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Bad news for southern Europe. It looks like coronavirus will further entrench the European Union’s long-standing disparities between north and south.

According to the European Commission’s estimates, the economies of Italy, Spain, and Greece will all shrink over 9%. By comparison, the EU average is 7.4%. France will shrink 8.2%, while most Nordic/Germanic countries will shrink less than 6.5% (that’s Germany, the Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Finland).

EU unemployment expected to rise from 6.7% to to 9% this year. Unemployment will rise to 9.7% in Portugal, 10.1% in France, 11.8% in Italy, 18.9% in Spain, and 19.9% in Greece. Germany will have 4%.

Deficits are going through the roof, from 0.6% of GDP in 2019 to 8.3% this year. Debt will rise to over102% of GDP, with huge disparities: over 115% for Spain and France, and almost 160% for Italy and 200% for Greece. By contrast, Germany’s debt will rise to 75% of GDP and Great Britain’s to 102%.

In terms of jobs and debt reduction, all of the hard-won gains of the past five years or so have been annihilated.

Nominal GDP per capita (in euros) in selected European countries (source: Eurostat). Italy and Greece never recovered the standards of living of the early 2000s. Note France and Germany decoupling since 2010.
Nominal GDP per capita (in euros) in selected European countries (source: Eurostat). Italy and Greece never recovered the standards of living of the early 2000s. Note France and Germany decoupling since 2010.
Unemployment (%) in selected European countries (source: Eurostat). Southern European countries never recovered from the 2010 eurozone crisis. Notice that France’s performance has been noticeably worse than Germany’s and Britain’s since then as well.
Unemployment (%) in selected European countries (source: Eurostat). Southern European countries never recovered from the 2010 eurozone crisis. Notice that France’s performance has been noticeably worse than Germany’s and Britain’s since then as well.

Macroeconomically, France is now effectively part of southern Europe. From around 1965 to 2000, France was, uncharacteristically, significantly richer than Britain. In the 90s, France was about as rich as Germany, which was then hobbled by the annexation of formerly communist eastern Germany. Today, not having its own currency (unlike Britain) and having an enormous welfare and overregulated labor market (relative to Germany), there is no denying that France is falling behind.

Even before the COVID recession, southern Europe was barely on track for slowly growing out of debt. Now these hopes are completely dashed.

The economic disparities between northern and southern Europe – which have been manifest at least since the late nineteenth century and particularly since the Second World War – are going to become deeply entrenched.

This is part of the reason that I am skeptical of short or even medium term race war scenarios in Western Europe. The fact is that the most diverse and, most often, zealously diversitarian parts of the Western world – Germany, the Netherlands, the Nordic countries, Great Britain, the United States, and the former White Dominions, mostly of north-west European and Germanic background – continue to be more economically dynamic.

Northern Europe and its colonial offshoots continue to be better at creating economic wealth – despite being hobbled by African, Islamic, and Hispanic minority populations which represent an economic drag relative to the natives – than comparatively homogeneous southern European nations and their colonial offshoots (namely the Whitish nations of Argentina and Chile, which have a fair amount of Amerindian blood).

In the 90s and early 2000s, the European Union could still confidently hope that, despite considerable inequalities, its nations would gradually converge to the same standard of living and level of development.

These hopes were encouraged by peculiarly Boomer assumptions: that wealth grows on trees and everyone is equal. When the euro common currency was created in 1999-2002, the European Central Bank declared that the public debt of southern European countries was just as credit-worthy as that of Germany and investments in them were effectively be subsidized. German and, especially, French banks jumped at the opportunity make massive investments in southern Europe, leading in particular to a hypertrophied public sector in Greece and a huge property bubble in Spain. The bubble burst circa 2010.

All this has great political ramifications. The scale of the economic disaster in southern Europe is presumably why German Chancellor Angela Merkel agreed to a remarkable doubling of the EU budget by €500 billion over the next three years, raising EU loans to fund transfers to countries hit by coronavirus, particularly southern Europe.

This improvized quasi-federal scheme is quite unprecedented, in terms of speed and scale, in EU history. As Jean Quatremer observes, given that the new budget would be financed by relatively painless loans, European leaders may have strong incentives to resort again to such plans in order to find the concluding fudge during their interminable summit negotiations.

Significantly, it appears that the German establishment – not counting the German Constitutional Court – has basically accepted the ECB’s adoption of Anglo-style mass lending to shore up the economy. If continued indefinitely, this will presumably prevent a 2010-11-style financial panic in southern Europe, but this has controversial redistributionary and inflationary implications in the medium term.

Today, even not accounting for highly-fertile immigrants, northern Europe’s fertility seems to be somewhat higher than that of southern and eastern Europe, I suspect because (potential) parents enjoy superior childcare/welfare services and higher/more secure incomes in northern Europe.

If southern Europe does not recover economically, we can expect continued depopulation as their fertility rates remain depressed and their more enterprising youth, particularly the educated, head north. These nations’ financial and political dependence on the north will grow. North-European economies will of course benefit from the inflow of southern European immigrants, partly counteracting the effects of Afro-Islamic immigration.

Politically, we have fertile ground for instability. The Macron régime is already barely able to keep the more uppity elements of the (neo-)French population – whether white gilets-jaunes or Afro-Islamic BLM marchers – at bay.

Italy looks to be on the verge of explosion. Both the political establishment and the people at large are becoming anti-EU. The inchoate populist-leftoid Five-Sar Movement has collapsed. Matteo Salvini’s nationalist Lega is being outflanked . . . by the even more nationalist Brothers of Italy.

Imagine that the euro-globalist establishment in these countries will now have to manage these pressures with additional grinding years of mass unemployment and belt-tightening. Italy has strong prospects for decisively flipping to a national-populist regime in the coming years and joining the ranks of Visegrád. (I am less optimistic for France.)

In the long run, I am talking 30-40 years, we can expect that northern Europe will become so dysfunctional that people prefer living in southern or eastern Europe. Non-Whites currently make up around 20% of the north-west European population. When this rises to 40 or 50%, we can expect the situation to get very unstable indeed.

Hopefully, by then , the southern and eastern Europeans will have taken note of their brethren’s mistakes and start taking the necessary measures. I mean the adoption of enlightened biopolitics: the preservation their ethno-national identities (accepting only assimilable immigrants, including fellow Europeans) and systematic policies to ensure their nations reproduce and, more than that, do so with a view to improving genetic and phenotypic quality. European nations will be so marginal in the world by then that we will really have no room for yet more excuses, delusions, and half-measures.

 
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  1. Svevlad says:

    30 to 40? I give it 20, tops

    North European economies are extremely globalized. It takes one link to snap (like America) and suddenly they’re basically deleted from existence

  2. Spain is astonishingly stable and quiet, but people are used to suffering. The same is true for Greece. Italy is a bit better off, ok, but the industrial basis is eroding day in day out (cars, furniture, machinery – all is in decline. Litlle delivery vans – for decades a quasi-monopoly for Fiat, is now taken over more and more by Korean brands…. What the north is concerned – it’s hard to make predictions and France is in between.
    Visegrad countries are on the rise. Right near my house at the lake of Constance, there are working around 30 people from Poland, Bulgaria, Czechia on a strawberry field. They work 9-hour shifts, Saturdays and at times even Sundays too and are tired and all-right. They earn 9 Euros/hour.

  3. The EU was always founded on the false assumption that every country in Europe is similar simply on the basis of being on the same continent and being largely white in character(even though some nations in the Caucasus mountains and central Asia like Tajikstan have very European looking people but in culture very different from the European ideal) The Greeks or the Portuguese were never going to have much in common with the Swedes or Finns to form a common union, their values are different enough that they often fail to agree on key things like how much are people taxed? how long are the kids summer holidays? or is it acceptable to party in the streets at 2am? Southern Europeans have for long been keen to stay in the EU, they always want to be associated with the prosperity and high culture of central Europe, not the corruption and medieval culture that plagues Africa and the middle east.

    Northern and central Europeans on the other hand have always been more Eurosceptic whatever the surveys say about Italians wanting to leave the EU(most of the time they don’t) as they have always felt quite wisely that there is no common European culture as seen by how differently Mediterranean peoples act from their own and how different their values often are.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  4. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Sounds pretty grim.
    1.) My economic understanding is limited, but what are the possibilities for some sort of debt cuts? It seems like Italy will never be able to grow out of its debt burden contracted decades ago, even though its fiscal balance apart from debt service isn’t that bad. Such a situation can’t be justified forever without serious political instability (I don’t comment on the other southern European countries, because tbh Spain, Portugal and Greece aren’t nearly as important as Italy which is a major industrial economy and key EU country after all).
    2.) How bad is the situation with the welfare system and overregulation in France? Could you expand on that subject?
    3.) I don’t believe the increasing dysfunctionality of Northern Europe will redound to the benefit of the South in 30-40 years. Nobody knows how bad climate change will be, but it’s likely to have serious effects on Italy, Spain and Greece. These countries are also right in the way of the coming African population tsunami. The Catholic church also still retains considerable influence in Italy at least, and we know it’s become one of the major promoters of mass immigration. It’s hard to see how those trends could turn out well for Southern Europe.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @refl
  5. Portugal is a very diverse country nowadays. Since the 2010’s we are receiving hundreds of thousands of non-EU immigrants. I would say that our society is already 1/3 European white, 1/3 Black, 1/3 Brazilian. We are far from an homogenous country. Our prime minister is Indian, our Justice minister is African and we have more two ministers from India. Don’t count on us.

  6. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:

    The funny thing is that China, which originated this fucking virus, is recovering quickly from it, and will soon be back to normal, that is growing at a rate-of-knots and dominating the world economically, financially and scientifically.
    Not to put too fine a point upon it, the decline of the EU is more or less the mirror image of the rise of China, enhanced, no doubt, by the Economist/elitist push toward globalization.

    So, basically, after sickening Europe, China has run away with the EU’s loot, laughing all the way to the bank.
    And the EU dictatorship keeps pushing the same tired old failed policies right until the last ethnic European dies of despair.

  7. Italy has strong prospects for decisively flipping to a national-populist regime in the coming years and joining the ranks of Visegrád. (I am less optimistic for France.)

    A lot depends on the 2022 presidential election. Can Marine Le Pen win this time?

    All it needs is one Western European country to end mass immigration from the Third World. The “liberal” predictions are either that such a country would collapse, or its citizens would start building gas chambers. When these grim outcomes fail to materialise, the entire Western world will realise that we have been told lies, and will choose more sensible immigration policies.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  8. @James N. Kennett

    Probably not, really. (And I say that as someone who thought both Brexit and Trump were possible.)

    • Replies: @Z-man
  9. LondonBob says:
    @Svevlad

    The US imploding and its impact that will have on Europe is the next question. Certainly a Democrat sweep in Novemebr would have a dramatic impact on the financial markets.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  10. @João Antunes

    Every time i went to Lisbon it looked very white to me. Your estimations look completely way off . Portugal’s non-white population must be around 10% of the total pop. at most.

    • Replies: @João Antunes
    , @HammerJack
  11. hulijo says:
    @Svevlad

    I’d put it at 5-10 years at the most. It can also happen literally tomorrow. Northern Europe has managed to replenish its workforce during the last 10-15 years with EE immigrants but that card has been played and can’t be repeated. Those EE countries also have ageing populations, there is very little youth left there. At the same time masses of NE boomers are going to retire in the next 5-10 years. Who’s going to replace them? Arabs, other Muslims and Blacks simply aren’t going to be the workers needed to keep the show going.

    What is much more likely is that in the next decade there will be another (or several) major crises in Africa and the Middle East which will once again bring millions of migrants on Europe’s doorstep. At that point, either someone who is ready and willing to sink every boat trying to reach Europe takes over or Europe collapses.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  12. How long until another big country leaves the EU? I say Italy is out within ten years.

  13. @Swarthy Greek

    Take the train from Lisbon to Sintra in the final of a weak day. There is a brutal ethnic segregation in the Lisbon metropolitan area.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  14. Levtraro says:
    @Anonymous

    I recent study found the virus in sewage frozen in March 2019 in the city of Barcelona. That is strong evidence against the hypothesis of a Chinese origin of the virus.

    https://www.ub.edu/web/ub/es/menu_eines/noticies/2020/06/042.html

    • Agree: Alfred, Theophrastus
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  15. Levtraro says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    When you compare a Greek with a Swede and both with a Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, you see how culturally close the Spaniard is to the Swede, and those Maghrebis are close to Europe compared to Arabs, black Africans. In fact peoples from western and eastern, northern and southern Europe are very close in culture. They can form a union as they’ve done and it may work. If it fails it will be because of other reasons, not because of cultural differences.

    • Replies: @Oliver Elkington
    , @Svigor
  16. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @João Antunes

    Brazilians – mostly of mixed race – with Portuguese passports, are currently flooding the UK.

  17. Pericles says:
    @anon

    Italy, Spain and Greece. These countries are also right in the way of the coming African population tsunami.

    I believe there have been quiet migrant-blocking deals between Spain and Morocco and likewise Italy and Libya (until that unfortunate event that just happened for no reason at all). These actually worked well at the time.

    France should make a similar deal with Algeria and start the repatriation. Take back Marseilles.

    Not sure what Turkey wants out of their policy, they seem a bit indecisive and chaotic. If you buy them off, will they stay bought? Probably not. Erdogan seems a bit too ambitious for that.

    • Agree: Svigor
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
  18. @Levtraro

    Is that not more of a religious thing more than anything, being partly Spanish myself i often feel i have more in common with middle easterners than i do with northern Europeans, maybe it is the reserved nature of the latter but i just find it easier to get on with Mediterranean people whether they are from the European or African/Asian coasts. I bet you if North Africans were Christian they would certainly have more in common with Mediterranean Europeans.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Anonymous
    , @Miro23
  19. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    If you buy them off, will they stay bought? Probably not. Erdogan seems a bit too ambitious for that.

    An agreement with Erdogan and his ilk isn’t worth the paper, you’re just opening up yourself to blackmail.
    Hard to tell what will happen, there are serious tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean which are ignored too much by mainstream media (over Cyprus and Turkey’s expansionist claims on large parts of the Eastern Med, also the Turkish intervention in Libya). Greeks have already indicated they don’t want war with Turkey, but are ready to defend themselves if pushed. It would be interesting to see how the major European countries would react in such an event (Germany would probably cuck and put pressure on Greece to accommodate Turkey, not least because of the huge Turkish 5th column in Germany).

  20. Lot says:

    Depressing, but seems correct.

    I agree Italy is the most hopeful case of the big countries.

    There’s a big gap in Germany between economic production (high) and objective living standards (low by Western Euro standards).

  21. @Anonymous

    The funny thing is that China, which originated this fucking virus, is recovering quickly from it, and will soon be back to normal, that is growing at a rate-of-knots and dominating the world economically, financially and scientifically.

    You might be looking in the wrong direction to apportion blame for Corona Chan. Don’t quote me, but the jury is still out on this one.

    For example, here’s a report saying that Japan, Taiwan and China all believe Corona Chan came from the USA:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/chinas-coronavirus-a-shocking-update-did-the-virus-originate-in-the-us/

    And FWIW, it’s not just China that has recovered from the inital Corona Chan assault with comparatively little damage, most nations around the Western Pacific rim achieved similar results.

    I empathise with the plight of the common folk all around the world – we really did not need this nonsense interrupting our lives and causing mayhem.

    BUT there’s mischief afoot, and IMO (given the track record over the past 20 years) it’s probably not China behind it.

    Stay tuned for “the Second Wave”, or whatever other abomination is currently being prepared for us.

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  22. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    Erdogan has got the EU by the balls.

    Just let one squeak issue through the ugly deformed mouth of Guy Verhofstadt, for instance, about Erdogan ‘being a dictator’, (you know, they way he and other Euro Cunts regularly insult the Poles and the Hungarians), and the EU will pay a very very heavy price – that is, another lorry load of wogs dumped on Greece.

    Notice how the Euro Trash keeps its mouth firmly buttoned up about Erdogan – a man they really do *hate* with a passion and wish to depose.

  23. Why, in an overpopulated world, do we need population growth to recover?

    • Replies: @GMC
  24. Yeah, right. It’s the damn welfare, and the damn regulations, that are destroying France. Check. Never heard that before. You people are all alike since the 1950s. Damn welfare chiselers! Free business from the chains of regulation!

    Sheesh. You have been proven wrong so many times, one would think you don’t read much.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  25. Pericles says:
    @obwandiyag

    “I’m sorry, Madam, but you still have HIV. The cure remains the same; just let us know when you’re willing to start the treatment.”

  26. @Dieter Kief

    How is minimum wage fruit-picking demonstrative of a rise? Poland and Czechia will do ok, the rest of eastern Europe and even the former GDR will see a continual exodus by the young and ambitious.

  27. This is part of the reason that I am skeptical of short or even medium term race war scenarios in Western Europe.

    Yeah, I’ll remember your optimism the next time I see pics of Car-B-Cues from Berlin, Hamburg, or Stuttgart. The problem children have reached critical mass in even the wealthiest norther European countries.

    These hopes were encouraged by peculiarly Boomer assumptions: that wealth grows on trees ….

    Not just Boomers. The wave of migrants from the third world exist in a mindset of pleasure today and free stuff for everybody, neither of which is particularly plentiful when you are actually eking out a living in the third world, but both of which becomes instantly attainable upon landing on First-world shores. They will only keep coming as long as we keep giving them a free ride, literally in rescue boats and figuratively in social welfare programmes.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Sya Beerens
  28. Iris says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    being partly Spanish myself i often feel i have more in common with middle easterners than i do with northern Europeans, maybe it is the reserved nature of the latter but i just find it easier to get on with Mediterranean people whether they are from the European or African/Asian coasts.

    I also found that the unconscious collective social structures resulting from century-old practice of Catholicism and Islam have a lot in common. People in both these cultural spheres are very family-orientated, have more collective values including patriotism, tend to value modesty more, are less materialistic, and overall display more the marks of “traditional” societies.

    I had a striking confirmation once, teasing a very independent, strong-headed UK-based Irish lady friend who had married an Algerian immigrant, and asking her how she managed. She answered that her marriage worked because ” Catholicism and Islam are ultimately very similar“. It was a stunning remark from an English native speaker who had no shared culture whatsoever with North-Africans.

    Catholicism/Islam hold high collective values and morals that have much less importance in Anglo-Saxon Protestantism/Judaism, which have produced the current, ultimate version of dog-eat-dog capitalism: everything is permitted as long as money can be made out of it.

  29. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    North Africans have the instinct – which they share with west Africans, amongst others – of “killing you as soon as look at you”, as evinced this week in Reading, England.

    European Mediterranean folk – who have lived in towns and cities for millennia, and are thus some of the world’s most civilized, in the true sense of the word, folk – don’t have that instinct.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Iris
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    , @Z-man
  30. @Iris

    Very true what you said, could not have summed it up better myself, it is true what you say about the Irish, despite looking quite British when it comes to their personality, their values there are wider similarities with the Mediterranean world, it could be seen by the higher incidence of dark hair among the Irish compared with the often very fair haired Scots and English. I think the reason why Catholicism never managed to catch on among northern Europeans was because it’s demands of traditionalism clashed with the questioning mindset that is so characteristic of the Germanic societies, they wanted a church that they could alter and control and did not like a foreign power in Rome dictating their lives.

    • Agree: Iris
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    , @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
    , @hfel
  31. Bonner Tal says: • Website

    @Durocher: Recently I reanalyzed the French birth name data and it seemed like the percentage of Muslim names stayed steady from 2016 onwards. Do you have an inkling why that might be the case?

    http://halfassed.science.blog/2020/02/14/demographic-change-in-france-prenoms-rare/

    • Replies: @Some Guy
  32. @Ali Choudhury

    How is minimum wage fruit-picking demonstrative of a rise?

    They earn three to four times more here than they would have at home – that’s why they are glad to return every year and work in the fields – or in elder care.

  33. That was then, in days of $120 oil. This is now in a time of $10 oil. The oil importers will flourish as they did in the 90’s and noughties. The US and the UK will struggle not the EU.

  34. Iris says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    they wanted a church that they could alter and control and did not like a foreign power in Rome dictating their lives.

    Again, it is just a personal observation to which I intend to (hopefully) give more intellectual structure some day, but I found by experience that societies being liberal and money-driven goes hand in hand, and that the ultimate illustration for that in Europe is definitely Britain, as well as its Holland little cousin whom the British elite consider as a true, smaller European alter-ego.
    Apart from Protestantism, their shared version of usury-based financial capitalism imported from Holland in the 17th Century definitely plays a role.

    IMHO, Germans Protestants do have more collective values than their British counterparts, with something else than religion being at play here: a millenary-old, shared national identity, which survived and was not so much broken and dismantled by the class system installed by the British ruling elite in England ever since William the Conqueror.

    I was once watching a documentary on the Roman Empire, you know, the “great” imperial role model for both Britain and the US, and one of the most vile political structure to have ever existed, one that made child slave forced prostitution a full-blown industry, among other “achievements”.

    To my great surprise and unlike other European academics, the German historian commented on the Roman Empire with an obvious, sarcastic despise, recalling how Germans managed to stop the Roman progression at the gates of their lands, and concluding that this victory had a central role and long-lasting effect on the constitution, strength and perennity of the German society.

    Because of its specific historic construction, Germany constituted a stronger, more cohesive and unified society (until at least the liberal Allies started messing up with it in 1945).
    Similarly, in addition to Catholicism, collective memory plays a role in the Irish people being more compassionate and idealist than others: having been victim of all-but-name genocide by the British ruling elites (potato “famines”), they are less likely to accept injustice, and for instance remain arguably the stauncher European supporters to the Palestinian people. Best.

  35. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    North Africans have the instinct – which they share with west Africans, amongst others – of “killing you as soon as look at you”, as evinced this week in Reading, England.

    Sadly, another comment based on “factoids” grossly distorted and altered to support the fabricated racial war narrative promoted by many on these threads.

    Facts:

    The Libyan killer in Reading was a clinically disturbed patient, diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and paranoid schizophrenia requiring chronic medication, who was being chased by a team of psychiatric nurses just minutes before he committed the stabbing.

    He had a history of substance abuse and was pictured with self-harm scars over his arms.

    As a side note, he’d converted to Christianity in prison, apparently because he was planning to marry a British woman. The people he attacked were in a group of gays, so if anything, and apart from the overwhelming schizophrenia, his motivation could be tainted by homophobia, which is a feeling not so foreign to many.

    Britain should not have to put up with schizophrenic Libyan asylum seekers. But then, Cameron should not have f….. up Libya in 2011. Which one came first? So which one could have been avoided, do you think?

  36. “IMHO, Germans Protestants do have more collective values than their British counterparts, with something else than religion being at play here: a millenary-old, shared national identity, which survived and was not so much broken and dismantled by the class system installed by the British ruling elite in England ever since William the Conqueror.” An interesting point indeed, the Germans are much more agreeable to people of their fellow nationality than the English are, there is a big rift in England between the more egalitarian north(which interestingly shares many traits in common with Germany and Scandinavia like a population that values industrial and outdoor work as opposed to office based work, a sense of fair play and are big meat eaters with stews very popular, the southern English are less into those kind of dishes and more into fried or grilled foods and foreign cuisine being the sophisticated intellectuals that they think they are lol) and the social climbing south where there is less sense of a shared social class because so many people from all 3 social classes live there unlike the north of England where it is very mainly working class. It could easily be said that the south of England is one of the 3 most individualistic regions on earth, the other two being the New York-Washington area and coastal California.

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  37. Iris says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    You are so, so, very correct and pertinent about the difference between the North and the South of England !

    I do believe in class wars, so IMHO I think that it explains it well.

    While the English people as a nation have a distinct and extremely endearing personality, they have been beaten up, over the centuries, by their autocratic ruling elite. Unlike the French, unlike the Germans, they have lost their internal class war, seemingly forever, without any plausible hope of some day taking back control of the political process.

