, we were watching a movie – was it Boxing Helena? – with a fairly explicit sex scene. She turned to me and said, “They make it look exciting, but it’s not. Sex is the most overrated activity you can imagine. It’s so f**king tedious.”

    (She didn’t watch her tongue, obviously.)

    Another time, we were watching a movie with a sappy love scene. She remarked that that “true love” was a Hollywood myth designed to perpetuate the species – and our species didn’t need to be perpetuated. “One child,” she added glumly, “is more than enough.”

    The obvious implication, of course, was that she didn’t really want me around. But it was only an unspoken implication – a hint, as it were. It wasn’t until I was in high school that she explicitly admitted that she’d wanted to abort me – having a kid was too much of a hassle – but my grandmother talked her out of it.

    How much of this was sour grapes about her own hapless romantic life, I can’t say. But it made me pretty damned cynical at an early age.

    But, anyway, during the videotape era, the Sam Goody at my favorite mall never offered more than a handful of Trek episodes, generally priced at $19.99 a pop. One lazy Sunday afternoon – this would have been in the summer of ’98, give or take an eon or two – I took a two-hour ride to a distant mall and stumbled upon a Suncoast Motion Picture Company store that had the complete runs of TOS and TNG on VHS. It was almost awe-inspiring to stand in the store and gaze upon all of those brightly-colored boxes. If I’d had the money, I would have bought each and every one of them.

    (Alas, I couldn’t afford even one. Such were the deprivations of my underprivileged youth.)

    Is there a point to this spergy, rambling, wall-of-text infodumping? Not really, except to point out that even a clueless millennial like me can still remember what it was like to live in a world before virtually every movie and TV show ever made was available on-demand, often for free.

    I’m one of the youngest people who are old enough to understand why, say, Napster was a big deal.

    In addition to movies, my mother collected music on vinyl, cassette, CD, etc. She always did value possessions over people, media over men. Movies, music, books.

    And I’ve come to understand her position. After all, no hunk of plastic and magnetic tape ever broke my heart.

    (Except for the ones that got chewed up by the VCR, that is. And the ones that accidentally got taped over. And the ones that were in that one box that I know I put in the van, but that I never saw again.)

    Isn’t it funny how, as you get older, you end up longing for the days when you had nothing, when you pined after all the things that you have now?

    Right now, without getting up, I can watch any and every episode of any and every Star Trek episode ever made, right here from the comfort of my grungy metal folding chair. But I’d give anything to be back in a time when I couldn’t watch any of them. I’d give anything to be back in a time when the highlight of my weekend was staying up late on Saturday night just to watch a tedious Voyager crapfest (in horrible over-the-air reception, to boot) that I’d already seen. I’d give anything not to have all the things I spent so many years hustling to get.

    Why? Because those episodes spoke to me. They moved me. They changed me. They made me more (or less) than I was before I watched them.

    Those damn episodes don’t do anything for me anymore. They’re visual and sonic wallpaper. Background clutter. White noise. Mind droppings. Been there, done that. So f**king tedious.

    Now, on the verge of middle age, I find myself growing increasingly appreciative of the one media experience of my youth that, in archived footage on YouTube, is still as good as I remember it: the old-school Weather Channel.

    I always kept a big stack of those glossy hurricane tracking maps they used to give out at the supermarket. (The manager used to chide me for taking so many.) All those long days and late nights spent vegetating in front of the TV, waiting for the latest advisory on some middling little tropical depression off the coast of Africa … good times.

  54. Alfa158 says:
    @Max Payne

    No need to scroll through the 21 producers first, you can skip straight to Kurtzman, and that’ll tell you right there it’s a dumpster fire.

  55. @Max Payne

    I think that is a great observation (being horror scifi). They were always encountering gods, demons, ghosts, psychics, paranormal weirdness in general.

    Watching it again, I think the over-acting charge leveled again Shatner is unfair. He was a very subtle actor with a wide range of convincing responses. .

    The OS definitely had less pointless dialog than TNG, and a lot more action. TNG is so cerebral.

  56. @Stan Adams

    TJ Hooker and In Search Of and Takei as the Japanese Yakuza on Miami Vice were a Gen X thing and you had to be born in the 1970’s to remember them. They both ran for five years. A kid born in 1974 grew up with George Takei as the Yakuza kingpin on Miami Vice (In one episode he rapes Melanie Griffith, which seems amusing considering he is possibly the most vocally militant gay in Hollywood).

    Oddly enough, I watched all the original Star Trek films at the local theater mall. My Dad took me to the first in 1980 when I was six years old and then my mother took me to the second-Wrath of the Fantasy Island Guy-when I was 8 in 1982.

    However Briarwood Mall became diverse-first my grandmother’s car was stolen from the parking lot and then finally while watching a Godzilla Matinee in 1985 a black man jumped up in the middle of the film and flashed the children in the audience and exposed a huge black dong and then tore off out the exit and the cops came and questioned all of us 12 year old kids. The black flasher had been doing this for a while-showing up during a matinee and exposing his dong to white children-and we had to answer some questions. My parents decided to stop visiting that mall.

    Boxing Helena was popular on campus and I was 20 when I saw it-it was big with the nihilistic Gen X Reality Bites mood of the early-to-mid-nineties age group.

    • Replies: @songbird
  57. @Stan Adams

    Can I ask where your father was?

    What happened to him. Was your mother still in high school? Was your father older?

    Where was he during this?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  58. @Stan Adams

    Very interesting post. I was born in 1962 and remember a time even before videotapes, which I think got going in 1980. If you liked a movie or an old series, all you could do was hope it would show up on a local station at some point. If you wanted background info, it was usually much harder to find.

  59. a rigorous meritocracy, just as Silicon Valley is today

    You cannot be serious.

  60. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    Meritocracy in Silicon Valley? Silicon Valley is “largely free” of diversity requirements? This guy is still stuck in 1985. When Star Trek was differently, but equally awful.

    I see that Vox Day has given his predictably awful take after having clearly not read or understood the thing which he’s commenting on. One wonders where he finds the time between promulgating all his Q drops and predicting the incoming Trumpslide (now down 11 points to Biden). BTW, the point made is largely true — or at least it was until recently. Day would know that if he understood what he was talking about. These companies have employed some of the strictest possible standards for employment over the decades. There are numerous stories of prospective hires having to take all sorts of tests. Having male Indian and Asian employees =/= typical diversity hires seen in Hollywood nowadays.

    Steve Sailer has written pretty extensively in the past about Silicon Valley’s demographics. He correctly noted at the time that Silicon Valley seemed largely immune to the typical diversity hiring requirements seen elsewhere (black and Hispanic employees are rare). It was noted that this was likely the result of America’s ruling elite not wanting to kill the golden goose. The only one stuck in 85 is Vox Day. That’s his IQ.

    This guy is still stuck in 1985.

    The comment was about Star Trek as it was then. You know, around 1987 and through the 90s. Like I said, 85.

    Nice, until you slipped in that “Israel es muy macho” hasbara stuff at the end, which of course was the whole point. Clever.

    Not everyone who mentions that country in a (modestly) positive light is hasbara. I seem to recall Steve Sailer praising Netanyahu on more than one occasion as the leader the US would love to have. Israel is undoubtedly a more masculine country than the US, and it shows in their politics. They defend their border, they defend their country’s culture, they elect strong leaders without a hint of a Hillary Clinton or an Elizabeth Warren in sight. None of that’s true with the United States, a feminized country to the core. That’s the truth regardless of whether or not you want to admit it. Instead of complaining without offering solutions, perhaps the wiser course is to copy what works.

  61. @Marty Brokenhearted

    Best comment, right here.

    White men have no one to blame but ourselves. If you can’t cut a bitch off, then don’t expect to be respected.

    “I’m done with Marvel after Endgame.”
    “At least it still has gore, that’s the important thing” (MK11, aka “Kuckold Kombat”).
    “It’s just a design change. They can’t keep things always the same,” (every video game franchise that is converged).

    Once SJWs get control of something, it is over. There will be no bright side, or redeeming quality.

    But the average white male fan has to be a damn “smart boy,” gamma and above anything having to do with human relationships.

  62. @Guillaume Durocher

    “Fart jokes.”

    A carefully-timed fart at a stifled dinner party or a stuffy business meeting can be a real icebreaker.

  63. anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Priss Factor

    Where to begin?

    Michael is a unisex name, like Leslie or Evelyn or Taylor.

    The Vulcans were always stronger, more long-lived, smarter, and embodied a purer Libertarian para-philosophy concerned with one’s salvation as well in this life and the next if there is one. Indeed, the Vulcans get rid of arrogant non-libertarian elements stimulated by guiding Earth, elements who’re trying to turn it’s stoic-Aristotelian Libertarianism into an emotionless cult.

    1960’s Star Trek embodied 1980’s liberalism? What?

    Etc.

    Star Trek sought to portray a high-IQ libertarian-direction confederacy, as Roddenberry said ‘What communist China claimed to be’…Roddenberry consulted regularly with the leaders of the Libertarian International on that, Gilson father and son. The Gilsons would even get things in so the intelligent young would back-engineer it, from inter-racial sexuality to internet communications and tablets. Star Trek transcends the primitive racist/class categories used by the far-left and this article. It’s why the focus was partnership and convivience, not conflict, a new kind of art. If you didn’t catch that most Star Trek characters were 130+ IQ bi-sexual (those from Earth), you weren’t paying attention (like the series writers today).

    The current Star Treks are not consulting with the Libertarians anymore, but continue libertarian ideas from sheer momentum. Nothing wrong with a young Black heroine and a Spanish figure is long overdue (and sadly the villain, continuing left divisiveness like the ‘Black Legend’), and the fungus idea is clever and reflects current interest in bio-engineering. That’s the problem, the writers are trying to meld it with left division instead of libertarian partnership and harmonizing, and ineptly create pointless conflict and reveal melodrama. But that’s OK, because libertarianism encourages stopping to look at things in a contrarian way, because science. The more you fight it, the stronger it gets as you have to use it. We’re seeing light-hearted versions like the Orville.

    The Libertarians and the Gilsons (who founded the first libertarian or ‘franklin’ science-encouraging, secular and slaveless city in history, Sciutate, Mass. on land the Indians donated for the purpose, and helped secure the Rhode Island charter of liberty and have been IMHO implacably spreading that system to all nations ever since) don’t lose track of the Trek, thank goodness. They’ve started a 100-year conference project to develop Starships and liberal-libertarian colonies with NASA. Their damn Facebook even says front and center they foresee Interstellar Empires of Liberty. LBGT+, mass tax reductions, wider and frank discussion of race and culture, the spread of democracy were all begun in Gilson living rooms and salons. Michael Gilson negotiated the fall of the Iron Curtain. Libertarians have this thing called teaching logic in the grade schools. Etc.

    Their libertarian-liberal fans are in every country. I first met them in the 1950’s, and I met Roddenberry in their salons about this time. I don’t think they intend to stop. It seems humanity is warming up to this science and parliamentary method/due process thing they keep talking about.

  64. anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @jbwilson24

    I think OP means as of the 1980’s, but otherwise, yes, sadly so in many companies.

    The problem is not the diversity per se but that it is being hijacked by divisive far-left socialism and hatred.

    • Replies: @Kim
  65. songbird says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I wonder how much white flight has influenced Hollywood production.

    A certain percentage of whites stopped going to the movies because they didn’t want to support the multicult product, or the anti-white message. Another certain percentage stopped going because of the experience of ghetto kids talking – and you can hear their non-white voices, even when you can’t see them. All this must feed back into the product.

    I really think the non-white audience is the key to explaining the newer movies.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @anon
  66. TOS Star Trek that I and millions of other Gen-Xers grew up on (in syndication in the 70s) is as the author here suggests, the fiction of a white guy’s fantasy of the future or some other world.

    Many of the TOS fans, and probably even more for the TNG, would go on to become LOLbertarians. It’s a world that exists only in the minds of higher-IQ white guys (and Jews) for the most part.

    • Thanks: Pheasant
  67. >>”Michael is a unisex name, like Leslie or Evelyn or Taylor.”

    Raise your hand if you’ve ever heard of a female named Michael prior to ST:D…. anyone?

    While babynamewizard.com indicates that yes, there are some people who saddled their daughter with the name “Michael”, at it’s absolute peak last decade, it only ranked #747th most popular among girl names.

  68. @Tom Delsan

    Michael Learned from “The Waltons”.

  69. Sparkon says:

    Needs More Shatner!

    Mr. Tambourine Man, William Shatner

  70. anon[303] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Stan Adams

    Very moving post. Thank you.

    Like most libertarian fans, I find a lot in reading history and the Great Books/Art. They bear many ‘re-watchings’ and you get something new every time.

    Even the most tedious days are brightened by a good meal I make myself and sitting down with Marcus Aurelius or Mencius at my beck and call.

  71. aandrews says:

    “Men also like ship design, which was a major component of the old shows.”

    I have this poster, from the nineties, framed, behind glass. Of course, it’s in a closet (!) now, but I have it.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  72. Kim says:

    Just passing through and saw this article. I was surprised to find that cucks and nerds are still arguing on the internet about faggoty tv shows and what “spoiled” them.

    Next up, maybe the author could do a piece on his favorite NFL and NBA players and the unfairly high price of jerseys bearing their names. It is so expensive to be a fan (i.e., a cuckold faggot) nowadays!

    • Agree: Poco
  73. neutral says:

    The lead writers of these new Star Treks are now just literally all jews. Durocher tries to avoid the jewish problem by mentioning some Israeli jew that is opposed to the new Star Trek, this is however just a trick that does not work, Star Trek and all the other new shows are all overwhelmingly jew run operations, way more than anything compared to in the past shows.

    • Agree: Pheasant
  74. Sulu says:

    Woke is a dish best served broke. Old Klingon proverb.

    Sulu

  75. Kim says:
    @anon

    The problem is not the diversity per se but that it is being hijacked by divisive far-left socialism and hatred.

    What do you mean by “diversity per se”?

    Does there exist in your mind some kind of ideal diversity that under ideal conditions – properly raised and coaxed, monitored, funded, fed and educated – would flourish and produce different effects from those that we see arise from actual, real-world, dystopic diversity?

    Please explain. Where could I pluck a fragrant bouquet of this wonderful, rare flower, the non-destructive, non-problematic “diversity per se”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  76. @IvyMike

    The only thing we learn from Star Trek and almost all other Sci Fi TV and film is that the writers don’t have an effing clue about physics and space travel.

    Yeah, just like watching Harry Potter; how the fuck comes that JK Rowlings is unaware that there are no dragons?

    Damn, the British education system is going downhill!

  77. Dan Hayes says:

    After reading this article I am eternally grateful that I’ve never wasted time by watching even one episode of either Star Wars or Star Trek!

  78. @Peter D. Bredon

    Aint it fag jews doing all this horseshit?

  79. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    said:
    ” Israel is a parasite which the author sees as “masculinity” for some inexplicable reason.”

    “Inexplicable” indeed.

    – Why ‘Hollywood’ pushes homosexuality:

    Israel is the gayest country on earth: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/
    Welcome to Tel Aviv, the gayest city on earth: https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2016/03/17/welcome-tel-aviv-gayest-city-earth/y9V15VazXhtSjXVSo9gT9K/story.html
    and: https://www.jewishpress.com/news/is-tel-aviv-really-the-gayest-city-on-the-planet/2016/03/19/
    Jews more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian : http://akinokure.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/jews-more-than-twice-as-likely-to-be.html
    Homosexuality Is Part of Jewish Tradition, Contrary to the common perception, intimate relations between people of the same sex did not always have a negative image in Jewish communities. : https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-homosexuality-part-of-jewish-tradition-1.5383449
    STUDY: One-Third of Israelis Are Bisexual
    https://www.advocate.com/world/2015/08/31/study-one-third-israelis-are-bisexual
    Israel becoming ‘safe haven for paedophiles’ with laws that allow any Jews to legally return: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-safe-haven-paedophiles-jerusalem-sex-abuse-jewish-community-watch-a7445246.html

  80. eah says:

    Probably the only place in the Western world where this mentality can still be found is California’s Silicon Valley. As in the fictional world of Star Trek, men do most of the work; they advance through meritocracy; …

    “LOL”

  81. The show’s lead is a black woman who’s the best at everything.

    Must be a documentary.

    But seriously, the best takedown I’ve seen of Picard is by “The Critical Drinker.” He’s right, funny, and merciless towards the SJW crap.

    • Agree: fish
    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  82. @Peter D. Bredon

    I’m agreeing wholeheartedly with this, although I can’t just hit the button since I don’t comment frequently enough.

  83. Renoman says:

    It’s show business, very successful show business, it’s not made for analysis, it’s entertainment, if you don’t like it don’t watch it, if you can do better go for it. Nobody cares.

    • Agree: Pandour
  84. Emily says:

    This is why my TV extremely rarely gets turned on.
    I can’t be bothered with the brainwashing rubbish.
    Better things to do.
    And ‘Michael’?
    Where have I heard that name is a ‘trannie’ sense?
    Um?

  85. Z-man says:

    Jeri Ryan was hot in Two and a Half Men, where she appeared in two episodes, two seasons apart.
    I vaguely remember her character in Deep Space Nine since I didn’t watch it. I am a ‘first generation’ Star Trek man. (Grin)

  86. anon[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    A certain percentage of whites stopped going to the movies because they didn’t want to support the multicult product, or the anti-white message.

    You twit, the original Star Trek was also “multicult”, even multiplanet. The stories are the same and recycled.

    So this “non-White’ (no doubt according to you) stopped watching the nth regurgigation of the same banal stories. These shows were always propaganda and pushing new social models. Did notice that white women were now running the quasi-fascist highly militarized Federation instead of white men. Is that what’s gotten your panties in a twist?

  87. Tucker says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/

    I consider this bit of news to be cause for celebration.

    Better that jewish seed be deposited inside other men’s rectums than inside a female where it could produce more jews.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  88. I grew up in the 70s watching the original series in syndication, and I used to watch TNG somewhat regularly in highschool, but nothing after that. Looks like I haven’t missed much … more SJW garbage, just like everything else coming out of Hollywood anymore.

    There is an episode where he points out that Ferengi at their worst aren’t as bad as humans have been in recent memory – no genocides or slavery or concentration camps. Quark is supposed to represent much that is wrong with the contemporary world. He is also representative of the writers’ moral relativism – bad guy isn’t all that bad depending on perspective.

    Back in highschool, the old dark legend about the Ferengi is that they were supposed to represent the Jews. But later when I was in college, I was exposed to a different idea entirely. I was once watching an episode in my dorm room when my roommate came in and started watching it with me. He was from Pakistan, and when the Ferengi appeared on screen, he looked at me and started laughing mischievously. ‘What is it?’ I ask him. He told me that in Urdu, ferengi was a derogatory term for a whiteboy. ‘One of the writers of that show,’ he speculated, ‘must be from Pakistan or India, and somehow this got past the producers!’ (I lost track of the plot of the show after that, as I spent the next half-hour or so asking him about other racist and derogatory terms in Urdu.)

    I thought his theory was kind of far-fetched at the time, but given what the author wrote above, maybe they were just breaking us in gradually to the coming SJW reality–even back then.

  89. trickster says:
    @Lurker

    No kidding. It looks like some of the Trek crew turned out to be fags in real life and when I say some who knows which others were queens or lesbos but have not yet come out from under their rock. There must be a moral there somewhere for the future of man and space travel. The explorers of old were really tough dudes , those of the future will turn out to be fruity homos.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  90. @Wally

    Trump Trekked Wally said: “Jews more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian.”

    Uh… they like well heeled & Alpha No Tellya’ Shabbos goy/shiksa lovers?

    Refer to sweetie Centurion & his Clingon, Roy Cohn, image, below?

    https://images.app.goo.gl/oLJMm3G9TyDDQKxe6

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
    , @Wally
  91. Star Trek fanboy equals nerd. How can grown men make a thing of a kids’ show? I was a teen when it came out, watched a few shows, that was enough. I lasted longer with sports, Twilight Zone was okay, Route 66, some others, but I never thought of them as worthy of cult status. We had this thing called the outdoors, books, girls… Television was pretty pathetic by and large.

  92. aandrews says:
    @Tom Delsan

    Ann Rice’s actual given name is Howard. Her father evidently was a wet-brained alcoholic and her mother was “mad”, according to the Wikipedia entry. Talk about being “saddled” with a name! But then there’s Dweezil and Moon Unit.

  93. 68W58 says:
    @A123

    DS9 is the best Star Trek and “In the Pale Moonlight” is a fantastic episode. Say what you will about the Ferengi, but you knew what they were all about upfront and you trusted one potentially at your peril. Sisko was a complicated character who had to deal with a variety of challenges and sometimes conflicting expectations, and this was also often true of many of the supporting characters as well. Religion and money were both taken seriously as factors that motivated people to take action, and those people were sometimes shown acting in good faith and sometimes not (just like real people).

    One thing I have to say is that there is an episode that demonstrates how hard it is to know what the future will look like. There are two episodes that are set in San Francisco just a few years from now and some of the characters are sent back there. The city is seen as being on the brink of catastrophe with a huge homeless population (they got that part right, at least). But when one of the characters gets separated from the others she persuades a passerby to let her use his computer to see the news. He takes her into his home to use his big desktop workstation (the height of technology in 1995 when the episode was made), but we all know he could have just taken out his phone. Of course it was impossible for the show’s writers to know this and anyone watching those episodes today will have to laugh a little at the scene.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  94. Dirty Harry is 89 years old … why should he care if he is blacklisted by you know who?

  95. Rooster2 says:

    This quote from the article sums up all modern day pop culture:

    “Star Trek now serves as a vehicle for airing out racial and gender grievances against the perceived white male audience. It’s akin to planting your tribe’s flag on another tribe’s territory. The aggrieved gets a rush from being able to rub their enemy’s face in their loss. It’s intentional.”

  96. Anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    I really think the non-white audience is the key to explaining the newer movies.

    Most certainly. Given that the US is to transformed into a non-White nation in the near future, Hollywood must either adapt or die. Trouble with the Star Trek adaptations is that the non-white audience isn’t interested in industrial society or the engineering that makes it work or in going boldly into situations where nobody has any experience. They want stability with constant niches, or they want constant chaos with young warriors battling for access to the young women.
    Hollywood is the descendant of Vaudeville, which existed to provide entertainment for Eastern and Southern European immigrants to the US (and employment/income to the largely Jewish performers), but in the context of a highly aggressive US establishment (including the Catholic Decency League, CDL). Its product is a 1960s radical modification of the old US establishment approved Vaudeville, from around 1950.
    The non-whites don’t care about the old US establishment approved Vaudeville, from around 1950. they like rap or standard Latin American artistic forms or plays in which Latin American or Chinese or Indian virtues triumph, depending on the group.
    Putting Jewish Lesbians in charge of the writing doesn’t satisfy the non-Whites. It doesn’t even satisfy the Hasidim.
    Hollywood is dead. In its new chosen market it will be (is being) out-competed by competition from the home countries of the non-white groups.
    You would think that the Jewish / foreign groups could repeat the great success of Vaudeville, but perhaps that depended on the interaction between performers and their audience and also between owners and authorities (e.g. CDL forced pornography out of mass distribution movies and cartoons). None of that is available today, and we’re getting a last luxuriant growth of an industry that is burning its remaining talent and labor pool by essentially entertaining itself with delusions of propaganda power. They are sort of like the news media that way.

  97. @Wally

    That’s a whole lot of inbreeding for you …

  98. aandrews says:
    @A123

    The transporter also spawned deep philosophical inquiry.

  99. Feryl says: • Website
    @Wally

    Jews are also more likely to admit to being gay relative to other ethnic groups. On the general social survey, black Boomers report being less gay than later generations of blacks. It’s not that Boomers are less gay (same sex behavior among males is pretty consistent from generation to another), it’s that since circa 1990 black Americans have been more accepting of homosexuality (as are all ethnic groups, come to think of it). So Gen X/Millennial/Gen Z blacks are more comfortable publicly identifying as gay. But older generations of blacks are still uncomfortable about the issue.