    The English society is fundamentally a class society dominated by the rich, and this is more pronounced in the South-East where the country’s wealth is concentrated. People are obsessed with money, paying extortionate mortgages to live in ludicrous shoeboxes, completely brainwashed by delusional aspirations to fortune.

    The North is different, starting from its history with the Quaker economic movement which promoted social responsibility, same as Germany. The North is poorer, more working-class, and people are not so deluded. They are definitely nicer, friendlier, have much better social and family lives. The same can be said about Scotland. In a nutshell, the primary obsession with money corrupts and damages people, and the society they constitute.

    The English people are very endearing and there is reason to feel sad for them. Their political system is inherently plutocratic, and tightly maintained by an ancient, unbeatable, permanent war propaganda that has become part of their ethos. They are unable to view the world other than as a polarised war stage in which their government has to kill so the country can survive.
    This worldview will remain sustainable only as long as they can hang on to the US hegemon bandwagon. When the US enters decline, it will only lose its hegemonic position, while the UK will lose everything.

    Unlike the UK with its silly Skripal and Covid-19 shenanigans, France and Germany have proved more independent and have established more pragmatic relationships with the rising powers of the world. Best.

    • Agree: Oliver Elkington
    • LOL: LondonBob
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  38. Anon 2 says:

    According to the EU stats, the economy of Poland is predicted
    to shrink by only 4.3%, lowest level of recession in EU. By contrast,
    the economy of Germany is expected to contract by 6.5%. Poland
    has also suffered extremely low levels of Covid-19 deaths, about
    38 per million, compared to about 110 for its neighbor Germany.
    Some may remember that during the Great Recession of 2008-9
    Poland was the only country in EU whose economy did not suffer
    a recession

    • Replies: @anon
  39. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2

    Poland will soon have to pay billions to the Jews in reparations, and hand over large parts of Poland’s housing stock to New York investors (Trump and Kushner are already planning for this). She’ll also have to pay for the American troops relocated from Germany to Poland (who will be exempt from the Polish justice system and will be allowed to rape Polish women, especially the black soldiers because of BLM). So it doesn’t matter if Poland’s economy doesn’t contract that much, she’ll be bled white financially anyway.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    , @Z-man
  40. Rahan says:

    @João Antunes
    It says here that Portugal takes the most antidepressants in the EU.
    https://adaa.org/sites/default/files/Antidepressant%20use%20in%2027%20European%20countries%20associations%20with%20sociodemographic%20cultural%20and%20economic%20factors_FINAL.pdf
    Something’s not right obviously.

    In homo and gender values, Portugal leans “eastern european” mostly.
    https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/ebs_493_data_fact_lgbti_eu_en-1.pdf

    Perhaps this disconnect between the population’s values, and the behavior of “the elites” is what helps create pressure that is being muffled by truckloads of antidepressants.

    Maybe stop the pills and just chase the jerks out?

    • Replies: @João Antunes
  41. @Iris

    Islam only exists because the Romish religion is polytheistic, keeps inventing minor gods who will for ward your prayer to the top God, all those saints. And has its goddess, the Mother of God, though the Bible, John and elsewhere, says Jesus has existed since the beginning of time.

    A certain Arab couldn’t tolerate that nonsense, so we have monotheism, Islam.

    But I guess you were joking, right?

    Must get rid of those rotten, monotheistic Protestants, of course.

  42. Southern Europe and France had risk premia on their debt reduced artificially as a result of their membership in the EU, and did what anyone does when faced with stupidly-low cost of debt issuance… they issued a shitload of new debt and spent like drunken sailors.

    It’s trivial to get growing GDP per capita if government is prepared to deficit-spend beyond any sensible relationship to the future tax base – because the (irresponsible, unsustainable) expenditure counts towards GDP, but the additional debt doesn’t.

    This is one of several reasons why people ought to ignore GDP – be it real or nominal, seasonally-adjusted or otherwise, constant-dollar or otherwise, per-capita or otherwise.

    As I’ve said for approaching three decades, people need to shift their focus to
     • private sector wages and salaries (which can be had from GDP by income data, as well as labour market reports); plus
     • private sector value added (harder to get good data on, but that’s why good analysis is hard).

    The sum of those two quantities is the upper bound on the total value created in an economy. It’s still an overstatement, but much less so than GDP.

    In the same way: everyone ought to ignore the Investment measure in the national accounts, and focus solely on Non-defence Capex excluding Aircraft (or its equivalent) from Durable Goods (or its equivalent) – a vastly more useful series if the aim is to identify trends in actual durable capital expenditure.

    .

    If a drunken sailor has his credit-card cancelled in the middle of a spending frenzy, there is an abrupt tendency for the frenzy to cease – driving the sailor’s next-quarter expenditure back towards a level concomitant with his productivity. If the credit card had previously had a teaser rate and the teaser period ends, then the new level will be below a level concomitant with his productivity because of the increased cost associated with paying down the ghost of frenzies past.

    Southern Europe (and France) had both for two decades – with extremely short-term interruptions during “crises’, whereupon the political leaderships colluded to finagle the situation… putting pressure on global capital markets to indemnify these fucking Mediterranean Sun People from the proper ramifications of their poor decision-making.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Wizard of Oz
  43. Baxter says:

    I’m going to ask a question. If anybody knows the answer I’d like to hear it. The question is this.
    Is the welfare system in the European Union part of one big system, or is it different for each country. By that I mean is the money from Swedish or German tax payers going into a giant fund serving all the countries in the E.U? Or are the welfare systems different and separated by country?

  44. koopsicle says:

    As long as the southern european States share the same currency as Germany, they have no chance of proper recovery. They simply cannot compete in terms of price and quality with the german industrial output. On one side they cannot devalue their currency and on the other side they have to compete with the east european States.

  45. @Baxter

    These are all separate. EU social legislation amounts to trying to “harmonize” common standards and give European citizens access to the other nations’ systems (if they they work). There is no welfare redistribution, though there is some (macroeconomically modest) redistribution for the EU budget, mostly for farming subsidies and regional development for poorer territories.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  46. Some Guy says:
    @Bonner Tal

    More Muslims starting to use non-Muslim names offsetting the increase in Muslim population?

  47. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    North Africans do have very high crime rates though, for example:

  48. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    If you actually knew what you were pontificating about – which obviously you do not – you would know that ‘northern Europe’ was Catholic and devoutly Catholic for a good half millennium before the Reformation came along.

    In England, at the very least, the religious persuasion of the nation was wrought by politics and nothing but politics.

  49. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    The Irish are more or less genetically identical to the English.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  50. @Baxter

    The welfare systems are all separate. Each EU country pays budget contributions with richer countries contributing more and some of those funds are redistributed for grants to poorer regions within EU countries. For example Wales and northeastern England received EU development funding for roads, museums, jobs programs, research funding etc. despite being in one of the richer countries.

  51. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    The inherent character of north Africans was amply demonstrated to stupid gullible north Europeans in the mass sexual assaults/rape razzia committed in Cologne during the New Year’s celebration a few years back.
    The French prisons are packed full of nasty little north African thieves, knife attackers etc.
    Of course, during the Allied invasion of Italy in the 1940s, north Africans under (shamefully) French command raped and murdered Italian women on a truly monumental scale, M. Durocher, how do you excuse *that*?
    The murderous nastiness of north Africans was very apparent in the Algerian civil war.
    And in recent years we had the Nice truck massacre, the Bataclan massacre, Charlie Hebdo etc.

    In short, they are not very nice people.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Some Guy
  52. @Kratoklastes

    As I’ve said for approaching three decades, people need to shift their focus to
     • private sector wages and salaries (which can be had from GDP by income data, as well as labour market reports); plus
     • private sector value added (harder to get good data on, but that’s why good analysis is hard).

    I agree with your point a).

    Point b) is interesting, I wouldn’t mind if you’d elaborate a bit more on this one.

    Another indicator that seems useful in analyzing how well an economy does: The net worth of exported goods/year.
    (One can also correlate this with the net worth of imports).

  53. Thomasina says:
    @Anonymous

    China is NOT doing well economically. Their exports are way, way down. She is currently being brought to her knees.

    • LOL: bluedog
    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  54. Iris says:
    @Some Guy

    The USA are in the bottom left quarter? Where did you get this pseudo “scientific” data from?

    One valid indicator of the level of criminality is the incarceration rate per capita.
    It is only Wikipedia, but the principal source is recognised database “World Prison Brief”.
    North Africa actually ranks among the lowest in the world in the list of incarceration rate per capita, where the USA takes the first place.

    And no need to invoke fraud, these are countries very open to foreigners and external scrutiny, Morocco and Tunisia for tourism, Algeria for O&G business.

  55. Today, not having its own currency (unlike Britain) and having an enormous welfare and overregulated labor market (relative to Germany), there is no denying that France is falling behind.

    From around 1965 to 2000, France was, uncharacteristically, significantly richer than Britain. In the 90s, France was about as rich as Germany, which was then hobbled by the annexation of formerly communist eastern Germany

    So much nonsense packed into so little space. I’m almost impressed.

    In reality, unlike what the author’s limited understanding compels him to spout, Britain has been consistenty been lagging both France and Germany in the central economic measurement that matters: productivity. GDP per capita = hours worked x GDP per hour worked (productivity). Germany is ahead of France, but not by much.

    Secondly, France was in fact ahead of Germany in the 1980s, not the 1990s. There has been a small discrepancy in recent years but nothing much.

    In the long run, I am talking 30-40 years, we can expect that northern Europe will become so dysfunctional that people prefer living in southern or eastern Europe. Non-Whites currently make up around 20% of the north-west European population. When this rises to 40 or 50%, we can expect the situation to get very unstable indeed.

    Utter and complete lunacy. Americans of the same ilk as the author said the same nonsense about the US several decades ago. How a non-white America would lead to somekind of bloody racewar. So far, most of the BLM protests have been dominated by white liberals.

    Southern and Eastern Europe will remain on the fringes, just as the US will remain a dominant power. These bizarre “massive chaos” fantasies are essentially an inadvertent admission by rightoids like the author that they are out of ideas. When you’re out of ideas, you’re hoping for Deus Ex machina to bail your ass out, hence these increasingly bizarre and fanciful fantasies completely disconnected from reality.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  56. When the concept of ‘fiat currency’ is finally recognized as the fraud that is is, is when things get real for everyone.

    The end of fiat currencies is in progress right now with the bankers and politicians trying to cobble together the replacement scheme for the next fraud. If one major country introduces gold and silver backed money (not BS currency) then the rest of the world will be forced to follow that lead. That signals the end of the welfare state and all the dirtbags sponging off the working people will have to shape up or die off.

    With real money, Ms Merkel won’t be able to hand out gifts to human trash because those gifts would need to be paid for by transferring money from the productive to the unproductive and that’s when the average person revolts.

    The entire world’s problems can all be laid at the feet of the Economics profession (fraud) for sanctifying lying, cheating and stealing for at least the last 100 years.

  57. @Some Guy

    Hmm. Do the US statistics include Obama’s murders, the CIA drug trade, Hitlery’s release of official secrets using her home computer as her email server, bribery of politicians, etc? Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc …………………….?

  58. Billkills says:

    The whole article is surfing on the thoughts that the EU will last or somehow endure and that the economy in the “northern countries” will keep rolling.
    This is so far from the truth as it can be.
    You forgot that the German retirement funds are primary invested in the “P.I.G.S” bonds and Germany is not alone there…
    When Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain will default -or even partially default on those bonds-, there will be blood in the German streets.
    Same with the Netherlands etc…
    Those bonds was bought so the PIGS could subsidy their own industry, keep their people at work and buying the industrial products from the north.
    It´s all a gigantic Ponzi pyramid from hell: since years.
    Over that, as the ECB was killing European banks with negative rates, those -already sinking- European banks loaned money to the emerging markets (positive rates are good you know…).
    Those Emerging Markets will be ready to hit the “default button” in the next years.
    The domino effect will start: “North” included.
    The whole European Socialist economic system is crumbling: promises will never be kept.
    Retirements and welfares will be slashed like pigs in the slaughterhouse.
    What ´s the solution? The ECB will buy the entire Euro-zone?
    It already owned +40% of the Euro-zone debt BEFORE the ugly virus lock-down.

    A French study on 30 years of immigration showed some years ago that immigration been paying for itself in the good times: it went to zero, so they say.
    When recession and bad time was in, the immigrants was the first losing their jobs and living on welfare, dragging the economy down.
    So here we go: massive amounts of immigrants soon losing their jobs and straining the Socialist system beyond its capacity.
    On the side, between 2015 and 2018, the German welfare budget already tripled: thank you Merkel.
    Add the falling consumerism… The auto industry will NEVER recover as it was falling since 2018 and the German economy was hitting recession in 2019 due to that slowdown.
    Blaming it on the “green conversion” of the industry was a false narrative as the auto market was falling world over!

    The global financial crisis started the 17th of September 2019 in the “repo” market…
    See WHEN the Fed´s balance sheet jumped: 17th September 2019.
    $6.6 trillions was spewed by the Fed in revolving loans to failing banks from September 2019 to January 2020. Before ugly COVID attacked the USA.
    Rumor has it that Deutsche “Douche” Bank started it all: looking good for the Euro-zone!
    No Congress hearing… The lock-down saved the day: it´s the virus´s fault we bail out Wall-Street and the Euro trash with the biggest liquidity injection ever.

    Expect the Euro to be canceled as cash… Germans will love that I know…sarc.

    Expect massive civil unrest.
    Expect nationalism to rise.
    Expect nativism to rise.
    Expect many migrants to leave and if not, expect growing conflicts…
    Expect the Euro to fall.
    And much more…

    It´s all about the economy, promises that will never be kept and it´s not pretty.
    30 years? Hahahaha…. NOT.
    In 15 years from now it´s Post Soviet economy or worse.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Curmudgeon
  59. CCG says:
    @Iris

    What your Irish friend said is nonsense hamstering. She married him because she thought with what’s between her legs rather than what’s between her ears. Catholic Portuguese culture sees Muslims very differently and looks down on such pairings, especially because the resulting children would have to be Muslim as per Sharia Law.

  60. @Anonymous

    The Irish are more or less genetically identical to the English.

    Yeah, both are going mulatto.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  61. CCG says:
    @João Antunes

    I’ve already explained Antonio Costa’s background here:
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/is-lisbon-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-3419899

    He’s not as Indian as people think he is. But yes, he is a traitorous sellout (his prostitute mother has bequeathed him a prostitute mindset) and the Portuguese people need another 40 Conspirators to clean up the land.

  62. The author recently wrote about Jean Raspail and his prophetic work. It echoes living myth in some respect in that the iconic media sea born invasion of Europe recalls the catastrophic collapse of civilization in the 12th century bc in which all the great civilizations of the eastern Mediterranean collapsed, bar Egypt (wounded from within), through the conquest of the Sea Peoples which led to the first great Dark Age that lasted for several centuries.

    I have seen several comments on UR describing what seems this suicidal world we are living in as clown or some other quasi matrix world but some other models come to mind:

    * Though I did not follow some of its themes the TV Lost series might be knocking at the door.
    * The movie Devils Advocate, especially the highly biblical symbolic scene which takes place atop a tower building, gives another take but lacks an explicit way out.
    * Purgatory and cutting of attachments. The spiritual flames that light a bridge that has to be crossed.
    * Flame Island in Ancient Egypt. A transistory location like an airport that ultimately should lead to take off (resurrection) or annihilation.

  63. @Billkills

    massive amounts of immigrants soon losing their jobs and straining the Socialist system beyond its capacity.

    From the 2015 wave less than 20 % are working in decent jobs, so – if all of them would be fired, this would not matter much.

    • Replies: @Billkills
  64. @Anonymous

    She probably thinks they’re hot. Women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  65. Billkills says:
    @Baxter

    As I commented far below your post…
    The EU countries´s retirement funds was mostly coerced into EU state bonds.
    Simply because the southern countries was all broke and consumerism was falling.
    Remember that the prime buyer of the northern industrial products is the south…
    So, to avoid massive job layouts in the north, they invested the northern countries´s retirement funds into southern bonds, so the south could keep their industry running through fresh money subsidization, get their people off the hook and buying the northern´s industrial products.
    This is pure kick-the-can-down-the-road tactic until the EU should be federalized…
    The EU is a gigantic Ponzi and the Socialist welfare system is doomed to collapse the Socialist way: when it runs out of other people´s money (as was saying Maggie Thatcher).
    She warned enough about this EU swindle and the Euro being nothing more than federation through the back-door.

    The world market is clear: since no country in the Europe-zone will ever be able to repay its debts, if you buy Euro-zone bonds you either love to lose money or are the deepest moron around the globe.

    The ECB and Brussels know it so they would like to get their “perpetual bonds” running : like… why ever paying back any debt?
    You clearly see that it is a political project, not an economic one.
    How do you think the world market will look at that development?
    Without the constant intervention of central banks, this union is nothing.
    They want to cancel the Euro currency (the cash) because they think that this way, they will get massive amounts of capital rushing to the banks and be able to tax it with negative interest rates.
    This is temporary bandage over daily bandages politic trying to stop a 12 years old bleeding: the Euro goes down against the US$ since 2008 and the reason is simple…Capital flight: confidence into the Euro is fading.
    Do you see where this is going?
    It will collapse, trying to become what Gorbachev called it once: A Soviet Union in western cloths.
    It can not end well.
    Do not count on the state: DO NOT.
    Welfares will be paid BUT slashed until you eat dandelion leaves´s salads.
    Make your own savings and not in Euro and not in the banks.
    When they forbid you to exchange big amounts of money into $ or other foreign currencies, you will understand what I talk about.
    You been warned and that´s a friendly advice.

  66. Billkills says:
    @Dieter Kief

    I speak of people being there since years or even decades.
    Many of them will lose their jobs and will have a harder time to get one back.
    Do not think that when you send you job application headed with Mohamed Benkassem, you have the same chances as with Robert Smith or Jean Durand with the same qualifications.
    It´s mostly about the mentality… People from Africa or Maghreb have a bad reputation about productivity and discipline in Europe.
    Actually, there´s a bunch of young educated Moroccans (born in France) leaving France to take jobs in Morocco : they tend to live better there and have better job opportunities.

    The picture is clear: there will be massive layoffs and people from foreign origins will often go first.
    It´s not only me telling this, it´s also the research on 30 years of immigration in France and I think this phenomenon is European as well.

    From my personal point of view and experience, I agree on the research.

  67. @Rahan

    Portuguese are hopeless honestly. They are just too old nowadays. The young emigrated and the young blood is African, Brazilian, South Asian… And worst, the young from the European stock are all into the Globalized cult and Civic Citizenship trap, they have absolutely no notion of ethnicity or history or people. They would acuse you of Racism or Xenophobia if you even suggest we are receiving too much immigrants or grant our citizenship way too easy (last year 135 hundred thousands people become Portuguese, a total insanity). No, this piece of land is way gone, don’t count on us. This is not ethnic European anymore.

    • Replies: @CCG
  68. @João Antunes

    Portugal is a very diverse country nowadays.

    Gee, I thought all of that ended with Salazar.

    • Replies: @CCG
  69. A123 says:

    Debt will rise to over102% of GDP, with huge disparities: over 115% for Spain and France, and almost 160% for Italy and 200% for Greece.

    Italy looks to be on the verge of explosion. Both the political establishment and the people at large are becoming anti-EU. The inchoate populist-leftoid Five-Star Movement has collapsed. Matteo Salvini’s nationalist Lega is being outflanked . . . by the even more nationalist Brothers of Italy.

    Based on these two key points from the author, we can foresee a new Italian government in the near future. One that will not accept authoritarian EU dictates on migration and Austerity Economics.

    Due to single € currency EuroZone [EZ] it is impossible for Italy to exit the EU/EZ. The € denominated debts owed by Italian entities prevents a return to the Lira without a legal framework to redenominate all contracts. Given that the EU is incapable of good faith negotiations with the UK, one has to believe they would be equally intransigent in any Italian negotiations.

    That leaves two possibilities for the next Italian government:

    Default — Which would destroy German financial institutions, such as Deutsche Bank
    Monetization/Devaluation — Unilateral printing to reduce debt while paying in full

    Given the amount of Italian Government debt held by Italian citizens and banks, Default becomes complex as an option. Selectively defaulting on only foreign held debt is difficult to execute.

    Monetization is much more practical. Italian Euro € Printer Go Brrrr…. The powerless ECB screams, but there is little that they can actually do. Once the first devaluation occurs others will follow such as Greece and Spain.

    German Elites, the backbone of SJW Globalism, will lose control and no longer be able to brutalize other EU/EZ nations with their perverse Austerity Economics. Individual German savers will see the value of their savings radically diminshed. This will likely lead to a German exit from the single € currency. The remaining EZ nations can then end the € in an orderly manner.

    PEACE 😇

  70. @Billkills

    The whole European Socialist economic system is crumbling: promises will never be kept.

    It has never been a “Socialist economic system”. Any socialism that existed was tossed out with mass immigration. Even the EEC was killing any socialism, albeit more slowly. M. Durocher himself has stated “immigration is the reserve army of capital”. Socialism contains elements of nationalism, which is like a cross to the vampire EU.

    A French study on 30 years of immigration showed some years ago that immigration been paying for itself in the good times: it went to zero, so they say.

    Yes, “they” say, but it is total bullshit. The only explanation for that type of study to come to that conclusion, would be that the suppressed wages and working condition which result in an increase in excess labour, results in higher government revenue to fund higher costs of unemployment and welfare benefits caused by the increase in excess labour, while ignoring the hundreds of millions taken out of the economy by remittances to the relatives of the immigrants. Funny how that happens wherever mass immigration exists, but not in the countries where mass immigration doesn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Billkills
    , @Anonymous
    , @jay
  71. Dumbo says:

    I think they will recover from corona, the problem is immigration. It was luckily halted during this period, but it will probably start again.

    Remove all Africans and Arabs, Europe for Europeans, and the rest is detail, All’s Well that Ends Well.

    • Agree: Some Guy
  72. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    Yeah, what I linked is the crime rates of nationalities in Sweden and Denmark during different periods so that one can see how crime prone nationalities are in the same country with the same justice system, sorry if that wasn’t clear. The poorest and most dysfunctional people are unlikely to manage to manage emigrating to Sweden or Denmark, without them Americans clearly don’t commit a lot of crime, but certain other nationalities still do.

    incarceration rate per capita

    Depends more on the justice system than crime rates. You really think the US has by far the highest crime rate in the world, more than Brazil or Mexico for instance?

  73. Billkills says:
    @Curmudgeon

    If you see my post, I wrote:
    “A French study on 30 years of immigration showed some years ago that immigration been paying for itself in the good times: it went to zero, so they say.
    When recession and bad time was in, the immigrants was the first losing their jobs and living on welfare, dragging the economy down.”

    So from zeroed economic growth VS immigration cost, with a negative when recession hits, we come to a final result of negative economics with immigration.

    So even their research might have a bias, they still conclude themselves that it was a loss, not a win.

    Personally, I know it was a loss: I worked 8 years in France and I can tell.
    But my personal opinion could be seen as biased and so I had to name this state research.