    That being said, since Jews are by far the most culturally liberal group, to this day, it shouldn’t be surprising that they have the weakest taboos regarding the reporting of one’s sexual identity.

    *If being gay was “taught” and was dictated by fashion, then you’d expect exponential growth in homosexuality with each generation. But that isn’t happening with males. We didn’t go from 5% of Boomer males being gay, to 10% of Gen X being gay, to 20 % of Millennials, and so on. On the GSS, white males of all generations report similar levels of same sex behavior. Females are another story. Since the late 80’s moral panic about sexual harassment and other forms of “unwanted/unwelcome” intimacy , girls have been conditioned to be afraid of males, so naturally, late Gen X girls have done the lesbian thing more than older generations did, Millennial girls are gayer than Gen X was, and Gen Z’s rate of lesbian behavior is off the charts. Ironically, actual sexual abuse by males has declined considerably over the last 25 years**. So the increasingly frigid relationship between males and females is causing lots of males to keep their pants on (and their hands to themselves) while the gals go gay.

    **Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960’s-1990’s. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @dfordoom
  100. @fish

    As it should be . I don’t listen to Blacks. They are full of shit and are liars. Black ghetto trash criminal degenerate inner city culture is what they have contributed to America. Blacks didn’t build this country or invent one damn thing. The only reason they have a pot to piss in is the White man. The only reason they live in the modern world is the White Man. All these SJW females are only taking their cues from Blacks and their degenerate thug rap criminal violent culture. Whites just emulate degenerate Black culture. They have forsaken their own people to worship Black degenerates.

    • Replies: @anon
  101. @ChuckOrloski

    “Black’s more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian.” There,fixed it. Downlow anyone.yo yo yo..Ever see all the stories of the rampant lesbo WNBA …guess what…Of players, 68.5 percent are African-American or black, ooops don’t expose Blackie.

  102. @Peter D. Bredon

    Could be. But- masculine & gay are not mutually exclusive.

    When speaking of homosexuals, men of course, I guess most people think nancy boys, fairies, feminization etc.

    But male homosexuality is, historically, also militaristic & brutal. Just think of elite units in ancient Greece (I think in Thebes, or Macedonia, I’m not sure); then Janissary corps in the Ottoman Empire (most of them homo), then Roehm’s brown shirts in the 1930s Germany etc. etc.

    Among historical figures, Alexander the Great was certainly bisexual, while most Greek tyrants & military men were homos, as were many other masculine men (Cecil Rhodes, Kitchener, in all likelihood Richard Francis Burton..).

    So- Israelis, hetero & homo, are screwing Arabs big time. Literally.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    , @dvorak
  103. JackOH says:
    @Stan Adams

    Well-written reminiscence, Stan Adams.

    FWIW-I’d like to think one of the unsung benefits of old-fashioned bourgeois propriety (or hypocrisy), informed by at least notional religious morality, was that parents would be troubled about sharing details of their personal intimacy with their children because it would induce unearned behavioral consequences in young minds. La Rochefoucauld’s aphorism about vice and virtue comes to mind.

  104. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kim

    A car engine. Different parts being very different doing things they do best and passing it on to the next different part do its unique part contributing to a marvelous holistic output!

  105. Flubber says:

    ST Picard has four writers – all four are Jewish, all four are open progressive commies.

    So with ST:P they have simply implemented a year zero policy – just like Disney has done to the Star Wars universe. Why?

    Its sure as shit isn’t about money – these actions have destroyed literally billions in IP value.

    Its cultural vandalism, its a demoralisation campaign. ST is from the 60’s , SW from the 70’s. Both eras that when remembered, highlight just how much has been lost.

  106. I have a different philosophy as to why media sucks today compare to the past-this is independent, or broader than, Star Trek. I also acknowledge that progressivism is in fact terrible, and ruins things. So I’m not disagreeing with your premise-I’m suggesting there is something deeper.

    And that deeper is: people today don’t read. That means writers don’t read. That means when they write, they are not writing based on a lifetime of reading-reading history, reading philosophy (even armchair philosophy), reading science fiction, reading classic novels, reading reading reading.

    Instead, people watch tv. That means future writers watch tv. That means, when they write, they are writing based on a lifetime of watching television.

    This has an effect on how, and what, they write. They don’t write classic science fiction (which broadly speaking would be the exploration of ideas through the plot of a science fiction show). They write tv science fiction (which, broadly speaking, means they are writing a 20 minute character driven melodrama similar to every sitcom they grew up watching).

    Because people don’t read, they don’t think in terms of ideas. Again: I don’t mean everyone in the past spent their teen years debating Plato (though some did). It can just as easily mean: future writers in the past may have read about Napoleon, and the Peloponnesian War, and Alexander the Great, and of course WWII, so when they write a science fiction story about war, they are writing about a greater and broader understanding of WAR. A modern writer would write a simile about World War 2 or the Iraq War-because those are the only one’s he’s seen on tv.

    A writer in the past who wants to explore freedom might be familiar with Plato and Aristotle (Even on a superficial level), as well as the European struggle against Kings, as well as America’s revolutionary past. A modern writer who writes about freedom will write about Martin Luther King and gay rights-because that is what is on tv. And so on and so on.

    I have lately been listening to 40’s junction: a 1940’s music channel on Sirius XM* and it is amazing how literary pop music was 60 years ago. Classical, or historical, or literary references in songs about taking the trolley or how great Connecticut is. Music writers, like movie and tv writers, used to read.

    joe

    *Why am I listening to 40’s music? I have recently played the computer games Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, and became attracted to the music. No hipster dufus here-I got it from zombie games.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  107. @Jeff Stryker

    Shatner was the Alpha dog man’s man you might have a few beers with. He has a bluff macho persona.

    I liked him more as Denny Crane.

    By the way- and I don’t want to offend anyone- I find all this Star Trek cult weird (and the show itself). To be completely honest, science fiction as a genre is … well, not infantile, but: adolescent?

    Yes.

    When I was in my early 20s (and in adolescence), I’ve read many sci-fi “classics”. I liked Asimov, Clarke, Stapledon, Matthiesen (sp?), some Heinlein, and above all, Stanislaw Lem, who leaves all others in the dust.

    I didn’t care for Le Guin & Herbert & Gibson.

    Movies & TV?

    Kubrick’s magnum opus remains the best, after all these years, and many other films are still watchable (most of the Alien franchise). Also, Matrix 1 was good.

    But- Star Trek?

    The same goes for Tolkien, vampire stuff etc.

    At best, a comedy.

  108. “Israel is a masculine country that requires compulsory military service, is based around codes of principle (Jewish heritage), is partly multicultural (maybe 20% of the population isn’t Jewish), is group-oriented, and has a high percentage of intellectual figures.”

    Gosh, Israel sure does sound idyllic. Great spot for the Third Temple. On the other hand, the USA sucks:

    “The biggest supporters of these new incarnations, not surprisingly, are the show’s American writers – along with a few “critics”. These people lack any loyalty to a higher cause (other than themselves), are nihilistic, are sadistic, enjoy berating “the other” (men, whites, themselves even), and have practically no respect for anything they aren’t personally invested with. In other words, they are thoroughly Americanized losers.”

    Just in case we missed the sales pitch,

    “Not surprisingly, the biggest internet critic of these two incarnations is an Israeli Jew (I suspect)”

    So “Divine Right” isn’t certain, but he (yeah, DR’s a he) concludes any voice of sanity must be a weenie-clipper. Because Americans are the problem. Even though the show runner is (((Alex Kurtzman))).

    All this cultural Marxism — abortion rights, gun control, women’s lib, LGBT, affirmative action, limitless “refugees,” lawsuits against school prayer and crosses on public property — none of that has anything to do with Jews. They’re opposed to all that nonsense. Abbie Hoffman, Daniel Ellsberg, Bella Abzug, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer and all the other Roman Catholics have always strived to preserve America’s cultural integrity.

    This ridiculous article should carry a tag line, “I’m Benjamin Netanyahu and I approved this message.”

  109. The Federation was an *obvious* stand in for 1960s America, which was then committing a genocidal war in Vietnam. What’s wrong about showing it as it really was and is now even more: corrupt, imperalist, mendacious, and led by people interested only in their own advantage?

    I like how the author of this article imagines that a now totally marginal show like Star Trek is somehow more influential than the endless warmongering, imperalist movies made by the Hollywood/Pentagon complex, by the way. That’s so precious of him.

    • Agree: niceland
    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  110. Wally says:
    @Feryl

    Go tell that to the ‘Israelis’.

    IOW, you’re just making that all up, wishing it was true.

  111. Hacienda says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Shatner was the Alpha dog man’s man you might have a few beers with. He has a bluff macho persona.

    No, Jeff, no.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  112. @Bardon Kaldian

    The only thing that was fascinating was Takei’s spleen towards Shatner (And Nimoy to a lesser degree).

    And like I said, these guys (To their credit) were on television for so long that Boomers remember Shatner as Kirk, I remember him as TJ Hooker and a Gen Y remembers him from Boston Legal.

    Just like I remember Takei as the Yakuza pimp on Miami Vice (He seems so gay now that it is hard to believe he once raped Melanie Griffith).

  113. Note:

    You chose the wrong photo — it’s misleading. This,

    “Problems are solved with diplomacy instead of violence. Money doesn’t exist, so there is no capitalism, greed, or want. People spend their lives bettering humanity and doing other such noble things like negotiating peace with aliens or exploring the universe in one of Starfleet’s advanced starships, each equipped with a plethora of miraculous technologies. In their leisure time, the crews of these starships visit a holographic room, the holodeck, which can conjure any fantasy into a photorealistic facsimile of the real thing.”

    is not reflective of the original series. In fact, one of the saving graces of the old series and there are many — is that humans are not the smartest or the most benign beings anywhere; greed, avarice, personal ambition, frailty and down right meanness were all alive and well. And that original series was careful about matters of faith, but they did make some very definitive episodes about faith the leaned very traditional.

    The shows you are talking about are far removed from the original series.

  114. “…the white writers imagined meritocracy would ensure whites like themselves would still have a position at the top of society (just as in Hollywood then and Silicon Valley now)”.

    I am sad to say that Mr. Durocher’s description of Silicon Valley is outdated. I am at a prominent high-tech company, with decades in that business. Today, there is a quota for promoting women and Africans, at all technical grade levels, especially the upper ones. When promotions are announced every year, most of us would look at each other asking “What has she (or he) done to deserve being elevated to that level?”. Those promotions used to be a badge of honor worn only by the select few, after years (if not decades) of innovation, and persistent hard work creating products.

    Many of us could not pursue the question, or provide explanations, any further, except to our most-trusted friends. I have seen people being dragged into month-long investigations (inquisitions) because they had dared utter a criticism in a gathering or a meeting. Some (if not most) high-tech companies, today, have anonymous reporting internal web sites where someone could file a complaint against another, and not be known even to the investigators. The accuser is fully protected, while the burden is on the accused to prove his or her innocence. If you do not believe it, then please reach out to any of your friends who work at a high-tech company, and ask them. Even foreign-born technical folks (mostly Indians) are disgusted by the situation, but there is nothing that anyone could do, other than leave those companies, and end their livelihood.

    To add more insult to the injury, in the case of women, many of the promotions go to foreign-born ones, because the natural ratio of highly-technical women in any society is relatively small, but in relative terms India and China could provide countless of them, combined. Those two countries are almost nine times the population of the US. The only place where meritocracy truly exists today, is when someone starts a new company, since that requires real talent. Unfortunately, once that company becomes larger, or is purchased by one of the behemoths, then strict meritocracy goes out the window.

    The stock which created America and the values which made it great (Meritocracy within institutions), have lost the country already.

    • Thanks: Miro23
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Philip Owen
  115. @Bardon Kaldian

    Who is this miserable goblin, Bardon Kaldian ,who wrote?:
    “… The same goes for Tolkien, vampire stuff etc.”

    Here is 🌟J.R.R. Tolkien who in The Hobbit, Chapter Over Hill and Under Hill, wrote:

    “Now goblins are cruel and wicked & bad hearted. They make no beautiful things, but they make many cunning things. They can tunnel & mine, but when they take the trouble, they are usually untidy and dirty. Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, (US Magic Money Aid🕎), and also instrunents of torture, they make very well…”

    (Zigh) Fyi, They make ZUS presidents too.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  116. gay troll says:
    @Priss Factor

    The Federation is a fascist/communist tyranny, spreading their Starfleet across the galaxy under the pretense of “science”. The only reason the scenario works is because they have energy to matter converters that can produce any food or goods they desire. Question: if E=MC2, where does all the energy come from for Picard’s Earl Greys and Troi’s chocolate sundaes? Star Trek has never been anything more than a post WWII crypto Zionist siren song. Moreover, TOS was a strategic psyop to condition Americans to believe in the moon hoax. There’s a reason the show ended in 1969. Starring Captain (((Kirk))) and First Officer (((Spock))) on their ship “Enterprise”.

  117. Has anyone noticed that every one in Star Trek was a officer,the only two enlisted rank who had speaking parts where Yeoman Rand and Chief O Brisn.

    • Replies: @Ray P
  118. @ChuckOrloski

    Who is this miserable goblin, Bardon Kaldian

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Troll: neutral
  119. vot tak says:

    “Israel is a masculine country that requires compulsory military service, is based around codes of principle (Jewish heritage), is partly multicultural (maybe 20% of the population isn’t Jewish), is group-oriented, and has a high percentage of intellectual figures. These are all things you might vaguely see in Star Trek’s The Federation, especially in The Next Generation.”

    The author is a zionist. That explains the warped nonsense in the article above this section. And below it, as well.

    • Replies: @Milesglorious
  120. I remember a book in the 90’s comparing “Star Trek, the Next’s” characters to Greek drama’s classic roles. I looked for that in this article and missed it. Comparing the roles to the Greek’s seems much more instructive than this dive into Hollywood’s banal, porn, cartoon, drug, booze culture. Light-up for a Marlboro ad. I chucked out the TV 30 yrs. ago.

  121. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:

    I still watch the first Star Trek sometimes but couldn’t stomach any of the later ones, they just got more and more stupid. Even the original series turned my stomach when it got too liberal or preachy lecturing us that the future will be a 1960’s liberal male’s wet dream. The result is, I have never gotten through some episodes without throwing up. You really have to hand it to the writer of the article in his ability to sit through all this dreck without shooting his television. He must have a hide as thick as an Elephant!

  122. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    Special delivery for Star Trek fans: (((Leonard Nimoy))), (((William Shatner))), (((Walter Koenig))), (((Brent Spiner))), (((Armin Shimmerman))), (((Max Grodenchik))), (((Aron Eisenberg))), (((Wallace Shawn))), and yes, at least one goy sodomite. http://judaism.is/jew-media.html#startrek

    Jewish themes in Star Trek by the self-admitted autistic/ADHD Rabbi Yonassan Gershom, http://trekjews.blogspot.com/

    H✡llyw✡✡d has been processing goyim for over a century. Turn off your talmudvision.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  123. Ray P says:
    @Milesglorious

    Nurse Christine Chapel (Majel Barrett)?

    • Replies: @Milesglorious
    , @Ray P
  124. @Digital Samizdat

    He told me that in Urdu, ferengi was a derogatory term for a whiteboy.

    True. And I believe in Persian as well, and Arabic “ferenji”. And probably originally referred to the Crusaders/Western Europeans (“the Franks”). Still, the behavior of the ferengi is clearly stereotypical Jewish – not British blind arrogance and militarism. I suspect “ferengi” was purposely used to provide plausible deniability.

    • Replies: @fightapathy
  125. @vot tak

    If you want to understand Star Trek,watch Galaxy Quest.

  126. Ray P says:
    @joeyjoejoe

    Inevitably, TV Tropes has identified this phenomenon as Small Reference Pools. Kurt Vonnegut in Timequake noted:

    “Steve learned the hard way that all his jokes for TV had to be about events that had been made much of by TV itself, and very recently. If a joke was about something that hadn’t been on TV for a month or more, the watchers wouldn’t have a clue, even though the laugh track was laughing, as to what they themselves were supposed to laugh about.”

  127. I suppose the truly shocking thing about this essay is how it puts TNG into a positive light — not merely by comparison to its horror-show successors. I was a loyal watcher of TNG when it was being produced, but I found it to be crammed with over-the-top liberal activism. It wasn’t just liberal. It was aggressively so. Every week I found myself exasperated by some new liberal outrage being promoted, from tranny aliens (played by the lady who played Amy Allen on the A-Team) to a fanatical eco-terrorist who blows herself up to teach the universe the dangers of warp drive (commended later on by Picard et al. for “being right about her cause”). One vomit-inducing liberal “moral message” after another.

    Yet, the author is entirely correct about the attractiveness of the show. For all the liberal activist messaging, the characters were indeed gripping and familiar and likable and honorable. The sets and stages were entertaining. The tech talk led to places in the script. It was an enjoyable ride, even if it included irritating leftist doctrine. Heck, I kept tuning each week, no matter how outrageous it became.

    Not so with these new shows. I quit in the middle of DS9 and never dared look again. Those clips provided above are impossible to watch. IMPOSSIBLE. They are torture. I got through 40 seconds of one and will not dare click another. I never watched a shooting spree video or ISIS beheading video. I certainly will not do psychological damage to myself by watching this garbage.

    Yet SOMEONE must be watching, or else it would not be made. Right? Who IS watching, by the way? The target audience is described as white male. But if TNG is available to download, why would anyone ever bother with this new diarrhea? It boggles the mind….

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Feryl
  128. @Peter Akuleyev

    I believe Ferengi comes from “firangi”, a Hindu caste of traders and merchants in western India.

  129. Pft says:

    I never bothered much with any of the series after the first one 50 years ago. Watched a few episodes with the bald captain but no more . Watched a couple of the movies with the original older actors. The ones that followed were bubble head fodder overly reliant on battle scenes and tech imagery. Yawn

    I got all of the original series on DVD. I rewatch a couple of the better episodes from time to time.

    The cultural marxists and LGBTers have destroyed hollywood. Last 20 years has been brutal to watch but I guess a lot of people like it. More evidence IQ’s are plummeting.

  130. Ray P says:
    @68W58

    It’s ironic given how people claim that nineteen sixties Star Trek invented the cell phone. Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home even had a joke with Scotty sitting down to use a mid-eighties cad station and expressing disdainful bemusement at the mouse and he even tries to use it as a microphone for a computer voice interface. “How quaint.”

  131. Ray P says:
    @aandrews

    A closet Star Trek fan, I love it. “Would you look at the nacelles on her!”

  132. Truth3 says:

    Oh my God.

    Would someone please turn this crap off.

    • Replies: @aandrews
  133. @Ray P

    I thought nurses in the military were officers,

    • Replies: @JackOH
  134. niceland says:

    IMDB score, just for fun.
    The Next Generation: 8.6
    The Original Series: 8.3
    Deep Space Nine: 7.9
    Voyager: 7.8
    Picard: 7.7
    Enterprise: 7.5
    Discovery: 7.3

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  135. JackOH says:
    @anobserver

    anobserver, thanks so much, bro!

  136. Vinnie O says:

    Simply awful, irretrievably stupid writing that wanders all over the place. I gave up before I got 1/3 of the way through.

    I watched the Original Star Trek when it first came out. I read a book about “The Making of Star Trek”, which is NOTHING LIKE this mess.

    I couldn’t stand ANY of the remakes, including Next Gen, and so I’m not familiar with most of the episodes. The Next Gen MOVIES of course stunk in new and depressing ways. I haven’t followed ANY of what’s going on for YEARS (decades?). It’s broke. Nobody from Hollywood or New York can fix it. And I don’t think anyone cares.

    • Replies: @vot tak
  137. @Bardon Kaldian

    Every Israeli female should have an Ethiopian Jew for a husband. Every Israeli male should be wife to a Muslim.

  138. Neoconned says:

    I was a Trekkie and a Star Wars nerd as a teen. I found the Star Wars prequels mildly entertaining but could never get into the Star Trek remakes. They were just undoable and too kitschy for my tastebuds.I even liked the Phantom Menace. It was fun for kids.

    Some of the actors were decent in that but attempted to re-invent the characters too much. I’ve never been a big fan of JJ Abrams.

    I found the job of the new Star Wars trilogy distasteful: how do you kill Han, Luke & Leia & make it look convincing? Not an easy thing to do. By the late 2000s or early 2010s I was done with most big tent pole movies. I was always a bigger Xmen fan than an Avengers fanboi so I just couldn’t ever get into the new Marvel crap either. And then now they’re doing every obscure Marvel character with their own film or Netflix series: Luke Cage & Black Widow? Really??

    I figure at this point due to social media bulls**t that these sorts of movies have to be “woke” enough to pass the censors at the corporate office. But it kills it for viewers like you and me. The internet really is a plague to quality writing.

  139. JackOH says:
    @Milesglorious

    Nurses are officers in the American military. There may be some exceptions I’m not aware of. It’s one of those deals where juridical empowerment of talented women in particular lines of work, such as the military, where male asshole-ness is an impediment to the mission in my opinion makes a lot of sense.

  140. Anon242 says:
    @Sparkon

    “Except that Dalton Trumbo was called but refused to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1947.
    Joseph McCarthy was a freshman senator in 1947, and had nothing to do with the HUAC. McCarthy’s Senate investigation was about Communist agents in the U.S. Government, not Hollywood.”

    Thanks for pointing that out. HUAC and McCarthy “ism” is often conflated when there is talk about Hollywood blacklist. BTW did you see the 2015 movie Trumbo? Opinion?

  141. mcohen says:

    We need to talk about the T question.

    That being the tump question.

    Will he be able to beam himself up or will he be beamed in November.
    Scotty nose that tump is orange but does classify as white,so will those who wish him well be prepared to change to orange.

    That’s right

    1.orange is the new white,on ST.

  142. vot tak says:
    @Vinnie O

    Your take comes close to matching my own. Saw the original when it was first run. Enjoyed the show, thought it was OK, but not a “trekkie”. Watched a few episodes of next gen. but found it flat, not very creative and boring. Like the rest of 1980s american television. Don’t think I managed to sit through a whole episode of deep space 9, thought it even less watchable. As for the later stuff, I’d given up watching american television by the time these came out, so never saw them.

  143. Great essay. This is why I no long watch this stuff. It’s gotten to where anything current sucks so badly that it is not worth the effort. Those clips were painful to watch.

  144. @Al Liguori

    Nimoy invented that on the set-he’d seen rabbis in his Boston Jewish neighborhood do it.

    That’s no secret, in later years Nimoy explained this.

    The screenwriters didn’t think that up, Nimoy improved it.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  145. @Hacienda

    Well then, what was Shatner’s persona?

    Seemed bluff and hearty to me.

    Whether in a slasher like “Visiting Hours” (Nobody will remember this, I am sure) or “Kingdom of the Spiders” (Some of you might remember that).

    How would Shatner’s persona be described?

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  146. fish says:
    @Stan Adams

    I’m glad your grandmother stayed your mothers hand.

  147. @Jeff Stryker

    Below, Leonard Nimoy, and the Jewish story behind Spock.

  148. Feryl says: • Website
    @fightapathy

    “For all the liberal activist messaging, the characters were indeed gripping and familiar and likable and honorable. The sets and stages were entertaining. The tech talk led to places in the script. It was an enjoyable ride, even if it included irritating leftist doctrine. Heck, I kept tuning each week, no matter how outrageous it became.”

    You could make a good argument that ST: the Next Gen was, and still is, some of the best produced TV ever done. The costumes, props, and visual effects still look pretty good (and recent re-masters upgraded some of the effects to be even better), and the sets were well above par for genre TV. The color film stock still looks great, esp. after HD re-mastering, whereas the 60’s show will always be plagued by the awful color film stock and camera equipment that was used for 60’s TV. The stuff produced since the late 2000’s will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80’s and 90’s produced.