    When I speak about the Socialist economic model, I speak about the European welfare model, not the broad economy.
    Those are the promises that will not be kept: welfare and retirements.
    They are already eaten away, as I explained: mostly invested in state bonds which are basically worthless to this day since none of those states ever had the intention to borrow to this point and repay their debts.
    They are all in a kick-the-can-down-the-road mode and ordered to do so until the EU could be federalized.
    But this federation dream will stay a dream…

    The Capitalistic model the EU was based on, is pure Corporatism: from the very beginning.
    The EU plan was hatched from the 3rd Reich blue-print for a united continent under one economic and social order.
    This economic order was led by the IG-Farben group (Hoechst, BASF, Farben, Bayer, AGFA…) as a continental monopoly on the then developing chemistry industry.
    This blue-print for corporate power was used to start the EU project and it was NO coincidence that Walter Hallstein, a law professor consulted for the project during the National Socialist era, became the “first president of the Commission of the European Economic Community and one of the founding fathers of the European Union.” as he is beautifully described on the net…

    Consult the researches from Dr. Rath on the subject.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Alfred
  74. CCG says:
    @Curmudgeon

    No, Salazar was a believer in luso-tropicalism and miscegenation. That’s not surprising. If you read the letters of the 1st Duke of Goa (Afonso de Albuquerque), then you will learn that the Portuguese have always been more interested in religion (Catholicism) without much care about race from the start of the Age of the Discoveries.

    Mr. Antunes, if Portuguese young people are ignorant of the heights they can achieve (whether due to bad schooling or globalist programming or lazy parenting) then I recommend this book:
    https://www.bertrand.pt/livro/conquistadores-roger-crowley/17436482
    Also, books by this author on Portuguese history are good for morale:
    https://www.bertrand.pt/autor/rainer-daehnhardt/22155

  75. Iris says:

    Yeah, what I linked is the crime rates of nationalities in Sweden and Denmark during different periods so that one can see how crime prone nationalities are in the same country with the same justice system

    If by this, you mean the individual crime rate by immigrant nationality, then approximated by regression to find an average comparative crime rates for all foreigners in Denmark and Sweden, then there is an obvious problem in your data: you have to demonstrate first that each individual crime rate (by specific nationality) is statistically significant.

    Just quickly looking at your curve, I can tell that it is not the case: the Jordan rate for Sweden and even more so the Chile rate for Sweden are clearly way off, probably because Jordan and Chile are too small countries to have that much immigrants in Denmark/Sweden, so the sample size is not significant. Rubbish in, rubbish out.

    It is probable that North African immigrants commit much of the petty crime happening in Scandinavia, because they are the most numerous immigrants, younger, economically deprived and socially lower-classes even in the countries of origin. Pretending, however, to prove things “scientifically” with flawed information just makes a mockery of the demonstration and only reveals the prejudice.

    You really think the US has by far the highest crime rate in the world, more than Brazil or Mexico for instance?

    World Prison Brief is a collaborative database. Any country can fix their statistics, so why would the US government be happy with such an appalling record if inaccurate?

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    , @Some Guy
    , @Bork
  76. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    The inherent character of north Africans was amply demonstrated to stupid gullible north Europeans in the mass sexual assaults/rape razzia committed in Cologne during the New Year’s celebration a few years back.

    The Cologne “mass sexual assaults/rape razzia” hoax has been debunked by the Cologne General Prosecutor. He publicly revealed that the alleged assaults by immigrants on women on New Year’s Eve were reported too hastily by the international press.

    After interviewing nearly 300 people and viewing 590 hours of videos, Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer first revealed in an interview with Die Welt that more than 60% of the assaults were not sexual but theft. They were committed by a total of 58 attackers, of which 55 were mostly Algerians and Moroccans living in Germany for a long time, as well as three Germans. Only 3 refugees were involved, two Syrians and one Iraqi.

    He stated that, separate from the thefts, the sexual assaults and rape that were committed were only the tip of the iceberg of a rape culture, widely shared among all communities, and present at all times during large gatherings.
    In other terms, people of all creed and origins cannot help groping women when shrouded by the crowd and darkness.

    He stated that only 1 (one) rape had been committed during the Cologne New Year’s Eve. In comparison, an average of two rapes are reported every year at the Munich Beer Fest, with a record of 13 rapes taking place in 2002.

    This Cologne migrant rape statistics narrative is mendacious and fabricated. It would be more accurate to state that North-Africans immigrants were over-represented in petty theft crime, but it would not sound as menacing as rape does, and would therefore not fit the National-Zionist grand agenda of setting communities against one another.

    Sources in German, French and Italian:

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article152018368/1054-Strafanzeigen-nach-Uebergriffen-von-Koeln.html

    https://blogs.mediapart.fr/patricjean/blog/140216/agressions-sexuelles-de-cologne-un-renversement-revelateur

    https://www.internazionale.it/opinione/patric-jean/2016/02/17/profughi-colonia-migranti-violenze

  77. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    And in recent years we had the Nice truck massacre, the Bataclan massacre, Charlie Hebdo etc.

    I just saw that. You were 100% right to post under anonymous handle; posting something so stupid is not good for one’s intellectual reputation.

    If you still believe that the Paris terror attacks were organised by the numbskull North-African Wahabbis, you really should gear up and move to a website more worthy of your intellect. Dora The Explorer should be about right for you.

    • Agree: Alfred
  78. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    then approximated by regression to find an average comparative crime rates for all foreigners in Denmark and Sweden

    No, the regression shows that nationalities with high crime rates in Sweden in the 80s tended to have high crimes rates in Denmark in the 2000s. In other words, their high crime rates are not limited to a certain time or place.

    probably because Jordan and Chile are too small countries to have that much immigrants in Denmark/Sweden

    Nope, we have a lot of refugees from those countries(Palestinians and Pinochet-refugees IIRC). These graphs specifically use the nationalities there are enough people in to base statistics on.

    It is probable that North African immigrants commit much of the petty crime happening in Scandinavia, because they are the most numerous immigrants, younger, economically deprived and socially lower-classes even in the countries of origin.

    You clearly don’t know anything about where most immigrants to Scandinavia come from. The data is already adjusted for age and sex. Why would North Africans in Scandinavia be particularly deprived compared to Middle Eastern refugees for example?

    Here’s another one for Sweden and Germany:

    • Replies: @Iris
  79. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    World Prison Brief is a collaborative database. Any country can fix their statistics, so why would the US government be happy with such an appalling record if inaccurate?

    Forgot to address this: it’s not that the records are inaccurate, it’s that you think incarceration rate=crime rate. Tell me, do you believe the US has the most crime and is the unsafest country in the world? No? Then clearly these things are not the same. We all know the US is “tough on crime”, which means more incarcerations regardless of crime rate.

    Incarceration rate=crime rate * proportion of crimes solved * length of prison sentence per crime.

    • Replies: @Iris
  80. Billkills says:
    @Iris

    Iris

    I will pass on the undeniable fact that a big part of non-European immigration has been very much destabilizing the social and economical fiber of many European countries.
    There was a time when no-go zones did not exist: remember.
    And I know them well as I grew up there…

    Yes, it has to do with ethnicity as the East Asian immigration proves it very well, while it has been integrating like no others in Europe, never making itself widely dependent of the European welfare state and never filling up European prisons unlike the others.
    I bet not everybody is “equal” there…

    Who is trying to use this failed immigration policy for its own agenda is little relevant right now, since the problem is not going away without a collapse of the actual economic system sustaining this globalist project by the hair and against the wide majority of the European population.
    See here:
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration#

    The real question is WHY we came to that.
    If you want to know more, you might look at this 1978 intern EU document as it´s all told page 22 with very few words:
    http://aei.pitt.edu/7824/1/31735055281335_1.pdf

    “Mr Claude Cheysson, European Commissioner for Development,when signing the EEC-Lebanon Agreement, concluded: “This endeavour and the means employed are new. There are bound to be difficulties, occasionally clashes. Some feel that we have not aimed high enough. But a grand design and a lofty ambition do emerge…Convinced of the creative force and the neighbourly solidarity between peoples united by geography, history, culture and ambition, we are bringing two groups of peoples together, the Arab nation and the European nation”

    It was called the Union for the Mediterranean in the Barcelona 1995 agreement.
    It still lives somehow, under the guide of being an idealistic project (like the EU was…)
    https://ufmsecretariat.org/who-we-are/member-states/

    It is exactly what Richard C. Kalergi (the father of the EU) described in is 1922 manifesto Paneuropa and Practical Idealism book from 1925 (you should read them).
    A transcontinental monopoly where the norther European industry should be melted with the southern North-African natural resources.

    There is no coincidence into what we have seen: only a broader plan conceived by ambitious monopolists avid of power and determined to transform nations into regions deprived of cultural or social heritage, inhabited by what Kalergi called for “The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future” as stipulated in his book Practical Idealism.
    How “practical”…
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/the-father-of-the-european-union-the-real-mover-shaker-behind-the-curtain/

    You see, let´s stop perfuming the BS and have a real look at what´s going on.
    That immigrants are useful idiots into this game, will not make the situation better as the great plan is looking pretty bad and will look like hell when the economy is done shaking.

    I hope you will come to read Kalergi´s book one day because his bust was throning at the entrance of the French Socialist party´s headquarter for decades.
    They all loved him and Brussels´s oligarchy still view him as their father.

  81. Iris says:
    @Some Guy

    No, the regression shows that nationalities with high crime rates in Sweden in the 80s tended to have high crimes rates in Denmark in the 2000s. In other words, their high crime rates are not limited to a certain time or place.

    You clearly don’t know anything about where most immigrants to Scandinavia come from. The data is already adjusted for age and sex.

    You will have to post your sources if you want to prove me wrong, or to improve your understanding of your own argument, because what you say does not describe the trends you posted. In absence of these sources and of a coherent explanation from yourself, I can only make sense of the trend as follows:

    – Crime rate is a positive integer number, commonly defined as the ratio of crimes in an area to the population of that area, expressed per 1000 population, per year. Let’s call it CR.

    – As nationals (Swedes, Danes, then Germans) are accounted for in the trend, one guesses that the full, overall country crime rate CR has been split in fractions attributed by national origin of the perpetrators. For instance, this means that Chileans, in the second curve, would have committed almost 3.5 crimes out of Sweden’s overall crime rate CR, and 2,5 of Germany’s overall CR.
    (The overall CR is of course the sum of each sub-CR respective to each national origin; the sex and age have no role whatsoever).

    – The question we were trying to answer was whether North-Africans were more prone to violent crime as posited by comment 29 related to the Reading attack. So does your trend prove that North-Africans are more violent? No it does not, because it is baselined against a considered country overall CR, and not against its ratio of the considered migrant population within the overall population..

    Take a simple example on the second trend. It shows that Algerians are responsible for slightly over 10% of Germany’s CR, and Chinese for only about 1%.
    Does it mean that Algerians commit 10 times more crimes than Chinese? No it does not, as it would depend on the ratio of Algerians and of Chinese within the overall German population:
    – If they are in equal numbers, Algerian do commit 10 times more crimes.
    – If there are 10 times more Algerian than Chinese, than their respective crime rates are similar.

    So your trend does not at all “prove” what you think it does.
    Also, and more importantly, both trend presents slopes which are inferior to 1 (one), in the order of 0.70, which means that the overall crime rate has decreased by 30 over the compared periods.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Some Guy
  82. Iris says:
    @Some Guy

    Tell me, do you believe the US has the most crime and is the unsafest country in the world? No?

    Yes. In my empirical, subjective opinion, violent crime goes along with broken societies and high drug usage, a social model for which the USA has become a poster country.

    I have proposed an objective, quantifiable indicator, the incarceration rate. If you don’t like it, propose another objective indicator, but don’t tell me that your subjective opinion is more valid than my subjective opinion.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    , @Jeff Stryker
  83. Iris says:
    @Iris

    Also, and more importantly, both trend presents slopes which are inferior to 1 (one), in the order of 0.70, which means that the overall crime rate has decreased by 30 over the compared periods.

    Typo error: the overall crime rate has decreased by 30% over the compared period.

  84. Half, probably more than half, of Italy’s economy is underground. Same with Greece. I imagine Spain is getting there. So don’t worry about them. They are ideally situated to weather the storm.

  85. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    Hmm? The graphs are very simple: they show the relative crime rate of immigrant nationalities compared to the natives. Size of immigrant population is already taken into account. Algerians in Germany committed 10 times as much crime as native Germans per capita in the 2010s, in Sweden they committed 3.5 times as much as Swedes in the 80s per capita.

    Also, and more importantly, both trend presents slopes which are inferior to 1 (one), in the order of 0.70, which means that the overall crime rate has decreased by 30 over the compared periods.

    The correlation-line only shows that nationalities with high crime rates in one country tend to have high crime rates in the other country. Algerians have the highest crime rates in both Sweden in the 80s and German in the 2010s for example. It does not show that crime rates have gone down over time, only that the correlation is not perfect. A perfect correlation would mean that every nationality had the exact same “native crime rate ratio” in both countries.

    I can’t make things any clearer than that, so if you don’t understand still then I give up.

    • Replies: @Iris
  86. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    Well in that case you’re just being stupid. Homicide rates are better since they’re hard to ignore, at least in developed countries. The US is rank 137 out of 230, and El Salvador has 10 times the homicide rate of the US:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#Table

  87. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    The USA and UE are very different, here is why:

    USA non-whites are a stable black population and a rising Christian hispanic population, none of which cause a direct threat to the society. Coupled with the low density of population, you have no chance for conflict in the USA.

    I am french, and I will tell you very precisely what the situation is: we are being invaded by Islam. In addition to the massive black african immigration whose fertility is insane and work capacity low, Islamic immigration is a massive issue. They want REVENGE for colonization, croisades, Algerian war, everything. Europe is now theirs, they are agressive, smart, organized and backed by a 1.5 billion people Muslim alliance. Mosquees are everywhere now.

    Finally, demographics. EU is just above Africa which population is currently exploding. Subsaharan-Africa population growth is crazy, migrations to Europe are ONLY beginning but what about North Africa ? Algeria for example: 10 millions in 1960, 42 millions now. Morocco : 10 millions in 1960, 36 millions now. This growth is fueled by European wheat by the way, and for Algeria the economy is completely dependent on oil prices.
    Not going to end well.

    If you think that because nothing major happened in the USA, that Europe will be similar, you haven’t understood the situation Western Europe faces.

    • Agree: Some Guy, Alfred
    • Replies: @Billkills
    , @Vingo Vreez
  88. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    North African soldiers of the French colonial Army also tortured surrendered SS Indian soldiers of the German army after WW2, many of the Indian soldiers would have been Muslims. Brown on brown torture. But to be fair there were cases of Indian soldiers of the British Indian army raping French women during the World Wars.

  89. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    True.

    For rather perverse reasons all of its own, the EU forbids the nationalization of industry, or state subsidies to loss making industries – both of which are necessary for any self respecting nation state worthy of its name to hold in reserve in cases of extremis.

    Strangely enough, the British left is pro EU.

  90. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    You must be a north African yourself to defend them so strongly.

  91. @Iris

    and would therefore not fit the National-Zionist grand agenda of setting communities against one another.

    One of the two communities is recent, it has no justification for its presence past violence against the natives. They are settlers, and mass immigration is an act of colonialism.
    Very sad to see you participate in national-zionist colonial tropes.
    Equivalence between colonialist crimes and native crimes is a constant trope within israeli narratives, One side is preyed upon and therefore disadvantaged, while the other is preying upon and therefore privileged. With their privileged status, the pseudo-syrian colonial community should commit absolutely zero crimes to redeem themselves.

    As a sidenote: The picture is absolutely disgusting, in that it uses local ideology to justify replacement. A cultural parallel would be “innocent” jews holding signs saying “we have the most rightful claims to palestine, as we are the sons of abraham”.
    I recommend you revise the problematic nature of the content you post.

    • Replies: @Iris
  92. Billkills says:
    @Anonymous

    Indeed, the American story on immigration is very different from the European one.

    First of all, Europeans are the natives and are not ready to end in “reservations” after losing a bitter set of battles against “new settlers”.
    But for the most, as you describe, the actual source immigration is very different.

    France is France and yes there is a colonial past which is not helping on the conviviality between the French and the immigrants often coming from the previous colonies.
    But there are many countries in Europe having a similar bad experience with especially Muslim immigration and those never had colonies in the past.
    The result is clear:
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration#

    It is utter craziness from our “elite” to think that inviting such numbers of Sub-Saharan and North Africans into Europe, could have a beneficial effect and end with a happy blend of population.
    Especially at a such rapid path, as a 50 years time lapse.
    The developing growth of “no-go zones” -in places that originally was the 60-70´s suburbs created for French workers from the land to town at the industrial peak- is showing that the population never really did blend or will never really blend.
    This will of living apart comes from both sides and the “grey zone” is still minimal even the governments are pushing in the other way.

    As I underlined in my previous post, this transcontinental “union” project has totally failed and the remnants of this stupid project will have a heavy price as we are entering the collapse of the Socialist welfare system which is primordial for most of this immigrant population.
    Having 5 to 7 kids becomes an easy option when the state can guarantee that they will all be fed, dressed and schooled even you don´t have the money for it and that´s what many fresh immigrants from those African countries often lived/relied on.
    The second and third generation tend to have less children and often as much as the French natives.

    Demographics are NEVER a constant or having an evolution in a straight line forward.
    Nothing is as such.
    I recommend you to read this article and dig into history: at its peak, Rome was a bath of sexual orgies but the demographics was collapsing.
    https://worldcyclesinstitute.com/cycle-tops-and-birth-rates/

    It is very obvious that the actual social welfare program in Europe is NOT sustainable and actually is failing: look how retirements are slowly melting under the light of new taxes…There´s more to come.
    This, coupled with further automation, falling consumerism and diverse scarcities that will be ushered by the coming Grand Solar Minimum -always inducing the collapse of empires or civilizations-, will not help immigrants to stay and have a good time in Europe.
    Yes, Al Gore´s 90s prediction never came to life and at that time Russian scientists was already predicting a cooling period -not a barbecue party- due to a lowering solar activity cycle.
    I remember it well as I was passing in Russia in the late 90s.
    Since predicted the North-Pole barbecue party never came life, our “global warming” hoax has been transformed into “climate change” : but has not the climate been changing since EVER?
    This US congress hearing on “global warming” shows the ridiculousness of this plan directed by Think Tanks standing behind the United Nations.
    Worth the watch…

    Take a look at this last world trade report: as I told previously here, the financial crisis started in September 2019 into the “repo” market and the economic down-turn induced by the virus has been very convenient to continue a bailout that was already ongoing since 4 months.
    https://wolfstreet.com/2020/06/27/world-trade-plunges-heres-why-its-even-worse-chinas-deep-fake-data-comes-to-light/

    World trade has been visibly declining since 2016 and the bankruptcy of Hanjin shipping in 2016 was indeed the “canary in the coal mine”.
    Shipping routes was closing during the 2018-19 period: not opening.
    See Maersk reports if you do not believe me.
    https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/october-2016/hanjin-coal-mine-canary

    What I signal here is an long ongoing process of economic fall: “globalism” and the Western economy has already peaked as the golden goose of consumerism -the western middle class- has been ripped apart with taxes to sustain growing governments and oligarchies.
    There is not turning back: the best times are behind us.
    Now we shall see how the European “needy immigration” will like this coming trend.
    I bet they will not like it and this is why I do not predict an ongoing immigration as Europe has seen for the last 50 years in a “sustainable” society has it had.

  93. Cutler says:

    The demographic description of Portugal is completely inaccurate, For some reason all Europeans over estimate the proportion of non European immigrants in their respective countries, At most non European immigrants account for 5% of the population of Portugal.
    You always see comments from people in 85-90% white European nations saying it’s over we are finished etc etc without noticing enormous political changes that are occurring, The Nationalist trend is only just starting and will remake European politics as sure as night follows day.
    The silent majority is rejecting globalism

    • Replies: @CCG
  94. CCG says:
    @João Antunes

    I forgot to add your ID tag to this comment:
    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/corona-depression-southern-europe-will-never-recover/#comment-3999078

    I’m surprised that young Portuguese people are giving up so easily and leaving, especially when there are several Sikh and Hindu infiltrators in Lisbon who’ve had no problems starting businesses and then using nepotism, ethnic networks, etc. to thrive.

    I’m also not sure about how Portuguese people could become so lazy and blindly swallow the lies about civic citizenship. Reading up Portuguese history is easily done using Internet resources. At least Goans have no delusions about Indian immivasion and Indian attempts at cultural subversion.

  95. ‘wealth grows on trees’

    Yes it does, trees are a major source of wealth now and always. Where do you think wealth comes from, the Sky God?

    Maybe you think God bestows wealth on the Protestant Elect? (the Sky God again)

  96. Iris says:
    @Some Guy

    Hmm? The graphs are very simple: they show the relative crime rate of immigrant nationalities compared to the natives. Size of immigrant population is already taken into account.

    The selection of sample datasets, calculation of statistical variables and correlation of calculated variables is “simple” only for simple minds playing with MS Excel.

    If this trend is designed to represent on both axis a “relative crime rate” by nationality, then it should first show how each calculated yearly relative crime rate was obtained, how population classe ages were compared over each successive years, the size and relevance of the datasets, the confidence interval for the “relative crime rate”, and how each “relative crime rate” was averaged to obtain a crime rate over a period of several years.

    There is nothing “simple” correlating calculated variables; provide your sources with detail of the abovementioned. If this trend was not produced through correct statistical calculations, then this discussion is pointless. Rubbish in, rubbish out.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    , @hfel
  97. Iris says:
    @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive

    One of the two communities is recent, it has no justification for its presence past violence against the natives. They are settlers, and mass immigration is an act of colonialism.
    Very sad to see you participate in national-Zionist colonial tropes.

    As it happens, I am totally against mass immigration. First and foremost, as a supporter of national Labour classes for economic reasons, because it lowers wages. Second, as a patriot, because it fractures the national identity and makes it permeable to globalist attacks.

    But there is a difference between not wanting people to immigrate in one’s country on one hand, and inventing racialist justifications and fabricating “facts” to prevent it on the other hand.

    Discussions about immigration are too often about how inferior foreigners are, how violent they are, how menacing they are, how superior we are.

    We should first clean our backyard and stop condoning our governments’ foreign policies of predation and continued wars of aggression, which are the primary cause of mass immigration. The current waves of refugees are in majority from the 3 countries we messed up with: Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

    And we should definitely stop clinging to fabricated “factoids” and pseudo-scientific racialist theories to defend our rights; delusion is the mark of true losers.

    • Replies: @Billkills
    , @Anonymous
  98. Miro23 says:
    @LondonBob

    The US imploding and its impact that will have on Europe is the next question. Certainly a Democrat sweep in November would have a dramatic impact on the financial markets.

    The implosion of US society would have a big psychological effect on European countries – along the lines that the same could happen to them.

    In its day, the French Revolution had that overwhelming psychological impact. The fear of revolution, chaos (and destruction of the existing order), led to the hyper-conservatism of 19th century Victorian England.

  99. Billkills says:
    @Iris

    All you speak about is “poor refugees” who must come to Europe because our governments waged wars there.

    When you cross 5 or 10 safe countries to come to northern Europe instead of going in peaceful surrounding countries -which have a similar culture to yours- you are not a “poor refugee” : you are an economic immigrant able to pay a few thousands $ to smugglers with networks connected to the modern slavery market.

    See with your own eyes who came to Italy from 2019 to 2020.
    People from: Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Pakistan are making the 3 biggest groups heading the quantity of your “poor refugees”.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/779300/number-of-immigrants-landed-in-italy-by-nationality/

    Afghanistan is not at war anymore.
    Or you don´t know what war is.
    Still, Afghans was making the bulk of migrants coming to Greece in 2019.
    https://www.asylumineurope.org/reports/country/greece/statistics

    Yes, Afghanistan HAS BEEN at war but isn´t it time to rebuild the country ?
    Even if there´s still some Taliban insurgency in some regions.
    Isn´t it time to think about the future of the nation?
    No, instead, hundred of thousands of economic migrants come to Europe.
    Afghans come up to Scandinavia, through the Russian border as well.
    Seriously?

    In which place of Europe are you living in?
    You feed us MSM propaganda crossed with Zionist excuses from the Arab world.
    I know you dialectic: I´ve been growing up in the European “ghetto” surrounded with Arabs (remember I told it).