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @anon
  149. Wally says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    – Bolshevik Bernie supporter ChuckOrlowski still clueless after all these years.

  150. Hacienda says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Only saw Shatner in ST and the Twilight Zone episode. Very underrated actor. If you mean Shatner in the roles he played, sure he’s man’s man. I never saw him that way because he’s playing a role specifically for boys. Too much mischief and dancing of eyes. I think it was one from his bag of actor’s tricks to draw the audience in. Nothing wrong with that, he made a fortune for himself and the franchise. And he’s still a spry 89, which is remarkable in itself. Good for him, and nice to have a star from my childhood still around.

    • Replies: @fish
  151. dfordoom says: • Website

    You have to remember that when Star Trek was conceived in the mid-60s its liberal technological utopian vision of the future seemed not only plausible but probable. At that time the evidence suggested that the liberal model was working and would go on working.

    It seemed likely that race relations would continue to improve gradually. Feminism was around but sounded pretty reasonable – if a girl wanted to be an engineer why shouldn’t she be able to do it? Why shouldn’t women have careers? The Sexual Revolution was already underway but it seemed like it was going to be generally a good thing. Censorship was loosening but in 1966 porn meant girlie magazines like Playboy which appeared to be (and in fact were) pretty innocuous. Social liberalism really did seem like a very good idea.

    In 1966 it seemed certain that prosperity would go on increasing. The idea that in a couple of centuries there would be so much prosperity that everyone could easily be given a fair share seemed almost certain. Technological progress seemed unstoppable.

    In 1966 nobody could have predicted the disasters that would wreck this scheme – the poisoning of race relations, increasing crime rates, the explosion of the drug culture, the trauma of the Vietnam War, the oil crisis. Nobody could have foreseen that so many women would abandon the idea of marriage and children altogether. Nobody could have foreseen that relations between men and women would become poisonous. Nobody could have foreseen the scale of the excesses that lead to the AIDS disaster.

    In retrospect we might think it was naïve but all the evidence at the time suggested that the optimism of Star Trek was justified.

    The problem was that when TNG hit the airwaves in 1987 liberals were still clinging to their optimism. But to be fair, in 1987 it still seemed possible that it might work despite the setbacks of the preceding 20 years..

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  152. Usura says:

    This rang true:

    […] the past, in many ways, was better than the present and probably will end up being better than the near future. That’s intolerable to a lot of political extremists, the very people who put us in this position in the first place. So, the past has to be destroyed; it serves as a foil to the current reigning madness. “Let the past die, kill it if you have to.” That’s why pop culture had to be denigrated. That’s why Star Trek is trash nowadays.

    I am reminded of the words of Roger Scruton:

    “One of the saddest things about the modern world, partly a result of television, is that people live in a tiny time slice of the present moment, which they carry forward with them, but nothing remains. And there’s nothing in their experience which reverberates down the centuries, because the centuries to them are completely dark, just un-illumined corridors from which they stagger into the single little sliver of light”.

    Related: in the last ten years of television there has been an obvious increase in the depiction of tribalism among whites. This started with Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Peaky Blinders, and recently the show Ozark uses the same formula. Often there are narratives of class re-union in these shows; the wealthy chemist or businessman befriends the local salt of the earth drug dealer, and they develop a synergy and prosper. Would any of these shows have been thinkable thirty years ago?

    It’s clear big money is aware of where the instincts of Netflix watching whites are headed; they want tribal unity, they are sick of being gutless pansies, they want to believe they are capable of violence and wresting destiny from the ether. These narratives are provided, but at the price of being poisoned: the show Peaky Blinders, for instance, after hooking whites with three seasons of heroic family struggle, and some genuine loving relationships, injects an explicit anti-fascist narrative, where the hero is made the foil of none other than Oswald Moseley. There are several scenes in the latest season where Moseley quotes the philosophy of Nietzsche, and the hero quotes back at him the psychology of Freud. I find it another instructive example of how white-positive messaging is used by media as a carrier for a neutralizing memetic enzyme.

  153. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Tom Delsan

    >>”Michael is a unisex name, like Leslie or Evelyn or Taylor.”

    Raise your hand if you’ve ever heard of a female named Michael prior to ST:D…. anyone?

    Michael Steele, bass player for The Bangles. There was also actress Michael Learned.

    It’s not a common girl’s name but it’s not that wildly uncommon either. Since girls named Michael are probably mostly going to refer to themselves as Miki or something similar it’s possibly more common than you think.

  154. H. E. says:

    I enjoyed the article but there was one omission on the original series I’d like to correct. There were four main characters not three as Divine Right said. Those four represented the four parts of the human psyche according to Jung. I’m convinced this was intentional on Roddenberry’s part.

    Spock was obviously the intellect. Bones, the doctor always reacted emotionally – so represents the emotions. Scotty ran the ship so he is the physical or body. Captain Kirk represents the spirit. In that light the Enterprise becomes the human psyche encountering life. Each episode represents a particular human experience.

    I learned this when I was watching the first season, and it gave a depth of meaning beyond just the adventure and technology. That’s almost unique in a TV series.
    Captain Kirk always consulted with at least one of the other three before making any important decision. They disagreed, often intensely – especially Bones and Spock – but ultimately acted as a unit.

    The characters were consistent throughout the original series. I recommend watching a few episodes to see if you agree. To me that subtle meaning behind the adventure is the quality that got lost along the way.

    • Replies: @Big Al
  155. Dumbo says:

    I never watched much of any of the several iterations of Star Trek. Maybe I just wasn’t that much of an sci-fi nerd, or I was born in the wrong time. But I can see the appeal of the older series, while the new ones… I don’t know who would watch that crap.

    Actually, films and series (and commercials!) with annoying bossy females and bumbling males are very common these days, not only in Star Trek. I doubt there is anything that people hate more. Men obviously hate that, but women don’t seem to like it either (what they really love is womanly women stories like Little Women or Sense and Sensibility).

    So who is the target public? Bitter lesbians?

    Seriously, NO ONE likes to watch bossy women and dumb men. It’s cringy. It’s anti-natural.

  156. @Peter D. Bredon

    > Times of Israel
    > Israeli press
    Nice job, linking a left-wing English-language CIA rag as “Israeli press”. Did you read the actual article, or only the title? The article opens with “let’s turn to Mahatma Gandhi, one of the greatest and wisest leaders in human history”! Pfui.

  157. @Anon242

    BTW did you see the 2015 movie Trumbo? Opinion?

    I saw Trumbo. Terrific performance by Brian Cranston, but I can’t get invested in a movie where the “hero” is a red.

  158. @dfordoom

    The problem is not that women abandoned children altogether, but that they had children out-of-wedlock as unwed teen mothers.

    Marriage disappeared, but kids on welfare increased.

    The original drugs like weak strains of marijuana were not really the problem. And heroin had been around for decades before the sixties. The problem was that the drug culture opened the door to crack cocaine and meth, which destroyed millions of lives.

    Its hard to believe how naive Americans are, Each invasion is estimated to last 10 days. Then it drags on for 10 years.

    The collateral damage is to allies who accept refugees. Australian is overrun by Vietnamese, for example.

    Crime has actually decreased. Not because minorities are better socialized, but because of prison sentences. Nowadays, criminals are caught and imprisoned sooner rather than later.

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  159. @Digital Samizdat

    It doesn’t seem to be all that derogatory. Googling the term brings up an Indian movie with that title, and a television series, as well, that uses the word in its title.

  160. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Feryl

    Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960’s-1990’s. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.

    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    I’m not arguing that the Sexual Revolution was harmless or that it was a good thing, merely pointing out that an argument that it was harmful has to be backed by evidence.

    The same applies to the Sexual Counter-Revolution (assuming that it’s real and not a media artifact) – an argument in its favour needs the backing of actual evidence. Does such evidence exist?

    • Replies: @Flubber
    , @Feryl
  161. “I am sad to say that Mr. Durocher’s description of Silicon Valley is outdated. I am at a prominent high-tech company, with decades in that business. Today, there is a quota for promoting women and Africans, at all technical grade levels, especially the upper ones. ”

    This might have some value i not were one little observation. That you believe that whites engaged in ,meritocracy even among themselves. I have no doubt that if not a sing;e black were a group of promotions — whites male and female would still be standing around looking at each other dumbfounded about the choices.

    • Replies: @anobserver
  162. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Stanislaw Lem, who leaves all others in the dust.

    I agree with you about Lem. Great writer.

    I think you’re a bit hard on science fiction. There’s science fiction and science fiction. Some of it is intelligent and cerebral, some of it is fun adventure stuff, some of it is trash. Since the 70s most TV and movie science fiction has been pretty awful. There were some extremely good science fiction movies in the 70s and even into the 80s – Colossus: The Forbin Project, Solaris (the original Russian one not the godawful Hollywood remake), The Andromeda Strain, the John Carpenter version of The Thing, Blade Runner, A Clockwork Orange. Even some of the lesser 70s sci-fi movies had their moments (Westworld, even Demon Seed).

    Star Trek TOS was mostly fun and occasionally clever and even quite thoughtful. There were some cringe-inducing episodes but mostly it was pretty good entertainment.

    TNG was dull and preachy and took itself too seriously. I really hated the TNG crew. Picard was a pompous ass. And having an empath aboard – dear God.

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  163. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    It would be more accurate to say that AIDS is a disease spread by sodomy. It is possible to catch it from vaginal sex, but it’s very very very unlikely. Degenerate heterosexuals who practise sodomy can however spread it.

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  164. fish says:
    @Hacienda

    Best thing about William Shatner is that he was very skilled at playing his favorite character…..William Shatner.

    • Agree: Hacienda
  165. @dfordoom

    Actually, its probably more easy to catch AIDS from an HIV positive woman through anal sex than an HIV positive male because a woman’s anus is smaller and more likely to tear.

    I recall back in 2004 an HIV positive porn actress infected two males during a “double anal” scene. She was aware that she had AIDS, in fact.

    So indeed, if you’re heterosexual and that far down into the rabbit hole of extreme sexual practices like “double anal” then indeed you’re much more likely to acquire AIDS.

    But most heterosexuals don’t have anal sex with strangers. Except prostitutes, of course. And many heterosexual men have contracted AIDS from them.

    What can you say, being a sexual degenerate will open you up to tremendous risks.

  166. @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes you are right. But in the case of white women, I have seen increasing promotions based on gender. There was always the odd promotion of a white male, based on the fact that he is well-connected, and well-liked. But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.

    I left out Hispanics: In many cases, these are essentially white (Spaniards), but with the politically-correct surname. I have perceived such males be promoted, in order to score a check mark in the “Hispanic” column of the quota ledger. All of this is an inevitable consequence of a society of groups with disparate capabilities, where the standards eventually decline to meet the mean.

  167. “But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.’

    You might want to re-read

    ‘The Myth of Meritocracy” and other similar writings; patronage, atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade offs . . . these have always been pat of the system and consider this, the entire of whites have lived primarily with a complete bar of access to most of black society —

    I had some other thoughts, but understanding what I do about meriticracy (assuming I am correct)

    laugh, I am going to tread lightly . . . there’s enough; scapegoating fear and panic as the result of leadership — nearly all white in these spaces as it is —-

    • Replies: @anobserver
  168. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Danny+Crane+Moments&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dDanny%2bCrane%2bMoments%26FORM%3dVDMHRS&view=detail&mid=649F99D58366D69C6188649F99D58366D69C6188&rvsmid=5DE385119AE27DA70ACC5DE385119AE27DA70ACC&FORM=VDQVAP

    And those roles in Twilight Zone and Star Trek will were essential in making Denny Crane.

    If the blacklist can avoid becoming smarmy — Mr James Spader . . . may know the same.

  169. @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes, but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs” may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity. In privately held concerns, this could be legitimately practiced, since that is part of the intent behind holding something privately –you can have your brother or wife sit on the board of directors.

    As to groups which keep complaining about racism, and white privileged, I have one question: What is stopping you from creating your own ecosystem of wealth and prosperity? Why don’t you do that, and keep it for yourselves. Do not even let any whites into it. We are waiting……….

  170. Sparkon says:

    Like most stuff on TV, Star Trek is best enjoyed with the sound muted as pleasant background ambience something like a tank of tropical fish.