    No: I don´t like the Zionist politic (which I do not considerate as Jewish) and I know what those people are up to into the European political and financial spheres, but I know also for a fact that we have many European traitors in Europe receiving orders from New York, ready to flood Europe with anything as long as it will break nations into regions and push this European Federation they want.
    See here: from 2016.
    https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-caseys-two-days-with-the-real-and-wannabee-elite/

    Those economic immigrants are “authorized” to come: and you help covering up this agenda by defending the bulk of them who are nothing else than welfare hunters.
    I say “welfare hunters” because we all know that there´s no jobs for those useful idiots serving our elite´s grand plan.

    • Agree: Poco
  100. Miro23 says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    Is that not more of a religious thing more than anything, being partly Spanish myself i often feel i have more in common with middle easterners than i do with northern Europeans, maybe it is the reserved nature of the latter but i just find it easier to get on with Mediterranean people whether they are from the European or African/Asian coasts.

    Having lived in Spain (Levante) for most of my life, I’ve seen a big influx of North Africans (Moroccans and Algerians) , and they don’t mix with the Spanish at all. Contact with them is mostly through (free) social services (which they use to the full – hospitals, schools, government assistance).

    There are also a lot of Northern/ Eastern Europeans and South Americans (Indios) . All of them mostly interact with their compatriots (with the Spanish somewhat racist against the Indios) but the big separation is with the North Africans and black Africans (bottom of the pecking order). BLM just raises a laugh.

    • Replies: @Oliver Elkington
  101. @Miro23

    I agree that there are significant differences between the Spanish and the N Africans, in the same way there are major differences between the British and the Irish or French though the living standards in N Africa are far worse than anywhere in Europe. The Spanish tend to mix among themselves, even the Portuguese are seen as very foreign to them with little in common other than being quite similar in appearance. As for the British in Spain, well the Spanish don’t have very positive views of them as they fail to learn the language and prefer living amongst themselves(which they have a right to i believe, they have bought property there with their own money and if they wish to see Spain as a country in which to lie by a pool and sunbathe then so be it) Black people are tolerated in Spain but the Spanish don’t feel like they have any obligations to give them everything they want. It is not so much a racist society as a racially indifferent one, if you are black and “act Spanish” i am sure they wont have any problems with you while in Britain being black and acting British you will still be seen as an outsider.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Iris
  102. CCG says:
    @Cutler

    I don’t know about Portugal, but in Goa the offspring of Indian immigrants that are born here get statistically counted by the government as Goans. Similarly, those immigrants who have been here for over 10 years also get counted as Goans in government statistics. This has been going on since 1961. Thus actual Goans don’t believe the government’s lies of ‘only 40%’ immigrant population, especially when other statistics (worse female-male ratio, lower percentage of Catholics) contradict this statement. To add to the local anger, there are immigrants who change their names legally to Goan names in order to do fraud.

  103. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    I’ve no doubt that you are some darky infiltrator into this blog playing a double game.

    • Replies: @Iris
  104. Miro23 says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    I agree that there are significant differences between the Spanish and the N Africans, in the same way there are major differences between the British and the Irish or French though the living standards in N Africa are far worse than anywhere in Europe.

    I respect your opinion, but the social distance between the Spanish and North Africans is vastly greater that the social distance between the British and the Irish.

    Spanish and North Africans will never be sitting round the same table or out drinking together. They speak different languages and have an entirely different cultural background.

    The situation with the British and Irish is just the opposite. Both speak English, eat the same food, go to the same parties, appreciate the same jokes and their wives are friends.

    There is an Irish identity but it’s rather like the Scottish identity – something in the background and not a real barrier. The English, Irish, Scots and Welsh have been living and working together for more than a thousand years.

    • Replies: @Oliver Elkington
  105. Iris says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    while in Britain being black and acting British you will still be seen as an outsider.

    Dear OE; agree with everything except that sentence. The British, as a people, are remarkably civilised and tolerant, and as a result have created a society that treats its minority communities with respect and a high level of inclusion. British Blacks are overall very well integrated to society, both professionally and socially.

    The divide in Britain is socio-economic, not racial.

    In my opinion, the Nr1 source of racism in the UK is the Daily May, the plutocracy’s media mouthpiece which, uncoincidentally, continuously demeans and ridicules White working class, White Northern English and Scots.

    The DM is at the forefront of a war promoting subtle racial and class prejudice, the latter of which poor/working class Whites suffer much. A great read on the subject is “Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class”. The book shows how British upper-class maintains a continued effort to undermine and demonize the underprivileged. Best.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Billkills
    , @neutral
  106. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    I envy your simple mind. God bless.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  107. @Miro23

    I think though the Irish and the British may appear superficially similar(Dublin is so much like a British city, far more similar to London than Paris is) there are still key differences, the Irish were fervently Catholic until 40 years ago, a large conflict raged on in the north between the British and the Irish for 30 years in the north of the country with terrorist attacks quite frequent, even on the British mainland, this lead to some anti Irish sentiment and even today the Irish support the EU more and there is less hostility towards immigrants than in Britain. The British lead the way in science and technology with Belfast in being the only major manufacturing city in Ireland thanks to it’s British population resident there. Scotland is much more similar to England than Ireland is anyway, the people are ethnically far more similar to the English, if anything the Scots are more accomplished in the avenues of science than the English are. Getting back to Spain we must remember that somewhere in the region of 10% of their dna is from N Africa and the middle east, there would be more of a similarity in culture if they both shared the same religion not forgetting also that half of N Africa is not even indigenous to the region having migrated from the middle east since the Islamic invasions so if we look at N Africa at the time of Christ it would have been an extension of southern Europe, it is sort of like Turks and Greeks who are essentially similar but the religious difference makes the two countries feel more like different continents.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Agathoklis
  108. hfel says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    It seems to me the condition is precisely the opposite: Northern Europeans have always had more of a puritanical zeal than Southern Europeans, who have to a good degree retained a certain pagan practicalism and common sense. That’s why you had witch burnings in Scandinavia and Britain, not so much in Spain or Italy. And to this day, we see much more conformist virtue signalling in the North than in the South. I think the real axis on which this operates is Platonism vs Aristotelianism — Northern Europeans have always been idealists in the philosophical sense, whereas Southern Europeans value more concrete things in life. For the North, philosophy becomes a highly abstract matter for a search for the veritate aeternis, whereas for the South, it’s more a matter of practical life advice and learning to live in a world where there is never any certainty. And remember also that when Luther came along, it was not like he was some great skeptic questioning all dogmas of society; to the contrary, he held that the Church had lost the right teaching of Christ, had become corrupted by centuries of worldly traditions and needed to get back to the original, pure dogmas of Christianity.

    Personally, I have lived in Sweden for 3 years and I have not met a more boring and less inquisitive people who cannot fathom stepping out of their society’s dogmas.

    • Agree: utu
    • Thanks: Theophrastus
    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  109. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    True, though, aren’t I?

  110. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    Anyone who can write that doesn’t know the *real* English.

  111. @Iris

    North Africans are not welcome in Spain and are hated deeply by at least 50% of the population.

    Now we are experiencing waves of “minors” who commit crime and occupy valuable property, and this socialist government does nothing to deport them.

    The North African upper and middle classes are exporting their scum thanks to our corrupt elites. But the populace would vote for the deportation of most North Africans if they had the chance to hold a referendum.

  112. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    If you actually knew what you are pontificating about, you would know that the Scots originally came from Ireland, hence Gaelic was brought to Scotland by the invading Scotti tribe.
    There is little genetic difference between the Scots and the Irish.

  113. @Anonymous

    North Africans do seem very prone to crime, violence, and sexual aggression.

    Southern Euros are comparably more civilized. Though the men are very “forward” around women.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @Agathoklis
  114. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    I’m sure you’d make similar demands if I claimed North African crime rates weren’t high?

    Here’s some studies the creator of graphs has done, were he goes into his methodology:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266675939_Crime_income_educational_attainment_and_employment_among_immigrant_groups_in_Norway_and_Finland
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339213786_Public_Preferences_and_Reality_Crime_Rates_among_70_Immigrant_Groups_in_the_Netherlands

    Here’s some graphs of official statistics with sources linked down below:

    • Replies: @Iris
  115. Billkills says:
    @Iris

    You say “The divide in Britain is socio-economic, not racial.”

    And so it is the same all over the world…. Hahaha…. NOT

    You sound like someone who never left its big multicultural city surrounded with good “socialists minded” people holding the political correct speech.

    What a bubble you live in.

    I hear the Marxist song… /// People do not see colors or races because we are all equal///

    There is no “social construct” of racial distancing: it is into the subconscious, it is genetic and the research I post below proved it.
    Sure, people learned to live together but it does not mean that the great majority want to blend…
    And from this point, it proves that there is a divide into our engineered “multicultural societies”.

    Here is the abstract:

    “The current research expands upon the sparse existing literature on the nature of bias against interracial couples.
    Study 1 demonstrates that bias against interracial romance is correlated with disgust.
    Study 2 provides evidence that images of interracial couples evoke a neural disgust response among observers Ð as indicated by increased insula activation relative to images of same-race couples. Consistent with psychological theory indicating that disgust leads to dehumanization, Study 3 demonstrates that manipulating disgust leads to implicit dehumanization of interracial couples. Overall, the current findings provide evidence that interracial couples elicit disgust and are dehumanized relative to same-race couples.
    These findings are particularly concerning, given evidence of antisocial reactions (e.g., aggression, perpetration of violence) to dehumanized targets.
    Findings also highlight the role of meaningful social units (e.g., couples) in person perception, an important consideration for psychologists conducting social cognition research.”

    https://www.academia.edu/26989394/_Yuck_You_Disgust_Me_Affective_Bias_Against_Interracial_Couples

  116. hfel says:
    @Iris

    I guess there may be some selection effect involved whereby the more criminal elements undertake the move as opposed to those who are well-established in their home countries, but nevertheless disproportionate MENA crime in Europe is a statistical reality, just as much as is the lack of East Asian crime, for example. Denying this doesn’t make you any better from the blank-slatist progressives. Why are French prisons full of Arabs? It must be all that white supremacy after all then. I do suppose that being people of lower IQ and higher time preference than Europeans, their crime rate in their homelands which are pervaded by a strict and traditionalistic authoritarian culture may well be considerably lower than in liberal Europe, which doesn’t impose as many outside delimiters on behavior due to the inherent lower time preference, cooler temperaments and higher individualism of Europeans.

    • Agree: Billkills
  117. Iris says:
    @Some Guy

    Thanks for sharing the full articles.

    Other than verifying by oneself, the two things that matter most to judge the value of a scientific work are the credentials of the author and a satisfactory peer-review process.

    In this case, the author is not a formally trained statistician/scientist, does not work in academia, and his article was not peer-reviewed.
    Please do not take it as a criticism of the opinions you hold, but in a standard work environment where statistics are used routinely (manufacturing), such methodology would never be accepted at face value: these are not straightforward correlations of natural variables, a lot of data processing was used to create artificial variables and reach the conclusions, so there should have been independent reviewers.

    May be the article’s conclusions are valid, may be they are not. In any case, everybody on this thread agrees with you anyway. Cheers.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
  118. @Billkills

    I did understand the “so they say” about immigration. I was only trying to demonstrate the mental gymnastics and slight of hand all governments use to hide the destruction caused by immigration.

    I haven’t followed it lately, but the government bonds pension plans buy are usually long bonds – 15-20 years. While many of those have and are coming due, the last 6-7 years the banks have taken over sovereign debt, pushing pension plans into lower quality bonds and higher risk investments. Either way, the great wealth transfer to the 0.1% will happen sooner or later.

    I am always uncomfortable with “based on” when it comes to the “Nazi” post war plan. The EEC wouldn’t have got off the ground had France not agreed, irrespective of what Germany wanted. Given both NS Germany and Fascist Italy were mortal enemies of the bankers, it would seem “based on a 3rd Reich blueprint” would be only as far as which countries would be in a possible trade bloc. The 3rd Reich’s preference was trading commodity for commodity, something the EEC cum EU could never conceive. Given the “blueprint” started development during the war, and was based on Germany winning the war in the areas of conflict, which were at a low level even in 1940, it is difficult to believe that it was part of the “grand plan” pre-war – a war Germany tried to avoid.
    I suspect that a 3rd Reich model would differ significantly, operationally speaking, than the EEC cum EU model. They seemed to understand that all countries doing all things ends up badly.
    As an aside, all plans are provisional:
    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/revealed-americas-secret-war-plan-invade-canada-15359

    • Replies: @Billkills
  119. @JohnnyWalker123

    they are foeward around women

    Lol, no they are not.

  120. Some Guy says:
    @Iris

    Well, I also linked stats directly from national statistics showing Moroccans have high crime rates. Secondly, social science academics are pretty useless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ullu_yTzuY

  121. Billkills says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Yes, I see.

    Sure, the politicians always played the appeasing card through the downgrading of any social or economical negative impact of non-European immigration on European societies.
    Only East-Asian made it well.
    The first immigrant waves was often introduced into the blue-collar building blocks that had been created during the 50-60s to house the new industrial rising worker mass around big cities.
    As the non European immigrants number was growing, around the 70-80s the Europeans started to move out: violence, rapes and various street crimes was growing, as well as a cultural divide.
    So immigrants found themselves building their own “ghettos”.
    I have lived it myself as my family had to move out.
    So few here can give me lessons about this phenomena.

    As underlined by @hfel the African way of life is rather different.
    In north Africa, traditionally and in small towns/villages, kids are let running the street late and make much of their education with their surroundings: should one break a window, he would be apprehended and turned back to his father, often with a double “kick in his butt”.
    In Europe and in those blue-collar places, people see a crime, maybe call the police and wait for justice to be done… So most of the time, nothing happens and the crime stays unpunished: consequences are rare and kids are growing wilder and bolder.
    It´s an observation I made with my own experience.

    Also, young Arabs or sub-Saharan Africans, especially Muslims, do not respect Europeans as they would respect their own elders.
    They are often distancing themselves from Europeans as parents try to preserve their cultural heritage.
    The “kafir” vision can be strong…And so European women can often be seen as “meat” for fun.

    The “multicultural society” our elite was speaking about has never really happened even if people interact much in big cities.
    Actually, cultural identity is coming back and youths from immigrant background who was born in Europe and been growing up with integrated parents, are now often searching themselves through religion and dogmas from abroad: hence the ease ISIS had to recruit young Jihadists.
    A cleavage is actually growing as open societies have peaked.
    It is also part of the cycle we are entering: societies will close.

    You will find what you look for about the EU here.
    France had its Napoleon and De Gaulle dreams but ultimately, it´s the German who was handed the stick or should we say, the German chemical&pharmaceutic industry.

    https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2012/12/the-nazi-roots-of-the-brussels-eu/

    https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2006/09/roots-of-brussels-eu/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12018877/The-truth-how-a-secretive-elite-created-the-EU-to-build-a-world-government.html

    The North American Union was planed to follow the same path.
    https://www.cfr.org/report/building-north-american-community

    The EU started in 1951 with the Coal & Steel treaty.
    NAFTA was a similar treaty.

    The process is simple as Jean Monet confessed:
    “Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”

    And to conclude, Joseph Stalin said once:
    “Divide the world into regional groups as a transitional stage to world government.
    Populations will more readily abandon their national loyalty to a vague regional loyalty than they will for a world authority.
    Later the regions can be brought together all the way into a single world dictatorship.”

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Curmudgeon
  122. Miro23 says:
    @Billkills

    The process is simple as Jean Monet confessed:

    “Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.”

    True enough. In his book “Memoirs” he makes it quite clear that he was aiming for the USE (United States of Europe), with a central government and functioning similarly to the USA.

    The growth of the EU has been accompanied by a great deal of deception – with the EU administration having no real accountability. They fully sold out to corporatism with whole swathes of EU industry being shut down (along with the skills and employment) and outsourced to Asia.

    The idea that they are looking after the best interests of the European public is laughable fantasy. They’re the same globalized, debt/QE Davos, Bilderberg crowd.

    • Agree: Billkills
  123. neutral says:
    @Iris

    No, everything is racial now. Being white of any class means you are a demon, the self flagellating upper class whites are just doing it because they hope that waging war on the lower class whites makes them safe from the non white hordes (it won’t though).

  124. @Iris

    North Africa actually ranks among the lowest in the world in the list of incarceration rate per capita

    Good on them! They’ve probably sent most of their criminals to Europe to spread their crime waves there and those caught are languishing in European jails.

  125. Bork says:
    @Iris

    If you actually knew what you were pontificating about – which obviously you do not – you would know that ‘northern Europe’ was Catholic and devoutly Catholic for a good half millennium before the Reformation came along.

    In England, at the very least, the religious persuasion of the nation was wrought by politics and nothing but politics.

    This belief is a popular folly among american christcucks. Christianity spread across Europe as a form of organized crime pretending to be a religion, but the translation of the bible into local languages was forbidden, and the priests preached to the peasantry in latin, which they did not understand. The population was thus not christian at all, only the theocracy tyrant class was. It was not until reformation that christianity became accessible to the peasantry, where it quickly fragmented into a large number of sects as every schizophreniac decided to have his own flavor of christinsanity based on his favorite passages from the bible. Most of these nutties left for the americas where their children now are crackpot christinsanian fundies or have upgraded to SJWism.

    • Thanks: Iris, Theophrastus
    • Replies: @Poco
  126. Alfred says:

    It seems that they are preparing us for a new viral attack. The NYT is a useful tool for this.

    Everyone should know by know that China lost half its pigs due to African Swine Fever. China had half the world’s pigs. Somehow, this thing appeared in China just in sync with the economic war being waged by the USA on China. The numerous biological laboratories of the USA in Africa have absolutely nothing to so with it. 🙂

    New strain of swine flu virus spreading to humans in China, say scientists

    • Replies: @GMC
  127. Alfred says:
    @Billkills

    mostly invested in state bonds which are basically worthless to this day since none of those states ever had the intention to borrow to this point and repay their debts.

    This is a very important point. The European Central Bank cannot copy the Federal Reserve. The law prevents it. If interest rates rise, the ECB will go bust as the bonds they have bought will drop in value.

    Martin Armstrong strongly recommends that people to get out of EU bonds. The bonds are going to become perpetual. It is the only way to keep the ball rolling for a bit longer.

    What is Different This Time Between 1987 & 2020 – 33 years Later? | Armstrong Economics

    • Agree: Billkills
  128. Quinsat says:
    @Anonymous

    1) No scientific proof Sars Cov 2 is an infectious agent and has ever killed a single person. Google Koch’s Postulates and/or try and buy it.

    2) If you want to know who’s really run off with the loot, read the wise words of Mefobills
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=MEFOBILLS

  129. Anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Southern Europe? But there are no Asians there. And I know covid-19 only kills Asians because Unz told me. You guys, your credibility is completely shot.

    I know, write an article on how George Floyd actually died during those 9 minutes from covid-19 because he had Asian ancestry. And then do the planet a favor, and disappear.

  130. @Oliver Elkington

    The genetic similarities between Greeks and Turks; although I’d be careful about overstating it as the Turks show a significantly higher central Asian admixture particularly as you move East, is because most Turks are Turkified Hellenes, Armenians, Assyrians and other Anatolian populations.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Alfred
  131. @hfel

    Congratulations. That is very well said.

  132. @JohnnyWalker123

    Southern Europeans have some of the lowest violent and sexual crime rates in the world.

  133. @Svevlad

    In Finland the true unemployment rate in May was 16.5%. This was according to the latest official The Ministry of Economic Affairs and Employment’s (MEAE) statistics. The data is collected from the actual registers unlike that of Statistics Finland (Tilastokeskus) that collects information by calling certain amount of people; if person has worked (incl. even NGO) 1 hour or more per week that person is not unemployed! To my understanding this number is “compatible” with EU statistics. According to them the unemployment rate in may was also really high, 10.6%. Anyhow, the unemployment in Finland is huge and almost on the same level (19%) when in early 90’s Finland had great depression after financial currency turmoil and loosing 30% of total exports due to collapse of Soviet Union. Finland was just an hour away from insolvency and IMF. But for some reason people are calm indicating that the Great S has not yet hit the fan. I am looking forward to the (horror) show that propably takes place in September or so when reality hits. And our lady government has taken billions of loan not only to keep people happy but advance their political promises like genderneutral traffic signs and other important stuff like intersectional feminism – yes that’s the official policy now. It also seems important to keep up public image by smiling in nice dresses for whatever publication like Vogue and supporting BLM and condemning hate speech etc. In addition more loan is taken in order to allow the EU to support Italy, Spain etc. – who btw have lower taxation levels both for income and VAT! Insane. But out birdbrained ingenoius politicians say that public loans are good because actually they never have to be payed back! This was uttered in our parlament and is aggressively supported by the media. So who is this nice creditor? Or is it now so that public spendings are actually a leasing scheme and addition to the traditional taxation? Well what happens when e.g. interest rates some day increase due to what ever crisis, Fitch lower our rating, etcc. The rates have always increased historically. Then what?

  134. @Levtraro

    Your conclusion is not supported by your linked article. The article is journalism about a study. The article reports analysis of wastewater daily samples that show increasing levels of SARS-Cov2 genome between January 2020-March 2020, consistent with an incursion from China. Analysis of frozen wastewater daily samples from January 2019-Decamber 2019 were ALL NEGATIVE for SARS-Cov2, except for ONE DAY: March 19, 2019, and the amount found was “very small”. The March 19, 2019 sample result is an outlier, likely from contamination, and is meaningless.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  135. @Baxter

    The social and hc systems are separatd but there are mutual agreements between countries concerning e.g. pension schemes when working in another country. When I worked in Sweden pension payments from my salary were payed to Finland according to the agreement. Also I have EU wide healthcare covered so if I get sick abroad I can use local public hc. But Finnish government pays the bill. EU does not (yet) collect taxation euros from countries. No doubt this is the goal, in other words federalized EU. The present emergency loan package is the first step in this direction. People just dont undestand it yet.

  136. GMC says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I agree – population growth of a country is a ” nature taking a course of natural events” in most countries. The younger population leaving and taking a job in another country is partially the fault of that mother country and it’s in country policies. The EU is the other forced factor of the economic well being of the 27+ countries in Europe. An intelligent country makes its immigration laws, that benefit the country with people that will fit in and contribute to the well being of that country. The EU has destroyed that, so now the blame is on citizens, not having enough children, in order to keep that country – healthy ? The US Open Unlimited Immigration Laws of 1965 – destroyed this healthy, sovereign concept, and the Zionists are to blame – as they are – for the EU abortion. A healthy country can bring in the right people – but only if their laws are sovereign and instilled in that country. Of course, this is not in par with he NWO concept. Thanks

  137. Z-man says:
    @Anonymous

    Sicily and Tunisia aren’t that far geographically but if you just look at the faces, especially of the men, you can easily see a racial difference bigger than the gulf (actual body of water) between those two areas. And we’re talking Tunisia here, with Algeria and parts of Morocco, the most Europeanized part of north Africa.
    There’s that savage look in their faces that always makes me raise my Spider Sense.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  138. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    France is not part of southern Europe. It is essentially a north African colony.

  139. Surprisingly, you’ve left out your favorite bete noir, the Gypsy, out of your base calculus… you must be going soft in your old age, Durocher!

  140. GMC says:
    @Alfred

    Thanks Alfred – You must be aware of all those bio labs south of you , that are partnered with the US military and big Pharma by now. I heard Zelinsky’s regime openly said, that their bio labs are secured and are partnered with the US, in order to keep the public safe from any foreign or terrorist leaks and other problems. lol Why would Ukraine need Biowarfare Labs operating in their country, if they weren’t intending on using them against Russia ?

    • Agree: Alfred
  141. Alfred says:
    @Agathoklis

    Turks are Turkified Hellenes, Armenians, Assyrians and other Anatolian populations.