    To its credit, Star Trek has an excellent color palette, so it works well that way.

    Come to think of it, doesn’t William Shatner somewhat resemble or make you think of a goldfish? Hmm… Patrick Stewart resembles a Moray eel in that light, but at least he aged well. Shatner’s appearance seems to have taken a plunge as he’s aged, although Beaver and Wally are the hands down winners in that category, but I thought they were both rather weird looking as child stars of the popular series to begin with. Now I enjoy the series mostly for regular looks at Barbara Billingsly.

    Getting into the spirit of taking Star Trek far too seriously, I decided to cast some familiar public celebrities to play the former stars in the series.

    First, notice that Chekov in the photo here appears to be something of a stuffed suit, so to say, where my choice for the part — former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev — is quite muscular, and certainly wouldn’t need any padding in his suit, but I think he makes an excellent Chekov.

    For Nyota Uruha, Hota Kotb. Try saying — or even typing — that several times quickly to get in the mood for this kind of adventure.

    I stuck with NBC’s Today show to pick Carson Daly for DeForrest Kelly, Bones.

    Jared Kushner as Spock, of course.

    I don’t know anyone with a good fake Scottish accent, so I’m stumped on a stand in for James Doohan as Scotty.

    And NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd as Shatner.

    To go boldly where no fake news has gone before.

  171. @dfordoom

    It is difficult to rate sci-fi films & series because they, more than other genres, are dependent on the cinema technology, so to speak.

    Even dramas from, say, 1950s, 60s, 70s…now seem, most of them, rather odd (dialogs, acting, …). Sci fi – even more. Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of. But- they lack guts, balls. And, they’re mostly illiterate, uncultured & dumb.

    What they have in abundance is almost compulsive urge to preach idiotic ultra-liberal gospel, something which has nothing to do with our reality or even projected “reality”.

    Shallow, false, fake, lying, cowardly, corrupt, sleazy… that’s how I would characterize modern movie sci fi.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  172. Bardon Kaldion said: “Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.”

    Hey Bardon!

    Re; your respectable opinion, above. A question. Ever see this sci-fi movie, “The Magician’s Nephew?” Trailer is linked below.

  173. Moses says:
    @Stan Adams

    Isn’t it funny how, as you get older, you end up longing for the days when you had nothing, when you pined after all the things that you have now?

    Great line.

    Right now, without getting up, I can watch any and every episode of any and every Star Trek episode ever made… But I’d give anything to be back in a time when I couldn’t watch any of them. I’d give anything to be back in a time when the highlight of my weekend was staying up late on Saturday night just to watch a tedious Voyager crapfest (in horrible over-the-air reception, to boot) that I’d already seen. I’d give anything not to have all the things I spent so many years hustling to get.

    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.

    As a teen I remember listening to the radio for hours just to catch a favorite hit song. It was always an exciting event. Same for the once-a-year Christmas specials or Wizard of Oz broadcasts.

    When everything is available, all the time, it loses its special value.

    Californians don’t value a beautiful, sunny summer day the way New Englanders do.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  174. Flubber says:
    @dfordoom

    Has lesbianism and porn made people happier?

    Well lesbianism doesn’t. Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  175. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of.

    Which is one of the reasons they make worse movies.

    • Replies: @songbird
  176. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Moses

    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.

    I’m not sure I agree. What gives things value is that they are things that we want. If you like a particular kind of chocolate bar it doesn’t matter if they’re in every store and they only cost 95 cents. If they have the exact kind of chocolatey goodness that you crave then they still have very high value.

    I found that when the movies and TV shows that I particularly liked suddenly became available on DVD and I could watch them whenever the hell I wanted to I grew to appreciate them a lot more.

    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  177. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Flubber

    Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    Indeed. I’ve known a lot of lesbians over the years. Amazing levels of domestic violence. Frightening.

  178. Ray P says:
    @Ray P

    In British army, nurses are NCOs starting at the rank of corporal. In Royal Navy, nurses start as sub-lieutenants. Star Fleet would likely follow navy practice. I note that the US Army has them as commissioned officers from the beginning.

  179. ” . . . but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs” may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity.”

    I am simply going to state — you are wrong. Hence the myth meritocracy. They are more tan a part of system they are long standing traditions of human behavior. I not partially correct, — it’s correct.

    I provided several references you should check if you haven’t ad have another go —-

    Here’s another avenue, take look at the revolving door of elite academic an corporate playgrounds. And compare that to performance. People who have gotten matters completely wrong in every way –remain in positions of power.

    Now on this matter of partial rightness this time.

    I take it you think I got something wrong previously — if so I usually note it — however, I am unfamiliar with what you thin I got wrong — you are welcome to enlighten me.

    maybe you too think anyone has the skill, knowledge and the money to paint their homes, and only lazy, shiftless blacks living on the dole are grifting . . .

    laugh. or that the solution to the black citizens role in the US is to import mexicans and asians — speaking of “wrong”.

    laugh good grief

    • Replies: @anobserver
  180. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @paranoid goy

    I don’t see the writer’s point. Is he complaining about his favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?

    The first line of text: “My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old”

    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  181. anon[637] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    I really think the non-white audience is the key to explaining the newer movies.

    That has certainly had an impact. I recall Steve Sailer once mentioning the demographics of the Lucas Star Wars prequels. Hispanics were only about 12% of the population then but 25% of the movie going audience. Changing demographics in the United States and globalization have led to an industry subsisting on the lowest common denominator. There’s not much room for sophistication in that environment.

  182. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    The stuff produced since the late 2000’s will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80’s and 90’s produced.

    I’m glad that someone else noticed this. The newer shows … look bad, despite the production values. There are chroma issues, color saturation issues, color casts everywhere, bizarre and uncomfortable lighting choices, lens flaring, etc. I find that’s an issue with a lot of movies these days.

  183. Dumbo says:

    Besides the bossy women / bumbling men, one thing that turns me off immediately from these new series, and unfortunately I see it all the time mostly in Netflix series, is the pairing of a white woman with a black man. It seems that Netflix does this in ALL series.

    I just now chose a random series, British, but produced by Netflix, and bang, just from the start, a blonde teenager with a crush on black dude. This can’t be a coincidence. And also, I suppose these series are targeted at women (even if they are sci-fi), because no white guy worth his salt wants to watch a anything with a blonde ni***r-fu***r . Unless it’s Othello, or a horror story about rape. (And even Othello was not a subsaharan African, but likely a northern African).

  184. I’m an old Star Trek fan, old enough to have watched the original series live on TV when I was a schoolboy. I’ve not watched more than a few episodes of the latest iterations, and find them almost unbearable. I could fill a long rant with specific complaints, but I’ll mention just one that I think is critical; Discovery and Picard lack the Promethean spirit so evident in the original Star Trek and in TNG. I guess it’s just another sad symptom of our declining civilization.

    BTW thanks for the spoiler about Picard’s ending. Now that I know it ends with Jean-Luc professing gay love for Data, I know the damn series is not worth wasting another minute on.

    • Agree: Black Picard
  185. Meanwhile, in the UK, there is Dr Who … Not only female but overturning the class structure too.

  186. @anobserver

    Your honour, I present in evidence the case of Hewlett Packard, as early as 1985 when the founders were still in control.

    There were people on the HP board who should have known better. Hackborn comes to mind.

    • Replies: @anobserver
  187. @Philip Owen

    Dear Mr. Owen,
    I am not familiar with the case of Mr. Hackborn. Would you please elaborate.
    Regards

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  188. JackOH says:

    FWIW-I probably saw all episodes of STOS as a youngster; maybe a dozen or so of STNG. Nothing of the other spin-offs. My interest in sci-fi pretty much waned by my late teens.

    William Shatner ought to beat out the late soul singer James Brown’s claim to be the hardest work man in show business. Shatner’s resume dates to the 1950s. He’s done all sorts of work with a lot of people, including that Esperanto language movie from the 1960s. He did a summer stock Arsenic and Old Lace in 1973 in my area. He’d yet to make serious Hollywood money, although he was just on the verge. If my memory’s okay, he was going through a divorce, and traveling in one of those campers that fit into pick-up truck beds. He presents that confident, cosmopolitan manner, but he’s earned it, too.

  189. @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: You are right when it comes to your run of the mill corporation, and Academia which we know is highly political. What I was referring to are the highly technical ranks in high-tech. In those ranks, a person’s history of achievement is well known to colleagues, and promotions based on gender or race (not merit) are easily recognizable.

    By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.

    • Replies: @anobserver
  190. @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: Another thing to keep in mind, is that before the so-called “Diversity” drives were introduced into high-tech, the mantra was always for competence and merit to be the bases for advancement, without discrimination. Albeit with some escapes, as you refer to.

    Today, however, so-called “Diversity” requires quotas for promotions, and even more heavy ones for hiring. Please check with any friends you might have in those fields, perhaps even someone in HR. So we went from a case where merit was the main stated and understood requirement, to one where merit is secondary, and quotas are unstated, but understood bases.

  191. Feryl says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism* and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    People are not happy right now, but that’s mostly because they don’t have good leadership, are alienated, etc. WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically . The Abrahamic religions have been right all along. But the neo-lib Right and the subversive Left are both delusional; the former has never recognized that rising inequality makes it impossible to sustain a family (or even have one at all), the latter still says that the destruction of the trad. family is an achievement.

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers**) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc. The Silent and Boomer generations had to constantly make up complete bull-shit about how “unhappy” everyone was when Lost and GI elders (who were born during the Gilded Age and came to reject Gilded Age libertine norms as older adults) were telling people to not do drugs, not sleep around, not get divorced, not give into passions, etc. Not surprisingly, later Gen X-ers and further generations are trying, to the opposition of today’s older adults, to re-build the behavioral boundaries that were shattered in the late 60’s and 70’s.

    *chicks can always get laid, but since the late 80’s they’ve been socialized to be afraid of “loser” or “dangerous” males. So their lustful urges are being directed at other girls to a much greater degree these days. And with ever rising inequality the situation isn’t going to improve.

    **These two generations were born during a time of rapid progress and wholesome culture, so of course they took it all for granted and presided over a transition toward chaos, decadence, etc. It’s been noted by many that our current problems began in earnest in the 1970’s and 80’s when the Silent Gen began to usurp the GI Gen (and the Silent Gen is still hanging on, BTW) while Boomers did virtually nothing to stop most of these bad trends.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  192. songbird says:
    @dfordoom

    I watched the first episode of STD just to see how bad it could be. Of course, it was terrible, but the look of it was as awful as the plot. Basically everything, from the alien make-up, to the ships, to the bridge. Good visual design was utterly lacking, and a lot of shots were too busy. To top it off, there was constant movement. The camera was moving, when people weren’t. It made me want to throw up.

    Why did they do this? Because TVs have high definition now and because it is easier to do effects like holograms.

    I bet anything you could feed films into some algorithm. Something that just worked on the level of images – simple, not complex AI. Something that could count quick cuts, or shaky cam. and you would see some curve that would correspond to the downturn of civilization, as it analyzed popular films from each year.

  193. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Feryl

    WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically .

    But is there hard evidence? Also bear in mind that people vary.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc.

    Again, actual objective evidence is required.

    Look, you’re probably right. But the problem for social conservatives is that they lack the hard objective evidence to back their case. Proving psychological harm is difficult. Proving social harm is incredibly difficult.

    I’m inclined to think that it’s a matter of balance. The Sexual Revolution may have been a positive thing, up to a point. Some loosening of sexual morals may have been healthy. It just went too far. I’m also inclined to think that being an incel is probably just as psychologically unhealthy as being promiscuous. It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    The waters have been muddied by the current trend towards irrational generational hatred. As far as some Millennials are concerned everything the Boomers did was wrong and bad (even though it was the Silent Generation that was responsible for the Sexual Revolution). So sex is bad because it’s a Boomer thing. And some Boomers are inclined to simply despise Millennials as whiny snowflakes.

    I personally think Millennials just need to drop their smartphones in the trash can and go outside and get some sunshine. I think social media may have done a lot more harm than the 1960s/1970s Sexual Revolution.