    Some Turks did DNA tests to find out how closely related they are to Ulubatlı Hasan. Much to their horror, they discovered that they are nothing of the sort. I believe this type of DNA testing has been banned in Turkey – bad for morale. 🙂

    DNA-based tests shake Turks’ beliefs in their “Turkishness”

  142. Whitewolf says:
    @Thomasina

    After watching a show called “The China Hustle” the other day I wouldn’t trust any economic data coming out of China. If you have netflix it’s worth a watch to educate yourself on just how easy it is to be fooled by profit numbers when parties both inside and outside of China have a vested interest in pumping up the figures.

  143. Z-man says:
    @João Antunes

    According to your post Portugal, which was probably the darkest of the European races to begin with, is lost to the brown wave (invasion).

  144. Z-man says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    Yes, La Pen is a flawed and inferior standard barer. France needs a Salvini or even a Meloni type. Both have more carisma and political skills than La Pen.

  145. What about Israel’s eastern European immigration explosion? What about the eastern European American-Israelis? Or the eastern European S Afrikaner Israelis?

    Projection politics

    • Replies: @Iris
  146. Herald says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Yes, the US seems by far the most likely candidate. Perhaps the habitual China basher “Tusk” should have a look at some of Ron Unz’s work, next time he feels the urge to get totally out of his depth.

  147. @Swarthy Greek

    Having spent time in Portugal last year, I’m not too surprised at his perceptions. And as he says there is careful segregation in many places. But the trend is clearly in the direction he describes.

    I say this because I also visited 20 years before and Portugal was full of Portuguese at the time. Weird huh. Same with Italy BTW, though of course Italy always had more tourists.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  148. padre says:
    @Anonymous

    What is your point?China is not responsible for other counties poor response to virus!

  149. @The Alarmist

    Correct. Our streets really are paved with gold from the perspective of third world migrants. The flood has hardly even begun, and it won’t stop until Europe and America are ruined, or people becoming willing to defend them.

  150. Z-man says:
    @anon

    Funny but not completely wrong.

  151. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    The deluded elites wont really get it until the non-Europeans start winning elections. The elites of course think they can split the vote by paying multiple minority candidates to run in elections to cancel one another out to retain power for the establishment candidate. But after an election or two of this, the former minorities will get wise to it. What then banksters?

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  152. Dan7 says:

    Look at Turkey ,without kurds Turkey tfr will be the same as the average western european country

    • LOL: Alfred
  153. @Iris

    That’s a load of crap. Every time there is a stabbing by a Nafri the old ‘mental illness’ nonsense is trotted out.

    There are plenty of Scots and Swedes with ‘mental illness’ that don’t go around stabbing gay men to death. The fact that there are so many Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian rapists (etc) is not an accident. Centuries of inbreeding eventually takes its toll.

    Witness the fights between Chechens and Nafris in France recently. They are so detestable that even other muslims get fed up with them.

    • LOL: Iris
  154. @Dieter Kief

    Are housing and other benefits provided to these European Mexicans?

  155. @Z-man

    Sorry to interrupt your cuck parade, but Europeans are actually more violent than North Africans (and especially West Asians).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Murder rates for European countries (selected for no immigrants, poorer economies, with the exception of Liechtenstein)

    Moldova: 4.10
    Latvia: 4.36
    Gibraltar: 3.01
    Liechtenstein: 2.64
    Ukraine: 6.20

    Murder rates for North African countries (selected for less Negroid admixture):

    Morocco: 1.42
    Algeria: 1.36
    Tunisia: 3.05
    Egypt: 2.51
    Libya: 2.50

    It always amazes me how many delusional people are on this website, most of them probably Jewish middle aged hags pretending to be male. North African faces look pretty meek and cucky to me.

    • Agree: Sya Beerens, Iris
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @utu
  156. Iris says:
    @Sya Beerens

    What about Israel’s eastern European immigration explosion? What about the eastern European American-Israelis? Or the eastern European S Afrikaner Israelis?

    This ones are a “untouchable”, so are never mentioned by the “Alt-Right”.

    Don’t be such a killjoy, dear, remember what these articles are really about: we ought to be ecstatic as we are celebrating the ascent of a new political ideology called National-Zionism.

    • LOL: Sya Beerens
  157. Anonymous[664] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s official, The First Millennium Revisionist is none other than Guillaume Durocher.

  158. Poco says:
    @Bork

    Downgraded to SJWism. Otherwise exact. Ha ha.

  159. Mefobills says:

    Thank you Miro for hitting the nail on the head.

    The disguised economic purpose is first, and then the superstate follows.

    In the process of creating the Euro, there were gross errors made. The errors are so gross, it appears as if purposeful.

    Treaty of Lisbon does not allow sovereign government deficit spending to account for interest, or losses to other economies.

    Sovereign bonds are on-sold and land in private banks. For example, Greek bonds typically land in German Banks. Bonds then grow and make demands of issuing countries that do not have enough future Euro’s to pay said demands.

    Austerity is then trotted out as the neo-liberal solution. (Jewish false thinking)

    Economists like Richard Koo have proposed solutions to the Bond problem. Nobody listens of course.

    In a nutshell, mercantile countries like Germany want to export goods in excess and import Euros. The Euro’s are imported from the periphery. Periphery is put into trade deficit, where Euro’s are exported instead of goods. To supply new Euro’s to Periphery (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain), said periphery countries were induced into property bubbles, which simultaneously increased personal debts.

    Euro countries are allowed to issue sovereign bonds, which put them into debt to private banks. New bonds are also issued to pay old bonds, which gets periphery countries into a debt trap.

    Note that debt mechanics to periphery were frivolous and allowed the equivalent of a drunken party of consumption, with no counterpart in production. Periphery had a debt hook thrust into its mouth based on false economy.

    Yanis Varoufakis tried to explain this stuff to Bureaucrats in Brussels, but they could not comprehend. The agents of Mammon want their pound of flesh.

    Every now and then proper monetary science is comprehended. Any new debts that are formed must have a counterpart in production… not speculation and not consumption. New debts ideally are harnessed to improving overall scientific and productive capability of the country.

    Mustache man in Nazi Germany understood.

    “Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talks of the sovereignty of Parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.” ~ William Lyon Mackenzie King

  160. Whitewolf says:
    @Anon

    The deluded elites wont really get it until the non-Europeans start winning elections. The elites of course think they can split the vote by paying multiple minority candidates to run in elections to cancel one another out to retain power for the establishment candidate. But after an election or two of this, the former minorities will get wise to it. What then banksters?

    If the American experience is anything to go by they’ll do fine no matter how many non-Europeans there are. European Americans haven’t had any political representation for decades despite being a super majority in the country all that time.

    A diverse group of third world citizens will be even easier to control through divide and conquer. The only thing holding the diversity crowd together right now is hatred of White people. That can easily be switched to hatred of each other with different propaganda.

  161. Mefobills says:

    Southern Europe, or any economy can recover. In wizard of oz, Dorothy had silver slippers (silver money) and all she needed was to tap her heals together. Wizard of Oz is an allegory for the depression (financial storm) U.S. was in.

    A healthy host shakes off its financial parasites.

    __________________

    https://ellenbrown.com/2015/07/14/grexit-or-jubilee-how-greek-debt-could-be-annulled/

    The Eurocrats could end the economic crisis by writing off odious unrepayable debt either through quantitative easing or by changing bank accounting rules. But ending the crisis is evidently not what they are up to. As Michael Hudson puts it, “finance has become the modern-day mode of warfare. Its objectives are the same: acquisition of land, raw materials and monopolies.” He writes:

    Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and other debtor countries have been under the same mode of attack that was waged by the IMF and its austerity doctrine that bankrupted Latin America from the 1970s onward.

    Prof. Richard Werner, who was on the scene as the European Union evolved, maintains that the intent for the EU from the start was the abandonment of national sovereignty in favor of a single-currency system controlled by eurocrats doing the bidding of international financiers. The model was flawed from the beginning. The solution, he says, is for EU countries to regain their national sovereignty by leaving the euro en masse. He writes:

    By abandoning the euro, each country would regain control over monetary policy and could thus solve their own particular predicament. Some, such as Greece, may default, but its central bank could limit the damage by purchasing the dud bonds from banks at face value and keeping them on its balance sheet without marking to market (central banks have this option, as the Fed showed again in October 2008). Banks would then have stronger balance sheets than ever, they could create credit again, and in exchange for this costless bailout central banks could insist that bank credit – which creates new money – is only allowed for transactions that contribute to GDP in a sustainable way. Growth without crises and large-scale unemployment could then be arranged.

    But Dr. Werner acknowledges that this is not likely to happen soon. Brussels has been instructed by President Obama, no doubt instructed by Wall Street, to hold the euro together at all costs.

    • Replies: @A123
  162. Z-man says:
    @JohnPlywood

    ‘Cuck parade’? ‘Delusional’? ‘Jew middle aged hags’? That last one deserves a loud LOL!
    ‘North African faces look pretty meek and cucky to me.’ Now who’s delusional and/or you must be one.
    You also use that word cuck a lot. You must have some first hand experience. Now get lost.

    • Replies: @Vingo
  163. Z-man says:
    @HammerJack

    Portugal will ‘brown’ more quickly & easily than Italy because of its longer colonial history and because of Braaazil.

  164. Agent76 says:

    Jun 30, 2020 What Herd Immunity Looks Like

    Life is normal in Stockholm. This is exactly what Dr. Fauci is trying to prevent in the US.

    Jun 30, 2020 YOUR WAKE-UP CALL

    As people mindlessly follow the narrative of health authorities that continue to lie to the public, we are at a critical juncture in the future of humanity. Will critical thinkers prevail? Or will we be forced to blindly follow medical authority with an agenda?

  165. @Mefobills

    Mefobills states The Golden Rule Macro-Economic of Self-Discipline:

    Every now and then proper monetary science is comprehended. Any new debts that are formed must have a counterpart in production… not speculation and not consumption. New debts ideally are harnessed to improving overall scientific and productive capability of the country.

    1) If this necessary-for-survival-free-of-enslavement-by-Jew$ principle can be gleaned from any other source, please inform; and

    2) The critical need for this discipline is why Jews must be excluded from government, finance, academia and all the other points of opportunity for subversion from which Jews were precluded by societies like Constantinople to enable thriving of the founding people for a millennia or beyond.

    Jews conceptualized and promoted Libertarianism to vilify the concept and necessarily natural functions of government to facilitate Jew ability to attach themselves in parasitical positions for private profit in functions which should properly be purely governmental:

    “Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talks of the sovereignty of Parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.” ~ William Lyon Mackenzie King

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Mefobills
  166. A123 says:
    @Mefobills

    Austerity is then trotted out as the neo-liberal solution. (Jewish false thinking)

    Periphery had a debt hook thrust into its mouth based on false economy.

    Yanis Varoufakis tried to explain this stuff to Bureaucrats in Brussels, but they could not comprehend. The agents of Mammon want their pound of flesh.

    On the economics, you are largely correct. However, you seem to have misplaced the underlying cause.

    The SJW Globalists of Brussels comprehended the situation. It was a deliberate trap they created to brutalize periphery nations into submission. Anti-Semitic Austerity was the SJW liberal solution (Muslim false thinking) to inflict pain on Christians & Jews who wanted to keep their culture and protect their citizens.

    Of course, the SJW Gobalist Elites also want to control Germany. To that end, Mutti Mullah Merkel and her welcome rape-ugees initiative was intended depress the economy and bring Anti-Semitic Austerity to core EU nations.

    Step #1 in any EU recovery program is imprisoning traitorous collaborators, including George IslamoSoros and Mutti Mullah Merkel.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Iris
  167. @João Antunes

    How easy is it to become s voting citizen?

  168. @Iris

    QUESTION

    We all know Latin Americans are a hybrid race.

    Why did the fusion of Spanish and Native American genes create this?

    Spain is not a violent society. I’ve been there.

    Brazil was settled by Portuguese, why is it so dangerous?

    Why are Latin American societies intrinsically dangerous?

    My understanding is that the Indians of Central America came from Asia. Why are they more dangerous than Asians?

    Why were British better settlers than Spanish? British lager louts are the worst in Europe, so why do they make better colonists and Ohio is safer than Mexico?

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
    , @Iris
  169. @Kratoklastes

    I was thinking of clicking a lazy Agree when I decided to prefer my usual sort of constructive nitpick. E.g. how does your formula for improvingon GP take account of knee
    or hip reconstructions which get people back on the playing field or otherwise back to work and are performed in public hospitals at heavily tax subsidised cost?

    • Replies: @Alfred
  170. @Some Guy

    Despite what you say to Iris I find your graph almost meaningless. Can you please explain your point – and the graph.

  171. trickster says:
    @Mefobills

    Mefo Bulls, you read a couple of pages from a book or an article here and there and then write what you consider to be informed, profound, earth shattering….

    If the twaddle you write were so simple any jackass could subscribe to the Economist magazine and become the king of international finance.

    There is a reason why an accounting designation or an MBA takes years of study. Every competent financial practitioner will tell you that when you complete those years of study YOU KNOW NOTHING. You must now go out into the world and practice what you learned and that also takes years for proficiency if indeed that is ever attained.

    You may not understand this concept so let me propose a simple example. Suppose you had to have surgery. When you show up at the hospital the nurse says “Dr. X will be the surgeon, he just graduated from medical school yesterday and top of his class”. Question: Would you put yourself in Dr X’s hands? If it is a case of brain surgery he may be just the man as all he would have to do is blow the stale air out of Mefo’s empty head. A can of compressed air applied against your right ear would be sufficient to blow those cobwebs out your left ear thus preventing future headaches and dizziness.

    Mefo Bull, when you enroll in a book keeping correspondence course advertised on a box of matches there is the certain danger you will get a glossy impressive certificate a man with the shits would not even wipe his ass with. This is clearly the problem you have.

    You dont know one thing about finance international or otherwise. I dont know if you are just plain stupid, have nothing to do or want to impress us here on Unz. You sound intelligent to fools and a fool to the intelligent.

    Finance to you is like the opera to a chimpanzee !

    • Troll: Alfred
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  172. A123 says:
    @Mefobills

    By abandoning the euro, each country would regain control over monetary policy and could thus solve their own particular predicament. Some, such as Greece, may default, but its central bank could limit the damage by purchasing the dud bonds from banks at face value

    Government debt is only part of the problem. Under your scenario…

    What will happen to Greek corporate & personal debt?

    Under EU law adjudicated by EU courts, those debts will stay in denominated in Euros (€). Owing € and selling in devalued Drachma is an obvious scenario for business failure. A devalued Drachma would leave non-governmental debtors prey to Austerity from Brussels. As Greek taxpayers go bankrupt under the burden of € denominated debt, the inevitable result would be a new Austerity trap.

    The only way out is devaluing the Euro € itself. Italy, Greece, and other nations should create new fiat Euros, and pay 100% of debt in full. The fiat printing would clear government books, and eliminate the need to deal with non-governmental debt agreements. The fiat devalued € currency would align with periphery national, business, and individual ability to pay.

    If this immediately drives Germany out of the Euro currency, that would be a desirable side benefit. An appreciating Mark would allow FX forces to curb excessive German exports.

    It does not make sense for any sovereign nation to permanently cede the ability to have a sovereign currency. A string of fiat printing events would create the long term conditions to end the failed Euro currency experiment in an orderly manner.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  173. I really cannot imagaine why any of the countries are willing to remain in the EU. It is basically a proto-type of everything not to do!

  174. Mefobills says:
    @trickster

    any jackass could subscribe to the Economist magazine and become the king of international finance.

    The Economist magazine is a Rothschild operation.

    Either you are a disinfo agent or an ignoramus.

    If you object to facts, you can politely disagree with said facts rather than casting aspersions.

    • Agree: Alfred
  175. @The Alarmist

    It’s impossible for a 3rd worlder to immigrate. They can’t get a visa and that’s what separates immigrants from illegal aliens and refugees.

  176. Mefobills says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    1) If this necessary-for-survival-free-of-enslavement-by-Jew$ principle can be gleaned from any other source, please inform; and

    The American system of economy with Hamilton’s first report on credit and manufacturing in 1789. It is not overt, but implied in the way the first bank issued state credit into the commons and industry.

    https://wwnorton.com/college/history/archive/resources/documents/ch08_02.htm

    Richard Werner is probably the most vocal economist today on this “golden rule.”

    Classical Economy is being resurrected, and to my mind it is the only school of thought able to comprehend what is good debt from bad debt, unearned income from earned, and so on.

    Or we could all read the Economist and become steeped in false (((neo-liberal))) economics like the trickster recommends.

  177. utu says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Nonsense. Northern Africa has on average 2-5 times higher murder rate than Western, Central and Southern Europe. Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova do not represent Europe yet but rather the Soviet vomit that has not yet dried up. But once the influence of Russian Asiatics Russia is diminished they will catch up with Poland and Czechia that have 0.7 homicides per 100k. Some Asiatics like Fins, Estonians and Hungarians may never catch up.

    Tiny Liechtenstein had just ONE murder.

    • Disagree: Alfred
  178. @Guillaume Durocher

    Would you please repair the one great omission I see in your analysis.

    You say nothing of the voting power of immigrants and their children and grandchildren. Nor is the time it takes to become a citizen and any qualifications required. The Gulf States aren’t threatened by their imported labour forces. Why should democracy open themselves up to change by fertility or ease of becoming voting citizens.

    After WW2 Australia made citizenship ridiculously easy to obtain but got away with it and it’s selective immigration seems to be continuing its luck.

    My formula would be to require 10 or 15 years of net taxpaying and English language proficiency before Anyone in a family became a full citizen with the vote.. indeed my solution to Israel’s problem with over fertile Palestinians is to include them in a single state but create a powerful sencond chamber of the Knesset for which only met taxpayers of 15 years standing could vote. That should put the problem off for 100 years.

  179. @Sya Beerens

    In 500 years of Empire that is not a very bad rap sheet compared to most. Some of those events, Partition, the Mau Mau were the local elites jostling for postion. Before Britain, there was no India and it was in a state of constant war between feudal powers.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  180. @A123

    The Euro hasn’t failed. It is a tool of federation. It is working.

    • Replies: @A123
  181. Levtraro says:
    @Bombercommand

    Even one day with positive results for SARS-CoV-2 in March 2019 is sufficient to prove the new coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan, China late in 2019. That is pure and simple logic.

    Your speculations about contamination of the samples is not what the authors of the study are saying and they have their paper under review right now; they know best about their samples.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  182. Iris says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Why are Latin American societies intrinsically dangerous?

    I have my own empirical explanation, and I am convinced it is the correct one.

    In our day and age, and apart from situations involving failed states and ensuing total lawlessness, the number one cause of violent crime in societies is drug trafficking.

    Not only the extreme profits generated exacerbate the level of violent crime and destroy the social fabric, but it also gravely damages the national ethos by producing acts of gruesome cruelty because the perpetrators are most of the time out of their mind.

    Now, is drug trafficking a “cultural” thing? I don’t think so. The Talibans had reduced opium production to nil before the US invasion, after which Afghanistan became the principal world supplier. When under the Warsaw Treaty umbrella, Albania and “drugs” were never ever associated. Now, the country has become the main heroin transit platform to Europe.

    Large-scale drug trafficking can only be organised and enabled by state actors. This is why it is pointless to point at the small dealers, but miss the big pictures: that medium-size proxy states (Morocco, Colombia, Mexico, Afghanistan) take charge of production, where their IC state sponsors in the US, Israel, manage the global traffic network.

    I read here a lot of comments about Blacks’ alleged “natural” proclivity to crime.
    But what about Cuba? Why is a Caribbean country in the middle of traffic routes, with social conditions gravely undermined by economic sanctions, a large majority Black population, primarily run by European Whites, one of the safest and most peaceful in the world? (I think it ranks the safest for women). Well, one of the reason is obviously because the Cuban government has zero tolerance to drug trafficking, contrary to our “liberal democracies” who organise it all by themselves. In name of sacrosanct “profit”, of course.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  183. A123 says:
    @Philip Owen

    The Euro hasn’t failed. It is a tool of federation. It is working.

    I do not think that federation is the correct term.

    If you were to say, “The € is a tool of authoritarianism and oppression”. That would be much closer to the truth.

    PEACE 😇

  184. @Philip Owen

    2.000.000.000 lives is the total in 2 centuries

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  185. Mefobills says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Addendum:

    Drawing attention to Hamilton’s statement… see link previously provided:

    that he ardently wishes to see it incorporated, as a fundamental maxim, in the system of public credit of the United States, that the creation of debt should always be accompanied with the means of extinguishment. This he regards as the true secret for rendering public credit immortal.

    Hamilton’s first bank had a sinking fund that provided for paying off foreign debts, but after his death sinking fund wasn’t used as intended.

    The American system of economy was a “credit” system that did not require Gold/Silver at high interest rates. The Credit was created at debt. The new money (credit) flowed into productivity modes. This is the true secret, is to extinguish debts with improved productivity.

    Euro system is designed to fail because it ignores first principles. Disinfo agents constantly put up clouds of confusion, when basic principles are fairly simple.

  186. Iris says:
    @A123

    The SJW Globalists of Brussels comprehended the situation. It was a deliberate trap they created to brutalize periphery nations into submission. Anti-Semitic Austerity was the SJW liberal solution (Muslim false thinking) to inflict pain on Christians & Jews

    The Hasbara troll is in a good mood and is making jokes at the Goyim’s faces again.

    It was very accurately, albeit diplomatically, demonstrated by Yanis Varoufakis in his opus “The Global Minotaur” how Wall Street and the US, post-WW2, planned and set up two ancillary monetary systems, the Euro for Europe and the Yen for Asia, in order to dominate the financial superstructure of these two key regions.

  187. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Housing and free medicare; wandering laborers are nothing new in Europe. They existed for ages. Average income in Russia for simple jobs: 300 Euros (if that many). Glass ceiling for incomes in Macedonia, Albania, Rumania, the baltic states: 500 Euros. Very few people earn more.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  188. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact is that the most diverse and, most often, zealously diversitarian parts of the Western world – Germany, the Netherlands, the Nordic countries, Great Britain, the United States, and the former White Dominions, mostly of north-west European and Germanic background – continue to be more economically dynamic.

    Northern Europe and its colonial offshoots continue to be better at creating economic wealth – despite being hobbled by African, Islamic, and Hispanic minority populations which represent an economic drag relative to the natives – than comparatively homogeneous southern European nations and their colonial offshoots (namely the Whitish nations of Argentina and Chile, which have a fair amount of Amerindian blood).

    Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Spain and Italy are both quite diverse. The Southern part of Spain is very Arabic/Islamic. Italy is close to Libya. Germany is a lot less diverse than France, yet economically far ahead. So much for diversity generating wealth.

    Northern Europe succeeds because of its Germanic/Protestant roots. Southern Europe lags because of its Latin/Catholic roots. The core issues that separate the two are societal values. Protestantism emphasizes integrity and hard work. Catholicism pardons all sins with Three Hail Marys, and cherishes a laid back lifestyle.

    • Replies: @Fray Juan Crespi
  189. Che Guava says:
    @Iris

    What a moronic gaslighter this ‘Iris’ is.

    The ‘Cologne General Prosecutor’ is clearly a professional liar.

    This reminds me of the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, where despite numerous video records and eyewitness accounts, blacks dindonuffin.

    It also corresponds to the current wave of BLM ‘peaceful protests’ with numerous murders and maimings for life.

    You can find about ten hours of it on U-tube alone.

    Fuck your gaslight!

  190. Sokrates says:
    @João Antunes

    Well you had colonies in Africa some time ago didn’t you?

  191. Vaterland says:

    I was going to say “good article”, but the conclusion

    In the long run, I am talking 30-40 years, we can expect that northern Europe will become so dysfunctional that people prefer living in southern or eastern Europe. Non-Whites currently make up around 20% of the north-west European population. When this rises to 40 or 50%, we can expect the situation to get very unstable indeed.

    is totally absurd. Especially 40% non-white NW Europe is crossing into David Icke territory. This invites crackpot conspiracy theorists. I can’t speak for France, which seems demographically worst off, although that has been the case for decades now, but Germany has around 2.4 million Turks – we even have about the same or even slightly more Poles now, depending on which statistic you look at – which are not only immune to islamist terrorism, but would be counted as white in countries like the USA. And we have well below a million S.S. Africans. The refugee crisis of 2015 will remain a singular event, which only brought 400k Syrians into this country anyway. Far left and diversity ideology will remain a threat, but its influence will increasingly shrink through the rise of nativist populism, the EU adapting to it and the rift to the Anglosphere, including the USA, and a greater integration with Russia and China. It takes much longer than many had hoped, but it’s happening. And none of the conditions we have would even remotely suggest an actual “collapse” or “total dysfunction” of our nation. Or a future great attraction to Southern Europe, let alone Eastern Europe.

    Europe will generally continue its path of further integration, fortunately and without a real alternative in the age of global empires, become a supra-national union. The damage which nationalistic chauvinism has done to the continent and cost us our world leadership in both World Wars is behind us and both Brexit and Trump were striking examples against such tendencies. And Bolsonaro. There will be economic and demographic concentration in one spot or another like there is in the USA, but further harmonization will increasingly smooth things out. And the political chaos, debt and somewhat dysfunctional system in Italy is nothing new at all. More business as usual.

    It’s a better time for Pan-European thinking peoples now who see a common destiny for the European people as a whole, a not so good time for national chauvinists. And that’s a good thing. Anyone who undermines European solidarity and integration was, is and will remain a useful idiot of Europe’s enemies.

  192. @Billkills

    I agree, for the most part. My point was that NS Germany was not a corporate state, it had nationalized several industries, implemented higher employment standards, which it enforced, and was at war with finance capital. They were not popular with many capitalists. Hitler himself referred to an economy that meets the needs of the folk, not one where the folk meet the needs of the economy. To call the EU a Nazi blueprint is, in my opinion, out of context. “Based on” is something out of Hollywood. There may be some factual part, but the representation of those facts is most often twisted.

    • Replies: @Billkills
  193. @Levtraro

    It is clear that you do not understand the meaning of the word “outlier”. The March 19, 2019 positive for SARS-Cov2 is an outlier. This is glaringly obvious in the context of 364 days of negative results for 2019 and three months of daily positive results for January 2020-March 2020, with increasing amounts of SARS-Cov2 found as the sample results move from January to March. All data sets have “outliers”. Outliers are routinely removed, otherwise false conclusions result, such as yours. Your error is particularly egregious. You ignore 364 negative results for 2019, and base your conclusion on the one positive result, a positive result for March 19, 2019. To give you an idea what I am getting at, if the one positive result for 2019 had occurred on December 31st, it is unlikely it is an “outlier”.

    • Replies: @anonimo11
    , @Levtraro
  194. Pft says:

    The game should be obvious by now. The developed world, Western Europe , Japan and North America in particular, will undergo depopulation and reduced living standards. The goal is Sustainable Development.

    The developing world will have stagnant growth and population reduction, mainly among the older people

    The third world will be kept poor. Population will increase or remain the same to maintain their poverty

    In every location life expectancy will decline, especially in the developed and developing countries. Maintaining an elderly population that does not work is not sustainable.

    Thats all it is. Your philosopher kings, the global elite are your Gods, not to be questioned, just obeyed. You must swallow their Noble Lies or be sent to reeducation camps or recycling camps (harvest body organs and make soylent green for fake meat) .

    This is your world. Too bad for the dystopian entertainment industry. People wont have any need for dystopian fiction as this is their reality, the new normal.

  195. @Vaterland

    “Anyone who undermines European solidarity and integration was, is and will remain a useful idiot of Europe’s enemies.” What sort of solidarity was that? I would also like to see a “United states of Europe” but i cannot really see that happening when so much of Europe fails to agree on key matters like how many immigrants do we take in? how much tax should people pay? what should our key industries be?

    Europe has generally been disunited, especially over the past 40 years, it may not look like it with the EU growing in size from just a few members but the way different European countries approach these vital questions i put above remains divided. Maybe the very different countries that make up the EU will start to work together properly in the near future but i cannot see that happening when they don’t agree over key issues.

    • Agree: A123, hfel
    • Replies: @A123
  196. Che Guava says:
    @Vaterland

    Very German. Well, it is your empire, for now. I suppose that you are also a fan of former DDR functionary Mutti Merkhin?

  197. A123 says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    Maybe the very different countries that make up the EU will start to work together properly in the near future but i cannot see that happening when they don’t agree over key issues.

    You are correct.

    As you can see from his handle, Vater’s core value is lesser European nations submitting to German led SJW Globalism. He honestly believes Europeans will follow a Fuhrer from his land. Mind boggling hubris, but very German.

    Real Europe is becoming Christian Populist and turning against the German led SJW Globalism of Mullah Merkel. Their holding action in Italy, Austria, Greece… is running out of steam. The failure of brown shirt Macron’s supporters in France’s recent elections is a leading indicatior.

    No one wants to unify behind Vaterland’s SJW values and rape-ugees.

    PEACE 😇

    • Thanks: Oliver Elkington
    • Replies: @Oliver Elkington
  198. Z-man says:
    @Vaterland

    …. Especially 40% non-white NW Europe is crossing into David Icke territory. This invites crackpot conspiracy theorists…..

    Jews will replace you.

  199. Billkills says:
    @Curmudgeon

    The economic model of the National Socialists was very Keynesian and as a matter of fact J. M. Keynes liked Hitler´s economy and even Mussolini praised Keynes for his “fascist economics” vision.
    See here:
    https://mises.org/library/hitlers-economics

    “Fascism entirely agrees with Mr. Maynard Keynes, despite the latter’s prominent position as a Liberal. In fact, Mr. Keynes’ excellent little book, The End of Laissez-Faire (1926) might, so far as it goes, serve as a useful introduction to fascist economics. There is scarcely anything to object to in it and there is much to applaud.”
    Benito Mussolini.
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1248410

    That´s what we have now: a Keynesian economy or full blown state intervention through central banks.
    Don´t be fooled by the “private” Fed : it follows the Congress.
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/central-banks/is-the-fed-public-or-private/

    This stuff only works for a while: such economic models can never last.

    To underline a bit what I mean…
    The National Socialist politic is Left : not Right.
    Calling NS “extreme right” is a lie and propaganda to protect Socialism.
    The Left´s ideology is state/central bank intervention.

    “My political sentiments inclined toward the left and emphasized the socialist aspects every bit as much as nationalist ones.”
    Adolf Eichmann
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1105736

    And see this.
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1107986

    I said that the EU project was inspired by what was planed by the NS and that it was under the banner of the IG-Farben group.

    Corporatism needs “big government” to build its monopoly.
    I think this phrase describes it well.
    Corporatism is the destruction of the free market and the creation of corporate monopolies achieved through the regulatory and monopoly power of strong central government

    The EU´s “father” and founder of the Paneuropean movement, Richard C-Kalergi wrote his Paneuropa book in 1923 and started the Paneuropa movement from 1926.
    The idea is not new at all. It was taken back by different forces.

    What is the EU now?
    A corporate/state project with a central bank steering the show.

    “The establishment of a central bank is 90% of communizing a nation.”
    Vladimir Lenin
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1461247

  200. @Sya Beerens

    4 centuries and we didn’t save 2 billion. The population did increase from 135 million in 1600 the year the East India Company arrived in India to 389 million in 1941. The Sultans and the Rajahs welcomed the EIC as a competitor to the Portugese, Dutch, French and Danish already in place. Everybody made money, especially the French who ruled most of India (usually forgotten) until the Nawab got greedy and attacked the EIC. With the support of the Sultan the EIC then removed the French (Maharatra, Mysore) from India. Never side with the French against the UK.

    2 Bn dead is a Hindutva fantasy like $45 trillion. Your arguments have more validity if you keep them real.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  201. @Dieter Kief

    Quite so. The English word for a skilled workman, especially in the building trades is Journeyman. I believe the German word is similar although it is polite to call everyone a Meister?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  202. @A123

    Well thank you, i wish i could agree on what you said but i cannot really see much of Europe becoming Christian populist, Italy never seems to make up it’s mind about being against the EU and it’s delights of cultural standardisation with open borders and the many Italians i have met here in England are firmly to the left as far as cultural matters go, if anyone is to save the day it has to be the northern and eastern British along with the Danes, Austrians Norwegians, Polish, basically the Baltic/Slavic peoples apart from the Swedes who appear very much to be in Macron and Merkels camp. In Europe the Mediterranean peoples are still too wedded to the idea that the left can solve all the worlds problems, you see it in the states where people of Italian descent are more Democrat leaning than the Germans or Scandinavians.

    • Replies: @hfel
  203. @utu

    Another delusional cope from a cuckoid. Hungary’s murder rate is conparable to Luxembourg:

    Western Europe has lower murdee rates than North Africa due to less poverty, though the poorer areas (Ireland, Scotland, Gibraltar) have the same murder rate as the North Acrican countries I posted.

    The soviet union had a lower murder rate than the 80% Western European USA:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_Soviet_Union

    According to Western experts, robberies, homicide and other violent crimes in the Soviet Union were less prevalent than in the United States because the Soviet Union had a larger police force and had a low occurrence of drug abuse.

  204. A123 says:

    Italy never seems to make up it’s mind about being against the EU and it’s delights of cultural standardisation with open borders and the many Italians i have met here in England are firmly to the left as far as cultural matters go,

    You may be right, but a few things to think about.

    Those that leave a location to go elsewhere usually have a built in bias towards “more open borders”. After all, it is difficult to defend strong borders after one has crossed them. Italians in England are likely have material differences versus Italians who stay in Italy.

    Italy certainly has a problem with Catholic lead Christianity. The current Pope is at best useless, or at worst a Dhimmi collaborator. If you want to say that Italy’s resistance is mostly Populist with little Catholicism, that would be fair.

    Nord Lega and other “right” Italian parties escaped the “left” pro-EU weakness that doomed Syriza in Greece and 5 Star in Italy. For good or ill, it is much easier to find backbone and willingness to act when one is “in the EU’s crosshairs”. The authoritarian EU has brutally punished Christian Cyprus, Greece, the UK, etc. The Italian people know they are next. And, recent history provides vivid, painful examples of the inevitable outcome for submission to SJW Globalist Elites and German Austerity Economics.

    Italian parents will look at their children and realize that the only way for their posterity to have a future is to resist German oppression before it is too late. Perhaps I am optimistic, but I believe that the people of Italy are unwilling to repeat the errors of the 1930’s and 40’s.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Z-man
  205. Z-man says:
    @A123

    From your keyboard to God’s ears. I’ve been telling Italians to get out of the Euro now. It will be rough but it can be done. Freedom doesn’t come easy.

    • Replies: @A123
  206. A123 says:
    @Z-man

    From your keyboard to God’s ears. I’ve been telling Italians to get out of the Euro now. It will be rough but it can be done. Freedom doesn’t come easy.

    See my comment up at #173.

    Leaving the Euro is a poor option due to the structure of the EU. The EU courts can find ways to punish outsiders by going after companies and individuals. Look at their despicable behaviour towards the UK.

    Italy’s better choice (like Greece’s) would be declaring that currency is a sovereign power (a.k.a. competency in EU jargon). Then using that sovereign power to print Euros. The structure of the EU is poorly designed to cope with open defiance by an insider. Assessing fines against a nation that will print currency to pay them is futile.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Anonymous
  207. Z-man says:
    @A123

    Italy’s better choice (like Greece’s) would be declaring that currency is a sovereign power (a.k.a. competency in EU jargon). Then using that sovereign power to print Euros. The structure of the EU is poorly designed to cope with open defiance by an insider. Assessing fines against a nation that will print currency to pay them is futile.

    That’s too complicated. A clean break is needed.
    Thanks for pointing out your comment #173. I don’t see your scenarios happening. No two tier Euro. Germany aint gonna leave the Euro, it’s basically theirs. If Italy leaves it will put pressure on France to do the same and then Germany can have her own Euro with her satellites, the Benelux trio, Denmark, Finland, Austria etc.

    • Replies: @A123
  208. @Sya Beerens

    …Then why do so many Boers come to UK. When I was a young man in London, they were employed everywhere. Mostly in the labor sector.

    Oddly enough, Boers don’t return to Netherlands. They go to UK or Australia, not Holland.

    And of course Latin America has its own aparthied system. At the bottom of it are the Indians.

    How many European Latin Americans who look like Vincente Fox immigrate to America. Its all Indians.

    Of course I take your point. Britain had some failed colonies in Africa as well.

    But why did the US and Canada and Australia fare better than most Spanish colonies.

    The most common reason I’ve heard is simply that Brits went as families and that also Brits were less likely to have their way with Indians and create a mestizo class.

    The Brits simply blasted the Indians.

    Another words, British colonies were a civilized picnic and Spanish colonies were a raucous boys night out that were all-male

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
    , @Sya Beerens
  209. Anonymous[645] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vaterland

    You are talking shit – and deep down you probably know it.

    The fertility rates of *real* ethnic Germans are abysmal, and have been abysmal for well over 40 years. More real Germans die each year than are born. Cities such as Frankfurt are tending towards a majority non European population, black/brown immigration into Germany continues apace …. so called ‘family reunification’, guaranteed by the EU of so called ‘refugees’ will sky rocket, need I go on ?
    The non European majority character of Germany by 2100 is a *FACT* which cannot be doubted.

    The EU is viciously, institutionally anti white and will only get more vicious in that direction. It is the mini me of the US Congress, only 20 years behind.

  210. Anonymous[645] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sya Beerens

    Absolute fucking obvious rubbish.

    The bastards are *FLOODING* here by the hundreds of thousands. Every. Single. Fucking. Day.

    Only a a dirty fucking liar or the deaf, dumb and blind can’t or won’t see it.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  211. @Philip Owen

    I was not talking about skilled labor. That’s why I chose the expression wandering laborers. It’s precise. I actually know some of them in person. A Romanian couple for example. The wife has a Bar near Salamanca/Spain. He works in Spain, and part of the year in Switzerland, during wintertime, he is in Romania. Their daughter studies in Romania, where they have a house. His wife closes her Spanish Bar in the summertime, to work the strawberry and raspberry fields in Switzerland. They do not talk too much about what this Spanish Bar-business does or does not include.

  212. @Philip Owen

    I was just quoting Noam Chomsky

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  213. @Jeff Stryker

    How many centuries old are you?!

  214. @Jeff Stryker

    You just want to BE right all the time. DO right not so much……. self-deception

  215. A123 says:
    @Z-man

    That’s too complicated. A clean break is needed.

    If Italy leaves it will put pressure on France to do the same and then Germany can have her own Euro with her satellites, the Benelux trio, Denmark, Finland, Austria etc.

    Alas, this scenario impossible due to the Euro € Currency trap. Let me reframe the question from #173.

    What will happen to Italian corporate & personal debt?

    No nation can leave “to devalue” because there is no way to protect individuals and businesses that owe € denominated debt to non-Italian lenders. It would be a very dirty break.

    Fixing government, business, and individual debt in one shot is the clean break solution. Unilaterally devaluing the € is very clean, as it is based on a simple sovereign act. It only seems difficult because it is not part of the current zeitgeist.

    PEACE 😇

  216. @Anonymous

    So you live in a banana republic.

  217. Vingo says:
    @utu

    Stop talking crap, I lived 20 years Algeria and murder rate there is very low compared to Europe, not even talking about USA or latin america. People have traditional and religious values and they stick to them, they don’t believe in destructive materialism of the judeo-protestants (money is more important than people and life)
    So please, keep your shitty unproven theories. People here are peaceful and they are far less violent than you may want, so you can frighten people…

    • Agree: Sya Beerens
    • Replies: @hfel
  218. Vingo says:
    @Z-man

    It is funny how you blind and deaf hater want to change facts… homicide rates are facts, and north africans are way more peaceful than europeans or americans, I lived there for a long time. Your job is to frighten people so you can achieve your otherwise non-achievable goals. But you just spread false ideas out of thin air, like the FED is doing with its dollars…

    • Agree: Sya Beerens
    • Replies: @Z-man
  219. anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:

    despite being hobbled by African, Islamic, and Hispanic minority populations which represent an economic drag relative to the natives

    Easily compensated by increasing the plunder of those nations whence these “free-loaders” came from. After all that should come easy for the whitevil euRapeans, with their centuries of satanic expertise at this.

  220. anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @hulijo

    major crises in Africa and the Middle East which will once again bring millions of migrants on Europe’s doorstep

    If indeed that comes to pass, and quite possibly it will, we can sure that it will be the euRapeans who expedite this crises.

    At that point, either someone who is ready and willing to sink every boat trying to reach Europe takes over or Europe collapses.

    Genocide comes naturally to the whitevil. I have no doubt your accursed kind will easily find that “someone.” If fact, there will be no shortage of them. It’s who you are.

    • Agree: Sya Beerens
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  221. Alfred says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    how does your formula for improving on GDP take account of knee or hip reconstructions which get people back on the playing field or otherwise back to work and are performed in public hospitals at heavily tax subsidised cost?

    In the grand scheme of government expenditure, things like that are less than a rounding error.

    I am very grateful for a full knee replacement due to a car accident. It cost the Australian taxpayer (my ex-wife) $20,000 – but she pays $1,000,000 in tax every 10 years (the lifetime of my metal toy). Additionally, at least another $1,000,000 goes out in GST (general sales tax) during that period – directly or indirectly. I guess 1% of her tax goes towards fixing my knee. 99% goes elsewhere. 🙂

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  222. anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    ”Catholicism and Islam are ultimately very similar“

    I don’t particularly have much idea about the values imbued by Catholicism, and how it may be similar to Islam. Ok, perhaps there are some similarities between them (the modesty of the nun, and the hijabi, for example).

    Values aside, there is no similarity between Catholicism (just another sect of pagan Christianity) and Islam. If that woman truly believes this, then most probably it is because her man is more of a cultural muslim, to make her believe this nonsense. I hope for his sake, I am wrong.

    The pagan polytheist wo/mangods-worship of Catholicism and the true monotheism of Islam are polar opposites, and never the twain shall meet. The pagan-ness of Catholicism is anathema to the uncompromising monotheism of Islam.

    I repeat, there shall be no compromise with the Oneness of God, or any pagan association with the One God of all existence. Period.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  223. anonimo11 says:
    @Bombercommand

    there are many outliers corroborating one another. The French results showing CV present in France in December. The interview with the italian expert posted here early on stating it was present in italy in November. The brazilian result. The vape ‘epidemic”.
    I even have an acquaintance who got back from Wuhan in November and developed pneumonia shortly after. CV has been around a while…

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  224. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    Thank you for your comments, Iris.

  225. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Banner_of_the_Holy_Wounds_%28Pilgrimage_of_Grace%29.svg

    This was, possibly, the North’s moment. Ironically, that same conservative termperament that lead to a rebellion also snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. North could have dictated terms to London, but instead the rebellion’s leaders body parts were displayed at various points of interest in England.

  226. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Genocide comes naturally to the whitevil. I have no doubt your accursed kind will easily find that “someone.” If fact, there will be no shortage of them. It’s who you are.

    You, yourself, would of course never characterize another society as, say, “whitevil” and try to destroy it through ethnic replacement.

    It would appear that we have an irreconcilable conflict here.

  227. Z-man says:
    @Vingo

    Please move back to the shit hole you lived in. Crime is high only with alien populations in host countries, fact!

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
    , @Vingo Vreez
  228. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Italy’s better choice (like Greece’s) would be declaring that currency is a sovereign power (a.k.a. competency in EU jargon). Then using that sovereign power to print Euros.

    Such a display of bad faith would, IMHO, lead to emulation by several other countries (Greece, Poland), and the breakup of the EU. Nifty!

  229. @utu

    North Africans never talk about their colonial European experiences….. which tells a lot about people like you.

  230. @Z-man

    That’s what The Palestinians and the rest of the colonized planet would say if given a voice.

    Scream louder it’s very convincing…..

    • Replies: @Z-man
  231. @Alfred

    You are to be congratulated. You married well and presumably escaped in a timely way and you married a shrewd tax planner who contributes with due modesty to the care of the ME born that our not our premium New Aussies. And congratulations on being able to avoid my point which was to ask Kratoklastes how his formulae dealt with such positives-amounting to much more than a rounding error in the provision of taxpayer funded services😎

  232. @anonymous

    In common….. Both responsible for the biggest – too rarely mentioned problem – excess human fertility. In common, and connected, failure to undergo Reformation and Enlightenment.

  233. Z-man says:
    @Sya Beerens

    WTF r u talking about Joo?
    Please put me on your ignore list.

  234. Iris says:
    @Sya Beerens

    Turns out France’s 1960 Sahara nuclear bomb tests poisoned the whole of Northern Africa and Southern Europe

    On the occasion, in the midst of the Algerian independence war, a trademark act of colonial cruelty was committed by the French army.

    On April 1, 1960, the second French nuclear test took place, code-named “White Gerboise”, with a bomb rated around 4 kilotons.
    The shooting was an opportunity to study the resistance of military equipment (aircraft, vehicles, parts of ships…) to a nuclear explosion, as well as its effects on live rats, rabbits and goats.

    In addition, 150 live Algerian prisoners were tied to posts about 1km from the Ground Zero detonation centre, and exposed to the direct effects of the bomb for experimentation purposes.

    These facts were uncovered after German eyewitnesses, members of the French Legion, deserted and later testified on record to film director Karl Gass Deutsche Film-Aktiengesellschaft DEFA).

    The overwhelming majority of the French people is totally unaware of such crimes, and at the time already, approved De Gaulle’s 1961 referendum for Algerian self-determination.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_French_referendum_on_Algerian_self-determination

    Nowadays, and unsurprisingly, only the Alt-Right and the Zionists still praise the “beauty of colonialism”. The latter because they illegally occupy Palestine, the former because they have become Israeli pawns.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  235. @anonimo11

    anomio11, you also obviously do not know the meaning of the word “outlier”. If the March 19, 2019 positive was NOT an outlier, then there would have been positive results for SARS-Cov2 genome for EVERY DAY March 19, 2019-December 31, 2019 with the least amount of genome found on March 19 then steadily increasing amounts day by day with December 31, 2019 having slightly less than January 1, 2020 when the three month period of true positives began. Sorry dude, March 19, 2019 is a false positive, it is garbage data, it is an OUTLIER. You must face the fact that the COVID19 outbreak started with a breach of containment in The Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    • Replies: @anonimo11
  236. @Iris

    Those are MANNEQUINS, not human beings in your posted photo. It is so obvious it is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Alfred
  237. Iris says:
    @Bombercommand

    Those are MANNEQUINS

    Actually, the official response provided by the French Ministry of Defence in 2007 was that corpses of dead Algerians had been used to assess the effects of the explosion.

    This explanation was ridiculed: names of the alleged dead could not be traced, the location of the explosion was hundreds of kilometers remote in the middle of the Sahara, one of the hottest places on Earth with no means to transport and store 150 corpses.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  238. anonimo11 says:
    @Bombercommand

    I do not claim it was around in March. I do claim it was around in Fall. That, and I am a “cui bono” fundamentalist.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  239. @Z-man

    Such ignorance is depressing… this is why the Western Countries are declining. They used to have very educated populations (academically speaking) who could fit in their advanced societies (science, information, economy, military, diplomacy), but it is not the case anymore… decades of moral and intellectual decay have past and the populations now have a lower intellectual and cultural level. They spend their time consuming and partying…

    At the end of the day, western countries get people like you who are useless for them to stay on the top:
    1-they are not well educated
    2-they are older and older and they don’t want to raise kids because it is too hard and it doesnt let them have the eternal teenager life they want (the pinnacle of auto-destructive materialism)
    3-they abandon “hard” sciences and high academic degrees (masters, phd). They prefer easier but useless college degrees (hard sciences are at the core of the human development and the advanced modern societies).