    But hard evidence on any of these points is in short supply.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  194. @dfordoom

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value? Scarcity may move the price, but the value of that thing remains the exact (subjective) same. A 4-pound hammer will crush your skull no matter what price you paid for it, see? Very important distinction that, value versus price.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Moses
  195. @anon

    I don’t see your point. Are you complaining about your favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?

  196. @Jeff Stryker

    My mother is older than my father. She had me when she was 33.

    My father has never been part of my life. I can count the number of times I’ve been in the same room with him on two hands. The last such meeting was well over twenty years ago.

  197. “By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.”

    Laugh. There have always been exceptions. Those exceptions are the rule. And a look at history regarding technical expertise will clear this matter, because thousands of skilled blacks could not even apply for positions in which they had skills qualifying them for posts. In fact, the country had no small number of riots when skilled blacks were hired and promoted. I hate to bring up those issues, but even I was unaware until some years ago, just how warped the system is —-

    [MORE]

    But that aside, the harping about meritocracy now being expressed because in the view of some those getting handed tickets are not white . . . just does not carry that much weight with me. Either the person hire can do the best job in said environment or they cannot . . . In the technical fields by definition, the skill set for such tests are more acute. But I can tell what the record demonstrates is that among the skilled blacks had have twice or more the expertise for any given position compare to their white counter parts — male or female. And the current environment – with varying degrees of intensity has very little to do with blacks — but the press by white women, who hijacked and bastardized whatever AA was to suppose to look like and accomplish in it conception. Sure standards were lowered but contrary to the mantra — they were lowered to accommodate white women — there just aren’t any tales of blacks breaking out in tears over lectures about disparity — but white women have certainly made their worries, fears and conniption fits weapons of economic warfare. And let’s be honest they have used those weapons against blacks more than their white counterparts and leveraged all the worst false images about blacks, especially black men to do so. And white men have been all too happy to oblige — meritocracy indeed.

    Good grief, even Gen George Washington was a claim jumper if one wants to bandy about the breakdown of the meritocracy. Well liked, respected, ambitious . . . skilled —- well, certainly not as a military commander.

    Considering the demographics of whites, the play should have been obvious, there are more white liberals and feminists and would be pretend conservative white women posing as ‘whatevers’ than there are for the entire black population. look, I support a merit based system, but I m not going to pretend for one minute that the country has held that as the a norm without the deep traditions of interplay for some other avenues.

    I would encourage you to the reading I suggested, even as reference material . . . the original systems for redress of violating the supposed merit based system you opine was not based on quotas for employment, that was all the machinations of white intellectuals and businesses who wanted a way out the historical model that demonstrated that had violated the law regarding equal access standards of equal opportunity when it dealing with minority populations namely two blacks and native americans . . . in reality brown hispanics had far fewer hurdles. In short a little bit if research uncovered that those population we out an out denied opportunity. The quota did not demand they be hired — though we have used that reasoning — it is entirely false. Nor did it demand that standards be lowered another false narrative. But upon looking at the civil rights legislation, the move intended to kill it did just the opposite, by adding women, it provided an escape and as the establishment does when it is soon to be held account — used that as an escape valve for the historical discrimination — by including women, the government and the private sector could consider white women as a “protected class” and could still dismiss blacks, which explains why white women corner the numbers when it comes to AA, the net avenue of escape of course has been to employ those who choose same sex expression — coming out has actually befitted the government and businesses, because they could now lay claim to being nondiscriminatory —-

    Ohhh tis a tangle web . . . . indeed.

    Furthermore, the assumption that said systems are employing less qualified because some examples appear that way — I really cannot respond to. In the eighties and ninties, there was a huge shift by women to focus on environment to accommodate the female perspective . . . uhhh, needless to say

    black men and the long standing press about how one should fear them become primary targets for the hostile environment workspaces — despite the white women hear me “roar” hallmark signature game rape stats —- there’s a golden olden played back some 600 years, still at work as background, crime stats, crime news, An nothing could be as valued as the Bell Curve a mishmash of very poor modeling using South African social structure — something I only recently considered but a smash hit if want to play the color card, bad modeling, poorly constructed testing . . . withstanding — so before i hop on the bandwagon, I hope you will excuse my dabble into reality.

    Speaking of IQ, I found it deeply interesting that you equate IQ with skill, experience, culture or having any relationship to nationality. Dr. Einstein was a wonder, but I understand, he could find central park without a guide. You bemoan the state of the country’s employment, apparently clueless as to which populations are introducing the dissipation of what it means to be a US citizen.

    It is frightening listening to people on my side of the aisle. With increasing frequency they are embracing the very practices that lead to the conditions an practices they express concern about. You think for one minute importing an Asian, or anyone else you claim of superior IQ is going to preserve the country.

    I have news for you, this country was forged by people of very low IQs’ IQ does not translate into national identity. In fact those cultures you want to import have as the base of their civilizations, the very base the country — the US fought to reject — a system base on class and castes systems.

    Ohhhh well . . . ,

    at least its on the record. There will be no mistaking what happened an how or why.

    Goodness gracious me ohh my.

    ——————————-

    “By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S.,”

    Don’t hedge, they are considered to have always had an IQ above the US whatever the mean . . .

    An yet, we remain in the superior position —- this may be on the wane —– but that wane to reverse that reality has a long way to go. Pretty simple this,

    US citizens first . . . in my view.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  198. @EliteCommInc.

    One should at least have the wherewithal to long for Brits — they are after all, they are our natural cultural cousins as to nationhood.

    God save the Queen . . .

  199. Dumbo says:
    @dfordoom

    It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    Incels and promiscuity are really just two sides of the same coin. With the destruction of general monogamy, you get more promiscuity for some, and inceldom for others.

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality, only within which “liberation” makes any sense anyway (what’s the point of “sexual liberation” if nothing is frowned upon, what’s the point of a “bacchanalia” if you don’t have a rigid moral structure on the other days).

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    The world post-corona is going to have even less sex and romance than ever.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  200. @SFG

    Israel has to fight wars? Didn’t get the news they finally deployed to Iraq.

  201. Wyatt Urp says:

    Hollywood has degenerated into garbage. There isn’t a single TV show I can watch anymore; they all look and sound the same. Lots of worthless dialogue that has nothing to do with the plot. Every hour-long show has a half-hour of such gibberish. They should go back to half-hour dramas. But no, they keep churning out 60-minute doctor, cop and lawyer shows (now firemen, too) despite the fact that they have been done a thousand times in the past, and (some) were far better than today’s crop of crap. Movies suck, too. There are perhaps five worth watching in a given year (and action trash like anything Marvel are not worth a nickel). Millennial morons are the target audience, so they have become the chuckleheads in charge.

  202. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality

    Sort of, although traditional morality could be pretty unpleasant. People have a lot of romantic notions about how great traditional societies were. They were actually in most cases pretty miserable.

    I think something halfway between the morality of the Victorian era and the post-Sexual Revolution morality is what is needed. Not a free-for-all of indulgence and excess, but not pious moralising and rigidity either.

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Maybe the 1920s weren’t too bad. And the early 60s. Most people got married and had kids but those who wanted casual sex or open marriages or wanted to cohabit without marriage could do so as long as they were fairly discreet about it and didn’t rub other people’s noses in it. One-size-fits-all moral systems don’t work because one size doesn’t fit all.

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    Social media and internet addiction, and smartphones, have probably been more harmful than the Sexual Revolution. Social media needs to die.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  203. Dumbo says:
    @dfordoom

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Glad to know that you know “what we need” better than ~2,000 years of European history…

    “Guilt and sin”, like the poor, will always be with us and predate Christianity.

    I think we just forgot what we knew before, and we are very slowly relearning it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  204. “And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.”

    Laugh.

    just a word:

    Christianity obsesses about sin, guilt, accountability, forgiveness, multiple chances and grace, avoiding sin and

    always, always about redemption, hope and love in this and the next

    Justin case because your comments suggests that you don’t really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.

    you’re not alone . . . in your misconceptions

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  205. a_german_ says:

    Problem is you cant send an endless row of remakes without boring the fans. So you must take what modern times will give you. FemoNazis and ecologyfacists.

    Next the Enterprise is driven with wind, biogas and solar energy.

    And with Cpt. Greta Kørk.

    It’s astounding
    Time is fleeting
    Madness takes it’s toll

    But listen closely
    Not for very much longer
    I’ve got to keep control

    Let’s do the time-warp again

    Rocky Horror

  206. Moses says:
    @paranoid goy

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value?

    Oh brother. You guys sound like spergy libertarians.

    Of course you must value a thing for it to have any value, fer cryin’ out loud.

    Scarcity of a thing increases the value you place on each marginal unit. Abundance decreases it.

    Marginal utility. Look it up.

    I don’t value scarce toy collectibles because I don’t give a crap about toy collectibles in the first place. I do value a fine day more than when I lived in CA because there are far fewer of them where I live now.

    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  207. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Glad to know that you know “what we need” better than ~2,000 years of European history…

    It’s easy to have romantic notions about the past. It’s also easy, living today in a world of degeneracy and excess and self-indulgence, to have romantic notions about how wonderful it must have been to live in a Christian society.

    The fact is that none of us today have any actual experience of living in a society based rigidly on Christian moral values. We haven’t lived in a society in which Christians have actually had the power to impose their values by force. But history does teach us that Christians have been pretty keen on imposing their moral values by force. I’m suggesting that the reality of such societies was probably not all that pleasant. And at times very unpleasant indeed.

    And since Christians have not had that kind of power for a long time it’s easy to make the mistake of assuming that Christianity would never go back to being a persecuting religion. I’m not convinced. History also teaches us that if you give any group of people the power to persecute others they’ll grab that chance with both hands.

    Modern Christianity seems warm and friendly and cuddly because it’s powerless. Christians are no trouble as long as they don’t have any real power. But I’ve seen Christians right here on UR express enthusiasm for social policies that the 17th century Puritans would have considered extreme. Christianity has a very dark side to it.

    If Christians want to live by Christian moral values that’s fine by me. But I don’t want them to impose those values on everyone else. Which they have a long track record of doing.

  208. dfordoom says: • Website
    @EliteCommInc.

    Just in case because your comments suggests that you don’t really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.

    Maybe I know too much about what it’s about. I know it isn’t always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn’t always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flags. It has an excessively nice caring and sharing side (which can be disastrous) and an excessively nasty side (which can be disastrous). It’s an emotion-driven religion. And emotions can drive people to be Mother Theresas or Torquemadas. Emotions can drive people to be too forgiving, or rigidly unforgiving.

    A highly developed sense of sin can make one person humble, and it can make another person a merciless persecutor. It can make one person want to clasp sinners to his bosom and make another want to kindle a fire to burn those sinners.

  209. Sunshine says:
    @Jedi Night

    DS9 is my favorite Star Trek series. It really is extremely well done. Gul Dukat is one of, if not the best, villain of all time. Watching him is just sublime. Wait til you get to the later seasons, with the Dominion War and other stuff (hopefully won’t spoiler anything by mentioning that!).

    I think it’s the perfect mix of action, traditional Star Trek values, and interesting, but not overly emotional or agenda pushing, character development. And I say this as a person that isn’t a big media consumer, but I do love Star Trek. Haven’t watched any of the new shows since Enterprise, which was terrible. It’s sad how much worse it’s gotten. Not that I’d watch it, but Andrew Anglin does some interesting reviews on “Picard”, so I know more than I need to know. It’s a real shame but not surprising, that they ruined it. Anyways, hope you enjoy DS9!