    Now the rest of the world has closed the gap and a lot of countries became developed so it is a matter of keeping the western living standards.
    Why do you think western countries have millions of job offers for very qualified people (medicine, engineering, biology, physics, chemistry, mathematics…): because low qualified people like you cannot do them. So they bring in a lot of very educated and qualified people from the south to do them…

    For example, in France more than 20 per cent of doctors are from north africa, the legendary french healthcare system (which is a arguably the best in the wold) depends heavily on foreign physicians. Same thing in engineering and other hard sciences.

    The problem is that western top leaderships know that if they don’t bring in the well educated foreigners from the south, western countries will soon be overtaken by emerging powers and lose their living standards, they have to leech this vital flow of highly educated young people to be able to sustain competition with emerging powers and to stay on top… and by doing this they slow the emergence of these south countries you despise because they take the most skilled people from them.

    So the biggest winner in this deal is not who you think. The westerners are the big winners. While the qualified immigrants are also relatively winners at a personal level, southern countries at macro level are the losers BIG TIME.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Miro23
  240. @Anonymous

    Where do you live please? I am French too and I don’t see what you describe.
    It is true that Europe is facing a big immigration risk because it is close to Africa, but I think you are exaggerating…

    Those people coming from the south are just looking for a better life, it is human. The italians, the spanish, the portuguese, the belgians came en masse during the last 2 centuries to france in search for a better life. We can still close the borders and pick who can immigrate to our countries.

    I lived in an immigrant neighbourhood in Paris, people were fantastic. My neighbours were always ready to help and the majority are good hard-working people. A lot had low paying jobs that the lazy frenchs won’t do (garbage collectors, butchers, risky jobs, jobs that need you to begin work at 5 a.m, night shifts…), others were highly educated and skilled people. They werent aggressive and they were respectful with respectful people. They just don’t like to be treated like sub-humans (neither do I).
    They might dress with a hijab or speak in arabic sometimes and it is true they are more family-prone, but everybody lives his life as he wishes as long as he doesn’t affect you negatively, this is freedom.
    If westerners in general don’t want to raise children it is their personal choice, so why would they dictate it to people who want big families. If you want more whites, just marry and raise children ! That is what a lot of people do.

    The only people who used to deal drugs for example are the ones who looked for a job for so long, nobody would hire them because of their name or their race (racism exist here too) so they deal drugs and then become addicted to easy money…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  241. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sya Beerens

    I was just quoting Noam Chomsky

    You’d have done better quoting Micky Mouse. He had good writers.

  242. @Iris

    My point is you have used a photo that clearly shows mannequins with a statement that is meant as a caption to that photo claiming “live Algerians were tied to posts” and exposed to a nuclear blast. After that gaffe, how do you expect anyone to take any of your claims on this matter seriously?

  243. Anonymous[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    the majority of cub’s population come from the canary islands, blacks only live in the cities. the rulers are crypto-jews, not “european whites” the galicians asturians etc mostly have left the country. the castro family and others in the communist party have been trafficking cocaine since the 1960s. lastly the blacks there aren’t “peaceful” you should have lived in cuba in the 1990s like me and seen the horrific things they did during foot shortages after the USSR collapsed. they are kept in check because they cannot claim to be oppressed in that country because everyone is “equal” under the law and claiming racism against someone without reason can get you and your family in big trouble. it’s a degenerate hellhole police state with no freedom and only stupid westerner/westernized spoiled brats think that. imagine believing the statistics put out by the cuban government, let alone any government and believing them to be fact.

  244. @anonimo11

    Bobbing and weaving and making arch insinuations doesn’t cut it. You MUST make a positive assertion. For example, I assert the COVID19 outbreak is the result of a breach of containment at The Wuhan Institute of Virology. What do you got? Be clear and concise.

    • Replies: @anonimo11
  245. Z-man says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    The vast majority of the non white populations in formerly white countries are inferior and a drag to the intelligence levels of the host country. The quality of life declines due to the crime that these inferior populations bring with them. Their inability to function in a modern society makes them disenfranchised and despondent and become an ever increasing burden on the host country. They should be repatriated ASAP.
    You can join them.
    Now get lost.

    • Replies: @Vingo Vreez
  246. @Thulean Friend

    ‘… So far, most of the BLM protests have been dominated by white liberals…’

    No…the media coverage is dominated by footage of white liberals.

    To put it mildly, there’s a difference between that and your claim.

  247. refl says:
    @anon

    My economic understanding is limited,

    Until march this year this would have been a valid argument to leave things to the so called experts and trust your governnent.
    But things have changed irreversably. Even those who steadfastly believe that the policy to stop the virus made sense and was adopted in good faith must by now come to the conclusion that there is no political leadership worth of its name. Western civilisation has been slammed into the wall for good. There is no recovering in economical terns with a political class that cannot tell a threat to their societies from a fairy tale and now keeps covering up endlessly instead of for once having the courage to state clearly that they are pointless, thoughtless fools.

    Next stop Islam.

  248. anonimo11 says:
    @Bombercommand

    whereas my opinion is that the virus escaped Fort Detrick, was around that area last summer, and was intentionally injected into Wuhan during the Military olympic games in October, but was already spreading worldwide.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  249. @Sya Beerens

    Not true, although endlessly repeated by the asylum lobbyists.

    “Third worlders” can get a visa as a student or as a worker or even to look for work in a profession where there is demand (for very cheap labor) in Germany if they are willing or skilled enough or both to inform themselves on the immigration authority’s website and go through the necessary processes This has been made easier and easier over the years thanks to lobbying. In the past, I myself helped quite a few people with the process (Maghrebis, Indians, Turks) referred to me by mutual friends. You can also come as a family member and via sponsors.

    What people from non EU-countries (who are all treated more or less the same) can no longer do is apply for asylum, which sadly has become a ticket to stay and get benefits immediately even if your application is unfounded, as long as they are outside of the European Union, so they have to cross the border illlegaly to gain the right to an asylum application. This was an idiotic hyporitical compromise that should have been scrapped a long time ago.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  250. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    ……. if only it was true.

  251. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    You are as about ‘French’ as I am.

    That is zero.

    • Replies: @Vingo Vreez
  252. “Hopefully, by then , the southern and eastern Europeans will have taken note of their brethren’s mistakes and start taking the necessary measures. I mean the adoption of enlightened biopolitics: the preservation their ethno-national identities (accepting only assimilable immigrants, including fellow Europeans) and systematic policies to ensure their nations reproduce and, more than that, do so with a view to improving genetic and phenotypic quality”

    Hungary and its Visegrad partners are already doing precisely that. They see what immigration and saving of banks instead of populations have done to many EU countries and to the US. Every fiery speech of Viktor Orbàn is filled with nationalistic pride in a logical and wholesome way, with the interests of his people and country in mind. That’s why Brussels and pro-EU progressives elsewhere do their utmost to paint Orbàn as and alt-right zealot and nazi. In the meantime, his stance and its results and especially his disobedience towards Brussels are getting noticed. The Polish leaders have started to copy this stance and more will probably follow. As a Dutchman with my pension years approaching, i wouldn’t mind living in Hungary, as our own government is weak, bows to Brussels, NATO and the US and lets the floodgates open.

  253. @Anonymous

    Of course I am French, and I am a patriot one… don’t be fooled by my pseudonyme…
    You guys like to speak with no proofs, no first-hand knowledge, just repeating what you have been told like parrots… go live your life and get experiences instead of being someone else’s repeater…
    The problem is there are a lot of people like you and they are easy to scare because they just believe without confronting that with their own experience.
    If the immigrants were a group of violent people with “the knife between the teeth” (as we say in France), Europe would have been destroyed a long time ago because there are a lot of them already.
    Instead of that, the vast majority are just normal people from another culture trying to live and work in a new country. In fact they are just humans…
    There are a lot of problems that need to be addressed, some of these people don’t want integration, they want easy life with welfare, but they represent a small fraction, still you take them as examples for all the immigrants… don’t put all the fruits in the same basket, especially when some are rotten…

  254. jay says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Welfare is bound to attract parasites. It’s the nature of people attracted to free resources at no cost.

  255. @Z-man

    We can see your native “intelligence” in display here… You are an insult to us the europeans that work our butts off everyday to get our countries better and who make efforts to stay in the 1st world.
    You are just a basic guy who lives of basic thinking and basic knowledge of life… You can be happy with that if you want, but if you want to destroy our countries by racial wars, I will let you know that you are just a tool for the crypto-zionists.
    Their plan is simple:
    1- bring in foreigners in big numbers
    2- propaganda aimed at the “basic” whites promoting the clash of civilizations , a crypto-jewish theory to destroy their two enemies: sons of Edom (the christians) and sons of Ismael (the muslims).
    3- the two civilizations clash big time although islam and christianity are very close to each other (not talking about the anglosaxon protestants who are a sect of judaism made by frankists)
    4-the crypto-zionists will reign over the ruins of the old world as the New Masters with the NWO as a tool
    5-the few survivors will be slaves for the rest of their lives

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Z-man
  256. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    I still don’t believe that you are a real French man or woman.

    • Replies: @Vingo Vreez
  257. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    Even if they were all hybrids of Mother Theresa, Albert Einstein and Alexei Stakhanov I still don’t want them here in Europe.
    They are a profoundly alien people who don’t belong here. That, alone is a necessary and sufficient condition to shun and reject them.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  258. Miro23 says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    For example, in France more than 20 per cent of doctors are from North Africa, the legendary French healthcare system (which is a arguably the best in the world) depends heavily on foreign physicians. Same thing in engineering and other hard sciences.

    I don’t know about engineering and other hard sciences, but I had a week’s intensive experience of emergency French healthcare (stroke ) on a visit to Paris some years ago – and they did a good job.

    Like you say, the hospital had many non-French staff. The specialist was Rumanian, assistant Spanish and nurses all black African girls (Cameroon). Head of nursing a black African male. Everyone was good humoured and worked together well . They had the modern equipment and it was in continuous use, but there wasn’t any luxury about the place and you didn’t get the feeling there were any big salaries. Also they were dealing with a lot of people in a short time.

    Basically excellent. I had a private room, TV, newspapers and it was free (cost transferred to Spain under EU “Blue Card” reciprocal social security agreement – I pay state contributions in Spain). They had a list of the cost of operations posted in their accounts office.

    I suppose that in an ideal world, all the staff would have been ethnic French, but French society, like the rest of the West, has been so dislocated by ZioGlob finacialization(debt), industrial destruction, Asian outsourcing and mass immigration, that they can only retain their remarkable healthcare system by working with the best of the immigrants (at non-French wage rates).

  259. Z-man says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    It’s a waste of time to talk to you. You are a poser and a liar.
    If anyone knows me on this site they know I’m an anti Zionist of the first order.
    Just because I have the same enemy as Muslims doesn’t mean I want to share my country with them.
    Now, again, get lost because arguing with such an inferior being makes me ill.

    • Replies: @Vingo Vreez
  260. @Z-man

    Inferior being? lol. You are just another cocky guy, there are hundreds of millions of useless craps like you around. Instead of being so self-complacent, would you tell us what makes you superior to me ?
    I just wanted to explain the key problem.
    We have the right to refuse people who come to our countries and to choose who enters, but we cannot insult them and despise them freely, like if we are the only human beings and they are things.
    This is the Talmudic mindset .
    We are not in the 1800s , colonisation is over but some lost people still kept its mindset…

    • Thanks: Sya Beerens, Iris
    • Replies: @Iris
  261. @Anonymous

    You can believe what you want, it doesn’t bother me. If you need french language, french culture or french history lessons just let me know…

  262. @occasional luker

    I have “immigrant” parents who came to Europe 48 years ago, because Europe decided to order former colonies to send in the labor slaves.

    What’s that to you?!

    We’re perfect material for neoliberal war propaganda and that’s not a coincidence

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  263. @Vaterland

    I beg you look at the data. Mainstream estimates suggest the U.S. will become majority non-White in the 2040s, Great Britain in the 2060s, and presumably the rest of north-west Europe around the same time.

    And indigenous Europeans will make up the *older* and less fertile half of that population..

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  264. @anonimo11

    OK, clear and concise. You hold both the Godfree Roberts Thesis(Ft. Detrick accident) and the Pepe Escobar Thesis(bioattack on China) simultaneously. I hesitate to get into this as I have already spent countless hours on Unz Review commenting threads “debating” others who hold such positions, often mobbed by three to six nuckleheads simultaneously. Regarding a Fort Detrick accident, there is no evidence of any outbreak in Frederick Maryland or any municipality near Frederick Maryland. The Springfield nursing home cited is on the outskirts of Washington DC, but no outbreaks in DC. The Godfree Roberts thesis can safely be discarded. The Pablo Escobar Thesis? If you want to push that one the onus is on you to show credible evidence. So far no one has. As this thesis is not falsifiable, it doesn’t qualify as a thesis in any case(eg belief in UFOs is not falsifiable). The evidence of Epidemiology based on genetic tracing of mutations is in however. All evidence points to an epicenter in Wuhan, with strain group A, strain group B and strain group C originating in Wuhan then spreading worldwide. There is zero evidence that strain group A originated in The United States and then spread to Wuhan. The facts are the epidemic began in Wuhan, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology was experimenting with virus chimera very similar to COVID19, and that the Wuhan facility(actually its BSL4 subunit) has longstanding extensive problems with biosecurity including using unqualified personnel in critical tasks. Therefore a breach of containment at the Wuhan lab is the most likely cause of the COVID19 outbreak.

    • Replies: @anonimo11
  265. anonimo11 says:
    @Bombercommand

    i agree. We would get too far into the rabbit hole. I am some sort of cui bono fundamentalist, so that colors my worldview. The chance that the pandemic of the century follows that closely the repo crisis seems, well, quite unlikely. But I can see that you, like me, have spent a lot of time on the subject.

  266. Iris says:
    @Vingo Vreez

    but we cannot insult them and despise them freely, like if we are the only human beings and they are things.

    Today’s news are that President Macron has finally agreed to settle a long-lasting historic dispute with the Algerian government. The craniums of 36 Algerian resistant fighters , killed and decapitated by the French colonial army during a 1850’s episode of the “conquest” of Algeria, have been returned to their country for funeral and burial.

    The French colonial army used to desacrate bodies of fighters, expose their corpses to terrorise and give a lesson to the locals, and take heads to Paris, as personal hunting trophies and also to prove a alleged retarded cognitive development. Over 500 such skulls of Algerian resistants are kept in France, as well as dozens of thousands more from other French colonies.

    This is the true image of colonialism. Such abjection was enabled by the prejudice of racial superiority often in full display on theses threads. Nothing to be proud of, and not the best evidence of Western “civilisation”.

    • Replies: @Nalca
  267. @Vingo Vreez

    Instead of that, the vast majority are just normal people from another culture trying to live and work in a new country. In fact they are just humans…

    LOL. And did the Algerians say the same of the pied-noirs after they got their independence? And now you stand to lose your independence to those you once colonised. And you’re unwilling to fight off and drive out those colonising you unlike the Algerians did to you. Maybe one day you will or maybe you won’t. I just don’t know why you didn’t stay in Algeria and keep pouring in even more European and black African colonists into it and create this globo-homo multiracial diversified melange on their own Algerian soil, and in all your other colonies, instead of in your home country. It would have made sense to carry out such a social experiment on foreign soil and see how it works before deciding if you want to continue with it in your own country or just give up on it because it’s unworkable. It seems to me that those Algerians of old that drove you out were more “human” than you are now, because they were unwilling to accept foreigners on their soil and willing to go to any lengths and make any sacrifice to get them out – and that surely is the human thing to do if you love your own people an your own country. No wonder they don’t respect you and take any advantage they can of you and yours when they land on your shore, just easy pickings for them.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Hartnell
    • Replies: @Iris
  268. Maybe it’s time to downsize and restructure the economy and this Covid-19, real or hoax, seems to be a good opportunity to do that. It is essential to prioritise the following sectors:

    – agriculture, to ensure the supply of food and prevent any food shortages and famines, and
    – public health to ensure free medical services for all citizens.

    Some other suggestions:

    – keep the borders closed and restrict travel except for any wanting to return to their countries of origin,
    – prioritise employment of locals over others and lay off as many of the guest workers, illegals, and
    immigrants who won’t be needed in a downsized economy,
    – expropriate all millionaires and billionaires so that they bear the brunt of the crisis instead of
    profiting from it – their funds to be used to bail out ordinary citizens struggling in these hard times
    of unemployment and to pay off public debts,
    – nationalise utilities – energy, power and water industries.

  269. Anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sya Beerens

    That’s a damned lie from the start.
    Your parents voluntarily *CHOSE* to impose themselves upon Europe.
    Nobody ‘ordered’ ‘labor slaves’ to come here.

    Rest assured everything else you write is a damned lie.

  270. @Guillaume Durocher

    That’s what they in the 1990’s about 2020. Anyways Europeans have a history of genocide and ethnic cleansing remember?

    We do.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  271. Iris says:
    @Commentator Mike

    LOL. And did the Algerians say the same of the pied-noirs after they got their independence?

    The Pieds-Noirs who left Algeria did so by their own will, not because they were forced to. It was a self-designed outcome, the irrational consequence of their terrorist, no-prisoner-taken, all-out war against the inevitable Algerian self-determination, in opposition to De Gaulle’s vision for a negotiated solution.

    The Evian agreements drawing up Algerian independence are very clear: Europeans had the right to stay, to keep their assets and to be granted full citizenship.

    The Pieds-Noirs are an extremely powerful community in France, principally because many of them were Jewish North-Africans who were upon arrival greatly favoured by the existing French power structure.

    Out of France’s 3 main kingmakers, Alain Minc, Bernard Henry Levy and Jacques Attali, the latter two are Jewish Algerian Pieds-Noirs (Minc is Ashkenazi).

    Eric Zemmour, currently France’s foremost political ideologist, is a Jewish Algerian Pied-Noir.

    The Number 1 specialist of the France-Algeria war History is a courteous and affable historian called Benjamin Stora, a Jewish Pied-Noir.

    The list sounds like pages from a celebrity directory, and it is endless: from outspoken showman Guy Bedos, to Islamophobic likudnik singer Patrick Bruel, there are literally millions of Pieds-Noirs and descendants in prominent positions, who have never dared pretending that they had been chased out of Algeria.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  272. @Iris

    It was a self-designed outcome, the irrational consequence of their terrorist, no-prisoner-taken, all-out war against the inevitable Algerian self-determination,

    Well, the Muslims in Europe are doing much the same, terrorising the Europeans while their community harbours, breeds and feeds the Islamic terrorists, so it could play out in the same way if the locals were to get fed up with them and decide to reclaim their own soil. What’s good for the goose is surely good for the gander.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Iris
  273. Iris says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Terrorism in Europe is about as “Islamic” as 9/11 was.

    • Agree: Sya Beerens
  274. al007 says:

    “systematic policies to ensure their nations reproduce and, more than that, do so with a view to improving genetic and phenotypic quality.”

    That is the whole point of admitting all the Africans and “Middle Easterners” to begin with.

  275. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sya Beerens

    So why don’t you go home and save yourself?

    You dirty liar.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  276. @Ali Choudhury

    It’s about being proper aryadharmik nationalist- blut unt soil – why entrust foreigner with agriculturalist honourable occupation
    And same for janitorial work (prevents disease -or any other job- true nationalism is something only one following RigVedic Aryan civilization would comprehend . Respect for sacred ancestral holy lands – international homeland security .
    Sikhism Zarathustra Jainism Buddhism Mithraix Odinist dionysian etc Vedantic aryasufi etc r direct descent of Aryan philosophies religions .
    So i applaud any nation country etc taking steps to ensure agricultural labour is same genetic stock as majority founder of any given polity .
    Vegetaryan foodstuffs r critical as food create thoughts – the spark of the divine within every critter is nourished by quality thoughts which can lead to scientific breakthroughs, regenerate art and personal enlightenment plus superior architecture over time .
    Etc

    [MORE]

    For the record Sikh Panth is at Canada of commonwealth Anglosphere by invitation of founder of Canada 1july 1867.
    Shukria – Anglosphere must become civilization superstate just like Aryavartasthan
    Jeevai jeevai Pakistan Janamsthan SriNanak Maharaj
    Loy Afghanistan
    Khalistan Zindabad
    Hindosthan is fine i guess
    Tajikistan is bestest
    Common defense against kalleypilley mlecch
    Tibet was never chinki
    Once upon a time all africa was purest Persian.
    And Americas’ were arysaka RigVedic Hindu.
    Towards a Persianate Anglosphere v r destined.
    Rights of Man, first enshrined at ancient Persia, are for the obvious children of Man .
    BLM is burn loot murder as per one web forum
    And Bengal is black not bantuafro of wooly hair stalinist .south Africa need fixing – this is Prime Anglosphere land. By the way Churchill promise AfPak Kutch nation at Africa for 2ww sacrifices above and beyond call of duty by AfPakHind kutch – hopefully Horn of Africa ya 🌺Kutch is partially of gujurat Khalistan
    Bengal Bose – gifted discovery of radio ieee accredited
    Second Bose military man attain victory for swastik Fuehrer at Eastern Aryavartasthan
    And Sri Sivananda Lion of celibacy of divine life society – he’s black Bengal too- solid gold actually – power of austerity
    – Xtianity is perverted plagiarism of Buddhism Mithra the Aryan Afghanistan God of friendship and hebrew mumbojumbo especially retarded cain Abel bakwas story – virtue signalling while plotting colonial looting is sina non quon of Xtianity- jebus not
    Bad but Xtianity is a monstrosity – pagan never enslave – Xtianity Ruin Rome – Xtianity enter German lands by violent force the sword – cross is damaged swastik- cross is sinister sign of international thief
    25 December is birth celebration of Divine Mithra Dev the Aryan God presiding over noble ideals of friendship – the ideals that build empires of divine light- nur roshni kiernan Rays of divine Light aNURadha constellation Presided over by divine Aryan Mithr-(a) 🌻
    Nuria108

  277. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:

    We are dealing here not just with liars but *dirty pathological shameless liars*.

    This is a terrible character trait. If this is a typical characteristic of the north African invaders of France – which, I am certain it is – then, an absolutely horrific fate awaits the real, ethnic French in the future.

    The invaders are just not nasty, horrible, criminal people but schizophrenic pathological liars, so fanatical and twisted that they actually even *believe* their own bald faced lies.

    People like that are capable of doing anything.

    A stern warning to the real ethnic French.

    I’m not French and have never been to France, but now I can understand the type of minds behind Bataclan.

    The real ethnic French have been dumped by their politicians in an impossible situation from which they will have to pay a terrible price.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  278. @Anonymous

    *dirty pathological shameless liars*

    And THIEVES! Amazing for people of a religion that chops off the hands of thieves there are ever so many thieves among them, from the pettiest of kleptomaniacs to … well, whatever they can get their hands on. It’s like every other is an Ali Baba.

  279. Nalca says:
    @Iris

    And what the Algerians did for a millennia before ?
    Raiding all the Europeans coasts for slaves.
    Do I need to tell you what happen to a slave who don’t want to work ?

    And look what they did when they got their independence :
    https://www.librairie-pied-noir.com/content/25-massacre-oran-5-juillet-1962

    Since when keeping / exposing the heads of your opponents is linked to colonialism ?
    Every civilization did it at some point of their history.

  280. Anon 2 says:

    The center of gravity of Europe is shifting northeast. This means that
    countries like Britain, France, Italy, and Spain are becoming less
    important

    • Replies: @Iris
  281. Iris says:
    @Anon 2

    In other words, Germany, by its careful and intelligent approach to a normalised relationship and increased integration with Russia and China, is taking back its natural position as centre of gravity of Eurasia, a position that was artificially taken from her by two engineered world wars.

    • Replies: @refl
    , @Hiram of Tyre
  282. Petermx says:

    I don’t know what the solution to the EU’s problems are. There were high hopes when the EU was formed and the common currency was adopted. I think part of the problem is the EU did not abide by the plan as it was stated and didn’t follow its own regulations regarding faltering economies. They overrode those regulations and violated them. I think serious consideration should be given to forming two or three economic blocs with their own currencies. The southern bloc would include Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal. A second bloc would be Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Denmark, Finland and other stronger economies that would want to join such as Sweden, Switzerland and I think certain east European countries “might” qualify also. I don’t know where France would fit best. Would sharing a currency with Great Britain help them? But I think the southern countries need their own currency. It could be looked at similarly to how European soccer leagues are run. Every country has first, second and third tier leagues and when a team performs well it moves up to the top league and if a team falters it drops to the second league. This may not mean the whole EU has to be abandoned but the strongest and weakest economies can’t be part of the same currency and economy.

    I also think countries have stressed equality to the detriment of top performers. Germany’s Alexander Gauland has proposed the country have separate universities for the country’s top scholastic performers. I don’t think this is a novel idea. I think that is the way it used to be.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Johan
    , @Johan
  283. Miro23 says:
    @Petermx

    I don’t know what the solution to the EU’s problems are. There were high hopes when the EU was formed and the common currency was adopted.

    The EU would have been fine if it prioritized the interests of EU citizens with regards to world class education, leading technology, EU manufacturing, skills and personal development.

    The reality is totally different. The EU leadership sold out to the ZioGlob along the lines of Asian outsourcing, finacialization (debt) and mass non-European immigration with the EU executive itself run by a high proportion of homosexual SJW’s.

    The problem is that they still pretend that they’re working for the European public rather than their true masters at Davos and Bilderberg.

    • Agree: Petermx
    • Replies: @Johan
  284. refl says:
    @Iris

    I scratch my head and I cannot understand, how people believe that Germany is in any way commited to a coherent policy of any kind.
    The scenario is that by 2030 Germany and France will no longer play a geopolitical role whatsoever. These countries being the only who could lead Europe in a joint political effort – for good or for bad – this means that within 10 years Europe will be on a level with any third world failed state. Eastern european countries will safe themselves for another generation, if they cut lose from the West, but their days are counted just the same.

    We all know that the destruction of the middle east was a generational Neocon project. You just have to think further in that direction and by necessity the destruction of Europe comes next. What is there so hard to understand that forced immigration, the destruction of the economy and the dissolution of our societies by the corona BS point in the same direction?

    There is a tiny hope that in the course of this breakdown some force of salvation will grow. Expect times to get rougher and don’t stick to vain hopes.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  285. Catiline says:

    Yo Willie: https://www.socialeurope.eu/seven-surprising-facts-about-the-italian-economy?fbclid=IwAR29zYMc7okT6gD3_vxmmpLr1kZ1EVv_1x4PIiygqz_0PoSq1DQcd1ngnqk

    Behind the deadlock exhibited at the June European Council over the recovery fund lay continued scepticism among northern member states of the eurozone as to the entitlement of southern members to substantial financial support—most especially Italy. This disposition is however based on images of the Italian economy and fiscal policies which are at odds with the data.

    That is no accident: over the course of the financial and eurozone crises of recent times, economists, politicians and media have conveyed a distorted picture of Italy and its economy—clichés which European political leaders such as the Dutch and Austrian prime ministers still use today. They fail to recognise that Italy is the second largest producer of industrial goods in the EU, has been running export surpluses over recent years and has often adhered more strictly to the European Union’s fiscal rulebook than Germany, Austria or the Netherlands.

  286. Catiline says:

    Italy overtook the United Kingdom in 1969 and France in 1979 in per capita purchasing power. In 2000, Italy’s average standard of living was virtually equal to that of Germany (98.6 per cent of its GDP per head). But after the introduction of the euro in 1999, the country fell behind the UK (in 2002) and France (in 2005) once more. By 2019, Italian per capita income was more than 20 per cent below that of Germany.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  287. @Iris

    The Cologne “mass sexual assaults/rape razzia” hoax has been debunked by the Cologne General Prosecutor. He publicly revealed that the alleged assaults by immigrants on women on New Year’s Eve were reported too hastily by the international press.

    All lies. It was covered up for 3 days by the news, police, and government of Cologne. The story only broke after lots of talk and footage on social media came to light showing how bad it was. When native Germans later protested against this horror, the police who could supposedly do nothing to stop the rape-fugees showed up with submachine guns, armored vehicles and water cannons. Taking these traitorous scums’ word after this crime is ludicrous, no different than believing the cops who covered up Rotherham *after* all the evidence has come to light.

    • Replies: @refl
  288. Anonymous[783] • Disclaimer says:
    @Catiline

    Italy *simply CANNOT* have exceeded the UK in ‘per capita purchasing power’ in 1969.

    In 1969, huge numbers of mostly unskilled and badly educated, illiterate, Italians were flooding into the UK to work at the very lowest rung jobs – catering, cleaning, agriculture etc.

    Surely, if higher wages could be had at home, they simply would never have come.

    • Replies: @Catiline
    , @VinnyVette
  289. Levtraro says:
    @Bombercommand

    Outliers are routinely removed

    I do understand outliers, but you don’t. An outlier is not false data, it is true data. Did you know that?

    Also, outliers must not be removed, as you assert, that is dishonest practice in statistical analysis.

    Outliers must be explained and included usually by assuming they are coming from a different distribution. You do that using robust methods.

    But I understand your error. Many people think they know statistics, without having formal education, because so many stupid black-box software are there for the uneducated.

    Back to the point of the positive results in Barcelona March 2019, the authors are standing by their findings with their ms. under review. I’m pretty sure they know more about their samples than some random guy like you.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  290. Catiline says:
    @Anonymous

    About Philipp Heimberger and Nikolaus Krowall

    Philipp Heimberger is an economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies (wiiw) and at the Institute for Comprehensive Analysis of the Economy (Johannes Kepler University Linz). Nikolaus Kowall holds an endowed professorship in international macroeconomics at the University of Applied Sciences for Economics, Management and Finance, Vienna

    .

  291. Auch Gast says:

    Lol. Durocher really manages to bring the trolls and bad actors out of the woodwork. All the usual suspects are here with their usual bad faith arguments, trying to insert their shady agendas into the discussion.
    What a sight to behold. If I were to compile a list …

    • Replies: @Catiline
  292. refl says:
    @NobodyKnowsImADog

    You have to know that Cologne Main Station is the center of regional traffic throughout a mayor section of Northwest Germany, which contains a mayor portion of the population and also of the so called refugees were settled there. Having nothing to do, these people went on a regional train on Newyears Eve.

    Next you have to know that the WDR West German Broadcasting Service (the largest and one of the most important party to the ARD federal Broadcasting Service) is located just round the corner.
    Now guess, who was partying there and tried to get home that night? The higher ups had their drivers or afforded a cap, but then there were all the hopeful young interns, all very regular mainstream, well meaning females, who first got assaulted that night and then found out that the event was covered up.
    Now, acussing immigrants of sexual assault is one thing, but denying sexual harrasment is also an issue (or would be, if commited by anyone not of protected minority status).

    So the thing blew up in the media. By now, the young ladies who enter the media business get their brains washed properly, before they get hired.

    What is not correct, though, is to blame it on the refugees from 2015 following. These people just adopted the local habits of their cultural brethren, who have been living here for decades.

    • Replies: @NobodyKnowsImADog
  293. @Anonymous

    “Protestantism emphasizes integrity and hard work.”

    bullshit.

    protestant kings emphasize satan

    and

    protestants work long hours because they don’t work as smart as southern euros

    what i am saying is

    northern europeans work stupid long hours because they are stupid

    • Replies: @Anon
  294. @Iris

    “He had a history of substance abuse and was pictured with self-harm scars over his arms”

    “In times of peace the warlike man makes war on himself”

    F. Neitzsche

  295. @Levtraro

    There are no “positive results in Barcelona March 2019”, you are lying or misread the article. There is a positive result for ONE DAY: March 19, 2019. Answer this question: why is there a one day positive result in 2019, and 364 days of negative results for 2019, then daily positive results beginning in early January 2020 through March 2020 with the lowest count of genome on the first day of positives and steadily increasing to the last day of positives in late March 2020? Do you see a pattern?

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Levtraro
  296. Iris says:
    @Bombercommand

    It is reported that traces of SARS-CoV-2 had been foun in sewage all over the place, and that this may predate the epidemic breakout in Wuhan:

    Coronavirus may have laid dormant across the world and emerged when environmental conditions were right for it to thrive – rather than starting in China, an Oxford University expert believes.

    Dr Tom Jefferson, senior associate tutor at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM), at Oxford, and visiting professor at Newcastle University, argues that there is growing evidence that the virus was elsewhere before it emerged in Asia.

    Last week, Spanish virologists announced they had found traces of the disease in samples of waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the coronavirus disease was seen in China.
    Italian scientists have also found evidence of coronavirus in sewage samples in Milan and Turin, in mid-December, many weeks before the first case was detected, while experts have found traces in Brazil in November.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/05/covid-19-may-not-have-originated-china-elsewhere-emerged-asia/

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  297. @Iris

    It appears Levtraro doesnt to want to answer the question I asked in my reply. Why don’t you give it a shot Iris?

    • Replies: @Iris
  298. Levtraro says:
    @Bombercommand

    Answer this: Who am I to believe, scientific researchers reporting results and standing by them by sending their findings to peer review to get published, or some random guy who is too thick to understand the simple logic that a single positive results refutes a theory that does not accomodate that result?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  299. Iris says:
    @Bombercommand

    Well, as always with maths and statistics, what matters most is to be very clear about the question you were trying to answer.

    If the question was to prove that there was a steady increase of SARS-Cov2 virus in sewage water, as a consequence and in correlation with the expansion of the pandemic, for instance because you were trying to prove that the virus is also transported in faecal matter in a proportional ratio to patients number, than, provided there was no error in its genetic sequencing, the March 2019 would be considered an outlier. It would be a real piece of data, which neither fits the general trend (absence of virus over time), nor disproves your hypothesis (absence of virus is due to the fact the epidemic hasn’t broken out yet).

    But if the question was to find out when the epidemic really started, or where Spain’s Patient Zero might have been, than the outlier becomes the single most important piece of data. One must of course ascertain there is no error in virus identification; it is likely that the researchers have kept sewage water samples from March 2019 and tested retrospectively (the virus hadn’t been identified/sequenced yet at the time). So they just need to do more tests on the water, and prove the presence of SARS-CoV2 with an acceptable confidence interval, to state that the disease already existed in Spain in March 2019.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  300. Alfred says:
    @Bombercommand

    Those are MANNEQUINS, not human beings in your posted photo. It is so obvious it is ridiculous

    Why is it so difficult for you to believe what went on during the colonial era in Africa? Whether the photo is genuine of not is immaterial. The fact of the matter is that millions of Algerians were killed during the French occupation. The number of those killed by this atomic weapon is 0.005% of those killed in total.

    There is another well-known atrocity that the Belgians committed in the Congo. The Congo was the private property of the king of Belgium at that time. They cut off the hands of those who did not work hard enough. Is that also an invention?

    Father stares at the hand and foot of his five-year-old, severed as a punishment for failing to make the daily rubber quota, Belgian Congo, 1904

    • Agree: Iris
  301. @Levtraro

    You cannot answer the question by indulging in the Ad Hominem Fallacy. Iris did considerably better than you. Iris understands that a new sample for March 19, 2019 needs to be tested, along with reexamination of the old sample for contamination, as well as technical and administrative errors. The March 19, 2019 positive, a single day positive followed by over nine months of negatives, cannot be taken at face value.

  302. @Iris

    The study had access to frozen blocks of untreated sewage, taken daily and held by the treatment plant. A new sample from the March 19, 2019 block must be tested, and that block carefully examined for possible surface contamination. It is unacceptable to keep referring to “March 2019”, as a positive was obtained for only one day: March 19, 2019.

  303. @Bombercommand

    The March 19, 2019 positive, a single day positive followed by over nine months of negatives, cannot be taken at face value.

    Agree. One date showing a positive result with long periods of no positive results before and after makes no sense. Except that the sample may be the result from one or several infected individuals who spent one day at the location and urinated and defecated while passing through and didn’t infect anybody else before flying off to wherever. Let us know if this outlier gets through the referees and into the final publication, if it is accepted without elimination of the outlier. I haven’t been following these sewage studies but it would be interesting to know if the journals drop their usual standards and allow this to get through. I don’t even know if such a result deserves to be called an “outlier” as it is clearly an error and casts doubts on the whole study.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  304. Johan says:
    @Miro23

    ZioBerg, ZioValley, ZioMedia, ZioBanking, ZioTech etc, right before our eyes, which our own establishments keep wide shut.

  305. @Commentator Mike

    See comment #14 by Levtraro, there is a link to the article on the Barcelona sewage study.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  306. Johan says:
    @Petermx

    “I think part of the problem is the EU did not abide by the plan as it was stated and didn’t follow its own regulations regarding faltering economies.”

    The EU had to expand as quickly as possible, no matter the situation in the countries who get on board because the expansion is ideological. It is about ideological control and about power. That it costs money doesn’t matter, it’s financed with tax money and the money of corporations who smell money. That it may lead to instability is the risk you take in building empire. If these countries would be left out, the risk would be in them forming their own cooperative block, and some of them directing themselves towards Russia. This is a risk for the ideological liberal church and Western vulture capitalism. The Ukraine, they took it by force, Russia, they are constantly trying to demonize it. Mammoth is hungry for power.

    • Agree: Alfred
  307. Johan says:
    @Petermx

    In addition, failing EU partners like Bulgaria are still an asset. For one, you throw EU tax payer money at them (which isn’t from your own pockets), and you can extract competence from it. So in Bulgaria it is estimated that two out of three competent educated people, or in general people with prospects migrate to richer Northern EU countries. The country is running empty with competence and prospect, those who can make a difference and who could be a factor of economic growth leave the country, which remains corrupt and stagnant. If the country becomes a too serious burden, then a good crisis always makes it possibles to change the rules, to install a Western technocracy for instance. If the country would have turned to Russia, it would have been a threat. If you need to dump the country, it will be left emptied and highly corrupt.

  308. @Bombercommand

    Thanks. That links to a Spanish article and I don’t speak it but I could get the gist of their study. The links from there led to a preprint in English but it seemed to be just a brief statement and not a full preprint. Anyway the comments by others were enlightening:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.13.20129627v1#disqus_thread

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  309. @Iris

    In other words, Germany, by its careful and intelligent approach to a normalised relationship and increased integration with Russia and China, is taking back its natural position as centre of gravity of Eurasia, a position that was artificially taken from her by two engineered world wars.

    Precisely. More specifically, the two artificially engineered world wars were designed to destroy Britain’s two biggest competitors: Russia and Germany. Pitting them against each other to fight bloody wars.

    WW1 — Tsar Nicholas II had been encouraged to go to war with Germany in 1914 on the promise by London that, with victory, Russia would finally get her Holy Grail of Constantinople and the Straits – a dream of the Tsars for centuries. (The carving of the Middle East under the secretive agreement known as “Sykes-Picot” was originally known as the “Sykes-Picot-Sazonov” agreement.) But; it was an empty promise that Britain had no intention of keeping. The ruling class of London were going to carve up the Middle East for themselves (oil) , and Palestine for Zionist purposes. Russia would not be a welcome part of the equation. Had Russia still be in the war by late 1918 she would rightfully have demanded her great prize. With the US coming in in 1917, it was strategically okay to get Russia out. One always has to remember that the Allies could have ended the war with a victory at any point from 1915 onwards simply by closing down all supplies of oil, metals for armaments and munitions, food etc to Germany. Despite mainstream history accounts, an Allied victory was never in doubt. Kaiser Wilhelm made repeated requests for an end to war, and on each occasion was totally spurned. Some 15 million men died needlessly between the Spring of 1915 and November 1918, but massive profits were accrued by the very few. [1]

    WW2 — Bismarck had managed to unite Germany where Jews and non-Jews were assimilating. It was making Germany stronger than ever and the to-be center of banking and, as you stated, the center of gravity of Eurasia. The rise of Hitler and Nazism in Germany, an Anglo-Saxon-British machination ([2], [3]), took care of that unification. The war Germany and Russia fought, and the Allied bombing of Germany, took care of its strength. Not so coincidentally, the City of London became the (worldwide) center of banking after WW2.

    _____

    [1] I recommend Docherty and MacGregor’s “Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War”, “Prolonging The Agony”, and/or their blog entries:

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com

    [2] Anglo-Saxon Roots of German Nazism
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/07/05/anglo-saxon-roots-of-german-nazism/

    [3]

    Shattering scene: Chamberlain on a couch. Broken, mumbling, tears in his eyes. He holds my hand and won’t let me go. His big eyes burn like fire. Greetings to you, spiritual father. Trailblazer, pioneer! I am deeply upset. Off we go. He mumbles, wants to speak, he can’t—and then weeps like a child! Long, long handshake! Farewell! You stand by us when we are near despair. Outside the rain patters! I want to cry out, I want to weep.

    From: Goebbels, Joseph, Das Tagebuch von Joseph Goebbels, 1925-1926, Stuttgart, Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt, 1960, 141 p., in the English translation: The Early Goebbels Diaries, 1925-1926, London, Weidenfeld and Nicholson, 1962, 156 p., p. 77.

    Via: https://journals.openedition.org/miranda/6680

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: Iris
  310. @Commentator Mike

    My phone auto translates, my bad, I didn’t notice. A translation app is really useful for the web. My app has clumbsy translations, especially from French, but good enough for fact based articles.

  311. Racial fascism is now the only answer, everywhere. And that will mean transcontinental, intra-white civil war in most places. Pro-white whites everywhere must see ourselves as members of the same nation (this has been happening more rapidly now in the 21st century: I was advocating this here and there in the 1980s). And we must see that anti-white whites are not OUR people; they are in league with our enemies. We must steel ourselves for the coming war, which will be a vernichtungskrieg.

    Nothing like this has ever been seen in world history. But there is often something new under the sun.

  312. Anon[938] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fray Juan Crespi

    Are you perchance a troll? Are you trying to be a bad representative for:
    a) Spaniards?
    b) Catholics?
    c) religious men in general?
    d) EMJ readers?

    So much hostility, so few arguments. Dude.

  313. Levtraro says:
    @Bombercommand

    I would agree with you instead of thinking you are thick IF the authors had not submitted their work to peer review for publishing. They know their sampling procedures will be examined, even possibly replicated. As a reviewer I would ask for samples to be examined by a 3rd-party lab.

    As for the many negative samples before and after the positive sample on March 2019, this is exactly what would be expected for a virus that recently jumped to humans and spread through the world on a few travellers: episodic appearances and quick disappearance in many places. Check the replies to comments in medrxiv repository for the Barcelona preprint.

    Also note that other reports of the presence of the virus before Wuhan exist. There is one from December 2019 from Turin, Italy, one from November 2019, Florianopolis, Brazil,

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20140731v1

    and one from November 2019, Alsace, France (this one is from examinations of chest scans).

    • Replies: @glib
  314. glib says:
    @Levtraro

    The Fall 2019 global presence of the virus is, I think, beyond doubt. There are declarations also of an italian virologist. A colleague who went to Quark Matter in Wuhan in November came back to California with pneumonia. The March lockdown for a very contagious virus circulating already in November had to be ineffective, incompetent, and/or criminal in nature.

  315. @Anonymous

    That’s all you have simpleton? Why don’t you figure out where the hell “home” IS! Colonial chameleon.

  316. hfel says:
    @Vingo

    Then why are all these little angels trying to leave their primeval idyll of communal village life and spiritual wellness for the crass and materialistic West? Why, in Europe, do all the refugees opt for the Nordics and Germany with their generous welfare cheques and high wages, rather than their poorer but more traditionalistic neighbours in the south like Spain? Why do so many of these innocent beings end up disproportionately in European prisons, just like blacks in America?

  317. hfel says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    I think in the US the issue is more that the GOP is still (with the exception of Trump) a party spouting mostly legacy WASP morality — individual responsibility, small government, etc. that has always been particular to NW Euros and less to the more collectivist South and East. But there is collectivist-flavored conservatism as well, as in Hungary, where clever media controls keep the worst of Western poz away, at least for now, and promote national pride. You also see it in China with its Great Firewall, and Russia, which seems to be aiming to reboot the Tsardom with Putin as the new Tsar; an issue that has many in the Baltics on edge which happens to be where I’m from myself.

    On the other hand, you only have to look at what the young believe and the picture is as gay as a Starbucks in the middle of Hollywood. If societies must die like all living organisms, then who knows, maybe it is for the best for it to happen as quickly as possible in the long run. As the ancient Hindus observed, and paraphrased by Oppenheimer (who like much of the physicists of his era took an interest in Eastern thinking in the 50s): «It is perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell. The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so.»

    • Thanks: Oliver Elkington
  318. Svigor says:

    European leaders may have strong incentives to resort again to such plans in order to find the concluding fudge during their interminable summit negotiations.

    Over 300 comments, and I’m the first dude to wonder aloud WTF that means? Everyone else knows what “the concluding fudge” is?

    C’mon, now.

  319. Svigor says:
    @João Antunes

    “Brutal segregation”

    Hmm.

    “Brutal orgasm”
    “Brutal income”
    “Brutal segregation”

    Nope, sorry, none of these things really makes sense to me…

  320. Svigor says:
    @Levtraro

    It’ll fail because the nation is the natural dividing line of (white) mankind and ceding sovereignty (e.g., currency, central banks) to something further is dumb.

    Iris:

    Catholicism/Islam hold high collective values and morals that have much less importance in Anglo-Saxon Protestantism/Judaism, which have produced the current, ultimate version of dog-eat-dog capitalism: everything is permitted as long as money can be made out of it.

    Which is why Israel is open-borders and multicultural and totally submerging its ethnic identity in the acid of dog-eat-dog capitalism…

    Oh, wait…

  321. Neither will the former USA recover.

  322. @Anonymous

    Got anything to back up your assertions?

  323. Pour M. Durocher : Une amie française m’a raconté tout à l’heure d’avoir écouté une interview avec Michel Onfray (sur ThinkerView). Ce type a beaucoup de présence médiatique, comme vous savez, et il dit que l’Europe est dans un état de décadence … et voilà tout. Mon amie est d’accord. Rien à faire. Tout est foutu. Je ne peux me tenir calme en face de cette lâcheté. J’aimerais suggérer que vous écoutiez Onfray et trouver la faille dans son élégante défense de la résignation. Je ne peux pas ; j’en suis trop révolté. Merci.

  324. @refl

    What is not correct, though, is to blame it on the refugees from 2015 following. These people just adopted the local habits of their cultural brethren, who have been living here for decades.

    That may be true, but it doesn’t change my fundamental point, in fact it reinforces it. North Africans, Middle Easterners, etc. living there for decades had not acculturated to their new country, but still managed to keep their rapey ways, so they have no business living in Germany. The Rotherham grooming gangs were all Pakis, yet some had been in the country for decades and some were at least second generation.

    I’ve seen the media refer to these people as a “British man”, “French man”, etc. as though the flag on their passport determines what they are. In America we have a simple rule for determining the perpetrator of a crime: if the media won’t describe him, he’s black. I’ve yet to be wrong following that rule.

    Black people have had several centuries to adapt to white culture, yet most have not done it. So by and large, importing more Africans makes your country more African, more Arabs more Arabian, more Chinese more like China. And the media will lie about it using every tool at their disposal.

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