  210. @Moses

    Internal consistency of argument is a valued habit every keyboard philosopher should aspire to. You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable” does not influence its value, only the price. I bet after a turkey dinner that leaves you bloated and pie-eyed, that very same chocolatey goodness will have severely diminished value. Maybe we are confusing ‘value’ with ‘pleasure’?
    Going by the wiki on ‘marginal utility’, either you are being funny, or irrelevant to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that “scarcity brings value”. Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity? Different issue altogether.
    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”? Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    • Replies: @Moses
  211. @SFG

    Yep, the Israeli army sure is a manly bunch…
    It is also a fact that every army is well populated by erm… people unsure about their gender projection? Shiny buttons on tailored uniforms, and they give you a big gun! Imagine living amongst hundreds, thousands of glistening young physiques, for pay, and you get to kill lesser shits, too. The little boys polishing armour and sweeping the campaign tent is also a standard feature of military bases.
    I think it’s on this thread that someone mentioned the abhorrent levels of domestic violence amongst lesbians? It is no different between queers, let me tell you, the poor things. That may explain the barbaric brutality of the average IDF gunmonkey. The need to prove your manhood can overwhelm your human-hood, it seems.

  212. “Maybe I know too much about what it’s about. I know it isn’t always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn’t always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flag . . . et al.”

    Allow me to amend my earlier comment. It’s very clear that you have no idea what Christianity is about.

    Rainbow flags — Oy veh.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  213. Ferengi were supposed to represent ‘capitalism.’

    Roddenberry was no stranger to Chosenism.

    https://trekmovie.com/2008/06/02/shatner-roddenberry-was-a-chiseler/

  214. @Mr. Grey

    white males in any prominent role must follow the 3-C rule. The must be either Crippled (emotionally or physically), a Coward, or a Criminal.

    Well, now you know how typical law abiding Main Street blacks feel about always being portrayed (for so long!) as pimps, slaves, janitors, drug dealers, gangster thugs, baby producing womanizers, wife beaters & physically strong ballers but intellectually challenged?

    Relax, it’s just “make believe”. No harm done…just “acting”.
    Right? 👀🤔

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
  215. The show’s lead is a black woman who’s the best at everything, acts bizarrely hostile towards the crew and later berates the male commanding officer, captain Pike,,,

    Wow, Star Trek has definitely gone downhill. I prefer my good ol’ TNG series. I’m shocked Patrick Stewart would ruin his amazing Captain Jean-Luc Picard persona with this crap. Must be Dementia.

    Note how the SJW/ZioPress media has done a remarkable job at fracturing the black male/black female bond by deliberately elevating the always feisty bossy independent black woman on a greater scale while encouraging an “I don’t need a man!” ethos which creates friction & disunity in the troubled black community. So what happens next?

    Well, today’s educated career black woman – feeling empowered – believes she can raise black male kids all by her lonesome self cuz she’s been brainwashed to think that “I’m strong, I don’t need a man!” Fast forward 14 years later & a majority of these fatherless teen black males are growing up in dysfunctional conditions with momma going through many unstable relationships while “baby boy” is being influenced by the most destructive form of ghetto Hip Hop/Rap culture in existence.

    I’d wager that this new pro-SJW Star Trek Discovery series has a bigger black female audience compared to TNG thanks to the perfect sista, Michael Burnham. End result is that black males will most likely find black women more intolerable which will probably lead them right into the arms of white or Aisan women who, well, are not as bossy as the stereotypical black woman. So society is definitely getting “programmed” whether one wants to believe it or not.

  216. @anobserver

    Dick Hackborn was/is a long term HP engineer who knew the company inside out and backwards. His real contribution was to take HP into the computer business in the first place. He understood how the corporation worked. He then seemed to sit back and let the board make appointments based on political correctness rather than competence. Fiorina for example did not sem to understand that HP product divisions were profit centres rather than as AT&T, sales groups were profit centres. Fiorina also went for large acquisitions which were a total No No under Bill & Dave. HP became a rag bag of failing IT hardware companies with incompatible and multifarious products, operating systems and internal cultures supported by the printer division. The obvious choice to take over HP, Rick Belluzo, rightly left and was slightly later appointed COO of Microsoft. He delivered the X-Box. Belluzo was a keen soccer fan, hence HP sponsored soccer for a generation.

  217. Mr. Grey says:
    @Black Picard

    It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions. It’s probably because they don’t know any. You don’t see the pimps and gangsters so much but now they are all magic negroes, living to help the white lead character navigate the choppy waters of life. We like characters that are complicated, have flaws, overcome failings, etc and portraying a black character that way could be taken a raaay-cist. A great recent example was The Invisible Man starring Elizabeth Moss. After running away from her abusive boyfriend she stays at the home of a black cop. He somehow is a close friend of hers, although we never learn why. We don’t learn much at all about him except he is a single dad with a smart teenage daughter, and he speaks just enough ghetto slang to show he’s authentic. Both of them seem to exist only to be there for Moss during her times of trouble. You would think he would be busy with his job as a cop and father, but somehow he is always there, immediately, whenever Moss is in trouble. It’s almost magical in a way.

  218. “It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions.”

    Utterly and incompetently unaware of films as portrayed by and about blacks for the last 120 years. just nonsense.

    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.

    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else will to siphon US value.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  219. @EliteCommInc.

    Excuse me some clean up here.

    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.

    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal with black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else who will siphon US value.

    ———————————-

    Clearly a small percentage of blacks are: pimps, prostitutes, thieves, murderers and knaves of various varieties, as are whites, browns, yellows, reds, etc.

  220. @EliteCommInc.

    🏳️‍🌈

    This is a meme promulgated by fake SJW churches and fake woke media.

    It has nothing to do with the Gospel of Christ or the Church created on Pentecost Sunday.

    Also, born-again Christians do not obscess over sin and guilt. They are freed from them through Christ’s victory on the cross. “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matt. 11:28-30 NKJV

    ✝️

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  221. Big Al says:

    A little off topic but I learned an astounding fact a few months back- James Doohan “Scotty” was shot six times on D-Day.

  222. @SeekerofthePresence

    while I am ever careful regarding my fellows in Christ . . .

    your comments elicit no rebuttal from me.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  223. @EliteCommInc.

    Your comments were very well stated.

    Should probably have addressed mine directly to dfordoom, but couldn’t resist responding to the classic, “Rainbow flags — Oy veh.”

    Look forward to more of your incisive posts in the Christian Spirit.

  224. “Look forward to more of your incisive posts in the Christian Spirit.”

    How very generous . . .

  225. @Realist

    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. Their hundreds of “Rules of Acquisition” had some ethical elements along with pragmatic devices for getting the better of a deal. I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism. I am shocked to see that Patrick Stewart would agree to play the Picard character in this last disgraceful rendition. Sickening. I don’t watch these shows.

    • Replies: @dvorak
  226. dvorak says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But male homosexuality is, historically, also militaristic & brutal.

    Don’t conflate that with being queer. Greek homosexuality was pretty weird by our lights, but it was practiced by the elite, i.e. biologically straight men. Queers are a small minority of any population, biologically 3% or so.

  227. dvorak says:
    @Memehunter

    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. … I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism.

    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects. The history stopped when progessive Jews and progressive WASPs merged in their mores, culture and philosophy, in the mid-century time period.

    Whether you think that WASPs converted to Holocaustianity or that Jews converted to Quakerism, depends on how you read your Moldbug/Yarvin.

    • Replies: @dvorak
  228. ” . . . minority of any population, biologically 3% or so.”

    This is a behavioral construct and no evidence it has a biological determinant.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  229. Check this insightful review out, Guillaume. These fcuking Hollyweird soyboy “producers” just don’t know when to leave well alone. They’re ruined Star Trek!

    Why Star Trek Picard FAILED

    So, I won’t even bother to watch any of these new Star Trek series while I’m over here on the dark continent. I’ll just get my East African girlfriend into TNG since I have all the episodes. This will be my test to see if she’s wife material.

    If she likes it, we’re kool. If she doesn’t “get it”, then I’m fcuking showing her the door. Well, after a few more years of dating cuz she’s pretty hot. 😉

  230. Sulu says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Got a problem with it?

    Sulu

  231. Moses says:
    @paranoid goy

    I really don’t know where to begin on this idiotic comment.

    You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable” does not influence its value, only the price.

    Ermm…price is a measurement of value to someone? Is maybe that’s just crazy talk.

    Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity?

    “Marginal utility quantifies the added satisfaction a consumer garners from consuming additional units of goods or services.”

    If an items is scarce then by definition you can’t consume a lot of it and thus its marginal consumption value remains high. Diamonds and de Beers come to mind.

    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”? Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    Yes I read it. It sucked balls. Most overrated, worst written, most pretentious book I’ve read in my life.

    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  232. @Moses

    As I said, you know not the difference between price and value. Then you use de Beers’ diamonds as an example. Oy, boy, de Beers sure have the monopoly on a scarce resource. That’s why half the armies in Africa are dying and killing for control of the diamond fields. Fields, the moment de Beers lose their military protection, diamonds will sell per kilo. Diamonds is the most idiotic, protected contraband mafia example you could possibly choose in my presence, I actually know first-hand about the “scarcity” of diamonds. From behind the barrel of a frigging gun!
    Just to be sure, de Beers has so much clout, they stopped the Russians from flooding the market about a decade ago…”Blood diamond” is any stone not sold via de Beers. Any.
    Then, of course, beyond making good drill points and abrasive tools, what is the value of a diamond? The price varies with many parameters, the value remains that of a drill bit.
    Price, my good man, is not value.
    You could. of course, use diamonds to attract a mate, and the higher price you pay, the fancier that mate may be. The value of someone that runs after diamonds, on the other hand…

  233. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Star Trek lived and died with Gene Roddenberry. Its that simple.
    As long as he was the Executive Producer of TNG you could watch that show. Once Rick Berman took over, everything was screwed.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  234. Lothric says:
    @Feric Jaggar

    I think it’s still clear the ferengi are meant to be Jewish. Perhaps it’s a play on the fact that many negative characteristics foreigners attribute to westerners actually stem from jews. For instance there is a Greek term still in use “ferengios” which basically means genuine trustworthiness. Which is what you would expect of genuine western races.

  235. dvorak says:
    @dvorak

    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects.

    Then there are the goblins in the Gringotts Wizarding Bank – Harry Potter books.

  236. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    TNG got much better in its later seasons, after Roddenberry was no longer involved. Similarly, the best Trek movie, Star Trek II, was hated by Roddenberry, who tried to sabotage it by leaking Spock’s death (Kirk’s line after Spock “dies” during the Kobayashi Maru simulation, “I thought you were dead”, was an allusion to this.).

  237. Starmag says:

    The study found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as homosexual and 0.9% as bisexual. For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as lesbian and 1.4% as bisexual.

    https://factsandtrends.net/2019/04/15/how-many-americans-actually-identify-as-lgbt-less-than-you-think/

  238. HAL_2000 says:

    When I was so young that my feet barely cleared the couch cushions, I saw the first run of A Taste of Armageddon. Amazingly, it was in color, since it was on my uncle’s brand new color tv. We only had a black and white at home.

    But STAR TREK, (TOS) was very much a creature of its day. The characters could have been lifted from a Western (indeed, they hired a writer from Wild Wild West). The Captain and his men were manly men, to be watched and acknowledged as such of an audience of men who’d been to war, be it WWII or the Korean War, perhaps even Vietnam.

    The manner in which the men carried themselves, and even the women, could have been found in Wagon Train or Gunsmoke. No limp wrists or lisping allowed, save for an occasional comic foil.

    The females were all female, and the opposites were opposites and attracted.

    There was no political correctness, although Roddenberry considered himself to be pushing the envelope with things like the first TV interracial kiss. He stated that the show was basically an allegory of the Cold War that America was dealing with at the time.

    I noticed that Kirk would *negotiate* and/or bluff, such as in the Corbomite Maneuver, or By Any Other Name, and would express the philosophy that, sure, we could make war, but not today. The spinoffs would have more space battles than I ever recall happening in TOS, perhaps thinking that the special effects would make up for the paff that passes for dialog or a soggy story line.

    So the men were men in TOS, aside from some of the villains, like the Squire of Gothos, and others who were squishy and conniving, like Harry Mudd.

    Kirk was square jawed and manly. Mostly serious, as were his best friends, with humor reserved for the closing ten seconds of the show.

    But ALL subsequent spinoffs repelled me. All had the stink of the new political correctness on them. Like Mr. Atos, the Librarian, I found comfort in relieving the past in the form of reruns, rather than face the disappointing or nauseating present.

    After Kirk, Star Trek has been dead to me.

    And there I have left it.

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